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Gun Violence Reduction Forum Turns into Raucous Debate
Original post made by Jim Neal on Feb 8, 2014
The Council chamber was filled to capacity, with many crowded into the side aisles standing. My best guess is that there were 120 to 150 people, roughly divided 60% to 40% supporters to opponents respectivel, but those are only estimates on my part.
The session started with a few speakers talking about their personal experiences with having lost loved ones in various shooting incidents, but after about 20 minutes or so when it became clear to those with opposing viewpoints that this was not going to be a dialogue, but primarily a lecture on enacting more restrictive gun laws, they began to yell out comments and demand that their voices also be heard.
Although I am a supporter of the Second Amendment, I was taken aback by the lack of civility. The fact is that the forum was organized and paid for by those in favor of more gun laws and they have every right to run the meeting in any way they see fit. It was not a City sponsored event and therefore does not have to follow the rules that would apply to a Council or Committee meeting.
However, I was also dismayed that the hosts did not choose to engage in a more inclusive process and that some of the speakers and proponents in the audience showed outright contempt for those with opposing viewpoints.
Needless to say, both sides were extremely disrespectful and I think that both sides lost an opportunity to achieve one of the stated goals of this forum which is educating the community.
I have seen the same thing on college campi, where many speakers with viewpoints or political affiliations that are unpopular, are shouted down and not permitted to speak. To me this is unacceptable. Our Republic can only continue to thrive if the exchange of ideas continues to flow unabated.
Fortunately, things never escalated to the point of physical violence. I can understand that people on both sides are very passionate and emotional about this issue, but we need to maintain control of ourselves at all times and treat each other as we would like to be treated.
After the forum, I stayed behind to talk with people whose views were in opposition to my own and we had very pleasant conversations. While I do not think that we were able to change each other's minds, I made it very clear that I am always open to discussing any subject about matters that affect our city with anyone; and that they can feel free to contact me about their concerns and I will listen.
Jim Neal
Old Mountain View
Candidate, Mountain View City Council
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Comments (41)
on Feb 10, 2014 at 9:37 am
Jim Neal is a registered user.
Here is an update:
Over the weekend, after the meeting I ran across these stories about people that used their guns to defend themselves. These are the stories that you will not read about in most papers and will not see on the local news:
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In researching these examples, I found that most of the stories are about women and older people using guns in self defense. Given the culture of violence that we have today where criminals will kill for less than $20, it seems to me that guns are a great equalizer that give women and older people at least a chance to protect themselves.
It happens more often that you think, but it's just not popular to report those cases because they don't fit the narrative to subject law abiding citizens to even more gun restrictions.
Jim Neal
Old Mountain View
Web Link
on Feb 10, 2014 at 10:00 am
Yesterday afternoon, 2 former customers tried to rob their alleged drug dealer in Hayward (East Bay). The drug dealer opened fire, killing one and seriously wounding the other. Just think what would have happened if the drug dealer did not have easy access to guns!
on Feb 10, 2014 at 10:16 am
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@Second Amendment -- It is already illegal to deal drugs on the streets and to possess a weapon while doing so. Criminals are called criminals because they do not obey the law. There are no amount of laws that can be passed that will prevent criminals from getting weapons they should not have.
There are hundreds of stories about criminals using weapons (like AK-47s) that are already banned. What more can be done in those cases?
I too, wish that people would not use guns to murder and rob other people, but wishing cannot make it so. Instead we need to address the underlying issues behind the violence such as mental health, poverty, and the almost complete collapse of the moral fabric of our society that makes some people think they are entitled to everything simply because they exist; and that they should hate people who have more.
By your arguments, should we place stricter controls on drugs just because some people sell them illegally on the streets? Should we ban drugs?
Guns and drugs both have positive and negative uses. Instead of blaming the tools, we need to hold responsible and accountable the people who misuse them.
Jim Neal
Old Mountain View
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on Feb 10, 2014 at 11:32 am
Greg David is a registered user.
Although I did not attend, I heard reports from at least a half dozen pro-2A supporters that were there. The meeting was typical of MAIG's underhanded and deceptive approach to furthering gun control from the local level up. They quote their "reasonable" goals and tout there professor puppet with his figures that don't lie, but it clear that MAIG's ultimate goal is to eliminate personal firearms ownership. Even more deceptive on an immediate level, they rented council chambers for this sham of a "forum" to give the impression that it had support from the city. This lecture should have been held at a more appropriate venue such as the senior center.
Greg David
on Feb 10, 2014 at 3:01 pm
I wonder how many more kids will have to die before people wake up and demand reasonable regulation on gun ownership. It's silly that it's much harder to get a driver's license than it is to own a gun that can clean out a classroom full of kids in just a few minutes.
What is psychologically wrong with all the gun nuts that feel the need to have unrestricted and unregulated access to weapons of mass murder?
on Feb 10, 2014 at 8:59 pm
@More Regulation
Sounds like YOUR the psycho path nutjob
on Feb 10, 2014 at 9:35 pm
Jim Neal is a registered user.
@more regulation -- Let me be clear. I have never said that I did not want any regulations for guns. What I am saying is that we already have sufficient regulations on the books that if enforced, will minimize the access that criminals have to guns through legitimate sources.
I note that instead of engaging in a reasoned debate, you choose instead to use emotional arguments and name calling.
As far as it being easier to get a gun than a driver's license, try it some time. It may be true on the street, but getting a gun through a legal gun dealer is an ordeal.
I have also noticed that many of the school shootings were in schools that were declared "Gun Free Zones". How much did that help?
What do you define as "reasonable restrictions"? California already has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the US and many cities in other states that have very strict gun laws have some of the highest homicide rates in the US (i.e. Washington D.C. and Chicago).
I have outlined what I believe to be the underlying problems behind the violence and I believe that until those issues are addressed, the killings will continue. Preventing people from defending themselves will only exacerbate the problem.
The Boston Marathon was bombed! Aren't all bombs already illegal? Did that stop the terrorists from using them?
Jim Neal
Old Mountain View
on Feb 10, 2014 at 9:59 pm
Jim - if you want talk, I was holding the sign "Guns save lives, ask me how I know" at this event. email@example.com
on Feb 10, 2014 at 10:48 pm
Let's get this story straight...
I was there. I was positioned at the back right and repeatedly called for compliance with forums rules.
Not only was I there, I was also the person who provided Mrs. Lieber, her assistant with the brown jacket AND Mr. Spitaleri himself 5 separate opportunities to corral the forum within typical forum rules:
- No Political Signage or Campaigning by the Audience
- Speakers Speak Strictly On Topic - No Campaigning, Smearing or Attacks
- Questions Submitted After Speakers Are Done - No Statements
Mrs. Lieber was queried by me directly BEFORE the event started as to whether or not it was a forum or a debate - as she was collecting question AND comment cards before the event had even started.
Her response was that it was a forum in line with the format used by the League of Women Voters.
No sooner did she get the event started - the speakers immediately went into attack mode against guns, gun owners, the 2nd Amendment and so on.
I then proceeded to challenge her assistant in the brown jacket - informing him that if the speakers and their supporters in the audience did not conform to typical forum rules - that would be license for us 2nd Amendment supporters to:
1. Display signage
2. Comment openly
3. Challenge speakers and hostile audience members directly.
His response was to accuse me of "splitting hairs".
It was at this junction that us 2nd Amendment supporters pulled out our signs and other printed material for display. And of course we proceeded to openly comment and challenge speakers and hostile audience members from that point onward.
Only a short time after this, the lawyer lady following Mr. Donohue's presentation took the podium and literally in a methodical manner spelled out her exact plan of action for the following:
1. Outright banning of firearms businesses.
2. Outright banning of home firearms businesses.
3. Subjugation of firearms owners to registration, harassment and papers.
4. Outright banning of the only form of carry left - concealed carry.
5. Run-around of three areas specifically qualifying for state preemption.
6. n++; The "destruction of the enemy" list was almost endless.
This lady made specifically clear her intentions to destroy 2nd Amendment rights, the business and logistical avenues for the practice thereof, and the conversion into a "suspect class" - like with the Jews of Berlin 1936 - law abiding gun owners via local ordinances and further state level legislation.
Any pretense of discussing how to address violence had been dispensed with by this lady alone...
We did not allow this person to go unchallenged - and it was shortly after this that Mr. Spitaleri stepped in:
1. He accused US of being uninvited.
2. He accused US of being the party disturbing the forum.
And of course, anyone who has a complete video of the event knows exactly who I am.
Yes I am the one who challenged him directly:
Of course, if you have the video - you already know I had his undivided attention and you know his response. Utter disgust while walking away back to the side of the room.
Once again, we as individuals arrived prepared to respect a properly run forum - listen to speakers - and ask questions when they were done. This is how we typically behave - from a default position of common courtesy and respect.
Sadly, a forum it was not from the get go. That is the simple truth of the matter.
I challenge anyone reading this article to watch the full unedited video - wherever is may be available. Ask yourself at the remaining 20 minute point the following:
1. Why did Mr. Wolf as formal speaker in this "forum" refuse 3 times to answer whether or not he was a credentialed teacher with the State of California?
2. Why did Mrs. Lieber remove the exact same question in written form (question/comment card) from the pile and hand it off to someone else (Mr. Spitaleri?) before proceeding to read off the remaining questions to conclude the event?
Does someone have something to hide?
At least one curious mind want to know...
on Feb 11, 2014 at 1:14 am
I was at the meeting and I would say 60-40 ratio is a bit of a stretch in my opinion. There must have been only around 20 individuals attending that belong to the camp of hoplophobia. The massive amount of individuals remaining were all familiar faces and firearm enthusiasts like myself.
As for the measures the hoplophobes were promoting, they were absolutely moronic. Banning home FFLs? In no way would that reduce crime, make the public safer, or get the guns that criminals use off the streets. Banning home FFL's from the city would only put a neighbor out of business. Requiring I give my fingerprints when buying ammo? That does absolutely nothing, it would serve no purpose except to create a larger burden on licensed firearms dealers. Besides, I reload! That's right, I don't buy ammo from stores. I make my own ammo at home! No firearms permits? Last I checked, criminals weren't getting permits so they can carry a firearm. They just carry anyway! Another do nothing, feel good, illogical idea. Banning the possession of STANDARD capacity magazines? Ex post facto problem anyone? The list goes on and on...
Anyways, I am not going to sit by and watch these cowardly close minded individuals push these kinds of measures down the throats of members of my home town. Any free time I have now will be devoted to fighting any anti-2nd Amendment agenda happening here in Mountain View.
on Feb 11, 2014 at 4:20 pm
Anyways, I am not going to sit by and watch these cowardly close minded individuals push these kinds of measures down the throats of members of my home town. Any free time I have now will be devoted to fighting any anti-2nd Amendment agenda happening here in Mountain View.
Several Palo Altans and I stand with you in solidarity. These Anti's are sorely mistaken if they think Gun owners are a minority in this state.
on Feb 12, 2014 at 12:33 am
Jim Neal is a registered user.
@Hutch 7.62 Thanks! Your support is greatly appreciated!
I also really appreciate all the other comments here on this important issue. We need to keep the dialog going and get the facts out there, not just the emotion.
Jim Neal
Old Mountain View
on Feb 12, 2014 at 11:03 am
@Jim Neal
yes Facts are more important than emotions. Using emotions to get you're point across or to make the other side look bad is very evil and cheap shot none the less.
on Feb 12, 2014 at 12:34 pm
CNN report about white people and guns. "Shooter saw black, thought threat". Web Link
on Feb 12, 2014 at 12:44 pm
Jim Neal is a registered user.
@dunnce - Um in case you haven't noticed, I am black and I have no fear of white people or any other race of people having legal access to guns as long as they are not felons. Race baiting and saying that it has to be done "for the children" are always the first arguments of those who cannot argue based on facts.
Even if the story is true, there will always be people that do stupid things for stupid reasons and banning the object they choose to use in exhibiting their stupidity makes no sense. For example, someone uses a car to run over people and the answer is to ban all cars or place so many regulations on them that they are almost impossible to get?
Jim Neal
Old Mountain View
Web Link
on Feb 12, 2014 at 1:03 pm
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@dunnce -- Here's a link for my example:
Web Link
Jim Neal
on Feb 12, 2014 at 4:22 pm
Jim Neal,
If you want reasoned debate, then you've got it.
You said:
"What I am saying is that we already have sufficient regulations on the books that if enforced, will minimize the access that criminals have to guns through legitimate sources".
With respect, I've heard this argument before, but unfortunately it is simply a rehash of the fallacy that simply making something illegal (felons in possession of guns for example), is not sufficient in itself to make it *enforceable*. Besides the willingness for prosecutors and police to enforce the laws (which is what your statement is implying), the laws as they are written today make them difficult to enforce. In fact, the NRA gun lobby has directed a ton of money in writing laws that have prevented law enforcement from doing their job.
Now, that is my understanding of the situation regarding the "sufficient regulation" argument. Do you have some specific reasoning you would like to share?
on Feb 12, 2014 at 4:58 pm
Here's some more reasoned debate: "As far as it being easier to get a gun than a driver's license, try it some time. It may be true on the street, but getting a gun through a legal gun dealer is an ordeal."
Steps for a newbie getting a car(no knowledge or experience with driving a car):
1. Enroll in a drivers education school or self-study online to pass the written test. ($0-$100)
2. Once passing the written test, you will receive a learner's permit to allow you to practice driving.
3. Find someone to loan you a car. Or pay someone for lessons in theirs.
4. Spend many hours practicing to drive. DMV driving test requires some precision: parallel parking, backing around corner, etc that make it very challenging to pass in the first try.
5. Enroll in a school or find someone to teach you the mechanics of driving.
6. Make appointment, pay the fee and hopefully pass the surprisingly challenging DMV driving test.
7. Once you are licensed, buy a car and register it.
8. Buy and maintain mandatory insurance for it.
9. Maintain registration, smog & licenses for it.
10. Periodically, renew your drivers license. If the license is revoked or suspended, then your car is useless.
Steps for a newbie (no knowledge or experience with firearms) getting a shotgun from a "legal gun dealer":
1. Go to store and pick out gun.
2. Fill out background check form and pay a $25 application fee.
3. Wait 10 days.
4. Take a test to show you understand how to own and use one safelyHAHA JUST KIDDING! THERE IS NO SUCH REQUIREMENT!!!!
5. Come back in and pick up your gun. Don't forget ammo! Bang Bang!
So, I don't understand what the "ordeal" is, especially comparing it to getting your first car. Please elaborate?
on Feb 12, 2014 at 11:43 pm
@More Regulation
I would like you to explain why we need more Laws, if the Laws that are on the books are not being enforced. Wouldn't creating more laws be worthless when we already know Criminals in the State of California could care less about the Laws.
Oakland for example has currently had no luck in curbing any gun violence too date. They can't even control the use of illegal fireworks.
on Feb 13, 2014 at 10:32 am
Hutch: "Wouldn't creating more laws be worthless when we already know Criminals in the State of California could care less about the Laws. "
That's true. I guess since "Criminals" could care less about the "Laws", then we should just have no "Laws" at all, right? No speed limit signs. No laws against murder or assault. Because only "Criminals" disobey "Laws", so why burden all the law abiding citizens?
It's not sufficient to pass a law that says: "Felons can't have guns." There need to be laws that will support law enforcement's job in regulating the ownership of guns. California is getting better, but it's simply ridiculous that automobile ownership is tracked so much intensely, while tools of killing are not. Of course, I'm sure the NRA will (if they have not already) file appeals to any law that might reduce the profitability of the gun manufacturers, so let's see how long California can hold out.
Regarding Oakland...It's silly to to think that city-specific gun laws can have a major effect without having similar laws in neighboring areas. It's just too easy to drive half an hour away, load up, come back and fire away. Hopefully California will continue to push for more regulations, which will help, but with Nevada, Oregon, Arizona, it will only slow the pointless killings, not stop it altogether.
IMHO at least...
on Feb 13, 2014 at 10:44 am
Here are a few more things, you have conveniently missed from the gun buying process (obviously, you haven't bought a gun recently).
- if you EVER had a collision with the law, you are probably banned from executing your Constitutional right for 10 years or for life, but not from the privilege to drive
- if you ever had something more that infraction, it may take over a month for CADOJ to come back with the background check results. You don't have to wait a second if when you buy your car.
- You have to have a CADOJ approved lock safe or lock in order to pick up your gun from the store. You don't need to have your garage certified by CADOJ. You will not be arrested for not locking your car in the public place.
on Feb 13, 2014 at 12:43 pm
zzzzzz...wake up!
"- if you EVER had a collision with the law, you are probably banned from executing your Constitutional right for 10 years or for life, but not from the privilege to drive"
Oh no! A collision with the law? Kind of vague, but I suppose convicted murderers not being able to legally buy a gun is troubling to some... !!!???
"- if you ever had something more that infraction, it may take over a month for CADOJ to come back with the background check results. You don't have to wait a second if when you buy your car."
Oh no! You mean that if you are a convicted criminal, then you *might* have to wait a whole month?! Darn. I guess you'll just have to meet a craigslist seller to buy that gun so you can hold up a liquor store and pay your back rent. How terrible!!
"- You have to have a CADOJ approved lock safe or lock in order to pick up your gun from the store. You don't need to have your garage certified by CADOJ. You will not be arrested for not locking your car in the public place.
You need to show that you own a gun lock (or safe) to pick up your gun?? How burdensome!!! Here's one for $8 on Amazon: Web Link. I can see how $8 would be a MAJOR hassle.
It's really too bad that the rifle or shotgun buyer has to show the gun dealer that they have a basic understanding of firearm safety before taking the gun out of the store. Oh, right... They don't have to.
Wow. It really is just oh, so burdensome to buy a gun in California... :)
on Feb 13, 2014 at 1:10 pm
^Mouth meet foot.
You really don't get IT, do you.
on Feb 13, 2014 at 1:11 pm
You don't have to be a felon to lose your right. A simple restraining order will do that for you. Do you want to get your license suspended and car towed away due to the restraining order?
Again, you can drop your "convince murder" and "criminal" sloppy language. Simply educate yourself on the subject matter.
on Feb 13, 2014 at 1:16 pm
Speaking of the lock requirement. You have to have a recent receipt (less than 30 day old) when you pick up your gun. You miss one day and you have to buy a new one. Do you have to brink a car lock to the dealership?
on Feb 13, 2014 at 1:26 pm
Here is the revised list of the car buying process
1. Go online and read the Driver Handbook.
2. Go to DMV and pass the written test. Get your temporary driver's license immediately
3. Grab a licensed friend, buy a car, sign here, here and here, get your friend to drive the car home. Buy insurance
4. Go online, google any free book on how to drive a car. Read it
5. Learn to drive in your car.
6. Schedule a road test at DMV. Pass it. Even a teenager can do it. If you find the DMV road test difficult, you may opt to never leave your house. The world is a way more challenging. You won't survive even ten minutes in a city.
on Feb 13, 2014 at 5:18 pm
zzzzz...are you sure you are not anti-gun? I'm not anti-gun--I'm for better regulating them... but you are really making a case for outright bans!
"You don't have to be a felon to lose your right. A simple restraining order will do that for you."
So, if a wife takes out a restraining order against their husband due to domestic abuse, you would like the husband to be able to go out, buy a shotgun and shoot their family without allowing law enforcement time to investigate. Wow. That must be so inconvenient. You seem VERY concerned about slowing down access to guns for people who break laws....something you need to confess?
"Speaking of the lock requirement. You have to have a recent receipt (less than 30 day old) when you pick up your gun. You miss one day and you have to buy a new one."
Oh no! Really? How BURDENSOME! Not only do you have to first remember to buy a $10 lock, but then you have to remember to bring it with you to the gun dealer! Or even worse...you might actually have to buy one FROM the gun dealer. Yep! News Flash! Gun dealers carry gun locks!!!
"Do you have to brink a car lock to the dealership?"
What is "brink"? I guess that GED is still a long way off...
"Here is the revised list of the car buying process..blah,blah,blah"
So, your point is what? That buying a gun for the first time is STILL a lot easier than becoming a driver?! Oh, I see in your steps, you neglected to get a learners permit and are driving illegally. Be careful, if you get arrested, it might *slow* down your ability to buy an arsenal of man-killing weapons.
on Feb 13, 2014 at 7:58 pm
You don't own a gun. You know how I know? Your outline of the steps to get one is missing the written safety test. Yes you have to take a written test. Then you can answer some basic questions like "Are you a felon, are you a drug addict, do you have any restraining orders etc. If you lie and the background checks for state and/or federal fail you get a felony. Then the hands on test. You know, so you know how to check if it is loaded. Then a verbal test on different types of malfunctions and how to clear them. Then you need two forms of valid and current resident ID. Pay for it and all the other crap like the safety cert, dros fees, taxes and then wait 10 days to pick it up.
Even though it is an absolutly stupid comparison of a right to a privilege I will tell you now that the hands on drivers test no longer requires parallel parking and they don't ask you to back around a corner. Backing around a corner is pretty dangerous and if something bad happened because of it you can bet 20 ambulance chasing lawyers would be right there to help you sue the hell out of the DMV and the state.
So here is a suggestion, before you go blurting out a bunch of nonsensical drivel on any subject, LEAR SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Otherwise you make yourself out to look like an ignorant tool.
on Feb 13, 2014 at 8:39 pm
Wow Testor. Maybe you can study with zzzzzz and pass the test to get your GED someday.
This is what I wrote:
"Steps for a newbie (no knowledge or experience with firearms) getting a shotgun from a "legal gun dealer":
1. Go to store and pick out gun.
2. Fill out background check form and pay a $25 application fee.
3. Wait 10 days.
4. Take a test to show you understand how to own and use one safelyHAHA JUST KIDDING! THERE IS NO SUCH REQUIREMENT!!!!
5. Come back in and pick up your gun. Don't forget ammo! Bang Bang!"
The test that you insist is needed for guns is only required for HANDGUNS! I can't believe you don't know that. Wow! Next year a safety test will be required, but for now, you don't need one to buy a shotgun or rifle.
Maybe before you defend "gun rights", you should actually learn the difference between handguns and long guns? Wow...Unbelievable!
on Feb 14, 2014 at 7:44 pm
we need more effective laws to keep our civilization safer from the proliferation of guns. california laws are getting better and stronger. i hope that the supreme court changes under obama so the nra can stop improperly interpreting the constitution for us.
on Feb 15, 2014 at 3:01 pm
bring, not brink. It was on obvious typo, you could have figured it out.
You again, trying to misrepresent the facts. Here is a simple explanation with very little possibility for you to misinterpret it.
If someone beats somebody, that would be grounds for felony, and the guy would be arrested. A simple restraining order can be granted on a simple request to the court in a divorce procedure. You don't need to commit any crime for that. So, once again, if you are a law-abiding citizen ,who has committed no crime, but have a restraining order, why is your basic right can be revoked?
Speaking of your immature statement. You should educate yourself with the the laws in California. If you buy a gun and never carry it outside your house (open carry is prohibited, concealed carry is only if you have a permit, which you will never get in SF), it's pretty much as you buy a car an never drive it on the public street. In this case you don't need a driver's license, insurance, and registration. Read the California Vehicle Code. Educate yourself first.
on Feb 15, 2014 at 3:04 pm
California laws are not making the communities safe. Instead, those laws violate the Constitution, as ruled by 9th circuit recently.
on Feb 15, 2014 at 3:11 pm
In addition to testor's post.
The gun safety test is valid only for five years. So, let's say you want to go and buy a new car, but the last time you took DMV written and road tests six years ago? :) Right, go to DMV and re-take all the tests first. Only then you can go to a dealership. Exciting, isn't it?
on Feb 15, 2014 at 3:19 pm
I certainly would recommend you to educate yourself on the law, before you show your illiteracy to the public. Read the Penal Code sec. 26840(a)
In case you have difficulty with very basic English, I'll translate it for you:
Firearm safety certificate is required if you buy ANY gun in California
on Feb 15, 2014 at 4:25 pm
Moreregulation has a way of dodging truth, dragging on a losing argument, posting false data, and flat out lying so I will respond without debate.
Moreregulation-you are good at deceiving through text, but why were you not more vocal in a public forum? Is it that you must spend copious amounts of time crafting a fine lie in order to get your "point," across? Your argument of getting a restraining order and "going out and buying a shotgun" to kill her family WITHOUT chance to investigate is a joke. He will have waited 10 days, provided his fingerprint and all pertinent info, and would be charged with premed 1st degree murder. That is the ONLY argument you've made that even pertains to the proposed "laws" you support, and it isn't even relevant when inspected. I'm sorry, sir, but you are fighting a losing battle due to the fact that you are on the illogical side of the debate. I strongly suggest you stop hiding behind your computer, afraid of an inanimate object, and venture into the forum next time. You and your friends seemed very flustered by the fact that someone asked them to prove themselves. If you can't prove yourself, are you and your arguments even valid? I think not.
on Feb 15, 2014 at 7:59 pm
Ben, first, the "militia" mentioned included all able bodied males of military age, so, technically, you are the militia, as are all of us. Second, that was a pre-amble, not the subject of the sentence, as has been noted by the supreme court innumerable times. All the rights are the rights of the people. Always have been, always will. Any twisting of the wording to attempt to paint this as applying the government's right to not force itself to disarm (which is beyond ludicrous) is the height of vaccuous psuedo-intellectual pablum. An even more pedantic argument is attempting to apply this to military arms of the day, ignoring the stance of the government in the 1934 Miller vs. US case, where the US government argued that the case against Miller was valid BECAUSE his weapon was not one in common military use of the day.
Now when you begin mentioning this as a natural right or god given or the flying spaghetti monster, it is inherent that every living being has a right to self defense of one's life, and will exercise that right when threatened. If you don't believe me, feel free to go out and test that theory against a mountain lion, then get back with us if it decides to hand over it's wallet without your liver becoming an appetizer.
Now, if you'd bothered to actually READ the constitution and Bill of Rights, it specifically mentions that not ALL rights were included, and a lack of inclusion did not mean it was prohibited, or less deserving of the freedom to exercise said right. Concealed carrying of a firearm, while not being included, is also not excluded.
And for moreregulation: One thing that helps in having a cogent position when discussing things of this nature not getting ones' knowledge of the US constitution and history of 2nd Amendment litigation, along with ones' knowledge of firearms from comic books.
on Feb 15, 2014 at 9:40 pm
i really like this posting process, many other places require an email and phone number. i thank you town square for that.
moreregulation, if you(or anyone) have(has) a problem passing the DMV test, please get rid of your license and any vehicle you may own. i have known people who have gone in on their 18th birthday and got their license(never having a permit. also, they are downright horrible drivers and i will never get in a car with them.
also you do not need a license to buy a car, just to drive it off the lot. and you live in california i assume, so i am positive you know of the major problem of uninsured and nolicense problem.
and why do i want to carry?
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on Feb 15, 2014 at 10:43 pm
zzzzz, I wrote that: "The test that you insist is needed for guns is only required for HANDGUNS! I can't believe you don't know that. Wow! Next year a safety test will be required, but for now, you don't need one to buy a shotgun or rifle."
and you once again proved to be another gun nut ignoramus by compounding your error by writing:
"I certainly would recommend you to educate yourself on the law, before you show your illiteracy to the public. Read the Penal Code sec. 26840(a). In case you have difficulty with very basic English, I'll translate it for you: Firearm safety certificate is required if you buy ANY gun in California"
OK zzzzz, let's look up the code you cited and see if indeed you currently actually have to pass a test before buying a shotgun or rifle in California:
Go to the code section here:
Web Link
and read:
26840. (a) A dealer shall not deliver a firearm unless the person
receiving the firearm presents to the dealer a valid firearm safety
certificate, or, in the case of a handgun, an unexpired handgun
safety certificate. The firearms dealer shall retain a photocopy of
the firearm safety certificate as proof of compliance with this
(b) This section shall become operative on January 1, 2015.
See (b)? Do you understand that this law is not in force for almost a whole year?
Unbelievable! Now who is illiterate?
And I can't believe that you are balking about having to pass a simple test showing you understand basic firearm safety and some laws around their use. Is this really just so difficult for you?
I guess it is....
on Feb 15, 2014 at 11:14 pm
Gee Pro2A, you said: "Moreregulation has a way of dodging truth, dragging on a losing argument, posting false data, and flat out lying so I will respond without debate."
You will respond "without debate"? What does that mean? Why don't you point out my false data and lies? Oh, that's right.. you can't, because everything I have said is true. "Without debate"... please!
Here is a summary of the intelligent points brought up by the gun nuts in this thread:
1) To get a rifle in California it is a lot more burdensome than a first time automobile driver getting a license. (When presented with contrary evidence, there was a lot of frustrated spluttering and name calling.)
2) You need to pass a written test to buy a rifle or shotgun in California. (When pointed out that the law requiring a test for long guns was not active yet, I was called illiterate.) Then, when I showed them the exact reference in the penal code stating the law truly WASN'T in effect until 2015, xxxxx realized how foolish he/she was and is drafting an apology...ha, right.
3) Apparently, requesting that gun ownership have some regulations that help keep the community safe apparently flies in the face of the Constitution. The gun nuts here want anyone and everyone to be able to buy any gun they wish and carry it anywhere. They believe that the Constitution allows ANYONE (criminals, mentally disabled, etc..) to go into a gun dealer and anonymously buy as many guns and ammunition as they have money for.
It's a sad fact that the gun manufacturers are manipulating the stupid in this country to help them preserve and grow their profiting on violence.
on Feb 16, 2014 at 12:48 am
@moreregulation, you are just another MAIG minion.Wonder how much you got pay to spread their hate?.You are soo out of touch with reality, is sad.
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I cannot even begin to express how difficult it was to leave British Columbia. If not for the fact that I missed Jasper the Dog SO MUCH while we were away I would have been tempted to find a way to stay. It honestly felt like it would have been that easy; like I could have just stepped out of my whole life here in Ontario and started anew on the other side of the country without missing a beat.
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Levenhuk 7-21mm Eyepiece adds so much more to your telescope. The Levenhuk Zoom Eyepiece is a varied focal-length eyepiece that can completely replace several eyepieces. You can easily locate an object for observation at a close focal distance and then study it in detail at maximum magnification. The twist-up rubber eyecup allows for comfortable observations with or without eyeglasses. All this makes this eyepiece a must-have for any keen astronomer. The scale engraved on the shell allows you to easily set the desired focal length within the 7-21-mm range, and the view is guaranteed to be crystal-clear at any focal...
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Levenhuk G50 Blank Slides, 50 Pieces
The Levenhuk G-50 Microscope Slides are just what you need for exploring with your microscope. These slides are made of high-quality glass and are highly transparent. Due to their uniform thickness, you can even use the Levenhuk G50 Blank Microscope Slides for large specimens without having to fine-tune the focus afterward. Smooth, polished edges are yet another advantage of Levenhuk G50 Blank Slides; this reduces glare at the edges of the slide during observations and minimizes the chance of accidental cuts during preparation. Levenhuk G50 Blank Slides may be used with any model of optical microscope for serious scientific research...
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Levenhuk Ra EQ5 GoTo Equatorial Mount
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Levenhuk LP10 Lens-Eyepiece Cleaning Pen
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Levenhuk N10 NG Prepared Slides Set
The Levenhuk N-10 N.G. Prepared Slides let you look at specimens in a whole different way. These slides are already prepared, and all you need to do is place one on the stage and focus the view. If you feel that you are ready to create your own slides, the experiment kit includes several blank slides with cover glasses that you can use. Levenhuk N10 NG Prepared Slides may be used with a microscope of any brand and make. Levenhuk 29279: N10 NG Prepared Slides Set, Small Package Contents: Levenhuk N10 NG Prepared Slides 5 Blank Slides 10 Cover Glasses Bird feathers Cat fur Dog fur Fish fin Ant Butterfly wing Fly...
Levenhuk Ra UHC Filter
See the world through a Levenhuk U.H.C Filter. Levenhuk Ra UHC 2" Filter is a great accessory...
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Levenhuk Space Posters Set
The Levenhuk Space Posters Set is an awesome way to learn about the solar system. The cool designs of the Levenhuk Solar System Posters will give you an idea of how the universe looks, and provide you with interesting facts about the cosmos. The posters look amazing and captivating, whether on the wall of a teenager's room or in a classroom. Levenhuk Sun and Other Stars Poster There are some incredibly gigantic stars in the universe. In fact, some of them are so huge that our Sun would look like a grain of sand next to a rock if you were to...
Levenhuk Ra ATZ Altazimuth Mount
The Levenhuk Ra ATZ Mount gives you the control you need. This telescope mount is a perfect choice for both terrestrial observations and stargazing. Levenhuk Ra ATZ Mount w/ Aluminum Tripod has precise altitude and azimuth slow-motion control mechanisms; and is much easier to use than any equatorial mount. Besides, this mount is very compact and lightweight, which allows you to easily carry it to the observation site. This mount is a perfect addition to your equipment, as you do not have to adjust it before every stargazing session. The durable aluminum tripod may be adjusted to a height within...
Levenhuk Ra O-III Filter
The Levenhuk Ra O-3 Filter is just what you need to get an edge in nebulae observation. Levenhuk Ra O-III 2" Filter is a narrow-passband filter with a barrel diameter of 2" that transmits wavelengths of the visible spectrum within 150 Ã… (15 nm) range. This filter suppresses all light that lies outside its 4900-5010 Ã… (490-501 nm) passband and is perfect for observations of nebulae. Keep in mind, however, that this filter gives a green tint to observed objects. The Levenhuk Ra O-III Filter is highly effective under urban illumination conditions and may be used for urban stargazing and...
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Levenhuk Ra Star Diagonal Mirror, 99%
The Levenhuk Ra 1.25in Star Diagonal has a tough exterior made of anodized aluminum. Levenhuk Ra 1.25" Star Diagonal is a high-quality diagonal mirror that has a reflection angle of 90° and a barrel diameter of 1.25". The dielectric coating of the mirrors boasts a 99% reflectivity that yields sharp and bright views of observed objects. Star diagonals are perfect for observations of celestial objects near the zenith with refractors and catadioptric telescopes, as they create an upright, albeit mirrored (left to right), image. The shell of this star diagonal is made of lightweight anodized aluminum. The Levenhuk Ra Star...
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Levenhuk A3x Barlow Lens
The Levenhuk A3x Barlow Lens gives you a clear image with three times the magnification. Levenhuk Magnification Barlow Lens increases telescope focal length by 3, and therefore doubles the magnification of any eyepiece used with it by 3 as well. Used primarily for observations of the Moon, Sun, Solar System planets. The lens should be placed located directly in front of the eyepiece. Causes practically no additional aberrations. The lens has a multilayer anti-reflective coating that provides the most vivid and sharp images. Due to this feature, Levenhuk 3x Lens can be used not only for astronomical observations, but for...
Levenhuk NG Prepared Slides Set
The Levenhuk N-18 N.G. Prepared Slides give you a taste of what your missing. This kit already contains fully prepared samples of biomaterials so that you can spend more time studying them. The Levenhuk N18 NG Prepared Slides Set also contains a Levenhuk G50 set of slides with polished edges. They provide the most comfortable observations with no glare or distortion. Slides can be used with any microscope model. Levenhuk 29276: NG Prepared Slides Set, Small Levenhuk 29277: NG Prepared Slides Set, Small Levenhuk 29278: NG Prepared Slides Set, Small Package Contents: Levenhuk N18 NG Prepared Slides Set: Onion peel Wheat weevil Root cap Lime twig Anther Ovary (plant) Camellia Geranium leaf epidermis Bee...
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Levenhuk M20 Large Planisphere
The Levenhuk M20 Large Planisphere is a fun way to learn about the planets, stars, and locations. This chart is a rotating star chart that quickly and easily helps you find out which celestial objects may be observed at your location, at a given date and time. While observing the night sky, our ancestors noticed that it constantly changes throughout the year. Due to the rotation of our planet (around the Sun and around its own axis), what we see on the celestial sphere varies as months go by, and even during the day! This realization led to the creation...
Levenhuk Ra 2 in. ED Eyepiece
The Levenhuk ED Parfocal Eyepiece is just what you need to enhace your sight. Levenhuk Ra 35 mm 2" ED is a practical parfocal eyepiece with a long focal length. The optical elements are made of ED glass and are fully multi-coated, yielding, as a result, sharp and bright views of observed objects. The edges of the lenses are blackened to eliminate glare from observed bright objects. With its 2" barrel diameter, this eyepiece can still be used with a 1.25" focuser with a special adapter. Therefore, this eyepiece can be used with a telescope of any brand and make.
Levenhuk 1.25 in. Optical Filter
The Levenhuk Green Light Optical Filter is perfect for detailed lunar and planetary observations. Levenhuk Optical filter #56 (light green) has a barrel diameter of 1.25" and transmits up to 53% of visible light. With this filter, you can study the minutest details of celestial objects—such as the Solar System planets or the Moon—including aspects of them that you wouldn't be able to see without it. Levenhuk 28086: 1.25 in. Optical Filter, Light Green, Small Levenhuk 28087: 1.25 in. Optical Filter, Green, Small Levenhuk 28088: 1.25 in. Optical Filter, Red, Small Levenhuk 28089: 1.25 in. Optical Filter, Orange, Small Levenhuk 28090: 1.25 in. Optical Filter,...
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Levenhuk Reach for the Sun Growth Chart
The Levenhuk Solar System Growth Chart is a fun, exploratory way to keep memories. This chart allows you to follow your child's growth and provide your child with a fun way to learn all the planets of the Solar System. No more putting marks on doorposts and walls - with this growth chart you can easily measure your child's height. The Levenhuk Growth Chart is printed on a heavy-weight glossy paper with images of the Solar System planets, sorted by distance from the Sun (the planets closest to the Sun being at the top). As children grow, they will reach...
Levenhuk Ra LER Eyepiece
The Levenhuk Ra L.E.R. Eyepeice is for those who are serious about their telescope. Levenhuk Ra LER 3 mm is a practical eyepiece with a short focal length of 3 mm (0.1 in) and a long eye relief for maximum comfort during observations. This model performs best during planetary observations and may be used with a telescope of any optical design. The optics of this eyepiece are fully multi-coated and produce sharp and clear views across the field of view. LER (Long Eye Relief) eyepieces have a very long eye relief that provides for maximum comfort during observations, even if...
Levenhuk Ra Red Dot Finder
The Levenhuk Ra RDS40 Red Dot Finder comes with the ability to change the brightness. Levenhuk Ra FDS-40 is a red dot finder, which allows you to find the desired object on the celestial sphere and easily center it in the field of view of your optical tube. Apart from celestial observations at night, the red dot LED with variable brightness may be used for daytime terrestrial observations. This red dot finder has four different target patterns: you can choose between a large and a small red dot, a crosshair and a circle with a crosshair. Levenhuk Ra F.D.S.40 will...
Levenhuk Ra ER20 WA Eyepiece
The Levenhuk Ra ER-20 W.A. Eyepiece is just what you need to heighten your sight. This eyepiece is a wonderful wide-angle eyepiece with a 9-mm focal length and an apparent field of view of 68°. Its 20-mm eye relief allows you to observe the celestial sphere in comfort when wearing glasses. All optical elements are made of special fully multi-coated glass that provides for clear and sharp views of observed objects. With its 1.25" barrel diameter, this eyepiece can still be used with a 2" focuser with a special adapter. Therefore, this eyepiece can be used with a telescope of...
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Levenhuk Ra 1.25 in. Zoom Eyepiece
The Levenhuk Zoom Eyepiece is the ideal eyepiece when you need to get up close and personal. Levenhuk Ra 1.25" 3x Zoom 8-24 mm is a very reliable zoom eyepiece. The design of this model allows you to smoothly change focal length during observations within the 8-24 mm range, changing the practical power of the telescope setup. The scale on the side of this eyepiece allows you to set the exact focal length with unprecedented ease and precision. All optical elements are made of special glass that was fully multi-coated for maximum light transmission and, as a result, sharp and...
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Levenhuk 2x Barlow Lens
Get the clear image you're expecting with Levenhuk 2x Barlow Lens. The Levenhuk Magnification Barlow Lens is a practical and easy way to increase the focal length of your telescope twofold. The achromatic lens is made of fully multi-coated glass that produces high-quality images without aberration. Thanks to its 1.25" barrel diameter, this lens may be used with a large number of telescopes of any brand and make. The Levenhuk Barlow Lens includes two protective caps for the lens. Levenhuk 50773: 2x Barlow Lens, Black, Small Levenhuk 44473: 2x Barlow Lens, Black, with Camera Adapter, Small Specifications for Levenhuk 2x Barlow Lens: Magnification: 2x Barrel Diameter: 1.25" Package...
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Levenhuk 6.3 mm Kellner Eyepiece
The Levenhuk 6.3mm Kellner Eyepiece is just what you need for your telescope. The Levenhuk Telescope Eyepiece delivers images with minimum chromatic aberrations. The 3-element system of achromatic lenses provides a crystal-clear image across the field of view at minimum cost. The fully multi-coated optics reduce reflections and offer a sharp, bright, and crisp view without any aberrations. It is recommended to use the Levenhuk Kellner Eyepiece at close to medium magnification with any small or medium-aperture telescopes of more than f/6 lens speed. Levenhuk 28070: 6.3 mm Kellner Eyepiece, Silver, Small Specifications for Levenhuk 6.3mm Kellner Eyepiece: Optical design: 3-element Kellner, fully multi-coated Focal...
Levenhuk Ra H-Beta Filter
The Levenhuk Filter is perfect to see what you want and not what you don't. The Levenhuk Ra H-Beta 2" filter is used for observations of deep-sky objects, such as emission nebulae (H II) and others. This filter greatly enhances the contrast of observed objects and suppresses up to 90% of light, so it is perfect for urban stargazing. This filter suppresses light pollution, making skies darker as a result. Levenhuk Ra H-Beta 2" Lens Filter has a barrel diameter of 2". Levenhuk 45129: Ra H-Beta Filter, Brown, Small Levenhuk 35438: Ra H-Beta Filter, Brown, Small Specifications for Levenhuk Ra H-Beta Filter: Barrel Diameter: 2" Package...
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Levenhuk Ra CLS Filter
The Levenhuk Lens Filter is ideal for observations of deep-sky objects. Levenhuk Ra CLS 2" Filter is capable of enhancing the contrast of observed nebulae and other deep-sky objects, which will be very useful for those who often stargaze in the city. It suppresses up to 90% of city lights, making the skies appear darker. Levenhuk Ra CLS 2" Filters have a barrel diameter of 2". This filter is widely used for celestial observations as well as astrophotography, as it greatly enhances the contrast of resulting images. Levenhuk 45130: Ra CLS Filter, Violet, Small Levenhuk 35439: Ra CLS Filter, Violet, Small Specifications for...
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Online Multi-Hand Blackjack is part of the same family as the classic Blackjack game, which means the rules are theoretically the same, except the fact that the fun, the excitement and the chances to win are up to five times more significant.
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The first thing a player must do when playing multi-hand Blackjack is to decide how many hands he wants to bet on. On multi-hand Blackjack, the dealer must stand at 17. The player who wins with a Blackjack is paid out at odds of 3:2 on his original bet. And if he has taken out insurance against the dealer's Blackjack, the player is paid out at 2:1.
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Aurora Central's Mike O'Donnell starts the celebration after the Chargers defeated Marmion Academy in a regional game on Monday, Feb. 25, 2013. | Donnell Collins~For Sun-Times Media
Aurora Central did it again.
The Chargers made just enough free throws in the fourth quarter and held off Marmion 53-51 in the first round of the Class 3A IMSA Regional Monday.
It allowed ACC to claim the rubber match in the season series between the two clubs. The Chargers had won the opener 63-60 but were blown out 60-36 by the Cadets just 10 days ago. For the second year in a row, though, coach Nate Drye's team held off their rivals in a first-round playoff game. It evens the all-time series at 38-38.
"We were struggling at the line for awhile there and (point guard) Anthony Andujar finally got the lid off for us, and he also did a nice job handling the ball and their pressure down the stretch," said Drye, whose team made just 4-of-9 from the line through three quarters but then made 13-of-18 in the fourth.
Andujar was 5-of-6 in the fourth and finished with 13 points. Senior forward Phil Schuetz led the way with a game-high 17 points for the Chargers (15-12), who move on to Tuesday's 6 p.m. semifinal against conference rival and top seed Wheaton Academy, a team that has beaten the Chargers twice.
Marmion led 20-17 with 3:56 remaining in the second quarter, but ACC reeled off an 11-0 run to close the quarter and take control with a 28-20 advantage at the break.
"Shawn Soris (11 points) had a big three-pointer in that run," said Drye.
Both teams struggled from the floor in the third, scoring just six points each. Schuetz scored on a layup to open the final frame and gave ACC its biggest lead of the game — 36-26 — but the decision was far from over.
The Cadets closed within 44-42 on two Mike Sheehan free throws with 2:14 remaining, but ACC made the rest of its points from the free-throw line, making 9-of-12.
Sophomore post Jake Esp led the Cadets (10-19) with 16 points, despite battling foul trouble all night. Sophomore Jordan Glasgow added 13 and Alex Theisen, who hit a three-pointer in the final four seconds for the final margin, finished with 10.
"We couldn't make a shot (late in the second quarter)," said Marmion coach Ryan Paradise. "For the first 16 minutes, I thought we were scared to death out there and they were the aggressors. We regrouped in the third and fourth, but that's tough when you're always trying to come from behind and that's been our M.O. all year."
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Backpacker Magazine – September 1998
The Middle Fork of the Salmon River Trail is a 100-mile-long backpacker's dream that comes complete with muscle-soothing waters and the occasional glass of wine with your four-course dinner.
I'm enjoying the solitude on an exquisite jewel of a white-sand beach. It's my last night on the Middle Fork of the Salmon River, and my heart is aching that I didn't schedule a few more days to sit by the river's edge and listen to what it has to say.
Suddenly, I hear a splash. I swivel my head in its direction and spy a tiny, blue catamaran angling toward my beach. The oarsman notices me just as he touches shore. "Oh. Sorry. I didn't see you."
"No problem," I tell him, half meaning it.
"Say, I wonder if you'd mind company tonight?"
"Uhhh, well, I guess..."
"Great! My hunting buddies are a mile up the river. I told them that if anyone was on this stretch of beach I'd just hike back up and we'd make camp at their raft. Are you sure you don't mind? It's no problem if you do."
I hesitate long enough to let my disappointment show, then assure him, faintly, that it would be fine. He reaches into his raft, pulls out a 12-gauge shotgun, and aims it skyward. Blam, blam. I nearly jump out of my skin as his prearranged signal reverberates among the canyon walls and echoes between my ears. This evening is taking on a life of its own. Ten minutes later, when the night has grown so dark that I can barely see halfway across the river, a great homemade spectacle of a raft right out of the movie Waterworld sweeps around the bend and glides into shore. Two men jump off carrying cases of beer.
Oh well, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. I crack open a cold one.
I didn't really know what to expect on this 100-mile hike, but I found it all-and more. The Middle Fork of the Salmon River in the Frank Church-River of No Return Wilderness (MFSRFCRNRW, for short, sort of) is a collection of paradoxes. It is superbly wild, yet smattered with small ranches. It's as fine a trail as I've traveled, but utterly devoid of hikers. I enjoyed days of undisturbed privacy, but nights of unanticipated-and not entirely unwelcome-socializing. The trail itself lies at the heart of the largest designated wilderness area in the Lower 48, but it's easily accessed by air service, which I'll take advantage of at hike's end.
Airplanes and ranches in a wilderness? Well, sometimes to preserve a canyon you have to bend like a river, a lesson well known to legendary Idaho Senator Frank Church. Besides his renown in foreign policy, Church was revered and reviled as the floor manager for the original 1964 Wilderness Act, author of the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act of 1968, and the point man in later efforts to designate four Idaho wilderness areas, in-cluding the granddaddy of them all, the one that now bears his name. To push this gigantic 2.4-million-acre wilderness through Congress, Church and his allies had to incorporate a few things you wouldn't expect in a primitive area, including 24 gravel airstrips used by hunters, fishermen, ranchers, and forest-service workers since the 1920s. They also grandfathered in a few historic ranches that continue to operate on private land within the reserve.
The River of No Return Wilderness Bill was finally passed in 1979, one year after President Jimmy Carter rafted the Middle Fork with Interior Secretary Cecil Andrus. In 1984, as cancer laid Church on his deathbed, Congress renamed the wilderness in his honor. About the victory he'd wrangled against stiff opposition, Church said, "The winners are the people of Idaho, who will enjoy the finest wilderness in the West, the crown jewel of the National Wilderness System."
High among the spoils of this triumph is a collection of the finest hot springs this side of Hades. This fact didn't mean much to me when I initially planned my hike, but that was before I met Leo Hennessy. Leo is an avowed hot-springs fanatic. As the nonmotorized-trails administrator for the Idaho Department of Parks and Recreation, he felt the professional need-nay, the duty-to christen my journey properly by accompanying me to one of his favorite soaks. Three miles of trail and two thigh-deep crossings of Bear Valley Creek brought us to a rivulet that steamed as it dropped from pool to pool. There, just before the tiny stream's warmth was lost to the frigid creek, we lay naked in its soothing waters, watching a brilliant Milky Way burn through the blackening sky.
"You know," said Leo, while steeping in Earth's exquisite brew, "if you walk just right you can probably repeat this experience most every night down the canyon."
Cooling off between dips, we searched the map for tiny blue circles indicating hot springs. There it was. Tomorrow night I'd rest in the blue circle labeled Sheepeater. Never mind the roughly 28 trail miles separating here and there.
In the morning, we soaked again, then Leo accompanied me to where Bear Valley Creek and Marsh Creek converge to form the Middle Fork of the Salmon River. Leo had to leave to return to "the office"-in his case, to construct yurts for winter campers high in the mountains above Boise. "Poor me," he sighed at the thought of heading back to the daily grind.
"Build 'em snug," I teased, "'cause I'll be back with a pair of skis." Then I spun around and strode the splendid trail. At 6,500 feet the hillsides were thick with Douglas and alpine fir, the air sweet with duff and moisture. Soon the woods opened to reveal autumn-tinged aspen groves dotting the rocky hillsides like gold flecks in a miner's pan.
I fairly floated down the trail that day, past four horseback riders with handlebar mustaches and cowboy chaps, past two footsore hunters humping bloody sacks of elk meat out of their deep-hills camp, past abandoned log cabins hinting of mining dreams gone sour, and down, down, down the otherwise empty trail until, wearily, I reached Sheepeater Hot Springs and its riverside campsites. There I stood barefoot in the river, letting its numbing waters cool my flaming knees. A search through warm mudflats led me to a 103°F pool into which I slowly eased with a reclining "ahhh"-the ideal closing to a high-paced day. I love motion but my body wasn't in tune with the kind of pace I'd kept that day, and I was glad for the soothing heat.
The morning sun was still well below the skyline when I struck off the next day. Gentle valley walls rose some 5,000 forested feet to ridgelines, and the cool air of the shadowy canyon made for perfect hiking weather. A few miles downstream an armada paddled by. Three kayaks and a support raft looked uncannily like PT boats surrounding an aircraft carrier. A few miles farther still, I met the paddlers at the Indian Creek Forest Service guard station, where boaters must check in; backpackers, being a relatively rare breed hereabouts, are exempt from most such regulations. As it turned out, we'd shared camp the night before, but because Sheepeater is such a sprawling site, we'd seen nothing of each other but our distant tents.
In another couple of miles one of the kayakers paddled toward me as I cruised down the riverside trailway.
"Hey!" he yelled up, "Care to join us at camp tonight?"
I replied that I wasn't sure how far I wanted to hike that day. When I'm in motion I sometimes just like to let the end of the day tell me when to stop rather than fixing on a particular destination.
"It's called Sunflower Hot Springs, on the other side of the river. I'll give you a ride across if you want."
"Thanks," I said, "I'll signal if I feel like stopping." I really wasn't in the mood for the company of strangers. Observing a few boaters as I hiked didn't bother me-after all, the total count of humans I'd seen each day had been lower than I could expect on almost any trail within striking distance of a major city. Better yet, I'd seen no signs at all of fellow backpackers.