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August 3, 2013
Category: Historical Attractions
Picnic In Our Spectacular Gardens!
During your visit, take a break and enjoy a lovely picnic on the enchanted grounds of Casa Loma. We'll do the work; you just pick up your basket, spread out the blanket, and relax in the sunshine.
Picnic Basket for Two: $25.50 (taxes included). Available Wednesday to Sunday.
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Location: Casa Loma — 1 Austin Terrace
ROM Walks
One of the greatest ways to explore the city is walking at street level through Toronto's neighbourhoods. Guided walking tours are offered for free by ROMwalks every Wednesday evening and Sunday afternoon from May through October. Tour leaders from the Royal Ontario Museum's (ROM) Department of Museum Volunteers present thoroughly researched guided tours through some of the city's most distinctive neighbourhoods, visit historic landmarks and illuminate the architectural and historical significance of Toronto's building.
All ROMwalks are free and no reservations are needed, with the exception for ROMwalk Plus walks.
See www.rom.on.ca/en/activities-programs/bus-walks-travel for more details.
The Royal Ontario Museum (ROM) hosts Mesopotamia in its premiere North American engagement from June 22, 2013 to January 5, 2014. The internationally touring exhibition of the ancient civilization is presented in Toronto by the British Museum in collaboration with the ROM.
More than 3,000 years of accomplishments by the civilization are explored in the exhibition. Widely credited with the invention or development of writing, long-distance communication, law, trade networks, and the first empires, Mesopotamian society also launched and advanced literature and sophisticated art, concurrently with great intellectual, spiritual, and scientific advances. These achievements still influence us today.
Mesopotamia showcases more than 170 priceless objects from the eminent collections of the British Museum. These artifacts, most never before seen in Canada, are augmented by those from the ROM's own renowned collections and other leading institutions, including the University of Chicago Oriental Institute Museum, the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology (Penn Museum, Philadelphia), and the Detroit Institute of Arts. Presented in a series of well-defined themes, the exhibition features an outstanding selection of artifacts: stunning jewellery, dramatic stone sculptures, and impressive wall reliefs.
For more details: www.rom.on.ca/en/exhibitions-galleries/exhibitions/upcoming-exhibitions/mesopotamia
Location: Royal Ontario Museum — 100 Queen's Park
Chinese Portraits of the Ming and Qing Dynasties (1368 – 1911)
The tradition of hosting highly visual exhibitions in the Herman Herzog Levy Gallery at the Royal Ontario Museum (ROM) continues with Faces to Remember: Chinese Portraits of the Ming and Qing Dynasties (1368 – 1911). On display at the ROM from May 18, 2013 to February 23, 2014, Faces to Remember features Chinese portraits created during the Ming and Qing dynasties, and comes from the renowned collections of the Museum's Far Eastern section.
Showcasing a culturally important, but often-overlooked aspect of Chinese art and culture, the exhibition's portraits are astonishing in their detail and embedded symbolism. The visual appeal of the exhibition's 25 works – some remarkably large – is enhanced by a number of sartorial and personal accessories, objects carefully selected for their resemblance to those seen in the paintings.
Dr. Ka Bo Tsang, ROM Assistant Curator, Chinese Pictorial Arts, is the exhibition's curator. She explains, "Portraits are a way to commemorate people, whether known or unknown to us. The portraits displayed in the exhibition, as well as the personal accessories, provide us with a better understanding of the Chinese people of the past, their aspirations and moral values."
For more details: www.rom.on.ca
Location: Royal Ontario Museum — 100 Queen's Park


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Yesterday it was Sports Illustrated super power Kate Upton who got us talking when she tweeted a pic of herself dolled up as 1960s screen siren Brigitte Bardot for V Magazine. Now images have been released of our own home-grown Kate, La Moss, posing in a provocative Bardot-esque fashion on the cover of Vanity Fair magazine.
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As well as opening up about the reason for her 'heroine-chic' physique in the 1990s (apparently food on shoots was scarce) and enjoying a quieter life as a married woman ("I don't really go to clubs any more. I'm actually quite settled") Kate also dished on her four-year relationship with actor and international heartthrob Johnny Depp. She confessed: "There's nobody that's ever really been able to take care of me. Johnny did for a bit. I believed what he said. Like if I said, 'What do I do?' - he'd tell me. And that's what I missed when I left. I really lost that gauge of somebody I could trust. Nightmare. Years and years of crying. Oh, the tears..."
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Grand Cafe-Grand Geneva Resort
- Address:
7036 Grand Geneva Way
Lake Geneva, WI 53147Neighborhood:
Lake Geneva
- Cuisine:
AmericanPrice: $30 and under
Grand Cafe-Grand Geneva Resort
- Dining Style: Casual Elegant
- Website: http://www.grandgeneva.com/
- Phone: (262) 249-4788
- Hours of Operation:
Grand Café Breakfast:
Monday-Sunday: 6:30-11:30am
Grand Café Lunch:
Monday-Sunday: 11:30-3:00pm
Grand Café Dinner:
Friday-Saturday: (Featuring our Prime Rib and Seafood Buffet) 5:00pm-10:00pm
- Payment Options: AMEX,Carte Blanche,Diners Club,Discover,JCB,MasterCard,Visa
- Cuisine: American
- Executive Chef: Michael Sawin
- Dress Code: Business Casual
- Accepts Walk-Ins: Yes
- Additional Details: Bar/Lounge, Beer, Cafe, Entertainment, Full Bar, Non-Smoking Restaurant, Private Room, View, Wheelchair Access, Wine
- Catering: Private Dining Available.
- Private Party Facilities: Private Dining Available. Birthdays, Anniversaries, Celebrations, Reunions, Wedding Dinners and more. Our chef will work with you to cater a custom menu for your function to meet your needs.
- Private Party Contact: Jamaica Fincher 2622457552x
- Entertainment: Enjoy live entertainment performing nightly located adjacent to the Grand Cafe. Relax and enjoy the music amid comfortable surroundings and a roaring fire. Appetizers, sandwiches, and desserts are also available. Non-smoking.
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Enjoy seasonal American fare fused with ethnic flair in a casual atmosphere. Experience the flavors of the changing Midwestern seasons, with healthy dining options from low-carb to low-calorie, as well as sinfully delicious desserts. Don't miss our weekend breakfast buffet featuring an omelet station. Grand Cafe is located on the 1300 acre Grand Geneva Resort, just a short drive from downtown Lake Geneva.Continued
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- Food4Service4.4
- Ambiance4Noise LevelModerate
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- Good food within the resortMartiniloverVIPDined on 10/25/2014We had dinner at the Cafe on a Saturday night. It was a fall colors weekend so the restaurant was relatively busy. I ordered from the menu and my husband had the buffet. The buffet food was okay for the price. My spinach salad and crab cakes were food. It took awhile for my spinach salad to arrive; the waitress and a manager apologized for the delay. Service was very good. The restaurant was smoky at times when they were cooking something in the buffet area. They should install a vent to remove the smoke when they're cooking in a public area of the restaurant. Overall a good experience.
- Great Birthday dinner!Happy2reviewDined on 8/13/2014We took out aunt here for her birthday dinner and we had a very nice time. Food was super yummy. The green bean appetizer and turkey rueben were amazing!! Our server Emily was fantastic. She was very kind and provided impeccable service. Our aunt felt very honored to have her birthday dinner at Grand Geneva. The birthday dessert and candle made her feel like a princess, thank you!!!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Buffet & kidsGEEZEEVIPDined on 8/2/2014The food & service were very good - waitress was very nice. The only thing that ruined our night were the loud kids screaming next to us.Special Features:
- The following 103 reviews are from the Grand Cafe-Grand Geneva Resort reviews archive.
- Grand Cafe-Grand GenevaLoveOpenTableDined on 7/18/2014Our experience for Friday dinner was ok. We were seated right away, but not per our request near a window. Also, service was very poor. Many tables were attended to before us, even though we were seated first. Many open tables too, which made us feel that they were just short/poorly staffed. We ended up having the seafood buffet just so we could eat right away. Crab legs were served cold, which wasn't very tasty. Not that impressed for cost of buffet. Went to have drinks on outdoor patio near fire after, which was very nice.
- Good seafood buffetRunningSapVIPDined on 6/13/2014Good seafood buffet. My son loved the crab legs and are plate after plate. In addition to seafood they had a carving station and the prime rib was perfect. I'd recommend itSpecial Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- OpenTable Diner Since 2010VIPDined on 5/31/2014We were looking for a nice place to eat on a busy Saturday evening -- but didn't want to go "all out". The Grand Geneva Location showed off beautifully and we enjoyed the more casual ambiance of the Grand Cafe (vs. the more upscale Brissago or Chop House, which we love) We all had a different entree and enjoyed our meals VERY much. Things were relaxed and most enjoyable. Wine list was nice and we were allowed to take our time while enjoying conversation with our guests. We will be back -- soon, I'm guessing!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- BuffetOpenTable Diner Since 2008Dined on 4/25/2014Food and service were both great! We enjoyed the golf course lakeside view. We had the seafood buffet and everything was delicious. Server was very friendly and checked on us frequently, but was not intrusive.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- DisappointingJayjayDined on 4/4/2014We planned to eat the seafood buffet, but the quality of food on the buffet looked poor. So we ate off the menu and it was pretty good. There were a lot of loud children in the dining room which made conversation hard. we chose to go elsewhere for our other meals.Special Features:
- I made an OpenTable reservationDubidubiVIPDined on 3/27/2014I made an OpenTable reservation for dinner at 9pm last Wednesday. We were literally walking out the door when the gal told me that, at 8:45, my reservation was being cancelled and that the Geneva Chop House, many times more expensive, could take us. That's absurd.
- Made reservation several weeksOpenTable Diner Since 2014Dined on 3/15/2014Made reservation several weeks ahead when I reserved my room at the Grand Geneva. I had a 11am reservation. I even got a second email reminder for the reservation that morning. I get to the cafe and the hostess and waitress tell me they don't take reservations and are very rude. I tried to explain them that they do online right through the Grand Geneva website, however they were emphatic that I was wrong and service remained poor throughout our inning experience there.Special Features:
- FAIR - Nothing too spectacularAnniversaryWeekendDined on 2/21/2014My husband and I spent our anniversary weekend at Grand Geneva. We stopped in after we arrived on Friday evening for the seafood buffet in the Grand Cafe. We ordered a bottle of champagne to share with dinner... which was delivered very warm. After taking the first drink,, we immediately had to ask to get it chilled. The wait staff did not seem too knowledgeable. The prime rib was delicious although we did not realize there were various sauces to be used with it until after since they were located by the crab legs. Our meal was finished after I found a hair in the broccoli/cauliflower salad. Overall, it seemed to be a good area for groups and families just don't expect anything too spectacular.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Quality foodkateDined on 2/16/2014I was pleasantly surprised to find quality food, the real thing. Everything I tasted, including from my family member's plates, tasted home-made. I cook a lot so I can tell the difference. Even the deserts had a homemade quality to them, not the overly sweet artificial fare that substitutes for food in so many places.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Valentine Day dinnerJeffReigbterDined on 2/14/2014We enjoyed our experience. Our server was very courteous, helpful and attentive. Food choices were good and plentiful. Thanks for helping me to make my 38th Vday with my girl great.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Valentines DayOpenTable Diner Since 2013Dined on 2/14/2014was sat a table promptly but the buffet was not what we felt it should have been for the price paid. Crab legs cold unless you asked them to steam them,then it was a good little wait. We felt selection was minimal. Our server was very attentive to our needs. Atmosphere was nice, tables were a little close,made getting up a little bit of a challenge. We probably would not go there again.Special Features:
- Great buffetFatboyDined on 2/14/2014We went for dinner on valentines day. The food was great and there was a big selection of dishes, they even had a seperate children's buffet. Food was delicious!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- great serverholidaytripDined on 12/22/2013we were expecting a full menu when we made our reservations, they were offering a seafood buffet with a limited menu, we all chose the buffet for our dining options. we had to request a server after waiting almost 10 min after being seated. our server was very attentive and made sure we did not have to wait for anything. The dessert buffet was fairly sparse once we were ready for dessert. when we inquired about the availability of additional deserts, our server said she had a pastry chef at her disposal and she would take care of it. she then brought out four huge servings of four different deserts, that were not on the buffet, and they were all fantastic. All in all, the food was good, but the service was exceptional once we got it.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- The grand "grand cafe!"Jared4885Dined on 11/29/2013Food was awesome, server was especially great. My girlfriend and I just got engaged and were having a romantic dinner to celebrate. The server brought us champagne and roses free of charge and with out me asking her to. It really made the night.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Great food in a wonderful settingrbastroDined on 10/25/2013The Friday night seafood and prime rib buffet was positvely superb. It's definitely worth the drive from Milwaukee!Special Features:
- Grand cafe. Nice buffet andOutOnTheTownDined on 10/19/2013Grand cafe. Nice buffet and our waiter was outstanding. Lobby bar was nice but waitress kept walking by us...we had to walk up to bar and order our own drinks. Overall great spot!I would recommend this to a friend.
- Weekend StayVinceDined on 8/17/2013There is no bad time at The Grand Geneva. The atmosphere, accommodations, dining, service, & entertainment are always a grade above.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Grand Cafe is GrandalleycatVIPDined on 8/7/2013This was our fourth trip to Lake Geneva for a little get-away. We ate at the Grand Cafe and Grand Geneva resort three times during our trip. I had the chicken quesadilla (ate half, brought half home); the salmon and sticky rice; chicken flat bread. I enjoyed everything that I ate - the salmon was especially yummy (hubby ate it, too). We asked to have the super fattening things withheld and they were very accommodating (butter sauce on salmon, green goddess dressing on flat bread). The Grand Geneva is a wonderful resort with very high-end amenities without the very high end prices. We are looking forward for our next trip!Special Features:
- Prime Rib & Crableg BuffetCrablegsDined on 8/3/2013Overall the buffet was very good. Good selection of entrees and choices. The waitress had to bring the crablegs to the table, these were not at the buffet stations. Overall service could have been a little better in finding a waitress in order to request more crablegs for the table.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- This was once a wonderfulOpenTable Diner Since 2010Dined on 8/3/2013This was once a wonderful place full of good restaurants. The ambience is great which is the only reason we return. Their brunches were outstanding and now fair and not worth the price. On this visit, the buffet was still poor. The server left empty plates until we called him over. The food off the menu was fair at best and if they cannot make a particular dish, they should not offer it. The lounge with the piano is very nice and I would recommend that for anyone. Expect lots of children at all times, which is Ok as long as you know in advance as we do. Overall if not for the view, try some other palceSpecial Features:
- grand geneva cafevitaDined on 7/27/2013Excellent==great food, the service was outstanding--everyone was so nice to our 2 kids and even showed them how to crack crab legs great experienceSpecial Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- nice selection of itemsKEK909Dined on 6/28/2013We ate at the Grand Cafe for seafood buffet on Friday night. The shrimp and crab were very good - they could have been more chilled, but nice selection of mustards, horseradish, dipping sauces. Dessert selection was nice, salad options were okay but dressing choices were a bit slim. Would have liked some healthier vinegrette choices. The nicest part of dinner was the special anniversary dessert they brought out for us!Special Features:
- The food was pretty good,OpenTable Diner Since 2013Dined on 3/22/2013The food was pretty good, although due to our timing we seemed to always catch the tail end of the buffet dishes so had we timed it better we probably would have enjoyed it more if we helped ourselves to the fresher dishes brought out, over all tho the food was worth the $'s both in quantity & quality. The service however left a bit to be desired at least with our server. I would consistantly have to wave her down for drinks & even the cheque. With it being buffet style she had very few opportunities to show she earned a tip & failed dismally each time. We never not leave a tip but having to do so with such poor service left a bad taste in my mouth.Special Features:
- Went to Grand Geneva for thebigdogVIPDined on 2/23/2013Went to Grand Geneva for the 2 for 1 Prime Rib buffet and experienced the great coupon fiasco. Restauarant management gave us a difficult time trying to utilize offer for (4) adults. Luckily, a fellow diner provided another coupon from a newspaper! What a joke...
- Prime Rib & Crab buffett lacklusterOpenTable Diner Since 2010Dined on 2/23/2013Grand Cafe gets me to return occasionally but only because of special offers. While our server was very helpful and prompt, the buffet line was chaotic and many dishes were completely empty. The trays often contained very little, if any, food especially the shrimp, crab legs, etc. The prime rib was very good! While it's understandable due to the crowd, it was after 7:30pm and one would think that at some point the staff could keep up. Furthermore, the desert table was a distraction due to the number of children that apparently showed up without parents as they were eating literally off the table and playing with the chocolate fountain. If you're looking for a decent meal and don't want to go into town then this is fine.Special Features:
- Give it a tryOpenTable Diner Since 2013Dined on 2/22/2013We had the friday night seafood buffet. Great fish dishes, large peel and eat shrimp, and a small, but tasty salad bar. Crab legs are served cold and not very large. We didn't find them to have a very good crab flavor. Perhaps they were steamed, then plunged into ice water, which if left in the water, would have drawn out some of the flavor. Warm drawn butter is available and that may have helped the flavor. The chef carved prime rib was excellent. The dessert table, while not large, has many tasty treats including a chocolate fountain with assorted dippers. A live jazz band at the bar just steps below the buffet played great music making the night very enjoyable. Atmosphere is warm, casually formal and relaxing. We had fun, may go back.Special Features:
- The ONLY change for this reviewOpenTable Diner Since 2006Dined on 2/22/2013The ONLY change for this review is the date -------always a GOOD time with GREAT food! We'll be back!!!
- The Friday night Cafe BuffetOpenTable Diner Since 2006Dined on 2/8/2013The Friday night Cafe Buffet is always a treat.....crab legs, shrimp, prime rib, side dishes, salads and desserts.
- great food, service a tadOpenTable Diner Since 2013Dined on 1/26/2013great food, service a tad slow at times, need more choices on the potatoes, only had 1 but most of the food was great. The lounge entertainment was outstanding!!!Special Features:
- In house restaurant at GrandPabloXTXRNDined on 1/19/2013In house restaurant at Grand Geneva Resort, so there were many families with children-they loved the chocolate dessert fountain. Had the Saturday Crab and Prime Rib buffet. It was kept replenished all evening with fresh food. The staff was great about special requests, especially the chef at the buffet. He saw to things such as warming the chilled crab legs for folks and even putting slices of prime rib on the grill in the kitchen so as to be more well done for patrons. Good value, good food and good service.Special Features:
- A compliant is that I leftOpenTable Diner Since 2009Dined on 1/1/2013A compliant is that I left my gloves at the table accidentally. I immediately to the table fetch them and they weren't at the table. I spoke with the front server about this and she stated no one had returned them. I'm very dissappointed with my gloves having been taken vs returned. I am very surprised that'd happen at the Grand. I find this concerning regarding future visits to the Grand.Special Features:
- pricey, but to be expected..OpenTable Diner Since 2012Dined on 12/24/2012Good Food, pricey, but expected for a resort. Resort could use updating..still has the 70's feel with the dark wood. If you pay with a debit/credit card, the cafe automatically adds 20% and authorizes the full amount. They did this to us without any notice beforehand until I checked my bank account the following day. I thought the waitress had too many tables..they should have had a person just paying attention to drinks and bread for a number of tables.Special Features:
- Reservations recommend. OutstandinOpenTable Diner Since 2014Dined on 12/23/2012Reservations recommend. Outstanding service. We requested an item not on the menu and they met our request. Food was good. Price was a bit high but expected being a hotel restaurant.Special Features:
- We took our employees forOpenTable Diner Since 2012Dined on 12/20/2012We took our employees for lunch on Thursday for our Christmas celebration. The Server, Manager and entire staff were very accomodating and attentive; and the all our entrees were delicious!Special Features:
- We highly recommend theirGreek1Dined on 12/9/2012We highly recommend their Breakfast buffet. Omelettes from scratch, & waffles... delicious.Special Features:
- We had a seafood buffet onOpenTable Diner Since 2012Dined on 11/30/2012We had a seafood buffet on Friday night, but selection for seafood buffet was very small, only shrimps and crab legs plus 2 kind of fish. Unfortunately both shrimps and crab legs had no flavor at all and fish was overcooked (maybe from being in warmers for long time). Onion soup was good and the service was good too. Prior to Seafood buffet we had dined in Grand Cafe and the Asian Tuna salad along with Pot roast were very good, but the seafood buffet was a little disappointment for us.Special Features:
- The Grand Cafe was great.....servicromance4twoDined on 11/18/2012The Grand Cafe was great.....service and food was excellent and we were never forgotten. We did not have the buffet, but it also looked wonderful with a large dessert table. It was very crowded as the resort was having it's holiday tree lighting ceremony. Still, we would go back again and recommend this to any family.Special Features:


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Tuesday, 9 March 2010
John Kenner, President, North America, Schindler Elevator Corporation
Is there a name for the quiff created by uplifting the fringe in such a fashion?
77 comments:
- Graham Mumford said...
It's Angel, from Buffy - but I didn't think vampires were supposed to age?
I also have grave misgivings about those eyelashes...
- 9 March 2010 11:17
- Sponge Finge said...
Ah, the man behind Schindler's Lifts.
- 9 March 2010 12:25
- GigerPunk said...
There's something a bit Tony Hadley about him. Possibly with a touch of Peter Purves too.
Nice shirt, looks clean, crisp and a good quality fabric but shame about the tie. Why is it always the tie that lets them down? If it's not a button-down collar it's the tie...
- 9 March 2010 12:34
- Graham Mumford said...
I rather liked the tie, just not with that nice white shirt. Would look good turned into a cravat a la Patrick Cargill
- 9 March 2010 15:03
- GigerPunk said...
It wasn't so much the pattern I was failing it for (although it's not to my taste, far too '90s) more that the knot is so poor that it looks like it's been pea-nutted.
- 9 March 2010 16:15
- Dick Gittings. said...
He isn't lifting up the fringe, for some people it just grows like that. People like . . . me *runs off crying*
And why has no one pointed out it says Gittings under the photo? Gittings would be worth an update by itself on other parts of the Cutlack triptych.
- 9 March 2010 18:26
- Trilby said...
"Is there a name for the quiff created by uplifting the fringe in such a fashion?"
Schindler's Lift?
(Joke partially ruined by Mr. Finge but I went there anyway)
- 9 March 2010 23:06
- Anonymous said...
Tie looks good in combination with the hair. Shadows around the eyes makes it look like he's wearing makeup. Well, bye!
- 11 March 2010 12:55
- Anonymous said...
picture tells a 1000 words , can't the boy smile?- what is with these suits with no teeth?-is he trying to show just how serious a bad boy he is? - like watch out or I'll fire you- he's the type guy that whispers around telling people they are lucky to have a job - word on the street is that this guy can't spell, and is a classic self-serving womp - Daddy bought his college type, and he's been desperate for years to be an exec - watch out / dagger in back .
John Kenner, now Schindler Elevator man, previous Centrilift out of Claremore Oklahoma? Cowboy hillbilly turned Manhattan magnate? Green Acres in reverse. Giddings did their best to spruce the goose.
- 14 March 2010 03:11
- Krowe said...
So nice how the grey is highlighted. Such a pretty face, could use some more makeup about the cheekline and a bit less eyeshadow especially about the outer corner.
Gittings did a good job making up a rather dull face.
Regarding teeth, many times the photographer and consultant counsel to keep the mouth closed when teeth are not cosmetically attractive.
- 18 March 2010 05:07
- Anonymous said...
Kenner is not from sucklahoma. NY vs. ok - I think he made the right decision.... Mobilhoma isn't exactly Green Acres either!
- 12 April 2010 22:02
- Caryle Myers said...
The makeup artist really dressed up his eyelashes. I've never seen a man allow his eyelashes to be made up like those bottom eyelashes, especially right side camera view. Thick mascara.
The corner eye shadow is a bit thick and a larger portraint really shows it. If he uses this makeup photo for smaller photo shots, it's OK. But my of my, he likes his makeup.
The photo to me smacks of vanity and selfishness.
A selfish person is OK as long as people are aware, and the photo when you really examine it shows me those characteristics. Ego.
The makeup artists sense these things and can pronunce them, as the photo never really lies.
This photo also shows in my opinion that the man probably embellishes quite a bit.
I agree with the postings about the teeth.
- 15 April 2010 11:51
- johnnytruant said...
Is this the update where we leave the Tom Cruise sexuality questioning comments?
- 15 April 2010 13:07
- Caryle Myers said...
Caryle Myers said... johnnytruant, so you're looking for comments like about Tom Cruise sexuality and this guys photo. OK, not too challenging for met at least to comment.
Tom Cruise is straight - not a hair of gayness in Tom, and isn't that daughter that he sired a cutie doll. have you seen US magazine editiion with those gorgeous paparazi fotos?
Anyway, Tom is straight.
First off, I don't think it's a big deal whether people are straight or gay. It shows a lot of maturity and strength to come out.
So one big difference is that Cruise is not gay.
I don't know if Kenner is bisexual - the question for a man in his 40's that looks like that and loves his eyeliner like shown on that bottom right sexy brow in the photo is whether is has sired any children with his wife.
Rock Hudson was a hunk who was gay - of course married too.
In some business areas or industries, once they find out your gay and you haven't been able to come out, the guys who just aren't strong enough lots of times leave the industry they are in - completely get away. That's a shame that people will go to that extreme to escape personal humiliation. Once again, that's another reason why people like Barney Frank is commended when he came out in the early 80's. He's gay, so what?
Whoopi Goldberg talks openly about being bi-sexual in public and on TV. So maybe this executive has come out too, I don't know.
Like they say, YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE.
Besides, I like a man with nice eyelashes who uses makeup to look.
Sometimes, I am amazed when I see guys in drag who are simply beautiful. Guys do well in makeup.
Too bad it seems to be gay guys who've come out, and bi's who do it.
Well those are my comments on sexuality from looking at the photo.
- 16 April 2010 14:33
- Trilby said...
What... what just happened?
- 17 April 2010 00:54
- Caryle Myers said...
OK then Trilby, a note to GigerPunk about the peanut necktie comment, ------ to me, it's totally unreal with the amount of money spent on a foto spread like these, that Gittings did not show him HOW TO TIE A DOUBLE WINDSOR.
My Lord.
- 17 April 2010 23:02
- Caryle Myers said...
And here is the way to tie a Double Windsor my beginner dears:
They should at least teach this at exec school and test the students before the graduation ceremony.
- 17 April 2010 23:09
- johnnytruant said...
It wasn't me that wanted the comments about Tom Cruise's sexuality, it was the CEO. This just felt like a good place to put them as John Kenner looks a bit like our Tom. Anyway I haven't yet decided which type of sexuality to accuse Tom of: homo-, bi-, a-, hetero-, gerbil-, necro-, cereal-, etc, so you're leaping to a conclusion of your own already by assuming homosexuality.
I think the CEO's idea of comments questioning Tom's sexuality was in fact a joke to try to draw out some of the loonier elements of the internet. Job done.
- 18 April 2010 14:17
- johnnytruant said...
but anyway Caryle, I agree with your comments about eyeliner - it's great, more men, straight, bit and homo, should wear it.
- 18 April 2010 14:19
- Anonymous said...
Not just this John Kenner bloke. Now the news is that Tom Cruise is gay, as well.
All believable. Interesting read about the scientology groupies too.
Will have to find some public profiles on the Schindler's Lift character. Now let's see - ... google, yahoo bing what other seach venues will help discover?
- 26 April 2010 14:05
- Anonymous said...
hmmm, that didn't take long.
Google is hot stuff.
just found 2 personal public profiles - kinda stuck on himself from the read .... likes his foto as well. Marco Polo comments kinda awful mustn'
t like kids, wouldn't you say? Gather he has none of his own ....
- 26 April 2010 14:28
- Anonymous said...
Not sure how to post National Enquirer front page about Tom Cruise and Katie discovering. Link to photo above.
- 29 April 2010 22:30
- Krieger said...
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- 30 April 2010 13:09
- Jeff Pittman said...
4th floor at hotel in florida. elevator broken for second day. It's a Schindler elevator, and hotel says there are no parts in stock - maybe tomorrow they will have parts.
Schindler sucks, and John Kenner should be taking the stairs like the rest of us and see what it'ss like.
Next time, I'll make sure it's an Otis. If it's a Schindler, I'm changing hotels.
- 18 May 2010 03:08
- Jeff Pittman said...
OK, they got the elevator fixed last night.
Another subject.
When you call the Schindler Morristown NJ office, you get the news.
I guess if you live by the sword, you die by the sword.
Good riddance.
- 19 May 2010 15:17
- Anonymous said...
Schindler just canned him after only 6 months, after a 2 year Executive search!! Nice work Schindler management!!
- 20 May 2010 14:13
- Jeff Pittman said...
Sounds like John Kenner was fired. When I called the Morristown office, they said he was "no longer employed with Schindler.
Deserved it. Horrible service and spare parts here in Florida. When I called the main office to try & get support, no returned calls.
At our hotel, everyone had to climb the stairs.
My perspective as a "customer", John Kenner and management obviously performed poorly.
If he didn't want to return my calls, at least he could have had someone else call back.
Smacks of arrogance. What? Was I too much of a low life for him to try and help get spare parts to our hotel?
We were ticked off, and the hotel chain kept us informed as to status. I don't blame the hotel as much.
Like I posted above, next time Otis.
- 20 May 2010 17:48
- Anonymous said...
You sound like an old lady, get a life.
- 21 May 2010 02:16
- Jeff Pittman said...
Not very nice. Regardless, elevator is now fixed, so it was taken care of.
Look, the way I understand it, John is serving notice period, and has been given no assignments. You'd think he could at least return calls about operations issues.
Kudos to Mr Züger, who is well respected in the industry and could obviously identify an empty selfish suit and didn't cave in when John begged him to reconsider to save his ego job title and salary.
But when a person is selfish the only thing on the mind is trying to work out an amicable (albeit one sided )separation - in other words greedy $$$. And leave operations and basic things like spare parts for the lifeblood of the company to go to heck.
This is my last post, - cheers.
- 22 May 2010 01:24
- The CEO said...
Can I get a "Previously on Lost" style update of what exactly is going on in here?
- 23 May 2010 22:18
- Anonymous said...
Zuger is an empty suit as is most of the Schindler US management committee. They flushed a ton of cash down the toilet the last few years paying Korn Ferry big bucks for the executive search, only to can Kenner after 6 months and now have to pay him a hefty severance package. Nice work Schindler management!!
- 26 May 2010 20:56
- Johah Blechman said...
Stealthfully packs essential items in his executive briefcase to help stay on top of his game for another busy day at the office.
1. Mascara
2. Eye liner
3. Cosmetic pencils
4. Blush & brush
5. 'Between meetings' reading material.
- 29 May 2010 01:01
- Johah Blechman said...
Another challenging day at the office. So much on the meeting schedule for me, for I am the 'always so busy' executive.
There's -Strategic Planning at 9:00 am, - Market positioning at 9:30 am, - Competitive Analysis at 10:20am. And Product Development at 11:00 am. My leadership and input is important to company success.
Must review weekly headcount reduction prospects (HRP) at 1:00 pm, got to squeeze every last drop of juice from that orange.
Afterwards, I'll have one of my VP's make my nightly restaurant reservations just for me and the wife. Other than my title and status, she's everything to me (no time or desire to have kids when your destiny is corporate prince). Good thing I learned a real pearl of wisdom- get hitched to a corporate HR go getter, - so as to keep me connected. Pay her own way too. :) More time for Barry. :)
- 29 May 2010 01:19
- Anonymous said...
Interesting item. Best just to come out in the open.
- 29 June 2010 11:57
- Barry said...
Here's a what's going on reply.
It has to do with his so called "sexy" foto.
And a recently jilted long time (even pre-Mary) beau while 'KING HE' goes on the move NE. And now has a new handsome NE gentlemen with $$$, that's what it's about.
Old long time beau Barry photo senior yr - during Corps days, 'Johnny and Barry' and many years in Texas together after/ Mary in denial, rebuffed beau, out and in the closet, and a new moneyed gentlemen suitor.
- 16 July 2010 15:38
- Barry said...
BUT, I say this prayer to get past it all.
Even though seeing 'KING HE's' foto brings it back, it actually makes me stronger to see it and know what he is really about, instead of just the self- infatuated foto that we know he is.
Learn to let go and move forward in absolute freedom, and once you have let go never look backward, but ever forward. Once you have set the ball rolling and have accepted a completely new life, have no regrets but accept it all with real joy and thanksgiving. Regrets can hold you back and can prevent the most wonderful things taking place in your lives. Keep open so that anything can happen. Never be afraid of change, of the New.
- 16 July 2010 15:57
- Selfish said...
A perfect ten !
Also, another perfect description and fit !
- 5 November 2010 00:34
- Barry said...
OMG !!! after last sacking, had to be a prez again and doing a garage startup. all ego, geeeez. No more Barry.
- 28 November 2010 02:24
- Bird Cage said...
Wouldn't he cast well in the movie "The Bird Cage" as a butler or as a previous lover of Albert ? ! ?
Lots of similarities.
- 7 December 2010 08:04
- Anonymous said...
Yes Yes Yes! In the movie, Hank Azaria played the role perfectly as Agador. With those sexy eyebrows, Kenner is the type that would not even have to act! He seems to be a marvelous looking queen already. I'd like to get to know him better myself. Makes me shake with goosepimples all over. I wonder how he dresses at home, and would simply love to see him made up. Baby , I could use a hunky queen relationship.
- 12 December 2010 02:01
- Anonymous said...
See! Compare eyelashes and eyebrows with Queen of Queens, NY. Look at those eyebrows!. Johnny already has brows and lashes. So pretty. You go honey. Get out of the closet, and show us the way. Get hot, or get out!
- 13 December 2010 04:52
- Anonymous said...
This mugshot not my cup of tea. He seems to have sneary look in his eyes. Thumbs down - I don't like the picture.
- 20 January 2011 22:43
- John said...
My eyes adore you and your peanutted tie.
Eyelashes adorned and enhanced. Sissy me. I hope sissy you too.
- 24 February 2011 10:36
- John Kenner said...
First off, theres nothing wrong with wearing cosmetic mascara and grey highlighting. Camera shots are supposed to be complementary, and appealing.
Secondly, the tie not and way done would be not have been something noticed if it wans't said here.
Regarding Barry, that has been open for along time and case closed. Get a LIFE.
- 9 March 2011 00:02
- Clark said...
I posted something similar on Pieter Nota's page.
This guy Kenner looks like he is some manager of some small family run funeral home. Mr Mortician with too much make-up on - ha ha. What a joke.
Dark and gloomy.
Same as my post for Pieter -
"I mean really. Where do these guys with their pompous "exec" photos get off. This one looks like Hollywood or something, like he thinks he is cool big money, Mr. Capitalist Manager of the World or something.
This is a great parady website. It brings these elitist attempt exec photos to true light of what they really are - slick marketing of elitists who think they are princes or something.
Ha ha ha. "
- 7 April 2011 14:22
- Charlie said...
This sexy execs website is excellent literary parody.
These exec photos try to portray something which often it is not. It is their attempt like a male peacock to show off and position themselves as something special, when in fact they are not.
It would be no wonder that these executive peacocks would try to hire an attorney to prevent the parody and various opinions of what the reader believes is actually the truth. After all, the photos are merely a mask and "how dare anybody try to remove my peacock feathers to expose the truth by way of parody".
Keep up the good work, and don;t let these guys try to intimidate you.
thanks for letting us share our opinions.
- 8 April 2011 17:25
- Charlie said...
Looks like he used the same photo for two companies he was with.
John Kenner Baker Hughes
and also
John Kenner, Schlinder Escalator and Elevator Company
He must be real proud of the photo although it shows that he is no longer with either company and was a short timer at the Schindler Escaltor and let go after just months.
- 10 April 2011 20:05
- prom dress said...
This corporate photography blog reminds me of my father who also love wearing suits and tuxedos. Thank you for creating this post.
- 15 April 2011 07:24
- Anonymous said...
Boring white shirt and collar. Boring solid brown coat. No smile. Smug. Too much makeup. Poorly knotted tie -quite the amateur wanabe executive.
An example of spending probably too much money on a photo shoot with a dull subject.
- 21 April 2011 08:33
- Anonymous said...
You can say that again. What makes anybody consider him to be anything related to Tom Cruise?
More like Tom Snooze.
Yawn - boring agreed. Not even his gay eye makeup enlightened this photo.
Drab Mr.Grey Boring Death.
- 24 April 2011 04:44
- Anonymous said...
"Regarding teeth, many times the photographer and consultant counsel to keep the mouth closed when teeth are not cosmetically attractive."
Another reason is bad breath.
- 25 April 2011 07:58
- Anonymous said...
who takes the time to create this stuff to post it?
- 27 April 2011 16:48
- Jaz said...
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- 7 May 2011 11:09
- Anonymous said...
Dude, these types of guys don't get married again-duh.
Just once 4 da show. Get da pic-cha?
- 9 May 2011 22:45
- Thumbs Ell said...
used Photoshop to try and wipe the L on his forhead. Strokes thus embellished the quiff.
- 5 June 2011 19:28
- Wiener MO Lookalike said...
Guess who this reminds me of?
- 7 June 2011 01:30
- tan suits said...
Any suit and tuxedo will be great for this gentleman. He looks awesome. The photographer also did his job very well. Great!
- 9 June 2011 07:35
- Kenner Narcissist said...
good reading on how to spot a narcissist.
- 14 July 2011 04:45
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- 10 September 2011 12:20
- Kenner Defined said...
Ha ha, I just ran across this blog John Kenner. Posts pretty much got it right.
Dweeb, mostly self affected. Just look at the picture. Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me.
- 21 November 2011 00:32
- Kenner defined said...
It is the same John Kenner Summit ESP.
- 21 November 2011 00:35
- Plagiarism Checker said...
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- 6 February 2012 05:33
- Anonymous said...
Boring photo - quiff or no quiff.
Selfish, the guy supposedly "quit' his job at Baker Hughes and left the oil and gas industry to work for a building elevator company in New Jersey during one of the biggest booms in the oil and gas industry. What does that tell you?
He was fired after just a few months on the job for the elevator company Schlinder. Just ask him. No assignments were ever given to him. He tries to claim he worked there for a longer time than a few months. It's because he was given a severance pay and so he tries to show he was president for about a year.
He did the same thing at Baker Hughes. His title was president of a "product line" only and not the organization. The guy embellishes big time. Self infatuated.
So he couldn't find another president job. I guess he combed in quiff real nice and got some old money to invest in a start up so he could be a president again. Now that's a sexy executive!
Caution - especially fond of virile military type red heads.
- 11 February 2012 12:29
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- 29 March 2012 07:11
- Anonymous said...
Pretty John Kenner Summit esp tulsa ok.
Sweet & pretty like sugar and spice.
My secret friend, my cinnamon girl.
Back door lover.
Where the money goes.
Mary never knows.
- 15 April 2012 16:45
- Anonymous said...
John Kenner now with Summit ESP. A startup inspired by pure selfish ego. Profit by hopeful flip to some larger company stupid enough to fall for the charade.
- 25 June 2012 11:09
- John Kenner Gay Pride said...
Photo spread. Warm and inviting eyes. Nice mascara you got there John Kenner, Gay Pride.
- 14 September 2012 04:02
- Summit ESP Tulsa said...
How does famous esp executive Mr John Kenner react to public gay sentimitality? Or is it only private?
- 22 September 2012 07:19
- Anonymous said...
National Coming Out Day!
Get out of the closet! Even if you're working in the oil business. Come out of that dusty old closet!
- 15 October 2012 22:05
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- 13 November 2012 14:04
- Anonymous said...
even Auntie in Illinois knew the truth behind the mascara. Worry not.
- 7 December 2012 07:52
- Anonymous said...
and oh, the peanut tie is oh such an embarrassment for such a hulk exec like Johnny boy.
- 7 December 2012 07:54
- pets&animals said...
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- 24 December 2012 08:57
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- 24 December 2012 09:00
- Anonymous said...
Looks like it's starting to catch up to John Kenner by the sounds of it.
In his quest to climb his glory ladder, he has shafted so many people. His buddies are just like him. Texas aggy femmies.
- 2 January 2013 20:16
- Anonymous said...
Hey John Kenner was the worlds shortest time escalator executive ever in the industry. Ask him and he'll even tell you Schindler gave me no assignments. Secret is coming out what he did (and didn't do) while in New York City.
Being so smart, he should know where the world's shortest escalator is. It is located in Kawasaki, Japan. It's within 'More's department store' located across the street from the JR Kawasaki train station.
Cheers, John. Hey, did you ever finally pay up for that boat? Or did you walk away from that debt and promise too?
- 3 January 2013 16:49
- Anonymous said...
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First: blocking is not avoidance.
Second: While paladins block more often, warrior block for more when they block becuase of critical block and shieldblock. It's supposed to even out.
My guild heavily favors Paladin tanks, and it may be because the MT before I came along was an amazing Paladin tank. My guild goes around saying that Paladin tanks, because of the near constant uptime of Holy Shield are unhittable, which makes sense. I know my current fellow Paladin tank can keep his up indefinitely.
I can do that only with my Shield Block, and even with my T9 Four-pieces bonus, there's a 20-second downtime that my avoidance doesn't sky-rocket.
I know that Blizzard intended for each of the four tanks to be able to perform each role in this game, but do Paladins really have their avoidance to credit this spot above Warrior tanks? What's the consensus of Tankspot for this?
I also want to be able to survive more than I've been able to, and I'm going to respec and reglyph to fit in that nice two-minute Shield Wall. It just seems more and more difficult to know when to pop my vast array of trinket and ability cooldowns.
Wasn't sure whether to put this post in advice, or mechanics. I'm talking a bit about both here, so.
First: blocking is not avoidance.
Second: While paladins block more often, warrior block for more when they block becuase of critical block and shieldblock. It's supposed to even out.
K, lets assume (for simplicity) 22% dodge, 18% parry, 20%block with 1400 SBV.
Our "Boss" is on a 1s swing timer (again for simplicity) and hits for 10k each hit.
Our Paladin is keeping his Holy Shield up
per minute breakdown
Block -------------12-------------30
Hit ----------------18-------------0
Damage reduced --16800---------42000
not very close
Now let's assume our Warrior is keeping shield block on CD (Double SBV for 10s, unhittable for 10s)
Avoid ---------------30------------ 30
Block --------------16.5 (4.5)------ 30
Hit ------------------13.5 --------- 0
Damage Reduced ----23100 ------ 42000
reason for the change: Shield Block is up 25% of the time, talented. Per minute it will spend an average of 15s up, half of those seconds wasted by avoidance mechanics. Shield Block will affect 7.5 blocks, 3 of those blocks being blocks that occur anyway. Add in +60% from Critical Block and the damage reduced increases to 36960. That's still a 5k difference, but this is over the course of a minute. Take in to consideration that Shield Block gives you the option to reduce incoming damage by more during the worst of it, and it should balance out a little bit more.
60% avoidance----------- 20% block
Dam Red------36960 ------ 33600
I jacked the avoidance by 10% to show a point. Warriors start out behind on block, but as their avoidance increases the value of their block eventually becomes greater than the Pallys. The Pally is pushing his block off the table with avoidance (the same avoidance Warriors have access to).
I hope that's not too hard to follow, and I especially hope I didn't mess up somewhere in there.
Last edited by Petninja; 11-03-2009 at 04:00 AM. Reason: Cosmetics
It's also worth noting that paladins will not be block capped in Icecrown.
orc already mentioned that blocking isn't avoidance and that's a very good first point. Even if pallies get miss/dodge/block/parry on each attack they are still being hit. Otherwise you wouldn't need a healer :P. They are just mitigating some % of damage or avoiding on each hit.
The difference is mainly in the healing profile difference of the two classes. Warriors tend to have a "spikier" profile than paladins because shield block isn't a constant effect and critical blocks makes each block more effective when a block does occur.
So it isn't necessarily that the warrior takes more or less damage than an equally skilled/geared paladin, it's that they take damage at a different rate and healers need to adjust their healing strategy to accomodate.
I see. So I shouldn't let my guild make me feel like I'm a lesser tank just because I'm doing everything I can-- and I really am--, and I'm still dying. The paladin just seems easier to heal, then.
easier isn't the right word. There are healing groups that have a lot of trouble with a paladin but can keep up their warrior tank without batting an eye.
I looked at your gear and im very jealous. I have no idea why any healer would have a difficult time with keeping you alive unless the pally is equally or better geared (if thats possible). The only change you can make imo is to change your glyphs/spec for more survival type stuff. Improved shield wall and glyph of shield wall, glyph of block. I guess these are more MT'ish glyphs/spec.
Last edited by Bung; 11-03-2009 at 07:23 AM.
Your expertise is below the dodge cap, which is hurting your threat, but it also means you're being parried fairly often. Extra parry hasted attacks will also increase your damage intake and the chances for multiple hits in a row within a short period of time.
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"Unhittable" has pretty limited value these days. Without crushing blows, it comes down to specific encounter mechanics, and those are not many that "unhittable" becomes a crucial value.
I don't think any of the tanking classes are particularly "automatic" so to speak, each class/spec has their passive tools and their active abilities that all get used differently.
The (Old) Book on Death Knight Tanking
The New Testament on Death Knight Tanking
As a healer:
You're dying because the healers are convinced they can't keep you alive, so they don't try as hard. They figure (perhaps subconsciously) that if you die enough they'll put a nice "easy" paladin tank in place of you.
They sabotage their own efforts, even if that's not what they consciously mean to do.
I say this with conviction because I have healed all classes of tanks in a variety of encounters with no real noticeable difference in difficulty. The pattern of damage may differ but it's only "harder" if you are unfamiliar with it.
Well, this is mine
The World of Warcraft Armory
And this is the Paladin.
The World of Warcraft Armory
It's difficult to say who is really the better geared tank. He has Heroic Pieces I don't have, but he had zero tier armor. I'm rocking a four-set tier 9, but my guild favors him extensively. I know the fights as well as he does, when things happen, when bosses gain buffs that make them hit harder, and that's never when I die. I die to stupid things l like regular melee hits, things that are more difficult to predict.
Talking gear score, I'm well above his. He usually packs more stamina than I do, but he's recently gained several sockets over me, and he stacks two stamina trinkets. I prefer different combinations.
The lack of tier gear doesn't really matter as much for him. The 4 piece set bonus is a nice one, but honestly the pieces themselves aren't all awesomeness. He did well to get the Onyxia helm and Jaraxxus legs.
His double stam trinkets are going to be a bigger advantage on some fights.
Dayon, if the healers are saying you're harder to heal, it's either their imagination, or you're doing something really strange, like turning your back or not using cooldowns right.
Your gear is fine, and your spec is fine. Next time you raid, keep an eye on a damage meter. Look at your damage intake compared to the paladin, then look at your healing intake compared to the paladin. That'll give you a better idea of how the healers are spending their resources, which could be a source of the problem.
It's really really important to build a good relationship of trust with your healers. Show them what you're doing to help them, and they'll do what they can to help you.
Both of you have stats that are close to the other looks like maybe a 1-2% difference in avoidance but that isn't factoring his libram which might boost his dodge up a good bit.
You'd prolly have to look at the logs and meters and put together a spreadsheet to figure out what is going on. It might just "seem" that you are harder to heal but the data might really be different but ppl are biased for some reason.
Former healbot now a Disgruntled protection warrior.
Concur with the above
- The pally has made some clever gear choices gearscore and no tier pieces his EH is slightly higher.
- Both tanks are surviving the big hit tests so when working right there is no difference.
- If the warrior is dying to normal melee hits the tank or the healers are doing something wrong .... time for some logs
Question: Is the pally tanks HP diving really low when he is tanking what you call the normal part of the fight?
** Remember Warcraft players fail in directions you never thought possible.


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Movement 1: Allegro grazioso
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Movement 2: Largo cantabile
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The 'Allegro grazioso' begins and ends in B, with two big climaxes in E flat and G respectively. It adopts a gently swinging, fast triple-time pulse that suggests a faint reminiscence of Nielsen, one of Simpson's lifelong idols. The movement begins quietly, but with a great sense of latent energy as the music naturally evolves from the initial motif heard at the outset on violins and violas.
Placed on either side of the two climaxes are two fugatos: the first for strings alone is strong, determined, whereas the second, begun by the woodwind, skips along with much mischief and jollity. After the second climax has subsided, the opening theme returns at a slower tempo, gradually fading away into silence as the first bar of the Symphony is repeated several times.
The slow movement is placed second and is cast as a theme with thirteen variations on a gravely beautiful unharmonised viola melody which revolves gently from E flat to G. In fact, with the exception of the last five bars, the movement is strictly palindromic, so that the oscillation between keys is reversed half way through. The middle variations, which are all pianissimo, seem to provide a 'still centre' to the whole Symphony and perhaps evoke the immensities of a nocturnal, star-lit sky.
The Finale returns to the original key of B. It is a strong, stamping movement with a tigerish energy and rhythmic drive similar in spirit to the last movement of Beethoven's Seventh Symphony which is acknowledged as an important influence. As with the Beethoven, it is astonishing to hear how Simpson can make this Finale roar whilst still employing an orchestra of relatively modest proportions. The overall structure mirrors that of the opening Allegro, with the first climax in E flat and the recapitulation grafted on to the second climax in G. An extended coda is needed to restore the key of B with the greatest force. When this is achieved the movement ends abruptly with considerable vigour.
from notes by Matthew Taylor © 1992


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You must be asking what does a bloom from a succulent had to do with the theme, right? Okay here goes the story:
Most of the images I feature here are SOOC (straight out of camera). And sometimes I crop a bit, or auto fix a bit. Shame on me and my three or four photo editing software (none of them was a PhotoShop) for not utilizing them.
So one day, I got this totally washed out image of a succulent that I was going to delete because it was completely crappy. But before I hit delete, I thought I'd use it as a guinea pig to test the buttons on my software. And just when I decided to remove almost all the gamma, this was the result. Boy was I surprised! I loved how dramatic it turned out. Not only did I not delete the image, I showcased it for photo hunt theme of surprise.
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Friday, August 28, 2009
Photo Hunt #52: Surprise
You must be asking what does a bloom from a succulent had to do with the theme, right? Okay here goes the story:
30 comments:
- Mar said...
No idea what you did but it's fantastic :)
Surprise! my post is up...
- August 28, 2009 10:54 AM
- Carver said...
What a great idea for the theme and a beautiful shot. Happy weekend.
- August 28, 2009 11:15 AM
- Liz said...
Excellent fixing! Great photo.
- August 28, 2009 12:09 PM
- Kayni said...
amazing how it came out as pretty as that =).
- August 28, 2009 12:13 PM
- Annie said...
Wow, I would have been surprised too - it's a wonderful photo. Excellent take on the theme.
- August 28, 2009 12:14 PM
- Colin Campbell said...
I love succulent flowers. Brief and glorious
- August 28, 2009 4:03 PM
- jmb said...
That sounds like me, the queen of cropping and autofix. But those programs do have so much more if we would take the trouble to explore a bit.
Happy weekend to you.
- August 28, 2009 4:38 PM
- upto6only said...
hey that is really beautiful. I wonder what will that looks like when it blooms?
mine is up too.
happy Weekend
- August 28, 2009 6:17 PM
- Mari said...
first word that came out of my mouth when i saw the picture was: oh, WOW!
it is gorgeous!
- August 28, 2009 6:29 PM
- YTSL said...
I, too, generally am a fan of SOOC. (And for the record, that's the case with all the photos I've taken and put up on the blog.) But have to say: this altered photo sure turned out to be a beauty! :)
- August 28, 2009 6:36 PM
- ancient one said...
That is nice and you were about to destroy it... I loved the photo stuff on my old computer... but not so much on the new one. I need to play around more... maybe I could save more photos... Good post!
- August 28, 2009 7:37 PM
- gengen said...
That is a good choice for the theme it is a surprise indeed..happy weekend and mine is ready too.
- August 28, 2009 8:01 PM
- Bengbeng said...
it is a lovely shot not meant for a delete :)
- August 28, 2009 8:05 PM
- candi said...
It looks lovely, and not photo-shopped at all.
Happy weekend!
- August 28, 2009 8:20 PM
- Sidney said...
Looks great ! Wonderful intense colors !
- August 28, 2009 9:01 PM
- Luke said...
A great effect. Nice job resurrecting this shot.
- August 28, 2009 10:55 PM
- CRIZ LAI said...
That was indeed a great find. By the way, thanks for dropping in earlier. I really needed some comfort. It's hard to let go of someone you love.
- August 29, 2009 12:35 AM
- CRIZ LAI said...
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- August 29, 2009 12:37 AM
- Your EG Tour Guide said...
Very nice surprise! Your software turned this into a beauty!
- August 29, 2009 1:43 AM
- julie said...
What a pleasant surprise :)
- August 29, 2009 1:58 AM
- Naturegirl said...
Great capture how ever you did it!
- August 29, 2009 6:22 AM
- Life Ramblings said...
i love the effects. well done. :)
- August 29, 2009 6:45 AM
- don said...
The result is a very successful experimental image!
Good for you. A wonderful image.
- August 29, 2009 8:14 AM
- Imaginerf said...
I like very much both composition and colourtones !
- August 29, 2009 9:16 AM
- syel said...
oh what a surprise indeed! the bud is really lovely, well, the enhancing has paid off! i'm a lazy bum as well. i just do a little tweaking. i'm not fond of complex pp techniques. :)
- August 29, 2009 9:26 AM
- Pietro said...
Fine color and great contrast! Beautiful!
- August 30, 2009 11:14 AM
- Ginnie said...
Now THAT was a very nice surprise, Maria!!! Good for you. :)
- August 30, 2009 5:52 PM
- EastCoastLife said...
It is brilliant!
Love the orange colour which is the theme for next week! ;)
- August 31, 2009 7:26 AM
- witsandnuts said...
I'm inspired by the story. I normally delete trashy shots. But nothing's trashy enough pala.=)
- September 02, 2009 12:59 AM
- Pacey said...
We really get beautiful surprises most of the times and this is one of them...really marvelous...
- September 06, 2009 9:40 AM


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