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Hillary Clinton has a big smile as she is introduced by Lt. Gov. Anthony Brown.
Hillary Clinton's speech was repeatedly interrupted by about a dozen protesters shouting at her from the crowd, who were escorted out with signs reading "Choose families over politics."
One protester is escorted out by an officer behind her.
It was a group upset over Washington's immigration policies and the deportation of undocumented immigrants who are parents of students who have protections under the DREAM Act.
The protestors later told 11 News that their specific complaint is about a waiver they said the Obama administration is not giving to the parents of DREAM Act children, who worry their parents will get deported.
Shoppers will spend $2.8 billion on Halloween costumes this year, according to the National Retail Federation.
$1.1 billion will be spent on children's costumes
$1.4 billion will be spent on adult costumes
16 percent of people will turn to pop culture for costume inspiration
23 million people will dress their pets in costumes
33 million people will get into the Halloween spirit by visiting a haunted house
162 million people are expected to celebrate Halloween in 2014, versus 158 million in 2013
54 million people will throw or attend Halloween parties
8 percent of people say they will not be handing out candy this year
Overall, $7.4 billion is projected to be spent on Halloween products in 2014
One-third of people start their Halloween shopping before October
One-fourth of shoppers say they'll head to the grocery store for their Halloween purchases
20 percent of people will make -- not buy -- their costumes
Model and television personality Heidi Klum wears a cat costume as she arrives at the eighth annual Heidi Klum Halloween Party in Hollywood on Oct. 31, 2007.
Actress Stacy Keibler wears a Raggedy Ann costume at the eighth annual Heidi Klum Halloween Party in Hollywood on Oct. 31, 2007.
Another view of actress Stacy Keibler wearing a Raggedy Ann costume at the eighth annual Heidi Klum Halloween Party on Oct. 31, 2007.
Actor Hill Harper, star of the TV series "CSI:NY", wears a costume as "James Blond" as he arrives at eighth annual Heidi Klum Halloween Party in Hollywood on Oct. 31, 2007.
Lead singer of the band "Kiss" Gene Simmons sticks out his tongue and points to the crowd as he rides a float in the annual Village Halloween Parade in New York City on Oct. 31, 2006.
Bridget Marquardt displays beads as she rides a float during the Fantasy Fest Parade in Key West, Fla., on Oct. 31, 2009. Marquardt, a television personality who gained fame while starring on the reality show "Girls Next Door" as one of Playboy founder Hugh Hefner's playmates, was the parade's grand marshal.
Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) (right), dressed up for Halloween as Sen. Joe Biden, shakes hands with the real Sen. Biden (D-Del.) before the start of a hearing by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., on Oct. 31, 2007.
Actress and model Paris Hilton, dressed in her Halloween costume and flanked by a bodyguard, avoids the red carpet as she walks behind photographers upon arriving at the seventh annual Heidi Klum Halloween party at Privilege nightclub in Los Angeles on Oct. 31, 2006.
Actress Alyssa Milano arrives at the seventh annual Heidi Klum Halloween party on Oct. 31, 2006.
Actress Elisha Cuthbert arrives at the seventh annual Heidi Klum Halloween party at Privilege nightclub in Los Angeles on Oct. 31, 2006.
Actress Minnie Driver dressed in her Halloween costume arrives at the seventh annual Heidi Klum Halloween party on Oct. 31, 2006.
Actress Jennifer Gareis, dressed in her Halloween costume as a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader, arrives at the seventh annual Heidi Klum Halloween party on Oct. 31, 2006.
Supermodel Heidi Klum, dressed in her Halloween costume as the serpent and apple from the Garden of Eden, poses as she arrives at her annual Halloween party on Oct. 31, 2006.
Actress Marlee Matlin and son Brandon arrive for the Dream Halloween fundraiser in Santa Monica, Calif., on Oct. 30, 2004.
Cher wears a witch costume during her Halloween concert at the SkyDome in Toronto on Oct. 31, 2003.
Actress Maria Bello poses with her son Jackson at the ninth annual Dream Halloween, benefiting the Children Affected by AIDS Foundation (CAAF), in Santa Monica, Calif., on Oct. 26, 2002.
Pink performs during the West Hollywood Halloween Costume Carnaval on Oct. 31, 2002 in Los Angeles.
Actress Jamie Lee Curtis (right) poses with actor Arnold Schwarzenegger after he presented her with the Celebrity Hero Ribbon of Dreams award at the eighth annual Dream Halloween on Oct. 27, 2001, in Santa Monica, Calif. The then "True Lies" co-stars arrived at the fundraising event as children's dolls Nurse Barbie and Dr. Ken.
2011: According to the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs' Population Division, the world population reaches seven billion people.
2008: Author, historian, actor, and broadcaster Louis "Studs" Terkel dies at the age of 96 in Chicago, Illinois. Terkel won the Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction in 1985 for "The Good War" and is also known for his oral histories of common Americans and for hosting a long-running radio show in Chicago.
2006: "The Price is Right" host Bob Barker announces that he will retire in June 2007 after 35 years on the game show and 50 years all together in television.
2006: P.W. Botha, South Africa's apartheid-era president, dies of a heart attack at the age of 90 in Wilderness, South Africa. He's seen here in 1998 arriving at court for judgment in the case brought against him by the country's Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Botha was found guilty of defying a summons from the TRC to appear before it to answer questions relating to human rights violations committed under apartheid and was fined and given a suspended jail sentence.
2001: Microsoft and the Justice Department reach a tentative agreement to settle the historic antitrust case against the software giant. Pictured is then-CEO Bill Gates' videotaped testimony in the case.
2000: Screenwriter and journalist Ring Lardner Jr., who was blacklisted by the Hollywood movie studios during the Red Scare of the late 1940s and 1950s, dies at the age of 85 in Manhattan, New York. Lardner (far right) was the last surviving member of "The Hollywood Ten," a group of movie screenwriters, directors and producers who were cited for contempt of Congress and blacklisted after refusing to answer questions from the House Un-American Activities Committee about their alleged involvement with the Communist Party. Lardner's screenwriting credits included the films "Laura," "Woman of the Year" and "M*A*S*H," with him winning Oscars for the latter two.
2000: Soyuz TM-31 launches, carrying the first resident crew to the international space station. The station has been continuously crewed since.
2000: Actress and singer Willow Smith, the daughter of actors Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith, is born in Los Angeles.
1999: While traveling from New York City to Cairo, EgyptAir Flight 990 crashes off the coast of Nantucket, Massachusetts, killing all 217 on board. With the crash occurring in international waters, the Egyptian Civil Aviation Authority (ECAA) asked the American National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) to handle the investigation. As evidence began pointing to a deliberate crash, the Egyptian government reversed their earlier decision, and the ECAA launched its own investigation. The two investigations would come to very different conclusions, with the NTSB finding the crash was caused by deliberate action of the Relief First Officer Gameel Al-Batouti and the ECAA finding that the crash was caused by mechanical failure of the airplane's elevator control system. Here wreckage is seen in a hangar at a former U.S. Navy base in Kingstown, Rhode Island, on Nov. 1, 2000.
1999: Yachtsman Jesse Martin returns to Melbourne, Australia, after 11 months of circumnavigating the world, solo, non-stop and unassisted. At 18 years old, he became the youngest person to do so.
1998: Iraq announces that it is halting all dealings with United Nations arms inspectors. The inspectors were investigating the country's weapons of mass destruction stemming from Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990.
1997: British au pair Louise Woodward, 19, convicted by a Cambridge, Massachusetts, jury of second-degree murder the day before in the death of 8-month-old Matthew Eappen while he was in her care, is sentenced to life in prison with a minimum of 15 years to be served. Eappen fell into a coma five days after being admitted to Children's Hospital in Boston and died on Feb. 9, 1997, of a fractured skull and subdural hematoma. Woodward's sentence was later reduced to time served (279 days) and she was freed.
1993: Italian film director Federico Fellini, one of the most influential filmmakers of the 20th century, dies at age 73 in Rome, Italy. In the months before his death, he had suffered two strokes and fallen into a coma. Fellini, who won five Academy Awards including the most number of Oscars in history for Best Foreign Language Film, is best known for films such as "La Strada," "La Dolce Vita" and "8½."
1993: Actor River Phoenix, best known for roles in movies such as "Stand By Me," "My Own Private Idaho" and "Running on Empty," collapses and dies of drug-induced heart failure on the sidewalk outside the West Hollywood nightclub The Viper Room at the age of 23.
1992: The Vatican admits erring for more than 359 years in formally condemning Galileo Galilei for entertaining scientific truths such as the Earth revolves around the sun, which the Roman Catholic Church long denounced as anti-scriptural heresy. Pope John Paul II himself met with the Pontifical Academy of Sciences to help correct the record. In 1633, at age 69, Galileo was forced by the Roman Inquisition to repent and spent the last eight years of his life under house arrest.
1988: Romanian-born American actor and director John Houseman, best known for his role as Professor Charles Kingsfield in the 1973 film "The Paper Chase," for which he won an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor, dies of spinal cancer at age 86 in Malibu, California.
1984: Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi is assassinated by her two security guards in retaliation for ordering Operation Blue Star, a military operation to remove Sikh separatists from the Golden Temple in Amritsar, India. In the wake of her death, riots broke out in New Delhi and nearly 10,000 Sikhs were killed. Gandhi is seen here with U.S. first lady Jacqueline Kennedy in 1962.
1983: Football player, coach and owner George Halas, the iconic longtime leader of the NFL's Chicago Bears who was nicknamed "Papa Bear," dies of pancreatic cancer at the age of 88 in Chicago.
1970: Michelle Phillips, formerly of The Mamas & Papas, and actor Dennis Hopper are married in Taos, New Mexico. The two would end up divorcing eight days later.
1969: Wal-Mart Discount City stores are incorporated as Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
1968: Hoping to sway the election for Democratic nominee Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey, President Lyndon B. Johnson cites progress with the Paris peace talks in announcing to the nation a complete cessation of "all air, naval and artillery bombardment of North Vietnam" effective Nov. 1. In the end, Democrats did not fully unite behind Humphrey, enabling Republican candidate Richard Nixon to win the election.
1967: Rapper Vanilla Ice, whose 1990 song "Ice Ice Baby" would become the first hip hop single to top the Billboard charts, is born under the birth name Robert Van Winkle in Dallas, Texas.
1966: Rapper Adam Horovitz, better known as Ad-Rock from the Beastie Boys, is born in South Orange, New Jersey.
1964: Barbra Streisand's album "People" goes No. 1 on the Billboard 200 chart, knocking The Beatles' "A Hard Day's Night" from the top spot. It would stay on top of the chart for five weeks.
1963: Actor and comedian Rob Schneider, a former "Saturday Night Live" cast member who has gone on to star in movie such as "Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo," "The Hot Chick" and "Grown Ups," is born in San Francisco, California.
1961: In the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin's body is removed from Lenin's Tomb and buried in the Kremlin Wall Necropolis next to the Kremlin walls as part of the process of de-Stalinization.
1961: Film director and producer Peter Jackson, best known for the "Lord of the Ring" and "The Hobbit" movie franchises, is born in Pukerua Bay, New Zealand.
1959: Lee Harvey Oswald attempts to renounce his American citizenship at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow.
1956: Rear Adm. G.J. Dufek becomes the first person to land an airplane at the South Pole. Dufek, who was the first American to set foot on the South Pole, was part of an advance party to build the first permanent South Pole Station.
1956: The United Kingdom and France begin bombing Egypt to force the reopening of the Suez Canal.
1951: Football coach Nick Saban, who won a national championship with Louisiana State University in 2003 and three more with the University of Alabama in 2009 and 2011-12, is born in Fairmont, West Virginia. Saban has also served as head coach of the National Football League's Miami Dolphins and two other NCAA universities: Michigan State and Toledo. His championship titles make him the first coach in college football history to win a national championship with two different Football Bowl Subdivision schools.
1950: Earl Lloyd becomes the first black man to play in the National Basketball Association when he suits up for the Washington Capitols. Lloyd (seen here meeting with Vice President Joe Biden in 2010) scored six points and grabbed 10 rebounds for the Capitols in a 78-70 loss to the Rochester Royals. Two other black players joined the NBA that season, with the Boston Celtics drafting Chuck Cooper in the second round and the New York Knicks acquiring Nat "Sweetwater" Clifton from the Harlem Globetrotters, but the Knicks and the Celtics didn't start their seasons until November.
1950: Comedian and actor John Candy, best known for his roles in movies such as "Planes, Trains and Automobiles," "Spaceballs" and "Uncle Buck," is born in Toronto, Canada. He died his sleep on March 4, 1994, at age 43 after suffering a heart attack while on location filming the movie "Wagons East!"
1950: News anchor Jane Pauley, best known for her 13-year tenure on NBC's "Today" program, followed by 12 years as co-host of "Dateline NBC," is born in Indianapolis, Indiana.
1946: Actor Stephen Rea, best known for his roles in "The Crying Game," "V for Vendetta" and "Interview with the Vampire," is born in Belfast, Northern Ireland.
1945: Alfred Hitchcock's psychological thriller "Spellbound," starring Ingrid Bergman and Gregory Peck, premieres in New York City. The movie would go on to earn six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture and Best Director for Hitchcock, winning only for Best Music, Scoring of a Dramatic or Comedy Picture.
1942: Actor David Ogden Stiers, best known for his roles as Maj. Charles Emerson Winchester III in the sitcom "M*A*S*H" and as the Rev. Gene Purdy in the TV series "The Dead Zone," is born in Peoria, Illinois.
1941: After 14 years of work, Mount Rushmore is completed. Sculptor Gutzon Borglum began work on the monument on Oct. 4, 1927, leading 400 workers in sculpting the colossal 60-feet-tall carvings of U.S. Presidents George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln. When Borglum died from an embolism in March 1941, his son, Lincoln Borglum, took over the project through its completion.
1941: The destroyer USS Reuben James is torpedoed by a German U-boat near Iceland, killing more than 100 United States Navy sailors. It was the first U.S. Navy vessel sunk by enemy action during World War II.
1940: The Battle of Britain during World War II ends, with the United Kingdom preventing a possible German invasion. The battle, which began in July 1940, was the first major campaign to be fought entirely by air forces, and was also the largest and most sustained aerial bombing campaign to that date.
1936: Actor Michael Landon, best known for this TV roles on "Bonanza," "Little House on the Prairie" and "Highway to Heaven," is born Eugene Maurice Orowitz in Queens, New York. He died of pancreatic cancer at age 54 on July 1, 1991.
1931: Broadcast journalist Dan Rather, who was anchor of the "CBS Evening News" for 24 years until 2005, is born in Wharton, Texas.
1930: American astronaut Michael Collins, who was as the command module pilot for Apollo 11, is born in Rome, Italy. Before Apollo 11, in which Collins orbited the moon while Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin made the first lunar landing, he also went into space on Gemini 10 in 1966.
1927: Actress and director Lee Grant, who won an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress for 1975's "Shampoo," is born Lyova Haskell Rosenthal in New York City. Grant, seen here in a 1961 publicity photo, has also had roles in movies such as "Detective Story," "In the Heat of the Night," "The Landlord," "Plaza Suite," "Voyage of the Damned" and "Mulholland Drive" in a career that was stalled starting in the mid-1950s when she was blacklisted in Hollywood. Her roles in "Detective Story," "The Landlord" and "Voyage of the Damned" also earned her Oscar nominations. She has also directed movies and several documentary films, including 1986's "Down and Out in America," which won the Academy Award for Documentary Feature.
1926: Magician Harry Houdini dies at age 52 in Detroit, Michigan, of gangrene and peritonitis that developed after his appendix ruptured.
1922: Benito Mussolini becomes prime minister of Italy. He ruled constitutionally until 1925, when he dropped all pretense of democracy and set up a legal dictatorship that would stand until his ouster in 1943.
1920: Jockey-turned-crime-novelist Dick Francis, who wrote more than 40 international best-sellers, usually centered around horse racing in England, is born in Coedcanlas, Pembrokeshire, Wales. He died of natural causes at the age of 89 on Feb. 14, 2010.
1913: The Lincoln Highway, the first automobile road to cross the entire United States, is dedicated. The highway, America's first national memorial to President Abraham Lincoln, spanned coast-to-coast from Times Square in New York City to Lincoln Park in San Francisco, originally going through 13 states.
1912: Singer and actress Dale Evans, best known as the wife and frequent co-star of singing cowboy Roy Rogers, is born under the birth name Lucille Wood Smith in Uvalde, Texas. Evans and Rogers formed a team on- and off-screen from 1946 until Rogers' death in 1998. Evans, seen here with Rogers at the Academy Awards in 1989, died of congestive heart failure at the age of 88 on Feb. 7, 2001.
1911: The practice of Halloween trick-or-treating in North America is first recorded with a newspaper in Kingston, Ontario, reporting children going "guising" around the neighborhood. The tradition of "guising" started as a Halloween custom in the late 1800s in Scotland and Ireland.
1864: Nevada is admitted as the 36th U.S. state.
1860: Juliette Gordon Low (center), the founder of Girl Scouts of the USA, is born Juliette Magill Kinzie Gordon in Savannah, Georgia. Sir Robert Baden-Powell, the founder of the Scouting Movement, asked Low to help form a group of Girl Guides in Scotland in 1911. When Low returned home to Savannah in 1912, she formed a Girl Guide troop there, and when the Girl Guides became the Girl Scouts in 1915, Low became the first president.
1795: Poet John Keats, whose poems and letters are some of the most popular and most analyzed in English literature today, is born in London, England. Among his best-known works are "Ode to a Nightingale," "Ode to a Grecian Urn," "Bright Star" and "On First Looking into Chapman's Homer," however, he found little success during his lifetime, with his reputation growing only after his death.
1754: Columbia University is founded in New York City as Kings College. The Ivy League college is one of the country's nine Colonial Colleges founded before the American Revolution.
1541: Michelangelo finishes painting "The Last Judgment" on the altar wall of the Sistine Chapel in Vatican City. The work, which depicts the second coming of Christ and the final judgment by God of all humanity, took Michelangelo four years to complete, with the Renaissance master beginning work on it some 20 years after having finished the Sistine Chapel ceiling.
1517: On the eve of All Saint's Day, Martin Luther posts his 95 theses on the door of the Castle Church in Wittenberg, Germany, arguing that Christians were being falsely told that they could find absolution from sin through the purchase of "indulgences" from the Catholic Church. Luther's actions would spark the Protestant Reformation.
A.D. 834: The evening of Oct. 31 becomes All Hallows' Evening (which would be contracted to Hallowe'en or Halloween over the years) when Pope Gregory IV moves the feast of All Saints from May to Nov. 1, followed by a day in honor of soon-to-be saints, the feast of All Souls.


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Every now and then, I stumble across an idea so cool and so intuitive that I can't help but feature it. Below you'll find an interview with Sean Fahey, Canadian entrepreneur, founder of Vidcruiter and a very cool story indeed.
Dave Choate: Can you tell me a little bit about how Vidcruiter got started?
Sean Fahey: Well, I used to have a retail company before this. In the recession, we really got affected, so I needed to reevaluate what I was doing. I started working for an insurance company for a brief amount of time. They wanted me to recruit for them.
I started out not really knowing much about that side of the equation. It only took me a little time to see how inefficient it was. My background was, I studied a lot of workflow management, process management, and I see everything as a process. I saw a process that needed to be cleaned up. What I saw was a tool to help with my recruiting.
The insurance company wanted me to recruit 200 people. There was no rush, but If I was doing it faster, I would've made a lot more money. So I thought, "there has to be a tool I can set up where people will sort of interview and screen themselves, and I can interview the most qualified applicants."
I didn't really find any. I thought, "Geez, there's an opportunity here for me to start a business." I had run my company with a good friend who was a technology guy and we had all kinds of really high-tech stuff, so I was using a lot of the most advanced technology out there. (Vidcruiter was born.)
So we started working with recruiters, got a lot of good feedback. There are a couple of variations on what we do that have been out there for a little bit of time. They're doing it differently than what they're doing. They're still saving companies time. There's a handful of competitors and they have some pretty clients. Wal-Mart is doing this, and some other big companies.
We by coincidence…we're more focused on a saas (software as a service) model. Becauase of our technical background, we're able to bring the table maybe more technical things that maybe those companies aren't bringing. They're just targeting it in a different way, and we feel the way we're targeting it is a better way.
We have a more encompassing solution than what they have. Another one of our advantages is that we've had the opportunity to do a lot of different things and try a lot of different things, and we've actually changed our business model a few times. At first, I didn't really understand human resources all that much, and that was a big learning curve for me.
HR is not a big profit center, companies don't usually spend a lot of money in HR. Even if you're bringing a lot to the table, it's just not something most companies spend a lot of money on. We had to re-evaluate our sales strategy, and we changed to a much more favorable for HR departments.
Dave Choate: If I'm an HR department, or I'm an applicant, how does this process work for me? Can you kind of walk me through it?
Sean Fahey: Well, you're either sent from a link from the job board or you go directly through the recruiter. It depends on the type of position we're talking about, there's two different scenarios.
The applicant is either interviewing themselves by either typing their responses or responding by webcam. The recruiter…you show up on Monday morning, and maybe 30 or 100 people have interviewed themselves, which normally you would have had to do manually. The amount of time savings in getting that information is huge. Some applicants screen themselves out automatically. In 1-2 minutes (by reviewing interview and Vidcruiter metrics), you can tell they're not qualified. You've saving a whole bunch of time.
When you save that time, you get the focus now on quality. In the normal hiring process, you might get 100 resumes. You get it down to five finalists, or you might not have enough time to do that. Now it's like you can get to hone in on those five people, and you can really focus on those five people. You spend three to four more times focusing on that group than you currently do, if not more.
I know companies lose tons of money if they hire the wrong person and train the wrong person.
Dave Choate: Do you believe this is the future of the hiring process, or is it something that's going to evolve with time?
Sean Fahey: This is the future of hiring, there's no doubt in my mind.
Dave Choate: Do you see this evolving in say the next couple of years, or is this the big thing?
Sean Fahey: There's always that social media piece. Right now, you're using your job board, you're screening applicants, filtering them, screening them, you have a whole bunch of them and they go through the hiring process. I do notice a lot of people talking about social HR.
They've been predicting job boards are going to disappear for a long time, and they're still here. I think there is a focus on finding more and more efficiencies in the hiring process, and that's where we're banking on. This is as close as I've gotten to predicting the future.
People don't like change. Your'e changing their process a little bit. They're not thinking in terms of "how can I make my job better," it's thinking "I don't want to lose my job." There is some resistance. I thought when we were going to start it was going to be easy and everyone was going to be on board….but there's a lot of resistance there. That's one of the reasons we changed our business model and introduced the free trial. How do you say no to something that is free?
That is the reason that this is…I don't think it's going to be suddenly "boom," everybody's jumping onto the bandwagon. It's going to be a slower process. We're looking to build a long-term business.
We're in the long haul. We've built a strategy that works for that. We are changing our strategy to look for affiliates, in the form of recruiters, to help us expand our market share.
There's always that social media, so our position is…you're using your job board, you're screening applicants, filtering them, screening them, you have a whole bunch of thetm and they go through the hiring process. I notice a lot of people talking about social HR.
Dave Choate: Just a sort of wrapup question here. You're an entrepreneur yourself and a business owner, and you've got an idea you believe in. What advice would you have for small business owners who have those ideas they really have faith in but maybe aren't quite there yet?
Sean Fahey: One thing that I heard that was pretty good about being in business was that a startup never fails, it commits suicide.
In other words, the owner decides it's not worth it, I'm not doing this any more. Everyone who has had a company at some point has had that thought. I've even seen, not the Facebook guy (Mark Zuckerberg), but probably everybody else. Even Steve Jobs, I saw the old interview with him, and he said he thought this was not going to work at times.
You just keep going. I've had that in a couple of businesses, I'm like "yeah, whatever." It's just that not quit attitude. If you know that you are doing something that makes sense and should logically make money, then at some point it will.
These people that have ideas for businesses go and pitch them to investors. I saw these guys go up there with an idea for a litterbox house. They had spent $750,000 of their own money into this business. Investors are looking at them and saying are you ridiculously dumb, so you should get advice to make sure your business is logically going to make money.
If you have that, then you should never quit. You could be just one big contract away.
Many thanks to Sean for taking the time to speak with BizEngine. Be sure to check out Vidcruiter today, and let us know what you think of the interview!
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SPINESHANK drummer Tommy Decker recently posted the following update on the progress of the recording sessions for the band's forthcoming album, "Violent Mood Swings":"I just wanted to let you know what the latest news on the recording is...We have laid down the drums to 15 tracks and I have 2 more to do today. I have been doing about 6 takes on each song, then we use the best one. We hope to have all the drums and bass done by Wednesday, November 6, so we can concentrate on everything else. We seem to be on schedule and hopefully we can get this record out A.S.A.P. - April/May 2003. "The studio [Hollywood's Henson Studios, formerly A&M Studios] we are recording in is pretty cool. It's owned by Jim Henson productions, so there's all kinds of muppets and Kermit the frog stuff everywhere. Little Tommy is enjoying it, and the staff at the studio is really cool. We had a chance to meet George Lynch from DOKKEN, and saw David Lee Roth, who are also recording right now. "That's pretty much it for now, the songs are coming out better than we had hoped and we are really excited about this record. We move to a different studio on Thursday, where we will finish the rest of the record. Like I said, I'll be done today, so I have nothing to do except sit in the control room like I own the place and talk shit to the rest of the guys (tell them how much they suck). I will keep you updated on the new developments."
SPINESHANK: New Album Coming Out 'Better Than Expected'
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Forest Hill School is a thriving comprehensive boys' school. We have an enormous amount of experience in teaching boys and our highly professional, committed staff provide opportunities for our students to flourish across the whole curriculum. We are proud to combine traditional values with innovative teaching methods and state of the art facilities to ensure that our students develop both academically and personally, and to allow them to continue to realise their potential in our co-educational Sixth Form, SFH6.
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The National Federation of Independent Business last week announced its endorsement of Republican Dee Adcock in the 13th Congressional District.
The Republican Party of Pennsylvania is criticizing Tom Wolf, the Democratic candidate for governor, for a television ad that references the bipartisan transportation bill signed last year by Gov. Tom Corbett.
Former state Sen. Frank A. "Hank" Salvatore is being remembered as a family man, a tireless fighter for his constituents and a powerful force as the only Philadelphian in the Republican caucus.
City Councilman David Oh has a lot of good ideas to make Philadelphia a better city, but the elimination of "resign to run" is not one of them.
Abraham Lincoln High School senior Brandon McKenna last week organized an assembly for juniors and seniors to encourage them to register to vote.
There was an elephant in Commonwealth Court Senior Judge James Gardner Colins' courtroom last Thursday, but Daylin Leach's campaign manager insists it wasn't him.
Dennis Kilderry announced his candidacy in the 173rd Legislative District during a Saturday morning news conference at Tacony's Roosevelt Playground, where he serves as president of the advisory committee.
State Sen. Anthony Williams last week held a fundraiser at Tio Pepe restaurant, at 6618 Castor Ave.
Three years ago, my son was accepted into Northeast High School's Magnet Program. I didn't know what to expect and was a bit apprehensive because it is the biggest high school in the city, and I worried that he would get lost in the shuffle. I sat in the auditorium at back to school night and listened to the principal, Ms. Carroll, talk about "her school" and "her kids." She told us that we were welcome to walk into "her school," unannounced and she would walk the halls with us. It was apparent to me that this woman had nothing to hide, no worries that her school wouldn't be running up to par on any given day.


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2 Chainz is not that different ... he's just another TERRIBLE rapper ... this according to former "MADtv" star Aries Spears.
Spears was walkin' around NYC yesterday when we asked about the current state of hip hop -- and for some reason, AS unloaded on 2 Chainz.
"I think 2 Chainz SUCKS," Spears said ... adding, "Have you heard the lyrics? All I want for my birthday is a big booty ho? Get some better rhymes 2 Chainz."
Spears continued ... "[2 Chainz] said when he shows up to the scene, he shows up with his roof missing, he's different . N**ga's driving a convertible ... if you wanna be different, show up in a horse and buggy."
FYI -- not everyone feels that way ... 2 Chainz has been nominated for multiple Grammys this year ... including Best Rap Album.
2 Chainz is a hot ass mess. Plain and simple.
2 chains better never do no crimes, all they'd have to do is follow the drip.
Who? Another d-bag flippin his lip!
ALL rap is pathetic and ignorant. People that like it can't distinguish bad from good, so it's no surprise he was nominated.
He's right, 2 Chains sucks. Of course he's nominated for a few Grammy's. You win when there's no other horses in the race that are worth a chit.
ctfu at showing up with a horse and buggy and as soon as i clicked on this comment no lie came on. lls
Chainz who?
Wow, that was..."Different." Someone should tell this Lil Jon meets Lil Wayne wanna be that different isn't always good.
2 Chaniz is cool..Those nursery rhymes knock...OWWWWW
Aries spears is ugly...
ALL rap sucks.
rap = dumbing down of america
Is this garbage one of the songs he's nominated for?
Aries is right. Dude is straight garbage
Heard if him never heard his music if Aries says hr sucks them i believe it.


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When I started devoting myself to trail running, I thought it meant a permanent adieu to my mountain bike and all those amazing experiences. But just when running started to get really hard for me, I got an unexpected rescue in the form of my singlespeeding muscle memory.
See, I was beginning to think my body wasn't made for this kind of grind. But one day, while slogging up a fire road in the heat, I began to feel a familiar sensation. The rhythm of a singlespeed climb. All I had to do was imagine myself astride my old bike and that was it.
For reals.
That simple mental trick has added a couple miles to my runs.
Turns out there are a few things in common between trail running and singlespeeding.
Every run starts with that slow warmup as I grind through the fog and the aches and the pains.
Steep hills. I used to love, love, love them on my One 9er. Out of the saddle, finding a nice, bouncing rhythm and settling in for the long grind. Now as I slog up the steep singletrack on foot, I Imagine myself on the bike. It's an old visualization trick from my ancient triathlon days, actually, but it totally works. I found that it even helps to hold my hands out as if they're gripping the bar extensions as I settle into a loping, grinding rhythm. Heaven.
Oxygen-deprived, sweating buckets heaven.
Patience on the flats. Boy, my slow running pace certainly reminds me of spinning along in my 20 tooth while getting passed by the geared set. But hey, it means I get more time out there on the trail. At least this is what I tell myself.
One missing part of my running skills is still descending. I'm not as courageous on foot as I was on wheels. As I obsess about the possibility of twisting my ankle, I regularly get passed by gazelle-like, shirtless dudes bounding down a steep, rocky trail in 3 or 4 leaps without a care in the world. Someday, perhaps. Also, descending on foot is like riding a fixed gear. There's no coasting in running and once momentum gets you flying down a loose trail, slowing down can be a daunting proposition.
Did I say there were only a few things in common? I've actually realized that they have more in common than not.
It also helps that the single speed I had on my singlespeed was"slow."
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Full Disclosure
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Well, you said too many things at the same time about Full Disclosure as
list and as concept, about Microsoft and about script kiddies that I
finally did not understand what you meant.
Are you trying to say that full disclosure is only useful for script
kiddies ? If it's what you meant, it would be nice from you to tell us
what we have to do... In my views, full disclosure may cause problems,
but it is still the best solution for preventing mass attacks and for
reporting bugs and holes. If you got something better for alerting other
administrators and being well informed, feel free to tell me!
The other thing is about Microsoft... Well, if you think that the
Microsoft's politic is a danger for the user's security and for your
own, all you have to do is to change your environment and choose a free
Unix like Linux or *BSD. Where's the matter ? In fact, we can not force
users to leave Windows and Microsoft (or simply proprietary) products,
but you, and everyone of us, can stronly recommand theses ones. And I'm
sure that it is a good solution for every open-minded administrator or
user that likes freedom.
We spend our times discussing the flaws in developers coding and
saying "a s cript kiddie can do this" how can we stop script kiddies
from doing X.
Let's look at script kiddies. Where do you think they get information
from to be script kiddies? I'll tell you where. From lists like this.
Yes, this list is pro-active in the discussion of preventing attacks
on various network, systems, and softwares by script kiddies.
How much of a percentage of discussion and disclosure on this list is
actually counter acting script kiddie hood and how much is actually
aiding them to carry out further malicious activities across the
internet on a global scale?
Yes, you can use this list to make vendors aware of a security
situation. Although how many users are updating straight away and how
many users are unaware of a flaw.
I think security lists are geared up more at the vendor patching X,
than making the consumer aware of a security flaw and asking them to
Microsoft Windows. How many consumers know of flaws and the need to
update as-it-happens. How many consumers read online articles from,
for example Cnet News? Hardly any.
Leaving the script kiddies to a hackfest of compromising home and
small business network's and computer's for months, going undetected.
Corporate network's and computer's obviously don't apply, because they
are watching list's like FD like a hawk. Though for the average
consumer. It is likely your computer will be taken over and zombified
by scripts run by script kiddies.
FD is only informing corporations and not the average user. Even
corporations and developers cannot alert the -majority- of average
users to a security flaw, which need's an urgent patch implemented.
Most average users will still be vulnerable to flaws FD was disclosing
more than a year ago.
F**k Microsoft.
They (Microsoft) need to start using "Auto Updating" home and small
business network's, and it doesn't matter about the critics who say
it's a breach of privacy and you have no right modifying a users
computer. At the end of the day, we are talking about the spawning of
very large bot net's owned by script kiddies, who can easily take down
internet back bones and take out key infrastructure, which the very
existence of the internet depends on.
FD or BUGTRAQ can't save us now. Only Microsoft can. Implement Auto
updating software for security patches without delay.
I don't have much faith in Service Pack 2 (The overhaul of Mircosoft
All of these Microsoft exploits will be the death of the internet one
day, when script kiddies decide to execute the mother of all denial of
service attacks against the internet. Trust me, bot net's big enough
are paused and waiting for such a day.
Microsoft will have big legal costs if it can be proven a Microsoft
flaw was the main vulnerability used.
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Bill Niman and Nicolette Hahn Niman: Experts in Residence!
- davina Jul 2, 2009 09:53 AM
Nicolette Hahn Niman and Bill Niman are going to be in residence on Chowhound starting Monday, July 6, responding to questions and comments right here on this thread about sustainable agriculture and Nicolette's new book "Righteous Porkchop," and perhaps sharing a few cooking tips for goat! (Goat is what they're raising now, under the name BN Ranch.)
Nicolette Hahn Niman is a rancher, attorney, and writer. Much of her time is spent speaking and writing about the problems of industrialized livestock production, including the book "Righteous Porkchop: Finding a Life and Good Food Beyond Factory Farms" (HarperCollins, 2009). Previously, she was the senior attorney for the environmental organization Waterkeeper Alliance, where she was in charge of the organization's campaign to reform the concentrated livestock and poultry industry; before that, she was an attorney for the National Wildlife Federation.
Bill Niman is a cattle rancher in Northern California, the proprietor of BN Ranch, and founder of the natural meat company Niman Ranch, Inc. He was a member of the Pew Foundation's National Commission on Industrial Farm Animal Production, which released recommendations for reform of the nation's livestock industry in April 2008. In 2007, "Vanity Fair" featured him in its Green Issue and "Plenty" magazine selected him as among the nation's five leading "green entrepreneurs." Niman co-authored "The Niman Ranch Cookbook" (Ten Speed Press, 2005), which was selected as one of the year's best cookbooks by the "New York Times," "Newsweek," and the "San Jose Mercury News."
Start asking your questions: The Nimans will be checking in at least once a day from July 6 through July 10 to respond. Bill and Nicolette have lots of experience in food policy, sustainable agriculture, and ranching. Some ideas for what they might discuss:
-Is it possible to eat well and sustainably in a bad economy? How?
-How do I locate sustainably farmed meat, and how can I afford it?
-How do a vegetarian activist and a meat rancher eat together?
EDITED: adding a link to the Nimans' blog over on theatlantic.com: http://food.theatlantic.com/on-the-farm/
Great opportunity- thanks to CH and the Nimans! Suggest you also post this on the Home Cooking board.
Let's start by posting the following...
The first link is to the first chapter of Righteous Porkchop. (aka The Divine Swine)
I'm interested in knowing what is fed to the beef cattle? Also, which breeds of beef cattle are bred and fed, and how many head are annually raised to market weight? What weight do the cattle reach before they are ready to go to market?
Thank you for your consideration of my questions.
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Regarding feed. Generally, when cattle are on pasture, they are eating naturally occuring vegetation. From an environmental and human health perspective, well managed grazing is one of the most beneficial ways to produce food.
However, when cattle are put in a feedlot or drylot, they will be fed a wide variety of things, depending on who is raising them and where they are located. (For example, in Nebraska, a lot of corn is fed whereas in Alberta, barley is used). Unfortunately, for conventionally raised cattle, not all of what's fed to cattle is stuff that most people would want in their food chain. In Nicolette's book Righteous Porkchop she gives lots of examples of some of the unsavory stuff used in cattle feed. It includes antibiotics, meat by-products, chicken feathers and urea. The main ingredients of cattle feed include grains, hay, and silage (usually that is fermented, chopped corn). By seeking out beef that is "naturally raised" consumers can avoid buying meat from cattle fed antibiotics and meat by products. By seeking out "grass fed beef" consumers can also avoid cattle fed grain. We do not believe that it's bad to feed some grain to cattle, but this must be done carefully to avoid various health problems in the animals.
Regarding weights. The weights at slaughter vary greatly depending on who's raising them. Typical grain finished cattle go to slaughter at between 1050 LBS and 1400 LBS. The variation depends largely on the breeds in question as well as the gender and age of the animal. Most grass-fed beef goes to slaughter at a lighter weight.
re: greygarious
The premium beef breed in France is Charolais. I know that these cattle are raised in the U.S., but have never seen them promoted.
re: greygarious
Bill and Nicolette Niman here again.
The most important thing to know when purchasing beef is the way the animal was raised. How old it was at slaughter, what it was fed, and the enivronment it lived in are some of the important points to understand. Additionally, how it was handled when it "went to town" (at the slaughterhouse).
There are breeds that have been selected over generations for one quality trait or another. What is known about Aberdeen Angus (Black Angus) and the other breeds of catle raised for meat that were developed over the last several hundred years in the UK, is that they were selected for one purpose -- how their meat ate. The breeding lines were not kept because of how much milk they produced, how big their calf was, or how large a plow they could pull. The primary criterion was how their flesh ate from a flavor and tenderness viewpoint.
The Angus Beef Cattle breed association has done a great job of promoting (perhaps overpromoting) their breed as the standard of excellence. In my opinion, Hereford Beef (another British Breed) is the equal and the cross between the two breeds is the best. A good indication in the cattle industry of the relative value of Black Angus vs Herefrod is the price tag on the purebred bulls. For the first tim in many years Herefrod Bulls are more expensive than Angus. That confirms what cattlemen have known for a long time now and that is that there is now a lot of quality variation within the Angus Breed and what may appear to be an Black Angus is just a black version of other cattle that have not been carefully selected for eating quality rather for color and other insignificant factors that have nothing to do with eating quality.
Back in the 1950s pork & specifically pork chops became my absolute favorite meat because my Dad grilled pork so well. Today I never buy pork because when I roast or fry or grill it, it always turns out dry and tasteless.
My question is: Is Heritage Pork a throwback to the succulent meat of the 50s and 60s?
Thank you for conducting these dialogues!
re: RedTop
Bill Niman here.
What makes great tasting pork, the way it used to be, is when pigs are raised outdoors. Pigs regulate body temperature utilizing a layer of backfat beneath their skin. They do not have sweat glands or fur coats. The backfat keeps them cool in the summer and warm in the winter. Oh, and by the way, it correlates directly with intermuscular succulence and flavor.
The "other white meat" industry has done a great job of breeding the backfat out and creating a "lean generation" that didn't need to worry about staying warm because they lived their entire lives in climate controlled buildings. What the modern pork industry didn't concern themselves with is that backfat and intramuscular fat are essential to juiciness and flavor.
Any pigs that get the chance to live outdoors and still have some of the traits necessary to survive the Minnesota winters will be reminiscient of that wonderful pork that many of us remember and seek. Most of the breeds that can still do that are considered heritage breeds because they can get fat and therefore taste great. Be careful, though, because if you put those pigs indoors and deprive them of a natural environment they quickly become "the other white meat" -- the dry and tasteless variety.
re: NicoletteHN
Hi Bill. Thanks for your feedback. Is there any directory of "real pork" one can go to to get natural pig meat? The problem most people have in most parts of the country, is that they don't know where their meat is coming from. It is nice to say that people should be selective in their purchases of meat, and only buy "wholesome meat," i.e. meat that is certified organic, or direct from a farmer they trust, or is from a farmer's market. I do that most of the time, but tonight I was at Trader Joe's, and they were offering a really good price on a rib steak, and it was late, so I bought it.
I think there should be a labelling law instituted, which tells everyone where their food is coming from. A sticker on every fruit (they already do it in the banana and avocado industries), a way to trace where the food comes from. It would go a long way toward creating trust in the quality of the product, and would also give the government a way to track foodborn illnesses, hopefully in a way that would pinpoint contamination and not decimate whole industries with the ocassional farm's failures.
re: NicoletteHN
Thank you for your reply, Bill. I'm off to find a Michigan farmer, or two, that raise hogs in an outdoor environment.
re: RedTop
Nicolette Niman here this time.
Michigan has some excellent outdoor pig farms. I am from Michigan and Bill and I have visited about a half dozen traditional pig farms in Cass County. The pigs were running around on spacious pastures, grazing, raising their young outdoors, and fed only natural feeds. Some of those pig farmers are selling their hogs to Niman Ranch. Some sell their meat at the farmers market. Your local farmers market is a great place to start your search! Have fun!
re: NicoletteHN
I am in Vacaville, Solano County, California. Aren't you in Sonoma? I see many of your products at Nugget Market, but no pork chops! We have no pork in our farmer's market (but we can get lamb in Yolo!), I can try Vallejo farmer's market. Any other suggestions for "good 'ol pork" around here or Sacramento?
re: Shrinkrap
Shrinkwrap, unless the Nimans have decided on an encore, the question period has expired. A big thanks to them for sharing their expertise!
re: greygarious
Thanks to you AND them!
What are some of the best meat producers internationally? What makes them better than their peers in the same country or better than their international brethern?
Is it possible, land-use wise, to return to feeding cattle their natural feed, i.e., grass, hay, alfalfa, on a national level? How would such a shift impact the economy (i.e. if corn/soy were no longer used as feed for cattle and/or other food animals)?
Just for elaboration, I will link this thread http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/629921 discussing a recent article that talks about how research has shown that if the diet of cows is changed from corn/soy to alfalfa, flaxseed and grass, the cows themselves produce less "greenhouse gasses" and suffer from fewer stomach ailments. It just seems to be common sense -- feed the animals the way they were designed to be fed, and you will have a better product, a healthier animal and less environmental damage to the land. But, in the past 40 years or so, our entire food production system has changed to be more efficient, to the detriment of the animals. How can we reverse this?
re: LRunkle
To add to LRunkle's question, how do you see political moves such as California's recently passed proposition which bans "factory farmed" eggs, chicken, pigs and the like impacting food production locally? Can the industry remain competative, comply with such regulations and remain local?
1. A question about lamb (goat being rather rare in the US except in certain ethnic markets): I read conflicting reports about how much of the mass-marketed lamb in US supermarkets (coming mostly from the US, Australia, and New Zealand, and perhaps some from Iceland, not sure if any comes from Canada) is pastured (grass-fed) and what proportion of that is grain-finished: do you know how much is so and if it varies significantly by country of origin?
2. A question about rabbit: would rabbit be a contender to promote for a lower-impact source of mammalian meat?
What ten purchasing suggestions would you make to the average middle-income American family who is struggling in this economy?
Meaning...first steps anyone can do.
re: maria lorraine
I'd like to add on to this since I'm surprised there has not been more discussion about prices. I always hear people using the excuse, if you care about your body you would find a way to save the money to buy better food. Well I can tell you being one of the many families facing unemployment (and before then on a tight budget) I have trimmed all I can. I fed my daughter exclusively organic until she was two and a half and it was not practical to make her separate food anymore. I'll still buy her certain organic items but meat is just way out of our budget. Even cutting back how much meat we eat, natural meats are too expensive. It kills me because I believe so strongly that it is important to put good food in your body but are there any other options when you can't afford it? Do you see prices ever going down or a way to change the system to make it more mainstream without degrading the quality? Thank you!!
re: elliora
Bill and Nicolette Niman here.
(Some of which are easier to do than others but all of which are worth consideration...)
(*But first, we should note that we think cost to the consumer is a very important question. In fact, it's one of the most important barriers to changing the practices of the current industrialized meat and dairy industries. It is true that meat and dairy from pasture-based, natural farms often costs more money. The reasons for this are complex and are closely related to government policies (at federal, state and local levels) that encourage industrial production. But that does not help the consumer who's trying to carefully watch his or her budget and eat healthy foods. With that said, here are our suggestions on how to do that.)
1. Reduce consumption of meat, dairy and fish products. Most Americans eat far more meat and dairy than is nutritionally warranted and this is the most expensive part of the American diet. We refer to this as "moving meat OFF the center of the plate." By cutting down on the number of times you eat meat, dairy and fish AND by reducing portion sizes of those foods, you can keep buying naturally raised meat and dairy without breaking the bank.
2. Shop and eat in harmony with the seasons. For every food that is naturally raised, (and wild game, seafood and fish), there is a "season of plenty." During that season of plenty, the foods are available at a lower cost and it's a great time to get bargains on healthful, delicious foods. Various websites now offer guidance on what's in season when. A walk through a farmers market also tells you what's in season.
3. Plant a garden. If you have a yard, terrace, or even a window sill, you can grow your own organic vegetables, herbs and fruits cheaper than you can buy them. It's also a great way to get fresh air and exercise.
4. Keep a flock of laying hens. At the dawn of the 20th century, even cities had loads of chickens. "A 1906 census showed that in urban areas there was one chicken for every two people" (Righteous Porkchop, p. 40). More and more cities are again allowing people to keep chickens -- a great way to get cheap, organic eggs and chicken meat.
5. Cook more. Food that is prepared at home from raw ingredients is cheaper than prepared foods (and better tasting and more nutritious!)
6. Shift budgeting priorities. Americans spend a smaller percentage of their budgets on food than any other developed country. In France, for example, people spend about 14% of their income on food. In the US, we spend about 9%.
7. Buy cheaper cuts of meat. The so-called "middle meats" (e.g. pork loin, beef tenderloin) are the most commonly available in supermarkets, but are not the tastiest and are the most expensive. By learning about the lesser known cuts (e.g. beef tri-tip, pork shanks) and how to prepare them, you can save a lot of money on your meat.
8. Buy whole chickens (instead of parts). Roast the whole bird or cut it into parts at home. You'll save money and get better quality meat. Use what's left to make stock for soup and sauces.
9. Buy foods during low demand periods. For example, at Christmas, prime rib and tenderloin are in high demand while the New York strip steak is in relatively low demand, so this it's a good time to buy it if you're looking to save money. Another good example is pork spare ribs and babyback ribs -- they are in high demand in the summer grilling season and are much cheaper outside of that time period.
10. Eat organ meats. Liver, hearts and kidneys are highly nutrious and can be purchased at a relatively low cost. Even a very tight budget can afford these from naturally raised animals. Learn how to cook them and you'll have great, nutritious food.
re: NicoletteHN
Great ideas but some are not practicable for many urban or sub-urban dwellers. More and more residential communities are prohibiting the growing of fruiting trees and even the growing of a vegetable garden because it tends to attract vermin. Some places even prohibit composting. Raising poultry is not permitted in a great many municipalities. Seems people do not like to be awakened by cawing foul at 0'dark-thirty.
re: KaimukiMan
Au contraire, mon frere. The trend is the other way. More and more municipalities that adopted such ordinances mid-century are now repealing them. Several of our good friends in cities and suburbs are part of this growing trend.
re: NicoletteHN
I would be curious exactly what citites are allowing poultry.
Going along with that, when urban dwellers get their chickens, exactly how do they dispatch them?
My grandparents grew up in the country and had chickens and some of the tales my father told of killing the chicken still give me nightmares. Not to mention that de-feathering and dressing a chicken are not the easiest of tasks.
I would think quite a lot of education is also needed. I live in a Latino neighborhood where many families illegally raise chickens. We have had some disease outbreaks. And as KaimukiMan pointed out, waking up seven days a week to the neighbors rooster isn't always pleasant. They start crowing way before dawn.
While I agree that, if one chooses, you can continue to eat naturally raised on a tight budget, that also takes some education. I did a month-long experiment to eat mainly organic for a month on $3 a day. It is doiable, but not easy. Are the advocates of natural food doing anything to reach out to people who aren't already part of the choir?
re: rworange
"I would be curious exactly what citites are allowing poultry."
minneapolis & st paul both allow poultry. . . . i'd think most smaller green cities would, and that only suburban places/gated communities would have bans. it takes no more "education" than keeping a cat or dog at your house.
assuming you don't have people illegally raising fighting cocks, waking up to chickens is pleasant. heck of a lot better than waking up to gunfire, imo.
re: soupkitten
Also, quite a few ordinances disallow roosters, but allow hens, which is what you want for eggs anyway. It's the roosters who are quite noisy.
re: soupkitten
Wow. The people living near me are hard-working first generation families that use eggs and chickens for food to help stretch dollars for raising their children. Way out of line comment, soupkitten. No gunfire here. And obviously you have not been awakened at four am by a rooster who crows incessantly from that hour.
As mentioned, unless someone is raising a pet chicken, there is way more to learn about raising chickens than a cat or dog. And if the end is near for pets, there's a vet to take them. Few people take their pet to the chopping block or some other thing.
The neighbors ckickens that got out of their yard, passed along some bugs to my cat which also restulted in a nasty rash for me ... I could have bought a truckload of Foster Farms chickens for those vet and doctor bills.
In the last century, when people raised their own chickens and kept gardens, people were moving to the city from the country. They had te skills to know how to do this. For the generations who have known nothing but city living and have grown up eating canned and frozen food ...well, dealing with a live chicken requires some education.
The point is that while I am grateful there are people who take effort to change the way we eat.for the better, there is a gap with getting the message out and disconnect about how a big chunk of the population actually lives.
Perhpas elliora, will be one of the minority of people who will cut back on serving organic and natural meat to be able to eat better.
However, in this bad economy, the natural path is going to be to drop the pricier organic foods. Then as the money gets tighter to stretch the factory meats with fillers. And even then there are going to be few people switching to lesser cuts like liver.
Price matters. That's all.
re: rworange
Wow. The people living near me are hard-working first generation families that use eggs and chickens for food to help stretch dollars for raising their children. Way out of line comment, soupkitten. No gunfire here. And obviously you have not been awakened at four am by a rooster who crows incessantly from that hour.
i was referring to my own living situation. i very much prefer waking up to the sound of my neighbor's rooster in minneapolis now than i did waking up to gunfire in my former st paul neighborhood. i feed the chickens daily btw--and eat their eggs in my own household. no offense was intended toward your neighborhood or neighbors. sorry to hear about your rash.
re: rworange
My understanding is that most cities that allow egg-laying chickens, also disallow roosters. As for localities, Los Angeles allows chickens to be kept in many parts of the city.
re: rworange
I grew up in Queens, New York, in the seventies, with a neighbor who's rooster crowed regularly!
Now I am in a relatively, newly suburban part of California, growing all manner of things. I just asked my husband about getting chickens but we we afraid they will fall in the pool...or get snatched by coyotes or foxes...then turkey vultures.
Well, We have soulfood farms nearby!...
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re: DanaB
That's a terrific site even if you have zero interest in raising chickens. i has a lot of info about different breeds of chickens.
It also has a list of towns where chickens can be kept and the restrictions. Who knew you could keep as many chickens as you want in NYC
http://www.omlet.us/guide/guide.php?v... Chickens&sub=state laws
Also great as a starting point to anyone interested in rasing chckens. The site is geared toward egg-laying pet chickens. The recipe section is egg-related. No fried chicken recipes. They even have a chicken joke section ... a good deal devoted to chicken crossing the road variety such as how famous people would answer the Why did the chicken cross the road.
Colonel Sanders:
I missed one?
re: rworange
I looked at that site since I sometimes think about the possibilities - but 2 hens, a coop, and a bag o'chow run nearly $1000!!! For that price they should be laying Faberge eggs. If I ever went through with it (probably won't since 2 dogs have high prey drive) I'd buy the birdies at the local poultry farm.
re: rworange
Oakland allows chickens, no roosters.
re: NicoletteHN
Because of my ethnic background, Chinese, I grew up eating organ meats. However, it is difficult to find organ meat from pastured animals. There is a vendor in my local farmer's market who sell grass-fed beef; however he doesn't sell the cheaper cut, such as beef tendons, beef tongue, etc. Would you recommend some resources both for organ meat, beef and pork, and also good farmers/ranchers who also sell the cheaper cut? Thanks.
What are your opinions about the volume and frequency at which Americans consume meat? Do you think it's responsible, environmentally and health-wise, to promote a "meat at every meal" mentality, and if not, does the conflict of selling a product vs. acting on conscience move this decision at all for sustainable meat farmers?
I'm mostly curious because I'm a vegetarian who isn't morally opposed to humans eating meat, but I have a serious distaste for the meat industry and thoughtless meat consumption. I know that you guys are not exactly the mainstream meat farmers, but I would love to hear discussion and ideas from the omnivorous side of the table.
re: LOLTofu
Bill and Nicolette Niman here again.
The question of the quantity and frequency of meat consumed in the US is something that we both talk about publicly about quite a bit. Our view could be summarized as follows: "Eat less meat. Eat BETTER meat." Obviously, we consider meat that is healthfully raised (without hormones, subtheurapeutic antibiotics, and raised on pasture) to be extremely nutritious food. That said, most Americans are eating far more meat, poultry, and dairy then they need from a nutritional standpoint. For example, here's an amazing statistic from Nicolette's book Righteous Porkchop: the per capita US consumption of cheese has gone from about THREE pounds at the beginning of the 20th century to about THIRTY-ONE pounds at the close of the 20th century! At the same time, meat and dairy production is rescource intensive and therefore, from an environmental standpoint (as well as personal health standpoint) should not be consumed in excess.
re: NicoletteHN
Wow, that cheese stat is jaw-dropping. I feel like there is a lot of misinformation out there when it comes to nutritional know-how and the American public. I wonder what strategies could be employed to break down some of the eating myths to which many people cling.
re: NicoletteHN
Maybe - I hope - some of the increased cheese consumption reflects a decrease in meat consumption. I was born in 1949 into a middle-class family. In our home, I'd say that a typical dinner portion of meat was 6-8 ounces, and there was NEVER a dinner without meat, poultry, or fish. A sandwich lunch added perhaps 3 or 4 oz. to daily meat consumption. Today, I average 4-5 oz. of meat per day but since cheese is often the protein for lunch and/or dinner, I certainly eat much more dairy per year than I did 40 years ago.
re: greygarious
Well, surplus cheese has long been subsidized part of food assistance, to replace meat. That kind of assistance did not exist a century ago in the US.
Beef and poultry crossed in cost-value terms in the 1970s: so many people today do not realize that "a chicken in every pot" about which Herbert Hoover waxed in 1928 (and King Henri IV of France over 300 years earlier) was something that was special to Sundays because chickens were too precious as egg layers to devote to meat, while American beef was relatively inexpensive. As Americans have migrated to lower fat animal flesh (poultry and leaner pork), we've made up for the loss of fat in the flesh by adding it back in with cheese....
Then there are other trends that were but a glimmer in the eye a century ago: for example, pizza and cheese-heavy American adaptations of Italian and Mexican cuisines.
would you please talk about pink veal/rose veal, and explain a bit about who and where in the u.s. there are farmers producing pink veal, and why consumers may wish to support this. i think that if the info comes from you fine folks, people will seriously consider it. if it comes from someone like me, not so much.
lots of questions about grass-fed vs grain fed already. perhaps grain fed is the only thing available for some products and in certain areas, but sustainable small-scale farming does quite well in other areas. do you think that it's reasonable for urban folks, or folks who otherwise prefer to "eat local" to get meat, (not poultry) and/or cheese shipped to them from farms/areas with strong sustainable ag?
what needs to happen to get sustainable food into institutions, such as schools, in america? along the same lines, what are a few of the most important changes to food policy/farm bill, etc. that would help to transform the current u.s. approach to food production from the factory farm model to a more sustainable model?
Bill Niman, please explain the reasons why you yourself no longer eat Niman Ranch products?
can organic/sustainable operations become too big? are big business and sustainable practices incompatible? what can big ag learn from small farms, what can small farms learn from big ag?
looking forward to a lot of interesting discussion. thanks Nimans, Davina, and chowhound mods that be.
re: soupkitten
Bill and Nicolette Niman here again.
We'd like to address your question about veal. Most veal in the US comes from the dairy industry. It is the male calves of dairy cows, who obviously have no value as milk producers. Using male dairy calves as veal is a sensible system. However, unfortunately, the vast majority of the calves raised for veal in the US are raised in continual confinement, many teathered at the neck and/or in small wooden crates. They are taken from their mothers within hours of birth, never allowed to graze on pasture, and are fed a manmade veal formula that includes animal byproducts and is usually medicated. These are practices we find objectionable.
An alternative to this system is to raise male dairy calves on pasture with their mothers or on pasture but fed real mothers' milk. A small number of farmers in the US use this method and this is usually marketed as "Rosy Veal". However, it is important to note that some "Rosy Veal" is fed formula.
It is also the case that some farmers raising beef cattle send young beef animals (6-9 months of age) to slaughter and call this Rosy Veal. We do not favor this practice as we believe that beef cattle animals should be raised to maturity, thus feeding far more people for every animal life that is taken.
What do you think about scale when it comes to farming? The historical trend over the past 40+ years is to industrialize farming, however, we've seen the problems with that with the recalls of the past few years where the crops of whole regions were decimated over the uncertainty of the FDA in tracing outbreaks of e coli and the like, such as the recall last summer of tomatoes, then peppers, then finally it was determined that the cause of contamination was green onions from Mexico. What do you think about instituting traceability of farm produce? Is large-scale agriculture working, when such recalls come into play and put an entire region's crops into question? There is a movement called "ag of the middle," which advocates for mid-sized, diversified farms over large farms. Here's one website: http://www.agofthemiddle.org/ Would love to hear your thoughts on that.
When you are buying raw meat, what are some of the physical characteristics that show quality? (in terms of smell, colour, texture, fat distribution)
re: ipsedixit
Bill Niman here.
Here are my favorites:
on the grill is outside skirt steak,
BBQ is bottom sirloin flap meat (bavette),
roast is top sirloin, and
braise is bone-in shortribs.
We haven't talked much about pig-rearing here yet. Can you tell us a little about what breeds you have experience with and what sort of practices you're familiar with (what sort of forage terrain, age/weight at slaughter, diet etc)?
I'd also like to hear your thoughts on the whole issue of certification or labeling. What does 'pasture fed' or 'naturally raised' at the grocery store actually mean? Aren't these terms rather arbitrary with regard to meat? Do you think they should be more regulated?
This is really wonderful, thank you Nimans.
re: BHK
Nicolette Niman here again.
See our response above related to heritage pork.
Regarding labelling and certifications, this one gets sort of tricky. In my book Righteous Porkchop I devote twelve pages to this subject (pps. 224 - 236). I recommend reading that section (and indeed the entire chapter, which is called "Finding the Right Foods".)
Obviously, I cannot perfectly summarize what's in the book in just a few sentences, but let me try to give a few bottom lines for those of you that won't have a chance to see the book.
First, the best possible environment for ALL farm animals (beef cattle, dairy cows, pigs, sheep, turkeys, chickens, egg laying hens, etc) is pasture. In our experience, animals living on pasture are the healthiest animals and produce the tastiest, most healthful foods. So the that's the gold standard.
However, none of the labels (including "free range" and "organic") give complete assurance that animals were raised on pasture. Unless you see the words: "Raised on pasture" or other words to that effect, you cannot be certain that the animals were kept on or given access to true pasture. This is one of the reasons we like shopping for meat at the farmers market or through Community Supported Agriculture (CSAs). This allows you to ask specific questions about the conditions your food was produced in and to get knowledgable answers.
If you cannot find foods that were produced on pasture, organic is a good second choice. Many organically raised animals ARE raised on pasture and all organically raised animals are fed only organic feeds that do not include medications. Organically raised animals are also NOT given growth hormones. These are all very desireable things.
Finally, if you cannot find pasture raised or organic dairy, meat, and eggs, at the very least you can avoid buying foods from animals that were fed antibiotics, a practice that has been shown to contribute to antibiotic resistant bacteria, including in the foods produced.
Why is it that meats raised the way they used to be --- fed with grass/corn, free to roam the ranch, no drugs/steriods --- now cost much more than does meat that comes from huge "factories" that use all kinds of methods I would think were more expensive? There was only one way to raise a cow 100 years ago, and all it took was some grass and an open field. Now, science has made that method nearly obsolete. What gives?
re: DrBruin
Bill Niman here.
Overall, I don't think that the beef from Wagyu is better than the British breeds, namely Angus and Hereford. However, it is different in that it is generally more marbled and has a milder (less beefy) flavor. For me, it's a bit like eating a stick of butter. Because the carcass tends to be so marbled, many of the cuts are too fatty. The American version of the Wagyu is often half Angus, so it may be less fat than the Japanese version.
re: NicoletteHN
Thank you Mr. Niman! I think it's great you and the Mrs. are volunteering to do this.
I've always wondered this: if all the beef we eat in the US were raised on pasture, how much land would we need? And if the world ate only pasture-raised natural beef instead of grain-fed, feedlot beef, how much beef per capita would the world have room for? I guess the essence of my question is this: how much sustainably-raised beef consumption can the planet handle, given that each cow needs a lot of room?
Thanks so much for doing this Bill and Nicolette! Here's my question:
Lots of people are aware of the inconsistent/misleading/unhelpful labeling systems that go on in the US regarding everything from produce to eggs to meat. I've recently found eggs that are "Free Range" "Certified Organic" AND "Certified Humanely Raised". While that might feel like a triumph, there's still issues with beak cutting, etc, but I feel like short of raising chickens myself (not so likely in a 4th floor apartment in Brooklyn), I'm doing mostly what I can.
Can you explain what labels I should be looking for when it comes to meat in the US so that I don't feel like I'm doing a terrible job of keeping both sustainability and animal welfare in mind? From what I understand, "organic" meat only means it's fed organic feed, but has nothing to do with how the animal is raised...it's all very confusing. Help? Anyone?
Update -- I just realized I posted something really similar to BHK's question above...sorry for duplicating!
re: StephanieCoffey
As an addendum to that excellent question. I live in Australia and am horrified by how poorly treated animals are in industrial agriculture. Though I am also absolutely delighted by the lengths some farmers here go to ensure that animals in their care receive a decent quality of life.
The problem, as has been alluded to, is that it is hard to make a decision as a consumer because we lack that information that I would like to use to support ethical farmers.
I am interested in any tips for lobbying strategies that you may know of that have resulted in successful measures to introduce objective and accurate labelling of meat, be it a voluntary code or legislative reform.
re: StephanieCoffey
Nicolette Niman here.
In response to Stephanie's question about labels and certifications, please see my response to BHK (above), which I've just posted.
Bill and Nicolette:
Just wanted to give you three cheers for your courageous fight against the less benign aspects of corporate agri-business. Thank you for your continuing efforts. Please note that Bill was featured in an article on the blog site Apesphere, http://www.apesphere.com/blogchannel/....
Hi Bill and Nicolette,
Great discussion! Nicolette, I couldn't put your book down, and had to read it straight through. Can you update us with what has happened since you left Waterkeeper Alliance as it relates to their focus on industrialized hog-farming? Have other organizations taken up the cause? Finally, can you recommend a website, or websites, that identify pasture-raised meat?
Many thanks!
re: pikawicca
Nice! Thank you...
re: WhereFoodiesGo
You're welcome.
re: pikawicca
Nicolette Niman here.
Thank you for the kind words about my book Righteous Porkchop!
Regarding the guides question, another good one is www.eatwellguide.org .
Regarding the work I did on livestock pollution while at Waterkeeper, that work does continue, although there are not as many organizations working on it as I would like to see. Most importantly, there is still very little government enforcement of environmental laws against polluting livestock operations. For things to really change, this needs to be corrected.
How does wild boar compare to humanely-farmed pork in terms of both flavor and ethics? I used to think hunters (unless they lacked the finances to purchase storebought meat) were the incarnation of evil, but have come around to thinking that it's better for an animal to lead a natural life until a quick, sudden death. So while I still abhor the idea of killing animals as sport/entertainment, I am no longer totally anti-hunting.
Oops - should have included this in the previous post: Are bison any moreor less cost-efffective to raise than beef cattle? Since the meat is tender and flavorful considering how little marbling it has, I'd be happy to see it sold fresh in more supermarkets than now carry it. I sometimes mix ground bison and ground beef but have never heard of it being sold that way.
Bill and Nicolette Niman here.
We have really enjoyed this discussion. We're sorry we did not have the time to respond to ALL of the questions but we do appreciate all of the questions we received and thought it was a very good discussion.
As mentioned above, you can follow our future food and farming blogging on The Atlantic's website at http://food.theatlantic.com/on-the-farm/ . Also, for those of you interested in learning about how your meat is produced we encourage you to read: Righteous Porkchop: Finding a Life and Good Food Beyond Factory Farms (www.righteousporkchop.com ), which is loaded with information about how things are done now, how US meat production got to this point, and what the alternatives are.
re: NicoletteHN
I just got Righeous Porkchop from the library in Madison, WI today (I put in on my list after this discussion went up) and an am looking forward to reading it. Thank you so much for reading and responding to the questions posted on this board; it was a worthwhile discussion :-)


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