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Taylor bears the load
Taylor bears the load
Running back impresses teammates with workhorse effort in Vikings debut
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The Vikings' coaches told Chester Taylor they were going to run the ball Monday night at Washington, and they were true to their word.
The game plan didn't call for 31 carries, but after four seasons as Jamal Lewis' backup in Baltimore, Taylor isn't about to complain about being overworked.
"I've been waiting to be the main guy, basically, and just coming out here and helping my team any way I can to win a ballgame," he said. "It pays to be patient, and that's what I was."
Taylor saved his best for last in the 19-16 victory over the Redskins, gaining 34 of his 88 yards in the fourth quarter, including 26 on the drive that set up Ryan Longwell's game-winning, 31-yard field goal with one minute remaining.
Taylor's 2.8-yard average was subpar by NFL standards, and the running game still is a work in progress, but the effort was appreciated by his teammates.
Center Matt Birk: "Not the 31 carries so much but just how hard he ran. There were a lot of times when his second effort was huge. He moved the chains. He was running hard. You can appreciate that as an offensive lineman. He's a guy you enjoy blocking for."
Quarterback Brad Johnson: "It's hard to do that. It just takes a beating on your body. What he does a great job of is he hits the hole hard. He breaks initial contact. It's usually the second or third guy who tackles him. He's very slippery, whether it's running the ball or catching it and making a guy miss."
Fullback Tony Richardson: "I think it hopefully answers a few of the questions about him. Is he a guy that can carry the load? I think he showed that he could. Now he still has to show he can do it for 16 games. I think he can."
Not surprisingly, so does Taylor, who set a Vikings opening-game record for carries and fell just two short of the team single-game record.
The 31 rushes were a career high for Taylor, who had a 25-carry game against the New York Giants in 2004 for the Ravens. Taylor said he appreciated the way coach Brad Childress stayed with the run on a night when the yards were tough to come by.
"We knew that was how it would be throughout the game," Taylor said. "We had to just keep grinding on, and coach Childress stuck with it and we wore them down in the fourth quarter. They're a great defense, but we had to wear them down, and that's what we did."
That's a twist on recent seasons for the Vikings, whose previous response to falling behind early on the road was to shift into an all-out passing mode that often made a bad situation worse.
Monday night was a sign that, for this team this season, things might be different.
"Just given that we kept on running it gave us a chance to stay balanced," Birk said. "The coaches didn't panic; the players didn't panic. We just stayed with the game plan, and in the fourth quarter things finally started to work."
That's basically the same game plan the Vikings used to post road wins over the Giants, Green Bay and Detroit during the second half of last season, after Johnson replaced injured Daunte Culpepper.
The formula worked well enough for the Vikings to win seven of their final nine games, and Johnson, for one, is a true believer.
"If you get down early and start getting into a passing frenzy, you're in trouble," he said. "If you look at the history of the game, if you start throwing 36, 37 times, no matter who you are, no matter what quarterback or what team, high school or college, you're probably going to lose. If you're coming from behind, you're probably going to turn the ball over. If you're not turning the ball over, you've got a good chance of winning."
Taylor could be in for another busy day Sunday against a Carolina defense that ranks last in the NFL against the run after being trampled for 252 yards in a 20-6 loss to Atlanta and will be playing without middle linebacker Dan Morgan, who has a concussion.
Taylor, though, says he expects to get the Panthers' best shot.
"They're picked to go to the NFC championship this year," he said. "They had kind of a rough game last week, but we're not going to take them lightly at all. We know they're a great defense. We just have to bring our A game with us."
And if Plan A is to keep giving the ball to Taylor, he and his blockers said he will be ready.
"Thirty-one carries are a lot, but he's a workhorse," tight end Jim Kleinsasser said. "He can handle it."
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FoxSports Power rankings stated that Chester Taylor may lead the league in rushing this year because of the offensive line.
We will see how the offense does in week 2 and hope this is a true prophecy.
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I agree that he looked more elusive than I thought he would...I noticed that several times throughout the game.
He looked a lot quicker than I thought he would as well...and that bodes well for our offensive game plan in the long haul.
Solid defense and a strong solid running game...the formula for success!!!BANNED OR DEAD...I'LL TAKE EITHER ONE
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He has more moves than I would have given him credit for.
I'm still a long way from believing he could be an "elite" RB though i.e. L. Tomlinson.
But then again, I have Lamont Jordan on my Fantasy team and he got exactly 20 yards in his first game so who am I to judge. :-"Puntalee-wuntalee, yesiree-bob!"
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i think he'll do just fine.. i've been saying it all offseason.
i too was impressed with his effort, a lot of the plays were dead plays then he pushed another yard or so, i like his work ethic.
Taylor's stats will be skewed the first 3 weeks, redskins, panthers, bears, 3 very talented defenses, dont expect him to do anything great ni those game, but count on him being good.
P.s. tarkenator: its normally not bright to start a RB, no matter how good, if his OL cant block at all (what, 10 sacks?)
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My only other choice was T.J. Duckett.
Freakin Automated Draft. >"Puntalee-wuntalee, yesiree-bob!"
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That's a twist on recent seasons for the Vikings, whose previous response to falling behind early on the road was to shift into an all-out passing mode that often made a bad situation worse.
Monday night was a sign that, for this team this season, things might be different.
"Just given that we kept on running it gave us a chance to stay balanced," Birk said. "The coaches didn't panic; the players didn't panic. We just stayed with the game plan, and in the fourth quarter things finally started to work."
We don't have to put a lot of pressure on the passing game.
Our D needs to keep improving on a weekly basis.
Poised QB and Poised Coaches = Wins.
The performance by Taylor is a huge confidence builder for our team.
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Im very pleased with how Chester did.. Of course you all know he did well not only handling himself with 31 carries.. But what he did with some of those carries was even more impressive..
He found a small gap and instantly had 2 defenders on his back but carried them for 2-3 extra yards.. Imagine when this line gels and he can get to full speed.. You won't be able to take him down!
Hopefully next week we will actually see this new found running game we have again and continue to play some smash mouth ball baby!
One Love
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Good news, Taylor looked better then most of us thought he would (hats off to Childress for this).
Bad news, the most expensive OLine in the history of the NFL sucks with the running game IMO. They are decent with the pass protection though.
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"CCthebest" wrote:
Good news, Taylor looked better then most of us thought he would (hats off to Childress for this).
Bad news, the most expensive OLine in the history of the NFL sucks with the running game IMO. They are decent with the pass protection though.
I wouldn't go as far as saying they suck..
Big Mac- Playing extremely well
Hutch- New.. Somewhat gelling.. Still best lineman we got though
Birk- First game back.. Give some time to get his feet under him more
Hicks- New.. Fairly good.. Wait for him to prove himself more
Johnson- Fairly new to RT.. 2nd year player.. Needs a bit more time at the position
Just let the line gel and we will have a top 5 line soon!
One Love
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i dont know carbon fibre, but if it has similiar properties to acrylic the material does not absorb sound waves like maple does, therfore it compresses the air and projects more sound. it will have better resonance in term of sustain but not necessarily good tone or the desired tone.
what makes maple desirable is the warm tone. the shell absorbs,i believe low frequencies and projects a more controlled higher, clear tone. less resonance and more punch.
it can depend greatly on your preference to tuning. im moreso into muted and flat<basically shitty> tuning by default of not understanding what acrylic drums are best suited for. ideally acylic drums<this may apply to carbon fibre>are best utilized with the thinnest head possibly, like the way bonham tuned his drums, thin heads,loose tuning. that sound may not be the best for a high paced metal band, a blast would become a wall of resonance, a drumroll becomes a solid continous sound,especially if you play a show in a brick room or some place that doesnt absorb well. so higher tempos=less definition. on the otherhand it would be great for slower music,greater dynamics range, many tonal qualities to each drum<rimshots, headbending,hitting different areas of the surface,controlling the sticking range etc>
alot of metal drummers go for the muted, but good tone of lets say maple,beech and such. the thing about muting is no matter where or how you hit the drum it usually sounds the same, muting in essence narrows dynamics, this is not a bad thing, metal overlooks alot of the subtlety of jazz or classical percussion<tympanies come to mind>even, because it obviously has to deal with a higher volume,distrortion where such effects will be lost. muted is valued for distinctly audible rudiment playing and high definition for fast playing, it follows the sound of triggers and mixes well with the attack and punch of the bassnotes.
im still trying to understand the various qualities of wood, alot of it is like preferences for fine wine, its an eye of the beholder/aquired taste type of thing. im not big on custom drums but i went to a custom shop locally that makes birch drumsets<Eames> and i was reduced to a state of drooling over 2-3k drumsets that sound so amazing.
im moreso in the camp of buying decently priced gear and treating it like gold now that ive given the subject much thought. a 600$ tama,reconfigured hardware if needs be,maybe a custom snare,good heads changed frequently, a strong understanding of the tone i want will get the job done cheaper.
its way too against my principles to own a 3k drumset let along another grand or two in hardware and cymbals. ive had dudes fly face first into kits ive owned, seen entire cages filled with cymbal trees fall forward, have gotten some asshats mixed drink all over my cymbals and shells,been ripped off before. maybe if i played jazz to old fuckers who eat dinner and behave themselves id own some serious drums. i could really get into dynamic approaches showing many tonal qualities of a drumset in a setting where people will notice and appreciate it. with metal half the people are literally slamming each other to the sound of raw aggression, its moreso what you play than the way in which the stuff is played.
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Now work in the following Pattern: 1st row and every row- * k 1, p 1, repeat from * across the row. Repeat row 1 until the mitten measures 2 ½ inches above the ribbing.
1st dec: K 1, * k 2 tog, k 3, repeat from * across the row. Purl across the next row.
2nd dec.: K 1, * k 2 tog, k 2, repeat from * across the row. Purl across the next row.
3rd dec: K 1, * k 2 tog, k 1, repeat from * across the row. Purl 2 sts together across the next row. Break the yarn leaving 10 inches. Thread a darning needle and draw through all the sts and fasten tight on the wrong side. Sew up the side of the mitten.
Trim with the ribbon through the beading row and tie a bow.
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T204 Set Overview
T204's (or, "Ramlys") were issued in 1909 by the Mentor Co. of Boston with their Ramly and T.T.T. Turkish cigarettes. The cards display photographic portraits surrounded by a filigree-like gold design that was probably meant to look 'Turkish'. They're also embossed, meaning some of the card surface is raised. Although most card collectors don't actively pursue T204's because of their scarcity and prices, they're widely known and admired throughout the hobby.
The Players
There are 121 cards in the set, with a good representative overview of major leaguers from 1909. 15 players were later inducted into the Hall of Fame, including Johnson, Plank, Burkett, Keeler, Tinker, Evers, Chance and 8 others. Notable stars of the day like Mathewson, Cobb, Young, and Lajoie were omitted for unknown reasons. None of the 121 cards is appreciably scarcer than any of the others, but a few like Pelty (the only Jewish player in the set) and Cicotte (famed for his Black Sox participation) are in greater demand than typical commons. There are 4 non-players included in T204: Frank Bancroft, Cincinnati manager in 1902; Tim Murnane, a prominent Boston baseball promoter and President of the N.E. League; Jimmy McAleer, manager of the Browns; and Clark Griffith, Cincinnati's manager in 1909 and a future HOFer. Murnane likely got in because of his New England connection, while Griffith and McAleer were popular figures of the day. Bancroft is an oddity, but there's a good explanation for his inclusion - see the info below on the Worcester, MA angle for square-bordered cards.
The Teams
13 of the 16 major league teams are represented; Pittsburgh, Philadelphia NL, and Chicago AL have no players. The two Boston teams are, not surprisingly, the best represented - they have a combined 23 players (19%) of the total.
The Photos
Photos used for the T204 set were taken at the Carl Horner Studios in downtown Boston, sometimes several seasons prior to 1909. Horner was the de facto official photographer for major league baseball for more than a decade and his photographs were used in in many sets of the same era. One of his most famous photographs is of Eddie Plank, the same one used in T206.
The April 2007 Mastro Auction contained more than 40 Horner cabinets, several showing the same photos used for T204 cards. The cabinets demonstrate that, in many cases, T204 photos were altered to remove team designations from the uniforms. Here are cabinets and corresponding cards for several players: Arrelanes, Bates, Bowerman, Bresnahan, Donahue, Jones, Kleinow, Niles, Sweeney, Lush, Konetchy, Sheckard.
A few cards have an image of a different player than intended.
- Roy Hartzell is actually Topsy Hartsel.
- Bill O'Hara is actually Tom O'Hara.
- The images of Harry Howell and Jack Powell are reversed.
- Coakley has a white scratch to the left of the player's face. This is consistent on all of his cards because it was on the photographic plate.
- Wid Conroy, T204 brown-noser
- Walter Johnson, masked bandit
T.T.T. Brand
T204's can also be found with a T.T.T. advertising back. Copies of these cards are much scarcer than those with the Ramly back. Only about half of the players have been found with a T.T.T. back, so it's unlikely that a full set is possible.
Square Bordered cards
There are 6 blank-backed square-bordered Ramly cards in addition to the regular set that were likely either proofs or some type of promotional issue. They are exceptionally rare and can be roughly estimated at 10 times the value of "normal" Ramlys. The six shown are Anderson, Bancroft, Bransfield, Burkett, Dinneen, and Moran. Along with Howard (sometimes mistakenly cited as having a square border card), these are the only players in the set that have their first names on their cards. All six had a connection with Worcester, MA where the factory was that issued the cards, and this is probably why they were included in the square-border group. Bancroft, Bransfield, and Moran were born close by, Burkett managed the Worcester team, Dinneen played for several years in Boston, and Anderson was a native Worcester-ite.
Prices for T204's in 2011 can only be described as "all over the place". Some higher grade cards (EX and better) have recently sold for record amounts, but cards in lesser grades have been at levels seen 5 years ago. In other words, the market is soft unless you have something unusual. I'd contend that T204's are under-valued, but unless demand picks up, they're likely to stay at the same prices for a while. VG commons are $150 or so right now.
Other T204 Info
Classic Baseball Cards : The Golden Years, 1886-1956 by Frank Slocum, published in 1990, has beautiful, full color pictures of the entire T204 set and many others. This book is long out of print, but used copies can sometimes be found on eBay (search on "Slocum baseball") or on Amazon.
Some T204's also exist with blank backs and are often incorrectly referred to as "proofs" (they're actually printing mistakes). These are also scarce, but the prices are usually not much higher than for other T204's.
17 player names (14% of the set) in T204 are misspelled : Arrelanes (should be Arellanes), Byrnes (Byrne), Cicolte (Cicotte), Dineen (Dinneen), Elberfield (Elberfeld), Hoblitzell (Hoblitzel), Hummell (Hummel), Kargar (Karger), Kleinon (Kleinow), Konetchey (Konetchy), Loebert (Lobert), Nichols (Nicholls), O'Hare (O'Hara), Ruelbach (Reulbach), Schekard (Sheckard), Stienfeldt (Steinfeldt), and Unclane (Unglaub).


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35Here Are The Top 20 Most Hated Celebs In Hollywood…And Chris Brown Isn't Even In The Top 5
Chris Brown is a hated celebrity but apparently not as much as Anne Hathaway (which James Franco totally gets, btw). Star magazine released their super scientific list of top 20 most hated Hollywood celebrities. Weirdly Jay Leno is more hated than Chris Brown, which is making me laugh really hard. Here's the stupid list:
20. Chris Brown
19. Jesse James
18. Taylor Swift
17. Shia LaBeouf
16. Lindsay Lohan
15. Angelina Jolie
14. Jay Leno
13. Ashton Kutcher
12. LeAnn Rimes
10 and 11. Kris Jenner and Kim Kardashian
9. Anne Hathaway
8. Justin Bieber
7. Madonna
6. Matt Lauer
5. Katherine Heigl
4. John Mayer
3. Jennifer Lopez
2. Kristen Stewart
1. Gwyneth Paltrow
This is a pretty good list. I'm shocked to see that Kanye West isn't on here. I love him but I thought he was one of the most hated people around. I'm not sure if he's psyched or pissed not to be included. I also didn't realize that people hated Matt Lauer this much. Damn. Too bad this poll was taken after Justin Bieber's idiotic Anne Frank statement or I'm sure he would be higher up. Kristen Stewart now has the dubious honor of being one of the most hated and least attractive female celebrities. Hey, good for her! At least she's good at stuff!
Who is your ultimate most hated celebrity?
April 16, 2013 at 4:30 am by Catherine St. Ives
5Today in Crazy Town: Jesse James Is Engaged
I thought it was over. I honestly thought it was over. I thought that after Jesse James the gross asshole that was married to Sandra Bullock and cheated on her, broke up with Kat Von D it would all be over. Jesse James would fade into obscurity, taking his evil ways with him, but no. This guy just won't quit.
He's engaged. He's been dating this drag racer, Alexis DeJoria, since September, and they've been "bonding over their love of motor racing," according to a source. Now, just two months later, they've decided to dedicate the rest of their lives to one another. You know, until Jesse bones some other chick.
But ok, listen. This Alexis DeJoria lady? She's not too big in the drag racing scene yet, but you know who her dad is? John Paul DeJoria, co-founder of Paul Mitchell hair products. So Alexis is going to be loaded one day. And I'm not usually a cynic, but do you think that might have something to do with Jesse's proposal?
Can't wait to see you walk down the aisle, Jesse! Don't fly that Nazi flag too high at the ceremony!
November 24, 2012 at 3:00 pm by Emily
4Quotables: Jesse James is Still Talking About Cheating on Sandra Bullock
"I think I've paid the price and then some, you know? I don't know anybody anywhere that's had to endure what I had to endure for basically infidelity. It's just the nature of my life. People always will want me sainted one minute, and strung up the next. I stood up like a man and admitted my wrongs and what I did and all that did is make every shit tabloid everywhere across the world come after me even harder. I'm strong. I can take it. Everybody can take cheap shots and say I'm a horrible dad, and that I'm a Nazi, and all this other bullshit. Give me all you got. Because you know what? I know inside what kind of a person I am. I know I'm an awesome dad. I'm devoted to my work. And I work hard to take care of my family."
Ugh, can you believe that Jesse James is still blasting this kind of garbage all over the place? I mean, yeah, he's right that every publication known to man picked up on the story and ran with it, but continually defending yourself because it's only "basically infidelity"? How cheap are you, dude?! Also, I don't think I've ever seen someone ever want him "sainted." I mean, what does that even mean? All I know is that this is a guy who cheated on one of the classiest ladies in Hollywood and then went and cheated on the trashiest ladies in Hollywood. I hardly consider that to be a candidate for sainthood, you know?
April 9, 2012 at 2:30 pm by Sarah
8Jesse James: Still A Douchebag?
It's been several months since we last spoke of Jesse James, former husband of Sandra Bullock, serial cheater, racist asshole, and author. The last time we spoke about this dick of all trades was when he was in a relationship with Kat Von D, which ended after he cheated on her with at least 19 women. That was last November, and I haven't really heard all that much about him since.
Now we know that Jesse is going to appear on a Discovery Channel special called Jesse James: Outlaw Garage about rebuilding a motorcycle, and thankfully, he's promoting it:
On being pretty widely hated: "I'm not afraid of shit. Everyone can say whatever they want about me and call me whatever, but guess what? I'm still standing."
On being a better person: "I think I'm in a pretty awesome place in life," James said. "In light of everything that's happened, I think I came out of it a better dad and a better person while living and working in a place that's like heaven to me."
On his Discovery Channel Special: "There's a little bit of personal life [in Outlaw] with the kids and kind of explaining where I am now," James said. "I hate the words reality TV because I think this is a refreshing change because none of it is scripted—there's no made-up drama."
So what do we think? Has Jesse really become a better person? I'm not too sure of that. I think there are some things you can never really come back from, like breaking Sandra Bullock's heart and being a white supremacist, stuff like that. There are definitely more popular assholes to hate right now, but I don't ever see Jesse James being seen in any sort of positive light, do you?
April 6, 2012 at 5:30 am by Emily
9Jesse James Cheated on Kat Von D with How Many Girls?
19. 19 girls. It blows my mind that Jesse James can land any girls at all, let alone 19. Add on the fact that Jesse landed 19 girls within one year while also in a relationship, and consider me flabbergasted.
Would you like to hear something touching though? Despite everything, Kat Von D still believes in true love …
Never have I felt so strong about True Love, than I do today. I believe in Love more than anything else, and more than ever before.
Today I encountered the 19th girl to add to the list of people Jesse cheated on me with during this last year.
I kept going back and forth in my mind as to what the best way would be for me to release and let go of any residual feelings remaining from that toxic relationship. All of this may sound petty or immature to some, but I assure you this is coming from a place of pure honesty and love.
There was a time when I was confident and excited at proving the world wrong, because I believed so deeply in people's ability to change for the better. Although this was not a primary purpose in the relationship, I did feel like it would be a positive thing for those who judged Jesse solely based on what they read in tabloids, to see that change is always possible – even in the people who seem hopeless.
I still believe that, even if that change never occurs inside of him - because I see proof of change everyday – in others, and in myself.
November 14, 2011 at 2:30 pm by Emily
1Oh, So I Guess Jesse James Really Did Cheat on Kat Von D
Way back when this lovely couple broke up the first time, I told you guys this story about how Jesse cheated on Kat, and that's what caused the break up. It was a long shot, I know, and the story did sound a little shady, but it looks like Jesse really was cheating. You know how we know with such certainty? Because Kat Von D said so herself!
And there you have it. Are you shocked? Appalled? Has this changed your opinion of Jesse James (haha, of course not, Kat is no Sandy B!)? Or are you just content to never hear about these two ever again?


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First point I want to make is that draft grades this early are absolutely absurd. Its about as accurate as Mock Drafts usually are. If you want to have a fun conversation about the relevance of mock drafts just get our own Mallard Davis going!
Now that I got that disclaimer out of the way I want to say that the draft grades I have been reading and hearing towards this year's draft (Realistically every year immediately after the draft) for the Raiders have really annoyed me. All these so called professionals are grading the Raiders like they had full drafts to work with. Its absurd to grade this year's Raiders draft as if they had first and second round picks when they did not.
The average grade that I have seen is a C grade or lower and I just find that so frustrating. I try to ignore anti-Raider bias and think of it as if it doesn't exist (TRY is the key word) but when things like this come up its really hard to come to a different conclusion.
I mean seriously, we got a possible immediate starter on the line with Tony Bergstrom which also was a position of need with the very last pick of the 3rd round. That pick essentially is a 4th rounder so getting a possible starter on the line is a great pick that late. Then we addressed another position of need with quality depth and somebody who graded highly by most pre draft ratings with Miles Burris. Then we got a player who many are calling one of the major sleepers in the draft with Crawford from Penn State.That is not even mentioning the possible steal of the draft with Juron Criner out of AZ.
Those picks alone are all solid and all have the potential to start games for us eventually. What more could we have done with what we had to work with? We had 6 picks in the draft and we managed to get 3 or 4 possible eventual starters. That is impressive to me. It is not a C draft to me. I am not paid to give my 2 cents on sports so maybe I am the ignorant one though. All I know is that if 50% of the players that you drafted have a real chance to be starters within a couple years then your draft was not a dud, which is exactly what NFL.com once again would have you believe.
I am biased of course as most of you already know. I am one of the most annoyingly optimistic homers on this site, but does that make me wrong on this? Considering the draft picks we had to work with I simply can not be OK with the Raiders being paraded out like we screwed the pooch on this draft. We did almost as good as we could have, minus a nose tackle being included.
To have the Raiders be one of the teams mentioned in the title of an article like "Draft duds? Saints, Rams, Raiders among poorly graded teams"" after this draft is just wrong to me. You can't just look at the players that were taken and not take into account what round they were taken in. I am more mad about being included in a title like that than I am about the C grade itself though. We shouldn't even be in the article, let alone in the title of it.
Luckily, draft grades right now are simply pure speculation! We will see whose draft was really a dud in a few years, and I would bet that the Raiders 2012 draft will not be on that list.


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First off I want to say for all the Corey Brewer haters he made a heck of a play with the offensive put back but then missed the free throw but the Wolves arnt in that position without Brews put back.
Next Technical Fouls...
I want to know how referees can give Darko and Pek technical fouls.
If they give them a tech for just what they yell at the refs that is awful. If you cant speak Serbian how do you know hes not yelling "I love ice cream"! or "I left the water running at home"! Refs should not be allowed to call technical fouls based on that reason if you dont know the language then you cant give them a T for yelling.
I wish somebody on the Wolves will tell Pek to yell one of those at the refs on purpose and see if he gets a T haha.


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Updated 5:26pm Monday 6th January 2014 in Penarth sport
A COGAN man has vowed to 'tri' his best after qualifying for the Long Distance Triathlon European Championships.
Lawrence Cronk, 27, qualified to represent Great Britain in the 25-29 age group category after taking part in Ironman Wales in September last year.
Lawrence, of Charlotte Street, finished the 2.4 mile swim, a 112 mile bike ride and a 26.2 mile run in 11 and a half hours, but is aiming to complete the European Championships in under 10 hours.
"I had done a lot of running races and cycling but had never done a triathlon before," he said.
"I ended up 153 out of 1600 and 18th in my age group category."
As he was in a certain percentage of his age category he was able to qualify to represent Great Britain to take part in the Long Distance Triathlon European Championships in Holland in September this year.
Lawrence, who works as a personal trainer at Penarth Leisure Centre, added that he was aiming to complete the swim in one hour, the bike in five hours and the run in three and a half hours, with half an hour spent in transition.
"I'm really excited about it and I can't wait," he said.
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In the past month, several news outlets have reported on recent comments allegedly made by actress Thandie Newton regarding race and the entertainment industry.
Reading the quotes that Newton is to have supposedly given-- and based upon the amount of time she's been a part of the entertainment industry-- I must admit that these statements are a bit surprising.
I'm not exactly sure when these statements were made, and I wasn't able to locate an on-line link to the original interview, but . . .
The Belfast Telegraph, quoting an interview Newton gave to Pride Magazine, reported on 10/15/2011 that Newton is not happy that she hasn't been on the cover of Vogue:
However, the star can't understand why Vogue is so against extending the range of models on its front page.
"Don't get me started on black people being on the cover on big magazines. It's so preposterous. I mean, I've been on the cover of Harper's Bazaar four times; I've been on the cover of InStyle four times, but Vogue, not once," she explained in an interview with Pride magazine.
"And people say to me, I mean literally, people have said to me, 'What have you got against Vogue that you don't want to be on their cover?' And I just laugh."
"They [Vogue] don't feel the need to represent because it doesn't make any sense to them. It's just baffling to me, but as usual America will dictate the ways things go and a magazine like Vogue will just follow America," she said. "But it's like, don't you want to trail blaze?"
I don't know what Newton's been told, but I think her multiple covers on Harper's Bazaar and InStyle is more than most black actresses can claim to have accomplished. In my opinion, Newton should be satisfied with all that she's been able to do so far, because there are many white actresses who haven't even made the cover of Vogue, let alone a black one. I wish she would ask some of her black counterparts to name the magazines that they've been fortunate to grace the covers of. I'm quite sure there would be a whole lot of side-eye action coming her way after posing that question.
Australian website The Age, quoting the same Pride Magazine interview, on 10/12/2011 also reported this month that Newton told a story about being offended when someone dared to compare her to actress Kate Winslet:
"I remember this guy came up to me once, an actor whose name I won't mention, but a black British actor came up and said, 'Congratulations Thandie, you've done really well, although you know if you had been Kate Winslet your life would have been very different,' meaning that if I'd been white," she explained in an interview with Pride magazine.
"I mean I don't know what he was trying to say. And I just thought 'wow.'"
"Wow" is the word alright. As in, "Wow. I can't believe she didn't already know that."
Newton supposedly continued her recounting of the experience with the following:
Thandie looked to Michael Jackson for inspiration as a youngster.
The stunning star says the late music icon made her feel accepted.
"I think it's really important for young people's sense of self, to feel mirrored and represented. I think it's crucial," she said. "When I was a kid I would have to send off for my Michael Jackson posters. He was everything. He was all there was.
"I'd listen to some Thriller with my massive earphones plugged into the stereo; I would just spend all afternoon listening to that album over and over again. I was pretty cut off, it wasn't like I was living in London, so I was really disconnected from any black community."
There's no need for me to comment on that last part. I think that pretty much says it all.
What do you say? Is Thandie Newton right to stand up for herself? Or should she go sit down somewhere?
lauren | January 5, 2013 4:35 PM
For me, Thandie Newton possesses an icy presence that's always there in any role she plays. While it's true she hasn't got rich and layered roles like Ms Winslet in The Reader for instance... I can't say whether she is as good as Kate but Kate reads "warmer" in spirit.
Kel | January 5, 2013 4:12 PM
Thandie Newton is okay as an actress, but not in the same league as that of Kate Winslet, Nicole Kidman, or many of the other actresses who grace the covers of Vogue. Does she face racism? I am sure she does. However, she seems to have a chip on her shoulder. She made some inappropriate comments when she did not get the role in Charlie's Angels that went to Lucy Liu.
Jug | October 28, 2011 4:15 AM
Sometimes I respond directly to your comment, and sometimes I'm expressing my thoughts in general. Trust me, when I'm talking about you, you will know
misha | October 27, 2011 9:57 AM
"Misha, why do you always feel I'm referring to you?"
Umm, perhaps because you respond to my posts? LOL I know with your previous posts, you were specifically responding to something I said. And yes, sometimes I think you are passive aggressive. But whatever. You know if I have a problem with something you or anyone has said, I ain't go no problem saying so. ;)
Nic | October 27, 2011 8:54 AM
What an ignorant view:
"In my opinion, Newton should be satisfied with all that she's been able to do so far, because there are many white actresses who haven't even made the cover of Vogue, let alone a black one. "
Newton is much better than your average actress and she should strive to make the most of what she's got. Maybe that's the difference between being good and being great. To be great means that you are not easily satisfied. If she had that view she would not have reached the point she is now. And by all means she should strive to push herself forward.
Your view is also racist:
"there are many white actresses who haven't even made the cover of Vogue, let alone a black one."
what is that suppose to mean? that blacks are only second rate?
To put this article under Rant is unfair. Thandie Newton has a very valid point.
Jug | October 27, 2011 8:28 AM
And Misha, I'm genuinely saying that. Per our past interactions, it seems like you think I try to be passive aggressive & coy, cute even. I don't do that. I direct my comments pointedly when need be, and at other times, MOST times, I'm trying to just have a discussion. Nothing more.
Until next talk :-D
Jug | October 27, 2011 8:20 AM
Misha, why do you always feel I'm referring to you? If I explain my position, you always think I'm talking about you.
Not everything is directed at you. Sometimes a discussion is just a discussion
misha | October 27, 2011 6:17 AM
@Jug, actually my opinion isn't based on my personal feelings about Taraji and Thandie. It's based on what they actually said. I like Thandie but based on her comments, I don't feel the need to defend her. So nope, don't need to own anything. :)
Jug | October 27, 2011 5:59 AM
Misha u are too right LOL Don't mistake what Im saying here or on the TV Guide blog. I actually like Taraji. Always have, more than Thandie to be honest. Real talk, I like Naomie Harris & Anjanue Ellis more than either of them, but I digress...
I'm not going to give Taraji a free pass just cuz I like her. Love Denzel, but he was WEAK & was blown off the screen in MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING. Takes nothing away from him being great. Just wasn't his thing. Same here. Shes not the reason the show is weak, the writers are to blame, well that & Caviezal is jive bland LOL. But with the description given for her character (what little there was LOL), she's kinda phoning it in. And its okay, I guess, because you can get away with that on TV, being a "hard nosed cop" but constantly primping & fussing with hair. But I expect more from Taraji, regardless of how little she's given. And as you said, that is my opinion, which is what I was getting at, personal preference, the "differences" for the debate you alluded to seem not come from what Taraji or Thandie have actually done, or their standpoint but how people feel about THEM, their bias. If it's bias, cool. I can get with that "Thats my girl & Thandie ain't", just own it. And for the record, even out of context I think Thandie is whining just a bit LOL
Good talk. Tired & falling out fast. G'night!
Nic | October 27, 2011 3:18 AM
@ Emmanuel
No i don't think you are racist, but your view was. I understand the point that you are trying to make and i don't agree with it. And i think you've over exaggerated the argument a bit, referring to Newton about whining about this, and whining about that, while Newton was simply stating a very fair and obvious fact. End off.
Orville | October 27, 2011 2:37 AM
I think people are being TOO critical of Thandie and I disagree with Emmanuel`s post.
Thandie seems to be commenting on the barriers she experiences as a black British woman. Kate Winslet is a good actress and close to the same age of Thandie and she`s got an Oscar. Is Kate a good actress yes she is BUT so is Thandie.
Thandie has NEVER gotten a really juicy film role where she can show her range. The closest I can think of is Crash and that was like five years ago.
Yes, Thandie has probably gotten more opportunities than some black women in Hollywood due to her skin tone, and she has Eurocentric features. But Thandie has a point, she`s been acting for about 20 years YET she has NEVER gotten a leading lady role in a Hollywood film. So even biracial women such as Thandie Newton struggle.
Vogue is pretty typical the only put very few black women on the cover such as Beyonce, Jennifer Hudson, Oprah, Halle Berry, or Michelle Obama and that`s in the past decade or so.
Vogue would never put Thandie on the cover because Hollywood has never given Thandie a movie role that would demand her being on the cover of Vogue. I think Thandie has gotten the cover of Essence which has over 1 million readers and Vogue is slightly higher in terms of circulation.
misha | October 27, 2011 2:06 AM
"Toldya we wouldn't agree LOL"
Ha. No suprise there. :)
Anyhow, are there similarities in both Taraji and Thandie's complaints? Sure. But there are also key differences IMO that would explain why folk would support /defend Taraji and not Thandie, myself included.
As a fan of Taraji's acting, I find it difficult to believe that she's the problem (re: POI). But can't say I'm motivated enough to go back and watch to confirm that. LOL
Emmanuel | October 27, 2011 1:18 AM
@Nic (and whoever else is feeling some kind of way)
You think I'm a racist? I'm ignorant, am I? Well, I think you're a loquacious mome who doesn't know any better. And you obviously didn't get the point I was trying to make in the post.
First of all, who says that she's that great an actress? You? Well, that's fine. You're entitled to your own opinion, and I'm entitled to mine.
In my opinion, she's a fine enough actress. But that doesn't excuse the fact that she's whining about something that has nothing to do with her craft. Not making the cover of Vogue hasn't had an adverse effect on her career, has it? There are black actors out there right now hoping they'll land even the smallest role in something, just so they can pay their mortgages. And you think she's entitled to cry about a magazine cover? SMDH.
In your opinion, when should she have been given the cover Vogue? After her star turn in "Norbit"?
Maybe after "Run, Fat Boy, Run"?
Or maybe they should have given her the cover after she starred in that new American classic, "For Colored Girls"?
The more I think about it, I'm actually quite angry that she didn't get the cover after she did "Norbit". That film truly showed how dedicated she is to choosing roles that showcase how great an actress she is. You're right-- I'm wrong. Not.
And since when do black entertainers have the luxury of choosing when and where they get press recognition? I can name a few black entertainers whose names would surely be ahead of Ms. Newton's for Vogue cover consideration, but you don't hear them whining about it. That's the point I was trying to make.
Those of you who tried to compare Ms. Newton's whining to Ms. Henson's grievance about the TV Guide cover, you just don't get it. There's a difference between feeling left out of group recognition, and feeling like you deserve the spotlight. Ms. Henson didn't ask for the spotlight, only her just due recognition for her contribution to a group effort. What does that have to do with this?
Look at the names of the few blacks who have made the cover of Vogue: Oprah Winfrey, Michelle Obama, Will Smith, Naomi Campbell, Halle Berry . . . all names that potentially could sell magazines . . . names of people who can't go to CVS to pick up toilet tissue without their picture ending up on somebody's website, in somebody's news report. I hate to break it to you, but Ms. Newton is not on that level. That's the point I was trying to make.
Finally, I don't understand why Ms. Newton is so hard pressed to be featured on the front of a publication that isn't interested in her in the first place. They obviously don't want her; so why does she want them so badly? And it's not like being on the cover of Vogue is a career booster. People tend to get the cover of Vogue after they've already made it to a certain level. So despite all of your assertions that she's a great actress who deserves to expect to be given the cover of Vogue, I guess the truth is that she just isn't on the level that she (and you) thinks she's on. That's the point I was trying to make.
Shocker! | October 26, 2011 12:45 PM
I'm glad Thandie spoke out!! Why should she settle and be happy for what she's already accomplished when there is so much more out there. Vogue magazine means nothing to me, but the entertainment industries seems to think it represents class & establishment in this whack society. People complain about there not being enough roles for AA but when certain AA they don't care for, get roles, all the bashing starts. There is just no pleasing people who don't know what their fight is about.
Jug | October 26, 2011 12:10 PM
Toldya we wouldn't agree LOL
But I do agree with you, I finally gave up on POI as well. It is a bore, but airtime for Taraji isn't the problem. We can get into minutiae of her performance vs her character description that don't jive all day long, but I could care less about it.
Yeah, I don't see what happened to Taraji as racist. Somethings are just piss poor business. But frankly, I give two shits about Thandie Newton and her "want all the spotlight including Vogue" problems either. What I DID see tho, are similarities between two actresses who wanted to put their stuff out there, as they should, and how WE reacted to it-with a tiny difference. That stuck out to me. Yeah, I did highlight it, because many comments were a little more "personal" against Thandie in response to her gripe & there was very little of that about Taraji. There was no "Oh you didn't get that cover because you're from Southeast!". And it started off as folks felt Thandie is a little "uppity" or "aloof" so they weren't as gung-ho to be on her team & the question needed to be asked. Like Jennifer Anniston was the cause of her marriage breaking up yet Brad Pitt cheated on her & lied about it, but got a free pass bcuz we "like him" (& people think Jolie is hot). And to really bring it home, much of that was set up by the article author-it was slanted against Thandie from the get.
Me, I could give two shits because neither situation affects me or influences me, it's just an interesting topic to discuss. I do get annoyed, when the topic of discussion turns into a "you're with us or against us" based on race & logical reasoning takes a backseat. May have jumped the gun, but it happens so much, it's like carrying an umbrella in London-gotta be prepared LOL
2True | October 26, 2011 12:10 PM
I agree! Where does the writer get off with that? Are you starving? Ok, here's a cracker. Be happy!
misha | October 26, 2011 11:35 AM
And I meant assessment not assumption.
misha | October 26, 2011 11:32 AM
Whatever, Jug. LOL I can read and looks to me like Thandie has her defenders and critics. It also looks to me like you didn't like all the support Taraji got for something you didn't deem as racist and are now looking to call people out on their so-called hypocrisy. Again, whatever. *shrugs.*
And nope, sorry "in theory" I don't think Thandie and Taraji are talking about the same thing. Thandie, by her own admission, has been on the cover of mainstream (white) mags numerous times, unlike most other black actresses. So it seems to me that she merely has a beef with Vogue and is using race to make her claim more legit.
And you do know that whether or not Taraji is struggling on POI is a preference..merely opinion, right? It certainly ain't proof of anything, I don't think. I wish I could offer more on that but I gave up on POI after the second episode. Caviezel and Emerson just aren't compelling enough for me. I think they're a bore together, actually. And I have my doubts that Taraji is even getting enough airtime to really make an accurate assumption on whether or not she's "struggling."
Jug | October 26, 2011 10:41 AM
Umm, since you're late to the party, it looks like that. But if you go to the beginning, it started off as "she needs to shut up". Yes, folks came in later agreeing with her, but in the beginning it was much different than the Taraji rant, which was decidedly in her favor.
Trust, one thing I don't do is kick up dust just because. That's just dumb. Hence, why I didn't post in the beginning.
As for Taraji, you're talking specifics, Zeus was referring to the essence of the argument. That there is "excluding" of minorities going on (which I personally think Taraji wasn't necessarily saying but it did become the rallying cry). Both women feel they should be on there & both cases are debatable. Whether or not one was on a show currently & the other isn't, isn't what Zeus was talking about. And my comment was about the utter "ride till we die" love for Taraji even though Taraji is not the most gifted actress walking the earth, which makes a case for why she didn't "get hers", but the reverse arguments were the default ones made in this thread about Thandie. And I'm not talking about my preference, I'm talking about proof-Taraji is struggling on POI in a role she should be killing, it seems to be a "normal" person role devoid of all the high drama she's used to excelling in in films like HUSTLE & FLOW, BABY BOY, I CAN DO BAD ALL BY MYSELF. Yes, she has BOSTON LEGAL & the golf movie, but that's not Taraji's safe zone & I was curious about a sort of "you're one of us/not one of us" mentality developing in the comments section. But I didn't want to make it a referendum on that nor Taraji & the TV Guide mess, so I didn't post. But Zeus brought it up & I thought it was funny, bcuz I thought it was just me who thought that.
Trust me, we will disagree on this...I'm clairvoyant like that. :-P
misha | October 26, 2011 10:24 AM
Umm yeah Jug, I'm not buying that. LOL First of all, whenever anyone makes what some deem "controversial" remarks, there are going to be comments that both praise and criticize the person in question. That was certainly the case with Taraji...not everyone was defending her. Similarly, I see posters defending and criticizing Thandie. Sorry but I see no double standard here.
I must point out that while Thandie is lamenting about never being on Vogue, Taraji was expressing dissatisfaction about being excluded from a TV Guide cover story about her show. Not exactly the same thing in my book.
Jug | October 26, 2011 9:28 AM
HAHAHAHA! Misha, don't point the finger at me. Zeus actually wrote the first thought that popped in my head when I read the article. I almost was the first commentor but refrained because it did seem to "start some ish". But then the comments started rolling in & it seemed like since Thandie stated she "didn't embrace" the black community whereas Taraji did, there seemed to be an all-too coincidental negative backlash to her comment, all the while, in theory, she's saying the same thing Taraji said.
But what it really boils down to is some people like Taraji & some people don't like Thandie, for whatever reason. To each their own, not a "real" debate :-D
blakdiamon | October 26, 2011 8:50 AM
I don't have a problem with what she said. If you don't say anything, you're a punk. If you do say something, you're a complainer.
I was thinking something similar when I saw this month cover of Vogue with Rooney Mara. "Dragon Tattoo" hasn't even come out yet and here she is on the cover of THE biggest fashion magazine in the country. No one even really knows who she is. She had a small role in "The Social Network"...no damsel role in blockbuster summer film, no breakthrough leading role in an indie...nothing!
The closest comparison I can make is Jennifer Hudson's cover but Dreamgirls was already out and she had the "American Idol" story going on. She was the exception, not the rule. Most black women have to be a superstar before they cover a major publication. While there's a new Rooney Mara or Emma Stone every year.
MDL | October 26, 2011 8:47 AM
Emmanuel, your tone here suggests you think Thandie has become too 'uppity' in wanting more. I think Thandie has a legit argument.
Re the comparison between Thandie with Kate Winslet: it is quite obvious that the actor who told her that her life would be different if she were Kate Winslet was referring to the color of her skin not her acting abilities. One actor does not walk up to a another actor and insult their abilities in such a manner. And in this case it was one black actor talking to another. So, yeah, the actor has a point.
misha | October 26, 2011 8:19 AM
"Thandie needs a sandwich.. then she'lll be fine."
Honestly, I don't know what to make of her comments. She starts out by noting the lack of black folks on the cover of big magazines and then she names a couple of magazines that most black actresses haven't been on but which she's appareared numerous times. It seems like her beef is mainly with Vogue, since she's never been on the cover. Her second quote could be taken several different ways and I don't see anything "controversial" about her last comment.
But I do have to chuckle at Jug and Zeus for trying to drum up some controversy. GTFOHWTBS! :)
truthfully | October 26, 2011 7:43 AM
She's just not that talented. Period.
Fallen On Deaf Ears | October 26, 2011 6:57 AM
No one is interested in that Dacelyn. It doesn't push the "Whitey is Racist" agenda that holds us back from getting off our $100 jean wearing asses, and creating angel investment clubs to buy production and distribution companies together.
dacelyn | October 26, 2011 5:28 AM
I haven't read all the comments, rather than speak on Ms. Newton's statement ,
though, I'd like to sort of change the subject and ask if you're satisfied with the amount of 'screentime' blacks and other minorities receive in the industry? In the mediums of film and theatre, do you feel 'art' represents reality enough? Have you ever thought of writing scripts, plays, sitcoms that would really represent your life and dreams ?..thereby, perhaps creating more work for minorities in the commercial film, tv or Broadway venues ? Have you thought of how many Black
entertainment execs there are, well placed enough to greenlight projects ? or if there are any at all, besides those fortunate enough to have their own studios ?
Have you ever wondered why more 'monied' Blacks/ celebrities from other walks of life haven't invested some/more of their wealth into making a difference in what appears in the theatres and the small screens for a positive benefit to minorities , job creation, educational & entertainment wise ? Shouldn't we be more concerned with changing those dynamics instead of the well earned opinions of people who are participating in the industry in front of the cameras ? How could we be more vocal in showing that we'd like to see more minority representation in all strata of the industry
filmchick | October 26, 2011 4:38 AM
Not sure what to make of these comments, but I will say this. Thandie Newton, for all of her success, is NOT on the same level talent-wise as Kate Winslet. Winslet is one of the best actors--male or female--of her generation. Newton doesn't hold a candle to her.
For someone to mention her in the same breath as Winslet is a compliment, IMO.
politicallyincorrect | October 26, 2011 3:45 AM
I don't know why black women support these fashion mags and designers who don't give 2 cents about them. No faces bu you will gladly plop down your 5 bucks for the magazine
Pharisees Among Us | October 26, 2011 2:56 AM
Great post Emmanuel!
Sara | October 26, 2011 2:29 AM
As a regular actress, not based on skin color is concerned I do feel Thandie Newton needs more recognition, but maybe not in the form of magazine covers. She is definitely one of a kind. As a black woman she has received more recognition, compared to someone like Taraji Henson, Regina King, or Kimberly Elise. So for many black actresses reading this are probably like really, really. I believe that she just wants to be treated equal, as someone with real talent, like Kate Winslet. This is probably her frustration.
Also I don't think she realizes that her skin color is holding her back, as much as she actual think it is, or she just doesn't want to recognize it. Maybe her inability to interact with the black community at a young age, or even now, may have something to do with that. I have known a couple of mixed people, who felt ostracized by the black community, and I know non-mixed people depending on their family setting or living environment wasn't able to do so. So they have been living in a bubble, not experiencing or in touch with their black community. I also can't honestly believe someone of her age, or even her longevity in this industry hasn't realized her skin color, unfortunately plays a major role in casting.
Why do I feel like Idris Elba made the comment about Kate Winslet. lol
MulletLove | October 26, 2011 1:48 AM
Good for Thandie if she's coming out publically on this. Why shouldn't she speak out on the crap factor of media representation, just because she's been able to slide under the door a little bit (and how much of that has less to do with talent, and more to do with her being biracial, seriously?)? Doesn't change the fact that our Western media is racist, always has been, and unfortunately promises to still be, unless diversity in beauty standards, artistic standards and the like begins to change in the next number of decades. She has every right to say what she has, especially if she's in the business and probably knows better than any of the rest of us what she's talking about.
saadiyah | October 26, 2011 1:11 AM
Sorry I don't find anything shocking or surprising about Ms. Newton's comments.
What I AM disgusted by is the writer's quote, "In my opinion, Newton should be satisfied with all that she's been able to do so far, because there are many white actresses who haven't even made the cover of Vogue, let alone a black one." Wow! Now that's some shocking shit.
JMac | October 26, 2011 1:01 AM
Sounds like people putting words in her mouth and/or making assumptions about what they mean. Why does her "wow!" mean that she didn't already know that? Maybe it was a "wow, nice way to deflate my accomplishments. Does that make you feel better, nig?" Like none of you would give someone the evil eye if they said congratulations then pointed out why it doesn't really mean anything. And no black person anywhere looked up to MJ when they were a kid? Yeah right. With just these REPORTED excerpts, I don't see anything wrong either. If anything I'm pleasantly surprised she's addressing racial identity and representation issues in the biz- if she actually did engage in that interview.
Confused at the anger here - should she shut-up for being on so many other mags because she's not affected by her ethnicity or shut-up about being upset if someone tells her the success she's had is nowhere near what a white woman would get because she's too ethnic to get the white actress treatment?
gs | October 25, 2011 12:11 PM
Hell yes Thandie deserves to speak out against Vogue. She's done just as many roles as Nicole Kidman who started at the same time she did... yet they both get vastly different opportunities...because Newton apparently the wrong color and she didn't f*ck or marry for fame. Institutionalized Racism at its worst.
Eva_baby | October 25, 2011 12:05 PM
Well, how exactly are you supposed to react when someone says to you that "if you were
AfroStyling | October 25, 2011 12:01 PM
i dont see anything wrong with her comments.
MRD | October 25, 2011 11:59 AM
My sense is that she's expressing her disapppointment that more women of color are not being featured on the cover of Vogue. By citing the number of times she's been profiled on the cover of other magazines makes the point that diversity is being celebrated by other high profile publications. Based on other interviews and articles the suggestion that she's attempting to push her own agenda may be a misinterpretation of her statements.
Zeus | October 25, 2011 11:54 AM
Why complain to a journalist?
My guess, she was answering a question.
Also, as for Henson who could have also used her publicist to send a letter to TV Guide, and didn't, Newton may want to bring public attention to Vogue's lack of diversity on their front covers.
Zeus | October 25, 2011 11:51 AM
guess Taraji is "down" & Thandie "ain't"....
Clear double standard.
k | October 25, 2011 11:46 AM
She said nothing that was shocking. I can't understand the sensationalizing of her comments. Let's be more worried that we're okay with Polanski.
Jug | October 25, 2011 11:46 AM
Whoo hoo boy Zeus! You done said something there...guess Taraji is "down" & Thandie "ain't"....
I'ma sitback & see how this one unfolds...
Mecca | October 25, 2011 11:45 AM
Newton needs to write a letter to the US Editor-in-Chief of Vogue Anna Wintour and express her issues w/ the magazine's the lack of diversity. Why complain to a journalist?
Mickitymouse | October 25, 2011 11:25 AM
Thandie needs a sandwich.. then she'lll be fine.
Zeus | October 25, 2011 11:23 AM
This is not much different than Taraji Henson's rant against TV Guide. Lack of acknowledgement.
With Henson's rant folk came to her defense and said that image and getting noticed is important.
Newton is saying the same about Vogue. Is she being held to a different standard because she is a brit with a non so-called traditional "black" upbringing?
Nia | October 25, 2011 11:09 AM
I don't understand. Is Thandie trying to play the "victim" role here? She certainly doesn't need to. If thats the question, but there's nothing wrong with her trying to be the best at her profession as she can.
Don't get me started on Vogue. They aren't exactly trying to break the mold unless it's a PR move. Then people congratulate them like "Wow you put someone in your WOMEN'S magazine who isn't shaped like a twelve year old boy or the color of plaster!"
I want Thandie to be successful regardless of her race. With the Kate Winslets of the world and I think so far she has done a great job at not being typecast because of her race and recognized moreso for her ability.
So I believe much of her argument is valid.
Kai | October 25, 2011 11:08 AM
Logic | October 25, 2011 11:05 AM
Meh, it's too easy to sensationalize these comments when they're all diced up and out of the context of the original interview.
Mecca | October 25, 2011 11:03 AM
In my opinion, Newton should be satisfied with all that she's been able to do so far, because there are many white actresses who haven't even made the cover of Vogue, let alone a black one.
Right on! Newton complains & whines too damn much! What bothers me the most is that there are people out there who would kill to be in her shoes. Instead she is bitter about not landing the cover of WHITE vogue magazine. Ugh! GET OVER IT!
Newton is the face of Olay beauty products she should be happy about that!