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Jets-Chargers: 1st-Half TweetsPosted by on December 23, 2012 – 2:40 pm
Here are today's first-half tweets for the Jets-Chargers game at MetLife Stadium, in case you missed them on Twitter. Follow Bob Wischusen, Eric Allen and me for our tweets during each Jets game on https://twitter.com/nyjets.
#RL Jets gameday captains today: Antonio Cromartie, Greg McElroy, Garrett McIntyre, Robert Malone, Antonio Allen.
#RL Chargers win opening coin toss, will defer their choice to 2nd half. Jets are 4-0 this yr in games in which opps win toss and defer.
#RL Micheal Spurlock 63-yd punt return for SD touchdown 1:59 into game. First opponent PR TD since Phillip Buchanon @ OAK in 2003.
#RL Greg McElroy screen to Shonn Greene for 30-yd reception. Longest reception by a RB this season.
#RL Jeremy Kerley to Clyde Gates out of Wildcat for 42-yd completion to SD-11. Kerley now 2-for-2 for 83 yds passing in his career.
#EA That was Shonn Greene's 2nd longest catch of his career. He had a 36-yarder against KC last Dec. 11.
#EA Greene sets a career-high with his 7th rushing TD.
#RL Shonn Greene goes over from 1 yd out for TD to tie score at 7-7. Greene's 7th TD of the season.
#EA 5 of Shonn Greene's 7 Rush TDs in 2012 have come at MetLife Stadium. He is closing in on 1,000 for the year.
#RL Jets score 1st first-half offensive TD in 5 games, 2nd first-half offensive TD in last 48 drives, 8 games.
#RL Jets KO cover team, which came into weekend 2nd in NFL in most inside-20 kickoffs, get No. 24 as Micheal Spurlock is tackled at 19.
#EA Greene has another TD – that is No. 8 on the season. 2 Trips to the Red Zone – 2 TDs.
#RL Greene from 1 yd out again, Jets lead 14-7. First time Jets are in double digits in 1st qtr since 10 pts vs JAX in 2009 Game 9…
#RL … first time Jets have had 2 1st-qtr TDs since 2009 Game 7 @ OAK, first time 2 1st-qtr TDs at home since 2009 Game 3 vs TEN.
#EA In 2012, Jets have had 44 Trips Inside the Red Zone and scored 23 TDs. That is a 52% TD% now after Greene's 2 scores in the 1st.
#RL Quinton Coples sacks Wildcat QB Ronnie Brown at SD-2 for his 5th sack of season, taking the Jets' team lead.
#EA In the previous 7 first halves combined, the Jets had 16 offensive points. They have 14 late in the 1st vs. San Diego.
#RL Jets have 14-7 lead at the end of 1st qtr, largest 1st-qtr lead since Game 1, when they led BUF 7-0.
#RL After timeout, Nick Novak comes out for 51-yd FG, which he hits. Equals his longest FG this season, is longest by Jets opp this season.
#EA Greene: 8-20. Needs 29 Yards to Reach 1,000.
#EA Jets 3rd Down D Dominance Continues. SD 0-for-5 in 1st Half.
#RL Jets face 3rd-and-9 at their 25 at 2-minute warning for 1st half. They're 1-for-4 so far in converting 3rd downs.
#RL Greg McElroy to TE Hayden Smith for his first pro reception, 16 yds on third-and-9 for first down.
#EA Wow the Jets get the big Australian going on the throwback screen for Hayden Smith! His 1st career catch.
#RL Jets go into locker room with 14-10 lead, their first halftime lead in 5 games or since 13-7 at St. Louis.
#RL Besides lead on scoreboard, Jets also hold edges in 1st downs (10-5), yards (142-76), possession (17:24-12:36). No turnovers in half.
Tags: Braylon Edwards, Greg McElroy, Hayden Smith, Micheal Spurlock, Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers, Shonn Greene
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By jake on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
punt on a 4th and 2 inches after your D got gashed on the previous drive. Ground and pound, you're a joke Rex. Woody needs to ground and pound his butt out the front door after this game. Mike Pettine needs to be the HC
By 40 year fan , John on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Firings are imminent …
By 40 year fan , John on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Randy , I have never seen Jets stadium so empty …Only crickets out there …Wow . Have we set a new record for poor attendance ?…. ITS UGLY IN JETSVILLE…
By scjoe on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Well, no better, no worse! It was exactly as I expected, heavy dose of the ground and punt, and "try" to manage the game. It didn't work. Then again, what has this year? My observations? 1-The O line needs more help then I origanally anticipated. 2-Eric Smith and Kyle Wilson can not cover anyone with 2 legs. 3-McIntyre is a keeper. 4- Tannenbaum, Sparano, Sanchez, Greene, Wilson, E. Smith, Scott, Pace, Thomas, Tebow, Ducasse,and J Smith are not.
By Joe on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
REGARDING MCELROY for WEEKS I HAVE POSTED PLAYING HIM IS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME .Mcelroy DOESNT HAVE THE ARM STRENGHT TO MAKE ALL THE THROWS INTURN HE WILL SEE PRESS COVERAGE EVERYWHERE BECAUSE DCORDS KNOW HE CANT POSSIBLY BEAT THEM DEEP (HENCE 7TH ROUND PICK) .I was told by CERTaIN JET DREAMERS THAT LIVE IN A DELUSIONAL FANTASYLAND OD SB WINS TO COME THAT THE GAME IS PLAYED 10 YARDS AT A .REALLY what happeneed today
By Joe on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
LOL HEY Rex i heard YOU CLAIM YOU GOT 3 QUALITY QBS ON THE ROOSTER .Rex MAYBE IF YOU PLAYED IN THE SEC YOU HAVE 3 QUALITY QBS ON THE ROOSTER .The best QB you have on the rooster MAYBE YOUR WR CURLEY .What a joke .PS REX how you MAKING OUT ON ALL THE SB WINS YOU GUARANTEED AND PROMISED US .In case you missed it REX Bellichicks going to the playoffs AGAIN AS YOU DIDNT COME HERE TO KISS HIS RINGS
By Joe on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
My MOMS cousin who was the DC on multiple REDSKINS SB TEAMS TOLD ME FOR YEARS A QB MUST BE ABLE TO MAKE ALL THE NECC THROWS. MY BUSINESS PARTNER WHOS IN THE NEBRASKA HOF 6 YEARS IN THE NFL TOLD ME FOR YEARS A QB MUST BE ABLE TO MAKE ALL THE NECC THROWS.Today we saw they were CORRECT
By Joe on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Mclroy CLAIMED its the GREATEST TEAM GAME IN THE WORLD WRONG WRONG WRONG The NFL TODAY IS NOT A TEAM GAME ITS A GAME OF ELITE QB ,BECAUSE WITHOUT AN ELITE QB YOU GOT NO TEAM ASK THE COLTS REDSKIND AND BRONCOS .
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Saying Give Greg a Chance on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Saw a few good things from Mc this half but when the OL seemingly stopped playing in the 2nd he had no chance. Cimini's more than a little off about Mc's pocket presence, while he held the ball too long at times, on the 4th qtr sacks he barely had time to take two steps back after the snap. Since the result of the game is utterly meaningless, I take comfort in knowing that Ducasse was a major factor in possibly the worst game I've ever seen a Jet OL play, which should increase the probability of Mr T getting fired. I'll wait till the first post-game story, after I've heard some of the post-game comments, before saying more but it's good that Rex says Mc will start vs BUF. There's absolutely no pt in playing the other 2 QBs.
By Byrdman on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Chargers sack McElroy 11 times – WOW ! Did the O-line mail this game in or what? I figured they would be fired up, didn't you? Good news is we're moving up on the draft board. Glad Rex finally gave G-Mac a start, what did you guys think? Why not give Tebow the start next week? What have we got to lose, can we get 5th rounder from Jaguars? Norv Turner is 100X better OC than Sparano but, with all that talent and speed out in SD, if he takes over here in NY,for Turner its gonna be like climbing out of a Ferrari and into a Fiat :D
By BillsJets on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
McElroy, Every Man for themselves, it looked like you had maybe 3 seconds the longest to throw the ball, so much for an offensive line. Braylon Edwards is a keeper for WR. Smith should have been more utilized at TE, McElroy did as good as could have been expected by him considering the situation he was put in. Now Tebow time for the last game, might as well, what's it going to hurt.
By GaryC on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Are the jets thinking of turning Kerley into our ELITE QUARTERBACK,some of those so called other elite's aren't in the playoffs this year,Big Ben,Brees.For some reason,I believe you need a little more to become a super bowl team.
By Charliejet on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
What an insane year this has been…and we have one game yet to go…
By GaryC on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Hey Joe,you were going way back in the archives mentioning elite quarterbacks,like bart starr,namath,bradshaw,I thought football back then didn't matter in today's wide open game,do not go back too far in listing your elite quarterbacks,then I can go Steel Curtain,Doomsday Defense,and the Killer Bees on why teams won back then.Better stay in the last 10 years and do not go back any further.
By GaryC on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Better play Tebow next week,McElroy will be gun shy after only two games with this offensive line,Maybe we better draft Joeckl.
By Karan on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
11 sacks???? Really??
By Karan on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Mark to Greg: Welcome to my world
I don't care who plays at QB, but when the pass protection is that awful, no QB can succedd.
By Karan on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
I know Mark gets major heat and he deserves some of it too. But honestly, how do you expect a QB to succeed in this type of offensive system the Jets have built? McElroy experienced it first-hand.
By Karan on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Clearly, the NO. 1 ISSUE with this team is this Jets managment. That includes the front office, general manager, ownership all the way to coaching.
By Westcoast GangGreen on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Jet Nation.. Does not matter who is the QB. But, definitely not M. Sanchez, who ever and when ever someone new takes over the team if Mr Johnson does make changes needs to start with offensive line!Shameful!! Games are won and lost in the trenches and this group along with other defensive players with huge$ contacts have to go, B Scott, D'Brick, maybe a Mangold and Revis trade before they stock drops off and/or they leave. To free some $$$$ and get some draft picks. To rebuild this team quick with young talent. But do something Mr Johnson, I can't this much more… PLEASE..
By kw65fan on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Sporano has got to go. Horrendous play calling with a couple trick plays, but the problem was where are the adjustments..especially at half time. Adjustments as far as your QB not getting harrassed…11 sacks is crazy. 5 at halftime was OPEN YOUR EYES sporano…or maybe your sun glasses didn't let you see MAC getting hit over 20 times. where was Gug adjustment with o-line….whole offense coaching gotta go. No adjustments at half-time…have Mac roll out which he did with success. And MY LORD…I saw some screen passes in 1st qtr that suprised the Chargers…why not more to slow down the rush/blitz in 2nd half. So clueless Soprano…better off hiding behind those shades.
By Karan on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
I wish Tim Tebow the best of luck in Jacksonville. I have no doubt that he will turn that franchise around, for the better of course. He should have been in Jacksonville to begin with so glad he's out of New York.
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Saying Give Greg a Chance on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
So there's talk Tebow "opted out" of the Wildcat this wk. I'm not interested in Tebow because I've never been interested in Tebow, but I'll admit that the disaster of Rex, the Wildcat, and whoever thought it was a good idea to get Tebow is endless, though I'm glad to see it. Anything that pounds home to Woody the reality that Mr T isn't a GM and Rex isn't a HC is fine by me. When the Jets were up 14-10 I said to my friend, "Watch, Rex'll play it even more conservative and hope to win by this score even though Rivers is still a dangerous QB on some days and it means zero if we win this game." Damn if it didn't turn out exactly like that. My only interest in BUF is seeing how certain guys play, then it's game on for LONG-OVERDUE HUGE CHANGES!
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Saying Give Greg a Chance on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
From a fan's post from ESPN that I like: "There need to be massive changes with the FO purged and the coaches replaced, starting with Rex. The new GM needs to clean house of the malcontents and underachievers. Tebow and Sanchez need to be gone. If they're tradeable, great, if not cut them, you have to take the cap hit to save the team from this circus. Mc is the lone returning QB. He can be the back-up and start if needed, he's a good team guy and he's smart. He has guts and moxie. We need more players like him. Then you have to make decisions on Revis, DeVito, Greene, Keller and Holmes to name a few. Revis could bring some picks that are much needed. I'd hate to see him go, but the new GM has to do what is best NOT for him, but the team."
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Makeover on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
From that same fan post on ESPN, and I completely agree with all of this. Woody can revive this franchise in part ASAP by showing he means business: "As soon as the game ends in BUF, Woody should make it official. Mr T and Rex should be fired and their replacements will be filled quickly. I suggest Polian to be GM and trust who he'll pick as HC. There are plenty of good coaches with sterling resumes out there in: Dungy, Cowher and Gruden. Each has a SB ring and is respected in NFL circles. There are good assistants as well, but the Jets have gone that route and it's failed. I think a proven winner is essential in the next hire." I'll even settle for less than those guys at HC, the main pt is to flush the bad ideas of the Mr T/Rex yrs ASAP.
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Makeover on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Never let it be said that I won't cut Rex a break when he makes sense, as he does here. I'm referring specifically to that 3rd sentence about Mc's poise, which some of us have noticed since his first pre-season game: "When he wasn't on his back, I thought he did some good things. He had a couple of nice throws. I thought he was poised beyond belief, taking the kind of heat he was under. He made some nice runs. He's tough. Obviously, you don't want to see your QB get hit that many times, but we'll look at the tape and see how he did. I'm going to give him another opportunity against BUF and we'll go from there." Sorry I can't vote for giving you another opportunity in 2013, Rex, but you're not in tune enough with today's style of NFL play.
By scjoe on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply
Ok people, things don't look to promising right now, but keep in mind the Colts won just 2 games in 2011 and they are going to the playoff's in 2012. The Bengal's have been a bottom dweller for years, then one good draft (Dalton QB, and Greene WR) and they are going back to back playoff's. Also, the Skins, and the Seahawks proved there is no long term rebuilding. I am not a big believer in the term "rebuilding" With a competent FO (GM in particular) this team can compete with just a few "key" additions, a QB, a quality RB, and an OLB who can pressure the passer. Of course, this all begins with the FO….Are you writing this down Woody?
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Makeover on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
kw65, I salute you and Arte, who's been saying for yrs that we're the worst team in the NFL at 2nd-half adjustments. Only thing I don't get about some of these posts is playing Tebow next wk, which Rex is wisely not doing. Why bother? TT's already out the door that he should never have been let in. I agree with you, scjoe, in the same way that you no longer "need to give an NFL QB 5 yrs," you no longer need to allow many yrs for rebuilding, it can happen in 2 or so. Unfortunately, Mr T has traded picks for players for so long that our bench and even our starting lineup are as riddled with holes as any in the league so it's likely to take us a little longer. We need to dump the obvious waste from FO on down and emphasize the draft above all.
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Makeover on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
Joe, no doubt elite QBs and WRs are a big part of the game now, maybe the biggest. No doubt your college and pro football-connected friends know what they're talking about. But among the Jets' many long-time failings, 2 of them are (1) Not believing enough in, much less trying out, guys they draft and (2) Frantically trying to rebuild with has-been vets instead of the right way, thru the draft. In this sense, there's great value in playing Mc this wk and next even if everybody but him is gone next yr. It shows that the Jets can think a little outside the box, put some faith in their own experiments, and not cave in to fear before they even know what they got on the roster. If they learn just that from playing Mc, it's progress for this org.
By ELI RODRIGUEZ / on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
Mr. JOE, As much as I dislike M.S. as a QB, I hate when my team lose. You, my friend sound thrill we lost because you feel vindicated. Karen and I disagree she stated the O-line and lack of receivers was M.S. problem, I still think its M.S. You and I also disagree, well not you per say but your MOMS COUSIN. Football has evolved (From a 100% barbaric to a more strategic form–at least for me anyway) The Jets never had, They always want to win now–Unlike the Giants or Pats who build dynasty. My beef is with upper management and their 5 and 10 yrs plan–Before Ryan we were bad 2 quite years and now we're bad again. I'm hoping for RUSS BALL 4 GM AND I'll LET COWHER BUY THE GROCERY AND COOK. IT'S TIME FOR ORDER AND RESPECT. 10 yards at a time.
By Mike Jet Vet on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
Living in Fla, Naturally not getting the game for obvious reason, Jets are so bad what Station in their right mind would broad cast this team nation wide.. Anyway at least G-mac scored 14 before Vlad the Bust and his cohorts gave up the fight. 11 sacks ? how many fumbles or INT's would Sanchez have after 11 sacks . Chargers may have won by 50 given a ME scenario
By Bennett on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
Bet McElroys's hair hurts this morning
By BillsJets on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
The Jets would have as much as 7 guys blocking and the other team got to McElroy, when i watch other games, the QB has the regular 5 guys blocking and at times they can block out 5 guys rushing and the QB still has about 4 to 5 seconds to throw the ball, not the Jets 3 seconds at best, Offensive line needs improvements and the Jets still need to learn how to spread things out on offense, they always look like their always clumped up.
By Bennett on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
I don't buy the reports Tebow opted out of the wildcat, does not strike me as that kind of person. Ryan dressed all three QB's so as not to hurt feeling to much. Notice the empty seats Mr. Johnson. I said before the season if there is one person to blame for a bad season it is T-baum, he almost single handedly took a a playoff caliber team and drove it in the ground in 2 short seasons. He has to go, this is your first move and than the new GM can advise you what further steps to take. Of coarse Sporano goes the day after the final game or you could just do a huge shakeup and get the broom out, But T-baum most go first he has been a disaster as a GM. Just terrible, if you don't see it you don't belong as an owner in the NFL… polo horses…
By walt on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
I was just wondering if anyone can tell me what happens to the pactice squad players signed to a team after the season is offer.What is their status can any team sign them.Do they become part of the regular roster on the team whose practice squad they were a member.
By SCfromNY on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
Thoughts after another loss. First I am not a Tebow fan BUT the way he was treated will be a factor in players wanting to come to the Jets with the current regine. Kerley in the wildcat? How much more can the Jets insult Tebow? Why would Rex say he wants to see what McElroy can do and call so much of the outdated "ground and pound"? Seahawks and 49ers are defensive / ground & pound teams have realized in todays NFL you need to be able to light it up. CONSTANT aggessive play calling. Other teams are just so good that ANY lead is in danger. Didn't get to see much about McElroy, him being on the ground. It wasn't because he held onto the ball to long. Still you NEVER saw the Sanchez "pout" or quit in his demeanor.
By SCfromNY on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
i, among others have called for a "bust" 2013. We need to release so many players and have no money to sign FAs. We need to face reality for 2013. Eat the contracts of Sanchez & Holmes, if you can not make trades even with paying a portion of salery release them outright. Let Scott lead the exodus of older slow players past their prime.We wil have decent draft picks IF we change those making the picks. And with a wasted 2013 our picks in 2014 will be low and the QB class should be better. You no longer need to worry about drafting a rookie. I bet the fans will support losing in a true effort to rebuild.
Polian as GM, Gruden as HC, Turner as OC, all O minded coaches. I would like to see Rex as DC but probably not an option..
By Bennett on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
TEBOW this off season drop a good 20lbs, mucho stretching, lower weights, high reps, do not tinker or let anyone else tinker with your drop, the angle of your arm, faster release etc…. enought is enought…. go with what you got. Lighter = more speed, flexability = more range of movement, higher reps, lower weight = better muscle balance, quicker muscle response. Concentrate on accuracy WITH the mechanics you have think accuracy and only accuracy. Listen to Bennett, you can thank me latter
By the former ron alexander now Ronbo19 on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
GUYS, The very first play set the tone for the debacle that ensued at PSL stadium.Knowing this was Mac's first start, and how conservative Sparano is the Chargers had 9 guys in the box and ran a run blitz that blew the play up in the backfield.I literally called out the play as the teams lined up for that 1st snap. Now, if I can do that, dont you just know S.D was all over that. I mention this because as important as having great players is, its equally important to have coaches who know what they are doing to put them in posisition to succeed. Can any of you tell me you have witnessed any good coaching on this team this year? You would thing sparano would antisipate S.D might crowd the box and have an audable for Mac to go deep? oh well,
By the former ron alexander now Ronbo19 on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
S.C.Joe, From what I am reading and hearing it looks like you are gonna get your wish as it appears Rex will be back next year. While there has been no official announcement on this subject the NFL "insiders" are pretty much saying this is a done deal.The fact that Rex,Tanney and M.S are all under contract for next season appears to have as much to do about this than their stellar record and performance? Anyway, I read your post above and think you are leaving out one important piece needed to make your other suggestions workable. As 64 points out the W.R posisition is 2nd only to the Q.B posisition so if the jets are gonna turn this ship around in the near future we need a big time playmaker at that posisition.Like Dalton & Green in Cincey
By scjoe on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
Just looking at some of the media stories today, it occurred to me that they really have no clue about what is taking place. They question the fact Tebow wasn't given the start, but what they fail to take in to consideration is the fact Tebow will not be here next season and there is a good chance McElroy will be. So, does it really make sense to play Tebow at this point? Hard to say whether or not the players mailed it in, it sure looked like the O line did, but you have to put some of that on the QB as well, just to tentative in the pocket, looking forward to next game to see if it improves.
By scjoe on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
Ron, I have to disagree that a WR is the 2nd most important offensive player on the field, at least for this particular team. There is no way anyone can tell me that a quality RB, a RB who can consistently get to the outside, would have made a world of difference in this offense this year. I honestly believe that if you had megatron and Fitzgerald out there the results would have been the same with this QB situation. The WRs are adequate, the RBs are 3rd string at best. A quality QB and a quality RB will go a long way in turning this team around in 2013.
By MIKE on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
Sanchez, with that kind of pass rush would've fumbled twice and thrown 3 picks. I thought McElroy played well enough today to get another start. It is clear that this team has fallin far since 2010. Mac waqs poiosed and made some good throws. I would blame the loss more on play calling than anything. 4th and inches and a punt. Rex is playing scared and I hope that he gets fired. I agree 100% with SCJOE. Would love to see Pettine given an opportunity to be HC. It says alot when a DC doesn't accept a contract extension. This organizatiion needs some serious changes.
By GaryC on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
It really shows what kind of character Rex has,he shows more respect to guys like Holmes and Scott and disrespects Tebow to know end.I believe he really has insecurity concerns,seeing he always needs to tell himself he knows he can coach in this league and constantly saying his team is great.
By Mike Jet Vet on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
Teams like ..Washington, Colts, Cincy, Seattle, 49.ers to name a few … Please some one explain why these teams are heading towards the playoffs, yet the Jets are already done. Just no football conversation about this team in me , only negativity, We can talk all about what needs to be done to improve, talk about who should be hired or fired , we all know it won't do a bit of good. last 44 years are proof of that.. Best we ever come up with is a acceptable season once or twice every ten years or so… Yet I've watched over the years so many teams build and rebuild, though drafting, trades, deals. Win Division Titles SB titles, My Point 44 years of losing I can't, no I won't, accept we haven't learned to win
By Byrdman on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
At Quarterback for the NY Jets, #14 Greg SackElroy :D
Watching the Sunday night game (49er-Hawks) got me thinking… The QB position in the NFL demands more pure athletic ability from a player today, than it did even 10 years ago. We are seeing the future right now in guys like RG3, Russel Wilson, Kaepernick, and Luck. All have that ability to make throws from the pocket but, when it breaks down they can make an accurate pass on the run. Jets need to embrace this type of QB.
I hope whoever ends up making draft decisions for the Jets next year, recognizes this when evaluating potential picks.
By Another Tom on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
Many coaches will be fired after the season, and Rex should be one of them. There are some assisstants/co -ordinators that deserve a shot. How about Mike Zimmer from Cinci, or Bruce Arians from the Colts? He has done a tremendous job there. He seems to be a first class guy too. He would be my choice
By BillsJets on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
Brylon Edwards Fan
By 40 year fan , John on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
By Jack on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
Time to Clean the Jets house out here some names that Jets could get for some new Coaches. Rex Ryan as the HC, Norv Turner as the OC, Bob Sutton or Dennis Thurman as the DC, and Bill Polian as the new GM. OR Josh McDaniels as the new HC, Norv Turner as the OC, and Romeo Crennel as the DC, OR Jon Gruden HC, GM, still being in Bill Polian to help out with Gruden as the GM, Norv Turner or Bill Callahan as the OC, Sutton, Thurman or Crennel as the DC. Do now do it soon after the Season God help me I'm a jets fans.
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Makeover on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
The "Little" Fallacy: "I feel like I'm a starting quarterback in the NFL," Sanchez said Sunday after the Jets' 27-17 loss to the Chargers at MetLife Stadium. "I know I've done it at the highest level under the toughest kind of pressure and scrutiny in the playoffs and regular season. I know I can do it. I just wish I would have played a little better this year." Mangold and Ferguson also used the phrase "a little bit" to describe needed improvements. What the heck ever happened to, "WE HAVE TO PLAY A LOT BETTER"???
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Makeover on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
From Bondy: "You get sacked as often as Mc did, it really is as bad as throwing INTs downfield. Apparently, however, this is what Ryan desperately desires from his QB and OC — nothing ventured, with minimal gain. He has become more conservative out there than Rush Limbaugh, punting Sunday on 4th-and-a-foot from near midfield, running out the clock at the end of the first half with the ball on his 39. Nobody wins like this anymore. It's a philosophy that flies in the face of every SB championship team over the past decade, ever since Brad Johnson, a generic QB, somehow won the title with TB. Since then we've had Brady, Ben R., Rodgers, Brees, 2 Mannings." I don't know what you've read, Ronbo, but I doubt this will fly with Woody much longer.
By scjoe on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
MJV, simple, those teams you mention above all have one thing in common, they were all given quality additions to their roster by their respective GMs, quality at the most critical positions to boot. Make no mistake, this team can also turn around over night with just a few quality additions at the right positions. Question is, who is going to make those personnel decisions? If it is still T Bum, all bets are off.
By the former ron alexander now Ronbo19 on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
S.C.Joe, your point about the R.B vs. the W.R posisition is well taken and as always, I respect your opinion. My thought on this is a dynamic playmaker at the W.r. would force the defence to play the running game honest and not put 8 or 9 guys in the box.But yes, a great back would help us as well no doubt! Merry Christmans to you and your family my friend!
64, the jets post game as most of the N.Y papers are all speculating the Jets will give Tanney & Rex another shot to get it right? Do I agree?, heck no! Just passing on what I am hearing. I also wish you and your family a great holiday as well!
By Stevesc on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
How did you guys like the ground and pound yesterday? It worked perfectly for the Charger's as they grounded and pounded GMac into the turf all day. The O line's play was pathetic, giving up 11 sacks. With all the talk of the Jets needing a qb, a play maker at wr and an elite rb, I think the O line needs to be addressed first. As some of you have stated, the games are won and lost in the trenches, and it was painfully obvious yesterday. Even an elite qb would have had his hands full.
By Bennett on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
Byrdman…they won't
By Joe on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
GARY defence means NOTHING TODAY (PITTS RANKED NUMBER 1 TOTAL DEFENCE IN THE NFL AND THERE A 500 TEAM BECAUSE BEN HAD A BAD YEAR.)Gary 90% of all sb winners HAD A PRO BOWL LEVEL QB .Years ago DEFENCES COULD CONTROL THE GAME TODAY AINT YEARS AGO DIFFERENT TIME WAY DIFFERENT rules Lets hear you answer for the FACT THAT THE LAST 10 SB WINNERS All had ELITE QBS
By Joe on Dec 24, 2012 | Reply
ELI come on man IF YOU DIDNT SEE THIS COMING. All in all history DICTATES IF AN NFL TEAM MISSES ON A FIRST ROUND QB THERE BIG PROBLEMS (MARK SANCHEZ )I dont feel vindicated iam SIMPLY TIRED OF MY TEAM BEING THE JOKE OF THE NFL (REX brough much of this on himself as the play on the field NEVER MATCHED HIS MOUTH )
By Byrdman on Dec 25, 2012 | Reply
It would have made me proud to be a Jet fan if "SOMEBODY" would have fired Sparano and the O-line coach "Guge" DURING the game Sunday? LOL That would've totally made this debacle worth watching! As Dysfunctional and Disorganized as the team has looked on the field this year, I'm hearing reports that it's even WORSE behind closed doors. Rex gets in front of the cameras for his pressers and tries to paint a big happy face on things but… heard it's non-stop shouting and screaming at each other off camera. That's not the type of environment which is conducive to winning football. "Loose lips sink ships" Things are going to get UGLY here real fast!
By Mike Jet Vet on Dec 25, 2012 | Reply
Jack, you're kidding right.. Half the coaches you mentioned have tried and failed as head coaches . We need a coach with Much knowledge, experience, and Success at the High School, Collegiate, Than pro level, Today's world is not about Discipline Honor, even earning what you receive, Like in the past When you were told to Complete and win or you're gone they worked hard played hard for far less …These young Men today are spoiled brats by parents and society playing a Man's game. They're Payed life earned Money on the front end of a contract.. Sorry to say as a result more than half will settle for the front money. and let the chips fall where they may
By scjoe on Dec 25, 2012 | Reply
Ron, first and foremost a very Merry Christmas to you and your family as well. Think, just one more "debacle" to watch this year. Then we look forward to baseball season where, as a Giant fan, I have seen much more success .Anyway, I am not diminishing the need for a quality WR, but at the same time I stand true to my theory that a quality QB goes a long way in making an average WR a quality one. So, bring in that quality QB and you solve two problems with the price of one. Meanwhile, that quality RB has a much better chance of beating those 8 or 9 defenders in the box, which in turn opens things up for the passing game, example? Minn, Houston, SF. Note, I am not using the term "elite" just give me quality at the QB and RB spot.
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for REAL changes on Dec 25, 2012 | Reply
Well, Ronbo, last night's story, obviously after you posted, is that the Jets are already looking for a new GM and when they find out — in about 5 minutes — that nobody good will share the job with Mr T, I think you'll see big changes. Make no mistake, I'd never deny that I'm rooting for a complete makeover, but I'm going against the conventional Jet fan wisdom/ignorance on this one, rooted in the usual "Oh, things will never change that much." I have a feeling that Woody's going to wield an axe to this team, this yr surely has infuriated him, especially if what Byrdman says about people going at each other behind closed doors is true. Lots of us saw it all coming like Joe says, though, with "Mark's" absurd extension and getting Tebow..
By GaryC on Dec 25, 2012 | Reply
Hey Joe,Big Ben was one of those elite qbs you named,so do not back away now that the steelers aren't in the playoffs.Elite quarterbacks can take the team on their backs,steelers gave up 13 points to Bengals,and still lost.Elite qbs get more points in a game then that.
By Joe on Dec 25, 2012 | Reply
FRANCESSA called it LAST YEAR as NY WILL TOLERATE BIG MOUTH PROVIDED THEY BACK UP WHAT THEY ARE SAYING .ReX DEFINATELY HAS NOT BACK UP A WORD THAT HAS COME OUT OF HIS MOUTH
By GaryC on Dec 25, 2012 | Reply
Joe,what is the meaning of an elite quarterback,IS THAT ANY QUARTERBACK WHO GETS THEIR TEAM TO A SUPER BOWL,Like Theismann,Rypien,Plunkett,Brad Johnson or is it hall of famers like Kelly,Tarkenton,who lost a lot of Super bowls,Elite means above all others and that doesn't mean losing.ELITE ONLY LAST'S AS LONG AS YOUR LAST GAME.
By GaryC on Dec 25, 2012 | Reply
Joe,if defense means nothing nowadays I guess guys like Matthews,Watt,Aldon Smith,Revis are not worth their salary.
By GaryC on Dec 26, 2012 | Reply
Joe,give me a reason why Peyton Manning has been to only two super bowls in his career,because he had lousy defenses,Brees,one Super Bowl,we will see this year when either the Texans,niners,seahawks,bears or bengals win and see if their qbs all of a sudden become elite.
By scjoe on Dec 26, 2012 | Reply
GaryC, my 2 cents on your ongoing debate with Joe, re: "elite" QBs, As you may have noticed in my recent posts I try to stay away from the term "elite" I think that if you refer to every SB winning QB as "elite" you would be watering down the term. So, that said, I do have to agree that the vast majority of SB winners over the past 2 decades all had "quality" QBs. Of course ALL those quality QBs on any given year will not win a SB because it is mathematically impossible. If your team is one of the lucky ones (Hou, GB, NYG? NE?) who happen to have a quality QB AND a "good" defense, your chances improve 2 fold. With neither? Jets? Sorry!
By Joe on Dec 26, 2012 | Reply
GARY LETS REVIEW last 10 super bowl winners MANNING BROTH BRADY ROTHESBURGER BREES ROGERS .Gary the last time i checked theres only 1 sb as ALL OF THEM CANT WIN IT EVERY YEAR .Even ELITE QB (ROTHESBURG GET HURT ECT AND HAVE OFF YEARS )The points your futality trying to make are IN ABSOLUTLY POSITIVELY NOT BACK UP BY FACT
By Joe on Dec 26, 2012 | Reply
Gary BEFORE you post you should do some research AS if you google THEISMAN AND JIM PLUNKETT THEY WERE PRO BOWL ELITE QB WHEN THEIR TEAMS WON SUPER BOWLS aPPROX 90 % OF ALL SB WINNERS WERE QB BY PRO BOWL PLAYERS iF YOU MAKE THE PRO BOWL YOUR ELITE
By Joe on Dec 26, 2012 | Reply
Gary BEFORE you post you should do some RESEARCH as the last time i checked last years SB WINNER (GIANTS WERE 16 RANKED TOTAL D IN THE NFL )The year before the PACKERS were EVEN WORSE )This year the STEELERS HAVE THE BEST D IN FOOTBALL .
By Joe on Dec 26, 2012 | Reply
GARY (YOU REALLY MAKE IT SO EASY FOR ME )Payton Manning has been to ONLY 2 SB because he COMPETES WITH QBS THAT ARE JUST AS GOOD namely ROGERS BREES E MANNING BRADY ECT If one doesnt win it the others will .Gary AINT NO GAME MANAGER WINNING IT .Six players today are basically passing the LOMBARDI BETWEEN THEM .The kid from Atlanta (IF HE PLAYS WELL ENOUGH )MIGHT HAVE A SHOT .Gary its not the NFL ITS THE NATIONAL QB LEAGUE Gary YOUR REFUSING TO ACCEPT A HISTORICAL FACT, your in denia;l BECAUSE WE DONT HAVE A PRO BOWL QB Your ignoring the fact that 90&of all sb winners were QB BY A PRO BOWL PLAYER
By Joe on Dec 26, 2012 | Reply
Gary WHAT WAS THE INDY COLTS RECORD LAST YEAR .Gary one player and only one player was responsible for 10X plus wins from this year to last .Gary who was the player and position DOES he play DITTO WASH REDSKINS
By Joe on Dec 26, 2012 | Reply
Gary NO DEFENCIVE PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE CAN REMOTELY COME NEAR THE VALUE OF HAVING A PRO BOWL LEVEL QB. A pro bowl level qb CAN INSTANTLY MAKE A POOR TEAM A SB CONTENDER (INDY COLTS )Revis might be worth a game what do the results say ANDRREW LUCK IS WORTH
By Joe on Dec 26, 2012 | Reply
Gary the POINT SPREAD in the first STEELER RAVEN GAME CHANGED EXACTLY 7.5 POINTS MIDWEEK WHEN THE STEELERS REVEALED ROTHESBURGER WAS OUT .One player in an NFL GAME worth 7.5 points .What were you saying again about the value of defencive players REVIS MATHEWS SMITH
By Joe on Dec 26, 2012 | Reply
Gary last year the SF 49 won approx 13 plus games and CAME EXACTLY ONE GAME FROM THE SB DID THEY NOT .Why then GARY did SF offer PAYTON MANNING 90 MILLION DOLLARS IN FREE AGENCY 90 MILLION .The NINERS won alot of games with ALEX SMITH yet still offered 90 million to an INJURED 36 PLUS YEAR OLD PLAYER .Gary explain to all of us why they would do such a thing LOL MAYBE THEY HAD NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH THE 90 MILLION.or they REALIZED IF YOU WANT TO WIN THE SB YOU NEED AN ELITE QB .Gary cant wait to hear your explanition
By GaryC on Dec 26, 2012 | Reply
Joe,you got to be kidding with Plunkett,this guy bummed around playing for patriots and niners before the raiders,do your research,Scjoe,like your wording better saying quality which I will go with.Elite is for the rare few,Joe needs a history lesson on truly great quarterbacks,Long before when you could hit or maim them and not get a penalty and when you could bump the receivers,much harder playing qb back then.
By GaryC on Dec 26, 2012 | Reply
Joe,because the niners had a great DEFENSE,and a QUALITY QUARTERBACK could put them over the top,they had everything else.
By GaryC on Dec 26, 2012 | Reply
Joe you are wising up starting to call your quarterbacks All Pro caliber,which is a come down from Elite.Quarterbacks need to accomplish a lot before Elite becomes the vernacular.
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for REAL changes on Dec 26, 2012 | Reply
Joe has certainly stated his case, uh, rather extensively here. But I'll second one of his key points anyway, because it can't be stressed enough: No player on D can come close to having the impact that an elite QB can have not only on O, but on the entire team. That's why the Pats, who love to talk about Brady, will be in it until the day he retires and we, who love to talk about Revis, will never be in it until we get someone like Brady at QB. Which is also why I want to trade Revis for picks ASAP.
By GaryC on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply
You know who really needs to be Elite in sports,A hockey goalie in the playoffs,unlike a quarterback,he is on ice for all 60 minutes,not having a break,facing man advantages,unlike quarterbacks who might play half the game.
By Joe on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply
GARY you ALWAYS FAIL TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT 90% OF ALL SB WINNING QB MADE THE PRO BOWL .Stop alluding and lets hear you response .Out of the 90% prob 70% are in the HOF
By Joe on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply
Gary oh the NINERS and their great DEFENCE Gary is this the VERY SAME NINERS (DEFENCE )THAT GOT BEATEN AT HOME LAST YEAR BY THE NY GIANTS WHO DEFENCE WAS RANKED 16 IN THE NFL.The NINERS lost because ELI MANNING destroyed thir GREAT DEFENCE Gary face the FACTS (stop with the lame excuses because nobodys buying them )as the NINERS KNOW TO WIN A SB DEFENCE AINT DOING IT (YOU GOT TO MATCH FIREPOWER WITH FIREPOWER )
By Joe on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply
Gary Jim PLUNKETT who bummed aroung the league .Is this the same JIM PLUNKET who was the most valuable player in the SB .Is this the same Jim Plunkett WHO WON THE NFL comeback player of the year Is this the same Jim PLUNKETT who won 2 super bowl rings .
By the former ron alexander now Ronbo19 on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply
GARY C &JOE, as you guys are two of the best posters here on Randy's Radar please allow me to throw my 2 cents in as well. "Elite", "franchise", "quailty' or any colorful discriptive name you wanna call them a Q.B who is a positive difference maker is what we are talking about here. As S.C.Joe points out, only 2 teams will make it to the Superbowl each year.I think we can all agree that a guy like Sanchez who is a poor decision maker, poor reader of pass coverages and extremely inaccurate as a passer is not who we are talking about. A guy like Brady or Payton who hits the w.r in stride allowing y.a.c is a simple example of a posative difference maker.
By Joe on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply
GARY YOU WANT TO TAKE PRO BOWLERS OUT OF IT AND GO BY HALL OF FAMERS INSTEAD .OUT OF 45 SB APROX 35 WERE WON BY HOF OR SURE FIRE HOF QBS STARR 2 NAMATH 1 DAWSON 1 GRIESE 2 BRADSHAW 4 STAUBACK 2 MONTANA 3 AIKKMAN 3 ELWAY 2 YOUNG 1 FARVE 1 BRADY 3 MANNING BROS 3 ROTHESBURGER 2 BREES 1 ROGERS 1 .The list is right in front of you INSTEAD OF DODGING THE QUESTION ADDRESS THE FACT THAT APROX 80% OF ALL SB PLAYED WERE WON BY QB IN THE HOF
By Joe on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply
Tom its too funny .Gary uses DENIAL TO ATTEMPT TO JUSTIFY HIS FANTASY OF THE JETS WINNING THE SB (.Because WE DONT HAVE AN ELITE QB WE CAN DO WITHOUT IT ).If you look back at his RESPONSES NOT ONE TIME HAS HE HAD AN ANSWER AS TO WHY THE LAST 10 SB WERE WON BY ELITE QB 0R SINCE THE SB INCEPTION 80% OF ALL WINNING QBS ARE IN THE HOF.
By Joe on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply
Tom Gary has also FAILED TO ANSWER MY QUESTION REGARDING THE SUDDEN TRANSFORMATION OF THE COLTS AND REDSKINS FROM DOORMATS TO SB CONTENDERS .Both teams have basically the idential roosters as last year PLUS JUST 1 PLAYER EACH How can adding 1 PLAYER IN THE ULTIMATE TEAM SPORT CASE SUCH A TRANSFORMATION. GARY WERE WAITING FOR YOUR ANSWER
By GaryC on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply
Hey Joe,I forgot I was talking to Joe KAPP[S],you who lost to the chiefs in super bowl 4.you never made the pro bowl either,just kidding,what about the new found run game the redskins have gotten with Alfred Morris,have you forgotten him.First of all what does this argument have to do with the jets,the jets are trying to work up to getting a mediocre quarterback,let alone an all-pro.
By GaryC on Dec 27, 2012 | Reply
Hey joe,last mention of this topic,the word elite means above the rest,if you are alternating winning super bowls,you are not above,Montana,Bradshaw,Starr,never lost a Super Bowl,Get a Fathead of these guys and write above ELITE.by the way elite eli will miss the playoffs for the third time in four years.
By Joe on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply
ELITE ELI HAS 2 SUPER BOWL RINGS AND IS A FIRST BALLET HOF .The REDSKINS RUN GAME MEANS NOTHING WITHOUT SHANNON HIMSELF CLAIMS running backs are a dime a dozen
By Joe on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply
By Joe on Dec 28, 2012 | Reply
Gary you also mentioned that the JETS are searching for an AVERAGE QB .The last time i checked the ONLY REASON TO PLAY THIS GAME IS TO WIN THE SB INTURN THE LAST TIME I CHECKED AVERAGE QB DONT WIN SUPER BOWLS .WHY BOTHER


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