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Freshman Derek Low rigged up his Berkeley dorm room with something he calls B.R.A.D., which is short for "Berkeley Ridiculously Automated Dorm." According to The Daily Californian, Derek started the install on February 4 and finished just a few days ago. He then uploaded a 6-minute YouTube video (see below) to show off his completed project—and of course, people are taking notice.
That's probably because Derek has one of the few dorm rooms with automated lighting, drapes, music, motion detection, and more. He can control everything through voice recognition, but a wireless remote, his iPhone and his iPad are also in on the control party.
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Working with a budget of just a few hundred dollars, Derek created most of the magic using X10 software and the ActiveHome Computer Interface (CM15A). For a closer peek at Derek's project, click through our slideshow. He also has a complete list of materials and other details about the dorm listed on his website.Follow Electronic House on Facebook and Twitter.
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Known for their hot, spicy, pungent flavor, cloves are a favorite seasoning spice for meats, baked goods, and beverages. Clove essential oil is a valued aromatic, and used traditionally as a remedy for skin conditions, to calm digestive upset, and to relieve nausea.
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The name "clove" is derived from the Latin "clavus", which means "nail", aptly describing the round head and short stem of the clove bud. The clove has been used traditionally for thousands of years for its numerous aroma-therapeutic, medicinal, culinary and decorative uses.One of the most incredible and prized qualities of clove oil is the level of antioxidants it carries. On the ORAC* rating scale, clove oil takes the lead with a score of over 10 million! Blueberries, one of the highest-rated ORAC foods, have a score of 2400, and that's not small…yet one drop of clove oil provides more than 400 times that amount.*ORAC = Oxygen Radical Absorption Capacity. The higher the ORAC score is, the more capable the particular food, spice or herb is of destroying free radicals (antioxidants).
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As a powerful antiseptic, clove oil was once breathed through leather beaks by European doctors to help keep the plague away! Diffusing clove oil into the air helps to minimize airborne germs, and what is breathed in likewise works in the body. The spicy aroma has also been found to reduce drowsiness, depression, irritability, and headaches, assist memory recall, and increase circulation. For a cheering winter blend, try mixing clove, cassia, and orange oil in a diffuser or add drops to water in a spray bottle. Diffuser World is where we buy our diffusers. Out of their excellent selection, our favorite is the Aroma-Pro Essential Oil Diffuser.
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Clove oil works as well as Oregano oil when used for fungal conditions such as athlete's foot, nail and skin fungus, ringworm, and Candida. It is frequently used undiluted on small areas with fungus or diluted in a carrier oil to spread over larger or more sensitive areas. It should never be used undiluted on broken skin. Parasites and worms also bow out to the power of clove oil, internally.
Dentists have made use of clove oil as an oral anesthetic and to disinfect root canals. Clove oil can be used to temporarily stop tooth pain by putting 1-2 drops on a cotton swab, then putting it on the tooth and surrounding gum (this is temporary – any tooth pain should be checked out by your dentist). Because of its antiseptic and antibacterial properties, clove oil also makes a great addition to a homemade mouthwash. Apart from keeping the mouth clean, a drop of clove oil placed on the roof of the mouth will also help to relieve a headache.
As a digestive aid, clove oil is known to relax the smooth muscle lining of the digestive tract, relieve diarrhea, gas, bloating, intestinal spasms and nausea, and a few drops of the oil in water will often stop vomiting. It is also effective in impeding food-borne pathogens.
Like cassia oil, clove oil also works to warm the hands and feet by stimulating circulation in the body. A liniment with clove oil can be used to ease muscle and arthritic pain. And in sick seasons, it is miracle worker, fighting germs, viruses and bacteria, and promoting the loosening of phlegm from the respiratory system.
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• Book your stay at the Renaissance Blackstone Chicago now thru Monday, Dec. 2nd, and receive up to 30 percent off, with room rates ranging from $97 to $160 a night for stays thru Feb. 13, 2014.
• From Nov. 27th thru Dec. 2nd, Best Western Rewards members will be able to give back to those in need in a special way. When you redeem loyalty points for retail gift cards on these dates, Best Western will match their point values and donate them to Best Western for a Better World charities like the Red Cross, Kiva, Earth Day Network, and World Vision.
• Don't miss this great sale by Starwood Caribbean Hotels & Resorts now through Dec. 6th, where you can find up to 50 percent off rates at resorts like the W Retreat & Spa in Vieques Island (from $229 a night for travel Nov. 25th thru Apr. 27th, 2014), The Westin St. John Resort & Villas (from $190 a night for travel Nov. 25th thru Apr. 27th), and The Sheraton Puerto Rico Hotel & Casino (from $140 a night for travel dates thru Apr. 26th, 2014). Use promo code DAILYR when booking now thru Dec. 6th.
• Savvy shoppers can score up to $1,000 in air credits and up to $250 to spend on board during Norwegian Cruise Line's sale from Wednesday, Nov. 27th thru Tuesday, Dec. 3rd.
• Save up to 50 percent at more than 100 resorts in the U.S., Canada, and the Caribbean with the "Suite Yourself" Black Friday special by Wyndham Extra Holidays and Shell Vacations Hospitality, a sale that officially starts Wednesday, Nov. 27th, and runs thru midnight on Monday, Dec. 2nd. Packages include 25 percent off ski holidays in Whistler, up to 45 percent off golf getaways in Scottsdale, and 30 percent off romantic getaways to Napa Valley and the U.S. Virgin Islands, among others.
• Gate 1 Travel's fourth annual Black Friday sale gives you $50 off when you spend $500 or more with promo code BLFR50, $100 off when you spend $1,000 or more with promo code BLFR100, $250 off when you spend $2,000 or more with promo code BLFR250, $500 off when you spend $4,000 or more with promo code BLFR500, and $1,000 off when you spend $10,000 or more with promo code BLFR1000. Sale is online only on Nov. 28th, then available by phone (call 1-800-682-3333) between 8 a.m. and 9 p.m. EST on Nov. 29th.
• Liftopia will be having a big weeklong sale—starting Monday, Nov. 25, you can score 75 percent off lift tickets at more than 120 resorts. Visit this website for more than 117,000 deals with lift tickets starting at $7.50 a day.
• You can save money on a stay at Atlantis, Paradise Island, when you book from Black Friday thru Cyber Monday. Deals start at from $99 a night for travel between Aug. 24-Oct. 29 and Nov. 30-Dec. 25, 2014; from $159 a night or travel between Oct. 30-Nov. 24, 2014; from $179 a night for travel between Apr. 24-Jun. 11, 2014; and from $199 a night for travel between Jan. 27-Mar. 5 and Jun. 12-Aug. 23, 2014.
• From Black Friday thru Cyber Monday, the JW Marriott Chicago is offering room rates from $149 per night for stays Dec. 15, 2013, thru Feb. 13, 2014. Use promo code BAR when booking online or call 1-800-228-9290 during the sale.
• California's hip Terranea Resort in L.A. is offering 35 percent discounts on stays thru Feb. 28, 2014. Use promo code BLACKFRIDAY or CYBERMONDAY when booking online from Nov. 29—Dec. 2.
• Enroll in Vail Cascade's email program anytime before Sunday, Dec 1, 2013 to receive a special promo code for use on Cyber Monday—you'll score 30 percent off hotel rates and 20 percent off condo rates on two-night stays now through Apr. 20, 2014.
• Save 40 percent on rates at Paradise Point, San Diego's Island Resort by booking on Black Friday and Cyber Monday for stays now through April 2014. You can also join Paradise Point's email list or follow them on Facebook and Twitter to gain early access to this sale.
• The following specials are available only on Dec. 1st, including 75 percent off at the Westin Playa Bonita in Panama City, Panama, with rates starting at $55 a night; 50 percent off at the CasaMagna Marriott Cancun Resort in Mexico, with rates starting at $105 a night; 35 percent off at Casa Polopo Guatemala, with rates starting at $100 a night; 50 percent off at the St. Kitts Marriott & the Royal Beach Casino, with rates starting at $93 a night; 40 percent off at the San Juan Marriott in Puerto Rico, with rates starting at $149 a night; 50 percent off rates at the Jupiter Beach Resort & Spa in Florida; rates starting at $80 per person per night at the Palazzo Victoria in Verona, Italy (three-night minimum stay required, includes breakfast); and rates starting at $133 per person per night at Il Salviatino in Florence, Italy (three-night minimum stay required, breakfast included); among other deals. Click hereto see the full list of available offers.
• Friendly Planet is having a huge 24-hour Cyber Monday sale and all tours will be discounted anywhere from $100 to $500 per person with several departures offering savings of up to $500. You can view the deals on Friendly Planet Travel's website starting Tuesday, Nov. 26th. Valid on online bookings from 12:01 a.m. EST thru 11:59 p.m. EST on Dec. 2nd.
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• Hotel deLuxe, Hotel Lucia, and the Governor Hotel in Portland, Oregon, are offering their Facebook fans and email subscribers 35 percent off for stays between Dec. 2, 2013 and Mar. 31, 2014. Check each hotel's Facebook page on Cyber Monday at 10 a.m. PST for more details. Please note that the discount will go to the first 100 people to book prepaid, nonrefundable stays at each property, or until Dec. 5, 2013, whichever comes first.
• South Seas Island Resort in Captiva Island, Florida, is offering 25 percent off stays of three or more consecutive nights. Book on Cyber Monday for stays netween now and Mar. 21, 2014. The exclusive link to these offers will be only be available through the hotel's Facebook page or by following @SSIslandResort on Twitter.
• Save up to 40 percent on stays at The Gant in Aspen, Colorado. Book via the website or by phone for stays Dec. 1-4, 8-11, 15-21, 2013, Jan. 12-16, 27-31, Feb. 9-13, 17-20, Mar. 16-20, 23-27, and Apr. 6-10, 2014.
• You'll score extra perks like complimentary room upgrades, breakfast for two, late checkout, and one entry for a chance to win free Sunday Brunch at the Cheyenne Mountain Resort's Mountain View Restaurant, when you book any length stay on Cyber Monday for travel between Dec. 2, 2013 and Mar. 31, 2014. Rates start at $89 a night.
• The Radisson Blu Warwick Hotel Philadelphia is offering room rates from $19.26 on Cyber Monday in honor of the year this historic hotel opened—you guessed it, 1926. Book online starting at 12 a.m. on Monday, Dec. 2nd, as the deal will be available for 24 hours or until it is sold out. Limited to one reservation per person with a maximum of two nights per reservation for stays now through Feb. 28, 2014. Blackout dates may also apply.
• Receive 20 percent off rates at the Amalfi Hotel in Chicago with this promotion that includes shopping coupons to Macy's, Bloomingdale's, the 900 Shops, Water Tower, and several other stores along the Magnificent Mile, plus the option to add on valet parking at the hotel for $28 (a $56 value). Use promo code CYBER when booking online.
• You'll save 25 percent off rates at the Conrad Chicago with the "Luxury of Being Yourself" package. Rates start at $139 a night and you'll get to choose between a complimentary room upgrade or free breakfast for two. Visit this link to book on Cyber Monday.
• The Shore Hotel in Santa Monica, California, is offering 30 percent off rates at its property near Santa Monica Pier and the Third Street Promenade. Book on Monday for rates starting at $196 a night for stays before Feb. 2, 2014.
• The Santa Barbara Beach & Golf Resort, an all-inclusive resort in Curacao, is offering special Cyber Monday rates starting at $223 per person per night, a savings of 45 percent, for dates thru Dec. 24, 2013.
• Score 30 percent on stays at the Red Roof Inn through Feb. 28, 2014, when you book through the website or by phone on Cyber Monday with promo code 616892. Discounts may vary depending on the location and blackout dates may also apply.
• Rail Europe is offering several Cyber Monday specials including $100 off Global and Select Eurail Passes (use promo code CYBER2013 when booking online), extra savings on Rail Europe gift cards—buy a $250 or $500 gift card and you'l earn an extra $50 on the card—and you'll get a free Vatican/Rome City Card when you purchase Trenitalia tickets, a value of more than $130 that gets you fast-track entry into the Vatican Museums, entry into several of Rome's major attractions, and free access to a hop-on hop-off bus tour (enter promo code ROMEFREE while booking online).
• Book a three-night Family Movie Night Package at the CasaMagna Marriott Puerto Vallarta for from $122 a night, and you'll get two connecting rooms, one in-room movie, popcorn and other snacks and drinks while you watch a movie together, and one large pizza. Use promo code 16C when booking online. Valid for travel between Dec. 2, 2013 and Apr. 30, 2014.
• If you're planning a trip to Vermont, the Woodstock Inn & Resort is offering a sale on rooms from $129 for stays Sundays through Thursdays and Bed & Breakfast rates starting at $149 for stays Sundays through Thursdays. Valid for travel Dec. 1, 2013 thru July 1, 2014, not including holidays, select weekends, a $20 resort fee per day and hotel taxes of 9 percent.
• The first 50 lucky customers can snag rooms from $50 a night at Morey Hotels in Wildwood, New Jersey, where 50 rooms will be on sale for $50 in honor of Pan American's 50th Anniversary Celebration. Rates are typically $100-$150 a night, so purchase a $50 gift certificate to use on stays thru June 17, 2014, and take that Jersey Shore family vacation you've been thinking about. Must present gift certificate at check-in; offer is not valid for Seapointe Village and is limited to four people per room.
• You can save up to 60 percent on stays from Dec. 6, 2013 to Jan. 10, 2014, at the Melrose Georgetown Hotel in Washington D.C. with rooms starting at $89 per night. Discount is available on Cyber Monday only. Please note that New Year's Eve is blacked out for this deal.
• Save up to 45 percent on stays from Dec. 6 to Jan. 10, excluding Dec. 31, at the Silversmith Hotel in Chicago with rooms starting at $99 a night. Booking begins Dec. 2 and runs for 24 hours only.
• The Lodge and Spa at Callaway Gardens, located 90 minutes outside of Atlanta in Pine Mountain, Georgia, is offering 50 percent off room rates, with rates starting at $149 a night including breakfast for two and a $25 spa credit.
• One Ocean Resort & Spa in Atlantic Beach, Florida, is offering a 25 percent discount on rooms: rates start at $139 a night for stays Dec. 1-31, and $159 a night from Jan. 1-31, with both deals including valet parking. Book online or by phone at 800/874-6000.
• The Ski Free, Stay Free offer by the Park Hyatt Beaver Creek Resort and Spa lets you enjoy an extra night as well as an extra day on the slopes with the purchase of a four-night stay. Use promo code CYBER when booking this deal. Offer is valid on stays Dec. 3-20, based on double occupancy and includes two adult 4-day lift tickets per stay.
• You can save up to 30 percent at The Reefs Resort & Club in Bermuda for stays March. 11 thru Apr. 17, 2014, up to 20 percent for stays Apr. 18 thru May 22, 2014, and up to 10 percent for stays May 23 thru Sept. 30, 2014. Payment in full is required at the time of booking, and does not include taxes and gratuities. Your deposit is refundable at least 28 days ahead of time, while cancellations within 28 days will suffer a two-night penalty.
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Thanks for the info. I could defeat spoils 25m hm with the dps cloak.
This week on to Thok. I have a couple questions for this boss.
1. How many Bats come out in 25m on poison side? Should I use Shockwave instead of DR?
2. On normal I would tauntswap on 3 stacks. Is it the same on Heroic?


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In many free or low buy-in tournaments some people just goes all-in every time or bet too high for no reason. This is a bit annoying because it scares me a bit, but also it might be an opportunity I guess.
This is very much related to this question: How big an edge can you have on a tournament field ? ROI vs edge question
You have to balance the chance that your hand will win against a random hand with the actual advantage you gain from getting their stack. In general, I'd advise folding with less than a premium pocket pair preflop, and continuing on the flop with TPGK or better.
Depends on how much often this all-in is presenting by for example using hud statistics software, you can measure this and push at least for example 20% of his range counting from top of course.
Then full range is 100%, his all-in range is 60% (i assuming this is top 60%) then you calling 12% (60% of 20%) top hands.
If you want measure this you can do this via Monte Carlo method using for example Equilator from PokerStrategy. You must set ranges to top 60% against your top 12% then you will have probability of winning against him using this tactic.
Generally I find that those people end up bluffing off all of their chips eventually. The people who challenge them tend to be poorer players as well. So while this tends to end with the result of someone at my table having a significant chip advantage I very rarely see that these people outlasted me.
In a tourney the opening rounds are about survival rather than accumulation. So I try to act conservatively and rake in a few small pots enough to keep me near average chip stack. Once the reckless are gone I tend to loosen up a bit.
In these situations you have to push an equity edge vs their range, there's not a lot more your can do. Just construct a range that will beat theirs and get the chips in.


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-Starts to DJ some music on the beach-
Riku: Hell yeah.
-Lights up a 'Spliff' and puts arms in the air and turns it up-
-sits on a cliff- m
*walks into the beach with my swim shorts on*
Finally they gave me a vacation
*runs to the water and jumps in*
-DJ changes the song-
Might as we train since I'm incapable of swimming hehe. *she puts up her hair as her shy expression changes to a strong-willed one. *she whispers an incantation and out of thin air a beautiful red claymore appears in Luna's hand*
*swims in the water at an incredible speed not slowing down*
-sitting on a sand bank- oh my god -facepalm- Wtf Kei
Riku : Nice sword. What do you plan on doing with that? Showcase it? :rofl:
-holds stomach and laughs-
*swinging the sword wildly until she notices the guy swimming so fast and becomes jealous* Ump! Showoff
*stops dead and turns to face her*
I'm not showing off
I just enjoy swimming
*continues swimming very fast*
- jumps into the water-
If by showcase you mean watching my foes hang of the end of it then yes I do intend on showcasing it *smiles and continues to swing it around clumsily*
-lies on the sand- better than grass -puts hands behind head and closes eyes-
-swims around-
*swims over to the pier and I climb up and run all the way to the end and I run very fast and jump off and dive into the water splashing Tasuke then I pop my head out so that he can only see my eyes*
-Makes a few water sharks to chase people-
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-lies on the sand- better than grass -puts hands behind head and closes eyes-
*sticks sword in the sand* hi
-sits up quickly- You b*****d -freezes the part of water kei is in- hmph..
-looks at Zaden- Hi, nice sword
-turns the watershark to steam-
*wants to move so much that the ice cracks and eventually breaks and I jump out of the water and land beside them both*
brrrrr that was cold
you deserved it -lying back on the sand-
-Makes a few more water sharks in the sky, like a water show-
*looks at the girl*
Hey you're the girl who said I was showing off
Hi I'm Keisuke
*puts hands behind my head*
Nice to meet you
-looks at zaden- Yeh, I'm Tasuke ^^
* starts training again* My sword thanks you He is a beautiful sword ain't it *stumbles with the sword in her hand* (sword is twice her own body weight)
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When I reported this one on Saturday, I had to change my opening line to "Garden Editor Mike McGrath with your Mea Culpa of the Day!"
You may recall that last week, I told Jim in Clifton that a series of gouge-like marks about four to five feet off the ground on his holly tree were likely made by young male deer velveting the fuzz off their new antlers.
Well, it turns out that I was wrong, wrong, wrong!
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That will give you a great foundation for overseeding at the correct time of year, which is mid-August through late September. If you have a cool-season lawn, spring seeding is a vermin-feeding waste of money.
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Absolutely - the soil is frozen in February! And it is still much too cold for germination in March. Any seed you spread during those months will just feed and breed mice, rats and voles. And if you wait until proper germination time - when the soil temperature reaches a toasty 70 degrees, measured four inches down - it is too hot for cool-season grasses like fescue to survive for more than a few weeks.
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Any and all feedback is appreciated!
Keep in mind that this guide is written assuming 4.0.6 is live, so it may not be entirely correct for the next week or two until the patch is released.
Yet Another Catalysm Arms Warrior Guide
Last Updated: December 12, 2011 (4.3) Correctness and freshness not guaranteed past this date
My name is shiz98, and this is a guide. It covers:
There are also appendices for relatively useless things:
- Talents
- Glyphs
- Rotation
- Stats/Gearing
- Questions
and that's it.
- Stance Dancing for Fun and Profit
Note: To be brief, Arms theorycrafting tends to be underdeveloped. As such, you should make a point of checking around every couple months to see if the community has figured out any improvements to the spec. Note that this guide may not be accurately updated in the future to reflect these refinements, as I'm just not able to predict what kind of time I'll be able to commit to it.
The Spec
The image below is of the Warrior talent trees (god help you if you didn't recognize them). In fact, it's actually an image of my DPS spec. You'll notice that, unusually, there are some blue boxes in there too (god help you if you didn't see them). Here's the deal: in this modern era, we really don't have any bad talents in the tree, which gives us a lot of choice. I'll be talking about those choices below, but the blue talents are not choices, and you should always max them out in any spec you make.
Optional Talents
Field Dressing Pretty good. Not overwhelmingly good, but your healers will like it.
Blitz A nice rage boost to your charge, and the stun could be good or bad depending on how you like to PvP/PvE
Tactical Mastery If you stance dance, or PvP at all, this ability is incredible. Also very useful for letting you use Intervene.
Second Wind Almost useless in PvE
Drums of War You may want to consider picking this up if you're a main interrupter a lot. You'll have 10 rage lying around about 90% of the time even while maintaining your regular rotation, but this gives some peace of mind for that last 10%.
Sweeping Strikes Combined with the glyph, this ability is fantastic for AoEing. Very much worth the one point, in my opinion.
Improved Hamstring For PvE? No thanks.
Throwdown Good as an emergency interrupt on weaker mobs. Also handy in 5-mans. If you're looking for maximum raid utility, skip it.
Blood Craze Ehhh, no.
Executioner Overall a small DPS increase, but noticable during Execute range. Worth taking if you find yourself with extra talent points. (See Page 4 for discussion)
Booming Voice Good if you're struggling with rage, but you'll do better if you solve that by gearing.
Rude Interruption On fights with interrupts, a 5% damage increase. Fantastic.
Piercing Howl There aren't too many applications for this in 4.3 raiding, but you may want it for the occasional 5 man or solo play.
Blood and Thunder Glorious for AoE.
The Glyphs
Who loves the illusion of choice? I know I do:
Glyph of Mortal Strike
Glyph of Overpower
Glyph of Slam
You do have a choice here, and what you choose will actually impact your playstyle a bit.
Glyph of Cleaving Good for AoEing
Glyph of Colossus Smash Do you look like a (Sunder) bitch? If so, this is the glyph for you! New in 4.3: applies sunder instead of just refreshing it, which is awesome.
Glyph of Heroic Throw Not really useful now that Colossus Smash applies sunder
Glyph of Long Charge Somewhat useful if you're running around a lot
Glyph of Piercing Howl Kinda useful if you have Piercing Howl
Glyph of Rapid Charge I think we can do better...
Glyph of Sweeping Strikes Like this glyph. I love it, I really do.
Nobody really cares what you put here, and neither do I. Here are some popular choices:
Glyph of Battle
Glyph of Berserker Rage Can be useful for helping with rage generation if used properly.
Glyph of Furious Sundering
Glyph of Intimidating Shout aka "AoE CC for Pansies"
The Rotation
I'm going to do something a little different here, and forego the usual priority queue format. Instead, we're going to talk about threads. You're going to want to weave these threads together when you do your DPS don't just blindly follow the priorites. Instead you should be actively thinking about your rotation and planning ahead. It's important for each one of these threads to happen perfectly, and it's your job to make sure that happens.
The first thread in your rotation is Rend. This is very simple: maintain Rend. Since 4.1 this is significantly easier, since Mortal Strike does all the hard work for you. If all hell breaks loose and it looks like Rend is going to fall before you can MS again, let it. It's less of a DPS loss to reapply than to refresh.
The second thread is Mortal Strike; you want to hit this as soon as it comes off CD, but not at the expense of Rend.
Third, we have Overpower. Unlike Rend and Mortal Strike, you don't need to worry about firing OP off as soon as possible; you've actually got a 6s window in which to use it. This lets you maximize both your MS damage and your OP damage, because any time using OP would conflict with MS (or Rend for that matter), you can afford to hold back a couple seconds before using the TfB proc.
The filler in between the ability usage here is Slam. Any time you're not using one of the above mentioned abilities, you should be slamming away.
The final piece of the puzzle here is Colossus Smash. The damage portion of this ability sucks it's worse than Slam, and more expensive. Its real value is the 6s of zero armor it provides you. As such, you're going to want to use it when you can make maximum usage of it: right before Mortal Strike. Ideally your CS usage timing should be such that you can do this:
0s CS
1.5s MS
3s OP
4s Slam
5.5s OP/Slam
You should sit on any Sudden Death proc until you're able to set up that kind of ability schedule. Most importantly (so even if you screw up and hit CS when you're not supposed to), don't overlap CS. Yeah, you might "waste" a Sudden Death proc. That's life.
You shouldn't use this on one mob. Two or more, go for it. On any fight with an AoE phase, save it for that.
You've got Deadly Calm, which you should combine with your trinkets and ideally a CS. I'd recommend popping your trinkets, CSing, bringing your rage down to 0 (via copious Heroic Strike usage), and then hitting Deadly Calm and going hog wild. Once DC wears off, pop Recklessness to make the most use of that 100 rage you've built up.
When DC is active you should be spamming Slam and Heroic Strike like a champion just make sure you take note of when DC wears off so you don't kill off your Rage entirely.
When should I use Shattering Throw?
During Heroism, you selfish jerk. On long enough fights you may be able to get two of these off, so play it by ear. If you're not using it during heroism you should at the very least make sure you pop a CD to get the best usage out of it. You should also be telling your raid when it's up, to give other physical dps a chance to pop their CD's.
Execute Range
Mortal Strike goes way down on your priority list. In fact, you should really only use it to maintain Rend/Lambs to the Slaughter. You still want to keep using Overpower, but drop Slam from your rotation entirely. Instead, you're going to be spending all your hard-earned rage on 30 Rage Executes. Emphasis on the 30 Rage. If you have less than 30 rage? Don't Execute. The ability does the most damage per rage at 30.
The Stats
The basic rundown:
But don't just follow that blindly! Instead, you should be aware of the...
- Hit to cap (8% on character sheet)
- Strength
- Crit
- Mastery
- Expertise (cap is 26 Exp on character sheet)
- Haste
First off, you're probably noticing that hit has a strangely high priority, since we no longer have to worry about missing interrupts. See, we use expertise as a rage generating stat (in place of the eternally awful haste). As it turns out, if you cap your hit you're generating pretty much all the rage you need (combine that with a windfury buff and you're almost certainly good in a raid situation) this is why Hit is on the top. Expertise used to be up there too, but it turns out that it doesn't affect your rage generation, which makes it a more mediocre stat when you factor in Overpower being usable on dodges. You don't want to ignore it completely, but there's no real need to cap it.
Next up we have Strength, with is basically your go-to stat for everything. It's hard to actively shoot for Strength since it just kind of shows up on gear, but you should fill all red sockets with it, and get Strength trinkets if possible.
From there we really only have three stats to choose from: Mastery, Crit, and Haste. Haste is really bad, and you should strive to have none of it. Mastery and Crit and actually pretty even in terms of DPS gain. At lower levels of gear, Crit is a little bit better than Mastery, but I'd guess it's the other way around after this raiding tier. All in all, you should strive to have a good balance of both Crit and Mastery; don't just pick up one and ignore the other.
So, what should I look for in gear?
A very good question.
Are you not hit capped? Look for gear with hit and crit/mastery/expertise
Are you not expertise capped? Look for gear with crit/mastery/expertise
Are you hit and expertise capped? Look for gear with crit and mastery
What about gems?
Pretty much the same as the above:
If it's red, put an STR gem in it.
If it's yellow, use STR unless you want the socket bonus, or you're trying to get a meta bonus.
If it's blue, use Hit if you're not hitcapped, otherwise an STR or Stam/STR gem (depending on whether you need a socket bonus)
And reforging?
Generally speaking, reforge intelligently using the stat priorities above. It's not worth reforging Crit or Mastery to the other, but you should always reforge Haste into something better (though ideally none of your gear should have haste).
If you're low on expertise, you should get there via reforging rather than gemming, as it allows you to put those oh-so-good STR gems in your red sockets.
I read something somewhere that contradicts something in this guide. Who's right?
If it's from anywhere other than Elitist Jerks, it's probably wrong (seriously, Arms is really misunderstood in most places). I'd trust EJ over this guide, but don't go crazy.
Ok but why?
In all honesty, because people tend to approach writing these guides without a whole lot of rigor behind the gearing/rotation suggestions they make. I've made a concerted effort to back up anything I suggest here with some actual theorycrafting, so I'm pretty confident in what I suggest. Yes, there will be something in this guide that will be proven wrong down the line; that's a guarantee. But as a whole, I believe this guide to be the most accurate guide to Arms at the time of writing. Call me arrogant
Where else should I go to stay up-to-date on Arms, or if I have questions?
Right here on the Tankspot DPS forum is a good place to go. There are a lot of warriors here who have much more experience than I, and who know their class inside and out.
The only other place that I'd recommend is Elitist Jerks, and even then I'd only recommend it to those who are really, really serious about their class, and who aren't put off by maths and heavy analysis. It's not a good place to ask questions, but there are some very smart people there posting in the warrior threads, and you're guaranteed to find some good information over the course of the expansion if you can stomach the superthread approach they take.
Appendix A Stance Dancing for Fun and Profit
Fact: Berserker Stance makes you do 5% more damage than Battle Stance. As Arms, you can leverage that fact you have greatly improved stance dancing thanks to Tactical Mastery to spend some time in Berserker Stance, which will net you a DPS increase.
First, the caveat: this is a fairly small DPS increase (in practice, something like 3-4%), so if the added complexity is going to make you mess up your rotation or do a poor job of watching fight mechanics, it's not worth it.
If you're game, all you really need to do is start stance dancing around your OP usage. In fact, what you really want to be doing is sitting in Berserker Stance by default, and dancing to Battle Stance only to use OP. This will increase your white damage and Strikes of Opportunity damage to as much as possible.
Here's a sample timeline:
Practice, practice, practice. Training dummies are your friend. If you can get really good with timing your TfB procs, you should get pretty close to the ideal 5% DPS bonus.Code:0.0s Rend (TfB Proc) Stance Dance to Berserker 1.5s CS 3.0s MS Stance Dance to Battle 4.5s OP Stance Dance to Berserker 6.0s Slam (TfB Proc) 7.5s MS Stance Dance to Battle 9.0s OP Stance Dance to Berserker 10.5s Slam 12.0s MS (TfB Proc)
Aside: This got a whole lot easier in 4.1.
Update History
Jan 29, 2011: Fixed up gemming, and added a bit of reforging info (thanks to klausi for corrections!)
Feb 9, 2011: Changed the wording for some glyphs/talents (based on others' posts in this thread)
Jun 22, 2011: Updated for 4.2 Mostly rotation/gearing
Dec 12, 2011: Updated for 4.3 A few tweaks/typo fixes, and updated Glyph of Colossus Smash info
This is almost certainly the last update for the expansion.
The End
Last edited by shiz98; 12-12-2011 at 05:34 PM.
Any and all feedback is appreciated!
Keep in mind that this guide is written assuming 4.0.6 is live, so it may not be entirely correct for the next week or two until the patch is released.
Well, you could have said the 4.0.6. bit earlier. You confused me. :P
Care to clarify the Executioner part? Everyone says something different, but being that you are talking about the 4.0.6., maybe you know something interesting from the PTRs.
Once you hit Execute Range as Arms, you actually don't want to use Execute at all. Its damage is subpar right now, and when those new Arms changes go live (specifically Lambs to the Slaughter), you're going to be way better off ignoring it. This all makes Executioner a pretty weak talent. Actually, I suppose "useless" wouldn't be too strong a word.
Regarding the 4.0.6 thing... yeahhh, sorry about that. I figure the patch goes live Tuesday, and all this stuff should still be mostly relevant right now, so I didn't worry too much about being careful with the timing.
what is this blue gemming strat ? - with spell pen ??? - i´ve never seen this before.
Expertise to cap (14 Exp on character sheet)
^ 14? What about 26? The talent in arms reducing dodge chance is long gone.
combine that with a windfury buff and you're almost certainly good in a raid situation
^ windfury is only 10% haste, that's it. Doesn't act like mastery in ages.
If it's red and you're not expertise capped, put an Exp. gem in it
^ why not reforge for it and hitcap while using strength (major stat) everywhere like all other dps classes do?
If it's yellow and you're not hitcapped, put a Hit gem in it
^ hit changed to blue with cata, mastery and crit remain yellow
If it's blue, Spell Penetration
^ c&p?
Last edited by klausi; 01-29-2011 at 05:12 AM.
This guide is wrong on so many levels I don't know where to start.
Durr, math fail.14? What about 26? The talent in arms reducing dodge chance is long gone.
Even 10% haste is a pretty significant (10% actually :P) buff to your rage generation, and should be more than enough to bump you over the rage minimum.windfury is only 10% haste, that's it. Doesn't act like mastery in ages.
Right you are! Sometimes, I write on autopilot. Heh, I've even gemmed for hit this expansion...hit changed to blue with cata, mastery and crit remain yellow
Just a little joke, is all . I tried to pick something that would be blatantly wrong so as not to confuse people. You should fill blue slots with STR if you don't need the socket bonus, or Stam/STR if you do.what is this blue gemming strat ? - with spell pen ??? - i´ve never seen this before.
This... this is a good idea.why not reforge for it and hitcap while using strength (major stat) everywhere like all other dps classes do?
Seriously, please post any corrections or issues you have with the guide (or PM me if you prefer) so that I can improve it.This guide is wrong on so many levels I don't know where to start.
If it's blue, use Hit if you're not hitcapped, otherwise an STR or Stam/STR gem (depending on whether you need a socket bonus)
^ str/hit is purple, counts for both red and blue That's the reason why they changed it so you don't have to use x/stamina in your blue sockets while playing dps any longer.
For yellow you can and should use either str/crit or str/mastery if the socket bonus is no +haste. Might change with 4.0.6 and hasted slam.
Glyph of Berserker Rage is actually quite nice because it's 5 rage off gcd every 30s and can help you when messed up your ragepool. There are no fearing bosses around so why saving or worring about it?
And you didn't say a word about incite. With your advice to not us execute during sub 20% phase, getting more than cruelty from fury gives you either blood craze or easier rage management via battle trance. But having 15% more HS crits + guaranteed hs crit follow up looks way more appealing than a situational aoe slow that other classes can provide with their regular speccs, too. But i really don't get why you wouldn't want to execute at all (reread your sudden death description!) making the executioner talent very appealing to me.
Last edited by klausi; 01-30-2011 at 12:44 PM.
Haha, thanks klausi. I haven't been keeping up with the gem changes as well as I should have been, as you've noticed :P.
I stopped using it after 4.0, as for 5-mans and PvP I was just hitting it every 30s on autopilot and it screwed me over. In my experience it's not really that useful from a rage perspective, and I've found the habit just screwed me over all too often. At the end of the day though, I'm not really recommending anyone not take it; just my own experience with the glyph. Maybe I should clean up that wording...Glyph of Berserker Rage is actually quite nice because it's 5 rage off gcd every 30s and can help you when messed up your ragepool. There are no fearing bosses around so why saving or worring about it?
The idea is to really cut back heavily on the HS usage, as it has a weak damage/rage ratio, especially in patch 4.0.6 (relative to the Lambs changes). Without any haste, you really won't have much HS usage at all, and haste is bad enough that gearing it for extra HS isn't worth it. This makes incite fairly weak.But having 15% more HS crits + guaranteed hs crit follow up looks way more appealing than a situational aoe slow that other classes can provide with their regular speccs, too.
The damage execute does is just super lame. You've got much more powerful modifiers on Slam, Overpower, Rend, and even Mortal Strike, even moreso when that 30% Lambs to the Slaughter buff goes live (as the difference now gets increased by 30%). Given that you should have enough rage to maintain your normal rotation and fill every GCD, Execute doesn't even look that attractive despite its situationally superior rage:damage ratio.But i really don't get why you wouldn't want to execute at all (reread your sudden death description!) making the executioner talent very appealing to me.
Of course, Executioner may still be worthwhile because you can just toss out an execute every once in a while to maintain the stacks. Problem is, that 25% haste bonus is going to have a tiny direct effect on your DPS, and the bonus rage is just going to go into HS. This nets out to a heroic strike roughly every 12 seconds, so maybe 700 dps, tops? That's not fantastic when you consider that you're losing DPS by using Execute in your rotation. So maybe a couple hundred DPS if used perfectly, which isn't much to write home about.
That said, I actually plan on taking a closer look at execute range when I get the chance... feels like the interaction between Execute and Heroic Strike may be worth modifying the rotation/spec a bit for.
The caveat for speccing around Execute is that you might be dropping DPS for 80% if the fight in favor of doing more the last 20%. This may be beneficial on some fights, harmful on the others, and may just plain be a DPS loss overall.
glyph of HT not good? it's great on fights with no adds - saves you 1 GCD to start the fight.
rude interruption - most of the time, 1 point = 2 points
drums has nothing to do with being a main interrupter - if the fight has interrupts, the points are a dps increase. 10 rage is 10 rage.
zerker rage is the ONLY mandatory minor glyph - use it anytime you get rage starved, not on cooldown, like you were trying to do.
execute is a bad use of a global for arms. it hits like crap and uses 30 rage, doesn't apply lambs, and spamming it will leave you without the rage to even keep cs, rend, ms, and op going. you can use it if you have 2/2 executioner to stack the buff and replace a slam when you need to keep the buff stacked, but to say execute is a great use of a global is wrong.
the only time ht glyph is good is if you are the only one that can apply the debuff, which if that's true you will be the only one benefiting from it. if you don't have a prot warrior in your raid, no druids of any kind, no rogues, or any hunters, then you can just use sunder and not reset your swing timer by using ht.
there are no other places to pull points from to pick up 2/2 drums so idk where you are getting points from for that.
|Ex Tank|
Execute numbers, assuming a 552 DPS weapon at 3.6s speed, 10k AP and 20% crit.
Modifiers assuming additive stacking, since I don't know offhand. It's more conservative, so it should favor Execute
Execute 130%
Slam 165%
Crit Bonuses
Slam 5%
Incite is a 20% bonus to crit damage to MS, Slam, and OP
Weapon damage = 4344
Deep Wounds damage = 2844
[b]Base Damage[b] formulas slightly modified for simplicity's sake
Execute10 = 10 + AP * 0.437 = 4380
Execute30 = 10 + AP * 1.32 = 13210
Slam = 1.74 * WD + 748 = 8307
Damage w/ Modifiers
Execute10 = 5694
Execute30 = 17173
Slam = 13707
Damage w/ Crit Bonus
Execute10= 5694
Execute30 = 17173
Slam = 14672
Damage w/ Incite Bonus
Execute10 = 5694
Execute30 = 17173
Slam = 14255
In a 6s cycle you've got 1 OP, 2 MS, and 1 Slam for a resulting rage cost of ~65 (factoring rough slam delay cost). In the same cycle you could burn that rage on two Execute30's and one OP:
Execute damage:
17173 * 2 + 15086 = 49,432
Normal damage:
12761 * 2 + 15086 + 14255 = 54,863
That's a difference of 905 dps. I'll admit, it's actually closer than I originally thought. Keep in mind that this is pretty much the ideal Execute usage, and you'll probably never see that usage in the real world.
Last edited by shiz98; 01-31-2011 at 01:05 PM. Reason: Formatting
to say we shouldn't glyph it because "it makes you use zerker rage on fights when you shouldn't" makes little sense.
and it's not 30 rage, it's minimum 10, maximum 30, but always leaves you with 10 after (the damage/rage is linear). you can keep up your rotation, IF you keep up the executioner buff, which the OP called "honestly, not that great". 25% haste is equivalent to 3203 haste rating that is up constantly for 20% of the fight, for TWO talent points - it seems great to me.
there is some good information here so don't take this the wrong way, but as far as a definitive arms guide i don't think this is good enough for a sticky. if you're going to author "the most accurate guide to Arms", you're going to need to back up your ideas with logs. if your way is really the way to go, it should be easy to see the results. even something as simple as argaloth would be fine.
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I'll just leave it stickied for now so it's available for people to discuss it more. I'll admit i didn't read through it entirely before sticking it, but shiz is someone I've come to count on for good info, and he'll obviously fix any discrepencies that you guys find.
Id have to say i agree with malkar on the glyph of berserker rage. 5 rage is 5 rage. regardless of when you use it. it gives a little bit of rage.
It would be good practice to monitor your usage of it so you dont run into cases where you cant get out of a fear.
Shiz, i dont see the haste bonus added into your math for execute usage. Also, are you adding in the benefits with deadly calm uptime? Execute damage weaved in at 0 rage cost.. im sure execute hits harder than something.
And on the glyph of heroic throw. With devastate being so low on the prot warriors threat rotation. being able to add a stack at the start of the fight, and refresh it here or there in the fight, it doesnt seem like that bad of an idea to pick this up. The less the prot warrior has to trade a better ability for devastate in their rotation, the more threat they can do. I dont see this as a big deal.. but it does help. this allso assumes your using a prot warrior, if your not.. this glyph is a no brianer
execute bypasses deadly calm, it costs rage regardless.
Hm. I'd written out a long post addressing the above posts, but I don't really want to start posting more long, errr, posts (have I said posts enough?). Now, normally I'd make a concerted effort to be fair and cordial, and to approach writing from a position of humility as much as possible. However, I'm going to sacrifice all that for brevity. Sorry if this offends anyone...
First, I want to give us some context here: the things we're discussing as inaccurate in this guide are:
- A minor glyph
- A major glyph
- Execute range and the resulting talenting
And of course the gemming section, which I hastily threw together out of memory, which turned to be horribly bad.
What no one's debated thusfar are:
- Stat priorities
- Non-execute rotation
- 95% of the talents
Which are the most important parts of the guide. Amortized, the DPS difference we're talking about is something in the low hundreds (and that's assuming I'm proven wrong, of which I'm not yet convinced). That hardly invalidates the whole guide.
This isn't always the case. For example, those of you arguing that Glyph of Berserker Rage is mandatory would be hard-pressed to collect enough data to show it, regardless of the strength of your argument.if your way is really the way to go, it should be easy to see the results
Returning to the Execute debate...
No, it's 5.5 to 5.5. If you assume the rage is constant, and that you're using Execute optimally, you're rage starved for one GCD using Execute.btw, you've compared a 5.5s cycle with a 4.0s cycle - not exactly apples to apples.
White damage is small portion of your DPS, so getting a 25% buff to that isn't very wonderful. The 25% bonus rage may be useful, depending on how you dump it (whether via HS, or by giving yourself more leeway for Execute use). I haven't done the math on it, and neither have you, so I think assuming it's awesome is jumping to a large conclusion when you consider that you're missing out on two talents that are useful for 100% of the fight rather than 20%. Any DPS gain Execute provides has to be judged in light of the full-fight damage gain from any other talents.25% haste is equivalent to 3203 haste rating that is up constantly for 20% of the fight, for TWO talent points - it seems great to me.


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Rin couldn't have died during timeskip because in Part 1 after Naruto and Sasuke's first fight on the roof of that building, Kakashi went to havea chat with Sasuke and told him that seeking revenge would bring nothing, and then Sasuke said "You don't understand what it's like to lose your loved ones!" or something along those lines and Kakashi said "Actually... ALL my loved ones are dead." This means that Rin was dead by then.
Also, in Part 1, Kakashi tends to go to a certain grave in that garden area a lot. I think it might have been mentioned that it was Obito but wasn't Obito's grave at the bridge instead. If so, it could be that the grave he was visiting was actually Rin's.
I think rin died before naruto became a ninja. But i do have to say this. Who said kakashi gained MS during the time skip. I just feel he trained his MS to learn how to use kamui. Also for thos people saying they dont understand how kakashi can increase the amount of time he uses kamui. Remember when he first showed he can do kamui. He expended a lot of energy. He was still a noob at using it. But because of that fight and the pein arc. He learned how to focus it more. So he didnt go using an excess amount. Think of it like this. If ur right handed. U can easily write ur name on a piece of paper. U trained urself to be able to spell with minimal effort. Now try with ur left. U wil exert more energy and not get the same results. Kakashi after using the tech so many times can use it more exerting less chakra because he refined his ability to use kamui
Awesome chapter has anyone got the feeling that naruto will have to fight madara? And don't forget that minato was so scared of the masked man's plan and had to seal kurama into naruto because he sensed the dark future he was planning and if tobi was obito, the 4th would have noticed or sensed it was him after all he was obito's teacher. :scorps: next chapter plssss. Alhaji Kishimoto
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I've been reading in this forum for quite some time now, and i just needed to share with you that i'am so excited about todays manga that my heart is pounding, my stomach is rumbling and i just can not wait to see who tobi actually is! SO EXCITED!!! Like before exams, you know? Anyone feels the same here? :P Sort of a trick question
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Tobi is Izuna.
I have a feeling that kakashi is going to die with tobi
Originally Posted by mohite
I have a feeling that kakashi is going to die with tobi
Perhaps but i don't think so because Kakashi is the only one that can continue the Naruto Manga about Minato and about his own Saga. It has too much potential for Kishi to just throw him away like this. Maybe through him Kishi will reveal even a more powerful enemy ")" ... Who can know..
Now who's really the man behind the Orange mask....
Obito or Izuna... cant wait anymore
In one of the pictures he's like Obito and i just don't know what to say if he is... i feel like i've been trolled for months and gonna quit reading, i'm sorry....
that chapter was the best cliff hanger i have read in a long time im just bursting to see tobis face dont realy care whom it is as long as it has a good explanation !
Why are people so against tobi being obito,,i wouldnt be suprised if he isnt and if he is either,,,kishi is trolling us right from the beginning.....
A.Tobi was made look stoopid..diedra kicking his butt,some funny moments
B.He kept on saving he wants to join akutsuki memeber to diedra,,,he was everyone daddy actullay :P
C.He keeps on saying im madara,,kishi made kabuto revive madara....
D.When we thought it was obito ,kishi made us show the other eye during konan fight for izanagi move,we all got confused...
E.Than we saw after danzo defeat kakashi tries to kamui at sasuke and tobi,but tobi says that kinda jutsu wont work on him and negates it.....see this was kishiz plan from the start,,but this wasnt shown in detail,,,see episode after danzoz defeat,,
F.than when we are convinced that he isnt obito ,,they do the whole kamui crap again,,and kakashi realizes...
G.Later on,tobi himself mentions that he got the eye from kannabi bridge
H.he mentions that kakashi is a loudmouth...
SEE kishi is trolling us fromt the start,,,,,so tobi is..............................kishi himself....
If it's Obito Kishi is a worse troll than anyone on narutobase
Originally Posted by KANGOLNY
^^^ Its possible....If Orochimaru can switch bodies, why can't Tobi!!!
Oro doesn't switch bodies. He uses impure world resurrection. But his is imperfect so he has to switch body's every once and a while
^sorry when he does it to himself its called impure world reincarnation
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