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Mr Beaks lays a steaming pile on Paul W.S. Anderson's ALIEN VS PREDATOR script!!!
Hey folks, Harry here... never particularly shy of pointing at Paul W. S. Anderson and hurling venom as if he caused the fires in California or ruined a great Kurt Russell movie... oh wait, he did ruin a great Kurt Russell movie. Anyway, though I have read the ALIEN VS PREDATOR script and feel that it is at least 3 times worse than Beaks is letting on, I figure I'll let him tell it... as, well he foolishly appreciates RESIDENT EVIL, which though having moments, remains an open ass sore on the film that George Romero could have made at the same price. BUT - that's neither here nor there... Here's Beaks though... Go get em!
Is it possible for Paul W.S. Anderson to get a fair shake on AICN?
I suppose so. I've never harbored any real animus for the guy. Hell, had I been invited to a press screening for RESIDENT EVIL, I would've opined somewhat positively as I did on the CHUD Message Boards back when I saw the film during its initial release. My assessment from 3/17/02:
"RESIDENT EVIL is the best film ever adapted from a video game. Faint praise, to be sure, but I'm amazed that it held my interest and didn't insult my intelligence. I didn't scrutinize the film's internal logic too strenuously, but it seemed fairly consistent.
I will, however, agree with those harping on the jarringly awful Beltrami/Manson score, which was poorly integrated into the film. Also, the sound editing on this film was terrible, but that's nitpicking.
As someone helpless to resist even the worst genre films, I'm thankful that Anderson rose above his previous work to finally deliver a film of true mediocrity."
Not exactly a rave, but it's not calling for his head, either, as my red-headed tormentor infamously did in his review of SOLDIER. So, it was with that minor triumph in mind that I cracked open a recent draft of Anderson's next big ticket assignment, ALIEN VS. PREDATOR, figuring that the guy was building up to something – perhaps getting warmed up to bust through the ceiling of mediocrity and, finally, deliver a genuinely *good* film. (First talk backer that defends EVENT HORIZON as anything more than the listless sum of its intriguing set design gets set on fire. Seriously, folks, it had a fucking CARRIE ending.) Aiding him immensely, as far as my judgment is concerned, is the fact that I'm not expecting much from a film called ALIEN VS. PREDATOR.
This past summer, I took some shit from some of my interweb colleagues for having the temerity to actually like FREDDY VS. JASON. My argument all along has been that my expectations were lowered to the level of the material, just as they were when, as a kid, I would settle down in front of the tube on a Saturday afternoon to watch, say, FRANKENSTEIN MEETS THE WOLF MAN, DRACULA VS. FRANKENSTEIN, KING KONG VS. GODZILLA, and the ne plus ultra of all monster mixers, DESTROY ALL MONSTERS. These were not good movies by any reasonable standard, but viewed in their proper context, they're entertaining junk. Most of them were also cobbled together to inject new life, or, more often, squeeze the last remaining ounce of profitability from their respective franchises. But so long as they proceeded respectfully, what was the harm? That's more or less what the makers of FREDDY VS. JASON accomplished, and it should, in turn, serve as the guiding philosophy for not only ALIEN VS. PREDATOR, but all the other combo meals on the studio menu, including MICHAEL MYERS VS. PINHEAD and JAWS VS. CHUCKY, to which, it has been whispered around town, Stacy Snider has zealously committed herself lest her entire tenure at Universal be considered a failure.
So, just how respectful has Paul W.S. Anderson been? We'll get to that, but if I were to compare this to any of the previous installments in either franchise, I'd say it most closely resembles PREDATOR 2 in tone and faithfulness to the source material. As for how it stacks up against Steve Perry's graphic novels… well, I only read PREY, and that was certainly much more entertaining than this; however, to be fair, he didn't have to contend with the budget limitations with which Anderson has been saddled.
But that doesn't excuse the guy for banging out something as stubbornly unimaginative as this.
The script (with revisions by Shane Salerno) begins with the massacre of a Northern Cambodian hunting party in 2000 B.C. by what we first assume, given the dense jungle setting, is a Predator. Get ready for that perception shift, kids… it's actually an ALIEN!!! (Please, contain your excitement!) It dispatches each member of the party with the brutal alacrity we've come to expect from these nasty xenomorphs, and is about to finish off the alpha male when it's struck suddenly by an optical blast. There's that Predator we were expecting. With the Alien badly wounded, the Predator steps into view, pulls out its twin blades, and slings them into the dying beast. Cut to opening credits.
Not exactly pulse-quickening stuff, but you better get used to it; the script is shot through with this determined lack of invention. Following this pre-credit "grabber", Anderson then takes us to a receiving station owned by Weyland Industries (as of this draft, "The Company" is completely M.I.A.), where bored satellite technicians suddenly make an alarming discovery in some remote area of the globe; thus, setting in motion the global roundup of our dramatis personae.
First, we meet ALEXIA "LEX" KLINE (to be played by the lovely Sanaa Lathan), a fearless environmental activist whose research holiday in the Alaskan National Park is interrupted by a phone call informing her that Weyland Industries – in particular, Weyland himself – has offered to fund her foundation for a year (cue JURASSIC PARK theme). Then, there's archaeologist SEBASTIAN WELLS, a rugged ladies man who's whisked away from a disastrous dig in Mexico just as its being taken over by his unprincipled and better-financed rival, BELLOQ—er, VERHEIDEN. Finally, we swing down to the Smithsonian in Washington, D.C. to pick up GRAHAM MILLER, a geeky chemical engineer who isn't keen on leaving the office.
They're all deposited on an ice breaker setting sail for Antarctica where they're introduced to billionaire industrialist CHARLES WEYLAND (to be played by Lance Henriksen in a shameless attempt to court fanboy goodwill and to derail pre-production for THE MANGLER 3: WHY, YAHWEH, WHY?), who briefs them on the reason for their hasty assemblage. A sudden "heat bloom" under the ice of Antarctica allowed Weyland's satellites to pick up what appear to be the outline of a system of pyramids. If true, this could validate Wells's assertion that the seemingly disparate ancient peoples of South America, Africa and Asia all grew out of a master culture that might have existed on this southernmost continent before it froze over. This is all disputed by Verheiden, who, much to Wells's consternation, has been brought along for the ride to spice up the proceedings before Predators start fighting Aliens.
Speaking of which, it's about this time that we cut to a Predator spacecraft that just so happens to be keeping tabs on Weyland's icebreaker. The hunt is about to begin.
Upon reaching Antarctica, Lex leads the team to the spot where Weyland's deep core drillers will break through the icy surface, detonate a nuclear weapon, and save the Earth from certain destruction. Oh, silly me, that's THE SEDUCTION OF JOE TYNAN! Actually, the drilling team finds that their work has suspiciously already been done for them, and at a level of precision heretofore unseen by Weyland's men. Worrying that a competing concern has beaten them to the punch, the group bravely descends 2,000 feet below the surface. Sure enough, they find their pyramids. But, rather unexpectedly, they also find hundreds of human skeletons (one of which, it appears, had something burst out of its ribcage). As they venture further into the pyramid, they enter into a sarcophagus chamber where they find a cache of bizarre, far-from-primitive weapons; i.e., Predator guns. Though Sebastian cautions against removing these artifacts, Verheiden, ever the glory seeker, swipes one of the guns from the sarcophagus. Suddenly, the pyramid begins to transform itself, setting in motion a chain reaction that reaches into yet another chamber where a captive QUEEN ALIEN is hauled out of a vapor pool by a system of chains. Right away, the "bitch" starts laying eggs. It's about to be somebody's ass.
The action of the above paragraph is intercut with the happenings 2,000 feet above, where the Predator spacecraft lands, leading to the subsequent and very swift massacre of the roughnecks. But when the Predators hit the Pyramid, they're alarmed to find that the Alien birthing process has already commenced. Whatever they're up to, these pesky humans have thrown a big ol' acid bleeding wrench into their plans. This sets up a mayhem-filled third act that pits Aliens vs. Predators vs. Humans vs. The Audience's Intelligence.
While I'm a fan of the first PREDATOR film, I've never really felt that the title was worthy of the franchise. As for ALIEN, I firmly believe that the series should've ended at three, which, warts and all, still managed to give Ripley a dour, but beautiful sendoff. Had PREDATOR 2 been a continuation of Dutch's story – his survival making him something of a prized pelt to other Predators – maybe I would've cared. Better yet, had anyone other than Stephen Hopkins directed the film, maybe it would've had an outside chance at being watchable. In any event, what I'm saying is that these franchises both feel like they've gone one installment too many. It's strictly about a quick score at the box office now. Judging from this script, I think it's fair to say that Anderson's only in it for the money, too.
The characterizations are beyond stock, with only Weyland resonating thanks to a subplot that has him hiding his rapidly deteriorating health from the rest of the team. Lex is just a standard tough chick, though Anderson nicely undercuts the character by giving her a romantic past with the repulsive Verheiden. Meanwhile, as I've alluded to above, the story is little more than a cobbling together of greatest hits from other, better films, sparing the writer(s) the horrible burden of conjuring up a halfway original idea.
Though there's no shortage of Alien and Predator throw-downs in the third act, what I think will piss off the fans is the way this script thoroughly ignores the lore of the previous films. This is particularly irksome with regards to the ALIEN franchise, though I guess we can just chalk it up as horribly ironic that "The Company" had to go all that way into space to find an Alien when there was a well-preserved Queen just hanging out in Antarctica for reasons that I'll avoid spoiling, but… Christ, what a stupid idea! That the script ends with the suggestion that Aliens might wind up stalking the Earth in what is supposed to be the present day... can you say "goodbye series continuity"?
Granted, I wasn't terribly enthusiastic about this project in the first place, but, if anything, I'm far more forgiving than the devoted fans on whose foreheads Fox will be thumping this mushroom bruise of a motion picture. This is a Viking Funeral for both franchises that will result in a quick payoff for the studio. Maybe that's for the best.
But, hey, I'm still kinda looking forward to RESIDENT EVIL 2.
Faithfully submitted,
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Oct. 29, 2003, 12:15 a.m. CST
by Autolycus33
yes? no? maybe?
Oct. 29, 2003, 12:16 a.m. CST
oh...and Event Horizon had great sound in the theater
by Autolycus33
That's the only good thing I can say about PWSA as I like to call him.
Oct. 29, 2003, 12:30 a.m. CST
by SimpsonsQuoteMan
somebody just read a book on jung. jung? somebody wants to show how smart they are. ie me. duh. jeez you people are idiots. i'll get me coat.
Oct. 29, 2003, 12:36 a.m. CST
I will repeat what I said before...
by Rcamacho2278
WHY DOES IT HAVE TO TAKE PLACE ON EARTH!?!?!? I mean this is sci-fi right? Then why the fuck does it have to take place on earth? I mean god dammit this is so easy, and your gonna bring stupid fucken pyramids and shit into it? Why don't they have a dedicated fucken alien planet, where maybe predators actually used the entire planet for their ritualistic hunting . Didn't aliens take place hundreds of years after "present day". My god how stupid can hollywood and this man BE? When I think aliens vs predator I think of everyone being in a hostile world, where their strenghts and weaknesses are shown. What made aliens so exciting? It was how the aliens adapted and showed their habits, Put them in an alien world and show how they adapt, How intelligent they can be. What made predator so fucken cool? how he hunted...So have them hunt in a hostile enviroment and show how THEY adapt. Fuck, even show how humans can adapt. Have humans that KNOW aliens exist and how to fight them, but they never fought predators, so thats a new way to survive and pit them against each other...Human resourcefulness. Finally, Have Predators excel in diffrent skills. One likes to snipe, another likes to get up close. Have marines with persona's like that and pit them against each other. DAMMIT have FUN with the fucken movie, I swear, Harry I know how you feel now sometimes when dumb as shit hollywood can't fucken get it, why doesn't someone from hollywood hire me as a producer??? I need the money
Oct. 29, 2003, 12:40 a.m. CST
by SimpsonsQuoteMan
when will people realise that alien 3 is a flawed, but textually and thematically equal to the first and second alien films? when? WHEN? sunday? excellent. ps read http://www.grahamhancock.com/ if you want to read more about antarctica civilisation you nutbars. now i've got to go to emmett's fix it shop...to fix emmett.
Oct. 29, 2003, 12:53 a.m. CST
by Wesley Snipes
Verheiden is the surname of the author of many early, classic Aliens and/or Predator comics. Just a bit of nerdilicious trivia for you. I don't care about the originality shit in this case either. I haven't read any Predator comics that were particularly original and when it comes to Aliens franchise, originality seems to equal "irritating, self-important, artsie tripe". I'm far more worried about Anderson's handling of the action scenes. He's proven time and time again that he makes mediocre action scenes that are too brief and never particularly exciting.
Oct. 29, 2003, 12:59 a.m. CST
by Xorply
How come someone so hopelessly ruin such a potentially fun popcorn flick? Oh wait.... I was talking like I was actually expecting artistry with this project. Silly rabbit.
Oct. 29, 2003, 1:02 a.m. CST
NOT gonna pay to see this FOX
by failed musician
dude, i'll be watching this with a bunch of friend's after downloading it whilst drunk and stoned, cuz this shit is gonna suck, hard. fucking pointless to make this. and of course Fox will once again fuck HR Giger out of a credit for the original Alien design, though with a movie this bad, perhaps this time he won't care. no way i would pay money for this ever, anyone who defends avp still being a great idea is full of BS.
Oct. 29, 2003, 1:11 a.m. CST
Oh, Harry dumps on Paul WS Anderson's work and doesn't elaborate
by Hammer2Fall
Beaks didn't like the script, you instantly say it was so much worse. You claim to dislike Anderson simply because he's made one genre film after another that you didn't like. You wanna know the fault in that argument? You committed full reviews to Event Horizon and even Solider as much as you hated it, and you even mildly touched on Mortal Kombat...but you've still only given us a tiny bit or two about why you despised Resident Evil so much. So you didn't like the sound design...okay, that's ONE THING! That alone is what makes it a sore on the ass? Harry, honestly, how am I supposed to take your opinion seriously if you don't even take the time to write out a full review? And as for Soldier, has it ever occurred to you that Anderson was NOT solely responsible for how the end product came out? I didn't see his name on the writing credits, did you? Good heavens, could SOMEONE ELSE have fucked up rather than PWSA? You want to convince me that you didn't like ResEvil or the AVP script? For god's sake, man, take the fucking time to explain why! What worked? What didn't? Tell us something, dude! But don't insult our intelligence by just saying it sucked and move on! I'm not asking you to pretend to like him, just give us a few more details as to why you don't. Hell, you wanna see how someone who LIKES Paul's work breaks it down? Go to www.joblo.com/arrow and look up Arrow's reviews of any of PWSA's movies.
Oct. 29, 2003, 1:25 a.m. CST
blah, blah, blah ANDERSON SUCKS!!! blah, blah, blah
by Louis P.
All I read is the same Anderson bashing. The guy has only pooch-screwed one movie---Soldier---and this gives you all licence to bitch and moan about him. He has made a slew of "decent" movies. No, not great movies, even though I hold a special place for "Event Horizon" as flawed as it is. As for "Alien vs. Predator", yes there are better people for the job but I'm sure I'll enjoy it just the same.
Oct. 29, 2003, 1:29 a.m. CST
Shane Salerno
by Renata
This dumbass was quoted in the L.A. TImes once as saying "There's nothing worse than being an average person." What a dick! He writes piece of shit movies like this and Armageddon, sucking at the teat of Michael Bay, and he disses 90% of the population who work an average job so they can raise their families with love and dignity. Sorry, you dick, if my parents are just average blue collar folks. They never became "extraordinary" like you. Proud of writing ARMAGEDDON, aren't we? Hollywood just breeds assholes like this.
Oct. 29, 2003, 1:34 a.m. CST
Resident evil franchise
by brujoazul
I love the videogames, it struck a nerve in me and whatever form it comes i'll welcome it, just to find out where the story is gonna end. So even if its bad i don't care at least im getting to see my favorite game franchise on the big screen, now if they could only bring metal gear solid to hollywood...sigh.
Oct. 29, 2003, 1:39 a.m. CST
Shiver me timbers! Pirated is the only way I'll see this shit.
by funnylookingdog
I can't belive they passed on Jim Cameron's offer of Alien 5 for this festering pile.
Oct. 29, 2003, 1:40 a.m. CST
How Paul can save it...
by LostActionFigure
He can save it right now if he just writes in the terminator to the story. Just digitally put in Gov Arnie and call it Alien vs Predator vs Terminator. ITs GOLD! Oh and we could up the cheese by putting john connor hideing out in antartica to avoid the nuke war and he frees the aliens...
Oct. 29, 2003, 1:51 a.m. CST
This actually sounds much more interesting than I was expecting.
by Gere's AssGerbil
It can't be any worse than Resident Evil. And a correction to Mr. Beaks: the Alien franchise died after #2, not after #3. Personally, I think they should make AvsP a comedy. The Predator could try to do a "Moe" a poke the Alien in the eyes only to realize they don't have eyes. The the Alien says, "Oh, wiseguy, eh? Nyar-ar-ar!" Ha, ha. I need help.
Oct. 29, 2003, 1:58 a.m. CST
Abort! Abort! Abort!
by moviemaniac-7
Terrible idea from the beginning... Fox ruins any chance for continuing either series seriously. I mean, how can anybody take "Alien" or "Predator" serious after this? Now the plans that once were (Robert Rodriguez doing Predator 3 and Scott or Cameron doing Alien 5) were interesting if only for the choice of director. Shit, I won't even rent AvsP on DVD! Even the Peter Briggs script is better than the story line of this cliche-piece-of-junk. By the way, Event Horizon is the most watchable of Anderson's movies, but that's not saying too much, does it?
Oct. 29, 2003, 1:58 a.m. CST
why bother
by speed
PA movies are very sucky indeed. resident evil is a perfect example of how to destroy a great idea and turn it into blandness. the problem that many people have with PA is the fact that he is given access to projects with huge potential and turns out very average flicks. he crushes them creativity in them. the reason this guy keeps getting movies? i dunno, but i:m guessing he brings his work in on time and under budget and a tidy little profit due to video and dvd. his movies might suck but they make money. the studios are more to blame.
Oct. 29, 2003, 2:19 a.m. CST
Say Goodbye !
by LCD
Oct. 29, 2003, 2:33 a.m. CST
to the asshole who was promoting arrow in the head
by JoeStokowski
you're a fag. arrow is a fag. he shaves his arms. he plagiarizes like it's going out of style. he wears bandanas. he contradicts himself constantly.. just off the top of my head, he bashes bill moseley's performance in TCM2, then sucks his dick when interviewing him. what a fake. fuck you arrow, you dick.
Oct. 29, 2003, 2:51 a.m. CST
You don't start an Aliens vs. Predator movie with Aliens vs Pred
by Andy Travis
Granted, this is a silly-ass movie, but what ever happened to suspense? It's like they decided that the audience would riot if they didn't get some Alien/Predator action AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. And no one should be able do the whole "I'm a billionare who's willing to fund your project if you'll go do this thing for me" plot anymore. It's old, old, old...and it was stale when they dusted it off again in Jurassic Park 3.
Oct. 29, 2003, 2:54 a.m. CST
So where can WE read this script?
by shonin
Yeah I was just wondering if this dire sounding script was on the web for all to see? Anyone care to let me know where I can read it and it judge it for myself?
Oct. 29, 2003, 2:57 a.m. CST
by PurityOfEssence
Sounds terrible, I think it's a damn shame. Even though I am not a major fanboy of either series. But it is still a shame.
Oct. 29, 2003, 3:02 a.m. CST
Oh man... here, i've come up with a better film just off the top
by TheGinger Twit
... This may seem tacky, but christ, did you read the subject matter? Ok, so we have Predators out dropping aliens on all these worlds (seeding them, right?) and then as the aliens grow and multiply and take over, in come the predators for both fun, and approval as saviour status to the attacked worlds. Predators then take it upon themselves to take those creatures, be them humans or what not and seed worlds with them - their own worlds of course - I don't know... it gets a bit technical... and I am makingthis up as I go. So what's say the predators seed a small island of earth... or a big island - who cares. But then, the predator ship coming in to clean up crashes and there is only one or two predators that remain - both badly injured and overpowered. And well, shit take it from there, y'know. Chirst, it's a film - you got give it a spin.
Oct. 29, 2003, 3:09 a.m. CST
No surprise that this would suck the big dick
by hiperaktiv
RE was the biggest pile of shit i saw last year. PWSA has made a lot of crap -why on earth did they choose this hack to make a movie from my beloved franchises? Fuck FOX, the morons.
Oct. 29, 2003, 3:36 a.m. CST
Aliens versus Predator : a symptom?
by djtrauma
Dear fellow filmlovers, this "movie" symbolises everything that is wrong with the movie industry right now. EVERYTHING is sacrificed in the name of making a fast buck. Bad Boys II, 2 fast 2 furious, Star Wars prequels... As you can surmise from my alias, I actually quite enjoyed most part of Event Horizon. Anderson wasted my time with Soldier and Mortal Kombat but this is besides the point. This malaise isn't the fault of those directors. No, endeless boardmeetings with produces who rape our (childhood) memories just in the name of the dollar! Quit bashing the mediocre directors, guys, they are just the workingsluts for the bigwigs of the studios. Auteur directors like Lucas are of course responsible for the "situation" we have here with the prequels but he isn't doing it just to make money. Altough misguided, he bring *his* vision to the screen. It's just the bastards like Bruckheimer that ruin the business. That said, there are enough great movies out there that are worth your time. Kill Bill,LOTR, Whale Rider, Finding Nemo... so creativity abound. Just steer clear of the obvious cash-ins. Enjoy the movies people. There are lot of really good ones out there!!! Peace
Oct. 29, 2003, 3:39 a.m. CST
loads of ws
by rickycoogin
ws math: paul anderson is a load+his scripts are loads+his movies are loads+his projects cost loads+his films lose loads+he keeps getting loads of new offers=he took loads in the mouth from loaded studio loads. end of equation on this artless hack.
Oct. 29, 2003, 3:51 a.m. CST
"...Weyland Industries (as of this draft,
by Noisybast
"The Company": aka The Weyland-Yutaani Corporation. Presumably this movie is set before the merger?
Oct. 29, 2003, 4:12 a.m. CST
Alien vs Predator
by TheGaucho
Puh-leeeeeaaaase. This is gonna suck hairy monkey's ass. Think King Kong's ass. I don't even want to know anymore about it. God help me if I ever see an actual second of footage from this hopelessly steaming pile.
Oct. 29, 2003, 4:14 a.m. CST
ALIEN 5 IS COMING - Ripley Dies!
by jessicaturns
ALIEN 5 IS COMING! Moviehole says that Fox are in talks with Ridley Scott and Sigourney Weaver FINALLY. Here's hope it's done right...thing is, Ripley's going to die in it!! here's the full story : http://www.moviehole.net/news.php?newsid=2599
Oct. 29, 2003, 4:18 a.m. CST
by XiaoLi
I get the feeling that all the arcade / pc games of AvP would have a better story than this one. And why the fuck does everything have to happen in Antartica? Maybe the predators will be killed off by the Thing in the end, and any survivors will get vaporised by the Second Impact. And yes, the Alien movie ended with Aliens, although Alien 4 was somewhat redeemed by an arty-farty French director. I just can't stand Alien3. They killed Newt! FUCK YOU HOLLYWOOD!
Oct. 29, 2003, 4:19 a.m. CST
Jar-Jar vs. Howard the Duck
by 48k
Surely this is the face-off we really want to see. Come now George, make it so...
Oct. 29, 2003, 4:20 a.m. CST
Aliens & Predator vs PWSA
by Elliott Ness
In this script, a hack director is thrown into the wilderness of the jungle as a punishment for personally destroying several motion pictures with otherwise great potential. When the Predator realizes that he is better off working with the aliens rather then fighting them, it is only a question of who will find him first. Tagline: "His last film was the only one audiences truly enjoyed"
Oct. 29, 2003, 4:26 a.m. CST
Romero wouldn't have made Resident Evil any better.
by zerogundamx
"If I die, this whoke mansion will blow up!" -Wesker Sure, it had the characters but did nothing for the actual Resident Evil story. At least Anderson's version maintains some aspects..
Oct. 29, 2003, 4:49 a.m. CST
Not as bad as I thought
by DocPazuzu
Actually, most of the Dark Horse AvP comics have been amazing (even the Aliens vs Predator vs Terminator 4-issue). It's not the match-up itself that lacks potential. It will all come down to the handling and execution of the material. If the action stays in Antarctica there's no reason why continuity should be disrupted. The predators (according to the canon) have been visiting Earth for thousands of years on safari trips. In the comics they've also been breeding and using aliens in controlled environments as hunter training fodder. With that in mind, it's not so much of a stretch that the predators at one time or another have seeded aliens in remote places on the planet for hunting purposes. They could have been in the midst of one such safari "mission" when the natural cataclysm which befell the south pole occurred. .......... And I actually quite like Predator 2 and Event Horizon....AAAAAGGGHHHHH (bursts into flame)
Oct. 29, 2003, 5:39 a.m. CST
Dear God In Heaven FOX, Please Abort, It's Not to Late.
by The Founder
Why in the world would they give such a project with huge potential to a crappy director? How do some of these god awful guys get work in Hollywood. PA must have something on a big FOX exec.
Oct. 29, 2003, 6:46 a.m. CST
Event Horizon is a cult classic
by newkube
People I think along with Contact this was one of the most underated films of the 90's. This was Entertainment with a capital E, this was the scariest film I had seen since the Exorcist, and it was criminally underated...it's a pity he didn't build on that success though, may EH was just a one-off...
Oct. 29, 2003, 7:13 a.m. CST
Fucking Miramax! Wrong studio but same sentiment. What is wrong
by Silver_Joo
How come great directors such as Carpenter, Argento, Romero are all getting dumped on by the system? If a 50+ year old, experienced director is free, I would soon choose him over Paul 'Get over here!' Anderson. The way the studio treat these guys was epitiomised by the removal of Paul Schrader from The Exorcist. Baaad business.
Oct. 29, 2003, 7:13 a.m. CST
This actually sounds GOOD, you consider the script bad from what
by krims0nknite
Doesn't sound like a horrible movie to me. The pyramids under antartica is a little weird, but if they stick to the visuals it will be an awesome movie. Imagine a chained up alien queen sitting there laying eggs, while some humans just stand around wondering wtf. Then the predators come in and we have an all out battle.. what the hell is wrong with that? the script could have been horrible, but it sounds ok at the very least.
Oct. 29, 2003, 7:17 a.m. CST
Hardly surprising is it?
by nervous twitch
You know, i don't mind Event Horizon or Soldier and in all honesty i liked Resident Evil (but i hated the original games). These are popcorn films nothing more nothing less. Besides the best thing about Res. Evil was the soundtrack. In my opinion. Shit. Someones bound to call me a fag for that one.
Oct. 29, 2003, 7:44 a.m. CST
Bruce Campbell vs. Aliens vs. Predator
by Farging Bastige
All right you primitive screwheads, listen up! This would be the greatest movie of all time. With Ash and Ripley together, this movie writes itself! Somebody call Fox and Sam Raimi!
Oct. 29, 2003, 7:48 a.m. CST
Predator VS Leprechaun
by CuervoJones
That movie is needed.
Oct. 29, 2003, 8:59 a.m. CST
Wesley Snipes
by RenoNevada2000
Paul Verheiden wrote the first two (?) Dark Horse ALIEN miniseries, which I quite enjoyed. I know I read the first PREDATOR mini as well, but can't remember a thing from it, except one character was Duch's brother. I guess that should be an indicator of something.
Oct. 29, 2003, 9:09 a.m. CST
pedazo chunk
by jabberjocky
excuse me , i live in the uk and have absolutely no chance of attending this video store , is there any chance of removing this extremely irritating article ? i also dont care what gollum thinks of aicn either.
Oct. 29, 2003, 9:14 a.m. CST
by Jeditemple
<My attempt at Self-Hypnosis> Ok, this series ended with Aliens. There was never any Aliens 3 or Alien Resurrection. Those were just nightmares that Ripley had in hypersleep. Newt, Hicks, and Bishop are safe in their cryotubes, as the Sulaco returns to Earth. AvP is just another bad nightmare... @#$%!!! Why has Hollywood ruined this franchise???
Oct. 29, 2003, 9:23 a.m. CST
The Predator is the coolest alien ever
by Frank_Serpico
nuff said
Oct. 29, 2003, 9:49 a.m. CST
Uh, "The Company" from the Alien franchise is named "Weylan-Yuta
by faesforce
..I guess. But, I digress - fuck Paul "without the Thomas" Anderson.
Oct. 29, 2003, 9:49 a.m. CST
Sounds good to me.
by rev_skarekroe
Really. The comics were, frankly, a bunch of fanboy wanking if I remember correctly. Something about rival Predators fighting each other, a bunch of space marines, etc. etc. I LIKE the idea of taking the two franchises in a different direction entirely. I LIKE the idea of it being a prequel. I LIKE the Antarctic setting. The only thing that concerns me is making the characters 3-dimensional. sk
Oct. 29, 2003, 10 a.m. CST
by RawheadRex
AVP will send both franchises straight to the bottom, never to be touched again. Fox has been contemplating an AVP movie for more than 10 years and they finally do it with Anderson in charge?? Look on the brightside though, maybe Fox will sell the rights off for cheap and we can get that Leprechaun vs. Predator movie I saw mentioned above. Seriously though, Leprechaun vs. Predator would be awesome. Leprechaun: "STAY AWAY FROM ME FROSTED LUCKY CHARMS!!" Predator: ZAP!! Predator wins, flawless victory.
Oct. 29, 2003, 10:01 a.m. CST
by RawheadRex
AVP will send both franchises straight to the bottom, never to be touched again. Fox has been contemplating an AVP movie for more than 10 years and they finally do it with Anderson in charge?? Look on the brightside though, maybe Fox will sell the rights off for cheap and we can get that Leprechaun vs. Predator movie I saw mentioned above. Seriously though, Leprechaun vs. Predator would be awesome. Leprechaun: "STAY AWAY FROM ME FROSTED LUCKY CHARMS!!" Predator: ZAP!! Predator wins, flawless victory.
Oct. 29, 2003, 10:21 a.m. CST
And another thing
by rev_skarekroe
Isn't Ridley Scott ALREADY screwing with Alien continuity by re-inserting the scene where the Alien's victims turn into eggs? sk
Oct. 29, 2003, 10:21 a.m. CST
It it turns out half as good as that description, it's going to
by onefettinthehand
I think it sounds awesome! Other than the perceived continuity problem, which may not even exist, what exactly is the problem? "This film has tons of kick ass alien vs. Predator action....so it will suck!" What are you talking about? I'm MUCH more excited to see the film now than I was before! And all these fanboys that want a direct translation from a comic book just have to look at Daredevil to see why that doesn't work. This sounds like a very cinematic story that will rule all ass if done right. And since Resident Evil was pretty cool, there's no reason to think Paul can't do it. And who's to say aliens didn't run around Earth in present day? Wouldn't that explain WHY Weyland Yutani was after the alien in the first film......they had seen it before! Otherwise why would they risk everything to get it? this actually makes a lot of sense.
Oct. 29, 2003, 11:02 a.m. CST
really?? what a shock!
by ZO
this site ripping Anderson. Wow. A true shocker.
Oct. 29, 2003, 11:47 a.m. CST
onefettinthehand equals ...
by Darth Chode
... a complete dumbass. i really hope that guy (or gal, let's not exclude anyone) is being sarcastic. this sounds like the dumbest movie ever made (yes, dumber than cabin fever, daredevil or any other awful movie this site has raved about, leading me to waste $7). what they should do is bring back ripley, dutch and whatever the hell the name of the character danny glover played and make the movie a sequel to "Threesome."
Oct. 29, 2003, 11:59 a.m. CST
'Scuse me, I have to go fwow up now.
by WarDog
Criminy, you'd think the asshole who wrote this shit could do better than to rip off an episode of _Veritas: The Quest_, with that pyramid under the Antarctic ice schtick. But worse is that they ignore what was established before in each series. DAMN it, but how typical of Whorywood. Maybe they should just call it _Alien vs. Predator: Non Sequitur_, because that's basically all it is, a hodgepodge of elements from each that just don't follow the stories we all know and love (or love to hate in some cases.) God, I hope this fucking BOMBS. Maybe then Fox will undestand that it's time to quit.
Oct. 29, 2003, 11:59 a.m. CST
Look, ACIN bashing an Anderson project! No fucking way! Well t
by Tall_Boy
In fact, I think it sounds pretty fuckin cool. Gigantic alien queen comming out of the darkness is a big fuckin underground pyramid? Return of Lance Henricksen? Aliens vs. freakin Predators? I am SO there and AICN can suck my wang cuz all the bad buzz you give this flick doesn't matter FUCK ALL
Oct. 29, 2003, noon CST
"brutal alacrity"?
by Boris the Blade
Someone's getting his money's worth out of his thesaurus....To be honest, I just watched Resident Evil the other day, and I didn't think it was that terrible. And hell, it showed the freakin suits that zombie flicks could make money, so for that I'm grateful.
Oct. 29, 2003, 12:17 p.m. CST
How do we know that this isn't a fake script leaked to throw peo
by Russman
I'd do it if I knew there were ravanous fanboys waiting to tear me to pieces.
Oct. 29, 2003, 12:20 p.m. CST
He's not that bad.
by small boy
I don't understand the hatred for Paul Anderson, especially on this site. Event Horizon is great, Resident Evil is good (i also hjated the games, so i had low-ish expectations for it.), Mortal Kombat is shite, and Soldier could have been great but is bollocks. The man works with small budgets and truns out a good-ish looking film for the money. Where's the problem? Nobody forces any of you to watch Anderson's movies, so if you don't like him, ignore the films. Jesus, why must you all be such martyrs on this site? If i don't like a director/actor, i just do not watch their output. Lots of you just need something to complain about, you juvenile bitches. And Harry is the worst of the lot. Yeah, i look forward to seeing Ghost Town, too, so we can see what the super-genius comes up with.
Oct. 29, 2003, 12:41 p.m. CST
to all the whiners
by neckbone
LIGHTEN THE HELL UP!!! "it'll ruin the franchise" - as if the last 2 alien movies haven't sucked? what were you hoping for - a franchise like friday the 13th that burps out a POS once a year, every year? "it'll ruin the continuity" are you kidding me? first off, it doesn't matter. besides, we're talking about 2 sci-fi storylines that take place a couple hundred years apart anyway. i didn't hear anyone crying that ripley taking a 57 YEAR NAP ruined the continuity. "i can't believe (insert director, actor, best boy, grip, whatever here) is doing this film". as if it matters! give me the 50 mil or whatever and i'll direct this badboy. it's a simple equation - people want to see the 2 greatest sci-fi creatures ever go toe-to-toe. we're not talking shawshank here folks. just give me the 90~120 minutes of alien throw down.
Oct. 29, 2003, 1:54 p.m. CST
I don't know Beaks, it sounded interesting to me
by Lost Skeleton
...I mean its Aliens v. Predator...not Masterpiece theater. It might make for a reasonably good Sunday afternoon flick with my brain turned completly off but it doesn't sound like a diaster on a Gigli scale. Plus, I will see anything with that sexy Nubian Goddess Sanaa Latham. Also,speaking of turning your brain off, I have been having some weird dreams about Lucy Liu- not anything ponographic- just dreams of us just hanging out. What's up with that?
Oct. 29, 2003, 2:05 p.m. CST
The problem with this script is, the formula is the same as the
by SexyBeast
First off AvP is actually AvPvM. The M is for Marine. The problem is this script concentrates on the human characters. HELLO? the movie is called Alien vs Predator, not Sterotypical Human characters vs the Audience. The primary perspective should probably be the predator. The predator is an interesting species because its a mix of tribal customs and high tech weaponry....The way this script starts out, no one in the audience is going to be intrigued. We know the Alien life cycle we know how it hunts. The screenwriters should come at this like an Advanced Biology class....The Company really has to be the human element in the movie. It should be a Men in Black type deal.
Oct. 29, 2003, 3:23 p.m. CST
jaws vs chucky
by satansteve
for real?
Oct. 29, 2003, 3:23 p.m. CST
This Movie Will Suck Big Hairy Popcorn Balls
by elfstoned
Happy Halloween. The Alien franchise should have ended with the second. The only inspired part of the third was its setting and ending, plotwise it was just another dash and slasher. And, I was into the fourth until the birth of Ripley's Alien Baby - just effin' stupid. If they're going to do this thing - do it right - and that doesn't sound too promising.
Oct. 29, 2003, 3:24 p.m. CST
jaws vs chucky
by satansteve
Oct. 29, 2003, 3:55 p.m. CST
I liked Event Horizon AND Resident Evil you Co*ksuckers!
by iamarayya
What ever happened to "so I did not like the movie but every one has their own opinion". I have MY OWN opinion and fuck you who thinks that just because someone has a different opinion than you is stupid. Any one who think some one is snot as smart as them cause they do not think like them is an Asshole
Oct. 29, 2003, 3:56 p.m. CST
I'm glad to find a support group for us fans of RESIDENT EVIL. N
by FrankDrebin
The icebound temple sounds kind of Lovecraftian (minus the artistry, of course). But at least they're trying something bigger than the usual Vancouver shoot. (PS: I like Will Farrell, but seeing his creepily smiling face everywhere is starting to get to me. Anxious to see ELF though, if just for the technical stuff--that's supposedly forced perspective in the screnes with him and Bob Newhart, not FX. Also, Farrell is this week's interview over at The Onion AV Club.)
Oct. 29, 2003, 4:10 p.m. CST
Paul WS -- Please stop making movies.
by nightwatchman
If I disliked Anderson before, I actively loathe him now. This sounds like a typical Sci-Fi Channel original movie, but worse because it's destroying good franchises. If there is any justice in the universe WS will be directing direct-to-video dreck after this, where he belongs.
Or, better yet, flipping burgers.
Oct. 29, 2003, 4:13 p.m. CST
How does this hack keep getting hired?!
by mwhelan67
He has yet to prove himself as even a remotely decent director, his writing (amazingly) is even worse than his directing and somehow, he always gets projects with immense potential and sucks the life out of them! MEMO TO ALL STUDIOS: STOP HIRING PAUL W.S. ANDERSON!!! HE IS GOOD FILM CANCER!!!
Oct. 29, 2003, 4:13 p.m. CST
How does this hack keep getting hired?!
by mwhelan67
He has yet to prove himself as even a remotely decent director, his writing (amazingly) is even worse than his directing and somehow, he always gets projects with immense potential and sucks the life out of them! MEMO TO ALL STUDIOS: STOP HIRING PAUL W.S. ANDERSON!!! HE IS GOOD FILM CANCER!!!
Oct. 29, 2003, 4:19 p.m. CST
by Squaggle
I remember joining an online protest a few months back where a bunch of us wrote in exactly *why* we didn't want McG taking over the Superman series. While Anderson may not be the best of directors, they could've done worse really. What I think we should do is tell Fox why it is that the script will annoy us fanboys.... and explain that the paltry earnings of 'Resurrection' were only the diehard fans and no-one else. This is a fanboy movie; just like F vs J and is they screw up continuity as has been mentioned then they're in for a 'wrist web shooters' sized debacle... Anyone know the address we should be sending stuff to?
Oct. 29, 2003, 4:19 p.m. CST
i just wrote a better script
by fresh27
some group of space pirates or truckers or something are going through space, something goes wrong on their ship (not alien or predator related) and they a couple of their guys crash on an alien planet(i havent read the comics or the books so i dont know what it looks like, but it would be cool if it was just a big black hive, the entire planet is covered with some black porous hive material, like ants and bees.) anyway, the space pirates scan the planet for signs of life, but they see none (because the aliens are cold blooded or something). they land to save their guys but the planet is covered with these aliens. then some predator ship comes along to harvest a bunch of aliens, the space truckers stow away on the ship because thats the only way off the planet. hilarity ensues.
Oct. 29, 2003, 5:33 p.m. CST
Newsflash! Paul Anderson is NOT the Devil!!!!
by JoJoDogFaceBoy
I've never understood people's venom and hate-filled rants against Paul Anderson. EVENT HORIZON is a perfectly OK flick. Its got plenty of fun Hellraiser-sequel-style-gothic-horror-mood to it. So its far from great... big F'n deal. Its a classic compaired to Walter Hill's shit-filled SUPERNOVA (or whatever that damn thing ended up being called). Why not call W Hill a cocksucker instead? As far as SOLDIER is concerned... fuck Harry and his vendetta. Its no worse than any other bloated sci-fi actioner like NO ESCAPE, or WATERWORLD, or UNIVERSAL SOLDIER... or any of those other diverting TBS Superstation Wednesday Night Movies. Sorry to break it to you, but the script for SOLDIER was NOT a classic piece of literature. It was pure generic sci-fi-action. Just look at the fucking TITLE of the movie! Generic. As for RESIDENT EVIL, I've played each and every game multiple times and I thought the movie was a BLAST. Again, no classic, but who gives a shit. It had a super hot chick running around kicking the crap out of zombie dogs. That's good enough for me any day of the week. As for ALIEN VS PRED... its got to be better than ALIEN 4. Its a friggin VS movie. VS movies aren't supposed to be classics. They're not even supposed to be GOOD. They're just supposed to bring two franchises together and let them kick the shit out of eachother. The original FRANKENSTIEN is a classic. FRANKENSTIEN MEETS THE WOLFMAN is not a classic. But its still a hellofa lotta fun. Grow up and give Paul Anderson a break you whiny fucks. Harry's vendetta against the guy makes ZERO sense.
Oct. 29, 2003, 5:36 p.m. CST
You uncreatives (read: movie reviewers) better take a microscope
by Hellboy
By the way, he sun's out. Step into it. It's warmer than a computer monitor.
Oct. 29, 2003, 6:05 p.m. CST
Kill the franchise?
by ELGordo
What fucking franchise? There hasn't been a Predator film since the early early 90's and people have long given up on the Alien films which haven't had a new installment since 97. So who the fuck cares about these two already stone cold dead franchises? As much of a fan I am of Paul Anderson I have to say that this script sounds horrible. Please take the story of earth and at least have some connection to the other films. Also. I wonder what would happen if Harry and Paul would actually meet.
Oct. 29, 2003, 6:36 p.m. CST
Gee..I kinda liked Event Horizon...
by manwiththedogs
but now I understand what a poor, misguided, helpless fool I was! Thank you Beaks! By the by, Freedy vs Jason was awful. lol
Oct. 29, 2003, 6:42 p.m. CST
Strange civilizations under Antartica goes all the way back to H
by RenoNevada2000
Go read "At the Mountains of Madness" an infinitely better story than what this sounds like.
Oct. 29, 2003, 6:58 p.m. CST
Other Great Combos
by REDD
Snake Plissken Vs Jack Burton (only have to pay one actor!). Robocop Vs Terminator (wasn't that a Dark Horse comic?). Tango & Cash Vs Murtaugh & Riggs.
Oct. 29, 2003, 6:58 p.m. CST
Other Great Combos
by REDD
Snake Plissken Vs Jack Burton (only have to pay one actor!). Robocop Vs Terminator (wasn't that a Dark Horse comic?). Tango & Cash Vs Murtaugh & Riggs.
Oct. 29, 2003, 7:18 p.m. CST
Ya Dark Horse AvsO stories kicked ass
by DemonsDream
And this story line sucks ass. If they are going to do AvsP why not do it right and rejuvinate both franchises instead of sending them both ever further down the crapper!!!! Hasn't anyone from Fox read the Dark Horse comics. They must know there are MUCH better ideas already created that they can steal from.
Oct. 29, 2003, 8:06 p.m. CST
Mickey Mouse vs Tom & Jerry
by TheGaucho
Now that is a franchise we need... And PLEASE (pretty please with sugar on top) let it be directed by PWSA. It is the ONLY way to be sure it is gonna work.
Oct. 29, 2003, 8:07 p.m. CST
JAWS vs Chucky
by George Newman
This could be great: Chucky is a stowaway on some kids' boat and he tries to kill them. They jump overboard and JAWS eats them before Chucky can get 'em. Chucky swears "smile you son of a bitch" and dives into the water for one final showdown.
Oct. 29, 2003, 8:07 p.m. CST
JAWS vs Chucky
by George Newman
This could be great: Chucky is a stowaway on some kids' boat and he tries to kill them. They jump overboard and JAWS eats them before Chucky can get 'em. Chucky swears "smile you son of a bitch" and dives into the water for one final showdown.
Oct. 29, 2003, 8:08 p.m. CST
Aliens vs Predator : Deadliest of the Species
by aydam
They should just base the movie on the 12 part comic series Deadliest of the Species. It has everything that would make this movie great. A good script with interesting twists in the storyline, No Jurassic Park BS, Human Synths, Crazy AIs, Enhanced aliens (Predaliens / Praetorians). Corruption, Betrayal, Friendship it is all there. It is an epic in the AvP universe. Seriously, it would be a beautiful film. You would think that Studios would have figured it out by now. Rule number 1 is do NOT rewrite the continuity. Rule number 2 is do NOT rewrite the continuity.\ Rule number 3 is embrace the continuity. It is obviously what made the universe popular in the first place.
Oct. 29, 2003, 8:47 p.m. CST
The Predator should have a peg leg, the Alien should be painted
by Fred
Oct. 29, 2003, 9:03 p.m. CST
This movie sounds gay...
by tango fett
This is my first post, but who cares. Being an avid fan of the Alien "quadrilogy," I had hoped this movie would be cool. But when I read Paul Anderson was doing it, I was scared. Now my nightmares have come true. This sounds like a bad rehash of Jurassic Park, only with Aliens and Predators. I can't wait.
Oct. 29, 2003, 9:13 p.m. CST
Godzilla: "These were not good movies by any reasonable standard
by Scorpio
Bashing KING KONG VS. GODZILLA and DESTROY ALL MONSTERS, Beaks? I guess you've seen them in their original Japanese, of course. No? You haven't? Then shut the f*** up! I get so tired of Godzilla films being characterized by Americans as "entertaining junk". Perhaps if Americans would bother to learn more than one language, or learn to read subtitles, they might come to understand (and appreciate) that other cultures have a whole different way of presenting fantasy film. At least realize that these films were often butchered by US studios, not to mention the half-assed dubbing. Not even your precious FREDDY VS JASON has that excuse.
Oct. 29, 2003, 9:24 p.m. CST
W.S needs a leg cut off to teach him a lesson
by raizbert
iamarayya. How can you possibly ask people to respect your opinions when you cant even sting together a coherent sentence. Its complete intelligeble crap like your comment that makes me feel like my views carry more weight; its nothing to do with me being an asshole
Oct. 29, 2003, 9:35 p.m. CST
by tango fett
It'd be cool if they made Predator 3 (with Governor Arnie) and then Alien 5, which a previous guy came up with the same thing as me (almost anyway). Ok, Alien 3 and 4 were just dreams or alternate realitys, or whatever that Ripley goes through. An Alien egg got in the ship, courtesy of the Queen, and it hatches through Hicks and causes the ship to malfunction. This makes the cryo chambers open and Ripley and Newt (possibly replaced by a new actress) to get out. The first 20 minutes or so is them trying to find the Alien that came out of Hicks and they are being chased by it. They finally cause the ship to self destruct. The ship is blowing up around them, and they need to get to an escape pod. They reach it, and Ripley barely pilots it out as the ship blows up. She kinda has a quiet time with Newt, and she mourns Hicks, then she goes to set up the cryo chambers. They get in and then we see that in a really dark area of the ship, there's a single egg the Queen layed there when she was on board. We flash ahead to Earth, and Ripley and Newt get off and kinda just relax and hang out. Some workers in bio-suits come in and look around the ship. One guy finds the room with the egg and wakes it up. He is later found and carried to the hospital place. He wakes up from his coma and is almost immeadietly gets called down to the lower levels for service stuff. Once he gets down there, the Alien comes out--it's a Queen... I'll tell more later.
Oct. 29, 2003, 11:11 p.m. CST
AVP teaser trailer and featurette
by Ivan_Mtl
I just saw the teaser trailer for Aliens vs Predator (AVP) over at apple.com and I was quite surprised by how many story elements (complete with pre-production art) Paul W.S. Anderson revealed in the accompanying featurette. I must say that I was impressed with what I saw and heard. Of course, my expectations were somewhat low due to all of the negative criticism directed at Mr. Anderson by Harry and others on this site. Still, I do think that this was a no-brainer. Both the various comic book series and the video game were hits, and I suspect that this movie, regardless of its quality, will be as well. Let's give Mr. Anderson a break and see what he comes up with.
Oct. 29, 2003, 11:35 p.m. CST
You Could Combine The Concepts And You'd Have "Metroid" OR... Fr
by jollydwarf
Oct. 29, 2003, 11:36 p.m. CST
Teaser Trailer & Featurette Online.
by NJM
Oct. 29, 2003, 11:39 p.m. CST
Wow, Harry bashing Paul, surprise surprise!
by buckna
Not. Get over it Harry, your precious Romero movie would of been a travesty, his script had NOTHING TO DO with Resident Evil. He took the character names and then tried to ressurect Night of the Living Dead. At least Anderson and his crew were true to the games, which is why the movie turned out great and the sequel is on the way. Anderson is a great LOW-Budget/genre film director, he has great visuals and production/art design in every film. The weakness in his movies are always that the scripts are usually terrible! (And I emphasize terrible!) But despite that, he is able to elevate the movie from utter straight to video crap, to decent B-movie genre film that appeals to certain viewers. Get off your high horse Harry!
Oct. 29, 2003, 11:45 p.m. CST
Hold Yer Fucking Horses
by monkeyboyjunior
I'm no huge fan of Mr. Anderson's, but we should take this review with a grain of salt. After all, as was pointed out in several earlier posts, this 'critic' isn't exactly a brain surgeon himself given the fact that he isn't even aware that "the company" is, in fact, the Weyland-Yutani Corporation. I think the idea of Henriksen as the CEO is very cool casting in as much as it foreshadows the form factor of the Bishop android. And the issue about his health could also lead to the idea of cloning that was introduced in Alien:Ressurection. Perhaps the Henriksen character in Alien 3 is a clone of the Charles Weyland character in this script. All in all, I's have to say it actually sounds fairly intriguing.
Oct. 29, 2003, 11:54 p.m. CST
You Could Combine The Concepts And You'd Have "Metroid" OR... Fr
by jollydwarf
Oops, I didn't mean to hit "Enter". Fuckin' Merlot. Anyway, with this being PG-13 (it IS slated for that rating, right?), this is the kind of movie with concepts and set pieces that could be done much, much better with a different director and under the guise of the "Metroid" film that has supposedly be greenlit. You could even get a classy actress to play the Ripley angle up a bit. But either way, the fanboys, Juggalos, Ozzfest moshers, Comic Book Guys, and Frank T.J. Mackey seminar attendees will cave, thus making this piece of AICN shooting range debris a hit, thus pretty much guaranteeing at least one sequel. It makes the mind ache. How far down the road until Austin Powers and Undercover Brother vie for the affections of some silicon actress with a bad accent and a miniskirt?
Oct. 30, 2003, midnight CST
Look For The Bitchin' New Mudvayne Single With The Full Trailer!
by jollydwarf
Oct. 30, 2003, 12:03 a.m. CST
by DirtyDingusMcGee
I wonder if this teaser was quickly put together in a response to fanboys and reviews like this one. hmmmm??? I hope so
Oct. 30, 2003, 12:04 a.m. CST
Look For The Bitchin' New Mudvayne Single With The Full Trailer!
by jollydwarf
...isn't L.L. Cool Jay MATHEMATICALLY supposed to be in this? Just so he can see something slither down a dark, blue-lit hallway and mutter "What the fuck was that?" I got out my dry-erase board and did the necessary equations, solving for L.L. and...nothing. I tried D.M.X. No dice. And just to keep the P.oliC.e off my back, I tested the Seth Green and Mark Wahlberg theorems. Dead end. Although I ALMOST solved the equation for Bennifer. (Yes, I'm buzzed, that's why I've accidentally hit "Enter" TWICE in the last two attempts.)
Oct. 30, 2003, 12:18 a.m. CST
Coolness Factor
by andrewdrice
Oct. 30, 2003, 12:28 a.m. CST
Coolness Factor
by andrewdrice
The main things that make these movies cool are the futuristic marines, the acid eating through many layers of spaceship floor, big and/or many guns, and there being no earth involved. If Paul W. Anderson followes these few guidlines, The movie wont turn out too auful bad.
Oct. 30, 2003, 12:46 a.m. CST
Ghost Town directed by Paul Anderson!
by Bizcotti
That would be some funny shi*. For the 10th or so time over the years, I am here to defend Anderson against Harry's everpresent bashing. I agree with others that Soldier was his ONLY bad movie. I enjoyed the hell out of Event and thought Resident was fun and worth the price of admission. There are sooo many really bad directors and movies, why Harry always focuses on P.A. with such blind hate is a mystery to me.
Oct. 30, 2003, 2:39 a.m. CST
It's not worth complaining about anymore. I'm just hoping for a
by Psyclops
I wanted this film to be great, to be the first of the 'versus' movies to blow us all away but I'm certain that it's not going to happen. The teaser trailer is fucking amazing and it gives me hope but I'm almost positive that this will be nothing more than junk food for the mind. All I can hope for is that Paul Anderson will deliver a fun action spectacle a step or two above mediocrity. I'll see this regardless, I've been waiting too long for this battle to make it's way to big screen. Funny... I still can't believe they are finally making this.
Oct. 30, 2003, 4:24 a.m. CST
by Bong
I have to resort to this. FOX executives...FUCK YOU. Anderson you no talent loser fucking asshole...FUCK YOU You basically destroyed all hopes I had left in Hollywood. Die pigs die..I will never waste my money on movies again
Oct. 30, 2003, 4:59 a.m. CST
Smell that?
by DocPazuzu
It's a reverse backlash on Anderson. Good for him. I just watched the teaser, and I'm sorry -- it looked cool as hell. The good thing about knee-jerk naysayers in every single talkback is that you end up ignoring them and their opinions completely. Alien vs Predator.... I'm SO there.
Oct. 30, 2003, 5:33 a.m. CST
Direct links?
by DocPazuzu
Anyone have direct links to the teaser and featurette?
Oct. 30, 2003, 5:52 a.m. CST
aargh special k or real k
by T-Diggy
Oct. 30, 2003, 5:57 a.m. CST
This will suck
by TylerDurdenUK
With the potential for a film like this (even tho the last 2 alien films sucked, and we aint seen predator for over a decade), i cant believe they gave the project to a guy whose only ever gonna make straight to video shite! And the story, what the F**K is all that about !! Pyramids and alien queens underground??? WHERE THE HELL ARE THE MARINES !!! Man this film could be so kick ass awesome, i say scrap this project and give it to someone who wants to make a decent movie!! By the way this is my first post !!! Kill Bill rocks !!
Oct. 30, 2003, 6:17 a.m. CST
Oh dear
by Heleno
When the character description is a)entirely derivative and b) reminds one of nothing so much as The Core, that's a bad start.
Oct. 30, 2003, 7:27 a.m. CST
As it stands now...
by radio1_mike
I liked Event Horizon. I thought Resident Evil was okay, nothing to write home about-- except the ending... But I think AvP would be cool, if only you keep the humans as the weakest link... Or at the very least, show them at their most vicious. Aliens have no culture, they are just scary because of their biology. Predators, we nothing of their culture (from audience-sense), and they are frightening because of their technology. I wanna see a movie where the full human force multiple is applied. People are only weaker in these movies because they are essentially isolated. Make the Aliens/Predators isolated. They are more powerful but horribly outnumbered. (((Aliens vs. Predators) vs. (Chinese Red Army in Antartic)) vs. (American Cruise Missiles)) Now- that'd be a movie!
Oct. 30, 2003, 8:53 a.m. CST
That teaser trailer was great.
by Psyclops
Christ, I got the chills watching that on the big screen. I couldn't wipe the smile off my face for a good ten minutes after I saw it (until I remembered who was directing it). Fuck... so much potential, I'm still holding out hope.
Oct. 30, 2003, 9:09 a.m. CST
How I would do it...
by Seth_Isurus
Okay, so you have Dutch from the first Predator film, living out his life as a seedy, alcholic war vet. Every so often, a Predator tries to bag his ass because he's so hard to kill (I shamelessly stole this from a poster above). Anyway, a predator finally gets the drop on him and corners him at gunpoint. Instead of blowing him away straight away, he decides to gloat a bit, talking in English language about how humans are the second most dangerous game animals in the world. Aliens are the first. Cue an action story, narrated in creepy predator voice, about a hunting party that landed on the alien home planet. It'd rock! Admit it! At the end of the movie, Dutch king hits the Predator as its finishing up its tale, and goes all commando on its ass with a butcher knife. Cue credits. Huzzah!
Oct. 30, 2003, 10:37 a.m. CST
Paul Anderson not that bad!
by exalian
Hey! Would you guys please stop hating this guy so much! This guy mostly has a low budget, but still he manage to make cool looking movies. Event Horizon was is on of my favorites (and no, I don
Oct. 30, 2003, 10:38 a.m. CST
by DocPazuzu
Unfortunately the whole kill Dutch scenario just doesn't work out. If nothing else, the Predators live by a code of honor. They'd never come for Dutch because he bested a Predator and earned their respect as a hunter. Same goes for Harrigan in P2. At the end, the Predators let him go because they admired him. Not only that, they gave him a "trophy" of sorts. At the end of the first AvP comic series, the last surviving human and the Predators became allies in the bug hunt because of mutual warrior respect. And on a personal note, I cringe at the very idea of a film narrated by a Predator.
Oct. 30, 2003, 6:07 p.m. CST
A vs P: sounds like a steaming pile of half-assed horseshit.
by ComicBookGeek77
This is my virgin post by the way. I think afterwards I'll have a latte and a cigarette. This movie, for lack of a better word, I hope has decent special effects. Not like it's redemption in any way, but it might rationalize the 2.25 I shell out at Hollywood Video when I RENT it. "A Viking Funeral," LMAO. Nice way to phrase it. By the way, Resident Evil blew too. Super Mario Bros was more true to the original game than that moronic piece of cookbook kitsch.
Oct. 30, 2003, 6:29 p.m. CST
I liked Event Horizon and Mortal Kombat
by Avon
but I hate everything else he's done before or since with a passion.
Oct. 30, 2003, 7:10 p.m. CST
by SlammerUK
Fuck me guys, JoJo is the only other fucker on here talking SENSE! Anderson did a great job on Res Evil, ITS A MOVIE ABOUT A GAME, not a Romero wannabe zombie movie! Most of you turds probably havent even played the game! And as for AVP, bring it on, that script sounds awesome, we're going to see Preds ripping off Alien heads, spearing two or three together like a frikkin shish kebab, we're going to see metal nets, shoulder lasers, discs and self destructs! Some of you lame arses even go and compare this script with other "hidden civilisations in the arctic" movies, you doltz, there can be MORE than one movie/book/play of the same genre you narrow minded fuckwits. And FUCK DUTCH, he should have died, at least Danny Glover had the balls to fight those Preds head on instead of resorting to shitty traps. "Lions, Tigers, Bears... Oh my!" (AND YES, I KNOW ITS A WIZARD OF OZ RIP YOU KNOBS!)
Oct. 30, 2003, 8:17 p.m. CST
JAWS vs CHUCKY
by Mac Styran
Please, tell me this is a lame joke. Right? RIGHT?????
Oct. 30, 2003, 8:24 p.m. CST
Critters vs. Tremors
by sla-tor
ya heard!
Oct. 30, 2003, 8:25 p.m. CST
by paulcapeceismad
AVP might be awesome if it opens in prehistoric antartica w/ dinosaurs being victims of a planted alien hunt via predators, cut to present day w/ someone besides weyland discovering the long lost predator colony and uncovering frozen alien eggs, have the predators arrive post hive establishment to capture the new queen and reclaim their pets after a gory battle. keep it simple and sensible. the aztec stuff and weyland yutani references seem distracting and pointless, thats two separate storylines altogether. If you see this Mr. Anderson please contact me and we can save this puppy before it's too late.
Oct. 30, 2003, 8:33 p.m. CST
by JoNuggs
Most of the AvP comics were done well. The first series didn't even involve the Colonial Marines, it took place on a remote planet. I liked Event Horizon, didn't like Resident Evil, so he's 1 for 1 by my standards. I will admit that a perfect AvP movie should involved the colonial marines, though. That would just amount to some sick action sequences. The Aliens vs. Predator vs. Terminator books were okay, the best thing about them is that they finally kill Ripley. When will they learn that they just need to kill her off?
Oct. 30, 2003, 9:50 p.m. CST
Why modern day?
by Lobanhaki
I think Paul Anderson is a halfway decent director in terms of visuals, but his scripts and story ideas do tend to be bad. As for what I've heard of the plot, I think Stargate did the Alien cultural intervention better. It sounds nices, but it substitutes pseudo-science for genuine creativity. As for the Predators, I don't think the concepts going to work unless each one has its own personality. And I also think the continuity issue is going to be a sizable problem.
Oct. 30, 2003, 9:55 p.m. CST
by Seth_Isurus
Okay, so its Dutch's son then. It gives the predator a good loophole out of its code of honor, and would make for a greatly prized trophy. Sort of like if Ahab's ancestor harpooned the son of the white whale from Moby Dick. And what's wrong with a predator narrating? They're intelligent aliens who can mimick English when they want to. (Jesus. After that last sentence I think my virginity just returned.) But anyway, its better than pyrimids-under-the-antarctic rubbish. And aren't Predators supposed to avoid the cold? They can't see properly because of their infra-red heat vision. (Yep, definately a virgin again.)
Oct. 30, 2003, 10:58 p.m. CST
Okay, 4 sucked, but certainly not 3...
by FlashFreeze
Granted, Ripley getting gangbanged by aliens is a scosh over the top. Maybe way over the top. Okay, okay, unbelievably depressingly stupid. Thus, Resurrection should be burned. ... BUT ... The interaction between Aliens and Alien3 is brilliant in the fact that it was COMPLETELY unexpected and original. It immediately upsets the viewer; makes you feel bad, violated, ALIENATED. And throughout the rest of the film, this feeling is beautifully reflected in Riply's state of affairs. The sets were gorgeous, they had weight and depth, and the cinematography did well to incorporate the eerie and abandoned feel. Where the first film was a classically paced horror movie and the second an action movie, the third was something in between; a well-crafted and integral part of a larger story. It's not a crescendo; it's a dark farewell to a dark theme. That may have pissed off people who easily get uncomfortable when something twists a genre, but Alien3 deserves its due respect. And why the hell SHOULDN'T Alien Vs Predator be an awesome movie? Why doesn't it deserve to be treated with dignity? It's not that far fetched! Certainly not in the confines of the universes of each respective franchise. Fox has done its fan base a terrible disservice by allowing Paul WS Anderson to rape these juicy characters for the benefit of the lowest common denominator/highest likelihood return on investment. Anderson's films appeal to retarded monkeys because they wallow in clich
Oct. 30, 2003, 11:16 p.m. CST
Continuity problems?... Not really.
by Ivan_Mtl
While many of you seem to think that the AVP storyline outlined by Paul W.S. Anderson in the featurette might pose some continuity problems with their respective characters' established history (at least as it pertains to the Alien and Predator films), I really don't see it being an issue. For one, the space jockey's ship in the original Alien movie could well have been a cargo ship delivering the Alien eggs to the Predator planet as part of some 'commercial trade' between the two species. Of course, the two species could also have been involved in a war and these were the 'biological weapons' developed by the space jockey's race. Mr. Anderson also mentions that the predators may have been responsible for the disappearance of many lost civilizations on earth when their alien hunts went awry and they were forced to detonate their self-destruct mechanisms. It would make complete sense if Lance Henrickson's character from the future Weyland-Yutani corporation acquired 'star maps' of the aliens location via hieroglyphics found on the inside of the mysterious pyramids. This would lead me to believe that the pyramid and all traces of the aliens existence would be destroyed at the end of AVP. The "company" would eventually decipher the information contained in the hieroglyphics and would send many of its mining vessels (the Nostromo) out into those regions of space. As for people wanting to see Marines battling both species, Mr. Anderson clearly states that their are soldiers in the film because nobody wants to see just scientists caught in the middle of the action. I wish Paul W.S. Anderson all the best and I hope his love for the characters shines through in his work.
Oct. 30, 2003, 11:27 p.m. CST
suck suck suck
by demodchan
So this was the guy responsible for naming a movie "Event Horizon" and it had nothing to do with "Heechee", an abandoned alien space-station, or hyperspacing ships that could span the galaxy (remember the ship really didn't work), or computer psych therapists. Apparently this guy isn't very clueful. I didn't see any trailers, didn't have a chance to read reviews, and was so pissed off as I sat through the damn thing hoping for _something_ that would justify the use of the astrophysics term "event horizon". Only to deal with the same kind of pseudo-psychology crap "The Sphere" beat us over the head with!? There's a special place in in the nine hells for people who make a movie like this. A place populated by wickedly clever female demons who look like Harry, armed with rubber phalluses as thick as your thigh in a landscape sprinkled with vats of bubbling citric-pumice lubricant and impalement devices. I hope the bastard squeals louder than the rest. He owes us that much. As for the treatment of Aliens Vs. Predator...wtf do we expect? Until Square-Enix-whatever-soft perfects it's faux human actor tech and makes anything possible hollywood grassphuckers are going to bone every franchise that comes along. Just like Fox/UPN seem to destroy every Sci-Fi production they touch. Harry-Bitch phallic wielding demonesses...sod them all!!!
Oct. 30, 2003, 11:40 p.m. CST
As the future lover of Milla Jovovich...
by MyGlockYourMouth
I say LET ME, MyGlockYourMouth, direct the damn thing. My treatment: 1. Battle Royale: Alien teams with Predator; Freddie with Chuckie; Batman with Superman; Bill the Butcher with Oren Ishii. 2. Alien wins burly brawl; but only because Butcher and Ishii elope after first and second round wins, go off to slice up Cameron Diaz for ruining Gangs of New York and Charlies Angels: Full Throttle. 3. Alien seeks revenge from Dutch. Wins runoff for California Governor after personally capturing Sadaam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden and Rush Limbaugh and "skeeening dem alif." 4. Alien vectors vanguard of alien battlefleet to Playboy Mansion. Balance is restored. Cubs win World Series; Christopher Reeves walks and I marry the mad Russian Milla Jovovich. Happy ending...Like TITANIC...plants are saved, Laroche is a hero! Everybody wins!
Oct. 30, 2003, 11:49 p.m. CST
"The Company" is missing?
by SG7
Isn't The Company from the Alien-verse Weyland-Utanior some such? NEver mid. This will still suck.
Oct. 31, 2003, 12:46 a.m. CST
Paul Anderson, people at Fox, I and many others THANK YOU (since
by Stiffer
Listen, I love Alien and I love Predator...I have been wanting this movie to happen for a long time. And I ask you WHAT THE FUCK IS THE PROBLEM WITH IT? The poster looks amazing, the teaser looks awsome and Paul Andersons description and design work for the film look so cool. What the fuck do you homos want? A fucking in depth love story/murder mystery/buttfuck queer movie with different "levels"...NO you're getting what Paul Anderson said;Aliens, Predators, cool weapons cool setting, cool machine gun toting military troops and scientists...granted Soldier kinda blew but his other movies were good, and since Paul Anderson is a big fan of both of these characters I think everyone should cut him a break, and go suck a goat cock...honestly, this movie will be amazing, and you'll all eat shit when it comes out and regret ever saying anything bad about it!
Oct. 31, 2003, 12:59 a.m. CST
by Regis Travolta
It should just be populated with Aliens and Predators. Make it like a documentary that was filmed amidst an actual battle between the two species. Of course since that really would be super cool it can't happen, the studio thinks we need people for the audience to relate to as victims and cheer for as heroes.
Oct. 31, 2003, 4:45 a.m. CST
No humans in the movie? Not a bad idea.
by Gere's AssGerbil
That way they could make it like Mel Gibson's the Passion, but instead of using ancient Aramaic they just have a bunch of squaks, grunts, and screeches that they pass off as alien language. No subtitles. Who needs 'em? We don't care what they're saying just so long as they're pounding the living shit out of each other. Instant classic.
Oct. 31, 2003, 7:13 a.m. CST
I'm DOWN with this,baby!
by DustyBooze
Completely agreeing... this movie still can kick ass and the trailer looks fucking promising to me! Everybody whining at this stage is a sukka!
Oct. 31, 2003, 7:24 a.m. CST
Im a movie director and Im PISSED OFF
by Mr Ten
Where the hell is that story coming from? I personally think that an Aliens vs Predators movie could be very very good. These 2 creatures hasnt been used to their full potential in the previous movies. We can expand on Predators technology and way of living, we can also finally see the home planet of the aliens, etc... Theres so many good things to build around this, but what we'll see from Mr Anderson will be a bad teen movie only worth for costumes of the beasts (hopefully some people are still doing great job) The Aliens vs Predators project was freezed for 10 years, because "they needed the good idea"... and now they do this crap? I would have loved to do this movie. I had so many ideas for it...
Oct. 31, 2003, 9:38 a.m. CST
by provider84
Oct. 31, 2003, 4:51 p.m. CST
No Humans
by ComicBookGeek77
Great Idea. Like one of those documentaries on Discovery w/ the CGI Dinosaurs. Just pure predation ON the Alien Homeworld. Fucking Predator Gadgetry, and bure balls out savage, cold blooded Alien cruelty. Humans suck anyways. And the Comic sucked too.
Oct. 31, 2003, 8:16 p.m. CST
RESIDENT EVIL is the best film ever adapted from a video game
by AlwaysThere
That statement invalidates anything you say about game to movie adaptations.
Oct. 31, 2003, 10:03 p.m. CST
Whew, what a stinker
by critical_theory
Man,I actually thought all of the Alien movies were alright, 1 and 2 being the best of the lot, and both Predator flicks were alright, but this... wow, it just looks bad. I'll skip this one till it's a rental, off of the new releases shelf. Listening to PA talk about this film, it just killed it for me. Of all the missed oppertunities that they've handed this guy... this is the King of 'em. Resident Evil was barely watchable, but could have been so good. Now this. What ever were they thinking, handing over a cash cow like this to someone who will nail the lid shut on both franchises, creating disgruntled fans, a great opening weekend, and then tanking on week 2 and beyond. Crikey.
Nov. 1, 2003, 12:10 a.m. CST
They Must Live in There Own World
by Black_Pheonix74
I (like most people on this board)have read the Dark Horse graphic novel and thought to myself that (at the time) that it was a great story but there would be no way that studios would take a chance on (in their words) a "comic book" that has only a small fan base. Now in the new era of computers where the seemingly impossible can be done(i.e. an agent from the Matrix smashing in the hood of a car during a high speed chase or Gandalph the Grey battling a dragon while decending toward molten lava)word via the internet & quicktime.com, get my hopes up and finally gives me a taste of what to expect and quite honestly I it really left a funny taste in my mouth as if I ate some of ....ummm what's that french dish .... ummm oh yeah! BULLLSHIT!!!!! You would think after the success of Spider Man which followed his origns to the "T" that Hollywood would wise up and give Dark Horse a chance (they did so well with Barb Wire and if it wasn't for Jim Carrey The Mask would have flopped).But nooo they just had to make their own story would be more marketable (more afffordable). So in short this would be the first time that revolting against a movie before it comes out
Nov. 1, 2003, 1:53 a.m. CST
I hope all you asshats choke on your own bile that's foaming at
by Tall_Boy
shut up and stock sucking Harry's wang, motherbitches.
Nov. 1, 2003, 2:26 a.m. CST
Sanity Check
by Evil Muffin
Mr. Anderson is a good choice to direct this film. Mr. Cameron or Mr. R. Scott were the obvious first choices for this project but both have moved on to projects that compete for Oscars rather than fanboy ejaculations. Mr. Anderson has been honing his craft well and has made some fine films with scripts and budgets that were not easy to work with. He's not afraid to show violence or gore and his sets are usually excellent which this film will also require. He's also a big fan of both franchises so I believe he'll treat these characters with the respect they deserve. He's the right man for the job; the only problem is again he's been given a script that defies logic. Pyramids under the Antarctic ice? This sounds silly to me but the suits in Hollywood never let a silly idea stop them from trying to make a movie. The potential is there for this to be a fantastic film franchise in it's own right. Who wouldn't want to see the Predator's home world or learn about the history of the Aliens just for starters? Do I even have to mention being curious about Predator females? Unfortunately we're going to be given pyramids under ice instead. It's a shame; I just hope Mr. Anderson can produce a diamond out of the lump of coal he's been given to work with.
Nov. 1, 2003, 3 a.m. CST
Stop Production Now!
by Alien fan
I hope the script BEAKS reviewed is really not being used...it sounds like a worthless pile of steaming poo..cant those greedy pudds over a fox realize they are just destroying their own studios great works? I am a huge fan of the first two ALIEN films, and predator was ok if you go for rambo nonsense. What happened to all the good visionaries who used to work in hollywood and why cant they dream up new, challenging sci-fi? Rather, they're going to feed us this totally stupid script that should have been called ALIEN 5: THE STUDIO HEADS GOT BILLS TO PAY AND WHORES TO BANG. This movie, if it is released, will definitely sink both franchises once and for all. And for no reason. Why not unravel the mystery of the Aliens' home planet and their origins? Why not develop new types of characters that would exist in the far future of the original movies? Androids, space miners, advanced technology...have you people at FOX even seen the original Alien? You mean to tell me there were Facehuggers and a Queen on Earth all this time? And WTF is an environmentalist doing in a sci-fi movie anyway!!!??? Boy, you guys really BLEW IT...and the movie has JUST STARTED PRODUCTION. Hey, I have an idea (since you're obviously looking to top your Alien 4 disaster) why not bring in Will Smith? I hear he's going to ruin one of Asimov's classics in the near future, and then you'll be in the same league!! This script sounds like a pile of SH*T, and come August 2004, the general public will prove me right.
Nov. 1, 2003, 4:02 a.m. CST
Event Horizon is alot of things, but...
by mwhelan67
"great" and "cult classic" are not among them, here's one - further proof that Anderson should go back to a job he's better suited for like , I don't know, being a janitor, or a garbage man... you know what nevermind, he'd screw that up too.
Nov. 1, 2003, 5:02 a.m. CST
why not take a chance instead ...
by KJ/KeyserSoze
... and get Sandy Collora instead ? Sandy who ? http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/ He's done wonders here. Hey, if Paul Schrader coudl be fired deep into post, why not P.W.S. Andersen early in pre ? My 2 cents
Nov. 1, 2003, 10:02 a.m. CST
Oh you don't get it do you ...
by taxman2001
Think about it. The Aliens will die on Earth (either in AVP or AVP2) before "The Company" can get their hands on them for their research. Therefore "The Company" sends out a ship to find more Aliens. The ship being teh Nostromo and there you have perfect continuality. And to all you nay-sayers out there EVENT HORIZON ruled as did SOLDIER.
Nov. 1, 2003, 1:06 p.m. CST
If I may point out...
by The Midget_King
Look at how many movies had "awesome" trailers, and turned out to be a steaming pile of monkey shit. Except for Gigli. Wait a minute...WHO THE FUCK SAID THAT!?!?-over and out
Nov. 1, 2003, 1:15 p.m. CST
WHy are we getting a prequel instead of a sequel? Continuity is
by Rcamacho2278
The whole point of the aliens films was to NOT let the aliens get to earth, where they will have plenty of bodies to transform. stupid fucken movie, I believe someone asked this before, HOW does this hack continue to get work with stupid fucken movies like soldier, event horizon and resident evil???
Nov. 1, 2003, 2:34 p.m. CST
oh god
by TentacleV
You know what REALLY makes me sad, is that I read somewhere like a year ago that James Cameron had proposed a script for Aliens vs Predator, and wanted to direct it. But somebody (very intelligent) decided that this movie doesn't belong in the hands of a god among directors. Hey, well, everyone take comfort in the fact that this could have been an amazing movie. If you want my opinion, the only people who should be allowed to do Aliens movies are Ridley Scott and James Cameron. Congress should add that to the constitution.
Nov. 1, 2003, 3:52 p.m. CST
I still like Event Horizon, and as for RE
by Halloween68
Event Horizon was at least entertaining. It definitely had its creepy moments. It was very Clive Barker. 'Nothing wrong with that. I think its pretty much the only bright spot in Anderson's career so far. RE is, I'll give Beeks this, mediocre at best. Music and editing barely scratch the surface. If Romero could have taken a swing at it, it would have ruled so much ass. First things that should have been cleaned up is it should have stuck more closely to the story of the game. They should have kept the first movie in that crazy mansion and in the passages beneath the mansion. Racoon city and the huge science complex doesn't happen until later. Give us time to get to know the characters, get to know the environment. My biggest disappointment in the film was the use of CGI zombie effects. What a waste. Has Anderson ever watched a zombie film? The funnest parts of zombie films are the dripping gore, the ooze, the violent tearing of flesh, crunching bone. You get none of that with CGI. It's like comparing diamond to plexiglass. And the sad thing is, it probably would have been cheaper to hire Tom Savini than to generate those crappy computer effects. I also missed the spiders (the baby spiders were a great idea too).
Nov. 1, 2003, 5:20 p.m. CST
aliens vs predator
by Aaronj2004
i think it's ridiculus why anyone would try to make a 5th alien movie they are already have issued this director's cut of alien in which is grosser than it's first version see, there's a history of ripley chasing that dumb alien and under the theory that if ripley had did this shotgun scene instead of being attacked by the queen, that would be funny and it really doesn't make sense why that the predator would help in the fifth movie, if he did some sort of comedy act where he beated up the queen alien to help ripley , that would be funny and beautiful, but as for the rest of the story, it revolves around ripley taking out the queen alien because the fact is, the queen alien is a T-Y-R-A-N-T and so, my theory is, that if the predator helped ripley instead of letting the predator and the alien beat each other up then that would be rather convincing for the 5th movie
I completely agree with Regis Travolta no humans in AvP. It would be cool if the Predators visited an Alien infested planet. No humans to screw it up.
Nov. 1, 2003, 5:58 p.m. CST
no humans?
by yourfaith
you need humans in the mnovie, otherwise no "people" will go see it. "people" like emotional involvement with characters they can identify with!! which is why resident evil wasn't so bad. i can sure identify with milla. mmmmmm.... milla.
Nov. 1, 2003, 6:20 p.m. CST
by Psyclops
What the hell are you smoking?
Nov. 1, 2003, 6:47 p.m. CST
I'll go see it...
by Leopardghost
...but damn, it's really lame to put this in a contemporary setting. Sounds a lot like "The Thing" to me. Strange aliens in the arctic, mayhem, blah blah. Everyone knows the coolest thing about this premise are the Colonial Marines! "Express elevator to hell, goin' down!" Bill Paxson should have his own Alien movie.
Nov. 1, 2003, 7:34 p.m. CST
Firstly "Creepy Thin Man" blow it out your mucus filled arsehole
by Stiffer
However I agree with you that the NEWBORN looked shitty, the aliens in that movie did not, they were cool, and that movie was cool. Secondly I KNOW that Anderson has respect for the two properties and come next summer you and all the other naysayers will choke on a big fat hairy sweaty pair of fucking BALLS!!!
Nov. 1, 2003, 8:07 p.m. CST
Britney Spears Vs Christina Aguilera Vs.Olsen Twins Vs.Hilary Du
by mbaker
Battle of the bimbos!
Nov. 1, 2003, 8:49 p.m. CST
the WHOLE theater laughed at this trailer
by ScreamingPenis
I saw Alien in the theater today and even though the crowd was only about 100 people -- no one could contain their laughter when the AVP preview finshed playing. This movie is a f**king joke.
Nov. 1, 2003, 9:35 p.m. CST
Why don't they base it on the original graphic novel?
by mentazm
I mean the one that came out around 1990 - I've got it in storage but if I remember rightly the story was something along the lines of... Outpost Colony Planet. Alien pod arrives, plants eggs, facehuggers attack themselves to local animals. Predators arrive. We learn the Predator's themselves sent the alien pod first as they want to do a bit of hunting. Then a Aliens v's Predators battle takes place with the colonists stuck in the middle, and ultimately siding with the Predators until one of them is accepted as an "honory predator", much like Glover in P2. Okay, it sounds rubbish, but believe me, it WAS and still IS a really good story. Why not just adapt that instead of writing a whole pile of crap? Oh, and hello everyone btw. I'm new here. I'm a projectionist at a major UK cinema and get to see a lot of films :)
Nov. 1, 2003, 10:01 p.m. CST
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
by DocPazuzu
Everyone who says "the whole theater laughed at the teaser" is a lying troglodyte. Jesus, talk about poor self-esteem.... Those are the same people who lied in high school about "having a girlfriend in Canada" that they only saw on the holidays.
Nov. 1, 2003, 11:23 p.m. CST
by TomVee
The man has a truly terrible track record. This has the makings of another HULK. It is unlikely to draw the interest that FREDDY V. JASON did. No one really are about Predator and Alien has outlived its welcome. EVENT HORIZON was terrific until it entered the satanic zone. Then the movie went to hell, literally. SOLDIER was even more dismal. It never really came to life. My youngest loves RESIDENT EVIL, but I think we adults can agree it is only partly successful.
Nov. 2, 2003, 1:05 a.m. CST
Why Harry Doesn't Like Anderson
by zerofactor
It's so obvious... Harry propably wanted to get on the set of Mortal Kombat or Soldier and if he did would love Anderson like Rodrigez or Romero. But, Anderson propably sent him packing, not knowing or caring about some fanboy site. Therfore Harry holds a grudge, even though Anderson has gotten better. Event Horizon has a growing fanbase, and Resident Evil gets a part II. Not bad for a director who never gets a mind blowing budget.
Nov. 2, 2003, 10:03 a.m. CST
Fantasy casting... Kurt Wimmer
by turk128
He did Equilibrium with a 20 mil budget, just imagine what he can do with a 50 mil budget for AvP. Heck, just imagine how kickass the action would be if he directed it; mmm... Predator going medieval on Aliens ass. Anderson has '70s B-movie sensibilities when it comes to action and the scope of a TV director.
Nov. 2, 2003, 4:38 p.m. CST
Colonel Sanders vs. General Tao
by Blinky Blinky
In a world where chickens have rebelled...
Nov. 2, 2003, 5:18 p.m. CST
by DukeTheBastard
.....and that is the damn truth. WILL SOMEONE KILLS THIS FUCKING HACK OF A DIRECTOR SO WE CAN BE ASSURED THAT HE'LL BUTCHER NO MORE VIDEOGAMES-MOVIES? FUCK PAUL ANDERSON. FUCKING DIE YOU CUNT!!!!!!!!
Nov. 2, 2003, 5:39 p.m. CST
The Proud owner of all Paul W.S. Anderson films on DVD
by MrGortner
Who gives a shit who directs AvS. All you comic book geek fanboys should band together and write a petition to FOX and complain. To be honest I like all Paul W.S. Anderson films Mortal Kombat, Soldier, Event Horizon and Resident Evil.
Nov. 2, 2003, 7:18 p.m. CST
Event Horizon
by kai028
may be the most irritating film I have ever seen. It seemed that Anderson was actively trying to drive me out of the theater. Not only was it dull and derivative, but the color schemes and soundtrack were like fingernails on a blackboard to me. So I am NOT looking forward to Alien vs. Predator.
Nov. 2, 2003, 7:19 p.m. CST
Dead Cambodians this time...do they get to wear Kato masks?/Holl
by watashiwadare
Nov. 2, 2003, 9:58 p.m. CST
um ANDERSON sucks a dick
by Fulminant
I mean i looked forward to Resident Evil, but after seeing it i was like "WTF IS THIS CRAPPY SHIT", and then Soldier and all his crap, holy fuck, this guy fucking sucks, I bet that motherfucker faggot sucked alot of Hollywood Homo's dick's to get that JOB, fucking piece of shit bitch, I 'd fuckign shoot the bitch, a fucking RETARDED 11 year old can direct a better movie, talk about a script, holy shit my Friends SON who is 8 years old can write better than that fuck.
Nov. 2, 2003, 10:45 p.m. CST
I Assume Since The Founder Of The Company Had A Run With The Ali
by The Founder
I just don't see why this movie is taking place pre Alien and thus phucking with continuity. I guess Anderson is trying to tie both properties together. In the 2nd Predator we clearly see an Alien skull in the hunter's vessel, and since in the 1st Alien film it looks as if the Company was aware of the downed vessel and sent the closet mining ship to gather a speciman. So I guess with this Weiland character and who I assume is the the founder of the company, he knows of their existence and wants them becuase they are more animalistic and the easiest to collect. It's evident that Predator's can't be collected by humans, because of their technological superiority and their intelligence, so he's going for the one he can profit off of, and his knowledge passed down through the Company. I don't know what FOX is thinking, and a 50 million budget don't sound promising for this type of project. I think Camron would have done it justice. Oh well we're stuck, and sadly we can complain all we want, but most of us on this site will see it, so FOX has already counted our money.
Nov. 2, 2003, 11:06 p.m. CST
by Fulminant
no way am i gonna go to theaters to see it, more likely rent it and burn it.
Nov. 3, 2003, 2:06 a.m. CST
Rule of Thumb
by DJTemplar
In order for a series to maintain any credibility it must stop at 3.If Cinematic history has taught us anythng its put the script down and walk away. A Perfect example to this rule is Star Wars. Did we really need Lucas to go and destroy his legacy and waste alot of our time in the process. What if Coppola decided to give Godfather another go or if Peter Jackson decided the world needs more middle earth. I try to forget there ever was an Alien 4 oh god do I try to forget. It seems that the rule of three is an obvious one so obvious that the only reason any hollywood consortium would green light any number four is not to further a story but to capitalize on it. We as true blue fans will always pay the price in the end.
Nov. 3, 2003, 5:36 a.m. CST
by Pablo_Honey
Fuckers should have got SHANE BLACK to write the script. It's bleedin' obvious, innit. In Predator, great buddy action writer, OTT gung-ho sensibilities, SHANE BLACK! SHANE BLACK!
Nov. 3, 2003, 6:57 a.m. CST
AlF vs ET
by name-name-name
Eh... why not
Nov. 3, 2003, 7:56 a.m. CST
alien vs. predator
by dannybaba
i have to say, when i heard there was going to be an alien vs. predator movie i was pretty excited. though that quickly changed when i heard that paul ws. anderson would be directing. he has ruined potentially great movies in the past & i fear will do the same to this! mortal kombat could have been great, soldier should have been great & i was more than dissapointed with resident evil! why did he not just base the story on the first video game in the mansion with jill & chris instead of just the absurd storyline that we had to endure with no characters from the games themself which is what video game to movie films are all about! the only decent thing about it was milla jovovich, she sure can wear a dress well! i'm hoping that the sequel will be a bit better as he's handed over the reins to someone else but yet he still wrote it so not much hope. i will go & see avp out of curiousity but i really cannot see myself enjoying it. please let this be the last big budget movie he ever does cos it is clear that he has no talent.
Nov. 3, 2003, 4:03 p.m. CST
Killer Klowns vs Killer Tomatoes
by Trachten
You know you want it.
Nov. 3, 2003, 7:40 p.m. CST
The only "vs" movie I'll see...Sylvia Saint vs. Miko Lee
by devil0509
It'd be great. Sylvia and Miko vying in a decathalon of sex. Events such as the Pole Bounce, the Long Pump, the Triple Pump (oh YEAH), the Javelin Jerk, the Fuckathon, and more. Other contestants could compete - experienced pros like Asia Carrera and Jenna Jamison, relative newcummers like Fujiko Kano. They could all meet in a climactic struggle - a match in a cage with a dozen dildos and no clothes. Classic. An epic! Ah, but instead we get Alien vs. Predator. What a waste of celluloid.
Nov. 3, 2003, 9:34 p.m. CST
My Thoughts on this..
by scernos
I have to say I somewhat enjoyed Event Horizon. I am a big fan of Sam neil which is probably why I enjoyed it. As for the rest of Paul's movies, they all just suck the big one. Resident Evil? jesus I could make a better way scarier film then that could have ever been. Who cares about the money? The Low budget Evil dead managed to be fucking freaky and funny but delivered atmosphere which I know AVP will not have. Which brings me to another point... I agree with the guy who wrote the above article that they should have stopped after Alien 3. At least that movie had atmosphere. Im tired of great films that had top actors now being just some actors who appear in TV shows starring in them and making it all special effects. I say change the story to something in space or another planet where humans land and discover aliens and predators there. Or better yet taking place on a huge space station orbiting Alpha Centari inhabited with humans. Its pretty sad that a movie like John Carpenters the Thing is freakier then what Resident Evil should have been. You should have stuck by the games story where it takes place in a forest and used more lifelike puppets instead of that fucking CGI shit... -scernos
Nov. 4, 2003, 1:05 a.m. CST
Spoon boy- ideas for your script ; )
by tinpotned
nice try spoony but it could use some work. I imagine that your script calls for explosions chasing people down passageways at quite clearly less than 2000 metres per second, and the pressure wave having no effect on them at all. Why not call for some scientists to discover that cold fusion is actually time travel in disguise and pull up detailed schematics of a fourth dimension only moments after having heard of it? They can then pop up on LV426 with a swiss army fork and book of matches, and use technology in exciting and suspenseful ways to save Ripley and that paradigm of masculinity that we all worship, Mr D Hicks. (Newt can go hang, they use her as a distraction to lull the aliens into a false sense of security) All done, they blast off for home a job well done, not realising that an alien has infected the ships mascot chicken. Call props, and get them to come up with a scary chicken-alien. Then, AvP here we come. ching ching
Nov. 4, 2003, 3:25 a.m. CST
Alien 5 continued
by tinpotned
That changes the future, and stops Alien 3 and resurection from happening- and guess what? the time-portal closes! you have a scientist who is trapped in the past, with only a fading photo of his wife for company. (Michael J Fox maybe?)The team combo of Scientist-Ripley-Hicks travels back to Earth, tracked closely by the king Predator who for some reason is committed to inviting them back to his time portal machine to set the future straight and prevent machines from taking over the predator planet. Oh me oh my, those wacky humans think that he is trying to kill them and comedy ensues as the chicken alien's mishaps are blamed on the predator! (this part could be shot in black and white in fast motion, possibly in a kitchen with custard pies to hand)Eventually all is righted, MJF returns to the future and the King predator and Ripley exchange salutes in slow motion for a closing shot. fade to black, dash off to the bank and wheres my cut?
Nov. 5, 2003, 10:51 p.m. CST
Can we see a pattern in this discussion?
by VC_Cerberus
There appears to be a pattern in this discussion; the morons who watch to see (Quote; ' A hot chick running round kicking the butts of zombie dogs.) Hmmm. The distinguished viewer. The problem is, the Aliens vs Predator idea is a developed, in place scenario. It is not a random matchup of movies. They have become so intertwined that that practically ARE the same franchise. Predator society is based around the Xenomorph species and vice-versa. The fans of the comics, games and novels want to see an excellent movie out of an excellent idea. Anderson, purveyer of movies that are complete crap, can not give them this. So sayeth the Bey.
Nov. 5, 2003, 11:01 p.m. CST
And the other thing...
by VC_Cerberus
Is it just me, or do all you American's vocabularies consist of the following expletetives: Fucking Motherfucker Cunt Faggot *Insert here* sucker etc. I could just be a New Zealand yokel, but it seems you feel nice and grown up by using what is essentially a disguise for lack of intelligence. Why not use something original, for example: Shiznaz Getafi you bassa Kulturny
Nov. 8, 2003, 3:04 a.m. CST
Alien Resurrection was 50 times better than anything Paul "Worth
by Black Monarch
Really, Alien Res had a lot of really good stuff in it. Everything looked like shit, but the story was incredibly good. However, Paul Anderson's movies have sucked more dick than the vacuum cleaner from Scary Movie. Mortal Kombat, Resident Evil, Event Horizon, all total and complete shit. The Alien movies deserve a better ending than this. The Alien movies deserve redemption at the hands of James Cameron and Joss Whedon, not descent into shittiness at the hands of the guy who made [i]Mortal fucking Kombat[/i]. The fact that I will not see this movie is about as comforting as knowing that I will not have to watch my cat as she gets ground into hamburger.
Nov. 8, 2003, 4:41 p.m. CST
Long-Ass Cynical Post
by Busboy on Drugs
Lots of good bad ideas I see here better than what the actual script looks like. Here's my entry into best worst script contest--dare ya to top it: Alien Versus Predator: The Musical. The Poster Tagline: If you're gonna go out, go out in flames. Curtain raises: Roll opening credits. Scientists working at one of The Company
Nov. 8, 2003, 10:16 p.m. CST
Why Oh Why
by FreddaH
When I read the original script based on the graphic novels I thought it could turn out to be a good movie. I had my doubts about the jungle setting as I have always held "Running through dark corridors" to be a better approach to an alien movie, but it still tickled my fancy. Epic battles between Predators and Aliens with 'innocent' colonists packing huge guns and awsome machinery sounded pretty cool. When I heard that Paul "Mortal Kombat" Anderson was going to direct it my hopes shrunk, and when I read that Peter Briggs' script was not even being used/reworked, they totally diminished into oblivion. I will not rant about Resident Evil being good/bad, but sane movie-lovers can plainly see that this director should not be given these kinds of projects, even less be allowed to write the scripts themselves. Though I have longed for this movie for about a decade, I now must pray for Fox to scrap this script, fire the director (a firing squad would do the trick), and start the whole project from the beginning. The Alien/Predator franchise is to good to just cast away, but please don't execute the hopes and dreams of all fans by continuing this sure-to-fail project.
Nov. 16, 2003, 5:11 a.m. CST
AVP...what it should be like
by g00se
I think that the movie should take place on a planet like LV-426 in the aliens movie... a planet the company is colonizing...the predators seed that planet with the aliens ...humans are there and they get attacked by the aliens and the aliens reproduce in hoards, thats when the colonial marines come in to see whats up...but more marines than in Aliens....when they get there chaos ensues...then the predators get there and more chaos ensues....great idea in my opinion
Nov. 24, 2003, 11:22 a.m. CST
by MasterBeef
You know what just F*ck the idea of an AvP because Ridley Scott or James Cameron is not doing the movie and has no part in it so there
Nov. 29, 2003, 11:10 p.m. CST
lets go! the ultimate script
by tinpotned
ok let me see...where do we go after the "go out in flames" movie? I suggest "The Adventures of Young Alien & the Wacky Life of the Ringmaster" which is set on a pre-apocalyptic LV426...huh, how about it?!? This movie is going to explain the fundamental problems with all the movies so far.. WHY are the aliens so bad-ass and nasty all the time? WHY do the predators need to kill things so much? Can't be for food cos they must have McPredator resaurants, surely? Anyway, LV426 is a carnival / party planet inhabited by tame aliens, friendly predators with lots of big tops and rollercoasters dominating the skyline. the young alien is an alien egg with legs, who for the opening shot is being bullied in the playground by all the facehuggers who ditched their eggs ages ago. Young Alien falls down. Starts crying. Runs away to the circus to learn the mystic secrets of the Ringmaster. The Ringmaster is a wise old soul who happens to be a predator. Little Egg-hopper learns the secrets of waxing the podium, and painting the crowd control barriers. There is a show. Egg-hopper is scared. Predators and Aliens are in the crowd. The Queen is watching. He is given a stirring piece of advice by the Ringmaster, "Egg-hopper...no matter what, you have the power of the Ringmater's wisdom. Use it well." Them he dies. Egg-hopper is in the ring, performing his act. He rides a unicycle. He jumps the hoop of fire. His shell falls off. Everyone laughs. Egg-hopper, now a face-hugger, runs away again to the hills. He recruits a band of misfit face-huggers and teaches them the wisdom of the Ringmaster. He is truely on the Dark Side now, and leads them in an attack against the predator community. They kill using the Wisdom of the Ringmaster but do not infect. The aliens are blamed. Resoltions are passed in the high council. Egg-hoppers troops attack the aliens. All out war ensues between the Aliens and Predators. This is in the form of a dance-off in the Giant Circus Tent of Doom. split storyline here, one follows the Dance-off and the other is with Egg-hopper in the hills. Yoda appears. He fights Egg-hopper in bullet time. All rebel face-huggers are killed. Or are they? Yoda leaves in a flying candy-cane. The dance off is a draw, the predators and Aliens come to an agreement: they will both leave LV-426 and go into the real-estate business together on the Predator homeworld. But there is one rebel face-huger left alive. He eats the King Predators last easter egg. That is the final straw, King pred kills him using a spreargun (which up til that point was used for juggling and props in the circus.) Predators suddenly realise that all of their comedy props can double as weapons. The 2 species agree to war wherever they find each other. The two ships blast off, the predators nuke the planet when they leave because the King Pred forgot his credit card, and doesnt want anyone using it. End
Dec. 10, 2003, 5:08 p.m. CST
The comic book isreally good why can't this be?
by littleboy
Now if you look past the director you can see it ahs good potential. The comics are just are awesome (as told by a friend of mines) and I'm not talking kiddy stuff here. Wether the movie is good or not we're all going to go watch it admit it.
Jan. 22, 2004, 9:25 p.m. CST
Whats Wrong With Most Of You!?!?
by Master
I'm sorry folks but I was reading most of these posts about the upcoming Alien Vs. Predator movie and Paul W.S. Anderson. And I honestly never EVER post anything ANYWHERE but this time I just had to stand up and speak/type my mind. Now I know that everyone has the right to thier own opinion and I fully respect that, however I am not too keen on the idea of judging the work of Paul W.S. Anderson so harshly. First off, I thought Resident Evil was a good movie and an excellent excuse to make a kick-ass zombie movie! and in my personal opinion it delivered just what I expected when I first heard of its production. And second of all, Soldier. Now I have heard alot of nasty talk about this film, most of which holds at least some truth. But in my opinion the movie was meant to depict the loneliness the life of a bred-to-obey soldier would be like. And with an actor like Kurt Russell as the star of the film, it's hard to get bad results. As I said before everone has the right to thier own opinions. So in my opinion Paul W.S. Anderson did an excellent job of directing his vision of life as a bred soldier and also delivered a great action picture. And third of all, the fact that an Aliens Vs. Predator movie is actually being made is rewards enough for ten years of rumors and tossed scripts. I say its about goddamn time AVP was made one way or another. I have heard every story there is to be heard about how an AVP movie is "In the works" and I've been hearing them since 1990 (And for a devoted fan of both franchises thats a hell of a long time to wait) And since I have faith in the talents of Paul W.S. Anderson, I say all the power to him and good luck on this picture, if its calibur is along the lines of any of his more recent films I will be happy. I for one am on his side and am counting on him to make up for ten years of waiting for this film to finally be made. And on a final note I would just like to add that.... In one the posts above I read that "it's pretty sad when a movie like John Carpenter's: The Thing" is freakier than what Resident Evil should have been" or something to that effect. Well of course it's freakier! I dont know what else you could expect from a sci-fi horror movie, The Thing was and IS in my opinion one of the absolute GREATEST sci-fi horror films ever to be made. It has everything you could ask for in sci-fi horror. I wont say anything more about it, but if you have somehow not seen "John Carpenter's: The Thing" and are a fan of the sci-fi horror genre, then get your ass out there and rent it TONIGHT, you'll see what I'm talking about. (Just make sure the kids are asleep before you play it) But thats my opinion on these issues, everyone just remember to keep an open mind and give it a chance before you knock it.
June 23, 2004, 8:42 a.m. CST
Neil is gay
by Indiana Clones
June 23, 2004, 8:46 p.m. CST
Damn you guys are a bunch of nerds...
by Mike G
and so am I, but I'm not going to start slandering something that I haven't seen yet. I am huge fan of Alien AND Predator, as I know Paul Anderson is too, so I can't help but have a little faith in him to bring us a good rock em sock em sci fi pic. I'm sure he paid enough attention to the series to give atleast enough series continuity as all us dorks need. And as far as Alien and Predator lore... big f'n deal. We've all seen the past A & P movies, and I don't know about you, but I can give up not seeing either Predators or Aliens inthe first 30 minutes of the movie. The damn predator could take his mask off in the first frame for all I care. When all is said and done... its just a friggin movie (that I've been waiting 12 years to see, and atleast Paul Anderson is MAKING movies... unlike all you poor whiny bastards. You all are a bunch of Eberts... big fat Eberts. (And I love ya) And Sam Neil is gay... big deal.
July 20, 2004, 8:52 p.m. CST
Paul Anderson
by jules_saul
Who keeps giving this lobotomized fool money to excrete celluloid sewage !! Its like giving a particularly stupid chimpanzee a million dollars to try and paint "The Mona Lisa---2!!" (this time she puts out) A movie I'd love to see "The Terminator, The Predator,The Aliens, Chucky, Jaws, Freddy, Jason, Candyman, Wile E Coyote and Big Bird take it in turns to kick the living shit out of a f*****n' stoopid ass so called 'director"
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