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Industry Brand B-7
by B.B. Pelletier
Our favorite guest blogger, Vince, is at it again. Today, he shares his experience of testing a Chinese airgun.
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Now, take it away, Vince!
Ahhh… the way we were! The way some of us were, anyway. By "us," I'm referring to those of us who first got into airguns (or came back to airguns) after being seduced by those irrascible Chinese. I'm going back about, oh, 10 years or so ago, when, waltzing through the internet, we would find all sorts of places selling "The Chinese Can Opener" or the "High-Power Military Training Air Rifle." What a deal they were — my goodness, why on earth would ANYONE spend $100 or more on one of those high-falutin' overpriced airguns when these $25 Chinese models were obviously just as good? And we knew they were just as good because that number said so!
You know, that number. The velocity number. Because that was the only thing that mattered! That one number told us the whole story!
Sooner or later, we discovered the inevitable — although for some (like, uh, me), it was certainly later than sooner. Eventually, the B3, B4-2 and Fast Deer airguns went by the wayside to be replaced by Gamos, RWSs, Cometas, Noricas, and then Spanish and German Beemans. Around this time, the Chinese started cranking up the quality, though, so their better products didn't entirely leave our field of view. But the old carved-out-of-a-2×4-and-lubed-with-pig-fat models — along with all their broken seals, mainsprings and promises — were pretty much forgotten.
But man is a funny animal, and a collector (even a half-baked collector) often sees value in diversity as well as quality. And just as a man who collects Mustangs sort of really needs a 1974 Mustang II 4 cylinder automatic (as horrid a car as it was) in his collection, I began pining for some of those old, crude guns just because they were there.
So it was that I found myself fishing around for some of those old bottom-feeders…those poorly made, all wood-steel-and-leather guns that smelled like bacon grease when fired. Those guns that, frankly, I had virtually no interest in shooting, except to appreciate the better guns that came later. The subject of this report, the Industry Brand QB-51, is one of those fossils I dug up.
Industry Brand B-7 spring-piston rifle.
This .177-caliber breakbarrel air rifle was also called the Industry Brand B-7 and shouldn't be confused with the BAM B-7. That gun was the old sporter-style sidelever that actually had a reputation for being sort of decent. No, the Industry Brand B-7 was one of those smoke-and-soot, machined with a dull file and worn-out drill bits and carved-with-a-hatchet examples of communism at its most typical. If you were lucky, it worked out of the box. If not, well, it simply didn't. But luck shines upon me, and this one actually did.
The QB-51 was one of those novelty guns they used to put together by combining a low-buck action with some possibly less-than-useless useless bells and whistles. This one was apparently playing paratrooper with a folding wire stock, a total weight of under 6 lbs. and an overall length of only 35 inches. But it's not a kid's gun by any stretch — the pull length of 14 inches and a 28-lb. cocking force certainly attest to that.
Since the folding stock is obviously the most interesting aspect of this gun, let's take a look at that first. It actually has two interesting features, the less obvious being an adjustable buttpad.
Buttpad is centered.
Buttpad adjusted down.
Is an adjustable buttpad on this cheap gun completely pointless? Actually it isn't. It can be used to dial up a more comfortable shooting position. The gun does look awkward as all get out if the pad is moved too far off the normal position; but let's face it, this pup isn't winning any beauty contests if the judges are permitted to keep their eyes open.
The folding stock is perhaps less useful.
Folding stock extended.
The stock is folded flat against the side of the gun.
This is what it looks like from the side.
Some rifles with a folding stock can be handled as a pistol (sort of); that's not really going to happen with this gun. All it does is make the rifle a bit shorter and easier to pack up for transport — if you could think of any reason you'd want to. But at least the rough cast folding/locking mechanism is stout enough.
The hinge is stout and tight!
Moving past that, we come to the pistol grip — and another gadget! The grip is hollow and has a sliding door at the bottom.
The grip has a secret compartment!
Presumably, you can put pellets in there. It would hold several hundred, even if getting them out one at a time might be a bit tricky. Again, we have an oddball feature that still isn't quite useless.
On top of the gun, we can see the simple rear sight. If you were into mid-grade airguns 10-15 years ago, you might recognize it. This is pretty much a knock-off of the old Gamo sight that used to come on a variety of their breakbarrels. Frankly, they did well to copy it. It's simple, largely devoid of free-play and pretty darned rugged.
The rear sight was kind of nice!
Finding it on this rifle was a pleasant surprise, and I was hoping to find a similar surprise as I moved rearward toward the trigger. I already knew that Industry Brand used a knock-off of the Gamo trigger in their QB-57, QB-88 and QB-25 models. When I saw that telltale safety tang in the triggerguard area, I got my hopes up. It says something about bottom-feeder Industry Brand triggers when you're seriously looking forward to a Gamo trigger. But even those modest hopes were quickly dashed. This gun has a simple direct-sear and a crude sliding safety, both of which makes a 2004 Gamo Shadow feel like a Swiss watch.
As I move around the gun, it's becoming obvious that this thing is based on the old Industry Brand 61 and 62 model actions, later known as the B-1 and B-2, respectively. I've had those. My B-1 had a horribly inaccurate barrel and probably a 12-lb. trigger. One B-2 had a soft trigger that quickly wore and went into the auto-fire mode, and the other B-2 bent its rear retaining pin because it couldn't handle the spring pressure. As one might guess, I don't get all excited by B-1/B-2 variants.
One giveaway is the breech pivot bolt.
The pivot bolt has only four places for the locking screw to engage. That often makes it difficult to adjust properly, for many times you want to stop somewhere in-between.
And the other is the smashed-leather breech seal.
The leather breech seal is as flat as a pancake.
Both are hallmarks of Industry Brand inferiority, and that breech bolt (with its four positive locking stops) frequently makes it impossible to properly tighten up the sideplay without making custom washers to go under the bolt head.
Oh well…let's keep going. The front sight is basic enough.
Front sight is what you would expect.
Although I won't be using it. I've learned from recent testing that I just can't be consistent with open sights anymore — so I pretty much have to go to a scope. The problem is that the grooves milled into the receiver are ridiculously short. In trying to mount a scope, look at what I had to resort to.
The Daisy variable scope was cheap enough and worked well. Notice how close the rings have to be to fit the short dovetails!
The skinny scope mounts I used — moved as close together as possible — barely fit. The scope, by the way, is a cheap Daisy Powerline 3-9×32 (no AO), in which I had fudged the objective lens to eliminate parallax at 10 yards. Set up this way, the $35 scope works like a champ — and seems way too good for a rifle like this.
I do have some concerns about running a scope on this gun, however — Diana's aren't the only breakbarrels to have droop, and this one seemed to have joined that party. But there's only one way to find out, so I'm off to test it. And, yes, this time I checked the stock screws first.
I'm shooting the gun with the same series of pellets I used last time — although, frankly, putting Crosman Premiers through this rifle seems rather silly.
I tried all these pellets in this gun.
No matter, same drill — 5 shots to get the barrel used to a pellet, then 5 on each through two separate bulls.
Much to my surprise, dialing in the Daisy scope wasn't such a big deal, and soon I was landing pellets close enough for government work. Though the Daisy scope worked well enough, the Daisy Precision Max wadcutter pellets didn't.
Daisy Precision Max wadcutters: These shots are hard to see, but the group sizes are listed next to them.
These groups came in at 0.66 inches and 0.82 inches; but come to think of it, maybe I'm being too hard on these pellets. Maybe this really is the best this gun can do!
Crosman Competition wadcutters do nothing to dispel that notion. At 0.78 inches and 1.40 inches, they're making the Daisys look good.
Crosman Competition wadcutters.
At 1.28 inches and 1.52 inches, Crosman Hunting pellets (pointed) do even worse.
Even my cherished Crosman Premier hollowpoints are sucking canal water at 1.12 inches and 0.9 inches.
Of all the Crosman pellets, only the Premier Lites seems to consistently do under an inch — although 0.82 inches and 0.9 inches is nothing to squawk about.
Crosman Premier Lites did better, but still not great.
Oddly enough, those new Gamo Match pellets I don't like so much just about equalled the Crosman Premier Lites in this gun.
Gamo Match pellets were a pleasant surprise. But it still isn't good enough.
But at 0.95 inches and 0.88 inches, they still couldn't match the Daisys. I had high hopes for the RWS Diabolo Basic pellets that seem to shoot so well in many low-power guns. I finally started to see some improvement.
RWS Diabolog Basic pellets are an inexpensive wadcutter. They look good here.
At 0.57 inches for both groups, they were quite consistent; and now we're starting to get into the range of acceptable performance for a cheap rifle.
But then we have the Beemans. Not the German Beemans from H&N. I'm referring to those imposter, Chinese-made Beeman wadcutter coated pellets. My very first group with them was typical for this rifle.
These groups are difficult to see, but Beeman coated wadcutters, which are made in China, did remarkably well.
As you can see, the second group was a shocker. We went from 0.78 inches to 0.37 inches in one set. Something's up. Let's try this one more time.
Incredible! Almost a quarter-inch group of Beeman coated wadcutters. I circled the group for you.
My goodness! Stick a feather on my rump and call me a turkey — but this Chinese junk just put 5 pellets into virtually a 1/4-inch group.
Now, before anyone starts complaining — "That's not fair! No other pellet got a third chance!" — let me explain something. The Beemans were absolutely the first pellets I shot, and during that time I was trying to come to grips with that yucky trigger. That's why I think the first group was poor. Since the second group did so well, I shot the third group last after I had completed all other testing. So I think this third test was fair and that it really means something.
[Editor's note. This happens sometimes, and it's a reminder of the hold sensitivity issue and why things have to be done just right to see good results. I've seen what Vince is talking about. With some experience under your belt, you'll know when something deserves a second chance like this.]
But before we get too excited, let's do a velocity check. Since the Chinese Beeman pellets were far and away the best, those were the only ones I tested. 10 shots came out like so: 396, 397, 388, 390, 380, 381, 381, 379, 381, 377.
We immediately notice three things: (1) The velocity stinks, especially for a gun with an almost 30-lb. cocking force. (2) The velocity seems to be on a downward trend. (3) The spread of 19 f.p.s. is significant, considering the fact that this thing is outgunned by a P17 pistol.
Where does that leave us?
Well, to begin with, this gun obviously has a decent barrel. Not sure how that happened, but happen it did. And if the barrel is good, the gun is good, right? Couple that with the fact that, against all odds, this example also seems to have a consistent lockup — and we seem to have a perfect diamond in the rough.
Yes – very rough. I could probably go through this gun and get the velocity up to 500-600 f.p.s. range, and some trigger smoothing and lubing would probably help as well. Even at that — will I ever want to shoot this thing just for fun? Really?
If I'm honest — not really. In fact, I have absolutely no reason IN THE WORLD to go through the trouble of tearing this thing apart and making it right.
Nope. No reason at all.
I'll let y'all know how it turns out.
[Editor's note. Maybe I should have made this a Part 1. We'll see what Vince does. I don't want him to feel pressured.]
62 Responses to "Industry Brand B-7"
Vince you are incredible, if someone would have told me I wouldn't have believed him but I actually, kinda want one of those piece of crap now… shame on you. IF I buy one and I lose a finger I'm blaming it on YOU
Why is it that some of us are captivated with things like that? I don't seem to be able to resist cheap airguns and I, like you, know better and should stay away from these digit choping rifles but I can't.
Why/how can they make a folding stock pivot look so crude yet produce a barrel able to achieve .25 inch groups? And WHY do I now want one of these… I'm puzzled.
You're bad influence on me Vince, I think you're worst than Tom and to top it all off you make all those repairs and make some of them seem so easy I'm tempted to try them on.
Well it's almost 1am so off to bed I go.
What a difference a day makes! From a Cadillac to a Jalopnik.
Favorite of the bad kid in "Toy Story".
Vinve, thanks a lot for this entertaining post!
One reason why these old chinese junkers are so suprisingly accurate is their low-powered mainspring that results in a much more forgiving system.
Mainspring isn't really low-powered. I had another one a few years ago, and that one was much faster with the same cocking force (between 500 and 600fps). There's something up with the gun.
Looking forward to a Gamo trigger? That's sad. I was just starting to delve into the world of air guns ten to fifteen years ago, but I think my firearm experience warned me away from the Asian imports of the time. I still am not that impressed with what I see, even if it does say Crosman or Benjamin or ….
I do have to admit that some of the higher end Asian imports are worth owning, but only because of quality control of the import company. I can see Marauders and such taking a downhill slide when the marketeers decide a larger profit margin is needed. Didn't the Marauders originally have walnut stocks?
I guess if I get into rebuilding air guns in the future, I could see me buying some of these things to see if I can "fix" them.
A great story and quite an impressive rifle, despite it's ugly as a crocodile. I doubt if it's possible to make it look better anyway. Nevertheless it has definite flaw in its design – they thought they could sort out everything with a spring, but they forgot (or never knew) that motto "spring moves, but volume rules". Too short and very ineffective swept volume. It may happen that _weaker_ spring and channel restrictor will make it shoot faster and flatter.
Some technical solutions make me think that going back down its line of ancestors it looks like a strange crossbreed between early series Izh-38 (barrell lock, bolts and sealing system) and Gamo-clone trigger.
Horrible gun, great article, and ah yes, Fords loaded Pinto… the non production period of the Mustang.
Back to the gun, I wonder if every one produced made it to distribution or do you suppose there was a "quality control" department? If you do tear open this gun and tweak on it, I would love to read about the results! Thanks for today's post.
Vince: I know why you mess with these because I'm a hopeless addict also. It's no different than remodeling old miltary relics into sporters. You still have a relic in a nice wrapper when your done, and you really didn't save any money either. I have way better airguns as well ,and no need to make one of these burred up pieces of scrap metal shoot , but despite that, I have just fiished tuning up a TS-45 in .177, and have now moved on to a QB-6 in .22. I even put a Williams reciever sight on the QB-6 that costs 1 1/2 times what the gun did new (can't see as well anymore either). The QB-6 has the open sight that is right on the very back of the receiver and wouldn't adjust low enough. The TS-45 I paid less than $10 bucks shipped for it. After I repaired it, (it wouldn't cock or fire) it is doing as well as your gun is using the RWS Miesterkulgens at 10 meters with open sights. There are no scope rails on the TS-45, so open sights are all you got. My crony string with the miesters showed a velocity of 612.6 fps low to 617.5 fps high for ten shots . I think that getting a result with one of these like that is what the fun is all about. It's like hunting, it's all about the chase, and if it doesn't work out , go chase something else. Beats sitting on your butt watching reality TV too.
Yeah, the mini 14 seems to fill the whole spectrum between accurate and inaccurate, mostly inaccurate, but I have shot ONE mini 14 ( a friend's ) that was fairly accurate. All from the same company that makes otherwise good stuff. Go figure.
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No chance Vince doesn't use his valuable time and tear down this unvaluable gun. My guess is that he secretly wants to take apart one of every airgun on earth, and make it better. I purchased a very good Tech Force rifle from him, a good deal cheaper than new. I secretly wanted to smell cooking bacon when I shot it. No dice, he went through it, and replaced the animal fat with moly apparently.
"..sucking canal water…"? I must start jotting these things down. A creatively phrased description beats a profanity any day. Thanks for another great blog. I must confess that you are not my favorite guest blogger. But you are in a dead heat for 1st with Edith. I always look forward to reading what you write.
A Dutch friend of mine used to use that expression a lot.
Much of the appeal for these guns lies in the potential improvement factor. There's no question that your Anschutz will shoot well–it's simply a given. The satisfaction to inveterate tinkerers lies in the possibilities and the satisfaction obtained when it works far better than expected. It's also a boon that the guns are so inexpensive, we can consider them cheap shop entertainment.
Yes, yes. Chinese air rifles. The thing they are best at is making money when you sell them. As to watching your finger……..do it. I still have mine. Don't ask me how I know.
Great job, Vince. Today is my last full day in Barcelona and I decided to try to someone that sells Gamos. No luck. Probably just as well
Fred DPRoNJ.
Another great blog, Vince! And yes, picking up a cheap gun and NOT trying to make it better would be the equivalent of not taking a double dog dare ya!
Vince,I never run short of admiration for your work,nor enthusiasm for your writing style.Good luck working with this one…..at least you have a barrel to start with! My own notion of an airgun BARGAIN
is a Marksman 70.They are truly worth double the average market price.The same goes for the 60-61
side levers.You are really putting from the rough to take this one on…….but I have NO doubt you can
do something close to a miracle with it!
Thanks for the fun and interesting report! Man! You sure must be a curious one!
Incidentally, I too have gotten good results from the Beeman coated wadcutter's.
I happened to get about 5 FREE tins from K-Mart, so I've been able to see that they can perform surprisingly well on some guns. The good news is that they are relatively cheap, so they are excellent as plinking ammo.
B.B. and Vince,
When you guys describe Chinese airguns it just kills me. How do you come up with this stuff? It's so funny I have to cover my tears. My wife thinks I'm crazy. She is rarely incorrect.
B.B. – What ever happened to the LW barreled TS-45? With you, Ray and Dennis working on it, it's a piece of American airgun history.
Another great article, Vince!
I think Mel has it nailed as to the reason for it's accuracy. It develops so little power it doesn't jump around much when it is fired. It makes my Daisy 880′s seem like magnums.
The lack of finishing on this gun is pretty shocking, especially the rough-casting of the stock hinge. I thought perhaps the folding stock would allow it to be shot as a pistol, but, no.
I'm glad to see how the products of the Chinese airgun industry have improved over this thing.
Well, that hinge on the rifle looks like it was made by Neanderthal Man. The point about the stock adjustment was an interesting one. David Tubb claims that the rifle/shooter interface, which means mostly ergonomics, is the key to higher accuracy. But I have to admit, I have used relatively little of the adjustment on my Anschutz rifle. Maybe that other stuff only comes into play at a high level.
FrankB., glad you're back. Don't forget to send along the potato recipe. I've been experimenting.
BG_Farmer, yes a chainsaw can be a fearsome weapon. I saw a YouTube video about horrible neighbors where one large woman was leaning over a guy's fence, mutilating his flower bushes with a chain saw and saying into the camera, "Come here, you little twerp." I'm afraid I'll need a translation of the Latin. There may have been a time when I could have made sense of that with the aid of a dictionary, but that time is long gone. And I can't even guess what it says.
Victor, it's time to resurrect the domain and range! If anyone is offended by this, please move on as you would from a messy traffic accident; there's nothing to see. Or better yet, provide some other explanation. On the subject of the action of the spring-piston and the small amount of perceived backwards recoil, it is intuitive that the backwards recoil (caused by the forward release of the spring) will be registered at its full energy in the shooter's shoulder. One explanation for the surprisingly small impulse that is felt maybe is that it happens so fast that you don't notice. But another explanation would be that the felt recoil is not just a matter of perception but actually corresponds to much less than the actual energy released by the forward movement of the spring. The reason for the reduction is the propagation of the momentum through the stock and into the shoulder as follows. The counteracting slam of the piston into the breech provides a canceling forwards movement of the gun that is set in motion down the stock a very small amount of time after the spring releases. My Conjecture is that the shooter only sees the difference between the two which is the element of backwards recoil before the canceling forwards movement catches up. So, would this mechanism serve as the basis for a NON one-to-one function (which spreads out the original backwards recoil along the stock and subtracts the forwards slamming effect) so that the original value of the backwards recoil is diminished to something much smaller when it reaches the shooter? Of course some big assumptions to this model are that the travel time of recoil down the stock into the shoulder is at least comparable to the time it takes a piston to cycle. The fact that the stock is rigid makes you wonder if there is so much of a delay. On the other hand, wood is not as stiff as metal, and a shoulder certainly is not. So as shooter, engineer, and mathematician, any opinions about this? And yes, I knew this has very little practical consequence and is mostly mad science for its own sake.
Another great blog, Vince, and mighty fine shooting.
Just goes to show that Chinese airguns can be great value for money if you are prepared to do some tweaking.
Always enjoy your blogs. Looking forward to the take down.
Thanks for reminding me of my first air rifle. It makes me appreciate what I have now even more! It was in a "bucket-o-airguns" by the counter in a gun store, only $49.99 each and "carved-out-of-a-2×4-and-lubed-with-pig-fat" describes it perfectly. Mine never shot groups as good as yours though. Of course I'm also pretty sure that it had been cocked and then fired to snap the barrel up when it was in the store judging by how crooked it shot. At ten meters the best I could get out of it was about a 70% chance of hitting a pop can (holding the sights about a half can-height down and a can-height to the left!). At the time I thought I was just a terrible shot. Now that I have a couple of good air rifles I've proved to myself that I'm just mediocre!
I have a chinese rifle that I can only identify because the sight adjustment wheels are stamped in chinese which naturally I do not understand. These are the only markings other than the usual safety and other markings required by various countries. There is no brand or model number anywhere on the gun. It's an underlever and fairly accurate. It's relatively light, rather uncomplicated and I was told it is a chinese military training rifle. I think I paid around $50.00 for it at a "junk store", one of those shops selling a variety of cheap chinese tools, and other stuff. It's long out of business now. In fact this rifle is one of my favorite cheap chinese guns because it is relatively accurate, easy to operate guns. I think it was made in 2005 since I bought it not long after I moved into my apartment. If anyone thinks they can identify it, let me know and I'll get you a picture of the thing.
One other unusual thing is it must be unusual since it was stolen around 4 years ago and the cops were able to locate it and return it to me along with 4 others, one was a tech force model 67 I think it is.
Sounds like an Industry B3 or a BAM B4-2. Does it have rails for mounting a scope? If it does, are they cut into the tube or is it a separate piece that mounts on top of the tube and is bolted to the rear sight?
A Chinese? airgun? Makes about as much sense to me as buying a Chinese knock off of a Smith and Wesson Model 41.
Oh, wait? Seems some where I heard of a Chinese made SS2? Supposed to be a "fine" example of a FWB 65 at a "bargain" price. Dumb me always wanted an SS2. Fortunately you can now buy used FWB 65′s at fairly reasonable prices.
Even though this seems to be a mild mannered hunk-o-junk, are you sure it won't blow up on you and take out an eyeball?
When I was a kid and had maybe $.26 to my name I might o bought one for $.10 of my bankroll.
Glad I'm not a kid any more.
Btw…some poor soul actually gave me some Chinese under lever gun that they didn't want. Dunno why they didn't want it? It cocked. It shot. Accuracy was REALLY great. Some where like minute of soda pop can at about 5 – 10 feet. And wonder of wonders in the modern day world it was actually honest to goodness wood and metal. Now why in heck would any one want to give away such a beauty?
Newtothis, no, this gun is not going to blow up. I've worked on quite a few airguns, and am familiar with the pressures and stresses these guns have to contain. My eyes are not at risk.
The gun is crude, no doubt. But if you read the report you'll note that 10m accuracy is actually quite passable for a low-end gun. I've shot American-made guns (the Crosman 795 comes to mind) that couldn't hold a candle to this thing in accuracy or in the strength of its construction. The low power this example is exhibiting is not helping accuracy at all. Since the spring is in good shape it still has a full load of piston recoil and induced harmonics, even though it just isn't building up the pressure it should.
The low-end Chinese guns were always hit-or-miss, sometimes luck of the draw, sometimes dependent on which factory churned them out. Some time ago I'd done a comparison of two TS45′s… if you look up that report you'll see what I mean. (http://airgun-academy.pyramydair.com/blog/2011/03/a-tale-of-two-ts45-rifles/#comments)
Yes, the Chinese have knocked off a lot of guns. Sometimes they are copies such as the BAM B18/B19, B21, or B20/26. Other times they are almost outright clones as with the Industry AR1000/Norica Marvic. Speaking of those, I do have a Beeman GS1000 that is someday going head-to-head with its Walther Force 1000 Chinese clone. Preliminary testing, however, indicates that the Spanish original doesn't really shoot any better.
Dismissing the Chinese airguns out of hand, making broad assumptions about their relative quality is a mistake. They do have their faults, but the Chinese have long demonstrated their ability to surprise the more complacent industrial societies.
What type of rings do these Industry brand rifles require? I have the B3-2 and cannot for the life of me get a mount that works.


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The "Glee" girls include Lea Michele, Jayma Mays, Dianna Agron, Jenna Ushkowitz, Naya Rivera, and Heather Morris.
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Thanks to the Young, the Tide is Still Turning Toward Catholicism
All too often I hear the familiar refrain; "how can the tide be turning if the world seems to be increasingly at odds with the Church?" The skeptics of my book, The Tide is Turning Toward Catholicism refer to many newsworthy stories in their query of my thesis. They point to elected officials and government czars seemingly supportive of ideas that not only challenge the core of Catholic beliefs, but conventional societal beliefs about the family as well. The skeptics of my thesis point to the latest Hollywood Cause Célèbre which involves rallying around a man (famed Film Director Roman Polanski) who has admitted to raping a child of 13 when he was 45 years old. They also point to the outright mockery of the Catholic Church at the hands of the entertainment industry by those who believe the tide is turning in their direction. In addition, the skeptics of my thesis also point to stories that barely get any media attention such as an abortion clinic who prominently displayed a crucifix in their window with Jesus replaced on the cross by a chicken. Another sign in the window of the same abortion clinic read "no job too big or too small." How could the tide be turning if this is what we see and don't see on television news, the morning paper or on the internet they asked? Thankfully, there are many reasons that tide is turning, and we need to look no further than the young to understand why.
Keep in mind that while the tide is turning for the Church, it is turning in the wrong direction for for the world. The Church is the only one who can save the world and it is something which has already been done many times in history, which is why the enemies of the Church are so upset. If the enemies of religion would be as kind to us as they are toward the liberal mainline Protestant churches, one would have cause to be worried. However unlike the mainline Protestant churches, the Catholic Church's numbers are not in a free fall and vocation numbers are on the increase.
Susan G. Komen Supports Abortion Still
[Updates at the bottom of this article as of 8:31pm CDT AD 9-30-2009 shows alternatives --other than Komen-- for fundraising activities related to Breast Cancer research that are Pro-Life in their outlook]
The Susan G. Komen for the Cure (Komen) is an organization that funds breast cancer research. This noble effort by Komen to save the lives of both women and men who are afflicted with breast cancer is tainted by their funding of abortion via Planned Parenthood.
Each year Catholics and most other Christians raise their concerns about supporting Komen specifically because Komen donates money to Planned Parenthood. Catholics and most other Christians unknowingly assist Komen in their fundraising efforts which goes against the teachings of Jesus as stated in the Fifth Commandment of "You shall not kill".
Due to this criticism attributed to Komen in funding abortion, Komen released an open letter in March 2009 concerning their relationship with Planned Parenthood. In this open letter they defended their donations to Planned Parenthood raising three (3) reasons why it is acceptable to continue to donate money to Komen even though they provide funding to abort innocent unborn children.
I will address their open letter with their three (3) reasons here:
Sebelius Confirmation Hearing
Today, Tuesday, April 1, 2009, Gov. Kathleen Sebelius appeared before the Senate HELP Cmte. for the first of two hearings to be confirmed as the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Sebelius, as we all know, is a pro-choice Catholic who's position on sanctity of life issues is troublesome given her future task, if confirmed, to lead in a health care reform overhaul that is expected to be introduced and brought to a congressional vote at the end of this year.


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For those expecting Saturday night to be the evening that the wheels finally fell off the Notre Dame express against Oklahoma, well, I've got some bad news for you: The Irish aren't going anywhere. On the Saturday, the Irish got another signature win, stunning the Sooners 30-13 in Norman. And unlike so many of their other wins, this one came courtesy of the offense. Well, that's not entirely fair, given that the Irish once again shut down another high-powered offensive attack. In this case it was Oklahoma, which entered Saturday ranked fifth in the country and averaging 44 points a game. Still, we'll get to Manti Te'o and the defense in a second; because ultimately what Saturday will be remembered for the Notre Dame offense. And it'll be remembered for quarterback Everett Golson in specific. Simply put, the redshirt freshman played his best game in a Notre Dame uniform Saturday, finishing the evening with 15 completions in 25 pass attempts for 177 yards. And it was h...
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AFC Wimbledon's January rebuild continued last night as they signed Bognor Regis Town's prolific striker Jason Prior.
The 23-year-old signed a two-and-half year deal after the Dons fended off competition from a number of Football League clubs for his signature.
Prior scored 38 goals for Bognor last season and had 28 for them already this and Dons manager Terry Brown was delighted with the coup.
"Having watched Jason on four different occasions, when he scored in every game, I can assure you we have brought a prolific goalscorer into the club," he said.
"Any doubts about the difference in levels were dispelled when I travelled up to Newcastle to see Jason and Billy Knott, an excursion I came back from determined to sign two very talented players.
"I am pleased to say we have now secured the second one of our targets.
"Jason is very powerful in the air, a good hold up player and the most important box he ticked was his ability to take chances in and around the box as his record of nearly 100 goals in about 120 games shows."
"I am really pleased that he chose us ahead of other Football League clubs and, barring injury, he will go straight into the squad on Saturday."
As part of the deal, Wimbledon will take their first team to Bognor for a pre-season friendly in the summer.
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My Timbuk2 Full-Cycle Messenger (Small) is ready for class tonight.
How much of what is inside is really needed today or tonight? Not much. I just typically keep my Timbuk2's filled w pens, gum, mints, notebooks, MAKE Magazine issues, etc. I'd guess I could remove 2/3 of what is in there weight-wise and be ok.
But why would I?
YerI now own the coolest most unique earbuds around. Marvel at the awesome. Te before picture is the plain cord. The rest are my new color matched and lovingly wrapped ones. Special thanks to AZJunkGirl's kiddo who did an amazing job!
Man I am glad I am not OCD into sleeveless shirts because I could totally get into these, not sports shirts, just the cool colors of sleeveless shirts. To go with my 300 or so t-shirts. And 100 or so shoes.
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Hipstamatic is on sale for the 4th of July weekend, 50% off. If you don't already own this wonderful camera app, pick it up now, it's only $.99 USD.
And, I highly recommend the Foodie Pak as your first IAP. Seriously. You can do some amazing stuff with this app, photowise, and the Foodie pack's depth of field is crazy. It's like hittin your fave shots with a f/1.8 or similar.
So pick it up and take some wicked shots with the wonder camera in your pocket.
I personally LOVE this app. I am pretty sure that I could pass off some of the shots I've taken with it for shots taken with a nice DSLR. Sure, it has some kinda over the top filtery lens/film/flash packs, but it has a ton of great stuff to offer too. And like I said in the post above, the Foodie Pak should be your first in app purchase. Seriously. Look through my posts here, a good portion of my food shots and shots with wicked depth of field blur are from Hipstamatic and the Foodie Pak. And the Foodie Pak's lens works great with some of their other films too.
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A benefits fair is scheduled for 10 a.m. until 1 p.m. Saturday at Maude Cobb Convention and Activity Center, at 100 Grand Boulevard in Longview. The fair is open to veterans, their spouses, widows or dependants in Gregg, Smith, Harrison, Upshur and Rusk counties.
The next scheduled benefits fair is July 13 at the Norris Conference Center in San Antonio.
VLB staff, as well as representatives from the Texas Veterans Commission, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, Small Business Administration and Social Security Administration, provide a relaxed, one-stop location for information on disability and pension claims, home, land and home improvement loans, state veterans homes and cemeteries.
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Aura Parker's bodies of work are constantly evolving. She often draws on themes of nature, humanity and childhood. Her work is insightful, charming and often tongue-in-cheek and playful.
When it comes to her individual style, Aura's artwork is often very bright and highly patterned. She likes to use curly organic lines, inspired by Art Nouveau, Japanese woodblock prints and geometric designs. She often works in watercolour, coloured pencil, gouache with digital enhancements. Aura's work is whimsical and quirky, yet personal too. She is passionate about art, design and children's literature. She lives in Sydney with her family and three children, who she tries to read and draw with as much as she can.
Aura has a background in web design, motion graphics and brand creation with over 15 years' experience as a graphic designer and illustrator. After studying Multimedia, TV production, animation at SVA and Enmore Design Centre, she worked in Sydney as a motion graphic designer and then travelled to the UK to work for the BBC London. Arriving back in Sydney in 2000, she worked on freelance projects from corporate branding, e-learning projects and interface design. Her drawing skill were what set her apart from other graphic designers, and she later branched out to work with publishers on illustrations and book covers. Her work is diverse, and ranges from whimsical and colourful designs for children to logos and scientific illustrations.
Aura's enduring interest in the expression of colour and fiber art, and her fascination with repeat patterns, led to the creation of her own original collection of bright contemporary prints in 2010. Aura exhibited at 'Designing with Fabric' at the Watch House Gallery in Balmain, which received a great response. She exhibited again the following year and what was originally a passion, has since flourished into a creative business. In 2012 she started working in collaboration with her sister-in-law, highly creative interior designer Marena Von Behr under the label Studio Bonnie, making screen printed art and textiles. Studio Bonnie has since exhibited twice in Sydney at the Design Institute's Interwoven exhibition at the Damien Minton Gallery, and in Melbourne for Spring Fashion Week. They can also be found at art and design markets like The Finders Keepers. The designs are now available online and through Lane Cove Gallery. Aura is now busy in the studio with Marena developing new work for 2014. For more info see www.studiobonnie.com
Aura Parker's expertise in e-learning design, graphic design and illustration, combined with her interest in the digital landscape, led to the development of her first ebook app. 'Nine Months on the Inside' is a beautifully illustrated and animated story in a diary format that is a refreshing and funny look at pregnancy. It became available for the iPad and iPhone in July 2012 and has since enjoyed a steady stream of downloads worldwide.


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(11/16/12) - Once you have a baby boy, a circumcision is one of the first
decisions you will have to make. For the first time, the American Academy of
Pediatrics has adjusted its stance on the commonly performed procedure, saying
it may have health benefits, but that they are not recommending it for all baby
So, where does this leave parents who have to make that decision?
When Maria Moser gave birth to her first baby boy, she had a decision to make. "Most people don't think of circumcision until they have their own child. They just don't think of it."
After hours of research and discussion, Maria and her husband decided not to circumcise Jude or his little brother Blaize. "We're talking about putting them through a very painful procedure with little to no anesthesia for no reason other than cosmetics, really."
Maria says her sons should make the decision themselves.
In the 1980s, almost 80 percent of baby boys had their foreskin removed. Today, it's less than 55 percent. But Dr. Aaron Tobian, of Johns Hopkins, found this decline has increased health care costs by $2 billion.
He says studies show circumcision decreases risk for HIV, herpes, HPV, urinary tract infections and penile cancer. "The medical benefits of male circumcision are abundantly clear."
Critics argue much of the research on circumcision and STD's was conducted in Africa, among adult males.
Two other studies have also found circumcision might actually increase the risk for HIV. And, there are the risks, like the serious complications that occur in about one in every 500 procedures.
"Parents should discuss with their physicians both the risks and benefits of male circumcision and then make their own choice based on the best interest of their child," Tobian says.
Maria is happy with her decision, and believes her boys will be, too.
Last year, a circumcision ban made it on the ballot in San Francisco, but a judge ruled against including the measure.
In the United States, it is illegal to circumcise baby girls.
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Reacting to an interview George Zimmerman gave to Fox News Republican opinion host Sean Hannity, the mother of Trayvon Martin said that she simply does not believe his apology was sincere, given that he also professed to have no regrets about what he viewed as "God's plan" for Martin to die.
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Sybrina Fulton, Martin's mother, said that hearing Zimmerman claim to pray for them daily makes her feel "sad, because I just don't believe what he says. It hurts a great deal… I have a hard time accepting it because he also said that he doesn't regret anything he did that night. I don't think God would have him, in his plan, to murder and innocent child."
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Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, also known as SLS, is something I'm very allergic to. Any time I am contacted for a review for hair products, I'm up front about how any products I use on my hair MUST BE sulfate free. Wikipedia says Sodium Lauryl Sulfate is not to be confused with Sodium Laureth Sulfate. If I use SLS, my scalp burns, turns red, feels hot, feels like it's swelling, and flakes.
Sodium Laureth Sulfate, also known as SLES, I'm slightly less allergic to SLES than I am SLS. I had no idea that I was allergic to SLES, because I'd never tried it. I typically avoid all hair products with SLS. I look for and use sulfate-free products.
When I repeatedly ask a company if a product is sulfate-free and cruelty-free, and they repeatedly tell me yes, I believe them.
I made a big mistake in doing this with nunaat products!
From the beginning, I should have recognized that there was a problem with nunaat. They made me fill out a hair profile and then 'matched' me up with their Brazilian Keratin line. As I have fine, thin, naturally STRAIGHT hair and have never had a Brazilian blowout in my life, I couldn't understand this.
I tried their Brazilian line three times. Each time, I had a reaction. My scalp turned red, was unbearably itchy and hot. I had to wash in a different shampoo to ease the reaction.
I contacted nunaat about it and told them it was very similar to my reaction to SLS, only there was no flaking. They said they had no idea why I had a reaction, but offered to send me a different line.
They sent me their chocolat Special line. After receiving that shampoo, I looked at the ingredients and saw Sodium Laureth Sulfate. Because it contained the word Sulfate, I researched it. It's slightly less harsh than SLS. It makes sense that I would have a slightly less severe reaction, but it's essentially a very similar ingredient. I avoid Sulfate because not only am I allergic, it strips color from your hair!
This leaves me with quite a conundrum.
When contacted by nunaat, I specifically asked 2 things:
I was told Yes to both answers. I feel like I was lied to about 1 and I am left wondering if they are ACTUALLY cruelty-free. I had an allergic reaction 3 times because of this. That's not nice. To be clear, I do think the company has a responsibility to be honest with me. If the person who contacts me tells me that their products are Sulfate-Free and Cruelty-Free, I expect them to be. I don't expect to have an allergic reaction.
As such, I cannot recommend nunaat products.
How would you feel in this situation?
Edited to add: Tuesday, Sept. 19, 2012. This is the response I received back from nunaat.
Courtney, We are sorry that the products didn't work well with your hair, but most of the people who use them love the products. In regards to your other statement, we guarantee that our products are cruelty free. We have printed "not tested on animals" on our bottles and you are welcome to look at all of the marketing materials we have published on our products to determine what we say is valid about what our products do and what is in them.
I was disappointed with this response.
Products sent for consideration. All opinions are my own.
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How odd they gave you the Brazilian Keratin stuff. I don't know what the rest of thier range is, but I would automatically associated that with getting straighter hair which you don't need. That's odd. But yeah, very lazy of them that they sent you a product with sulphates in – you said sulphates, not SLS specifically, so that's a bit cheeky/lazy of them. You'd read a bottle in the store but maybe not one that someone had sent you and said was 'X' free already.
robynheartsslap Right. I'm an extra moisture type of girl, since I dye my hair.
I too avoid sulfates, both SLS and SLES, at all costs. I'm not allergic, but they give me acne around the hair line and I also have color treated and Keratin straightened hair. Few things annoy me more than a company telling me that something is sulfate free when it is not. I had it happen once too, but I caught it before I used the product. Also, it is interesting that they sent you a product using the term Brazilian Keratin that apparently was not sulfate free, since that term implies it is for people who have done the treatment, and those people absolutely must use sulfate free items! So, I suspect that product is just trying to get appeal from the name and not based on its real attributes, which is not good at all.
CarleenPruessCoulter Thanks for sharing this Carleen! I honestly know nothing about the Brazilian Keratin treatments because they're not suitable for my hair needs, so that's really good to know.
Phyrra Yeah, Brazilian Keratin has generally come to be associated with the Brazilian Blowout (aka Keratin hair straightening, Keratin treatment). People who have the Keratin treatments done, have to use sulfate free items to preserve the effects of it. But there are a lot of companies now using that term just to capitalize on it since it has become so popular. So they slap the term on any product aimed at smoothing. That practice makes it confusing for everyone, and I find it completely deceptive. There are ways to use Keratin on the hair that is not associated with the straightening treatment, but the best of those are not daily use products. Instead they are special treatments such as Joico K-Pak Reconstructor (which I believe is also sulfate free). My understanding has always been that using real Keratin protein every day can actually break down the hair, while small does of something like K-Pak once every other week can be really good. I suspect that most of the shampoos and such that have it, do so in such small amounts that it really is fairly meaningless. They can't actually put too much in or it will do more harm than good. So, it really is all just marketing tricks all around!
Phyrra Exactly. Companies see that BB creams are hot, so they put out a product and slap the words BB on it, even though it is nothing like a real BB cream. It is annoying since I still like some of those products, but I wish they would just state what they really are.
CarleenPruessCoulter That sucks so much that's like the 'tinted moisturizers' pretending to be BB creams, when they're not.
Yikes! Allergies are serious business! I hope your scalp recovers soon!!
KellyLoganGould Thanks Kelly!
oh man I'm sorry you had such a hard time, I reviewed the Brazilian Keratin line and loved it but I was mad that it said Sulfate free when clearly its not. That is just not right.
DarciChylik Thanks Darci!
Yikes! What's he point in not being truthful about it? As happened, you're only going to use the product, have a reaction and write truthfully about your experience. And they look like the assholes. They would have been much better off telling you the truth and having you skip out on their product. It just seems like in life in general these days truthful people are fewer and more far between. Thanks for being one of the truthful ones!
RebeccaRussell You're welcome Rebecca!
Ouch. I'm sorry you had a reaction and I hope your scalp is doing better. I wonder if the person you spoke with even knew anything about the product or if she told you what she thought you wanted to hear so you would agree to review the product. Thanks for bringing this to light. A company should never misrepresent their products for this very reason.
Hipstermama I agree. I think they should have just said 'sorry, we don't have any sulfate-free lines.'
Telling you that something doesn't have a certain ingredient in it, when it does; is dangerous and lawsuit worthy. I'm sorry this happened to you. I stopped using hair and bath products that contained sulfates, when a friend that was in cosmetology school told me to use a sulfate-free shampoo to maintain my hair color if I was going to color my hair at home. At the time, I had been struggling with having just moved to the midwest and seeing my once soft, shiny hair turn in to a dry broom. When I noticed how SOFT and shiny my hair became once I started using a sulfate free shampoo, I started buying other sulfate free products. My skin and hair went back to normal almost immediately. I do have to be careful when purchasing new things that claim to be sulfate-free, because I have run in to the same problem you have: Seeing the label state that it's sulfate-free, when it's really just Sodium Lauryl Sulfate free and still contains Sodium LaurEl Sulfate.
liltea Yep, when I first found Tigi Superstar shampoo, I was in heaven! No more dry hair!
I think it's totally unacceptable that this happened to you.. I had a smilirar issue when I explicitely asked a MAC salesperson if there were silicones in a concealer cause it breaks me out. She ensured me that it wasn't the case, but it broke me out very bad (tragic, since I wanted to conceal) and when I googled ingredients it turned out it was packed with silicones. That wasn't the only time I was blown off with a lie from someone that didn't have a clue, so I always check ingredients myself now.It's a shame that the person that provided you with the incorrect info didn't take more care in doing their job well, because things like this stain the whole company…
SilkeSquirrel I'm so sorry to hear about your experience that sucks!
SilkeSquirrel Ooooh, that's terrible SS. If she didn't know, she should have just said 'Sorry, no idea!'
I would be very angry. That is VERY irresponsible of them. Thank you for sharing, and while that chocolate shampoo sounds divine, I will most certainly be passing them by. I hope your scalp starts feeling better soon.
Elizabeth Christjansen Thanks Elizabeth. I wanted to share my experience because I don't want someone else to try their products, thinking they're sulfate free, when they're not.
It sounds like they need to retrain their marketing department. I'm sorry that happened to you. My skin is impervious to everything so I had no idea others could be so sensitive (makes sense tho, people can be allergic to anything) and that sounds really painful! I hope they find a way to make things right with you, at the least an apology would be appropriate.
thecakepie Thanks TheCakePie, I hope they do, too.
I think it's totally unresponsible behaviour from them!None should play with allergic stuff. What if the injuries you are suffering, caused by the sulfate, were even worse than what it actually does to you? What if you'd have to go to hospital or so?Thanks for sharing your experience and let us know which brand to avoid :)Not directly related but still about hair, if you are into natural stuff you could try sidr powder, it's really nice though it's not as convenient to use as a shampoo .
Lutrinae Thank you for the suggestion about sidr, I'll look into that. Right now I'm using the Marc Anthony Sulfate-free products and love them. They're also cruelty-free.
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I would be horribly upset if a company sent me products with an ingredient that I was allergic too after repeatedly telling them I was allergic to it. That is dangerous for one thing and very bad business.
ChristinaVonKlopka I was livid last night. I slept on it before I decided to write this post. I woke up still pissed off about this entire thing.
I am so allergic to so many things that I always research any new products I use now. It drives me especially mad that something will claim to be for sensitive skin and yet have artificial fragrance. Sulfates do bad things to my skin and scalp. I usually only use shampoo when my hair has build up, and I try very hard not to let it touch my skin. I have switched to a conditioner only routine, and am quite happy. I can go months without needing to use shampoo– my hair color lasts longer, and my hair is less greasy.
Corviddreams I wonder if i could do a conditioner only routine.
Phyrra Corviddreams – It is more challenging if you use a lot of traditional products that contain silicones. Unfortunately, some silicones are only really removed with SLS type products, which is why people get buildup on their hair. I am -cone free, which is how I get away with it. I have really long hair and I could bore you to tears with how I care for it, if you wish. =D
Corviddreams if you have time, can you send me an email? I would love to hear
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I have tried sulfate free shampoos and never found one that didn't either cause me to have huge cysts on my scalp, or make my hair freak out in bad way.
There is absolutely no excuse for being given the wrong answer to such a simple question- especially when an allergy issue is at stake! I have no patience for company representatives that can not be bothered to learn about the product they're promoting- after all, if they don't know much about them, how can they be so sure the product is suitable to my needs?As bad as sulfates can be to those who are allergic, interestingly enough, there's very little evidence that sulfates remove any more color than other shampoos. It's actually the water that lifts the cuticle and allows the color to "escape". I've actually spent a lot of time searching for peer-reviewed scientific literature that shows a link between hair color loss and SLS/SLES and have yet to find any. None at all. In frustration, I tweeted about it, and actually ended up in a conversation with reps from Paula Begoun (the "Cosmetics Cop") and Chemist's Corner, and both feel that the connection is unproven- the term "BS" was actually used If anyone has any published scientific literature on the subject, please let me know!Don't get me wrong, sulfates can irritate and dry the skin (and for the rare few that are allergic like you, it's definitely a no-go!) but in low concentrations and when used in rinse off products, I personally don't feel like they're the villains marketing agencies have made them out to be
OutInAPout I originally stopped using them because of how I was told they'd prolong color, then when I later tried to use them again, I had the flaky scalp and my stylist said I'd developed an allergy to them. Yuck. So I just avoided them (pretty easy to do these days).
You have every right to be upset and not recommend this brand. a) u had a bad reaction to it. but b) You were mislead AND they are abusing the whole Keratin label. I would too wonder how cruelty free this brand really is. I am very allergic to a specific ingredient in a lot of foundations and face creams, but sometimes I forget to ask. You DIDN'T forget and then were given the absolute wrong information. That's terrible. Someone in marketing needs to be re-trained.
PinkSith I wouldn't have tried it in the first place if I knew that SLES was basically the same thing as SLS, since I avoid products with sulfate.I'm glad that Carleen pointed out the Keratin labeling thing, because I had no idea on that front until she did.Thank you for your support *hug*
I would flip out if that happened to me. You told them you were allergic. They don't know to what degree, nor did they need to know. What if it had landed you in the hospital (or worse)? nunnat is unprofessional, irresponsible, and royally screwed up for doing this to you.
kissmysparkle Originally I just asked them: are the products sulfate-free? are they cruelty-free? I didn't mention my allergy, I just asked about those 2 things. They said yes and yes. After trying the first line and having a reaction, I said I must have had an allergic reaction to something in the keratin line. When I got the 2nd line, saw that Sulfate, I researched it against the more traditional SLS, and realized yeah I'm allergic to SLES, too.
I hope that this was just a case of an underinformed, new-to-the-job intern type. Someone who made a mistake, shouldn't have been made, but maybe it was their first week and they read the ingredients but visually skipped right over it, or maybe they verbally asked an officemate who gave them misinformation.And then I wake up and I'm Cynical Me and rainbows are not shooting out of my fingertips.
Sparklecrack Central I am on the cynical side at this point
I saw a review for this product…can't remember where…might have been yours~ But I remember thinking, wow, chocolate for the hair sounds incredible and when I saw the ingredients, i was also very turned off. I don't blame you at all for this review! I hate it when companies portray themselves as something they are not!
RobinAdler I think Moxie Reviews may have reviewed the chocolate recently.
I think given that you asked specifically they should have made absolutely sure prior to sending a product. It was irresponsible on their part no matter what the ultimate reason was for the misinformation.
EvilAngelSix I agree I can't help but be skeptical about their cruelty-free status.
I think the person who told you the wrong info was misinformed too. And that gets passed on to the consumer. They only parrot the info they are trained with. Yet it IS the responsibility of the company to provide truthful info all the way around. And it sounds like their 'match up' system isn't so scientific either. I'm sorry to hear that you had to endure that burning scalp issue! I would have been beside myself!!
KimberlyisHere Their match system seems crazy, in my opinion. And thanks, yes, it was awful I feel like everything is burning lately, between my face and my scalp
Oh man, that's not good. I have to believe this was a person who didn't know what they were talking about (that almost makes it worse) because they sent the products to you for consideration, meaning they knew you were in the business of PR. Anyone with half a brain would understand the importance of accuracy when one of their products were going to possibly be in the hands of someone who uses them and writes their opinion of said product. Therefore, I have to think that the person who gave you such detrimental misinformation was operating on less than half a brain. Have you tried Pureology? I color and am sensitive to all sulfates as well. The line is cruelty free and vegan. Love it. I hope you are recovering from your
(continued) bad reaction! Thanks for bringing this to our attention. -Olive
IvoryandOlive I've had Pureology used on me at my hair salon. It's a nice line. I Really don't know what the person was thinking who sent me the product. I just feel like she lied to me.
I feel like at the very best it means that the person communicating with you wasn't familiar with the products.. which is disturbing when you're dealing with people with allergies and can mean very serious consequences for them, as you already experienced.
Makeupfancy The person that reached out to me and asked for a review is a representative of the company. It's very strange that someone who works for the company would not be familiar with their products. The person has a company email address, so it wasn't through an outsourced PR firm.
EEEeek! I wouldn't be happy either. I'm allergic to Ammonium Laureth Sulfate (and all ammonia products in general) so I know how careful one has to be when shopping for hair care. I hope your next washing with a different shampoo helped your recovery!
mustbinsane Ug that is no fun!
Oh no that is terrible!!! Wow, in this situation, I would have done the same as you…inform your readers. I also was sent items from NuNaat (the same Keratin line). In the meantime, I had a VERY bad experience at a salon with my highlights (my hair is extremely dry and damaged now, so in a sense my hair type has changed). I went ahead and tried the NuNaat but did not have good results. Honestly, I am not having very good results with most shampoos and conditioners these days as my hair is in such poor condition. So, I just felt that it is not the time for me to test items that are not formulated for my current hair situation. I contacted NuNaat to tell them that I wasnt going to table the review for the time being because of my hair situation. Then they told me that was not the correct product line for my hair anyway? Strange! They offered to send me something different and I just declined. But now I do wonder, about my results from their products…maybe it wasnt just the bad condition of my hair. Sorry for the long tangent here…Between this and your peeling skin, you poor thing! Oh, I do second the recommendation for Pureology. It is amazing. Since my hair disaster, Pureology and Redken are some of the only brands that I can use on my poor hair right now. Has the company seen this post?
pammyblogbeauty I have no idea if the company has seen the post Pammy. I'm so sorry for your hair What I'm using on my hair right now is the Black 15 in 1 Miracle Spray and the Marc Anthony Oil of Morocco line.
pammyblogbeauty I did email the company the post link. Haven't heard anything back.
That's really frustrating – I would also be upset!If you're looking for a good sulfate – free shampoo, I really like Trader Joe's Nourish line of shampoo & conditioner. I just checked the label of the shampoo, and waaaay down near the end there's something called olefin sufonate, but it's definitely SLS and SLES free. Cheap, too!
Emi at Project Swatch Thanks for the rec! I really love the Marc Anthony stuff I have, which is cruelty-free and sulfate-free.
I found it difficult to get a straight answer from nuNaat as well, when I did a review last fall. In the end, they told me the products and ingredients were cruelty free, but I got a bad vibe from their cagey attitude. Brushed it off, but now I wish I would have dug a little deeper. I'm glad that you're posting about this!
amogge That's horrid, too See, I really wonder about their CF status when they act like this.
Unbelievable!!! And quite honestly, I believe I was lied to as well! When I filled out the hair profile, I actually requested this collection (not the Karite Special) and was told that this one is on the discontinued list (off the record) yet…'HAIR' it is…to give you an allergic reaction!!!
SapphireKharyzma That's crazy and awful
yikes… I have the keratin to review here and idk if I want to do it now lol I have enough hair issues
blushingnoir doh!
You did the right thing! You shared your actual experience ~people have different reactions to ingredients. What works for some may not for others. The person who gave you the answer may not be fully knowledgeable about the product, which in no way not an excuse if you are promoting or representing the company.
Kath TheFabZilla That's what I really don't understand. How can she work directly for the company but just be so blatantly wrong? I feel like either she lied to me, or she was lied to and then misinformed me. Any way you look at it, it's awful.
That's terrible! It is so frustrating trying to find sulphate products as it is without being lied to and misled. Sheesh!
perilouslypale I've had good experiences finding sulfate-free products, thankfully!
Hmm… after reading this review and the comments below, I'd hesitate to trust this company as well.
UneLuneBleue I don't know if it's intentional or unintentional, but I definitely feel lied to
I would feel exactly the same as you. When I ask a company a question, I believe it is their responsibility to answer me honestly and not tell me what they think I want to hear.
Phyrra, this is actually very upsetting and I would feel exactly as you do. If a person is *allergic to something, that should *never be taken lightly, whether or not it has to do with their skin, scalp, or something they ingest, etc. Imagine the reaction and seriousness of someone with a shellfish allergy or peanut allergy ingesting these foods. How could a company send you a product that you are allergic to? -That's my question. They truly couldn't be expecting a stellar review. Seriously. What were they thinking? Hmm. Well. Possibly they didn't think this one through. So sorry to hear that you were not given the full truth, and that you had a reaction.
As a mom of a child with allergies (food & environmental) – I actively research products before using them with him. If I contact a company with questions, I expect honest answers to my direct questions. I think there is a misconception that allergies are an inconvenience & nothing more serious than that. That couldn't be further from the truth! I would be just as upset as you are. I certainly won't be trusting this company based on your experience.
lov2read68 I'm disappointed by the company's response.
Sorry to hear about this experience. In addition to your physical discomfort, you had to deal with a company misrepresenting its products. Based on what seems to be a useless "matching" system and other peoples' negative comments due to their experiences, this company just seems cagey. PASS!
misfitgirlie Their response about this issue was less than stellar, too.
I am sO sorry for your experience. I'm So glad you posted this review to share. I was contacted by them also, I'm glad I passed. I completely agree with you. People will be glad to see thi review as I'm sure it will change minds for those thinking of trying this company!
janelle06 The company was more concerned with me casting doubt on their cruelty-free claim than the fact that they told me the products were sulfate-free when they clearly are not.
Wow. Their response really astounds me. Even if I had an interest in buying from them before this, I wouldn't based solely on their response to your experience. They just really don't give a crap, do they?
Either lied to, or spoke to a very ignorant rep of the company. Either way, it's inexcusable. Thanks for the article and heads up on them.
Hiya Courtney (thats my name too!) I just wanted you to know it is extremely unlikely that a small company like that would even have the funds to conduct animal testing. Its usually only done by big companies like p&g when they need to determine if a new technology is safe. Also every skin care and cosmetic ingredient was at some point tested on animals, some of them were just tested a long time ago. So when you think of it no product is really cruelty free. You might like to read a site called the beauty brains its has all the science behind cosmetics.


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