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$140 million for volcano monitoring?
No problem: let's also cut all U.S. goverment funding for hurricane monitoring, earthquake "prediction", weather forcasting, flood prevention, farm subsidies and disaster relief of any kind. Let's get the government out of lives…. we can handle it….
Very encouraging to hear from Gov Jindal after President Obama. I admit it was inspiring to see an African American President addressing this nation – and doing a good job of it. But Gov Jindal's vision is a better vision – empower the people of America not the government. May we see more real character in our country rather than compromise. I will pray for both of them and all our elected officials.
My god (*IT's) shrinking… thank you lord… "Dave will I dream when I'm asleep, I'm not sure Hal, you have to wake up 1st!" Would some one please, please turn out the damn lights… I can't aford the milk and bread any more!
Comment by Come on down… have I got a "NEW DEAL II"… for you? – February 24, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Very interesting comments from the Republican Governor. If the Republicans had such great ideas that work so well, why aren't we in a better financial position after the last eight years??? A bunch of nonsense…why don't they call it what is….give all the breaks and the money to the wealthy so they can stay wealthy and keep all the middle class and lower class down so everything is status quo. That's they're real agenda. Period.
So Bobby Jindal's idea of "wasteful spending" includes trains, government motor pools, and volcano monitoring? He's against monitoring volcanos? Is he against monitoring hurricanes and floods, too?
Jindal's speech was the worse I have seen from him. He apeared weak, unsure and juvinile with his delivery. Not good at all.
Seriously? A campaign speech about his upbringing? Empty rhetoric about wasteful spending? from LA? Blah…. I don't feel reassured.
We won,the Republicans must fall in line or be left behind.
I'm against monitoring volcanos, hurricanes and floods. I'm for monitoring snow storms.
Assuming the volcanos to be monitored are in the US, especially the Cascade Mountain Chain, I'm all for it — and I am a Republican! Can any of us really imagine what will happen if Mt. Hood goes the way of Mt. St. Helen's? Even worse if Mt. Rainier blows!!
Gov. Bobby Jindal is going to learn a lot about
"volcano monitoring" in the next several weeks.
He may receive letters from Alaska, Oregon, Washington, California, and may even receive
offers of volcano education from South America
or Indonesia. I suspect the FAA will also be
in touch with him to be sure he understands
what volcanic ash does to airplanes.
'Some Geology Training' what good does monitoring a volcano do? We already have seismographs and other measures to determine possible activity. What the heck is $140 million going to do if 'Mt Hood goes the way of Mt. St. Helens?' Seriously, do you think that any money the govt spends will keep the mtn from collapsing, from trees being sent down hill like speeding freight trains and from volcanic ash not killing hordes of animals and wiping out entire towns? Come on man, get some reality here. And Robert, with the 'Republicans must fall in line or be left behind.' Guess we Americans and the Brits and the other Allied forces that fought off Naziism should have just 'fallen in line' since the German people were in support of Hitler? I guess its Either for us or against us, huh?
What a guy. Good for you, America.
Guess "WHO"! you made my day….
1)"If the Republicans had such great ideas that works so well, why aren't we in a better financial position after the last eight years???"
Republican tax cuts are
2)"give all the breaks and the money to the wealthy so they can stay wealthy and keep all the middle class and lower class down so everything is status quo"
Poor old Jindal – he had to follow a great and powerful orator. His point about empowering the individual night have made some sense if he explained how millions of people were going to get a grip on the economic problems. Rise up with pitchforks and torches? Burn the banks? Slay Dr. Frankenstein's monster?
Now if he could only have followed the dim witted Bush he might have sounded better.
Coming from one of the poorest states in the US, "refusing government help", one of the highest illiteracy rates in the US — if not the highest, huge state deficit, "didn't mention the money for education", key gripe? Volcano monitoring? Give me a break. I don't see people lining up to move to his state because "American's can do just about anything if we put our mind to it?" Yeah, with ideas like this America can turn the clock back for it's people just about 250 years…Bring on good old King George.
After 8 year of deregulation and 5 trillion more in gov't debt, the Republicans are asking us to follow their failed policies. The GOP has adopted a policy of borrow and spend and hope for trickle down. The result the rich are richer and the poor are poorer. The middle class is no better off and will shortly be a lot worse off
Isn't Gov Jindal the same guy who a few days ago said he was not going to accept government help from this new package. So because he is a die hard Republican running for President four years from now the people of his poor state have to suffer.
Sayonara to you Bobby and your Republican friends. The super star plays for the other team.
Good lord. Who taught some of you your economics? No wonder America is going down the tubes. The reason why Volcano monitoring isn't good is because it's not economic stimulus! It may belong in one of our national science industries but not as part of an economic stimulus plan! Don't you get it? Economic stimulus is supposed to be one with sound macroeconomic principles – not a spend thrift package for special interests. That is the discretionary budget. Holy smokes – with these kind of responses, America is doomed.
After 8 years of the Republican Jumbo Sizing Government; starting a senseless immoral war and failed economic policies, they pick Gov. Bobby Jundil to lecture us on how the country should a run recovery from a financial disaster that ocured on their watch….give me a break!
Dream on Jindal- and the rest of the GOP- you are the ones who put us where we are now-
where I am I to wisely invest the dirt you have left me witgh?
The story Jindal gave also reminds us that people will do what ever they are told, and in the world of business and economics if the government does not tell them what's right and wrong, they will do ANYTHING they want to get more money. Even at the unfair expense of others.
I'm all for the American people being strong but the Republicans are relying on Neo-Classical economic bull about educated and rational actors within the market. They forget that most people won't act rationally to do what's best for others in the market and some won't even help themselves. That's why we need government oversight.
Some of us may not like it but the future is more government involvement.
Did he really use the incompetent government response to Hurricane Katrina to illustrate why the Reupublicans have a better vision of the role of government? The half-hearted admission that Republicans "went along" with earmarks that created deficits sounds a lot like "the devil (Domocrats)made us do it!"
Good grief, all those folks concerned about Volcano monitoring don't get it. It should not be part of the stimulus package, repeat it those in congress still want to wastefully spend money on their favorite projects so they'll get re-elected, but don't make it part of the stimulas and make my grandkids pay for it. Make it part of a democratic earmark that continues to make government bigger and more wasteful.
I'm pretty sure the first two comments are plants.
John Maynard Keynes was really happy to hear Obama's speech, which was general but made a very good case for government spending.
But then he saw "Bobby" (if that is his real name) Jindal speak, and now he's puking in his grave again.
I got better delivery from a used car salesman, last time I bought a car.
And hello, Bobby, fiscal responsibility isn't even a Republican platform anymore.
It's the obvious ideal that we all fall short of.
But if the last few years have proven anything, it's that you CAN create value out of thin air (borrowed or printed money) as long as you bundle it with confidence.
The current crisis is the cocaine hangover. Meaning that the confidence we've been selling was always short term.
2006 DOW at 14000,
2008 DOW at 7000,
America can't stand 2 more years of Democrap leadership
admit it, Bush made this country the mess its in and Obama will clean it up…give him a break, he is the best president we have had and will take awhile to dig us out of the mess the bush administration put up in…73 year old lady from omaha has lived to watch it and had to lose all the savings, funeral buriel and $$ she has…when does it stop…I don't even have a roof over my head and having to live with a friend as can't afford health care and give us some hope PLEASE!!!!
when one is trying to stimulate the economy volcanic and other natural disaster monitoring is not quite mainstream economic thought…but who knows maybe its the next big thing in economics
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Spot on! This is about stimulating an economy that BOTH parties dropped the ball on. Volcano monitoring and the NEA will not spur job creation.
I thought that the speech was uplifting. He reminded us that it was AMERICANS, not the gov't who made this country. All Obama wants to do is make us a socialistic country. Give the working people's money to those who don't work. How does that help our economy? Everyone is quick to point fingers at everyone but themselves. The people of America are just as much to blame for all of this as anyone else. We spent more then we made, wanted bigger homes, better cars and we couldn't afford it. The gov't is taking that same approach to "help" us out of this mess. I don't see how a train from Vegas to LA is going to help me. The only person it helps is the majority leaders' state-and they want me to believe there were no earmarks. The mkt reveals that these plans aren't going to work to "save" us.
Looked and sounded like Mr. Rogers talking to pre-schoolers. All he needed was a sweater.
I just love how everyone "blames Bush". How simple! Was Obama in the senate and vote for TARP? Was the congress controlled by Democrats who passed TARP? The press won't cover the Republican plan. It was run through the Democrat economic model and came out costing less, nearly doubling the number of jobs, and taking effect almost immediately. Bi-partisanship? Where? Lipservice. Oh, yeah, you won. It's yours now.
first of all how can you blame everything on the republicans while clearly results of the first new deal are catching up with us now in the form of overused welfare systems, cheap housing that helped cause a market collapse and for volcano spending is not an economic stimulous, no matter how much we spend we still cant prevent it, and if you remember correctly Clinton enacted the orginizations that have caused our banking systems to fail and in turn have caused the world to go down with us so dont put all the blame on one party this is America not Republicana so democrats dont be immature and childish learn how to accept some of the blame that is rightly yours
Wow….Pretty scary that we have forgotten the principle of letting the winners win. If we really want parity in our society, lets all follow the example of those that succeed rather than give our freedom to win, to a government concerned only about its continued existence and control. We are a nation of people, with the right to succeed or fail based on our personal choices.
What we heard from Jindal wasn't a Republican response as much as it was a personal campaign speech. And a truly disappointing one at that. Jindal appeared small and out of step with the overall temperment of the nation.
How can you say that Obama is our best president ever? he hasnt even been in office two months, hes not the savior yet everyone talks about him as if hes perfect and blameless while he is actually putting this country into more debt with his so called "stimulus" package
This guy looked like a banjo hitting utility infielder from Class A ball being asked to bat cleanup in the World Series. Sorry Bobby, you are not ready for The Show.
Unfortunately, the leftist mainstream media will bury Gov. Jindal's sageful and historically supported speech, as it uplift's the banal, empty platitudes that Pres. Obama is adept at bloviating.
Most of these comments are just unsubstianted opinions. Let's look at the facts. We know low taxes and small government are better for the economy than high taxes and big government. This has been proven time and again. So while you're fawning over what a great speaker Obama is, just remember, he's leading us down the wrong path. The more he spends, the longer and deeper this recession will last. Economic history proves it.
Seems like most of the people commenting hear need a lesson in economics and the stimulus. Watch "Super Volcano" and you will see that Yellowstone and all other volcanoes are being measured. in addition, like some others have mentioned, it is not a stimulus. Also, for those who blame the republicans, look back at the last few years and ask yourself, who ran congress? Pelosi and Harry "failure is an option" reid. They ignored all the signs. If you fail to understand the basics here, and your only comment is to blame others, your comments becomes a non-value add, just like the pork in the stimulus. If you do not like opposition, then you are easlily led astray by whomever has the best story – either way, you give up your freedom to think for yourself(assuming you have the courage to do so)
Although the delivery was awkward for Jindal, who is a much better orator, the message was extremely refreshing. It seems that those criticizing Jindal cannot read or have problems listening because he himself chastises the Republican party for failing the past 8 years. Its leaders have not been committed to the core principles of the party (i.e. small government and fiscal conservatism). Those that have a problem with his message that the way to "strengthen our country is to restrain spending in Washington, and empower individuals and small businesses to grow our economy and create jobs"
are probably the same people lining up to get their handout, who I would personally not hire in my business. Do the research on Bobby Jindal to see what he stands for and what he has accomplished.
I agree with Bobby in his basic approach to the economy. Unfortunately, thanks to W's inept policies, the republicans will have to work for 20 years before they will again have any credibility.
If Jindal is the best that the GOP can do, they might as well get ready to consolidate in the five Southern states that will be the only states they win in the next couple of elections. "Good old boys from LSU, went in dumb and come out dumb too." ~ Randy Newman
Americans spent more than they earned by almost 5% of their income over the last decade. That is the real reason why the economy is in tailspin. Now President Obama, our first true socialist President, is attempting to fix our problems by doing the same thing with the U.S. Government. Does it make since to anyone out there with common sense? The Japanese also attempted to fix their banks in the early 90′s the same way President Obama and it failed miserably. At some point the banks, the auto industry, those who over-spent on homes and credit cards, and the socialist Congressional lackeys of the President will realize that they are bankrupting America and destroying the futures of our children and grandchildren!
I love how the mindless idiots just parrot every stupid and unsubstantiated claim that the Obama-mania media parrots.
Last time I checked the last 8 years — with the exception of the past 5 months — haven't been all that bad.
Also Bush's tax poolicy and regulation are more or less like Clinton's. And we would've seen this downturn had Greenspan not brought down interst rates to such low levels that sparked the housing boom and of course eventual bust. And speaking of housing booms — a week wouldn't go by without me having to read about "racist" bankers who don't lend to minorites the same as they do to whites; and that lending standards should be lowered. In fact Acorn lobbied for such efforts. So use your head instead of being another lemming. Millions could've gave Obamas speech
We do not need more government. We need to enforce the laws we have. If oversight is going to be effective, ALL must comply. That means the polititians must be held just as accountable. If the population of this country is disillusioned it is because our leaders have no accountability. I remind you that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi did have fillabuster ability throughout the Republican years of majority. In fact, they stopped constructionist judges and they stopped calls for GSE reform in 2002 and 2006. We have never seen a true attempt at reforming Social Security and Medicare. The answer? Socialized medicine,economically in-efficient Green Technology and stonger control of the failed educational system by government sanctioned unions!! What are we listening to?! The end of Liberty.
Would any one like to start a new country and go back to the real princples the US was founded on? Where people were accountable and had to be self reliant. What a joke the current state of the nation is.
Just goes to show you that a well intentioned but inept and misguided politician who is a great orator can win over a capable leader who can't talk as well.
Unfortunately, we all have to deal with the consequences.
The overarching problem the Repubs have w/ the actions of the Obama team is that they keep rewarding the behaviors that got us into this mess. Do none of these men have the balls to tell this nation we need to bite the bullet and let those w/ failing credits, mortgages, and overwhelming debt, including both individuals and businesses, simple swallow in their irresponsibility. Free handouts don't stimulate an ecomony nor does it fix this behavior. It all boild down to accountability.
Stupid stimulus package + dulling of the American spirit via socialism + demonization of anyone making over $150-200K (gee, isn't that the WSJ demographic) = sad times to come.
We need Volcano protection, we need trains, we need most of the things in the bill. The real questions that need to be asked,is a Trillion enough for all these things? The other is can Washington make sure that these things are built? It does not matter what party you support. From a business stance, can the money cover the promises?
Height of hypocrisy blaming the government. Hey Jindal aren't you "the government"? Lower taxes anything else in that hip pocket from this Rhodes Scholar? You guys are beyond stale and this is coming from an EX-Republican.
So, because Bobby Jindal is the son of an immigrant, and earned his way to be governor, he doesn't know about America? This many is the true personification of the American Dream. And, since he has taken over as governor, he has greatly improved the schools and the business climate of the state. Louisiana had tremendous problems before he got there, and in his time he has made change. He is a proven leader, and someone we can be proud of. Let's look at Michigan… What has the governor their done? Has that state gotten better or worse?
How can we believe Obama?
1. He campaigned for over 2 years on the promise that his first day in office he would order the troops home. Instead he sent 17,000 additional troops to Afghanistan.
2. Obama said he will cut the deficit. In reality, he has enacted the largest spending bill in the history of this country.
3. Barack Obama wants to "bring back accountability". Yet he has repeatedly chosen cabinet members who don't even pay their taxes. And his excuses for our new Treasury Secretary would not work if any of the rest of us had left our taxes unpaid for eight years.
4. Barack claims to want bipartisan cooperation. Instead, he has added pork to the spending packages that no respectable Senator or member of Congress would ever approve. Apparently his idea of cooperation
If you are too blind to see that by Obama having the wealthy pay for the majority of his programming he will further divide this country, I feel sorry for you. Those of us that have invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in our education are already paying more taxes due to a larger take home pay. If you don't like your lot in life get off your butt and do something about it! Oh, and Carter's administration spurred this reckless lending back in the 1970's so you can get off the Republican's and President Bush. This has nothing to do with which Party you identify with and everything to do with this country.
Bush was not a republican, so stop saying the Rebpublican's screwed everything up – Bush screwed things up, not the republicans. Republican's believe in smaller federal government and fiscal restraing, with lower taxes. Bush only accomplished the tax part and actually went against Republican principles with a bloated government. And don't forget the Democrats ruled the house for the past two years. The ecnonmy was fine until they took over.
Now Obama will grow the federal govt even more than Bush did, but with higher taxes for all, starting with the "rich" (i.e. $250k+) and when that is not enough money to fund all his programs, he will start taxing other hardworking people.
I sincerely hope this helps
We don't need to spend money on a Vegas to Disneyland train. California got themselves in this hole, they can dig themselves out. Maybe they can cut the Hollywood paydays and ask Speilberg and Lucas to help build it.
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4. Barack claims to want bipartisan cooperation. Instead, he has added pork to the spending packages that no respectable Senator or member of Congress would ever approve. Apparently his idea of cooperation is for all the honest lawmakers to cave in and sign on to the spending that will bring our nation to collapse.
I'm a conservative, and therefore didn't vote for a republican or democrat last election. I believe in myself, and for someone to place their trust in a government with an insane history of corruption, and blatant waste of our money, is unbelievable. I mean just look at history, both parties scandal after scandal, lie after lie, war after war, and the american people still vote the lesser of two evils. Problem is, the common denominator is evil. Wake up you bunch of sheep, and stop voting for these two parties, which have us all in a chokehold, and they got us bickering amongst ourselves, divided into two pastures, giving you the false sense of choice between the two. Wake up, take your country back.
More of the same old rehashed Republican mantras! I want a new kind of Republican that can speak to reality instead of repeating same-old-same-old which really cascaded us downhill in the last eight years. We need Republicans who look for what is best for the nation, not what is best for the GOP. Yes, the problems didn't start with Bush II, they started with Reagan and deregulation. We need a new Republican party with new voices!
Does anyone really believe that the way to solve the debt problem is to create more debt??
Oh my gosh! I heard the speech and I am ready to absolutely throw up. It really doesn't matter who you want to lay the blame on for our economic mess, there is plenty of blame on both sides of the aisle. We have to fix it. Obama is going to drive us down the road to ruin with these policies. What happened to his reaching across the aisle. When it came to the stimulus bill, Pelosi told the Republicans that the Democrats had won and they, the Republicans, would not be allowed to help write the bill. Obama and his minions are giving us change all right. Just hope we can survive the next 4 years.
I think I see a lot of back-and-forth over the volcano monitoring and who ruined the economy, etc. Obama is a great orator, without a doubt. He has text-based charisma, but bumbles on real-time questioning. Just because he is a great speaker does not mean he is a great leader. So far, let's look at his leadership:
1) $787bn spending bill, which contains a massive hunk of cash for programs that do not belong in a stimulus bill. I'm not saying these programs (like volcano monitoring) are not needed. They are simply not stimulative.
2) $275bn for paying people's mortgages. What about the rest of us who do pay?
3) TARP 2 is in the works. The first one did a great job, didn't it?
4) Double-speaking about cutting off NAFTA, but telling Canada we're all good.
Anyone see a trend?
So you want more welfare? You want higher taxes? You want the government to tell you what health care procedures can be done? Or, do you want your health care decisions to be made by you and your doctor? Perhaps you would like people to earn a living, yes? Or, are you one of those that wants a handout?
First, Jimmy Carter created the CRA. Second, it was Bill Clinton who deregulated the banks with the repeal of the Glass Steagall act in 1999. That law allowed for the megabank mergers and allowed banks like Citi and BOA to take on enormous risk. Perhaps you didn't know that Clinton signed HR 4577, the commodity and futures modernization act that essentially let derivatives avoid regulation. I didn't expect you to know any of this because it isn't ever reported.
I appreciate Jindal's response to Obama's "government is everything" promises, which are unrealistic.
Will the liberals never learn. Rather than gloating, they should monitor what they are doing very closely. Over step your "authority" and you will be out on the street. with your fat retirement plan.
I guess the leadership in Congress (i.e., Democrats for the last 3 years) get a pass for saying "Freddie and Fannie Mac are stable and in no need of restructuring". In addition, these same leaders (e.g., Dodd and Frank) pushed the "a house for every Americans" using these institutions as the tool. Given the housing market is at the root of the issue and the fact that millions of Americans got loans (backed and made easy to get by these govt backed institutions) they could not afford, you'd think someone would say "hey, shouldn't there be some blame targeted to the guys who actually write legislation??". If you look at the "housing bailout" it's more of the same from those wonderful Dem leaders – give a safety net to the same people that couldn't afford their mortgage to beging with.
I just don't understand liberals who think that the government is the solution to everything.
I ask every liberal, what was your last experience like with a government agency?
Ever been to the post office?
Ever been to the DMV to get your license?
Ever tried to get a passport in under 3 months?
Ever faced a zoning issue?
Ever tried to get a building permit, even for your own house?
Ever tried to ask the IRS a simple tax question?
I could go on and on. The government (whether it be federal, state or local) is the most inept, inefficient, bureaucratic entity in existence. Sometimes it is just about impossible to get anything done. Not to it is almost impossible for government employees to be fired, which is why they are so worthless.
Volcanos, hurricanes, tornadoes ARE apart of the economy. Wait till one hits YOUR area and see what it does to your economic state. THINK PEOPLE. Trying to prepare for them and the steps to take to monitor them is why its important. What kills the economy is when the president has to go to congress for a big fat check to send to those states who are affected. (ECONOMY) GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Louisiana has had political issues because in the EVER long history of this state it was run by DEMOCRATS! I for one have been proud under Jindal.
I love all these comments about how BJ's star power or oratory skills can't compare to Barak. That's how "adults" actually think and vote. Sad. As proud as I am that America elected a half black president, I just wish that he didn't turn out to be another typical blowhard that's all talk, little detail, and loves to spend my money.
Why can't we stop taking money from our children. Boomers created this mess and now they want their kids to pay (and keep paying). They should be red faced with embarassment. Pathetic.
While Gov. Jindhal doesn't have the charm of the President, he does have a credible record of accomplishment. Governing a state noted for its venality and corruption, he is a breath of fresh air. Commentators last night ignored the content of his speech: give Americans the power and tools and we will fix the economy.
Contrast Louisana with Obama's home state, Illinois, whose two recent governors are accused or were convicted of corruption.
Thank you, Gov. Jindal, for your response. It was a clear, measured statement of what all citizens should desire: limited government, equal protection under the laws and the freedom – and concomitant responsibility – to pursue life, liberty and happiness.
I am a Republican. If this is the best the GOP can do, the party is in a world of hurt.
This speech was nothing but a poorly written, poorly delivered, juvenile, self-promotional waste of national air time.
It time to send this guy back to the minor league.
To the comment by Gary (7:45am): This logic is the same pessimistic view that will (if nothing else is done) ruin our economy. Two main points that came from Obama's speech, (1) encourage banks to "lend" and (2) create "temporary jobs (infrastructure)". Tell me, how are these temporary workers going to pay off their loans after the infrastructure is built and they are once again out of a job? Obama's speech was impressive; however, it isn't practical once it has left the podium. As Americans we are NOT entitled to anything. We must first SAVE enough for our future, spend only what we EARN, and spend RESPONSIBLY. Failing to do so will put us in the same position in the near future. Anything else is rhetoric designed to engineer political power and non-sustainable, short-term results.
It's amazing how misinformed the responses are from the Democratic constituency. It is a well known fact that this crisis was started by democrats who wanted everyone to be able to purchase a home whether they could afford it or not (thank you Barney Frank, Bill Dodd and President Clinton). Granted financial oversight was non-existant under President Bush and that escalated and exasperated the situation. Be that as it may; Democrats want to continue giving money away and making people depend on government money and essentially buying votes by redistributing tax dollars paid mostly by Republicans. Perhaps it is time for a revolution to form a govenment where only those who pay taxes can vote.
I respect Jindal and his conservative view, but I have to admit he looked like an amateur compared to Obama's oratory skill – but it's a tough act to follow
My main problem with Jindal's speach is that he was "talking down" to the audience like we were children or idiots. I did not like it and it hurt his credibility, although I supposed it needed to be "dumbed down" for all the Obama loving idiots who do not understand the issues.
Bobby says give more tax breaks to people. Assume people get that money and spend them in Walmart. Most of the goods sold in Walmart are made in "China"? That's what is happening for the last decade. Americans are increasing buying goods made in foreign countries and not producing much. This is reflected in the trade deficits with China. The reason behind this is it is getting increasing difficult for American companies to be competitive in this global economy. Hence giving tax breaks don't work always.
Healthcare expense in this country is weighing down the profits of American corporations. This is driving American companies to outsource most of the jobs (software development, call centers, business processes, financial analysts, textile, furniture, automobile) to developing countries.
Next election… things will change, they always do. The democrats know this so they passed this spending bill. They needed to get all their friend's pockets padded before they're voted out.
With that logic, what do you think people are going to do with a stimulus check? At least this way those who contribute in the form of taxes are rewarded. Let's be realistic, regardless of the policy – we CANNOT spend our way out of this.
Bobby says give more tax breaks to people. Assume people get that money and spend them in Walmart. Most of the goods sold in Walmart are made in "China"? That's what is happening for the last decade. Americans are increasing buying goods made in foreign countries and not producing much. This is reflected in the trade deficits with China. The reason behind this is it is getting increasing difficult for American companies to be competitive in this global economy. Hence giving tax breaks don't work always.
Healthcare expense in this country is weighing down the profits of American corporations. This is driving American companies to outsource most of the jobs (software development, call centers, business processes, financial analysts, textile, furniture, automobile) to developing countries.
Comment by Harry – February 25, 2009 at 10:40 am
Hey if you're a real republican don't file for un-employment insurance. If you take the money then shut up. It's just creeping socialization. So, if you talk the talk; walk the walk.
right on bobby. democrats hate to hear stories about hard work, determination and self-reliance. they want to think that everyone needs help to succeed and they basically hate strong, resourceful folks who have no need for their handouts. they get so depressed when they can't take credit for another's success and basically feel threatened by an able man. how lame is that? how lame are they?
You are wrong. I'm a republican and I'm going to quit my job and sit at home all day getting drunk while collecting government benefits. I will get welfare, section 8 housing and food stamps, so I'll be set.
And YOU will foot the bill (assuming you have a job).
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
Why are the American people getting so weak-minded? The mindset in this country is changing to "The government will look after me." People are shedding personal responsibility and looking for a hand-out. I like Governor Jindal's story. I married into a family of immigrants who came to the US in the mid-80′s – and never took one red cent of "welfare." I have seen countless times where people come to this country from abroad, not able to speak English, and still make very productive lives for themselves. But our own American-born citizens (across all races) can't make it with all resources to make it…? Please realize that we have to fix this first, and not look to government to solve all our problems. Admit that this "stimulus" bill was NOT – just giving $ to special interests.
It was a great follow up speech after Obama's sunday morning "lecture"
BJ's response was pathetic, to put itmidly. He was un eloquent, unpersuasive, unispiring, unimpressive, and lacks peronality. I wanted to slap him, not vote for him. GOP is touting him as next "Reagan". They have got to be kidding me! I have seen Reagan. BJ is no Reagan. If BJ is best the Republicans have got, bye, bye, Republicans.
Wow! You liberals are morons! You have completely missed the point. No one is saying that volcano monitoring is bad, it just doesn't belong in a STIMULUS bill. Does that make sense to you? Do you get it? It should be in seperate legislation NOT a stimulus bill. Why is that so hard for you liberals to understand?
One more thing…you all hate the bank execs and auto execs for having private jets when they accept tax payer dollars right? But why aren't you just as mad about Pelosi having her own private jet? Who do you think is paying for it? If you can't figure it out I will give you a hint…YOU ARE! At least the banks and auto execs pay for some of their private jets with PROFITS. 100% of Pelosi's PRIVATE jet is paid by the tax payer. Why does that not upset you?? Morons!
Hush, kids. Be quiet now. Belligerent chatter is so annoying.
Bobby Jindal is the best thing to happen to Louisiana in a long time.
Let's see, with the economy dependent on consumer spending, how will it fair with people acting responsibly and saving much more of their money, rather than spending it?
I think a lot more companies would go bankrupt under that scenario.
Then what happens?
I think I liked it better when Bobby Jindal was listening to Mike Foster. Go TOP'S!
(Ever been to the post office?)
In and out under 10 minutes.
(Ever been to the DMV to get your license?)
Saturday Morning…20 minute wait, followed by another 10 minute wait
(Ever tried to get a passport in under 3 months?)
Applied at the Post Office before X-mas 2008, received late Jan 2009.
(Ever faced a zoning issue?)
The info is available at local municipalities. This takes time depending on the issue.
(Ever tried to get a building permit, even for your own house?)
Can't answer this one.
(Ever tried to ask the IRS a simple tax question?)
If You mean by going to http://www.irs.gov/contact/index.html and clicking on "Call Us With Your Tax Questions", then yes.
The liberals voted for a 'stimulus' (aka debt) package they hadn't even read. Obama and his admin are socialist jokes. The mess we are in started under Clinton; the housing fiasco was encouraged and forced to happen by Clinton and Frank. The Dems have controlled things for over 2 years, and in that time, things really took a nosedive. Those of you who love Obama and think he is a Savior will have a rude awakening one day…hopefully sooner than later. Let's make this the Socialist States of America! There is no mandate – if it hadn't been for liberal media lying and controlling the facts, the Republicans would have gotten much more than 49% of the vote. Obama is scary!
I can't wait for that Federal cash to poor into my volcano watchers club. I can hire more people to watch with me! then we can take that money and ride a train from Disneyland to Vegas where we can spend that money. WE NEED MORE VOLCANOS… unless I win at the tables.
After reviewing the comments here, it's obvious that we're screwed. If people believe that they won't be taxed 'another dime' if they make less than $250k/yr they're sheep following the herder into the slaughter house. Otherwise, thank God we've got so many wage earners making more than $250k/yr to pay for the trillions we're spending on this mess we all participated in. I, for one, am not going to hold my breath.
I thought the stimulus bill was all about creating jobs? Where the hell are they??? Impeach Obama!!!
There is $20 million to help fish swim in the package! Hello!! This is what we get when we vote for liberals who push a package, vote for a package and enforce a package they haven't even read!!! Sad and irresponsible citizens we are!!!!
I can't believe republicans have the shame to come up in prime time to talk about what could actually work, when they had 8 years to come up with these bright ideas and didn't… Its so much waste of time and energy for us, we need to focus in the positives, not in criticizing the efforts Obama is trying to do to save this country from complete caos…
In response to Bob…you are wrong about us liberals paying for Pelosi's private jet. We don't work or pay taxes…we live off of the government so it is not us paying for Pelosi's jet. It is the hard working, tax paying, personally responsible conservatives who are paying for her jet. Us liberals just sit on our a$$, wait for free handouts, and depend on others to provide for us…it is the liberal way! Not proud of it but it is who we are.
Hey, "truthful", your glorious liberal demcrats have been in charge of congress the past 2 years, what have they accomplished?
Tax cuts for all Americans worked to stimulate the economy and grow jobs under Bush. Fact: the lower and middle classes received a larger percentage tax cut than the wealthy under Bush. Fact: Under Bush's tenor, America grew faster than any other industrialized nation. Fact: Republicans weren't responsible for the recession and the ensuing economic crisis – last I checked, republicans don't control monetary policy (that's a fed thing). Fact: Clinton and dems supported and drove the agenda to deregulate banks in the '90s. Why can't people be objective and intelligent about what's going on? Saying that Republicans are responsible for the current mess is nothing more than an incorrect talking point by the Dems. Yes republicans overspent, and it's exactly what the Dems want to do now. Wake up!
Hey Ted, Bob was right…you liberals are morons. IMPEACH OBAMA!
Why not put some measures on the stimulus plan? The approach should be – for every project in the package – there should be some explanation on how exactly that item will help the economy to recover. If someone wants to monitor the volcanos – fine, but I'd like to see the projected impact on the economy from such monitoring…If there's NO IMPACT – it should not be on the list…IT'S THAT SIMPLE!!!!
Volcanos, hurricanes, tornadoes ARE apart of the economy. Wait till one hits YOUR area and see what it does to your economic state. THINK PEOPLE. Trying to prepare for them and the steps to take to monitor them is why its important. What kills the economy is when the president has to go to congress for a big fat check to send to those states who are affected. (ECONOMY) GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by COM'MON THINK PEOPLE – February 25, 2009 at 10:21 am
Why not put some measures on the stimulus plan? The approach should be – for every project in the package – there should be some explanation on how exactly that item will help the economy to recover. If someone wants to monitor the volcanos – fine, but I'd like to see the projected impact on the economy from such monitoring…If there's NO IMPACT – it should not be on the list…IT'S THAT SIMPLE!!!!
Comment by Realist – February 25, 2009 at 11:41 am
Which party empowered government?
"Beware of the man who blows hot and cold in one breath."
Saying you want to work with the other party and doing so are 2 different things.
I'm tired of hearing that Democrats had the majority the past 2 years and did nothing. Bush was still President under that majority and was unreceptive to Democratic bills.
It is absurd, especially, when it took 7 years of the Bush administration to get us to this plateau of economic devastation.
Lastly, what really is happening witht the GOP is that the party wants Obama and the Democrats to fail. That way the GOP has a shot at winning the 2012 election and again assuming power.
So, far from willing to work together, the GOP has a game-plan it needs to follow for self-preservation.
"I see you have questions about why daddy appointed a tax cheat to be the head of the IRS. Well, Tim didn't pay his taxes but he is really smart so we are going to look the other way. I want that to be a lesson to both of you…if you are smart and needed by either the government or some corporation it will be easier for you to break the law and get away with it".
"Now go study so you can grow up smart and not have to be responsible for your mistakes."
"What's that girls?" "Well, yes I did promise change & to clean up Washington but now I am elected so I can do what I want. No more questions girls…go to bed now, daddy has to figure out how to repeal more STATE laws so that more babies can be killed."
How much longer am I going to have to listen to the "it is all Bush's fault" BS from you Demos? Apparently you all are not quite bright enough to understand that the LEGISLATIVE branch makes to laws, not the EXECUTIVE. Bush did not get us in this mess – the legislators that we Americans elected did this to us. Esp. one Mr. Frank – who led the push to force Fannie and Freddie to "increase home ownership" by lending $$ to people who had no chance of paying it back.
To those who can do nothing but repeat the lies emitted by the liberal press – don't you ever tire of being such a victim of advertising? Every time you open your mouths, you demonstrate you are incapable of rational thought. Doesn't that ever embarass you?
How many states actually have active volcanoes, anyways???
I can only think of two: Washington state & Hawaii.
LOVE IT JESSICA! How true!!
Those of you who think the "economy was fine" until Democrats gained a majority in Congress are probably the same people who are now claiming that FDR caused the Great Depression (which started four years before he was inaugurated), and who are also pointing to the tax cuts of the early 1920s as a model for us to follow now. Everyone seems to have forgotten that those tax cuts helped created the bubble economy that collapsed in 1929, just as Republican policies helped create the bubble economy that is collapsing now. The financiers and hedge funds rode the bubble and got rich, but middle class income remained stagnant, and now they are the ones who are suffering.
And don't tell me Bush wasn't a Republican, when every Republican in Congress dutifully followed his every move.
As far as natural disasters, including volcanos go….lets look at the real issue here. Don't build your house NEAR one. Ever thought of that? If you are worried about flooding, don't live in New Orleans (under sea level). So if we monitor a valcano and say it will erupt, what will that really save? We told people in New Orleans and the gulf states that Katrina was coming, and those who did get out couldn't pack up their house and move it to safer ground. Understand it is not the governments responsibility to stop "natural disasters" from happening, or to repay you when you are the victim of nothing more than bad luck, and poor decision making on your part.
Well, with a speech like that the Republicans may start to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Mr. Jindall is at least a match to Obama in rhetorics but without the BS.
As to those of you who want the money for monitoring volcanoes, that's fine. They just don't belong in the stimulus package which was indended to be targeted (to job creation) and temporary and is neither.
How much longer am I going to have to listen to the "it is all Bush's fault" BS from you Demos? Apparently you all are not quite bright enough to understand that the LEGISLATIVE branch makes to laws, not the EXECUTIVE. Bush did not get us in this mess – the legislators that we Americans elected did this to us. Esp. one Mr. Frank – who led the push to force Fannie and Freddie to "increase home ownership" by lending $$ to people who had no chance of paying it back.
To those who can do nothing but repeat the lies emitted by the liberal press – don't you ever tire of being such a victim of advertising? Every time you open your mouths, you demonstrate you are incapable of rational thought. Doesn't that ever embarass you?
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Hey "THANKS" (Comment February 25, 2009 at 10:52 am):
American companies are NOT the CAUSE for jobs going overseas. It is ECONOMICS that is making that happen. People in other parts of the world are content to be paid far less than Americans are. There is no law you can enact, and no President you can elect who can do anything against the immense force of economics.
The standard of living in this country is declining, and will continue to decline. Our only choice is how we get there – either gradually, with a little pain every year, or in big jumps, like we've seen this last year or so.
I think the most pressing issue that the United States faces todays are volcanoes.
Why are volcanoes not getting more press? Why is the media ignoring these ticking timebombs ready to blow ash, poisinous gases, and red-hot liquid magma?
Why only $150 million to study these? Surley we can devote a few billoin of the $1 trillion just passed. What is more pressing than these disasters in waiting?
Call your congressman and tell him we need to focus on the most pressing issue of our time: volcanoes. A $150 million is a joke and will hardly cover the enormous costs of volcano watching. We will also need a few hundred million more for volcano education and volcano prevention. Rise up and unite before it is too late!
Well, with a speech like that the Republicans may start to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Mr. Jindall is at least a match to Obama in rhetorics but without the BS.
As to those of you who want the money for monitoring volcanoes, that's fine. They just don't belong in the stimulus package which was indended to be targeted (to job creation) and temporary and is neither.
Comment by Peter Gray – February 25, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Will the government bail me out if I build my house on quick sand? Maybe they could spend millions of dollars to watch the quick sand and let me know if my house starts to sink. Not sure how that will save my house but hey it's just tax payer dollars.
litigatormom, tax cuts don't create credit bubbles. Learn economics 101. Republican policies are responsbile for economic growth of the 80s, 90s and 00s.
HELP! I have lava coming into my house! Where is the government when you need them? If only the STIMULUS bill would have been passed earlier…if it had I wouldn't have lava running through my living room right now.
America has turned into Socialistic Bizarro land:
1. Your only being greedy if you want to keep what you've already earned, but it's quite acceptable to take from your neighbor.
2. You're rewarded more when you don't work than when you do.
3. Housing flipping morons were taken advantage of as they were intentionally and irresponsibly trying to gouge others.
4. People insist the tax code hurts the middle class, when the tax burden falls on the wealthy astronomically more so.
5. Yes my friends, the republic will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give it to those who are not.
Picking on the one comment he made about volcano monitering is unfair to the Governor. His point is that we are spending too much on frivolous things. Get a grip and stop attacking the straw man.
Actually, the volcano monitoring: There is good evidence that the volcano bubble under the Yellowstone park might erupt; there is good evidence that gasses spewing from the volcano in Hawaii might one day kill thousands etc. Why are you all so hostile?
Enough of the Blame game!!! I am sick and tired of watching two parties pointing to each other…Blaming will not get us out of the crisis…Why can't the politician just put aside who done what in the past…and work on the solutions instead??? I was hoping The President would set an example in this respect, but he resorts to more blame…HOW SAD
Listen up all you moderates and liberals that put this idiot in the white house. The mesiah has told us NOT TO LOOK BACK . . . stop talking about the past eight years. If you want a historical perspective, go back to the real start of all this . . . Carter's CRA cluster-fxxx. Clinton added gas to that fire, encouraged rates to come down, forced Freddie and Fannie to guarantee more and more loans. Oh, by the way, he also signed the bill allowing for the creation of these deriviative investment vehicles (that have since imploded) Janet Reno (what a stupid idiot) eliminated red-lining, again forcing loans be made to people with no ability to repay . . . this all started the home bubble that has since burst, and now the responsible have to bail-out the deadbeats.
The biggest threat to America today is NOT terrorism and it is not the economy. The biggest threat to the well-being of all Americans today is VOLCANOES! The thought of them makes me shudder! I would rather get on an airplane full of terrorists than on an airplane with just one volcano.
I would rather be unemployed for the next year than to have a volcano move in next door to me.
The foreclosure crisis pales in comparison to the volcano crisis. We need to start addressing the real issues! Issues like lava, smoke, sulfur, and ash. These are the issues Americans wake up everyday thinking about and having sleepless nights over.
Join us in the FIGHT AGAINST VOLCANOES!
From what I have seen there will be no country left in four years. They are dong their best to destroy the country as fast as they can. I really don't believe this is the change the young people of our country wanted.
I'm glad to see so many democrats posting here! I find it hard to believe since there's doesn't seem to be one democrat on the planet who has ever taken (and passed) an economics class; perhaps you'll learn something by reading the WSJ.
Barack is punishing dual income families who have paid significant dues and now just break into the 'rich' territory (by his def). If I quit my job, we save on taxes, my nanny loses her job, I cut out the cleaning service, yard service, private school (except I still pay taxes for a public school I don't use; we'll just squeeze our kids in to the already overcrowded classrooms), my dry cleaning bill would disappear, and I would be in the best shape of my life. Make no mistake – penalizing success has a ripple effect that will hurt the economy.
Mr. Anonymous – "Bush was not a republican, so stop saying the Republican's screwed everything up"
You couldnt be more wrong. The republicans did screw things up. Bush is a republican, however, he is not a conservative. The problem is many republicans did screw this up since they had the majority and they passed legislation that Bush endorsed which increased spending, passed campaign finance reform, turned a blind eye toward illegal immigration, etc.
A true conservative would not have let this happen. The truth is the replublicans had control, however, conservatives did not. Another point of proof is Mr. McCain, who is also not a conservative, managed to get the republican nomination.
Great speech Governer Jindal. "…champion limited government, fiscal discipline, and personal responsibility" – let's get to it!
The problem is that our youth don't know what they want. We have become a nation that worships celebrity and "free" (as in beer). Barry 'O was successfully cast as a celebrity which motivated the young and poor/under-educated to actually cast a vote. He won (some might say bought) their votes by appealing to the vague idealism of youth and the entitlement-mentality of the poor. (Re-distribution of wealth anyone?) And now we all get to pay for a very, very, very long time.
I liked the Jindal response and his delivery of the message. Of course, Obama is an excellent speaker. However the content of the speech is very frightning. This guy did nothing in the senate and now He has all the answers to our problems. This will not fly in the long run as voters experience the results of what He is proposing. Republicans once again have the opportunity to prove that they have the ability to oppose him. We shall see how they perform.
The Republicans are just sore losers.
Gov. Jindal said that Louisiana added jobs in January this morning. His state is losing 500 workers per week in February. New jobless claims are over 4000 per week. This means that 3500 people are either giving up looking for a job per week or they are finding work. My bet is the first one. His state's unemployment rate is 5.9%. If he wants to brag about 6% of his state not being able to find work, then let him brag. Louisiana is no better off than any other state. Maybe their unemployment isn't rising as fast as other states due to their economy still recovering and rebuilding from Hurricane Katrina. If you want to see real leadership, look at IA, ND, SD and NE. All have around 3.5 – 4.5% unemployment. I bet U6 Unemployment is 25+% in Louisiana. Break those numbers down!
What would the unemployment rate be today in LA if the victims of Hurricane Katrina stayed? 10%? 15%? 20%?
If Bush was not a Republican- what was he? an anarchist? a potted plant? domestic terrorist?
A new politcal party is in order here-
A headline in the National Inquirer says he's suicidal
Great Speech, Gov Jindal!
Let's keep America the Land of Opportunity. Mr. Obama et al – please stop trying to convert us into France. We are behind you trying to help the economy. We are not behind the pork (e.g. Disney to LV for Mr. Reid). This is "change" we can not believe in, sir.
Bush = NeoCon = Socially conservative + big, expanding govt
My advice to Gov. Jindal : Don't quit you day job.
Jindal, Palin and Joe the Plumber ; is this the cream of the crop in the Republican ranks ?
Gov. Jindal, just focus on the volcanoes! Get rid of them and you will be a shoe-in for '12!!!
$140M = 0.0016% of the stim. How many jobs will be created to build, install, maintain and monitor them? Having said that – this is just more noise, focus on the big picture.
I don't want to get into who is right and who is wrong in the current situation but observe the responses.
The responses to the Obama plan in support of the plan blame Bush for the current crisis.
The responses to Jindal bring up LA issues occurring before his time as governor (i.e. Katrina) and make personal attacks at him.
As a historian, the New Deal by FDR did not work. WW II is what ended the depression. Will creating a new depression even deeper turn the conflict in Iraq into a wider war?
Jindal's Response to Obama's Address Falls Flat Among Fellow Republicans
I think if the Repubs do not want the money, then divide it between the ones that need it. Maybe the Repubs can work for free and drop their great insurance and see how the rest of us live. Big Babies!Jendal sounded like Palin, (dumb).
Governor Jindal stood strong when offered $38 billion of this stimulus money that he opposed. He only accepted $37 billion of it.
That, my frends, is what we in Texas call hypocrisy
I think Chris Matthews must have been upset that Jindal did not give him a "tingle up his leg."
Not ready for prime time. "Bobby, americans can do anything" You are wasting yourself with the Republicans.
NYC observer – at 2:21 pm
"As a historian, the New Deal by FDR did not work. WW II is what ended the depression"
This is because in today's money, the cost to the U.S. would be over five trillion dollars (at 288 billion 1945 dollars) , this this more than five times more spending than the present stimulus package .
Good Lord, you people are all morons.
He's not agianst volcano monitering, he's agianst that being in a stimulus package which is made to stimulise the economy
To be nitpicking about a volcano monitoring system reminded me of my spouse .
I repainted the living room and did a super job on it . However my spouse first reaction was not about how beautiful the new paint job look like , but to made a remark that I dropped a nickle size spot of paint on the parquet floor .
To AndyA – 2:38pm:
And how much do you think we have spent so far?
Simulus: $800 Billion
Tarp: $700 Billion
Fannie/Freddie: $100 Billion
AIG: $120 Billion
GM/Ford: $50 Billion
Citi/BOA: $100 Billion
Homeowner Mortgage bailout: $275 Billion
That's $2.145 trillion so far and I know I'm leaving out others, that's just off the top of my head. There's also funds from Treasury and don't forget about all of the interest on funds that are made up from the printing pressess.
And Obama has already annouced a "Tarp 2″, and that GM/Ford/Chrystler can't fail, in addition to the banks not being able to fail.
So it's easy to see how we can get to $5 Billion and wreck our enconomy for decades because of poor spending.
The govt just needs to stop spending immidiately.
That's $5 Trillion, not billion
Class warfare will end soon, because we'll all be lower class after we pay all the new taxes Barry thinks of.
I read almost every comment posted here and noticed a recurrent theme throughout. Many are compelled to defend Obama's and the Democrat's harmful policies and practices – they can do so, only by blaming Bush or by unfairly attacking Bobby Jindal's speech delivery. Liberals please grow-up, shed your hate of things good, right and decent and judge Bobby's message on merit not ideology and agenda. And, for those of you who tried to use history to support your liberal viewpoint please get your facts straight. I have never seen so much misinformation in my life. However, I am optimistic that the good people of this country will evolve back to the ethics, morals and right thinking of our forefathers when they understand the real implications of the liberal Democrat's agenda.
The difference between Conservatives and Liberals, Republicans and Democrats, is found in the words they use.
Faith versus Hope.
Faith: confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
Hope: "to feel that something desired may happen"
I will take the faith of Bobby Jindal over the hope of Barak Obama every time.
Come on Glen(at6:30 pm) , let's give our "forefathers" some rest ; they were all well intented but they belong to the mindset of the eighteen century . Times have changed, the entire world has evolved. We should look toward our " grand children" and THEIR century ,rather than be nostalgic about the past.
A Mumbai version of Lindsey Graham.
Rarely have I heard such garbage. I listened and listened for the guy that the media had spoken of but he never showed up. I just wish the rest of the US had found that out a few months ago. Obama has to be one of the worst speakers in history. He makes Bush look like a genius. Can Obama only say three or four words at a time before he has to pause? Does he really have that small of a brain? It makes sense, that's why he was so bad when he doesn't have his teleprompter to read.
I just quit my job so I can get on the gravy train instead of paying for it. I'm now all for bigger government. Hail Obama! Now where is my money!
Bobby Jindal is a very intelligent man who has managed to win Governorship in probably the most racist state in the Union . . . as an immigrant from India. He is exceptionally accomplished and is a Rhodes Scholar from Oxford. I am best friends with one of his classmates from his days at Oxford, and have been told nothing but great things about his character. His message was small government, tax relief for small business, etc. works. Unfortunately, our former president has screwed the pooch for the past few years by reversing all previous Republican Reagan philosophy by increasing the size of government. Bobby is good, but he should not be seen as the face of the Republican party at this time. No Republican will be put in the White House for at least 8 years!
Look people….the rebpublican messed up this country for 8 years. Its time to let Nancy and the Democrats do their thing. I agree we should tax the wealthy because they wont live to spend the money anyway. The poorer get richer and the richer get poorer. I like the idea.
$140 million for volcano monitoring?
No problem: let's also cut all U.S. goverment funding for hurricane monitoring, earthquake "prediction", weather forcasting, farm subsidies and disaster relief of any kind. Let's get the government out of lives…. we can handle it….
TRIG PALIN IN 2056… The Republican party is so inbred at this point that little Jindal's, baby Bush's and Dole's will create a three headed VP candidate to run with him.
Cheney grandchildren, while the most intelligent of the declining brood, will be excluded from running because of their unpure adoptive bloodlines…
Hey robert,
This idea that "you won, now republicans get in line…". If you try to march us into a socialist state (and Pelosi and Obama are doing just that) then you are going to have a second Civil War on your hands….
Hey Charlie, if we do have a second Civil War, your side would loose again.
What many of the commenters fail to realize regarding the earmarks mentioned in Gov. Jindal's speech (e.g. Volcano Monitoring and light rail) is that, though these may have a section of the country in need of them, the $1 trillion dollar bill forced down our throats without our representative having the opportunity to read was supposed to stimulate the economy. Rather, what we got was an ordinary, traditional pork laden spending bill. TO all the critics of Gov. Jindal's speech, which reflect the thoughts of most of the motive power of our society, hit the snooze alarm, go back to sleep and when you wake you get what you deserve: serfdom to the state.
I can't understand all of the claims of great oration from Obama. He can't string together two thoughts without a teleprompter. Listen to his interviews! Watch his townhall meetings! The "hims and haws," "ummhs," ans stutters indicate an unfocused mind trying to remember the lies previously spoken. His gloom and doom message has driven the stock market down over 2,800 points. The "Stimulus" Package was never his! He got it handed to him by Pelosi and Reid with 9000 pork projects in it. He then wants us to believe him when he says there is NO PORK in it. No it really chitterlings!
Some "commenters" (!) on this blog need to go back to school and learn: English, civics, history, and political science. Ignorance may be bliss in your world, but in the real world ignorance perpetuates our problems. It's not enough to be an intellectual freeloader regurgitating the carping, vitriolic drivel you hear on talk radio or the Fox network – not in today's world. Either get enlightened and contribute to the problem solving energy that is finally taking hold of our country or stay in the sandbox playing with yesterday's toys.
im thinking i agree with jesus st jesus. lets do it,the Minnesotan guy thinks he should be agianst monitoring things like tornados and hurricans. i wonder if anyone will still think to not monitor storms after their house is taking off the ground my a tornado. maybe you should go live on the coast and just see if you wouldnt monitar for hurricans…
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Hi,I am using visio 2003. I am trying to map a computer file suystem and would like to use a folder icon and MS Word Xcel icons. I have tried various searches on google but had no luck.LewisC
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JavaTM 2 PlatformStandard Ed. 5.0
All Classes');
All Classes
Class URL
All Implemented Interfaces: Serializable
public final class URLextends Objectimplements Serializable
Class URL represents a Uniform Resource
Locator, a pointer to a "resource" on the World
Wide Web. A resource can be something as simple as a file or a
directory, or it can be a reference to a more complicated object,
such as a query to a database or to a search engine. More
information on the types of URLs and their formats can be found at:
In general, a URL can be broken into several parts. The previous
example of a URL indicates that the protocol to use is
http (HyperText Transfer Protocol) and that the
information resides on a host machine named
ncsa.uiuc.edu. The information on that host
machine is named /SDG/Software/Mosaic/Demo/url-primer.html. The exact
meaning of this name on the host machine is both protocol
dependent and host dependent. The information normally resides in
a file, but it could be generated on the fly. This component of
the URL is called the path component.
A URL can optionally specify a "port", which is the
port number to which the TCP connection is made on the remote host
machine. If the port is not specified, the default port for
the protocol is used instead. For example, the default port for
http is 80. An alternative port could be
specified as:
The syntax of URL is defined by RFC 2396: Uniform
Resource Identifiers (URI): Generic Syntax, amended by RFC 2732: Format for
Literal IPv6 Addresses in URLs. The Literal IPv6 address format
also supports scope_ids. The syntax and usage of scope_ids is described
A URL may have appended to it a "fragment", also known
as a "ref" or a "reference". The fragment is indicated by the sharp
sign character "#" followed by more characters. For example,
This fragment is not technically part of the URL. Rather, it
indicates that after the specified resource is retrieved, the
application is specifically interested in that part of the
document that has the tag chapter1 attached to it. The
meaning of a tag is resource specific.
An application can also specify a "relative URL",
which contains only enough information to reach the resource
relative to another URL. Relative URLs are frequently used within
HTML pages. For example, if the contents of the URL:
contained within it the relative URL:
it would be a shorthand for:
The relative URL need not specify all the components of a URL. If
the protocol, host name, or port number is missing, the value is
inherited from the fully specified URL. The file component must be
specified. The optional fragment is not inherited.
The URL class does not itself encode or decode any URL components
according to the escaping mechanism defined in RFC2396. It is the
responsibility of the caller to encode any fields, which need to be
escaped prior to calling URL, and also to decode any escaped fields,
that are returned from URL. Furthermore, because URL has no knowledge
of URL escaping, it does not recognise equivalence between the encoded
or decoded form of the same URL. For example, the two URLs:
foo.com/hello world/ and foo.com/hello%20world
would be considered not equal to each other.
Note, the URI class does perform escaping of its
component fields in certain circumstances. The recommended way
to manage the encoding and decoding of URLs is to use URI,
and to convert between these two classes using toURI() and
The URLEncoder and URLDecoder classes can also be
used, but only for HTML form encoding, which is not the same
as the encoding scheme defined in RFC2396.
See Also:Serialized Form
Constructor Summary
URL(String spec)
Creates a URL object from the String
URL(String protocol,
String host,
int port,
String file)
Creates a URL object from the specified
protocol, host, port
number, and file.
URL(String protocol,
String host,
int port,
String file,
URLStreamHandler handler)
Creates a URL object from the specified
protocol, host, port
number, file, and handler.
URL(String protocol,
String host,
String file)
Creates a URL from the specified protocol
name, host name, and file name.
URL(URL context,
String spec)
Creates a URL by parsing the given spec within a specified context.
URL(URL context,
String spec,
URLStreamHandler handler)
Creates a URL by parsing the given spec with the specified handler
within a specified context.
Method Summary
equals(Object obj)
Compares this URL for equality with another object.
Gets the authority part of this URL.
Gets the contents of this URL.
getContent(Class classes)
Gets the contents of this URL.
Gets the default port number of the protocol associated
with this URL.
Gets the file name of this URL.
Gets the host name of this URL, if applicable.
Gets the path part of this URL.
Gets the port number of this URL.
Gets the protocol name of this URL.
Gets the query part of this URL.
Gets the anchor (also known as the "reference") of this
Gets the userInfo part of this URL.
Creates an integer suitable for hash table indexing.
Returns a URLConnection object that represents a
connection to the remote object referred to by the URL.
openConnection(Proxy proxy)
Same as openConnection(), except that the connection will be
made through the specified proxy; Protocol handlers that do not
support proxing will ignore the proxy parameter and make a
normal connection.
Opens a connection to this URL and returns an
InputStream for reading from that connection.
sameFile(URL other)
Compares two URLs, excluding the fragment component.
protected void
set(String protocol,
String host,
int port,
String file,
String ref)
Sets the fields of the URL.
protected void
set(String protocol,
String host,
int port,
String authority,
String userInfo,
String path,
String query,
String ref)
Sets the specified 8 fields of the URL.
static void
setURLStreamHandlerFactory(URLStreamHandlerFactory fac)
Sets an application's URLStreamHandlerFactory.
Constructs a string representation of this URL.
Constructs a string representation of this URL.
Returns a URI equivalent to this URL.
Methods inherited from class java.lang.Object
clone, finalize, getClass, notify, notifyAll, wait, wait, wait
Constructor Detail
public URL(String protocol,
String host,
int port,
String file)
throws MalformedURLException
Creates a URL object from the specified
protocol, host, port
number, and file.
host can be expressed as a host name or a literal
IP address. If IPv6 literal address is used, it should be
enclosed in square brackets (' and ']'), as
specified by RFC 2732;
However, the literal IPv6 address format defined in RFC 2373: IP
Version 6 Addressing Architecture is also accepted.
Specifying a port number of -1
indicates that the URL should use the default port for the
If this is the first URL object being created with the specified
protocol, a stream protocol handler object, an instance of
class URLStreamHandler, is created for that protocol:
If the application has previously set up an instance of
URLStreamHandlerFactory as the stream handler factory,
then the createURLStreamHandler method of that instance
is called with the protocol string as an argument to create the
stream protocol handler.
If no URLStreamHandlerFactory has yet been set up,
or if the factory's createURLStreamHandler method
returns null, then the constructor finds the
value of the system property:
If the value of that system property is not null,
it is interpreted as a list of packages separated by a vertical
slash character '|'. The constructor tries to load
the class named:
where <package> is replaced by the name of the package
and <protocol> is replaced by the name of the protocol.
If this class does not exist, or if the class exists but it is not
a subclass of URLStreamHandler, then the next package
in the list is tried.
If the previous step fails to find a protocol handler, then the
constructor tries to load from a system default package.
<system default package>.<protocol>.Handler
If this class does not exist, or if the class exists but it is not a
subclass of URLStreamHandler, then a
MalformedURLException is thrown.
Protocol handlers for the following protocols are guaranteed
to exist on the search path :-
http, https, ftp, file, and jar
Protocol handlers for additional protocols may also be
No validation of the inputs is performed by this constructor.
Parameters:protocol – the name of the protocol to use.host – the name of the host.port – the port number on the host.file – the file on the host
MalformedURLException – if an unknown protocol is specified.See Also:System.getProperty(java.lang.String),
public URL(String protocol,
String host,
String file)
throws MalformedURLException
Creates a URL from the specified protocol
name, host name, and file name. The
default port for the specified protocol is used.
This method is equivalent to calling the four-argument
constructor with the arguments being protocol,
host, -1, and file.
No validation of the inputs is performed by this constructor.
Parameters:protocol – the name of the protocol to use.host – the name of the host.file – the file on the host.
MalformedURLException – if an unknown protocol is specified.See Also:URL(java.lang.String, java.lang.String,
int, java.lang.String)
public URL(String protocol,
String host,
int port,
String file,
URLStreamHandler handler)
throws MalformedURLException
Creates a URL object from the specified
protocol, host, port
number, file, and handler. Specifying
a port number of -1 indicates that
the URL should use the default port for the protocol. Specifying
a handler of null indicates that the URL
should use a default stream handler for the protocol, as outlined
java.net.URL#URL(java.lang.String, java.lang.String, int,
If the handler is not null and there is a security manager,
the security manager's checkPermission
method is called with a
NetPermission("specifyStreamHandler") permission.
This may result in a SecurityException.
No validation of the inputs is performed by this constructor.
Parameters:protocol – the name of the protocol to use.host – the name of the host.port – the port number on the host.file – the file on the hosthandler – the stream handler for the URL.
MalformedURLException – if an unknown protocol is specified.
SecurityException – if a security manager exists and its
checkPermission method doesn't allow
specifying a stream handler explicitly.See Also:System.getProperty(java.lang.String),
public URL(String spec)
throws MalformedURLException
Creates a URL object from the String
This constructor is equivalent to a call to the two-argument
constructor with a null first argument.
Parameters:spec – the String to parse as a URL.
MalformedURLException – If the string specifies an
unknown protocol.See Also:URL(java.net.URL, java.lang.String)
public URL(URL context,
String spec)
throws MalformedURLException
Creates a URL by parsing the given spec within a specified context.
The new URL is created from the given context URL and the spec
argument as described in
RFC2396 "Uniform Resource Identifiers : Generic * Syntax" :
The reference is parsed into the scheme, authority, path, query and
fragment parts. If the path component is empty and the scheme,
authority, and query components are undefined, then the new URL is a
reference to the current document. Otherwise, the fragment and query
parts present in the spec are used in the new URL.
If the scheme component is defined in the given spec and does not match
the scheme of the context, then the new URL is created as an absolute
URL based on the spec alone. Otherwise the scheme component is inherited
from the context URL.
If the authority component is present in the spec then the spec is
treated as absolute and the spec authority and path will replace the
context authority and path. If the authority component is absent in the
spec then the authority of the new URL will be inherited from the
If the spec's path component begins with a slash character
"/" then the
path is treated as absolute and the spec path replaces the context path.
Otherwise, the path is treated as a relative path and is appended to the
context path, as described in RFC2396. Also, in this case,
the path is canonicalized through the removal of directory
changes made by occurences of ".." and ".".
For a more detailed description of URL parsing, refer to RFC2396.
Parameters:context – the context in which to parse the specification.spec – the String to parse as a URL.
MalformedURLException – if no protocol is specified, or an
unknown protocol is found.See Also:URL(java.lang.String, java.lang.String,
int, java.lang.String),
java.lang.String, int, int)
public URL(URL context,
String spec,
URLStreamHandler handler)
throws MalformedURLException
Creates a URL by parsing the given spec with the specified handler
within a specified context. If the handler is null, the parsing
occurs as with the two argument constructor.
Parameters:context – the context in which to parse the specification.spec – the String to parse as a URL.handler – the stream handler for the URL.
MalformedURLException – if no protocol is specified, or an
unknown protocol is found.
SecurityException – if a security manager exists and its
checkPermission method doesn't allow
specifying a stream handler.See Also:URL(java.lang.String, java.lang.String,
int, java.lang.String),
java.lang.String, int, int)
Method Detail
protected void set(String protocol,
String host,
int port,
String file,
String ref)
Sets the fields of the URL. This is not a public method so that
only URLStreamHandlers can modify URL fields. URLs are
otherwise constant.
Parameters:protocol – the name of the protocol to usehost – the name of the hostport – the port number on the hostfile – the file on the hostref – the internal reference in the URL
protected void set(String protocol,
String host,
int port,
String authority,
String userInfo,
String path,
String query,
String ref)
Sets the specified 8 fields of the URL. This is not a public method so
that only URLStreamHandlers can modify URL fields. URLs are otherwise
Parameters:protocol – the name of the protocol to usehost – the name of the hostport – the port number on the hostauthority – the authority part for the urluserInfo – the username and passwordpath – the file on the hostref – the internal reference in the URLquery – the query part of this URLSince:
public String getQuery()
Gets the query part of this URL.
Returns:the query part of this URL,
or null if one does not existSince:
public String getPath()
Gets the path part of this URL.
Returns:the path part of this URL, or an
empty string if one does not existSince:
public String getUserInfo()
Gets the userInfo part of this URL.
Returns:the userInfo part of this URL, or
null if one does not exist
public String getAuthority()
Gets the authority part of this URL.
Returns:the authority part of this URLSince:
public int getPort()
Gets the port number of this URL.
Returns:the port number, or -1 if the port is not set
public int getDefaultPort()
Gets the default port number of the protocol associated
with this URL. If the URL scheme or the URLStreamHandler
for the URL do not define a default port number,
then -1 is returned.
Returns:the port number
public String getProtocol()
Gets the protocol name of this URL.
Returns:the protocol of this URL.
public String getHost()
Gets the host name of this URL, if applicable.
The format of the host conforms to RFC 2732, i.e. for a
literal IPv6 address, this method will return the IPv6 address
enclosed in square brackets (' and ']').
Returns:the host name of this URL.
public String getFile()
Gets the file name of this URL.
The returned file portion will be
the same as getPath(), plus the concatenation of
the value of getQuery(), if any. If there is
no query portion, this method and getPath() will
return identical results.
Returns:the file name of this URL,
or an empty string if one does not exist
public String getRef()
Gets the anchor (also known as the "reference") of this
Returns:the anchor (also known as the "reference") of this
URL, or null if one does not exist
public boolean equals(Object obj)
Compares this URL for equality with another object.
If the given object is not a URL then this method immediately returns
Two URL objects are equal if they have the same protocol, reference
equivalent hosts, have the same port number on the host, and the same
file and fragment of the file.
Two hosts are considered equivalent if both host names can be resolved
into the same IP addresses; else if either host name can't be
resolved, the host names must be equal without regard to case; or both
host names equal to null.
Since hosts comparison requires name resolution, this operation is a
blocking operation.
Note: The defined behavior for equals is known to
be inconsistent with virtual hosting in HTTP.
Overrides:equals in class Object
Parameters:obj – the URL to compare against.
Returns:true if the objects are the same;
false otherwise.See Also:Object.hashCode(),
public int hashCode()
Creates an integer suitable for hash table indexing.
The hash code is based upon all the URL components relevant for URL
comparison. As such, this operation is a blocking operation.
Overrides:hashCode in class Object
Returns:a hash code for this URL.See Also:Object.equals(java.lang.Object),
public boolean sameFile(URL other)
Compares two URLs, excluding the fragment component.
Returns true if this URL and the
other argument are equal without taking the
fragment component into consideration.
Parameters:other – the URL to compare against.
Returns:true if they reference the same remote object;
false otherwise.
public String toString()
Constructs a string representation of this URL. The
string is created by calling the toExternalForm
method of the stream protocol handler for this object.
Overrides:toString in class Object
Returns:a string representation of this object.See Also:URL(java.lang.String, java.lang.String, int,
public String toExternalForm()
Constructs a string representation of this URL. The
string is created by calling the toExternalForm
method of the stream protocol handler for this object.
Returns:a string representation of this object.See Also:URL(java.lang.String, java.lang.String,
int, java.lang.String),
public URI toURI()
throws URISyntaxException
Returns a URI equivalent to this URL.
This method functions in the same way as new URI (this.toString()).
Note, any URL instance that complies with RFC 2396 can be converted
to a URI. However, some URLs that are not strictly in compliance
can not be converted to a URI.
Returns:a URI instance equivalent to this URL.
URISyntaxException – if this URL is not formatted strictly according to
to RFC2396 and cannot be converted to a URI.Since:
public URLConnection openConnection()
throws IOException
Returns a URLConnection object that represents a
connection to the remote object referred to by the URL.
A new connection is opened every time by calling the
openConnection method of the protocol handler for
this URL.
If for the URL's protocol (such as HTTP or JAR), there
exists a public, specialized URLConnection subclass belonging
to one of the following packages or one of their subpackages:
java.lang, java.io, java.util, java.net, the connection
returned will be of that subclass. For example, for HTTP an
HttpURLConnection will be returned, and for JAR a
JarURLConnection will be returned.
Returns:a URLConnection to the URL.
IOException – if an I/O exception occurs.See Also:URL(java.lang.String, java.lang.String,
int, java.lang.String),
public URLConnection openConnection(Proxy proxy)
throws IOException
Same as openConnection(), except that the connection will be
made through the specified proxy; Protocol handlers that do not
support proxing will ignore the proxy parameter and make a
normal connection.
Calling this method preempts the system's default ProxySelector
Parameters:proxy – the Proxy through which this connection
will be made. If direct connection is desired,
Proxy.NO_PROXY should be specified.
Returns:a URLConnection to the URL.
IOException – if an I/O exception occurs.
SecurityException – if a security manager is present
and the caller doesn't have permission to connect
to the proxy.
IllegalArgumentException – will be thrown if proxy is null,
or proxy has the wrong type
UnsupportedOperationException – if the subclass that
implements the protocol handler doesn't support
this method.Since:
See Also:URL(java.lang.String, java.lang.String,
int, java.lang.String),
public final InputStream openStream()
throws IOException
Opens a connection to this URL and returns an
InputStream for reading from that connection. This
method is a shorthand for:
Returns:an input stream for reading from the URL connection.
IOException – if an I/O exception occurs.See Also:openConnection(),
public final Object getContent()
throws IOException
Gets the contents of this URL. This method is a shorthand for:
Returns:the contents of this URL.
IOException – if an I/O exception occurs.See Also:URLConnection.getContent()
public final Object getContent(Class classes)
throws IOException
Gets the contents of this URL. This method is a shorthand for:
Parameters:classes – an array of Java types
Returns:the content object of this URL that is the first match of
the types specified in the classes array.
null if none of the requested types are supported.
IOException – if an I/O exception occurs.Since:
See Also:URLConnection.getContent(Class)
public static void setURLStreamHandlerFactory(URLStreamHandlerFactory fac)
Sets an application's URLStreamHandlerFactory.
This method can be called at most once in a given Java Virtual
The URLStreamHandlerFactory instance is used to
construct a stream protocol handler from a protocol name.
If there is a security manager, this method first calls
the security manager's checkSetFactory method
to ensure the operation is allowed.
This could result in a SecurityException.
Parameters:fac – the desired factory.
Error – if the application has already set a factory.
SecurityException – if a security manager exists and its
checkSetFactory method doesn't allow
the operation.See Also:URL(java.lang.String, java.lang.String,
int, java.lang.String),
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