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· Exposure Latitude Inconsistency - Why?
Hey, Folks!
My name is Christopher J. Boghosian - this is my first post. I'm looking forward to being a part of this vibrant community.
I'm an experienced photographer, though a novice with digital. So when I recently got my 60D, I tested exposures off a gray card and am confused:
After importing my images to Lightroom, the Lightroom histogram showed that my exposures were okay 5 stops below normal exposure, BUT ONLY 2 STOPS OVER. In other words, the highlights went off the histogram only 3 stops over normal exposure of the gray card whereas the underexposure shots were still on the histogram up to 5 stops under.
I was assuming a regular range of latitude up and down the range of exposure. Why such big jumps up the histogram when over exposing?
Also, can someone please explain this statement from Lowrie's "Canon EOS 60D Digital Field Guide" (2011): "The general guideline when shooting RAW capture is to expose with a bias to the right so that the highlight pixels just touch the right side of the histogram. Thus, when tonal mapping is applied during conversion, the file has significantly more bits that can be redistributed to the midtones and darker tones, where the human eye is most sensitive to changes."
I'm thinking Lowrie's statement might be connected to my initial question regarding the inconsistency in exposure latitude?
Thank you in advance for your consideration!
- Christopher
Jul 09, 2013 at 10:53 PM
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Hi Christopher,
Welcome to FM.
It sounds like you're concerned about a bias in exposure latitude, not consistency. There's a whole lot of learning to be done when going from film to digital. I'm still working on it.
With respect to your results with LR, are you looking at RAW files or jpeg files?
Cheers, Jim
Jul 09, 2013 at 11:25 PM
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Hi Chris, nice to meet you..
You should have a mindset when exposing digital files as if you were shooting E-6, not C41.
You have to protect that the highlights don't white out during exposure, while letting the shadows fall where they will. Then, with lightroom, you have to develop the shadows, bringing them back to light (or alternatively, darkening) via your sliders.
Once you loose a highlight, there's little headroom for recovery. Fr this reason, it is good practice to enable the "blinkies" in your image preview as you will have a good idea if you need to backoff the exposure a notch.
All of this assumes that you are shooting RAW files and not jpg's.
The reason why latitude is not symmetrical (as in the zone system) has to do with the fact that digital sensors gather light in discreet " tonal steps" that are controlled by the "bit depth" of your file. RAW files have more steps, but you have to develop the files in lightroom in order to make good use of all that "latent info", which lives in the shadows. Expose as if they were high latitude diapos, protectong the highlights from blowing.
If this sounds too complex, it's no worries. Shoot raw, develop in lightroom (or even photoshop) and be happy..
Hope that helps
Jul 09, 2013 at 11:51 PM
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I have no idea what anyone is talking about here
Jul 10, 2013 at 12:28 AM
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Thank you for the kind welcome! And very useful information - thank you...
I am referring to RAW files - I understand that JPEG is a whole other issue due to in-camera processing...
In response to your insight:
- I have enabled the "blinkies" in my camera preview; however, even when shooting RAW, am I not ultimately previewing an in-camera JPEG? I guess I'm ultimately questioning the validity of an in-camera JPEG preview when shooting RAW.
- When shooting a high contrast scene (without fill-flash; no gray card), how do digital photographers GENERALLY determine exposure? Based on your comments, it sounds like the highlight is of utmost concern, thus the beginning point. If so, does one measure the highlight and give it a couple extra stops of light, allowing the shadows to fall where they may?
Jul 10, 2013 at 12:33 AM
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Camera meters are designed meter middle gray around 2 1/2 stops below highlight clipping. It does this by assuming the content in the scene has average reflectivity; if the content is more reflective than normal (like snow) then the camera may underexpose; if the content is less reflective than normal (like black) then the camera may overexpose. Evaluative/matrix metering also applies scene recognition to help predict what reflectivity the scene has and also what aspects of the scene contains content important to meter from. It also can average meter regions across the frame.
Even when the camera meters correctly the in-camera histogram/blinky display is based on a raw-converted (post-gamma) conversion applied to the raw using the user-selected JPEG scene settings (contrast, saturation, white balance, etc..), even when shooting raw. This may lead to an indication of highlight clipping where there is none or more rarely, vice versa...such that when you load the raw into your PP app like Lightroom there will be no clipping of raw data for an image the camera indicated there was clipping. Do a google search for "UniWB" for more information.
Jul 10, 2013 at 01:01 AM
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Hi Christopher and welcome to FM!
Here is a good article discussing the ETTR 'Expose to the Right' technique.
Maximizing S/N Ratio in Digital Photography
There is a ton of information on the web, just put the above 'text' into Google search and you will get quite a few hits. Luminous Landscape is another wonderful website and if you want to fully understand 'RAW' data I can highly recommend the folllowing book that details RAW files.
The Digital Negative: Raw Image Processing in Lightroom, Camera Raw, and Photoshop
By Jeff Schewe
Here's a link to the book, it's on Amazon...in paperback or eBook formats.
Hope this helps, good luck!
Jul 10, 2013 at 01:18 AM
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Thank you all again! "Exposing to the right" is exactly what I'm talking, so now I know what to search for.
I quickly glances at the luminous landscape link (will read tomorrow) and it said that a digital sensor has about 5-6 stops latitude. That's exactly what I discovered with my gray card test!
This thread has really helped me put terms to what I was dealing with, so now I'm able to do my own research. Thanks again..
Jul 10, 2013 at 01:25 AM
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WHOA!!!! I absolutely cannot believe how TRUE ETTR is and it's a bit unnerving.... Coming from a film background, I'm shocked at how "abnormal" the analog sensor metering method is.
I did a quick test of a dark scene:
1) Exposed it using a gray card.
2) Exposed it +5 stops (to the extreme right of the histogram).
Opened both in Lightroom. I didn't touch the first exposure (normally exposed). I brought down the exposure of the second.
Alas, the first, "normally exposed" was incredibly more noisy! The second, "overexposed" by 5 stops looked fantastic.
****Note: I cannot post photos
Thank you so much for all the help. I'm both elated to have learned so much, but really annoyed that I need to overexpose (not underexpose) dark scenes.
Jul 10, 2013 at 02:53 AM
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CJBoghosian wrote
...I recently got my 60D, I tested exposures off a gray card and am confused:
After importing my images to Lightroom, the Lightroom histogram showed that my exposures were okay 5 stops below normal exposure, BUT ONLY 2 STOPS OVER. In other words, the highlights went off the histogram only 3 stops over normal exposure of the gray card whereas the underexposure shots were still on the histogram up to 5 stops under.
I was assuming a regular range of latitude up and down the range of exposure. Why such big jumps up the histogram when over exposing?
- Christopher
Hi Christopher, and welcome,
I am curious...in your grey card experiment, how did you meter your exposures for those shots with your camera? What I'm not understanding is the meaning behind your usage of "normal exposure" and "underexposure" here. And, what do you mean, or how would you define (describe) "regular range of latitude" here? I'm just trying to establish a common reference point from where we can explore what it is you're encountering.
The transition from film to digital for me came with some frustrations and confusions...as an example: I did not (and still do not) like the unforgiveness of digital when it came to highlight retention. Once one reaches the full-well capacity of their sensor information gathering gets abruptly cut-off and all of one's highlights beyond that point are gone...film emulsions work on a much smoother exposure latitude curve with no abrupt (I prefer: rude) cutoffs.
And I bring that particular example up as it may have some bearing on what you are experiencing. Learning the exposure behaviorsits benefits and idiosyncrasiesof the sensor in your 60D will be akin to learning how a new emulsion behaves for you. But digital is not film, it is merely an electronic simulation (recreation), thereof. A lot of minds and effort went into the sensors, electronics and software allowing you to take that 50mm f/1.4 lens off of your film camera and slap it on your digital body so that when you set your exposures identically on both cameras the digital one would yield results similar to what the film one had been giving you all along!
Anyhoo, here are a couple of interesting shootouts between digital sensor and film
in both over- and under-exposed situations...
Twin Lens Life ~ Fine Art Film Photography ~ Los Angeles Southern California ~ Bwright Photography: Digital vs. Film (The Real Deal) - Nikon D300 vs. Fuji GS645s:
Twin Lens Life ~ Fine Art Film Photography ~ Los Angeles Southern California ~ Bwright Photography: Digital vs. Film - Canon 5D Mark II vs. Kodak Ektar 35mm "Pound for Pound, Pixel for Pixel":
...and welcome to the world of digital image making. Things are not always as they appear.
Best to you,
Jimmy G
Jul 10, 2013 at 04:10 AM
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p.1 #11
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Your premise is that Camera makers calibrate exposure in their cameras to a 18% gray card.
They also do not calibrate to reflectance, so there are two incorrect assumptions.
Jul 10, 2013 at 04:29 AM
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Think of "expose to the right" (a guide and not a rule) as meaning "expose close to the right but (almost) never too far to the right."
You often want to expose to the right - e.g. keep things as bright as you appropriately can - in order to avoid two problems in shadows of scenes with very large dynamic ranges, both of which can be challenging if you need to bring up the dark areas in post: noise in shadows, and banding (not noise banding) if you expand the shadows. (The former is because the signal level ends up not far enough above the noise floor and the latter because fewer data levels are available for recording the darkest portion of the image.)
However, you (generally) do not want to go too far in pushing the highlights since you risk "blowing out" the brightest areas of the scene. Here digital behaves quite differently than film. With film, (esp. negative film) the response to light "rolls off" at the brightest levels, allowing you to push those highlights a bit and still get some detail. But with digital, the failure is abrupt - once the level in a color channel saturates, no detail will be recorded. If you saturate all three channels, basically you just get plain white. (We've all see photographs by people who missed this - for example, beautiful textured clouds with gross pure white bright areas that have no detail left.)
So, yes, you have fewer stops to work with above the supposed optimal exposure in digital. While you may be able to get away with blowing a few small specular highlights, you almost never want to allow an area of the scene with important texture, etc. to blow. Further, you need to watch carefully that you don't blow an individual channel. (The classic error is with a subject that is very hot in one channel, usually the red channel. The red and green channels can be fine, as can be the average of the three channels, but the red channel blows badly. See many overexposed flower photos for examples. )
Sometimes you don't want to expose all the way to the right. A very low contrast scene with a lot of interesting detail in the regions of near-white tonality can sometimes give you a bit more to work with in post if you hold back from the right just a bit.
Jul 10, 2013 at 07:59 AM
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Although I've been photographing since 1960 I still think nailing exposure is harder than nailing focus. Not sure all the fancy algorithms and weightings make the task easier either. Normal scenes no woories, get a vast tonal range and it gets much harder. Agree about the blinkies, but then I only see them after the shot is taken, that's too late sometimes. I generally take a test shot, check historgram, switch to M, adjust exposure, take another, check etc until I'm sure that the white objects are not blown. Yes, I can sit on the shutter and take 6 identical shots, there's always one that's underexposed.
Jul 10, 2013 at 01:14 PM
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About not knowing until after the first shot - just think of your camera and its histogram display as a very fancy and expensive meter. Go ahead and use that first shot to zero in on the best exposure. No embarrassment in doing that!
Jul 10, 2013 at 02:55 PM
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JIMMY: Thank you for the links - I will check them out! In regards to your questions:
- I used my camera spot meter pointed at an evenly lit gray card, which completely filled the frame.
- I used the meter to determine "normal exposure," i.e., set at 0 on the Exposure Level Indicator.
- I then took a series of photos of the same gray card in the same lighting in 1-stop increments, 5 down and 5 up.
This is a link to my series of photos:
A screengrab of my series of exposures.
What confused me was that ALL 5 down (underexposed) stayed within the histogram; however, only 2 up (overexposed) stayed within the histogram. The apparent imbalance in the range of latitude really confuses me. Why 5 down the range but only 2 up?
I suspect it has something to do with the way the sensor works, i.e., it assigns half the data to the brightest highlight in the scene.
SCALESUSA: thank you for the link. Very helpful. I too noticed that my 18% gray card exposure was 1/2 stop to the left! I was so confused; now I know why - thanks....
DAN: thank you so much for the helpful info, especially the point about the red channel - very interesting. But I still have this one question: if the in-camera histogram is based on a camera generated JPEG, then how much discrepancy is there between that JPEG reading and the actual RAW image I ultimate care about? In other words, I'm not getting a histogram of my RAW image, but a camera generated JPEG, so how accurate is that?
Thank you all!!!
Jul 10, 2013 at 03:41 PM
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The in-camera preview (Jpg) is good enough for judging when clipping occurs (blinkies)... As long as you don't see blinks, you are good to go
Jul 10, 2013 at 04:03 PM
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i usually let things clip a little on the in-camera histogram, because i know i can recover a certain amount in camera raw. as for how much you can recover... depends on the scene, the camera, etc. you just have to get to know how the files from your particular body react.
Jul 10, 2013 at 04:58 PM
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CJBoghosian wrote
JIMMY: Thank you for the links - I will check them out! In regards to your questions:
- I used my camera spot meter pointed at an evenly lit gray card, which completely filled the frame.
- I used the meter to determine "normal exposure," i.e., set at 0 on the Exposure Level Indicator.
- I then took a series of photos of the same gray card in the same lighting in 1-stop increments, 5 down and 5 up.
This is a link to my series of photos:
A screengrab of my series of exposures.
What confused me was that ALL 5 down (underexposed) stayed
within the histogram; however, only 2 up (overexposed) stayed within the histogram. The apparent imbalance in the range of latitude really confuses me. Why 5 down the range but only 2 up?
I suspect it has something to do with the way the sensor works, i.e., it assigns half the data to the brightest highlight in the scene.
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Hi again, Christopher,
Okay, thanks for the clarifications! Here goes with some more homework for you...
The problem lies not with your camera but with our understanding with what our camera's histogram is actually telling us. Most folks (and a good portion of the internet) have this belief that 18% grey is middle grey to our cameras, or value 128 (on a scale from 0-255). Such is not the case. It turns out that our cameras use an sRGB-adjusted gamma for their histograms, not a linear gamma of 1. As a result the bit value for middle grey is more like 117 in sRGB. There's an excellent (read: understandable) write-up on this under the
Simplest test to show obvious truth - Histograms show gamma data
header a bit more than half-way down this page...
Histograms show gamma-encoded data:
...explaining why you're seeing 2 1/2 stops up and 5-stops down. Your experiment, as it turns out, recreates the author's experiment and, not surprisingly, corroborates his findings!
Another page that utilizes this experiment, but where the author both struggles for but never figures out the math behind the effect is here...
Digital Tones and Exposure Zones:
And, another, still, under the
Calibrating Your Brain to Understand the Histogram
header, with no attempt at understanding or explaining the "why it is"...
Interpreting the Camera Histogram:
FWIW, you can actually view the RAW images, and their RAW histograms, in Linear Gamma from your 60D using Canon's DPP software.
Hopefully, again, this is of some help!
Jimmy G
Jul 11, 2013 at 04:49 AM
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CJBoghosian wrote
DAN: thank you so much for the helpful info, especially the point about the red channel - very interesting. But I still have this one question: if the in-camera histogram is based on a camera generated JPEG, then how much discrepancy is there between that JPEG reading and the actual RAW image I ultimate care about? In other words, I'm not getting a histogram of my RAW image, but a camera generated JPEG, so how accurate is that?!
You bring up an interesting question. I could answer several ways. One would be to go look up which picture setting is the one that supposedly provides the most accurate histogram display since, as you mention, it is based on (or at least used to be based on) a jpg version of the image.
But... in reality the histogram image, no matter how "accurate" it is, must still be interpreted by the photographer. The red channel issue is a good example. Here is a little list of issues in this particular situation:
1. Some don't realize that they can display a multiple channel histogram that separately displays the red, green, and blue channel histograms. The combined ("white") histogram display averages the RGB values. This works fine for many sorts of scenes, but in those that are strong in one channel but weak in the others, that strong channel can be over-exposed with no indication from the white histogram, since it averages that over-exposed channel's value with the less intense values of the other two channels.
2. With this in mind, at least with subjects that are very strong in one of the color channels (but why not all the time?), it is better to use the three channel display and watch for the strongest channel to determine your ETTL ("expose to the right") based exposure settings.
3. However, this isn't enough in all cases. There are certain subjects in which you might still need to drop your exposure by a stop or so. Here I commit the sacrilege of actually
looking at the image in the LCD
, where I have learned to recognize how
responds to near-blown or blown channels by changing the image color or saturation in those areas. This is not an objective measure nor an accurate view, but it tells me that I'm pushing it in situations where the camera says I'm not. Another situation - which I think I mentioned in my earlier post - is when the image is very high key and I want to retain sufficient detail in the near white tones. Here I will
push all the way to the right, especially if there are few or no dark tones in the scene. I find that I'll have better luck working those high key tones in post if I "underexpose" a bit from the supposed ideal ETTR setting.
Among the many themes that I would like to see more forum photographers understand is that there is no such thing as a camera-determined ideal or perfect exposure. There are many ways to decide to expose a thing, and we still must use our experience and exercise judgment (and occasionally make an educated guess) about things. Some, especially new photographers and double-especially new "digital" photographers hope that the camera will make the right decisions in all cases. This simply is not the case.
Take care,
Jul 11, 2013 at 09:40 AM
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Thank you again, Gentlemen.
I checked out the articles you linked to, Jimmy, and I have to say they got a bit too technical for me! However, I did grasp the general ideas and am finding more and more that Dan's overall position is the way to go: personal experience and discernment.
However, I am very happy that I am gaining a better sense on how digital exposure works. I cannot approach it in the same what as I did with film - that's certain.
I'm definitely going to give more attention to the three channel histogram in-camera. Dan's warning regarding scenes that are monochromatically heavy is great to know and something to watch out for!
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Brewer is the throaty git on the microphone. He writes and sings for Barleyjuice, as he did previously for Company of Wolves, and before that The Ravyns. His whiskey-soaked vocal nodules have been exploited for everything from VH1's Before They Were Rock Stars to Dodge commercials, and he can be spotted with the unkilted eye in such cult films as Serial Mom and Fahrenheit 911 as well as playing a cop in NBC's Homicide and a sleazy photographer in CBS' Hack. Never really any good at holding down a steady job, Brewer occasionally pipes with the Loch Rannoch Pipes & Drums, and joined them in the Millenium Pipes March on Edinburgh, Scotland for Prince Charlie's Marie Curie Foundation. Kyf wants fans to know that his favourite colour is plaid and to please refrain from tossing haggis at him onstage, as it can be quite slippery.
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Though spurned at birth and subsequently raised by squirrels, Swanny has shown great adaptive skills. After leaving the security of his treetop home to rejoin the human world, he eschewed acorns in favor of guitars and bagpipes, and earned the rank of Pipe Major of the Loch Rannoch Pipe Band in 1997. He and they marched in the Millenium March in Edinburgh, Scotland in 2000. Swanny founded Barleyjuice with Kyf and others in 1998. His vast collection of Nancy songs and uncanny ability to pick an apropos jig is the stuff of celtic-rodent legend.
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Despite being both Scottish and Irish, Eric was allowed to join the band anyway. He has spent the last several years using his walking bass lines to step all over the vocals of such Philly acts as the Bobby Lenti Band, Lenny G and the Soulsenders, and his own pet project, Otto's Jacket. Prior to that, Eric lived a dual life of Accountant-By-Day, Lap-Dancer-By Night, which may explain his kilt fetish. Or not. And ladies, his favorite colour is eleven.
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Irish-Italian, hailing from the outskirts of Philadephia, Alice had been searching for just the right vehicle with which to exhibit her limitless talents. After pillaging various universities including Eastern, Temple, and Immaculata, collecting degrees and opportunities, she has found a home with Barleyjuice, who encourages her to make as much of a spectacle of herself as she pleases. Alice can also Irish dance as well as Latin dance, so we warn audiences to give her space, lest someone be injured should she attempt both at once.
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Keith Barnes mother was a black Irish and his father was a war vet - no better combination to create the perfect Irish rock drummer. After dabbling for years in rock, punk, Irish rock, reggae and ska, Barnes began showing up at Juice gigs, offering his services as a sub drummer, which he was granted numerous times over the years until, in 2014, he confidently took over the permanent position of official Barleyjuice pounder. And with bandmates Kyf Brewer and Keith Swanson, any question as to why we call him by his surname?


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Russia dominnate rhythmic gymnastics
LONDON, England (AFP) — Before a sea of red, white and blue flags, Russia pursued their merciless dominance of rhythmic gymnastics by claiming their fourth consecutive Olympic group title yesterday.
The Russian team posted a score of 57.000 points to finish above Belarus and three-time world champions Italy at London's Wembley Arena, to the delight of the many Russian supporters present.
With Evgenia Kanaeva having successfully defended her title in Saturday's individual final, Russia have now won every Olympic gold medal in the sport since the start of the 2000 Games in Sydney.
Italy secured the world crown in 2009, 2010 and 2011 and were bidding to claim a first Olympic gold medal, but they had to content themselves with bronze, eight years on from a second-place finish in Athens.
In the final, the five-strong teams perform only two meticulously choreographed routines — one with balls, and one with hoops and ribbons.
Russia earned a score of 28.700 for their balls display and although the Italians' energetic routine stirred their many compatriots in the audience, it was only good enough for second place.
The second routine involves three ribbons and two hoops, the gymnasts tossing the objects between each other as they run, leap and roll around the mat.
The Russian display was a visual treat, the gymnasts sporting silver leotards with bright pink skirts and sporting ribbons coloured yellow, green and red that evoked a carnival feel.
Their sprightly performance yielded 28.300 points and it proved enough for gold, with the Italians' high-energy routine, soundtracked by Gioachino Rossini's William Tell Overture, only earning a mark of 27.325.
Belarus slipped in front of Italy with their routine, leaving some of the Italian gymnasts in tears but giving the Belarusians their third medal in the event after silver in Sydney and bronze in Beijing four years ago.


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On Wednesday, Cliff Lee received his first contract offer from the Yankees. The offer is thought to be six years long and worth between $137-150 million - a very substantial offer that may win Lee's services outright.
Lee's agent Darek Braunecker then left the Winter Meetings, suggesting that no agreement was upcoming, but now, according to Ken Rosenthal, a decision is coming soon. How soon? As Rosenthal writes, Lee is set to make his decision by the end of the weekend.
The Yankees are locked in a battle with the Rangers and a few other mystery teams for Lee's services, and for the Rangers' part, they've asked Lee's agent to be informed of what it would take to re-sign the lefty ace. Texas isn't about to let Lee go without a fight. But with Lee's choice apparently coming shortly, the Rangers will have to make their best offer, and as they likely can't compete with New York's money, they'll have to count on Lee's wanting to play closer to his Arkansas home to make up the difference.
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Elliott and the friends with whom he recorded in middle school in Texas (photo courtesy of Dan Pickering)
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The right is still railing against MoveOn.org, three days after the group held a raucus party to unveil the winner of its "Bush in 30 seconds" ad contest. Opinion Journal's James Taranto, abetted by Matt Drudge, riled up the troops on Wednesday by printing selective anti-Bush quotes from some of what Taranto called the group's "puerile B-list celebrity" supporters. On Thursday Taranto actually admitted that the winning ad, "Child's Pay," was "professionally done" and "surprisingly unobjectionable." (Andrew Sullivan liked it, too.) But the damage was done: A performer at the event, comedian Margaret Cho, has been getting racist hate mail from Free Republic, according to Cho's manager. (Some of the mail is posted at American Politics Journal.) And as Salon's Michelle Goldberg details, lots of right-wing bloggers are getting even nastier than Taranto toward MoveOn supporters. Meanwhile, CBS television apparently has decided it wants no part of the 30-second spot for its upcoming Super Bowl programming.
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MN Senate Race: 11/11 Update
There is not much news today on the Minnesota Senate race, as counties completed and certified their counts yesterday. Coleman's lead remains at 204. However, counties are now conducing post-election audits of their vote totals that aim to check the accuracy of the voting equipment, although they are designed so that they will usually not change the result of an election. Also, here is some information identifying where Franken has picked up his extra votes. The actual recount begins next week. Both parties have agreed on some chain of custody rules that they would like to see followed and asked the Secretary of State to issue an order making them enforceable (see more info here and here, q. 37).


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We set a record at GetReligion last week for the post that received the most comments — 112 at this point. We looked at some of the coverage of the Supreme Court's recent decision to uphold the federal Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. For such a divisive issue, and with comments coming at it from all sides, almost all of the perspectives offered in the comment thread about how to improve media treatment of the issue were fantastic and informative.
Probably the hottest topic was what language to use when discussing the law and the procedure which it bans, which I brought up in the original post. I thought it was interesting the lengths to which the mainstream media were going to avoid using the term "partial-birth abortion." I noted in my post that the term was not a medical term — although it has now been defined by federal statute. Intact Dilation and Extraction is the medical term. Sure enough, the first commenter — NigelP — chimed in on the issue with his view:
The reason nobody refers to the "partial birth" procedure is because there is no such medical procedure.
Other readers noted that the media use many non-medical terms when describing medical issues. For instance, reader Will noted:
"Stroke" is not a medical term. Let's ascribe sinister motives to anyone who does not say "cerebrovascular incident" or "ischemic attack."
Reader Kimberly offered further thoughts:
People can say "partial birth abortion" is a non-medical, more emotional label, but they can't object to it as being inaccurate, as some have here. It's absolutely accurate — the fetus is partially born — with the cervix dilated and the fetus delivered breech until it is almost entirely outside of the body with only the head inside the vaginal canal. Then it's aborted, by collapsing the head so that it won't be alive when it emerges completely (in which case it would be all the way born). Partial-birth abortion is absolutely accurate.
Ramesh Ponnuru pointed out a few more examples in his book — the press routinely says "heart attack" instead of the clinical "myocardial infarction," and people know what it means even though it's non-technical. When Congress banned "assault weapons," the media used the term even though it was emotionally loaded (no pun intended) and non-specific as to what exact weapons were being banned. The insistence on using clinical specific terms only arises when it comes to this curious "method of abortion" that the majority of reporters find disadvantageous to the cause to define.
Reader Michael had a different problem with the term — its alleged creation by abortion opponents:
Terms created by neutral medical groups or a profession are different from terms created by politically-motivated interest groups as part of a strategic, political decision. The use of such terms in journalism about the most politically- and socially-charged issue of our day should be avoided at all costs, it would seem.
We certainly didn't settle the debate but it helped to learn more about various arguments. I thought all of this was interesting as I finally got around to spending more time with Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's well-covered dissent. I haven't seen this discussed in the media yet, but Ginsburg took sharp issue with the majority opinion over some of the language used there:
Throughout, the opinion refers to obstetrician-gynecologists and surgeons who perform abortions not by the titles of their medical specialties, but by the pejorative label "abortion doctor." . . . A fetus is described as an "unborn child," and as a "baby," . . .
I thought these examples were interesting because the media struggle with the same issues. Here, here and here are examples of the media using the phrase "abortion doctor" in the past week.
While abortionist is more specific and has a longer pedigree, it's considered by some to be pejorative. It's hard to see how "abortion doctor" could be conceived as pejorative, considering abortion doctors call themselves just that. One wrote a book called Why I am an Abortion Doctor. Slate reporter Dahlia Lithwick used the phrase in 2005. The New York Times editorial board used it in a pro-choice editorial. The president of Planned Parenthood used the phrase and was quoted in a ruling supporting the right to abortion by the U.S. Court of Appeals. NARAL Pro-Choice America uses the phrase on its website, denouncing Sen. Tom Coburn for his opposition to abortion. Planned Parenthood uses the term on its site. And the Abortion Clinic Directory uses the phrase. More examples are here.
The term "abortion doctor" doesn't appear in Dorland's Medical Dictionary. "Abortionist" does. I can't find any help in my basic AP Stylebook — although I'm recovering from a sinus infection that may be affecting my research capabilities — but I believe the AP recommends the use of the term abortion doctor instead of the term abortionist because it says the latter connotes criminal behavior. It is true that the term "abortionist" was coined when it was illegal to kill a fetus. That may explain why some think its medical definition is pejorative.
"Fetus" was the second example offered by Ginsburg as preferable language to that used in the majoirty opinion. Fetus comes from the Latin, meaning offspring. Many people debate whether "fetus" is a better word for the media to use than "unborn child." The AP Stylebook doesn't have entries for "fetus" or "unborn child" — sometimes to hilarious effect.
When the Chicago Tribune revised its stylebook in 2004, it urged reporters to use the phrase "unborn child" for, uh, offspring who were nearing their due date, NPR interviewed the folks involved in the decision. Their discussion was very interesting and offered some help for the issues we're discussing. This snippet is why they oppose the word "fetus" for late-term unborn children:
DON WYCLIFF: You're safe, but you're not reflecting the state of the language in society today. I might add that Roe v. Wade was not a decision that said the fetus or unborn child has no rights as a being. It said that — the rights of the child as a dependent being cannot outweigh the right to liberty of the mother. Normally, by the third trimester, one can assume that the mother intends to have this child. In most cases. And therefore, we are recognizing that, in her view, most often, the child is an unborn child and not just a fetus any longer.
RANDY WEISSMAN: One other thing that we clearly took into account was also the legal issues. The courts have started to recognize the human status in many instances. The Scott Peterson case in and of itself was not necessarily the changing point, but what it did point out was that a court could charge a person with murder of an unborn being — and– that kind of progression within the legal system has forced changes in a lot of different things, but certainly in our style and how we approach that.
BROOKE GLADSTONE: Surely you know that you're entering a very dicey area by starting to refer to some fetuses as children. You haven't avoided a debate. You've walked squarely into it.
DON WYCLIFF: We're going to be in a debate no matter what we choose, and what we're trying to do is reflect the state of the language, and medicine, and law in the society.
I love the candor from both the interviewer and her subjects. I also find it fascinating that the word used to describe the offspring in the mother's womb changes based on whether or not the mother intends to continue or terminate the pregnancy.
BROOKE GLADSTONE: I wouldn't be surprised if, in the future, you get quite a bit of reaction to the replacing of fetus with unborn child. It's the words that you use that change the way a debate is framed.
I think this shows why we cover abortion coverage here at GetReligion. The use of the word "fetus" can have the effect of dehumanizing the offspring, while the term "unborn child" can humanize the offspring. There isn't really a good middle ground, and both phrases could indicate a bias about your perspective on pregnancy. The arbiters of language used by the media are still working on an answer.
Anyway, what the media say does matter. Ginsburg used one of the New York Times Sunday Magazine pieces in support of her dissent: The one written by abortion rights advocate Emily Bazelon. The one about how post-abortion syndrome doesn't exist. We discussed it a few months ago, and I wasn't entirely critical of the article — I thought her look at how the abortion rights movement doesn't address the issue was insightful. I just thought she should have talked to more than one woman — a seemingly non-representative one at that — who claims otherwise.
As frightening as it may be to consider — and as low of a bar as this referencing of The New York Times Sunday Magazine represents — the point is that the courts pay attention to what happens with media coverage of this issue. All the more reason to be careful with the language we choose and the topics we cover.


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HORRY COUNTY, SC (WMBF) - Two men are behind bars after a police officer discovered photos on a cell phone connecting them to a dog fighting ring.
The cell phone was found lying in the road in the Cedar Branch community Sunday night by an Horry County Police officer.
That officer was looking through the phone to find out who owned it when he discovered photos of dogs fighting.
Horry County Police obtained a search warrant for those photos, and after reviewing video on the phone were able to identify two suspects, 23-year-old Leon Dale Green and 19-year-old Byron James Jackson.
Green and Jackson were booked into J. Reuben Long Detention Center Monday afternoon and charged with animal fighting or baiting. No bond has been set.
Sandy Brown, director of the Grand Strand Humane Society, says it can be difficult to spot dog fighting locations. But she says there area telltale signs on dogs that could indicate if they're in danger.
"If they've got little scars all over them, or their ears have been clipped, that's for fighting purposes," Brown said.
Horry County Police Spokesperson Sgt. Robert Kegler says the dogs in the photos and videos have not yet been located. But, he also says investigators are continuing to look over the video, and more arrests are likely.
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I don't think they were DOA as such, although I think there was a diminishing level of interest in NEM by the time it arrived in theatres but I'd guess that's not quite the same thing as DOA.
I think the thing that FC does better than the others is play to the cast chemistry and their characters interactions. More than some of the other films did. The right characters separated between ground and ship, something for everyone to do at least once in the film etc
For me, the next two didn't manage that and the GEN didn't because it was too heavyily focused on Kirk, Picard and Data.
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Ignoring the stories, I thing that NEM's weaknesses were as you said the boring battle and the flat characters whereas the TNG characters were OK in INS and the battles in space and on the planet weren't bad per se but bad because they didn't work in harmony with the attempts to make this movie funny and political.
In short, production-wise it's the indecisiveness of INS which caused its problems just like Baird's decisiveness to do a stupid action movie caused NEM's problems in my opinion.
The single large difference between the TOS and TNG movies is that the latter lack irony. Rarely do the characters get some distance to themselves, only Picard does it from time to time, when he learns something about himself in GEN or FC or when he comments on the increase of military and diplomatic duties in INS.
The funny thing about NEM is that I like the cut-out scenes which focus a bit on the characters and create at least a tiny bit of a mood much more than the movie itself.
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The official enrollment at Colorado State University-Pueblo exceeded 5,000 for the first time in 25 years, with the University again welcoming the largest freshman class in its history and boasting a nearly 22 percent increase in headcount over the last two years.
The overall headcount for the Fall 2009 semester grew 9.6 percent from 4,610 to 5,051, with gross full time equivalent enrollment increasing more than 11.8 percent to 4205.9. The 1,054 new freshmen represent a two percent increase over last year's record-breaking 1,033 freshmen. The number of new freshman has increased a whopping 68.4 percent since 2007.
The last year student headcount exceeded 5,000 was 1983 when 5,097 students were enrolled at then University of Southern Colorado.
CSU-Pueblo President Joseph Garcia said the two-year enrollment figures are important since the economy has brought many students back into higher education within the last year. CSU-Pueblo's growth, however, began in advance of that trend and has flourished even more due to continued strong recruitment both within and beyond Colorado's borders. The number of applications from Colorado students has increased more than 45 percent over the last two years, while applications from students outside of Colorado have risen 83.9 percent.
Garcia said the figure that perhaps best represents the University's transformation from a commuter school to a more traditional campus is doubling in the number of students living on campus. In the last two years, that number has grown from 532 students in Belmont Residence Hall and Walking Stick Apartments in 2007 to 914 residing in Belmont, Walking Stick, and the newly opened Crestone Hall this fall. In 2010, the University will open an additional 500 on-campus beds with the completion of Greenhorn and Culebra residence halls.
"It has been exciting to see and feel the new sense of activity and energy that has come from the dramatic increase in the number of students living on campus," Garcia said. "There's a definite new spirit howling at events, in halls and classrooms, and everyday conversation."
The number of students from Colorado increased 9.8 percent (+400) with the top growth areas being Denver, Arapahoe, El Paso, Adams, and Otero counties. Students from outside Colorado increased nearly 8 percent, resulting in a 34.9 percent increase in non-resident students over the last two years. The University again saw significant numbers of students from California, Hawaii, and Texas. According to Assistant Vice President for Enrollment Management Joe Marshall, the dramatic two-year growth has resulted from a combination of enhanced marketing, the expansion of athletic programs, and increased retention.
"Clearly, CSU-Pueblo has become a University where students want to study and graduate," Marshall said. "As a result, CSU-Pueblo remains the fastest growing university in Colorado."
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07/05/10 07:55 - 83.ºF - ID#52107
2010 4th of July
The Fly overs where pretty cool and they where explained kinda after then when they where done there where more of the fly overs. Tom Stahl and the Dangerfields where up next or something like that.
Now some pictures of the Marina and the pretty water
For anyone who is reading this there is one thing I should explain I posted fireworks pictures to Facebook. I had a bunch selected but only 51 posted for some reason, in other words some of these pictures might be in the album and some may not, here I only have a few minutes, for anyone who is reading this so we shall see. Hope everyone had a great holiday and I hope you had a good 5th and enjoy these pictures.
That my time, hope you enjoyed them, I did!
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wish #7 Neat Freak (UFC)
That isn't the only reason why a Part of me wishes I was a neat freak. (IF anyone is reading this) I need to explain that a clean freak and a neat freak are not the same thing, in some people they can be. A clean freak needs everything to sparkle and shine and be germ free. That can be kinda scary and lead to being scared of germs. What I mean by a neat freak is that every thing is organized in some form and there isn't any clutter and important papers are hidden away and when you walk into the place it looks un lived in. Of course I assume that along with that would be a very nice and big pretty TV in a holder and all the DVD's and CD's and movies would be easy access but not all over the place, sounds like a great way to live. Tables with drink holders and great couches or what ever. Why do I picture wood floors when I have a carpet in all my rooms.
Yes having a bunch of people over for food and drink and a great time would be one benefit but it wouldn't be the only one. I think a general sense of relaxation would be one of them, when I wasn't stressing about the neatness. But If I was a neat freak it would be 2nd nature and I wouldn't think about it. I think it would make budgeting better. If you are that organized you won't go oops that bill is late again. I think it could also lead to more planning of stuff out side of the house I'm not sure.
The thing that I wonder about is if I could function. Say people are over and they say put something where it doesn't belong would I freak. "You have to fill that glass up or wash it you can't wait till this fight ends", ha. See because the empty glass just sitting out of place might drive me insane. I wonder if I would be able to bring someone home from a bar or if it would be the same problem as with glass. "could you fold those and put those on that holder, yeah on the floor doesn't work", ha.
I think that if someone could come up with a way to train people to be different then what they are (I know they used to training kinda like that years ago but that was more like a manors thing) and then they had to let you go back, they could make a lot of money. But I think it would also be a great service. This kinda Happens on a show I haven't seen in some time called Wife Swap. It would happen because the families who trade wives/husbands would all ways be so different. So it is a way to see how a family who runs the home and how they raise their kids different works out for them. Hopefully each family can learn from the other and take aspects that they like, that they just can't do themselves.
When ever I write these I all ways feel as though I've left stuff out or could have said more but am never sure of what I should have said differently. It isn't like I write an out line. After all this is a blog not a paper for school, thinking back I never did an out line back then, maybe if I did I would be a neat freak. I'm not saying that I want to be one but it would or might be nice to be that way. I wonder.......................
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07/03/10 06:09 - 78.ºF - ID#52091
Eclipse Air Bender cakes
I thought The Last Air Bender was pretty good. I have never seen the cartoon, those that have know it is called Avatar (not to be confused with that other movie). Since I haven't seen it I don't know where it lines up story wise. I liked it, my say is that if you like that kind of movie you will like it.
So Twilight Eclipse. I liked it and thought it was good. That being said I still would have liked more action and a little less love story. To me the twilight movies are heavy on the love story. Yes all great Vampire movies do have some love story or romance hidden in there somewhere but it often is the main thrust. I still thought it was pretty good though and liked the action scenes.
On the way home I ate at two places 1st zillycakes . I had no idea what to get so I went with the red cupcake and built from there it was pretty good, I will go back there again and try others.
I admit I often forget about Louie's on Elmwood I stopped there and got a good 1/2 burger. After I ordered I decided I should have gotten a shake the Elvis one sounded really good and so did the black Raspberry one I should have got loaded fries but I didn't feel like spending that much, i still enjoyed what I had, I now have a reason to go back there again.....
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07/02/10 05:09 - 74.ºF - ID#52084
4th of July?
Some time ago I thought the 3rd would be a great day to go the Falls and go on the Maid of The mist. I haven't been on since I was a kid, plus it would be cool to take some pictures of the falls from the boat, well assuming I could get to the edge (water camera). But that is out what I think I'm just going to do is order UFC. I want to see the Lesnar fight it could be pretty good, but you never know in fighting. I would be cool to do the Bison's thing with the BPO but it is kinda late notice.
IN terms of the 4th I assume I'm going down to the waterfront to see what ever is going on down there and eat and maybe even drink something. I remember last year was fun. With that the question is, do I find a spot on the grass or do I try and find an edge so I'm over looking the water. Looking over the water was a trip the first time the way those boats hook up to each other is something else..... I wonder what the fireworks look like from a boat. I have no idea if I'm going down there solo or if any of the family is going down, who know we shall see I guess.
I was hoping last week to try Zillycakes maybe this sat. One thing I have to do is go to at least one movie. Yes I do need to see the 3rd Twilight Movie I saw the other 2 so...... But that isn't the only movie I want to see there are some movies that I still haven't made it see yet and I think one of the movies I also want to see opened up yesterday. I'll look into those movies times and then see what happens Sat. Morning. I also have been craving a great burger I wonder if I can make that happen.
Hope everyone has a great holiday weekend!!!! Oh yeah and that no one gets blown up.
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06/27/10 11:58 - 75.ºF - ID#52048
Federal Common Law Idea
Some states have common law marriage or even Partner rights. Why not have this at a federal level. When two people share the same home or live together (kids or not). They go down to a Federal building or court house of some kind and prove they live together. If there are kids then prove where and when they have them. At this point they are registered as a federal union. After so many years maybe 5-7 somewhere in there. They then go back and they file a formal request to joined. Someone verifies it and they are legally one.
At this time if there are any other legal things like a prenup that would be handed over then.
Again Both people would be there.
This would not be a marriage but legally it would be the same in terms of laws and rights.
Religion and faith would have nothing to do with it.
Just the couple would be there in like an office it wouldn't be with other people like you might do with a Justice of the peace.
There would be a process of when people separate to dissolve the contract.
Once you are registered and you separate not letting the feds know would be a crime even before the 5 years.
If you move onto someone else then you let the feds know and then you could live with someone else.
The fact that it is federal and not state is very important. The register would be set up so that you can't live with someone in FL and CA at the same time. That would be a crime just like being married to two people would be. See at the state level this wouldn't be trackable. The other problem is at the state level two people could be "A legal Couple" then move to a different state that doesn't recognize this agreement and then there goes the rights you have. But also think about how crazy Health Care could be. Each Company would have different rules for different states.
The Bottom line is this. I think that everyone should be treated the same, and if you are a family you are a family. It is to bad that we need the government to intervene. Not that I think this will happen but I think it should.
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06/26/10 07:44 - 73.ºF - ID#52047
Double Sandler and Karate Kid
I thought the Karate Kid was very good. When I saw the preview I expected it to be just like the original. Don't get me wrong I don't remember all the story of the 1st two I was young the last time I saw it. I will admit they had to set up the story before they got into the action and that is ok. I myself thought it was very good. Oh yeah one thing that through me a bit is how much the kid really looks like will smith, it is scary and was tough to get used to but I still liked the movie.
Tonight I'll be watching Funny People (Adam Sandler). I am hoping that it will be very funny. Comedy is a strange thing sometimes what shouldn't be funny is and sometimes it is the other way. Grown Ups to me at least strated out very funny. I thought there was a great cast and a good story. The thing with most of Sandler's films is that they aren't all jokes all movie long, they do put that family or meaning or getting your life on track that kind of thing in his movies and yes that was in there as well. I enjoyed it and had a good time. It was also nice to see Rob Schinder get some movie time and not just saying "You Can Do it". Guessing if you like his other movies you would like this..........
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06/23/10 05:06 - 81.ºF - ID#52018
Elmwood and Soccer aka Futbol
So so far I like the New Estrip. One thing that I have to get used to is that if someone has multiple posts Like (e:vincent) has 3 showing (e:paul) has 2 that I don't have to go in order if I click on the newest one then I can also see the older posts and just go down the line. I haven't tried yet yet to go forward and see how that works.
Oh yeah the Youtube Video I figured I should test out so I made one. Yes it is dark and after that looks kinda trippy. The point I was trying to make is that Yes The World Cup is a big event but I just can't really get into soccer. I think part of what I don't like is that it takes time to go down the field and then often once you get down there no one scores. I'm also kinda the same way about Elmwood. I like the strip and there are a lot of great places but often I don't go places or I forget about places, I just went to the New ETS last weekend. I was going to buy an I heart shirt when I first saw them but then all the girls started wearing them, so I was like I don't know they are like a girl style now. I didn't really say all this in the video though. I have wanted to try Toyoko Shanghi since it opened and never gone, I forget about Louie's all the time, I can't tell you the last time I was in an elmwood bar, guessing St. Pats to Jackdaw (Yes ran into Timika and Jenks so that was some time ago), that is just a guess. So as much as I like Elmwood I don't use it as much as I should. I do think that part of it is because I think of Elmwood as for 4 kinds of people and I'm not any one of them:
1. The Cool People
2. The People who live really close and shop there
3. The Un-cool people who are now cool for not being cool (would that be a hipster)
4. The people who come from the burbs.
Well this all started out just as a test to see if the video works hope some people like it. I'm also hoping to use Elmwood more then I do......
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06/19/10 07:53 - 77.ºF - ID#51967
A-team and Jonah Hex Rocked
Couple preview things. Insurection with Leonardo DiCapio looks really good and really confusing. Predators looks like a through back to the first movie I want to see that. I don't remember what it is called but there is going to be some movie with Bruce Wills, Sly, The Gov of Cali, and Jason Strathen (Jet li Movies, Transporter, Crank). That should be interesting. Oh yeah the new Resident Evil movie in 3D looks increadable. But that brings up a question I have. There was this ad for Wonka bars, yes they look like they are coming right at me off the screen, it was amazing it really was, but if they can do it in an ad why not in these 3D movies?
Onto Jonah Hex. Yes I admit Megan Fox is hot and I won't say all the dirty kinky things I would love for her to do to me. But in this movie that is the role is playing plus I think she pulls off the action Parts. I have heard that this movie has been bashed and things from the comic have been changed, but I never read it so..... I thought action wise it was pretty good. I liked the story and the settings. There where also some pretty cool visual things as well, and I don't mean just Fox, again don't want to say anything to give anything away. What I will say is that the movie really moved quickly and had great rocking music. The stuff in the end credits was really good, wish I could have thought of more interesting stuff to say to the hot lady who comes in to clean about the movie music, like hey have you ever seen this band live, who knows if anyone can fill you in on the music in the movie that they like it might be someone who works there.
All in alll I really liked both movies. Here is what I will say is if these are your type of movies you will like them, if romantic comedy is your thing go see Killers (haven't seen it but it looks like it will be funny, yes I want to see it) I had stuff I had to get at target so I missed the Zillycakes 1 year cupcake thing, it sounded really tasty to, oh well. I guess I'll try them some other time.
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06/18/10 07:00 - 81.ºF - ID#51952
Wish #6 Spontaneous
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06/16/10 07:50 - 72.ºF - ID#51903
2010 Artfestival Art
The above site is for one of the people's art I bought. I know the festival gets bashed by many but I do like the art that they have, well some of, and I'm sure some people don't like what I do. This post is also a test the one I did yesterday was in Safari and this one is IE just want to try it out and see if anything is different well here is that guys art that I bought:
Rip Bodman has some really interesting art and is pretty interesting himself . That should lead to the piece of art I bought, I forgot to take a picture of it. It is real bright colors and good contrast. I have thought of buying his stuff in the past but haven't I think price was a factor not sure if it was cheaper now or what my mind set was.
Paul Massaro is a Tattoo Artist But he also does paintings. I bought prints. I think his work is amazing. I don't know what it says, or if it does. The one that I really wanted he didn't have a print of but I think you may enjoy his stuff. I had to come back on sunday. Yes I did like the Jesus Arm Wrestling Santa claus but it wasn't the one I really wanted but I like the two that I got.
The One I really wanted the most:
The reason I like it is you have the historical stuff like the moon and the bombers. What does a burning time magazine mean and what about that mask on the TV? But also in the room that animal has an arm and is the same thing that is happening in the picture, plus the entire thing is so striking.
Well I might as well include some pictures from the festival and the general sense of things:
Before I got to a few pictures from Sunday I have to say that is sure seemed when I was there that less people where there compaired to last year. But that is just me.
Well Now it is time to see how it comes out, I enjoyed the festival hope those that partok or didn't had a good time.
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The biggest disappointment of this baseball season is pretty obviously the lack of Gameday badges. There is nothing else at all disappointing about this season. At all. Luckily, it's simple to find the badges. Here's how:
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The Swedes have opened up the game a little bit, separating themselves from Germany on a goal by Loui Eriksson to give them a 2-0 lead at the 14:13 mark of the second period.
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Going "Down Under" (NZ #5)
This post is now available at the CURIOUS NATURALIST blog.
The Nest Box blog will eventually be discontinued.Published by Arlene Ripley on April 12th, 2012 Tagged Birds, Nature, New Zealand, Wanderings
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April 16th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Hi Arlene, wow the Chateau is beautiful. It must have been fun staying there. I enjoyed seeing the birds, wildflowers, volcanoes and the black swans were my favorite. Love the cute baby swans. What a great sighting. Just seeing all the Black Swans would have made my day. Lovely photos.


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Current Series
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Bamboo 54 is one of the leading manufacturers in their industry. Bamboo54 Inc. is a wholesale company based within the distribution hub of Los Angeles, California. Our 25,000+ s.f. warehouse facility affords us an effective and reliable implementation of the Just-In-Time distribution model. With an active customer list of thousands and corporate clients around the world, we continue to provide the very best in service and dedication. Our skilled workforce and unique management style ensures direct personal and competent attention. We understand fads and trends within the retail industry and use such influences from around the world to bring that bit of culture to your shopping experience.
About bamboo Throughout the eastern cultures, bamboo has been a symbol of serene inspiration, as Buddha himself preferred it in his house. The many uses of bamboo are varied and numerous, almost anything can be made from it, with imagination as its only limit. There are some 1,500 species of bamboo grown throughout the world today, basically prevalent in every continent except Antarctica. Although categorized into the grass family, it can reach 150 feet in height and 1 foot in width.
Advantages of Bamboo strong, durable, stable, and flexible possess a tensile strength stronger than steel bamboo homes were the only ones left standing in a 1992 earthquake in Limon, Costa Rica hardness comparable to maple wood one of the fastest growing plants on earth some species grows 2 inches per hour matures to harvest in about a year trees take decades to produce the same amount of material 60-hectare plot of bamboo equals 500 hectares of rainforest sustainable and renewable like grass, it grows from the base up trees die at harvest, bamboo doesn't, just keeps on growing root system remains between harvests hold soils together, prevent erosion, and stop rain run-off. a natural water treatment plant ability to utilize water pollutants as a fertilizer transforms harmful elements into useful materials is extremely tough was the closest surviving life after nuclear detonation in Hiroshima grows in many diverse regions no need for toxic chemical treatments
Using bamboo instead of wood conserves tropical forests, stimulates healthy agriculture, and nurtures sustainable life. Bamboo is both beauty and brawn all in one; its elegance redefines their surroundings while serving to promote inner peace and spiritual contentment. At Bamboo54, we know that the environment is both beautiful and important. Bamboo..good for us all. Grow it. Live it. Use it. Love it.
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