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i'm waiting for the approx 7×9 apple if the ever bring it out. if not, i will continue with my razor and portable when i travel.
Well first off the Pre cost $299 out the door plus tax. You can get a iphone 3G 8GB for $99 that will do everything the pre does only better come June 17th. As far as a 3G upgrade costing $399 for folks who just bought one is just business, ATT is in the business of making money. I will sell my 3G on ebay for $300+ and get a 3GS for $99 Net
I am a day one 2G and day one 3G owner and I don't like the higher upgrade price for an EXISTING CUSTOMER. The voice and data options have never been good. I believe AT&T is trying to leverage the iPhone moniker for their benefit. This will hurt Apples sales forecast and ultimately end their exclusivity deal. That is the only pleasure I can take in this news, one day soon, the iPhone will be on other carriers with better voice and data plans.
I'm an existing customer and would have considered $199, no way on the $399
I could have waited a month and got the list price of $299 for the 3GS 32GB upgrade. But, I chose to upgrade now so I can enjoy the new features immediately. Like "t' above, I can make up the difference by selling my 3G 16GB on eBay. Early adopters do these things, don't they?
Why are loyal iPhone owners(3G me), who wish to upgrade getting shoved aside? Wake up Apple, we are your customers too.
As a phone, 3G is just fine, no need to upgrade.
Don't care about the slower 3.6 Mhz theoretical download, 1.4 actual download speed? 3G is fine.
To take advantage of ATT's new 7.2 theoretical, 3.4 actual download speed due later this year? 3GS.
For voice-calling and voice control of iPod functions, 3GS.
For better still shots, video shoots, video editing, 3GS.
For the ability to find a lost phone, wipe it clean remotely, 3GS.
For MMS (not ATT), tethering (not ATT), 3GS.
For higher performance, 3GS.
iPhone has finally caught up with the rest of the world in the 3GS.
There is NO WAY I will go out and buy a 3GS as an existing AT&T subscriber. That's a kick in the …..
I had the 2G and the 3G but to have to smack down 299 plus another 200 making it 499 to get the phone just because I am a loyal customer??! I think that is a real rip off. I like the bigger size but I will wait a while until AT&T gets their head out of their *** and figures out their loyal customers pay their bills.
50,000 applications on the iPhone. How many on the Pre?
I want the Palm Pre but only after more apps start to show up. SDK should be out NOW for all software developers.
The IPhone is clearly the choice but I will not pay the extra $30/mo for the data plan. I would pay an extra $100 for the phone and no data plan. As a consequence I would add no strain to ATT undercapacity netwark and ATT would get me to switch from Verizon even though it is a better cell network. Unfortunately Mr dela Vega does not understand the potential impact.
The iPhone 3gs price is only attractive if you are not an existing iPhone 3g user at AT&T. Depending on how well it sells, you may see AT&T come out with a better offer, especially closer to Xmas, I'd wait if you really don't want to pay $400+.
In regard to the Palm Pre, it's one slick device. The keyboard is a little small, but it runs circles around the iPhone for those of us who text/email a lot. Web browsing is smooth, especially the tab/page capability. Recall that Palm has been about 5 yrs ahead of the pack in handheld functionality. The Treo could do everything the iPhone does now back in 2004, the interface was just not as slick and it didn't have the "coolness" factor that Apple provides. The biggest downside is the network, Sprint just doesn't have the coverage that the others do. The price has to be lower or no one would consider it. I'd wait for the Verizon version.
HANDS DOWN i'll be getting the Pre – touting that the $99 3G does everything the pre does is beyond ridiculous. Multitasking for one (umm, 3GS doesnt even do this – dont claim native apps BS), and the OS is a huge attraction for me, but money talks and here's what's up:
Family plan for me and my wife:
Att – 159.99 / month for:
Unlimited data
1400 min (with rollover)
200 sms each (probably wont be enough – add $10 each for 1500sms – ie $480 more / 2 years)
Sprint – $129.99 / month for:
Unlimited data
1500 minutes – 7pm weekends
UNLIMITED TEXT msg
Sprint TV
Sprint Nav – turn by turn
Add to all this that Mobile me (Apple's contact/calendar sync) costs $149 / YEAR shared, and im saving $920 over two years – and that's with ONLY 200sms each/month, and extra cost for nav.
Folks, $1000-$1500 is A LOT of money however you cut it, and with the attractive Pre and pricing, im sold to (in this case) the lowest bidder.
I have a 1 gen iPhone, so I qualify for the cheaper price. But if I upgrade I lose my $20 a month unlimited data plan + 200 text messages. So the monthly cost goes up. This is the thing holding me back from the upgrade.
It's not correct to say that "But existing AT&T customers don't qualify for the introductory price, including those who bought the previous iPhone 3G model in the past year. " I am an existing customer with a few weeks left on my original iPhone contract, and I qualified for the lower price.
I sold my iPhone 2G on eBay for $450 and bought the iPhone 3G for $199. Having $250 left over was a pleasant surprise, my original iPhone to me was fully depreciated and now it generated income for me. I have never owned any device like that ever.
This isn't rocket science. Since I bought my first iPhone I have been completely liberated from being tied to a home computer. There is no measure of the value I have gained from this device. It is akin to the original arguments against buying a computer "it's just a pricey calculator to balance your checkbook:". These are very narrow-minded views of a technological revolution that completely changes human life.
$499 – $250 leaves me a cost of $249 to upgrade. After I sell my iPhone 3G i may recoup all or more of that cost. Plus my birthday is coming up. Your Calculus may not have taken the coefficient of eBay and universal Birthday constant into account!
For those complaining about the higher "existing customer" cost, what do you expect? You signed a 2-YEAR contract: ONE subsidy every 2 years. Plain and simple. The phone is costing AT&T $600, and you're getting it for $200. You surely can't expect AT&T to gift you $400 every time a new iPhone comes out? Get serious.
I am about fed up with AT&T's nickle and diming on their plans. It's really absurd that they have a monopoly, and thus, no incentive to adjust their pricing. I've had the iphone since version 1 and am seriously considering quitting ATT when my contract is up. Love the phone, don't like being shackled to ATT.
I don't have an iPhone but I just reserved mine for pickup on June 19th. 32GB for 299.
I think the upgrade prices look very fair, as last year's iPhone 3G was subsidized by AT&T to the tune of $350-400 each. All carriers force higher prices on those who have subsidized phones (not just iPhone) who upgrade early, so I really don't see what the whining is all about. (btw, All owners of the original iPhone are eligible for the fully subsidized 199/299 prices.)
I bought the original iPhone on day one, got back $100 from Apple and another $100 from Amex. I sold it for $300 and bought the new 3G so basically the first two years of using the phone put me out $100 for the device. As for carrier charges, I used to be on t-mobile with a family plan and yes it is true the data was $10/month cheaper but the family unlimited texting wasn't avaible on t-mobile, and all in all it is not really believable to me that AT&T is "more expensive than other carriers."
As for the current upgrade, here is the kicker. The AT&T and Apple sites both say i will be eligible July 17, 2009 for the new 3GS $199 upgrade, only one year after I bought the 3G. I know some people are claiming they will have to wait longer, so I don't know why AT&T is being so nice to me but I'm not complaining. So I suggest people carefully check their AT&T wireless account to see how they qualify, and not base their judgement on what they are reading. In any case, my gf has the original iPhone so she has been eligible for an upgrade for quite a long time, so I can always bequeth her my 3G in case there is some mistake.
I used to love Palm devices but no way am I going back. The iPhone is by far the most useful electronic device I have ever owned both for personal and business uses. I don't think a waking hour goes by where I don't use my iPhone for something or another. The 3GS upgrade is incremental but has many useful and interesting features, particularly the speed bump. Plus, of all the US phone carriers, Sprint is the most evil of them all, so no way will I ever do business with them again.
In short, I am upgrading!
I have the G3 and G2 and I would not upgrade. The 8 Gig is more than enough for the average phone user. Most Iphone users don't store pictures on their phone and only selected music, not their entire music collection.
It's hype……the Iphone is a very good device but over priced. AT&T rips people off because of their exclusive contract with Apple. When people believe the hype, they start paying more per month on their cell phone bill then they do on a car note.
I was using an iphone at work and was pondering on getting one for myself but being on sprint I decided to get Palm Pre since it came out much cheaper on monthly basis. I have to say after playing with the Pre for a couple of days I doubt I would ever look at another iphone again. Sure hard drive space is more on iphone but I don't care much about putting videos on my phone.
I have been eligible for my AT&T upgrade since mid-May (waited for the new iphone announcement), so I am eligible for the lower price. I am not chatty on the phone- fewer minutes needed on my AT&T plan. So all in all I am basically paying the equivalent of the Sprint plan. I've ordered my iphone, and anxiously await June 23rd for the delivery, hopefully my taped together free-with-your-plan phone holds out that long.
For those of you talking about selling your iPhone 3G on eBay for gobs of money, why would I pay you so much money for your iPhone 3G when a new 3G phone cost me $99 right now? What am I missing?
I bought the original right when it came out now my 2 year contract is basically up (Currently ~70$/month for 200 sms, unlimited data, and the lowest rate plan). The cost, in terms of either the price of the new HW + non-material increase in the monthly cost + the risk of the NEW 2 year contract OR the price difference of the 'No Commitment' version are certainly not worth the incremental upgrade of the technology.
I am having a really hard time justifying another 2 year contract in light of all the new competing mobile technologies that have emerged very recently.
Woops my math was a bit off. I meant to say I got $400 for my original phone and was $200 out for the first two years.
I love my iPhone 3G, but no way will I pay an unsubsidized price for the 3GS. I'll wait until September, when I can buy one for $299. I'll be curious during this period as to whether 3.0 will be enough for me, or I'll still want to buy the 3GS. Time will tell.
@H 1:45Pm…….Cause they only sell $99 phones in the US…the rest of the world pays like $800+ for them……So, much of whats sold on Ebay ends up on the gray market in other countries.
I'm an existing iPhone 3G owner who WAS excited about the new iPhone 3G S, that is until I learned the pricing structure AT&T is giving to current customers. I won't even think about upgrading now. I have a year on my contract so I will honor that and then it's Bye Bye AT&T. I'll admit that I think the iPhone is one of the best, if not the best smart phone out there (depends on the use), but there are many new phones/plans out there that can compete. I'll have to see what's available come June 2010.
Might as well wait for a couple of years until my existing phone is simply unusable. At that time, probably Apple or whoever the industry leader is, would have a much trendier, much more feature rich phone, which would make the 3GS look like a Dinosaur. So, no I will not upgrade.
Note that the higher price does not apply to current customers of AT&T who own the original iPhone. I purchased my phone in Dec. 2007, and didn't fall for the rush to upgrade to the 3G in June 2008, seeing as my phone was only 6 months old and I figured I could just wait it out until the next, even better, upgrade. I was even hesitant to buy a new one this time around- until I dropped my phone a few weeks ago one and it hasn't been working properly since. I just ordered the 32MG phone online and paid $299, no issues at all.
I'll be hanging on to this one through the next round of upgrades, too. Anyone who needs to upgrade a phone every year deserves to pay a "stupid tax"
I imagine the prices 3Gs fetch on eBay will come down now that this announcement has been made, but as of yesterday I could still sell my 1st gen in good condition for about $150. As of now DH and I are both planning to upgrade our 1st gens to the new 3GS when they are available.
Seriously, all you cry babies. Pull up your panties. AT&T subsidized the price on the 3g when you bought it. You signed a 2 year contract to be eligable for the subsidized price. It has only been one year. AT&T is still offering an early upgrade of $200 off the full price. I am a current 3g owner and have already pre-ordered my 3gs through Apple. No phone comes close to this awesome device. 100% worth every penny!
I ordered my iphone 3g s today was alittle dissapointedn the new phone but let's face it other than cosmetics it was a pretty descent upgrade double memory double speed and a few other things like video capabilities and editing which is great but people are still tLking about the pre well no doubt the pre is a great phone but let's face it it will never have the app database like the iPhone not even close and this is what makes the iPhone a step above also people have been talking wow a 1 megPixel upgrade well being a hobbyist photographer the thing is you have to accomadate your lense if not then it's just a waste so they could have added 5 mega pixels or more but with no better pic qaulity than 3 because of the lense
I too sold my iPhone 2G at eBay for $400+ when I upgraded to 3G now I have these options:
1. sell my 16gb 3G at eBay for whatever going price (I've seen ebay prices as high as $888 when I did a search for sold iPhone 3G just now). This alone justifies buying an iPhone because you can always sell it and make a profit.
2. wait until january 2010 when I become eligible for the $299 32gb 3GS pricing. In the meantime, be happy with the 3.0 software update.
I was a Treo 650 user before buying the iPhone 2G the first month it came out, I remember how the iphone made all other phones clunky when compared to usability, especially when it comes to surfing the web.
Very disappointing indeed. Apart from feeling let down, I am not going to do any early upgrade of my 3G 16GB iPhone anytime soon. I am not a very happy customer of AT&T either, because of the hefty monthly bills, compared to other service providers I am with (for my other lines). Seriously, both Apple and AT&T represent the apogee of corporate greed. But hey… Aren't we suckers!
This is absolutely outrageous — Apple/ATT is, in a sense, penalizing loyal Apple/ATT customers by saying "you believed in us last year and bought the iphone 3G — tough — you have to pay $700 to get the new faster version, while a person off the street, who presumably did NOT choose to come into the iphone fold from the beginning, can buy the same phone for $299." This is a a total diss for those who went out on a limb to support the product from the beginning. I expect major backlash.
I have the 3G 16-gig phone and am under contract. I really like the phone and look forward to the 3.0 update. No way it is worthy paying $499 for the new hardware. Maybe I go for it when the contract is up in 15 months.
I am existing 3G owner. My daughter has 3G. My son has original.
I will upgrade to 3G S and give my son 3G and sell the original. But will have to sell the original for cheap probably less than $80 since new one sells for $99.
In my opinion, iPhone sets the standard and no phone is even close not the Pre, the Storm or anything else on the planet.
But I am surprised that the new iPhone does not multitask-a distinct advantage the Pre has.
Regarding the number of apps, I'm pretty sure I read that the Pre supports all of the legacy Palm apps that are out there (for what it's worth). Also, I don't know that it's accurate to say for mgbh to say Sprint's coverage is worse than ATT and Verizon. I know that Sprint's data coverage is actually much more robust than ATT's.
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Don't whine to Apple about the cost to upgrade, that's all on AT&T. And you really can't blame them. They subsidised your 3G purchase big time when you bought in exchange for a 2-year commitment. Why should they do so again when you have at least a year to go?
My guess is that once you are inside of 6 months left on the contract they would upgrade you for the regular cost for the 2 year extension. That's what they did when my wife got her 3G last fall even though her current 2-year contract wasn't up for about 6 months (of course we had to upgrade the service, so it was worth it for AT&T).
AT&T and APPLE must be out of their minds to charge customers that amount of money for a swap device regardless of its upgrades. Rather work out a deal to return old devices to Apple and get a better deal for the new Iphone 3GS would be favorable by many new and old customers. In turn it would also help recycling devices and lowering costs in the end run.
Now, I own an Iphone 3G 16GB with 2.2.1 software and it is just fine for me, its software has been altered and tweaked more then a housewife of 30 years. No pun intended…
I got my small Sony video pocket cam with me when I need it and a GPS in my car. I already shelled out almost $400.00 with a 2 year agreement for my original Iphone 3G 16GB, and after doing that I alone calculated recently that I have spent over $800 on Apps from the apps store since its conception and I get no discounts for a swap modal? Are you kidding me APPLE, AT&T. You greedy people. Providing services to customers over a long period of time is what makes a loyal customer. It's all about the dollar at the end of the day. Despite AT&T's network issues that all of us endured over the years, Massive Apple updates to deal with that make your product buggy all the time. Regardless of these added features, its amazing that they introduce these features as "new" when my old Nokia 6600 release date ALMOST A DECADE AGO; It had Video, it had copy cut and paste, dumb little "DUH" features I liked to call them that should have been on the product come 1G release day, were getting them now and they call it new. Yeah new to you greedy people who planned this in your board meeting DAY 1. I guess you think were stupid and that people in your meetings don't talk.
Point and case and I recommend the public speak out on this and boycott.
DO NOT GET THE NEW IPHONE 3GS NOR THE 3.0 UPGRADED OPERATING SYSTEM SOFTWARE. STICK WITH YOUR PREV MODAL OR GRAB A 3G REGULAR IF YOU'RE A 1 G USER for 99 bucks.
Believe it or not but I just got off the phone with AT&T. Not only are they not even ready to give me one new modal, they told me to call back in two weeks just for information on the subject of a new modal, Oh and FYI they want previous Iphone users to upgrade to 3.0 and pay for the operating system upgrade as well should we decide to not get the new modal but still want the benefits of the operating system software and its features which still isn't clear that will work with prev Gen Iphone.
Isn't that some Horse Dung?
We buy it for them, we play with it, we test it for them, we click yes to send them our devices feedback button to improve there product, now they want us pay for updates too? SHAMEFULL!!! So basically they made us with all there cool mind blowing adds purchase the product, test it for them every way we can think of, endure moronic issues on the network that THEY chose to go with and now they are not even asking they are telling us that here is the product, teasing us, You want it? Buy it at almost full price like you did last time. And if you don't but want 3.0 buy that too. Oh and guess what else, want an update to your apps on the app store? Pay for that update too…
My advise, teach these greedy people a lesson on a consumer level. BOYCOTT!!!! We made apple Iphone what it is today as did all the developers!!!
Make them eat the containers of 3GS modals they have going out and have some for desert too.
I don't blame much on AT&T. They got sucked into this deal with a no way back solution for them which are costing them massive amounts of money upfront for network upgrades. But still there should be a deal between the two companies to support one another in the process being that it takes 2 companies to deliver this product as well as the entire Iphone world including 3rd party developers to move along its continuance.
Greed does become the APPLE logo; if they had it there way they would make real apples white too. You Proprietary Sons of *&*()_&*&_
Come to think of it. I'm gona sue them for this too…
H: You would pay more than $99 to buy off EBay because you get the phone without a contract. Plus, you might (I don't know) be able to use the phone with a regular ATT data plan, which unlike the iPhone plan you get when you buy from ATT includes text messaging (that's what I have for my ATT Blackberry).
Pre? IPhone? Why take one of these over a Blackberry Curve?
Sorry, but the actual cost of Sprint's Simply Everything plan is 69.99 a month for unlimited data, texting and 450 minutes. See here – http://preinsiders.com/home/2009/06/09/smartphone-showdown-the-palm-pre-vs-iphone-3g-s/
Bit of a comprehensive breakdown as well as a T chart (thanks to Technoligizer.com!)
I am a ATT customer whose contract is expiring in a month I pay a big amount just for 450 mins. sprints plan seems very attractive and PALM phone seems to be better than I phone in many ways,,,I will simply go with PALM PRE
It is not true that all existing AT&T customers have to pay the higher prices for the iPhone 3G s; only those whose contracts do not yet allow them to buy a phone at a subsidized price are affected. And that applies to all phones, not just the iPhone. Once they pass that point in their contract, they can buy at the subsidized price.
I own an iPhone 3G, and am strongly considering upgrading to the 3G s in mid December, when I become so eligible. However, I may wait until June 2010 for the next model after the 3G s, because it would be only another six months.
No, I am not an early adopter of anything that can't be eaten.
Early adopters pay for the R&D burden.
The exception would be if a client required that I purchase the technology which I will then charge back to the client.
Got the 16-gig 3G on the first day last year; pre-ordered the 32-gig 3G S this year. Sure, I'm not eligible for an upgrade yet, so I'm paying an additional $200 for the 3G S, but I'm giving my 3G (with the new software) to a family member. Everyone is happy and excited to get their new phones. Moving to a Pre or a Blackberry Curve is not even an option in my mind.
I've researched all the plans available and Sprint is the best at $99 for everything – meaning you don't have to worry about minutes or texting or internet usage. If you want 450 minutes with unlimited texting and data, that will cost you $70. I have Sprint and had no problems with their coverage. I can only vouge for the west coast as I travel from Seattle to San Diego and as far east as Albuquerque and have no problems with using my phone. I've used my phone with no problems on a recent trip to Virginia and Florida recently. Their internet access is pretty good. There will always be quirks depending on where you live however. I would highly recommend trying Sprint for your 30 days if you are at that crossroad. If you hate it..fair enough and return your phone and get out. But what else have you got to lose besides your money.
I'll probably upgrade in Jan – when I'm eligible – and give my current phone to a family member. However, if it looks like a 4G model is coming I may play wait and see. My AT&T reception is not great in some locations and I may consider going back to Verizon if the iPhone is available there. But in any case, I doubt I would switch phone types. At this point probably ever. There is nothing convincing about the Pre or Android phones that would make me switch. In addition the longer our family owns iPhones the more apps we get tied too. So the app cost replacement is beginning to play a factor – maybe $50 now, but could be $100 in a year.
AT&T should lower the price now before they lose their market share, soon all providers will have a similar phone. Of course they will wait for that time instaed of being proactive. $99 a month unlimited is fair.
I am an original IPhone user and I checked earlier today that I am "eligible" for the price but I still hesitate to upgrade because of my old ATT rate plan $39.99 +$20 unlimited data (except text) and 200 text messages. (I deal with same issue with my DSL and static IP address for no extra cost.) I will break down when my phone finally breaks down — which could be sooner rather than later.
Curious at the vitriol toward Apple about the price. Do people get this upset with RIM when they can't upgrade their blackberries or those poor Palm people who showed up to get a Pre but were told it would cost them $500? It's the phone companies that control the subsidies. You signed a contract for a subsidy. I assume you read the contract. Right? AT&T controls the subsidy, the definition of "current customers" and the plan. If you are mad that you have to pay more to get the new shiny gadget then blame AT&T.
I bought 16 gig iPhone 3G 5 months ago. I think the new 3.0 OS for the iPhone cushions the blow of existing users not being able to upgrade phones. The video and autofocus camera is obviously better, but how much is that worth? Would you use it anyway.
Would someone please explain to the author the difference between calculus and plain old math. There is no calculus required to analyze iPhone pricing plans.
Not buying although I am an Apple/Mac computer user and fan. Three problems with the phone — first it's not very good as a telephone. Friends who have various models report many dropped calls and, in fringe areas, very spotty and poor reception. Having a good reliable phone is primary consideration for me. Second, the monthly charges for the features I would want greatly exceed their value to me. Third and finally, there is the need to have AT&T as one's cellular phone provider. I previously had AT&T as my cellular phone service provider and found the service less than satisfactory and therefore switched to Verizon, which I have found to be significantly better.
The I-Phone is worth the initial price when the first 2G phone came out. You certainly get great value with the new releases. Put your complaints to work against AT&T. Clearly they will miss the boat if tethering and MMS are not available soon. They will have squandered a great chance to be the dominate world phone and data leader.
The iPhone would be worth the high AT&T price — IF IT WORKED AS A VOICE PHONE! Sadly, AT&T's voice service is just awful here in Los Angeles and several other places where I travel for business. It's so bad that I'm forced to keep carrying my old Treo, minus the data services, just to stay connected through Verizon's superior voice service.
AT&T's high rates, delayed system upgrades and apparent inability to provide MMS, tethering and streaming video like its competitors, make me very reluctant to extend my contract.
Unless AT&T improves and soon I may have to abandon the iPhone or certainly jump to another carrier as soon as Apple offers the option.
The IPHONE 3G-S is FREE for existing IPHONE 3G owners!!! GO ON EBAY.. sell your 1 year old IPHONE 3G for anywhere between $300-450 unlocked…. Anyone with a half a brain could do this… Take that $450 and go buy the 16GB IPHONE 3G-S.. or vice versa.
You journalists are idiots… Why are you NOT mentioning that everyone that owns an IPHONE 3G in decent condition owns a device that has a REAL MARKET VALUE of around $400! (unlocked).
@NYPCTECHMAN: The iPhone OS 3.0 upgrade is free. What are you talking about?
I was looking forwards to upgrade & was willing to pay $299 for a 32GB model but I will not pay $499. Fortunately my wife has an old iPhone 2G so I can upgrade that one & swap with her. AT&T will lose a lot of favor with customers that don't have this option. I just hope AT&T doesn't create some problems with my wife!!
I'm a long-time AT&T (Cingular) customer with 3 lines, one of which is off contract now, with a Palm Treo 680 which I could upgrade to the iPhone. But I don't want to spend $400 for a 3GS, and I don't want the "old" iPhone. Also, the iPhone data and voice packages from AT&T are just outrageously over-priced. So instead I ordered a Palm Pre for $199, and I am porting my Treo 680′s line to Sprint, where I will be able to get the "everything data" package with the Pre for $60/month. I actually get a corporate discount through my employer as well. I am not thrilled about having to use my old Palm Treo 680 when traveling abroad (in China and India, for example, using GSM), but I am quite thrilled with the idea of multitasking on the Pre, being cutting-edge, and being just a little bit different from all my friends who just get the iPhone without thinking about it.
Join our Facebook protest against AT&T:
"AT&T, ALLOW US the iPHONE UPGRADE, or WE'LL LEAVE AT&T in 2010″
My iPhone 3G was taken a week ago…where was the "Find my iPhone" feature then?? I'd love to get another one if Apple would be so kind as to allow me to get a new one at the discounted price because they are way too expensive without a new contract. If I have to wait until February to get my new iPhone, I may as well switch to Verizon and get the Pre instead. At least they have free calling to your top ten contacts. We'll see what rate plans they'll have by then. ATT is the biggest obstacle in the iPhone's way.
How much will the 3GS cost me… if I'm a 3G user with my 2-year contact that has already past:
The 2 year mark?
The 1.5 year mark?
The 1 year mark?
The 0.5 year mark?
Can't I *ALREADY* send a simple text-message to my lost/stolen phone that says:
"Please return this phone to …. "
That is "new"?
(I never turn my ringer off.)
> "AT&T, ALLOW US the iPHONE UPGRADE, or WE'LL LEAVE AT&T in 2010″
Why would anyone STAY if they weren't getting the service they desired????
Currently… you MUST stay with AT&T.
(Do you often stay with a company that doesn't give you want you want… if you have the choice of switching?)
But as soon as there is CHOICE… I'll stay/switch to whichever company I feel is best.
Currently… Apple knows only *THEY* make the iPhone (or anything close).
… and AT&T knows they are the *ONLY* choice you have.
2010 is be very interesting.
How many people are going to unlock their iPhones to sell them on EBay? You make it sound like unlocking and risks associated with doing that are negligible. I looked into the process a while ago and it is not as easy as you make it sound to unlock and iPhone and magically transform it into a valuable piece of hardware. That doesn't even take in for granted the value of your phone when you try to unlock and end up bricking it too Never Neverland…
iPhone 3.0 is free, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to get the features…without the 3Gs you won't have the better camera, faster speed, compass, etc…
I suspect most users will end up waiting till their two years are up on ATT before they shell out more money to get a newer unit and by that time it will be on Verizon, Sprint, T-mobile and the list goes on.
Once you use the Palm Pre you will wish you had one. The Pre is faster and a much better Smart phone than my iPhone 3G. The Pre's multi-tasking ability is just fantastic and I prefer a qwerty keyboard to a touch screen. My contract runs out at the end of this month and I am definately changing my phone to the Pre. In the past I had no alternative but to stay with ATT but with the introduciton of the Pre I will go back to Sprint. With Sprint I get the best phone at a $50/month discout, that is what I call a deal. ATT bye bye.
ATT is stupid to try and make the current 3g owners wait for the lower subsidized price. Instead they should just tack on the extra 2 year agreement onto the end of the current contract. So if you have had your 3g for 1 year and have 1 year left, put that new agreement at the end for a 3 year agreement. Satisfies current iphone owners who want the new 3gs with the subsidy and ATT doesnt lose money on its subsidizing the 3g.
I though that the $200 contract fee would be prorated. Since the contact is for 2 years, after 1 year of ownership the difference would only be an additional $100. I am going to check with AT&T on this but I have no immediate plans to upgrade. I like the additional storage but the current speed is fine for me. I will consider upgrading when tethering is officially available and when I have a real need for it.
I can do pretty much anything directly with the iPhone (just slower because of the small screen). And now that cutting and pasting has been recognized by Apple as a true human need, I can get down to business – after June 17 when I install 3.0.
I still don't understand why people are expecting to get hundreds of dollars on ebay for a 3G when Apple will be selling them for $99?
Maybe if they're unlocked….but getting $300-$400 on EBay still?
Please enlighten me.
Our company will not be upgrading to the 3GS at this time. Last year's 3G's works fine and the new software should help ease the desire to have the latest. We'll be content to skip two generations and reconsider next year when new models are again introduced. It doesn't mean we won't envy just a little bit those who are using the new iPhones.
Nope! The cost would be a waste. I'd love to have a better quality camera, but the speed doesnt bother me and I rarely get lost so the compass is not important. If ATT would do away with that price gouge for existing users, I'd certainly do it. but I unfortunately lost my iPhone on a business trip back in February and had to buy another from ATT, with no discount extended. The damn thing cost me $400. Dont get me wrong, I love my iPhone, but at those prices, I would certainly take a look at the Palm Pre on Verizon. You'd think ATT would cut some slack for a family plan user that has been with them for several years, paying $300-$400 a month in fees
there are rumors going around that the reason why apple hasn't layed down the specs for the "new" iphone 3gs is because there is no actual increase in processor speed. that they only added RAM to come up with the "faster" response time. why would anyone pay 400$ for a compass and a video cam? did anyone see the key note at the wwdc conference when they mentioned that there is no time when tathering and mms will be available to att user? everyone knows that they can easily upgrade all iphones to have video recording and the voice commands without having to buy new hardware
The petition attacking AT&T for enforcing its 2-year contracts for the iPhone is possibly the most foolish thing I 've heard of all week. Will these people be petitioning to get out of their rent or mortgage contracts, car payment contracts, insurance contracts, etc., too?
I am surprised why everyone is challenged to understand the contract. I have used T-mobile and AT&T and they both have always had a 2 year contract. When I lost a Motorola phone with T-Mobile, I was 6 months into my contract and had to shell out $279 for a cheap phone years ago. So the whole I have to pay more for a phone I purchased a year ago is utterly non-sense. I have the original iPhone and paid the original $599 for it. Then Apple gave us $100 credit in Apple dollars because they reduced the price fairly shortly afterwards. So for everyone complaining, please get over it and read the contract before you sign up. This isn't a new concept with the 2-year contract.
Now what does frustrate me with AT&T is they do not allow a corporate plan discount for the original iPhone 2G. That would save me a little more the $20 bucks a month. If I purchased the iPhone 3G last year, I would have gotten the corporate discount on my family plan. Makes no sense to me because I could not use 3G just EDGE. But AT&T has always taken care of me with any issue that I have had (only a couple over the years) and I am 100% satisfied with their service. So I am welcoming June 19th for the iPhone 3GS which I have already pre-ordered on Apple's Website.
First, the Pre costs $199 with a 2 yr contract. The iPhone 3G costs $99 with a two year contract. But you should not be misled by ATT with its $99 bait. Once you sign an all inclusive (Voice/Data/Texting) contract with ATT you will be obligated for an extra $50/month. Over the course of 2yrs that amounts to an extra $1,200. On the other hand the Pre will cost you an extra $100 on initiation, however it will save you $1,200 over the next two years of your contract. Cost aside the Pre is technologically far more advanced than the iPhone and from what appears to be the future iPhone 3G s. The iPhone 3G s still won't be able to multi task, it still won't have a qwerty keyboard and its battery will still remain fixed. At this moment the Pre is much faster, more user friendly and to be frank a much better designed Smart phone. Only a fool would give up a Pre for an iPhone. The iPhone touts its App store, however most of you will agree 95% of these applications have little use, which is manifested in the revenues they have generated from these applications. Since the Pre's WebOS was designed for keeping in touch with the Cloud, it will be easy for most developers (10 million+) to write or convert their programs into applications for the Pre. Most programmers are familiar with HTML, CSS and JAVA ergo it shouldn't take long for the Palm Pre App store to be filled with useful applications. As more consumers use the Pre its merits will become more apparent and the spin used to discredit it will be much more difficult for iPhone fans to promulgate.
Nevertheless, the iPhone has finally prostrated to the Pre by being forced to lower its price. How else could they have tried to match the Pre, which is unequivocally the best Smart phone designed to date.
Get used to the new King of the Smart phone jungle, the Pre has arrived.
Only when you use this Pre will you realize how good it really is. The real issue is not bashing the iPhone, but giving credit where it is due.
Cyrus, I will give it to you that the Pre is a better phone, faster and more user friendly, but you should not forget the iPhone is also a great product. It all depends on who is using the phone and for what purpose you intend to use the phone. Teenagers prefer the iPhone because it is frankly a better game console to mention just one aspect of the phone. Its capabilities are not that much less than that of the Pre and I am certain the iPhone will continue to try and emulate the Pre in the same way the Pre emulated the iPhone. In my opinion the Pre for now is the king of smart phones but that could change very easily.
Cyrus & Anonymous,
Pre has its strength in communication. It has a nice UI to work smoothly in that arena. That is about its only strength.
Pre is possibly faster than 3G, but not 3GS. Pre starts to slow down as we increase the number of applications that are running. This has been reported widely now by many reviewers.
Apple is pitting the now, newly demoted, iPhone 3G against Pre. Apple is ignoring Pre in iPhone 3GS pricing.
Pre has no video editing, no ability for now to handle complex applications such as vital sign monitoring and UAV control. No voice control for music, no blind access, no external device control interface.
While Pre is good, let us not go overboard and start calling it a "King". It has not even beaten RIMM which is currently the real King in enterprise. It certainly has not beaten iPhone. Pre is just another device that solves problems for some people. Some people will want the iPhone, some the Pre, some RIMM and some Nokia. Calling any one of these "King" is a bit naive.
Well, users are forgetting about Verizon and the… Blackberry 9630 Tour. Did I mention Verizon? One of the best networks hands down, along with Friends & Family benefits. Oh yeah, and the Blackberry Tour. It adopts aspects of the Blackberry Bold and T-Mobile Blackberry 8900. For those against the touch screen, this will be a hot device, especially for Verizon consumers. It's aimed to launch in July at $199… could be yet another competitor to the iPhone. Last but not least, old generation Curve sales beat iPhone Sales in 2009 thus far. Just a thought.
"Anonymous wrote:
@NYPCTECHMAN: The iPhone OS 3.0 upgrade is free. What are you talking about?"
Because he is an Apple bashing troll that works as a peecee "consultant" (mostly to get rid of viruses which any monkey can do). His comment also proves that he has never owned an iPhone in his life. His bias against Apple like most that work as M$ IT supporting the bloated, virus infected windblows platform shows his insecurity that he may one day be replaced by a Macintosh IT.
I have been on AT&T for years and am a huge fan of the iPhone. The price of the phone is not the issue. I was able to justify $20 a month for the data plan originaly, but when they jacked it up to $30 I just couldn't pull the trigger.
I am happy with my iPhone 3G – though always love the new tech stuff. I figure that my contract will be up next year and that by that time there will be something better from Apple or someone else on some provider or another. One issue with Palm and the Pre that I have not seen addressed is the build quality and customer support on the hardware end. I have had Palms way back to the PalmIII. However, I had to have my Palm TX replaced three times in the first year – so four separate units during that time. By the end, I was just sick and tired of dealing with their off-shore support and with having a product that I could not rely on. If I had been looking for a new phone at this time, I would not have gone with the Pre for that reason, alone.
As an existing Sprint customer, my plan was $69 a month for unlimited data & text, 450 minutes, free nights and weekends, and GPS services; the same plan on AT&T is $89.99. Over a 2 year period, that price difference is $480: unacceptable.
I have no intention of using my smart phone as my MP3 player, so 8 vs. 16 gigs isn't really a selling point for me.
Also, AT&T gets absolutely no reception on the Washington D.C. underground whereas Sprint does. As I am very mu7ch a public transportation kind of guy in the DC area, I have to have that underground signal.
Krinstine I believe you are lying!! YOU readily admit that you are an Iphone user and when your contract runs out you would rather pay another $30 a month to stick with the outdated phone you have rather then get a hot new phone that blows the old iphone 3g away. You could get the new model of the Iphone but then again it would cost you not only the EXTRA $30 per month but also an EXTRA $200 more for the phone. This leaves you paying an EXTRA $$720 in 2 years to keep your old Outdated phone or $920 extra for the new one over the Palm Pre..That is just the starting price differences on the most basic plan. If you go with the Big Minutes plan,you are talking an extra $1200 to $1400 in 2 years for the old or new iphone. That is why I feel confidant that you are lying about your old Palm and your agenda is to keep other from buying a competitor. VERY DIRTY TACTICS for a VERY DIRTY PERSON!!!
Chris you are wrong on your figures. ATT is $99 witth the GPS not $89…ATT does not include the GPS under the regular data plan for the Iphone like Sprint does for all their phones.In fact Sprint throws in a lot more extras that ATT charges for each one.
To TB – you say Pre has no video editing, no ability for now to handle complex applications such as vital sign monitoring and UAV control. No voice control for music, no blind access, no external device control interface.
Wasn't you Iphone fanboys that said Wait until the new update for the iphone hits before you can say anything about the Pre,so why shouldn't we compare the upgrades that the Pre will soon get which is all the functions you say it lacks now. WE already KNOW that the PRE wil get an onscreen keyboard for that that want to use one in landscape mode,Also video recording and editing wil be on it very soon along with java along with in a few months they are going to be able to access the SDK to give the Pre more powerful GAMES then can be currently made with just the web apps. YOU people wanted people to wait for the next iteration of the Iphone but you don't seem to want to wait for the updates you already know are coming soon to the PRE. Very Very Hypocritical. Double Standards abound in the world of Apple and their Zealots. Sahem Sahme
$30 x 24 months = $720
Apple needs to get their product on another carrier ASAP, That price difference in plans is appalling and its really weighing their product down.
Having had Sprint in the past, I'd never go back, no matter HOW much cheaper or because they have a "device exclusive." In the case of the Pre, I'd wait until ATT and/or Verizon get it sometime in January. Regarding the iPhone 3GS, the incredible variety of applications makes it a very attractive choice, but ATT's GOT to do something about their network! I understand they're currently engaged in some upgrading that'll support iPhone's "tethering" function, but wonder if that'll improve their quality as well. In both cases: I want to be sure neither of these new, untested units prove troublesome! 'Til then…I'll wait on both the Pre and the iPhone 3GS.
The Pre is the obvious choice, except it's on Sprint. As soon as the GSM version with US frequencies is available, I'll make the move from the Nokia N97.
I have an iphone 3G and I had the first generation iphone previously. I've seen the differences between the 3GS and what the new 3.0 software is capable of. I'm not going to upgrade to a new phone just get the new software. They say the new 3Gs is 2x faster but I doubt AT&T has the capabilities to sustain it… their service simply sucks as it is; I'm afraid it get worse rather than better. So if you are thinking about it getting one I will wait until AT&T is capable for a simple MMS and tethering which btw is supposed to cost and extra $70 increasing your bill even more.
Can anybody confirm if the iPhone 3G S really can be bought without a service contract?
And if so, is it certain that the price will be $599 and $699?
I'm asking this because I'm intending to buy a iPhone in the US during my holidays.
I know that the Nokia N97 isn't mentioned in this article.. But if I had to choose, my first pick would be Nokia N97. I dial a lot of calls abroad (outside of the US), and having a phone that could use Skype via 3G with good battery life suits my needs more. The N97 has a high price tag which is intimidating since I'm currently under ATT plan, although my contract has been up for over a year now…
Let's face it….Apple + ATT = Kill the existing customers with higher prices and fees and let's rope new customers in with special prices which will disappear when contracts need to be renewed.
I have an original Iphone…purchased just a little more than one month before the 3G came out. ATT rep told me that the new 3G would be 6 months away and when I complained about it when the 3G came out, all I got was shut out as I was over the 30 day limit by 3 days!!!! Now don't get me wrong..I love my Iphone but Apple + ATT has not a care in the world about their existing customers. They know that we won't be giving up our beloved Iphone for any other phone that is out or coming out. The Iphone is so much more than just a phone which makes it one of the best, if not the best, mobile device on the market today.
But ATT has to get their house in order to keep customers loyal. They need to improve their cell service and more than that, they need to understand that if the customer base would like to upgrade to newer products from Apple they need to rein in their price structure and keep us happy. Somehow though I don't think that Apple + ATT will ever understand this.
I bought the 1st Gen. iPhone about a month before Apple dropped the price (I did get a $100 Apple credit to defray the cost). The 3G was not attractive to me, the EDGE network was all right for what I wanted to do.
My contract is about to come up, so I ordered the 3Gs. I got the upgrade pricing. But as I remember, when the 3G came out, I was offered the upgrade price.
So if Apple comes out with some new fangled iPhone in January, I won't worry. As far as ATT, they'll lower their service price to stay competitive.
I'm glad that Palm released a great little phone. I think the RIM has more to worry about than Apple from the Pre. Hopefully, Palm's management won't mess this up.
how much is the iphone 3g 16gig without a contract?
I find the ATT wireless pricing prohibitive… T-Mobile give me unlimited voice plan+data+text under loyalty plan for $80.00 per month, Sprint gives it for $100 per month… how can ATT justify the $150.00. I will wait until iPh is available elsewhere and continue to test G1 etc. Someday they will catch up.
" how much is the iphone 3g 16gig without a contract"
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Mosey'd down to the Apple store, the line was gone by 2pm. Walked right in and picked up my new 3Gs.
8 years with Tmobile, I'm happy to see 3G lit on my phone and happy to finally have my first iphone after waiting for 32gb to finally trump 8 & 16. Life is short, stop reading all this BS and go get the stupid thing
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Textural Sydney
Textural Sydney
Two posters that I designed to promote my school's art clubs =)
First attempt at poster design xD
Hand-drawn piece of Illustrative Typography to commemorate and represent change throughout this year =)
By Lekha Nanavati
This was a design for a poster based on lyrics from the song 'Lonely Nation' by Switchfoot. The idea that I came up with was about how everyone is connected to each other online but are all anonymous in the real world and how this has ultimately created a 'Lonely Nation'. Hand drawn design and coloured in Illustrator =)
CoreToon: Tasty Color Separation
CoreToon: Tasty Color Separation
Love it!
Beautiful =)
Love this editorial illustration!
I was blown away by this amazing typography project by Zim & Zou!
A few weeks ago I visited the largest working printing museum in Scandinavia and, as a design freak, I was in absolute heaven! Letterpress blocks, presses, prints and generally typography everywhere =D These were some of the photos I took inside =)
(via designaemporter)
Observer theme by Zack Sultan

subset: commoncrawl


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Yes I do, but I'm really new at it.
…who are you D:
Thank you, thank you so much for your input! I'll be making a new blog and reblogging them from there, so it wouldn't be too confusing. Will tag those posts properly too, so its easier to go through.
And thank you again for being so wonderfully supportive, I love you guys ;____;
Was pondering if I should be starting a new blog for all those life sketches and non-fandom related artworks that I've done. Or should I stay with this blog (With all those ridiculousness in it? I still can't get over the fact that I made that Bad Romance video.) Might need to link potential clients, hence the thought.
Any suggestions?
Sorry for the late reply, you have no idea how much I need this, thank you so much! :)
Sorry for the lack of updates, real life and chinese new year and job-hunting and frustrating over my portfolio took up most of my time… I'm getting rusty at drawing ahhh need to get my rhythm back.
Sorry for the very very late reply, was job-hunting and making life-altering decisions haha. Unfortunately 'Drown's sold out, and it's unlikely that I'll print another batch… but thanks for asking!
I'm far from awesome, but thanks!
Sorry for the irregular updates, 7th chapter is up! (Do people even follow this…?)
And a big thanks to those awesome people who stopped by during Comic Fiesta! :)
Sorry for the late reply, Merry (belated?) Christmas!
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed it! :)
All Christmas postcards are snapped up, thank you so much you guys! Merry Christmas!
Anonymous asked you: 很美的賀圖,謝謝!!!!!聖誕節快樂~(羞奔
Anonymous asked you: is it okay if i crop your avengers christmas graphic to use natasha as my tumblr icon? i'll make sure to credit!
Sure thing, go ahead! :)
Anonymous asked you: I love the high camera angles you used in the recent updates (the original dim sum illustration and 6th part of 'Home'). :D
Thank you, glad you like! :)
Thank you so much for following, sure will! :)
I'm sorry this took me so long, but here it is!
No please, don't teach him that, anything but that. (Referring to previous Thor post)
whipbogard replied to your photo: Picture done for this year's Comic Fiesta 100-day…
Yup, I'm Malaysian!
SAVEDMYLIFEFORAREASON said: THANKS FOR LETTING US KNOW!!! CAN'T WAIT!! BUT YOU DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO!!!
Thank you so much for understanding! :)
Thank you so much, sure will! :)
Anonymous asked you:
Just dont abandond us ;3; we love youuuuuu! -anon lab bro.
I'm not leaving haha, just wanted to draw other different things. Love you too!
bromance-enthusiast said:
;A; Sad to hear about the break, but I can't wait to see your other stuff! <3
miakulpah said:
Ohh, you're so much better than you think! But then, we're always our own worst critics, regardless of the art form. But I happen to think your work is beautiful. And uniquely yours.
hideoutfromreality said:
I politely disagree, but you must do what makes you happy :) So I will support your choice. ^^
takanye said:
hnnnnnnghhh will miss the Avengers fanart but I LOVE YOUR ART I WILL FOLLOW YOU NO MATTER WHAT…
misscynomys said:
Do what you gotta do. I love your art and will follow regardless. :)
aisu10 reblogged this from ecokitty and added:
oh gosssh i fell out of my chair at this picture i just… wow your art is just really really amazing ;n; i'm sad about your plans to take a break from avengers but if you feel you need to then go right ahead labish. ;u; but do know that your art is fantastic no matter what you're drawing.
nausiwindstrider reblogged this from aisu10 and added:
Ditto! Your's is some of my favorite stuff in the fandom Labish. Whatever you do, keep being awesome!
qunhyskoa said:
其实没什么的啦,只是想去画画别的东西而已 *回摸*
feriowind reblogged this from you and added:
Aww, I hope you keep posting art though, I'd love…see anything you draw!
Thank you so much, you lovely lovely people ;___; Why are you people so nice omg I- *rolls on floor*
I will be exploring and experimenting more though, so please bear with me :) You can unfollow me if anything I draw isn't to your liking, but I will miss you…
Sorry for the late replies! Here I go…
2. Thank you so much! :)
3. It's basically Tony and Bruce helping each other to cope with their respective fears (That's a really short summary I'm not good with words I'm sorry)
Clintasha family AU. I think. Pacing's a bit slow now but it'll pick up, I promise.
Click read more for the comic.
Thank you! :) I haven't done commissions before though, maybe I'll start taking them in the near future? Thanks for asking!
bromance-enthusiast said: :d yaaaaaay!!! it's sad that she's hurt—but i'm totally excited for that story!! <3
aisu10 said: oh my god, a story about the clintasha family with baby!avengers? :'d my favorite!!
Ah, I hope I can pull the story off convincingly though, thanks! :D
Aww, thank you for telling me so! :)
Yes I am, but I'm occupied with work for the moment, and I can't animate very quickly… Sorry, you might need to wait for a little bit. I'll upload my processes once I get to it though! Thank you for your patience!
(To be frank I've really enjoyed drawing it, oh god what kind of awful person I am)
I've been using some of the most basic brushes in Photoshop though, do try out the dry media brushes, tweak some of the settings, the scattering and stuff (I'm not good at teaching am I…?) Hopefully that helps…?
Originally drawn for Clint's birthday (which was a few days before) but work got in the way. Oh well.
Anyway trying out a different coloring style.
(I want a glowy origami hawk, dammit)
(Got Clint's eye color wrong fml *dies*)
Okay, I've gotten notice that a few people didn't receive their booklets. There is a huge possibility that it's gone missing thanks to the inadequate mail service in my country. If you haven't receive your orders, do e-mail me about it! I'll send you another copy (and hopefully they don't go missing the second time around. My heart breaks to hear about orders ending like this due to irresponsibility.)
Sorry for the lack of updates, have been really busy with real life lately… (Everything just came crushing after my trip to India woaghhh)
And now I'll finally answer those anon asks… (I'm so sorry please forgive me)
Anonymous asked you:
Science Bros gangnam style please!
Sure thing! But I'm quite occupied right now and my method of animating is rather time consuming, the video might have to wait…
Anonymous asked you:
Hey how was your experience of India? I hope you enjoyed your stay here.
India's great! Very beautiful place. I kinda regretted not staying there longer though, there's still so much to be seen. I certainly have enjoyed my time there, thanks for asking! :)
Anonymous asked you:
I can't believe you're malaysian. You're like so near me and talent we express are so far. Like you show off your art. And I don't feel ready to do so yet. Not art, though I like it. I prefer singing. Lol, might drawsomething when free and msg you? I'm underage tumblr-er:P
But why you can't believe I am Malaysian :/ Sure thing, I love getting messages! :)
Anonymous asked you:
adssfhgfdjhkjl omg just browsing your blog I came across the banner abuse meme you filled!!! I FEEL SO GUILTY FOR WANTING MORE OMG
Sorry for the unannounced hiatus, will update….soon?


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Regarding "Poll worker's fraud heads to prosecutor" (Feb. 12): "Casting two votes is a felony under Ohio law." There must be a penalty if it is done intentionally or for profit. The article quoted the Ohio Voter Integrity Project co-founder as saying, "There are no qualifications to be a poll worker, no reading or math […]
Prison sentence for poll worker is not the solution
02/17/14 at 7:30am by Letters Editor | Comments
Why wasn't jailed woman's political party disclosed?
02/17/14 at 7:29am by Letters Editor | Comments
Sharon Coolidge's report on voter fraud properly identifies Ellen Duncan as a Republican but inadvertently (?) fails to identify Melowese Richardson (sentenced to five years for multiple cases of voter fraud) as a Democrat. Possibly she left it out to save space? William Gerak, Hebron
Crime lab may be ideal place for voting
02/06/14 at 11:51am by Letters Editor | Comments
Given the convictions of Hamilton County poll workers for multiple cases of voter fraud in recent elections, it is a brilliant idea to co-locate the site for early, in-person voting with the County Crime Lab. Naturally, the party of fraudulent voting objects! Mike Emerine, Cold Spring
Faulty provisional ballots aren't Husted's fault
02/03/14 at 7:55am by Letters Editor | Comments
As a member of Ohio Voter Integrity Project, I attended last Monday's highly publicized and politicized Board of Elections meeting in Hamilton County. I have to speak up in defense of Secretary of State Jon Husted. At the end of the meeting, Chairman Timothy Burke mentioned that many legitimate provisional votes are not being counted […]
Fraudulent votes worth pursuing
01/16/14 at 7:30am by Letters Editor | Comments
A recent letter writer stated that "changing voting laws to prevent the rare fraud is not in Ohio's best interest." He cites the fact that there were only 270 voters referred to prosecutors for possible voter fraud in Ohio. Several days later, Ohio's secretary of state reported that in 2013 there were 43 ballot issues […]
GOP must learn to win elections honestly
01/13/14 at 4:55pm by Letters Editor | Comments
Sunday's Enquirer page A8 features "Protect Your Vote" by Chrissie Thompson. Her shameless mission statement: "I watch …. the interest of Southwest Ohioans." It should rightly say "I take care of the GOP/Tea Party." The article features five pieces of Ohio legislation – all by the GOP, all squarely aimed at stifling Democrat votes from […]
We need to stop chasing nonexistent voter fraud
01/12/14 at 7:54am by Letters Editor | Comments
Yes, my fellow Ohioians, it has been determined and reported that there were only 270 voters referred to prosecutors for possible voter fraud out of more than 5.6 million votes cast in the November 2012 election. It is known that many of those 270 were confused voters or mistakes by election officials. This is a […]
Changing Ohio's voter laws is unnecessary
01/09/14 at 11:59am by Letters Editor | Comments
Only 270 out of more than 5.6 million Ohio votes fraudulent. Yes, my fellow Ohioians, it has been determined and reported that there were only 270 voters referred to prosecutors for possible voter fraud out of more than 5.6 million votes cast in the Nov. 2012 election. It is known that many of those 270 […]
There's much bigger voter fraud to go after
08/21/13 at 8:58am by Letters Editor | Comments
On the way to work, I made the mistake of stopping for a bagel, and the headline "Voter problems force poll worker overhaul" (Aug. 14) stared up at me as I was getting coffee. While I'm glad The Enquirer is so interested in "protecting the vote," I can't help but wonder why they're not going […]
Indignation, sure. But prison time?
08/16/13 at 8:44am by Letters Editor | Comments
I share The Enquirer editorial board's indignation about people voting twice or voting for others, and about cops and others voting in jurisdictions other than their place of residence. The board rightly points out that the latter is at least as egregious as the former, and that the disparity in treatment is unjust. However, the […]
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State sells timber sale April 19 at Kamiah
The Idaho Department of Lands sold a timber sale on Friday, April 19, at Kamiah. Four Corners, located 10 miles northeast of Kooskia, was sold to Idaho Forest Group LLC.
Meet attorney general candidate, Chris Troupis, at April 29 events in Grangeville, Cottonwood
Meet Republican candidate for Idaho Attorney General Chris Troupis at two events on Tuesday, April 29. A no-host breakfast is set for 8 a.m., Oscar's Restaurant in Grangeville. A no-host lunch will be held at Rodonna's/Country House, noon to 1 p.m., in Cottonwood.
Candidate forum for state, district candidates set for Saturday, May 3
The Idaho County Republican Central Committee will hold a candidates' forum on Saturday, May 3, noon to 3 p.m., at the Grangeville Senior Center (north of town on the truck route).
Nez Perce Tribe receives 2014 Farm Bill funds for noxious weed control
The Nez Perce Tribe was among the recipients awarded funding through $48.1 million allocated through the 2014 Farm Bill designated for agricultural health projects.
Basic First Aid and CPR Class to be held April 12
Anyone interested in receiving a certification for the American Heart Association Heartsaver First Aid/CPR/AED course is invited for this informative class to be held April 12 at Soltman Center from 9 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. The cost is $50 and includes all materials. Preregistration is required and can be done by calling Syringa Hospital & Clinics at 983-1700.
Republican candidates to speak at April 15 Idaho County GOP meeting
GOP candidates for Idaho County offices have been invited to speak at the Idaho County Republican Central Committee next Tuesday, April 15. The meeting starts at 6 p.m. at the Super 8 Motel, and the public is invited to attend. Contact Marge at 962-3519.
Grangeville City Council to meet Tuesday, April 8
Due to a scheduling conflict, the Grangeville City Council will meet on Tuesday, April 8, 7:30 p.m., Grangeville City Hall. Set for discussion during the meeting are public hearings on an alley vacation and two right-of-way issues, and a first reading of the downtown ADA parking ordinance.
Nez Perce–Clearwater National Forests propose recreation fee increases
Recreation managers at the Nez Perce-Clearwater National Forests have struggled during the past 10 years to keep campgrounds, cabins and lookout rentals open without raising fees during a time when budgets have significantly declined resulting in staff and service reductions.
Forest Plan Revision Collaborative Session set April 5 in Orofino
The Nez Perce-Clearwater National Forests continue to work on developing its Forest Plan that will set the course of management for the next 10-15 years. The next public collaborative meeting is Saturday, April 5, 8 a.m. in Orofino at the Forest Service office (12730 U.S. Highway 12). The topics covered at this meeting will be wildlife resources and review of fire and fuels, air quality, recreation, and scenery resource topics presented at the February and March meetings.
Candidates for state office to meet with public April 2 in Grangeville
Several candidates for state offices will meet with the public at an event set for Wednesday, April 2, 6:30 p.m., Super 8 Motel in Grangeville. The event is sponsored by Integrity in Government PAC (Marge Arnzen of Cottonwood, treasurer).
Cottonwood controlled burn escapes, destroys shed
A controlled burn got out of control Sunday afternoon, March 23, and destroyed a shed at Cottonwood.
Three-hour outage due to malfunction darkens Riggins, New Meadows
Idaho Power reported 1,156 of its customers in Riggins and New Meadows were affected by an approximately three-hour outage last Thursday, March 20. A malfunction in an underground cable disrupted power at 2:50 p.m. (MT), and power was restored at 6:11 p.m.
Peck man dies in U.S. 12 crash north of Kamiah
Rory L. York, 68, of Peck, died last Wednesday, March 12, following an accident north of Kamiah on U.S. Highway 12. Reported at 9:03 a.m. at milepost 55, according to Idaho State Police, York was driving a 2012 Toyota Scion westbound when he drifted off the right hand side of the road, struck a tree and rolled into the river. York was wearing a seat belt.
Idaho County Sheriff's Office will offer firearms class April 4
The Idaho County Sheriff's Office, with funding assistance from the NRA Foundation, will be offering a one-day basic handgun firearms class on Friday, April 4, from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. in Grangeville.
Impaired driving patrols run through Saturday, March 22
Idaho State Police and local law enforcement agencies have increased high-visibility impaired driving patrols this week, to run through this Saturday, March 22.