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Jillian Harris Blogs The Bachelorette: Episode 9
July 10, 2012 at 3:19 pm , by Ladies' Lounge
On last night's episode, Emily was down to the final three bachelors. I remember this part of the process being so magical. We were in Maui, a place that most of you know I visit often, so it was a special place to me for many reasons. I actually have a very vivid memory—right before my date with Reid I had the morning to myself. I opened up the windows to my big, beautiful room, turned up the music, sipped my coffee and thought about how lucky I was. But it hadn't hit me yet that I was about to let go of someone who had become really special to me, so I don't envy Emily at this stage. You truly do have severe feelings for the final three guys. I can't speak for all of the bachelorettes, but I'm pretty sure that by the final two you know where your heart is headed, but at three there are still a lot of unanswered questions.
Let's talk about something that might be a bit controversial: Turning down the fantasy dates. I saw quite a few tweets last night from people saying "Good for Emily!" but to be honest I was really confused. If this were "real" life and we were at the point of saying I love you to someone, sleepovers would be happening. This doesn't mean I think you need to be doing the horizontal polka ladies; I just mean you have a very limited amount of time with this person. And further more, you have to remember there is no off camera or alone time together at this stage.
So think about it: Emily is trying to figure out who she is going to spend the rest of her life with outside of the TV show, but she's making a decision based on what all of us viewers will think. Do you know how many people have boldly asked me "How many guys did you sleep with while on the show?" Yes, I went on national television and made certain choices but that information is personal no one else's business. However, I do think that sexual chemistry is important when trying to decide who you're going to marry. Let's face it—it's human nature, and ignoring it because she's worried about what the rest of the world will think could very well be the same reason why engagement number two didn't work out. Maybe she'll decide to have overnight dates when she's down to the final two, but let's forget about the sexual chemistry for now. I think she should have accepted those overnight dates simply to get to know the guys more, but to heck with what we all think!
I still don't really understand the Sean attraction. She keeps saying that he's the perfect man, but I don't see that fire in their eyes. I thought it was funny that Emily brought up the fact that Sean was buddy-buddy with a lot of his ex-girlfriends. It kind of reminds me of a certain ex-boyfriend of mine, which is totally okay, but for me that fire, passion and attraction has to be there for a relationship to last a lifetime. Their conversation seemed really forced and awkward and it didn't feel like they were anywhere close to being engaged, so I guess it makes sense that he was sent home. Regardless, it's so tough to go home at this point. Do you guys remember my goodbye with Jason? I remember my heart being so broken that I didn't think I was going to wake up the next day. Unless you've been on this journey you can't understand how quickly you become invested in someone. You're learning everything about a person, the relationship advances quickly, and the whole time you're thinking that this person is for you, but you really don't know. It's devastating when you get let go at the very end. I feel for him.
There is something so magical about Jef and Emily. It's not like with Arie, where you can tell that they want to rip each other's clothes off. It's more unspoken, heart to heart. You feel like Jef will really take care of Emily and she's so herself with him—she has no problems being goofy and answering his questions. Speaking of which, I love that he probes her and digs deeper when she says something. I don't know if you guys have noticed but usually when there's a serious conversation on this show, you just get a lot of smiling and nodding. That's simply because there is so much going on around you, and in your head and your heart, that you aren't really thinking straight. I remember going on the show and everyone telling me "Oh, Jill you will be fine if you just be yourself," but then you jump on the crazy train and realize that you've never been in a situation like that before and you have no real frame of reference so it's harder than you think to just to "be yourself." When I notice those small details, like a genuine conversation, I know that something very powerful is happening.
Speaking of powerful, Emily and Arie totally had the sexual chemistry going on—they were 50 Shades of Grey all over each other! That chemistry is hard to find after having your heart broken so many times; I know from experience. So when you find it again, it's important to really embrace it but also probe a bit deeper. I do think they have a genuine emotional connection as well, and I love how they discussed Arie's relationship with Ricki. I liked his approach and thought it was very cool and mature of him, and more than I would have expected!
I have no idea who Emily is going to choose next week and I don't follow spoilers. Part of me says pick Arie, pick Arie! They have a connection that will carry them through the six months of hard times in the media after the show, which is so difficult to get through. But what about after that? I think Jef has what it takes to make it with Emily to her rocking years. Who do you think Emily will pick?
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22 Responses to "Jillian Harris Blogs The Bachelorette: Episode 9"
Written on July 10, 2012 at 8:43 pm, by Roberta
Jillian, I think Jef is the better fit for Emily for the long distance. They are pretty well matched. I think Arie will die down over time and because they don't talk all that much (just kisses)I think it will chill and then what are they based on, the foundation is there with her and Jef. Thanks for your post I enjoy it.
Written on July 11, 2012 at 7:40 am, by lori oravecz
First of all Emily is so fake! All that stiffing where's the tears? If you remember when she appeared on Bachelor, she said "I hope I don't sabotage this relationship like i have with all my past relationship". After watching her she seems to to get extreme pleasure from haveing man pour out there hearts, she baits them into telling her they love her,than poof! there gone! she loves dismissing them! Remember when one of the guys said that they didnt think it was a good idea to stay all night in the suite? Her response was…"He told me he didnt want to stay all night"! "DANG cuz I wanted to tell him that" She loves rejecting men! She didn't have to go on the show to find love! You can bet Men have been thowing them selfs at her all her adult life..If she is looking for what is best for "Rickey" she won't pick Arie,he is always traveling and he didn't seem to have any other family other than his Mother & Father also Arie's Mother seem to be rather cool&suspicious of Emily,and I must say I loved that Arie's Mother seem to knock Emily off her High horse!
Written on July 11, 2012 at 11:20 am, by Molly
I am really glad Emily didn't do the over-night dates! Not every relationship has sleep-overs at the point where you start to say "I love you."
I think Jeff is the MUCH better choice. I can see the chemistry, but chemistry (no matter how strong it was) will die down after years and years…Finding someone who gets you will never "die down."
Written on July 11, 2012 at 11:28 am, by Johnny Trapani
great write up Jillian…I like your spin on the overnight dates…
I think she picks Jef
Written on July 11, 2012 at 11:45 am, by joann
I have to say that I do think that Jeff is the better fit; there are so many things that can happen in life…. turns of events that we cannot predict or even imagine. Lusting after someone that much isn't healthy. In fact, it can be detrimental to your own growth and being.
A woman who is so completely loved and honored by a man will flourish in her own right. He will be there for her through life's ups and downs and will cherish the person inside, even if health, accidents, disfigurement, whatever occur. He will love the person inside and if she truly is what she says she is, she will do the same for him.
True love does need a physical chemistry….but that will soon fade if you're left at home time and time again while 'he' is out doing his thing and getting attention from the opposite sex. When a woman can trust her man and know in her heart that she is all he needs….she'll be turned on by his lifetime appeal to her. AND, a woman falls in love with her husband over and over again when he loves and honors their children….the biggest turn on ever!
I just wish them all the best…finding 'the one' is tough.
Written on July 11, 2012 at 1:59 pm, by Jill
Jef has been my pick since day one. I really hoped he would turn out to be a good guy and it seems he has. I wasn't 100% sure she would pick him but now that we are at the final 2, Jef is definitely the better pick for Emily.
I never got what she saw in Arie. Yes, there is passion there. Although I must admit that when he kisses her it makes me cringe. Not sure why. But when Jef kisses her it just seems so real.
No matter who she picks, I really hope they will both be very happy.
Written on July 11, 2012 at 3:07 pm, by Annette
I agree with Jillian, she is going to pick Arie. They love each other right from the beginning, and that attraction is going to get them through the hard times. He is the right choice for her.
Jef and her are buddies.
Written on July 11, 2012 at 5:40 pm, by Shelley P.
Emily is a breath of fresh air. She has morals, she is smart, she is gracious and cares about people. I think she is the best bachelorette ever. I wish her good luck and forever happiness. She made the right decision on the overnight visits, to be a good role model for her daughter and for young and older viewers alike to see someone with good character and wisdom. I think Jef is the right choice. He's more like her. I think Arie is not really into the domestic life.
Written on July 11, 2012 at 6:26 pm, by Jackie
Sorry guys but I don't think Emily is going to pick anyone. I believe she's going to walk away from both, maybe saying she just can't decide or just doesn't want to hurt either one. Oh brother!
Written on July 11, 2012 at 9:50 pm, by Doreen
I am really not feeling that either of these guys are suited for Emily..I think that Jef is still to young & that Arie & Emily relationship would be short lived..
Written on July 12, 2012 at 5:48 am, by jamjam
I think money is a huge concern with Emily, more than the right man. She wants to be prego and have someone take care of her. Not that there is a lot wrong with that, I just think she isn't quite as sincere and set as she pretends to be. And I think that with all of the plastic surgery she looks less attractive than she did with out it.
I hope she picks Jeff, there seems to be more substance between them.
Written on July 14, 2012 at 9:04 am, by Akesha
Very objective blog Jillian, I however think that Emily should pick the person she can't see herself living without at the moment and that is Arie. Emily seems to have a connection with Arie that I am not seeing with Jef, although Jef seems to be great on paper I don't think her love is as strong with him as it is with Arie. Hope she makes the right decision for herself and Ricki!
Written on July 14, 2012 at 9:43 am, by kim d
I would like to comment on how great it is to read your blogs, Jillian. They are honest, true and insightful.
Ever since Jillian was the Bachelorette my daughters and I have enjoyed watching the show. You are lovely. … Just sayin'.
Written on July 15, 2012 at 10:12 am, by Ralph
Physical chemistry, as someone else said, will not last. YUP, sort of like a one night stand, but, extended for 6 months to a year. Then it's back to finding the other part, L O V E Real love isn't about the physical part, its about sharing, caring and being thoughtful. And besides, with Arie, she would have to learn Dutch, and they would have to learn southern twang.
Written on July 18, 2012 at 1:50 pm, by Lynn
After Jillian was the Bachelorette I wanted to quit watching the show. I don't know how you can make comments about Emily when Ed had enough of you and left. Not to mention being on Extreme Make Over…. all you did was look into the camera for yourself and didn't seem to care about the project. I'm glad you're not on there anymore. I think you should blog about something you really know about and that's not men – that's for sure. Although you are very pretty, you are so wrapped up in yourself that no man will ever be able to break through the hardness. So sad.
Written on July 20, 2012 at 6:48 pm, by Piper
Emily loves Jeff but she is in love with Arie, big difference. She'd never really be happy with Jeff and if Aire was her choice and I believe he was, still is I'd think. Jeff should get out now. Guys like Aire might get cold feet but they come back and my guess is Arie will return and Emily will marry him. It would make for a good show and the stuff women dream of.
Written on July 22, 2012 at 3:56 pm, by Rachel
I know I may be old-fashioned (though I'm only 27), but my husband & I BOTH waited until marriage to have sex OR sleepovers. Some people take different moral stands regarding physical chemistry. My husband & I knew we loved each other well before we were married and we set guidelines in our relationship concerning how far was too far. Emily has done the same. To say that this may be the reason Engagement #2 didn't work out is harsh. Your engagement didn't work out either, so apparently you don't have one up on her in this area.
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NASHVILLE (AP) - The sponsor of a bill to boost the amount of money political groups can give to candidates and to do away with reporting requirements for donations by corporations has dropped an effort to revive the failed measure.
The bill sponsored by House Republican Caucus Chairman Glen Casada of Franklin on Wednesday received only 48 votes on the House floor - two short of the constitutional minimum to clear the chamber.
While Casada said Thursday morning that he had found enough votes to pass the bill in the House, but the clerk's office confirmed that he would need to gain a two-thirds vote in the committee that sets floor calendars.
Casada said he was withdrawing the bill in an effort to speed the end of the legislative session.
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Harry Bin Laden
By Erick Posted in Harry Reid | War — Comments (69) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
I do not remember at what point America decided to become a nation of losers. But Harry Reid is just the latest person to wage Osama Bin Laden's propaganda campaign for him and demand that we lose our war against terrorists who would like to kill us.
Harry Reid has declared the war lost. My only publishable thought on this matter is that this war is winnable and Harry Reid must not want to win. He has, in one sentence, given a propaganda victory to Al Qaeda that they themselves could not orchestrate. Reid has betrayed the American troops and betrayed the cause of freedom.
Harry Reid is not being a realist. He's being a tool for our enemy. The enemy is now using Reid's words in their own propaganda. Harry Reid should resign.
UPDATED by Erick: I have changed the quote to use Harry Reid's own words from this morning. Pitiful. Apparently, in his words, the war "is lost," but we should take 15 months to leave Iraq. Meanwhile, media in the Arab World is giving Reid's comment that the war "is lost" prominent placement in their news headlines.
You can read Senator Reid's defeatism here and you can also hear him below:
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about sums up Harry in a single word.
"You never need a firearm,until you need it BADLY!"
he has absofreakinlutely NO business being kept as Majority Leader-the added prestige of that position is way above this belly-crawling, scum-sucking, vote-pandering, bottom-feeding cockroach with the name Osama Bin Harry.
sorry for being vague...again.
Excellent pic!
haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict and ensuing political campaigns).
When we find ourselves in times of trouble
Democrats go on TV
Speaking words of wimpdom
"Let us flee."
haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).
Picture is a "clickable" link to a larger version
"Wubbies World" - MSgt, U.S. Air Force (Retired): "Call to Me and I will answer you, and I will tell you great and mighty things, which you do not know." -Jer 33:3-
We have found "osama bin laden" he just cjanged his name to HARRY -
it is high time that our side make this as personal as the DEMOASS make it - We need to hit them hard on this - even chuckie cheese schumer back off on this fast - we need to get HARRY out of the leadership position
Please watch the profanity.
Develop alternatives to existing policies and keep them alive and available until the politically impossible becomes the politically inevitable. Milton Friedman
If you aspire to be the conservative website of record perhaps you could establish an editorial position with something that rises above the level of a crude and juvenile Photoshop job.
This site would be in a frenzy if Kos put up a mock Hitler/Bush picture on the front page of their site.
Now we're comparing the Senate Majority Leader to the murderer of thousands of Americans. Awesome...
I happen to be a guy who doesn't get up every morning hating my country. Roger Ailes
haystack's 12th:
Conservatives (and Presidential Candidates especially) shall offer no aid and comfort to the opposition in times of legislative conflict (and ensuing political campaigns).
This strikes me as reminiscent of this page's attempt to impute to Jim Webb the actions of his fictional characters. The base eats this stuff up, but in fact it serves as a blow to the GOP electoral chances. At this point, no one except the democrats benefit when GOP partisans compare them to terrorists.
...Democratic partisans comparing Bush to Hitler.
Don't bother answering this comment without either a link to a Lefty site where you criticized the practice or an admission that you've never dared do that, by the way.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
I don't post on any lefty sites; and only visit them very, very, very infrequently. So you're asking for something which is impossible for me to provide.
If you refuse to police your own side don't presume to come here and lecture us.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
I was merely expression an opinion, which I thought was allowed.
I enjoy this site very much, in large part because I think that the level of discourse is much higher than on most of the other political sites especially with respect to civility. Given this, I think that photoshopping the senate majority leader to look like Osama Bin Laden is unfortunate.
Also, on a purely pragmatic level I think that it hurts the GOP. There was a brief window where this sort of thing was effective (2002/2004), but I think that that window has closed. But maybe I'm wrong (it wouldn't be the first time) and this stuff plays great with the general electorate.
for Iraq. Defeat for the coalition forces.
Reid needs our military to fail - and he is trying his best to ensure that outcome occurs. Reid has traded the lives of American soldiers for the chance to improve his political position - his actions are treasonous and he needs to be held accountable.
"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm." -- James Madison
...and until we stop seeing one rule for acceptable discourse from the Left and another for the Right, well, yeah, you're allowed to express your opinion. And then I'll express mine, which is that you should shut up until you guys start cleaning up your own house.
So lose the 'tude.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
you're welcomed to be outraged, though one would think the outrage would be at least partially directed at a senator who is promoting the same strategy as the people killing US soldiers in Iraq. But, of course, that would mean being faking outrage.
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling
You complain to him?
You complain to *him*?
How about *them*?
I can keep this up for hours, Sparky: and I already know the answer. No, you haven't, and won't.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
There's lots of things the Left has done that I wouldn't particularly like to see this site stooping to. Dressing Harry Reid (or any Democrat) up as Osama bin Laden (or Hitler) is among those things where I'd prefer this site keep the moral high ground. I enjoy being able to pile on about that crud whenever I get into a fight with my Lefty friends, and things like this erode my ability to do so (not that many of them read RS). I just don't see what stuff like this really gets us.
Spare me your outrage.
I know they did.
Which is why I'm surprised to see the same rubbish here.
Why are you telling me to go waste my time actually creating an account at every lefty website I find so that I can criticize them when they put a Bush/Hitler poster up. Just because I don't doesn't mean I'm against it.
I've done my part railing against Reid in my own social group. I don't have to prove my conservative credentials.
I happen to be a guy who doesn't get up every morning hating my country. Roger Ailes
...who are infinitely happy to try to insist that this side bears the full burden of civility; you looked like one of them. Sorry I got that wrong.
PS: Ye snickering lurkers, remember: the question still stands. Why are you more prone to not condemn your own side's excesses? Aside from the fact that it's much safer to criticize us, of course.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
I Condemn the use of pictures of any Dems for the purpose of photoshopping to compare them to terrible, evil persons!
I condemn the condemning of Dems!
I condemn the Right dong anything but engaging in group hug therapy with the Left!
I Condemn Moe, and Erick, and Streiff, and every other member of the VRWC!
Meanwhile, at the local VRWC recruiting station: "Yes, I'll take a lifetime, transferable membership, please..."
"It's a book about a man who doesn't know he's about to die, and then dies...
...But if the man does know he's going to die and dies anyway. Dies, dies willing, knowing he can stop it, then...
Well, isn't that the type of man you want to keep alive?
leaders is one of encouragement to the terrorists
killing Americans. We had this same situation in the late 1960s/early 1970s. Here is the Communist who accepted the surrender of the free world in Saigon, telling us who defeated
the freedom
loving South Vietnamese and the free world forces.
"Q: Was the American antiwar movement important to Hanoi's victory?
A: It was essential to our strategy. Support of the war from our rear was completely secure while the American rear was vulnerable. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda, and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and that she would struggle along with us."
Does anyone know how many American soldiers died because of
Jane Fonda's action? Not likely, but one can be sure it was thousands.
Does anyone know how many American soldiers died because of John Kerry's antiwar action? Not likely, but one can be sure it was a good many. Plus the deaths, of Vietnamese and Cambodians who were murdered as a result of our pullout.
Does anyone know how many deaths of Americans, Vietnamese, Cambodian, and many other groups since the United States Congress told the world that they would no longer support our
allies in Vietnam. While the exact numbers are not known, it is known that millions died as a result of their action.
Now we have the Democrat Party leaders, lead by the US Senate
Majority Leader telling the world that
they will not support our Allies, or our own US military.
Reid's comments arguably advance bin Laden's goals. Bin Laden and al Qaeda are our active enemies currently engaged trying to kill Americans on the battlefield and elsewhere, and that includes you and me, friend.
Conflating Bush & Hitler is just a rhetorical device that is a substitute for thinking, in the absence of a credible argument. Best I can tell, Bush has done nothing to aid and abet the causes of National Socialism, Aryan supremacy or mass killing of Jews, gypsies and homosexuals. The Bush/Hitler comparison is comparable to the passing of gas on a crowded elevator: it is done merely to shock and offend.
Is this what their supporters voted for in November? Harry seems to think it is and that defeat, withdrawal and introspective self hatred is part of that mandate.
I am further disappointed in the portion of our populace that does not see this for what it is; shallow political nonsense designed to spread a sense of isolationism regarding our Commander in Chief and in the end produce political victory for Democrat White House aspirations.
In the process that requires we, as a country lose and become less safe in the process. Does Mr. Reid know anything about resolve and the ultimate price of losing, at a minimum, the appearance we posses such a quality? When he talks about a failure of strategy by the White House, does he recall the military, Reid says Democrats support so much, have produced that strategy in tandem with the civilian counterparts and that they both agree with these tactics. Does he furthermore realize how ridiculous he sounds when opining this is the President's and Vice President's isolated response?
What about Arlen Specter's agreement we are "losing";
"Certainly, the war is not being won. But there are still some efforts being made to turn it around. And whether they're successful or not, we won't know. But for the men and women who are over in Iraq, to have somebody of Sen. Reid's stature say that the war is lost, I think is just very, very demoralizing and not necessary,"
Arlen Specter on "FOX News Sunday
It is more than irritating neither appears to have read the strategy, anticipated results on the ground, commander's remarks or any of the CENTCOM evaluation. Who elects these people anyway? They ought to be embarrassed.
If anything, they are growing in isolation, seemingly unable to assemble coherent, factual data and draw conclusions.
"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"
Contributor to The Minority Report
...what Bush was doing gave any of us any reason whatsoever to believe he would succeed. Unlike many on the left, I actually feel we must deliver on what we promised the Iraqis (a stable government and military with as close to safety and equality under the law for all as possible with the cultural context).
But after 4 years, and few experts suggesting the odds of the surge making any significant long-term difference are good, I really have very little faith that Bush is concerned with anything more than punting this problem to the next POTUS.
So given that left to his own devices, there's precious little reason to suspect Bush would rise above the level of competency in waging the war he's demonstrated thus far, why on Earth aren't folks using Reid's rhetoric to put pressure on Iraq's government? Calling him a traitor or calling for his resignation actually plays into the insurgents' plans as well. They can use your rhetoric to drum up resentment against America's "stay the course" occupation. Clearly you'll be seen as advocating more of the same we've had for the past 4 years by blindly supporting Bush. You think they can't see that as easily as you suggest they see Reid handing the keys to Baghdad over to bin Laden?
The smart approach is to take Reid seriously (in public anyway) and use his statements to nudge the Iraqis along toward their benchmarks, no?
Arguments are to be avoided; they are always vulgar and often convincing. ---Oscar Wilde
Mind directing me to your website's posts where you or your cobloggers criticized Democratic partisan sites for their portrayal of George W Bush? Or, alternatively, links to, say, dKos or fdl or Smirking Chimp or Eschaton threads where you tried to convince them of the error of their ways will do.
Just as a baseline, you understand.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
I thought we were discussing how best to prevent the war from claiming more American lives. "Winning" at this point will require serious, competent planning. Bush has lost the faith of his own people in that regard (read his polls on the war).
So Reid is serving his nation, IMO, by offering the President a useful tool in motivating the Iraqi government. I would think other folks serious about that goal would see the opportunity Reid is opening and take it. Not beat him back down.
Arguments are to be avoided; they are always vulgar and often convincing. ---Oscar Wilde
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
Arguments are to be avoided; they are always vulgar and often convincing. ---Oscar Wilde
your quip wasn't a non sequitur or that's not how I saw it? (You might have added mind reading to your considerable skills since we last debated for all I know. ;-P )
At no point did I question your right to mock Reid in the way many on the left (me included) mock (rightly, IMO) Bush. My point was merely that mocking him nullifies the opportunity for the President to play Reid's rhetoric to the US's advantage with Maliki.
Arguments are to be avoided; they are always vulgar and often convincing. ---Oscar Wilde
So our generals are either not serious or incompetent or both? You believe either you or Reid has a "better" understanding of the facts?
What makes Reid more serious or competent then our generals or admirals? The only thing that Reid is serious about is winning political points at the cost of U.S. lives.
Americans supporting the American military, instead of the foreign terrorists. Why is that so hard for the Democrat leaders to understand. The terrorists may not quit completely, but they will fade much farther into the background. The reason they are so bold now is they can see that the Democrat leaders are ready to give them every thing they want.
...how can it be taken seriously?
He says the war is lost, right? Well, then, how seriously can you take his 15-month timeline for withdrawal?
If he believes the war is lost, then that timeline is borderline criminal. To keep our troops fighting in and dying for a lost war for that period of time could well be likened to murder.
If it's lost, then he owes the president, the military, and the American people a bill that begins withdrawal posthaste.
But I do have faith he's not a traitor. Pushing as hard as he is at the President presents an opportunity for Bush to badger the Iraqis into faster action. So he's playing the fool (either intentionally or cluelessly), the opportunity he presents is real. Criticizing him into submission might be good for Bush's ego, but I hardly think it's gonna impress the Iraqi's or get our troops out of there any more quickly. The days of Bush being possibly seen as the effective Commander in Chief are over. If we're gonna salvage a victory out of Iraq it's going to take cunning, not bravado. Bush already tried the "bring 'em on" routine and it failed. Now our best hope is for the Iraqis to get their sh*t together quickly and stand on their own so we can declare victory and scale back. Reid playing the fool here can help in that regard.
Why throw that away? I'm not saying set a deadline, I'm saying use the threat of a deadline to get the Iraqis to get the lead out.
Arguments are to be avoided; they are always vulgar and often convincing. ---Oscar Wilde
First of all, what makes you think that we aren't pressuring the Iraqi government? Do you think that our message to them has been 'however long you need us, Nouri!"?
You can't talk publicly about timelines, ultimatums, etc. like that. That's precisely what's so wrong with Sen. Reid's comments. Imagine, for a second, that you were a leader of our enemy's....how would you react to such comments?
And I'm not calling him a traitor, BTW. I'm saying that to take him seriously -- as you suggest we do -- then we'd have to accept 15 more months fighting of a war we've already declared defeat in. Forget treason, etc....what about some simple common sense?
If Reid wants a 15-month withdrawal timeline (which, militarily, makes no sense at all) then he shouldn't be declaring the war "lost." Or, if he doesn't think it's lost, then he needs to be giving Gen. Petraeus the tools and latitude that he requests to finish the task at hand.
If it's lost, then his bill needs to require immediate withdrawal with near-term funding restrictions.
He can't have it both ways. If it's lost, then a 15-month schedule for withdrawal is murderous. Do you think he could sit in the living room of a serviceman's family, tell them that the war is lost, and then ask for more than another year from them?
Good grief, that makes about as much sense as voting for a law whose court-affirmed constitutionality you later lament.
Do you think that our message to them has been 'however long you need us, Nouri!"?
I think our message to them is we're here until we get the oil contracts we want then you're on your own, to be totally honest. But if we're rightly pressuring them to act, it's clear the guys in there are the wrong team. They've missed how many deadlines now? Panetta counted at least 11 major ones that are seriously impeding our ability to withdraw, including:
The Iraqis promised to achieve, by the end of 2006 or early 2007, the approval of a provincial election law (so far, no progress); approval of a law to regulate the oil industry and share revenues (while the Council of Ministers has approved a draft, it has yet to be approved by the Parliament); approval of the de-Baathification law to reintegrate officials of the former regime and Arab nationalists into public life (no progress); and approval of a law to rein in sectarian militias (no progress).
Or, if he doesn't think it's lost, then he needs to be giving Gen. Petraeus the tools and latitude that he requests to finish the task at hand.
An angry opposition part is a tool the President can use with the Iraqi government. Again, Gen. Petraeus' job is to get us to a state of calm. I hope he does. But then what? What is Bush doing to get Maliki to move his butt? You have faith he's doing something. I see no reason at all to believe he's suddenly figured it all out, and with no indications of diplomacy in action, I see no reason to believe he's not simply stalling until 2009.
As for why Reid doesn't call for an immediate withdrawal, I don't know. I've never withdrawn 130,000 troops from a war zone, but I imagine it takes time and careful planning to do it right, no?
Arguments are to be avoided; they are always vulgar and often convincing. ---Oscar Wilde
I think our message to them is we're here until we get the oil contracts we want then you're on your own, to be totally honest.
Why not just negotiate with Saddam then? He would have sold us all the oil we wanted and cheap too, if we would've just let him have Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Israel. If it was all just about oil we could've had that long ago. Yet, we are still there, now why do you think that is?
Develop alternatives to existing policies and keep them alive and available until the politically impossible becomes the politically inevitable. Milton Friedman
I think our message to them is we're here until we get the oil contracts we want then you're on your own, to be totally honest.
Well, we've been missing out on them. China seems to be doing better than we are. That's such a silly POV on all this, IMO. We're not holding out for oil contracts.
An angry opposition part is a tool the President can use with the Iraqi government.
And the enemy? What's he to do with it?
I think Sen. Pryor was a little closer to sanity when he suggested that any timelines be kept secret. It's still bone-headed, but at least he operates under the realization that the enemy has just as much access to the media as anybody else does.
What is Bush doing to get Maliki to move his butt? You have faith he's doing something.
Well, I don't know -- because, whatever he's doing, he's not doing it in public.
But I think stories like this one out today, showing Maliki pressuring his neighbors to help quell the violence demonstrates:
A) That they can if they wanted to (ie, they've put conditions on their involvement)
B) That he realizes full well that the MNF isn't there forever
As for why Reid doesn't call for an immediate withdrawal, I don't know. I've never withdrawn 130,000 troops from a war zone, but I imagine it takes time and careful planning to do it right, no?
I'm sure it would. But that's no reason that it couldn't start tomorrow, as far as Congress is concerned, right?
But, anyway, you're the one saying we should be taking him seriously -- or at least feigning to take him seriously. And now you're telling us you don't know why there's such a dichotomy between his rhetoric ("we've lost") and his stated position ("we'll start pulling troops out at the end of this year and be completely gone within one year.")
I have my own idea as to why...why he's said what he's said, and why he's going along with the pretense that Congress would, if it could, pull troops out starting this fall.
I can read Harry's mind and I assure you he is not clueless. He is intentionally trying to bring about America's defeat in Iraq, by giving the forces fighting America what they want, a precipitous American withdrawal. He is doing so in order to attempt to secure more power here at home for himself and his political party. His goals are not in line with the best interests of the nation, and that my friend makes his actions traitorous.
The problem with your too generous analysis of Reid's intentions is this: his prescription, American withdrawal or the threat of it, makes it harder for the Iraqis to "get their sh*t together quickly...," because it encourges the enemies of Iraq "getting their sh*t together," to fight harder against that end. His statement gives Iraq's, and by extension America's enemies hope that Reid and his Democratic buddies and presidential candidates can engineer a removal of the American leg of the three legged stool upon which Iraq sits.
Harry is a fool, no doubt, but not clueless. He knows exactly what he is doing. And it ain't trying to help.
Develop alternatives to existing policies and keep them alive and available until the politically impossible becomes the politically inevitable. Milton Friedman
...you said:
But after 4 years, and few experts suggesting the odds of the surge making any significant long-term difference are good
Forgetting the long-term military significance of the Petraeus Offensive for a second, you do understand that it probably isn't going to matter politically, right?
It seems to me that the tactics he's beginning to employ will bring extra security so long as the additional manpower is there. Assuming for a second that the IA and IP aren't able to deliver as much security as MNF forces (which doesn't seem a stretch), then I suppose we can safely predict that security will retreat as soon as the MNF forces do.
Where does that leave Reid and the Democrats politically, though? It leaves them to argue that, although things have improved markedly in Iraq because of the policy they tried to stop, they'll return to chaos as soon as the policy is rescinded.
That's not a very good place to be. In fact, it's an awful place to be.
You should go read that Doug Schoen piece I linked below. Whatever all this means in terms of things on the ground in Iraq, it's almost certain to turn out to be politically bone-headed. The only chance he has is that the surge fails in the short-term and is perceived as such come next November.
If that's the case, then he's just hit it out of the park. If it doesn't, then he's just boxed himself and his entire party in.
But I'm not sure Reid is being as politically opportunistic here as you seem to be implying. He may seriously believe that victory (at least as it was initially defined) is no longer possible, AND believe Bush knows that. In that instance, what's he's really done is begun the debate on who should be the last American soldier to die for a "victory" that's not even defined.
I personally would like nothing more than to actually give the Iraqis what Bush and Blair promised them after Baghdad fell (actually, I lie, I'd like to take them back in time and give it to them before so many were killed): a better life, a say in their government, and equal protection under the law (i.e., not leave them to an angry Shiite majority that Iran can whip into a genocidal fury).
Whatever Petraeus can do that calms things down is great then, obviously, but where are the dipomatic plans that need to be rushed in at that point? Calm followed by a twiddling of thumbs will guarantee what I fear will follow the calm either way (a return of the militias into the neighborhoods they were cleared out of and a return of the violence).
Still no matter how successful Patreus is militarily, what does it matter if we're not ready to coerce the regional players into normalizing things and fast? Where is that effort?
Some of your questions are important (and there are answers to them). I want a national debate and answers to all the important questions before we set a deadline to withdraw from Iraq.
Reid and Pelosi are trying to do the opposite, without any debate use a straight party line vote to force the President into secret backroom negotations in which (Reid hopes) the war will be surrendered.
I especially want a straight answer to the double talk from the Democratic leaders that they support withdrawing "all" troops from Iraq, but they will leave enough troops there to fight Al Qaeda. That begs the question: what if stabilizing the Iraqi government is necessary to prevent Al Qaeda from establishing bases and attacking the US? If the Democrats were serious about winning the war against AQ, they wouldn't be so confident in withdrawing troops.
> but where are the dipomatic plans that need to be rushed in at that point?
As an example answer to one question, there has been absolutely massive diplomatic progress in Iraq over the past two months. Searching my messages would show links. As even the Washington Post has admitted, Sunni Iraqis are now fighting Al Qaeda and throwing them out of the country. That would remove two obstacles to peace, the ones who have been the problem since the beginning. Various Sunni, Shiite, and Kurd insurgent / militia groups announced they signed a cease fire with each other. Iraqi Sunnis said they will issue Fatwahs forbidding the killing of any Iraqis, including Shiites and Kurds.
Your last few lines are spot on and the entire reason I think the Dems are making a huge blunder here.
Let's say that the insurgency coalition falls apart -- and I think that's a very real possibility. The "foreign fighters" (ie, Sunni al-Qaida affiliates, Iranian charges) break wholly and completely from domestic sects who are more interested in their relative power in the new government than in simply seeing that the new government doesn't hold.
Well, that probably translates into them casting their lot with the government -- because, otherwise, they're not only politically isolated, but being fought from two directions....one of which is presumably intimate with their logistics, military capabilities, tactics, leadership, etc.
The political battle lines could change, literally, in an instant. And doesn't it make sense that the likelihood something like this might happen under the pressure of a full-strength counter-insurgency would be higher than they would using the scaled-down, ineffective strategy status quo?
I think it's worth remembering that the past doesn't always equal the future -- that war usually isn't a linear thing and true stalemates in the history of war are rare. Tipping points happen and they're not always anticipated or expected.
We don't hear a whole lot reported from the side of the enemy. They don't exactly operate transparently. But, sometimes you have to read between the lines to get a full accounting of the condition they're in before you assess your own way forward.
In the case of Reid, Pelosi, & Co....I think it's simpler than you've put it here. I honestly think they've gotten themselves into a situation where our success would be utterly devastating to them politically.
And, as such, it's not merely that they've lost hope -- but that they have to quash it.
And as a consequence of what we have written about, the "Civil War" argument is dead, even though most people don't realize it yet. There never was a civil war in Iraq, just skirmishes over a few hot spots, the contested turf. But once word of the cease fire between Iraqis gets out, and it holds, then the Democrats have lost their little sound bite argument that we are fighting a civil war.
AQ is clearly panicking and trying anything and everything, because they know the end is near. Attacking their Sunni hosts with chlorine bombs is pure desperation. It is desperate race against time, whether AQ and the Democrats can force surrender before we can clench the peace which is in our hands.
It seems to me that victory is very easily defined -- given the benefit of time. If a decent Iraqi government emerges when the dust is settled, we'll have accomplished our goals. If it doesn't, we'll have failed. That doesn't seem all that complicated to me -- and I've never figured out why so many people think the mission is so muddled.
Granted, it may be difficult to tell just how "decent" the government truly is. And I imagine that, once the foreign military phase here is basically complete, that debate will shift to just how desirable the standing government in Iraq is.
As for Reid, if he thinks that this is no longer possible, then why in the world is he pushing for such a drawn-out timetable? Let's say you're right and take Reid's comments at face value. Don't you find it even the least bit offensive that he's -- at the same time, mind you -- saying that "we've lost" and "the funding bill will provide a presence for 15 more months"?
I think the answer to that is that, really, Reid's making an entirely political calculation here. It's not that he thinks a stable, decent, lasting Iraqi government is no longer possible...it's that he can't abide the possibility. He can't afford to be seen capitulating to Bush the Failure-We've-Been-Elected-to-Undermine -- and he sure as hell can't risk the possibility that the surge may end up being seen as a success. Because they're already on record as having tried to stop it from happening!
And, FWIW, I'm not even so sure he'll be able to get his own party to go along with it. But, either way, it's not going to become law.
So, in the end, we're left with what I said earlier. Politically (here), what matters is how successful the surge is viewed as having been. Strategically, it seems to me that all the surge needs to do is get us to a point where a palatable political solution can be hatched.
It would help to read more and write less if you expect anyone to take you seriously. Here is the policy: http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/iraq_strategy_nov2005.ht
While you may have been able to elicit some comments, most of what is written here is unsupported by facts and clearly unpersuasive parochial opinion.
"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"
Contributor to The Minority Report
compare Reid to UBL.
Turnabout is fair play my ill-informed friend.
"Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15."
-Ronald Reagan
Now care to provide some substance?
Show me all the credible experts suggesting the "surge will not make any significant long-term difference". You might also want to actually read the policy and determine what the surge objectives are as part of any overall plan. Oh, then there is the pesky little fact that most in the military running this war (and therefore the most prolific experts), had a part in crafting this strategy.
Reid's comments are best exposed for what they are, treason representing a historical breach of trust with the American people. Your non sequitur regarding using Reid's comments is absent any intellectual moderation.
Reid is best exposed to Iraqi's for what he is; an aberration. I can find very few American's agreeing with his statements. Since this is still a democratic republic, that makes Reid isolated and the author of probably one of the most damaging speeches in this countries history. Never in our history has a Senate leader provided a what amounts to a edico traditum.
"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"
Contributor to The Minority Report
...I agree with the poster above who said that this is over the top. The answer to BDS is not RDS.
That being said, I think Reid's making two huge mistakes here -- one which is awful for Americans and American interests and one which is awful for Democratic Party interests.
I'm not sure he cares about the former, which is just gut-wrenchingly appalling. Rather, I think it's all about the latter.
I think this is all about a big roll of the political dice. In the parlance of high stakes poker, he's gone "all in." He's now officially bet every single chip they have on the *perceived* failure of the surge. If he's right, the payoff may well be huge -- as in gains in both houses of Congress next election to go along with a Democrat president. If he's wrong, he's snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
I'm not as sure as Democratic strategist Doug Schoen that the '08 election is the Democrats' to lose. I think their candidate slate is (fatally?) weak. Be that as it may, he still makes a salient point in his Globe piece this morning that Harry Reid is on the verge of a miscalculation that could have devastating impacts for his party.
Schoen counseled Bill Clinton in the aftermath of the '94 election debacle on how to deal with the Republican budget proposals. Clinton apparently wanted to capitulate, Schoen advised him that they were overreaching and would be blamed by voters for having done so. Schoen was right and Clinton was reelected by a comfortable margin in the next election.
The surge is going to happen and the funds will eventually be there, with the Democrats' blessing or without it. Reid is saying that it will have to be without it.
If the conventional wisdom come next fall is that the surge will have helped matters in Iraq along, his roll of the dice will have come up craps.
While I sympathize with the general feeling here that his comments and upcoming actions are harmful to the country and to our interests in the Middle East.....politically, we ought to be giddy about this.
He just fell into the tarpit, folks.
I think this was the single most important, and most destructive, policy speech in decades. America asks its men and women to fight and die for a cause that the majority party concedes is lost, the funds for which said majority party intends to hold hostage to baldly political ploys such as the minimum wage increase. No man or woman facing deployment has any reasonable assurance about what he or she will face, whether he or she is fighting for a cause that will shortly be abandoned, or even whether his or her commander and quartermaster will have the necessary funds to stay battle-ready. There is nothing positive about this.
And I don't necessarily disagree. I think it's a shame beyond belief that our politicians have decided to play this kind of politics with war while our men are there dodging very real bullets and bombs on a daily basis.
This ain't 1942 anymore, that's for certain.
Reid's comments and, now, actions are deplorable for any elected official. They will embolden the enemy, they will make it even that much harder to bring about a stable, lasting coalition Iraqi government.
But, from his perspective, I imagine he's thinking:
1) Democrats were sent there to end the war and, if they don't (or aren't seen as genuinely trying) that they'll be voted out by the defection and disgust of their base.
2) The war belongs entirely to Bush and the Republicans and, as such, any perception that we've lost it is a long-term boon to Democrats.
3) The surge won't work and won't ever be seen as having worked. Rather it will be "too little, too late", etc etc.
I think Reid's going to figure out eventually that he miscalculated here and that, in fact, he had a lot to lose by doing so.
Read former CIA analyst (and sharp Middle Eastern scholar) Reuel Marc Gerecht's recent piece on the status of things in Iraq to understand what I mean.
is not the same as being the enemy, no matter how tempting the comparison may be. (And believe me, I'm no fan of Harry Reid. His latest statements reduce the security of our nation.)
But dressing up Reid as a mullah is unjustified.
I expect this sort of thing from Kos, not from RS...
"During my lifetime, all our problems have come from mainland Europe, and all the solutions from the English-speaking nations across the world." - Thatcher
Whether one thinks this picture is over the top or not, it is clearly political (not personal). And it is making what some think to be the very, very important point that the Democrats are doing the bidding of Al Qaeda by trying to force us to surrender in Iraq, and by constantly trash talking our war efforts.
That's unlike making fun of Bush's appearance by calling him "Chimp". It is not name-calling by showing Bush as Hitler. I doubt if any Democrat would dare tell Holocaust survivors that President Bush is really, really like Hitler, so "BusHitler" is just name calling.
The ultimate purpose of a political cartoon is to instantly tell the viewer a message, and this does that. The message is deep and has rich political content. That's unlike showing a president of the opposite party as Hitler, which is really just saying "I don't like him".
Speaking of insults, it is an insult for Reid to say today that President Bush is "in denial". It gets back to the old rule "Discuss arguments, not the speaker who said them". A loyal opposition can tear into a president's arguments as much as necessary, without talking about their psychology.
Polls show that 60% of Americans want us out Iraq? Just like Senator Reid, these 60% of Americans are cowardly traitors. I would advise these "Americans" and Senator Reid....whether he is a duly elected official of the United States or not....to remember what we do to people we choose to portray as traitors. I agree that Senator Reid and 60% of Americans are traitors. How should we punish them? Remember the Rosenbergs???
"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."
--Jerry Falwell
...show up in a Google search as being part of your dKos diary.
Jeez, that's like, Moby 101. Actually, that's Moby 050.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
You're not giving me time to enjoy the thrill of the sport! Please play the next one a little bit longer--let him run out the line once or twice at least.
soli Deo gloria
I would send this in an email, instead of as a comment, but Moe doesn't have his email address accessible (or I'm too ignorant to find it, if so, my apologies).
I made a comment along a similar line (minus all the over the top Rosenberg nonesense) the other day, and I got blammed for it, too. I asked streiff (who I had previously talked via email regarding a different topic) what got me banned, and he told me (it had to do with reregistering, which I didn't know was against policy), and gave me a second chance. At any rate, here's my question.
Does asking questions like "are 60% of Americans traitors" necessarily lead to being banned? If not, what is the proper way to ask something like this? I am honestly curious about the answer, but if this is not the proper venue to do so, that's cool, too. I realize that, as a (moderate) liberal, I'm a guest here, and I have to play by the rules of the site.
If so, what is it about the question that is unacceptable? I realize that I'm not owed an explanation, but I would like to avoid making other comments/asking other questions that lead to being banned (again) for the same reason that this fellow is no longer with us.
Once again, sorry to ask in a comment thread, but I'm not sure where else to go to ask.
Trying to play by the rules,
...is that the author was pretending to be an over-the-top conservative. The term of art is 'moby', after the singer (who actually was so unwise as to suggest the practice in an online public forum). Most mobys usually easy to spot: in this particular case, the fool used the same email address that he uses for his dKos account. I didn't particularly feel like waiting for him to start spouting off on depleted uranium, oiiillll and/or the Jews; so I gacked him.
So now you know not to do that.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
He did such a bad job pretending to be a conservative that I completely missed that he was trying to do so; I thought he was just being sarcastic (which would also be an awfully rude way to spend one's time in his host's house). Sorry to waste your time on something that should have been so obvious.
didn't point to who was right in the long run.
I would really like to know what source of mid-east money is going to Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and all these other mouth pieces who work so hard to destroy our country, our culture and our military. What kind of a deal have the left of this country made with radical Islam? I would really like to know.
Even though the President will veto this, it will be a sad, sad day for America when both Houses of Congress pass this.
The President has once again lost ground politically. Now both Houses of Congress are going to vote for mandatory withdrawals, not the optional deadline which the Senate had.
I hope the White House sees this as an absolute red alert. We will not in the long term be able to sustain a war which Congress votes against.
Reid: Congress will endorse pullout
Defying a fresh veto threat, the Democratic-controlled Congress will pass legislation within days requiring the withdrawal of U.S. combat troops from Iraq beginning Oct. 1, with a goal of completing the pullout six months later, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Monday.
Reid said the legislation "immediately transitions the U.S. military away from policing a civil war." He said that troops that remain in Iraq after next April 1 could only train Iraqi security units, protect U.S forces and conduct "targeted counter-terror operations."
Reid's face is way too small for that Bin Laden turban and beard. I'm going to have nightmares tonight, and they aren't the ones intended.


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A climbing harness is a key piece of your personal climbing equipment. Your climbing harness, with a waist belt and leg loops constructed of sturdy nylon webbing, is what you connect yourself to your climbing rope by tying the rope into the harness with a figure-8 follow-through knot. The waist belt of your harness sits on your hips and, when combined with snug leg loops, transfers the energy and force of a fall onto your pelvis. The climbing harness also forms a comfortable seat for lowering and rappelling off a cliff.
Evolution of the Harness
Harnesses evolved for durability, safety, and comfort for climbing. Prior to the invention of harnesses, climbers tied the rope directly around their waist, using a bowline-on-a-coil, which created a lot of discomfort if the climber fell or hung from the rope. This sometimes caused broken ribs, or, in some cases, a tight rope around a climber's waist which led to suffocation when the rope tightened around the diaphragm and the climber was unable to breathe.
The First Harnesses
Climbers then began making "Swiss seats" by taking long lengths of tubular webbing, tying leg loops in them, and wrapping the remainder of the webbing around their waist and then tying the rope into it. This basic harness is what I first used as a beginning climber in the 1960s and is still used by outdoor programs like Outward Bound. By 1970, the Swiss seat evolved into the precursor of today's modern harness.
The Modern Climbing Harness
One of the first commercial rock climbing harnesses made, and the first one I owned, was designed and sold by Colorado climber and gear innovator Bill Forrest. It featured a three-inch-wide waist belt, what climbers call "swami belts," that could be used alone on a climber's waist or with leg loops, which made it into a sit harness similar to today's models. Another landmark climbing harness was the famous Whillans Harness from Troll in England, which was designed by the famed British climber Don Whillans.
What is the Best Climbing Harness for You?
There are lots of climbing harnesses available. As of 2013, over 150 climbing harnesses are available from over 25 equipment manufacturers. If you plan on doing much climbing, then you would be wise to purchase your own harness rather than rent or borrow one. A harness can be purchased as part of a beginner climbing package, along with rock shoes and a chalk bag.
Buy a Harness that Fits Well
The best climbing harness is the one that fits you comfortably, is easy to take on and off, and fits the type of climbing you're doing—indoor gym climbing, sport climbing, big wall adventures, or mountaineering and alpine climbing in the big ranges.
Harness is Essential Climbing Gear
Your harness is the key piece of climbing equipment that links you to your climbing rope, which you tie into the harness. A good harness keeps you safe all of the time that you're on the rock and allows you to climb in relative comfort. The old-style alternative to the modern climbing harness is the rope tied directly around your waist, which is definitely not comfortable. Buy a comfy harness and you will be lots happier when you fall, hang, and climb. For more information about buying a new climbing harness read the article Seven Tips to Help Buy the Right Harness.


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Together at the June 21, 2004 World Premiere of "The Notebook," Ryan Gosling and James Garner and the other "The Notebook" cast members were greeted by screams from very enthusiastic female fans. Here's what the two versions of the character Noah Calhoun have to say about making this romantic movie:
Are you a romantic?
If I eat a huge meal and I can get the girl to rub my belly, I think thats about as romantic as I can think of.
That sounds like something romantic on the girl's part. You seem to have quite a fan club. Whats it like to be lusted after?
My mother has hired all those people. She pays them.
Your following should get even bigger after they see you as the romantic lead in The Notebook.
(Laughing) I dont think that is true.
Whats it like working with Rachel McAdams?
Lovely, and the truth is I probably wouldnt have done the film if she wouldnt have done it.
Was there immediate chemistry between the two of you?
I think we just knew that we had a movie when Rachel walked in the room.
This is a real romantic tale and its coming out against action/special effects films. Is it nice to see a story like this get made?
Yeah, I think its nice too, to see it come to fruition as well, see it come to an end. A lot of love stories when they come to the end, they end. We kind of pick up the storyline and I figure thats what makes it interesting.
Could you ever imagine yourself doing what your character does?
When I read the script, I thought about that. Would I behave the same way in my real life? I try to play characters who are different from myself, so I feel like this character is someone who is really different. I actually think that if I did what he did in this movie, I would get a restraining order put against me. The fact that you think its romantic is great and why I liked it.
Is this movie a natural progression from the indie movies you normally do?
I dont think you can discriminate against budgets, you know? Im an actor, I guess, so Im just trying to play as many characters as I can. If theres a character I think I can play, and theyre going to let me do it, Ill do it whether its $10 or $1 million or more.
What was it like filming "The Notebook?"
To make it was just like any other picture. You go to work and you go home.
No more love on this set than normal?
Not that I know of. Not on the set (laughing). Being married for 48 years, I wasnt looking for that.
48 years, and you met your wife and married her extremely quickly.
I met my wife and married her 14 days later. Its a lot like this movie in the sense that Ryan [Goslings] character, who plays me when Im young, sees her at the carnival and falls absolutely madly in love. And thats pretty much what I did. I saw my wife at a pool, flipped over her, and 14 days later we were married.
Whats nice about this movie is it isnt a cheesy love story, it didnt need to end on the happiest note yet its a very touching ending.
There was a wonderful ending to it. I felt it was kind of uplifting in a way, but we wont talk about the ending itself. Youre right, its not a cheesy love story. Its sincere and when those kids are young, they have a great time.
Why dont we see many love stories on the screen anymore?
Because theyre not a 'blockbuster.' You dont blow up a world in the first five minutes. Everybody wants blockbusters. I like to see a few pictures now and then that have to do with people and have relationships, and thats what I want to do films about. I dont want to see these sci-fi movies, and I dont want to do one of those. I dont understand it.
And finally getting the chance to work with Gena Rowlands
Shes a sweetheart. What a princess.
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So I know this borders on taboo around here, but what do you guys think of a three-way trade that has Moose going to SA, Josh Smith to Minnesota, and Kawhi Leonard and Kevin Love coming to Detroit?
I consider Moose and Leonard kinda equal, with Moose getting an edge, because he's a big and has shown a little more so far. So maybe Detroit gets Leonard plus a sweetener. Love, if he's healthy (a negative evaluation of his health would be a deal breaker), is better than Smith, but is a poor defender and there have been rumors that Minny's not big on him. So maybe SA's sweetener goes to Minnesota and makes this work.
I'm not sure if this would work from Minny's and SA's point of view, but I'm pretty sure it's a good deal for Detroit - defensively, we lose a little but still have a good defensive team with Dre in the middle and Leonard and KCP on the perimeter. Rebounding wise,they're already good but this makes them the league's best. And offensively, we make a huge, huge leap ahead - four shooters (most of whom can slash, rebound and defend) around a great center, maybe even the league's best as soon as this year. It would be like Dwight's Orlando team that got to the finals except with better offense (adding the slashing element), more rebounders and more guys who can defend (Orlando was great with basically only Howard doing it).
What do you think? Would it work? Would you do it?
Also, let me say, I love Moose and I loved the big frontcourt idea (before the Smith signing). But if this move is possible (and again, assuming Kevin Love is healthy), I think it could make the Pistons a top 3 team in the East and a contender for many years to come.


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2.42/5 rDev -23.2%
Enjoyed (?) on-tap @ the Minneapolis Town Hall Brewery in Minneapolis, MN in a $9 Flight tasting. Tapped from the Clock Tower tap handle but not sure of the logo or tap handle style (moved into pool room) into a 10oz Short Stange Glass.
Aroma- Strong chilis from the beginning. Overpowers everything and leaves nothing left to hint at... Not even a smoky aroma!
Appearance- Received with no head at all but I'm not worried about it. Has lemon color body and very clear. No lacing left afterwards.
Flavor- Strongest spice and chili taste. Can't handle this as a Hefe! Wheres the lemon twist, the grains, the malt, the sweetness, the dry finish, the... Weak..
Mouthfeel- Light-Medium Bodied, Carbonation tough to determine, and has tons of spice and chili afterwards.
Overall Impression- Very tough to drink but GLAD it was my last of the night... Killed my palate.. Tt would have been a greeat chili beer I think but not a Hefe. Can't recommend this but if you are to sample, have this as your last brew of the night!
12-01-2011 03:31:28 | More by DCon
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3.6/5 rDev +14.3%
This beer is the Chili infused version of the Smoked hefe. This is not to be confused for the Chili-hefe which is the chili infused version of the hefe.
Pours a light white head. Color is a hazed dark golden orange.
Aroma: Massive amount of chilis. Huge spices. A bit of smokey malts. No hefe flavors here at all. Very unique. Smells like bazooka joe bubblegum.
Taste: Some spices mixed with the chile pepper spiciness. Bananas and cloves with a little malt showing. Very hot. Very spiced. The smokey flavors blend in with the chilies.
Mouthfeel: Dry and spiced. Medium bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Ends hot.
Overall, a very unique beer. I couldn't drink much of this. However, it did have some awesome flavors. Worth a try if you get a chance.
12-01-2011 01:02:36 | More by mothman
1.88/5 rDev -40.3%
A: cloudy amber/golden color with nearly no head.
S: chile, maybe some smoke.
T: chile, that's it.
M: a little lacking in carbonation, but that might make this even worse, so the smoothness may balance it.
O: gross. Never again. Why would they do this?
12-01-2011 01:38:12 | More by Holland
4.33/5 rDev +37.5%
Served in a goblet, a hazy straw yellow color with a moderate head of light colored foam.
Smells of grilled pepper. Quite smokey with a touch of wheat and spice.
The taste is phenomenal. They used Poblanos in this which are probably my favorite pepper. So much flavor. This tastes just like a grilled green poblano. Very smokey, green and delivers some moderate pepper heat in the back of the throat. A nice smoke flavor in the finish.
Very smooth, but dry. Nice carbonation feel. A light body.
It's not very often that you run across a beer that stands out from the crowd in a huge way. This one does that. This probably is not a beer for everyone as indicated in previous reviews, but it really worked for me. I could drink a couple of these with ease. Wish it were in growlers, because it would be amazing with some mexican food.
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Just Venting
I never realized how central a laptop is to my writing life. I'm not very good at using them to actually make poems (or even blog posts), since the screen is too damned small on any laptop I care to carry. At a minimum, I need to be able to see several versions of the poem I'm working on, my ancillary notes, a rhyming dictionary, a dictionary, a thesaurus, and a search window — fortunately Apple's Dictionary.app, which references wikipedia, combines the last 3. I also like quick, searchable access to my commonplace book and to all my previous poems, drafts, and manuscripts-in-progress, which right now means MacJournal, NoteTaker, DevonThink Pro, and Pages running in another Space. (One day I'll consolidate all that. One day.)
But I don't get to sit down to that labor till late in the day. I work at work, but all day long little things happen which give me ideas, and since I can't read my handwriting, my laptop is where I'd make a quick note. I don't eat lunch most days, and I used that time to organize what I'd entered and to drop in on poetry boards and science blogs, which are always great sources of material for me. I can still do the latter at lunch, but without my personal laptop and its 3G connection, there's no good way to save the things I want. I thought email would serve, but another thing I'd do at lunch was to check my personal email, which is blocked (for good reasons) on work machines. Now I have 600 unread messages and I can't seem to catch up.
I'm going crazy. And it's going to be like this for nearly a month longer.
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(smug) the touch is even tinier, so it wouldn't do you any good. (/smug)
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