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"store-owner concerns over visibility, privacy and technology are reaching a crescendo."
That is putting it very very mildly. Hang out in the forums. See the anger, the resentment, the disenfranchised. There are many many many many complaints about Etsy operations.
There would be many many more, however, people who tell the truth in the forums about the real issues with how Etsy is run often find themselves muted. Yes, muted. The company is playing childish and removing the ability for some people to post their opinions in the main forums. Heaven forbid you say an unkind word about how Etsy is run. You'll never be able to say another word again.
That is how scared Etsy is of people knowing the truth. Anyone who even hints at it is silenced permanently.
Such was the regime of Rob Kalin. Perhaps that is why he will no longer be running the show. Maybe the powers that be finally got tired of a petulant child whining and stomping his "why doesn't anybody like me" path across Etsy. We've been treated horribly.
But you wouldn't know that nearly enough, since the ones who could tell you the REAL stories are no longer able to do so.
Jackson speaks the truth.
Many of Etsy's long term customers welcome this news.
Good luck Chad.
I'm glad to see a positive change – there have been too many negative ones. I hope the biggest thing Chad tackles is the reseller problem. To say there are "some mass produced items" is a vast, vast understatement. The jewelry and handbag categories are SATURATED with them.
I wish him the absolute best of luck.
"Then in late 2009, he argued that Etsy had pursued growth at the expense of its sellers and customer service"
Sadly this is completely true, and there's no indication that that's about to change. The Etsy shopping experience has become more and more cumbersome and whether that's due to Kalin or the others on board remains to be seen.
Etsy being managed as an investment, a "conversation" or a great job destination for techies isn't Etsy being managed as just a great place to shop.
"Other critics fear the company's growth could be hampered by its ironclad rule that sellers can use the site only to offer good they have made themselves."
Actually, the so-called ironclad rule is largely ignored. Etsy has a significant number of resellers and a large amount of mass produced merchandise. One of the biggest complaints from genuine handmade sellers is that Etsy turns a blind eye to the mass produced merchandise, which likely generates quite a bit of the revenue for Etsy.
One of Etsy's fun features is "treasuries", where members can create a pictorial collection of their favorite items or items related to a theme. To emphasize the extent of the problem, some sellers create treasuries of identical mass produced items from up to 16 shops, each item clearly labeled and being sold as "handmade". Even when the evidence is this blatant, Etsy allows the items, shops, and sellers to remain.
Good article. I am SO glad that they have replaced Kalin as CEO — I give him credit for creating a great site, but he simply does not know how to run it properly now. I am one of the Etsy sellers who has been having issues with the service provided by the site — and I was permanently muted on what's left of the Etsy forums (after Kalin essentially destroyed the forum community by deleting entire sections) for strongly voicing my concerns.
I sincerely hope that the new CEO is able to raise Etsy up to what it COULD be, and that he listens to his customers (e.g., sellers) and cares about our needs. Etsy may once again be a wonderful site for vintage, handmade and supplies.
Etsy has been trying to tout itself as a social site, and the benefits of social marketing were shoved down sellers throats. However, forums were removed, many were muted, and now chat is gone.
For a site that wants us to be social, they seem to be working their collective asses off to remove all the real social avenues, leaving nothing but the avenues that are very visible, easy to monitor, and easy to control.
What news is Etsy afraid sellers will share with each other? Why news is about to hit that is so all fired intense that they have to quiet all avenues of discussion before unleashing it.
These are the games played in Etsyland.
Well as an ex-etsian I can see that we left in just the right time, thank God. They continue allowing mass produced items and resellers and it is down right disrespectful to sellers. That is one reason why we created the Handmade Artists' Shop as we believe that handmade artisans deserve some respect for there efforts and that the big box mentality should be left to the big box stores. This isn't the first time that Etsy has had a shake up and will not be the last, they will weather this storm but I suspect that little will change.
Thanks for the info,
Handmade Artists' Shop
blueditty wrote:
."Then in late 2009, he argued that Etsy had pursued growth at the expense of its sellers and customer service"
Sadly this is completely true, and there's no indication that that's about to change. The Etsy shopping experience has become more and more cumbersome and whether that's due to Kalin or the others on board remains to be seen. Etsy being managed as an investment, a "conversation" or a great job destination for techies isn't Etsy being managed as just a great place to shop.
This is NOT true. A letter was sent to Jim Breyer towards the end of Novemeber. It contained the BEST of the BEST forum scandals of 2009. It contained a link to EB < — hence the purely spin interview when Kalin returned. It was done to shut them up.
Kalin urged NOTHING! And quite frankly, in my oppinion, the wheels of progress run a tad slow within Etsy. The board does NOT impress me. They also took the easy slop work way out. The writing has been on the wall for years.
I personally think that it's disgraceful that it took a paid for report before ANY SINGLE ONE OF THEM TOOK THE ONGOING PROBLEMS of ETSY SERIOUSLY.
fred Wilson has refrred to the unhappy sellers as being "disgruntled"
Time alone will tell if anything will be brought up to speed. I have grave reservations that this latest maneuver is simply more window dressing. <— THIS!, they're good at.
The site still cranks out kangaroo nomenclature and either doesn't understand or see the need to incorporate the full plethora of the Google attributes PROPERLY. The site has very recently begun to do a half baked job at incorporating a couple of the fluff attributes, but still is dtermined to cover their ignorance or laziness by opting for a mere 4 with pre written in drop down choices.
Show me a business run by mature functioning adults that stress quality and timeliness above schmooze and window dressing.
AND Chad has been in charge of the tech for the past 3 years. I'm leery based upon his apparant lack of skills as shown during his tenure as CTO.
don't let the door hit you on the way out.
"It needs to be professionally managed and Rob is not the right guy," said Anupam Palit, a senior analyst with GreenCrest Capital Management.
And note to Chad: Please bring back the forums and fumigate the resellers so I can come back!
All of us over at Etsy pay our fees with the same expectation of having our shops seen….this doesnt happen. In Etsyland they choose favorites. You see the same sellers (and REsellers) on the front page, in the Etsy Blast (the newsletter that makes recommendations), and in (Kalin's personal favorite) Style Picker. God forbid you mention this fact there, because then you might as well not exist for all the exposure your shop is going to get.
Search is broken because Etsy refuses you use legitimate terms that people use to search for items in spite of being told over and over again. I hope that Chad will LISTEN to his sellers because if he doesnt, Artfire will be happy to take their business.
What we don't know is how many of the current problems were the fault of Kalin's leadership and orders to staff. None of the Etsy customers know what went on behind the scenes, how the staff were treated, what orders they were given to carry out. What stupid schemes they had to implement and defend to irate customers in the forum.
Chad has a chance to put things right, he isn't short of people telling him what is wrong, they have been trying to tell Admin (Kalin) for a long time, only to be silenced on any excuse that can be found or moved to teams out of public view as much as possible.
I'm optimistic because I want to be. I don't want the mess that Etsy has become to continue – it could be great, it SHOULD be great.
I wish Chad well.
I think a large % of consumer annoyance/anger at ETSY was that we bought into their mission (handmade, vintage./supplies & no reselling with a great community)
once they sold out to the man, and aimed at the dollar signs and pretty much ditched the mission, we were disappointed,
when we started seeing them sabotage the community, our businesses, our privacy… the anger grew and grew with each scandal… mature gate, coral gate, privacy gate…
rather than fix the actual problems they broke tools we needed, installed flashing do nothing gizmos (circles!) and broke things like the search, and feedback (now a fresh level of extortion tool)…
It will be a long time, if ever, for them to earn back my trust.
If you promote your company, as just a company providing a service, if you betray your clients it's just crappy business.
If you promote your company as a mission, as a community, as a manifesto…. when you betray your clients, they'll take it personally, because they BELIEVED in you.
It will take a lot of work and a long time for ETSY to earn back my trust.
fix privacy issue *really* and restoring feedback. (real names should NOT be expected until there is a receipt involved, and public location as to state/nation is close enough for most of us, since at least for me I have had only ONE local customer via ETSY, in over 200 sales…)
the use of feedback as an extortion device is pretty nasty.
fix the search
give us some guidance on tagging, SEO etc.
give us functional 24/7/363 access to functional customer service and tech support. via 800 number as well as live chat.
were the rumors of "rolling black outs" true? if so, remove the rolling black out system.
how about also more variety of sellers & product featured on the fp and in the blog?
give the muted a chance to appeal. particularly if the mutings were for minor offenses. All disciplinary actions, including muting, need to be applied fairly. (APPEARING unfair/unjust/having favorites can be as bad or worse PR wise as actually BEING unfair/unjust/ and having favorites.)
it's going to be a long time before I can trust Etsy as a place to sell my work again.
I think Rob was clear when he returned that etsy was an experiment for him. That it would succeed or "crash and burn" The trouble with the experiment is, is that the mission statement is to enable people to make a living making things.
I often wonder if that is still true. The ridiculous toys on the site, circles, favorites etc are for bored sellers. None of my actual customers use them. Paying customers are increasingly frustrated that they cannot find what they search for or that was is purported to be hand made is not.
I truly hope things will change, but if Kalin and Mr. Wilson remain on the board, I wonder how much serious work can be accomplished.
Kalin created something great and then turned it into a garbage heap, full of resellers and complex social networking. Worst of all, he ruined the selling and shopping experience by constantly adding ways for potential customers to be encouraged out of the shop they were looking at. Etsy has become driven by fee collection instead of helping micro businesses find their online footing. I left two years ago and never return, their name is mud with too many people.
Pursuing growth at the expense of its sellers and customer service- is true regardless of who said it & in what context.
Investors want their investment returned. Long term projections for growth are only for monetary valuation purposes. They'll deny it, but where Etsy is in the year 2016 is factually irrelevant to the day to day running of Etsy.
If 5000 people close their shop today, that doesn't actually impact the valuation of Etsy.
Did you all forget that without Rob Kalin there would be no Etsy? No site to complain about? No marketplace for crafters? (Artfire, Dawanda, Zibbet all came post-Etsy).
While I respect the opinions of others who agree that Rob is not the right guy for the job, I have more respect for the man who gave us all the opportunity to profit off our hobbies. Shame on all of you for forgetting that!
I joined Etsy very early in 2006 when there were still stars in everyone's eyes and it seemed a Godsend for the little guy.
By 2008 or so, the bloom had begun to fade and by the time the big money investors showed up, it was pretty evident that the original premise espoused by Kalin et all was being left by the wayside in favor of the almighty dollar.
They professed to want transparency, but never kept their customers (the sellers) apprised of what was going on in Brooklyn, and would just spring little "surprises" (shinies we used to call them) right after something went terribly wrong somewhere and there was a general hue and cry in the forums…These shinies were supposed to divert attention from some mega faux pas that they had committed without having tested it first, or run it by the general populous for comments or ideas.
The timing of these horrendous events was usually late on a Friday afternoon, so that the forums could hopefully burn themselves out over the weekend and they wouldn't have to deal with too much cleanup on Monday morning…not that they would ever admit they had made a mistake.
I think what really gets me is the fact that they still profess to be a handmade site, with Vintage and supplies.
That has not been true for years! Resellers have been welcomed with open arms by admins, and any attempt to flag egregious violations of Etsy's TOU, have been greeted with silence and no action.
That's what finally gave me the courage to jump ship, and find a site that actually wants their sellers to be successful and gives them the tools and advice and tutorials to do so…not just lip service, but concrete building blocks for success…all you have to do is work hard and follow what is laid out for you.
Etsy lost my loyalty a long time ago, and I don't see Chad Dickerson being the person to stop the downward spiral of faith in a site that has totally lost it's original goals, and broken promise after promise to its sellers.
However, if he is the choice the 'board' wanted, then I wish him luck….he's going to need it.
Rob himself admitted to forgery and fraud to get where he is today. What a fitting symbol for a site that is a shell of its former self.
If Etsy had never let him come back the second time, the petulant child who points knives at reporters and thinks it cute and funny would never have started this insanely downward spiral.
You should never have let him come back. He ruined it. Shame on you. Shame on you all.
CookingInTheSouth wrote:
All of us over at Etsy pay our fees with the same expectation of having our shops seen….this doesnt happen. In Etsyland they choose favorites. You see the same sellers (and REsellers) on the front page, in the Etsy Blast (the newsletter that makes recommendations), and in (Kalin's personal favorite) Style Picker. God forbid you mention this fact there, because then you might as well not exist for all the exposure your shop is going to get. Search is broken because Etsy refuses you use legitimate terms that people use to search for items in spite of being told over and over again. I hope that Chad will LISTEN to his sellers because if he doesnt, Artfire will be happy to take their business.
Artfire has enough of its own problems right now. They little civil war between the premium customers and the free customers is tearing the place apart, and exposing the seedy underbelly of the site, as the bullies are coming out of the woodwork to kick the free shops to the curb, with glee.
Those seller will likely land at Zibbet, the same place a lot of Etsians have landed, due to recent events. Artfire won't be welcoming anyone until they settle their civil war, and the PR nightmares that are coming out because of it (see Creativebreakroom.com for more info on what the mavens have done).
The only place that will prosper from all of this is Zibbet.
I find Etsy a truly wonderful forum for exposure of my collection, sales are great, and I'm able to reach customers globaly. I find the fees very reasonable.
It's not a perfect system of course, but i find the Etsy bashinig pretty suprising, if it doesn't work for you, why stick with it? I'm a UK seller and I welcome it having a grown presence this side of the pond: http://www.etsy.com/shop/sarahhickey10
I'm highly amused by the idea that the handmade rule is "ironclad". The amount of resellers I ran across during just a short browse tonight defies that.
Etsy is a good site–with a lot of potential to be a GREAT one–but it needs people watching and shouting loudly enough to get things to change.
Regretsy does that quite well in a lot of ways, especially when it comes to pointing out resellers.
Some of us have been on Etsy a bit longer than you seem to have been. What you consider bashing may just be long term frustrated sellers venting because they feel their work helped build Etsy into the site that you are now able to exploit. These sellers feel that Etsy has morphed into something very different from what they were sold those years ago. What they were sold in the past is what inspired them to help build the site in the first place.
By the way, you aren't allowed to have that link to your own shop site in your Etsy profile. It's considered fee avoidance. I wonder whether you would start "bashing" Etsy if they deactivate your account for violating their rules.
What was the lil diddy about Rob making his own underwear? Was that to discredit him or the system currently in place? The close of the chat rooms was the icing on the cake for many loyal etsians. True, I've only been around a year, but I have networked with many wonderful people on etsy, got many many many tips and advice from the chat room that I didn't seem to get in forums. I love the forums, but sometimes you need someone that likes what you do specifically to give you the proper advice. Chat did that for me. It is now gone as of today. I welcome change, but I also live by the idea if it aint broke, don't fix it. Much money wasted on nothing…The new "circles" and "you might like" is not an essential part of selling where as numerous threads were made that claimed clearly that chat was…just a waste of resources and I wonder if etsy is going public and that is why the total axis shift?
For as many people that are mad about chat closing, there are thousands upon thousands of etsians that don't use chat. Keep in mind, the people that complain are a small minority compared to the larger number of people that are on etsy, both buyers and sellers. I've been on etsy since 2007 and only went into chat once. I've never used the virtual labs. I tried alchemy a few times but either I got no response or my bids were rejected. Really things like that only benefit a small number of people. Many people don't have time to sit in a chat room either they have a full time job outside of the home, or their etsy shop is so successful that they spend all their time working on it. Or they simply have families that take up their time.
However the resellers are discouraging to those of us on etsy that are playing by the rules. I don't shop on etsy often because I just don't have any money due to unemployment. But I've seen resellers on etsy and there have been times when admin have featured them. That hurts to see especially since there are thousands of people that have never been featured by etsy because they feature a lot of the same people over and over and over and over, rinse repeat…. you get the idea. Etsy needs to stop featuring the same tired sellers and feature people that are never seen. It gets tiring scrolling through the etsy finds emails and never see your own items in there. Or check the front page and have the same thing. Or the Showcases… We pay the same fees as those that admin plays favoritism to, yet we're never highlighted by them.
Over the last year etsy ruined their search. It was easy a year ago but they keep changing it and I get fewer views with every change!! They used to reply to problems – directly from the tech team (THANKS!). Now we just get "we are working on it" and more breaking FAIL BOO!!
I am grateful to Etsy for being the first to provide me with with an online venue for my one-of-a-kind work. That's it. I don't thank them for the poor search, the resellers, the favoritism…all said above. After being there for almost 5 years, I have closed my shops and am happily involved with caring, thoughtful, aware owners who are doing everything right. Zibbet may have had the path carved for them by Etsy but their road is wide and bright and even and I'm with them.
I agree with many comments already posted. I had been on etsy since almost the beginning, as a buyer initially, and opened a shop in 2007 selling handmade – mostly knitwear. The first year or two was awesome, and the admin there were great to deal with. But it took a steep fall – the searches were confusing, there were privacy issues a number of times, and many of the features that supported handmade sellers (like alchemy, treasury, and now chat) have been eliminated. All there is now is mass produced items, resellers, and copyright/trademark infrigements that DO break etsy's official guidelines & rules BUT ARE NOT BEING ENFORCED, which has ruined the etsy experience for many sellers.
Hopefully the work that's being done now is going to salvage the site, but imho it's too little too late. I have left etsy months ago to sell on zibbet, another handmade venue, and I know a lot of other etsians who have recently packed their bags and left etsy as well.
I have been on Etsy for almost 3 years and I only keep my shop open so those people who already know my shop can still get my quality HANDCRAFTED items but for the most part I have 2 other well stocked shops on Artfire & Zibbet … I like their flat fee and I don't get nickel & dimed to death by fees.
Etsy does have a very bad habit of showcasing the same shops over & over again and to make matters worse they do have lots of mass produced (manufactured) not handcrafted shops. I do understand that their goal is "Vintage, Supplies & Handcrafted" but NOT Manufactured being passed off as handcrafted, THAT is part of the reason I left the "Craft Malls" (brick & mortar) locations … Who can compete with that? They spend less time making those items then those of us who do take the some times hours & hours to make one piece.
Chat was a good way for crafters to connect & get instant answers to questions be it a shop review, an item review or even a pricing question. You would think the Powers that be would like seeing their shop owners working together it takes a little of the load off them with all the questions. On the down side I HATED if you clicked on the screen in chat you would have cookie, coffee and other strange items showing up on your screen, it would slow my computer down so bad I would have to leave chat.
Etsy should take a poll on what the crafters want and fix it or they are going to have all their shops close and go to other "Like" places (There are several out there now to choose from).
Best of luck to all
They've pretty much announced that it's business as usual, and they won't be addressing that enormous user discontent.
They're hoping to contain that user discontent for the short term by continuing with forum mutings and shop closures. If they're looking to be acquired, then it seems like they're handing off a loaded gun….cocked.
@Dee, thanks for that, I totally forgot I'd left that in my profile. Yes, sure you're right, I can only speak of what I find. Best of luck to all who are having a tough time with how things have morphed, I hope sellers will find some resolution.
I'm still currently a seller on Etsy, but I have to admit that even over the 2 years I've been on the site, I've thanked the stars that I opened a shop on Artfire and always keep my eyes open for other options as well.
Etsy's customer service is a disgrace. Over the past 6 months, they've continually tried to push the "social" aspect of shopping on sellers. But yet decimated the forum sections where many used to gather and talk then, more recently, has shut down chat on the site as well. Muting has escalated to the point where the "old timers" that used to give such good advice on the forums are now no longer allowed to post at all.
The search is severely broken.
Resellers and manufacturers are everywhere on a site that's –supposed– to be for handmade, vintage and supplies only. And even when people report shops reselling, etc, nothing is done about it.
When I started on Etsy 2 years ago, there were problems, yes. But it was still a -community-. Sellers chatted with sellers and buyers in the forums and chat. People worked together. Admin responded (at least occasionally) to questions for help.
Just 2 short years later Etsy is no longer a community. Admin and the powers that be have torn the community apart and punched holes in it until it is barely holding together by a thread any longer.
Yes. I still sell there. Yes, I'm very unhappy with the site. I still sell there -only- because I'm actually selling items currently. If, like *most* sellers on Etsy, I was only getting a sale a week or a sale a month? I wouldn't be selling there anymore and there would be no sadness in taking off because the community and all the wonderful -other- aspects of the site that they used to possess have since been destroyed.
"A survey of more than two dozen of Etsy's largest sellers " This is one of the big problems. Why isn't someone surveying us "little guys" that are trying to scrape by? Etsy has historically treated these same 2 dozen "largest sellers" to constant front page exposure, write ups etc. Those 2 dozen sellers are not the only ones doing business on Etsy….there happen to be quite a few of us out here that would die for 1 front page treasury or 1 mention somewhere. The "changes" Etsy has made has nothing, NOTHING to do with tools we need as Sellers to market our products. They are trying to take a marketing venue and turn it into FaceBook, it ain't gonna happen folks! When Etsy eliminated many of the forum threads they eliminated our ability to really market our sales, our shops, our teams etc. They couldn't deal with the uprising that was happening in the forums so they shut them down….they sent us all to our corners in time out. Many of the issues being brought up in the open forums were very real issues. Just stomping on the Sellers was not the way to deal with it! When they eliminated the forums I watched the traffic in my shop decline (within 5 weeks) 52%…..52%, can you believe that? Neither could I but it did. Etsy doesn't care enough about earning their money by helping their Sellers become profitable they earn their money from listing fees, renewal fees and "showcases" that Sellers have to pay for. If you don't renew your products almost daily you find yourself back on page 50+ and because the search feature doesn't work no one will find you back there. And to top that all off their blatant back turning regarding resellers flooding the site with mass produced goods anyone could buy on Alibaba they have made that same search feature even more worthless. Etsy Admin doesn't have a clue what the Sellers need, we know they KNOW what we need because we have been screaming for them for years! I'm sticking around a few more months to see if this new guy has a clue what's wrong and what to do to fix it….there is always hope. But, someone there had better realize that if their Sellers were making a good profit their own bottom line would improve. I loved Etsy when I first opened my store there. But now it's just a place to be until something better comes along….and we all are hoping that "something" will hurry up because we're going under out here…
What makes it so hard to profit is the JUNK made in China that people are reselling. It's flooding the beautiful handcrafted things out. There needs to be a specific department at Etsy that weeds out these resellers. It's horrible and it's going to be their downfall.
I am in no way surprised by the changeover in Etsy. This has happened before and will happen again. Etsy does not listen to its sellers. Period.
This is very easy to see in all the examples above of people leaving to go to other sites (Zibbet being the best one, with its easy Etsy/Artfire importer, fairness on the front page and its ability to listen to it's sellers in the forums, chats and emails).
I first noticed this going in Etsy in Sept 2008 when I asked to please add Eid as a category in their holiday searches (along with Christmas and Hanukkah) as I was passed from one admin to the next (12 in all). No one listened to my reasoning that it was only fair to highlight all three major religions in the world. Two years later, I finally got one admin to agree that it will be added once the category had more items listed in there. I worked like a dog, contacting over 600 sellers until the category had almost 900 items. Still nothing. In December 2010, I meet an admin over coffee and again shared my concern that Etsy was not fully diversified in their handling of the three major religions. Again, the admin assured me that this was an important cause and he would see what he can do about it. Islam is the second largest religion in the world, and yet Etsy doesn't believe it should be added as a category because with less then two weeks away from Ramadan, there is still no category of Eid.
I know my story is not unique in the lack of communication with Etsy. I have heard from so many people who have gone through similar frustrations.
I just wanted to share it because within a few months of asking about it on Zibbet, it was taken care of. That is the difference between an online site that cares (Zibbet) and one that has no interest in their sellers (Etsy).
I, too, was dismayed at the lack of response from Etsy when I would pose questions. My shop sales have not been fantastic, but I credit that to poor search returns and a weak economy. I was urged to try Zibbet and their community and support is quite astounding. A question is answered within hours (instead of not at all with Etsy) and the follow-up to any query is heart warming.
I was online for one of the last chat rooms. There would be a "global" popup from time to time, basically trying to sell circles, teams and showcase as viable alternatives to the end of chat. That is just non-responsive.
The reasoning that chat was not used is countered by the reality that the chat link was buried. Not a lot of people knew about it. Forums were (mostly) useful, with some people forgetting their manners.
I have a small shop of handmade. I received 20% of my sales directly from chat. When I read that chat was being discontinued, I felt as if someone pulled the rug out from under me.
As for me, for the time being, I will remain on Etsy, but I am also on zibbet.
I've been gone from Etsy for a few years now. I moved my shops to Zibbet where the sellers are treated with respect.
From what I've heard, chat became nothing more than promo parties. I stand by what I said earlier, of the total number of people that are on etsy, less than half of them would use chat. I'm guessing closer to 1/4 of the overall total. That's a small number when you look at the big picture. I know plenty of people that shop on etsy that are just buyers, they go in, buy what they want and then leave. Just because the economy is in the toilet and there are thousands upon thousands of people unemployed because of stupid outsourcing, doesn't mean those people would sit home and sit in chat.
I opened shop on Etsy nearly two years ago. Five months into my Etsy experience, I discovered Zibbet through an Etsy forum. Thank you Etsy! I have moved all of my handmade listings to Zibbet and have happily settled in there with no intentions of going anywhere else. Zibbet is destined to become the premier place to buy and sell handmade, fine art, vintage and supply items. Zibbet understand the value of excellent customer service and the importance of the personal touch. Stand back and watch us grow. Or better yet, come join us and become part of Zibbet's success!
Etsy doesn't just not listen to its sellers – it treats them with the kind of contempt that you normally only see in a high school where those who think they're part of the "hip gang" laugh at and bully the other kids.
I am sick to death of the smug, arrogant and unhelpful, "you're not one of us" attitude with which Etsy staff treat 99% of the sellers on the site. The whole place is run like a private club (handily financed by outside investors) for people who think that holding up a moustache on a stick is the height of radical chic.
I joined Etsy a few years ago. What blew my mind was the idea that you needed to constantly re-list your items in order to remain [relatively] visible. Then I ran into an issue requiring their assistance – not only did I not get an answer, I never even received an acknowledgement to my query. That was the icing on the cake.
I've moved over to Zibbet. The first time I had a question, it was answered directly by the CEO. Because of their growth, he now has more support staff but their response time is still 12-24 hours OR you get a abject apology along with a viable reason why the response might have been delayed. I am home…
Well I love these comments here because I have been wondering where best to go next and it appears I really need to check out Zibbet.
Etsy had a great idea and plan for a handmade community a worlwide marketplace of artisans reaching buyers. They sold people on that and have really pulled the rug out from under the early ones who believed them most and helped them build the community. The community has been dismantled this year, voices permanently muted. Resellers are allowed, undercutting prices for those who do make handmade items, and causing buyer distrust when they receive things and then realize they are mass produced. There are clear favorites by management, undercutting the idea of all having an equal shot.
Disenfranchised, disgruntled sellers, oh yeah. The loudest voices are the ones who helped to build the site and the community from the start and who do now feel sold out. Company actions made it personal for many. I am only glad that I wasn't there from the start, but I see and hear the pain from others and it isn't pleasant at all.
I moved from Ebay to Etsy when the Sellers were undervalued and essentially lost their Voice along with outrageous hikes in their fees. Etsy seemed to be a teriffic answer to what I needed and promptly opened 2 shops, visiting the forums and participating in the Chatroom while working full time as a Nurse. I met some great folks in those chatrooms and I don't regret it. It was through the long time, highly seasoned sellers that I began hearing of the discontent.Very rarely did the Administration come up with any answers for their pleading sellers that were flagging day after day and if they did, it was either a 'band aid' for a problem or just as a show. Resellers moved in constantly, the same sellers turned up on the front pages (some were resellers) and I saw the forums become a feeding frenzy as the saturation point was suggested by some to have been met. I did my best to distance myself from the entire fray but what I sold wasn't worth the aggravation.
It was through the forums however, that I found the needle in the haystack when disgruntled buyers mentioned Zibbet. I checked the site out that was still in the beta phase and promptly purchased 2 shops. Within 4 mos. my Etsy shops were empty and I haven't looked back. The administration of Zibbet regularly dialogued with Me and if something was wrong, promptly fixed it. They even manually handled a sale for me that a Buyer was having difficulty in getting through the checkout. The Sellers on the Site are right up there with the administration with each helping to promote the other's shops and cheering them on along with sharing trade secrets to boost each other's sales. It has been a world apart and i'm so pleased that I heard of Zibbet that one late night. I guess there is more to the phrase 'saturation point' than meets the eye. It can also be construed to mean that you're "All Wet!"
I have 2 shops on n etsy and just opened on zibbet…I am waiting to see what happens with etsy before jumping ship… but i must say .. I LOVE ZIBBET!!! and am climbing on the side of the ship to jump any day now.
Sold on Etsy since 2007, helped build the site, helped all the new sellers, taught a lot of people, and contributed countless hours, helping. Now I am permamuted and disgusted at how I was treated by Etsy staff. This is an American company? I am having a hard time believing that now. American companies don't typically treat their customers the way Etsy has.
Hmmm, so Wilson has admitted to the transition being a rapidly delpoyed company move?
Perchance following the advise of the Wall Street consulting firm. This, unfortunately implies that the choice of Chad as the new CEO, might be yet another SPIN and Window dressing treatment of the never ending malaise to be found within Etsy.
The board WAS made aware of the ongoing morale and tech problems in November of 2009. This was when THEY chose to bring kalin back and move Maria out. My guess is that the initial hiring of Maria was part of the package deal when the Accel money was added to the pot. Check out the timelines of any and all upheavals that occur within the site.
Seems to me the the ENTIRETY of Etsy personel, operates in a reactive as opposed to pro-active manner.
Is a 20/20 hindsight company truly a company that "YOU" would feel comfortable investing into?
As it stands, a larger than fiscally sound amount od their revenues come from paying the listing fees. I have seen quotes that state a 2% sellthrough rate. NOW, one would have to assume that even if new sellers sign on, and at a rapid clip, in $$$ high enough to show some measurable level of growth, STABILITY may prove out to be ellusive. As sellers progress past the "starry yd newbie stage", they will continue to seek out more potentially profitable opportunities and Etsy will probably continue to believe that SPIN and Window Dressing will impress would be investors in an ever increasingly shaky global economy.
IF and when shareholders need to be dazzled with the site's potential and bottomlines, what new hells will the sellers be put through?
Whether you buy from Etsy, attempt to sell items within Etsy, or are contemplating jumping on their IPO, I think that it would be wise to proceed with extrme caution. WHAT IS, is not exactly what their window treatments would lead you to believe.
PLUS they have already pulled a stunt or 2 that wound up having their books showing more $$$ than really existed. Summer of 2009. Sellers were advised to offer Paypal refunding, after the fact in order to do discounts. AND there was also roughly a year's timeframe when the sellers did not get their FVF (the commision) refunded by the site, if and when the seller had the need to offer a refund to one of the buyers.
2011 has been showing declines. Unless Etsy does a complete 180, I expect the declines to continue.
THE SELLERS HAVE HAD ENOUGH! ( At least the legitimate ones that don't make the cut into the cupcake brigade)
The one thing I havent heard from all of the Zibbet sellers yet is how well they are doing over there. Someone please tell me that your sales are great there!
I do agree that etsy has taken a complete wrong turn. It is hard to use, there are too many knock offs, and they have no customer protection program that means anything. I wish it would go back to what it was a few years ago.
To say that Etsy treats its sellers poorly is an understatement. The censor there sellers in the forums and mute them indefinitely if they do not sing prases to Etsy administrators. Etsy does not believe in freedom of speech nor in treating there sellers as adults. When questions or concerns arise from sellers they usually go unanswered by Etsy Administration.
The site has constant bugs that take weeks to fix. Sellers are bombarded with new this and new that, idiotic circles programs, search for friends, that no one wants or asks for. They just want to sell their products. Yet the things that sellers do want, like a proper search is never realized by Etsy. There more interested in being a social Facebook clone.
They never admit to mistakes or problems with the site and leave there sellers in the dark to search out the answers them selves. Its pathetic.
The site makes more money from re-listing fee's then sales. Thats a fact. That speaks volumes.
I truly hate the place any more and have gone to greener pastures.
when the admin. writes that questions will be addresses anytime within 5 minutes to 5 years you have to assuem that you as a paying customer is not their priority.
When disagreeing with admin will get you a warning with the disclaimer 'not to talk about this to anyone' and then muted you have to know customer service is not even on the adgenda.
Resellers will continue to flood their market because they pay for the 'privledge'…and their money is better than ours because they have thousands of cheap knockoffs to share insted of the few the average person lists a week…
Its going to take more than a change of one person to turn this ship around….is that an Iceburg ahead???
I see Esty going the way of Enron.
Sellers built up Etsy. A lot of sellers sent their customers from craft fairs, brick and mortar shops and farmer's markets to their Etsy shops.
So, how does Etsy respond? They put so many other shops in sellers' stores and profiles as a way for a buyer to click out of. They also send e-mails and convos to those buyers (Etsy's internal e-mail) to an seller's buyer ("if you like this, you might like that").
No wonder Etsy's sellers are mad as hell! Rob Kalin NEVER listened to hundreds of complaints about this (and many other subjects) in the forums. He would show up and explain why it had to be done, why circles and profile pages had to be littered with other sellers wares, no matter how many sellers chimed in and explained why they didn't want it (even when many sellers tried to draw the comparison that Etsy does not advertise its competitors, Artfire and aZibbet, on its front page — or any pages). That's when Etsy became a company that isn't about it's sellers. It's a company for Etsy, period, and their Venture Capitalists, the end.
So, if Etsy is going to be about its sellers again, I welcome the changes, but I won't hold my breath. Meanwhile, I put Artfire on my business cards for the time being. If browsers on the Etsy site find my diminished Etsy shop, fine, but I won't be advertising my Etsy shop to any of my outside buyers again.
I miss the old Etsy as well… This year has caused so much damage! I used to post almost constantly in their forums, found great friendships and a TON of useful information about everything under the sun. Now information is hidden in a thousand different 'teams', everyone but those who sing praises to Etsy Admins are afraid to post anything in the forums for fear of permamuting. Circling is a joke and trying to force 'social' crud on sellers when all they want to do is have their items found reliably in a sturdy search engine is ridiculous. I hope this is a step in the right direction, but I have been bit to many time by this dog to trust it any longer.
I am an Etsy buyer of many years standing, and I am surprised and saddened to read of the unhappiness of these Etsy sellers. My experience buying on Etsy — from you! — has been so positive, warm, and generous that up until now I have thought of Etsy as the single best buying experience online. I am grateful to have met so many wonderful people in the Etsy seller community, and I am sorry to hear that the experience from the inside has been less than rewarding for many of you. For whatever it's worth, your work comprises the best of handmade in the world and the foundation of a reinvented American economy — I really mean that. If you find a better place to sell, I hope I find it, too, and meet you there in the future.
You have to have a good product of course, but seller's need more help with exposure, marketing, and making it easy for potential buyers to find exactly what they are looking for once they land on the site. Same bottom line as always. Everyone needs to make money. I hopeful that Mr. Dickerson will help us with that.
And by the way, if you're looking for fabulous vintage and handmade jewelry, have a quick look at my shop:
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Please note that while many people have left etsy, many more of us are staying with etsy because we like the site in general. Yes it could be better, but what people fail to see is that when they go to other sites that offer x y and z, they'll get to a point where x y and z aren't enough, they'll want more and then the company won't give it to them. So they'll move onto the next newest site claiming to be everything the previous one wasn't. I've seen this happen. Look at the implosion going on at artfire. There was a heard of people flocking over there touting as the next best thing but now they're leaving there looking for something else. Those people won't be satisfied unless they have their own website where they can customize it to be what they want. Even when they do that, they'll find they will constantly have to make changes to suit their changing needs.
The bottom line is, it's easy to sit back and demand a website give you x y and z but the reality is different.
This is classic "Founder's Dilemma" stuff, what it takes to run a company is not the same as what it takes to create a company. Some founders have both skill sets (Schultz, Bezos, et al), but many do not.
I am a beginning seller on etsy and I think the site is fine, minus the cruddy search engine. That needs the most work. There is a plethora of success tips available, almost too much. People who complain that they don't succeed are not succeeding because they don't follow the success tips, or because their product is just not that great. Not every etsy seller has award winning stuff. I think the search needs work and that's about it. It isn't etsy's job to get you exposure, that's the seller's job. It's not supposed to be about posting a pic and sitting on your a$$ while the money comes flying in, thanks to a magical website. It takes work and theres plenty of advice about what work you need to do to make it happen.
@jb, part of the problem, though is that Etsy the site doesn't always dole out good or accurate advise, AND there are those of us who refuse to "do the do" for Etsy to play parasitic host to OUR marketing efforts.
Do a close examination of your shop. Count up the exit ramps that Etsy keeps erecting. With each new questionable improvement, my sales have decreased, NOT gone up. But I sell antiques and vintage goods and far too many of the keywords that potential customers have used to find MY items leads to my SOLD ITEMS, Can't sell what doesn't exist.
, now, can you?
I refuse to do the extra curricular promo work. AND yes, I have begun to shift most of my real efforts elsewhre. The site has shown me sh*t.
I just signed up for Etsy and all I can say…Oh Crap! Is this for real? Etsy is not any better than Ebay? I know the fees are horrible! I can't understand why the hell they have to charge so much! Maybe I will take my toys and leave now. Bonanza seems much better. And ecrater and any place else. Wow! Thanks! Glad I found this
For a site that wants us to be social, they seem to be working their collective asses off to remove all the real social avenues, leaving nothing but the avenues that are very visible, easy to monitor, and easy to control. http://www.zebrarestaurant.com
I have been selling in Etsy for a while now, all they want you to do is promote everyone else. When you curate a treasury they want you to endlessly promote it with false hopes of your curation ever making the coveted Front Page. As Captain of a huge team, I devoted more than 12 hours a day helping others while my shop suffered greatly. I have made over 500 treasuries, many with over 2000 views and not one made the Front Page… Etsy has its favorites, and these people are on the Front Page two or three times a day. Its really discouraging to those of us who work our butts off to have Etsy bite the hand that is feeding it!
JB you write the wonderfulness of Etsy and say that you are just beginning. You have no idea what you are in for. Etsy is a buyers market, not a seller. They have the same people on the front page month after month. If you have 25,000 people make jewelry, all the key words in the world are not going to get anyone to your store. You can get a lot of traffic to your site….from other Etsy shops.
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Turkish Economic and Social Studies Foundation (TESEV) and UNDP's newly released report on priority social and economic measures for east and southeast Anatolia regions calls for an all out campaign for 7 years in order to address the regional disparities in Turkey and inequalities within the region.
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According to the Report, the costs of such an investment upload are affordable by Turkey, and would not compromise her current fiscal discipline. With less than 1% of Turkey's GDP allocated to social spending, infrastructure rehabilitation and basic services for 7 years, the country can actually level the playing field in terms of opportunities and potential for local economic growth between the country's east and west.
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There are just over 526,000,000 Christian kids under the age of 14 in the world who celebrate Christmas on December 25th. In other words, Santa has to deliver presents to almost 22 million kids an hour, every hour, on the night before Christmas. That's about 365,000 kids a minute; about 6,100 a second. Totally doable.
Especially when you consider the uneven distribution of kids in the world. Santa needs to hit 22 million kids every hour. If Santa starts at the International Date Line and heads west, the first four time zones he passes barely contain that many kids waiting for presents. He's already got three hours in the bank. Until, you know, he gets to Europe, which kind of breaks his schedule.
Here's what Santa's night looks like. Read it from right to left; i.e., east to west.
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Video: Noah Syndergaard feeds a lion
Perhaps Instagram commenter stevenmurray10 said it best: "Use your left hand next time!"
Mets top pitching prospect Noah Syndergaard recently took a trip to the Lion Habitat Ranch in Henderson, Nevada, a 20 minute drive down I-15 south from Cashman Field, where Syndergaard plays with the Mets' Triple-A squad, the Las Vegas 51s
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MIAMI -- Terry Collins managed Craig Biggio for three seasons with the Astros from 1994 to 1996. In that time, Collins figured it would only be a matter of time until his All-Star second baseman would become a big league skipper.
"I always told him, 'one of these days you'll be managing in the big leagues,'" Collins told Newsday. "And I hope you'll get one of these guys like you on your team."
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Mets' Brooklyn team eliminated from playoffs on final day
Monday marked the last day of the minor league regular season. The Mets' uppermost five affiliates finished a combined 367-269 (.577 winning percentage). Every team's final individual record was also over .500.
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TRIPLE-A – Las Vegas 51s (81-63)
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Terry Collins 'a little surprised' at lack of trade talks on Bartolo Colon
MIAMI -- The Bartolo Colon trade watch has been postponed until the offseason.
The Mets did not deal the veteran righthander before Monday's deadline for waiver trades, ensuring that he will remain under team control for the rest of the season. But in the winter, the Mets once again will be expected to explore trading the 41-year-old, in hopes that they'll find more fertile ground for a deal.
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"We're probably going to get him another start here," manager Terry Collins said on Monday, when he mentioned the possibility of a six-man starting rotation.
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Long Island's Cam Maron promoted to Double-A Mets
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TRIPLE-A – Las Vegas 51s
The skinny: Roger Bernadina hit a one-out, bases-loaded sacrifice fly in the bottom of the 11th to lead Albuquerque over Las Vegas, 12-11. Las Vegas had held an 8-0 lead after the top of the sixth, but Albuquerque struck for six runs in the bottom of...Read more »
Mets' Cyclones tied for Wild Card lead
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TRIPLE-A – Las Vegas 51s
The skinny: Las Vegas was off.
DOUBLE-A – Binghamton Mets
The skinny: Richmond scored three runs in the bottom of the ninth to beat Binghamton, 7-6.
The standouts:
Brian Burgamy, 3B-1B: 2-for-4 with a walk
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Travis d'Arnaud isn't moving anywhere
The Mets have little to no interest in trading catcher Travis d'Arnaud, a source told Newsday Friday afternoon, nor do they envision moving him to leftfield to protect him from suffering more concussions.
Manager Terry Collins told the Daily News that the idea had been discussed informally though it was not a likely scenario.
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How the Mets got Dilson Herrera, and what scouts believe he can do
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Akeel Morris' numbers are Mariano Rivera-like
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You can check the specific gravity of each cell if you have a hydrometer small enough to use the limited electrolyte volume of your Trojan batteries. The sp. gr. of each cell should be within about 5 points of the average (.05).
Wire gauge as small as 16 can carry 40A without damage. Wire insulation damage may not be evident.
You should be looking for a place that a very low resistance to ground has developed…40A at 12V is 0.375 ohms equivalent resistance. You isolated loads and still had the current flowing and that indicates a near-short circuit to ground somewhere.
The best way to isolate something of this nature is to split your distribution system with switches or breakers or fuses while monitoring your instruments until the condition clears…then split the offending half again…and again…until you find the culprit. Near the end you may have to lift leads to isolate the fault.
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I really like what she's wearing. It's a more youthful style, but still totally age appropriate. She looks amazing.
I could not care less about Doctor Who but holy crap I want Helen Mirren in my teenage girl gang
helen mirren would get me to watch doctor who ABSOLUTELY, but god damn richard ayoade would make me a DEVOTEE.
They do swap sometimes. See the Doctor's Wife. I do think it would change the tone of the show too much but I could be...
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Our weekly photoshoot breakdown is constructed to give you, the reader, the main stage. Each week, we'll highlight the new WWE and TNA photoshoots and give you the opportunity to vote for your favorite. In the next week's post, we'll unveil the winner. At the end of the month, we'll take each week's winner and determine the month's most popular photoshoot. All of this will be determined by you, so do your Diva Dirt duty and vote!Last month's most popular photoshoot belonged to Layla. Brooke Tessmacher's shoot came in second, earning 163 votes to Layla's 288.
Layla's shoot has been crowned June's "photoshoot of the month". Congrats, Layla!
This week's batch of photoshoots feature Aksana, Brooke Tessmacher, Kaitlyn, Kelly Kelly and Rosa Mendes. Click the photos below to see their corresponding photoshoot. Vote in the poll below and come back this time next week to see the winner.
kaitlyn looks a little bit wierd i think it's the hair. i'm not a fan of aksana look. Kelly and rosa look nice and so does brooke. I don't know who to vote for it's too hard lol, i'm gonna go Rosa
Kaitlyn for me.
I voted for Kaitlyn.
I like Aksana from the side view, where you can see her ponytail, she looks kinda old from the front. Kelly and Rosa look great!!!
Rosa… better than previous shoot
Kelly… Am I the only one who think she post same act in every shoot? (but still good)
Aksana… Is she the missing sister of Jessie J?
Kaitlyn… Sweet
Brooke… she's hot but TNA should hire new art designer & photographer
this week I vote… Brooke!
loved the jessie j comment…
Couldn't choose between Kaitlyn & Kelly really. Rosa's shoots and beauty in general are overrated for me. Apologies to who this offends, but Aksana is hideous. I'll be shocked if she gets any votes.
i agree with u with everything !! and i would like to add that kaitlyn looks a little awkward if u ask me
went with kelly kelly…she just made her return to the shoots and she looks great !
Kaitlyn. Kelly's look boring and always the same, Rosa's is ok, don't care at all for Aksana's, Brooke's is eh.
It is just me or does Kelly take the same pictures every week? Don't get me wrong, I think she looks very pretty but she needs to come with something different.
I voted for Rosa because she looked the most natural out of all of them. I don't think Kaitlyn is comfortable with the photo shoots yet. Aksana just didn't look good in that picture and Brooke's shoot was hot but, like Kelly, I feel like I've seen these pictures from her before.
I was going to vote for Kaitlyn because she just looked so cute when she smiles and her hair looks awesome too but her attire choice through me off. Sorry Kaitlyn, I had to give me vote to the ever fabulous Rosa.
I picked Kelly i know she looks the same every shoot but I just really like the outfit on her and it feels like a while since I've seen her in a shoot!!!!
Kaitlyn needs a new hair style.
Aksana needs to stop taking pictures!!!
Rosa is getting a bit old IMO but looks good!
And I'm tired of the Red, White and Blue shoots for Brooke I get that it was the Fourth of July but Brooke CHOOSE ANOTHER GROUP OF COLORS PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
Brooke!!! Her photo shoot is miles better than the other 4. Kaitlyn & Aksana just look too awkward, Kellys just looks boring & Rosa screams "look at me"
Again.. :P
Not really feeling Brooke's, Aksana's or Kaitlyn's. Kaitlyn should really get rid of the bangs and then give them to Eve<3 Kelly gets my vote. Love her clash shirt. Defitnetly doesn't look much different than her other shoots but hey – if it ain't broken, don't fix. Girl looks good <3 Nice return back to Diva Focus, K2.
Aksana <3 i love her ponytail
I prefer Rosa's shoot to the rest, she looks like a Latin America Spanish Rosetta Stone ad.
Kaitlyn or Rosa. Loves Kaitlyn's outfit so im gunna go 4 her.
I voted for Kaitlyn. She's very underrated looks wise and this shoot was just gorgeous!
I love Rosa & Kelly but their shoots are always the same. Don't get me wrong, they look amazing, but I like seeing how some of the other Divas are really growing into their characters and bringing it out in shoots. Kaitlyn, an experience fitness model is somehow bringing that girl next door shyness into the shoots,which is selling a character as well as a look. Women like Layla, Kelly and Rosa rock every single shoot, so I'm glad to see some of the other Divas working the camera.
I don't usually find Kelly Kelly that attractive personally, but this photoshoot of her really blew me away – she looks absolutely stunning. Really dislike Aksana here, her hair pulled back like that makes her look old. Though then again, she is actually kind of old for diva standards anyway, right?
Aksana has been with WWE since she was about twenty eight, which isn't that old (she's 30 now) and she still looked old. I thinks it from all of the weight lifting she did in the past that she could've made her appear more old facially. Layla is like 34 and doesn't really look it. Lol.
Layla is 35 btw….
Lol. Oh one year off :P
Aksanas outfit is just terrible shes got such a big head LOL…..kaitlyn's outfit is just bad & whatever shes putting in her lips she needs to stop…..
Kelly is just the same old same old,pose & facial expression….she looks like shes been ages by too much sun…
Rosa for me…rosas pics say natural & effortless…I love the one of her looking over her shoulder…
Rosa all the way!! All the others look wierd
would usually never favour Rosa but she really works that dress and comes across very easy on the eye.
if i could vote 2 peeps, kaitlyn would deffo get my second vote.
I love Aksanas clothes, i pick her!
Oh Kelly, how I miss you ?
rosa and Aksana get eliminated right off the bat. Just not good pictures.
Kelly is out next becauase it feels like I have seen these pictures before.
I would love to vote for somebody other than Brooke just to change things up but, and as much as I like kaitkyn, the camera loves Brooke.
Got to go with Brooke again.
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The next Summer Book Review Luncheon will be held on July 17. Romance author Anna Kitrell will speak. The August luncheon will be on the 14th, and the speaker will be local author Stacy Shofner Williams. Both luncheons will be held at the USAO Regents Room beginning at noon. Call Christy Clift, 224-5342, for ticket information.
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The Friends of the Library used the proceeds from the 2nd Annual Chocolate Celebration to purchase a new lectern for the Library's Meeting Room. The lectern has a built in sound system, and has a flat top suitable for holding a laptop. In addition, it has a side platform on which to place a projector when making a PowerPoint presentation. Additional purchases will be made in the near future with the remaining funds. The Friends offer to huge Thank-You to all who helped make the Chocolate Celebration a success!
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I've been meaning to update but haven't had the time and motivation, which I know are not mutually inclusive. :)
Valentine's was a sweet day! I promised myself to surprise Jon a bit more this year and I started with flowers! He received an arrangement of orchids, and got serenaded by a singing telegram group and a box of cupcakes. At the end of day, I saw a beautiful set of white roses sitting on Liam's table in the living room. The boy also gave us a card. A lady at Whole Foods gave Liam a pink rose that he hasn't gotten rid of yet.
My sister and her husband are here on holiday for 3 weeks. We all went to Mt. Hood for some snow fun, though I'm suffering from whiplash after I collided with a 6'5" man tubing down a hill. Ugh. Times like this when I worry about my ever delicate bones and think about aging.
Portland had had some nice days but mostly just wet and cold. I've come to realize that it affects me when I compare the weather here with East Coast's. I have stopped doing it for a while now, though not sure why I would knowing it's really great there right now! I can't complain really because it was a mild winter.
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There comes a point in early parenthood when you ask yourself: What are we going to do with all my kid's art? We've kept some from his infant-toddler days and threw a lot. There has been a bit of accumulation again and before I start with my purging, we decided to have an art exhibit. Liam wouldn't sell though! We invited Desi and Julian to come see it, but what was entertaining was when he talked about his inspiration for each piece of work.
Liam also started with his half-dance-half-gym class this month. I was a bit surprised that he was the only boy and the girls were all wearing pink leotards and tutus. They study basic dance moves, rhythm, and gym. We decided to try the class because he enjoys dancing, but also getting physical at gym. He enjoyed his previous class that was purely gym but he started getting bored towards Christmas.
Well, I have to share Portland weather now.
If there's anything that makes me not like Portland, it's the rain. As I write this, it has rained almost non-stop since 3 days ago. I beat myself up for not buying gumboots when they were on sale during holidays. I knew this was coming. I've made mental notes to get a pair and a really, really good umbrella—the kind that can somehow make its way through a gusty day.
I was warned about rain here. The weather here doesn't do a let's-dump-all-this-rain-for-2-hours-to-get-done-with-it. I call it a leak in the sky. It just keeps dripping, like towards the end of a big dump of rain (you know what I'm talking about tropical folks), except it doesn't really end…ha, at least not for hours. I have noticed people wear fancy gumboots here to work. Some don't even bother switching to dress shoes. I resisted that for a while, but it's so sensible that my practicality is reigned in.
Before the rain, there was some lovely snow fall and even way before that was a series of sunny days. The night snow fell and accumulated, Jon and I ran outside to have fun in it. I snapped pictures and tasted snow for the first time. We kept saying how unfortunate it was that Liam missed it. The sky had a luminescent color, which caught my attention as we headed to bed (hence running out to play). I was disappointed to wake up to the beginning of the rain that destroyed the beautiful white scenery all around. Nonetheless, he still played in the slushy snow in the morning. I can't wait for spring really.
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1. Submitters comment: This girl is my friend on facebook and this picture of her lip came up on my newsfeed
2. What's awful: She pierced her own spider bites. I'm pretty sure your lip is not supposed to look like that after it gets peirced… She also does all of her other piercings herself including her collar bones, smiley, frowny, tongue web, and pierces other people for free.
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