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Haven Wine Bar by Bern's
- Address:
2208 W. Morrison Ave.
Tampa, FL 33606Neighborhood:
- Cuisine:
Contemporary AmericanPrice: $31 to $50
Haven Wine Bar by Bern's
- Dining Style: Fine Dining
- Website: http://www.sideberns.com/
- Phone: (813) 258-2233
- Hours of Operation:
Dinner: Monday - Thursday: 6:00pm - 10:00pm, Friday - Saturday: 6:00pm - 11:00pm, Sunday: Closed
- Payment Options: AMEX,Discover,MasterCard,Visa
- Cuisine: Contemporary American
- Executive Chef: Chad Johnson
- Dress Code: Business Casual
- Accepts Walk-Ins: Yes
- Additional Details: Banquet/Private Rooms, Bar Dining, Bar/Lounge, Beer, Chef's Table, Farm to Table, Full Bar, Happy Hour, Late Night, Non-Smoking Restaurant, Patio/Outdoor Dining, Personal wines welcome, Personal wines welcome (corkage fee applies), Private Room, Wheelchair Access, Wine, Wine Bar
- Catering: For information, please contact Jeffrey Gould, Group Sales and Catering Manager, at 813.865.1488, or firstname.lastname@example.com.
- Private Party Facilities: Savor the luxury of fine dining and excellent service. Let SideBern's create your next flawless event. We offer sophisticated, seasonal dining with four venues to choose from for formal business events or private celebrations.
- Private Party Contact: Jeffrey Gould 8884027923
- Entertainment: House Music, occasional live music for special events
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Haven Wine Bar by Bern's is Bern's Family of Legends' hip, progressive restaurant. Its menu features Executive Chef Chad Johnson's modern cuisine served in a stylish, relaxed fine dining atmosphere. Haven Wine Bar by Bern's offers its guests the ability to taste different flavors and textures created with innovative culinary techniques.Continued
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Haven Wine Bar by Bern's reviews from OpenTable diners
- Something For EveryoneFoodieVIPDined on 6/24/2014I have never had a bad meal or service at SideBern's. We don't live in Tampa but come once a month on business and were glad that we had the opportunity to experience this restaurant on their last night before closing for renovations. It's such a lovely decor, we were surprised so we asked why and when we found out that it was because they needed more space, we were so excited for them. After the renovation, I'm sure they will be even more fabulous and we look forward to returning when completed. We wish them good luck.Special Features:
- Disappointed!foodie2beeVIPDined on 6/23/2014This place is so pretentious. The hostess was snotty. The waitress was snotty and the menu was boring and limited. Nothing what I expected! Not ever going back! Oh and my chicken was part raw. But no one ever checked up on us so I couldn't send it back.
- Nice culinary findGood2gooutDined on 6/21/2014We liked all our dishes from starters to entrees to dessert. Great find.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Interesting menumonthlydinerDined on 6/18/2014Recommended by a foodie friend who really knows local restaurants. Menu choices diverse. I ate vegetarian and enjoyed it. Wasn't very full when I was there so I can't comment on service with a full house, but I had no issues.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Still a favoriteDeanDined on 6/18/2014When we heard that SideBerns was going to be closed for several months for remodeling, my wife and I decided quickly to return. We are glad that we did. The only disappointment of the evening was that it looked like too many people thought they were closed already, because there were far too many empty tables. But our server helped guide us to some new items I had not tried before. We can hardly wait to return.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Great dinnerOpenTable Diner Since 2014Dined on 6/17/2014Went with my family, including two children, as well as with my parents. The food was excellent and the ambience was terrific. We would definitely go back there.Special Features:
- SamNexusDined on 6/16/2014We enjoyed it but the filet pork tasted like processed meat - very disappointing; also, the web site wine did not match the restaurant list
- Sent food backwalkingdinerDined on 6/16/2014Service was amazing and the ambiance was delightful. The food was awful :( A scallop dish was delivered charred to the point that it was actually black. My husband tried a bite and it was so bitter that he couldn't even try another bite. We sent the dish back, only to receive a replacement where we could actually taste the combination of scallops and wild mushrooms. Really bad paring. The wild mushrooms dwarfed the scallops and the sauce was better suited for a nice steak. Just a bad combo.Special Features:
- Okay experiencejoopnightVIPDined on 6/7/2014My wife and I did a 6 course tasting menu (I had the traditional and she had the vegetarian). There were dishes in her courses that stood out, while there were dishes in mine that stood out. Overall, we both felt the traditional menu was better, but there certainly were some high points and some issues. In the traditional menu, the risotto and scallop dishes were excellent, while I didn't care for the rabbit and the lamb was served Rare>Medium-Rare, so I couldn't eat it. The vegetarian menu highlights were the gazpacho and the re-made mushroom dish (after we had to send it back because it was way oversalted). It was a cool experience, but probably wouldn't do this again. The food was extremely rich for the small quantity. Need about 3 hrs.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- a gem in Tampa!foodloverDined on 6/7/2014Great Service, Very Accommodating To Our Schedule. The Sommelier Was So Helpful And Not At All Pushy. Food Was Perfect! Love This Place!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Simply awesome!BarbDined on 6/6/2014We were traveling on business and my colleague knew about the original Berns but we couldn't get a table so we decided to try this newer Berns and sooo glad we did. The wine list is unbelievable and they make the truly expensive wines affordable via a reserve tasting menu. My snapper was the best I have ever eaten and the service could not have been better! Thanx for a wonderful meal, next time I am in Tampa, I will be back!Special Features:
- Great for date nightwineguyDined on 6/6/2014Everything was on point for our visit to Sideberns. I had the filet and the boyfriend had the halibut and both were excellent. The service was efficient without being overbearing and we even were suggested and served wine by their in house sommelier, classy touch. The restaurant is smaller, romantic and intimate, definitely call the babysitter for this one. The only downside some may find would be the price, but then again no one ever goes to mcdonalds and is appalled by the food quality, you get what you pay for. Bottle of wine plus two entrees and tip added up to about $200 for two. Worth it, will be back.Special Features:
- It's Bern's... On the Side!VAC8IONVIPDined on 6/4/2014SideBern's, what a great name! We had heard great things about this place, and so glad we had a chance to go finally. We went with our son, who has an amazing palette, so there were 3 of us. We ended up there on a Wednesday night around 9:30 PM. The atmosphere was beautiful, and classy. The lighting was fantastic, booths very comfortable too. The food and service were outstanding. Forgive me not remembering the name of our server, but he was wonderful. I highly recommend this place. Not anything like it's sister restaurant, Bern's Steakhouse, it definitely has it's very own unique identity. The chef is very talented. Wonderful experience.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- OpenTable Diner Since 2006Dined on 5/31/2014outstanding overall good and imaginative preparation and food great selection of wine and high end liquorSpecial Features:
- All Great but the DessertTINODined on 5/30/2014We experienced excellent service from Heather--the appetizers and entrees were on spot and perfectly prepared. The scallop dishes and the sides were done well and nicely presented---the polenta was the best I have had---on the other hand,the bread pudding dessert was ordinary and inadequate and over priced--not tasteful at all --an awful ending to an otherwise excellent meal---Special Features:
- Good not greatSuperchief1944Dined on 5/24/2014Some years ago, SideBerns had great food: on a recent visit, good food but not great. Atmosphere is better: darker, quieter, not quite the "hot spot" it was. Staff was excellent: professional, nice, well informed. The menu is interesting: sweetbreads, Mer de Loup fish, interesting ravioli. Our food rating reflects that the food was "missing something". We both had "Halibut Oscar" which, while well prepared, seemed uninteresting - just not a flavor "pop". It was served "stacked", a maddening presentation, that requires taking the dish apart to eat it: rough-smashed potatoes on the bottom (excellent), very good asparagus in the middle, then halibut, then crab meat. Sweetbreads appetizer was disappointing: more like fried oysters.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- 2fromquebecDined on 5/21/2014I was vacationning from Montreal and found an article in USA Today which listed Sideberns in top 10 foodies list in Tampa We had a truly great meal with the 6 service tasting menuSpecial Features:
- My GoTo Restaurant in TamparussellVIPDined on 5/21/2014Sideberns remains my favorite restaurant in Tampa. The food is always interesting and tastes amazing. The wine selection is exceptional with many wines by the glass. This time I took some young folks (20 something) to broaden their food interests and they came away impressed. This time we had a lamb tartare, wow! and a rabbit ravioli (nice) and my entre was a loup (fish) with some fried crab. Excellent. While it is a bit pricey for some, Sideberns is worth every cent you pay for the freshest ingredients, served well in a warm inviting atmosphere in a great part of town. Go here next time you want to impress your friends or enjoy time with that special someone.Special Features:
- Understated EleganceYummyDined on 5/16/2014The entrees had a combination of subtle, complimentary flavors that provided a symphony of tastiness. The dessert had the same. Can't wait to go back when I'm in Tampa.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Great but ExpensiveOpenTable Diner Since 2012Dined on 5/16/2014Excellent food and service, especially since they reserve you a booth at the dessert room. However, this isn't a cheap night. For the two of us we spent about $225 at Berns (included about 5 drink).Special Features:
- Enjoy and joinPeruviantest1Dined on 5/16/2014I enjoy eating at Side Bern's because have different menu choices, fresh,natural and very tasty . Also have the opportunity for people that can't eat meat to enjoy and join the party; no many places in the area with that concept.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- First timejduffyDined on 5/9/2014My boyfriend and I love Bern's so we wanted to try Sideburn's too. The restaurant is smaller than we thought but beautiful inside. We had reservations and were seated right away. The server was extremely nice and helpful but a little slow. We were drinkless a few times. Other than that the food, drinks and atmosphere were amazing. We both had the filet which was perfectly cooked and it came with a side of poblano potatoes and they might have been the best thing I've ever eaten! I also love that they do a seasonal menu and try to run sustainably. It's pretty expensive for us to eat there regularly but we would definitely come back.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- excellent!ejscoop6Dined on 4/22/2014I went there for my birthday & we had a great dinner. I had the duck breast which was tasty & lean and had a delicious polenta. The way they plated the food truly added to the dining experience. The service in particular was great as it seemed the waiter really actually liked coming to work.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Still amazing food & drinkkleetampaDined on 4/16/2014This was my first visit back to Sidebern's in over a year. The menu changes seasonally, so there are always plenty of tempting new dishes. We were celebrating my friend's birthday, and they added a candle to her dessert! We shared a horseradish crusted scallops appetizer. Two huge sea scallops, with wonderful coating and a great sauce. She had the filet, which came with some amazing poblano whipped potatoes. I had halibut, which was topped gently with a wonderful creamy sauce and hints of ginger and mustard seed. It came with a wonderful side of vegetables served over a carrot puree. For dessert, the peanut butter ice cream was amazing. My dessert was Crepe Mille Fuille green apple, ginger meringue, pernod ice cream. Very tasty!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- celebration eveningcelebrationDined on 4/12/2014Celebrated husband's Birthday. good cocktails, excellent 1/2 bottle of Pride Merlot. Food for both was delicious and appealing presentation. Service was excellent. Not overbearing, but checked periodically to insure all was as expected. Explained menu items very well as well as made recommendations. Delightful evening!Special Features:
- A Great DisappointmentFLtravellersDined on 4/12/2014We chose this restaurant because of its reputation. The waiter wasn't attentive. 't started out with the wrong wine order. We had a reservation at 6:45pm and we ended up leaving the restaurant at 9:00pm. We ordered a hot starter and the entrée. It took 30-40 minutes in between our courses. The hot starter wasn't very hot No one came by our table to explain why were were waiting so long. No one apologized. We had no interest in ordering dessert because we thought it might take another 30-40 minutes. We chose not to make an issue of it because it was already a disappointment and we didn't want my birthday spoiled by a conversation with the manager. Sorry but we couldn't recommend this restaurant.
- Had a great time!eniderDined on 4/5/2014The staff made my husband and myself feel very comfortable. Our waiter, Christopher, was very friendly but yet professional. It was a great dining experience. The food was sometime different but appetizing.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- From the minute we walkedHarrisDined on 4/4/2014From the minute we walked in to Side Berns, we were not disappointed. The service was as good as it gets and food wasperfect. We will certainly talk about our dinner until the next time we enjoy this fine restaurant. Harris H McIlwain, MDSpecial Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Another perfect experience!otterladyVIPDined on 4/3/2014The food was so delicious, we ate here two nights in a row! Fantastic vegetarian menu! Can't wait to return to Tampa just to be able to eat here again!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- FANTASTIC!!!!!otterladyVIPDined on 4/2/2014What a fantastic restaurant! Best vegetarian menu ever! Cheese selection was wonderful too. Even the Mojito was fabulous! Ginger, our server, was perfect! We loved it so much, we made a reservation for the next night and asked for Ginger. Outside dining area was lovely and music was perfect! We will definitely be back on our next visit to Tampa! LOVED IT!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Excellent Service and WineFraniBDined on 3/29/2014We went to SideBerns for the first time on March 29,2014. We have been to the original Bern's many times and although the steak and desserts were excellent, the stuffiness was such a turn off so we were curious about SideBern's. From the minute we walked in, we knew this was such a different atmosphere, in a good way! The wine list is extensive and the food was great. I feel you get the high quality wine and meat choices similar to the original Bern's but without the stuffiness and formalities. We will definitely be dining at SideBern's again.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- PhenomenalOpenTable Diner Since 2014Dined on 3/28/2014This was the most fantastic meal I've ever had. The cheese was delicious along with the vegetarian menu.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Great food, wine and service!HappydinerVIPDined on 3/22/2014As we walked up to the entrance, we admired the charming covered portico and the lovely Spanish guitar music playing. Once we opened the door to the restaurant, the NOISE hit us! We asked if we could be seated outside and were led to a great four-top and the beginning of a great dinner and great conversation. We chose the tasting menus, and my husband was able to substitute a couple of the options off the vegetarian tasting menu, since he doesn't eat red meat. These two vegetarian dishes were the only weak link, as they were just not that interesting. All the other dishes, and the excellent wine selection, made us excited to return for more! Our server was wonderful, the sommelier was very knowledgable, and the rest if the staff was great!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Not returningTjg1Dined on 3/22/2014Disappointed with every dish. Salad (beet) was too small and lacked any greens. Main course (pork chop) lacked any flavor and desert (cheese cake) was in pieces and also lacked any flavor., sent it back. Entire meal except wine was disappointing. Noise level was very noise where it was difficult to hold a conversation. Have eaten before chef change and always enjoyed. New menu was disappointing and expensive. Overall not a pleasant experience..Not recommended.Special Features:
- Splendid!RussVIPDined on 3/22/2014Our second visit to Sidebern's did not disappoint. We began at the bar, which during happy hour provides a nice assortment of nicely priced cocktails, wine and small plates. Moving on to dinner, every entrée for our party of 4 was beautifully prepared and presented. The menu is creative, with a decent selection of wines by the glass and a deep, but expensive, wine cellar. The restaurant has nice, low lighting that contributes to an simple yet elegant atmosphere. My only suggestion would be to provide more spacing for the tables. I kept bumping into a chair at an adjoining table, and the noise level could be difficult to talk over from time to time. Otherwise, dine early to avoid this issue.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Service could have been better.meenVIPDined on 3/17/2014Service could have been better. Things werent timed very well and the waitress was not particularly attentive, given the quality of the restaurant. The food was excellent.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- ExperienceRoxyDined on 3/15/2014Four of us dined with you and all but one meal was outstanding. The elk was very tough, fish dishes were outstanding. Wine list incredible.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Great Service and Ambiance; OK foodFoodmanDined on 3/15/2014On the positive side, the ambiance and service was excellent. Our server was attentive but not intrusive. The food, however, was good, but not great. Given the prices, I would expect better. My wife and I both thought the food was bland. We have eaten here before and really enjoyed the food and the interesting selection of mixed drinks. We considered it one of our top restaurant picks until this dinner. Perhaps they had a off night with the food.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- We had 4 people in our party,KcjzDined on 3/15/2014We had 4 people in our party, One of the two appetizers were good, no one cared for their entrees, they no flavor, the chef must have had a bad night, we would never go there again. Very disappointing, we had a good meal there a few years ago, and that is why we booked, never again!
- Can't say enough good thingsthejamesDined on 3/10/2014Everything was spectacular, there was nothing that I could really say was a low point in our experience here.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.


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Wow, I'd also love to see answers for some of these.
Hello again, everyone. It's me, your favorite healer turned tank, here to bother you again!
So, I'm curious about caps/diminishing returns. I recently posted an armory link where I was informed to not gem for parry and continue gemming for dodge. So, hence, my first question...
What percentage of dodge do I need to be at for a warrior tank? I'm a little over 20% (20.2ish, I believe) in dodge.
Now, onto my next question...
Can someone give me a clear definition of diminishing returns?
Next question...
Expertise. How much of it should I have, and after I put Titanweave on my cloak, I will be sitting roughly at 544 defense. Where can I put any expertise enchants without hurting my overall defense?
Next question...
The mighty hit cap. Where should a main tank be, roughly?
And my last nubish question for the day....
What's the most efficient way to be a durable main tank without suffering blows to defense and stam? My warrior is sitting at 25.5k unbuffed HP, so I fear that taking hits on my stam would only hurt me.
So, that's it...thanks for reading, and thanks for any input! You guys are all the best!
All the best, K
Wow, I'd also love to see answers for some of these.
Playing a warrior tank well is its own reward.
(search is your friend)
As for "how much should I have" - nothing in the current content warrants stacking of avoidance in any way, so whatever you have is plenty. The Valor Medal trinket is a waste of badges. I'd rather gem for expertise/stam than dodge/stam.
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Thank you for the links, I've found them helpful. However, outside of having to know calculus, how would one describe diminishing returns? :P
***EDIT: I'm saying, make it easier to understand for the non-number crunchers. I'm not trying to be rude or anything.
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i don't gem for either - my red slots get expertise/stam gems.I was informed to not gem for parry and continue gemming for dodge.
however, i don't agree that you should ignore avoidance. patchwerk is a fight where avoidance is going to help your healers a ton - especially if your guild is still gearing up.
Diminishing returns - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Well, there isn't a precise way out of sorting out the amounts(and no the necessary calculations are not college-degree level high school teaches it).
On average, you don't really want parry over dodge at all. Parry trumps dodge once you have about 500 or so more dodge rating than parry rating, and that's only at a very low parry rating(0-100). Parry DR and baseline price are just too expensive to bother with more than "oh, there's some. Not bad.".
My recommendation is that you just keep the parry pieces as extra pieces, and equip them with any upgrade to see if it's really an upgrade.
Read it to the end, don't let your eyes glaze over when you see numbers... here I'll help with an easy one:- Optimal balance of defense:dodge is somewhere between 3:2 and 2:1
Edit: PS: every question you asked is answered in those guides and no.. you don't need to do any math... just read.
Last edited by Bogota; 02-02-2009 at 06:33 AM. Reason: clarification
diminishing returns made easy.
You have 0 stat
you get 100 of stat and gain 10 rating.
You now have 100 stat and 10 rating
You get 100 more of stat, but only gain 8 rating
you now have 200 stat and 18 rating
You get 100 more of stat, but only gain 6 rating.
You now have 300 stat and 24 rating
and so on and so on.
I think he meant more along the lines of...
Which basically means, always dodge...
For expertise you would like 26 expertise skill so that you can reach the dodge cap (boss can't dodge your attacks) it also takes a chunk out of their ability to parry you.
Hit I would not worry too much about, but would stay above 100 if you could.
As for where to get it I used the glove slot(mainly....,) the fury gloves are ideal for threat gen as a tank, they have high stam (more than prot ones) high str, high expertise and high hit. You can enchant them for 20 hit, 15 expertise, threat or even stam if you feel your low. However to do this you will want to pick up a defense trinket.
The best way to be a durable tank is get upgrades. (simple I know right?)
For example I'd aim for the trinket out of HoL (Seal of the Pantheon - Item - World of Warcraft) and the one out of heroic AN (Essence of Gossamer - Item - World of Warcraft)
I think the OP is just confused by linking a thread full of math, which many would be. The simple answer is that diminishing returns don't really have an effect on your playing, they are only there to keep people from stacking dodge, for example, to get to 100% avoidance. Basically 10 dodge rating will always increase your ability to dodge by the same amount.
If you're interested in a more detailed answer you'll actually need to pour over some math because it's alot more complicated than just that. However, the answer I gave should be enough for most people.
edit(for example, you have 0% dodge and get 1% dodge, you are now dodging 1% more attacks. You have 90% dodge and get 1% dodge, you are now dodging 10% more attacks. Diminishing Returns just keeps it so that dodge rating is always worth the same amount of relative dodge no matter what you're at.)
Last edited by Satrina; 02-02-2009 at 09:04 AM.
(whups, didn't mean to edit astemus' post O.o)
Except that it doesn't. The returns (derivative returns, that is) aren't linear for avoidance as they are for armour.Diminishing Returns just keeps it so that dodge rating is always worth the same amount of relative dodge no matter what you're at.
This is the style of answer I meant. There was no half mockery involved with this. But sure, next time I'll just type "diminishing returns" into google instead, because clearly it's almost code to be halfway rude when someone asks a halfway nubish question. I apologize if my understanding of tanking isn't up to standard; that's why I'm on TS in the first place.
But, regardless of my half-frustration at some of the responses sounding mildly elitist and rude, I do appreciate them. Sometimes, it's the only way to learn, as much as I hate to admit it.
***EDIT: I'm sorry if I sound overly frustrated. I work a high stress job; WoW is my downtime. I really do appreciate the responses, and I know no one means to be rude or mock. I ask nubish questions because when it comes to tanking, I'm exactly that. I'm still learning. With my priest, I never had to worry about this much number crunching. I'm trying to be one of the better tanks out there, and I know TS is the best way to separate me from the rest. So again, I apologize, and the only reason I didn't remove my original response is because I felt that having a random apology would confuse people. I overreacted a little, and again, I apologize for that.
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Last edited by Krazen; 02-02-2009 at 10:38 AM.
People who won't search irritate me and it comes out sometimes. By the same token, I could be less brief in what I respond with.
I will note that the definition of diminishng returns is in the http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f63/4...ns-armour.html, and it includes that sort of simple step-by-step "here's how it works" illustration - which is precisely why I linked it as part of the set initially. Ah well, all this has inspired me to rework http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f63/4...avoidance.html a bit to also include a definition,
Last edited by Satrina; 02-02-2009 at 10:56 AM.
I understand, Satrina. I looked around a bit for Diminishing Returns, but I just decided that it would be far easier to ask questions that I hadn't seen asked. That way, I know that I asked the question instead of reading stuff that I wouldn't understand very well.


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-0.55 - (Health: 68644 (100%)) Shambling Horror Melee Vincienzo Hit -156306 (Physical)
Can someone offer an explaination for this... At the time when I was hit, I was at 74.95% physical armour reduction.
Up until now the largest hit I've received from an enraged horror was 80k...
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I'm Guessing the Plague (is this physical) wasnt dispelled from you or a enraged shockwave got you
no it was definitely from the horror.. so i guess the question is can/does enrage + frenzy stack?
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Yeah just been playing around with trinkets.. stacking armour for easier p1.. working on transition atm.. btw grats on 10 LK hm!
its for sure enrage + frenzy.
Our tank got that shit and was out of CDs for him and he took 108k.
Pray for ur plague to jump on the right moment or that u have a CD rotation ready for this.
does anyone know of an addon that can track stacks of plague/how much damage they will do --> predict enrages?
playing from New Zealand I have ~ 300-400ms.. sometimes i just get gibbed without having time to react..
I use auracle. http://www.wowace.com/addons/auracle/files/8517-1-2-1/
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Can someone tell me what causes the Shambling Horrors to gain the Frenzy buff? Is it on a timer or something?
This is a clear case of enrage combined with frenzy.
The enrage must be dispelled, and as fast as possible. Basically, if the horror manages to get a swing off while enraged, the dispeller failed.
The low health frenzy is much more dangerous. Cooldowns are barely enough to keep you alive, and you run the risk of having two horrors at that time. During our 25man heroic tries, I discovered two ways of dealing with it.
The first is getting all the ghouls you can get, and as soon as possible. This tactic causes the disease to stack high enough to probably leapfrog frenzy range. Note, I said probably. It's not a guarantee, and that brings us to the second method.
Stun the horror as soon as he drops under 20%. The disease will tick again within five seconds (and that should kill the horror), so most single-target stuns work, and even a 3 second stun could be enough to save you.
Those two tactics leave one scenario to deal with, and that's a horror that goes under 20% with the last tick of the disease. What you should do here is string cooldowns together (save them for this!), and let your raid know that you need help on cooldowns and heavy healing. Those things combined may save you.
I haven't yet found a guaranteed tactic to survive the horrors all the time - sometimes you have bad luck and they kill you.
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Ok this is a simple thread. How many of you think that Kakashi is going to die and how many don't think that.
Personaly I don't think that he will die
well, im hopeless at hoping. -_-
so i would hope for the worst so the opposite will happen.
HAHAHA - That is something like Tsunade's gambling. Just remember that didn't worked for Jyraia. :D
I hope that he's not going die..
Maybe guy wil save him or something, and a slug heal him.
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i don't wut him to die but maybe he will die [_]
I think he is going to die
Maybe at 2009
Originally Posted by Sasuke
HAHAHA - That is something like Tsunade's gambling. Just remember that didn't worked for Jyraia. :D
yeah, i kno rite?
but i would still hope for mah hope to fail.
err.... hope that mah hope would not fail so the opposite will happen.
he's not gonna die end of.
I vote on a slug healing his way out of there. Kakashi is a big fan of hospital food.
you do not knowe that the slug heal well make it to him in time.
Originally Posted by Sasuke
HAHAHA - That is something like Tsunade's gambling. Just remember that didn't worked for Jyraia. :D
HAhah thats right huh?!
Either way he can't die that would like make alot of people mad so like i bet they will keep him around for like a few more episodes, just go somewhere else and show a diff fight as to ease the pain of kakashi
Unfortunately, this is curtains for Kakashi.
It really sucks, first Itachi, then Jiraiya, and now Kakashi.
All my favorite characters are being killed off, how depressing.
lol mabye
and mabye the will do a quick flash back
or mabye
kakashi is in DENIAL
who knws
all i know is that ia m pissed that i have 2 wait 2
freaking weeks
Originally Posted by SAKumono26
lol mabye
and mabye the will do a quick flash back
or mabye
kakashi is in DENIAL
who knws
all i know is that ia m pissed that i have 2 wait 2
freaking weeks
i know 2 weeks bites but we will hav2 wait and see..... and kakashi Good by we will miss you!
idont think he will die
the only reason I can think of for his death is so that naaruto could becaome hokage ie tsunade said that kakashi would becaime hokage if she died
That may be so but that doesn't have to be. One hokage doesn't have to die for other to take over. Remember Sarutobi was still alive when Yondaime became hokage.
His part is over, he has nothing more to teach Naruto, plus Naruto has already surpassed him.
The Slug Will Find Kakashi in the Nick Of time,
Naruto will get Bored and tell Fukusaku to transport him back to konoha.. ANd The story will progreess from there...
Kakashi cant die just yet. there is still so much we dont know about him
i dont want him to die
but he might...theres always that possibility
not gonna die i say..
Ether way, we will have to wait and see what will happen after this damn week or more.
Let's look at this from a poetical standpoint:
Kakashi knowingly and willingly sacrificing his life to save someone of his village is a very poetic, awesome way to die. It goes along with the whole "I will protect everyone no matter what" theme.
Now, let's look at this from a legistical, factual standpoint:
Kakashi's battle with Pein has been... 3 or 4 chapters. The 3rd's battle with Oro was much longer. Jiraiya's battle with Pein was much longer as well. Now, I understand Jiraiya and the 3rd are both much more powerful than Kakashi, but Kakashi's a main character. Possibly more of a main character than Jiraiya and the 3rd. It just doesn't make sense for him to die so quickly and easily.
Let's combine the two stands:
Kakashi should eventually die in this way. However, it should be after a much longer, hard-fought battle. He should die protecting someone, but definitely not this quickly, and definitely not Choji.
I could see Kakashi dying here, but that would be a major, major, major mistake from all standpoints, and I would be very disappointed in Kishi.
Hmm, i never thought that jiraya would die and we know what happend !
I know kakashi is a maincharacter but i think jiraya was more important for the "current" storyline i mean the whole minato naruto child of prophecy stuff! So i think kakashi's gonna die even if he is an maincharacter and importen for the story.
That would be "kishi style" haha
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Lambert: Summer's Last Will and Testament, The Rio Grande & Aubade héroïque
CDH55388 Helios (Hyperion's budget label)
Movement 1: Intrata
Movement 2: Madrigal con ritornelli Fair Summer droops, droop men and beasts therefore
Leeds Festival Chorus, Opera North Chorus, English Northern Philharmonia, David Lloyd-Jones (conductor)
Movement 3: Coranto Spring, the sweet Spring, is the year's pleasant king
Leeds Festival Chorus, Opera North Chorus, English Northern Philharmonia, David Lloyd-Jones (conductor)
Movement 4: Brawles Trip and go, heave and ho!
Leeds Festival Chorus, Opera North Chorus, English Northern Philharmonia, David Lloyd-Jones (conductor)
Movement 5: Madrigal con ritornelli Autumn hath all the Summer's fruitful treasure
Leeds Festival Chorus, Opera North Chorus, English Northern Philharmonia, David Lloyd-Jones (conductor)
Movement 6: Rondo burlesca (King Pest)
Movement 7: Saraband Adieu, farewell earth's bliss!
William Shimell (baritone), Leeds Festival Chorus, Opera North Chorus, English Northern Philharmonia, David Lloyd-Jones (conductor)
'London doth mourn, Lambert is quite forlorn,
Trades cry, Woe worth, that ever they were born …'
Actually Nashe wrote 'Lambeth', not 'Lambert', but 'Lambert'—Constant Lambert—would have been quite capable of misquoting it accidentally-on-purpose. In the case of Summer's Last Will and Testament—perhaps his masterpiece, certainly 'one of the undiscovered treasures of the English choral repertoire' (Malcolm Arnold)—Lambert had plenty to be forlorn about, not least the indifferent circumstances of its first performance, which effectively consigned it to oblivion for many years. The date of the premiere was 29 January 1936. Six days beforehand King George V had died (did the concert still begin, as the printed programme suggests, with 'God save the King'?) and the public mood was unreceptive to concert-going in general, let alone to appreciating a work of such unrelieved melancholy and gloom as Summer's Last Will and Testament. (It may also have been badly sung; the chorus's part is very difficult.) From an objective point of view, of course, the timing was perfect, since the work's subject is death and the precariousness of life in Elizabethan London, with its ever-present danger of plague.
Intimations of mortality, in fact, besiege Summer's Last Will and Testament on all sides. Its author, the Elizabethan polemicist, poet and dramatist Thomas Nashe (whose Unfortunate Traveller is the earliest picaresque novel in English) was only in his early thirties when he died in 1601. Its composer, Lambert, fared a little better—he reached the ripe old age of forty-six when he died in 1951—but he was only twenty-seven when he began the piece in the summer of 1932, and thirty when he finished it in the winter of 1935. 'Youth's singing season'? Age, however crabbed, could scarcely sing more poignantly of waste and loss. What specifically motivated Lambert was the death in 1930, by his own hand, of one of his closest friends, the composer and scholar Philip Heseltine/Peter Warlock. It was Heseltine who introduced Lambert to the world of Elizabethan music and letters which vitally determines the character of Summer's Last Will. But Heseltine was also a deeply disturbed character whose influence on younger men was as much destructive as creative. Lambert's biographer Richard Shead accuses him of turning virtually an entire generation of English composers into alcoholics. Certainly Lambert was one of those in thrall to him and was devastated by his death. The Concerto for Piano and Nine Instruments is dedicated to Heseltine's memory, and in the 'Rondo burlesca (King Pest)' of Summer's Last Will there is a direct musical reference to an incident recounted in Cecil Gray's biography of Heseltine:
One evening in particular I remember vividly … when Peter gave an impromptu performance of a little-known sea shanty in the collection of Sir Richard Terry, entitled 'Walk him along, Johnny', which he said he wished to be performed at his funeral. Caparisoned in his African witch doctor's robe and a huge soft black hat, he intoned the choral lines in a hoarse whisper, hopping and capering grotesquely like a vulture, in a kind of danse macabre, imbuing the artless little ditty with a nameless sense of dread and horror, and seeming almost to gloat over the thought of his own imminent decease. On a certain dark and gloomy December day only a few years later, in the old cemetery in Godalming, I was to recall involuntarily this strange performance, and in my mind's eye seemed to see him leaping around his own coffin, croaking sardonically 'Walk him along, Johnny, carry him along; carry him off to the burying ground'.
The phrase 'carry him off to the burying ground' is quoted at the climax of 'King Pest', hammered out by the full orchestra in brutal fortissimo unison. Note Gray's reference to a danse macabre, a dance of death, for that is precisely what this movement is. As such it looks back not only to Liszt—adored by Lambert at a time when he (Liszt) was scarcely taken seriously as a composer—but also to the witches' sabbath in Berlioz's Symphonie fantastique. The term 'rondo' is slightly ambiguous: it undoubtedly does mean here, as it usually does, a movement with regularly recurring themes; but it also bears connotations of the round-dance, the type of heavy-footed country dance immortalized by Berlioz in his 'Ronde du Sabbat'. Lambert does not feature the 'Dies irae' in toto as does Berlioz, but there are fleeting allusions to its melodic outline. (There is more to be said on the horrors and terrors of the 'Rondo burlesca': see below.)
Michael Ayrton—distinguished painter, close friend of Lambert's and editor of Nashe's Unfortunate Traveller, recalls 'Constant felt such sympathy for Tom Nashe that this long-dead Elizabethan practically joined the company of Constant, Cecil Gray, Dylan Thomas and myself when we went drinking round the town'. The 'pleasant comedy' Summer's Last Will and Testament was almost certainly written for and performed in Archbishop Whitgift's household at Croydon in 1592. 'In it,' observes J B Steane, 'the poet in [Nashe] called out, as it never did elsewhere'. The title punningly refers to Will Summers (d1560), jester at the court of Henry VIII. Lambert calls his setting a 'masque' which is what Nashe's 'pleasant comedy' was—a sequence of vocal and instrumental music, dancing and spectacle. Lambert's is not a stage work, there's no 'spectacle', but in setting Nashe's lyrics he does draw heavily on Elizabethan vocal, instrumental and dance idioms, all refashioned in contemporary style; the musician who had shown him how to do this was, of course, Warlock.
The work falls into two main sections. The first begins with an orchestral 'Intrata' consisting of two dances ('Pastorale' and 'Siciliana') heavy already with the spirit of 'Nymphs and shepherds, dance no more'. The chorus laments the imminent end of good times, and invokes the prime of the year in two Bacchanalian dances ('Corante' and 'Brawles') which remind us of Lambert's passionate advocacy of both ballet and booze. A huge climax builds, the voices ecstatically dispensing with words, as they do in Delius's Song of the High Hills. This is the turning point, the great noontide, the blaze of high summer. Now
… the bright day is done,
And we are for the dark.
Part II: the chorus dissonantly deplores the approach of autumn and the 'want of term' (i.e. law-term, necessarily held elsewhere than at London owing to the plague). There follows the orchestral scherzo (with two trios), 'King Pest', based on a grisly short story by Edgar Allen Poe in which two sailors carouse through the waterfront pubs of fourteenth-century London. Unwittingly they cross a barrier that cordons off the plague-ridden area of the city and there, in an undertaker's establishment, encounter the murderous King Pest and his royal family drinking wine from human skulls (a kind of nightmare version of Lewis Carroll?). Ayrton recalls how, years after Summer's Last Will had first been performed, blitz and blackout gave this movement a macabre topical significance. There are also curious affinities with the young Benjamin Britten's song-cycle with orchestra Our Hunting Fathers. Not only is the latter's first movement, 'Rats away,' an exorcism—a prayer for the world to be rid of the bringers of pestilence—but the third movement, 'Hawking for the partridge', is main-titled 'Dance of Death' and is a setting of Nashe's near-contemporary Ravenscroft (c1592–1635). This was in 1936, the year after Summer's Last Will.
Lambert certainly thought that in Poe, pubs and pestilence made excellent bedfellows: 'Just like life', he said. Just like life, too, the machinery in the end runs down, stutters and fails, and leads directly into the monumental final valediction, 'Adieu, farewell earth's bliss!'. The slow three-in-a-bar of the 'Saraband' has a kind of grave, open-ended inevitability, inexorability, which surpasses even that of a funeral march. Two harps enter for the first time, tolling the bells: icy snatched chords up high, sonorous octaves in the bass deep down below. The baritone solo also is heard for the first and only time, leading chorus and orchestra to their bitter nemesis. His opening phrase derives from the 'blues' movement of Lambert's Piano Sonata; but even more striking is the strings' quoting of 'They dance no sarabande' (from The Rio Grande: the line as it is set at the climax of the slow central section) just after the basses' first muttered incantation 'Lord, have mercy on us!'. At the end, violins limn a bleak horizon, a cold grey sky, and gradually dissolve into nothingness—i.e. die—around a sustained high A: the same note with which the work began. As in Carmina Burana, Fortune's wheel has turned full circle.
We do not know how, where or exactly when Nashe died, but it is more than likely he was carried off by the very plague whose ravages he deplores in Summer's Last Will and Testament and which was particularly rife in the London of the 1590s. Today, four hundred years later, we are faced with another type of plague. Lambert would have been the first to relish the magnificent contemporary double entendre of
Brightness falls from the air
Queens have died young and fair.
Black humour at its blackest. For some it will be impossible to listen to Summer's Last Will in the 1990s without hearing it as a requiem for the AIDS generation. It sometimes does happen that works of art appear at the 'wrong' time, and the passage of a few years suddenly imbues them with extraordinary contemporary rightness or relevance. Summer's Last Will belongs to the heyday of the English choral renaissance, when marvellous choral works—not only by mega-stars like Vaughan Williams and Walton—came raining down thick and fast. Today we have no such embarras de richesses; and if Summer's Last Will and Testament has somehow slipped through the net, now surely is the time to pick it up.
from notes by Christopher Palmer © 1992


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