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Mandela memo
How it started?
On March 27, 2001, Thomas Friedman wrote a column in the style of a 'mock memo' entitled Bush's First Memo. In this 'mock memo' Thomas Friedman writes in the name of U.S. President George W. Bush a memo to Palestinian President Yasir Arafat.
This 'mock memo' — Thomas Friedman had published a number of them in the New York Times, for example, a 'mock memo' he wished Secretary of State Colin Powell would have sent to President George W. Bush was published on February 20, 2001 — triggered me to write to the New York Times' Readers Opinions in the the 'mock memo' style that Friedman himself liked to use and offered Nelson Mandela responding to Friedman's Bush's First Memo to Arafat.
Since Thomas Friedman tells his readers that Palestinians should forget about 1948 and forget about returning to their homes, I wanted to show that current policies against Palestinians resemble an apartheid-like situation. Since Nelson Mandela has become the personification of the struggle against apartheid, I thought a 'mock memo' including Mandela was the logical thing to do. I could also have taken Steven Biko who has said that "the most potential weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed" or Oliver Tambo or others anti-apartheid activists.
The confusion
On 27 March 2001, after reading Friedman's 'mock memo' I wrote a letter entitled Mandela's first memo to Thomas Friedman to the op-ed editor of The New York Times and I posted the memo on the Thomas Friedman Discussion Board of the New York Times, hoping that Thomas Friedman would read it and that the New York Times would publish it. However, after two days, I came to the conclusion that the New York Times would not dare publishing this piece and I sent it on March 30, 2001 to Media Monitors, "a Platform for Serious Media Contributors", an online daily.
Soon, however, I found the 'mock memo' I wrote and which clearly indicated that I wrote it, on various listservers and websites but without the byline mentioning that it was in fact written by me.
The main purpose of the Mandela-memo was to respond in a satirical way to Thomas Friedman using the exact same style and even phrases he uses in his columns. Obviously, the 'mock memo' had been forwarded to several e-mail lists containing the memo, which originally included the title "Mandela's First Memo to Thomas Friedman" and a byline "by Arjan El Fassed", but eventually was forwarded without my name and sometimes without title.
I posted the 'mock memo' myself on 30 March on an mailinglist of Al-Awda. Despite this, I've seen it several times being posted on the same list, something that gives you an idea of the lack of attention many people give to material they forward. In various posts I read, the subject title was changed for example, "Mandela supports…", "must read", etc. Perhaps it was wishful thinking. If Nelson Mandela would seriously have written to the New York Times, wouldn't the New York Times just publish it? Moreover, I believe Nelson Mandela has better things to do then responding to columns written by Thomas Friedman.
How things got worse
On April 24, 2001, Akiva Eldar, chief political columnist and editorial writer for the Israeli national daily Ha'aretz wrote in his Strong Quote from Mandela that the Palestinian daily Al Quds published a letter that Nelson Mandela sent to New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, in response to a March 27 Frideman column, dubbed "Memo to President Bush."
Immediately, I wrote a letter to Ha'aretz explaining what happened. Most probably, someone translated the memo (without byline) into Arabic and which was taken up by the Palestinian daily and printed on April 16, 2001, however, without verifying the source. The editor of Al Quds, Marwan Abu Zalaf, said that he had no idea it was a fake, and that one of his reporters found it on the Internet.
On Friday, April 18, the Lebanese daily As-Safir re-published the 'mock memo' in Arabic based on the article as printed by the Palestinian daily Al-Quds. On Monday, April 21, The Daily Star had an op-ed entitled "Sharon: Why does the world ignore me?" and at the top of the 'memo', they had the following boxed introduction:
"New York Times columnist Thomas L. Friedman has recently popularized the idea of writing opinion pieces framed as "memos" from world leaders to various recipients, prompting various other writers to mimic the practice.
For the byline, at the bottom, the Star wrote in italics: Arjan El Fassed wrote this commentary for MediaMonitors, a website dedicated to providing a platform for all political opinions (NB. The Daily Star's archive is currently not working).
The Norwegian newspaper Dagsavisen published a commentary in which it quoted The Jerusalem Times which published the 'mock memo' on April 6, 2001, again without source, byline, or author, in its publication.
On April 24, 2001, someone wrote to Akiva Eldar the following:
——- Original Message ——-
From: ******* <********@yahoo.com>
To: firstname.lastname@example.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:26 PM
Subject: Strong quote from Mandela
For the record, I have received the original messages containing each of Arjan El Fassed's "memos," sent directly from him (via an e-group). Mr. El Fassed's byline is clearly present on each article, the articles come from his own e-mail address, and the more recent ones contain an explicit warning against forwarding the article without the byline. There is no possible basis for arguing that Mr. El Fassed intends for people to believe the memos were written by anyone other than himself.
It is hard to imagine that anyone would accuse Tom Friedman of impersonating a world leader if one of his "memos" was forwarded, sans byline, and then re-printed in another newspaper (though the newspaper re-printing the story would be a legitimate target for criticism).
To claim that Mr. El Fassed "tends to sign various missives he sends out to the world signed with the names of famous people" is, if not an intentional lie, than an inadvertent gross misstatement of fact. Whether you like Mr. El Fassed's writing or not, you have a responsibility to correct what you wrote.
The next day, Akiva Eldar, replied:
—- haaretz firstname.lastname@example.com wrote:
From: "haaretz"
To: "*******" <*******@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Strong quote from Mandela
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 09:15:42 +0200
Mr El Fassed has give me a full account of his position and it will be reported in my next column.
However, instead of being reported in his next column, Ha'aretz published my own response instead.
Worse, however, Toronto Star columnist, Michele Landsberg wrote on May 20, 2001, Forged letter slights dignity of Nelson Mandela, in which she claimed that she checked with Mandela's office in South Africa and that she heard from his assistant:
"You enquired about the infamous article that has been doing the rounds across the globe. We've received numerous enquiries… . Mr. Mandela did not write the article/letter, and this matter has been referred to his lawyers for further action."
Nigel Parry responded to that column by writing a letter to the Toronto Star editor:
"Regarding Michele Landsberg's column, "Forged letter slights dignity of Nelson Mandela", there was no "rat". Someone obviously forwarded her the memo without its byline and she failed to seek out its source.
The memo was a clearly signed spoof that was first published on the Media Monitors Network.
Landsberg's assertion that the letter was a "forgery" is as baseless as her claim that the political philosophy of Zionism — which directly resulted in the establishment of an Israeli state on the ruins of 415 Palestinian villages ethnically cleansed of nearly one million Arabs, with a legal system that still discriminates between "Jewish" and "Non Jewish" citizens in areas such as property ownership — is somehow not racist.
The Toronto Star chose not to publish his letter.
On May 26, 2001, the Lebanese newspaper an-Nahar published a clarification in Arabic which is similar to my own response in Ha'aretz.
Even now, some emails are still circulating with the 'mock memo'. For example, the Palestinian Council for Justice and Peace circulated the 'mock memo' and sent a message to their own list on 14 February 2002, saying that
"We sent you a letter, which was supposedly written by Nelson Mandela and addressed to Thomas Friedman. As we received it by email from a friend who was excited about a good answer to Friedman's latest article in the New York Times, we misread the address, and thought it was in fact written in the New York Times. Thanks to the queries of some of you, we went to the source, and now we know for certain that Mandela did not write the article. It is still a good response, but we have no clue so far as to the author."
What other readers said
In a message posted on April 13, 2002 on a listserver called Ecunews, Rick Mitchell wrote that the 'mock memo':
"reinforces [my] claim that Israel is maintaining a system of Apartheid by keeping Palestinians in captivity (the current occupation dates back to June, 1967) and subject to second-class status. One need not agree with all of his statements, but it is illuminating to recognize that we see and hear very little of this argument in the U.S., as the policy of our government and of the mainstream media has been consistently pro-Israeli. Politics is, of course, politics, but the important point to consider is El Fassed's (and others') contention that Zionism is inherently racist and un-democratic, resulting quite logically in an apartheid system of discrimination. It is also the policy of the U.S. government."
What's interesting is that some even argued, "but there is also a sense in which the 'true' or original author does not matter — and that sense is related to the question, 'Is it true?'"
Others wrote on various lists, "If this is authentic, it is truly a moral bombshell in the present level of discussion…" and "[It may have been written] as a statement about what perhaps Nelson Mandela would say to someone such as journalist Thomas Friedman."
"For those of you who are concerned about the authenticity of the Mandela memo, I have researched the matter with the help of others. Apparently Thomas Friedman often writes as though he were someone else and this piece is written with this understanding. I do not question the content because from my own personal experience, I can attest to an apartheid situation."
Someone else posted this question:
"How could I find an email for Nelson Mandela to alert him to the efforts of us in the Jewish world who oppose Israel's current treatment of Palestinians - and to discuss with him strategies for having an impact?"
"My husband (among other people) forwarded the 'Nelson Mandela memo' to me. I checked up on it through my sources in Palestine and found that it was not written by Nelson Mandela but by someone else using the style of Friedman's articles. The name of the person is in some email in my file but the name doesn't really matter. Someone was trying to do good but left the rest of us with egg on our faces. You may want to pass this information on to those from whom you got it and to those to whom you sent it."
Another reader made this observation, "The existential reality of injustice witnessed first-hand…is a far more powerful teaching tool than injustice heard or read about."
What Nelson Mandela indeed has said
"It is completely wrong that the United States must be the mediator in this conflict. Everybody knows the United States is a friend of Israel."
"As far as we are concerned what is being done to the Palestinians is a matter of grave concern. We are the friends of Yasser Arafat. We are the friends of the Palestinians. We support their struggle" (Reuters, 1 June 2001, Mandela, speaking at a news conference after talks with French Prime Minister Lionel Jospin).
"Israel should withdraw from the areas which it won from the Arabs — the Golan Heights, south Lebanon and the West Bank — that is the price of peace" (Dispatch, 20 October 1999)
"Our men and women with vision choose peace rather than confrontation, except in cases where we cannot get, where we cannot proceed, where we cannot move forward. Then, if the only alternative is violence, we will use violence" (Associated Press , 20 October 1999)
"The histories of our two peoples, Palestinian and South African, correspond in such painful and poignant ways, that I intensely feel myself being at home amongst compatriots" (Associated Press , 20 October 1999)
"The long-standing fraternal bonds between our two liberation movements are now translating into the relations between two governments" (Associated Press, 20 October 1999)
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Model No. 831.24824.6 TR A Serial No. Manual Write the serial number in the space User's above for future reference. Serial Number Decal • Assembly • Operation • Maintenance • Part List and Drawing Sears, Roebuck and Co., Hoffman Estates, IL 60179...
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iMPORTANT PRECAUTIONS WARNING: To reduce the .skofso.ous niury, read a . and in- important precautions structions in this manual and all warnings on your treadmill before using your treadmill. Sears as- sumes no responsibility for personal injury or property damage sustained by or through the use of this product.
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Never leave the treadmill unattended while it DANG ER: A ways unplug the power is running. Always remove the key, unplug cord immediately after use,beforecleaning the the power cord, and switch the reset/off cir- treadmill, and before performing the mainte- cuit breaker to the off position when the nance and adjustment procedures described in...
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BEFORE YOU BEGIN Thank you for selecting the new PROFORM ®CROSS- ing this manual, please see the back cover of this WALK 480 treadmill. The CROSSWALK 480 treadmill manual. To help us assist you, please note the product offers a selection of features designed to make your model number and serial number before contacting us.
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ASSEMBLY Assembly requires two persons. Set the treadmill in a cleared area and remove all packing materials. Do not dispose of the packing materials until assembly is completed. Note: The underside of the treadmill walking belt is coated with high-performance lubricant.
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Make sure that the power cord is unplugged. With the help of a second person, carefully tip the treadmill onto its left side. Partially fold the Frame (57) so that the treadmill is more stable; do not fully fold the Frame yet. Remove and discard the two indicated bolts (A) Hole and the shipping bracket (B).
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Remove theM10Locknut ( 36),theM10x50mm Bolt(26),andtheshipping bracket ( C)fromthe Base(99). A ttacha Wheel ( 95)withtheBoltand theLocknut thatyoujustremoved. Do not over- tighten the Locknut; the Wheel must turn freely. Discard the shipping bracket. Identify the Right Upright (80) and the Right Upright Spacer (90), which are marked with Wire "Right"...
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6. Press a BaseCap(91)intothe Base(99). With the help of a second person, carefully tip the treadmill onto its right side. Partially fold the Frame (57) so that the treadmill is more stable; do not fully fold the Frame yet. Remove and discard the two indicated bolts (A) and the shipping bracket (B).
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Hold a Bolt Spacer (98) inside the lower end of the Left Upright (79). Insert an M10 x 96mm Bolt (7) with an M10 Star Washer (8) into the Left Upright and the Bolt Spacer. Repeat this step with a second Bolt Spacer (98), M10 x 96ram Bolt (7), and MIO Star Washer (8).
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11. Attach the Left Handrail (21) to the console as- sembly with three M4.2 x 19mm Screws (1). Remove the ties from the two M8 Cage Nuts (39). If necessary, press the Cage Nuts back into place. Console Assembly 12. Have a second person hold the console assem- bly near the Right Upright (80).
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13. Finger tighten two M8 x 25mm Bolts (4) with two M8 Star Washers (9) into the Left Upright (79) Console and the Left Handrail (21); do not fully tighten Assembly the Bolts yet. Next, finger tighten two M8 x 25mm Bolts (4) with two M8 Star Washers (9) into the Right Upright (80) and the Right Handrail (100).
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15. Insert the end of a Crosswalk Arm (82) into the hole in the top of a resistance mechanism. Make sure that the bend in the Crosswalk Arm is positioned as shown. Tighten the M4.2 x 19mm Screw (1) into the re- sistance mechanism and Crosswalk Arm (82) from the direction shown.
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OPERATION AND ADJUSTMENT THE PRE-LUBRICATED WALKING BELT tric shock. This product is equipped with a cord having an equipment-grounding conductor and a grounding Your treadmill features a walking belt coated with high- plug. Plug the power cord into a surge suppressor, performance lubricant.
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CONSOLEDIAGRAM STOP FEATURES OF THE CONSOLE To turn on the power, see page 16. To use the man- ual mode, see page 16. To use a preset workout, The treadmill console offers a selection of features page 18. To use the information mode, see page 19. designed to make your workouts more effective and enjoyable.
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HOW TO TURN ON THE POWER Start the walking belt. IMPORTANT: if the treadmill has been exposed to To start the walking belt, press the Start button, the cold temperatures, allow it to warm to room tem- Speed increase button, or one of the ten numbered perature before turning on the power, if you do not...
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The lower left display To measure your heart rate, stand can show the elapsed on the foot rails time and the distance _;30 TI_E that you have walked and place your hands on the or run during your metal contacts-- workout.
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HOW TO USE A PRESET WORKOUT flash. If a different speed or incline setting is pro- grammed for the next segment, the speed or in- Insert the key into the console. cline setting will flash in the display to alert you. See HOW TO TURN ON THE POWER on page If you have selected a crosswalk workout, you will be prompted to use the crosswalk arms.
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THE iNFORMATiON MODE HOW TO USE THE CROSSWALK ARMS The console features an information mode that keeps As you walk on the treadmill, you can hold the track of treadmill usage information and allows you to handrails or use the crosswalk arms. To exercise your select a unit of measurement for the console.
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HOW TO FOLD AND MOVE THE TREADMILL HOW TO FOLD THE TREADMILL FOR STORAGE Before folding the treadmill, adjust the incline to the lowest position, if you do not do this, you may damage the treadmill when you fold it. Remove the key and unplug the power cord.
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HOW TO LOWER THE TREADMILL FOR USE Hold the upper end of the treadmill with your right hand. Pull the latch knob to the left and hold it. It may be nec- essary to push the frame forward as you pull the knob to the left.
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TROUBLESHOOTING Most treadmill problems can be solved by following the steps below. Find the symptom that applies, and follow the steps listed. If further assistance is needed, please see the back cover of this manual. PROBLEM: The power does not turn on SOLUTION: a.
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Remove the three M4.2 x 19mm Screws (1) and carefully pivot the Motor Hood (63) off. Locate the Reed Switch (69) and the Magnet (48) on the left side of the Pulley (52). Turn the Pulley until the Magnet is aligned with the Reed Switch. 1/8 in.-- Make sure that the gap between the Magnet and the Reed Switch is about 1/8 in.
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PROBLEM: The walking belt is off-center or slips when walked on SOLUTION: a. If the walking belt is off-center, first remove the key and UNPLUG THE POWER CORD. If the walking belt has shifted to the left, use the hex key to turn the left idler roller bolt clockwise 1/2 of a turn;...
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EXERCISE GUiDELiNES Burning Fat--To burn fat effectively, you must exer- , WARNING: Before beginning this cise at a low intensity level for a sustained period of time. During the first few minutes of exercise, your or any exercise program, consult your physi- body uses carbohydrate calories for energy.
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PART LISTmModel No. 831.24824.6 R0809A To locate the parts listed below, see the EXPLODED DRAWING near the end of this manual. Key No. Qty. Description Key No. Qty. Description M4.2 x 19mm Screw Walking Platform M4.2 x 25mm Tek Screw Drive Roller/Pulley 3/8"...
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Key No. Qty. Description Key No. Qty. Description Lift Motor Wire Drive Motor Bracket Hand rail Cap 8" Cable Tie Console Base M4.2 x 10mm Screw Book Holder M8 Nut Fan Grill Foot Rail Decal Fan Housing/Fan 12" Blue Wire, 2F 7 1/2"...
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12" x 12" ceiling tiles
I am trying to match some 12x12 ceiling tiles. The ones that are up have holes in them, (they look like peg board but the holes are closer together)
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My wife and I are coming to NY (and the US) for the first time in May, staying at the Skyline Hotel (10th and 49th street). We are pensioners (or as you say "senior citizens!!) and therefore aren't "big spenders" and want to eat in traditional US eateries (you can eat multinational in any city). Also though we have good appetites we believe the portions in many places are what we Brits would call "huge". So - any tips from you New Yorkers on a) good but not too expensive diners in our hotel area (we've got the Cosmic Diner and Renaiissance Diner from the internet - any reports on these or recommendations for alternatives for breakfast or dinner, b) any tips on how to share meals - is it OK in all restaurants or how do you negotiate a deal?
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The Cosmic Diner, while near your hotel, isn't a very good diner. Renaissance Diner is hit and miss and really doesn't capture the diner aesthetic.
If you're looking for an American diner experience in that neighborhood, I would recommend Westway Diner, on the east side of 9th Avenue between 43rd and 44th Streets.
My favorite diner in the city, though, is the Comfort Diner on 23rd Street between 5th and 6th Avenues. It's a short subway ride away from where you're staying.
There's the Skylight Diner on 34th btw 9th and 10th, Comfort Diner (snaps to Jake), El Centro Mexican restaurant on 54th and 9th, Uncle Nick's Greek restauarant on 9th...
a) There's a Daisy May's Barbecue on 11th and 46th that's pretty inexpensive and good, about the same price as a nyc diner.
I think Venezuelan arepas are a pretty quintessentially American experience these days. There's a very small, non-fancy place with great food called Empanada Mama's close to you on 9th Ave. between 51st and 52nd. It's very inexpensive and filling and--have I mentioned tasty?
Vinyl, a diner on 51st and 9th, serves pretty good diner fare (and some Thai, as well), though the crowd may not be the type you prefer to dine with (mostly 20s-30s).
A lot of tourists seem to enjoy Ellen's Stardust diner on 51st and Broadway, I think. The waitstaff will sing to you, I don't know how good the food is. It bills itself as a NYC institution. Maybe someone who's gone has more to say about it.
b) You shouldn't have a problem sharing! Some places will charge you a sharing fee, but most places don't. If anyone looks at you askance, just explain that you are pensioners (and be sure to tip decently -- many people do 15% for average, 20% for good).
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Yay cimui! If you're looking for a diner, Ellen's is most definitly the place to go. I grew up in NY, I have family there, both my parents work there, I've seen more broadway shows than I can count, and I've even worked on Madison Ave the past few summers, I'm certainly no tourist; but going to Ellen's has nearly become a tradition in my family. It gets labelled a tourist spot due to the fact that it's across the street from Mars2112 and it's a great place for pre/post theater meals, but i guarentee, it's not the tourists that keep it busy until 1am.
The food is wonderful, it's nothing fancy, it's nothing overly expensive, it's simple american comfort food and it's always very good. I've gone with groups of 15 and I've gone with just one other person, I've never heard or had any complaints. They have some of the best milkshakes I've ever tasted and personally I think their hamburgers are some of the best in NYC.
It's true that the waitstaff sings, the waitstaff is made up of actual broadway actors/actresses who aren't currently in a show. Part of the application process is one hell of an audition apparently, because all of the singers are very talented. They sing in between taking orders, they sing while printing out checks, they even sing while carrying a tray of food and drinks, I'm not kidding, they're very good. I definitly agree with the "NYC Institution", because that restaurant really is the spirit of the theater district, I've been there before shows, after shows, hell I've been there when I wasn't even going to a show, and it really is the restaurant of the NYC Theater District.
As for sharing, they really don't care as long as you pay the bill. Ellen's Stardust Diner is in my opinion the perfect place for a very fun, very tasty, somewhat cheap dinner in NYC.
re: hungry_fox
Wow, what a rousing endorsement! I walk by there all the time. Now I might actually have to try it. Thanks, hungry fox.
Just a question. If this is your first time in NY, why do you want to dine in Diners specifically? Is there a certain appeal or is it a certain dish? Theres just so many places to eat here that I think dining at diners alone would be a waste.
That said, I think you should split a pastrami sandwich over at Katzs.
Hey, sigmatrain, I think csw makes a good point. While there are some good diners in NYC, overall, I think the food you get in most is totally pedestrian. I also hope you are not going to be limiting yourself to eating only in the area surrounding your hotel. With that in mind....
Since you say you are looking to eat in "traditional US eateries," you might be interested in taking my (in)famous Lower East Side eating "tour." It will give you the opportunity to walk around a very interesting, historic neighborhood while at the same, you can sample many foods emblematic of NYC. Fun, very filling, and not at all costly. From your hotel, you can get there via public transportation. I'm appending the tour here:
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For the quintessential NYC deli experiences, no place beats Katz's, on the corner of Houston (pronounced "how-stun") & Ludlow Sts. You're there specifically for the pastrami sandwich. When you enter, you will be given a ticket. Instead of opting for table service, do what the "natives" do and get on line for counter service. When you reach the counter, put a $1 for each sandwich in the counterman's tip cup and order pastrami on rye. He'll give you a piece to taste. If you like it (the best pastrami is juicy and has some fat on it), tell him o.k., and he'll make your sandwich, give you some sour pickles, and punch your ticket. Then, continue along the counter for sides – the cole slaw is good -- and drinks. Find seats at a table in the center of the room. (Tables along the wall have menus on them and are reserved for waiter service.) When you're done, take your ticket to the cashier in front. It's cash only. Note: For the purposes of this tour, unless you have a gargantuan appetite, it would be best to share one sandwich in order to leave room for more tastings along the way.
When you exit Katz's, turn left and continue along the same side of Houston St. You will come to Russ & Daughters, famous for all sorts of smoked fish and many other goodies. It's not a restaurant, but they make sandwiches to go.
After leaving the Russes, continue west a couple of blocks until you reach Yonah Schimmel's. Get a tasty potato knish, and make sure to ask them to heat it up.
Now it's time for the quintessential NY drink – the egg cream. So, reverse yourself and head east on Houston until you come to Avenue A. (Note: Avenue A becomes Essex St. on the south side of Houston.) Turn left on A and head north until you get to the block between 7th St. and St. Mark's Place. Look for a hole-in-the-wall candy shop, closer to 7th, with an overhead sign jutting into the street that says, "Belgian Fries." (The place's official name is Ray's, but there is no signage to that effect.) One of the women behind the counter will make you a delicious chocolate egg cream.
When you're finished licking your lips, go back to Houston St. and make a left (east) one block to Norfolk St. Turn right and walk down Norfolk until it ends at Grand St. Two places to look for at the corner of Grand and Norfolk: Kossar's, for freshly baked bialys (another very NY food) and the Donut Plant (self-explanatory).
Next, walking west along Grand St., you will come to Orchard St. Turn right. At 87 Orchard, snack on a pickle from Gus's World Famous Pickles.
Then, continue to 97 Orchard, b/t Broome & Delancey, where you will find the Tenement Museum. The tour will show you what life was like for immigrants to NYC at the beginning of the 20th century. ( http://www.tenement.org
Once you have finished the tour, Il Laboratorio del Gelato, right next door at 95 Orchard, is a must for some of the best gelato anywhere.
If your sweet tooth is still not completely satisfied, the final stop on this tour should do it. Continue ahead (north) on Orchard, crossing Delancey, then one more block to Rivington St. Make a right and you will find Economy Candy at 145 Rivington.
Note: It's best not to take this tour on a Saturday since some of the spots are closed because of religious observance. Also, Donut Plant is closed on Mondays.
Hope you have a great first-time visit to NYC and Bon Appetit!
re: RGR
I hope you take RGR's advice! That is an excellent "tour" and you will eat well on the relative cheap.
Around your hotel I really enjoy eatery - http://www.eaterynyc.com/ and Nick's (someone suggsted upthread). A visit to Lombardi's pizza in Little Italy is a must too.
re: megaepicure
I like Eatery a lot, too, but I think it might be louder and more sceney than what sigmatrain is looking for. It's also a little pricier than the other places we (the collective We!) have mentioned.
Pizza places are a great idea, though! In addition to Lombardi's (surely a NYC institution), there's also John's Pizzeria on Bleeker and Joe's Pizza on 7th Ave near W. 3rd. And Arturo's on Bleeker. I'm not really a pizza connaisseur, but there are many on this board who are.
re: cimui
Don't forget there's a John's Pizzeria right near sigmatrain's hotel on 44th near 8th Ave. That's my personal fave in the John's bunch if only for the decor. http://www.johnspizzerianyc.com/index...
re: ballulah
I didn't know, actually--thanks!
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RGR i love reading about your lower east side tour. My grandfather started Katzs with two other men and then my father took it over with the other gentlemens children. My dad's picture still is over the register in his army uniform (send a salami to your boy in the army) and my grandfather is still in the window with the original owners. I've taken your tour and it is really wonderful. Too bad Ratners isnt still there. Your tour was great!
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Thanks, karins! So glad you enjoyed the tour. Praise coming from someone with a family connection to Katz's is a great honor. :-) Yes, Ratner's would definitely have been a must stop on this kind of eating extravaganza. But to be honest, the restaurant I truly miss is the French Roumanian. :-( :-( I still drool just remembering their chopped liver. lol
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The French Roumanian was on Delancey, b/t Essex & Ludlow. Growing up on the LES, I considered it a "fancy" treat when my parents occasionally took me there. I think the last time I ate there was with my husband and my parents in 1968-69. It closed soon after. I've never been to Sammy's though I would presume the type of food is the same.
While you are visiting NY and the States, you simply MUST have a perfect hamburger. Reasonably close to your hotel are two great places to choose from. The first is closest, Island Burgers on 51st and 9th Ave. The fact that Island Burgers is too small for a deep fryer and doesn't serve fries will help some in the smaller portion department. The second is the Burger Joint in Le Parker Meridien Hotel on 57th Street. Both are very cheap.
For a really lovely and low key Italian meal, also near your hotel, and very reasonably priced, I recommend Basilica on 46th and 9th Ave. If you're looking to share, I would order a couple of appetizers and a pasta dish. Very homey, welcoming atmosphere and very reasonably priced.
I agree with whomever suggested Westway Diner as the best diner option in the area.
And you should also get some bagels and cream cheese from Times Square Hot Bagels on 44th Street close to 7th Ave/Broadway. And although I'm not a huge fan of H&H Bagels, many many many disagree with me and your hotel is located very close to their bakery. It would be fun to swing by the store at the big bakery and pick up some for breakfast (I believe they're open 24 hours). http://www.handhbagel.com/Home_page.htm
Use this website as a starting point for looking at menus and prices for NY restaurants, broken down by neighborhood. www.menupages.com
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Island burger's a great suggestion. I grew up around the corner and happy to see this place added to the community. Another good burger place, if you find yourselves near st. marks and 2nd ave. is Paul's Burgers. They make great milk shakes too.
If you're taking the LES eating tour, you might want to consider brunch at Clinton Street Bakery. Get there early cause you'll wait a heck of a long time otherwise.
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Love the Shake Shack in Madison Square Park.
My father (also an OAP) always thinks he likes diners when we go to New York but, in my opinion, once you've seen one, you've seen them all. For real New York atmosphere go to Oyster Bar in Grand Central Station, Boat House in Central Park, Katz, Sammy's Roumanian, a great Italian like Gino's. You might like Keen's (where you can certainly share an entree) as it's a bit like Simpson's in the Strand. You could go to the London Hotel and have tea!!
In the neighborhood and traditionally southern American soul food is Jezebel (45th and 9th). you can also get take out by walking right into the kitchen.
There's also an outpost of Junior's in the neighborhood at 45th and Broadway for cheesecake
I would definitely try Daisy Maes in the hood, that would cover traditional bbq
I think Vinyl is worth the trip. And H&H (12th and 46th) is great, especially if you go early on a Saturday morning and can see the club kids falling out of Pescha across the street. Ask for Bagels that are hot out of the oven.
Hell's Kitchen also has a better selection of Mexican than the rest of NYC -- more high end (and endless waits) is Hell's Kitchen (47th and (9th). El Centro is also good for Nueva Mexicana (52nd and 9th).
Close to the Skyline are two excellent taco stands that are very authentic (some may think too much so) -- Tulcingo Del Valle (47th and 10th) and Tehuizingo (48th and 10th) and very inexpensive. I would go for any pork based taco -- carnitas, chorizo, or al pastor -- at either place. Also grab a tamarindo soda or a mexican coca cola.
44 and X is in the neighborhood, but I think overpriced -- try to reserve at Cookshop or Red Cat in Chelsea (20s and 10th Ave) -- I think they are the epitome of modern american cuisine and are reasonably priced (entrees in the 20s). You can either walk (1 mile through some nasty neighborhoods) or cab it down for less than 10 bucks.
The diners will tend to have larger portions, but a place like Hell's Kitchen or Cookshop are going to have Euro-sized portions. The huge portions are generally an outside of NYC phenomenon IMHO.
I agree with the suggestions of pizza and burgers.
Note: I think there are potentially better restaurants in some of these categories, but these are all relatively close to the Skyline. The LES trip sounds like a great idea as well.
I always thought New York was funny because its turned so many national dishes in their own. I know you're looking for quintessential American food, but I can't recommend any restaurant in Manhattan without recommending the Soup Dumplings at Joe's Shanghai in Chinatown. It's a pork dumpling filled with hot soup, and it's amazing.
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Today In Bad Ideas: Some guy named Brad Paisley recorded a song, with LL Cool J, talking about how hard it is to be a white man who just wants to wear the Confederate flag in peace. It's called "Accidental Racist", and you can find the (completely problematic) lyrics here. source
Here's the thing that you just need to understand. The Confederate flag is a symbol of the Confederacy and what it stood for, not the traditions and values (like hospitality) of the South.
The Confederate flag was adopted only by the Confederacy. It doesn't predate the Confederacy, and it stopped being used with the fall of the Confederacy. In fact, the flag was only rarely used in the Confederacy; it was the flag of the Army of Northern Virginia (Robert E. Lee's army) and only later became associated with the entire confederacy. In fact, the "Confederate flag" you're familiar with was never the official flag of the Confederacy.
The flag had a renaissance of sorts much later. Much later. The flag began appearing during WWII on units with Southern histories. The first use of the Confederate "stars and bars" on a Southern state flag was as early as 1894: no surprise, it was Mississippi. But that means that Mississippians didn't mind revoking their heritage (the Magnolia flag, which was carried into battle during the Civil War by Mississippi regiments). Georgia's controversial Confederate flag wasn't introduced until 1956.
My problem with the "it's part of our history" argument is two-fold: (1) The history of Southern states extends much further back than the Confederacy, so I'm left wondering why that pivotal (and controversial) moment has become identified as the historical juncture that should define what "the South" is about. (2) The history of the Confederacy was extremely brief: it lasted less than five years. (By contrast, the Third Reich lasted more than twice as long, giving the Nazi flag a stronger claim to historical tradition.)
So we're left with an interesting historical juxtaposition. The Confederate flag was not widely used within the Confederacy, but is clearly identified with the Confederacy's cause. And that flag had a boom in popularity starting in the 1950s. Coincidentally, the 1950s was the start of the modern US Civil Rights Movement. In other words, a symbol of the Confederacy (which will forever by identified with slavery) became popular in South at the same time as African-Americans began advocating for political and social equality.
Now you see why the Confederate flag is "controversial" (to say the least). It seems remarkable that people who want to defend their region's rich cultural traditions and history (and they have many good reasons to do so, I should point out) have gravitated to a very particular symbol identified with racism. Attaching themselves to that symbol meant jettisoning historical state flags (where was the reverence for history then?) and doing so at the same time as Jim Crow and segregation was being challenged in the South.
Perhaps it's because I'm just a "carpetbagger" (as I'm sure many of my students think), but I can't for the life of me understand why anyone who—once confronted with the sheer historical narrative of that flag—would continue to embrace it. Waving a Confederate flag around is a clear sign that either (1) you don't like black people very much, (2) you are in favor of violent overthrow of the US federal government, or (3) you really don't care if people think you believe in the first two options or not.
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Relive the best of the action from day two of the major processing and packaging show ongoing in Cologne, Germany this week.
Relive the best of the action from day two of the major processing and packaging show ongoing in Cologne, Germany this week.
Delegates stream in for the second day of action at Anuga FoodTec 2012
Krones director of filling technology Hans Hiendl in full flow
Food and beverage safety specialist Ecolab demonstrates its technologies
Sidel's stand: Business deals are struck and friendships forged at Anuga FoodTec
This robotic marvel on show at Anuga meets the need for fast, efficient and safe packaging of foodstuffs
Swedish packaging specialist Ecolean presents its lightweight and consumer friendly solutions
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