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It hasn't made me mean. It has made me realize that I love AoE groups.
First off, I love the new dungeon tool........
I ran like 30 heroics on my tank the first day it came out. I loved it. I try to finish then before the 15 minute timer is up.........No one dies, no one complains it was great.
Now, I am doing it on my healer, and I fear that I am an AXXhole. If I see a tank with 32k+ health (in a non-ICC or TOC 5 man). I want fast pulls cause m y disc priest can keep up. I found the best way to make the tank move faster is to start pulling. (Holy fire ftw). Granted I do not this if they say afk or brb)
But just a slow puller tank makes me go crazy, I was not like this before playing my tank....
So my question has playing a tank made you have expectations when you heal? And do you force your will on other poeple. And do you think I should stop? (Chances I will just run guildies, if i can't handle the pace)
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It hasn't made me mean. It has made me realize that I love AoE groups.
been running the last 2 days in normal pit and forge for my Pall's heal offspec pieces and find myself tapping my foot at geared tanks going slow. On the flipside i also have had a few that go roaring off with buffed 30k grabbing everything, getting out of range, and luckily I'm able to get there just in time to save them at a sliver of life. So i just take the good with the bad.
got my drops in those places as of 30 min ago, so now i just gotta hope for the chest out of heroic Halls, since the tier9 sure doesnt impress me.
now to see which tanks can grab aggro on those lovely pulls at the beginning
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I wouldn't say it makes me mean, most of the time. Sometimes it makes me mean, I guess. But yeah, I think that being a tank is like the ultimate control freak role in WoW. If you're a tank, you're used to being in control, and probably like it. So when you aren't the one in control of the pulls and the run in general, you tend to nitpick everything that other tank does, because it's not what you do, whether that's fast pulls, slow pulls, good interrupts, strong threat, smart use of cooldowns, which mobs to pull next, or whatever the deal is.
So yeah, I get frustrated with other tanks easily when I'm healing (though not as much when I'm dpsing surprisingly), but most of the time I try to let it lie. Once in a while I probably let the inner asshole out.
I've also been loving the new random heroic system. I do chain pulls and also pull two packs at a time if i see that the group can take it. I still hate it though when someone pulls ahead of me. When they do, I let them die first then I take them back. If it's a healer, I let us wipe, tell them "blame (whoever pulled)", then I leave. I don't mind the 15-min lockout.
This doesn't depend only on the tank, but on the group's capacity to burn out packs as well. The only things holding me down during chain pulls are my runes and DnD.
PS: hmm, after reading my post, yeah, it did make me mean
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you made me feel better, even though you would let me die. The worst thing I ever did on my healer, was when one the dpsers was being less than polite I just said I am not healing you. Luckily, the tank wasn't great and lost agro Everyone was at 100% he was dead. I laughed.....That's when I knew i had a problem.
I have 2 alts I regularly play and when not tanking I help the tank in my group as much as I can. On my rogue that means a lot of Tircks of the Trade sometimes interrupting casters so they get in range of the tank and saving the healer even if it means my own death.
On my priest which I mostly play shadow it means fearwarrdng the tank dpsing the right target saving the healer and sometimes but only sometimes pop out of shadowform and do a hymn or a heal.
i think u gotta appreciate that not all tanks will be as experianced as yourself and that when you was learning you would have liked people to be patient with yourself.
there is a line between patient and im gonna fall asleep tho :P
I prefer groups that are capable of at least some smalltalk rather than just quietly grinding out an instance I've done countless times. I prefer that we proceed to the instance at an appropriate pace, but there's a point where it becomes a mindless rush that I do not enjoy.
I actually like it most when I end up with an undergeared or otherwise imperfect group.
I'd rather they went slow than go fast an fucked it up. If you're gonna pull before they do they may not be ready and it could cause an unnecessary wipe.
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I had this yesterday with a hunter - he was just opening up on mobs before I'd pulled them. I waited til the next time he did it and just waited, let the mob beat on him for a while. Then I told him that unless he was going to start misdirecting, he should stop doing that. I don't think I got a single misdirect throughout the entire instance, but he stopped pulling.
Point is that getting initial agro is really useful, especially with mob facing issues being such a bitch at the moment. As a warrior with AOE threat moves on cooldowns, I really want my thunderclap and shockwave to hit as many mobs as possible, not have the scattered around because some dps got initial threat and the caster mob drifted straight to the healer.
So while I can totally understand that following a hesitant tank can be frustrating, I'd say the last thing you should be doing to help him speed up is making his job harder.
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I'm a chain puller on my tank, I check the healers gear then charge in. Mob after mob, I don't even loot. Only time I stop is if the healer goes oom.
I never pull mobs when I'm healing, but I tell the tank in /p to "just keep pulling man, healing is no problem". But unless I'm running with a mate tanking I rarely get a run as fast as I like.
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I am only mean when it comes to AoE tanking, because I am terribad at it.
But no, not completely mean, most of my groups are understanding of my noob-ness. Lol
Simple answer:Yes
Reason most geared tanks pull slow in dungeons is because no one knows how "good" the players on his team are. Gear has and will never be the measuring stick of quality but it atleast shows that they saw that raid for whatever good it does. If you want the tank to pull faster let him know politely in a whisper that he can pull more. Someone pulling for a tank is akin to dps as the tank moving the target out of range and for a healer its akin to letting someone die.
When I tank the heroics I tell my group "keep up, my goal is going to be to keep you in combat the entire time, I'm hereby sorry for any time you are out of combat" and then I just start booking it.
However: I think tanking and guild leading has over time made me meaner in general. While I think overall tanking is easier (as far as tank threat and damage goes, I don't have to be amazing, I just have to be better than our top dps. It's kind of the "I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you." thing) if a tank messes up, it more often ends in a wipe than it does if a dps messes up. You know obviously this is mechanic dependent, but if a dps dies and it is their own damn fault, it's likely the rest of the raid won't die, whereas if it it's a tank, they will.
Overall it makes you really edgy to criticism I think because DPS can make mistakes far more often than a tank and get lambasted less for it. Between that and dealing with bulls*** drama that comes with being a guild leader, I think I've become a far more mean person than I used to be. Makes me sad... I want to be nice and help people, but I've often found myself in that "omg wut a nub" mindset more often then I would have liked to, even though I used to use a sword in my mainhand and a firestone in my offhand as a warlock and try to melee things once too(leveling my first toon to 60, lol).
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Being a good tank gives you the awareness of a jungle cat. Normally I can see or predict things that will kill my DPSers. If they die to it, yeah I let em know. Twins for instance, we have soakers in resist gear help on some portions of the arena floor. Myself and the other tank soak the off color orbs that come behind us. Every now and then an orb gets through a soaker and the DPS don't move and get hit. I see it coming but they don't bc they're mashing buttons.
Does that make me mean to give em shit on vent? I don't think so.
I would let you die the first time, the second time I'd boot you from the group and get a real healer that knows their place in a group.
Yes, tanking encouraged me to not tolerate bullcrap a long time ago. My groups are clean, fast and nobody dies. When somebody joins the group that upsets that it's my job to correct the problem.
I think when people who aren't the tank are pulling, sometimes it's just pissy people who want to go faster, but often it's just a person who doesn't know how it works. I've met a few people who have levelled all the way to 80 by soloing, especially hunters. This tends to mean that they really just don't understand group dynamics, and probably won't learn until you let them die a few times and explain it to them.
I don't know if it has made me mean per se, but I know for a fact that it has been testing my patience.
I'm starting to pull things fast now, from the used routine of taking things slow and steady (I geared this toon from tanking and tanked heroics as soon as I hit 80). However, it's starting to piss me off how dpsers are starting to pull from me and starting to give me a headache.
Pulling things fast is not a big problem for me, but I have run with undergeared healers before, and so I force myself to go more slowly when I have to use last stand and shield wall on trash.
On the other hand, I once saw a very overgeared shamman healing for HoS. I tried my best to make him go OOM (within my limit, which is if I'm dropping 3/4 health or more I'll slow down), but at the end the most I could do is half of his mana.

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The only thing black cannot do is run macromedia shockwave. However Macromedia flash 7.0 is available.
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Yes. Using mplayer or xine, both of which are in the menu, different videos can be played. Sometimes
URLs have problems--if you feed the URL directly to the mplayer, it has a better shot at playing them.
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-Does blag installs JAVA?
No. You do get javascripting. Check out the application "synaptic" in the menu. With it you can use different software repositories to install different applications. The "jpackage" repository is a java-specific repository for lots of javajavajava. Dag's repository has jre (java runtime environment) as well.
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Yes, with ghostview, or ggv. They are in the menu and it can also view them inline in mozilla.
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For flash, you can enable the macromedia repository and download it using synaptic. It will get the correct version for your machine. I don't think there is linux shockwave, but i'm not certain.
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-and if blag does not install these by default, how do I go about installing them?
Synaptic (a GUI front-end to apt-get) is your friend here. There is a BLAG repository that has many more applications, but not programs that aren't Free Software (hence no flash, or java in BLAG). Other repositories have this software available. In the BLAG version of synaptic, you can enable other repositories.
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BLAG doesn't really take donations, but if you want to help a blag-friendly organization, see
Also, I generally suggest using synaptic for installing things, but the methods described by others in this thread are perfectly applicable as well. You can do whichever method you find easier. If you download an RPM, get ones that are built for Fedora Core 1, or if that isnt' available try RedHat 9 versions. Here's an example of how to install foo version 1.2.3:
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The constant in the mitigation formula is based on the attacker's level, whoever that may be. For a boss attacking a level 80 player, the value 16635 is correct. For a player attacking a level 83 boss, the correct constant value is 15232.5At level 80, the damage reduction by armor is calculated by the following equation:
This is silly. You're talking about times to live modified by avoidance without showing how that would relate in equivalence to any other quantity to give it some sort of meaning. On one hand, it's true that over a statistically significant sample of attacks over time with healing such as a tank and spank boss fight you will see the average dps decreased by something approximating the avoidance amount. However, in terms of the reality of most fights where death comes in the form of two or three unavoided (and mitigated by armour) hits with no heal, it's a completely pointless measure. I don't see how that can clarify anything for anyone.So, as with armor, while the percent gain diminishes, and the dps matches that change, the time to live extends in linear steps with the rating gained.
In any case, your math is wrong here. 540 defense (689 rating) goes to 5.6% dodge from defense, as we know. From there:
- 100 dodge rating becomes 100/45.25019 = 2.209935% dodge pre-DR.
- k/A = 0.956/(5.6+2.209935) = 0.122408
- 1/c + k/A = 0.011347 + 0.122408 = 0.133755
- inverting that gives 7.476346% diminished dodge
- Adding 3.4% base dodge gives 10.87635% dodge
- Total avoidance is then 31.2763%
Similarly, {100, 200, 300, 400, 500} rating -> {10.87635, 12.76703, 14.57110, 16.29438, 17.94217}
Using those dodge values and the approximated parry/miss, then using the "avoidance averaged" time to live, we get the following values (keeping the decimals since it's important):
+000 -> 2.121420s
+100 -> 2.182655s (+0.061234s)
+200 -> 2.244401s (+0.061747s)
+300 -> 2.306667s (+0.062266s)
+400 -> 2.369458s (+0.062791s)
+500 -> 2.432781s (+0.063323s)
We see that the increase in TTL is actually on increasing returns here. Note for comparison that when equating stamina to armour and substituting into the TTL formula (see below), the increase in TTL is exactly equal at each step whether you increased armour or health to calculate.
That's right. The derivative of the time to live function loses the armour component completely and becomes a function of time only, and health is just a constant in there. However, we get the same effect for increasing armour because of the Effective Health effect. If you could somehow rationally factor avoidance into the time to live equation, it is a constant and is lost if you take dTime/dArmour. If you instead take dTime/dAvoidance you will get something, but unless you have some sort of valid equivalence between avoidance and armour/health, it's going to be meaningless. (this is not phrased right at all but I am sick and falling asleep, so it'll have to do)Here you see a linear increase in health also represents a linear increase in time to live.
Using armour-stamina equivalence, we can calculate that the equivalence for 40k/28k is (16635+28000)/40000 = 1.115875. Using that we can calculate that 2231.75 armour will give you the same TTL gains as 2000 health (and will give you precisely the same TTL gain of 0.089439936 at each step to at least nine decimal places) How did you arrive at the 130 rating value to approximate the same TTL gains? (You didn't identify a formula for equating X rating to Y stamina or Z armour)We'll work from a baseline of 40k health, 28k armor (62.73%), 6% miss, 22% dodge (from 350 dodge rating), and 19% parry (from 200 rating). 47% total avoidance.
Base/Unmitigated = 60,000 per hit, 30,000 dps, 1.5 sec to live
Geared Baseline as above = 22,362 per hit, 5,926 dps, 6.75 sec to live
6% miss is wrong for 540 defense; you'll have 9.29% (assuming not a night elf). Similarly, 200 parry rating with base 10% undiminished goes to 18.57%, and the basic 350 dodge rating again with 10% undiminished does go to 22.04%.Sufficient steps to show 130 dodge rating steps increase time to live by (...drumroll please...) 0.34 seconds.
Going and recalculating based on those and stepping dodge rating through {350, 480, 610, 740, 870, 1000} gives these TTLs using the avoidance average again:
+000 -> 7.140725
+130 -> 7.464939 (+0.324213)
+260 -> 7.799366 (+0.334427)
+390 -> 8.144497 (+0.345131)
+520 -> 8.500854 (+0.356357)
+650 -> 8.868994 (+0.368140)
Again we see increasing returns on TTL here. Even if you pick the "wrong" amount of rating to add to match the increase in TTL you got from the matching stamina and armour increases, the only thing you miss is the nice "coincidental match" of the TTL steps between armour, stamina, avoidance. Picking the "wrong" amount of rating would be impossible if you had an equivalence function to plug stamina or armour into. In any case, adding the same amount of rating, whatever it may be, should give you exactly the same increase in TTL at each step, which we don't see here.
(As noted, I am sick and fuzzy headed right now. Any mistakes in my math, even spreadsheet-assisted, are mine and apologies if I did mess up. Fall over time now.)


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Jets-Dolphins: Pregame TweetsPosted by on October 28, 2012 – 2:47 pm
Here are today's pregame tweets for Jets-Dolphins at MetLife Stadium, in case you missed them on Twitter. Follow Bob Wischusen, Eric Allen and me for our tweets during each Jets game on https://twitter.com/nyjets.
#RL Gray afternoon for Jets-Dolphins 1 pm ET start at MetLife Stadium. Cloudy, chance of rain, temps in high 50s, wind gusts to 20 mph.
#RL Jets lead Dolphins in all-time series 49-44-1. Jets lead in all-time series at home 27-19, have won 1 of last 4 but 10 of last 14.
#RL Mark Sanchez career vs. MIA: 7 games, 120-for-233 passing (51.5%), 1623 yds, 10 TDs, 6 INTs, 13 sacks, 77.6 rating, 3-4 record.
#RL TE Dustin Keller career vs MIA: 8 games, 28 recs, 328 yds, 11.7 avg, 17 first downs, 4 TDs.
#RL Shonn Greene career vs MIA: 7 games, 82 carries, 247 yds, 3.0 avg, 0 TDs, 6 recs, 41 yds, 0 TDs.
#RL K Nick Folk is 41-for-43 career (95.3%) in 4th-quarter FG tries (incl playoffs), 2nd-best pct among all NFL kickers since 1991.
#RL Ryan Tannehill career vs NYJ: 1 game, 16-for-36 (44.4%), 196 yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT, 0 sacks, 50.2 rating, 0-1 record.
#RL Reggie Bush career vs NYJ: 3 games, 26 carries 169 yds (6.5 avg), 0 TDs, 6 recs, 15 yds, 0 TDs.
#RL CB Antonio Cromartie leads Jets with 3 INTs. Cro has 10 INTs as a Jets since '10, with 1 coming @ MIA in Game 16 last season.
#RL K Dan Carpenter career vs NYJ: 15-for-17 in all FG tries, with both misses coming in Game 3 @ MIA last month, from 47, 48 yds.
#RL Jets inactives: QB Greg McElroy, RB Bilal Powell, S Eric Smith, LB Bart Scott, DT Damon Harrison, TE Jeff Cumberland, DT Kenrick Ellis.
#RL Bart Scott had appeared in 119 consecutive RS games, 5th-longest streak among active LBs, 8th-longest streak among active def players in NFL.
#RL Third-round rookie LB Demario Davis making his pro starting debut for Bart Scott at ILB alongside LB David Harris.
#RL TE Hayden Smith, signed from Jets practice squad on SAT, is active for this game and could make his pro debut.
#RL Active for Jets: NT Sione Pouha (back), who's missed past 3 games, WR Clyde Gates (shoulder), who missed past 2 games.
#RL MIA inactives: QB Pat Devlin, CB Richard Marshall, LB Josh Kaddu, T Will Yeatman, TE Michael Egnew, WRs Rishard Matthews & Anthony Armstrong.
#RL Walt Anderson is the referee. Anderson has been ref at 9 previous Jets games since '03, incl '09 "Win And We're In" Game 16 vs CIN.
#RL Jets in green jerseys, white pants today. Jets u/ Rex Ryan since '09 are 11-9 in green/white, 9-7 at home in green/white.
Tags: Dan Carpenter, Mark Sanchez, MetLife Stadium, Miami Dolphins, Nick Folk, Reggie Bush, Rex Ryan, Ryan Tannehill, Shonn Greene
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By Karan on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Seahawks shopping Edwards, get it done!
By Jack on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Becareful what you wish for. Boy you Jets fans wanted So badly to have OC, Brian Schottenheimer fired for years and now your wish came ture. Tony Sparano got be the worse OC, Jets ever had. He got to go like NOW! not at the end of the season.
By scjoe on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Here are some of the things I learned from this game…1-The Dolphins 2nd string QB is clearly better then anything we have on this team! 2-You can officially place the "B" word on Kyle Wilson, he can't cover a twin size mattress with a king sized sheet! And of course 3-It is pretty obvious the NY Jets are pretenders, not contenders! With that said, I ask this question, If there is still a Mark Sanchez supporter standing, please tell me why? Aside from the garbage time, game over, yardage and TD, he was his usual self. I stated just yesterday that the NY Jets would need a non Sanchez type game to get a W. What did we get? A "typical" MS type game and a humiliating loss!
By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
I was all for Rex, giving him the benefit of the doubt, after today I'm done, he is as bad a HC as Sanchez is at QB, he looked like a wet noodle walking the sidelines.emotionless except 1st down on 20 losing by 20, next series 3 and out he's a joke, he doesn't know how to adjust it's so obvious to me now ,Tebow on the wing?, who could possibly take him seriously, play him at QB /RB or let him go. like I said earlier Book on Sanchez Blitz and he folds making mistake after mistake. I'm so spitting mad Rex Mike -T and TS need to be fired be4 seasons end These guy's get paid millions and fans get the shaft, Time for them to let Woody know. were not taking it anymore, Boycott games watch how fast changes get done
By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Another game Fumbled, stumbled, and bumbled INT away. By coaches as well as Sanchez.. what a disgrace. I'm so embarrassed to call myself a Jet fan anymore even Mike Westhoff ST's were horrible last 2 weeks , was all we as fans had left to hang our hats on, They need to be fired be4 next years draft, I don't want them destroying our # 1 or 2 pick in the first round . we need it to count if we're ever going to become more than a joke in this league,
By scjoe on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
What a sad, sad, sad, state of affairs. Best thing this brain thrust can possibly do is to give McElroy ALL the reps during the bye week and turn the job over to him. No Tebow at QB! H back or TE if you have to. There are needs all over the board, but the most glaring is at the QB position. If Mc can do it, fine! If he can't then you know what first priority is this coming off season. Stand pat and you will regret it.
By GaryC on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Still nice to know in the bully world,they always get it in the end.Enough of that talk that you can win with problem makers.That being said I am waiting for the first post that says if this teams loses three games and the jets win the next four and we get help from so and so we are in the playoffs.
By Another Tom on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Another signature "train wreck " loss from Rex & Co.It looked like we were hungover from our "moral" victory vs. NE last week. The entire team was inconsistent as Miami executed their game plan perfectly. Many on this site are tired of the Tebow experiment…I m tired of the T bomb/Rex/Sanchez experiment…Lets move on
By GaryC on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
with Dennis Byrd being there they put on a performance like that,disgraceful.
By Charliejet on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Tannenbaum has no idea what he is doing, Rex is living a dream world, and Johnson couldn't care less. Blinka the philosopher- any words of wisdom please !
(No sand in face)
By Charliejet on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Out of all of em' – if I could push the one button to change it all on the jets, it would be to make Tannenbaum go away and get a real GM on this organization and what button would YOU push?
By scjoe on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
GaryC, if NE losses the next 5 games, and Miami losses it's next 5 games and blah, blah, blah. LOLOL You know what? It wouldn't matter anyway, because what do you think the Jets will be doing during that time?
By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Prove positive Rex needs to go, He's still saying in pressers Sanchez is his best chance to win,. we need to find a way to get better, best week of practice to date , Miami played well, made plays early we couldn't over come, Blah Blah Blah,if he truly believes this, he's admitting defeat 60 million and 5 good picks and or players, for another bust, sure what else can he say, How about admitting you were schooled once again by a rookie head coach Rex , anyone with any football knowledge, can see Sanchez cannot win on a consistent basis in this league, his #s prove it. we witnesses it week in and week out, enough already Woody only you can End the bleeding
By nytitan on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
I thought the bye was next week!
By Joe on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Gholsten, Sanchez, Wilson, Duccasse, Wilkerson, Couples A TEAM COULD DRAFT WORSE PLAYERS IF THEY TRIED and its all catching up to REX MIKE T AND COMPANY .All during the offseason i preached CHANGING the ocord was NOTHING MORE THAN A POLITICAL MOVE (COACH DANNY RON A YOU GUYS LEARN ANYTHING )Every coaching staff at this level KNOWS EQUAL Xs Os as IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE TALENT THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH You want to win a SB HISTORY PROVES YOU NEED AN ELITE QB which brings us to Sanchez .The guy ON HALF THE NFL TEAMS WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME MAKING THE ROSTER .Rex knows this BUT HOW DO YOU GO TO WOODY and say (in a QB DRIVEN LEAGUE )YOU WASTED 50 PLUS million and years of DEVELOPMENT TIME ON
By kw65Fan on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Where was the urgency Soprano…like a no-huddle from 3rd quarter on. Got what we wished for with another horrible OC. Sanchez is a disgrace…no urgency also…looked beaten already in 3rd quarter…just going thru the motions. Time for a change Rex..T-bomb…trade Tebow…get whatever you can…Jags will take him. Put in Mac…NOW…enough already…lets see what we got with the kid. I bet 100% better composure than Sanchez….below 50% again before garbage stats…such a loser and he shows it…you see it right on camera. He is not going to change at all…no fire in him…nothing….
By Sam i am on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Somthin stinks in the meadowlands, and its not fish.
The dolphins stole the cookies and the jets got a spankin.
The teams a wreck, Gota clean house.
Same thing over and over..Wake up woodie, the house is on fire.
By Joe on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
As far as BRAYLEEN EDWARDS ,PLAX BURESS ITS ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NOTHING MORE THAN A WASTE OF MORE TIME AND MONEY. HELLO WITH OR WITHOUT THEM THIS TEAM IS BAD (REALLY BAD) and it all STARTS AND REVOLVES AROUND THE QB (Its time FOR THE DREAMERS to STOP LIVING IN A FANTASYLAND OF SB VICTORYS TO COMEAND REALIZE WE GOT NO SHOT ).IN TODAYS NFL ITS NOT A COINCIDENCE THAT THE LOMBARDI basically passes from team to team WITH THE ELITE QBS (BRADY,BREES MANNINGS ROTHESBURGER ROGERS )
By Joe on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Mike Jet regarding Tebow on the wing and split out wide did you hear Dan Fouts basically LAUGHING AT US .(WHO ARE THE JETS TRYING TO FOOL) Fouts analogy was the JETS HAVE NO FIREPOWER AND MIAMI KNOWS THIS SO ITS A JOKE
By john sciandra on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
being a season ticket holder,i didnnt even attend todays game because i already new the outcome.Rex ryans job depends on sanchez doing well so you can forget about tebow getting playing time.ryan will go down with the ship.Hearing sanchez say hes playing and having fun made me sick to my stomach.If they dont move on from sanchez after this season i will consider giving up my tickets.
By Joe on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Gary your exactly correct after A FEW DAYS THE LOSS WILL WEAR OFF (BYE WEEK ECT )SOME DREAMER LIVING IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL FANTASYLAND ABOUT JET SB VICTORYS TO COME will start the IF ,WOULD HAVE, COULD HAVE, SHOULD HAVE in relation to the COMING SKEDULE( MAKING- THE PLAYOFFS ECT .) Gary the above is inevitable .THE RESULT NEVER CHANGES HENCE THE FACT THAT WERE RANKED AS THE NUMBER 6 MOST SNAKEBIT FRANCHISE IN THE NFL. Its ACTUALLY worse now because OF REXS MOUTH ( THE PUBLICITY GENERATED BY ALL OF HIS IDLE BOASTS GUARANTEES )has made us the JOKE OF THE NFL
By nytitan on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Go Giants
By MIKE on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Tebow time. Sick and tired of waiting each game to see which Mark Sanchez show's up. I mean the best Sanchez is still not very good but at least he can keep the Jets in the the game. But it's clear that Rex will live by the Sanchize or die by the Sanchez, and that Tebow must of been a Woody Johnson idea. I mean how do trade a 4th round pick and take on 4 mil in salary for a guy who is playing up back on the punt team. Why not use him at least as a decoy? Now sure what the direction of this team is.
Randy, how many snaps did TT get today?
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Everybody here has already covered what's wrong with this team. What I'll add is that so far I'm on track to predict the result of every game this yr. I said we'd lose to NE twice, which we're halfway to doing, and lose to SF, HOU, and PIT. I said we'd split with MIA, which we've done, and BUF, which we might do. I guessed we'd lose to SD (I'll stand by that), have trouble with SEA (I'll especially stand by that) and TEN, and now I'll add have trouble with ARI. These predictions put us on track for roughly the 6-10 yr that many of us saw coming, maybe inching up to 7-9 or 8-8 or maybe going as low as 4-12 or 5-11. Nothing has happened to drastically change that picture. The real question is what will happen in the off-season.
By chris long time jet fan on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
this team goes where sanchez takes them so we are going nowhere ..rex says sanchez gives us the best chance to win.. he must go too…mark misses to many reads ..holds the ball to long…but what he does give you every week without fail is interceptions fumbles,,,batted balls…starting to think he cant see over the o-line…mark took the hit in the first quarter i knew we were done.
By chris long time jet fan on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
everybody knows to biltz mark …garanteed victory ,,,send him to any afc team ..nobody will pick him up.hes terrible..hes got to be the worst qb the jets ever had….this is almost as bad as the isaah thomas and the knicks pitiful.
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply
Ira, with 14 catches, S Hill's on track to catch about the 35 passes that you predicted before the season, considering he missed two full games. (That's with Holmes out but Kerley becoming the #1.) Had he played in those games, I think he'd be more of a candidate for the 40-45 that a few of us had in mind for him. I'd argue that a for a rookie like him, very gifted and very raw, catching about 35 passes and showing deep-threat and scoring potential is a pretty good debut on a team with a QB with a perennial 70-75% rating. I'd also argue that we have to get the QB situation upgraded and make what changes are necessary next yr so that guys like Kerley and Hill, who may well have Nicks-Cruz-like potential, get to realize it — on THIS team!
By scjoe on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Just got through watching the Giants win the Worls Series in 4 straight. It took a little bit of that horrible, bitter taste out of my mouth from watching that dispicable performance by the Jets earlier today.
By Karan on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
I stand behind Mark.
By JetBlue on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Not enough room to list all that went wrong today. Rex looked and sounded like a coach out of excuses and defeated. To keep proclaiming that he beleives in Sanchez is just another example of how clueless he is. Time to let McElroy put on his uniform and see what he can do. Rex needs to get out of the way of progress.
By sal cottone on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Just want to say thankyou to the football gods, my last post last week was asking to drop thr ground and pound and let Mark run it 50 plus attempts, couldnt ask for anyyhing more. i look at it as a a test ..like finals in school. I hope woody realizes that its time to start looking in a new direction at QB, he is not learning, same mistakes, over and over. its ashame cause he does have talent. i dont think its all on mark, he has been jerked around more than most, he deserves a new shot somewhere else, unles they remove Rex and company. and bring in a qualty QB coach, but its too late for tyhat now ,here with the Jets. Also Mike petin needs to be on the sidelines, dont deserve the booth.
By Charliejet on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Karan I stand behind common sense.
By joeydefiant on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
You clowns act like the team is personally trying to ruin your day. No wonder you spend all day on here, all your family and friends are sick of hearing you whine and complain. GRUMPY OLD MEN.
By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
What's more amazing than this embarrassment, is the outright Incompetence shown by our coaches,GM Sanchez is incapable of stringing 2 in a row , let alone win from behind , yet even after the game is out of reach he is never pulled, ,Whats just as amazing Rex doesn't realize he's destroying his own rep with any other team who might take a chance hiring him on as towel or water boy, I mean really, I don't like insulting him but he's sealing his fate decisions he's made with players, game situations, clock, management, preparation, sticking with Mark for so long all while he's making Himself, woody, us fans, and team, with help from Mike -T NFL laughing stock of the Century
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
kw65, I posted something during the 4th qtr that didn't make the grade with Randy about how I couldn't believe it took until 12 minutes to go and down 4 scores for Rex and Sparano to start throwing. But that's of a piece with this team that fails to practice 2-minute drills at the half during exhib games, as if they know they're not seriously going to try to execute them during the season. The entire offensive character of the Jets (that's not a pun) under Rex is ridiculous and yet it apparently cant change until he, Sanchez, and Mr T are all gone because this kind of stonewalling is their own personal Benghazi. I think if we don't really shake things up in the off-season, a lot more ticket holders will start echoing john sciandra's post.
By GaryC on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
scjoe,good job with the giants,you being a historian,this world series was like the 1954 when everyone thought the Indians with,Lemon,Garcia,Wynn and Feller were going to beat giants and lost four in a row,same this year with the Tiger staff,four game sweep for Giants,now why can't the jets repeat the 1969 super bowl win.
By Alex G on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Go New York Giants….
By harry-o on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
I 've got noth'n
it is what it is
just accept it
maybe they can beat the jags
By SCfromNY on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
I like the Kerley – Hill posibility of becoming Nicks – Cruz unfortunately with Sanchez or Tebow we will never know. We need to trade Tebow for whatever wee can get, draft pick or maybe someones back up LB. Call the Chiefs or Jax and offer Sanchez while agreeing to pay half his salery to get rid of him. DO NOT wait for the off season to make changes. Fire Tanny and sign Polian before another team signs him. Pry Gruden away from ESPN while (I hate tom say it) firing Rex. Gruden can take the second half to evaluate what he has selecting new co-ordinaters to replace many we have especially Sporano. Sporano could not get his team up to beat the team that fired him and to into the bye as a contender. If playoffs were today Miami 5th seed.
By kw65Fan on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Don't get knocked over when he falls Karan. Don't know what you see but I see NOT a leader ..just see it in his eyes from 3rd quarter on. NO fire in him (leadership)…no urgency…was he getting rest of offense fired up on the sidelines…NO…sitting on the bench…sulking. What finally changed my decision was last week after the Pat's game…all giddy with them after the game. Nothing but a LOSER. Have to change the attitude of this team…with the QB being number 1. Like i said before in earlier post…during this 2 weeks…trade Tebow…get rid of him…total waste…give Mac all reps during this time….ENUF ALREADY…
By DKM on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
In all my years im going to the games i never left a game early no matter what, believe it or not yesterday was the first time and that largely cause there was no trust in this regime and QB for us having a miracle comeback like once before and the fact i live in LI and the Storm coming in is at this point much more exitment than my beloved jets. As for Rex one think we learned in his tenure here that he is a extremly loyal guy and doesnt throw his guys under the Bus no matter,but this will contribute more to his dismissal on the end of the year. And it will be interesting to see if his loyality goes as far as suggesting in his new job that MS is the right guy for building a winner.
By DKM on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Just like other fans mentioned here before MS has become a clear case of Jackel and Hyde.The Oline has become the worst line in Football considering there where 3 PB on it what a joke. Im in line with JFS64 that the most you can expect out of this season if everybody plays its best, 8-8 would be a great accomplishment, anything less is what the team actualy should be, your record says you are what you are, remember BP.
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Sorry if it takes you half an hour to write 4 sentences, joeydefiant, but others of us can do it while going on three other different sites. And don't draw conclusions about veteran Jet fans until you've met 'em, most of the ones I know, schooled on the highly competitive streets of the Five Boroughs, don't even give the time of day to friends of the female variety unless they're way younger than us. (Unlike the present-day Jets, some of us still have a nose for the end zone. ) SCfromNY and MJV, good work going for big solutions instead of piddling little issues…sounds like this presidential campaign I've been hearing about…
By DKM on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Another quick note, that we give MS an extention looms pretty big rihgt now, come season end this will be 2 QB with big Contract on this team wich you cant get rid off. With the possibiletys you need to draft another one in the first round, thank god we have Mr. T the Salary guru not Talent evaluator on our side.Jikes. Just like somebody mentoined before this becoming more and more like the NYKnicks mess with many years of recovery and loosing to come.
By DKM on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Did Rex yesterday in his presser lock absolutley defeated and did anybody got the impression at least i did, that he lost the Team and that he answering the Questions with the same answers he did give after the 49ners game. How many times "me and the Coaching stuff have to be going back to the Drawingboard and fix the things we are doing wrong" can you say, so what exactly have you been doing since the last time you said this.
By ron alexander on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
JOE, I am a little insulted you would include my name amongst the diehards who blindly follow the company line. If you have read any of my posts since the pre-season 'debacles' I have long since changed my tune based on what I have seen. Now, I dont ever want to become as bitter or cynical as you are, but I am not an idiot. I spent a lot of time conversing with S.C.Joe as he & I tend to see things in a simular light. If you had been reading my post you would have seen that I have agreed with many of your posts and on occassion actually defended you to others.(not that you need defending) but when you are right your right!
By ron alexander on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
S.C.Joe, 64, &JOE, well, its time to blow this whole thing up! Rex looked clueless on the side lines and pathetic during the post game press conference. I cant wait to hear IRA's take on this "debacle"! I'm sure SPICER will point out the 7 dropped passes but completely ignore the 15 that were way off target & the 3 passes that should have been intercepted but dropped by Dolphin defenders? Rex said they had a great week of practice? That must be because they were going against there own teammates who continue to demonstrate they are not good enough!
S.C.J, I loved your K.Wilson comments,hysterical! Actually, I think we should trade our Wilson to Tom Hanks for his pal Wilson, as his Wilson we could at least talk to?
By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Karan. I hope you and Sanchez have much success, didn't realize there were farm teams in the NFL ? Well good luck bring your lunch
By scjoe on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
GaryC, never been prouder to be a Giants fan. I remember the 54 series as if it were yesterday. I remember Willie's catch in the deepest part of center, and yes, I remember Cleveland, after winning 111 games being overwhelming favorites. In the last 3 world series championships for the Giants (54, 2010, 2012) they are a combined 12-1 They leave no doubt! As for the Jets? (:-(
By scjoe on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
64, I really hate to admit this, and I am not totally sold on it yet, but….the team looked extremely unprepared, undisciplined, showed no sense of urgency, they seem to never learn from their mistakes, complacency seems to have set in at certain positions (I have no idea why) and all of that has to fall on the HC.Add the stubborness to make a change at the QB spot, and it appears it is all going down hill fast! Not sure where it will all lead.
By GaryC on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Is Jim Fassel getting blackballed,for that matter,the Mangenius too.
By scjoe on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Randy, any reason that you know of why that "sack fumble" of Sanchez that never hit the ground was not ruled an INT? Personally, I think that at some point it will be reversed.
By Randy Lange on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
scjoe, I believe the officials' ruling was that Sanchez lost the ball before his arm started forward. That's how I saw it. Certainly that's how it was scored. Since it was ruled a sack, there was no pass because you can't have a sack when the ball is thrown. And fumbles don't have to hit the ground to be ruled fumbles. The scoring could be changed but I don't think it will be.
By Frank on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Defending a 4 year NFL starting QB who is ranked 30th at the halfway point of the season is comical.
We are two Dan Carpenter missed chip shot FG's away from 2-6 which is more what this team is and I predicted a 4 win season …..if Tebow does not become the starting QB.
Joe Phibin is the coach I wanted hired to replace Rex last offseason. Philbin has the Dolphins playing great TEAM football in every aspect of the game.
Rex should stay with Jamarcus Sanchez the whole season and Woody should send both packing at the end of the year.
By ELI RODRIGUEZ on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
By Christopher on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
at least we improved our draft position, let's face no one really thought this team was going anywhere.
By chris long time jet fan on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
rex brought tebow in so everyone would like mark…..tebow was wide open yesterday and mark would not pass him the ball and we all know why…tebow and mcelroy should get real game time. the season is over by week 8..tebow is a winner and shows emotions instead of the dumb vacant stare….mark already said he dont care about the fans only the locker room…mark is also ruining alot of careers because he s the coaches pet….rex what happens in the real world when you dont do your job?
By chris long time jet fan on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
rex says mark played pretty good….there lies the problem.
By chris long time jet fan on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
mark takes points off the board every week in the red zone…if you dont change rez and sanchez then blame it on the qbs coach for he is still the common denominator….PLEASE
By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Only laughs and enjoyment I get from this site lately, is listening to the Statistical geniuses, taking hours looking up stats to prove a point, they're right and many of us wrong, like leading in our division 2-0 only 4 games in, if we beat this team and that team loses, hope and pray every AFC team ahead of us loses 6 games, play to lose long enough eventually opposing team will pull a Sanchez,Sack, trip, slip,fall int fumble INT. we'll have a chance to win
moon and galaxy a line .Brady gets in grown toe nail misses enough games Miami's rookie HC QB revamped team didn't blitz or improve. Hope Buffalo forgot who they're playing like they did last time. OH right forgot Sanchez having a bad day
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
Ron A, talk of dropped passes on this team is a highly debatable in many cases because Sanchez's throws are almost never right where they should be, even when the WRs contort themselves to catch them, a pt GaryC made many times LAST yr. scjoe, that's nice that you're open to new thinking but really, anyone who thinks at this pt that Rex is likely to ever become a top-tier HC is simply either biased, uninformed, or in serious denial. And yes, MJV, the proof of the loser mindset that prevails on this team now is those ongoing, absurd rationalizations for how we can succeed without being any good, i.e. "Mark doesn't have to be great as long as everybody around him is perfect." (That's still my favorite.)
By chris long time jet fan on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply
lets not blame tebow for sanchez lack of rythm..rex put all his eggs in one basket..and its a bust…whats frustating is its taking so long to fix….no players are alound to say or be who they are cause of the qb and coach relationship.,,all following the team line..and all the people who do say are gone ….and 3 wrs mason buress holmes all were good wrs…and t,o would of said the same thats why he not here when we had all those wr injuries.
By joeydefiant on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply
I hate the coach. I hate the QB. I hate the owner. I hate the GM. But i spend lots of money going to games and spend my day off watching them play. And of course I spend the rest of my time criticizing them on my computer!
Makes sense to me. If you dislike something so much why do you spend all your time talking about it?
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply
Totally agree with you, Frank, about Sanchez and making so many excuses for somebody at the 4-yr pt…not that there isn't a lot of that going on in the press over somebody else who's been around 4 yrs without accomplishing all that much…
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply
joeydefiant, you must also be joeyyveryyoung, joeygreenasthedayislong, or joeywho'sconvincedhimselfhe'spowerless. When you get a little older, smarter, or more experienced, you'll understand that people can win wars or stop them with not much more speaking up than some of us are doing on this site in just minutes a day. There's probably not a person who posts here who hasn't had the experience of helping to make a statement that has resulted in a big change in the team that they root for…except maybe you, of course. First few tips: Learn to read, type, and understand how football is played a little faster.
By joeydefiant on Oct 31, 2012 | Reply
The funniest thing I ever read is that "Jet Fan Since '64 Tom" thinks Woody Johnson, Mike Tannebaum, and Rex Ryan read his comments and make changes to the team based on them. Wow, are you delusional.
"you'll understand that people can win wars or stop them with not much more speaking up than some of us are doing on this site in just minutes a day. There's probably not a person who posts here who hasn't had the experience of helping to make a statement that has resulted in a big change in the team that they root for"
By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 1, 2012 | Reply
joeydefiant, you can think anything you want is funny but when you don't answer with any credible arguments, no one will listen. Ridicule instead of logic is the currency of the uninformed. But don't listen to me, listen to the people posting here who say they're going to stop going to games, give up their long-held season seats, start pushing for a boycott, etc. That's what I mean about how it doesn't take much to move owners, GMs, and HCs. Of course, if you knew anything about even recent Jet history, much less long-time Jet history, you'd know all that already. We didn't go out and get folks like Vinnie, Favre, and Tebow because the fan base was thrilled with what we had. My guess is you've been watching football, oh, less than 5 yrs…
By ron alexander on Nov 6, 2012 | Reply
TOM64,no doubt you make a good point about the recievers having to make great catches on M.S off target heaves.But there is so much blame to go around.M.S. still gets hit way too much as the o.l though improved from the days of Hunter still leaves a lot to be desired.The dropped passes are still a big problem and S.C.J's comments about the lack of preperation and effort all come in to play here as well. I'm on vacation in SCarolina but I'm reading about coaches on the hot seatAmazingly, Rex's name was not on the list? You know I have been supportive of both Rex & M.S in the past but as I told JOE(who refuses to answere my posts) "that ship has sailed! I have come to the conclusion its time to blow this whole thing up!
By ron alexander on Nov 6, 2012 | Reply
Joey defiant,come on dude! Coming on here and attacking people who you obviously know nothing about is dumb at best! TOM64 although he critises the organization, does put himself out there by also offering soloutions to the problems Hey, no problem if you want to disagree as I often do, but remember, this blog is here to offer people an opportunity to say what they feel! It really doesn't matter if anyone from the Jets organization reads this or not. This is just an opportunity to share our thoughts & see how others . Judging by your comments you must feel that everything is great in Jetville & thet you will be thrilled to finish the season say 6-10 ? Hey, if that makes you happy o.k!


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Gestalt Raid Videos
Gestalt is recruiting smart players of any role or class. Players who submit an outstanding application will be considered. If you turn out to be an amazing player who performs at or above the level of our current raiders, you will be slotted for progression regardless of seniority.
Currently we are looking for a couple of good healers and a DK and Feral tank with a DPS offspec. as high priority.
Progression Schedule
Tuesday-Thursday (Prone to Change once in Cata)
8:30 PM Eastern to 12:30 AM Eastern
Why You Should Join Us
· We put alot of focus on the fundamentals of raiding, such as survival, research, and adapting well to mechanics.
· We've banned the word "RNG" from encounter discussions.
· We never recruit second-string raiders -- we have no intention of benching great applicants.
· We refine and update our strategies even after we've killed the boss.
· We recognize merit and performance, not seniority or rank, in our roster.
· We have fun in raids and have the best atmosphere, but we get serious when necessary.
· We have no drama.
What We're Doing
We are currently 12/12 normal modes in Cata and now working on heroics.
What We've Done
Gestalt has a rich raiding history in that we are the remnants and former members of the guild Eventide, which many would recognize from TankSpot.
· Heroic: Bane of the Fallen King
· Glory of the Icecrown Raider (10 and 25 man)
· A tribute to Mad skill (25man)
· A tribute to Insanity. (10m)
· Observed (25 and 10 man)
· Glory of the Ulduar Raider. (25 and 10)
· Conqueror/Champion of Ulduar.
· Glory of the Raider, and Immortal.
About Gestalt
Gestalt is a guild with a very rich history in terms of raiding and involvement in the wow community. It is made up of the remnants and former members of the guild Eventide which was responsible for many of the guide videos on TankSpot.com. Having been under new leadership since ToC came out, we decided to make our own page in the community of WoW and thus became Gestalt, which means 'greater than the sum of all its parts' which is a clear definition of how we see our guild and each other.
We are a progression-driven guild, built from the ground up for effective raiding. We value the fundamentals in raiding above all else, these include:
· Survival: This is the most important quality we look for in our raiders, being able to survive even if you somehow end up in a critically bad situation.
· Attentiveness: We have little patience and tolerance for those who can't pay attention to their surroundings at all times during an encounter.
· Quick to Adapt: You must learn how to adapt to mechanics quickly and effectively, learning how to best utlilize your spells and rotation in an encounter by encounter basis.
· Perform your role 'well' even around boss mechanics: We believe mechanics are never an excuse to do your job poorly.
· Knowing your class: No one should have to teach you how to play your class, in a well working unit each peice needs to pull their own weight. This means knowing how to utlilize class specific abilities such as Ice Block, blink, Feign Death etc.
· Willingness to accept and give constructive criticism: Keyword is 'constructive'. This is something we believe strongly in, if you cannot accept criticism you will never become a better player, and if you are too afraid to give it when necessary then you are doing a disservice to your guild-mates.
· Attendance: When you don't show up for raid you are letting 24 other people down. We expect a good solid attendance from all of our raiders.
· Consistency: Occasional good performance is not acceptable. Consistent good performance is necessary.
· Attitude: Last but definitely not least, a great attitude is essential for raiding with us. No one likes that one person who does nothing but complain and try to spread their poison to others.
As players, we get frustrated with raiders who do not care about their classes as much as we do. Additionally, we are turned off by players who are prone to drama, talking in trade chat, or posting on public forums. For these reasons, we recruit only players who share our desire and ability for top performance and who honor our strict no-drama policy.
Join Us!
Do you know your class inside and out? Do you have a great attitude? Can you meet our raid schedule and maintain top attendance? Do you want to be surrounded by players who care about their performance as much as you do? Please apply at:
www.gestalt-guild.com Register and click the recruitment tab above!
Last edited by Kanzer; 02-12-2011 at 02:23 PM.