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Before anybody goes diving through combat logs, could you detail your strategy for Galakras? Perhaps you are doing something wrong.
I'm asking for a rather large bit of help, if any are willing.
I'm the raid leader of a 10-man raiding group that's had its fair struggles all expansion long. We always seem to hit that "wall" in progression that takes weeks upon weeks to get through, and for Siege, Galakras has been that wall. I've taken a closer look to see what is/isn't happening with our raid and I've kinda hit a wall myself. I know our composition isn't the best - (Tanks: 2 Paladins / Healers: Priest-Monk-Shaman / DPS: Mage(Frost)-DK(Frost)-Hunter(Survival)-2 Priest) - but for the sake of finishing the expansion, I didn't think it would be a problem. Kind of a "working with what we have" situation. But, I've always worried that we had poor DPS, and by that I mean skill in effectively pulling on average what the class/spec/gear is capable of. Though of late, I've been told that a bigger problem is really our class comp, which features some of the poorest and slowest possible DPS specs in the game. I've had to walk many of our raiders through the class rotation guides on Icy Veins to some good success about the time of Heart of Fear raiding, then mandate keeping up with Ask Mr Robot for Reforge/Gem/Enchants to make sure we're at our most effective, but like I said, I'm just not sure anymore where our problems lie. Do I have poor DPSers? Or do I have good players with bad specs?
I have a couple of logs I can share.
- The first is our regular raid composition from a couple weeks back:
- This is one of our more recent go's at Galakras, our current "wall", with a fill-in for our Hunter who wasn't able to make it:
We dropped Thunder King prior to Siege and Heroic Jinrok, which I think means we should be able to handle normal mode at the very least, but of late, I'm starting to wonder. If anyone could share anything they notice, I would appreciate any constructive criticism.
Before anybody goes diving through combat logs, could you detail your strategy for Galakras? Perhaps you are doing something wrong.
A quick look at stuff
- One of the pallies appears to still be using GoSoI
- Mage doesn't keep their Bomb Spell up
- Lots of people staning in Flaming arrows
- Healers look bored, maybe 2 heal it
- Tank DPS seems Low.
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Hunters, Just get a Sporebat, most LFRs will be missing that buff.
You just don't have good DPSers I'm afraid. Your setup is more than OK in my opinion. I mean your elemental shaman is doing so low I have no idea how, since all he has to to is chain lightning. No clue why your mage is playing frost when arcane absolutely dominates this patch, but that's about it. That being said, that healing tide totem the shaman mob drops does a shit ton of healing on those adds, around 100 million. Just make sure you focus it down very very quickly, your paladin tank should be able to drop it really quick even on his own.
Other than that, if you ask for advice you should also say exactly what in the fight you are having trouble with, though as I see it you just cannot DPS down each wave before the next.
Thank you for the responses thus far, I should have included our strategy for Galakras so far. We've used two:
1. Two healing
- This strat had two 5 man teams (as videos have suggested) with one tank and one healer each.
Tower Team: Paladin tank, Priest healer, Frost DK, Frost Mage, Shadow Priest
Ground Team: Paladin tank, Monk healer, Ele Shaman, Shadow Priest, Survival Hunter
So, together, we burn down adds until first demolisher is up, kill demolisher, then tower team assaults first tower. They come down, help with adds until second demolisher, we all kill demolisher, then tower team assaults tower 2. We coordinate adds with pulling boss, boss lands, we split up into 2 teams on the ground and start jumping behind ground group to absorb dmg from fireball, then switch groups around 5 stacks to ease healing.
With this strat, we find it hard getting TO the dragon boss phase, let alone living far into it. If the Shaman don't die, we get Bonecrushers and a single tank can't interrupt both shaman and bonecrusher, let alone another wave with more of each.
2. Three Healing
- This strat uses two 5-man teams.
Tower Team: Paladin Tank, Shaman Healer, Frost DK, Shadow Priest, Frost Mage
Ground team: Paladin Tank, Monk Healer (fist weaving), Disc Priest (atonement healing), Survival Hunter, Shadow Priest
Together, we all burn adds up to and including the first demolisher. Tower team assaults first tower, then drops to finish adds and next demolisher, but stays to help with the next set of adds. They assault second tower, drop back into group and use the same strategy of splitting up the damage from the fireball.
With this strat, we have the most success getting back into the dragon boss phase, but we have the hardest time cleaning up adds before the dragon drops, be it because shaman/bonecrushers aren't killed before the next wave, or because we lose people going into the phase.
Note: When we split into a two heal strat, we push our Resto Shaman to go Ele, leaving our Monk and Priest to continue healing. His gear is still mostly gem/reforged/enchanted to Healing, so he pulls what he can. We try to single target Shaman/Bonecrushers when up, but for the life of me, they just don't die fast enough using 2 healer strat, let alone 3 healer strat. Also, with our Hunter having been gone the last couple weeks, we've been using fill-ins of a Rogue or (another) shadow priest to stay raiding. We've mixed up our DPS among the two teams a bit because of this, but yet to find a solid build that allows us to stay ahead or at least keep up with the waves of adds coming out. Mage/Spriest was the last ground team setup we had in the second log above.
Um you interupt the shaman, you stun the bone crushers out of their channel, it's not interuptable. Anyone with a stun can stop the bonecrushers. All paladins have a stun, all shaman have a stun, all monks have access to a stun, all DKs have acces to stun Frost mages have a stun, and anyone with an interupt can interupt the shaman, not just the tanks, All mages have an interupt, all monks have an interupt, all paladins have an interupt, all DKs have an interupt, all shaman have an interupt, and all hunters have an interupt. You need to make sure every knows how to use their class, not just how to DPS.
Just looking at the attempt you linked you're also really bad at stomping the shaman's totems; they did nearly 70 million effective healing, that more than half of the dragons health.
Is one DPS jumping into each the cannons on the tower as soon as the tower boss dies? they should be able to take out some of the protodrakes bombing the ground.
In the burn phase on Galakras, forget clearing you stacks, only tanks should do that, have everyone stack on the dragon's ass (should be around Lorthemar's starting position), and have whomever the ball targeted on run out the back and once they've been hit, truturn to the dragons ass. the ieda is everyone gets hits by the ball, to the explosion is as light as it can be, the healers will have to deal with the stacking dot, but as 8 out 10 of you are stacked healing rain/SCK should hit everyone except the tanks. the tanks want to swap around every 3 stacks or so and if the tank who doesn't have aggro position themselve properly they should still be able to DPS.
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Hunters, Just get a Sporebat, most LFRs will be missing that buff.
As an extra on tower teams:
While my guild probably has a more geared (and possibly skilled) team, we manage to 2heal this fight relatively easy, leaving us with the extra DPS at the bottom. But I would still think the following strategy adjustments might help you:
* Keep the Shaman on the ground, let him help interrupt the War Shaman and drop Grounding Totem if needed. Make sure all the ground people are in the same group for Grounding.
* The healer in the tower can always help with DPS on the miniboss if needed through atonement/fist weaving.
* Your ground tank should have the 30s stun talent for this fight just so he can do nearly all of the stuns needed on Bonecrushers. Make sure you have a DPS assigned to stun the second crusher in a pack if there is one.
* Our Paladin tank uses Holy Prism as well on this fight, casting it on himself during the waves and on the boss in the last phase. Light's Hammer might still be preferred for the tank doing towers (help AoE heal = healer can help DPS)
* I'm not sure Halo would be the preferred talent for this fight for your tower Priests. I would think Cascade helps your Disc Priest far more in the tower, while the shadow priest going up might want to Divine Star, as neither will be standing far enough from their targets to get the most out of Halo. Talk to your Priests, ask what they think.
* I would send up the Hunter instead of the Mage in the tower, but that may depend on their awareness and capabilities.
* If you can, send the shadow priest + tank/healer down from the tower once the boss is dead to help finish up the adds on the ground. The other two DPS should be able to clear the last 3 adds on their own and they won't be taking damage anyway.
* Advanced tactic: If your tower healer is good enough, your tank & DK can start on the first pack of tower adds, pulling them just out the doorway while ranged kill the demolisher, but this would give you more flaming arrows, which your DPS seem to like to hug.
* Same setup and ideas as above, with some extras:
* Your Shaman should be able to Chain Lightning most of the packs, while at the same time still doing the interrupt & grounding for the War Shaman. You should be able to bounce CL off of Healing Tides & Banners, so maybe have him make a macro to target those ASAP? That way you always have atleast 1 person killing the annoying stuff while the rest focuses on getting the Bonecrusher down. (Plus, as you can't expect him to do awesome single target nuke DPS, it might be better to put him on a utility job)
* IF the damage on the ground is too much, look and see if you can't take the shadow priest from the tower and keep him on the ground. As long as your ground team can keep the waves under control, your tower team only need to finish just before the next tower opens. Again, this purely depends on how well your DPS perform their jobs.
* If you are going for a 5man tower team with 2 healers, definitely have your Priest go up with them, so he can smite down the demolisher before going up. It shortens the time until you capture the tower while still giving you some healing at the start of the wave.
I hope that gave you some ideas on how to improve your tactics.
PS: Don't forget to click the rope on top of the first tower, it will allow you to climb up really fast once you are ready on the second one.
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We three heal it and our burn phase is a bit different, we put the range and healers stacked by the entrance to the pier and whoever gets targeted runs back down the pier. It gave us reference point to run down when we were struggling on this the first week and we've just kept it that way. Dragon faces away from the raid and any melee that get targeted by the ball run back through the ranged. Granted we did this since icy-veins' guide early on said melee didn't get targeted by the ball.
Dropping stacks, as has been pointed out, is not really that critical for other than the tanks; lessening the aoe damage is more impt.
Also, flaming arrows, people need to move the ticks actually hurt as you stand there - DBM should be screaming and people just need to side step, not a big deal.
What my guild found helpful was 3 manning the towers. Myself (prot pally), our resto shammy, and our fury warrior. We basically get in there and get it cleared with just enough time to drop down, finish off the second Demolisher and run up the second tower in one clean swoop. The warrior does the cannon and just kinda hauls ass across the road straight to the tower when he's done.
For this to work you obviously need to have 3 rather solid players on tower, but if you can beat the DPS requirement of finishing the tower before the next one starts, it is entirely worth it since the ground team just has a much smoother time and almost no add buildup.
Once we finish the second tower I run across the road, the warrior stays in the tower 2 cannon, and we just immediately pull the boss unless there is a wave of adds inbound. I'm able to jump down and get threat on the boss immediately and the raid stacks on the bosses ass while the tanks stand about 10 yards apart in front of the boss.
And if one of your prot pallies is just a complete badass, you can go ahead and try to two man the towers with 1 tank and one dps like I ended up doing a few times last night cause my guild was having a derp of a farm night and our resto shammy got killed repeatedly -_-
I really wish I had a log of that crap.
Last edited by Gregasaurous; 10-10-2013 at 05:16 PM.
We just downed this boss for the first time last week, so we may have just gotten lucky, but what we found needed doing was to keep our three heavy DPS on the ground and four man the tower (weak DPS tank, healer, two DPS) since if your ground team gets overrun, you're toast.
Assign your heaviest DPS the job of pseudotanking the shaman, since he stands at the back unless pulled into the group, and it takes the pressure off your ground tank to watch interrupts on him _and_ the Bonecrushers if you have the waves occasionally overlap like we did. Have your ground tank keep the rest of the pack away from the shaman and his healing tide totems if you're running behind, or to help burn him down if you aren't.
Our group has about 110K DPS over yours despite your group in the log you posted 5.5 DPSing it, with all five of our DPS having our legendary cloaks, plus one tank using the DPS cloak and epic meta (*whistles innocently*) and we're barely keeping up with some of the enrage timers as we learn the fights. The gear check is pretty harsh starting with Norushen, IMHO, and your best bet is to do what we did -- if you keep bashing your head on the wall, drop down to Flex for the week -- it's substantially easier and has almost as good gear.
Also, you don't need to bring down Galakras immediately after clearing the second tower. We brought the tower team down to clean up the last adds and sent someone up right as the last wave was near death to bring her down after that -- there's a little wiggle room to clean stuff up in there.
A good barometer is for tower one, send 2 DPS up with the tank and healer and notice how much time you have left after the wave with the shaman is dead. Ours had 21 seconds left before the next adds, but only 3 when we lost the third DPS for tower two, so tiny mistakes cost us the attempt.
Mostly it's just practice and getting the rhythm down. If you're already getting to the dragon phase reliably, just hold up a few seconds to clean up the last wave and you should be good.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that the friendly NPCs in this fight actually can help you some. Make sure the sets of adds are pulled at least back into the big flamestrike that one of the NPCs drops. I know it can look scary, but its hurting the enemy adds, not you. This can account for a large chunk of extra damage done to all of the mobs.
As for the towers, as some have mentioned, gauge how quickly you are getting down the boss at the top so as to say how many people to send up and DEFINITELY once the tower is clear, have one of your dps hop into the cannon and kill off all the dragons in the sky (except of course the boss). That accounts for a large bit of spikey damage at this point on top of flame arrows. Take the time to clear the skies for sure.
Lastly, you don't HAVE to drop the boss down as soon as you are done with the second tower. You can wait for the tower team (minus one dpser who stays up and then eventually another dpser to go to the first tower when you are ready) to hop down and help clean up adds. There are usually a few shaman up at this point, lock em down, blow em up. You can even wait until the little protodrakes spawn (which is well after you are likely to have the second tower dead). Then wait until those drakes are almost dead and send up your cannon guys to shoot down the boss. As someone mentioned, the rope helps get those people up quickly but do whatever you need to do.
I'll examine the logs for the "poor dps" complaints and see if I can add anything more than what has already been said. Just keep at it, this one is a little bit of a brick wall for guilds such as yours given what you said about last tier.
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yeah the thing with bringing them back to our NPCs is paramount, we wasted an entire night of dying on the Galakras burn phase until we realiese the NPCs where nigh doubling our raid DPS.
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Ya, that too. When I tanked I always tried to be proactive in my cooldown usage unless I knew I had to save it for something. I tried to never let my HPs drop below about 40%. My philosophy was "if a tank didn't press all the buttons he/she could, then the death was partially their fault too." Within reason of course, sometimes you just get gibbed and it wasn't really anyways fault... but I digress.
Point is clicking some cooldowns is NOT the same thing as being a "clicker" and "keyboard turner."
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oh, I know, that's my point. It's not doable without keybinds.
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I have about 30-35 binds, roughly half to two-thirds I'll use on any particular encounter, but the binds hit vary, so they're all basically useful on one fight or another. Not including wasd for movement and caps lock for PTT either...so 40 or so if you count those...
I've never been able to get the hang of using a mouse (hate the stupid things). Been playing WoW on a laptop w/o since I started playing WoW. My keybinds are set up rough like this:
F1 (racial), F2-F5 (alternate rotation), F6-F8 (useful utilities), F9-F11 (long cast heals), F12 (Oh shit button)
"`" (target nearest enemy player), 1 (occational be useful CD), 2-5(rotation), 6-7 (proc based attacks), 8-0 (utilities), "-" (interrupt), "=" (low CD defensive CD)
Q (Oh shit Heal), W (drop-in activation 1), E (drop-in activation 2)
A (quick heal on focus), S (quick utility on focus), D (limited use disruptive CD)
";" (mapped to key 9 to hit while steering), " ' " (mapped to key "-" to hit while steering)
"." (extra action button 1), "/" (strafe left), arrowkeys for movement, Numberpad 0 (strafe right)
My number pad has alt, ctrl, and Sht keybinds with the numbers = buffs/seals/gear sets/mount, ctrl+number = target markers, etc.
Its a set up that is comfortable for me, because its the one I've used for years to play this game (muscle memory). The only downside is that I'm quite bad at PvP (just not fast enough/can't stay on target/tab-targeting doesn't target nearest enemy for some stupid reason). In raids I tank or dps, with no loss of awareness or manuverability (arrow+strafe can be done with the right hand as well as hiting interrupts, taunts, and defensive CDs as needed, while the rotation is handled by the left hand including snap heals and team member assist spells. I've also made extensive use of macros to link/fix abilities to work like I want them to work.
Like I said, works for me.
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Prot Warrior = 24 key-bound abilities (some are macros) and I have a few other abilities that are things that i don't use in raids enough for me to bother key binding, but are on my bars nonetheless. But we're going to ignore those for this discussion;5'[.
Now, i'm not trying to tell you to go buy a gaming mouse..... but they're REALLY nice to have. My top recommendations would either be a Naga, (where you have a number pad for your thumb) or the SteelSeries Cata Mouse. I use the latter of the two because I like having the buttons in different places and having to sue different fingers for different things. (That and the SteelSeries was a gift that i didn't have to pay for lol)
Anyway, point being, this gives you plenty of room to key-bind your more utility oriented abilities. (defensive CD's, CC)
In short, clicking is also bad for raid awareness. My co-tank has some defensive CD's unbound and occasionally it will cause a wipe due to a miss-click. And the only time i ever have to look at my keyboard is if i misplace my hand after strafing or something.
The issues I'm having without a mouse is that I'm slow in PvP, have some trouble switching targets (tab-targeting seems broken on quite a few fights), and can't move/fight in 3D (Maligos/dragon-vehicle fights) with any form of efficiency. However, when I go to a mouse, I lose most of the options I had available within easy reach of my right hand. Yes, could get a Naga and relearn how to play WoW. Unfortunately, I'm poor, and just can't affort a Naga. My experiments with a multi-button mouse led to me just trashing the idea and going back to keys only (2 weeks of time and valuable dollars waste). I'm sure there is a workaround, but I'm also sure that any improvements gained would be minor.
I play a Prot/Ret Paladin, and other than a few tricky target swaps there really are very few instances were my performance would improve by totally relearning how to play WoW.
Jeff, turning with your keyboard is slow, where right-clicking and turning with the mouse is instantaneous. You can bind every key your left hand can reach and then use a modifier like shift, ctrl or alt and bind more abilities over them. No need to buy a new mouse, I did it to try it out and ended up liking it. I played through 2 expansions using a shitty logitech wireless mouse or something similar.
I'm playing with a logitech microsoft intellimouse with two thumb buttons, left, right and mousewheel (that can also click). I have done for years now. You really do not need a mouse with a gazillion buttons on the side to not keyboard turn.
I would say that keybinding is alot more effective if you're trying to do things simultaneously, but then again I know people who are clickers who are just as good as keybinders.
Here's a question in response to Leethaxor's very detailed response (which I agree with). How are you able to move (do you use WASD), use a keybound ability or two that might be mapped to the right side of the keyboard (say K for instance), and keep your hand on the mouse? Or do you just only use keybindings that are multiple keys? I'm not new to keybinding, but I have never been able to participate in raids like I do currently and when you need to use an ability within .3 secs or face death, sometimes I miss it by "that much" just because I'm trying to move away from the fire, keep the boss in my sights, and use the ability right after I have just used one (or worse, having to interrupt that spell to use the one that saves your life and prevents a wipe instead)?
I'm just curious how you or some people actually setup their keybindings and their use of the mouse/camera/cursor as well. Any tips or advice would be great. I can't be a hardcore raider due to things in my life, but I want to be one of the best "casual" raiders in my guild so that they always come to me when they have a slot to fill. I don't want to let them down.
Last edited by Elven2012; 01-17-2012 at 10:09 AM.
Quite simple. Don't bind anything used frequently to keys further right then the 6THB keys
Practice hitting buttons until you know where they are just by feeling the keyboard. Learn to type without looking at the keyboard. When these things are in your muscle memory, you won't be spending that 0.3 seconds looking for the key to press it.
Main abilities are 1-7, Q-R, and V-B Cds are F1-F6, interupt is `. middle mouse button and the side mouse buttons are all short CDs. mouse wheel tilt is strafe, as extra mouse buttons are backpeddle and forwards.
I can type without looking at the keyboard...no problem there. I guess the biggest issue is when I sometimes use different computers to play (reason for this is one lags in DS). Maybe I just don't have enough keys bound, but the hardest problem for me is hitting a key and then wanting to straffe and then I end up hitting R or something like that due to misplacing my hand. I am assuming you use a mouse at all times as well?
Try rebinding strafe to A and D, and turning with the mouse.


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Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I believe parry gained from STR isn't subject to DR. In turn, each point of parry pushes more avoidance of the table than dodge does. So even without the glyph parry pulls ahead.
Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I believe parry gained from STR isn't subject to DR. In turn, each point of parry pushes more avoidance of the table than dodge does. So even without the glyph parry pulls ahead.
Base strength is not subject to DRs, Strength from all other sources is. The DR curves for parry and Dodge are no longer the same. Dodge falls off faster than Parry now. Dodge will cap out just before 66%, at that point you would need an infinite amount of dodge rating to increase your dodge%, Parry on the other hand doesn't cap out until around 235.5% this means that at low levels of dodge say 10% you want around 20% parry and as your didge improves you want even more parry, up to 3 tomes as much parry chance as you have dodge chance.
The HtL glyph has nothing to do with it.
Alright, cheers for the information I hadn't really kept up to date with the technical aspects.
So now the question is, who's gonna write out the full class guide for mists? 1-2-3 not it!
Spec: Take Avatar, all others are optional
Glyphs: HtL, HR, are prolly the highest DPS
Meta: Eternal
Gem: Avoidance for TDR, Expertise/hit for spike reduction, stamina for TTL and Mastery for everythign
Rotataion: Keep Weakened Blows up, SS>Rev>Dev, Shout the GCD before SS's CD is up
Job done.
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I'm going to be running with this spec more than likely:
Juggernaut, Impending Victory, Disrupting Shout, Shockwave, Safeguard, Storm Bolt (maybe Avatar)
For gemming I plan to go mostly hybrid, I think. Right now that's looking like:
Blue: Puissant Wild Jade (+160 Mastery/+120 Stam)
Red: Defender's Imperial Amethyst (+160 Parry/+120 Stam) or possibly even Guardian's Imperial Amethyst (+160 Expertise/+120 Stam)
Yellow: Fine Vermillion Onyx (+160 Parry/+160 Mastery) or possibly Keen Vermillion Onyx (+160 Expertise/+160 Mastery)
If possible I plan to play with this a bit more but I'm no theorycrafter.
Stormbolt is fine for where you need an extra stun, however as prot warriors our main concern is survivability, and a very large part of that is linked to Shield Block and Shield Barrier Uptimes, which is pretty much directly proportional to Rage generation. Not only is Avatar a huge chuck of rage, a good 80% of our rage income is affected by it assuming you have the worst run of SnB and Rev procs you're still gonna generate an extra 27 rage with it. worst cas scenario its half an extra shield block.
Stormbolt on the other hand has a hidden rage cost. I know it says its free, and it is, but you have to consider that prot warriors are a GCD locked class. We do not have empty GCDs. so in order to use Storm bolt we have to sacrafice either a Shield slam, Devastate, Revenge or Shout, which is actually pretty aweful. I calculate i get about 4.1RPS from GCD abilities so on average a GCD is worth 6Rage, so using stormbolt on CD will cost me a tenth of a shield block.
Stormbolt does 400% weapon damage, Devastate does 220%+meh so assuming you slip it in place of a devastate your getting less than 180%weapon damage bonus. Avatar on the other hand is a 20% increase 11% of time to everything. Weapon damage just doesn't scale well enough with AP for us to really care about it. with my knapkin maths we need more than 5AP to increase our weapon damage by 1, compare that to how well SS or Rev scale. and of course you can line up every Avatar with Skull banner.
In fact if you really wanted more DPS you'd take avatar and turn the extra rage into executes. which as prot hits like truck, on steroids, that fell from orbit, and is made of neutrons. we're talking 500k crits here.
Blood bath is likely the best DPS CD, Avatar is the only defensive CD, and Stormbolt is the utility choice, anywhere where the stun can be used it will shine, but for survivabilty and DPS it falls behind the other choices.
I think the 90-tier talent choice may be more dependent on how the fights and tank mechanics work out in practice for each new raid. If there's a lot of Warmaster-style "zomg sapper!" mechanics, Storm Bolt will more than pull its own weight in utility, depending on your raid comp.
If we don't need the toolbox I'll gladly take the extra rage and damage, of course.
edit: severely ninjad while eating.
Last edited by Travelsize; 08-19-2012 at 08:39 PM.
I agree but there are a alot of better place to talent for extra stuns than stormbolt. It really needs buffing for prot (or avatar needs nerfing). Stormbolt is just in a bad place of scaling badly with AP, Prot having low weapon damage, and going up against what is a nigh mandatory tanking talent. COncussion Blow scaled really well with AP, had a huge threat modifyer, and was a mandatory talent for vigilance and was pretty much outshone every other choice.
So do we agree on a stat priority? Capped melee stats > all? Parry over dodge for glyph of HTL? Does I cares about mastery since SB will be up near 100% on melee heavy fights?
Edit: Also the other part of it; stam gems again?
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I wouldn't agree on that at all as far as green stats go Mastery>all, if you need more EHP becuase the bosses are 3/3shotting you if you're finding damage intake too unpredictaple get more hit/exp, if you're finding you're taking too much damage overalll get avoidance and you want maybe twice the parry chance as you want dodge chance.

Mastery gives critical block and Block, the Block has some DR, the critical block doesn't.
from what limited raid testing i'bve done i haven't needed stam gems, I have been using 1 stam trinket, but for the most part on normal's you won't need stam gems unless you go for some wierd 1 tank instead of two strategy or if want to under gear it.
I think "need" is somewhat subjective, especially with respect to normal raids. "Optimal" is a better question, and really needing stam comes down to what healers look like. If mana is close to irrelevant or at least easily managable if you are able to keep your rotation up then... ya stack stam for all umpteen billion reasons that have been stated before, especially since passive CTC will be neigh impossible.
OBVIOUSLY though hit/expertise to their relative caps/useful values will be the priority at first though. The question is what to go after that. My gut says stam unless healers are in a bad way with mana.
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Need an incredibly subjective term. I'm as yet not willing to say where i would place stam becuase i don't know how much we're gonna get off gear, and if there is a "magic" threshold where enough is enough and more is just manasponging, and if what we get off gear is enough or if we;re gonna need to supplement it with gems.
I will say that Mastery>hit/exp for rage gen, even at realtively low levels of stats, the whole 10rage off critcal blocks really does make mastery our king stat
I think at this point I am going to shoot for hit/exp caps simply because they are multi purpose and I hate missing so much. I'm sure mastery is better point for point, but given that hit/exp have a hard cap that is fairly easily reached it will make my life easier and from then on I can focus on mastery.
Overall I'm not a fan of losing stats by gemming stam so I'm hoping I can avoid it completely and just use a stam trinket.
I'm seeing a lot of advice saying that we should gear and reforge for Hit/Exp and gem primarily Stamina, so unless I hear otherwise I'll probably do something similar. Gem-wise I'm now thinking:
Blue: Stam (Solid River's Heart)
Yellow: Stam/Mastery (Puissant Wild Jade)
Red: Expertise/Stam (Guardian's Imperial Amethyst) until Cap, Parry/Stam (Defender's Imperial Amethyst) afterwards
Gear-wise it looks like I'm going to be mainly looking for tank gear that has Hit/Exp and one of Parry/Dodge/Mastery rather than two avoidance stats. Gear priority seems to be Exp > Hit > Mastery >= Parry > Dodge, with Dodge being all but useless.
Mastery is definety without a doubt ahead of hit/expertise in terms of average damage redcution and RPS. as long as the boss is meleeing you.
I'm still unsold on the idea of gemming stamina. bosses just don't seem to be meleeing hard enough
Mastery doesn't have DRs, Block from mastery does have DRs, which most of the time you don't care about due to SB, critical block has no DRs.
IF Thrash works anything like Chamaeron's Double attack i'm not really all that fussed unless 3 blocked attacks can one shot me. and gemming whats best for one mechanic on one fight isn't what you should gem for all fights.


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Jul. 31, 2014
Patagonia, which sells outdoor apparel and gear, has an unusual commitment to advancing sustainability, sometimes at the expense of its profit; company is encouraging its competitors to use a natural rubber derived from a desert shrub, rather than hold the manufacturer Yulex to a yearslong exclusive contract. MORE
Jul. 27, 2014
Growing number of New Yorkers are turning their personal plots into micro farms, raising hens for eggs, rabbits for meat and bees for honey; they have turned tiny slivers of open space into productive vegetable gardens and depending on their own yards for sustenance, embracing an ethos that calls for local, sustainable agriculture to lessen impact upon the environment. MORE
Jul. 24, 2014
Participants in Jewish fellowship program Adamah live and work on a Connecticut Jewish farm, experiencing enlightenment through firsthand work with food, farming and sustainability; program has turned out around 300 graduates in past 11 years of existence. MORE
May. 18, 2014
Op-Ed article by chef Dan Barber contends that promise of farm-to-table movement has fallen short; laments that movement has failed to rework the economic and political forces that dictate how food is grown and raised in any fundamental way; calls on cooks and eaters to engage in the nuts and bolts of true agricultural sustainability. MORE
May. 17, 2014
Food waste is an increasingly hot-button issue, with cities, restaurants and companies adopting strategies for reducing problem; Environmental Protection Agency says Americans threw away more than 36 tons of food in 2012, about $165 billion worth of food annually; city of Austin, Tex, is building food collection program that will turn food scraps into compost as part of goal to eliminate 90 percent of waste it sends to landfills by 2040. MORE
May. 8, 2014
Corporations have been focusing on business travel as area in which they can reduce expenses and their carbon footprint, opting to use digital conferencing technologies to replace some face-to-face meetings; companies hope that putting greener travel policies in place may appeal to younger generation of environmentally knowledgeable employees and recruits, and would burnish their brands. MORE
Apr. 17, 2014
Dee Williams writes in her new memoir, The Big Tiny, how and why she decided to downsize her life following heart attack; inspired by trip she took to impoverished area in Guatemala, and growing sense her life was being consumed by household chores, Williams sold her three-bedroom bungalow in Portland, Ore, trading it in for 84-square-foot house she put on metal truck trailer and drove to Olympia, Wash. MORE
Apr. 13, 2014
Pop Up Repair, itinerant repair service that fixes broken or malfunctioning items, has been making appearances in storefronts and at markets since June 2013; run by ad hoc coalition of theater professionals and tinkerers, group is equal parts practical service and philosophical resistance to culture of waste. MORE
Apr. 13, 2014
Ondine Cohane travel article observes that with increasing demand, a number of organizations are helping travelers visit countries with sense of ethics and sustainability in mind; among initiatives noted is list from nonprofit Ethical Traveler of top 10 ethical destinations, and a certification system for responsible properties. MORE
Mar. 21, 2014
Advertising column examines campaign by eco-friendly soap brand Method, which narrates love story between two characters over four 30-second commercials. MORE
Mar. 13, 2014
Funeral industry is responding to demand for greener and more meaningful send-offs; back-to-basics funerals are usually cheaper than conventional ones; some estimates show that as many as one-quarter of older Americans want a green burial. MORE
Jan. 23, 2014
Lily Copenagle and Jamie Kennel designed their 700-square-foot home in Portland, Ore, that has green roof and is capable of reusing storm water; house, which cost $135,00 to build, including materials and labor, is easy to maintain, freeing up time for intellectual and recreational pursuits. MORE
Jan. 1, 2014
Joel Salatin, one of most famous farmers in America, has lately turned to preaching the gospel of the forest-fed pig; calls for allowing pigs to roam and forage forests, which results in healthier soil, a greater diversity of plants, happier animals and better-tasting meat. MORE
Nov. 12, 2013
TomKat Ranch in Pescadero, Calif, farm that originally began as way to improve soil quality and foster conservation, now produces grass-fed beef under name Leftcoast Grassfed; ranch, owned and run by hedge fund mogul Tom Steyer and his wife Kat Taylor, aims to mimic migratory patterns by rotating cows, birds and pigs on the land to produce better grass. MORE
Nov. 3, 2013
Some New York City developers are utilizing advanced eco-friendly construction technologies that enable them to go beyond certification from the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design, long recognized as city's gold standard in green buildings. MORE
Oct. 31, 2013
Council of Fashion Designers of America gives out several awards to fashion designers who demonstrate a commitment to ecologically responsible design. MORE
Oct. 15, 2013
Mark Bittman Op-Ed column examines the question of why people go hungry in the world even though enough food is produced to feed everyone; contends that if equal resources were put into reducing waste, questioning the value of animal products, reducing overconsumption and actively promoting saner, less energy-consuming alternatives, people of the world could feed themselves in an environmentally sustainable way. MORE
Oct. 9, 2013
Form of construction known as natural building, in which homes are built with natural materials like straw, sand, earth and rock, has attracted followers because of associated savings in building materials and energy. MORE
Sep. 24, 2013
Chicago-based architectural firm Skidmore, Owings & Merrill has developed structural system that uses wood to build tall buildings as an environmentally friendlier alternative to steel and concrete. MORE
Sep. 8, 2013
Many green architectural projects, ranging from a state-of-the-art recycling center in Brooklyn to sustainable rebuilding efforts for places hit by Hurricane Sandy, are emerging in fall 2013. MORE
Aug. 15, 2013
Architect Dennis Wedlick, known for green houses, designed his own with his life partner Curt DeVito more than 25 years ago in Kinderhook, NY; says passive solar houses, which collect and store sun's energy, have become more advanced and less sun-dependent. MORE
Aug. 15, 2013
Passive houses, super-insulated, low-energy homes already popular in Europe, are tentatively taking root in United States; still, comparatively low cost of fuel in United States and expense of building such houses may prevent them from becoming widespread. MORE
Jul. 7, 2013
Claire Martin Prototype column; small freight company B-Line Sustainable Urban Delivery in Portland, Ore, makes its deliveries with electric-assisted tricycles; firm has fleet of six trykes, making up to 150 deliveries daily for more than dozen clients; revenue is projected at more than $400,000 for 2013. MORE
Jun. 30, 2013
Jonah Weiner article profiles Australian-born environmental artist Natalie Jeremijenko, whose fish-monitoring installation Amphibious Architecture will be permanently installed in the East River as part of New York's East River Waterfront Esplanade development project. MORE
Jun. 30, 2013
Manhattan developer Delos will unveil new green-living condominium that is says is first to qualify for its WELL certification, which company hopes will become new gold standard for health and sustainability in real estate; buyers will pay premium for state-of-the-art air filtration, water purification and other health-related amenities. MORE
Jun. 15, 2013
Op-Ed article by biologist Marielle Anzelone argues that urban agriculture movement has lost its way by focusing almost entirely on planting trees and making cities as farm-like as possible; holds this human-centric view, favoring natural food production above all else, ignores important utility of plants and flowers, bees and butterflies, that are essential to our survival. MORE
Jun. 1, 2013
ForestEthics and Greenpeace have filed complaint with Federal Trade Commission claiming that Sustainable Forestry Initiative, organization that certifies products as 'green,' is front group for timber industry and violates agency's new standards for such claims; FTC has been trying to police proliferating claims that products are 'green' or 'environmentally friendly'. MORE
Apr. 3, 2013
Bullitt Center in Seattle is 50,000-square-foot, six-story experiment in sustainability, billed as world's greenest office building; will act as $30 million living laboratory to test latest green initiatives and innovations, including use of recycled rainwater, solar panels and composting toilets. MORE
Mar. 10, 2013
Op-Ed article by Graham Hill, founder of LifeEdited.com and TreeHugger.com, explains his decision to live simply, with few possessions; contends that material objects have tendency to crowd out emotional needs they are meant to support. MORE
Mar. 7, 2013
The New York State comptroller, using his role in a large stock-owning pension fund as leverage, has persuaded Dunkin' Donuts to set a timetable for obtaining all of its palm oil from sustainable sources. MORE
Feb. 3, 2013
Interview with Ron Shiffman, urban planner who has spent decade trying to make New York City's residential neighborhoods more livable and environmentally friendly. MORE
Jan. 3, 2013
Many housing project residents say that New York City Housing Authority encouraged them to 'go green,' but did little to help with efforts to move toward environmental sustainability, and even stood in their way; agency documents show that more than half of the 334 public housing projects in the city do not even have recycling bins. MORE
Oct. 3, 2012
Salina Journal; annual Prairie Festival in Salina, Kan, attracts hundreds of people to hear lectures on subjects like sustainable agriculture and energy sources; art and music also play a role. MORE
Oct. 3, 2012
Op-Ed column by Thomas L Friedman contends that the traditional American dream of a large car and house is not plausible for the rapidly expanding Chinese middle class; holds that the country needs a new dream that marries desire for prosperity with sustainability. MORE
Sep. 11, 2012
Lowville Journal; attendees at the inaugural Lewis County, NY, Homesteading Fair participate in dozens of classes in subjects related to sustainable living; classes, offered by the Cornell University Cooperative Extension, are part of a nationwide celebration of International Homesteading Education Month. MORE
Jul. 27, 2012
Peter E. Kukielski, garden curator at the New York Botanical Garden, is promoting rose varieties that will thrive without chemical intervention; has led a horticultural revolution since arriving at the garden in 2006, reducing use of fungicide by 86 percent, extending the blooming season and increasing awareness about conservation efforts. MORE
Apr. 27, 2012
New York City Council is expected to vote to update zoning regulations to catch up with the Bloomberg administration's environmental image and make it easier for builders to increase structures' energy efficiency and put gardens on rooftops; zoning changes would affect building types as varied as office towers, warehouses and apartment buildings. MORE
Apr. 23, 2012
Lagunitas Journal; David Lee Hoffman, local figure in Marin County, Calif, is facing eviction by the county and several fines related to the Tibetan-inspired compound he has been constructing for over 40 years; Hoffman contends that the compound is a model of sustainable living, but local authorities cite its unusual compost system as a threat to the environment. MORE
Feb. 16, 2012
Jeff Stein, new president of the now-decaying eco-community Arcosanti, seeks to reconcile the original utopian vision held by the founders of the 'urban laboratory' in the Arizona desert in the 1970s with its current financially-strapped reality. MORE
Feb. 2, 2012
Solutions Oriented Living (SOL) Austin is a five-and-a-half acre housing development in Austin, Texas, which features super-efficient homes outfitted with solar panels and geothermal wells that produce all the energy the buildings consume. MORE
Dec. 18, 2011
Ginia Bellafante Big City column describes wedding of Jacqueline Schmidt and David Friedlander at PowerHouse Arena in Brooklyn, at which couple married and then treated guests to proselytizing presentation on their dedication to living with less in the face of global warming. MORE
Dec. 4, 2011
One of the most exacting standards for conservation-minded building techniques is the passive, or zero-energy house, which maintains a comfortable interior climate without active heating or cooling systems; a number of buildings in New York City are being retrofitted as passive houses. MORE
Nov. 22, 2011
Department of Agriculture has begun initiative to promote agroforestry, process of growing native crops under a canopy of trees which is far more sustainable and resistant to climate change than traditional farming. MORE
Nov. 7, 2011
Prof Andrew Ross Op-Ed article contends that if urban policy makers focus only on those who can afford carbon-reducing technologies, sustainability movement is doomed to failure; cites case of Phoenix, Arizona, where 'green' pedigree of wealthy enclave does little to offset carbon production and water waste from the city as a whole. MORE
Oct. 27, 2011
Andrew Sell launches Hipcycle.com, online retail site that offers upcycled housewares, furniture, garden and office supplies. MORE
Oct. 24, 2011
Companies such as Eco-Concierge will shop and schedule appointments for green-minded consumers who do not have time to research which products and services are most earth-friendly. MORE
Oct. 13, 2011
Many eco-conscious consumers are cutting their spending on green products, finding it difficult to justify buying more expensive household items and organic foods in today's bad economy. Tips on making homemade cleaners and chart comparing prices of environmentally friendly and standard household products noted. MORE
Oct. 9, 2011
Memoirist Susan Gregory Thomas Op-Ed article describes how financial necessity forced her to adopt a self-sufficient, do-it-yourself lifestyle; expresses wonder at how simple and rewarding the lifestyle is. MORE
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An innovative and closely watched program is designed to encourage many of the largest industrial plants to keep their energy use in check.
November 27, 2014, Thursday
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November 27, 2014, Thursday
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Taunting the Big Bad Wolf
The house in Maryland was built with abundant varieties of wood but no nails.
November 27, 2014, Thursday
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Just Don't Call It a Lab
In Michigan, a passive house that happens to be a laboratory.
November 27, 2014, Thursday
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A lyrical nature writer explains her optimistic view of the deepening human imprint on the Earth.
November 26, 2014, Wednesday
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Good News on Energy
Reducing greenhouse gas emissions is simply another step in the transition to cleaner energy.
November 24, 2014, Monday
MORE ON SUSTAINABLE LIVING AND: Greenhouse Gas Emissions , Geothermal Power , Electric Light and Power , Environmental Protection Agency , Alternative and Renewable Energy , China , Energy Efficiency , United States , Global Warming , Natural Resources Defense Council , United States Economy , Wind Power , Solar Energy
Building a Community on Polluted Land
A Dutch urban experiment has turned a former industrial area into an office, studio and commercial space that produces its own power and minimizes waste.
November 20, 2014, Thursday
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Organic Farms Become a Winner in Putin's Feud With the West
With often cheaper imports unavailable, some agricultural activists hope to see a boost in local farming, but for consumers the self-imposed sanctions have so far served mostly to raise food prices.
November 19, 2014, Wednesday
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Manhattan's Second-Tier Office Buildings Make Energy Efficiency a Goal
In recent years, several of Manhattan's Class B buildings, typically known for being old and out of the way, have acted to improve their carbon footprints.
November 12, 2014, Wednesday
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A Transformational Festival
Lightning in a Bottle in Bradley, Calif. is one of the larger and more influential of these "transformational festivals."
Patagonia Surfing Wet Suits Go Green
A new kind of bio-rubber could change the way surf companies make wetsuits.
App Smart | Going Green
Kit Eaton reviews three apps that can help you adopt environmentally sensible habits in your daily life.
Can spin-off turn in Li & Fung's favor?
Investors have cheered previously troubled Li & Fung's plans to spin off its global brands business. Breakingviews' Peter Thal Larsen looks at the strategy's potential.
At Home With a Passive Pioneer
The architect Dennis Wedlick designed the home he shares with Curt DeVito 25 years ago.
Pedal-Powered Delivery
A Portland company moves freight using six electric-assisted tricycles and strong riders in lieu of trucks.
Local Stop: Brooklyn Navy Yard
The Brooklyn Navy Yard dates to 1801, and at its peak in World War II, 70,000 people worked there. But it closed in 1966, and today it is a model of eco-friendly adaptive reuse.
More Than Just Green
The Bullitt Center, a new office building in Seattle, goes beyond energy conservation and recycled materials in an effort to be fully sustainable.
An Intellectual Hootenanny
During its annual Prairie Festival outside Salina, Kan., the Land Institute has become a Mecca of sorts for those whose passions run to sustainability, farming and feeding the world.
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