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I was Main tanking Kara last night with ease on my druid, all of the old gear still applies, and the clefthoof set is still pretty good(although the defense is pretty much useless now it gives good stam and some dodge), my armor went from ~25k or so to ~17k buffed but i havent noticed a difference in damage taken really due to the new dodge talents.
With the Crit reduction talents and armor nerf ive forgone some of the traditional tanking gear for expertise and dodge rating.
Expertise isnt something to be overlooked as a bear tank either. Its extremely easy for us to hit the cap with Earthwarden + brooch of deftness and the 10 expertise talent and one other piece of expertise gear (i currently wear some gloves)
Ill post my Armory link later when maintenence is done but until then i can make a few suggestions.
Commendation (if at all possible just get this. the stamina is huge even if you dont drop below 35%hp)
Pocketwatch (still worth it in terms of avoidance in my point of view, i chose this over the +45 stam trinkets from brewfest when it came time for me, and yes it is in kara but pretty much anyone should be able to do moroes)
Grips of Deftness - I shyed away from traditional tanking gloves and actually prefer these over my t4 gloves because of the expertise, and with the gear changes these are actually great for tanking since the green armor values dont apply.
Heavy clefthoof Chest - is still pretty good until you get your hands on either a traditional rogue chest like the Chestguard of the Conniver or your T4 Chest/Badge Chest , Primalstrike is another valid option more threat oriented but it should do well enough for tanking.
Legs - not sure what to grab for these but clefthoof should still be viable due to high stam+dodge until you can get t4/badge legs. Alternatively the warp splinter legs from botanica should function quite well if needed.
Boots - Heavy clefthoof or depending on your server/if youre lw you can grab the pattern for Boots of Natural Grace and craft them. I got the pattern for ~70g and crafted the boots for about 130g so 200g for boots that last you until Black temple or equivalent gear is pretty good.
Belt - The Epic Belt from Heroic Ramps is really good or you can always grab the Primalstrike belt if youre LW
Weapon - Earthwarden. Simple - Run CE dungeons and do all the CE quests its an amazing weapon until you get into SSC or Hyjal.
Idol - 20 badges Idol of Terror, i personally still find this to be the best tanking idol ingame.
Bracers - Umberhowls from the Quests out in shadowmoon are still pretty good, you can always grab pvp bracers or primalstrike as well.
Neck - Brooch of Deftness. Hands down is my choice, its just my play style though, it helps stop some of the annoying parries that you get and also reduces the need for hit slightly. Also this has a very large amount of stamina. You could still get the 25 badge tanking necklace if you want, its still rather good in terms of avoidance but i just find that expertise helps more.
Head and shoulders - Pvp items are the easiest to get here, personally im working on getting the Hydross shoulders for the expertise boost since i only have 1 point in our expertise talent but if i wasnt getting them I would be shooting for S2 shoulders. Stylin Purple Hat is also very good for starting tanks.
Rings - Delicate Eternium Rings are great for tanking now that defense is irrelevant. Also the Violet Signet from kara is excellent because of the armor. Both are easy to obtain.


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The bottom line is that these pet peeves of mine are classic examples of how the marketing bozos of our industry keep trying to foul up a beautiful thing. Something so simple and enjoyable as music and the emotional satisfaction that it can deliver. Be aware of these; they can rob you of IQ points and, even worse, make you buy bad gear.
1. Calling EQ settings by music genre
We've all seen them: Jazz, Pop, Classical, Rap, etc. My iPod and my OEM car head unit are just two glaring examples. Why the response curve of any music playback has to be altered from the original recording escapes me. You don't see tone controls on high-end preamplifiers. To do so would just put more obstacles between you and the music. So why all the fuss for one's car radio or A/V receiver? Sure I may need to boost the highs a bit if the speakers in a particular room are located in less than ideal locations. But calling that EQ setting "Pop" or "Rap" is just plain misleading and stupid. I would wager that calling an EQ setting "Jazz" for instance, leads a significant portion of the public to believe that that EQ setting is the best for that particular genre of music. What is someone to do if they like several kinds of musical genres? Keep switching EQ settings all the time. Jeese!
2. Identifying speakers by their wattage
A speaker's wattage is a number that can mean several things depending on how the particular manufacturer chooses to use them. It can mean how much average or even peak amount of power it can handle, but what it doesn't mean is how loud the speaker will play. And there's the rub. To the uninitiated, identifying a speaker by its wattage makes them think that bigger is better. Or worse—that one speaker will play louder than another. How loud a speaker will play is a function of several things like: speaker sensitivity, room size and acoustics, speaker location and transfer function to the room, speaker position, crossover technique, dispersion pattern, etc. Don't get trapped into the wattage on the box game.
Most speakers fall into three general wattage categories: Low power for simple desktop and background audio systems; mid-power handling for power that comes in a typical A/V receiver; and high-power handling for discrete amplification. Seek the advice of a knowledgeable installer or system integrator if you're still confused.
3. Calling out video screen sizes by diagonals
Where is Ralph Nader when you need him? This one is really insidious. What started out as a clever marketing gambit by CRT television manufacturers back in the '60s, has turned out generations of confused consumers. You don't measure your walls or windows diagonally now do you? How about your drapes or your furniture? So why all the fuss over TV diagonals? Obviously it makes one think they're getting something bigger than they really are. But who's kidding who? Calling TV's by their diagonal measurement makes as much sense as stating the gas mileage of one's car while driving down hill.
With 16:9 aspect ratio displays and now 2.35 constant height projection coming into vogue, the old diagonal measurement snake oil trick isn't what it used to be. I've actually had people send me plan views of their theaters with every dimension called out in width and depth and the screen called out in a diagonal. Uff dah! While most suppliers and consumers may continue to tout their plasma and LCD flat panels in diagonal terms, serious video reviewers and videophiles are increasingly making the distinction between televisions and projection, by referring to a projector or screen's width rather than diagonal. Why? Because whey you start getting really big images, the most important dimension is the width of the room.
4. "Future proofed" products
I've actually seen support documentation for A/V receivers and processors claim that the components are ready for any new surround format or wiring schema that should come along. Some even go so far as having removable circuit boards and software upgrade ports. All of this may work well up to a point, but to claim one's gear as being truly futureproof is folly. No one can say for certain what the future holds. All one needs to do is look to the computer industry to prove my point. If those bright guys couldn't make a computer architecture that was relevant for more than a couple of years, why would you expect A/V suppliers to do any better?
5. "Invisible" in-wall speakers
I feel partially responsible for this one I must admit. I was part of the marketing team at a/d/s/, Analog and Digital Systems in Massachusetts, that created the first in-wall speaker design in 1983 (contrary to claims by Speakercraft and Sonance). Sure in-walls are nice and neat and give you back your room, but again, who's kidding who? In-wall speakers are no more "invisible" than a heating vent on the wall. And to a growing number of design conscious consumers that I speak to daily, in-wall speakers have the aesthetic appeal of a cheese-grater on the wall.
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6. Flat panel TVs set up wrong with 4:3 images stretched to fill the screen –- and then real 16:9 content looks even worse!
Are black bars on the sides of the display all that bad? I can't tell you how much I have to bite my tongue every time I go to my local sports bar or neighborhood restaurant and see either the analog broadcast stretched out so badly that Kobe looks as fat as Shaq. Or worse yet, they actually have a 16:9 source and the image now has been squished and black bars appear at the top and bottom of the screen. Come on people. If your picture on your new flat panel pride and joy looks like a fun house mirror, I strongly advise that you call a real integrator to help you sort it all out. He might just take pity on you and show you what your future proofed, invisible, 69-inch diagonal display with the "Country" EQ setting and 400 watt speakers is really capable of doing. The truth will set you free.
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As I think about things to write for my blog, it reminds me to go back to my research and recheck data, see where I am on my goals, what letters I need to write to obtain new information, and find out what is still missing that I want to discover.
My latest project idea came about after I wrote about Naturalization and Women last week. I thought it would be a good idea to make an Excel file with the names of the people in my main lines (to start), their date of birth, date of immigration, date of Declaration, date of Naturalization, and occupation.
As I look at the data, I have 24 people in my main lines who immigrated. Of those I have dates of immigration for 22. Of those, I have iffy dates, meaning I put Abt. 1880 as a date, for two. Looking more at the data I see I have very few Declaration and Naturalization dates recorded. Why is that? Did I not enter them in my database? Did I only have a Naturalization date and no Declaration date? I think I need to go back through my paper files and try to answer some of these questions. If I do not have a record, it is time to search for one or see if I have a letter from IRAD (Illinois Regional Archives Depository) stating no record was found.
I listed occupation in my file because I would like to expand this and add children to the immigrants and trace the occupations of those children. Did most of the male children follow in the footsteps of their father, or choose a different trade? Did the women follow in their mother's footsteps and become wives and mothers?
I love Excel sheets, can you tell since this is my second post about them and I am using them for several purposes? I have another file specifically for Burial listings. I created a Burial report in my Family Tree Maker software and exported it to Excel. The file contains the person's first and last names, date of death, cemetery name, location of grave. This of course is an ongoing project to find as many grave sites as I can to fill in the gaps. I have 2,336 people in my database so far and grave sites for only about 95 of them. Time to start researching more death certificates and obituaries and asking the family about some of the more recent people who have died.
What is your latest project for your research? Are you filling in gaps with different data than I am looking at? Have you created other types of reports and spreadsheets to capture missing data? I would love to hear about it. I'm always looking for new ways to add information to the lives of my ancestors.


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Picture this—a family, one member, we'll call him "Dad," likes big sound, strong bass and an overall killer sound experience to go with the TV the size of a kitchen table. Half of the family, we'll call them "Lazy Slackers" don't want to bother with a receiver, speakers, sound modes, universal remote or any of that fun stuff that Dad thinks is important. Dad is tempted to cancel the cell phone services of the Lazy Slackers if they don't stop whining, but then someone else, we'll call her "Mom," would make Dad sleep in the shed, and there are mice in the shed.
Mom can also be trouble, because she doesn't like remotes, speakers or wires, and her opinion counts more than the Lazy Slackers, so our family finds itself at an impasse.
Hey, that's why soundbars were invented, right? Soundbars are family problem solvers, crisis control devices that allow Dad (Ok, we're talking about me) to enjoy better audio for the TV but without the complications that full surround sound systems introduce –my wife says basements were invented for surround sound. I think they were invented for storing potatoes and the ladder I "borrowed" from the neighbor, but we're getting off topic.
Anyway, the soundbar market has gotten a bit bloated lately. Every company that knows how to stick a brand on a box offers a home theater soundbar. Unfortunately most of them aren't much better than the TV speakers they're supposed to replace. Real innovation in a soundbar means taking a look at the speaker concept from scratch and developing something that solves the real problems—getting large, accurate sound with concussive bass out of a single speaker that fits under a television.
Atlantic Technology is one of the companies that did just that. They started with a concept, called H-PAS (Hybrid Pressure Acceleration System), which uses an internal pressuring matrix to produce more bass from the speaker enclosure, thereby eliminating the need for a subwoofer. The system first debuted in tower speakers, but a soundbar is a perfect application.
The PowerBar 235 is actually a bit bulkier than a lot of the soundbars you'll find on the market. Most current soundbars are just a few inches deep, while the PowerBar is 6.5 inches deep. The size issue partially explains why so many of the other soundbars sound so anemic. The PowerBar requires the large cavity for the H-PAS system to work. It's also 26 pounds, which includes the built-in 80 Watt amplifier plus four drivers (two woofers and two tweeters). My wife thought the whole thing looked like a really large center channel, so she was relieved when I told her this was everything, and not part of a 7.1 system.
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I cut the chub into one or two day amounts, package individually and freeze until needed. I mix the venison with canned pumpkin for constipation relief for my 15 year old cat who has developed food allergies. My vet recommends alternating raw venison and pumpkin with raw rabbit with pumpkin and onlynaturalpet.com provides chubs of both. They deliver quickly and the chubs are still frozen when they arrive to Washington state from Colorado.
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Thanks for posting, google auth made me crazy today. :(ReplyDelete
Furthermore, this accident raises my concerns about the multifactor authentication methods developed by 3rd parties, even the most trusted ones like Google...
Thankfully I was not in WiFi or cell range at work this morning so I missed this update from Google. Would one time passwords from LastPass enable you to get around this problem until you could fix it in LastPass and Google Authenticator?ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousSeptember 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM
not sure but if u have backup codes from google authenticator then it should work.Delete
Doesn't the ability to disable it so easily make it less secure?ReplyDelete
Doesn't the ability to disable it so easily make it less secure?ReplyDeleteReplies
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Trivial security. If someone gained access to your lastpass password, AND your email password, you don't really know how To use two factor authentication and it should be turned off. What about lastpass password and phone? Would you really want a text to reset the authenticator?ReplyDelete
Trivial security. If someone gained access to your lastpass password, AND your email password, you don't really know how To use two factor authentication and it should be turned off. What about lastpass password and phone? Would you really want a text to reset the authenticator?ReplyDelete
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unless your backup email account requires a password only stored in your lastpass account, and you are logged out of both of them. yup keep those backup codes handy...ReplyDelete


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Why you need a home lab to keep your job
IT professionals can't assume their employers want, or can afford to, train them in the latest technologies and should hone and acquire new skills at home in a self-built test lab. That's the opinion of Mike Laverick, VMware's senior cloud infrastructure evangelist. Laverick has operated a lab for over a decade, starting with a …
Guess I'm lucky then that the company I'm at values progression and pays for training courses? Admittedly it's the first company I'm with who do it, previous three didn't, but still...
My "home lab" pales in comparison to the article's "lab", three desktops, one laptop, three switches, six screens, I guess the only one profiting from it is probably my electricity supplier :(
Re: Lucky?
If you get a chance, check out "Synergy" (for Linux, Mac, Win, http://synergy-foss.org/), and Mouse Without Borders (by Microsoft Garage, Win only, http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35460). Both programs allow you to share a single mouse and keyboard among several computers across a network. My home lab is so much more useful now that I can sit here and control 3 to 4 computers from one mouse and keyboard.
Re: Lucky?
Input Director is what I use at work.
Windows only, though. And at the time I was using Synergy you couldn't share the clipboard (I see you can now).
Plus synergy's configuration was a bitch (easier to manually edit the config file) - look easier now.
home labs: mine has just died... and of course I have no support (obsolete, hand-me-down hardware from work) so I'm buggered.
Re: Lucky?
@AchimR : Yes, consider.yourself lucky.
At the final interview my last employer promised me that they would allow me to maintain/improve my skill set. When push came to shove and I wanted to do a course that would help both them and me, they offered to pay my entry to a local computer expo.
Where's a BOFH icon when you want it?
Re: Lucky?
> "Input Director is what I use at work."
For Windows machines, you might want to try Mouse Without Borders. The development seems to be more active than for Input Director, and it's got full support for Win8 now. I'm having real good success with it. One interesting thing about this program is that you MUST run the same version of the program on all machines. I had a devil of a time with it the one day until I realized I had installed a newer version on one of the new machines in the configuration.
Synergy has come a long way the past couple of years, and has a pretty full set of features. It's very nice to be able to jump from a Linux workstation directly into a Windows 7 laptop. Synergy tends to lose the connection a bit more frequently (maybe once every couple of hours), but that's to be expected in such a mixed environment. Synergy does have a GUI front-end for Linux, but it's just as easy to start from the terminal with the "synergys" or "synergyc" command, pointing it at the IP address of the other machine.
Re: Lucky?
I used synergy in my last job, my desk had a Linux desktop on one monitor and an XP laptop driving the other monitor.
Keyboard, mouse and could cut/paste text between them. Very nice.
Windows GUI, Linux you have to set up a config file and use synergys/synergyc, but once setup it is a joy to use.
Re: Lucky?
+1 for Synergy. Its a superb bit of kit. Not the most intuitive to setup, but not really that hard. Free, Open Source and cross-platform. I mean what else do you want?
Re: Lucky?
"If you get a chance, check out "Synergy" "
I just did. And I think it will change my life.
I didn't even know this product existed. I installed it on mac/win/linux in minutes and immediately threw out two keyboards/mice. And I can copy/paste across machines! Genius!
Thanks, Andy Prough, you made an old man very happy.
Re: Lucky?
I've been seriously looking at solar panels and batteries to run my home lab. It's small enough right now that it wouldn't take to much of an investment to get that ball rolling.
Re: Lucky?
> Synergy tends to lose the connection a bit more frequently (maybe once every couple of hours)
I tunnel Synergy over an ssh connection (using Putty if a Windows machine is involved) and do not experience disconnects. It also gets around that pesky 'synergy sending plain keystrokes over the network' security issue.
Not just training...
I used to live an hour away from work. The computers we had for our OLAP solution were so "powerful", that it was actually quicker to compress the export, copy it to USB, drive home, copy it onto my "home" PC, recalculate the datase, copy it onto USB and drive back to the office and copy it over the original database!
Re: Lucky? (am I missing something?)
What's wrong with a KVM? You may need a good one to drive a high res monitor (crap ones kill the signal) but it worked for me when I needed it.
(okay, you can't copy/paste but still)
Re: Lucky? (am I missing something?)
> "What's wrong with a KVM? You may need a good one to drive a high res monitor (crap ones kill the signal) but it worked for me when I needed it."
Nothing wrong with KVM. However, Synergy and Mouse Without Borders are free, whereas a good KVM can run you $80 to $100 (cheaper for used or for less powerful devices). Plus, with the software solutions, you don't have to physically switch a button to go from one computer to the other - it's seamless. The KVM switches I've looked at all required some type of physical interaction with the box in order to switch computers.
Re: Lucky?
I wouldn't cope without Synergy in the first place ;) (depending of course if I am trying other network stuff out, where ports may be closed for the time being of course).
One "disadvantage" over time is, I completely lose track where my mouse icon is, heh :)
Beer, from one synergy user to another.
Re: Lucky?
I'm thinking along similar plans. Once I buy a house over time I want to switch electricity supply to solar panels and whatever else will be available for home renewable energy use (e.g. wind, depending on location).
Also planning to swap all regular bulbs to LED bulbs, 1/10th of the Wattage, same light. Light up full house for less W than previously just one room.
And that money saved could go into more lab tech (or into my motorbike...)
Beer, it's Friday, end of week (unless on on-call schedule, my thoughts are with you).
Re: Lucky?
...or you could just use X and RDP. You don't even need to be in the same room with the other PCs.
A KVM switch is also an obvious solution. You can share the monitor too.
Re: Lucky? (am I missing something?)
...you've got 3 or 4 complete PCs and possibly even Macs and you are worried about the cost of a KVM switch?
Re: Lucky?
Or you could just fire up Lync and share your desktop....
Agreed, but.
...try telling the employers who look only at certificates.
For them, a piece of paper always trumps years of solid hands-on experence.
Fun to watch when it bites them on the arse though.
Re: Agreed, but.
Glad I find most employers ask for experience over anything else nowadays, 10 years ago they just all wanted a degree!
Re: Agreed, but.
Not when the guy with the certificate gets hired and it turns out that if it wasn't on the test, he doesn't know it.
This is so true. I have been running a home lab of some kind since 1999. Mike actually trained me on VMware 3.5 :)
In addition to having a small home VMware 'production environment', I recently built a new desktop PC with 32GB of RAM. Using a couple of SSD's, I can easily lab many environments. Of course this was all at my own expense, but it will pay off in several ways over the longer term.
As a PAYE employee, training has always been very difficult to obtain, somehow employers seem to expect that you magically know everything about the next version of products before they are even released! If you are working in consultancy as I do, customers also (and rightly so) assume you should have top skills.
There are companies that love to not train employees on the basis that it lowers their mobility. A home lab is especially important to help you get yourself out of those shit-holes.
Well said. I was about to respond to the article with something "thanking" the author for making it harder for the rest of us who don't have $10k to sink into the hottest new computer hardware.
How about an Arduino and a laptop?
Maybe a Raspberry Pi with a handful of accessories.
Far more advanced than I
My wife despairs at the amount of parts, servers, towers full, empty, and in-between, domain up, domain down - as long as I don't lose her data (it was an honest mistake, dogs and kids interfering, bad command, really! I fsck.exe'd up and it was very successful lol)
Re: Far more advanced than I
Your wife should look after her own data and be responsible for her own backups.
Backing up and backup maintenance is a tedious bloody chore and it comes under the category of personal responsibility.
Hopefully this will not result in any marital disharmony.
That was a tad obvious, no ?
""The days of being sent on training courses is gone," he told the user groups. "The burden is now on you to get the skills and knowledge you need. It is assumed you will learn as you go."
Talk about open doors. I mean this has been an issue forever already which is also heavily depending on the company you work for and/or are involved with. The reason I consider this an open door is simple; most of the more skilled people I either know or have met have mostly gained their experience on their own. Sure; sometimes a training course can give you a good foundation to work on, but to really get into the subject you'll want to dive in on your own.
Hmm, could this be the reason why schools in the old days used to give us these tasks to do called "homework" ?
Naaah ;-)
There are all sorts of problems with having a home lab. The noise the damn things make is one of them, I used to have an HP N-Class at home, it wasn't so much noisy in other parts of the house, as it was quite noisy outside in the street when it was running. Fortunately someone took pity on me and lent me a spare corner in a data centre, so the rx7620, disk arrays, stack of other Itanium and ProLiant servers no longer have to live in the house. The 10 smaller Linux boxes still take up space.
I just wish the UPS didn't need a fan.
Please can we have a noise rating for all new systems tested :-)
Re: Argh!
You can rent a reasonably powerfully VPS for as little as 12 quid a month, and load it with the software of your choice.
It probably has a noisy fan, but as its in a sub basement in another city this should not bother 'we indoors. An added advantage is there are no cables for your significant other to trip over. It's so unfau when you get an ear bashing when they just crashed your system.
Re: Argh!
But what if you want to try running a VPS server of your own, even a leased dedicated server doesnt give you as much control as having a machine right next to you.
Also taking your own backups can be a pain, where as with the machine next to you, slap in usb drive.
Re: Argh!
But I need to practice doing things I can't do a VPS. Like running clusters full of virtual machines :-) why else would I own an HP rx7620 :-)
Re: Argh!
My concern tends to lean toward having to spend over $60k building such a lab. Considering how much enterprise class security devices cost I would need one hell of a pay raise if I'm expected to be building my own lab.
Re: Argh!
"why else would I own an HP rx7620"
Reminiscing about the good old days of Itanium when it might have turned out successful?
Re: Argh!
Nevermind this little thing called "real estate".
I live in a place where it's actually quite uncommon to have anything in your basement besides renters, because you can't afford the mortgage otherwise. And *that* is only if you have a detached house. Most people around these parts appear to be living in condos or townhouses. Put the rack in the living room? When pigs fly.
Re: Argh!
What would seem at a first glance as my 'living room' is actually half living room, half an unwalled space meant to be a third room. I have mostly used the latter space functionally as a "third room", and lo and behold, this is where all my IT gear lives. That includes my very first "home lab" which given that the hardware isn't top notch (and wasn't when I built it back in 2009) is now lagging. Though the 8Gb RAM helps.
These days, most of my "lab" resides in the 16Gb RAM, i5-powered MBP I take to work, which gives me the advantage of carrying my lab with me to work. For the stuff I use these days, VMs cover most of my needs.
The Catch-22 Secnario
When you boss makes you put some training (which he company will pay for) in your goals and said company keepy you far too busy to attend the training and thus gives your boss an opportunity to mark you down in your end of year review for 'not attending the training'.
The other reason for keeping your home lab is that many companies lock everything down so tight these days that actually installing a bit of sofware is like getting a bill making hard drugs legal through parliament. With your home server you are you own sysadmin.
In my last job, the IT dept finally admitted that some of us know more about the system we develop for that they did and gave us (very reluctantly) local admin rights on our dev machines.
Re: The Catch-22 Secnario
"In my last job, the IT dept finally admitted that some of us know more about the system we develop for that they did and gave us (very reluctantly) local admin rights on our dev machines."
Now you know what it feels like to be a user.
Re: The Catch-22 Secnario
" the IT dept finally admitted that some of us know more about the system we develop for that they did and gave us (very reluctantly) local admin rights on our dev machines."
What did you break first and how did they fix it?
Re: The Catch-22 Secnario
In my last job the IT dept gave me local admin rights for all the PCs on the factory floor because I could fix them when they couldn't. Technically I was a developer in a different dept. They used to phone me to suggest fixes for the office PCs too.
My current job is for a small company so I do a bit of everything and I decide who gets what access. :)
Re: The Catch-22 Secnario
The reason is that developers install all sorts of crap on their workstations and need to be re-installed every 3 months or so.
They aren't necessarily competent, they just think that they are.
It's been my MO since I was 10yo.
School was for things my mum wanted me to learn. I took care of the rest myself.
Luckily for most who will even consider having servers at home...
...the "Girlfriend impact" doesn't come into the equation ;)
Re: Luckily for most who will even consider having servers at home...
I would laugh if it wasn't true
Re: Luckily for most who will even consider having servers at home...
There are ways around it. Many NAS boxes are capable little servers. I have two HP boxes, a Mini running two debian VMs and a Mediasmart 495 (hardware hacked for decent chip and 8GB of RAM) running Windows Server 2012 with one extra 2012 VM for exchange and SQL.
These are quiet, quiet little boxes. Low-power, too. And the hot-swappable drives are a real bonus.
Re: Luckily for most who will even consider having servers at home...
...the "Girlfriend impact" doesn't come into the equation ;)
Well the wife won't let me have a girl friend so that's not a problem.
She does get a bit hacked off about all the computers in the house.
But she gets far more hacked off when any of the keys ones aren't working so she can't work.
Re: Luckily for most who will even consider having servers at home...
I would however suggest that for many of us, looking after work servers is much like having kids.
They are both expensive, keep you up late at night occasionally, have temper tantrums and require you to spend time with them after work and at weekends.
Seriously though, who hasn't got a bunch of equipment at home too play with? I wouldn't say I have a "home lab" but I do have a few bits of equipment that ended up coming home to play with instead of being binned.
Re: Luckily for most who will even consider having servers at home...
Why would wives be an issue? Just have a den / home office / man cave.
If they aren't completely mindless they might even appreciate where you're coming from.
Idiot sexist
Sexist for obvious reasons that he thinks only blokes would have such an interest, and idiot for choosing to splash 870 a month on what at that rate is no longer a home lab but a personal obsession. I've run servers at home since 1995 but don't think they've run me.
Mixed feelings about the sentiment he expresses though. Many in technology are in it out of interest anyway and enjoy the pace of change, so doing extra-curricula stuff outside of work is more hobby than intended for the somewhat single-minded reason of making oneself saleable.
Re: Idiot sexist
I assume Mike isn't reliant on a typical computer industry salary (and hasn't been for sometime) and hence the 870 a month is of no consequence to him.
For most people 870 a month would go a long way to paying the mortgage on a half decent house.
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Thought y'all might like to see miniatures in action on a new map a buddy and I put together:
My friend's miniatures are generally more complete... (Klingons with just base color are mine.. though I really like the Base Color I ended up with, the Kzinti and Hydrans - also just base coated are mine, the Fed CC and Gorn CA/BC - more completely painted but not yet decaled are mine... the completed Klingons and Lyran are his).
The map is actually a somewhat famous image a friend (not the gaming buddy) of mine took awhile back... with the Hubble. No lie, she's an astrophysicist who sometimes gets to point the big scopes for her research. The image has appeared in numerous books and was even the cover of a calendar awhile back that I saw in some chain bookstore.
Just a 'staged' picture of some miniatures we'd painted, on the new map.
The good guys in a mixed fleet battle we fought as the first use of the map. The Kzinti is kind of hiding behind the Feds... By far my favorite picture of my Fed CA.. The Fed CL was painted by my friend.
The bad guys.... (not because of their race but because of their player... ie, not me!)
In the middle of the game... The USS Carolina ended up a hulk after this pass... Both Klingons damaged but not crippled, the USS Excalibur with minor damage, and the Kzinti and Lyran came out unscathed. Final result was in favor of the bad guys...
Another angle of the mayhem...
A lizard (Gorn CA+) vs cat (Kzinti BC - Y175 refit) fight... very ahistorical, though it's generated a seed idea for a possible scenario. I'm the Gorn. This is after the first battle pass, both with shield damage and no internals... him with more, but my plasma has been used up and is two turns away from being fully recovered.. one turn if I fast load.
Another angle... The combination of position and map makes it look like the Kzinti is a Mauler.
Gorn close up... Yup, I went with green.. Next Gorn I'll try a silver-green look...
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Actually, these photos are some I posted myself on Facebook.. Not an issue is it? I'll send these along to Jean in the next day or so.
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You know what might be cool? A clear plastic sheet with a hex grid that could be placed over various space pics. This way maps could be refreshed periodically.
It might be the same cost to simply print the hex grid on space pictures...I don't know.
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Looks like the links to the images failed (hopefully only temporarily).
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Can you tell us a little more about how you made the map? (What you did, where you printed it, etc?)
Been looking for something like that since I went to Megahex (I used to love the color map they had for the 1/2in counters and missed not having it on MH).
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I think the cost would be the same to make a clear hex map and individual pictures. Actually a bit more because you'd have to print one extra map total (the hex map).
It was pretty simple... I used PowerPoint. Went into Page Setup and set the page size to what I wanted (I forget the exact dimensions, but I kept the plotter size in mind at the local print shop). Found the highest resolution version of the image I wanted, dropped it into power point and resized to fit the slide. Then I created a hex map over top of it. There are probably easier ways, but I dropped one hex from the premade shapes onto the map, resized it, changed the line color and made the interior transparent, and then copied it, moved it to line up, grouped the two hexes together, copied the group, moved it to line up, wash, rinse and repeat.. once the hex groups got big enough I could copy whole lines at once, and then groups of lines, and it made things go quickly.
After having it printed, the friend laminated it.. It was probably a two person job, as you can see from some of the wrinkles. Half of the map is really smooth, the other half not so much, so we'll likely reprint it and take our time on laminating it properly.
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New game in progress... Started as a classic Plasma Ballet (me with a Romulan King Eagle and a Sparrowhawk-A, opponent with a Gorn CC and an HDD). Each side got a random reinforcement, Kzinti MCC for my opponent and a D5C for me. He's taken the worst of the battle but only has a handful of internals on his CC so far.
All models painted by my opponent.
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Again, please send such beautiful photos to Jean for ADB's facebook page. No problem if you also put them on your page.
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Will do... She's already got a batch she's been doling out.
Pointed this site to the guy responsible for the painting of most of the minis, hopefully he'll get a couple of great shots of his two Lyrans soon (he has a better lens and lighting conditions).
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From a home grown scenario we're testing.. Part of a Fed CVA group trying to recover sensitive equipment and personnel from a top secret research base. Ships are in multiple stages of paint jobs...
(The Fed CVA is merely primed, the Fed DDE needs decals, and the C9 is just base coated). All ships except the CVA and C9 were painted by my friend, Peter Landry.
The fighter represents a flight of 6 F-14s. And yes, the shuttles are all Fed (in spite of having a Romulan or Gorn paint job).
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Instant queues is a terrible reason to go tank.
That, and questing is probably faster anyway.
So ever since TBC always played ranged DPS: Lock and Spriest. Been thinking about moving to a new server and just rerolling from fresh. Figured a tank would be best because I can just use insta queue LFDs to get fast exp as well as gear and gold.
Just wondering which tank would be easier for a first timer. I guess with 500% threat mod they all can hold agro just fine. Id prefer something that doesnt require me to remap my entire keyboard and have to learn 40 keybinds just to play. I did try a prot pally on the last PTR doing some 5 mans and some raids but I didnt really like playing paladin much.
Instant queues is a terrible reason to go tank.
That, and questing is probably faster anyway.
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Well, the above statement aside, Paladins are probably the easiest tank class to roll for a beginnner. This is of course very debateable, but i'll give you a run down of the cons of other classes from what i know.
Warrirs: I actually started on one of these as prot, so it isn't impossible. If you do end up doing max level contnt though you will find yourself with about 2 dozen buttons keybound and memorized. This ranges from attack rotation to situational cooldowns/utilities (shouts, HT, HL, sheild abilites, ect) to on use trinkets.
Druid: Now my knowledge of how these turn out at higher levels is limited, my druid is barely finishing classic content (lvl 50 something) But i do have constant annoyance with lack of rage upkeep. And it can be slightly dificult at very low levels due to lack of ability options, but it's been so long since i leveled my warrior, that might be true of all classe at low level.
DK: This is very controversal, people generally either love or hate playing a DK. Personally i like the playstyle, but in a pintch rune cd's can be a pain in the ass, you could call that a DK's achilies heel, other than their lack of a sheild.
Paladin: Pretty straightfoward class, versatile and able to hold itself up for a little bit if situation requires due to self heals, going out of mana rarely happens due to your CS giving you mana. I know there have been time playing one where i didn't like the mechanics of certain abilities but that was just mostly because i spent so much time on my warrior.
In terms of learning, DKs probably have the steepest learning curve since active CDs are such a big part. At least for now they're unique in that respect.
But all tanking is pretty simple now, at least through the leveling process. Good gear and a moderate level of ability usage and you should be good with any of them.
An introduction into WarTanking (no longer updated as I've retired from WoW - the concepts will still be mostly accurate but the numbers no longer will be.) - http://www.tankspot.com/showthread.p...101-The-Primer
I'd say DKs are fairly easy to play, but hard to play well. Once you get death and decay, tanking becomes fairly simple... in fact, I wouldn't bother doing much tanking until you got that. As someone that's played a DOT caster, you'd probably find some of the mechanics fairly familiar, although the DOTs for a blood DK are not the most important tool in the arsenal - and in 4.3 they will be significantly easier to manage. What makes it harder is making use of all the tools in your kitbag - which is what makes the difference between a squishy DK that no-one likes and a beefcake DK that never dies. If you are doing fairly basic content, you can get by as a squishy DK long enough to find out whether you like playing as a tank or not.
I have 3 tanks I play regulary... first time tank I would reconmend Pally, those are by fair the easiest (I havent played druid @ 85 yet so I cannot speak on their behalf) then comes warrior, then DK.
I have both a 85 pally and DK. I really hated the DK and thats why I rolled my paladin. First people said I was hard as hell to heal even in 360 gear with 120% absorb from deathstrike even only doing normal heroics. My pally was doing Zuls in 346s and no one ever said anything. I have actually had healers drop group before first pull because Im tanking as a DK. I even think the same when Im going holy and up pops a DK tank. I just hope I brought lots of water.
Also theres times where someone might accidentally pull an extra pack or you get a pat that adds and you just have no runes available and DnD is on CD. Even if blow blood tap and hit a blood boil its such terrible damage if anyone starts AoE the mobs immediately go back to them. With my pally i can just hammer of righteous spam, drop consecrate, and holy wrath. With my DK I just prey DnD comes off cooldown before the DPS are dead and they turn to the healer.
Messed around with a Bear during 4.2 PTR for a good bit. I did a lot zul 5 mans and raids using the premade. It was pretty much spam my thrash/swipe macro and used glyphed maul and watch TV. I honestly think Bear is easier than Pally. Also gearing bear is easier since you can get by with some pvp gear. Not to mention you never have to respec to quest.
Last edited by liliciamgp; 09-06-2011 at 01:54 PM.
But well back to topic: roll druid.
1) probably least buttons to play at it's full potential
2) leveling is a blast, put mangle on your hotkey 1-0 and don't you dare pushing something else unless grouping or hitting 85
3) quick learnable solo and multi target priority/"rotation" list
4) easiest to gear by far, wearing 371 pvp gear is as good as wearing full ZA gear and almost on par with tier 11.


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Part 1: Prologue: Andante con moto
Part 2: Scherzo: Presto
Part 3a: Tema. Maestoso e moderato molto
Part 3b: Variation I. Molto sostenuto
Part 3c: Variation II. Con espressione poco rubato
Part 3d: Variation III. Più mosso
Part 3e: Variation IV. Allegretto
Part 3f: Variation V. Molto vivace
Part 3g: Variation VI. Con fuoco, agitato
Part 3h: Variation VII. Con moto, energico
Part 3i: Variation VIII. Andante sostenuto
Part 3j: Variation IX. Andantino ben moderato
Part 3k: Variation X. Finale. Allegro molto
Paderewski's performance of the concerto caused quite a sensation in New York. There was such a demand for tickets for the concert on 4 March that an open rehearsal had to be added on 2 March. At the concert on 4 March the audience refused to leave. It was only after innumerable bows, accompanied by tremendous applause, that the hall once more dimmed its lights and let Paderewski, who was breaking the Symphony Society's rule forbidding soloists to play encores at orchestral concerts, return to the piano and play Stojowski's Chant d'amour.
The New York Tribune's appraisal of the concerto read:
The Stojowski Prelude, Scherzo and Variations Mr Paderewski has played before, and a rehearing emphasized the unusual beauties of this composition. It is not merely music for the virtuoso, though it is music of extraordinary difficulties; it is also music uplifted by a true melodic inspiration, shot through with much color and filled with incisive and unexpected rhythms. The orchestral accompaniment is in itself music of great beauty, yet always properly subordinated to that of the solo instrument. Needless to say, Mr Paderewski gave his pupil's work a performance of high excellence and exquisite euphony.
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Without reservation it is excellent music in itself and excellently written for the solo instrument. The Prologue is a trifle diffuse, but the Scherzo is a brilliant piece of writing, and the theme of the finale has genuine beauty and impressiveness. Some of the variations might with advantage be omitted. With some pruning the piece ought to become a welcome addition to the not too unhackneyed orchestral repertoire of the pianist.
Stojowski, however, may have taken this criticism to heart. When the composer performed the concerto once more with the New York Philharmonic under Willem Van Hoogstraten's direction in Carnegie Hall on 16 November 1924, the sixth variation was cut from the last movement.
The concerto is played without pauses between movements. The Prologue (Andante con moto) displays the composer's resources, imagination and prize-winning contrapuntal skill. In a review of the Boston concert, Philip Hale of The Boston Herald wrote: 'The Prologue is really a first movement. It is, on the whole, the best constructed and the most expressive.' Of the dazzling second movement Scherzo (Presto), he wrote:
Stojowski's concerto has many pages that at once win favor. It is tuneful and the themes are easily grasped; the Scherzo is vivacious and a free use of pulsatile instruments keeps the attention going … The Scherzo contains much that is only agreeable tinkling, but the swiftness, a certain grace, and a sparkling instrumental dress insure immediate popularity.
In his description of the last movement's theme (Maestoso e moderato molto) and ten variations, Louis C Elson of the Boston Daily Advertiser wrote:
The theme of the finale is a splendid one, both intrinsically and for variation purposes. But we scarcely like the variation form for a concerto finale; it generally puts ingenuity in the fore, and poetry in the background. Nevertheless, these variations were in excellent contrast of power, rhythm, and general treatment, and the final pianissimo ending came as a surprise.
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The F major Trio is said by Saint-Saëns's early biographers to have been inspired by a holiday in the Pyrenees. There is certainly a fresh, 'open-air' character to its principal theme, but its charm is achieved subtly, by one of those deliberate confusions between two-time and three-time. Fauré, his favourite pupil at the École Niedermeyer, was often to use such ambiguities to make his music rhythmically fluid. But Saint-Saëns creates a much more naïve, down-to-earth impression, like a child who can't quite decide whether to skip or to run. This delightful theme dominates most of the movement, though Saint-Saëns the pianist from time to time bursts out with brilliant figurations, sometimes flamboyant, sometimes delicate.
The second movement has a solemn opening theme intoned over a drone. Anyone who has encountered the folk music of France's mountain regions will know just what Saint-Saëns had in mind: this is the sound of the hurdy-gurdy or vielle, complete with a characteristic tug of the rosined wheel at the end of each phrase. After this rustic opening, the music becomes more rhapsodic in character. Then a pianissimo melody, first on violin and answered by the cello, suggests a dreamy reminiscence of the hurdy-gurdy, and after a build-up to a climax the opening theme returns, with a gently percussive new element in the piano. There is another, briefer and faster, dreamy episode, then a final return to the hurdy-gurdy, and the movement ends as it began.
There is a rustic air to the Scherzo too, in which two ideas alternate. The first has a nonchalant, tongue-in-cheek character, beginning with strings pizzicato and piano off-beat. The second idea takes the off-beat accents and makes a stamping peasant dance of them. Both of these ideas are then elaborated, with the piano adding a witty running bass to the first, and flinging dazzling arpeggios into the second. The movement finishes as nonchalantly as it began, with the violin suggesting another touch on the hurdy-gurdy just before it ends.
The same naïve spirit is maintained in the finale—it is difficult to imagine another composer in the 1860s beginning the movement with so simple a gesture. At first there seems to be nothing more than an exchange of rising and falling intervals between cello and violin, with a rippling accompaniment in the piano. But Saint-Saëns is playing with our expectations. After a few bars, it becomes clear that the pattern in the piano is forming a melody, and the cello and violin are merely accompanying it. This half-hidden melody turns out to be one of the most important elements in the movement, and Saint-Saëns returns to it at several points—at a quiet moment in the centre of the movement, where the piano plays the theme simply, again towards the end as a climax builds, and in the final bars, where this melody is speeded up to form a witty conclusion. Add a vigorous second theme, more of Saint-Saëns's characteristically glittering piano arpeggios, and a great deal of interaction between these different elements, and the result is a movement of irresistible flair and dash.
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Obito is fav.
because his ability's are more unique then Madara's.
now is madara but when obito was tobi he was cooler.
Cool ?
Madara. He just sat back and enjoyed the show.
They're both cool in their own ways
Obito back in the day was awesome, what with the whole Rin dying and his combat style and all, all of the emotion involved with his character is just amazing.
Madara on the other hand is a legend, and legends tend to get fans excited.
I would say that Obito beats Madara out by a hair but Madara is still very very cool
Seating casually when the most OP thing in the NV awakens requires a certain level of coolness, even if you're immortal.
obito seems cool :D
madara is badass.
Madara is definitely "cooler" in a sense of calm an confident. Obito trying to destroy the world because of a girl is really cliche and lame. I loved the way he fought in 605 though.
Obito is cooler
Madara because he dropes meteores from the sky
Tobi is cooler
Obito. Hope this doesn't make me some sort of fan, I just like him.. That's all.
Obito, in my opinion.
Madara is strong, he's a beast and he can fodderize just about anyone but that doesn't make him cool. His motives are selfish and hate based.
Obito on the other hand; his motives are based on something he wants more then the world itself. He just wants a world with Rin and Kakashi where Kakashi didn't just break their promise, but killed her himself. His motives are fueled on love. He will do ANYTHING to the world he inhabits currently to make this happen, and I think that's pretty cool.
Madara is cooler because he is a zombie and he was no blood flow therefore he is naturally cooler than obito.
Obito. But not because he is special. It is because Madara is boring as ****.
This is Cooler
and he is more badass then both obito and madara
But really, madara's "I don't care" demeanor is really cool, but obito is much more relatable
Originally Posted by peteriscoo
This is Cooler
and he is more badass then both obito and madara
But really, madara's "I don't care" demeanor is really cool, but obito is much more relatable
LOL that was funny.
Obito was cooler with his mask, without it, he is just a whiny little, trash talking *****.
when he was Tobi he was straight up bawssss
They are both annoying.
Obito seems to get hit by Kakashi's words more and more. His facial expression shows he tries to scream loudly so Kakashi's words do not harm him. Pretty please, not another talknojutsu victim.
Madara is cool but so far, has shown no personality at all, except for being cocky. Why does he want eternal peace and a dream where everyone is stuck? He hasn't said it. The whole 'I do it because I can' doesn't satisfy people with answers.
Madara is cooler.
But I can relate a bit to Tobi.
I liked Obito a with the mask, the way he was and the mystery about who he was. But ones the mask was off I liked him even more! But I still preferred him with the mask on.
But of those 2 I will have to vote for Madara!
Madara is a true antagonist while Obito is a protagonist who was just brainwashed. Obito is cooler, but I hope he turns good again.
Madara to me, hes just so trolltastic..especially when he was fighting Kages..he made good jokes. 1v5 = Fair..or 25vs5?
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The Warrior Clutch Goal Stick is the entry goalie stick offered by Warrior.
The Clutch stick features a traditional durable wood construction with solid balance. Made in Canada, the Clutch comes equipped with a laminated shaft, and glass laminated birch paddle and blade. The glass laminate adds rigidity, and durability.
The Warrior Clutch goalie stick is a great stick for the price, offering very nice performance for anyone playing up to the intermediate levels of ice hockey.
- Model Year: 2012
- Model Number: CL2103
- Heritage: Warrior Clutch
- Level of Player: (Junior)
- Roller: Up to Advanced
- Ice: Up to Intermediate
- Sizing Guidelines:
- Regular = Stick used in the Right hand
- Full Right = Stick used in the Left hand
- Construction:
- Multi laminated wood construction
- Made in Canada
- Shaft:
- Laminated birch core
- Paddle:
- Glass-laminated birch core
- Blade:
- Glass-laminated birch core
- Grip:
- Smooth wood finish
- Weight:
- 998 Grams (Based on a 26" paddle)
- Curve / Curve Type / Face
- Emery / Mid /
- Paddle Sizing Guidelines:
- Warrior Measurement = Universal Measurement
- 21" = 22.5"
- Universal Measurement is taken from the top of the handle to the first point of contact with the playing surface (heel).
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The Warrior Swagger ST Goal Stick is Warrior's strongest stick on the market. By featuring an aspen core handle, thick molded polyurethane foam core and aircraft grade veneer front handle, the ST is manufactured to be a tank.