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Like a sculpted figure in bronze, Tana receives and refracts the light around her, creating exquisite angles consumed by the camera.
SHE IS in many ways a mystery, sylph-like, with full, round, strutting breasts and a slender but well-toned body. It is the mystery that makes her so popular, both among her friends in Russia, but also on Hegre-Art: who is this girl? Tell us more.
Tana enjoyed the idea of nude modeling, but was insistent that the session remained "respectable" and said she would never have considered posing for anyone other than Petter Hegre, Why? Just in case she meets a rich man one day and he is against the idea of her showing her all to the world. So hush, hush: we are privy to Tana's guilty little secret.
You will find her on the site in a session with Luba and a group session with Galina and Sveba, both Russian girls.
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Russian Army These girls are gorgeous together. Especially Tana, who I see is scarcely available on your site. That's too bad...I would love to see a LOT more of Tana.
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wow tana not a whole of gals can compete with the amazing Luba, but you pulled it off. Top Work, Tana.
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These girls have great little cookies.
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How strange that this gallery has received no comments to date. For me it is one of the most significant and typical of Petter's work. In any case it was instrumental in drawing me to this site. The simple beauty of the models is breathtaking. The frank and uncomplicated way in which they are portrayed (without the usual tedious trappings of nude "art" photography: veils, shadows, etc... ) is really refreshing.
|btrhea United States
TANA! Tana, the model on the far right, has perhaps the most perfect body I have ever seen! What amazing curves. Her breasts are physically perfect, as is her tiny waist. I only wish there was more of her to see on this site. Bring back Tana!!
|Donald Mann United States
Petter, this is one of the best photo sessions I have ever seen. Three beautiful women - all very different-looking but all equally deilghtful in different ways. An classic!
|Mark United States
Dropping bathrobes No better sight than when those robes hit the floor! That is when you get a true appreciation of these lovely ladies' beauty. I love the three lady set as you can really get a great perspective on what unique qualities that each beautiful lady brings to the shot. Each is beautiful in their own way and it is wonderful to be able to bring that beauty together to create such lovely nudes. Terrific photo set.
|JACK Canada
GALINA-SVEBA-TANIA Have I died and gone to heaven? This set is one of your best Petter. The girls are doing nothing, but theres magic in these photos.The girls are beautiful, especially GALINA! So much for blondes. (Could I possibly get this girls address-you know, maybe we could become pen pals!
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Post subject: Point-of-Turn and Point-of-Slip Using One Marker
Point-of-Turn / Point-of-Slip One Marker Method
Summary: This is a way to use only one counter to show both Point-Of-Turn and Point-Of-Slip. Use only the POT counter. The number of hexes between the POT counter and the ship counts towards the turn mode just as in the normal procedure. The slip mode can be determined by looking to see if the POT counter is in the same hex row as the ship. If the POT counter is in the same hex row, the slip mode has been fulfilled and the ship can slip. If the POT counter is not in the same hex row, the slip mode has not been fulfilled and the ship cannot slip.
Procedure: When a ship makes a sideslip leave its Point-Of-Turn counter where it is. This leaves the POT counter in a different hex row to the ship. When the POT counter is in a different hex row than its ship the ship needs to move forward to fulfill its slip mode.
When the ship moves forward move the POT counter obliquely back and into the same hex row as its ship. A ship can sideslip if it is in the same hex row as its POT counter. The number of hexes between a ship and its POT counter will be the number of hexes moved that count toward fulfilling the turn mode for that ship.
Deceleration: When decelerating move the POT counter directly backwards one hex but keep it in the same hex row as the ship. A deceleration counts as one hex toward the turn mode, but has no influence on the slip mode.
Sticky Situation: If a ship is Stopped or if it decelerates immediately after making a turn its next move must be forward (because the turn mode and the slip mode are both zero). The first move made in this situation must be forward because slip mode cannot be fulfilled with decelerations. Place the POT counter upside-down under the ship counter. Having the POT counter in the same hex as the ship counter indicates the ship has not fulfilled any movement toward its turn mode. Placing the POT counter upside-down indicates the ship has not fulfilled its slip mode.
Alternate Method: With the sticky situation in mind one might wonder, Why not simply flip the POT counter upside-down to indicate a slip mode has not been fulfilled instead of moving it obliquely back? This can be done instead of moving the POT counter and works just as well. Some players may find that they prefer flipping the POT counter instead of moving it obliquely back.
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One way I've done Turn counters is to use a 6 sided die.
Each ship card has a die on it. Every time you move or decelerate, increase the die by 1. The "six" means the turn mode has been reset to 0 (stopped, decel, HET, etc). For example...
Ship begins with a reset turn mode (6)
Move (1)
Decel (2)
Move (3)
Turn (1)
Move (2)
5 was always the max. Never played with a ship that required 6 hexes, but not sure what the battleships require.
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for fun maneuverability
try a vulture speed 24 and evasive
turn mode 7 i believe
once had to emergency decel to avoid map edge
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WOW! You're right, and I've even seen it, but since I've been using turn counters for awhile I hadn't paid attention to a dice not being enough anymore.
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I suppose available space was one of the reasons for not including it, but I've always wondered about putting a turn mode track and a slip mode track (more like a checkbox) on the ship cards. Another reason for not doing it would be that anyone can look at the map and see the turn and slip markers at any time without bothering anybody else.
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:50 pm
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I have noticed that the angle of the engines on the Klingon ships varies. Some are straight, some flare out, some flare in. I have noticed this on the ADB painting guides for the mini's as well as in pictures I have found on the net.
I would say that the ADB painting guides for the mini's would indicate the proper "flare or no-flare" of the engines.
But I was wondering if there was any rational basis that set the engine "flare" or was it just artist conception at the time.
Am I correct that the only Klingon ship in the original series was the D-7 with the engines flared inward (just like the ADB painting guide)? So the engines on the other types of Klingon ships must have been designer's choice.
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Only SVC could give the definitive answer.
The D-7 in the game was based in-part on the Michael McMaster blueprints (which, in-turn were of course based on the ship seen in TOS) and these did indeed have the engines canted inward slightly.
After that, it really boiled down to the sculptor working on the mini master, or the artist doing the drawing.
I do my art and minis with the engines canted in on all cruisers and bigger ships. I figure there must have been some engineering reason for it, so it would probably be consistent on all ships using those types of engines.
The frigates, I don't. I just leave the engines nearly parallel to the line of the "wings" (they do "droop" very slightly). One guy in my gaming group bends his down ("So it will look more like a Bird of Prey"), but I don't like that look - too skinny and it looks out of proportion, especially when viewed next to a D-7.
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My opinion is that although it is originally artistic impression, it has been rationalised by Trek-style pseudo-science.
In short, the ship's hull 'channels', forms if you will, the warp field into a certain shape.
Because of this, the shape of a ship - any ship, Fed, Klink, whatever - is influenced by the way in which the designer wants to 'channel' the warp field. In this way, the warp field dictates the shape of the ship, and is thenceforth dictated
the shape of the ship. I know that sounds a bit chicken-and-egg, but it's not if you think about it.
The angle of the warp nacelles is therefore just a part of the overall ship hull design and forms part of the designer's warp field shaping method - whatever that is!
Once the ship's shape is set, the warp field is more or less constrained by the hull. I like to extend that into thinking that this is one of the reasons why a High-Energy Turn damages the ship; the warp field is essentially a part of the hull, and when you 'twist' the field violently when performing a HET, there is a chance that you will break more than just the captain's potted plants
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WOW Kang...that was impressive!
Thanks - although I can't actually find the main reference to where I got all that from, at least some of it is in the ST-TNG Technical Manual.
It describes how the Ent-D's hull shape is designed to channel the warp field, much as I have described above.
Another thing I remember reading about the Klingon D6/7 hull shape was that it was also designed to look like some sort of predatory fish on the Klingon homeworld.
Quite where I saw that, I don't know. But at least the fish's shape was still conducive to the D6/7's warp field shaping, I guess....
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Being a warrior myself, my fellow tank is also a paladin and I've been thinking about this. He recently consulted me about the EH value of BV. One of the questions he asked me was whether 80BV or 18sta was more valuable EH-wise as a shield enchant.
I've rejected this idea of BV as an EH stat in WotLK since the change of Shield Block, but the concept might still be valid for a Paladin. I don't know what to think, it's a bit of a trip to the past for me. I used to stack BV for both threat and EH in tBC because nearly all damage was physical and I blocked almost every hit, especially with the expertise gear after the Sunwell patch. Today, I see it as tps stat mostly and a bit of bonus damage reduction. Stacking it for AoE tanking only, although that's usually the paladin's job, but you know, there's always the occasional raid he can't join and we have an undergeared tank alt or I for instance solotank an Ulduar hard mode raid up to Hodir, Freya, Mimiron.
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I feel that for Paladins, BV is in line with armor, a physical migitation stat that can always be relied on, hence contributing to EH, while for Warriors, BV is more in line with avoidance, reducing over-all average damage, but it cannot be relied on, although it improves the value of the shield block mini-cooldown.
Talking about Paladin EH, his better scaling with stamina (14% vs 6%) is really starting to show at these new gear levels. Both full buffed, he's a good 3k above me to beyond the 50k mark. I can regem a bit more, but still. However, he seems to notice that I'm taking less damage than he does over the course of a fight. That may be true, but I'm more concerned with my bull's butt when he gets the ice block triple hit at H-Anub though; I can't pop last stand while I'm in the ice block. Any advice for surviving phase3 as a warrior?
note: my armory is currently not showing my full progression set; swap in the ToC10 avoidance waist, armor weapon, armor ring and the H-ToC10 expertise neck.


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Hi Splug, what is the mod that the warrior is using to show debuff icons and a timer in P3? It looks something like power auras, but the texture highlighting seems different.
I think where we might gave been failing then is killing ice blocks to early, as we just got rid of them as soon as the others lost there buffets, guess well have to leave them up longer thanks alot for ure help
Hi Splug, what is the mod that the warrior is using to show debuff icons and a timer in P3? It looks something like power auras, but the texture highlighting seems different.
In our 10 man the next day, we almost wiped because a block died as soon as I got behind it, and as I was just about behind the next one I got pulled. Both tanks had over a 10 stack at this point. Especially in 10 mans the tanks really need to be the ones calling out when to break the phase 3 blocks but even in 25 man with three tanks this happened a few times. LISTEN TO THE TANKS in phase 3.
Exactly how long do you have to break the blocked people out before they get asphyxiation and start to die?
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Hey was wondering if someone could give me a hand with some details about this encounter. So after easily clearing the rest of ICC last night, Sindragosa decided that is was her job to stop us from proceeding any further toward the Lich king as she so kindly informed us of when we pulled; However unlike other bosses threats she proceeded to destroy us. After hours wiping to her I am wondering if she isn't bugged for us so I would like to ask anyone else who has had a chance to fight this boss about some things, First off in Phase 3 should she still be casting Unchained Magic every 30 secs? If yes how are we supposed to not have healers build huge stacks of the debuff and die upon stopping casting? and secondly is it normal for two people to have the Unchained Magic like 99% of the time because our holy paladin and myself had Unchained magic every-time it was cast for every attempt we made? that doesn't just seem to be RNG to me either seen as how we used 18 attempts on her last night and could not push her past 20%. Thank you for your time and any insight you might be able to give.
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Were you two pretty much the only casters?
Darksend's video talks about paladins being able to LoS the buffet almost 100% by beaconing the tank. Paladins, as far as I know, need to have LoS with the beaconed target as well in order for their heals to get copied (it is as if the paladin almost simultaneously casts two spells).
Did this work for you because you found a way to position in order to LoS the aoe from the boss yet not LoS the tank? Is it the case that the buffet originates from the middle of the boss' hitbox and you can LoS that area without LoS-ing the dragon's head (tank). If so that would be applicable to any tank healer and not just paladins.
Thanks for your time.
I heard that a deathknight tank could use ams in phase 3 to prevent a buffet from being applied and thus lose his stack, can anyone confirm this? If that were the case it would be a great help for us as I could dps.
I heard they hotfixed that.
no there were 5 casters in total. 3 healers (Resto shammy, Holy Priest, and Holy Paladin) and two ranged dps (A Hunter and Myself; However i am not sure that Hunters can get the buff)
"Anti Magic Shell no longer resets the Mystic Buffet stacks in the Sindragosa encounter."
How does Sindragosa choose people for unchained magic? Is it only people at range? Is it people with mana and if so what is to prevent a ret pally or enh shammy or hunter from getting it?
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/u...ses&boss=36853 ), no hunters or melee hybrids were selected over 255 casts of the spell. Perhaps it's based on total mana, requiring you to have over ~20k mana to be a legal target? That'd rule out rets/enh/hunters. I am not certain, but that's speculation.
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Anyone tried to have everyone in melee range to test if unchained magic only targets at range?
From the evidence provided by someone in the other thread where their enh shammy only got it when he started casting heals to wipe his physical based stacks it seems like it targets people while they are in a cast time, as hunters and enh shammys and ret pallys use spells but with maelstrom for the enh shammy they are all instant. This seems like a highly exploitable loophole once known. Also using that info you could essentially choose who you want it on whenever it's about to run out on it's current target given that from what I hear it's always on one person in the 10 man.
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Thanks for those guide, very helpful.
I have a question regarding P3. In our attmept tonight it happenned twice than on the first tank transition, the second tank would taunt off me and I bail instantly, but right as he taunt she start channeling a breath, with the slow debuff she succeeded in catching my still in the cone of her breath, any suggestion on how to avoid that ? Freedom in advance ? I thought about intervening someone but melee were too close and range were too far
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Regarding Splug's video, I notice Stingray using a mod to help position players afflicted with Frost Beacons; I imagine this will make the fight alot simpler and avoid 2 people going to the same designated FB spot. Can anyone tell me what mod this is? Is it an option with DBM?


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For those guilds that have the gear this encounter can "cheated" by only sending a tank and two healers up top. This gives all your dps time to ensure the adds are killed properly. When she hops down it just becomes one long burn phase.
Originally Posted by Aliena
For those guilds that have the gear this encounter can "cheated" by only sending a tank and two healers up top. This gives all your dps time to ensure the adds are killed properly. When she hops down it just becomes one long burn phase.
My guild worked on this boss a bit last night and our best attempt got the boss down to 12%. We kept all dps on the ground level to ensure the adds died in an orderly fashion, but we found that we just didn't have the DPS to burn the boss from 99.5% starting in phase 2. I suggest guilds send up 3 melee to the top (preferably rogues, enhance shamans, and fury warriors) so that you can burn her down enough in phase 1 to help out in phase 2. We also found that lusting at the beginning of phase 2 ensures better coverage overall since our healers went OOM by about 25% when we were initially burning lust at about 35%.
To give a general idea of what my guild's gear level is we are averaging about 361-362 right now. We're a guild that was 5/13 in 25 man at launch of the patch.
For 10m guilds:
Our guild found this fight ridiculously easy. Our biggest problem was the stupid tank (me) kept falling down the hole in the middle of the web. Most of us had 361-363 ilvl, and the guild had done 5/13 in 10m. But we also had two backups, one healer and one DPS.
We sent up a bear tank and enh shaman with a disc priest atonement healing. Got the boss to 78% by the time the burn phase started. She came down and ate one spiderling, but we still got the burn. All in all, it was the shortest learning curve for us. That was, at least, until we came on here and read the Shannox guide and all the comments.
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(10 Man) Tip for All us Warlocks for this fight!
"Theres a great advantage of being a Warlock during this fight (that is.. if you're fighting ontop of the web) after you've gotten yourself up the first time, you can then put a teleporter down and then easily just teleport yourself back up when its time "
(I posted this earlier on the Video itself! but thought it might help others later if it was posted here aswell, as for i got a decent numbers of positive response! n_n! Goodluck!)
We killedher yesterday. We moved 2 healers, 5 melee DPS and 1 tank up the web (5man) andhad little difficulties with this fight.
The raidshould aim to get Beth'Tilac to phase 2 with about 70% HP. Damage will quicklyramp up in phase 2 which makes healing extremely hard at the end.
Theassignments to 3 different corners worked wonders. We had raidmarks up in everycorner and assigned 3 (Ranged DPS) to all corners. Make sure to havestuns/slows ready in every corner. There is a good guide with screenshotsavailable at http://www.25man.com/firelands/bethtilac. Worth a shot to check it out. It get frequently updated.
We had issues with the 10man version of this yesterday, as the spinner's random damage kept overwhelming us when leaving them alive - slowly, more and more spawned.
On the flipside when we tried to taunt them down and kill them, the mix of the tank having to move around and the DPS lost that way meant the downstairs team ran into issues with DPS.
Is this just a pure DPS problem?
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The healing... the horrible, horrible healing... But fun!!! Loved this encounter! We three shotted it (we don't count our first attempt though, somehow the tank up top took fall damage when coming back down and died), and it feels just right for a normal mode encounter. We sent up one melee DPS, one healer, and a tank. I would suggest NOT sending up a holy paladin as the only healer -- there's AoE damage up there and it's a bit much to cover. While it is possible, it's much easier to do with a class with more AoE healing capabilities.
Ok, from all the comments I'm reading this encounter should be one of the easier encounters. My guild was only 11/12 when the patch hit because we formed later so our average item level of raiders that night was around 359. Is this too low for this encounter?
The problem we kept running into was we would kill a spinner, and another would spawn right in its place. We killed possibly 8 of them and they just kept spawning. Is this correct or no? About 30 seconds after our "upstairs" team got up there the drone spawned. So we were dealing with the spinners, a drone, and the spiderlings all over the place.
I also noticed that ONLY a form of taunt (Hand of Reckoning/Deathgrip) would bring the spinners down. We had some DPS on spinners that would DPS them and they would just sit there on their string. After they died, no vehicle dropped.
Does this sound bugged or are we just doing it wrong?
Thank you for the replies in advance
The no vehicle drop thing makes sense, but the spinners to almost no melee damage, so if each of your tanks taunt one and then like a plate DPS taunts the other, those should be sufficient for your 3 people to go up top (a tank, a healer, and 1 DPS, probably the plate DPS).
We then had 4 DPS on the ground and we divided up the priorities. We had 1 ranged on spinners full time, his job was to make sure they were dying as they spawned, and only if there weren't any to get the drones. The other 3 DPS were assigned to spiderling duty then drones. If spinners were out of control and spiderlings were under control, then I would float and help with spinners. Doing a lot of damage to beth'talic herself in this phase isn't a huge deal, and you guys probably have more than enough gear for it.
The tricky party is going to be making sure to kill the spiderlings that spawn right as beth drops for phase 2 before they get to her. Killing these befor finishing up any other spinners or drones should be your DPS's top priority. If beth is ~80% when phase 2 starts, you should be fine. My guild is better geared than yours, but we started at 97% (spiderlings hit beth) and still killed it the first time we saw phase 2 with no deaths. If you guys kill the spiderlings before they get to beth so she doesn't heal, you should have no problew getting her dead at your gear leve. Just be sure to start using whatever raid cooldowns you have at about 30%, so aura mastery, priest bubbles, AMZ, tranquility, etc.
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Alright, thank you for the information, I believe one of our problems was definitely add control. Unfortunately we were also sending up 2 DPS as opposed to 1. I realize now this was a big problem and one of the reasons we were having so much trouble with the adds.
We will give her another run for her money. Thank you again for the information Aggathon.
I'm not sure if I missed it somewhere along the way, my 10man group will be heading into FL in a few hours for the first time, and I was wondering, do all the spinners have to be killed? Or just the ones you taunt down to get the strings?
The spinners will come down off of their webs when they're taunted, and they switch from just spamming the acid bolt thingy to melee swings combined with acid bolts. Either way, they don't hit hard and can be tanked by anyone in the raid. The trick is to make sure enough of them die while still keeping up with the Drone damage.
also, I posted earlier that this fight was just too easy. Upon doing the fight again with two other guilds, I realize that we might have just gotten lucky with who was assigned to who for DPS. If you are reading these posts and thinking about your group taking on the fight, put some good thought into who would be best in which role, be it ranged AoE'ing, or focus firing spinners, etc.
In one group I went with, we decided that one DPS was to go upstairs on the first of the three mini-phases and blow all cooldowns, because for the 2nd and 3rd he just stayed down and helped DPS spinners.
I guess it depends on how strong your DPS are.
Worse than you.
We're sort of undergeared, like 357-59, and we seem to be getting up to 30 frenzies in 10man. And sometimes our tanks will just die. Sometimes it's in the beginning of the phase and our tanks would just die.
Does it sound like we might be undergeared for this? We are executing everything just fine. DPS ranges from 15k-18k.
I have been noticing that issue to on the 10 man area. Those that are in 10 man normal gear simply aren't able to generate sufficient DPS to actually kill the boss. All things aside, top end players playing absolutely perfect could easily kill the boss in 359 gear, the problem is those people have been farming heroics for months and aren't in 359s.
Right now the DPS quota for this encounter seems a bit too steep for people who would be entering a normal mode encounter after having cleared normal mode tier 11. You have no room for mistake. You can't let the boss heal at all. You have to get them down a fair amount, like 30%, before the final phase.
I would actually not be surprised to see this encounter get a nerf in 10 man normal very soon. I think it's a little overtuned for those that would only have normal mode gear but not everyone can do over 20k single target DPS in just 359s. I'm not one to point out issues in content difficulty lightly but I believe this one is currently overtuned for 10 man normal based on what 10 man normal raiders would have coming out of tier 11 normal modes.
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We were able to get Beth down to like 78 at best before phase 2.
After fiddling around with this last night in one of our 10man groups, we decided that our main problem was the add control during phase 1. So we changed our tactics.
We had 1dps + tank + healer go up top until the first smoldering devastation and then only the tank + healer for the remainder of phase 1. Everyone else stayed down at the bottom killing adds.
She dropped down in phase 2 at just under 90% health, no adds up to heal her and we just burned her down. It was a close finish, but we did it. This approach seemed a lot simpler than trying to split our dps in 10 man, because the adds were really proving problematic. Admitedly the group slightly overgeared the encounter, with everyone in at least 359 across the board and a few 365, 372 and 379 pieces here and there as well, so a lower geared group might struggle with the P2 burn phase from 90%.
We tried this on 25 man last night, and I wasn't happy with our dps split. We had 2 tanks of course, and 7 healers, that leaves 16 dps. What are suggestions for splitting the dps? Our raid is mainly 359 ilvl and we were carrying a couple of low dps.
And a specific question for spinners, we had a single range dps focus on them, but do they do less overall damage if they're all brought down to the ground asap instead of range dps taking them out while hanging?
Ranged DPS | Spiderlings -> Spinners -> Drone
Ranged DPS | Spiderlings -> Spinners -> Drone
Melee DPS | Spinners -> Drone -> Spiderlings
Ranged DPS| Spinners -> Drone -> Spiderlings
Ranged DPS| Spinners -> Drone -> Spiderlings
Above is how I set our DPS' individual kill priority. This minimizes raid damage by prioritizing spinners, once they're dead we have three DPS (see above) switch to the drone. They were successfully burning the drone before its energy reached zero. Initially we started with drones->spinners, we found that we were able to keep up with the adds, thus we changed it to spinners->drone to save healer mana for P2 - After spinners go down raid dmg is minimal while they burn the drone.
Slowly, but surely, we began to get ahead of the adds (probably because we had 5 DPS down low, instead of 4). We had the final drone @ 50% when the final spinners dropped. Thus we sent up one of our "Spinners->Drones->Spiderlings" (melee) DPS to the top in the FINAL P1 energy depletion of Beth'tilac to knock off a solid 5-6% before we got our final devastation. Initially we sent up a DPS during the FIRST energy depletion, but we found that that ultimately put us behind on adds and we had to play "catch up" the remainder of the encounter.
We have not downed Beth yet (primarily due to raid time constraints) - our attempts with this strategy resulted in multiple sub 20% attempts. I'm confident that once we get more expience in healing P2 we'll have our kill. I hope this helps someone!
We did this encounter Sunday night. Our average gear levels are probably 360-365. After fidgeting with duties of the raid, here is what worked.
Tanks: DK, Warrior
Healers: Sham, Druid, Disc
DPS: Hunter, Mage, Warlock, Enhance, Boomkin
I had the Hunter killing spiderlings, the mage killing drones, and the boomkin killing spinners, and if there were no spinners, floating around helping wherever. The druid and disc priest stayed down below to heal them. Warrior tank stayed down below.
DK, enh shaman, warlock and myself (r. sham) went to the top.
I can't attest to what was going on down below, but what I do know is that a drone never came up to the top of the web, and when we descended for the 3rd smoldering devastation, there was one lonely spinner dangling on his web at about 10% health. All the other adds were dead.
The boss came down at around 68% health. We used heroism at around 30% health, and i think she had about 20-22 stacks of Frenzy at this time. When she was at around 1 million health, one tank died, but the other was quick to pick her up. She fell over a few second after that - I'm sorry - I did not think to check what her Frenzy was at.
I haven't uploaded the logs yet for this week, but I can when I get home and will link them here for anyone interested.


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