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Because the church is about the Gospel and not about sex. And we believe in the justification of human beings by faith alone, and not by faith and heterosexuality or whatever. You can't add to it. This is for us, in the Protestant tradition in Germany, heresy. And homosexual or heterosexual, whatsoever believes by faith alone is saved and is certainly able to be ordained in a Christian community. I will not say that a lesbian or a homosexual partnership is equal to a marriage, because a marriage is intended to father children, while these partnerships are not intentionally directed to adopt children. But I have no problems in blessing such a partnership. Why should I not bless a partnership between human beings? And homosexuality is neither a sin nor a crime. To be short-sighted, as I am, is neither a sin nor a crime. So I don't see the schism or the heat of the debate on it. I know how much this is destroying churches in this country, but I don't know why this is more important than the question of war and peace, for example. Jürgen Moltmann ☀
lgbt equality
Growing up gay, you are constantly told—implicitly and explicitly—that you are weird, weak, and wrong. This is true even in my generation, which is undoubtedly the most progressive in American history on gay issues. Debates are held on the national level about whether you are fit to be a pro athlete, or a Boy Scout, or a parent. Politicians fight hard for the right of a business owner to turn you away. The word faggot, a word that says you are pathetic and contemptible, is used as an all-purpose insult. We're getting better, in all these areas. But to be gay is still to be kept apart from the institutions of society in myriad ways. And that, at least for me, is what the same-sex marriage fight is about. Forget the tax benefits and the visitation rights, forget the legal recognition of a committed relationship, forget even the right to publicly acknowledge the love one has for another person. The fight for gay marriage is a fight to be recognized as a normal member of society. A Reader's Case for Punishing Gay-Marriage Opponents ☀
…he gave material support to a campaign whose central strategy was to dishonestly and maliciously promote the idea that LGBT people living their lives openly and as full citizens constituted nothing less than a clear and present danger to the welfare of children. (See Mark Stern for a depressing reminder of that profoundly odious and illiberal campaign). If he doesn't share the views advocated in those ads, but merely thought they were a useful means to an end, that doesn't do him any favors. It's very easy to be optimistic about LGBT rights in the current environment, and I am indeed optimistic that in the short and medium term, they are going to lose. But in the long run, rollback is not impossible. And from Russia to Uganda to Nigeria, we see this belief—that LGBT rights and freedoms pose a threat to the well-being of children—seems to be, if not a necessary or sufficient ingredient for rollback, certainly a feature that promotes it. As long as the believe Eich was promoting is widespread, the rights of LGBT people, even when achieved, will not be secure. The toxic nature of the message he paid to promote shouldn't be lost in the shorthand of how we discuss this. Further thoughts on Eich's resignation ☀
…opposing equal rights on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity should no longer be an acceptable position in civilized society, just as opposing equal rights for people according to the color of their skin is no longer an acceptable position. Anyone who opposes gay marriage, or who opposed it in the past and does not repent, doesn't deserve to sit at the grown-up table any more. Gay marriage is no longer an issue where reasonable people can agree to disagree. Opposing gay marriage is no longer an acceptable position ☀
What if? ☀
No one on that side is recognizing that "What gives you the right to push your morality on others?" is exactly aimed at pushing their morality on others. It seems strange to me that the hateful speech of "You're just a homophobic hater!" is never recognized by those protesting what they see as hate. No one protesting those who hold that homosexual behavior is a sin is asking whether or not homosexual behavior is a sin or not. That question is irrelevant, apparently.
I would suggest that the question is central … and not trivial. Consider the facts. Historically, the entire history of the Church has been to hold this particular behavior as clearly biblical sin. The only point of deviation is the last 50 years. Scripturally, every biblical reference to homosexual behavior is negative, calling it sin or worse (like "abomination"). No biblical reference paints the behavior in any positive light. Worse, Paul's reference links it not to mere sin, but part of a string of assurances of exclusion from the kingdom.
Already trampled over much of this ground in my missive in response to sds earlier in the week:
You're blinded by your own cultural and/or traditional accommodation. You impose upon Scripture standards of your own which are not to be found there, and you accept as binding specific rules that suit you, while completely ignoring or discarding many other Biblical proscriptions and rules that you do not like. In other words, you pick and choose, and your "affirmation of human sexuality" is more a combination of social convention and prejudice, which you support by cherry picking carefully edited portions of Scripture.
Here are a few instances of "biblical teaching" on sexual relationships that most today would deem detestable…
But since my pen is still warm, I'll tackle some of the other arguments presented that smack of theological arrogance. ;)
First off, though, living in a pluralistic, post-Christian culture, the question of what professing Christians deem as sin simply is not relevant to a growing number of people, including many that even self-tag as "Christian". Theologically conservative and/or fundamentalist Christians will have to muster some other appeal to reason than the religious argument or tradition.
Historically, the entire history of the Church has been to hold this particular behavior as clearly biblical sin.
Granted, for most of church history, this is true. But there are questions about the early church — some historians believe early Christians sanctioned same sex unions. The early church also took to heart Jesus words about not swearing oaths and a praxis of pacifism. A current that only, at least in America, is now only confined to a few church groups and denominations.
But even if it is tradition, that doesn't mean it is the correct interpretation. Like the proscription of same sex unions, until the last two centuries, slavery was justified by scripture. And not by a small minority, but most professing Christians. In fact, the Civil War was first and foremost, a battle over biblical interpretation — and once again, I implore you to read The Civil War as a Theological Crisis. The biblical literalists of the day (at least in the United States) stood in support of biblical sanction for slavery. They plucked out verses, just like today, to make their case while the abolitionist cause stressed the overall biblical narrative or the primacy of Jesus commandment to love others. It's uncanny to me how strikingly similar today's anti-marriage-equality culture warriors are to those who proclaimed the biblical right to slavery back in the 19C.
Slavery was a big deal, but we can look at other issues — usury (charging of interest, prohibited by the Church for ~1,000 years until the Age of Enlightenment), divorce (until about ~50 years ago), equality for women (again, the early church appears to have been quite different, with women in leadership, then after the Age of Church Councils, it all dissipated and a rigid patriarchy emerged that held sway until relatively recent times, and even not so for many church groups and denominations, including one of the largest, Catholics).
Scripturally, every biblical reference to homosexual behavior is negative, calling it sin or worse (like "abomination")
You're making an atrocious assumption that the word ἀρσενοκοῖται (mapped to "homosexuals" in some translations [1 Cor 6:9]) is the equivalence of a modern same sex relationship. It might be. Or it might denote pederasty. The more I study about ancient Greek and Roman culture, it's hard to extrapolate out mores and place them in a modern context without being hijacked by the unwanted baggage that tags along — namely, the ugliness of misogyny and patriarchy, that permeated the fabric of society. Detractors of marriage equality will point out that Romans knew well concerning homosexual relations, and even more gruesome, cherished such affairs, but never ever enshrined the idea of same sex marriage. But the folly of that assertion is ignoring the giant elephant that's squashing the gazebo — that in a same sex union, one of the parties would have to don the role of "the woman". And that was status more unbecoming than to known for engaging in a homosexual tryst. For, the ancients (not all, no doubt, but judging from what was written), a woman was considered an incomplete man.
Paul's reference links it not to mere sin, but part of a string of assurances of exclusion from the kingdom.
Listed in that enumeration of the "unrighteous" is a host of "shalom disturbance" acts:
…nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
We're all thieves, greed-mongers, drunkards, revilers, and swindlers. Every day. If not in deed, on a particular day, or for a stretch of hours, certainly it occupies our thought patterns.
And the blood of Jesus cleanses us. :)
Adventures in Missing Jesus, Volume XXV ☀
"The defense for Fundamentalists' obsession with homosexuality is the Bible, which they claim to read literally. If this was true, they might notice the words "poor" and "poverty" appear 446 times and that "wealth" is mentioned in 1,273 verses, rarely positively. Only five or six passages discuss homosexuality, though nearly every American can recite them, hearing each one quoted so often. If Fundamentalists fought LGBTQ equality as a hobby, after fulfilling their duty to fight poverty, they might be chastised and forgiven. They've revealed, though, they will abandon the poor, to condemn not only gay men and women but anyone who tolerates them. In doing so they've denied the very faith and savior they claim to revere. Whatever religion Fundamentalism is, it isn't Christianity, and it's time to revoke that label. Categorizing homosexuality, not injustice, as the greatest evil is absurd and disturbing, but it reflects a whole moral system that contradicts the essence of Christian Scripture."
— It's Time to Stop Calling Fundamentalists 'Christians' (via azspot)
This quote (why bother reading the rest of it?) is a yawn-fest of red herring filled tripe. Pardon the mixed metaphor.
Wow, that's a wallop of a substantive rejoinder. Sullen blind dismissal with overused metaphor FTW.
Volume of verses is hardly the primary indication of a particular topic's importance. The word "Trinity" doesn't appear in the Bible at all, yet it's one of the core doctrines of Christianity. Jesus talked more about hall and damnation than he did about love.
First, you do realize that there are a lot of Christian groups and denominations that hold to nontrinitarianism. I don't personally subscribe to such a view, but I'm not going cast them out of the Jesus fold. Furthermore, many, perhaps most, Christians have little or no understanding of the doctrine of the Trinity. And they couldn't care less.. Myself, I struggle with all the tumult over the fine details of trinitarian aspects, like the perichoresis or why the schism erupting rancor over the Filiolique clause. But the words (and deeds) of Jesus on loving your neighbor, loving your enemies, is a constant drumbeat in the gospel of Jesus.
Second, flat out, Jesus did not talk "more about hall and damnation than he did about love". If we want to get technical, he really didn't really speak of "hell" as it is theologically constructed by contemporary fundamentalists and conservative Christians — allusions to Hades or Gehenna are translated to "hell", and while some Christians equate these words to a state of eternal conscious torment, there are other theological streams that hold to a different scripture backed interpretation. But even if we grant those verses, there still are no more than a dozen or so in the four gospels. In Paul's letters, Gehenna or "hell" is never used, though "Hades" is referenced a few times (but translators believe "death" or "grave" is a more appropriate term). But that's being generous, and equating every admonition from Jesus on justice and judgment as an exhortation on hell is a twisted way of viewing "good news".
But I only see a couple of times where Jesus talks about hell — in Matthew 25 and the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. In both, the rich (or the goats) are judged for neglecting the poor, the hungry, the sick, the imprisoned, etc..
People with a retributive spirit tend to see judgment through the perspective of punishment. But "judgment" may not be as reciprocity minded, tit for tat inclined fallen human worldly sensibility confines it, but more so in the vein of destruction of evil side of which humankind chooses to elevate and that God chooses to kill, not the person. We can go back and forth ad nauseam on whether it is punishment, annihilation, or cleansing of evil — as there is scriptural support for all these views.
That said, Jesus was pretty clear about his mission:
God's Spirit is on me;
he's chosen me to preach the Message of good news to the poor,
Sent me to announce pardon to prisoners and
recovery of sight to the blind,
To set the burdened and battered free,
to announce, "This is God's year to act!"
Later, Jesus response to disciples of John the Baptist, that inquire if Jesus truly is "the one" they've been expecting:
The blind see,
The lame walk,
Lepers are cleansed,
The deaf hear,
The dead are raised,
The wretched of the earth
have God's salvation hospitality extended to them.
Sounds like a message of love to me, not one of hell and damnation.
Those are just the highlights, but the words (and actions) of Jesus throughout the gospels are replete with love — are you going to tell me that the Sermon on the Mount is about hell and damnation, and not about loving your neighbor (and enemy)?
However, on the other hand, I will grant, that in some respects, simply tallying up scripture verses doesn't represent the totality of the biblical scorecard ;) That some matters go to the root, are more fundamental and leave other parts of scripture sublated. Here's Jesus again:
When the Pharisees heard that Jesus had left the Sadducees speechless, they met together. One of them, a legal expert, tested him. "Teacher, what is the greatest commandment in the Law?"
He replied, "You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your being, and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You must love your neighbor as you love yourself. All the Law and the Prophets depend on these two commands."
Love never fails. …the greatest of these is love.
Now, finally, we've arrived at the crux of the displeasure (honestly, while the author of the original article strikes some good points, I believe it's above his pay grade to be kicking out those with theology he finds distasteful) — outrage over protest in treating LGBT people as full fledged brothers and sisters in Christ.
Also, Christian affirmation of human sexuality as defined by Scripture and the created order implies nothing about how they will treat homosexuals or the poor. What a jumble of polemical nonsense.
You're blinded by your own cultural and/or traditional accommodation. You impose upon Scripture standards of your own which are not to be found there, and you accept as binding specific rules that suit you, while completely ignoring or discarding many other Biblical proscriptions and rules that you do not like. In other words, you pick and choose, and your "affirmation of human sexuality" is more a combination of social convention and prejudice, which you support by cherry picking carefully edited portions of Scripture.
Here are a few instances of "biblical teaching" on sexual relationships that most today would deem detestable:
- no ban on men having multiple wives, though it's recommended that bishops should have only one wife [1 Tim 3:2]
- David and Solomon and many other patriarchs had many wives, and are never criticized for it
- concubines permitted, along with stoning to death for adultery [Deut 22]
- death penalty is instructed for homosexual relations [Lev 18]
- death penalty for adultery [Deut 22]
- death penalty for being disobedient to your parents [Deut 21]
- death penalty for sexual relations with one of your father's wives (shouldn't that be covered under "being disobedient to your parents" already :)) [Lev 18]
- marriage to your dead brother's wife is under certain circumstances compulsory [Deut 25]
The point is not to descend into absurdity but to illustrate how we have reinterpreted Scripture with new social situations.
I believe monogamy is justified on the basis that it grants for full mutual respect, loyalty, trust between covenantal entrants, and preserves the security of children. These are important Bible themes, but just like the Trinity, not actually spelled out verbatim in the Bible itself, and it needs to be worked out in just the same fashion. That Jesus teaching on universal respect, compassion, love, and justice be applied.
We really don't need to debate the issue of the Scriptures and same sex marriage at all, given that we recognize all the many Scriptural moral rules we have rejected. Because the reason we rejected them is that they conflict with these great fundamental Biblical moral principles:
- Unrestricted love of neighbor — we should treat all humankind with the same concern that we treat ourselves.
- Unrestricted compassion — we must always have in mind the ultimate good of others, even when we are compelled to restrain or punish.
- Freedom from law to walk in the Spirit — all written laws should be tested that they do indeed encourage relationships of trust, loyalty, honesty, and friendship. Christ is the end of the law. [Rom 10:4]
The tragedy of fundamentalism is that it is so utterly unbiblical. It insists on the literal truth of a few selected passages, neglecting or twisting the interpretation of many others. A truly Bible-based faith would see that fallibility of the human understanding of divine revelation and the many different human perspectives on divine revelation, even as it corrects that understanding and moves us on to new imaginative visions of the divine. What the Bible teaches, at least to Christians, is that we should take responsibility for our own moral decisions, always being motivated by the basic Christian principles of the self-giving, agapistic love and thew new and joyous life of freedom that is to be found in Christ Jesus. That is Biblical morality, and we should never try to disguise it by hiding behind a few written rules that often show the limitations of past moral perceptions that the Spirit calls us to leave behind.
Why should people who believe these things about gay people get to escape responsibility for the judgment that's an inherent part of subscribing to such beliefs by muttering benign platitudes about respecting everyone? Let's call a spade a spade, with a reminder and challenge to those who believe homosexuality is a moral wrong: We gay people carry around deep-seated feelings of desire for members of our own sex; we love and desire this way on a daily basis; many of us make the choice—which we find morally acceptable—to express our feelings with same-sex sexual behavior routinely. All this forms a deep part of who we are. Do you still respect us? If so, consider re-examining your moral compass; if not, please stop saying you respect us (much less everyone), and take responsibility for what you really believe. Should you respect gay people if you find homosexuality immoral? ☀
If we assume that Christian theology is grounded on love and compassion, this propagandist point of view is fundamentally anti-Christian. The Bible does not provide a right to vilify LGBT people. When one injects the Bible into political conversations about gay rights, rational debate ends. The conversation shifts to an intractable argument over one's religious beliefs and away from a productive one about the political issue.
Using the Bible as a propaganda tool is the anti-gay lobby's last-ditch attempt to win a losing battle. If you're arguing for equality, you're arguing against the Bible. If the Bible says LGBT people are sinful abominations, then they don't deserve respect, dignity and equal treatment under the law. They deserve to be punished.
The word "homosexuality," which didn't exist in ancient languages, entered into the Bible in 1946. It was an offshoot of a political debate brewing in the capital. At the time, Republicans were pushing the Truman administration to take a hard-line against LGBT federal employees, workers they believed posed a national security and communist threat to the government.
Truman quietly fired some of these workers so as to avoid a bigger political problem, but that wasn't enough to mollify anti-gay activists. When meetings about revising the Standard Bible took place in 1946, some saw it as a political opportunity to use the Bible to mobilize public opinion in favor of homophobia. They pushed the revision committee to insert the word "homosexuality," and thus scriptural support for their cause came to be.
The deeper question in the debate over religious liberty raises is whether sexual orientation and gender identity should be classified and protected in the same way race is. No one today makes the argument that a for-profit employer should be able to deny services to blacks or Asians; the public consensus has become that racial discrimination deserves no place in society. It is religious conservatives' great fear that moral opposition to homosexuality and same-sex unions will assume the same status. "Religious Liberty": The Next Big Front in the Culture Wars ☀
We don't live by the Old Testament. The New Testament is talking about something we would all still be against. The Bible is not talking about the same thing that we are debating, it didn't exist. To drag our 'homosexuality' into the pages of the Bible is anachronistic (out of time sequence).
I'm not going to "boycott" Chick Fil A but I'm certainly not willing to give my business to a sham operation that tries to wear a mask of Christianity. There is nothing about Chick Fil A that makes it any different than McDonalds or Burger King; it is a company like any other. Yet when it claims to be "Christian" that's when I ask my questions. Really it doesn't matter, there are plenty of Americans wed more to some vision of their country and their civic religion rather than the meek Jesus of Nazareth. The Civic Religion of America is a whore that drinks shed blood until drunk and bloated. One day it will be tossed off and trampled by the Beast it rides. May all gays be not misled by this moralism, but come and take up a yoke with King Jesus for He brings life. He brings fulfillment and peace and in this shambling mass called Church, of apostate and true, find a seat and sit under the Master's feet. Chick Fil A and the Delusion of a Nation ☀
I have a friend who almost gave up not only on Christianity, but on life. On precisely the "issue" at the heart of the Chick-fil-A Wars, my friend reached a dead end in the conventional streams of fragmented modern Christianity. Because he was raised by conservative missionaries in Africa, my friend knew something was wrong when he felt himself attracted to other boys. As an undergraduate at an evangelical school, he went through programs and asked for prayer to be delivered from his homosexuality. But nothing worked. He was gay, and he knew that meant he was not welcome in the church that raised him.
Like so many people who are marginalized by the church, my friend found a sense of belonging with others who were like him. He left the church behind and set out to make a life for himself in the gay community. This was comforting for a while. He met gay Christians who were members of affirming churches. But my friend says he couldn't find anyone who was able to explain to him why his life still felt meaningless. Even when he got what he wanted, something was still missing. With no other options on the horizon, my friend despaired. Outside a bar in the middle of the night, he lay down on a sidewalk and hoped to die.
But he didn't. Almost by accident, he stumbled into a little Christian community where he met people whose faith seemed different. They were trying to live their whole lives by the Sermon on the Mount. They served alongside the poor and tried to love one another. They worshiped God with enthusiasm, but their worship wasn't just a service on Sunday morning. It was their life together, day in and day out.
Maybe this was the answer, my friend thought to himself. Maybe this kind of life together, living the way Jesus taught, was what he was made for. He was experiencing a personal awakening of hope, but he was cautious: what would they think about his homosexuality? Asking for a private meeting, he put the question to a leader in the community. The response: "I don't know what all that will mean for our journey together. But I will say this: you are a gift, and we want to welcome you as one."
Twenty years later, my friend is a leader in that same little community. He says God and the people there have saved his life. Of course, his is only one life in the context of one small community. His story does not present an "answer" to the debate that will no doubt continue in these confusing times. But his life and the community that surrounds it is a sign of hope, pointing us toward a new kind of Christianity for our time. While so many of us were trying to figure out the right position on an issue, a community of imperfect people had the grace to welcome another imperfect brother as a gift. In doing so, they not only saved his life. They saved their own, becoming a people that shines with the life that is really life.
In Jesus' day, the religious lawyers used to meals to pronounce moral judgment on their neighbors. They ate with those they deemed to be keepers of Moses' law and shunned those they considered to be sinners. Tax collectors, shepherds, adulterers, drunks were all considered to be unworthy dining company. To eat with the unrighteous was to endorse their behavior.
So forgive me if the boycotts and the "Appreciation Day" both evoke déjà vu. We're using Chick-Fil-A to draw clear lines over who our tribes are. We're discovering which people share our views of family and politics. We're discovering who the Sinners are, who we'd rather not break bread with. Truthfully, the wrangling whether to eat or not eat at Chick-Fil-A is not interesting or skillful. We're all falling into dusty, tribal meal rituals traceable all the way back to the Book of Genesis.
Jesus, on the other hand, found a far more interesting way to make a point with meals. He used meals to communicate his radical love for the moral misfits. The Gospels are filled with accounts of Jesus eating with Sinners: People who made careers by stealing from others, people who worked in shady occupations and people who even ignored God's rules about the use of their sexual organs. He ate with them all. By doing so he communicated that a Heavenly King wanted to extend his protection and Lordship to these people, knowing full well who they were.
Eating with the moral misfits also communicated that Jesus enjoyed them. He loved their smiles, their ideas, jokes, and dreams. He was for them.
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Pilsener - Kaiserdom Privatbrauerei Bamberg
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4/5 rDev +27.4%
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01-14-2013 11:53:02 | More by
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05-01-2014 00:25:17 | More by brutalist
4/5 rDev +27.4%
11-25-2012 19:41:02 | More by Heronn
3.98/5 rDev +26.8%
If I were to guess, I'd bet I haven't had this beer since my last trip to Bamberg. With all the Bamberg talk in the Germany forums, had to grab a bottle when I saw it.
.5l brown bottle with odd coding on the label, notches at numerals 4, 8, and 16.
A -- Pours clear, pale gold -- a shade darker than straw, with a white, meringue head that lasts long and leaves great lacing.
S -- Spicy hops with light DMS and mild malts back.
T -- Bready malts up front with lightly spicy hops following, blending into a light citrus character in the finish. Aftertaste is spicy, bitter hops.
M -- Mouthfeel is soft and smooth with a light body and crisp finish.
O -- Other than the nose being somewhat light, this is just what I'd expect in a German Pils. Crisper and more bitter than a Helles, smooth and refreshing in flavor and body. A great, non-smoky beer from Bamberg.
06-25-2013 21:19:18 | More by steveh
3.75/5 rDev +19.4%
Standard pour produces a *very* pale golden colored beer, with a uniform white head of medium duration and with nice lacing. Sharp noble hops offset by alternately tangy/biscuity malt on the nose. Quite lively on the palate, with brisk, cleansing carbonation straightaway, and almost no middle to this, straight to the dry finish it seems. Quite dry, actually, with just a touch of sweet pale malt, and slightly more than a thin body. Hops are crisp, dry, and almost evasive, but they are definitely there, working away in the background and lingering quite nicely. I've sampled this beer several times this summer and it has definitely grown on me. When served rather cold this one makes for an excellent summer heat-beater, and a beer that Id love to pair with some spicy Thai (the Tom Yum ramen Im cooking dont count!) or a little bit of over the top habanero action. Seems a bit soft on the palate despite the ample carbonation and style-perfect bitterness, and I'm guessing the water is artesian but treated a bit at the brewery. I like this . . . perhaps a bit more refined than Bitburger, but definitely on par with several of my favorite Pilseners from Germany and Austria (e.g. Jever, Spaten, Stiegl)
330 ml twist-off, marked for Australian distribution and Best By 5, 2007
08-04-2006 21:57:33 | More by Chaz
3.73/5 rDev +18.8%
On-tap at the Rake into a pint glass.
A: Super-carbonated, clear yellow body with its huge column of bubbles supporting a creamy, rocky white head. Looks a bit too fizzy for me, but I guess it fits the style. Fizzy yellow beer.
S: Light and crisp, with dry, chalky malt, herbal hops, and plenty of sulfury yeast. Smells like a standard, flavorful pils - let's hope the sun doesn't come out and turn it into pure skunk.
T: Sharp at first, with hops, yeast, and minerality. The malt comes in to lend a softer, more balanced finish. Pretty good.
M: Light body with moderate, crisp carbonation. Just fine.
O: Solid, middle-of-the-road Pils. It's not a style that I often seek out, and I won't be going out of my way for more Kaiserdom, but for what it is you can do a lot worse.
06-19-2011 16:39:20 | More by woosterbill
3.6/5 rDev +14.6%
Picked up a .5L bottle at Euro Market. Impressive, despite the brown glass, this lager is still skunked. After a good 15 minutes or so, the aroma cleared up to reveal a standard lightly toasted white bread character with a hint of spicy hops. Those hops come out more in the peppery, dry finish, while the barley is hardly noticeable. It's a shame this beer has been mishandled, otherwise it's a refreshing hoppy lager worthy of a good summer session.
04-15-2012 22:42:50 | More by tempest
3.6/5 rDev +14.6%
....and I didn't even think Kaiserdom was sold in the US. See, I learned something today. Out of the 500 ml format, on to the beer:
Cascades of bubbles rise throughout the beer, which is a ligter golden color with a frothy inch thick head. Rings of lace around the glass and great head retention justifies a bump in the score. It has a reasonable aroma. It's clean, somewhat hoppy, has a little grassiness and hay to it.
Light, crisp, and clean as expected. It's also more bitter than I thought it would be. It is refreshing and easy to drink, though the flavor is one dimensional. The hops provide much of the flavor in the form of grass. Maybe some floral notes as well. Some lingering bitterness in the aftertaste.
A middle of the pack German pilsner. That isn't a completely bad thing, as there are some good German pilsners out on the market. The bottle seems relatively fresh, so at least it has that going for it.
06-11-2012 22:19:18 | More by DoubleJ
3.56/5 rDev +13.4%
Poured into a beer jar from a can. Best by date: 1/2015
Appearance-straw color; yellowish and light gold; poured a 1-finger head that turned into a white bubbly surface; a few lines of lace down the sides; carbonation present. Could see some very small floaties, perhaps the beer was not filtered, which is a good thing. I'm positive my glass was clean so I don't think the floaties were from my glass.
Smell-grains; metallic malt; grassy notes; a very slight herbal hop presence, but not much; peppers and light spice. Smelled like a pils.
Taste-Sweet malt going in; dry, slightly bitter, and peppery aftertaste. Grains and barley malt in the front and backend. Fairly balanced. It reminded of a Czech pils style because of the peppery/grassy Saaz hop flavor in the aftertaste. I enjoyed it.
Mouthfeel-on the light bodied side; fairly smooth and crisp; carbonation on the medium side. Refreshing.
Overall, I really thought it was a solid good. I have tried Kaiserdom's other offerings, which are also pretty good, and this one is pretty decent too. Is it great, no. Drinkable, yes highly. In fact, I could drink a few of these, no problem. It beats drinking the ubiquitous big 3 Chinese beers: Tsingtao, Yanjing, and Harbin beer up here in Northeast China. It is good to know Kaiserdom exports its beers to an obscure market such as this one in North China. Cheers!
03-11-2014 11:11:06 | More by Jsteez
3.55/5 rDev +13.1%
Kaiserdom Privatbrauerei Bamberg
Style: German Pilsener
LOOK: Pint sized bottle. Pours a clear straw yellow with fine clarity and lacing foam down the glass. Carbonation bubbles rising quickly to the surface, looks like a standard pils.
SMELL: Bready, biscuity malt profile, a touch of butter, and grassy, noble hops.
TASTE: Clean malt flavor up front with more biscuit, buttered bread and a faint sweetness. Grassy, tea like herbal hops emerge and provide a slight spiciness. Crackery, mildly bitter, easy drinking pilsener.
FEEL: Light bodied, spot on carbonation, finishes more or less clean.
OVERALL: A true pilsener from Germany, easy drinking, and pretty much standard in every way.
07-22-2012 21:58:59 | More by Stinkypuss
3.53/5 rDev +12.4%
Appearance - 3.0
Poured one finger of white head over a very pale gold body that looks highly carbonated. The head steadily reduced to a thin, patchy layer.
Smell - 3.5
Definite skunked aroma upon opening that reduced with time, but never disappeared. Smells quite sweet and fresh, biscuity malt, grains, light grassy hops.
Taste - 3.5
A pretty typical German pilsener - refreshing, crisp and mild in flavour. Slight malt sweetness upfront, a little toffee, grassy hops, and a dry, cracker-like finish.
Mouthfeel - 3.0
Feels light in the mouth, moderately carbonated. Goes down smoothly, although over-dryness is not entirely pleasant.
Drinkability - 4.0
Crisp, refreshing, 4.8%ABV, no off flavours, has all the makings of an easy session beer. Not hugely interesting though.
This is a pretty typical, slightly above average German lager. Clearly better (and actually cheaper) than most of the major euro lagers, but falling short of the Weihenstephaner offerings. Because this comes in screw caps, and is cheap to buy, I would definitely choose it if I were looking for a session beer for a night when I don't want to think about what I am drinking. Perhaps not quite as good as their lager, but still highly drinkable.
12-12-2007 08:43:10 | More by LittleCreature
3.5/5 rDev +11.5%
07-08-2014 15:49:31 | More by GClarkage
3.5/5 rDev +11.5%
11-01-2013 01:14:55 | More by brandonld23
3.4/5 rDev +8.3%
Pours a clear, transparent straw color. White fluffy head slowly dissipates. Some lacing, more than I expected.
Smells of hops and grass, faint sweet notes in the background. Standard pils.
Tastes of hops, some pine cone hints, a hint of sweetness in the middle, and a mild bitter hops finish. A little hop after taste.
Mouthfeel is crisp and light, with some carbonation. A little thin, but a very easy drinking beer.
Certainly a nice example of the style. I would have another.
01-16-2012 01:26:33 | More by fsimcox
3.39/5 rDev +8%
Swingtop brown bottle with a green label and a Bayerisches cap. Recent takeover?
A completely clear golden color, Kaiserdom develops a craggy little white head that manages pretty good retention at about half a finger and is sticky enough to leave a fair amount of lacing in small patches and plenty of spotting.
Saaz hops don't hold back in this pils. It's plenty grassy and herbal with lots of the skunky aroma, but not in an unpleasant way. It just seems natural and something like standard for the style, though without the heft American brewers have put to it. The flavor's much the same, though I get a little more power from the nose and could use more hops for the stronger, more heavily-hopped German style.
Certainly light and crisp, the body is no surprise. It's not as clean as it could be, which isn't as easy as it seems. It does get a little grainy, but fits the style otherwise.
04-17-2013 15:44:44 | More by Brenden
3.35/5 rDev +6.7%
Found this recently at a Russian grocery here in town. Poured into 10oz Pilsener glass. Poured a bright, clear, clean light golden yellow color with less than 1/4 inch of white head that had moderate retention and low lacing.
The aroma was good, about what you'd expect from a nice Pils, grain, some gentle hops, a touch of yeast. the beer also had a slight bit of underlying sweetness in the nose. On the tongue, the beer had a lot of the same features, and was typically crisp. There was just a small touch of skunk in the middle of the tongue, but not enough to ruin the rest of the flavors.
The body was pretty average as well, crisp and mostly clean, with just a bit of stickiness at the finish. Drinkability was good, you could pour a couple of these down with no trouble. Overall, a nice, but typical, take on the style. Worth the $2 i paid for it, and worth grabbing if you see it, but I probably wouldn't seek it out.
06-23-2012 18:50:55 | More by beertunes
3.35/5 rDev +6.7%
Appearance - Pours a clear, pale golden color with an inch thick, soapy looking head that dissipates quickly. Has a thin lacing.
Smell - Very malty, grains, and buttery biscuits.
Taste - Identical to the smell.. Very sweet and malty with grains, very bready, buttery, and has spicy herbal hops. Leaves a spicy bitterness on your tongue in the aftertaste.
Mouthfeel - Medium bodied with high carbonation.
Overall - Much spicier than the pilseners I'm used to.. I'm guessing they use different hops than the average. It's good, but I wouldn't want to drink this all night.
09-04-2012 03:29:08 | More by jsisko01
3.33/5 rDev +6.1%
Pleasingly pale light gold and retaining a head if pour from on hogh, it looks appealing in my glass.
Smell is weak, being watery and a hint of that sweet European malt that so characterises so many beers.
It is not overpacked with flavour , it is more of a sensation or feel in the mouth.It is not tinny or sweet more effervescent and bitter It feels good but doesnt taste like much.
The experience is pleasant I would characterise this as a good summer luncheon beer , not for large volume consumption but as a quick cleanser.
02-25-2006 22:47:56 | More by jarmby1711
3.3/5 rDev +5.1%
Random cooler find recently. Poured the .5l bottle into a mug with the same volume. Pours a pale gold with racing streams of champagne carbonation. White foam with creamy surface texture, good retention with a dripping halo of lace.
Skunky out of the bottle at first, but pleasantly grassy and herbal as it warms. Lightly floral from the noble hops, with signature dry cracker notes from the pils malt.
Taste is clean and grainy, some mild bitterness and a light metallic note. Pleasant mild bitterness in the aftertaste. Light, well carbed, and relatively clean. Overall ok, but pretty middle of the road. Worth trying but I'll stick with my favorites.
06-23-2012 19:25:58 | More by emerge077
South Carolina
3.3/5 rDev +5.1%
Poured from the monster 1 liter can into a pint glass.
A: The beer is a solid gold color with plenty of carbonation inside. Head was pure white and fluffy, sticking around for a bit before dying down.
S: Really clean aroma with hints of bead and some herbal hop in there. Subtle but good.
T: Again, super clean with a bready sort of backbone and some spice in the middle. Very refreshing. A grassy hint in the middle and solid grain notes. Pretty smooth and nice.
Overall a pretty good beer. Very sessionable. The beer is super easy drinking and great for kicking back with. The size really complements the taste haha.
11-18-2013 14:08:50 | More by BucBasil
West Virginia
3.25/5 rDev +3.5%
Labeled a pilsener, but more in line with a generic Euro pils, brown bottle 500ml size the Kaiserdom label boasting anno 1718. I'm sure this is mass produced beer at this point. Pours a very pale yellow color into my Spaten glass, forms a brillian white head with fine speckled lacing. Aroma borders between a hint of skunkiness with some strange metallic notes as well, a bit of faint pale biscuit malts and off putting grain character. Flavors are pretty clean and unoffensive a bit of lively sweetness rolls in with some pale biscuit malt sweetness and lingering herbal earthy hops, skunk free on the palate. Mouthfeel is light bordering watery with enough sweetness to create a crisp beer drinking experience. Carbonation is mellow on the palate, a very limited scheme as far as hop bitterness goes. Overall a decent mass produced Euro pils from Germany, the label states Bavaria in this case (Bamberg).
04-22-2012 16:25:23 | More by WVbeergeek
3.25/5 rDev +3.5%
06-21-2012 03:34:15 | More by rjpetrizzo
3.25/5 rDev +3.5%
Poured from a 50cl can into a pint glass.
A - Pale golden colour, slight head.
S - Wheat, grass, malt and just a touch of honey.
T - Mild, minimal carbonation. Initial sourness on the tongue which subsides to something sweeter and more honey-like. Tastes a bit like a poor mans Warsteiner.
M - Surprisingly lively mouthfeel. Soothing at the back of the mouth.
D - Light and refreshing but could do with some more flavour!!
07-23-2010 10:30:57 | More by xylophonica
3.25/5 rDev +3.5%
04-24-2013 05:40:51 | More by RaphaelSC
New York
3.18/5 rDev +1.3%
A: The beer is crystal clear light golden yellow in color and has a moderate amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a half finger high dense white head that died down, consistently leaving a thin head covering the surface and a coating of bubbles down the sides of the glass.
S: There are light aromas of grassy hops in the nose.
T: The taste has a light to moderate amount of bitterness, but this prominently stands out in front of notes of grassy hops and slight hints of malts.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied and very clean on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation. The finish is very clean and leaves your mouth a bit dry, longing for another sip.
O: I enjoyed this pilsner because it's rather light-bodied and easy to drink but the bitterness and clean mouthfeel really take center stage. However, it would have been nicer to have some more malty flavors in the taste.
07-19-2012 23:06:45 | More by metter98
Pilsener from Kaiserdom Privatbrauerei Bamberg
74 out of 100 based on 48 ratings.

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great piece and yes I think everyone in Europe resent bailing out geese and they do not have a choice.
a few stats:
40% of the work force is employed by the government. they are refusing to lay anyone off or increasing the tax and the deficit reaching 15% of GDP in 2009 and in 2010 11% (thanks to in crease taxes). well today they might be broke unless the EU and the IMF bail them out but all of that come with conditions.
Germany, France need the euro and for the euro to survive it needs Geese Spain Portugal and Italy to be in it.
the future will be interesting for sure and I am thinking that some major changes will be happening this week or next.
ha that could be true well I don't blame him for that, maybe a few other issues but let not get political ;) anyways I think the euro zone issue are deep and very problematic.


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back pain from squatting
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I started doing legs pretty hardcore like 2 months ago and now I've been having some back pain which I can almost positively attribute to barbell squats. I am 6'2" about 200 lbs 14% bf fyi. I do my squats on the smith machine bc I do not have a spotter that I trust. I wonder if the pain is bc my posture may be restricted on the smith machine. The pain only comes after heavier sets( I'm worried about my knees so I max at 275lbs for 8 reps on my last set). Any advice or a different outlook on this is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I personally don't like the smith machine for squats, especially if you use those "manta ray" things that rest the bar on the top of your traps.
I would definitely say to give yourself some time to rest and heal before doing any other squatting, otherwise you may risk further injury. If the pain persists, see a doctor. hey thats why (I hope) you have health insurance!
Squatting is a great exercise, and I think it takes a while to get your form down using free weights. But start slow, and work your way up. If you are afraid of not having a spotter, then use the power rack to squat. put the pins at the top to hold the barbell, and place the safety bars further down--right below where the barbell reaches at the bottom of your squat.
Some other advice: squat using flat soled shoes (converse or squatting shoes). also the best way to gauge how good or poor your form is is to take a video of you squatting and analyze it later. do a search on knees and squatting, AFAIK they get stronger from doing ATG squats.
Good luck, and feel better!
From having a bad lower back in the past. do your deadlifts, do your squats...try hyper-extentions. also stiff leg deads
To add what everyone else said, doing squats on a smith machine or something similar does not mimic the natural movement your body follows when squating. What i'm getting at is that the smith machine may be forcing you to go in a certain direction that may not agree with your natural range of movement, which can put stress on certain areas like your lower back. Also don't neglect your core as it is vital in stabilization while squatting.
Just squat with no spotter, you obviously won't be able to push yourself as much, but I get pretty damn close when I train with no spot.
every once in a while i get killer lower back pumps, last time being from using waxy maize.. try doing 1 legged squats with the smith machine, its hard and you need decent endurance but it kills the quads.
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try box squatting with a moderate weight until your form becomes textbook. also, improve your deadlift; if your prs are moving up in the dead, i guarantee your squat poundages will go up as well.
as others have hinted...using the smith machine imho is a no no. it helps take your stabilizers out of the lift, which may be why you injured yourself.
build an iron-clad posterior chain, and life in the gym will be a little easier.
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