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Originally Posted by Xanthe
Alternative+ ★Baldy..+ Cutie Pie Lucifer Mai+ ★Wind..+ XxFallenUchihaxX xXNocturnusXx+ ZoroOP+ ~xtsukune~+
This page has had 8,455 visits
u need to separate us..>_>"
-Itachi- random dude
Dead Bones B fake gobi
ElementJnr dunno who he is
Foxnaruto da fuq is he
Howard no idea who this is
Hyakk no idea who thisis
Jacob Moore Friendly pet.
NineVision random student
Norman Jayden no idea who this is
ZoroOP+ apparantly on my friendlist, yet no idea who this is
-Yard-The Great Yardstar..:noc:
Dead Bones B- my close friend here on NB..
★Dr.Dave-My New best friend and a really cool guy..
Dupa-my funny friend..^^
Hellsbadass- my funny and cool boyfriend..
marhuto- cool and sweet guy to talk to also a friend.
sk8er- sweet guy..
SomeRandomDude- my idoit of a friend..
Toku- my friend..
Babii Cake+- my new stalker :D lol i kid... i know you like to stare at the profile pic i cnnot staring at it too
Caaandy- didn't know that i was a rapist on nb
Excite- spammer
Foxnaruto- no clue
JiraiyaEroSennin- student
Jokey+ i might now him
Mai+- mai biker/ police officer *kiss*
Manami+- my friend
mangekyo byakugan
Better. No idea.
Dead Bones B Fake gobi yet again?
Foxnaruto No idea, again.
Hyakk >.> Who are you people?!
Jacob Moore Pet.
Mai Someone who posts on this thread a lot o-o
NineVision student
Norman Jayden dunno.
★Tokun Derp.
ZoroOP Dunno.
+Kyon++ - Good mate.
Caaandy - Posted something on my profile.
Caliburn+ - Does one hellva job around here, is nice. But I hope I haven't done anything wrong.
Daki Kibe+ - The best friend, talks everyday.
Foxnaruto - Don't know?
Frank Uzumaki+ - Mate.
Kuroi Honoo+ Writes nice Fanfics.
mcchikeneater - Posted something on my profile.
Naruto3462 - PM'd me.
Talha52+ - Friend.
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99minutes+ Babii Cake+ Caaandy+
+ Iqus marhuto+ Mikuru san Strata Spartan yama
This page has had 1,140 visits.
Originally Posted by sk8er
Bisma+ Someone very important to me
Blooming flower+ a friend, who always forgets me
Crimson Trickster+ Ah, someone nice to talk to who agrees with me on the whole naruto deal with the chicks!
★Dr.Dave+ a friend who wants to be a best friend but we don't talk much
Gilda Idk this person
Howard :confused:
★Ouacus+ he added me idk him
SasuNaruLove+ She's lives 4hrs away from where I live! she cool she cool!
tunevstoon :shrug:
I didn't forget u, silly
★-Mewtwo-+ Real life brother.
Akademic Don't know.
Dead Bones B Don't know.
★Dr.Dave Famous
★Kerrah Don't know.
Mattobi Don't know.
Mercy Don't know.
★Ouacus Don't know
Two Don't know.
Uzumaki Naruta+ Princess of NB.
-Kamishiro- GFX'd
-Scaze- GFX'd
ElementJnr ?
Norman Jayden+ Standard.
Omnom Snorlax.
ricko20 ?
Sominus ?
Xylon Some hotshot i guess..
Recent Visitors
The last 10 visitor(s) to this page were:
-Andy-+ Andy! It's been like two years, rofl. PS. I'm not his fangirl. >_>
bahram Gave me +rep.
Caliburn o_o The second mod to visit my profile in two days... what have I done wrong? ;_;
Gary777+ A friend.
Gingka Uzumaki+ Future-Malleo! D
★Kerrah+ Is jealous of my love for some other Arab.
Nafan.+ My best friend~ I practically own his profile because I spam it so much. ^_^
Raidenuser+ A good friend~
Rihari Just started chatting; seems nice ^^
shinobi18+ A friend~
This page has had 16,756 visits
The last 10 visitor(s) to this page were:
Caliburn - A mod? And without a hello? I'm a fan of Caliburn, but not sure why he visited.
Daki Kibe - Boss. Convo.
Escorpiius+ -Awesome guy. Convo.
Gingka Uzumaki -Weegee be creepin.
Kuroi Honoo -Cool, convo.
mist01 -???
Nafan.+ -Boss
Norman Jayden - ??
Scarface -??
zureikat - ??
The last 10 visitor(s) to this page were:
+Kyon++ Good Friend D
-Kamishiro-+ Friend
★Baldy..+ Jonathan?
Bisma+ O_o
ChrisWolf+ Dunno.
Michael92+ Friend
mist01+ I don't know this member.
yama+ Good friend.
Zawar+ Annoying person
~Jellal.F~+ D
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GoodBoy M
Marnix Uchiha+
Scorps TouShIRO+
Uchiha seeker+
~Captain Bravo~+
its feels a bit creepy to see mods on ur list really :meh:
DeathDreamer- Hmm hello O.o
Melizzle+- Sweetest girl on NB.
Naruto3462 -Yo dog.
PAPPAGUMASTER HMm don't know you
phoenixforcexD -Awesome
Sikk- No idea
Talha52+Hii ^.^
xXNocturnusXx...O.O woah
★~Mew~ ^.^
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Originally Posted by Dr.Dave
Caaandy Vmed and a nice person
Daki Kibe+ Map Kibe ;D a great friend
marvinkid+ a good friend
Mikuru san+
★Ouacus+ a great friend
PUNK Vmed
shinobi18+ besties
tunevstoon ??
0Uzumaki Naruta+ nice person and a good friend
wannabebetter+ nice person and a good friend
Originally Posted by itachi49
Bisma+ Awesome friend and nice person
DeathDreamer+ Vmed
HenrikXXX i don't remember
marhuto i don't remember
PainIsGod i don't remember
phantomlord22 i don't remember
Sage of Darkness Nice and cool person
susan0 nice friend in forum game
ThatOneChick+ awesome friend and nice person
Uzumaki Naruta+ best friend and nice person
Originally Posted by Dr.Dave
Aito+ a good friend
Bisma+ a good friend
Daki Kibe+ Map Kibe ;D a great friend
elmage ??
Felicia4 ??
Mai+ D my new best friend
Mikuru san+
Uzumaki Naruta+ a good friend that i only talk to when im bored
wannabebetter+ a good friend
★~Jazzy~ a good friend
lol :izuna:
Originally Posted by Oasis
★-Mewtwo-+ Real life brother.
Akademic Don't know.
Dead Bones B Don't know.
★Dr.Dave Famous
★Kerrah Don't know.
Mattobi Don't know.
Mercy Don't know.
★Ouacus Don't know
Two Don't know.
Uzumaki Naruta+ Princess of NB.
Thanks :D
The last 10 visitor(s) were:
Caaandy VMed :D Nice person :D
★Dr.Dave+ Someone who reps me a lot and VM me only when he´s bored :D
hokutoshinken VMed :D Don´t know much about this member :D
★Kira.. Um...VMed before but don´t know this member :D
mist01+ Friend in NB and FB :D Nice person :D
Norman Jayden Um...Saw this member before but no idea :D
sage naruto 123 No idea :D
sk8er+ VMed :D A nice person and friend :D
Uchiha Prophet+ Nice person :D
XxFallenUchihaxX+ Friend at Forum GAmes :D
Has had 2,708 visits
Recent Visitors
The last 10 visitor(s) to this page were:
-Andy-+ Andy. :3 He became nice. ;O
-Angel-+ A very good friend, one of the nicer people I know on NB. :3
AMIIIT Stalker! For reals. He's stalking me for real.
★Dr.Dave+ A very good friend. :3
Melizzle+ A very good friend. :3
Nafan.+ My best friend.
Pesh D My new friend, from a long time ago. xD
Raidenuser+ A good friend.
Xylon+ I am his ice-cream sandwich slave. x_x
This page has had 16,843 visits
Gingka Uzumaki+ Is stalking my conversation. Please stop.
Michael92+ ...
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Last edited by Daki Kibe; 02-28-2012 at 11:29 PM.
I never seem to visit anyone these days D:
Originally Posted by Uzumaki Naruta
The last 10 visitor(s) were:
Caaandy VMed :D Nice person :D
★Dr.Dave+ Someone who reps me a lot and VM me only when he´s bored :D
hokutoshinken VMed :D Don´t know much about this member :D
★Kira.. Um...VMed before but don´t know this member :D
mist01+ Friend in NB and FB :D Nice person :D
Norman Jayden Um...Saw this member before but no idea :D
sage naruto 123 No idea :D
sk8er+ VMed :D A nice person and friend :D
Uchiha Prophet+ Nice person :D
XxFallenUchihaxX+ Friend at Forum GAmes :D
Has had 2,708 visits
Bisma+ a good friend and my rival
Felicia4 ??
Mai+ my new best friend D
marvinkid+ a good friend
Mikuru san+
★Ouacus+ a great friend D
shinobi18+ best buddy D
sk8er+ him and i are going to be best friends
ThatOneChick+ a great friend
~Yuuki Kiryu~ ??
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-Andy- (Cool guy,Artist as well and An opportunist .-.)
Foxnaruto (?
fuuton ()
Gingka Uzumaki+ (Ranga)
Hansom+ (Cool guy,Artist,Mod in fan art challenge)
Konoha4ever (Do not know who this is)
Mai+ (Sweetest,Cutest girl on NB.Queen of my world )
NineVision (No idea who this is)
Norman Jayden (The rape singer .-.,Cool guy)
shinobi18 (Erm ?)
Escorpiius :confused:
Flame Alchemist :confused:
Iqus+ :confused:
kakashi owns all play him in Uns 2
Konoha4ever+ :confused:
Rihari+ :confused:
ThatOneChick+ :D
Uchiha Madara. :confused:
81,383 visits
-Blizzard-- a new friend but a really nice guy...
Crocodile- a really nice guy ..my sunshine..
Daki Kibe-cute and sweet girl also my friend..
devil naruto-really nice guy
★Dr.Dave-my best friend..
Hellsbadass-O.O Trouble..
Manami-meh sis..
marhuto-a reall y nice guy..^_^
sk8er- a good friend..
My recent visitors are the same :d for the past two months...visit ma profile! Xd
Daki Kibe+
mangekyo byakugan
Norman Jayden
Originally Posted by Hellsbadass
Daki Kibe+
mangekyo byakugan
Norman Jayden
but i visted ur profile to.. i was kicked out..why those idiots..:mad:
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text: Items 13 to 24 of 58 total Previous 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 Next View: 12 / 24 / 48 Nice Kit By Jimmy on 11/10/2013 Jimmy would recommend this product to a friend I should have purchased one of these a long time ago. Very easy to install when you follow the BRS video. Do yourself a favor and buy the RO tube cutter they sell too. Made the job easier and it's nice to have around. works!! By JACKIE on 10/30/2013 JACKIE would recommend this product to a friend After forgetting to turn off the RODI, and having water all over my floor, I gave in and purchased this set. I wish I had known that my RODI plus with Chlorimine already had most of these parts, All I basically needed was the float valve and the check valve. No more floods! By Mike H on 10/14/2013 Mike H would recommend this product to a friend Finally! I added this to my BRS RO/DI 5 stage unit and I no longer have to remember to shut the system off! I've flooded my place about...4-5x just because I would forget the thing is on. 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The float began leaking and BRS customer support stated that they never guaranteed that the "float" would be the only item needed to insure the water was turned off. I added a shutoff valve (ball valve), that was suggested by BRS. That worked for awhile, but required manually turning off the ball valve. After another month or two, the shutoff valve that's included with the kit, stopped working properly and doesn't completely close! Even with turning the valve off completely, from the good water. The water continues to run at approximately 20psi out the waste water line. Wasted $25 on this product! Must have By James on 6/29/2013 James would recommend this product to a friend After warping the entire hallways lamanite flooring I decided to purchase the kit with auto shut off valve. Works perfectly and no more warp floors. 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I only needed the float valve. There are no instructions on how to hook this up. Great Kit By Mark on 5/2/2013 Mark would recommend this product to a friend Very easy to install and works well! One for the RO storage container and Get another for your Top off! By Kevin on 4/18/2013 Kevin would recommend this product to a friend I ordered two of these. One for my RO storage container that stores water strictly to be transferred to mix with salt, or used for cleaning. The second I installed in a 5 gallon bucket and used a T off my "clean" water blue lines. This way the system will run when either container is empty but the float will stop it from over flowing. The beauty in this system is that even when my Top of container is full it will still fill my storage container. And the floats are small so they will fit perfectly in a bucket! Works Great By Jack on 4/15/2013 Jack would recommend this product to a friend After experiencing my first "oops, I forgot!" moment, I decided to purchase this kit. Though it first came w/ a faulty check valve, BRS promptly replaced it and it's been working smoothly every since. Just be aware that it could take up to 5 minutes for the waste water to shut off after the float valve is triggered. Write Your Own Review You're reviewing: Auto Shut Off Kit for Reverse Osmosis Systems *How do you rate this product? *Would you recommend this product to a friend? Yes No *Nickname *Summary of Your Review *Review Submit Review

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The Conference of the Parties (COP), at its seventeenth session, adopted the guidelines contained in decision 2/CP.17,
annex III, for the
preparation of biennial update reports (BURs) from Parties not included in Annex I to the Convention
(non-Annex I Parties). These guidelines outline the objectives and scope of the information to be reported.
Also by decision 2/CP.17, the COP decided that non-Annex I Parties, consistent with their capabilities and
the level of support provided for reporting, should submit their first BUR by December 2014, and that the
least developed country Parties and small island developing States may submit BURs at their discretion.
It also decided that non-Annex I Parties shall submit a BUR every two years, either as a summary of parts of
their national communication in the year in which the national communication is submitted or as a stand-alone
update report.
Recognizing the important role of the CGE in facilitating technical advice and support for non-Annex I
Parties, the COP, by decision 18/CP.18, extended for a term of one year, the Consultative Group of Experts on
National Communications from Parties not included in Annex I to the Convention (CGE). In that same decision,
the COP requested the CGE to develop at its first meeting in 2013, a work programme for 2013, taking into
account the current and future needs of Parties not included in Annex I to the Convention.
The CGE, in response to that request, prepared its work programme at the first meeting in 2013 and agreed to
focus on providing technical support to non-Annex I parties, in the preparation of their first biennial
update reports. The group recognized that the existing updated CGE training materials were relevant to the
BUR, but the group agreed to develop supplementary training materials in accordance with the BUR guidelines,
to address areas not adequately covered in the existing updated training materials, namely:
1. Institutional arrangements for the preparation of national communications and BURs on a continuous
presentation (282 kB)
handbook (692 kB)
Mitigation actions and their effects (1921 kB) , including associated methodologies and
3. Constraints and gaps and related financial, technical and capacity needs, including a description of
the support needed and received and information on the level of support received to enable the preparation
and submission of BURs.
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further improve and align the materials to the needs of non-Annex I Parties.
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to provide technical support to non-Annex I Parties on how to report information in their BURs, pursuant to
annex III to decision 2/CP.17, by using training materials developed by the CGE and to seek feedback on the
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materials respond effectively, to the technical assistance needs of non-Annex I Parties.
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Le nouveau Fender Bronco 40 est un ampli compact et léger qui produit de nombreuses sonorités conçues pour vous inspirer. Disposant dès sa sortie d'usine de plusieurs sons d'amplis présélectionnés et d'effets intégrés, il sera le compagnon idéal des bassistes qui veulent s'exercer chez eux ou enregistrer. Avec le logiciel gratuit Fender Fuse™ et sa connectique USB, il vous est désormais facile de créer, modifier, stocker et partager vos sons. Le Bronco 40 est un outil précieux pour le bassiste qui aime disposer de plusieurs possibilités sonores pour booster sa créativité.
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I love this amp, and all the presets and tones you can get out of it if you mess around with the preset knob. My only complaint is that the amp didn't come with a footswitch and I can't find one anywhere.
jaclop099 owns this item
Great modelling amp every sound you could need, used the latest technology to give you the sounds you want, and make it easy to find new sounds with the use of the Fuse software. Not only is it good for practice, it inspires you to write with its vast array of sounds, and can be easily recorded via the USB or output.
My only complaints are the power cord supplied in the UK was a US one, so I had to get another, that is poor. Also the foot switch is not supplied in the box.
leddenton owns this item
I bought this item about 18 month ago along with a Squier CAR Precision Standard Special Bass and some other accessories and for a nice price of 199 Euro. The amplifier simulations of this modelling combo are really great and the possibilities of sound modifications seem to be almost unlimited thanks to the Fuse software. It also offers a USB-audio interface. The 40 Watts are enough for practice, the living room and even some smaller gigs. Combined with a PA and the XLR-output everything else is possible too. It has only one drawback: The Fuse Software needs a display of 1024 x 768 pixels - a small convenient netbook offers only 1024 x 600 max. So Fuse is not for netbooks. And there is no Ipad/Iphone app wich would really be an overwhelming, perfect, mobile solution.
sjw66 owns this item
I got this amp as a christmas present two years ago, and it sounded amazing. I still do love the way it sounds, and the effects options/ 8 different amp settings are very cool. My only issue is the lack of durabilty, it's not built to last. After only 3 months the speaker blew, and the headphone jack has come off, and stopped working. I did get it fixed from a friend of mine, and replaced the speaker with the warranty still in effect. So now that it's fixed it sounds as good as it did before. Also, if you're playing with headphones, I'd highly recommend the Sennheiser RS-180. They sound amazing plugged into this amp!
I've had the Bronco 40 for a couple of months now & I have to say I've yet to have a dull moment as this amp is a blast. You get 3 banks (Red, Orange & Green) & 8 amp models, & an on board tuner, a compressor & lots of effects.
This amp keeps you busy & it keeps you creative. Then there's Fender Fuse & Fender Ampli tube ... hook the Bronco 40 to your computer through the USB port with the provided cable & (as they say) this is where the fun begins.
I bought this amp to use as a practice amp, & to occasionally record ideas & riffs, and I really enjoy using Fender Fuse.
The Bronco 40 also has an XLR jack in the back of this amp so you could run it through a PA & use it for small intimate gigs or use it as a monitor, the aux & headphone jacks come in handy too. I think Fender hit a Home run with the Bronco 40.
Compact & easy to use, carry around. Use for jamming or private practice in your room. The Bronco 40 is a great little amp with a lot to offer.
James Coderre owns this item
This is the first modeling bass amp I have owned. The bronco40 is quiet a surprise with its affects and amp models. It is very easy to understand and operate. This is not rocket science! Being able to use fender fuse software with the bronco40 is a big plus. It allows you to set your own presets and tweak them any time, any where. Each amp model has its own unique sound, and if you can understand what an eq does, what gain, bass, mid, and treble means, it should be a piece of cake. The effects are very easy to adjust, especially with the fender fuse software. I only wish there were more effects. This is a blast to play through and should be interesting to record with. Only 40watts, might want to line in if you plan to perform.
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|Model Name:
|Bronco™ 40, 120V
|Model Number:
|Amplifier Type:
|Software Modeling
|Gain, Bass, Mid, Treble, Master, Preset Select, FX Select, Compression Select, Save Button, Exit Button, Tap Tempo Button
|40 Watts
|One - 1/4"
|Auxiliary Input:
|entrée jack auxiliaire 1/8"
|Headphone Jack:
|Prise casque jack 1/8"
|Line Out:
|Sortie XLR avec Ground Lift.
|Un canal
|Cabinet Material:
|7-Ply 3/4" Medium-Density Fibreboard
|Pilot Light Jewel:
|Red LED
|Molded Plastic Strap with Black Powder Coated Caps
|Front Panel:
|Painted Metal
|Grill Cover:
|Black Metal Perforated Grille
|Amplifier Depth:
|11.25" (28.57 cm)
|Amplifier Width:
|18" (45.72 cm)
|Amplifier Height:
|15.25" (38.73 cm)
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I think I'd rather have the points in Shield Spec, Blood and Thunder, Thunderstruck, or Safeguard.
With the upcoming change to War Academy I'm wondering where to move those 3 points too. I'm sitting at 5/5/31 atm (http://www.wowhead.com/talent#LGZhbZIzGdRRRzbu) and wondering if anyone has every tested out the talent Rude Interruption? For 5 mans it seems decent but I don't think it'll have much utility in raids(?). What do you guys think?
I think I'd rather have the points in Shield Spec, Blood and Thunder, Thunderstruck, or Safeguard.
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I rarely use Shield Bash in 5 mans. Spell reflect as much as I can, stun otherwise.
For me, it would only give a DPS increase in raids.
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It's worth considering that a 15% buff to Devastate isn't terrible to have either.
that's assuming we even pick up 3/3 war academy, 3 points to gain 15% on our lowest priority skill?
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I've had Rude Interruption for a while for 5man heroics. At the moment I'm playing around with another spec.
I interrupt a lot in 5 mans. It's even quite good for some boss encounters. For this encounters 5% too all can be alot. It's hard to give it a value though, because it scales with all your other dmg (and the number of interrupts you can land).
Interrupting is quite important at the moment. Some bosses cannot be done without it. There are quite alot of dds who either cannot interrupt, did not skill their interrupt/use another pet, actually don't know how one interrupts (this is especially a sad one), screw it up all the time or just don't care about it. Chances are high that you can interrupt alot in 5 mans. It it's of any value for raiding hugely depends on your group composition. But even if you are one of the core interrupter there, there are probably better "default" specs.
The main problem with this talent is the cost to get there. You have to spend some points to quite bad talents in t1 of fury, while they could be used for very good other things. However if you already have 5 points in fury it may be something to consider.
@Andenthal: I often have both on CD, interrupt and spell reflect and stun above that. Most times you can use them inbetween each other. Anyway, there are many casts that you can interrupt where spell reflect dose not help. That's all heals, all rdm casts (at least if you are not sure that you will be the target), some of the casts that hit multiple people and some special abilities (like the grip of the final boss fo stonecore).
It's terrible, devaste buff is at max a +850 damage increase while decreasing my heroic strike hits by roughly 3-6kish (depending on fight/vengeance stacks).
It's terrible compared to the current version given that Heroic Strike is overpowered. However, we knew Heroic Strike would get nerfed in beta, they just took a while to get around to it.
That doesn't mean the new version is terrible in the context of post-nerf Heroic Strike, especially considering that Devastate is still a heavily-used ability. I will run some numbers on it later tonight, but I'm guessing the new version is still a fairly respectable threat talent. Not amazing, but not terrible.
Ran some numbers. A bit surprising results.
All numbers were run with the 2-set Shield Slam bonus, which gives an advantage to Cruelty but is easy to get so I included it.
If using Revenge in your rotation, War Academy is about 15% below Cruelty in terms of DPS per talent point. Cruelty is better, but only by a small margin. Deep Wounds still remains much better (almost double) per point than either one of them.
However, if you drop Revenge from your rotation with War Academy and use Devastate instead, you gain a significant amount of TPS just from dropping Revenge (about the same value as both points in Hold the Line or all 3 points in Cruelty) but War Academy then adds more TPS per talent point than Hold the Line, Shockwave weaving, or Cruelty by about 10-20%.
If you are single-target tanking and do not need the AoE splash from Improved Revenge, this then frees up two points in the primary Protection tree for use in utility talents or increased Rage flow from Shield Spec. Also, as War Academy buffs Victory Rush it makes Impending Victory much less of a TPS loss should you choose to take it in addition to more reliable as you are replacing Revenge with Devastate. (I don't love Impending Victory, but this route does make it better.)
My personal feeling is that Revenge needs a serious buff, but with these changes it actually seems sensible to still maintain War Academy and drop Improved Revenge and Revenge from your rotation unless you are rage-starved. If you do this, War Academy is actually only about 10-15% worse than it was when it affected Heroic Strike even with a Heroic Strike frequency of 90%.
Example numbers (assume that without Improved Revenge you don't use Revenge):
(baseline), no Revenge: 8623 DPS
2/2 Improved Revenge: 8693 DPS
2/2 Improved Revenge, 2/2 Cruelty: 8893 DPS
3/3 War Academy, 2/2 Improved Revenge: 8932 DPS
3/3 War Academy: 8991 DPS
3/3 War Academy, 2/2 Cruelty: 9191 DPS
3/3 War Academy, 3/3 Deep Wounds: 9614 DPS
3/3 War Academy, 3/3 Deep Wounds, 2/2 Cruelty: 9854 DPS
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what the fu-devastate?
So post patch, picking up war academy, and completely dropping revenge out of our rotation will yield higher tps and dps? that's... O_o, I feel like blizzard didn't hash this one out enough if "fixing" heroic strike usage means dropping revenge out of our rotation....
if they don't change revenge, i'll probably spec something like this than, get all the utility that I want, try to abuse impending victory if necessary (if not i'll take points out and put safeguard instead.
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the irony is that revenge used to be our hardest hitting attack in days of yore. now they're accidentally incentivizing us not to use it.
Yeah, I have to say that I don't totally understand why Revenge has such a low AP coefficient in Cataclysm.
Didn't we have the same problem in our Tier 9 2pc? That due to the 5% dev bonus and imp rev adding the stun rather than the dmg/cleave you could get away with just Dev spamming?
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I think this got quite OT....
At the moment it's only on the PTR. The idea of the change was to nerf HS und buff some other abilities. It was supposed to be a change that manily affects fury and arms. They had to add something for prot as well to the changed talent because all talents of the first two tiers should do at least something for every spec.
I doubt that blizz anticipated the effects this change could have to our rotation. They will probably change something before it gets life.
I wouldn't say the HS change was just for Fury and Arms, even if they mentioned that. Heroic Strike was pretty over the top damage-wise for Protection as well.
Sure but it's less of a problem. Prot warriors are supposed to have a more or less full rage bar at most encounters that are relevant, because you have a relatively high dmg income there. So it's supposed that prot warriors hit HS more or less on CD, there. Fury and Arms are not supposed to have so much rage all the time, that a "rage dump" could be used more or less constantly during a boss encounter. If the decide to use HS instead of their rotation it's a problem. Tanks will probably use HS beside of their (remaining) rotations in such a situation, anyway.
It's a problem if one ability does too much dmg, but it's a much bigger problem if it's so much that abilities which you are supposed to use are ignored in favor of them. Like it's with arms and fury at the moment but much less with prot.
Hower it's a bad solution if a fix to this problem leads to a problem of the same nature, prot warriors not wanting to use revenge anymore.
Looking over thursday's omnitron kill raid log my HS was hitting on avg for about 15k, with a 33% crit rate; Dev was hitting for 7k with ~20% crit rate, and this was in a non WA. non incite spec with GoDev. Those figures indicate thats its better for me to heroic strike once than it is to devastate twice. That doesn't sound like a rage dump; its too rage effiecient. We get more damage for the same amount of rage than our filler. solutions?
1) Nerf HS damage
2) Buff Dev damage
3) Nerf Dev cost
4) Buff HS cost
Blizz have gone for solutions 1 with the option of solution 2, and as we know the problem with buffing as opposed to nerfing is that it can break other mechanics, like now we don't take Imp revenge. I personally would have gone for solutions 1 and 4, upping the cost of HS to probably around 40, meaning you really don't have much room to HS, and getting it wrong, espeically while IR us up, will penalize you much harder. Dumping 80% of your resource bar means you hare going to have to cancel IR to do anything except revenge unless you have a handy source of rage to carry your rotation onwards.
would this be a nerf, straight up yes.
Yeah, the problem was that Heroic Strike was simply outpacing everything. With a 75% AP coefficient, it didn't take long for it to outscale even Shield Slam--while Devastate and Revenge had no chance from the get-go.
One of the biggest risk factors for Warrior rotational balance is simply that variation of AP scaling vs. base damage ratios across our abilities. Heroic Strike, for instance, is high AP and low (basically no) base damage--whereas Shield Slam was changed mid-beta from similar (it was 100% AP, no base damage for a long time) to lower AP scaling with large base damage.
This means that pre and post-Vengeance and as we get better gear, our rotational balance changed. Shield Slam is fine when you first hit 85, yet by even the middle parts of T11 content Heroic Strike outscales it. Think of if they had left that for T12+ content with our projected Vengeance levels.
My personal feeling is that both Revenge and Devastate are a bit too low... it's nice to see them addressing Devastate somewhat, but Revenge could use some love. Its base AP coefficient is simply too low and it almost completely relies on Improved Revenge to be viable. I believe they felt that its Rage efficiency would still make it strong, but the reality is that Rage is not really a major issue--especially with Shield Spec being so powerful with the common tactic of Mastery stacking.
Either way, Heroic Strike needed to be nerfed significantly.


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I don't get the reasoning behind giving Malinga 1 over???
But anyways, SA on their way to another choking loss.
Why did Smith chose to field anyways???? It looks like a good batting track..
Be VERY AFRIDI!!
Its not a choking loss really. They just played **** and SL well.
Not every ODI or T20 loss in a world tournament is a choke.
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Just switched on - Smith and Kallis look up for giving this a go. Will be good to see how the Saffas manage the spin.
This is a great head-to-head, AB vs. Mendis. I reckon whoever wins this, wins the game.
If you are chasing against Sri Lanka and the game is even when the spinners come on you generally back the Lankans to pull it off. That's what it looks like right now. Smith definitely brought SA back into the game with some great shots through the off side but that was a piece of magic by Mendis.
Kallis is out and the RRR climbs over 7. I think it's officially Sri Lanka's game to lose.
Oh Mendis, you are so so so awesome.
Oh dear, this tournament could be a walk-over by Sri Lanka. Perhaps India or Pakistan could knock them out.
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I shoot Nikon crop frame at the moment but want to progress to full frame, hopefully in the not to distant future.
I have a Nikkor18-135mm f3.5-5.6 G IF ED DX that Ive found to be a good all rounder.
Recently invested in the AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED Vrii
Mostly shooting for the local football club but being asked to do more.
Have in the past and only on film shot a little motor sport and a number of weddings but really not keen on the weddings.
Think it makes sense to invest in decent glass rather than full frame body at the moment.
Looking for my next lens.
Keeping in mind that I do want to progress to full frame a number of lenses have come to my attention.
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Some other advice has added that maybe I shouldnt go for a 50mm at all as I am going to be shooting crop frame for the immediate future & that I should be looking more towards 35mm & that for a few pounds more I should look at the 35mm f/2D that will also be very useful on full frame when I get there. Dont know how that lens compares?
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The Amahoro, meaning Peaceful, is lead by Ubumwe, who lives up to his name. There is a steep climb to reach the tranquil Amahoro group, however the climb is well worth it once in contact with this tranquil group.
Umubano Group lead by Charles the Silverback who took part of the Amahoro group to create its own when he matured into the same rank as Ubumwe. The two Silverbacks have met since, but Ubumwe seems to respect Charles and the two groups live peacefully alongside. Indeed, Umubano means "Live Together."
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Wow. You guys are good. Wouldn't of expected this till after Thorim. We're gonna be owned by him.
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Looks like an amazing encounter. We killed Freya today with help of your video but it was too late to have some tries on Mimiron, so hopefully we'll see this next week.
I just want to thank Tankspot for the great work with these video's, you have helped my guilds progress through Ulduar alot.
Some comments:
We had major issues with the Shock Blast / Barrage combo. As some have noted elsewhere it seems that the boss goes crazy if the tank moves around while he's doing the Spinning Up for barrage. We used Guardian spirit in the end so I could stand still while tanking during Blast. It was really irritating though because the two abilities overlapped the first occurance every single try..
We had a sort of messy solution to the bombs in phase 3 as well. Our DK tanked the boss while standing under it taking all the bombs using some mixed tank gear.
One more thing worth noting imo was that the mines seems to last like a second longer even after self-exploding. So if you see a ring of mines wear out and explode, don't run past them directly or you'll get blown to bits.
I don't think I heard this mentioned in the video but in 25 man the assault bots must be kited by a ranged class as they will one shot anyone (hit me once for 85k).
By rotation I mean the first add that spawns one holy paladin will bubble sac while the other HoJs it and freedoms the tank.
The second add that spawns they switch rolls.
on the third one the tanks switch and the DK kites the bot (which we do not kill until the phase 3-4 transition by which time he has plenty of agro) and the warrior tank taunts and explodes the bomb bots.
A note on the bomb bots: we found it easier to just have a tank explode them than switch dps to them. By doing this we guarantee the head is dead after 2 cores and also DPS cannot afford to switch off the assult bot or it will not die before BoSacrifice wears off the tank.
I as the druid take all the junk bots the whole phase.
Its extremely hard to outheal the plasma blast thingy on phase 1. Its about 5 ticks of 17k damage (20k before stance/talent modifiers).
On 10man our usual tanking setup is 2 prot warriors. With our dps we were getting 3 blasts in phase 1. What worked best for us was first warrior tanks for the first 2 blasts with SW and LS for each and after the second we switch tank (he's tauntable) and the 2nd tank SWs for the 3rd blast.
For phase 2 I disagree on usage of bloodlust. The aoe damage is fairly easy to outheal and the phase overall is not hard at all. Imo bloodlust is better used on either 3rd or 4th phase.
For phase 3 I suggest kiting. I hunter or ele shaman can very easily kite the biggy and all you need is a priest to dispell when kiter gets stunned. While its defo doable to tank kiting guarantees a smooth phase while tanking them can result on a dead tank since they hit for ~25k on 10man and I would assume ~35k on heroic (havent tried 25man yet). Should be mentioned that they can be slowed by anything (frost shock, earthbind totem, chains of ice, you name it) as well as stunnable. We were just kiting, ranged dps on them, melee on small robots and charge/conc blow or charge/shockwave on every cooldown. Worked like a charm.
I can't comment on phase 4 since we didn't actually kill it
Edit: For phase 3 its possible to have a warrior tank tanking actually. Just open with heroic throw and then spell reflect his 9k (on 10man) hits. Thats some massive threat and since your ranged dps will not be able to go all out (they have to take care of the bots) as long as you spell reflect everytime its on CD you can actually tank it. Not that you have to but its cool nonetheless
For phase 3 bomb bots we use a prot warrior (me) with vigilance on the feral MT. When a bot drops it gets called out and I taunt it & kite. Dropping 2-3 more taunts as necessary while it gets ranged down. We failed phase 3 multiple times, once the strategy was changed to what I just outlined, P3 was a complete breeze. (10man)
Note that there were some hotfixes that appear to have gone in late Monday just before we got this kill:
- The initial cooldown of Shock Blast in phase 4 was staggered so that it won't happen the same time as Laser Barrage
- The damage output of the Assault Bots was lowered
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many thanks
Thanks a lot for this. Though we wont be able to get past Iron Council for a while (due to stupidity), once we DO get to the Watchers your guides will make it so much easier.
Gertiploiss, the tank without a cause or reason.
laughed out loudly at the very ending:
Had a lot of issues phase 4 with the Laser mechanic. I was MTing and tried moving him during lasers (which is a really bad idea). Next we tried keeping him in place, but the last bolt off lasers actually hit me.
I'm assuming the thing to do is to move right at the last second and hope he doesn't bug out???
Was curious how some people handled that "buggy" part of the encounter....


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We're a casual guild. We have a one-night a week for 4 hours "progression" ICC10 man that is 1 achieve away from Glory (the sindy 5 stacks achieve). We have 2 other 10 man ICC's that are 11/12 right now, and a 25 man at 10/12 which we started 3 weeks ago. We also have a late night 10 man that just started and a 10 man teaching & gearing raid for newbs. We also have a saturday 25 man to gear alts and we do drag in some pugs for it.
Sunday night we had 32 people on at 9 server.
All of our raids are one night per week, and we've done OK since we started ICC before LK was in the game but after Frost Wing was open, and didn't have a serious raid until a month + after that.
We use Suicide Kings for loot, and are pretty social, but adult only (18+). We're not going to be server first at anything, but we don't need to be...we were around before WoW opened it's doors and we'll be around after WoW2 comes along...I'm happy with our progression as long as we're in the top 10 for our faction..which we are, despite the late start.
You don't have to sacrifice RL for progression as long as you find a place that's organized enough to make it happen.