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Yet for all its professional frustrations, 1773 was a fruitful year for the seventeen-year-old Mozart. In Vienna he produced a set of string quartets, K168–173, under the influence of Haydn's recent quartets Opp 9, 17 and 20. Autumn saw the composition of the 'little' G minor Symphony, K183, the earliest of his symphonies in the regular repertoire today. Then in December he wrote his first keyboard concerto, K175, and revised and completed a string quintet, with two violas, he had begun some time between his return from Italy and his Viennese sojourn. The immediate stimulus for this relatively novel instrumental combination (the numerous quintets Boccherini composed in Madrid from around 1770 all use two cellos) seems to have been a Notturno in C major by Mozart's Salzburg friend and colleague Michael Haydn, younger brother of Joseph. Throughout his life Mozart loved the dusky sonority of the viola, always his instrument of choice when he played chamber music with friends. Beyond that, prompted by Michael Haydn's charming, lightweight Notturno, he was evidently eager to explore a medium that enabled him to indulge his fondness for dark, saturated textures and rich inner part-writing.
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Jets linebacker Bart Scott met with reporters this afternoon to clarify comments he made regarding fans who greeted the Jets as they entered the MetLife Stadium tunnel at halftime of Thursday's game against the Patriots.
Scott was quoted by the Daily News as saying, "The person yelling at you probably was picked last in dodgeball all through high school."
The 11th-year veteran met with head coach Rex Ryan to discuss the matter and said he was making a generalization with his above quote.
This afternoon No. 57 told reporters that he has a tremendous amount of respect for the fans and the sacrifices they make. But he also stressed that he is always going to protect his team and organization.
"I mean, it's freedom of speech, you know?" Scott said. "You can say what you want. I mean, as long as nobody gets physical or puts their hands on you, they'll understand. But we should also understand that within those stands are family members, are wives, are kids and they have to live that. But I guess that's what we sign up for."
Ryan and Scott both agree that fans are going to display their frustrations when their team isn't winning and isn't performing at a high level, and that players and coaches shouldn't allow what fans say affect them.
"We've got to appreciate our fans," Ryan said. "Obviously in the good times it's much easier than in the bad times."
Scott wouldn't say how long his conversation with Ryan lasted, but he said he understands where the coach is coming from.
"That's the way it is in the life of a public figure," the 2006 Pro Bowl selection said. "We live in a fishbowl and everything we do is analyzed and criticized. I don't read into it and I don't buy it. It takes a family member or someone who knows me to tell me what someone is saying and I take it all in stride, because at the end of the day, I know who and what I am and what I stand for."
Scott, who has been battling through a turf toe injury most of the season, said he remembers when former NFL quarterback Tommy Maddox had a bad game and fans dumped trash and litter at his house.
"Is that wrong? I don't know," Scott said.
With a 4-7 record, it hasn't been an easy year on the Jets players or their fans. Yet as one of the Green & White's most outspoken leaders, Scott believes good things can still transpire.
"We all came into this season with expectations," he said. "But I think the real true character of a man is tested when things aren't going well. Anybody can sit up here and answer questions and do things when it's easy, when it's convenient. But when times get tough, that's when a real man steps up and shows his true character."
Yes, the fans were embarrassed by the Patriots game. The players were as well. Scott just hopes they will stay behind them the rest of the season.
"We're practicing hard and we're trying to finish it," he said. "Hopefully with these last five games, we can make our fans proud, and Jets Nation and Gang Green feel like that we fought for them and that we put a good product out on the field for them."
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There was some movement on the Jets' injury report today, most of it favorable. WR Jeremy Kerley (heel/hamstring/illness), WR Chaz Schilens (concussion/hip) and LB Bart Scott (toe) all went from being limited during team drills Wednesday to being full-go today, and CB Aaron Berry (quad) went from DNP to limited. WR Clyde Gates (concussion) remained sidelined and S LaRon Landry (heel) did not practice in keeping with his weekly routine. G Brandon Moore (hip) was limited. New to the 20-player list today: LB Ricky Sapp (ankle, limited) and CB Kyle Wilson (illness, full).
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By harry-o on Nov 29, 2012 | Reply
the jets can win the last five games
but still not have beaten any half decent teams ( indy was very bad at the time)
even if they finished 9-7 , they "re going to need help for a wild card.
it's along shot, but it's good to have that kind of momentum heading into the post season. to win your last five , you must be doing something right. think of it a single game elimination, you loose . your out.
By scjoe on Nov 29, 2012 | Reply
For those fellow Jet fans still under the illusion that Rex Ryan is calling the shots at the draft table and in the locker room, and the Woody Johnson interview a couple of weeks ago proclaiming that Mike "Millian" Tannenbaum has the final say on ALL personnel decisions was not enough to convince you, maybe the Cimini piece on ESPN NY will. In an interview with Jets OL coach Dave DeGuglielmo re: the Slauson – Ducasse debacle at LG, Dave D states that the "platoon" is a directive from "hi above me" (Tannenbaum) That my friends, tells you all you need to know!
By Bennett on Nov 29, 2012 | Reply
I read the Sanchez supporters over the past years, the stats. I even began to doubt myself somtimes and than I would watch him in a game and I would say is it me or is this kid just plain bad. Just to many basic flaws. For the life of me I can't see how he was so successfull in colleage. One thing I never doubted was that I think I know QB's pretty well, grew up watching Johnny U and have seen all the great modern QB's in action. For my money it's still THE GREAT Joe Montana, absolutley a joy to watch in action, the footwork,quick release,and the deadly accuracy ( I guess having Jerry Rice didn't hurt ). Weak arm ? He would kill you in a second with the long ball, blow the whole game wide open, the other team would never knew what hit it.
By sal cottone on Nov 29, 2012 | Reply
Freedom of Speech, thats right. What Bart and Rex still dance around the fact that since the 2 have been here, the house has changed..the players brought in to replace the players,some not in their prime but still producing but most important, were leaders. There were no locker room issues, talent wise some would say players over achieved. Tired of hearing about the first 2 season's with Rex. Its history. Now the foundation is damaged, beyond repair? Who knows, both Rex and Scott will be gone before training camp So why bother with this media thing w/Scott, its old hat, like the first 2 seasons. I compare Rex with Joe Torre"s situation, both were handed good teams, a good coach wins and builds.. the other, well here we are, with T-bow!
By sal cottone on Nov 29, 2012 | Reply
Iam not bashing T-Bow, not by a long shot.In fact I think the Jets are killing his chances of starting in this league again. He is not a orthodox player, cant hit the broad side of a barn, unless it means winning or loosing, and most times guys like this will hit it, when it counts. called heart ,desire, deternination faith, what ever..He had it, and hope he gets it back again. If Woody wants to show he is sincere about his thoughts about the kid start him rest of the season, Screw Rex and his thoughts, look where it got the franchize!…Cowher..Mangini….for xmas please!
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 29, 2012 | Reply
The old saying "The child is father to the man" doesn't mean that the child often grows up and schools the man, though that does sometimes happen. It means that in the child, you can often see the outline of the future man-to-be. And so it is analogously with Rex. The first player that he famously went after upon getting the Jets HC job was Bart Scott, a player who for at least two yrs now has been much more about attitude than accomplishment, more about mouth than motor, more about sass than skill…just like the HC who signed him and brought him to the Jets.
By Alvaro Medina on Nov 29, 2012 | Reply
If we had an offensive line Sanchez could get to work ; However the Jets offensive line allowed Mark to get sacked,hurried, and rushed all night long!!!
By Karan on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
I'm not a big fan of people heckling players but the way the Jets have been playing this season, I can say the organization shouldn't be surprised by it, they brought it upon themselves.
By Karan on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
OL Coach pretty much verified who's in charge around here, and he did it furiously, at least that's what the sources say. I can understand his frustration, Woody Johnson needs to show Tannenbumm the door. I can also understand the frustraton people have with Mark Sanchez and Rex Ryan, but the "man in charge" of this roster and who's giving orders to have Ducasse split snaps with Slauson which makes absolutely no sense should be shown the door. I know many people are to blame for this season's flaws, however personally, I think the number reason for this horrible season is Mike Tannenbaum. Hope Woody comes to his senses and fires this guy.
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
Cimini writes of "The Sanchez audition: With $8.25 million in guaranteed money for 2013, QB Mark Sanchez is a virtual lock to be on the team next season, but his status as the starter could hinge on how he plays over the final five games. If he doesn't improve, the Jets almost certainly will bring in a challenger. Alex Smith? Michael Vick? Matt Flynn? Those are some of the names that will surface as possibilities." Of course, challengers of this kind, as opposed to a high 2013, draft choice, shoulda been brought in last off-season, as with my suggestions back then of Campbell or Orton. Out of these three, the only one that I think is young enough to possibly have a big future is Flynn, if he doesn't turn out to be another Cassel.
By Bennett on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
This bunch took a team that was really just a few smart moves from a Super Bowl and turned it in to not only a lossing team but a joke. In just 2 short years. I said awhile back if the team preforms like they have this season there is one person in this whole awful franchise that really is to blame and thats the GM. I have rarely seen one arrogant, unqualified know it all do so much damage in such a short time to an organization. If this isn't apparent to the owner I don't know how more plain it could be. First step off-season you sack him and start taking some control of your team. To leave it in his hands was a very, very poor move
By Bennett on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
Sanchez and Tebow laughting on the sidelines during an awfull 0-4 preseason, T-baum laughting in the booth at half time comfortable in his cloak of arrogance and incompetance . Ryan with his ridiculous upbeat press conferances,OH AHHH the secret plans for that huge game changer Tebow. What a big joke it was HAH HAH were 0-3 and haven.t scored a touch down, LETS HAVE A PARTY. You deserve every bit of fan scorn your geting in that tunnel.. It is humiliating to now be known as a Jet fan. Play like a JET? Yeah you sure are. Same old Jets ? nahh your the worst
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
The clown show gets worse: "DeGuglielmo made it clear he's not in favor of the Matt Slauson-Vladimir Ducasse platoon at LG. He said the platoon, in which Ducasse plays every 3rd series, is a directive from "high above me." It fuels speculation that GM Mike Tannenbaum, who has taken a lot of heat for using a 2nd-round pick on the disappointing Ducasse, is calling the shots. Asked to evaluate Ducasse, DeGuglielmo said, "He's playing well enough to be an every-3rd-series guy — maybe." DeG has obviously just submitted his resignation, and who can blame him? What does this say about how much Rex or anyone who knows jack about football is really in charge of this team? Don't tell me Curtis Martin would tolerate this jive if HE owned the Jets!
By Kenny on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
The reason why fans are hating is because the organization makes so many bad decisions. Look at this past off season, what did they do to improve the team? Tebow? That isn't working to well, now is it Woody? How about the whole Wayne Hunter thing? Tony Sparano? We have one of the worst offenses this season.That was a huge failure. Extending Sanchez's contract? Horrible decision, make him work for his job and tell him to stop being a damn sissyboy. Did I mention what a failure the draft was? We got rid of most of those guys. The real problem lies within Woody, and Tannenbaum. Rex also needs to let go of players. I hate to say this but things will not get better anytime soon.
Also, we need a new QB coach.
By since shea on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
Lets not get too hung up on Scott. He is history in 5 weeks. Look at nyjetscap.com to see the 2013 salary structures, cap hits and soft money (thats the amount that Woody pays out of pocket to lose players). Highest paid player next year is $13M David Harris, SI 's pick for most overpaid athlete in NFL. Look how much Sanchez and Santonio must get from Woody to leave! No way Woody gives them that much to go. Look at the rest that we are stuck with. Mr T not the shrewd CAP master we thought. But, look at those who we can get rid of without much problem. You are the new Mr T. Who are you keeping or dealing based on jetscap.com?
By ron alexander on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
As someone who has competed at a high level but is also a long time season ticket holder I can understand both sides of this situation.Most players do give maximum effort while competing so it is difficult to hear the boo's and obsenities shouted by fans (some of whom cross the line due to alcohol or who knows what?) However, as Scott himself pointed out, when you are lucky enough to make it as a pro athlete you are exposing yourself to the critisism that goes with it.When you play hard and loose a close game you may hear a smattering of boos.However, when you put on a stinker like the N.E.debacle you have to expect a lot more than a smattering of boos.People out late on a holiday have had lots of time to drink and frustration clearly sets-
By ron alexander on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
cont.- in when a team performs like the jets did last Thursday. That is no excuse for the fans who behaved poorly but again, it comes with the territory.
By Westcoast GangGreen on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
WELL Scot, freedom of speech? There is good points you make, you signed up for this. But, the fans have a right to smack and vent, to a certain point. Rex stats it's easier to accept when were winning. Than start winning and quit creatting this circus of a team. Yeah, it's frustrating, but, how do you think true JET fans feel with all to many lost seasons after seson…
By Byrdman on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
This is more evidence of the "3 Ring Circus" atmosphere on the Jets. Rex has lost this team with his frat-house mentality and lack of discipline. Look at all the elite teams in the NFL, the players respect a HC who holds them accountable for their performance on the field. The well coached teams reach the SB through discipline and playing as one unit, trusting that their coach has a strategy and game plan to win. What are Jet players thinking at this point? Is it as obvious to players (as it is to us) that this whole organization is a dysfunctional zoo – NOT a professional football team ?
By Mike V on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
Scott is a huge liability and needs to go. His speed is just a memory and every decent QB is going to throw right at him anytime he is in a game. Brady made that obvious to everyone.
By kenny on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
I will say it again you just wait until next year!!!!!!!!!!
By Joe on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
Bart theres a simple solution here =GIVE BACK THE MILLIONS IN SALARY YOU RECIEVED TO ACTUALLY CONTEND FOR THE SB ECT .Bart once your playing for nothing the fans dont have a leg to stand on .You have got some nerve my friend .THE WAY THIS TEAM HAS PLAYED YOU GUYS SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED TO TAKE YOUR SALARY
By Joe on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
Could you guys image any player under A SUCCESSFULL COACH (PARCELLS ,BELLICHICK )RUNNING HIS MOUTH LIKE REX HAS ALLOWED SCOTT TO DO .(BYRDMAN your exactly correct)This entire FIASCO is a prime example of why PARCELLS NEVER ALLOWED PLAYERS TO TALK TO THE MEDIA.It is disrespectful on my part to EVEN BRING UP PARCELLS NAME NEXT TO RYAN (ONE COACH IS GOING TO THE HOF THE OTHER IS GOING TO BE FIRED )
By SCfromNY on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
Pretty much what everyone said. Scott calling out loudmouths. One of the biggest trash talkers as well as the once least likely to back up his talk.
As for Sanchez next year: Perhaps we could trade him if we assume 50% of his salery which would not be terrible. there must be one team out there who thinks he has potential. Or how about a package deal to a franchise in need of help and media attention. Sanchez, Tebow, Sporano, and rex to the Chiefs for draft choices I can dream! Or salery wise; it costs the jets the same dollars for Sanchez, McElroy, and Tebow's replacement whether Sancez starts or not. Pay the same price but win games with a new #1 QB.
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply
scjoe, I'd heed Byrdman's words on Rex. Of course, the very idea of a HC who isn't brilliant and completely up to date on O is ridiculous to begin with. But where is the evidence that Rex is any good at drafting, grooming, motivating, or earning the respect of players? We have one of the most undisciplined rosters in the NFL, and certainly the most undisciplined roster the Jets have ever had, both on and off the field. You're telling me this is just an accident? As opposed to a crystal-clear reflection of our HC? Not bloody likely. We'll get better when everyone from Woody on down to the most casual fan stops getting off on Rex's childish, rudderless behavior and starts thinking seriously about how to build a winning Jet team IN NY!
By ron alexander on Dec 1, 2012 | Reply
BYRDMAN, Awsome post! I cant imagine anyone saying it better!
By Charliejet on Dec 1, 2012 | Reply
Kenny wait until next year and???
By Byrdman on Dec 1, 2012 | Reply
Thanks Ron and Joe – I loved Rex in 09, I remember thinking " YES,, the Jets FINALLY got the right guy! Started to see some red flags in "Hard Knocks" episodes; the loose, college dorm or frat-house look of training camp. Rex tries too hard to be a "big brother" or "Buddy" to NFL players. My observation is that his initial success (09,10) was with Mangini's team and NOW we are witnessing how a "Rex Ryan" team performs. Every SB winning team I've ever seen had a coach that players RESPECTED, many FEARED, and some actually HATED. Every winning team I've ever played on had a coach that was a STRICT DISCIPLINARIAN, type of guy that would bench good players for goofing-off in practice or making mental errors in games. Rex NEVER does !
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 1, 2012 | Reply
Byrdman, you keep hitting it out of the park! Where have you been for the last few years? Just don't tell me that you're really Row or Ranger 46 in disguise!
By Byrdman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply
64Tom – Haha, No I'm not Ranger or Row. Been reading this "Radar" blog for years but just started posting this season. This is a solid group we've got here, I enjoy the back and forth and read every comment so I'm not redundant with my posts. I figure I'm mostly just writing what many of you folks here are thinking. It's not easy being a Jet fan :D but this blog is sorta like therapy, Know what I mean?
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Vindicated Slightly on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply
Absolutely agree about the therapeutic aspect, Byrdman, very difficult to deal with some of this stuff without letting off some steam after the steamy 8 hours or so at the sports bar. Just today, for instance, I feel an enormous weight lifted off my shoulder with the revelation on Rex's part that McElroy exists. P.S. Cool pen name you've go there, too, since the Byrds were one of the greatest, most influential rock bands ever.
By Byrdman on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply
Yes, great observation Jetfan Tom – The Byrds song "8 miles high" referred to the 40 thousand foot flight elevation some commercial "JETS" reach. Great Band, amazing harmonies ! Of course I'm using it here primarily as a tribute to Dennis Byrd, a player who's brief career and miraculous recovery was an inspiration and example for Jet players today. This Jets team desperately needs more "Byrd" type players. Put 11 Dennis Byrds on Defense and you've got a SB caliber D
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Vindicated Slightly on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply
Based on what he did in speaking to the team a few yrs ago, Byrdman, I think Dennis Byrd would probably make a better HC than Rex! As for "Eight Miles High," that was my favorite song for many yrs, still right up there in my top 3 or 4 today…
By Byrdman on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply
64 Tom – Yeah I hear ya, It would be perfect in my opinion if Curtis Martin owned the Jets and great players like Dennis Byrd held prominent positions in the front office, coaching and scouting college talent. Guarantee they'd build a winner here. Heck Woody would be smart if he brought in guys like C-Mart and D -Byrd and said "Help Me guys,, where can I find kids that played the game like you both did, can you help the scouting dept find the NEXT Curtis Martin and Dennis Byrd, instead of these bums we've been drafting"


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since every "tank" cape, ring, and some 2-H weps we might use have strength, what does Str work out to in feral form? 2AP?
Just kind of curious on peoples' thoughts on King of the Jungle + 4piece bonus. Looking at Darksend's math on how little dmg KotJ adds(less than 1% even if your hitting enrage at exactly the 60 cd mark), it still seems like it would help with a small threat boost at the very start of a boss encounter.
Strength – provides attack power
1 Str = 2.37864 AP (2.616504 AP) (Cat)
1 Str = 2.1624 AP (2.37864 AP) (Bear)
1 Str = 2.292144 AP (2.5213584 AP) (Bear with PotP)
Agility – Main tanking avoidance stat. We are in love with you.
1 Agi = 1.18932 AP (1.308252 AP) (Cat only)
1 Agi = 0.0129744% (0.01427184%) Crit
1 Agi = 0.0225641% (0.0248206%) Dodge
1 Agi = 2.1624 (2.37864) Armor
77.075 (70.068) Agi = 1% Crit
44.318 (40.289)Agi = 1% Dodge
Stamina – Provides health, a major tanking stat.
1 Sta = 10.812 (11.8932) Health (Cat)
1 Sta = 14.8665 (16.35315) Health (Bear)
Intellect – Practically useless for tanking.
1 Int = 19.4616 (21.40776) Mana
1 Int = 0.00778464% (0.0085631%) Spell Crit
125.458 (116.780) Int = 1% Spell Crit
Strength is very undesirable stat since patch 4.0 as Agility gives same attack power to bears and goodies like crit/dodge (no longer increase Armor). General consensus is that apart from stamina Agi is the main both defensive and offensive stat for bears, followed by crit (defensive value of crit is more Savage Defense uptime)
So with new mechanics, you are just fine tanking with "dps" items with agility and avoid any "tank" cape, ring and weap. Some dodge rating can be added via reforging
I will not run any longer.... I will face my darkness.... I will have my revenge....
Hey there. I recently returned to WoW to prepare myself for Cata, and found myself losing every instance run. Why? Cause with Swipe practically removed i have no aoe and it's really hard to keep more than 4 mobs on me at same time.
Can anyone post new tread regarding new Cataclysm Feral tank combat mechanics or give some advice? Anything would be helpful for this is madness.
We all have same problem mate, guess we got to wait for our 2nd AoE threat, Trash, till lvl83 while other tanks got 2 of them already. Its on the same CD as swipe so there can be sort of rotation of those, while single targeting stuff.
For now I recommed glyphing Maul and using Berserk/Mangle on when you can. You will have hard time with triggerhappy kiddos overgered from running heroics 24/7
I will not run any longer.... I will face my darkness.... I will have my revenge....
In WotLK, the talent tree was set up in such a way that you really had to choose one or the other, but I ran as a hybrid through all of TBC, and it's looking like it might be possible again with the new talent tree. I'd like to get some more input.
Here's a sample talent build that has both crucial cat and bear talents:
There is maneuverability here too. You could add a point to BitW and remove one from Carnage. I'm still toying around with whether I even want Pulverize or not. I'm not having any threat issues so far without it and Savage Defense is always up right after it's knocked off anyhow. Sure, it has its benefits, but it looks like it might have been added more to fill in our rotation than anything else due to all the added CDs. Lacerate is the only move not on a CD, so they add pulverize to clear those stacks so you aren't just refreshing lacerate each application. Kinda lame, in my opinion.
You could potentially not take Master Shapeshifter, which would allow you to fill either BitW or Carnage, plus take either a reduced stun build with Brutal Impact or fill Primal Madness. While Master Shapeshifter is down to 3 points from 5, you still have to completely waste two points (natural shapeshifter prereq) to obtain it. Can they be better spent?
Is anyone else toying around with hybrid builds? What have you found thus far?
Oh, and a brief response to the comment about lack of aoe threat until thrash...the new content was also designed with the intent of signifying a return to crowd-control. Theoretically, you shouldn't be aoe tanking near as much. When you're dealing with pulls of 5 and 6 where 3-4 should be CCed, you've got lots of options for getting aggro on the remaining 2-3. Feral charge/FFF one, switch targets, mangle a second, then switch and taunt another. Then once all three are rounded up, swipe, maul, etc. Oh, and we're druids so there's always a personal favorite of mine...cast some hots on yourself and open with moonfire (remember when there was no feral faerie fire???) before you go into the above pull. Now you've got some healer aggro as well, plus bought the healer a few seconds before they start generating aggro themselves.
Last edited by lucero; 12-14-2010 at 08:00 AM. Reason: added the parenthetical comment about FFF
True CC is needed for trash, but there is now a lot more boss fights that have a ton of adds that tanks need to pickup. The fact that most the time when tanking I am out of rage so can't swipe or the swipe and thrash are on a cooldown leaves our only AoE is our Taunt that has a 1 minute cooldown. With all the DPS and everyone having to move a lot when adds are out makes getting aggro on the 10-15 adds a pain for melee tanks.
I am also stunned they took away bash as a method of interrupt case in point Baron Ashbury in H SFK now our Skull Bash 1 minute cooldown is not up enough for us to a reliable interrupt. I had planned for my Skull bash scheduled for Asphixiate, but it is not up for each one only every other.
And if doing it randomly you may not have enough interrupts to even do the boss at all.
With the cooldowns on Swipe and Thrash I am having issues keeping threat off the healer ( Hall of Origination and last boss in Throne of Tides examples) when tanking a big group of 5-8 while kiting, and especially Pally healers.
I have noticed a severe lack of Cata Druid love on the forums so far, so I figured I would post at least a spec and some "this is what I'm doing" tips.
First, here is a little background:
- Here is my armory profile: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ndicano/simple. Check that if you would like to see my current tank spec and gear.
- At the time of this post, no, I am not 85
- No, my gear is not tweaked out. I'm tanking in greens and a few blues, nothing special.
- I am not claiming to be super leet or that I know everything. This is just what I am doing currently and it has worked for me.
- If you are super leet, this is probably not for you since you have already figured this out in your infinite awesomeness.
- I have been instancing since 83 with guildies who have already hit 85 and I have no issues with keeping aggro/threat. Again, this is what works for me. If you are reading this, you probably are seeking help and it can't hurt to try this. If it doesn't work for you, my apologies, at least you gave it a try.
Things I'm a little iffy on:
- Pulverize: No longer iffy. This is required for tanking any Cata heroics as bear.
- I will probably be changing to this spec soon since I find I don't shift out a lot and Brutal Impact feels more right considering the need for interrupts in Cata instances: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#0ZdrGf...zMcz:0rqzwZMmz
- Glyph of Frenzied Regeneration: I can see where it may be a lot more useful later. In my current situation, I find that if I am low enough on health to need FR, the healer is low on mana and +30% of 0 is no help at all.
Questions I've heard (from other bears):
Q: How am I supposed to hold multi-mob aggro now?
A: First off, mark your targets, at LEAST mark the one you want people killing. Assign the Skull mark to a button so that you can easily switch it when your current Skull dies. I am using the following rotation for AoE aggro on trash. Thrash > Swipe > Demo Shout > Mangle (on Skull) > Fill in the the cooldown gaps with tab > Lacerate (or Mangle if you have a free one up). Keep thrash up as often as possible. Swipe seems to be less important since Blizz nerfed the damage. Maul if you need something to dump rage, but I tend to use it sparingly. Try and get at least one Lacerate stack on as many mobs as you can. I've noticed that, on groups of 3 or more, I almost always have a free Mangle from Berserk.
Q: How do I hold aggro on single targets?
A: I'm sorry, what? Okay...I'll explain it anyways. I generally start off with front loading as much aggro as possible. If I'm starting with no rage, I will pop out and hit Thorns before starting. Pop Enrage (if <60 rage) > Pop Barkskin (if Enrage was popped, to negate damage increase from Enrage) > Faerie Fire > Feral Charge > Maul > Mangle > Demo Roar > Lacerate x3 > Pulverize. Mangle every time it comes off cooldown (from Berserk or normally, doesn't matter), other than that, I hit whatever comes off of cooldown and refresh any debuffs that fall off. If I find I have extra rage and nothing to do with it (which is rare), I may throw in a swipe for S's and G's or refresh Demo Roar if it will fall off soon.
Q: How do I deal with casters?
A: Yeah, I know...they suck. Hopefully you have some CC that can help you out with the casters until you get the melee down. If you have to just deal with it, do whatever you can to get them away from the CC. If there is no CC, just tank all mobs on the caster and DPS the caster down first.
Q: Demoralizing Roar...really? Why?
A: Because I love my healers, that's why. Every healer I've talked to has stated that they are having issues with mana in Cata. Anything I can do to help my healer, I do to help my healer.
Q: Thrash on a single target? Huh?
A: Without Pulverize, I find that I have an extra GCD to spare here and there. It is a decent bleed and fills the slot.
Q: Why don't you use Faerie Fire in your AoE rotation?
A: Because I don't have time and there are better buttons to hit (in my opinion). I may pull my Skull target with it, but that is generally only out of convenience.
Q: Why don't you use Pulverize?
A: In the original post of this information, I said Pulverize was garbage. I was wrong (again with the "not leet" thing). Pulverize is very useful in keeping up Savage Defense. It is the equivalent of adding 9% block for a warrior or pally.
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A: Cry...then level. Aside from BRC, I found I had a lot of problems tanking larger groups until I had Thrash. Now it is a cakewalk.
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A: First off, that isn't a question. Second, I figured all this out on my own. I may be missing something, it may be something huge. Third, where is your post trying to help people out? I figure that even a starting post to get discussion going is worth more than nothing. (This has been proven by the fact that I wasn't using Pulverize and I now am using it.
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- Now lvl 85. Spec reflects that
- Pulverize is necessary and not, in fact worthless or situationally useful.
Last edited by Fendi; 01-10-2011 at 10:26 AM.
Nice post Fendi,
I love pulverize of course, i am only level 70, but I have found that pulverize just makes me giggle a little inside when I use it!
@Fendi - Pulverize is a great threat increase, as you only use it when your Pulverize buff is expiring within, say, 3-4 seconds. The extra 9% crit that it grants by consuming 3 stacks of Lacerate is a great addition to the already amazing threat that Feral tanks can produce. My general use of Pulverize is usually (Single target mind you): Charge + FFF, Mangle, Pulverize (for immediate 3% crit increase), Lacerate x1, Thrash, Demo Roar, FFF (I've got mine talented once, so it stacks 2x per FFF), Lacerate 2x, Pulverize (to increase from 3% to 9%), then the usual threat rotation of Mangle on CD and proc, Thrash always on CD, Demo Roar always up, and Lacerate at 3 stacks, while maintaining the pulverize buff. I hope the Pulverize buff grows on you as it has for me.
@WastedSpace - If you take the time to review the Feral tree again, you'll notice that Brutal Impact 2/2 makes your Bash a 50 second CD, and your Skull Bash a 10 second CD, giving you your very own reliable interrupt. Skull Bash is so wonderful since Bliz kept it off the GCD.
@ Those having issues with AE Threat - Make sure to mark your targets. Generally, casters die first, since we have poor avoidance, since our only method of avoiding incoming damage is misses, dodges, and SD proc absorbs, in which Mastery increases the amount absorbed. Here's a pretty easy to maintain AE threat rotation that I have personally found to be very effective. Thrash and Swipe are both on a 6 second CD, and Mangle is on a 8 second CD. What does this mean to you? Start the pull by initiating with Feral Charge, along with a FFF in transit. Follow this up with a Thrash, as it generates more threat than Swipe, and it also leaves a bleed on all the targets it hits. Getting the bleed on the targets gives threat faster. Swipe is next, followed with a Mangle on the main target. If your DPS are smart and are focusing the kill target, then you would Lacerate once. Now your Thrash is coming off CD, so hit that next. Follow up with a Swipe and a Mangle, then switch to the next kill target.
This allows you to build threat on all the targets around you, while maintaining managable threat on the main kill target.
If you are running into the issue of breaking CCs while maintaining this AE threat rotation, let your CCers initiate the combat by using their CCs, and you grabbing immediate attention, NOT THREAT, on the rest of the active targets with a FFF. DO NOT CHARGE. You want to pull the mobile targets away from your CCd targets. This allows your CCs to stay immobilized, and the active ones to be subject to the above threat rotations.
Adjust these to your playstyle, and you won't have issues holding AE threat. For those who are not 83 yet, and actively tanking instances, just remember to tab target things, which allows you to generate AE threat, just the hard way.
Last edited by Kilikus; 12-30-2010 at 05:36 PM.
Thanks for the advice Kilikus. My problem with Pulverize is partially talent points. Given others that I feel are more useful, I can't find a point to drop late enough in the tree to pick it up. Given that Pulv feels situationally useful (boss fights) and I don't have any problem with boss encounter threat, I can't justify taking the point from another talent and putting it in Pulv.
I'm not shooting it down for you, others, or even myself, that is just my perspective. I would also be curious to see the talents/glyphs you are using, if you don't mind posting them.
It's more than just threat, that 9% has a significant effect on Savage Defense uptime.Given that Pulv feels situationally useful (boss fights) and I don't have any problem with boss encounter threat, I can't justify taking the point from another talent and putting it in Pulv.
In fact, I'd really say that threat is the least of the concerns with Pulverize. Practically an afterthought.
Given equivalently geared characters, bears should have more actual avoidance than other tanks. The gap is actually quite significant. It has been a common misconception since TBC that because Bears don't have parry we must have less avoidance for some reason.Generally, casters die first, since we have poor avoidance, since our only method of avoiding incoming damage is misses, dodges, and SD proc absorbs,
I assume you were referring to avoidance from magical damage in your comment, but I figured I'd clarify that one tidbit that always irks me, and the terminology used might confuse people.
Last edited by Bovinity; 01-04-2011 at 05:33 PM.
Thanks Bovinity. I hadn't thought of it that way. Assuming 9% crit is a 9% increase Savage Defense uptime, that is pretty significant. I'd still be interested in seeing someone's spec including Pulv though.
Fendi has got nice post, tho i diagree with "no pulverize" part (and im adult so I can express my opinion without the "omgnoob" bit). Pulverize value is in Savage Defense uptime, unless you do heroic raids, threat is not an issue at all in Cata. I personally keep it up mostly on bosses, simply when there is time to do so. Please note the only value of Lacerate is in Berserk proc, bleed was nerfed to ground and its pretty much spammable threat move now, so ignore the bleed and apply one stack after each Pulverize to keep the proc.
As far as i have seen, skull bash talented to 10sec is mandatory and its used all the time.
I have got few advices for the AoE threat too. 1st of all, dont try AoE tanking on your tier level, mobs will tear you apart. Almost all classes have got CC now (I regulary use my own roots on pull, or Hibernate in Grim Batol) so the real art is in positioning and holding threat on 2-3 mobs without breaking CC. Thrash is high aggro move, almost twice as Lacerate application, swipe on same CD. Personally I use glyph of maul as well and have no trouble holding threat as long as targets are marked and dps doesnt pick different mob each. For nasty or even slightly more difficult mob packs burn your Berserk, its 3min cooldown so you can use it on every even pack. Its not just win aggro, but win dps as well, so the mobs go down faster.
Same deal with survival cooldowns, you got 3 + some trinket, use one whenever fighting more mobs to make sure things go smooth
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The numbers shift based on your current Crit percentage, hit/exp, probably even haste...but in my gear for example, the 9% Pulverize crit is something close to 7.5% increase in Savage Defense uptime.Thanks Bovinity. I hadn't thought of it that way. Assuming 9% crit is a 9% increase Savage Defense uptime, that is pretty significant. I'd still be interested in seeing someone's spec including Pulv though.
As for the spec, I believe I'm using: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#0ZfMGb...kMcu:0rqzwZMmz
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I would also like to add one other little nugget of wisdom. I have found Glyph of Rebirth to be very awesome in my recent travels. Yes, even as the tank. Being as how there are only 2 bear glyphs worth having (maul and faerie fire), we have an empty slot anyways. Thorns is almost always off of CD when you do your next pull, so that would be a wasted glyph. You could go with the Frenzied Regen glyph, but if your healer is out of mana, that is pretty useless and, in the current world I play in, many healers are having problems with mana. I picked the Rebirth Glyph thinking it would be used very infrequently, but I have found that, as I start on heroics, that is not the case.
So, when do I find time to Rebirth people as a tank?
Many bosses in Cata have more than one phase and there is a bit of downtime in between them. If someone bites the dust early, it can easily mean a wipe, even if it isn't the healer. Pop out of bear with Rebirth and spam your Bear button to get back as quickly as possible.
This boss has no phase and my healer is chewing gravel on the floor. What now?
Question is, can you make it without your healer? Not "Can you maybe make it?"...Can you really make it? If not, it is worth the chance to Rebirth your healer while the boss is smacking you around. Even in caster form, I have around 20% dodge. And, in most cases, I can take one hit in caster form anyhow. Wait until the boss has just hit you, then Rebirth and spam the bear button. If you are lucky (or fast), you will make it before the next swing. Sometimes, it is even worth doing this on your DPS if the bite it early enough and the DPS will be needed (ie: heroics).


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