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I found the sitepoint forum during some google inquiries about "3D secure authentication" as I am wondering if 3DS will become mandatory in the near future. I am asking this from a merchants perspective. As far as I know some clearing providers in the UK (like ePDQ and ProtX) are forcing their customers to implement 3DS in course of the conversion from Switch/Solo Cards to Maestro.
Does anybody of you have more information about that issue available? That would really, really :) be appriciated.
Thx in advance,
There is no indication that this will be mandatory any time soon or ever at all. Now if a processing banks wants all of their merchants to use it they certainly can do that if they want to. But Visa and MasterCard are not going to make it mandatory.
MasterCard has made SecureCode mandatory for all Maestro/Switch/Solo cards. Processors and Acquirers must have certain percentages of their portfolio up and running by the end of the year. In 2008 you will not be able to authorize a Maestro/Switch/Solo card without SecureCode.
MasterCard has also mandated issuer participation. Issuers who do not implement SecureCode and begin enrolling cardholders are subject to fines. MasterCard is the only association that is issuing mandates at this point.
Thank you very much for your help and the information which is really usefull for me.
An interesting thread and some good information I've not been able to find elsewhere - particularly from my payment gateway provider Protx in the UK.
The way Protx have put this across to us over the past few months is that you must have 3-D Secure in place or else certain cards won't be accepted. Now that the deadlines have passed and we haven't implemented it all our sites are still happily taking all cards. To be fair to Protx, I'm not sure the banks/card issuers have been consistent with the information they have given them. I even heard from one source that Protx simply don't know what's happening with this.
The main reason we haven't set up 3-D Secure is we see a lot of development time to do it. You then think "well, we don't have to do it" and "cardholders aren't signed up anyway - so will we lose out through abandoned sales?" and there just seems little point. Obviously shift of liability is a factor but we don't suffer many chargebacks anyway. [Please note: I'm simplifying things massively in this paragraph]
I personally have Switch, Mastercard, Visa and Visa Debit cards with several banks for business and personal accounts. Not one of these banks has ever contacted me as a customer to try to get me to sign up to 3-D Secure. Perhaps this will change and they'll start trying to 'sell' it?
We are using a payment processor called Worldpay which is UK based, who acts your payment processor and acquiring bank so its very easy for any merchant to sign up with them. They are using royal bank of scotland. I've recently started using vbv and securecode a few months ago, recently the card user raised a dispute one of those "I didn't do it" types. It was a visa transaction, not mastercard. The transaction is question is a "cardholder not enrolled" status, which means we are fully covered by Visa merchant protection. But now its time for us to see whether this deal is too good to be true. I have a few questions
1) When I called up worldpay staff told me this transaction was marked as eligibility shift = Y. But yet they have frozen part of our cash reserves, in case this dispute ever materializes into a chargeback. Should I be worried? And will the fact that worldpay is uk based, our organisation in Asia and the card holder is from Brazil have any effect on eligibility shift? Will chargeback blocking still apply here? Worldpay seems to have its claws out ready to take the money back from us if the issuing bank wins the case.
2) The confusing thing worldpay said that eligibility shift is not 100% absolute (for user authenticated and cardholder not enrolled) and we still need to review each customer carefully before we accept his payment. They even said some fully authenticated fraudulent transaction have been chargebacked before. Or that issuing banks can simply change the reason codes to something else if the original fraud chargeback intended was blocked. Is there basis on what they have said and can we end up taking the losses? That's bad since vbv was meant to alleviate merchants from such problems. Issuing banks seem to throw the unpleasantries back to us merchants instead of honoring the agreements set out by Visa/Mastercard.
3) Assuming cardholder not enrolled protection was really a godsend, and we receive full protection. But do we still have the responsilibilty to help issuing banks screen out fraud orders? Worldpay sometimes marks each transaction as a "warning" status. Previously without vbv, we might get more info from the buyer to make sure he is for real. But now with vbv, the logic would simply to accept all transaction marked "cardholder not enrolled" since if there was any problem later, it would be the problem of the issuing bank, not us. What is our responsiblities as merchant in this aspect?
Hope you can really answer these important questions. I've been having a lot of sleepness nights worrying about the eventual outcome of the dispute. Will update this forum when I get the verdict.
smallvolume - I assume you use AVS [address checks] and CVV [credit card code checks] as well as IP checks? Those things can help you cut back on the fraud orders. Even if you are protected, too much of those and the merchant account may shut you down and add your name on the bad black list. :/
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Yes, we use AVS and CVV checks which helps to flag transactions as "warning" or "caution" status as I mentioned in point 3 above. Your point about needing to screen fraudulent customers or end up in visa's black list despite protection. My first impression was that since using vbv any transactions that come through marked as "user authenticated" or "cardholder/bank not enrolled" and we can accept them without debate. I now understand why we might need to fulfil our role as merchants to screen out fraud orders. Since if issuing banks are forced to take losses again and again because we simply accepted questionable payments, then this will raise a red flag about the quality of our company. I hope thats the case, since I would want to know we are NOT wasting our time and resources to screen transactions e.g. asking for customer billing statements, etc, when we didn't really have to because we are protected no matter what.
- Should you be worried?
It depends. WorldPay is not a customer of Cardinal so we have almost no visibility on whether or not they are properly passing CAVV and ECI data.
- And will the fact that worldpay is uk based, our organisation in Asia and the card holder is from Brazil have any effect on eligibility shift?
It shouldn't have any effect on the protection as long as the tranactions are qualifying accordingly.
- Will chargeback blocking still apply here?
No. Chargeback blocking is only available on US to US consumer transactions for Visa. You will still need to represent the transaction since you're an international merchant.
- Is there basis on what they have said and can we end up taking the losses?
No. If you are passing the data accordingly and transactions are qualifying for CPS Preferred and UCAF than the protection should be in place. Issuers changing reason codes is a myth. It's highly unprobable since the dispute resolution groups are monitored by Visa and MasterCard and they operate under strict procedures. If you can identify a specific example of when this occurred WorldPay should present the case to Visa/MC. There are strict fines associated with this which they will execute.
- Assuming cardholder not enrolled protection was really a godsend, and we receive full protection. But do we still have the responsibility to help issuing banks screen out fraud orders?
Absolutely. You need to run both AVS and CVV2 to qualify for the programs protection.
Contact Worldpay and absolutely make sure the transactions have qualified for the correct interchange status. When you receive the CB make check what reason code it was chargedback for. Then follow the represent procedure for VbV merchants specified by Visa. WorldPay can provide this to you.
Sorry, I'm not too sure exactly what the Verified by Visa and the Mastercard thingy are, can anyone explain?
additional information can also be found here:
and here:
You can also contact your acquirer for additional information. Please also note that SecureCode is mandated for ALL merchants who accept Maestro, Switch, or Solo cards. If you are not running SecureCode and you accept these card types you orders will not pass authorization.
Sorry I haven't updated this thread in some time but there has been some important updates with MasterCard SecureCode.
MasterCard SecureCode will now be offering protection on all cards regardless of enrollment outside of the US along with an interchange break.
I've attached a pdf to this post which outlines all the program updates.
Please remove if this violates the TOS.
I was wondering what the changes were made to the program and cannot seem to locate the pdf document.
here's a link you can follow to get more info
the pdf size is too large to upload
What will happen to a transaction that went through 3D secure processing and then was slightly different when actual processor authorization was processed? (amount change, shipping cost addition, split transaction, etc) Many merchants do not perform thier actual authorizations in real time but wait unitl stock levels are checked, shippint costs are verified, etc. Will the ECI and 3D secure validation hang on the transaction for fraud protection and interchange reductions? Thanks
I know this is an old thread but couldn't help but reply on why this would happen. It is most likely that the bank declines 3D secure transactions that are verified because all liability will go to the issuing bank for chargebacks, whereas if verification fails, chargeback liability will reside with the acquiring bank. While 3D secure claims to protect merchants from chargebacks (ie, guaranteed payment, cardholders can still claim that "goods or services not rendered" and a chargeback will still be processed thru". Hope this helps.


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TAVARES, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35 ORLANDO) -- Construction has already begun on the new waterfront pier and pavilion in Tavares.
When the City Council approved the taxpayer-funded project years ago, its price tag was $3.4 million with a completion date of 2013. Now, the city has come back with upgrades to the tune of $2.9 million additional dollars, nearly doubling the cost and moving expected completion to 2014.
The city plans to take a loan out for the extra $2.9 million. City Manager John Drury tells FOX 35, "We envision over a three to five year period it being completely self-sufficient, including the paying for some of that debt service." When asked if there would be a tax increase to pay for the project, Drury replied, "No! No!"
According to Drury, the project will be paid for by property taxes. Though the city would like to eventually see some funding from the Tourist Development Council, which would mean tourist tax dollars, or bed taxes, would help pay for the project. Those revenues would come from competing businesses in the county, like the Mission Inn Resort in Howie-in-the-Hills.
Mission Inn Resort V.P., G.M., and part owner Bud Beucher says, "I don't think the government should ever compete with its citizens. I don't think they should own golf courses, they shouldn't own marinas, they shouldn't own hotels, they shouldn't own car companies, they shouldn't own banks. The government should not compete against its own citizens. It's just not right."
But Drury says, "We look at it as an economic engine and a feeder to area hotels. We look forward to attracting new conferences and conventions to the area."
Lake County resident, and self-ordained fiscal watchdog, Vance Jochim says the pavilion could actually be a good gamble, but he asks, "Should they be getting into this sort of business, when other businesses have paid property taxes and facilities cost and now the city is competing with them?"
Tavares City Manager John Drury says they've already got some potential business lined up. He says both the Seaplane Pilots' Association and the Florida Airports Council have already submitted written requests for openings.
Other cities also have city-run conference centers, but price tags vary, and the same questions about the role of government still exist.
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EHRs Rush in Where Doctors Fear to Tread
This article appears in the March 2013 issue of HealthLeaders magazine.
Resistance to new technology may be futile, but it remains an issue for healthcare.
"Physicians do have to spend more time at computers now, which diminishes the amount of time we can spend at the bedside and interacting with patients and actually doing those things like surgical procedures and interventions that only we have the skill and the knowledge and the training to do," says Steven J. Stack, MD, chairman of the board of the American Medical Association.
Stack, who also heads the AMA's health information technology advisory group, says physicians flock to new technology when it helps them provide better diagnosis or treatment in a more timely fashion. "Just look at robotic surgery," Stack says.
But Stack faults the rush to deploy electronic health records for much of the continuing resistance to tech. "There are poor user interfaces with clumsy drop-down menus [and] a one-size-fits-all approach to the documentation process," he says. "As you would imagine, the documentation for an ophthalmologist focusing their entire professional life on a few centimeters of the human body contained in the eye is very different from a general internist taking care of the entire wellness of an entire human being."
As recently as 2007, the majority of all outpatient care in the United States was provided by physician group practices of fewer than three or four doctors, Stack notes. "There's no IT staff or CIO in the office," he says. "The CIO is either the physician themself or the practice manager. That's a real problem. And the cost to upgrade and maintain and troubleshoot is enormous."
While the industry scrambles to equip each provider with its own interoperable electronic healthcare system, what can be done to counter such fears and resistance? A wide range of providers says the answer lies in changing the culture of organizations, and even sometimes resorting to flashy incentives such as giving physicians iPads.
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RED Spy Ain't Right!
Well, I managed to get a Halloween fic done before Halloween ended! And google docs says it's at 1666 words, so I'm not going to try and make it any longer because that's exactly the right length.
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"The Spy's dead! Oh fuck, the Spy's dead!" The Scout clattered into the workshop, grabbed the Engineer by the overalls and shook him. "He can't be dead, we ain't meant to stay dead! Fix it!"
The Texan peeled the boy's hands off and set him at arms' length.
"You want to start again, there? What exactly are you rabbitin' on about?"
"The friggin Spy is friggin dead, hardhat, how are you not understandin' me? I'm speakin' English, here! Bone hands, skull face, dead! And that means you gotta fix it, 'cause I ain't goin' out if I'm gonna get killed f'real." The Scout spoke louder and a little slower than usual, as if explaining a simple new concept to a particularly stupid child.
"Well, there's nothin' wrong with our systems. I checked 'em just this morning. He's probably just trying to spook you with a mask, and you fell for it. Now go on, git out of my shop." Not waiting for further protests, the Engineer shooed the Scout out of the room and barred the door behind him.
Fuming, the Scout stomped through the corridors. He knew what he saw, so screw Engie if he didn't believe it. The Spy all shrivelled up and bony in that stupid balaclava, sprawled out on the chair. No way was it a trick, he'd have had to know the Scout would be happening to drop by at that exact moment, and the Scout was damn sure that couldn't be right.
He risked a peek through the barely ajar door into the Spy's room again. The corpse sat exactly where it had been when he stopped by in the first place, all dead and everything. Its revolver dangled uselessly from one gloved hand, a pale gleam of bone just visible between leather and linen. Its head lolled on its shoulder, the butt of a burnt-out cigarette still hanging loosely between its teeth.
Dead. Definitely dead. Super major totally dead.
He slipped back away, in search of someone he could forcibly persuade to at least try and fix the problem. The Doc, that was it. It was his job to keep everyone alive, he'd know what to do.
"Yo, Medic!" he burst into the infirmary. "Spy's dead, you bettah come an' check it out!"
The doctor cast him a cool look over the top of his little steel-rimmed glasses.
"Now, what have we said about telling lies, hm? Do you remember that time you claimed to have found a body in the culvert and we all came to see?" An unpleasantly toothy smile spread across the Medic's face. "And do you remember what happened after you'd had your little joke and laughed at us for trying to reach it? You didn't seem to like it very much, but I found it most educational." He allowed himself a little chuckle, one of those high giggles that too often accompanied overenthusiastic use of a bonesaw, and the Scout stepped back accordingly.
"Well… I ain't lyin' this time, he really is dead." The Scout pouted sullenly at both the skepticism and the memory of the educational parable. "All bones an' everythin'. I thought you were into that, like corpses an' shit."
"Scout, if I come with you and you are wasting my time again, you will be very sorry." How the hell did one guy have so many teeth? "Very sorry, indeed."
The Medic unfolded from his chair and marked his place in the Practica Chirurgiae, following the Scout at a relaxed pace that had the young man stopping and backtracking every few seconds. The Scout was very nearly hopping with frustrated energy by the time they reached the Spy's room. He slammed the door open, throwing one arm wide to present the corpse.
It was still on its chair, gun in one hand, cigarette in its teeth, polished bone showing yellow in the gaps of its balaclava.
The Medic sighed and polished his glasses on the edge of his coat.
"We really must have words about your habit of telling lies, you know. Come, leave the poor man alone to sleep." He attempted to guide the Scout out of the room, but the runner was having none of it.
"No! Come on, Doc, he's right there! Dead as a fuckin' doornail! Look! Friggin bones!" He grabbed the limp arm and the gun clattered to the floor. He could feel the twin bones of the forearm in the sleeve, and the already loose glove slipped a little further down the hand when he moved it.
"He hasn't been eating well lately, but there's no call for that." The Medic slapped the Scout's hand away from the dead arm. "If it weren't for the sleeping pills I prescribed he'd be awake and furious with you. Now, out." He firmly steered the Scout out of the room and closed the door. "If I didn't know better, I'd say you wanted to volunteer for more experiments. Hm?"
The Scout fled as bubbling, cackling giggles followed him down the halls.
Someone had to believe him. Someone. He wasn't making it up, he wasn't just seeing things, the Spy couldn't just be tricking him. He'd felt the bones through the thin shirt sleeve. The Spy was really really a corpse and no one would admit it!
There was one other option. No point trying the really deranged ones, the Soldier or the Pyro, and the Heavy couldn't speak English well enough to understand probably, and the Sniper wouldn't care. It had to be the Demoman.
He'd believe. He'd understand. He said he'd dealt with all kinds of weird stuff and monsters and supernatural stuff, he'd know why no one else could see that the Spy was dead.
The Scout knocked hesitantly, then pushed open the door to the closet-cum-studio the Scot inhabited by way of a workshop.
"Demo? You in here?"
A rolling snore alerted him to the man curled improbably into a tight space under a cupboard, clutching a bottle of whiskey in one hand and a half-open box of fluffy white cotton in the other.
"Hey! Demo!"
The snoring paused for a hopeful moment, then resumed with a deeper timbre.
"Oi! Demo!" The Scout prodded the wadded up bundle of Scot with one foot. "Jeez, you freakin' rummies can sleep through anythin'. Demo! Wake up!" He prodded more viciously, knocking the box of fluff loose. The Demoman was immediately awake and scrambling after it, securing it carefully and setting it reverently down on a suitably flat surface before turning to glare at the intruder.
"D'ye have any idea what ye nearly did? Thass' raw pyrocellulose!" The Scout's blank look displayed his absolute ignorance. "Get it too dry, treat it too rough and ka-boom! No more base!"
"Oh. Right, well, uh, that ain't important anyway," he waved off the Demoman's paranoid splutterings and spoke over his safety warnings. "Listen, the Spy's dead and no one believes me. Like, actual friggin skeleton an' the Doc says he's just not eatin' much. I figure this is your territory, all ghosts and stuff. How come no one else can see he's dead?"
"Slow down, ye chatty wee beggar. What d'ye mean, no one else can see 'e's dead?"
"I mean he's a freakin' skeleton in a suit, like an actual literal friggin skeleton and the freaking Doc just said he ain't eatin' well and he's had some sleepin' pills. It ain't right!"
The Demoman sighed and waved the Scout to a seat on a precarious but non-flammable pile of empty boxes.
"Go through this from the start. Where's the dead man? Why's he dead? How'd ye find 'im? Who else has seen 'him?"
Scout poured his story out, though it took a little prodding to get him to admit he'd come to the Spy because the Spy always had those French postcards with the ladies on, and how he'd thought it was a joke at first but the Spy hadn't even been breathing so it couldn't just be a mask so he'd gone to Engie because the respawn should have picked him up but hardhat said it was fine and then the doc had just ignored the skeleton that was like right freakin there and -
The Demoman shushed him to a halt.
"Well, laddie, it sounds like a fine mess. Did ye notice if the eyes were glowin'? Always a good, reliable indicator o' the unnatural, glowing eyes."
"What? No! I ain't givin' no deep looks to a skull! Eye contact's for the ladies!"
"Ye'll have tae stare the dead man in the face if ye wanna know 'is secrets," the Demoman warned. "An' dread secrets they may be! You better watch yerself, wee lad, if ye want to face down the dead."
"Hey, screw you. I ain't staring into some creepy freakin' eye sockets just 'cause you got weird ideas." Something almost akin to an idea managed to breach the Scout's mental walls. "Hows about you come with, an' you can do it? You only got one eye anyway, so you'd only get, like, half the damage if it's haunted or whatever."
"Ohhh, no, I'm quite busy here, thank ye very much. Ye can go and stare down the dead on yer own."
"No. Out."
Once more the Scout found himself alone in the corridor with nobody on his side. He stalked back to the Spy's room, determined to find out what was happening even if it did mean staring at a freaky skull.
The dead Spy was exactly where he'd been left, still completely unmoving. The Scout stared at it for several long minutes, before the twitchiness of such inactivity compelled him to pace the room instead. Finally, he had his solution.
Glaring at the masked skull, his eyes raked its hollow sockets for any sign of a glow or evil spark. Nothing. He grabbed the thing's balaclava to yank it off, and found his wrist gripped in a bony hand. The eyes glowed, after all.
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Hello Bucs fans, Jaxon here with Cat Scratch Reader to answer any questions you may have. Please feel free to list them below and I will get back in due time to answer them. Others from my site might also chip in as well. I imagine a similar post will go up on my site (I hope) for my members to ask questions about your 1-0 team!
I imagine the first question will be "Is Matt Moore going to start?"
I was back at practice today so I'm expecting him to play and 'Yes' I am glad about that. I'm not ready for the Jimmy Clausen era just yet.
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Hundreds of people filled the pews of the Rising Star Baptist Church, Saturday, in Birmingham to say a final goodbye to one of the original Negro League baseball players.
Otha Bailey's career with the league began in 1949. He played as a catcher for many teams.
Bailey joined the Birmingham Black Barons in 1952, where his teammates gave him the nickname "Little Catch." Bailey played his last game in 1959 and spent the rest of his life in Birmingham with his wife and children.
He died, Tuesday, at UAB Hospital.
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Keeper switch could be imminent
A week ago at B.C. Place, Brad Knighton drew attention to himself when he marched off at the final whistle, mad at a late Chicago goal that spoiled a shutout in a 3-1 win.
Saturday at the StubHub Center in Carson, Calif., after a lame 2-1 loss to the L.A. Galaxy, it was a disappointed Whitecaps team from top to bottom.
It's Knighton, though, who could pay the biggest price.
The Whitecaps signed veteran Danish goalkeeper David Ousted on June 20. He's been eligible to play since the international transfer window opened on July 9, and Knighton has been playing under a microscope for a month.
Mostly, he's thrived; probably, if the Caps were honest, beyond their expectations, otherwise why sign Ousted in the first place?
For the Caps, and for Knighton, who took the starting job away from Joe Cannon in mid-May, Saturday was their first loss in seven games.
Knighton, a 28-year-old from Hickory, N.C., is 6-2-2 with two shutouts this season in MLS, and 8-2-4 including Canadian championship games.
But if coach Martin Rennie has been waiting for an appropriate opportunity to begin the Ousted era, he now has it.
"I have to control the things that I can control, and that's putting in good performances," said Knighton, who then made his case to retain the No. 1 tag.
"This is our second loss in 10 games, and I've lost twice in all competitions this year, and that speaks for itself. That's not a coincidence.
"It's my job to get this team in the win column and we gave up two goals (Saturday), which unfortunately didn't get us the win. It hurts. It's the first time we've felt defeat in a while. We got the goal early and I don't think we played as well as we wanted to.
"We've got to get back to work Monday and prepare for Philadelphia."
Exactly who gets to go to work in goal against the Union will attract plenty of attention this week. It's inevitable — Vancouver loves its goalie controversies.
When Ousted arrived from Randers FC, where he finished third in the Danish Superliga and lost in a Danish Cup final, Rennie praised his size, presence, shot-stopping and agility.
"A lot of the games we watched, he was the one player who kept his team in the game," Rennie said then.
In the interest of harmony and chemistry, and for the simple fact that Knighton has been in excellent form, no one's been pumping Ousted's tires in the media the last few weeks.
But it wasn't hard to read expressions at training last week as Ousted put on a clinic in an end-of-practice drill — big and aggressive and quick as a cat.
After a night of sub-par performances across the board in L.A., Rennie wasn't in the mood to discuss any one position. Instead of talking goalkeeping, he diverted the discussion to his speedy rookie substitute Kekuta Manneh.
"I don't know," Rennie said when asked about the goalkeepers. "That's something we have to process more for every player in every position on the team.
"We have to look at who's available next week and whether the team should remain the same or whether we should adjust a little bit.
"Again, I thought Kekuta was lively when he came in, he was dangerous. So he's definitely knocking on the door of getting a start in the first team again. We'll evaluate all the positions before next game."
Cooling-off periodHours after Saturday's 2-1 loss at the L.A. Galaxy, Whitecaps players had cooled off and accepted a bizarre tying goal for L.A. that was first called offside, then allowed after a conversation between the linesman and referee Chris Penso.
Some Caps players had seen the replay, which showed it was, ultimately, the right call. Others had just heard. But their issue over the delivery of that decision remained.
"We all make mistakes, even the officials," said Caps' forward Kenny Miller. "You put your hand up sometimes. But whether the decision's right or wrong, the explanation we got right after the goal was nonsense.
"Without being too critical of the officials, we got two different explanations of why the goal was given. One in the heat of the moment and then another in the second half, once they'd got a chance to see it at halftime."
Miller, it should be noted, said right after the game that L.A. was "far and away the better team," and that the Caps got what they deserved on the night.
Fearing a fine, the Scot didn't want to expand on the two explanations he said the Caps were given. Knighton, who was one of several Caps players to crowd the officials after the decision, said the linesman apologized immediately.
"He said he shouldn't have put his flag up," Knighton said. "But we can't let the referees influence the game."
Joining the prosA handful of players from the Whitecaps' U18 residency team will begin training with the first team now that the U18 playoffs are over.
After a short break, fullback Sam Adegukbe of Calgary, midfielder Marco Bustos of Winnipeg, centre back Jackson Farmer of Edmonton, midfielder Kianz Froese of Brunkilo, Man., and winger Yassin Essa of Surrey are expected to join the professionals at various times.
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Gareth Bale is living, breathing evidence of a player's capacity to improve and transform his career.
The Tottenham Hotspur full-back turned winger initially struggled at White Hart Lane after joining the club from Southampton as a 17-year-old.
For a time he was actually a curse on the side as they failed to win in the Premier League whenever he took to the field. But he has now emerged as one of the best wingers in world soccer, a player who frightens full-backs with his pace and precision delivery into the box.
Quick Facts:
- Name: Gareth Frank Bale
- Nationality: Welsh
- Date and Place of Birth: July 16 1989 in Cardiff, Wales
- Position: Full-back/Winger
- Current Club: Tottenham Hotspur (Premier League)
- Previous Club: Southampton (2006-2007)
- International Career: 2006 to present
Southampton Youth Product:
Bale came through the Southampton ranks at the same time as Theo Walcott and made his professional debut for the club against Millwall in the Championship towards the end of the 2005-06 campaign.
He only played one full season at St. Mary's, but helped the club into the play-offs where they were knocked out by Derby County.
Bale's first goal for the club came against the same opponents in August 2006, and he would go on to score four more for the Saints before Tottenham secured his services for an initial fee of £5million, rising to £10 million dependent on the player's progress at White Hart Lane.
Slow Start at Spurs:
Bale scored in just his second appearance for Spurs against Fulham on September 1, 2007. Although he also netted in a north London derby defeat to Arsenal that season, injury and competition for places restricted him to just eight appearances in the Premier League.
After many disappointing displays, predominantly as a full-back, Bale really found his feet in the second half of the 2009/10 season under Harry Redknapp. But only after he had managed to end an extraordinary winless record. Bale had previously been involved in 25 matches and 1,533 minutes of league action without being part of a winning side, but that hoodoo was banished on September 26, 2009 when he came off the bench in a 5-0 win over Burnley.
Transformation Under Redknapp:
Bale began alternating between a left-back and left-wing position. Within weeks of that Burnley match he was wowing crowds up and down the country with some devastating wing play as he helped the club qualify for the Champions League for the first time.
Goals against London rivals Arsenal and Chelsea won him a place in many a Spurs fan's heart, and it was clear that, although a fine full-back, his best work was done as a winger in the opposition half.
The 'Taxi for Maicon' chant came as a result of his devastating performances against the Brazil defender in Tottenham's Champions League group stage encounters with Inter Milan in the 2010/11 season. He took his performances to another level that season and won the PFA (Professional Footballers' Association) Players' Player of the Year award.
International Career:
After being capped by his country at Under-21 level, Bale went on to become the youngest ever player to appear for Wales when he came off the bench against Trinidad and Tobago in June, 2006.
His first start for the national team came against Brazil, ironically at White Hart Lane, and although he did not find the net in that match, it was not long before he became his country's youngest ever scorer when registering against Slovakia in a European Championship qualifier.
The task for the likes of Bale and Aaron Ramsey now is to help Wales out of qualifying and into a major tournament.


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The Lubbock City Council has agreed to sell some water from Lake Alan Henry to a South Plains town.
The contract allows Lubbock to sell about 97.5 million gallons annually to people in Justiceburg and landowners immediately surrounding the lake. Under the contract, Lubbock would receive an estimated $180,000 dollars annually.
The Lake Alan Henry Water District must still approve the contract.


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A former corrections officer has been charged with kidnapping and killing his lover in central Florida woman. Leon Foster, 42, appeared before a judge on Monday. On Sunday, he broke into Mykeba Clark's second-floor unit at the Bay Towers Apartments on Washington Avenue, according to Titusville police investigators.
Detectives said Foster drove to the complex from his home in Indian River County."He came up to check on his girlfriend," said Sgt. Tom House, Titusville Police. "And when he arrived, he didn't like what he saw, so he supposedly went to a Walmart where he bought an Airsoft gun, a knife, and we believe that he possibly bought a hammer."Police said Foster brought a ladder off his work vehicle and used it to climb up to apartment. Investigators said he smashed the window and kidnapped Clark.Minutes later, witnesses said they heard the two arguing outside the building. Police said another neighbor called for help. "They shot him with a stun gun to get him under control," said Thomas Schrandt, a neighbor. Investigators said Foster stabbed Clark several times. "Unbeknownst to the officer, this suspect was stabbing the victim in the chest," said Sgt. House. "The suspect was tasered by our police officer."Foster was arrested. He faces homicide, kidnapping, and armed burglary charges.Clark was airlifted to the hospital in South Brevard where she later died. Police said Foster is former corrections officer. He worked for Indian River County.
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Report: Matt Lauer a public target
'Today' co-host said to be 'miserable' over Ann Curry fan tirades
According to TMZ, "Today" show co-host Matt Lauer is "freaked out" and "miserable" over tirades screamed at him by New Yorkers on a daily basis.
Bing: More about Matt Lauer | 'Today'
One of the most popular: "You got Ann fired. Does that make you happy?"
Lauer went from good guy to bad overnight in June, after TMZ reported he had maneuvered to oust Ann Curry as his co-host as part of his last contract negotiation. (NBC execs have publicly denied any connection between Lauer and what they term Curry's "reassignment" to reporter for "NBC Nightly News With Brian Williams" and other NBC news programs. Curry was replaced by Savannah Guthrie on the "Today" show.)
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The TMZ report quotes unnamed NBC sources saying the public harassment is "driving (Lauer) crazy, he's so unhappy." The report adds: "Matt is telling people at NBC there have also been lots of sarcastic comments about his $25 million salary."
Do you think Matt is being unfairly abused, or is this karma?
"Today" airs weekdays at 7 a.m. ET/PT on NBC.
My second attempt to post this... I think Matt Lauer is the one who stands out as the serious journalist and feel his interviews are very well done. The public needs to stop blaming Matt. She is back in her realm now as a serious traveling journalist. On the 'Today' show she worked so hard to get the first/last comments in, frequently interrupting everyone.
Matt is great at what he does and it is time for him to be recognized.


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After analyzing the requests from existing and prospective partners, we are humbly proud to release Hosting Provider v5.2. Currently, this edition is out as an Evaluation build. At this moment, we thank you for keeping your fingers crossed! This evaluation includes Clustering, Seeding of Clients data, Repository Management for data storage, Linux BMR and with further more back end enhancements.
A Sneak into the features list!
Repository Management:
We have just re-designed the Storage Management for Data Storage to Repository Management. As a part of adding further security to your Client's data, we have modeled this Repository Management. Repository Management is an advanced Volume Management; where you have ability to lock your Client(s) to particular Repository and group multiple volumes to a Repository. Volumes can be either a part of NAS/SAN/RAID. You'd love this once you check out this feature on our hot list!
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Here, your entire backup server data is completely replicated to your replication server at your own will. Implicitly, this Replication can be done at each Repository Level. So, you have full freedom of replicating data from particular Repositories and also the perk of having Repository Management as well for your clients.
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As a Backup Service Solution vendor, we would never forget to understand the requirements of Hosting Market which requires high performance and scalability. Cluster mechanism for your Backup Server. And that too in particular, we extend this feature to you with a robust Round Robin Algorithm – of having a common storage with multiple nodes. Even if you any one of the configured Node dismay, your clients will have zero downtime. Once you have created the Round Robin cluster setup, you can monitor the health status through the User Interface on any one of your Nodes!
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Budels Kolos - Budelse Brouwerij B.V.
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3.7/5 rDev -2.1%
Top fermented ruby dark ale. 33 cl. bottle.
Great lacing from a very thin head: this beer is very active.
Smell and taste are very malty. Some floral and grassy hops. Koriander is defenately in there too.
Mouthfeel is pretty light, almost watery, for a 7.5%. Aftertaste is mild, the alcohol is almost sweet.
12-29-2010 15:30:10 | More by RuudJH
3.73/5 rDev -1.3%
Bottle of 300 ml, at home. Poured into a tulip glass. ABV is 7,5%. Ingredients are water, barley malt, wheat malt, sugar, hops and coriander.
Pours a deep orange colour, with two fingers of off-white head. Average retention , it does leave some light lace as it goes down.
Aroma is mostly fruits, with prunes coming to mind, some alcohol and some vanilla notes.
Taste is sweet with some bitterness at the end coming from the alcohol mostly. Brings to mind a good port wine.
Medium to full on the body, average carbonation.
Nice beer, it offers a nice warming feeling along with the great taste.
11-28-2012 17:59:58 | More by Douberd
3.68/5 rDev -2.6%
I got this bottle from my cousin Peter yesterday, put it in the fridge and here i go!
Budels is a smaaler Dutch brewery in the south of Holland, not far from Eindhoven.
With this Kolos bier they have made a heavier beer than normal.
Tea-like fluid with a very nice three finger head and a bit carbonation.
Nice lacing in the glass.
To be honest i am not smelling much in this beer. The taste however is much better. Soft water is used for this brew. Malts in the background. There should be some korinader in it but i can not detect it.
Good brew, when you are in Holland and you see this you can drink it
10-30-2011 15:20:37 | More by Brabander
4/5 rDev +5.8%
11-28-2011 21:41:29 | More by rekel
Budels Kolos from Budelse Brouwerij B.V.
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China sweep all 4 golds in Olympic table tennis
LONDON, England (AP) — China again swept all four Olympic gold medals in table tennis, just like they did four years ago at home in Beijing.
In fact, men's coach Liu Guoliang said China have the "home court advantage" no matter where they play.
"In table tennis, wherever it is, we are the hosts," said Liu after China delivered one of their most pressure-packed gold medal performances of the London Olympics, completing the sweep with a 3-0 victory yesterday over South Korea in the men's team final.
"Being the hosts in Beijing four years ago, we had some advantages, the good atmosphere," he added. "You walked into the arena and all the Chinese were supporting us."
It was that way in the British capital throughout the
12-day table tennis tournament, and particularly yesterday. The 6,000-seat area quilted with hundreds of red and yellow Chinese flags, and thundering chants of "Jai Yo, Jai Yo" (Let's Go) drummed out the ping, pong, ping, pong.
The sweep was expected, and anything less could have prompted shake-ups in the government bureaucracy that oversees the sport. Table tennis is the national pastime and source of patriotic pride.
China have won 24 of 28 gold medals since the sport entered the Olympics in 1988. The Asians won two gold and two silvers in singles at the London Games. They could have won more, but nations this time were limited to two singles players instead of three.
China also took the women's team gold on Tuesday.
China are too good, backed by a state-run sports system that keeps cranking out the world's best players.
South Korean coach Yoo Nam-kyu, a singles gold-medallist in 1988, suggested some players are beaten just knowing the opponent is Chinese.
"Players might be confident the first time they play China, but when they lose once, twice or 10 times it's only natural they are already beaten," he said. "Even if they are not psychologically vulnerable, they are always questioning if they have the same amount of training to complete with their Chinese counterparts."
China's Ma Long defeated Ryu Seung-min, the 2004 Olympic singles champion, in the first set of the best-of-five series, which combines singles and doubles. That set the stage for China's sweep with gold medallist Zhang Jike beating Joo Sae-hyuk, followed by the doubles victory to make it 3-0.
Zhang, who struggled to beat Joo, stood in front of the umpire after the match and raised his right fist, a gesture the umpire makes awarding points.
"Because I won that last point, I just wanted to play the role of the umpire to give myself a point," said Jike, who said from the start he was confident of winning both golds.
Many believe the "real" men's final came in the semi-finals when China defeated a stubborn Germany led by Timo Boll, the top-ranked non-China player in the game.
Germany defeated Hong Kong — a team composed of three players born in mainland China — 3-1 to take bronze yesterday.
The gold-medal match prompted traffic on Sina Weibo, China's version of Twitter. Predictably, there was overwhelming support for China's team, but also comments questioning the cost of winning gold in so many sports. Some called it an "obsession".
Adham Sharara, the president of the International Table Tennis Federation, has encouraged China to share its expertise, afraid the world will grow bored of dominance by one country. He said they have been co-operating.
"It will change in the next four or five years," Sharara said in an interview with The Associated Press. "You will see other teams will win. Otherwise, of course, it's very disturbing to have the same — whether it's China or the US — winning for too long."


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After months of considering whether to support the creation of a Badlands Wilderness about 20 miles east of Bend, Ore., the Deschutes County Board of Commissioners voted 3-0 in late March to do nothing, effectively leaving the proposal in limbo.
It could have been worse, says commission chair Tom
DeWolf. "They can take solace in the fact we didn't vote to oppose
the wilderness." DeWolf supports protecting the 37,000 acres of
gnarled volcanic landscape as federal wilderness. But he says he
reluctantly joined in the board's "no position" vote, since he and
his colleagues didn't agree, and two votes were needed for action
on the proposal.
Local citizens like the idea: a poll
commissioned by the Oregon Natural Desert Association in February
found that 69 percent of Deschutes County voters support wilderness
designation. Hundreds testified at a hearing in late January, and
most backed wilderness; three-quarters of the 1,572 cards and
letters submitted to the commission were in support. Even the local
mountain-biking organization supports the proposal, although bikes
aren't allowed in wilderness areas (HCN, 6/7/04: Mountain bikers go
wild). The wilderness opponents are led by off-road vehicle users.
Oregon's congressional delegation is reluctant to
introduce a wilderness bill without the backing of local
politicians. A spokesman for Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., says his boss
won't do so without local political support. Second District Rep.
Greg Walden, R, says the commission vote "tells me there's a lack
of consensus either for or against this legislation."
the meantime, the Badlands has temporary protection as a wilderness
study area. The BLM management plan that was implemented this
spring closed Route 8, a dirt road running through the heart of the
Badlands, to all vehicles. Bill Marlett, executive director of the
Oregon Natural Desert Association, says he's heartened by the way
the area is now managed. Still, he's disappointed by the county
commissioners' lack of action: "We pitched them a softball," he
says, "and they whiffed."
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With LeBron's Twitter saga continuing and the Atlanta fans booing him last night, we are still getting bombarded by all things LeBron. The amount of news we hear about Kobe, Durant and other great, exciting players pales in comparison to what we hear about a guy that is really starting to annoy me.
ESPN The Magazine came in the mail yesterday, and their article from an unknown pro athlete was praising LeBron for his off-season antics, saying it was a blow to the owners. That seems to be a very shortsighted view, and one that I hope becomes problematic for the players. With Stern recently coming out and saying that salaries should be lowered, it seems that there is going to be an imminent power struggle. Stern has been very, very good for the league - owners and players, and I trust that his thoughts are in the best interest of the league going forward.
LeBron's circus act this off-season was hideous. He is arguably the best player in the league, and he hasn't had a good surrounding cast. That said, people have rightfully questioned his toughness, and they have also questioned if he has the heart necessary to finish.
At the end of the day, he's great, and he's going to become a billionaire athlete, but why be a d-bag in the process?
Then I finally understood... Today I was reading an article about people hating LeBron and sending him nasty Tweets - but that he understands (when it's obvious he really doesn't). That's when this piece of gold jumped off the page:
As a supporter of the Yankees, Cowboys and Ohio State, he's actually having a tough week with all three having troubles lately.
He's THAT guy. The guy that we have been discussing that attaches himself inexplicably to the Yankees and Cowboys. Then I remembered when he wore the Yankee lid to the Cleveland game... I had forgotten about him being "Yankee fan" until this morning.
That explains so much...


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LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) - It was a somber day for family and friends of Peggy Merimon as they were finally able to lay her to rest. Nearly 4-years-ago, Merimon disappeared from the Lubbock State School where she worked.
Search after search turned up nothing, then, two months ago, a hunter discovered her remains in north Lubbock County. On Saturday her family remembered the life she lived.
It has been a long, rough journey for Merimon's family to get to where they are today."My mom was determined to take situations that were bad and turn them into good," said her son Sven Appleton.
Dozens gathered at Trinity Church Saturday morning to say one last goodbye. For years this family has stuck together and always tried to remain strong.
"I've heard many times throughout the last four years that myself and the rest of my family has been a inspiration and in a strange way at least for me a source of strength for so many. We have simply responded to a horrible situation in the way that we were taught," said Appleton.
Peggy leaves behind a huge family of seven children and 25 grandchildren, and 24-years-ago on Saturday, she married her husband Gearl.
"She loved all of the holidays, but there was something special to her about the fourth of July celebrating with friends and family, freedom, heritage. She was a patriot. She never served in the military, but she certainly went to battle many times for her kids and her family and her friends. She understood sacrifice," said Appleton.
And while they believe she is in a better place, saying goodbye is still hard. "Mom, you have fought the good fight, you have finished the race, you have kept the faith, and you have taught me all that I need to know, and I am so grateful," said Appleton.
A family is one step closer to peace, as they remember a loved one who had so much life to live. This family's journey is not over yet. Next will be the trial for Mickey Patterson. He is charged with murder for Merimon's and her co-worker Kay Harrelson's deaths. No date has been set for that yet.
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2012 Missouri Republican Party Platform
"Reclaiming America's Future"
Most of what is important in life we do for ourselves, without the government. We form our own families and raise our own children. We choose what we want to do in life. We pray to our God as we choose; we form and join the religious and civic groups that care for our neighbors in need and shape the direction of our state. There are only a few things we need the government to do for us; but it should do those things well and faithfully.
Missourians deserve a state and national government with the vision to see the bright future ahead and the effective leadership to guide us there. We pledge to provide both the vision and the effective leadership Missourians deserve.
WE BELIEVE that all of us are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is our fundamental belief that our morals, our values and our culture are derived from Almighty God. To quote the Psalmist, "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord." Psalm 33:12.
WE BELIEVE that the strength of America is in the hearts and homes of its citizens.
WE BELIEVE in the right of Missourians to be secure in their persons, their homes and their communities.
WE BELIEVE government governs best when it governs least.
WE BELIEVE that all political power is vested in, and derived from, the people; that all government originates from the people, is founded upon their will only, and is instituted solely for the good of the whole.
WE BELIEVE the role of the federal government should be "to ensure domestic tranquility, to provide for the common defense and to promote the general welfare." And we believe that the 10th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution grants all other duties to the states.
WE BELIEVE the Republican Party is the best vehicle to build on the principles of free enterprise, personal responsibility, economic opportunity, strong families, moral values and sound government.
WE COMMEND the efforts of elected Republican officials at the county and local levels. We encourage their work to advance good government.
WE COMMEND the efforts of elected Republican officials at the state level. Without question, Missourians are better off with Republicans leading both chambers of the Legislature.
WE COMMEND the efforts of elected Republican officials at the federal level. We encourage their continued efforts to balance the federal budget, to reign in the growth of the federal bureaucracy, to empower the states and reverse the trend towards socialism and the high taxes that pay for it.
WE BELIEVE that the first 3 years of the Obama-Biden administration has been marred by an unprecedented level of government spending and overreach. National Democrats have abused the political process to pass a health care bill that we believe to be unconstitutional. They have accelerated already-unsustainable federal spending and racked up record amounts of debt. And they have ushered in an era of out-of-control rule-making by federal agencies that has stalled the economic recovery.
WE BELIEVE the election of a Republican president and Republican U.S. Senate will reverse the past several years of Democrat mismanagement and, by reining in Washington and restoring government to its proper place, will give our citizens the opportunity to once again realize the American Dream.
The people of Missouri should be taxed only to the extent necessary to provide a balanced budget, funding the essential functions of government in a manner that is simple, equitable and uniform. Missouri families can be trusted to know how to spend their money more wisely than government. Free enterprise and fiscal responsibility go hand in hand. Creating an environment in which high-quality, family-supporting jobs can flourish must be a priority.
Job Creation
We believe that the free market creates jobs and allocates resources much more efficiently than government. Extreme and unnecessary federal regulations have stifled innovation, killed jobs, and restrained the economic recovery. Whenever possible, the government should get out of the way and allow entrepreneurs and businesses, small and large, do what they do best: put Americans back to work.
Therefore, the Missouri Republican Party SUPPORTS:
- Reducing government regulations and restrictions that prevent the creation of jobs and the growth of Missouri businesses.
- Enacting a moratorium on new federal regulations to reduce regulatory uncertainty caused by out-of-control federal bureaucracies.
- Reforming the workers compensation system to balance the rights of employees and their employers.
- Continued efforts to limit job-killing frivolous lawsuits.
- Opening new markets for Missouri products.
- · Extending all current tax rates due to expire on December 31, 2012.
- Eliminating the Death Tax.
- Eliminating the Alternative Minimum Tax.
- Reducing the overall combined tax burden.
- Revitalizing Missouri's urban communities through policies that encourage the creation of jobs and economic opportunities in those areas.
Spending & Debt
In recent years, the federal government has seen an unprecedented explosion of debt that will have to be paid off by future generations. This must be stopped before it's too late. Governments must learn to live within their means—just as Missouri families do every day.
Therefore, the Missouri Republican Party SUPPORTS:
- Passage of a federal Balanced Budget Amendment to the US Constitution to be adopted by the states and not by constitutional convention.
- Balancing the state budget without increasing taxes.
- Streamlining of government services to avoid duplication at the city, county and state level.
- Continuing to streamline the state and federal government by eliminating fraud, waste and abuse.
- Using technology and improved management principles to deliver the highest quality of government services at the lowest possible cost.
- Keeping and enforcing the Hancock Amendment and electing officials who respect its goals and principles.
- Performance of government functions at the level of government closest to the people who can most efficiently perform the task.
Health Care Freedom
Every Missouri citizen should be able to choose and access a health plan that meets their needs at a price they can afford, without the interference of the federal or state government. Seniors deserve more health care choices and assistance, where needed, to enable them to access appropriate care and services.
Therefore, the Missouri Republican Party SUPPORTS:
- Efforts to overturn "Obamacare" and the individual mandate, including the various constitutional challenges to the law.
- Proposition C, which exempts Missouri from the federal health care law's individual mandate, and which Missourians passed with an overwhelming 71% of the vote in 2010.
- Allowing every American to purchase health insurance policies across state lines.
- Giving every American the ability to maintain a Health Savings Account (HSA) and removing any requirement that individuals must obtain a high-deductible insurance policy before opening up an HSA.
- Empowering Missourians to purchase their own personal health insurance, including allowing small business owners to join together to purchase quality, affordable health insurance for themselves and their employees.
- Missouri's legal reform law that stopped the abuse and misuse of Missouri's judicial system through the filing of frivolous lawsuits and has allowed doctors to remain in our state.
Cap & Trade & the Environment
At a time when the state and federal economies are faltering, some in Washington have proposed extreme, job-killing measures to regulate carbon dioxide. While it is important to balance economic growth and the environment, these regulations, which would raise prices on every single person in the country, are a step too far. Instead of extreme measure that make energy more expensive, we need an all-of-the-above approach to energy that utilizes the U.S.'s vast energy resources—our economic and national security depends on it.
Therefore, the Missouri Republican Party SUPPORTS:
- Efforts to prevent any state or federal cap & trade scheme from taking effect.
- Efforts to prevent the EPA from unilaterally regulating carbon dioxide.
- Providing reliable, affordable and environmentally sound energy for America's future, reducing our dependence on foreign sources of energy and responsibly providing for the development of our domestic energy sources.
- Efforts to promote conservation and diversify our energy supply.
- Environmental regulation premised upon sound free market principles and the elimination of environmental regulation that imposes excessive financial burdens for tenuous incremental benefit.
Educating Our Children
The education of Missouri's children is much more than the first fiscal priority mandated in the Missouri Constitution—it is our moral imperative. Education is a true vehicle of opportunity, but we believe excessive federal government intervention in local schools hinders achievement. Control over schools should be returned to the local level, where parents have more say in how their children are educated.
Therefore, the Missouri Republican Party SUPPORTS:
- Efforts at the state and federal levels to adopt a fair system that grants parents the ability to help their children escape failing schools and attend schools of their choice—whether private, charter, home schooling, or public.
- Quick action to address the urban education crisis that has already sacrificed the futures of generations of young people.
- The foundation formula that funds education based on the needs of our children rather than the taxing capacity of a school district.
- Education savings accounts that are tax exempt and may be used for meeting educational expenses for each individual or family member without penalty for withdrawal.
- Local school boards in their efforts to guarantee quality instruction and to remove an unfit teacher.
- Reforming teacher tenure to ensure that the best teachers, regardless of their length of employment, remain in classrooms.
- Establishing a merit pay system that rewards the most effective teachers.
- Policies to reduce bullying in schools.
- Policies that stress the importance of parents in the education system and allow and encourage parents to play an active role in their local education system.
- The authority of parents as the primary educators of their children in all matters, including morality, sexual orientation and responsibility.
- The fundamental right of parents to raise their children according to the convictions of their family and faith, to be the primary authority to determine and direct the nurturing, health care, education, guidance, discipline, and moral upbringing of their children including, the ability to home-school or send children to faith-based schools free of burdensome government regulations.
- Protecting children, in our public schools and any public entity where computers and the Internet are made readily available, from pornography on the Internet, with local entities choosing the proper filter.
- Rejecting the establishment of school-based clinics/health links that dispense contraceptives and provide abortion counseling.
- Requiring the informed consent of a parent or guardian before providing health, mental health or substance abuse treatment services to minor students in public schools.
- Empowering local school districts to determine how best to handle the teaching of creationism and the theory of evolution.
- Encouraging people to use their real life experience to teach in elementary and secondary schools.
Property Rights
Landowners have the right to manage their property, as good stewards of the land, without government interference. We believe the source of our riches is embodied in the production of our foods and the protection of our environment. We realize the wealth of our nation comes from the land and the conservation and wise use of our resources are essential to the future of America. We understand that agriculture is Missouri's largest industry and we support the great work of all our farming families.
Therefore, the Missouri Republican Party SUPPORTS:
- The restricted use of eminent domain only in cases when it is necessary for the benefit of the general public and only when full and adequate compensation is provided to the property owner.
- Policies and programs that enhance agricultural production.
- Efforts to oppose the federal Department of Labor's proposed restrictions on children's work on family farms.
- Value-added production and job growth by processing our raw agricultural products in Missouri.
- A long-term agricultural policy that enhances Missouri family farms and their ability to compete.
- A common-sense approach to environmental policy by both the federal and state governments that does not infringe upon the rights of landowners.
- Limitations upon excessive land-use regulation and zoning that deny property owners the fair use of their property.
- Policies that recognize that food production and environmental protection are both essential to life in our society.
- Sound river-management policies that do not threaten the flooding of farmland.
- Encouraging the pursuit of agriculture, promoting agriculture-based economic opportunities, and protecting farming in Missouri by allowing agricultural uses and related activities to function with minimal conflict.
Freedom is not America's gift to the world; freedom is God's gift to each individual. America has a solemn duty to stand for freedom, at home and abroad, and a special responsibility to help make the world a more peaceful place. Fighting for freedom in foreign lands helps prevent the necessity of fighting the enemies of freedom in our homeland.
Homeland Security
Since September 11, 2001, America has made tremendous progress in protecting and defending our homeland. We have improved the government's ability to protect our infrastructure, guard our borders and patrol our skies.
Therefore, the Missouri Republican Party SUPPORTS:
- Taking the War on Terror directly to the enemies of freedom.
- The continued work of the federal and state Departments of Homeland Security and the increased coordination in the gathering and use of intelligence.
- The fair application of the Patriot Act as a means to provide law enforcement authorities with the tools necessary to prevent terrorist attacks while protecting our individual liberties.
- Greater security at our borders to prevent illegal immigrants and terrorists from entering our country.
- Revamping the system of monitoring the status of all visas, including student and work visas, and mandating better background checks on all aliens applying for visas.
- All efforts to root out the agents of terror and protect Americans from the evils of terrorism.
Strong National Defense
Defending the nation against its enemies is the first and fundamental commitment of the federal government. America must use its position of unparalleled strength and influence to create a balance of power in the world that favors freedom.
Therefore, the Missouri Republican Party SUPPORTS:
- A strong national defense that protects our strategic interests and those of our allies.
- Extending the peace by seeking to spread the benefits of freedom and prosperity across the globe and fostering an era of good relations among the world's great powers.
- Committing the resources necessary to fight and win the War on Terror, including ongoing military and civilian operations around the world.
- Defending the peace by opposing and preventing violence by terrorists and outlaw regimes both at home and abroad.
- The expansion of all technologies, including the national missile defense system, which will allow the United States to intercept any nuclear attack before it reaches our borders.
- Protecting the size and strength of our armed forces.
- The care and treatment of all returning troops, active duty, Guard, and Reserve, during and after military service.
- Improving the compensation provided to military personnel and providing better benefits to their spouses and families.
- Honoring our commitment to all military personnel, veterans and their families.
- Maintaining and expanding each of our excellent military facilities in Missouri.
- A strong Missouri National Guard and Reserve as an element of the national military structure and support to civil authority in time of emergency or disaster.
- All troops deployed by the United States government.
- The integrity and independence of our U.S. troops under U.S. command.
- The military's courageous efforts to protect us from the threat of global terrorism.
- The special relationship between our state and nation and our strong ally Israel.
- The integrity of all military chaplains and their historic unfettered ministries, including the use of insignia and unregulated religious performance liberties.
- The Missouri National Guard's 'Partner in Care' program, linking local churches as a support network for chaplains' and ministry needs of our service men and women.
Protecting our Borders
America's immigrants helped forge a nation built on a foundation of laws. We welcome those who continue to look to America to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness—and we owe it to the legal immigrants who respected our nation's laws to prevent those who break our rules from entering the country illegally. Securing our borders against illegal immigration must be a priority in the ongoing battle against international terrorism and in our efforts to ensure that only law-abiding citizens receive the benefits to which they are entitled.
Therefore, the Missouri Republican Party SUPPORTS:
- An immigration policy that does not include amnesty for illegal immigrants.
- Preventing illegal immigrants from receiving taxpayer benefits.
- Securing the border to prevent illegal immigrants or terrorists from entering the country.
- Fair and effective efforts to assure that people who register to vote in our elections are indeed citizens of the United States lawfully entitled to cast a ballot.
- Empowering state and local law enforcement agencies with the authority, responsibility, and resources needed to detain illegal immigrants within the course of their regular duties.
- Punishing employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.
- Prohibiting federal funding for so-called sanctuary cities.
- Eliminating laws that automatically allow children of illegal immigrants in the U.S. to become American citizens.
Law Enforcement and the Administration of Justice
The Missouri Republican Party is committed to supporting our brave law enforcement personnel and a fair and swift judicial system that protects us from those who would hurt our families or threaten our communities. Missourians deserve protection from the concerns and fears associated with crime and drugs. Our law enforcement officers are putting their lives on the line every day to protect us. They need and deserve our help.
Therefore, the Missouri Republican Party SUPPORTS:
- Protection of individual liberties guaranteed under the Constitution.
- Appointment of federal and state judges who believe in the rule of law and understand that the role of a judge is to interpret our laws, not make them.
- Preventing activist judges from violating the Missouri Constitution by imposing burdensome taxes on hard-working Missourians.
- Opening the selection process for Missouri State Judges to the public in accordance with the Sunshine Law.
- Efforts by the Missouri General Assembly to improve the selection of Missouri judges and reduce the influence of special interests in the selection process.
- Expansion of state laws that fully protect our children against sexual predators.
- Aggressive enforcement of existing laws related to child pornography and adult-oriented industries that target Missouri families and children, and further development of law enforcement tools to protect Missourians from such exploitation.
- Continued efforts to address the special concerns of spouses, children, older people and others who become victims of abuse.
- An act of Congress mandating the supremacy and controlling authority of the U.S Constitution and federal law and the constitutions and laws of the several states and prohibiting federal courts from according any United Nations or foreign court declaration, law or precedent any weight or authority greater than such federal and state constitutional and statutory authority.
- Prohibiting the transfer of power and sovereignty from our United States government to foreign powers and international organizations.
- Prohibiting the further expansion of gambling within Missouri beyond that already authorized.
- An amendment to the U.S. Constitution to prohibit the desecration of the American flag.
- Strict enforcement of current laws on gambling.
- Zero tolerance for illegal drugs and those who make, sell and distribute illegal drugs.
- Preserving and interpreting the Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, in the manner intended by the founding fathers.
- State law allowing law-abiding Missourians to carry concealed firearms and other Second Amendment protections such as the Castle Doctrine and the protection of those rights during emergencies.
- The strict enforcement of existing gun laws but not the creation of new and unnecessary gun control laws.
- Limiting frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers.
- Limiting government's ability to over-regulate ownership of all guns and firearms.
- Efforts by the Federal Communications Commission to enhance the enforcement of obscenity and decency standards on television and radio and to increase the punishments for violators.
- Swift judgment and sure and appropriate punishment of those who are guilty, with limits on the number of appeals.
- Capital punishment, where called for and administered in a fair and constitutional manner, with all protection afforded by judicial review but without protracted and frivolous appeals.
- Greater latitude for law enforcement officials to use incriminating evidence in the courts.
- Creating a consistent standard for trying violent juvenile offenders as adults.
- Making records of violent juvenile offenders available to school and local authorities.
- Requiring drug testing for welfare recipients when there is reasonable suspicion that the individual is using illicit substances.
Protecting the Integrity of Elections
The legitimacy of our democracy comes from the knowledge that every American has equal say in the elections that determine the direction of our nation. Those who cheat not only dilute the lawfully cast ballots of their fellow Missourians, but they undermine the foundation of our entire political system.
Therefore, the Missouri Republican Party SUPPORTS:
- Requiring voter photo-identification to prevent voter fraud.
- Efforts to assure fair and honest elections, making sure all legally cast votes are not diluted, but are counted so that all participants respect the integrity of the election.
- Creating a more efficient and secure system of voting by our military personnel, which guarantees that those who are on the front lines have a say in governing our country.
- Strict and swift prosecution of election fraud—including ACORN-style voter registration fraud.
- The use of fair and nonbiased ballot language for petition-driven initiatives.
- Special elections in the event of vacancies in statewide constitutional offices.
- Efforts to oppose the National Popular Vote interstate compact, which would eliminate the Electoral College.
- The right of the State Legislature to alter and revise, with respect to the intention of the voters, legislation passed through ballot proposition in order to protect Missourians from misleading campaigns.
Faith & Family
Families are the bedrock of Missouri. This question should measure every public policy: Does it strengthen or weaken our families? Policies that strengthen our families should be pursued. Those that would weaken the family structure must be discarded.
The Fundamental Right to Life
God-given rights for all citizens, including the fundamental right to life for born and unborn children, the aged, the terminally ill and the handicapped, should be provided for in our laws and in our Constitution. We believe that life begins at conception and reaffirm our support for a human life amendment to the Constitution. We endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to unborn children and encourage those institutions, including faith-based initiatives, which take a proactive approach in teaching sexual responsibility, including abstinence, to our young people.
Therefore, the Missouri Republican Party SUPPORTS:
- Legislation overturning Roe v. Wade and the appointment of federal and state judges that respect the sanctity of innocent human life.
- Current state law providing women seeking an abortion with information regarding alternatives such as adoption and increasing tax credits to encourage adoption.
- Legislation requiring that a minor obtain parental notification and consent before obtaining an abortion.
- An immediate end to partial-birth abortions.
- Preventing taxpayer money from being spent on abortions or being given to organizations which perform abortions or make abortion referrals.
- Legislation that prevents public employees from making abortion referrals.
- Current state law that ensures that abortion clinics meet the same Department of Health standards required of comparable surgical facilities in the state.
- The compassionate work of individuals and organizations that offer alternatives to abortions by meeting the physical, emotional and financial needs of pregnant women and those support systems necessary for legal adoption.
- Legislation to prohibit all human cloning.
- Legislation to define and standardize Missouri's informed consent law, and to prohibit and penalize coercion of women to have an abortion.
- Legislation to prohibit "assisted suicide."
The traditional family is the foundation of our great history and is critical to our future. Building futures through hard work and personal responsibility are American values that should be encouraged by government policy.
Therefore, the Missouri Republican Party SUPPORTS:
- Missouri's constitutional amendment, approved by more than 70 percent of Missourians, clearly stating that only marriages between one man and one woman will be valid and recognized, whether performed in Missouri or any other state or nation.
- Efforts to promote healthy marriages.
- A permanent end to the marriage penalty in the tax code.
Missouri's many and diverse faith communities are critical to the rich fabric of our society. Government has nothing to fear from people of faith and much to gain. Faith communities should be embraced and allowed to offer assistance to those in need without undue bureaucratic interference. The most powerful sources of charity, virtue, and shared prosperity in our society are not found in government, but in families, houses of worship, charities, and free markets. The Missouri Republican Party believes in protecting the religious freedom of citizens.
Therefore, the Missouri Republican Party SUPPORTS:
- Freedom to practice religion, as an individual choice, including the ability to pray in school.
- Protecting the acknowledgement of God in our public life.
- Keeping the phrase "one nation under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance.
- Keeping "In God We Trust" on our currency and in other public declarations.
- All efforts to honor and preserve America's religious heritage, including the public display of the 10 Commandments or other religious symbols, and to remain true to the principles upon which this nation was founded.
- Passage of a Prayer Amendment to the Missouri Constitution as adopted by the Missouri Legislature in 2011, which will be submitted to the voters of Missouri for approval in the 2012 fall elections.
2012 Missouri Republican Party Platform Committee
Senator Tom Dempsey - Chairman
Sharon Barnes
David Cole
Sue Cook
Susie Eckelkamp
Gary Harris
Penny Henke
Darrell Proctor
John Scates
Shirley Simmons
Pat Thomas


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Sorry you could never be a PUMA, Lin. Actually, I don't understand why. This diary has outlined some of the very many reasons long time Democrats like me have chosen that option. Actually, I see no other option. I thing Mr. BO is an empty suit and a fraud. And that's because I've been in it since February and have been paying attention to more than the MSM...besides doing my own research. I miss you at Hillary's voice. I miss your pro-Hillary diaries. I know she wouldn't mind if you continued to support her. Susanclare
comment on a post Puma Bashing [Updated] over 6 years ago
comment on a post I am keeping this short... but I am PISSED! - Update over 6 years ago
So...don't vote for the guy! The democratic party needs to be reclaimed. We need to make a statement that we are not happy with the primary process or the anointed candidate!!!!!!!!!!!!
comment on a post PUMA Pac Founder, Murphy, "NOT a Republican" (Updated 3x) over 6 years ago
Thanks for founding PUMA. I agree with your premise. Why are you so heavily scrutinized and BO gets a pass on just about everything? Ms. Murphy, hang in there. We must all stick together.
comment on a post The Audacity to Hold Them Accountable over 6 years ago
Right on, Cyn!!!!
comment on a post Open Letter to Linfar over 6 years ago
Cat - thanks for addressing an issue we have all been thinking about. Linfar was once one of the shining stars...so thanks. The questions needed to be asked.
on a comment on Open Letter to Linfar over 6 years ago
You are apparently a typical bot...thoughtless, classless and clueless. Those of us eschewing Mr. BO are doing it because he is an extremelty low-level candidate. And his supporters continue to confirm that thesis.
comment on a post Message from Hillary Clinton - Retire Campaign Debt [Updated x2] over 6 years ago
You go, Patriot. Stay the course. NOBAMA. No Way. No How. And we have many reasons...susanclare
comment on a post Dishonoring Hillary [UPDATED] over 6 years ago
linfar, for me it is not about going against what Hillary requested. It is a gut level response to Mr. BO. I THINK HE IS A TERRIBLE CANDIDATE. In spite of being a long time loyal democrat, I therefore cannot support him. I also have been appalled by a process that was so flawed it made my stomach turn. I cannot forget these things. It would compromise my integrity and my patriotism to support a candidate I detest and do not respect. That could be the downside in getting myself so involved in the process. Perhaps like many Americans, ignorance would have been bliss. So forgive me, as I have asked Hillary to forgive me, for not being able to support the democratic nominee (presumptive). I therefore do visit groups that support alternative points of view. There were 18 million of us who supported Hillary Clinton. I hope many of us will stay the course.
comment on a post One Helluva Fight!!! [Update] over 6 years ago
Lin, cannot agree with you on this one. Why? Because the process was so flawed. If we let Brazile and Dean get away with this stuff, there is no point to even having a democratic party. I do not trust BO. Period. Just because he has the moniker democrat, what does that mean? He's been gliding through without doing any work for years. Just give a good speech, use the ole Chicage style politics to knock off your opponent and get a new job! Sorry, I trust the check and balances to keep the country from imploding if McCain is elected. Plus, I don't think he's THAT bad. Look who we've had for almost 8 years? I will be voting for neither. Yup, it's a sad day when a person feels the only answer is not to vote. Perhaps I'll go Green. BO does not deserve my vote. The fight was rigged!!!!!!!!
comment on a post It's a Tie! (Popular Vote v. Pledged Delegates) over 6 years ago
Thanks, Texas. It's hard to keep going when there is a wave, a heavy weight of BO supporters stealing the show. I found it interesting that the MSM failed to mention that the superD vote did not count until August. This, after numerous delegates have shifted support (mostly to BO (the cowards)). It really isn't over until August. The media should be making that clear. Of course, they are BO fawners and would not dare point out the truth.
comment on a post My Mother and Hillary over 6 years agoYour mom's perceptions were right on! I suspect when the dust settles and someone dares to do an honest analysis of this primary, BO slimy tactics, particulary in the caucus states will be revealed. But again, too late. It is difficult not to be cynical about the so-called democratic process in our country. The more one learns, the more cynical one gets. Check out the repub's latest ad on BO's thin resume. The MSM should have been talking about this since the primary began. BO has surely earned the moniker of the true teflon candidate. This long-time democrat cannot vote for BO. I've learned too much about him. Very sad...the party has again lost its mind!
And now it's the country that will suffer. And that's real people I'm talking about here!
comment on a post Updates Re Texas Caucus Fraud over 6 years ago
Thanks, Alegre. This stuff should have had MSM headlines weeks ago. The press is not doing its job. BO really knows how to game the system. And those who could put it out there just turn their backs. We have a problem, Houston! The future solution is to do away with the caucus system. This would be justified based on voter participation discrepancies alone.
comment on a post The Caucuses over 6 years ago
Yes...something the MSM SHOULD be talking about...but, gosh, why don't they? Is there a pattern here? Thanks for the research and the post! Nice work!
comment on a post Only A Matter Of Degree over 6 years ago
Wow... the Obamabots are certainly over the top this evening. I know metaphor can sometimes be a little difficult to comprehend but, golly gee, I thought the bots were supposed to be intellectual types...but, come to think of it, reading their comments certainly immediately dismisses that notion. It was time you pointed out the obvious, lin. Good job!!!!!!!!!!!
comment on a post HILLARY: Why I Continue to Run (My 2 Cents) over 6 years ago
Yes, Alegre, Yes. This needs to be said over and over again. I wonder how this wonderful candidate can be doing so well when just about every pundit, journalist and talking head seems to be out to get her. I have concluded that the only explanation is that it's the people who want Hillary Clinton. I know, how quaint, to think the people count in this so-called democratic election...Yes, Hillary take it to Denver.