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- 1 gmail.pl does not seem to be up anymore
- 2 Archive from sent mail
- 3 On behalf of
- 4 Technical Issues - Sep 1, 2009 outage
- 5 188.8.131.52 as Spam
- 6 Undue weight
- 7 Automate archiving?
- 8 redirect from googlemail???
- 9 Merge with Gmail interface
- 10 gmail.com is available in Germany
- 11 Added Gmail Labs List In Table: Needs Modification
- 12 Added Background Send In Labs Section
- 13 The .03 USD reactivation
- 14 Mistakes/Propaganda
- 15 Update Gmail screenshot to new 2011 version of Gmail
- 16 gmail storage upgrades
- 17 File:Gmailmobileviewgoogle.gif Nominated for speedy Deletion
- 18 File:Gmail Mobile View.png Nominated for speedy Deletion
- 19 Question regarding competitors
- 20 Gmail Feature: 2 Step Verification!
- 21 Outages
- 22 10 GB of space
- 23 Added back "Security warnings" section
- 24 Renewed Official Help Center and Official Product Support Forums
- 25 Google search to include Gmail search as a trial
- 26 Unique phone number issue
- 28 non-commercial?
- 29 Terminating accounts
- 30 Tagged as outdated
- 31 Garfield Email
- 32 Security section
- 33 April Fools' jokes
- 34 Trademark disputes
- 35 Proposed merge with Gmail interface
- 36 Moving sections from Gmail interface
- 37 Account termination
- 38 Twenty-four hour lockdowns
gmail.pl does not seem to be up anymore[edit]
I looked at gmail.pl this morning, hoping to see what is described in the section on Poland, but I found just a notice that the domain is registered. I think the article should be updated to reflect this. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 15:11, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Archive from sent mail[edit]
Earlier edit "Gmail does not allow users to archive from Sent Mail as can be done with the Inbox. Many users would like the option of a removable sent label which would allow them to clear and store sent messages as they can with received mail. This would allow users to choose a conversation in Sent Mail and remove that view without affecting the conversation in the Inbox. The only way to clear Sent Mail and not delete an entire conversation currently is to delete sent messages individually. An archivable Sent Mail would mean you would truely 'never have to delete another message'." was reverted as it's a blog-like unreferenced entry. Had to be reverted twice, so starting a discussion regarding it here, to avoid edit-war. --Oscarthecat (talk) 20:46, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
- Has been reverted 3 times now. Warning placed on user's talk page. --Oscarthecat (talk) 20:56, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
On behalf of[edit]
This section needs revising. It implies that Google implemented RFC2822 incorrectly, which isn't the case. It implies that Google changed this implementation in July; it didn't, it added a separate mechanism which works differently. Emails sent via gmail's servers will still display the same way in Outlook. It implies that Google adds "on behalf of" to email messages, when this is Outlook's presentation of the information provided. See revision 307525508 for an attempt to correct this; improvements welcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 14:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- Dear anonymous user, there was a problem, and it has now been fixed. There are no longer comments on the message boards, and I can send emails from my own account without "on behalf of" being displayed. Get over the technicalities; the problem that users noticed can now be avoided with the new option gmail offers. This should be good enough. Timneu22 (talk) 01:21, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Technical Issues - Sep 1, 2009 outage[edit]
Prior to today, the Technical Issues section contained information about the February 2009 outage. Today a similar outage, perhaps more serious, is affecting users, and this information has been added as well. The information was then removed with the cryptic explanation of a reference to WP:NOT. I have restored the info about the September 1, 2009 outage. Anyone who thinks it needs to be removed should explain why here. For example, what specific section of WP:NOT do you think applies here? --Born2cycle (talk) 20:37, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- I have modified the page to indicate Gmail's demise. Wonder what all those masses will do for email now? Pay for it? Ha! Fat chance! 126.96.36.199 (talk) 21:11, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- Is there any reason to believe this is anything close to a permanent outage? I'm frustrated myself, but in the absense of such evidence, I've reverted. -- 22.214.171.124 (talk) 21:15, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- As usual, we require verifiability for article content, so can't include analysis or prognostication that is not explicitly supported by reliable sources. DMacks (talk) 21:18, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, it's back up now. So it must not be permanent after all. Thank god! I was beginning to think that those Socialists in the White House were taking our Googles away from us, or something. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 21:24, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
18.104.22.168 as Spam[edit]
Do we have any information on the fact that some ISPs are refusing mail from Gmail's IP (22.214.171.124) on the basis that it is a spam generator? Some of my single messages to individuals have been bounced and there are questions on the Gmail Help forum, but nothing official I can find. Bielle (talk) 19:42, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Undue weight[edit]
The 'Gmail Interface' section is barely 5 lines long, while the criticism section runs for serveral hundred lines. Shouldn't the summary of the interface section be given more coverage than the criticism section? EngineerFromVega (talk) 07:17, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- Due to the huge length of the interface section in this article it was split into a new article Gmail interface. It would make no sense to then reintroduce this text back into this article, however if you think the criticism section is getting long and is dominating this article, it may be time to propose splitting it into Criticism of Gmail (which currently just redirects back to this article). - Ahunt (talk) 13:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- I'm also thinking along the same lines. Even if we have a separate article for Gmail interface, we should include a bit more content in this article, at least 10-12 lines. A satellite article should be properly summarized in the main article, giving readers a good idea about the interface even if they decide not to read the main entry. Let's expand the interface section and reduce the criticism part. I'm against making a Criticism of Gmail article as we don't have an analogous Praise of Gmail article. EngineerFromVega (talk) 14:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- To add more to my above post, we should also expand History of Gmail section, as it poorly summarized in the current article. EngineerFromVega (talk) 14:49, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- Well Wikipedia has a large number of articles like Criticism of Windows and Criticism of Linux, but doesn't have "praise" articles. Those are usually contained in the "reception" sections of the parent article from which the "Criticism of..." article was split, which is why I suggested it. I don't think expanding the "Interface" section by a few lines would be a problem - it is just a matter of not getting carried away and duplicating what is in the Gmail interface article to any great degree. - Ahunt (talk) 14:54, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- Alright. Let's expand the Gmail interface and History of Gmail sections with proper summaries of the main articles. Also, let's propose a separate article for Criticism of Gmail with a 1-2 paragraph summary in this main article. As this article currently stands, there is more content about Gmail hoax and criticism than history, interface and features. EngineerFromVega (talk) 15:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. 1-2 day wait sounds good to me. EngineerFromVega (talk) 15:24, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Automate archiving?[edit]
Does anyone object to me setting up automatic archiving for this page using MiszaBot? Unless otherwise agreed, I would set it to archive threads that have been inactive for 30 days and keep ten threads.--Oneiros (talk) 01:28, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Fixed I've changed the archiving to numbered archives and renumbered all archives.--Oneiros (talk) 19:15, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
redirect from googlemail???[edit]
Why does googlemail redirect to gmail? googlemail is different from gmail - I know, because I get email sent to my name at googlemail all the time, and it's intended for another person with the same name. Wikipedia is really dropping the ball on this one! Thomas144 (talk) 09:14, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- "Wikipedia is really dropping the ball on this one!" There is no such person as "Wikipedia". Wikipedia is every editor working on this article, including you. If something in the article is incorrect then you can change it provided you can cite a reliable reference to back it up. Opinions and original research don't cut it. - Ahunt (talk) 11:03, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
I know Wikipedia is not an individual person; I was referring the collective community. I think I understand what is going on - someone with my name in Germany had a googlemail account and was probably forced to choose a new, distinct name, but they forget to change the the "reply to" address in some email program. I actually figured this out from reading the wikipedia article, although the current writing is a little confusing, I think... Thomas144 (talk) 17:44, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Merge with Gmail interface[edit]
Since User:188.8.131.52 tagged the Gmail interface article for merger with this one, but didn't start the discussion, so I thought I would start the discussion for him/her.
- Oppose - Gmail interface was split from this article because this article was too long to begin with. Merging content back would just make it longer yet, when it is apparent that both articles will continue to grow over time. If Gmail interface needs improving then improve it, merging will not accomplish that. - Ahunt (talk) 17:25, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- support yes, the current gmail interface article has more stuff than could be comfortably merged into this article. however if you look at the actual content, most of it is not appropriate for any encyclopedia article on Wikipedia, being thinly disguised "how to" and promotional advertisement claims sourced to google itself. The actual usable, encyclopedic and third party sourced material about the interface could easily, and may already be, incorporated int the parent article. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 03:06, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
- It's definitely not a how-to. One could argue it's WP:UNDUE though. --Cybercobra (talk) 06:53, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
- Are you serious? check the "organization" and "addresses" sections for example - the sources are all google "how to" documentation. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 00:22, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
- There may be Google help pages used as refs, but the article itself does not give instruction on how to do things in violation of WP:NOTMANUAL. There is no problem using Google as a ref on its own products, which is how these are being used. The article also has 13 non-Google refs cited at the present time. - Ahunt (talk) 12:38, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
- Are you serious? check the "organization" and "addresses" sections for example - the sources are all google "how to" documentation. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 00:22, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
- It's definitely not a how-to. One could argue it's WP:UNDUE though. --Cybercobra (talk) 06:53, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Okay this merger proposal has now run for a week and there is clearly no consensus to merge, so I will remove the tags. - Ahunt (talk) 13:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
gmail.com is available in Germany[edit]
gmail.com is no longer unavailable in Germany, although new mail addresses are still @googlemail.com --188.8.131.52 (talk) 10:13, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Added Gmail Labs List In Table: Needs Modification[edit]
I have added he list of current Gmail Labs. This was a heavy work. Help to modify this section. Thanks --Tito Dutta (Talk) 08:50, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have removed it, it was totally unsourced and thus failed to meet Wikipedia policy requirements and is essentially trivia and non-encyclopedic information, even if refs could be found for each entry. These are also experimental features and are added and removed regularly, they are not part of Gmail's core service. This list would require updating weekly to indicate which ones are still active, new ones added, etc and that is if refs were cited. It would quickly be very out of date. - Ahunt (talk) 11:19, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- 1) I am not sure of it. I am a Gmail Help Top Contributor. Of course editor's personal experience does not matter in Wikipedia, but,Gmail does not make changes in Labs so frequently that the section will be needed to update every week. The last change in Labs was done on 31st May. So, this section needs to be updated every week does not seem to be a strong point. 2)And about reference, this can be added as a verification.
Currently I am not making any change in the article. Thanks! --Tito Dutta (Talk) 11:46, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- Referenced or not I contend it is still WP:TRIVIA and thus non-encyclopedic content. You have to keep in mind that Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia, not a technical manual that must include every minute detail on every subject. Big lists of available features like this are outside the scope of a general encyclopedia. - Ahunt (talk) 12:24, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- If it is a trivia, then according to- Wikipedia Trivia Guidance "Trivia sections should not simply be removed from articles in all cases. It may be possible to integrate some items into the article text. Some facts may belong in existing sections, while others may warrant a new section." So, I suggest integration, and if that is not possible then I am suggesting to create another article on Gmail Labs. Without Gmail Labs Gmail (both article and webmail) is not only incomplete, it is meaningless. Currently the Gmail Labs section is below standard and does not contain sufficient information. I added "2 Labs Graduate..." few days ago in that section, but, that does not make any big change. So, you can say, the topic drifts here- about the standard of Gmail Labs section... By the way... 2-3 days ago, you wrote "Welcome message" in my talk page. Thanks for that! :) --Tito Dutta (Talk) 13:07, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- I do agree that the existing section on Gmail Labs could be expanded and improved, but I do not think that adding a table or list of all of them available is what is needed. For instance we have an article on the Cessna 172, but don't include a list of all the different types of fasteners used to assemble one, because it would be trivia. You could start a new article on Gmail Labs, but without independent third party refs to show notability I don't think it would last long. One of the key principles is that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. There are lots of editors watching this article (706 of them to be precise), so let's gather some more opinions as to whether this should be included or not and gain a consensus either way. - Ahunt (talk) 14:28, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Added Background Send In Labs Section[edit]
In the article I have included Background Send in Labs section. Thanks! --Tito Dutta (Talk) 06:27, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
The .03 USD reactivation[edit]
An IP editor keeps adding this section to the article. I have removed it, but he or she reinstated it along with a bunch of external links that didn't support the text claims made. The text is at best a WP:SYNTHESIS and the section title is clearly WP:POV. Overall this seems to be an issue for the Google account article and not specifically the Gmail article as it deals with Google account administration and this doesn't belong here even if it were properly referenced. There seems to be an WP:AXE issue here as well. I propose the section be removed. - Ahunt (talk) 12:07, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm who add this section. Here my opinion:
1) The best reference for a gmail account is the gmail help page.
2) .30USD reactivation is an issue about both gmail and google accounts, indeed informations can be found in both gmail help and google account help pages.
3) The most important thing is that the references used are official google pages supporting the text. In particular, google explicitly claims that reactivation of a gmail account is in between few minutes if made via credid card, and can take days or a couple of weeks using other methods. This can be checked just by reading the linked references. (I cut and pasted the text from google pages!)
It is an important criticism as everybody can see surfing blogs. Blogs are not suitable references for that because they are not stable, for that reason I referred only to official google pages.
I propose section to stay here with the links to google official help pages. The information provided is correct, neutral and referenced.
The above critics of Ahunt are clearly made without even reading the references. It is not a WP:POV a text which is cut and pasted from an official gmail page. The WP:AXE here is claiming that references does not support the text or that it is not an issue of gmail. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 08:01, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
- Actually I have carefully read the external links you keep posting. The external links you keep adding (against guidelines, by the way, which says "they should not normally be used in the body of an article.") do not in any way show that this has actually happened to anyone or that it has been an issue for anyone or that it is in anyway notable to this article. There is no such thing as a "Gmail account", only a "Google account". I still contend that if you have reliable third party refs that show that this is an issue then it should go in the Google account article as it is no more a Gmail issue than it is a Blogger issue or Picasa issue. Right now you have not provided any reliable third party sources to show that this is notable and therefore worth mentioning. The axe reference is that this looks like a Google account problem that one person has had and upon discovering that Wikipedia doesn't mention it thinks that it must be included. - Ahunt (talk) 17:13, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
I may be wrong, but are other third part fonts necessary when google pages report that that problem occurred to many people? Here just a couple of random google forum pages with posts of person whose account was blocked: "page1". "page2". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk)
- Those are forum posts and are specifically not acceptable as references under WP:SPS. In reading the forum posts though, it is clear that the issue is not one of Gmail, but of Google accounts in relation to Google+. This is the wrong article to put this in, but even then third party refs, like a published review or similar are required to show that this is a notable issue. We don't report every little complaint that anyone has about subjects from forums in Wikipedia, because it isn't notable. - Ahunt (talk) 11:56, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
- I see this section has now been moved to Google account, where it belongs, if it belongs anywhere, and can therefore be removed from this article. - Ahunt (talk) 12:02, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
I am surprised by the ostination of Ahunt. I really don't understand the reason he continues to remove this section from the article. He continues claiming that this is not an issue about gmail, while the references used come from gmail help pages, he continues claiming that there are no references while full-references are added.
If some other people is watching this discussion please post your opinion. I believe in democracy of wikipedia and I think Ahunt is seriously damaging it with its perseverance in canceling what I post. In my opinion now other people should come into this discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 11:54, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
- We don't normally duplicate text in different articles. I suggested this was a Google account issue, you moved it to Google account, so it doesn't need to be duplicated here. Another editor just reverted your addition of the issue back into this article. so we now have a consensus to leave it in Google account. This page is being watched by 716 editors and if anyone supported keeping this item here they would have spoken up by now. I proposed that it be removed and as per WP:SILENCE we have a consensus to do so. - Ahunt (talk) 13:25, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
This is not WP:SILENCE is just ostination: one user add a section another remove it, no consensus in that. If ona user gives up and stop to trying to contribute to this wiki page because the other is more perseverant, this is not consesus. There is no consenus in a matter which involves only two users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 17:29, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
- It is pretty straightforward - two editors removed it, no one came forward to support you in re-inserting it. You have no consensus to include this. Time to Wikipedia:Drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass. - Ahunt (talk) 17:34, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
ha ha ha, that's ridiculous. keep your page as you want I don't care... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 12:29, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
No surprise a Google page is locked. There needs to be a way to make corrections. The first paragraphs makes the claim that Hotmail offered 2 MB of storage when Gmail came out, and simply sites the Hotmail Wikipedia article to "prove" this bizzare statement. Hotmail offered 2 MB in 1996 before Gmail had ever stolen the idea from the large companies that had bought theirs from little companies. There are several more problems with this article regarding pro-Google stances, but locked web pages are usually locked by the companies themselves, i.e. Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2. People hated the Microsoft monopoly but every idiot on the Earth is loving Google at the moment. In any case fix your mistakes, you fools. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 20:22, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
- Pages are "semi-protected" to prevent IP address editing only due to excessive vandalism. Companies described in articles do not control Wikipedia pages. If you want to edit then open a Wikipedia account. It is that simple. - Ahunt (talk) 23:26, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Gmail: one account, all the world to choose from. Unknown (talk) 13.23, 24 Dec 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 13:23, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
Update Gmail screenshot to new 2011 version of Gmail[edit]
Google has updated Gmail's look on November 1 2011. A new screenshot is needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 14:24, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
gmail storage upgrades[edit]
Is the comment in section 1.1 regarding google storage upgrades still valid? The purchase storage upgrade page linked clearly states "Additional storage will not apply to Gmail." (zzyss (talk) 23:45, 8 December 2011 (UTC))
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Question regarding competitors[edit]
I've added in this edition a reference to a video by Microsoft where Google is criticized for privacy issues in Gmail. Yet, that edit was eliminated from the article by User:Ahunt in this edition which had the follwoing description: "Competitor's videos don't belong here, removed". Is this right? -- Mecanismo | Talk 16:04, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
- If this video had been covered and discussed in a neutral third party reference then the issue might be notable, but the fact that a competitor criticizes a product is not notable by itself. - Ahunt (talk) 14:59, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Gmail Feature: 2 Step Verification![edit]
I suggest to add 2 Step Verification as Gmail's feature! --Tito Dutta Message Contribution Email 07:08, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
I really question the value of having a list (now a table) of Gmail service outages in this encyclopedia article. All cloud-based services are going to have periods when they are unavailable. It is analogous to adding a list of flat tires users have experienced to the Ford Mustang article. I think this is really a case of WP:NOTNEWS and I propose that it should be removed from the article. - Ahunt (talk) 12:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Your question is definitely a good one. See this version of the article. Date>>Outage, Date>>Outage, Date>>Outage... But what was actual problem, nothing is mentioned, what happened in these days?. How many accounts were affected? Nothing is mentioned! And I have started adding furter citation in the section, you/we can remove the table and rewrite like:
- MM/DD/YYYY: On this day Gmail users after signing in found their Gmail inbox, contact empty. 1.5 million accounts were affected!
But only "Gmail outage" does not make any sense! --Tito Dutta Message 12:44, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well adding more details and formatting is one solution. Spinning it off to a separate article such as List of Gmail outages could be another solution. What I am proposing here is just deleting it as "non-notable", but I am more than willing to look at other solutions. - Ahunt (talk) 12:56, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- In addition to what you have said, yes, only "Gmail outage" and "no details" does not make sense I think! Also, I am not sure what we/you have tried to do in outage section, the section is actually "PCWorld's list of Gmail's key outage. In Gmail, you'll find Gmail outage in every week
- 2012 April 17 April 5 April 4 April 3 March 7..
- So, I feel we should add only key outages with details of the outage, how many people affected since there are multiple Gmail outages every month,--Tito Dutta Message 13:17, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Since the outages are relatively common on Gmail, as they are with all web-based services, I think that makes this nothing more than WP:TRIVIA and that none of it should be included. It would be like including every small accident that a model of car has. It is expected and individual incidents are not really notable. Let's see what other editors have to say and see if we can come up with a consensus. - Ahunt (talk) 14:10, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Only most critical outages are (should be) included, anyway, I do not have any opinion on if we should create a list of outages, but, if we make a list, I feel, we need at least some details about those outages! --Tito Dutta Message 14:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Since the outages are relatively common on Gmail, as they are with all web-based services, I think that makes this nothing more than WP:TRIVIA and that none of it should be included. It would be like including every small accident that a model of car has. It is expected and individual incidents are not really notable. Let's see what other editors have to say and see if we can come up with a consensus. - Ahunt (talk) 14:10, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well adding more details and formatting is one solution. Spinning it off to a separate article such as List of Gmail outages could be another solution. What I am proposing here is just deleting it as "non-notable", but I am more than willing to look at other solutions. - Ahunt (talk) 12:56, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Well it has been a week with no other inputs. There doesn't seem to be a consensus to remove the outages, but I think we have a consensus to clean it up and only report the ones that are notable and reported in third party sources. - Ahunt (talk) 12:16, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
10 GB of space[edit]
Looks like Google has increased the storage space to 10GB: http://gmailblog.blogspot.pt/2012/04/gmail-now-with-10-gb-of-storage-and.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 13:17, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- The article has been updated. - Ahunt (talk) 13:27, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- And the second part needed to be updated too. An editor has made the change. He has heard some other things like when someone will buy 25GB, Gmail storage will be also increased to 25 GB. But, he is not sure of it, so has not mentioned anything about it.--Tito Dutta Message 17:48, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Added back "Security warnings" section[edit]
While this section has very little content, I don't think it should be removed without good reason.
This feature is notable enough to have been mentioned by multiple prominent international news organizations, e.g.:
- http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18335957
- http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/06/tech/google-hacking-alerts/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
The political ramifications of such a feature are interesting by themselves, even if the feature is less interesting. The governments of China, Syria, Iran, and others who like to censor the internet probably aren't too happy about its introduction. Google's clashes with China and fallout from things like Buzz in regard to dissidents in such countries have been in the news on multiple occasions, and are well documented on Wikipedia (see Google China, for example).
--Fritzophrenic (talk) 20:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
- bbc ref can be added and more details. one line line subsection is looking weird. every new feature of gmail is discussed in some web articles, but wikipedia is not a directory! --Tito Dutta ✉ 20:31, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
- hi, i have not undone it. but some clarification needed there! -Tito Dutta ✉ 20:42, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Renewed Official Help Center and Official Product Support Forums[edit]
Google has renewed its product help center (FAQ) and product support forums.
There are always users who say, "I've deleted my account and lost all my mail and contacts, can I get it all back?", or "I've forgotten my password / My account has been hacked, what can I do?"
Up until now it seems that the attitude of all webmail providers was, "This is a free service; it's not our responsibility to protect idiot users from themselves".
This new official forum support from Google to help users recover their accounts seems to me to be unique and notable — but has anybody heard of other major free webmail services like Yahoo! and Hotmail planning to do the same in future, or offering such a service now?
I propose to add a section on Support like:
Google offers a free Gmail Help Center FAQ, and a Google Groups Official Gmail product forum for official Gmail product support. Google will help recover your account if it is accidentally deleted.
LittleBen (talk) 02:59, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for bringing this up here. I removed it because I didn't think it was all that notable. We don't include every small detail about a product in an encyclopedia article, just the main points. That said I am keen to hear what other editors have to say. - Ahunt (talk) 10:33, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
- Check it here: Google Help Forums! --Tito Dutta ✉ 12:13, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
- I changed the "ref" tags above to links to make it more clear what I propose to add. It seems that one has to be a member to find out what recovery options Microsoft offers, but Yahoo! does not seem to offer such account recovery options according to this article. LittleBen (talk) 16:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
- Gmail Help Forum is not an individual forum, over all it is Google Help Forum! Almost every product has a help forum, I don't think it should be added, it is already mentioned in the article Google Help Forums. --Tito Dutta ✉ 17:18, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
- I don't recall using the term "individual product forum"—maybe it is used in the Google Help Forums (plural) article—but most English native speakers would understand that to mean that "each product has its own individual forum" (within the Google Help Forums), which is what you seem to be saying.
- If you look at the Gmail forum, it seems that the "renewed" Gmail support extends even to Google undeleting accounts that users have deleted, not just helping users recover accounts that have been hacked (or whose password has been forgotten). It seems that competing services don't offer support that extends even to undeleting accounts, making it unique and notable. LittleBen (talk) 03:29, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- I am highly confused here. I leave it to Ahunt. Let me clear my points before that: the help section you are talking about, I am a Top Contributor (it means– highest level volunteer) of that help section since January 2011 (please read my/our interview in official Gmail Blog name: Tito Dutta), and the account recovery procedure you are talking about– I specially work/participate in that section, I know every step of it.
Anyway, 1) you begin recovery procedure from https://google.com/accounts/recovery (Note the URL, it is https://google.com/accounts/recovery which is related to https://accounts.google.com and the URL is NOT https://gmail.com/recovery), that means you try to recover the Google account from Google Help section, and not particularly Gmail account from Gmail Help. 2) Do you have Paid Google Apps account or Adwords account? If you have, you can expect a better support for similar trouble 3) This account recovery procedure is not new too, I used the same procedure to recover my own account in 2009 and have been suggesting the same thing in forums for last 3 years,
Over to Ahunt, who is much more gmail-Intelligent than me! --Tito Dutta ✉ 05:42, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- I was pointing out that Gmail now seems to have quite solid account recovery even if an an account is deleted (I think I read somewhere that they keep accounts at least for one month), but Hotmail and Yahoo! Mail don't seem to offer this, so this feature is surely notable.
- One suggestion that you might pass on to Google is that they provide a notice at the top of the forum suggesting that people with problems first check out the Help Center. There doesn't seem to be any link to the Help Center, so people (in the forum) are asking questions that are already answered in the Help Center. LittleBen (talk) 07:19, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- I am highly confused here. I leave it to Ahunt. Let me clear my points before that: the help section you are talking about, I am a Top Contributor (it means– highest level volunteer) of that help section since January 2011 (please read my/our interview in official Gmail Blog name: Tito Dutta), and the account recovery procedure you are talking about– I specially work/participate in that section, I know every step of it.
- Gmail Help Forum is not an individual forum, over all it is Google Help Forum! Almost every product has a help forum, I don't think it should be added, it is already mentioned in the article Google Help Forums. --Tito Dutta ✉ 17:18, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
- I changed the "ref" tags above to links to make it more clear what I propose to add. It seems that one has to be a member to find out what recovery options Microsoft offers, but Yahoo! does not seem to offer such account recovery options according to this article. LittleBen (talk) 16:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
So far it looks like we have one person in favour of including this as notable and two who think it isn't notable enough to include. What we need here is more input from other editors to come to a consensus. Normally we let these sorts of discussions run for seven days to give everyone interested a chance to look the issue over and add a comment to get to a consensus, so I suggest we do that here as well and let this run until 28 July. - Ahunt (talk) 10:06, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Did you read my post above? Hm? Okay, again, it is a part of your Google account recovery (longer explanation above), so, if you really want to add these information add in Google or Google account article.
- One month– wrong, they don't mention any time, they say "recently deleted" (but it is surely much more than one month)
- Have you checked Facebook account recovery system? it is much easier. so do you suggest it add similar section in FB article too?
- What made you think Yahoo does not have good back up or recovery system, their recent 450,000 password hijacking? Please see Yahoo's recovery procedure (though I have not tried it personally)! --Tito Dutta ✉ 10:49, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Google search to include Gmail search as a trial[edit]
In August 2012 Google announced that a trial had been started allowing Gmail to be included in Google search results. Because this is just a trial I don't see any reason to include it in the article at this point in time. If it becomes a permanent feature than it can be mentioned. - Ahunt (talk) 13:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Important feature! We can mention that trial! I hate this feature and will prefer turning it off in my account! --Tito Dutta ✉ 13:20, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- The problem I have in adding it, even with a reliable ref like the one above, is that Google trials lots of things and then doesn't incorporate them. It pushes the boundaries of trivia to mention these. The only reason I even brought this up is that another editor kept trying to add some spam link on the subject all over the place. The Guardian link is a much more reliable ref, but I am still not convinced the topic is notable, at least yet. - Ahunt (talk) 13:34, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Ya, I also tried to revert those. But, you were quicker..:) This sub section Gmail#Gmail_Search can be changed into a new section with Gmail search and Google search etc. But, I'll suggest not to add this right now. For example, recently Gmail has added a new feature– you can add unlimited number of back up phone numbers in your 2 Step verification setting. We have not mentioned it too. We should wait for some time, I think! --Tito Dutta ✉ 14:00, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- The problem I have in adding it, even with a reliable ref like the one above, is that Google trials lots of things and then doesn't incorporate them. It pushes the boundaries of trivia to mention these. The only reason I even brought this up is that another editor kept trying to add some spam link on the subject all over the place. The Guardian link is a much more reliable ref, but I am still not convinced the topic is notable, at least yet. - Ahunt (talk) 13:34, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Unique phone number issue[edit]
This requirement to associate a unique recovery email and/or phone number with an account makes it difficult for would-be spammers to set up multiple accounts. – How does it make it difficult to set up multiple accounts? And what is "unique phone number". I am using my (one) phone number with 4 accounts! --Tito Dutta ✉ 16:50, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
EDIT AND SEMI PROTECT?[edit]
Um.... why is this? Have we just won the game?126.96.36.199 (talk) 20:42, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- The article's history shows it is semi-protected because of persistent spamming of external links. This means that only established editors editors can edit the article. If you like you can open an account or, alternatively, you can make note here on the talk page of changes you would like to see and one of the existing editors will evaluate your proposed changes for incorporation into the article. - Ahunt (talk) 21:42, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
I think it is commercial, not non-commercial like the article stated, if you prove me wrong, I'll leave it as it is, if I'm right, I'll change it. --TheChampionMan1234 07:25, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
- I think it is pretty obvious that Gmail is a commercial product, based on advertising revenue. I have changed it. - Ahunt (talk) 12:32, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
- Gmail is like Google Search——you don't have to pay to use either of them, however advertisements are displayed. Advertisement-free versions (like Google Search for company web sites) can be purchased on a subscription basis. Isn't the term for this something like "a dual-model" rather than (100%) "commercial"? (I'm thinking of some open-source software that is available in a free community version as well as in an enhanced and company-supported commercial version).
- Just looked at the article, and like the "free, advertising-supported" in the lede. It is surely possible to leave "Commercial?" in the template blank, and perhaps add info. about the commercial version that is part of [www.google.com/intl/en/enterprise/apps/business/products.html Google Apps for Business] in the article body, if the article doesn't already mention it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LittleBenW (talk • contribs)
Terminating accounts[edit]
I think this article should include a section about how Google in many cases, without warning and user consent, terminate Gmail accounts. For instance if Google "suspects" that the user of an account, EVEN when the account belongs to a company, is under 13 they lock the account and demand money or a copy of national ID from the user in order to unlock it. To withhold or confiscate mail in that manner is illegal in many countries and a measure no other e-mail provider would ever take. It is quite extraordinary that a company like Google does this and I consider it the most severe set backs of the Gmail service. (22.214.171.124 (talk) 07:51, 28 April 2013 (UTC))
- If you can cite a reference from a reliable source then this can be added. - Ahunt (talk) 11:46, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- I can't. Apart from numerous Google support-threads, blog posts etc, that probably can't be considered reliable enough, there are no newspaper articles about it (as far as I can see). This blog post describes a part of the problem;
- http://sunpig.com/martin/archives/2011/07/03/google-made-my-son-cry.html
- In this case the victim was an "underaged" boy whose Gmail account Google simply erased without giving him a chance to make any back up. Many people would probably consider that being a less severe issue.
- But the problem is more grave since Google applies the same rule to business accounts, accounts that doesn't have a physical owner. If you can't "prove" that your company is above 13 years of age (who the F*CK can do that?) Google may simply erase all your Google accounts, Gmail, Youtube etc, which makes Google a very dangerous solution for companies. Unless all employees using the accounts at all times are willing to give up personal information about themselves (such as credit card no or a copy of their passport) to prove they are above 13, which a lot of employees won't do.
- I think it should be put on a "to do"-list however for the Wikipedia Gmail-article and as soon there are reliable sources that one can link to it should be included since it is such a dangerous set back of the entire Gmail service. (184.108.40.206 (talk) 15:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC))
Tagged as outdated[edit]
The article was just tagged as outdated. What needs updating? - Ahunt (talk) 12:54, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- Okay lacking any answer to the question in more than three weeks I'll remove the banner. - Ahunt (talk) 21:25, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Garfield Email[edit]
There's been a "fact" floating around that gmail was originally a domain for Garfield.com as part of their free email service.
Sources for this point back to this wiki page under "Domain Name History". Was there an explicit reference to Garfield here that was removed? UpgradeTech (talk) 08:53, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yes it was here at one time, but was removed as not properly sourced. It seems to be more of a myth than fact and many other websites carrying this story got it from here, which shows the dangers of leaving unreferenced text in articles! The biggest danger is that it gets reported elsewhere., like that article you noted, based on this Wikipedia article and then that gets used as a reference here, completing the circle of misinformation. - Ahunt (talk) 11:27, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Security section[edit]
The content from sub-sections Extra security features and Security warnings should be moved into a new section called Security. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 10:24, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
- Done. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 14:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
April Fools' jokes[edit]
Every April 1st Google does some prank and we dutifully add it to this article. This section is getting too long and well into WP:UNDUE. I also think this is WP:TRIVIA, basically off-topic, non-encyclopedic and should be removed. Objections? - Ahunt (talk) 14:20, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Agreed. Unless any of the jokes got out of hand and attracted significant press coverage, List of Google hoaxes and easter eggs is the place for a dutiful list of this stuff. --McGeddon (talk) 14:23, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Someone just added the joke for 2010, making this even bigger. - Ahunt (talk) 18:53, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Okay with no objections we have consensus to remove the section now, which I will do. - Ahunt (talk) 20:24, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- Someone just added the joke for 2010, making this even bigger. - Ahunt (talk) 18:53, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Trademark disputes[edit]
Given the growing length of this article, surely it wouldn't be a bad idea to move 'Trademark disputes' section to History of Gmail. Objections? 18.104.22.168 (talk) 14:42, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- I agree, it would be better off there! - Ahunt (talk) 15:57, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
- Done. -18.104.22.168 (talk) 16:35, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Proposed merge with Gmail interface[edit]
Gmail interface should be merged with Gmail since it does contain useful information that needs to be kept but should probably be moved into 'technical' or 'UX' sections of Gmail because this article would not be seen easily or come across with its current title. -24Talk 17:55, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- It was originally split from Gmail because the Gmail article was too long. Both have got much longer since then. - Ahunt (talk) 22:31, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
Moving sections from Gmail interface[edit]
The article Gmail interface includes sections like Browser support, Language support, Applications and Google Apps provider branding, topics which have little or nothing to do with Gmail's interface. So I propose moving these four sections to the main article. -SD0001 (talk) 10:12, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Account termination[edit]
I do not understand why this is a 'criticism'. Google may terminate a Gmail account after nine months of inactivity.[120] Other webmail services have different, often shorter, times for marking an account as inactive. Yahoo! Mail deactivates dormant accounts after four months.[121][122] This should be removed, or added to another section. Right? -SD0001 (talk) 10:09, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- I agree that this should be in another section, it isn't a criticism, more like a feature. - Ahunt (talk) 13:08, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Twenty-four hour lockdowns[edit]
The entire sub-section is based upon a single, primary source – the Gmail help page. The listed reasons for lockdowns are copy-pasted from the source. The language used indicates this more like a feature and the primary source, of course, doesn't call this a criticism either. Unless we are able to find a third-party source criticising it, this cannot be placed in the Criticisms section. I propose moving this into the Security section. - SD0001 (talk) 04:18, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- @SD0001: Seems that would make sense since it is a security features and has nothing to do with criticism. I agree. By the way, nice work on the article so far! -24Talk 11:37, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
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I've read about this one and was waiting to taste it. Poured a clean crisp yellowish type typical American lager. At 50IBU, I wasnt expected much in terms of hop and bitterness.. But at the first smell, I was amazed just how hoppy this bouquet was. Your typical grassy, grapefruity, citrus nose. I thought I was about to dive into a 100IBU Beer.
Then the first taste!. AGAIN! WOW for a 50IBU beer, this had plenty of HOPS without a lot of the bitterness. This beer drank so easily and so enjoyable. I could have this one over and over.. It could easily be my spring and summer beer.
The only slight fault I had, was that the finish left me somewhat hanging. This beer started slowly, that went on full charge, then as I was finishing, it started to finish just right and WHAM, my legs were taken under me. The beer just dropped off. The citrus which should finish nicely, just left me with an unsettled citrus flavor.
The last couple of days, I have had a number of these. And I have enjoyed each one better than the one before it. I turned on 3 people to this one and they all loved it. Its still so crisp and drinkable.. Almost chug-able, but at the same time, I can sit back and slowly sip it and enjoy it.
Only thing: So DRINKABLE!
02-01-2014 18:20:21 | More by rdilauro
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North Carolina
4/5 rDev +3.6%
I have a special fondness like alot of people do for this GR brewery.Poured into a standard pint glass a dull medium golden with almost no head to speak of,I gotta say alittle unhappy with the pour.Tropical fruit-like hop aromas along with grass to give the hops more punch,a lightly sweet malt base underneath,nice hop complexity.Tangerine hops dominate the palate with mild caramel sweetness and toasted cereal grains underneath the good hop profile.Yeah this is a great American style session ale with its big hop presence,Iam gonna buy a few six packs before grillin season.
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Poured from a bottle into a pint glass. The color is a hazy amber/copper mixture, along the lines of what you'd expect for an American IPA. Minimal head and minimal lacing left on the glass. Smells very earthy, even more so than many full-on IPAs. Heavy on the hops and very piney, full of oils and resins. Tons of citrus on the nose also, especially as it warms up, mainly grapefruit and pineapple. The taste follows right along with a heavy dose of pine, hops, and dank resins, balanced superbly by the citrus flavors of the grapefruit and pineapple. Slight warmth, which is funny considering the low ABV. Carbonation is nice and provides a good bite. The aftertaste is slightly woody and definitely bitter.
My only main complaint is that the beer tastes a bit "watery" at times, but nonetheless, is still packed with flavor for a 4.7% ABV beer. This is definitely something I could drink all day.
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4.26/5 rDev +10.4%
A: Golden with a light haze.
S: A strong citrus hop aroma with some pineapple, tropical fruit notes. There is a moderate amount of a herbaceous, grassiness from dry hopping and just a slight bit of malt sweetness.
T: This is a great hop delivery device, with strong citrus and tropical fruit flavored hops and a moderately-strong hops bitterness. The isn't much in the way of malt, just a light clean sweetness. The balance is bitter with a dry finish.
O: A great take in a lower abv IPA which highlights the hops even more than a maltier strong beer would.
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Improvement in the taste. The citrus came through more, as grapefruit, orange, and lime. Some biscuit in the background.
Nicely hopped. Definitely an all-day beer.
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New York
3.75/5 rDev -2.8%
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Founders All Day IPA from Founders Brewing Company
87 out of 100 based on 4,624 ratings.


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― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 07:34 (11 years ago) Permalink
if you're going to play magic, you MUST play by tournament rules. you needn't bother playing if there are no limits placed on the composition of the deck. wizards of the coast probably still publishes its "restricted/banned" card list as well. check it out.
when i was about 15 to 16 i played in magic tournaments EVERY sunday, and played recreationally with friends most evenings. yes, you could say that it was a very signifigant part of that time in my very sad teenaged life. at one point in the remote northern alberta town of 35,000 i grew up in there were three comic shops that all pushed magic quite heavily and at least a couple more places where the cards were available. some people took it VERY seriously.
i won't argue that magic is a tremendous cash sucker, and ultimately it taught me nothing about anything (there is little about the game that transfers to other pursuits) but there is a tremendous beauty to the inner workings of the game. it's not just about how much money you spend on it. in tournament settings, i was able to consistently trounce educated adult men with high-paying jobs (engineers, systems analysts) simply by spending a lot of time evaluating how the cards in my deck worked together. quite often the answer is not an "expensive" card but four cheap, nasty ones.
― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:20 (11 years ago) Permalink
― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:21 (11 years ago) Permalink
if you're going to play magic, you MUST play by tournament rules.
Why? I mean, in a tournament of course you do, but what about those of us who are, err, "casual players" as it were and just want a nice game to waste some time with as opposed to a weapon to "consistently trounce educated adult men with high-paying jobs"?
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 23:52 (11 years ago) Permalink
― fletrejet, Thursday, 23 January 2003 00:28 (11 years ago) Permalink
dude i was like fifteen ...
― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Thursday, 23 January 2003 05:29 (11 years ago) Permalink
― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 23 January 2003 05:51 (11 years ago) Permalink
Haha, maybe that was a bit too nasty on my part, but still- why not play any way you bloody please (or was that "You MUST..." comment just the way you saw it when you were 15?)
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:32 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:24 (11 years ago) Permalink
I'm going to be branded a geek now.. aren't I?
― Christopher (Christopher), Monday, 3 February 2003 22:41 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 3 February 2003 22:44 (11 years ago) Permalink
― webber (webber), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 00:07 (11 years ago) Permalink
Let's count the ways we could parse that sentence, hmm?
― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 01:41 (11 years ago) Permalink
A lot of Magic players are homophobic (in my experience) and in order to throw them off of their game, I would wear a shirt that symbolized gay pride.
What's really scary is that I'm thinking about playing in a sealed deck PTQ in a couple of weeks just to see if I can still compete after not playing for years.
― Christopher (Christopher), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 16:24 (11 years ago) Permalink
* (the one where you start with no cards in your card, draw one of your choice per turn, and no card can be played twice? It's kinda fun...)
― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 18 April 2004 14:34 (10 years ago) Permalink
― stephen morris (stephen morris), Sunday, 18 April 2004 16:35 (10 years ago) Permalink
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 April 2004 17:24 (10 years ago) Permalink
The "90-95% super homophobe" players mentioned above = DUD. If I was rich (xpost it's expensive xpost) I'd probably play Magic Online, and not have to see the fat guys with "horribly nasal and stereotypically nerdy voices" that unfortunately define the game.
― Richard K (Richard K), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 03:55 (10 years ago) Permalink
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 04:06 (10 years ago) Permalink
i've been having a lot of "fun" playing with the old cards I rescued from my mom's house. i refuse to spend another cent on the game, however.
― ian, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:09 (6 years ago) Permalink
a couple years ago i went to a card & comix shop and built a decent blue-white deck for like $4.00, but all the newer card editions just had all these new retarded esoteric abilities that i had no idea about
― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:16 (6 years ago) Permalink
also, the art was all these, like, cyber dragons and BULLSHIT
― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:21 (6 years ago) Permalink
We should start an ILG thread where we play against each other using SCANNERS.
― nickalicious, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:25 (6 years ago) Permalink
i only played magic for the first time a few weeks ago, how weird is that? i was intimidated by the kids who played it in high school, but it's not half as complicated as i thought.
― bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:50 (6 years ago) Permalink
you should have been more intimidated by their allowances
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:56 (6 years ago) Permalink
and/or dedication to blowing every dollar earned at the drive-thru window sunday 5am-1:30pm on crazy junk instead of like cigarettes and cds
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (6 years ago) Permalink
that is correct i am calling you bustas out
what are you talking about, i pinched a franklin from my dad's wallet to buy a mox jet
― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:01 (6 years ago) Permalink
haha, i think i was most intimidated by their cliquish aspie superiority complexes.
i think it's really fun now though.
― bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:03 (6 years ago) Permalink
ok http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Andy/ProjectEBAY/MagicCards.html these prices are so retarded omg
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (6 years ago) Permalink
people should all be blown up
in my middle school the biggest fight i got into was between pog players and m:tg players
― max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (6 years ago) Permalink
i was obviously a magic player
green & white deck, in case anyone is wondering
― max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:10 (6 years ago) Permalink
omg pog
― deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:12 (6 years ago) Permalink
if i remember those years correctly i was more worried about the shame my seminoles starter jacket would bring me after danny wuerrfle's gators pounced on them in the orange bowl than anything having to do with those fucking things
― deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:14 (6 years ago) Permalink
I used to play magic back in the mid-nineties, I still have a hundreds and hundreds of those cards in some box around here. I never paid much for them though, because I stole most of them from bookstores. I wonder if that stuff is worth something these days, the oldest cards I have are from Revised Edition or whatever it was called.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:24 (6 years ago) Permalink
god, my nerd days were spent playing Avalon Hill wargames. and banging chicks of course
― brownie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:26 (6 years ago) Permalink
my best nerd days are ahead of me still.
― bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:27 (6 years ago) Permalink
mine did not look quite as good as this one but I got pretty good
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (6 years ago) Permalink
i had a revised shivan dragon worth $50
― max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (6 years ago) Permalink
and my color selections were more noise
haha shivan dragon. back in 1995 my friend's proudest accomplishment was owning 4 shivan dragons. I wonder if those cards are worth anything today.
― burt_stanton, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:04 (6 years ago) Permalink
blue + black deck, my sengir vampires and royal assassins were so so gangster.
― deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (6 years ago) Permalink
i had two revised royal assassins
maybe more, hell if i remember
― deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:11 (6 years ago) Permalink
at my 10th bday party i beat the rich kid in magic even tho i had no allowance, i had birthday money and was a HUSTLER with trades
― deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:12 (6 years ago) Permalink
i think sometimes i threw in some green too, but only if u could throw all mana down first turn and i would use it solely for my force of nature
― deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (6 years ago) Permalink
i have a shivan dragon signed by the lady what painted it ;_;
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:25 (6 years ago) Permalink
Upset at that announcement - Of the three PT formats, Standard is my least favorite to watch and play (not that I'm likely to play in another Pro Tour again soon, heh). Also, are they just done having PTs in Asia?
― Vinnie, Sunday, 3 August 2014 15:32 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
i really wonder what prompted that decision - my first thought was 'wow you really dont want to have to reprint fetchlands' but maybe they just feel like standard is the most profitable/worthwhile format to promote? idk
i missed most of the video coverage of the pt but quickly glancing at the the top 8 records it looks like jund planeswalkers may have been the most successful deck which is kinda interesting
― dude (Lamp), Monday, 4 August 2014 15:07 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
White seems to be really powerful in M15 draft. I thought it would be since White was so underpowered in M14 (similar to how Blue was nearly unplayable in M13 but a powerhouse in M14) but I think it's even better than it looked on the spoiler, Triplicate Spirits is maybe the best common in the set, and that + Raise the Alarm gives you plenty of Convoke fodder and as mentioned here that +2/+1 instant is such a killer, as iatee mentioned you can't play around it even though you pretty much always know when they have it
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 4 August 2014 15:31 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
I'm really liking these planeswalker builds, they look like lots of fun. I'm hoping to play my own version at next FNM.
Between SCG Dallas and PTM15, I think I watched about 20 hours of mtg broadcasts this week, it was pretty crazy. I wanted to go to Dallas, but then forgot about it until like a day before and had to bail.
― odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Monday, 4 August 2014 15:58 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
if the white token deck is open, it's def the best deck in the format, I've seen / played games that weren't far from being the b/w modern tokens deck
red is also very good. infero fist, l strike, forge devils, cone, enforcers. I have found lava axe to be very playable in this format.
― iatee, Monday, 4 August 2014 16:04 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
i really wonder what prompted that decision - my first thought was 'wow you really dont want to have to reprint fetchlands' but maybe they just feel like standard is the most profitable/worthwhile format to promote? idk
it 'makes sense' if the protour is about advertising the set - born of the gods was a particularly bad set to release before a big modern event, but rarely will a set lead to new decks in the format. and standard post-release does reward the teams that have tested/brewed well.
but standard gameplay is pretty clearly not the highest level of play and that's supposed to be a big part of what a protour is
― iatee, Monday, 4 August 2014 16:11 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
I've mainboarded 2 Festerglooms just to take care of the tokens deck, only to have White Paragon come down and destroy me :(
Just paging through the spoiler it really looks like White has the best ratio of great uncommons, lots of solid bears + benefits, and Heliod's Pilgrim which can be really great, especially since it grabs Opressive Rays in a pinch. Losing Pacifism kinda sucks but you can really beat through just about anything, even Selfless Cathar can be a killer in this deck.
Blue on the other hand seems just not good, lots of overcosted flyers and some okay bounce but not much else. I've heard a number of good players say Black was the worst color in M15 but I think it's Blue. Black gets a lot of solid uncommons and I think the Rotfeaster is quite underrated.
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 4 August 2014 16:44 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
blue is not a good core color for a deck but throwing some bounce/terns/illusory angels to an otherwise good deck is v good
― iatee, Monday, 4 August 2014 16:48 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
maybe not saying much because red and white are already good but WU fliers and UR tempo/artifacts seem like p good archetypes in m15. my wins to date have been those two and GW.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 4 August 2014 17:05 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
jund will always be at the top as long as they continue to be more willing to ban 'unfair' cards than 'fair' ones
Thinking about this a bit over the past couple of days, I've realised a card I really don't like is abrupt decay - I'm not really a Johnny at all and I can see that it could be positive for Legacy as an answer to Counterbalance but in Modern it's just a silent death-knell to so many fun and interesting cards.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 8 August 2014 10:33 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
yeah there was a time not too long ago when people had to play Smother if they wanted to be able to kill tarmogoyfs and dark confidants with the same card, now they get to hit all the artifacts/enchantments that used to be blind spots too
― ciderpress, Sunday, 10 August 2014 02:47 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
the card itself doesn't seem oppressive (wasn't it mostly designed to give legacy people a break from top-locks?) it just sucks that it fits so well into the already best decks in modern
― iatee, Sunday, 10 August 2014 04:01 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
oh gravel basically said the legacy thing oops
― iatee, Sunday, 10 August 2014 04:02 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
I have been playing delver in modern w/ illusory angel it's really sweet
man i forgot that wasn't a 'real' card until m15, i get it mixed up with Illusory Demon for some reason
― ciderpress, Sunday, 10 August 2014 12:13 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
modern pro tours back already
― iatee, Sunday, 10 August 2014 22:27 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
i'm fine with them locking in standard for all large-set PTs but they should let small-set PTs be other formats at least some of the time
― ciderpress, Sunday, 10 August 2014 22:42 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
which seems to be what they're doing here so props
you guys are probably up to date on all this butRWB clan mechanic: http://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/attachments/130/837/635436027465518449.jpgUWR clan mechanic: http://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/attachments/130/914/635439531581439469.png
and the completely unsurprising tri-lands:http://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/attachments/130/915/635439535566463578.pnghttp://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/attachments/130/916/635439535594972038.png
― ciderpress, Monday, 18 August 2014 18:05 (1 week ago) Permalink
neither mechanic is particularly linear so my fears of getting a gatecrash style limited format are hopefully unfounded
― ciderpress, Monday, 18 August 2014 18:07 (1 week ago) Permalink
had not seen those. the mechanics seem pretty mild but make for interesting play decisions, which sounds good to me tbh
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 18 August 2014 18:12 (1 week ago) Permalink
Prowess seems like a rather dangerous mechanic should they push a card hard for Standard play
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 18 August 2014 18:16 (1 week ago) Permalink
i think they're supposed to be mild, much like the ravnica guild mechanics. the block has morph in it already, which is one of the weirder mechanics that exist in this game, so you can't go too hard on the other ones
i really like how raid is the rare 'attacking matters' mechanic that doesn't actually scale in effectiveness with the aggressiveness of your deck; maybe we can finally get a limited format where RW aggro isn't capable of snowballing
― ciderpress, Monday, 18 August 2014 18:20 (1 week ago) Permalink
ha yeah r/w has had quite the run hasn't it
― iatee, Monday, 18 August 2014 19:26 (1 week ago) Permalink
my favourite reimbursement claim to date, a triple whammy of sorts:
During pack 1 of this draft, on two occasions the draft froze for an extended period with 0:00 on the clock for the pick and then jumped ahead, by one pick first time and two picks second time, adding random cards to my deck. I pressed ahead anyway and got to deck building. I tried to submit and was told I could not and had to log back in. When I did, several of my cards were missing, replaced by basic lands.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 00:36 (1 week ago) Permalink
something similar happened to me once where it gave me a 70 card deck with a ton of extra basic lands but not the cards that I wasn't playing. I have no clue what happened but it was as if the submit didn't take and it just gave me the standard 80 (or whatever) card deck that's every card you drafted plus an "auto" assortment of lands, but then it took out every non-land I didn't submit. I don't even know how a glitch like that could happen.
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 01:09 (1 week ago) Permalink
new archetype discovered by draft opponent
― Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:07 (1 week ago) Permalink
that seems fine if his deck is full of like wall of mulch & hornet nest & red removal
― ciderpress, Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:33 (1 week ago) Permalink
that is fair. it did make me lol tho. and...it wasn't.
― Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:13 (1 week ago) Permalink
any thoughts on the maro bomb?
― iatee, Monday, 25 August 2014 17:06 (5 days ago) Permalink
you'll have to explain
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 25 August 2014 17:45 (5 days ago) Permalink
no more core sets, all blocks will be 2 sets
― iatee, Monday, 25 August 2014 17:51 (5 days ago) Permalink
wow, that's nuts. I guess that solves the "3rd set problem" huh?
what's the release schedule for these going to be? it's not gonna be every 3 months now is it?
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 25 August 2014 17:53 (5 days ago) Permalink
standard rotates spring and fall with each block, 18 month cycle instead of 24
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 25 August 2014 17:54 (5 days ago) Permalink
― iatee, Monday, 25 August 2014 17:54 (5 days ago) Permalink
that's pretty big news, but as someone who plays 95% limited I do find it rather exciting, drafting one set for an entire year is boring and I always found full-block draft to be a little awkward
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 25 August 2014 18:07 (5 days ago) Permalink
yeah I think it's pretty tricky to design in a way to ensure drafting both the first set and full block will create coherent/dynamic limited metas
it's pretty hard to ensure that full block 'does something' cause the variance between pools is always so high
― iatee, Monday, 25 August 2014 18:11 (5 days ago) Permalink
yeah this is a pretty universally positive change imo. more 'expert-level' limited formats and more standard rotations is exactly what the game needs to stay fresh in the twitch.tv era
― ciderpress, Monday, 25 August 2014 18:19 (5 days ago) Permalink
especially since people are figuring out very very quickly what the best decks are and fine-tuning them into oblivion, reducing the amount of time something like Caw-blade or Monoblack devotion would be in Standard is probably a good thing
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 25 August 2014 18:42 (5 days ago) Permalink
I'm sure it's a good change, but I suspect it will end up making it that much more expensive to keep up with standard
― odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Monday, 25 August 2014 19:00 (5 days ago) Permalink
my fuzzy logic suggests that it'll be around 10% more expensive to keep up with standard, which is worth it for a more dynamic format imo
― ciderpress, Monday, 25 August 2014 19:40 (5 days ago) Permalink
― iatee, Monday, 25 August 2014 21:10 (5 days ago) Permalink
It'll be interesting to see how that impacts Twitch. I hope it doesn't change too much. I've been loving watching live MTG tournaments every weekend on the big screen via Roku.
― odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Monday, 25 August 2014 21:50 (5 days ago) Permalink


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text: GamesBeat Booyah builds a new location app for Facebook Places in three weeks (video) August 18, 2010 9:30 PM Dean Takahashi 0 Keith Lee, chief executive of location-based game company Booyah, said today that his team built its new Facebook Places location app — InCrowd — in just three weeks. The app lets users interact with friends and share posts in real-time in real-world locations. InCrowd is coming soon to the iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad, and it is powered by Facebook Places. Facebook chief executive Mark Zuckerberg unveiled Facebook Places to the world today at the company's press event at its headquarters in Palo Alto, Calif. Zuckerberg said the product serves three main goals: To let users share their location with friends, to see where their friends are, and to discover new places. Lee got to go up on stage and explain his company's new app, which is launching today and will build game-like features into a location-services environment. As soon as his company got its hands on Facebook's new applications programming interface (API) for Facebook Places, it immediately started working on a brand new app. Booyah makes the popular MyTown monopoly-like location-based game, which has 3.1 million users, as well as the Facebook app, Nightclub City, which has 6.5 million players. But Lee said the company decided to take advantage of Facebook Places using a brand new design rather than adapt its existing apps. With InCrowd, players can broadcast their locations of the places they love to their friends, while still adhering to Facebook's privacy settings. Players become more popular when others respond to their own actions, such as "booting them in the rear," "sending them a wink," or posting about a venue. Here's our video with Lee, on location at Facebook: GamesBeat 2014 — VentureBeat's sixth annual event on disruption in the video game market — is coming up on Sept 15-16 in San Francisco. Purchase your ticket now to save $200!


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Superprestige #3 – Hamme-Zogge
But the organisers provided me with a nice surprise as the course was different from last year's. It's quite rare that they change the course and I loved it because a new course means new angles.
It still isn't the most exciting venue in the calendar but the sunshine in the morning allowed me to take a few nice shots of the women, who were rightfully upset about having the start in an ungodly hour.[/one_half][one_half_last]The men's race was almost boring, Sven Nys time trialled to yet another win in the last 30 minutes, but Lars van der Haar and Niels Albert's battle for the second place saved the day. Nys' win means that he's won ALL Superprestige races this year, quite an impressive feat.
No captions today, unfortunately, I left my phone in Kortrijk this morning, which means an earlier than expected departure so I can make a detour to pick the phone up. Hope you enjoyed the race and don't forget, you can now order my special, exclusive cyclocross-themed Christmas cards![/one_half_last]
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Great performance for Nys this time! Unluckly, Albert missed his start and had a flat tire.
wow, an image photo
like i said yesterday, love the picture with lars
greats and see you sunday maybe


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