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P. Frey, R. Radhakrishnan, H.W. Carter, P.A. Wilsey, P. Alexander, "A Formal Specification and Verification Framework for Time Warp-Based Parallel Simulation," IEEE Transactions on Software Engineering, vol. 28, no. 1, pp. 58-78, January, 2002.
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This paper describes a formal framework developed using the Prototype Verification System (PVS) to model and verify distributed simulation kernels based on the Time Warp paradigm. The intent is to provide a common formal base from which domain specific simulators can be modeled, verified, and developed. PVS constructs are developed to represent basic Time Warp constructs. Correctness conditions for Time Warp simulation are identified describing causal ordering of event processing and correct rollback processing. The PVS theorem prover and type-check condition system are then used to verify all correctness conditions. In addition, the paper discusses the framework's reusability and extensibility properties in support of specification and verification of Time Warp extensions and optimizations.
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Presented at the Annual Meeting of the American Society for Radiation Oncology; October 28-31, 2012; Boston, MA.
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Trends in the use of postprostatectomy therapies for patients with prostate cancer: A Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results Medicare analysis
Article first published online: 10 JUL 2013
DOI: 10.1002/cncr.28222
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Volume 119, Issue 18, pages 3295–3301, 15 September 2013
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Sheets, N. C., Hendrix, L. H., Allen, I. M. and Chen, R. C. (2013), Trends in the use of postprostatectomy therapies for patients with prostate cancer: A Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results Medicare analysis. Cancer, 119: 3295–3301. doi: 10.1002/cncr.28222
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Just me1's ridiculously bad post easily ran away with the worst fanpost award. Scottidog's memorial thread came in second, and Johnnyboy's terrible thread took third.;. Bravo at being terrible.
In the last thread, we didn't get enough nominees for certain categories, probably because there was a ton of comments and some nominations started near the bottom. So, we have to decide if we want to scrap these categories.
The categories that need nominees are The Biggest Zuffa Zombie award, Most Die Hard fan(this had like thirty nominees but no one supported any of them), Best Article, and Best Feud. If you want to create another category, post it below and see if there's any support. If it's supported AND has nominees, I'll add it to the list.
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Rebekah was assertive in a time when women were expected to be submissive. This quality helped her become Isaac's wife but caused trouble when she pushed one of her sons ahead of the other.
Abraham, father of the Jewish nation, did not want his son Isaac to marry one of the pagan Canaanite women in the area, so he sent his servant Eliezer to his homeland to find a wife for Isaac. When the servant arrived, he prayed that the right girl would not only offer him a drink of water from the well, but offer to water his ten camels too.
Rebekah came out with her water jar and did exactly that! She agreed to go back with the servant and became Isaac's wife.
In time, Abraham died. Like her mother-in-law Sarah, Rebekah was also barren. Isaac prayed to God for her and Rebekah conceived twins. The Lord told Rebekah what would happen to her sons:
"Two nations are in your womb, and two peoples from within you will be separated; one people will be stronger than the other, and the older will serve the younger." (Genesis 25:24, NIV)
They named the twins Esau and Jacob. Esau was born first, but Jacob became Rebekah's favorite. When the boys grew up, Jacob tricked his older brother into selling his birthright for a bowl of stew. Later, as Isaac was dying and his eyesight had failed, Rebekah helped Jacob deceive Isaac into blessing him instead of Esau. She put goatskins on Jacob's hands and neck to imitate Esau's hairy skin. When Isaac touched it, he blessed Jacob, thinking it was really Esau.
Rebekah's deception caused strife between Esau and Jacob. Many years later, however, Esau forgave Jacob. When Rebekah died, she was buried in the family tomb, a cave near Mamre in Canaan, the resting place of Abraham and Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, and her daughter-in-law Leah.
Rebekah's Accomplishments:
Rebekah married Isaac, one of the patriarchs of the Jewish nation. She bore two sons who became leaders of great nations.
Rebekah's Strengths:
Rebekah was assertive and fought for what she believed was right.
Rebekah's Weaknesses:
Rebekah sometimes thought God needed her help. She favored Jacob over Esau and helped Jacob deceive Isaac. Her trickery led to a split between the brothers that has caused turmoil to this day.
Life Lessons:
Impatience and lack of trust made Rebekah interfere with God's plan. She did not consider the consequences of her action. When we step out of God's timing, we can sometimes cause a disaster we have to live with.
Referenced in the Bible:
Genesis 22:23: Chapter 24; 25:20-28; 26:7-8, 35; 27:5-15, 42-46; 28:5; 29:12; 35:8; 49:31; Romans 9:10.
Wife, mother, homemaker.
Family Tree:
Grandparents - Nahor, Milcah
Father - Bethuel
Husband - Isaac
Sons - Esau and Jacob
Brother - Leban
Key Verses:
Genesis 24:42-44
"When I came to the spring today, I said, 'LORD, God of my master Abraham, if you will, please grant success to the journey on which I have come. See, I am standing beside this spring. If a young woman comes out to draw water and I say to her, "Please let me drink a little water from your jar," and if she says to me, "Drink, and I'll draw water for your camels too," let her be the one the LORD has chosen for my master's son.'" (NIV)
Genesis 24:67
Isaac brought her into the tent of his mother Sarah, and he married Rebekah. So she became his wife, and he loved her; and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death. (NIV)
Genesis 27:14-17
So he went and got them and brought them to his mother, and she prepared some tasty food, just the way his father liked it. Then Rebekah took the best clothes of Esau her older son, which she had in the house, and put them on her younger son Jacob. She also covered his hands and the smooth part of his neck with the goatskins. Then she handed to her son Jacob the tasty food and the bread she had made. (NIV)
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Two young people fall under the power of a passionate, eternal love, but past events – and Tristan and Isolde's complex identities – lead inexorably to tragedy.
Julian Joseph and librettist Mike Phillips explore the contemporary resonances of this ancient British legend, immortalized in Wagner's opera. Joseph begins afresh with an original score in which composition and improvisation are entwined, illuminating this timeless tale of all-consuming love, its ecstasy and its tragedy.
Windows into Tristan and Isolde is played against a backdrop of cultural instability, the two lovers representing two very different sides of European identity. Their story becomes emblematic not only of themes of jealousy, vengeance and sacrifice, but of intercultural encounter and a society in flux.


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He then crashed the vehicle and ran off into the woods.
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Two weeks ago The Church of England Newspaper titled my article "Why the Archbishop of York got it wrong."
My purpose in writing then was twofold: to point out that York had made a statement that went against the facts; and to provide the facts on why the Episcopal Church in the US was not theologically orthodox, especially in the top levels of leadership.
The response of York, or rather the staff member Arun Arora who wrote for York, was to ignore what was actually said in my article and to assume two things, both incorrect.
First, the assumption was made that I was attacking York, and this is patently not so. I was encouraging York to look and listen harder to what the American Church was saying.
Second, the assumption was made that anyone who is retired from a major position has lost influence and fallen out of importance in the shaping of the American Church mind.
In the USA, Episcopal bishops continue after retirement to have seat, voice and vote in the House of Bishops, and often are asked to assist in other dioceses or to teach in seminaries.
The problem is that Arora, in missing the point of the article, misses it in a most embarrassing way, believing it is an attack on his boss. Thus he brings up somewhat arcane references to Hitler, Nazis and children's games involving donkeys, and feels the need to relegate prematurely Bishop John Shelby Spong to the old people¹s home.
Although I would find little in Spong¹s writings to endorse, his latest book in hardcover was released February 27, 2007. He has a busy speaking schedule in the USA, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa going through October.
Bishop Bruno is written off by Arora, as Bishop Borsch¹s successor, with hardly a notice that the Diocese of Los Angeles is the second or third largest TEC diocese, and that John Bruno was instrumental in the election of Presiding Bishop Jefferts Schori, and has initiated the second largest number of lawsuits against departing congregations.
It is good to see the many citations of orthodoxy by the Archbishop of York, but no claim was made to the contrary despite Arora's excitement.
The American Anglican Council and I do assert clearly and with facts before us that the majority leadership of the Episcopal Church in the USA has significantly departed from historic Christianity and Anglicanism in belief about the person and work of Jesus Christ and the authority of Holy Scripture.
Although we have NOT made any suggestion that the Archbishop of York holds such beliefs, nor Arora himself, it would be well for York, and perhaps Arora, to become more familiar with the American theological scene.
Although the leaders of TEC greet other Anglicans with smiling faces and generous words, it is finally not the cordiality of the moment that determines orthodoxy, but the actions, deeds and spiritual pronouncements that are behind the glad hand extended. Arun Arora states, "Anderson's objections lie not in the consideration of the mainstream of TEC, but rather by reference, by and large to its extremities."
Oh that the statement might be so! Who does he think Presiding Bishop Jefferts Schori (pictured) is, if not the mainstream? The problem did not arrive on our doorstep yesterday, but has been building, and when significant deviation from orthodoxy occurs, those in leadership in TEC and in the Anglican Communion have NOT been willing to provide discipline.
For example, a panel of TEC bishops dismissed heresy charges against Spong, and to this day his writings have never been repudiated by the Episcopal Church's House of Bishops. Are we ignoring the Episcopalians who "are faithfully reciting the creeds and liturgy?" No, we are pointing to their leaders who are putting them in spiritual peril. The current bishop of Washington, DC, John Chane was previously dean of St Paul's Cathedral in San Diego, California and in his Easter sermon of 2002 remarked, "The Easter story ... the event of the resurrection, which defines the core of our Christian theology, is at best, conjectural, based upon what we are able to read from the Gospel accounts and the Book of Acts."
David Booth Beers, the Chancellor for TEC, speaking to a meeting of Episcopal chancellors remarked recently, "The Presiding Bishop wants the Communion to understand the peculiar genius of the Episcopal Church. If others understood ECUSA they would see us as holy ... The New Hampshire consecration was not sprung on the Communion - it seems people haven't been paying attention to what's been coming for 30 years and that¹s naive."
It is not just the top level of TEC's leadership that has theologically and spiritually gone astray. The Rev James Knowles of Grace Church in Syracuse, New York, during a service in 2005 dipped an eagle feather into cedar ashes and brushed the smoke towards worshippers and asked the congregation to face the four cardinal points as he read a prayer praising the sun, the moon, the alligator and the turtle. I imagine they skipped the creed at that service. Adding things and skipping things has become very common in Episcopal Churches down on the grassroots level as well, and cumulatively these do impact the present and the future.
It is now quite common NOT to require Holy Baptism for someone to partake of Holy Communion in many liberal dioceses and parishes. We are certain that the Archbishop of York would not agree to such practices, yet it is happening constantly in many areas of TEC.
There is a published account of a University of the South (Sewanee, Tennessee) student who some years ago sought counsel from the school's chaplain over his discomfort reciting the Nicene Creed because he had doubts about some of the statements.
The chaplain said, "...he saw no problem at all. If joining in the Creed distressed him, why not just speak only those portions of it that didn't offend?" This counsel revealed to the student, V Gene Robinson, that "although the Anglican faith had cherished creeds, it had no absolute doctrine," (The New Yorker, April 17, 2006).
Approximately 10 years ago when charges were brought against Bishop Walter Righter, the ecclesiastical court dismissed the charges saying TEC did not have "core doctrine." One of the bishops making that determination was Bishop Frederick H Borsch.
Recently an Episcopal priest working in the Diocese of Olympia confessed that she is a practicing Muslim and seems to believe there is no contradiction involved. The Rev Dr Ann Holmes Redding has been functioning with the bishop of Olympia's permission, and was until recently serving as director of faith formation at St Mark's Episcopal Cathedral in Seattle.
Another bishop, Geralyn Wolf of Rhode Island where Redding is canonically resident, has suspended her from exercising her ministry for a year to give her the opportunity "to reflect upon the doctrines of the Christian faith". The bishop of Rhode Island would seem relatively more orthodox than the bishop of Olympia. Were the Archbishop of York desirous, the American Anglican Council could provide additional quotes from TEC bishops in the USA to show the lack of orthodoxy.
At the end of the day, John Sentamu should change his mind about TEC's orthodoxy or, if the Archbishop, or his press officer, or both, continue to regard TEC as orthodox in its doctrine, then that raises questions about their standard for Anglican orthodoxy.
--This article appears on page 7 of the August 17th, 2007, edition of the Church of England Newspaper
Filed under: * Anglican - Episcopal Anglican Provinces Church of England (CoE) Episcopal Church (TEC) TEC Conflicts
Posted August 17, 2007 at 6:53 am
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1. mathman wrote:
Theologically orthodox is an expression which has various interpretations. To those of us who count ourselves faithful to the core doctrine which has been almost universally held for over 1900 years, orthodox means believing and acting in ways which are consistent with the New Testament and the early Creeds. Such orthodoxy includes (but is not limited to) our beliefs about our fallen human nature, the sovereign act of God of casting our foreparents out of the Garden of Eden, the history of God active through the prophets in calling His people back to Him, the ultimate incarnation of His Son in human flesh to dwell among us, and the culmination of redemption in the death and bodily resurrection of Jesus, called the Christ.
2. Bob G+ wrote:
Here is the problem, as I sense it right now. The official, and I mean official, beliefs of the Episcopal Church are reflected in the BPC and Canons. They are orthodox, even though we find some who disagree for various theological and political reasons.
We have leaders and individuals who are not orthodox. They make all kinds of pronouncements and declarations about this or that enlightened idea, or move the furniture around, or let the unwashed take bread, but they do not proclaim the official belief statements of the official church. Their statements and beliefs may be embarrassing to many and certainly do present to the non-aware public a picture of the official beliefs of the Church to be something other than what it really is.
I easily claim to the parish in which I work and the people I know, "This is what we believe," as reflected in the official documents of the Church (so many younger non-Episcopalians, more Evangelical Christians I know around here are picking up the BCP and using it because in it they find the faith of Jesus Christ). What other people say or claim or proclaim in their various offices or persons are nothing but opinions. Opinions that will either grab hold and be right by God's doing or will dissipate and disappear - over time. Spong will not prevail and the more attention people give him the longer he stays in the limelight and has a hearing in the general public.
Yes, absolutely, there must be concerns about what people are taught and encouraged to believe and do. The solution, however, is not the all-too-worldly attempts to solve the problem that we are currently engaged in - it looks more like bitter, partisan, Washingtonian politics than how God calls the Church to act.
I'm not afraid, even though we may well have to go through a season of disbelief or wrong teaching and exampling from our primary leadership - but they are not God or the God's Church in its longevity.
This is, however, the history of the historic Church! Nothing new is going on! This generation will be gone in 15 years - God's time frame spans many more years. This is God's Church and He is well able to care for it, reform it, change it, and its people - and all the change that happens will not at all be what we expect or want. His ways are not ours' and our understanding is so limited.August 17, 8:47 am | [comment link]
3. Jon wrote:
Thanks to Bob for his thoughtful post. (I really liked #1 too.)
What puzzles me about what Bob says, however, is that he seems to view TEC's BCP as immutable, as though what it contains is not dependent on whatever the very human members of a particular GC say it contains. I think his line of thinking would be a lot sounder if we had in TEC something parallel to the U.S. Constitution with the concomitant safeguards placed for the legislature passing bills that contradict it and safeguards making it extremely difficult to change it. As someone recently pointed out on T19, it is a widespread mistake to think TEC's polity was created based on the Constitutional model of the late 1790s U.S. Govt. Rather it was based on the earlier Articles of Confederation. We lack a judiciary that can strike down bills passed that violate core principles, and the BCP is relatively easy to change, as long as a simple majority of delegates and bishops agree to it.
Rather than Bob's certainty that the attacks on creedal apostolic faith will mysteriously vanish when Spong and a few others die, I'd suggest he might ponder the realistic shrewd observation of David Booth Beers in the piece we are all commenting on:
Indeed. When the next BCP revision occurs, and folks like Bob are shocked to see major steps taken to weaken the proclamation of creedal faith (I am not here talking about the issue of human sexuality), Beers successor will rightly to say to them: "It seems like you haven't been paying attention to what's been coming for 30 years and that's naive."August 17, 9:43 am | [comment link]
4. Chip Johnson, cj wrote:
All three comments are right on track! With one additional note:
But, we have been into this 'mode of change' for the past three generations, beginning with the 'situational ethics' dilemma of the 50's, followed by the 'social constructs' of the 60's and 70's, the Civil Rights movement (which gave everyone the 'rights' to do as they jolly well pleased, as the free expression of their psyche), the taining of our present class of episcopacy in the seminaries which had been stripped of God, and NOW we wonder why the Church is H—-bound in a large basket?
The Church and her leaders have failed us (and themselves, and her) miserably, we do not need more 'retired' attorneys and failed business executives as sitting bishops, we need pastors of pastors of sheep, leading us in, and into, the ways of Christ crucified for the sins of men, leading the way to, and demonstrating, a repentant and reformed lifestyle, not a group of self-serving egomaniacs, who care nothing about the lives and souls of their cures; but are only concerned with their social status and tea party invitations.
Chip Johnson+, cj[comment link]
5. Phil wrote:
I'm not so sanguine as Bob G+, principally because I think these statements miss the mark:
"Their statements and beliefs may be embarrassing to many ..."
In fact, I see no evidence that many people at all find the teachings of ECUSA's leaders to be either embarrassing or cause for concern. To the contrary, these leaders are hailed as conquering heroes who speak inerrantly in their theological pronouncements. What's more, we have +++Williams, ++Sentamu and ++Harper (of Ireland) giving what might be the coordinated line that ECUSA is completely orthodox - nothing to see here.
Absent more widespread concern at the misleadings of a Schori, a Chane, a Spong, etc., I have trouble seeing from where the pressure for a change in direction is supposed to come.August 17, 10:24 am | [comment link]
6. Reason and Revelation wrote:
Another thing that ++Sentamu (and ++Harper) omit is that, even if they found some clever way to explain away ++Spong as now retired or ++Shori as having just mixed up her words a little, the reality is that bishops only really exist to provide guidance and structure as shepherds to the actual parishes. And yet there is full toleration of all sorts of heterodoxy at the parish level every single day all over the country. It's not enough for a bishop to run through the Nicene Creed on Sunday and then call himself or herself in line with orthodoxy to satisfy the Communion. They are leaders and shepherds, not once-a-year inspirational speakers. Episcopalians all over this country refuse to say parts of the Creed each Sunday (or actually change some words), that is quietly okayed by the priest, and the bishop lets it ride. At some point, you have to call a spade a spade. This is not a via media between a Pope and congregationalism. This is just chaos.August 17, 10:38 am | [comment link]
7. Jon wrote:
Great posts all.
I totally agree with the point made in #6. I can't stress strongly enough the degree to which the doctrinal drift has reached the parish level. The issue is NOT just bad bishops. Partly because I am so low church myself, with a healthy skepticism for prelacy in general, I could live with TEC if it was just a number of apostate bishops. My problem is the degree to which books by Spong and Borg and others have become so very popular in parish bookstores and are used in Sunday school classes. My problem is the way the unbelief has penetrated to weekly sermons delivered by local rectors. (And by the way, my problem is not just with the heresy that is spoken, but even more with the orthodoxy that is erased: the erasure in sermon life of talking about sin and the Devil and the need for grace and forgiveness through Christ Jesus and his Cross alone.)August 17, 11:18 am | [comment link]
8. Reason and Revelation wrote:
To be more clear, I do not think that someone who refuses to utter all the words of the Creed should be disciplined or that this should go straight to the Archbishop of Canterbury. That doesn't even happen in the Catholic Church. However, it's the sheer prevalence of the practice, accompanied by a whole litany of common heterodoxies that we've all seen, that is indicative. Our Church is long past some "dividing line." We've passed that dividing line for decades, really.August 17, 11:24 am | [comment link]
9. William#2 wrote:
Yes, Bob G+, isn't it pretty to think so.August 17, 11:38 am | [comment link]
10. Timothy Fountain wrote:
Remember the (in)famous Donna Bott? "We don't care about scripture/theology/morality, we're just Episcopalians." She's a lay leader, and just a very public example of what John Stamper points out in #7 - the false teaching is going on all over the place at the congregational level.
11. Jimmy DuPre wrote:
The underlying theology of the BCP was reformed prior to 1979. The revised BCP is Armenian, especially in the catechism. It makes a nice clear logical argument to say that the fruit ( rotten fruit that is) of the 1979 revision is almost 30 years of sliding into apostasy, culminating in GC 2003.
12. Pb wrote:
#7 nailed it. We can live with bad bishops but this problem starts in seminary and it infects all areas of church life. My diocese promotes labyrinths, Barbara Brown Taylor (or is it the other way around), and Marcus Borg because "God gave us a mind." We have become Yeats' Magi. "Being by Calvary's turbulence unsatisfied, seeking to find once more, the uncontrollabe mystery on the bestial floor."August 17, 11:55 am | [comment link]
13. libraryjim wrote:
"The world is a dangerous place to live — not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."—Albert EinsteinAugust 17, 11:56 am | [comment link]
14. Jon wrote:
I am grateful for Jimmy D's courage in raising the problem of semi-Pelagianism, including and especially amongst conservatives. He's done this more than once at T19. I agree with everything he just said.
C.S. Lewis points out that there is often unconscious agreement between two "sides" who are in violent disagreement, something that an outsider might be able to see but which the disputants do not.
As a person rooted in the Lutheran and Pauline understanding of the bound will, the "Simul Iustus", and Sola Gratia, it is striking to me the degree to which most liberals and conservatives are united in a semi-Pelagian understanding of the faith—and against which the Reformers, including and especially all the early classical Anglicans (Cranmer, Hooker, Donne, etc.) were in such sharp reaction. Our beloved Fitz Alison has written a great book about the shift in Anglicanism away from that classical view called THE RISE OF MORALISM—it's great!August 17, 11:56 am | [comment link]
15. Occasional Reader wrote:
J. Stamper and J DuPre,
16. C.B. wrote:
I think the importance of Anderson statement lies here:
Anderson has responded to Arora. His statement includes the following shot.
"At the end of the day, John Sentamu should change his mind about TEC's orthodoxy or, if the Archbishop, or his press officer, or both, continue to regard TEC as orthodox in its doctrine, then that raises questions about their standard for Anglican orthodoxy."
He is trying to goad the ABY and the ABC into disciplining TEC or else they too will be suspect. Let's see if it backfires.August 17, 12:33 pm | [comment link]
17. Occasional Reader wrote:
Or, better, the ELCA. My point is that this is not a good time to divide the orthodox around issues where differences have always been tolerated within catholic Christianity. That's all.August 17, 12:36 pm | [comment link]
18. Timothy Fountain wrote:
#15 OReader - thanks for that pointed spelling correction! I am 1/2 ArmEnian.
19. C.B. wrote:
18 - Is it wise to do this by calling into question the ABY's own commitment to "Anglican orthodoxy" if he does not agree with him?August 17, 12:59 pm | [comment link]
20. Jon wrote:
Quick note to #15:
21. Jimmy DuPre wrote:
I just read a biography of CSL. It is safe to say that whether or not he believed in free will, he certainly did not make much use of it in his relationships with the opposite sex. Romans 7 was writ large as they say. It did not diminish my respect for him as a Christian thinker; in fact I connected with his weaknesses generally speaking.August 17, 3:43 pm | [comment link]
22. Militaris Artifex wrote:
#3, John Stamper,
I think you need to re-read his comment. I can find no place in it where he suggests that the "attacks will vanish." What struck me about his post was rather what it says about the permanence of human institutions, and that is what TEC is. God's church, the one holy, catholic and apostolic Church, i.e., the body of Christ, is NOT TEC, or even the Anglican Communion, although one can make the case that both of the latter are a part of Christ's body. In point of fact, the results of the test of whether the "new thing" that TEC is proclaiming with respect to the full inclusion of everyone in all orders of the church is, or is not, in accord with God's will, will not likely be completed in my lifetime (I am almost 62). Rather, it will be witnessed by those who come after many of us, whether in a decade, a century or longer. It is altogether possible that, if it is NOT in accord with His will, TEC will cease to exist in any meaningful sense of the term.
23. Militaris Artifex wrote:
#19 C. B., wrote in response to #18 Timothy Fountain:
24. Jon wrote:
Hi Martial Artist (#22). The straightforward meaning that most of us gave to Bob's post (#2) is the following (which I paraphrase):
Hey guys. You are right that there are some unorthodox leaders in TEC. You're definitely right about that. But the official theology of TEC is in the BCP. And it is orthodox. Furthermore, these unorthodox guys inside TEC are only a passing fad. We'll only be have to hear this kind of heresy inside TEC for another 15 years—it's just a temporary season of unbelief inside TEC."
That's the most straightforward meaning to give what Bob wrote, since the first several paragraphs are not about the Church Universal (i.e. the Invisible Church) but specifically about TEC as an institution.
If Bob was trying to say that TEC as a whole was on a withering dying course of heresy (but that we should not be dismayed because that doesn't affect the church catholic, our Lord's invisible bride) then naturally everyone on this thread would agree with him, including David Anderson! But if he was then his first several paragraphs were very misleading.August 17, 4:42 pm | [comment link]
25. C.B. wrote:
23- In all honesty I cannot see this is as other than a rhetorical device (or prospective rhetorical question), not as an accusation.
Well seeing as Arora ( and I assume he did not speak without the permission of the ABY) took Anderson's last statement to be an accusation against the ABY, I predict he will find the statement -
"At the end of the day, John Sentamu should change his mind about TEC's orthodoxy or, if the Archbishop, or his press officer, or both, continue to regard TEC as orthodox in its doctrine, then that raises questions about their standard for Anglican orthodoxy."
- to be something more than a rhetorical device.August 17, 7:08 pm | [comment link]
26. Militaris Artifex wrote:
Well, I will leave it up to Bob G+ to clarify what is intent was, should he still be following this thread, but I did want to share the reflections it triggered in me. You may very well be right. But then again, the two interpretations are not necessarily mutuall exclusive, either.
27. rob k wrote:
No. 24 & others - Your assertion that the Church Universal is the invisible church is a belief that is not shared by Catholics, Roman, Eastern, or Anglican. The "visible" church, as you call it, is not a human institution.August 17, 7:11 pm | [comment link]
28. Phil wrote:
C.B. - as I pointed out at both SF and Fr. Jake's, Arora's reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired. Perhaps the job of responding to Canon Anderson's latest article could be entrusted to a more skillful member of the ABY's staff.August 17, 7:17 pm | [comment link]
29. Pageantmaster ن wrote:
Canon Anderson's words refer to understanding of American orthodoxy, not the ABY's orthodoxy. On a plain reading his words are quite clear.
Similarly Arora's words should be read as a defence and clarification of the ABY's words which we saw through the 'lens' of Mr Petre's reporting. It is within his remit to clarify what the ABY said, assuming he had authority to do so, not to attack Canon Anderson as some are interpreting it.
Of course Mr Arora may not be as orthodox as the ABY.
Some days I sit and think. Other days I just sit!!August 17, 7:19 pm | [comment link]
30. Christopher Hathaway wrote:
31. Bob G+ wrote:
9. William#2 wrote: "Yes, Bob G+, isn't it pretty to think so."
Well, I don't quite know what you mean, but my faith rests not in man, but in the power of God to do with His Church what needs to be done.August 18, 12:06 pm | [comment link]
32. William#2 wrote:
Bob G+, its nice to speak with you. I apologize for the obscure Hemingway quote from "The Sun Also Rises," near the end of the book a female character wistfully talks about what could have been, and Jake says in the book's last line, "Isn't it pretty to think so." See comments 22 and 24 above, Bob G.+ If you truly believe what you seem to be saying (and I apologize if this analogy seems uncharitable) then you resemble the frog which has been boiled in the Episcopal pot.
33. Bob G+ wrote:
William (#32) -
34. Bob G+ wrote:
Sarah Hey - I bet we do! You might be surprised.August 18, 4:59 pm | [comment link]
35. William#2 wrote:
Sarah, if #33 is an olive branch from our last talk, I accept. If its not, I accept anyway!
36. Bob G+ wrote:
William#2 (36) -
My hope is built on nothing less
When darkness veils His lovely face,
His oath, His covenant, His blood
When He shall come with trumpet sound,
If we would spend more time focusing on living out in prayer and action such things as patience, kindness, gentleness, self-control, contrition, humility - well, we would all be acting far more within God's Way (His Kingdom's way) of things rather than using the weapons of this world as we try to prove to God and one another our own purity, virtue, rightness as we look askance at those putrid sinners over there who disagree with us.
Living in the negative - it is faithless and defeatist. It is the way of the Enemy of our Faith! I have faith in God, and I don't believe in magic.August 18, 5:52 pm | [comment link]
37. William#2 wrote:
Bob G+ when a lie is being told, its not "living in the negative" to say so and stand against it, nor is it faithless and defeatest, quite the opposite. Nor is it using the "weapons of this world" to uphold the truth revealed by God in His word to those who would lie about that as well. I can prove nothing to God, or you. Enjoy your hymn singing tomorrow.August 18, 11:01 pm | [comment link]
38. Bob G+ wrote:
William#2 - You misunderstood my post. It is the means and methods being used to "uphold" the truth that are worldly, not the upholding of the truth itself. The conservatives are no less corrupted by our culture than are the liberals, it is just corruption by a different name and in different areas. To not understand this is to suffer the same kind of blindness that conservatives accuse the liberals of suffering - "the liberals are blind to how they have been corrupted by the world." So are the conservatives.
As Anderson points out, there are people within TEC in the US who do not believe traditionally or who have a very difficult time believing and wear their difficulty or disbelief on their proverbial sleeves for all to witness. As York points out, there are people in TEC in the US who are orthodox and who abide by the core teachings of the Church historical and universal (for Anglicans, as expressed in the Chicago-Lambeth Quadrilateral). The official teachings of the Church as expressed in her official documents are orthodox.
How we then deal with all of this from both perspectives is what will constitute negative, faithless, and defeatist attitudes and actions. The world corrupts both sides and the schemes of both sides as they campaign for victory over their theological opponents has become more worldly than godly. The world looks at the fruit of our actions and words and sees little difference from the most acrimonious and hypocritical politicking in Washington.
But again, there is nothing new under the sun and this present conflict is nothing new for Anglicanism or Christianity. God has seen us through before and He will again – my faith is built on nothing less. Hopefully, I will be more motivated to love God and my enemies and strive to realize the Fruits of the Spirit in my live and in the lives of my parishioners rather than victory of and enforcement of a particular theological perspective that is not an essential as expressed in our Anglican way (again, the Chicago-Lambeth Quadrilateral).August 19, 6:57 am | [comment link]
39. rob k wrote:
Thanks, Bob G. - Wm. #2 should remember Christ's promise that the gates of Hell will not prevail against the Church. If he has his own definition of the Church, or when ECUSA became "not the church" he should tell us.August 19, 10:34 pm | [comment link]
40. William#2 wrote:
Rob K, actually I do remember. Jesus proclaimed that Peter's confession He was the Christ was the rock upon which He would build His church that the gates of hell would not prevail against. However, your church refused to say this at your last General Convention. And your PB said there are "many" paths to salvation and Christ is just one of them.
41. Bob G+ wrote:
William#2, how often do you ever stop and wonder - actually ask God - "Might I be wrong?" "Might I be the one who doesn't understand?" My first presumption is, "I'm can we be the one that is wrong." Simply because I may not agree with you does not mean I do not understand. This is another aspect of our larger problem - things have gotten to the point that unless we can all check-off the exact same boxes on a list, then we declare that those who do not check-off the exact same things are heretics and don't understand the true faith. I well understand what you are saying. Do you understand what I am saying?
Believe me (well, if you will), I am avoiding nothing. I have been in this "fight" from the beginning. That is part of the problem. We all are thinking wrongly and acting wrongly according to the ways of this world and not as God calls us. We need to stop acting this way - all of us. We can most certainly continue the hard, arduous, and terribly frustrating theological arguments as we seek God's Truth and His ways for humanity, but in a manner that are honoring to God rather than honoring to the divisive, dismissive, condescending, and proud means and ways of the world.
I'm not at all saying, "Stop fighting!" The Truth of God is always worth fighting for. This is what you don't understand, William#2. I'm saying, "The way we are fighting is absolutely counter productive and does nothing to further the cause of Christ in the world" - in fact, we are simply confirming in so many of their minds that we all are a bunch of hypocrites.August 20, 10:54 am | [comment link]
42. William#2 wrote:
Bob G+, as charitably as I can respond, you haven't pointed out yet where I am wrong in anything I have said in this dialogue. And I think I understand you completely. Your church is led by people who deny Christ and you know this; apparently you don't believe that the beliefs of your leadership actually reflect the beliefs of the church's members; and you don't think there will be any consequences because Jesus is going to save everybody no matter what we do.
43. Jon wrote:
Hi Bob G. I am wondering if it is possible whether you are misunderstanding some of us (and vice versa). Is it possible that, when you ask William # 2:
... is it possible you are talking about the presenting issue of homosexuality? Because (as the elves so often gently direct us to do) that isn't the focus of this thread. David Anderson's piece was on basic theological propositions (Jesus rising from the tomb, his Atonement for sins, salvation from Christ and his Cross alone, the Virgin Birth, Jesus as fully and uniquely God (and Man), the Trinity, etc.) which almost all Christians at all times have believed and indeed have required and as absolutely essential parts of the faith—propositions which Anderson was claiming have been increasingly abandoned by many folks in TEC.
So when you ask William if he has ever asked himself whether he might be wrong, are you suggesting these basic fundamental faith claims that he and Anderson should be wondering if they are wrong about? I.e. are you asking them to back off from being so certain that Jesus rose from the dead—or in believing in a Triune God. Is that what you are suggesting we should be questioning?
If you are just refering to the presenting issue of homosexuality as a thing on which you want both sides to reflect on being possibly mistaken, that's ok. But that's not what this thread was about.
Actually that's what I love about Anderson's piece. It's not that the presenting issue isn't important—it's just that debate around it quickly gets turned into whether somebody is loving to gay people or not. If we provisionally suspend talking about it, just for a single discussion, it's valuable because it enables traditionalists to form common cause with people who might not agree with them on the issue of homosexuality but who would be shocked to discover the degree to which OTHER fundamental doctrines of the church are being discarded with equal abandon.August 20, 3:49 pm | [comment link]
44. Bob G+ wrote:
William (#43), I simply asked you if you honestly and truly consider that your current positions or thoughts could be wrong – how active are you in seeking God to show where you may be wrong. You didn't answer my question, by the way. I'm not meaning to be condescending or accusatory, but I come across plenty of people who do not ask themselves, "Where am I wrong?" Do you believe that you know everything concerning God's will right now, so that you are not wrong in your beliefs right now?
Many people in leadership positions of this Church hold theological perspectives that I do not agree with. However, of those that I've talked to, they do not deny Christ. Perhaps they do deny certain theological perspectives or interpretations of Scripture which I hold. Very few people have repudiated Jesus Christ - "denied Christ." To think that a majority of Episcopalians have "denied Christ" is a fallacy. Some have, regrettably, and they do garner a lot of attention, don't they? They do make great PR for those who are determined to win their battles, no matter the cost, don't they?
The Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church doesn't deny Christ - she claims Jesus as her savior (and I've heard those words come out of her mouth). She may well believe in Universalism (the theological perspective that all will be saved under Christ regardless of what path they chose to take because that is the finished work of Christ - which I disagree with, by the way), but that is different than "denying Christ." To deny Christ means that you deny the person of Jesus the Christ and any allegiance to him or his Gospel, and the leadership of this Church does not do that even if they hold heterodox theological positions. Besides, she does not determine the official teachings of the Church in the expression of her theological opinions, regardless of the position she holds.
William, what form of the faith do you practice? From what you wrote, I assume you are not an Episcopalian. Have you ever been? I'm asking to better understand what your perspective. To me, right now, I cannot say whether I think you understand this Church and its polity or not.August 21, 10:35 am | [comment link]
45. Bob G+ wrote:
John (#44) - my comments don't pertain to homosexuality at all, but to how we are going about seeking and determining God's Truth and the way we deal with one another in the process. How is all this done within an Anglican way as opposed to other means? How do we deal with disagreements covering issues where historically there has been an allowance for even seemingly contradictory theologies - Calvinism vs Arminianism for example - to exist and still accepted as Christian? This pertains to the way York and Anderson are dealing with one another and their perceptions of the reality of the American situation.August 21, 1:58 pm | [comment link]
46. William#2 wrote:
Bob G+ I am willing to answer your questions. I understand your polity quite well. I was married to a cradle Episcopalian 26 years ago in a TEC church, became confirmed, completed EFM, served on vestry, sang in the choir, gave my time talent and treasure faithfully, raised my sons from infancy to baptism to adulthood. In the winter of 2003 after several months of wrestling with the truth I woke up one Sunday morning and told my crying wife i could not go to my church where all my closest friends were anymore. This is the thing that saddens me even today; all the friends I left behind. Later I became involved with some Episcopalians who were also leaving the church and they asked me to be the primary lay leader of a new church plant. I said yes. I no longer hold that position; we have a Rector who does. We are affiliated with AMiA, although I firmly self identify as a follower of Jesus Christ and have no interest in denominational separations whatsoever.
47. Jon wrote:
Thanks William. (Hey, I've got time for you buddy, even if you don't revere Anglicanism! Not sure I do myself anyway.)
Note to Bob: along the line of what William said… We absolutely agree with you about trying to talk gently and charitably and with awareness that our way is not the only Christian way: as long as the differences are still occuring in the same creedal ballpark. So for example Arminian vs. Calvinist strands of Anglicanism, or even better a view of the Real Presence that borders on pure memorialism, vs. the belief of Luther or the Anglo-Catholics and their extreme commitment to the Real Presence. One could list many others: what is the appropriate devotion due the Virgin Mary? Should one ever pray to a saint? And so on.
But please note that people as wildly different as (say) Martin Luther and Pope Benedict were in solid agreement on a small number of basic issues of apostolic faith, which were the subject of David Anderson's original post.
So what I want to do is suggest we table the question of "how should we speak to each other when we disagree about noncreedal issues" or "should we admit we might be wrong about noncreedal issues"—the thing you keep bringing up—because it isn't relevant. Well, unless…. unless you are suggesting that even about basic creedal issues it's wrong for a person to insist too strongly that he is right.
But let me assume that you also agree with us that there are a small number of absolute Christian truths we should all agree on, the things that bound together people as diverse as Luther and Pope John Paul, St. Jerome and Jonathan Edwards, Calvin and St. Francis.
In that case, the question you should be focused on is what Anderson and this thread have been about: namely is Anderson (and some other voices on this thread) correct in believing that over the last few decades there has been an increasing abandonment by bishops, clergy and laity in TEC of basic theological claims. I suggest that we should be talking about whether that is true, not whether we need to be open minded about whether God is Triune or whether Jesus rose from the Empty Tomb.August 21, 3:40 pm | [comment link]
48. Sarah Reks wrote:
#23 Martial Artist: "the facts on the ground"
I have never commented on a blog before, but as a member of Grace Church, Syracuse, I feel compelled to do so now. I am greatly saddened that David Anderson chose to use our church as a pawn in the power struggle occurring in the AC. Our parish is a strong witness for the love of our Lord Jesus Christ in the city of Syracuse. We have not "theologically or spiritually gone astray."
The event Mr. Anderson refers to in his article was the celebration of the feast day of St. David Pendleton Oakerhater, a Cheyenne priest canonized by the Episcopal Church in 1985. St. Oakerhater was baptized and ordained a deacon at Grace, Syracuse. He later was ordained a priest and established Christian schools and missions for his people in Oklahoma. Two new stained glass windows of St. Oakerhater were dedicated during the service. It was a glorious Eucharist and I can assure you that the creed was recited with gusto. The smudging ceremony was performed outside of the church at the start of the service. The Rev. James Knowles is pastor to the Whirlwind Mission founded by Oakerhater in Oklahoma and is not the rector of Grace.
It appears that Mr. Anderson deliberately omitted the facts to support his agenda and should be held accountable for the false impression he portrays in this article.
I invite you to read about David Pendleton Oakerhater and the events of the weekend: http://gracesyracuse.org/uploads/Oak.spi9.2.pdfAugust 22, 9:44 pm | [comment link]
49. Militaris Artifex wrote:
#49 Sarah Reks,
Thank you for the clarification. Please understand that my comment was not intended to defend Canon Anderson's position, but rather to counter what I viewed then, and still view, as the specious argument put forth by C.B. that Canon Anderson was somehow "calling into question" +York's commitment to "Anglican orthodoxy." As such, and in the absence of any knowledge to the contrary, I was taking Canon Anderson's statements at face value. If they are not factually correct, as your post would seem to demonstrate, then Canon Anderson will have to bear the consequences of any misstatements or misrepresentations he made. That, however, does not alter my opinion that C.B. was engaging in a stretch (at minimum) in interpreting Anderson's statement as an attack on +York's support of orthodoxy.
50. Bob G+ wrote:
Posts 49 and 50 highlight what I've been trying to articulate about the Church acting like the culture rather than the way God would have us behave toward one another at least and the world at most.
There are leaders and people of influence who choose to use half-truths, spin, or Washingtonian political antics to further their causes rather than relying on how God calls us to behave (or have faith that God is capable to dealing with these things). Neither the Liberals/Conservatives or Reappraisers/Reasserters are without fault.
I will say, and I tend toward the conservative side of things theologically, conservatives in this church have to face up to the fact that they have taken their que from the neo-conservatives currently in power in Washington (and including much of the politicized Religious Right). Winning is everything, the end justifies the means, and to hell with integrity if our juggernaut is furthered, and we must destroy our opponents. I've heard such very things from both prominent political and religious leaders. This is not the way of the Church or of Anglicanism.August 23, 12:30 pm | [comment link]
51. Jon wrote:
I agree with you 100%, Bob. It's always bad when people on ANY side decide that the end justifies the means and doctor facts to "prove their point." I bet everyone on this thread would agree that dishonesty (subconscious or otherwise) is always wrong.
Of course, I don't know that Anderson was dishonest or exactly what the facts are in this particular case. But yes, absolutely you are right that dishonesty is bad and you are also right that it is a big temptation anytime a person becomes a partisan in a fight.
That said, the larger issue remains, which is the general claim that over the last 4-5 decades the Episcopal church (seminary profs, bishops, clergy, and laity) has steadily moved from a place of almost unanimous agreement with classic creedal belief to a a much greater degree of doubt or denial. That's the claim Anderson (and many others) are making. If true, it's important. And that is worth talking about.August 23, 1:23 pm | [comment link]
52. Militaris Artifex wrote:
#51, Bob G+,
is a reference to Canon Anderson's inappropriate behavior (as alleged by Ms. Reks), rather than anything I wrote in response to her comment.
If you believe that I have been in any way other than respectful of her comments, I would appreciate a further explanation, as that was certainly not my intent.
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Martial Artist, I was not offended at all by your comments. My point in providing this information is reinforced by the comments of BobG and John Stamper. The "facts on the ground" are not always accurate and honest. We must never allow our integrity to slip in order to win the day no matter what side we are on. I have emailed David Anderson and have requested he remove the deceptive description of the service at Grace from his article.
54. Bob G+ wrote:
Martial Artist - No, I don't think you have been disrespectful.August 23, 10:41 pm | [comment link]
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DEAR KELLY: Something recently happened that's really bothering me, and I don't know what to do.
My parents divorced when I was in seventh grade, and now I'm a junior. My mom started dating a few months after the divorce and always seems to have a boyfriend. One guy lived with us briefly because they went out for over a year, but most of the guys last a few months.
I've known most of my friends since middle school and some even from elementary. So they know my mom pretty well and are used to seeing her with a different guy all the time. People ask me all the time why my mom isn't remarried and why she struggles to hold down a relationship. I just say she doesn't want to get remarried because my dad burned her so bad when he left her for someone else.
But, honestly, I ask myself the same question.
In the past three years I have had two really serious boyfriends (both lasting over a year) and about three semi-boyfriends that last only a few weeks or months.
Recently, my really good friend said something that really upset me.
"You're just like your mom; you always have to have a boyfriend. You don't know how to be alone," she said.
I was pretty stunned. When I asked around my group of friends, everyone said they feel the same way.
I was upset at first, but now I'm more scared and bothered. I don't want to always need a man and go from guy to guy, never finding the right guy to make me happy. I see my mom so upset each time she breaks up, but then she moves on to another guy. I don't want to be like that.
How do I not become like my mom when I've been raised by her and live with her? Just because my mom always has to have a boyfriend, does that mean I will turn out the same?
Desperate Daughter
DEAR DESPERATE: Awareness can be a huge part of change. If we become aware of something that is important, we can be conscious of how we are living our life and the choices we are making.
When we are aware of our habits, we can change them and free ourselves of the things in our lives we don't like.
Awareness of your choices can give you more self control.
Your friend's comment hit a nerve and forced you to look at the role boys play in your life. Perhaps, without knowing it, you were jumping from boy to boy and following a similar pattern to that of your mom.
Now that you are aware, perhaps you will slow down on the dating thing and spend some time being single. Maybe some self evaluation is needed and you can see this as an "aha moment" in your life.
It sounds like your mom was hurt by your dad. People often respond to being hurt by putting up defenses to protect themselves. Maybe your mom is doing this. Maybe she hasn't met the right person to settle down with or maybe she wants to get you through high school before she jumps into another serious relationship.
Whatever her reason, you should avoid judging her.
If she's been a good mom and taken good care of you, back off and stop being so critical of her. Learn from her.
Have you talked with your mom and shared your concerns about not wanting to be the girl who doesn't know how to be without a boyfriend?
Usually that girl is insecure and needs a boyfriend to make her feel important and special. Is that you? Do you move on quickly because the idea of being alone is too scary and you lack the confidence to be single? Are you needy or unhappy without a boyfriend?
Perhaps by talking with your mom, you can learn more about yourself (and her) and change future choices regarding relationships.
If you aren't in any relationship now, see this as your time for personal growth. Commit to being single for six months. Examine the relationship you have with your dad. Work on developing friendships with guys. Hang out with your girlfriends.
Become an independent woman who is confident and self-assured. Being single can give you time to discover who you are and give you a chance to become the person you want to be.
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Diamantinasaurus (Greek for "Diamantina River lizard"); pronounced dee-ah-man-TEEN-ah-SORE-us
Woodlands of Australia
Historical Period:
Middle Cretaceous (100 million years ago)
Size and Weight:
About 50 feet long and 10 tons
Distinguishing Characteristics:
Large size; probable armor along back
About Diamantinasaurus:
Titanosaurs, the armored descendants of the sauropods, could be found all over the world during the Cretaceous period. The latest example from Australia is Diamantinasaurus, which is represented by a fairly complete, albeit headless, fossil specimen. Aside from its basic body shape, no one knows exactly what Diamantinasaurus looked like, although (like other titanosaurs) its back was probably lined with scaly armor plating. If its scientific name (which means "Diamantina River lizard") is too much of a mouthful, you may want to call this dinosaur by its Australian nickname, Matilda.


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Dancing the world away
A little different style here, but I wanted to try and see how I like just posting a lot of pictures and kind of bouncing off of interesting ones.
So, I do Ballroom Dancing. I started my first year and became Assistant Captain my second semester at Clark, and after my third I had become Captain. Ballroom is a sport (club) (team) (we're not really sure what we are) that you can go far if you're dedicated to it.
I've had a few partners, (three) including Michelle and Jenna, two of my best friends.
The cool thing about dancing – is that you understand people so much more through dancing with them. It's hard to explain – but if I need to take a step forward, I need to explain that to my partner through my movements and at the same time feeling what she thinks I want to do – and then messing up, doing something wrong, and laughing about it. You gain a connection – both through body and mind – and learn
The club is really growing. We've upped our attendance by 200% and are really pushing our membership of both the club and team. We host classes for both Clark (the first three) and coaches who come in to teach the team (last two).
And recently, I just got new pants! It sounds like a strange thing to be excited about, but they look super cool and make my torso look funny. Also, major wedgie.
Ballroom is just this really unique skill that is a cool thing to learn as you try and "become an adult" (when does that happen?). And it's a nice way to get to know a new you and a new skill. And hey, dancing with beautiful people isn't so bad either. And using the really cool new dance space!
Sorry, I keep trying to end it, and thinking of another final word – in the end, Ballroom becomes a family to you. It goes along a little with understanding people more than you thought you could, but then beyond that, you all share this really special, unique, and strange interest. It's something not many of us could say we knew going in we wanted to try, but it's something all of us know going out that changed us for the better. Through the pain, tears, laughs, and joys, through the long nights and the early mornings, we stuck through it all together, and found a family.
Sep 19 2013
Great post, Kevin! But be careful-after that feast in the last pic you may not be able to fit into those torso-obscuring pants.
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Members of the Fractured Fairy Tales Book Club at the public library will get to speak with the author of their featured book next month, but he will not be there in person. Instead, the library has arranged for Christopher Healy to meet with the club members – children in roughly the third through sixth grades and their parents – by Skype. Healy will participate in a half hour question-and-answer session, part of the club's overall hour-long monthly meeting on Sept. 29, according to Leslianne Costello, the youth services librarian. The club's September book is Healy's "The Hero's Guide to Saving Your Kingdom." "I'm so excited to kick off the new year of our Fractured Fairy Tales Book Club with a Skype meeting with this author," Costello said. She learned of the opportunity to host the Skype visit when she was exploring activities for the September meeting and noticed on Healy's website that he is available to meet with groups through that remote technology. Costello said the club welcomes new members and that the Sept. 29 event is open to all.
J Mascis, 'Tied to a Star'
On his second solo album, the Dinosaur Jr. frontman goes acoustic and heartfelt.
Boston-area To Do list
Jeff Bridges The actor's self-titled album was produced by longtime friend, Grammy-winning T Bone Burnett. Sept. 3 at 8 p.m. $40-$75. The Wilbur Theatre, 246 Tremont St., Boston. 617-248-9800. www.thewilbur.com
This day in history
Tuesday, Sept. 2, is the 245th day of 2014. There are 120 days left in the year.
Mary Lentz and Bonnie D'Orlando hold Nahant history
Mary Lentz, of Museum & Collector Resource in Concord (and wife of Harvard Art Museums director Tom Lentz), was at the Nahant Historical Society this week to catalog inventory for the organization.
Red Sox lose in 10 innings
The Sox split four games in St. Petersburg and now head to New York to play the Yankees.
Confident Castillo proceeds — slowly
Rusney Castillo was 0 for 3 Monday in the Gulf Coast League and will play Wednesday for Double A Portland.
Inauspicious timing of Atlantic City's woes for Mass. casino supporters
Specialists see implications from casino closures in New Jersey for gambling in Mass.
As students move in, city vows vigilance on safety
A set of stiff realities has kicked in as thousands of students return to America's college capital this week.
Amid Senate gridlock, ambassador positions remain unfilled
One-fourth of all ambassador-ranked posts — 55 out of 226 positions — await confirmation.
A Market Basket store, returning to life
The unglamorous but satisfying routine of running a supermarket has returned in full.
Candidates try and make TV ads resonate
Candidates and super PACs hope they have the answer to creating ads that resonate.
When something medically goes wrong
Each year in Massachusetts hospitals, hundreds of patients are injured because of serious medical errors and other safety problems.
Abolish Vatican statehood
Politically empowered Catholicism yields now and then to the amoral pressures of realpolitik.
Russell Henley grabs 1-shot lead at TPC Boston
Henley is the man to catch after shooting a 6-under-par 65 at TPC Boston to get to 12 under.
Construction makes Mass. Turnpike a road to misery
The $22.3 million Boston project has ruined the usual August respite from traffic.
A growing group effort to help low-wage workers
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President Kaler to deliver second State of the University address Feb. 28
February 21, 2013
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University of Minnesota President Eric Kaler will outline his plans to move the university forward during the upcoming year in his second State of the University address on Thursday, Feb. 28 from 3:30-4:30 p.m. at the Coffman Memorial Union Theater, 300 Washington Ave. S.E., Minneapolis.
There will be a moderated question-and-answer period following the address. Faculty, staff and students may submit questions in advance on this form.
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- 101 Dowell Hall, 2900 University Ave., University of Minnesota, Crookston
- 173 Kirby Plaza, 1208 Kirby Dr., University of Minnesota, Duluth
- Studio A, Humanities Fine Arts Building, University of Minnesota, Morris
- 419 University Square, 111 Broadway Ave. S., University of Minnesota, Rochester
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Tessa Taylor – Jurassic CockNov 23, 2009
Tessa Taylor learns to play golf from the legendary pornstar Ron Jeremy! He still has the ability to seduce any young babe he wants so it doesn't take long before the fat dick of this fatso is in Tessa Taylor's mouth! More pics to come later…
Tessa Taylor ready for golf in a very hot outfit! No wonder her coach couldn't concentrate!!
Tessa Taylor works on her swing with porn legend Ron "The Hedgehog" Jeremy!
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January 21, 2008
Albany-- Black and white pictures from the 1960's show a time of possible change and a man who helped to fight for it.
Now in 2008, color shows the product of that fight for freedom. People now sing for a different reason, the freedom they do have.
"It marks the dream of a man that has now become a legacy," said Apostle Charlene Glover.
Many recognize that things could have been different without the man with the dream, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. "To know what Dr. King fought for and what he has in turn carried on generation after generation, it's huge," said Senator Michael Meyer Von Bremen.
Those are huge and tough shoes to fill. But people today try to at least make strides many years after Dr. King's death. They are considered dreamers. Pamela Green-Jackson dreams of making a difference.
"I feel like that's what I'm doing through the Youth Becoming Healthy project, beginning to help that next generation come along regardless of the color of their skin or whatever their ailments may be. I just want to make the world a better place," said Green-Jackson.
Senator Michael Meyer Von Bremen dreams of helping those who can't help themselves.
"You just keep on looking at the person who maybe doesn't have that opportunity in life and try to reach out and make their life a little better than it might have been otherwise," said Meyer Von Bremen.
And Apostle Charlene Glover uses faith for her dream. She dreams like Dr. King by using the church to start a change from within.
"I believe that if you emancipate a person on the inside, and free them from the inside out, you can empower them to be anything else in the world that they dream to be or do," said Glover.
All three received awards for fulfilling Dr. King's dream and all three agree that they want to continue pushing his legacy forward. "To create that same legacy for our next generation so we may turn children and our young people around so they can be society impactors as well," said Glover.
It gives extra meaning now as they lift their voices to sing. They know that a King is possibly listening to the people who continue to change a black and white nightmare of a past into a colorful dream fulfilled.
A total of eight people received Dream Awards Monday night for their contributions to the community and their fulfillment of Dr. King's dream. They are Dr. CW Grant, Vivian Smith, Jane Willson, Dr. James L. Hill, Dr. James Woods, Pamela Green-Jackson, Apostle Charlene Glover and Senator Michael Meyer Von Bremen.
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Over the last few weeks of the off-season, the loyal members of BTSC have voted in polls to help capture who the most valuable former or present players for our beloved Pittsburgh Steelers are, if drafted as 21 yr. old rookies in Today's NFL. Every single vote and comment was appreciated by the author, thank you.
We interrupt the regularly scheduled post for a brief announcement.
Neal Coolong and all the writers, ROCK!
A round of applause for where Neal is taking Behind The Steel Curtain. This site and the work some of our fellow Steelers fans are doing here, has become one of the reasons I am proud to be a Steelers fan. The newer writers have been an impressive addition to the quality writers already present on the staff. Kudos.
Back to the Who Ya Got.
The Results as picked by you the reader.
QB - Ben Roethlisberger (56%)
RB - Jerome Bettis (50%)
WR - Hines Ward (32%), John Stallworth (19%), Plaxico Burress (12%)
TE - Heath Miller (92%)
Center - Mike Webster (63%)
Guards - Alan Faneca (68%), David Decastro (5%)
Tackles - Jon Kolb (16%), Tunch Ilkin (5%)
Fever's additional pick, as chosen by me, Lynn Swann who somehow only received 7 % of the vote in his category.
I am a little sad my favorite Steelers player of all time wasn't selected, a special salute to Franco Harris, the Immaculate Reception, and the legion of fan's who make up the Italian Army.
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High Capacity Magazines
Evidently, the agenda no longer needs to be hidden from public view. With President Obama winning another term and Democrats retaining control of the Senate, the move to fundamentally change America from within has begun, with a vengeance.
Restrictive gun laws in the State of California require low capacity magazines for handguns, fixed magazines for "assault" rifles, and a whole lot of running around just to be granted the right to carry a concealed firearm.
Now, Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), who has championed gun control in her state for decades and who co-wrote the original assault weapons ban enacted by the federal government in the 1990′s, wishes to bring even more stringent federal mandates to the land of the free.
What is being proposed by Feinstein is the most significant attack on the second amendment in history. It would essentially ban thousands of firearms and require gun owners to turn them over to the Federal government.
ShootingWire.com reports:
"I don't have the minutes of the meeting (yet), but sources tell me California Senator and longtime gun-hater Dianne Feinstein's legal staff held meetings on Friday with FTB/ATF legal staff to discuss a new "Assault Weapons Ban" Madame Feinstein would be looking to push through Congress if President Obama wins reelection.
"This same 'pretty good intelligence' says the items that would lead to a ban would ban pistol grips and 'high-capacity' magazines, eliminate any grandfathering and ban sales of 'weapons in possession'...
"In fact, the lack of interest in the idea surprised the California liberal's legal staffers. Apparently, they believe no logical person could possible disagree with them."
At a Congressional budget meeting in September of this year, Feinstein alluded to her desire to reintroduce federal assault weapons ban regulations similar to those she helped cosponsor and pass in 1994 during the Presidency of Bill Clinton:
"Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to say, once again, in legislation, weapons of war do not belong on our streets…"
Editor's Note: Yeah, the pesky Second Amendment has to be dealt with in the aftermath of the Obama mandate, right? I mean, isn't that what a 1.6% point national election win margin means, that every extremist, anti-constitutional item on Mr. Obama's agenda is now magical;y mandated as "the will of the people?"...Don't let the Progressives con you into thinking that there is a "mandate" for their destuctive agenda...this election mandated nothing!
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KNOXVILLE (WATE) - The Knox County Sheriff's Office says an investigation revealed there were no crimes committed by any of the officers involved in a deadly shooting at a Knox County trailer park in June.
Officials say the incident happened at a trailer park on Canton Hollow Road on June 20. Jordan Camp, 21, had barricaded himself inside a trailer and pointed a gun at officers multiple times.
Camp was wanted on two outstanding warrants of criminal assault and fleeing the scene of an accident.
The Knox County Office of Professional Standards says the KCSO Negotiation Team talked to Camp for two hours while SWAT team officers positioned themselves inside and outside the mobile home.
The office says Camp was warned not to point his semi-automatic rifle at officers, but did so on two occasions.
On the second occasion, he pointed the gun directly in a SWAT officer's face. The officer fired, as did other officers inside the home.
A ballistics report indicates officers fired 49 rounds, but Camp did not fire his weapon as originally believed.
An autopsy showed Camp was hit 17 times and died from multiple gunshot wounds.
SWAT team member Sgt. Mike Ledbetter was hit in the leg by a ricochet wound. He has returned to work as he continues to heal.
The Knox County District Attorney General's Office issued a letter on October 14 stating that upon review of the information, "the shooting does not rise to a level of criminal culpability with regard to any of the officers involved."
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WASHINGTON -- The U.S. immigration system would undergo dramatic changes under a bipartisan Senate bill introduced Wednesday that puts a new focus on prospective immigrants' merit and employment potential, while seeking to end illegal immigration by creating legal avenues for workers to come here.
The bill would put the 11 million immigrants in the country illegally (an estimated 740,000 in Florida) on a 13-year path to U.S. citizenship that would cost each $2,000 in fines plus additional fees, and would begin only after steps have been taken to secure the border.
The sweeping legislation also would remake the nation's inefficient legal immigration system, creating new immigration opportunities for tens of thousands of high- and low-skilled workers, as well as a new "merit visa" aimed at bringing people with talents to the U.S.
The "Border Security, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013" was filed around 2 a.m. Wednesday by Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York, one of the so-called Gang of Eight senators, including Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Florida. The group spent months putting together the 844-page bill.
Some Republicans criticized it as amnesty, while some groups on the left said it was unnecessarily punitive. President Barack Obama says the bill is a compromise that doesn't give anyone everything they want — including him. But he urges the Senate to move it forward.
Under the legislation, employers would face tough new requirements to check the legal status of all workers. Billions of dollars would be poured into border security, and millions of people who've been waiting overseas for years, sometimes decades, in legal-immigration backlogs would see their cases speeded up.
Overall, the changes represent the most dramatic overhaul to U.S. immigration law in more than a quarter-century, and Congress' first major attempt to confront the polarizing issue since bipartisan legislation in 2007 collapsed on the Senate floor.
The bill is the result of months of secretive negotiations among Schumer, Rubio, and the six other lawmakers: Democrats Dick Durbin, of Illinois, Robert Menendez, of New Jersey, and Michael Bennet, of Colorado; and Republicans John McCain, of Arizona, Lindsey Graham, of South Carolina, and Jeff Flake, of Arizona.
Said Rubio in a statement on Wednesday: "This bill marks the beginning of an important debate, and I believe it will fix our broken system ... While I believe this legislation is a strong conservative effort that will accomplish all these things and tries to make the best of the imperfect reality we face, it's not perfect. But I am also confident that an open and transparent process that welcomes public input is going to make it even better."
Even harder work lies ahead now that legislative language will become public for other lawmakers and groups on all sides to examine and react to. The Senate Judiciary Committee will hold hearings on the bill Friday and Monday and likely move to amend and vote on it in May, with action on the Senate floor expected later in the summer.
The conservative-controlled House also must act, and the outcome there is even more uncertain, although a bipartisan group of House members has also been working on a comprehensive immigration bill.
In South Florida, Miami-Dade Superintendent Alberto Carvalho and Miami-Dade School Board members cast their support behind the bill on Wednesday.
"For us, this is a matter of fairness, a matter of justice, and obviously a matter of law and order," said board member Carlos Curbelo on Wednesday during a break from their monthly meeting. "Our current, broken immigration system costs the school district over $20 million a year that no one reimburses us for."
"Often times we educate children that are undocumented," said Curbelo. "They spend 10 or 12 years in our schools only to face deportation or in other cases to be denied access to higher education. These children reach dead-ends after we have invested tens of thousands of dollars in them."
Maria Rodriguez, executive director for the Miami-based Florida Immigrant Coalition, welcomed the legislation.
"The Senate's Gang of 8 has made a serious step forward towards creating a new immigration system," she said in a statement. "We hope that this effort is supported by all of our Florida members of Congress, across party lines."
Under the bill, immigrants here illegally could gain a provisional legal status six months after enactment as long as they meet certain criteria, and if the Homeland Security Department has moved forward on plans to secure the border. They would remain in that provisional status for 10 years, able to work legally but barred from federal benefits like welfare or healthcare. After 10 years they could seek green cards conferring permanent legal status, and three years after that they could petition for citizenship.
They would have to pay a total of $2,000 in fines along the way, and at least hundreds more in fees, though that number has not been determined. Immigrants would be barred from seeking citizenship if they have been convicted of a felony or three or more misdemeanors, and no one who arrived in the country after Dec. 31, 2011, would be eligible.
Miami Herald reporter David Smiley contributed to this report.