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One of the problems with amiodarone is that it can cause injury to the lungs. One study suggests that vitamin E supplements might help prevent this side effect.
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The herbs chaparral (
Larrea tridentata
L. mexicana
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Amiodarone has been reported to cause increased sensitivity to the sun, amplifying the risk of sunburn or skin rash. Because St. John's wort and dong quai may also cause this problem, taking these herbal supplements during amiodarone therapy might add to this risk.
It may be a good idea to wear a sunscreen or protective clothing during sun exposure if you take one of these herbs while using amiodarone.
Kachel DL, et al. Amiodarone-induced injury of human pulmonary artery endothelial cells: Protection by alpha-tocopherol.
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Nov 26, 2012This movie was beautiful to look at. The characters were striking and vibrant in appearance. The writing was never very clever or insightful though. I think I would have loved this movie if I was under the age of 10, but their was very little that would entertain adults as well as children. Overall it wasn't unpleasant, but I wouldn't really recommend seeing it to anyone either.
Mar 19, 2013i love love love this film. The characters,the story line, everything. Definitely a top film. Although it is aimed at children, this is totally a full age friendly film.
Pitch Black is a complex character and at some parts you almost feel sorry for him... until he is a complete dooshbag yet again.
Would definitely recommend.
Nov 21, 2012A reasonably fun holiday flick that feels at times a bit disjointed and a bit lacking in depth. Certainly we can connect with the themes, but the movie fails to draw us into the "magic".
Jul 26, 2013The Movie is so bad in parts that it is funny, HAS SOME AWESOME ACTION IN IT THOUGH AND HAS A DECENT STORY LINE, not worth paying money for just wait till its on TV or download it, Average at best and the film has one of the best quotes of all time, "If u hear the moon talking to u, Listing to it", So bad that it is good.
Dec 25, 2012Rise of the Guardians has a lovely concept about these imaginary childhood legends. It tells a fascinating new mythology about them. It sets out to be highly imaginative and thoroughly heartfelt. With these people making this film, there is no surprise that they succeeded to execute those ambitions. Though, the storytelling is a bit messy with endless action set pieces. Despite of those flaws, it's still whimsically magical and heartwarming.
The story centers a childhood guardian, Jack Frost. Among the guardians, he's the least known and believed by the children. It's pretty interesting since most of us only know very little about him, we intend to intrigue about his story. When it goes to the famous legends, it gets bigger and quicker with plenty of humor. The film is also an action movie. The action scenes are amazingly done and eye candy, but they somehow get excessive causing a bit mess to the storyline. It's charming when they go to their relationship with the children, and it's appealing when it explores to their worlds.
The characters are wonderful enough. The voice performances are great. Chris Pine's performance is charming enough to keep Jack Frost pretty endearing. Alec Baldwin brings plenty of joy to his character. Hugh Jackman uses his Australian accent to the Easter Bunny which really fits to the character. The rest are unexpectedly delightful.
The visuals are undeniably astonishing. Every scene of the film is spectacular and beautiful to look at, making the experience very magical. The 3D enhances the experience more or less. The character designs are inspired. I bet many would love the Sandman's that looks so lovable. And the music score adds sweetness to the sequences.
Rise of the Guardians is a little bit disappointing but also a bit satisfying. It has the heart in a right amount but only the half of the film. The rest is all action and having fun, but it's not a bad thing. They just could have moderated the craziness and get a bit of focus to the storyline. The film is still worth watching. It can be a classic if it has a better storytelling but if you don't care then that won't be a problem. Overall, it's filled with excitement and beautiful animation. Rise of the Guardians can be considered one of the great films of the year.… Expand
Dec 8, 2012Rise of the Guardians has really great action scenes. Visually striking, very entertaining but it's not so good in storytelling. A sort of Avengers set in school set, intriguing.
Nov 29, 2012While unlikely to win any awards its a good kids movie with a good message. The voice acting was actually pretty well done especially by Chris Pine and Jude Law. If your looking to take your kids to the movies you could do a lot worse.
Jan 15, 2013Rise of the Guardians is a movie that will take you to your childhood, not only because of the characters, but also because of the topic that treats, which is the searching of your own being. This last thing is represented by Jack Frost, who is trying to discover his purpose in life and what he has to do; all this presented as his center, that he must find out in order to help the children of the world. The others guardians already discovered their center, which are wonder of Santa Claus, hope of the Easter Bunny, dreams of Sandman and memories of the Tooth Fairy. With all this things the children can have a beautiful life and be protected from their fears, characterized by the Boogeyman. These characters are very well constructed, because every single one of them has his own personality, which includes ambitions and worries, highlighting Jack Frost, Santa and Pitch. The only failure of this film is that falls into the typical struggle between good and evil and at the end it becomes totally predictable.… Expand
Dec 14, 2012Average kid movie. My daughter asked why the movie was like all the other movies she had seen, and she's only eight. The plot is tired, though the film was beautiful artistically. Also, a bit too much action. It seems that today, kids are being fed nonstop action in films. One note, though, my kids, after watching this film were convinced that Santa Claus wasn't real. They went in believing and came out doubting. Mostly like the tattooed Russian bully posing as Santa in the film, didn't jive with their more innocent view of him. Strange. This movie was basically a pass for us.… Expand
Mar 14, 2013It wars really fun to watch and this is the holiday movies that children need. I really like this animated movie. It was visually great and if you have time to watch it, then watch it.
Nov 26, 2012Visually, the animation is outstanding. Dreamworks already proved they were among the best animators with "How to Train Your Dragon". The 3D is also excellent. Unfortunately, the story fell a little flat and predictable for me. The moral of the movie, "It's real if you only believe", has been done many times in movies, and as recently as "Polar Express" a few years ago. Polar Express was a better movie for me than this one. Still, the outstanding visuals kept my interest the entire movie and I recommend it on that basis alone.… Expand
Nov 25, 2012I expected this movie to get the same lazy story treatment that Gnomeo and Juliet had, but it turns out to be much more. Its sorta the kids version of The Avengers. It has the heart of "The Polar Express" but with action like "The Incredibles". Theres even a deeper meaning behind the movie. Its about dreaming and believing as a kid so that you can succeed as an adult as well. If you liked holiday classics such as "The Polar Express" or "Arthur", then I think you'll enjoy "Rise of the Guardians".… Expand
Nov 25, 2012For sure one of the most original, most interesting & best holiday movies I've seen. The animation is very detailed & the use of 3D effect is completely worth the extra couple bucks to see it in 3D. The story itself is rather interesting, but well written & well told. This movie may be one your kids want you to see, and while it does look kinda childish, some adults will appreciate the originality & story for sure. This movie is one of those movies that also builds up a great storyline that keeps you interested & the ending while not really that expected, does perfectly fit with the rest of the story.… Expand
Mar 19, 2013I have to start by saying that i am a big fan of Animated movies. This movie is just Hollywood trash. It has the same CGI, actions and stupid jokes as the typical Hollywood movies these days with no sense of story or screenplay. The movie is just boring. They try to make you feel amazed by throwing some graphics but it is just boring.
Dec 2, 2012Rise of the Guardians is an animated film of 2012 directed by Peter Ramsey.
When Pitch, the black man, threatens to destroy the imagination of children, guardians, Santa Claus, The Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny and Sandman come together to defeat him. The man in the moon, however, reveals that they will join a new guardian and that is Jack Frost, the spirit of the snow that as opposed to other guardians can not be seen by people.
The film has a simple plot but full of found really original, dramatic moments, fun and exciting. The thing that you notice about this movie is, above all, the characterization of the characters. No one is left in the background and you end up adoring all. Pitch is very well characterized and is a great evil, intelligent and duplicitous. The technical department is done really well and also the music.… Expand
Mar 31, 2013A Christmas movie where the Easter Bunny, Santa, Sandman, the Tooth fairy and Jack Frost form a souped-up action team who protect the children from Pitch Black (the Boogeyman). It's better than it sounds on paper with great animation and voice acting but the story is very predictable with the obligatory happy end. The target adience is kids between 7 to 15 so I guess we can forgive them
Dec 29, 2012Much more aimed at the kids then I anticipated, Rise is a gorgeous looking piece of animation but ever so dull with it. There's not enough humour for my taste and despite the set-up its played very straight. I'm sure kids will love it but it doesnt have the wider appeal of something like Shrek or Tangled.
Nov 26, 2012The movie is very good for kids and adults. The story is interesting and the graphics it's so cool.
Me and my daughter are so very happy after exit from the theatre.
Xmas is coming!!!
Nov 26, 2012I thought that this was the best animated film of the year...and I've seen ALL of the others. It had some of the most spectacularly beautiful design I've seen in ages and it also one of the few movies that really should be seen in 3D. The voices and characterizations are both fun and intriguing. The plot is poignant and can be thoroughly enjoyed by both children and adults of all ages. I think it didn't do as well at the box office because so many people were distracted by all the shopping, but I think it will have legs and will do better in the coming weeks!… Expand
Jun 1, 2014Without a doubt this movie tries to be more than what it is. Dreamworks hit a new low with this film, and it shows in their completely annoying and idiotic character Jack Frost. Also while I understand that this is a children's movies, some of the dialogue is incredibly cringeworthy and the jokes come up empty. The animations are decent, but the idea of listening to Chris Pine's effort in trying to portray a clueless teen boy, it's just not worth it.… Expand
Jul 23, 2014My brother (older) was excited about seeing this; he was disappointed, and he loves 'Despicable Me 2' more than just about any other animation movie. The characters are annoying and the film, while artistically stunning, lacks an interesting plot. The pacing for me is for me just like the voice of HAL from '2001' is monotone. Plus, the action is completely unnecessary in an animated fantasy about something that adheres to young children, for the most part. A lot of things could have been taken out and a lot of things added that could make this movie more entertaining and thoughtful.… Expand
Aug 22, 2013While there are certain things in the film could have been handled better the stuff that is good in this movie is unbeliavblely good. The world of the guardians and their powers make this film enjoyable to watch. This is a great movie for kids and even adults to a certain extent and make sure you watch it in 3D because it only adds to the experience.
Jun 4, 2013"While its not going to earn "classic" status, it still on more than one occasion gets the job done. Its the Avengers for kids, it has action, laughs and a great story. It reminds us all the fun it was to be a kid again & to never forget what's important" B+
Aug 18, 2013DreamWorks once again proves it knows how to make an excellent looking animated movie while still maintaining the clever writing that brings the laughs. Surprisingly enough this is not only a movie that your kids will enjoy, but you will as well. Once again DreamWorks assembles some big names to create another astounding voice cast. The writing is excellent providing an great plot and tons of humor. It manages to harness that childish energy that reminds us why these fictional characters are so loved, and how much fun and joy it brought to believe in them. Animated kid movies rarely get much better than this outside of Pixar, but DreamWorks proves that it has what it takes to stand along side them.… Expand
Mar 26, 2013First off, I love animated films. I thought this movie was really good as it gave us an insight how the Guardians work, even if it was a bit cheesy at times! And I'm fourteen and I loved this film so that just goes to show it doesn't matter what age you are, animation is always good!
Feb 26, 2013Enjoyable but derivative, Rise of the Guardians is a typical Dreamworks' animated fare that kids will like, but will not resonate as well as their other works. If you want a better treatment of this type of story, then look no further than Dreamworks' own Kung Fu Panda or How to Train a Dragon.
Dec 23, 2012I wished I liked this movie more. Honestly, it was a mixed bag. On the upside, the animation and designs of the characters and settings were unbelievably creative (especially the Tooth Fairy). All of the different worlds were stunning, including the villain's lair. I also like how Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, and Sandman were re-imagined. My favorite character would have to be Russian Santa voiced by, get this, Alec Baldwin.
However, there were many noticeable flaws. The story was kind of generic. It's the typical "you just gotta believe" message. Also, I couldn't get into Jack Frost. He's not a bad character by any means, but he wasn't a strong or interesting enough character to be the main focus of the film and it's especially more obvious when you see just how inventive the rest of the characters were. As for the villain, I wanted to like him, but...urgh. He wasn't that intimidating and he came across as very prissy.
Overall, this movie was fine. There was definitely a lot of effort put into this film and for a first time director, it was really good. It just could have used some major changes in the story. This wasn't the best kids movie to come out this year, but it was satisfying enough. If you're an animation fan, check it out.… Expand
Apr 14, 2013One of the most underrated animated films of all time. May not be as visually impressive as I hoped it would be but I fell in love with the characters, They are simply too awesome not to like. It's rare that I enjoy a film as much as I did this one, I actually broke out smiling during the end and didn't stop until it was over, It's a very cute film that I am sure kids and adults will enjoy. The only negative thing I can say about it is that the plot is a little shallow, Dialogue isn't as good as I hoped it would be. However, I enjoyed this film so much that I can overlook that. I would highly recommend due to the incredibly likeable characters and how much originality the film has.… Expand
Jan 2, 2013Visually delicious with an original and very dark story. Both for adults and kids. Stunning animation. Highly recommended. I loved it. I love lamp. Blah blah blah
Dec 16, 2013While not one of the best, Rise of the Guardians will surely entertain the young and the young at heart with its likable characters and its action-packed scenes.
Dec 18, 2012This movie. The scenery and characters are very interesting and fun to look at, the story is very well done from beginning to... Middle. Near the end of the movie, it gets very cheesy. I won't spoil anything, but the story could have been better. This movie is entertaining, but overall slightly overrated by the users. It's an entertaining movie, nothing more, nothing less. I'll give it a 6 out of 10.… Expand
Nov 27, 2012this movie makes me wish I was able to believe in magic again. with a cool set of characters (Russian Santa) with colorful character designs and personalities. the story itself is pretty generic but its execution breaths new life into the formula. Jack Frost is a very likable character that you ill feel for. And Pitch is a very likable villain too the way he talks and moves and tries to get jack to join him is fun. This is a movie suitable for children and it'll have parents liking it along with them. If you have siblings or just want to see it out of guilty pleasure i definitely recommend.… Expand
Nov 27, 2012Rise of the Guardians brings together all the characters that made our childhood wonderful and they are not at all as we were imagining them. But behind the funny personalities lies the responsibility of protecting the children and this combination makes the movie a must-see. The only bad part I could see was the story. It is too simple considering the potential of the characters.
Aug 24, 2013OK, so I saw the trailers and I really wanted to see this, and it was good, but I`t just didn`t have the magic to to meet my expectations. Rise of the Guardians has a good message and I give it points for that, but the movie overall was nothing amazing.
Dec 2, 2012It's certainly no "How To Train Your Dragon" but it's undoubtedly one of DreamWorks strongest animated films. With fun characters, a reasonably good plot and some great visuals that make perfect use of 3D. It's definitely worth checking out.
Dec 2, 2012Was having trouble caring at first, but I guess I was drawn in by the visuals which were stunning. By the end I was completely engaged with the story as well.
Dec 5, 2012I went into this movie thinking it would be okay and came out loving it. While premise may seem silly, worked surprisingly well and you fall in love with all the characters. Jack Frost especially, who you realize it a much more complex character than he appears to be. Movie also shows itself to be more than just fun when at a few moments it becomes rather dark, which in a kids movie was great to see as an adult watching. Overall, a very very enjoyable animated film which is original, gorgeously animated, and definitely pulls you in. Highly recommended!… Expand
Apr 24, 2013A decent holiday movie. Interesting and unique story and view on classic characters. Just a shame the story felt a little too underwhelming. Animation is superb, voice acting great. Chris Pine is perhaps a bit too average sounding for the role. I never in a million years would have spotted Alec Baldwin, he is funny and more or less steals the show as far as the voice talent is concerned. Pitch Black is an interesting take on the boogyman character, but also a bit too non-threatening. Comes accross a more like a creepy accountant than a main villain.
A nice fun film form the holidays that had me smiling most of the way through. It could have been better, but for what it is, it is great!… Expand
Jan 24, 2013Rise of the Guardians is a fun and exciting animated movie that both kids and adults will love, but it also feels like it has a story that has been done many times before. We all believed in these holiday figures when we were kids, I loved thinking about Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny coming into my home and leaving me presents and eggs, and that is part of the charm of this movie. The writers know that kids and adults all loved these figures at one point in their life, and so making a movie where they all team up to protect us actually sounds like a lot of fun. The movie has a lot of likable characters and has a lot of heart, so you can believe me when I say that this is a very good film. But I also felt like this kind of story has been done many times before and that I could predict how this movie was going to play out. I saw "Wreck-It Ralph" a few weeks ago and it was one of the most original animated movies I have seen in several years, and that is what made it a terrific film. This story is a lot of fun, but I just wish that they had tried harder to make it more original for the adults. But I must also remember that this is a children's movie, and the children are going to have a lot of fun here. This is pretty much an animated version of "The Avengers" since both films involve heroes all teaming up to save the world. I really enjoyed this movie and I had a really fun time, and despite my small problem with the story, this is still a good movie that people of all ages will enjoy and have a fun time.… Collapse
Feb 2, 2013The animation in this film was spectacular. However, the plot was quite boring for me, and was extremely cliched. The same general plot has been used many times in the past, and it wasn't like this movie executed it any better. The pacing had many problems, and the villain wasn't all that intimidating. This movie would get a 7/10 from me, simply because of its awesome animation.
Apr 15, 2013This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Amazing film I really enjoyed watching it. It's great how it brings well known and love characters to life and creates the feeling that they all know each other. A good all round fun family film. I could watch it over and over again. This film also gives a very good visual idea of the characters and the places they come from. This movie also encourage team work and belief in yourself. I would give it a 30000/100… Expand
Jul 7, 2013imagine the avengers who meeting the child's world and it gives "rise of the guardians"
all the characters is here the santa claus the Tooth Fairy easter bunny, sandman.
I confess I did not know who was jack frost
Jul 4, 2013"Rise of the Guardians" may have some issues with pacing, but it's a visual wonder, and will delight a child's eye. The art displayed in the film is beautiful, and you sometimes cannot help to feel magical with your favorite childhood heroes on the big screen once again.
Jan 23, 2014I was born in the early 90's so I got to grow up seeing a lot of those old claymation films about Santa Claus, Jack Frost, the Easter Bunny etc.. so this was really cool for me to be able to relive my childhood in a way that's new and actually interesting for someone my age. The character designs are great, personalities are fun, and animation is gorgeous. Another thing I love is the deeply meaningful story underlying the protagonist in a way that is fitting for young children, but only truly comprehensible and appreciated by the more mature audience, keeping teenagers and adults entertained along with the children.… Expand
Jan 13, 2014A fun and exciting kids flick with a lot of heart and soul. The only thing that surprised me was the portrayal of children as quite flippant in their belief system.
Jan 25, 2014This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. So far this movie has many things I liked, I liked the animation and the idea of Holiday icons being transformed into protectors of children. But I know several people, including my English teacher finds that idea absurd, but... I didn't think it was absurd at all. The characters were pretty much people I could sympathize with in real life. They all have strengths and flaws that make them believable, including North(Santa Claus) who puts kids on 'Nice' and 'Naughty' lists(tattoos) and Pitch(the Boogeyman who always felt alone). I also admire that rival- brotherly relationship with Jack and Bunnymund, they were funny and likable wherever they went, the part where Bunny gets furious at Jack was also pretty sad, it shows that their relationship was not perfect. I also liked how Tooth Fairy(the only female Guardian) wasn't treated as just a love-interest or a refrigerator victim(Sandman instead) throughout the movie, she can be aggressive if anyone messes with her friends and family. The fatherly/or grandfatherly bond between Jack and North was also pretty loving, since Jack hasn't lived with his family for many years, North also guides Jack to find his "center" in which it makes him a Guardian. The relationship I loved the most was between Jamie Bennett(Jack's first believer) and Jack Frost, they were both like real siblings ever since Jack followed him around ever since that sleigh ride. Jack Frost was my favorite out of all the characters since he may be a trickster, but is a kind, heroic person, especially to children.
Positives:Beautiful animation, wonderful music, battle sequences, playful humor, excellent voice-acting, interesting storylines, and characters
Negatives:Not many females, 300 years is too long, why can't anyone rescue Jack from drowning?, what type of English did people use during Jack's time when he was human?… Expand
Jan 25, 2014This movie has a great feel to it. The voicing is incredible and brings the whole film to life. The visual effects are out of this world, everything down to the lighting, the colour and detail is out of this world. I have never seen an animation as beautiful and awe-inspiring as this.
I most of all love the new take on the characters. The Russian Santa clause (known as North in the film) is so different and I love that. The fact that Tooth has little helpers is much more realistic than the conventional concept of the tooth fairy doing it all on her own. I especially love the fun and loving take on Jack Frost, depicting him as a youthful, fun character who loves having a bit of a good around with the children rather than an evil, middle-aged villain. My favourite character has to be the Easter bunny. The Australian accent, the Aussie idioms thrown in by Hugh just make the dialogue that much better, and what a great idea to have boomerangs as weapons! Even pitch black is a pretty awesome character (despite being the ultimate villain, the boogeyman). Jude law is the perfect voice for this character, his velvet voice is absolutely incredible and completes this character as well as the whole movie. I love that the characters are all depicted as superheroes in the fight scenes, all with their own quirky powers. Of course, some people who lack imagination and wonder may find this film boring, repetitive or just stupid. But if you look at and appreciate the finer parts of this movie, some of which I have listed above (voicing, visual effects, originality of the characters etc, then I think you will find this film extremely enjoyable and very fun. Over all, this movie (in my opinion) is breathtaking, fun, excitable and extremely beautiful, but obviously it won't be some peoples cup of tea.… Expand
Oct 14, 2014With the art style of William Joyce, DreamWorks Animation, it reminds me of Disney's Meet the Robinsons, and Blue Sky's Robots for its unique designs. The story is okay not great, but it works I guess.
It's gorgeously designed, deftly written and frequently laugh-out-loud funny. For child or adult, this is a fantasy to get lost in.
Nov 25, 2012More "oooh… aaah" than "ho-ho-ho", ROTG is so full of yuletide razzmatazz that only true Scrooges will have trouble stomaching it. If only Santa's workshop had given the script more of a tinker...
Nov 23, 2012The Guardians make a winning team that is a prime candidate for a sequel, just like "The Avengers."


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Remember The Trabants?
On Saturday the band arrive at the Olympic Stadium in Berlin, the city where they made Achtung Baby at the beginning of the 1990's. Anyone remember... the trabants?
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MagnificentAMP - 15 September, 2009
Zoo Memories
Wow--that really brings it all back to me! I fell in love with Achtung Baby! and U2 in 92 and saw Zoo TV in St. Louis in Sep 92--I had never seen anything like it and was just in awe--seeing the Trabbies suspended in the original Busch stadium was surreal. Here it is almost exactly 17 years later and I just saw the 360 tour in Chicago--another awe-inspiring moment with "The Claw". Thanks Bono, Edge, Larry, and Adam! You always lift my spirits.
Chacho - 17 July, 2009
ACHTUNG: From Mexico to Zoo Station in B
I saw the Trabis during the Tour in Mexico and in Germany. See you again in Berlin...and in Amsterdam! I wish to hear Acrobat!
Martin Pala - 17 July, 2009
Achtung Berlin !
My three friends and I are going tomorrow by one car through mysterious ways from Prague, the Czech Republic and cannot wait seeing (and of course hearing:-) U2 again plus enjoying the atmosphere of the city where a brilliant U2 album was born. We are staying overnight and plan to visit some interesting places (not only zoo station). We are sure that tomorrow's concert will be even better than the real thing and will love U2 until the end of the world:-). Martin
copenhagentribe - 17 July, 2009
Berlin - here we go
Achtung Baby and the Zoo Tv tour what a great record and what a show. Tomorrow we are coming from Copenhagen, Demark to see a new welt class performance from the 4 lads. Ultra Violet(Light my way)- can't wait. Midnight, is where the day begins.... See y'all in Berlin Greetings from Copenhagen Michael
micha_wattanabe - 17 July, 2009
Absolutely Fantastic
I thought about the trabants since I read, that there will be a berlin-gig again. Can't wait for tomorrow. The Zoo-TV-Tour was so fantastic, outstanding and innovative that I love the memory so much, that I can't describe it. Tomorrow will be fantastic, i'm excited and really can't wait to get in the car and do the 500 Km. Pleeeeeaaaase - play "As white as Snow". Plllleeaaaaaaaaaaasssse!!!!! See you tomorrow!!! Cheers; Micha.
DIVIL - 17 July, 2009
cleared to begin orbit
mission control to U2 you have been cleared to begin orbiting your home town, landing site croke park is ready... see you in a week boys... please open saturdays dublin show with magnificant
minnieminoprio - 17 July, 2009
I remember that moment as "one" of the most exciting: for the album and songs(breaking sounds ad words), for videos and picture (i didn't recognise Edge woman's dressed!), for tour (the first one where all five senses were involved) where Trabants become animated!
mantropik - 17 July, 2009
I fly from Nottingham tonight to watch. Achtung Baby is favourite U2 album and thats wht I've chose to come to Berlin and see the boys rather than waot for England. I agree with Goethe, please play Stay (Faraway So Close)... A fantastic song & great video of Berlin.
PekkaR - 17 July, 2009
Zoo Station
Yeah, never saw the tour...too young they say I was at that time :S I really really hope to hear Zoo Station played tomorrow in Berlin! Please :)
Pee4music - 16 July, 2009
berlin station!
Flying tonight from the Netherlands to Berlin. Love to see U2 playing in the city where they recorded one of the best albums ever. I'm really looking forward to it. I hope they play some extra songs from Achtung Baby in Berlin. I have very beautifull memories thinking on that album. See ya saterday evening!
monique27 - 16 July, 2009
The Fly
Do i ever remember! Achtung Baby the most rocking album of the 90's! And still rocking. Great videoclips made in Berlin. It's a shame they won't play the fly, one of my favourates. A few days and the A'dam Arena is rocking. I cann't hardly wait.
nbayer - 16 July, 2009
Zoo TV spotlights
One of the coolest things about Zoo TV was the trabants hoisted up on a big mechanical arm with the headlights as spotlights. I haven't seen anything that cool since then at a show. Zoo TV was the greatest tour set I've ever seen. I can't pass judgement on 360 yet because I have tix to Chicago.
karenlawler - 16 July, 2009
Women's clothes
I am ok with the Trabants but just hope that U2 are not returning in women's clothes!
fonbonjoley - 16 July, 2009
T E L E V I S I O N !!!!!!!!!!!!! how could anyone forget Zoo TV, adams bleached mohawk? MirrorballMan? Mr MacPhisto?!? - adams Zoo station bass line turning stadiums into giant parties... I Gotta go, I'm runnin outta change
Scubababe - 16 July, 2009
Memories of ZOO
This takes me back to some awesome times -U2 captured remarkable moments in history without taking themselves too seriously! Loved that tour! See you in Dublin!
lufego - 16 July, 2009
ACHTUNG Baby ! !
I believe that every U2 real fan remember very good the ZOO TV TOUR. I love that tour. Now the 360 Tour will be in Germany and We will remember were achtung baby born. This new tour has a big moment when the band sings "Ultra Violet". It is a very strong and melodic song. Well, I am waiting the band to see the 360 Tour, cheers, Luiz.
sisterthemoon1997 - 16 July, 2009
Trabants on stage
Germany welcomes U2, Hansa Studios is a majestic place. We would need a trabant on stage Saturday or Even Better Than The Real Thing in The Set. See You in Berlin!
kheper - 16 July, 2009
The Best of the Best
Unbelievable!! Awesome!! These are just few of the words that can describe the Four Gods' from Ireland show at Stade de France, Paris last Saturday. Me and my friend came all the way from Thessaloniki, Greece to watch the show and it was most definitely worth it! Can you believe that I was actually waiting for this moment 12 years?! It was September of 1997 when U2 came to Thessaloniki and I couldn't be at the show, but I watched it on a video wall just outside the city. That's why the concert in Paris was of a great importance to me as I've been expecting it for so long and misfortune had it that I wasn't present in any of the shows after PopMart Tour... Keep helping us Breathe... Ariadne
AchtungBoris - 16 July, 2009
So wish...
I wish was old enough to have seen them on the Zoo TV tour... Still, Achtung was the album that got me into 'em at age 10, so makes me smile. Is - and will always be - their best album.
isil - 16 July, 2009
Istanbul - Berlin
We are flying from Istanbul tomorrow! We have been waiting for sooooo long. See you!
daddysgirl - 16 July, 2009
How could I forget
Those were the days...watching this video brought back a lot of memories, and tears to my eyes!
pepaangelova - 16 July, 2009
Yes, I remember very well trabant. I am from Bulgaria and here are still moving in the streets
goethe - 16 July, 2009
Ab 1990 bis 2009
Hallo (hello), es ist klärer auf English/it's clearer in English :-) The Trabants, were small cars producted in Zwickau (town, in the former East Germany). They were among the symbols, of the German Democratic Republic. After the Wall's falling, and "die Wende", the phase when Germany become a unique Nation again, the factory closed down. As imaginable, Trabants were really unsatisfying, compared by runabout cars created in West Europe. * Coming back to the U2 venue tomorrow, I watched the first date in Milan. I'm in Berlin to meet friends, and to watch the U2 at Olympia Stadion :-). I really hope they will play the jewel "Stay", from the Wender's Film "So far so close", and "Zoo Station" (from the fantastic "Achtung Baby"). Both songs, are so too much connected with this special city! If they will not play them... gig will be fantastic as always :-) Wishing Fun and Feelings to everybody!
Garry - 16 July, 2009
ACHTUNG MEMORIES !Great
Cant believe it was that long ago,great era for the band,they needed that change after the joshua tree,so did we as fans,thats were they learned re-invention still doing it today,come on berlin get behind the boys,your in for one hell of show..Best ever.
IKA3003 - 16 July, 2009
Achtung Baby
My favorite and the most powerfull album!!! That times' Berlin made this ulbum so dark, deep and misterious. I beg you played Acrobat and So Cruel guys!! BTW: Ultraviolet is fantastic in this tour but I was a bit disippointed with Mystirious Ways-as it lacked sexyness and edge's solo, actually it needs to be more worked up.
denisehestar - 16 July, 2009
Can't wait :-) Driving from Denmark tomorrow - not in a Trabant ;-) Denise
rammie - 16 July, 2009
U2's finest hour
When the band were at their absolute peak, producing probably their best piece of work and undoubtedly their finest tour, Zoo TV. Fantastic memories.
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Priscilla Jarman
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:49 pm
Post subject: Sense of morality
One of the classic examples is GM food. We all understand that for centuries people have been developing - basic grass has created grain, even by cross-fertilisation - we all understand the gentic side of it. When we get slightly worried is when they start putting animal proteins into it, because we know that somehow intrinsically that ain't right!
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Hilda Koester
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:51 pm
Post subject: Sense of morality
I'm for a lot of new technologies but I've got a lot of reservations about answers in the medical field in particular, in relation to cloning and stuff like that. Messing about with nature, reproduction, playing God
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Arlene Boss
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:54 pm
Post subject: Sense of morality
Interfering with the reproductive process (clonong and embryo gender selection) doesn't sit well with me. I believe in the natural forces of nature.
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Monique Ruffner
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:57 pm
Post subject: Sense of morality
Ten years ago, people said that IVF was wrong, you're playing God and you shouldn't be doing that. Now we take it totally for granted and we think it's marvellous.
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Gary Orosco
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:02 pm
Post subject: Sense of morality
IVF and organ donation have caused much controversy in the past, but obviously for the family of the person ill, you are going to go for it
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:37 am
Post subject: Re: Sense of morality
Priscilla Jarman wrote:
One of the classic examples is GM food. We all understand that for centuries people have been developing - basic grass has created grain, even by cross-fertilisation - we all understand the gentic side of it. When we get slightly worried is when they start putting animal proteins into it, because we know that somehow intrinsically that ain't right!
I agree animal proteins produce unusual
textures in fruit and veg best way don,t buy
regarding the research its brilliant I work
in nanoengineering and things like carbon
nanotube transgectors for cystic fibrosis
and viral fliters for HIV patients are just round the corner. Unfortunately the good the bad and the ugly exists in all forms of science. Frankly money is the determining factor a simple choice indeed
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:15 pm
Post subject: Re: Sense of morality
Hilda Koester wrote:
I'm for a lot of new technologies but I've got a lot of reservations about answers in the medical field in particular, in relation to cloning and stuff like that. Messing about with nature, reproduction, playing God
In my opinion, any kind of treatment to prolong or better the quality of life of a person is not
. The prehistoric peoples of the world didn't have access to either curative or paliative care, and as a result, their "natural" lifespan was much less than the accepted norm of life expectancy in developed countries today. Yet we don't see the treatments of today as inherently wrong. Even CPR, bringing a legally dead person back to life (as in their heart has stopped beating, and the shock is delivered to restart it) is totally accepted and regularly performed. So the techniques to enhance people's quality of life from cradle to grave provided from nano-technology or any other method should not have this "un-natural" stigma attached to them. I'm pretty sure the divine creator would want us to understand ourselves and our bodies, including the ways to repair it.
This said, I am against the pursuit of immortality. I think the western world has found a happy medium with the current length of life just under a century. Any more than that, and society as we know it must be completely turned on its head.
We do definitely need to stay within the boundaries of normal conduct set by our current morals.
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David N Anthony
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:42 pm
Post subject: Sense of morality
It is so easy to become emotive about issues where it might appear that man is interfering with nature. Man has been developing new strains of agriculture for thousands of years. Genes are genes. There is little difference between a gene in a plant and genes in animals when looked at from the genetic viewpoint. It is emotion and the understandable misunderstanding of those who are concerned about what might be considered to be unnatural manipulation by man. Without such manipulation we would not be able to feed the world's population. Nor would we be able to help solve the problem of blindness in many African countires. Who are we to decide that the manipulation of strains of wheat should not be allowed if that helps to prevent blindness in Africa? Nature has a way of ensuring that what might be termed as unnatural acts, cannot be undertaken through making their offspring infertile.
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Aleks Rokicki
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:56 am
Post subject: GM foods
I think all of the above points are those of validation and of truth...but I do not agree with them. I am most definately transhuman orientated in my views on all subjects of modern technology, which by definition makes me fully behind every single experiment and process that can make our existence and our childrens existence better and more comfortable in the future...the way I see the subject, there is no god, no divine influence...just us, here, now with the technology to accomplish great things...all the elements of nature are tools that we can use, so I belive that genetically modifying, or enhancing as I prefer to call it, is a great achivement...but of course these delecate matters must be reaserched fully in the intrests of general safety.
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:25 am
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I am not against technological advancement for the benefit of people, but I have problems with the following:
* publicly funded university research resulting in patents for private companies.
* (patented!) GM foodsources overwhelming very important biodiversity. Maybe some people don't think this is important, but I just don't think that it's wise to put all of our eggs in one basket, especially where our food supply is concerned!
* existing technological advances that have yet to make it to much of the world.
This last point is, I think the crux of the matter; with the current "profit-drives-innovation" model, everyone should be dubious of this idea of technology being generally benevolent. Of course, technology is not inherently good or bad, it's just that it is naive to assume that any private business will ever put the good of humanity ahead of $$$.
If this wasn't true, then why are "we" talking about nanotech that allows our shirts to monitor our pulse, when millions of people don't have enough to eat every day! Will this technology ever benefit them? The fact is that much of the world is still waiting for the arrival of what is to us, antique technology. Why? Because they can't afford it.
I know that to some I sound like a reactionary left-wingnut, and to others I could be better informed to make these arguments... but hey, I am what I am, just like the world is what it is.
Take profit out of the equation, and I will trust it.
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I have read the many responses posted and have very many resplys. First, I'm not seeing the association of nanotechnology with our food supply, unless we are eating more cabon rings (balls) than I'm aware of? Secondly, the growth of innovation does create fear, fear of the unknown and this coupled with the best sci-fi writers of our time to create additional undue stress on our already stressed out populations.
The fact remains the creation of the new carbon ring or "Ball" (nanotechnology) has created one of the greatest innovations of the history of the world. The development of nanotechnology has ammended the laws of physics and has the potential to create greater advances in technology than any other time in our civilized history. This new technology has huge potential in not only high technology, but in mdeical applications beyond our belief. In turn, human suffering, illness can be reduced and benfit greatly by the research scientists are deidcating their lives on. Unfortunately, corporations sponsor much of the research because fund at university levels are low, so many times there is a right to the invention, since many times the corporations is the one which sponsored the research.
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