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EleganceI love how there are flowers and cloth napkins on the table. And also…an entire bottle of Wild Turkey 101. The perfect meal for a special occasion. Or an awesome first date. Thanks,...
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Given the agonies that a fashion house can go through as it transitions through the years after the departure of its founding designer, the success of Maria Grazia Chiuri and Pier Paolo Piccioli at the house of Valentino is a reason to be cheerful. Everyone hopes that the snafu chez Jil Sander and YSL can be notched up to experience and filed under 'aberration'. And there is proof, somewhere in the daily workings of the 47 year old Roman couture house that there is a way to move a monolitic and much loved label on and somehow the Valentino team have managed to find it.
It is due in no small part to the skill of the two designers to identify the next generation of Valentino customer and woo her with a wonderful wardrobe, short on gimic, long on understated and perfectly feminine luxury.
Where Valentino front rows would have had Farah Diba, Jacqueline De Ribes, Caroline of Monaco and Rosaria of Bulgaria, there is now Natalia Vodionova, Shala Monroque and Alicia Keys. The clothes are less about the limousine lifestyle but every bit as priveleged. It's just that the new Valentino acknowledges that a modern woman likes to get about under her own steam at times, regardless of what her mother might have thought about that. So evening dresses are frequently ballerina length (ie on the ankle) and often worn with flat or mid heeled shoe. And a simple slim trouser over an ankle strap shoe worn with an embroidered jacket will give those grand gowns a run for their money in the evening.
This season the collection was lightly focused (for who wants a themed wardrobe?) on the romantic Russian peasant. And if poverty looked anything like that I'd happily hand over all my worldly goods right now. Instead, I'll be saving up for the fitted collarless coats with braided and embroidered bodices, the full skirted evening dress with scaloped neckline and hem and the A line jackets over ankle cropped skinny pants.
The romance comes into it with a revival of homespun crafts such as needlepoint and tapestry, tatting and lace making, worked by experts that understand not only luxury but also the charm of the hand made.
In addition, Maria Grazia and Pier Paolo take Valentino signatures such as his iconic red, or his undulating frill, or his neat little skirt suits, his love of head to toe white and nudge them on, working them into the latest collections at every turn referencing the house's heritage. But in 2012 the grandest evening wear gets skirts with pockets. The smartest tailoring is stripped of fancy fuss. It's all perfectly Valentino. And it's also perfectly now.
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Gorgeous Evi returns this week in a film that is certain to put you under her hypnotic spell!
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T&S B-7242-08H 50' Open Epoxy Coated Steel Hose Reel with JeTSpray Hi-Flow Spray Valve
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Be still our beating hearts. Not only can we watch Vivienne Westwood's amazing shows and wear her fabulous clothes (especially those gorgeous brown leather boots as featured in this week's Grazia), but now we can actually have genuine Vivienne Westwood on our walls! The eccentric British designer has created a range of wallpaper with Cole & Son epitomising some of her signature patterns and looks.
'It is good when my ideas get carried over into other artistic media,' says Vivienne. 'This collection is a perfect opportunity to be able to work with a heritage company like Cole & Son and to see my ideas from fashion translated into the world of interiors and wallpaper.'
Choose from the iconic squiggle print synonymous with her A/W '81 Pirate collection, the cut-out lace designs from S/S '07, or even the sun-bleached Union Jack imagery. We love the draped tartan pattern with its textured 3D quality that plays tricks on your eyes. Going to sleep has never been so exciting!


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Saturday's news that former Melville Millionaire Andre Parker had passed away quickly made its way through SJHL circles.
On Monday, Parker's parents, Leo and Sharon, announced through the league's website that their son had committed suicide and had been fighting depression.
It's a stark reminder that mental health issues can affect anyone, no matter their age or lot in life, and no matter how well things appear to be going for them.
I never met Parker, but by all accounts he was a fine young man who decided halfway through last season to leave the Millionaires and begin his post-secondary education at the University of Saskatchewan.
The 19-year-old winger and defenceman was known more for his toughness than his scoring prowess, recording 165 penalty minutes and 13 points over a year and a half with his hometown Millionaires.
I truly hope that something good comes out of this tragedy, and that would be people suffering through depression or suicidal thoughts knowing that help is available.
Along with developing hockey players, most, if not all SJHL teams now provide some form of an educational adviser for their players. Ensuring their well-being and providing resources to help with mental health issues must also be a priority.
Athletes are not immune to depression; in fact, they may be more vulnerable to it with the pressures that come along with their sport, particularly in the junior hockey world.
I'm starting to think Estevan Motor Speedway is built over an ancient burial ground.
It's hard to believe that the local race track has already had to postpone more races this year than in the entire flood-filled 2011 season, but it's true.
It's not as if the city has been deluged by constant rain this spring, although the last week has not been pleasant.
The track just has awful timing this year, as it seems to rain on every race day.
On two of the scheduled dates, the track was greeted with a beautiful day, only to see the rain come down in buckets later on.
For the love of all that is good and holy, let's hope that next Friday's races are a go.
The pundits and fans can analyze each group to death before a major international soccer event, but the group stage rarely goes according to plan.
Invariably, some contenders crash out early and some underdogs manage to squeak through, but usually the class of the tournament shines through in the end.
And so it goes at Euro 2012 in Poland and Ukraine.
The group stage wrapped up Tuesday with France, England and Ukraine still alive to earn one of two Group D spots in the quarter-finals.
So far we've seen Greece beat out Russia for the second spot in Group A on a tie-breaker, and the Dutch go winless in a performance that was completely bereft of the creativity shown by the team that went to the final at the 2010 World Cup.
Sure, the Dutch were in the Group of Death alongside Germany, Portugal and Denmark, but they clearly were not on the same level as the Germans and Portuguese.
Even against the underdog Danes, the Oranje showed no finishing ability and went down to defeat.
Group C went largely as expected, although Spain needed a last-minute goal against Croatia to ensure a trip to the quarters, and Italy advanced despite winning only one game.
The quarter-finals begin tomorrow and continue into the weekend, with the Czech Republic facing Portugal and Germany taking on Greece.
Spain will play the second seed in Group D and Italy will play the first seed.
I can't stand Portugal, but the Czechs were lucky to advance and will be over their heads, particularly if captain Tomas Rosicky is unavailable.
Ditto for the Greeks, who pulled off a feel-good story reminiscent of their magical Euro 2004 run, but are severely overmatched against Germany, who have been the most impressive side in the tournament so far.
For those who don't pay any attention to soccer, I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
Josh Lewis can be reached by phone at 634-2654, by e-mail at spo...@estevanmercury.ca, on Twitter at twitter.com/joshlewis306 or on his Bruins Banter blog at estevanmercury.ca/bruinsbanter. Just don't disturb him during the NHL draft this weekend.


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Old Time Radio Downloads > Crime > Epic Casebook
The makers of Epic Pure Sunflower Oil, Purine and Predd Cooking Fat, Yum Yum Peanut Butter, Maple Margarine, and Niblets Cheese Twists present The Epic Casebook in which Inspector Carr investigates. Hugh Rouse plays Inspector Carr in this long-running detective series.
Each week Epic Casebook presents a new and exciting case for the clever Inspector, whether it is a murdered lumberjack, hushed up political secrets, or mysterious myriads of murders. The series later changed its name to Investigator Carr Investigates and ran for over ten years, with a brief stint on television.
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Was the Holy Grail discovered in America?
Has the Holy Grail been in America all along? In 1898, a Minnesota farmer uprooted a large stone covered with mysterious runes that tell a story of land acquisition and murder. Initially thought to be a hoax, new evidence suggests that the find, allegedly dating to 1362, could be real–and a clue that the Knights Templar discovered America 100 years before Columbus. Follow along as experts use erosion studies on the rune stone and match symbols in Templar ruins in Europe to support this theory. 100 minutes.


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WASHINGTON - Life is full of questions, some easy, some hard. And as D.C. United prepares for its biggest game of the season, squaring off against Houston Sunday, one of the toughest questions to be answered is who will comprise the starting lineup?
Under normal circumstances, with a healthy team, this would be a pretty straightforward answer for D.C. United's Head Coach Ben Olsen. With three of United's starting 11 down with injuries, however, a question mark still remains. "We're still patching things up, figuring out what we got to go with. But I think we have had a good week of training," Olsen said. "It's good to get our legs back."
While Brandon McDonald and Marcello Saragosa are nursing injuries, the biggest question of all seems to be whether leading scorer Chris Pontius will play in this weekend's match-up.
"(We're) still evaluating. (Pontius) is definitely injured, and we've got to see where he is at and be very smart. We can't afford to pull anybody out early in this game," Olsen explained.
In last week's first game of the two-leg Eastern Conference Final, Pontius injured his groin taking a free kick early in the first half against Houston, forcing him to take an early exit from the match.
Unfortunately for United, Pontius' early exit was not the worst of it for D.C., as Houston scored three second-half goals to come away with 3-1 win and a two-goal aggregate advantage.
What does this all mean for DC United? They need to win Sunday's game by two goals to force overtime. (A three-goal lead wins the series for D.C.). If they fail, D.C.'s stellar season is over.
D.C. fans can take heart in some encouraging news though. United might get some reinforcements Sunday in the form of Dwayne De Rosario, who is close to coming back from the injured list.
"He's healthy and ready to go. It does seem like a game you might want to use a guy like Dwayne DeRosario. He still knocks on my door every morning and tells me he's ready," Olsen says.
For now, for starting lineup, it's all about physical fitness.
"I think we would be very pleased if we went into overtime. You have to have the majority of your guys ready to go for that duration. If you make too many subs early, it can affect what you need to do down the stretch," Olsen strategizes.
Despite the uneasiness surrounding the starting lineup and healing injuries, Dwayne De Rosario said this week in training, his teammates have been positive and preaching patience.
"We have to get one (goal) first. Once you get one, playing at home, everything will follow with the momentum," he said.
Aside from that initial goal-scoring target, defense is critical for United. In fact, the first goal scored in Sunday's game could mean life for D.C. or a series-clincher for Houston. So what makes United believe a comeback is possible? Assistant Coach Chad Ashton said it best, "(The team), I mean all you have to do is watch them You see the fight, you see the character. This team has a never say die attitude."
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Last month, the Annenberg Space for Photography was the recent recipient of a great honor. We were awarded the 2011 Julius Shulman Communication Award, which honors an outstanding contributor and exponent of communication in his or her field. The award is handed out each year by the Julius Shulman Institute at Woodbury University. Gil Garcetti, Diane Keaton and the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels have all been past winners.
Thanks to all of you, our visitors, who have helped make the Photography Space such a great success. We wouldn't be where we are without you!
Above is classic shot of the Space taken the year we opened. The photographer? Julius Shulman himself!


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a slang word derived from prison meaning the world outside of a jail or prison.
I'll be released in a few, I'm so happy, I can't wait to be in the bricks
by ThE K@niLeKinG January 27, 2011
a pound or kilogram of any drug (item requires clarification from speaker as to the amount intended)
I get my dope straight off a brick. (implying said substance is pure, clean, and untampered with)
by The Butcher of Raleigh June 19, 2003
As verb: to brick something. This is the action of rendering any small-medium size electronic device useless. This can happen whilst changing the firmware, soldering or any other process involving either hardware of software.
I bricked my mobile phone when I tried to install Linux on it.
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Very cold. Like when somehting is cold and frozen itsz as hard as a brick.
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whatever gives the highest number is better (for physical damage since armor is useless against magic)
I've recently purchased the Glyph of Indomitability from my emblems, but now I'm wondering if this was such a good decision. I still have the time to turn it back so I need persuasion for me to keep it or return it again. I've so far already bought the libram, ring, and shoulders from my triumph emblems and this seemed like a good alternative for my next buy. Before I got this, I used the Royal Seal of King Llane and the Figurine - Monarch Crab, as my 2 trinkets. I now replaced my crab with the glyph.
I'll place a link to my armory if that might provide any help whatsoever:
My crab had a 30 stamina and a 10 def/15 stamina gem it. My guild is pretty much downing Ignis on 25 man every week, so there is a possibility for the Heart of Iron to drop and if it drops I will probably also win it.
Why should I return/keep my new trinket?
Thanks in advance,
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whatever gives the highest number is better (for physical damage since armor is useless against magic)
I think the armor trinket is only worth it after you have used badges on everything else. Only fight I can think of using the glyph over an hp trinket is algalon. Having a high hp pool is top priority for paladin tanks. The more overall health you have, the bigger your AD buffer is.
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Would this trinket do well for a DK?
It would do very, very well for any tank on fights where practically all the danger of tank deaths is due to pure physical damage. Again, I can only think of 1 fight where that is the case atm and that's algalon. If you are tanking anub'arak himself on heroic mode tho, it might be worthwhile if you do not want to stack stam due to the leech.
edit: forgot vezax but he's easy enough anyway, lol.
Once you're really well geared and have very high hp regardless of your trinkets, it might be fun to use this thing full time. I know once I'm able to reach about 40-41k with only 1 stam trink (and I have my t9 pieces), I'll be usin it most of the time.
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Hm, what about Gormok? 1550 health vs. 1800 armour. Would his bleed make the health outweight the armour?
Well, I'm curious... and it looks like, for me, the 1500 health would add up to about 62k EH, while the armour choice would add up to 60k EH. That's kinda lame. I really thought the armour would add more than that.
I am agonizing whether to buy this. I've read that it is better overall for survival than a stam trinket in purely physical fights and while I accept that I'm trying to think of situations where the armor would save me as oppose to the extra health. Looking at the encounters out there:
XT and XT hardmode: Slow and predictable attacks, no huge burst for healers to deal with. Tantrum hits the same regardless.
Kologarn: Trivial fight.
Iron Council/Steelbreaker: Better to stack stamina because of fusion punch.
Auriaya: Trivial fight.
Hodir/hard mode Hodir: Better to stack stamina because of frozen blows. Cooldowns may help with frozen blows depending on how your guild does the fight.
Thorim: Armor will help here but cooldowns are still needed to survive later Unbalancing Strikes.
Freya/hard: Trivial tank healing for good healers.
Mimiron: Tons of magic damage so stacking stamina here.
Vezax/hard: Armor more useful, although normal mode is pretty trivial. I can't see armor stacking helping your healers that much for the hard mode. Stamina helps you survive the animus debuff longer.
Yogg: Trivial tank healing, some magic damage thrown around. Can't comment on hard mode.
Gormok/hard: Armor helps with Impale and melee but not with the bleed. For hard mode you need cooldowns to help survive later Impales so regardless whether you stack armor or health it doesn't really matter. On hard mode the bleed is considerably more damage and is not helped at all with armor.
Worms: A large part of their burst damage is from the frontal spew and stamina stacking is the only way to help with this.
Icehowl/heroic: Armor likely better, though it seems he can still insta-gib some tanks regardless of whether you stack stam or armor with the current gear on heroic mode 25.
Jaraxxus/heroic: Good portion of the damage is magic so stamina is better.
Faction champs: Gimmick fight, though lots of magic damage going around so stamina is better.
Valkyries: Trivial tank damage, lots of unavoidable magic damage so stamina wins.
Anub'arak: Possibly better to stack armor over stamina because he melees hard, though the freezing slash would be unaffected. On adds I would think unless you're rocking an unhittable set for heroic 25, you would want more stamina.
Wing buffet and Fire breath are unaffected by armor so stamina obviously wins on this fight. Guards also do considerable magic damage and the whelps are all owned by block.
Am I missing something here? Is this trinket worth it? Perhaps some tanks who are more experienced or verses in the harder content can tell me whether this is worth picking up. Keep in mind I don't see myself doing heroic Anub 25 any time soon.
At 50,000 hp, 30Kish armor buffed with neither trinket, it looks like glyph is slightly better for EH for physical damage than a brewmaiden trinket. This advantage increases as armor and hp increase.
I plan on switching to this trinket as soon as I can, but upgrading other pieces from 226 to 245 give much better EH boosts as they tend to increase all stats (armor, stam, avoidance) instead of trading one for another.
PS. Enraged Dreadscale is mostly extremely heavy melee based damage (32-40K per hit!) with some heavy magic based bursts in between. If you are saving your big cooldowns for magic based bursts (like I do), then your deaths will come from the melee damage. Armor would help in this situation since your mitigation during the magic bursts is so high.
It's strictly a patchwerk/brutallus/algalon/?? trinket. I'm sure it'll come in handy on something in icecrown.


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The Divergence Theorem
I've been really busy with other projects — and work — of late, but I think we can get started again. We left off right after defining hypersurface integrals, which puts us in position to prove the divergence theorem.
So, let be a hypersurface with dimension in an -manifold , and let be a vector field on some region containing , so we can define the hypersurface integral
And if corresponds to a -form , we can write this as
where is the oriented volume form of and is a -form that "points perpendicular to" in . We take the given inner product and integrate it as a function against the volume form of itself.
A little juggling lets us rewrite:
where we take our -form and flip it around to the "perpendicular" form . Integrating this over involves projecting against , which is basically what the above formula connotes.
Now, let's say that the surface is the boundary of some -dimensional submanifold of , and that it's outward-oriented. That is, we can write . Then our hypersurface integral looks like
Next we'll jump over to the other end and take the divergence and integrate it over the region . In terms of the -form , this looks like
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which tells us in our vector field notation that
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Steve McClaren scores another own goal with Foot in Mouth award (11 December 2007)
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Unemployed Steve McClaren has received another blow while he counts his two million pound payoff. The ex-England boss has won the Plain English Campaign's Foot in Mouth Award for this piece of footballing wisdom:
'He (Wayne Rooney) is inexperienced, but he's experienced in terms of what he's been through.'
He wins the award despite strong entries from George Bush and Jeremy Kyle.
Last year Naomi Campbell joined previous winners Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Gere and Tracey Emin as the public figure who had made the most baffling comment.
Seven Golden Bulls have been awarded this year, including one to Richard Branson's Virgin Trains for a response from the company about problems booking online. UKTV have won one for an extremely enthusiastic press release about their new channel, 'Dave'. In a year where silly signs seem to have dominated the news, BAA at Gatwick Airport have won a Golden Bull for a fine example.
Top comedian and TV personality Lenny Henry will present the awards at the Brewery, Chiswell Street, London EC1Y 4SD on 11 December 2007. It will be the 28th annual Plain English awards ceremony.
Winners of Plain English Awards include Liverpool Housing Trust for their 'Pictorial Tenancy Agreement' and Alistair Macintosh, Huart Tai Huang and Geoffrey Holden FRICS for their 'Guide to surveyors' jargon.' Stockport Women's Aid will also pick up a Plain English Award for an advice booklet.
The National School of Government and the Forestry Commission are amongst the winners for the Inside Write Awards. These are given to government departments for clear internal communication.
Media winners include the first International Media award winner, Bruce Hill from the Australian Broadcasting Company, and BBC Five Live's Midday News which scooped 'Best National Radio programme'. Teletext has won the Osborne Award for their contribution to plain English.
Campaign celebrates best ever awards ceremony (20 December 2007)
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Plain English Campaign supporters spent the weekend celebrating the success of their 'best ever' awards ceremony.
Around 400 guests attended the event. They were treated to a brilliant presentation from top comedian and TV personality Lenny Henry and the campaign's John Wild.
Award winners from leading national and international media organisations rubbed shoulders with government officials and company representatives.
Highlights from the ceremony included an acceptance speech from top BBC Radio Devon presenter Judi Spiers. Judi delivered her speech in broad 'Devonian' to huge applause. But the biggest cheer of the ceremony was reserved for International Media Award winner Bruce Hill, of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. Flying in from Australia to receive his award in person, he ripped into jargon peddlers and gobbledygook gabblers without mercy. But he did so with typical Australian good humour.
The story of the Golden Bull winners and the award of the 'Foot in Mouth Award' to Steve McClaren went worldwide. Newspapers and radio stations in New York, China, Canada, South Africa and Australia took up the story along with the biggest names in the UK media reaching a possible maximum radio and TV audience of around 26 million.
Campaign supporters reported a record number of 'hits' on the www.plainenglish.co.uk – nearly 200, 000 in one twenty – four hour period.
According to press officer Steve Jenner, this is only part of the story, though. 'The Steve McClaren story may have grabbed the headlines. But importantly, it gave us an opportunity to highlight the good work of the Inside Write and Plain English Award winners. These are often government departments, companies and not – for – profit organisations who are rightly criticised when things go wrong. Unfortunately, they are rarely praised for the good things they do. It is a positive aspect of our work that we were able to praise the work of these organisations before millions of people.'
Plain English Campaign Award winners 2007
'Plain English' category (for the year's clearest documents)
- Liverpool Housing Trust for their 'Pictorial Tenancy Agreement'
- Stockport Women's Aid for their 'Advice booklet'
- CO-Awareness for their 'Carbon Monoxide Poisoning' leaflet
- The Prostate Cancer Charity for two information booklets
- Alistair McIntosh for 'A guide to surveyors' jargon'
- Chancery Group for the 'Cephalon employee benefits' booklet
Inside Write category (for clear internal government documents)
- Defence, Science and Technology Laboratory (MOD) for the 'Distil' newspaper
- Department for Children, Schools and Families for 'feedback' magazine
- National School of Government for their 'Joining the Civil Service' handbook
- Forestry Commission for the 'Operational Guidance Booklets'
- DVLA for 'Licence' magazine
- Driving Standards Agency for the 'Make a difference conferences 2007' booklet
Campaign calls for withdrawal of Heathrow consultation document (11 February 2008)
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The founding director of Plain English Campaign, Chrissie Maher, has slammed the government over the Heathrow expansion consultation document. Speaking at the campaign's headquarters in Derbyshire earlier this week, she described the document as 'atrocious'.
Susan Kramer, MP for Richmond Park sent a copy of the document to the campaign. "This document effectively takes away human rights," said Chrissie. "No ordinary person with an interest in the plans to expand Heathrow could be expected to read and understand this."
Chrissie found several faults in the document, including the following:
- Excessive jargon in the summary, such as 'periodic emissions cost assessment' and 'external climate change costs.'
- Huge assumptions about the reader's knowledge of government policy.
- Jargon specific to particular professions, such as 'net present value terms' and 'mixed mode operations'.
- An unclear introduction in Section A of the document.
- Section B makes use of terms which are not familiar to most people.
- Section D uses technical terminology such as 'operation of runway rotation'.
"How can this be a true consultation if most readers cannot understand the document? We've seen this time and time again - local councils and government departments are always launching 'consultations'. But they are not real consultations because they design them in such a way that most people are unable to take part."
"After all these years of our campaigning, the Government should realise they can't treat people with the contempt shown in the past. Unfortunately, once again we see more proof that this is not always the case. We are not 'taking sides' in the debate, but it is so important that in a democracy, consultations are genuine. People must have a fair chance to understand the documents put before them. Otherwise they cannot tell you what they really think.
"I am calling on the Department of Transport to withdraw and redraft this document."
Brown accused of 'patronising response' (12 February 2008)
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Plain English Campaign supporters were 'angered and dismayed' by an answer at Prime Minister's Questions yesterday. Susan Kramer, MP for Richmond Park, asked Gordon Brown to withdraw the Heathrow expansion consultation document. Her call came as a result of it being declared 'atrocious' by Chrissie Maher, the founder of Plain English Campaign.
The Prime Minister responded, saying that "the consultation is there for the public to involve themselves in" and "I hope people will vigorously join the consultation".
"This is a totally patronising response," said Campaign spokesman Steve Jenner. "The Prime Minister just seemed to ignore the issue raised. The consultation document may be 'there for the public to involve themselves in' but that just isn't good enough. Any old rubbish can be 'there'. And that's what this document is. Anyone who thinks this is a suitable document for public consultation is holding the public in contempt."
"How can 'people vigorously join the consultation' when the document looks as if it has been designed to exclude people from participating?"
"It should be possible to read, understand and act on a consultation document after one reading. I would challenge anyone to do that with this particular document. Irrespective of the rights or wrongs of the Heathrow expansion plans, consultation carried out in this way is just undemocratic."
"Once again we would urge a re – think; this document is not fit for the purpose for which it was intended. We ask the government to withdraw this document and offer a genuine consultation to interested parties."
National Excess: coach company races railways for jargon award (28 February 2008)
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Leading language pressure group Plain English Campaign has accused a coach company boss of 'driving people mad' with gobbledygook.
Campaign spokesman Steve Jenner explains: "Has National Express boss Richard Bowker learned nothing from the Golden Bull Award presented to Virgin Trains last month? He accuses Network Rail of a 'loss of focus', and then goes on to say that 'National Express is far more than a coach company, it is a travel solutions business.'"
"No it isn't. A travel solutions business is someone with a mobile soup kitchen. What exactly does a travel solution contain? How do you solve travel? It sounds like a plot line for an episode of Dr. Who!"
"It is a travel company. You buy a ticket, and get a ride on a bus, train or whatever. This is yet another example of 'management speak' and business jargon, and it is driving people mad. Everywhere you look there are companies offering 'solutions'."
The campaign is already accepting examples of jargon and gobbledygook for the annual awards ceremony in London next December.


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Stunning Gallery A very sensuous girl, and a delightfully gorgeous vulva.
|Fernando Espagne
Trio Muy buena esta galería, por los primeros planos del busto de las modelos. Buena labor, Peter. Gracias.
|wheeler Etats Uni
hot stuff!!!! do you have any close-ups of that tattoo???LOL
|MAGOO4 Etats Uni
Petter, Well done, hope to see more of Lysa. A very beautiful woman. Thanks. magoo4
|Dave Etats Uni
Well Lysa could be one of my favorites. She has a great body and wonderful face but all of her galleries are kind of "Here she is this is what she looks like and a bunch of pictures of her." I'd really like to see a bedroom series with her as these are kind of boring despite her beauty.
|alex Royame Uni
lysa lysa is one hell of a sexy woman,delicious.
|blake Royame Uni
tres bon Lysa is an upgrade on the mona lisa.
|I agree with WELL, But Etats Uni
She is so awesome. Show me a video of her on an elliptical.
|Laurie Royame Uni
Alluring Sea Nymph As I glide between your legs I blow a shower of sparkling bubbles, hissing and tingling your skin. Clutch ontight to my underside and sensually embrace my phallus as we skim the surface in erotic spumescence.
|wheeler Etats Uni
oh yes!!! more wet and messy stuff!!!THREE girls together ain't bad either!!!hehehe
|Pete Royame Uni
Ruslana wins it I'd definatley like to make this a foursome, 3 really great looking models wiht Ruslana topping it for me. This set also continues Petter's fascination with sand
|wheeler Etats Uni
oh yeah!!! Gotta love those booty shorts!!!
|alex Royame Uni
lysa very hot,very sexy.
|blake Royame Uni
with or without Lysa looks awesome with or without clothes, I really like some of the early shots as I can get away with them on my screensaver.
|Voyeur Etats Uni
Lysa your way too good looking to not smile more.
|Laurie Royame Uni
Green eyed Girl I really have fallen head over heels in love with this delightful little beauty.
|Oscar Israël
Oh my Goodnessss!!! This girl is heaven on earth WOW!!!!
|Laurie Royame Uni
Hmmmm I,ll refrain from comment other than to say. You are so beautiful, gorgeous green eyed creature.
|alex Royame Uni
lysa lysa is a very sexy woman.
|Jim Etats Uni
Lysa Pretty nice. She's not among my favorites, but I enjoyed this gallery.
|pierangelo Italie
Isa life is a beach The thing most important of the images. the pussy, is framed always dark and hidden and in shade, for which it is not therefore possible to enjoy of its particular beauty
|pierangelo Italie
Again up Lisa The greatest part of the images they are taken back too much away from the pussy, they miss some closeups, and the pussy cannot be seen well.A pussy is not equal to another
|joe Etats Uni
Candid Style Love these Voyeuristic style beach shoots. Many more please
|jack Irelande
just love the way she shows herself; pussy perfect
|lysa fan Singapour
the pussy lips r so fresh!!!! wonderful !! cheers!
|Laurie Royame Uni
Sensuous Seafood I love a tasty mollusc, just playfully roll it around your mouth teasing the taste buds with its unique flavours.
|daniel eaves Etats Uni
Sweet as cherry pie! Krista, Lysa and Ruslana being together look sweet as cherry pie!
|alex Royame Uni
trio great set of pics.
|mchuelio Australie
All 3 are very Yummy! Hard to split them, but I would try!
|chris Etats Uni
trio I found choosing one from these three impossible. All quite enchanting.
|terminus_h Slovénie
beautiful girls, but Ruslana's beauty radiates strongest
|Mike Canada
Krysta, Lysa, Ruslana The cream of the crop. Three of your best models. Absolutely fantastic.
|Mark Etats Uni
Trio This is pure art! Absolutely beautiful! Each lady is wonderful and beautiful in their own special way. Each brings something unique to the table for this set. One tall, lithe and statuesque, one girl next door looking with a piercing and a curvy black haired beauty. It all adds up to great nudes.
|ST Royame Uni
Lysa Luscious, curvy body and the most captivating eyes.
|blake Royame Uni
curvy Refreshing set, bright eyes, thanks Petter.
|alex Royame Uni
lysa outstanding
|daniel eaves Etats Uni
Lysa has a nice belly to kiss! Lysa has a nice belly to kiss and lick!
|Laurie Royame Uni
Exquisite green Eyes I have to thank the St.Patricks day gallery for alerting me to this stunningly beautiful girl.
|Ralph Royame Uni
Lysa Lysa has a gorgeous curvy figure and surely the sexiest eyes on the site?
|hm Royame Uni
Wow... what a body! Lysa is so sexy, I suspect without even trying.
|Laurie Royame Uni
Emerald Beauty Love your erogenous charms.
|alex Royame Uni
lysa hot,very very hot.
|Larry T Japon
This really is a sexy model with a very big visual presence - we feel a strong character through her eyes and her look. This along with her nice body are the recipees for a new top model !
|J-Dog Etats Uni
sensational. i love it. instant star this one. and one of the most unique faces ive seen. something about it. i dunno, the eyes? whatever it is, i like it!
|Luclaf Canada
Lysa pic set Again... just like the previous pic set, lack of experience limit the variety of her poses. But at least, her green eyes are very beautiful.
|ken Casey Etats Uni
Pretty face, nice breasts but not enough showing to call her hot, nevermind very hot.
|Laurie Royame Uni
Green Goddess Stunning green eyed honeypot.
|Luclaf Canada
KLR pic set Buuts don't light me up. I need more than than. But, at least good pic quality.
|tdonna1 Etats Uni
Lysa Great Model - Excellent Find!!!
|Jim Etats Uni
Lysa A new hottie. Life is good.
|alex Royame Uni
lysa a very sexy new woman.
|Michael Canada
Lysa seems to have some potential in these pictures. However-too much sand-makes me feel gritty. Looking forward to the next sets.
|Luclaf Canada
Lysa Sorry, but I really hate these pic with a lot of sand on the model, because this prevent me to appreciate her beauty to her real value.
|J-Dog Etats Uni
yeah, i agree with Luclaf and Michael; not the best way to introduce a new model. many of us have been eagerly awaiting Lysa, we were hoping to see ALL of her, not all of her covered in grit.
|Gaytor Allemagne
Ein klein wenig zuviel Sand am Körper aber eine sehr schöne Frau mit tollen Füßen.
|Laurie Royame Uni
Page 2 - 1st image Just so simply fucking gorgeous.
|Laurie Royame Uni
Sand Sea and Sun I like the sand and the taste of the sea on her skin and the earthy musky aroma of her perineum. Paradise!
|mandingo Etats Uni
threesome very fine form old jonny has been given a jolly good workout looking at these fine specieman...........mmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!love them so infact i am addicted to their form, delicious and sensual.
|alex Royame Uni
lysa very very sexy
|nico Allemagne
I´love you Lysa... ;)
|Chris Allemagne
This woman is fantastic!
|Laurie Royame Uni
Lusty Lysa Great setting, nice film especially the light playing on her luscious body. I imagine she would be a very sensuous fuck.
|Laurie Royame Uni
Divine Five minutes of perfect bliss.
|Xiaojin Etats Uni
Lysa has a great figure, very seductive.
|cedoncmoi France
fun in the sun nice but not sensual at all
|terminus_h Slovénie
ruslana is superior in this one as can be expected, however, if she were in a company of Paulina, Linda L, Anna S, and Angelica, she would need to try much harder
|MAGOO4 Etats Uni
FUN IN THE SUN Petter, Thank you for that beautiful art work. Magoo4
|thumper Australie
island madness wouldnt you love to trapped on a island with these godesses?
|Phil Royame Uni
Working together This all reminded me of a piece of choreography. It is like they are all working together in something like a kind of dance if you know what I mean.
|Marie Etats Uni
Relaxed This is a very relaxed and relaxing movie. I got all floaty watching it and wishing it was me.
|Ryann Irelande
Want more It is a pretty setting sure enough but where are the pussy shots? There are one or two but I want more than that.
|Will Etats Uni
RE: Want more You must have heard the phrase about variety being the spice of life. There is no shortage of pussy everywhere else. This movie is here to take a different angle and just gaze at the female form.
|Old School Etats Uni
Couldn't we have one girl unshaven to appeal to both preferences?
|Danizza Suisse
Wow! The "striking" Russians from 2008 in Thailand.
|windmill Pays Bas
RE: Working together A slow dance at sunset giving us great images of moving shadows over so beautiful round curves and soft skin to the touch. Wet skin glistening in dimming light is adding such a wonderful melody to this slow dance. Surely lots more to dance to see.


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Add hunters who refuse to turn growl off in HCs, or glyph stampede.
Harsh Words and Steel: A Protection Warrior Guide
MoP RPS Calculator
Hunters, Just get a Sporebat, most LFRs will be missing that buff.
Last edited by jere; 03-16-2013 at 05:08 PM.
as Melee, especially a sub rogue i like the boss not spinning, especially the second boss in SPM its annoying to be behind him, in the middle of a shadow dance and then dead becuase the hunter decided to pop stampede just as the boss uses Fists of fury,the second boss of Gate of the setting sun, or Harlan in scarlet halls, are both similar; taking their frontal cones to the face isn't something i like doing even if it is a DPS increase, over the what 5% dps loss becuase i'm now being parried. Likewise losing uptime on the boss becuase the tank can't move it out the fire/voidzone is also annoying, sure i could stand in it and live, but i'm kinda of the habit of avoiding fire.
And this is assuming the hunter in question has actually stabled a decent selection of pets, which more often than not, they don't. Hell most of the ones i've found in LFG won't even change pets to get out one that beings a buff the group and are perfectly fine using a tenacity specced pet the entire run. of course if you really never want to not stampede, take Growl off auto cast off all your pets and stampede doesn't taunt. ever. Takes about 20 seconds to do all the pets currently on you.
This is what really annoys me; its a really simple fix, but people are just too lazy to do it.
EDIT: and if that's too much to manage after a hard days questing.
#showtooltip Dismiss pet
/petautocastoff Growl
/cast Dismiss Pet
Last edited by Tengenstein; 03-16-2013 at 05:57 PM.
Harsh Words and Steel: A Protection Warrior Guide
MoP RPS Calculator
Hunters, Just get a Sporebat, most LFRs will be missing that buff.
Oh definitely, that's why it's always important to ask (or take growl off your pets). I was just shedding light on why the glyph was not typically a solution most hunters go for. It's not worth the tradeoff for a random heroic. The easier/politer solution is just not to use it if it is going to cause heartache or battle issues. Most hunters use it in heroics out of either apathy or ignorance (some people just don't think about things like what the boss spinning around impacts) just to get big DPS numbers. In those situations, they'll mostly likely not care/not know they are lowering sub rogue/feral druid/etc. dps and putting the group in danger cause the tank can't move the boss.
Last edited by jere; 03-17-2013 at 06:33 AM.
I have played LoL I played with some friends from my horde server so it wasn't so bad. I have heard the tales of abuse though. I quit wow because i was a bit burnt out, I stupidly helped one of my old raiding buddies from alliance to level his guild, recruit new members and form a raid team. Probably this was too much to do seeing as the guild was level one. I was finding the standing around trying to get tanks in trade chat pretty horrible on a Saturday and Sunday night especially seeing as the GM and his cousin wanted main tank and off tank positions and then rarely turned up for our four days a week raiding schedule. After a couple of weeks to cool down I do think I was helping too much.My DPS may have been a bit on the low side but usually I was top DPS or at least in the top 3, not too bad for an older player. I think the 16 year olds in my guild who decided it was a fun pass time to sledge the old lady about her DPS were the straw that broke the old lady's back. I think I've reached the point that I should stop playing anyway. When I wrote the original post I was feeling a bit sad about all of the above and a tad angry. The boys will do very well without me I am sure. Maybe one day I will go back to do some relaxing questing and five man content and LFR but for now I'm taking an extended holiday after playing every day for 7 years. I did love hunting and the wonderful world of warcraft and the unusual community. I still see and talk to the players on Facebook and catch up for coffee, play other games with a few including weird things like draw something and words with friends...go figure. I do enjoy hearing about how careers are blossoming, how gf's have become wives, how dabbling is music ends up being a serious recording.Sorry about my earlier burnt out WoW mum post.
i agree that there are bad players, there are lazy players, there are people who quit when progression gets harder, and that there are LOTS of people who think they're doing fine even though they're not.
i also agree there are plenty of players who get mad when not taken to raids. but it's been my experience that these players are usually immature, basically selfish, and mostly think they're amazing players. i'm in total agreement with you guys about dealing with this type, and i've run into plenty of them. my solution is just not interacting with them at all.
what i don't agree with is that there's lots of players in the game who are performing really poorly, know they're performing really poorly, refusing to try and get better, happy about performing really poorly, still demanding to be taken to raids, and demanding to be carried. i've just not run into this.
the difference is important. i'm talking about players who aren't as skilled, but are pleasant; you guys are talking about players who aren't as skilled and are also unpleasant.
let's consider 4 categories of player:
- skilled at pushing buttons + pleasant
- not skilled at pushing buttons + pleasant
- skilled at pushing buttons + dickhead
- not skilled at pushing buttons + dickhead
the first type i'd invite to guild and raid team
the second type i'd invite to guild, but as social or casual raid team
the third type i would not invite to guild, but might be able to tolerate for a short time in a pug/etc
the fourth type goes on /ignore
As we started to get back into progression it became very clear that he was getting carried. Whenever we would talk to him about it, his response was: His class had been nerfed a bit and that Resto Druids (the healer molly-whopping him on the meters every fight) were just overpowered, so there was no reason for him to try to get better. Nothing we said could convince him that he was capable of doing better, and therefor he was quite content with the way things were. And so we pushed on like that.
We managed to get H-Boat down around the time of the 30% nerf. As we started poking at Spine it became very clear that it wasn't going to happen with him healing. If I recall correctly we were getting the second plate off and then just dying from raid damage caused by bloods dieing. Every single attempt, the H-Pally was beat by at least 20k hps and the Druid was OOM when we died.
So, as 5.0 approached and people started to return to playing WoW we started making plans to hit the ground running in MoP. When it came time to explain to the H-Pally taht we were going to be replacing him, he was shocked, he thought we were just trolling. I had to sit there and explain our reasons, even post meters, and tell him that we asked him multiple times to try to improve. He just did not understand why we wouldn't want him to raid with us. As far as he was concerned, we were all friends and that made it perfectly ok for him to be lagging behind.
Now, after that incident despite my best efforts I have lost a lot of patience for people who when offered, or even seek, advice on how to better themselves in game, fail to put any amount of effort into it. I'm not saying I expect immediate performance improvement, but for those who know how to look at finer details, you can see evidence of effort at least. For me it has just become a black and white comparison. Is this person going to show any respect for the time of those around him, or is he just looking to get free loot.
Yes, there are very nice people who haven't sought to better their game-play in any way. It's just a game after all, why would they need too. For those people Blizzard made LFR. Inviting them to a progression oriented raid though is just uncalled for. I can't imagine it's fun for them to wipe and show no sign of progression, and it's definitely not fun for the people around them who are actually trying.
So, in summary, yes, there are people who fail to view anything they do with in-adequacy. It's actually a lot more common among human beings than you would think. Does this make them bad people? No, just human. I don't really have a follow up point to that, it's just an observation.
fair enough, but did he fit the complete description? shocked is one thing, but when you told him he's was being replaced, did he demand to be taken to the raid and demand that you guys continue to carry him?
i raided with someone who fit your description almost exactly, except he was dps and we were failing at downing the tendons in two goes. i had to talk to him and tell him i was going to have to find someone else if he couldn't improve. in the end, he did improve just enough so we could get past it. however, in my case the guy never demanded to be carried along; he realized he was a bit low and tried to get better, but he just couldn't. in the end, when 5.0 hit i replaced him in order to improve the overall group, and he eventually left the guild to find a new home. but since it wasn't on bad terms, he doesn't fit the "demanding" part.
i shouldn't say my hypothetical player doesn't exist at all, because speaking in absolutes is rarely accurate. maybe you did play with someone who was under-skilled, not interested in getting better, and a total dick about demanding to be taken to raids. if so, have you had many like that in your raid, or just this one?
i guess what i'm objecting to is what i see as a characterization of the vast majority of under-skilled players as all being these lazy jerks who feel entitled to raid spots. i believe most of them are probably striving to improve like all of us do, but aren't able to (at least not as quickly).
absolutely, and i've agreed with this point since the beginning; raids groups work best when everyone is of similar skill level.Inviting them to a progression oriented raid though is just uncalled for. I can't imagine it's fun for them to wipe and show no sign of progression, and it's definitely not fun for the people around them who are actually trying.
Not just similar skill, but similar raiding philosophy as well.
This is really kind of devolving into anecdotal and semantic arguments.
Point is there's lots of different kinds of players, and pretty much everyone that's posted in this thread and hangs out on this forum will try to give people the best advice they can when asked, have spent time helping people (even complete strangers), and are really here at tankspot because we like doing that.
However, we all have our battle scars and our patience does have its limits. We've been tired of being told we're bad when we're giving good advice and being told to eff off by people, we're tired of explaining how something is done and getting the response "that's too hardcore for me, I'm just a casual", etc. etc. Some people can't be helped, some people don't want to be helped, whatever the reason "bad" players do exist and not taking them to raids, or not going out of your way to help them, to me, are perfectly acceptable courses of action.
Unacceptable courses of action: messaging them and telling them they're bad, berating them, etc. Those are the kind of things that really do damage a community. None of us are advocating that.
But looking up someone's armory and seeing it look like rainbow bright gemmed their gear and they have missing enchants and just clearly don't know how their class works... I think it's perfectly acceptable to politely turn them down for the PuG raid you're trying to complete.
"If the world is something you accept rather than interpret, then you're susceptible to the influence of charismatic idiots." -Neil deGrasee Tyson
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Well, first of all, ditto to what Agg said. I don't think there's ever been a Thread in the HALP forum that went more than a day un-answered, if not by multiple people. I came to this website early in Cata, one of those "bad" players who had almost no idea what the hell they were doing. Since then I've done my best to give pointers to those who seek them and even those who don't on occasion. The latter of the two have had about a 50/50 chance of biting me in the ass thus far. But those are odds I'm willing to take, because /ignore is easy, but finding somebody who appreciates you taking time to help them makes it worth it a lot of the time.
To answer you question Maklar, essentially, yes. Granted as I said he was actually a pretty nice guy, so he wouldn't go as far to make a demand..... (Who demands things over the internet anyway? I think that's a good way to get asked: Bro, do you even lift?) But it was clear that from his point of view he was more than entitled to continue raiding with us. I spent at least 15 minutes trying to explain to him that 1) I was being serious, and 2) Yes, despite us getting along well on a personal level it wasn't going to cut it for progression raiding. It wasn't exactly an easy talk, It was like telling a 6 year old Christmas was canceled. I think at the end of it he felt betrayed and that we were being unfair.
I was going to make that a short reply because this thread has been running itself in circles, but alas, I rambled.
Last edited by Gregasaurous; 03-21-2013 at 07:30 AM.
On topic though, it seems that Gregasauros hit on one of the most troublesome types of players imo, the person who is very friendly, but in return also expects that being friends also means that any sort of requirement towards their performance is gone. I've encountered several of these people during my travels through different guilds through the ages, and it seems that those people work in 25 man (non hardcore ofc) but simply won't cut it in any but the most casual of 10 man.
This actually spurred me to leave a guild at one point, their main characters were decently gemmed and enchanted. But I liked creating alt runs, and ofc invited everyone from the guild to join in, even though we would probably have to PuG some people. Some of my guildies then showed up in full unenchanted and ungemmed pvp gear (This being in Cata where resi counted towards stat budgeting) and just assumed that would completely ok, because we were friends.
So I'd actually like to ask a question, would that be ok with you guys, if a person showed up to an alt run in completely unenchanted and ungemmed gear?
I have a story about the whole, 2 raid teams in one guild.
It was a sort of backwards situation in our guild, the B-team overtook the A-team in progress, which caused a lot of drama in the guild, especially as the B-team only raided 1 day/week where the A-team raided 2-3 days/week. When the B-team surpassed the A-team the A-team basically fell apart because of the frustration this had caused, it ended up with the B-team (which I was leading) seeing no other way out than leaving the guild and creating our own guild.
Sure, I cringe sometimes when I see people doing badly in LFR, but, if they're participating, that's fine with me. Intentional AFK is not OK. Especially if you're in normal or heroic gear. I *really* hate that. Since you only need 40%, and I'm usually in there with ~10 guildies who I figure I can count on to be at 80%, if not higher, then just the 10 of us can make up for 10 'participants' easily, and probably more.
Normal or heroic raiding is a completely different animal. Then you can get out your meters and performance metrics and start kicking with my blessing.
Edit: To clarify, we end up in LFR with 10 or more guildies as a social event, more than anything. We might have 15 guildies in the group, but 10 of them that I know can do 80%+. The other five probably can't make the normal raid team, but, fun people to do LFR with. Also, with 10-15 people in a group of 25, if you're a douchebag or AFKer, you're gone. There's enough of us to make it stick. Does tend to make LFR a more pleasant experience.
Last edited by mavfin; 03-25-2013 at 02:05 PM.
If they want to raid on their alt, they should take it seriously.So I'd actually like to ask a question, would that be ok with you guys, if a person showed up to an alt run in completely unenchanted and ungemmed gear?
(Personally, I won't go into LFR unenchanted/ungemmed, but that's just me. I don't expect others in that place to be that way.)
recently, we're seeing more and more ways that people strike back at trolls and try to peel back that anonymity layer; did you see the story about the boxer who tracked down a nasty twitter troll and then tweeted a picture of the street sign where the guy lived with the message "anyone gonna tell me the house number or do i have to knock on every door"? the tweets all of a sudden took a very different tone.
so how is it that we can cheer the boxer who makes his troll run scared, yet turn into trolls ourselves in the next breath? or are these two completely different sets of people? i'm not buying the latter.
i agree 100% with this. but regarding the bolded section, although nobody has come out to advocate for it, i can browse this forum and quote posts made by people who have even posted in this very thread that demonstrate very different behavior than what we've just defined as acceptable.not taking them to raids, or not going out of your way to help them, to me, are perfectly acceptable courses of action.
Unacceptable courses of action: messaging them and telling them they're bad, berating them, etc. Those are the kind of things that really do damage a community. None of us are advocating that.
But looking up someone's armory and seeing it look like rainbow bright gemmed their gear and they have missing enchants and just clearly don't know how their class works... I think it's perfectly acceptable to politely turn them down for the PuG raid you're trying to complete.
sorry, but i think this disqualifies him from fitting the description. the word "demand" implies that the person is being a dickhead, and i think that's the biggest thing i objected to in the straw man description. if he was a dickhead, i bet it would have been a lot easier to drop him from the raid group, right?essentially, yes. Granted as I said he was actually a pretty nice guy, so he wouldn't go as far to make a demand.....
dropping a nice guy who's under-performing is much harder on a personal level; the way you described it shows that you weren't being a jerk to him, so +1 internets for you. in fact, it was a pretty good description of how to handle replacing someone that needed to go for the good of the raid team.
depends on how you advertised it, but usually no. unless you said the raid was for much older content, or specifically told people you didn't care about their toons' gear situation, then some effort should be put into getting raid ready.So I'd actually like to ask a question, would that be ok with you guys, if a person showed up to an alt run in completely unenchanted and ungemmed gear?
i'm pretty similar. yesterday i queued for my daily random and i got in just before the last boss. right away a kick box popped up for a hunter who was already in the group, with the reason given "only doing 17k dps which is terrible". i voted no. who cares? i'm going to do 100k on a short fight, so it really doesn't matter who else is in there, as long as they're trying. this heroic might be their progression, and kicking them just before you pull the last boss is a dick move.Actually, for me, the only people I try to kick in LFR would be obvious afkers (afk during fight), and douchebags, including people who are 'that guy'. It's LFR. If you want to be kicking people for DPS or healing meters, go to normal or heroic, imo.
Sure, I cringe sometimes when I see people doing badly in LFR, but, if they're participating, that's fine with me. Intentional AFK is not OK. Especially if you're in normal or heroic gear. I *really* hate that.
You have stated that:
There are people who think they're good, realistically aren't, and think they should be allowed to raid.
You however don't think that somebody who is quite aware of their inadequacy would demand to be carried for the sake of their own personal benefit/enjoyment at the expense of 9 (or 24) other peoples time and effort?
Call me cynical, but I think there are a good amount of people in this world with that mindset.
I know this more than qualify's for Aggs description of "anecdotal and semantic arguments". I think that where you see clear defining differences, I see linked similarity's. If that makes any sense at all.
I got kicked from a raid on my main and went f'ing ballistic. The guy who kicked me didnt know the mechanics and blamed me for the wipe on tortos BECAUSE MY TURTLE KICKS DIDNT INTERUPT Tortos. When I think about it I still want to rip someones head off. I am probably lucky I didn't get banned for some of the things I said, but when you wait 45 minutes, then raid for another 45 and someone pulls that and makes you a scapegoat in a 25 man... I go crazy.
But you are supposed to interrupt the Stone Breath with the turtle kick, aren't you?The guy who kicked me didnt know the mechanics and blamed me for the wipe on tortos BECAUSE MY TURTLE KICKS DIDNT INTERUPT Tortos.


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Get in tip-top shape with the same style tee worn by your favorite players in this Weight Room performance tee by Nike featuring Dri-FIT moisture-wicking fabric to keep you cool and dry even when you're breaking a sweat!
- 100% Polyester fabric
- Dri-FIT technology for ultimate comfort
- Heat transfer glossy graphics
- Imported
- Jock tag
- Lightweight performance top
- Officially licensed collegiate product
- Reinforced taped collar seam
- Rib-knit collar
- Tagless collar
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