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Where Do You Stand? Changing Your Name When You Get Married
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I have a close friend who's getting married and she has an amazing last name. It's so awesome, in fact, that everyone refers to her by it. Her dilemma then is, should she change her last name and take on her husband's after saying I do? It's a tough decision for any woman: giving up your identity to take on your man's is not a decision that should be taken lightly. Some women may find comfort in the idea of becoming a family and both having the same last name whereas others prefer to hold on to her own family roots; and then there are those who stay safe somewhere in the middle. It's totally a personal preference, so where do you stand on this issue? After getting married, will you take on your partner's last name?
3 years
I think this is a barbaric custom and is completely ridiculous. It's like saying you belong to the other person. If you BOTH want to change your name to signify your new relationship, that's one thing. But I am Icelandic and we follow an older system of naming, where you take your father's (or mother's) first name and add -son or -dottir to the end, and then your name means that you're that person's son or daughter. Very few people have family names. To me changing your name when you get married, whether you are male or female, is like giving up your individual identity. I know it's everyone's personal choice, and I shouldn't judge people who do it, but the first thing that crosses my mind when someone changes their name for marriage is that they've given up their identity for the other person.
3 years
My last name is Snelling and I grew up with the torture of being called Jamie SMelling my whole life (still an every day occurance) Yeah I think Holbrook will be much nicer. I don't even want to keep my maiden as my middle name. Jamie Frances Holbrook....beautiful and what's really beautiful is that I am the only one left for the name to get passed on in this family's lineage in honor of my fiancees wonderful father that died when he was just 17 I have earned my Doctorate Degree as a doctor of pharmacy and am very succesful but my name does not define who I am or my success in my career. It is my values and actions that make me a success. And all you raging femmenists.... stick a tampon in it. There are still some of us strong women out there that get a lot of pleasure out of following traditions that you consider "sexist".
AntiBarbie 4 years
I am not tossing away my identity when I get married so I am going to change my last name.
dani17731 5 years
"For sure for sure keeping my own last name. I don't like the sexism behind the tradition. Also would never have my dad walk me down the aisle as I'm not property to be handed off from one man to another...just my own personal beliefs!" Amen! We share the same beliefs. And as for my kids, their last names will be hyphenated. What's so hard about that? I hated it when my cousins had kids by no-good losers and gave them their last names. Especially since they're not married, why not give the kids your last name? That's what my mom did. (But my dad isn't a no-good loser lol)
dikke-kus 5 years
Hmmm. I've had this conversation before with a friend from Zurich, and a friend from Copenhagen. Neither changed their names, rather a hyphen between both last names. Then which name is hyphened first? Whew. I get tired of this complicated hierarchy. Also how do they create the children's names then? Their little girl then has a hyphened name plus another hyphen when she marries? Clearly we need to drop one name or the hyphens will travel at the speed of light. My situation was I wanted to be married very badly. I had friends who had been married for years and now was my day. I guess I did want to change my identity. So my name also. By changing my name I felt I was proving my commitment to my husband and showing off to the world. Although when I sign my paintings I use my maiden name.
5 years
I'm taking my boyfriends last name when we get married..Its going from one very common last name (White) to another very common last name (Wheeler)...but I get to keep my initials :)
5 years
If I ever choose to get married, I'm going to change my name to my mother's maiden name and my father's last name and NOT take my husband's name. I don't see the purpose. I'm not any less connected to a partner or my children (I mean, they are going to come from my vagina) if I don't share their name. It just means I still wanna be my own person, not some soccer mom robot.
agtpeach 5 years
In some Asian countries, women never change their names. Any children will have the father's last name, but the name you are born with is the one you have forever. I remember asking an aunt what would be so weird about taking her husband's name and she said she wouldn't know who she is if she had to change her name. It's an interesting cultural aberration of a strong individual identity in often patriarchal societies where female fetuses are aborted and girl children are considered burdens on their families.
aerie-marie 5 years
i will change mine because when we have kids i want our family to all have the same last name and it shows unity.
sparkletech 6 years
I'm going to keep my name but possibly hyphenate it to include his last name as well.
tinabeana 6 years
Although my married last name is much more common I choose to change my name because I like it, it's shorter and I really didn't feel any need to keep my father's last name, I'd rather not be associated with him even if only in name.
jadenirvana 6 years
Principle-wise, I'm all about hyphenation. I think the hyphen is the ultimate symbol of the insanely romantic egalitarian marriage (as a poet and writer, I also like to think of the hyphen as the bridge between two united identities). However, I was adopted at a fairly young age, and I really don't have too much attachment to my stepfather's surname, or carrying it on. So, not sure what to do? Any advice? On a side note, I find the idea of tossing one's last name very disturbing. I don't wish to be absorbed into another person when I get married. And any guy who can't "handle" a hyphen is a freak, I'm sorry.
Daisy-Duke 6 years
Very valid points with a VERY valid source PrincessLTrain!
HariboLicorice 6 years
I won't change it because I got my professional degree with my maiden name on it and I'd like to hve the nameplate on my door match the degree in my office. That said, I'm not in a relationship nor am I engaged or married or anything so I guess I'm being passively objective at this point. I think I would perhaps hyphenate? Idk. Prob just sticking with my name- it's ethnic and I like it.
PrincessLtrain 6 years
Hi kikidawn, No, it is not because of careers that it is difficult, but rather the legal process. Mindy Weiss explains it in "The Wedding Book": "Call it reverse sexism, but it's harder for a guy to legally change his name. A woman puts her new name on the marriage certificate, begins using it, then goes through the formalities with the necessary government agencies. A guy, however, usually needs a court order to change his name, although the laws vary by state...It's also costlier for a man, even if he doesn't hire a lawyer. Filing and publication fees vary by state, but a legal name change can easily run a few hundred dollars. The process involves filing a "Name Change Petition" and paying a filing fee, having it published, waiting six weeks, and then appearing before a judge. Then the process begins in earnest." Oh - and their Louboutin's. :)
MrsJigglesworth 6 years
morganfay, I am fully aware of the roots and history of the tradition and how they were discriminatory toward women. Since it is nowadays generally an option and choice and I am not literally viewed as my husband's property, I do not feel my choice to change my name was a sexist act. I do not see it as discriminatory toward me as a woman because it was a thought-out personal choice on my part. and guess what?... my dad walked me down the aisle. :jawdrop:
morganfay 6 years
Kellibee - what are the social advantages of changes ones name to ones husbands name? Marriage comes with privileges, sure. Name change doesn't. Enlighten me.
richandfamous10 6 years
I would not give up my last name - I love and respect everything my parents have done for me too much to completely get rid of it. I'd either keep it or hyphenate.
Pallas-Athena 6 years
Yes, this is a sexist tradition, but a lot of traditions were made when everything was sexist. Just because you take someone's last name doesn't mean that you're losing yourself. It is just like changing your name or a part of it (well that is what it is, but I mean the name changing without getting married) and you don't change. Your face and body and personality is still the same. I think that if you want you can change your last name, keep it and take his, have him take yours, keep your name, or hyphenate it. When I find Mr. Right maybe I will take his last name, but my name means a lot to me because it has a huge history behind it...although it doesn't have the nicest reputation I still like it. Also, it also depends on how his last name sounds with my whole name. Congrats to those who are getting married!
kellibee 6 years
As a good feminist, I would assume that anyone on a wedding forum would be considering marriage, a social institution based on sexism and patriarchy. But as a bad feminist, in this society there are benefits to participating in it: economic, educational, legal, and religious perks. So, I am getting married and changing my name, whooo! I will slowly change the system, like demanding equal participation in housework and childcare, but I refuse to deny myself the benefits of a whole social institution because I am a woman. Which is more sexist?
morganfay 6 years
Antiquated paternalistic bullshit. "I'm never changing my last name. And what's more, any children I might have in the future will take my last name, whether I am married or not." Fully seconded. I like my last name, any potential SO can deal. "I personally didn't/don't see it as sexist since it was completely my choice, and I was not pressured by anyone" Cringeworthy. Please take a crash course in women's studies or, alternatively, google "internalized sexism" and "patriarchy". As long as it's expected and the norm for women to take on the man's name and not vice versa, it IS a sexist tradition. As is "giving away the bride". *Shudder*
kikidawn 6 years
PrincessLtrain, How is it so much harder for a guy to change his name? Becuase of established careers? Well women have them too... I'm truly curious how it is so much harder for guys. Maybe it shouldn't be just assumed the child gets the husband's name... they should discuss it with the woman first. I do agree with your last point. If you go into a marriage making plans on how to make your divorce easier you shouldn't be getting married. Oh and those are seriously cute shoes in your picture! Who's are they?
kellibee 6 years
I'm glad there's a thread on this bc I am stuck. I love my husband-to-be's last name bc it ties me to the hispanic culture that my own family has lost. BUT I'm really fond of my last name. When ppl see it they smile and say it's cute. I have little connection with my dad or his family, so it's only the familiarity that I'm attached to. I think in the end I'll drop it, but I know I'll miss it and it will always be a fond nickname for me.
PrincessLtrain 6 years
For those who think the man should take the woman's last name, it is actually MUCH more difficult and involved for them to change it. We have it pretty easy. For those who are adamant about giving the children their last name and not their husbands/father of their children, don't you think you should discuss this with the man first? For those who don't want to change their name for fear of the hassle after a divorce, why are you even thinking of those things? It's like your setting yourself up for failure!
bchicgrl 6 years
I agree with the posts that say your last name doesn't identify who you are as an individual. I'm definitely taking his last as my initials will go from MS to MM which I think is cute and my friends are already teasing me and calling me M&M haha
RustyAngel73 6 years
i'll keep mine in some way.
MissJules5x 6 years
I think that if i was the last in the family to carry on my name then it would be a bigger deal for me to keep my name than it is now. I have two brothers that will carry on the name and both mine and my boyfriends family are very traditional, so I'd like to stick to that and take his name when we get married. To each their own.
Janine22 6 years
"Can we talk about the fact that we have to choose between our father's name or our husband's name? I don't find the maiden name to be that much less sexist. Darn stupid patriarchal societies...." -Girlnone, I completely agree with you, the whole thing is stupid. I am not changing my name when I get married. And I am not hyphenating it-why? My name will just get lost in the next generation. I have 2 sisters, so our name will be gone with me unless I have a boy and give him my last name. I hope my fiance doesn't mind if I give the kids my last name. I just don't think it's fair at all. Guys don't seem to think it's a big deal, but they are not the ones to be faced with the decision. If it was the other way around, those bastards would not be happy about it at all. They would go on and on about how unfair it is. It's also a good thing men don't have to go through childbirth, because the are already the winiest bitches ever just when they have a cold!
georgie2 6 years
Keeping... not getting married any time soon so i may change my mind, but is a big part of me... and lik your friend, I am regularly referred to by my last name.
DCRoamer 6 years
I am puzzled by how many people associate their last name with their identity. I have a very strong sense of self and identity, but there is no way that I feel that I'd lose that if I changed my last name. I'm changing mine because I like his name better than mine - and I don't think I'll lose myself because of it.
MisterPinkNoTip 6 years
No way. Keeping my name.
kikidawn 6 years
I'm not sure what I am going to do. I've thought of all kinds of options: First Middle Maiden (not change at all) First Middle Maiden Married (have two middle names: mine and maiden) First Middle Maiden Married (have two unhyphenated last names) First Middle Maiden-Married (hyphenated last names) First Middle Married lol I'm all over the place! One thing I do know is that when we have kids they will have his last name. My last name is being passed down through two brothers (and one brother already has two sons). And my SO is his father's only son and his father was an only son too. So I'm not going to push that issue (like his name changing to mine or our kids having mine).
lilren 6 years
I am getting married in October and will be keeping my name -- at least in the short run. I am very close to my family and want to hang on to my pre-married last name, but when we have kids down the line, I think it will be too confusing if I don't at least hyphenate both of our names.
Frank-y-Ava 6 years
I'm not crazy about my last name but this guy i really like his last name is Gay and I'm not sure if i want to go that direction.
Blackwood 6 years
honestly, if it's really cool, I might want it for myself. but if it's just plain ordinary... but still, in my country this is not an actual practice, so I'd have to keep mine. But I just love the name Blackwood, the way it sounds, the way it represents me, so I doubt I would ever do it anyway... unless he's Blackwood in his own right! :P
Asia84 6 years
...and when he acts up, I can just drop the Rodriguez and keep it pushin'
Asia84 6 years
I'm hyphenating my name when I get married. Alexander-Rodriguez Alexander-Perez Alexander-Duran Alexander-Smith
bransugar79 6 years
I always thought I would just naturally take my husbands last name but the closer it got the more I relaized how weird it would be to just suddenly have a different name. So for now I use both with no hyphen. Oddly enough I'm getting used to the new name and I like it. It sort of makes me feel closer to my husband. I think the intention of the tradition may be sexist but I embrace the new feeling of starting a whole new life with a fresh start and it doesn't make me feel "owned" at all. I also think it helps that my husband never pressured me on the matter. He fully understood why it would be weird for me and said that if he had to make the choice he wouldn't know what to do either. But that's part of the reason I love him so much
gossipqueen 6 years
I don't define myself by my name I'm strong enough to know that a name IS NOT who I am...I will change it when we get married.
lawchick 6 years
And her son stood up for me!
lawchick 6 years
BridgetJones, that's a neat idea. His parents will get over it. I almost died when the first Christmas after we were married, his mom gave me a big sign for our house that said "House of Smith, Established 2007" (with his last name on it). It's in a closet. Oh and also all of our mail from her was addressed "To Mr and Mrs John Smith" for a few months. But now, we have been married a year, and she has already stopped all that. She realized it wasn't worth causing conflict.
BridgetJones 6 years
My fiance and I spent some time contemplating choosing an entirely new last name - either a combination of our last names or something new and fun, like 'Rogue' or 'Rocker' - but in the end, it felt sad that we would both be losing the connection that a family name gives you. Neither of us will give up our names when we get married (and I'm a little afraid to tell his parents that!), but it's possible that we will each take the other's last name as our new middle name. If I'm Bridget Jones and he's Jason Bourne (ha), I would now be Bridget Bourne Jones and he would be Jason Jones Bourne. It sounds a bit better with our real names :) I don't know anyone who has done this, but it might be a fun, small way to unify our new family.
carolinel 6 years
I kept my last name and I'm glad I did. My husband was surprised at first but he understood. Plus, I'm from Quebec and live in america, my last name is french and I kind of like it :P
valancyjane 6 years
Re: Courtney Courtney ... that makes me feel a little sick. No, a lot sick.
Lavinie 6 years
i wouldn't change my name... i've talked about this with my friends before - and personally - for me - i just can't do it... i've worked really hard and went to alot of school to become an attorney - and i'm proud being first generation and the first attorney in my family......so to take someone else's name - it just wouldn't work for me....
winniecooper 6 years
Damn, I miss my name.........
northofantastic 6 years
LOL, javsmav! That's funny!
leafonthewind 6 years
I'm never changing my last name. And what's more, any children I might have in the future will take my last name, whether I am married or not. I want my last name to be matrilineal, in honor of the women in my family. My husband, if I happen to be married, can pay tribute to his own family in the kid's first name or middle name if he so chooses. Also, with the divorce rate the way it is now (and the fact that children end up with mothers *far* more often when couples split up), this seems to me the best way to ensure that my children and I share the same last name whether there is a man in our lives or not.
javsmav 6 years
Actually I heard this story on NPR this morning: "Morning Edition, July 17, 2008 · Courtney Dempsey beat the odds when doctors said she had a year to live — four years ago. The Florida cancer survivor now has something else to celebrate. She beat nearly 40,000 couples who entered US Magazine's wedding contest. She and fiancee Gary Courtney won a $100,000 dream wedding. Come September, the lucky bride will be called "Courtney Courtney.""
northofantastic 6 years
I think I would use both last names. My boyfriend and I find it highly amusing that my LAST name is his FIRST name, so there would be no way he could take my name. LOL.
javsmav 6 years
"Can we talk about the fact that we have to choose between our father's name or our husband's name? I don't find the maiden name to be that much less sexist. Darn stupid patriarchal societies...." I really wish that I had changed my last name in college to my mother's maiden name or my grandmother's maiden name. Of course, those are just my grandfather & great-grandfather's names, so there's no getting out of it. But yes, having your father's name is still sexist, but at least it's less sexist IMO. But at this point in my career it would be a pain. "men who seem very open-minded turn out to be very attached to their name and they can never quite explain why ... but they think their wives shouldn't be attached to their own names at all. Hmmmm." YES!!! But going even further, most just seem appalled at the idea--like it would be humiliating and degrading to take a WOMAN'S name. That, imo, just seals the deal. Why should I have to do something that is so despicable to them? Why is it any less humiliating when I sacrifice my name for the marriage? If having the same name is so important for your future family, then create a new one. But really, there are so many mixed families through remarriages that having different names is not a big deal.
stefsprl 6 years
I took my hubby's last name and totally dropped my maiden name, so it is First Name Middle Name His Last name. My middle name is after my grandma, who I adore, and I haven't spoken to anyone in my dad's family for years. Plus, my hubby was adopted at 8 yrs old after a 7 1/2 yr custody battle...he was so excited to finally have his parents' last name and he considered it an honor to give me (and our future children) the last name of his adoptive parents. I can't lie -- it was an adjustment -- but I like the fact that we share a last name, and that made it worth it.
Brooklynbee 6 years
There's really no ideal way, each option has its drawbacks whether husband or wife change or keep or hyphenate or add last names. I changed my last name, but the decision was easy for me since I had a terrible maiden name. In my state, both people can change last names to something new. I thought it would be fun to change our last names to "Ramone" so we could be the Ramones but my husband... he did not feel that was the best solution. ;)
ehadams 6 years
I plan on keeping my name. I have had it for almost 30 years and I love my initials (EHA). I've already set up my writing career as E.H. Adams so I don't really want to change that now. But I also haven't talked about this with the boyfriend...of course he is in the "why get married" stage even after 4 years of living together- but that is a whole nother story. sigh.
Swedeybebe 6 years
i'm excited to take my future hubby's last name! i am definitely traditional in that sense. i've got brothers that can carry on my family name, so i dont necessarily feel like the family name stops here.
Colleeninator 6 years
I took my husband's last name, but I did NOT do it because of tradition. I did it because I despise my family, and everything that reminds me that I'm connected to that mess, and my husband's family has actually accepted me and treated me as family for the past 5 years. They're far more family than mine has ever been to me, and I'm proud to share their name. If the situation was different, I would likely have kept my own name.
orbiting 6 years
Honestly - I was engaged before, and I was NO WAY taking his last name. And hyphenating was OUT of the question (My last name is 10 letters and so is his.... 20 letters?? 21 w/hyphen!!!!?!?!). Now, however...I'm enagged, again (I never got married the first time) and I will be taking his name. He has asked me to take his name... and he did it so sweetly. And his name is short and simple. I may keep my maiden name in there, but I'll take his... we're traditional people, I guess..
MrsJigglesworth 6 years
I was excited to take my husband's last name. I personally didn't/don't see it as sexist since it was completely my choice, and I was not pressured by anyone.
elsieoutside 6 years
It's my name, why would I change it? Keeping MY name.
havok636 6 years
i plan on changing mine. although to much disappointment of my friends, they love my last name because it's very unusual
bluebellknoll 6 years
I recently got married and did NOT take my hubby's last name. In fact, he was the one who suggested that I keep mine. I like my last name so that was fine by me.
rannew 6 years
When I was younger I would play with the my name and my boyfriend's name at the time to see how it would work. But as the reality of it approached, it felt so different, not like fun and games. I did change my last name to my husband's and I'm glad I did, but I do miss my maiden name. The truth of the matter is we both had such common last names it didn't really matter and my name sounds fine either way so why not. It is fun being described as "The W's" instead of Mr. xxx and Mrs. yyy.
sass317 6 years
I had a slightly different problem. My grandmother wanted to have stationary made for me that was going to have my new initials on them- I mentioned that I was thinking of keeping my middle name and dropping my last name. She said absolutely not (even though I pointed out that Emily Post said that anything is acceptable- Only MY grandmother would argue with Emily Post). Her view was that when a woman gets married she becomes First Name, Maiden Name, Married Last Name. I struggled with it bc my middle name is my mom's maiden name and growing up it was the only unique thing about my entire name and I always loved it. Finally I talked to my older brother about it and he said that it was HIS job to carry on the family name, not mine and he thought it was great that I could keep mom's family name as my middle name. So thats what I did- and I just didnt tell my grandmother, I let her put the other initials on the stationary. Its my name in the end and I needed to make the choice I felt was right for me.
valancyjane 6 years
For those of you who say you want to have the same name as your husband ... would he take yours? That is an option I wish more people considered. And it's very interesting to see men's reactions when you bring it up ... men who seem very open-minded turn out to be very attached to their name and they can never quite explain why ... but they think their wives shouldn't be attached to their own names at all. Hmmmm. On the "father's name" thing, it's not just my father's name, it's MINE, too.
girlnone 6 years
Can we talk about the fact that we have to choose between our father's name or our husband's name? I don't find the maiden name to be that much less sexist. Darn stupid patriarchal societies....
Rozenaut 6 years
I was more than happy to change my name when I got married. Aside from just being a sucker for traditions and really wanting to share a name with him... I had grown up with a last name that nobody could pronounce and was happy to ditch it.
hoolywood 6 years
i would never change my last name. i've been that person behind that name my whole life- how could i want to change that?!
lawchick 6 years
"I kept my maiden name with my husband's blessing." -- GlowingMoon, me too. Also I don't think this poses ANY problems with children, as one poster said. I went to school with a girl whose parents had different last names. Her middle name was her mom's last name and her last name was her dad's last name. Sometimes she would use her full name, sometimes just her first and last. Everyone knew whose child she was. It was a non-issue. I don't care what anyone else does. I just care if they are critical about my decision.
RubberDogTurds 6 years
I am going to take my last name and make it my middle name so I can still take on my husband's last name like I want, but keep that special part of me. I understand that may not be for everyone because I'm in a special circumstance where I've never gone by my first name, always my middle, so dropping one of my names and changing everything around is something I actually want.
lauraxtc 6 years
I wont change it.
Neekoh 6 years
For the past 5 years or so, I've had my mind set on hyphenating mine. My name now is so unique to my family and my culture, that I would hate giving it up; but I also want to show my future husband that I am completely committed to him, so I'd also want to take his. If he doesn't respect that, maybe he's not the name for me.
GlowingMoon 6 years
I kept my maiden name with my husband's blessing.
ValenCina 6 years
It is a completely sexist tradition and I would never give up my last name. However here in Italy nobody does it any longer, I was quite shocked when I learned that the majority of women in USA do it (as far as I know).
Renees3 6 years
My last name has been changed twice already. I was born Ribardiere (my mom got married 9 months pregnant and I was born with his name) then she re-married to whom I consider my dad and he adopted me as Stromberg. I love my dad VERY much, but there's nothing special to me about the name. I plan on taking my bf name when we get married. It just seems simpler and I like the idea of us being Mr and Mrs. you know? Also we plan on owning a jewelry store and naming it his last name so it'll be neat for it to be my last name too :-)
Da-Ly 6 years
My last name is moving to be my middle name (since my family never bothers with middle names) and I will be taking on my fiance's name. Plus, I love the idea of taking a super german name instead of my vietnamese name.
snowbunny11 6 years
I think my comment got eaten! Sorry if this posts a million times! I'll definitely be keeping my last name. I know a lot of people have said that they are traditional and that's why they would change it, but I think it's kind of a sexist tradition! I do want to honor my fiance's family in some kind of way, but I don't think I should change my name to do so!
zabrow 6 years
my last name is long & hard for other people to pronounce, so i'll get rid of it. i don't feel that attached to my last name, so i wouldn't feel like i was giving up my identity at all.
lms 6 years
I hyphenated my name and I also did the same thing with our daughter.
aeschere 6 years
i hate my last name and the association i get to other family members. if i had my mom's last name, i would keep it in my name when i get married.. but i get my dad's name, which i reaaaaaaaaaaally don't like and carries a reputation. no thank you. besides, i really adore Lao last names!
sjtoliver 6 years
if you really identify with your maiden name, then there's no reason you should give that up! as for me, it's just not a big deal. who I am is a lot more than just a last name.
SusanTeufel 6 years
I'm personally one of those girls who has doodled "Mrs. Susan ______" forever, myself. I don't think Susan Fox sounds weird, really...But Susan Teufel has a flow to it. Oh well. I still rather have his.
WhatTheFrockBlog 6 years
I'm going to keep my last name, mostly because I don't like his. And also, because I think it's an outdated and sexist tradition. To each their own, though - I've got no problem with anyone else wanting to change their name.
citizenkane 6 years
I can't wait to have his last name!!!
SusanTeufel 6 years
My last name, Teufel, is difficult to say, spell, and means "devil" or the like in German, my German teacher kicked me out of class because she was extremely superstitious. On the other hand, my fiance's last name is Fox. How cute, right? Short, sweet, a fuzzy adorable animal? Easy to spell, who misspells fox? All for changing my name in 29 days myself.
Fallen85 6 years
I've been pondering this decision for the last while... I have a really long name already, 1 first name, 2 middle names and a nice long last name. I love my current last name (O'Connor) because as soon as people meet me they go "Oh, you're irish! What part of Ireland is your family from?" etc etc so if I add my boyfriends last name (Small) I'll have the longest name ever... Also, I use one of my middle names as my first name and it rhymes with Small so that sounds kind of weird... on the other hand I'm 5'1 so it would actually be kind of cute. Ugh I dont knoooow. I want to take his last name but I dont want to lose mine completely. This it would be alright for me to lose one of my middle names? Argh.
bbkf 6 years
It was very important to both of us that we have the same last name. We discussed us both changing our last names to something completely new, but he has a nice, easy last name so we just kept it. I think it shows a unity of the family. Doesn't matter whether you take his, he takes yours, or you take a new one together.
Sweet-as-Sugar 6 years
For sure for sure keeping my own last name. I don't like the sexism behind the tradition. Also would never have my dad walk me down the aisle as I'm not property to be handed off from one man to another...just my own personal beliefs!
fweetieb 6 years
I wish I would have stuck with my maiden name for my first marriage - such a hassle to get it changed after the divorce, I just stuck with it until I met Mr. Right. Then I had no choice but to take Mr. Right's last name, just to get rid of the ex's. Fortunately, I love my new last name and it fits me well.
txcowgrl077 6 years
I'm tossing my old name out with the bouquet :)
cjmara805 6 years
I think when I get married, I'll take his last name, but keep my maiden name as a middle name (and I won't use a hyphen, it drives men mad!). Professionally however, I think I want to keep my maiden name.
annalizer 6 years
I have a unique last name right now and I don't really want it to be changed to Cox....
pinkprincess1101 6 years
umm just a side note if there is a divorce there is not a lot of paper work, all you need to do to change your name is ask the judge to grant a name change in the petition of divorce and it will be granted, then present your divorce decree to whatever places like the SS and DMV and that is it not that hard, i did this a almost two years ago in my decree i asked for my name to be changed to my uncles name who raised me
Gabriela14815884 6 years
I think a woman should take her husbands name since its tradition, however, in my case I chose to hyphenate my name. I did it because my father passed when I was young and we have no males to continue the name I didn't want it to die so I kept it.
geebers 6 years
Chubstaa- HA that made me laugh. I would keep mine in some way - whether I keep it as a middle name or not take his. It is part of me and I couldnt bear to lose it. Plus my first name is unique so it would be hard to find a last name that goes.
geebers 6 years
Chubstaa- HA that made me laugh. I would keep mine in some way - whether I keep it as a middle name or not take his. It is part of me and I couldnt bear to lose it. Plus my first name is unique so it would be hard to find a last name that goes.
Lovely_1 6 years
I am going to take my hubby's name. It's tradition and I am a traditionist.
CHUBSTAAA 6 years
I am keeping my last name, hands down. Nguyen (mine) vs Slusarczyk (his) ? Please... LOL
kiwitwist 6 years
OR both of you pick a new name!
ElizabethRae 6 years
I love that it symbolizes us joined as one. We are making a home together. And I LOVE being referred to as The 'Smiths.' We're a unit. It wasn't easy to give up my last name, but I love the unified household. And that we'll both share our name with our children.
skigurl 6 years
TheMissus, how realistic and unidealistic of you i hope this isn't something you're anticipating in the future, however
kiwitwist 6 years
I think two people that are married should have the same last name for the children's sake (if they are having any). Makes things easier. You can keep your last name for business and have his last name for personal. OR he can change his name to yours. I think we should all be able to find some kind of compromise. But to each their own.
skigurl 6 years
i'm going to add his name after mine, without a hyphenate that's what my aunt did and it's perfect. it unites the family but allows you to retain your own name.
gabiushka 6 years
Im married, kept my last name and he did not mind. I would feel so weird, specially since I come from a completely different place where this is not practiced. It would not feel like it is me when I would introduce myself...
TheMissus 6 years
I kept my name... The Husband has a great last name... But I have always had my name, and I intend to keep it as it is. PLUS... God forbid we should ever get divorced... If I had changed it, and we did get un-hitched, I would have to SUE for the right to use my maiden name. I don't think a lot of woman realize that when they go and change the name. Should you ever get divorced (and 50% of us do), you have to fill out a ton of paperwork to change your name back. So not worth it, in my opinion.
pinkprincess1101 6 years
i cannot wait to have my fiances name
javsmav 6 years
It's a totally sexist practice & there is no way I would take my husband's name. I hate my last name, but I'd rather have a name I hate than participate in this ridiculous practice. I like to pretend like women are equal even if we aren't.
sportsaholic21 6 years
I think it will be fun to have the same last night and I am with Le Luxe, I HATE my last name so am definitely ready to trade it in at the first opportunity!
imLissy 6 years
I think it's kinda neat. I really like his family and look forward to sharing my last name with them. I'm still going to keep my last name as a middle name though. Our last name dies with me unfortunately.
Bisque 6 years
I'm keeping my last name.
Le-Luxe 6 years
I like it because I think its traditional. Plus, I can't wait to get rid of my last name- it stinks. haha
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A Southwest Missouri man is charged with assault and rape after picking up a 65-year-old woman at a dance and abducting her.
The Granby, Missouri man is facing a total of six charges after he pulled a knife on the woman and tied her to her own bed.
According to the Newton County prosecutor Ricky Casteel, 56, sexually assaulted the victim and tortured her with a game of Russian Roulette using a gun from the woman's home.
Casteel is charged with first degree assault, forcible rape, forcible sodomy, domestic assault, felonious restraint and armed criminal action.
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Less than a month after an historic win in Mexico, the U.S. suffered an historic loss, dropping its first game ever to Jamaica 2-1. Unfortunately, it was the latter result that counted for World Cup qualification.
Like many, we weren't able to watch the match. From the reports, it sounds as though absences from Michael Bradley and Landon Donovan contributed to an inability to hold possession or create when they could hold possession.
We advised witholding judgement on Klinnsmann until the U.S. started performing poorly in actual qualifiers. Now is the time to be concerned. The current standings through three games are Jamaica (7, +2), United States (4, +1), Guatemala (4, +1), Antigua and Barbuda (1, -4). The top two teams advance.
The U.S. is in an uncomfortable position, though not a terrible one. Their remaining games against Guatemala and Jamaica (Tuesday) are at home, with the only away trip to Antigua and Barbuda. A win against Jamaica on Tuesday is not mathematically necessary, but not winning would leave them on the brink of disaster. The U.S. had an 8-1-3 record in this round of qualifying heading into the 2014 cycle.
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If passed, it would allow the state to establish charter schools without local school board approval.
The issue was in the limelight during Monday's Charter School debate at the Hardin Performing Arts Center in Evans.
Columbia Co. School Board Chair Regina Buccafusco was on the four-person panel and opposed the amendment, challenging it takes away local control.
On the other side of the argument was Executive Director of Provost Academy Georgia Dr. Monica Henson, who says the amendment would give more options to students and parents stuck in failing school districts.
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Seeking Terror's Causes, Europe Looks Within
By JANE PERLEZ
Published: September 11, 2007
Since the terror attacks on the United States on Sept. 11 six years ago, Europe has faced far more new attacks and reported plots than the United States.
Train bombings in Madrid three years ago killed 191 people, the London transit attack two years ago killed 52 commuters, and a string of plots have been discovered and foiled. Then last week, arrests were made in Germany in a plot that the police said could have caused even worse carnage than in Madrid or London.
In response, Europeans for the most part are looking inward to explain why Islamist extremists have made the Continent a favored target, while the United States has been spared -- despite its position of world leadership and the anger it has stirred waging wars in two Muslim countries.
In that setting, questions about how minority populations of Muslims are integrated into the mainstream are coming to the fore, along with basic questions about Islam itself. Less attention is being focused on finger-pointing at the United States, analysts say.
German newspapers reporting on the arrests last week of three men -- two German citizens who converted to Islam and a Turkish resident of Germany -- did not mention the Bush administration. Instead, they focused on the debate about tougher security measures, and on Islam itself. An editorial in Bild on Friday said: ''There are no easy answers. But the 1.4 billion or so Muslims owe it to the rest of the world to at least try to give answers and find a remedy. A religion with bloody margins does not belong in a world which wants to and must move closer together.''
France and Germany both opposed the war in Iraq, and both countries have been targets of terrorist plots by Islamist extremists, noted Fran?s Heisbourg, a French expert on terrorism and a special adviser to the Foundation for Strategic Research in Paris.
''Bush is incredibly reviled in Germany, and Iraq is viewed as a total disaster, which it is,'' he said. ''But it doesn't lead people to say we have terror because of Bush. Why? Because these guys strike a country that is against the Iraq policy.''
A French government white paper in 2006 described 11 attempts by Islamist jihadists to blow up targets in France in the past 10 years, some of them before 9/11, Mr. Heisbourg said. This showed, he said, that just because France has criticized the Bush administration and stayed out of Iraq, it enjoys no immunity from terrorism.
The foiled attack announced by the German government last week was probably motivated by Germany's involvement in Afghanistan, said Jeremy Shapiro, a specialist in European affairs at the Brookings Institution in Washington.
German troops in Afghanistan have been targets of the Taliban, and demands for a withdrawal are growing in the German Parliament. A vote on German participation in the war is scheduled for next month.
Europeans' concern about their vulnerability to terrorism was highlighted last week when the German Marshall Fund released a survey showing a sharp increase in the number of Germans who fear international terrorism.
The survey found that 70 percent of Germans felt they might suffer a terror attack, 32 percentage points more than in 2005. That brings the level of fear among Germans close to the level among Americans, which stood at 74 percent in a similar survey, said John K. Glenn, the director of foreign policy at the German Marshall Fund.
The increased alarm in Germany follows the failure of an attack during the World Cup last year in which two suitcase bombs were placed on commuter trains but did not explode. Two Lebanese suspects in that plot were said to have been angered by cartoons published first in a Danish newspaper that lampooned the Prophet Muhammad.
The growing anxiety of Germans could also reflect stepped-up warnings of the danger of attacks from the interior minister, Wolfgang Sch?le.
The most recent results by the Pew Global Attitudes Project show that the United States continues to be held in low regard in Europe. In a 2007 survey in Germany, the proportion of respondents with a favorable opinion of the United States fell to 30 percent, from 60 percent in 2002; and in France the percentage with a good impression of the United States fell to 39 percent, from 62 percent. The surveys had margins of sampling errors of plus or minus 3 or 4 percentage points.
In Spain, a great majority of the population concluded after the attacks on commuter trains in March 2004 that if Jos?ar?Aznar, as prime minister, had not dispatched Spanish troops to Iraq in league with the Americans, the attacks would not have happened, said Juan Aviles, a professor of contemporary history at the National University for Distance Learning.
Even so, he said that a February 2005 survey by the Royal Elcano Institute, a Madrid research center, found that 63 percent of respondents felt that Islamist terror sprang mainly from religious fanaticism, up from 59 percent in May 2004, and that only 17 percent believed that anti-American sentiment was the cause, down from 24 percent nine months earlier.
The deep uneasiness about the spread of Islamist radicalism has taken hold across Europe, said Christoph Bertram, the former director of the Institute of International Security Affairs in Germany.
''There is a sense in our societies that the radicalism was not created by the United States but caused by the lack of integration,'' Mr. Bertram said. ''One of the points we all recognize is that it has been extremely difficult to integrate the third generation.''
Each European country has encountered its own set of problems trying to deal with its Muslim population.
In France, for example, the riots in 2005 in Paris among mostly North African immigrants, many of them Muslims, were mainly about economic discrimination, said Mr. Heisbourg, the terrorism expert. In Britain, the Muslim population is overwhelmingly Pakistani and is reasonably well integrated economically, but many Pakistanis feel stronger cultural ties to Islam and Pakistan than to Britain.
In response to the 2005 attacks on the London transit system by four suicide bombers, and before last week's foiled attack in Germany, the British and German governments were searching for ways to better integrate their Muslim populations.
Constanze Stelzenmuller, the director of the German Marshall Fund of the United States in Berlin, said earlier government attitudes of ''indifference masquerading as tolerance'' had now been shunted aside. Now, she said, German-language courses are offered to Turkish immigrants, particularly women, to better integrate those at the edges of the population of Turkish origin, which totals 2.7 million.
The core of the 9/11 attackers hatched their plan in Hamburg, so ''no one is blaming the Americans,'' Ms. Stelzenmuller said. ''A reasonable German on the street will say that the jihadists are brought on by their rejection of society, and that Western foreign policy is a root cause of that.''
PHOTO: Europeans are less inclined now to blame the United States for terrorist plots. Above, a suspect in a foiled plot in Germany. (PHOTOGRAPH BY ULI DECK/EUROPEAN PRESSPHOTO AGENCY)
CHART: ''Terror Plots in Europe'' Major terrorist attacks or plots previously uncovered by authorities in Europe: 2004 SPAIN: On March 11, four bombs placed on commuter trains in Madrid killed 191 people. Twenty nine men have been on trial since last February. BRITAIN: On March 30, British authorities said they had foiled a plot to set off fertilizer bombs around London. In April 2007, five men were convicted of the plot and jailed for life, and two were acquitted. 2005 BRITAIN: Four suicide bombers killed at least 52 people on the London transit system on July 7. On July 21, another group tried to detonate their backpacks with explosives on three subway trains and a bus, but the explosives failed to detonate. Four men were convicted in July 2007 and sentenced to life in prison; two others will be retried. 2006 GERMANY: In July, two homemade bombs, carried onto commuter trains in Cologne in suitcases, failed to explode. Two Lebanese men were arrested. Officials later said the plot was fueled in part by anger over the publication of satirical cartoons about the Prophet Muhammad in a Danish newspaper. BRITAIN: In August, authorities said there was a plot to blow up as many as 10 passenger jets bound for the United States and began raids across Britain to break up the plot. They said 24 suspects were planning to carry liquid explosives onto the airliners. At least seven have been released; the first trials could begin next year. DENMARK: In September, nine men were arrested on suspicion of preparing explosives for a terror attack. Five were eventually released; the trial of the remaining four began this month. 2007 BRITAIN: In June, two car bombs were found in London and two men rammed a Jeep Cherokee into an entrance at Glasgow Airport. Officials initially focused on eight suspects, almost all in the medical profession, but four were released without charge. Three doctors have been charged, and a fourth suspect died of burns sustained in the Jeep crash. DENMARK: Eight men were arrested this month on suspicion of plotting a bombing. Investigators described the threat as imminent and said the arrests grew out of an international investigation that had lasted several months. Six suspects were released after brief detention. Some of the suspects had connections to ''high-ranking members of Al Qaeda,'' a Danish intelligence official said.


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Because of concerns raised about the accuracy of National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) stock assessments, GAO reviewed the assessments for five species of Pacific groundfish: Pacific hake and four types of rockfish--bocaccio, canary, darkblotched, and yelloweye. Specifically, for these five species GAO (1) assessed the reliability of NMFS' stock assessments, (2) identified which relevant recommendations from NMFS' stock assessment improvement plan have been implemented and which have not, and (3) identified the costs associated with planned and ongoing improvements to groundfish stock assessments.
The reliability of the NMFS assessments is questionable for the five species GAO reviewed, although the assessments were based on the best information available at the time they were conducted. According to NMFS officials and a National Research Council report, to obtain reliable results each stock assessment should include at least one NMFS data source of sufficient scope and accuracy because such data are derived from unbiased, statistical designs. However, in the yelloweye assessment, no NMFS data were used, and in the darkblotched, canary, and bocaccio assessments, the NMFS data were limited because the NMFS' surveys were conducted in trawlable waters only. A 2003 NMFS report concluded that darkblotched groundfish are less abundant and bocaccio and canary are more abundant in untrawlable waters. Also for all five species, NMFS lacks a standard approach for ensuring the reliability of non-NMFS data used in stock assessments. Some assessors reviewed the quality of non-NMFS data; others did not. The assessors who reviewed the quality of the non-NMFS data found errors that made some of the data unusable or that could have impaired the reliability of certain stock assessments. Finally, for four species, the stock assessment reports were questionable because they did not present the uncertainty associated with the population estimates. For example, the canary stock assessment review panel recommended that standard estimates of uncertainty be included in the assessment report because without them it is difficult to determine their reliability. NMFS has taken steps to implement some of the recommendations contained in the NMFS stock assessment improvement plan, but much remains to be done. NMFS has concentrated its efforts mostly on improving data quantity. For example, NMFS increased the frequency of groundfish stock assessments and extended the geographic ranges of the shelf and slope surveys to cover over 300 more miles along the southern California coast. However, because of staffing and funding limitations, NMFS has not yet implemented many of the recommendations aimed at obtaining more types of data and improving data quality. For example, NMFS has not collected enough ecosystem data, and the frequency and range of recruitment surveys (estimated production of new members of a fish population) are limited. Finally, because of other program priorities, NMFS has not implemented the recommendation to create a comprehensive plan that combines the improvement plan and its complementary plans. NMFS records indicate at least $8.9 million is needed to complete ongoing and planned stock assessment improvements--$2.6 million that NMFS' Northwest Fisheries Science Center requested but did not receive in fiscal years 2001 to 2003, and $6.3 million requested for fiscal years 2004 and 2005. It will cost about (1) $7.7 million to improve the types of data used, such as more untrawlable water and recruitment surveys and (2) $1.2 million to improve the quality of data used in stock assessments, such as enhanced calibration of vessel equipment and standardized trawl survey procedures. The actual cost of the remaining improvements may be even higher than the $8.9 million estimated because the estimates primarily reflect the amount of money that agency officials believed could be realistically obtained, rather than what the improvements might cost.
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Recommendation: To improve the reliability of Pacific groundfish stock assessments, the Secretary of Commerce should require the Director of National Marine Fisheries Service to require that stock assessment reports clearly present the uncertainties in the assessments, such as the margin of error associated with species biomass estimates.
Agency Affected: Department of Commerce
Status: Closed - Implemented
Comments: In consultation with NMFS, the Pacific Fishery Management Council's Scientific and Statistical Committee (SSC) developed the "Groundfish Stock Assessment and Review Process for 2005-2006" to define expectations for uncertainty characterization and to provide guidance on how to depict the uncertainties of the stock assessments. According to NOAA, in April 2005, stock assessment authors began using a revised stock assessment model that can calculate the uncertainties. GAO believes that these changes will result in improved reliability of Pacific groundfish stock assessments.
Recommendation: To improve the reliability of Pacific groundfish stock assessments, the Secretary of Commerce should require the Director of National Marine Fisheries Service to establish a standard approach that requires that non-NMFS data used in stock assessments be evaluated for its reliability, and continue efforts to implement the task force's recommendations to improve data quality.
Agency Affected: Department of Commerce
Status: Closed - Implemented
Comments: NOAA has taken actions to improve the quality of data used in stock assessments by establishing standardized approaches to evaluate data for reliability. For example, NOAA Fisheries has held workshops with stock assessment scientists to identify and prioritize data requirements. In addition, NOAA Fisheries Office of Science and Technology has initiated a search for existing data to help evaluate potential causes of bias in the current sampling and estimation procedures of several fishery surveys. Finally, NOAA has created the position of "data stewards" to standardize the processing and evaluation of data.
Recommendation: To improve the reliability of Pacific groundfish stock assessments, the Secretary of Commerce should require the Director of National Marine Fisheries Service to continue efforts to collect more types of data, such as data obtained from surveys in rocky, untrawlable waters, recruitment surveys, and ecosystem studies, for groundfish assessments where reliable data are now lacking.
Agency Affected: Department of Commerce
Status: Closed - Implemented
Comments: GAO found that the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) has taken action to collect more types of data, including (1) conducting annual juvenile groundfish surveys, (2) researching new techniques to determine the amount of untrawlable areas, (3) creating a working group for bottom trawl survey improvements, (4) conducting research on sounds made by fishes to aid in locating them and in studying their behaviors, (5) evaluating line-gear methods for surveying groundfish in a rocky habitat, and (6) developing and testing a new hook design for non-lethal collection of DNA samples.
Recommendation: To improve the reliability of Pacific groundfish stock assessments, the Secretary of Commerce should require the Director of National Marine Fisheries Service to develop a comprehensive plan that integrates the NMFS stock assessment improvement plan with other NMFS plans to ensure that stock assessment improvement actions and budget requests are coordinated.
Agency Affected: Department of Commerce
Status: Closed - Implemented
Comments: In 2004, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) began using the Program Planning, Budgeting and Execution System (PPBES) process. According to NOAA documentation, PPBES is an inclusive process that ties planning, programming, budgeting, and execution together. A NOAA official commented that using the PPBES process addresses GAO's recommendation because it integrates the NMFS stock assessment improvement plan with other NMFS plans, ensuring that the stock assessment improvement activities and budget requests are coordinated.
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Iowa Cubs score 3 in 9th to win 3-2
It was an unlikely 3 run rally in the bottom of the 9th as Iowa knocked off New Orleans. After Kroeger led off with his 2nd BB of the game to go along with his 2-2 day, Tony Richie singled him to 2nd. Then Chris Walker was safe on an error as he tried to lay down a sac bunt. John Nelson who was just picked up from Memphis where he hit .192, collected his first hit as a Cub scoring 2 runs. Patterson then completed the comeback with a game winning single.
Cedeno saw his 14 game streak ended as he went 0-4. Coats continued his to 15 games, going 1-4. In addition to Kroeger, Murton and Richie both had 2 hit games. JR Mathes kept the game close, giving up 2 runs in 6.2 innings. Howard was perfect the final 2.2 and earned the win.
Tennessee loses 7-1 as Veal gets smoked
The Smokies mirrored Pittsburgh tonight as they also lost 7-1.
Like the Pirates starter, Veal didn't get past three and trailed 5-0 by then. Veal now has a 5.57 ERA and may be busier reading last year's press clippings than getting in shape to play in Wrigley. The only positive of the evening was Colvin's HR as he went 1-4.
Daytona loses 7-0
And collected only three hits
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Any additional comments about the team would appear to be excessive.
Peoria over Cedar Rapids 3-1
Jacob Renshaw improved his record to 9-4 with a 3.81 ERA. He went 6 innings giving up 5 hits and an unearned run. Papelbon finished the game's 3 innings giving up 1 hit while striking out 4 and not surrendering a run. His ERA is now at 2.43 over 56 innings with 59 K and only 17 BB. Most of Papelbon's outings were 2-3 innings which seems high for a typical pitcher. I'm wondering if anyone has a take on this. Not much offense as Mota was the only player with 2 hits and the only double.
Boise loses 6-5 as bullpen falters
Boise led 4-3 going into the 8th when Tri-City scored 3runs. Chris Huseby started and gave up 2 earned runs in 6 innings, striking out 7. Joshua Donaldson continued his hot hitting as he went 2-3 with a walk raising his average to .353. Since he played college ball, he might be moved up the ladder soon.
The Boise roster seems to be made up of very good hitters or very bad hitters. The pitchers seem to gravitate to a WHIP around 1.50 so many of the games are high scoring.
Arizona Cubs fried 8-3
The good news is the return of Angel Guzman. He started the game and retired the only 3 batters he faced. The rest of the staff pitched adequately until Kevin Krier of the 15.75 ERA who gave up 5 runs.


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Where to adjust text in these types of windows?
I've seen other themes where the text at these locations are blue...or at least readable for this theme style. I can't seem to find the locations for these. Can anybody give a hand? Also I cant make the background color stick in these windows either. I set these windows to be pitch black and then after a reboot, they revert to ...charcoal. And for safe measure I've added a 1 at the blue variable in the RGB screens, but they still keep going back. I know I'm missing things, but have no idea where. Thanks!
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Re: Where to adjust text in these types of windows?
The only Black text color I know how to change in those screens is next to the check boxes, you have to add a text color property here-
Buttons, Boxes & Controls > Buttons > Button > CheckBox
Which themes have a different text color for the rest of the black text?I,ve never seen it done and I don,t know any one who has!This question gets asked alot, have a look at some of the other posts, if you,ve seen it done alot of people will want to see that.
The back ground and the rest of the stuff for those areas is in the guide-They are all pretty much the same as the taskbar properties popup section in the guide apart from certain black text that cannot be changed.
Lists, Menus & Tabs > Tab > Body- should make that background black but you won,t be able to see much
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Re: Where to adjust text in these types of windows?
Nope, you were right about some of the text on there and I have seen other posts regarding that. You fixed my other problem with the check box text though. Thank you again man.
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Lets review what we've learned, class.
Yesterday we got three hits and scrapped together a run in the ninth. I figure these are obvious aftter yesterday.
1. Zach Stewart is a good pitcher. Lets face it, he's gone into the seventh both of his starts, has given up no more than two runs in a game, and has exceptional movement on his curve.
2. Bruce Chen might as well be Cy Young. Its only a soft-throwing lefty. How bad can it get?
3. Ohman works wonders. llast night, he came on with two inherited runners, of whom were on second and third. With Ohman being Ohman, he got out of it with no damage.
4. Brent Lillibridge = Adam Dunn. lets face it. It doesn't matter who is pitching, Dunn and Lilli will Strike out.
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Incidence and severity of respiratory syncytial virus pneumonia in rural Kenyan children identified through hospital surveillance
Nokes, D. James, Ngama, Mwanajuma, Bett, Anne, Abwao, John, Munywoki, Patrick, English, M. (Mike), Scott, J. Anthony G., Cane, Patricia and Medley, Graham. (2009) Incidence and severity of respiratory syncytial virus pneumonia in rural Kenyan children identified through hospital surveillance. Clinical Infectious Diseases, Vol.49 (No.9). pp. 1341-1349. ISSN 1058-4838
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Background.Although necessary for developing a rationale for vaccination, the burden of severe respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) disease in children in resource‐poor settings remains poorly defined. Methods.We conducted prospective surveillance of severe and very severe pneumonia in children aged <5 years admitted from 2002 through 2007 to Kilifi district hospital in coastal Kenya. Nasal specimens were screened for RSV antigen by immunofluorescence. Incidence rates were estimated for the well‐defined population. Results.Of 25,149 hospital admissions, 7359 patients (29%) had severe or very severe pneumonia, of whom 6026 (82%) were enrolled. RSV prevalence was 15% (20% among infants) and 27% during epidemics (32% among infants). The proportion of case patients aged 3 months was 65%, and the proportion aged 6 months was 43%. Average annual hospitalization rates were 293 hospitalizations per 100,000 children aged <5 years (95% confidence interval, 271–371 hospitalizations per 100,000 children aged <5 years) and 1107 hospitalizations per 100,000 infants (95% confidence interval, 1012–1211 hospitalizations per 100,000 infants). Hospital admission rates were double in the region close to the hospital. Few patients with RSV infection had life‐threatening clinical features or concurrent serious illnesses, and the associated mortality was 2.2%. Conclusions.In this low‐income setting, rates of hospital admission with RSV‐associated pneumonia are substantial; they are comparable to estimates from the United States but considerably underestimate the burden in the full community. An effective vaccine for children aged >2 months (outside the age group of poor responders) could prevent a large portion of RSV disease. Severity data suggest that the justification for RSV vaccination will be based on the prevention of morbidity, not mortality.
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Albany- When two people divorce it can take a toll on all those involved, including children. So one local church is offering a program to help ease the pain that kids go through.
Divorce Care for kids started its first semester this year and offers children a place to go and talk about their frustrations. The divorce care for kids program is offered at Sherwood Baptist church, and allows children of divorcees to talk about their feelings.
Associate Pastor Andy Goode, of Sherwood says that most kids have a hard time dealing with divorce. And although it is usually not an easy subject for most churches, Sherwood has opened it's doors to the first ever divorce care program for kids.
In the program trained instructors speak with children about their relationship with their parents, their feelings about divorce and how to cope with those feelings.
Pastor Goode says,"children really don't have any choice when it comes to divorce their whole life gets changed and rearranged and they really don't have a say in it.. its not what god intended the whole family gets pulled apart."
The program is offered weekly at Sherwood Church.
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Asus Vivo Tab (x86, not RT) review
On paper, it sucks: a hybrid with a high price ($999 with dock), a 1366x768 screen, an Atom processor, and 2GB of RAM. Let me explain why it's displaced all of my other devices after having it for only a week.
- Buying experience: wretched. The MS store still isn't selling it; finding a vendor with stock is difficult. It's 11:30 and Windows 8 hardware still hasn't showed up to the party. Then again, buying from Apple and Google kinda sucks, too.
- Unboxing experience: get a life.
- Build: slim, competent, and attractive. It's boxier than a MacBook Air. The Gorilla Glass looks good. The body flexes about as much as an iPad.
- Hinge/docking mechanism: functional, but not incredibly satisfying. The screen will not move backwards when you tap it, but it *does* jostle in the dock if you pull it. Aligning the screen with the dock is initially tricky; clicking it in is somewhat difficult on a soft platform. The disappearing hinge looks nice during use.
- There's no place to put the stylus; the device is far too thin for that.
- CPU/memory: snappy. During usual tasks, there is no appreciable difference between the Atom and my Core i5.
- Screen: very bright, though the low resolution is apparent.
- Wifi: good; on par with the iPhone 5.
- I/O: booting and starting apps is fast, but sustained throughput seems pretty bad.
- The battery life is unbelievably good, thanks to the additional dock battery. I haven't run it below 40%, but anywhere between 13 and 18 hours seems reasonable. It erases years of distrust and paranoia engendered by crappy laptops, which, in this regard, includes basically all of them. This makes you realize how much of the perceived mobility of a tablet is due to battery life.
- The S0ix sleep mode doesn't just save battery life; it makes the device immediately accessible, like a tablet. Again, this dramatically changes your perception of the device, and no laptop can compare.
- Due to the multiple input modes, x86 compatibility, and general mobility, it will immediately become your daily driver, relegating your iPad and Nexus 7 to occasional specialized use.
- Portrait mode is great. It's hard for a 675g device to be unwieldy, regardless of how it's held. Due to the small width, typing is slightly *more* comfortable than on an iPad. Being able to see a full page of a document is essential for many kinds of work. Browsing the web would be very fun - imagine an information-dense magazine - but 1366x768 is hardly "dense."
- The stylus is excellent, though poorly calibrated from the factory. You need to find and enter a command-line incantation. This issue contrasts Microsoft's incompetence with Apple's blithe disregard of functionality.
- Windows 8 and/or ASUS' drivers are still kinda buggy. In particular, the mouse cursor might disappear upon waking from sleep.
- There is no such thing as "tablet mode" and "laptop mode". When docked, you will simultaneously perform stylus pecks, finger swipes, keyboard presses, and touchpad taps. You might keep it docked even when you're watching video on the couch, with the keyboard on your stomach and both hands gripping the sides of the screen. It's not appropriate to evaluate it by the separate standards of tablets and laptops, but you already know that.
- If you're a student, academic, academically-inclined professional, document-pusher, or road-warrior, you should seriously consider one of these devices. The flexibility and mobility is unparalleled.
- If you're a gamer, media consumer, spec queen, are too dainty to bear a few hardware quirks, or are too timid to use something that Tim Cook would call "compromised", then don't bother.
- The Verge would probably give it ~7.8 due to the low-res screen, hardware quirks and high price.
At some point, I'll post pics of it next to an iPhone 5, MacBook Air, and Nexus 7.


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NPR Invites Ted Koppel to Respond to Olbermann...But Utterly Excludes Bill O'Reilly
National Public Radio can't even host a discussion about objectivity in journalism without slanting it to the left. On Tuesday's Talk to the Nation, they invited on former ABC anchor Ted Koppel to discuss his Washington Post op-ed slamming cable news. Host Neal Conan played a large audio chunk of Keith Olbermann running down Koppel on Monday night's Countdown for "worshipping before the false god of utter objectivity" and failing to stop the war in Iraq. NPR offered 294 haughty words of Krazy Keith.
But Koppel slammed Fox News as well as MSNBC. Why would NPR fail to air the views of Fox News? The Fox-hatred continues. All NPR listeners got was an insular debate between Old Liberal Media and New Leftist Media. Bill O'Reilly, in fact, also commented on Koppel on Monday night (with less aggression, and no suggestions that secular Koppel bowed before any god). Here's some of what NPR just couldn't bother to locate:
Well, this is a fact-based news analysis broadcast here and the fact is that we have invited Mr. Koppel on The Factor more than a few times. We want to discuss his ongoing beef. But Mr. Koppel is not up for the challenge or so it seems. So there is no question that the Fox News Channel has eclipsed some of the traditional news agencies as far as influence is concerned and I believe that's what is bothering Mr. Koppel as always, I could be wrong.
Joining us now to analyze is radio talk show host Tammy Bruce. She's in Los Angeles and here in New York, Ellis Henican, columnist for Newsday. So to me it sounds a little like sour grapes. Now I know there - that being said, I know there are abuses in cable television as there are abuses in any industry. There are people that are on the air who bloviate and make up stuff and spout lies, but I worked in network news and there were no pristine organizations over there. I was at NBC when Ted Koppel was there and it wasn't. So I'm getting the sour grapes feeling here. What are you giving?
O'Reilly also told his guests "I submit to you that Ted Koppel could not sit in the chair where Ellis is, nor would he want to, and sustain my questioning. He couldn't give me examples of me lying on the air. Using an opinion not based on fact. He couldn't do it and if he could, he ought to come in here and do it and shut me up for good."
In other words, Koppel could take time out of his day to be honored and hallowed on NPR, but wouldn't lower himself to Fox News -- just the same way NPR wouldn't. NPR booked one other guest in the Koppel half-hour -- blogger Jeff Jarvis, who didn't have anything to say about liberal bias, but just stuck up for the Internet, which Koppel claimed he wasn't criticizing.
Conan not only failed to raise objections from Fox News, he failed to question Koppel about failures of traditional Old Media, from Rathergate to Jayson Blair to well, let's not forget Koppel's embarrassing fiasco trying at length to pin an "October Surprise" hostage-release delay by Ronald Reagan's 1980 campaign. (PBS was part of that "investigative" smear, too.) Conan could only ask Hallowed Ted to address Righteous Keith:
CONAN: What about his other point, the false god of objectivity? He's saying that the great pieces by you, among others, but certainly by Walter Cronkite and Edward R. Murrow were no less subjective than anything he does.
KOPPEL: Yeah. What he was saying - and I completely agree with this - is that what is most remembered about what Ed Murrow did is the extraordinary "See it Now" piece that he did on Joseph McCarthy. What is remembered, perhaps most, about Walter Cronkite is the piece that he did about Watergate, and the piece that he did when he came back after a couple of weeks in Vietnam and - of which President Johnson famously said, if I've lost Walter Cronkite, I've lost the country.
What Mr. Olbermann does not say, however, is that what made those pieces so powerful is that they came within the context of a lifetime of objective - not subjective - reporting. What made Walter Cronkite's piece stand out as it did was precisely the fact that we rarely, if ever, knew where Walter was coming from politically. And even on that occasion, he wasn't making a political statement about Watergate or a political statement about Vietnam. He was, as an old-time reporter, coming back and saying, you know, I can no longer restrain myself. And on this particular occasion, I'm going to step out of my customary role of just as a reporter, and I am going to do some analysis and commentary. And he did. But what made it stand out as it did was precisely because it was so rare.
Anyone who watched Cronkite or Murrow before 1981 knows it's a terrible joke to argue their liberal bias was incredibly rare. Koppel could claim that Cronkite never matched Olbermann in telling the president to "shut the hell up" or devoting 21 minutes of air time to his own self-righteous "special comments." Koppel isn't arguing for some lost era of fairness and balance in TV news. He's arguing for the more traditional pretense of objectivity to make your editorializing more powerful. It's that traditional bias that made Fox's "fair and balanced" promise so appealing.
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Submitted by dirtydan64 on Fri, 11/19/2010 - 11:10am.
Cronkite has said himself or I should say I've read some of his own opinions or excerpts on his personel Political views where he was and is still today very Liberal, however he knew when the camera was on that he had to be impartial in his reporting though there were many times where he was not and those times were on the Vietnam stories or the Hostage situation, or even on Carter but IMO Cronkite was loved by most for his perception of being as fair of a reporter there was on the air back in the day. As for Koppel he's a whole different animal and one that will never admit nor will he ever have the balls to face O'Rielly or others who are waiting to suject Koppel to a real interview. Good Grief Ted Koppel grow some and back up what you said just once in your adult life !!!
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used to be more subtle
Submitted by SouthJersey1953 on Fri, 11/19/2010 - 11:28am.
Some reporters, like Cronkite, were good at presenting biased reporting but keeping it subtle so that the 'average' viewer didn't realize they were seeing a report slanted heavily in one direction (liberal). Peter Jennings was another that was good at it. If you listened to a Jennings report, it sounded politically neutral, but if you watched that same report, his body language screamed bias. I can't count the number of times I noticed that as he 'reported' about some Repub (or some economic program under Repub direction), he would roll his eyes as he read as if to say, "Yeah, like I really believe this"
Today, most reporters don't' try to hide the bias.
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Bill O could add a signature
Submitted by Ashrak on Fri, 11/19/2010 - 11:31am.
Bill O could add a signature of sorts to every "memo". At the end of whatever topic he writes about to kick off his show, he could offer a full hour to Koppel (and Olbermann for that matter) and count the days the offer is dismissed, ignored and ducked.
Bill won't though because he views himself as "above" that.
You know who I would really like to see take on Keith and Ted (and Bill too)
John Stossel. He would eat all three of them for lunch.
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Submitted by KC Mulville on Fri, 11/19/2010 - 11:38am.
Mulville Rule: No one can be trusted to reveal the flaws in his own argument.
The reason our legal system is based on adversarial debate is precisely because we know that no one will deliberately reveal their own shaky assumptions or questionable logic. They will highlight the good stuff, and hide the bad stuff. That's why rely on adversaries to bring out the bad stuff, because no one will do it by themselves. In court, the jury isn't asked to hear one side. A jury is only allowed to make a judgment after they hear both sides. No one attorney can deliver the whole truth. The two sides work together (whether they like it or not) to deliver a balanced story to the jury.
In the same way, no one reporter can deliver "balance." It's like saying that one person can sing a harmony -- by definition, it can't be done. When a reporter prepares his report, he makes decisions about meaning, importance, credibility, collateral damage, etc. All of these are based on his own assumptions and personal beliefs. He can't magically set these aside. He needs them to make his decisions. As a result, he may deliver a great report, but it's necessarily not "balanced."
Balance comes from multiple perspectives. You can't expect Fox or MSNBC (or any of the others, for that matter) to individually deliver the full truth. You have to listen to multiple perspectives, and then allow them to work together. No one reporter can be trusted to tell the full truth, not because they're bad people or lying bastards, but because no one can. You have to get a range of views.
When Koppel praises the "objectivity" of Cronkite, and longs for the good old days, he's really longing for the time when people foolishly believed that the prosecutor could deliver the whole truth by himself. Wasn't it much easier when people could trust one person to be objective? It was easier. It was also about as fair as a trial where the jury was sent away to deliberate without hearing the defense's case. If a judge gave the case to the jury after only hearing one side, we'd all impeach the judge. But that's what Koppel considers the good old days.
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Nothing to add..
Submitted by Francisco on Fri, 11/19/2010 - 11:50am.
Just wanted to commend you on your brilliant analysis..
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Rockefeller too
Submitted by Vic138 on Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:01pm.
Those "good ol' days" are exactly what sen rockefeller wants as well. Bunch of old farts - how much longer till they all go away?
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Koppel, Rather, Brokaw, etc.
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Fri, 11/19/2010 - 11:41am.
Koppel, Rather, Brokaw, etc. are full of shit when it comes to their professing to being the last of the true professional news guys.
They and their ultra liberal views were all we had as little as 10 years ago.
If they had " FOX NETWORK " highlighting just how ' unfair & unbalanced they were back then, and still are today, they would be reacting at least, probably worse than Olbermann, Matthews, Schultz and the others act today.
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Gee... who was the red-haired
Submitted by Bruzilla on Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:05pm.
Gee... who was the red-haired buffoon on nightline who spent most of the 1980s using his show to constantly criticize Reagan and the Republicans? I think Koppel was his name too. Funny isn't it.
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You missed the point of the piece.
Submitted by what the what on Wed, 12/01/2010 - 8:55pm.
The question they were tackling was "Should Objectivity Still Be the Standard in News?"
This takes the issue and pulls out to rais the broad question. It was presenting two different POV's on that question; it wasn't a Koppel vs. Oberman/O'Reilly show.
Many people are having that same discussion without inviting any of those parties to the table.
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A little early. but as the saying goes, it's five o'clock or nighttime or something somewhere! With a lack of more important things to do, or well, anything at all to do, here is an adapted version of our favorite Christmas poem.
Twas the night before Opening day, when all through the club house
Not a creature was stirring, not even Tito's pet mouse.
The bats and gloves were set in the lockers with care,
Knowing that Game Thread 1 would soon be there.
The players were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of grand slams and perfect games danced in their heads.
And Tito in his 'kerchief and Theo in his cap,
Were nearly risen from a long offseason's nap.
The offseason had been long with so much clatter,
Theo had assessed to see what was the matter.
Away to the Winter Meetings he had gone like a flash,
Away to fix the team, with Crawford and Gonzalez, just a dash.
Fenway was finally clear of the fallen snow,
Attendants on the Monster called 'look out below!'
What to my wondering ears should appear,
But the announcing of 'Opening Day is finally here!'
With our little old manager, so composed and merry,
I knew in a moment it must be St. Terry,
More rapid than eagles his players they came,
And he whistled, and shouted and called his players by name!
"Now Pedey! Now Youk! Now Scutaro and Lester!
On Buchholz! On Gonzalez! On, on Crawford and Wheeler!
To the plate! To the top of the wall!
Now hit away, pitch away, play away all!"
As in Spring Training the pitches did fly,
When they meet with an obstacle, they took to the sky.
Up to the Monster they flew,
For homeruns, and wall ball doubles too!
And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the roof,
The first foul ball of the season, sounding like a reindeer's hoof.
As I drew in my head and was turning around,
The Ump delivered, new balls abound.
Wally was dressed all in fur, from his head to his foot,
Dirty from tripping, like ashes and soot.
A bundle of homeruns Gonzalez will have on his back,
With a solid chance at leading the pack.
Pedey was here, his eyes-how they twinkled! His dimples how merry!
Youk's cheeks were like roses, his nose like a cherry!
His droll little mouth was drawn up like a bow,
What will his beard be this year, no one knows!
A sunflower seed Terry held tight in his teeth,
NESN headphones encircled his head like a wreath.
Reyes had a broad face and a "little" round belly,
That shook when he laughed, like a bowlful of jelly!
Papelbon was being his jolly old self,
Pulling a beer from upon the top shelf.
A wink of his eye and a twist of the head,
soon that beer was nothing but dead.
Lester spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
Thinking silently in his head how Paps is a jerk.
And putting the ball behind his back,
Sending hopeful thoughts to the next starter, Sir Lack.
Will we win one sixty two? Probably nope,
On the backs of these fine players we can however, always hope.
I heard the groundskeeper say quietly, mainly to himself as he turned on Fenway's light,
"Happy Opening Day to all, and to all a good Opening Night!"