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A strange situation
September 14, 2012
Dear Artist,
Recently, Patricia Godvin of Bozeman, Montana wrote, "As an artist who works with the nude figure, I find so little quality dialogue or artists' exchange of ideas concerning this subject. I would love you to stimulate some discussion on working with the unclothed figure."
Thanks, Patricia. Have you ever noticed that paintings of nudes come and go in popularity? In the galleries I work with, there are currently very few. Back in art school the nude was de rigueur and I actually thought I was getting the hang of it. In those days, most of our models were women. Perhaps the current decline is because the idea of "woman as object" is not as popular as it once was.
I recently passed by a classroom full of women furiously drawing a nude guy. It seemed a comment on our times and a subject for a New Yorker cartoon.
Fact is, the unclothed figure, male or female, is an education in waiting. Above spheres, cones and blocks, the human figure is key to understanding light and form. Michelangelo went so far as to say, "One who does not master the nude cannot understand the principles of architecture." Student artists neglect figurative work at their peril. Painting or drawing nudes with facility was a rite of passage for past members of the Brotherhood and Sisterhood. Fortunately, underground vestiges of the cult still exist. "The naked form," said Auguste Rodin, "belongs to no particular moment in history; it is eternal, and can be looked upon with joy by the people in all ages."
Well, maybe not by all people in all ages. Whole cultures are currently trying to get more and more folks to cover up. Is the world turning once again toward some sort of Puritan modesty, equating skin with prurience and sin? Might this be partly because of recent Western art trends depicting naked depravity? Was, as some critics think, Toulouse Lautrec the naughty one who set the orgy in motion? Perhaps we might, within the anatomy of our imaginations, think once more of the naked body as a vessel of grace, taste and wonder. In the spotted history of art, stranger things have happened.
Best regards,
PS: "The body always expresses the spirit whose envelope it is. And for him who can see, the nude offers the richest meaning." (Auguste Rodin)
A modest proposal
Esoterica: Our bodies, apart from their brilliant role as drawing exercises, are the temples of our being. Like the bodies of all fauna, they deserve both our study and our appreciation. Few there are who object to a naked dog, cat, horse or parakeet. The Society for the Encouragement of Modesty in Animals (SEMA) attracted only 72 members before its website went blank. I once considered a program to put shorts on dogs, but Dorothy rejected the garment and made an unpleasant fuss. There's something natural about au naturel. But when, for art's sake, will au naturel make its next comeback? "What is the body? That shadow of a shadow of your love that somehow contains the entire universe." (Rumi)
Better than psychiatryby Catherine Stock, France
I organise and attend weekly life drawing sessions. To my mind, they serve the same purpose as sessions
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with a shrink, as all my feelings, sometimes good and sometimes bad, are exorcised onto paper. My life drawings don't sell but they are my purest and best work and keep me sane.
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I have learned far more from life drawing than from any other form of art or art instruction. My ability to observe even the most subtle detail and nuance has increased tremendously, and I am able to then apply that skill to other areas of my painting.
'Pose drift'by John Crowther, Los Angeles, CA, USA
I attend a weekly uninstructed figure drawing workshop with some remarkable artists. One of the most
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fascinating paradoxes of my life, counter-intuitive really, is that my figure drawing skills have improved thanks to my cartooning, not the other way around as one might expect. I cartoon from the images in my head; I draw the figure from the model. But the reality of live models is that they move. It's what I call "pose drift." If you're not aware of it, all the "mapping" you do in the early stages is out the window by the time you've completing your drawing. Robert Henri brilliantly said that in his ideal figure drawing class the model would be in one room and you would actually draw in another. You capture the model in your mind, then go to the next room and draw.
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Nudes are hotby Doug Swinton, Calgary, AB, Canada
I have painted the nude for a long time. I have also painted the landscape for a long time. Landscapes
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sell well in galleries. No one wants nudes. Recently my second out-of-town gallery was purchased and thus had new owners who had never owned a gallery before. The new owners of my second gallery started taking nudes from the moment they saw them, sighting that they were beautiful and should have no problem selling maintaining an, "I will take anything that will sell" attitude. My first gallery has always maintained, "Nudes just don't sell" "We can't give a charcoal away." Meantime, gallery-two now sells them all the time. Recently, gallery-one came to the studio to pick up some new work and saw framed nudes ready for gallery-two. "Really, you give them these and they sell them??" "Yes," I said. Not to be outdone, the reluctant gallery took two drawings. Two days later they called to see if I had more, as they had not even hung any on the wall yet and one sold. I now sell nudes quite well in both galleries. I'm not sure why but I hear galleries say all the time, "No we don't take nudes. They don't sell." I can tell you if you don't have any on your walls, they sure won't sell.
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As of course they should sell - they're stunning. Thanks for sharing #14...
i agree.they are stunning
An emotional experienceby Ingrid Christensen, Calgary, AB, Canada
The privilege of studying and painting a nude model is something that generates huge emotion in the class
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that I teach. One of my female students was near tears as she painted the angel-faced, young woman who had been posing for us for the past three hours. The painter said that she pictured all that life still had in store for this innocent girl and felt protective and worried for her.Though model breaks don't give much time for getting to know these women, I find that, at the end of the class, all of the painters express warmth and gratitude to them for the generosity of what they've provided: an opportunity to look deeply at humanity in all its grace and frailty.
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Beautiful painting!
Beautiful words.
I love this painting, and other works too by Ingrid. I love the lost and found edges, the romance and lyricism of it, the play of light and colour across the figure. It is everything a painting should be
Expressing appreciation to the model is a courtesy worth remembering. I sometimes am in a hurry to grab my gear and go or the model is being chatted up by others. I will try to be more patient and courteous.
Bedeviled by 'The Shadow'?by Travis Apel, Omaha, NE, USA
Perhaps Ms. Godvin's view is determined by a bias that has been forged and conditioned for a long
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period of time. Maybe her governing thoughts are due to the haunting, Jungian archetype, the Shadow. This archetype is one that represents alienation, a sinister danger to a mysterious and uncomfortable scenario which can create cognitive dissidence. If I could guess, her predetermined judgement is etched in her amygdala part of the brain and should be regarded as irrelevant because of its subjective memory bank.
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Wonderful! I couldn't have said it more confusedly
Travis, Could you write my artist statement? No need to see my art, your words are sufficient. My dictionary is dog eared, but I now think that I get it, especially the irrelevant part. I now feel free to draw my beloved nudes. Thank you.
The correct term is "cognitive dissonance". (If you're going to spout jargon, get the words right at least.)
I love the word "dissonance" and all other analogous words and phrases employed to give a sense of what is hard to explain or understand about art and making art.
In praise of older womenby Terrie Christian, Plymouth, MN, USA
Part if my own art journey has been the human form and I think it has value. I did both male and
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female drawings at an atelier school and it was good for my education and even has informed some of the more abstract things I do today. One of my favorite artists is Alice Neal and I love her willingness to use her own body even as an older, wider woman. Recently, one of my art friends brought a magazine that had an article about Sigmund Freud's son that featured a painting that he did of an older, thicker woman. All in our group are over 50, not all of us wider, but we all loved that painting. With so much of the imagery these days of almost emaciated models and the concentration on youthful bodies, I would wish that artists who want to paint the body choose many different body types to honor as art. Everybody has beauty in their own way.
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A dated ideaby Richard Harper, Memphis, TN, USA
I learned to draw in life classes. The human body is difficult to draw, but well enough known that any
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mistake is quickly visible. Today I prefer drawing & painting from people with their clothes on. This allows more variation of shapes. The nude is a dated idea that while attractive to viewers is still a picture of a naked person and all that implies. One complaint I have with nude models, especially in long poses, is that their goal is to be comfortable posing is hard. I have posed for a class myself and we had an hour long pose in a freezing cold room. I grew tired and was able to utter, "I think I'm about to faint" a second before I did faint. Upon coming to I had the wherewithal to comment, "I dreamed of waking up naked in a room of people." How the drawings turned out I don't know. I prefer talking to my subjects while I draw and paint them. They are more engaged this way and I can see it in their muscles.
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Can't fake anatomyby Jill Wagner, Saline, MI, USA
Even though I am mainly a plein air painter, I love going to figure drawing class every week. I think
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it is the absolutely best way to learn to "see" and then "translate what you see." It is easy to fake a tree or a flower, but it is instantly noticeable when a limb or muscle does not read correctly in a painting. Our bodies are probably our most intimate subject and we know it better than any other. I feel earning to draw the human form is imperative for all artists. Now if only all galleries and museums also valued nude paintings.
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The contemporary nudeby Teresa Posyniak, Calgary, AB, Canada
I have drawn and painted from nude models for many years and incorporated this imagery in my work.
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As an art student in the seventies, I was expected to learn to draw from the model as an exercise, among many others. I guess it stuck with me, and ten years after graduating with my MFA, I found myself working with the nude again. I approached the subject of the nude in a more personal way and appreciated the individuality of my subjects, who became inspirations for some of my work. Thus, the nude, for me, was not an object. The women (and male models) were not objects, and I didn't view them as such. The Nude became a way to deal with the issues of vulnerability and resiliency. For instance, in 2010 I had a solo exhibition at the Glenbow Museum which focused on my triptych, "I Speak my Daughter Tongue." This piece portrayed a couple (both nude) holding a bundle of their late daughter's t-shirts
as an expression of their grief. The Glenbow Museum in Calgary chose my work as a 'contemporary' approach to the Nude. My website
has some details of the work as well as the writing about it and other works.
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Hooked on the human figureby Karen Martin Sampson, Sayward, BC, Canada
I have been fascinated with the human form and face since I started drawing as a small child. Most of
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my work has involved the human figure, especially nudes. Lately I have been doing more draped figures, but with the underlying form of the figure still being present. I have found that there is not a huge market for many of my figurative pieces, but many have sold over the years. I have even had a gallery turn down my work because they considered themselves a "family" business and didn't want to offend anyone with nudes in their gallery! No matter how often I am prevailed upon by others to do more "marketable" subjects, I am hooked on the human figure.
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Beautiful work Karen, as are the other works on your website.
Where there's a will, there's a wayby Rick Rotante, Tujunga, CA, USA
Unfortunately, my nude figure work does not garner income and comes with all the clichés attached in
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a very puritanical society.Figure paintings are in a Renaissance and those who have spent years learning the figure are now in the forefront of figure painting. The East Coast of America is the hub for figure painters, not Montana. Although my teacher moved there some years ago, his work is valued and sold primarily on the East Coast. One aspect of figure painting is you can use them in paintings but not so much as subject matter. Also I use my nude studies to get the proportions correct, then paint the figure in clothes for finished works. This has been done by the masters. I have even gone so far as to clothe old nude figure paintings and re-title them. These have done better and I am slowly bringing down my inventory. In addition, I do still life and landscape for the money, though my passion is with figure work. Don't stop painting what is in your heart. But think about the practical side and establish your reputation by being an all-around painter. Lastly, I use the landscape as a foil for my figure work. Much of what you see on my site were at once nudes now re-painted with clothes in landscapes and urbanscapes. There may come a time when nudes will be again appreciated but not until we lose our stifling, puritanical thinking.As for women as object, there too, it's all in the way we look at things. Women can and are painted with style and grace toward women hood and not as sex objects. It's all in your approach. I've painted nude men, but on the practical side, they don't sell. Here again, though, things are changing with the freedom of sexual choice and inclinations. I do sell nude men and get requests for original works of men to male clients. So, where there is a will, there is a way.
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The comment: "Above spheres,cones and blocks, the human figure is key to understanding light and form." It really says it all! I too had Life Drawing as a basis of my education. Later in life I had the privilege of teaching 'Life drawing for artists' with a colleague who is a talented sculptor.
We combined his background of anatomical perfection with my instinctive eye and we had a successful and fun class for a few years.
We fervently believed and still do, that anatomy is the basis for all art. It is the Neuro Surgeon's Biology and Chemistry for an
artist. The beauty of the human form is the strong foundation to build on.
And I LOVE your humor Robert! Is there something wrong with shorts on my cat? You haven't seen him!
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A thorough understanding of the anatomy of the human figure in its ideal form (i.e. Leonardo's geometric figure) is fundamental to relating to, and interpreting, our perception of the world. Drawing it drills it into our psyche. And, I just saw the Lansdowne Herakles at the Getty Villa in Malibu the other day...a classic example of quintessential proportion.
Having had some training in classical life drawing I appreciated that opportunity to gain that experience. There are a few critical factors that you need to consider: you need an environment where the model is comfortable, the cost for hiring a model, and time needed to complete a drawing or painting. Some colleges and universities offer classes in life drawing and painting in their art department. Usually is not a problem for anyone who wants to can get permission to take such courses but there will be fees to take these courses. Workshops are another venue. Formal training, in my opinion, is highly recommended but not required. I often draw people I see on my HD television. I just pause the image and start drawing. It's not as good as life drawing but it can be fun and challenging.
Huh? Why the blame on Toulouse Lautrec? That doesn't make any sense to me.
There's no doubt that the human figure is an essential subject in art. I was lucky enough to have a high school art teacher who taught us the basics of drawing the figure (not nude, but short drawing sessions in which we took turns modeling.)
It would be interesting to paint highlighting different societies' ways of regarding the human figure, not just on the subject of clothing or lack of it, but weight, age, gender, makeup/tattoos/piercings, commercialization, etc.
It's hard for me to understand why the naked figure is such a taboo when we've all got bodies, and have seen them naked at some point.
After all, we're all naked under our clothes!
I understand Patricia's confusion around painting the Nude form and the viewer seeing this as Naked. In Art School we learn to draw the nude form as a tool to understand what the mechanics of the body are and therefore paint or draw the clothed form more accurately but as we draw the nude model we stop seeing him or her as a Naked person and as a unique landscape of light and shadow, moving and still at the same time.
When I realized that there were some that had a problem with the Nude painting I adapted my style to be more gestural than literal and left the facial features off or obscured. This is my attempt to help the viewer see the beauty of the human form and not the object.
The "beauty of the human form" is not universal. For many of us clothing covers a multitude of sins. On the other hand, a female friend of ours, on seeing Rubens paintings in Europe said, "Now there's a man who knew what a woman is supposed to look like."
It is a rare patron who will display a nude in their home. The final home for figure painting is limited, unless you are one of those very few whose work resides in a museum. So then you're faced with what to do with all those paintings after you've mastered the human form.
I've noted those nudes that have endured as great paintings are the more classical depictions: women bathing, men warriors, and as gods or virtues. Fine for the 19th century but difficult with our modern day sensibilities.
You could settle for partial nudes with dancers or athletes but then it becomes just another figure or portrait, not a nude. Good luck trying to change peoples' perception of what the human form should be ... culture is too much of a brick wall to break through. It's exhausting and draining of energy, and I'm not up for it anymore.
Other than some life classes in college most of my anatomy lessons came in the ER and labor and delivery. The glare of an overhead light can't substitute for subtle soft lighting but it all sufficed for what I want to do.
I think the greater question is suitability. If you can answer that it might give you guidelines in how to present your nude figure. Other than suggest you keep it classic and keep it classy, I don't know.
For anyone interested in the most complete history and philosophy behind the nude in Art, I suggest reading "The Nude, A Study In Ideal Form" by the British scholar Kenneth Clark.
Thanks for your letter today.
Here is a link to a blog that considers Sir Kenneth Clark's chapter from "The Nude" titled "The Alternative Tradition". It is wonderful to read.
"Perhaps we might, within the anatomy of our imaginations, think once more of the naked body as a vessel of grace, taste and wonder. In the spotted history of art, stranger things have happened."
Robert that is a beautifully written sentence.You handle the pen as beautifully as the brush. Thank you.
A couple of personal observations. I have never seen a painting of a nude in any home I have been in, so I expect it has a limited market. Secondly, and not particularly important I suppose...but it seems to me that women outnumber men in painting female nudes, ten to one.
A couple of years ago, when I was monitoring a workshop for Robert Liberace, his young daughters came into the studio on a break. One asked me "why does Daddy always paint people with no clothes on?" Yikes, what a question, right from the babe's mouth! But it was my good fortune to have been in the middle of reading Kenneth Clark's book, The Nude, so I had some kind of answer, part of which was "did you know that the first Olympics were played in the nude?" I sensed a silent sigh of relief from their very lovely mother. I can't recommend Clark's book highly enough!
Holly- This all has to do with a puritanical society we all live in. Even with a (brilliant) painter Dad, his daughter is subject to her environment with school, television - which is getting racier every day not only in content but language and peer pressure. With the Internet and much of its objectionable content, the world hasn't gotten better as regards nudes or nudes in art. Also, if you look back in Greek and Roman history, men where the ones with no clothes, very few women. The ideal body was personified in the male form, not the female form. Today, all that has reversed itself. But here too, things are changing since women have come into their own, they want to see more male skin than ever before. Looking far into the future there may come a time when nudity will be the norm. But, alas, I dream.
A painter worked from a nude female model who came to his home/studio every day. One day, as the painter's wife was just leaving for work, the model arrived. The painter announced he was not feeling well and would not need the model's services. The model asked if she could make him a cup of tea so he might feel better, and the painter agreed. Just as the model brought the tea to him a car was heard in the driveway. "Quick," said the painter, "My wife's come home. Take off your clothes!"
At a time when people are bombing and blowing themselves up and distorting beauty the return of human qualities that transcend and ennoble need to remind us of who we are. Artists like Renoir and so many others showed the simplicity of life in its grandeur and interpreted the figure so we can be good and do good.
I've been conducting open figure drawing workshops for local artists for nearly 5 years, and I can say that the artists at all skill levels work very hard at mastering the nude. It's complex and challenging, a 'landscape' where there can be no deviations, the viewer's eye will always detect them. If you can master the nude, you can master any subject because you've fine tuned your hand eye coordination, your perception of line and volume, your observation of color and transluscence.
It doesn't matter what your style is or how you interpret what you see. There's no substitute for working from a live nude model to aid in furthering your artistic skills.
Also, let me put in a word for the hard working models. A good professional model understands they are an integral part of the creative process and works, sometimes painfully, to facilitate that process. A good professional artist understands and appreciates that a model like that is golden!
Being a painter of nude figures, I find that venues to exhibit the paintings are few and far between. However, tonight celebrates the opening of the "6th Annual Naked in New Hope" exhibit in New Hope, PA. Over three hundred paintings by ninety-two artists are on display for a month and a half. The attendance is so great that the street will be closed to traffic this year. This annual affair almost makes up for the increasing reluctance other galleries express when it comes to committing their wall space to nudity.
Reading your letter on the nude model in art brought to mind an incident in which I was asked by a male friend whether the excitement of seeing a woman unclothed was the main reason for taking the class. I can't recall what I told him exactly but it was a variation of "you don't understand." Many life drawing classes later I polished my answer down to ' The model is the challenge to my self -image as an artist and there is no time to waste'. Can I produce an evocative image? Time is flying. Every mark counts. The concentration required blocks all other thoughts. Aspen, CO
I make sculptures of people to capture what I call their "message" which is often more than they themselves know about themselves. It is the most challenging and rewarding thing I've ever done and will continue to work at it as long as I can still draw a breath. It is simply most worth while to me.
As soon as we begin to clothe ourselves we start covering our actual inner message with things we think represent us or what we would like to be our self image. I like better what people really are naturally than what they would have us believe they are so that is what I strive to represent. To do this, I feel I need to get as directly as I can right to the heart of the matter so to speak. It is in the mind of man an off shoot of honesty where I think even the worst of us are better than we represent ourselves with our designer jeans and props like cool cars and the finest golf clubs or even tattoos. I have yet to sculpt a tattoo as part of the person. I have however sculpted many a bone and a muscle as though it had no skin covering it where it showed a fragment of body language.
If you care to check my web site RGBreur.com you will see several examples of this.
I adore the nude figure as a subject (clothed as well) because I see something beautiful and sacred in every original person. I paint the landscape and I love floral exercises but always a passion for the figure. I am shocked by the numbers of people who do not want to confront nude images depicting older age or ones with large bodies. The pressure to be young and perfect is what I see that contributes to the viewing enjoyment and of course the purchase of nude images. I have friends who very much admire my art but have said please don't share the images of people who are overweight. These critics are people of educated taste and in some cases buy art....but not a nude. Well maybe a back view of a young beauty. I do of course live in Los Angeles California.This is not a reflection of other artists I draw/paint with...only the people who can actually buy and hang a purchased painting in their living room. Of course I shall continue my beloved interest.
The nude figure is my most preferred subject since it is always new; and yet ... each is a marvelous work of engineering. Believing as I do in our Creator, and knowing this is the closest image to God himself, how could I consider myself accomplished in the arts if I did not continue to explore the human figure. Aside from these personal comments, I will not try to add to your already erudite description of the human figure, and the benefits of studying it by students and advanced artists. Drawing from the nude model always humbles me ... and yet, following my exploration, if I have done justice to my subject, I breathe a sigh of one who has achieved something of worth.
I once took a life drawing class with male and female models, old and young, and came to the conclusion that every body is beautiful.
It has always been my firm belief and experience, that no matter what kind of work I might be drawn to landscape, whatever the practice of drawing the nude human form has always been the most inspiring and enlightening of all practices. It improves my work, no matter the subject. Depending on proximity to an art center, university, or museum with a suitable classroom, it can be difficult to find available opportunities. Even if the chance to practice is only occasional, its worth the effort and a little travel to make it happen.
I took a nude drawing class once. The thing I learned is the human body is one of the most difficult subjects to draw. The reason is you can tell right away if something is off kilter! The person does not look like himself/herself. It was really difficult to capture the persons essence. A few people in the class got it right and it was beautiful. All of us others just stood in awe. Very humbling.
I went to an evening workshop, they served wine, there were mostly men over 50 drooling over two nude female models under 25 who shaved their pubes into designs and posed in manners that could easily be seen as dominatrix or S&M. I was so uncomfortable. I went back home sure that I have crossed over into the realm of flower painting forever, an old, old woman. I'm currently in a clothed model workshop and it works better for me. I know they aren't all like this, but...too much for my 60 plus sensibility.
When I was practicing drawing as a younger person, the nude drawing sessions organized by an artist friend would draw 20 to 30 people a week and were one of the only ways I met other artists. At the time, my ambition was to paint a glorious nude which I would sell to to hang above the liquor in my favorite bar. I would imagine going there ever so often to have a drink and meditate upon it.
I found this discussion to be very interesting on two accounts. No. 1, I have noticed the same thing, that there seems to be a decline in interest in drawing/painting/showing the nude. I have found few galleries and/or museums willing to have a show of nudes. Enlightening; are we really more enlightened, or as enlightened in this day and age as we assume we are as a developed civilization? With nudity abounding in every direction in our society, a sense of freedom to disrobe and disclose our bodies in public, why does there seem to be a reluctance to have a show with nudes? Or does this reluctance come from knowledgeable experience on the gallery owners part knowing that the market isnt there as it used to be? And if so, why not? Too much nakedness everywhere in our everyday lives? And not all attractive.
No.2, interesting that there seems to be no profound discussion based on the nude figure. I have found that women (not excluding men) are willing to pose nude for a portrait that will speak of who they are and how they feel about their bodies, their accomplishments, their spirituality as maturing people with maturing bodies. I am in the midst of a project that is specifically targeted to this subject matter. I have 12 paintings completed with more women knocking on my computer door asking to be a part of this project. It is called The Declining Nude, not for negative purposes, but for both humor and a connection to art historys titles, The Reclining Nude. I am hoping for just such a thing, an opportunity to exhibit the series and hold discussion concerning nudity, aging, our times versus history, etc. I will soon have the project posted on my website.
I am not an art teacher...merely a passionate casual artist but I have become involved with teaching or I should say playing with kids and art in a small town in Mexico where I winter. While researching how to do this I have come across the names of a couple of amazing young artists who are just starting out. Babies really. Cameron Sky Villa and Aelita Andre were toddlers when their parents gave them pots of paint and let them go. There is obviously no silly comments like youre using too much paint or your not done yet like I remember. What is remarkable is their concentration. You can tell that they are truly connected to what they are doing and loving it! We may not all have the bread in the bone talent of these youngsters but we artists all share the joy. Still learning...sometimes from babes!
Here are some links for figure drawing. There are still plenty of us.
I have always believed that if you cannot paint/ draw the body correctly then you cannot drape It correctly. Certainly it is those people who either have their mind on the gutter or are overly religious that object to nude studies.
Please don't think that I am objecting to religious beliefs...I am not...only to those who take it to extremes.
Figurative art is one sure way to measure our eye's accuracy. When an observer comments and names the person you've drawn you experience the magic of out talent, to speak without language. Marks on paper become something else" those are my eyes, but, that is not my nose". In fact they are our marks on paper. Without use of the figure, structure may be more difficult. Artists are always looking to find a simple formula that will allow them to produce original and inspirational works. The figure is, I believe, a good place to revisit whenever I need inspirational energy.
I don't agree that "whole cultures" are trying to get us to cover up. I think there is only one culture that's going in that direction.
My only comment is that if all you said about the nude is true.... then theoretically 50% of the nudes sketched, painted, or used as models would be males. Any argument to the contrary would have to notice that if 80% of the nude models/subjects are female, it corresponds curiously with the fact that 80% of the artists are male. ????? A strange situation indeed
There is a monthly website/contest, barebrush.com, that was started by a fellow Salmagundian which you might find of interest! I was the guest curator in June. Also, regarding nudity in animals, I thought I'd heard most everything until earlier this summer, when I brought a watercolor of mine to a gallery that carries some of my work. Upon seeing the egret in flight, the gallery owner remarked " Oh, no way. We can't have a painting with a "tuckus"." So much for an unusual composition!
The nude was center to my learning curve when I became serious about studying painting and drawing. It became clear to me over time, that some artists thought this to be too risky to paint nudes. I was told NUDES dont sell in Canada, people may like them but afraid to hang them in their homes cause someone might report them as pornographic. My son grew up with NUDE paintings all over the house and each time he brought a new friend over, there was the initial shock but they got over it and found art not pornographic images.
Educating people to open their minds to art making, takes patience. Artists may need to explain that its historically important to draw from the nude, mastering the craft of observation, learning anatomy while capturing the personality of each model.
I joined many 'life drawing' groups to eventually hiring some of those nude models to come to my loft, to pose for just a few of us. Such fond memories of those times and enjoyed getting to know the models while respecting their knowledge of what poses look good for artists while sitting long poses without falling asleep with boredom. Just try to sit still for 35 minutes without moving, and then do it nude while people are staring at every inch of your body. Many models take up yoga to help them focus on being still and to keep themselves limber to hold many types of poses. I honor those nude models and thank them and their nude bodies to giving LIFE to my art.
Regarding the clothing of animals: it seems they have a natural clothing, fur, feathers, etc
. nature provided them the protection they need
lobsters have shells, etc. We are the only ones who go around naked
if some folks want to "revere" the naked form, so be it. But I think that those who don't necessarily agree that it is the ONLY way to learn to paint, should be respected for their views as well. It takes diversity to make the world go round as they say and especially in the art world, we should recognize that fact. Respect is key here.
Drawing the body is such a challenging exercise, artistically and emotionally. We are allowed the privilege of seeing a person without their protection, their daily armour. We do honour to the human being by depicting their perfections and flaws, the articulation of bone and muscle, the gesture. We had a model here for many of our classes. He was very shy, only spoke a few words, but what an amazingly expressive model he was. He left this world too young, but the many drawings of him that exist now are his message to us.
I must admit the nude figure is my most lacking area of art subject matter. Upon doing some of my first nude drawings, and having them framed, they were resting against the counter in my kitchen. A five year old friend of mine came strolling into my kitchen and was promptly was scandalized. "Miss Annie! I can't believe you have that kind of pictures in your house!" was his comment. I tried to be very serious and pulled out all my art books. I patiently explained that, as an artist, the body is the hardest thing to paint or draw. Each artist, trying to do it well, does it in their own style. We covered Matisse, Klimt, Michelangelo, and many others. I told him, there was a big difference between these pictures and "naughty" pictures. He went over each book carefully, the last book being Picasso.
Putting his hand up to his face in an aside. He said in a stage whisper, "These are all very good, but that guy, Picasso, doesn't do very good does he?" I almost fell down laughing and replied, "I guess not sweetie; I guess not."
The lack of the nudes male or female is, I think, due to a renewal of prudery in culture. At least, here, in the US. Do not even think about having an image of a male nude in most galleries! Very sad.
Nude human form is my favorite subject. I use my gesture sketches to create monotypes exploring a emotional quality through abstraction and uses of different colors for the same form. Although I enjoy both male and female forms in my work, it seems males are less inclined to bare it all for that close an examination. Most of my study and practice over the past 40 years has been the human form.
The biggest challenge is finding a place to show my work. During an open studio event at my home, I had a small gallery displaying my monotypes along with a movie showing how I create them. One neighbor returned the second week to tell me my work was "pornographic". Evidently, she felt uncomfortable living so close a depraved artist. In displaying nudes, nipples and penises seem to particularly objectionable. I have been encouraged to market this work to wineries and warned away from galleries or other venues where children might be exposed to them (pun intended). I have no problem finding venues for landscapes or animal art.
Along with the nude as subject, it appears non-abstract portraiture has fallen out of favor. I have moved from the skills of capturing emotional essence through human facial expression to small watercolor portraits of people's pets. Those are popular. I have had more commissions from that work than from any other.
Here is a direct link to a sampling of monotypes on my website.
Imagine my surprise as a seventeen year old freshmen in college, my first nude model in painting class was a male, playing a violin no less. I just wanted him to stand still, drawing a moving figure was just too difficult.
I am in the midst of my seasonal phone campaign to book models both female and male for our well-attended drop-in Life-Drawing classes at the art centre where I work. I like the word 'Life' because it says so much about the inner and outer process of this kind of work.
There should be an energy between the model and the artist similar to an actor and audience. I have learned a great appreciation for what the models give in terms of how they present, ,and often torture, their bodies to give us exciting, challenging views to draw.
An excellent book on the subject is Peter Steinhart's "The Undressed Art - Why We Draw".
Perhaps the few nudes in art galleries is because the female body has been so cheapened by trashy and slutty clothes on young girls' (and old?) bodies - flaunting for popularity. It's simply not that attractive at times with diabesity running rampant. Hence, growing lack of interest in WELL DONE nude art - we've been trained to look away - it's less painful most of the time.
As a mother of 2 teenage girls with beautiful bodies and still so innocent, I worry that they will not treasure their bodies and pureness for as long as they can -- rather will succumb to the current young society's pressures to "put out or get out".
My challenge is to teach them otherwise -- which involves some covering up because "it's not just not right" to walk around with your butt cheeks hanging out, showing your belly and revealing cleavage.
I am studying a Diploma of Visual Art and due to cutbacks there will be no life drawing classes. Ridiculous. Some of the best nude male drawings Ive seen were done by Paul Cadmus who specialized.
As one who does her share of sacred art and enjoyed a not-too-repressive Catholic education, I must still say that study of the nude is even done for sacred art - they still need to know how to draw a body. Also, not so long ago, the nude studies were required, as you say, but also study of cadavers in degrees of autopsy to understand the bones and ligaments.
I shy off for the sake of comfy social life myself, often enough, and finally found a path through it.....
Benjamin Franklin took his daily swim, often skinny-dipping, and/or air bath anyway, determined to be a bit more sensible and desirous of long life from healthy habits.
Michelangelo's words are so true but he could take his study and experience of the nude, including children WAY too far as young man, though it was not considered the obscenity and illegal act it is today. It was often still said to be a sin, and his last poems are appeals for redemption and forgiveness on the subject. His figures are still among the most powerful and non-evasive expressions in creation and worthy of honor and respect. But The pope called his nudes on Sistine Chapel wayyyyy too obscene "like a brothel or a bar", and since he would not paint clothes on them, the pope hired someone else to do it.
So it still goes back to "it's not what you do, but how you do it" and WHY you do it.
Patricia Godvin wrote; "As an artist who works with the nude figure, I find so little quality dialogue or artists' exchange of ideas concerning this subject. I would love you to stimulate some discussion on working with the unclothed figure."
Seems rather vague about what Patricia is looking for, what is quality dialogue?
I will offer this..
I believe when one looks at another closely, they will always see something beautiful.
I'm not trying to create narrative symbolic content or trite pretentious allegorical pictures, I just enjoy painting from the model in the studio each week.
Just the same during the Victorian Era we don't lack for great painters. Rodin also spent hours drawing circles. Perfect form and beauty I think were synonymous for him. Modern pessimism denies the intrinsic beauty and replaces it with a subjective vision that cares little for the objective truth. In this thought the figure whether nude or clothed loses its form by putting more value on its symbolism than its actual form. That's when you need a Rembrandt to step in a remind us of the value of content in its relation to form and beauty!
Twenty-five years ago when I was in art school it was all about the female nude.
Prague is an European city thus by definition has a lot of outdoor sculpture, much of it Baroque. A friend of mine had AMERICAN visitors who after two days commented that Czechs should do something to cover up all of the nude art, it was disgusting.
I am basically a landscape artist, but every now and then I do love to paint the human figure. I find it the deepest challenge for me. I agree with both the Michelangelo and Rodin quotes. I have always been amazed at the beauty of the human body.
I've only been attempting figurative work (specifically pinup style) for about a year now. Other than complete abstracts with liquid paint and no brushes, I haven't really done any painting before. I have high aspirations of getting good at this genre and then expanding into more serious paintings that will include some nudity, some suggestive eroticism but not anything explicit or pornographic. I get some sideways looks and lots of 'no comment' type reactions from people who see my paintings.
What's the big deal?
The nude and eroticism such a compelling and intriguing subjects. I've wondered if The Painters Keys has a policy of avoiding them?
I wonder what Patricia would think of my "nudes". I put the word in quotation marks is that nudity is really for most of my paintings. Explicit sexuality is in the foreground, which very often involves nudity. I'd love to have dialogue about all that too!!
Nudes are not appreciated because they tend to appeal to the sensitivities of our puritan interests. The human body, in and of itself, is beautiful, Gods work, and should not be dismissed as a wonder of nature. What many tend to dismiss or, rather, assume is that artists are looking at the body as a sexual object. Quite to the contrary, the artist looks at it as an object of beauty and majesty. It is, without a doubt, the most perfect form in our universe.
The human form is my first love - Michelangelo's work in sculpture, painting and drawing are what inspired me as a student. When I discovered life drawing, I discovered myself - my humanness and the beauty of the human body in every condition. It was a revelation; and has given me an appreciation of life, and freedom in my work that unfortunately most people don't share - even artist people. I think it should be part of every artist's training to at least learn how to relate human anatomy, after all, it's us.
This link takes you to the prospectus of one of my favorite annual shows; 'Au Naturel' at Clatsop Community College in Astoria, OR. Figure drawing/painting is still alive and well appreciated in Astoria (by a select few thousand) and evidently around the globe.
For 40 years with a short break here and there, I have gone to life drawing groups, and now attend two separate ones week about.
I love the silence, the concentration, the scratchings on paper, the praise given to the model, and then wandering around to ponder on the achievements of each artist.
It takes practice to get the proportions correct, and it is surprising how few can these days. I am now drawing part time on my touchscreen computer, and then cross to paper when the battery runs low. Maybe I'm addicted, but I don't care!
Loved that you addressed this subject. I currently attend a weekly life drawing group and do some of my best work there. But nowhere to exhibit. We have wonderful female models but I wish we had more males.
I wonder if the mystic of the human body is a bit lost with the easy access to seeing EVERYWHERE... magazines, commercials, TV shows, movies, billboards.... just a thought.
I took a life drawing course at Red Deer College a few years ago. It was interesting and fun, most of our models were men, some enthused, some not!"
The nude does not simply represent the body, but relates it, by analogy, to all structures that have become part of our imaginative experience. (Kenneth Clark) Painting figures is the hardest, certainly the most taxing genre, and you have to be the most on your game. If you have significant drawing problems, the figure will fall apart and it will read wrong emotionally. (Jacob Collins) Beautiful nudes made it possible for us to contemplate our sexuality in safety. (Martha Mayer Erlebacher) Nudity is a problem for Americans. It disrupts our social exchange. (Eric Fischl) There is nothing in all the world more beautiful or significant of the laws of the universe than the nude human body. (Robert Henri) -The Guardian...
Art is about showing and seeing: to show that which is concealed, to see what was veiled, is fundamentally gripping. (Jonathan Jones) The living model, the naked body of a woman, is the privileged seat of feeling, but also of questioning... The model must mark you, awaken in you an emotion which you seek in turn to express. (Henri Matisse) And who is so barbarous as not to understand that the foot of a man is nobler than his shoe, and his skin nobler than that of the sheep with which he is clothed. (Michelangelo) I look at a nude. There are myriads of tiny tints. I must find the ones that will make the flesh on my canvas live and quiver. (Pierre-Auguste Renoir) -on drawing the nude...
It's the most important study there is and the most challenging and the most difficult. (Wayne Thiebaud) The best thing is to draw men and women from the nude and thus fix in the memory by constant exercise the muscles of the torso, back, legs, arms and knees, with bones underneath. (Giorgio Vasari)
Wonderful quotes, Gavin! I believe you picked them up from the Resource of Art Quotations. There's a whole category about Nudes. Good quotes great site, Robert!
From my own perspective, I was taught by John Stewart Osborne who was adamant that drawing from the human body was about understanding form. That's virtually all he said in 6 years of studentship with him. Eventually, I understood what he meant. Form - not as 'body', but as pure form. It's difficult to express what it is as few people see it, let alone express it. Sorry, it's not describable. Most of what I see in life drawing or painting is reproduction (though useful of course).
Robert, why is this topic 'strange'?
In the past, artists were primarily all male and the models were primarily female. Why? Because of HOMOPHOBIA. So male artists who also did male nudes were not heterosexual even if they lied and presented themselves as such.
So ALL male nudity was homo-erotic even if the work wasn't particularly erotic. Why? Because we silly stupid humans remain unable to think of eroticism (obscene pornography) as anything but bad.
Sex is one of the most natural human expressions there is.
I'm an abstract artist, but because I'm gay everybody thinks I'm going to be producing GAY ART- read- homoerotic. Oh well.
I did recently expose my one and only 30 years old (literally) life-size, full-frontal anatomically-correct male nude padded relief, at my recent lecture.
I was never able to sell it. Nobody wanted it.
In the present the art-group was less shocked than they would have been 30 years ago when I first produced it. I would have gotten banned from the group- then.
It's stained. A dog pissed on it. Kinda gives it character! It's lived in both a storage space and a garage, and right now stands just behind my refrigerator. I can't toss it as it's become way too valuable... just for existing!
On male verses female nudes, it is more likely because historically, there have been more male artists. One assumes the majority prefered painting women. Trying to remove sexuality in painting nudes is almost impossible; we are sexual beings. Some artists present erotic figures while others, the asexual classical figure. Many object to the former but are perfectly at ease with the latter. It is a fine line and is as much in the mind of the viewer as the intent of the artist.
I don't know why I have nothing but admiration for Old Masters' nudes, Thomas Eakins, or even Vargas, but yet bristle at others. Go figure ... excuse the pun.
I'd like to hear from some models.
The most puritan societies presently are Islamic countries, followed by the North America. Nowhere else is nakedness judged strongly by the society.
Some years ago I conducted life-drawing classes in Melbourne. After one of these sessions I entered a rather crowded elevator in a busy department store and was greeted by someone at the back who said, " Don't you say hello to your friends Jim ". When I saw who it was I absent-mindedly responded with, " Oh, I didn't recognize you with your clothes on ". Some of the passengers were highly amused whilst others appeared horrified. I thought about explaining but only briefly.
I forgot to add the link to Kenneth Clark's chapter (The Alternative Tradition) in his book on the Nude. it is http://idliketocallyourattentionto.blogspot.com/2007/04/kenneth-clarks-study-in-ideal-form.html
At one time I was taking a figure sculpting class and a drawing class. In sculpting it seemed we took a zillion measurements. In spite of that my clay figures never seemed very "human". My teacher made the wise comment: "Art occurs between the measurements."
As an art dealer I could care less what an artists credentials are. Its all about the work and how professional they are.
Some professions need those titles added to their names like medicine, dentistry and other professions with the corresponding diplomas or certificates stating that they are indeed qualified for the service they render. I am not sure for artists if titles will speak for the pictures they produce. The finished pictures speak for themselves and the viewers choose what appeals to them. Some artists never went to art school or have earned certificates to show except for their work. Artistic ability is instinctive and a God given talent. They have the ability to see beyond what is obvious and interpreting what they see in their own on paper, canvas or what ever media available to them. Perhaps those letters give a sense of prestige and belonging that give a distinction of importance. But who bothers to check those letters?
Drawing from the nude is such an essential part of developing as an artist. The nude figure is the ultimate yardstick if you like, for attempting to capture reality in 2D. We all know just how a human being looks, how a person moves, what the feeling of weight is like ect and can judge in an instant if an artist has captured all the elements of humaness in a drawing. It should never be alowed to "go out of fashion" or be considered outmoded. It would be like a mechanic not needing to learn how the engine works!
Incompetent painters need letters and can get them. Competent painters don't need letters but are given them.
I think Shane Conant's quote is wonderful "Modern pessimism denies the intrinsic beauty and replaces it with a subjective vision that cares little for the objective truth. In this thought the figure whether nude or clothed loses its form by putting more value on its symbolism than its actual form. That's when you need a Rembrandt to step in a remind us of the value of content in its relation to form and beauty!" So true! It is about the beauty of the human figure. I've just given up on doing evening class life drawing classes primarily because in the sale we're allowed to hold at the end of the year, they just don't sell. However the surprising positivity of all these comments is making me think twice. For me, the human face and figure is a million times more interesting than landscape to draw or paint (maybe because I live in a country where the sun doesn't shine much!). There is just something about it...
I'm just running off to teach an Intro to (nude) Figure Drawing Class aka 'learning to draw the most complex grouping of forms - so if we can do this, we can draw anything"
I am very interested in this discussion
When I was in art school I looked forward to drawing nudes. Male or Female it didn't matter. What I remember is the attention to contour lines and the flow of my pencil moving as I focused on the form. I loved to draw this way. I didn't like that this practice would stop there in the drawing room. In studio I would go back to my figure drawings and add my own flare or additional touches. I still have many of my favorite nude portraits with me hidden away in storage. Isn't that a shame. Some I like so much I would like to exhibit them but not sure how they will be received. Living in Winnipeg I haven't seen exhibits with nudes. Although people I know still go to life figure drawing classes. What happens to all the beautiful nude drawings that people produce.
Artists producing images of the male nude may be more common than a lot of people think. See the web-site www.theartofman.net for a quarterly publication featuring people who work with the male image. Also check out their publication "100 Artists of the Male Figure." (Everything is also available on Amazon.)
When I went to college I graduated with a BFA in figure drawing...it was special major I was allowed to create for myself. Gradually my drawings became more and more abstract until the figure was virtually unrecognizable. That was 1970. I mostly didn't paint or draw after that. Seventeen years ago I became a massage therapist and "connected" to the human body again. Four years ago I started to paint again. Now my images are more realistic and I can't really do an abstract figure. I've tried to go back to the way I worked, and it doesn't work for me at all now.
It was weird to be in massage school learning all the muscles and going back to art school in my mind when I had virtually the same lessons! They stopped teaching anatomy a year or two after that in art school. That was the wild '60's for you! New directions, different emphasis.
I sell some of my paintings and do reasonably well with getting portrait commissions. I've tried doing landscapes that are salable, but they just come out terribly.
I guess this post is all over the place. But wow, I just discovered this site and it looks like a gem!
Oh, yes, I recently was one of five or six artists who participated in a "live draw" session in Rochester, NY. We had four models posing simultaneouslythree male and one femaleand the public was invited to come and watch us. The models' poses varied from one minute to twenty. A great experience.
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I've managed a life drawing group in Atlanta for over a year and find variety--male/female, old/young, beautiful/not, and even pregnancy bring compliments and greater attendence to our sessions.
All bodies are beautiful and bless all models who share them.
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Peer Court at BBHS, Oct 21!
Students needing community service, or those interested in the law and/or the legal profession, should plan to stay after school on Tuesday, October 21, 2 p.m. for Peer Court here at Back Bay. A real ...more
Oct. 16: Back to School and ELAC
Back to School Night has been rescheduled to Thursday, October 16th, 6:30 p.m. - 8:00 p.m. Parents AND students are asked to attend. Meet the principal and staff, tour the school, learn about college and career opportunities, and more. And students may earn community service hours by completing their Passport to Success. There will also be an ELAC (English learner advisory committee) at 5:15 p.m., just prior to Back to School Night. Students and parents are invited to attend.
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NEW Bell Schedule for 2014-15!
We have a NEW bell schedule! Please note the changes, including the addition of a nutrition break and the day now ending at 2:00 p.m. instead of 1:57 p.m.
Period 1, 8:30 - 9:25 a.m.
Period 2, 9:28 - 10:23 a.m.
Nutrition, 10:23-10:33 a.m.
Period 3, 10:36-11:31 a.m.
Period 4, 11:34 a.m. - 12:29 p.m.
Lunch, 12:29 p.m. - 1:02 p.m.
Period 5, 1:05 p.m. - 2:00 p.m.
Is Back Bay a Good "Fit" for You/Your Student?
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No Bullying - Anonymous Tips
If you or someone you know is being bullied, please tell a staff member. If you prefer to remain anonymous, you may drop a note in the "bully box" in the front office or send an email to email@example.com. Every student is entitled to a safe school environment free from discrimination, harassment, intimidation, and bullying. The district's policy on bullying may be accessed by clicking here http://web.nmusd.us/cms/page_view?d=x&piid=&vpid=1314190537575 .
Minimum Wednesdays
Once a month there will be a minimum day at Back Bay, always on a Wednesday. 1st period begins at 8:30 a.m. (same as every day), but students will be released during lunch (11:45 a.m.) or earlier if ...more
Community Service!?!?
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Alameda, CA (SportsNetwork.com) - The Oakland Raiders acquired quarterback Matt Schaub from the Houston Texans Friday in exchange for a selection in the upcoming NFL Draft.
Oakland is scheduled to have a pick in the top five and selecting a quarterback was one of its top priorities. The Raiders may not have to use that selection on a signal-caller now.
Terrelle Pryor, Matt McGloin and Trent Edwards are the other quarterbacks on the Raiders roster.
After leading Houston to back-to-back AFC South Division titles in 2011 and 2012, Schaub struggled in 2013 before being benched in favor of rookie Case Keenum in October.
The 32-year-old Schaub, who had been the Texans' starter for the last seven seasons, is a two-time Pro Bowler and has surpassed 4,000 yards passing three times in his career.
Houston finished 2013 on a 14-game losing streak and holds the No. 1 pick in the NFL Draft.
The Texans signed former Tennessee Titans quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick to a two-year deal on Thursday.
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The history of Prince William Forest Park is a multi-layered mosaic encompassing the original residents of the area, park administrators, the U. S. military forces, and official Washington including the office of the President. A definitive history of every facet of this rich heritage would be impossible to accomplish within the limited time frame afforded this effort. An overview of Prince William Forest Park's administrative history, detailing several critical periods in the park's development, has been produced through the cooperative efforts of many talented people.
Overall supervision of all research and writing of the park's history was provided by Barry Mackintosh, Bureau Historian for the National Park Service, and Dr. Peter Henriques, Graduate Intern Coordinator of George Mason University. The invaluable experience of these two scholars guiding this research effort helped to insure both its accuracy and relevancy. Marcia Keener, Management Assistant at Prince William Forest Park, initiated this project and assisted in every phase of the effort with critical logistical and moral support.
The location of valuable records critical to this effort was facilitated by staff members of the National Capital Parks. Mrs. Jean Smith located records at the Suitland Record Center that park staff believed to be lost. Mr. Joseph Ronsisvalle introduced this researcher to the vast stores of information to be found at the Cartographic Center of the National Archives on South Picket Street in Alexandria, Virginia.
Every member of the Prince William Park staff with whom I came in contact took an active interest in this history, often providing leads to key persons connected to the park for oral interviews. Kelvin Fields especially, extended his help on his own time to act as a bridge between this researcher and "old timers" in the black community who provided valuable eyewitness accounts of the park's early construction. Mrs. Laura Hobbs, secretary to the superintendent, patiently answered every woeful plea for help as she unraveled the mysteries of the park's CPT in the production phase of this effort. Finish typing was expertly handled by Mary E. Reed, of Triangle, Virginia.
It would be impossible to thank everyone who offered assistance on this project. However, many unknown staff persons at the Library of Congress, the National Archives, the Prince William County School Board, and the Bureau of Docks and Yards at the Washington Navy Yard, gave freely of their time to assist in locating all the source material for this history. While just doing their jobs, these individuals helped to spur me on.
Finally, Superintendent Robert L. Harney of Prince William Forest Park was always available to act as coach and friend underscoring the importance of this effort and giving me ready admittance to a corps of unique and talented individuals on the park staff.
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I have not personally had a green peel, but worked at a Medical Spa for a year, and saw probably 50 clients get the herbal green peel. We recommended a series of three treatments, a month apart. I did not see one customer that was happy with their results, and most of them said the pain was extreme. Several different estheticians performed the peels, so I don't think the problem was with the technician, but with the peel itself. It's also an expensive treatment, and I didn't see anyone with improved acne scars, hyperpigmentation, or overall improvement in their skin.
Painful, Expensive, and Doesn't Give Good Results
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I would have to agree. It would be helpfull to know what green peel it was, because there are a lot of expensive and even cheep ones that are rip off's of the original Green Peel by Dr. Christine Schrammek. Which I might add is not a chemical peel so will not leave burns on any skin, it is made from 100% natural herbs and in the 40 years it has been going there are no reported cases of damage caused by the peel. What where you required to do and not do after the procedure and how was the post treatment? I would say you got a bad case of crap therapist. I feel for you.
I had a Green Peel on October 2, 2008 at the cost of $650. The results were horrific. On Oct. 6, I had to go to the emergency room because when I woke up that morning, I had chemical burns on my cheeks, from the peel. The spa where I had the peel, was very uncooperative and did not want to issue a refund. They gave me makeup to cover burns!!! Unreal! I wanted to file a formal complaint, and I needed their license number, and they would not provide me with it. I called the police, and they made the technician give me the information.They lied to me and told me I would look presentable in 5 days, just like the brochure says. But when the police arrived, they told the police 2 to 3 weeks. The police officer pointed to the brochure, and said,"why does that say new skin in 5 days"? I had to take off of work for a week because of the burns alone. I am now in the process of taking them to court, and I have pictures, emergency room reports, and the lies in the brochure to help my case. I am totally disappointed, and I'd rather be told the truth, than mislead.
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Diego Forlan has a Starscore of 336,543 and is No.4778 today on the Global social media chart
With a total of 2,307,480 YouTube views, 4,380,713 Twitter followers and 5,558,646 Facebook fans. Today Diego Forlan did not gain any YouTube views, gained 1,406 Twitter followers and gained 1,454 Facebook fans. His social media ranking has moved down 37 places in the daily Allstar players Chart to no.170 and remains at no.38 in the all time Allstar players Chart.
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Diego Forlán Corazzo (Spanish pronunciation: [?dje?o fo??lan]; born 19 May 1979) is a Uruguayan footballer who plays as a forward for Cerezo Osaka and the Uruguayan national team. He is a two-time winner of both the Pichichi Trophy and the European Golden Shoe, and also received the Golden Ball as the best player at the 2010 World Cup.Forlán was born into a family of footballers – his father Pablo having played for São Paulo (1970–1975) and Uruguay in the 1966 and 1974 World Cups and his maternal grandfather, Juan Carlos Corazzo, for Independiente in Argentina.Forlán joined Independiente himself after rising through their youth team, and after a successful four-year spell, he signed for Manchester United of England. His form for United was not as successful as at Independiente, although he won the Premier League in 2002–03 and the FA Cup in 2003–04. In the summer of 2004, he moved on to Spanish side Villarreal.In his first season in Spanish football with Villarreal, Forlán scored 25 league goals and won the Pichichi Trophy. After two more successful seasons with Villarreal, Forlán joined Atlético Madrid, where he once again became the league's top scorer, and became the first player to win the Pichichi Trophy twice since Ronaldo achieved this feat in the 2003–04 season. Forlán scored in Atlético's 2010 Europa League final victory against Fulham. In 2011, he joined Internazionale of Italy before moving to Internacional in 2012.Forlán also has a successful international career, having scored record 33 times for his country since his 2002 debut. He scored once at the 2002 World Cup in South Korea and Japan. He was the joint top scorer by scoring five times at the 2010 World Cup, in which he scored twice against the host nation South Africa, once against Ghana in the quarter-finals, once against the Netherlands in the semi-finals and once against Germany in the third place play-off. Despite being the joint top scorer in the tournament, Forlán did not receive an award for his goals due to tiebreakers. Forlán was however recognised with the Golden Ball award, given to the best player at the tournament.On 12 July 2011, at the 2011 Copa América in Argentina, Forlán earned his 79th international cap, against Mexico, breaking the record held by former goalkeeper Rodolfo Rodríguez since 1986. On 20 June 2013, in a match against Nigeria at the 2013 Confederations Cup, he became the first Uruguayan to win 100 caps. Forlán was Uruguay's all-time leading top scorer at international level until Luis Suárez overtook him on 23 June 2013.


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What if they put me in Slytherin? o_O
hahaha… OMG… :D
The link for the video HERE. x
Yes. I received a lot of messages about this. But I'm not angry… I just don't understand why you guys are complaining about the Ravenclaw crest to me. I didn't create this crest and I don't know who did it… but it's the official crest for the movies… if you are in doubt, you can check it HERE.
Besides, JKR approved this crest… so, it's not my fault. Feel free to send e-mails to Warner/JKR asking why they put a raven and not an eagle in the crest.
But I have to say… it's bloody weird have an eagle as a symbol when the name is RAVENclaw. Anyway… it's not my book… x


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A couple of people pinged me and ask me why I am defending NUS in this case, wasn't I against NUS in the first place?
Let me make this clear, I am not against anyone (Oh wait, I'm against people with PhD's in entrepreneurship despite not having started companies before. Yup, mainly them.). I am against dumb policies. I am against the dumb things that NUS sometimes does, which is why I regularly blog about stuff against them, such as my education simply being one of regurgitation. But they did no wrong this time. Entrepreneurship is NOT their core business. Their core business is pushing the limits of what mankind knows, and passing that knowledge on (whether they are doing a good job at it is questionable though).
So yea, just to make things clear, I am not against NUS, or SoC.
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South Lake Tahoe Home Rental-Casa Davalos
South Lake Tahoe Home Rental-Casa Davalos
"Casa Davalos"….Montgomery Estates upscale vacation rental home! This impeccable mountain home features 4 bedrooms, 3 baths, huge great room and a large gourmet kitchen. Have a ball in the downstairs Game/Family room complete with a large Foosball table or soak in the bubbly and relaxing hot tub!.Situated in one of Lake Tahoe's most desireable areas, the "Casa Davalos" is for the discriminating vacation renter. Sleeping up to 12 ,steps to hundreds of miles of National Forest and minutes to World Class ski/boarding, restaurants, casinos and Tahoe's famous white sand beaches "Casa Davalos" may have everything you need for your next Lake Tahoe vacation!
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Lake Tahoe Weather-El Nino Winter?
The squirrels have gone absolutely crazy eating and actually cutting pine cones from the trees in preparation for a HUGE South Lake Tahoe winter? Only time will tell but there are actual scientific indications for a big winter namely our old friend "El Nino" The El Nino is expected to strengthen later this fall and become a full fledged El Nino by mid winter.
El Nino does not always foretell a big winter but in a majority of cases winter of note are associated with an El Nino event.
Noteable El Nino winter from the past have been 1982-83; 1968-69; 2004-05; 1997-98. It is worth noting that the BIG winter of 1951-52 was not an strong El Nino but there have been some comparisons to that epic winter and how this El Nino is beginning and is forecast to locate itself. Maybe I need to bring in more firewood and get the hurricane lamps ready!
I have been trying to do further historic research an winter such as 1846-47 which of course was the winter the Donner Party was trapped in the Sierra's and endured incredible hardships. That winter the snow was estimated at Donner lake to be over 22 feet deep! The estimates at Donner Summit were over 40 feet! Was that an El Nino year? I am checking.
Mountain Retreat -The Tahoe Tree House
Mountain Retreat -The Tahoe Tree House
Fabulous Lake Tahoe mountain retreat! All the bells and whistles…Hot Tub, high speed internet, gorgeous furnishings,huge relaxing decks, tons of privacy and "Old Tahoe" charm to boot. The Tahoe Tree House is situated in one of South Lake Tahoe's favorite areas and is literally minutes to Heavenly, Sierra, Kirkwood and all of South Shore famous attractions including pristine beaches, marinas, hiking and casinos! The famous "Mr. Toads" mountain bike trail is minutes away as well.
During winter months the huge parcel becomes a mecca for sledding as the home has a natural sled hill right from the cabin. Or, walk a block down the street and step into miles and miles of National Forest perfect for snow shoeing, cross-country skiing and nearby the National Forest allows snowmobiles. The trail system is extensive (call for info 866-407-0245 on any of these activities…we know the ropes!)
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March 14-16, 2014, RESHAPED HEARTS IN CHRIST
Speaker: Rev. Candie Blankman
Location: Mary & Joseph Retreat Center, Palos Verdes
WOMEN'S RETREAT BROCHURE (PDF) CLICK to OPEN
Questions? Email Darrylin Girvin
Introduction: Born and raised in Minnesota now gratefully settled in Southern California. Wife, mom, restaurant manager, public school teacher, bible teacher, speaker, now pastor and beginning writer and painter. Candie is on staff at San Clemente Presbyterian Church.
Bragging rights: Married 35 years and have three great children soon all three to be married to three great people.
Education: Bemidji State University, 1978 – 1981
Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, 1993 – 1996
A WORD ABOUT OUR RETREAT: Our hearts can be shaped by many factors. Family of origin, profession, accomplishments, and suffering. But the most powerful shaper of hearts is the truth about who we are. The story of Philemon and Onesimus helps us get to the root of who we really are—who we are in Christ—and provides instruction for living it out and influencing others along the way.