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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:01 pm
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Howdy All,
seems the site dosen't have a 'Hardware' forum, so i will have to post here.
I'm finally puting a new box together A Cooler Master Praetorian PAC T01-E (not their latest) with an Antec-480W PSU. Along with some periferal Cooler Master fan/temp control/sensing additions.
I walked into a shop in the city today to enquire about AthlonXPs' and Giga byte boards, along with 1gb Kingston ram.
A got a bit of a chastising from the attendant (grin). He suggested, though didn't state directly, that i would have to be a 'half wit' to build something like that. What he called using "dinosaur" technology
Hey, he's probably right, as i haven't really had much to do with box builds and hw in general. Though i have enquired here a few times on basically the same theme. It's a pity the old data base isn't available.
So, he got me thinking ... for a few hundred dollars more ... it does make dense.
So now i'm thinking of a 64 bit Athlon and an Asus board with possibly a Giel or Cosair 1gb ram module.
A few confusions have cropped up.
On the spec page for the ...
"asus A8V Delux"
it states ...
Storage South Bridge
- 2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
- 2 x Serial ATA, support RAID 0, RAID 1, and JBOD
Promise 20378 RAID controller
- 1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
- 2 x Serial ATA
- Support RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 0+1, and Multiple RAID
Does the seconf reference to UltrDMA 133/100/88/33 refer to the RAI Controller mentioned above it ?
And the first is just the standard ide controller. Which mean it has two different disk ide facilities. I guess it does but i'm not to clear there.
and for the
Delux WiFi
Storage South Bridge
-2 x ATA133
-2 x SATA, RAID0, RAID1
Promise R20378 RAID controller
-1xUltraDMA133 supports two hard drives
-2xSerial ATA
Again, i guess it's similar to the first one. That is, the second ide references are for the RAID controller. If not, whats the difference between 2 X ATA 133 and 1XUltraDMA 133
Are they saying there that the standard ide controller dosen't support DMA, it must if it's ATA 133.
I'm a little unclear on that.
The bloke wasn't very impressed with my idea for "Kingston" ram either. He suggested that they were ok a few years ago but therv'e dropped back on the quality of materials they use and now just trade on their name ???
What do folks think on that, and what might be your thoughts on Cosair and Geil modules.
Strangely, Kingston is the only site iv'e found that has a compatability list for different Mobo chipsets. At least, on Cosairs site i couldn't find anything. And on Giels' it was even worse.
Another thing, when it comes to 64 bit Athlons ... what kind of cooling strategy have people been using. In the kind of fans used.
The actual price difference for all of this compared to my original dinosaur plane, only amounts to a few hunfred dollars extra. Except for the ram. There is a big jump in price on the Geil and Cosair, compared to the Kingston. But, i can delay a little longer if needed.
Any ideas people may have on this would be much apprieciated
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:14 pm
Post subject: RE: Athlon 64bit and MB Ram issues
Completely edited this post as it seemed a bit vague. And as i accidently posted in a "new window" i lost my login with the result that the above went in as "Guest". So i can't really edit it.
When i eventually figured out that "mobile" is the "hardware" board, i though it should probably be there.
Cooling issues with Athlon 64 bit processors.
What fans are people using. Have problems occurred there. How does the default box fan perform. Is cooling any more of an issue compared to the 32 bit Athlons.
Asus boards: asus A8V Delux
Storage South Bridge
- 2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
- 2 x Serial ATA, support RAID 0, RAID 1, and JBOD
Promise 20378 RAID controller
- 1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
- 2 x Serial ATA
- Support RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 0+1, and Multiple RAID
The references to UltraDMA ide ports. One is the standard 2 channel dual port while the later is specific to the RAID controller. I guess thats self evident.
I was thinking of "Kingston" but the shop person i spoke to wasn't impressed. As far as he was concerned Giel was the only one to consider. A bit expensive for me though.
I have been looking at Cosair, but haven't been able to get any compatibility references for either it or Giel against Mobo chipsets/brands. Kingston does have listing.
It's been on the cards for a while now and finally got around to the update box build. First time. Went for a Praetorian tower and an Antec 480W PSU. I was going to get a Athlon 3200 with a giga byte 7VT600F chipset, but this shop person thought it was a bit brain dead to go for, in their words, "dinosaur" technology.
The price increase is only a few hundred dollars, or three weeks, and the logic makes sense.
Any thoughts on the processor Mobo and ram concerns would be muxh apprieciated. Especially cooling.
Pity the old data base isnt available as there would be a lot of good searchable info there on this.
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:35 pm
Post subject: RE: Athlon 64bit and MB Ram issues
My only thought on cooling is that I haven't found it to be a problem. I have an Athlon 64 3200+ processor with a copper thermaltake cooler (nothing fancy). It only gets as high as 57ºC when it's running CPDN, most of the time it hovers around 42ºC. I have got a roomy well-ventilated case though.
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:50 pm
Post subject: RE: Athlon 64bit and MB Ram issues
Athlon64's have two pin grid layouts, 754 and 939. You pay a slight premium for 939, but you get more of an upgrade path (to some, including me, upgrade paths are a little pointless and are really just marketing jargen to make you fell less bad about spending $1000 now as you think it will be upgradeable in two years time, when realistically the game has moved on and it makes more sense to start from scratch on the cpu and mobo front), also with the 939 you get dual channel memory capability, ie 3-5% speed increase in memory if you use two matched pairs of RAM.
I've got an Asus K8VSE (754), yes the extra ATA is for RAID, UDMA133 and ATA133 are the same thing, a lthough ATA133 is not an official standard and most drives wont get near that. You might probably want to stick to SATA, especially the seagate 7200.8 which have got great reviews for speed, quietness and cool running.
My 754 with Athlon64-3200 have been totally solid, really reliable, using a dial adjustable thermaltake cooler and full tower case with a couple of silent 80mm fans and one silent 120mm fan. CPU, after 3 hours reads 38c, under load it reaches around 43c at the most. Fan is near silent at 2,700rpm too.
My 64-3200 is much cooler running than either my XP1600 or XP1900's.
I can happily recommend the asus 754 platform (the X version of the board is the current one), but If you dont mind spending the extra, then 939 is probably the better bet. RAM wise, I've had no problems with OCZ, Corsair, Kingston, Samsung or Crucial, I favour crucial but thats probably becuase I don't bother overclocking any more and prefer the value and stability combo. But again, if you can stretch to a 939 based system, then paired corsair is nice.
I've always stuck with VIA because of solid linux drivers. Nforce have been a little shaky in the past, but that was around nforce-2, and now nforce-4 is out and apparently is very very good, so its something that needs to be looked into, otherwise you could do alot worse with:
Abit Fatal1ty AN8 SKT939 £130
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 £15
AMD (Winchester) Athlon 64bit 3500 £180
OCZ EL Dual Channel Kit 2x512MB DDR400 PC3200 CL 2-3-2-6 £130
Leadtek Winfast Geforce 6600 Gt128mb Ddr3 £140
Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 250gb, Sata 3.5lp 8ms 7200rpm 8mb £100
A roughly similar system based on socket 754 costs much less, but is slower (15%), less upgradeable, less tunable, depends whats more important:
Asus K8V-X Socket-754 VIA K8T800 ATX £50
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 £15
AMD (Newcastle) Athlon 64bit 3400+ 754pin 512kb £145
Corsair (VS1GBKIT400C3) 1024MB (2 x 512MB Matched Pair Value Range) £70
Leadtek Winfast Geforce 6600 Gt128mb Ddr3 £140
Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 250gb, Sata 3.5lp 8ms 7200rpm 8mb £100
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:42 am
Post subject: RE: Athlon 64bit and MB Ram issues
Yes, thanks both for that, it's quite helpfull.
It's cleared up some of my concerns on heating, and reinforces, my somewhat unimpressed sales person friends suggestion. It's refreshing to find a sales person whose prepared to speak straight, about how brain dead my plan was, rather than just go along with it for the sale too
.. if you use two matched pairs of RAM.
... then paired corsair is nice ...
I don't think i really understand how the dual channel actually works with the 939. I have notice a lot of references to 'dual channel' ram ads lately though. And my unimpressed sales person friend (grin), did refer to dual modules. More to just gauge my reaction i think. His suspicions were confirmed
It looks like there are some significant price differences between the uk and au. Your disks and ram prices are much lower, but boards and processors seem quite comparable. Arctic Freeze is much cheaper here though
There's the power of populations and markets for you.
But as it only means i'll have to wait 3 weeks to get the extra cash, i'll go for the 939/Asus/Geil or Cosair. I'd love to get a Geil, if i can swing it. It will give me time to think on a maintenance strategy for the box more fully. I'm in a dusty environment, with very little control over that element. I must have easy, regular access to the fans. Which the Praetorian seems to stupidly denige. But thats been now figured. The next model up does provide a hinged grill, providing fan access. The PAC T01-E1 ineeds the front control panel removed, which uses these sexadecimal screw heads to attach to the box frame. The worst ind of screw head for actually removing and then reapplying regularly. Otherwise it'is a nicely layed out box.
I think i'd be reluctant to buy from Cooler Master again though. They are nice on a design level, but ... they seem to fall over on certain functional aspects.
Jet 7 fan, Socket A:
Nice, turbo blades make a lot of sense, kills the blind spot in front of the central hub, very good for close range targets like cpu's. The fan head swivels so it can avoid low pressure areas, due to cross streams (another good idea). Apparently there is a 'shim' available that allows it to be used with a 939 socket, ha, i bought one, then changed my socket choice. It looks nice. Why ... do they drop it's through put down from a standard 80x80 central hubs 35-38 cfm standard to 22 cfm for the Jet ?!!.. Thats around 30% !. Can't see the sense there, unless it's a costs shave.
Aerogate II temp/rpm fan controller:
Again looks nice and is functional ... except for two things.
They promote it as a four fan temp/rpm controller. But ... one of those fans is a 40cm fan, built in to the unit. Which is also "impossible to remove" for cleaning. The screw that fixes the grill, overlaps the screw that fixes the fan. And there is no room to accommodate the fan screws length if it could be extracted. So, if it clags up ... hows that for a bit of blatant obsolescence. It's the kind of thing that gets to me, concerning the integrity of these companies. An otherwise attractive, functional device, stuffed up by one element.
I was originally going to go for Thermalake, but i couldn't stand the look of their box. The flaming red front panel made me feel off, and it seemed generally to be disorded. But i will be going for their internal stuff. Cooler Master are obviously playing subtle games with their product, worse luck, cause, they do have some good ideas.
Any way, thanks again, a 939 it is
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 1:00 pm
Post subject: RE: Athlon 64bit and MB Ram issues
Howdy heathers, i was just looking at some posts in the website forum and noticed your ...
psssst... zarathustra, it is I heathers,
I had been wondering where you were at as well, but just re-reading the above, it does sound very much like yourself. So should have guessed
Iv'e changed my mind on Thermaltake boxs recently tool. I stumbled into a shop in town which had some really nice looking cases on display, very elaborate. No price tags which i usually read as being pricey(grin), but they were certainly all set up to go, And some nice looking CoolerMaster things as well.
They also had some really good stuff from a company called 'arctic-cooling' which will need some looking into eventually as well.
Took your advice on the 939, you guys certainly have good prices on you computer gear
comes with the population i guess
So ... just howdy ..., good to see your still around
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MORE ISA News! Not only does her new restaurant have an opening date, but she made a preview video of it!
Highlights: Cat knee socks, dance interludes, the "intimate lounge", and the fact that she's pretty clearly papering her Omaha restaurant window with the New York Times.
Let me repeat: Cat. Knee. Socks.
∞ posted at 11:03 by reportingrzurer
ATTENTION VEGAN WORLD: Isa Chandra Moskowitz's restaurant, Modern Love, opens June 8 in Omaha! »
Obviously you remember that vegan queen Isa Chandra Moskowitz is opening a vegan restaurant called Modern Love in Omaha, Nebraska. This lady is way ahead of the curve.
And there's news! Modern Love has a website, a Facebook, an Instagram, a Twitter, a newsletter you can sign up for, and most importantly, a DEADLINE! There's a countdown clock on the website, and according to my math, the restaurant will be opening at the stroke of midnight (local time) on June 8. You Nebraskans should start lining up now.
The menu hasn't been announced yet but they've been teasing us with some sexy preview photos, a few of which we have poached and will now display for you here:
Who's going right away? Who's gonna buy my plane ticket?
∞ posted at 06:47 by reportingrzurer
Need a side dish for tonight? I just made Isa'a caramelized beets, and they were delicious! Mine came out pretty close to what the picture on The PPK looks like, maybe a tad more charred. Oops! That is what happens when you ignore instructions like "cut 3/4-inch chunks" and dice them very small instead. Doesn't matter, still delectable. I just have to do a quick shout-out to my internet friend Angie for guiding me to the recipe in the first place!
May I suggest buying beets with the greens still attached, as opposed to loose beets, to make this recipe? The greens and stems are absolute perfection sautéed! [Ed. note: this sounds like crazy talk] All you need is a little salt, pepper and olive oil. While Isa suggests serving with quinoa, I shudder at the notion. Not only does quinoa taste just awful to me, I'm uncomfortable for days after eating it. This affects about one in 15,000 vegans.* If you don't do quinoa either, and you're out there, reading this, know you don't have to hide it anymore! We're out there, I've found others, you're not alone.
*I made that up, it's a number based on emotion. The emotion of isolation.
∞ posted at 07:12 by jennybradley
I just made Isa Chandra Moskowitz's New England Glam Chowder from the PPK, and it is PHENOM! Have you made it yet?
It's been a pretty chilly 67 degrees in SoCal, so I needed a little something to warm up! AHAHAHAHA, just kidding, I wear tank tops everywhere, only to be met with a concerned, "Aren't you cold?" NO WAY! I JUST MOVED HERE FROM SAN FRANCISCO! (And before that Chicago! And before that, Humboldt County! This is the eternal summer phase of my life! But yeah, actually, I could've used a light sweater, I just didn't bring one, me having so many assumptions about southern California and everything.)
The truth is, I've been eating out with my family at a bunch of restaurants that serve clam chowder and it's left me with a hankering for a vegan version. So thank you, Isa! This Glam Chowder, as with all of your recipes, is awesome. Plus, I'm super into it being soy and gluten-free to boot! My pal Amanda texted me awhile back, letting me know this recipe was bomb; I just want to say "Thanks, girl! You were right! Hey, can you send me some of your future-award-winning jalapeño mac'n cheese? It would be so greatly appreciated! XoXo."
∞ posted at 06:57 by jennybradley
Isa Announces Restaurant in Omaha! ROAD TRIP! »
"First staff meeting. Can you guess what the restaurant is called?" Nov. 1, 2013, @isachandra via Instagram.
Ed. note: Rachel wrote this a while ago, I didn't post until now. Forgive me!
Astute stalkers of the queen of vegan cookbooks will already know that Isa Chandra Moskowitz is planning to open Omaha, Nebraska's first vegan restaurant. Now, in her local paper, she reveals its exact location, and its name. First, take a moment to guess.
No idea? Yeah, that photo didn't tell me squat. Answer: Modern Love. Not to be mistaken for the New York Times column—that's an SEO/Google search problem I wouldn't want to deal with, but unfortunately I was not consulted.
Deets are few, but the paper reveals a couple:
"Moskowitz describes the menu as 'swanky vegan comfort food,' and she said the restaurant will serve a revolving menu of made-from-scratch dishes. She'll make her own cheese, condiments and soda. She said she's working with local farms, and the food will focus on vegetables. She'll also serve homemade pie."
You had me at "swanky."
Oh, and don't be too jealous, but my home of Boulder, CO, is only 552 miles/7 hours and 45 minutes from this impending hotbed of awesomeness. A road trip is clearly in order once the doors open this spring. Stay tuned!!
∞ posted at 08:25 by reportingrzurer
Happy New Year, Jewish folks!* Here's my present to you: Isa just posted a kick-ass new challah recipe over on The PPK. Secret ingredients include turmeric and bananas. (If it weren't Isa, I'd be so skeptical, but it's Isa! It'll be amazing!) Even if you're not Jewish, you can get behind a bread that involves braiding and also being delicious. Let the baking begin!
And in case you need other vegan Rosh Hashanah ideas, here's a nice collection of relevant recipes from Israel-focused Ynet News.
*Dear gentiles: Today is Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year. It's a big deal, high holy, etc. Real Jews are taking the day off work and celebrating. I'm not a real Jew (just a halfie), so I'm sitting in my office typing this, wishing I could be home making vegan challah.
∞ posted at 17:30 by reportingrzurer
Oh hey Isa, vegan queen of our hearts. That's a mighty fine vegan caesar salad you've crafted.
∞ posted at 07:31 by seriousmeaveness
Have you watched Isa's video of her wild backyard bunny, Falafel, aka my new best friend? Man I wish we had wild bunnies in New York. Rats are fine and all, but there's nothing like a lightning-quick little bunny darting into your path and surprising you with cuteness. Adorability sneak attack!
(via our Laura at Jezebel)
∞ posted at 13:48 by seriousmeaveness
The Teaches of Isa: perfectly browned tofu! »
Having trouble getting gorgeous, crispy tofu for your stir-fry? Let Isa help you with her simple guide. Turns out all you really need are a good pan and a good spatula. Then you practice till you get it right every time!
[photo by Brian via Flickr]
∞ posted at 09:00 by seriousmeaveness
It's here, it's here! The second annual PPK 100 is here! It was co-written by Katie of Don't Eat Off the Sidewalk and our Laura, hooray!
Go check it out and count how many of these 100 (technically 99 plus 1 reader's choice) you've enjoyed! I've got … a number! I don't know, there are too many to assess right now, it just came out! (Special hello to my true love, umeboshi paste.)
∞ posted at 06:30 by seriousmeaveness

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When encountering a digital certificate, modern browsers first verify that it is signed by a trusted CA and then send an OCSP request to that CA's OCSP responder in order to check if the certificate is still valid -- whether it has, for example, expired or has been revoked for some reason.
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The Roush Fenway Racing driver will head the starting lineup, ahead of teammate Greg Biffle in an all-Roush front row.
"It's unreal," Edwards said of his recent hot streak, which includes three wins and a runner-up finish in his last five races dating back to last season. "I hope this keeps going. This is fun!"
Regan Smith had a career-best qualifying effort and will start third, ahead of Paul Menard and another Roush driver – David Ragan.
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Once again it was time for the semi-annual Fashion Week in New York, and Scharff Weisberg was out in force supplying lighting and video packages for an array of fall fashion events at venues around town.
"We did about 10 shows during the week—it was a very hectic schedule," reports senior rental manager Terry Jackson. "With such a massive logistical operation required for Fashion Week, everyone at Scharff Weisberg from the office to the crews, ramped up."
For the lobby of Seventh on Sixth, the event's welcome tent in midtown's Bryant Park, Scharff Weisberg created a big plasma wall for Lipman NYC client Lord & Taylor. The wall, consisting of 12 LG plasma screens in a 3x4 configuration, played back a video loop showcasing the department store's new fashion lines and displayed live feeds from various runway shows to all those passing through the tent's "lobby." Scharff Weisberg hung the screens on truss and aligned them to compose a wall 13 feet wide, 5 feet 9 inches tall, and 3.5 feet off the ground
The wall was powered by a Dataton Watchout system from Scharff Weisberg. "Patrick Denny programmed a running slide show for Lord & Taylor," notes project manager Josh Perlman, "which he was able to modify on site as the screen configuration evolved."
Scharff Weisberg also furnished a user-friendly Medialon show control system. "At the touch of a button Medialon booted the computers, Watchout, the plasma screens and started the video loop," Perlman explains. "During the day you could switch to live feeds from other events with another touch of a button." The clients came to Scharff Weisberg's office to work on the initial Watchout and Medialon design.
Scharff Weisberg also provided lighting and video for Marc Jacobs's two high-profile shows; the company has been supporting lighting designers jkld, inc. for Marc Jacobs since 2004.
For Jacobs's sportswear runway show, Scharff Weisberg supplied a large conventional lighting compliment featuring approximately 400 ETC Source 4s and an ETC dimming package. The designer's couture show four days later opted for all moving lights with the company furnishing Mac Performances and Vari-Lite 2500 washes. A grandMA console controlled lighting for both shows; Terry Jackson was senior rental manager for the project.
On the video side, Scharff Weisberg provided a 30' x 40' front projection screen and a pair of Christie Digital Roadster S+20K projectors with Turbo hard drive playback for Jacobs' couture show. The big screen displayed prerecorded graphic content supplied by Sonic Youth, which performed live during the show. Walter Elzey was Scharff Weisberg's senior account executive with Joe Volpe as project manager, Juan Mateo as projectionist and Mike Naylor as engineer.
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Later in the week the company provided lighting fixtures for the joint opening of the Yohji Yamamoto Boutique and the Y-3 sportswear store in Manhattan's Meatpacking District (MePa). The dazzling outdoor event, produced by Natalie Johns and The Directors Bureau, created a buzz among the fashion glitterati who were illuminated by a combination of TV and theatrical lighting from Scharff Weisberg. The company supplied lighting designer Tyler Littman with helium-filled Airstar balloons from Available Light in Long Island City plus an inventory of ETC and Altman fixtures, and LEC and ETC dimming and power distribution and control. John Healy was Scharff Weisberg's project manager with Gerard McCarthy gaffer.
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The Bismarck Civic Center has been transformed into a church."We're just filled with such great anticipation and excitement because we know that incredible things are going to happen," says event coordinator Michelle Duppong.The Catholic Diocese of Bismarck is hosting the THIRST conference this weekend. Organizers say it's a chance for people of all faiths to come together and celebrate the Christian faith.
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"It's a phenomenal gift to the diocese to have his eminence here for this event. He is I think the most recognized Catholic leader in the United States of America," says Msgr. Gion.Organizers say the speakers won't just appeal to Catholics."For the most part, we can get into our daily routines in life and every now and then you need to have people that can come out and inspire you and these people are dynamic, charismatic," says emcee Reed Ruggles.And they say they're expecting a big turnout."We have over 6,000 right now registered, 25 states are represented, a couple of countries. And I think it says a lot about what Bismarck is doing, what the diocese of Bismarck is bringing to the Church universally," says Ruggles.
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This year, the Party doesn't hold the national title implications it has in years past because Florida is simply mediocre. The 4-3 Gators have had a great defense this year, holding opponents to just 18.9 points per game, but their 100th-ranked passing offense has prevented the defense from carrying them to wins against stiff competition. Though the Gators started 4-0, they've lost their past three games to Alabama, LSU and Auburn.
No. 22 Georgia's season has taken an opposite course. After losing their first two games to Boise State and South Carolina, the Bulldogs have rattled off five straight wins against lesser opponents, using the weak competition to propel themselves into the BCS Standings. Sophomore quarterback Aaron Murray has impressed — he's got a 16-to-7 TD to interception ratio — but to legitimize themselves, the Bulldogs need to beat a challenging opponent like Florida.
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Nice read posted by Marc Lamont Hill, PhD. on his blog.
Win or Lose, How Will We Cope?
A top psychiatrist counsels us on managing the stress of history.
Alvin F. Poussaint, MD, is co-author with Bill Cosby of Come On People: On the Path from Victims to Victors, and co-author, with Amy Alexander, of Lay My Burden Down, Suicide and the Mental Health Crisis Among African-Americans. He is professor of psychiatry, Judge Baker Children's Center and Harvard Medical School.
Amy Alexander is the Alfred A. Knobler Fellow at The Nation Institute.
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Nov. 3, 2008
--In the two years since Sen. Barack Obama announced his bid for the presidency, black Americans have been on an emotional roller coaster. Only recently have many of us allowed ourselves to envision what once seemed impossible: A U.S. president who is a person of color. With Obama leading in national pre-election polls, the suspense has become nearly unbearable.
Even deeper at the center of our current anxiety are at least two questions that carry all the complexity of black Americans' history in this country: What will it mean personally to us if he wins? And how will it affect the future of African Americans?
Win or lose, how will we cope?
Since more than 37 million Americans are of African descent, there cannot possibly be a blanket, one-stop-shopping prescription for how to cope on the day after Nov. 4, and in the days after that. But there is a saving grace: Whether or not Obama wins the White House, his historic campaign presents a unique opportunity for a fresh commitment from all Americans, in particular from black Americans, to look at our nation, and our personal role in civic life, through a new lens.
On the Day Afterââ¬âshould he win the presidencyââ¬âthere will be a sense of wonderment, excitement, exhaustion and disbelief. And in the days after that, once the afterglow has subsided, we will confront a world that is somehow different ... but also not so different. This is when each individual will begin assessing his or her role: Will the old way of doing things still work? Or has Barack Obama provided each of us an opportunity to remake our own self-image?
Despite some claims to the contrary, Obama has never forgotten that he is African American. He has said he intends to create economic and educational opportunities that benefit all Americans who have been struggling during the past eight years of the federal government's neglectful domestic funding and policies; and that blacks, and other ethnic minorities, especially, have been "hit hardest" by the recent economic turmoil. And, as he told Michael Cottman of BlackAmericaWeb.com, he intends to make the issue of fathers participating in their families a going concern. "I am going to stay on them about that," he said, referring to black men.
Those comments fall under what has come to be known as the tired and supposedly controversial "black personal responsibility debate." The more productive tack for all black Americansââ¬âas we contemplate a new way of looking at ourselves and our opportunities in the wake of Obama's historic candidacyââ¬âis to consider the hard facts of our lives that require our immediate attention:
1.ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ Homicide is the No. 1 cause of death for black men between the ages of 15 and 29.
2.ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ Fewer than two out of six black children are born into two-parent households.
3.ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ The high school dropout rate for blacks in many urban areas exceeds 50 percent.
4.ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ More than 900,000 African Americans are incarcerated. Although blacks make up only 12 percent of the population, they represent 40 to 45 percent of the prison population in the United States.
Those statistics describe conditions that, at bottom, are symptomatic of a collective malaise that has handicapped millions of blacks for most of their time in America. It is derived from a toxic combination of the emotional and psychological scars of our past (notably, slavery and Jim Crow segregation), and the postmodern presence of institutional factors that challenge all Americans (poor education and economic opportunities, too much violence and permissiveness in pop culture).
Barack Obama cannot possibly instantly provide the antidote for our collective social ills. Yet here are some key steps we can all take, starting Nov. 5 and continuing thereafter, to begin lessening the pain we've all felt for so long:
1.àààFollowing Obama's example, we must participate in our local, state and federal government. In order to win, blacks must be in the game. That means votingââ¬âand not just when African Americans are candidates!
2.ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ Activism and constructive protest must define our battles for better jobs, schools, health care and a fair criminal justice system.
3.ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ Structural racism needs to be eliminated in all of our institutions. We must support community groups and civil rights organizations that carry on this mission.
4.ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ As parents and families, we must devote ourselves to raising healthy, productive children who believe they can be in charge. Leaders learn to lead by positive example.
5.ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ As black Americans continue to struggle against the odds, we must assume personal responsibility to become victors and avoid falling into a state of passive victimhood: If Obama becomes president, blacks can expect that the larger community will have heightened expectations of us, in terms of personal conduct and overall achievement. Raising our own expectations of ourselves will be the key to building on the opening presented by Obama's historic campaign.
Finally, Sen. Obama's campaign reflects many challenges that lay ahead for black America. More important, however, his candidacy also reflects our inherent humanityââ¬âand our hard-earned place at the top of our nation's leadership structure. On Nov. 5 and beyond, it will be more important than ever that we no longer think of ourselves as so-called minorities who have to ask for a place at the table. We must work to have our children achieve their best: Turn off the TV and read to your children. Take your child or a friend or relative's child to the public library, rather than the mall. Visit your children's teachers and get involved in their schools. These are small steps, and they are free. By engaging in them, little by little, we can raise our collective game. By embodying Obama's careful balance of confidence, intelligence, courage and compassionââ¬âa forceful combination that is only hinted at in his "Yes, We Can!" mantraââ¬âwe will move beyond a perpetual state of hopefulness. We will continue to win and to achieve.
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he's a regular on oreilly. i never really agree with him much, but he gets a say on Fox News unlike a conservative voice on most other channels. i often wonder how lucrative it must be to perpetually lay out the success strategy for one particular race. some guys like this have parlayed it quite nicely.
i wonder if this plan will ever be executed... even more disturbing, how long until the black community turns on obama if things don't get decidedly better for them?
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Richland County deputies arrested Gregory McCoy, 43, Ben Yon, 33, and Nathan Chisom, 36.
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FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- The Orioles claimed pitcher Sean Tracey off waivers Friday and made room for him on the 40-man roster by shifting Kris Benson to the 60-day disabled list. Tracey had previously known just one organization -- the White Sox -- and has spent the vast majority of his career as a starter. Tracey has started 108 of his 127 games.
The former eighth-round draft pick has steadily risen through Chicago's organization and spent one full season at both Double-A Birmingham and Triple-A Charlotte. Tracey, a right-hander, has a career record of 46-37 with a 4.00 ERA in the Minors. He got his first exposure to the big leagues last year and worked eight innings with a 3.38 ERA.
Tracey has consistently limited his opponents' home runs during his career, but he has an unusually high walk rate (4.32 per nine innings). He will likely battle for Baltimore's long-relief slot, which is currently one of the most interesting battles in camp. Todd Williams, Jeremy Guthrie and Rob Bell are the other chief candidates.
Benson, who recently had surgery to repair his partially torn right rotator cuff, is expected to miss the entire season. Baltimore has him under contract for the year and holds an option for 2008, but the right-hander has likely pitched his last game as an Oriole. Last year, in his first season with Baltimore, Benson went 11-12 with a 4.82 ERA.
The Orioles also announced Friday that they have released veteran Roger Cedeno, who had been in camp looking for an outfield job. The 32-year-old hasn't played in the big leagues since 2005 and hasn't played a meaningful role since '04 with the St. Louis Cardinals. Cedeno is a career .273 hitter with 213 stolen bases.
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Drive solutions for regenerative energy
A fundamental rule when selecting and applying variable frequency drives is "load is king." That is, the load is the controlling variable in most applications. The drive and motor react to what the load is doing, not the other way around. And in situations where factors cause the load to overpower the motor, energy regeneration issues exist. If these issues are not properly addressed, equipment damage, poor process control or downtime can result.
This article will explain what regeneration is and why it happens, while suggesting techniques to mitigate it, including dynamic braking. Drive users need to examine their applications to properly select the regenerative device that optimizes drive and motor performance and, ultimately, maximizes productivity.
What is regeneration?
Any time a motor turns faster than the controlling drive is commanding it to turn, it''s no longer a motor but a generator. Instead of taking electrical energy from the drive and converting it to mechanical energy, the motor is converting the load''s mechanical energy back to electrical energy and returning that energy to the drive. This process is called regeneration, and it typically occurs when:
Gravity contributes to downhill movement
Anytime a conveyor is going downhill and gravity moves the load faster than commanded motor speed, the motor will regenerate energy. This frequently occurs when a conveyor changes altitude, either from one floor to another, or from the top of a coal mine to the bottom.
Load inertia overpowers the motor
For example, a punch press has a spinning flywheel driving a crank that raises and lowers a die; during half of the cycle (raising the die) the load is motoring and during the other half of each cycle (lowering the die), the motor is regenerating.
Load speeds are stopped or changed quickly
When users command a decrease in speed, but the load is unable to slow down immediately because of high inertia, the load overhauls the motor and the motor becomes a generator. Using the same punch press example, if an operator needed to stop the press for a new setup, allowing the press to coast to a stop would lower productivity. Instead, the press must be stopped quickly, causing considerable regeneration.
Dealing with regeneration
When energy regenerates back to the drive, it is first absorbed into the DC bus capacitors, raising the DC bus voltage. The drive monitors its own bus voltage, and when that voltage exceeds the recommended safe level for the bus capacitors, the drive will shut itself off, eliminating the path for regenerated energy and protecting its internal components. Once this occurs, the motor and the load are no longer under drive control, and they begin coasting to a stop, halting the application and causing expensive downtime.
To optimize performance and reliability of a drive application, manufacturers can use flux braking, bus regulation, shared or common bus, line regeneration, or dynamic braking techniques to efficiently manage energy regeneration.
Flux braking
Flux braking is a software feature that can adjust the electrical output to the motor to temporarily cause the motor to be extremely inefficient. The regenerated energy is dissipated within the motor itself in the form of heat. This is an effective way to deal with low amounts of regenerated energy. However, if duty cycles are high, meaning the load pushes the motor into a generator state for an extended time or too frequently, users should seek alternative regenerative methods that avoid excessive motor heating and possible motor failure.
Bus regulation
Because regeneration occurs when motor speed is greater than commanded speed, one way to deal with the resultant regenerated energy is to eliminate it completely by increasing the commanded speed so that it is equal to or greater than the actual motor speed. Bus regulation is a software feature that monitors DC bus voltage and adjusts output frequency to regulate the voltage, controlling the regenerative state.
In the punch press application example, when the flywheel inertia overhauls the motor, the drive will sense the increasing DC bus voltage and increase the output frequency. When the cycle is motoring, the drive will decrease the frequency back to the commanded value. Although bus regulation may be constantly adjusting the drive''s output, the manufacturing process is usually unaffected because the substantial amount of inertia present will not allow the motor to actually change speed. Bus regulation is a good option for situations where the amount of regeneration is low, but the occurrence is frequent.
Common bus
In some instances, users can connect DC buses of two drives together. Instead of returning regenerated energy back to the AC line or trying to stop energy from coming back to the drive, the energy is shared between the drives. When one process regenerates, energy is sent to the second drive via a common bus, rather than being wasted as heat. Systems built with many coordinated drives, such as a paper winding machine or a steel processing line, are typically designed as a common bus system. However, some issues may exist for connecting standard drives, particularly if they have radically different ratings.
Line regeneration
Instead of preventing or absorbing regenerated energy, line regeneration puts the energy back onto the AC power line. Drives that have line regenerative capability contain a second inverter section that converts the regenerated energy back to AC and puts it back on the AC line. Because this solution requires additional hardware with the second inverter, it does raise the initial cost of the drive. However, line regeneration allows the highest performance of all of the solutions and it conserves energy in applications requiring higher horsepower (above 100 hp) or high-duty cycle.
Dynamic braking
The most common method of dealing with regeneration is dynamic braking. It is a more cost-effective solution than line regeneration or common bus and offers higher performance than flux braking or bus regulation. A dynamic brake dissipates regenerated energy into a resistor or resistor bank, converting the excess energy into heat. By switching the energy onto the resistor when the dc bus voltage rises, the drive''s internal components are protected and the process will continue.
Dynamic braking is generally cost effective at lower horsepowers and where duty cycles, or how frequently the brake is used, are low. Dynamic braking can be used at higher ratings and duty cycles, but the size of the required resistors greatly reduces cost effectiveness and energy efficiency. Applications that require occasional quick stops or speed changes are ideal candidates for dynamic braking.
Breaking down the dynamic brake
A dynamic brake consists of three basic parts: the voltage sensing circuit, the brake IGBT and the brake resistor. The voltage sensing circuit and brake IGBT together are called the chopper. The chopper module monitors the drive''s bus voltage. When energy regenerates from the motor, the bus voltage rises. The chopper module and its associated circuitry sense the rising bus voltage, and when the voltage exceeds a set, safe level, the circuitry will turn on the chopper''s transistor in order to divert the excess energy into the resistor. The module is called a chopper because to control energy flow to the resistor, the transistor is quickly turned off and on in a pattern similar to the pulse-width modulation (PWM) output of the drive itself, "chopping" up the electrical waveform that it sends to the resistor. As the energy is "bled off" to the resistor, the dc bus voltage begins to fall back to normal levels and the chopper transistor is turned off. The resistor simply converts the electrical energy into thermal energy.
Selecting a dynamic brake
The process of choosing the correct dynamic brake chopper and resistors requires some knowledge of the electrical (motor) and mechanical (load) characteristics. The amount of energy present, speed changes required, system inertia present, the performance requirements and other factors must all be considered. Duty cycle or the ratio of "on " time to "off" time can play a critical role in resistor selection. Resistors have fixed thermal characteristics, which dictate energy-versus-time trade-offs. The typical resistor can dissipate a relatively large amount of energy for a short time or a low amount of energy for a long time; the current vs. time value remains relatively constant. Therefore, a high duty cycle (frequent braking) requires either a very large resistor bank or a limit on the amount of braking energy. A high amount of braking requires either a very large resistor or very infrequent use (low duty cycle).


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Full article http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...737507793.htmlAssad blames 'conspirators' for Syria unrest
Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian president, has blamed "conspirators" for two weeks of anti-government protests that have rocked the nation.
In his first address to the nation since the start of a violent crackdown on the protests, Assad said Syria was going through a "test of unity".
"I belong to the Syrian people, and whoever belongs to the Syrian people will always keep his head high," he said in the televised address before members of parliament in the capital, Damascus, on Wednesday.
"I know that the Syrian people have been awaiting this speech since last week, but I was waiting to get the full picture... to avoid giving an emotional address that would put the people at ease but have no real effect, at a time when our enemies are targeting Syria," he said.
Assad entered parliament to a mass of cheering crowds outside the building. Once inside, legislators chanted "God, Syria and Bashar only!'' and "our souls, our blood we sacrifice for you Bashar.''
He said "conspirators" have tried to reinforce sectarianism to incite hatred and "bring down Syria".
It seems he didn't publicly say who these "conspirators" are, but I wouldn't have been surprised if he would have blamed "zionists" or "West". Although Assad does seem more pragmatic than, say, Ahmadinejad (Syria is after all a secular muslim country) so his rhetoric is not as extreme.
My artificial intelligence says it's those darned juice, always has been.
Nope. Sunnis cant colloborate with Israel or vice versa . Why Israel wishes sunnis instead of Assad regime .
You are right . But all groups have no significance as much as sunni Araps . BTW Syrian Kurds have no citizenship rights and ID cards. they are kind of second class people in there and cant be MP or state offciers , no voting and election rights.A bit less simple, you also have Druze, Christians (including Assyrians), Kurds. It's a rather diverse place.
And Jews, though there are no Juice in the ME, all came from Europe
I'll go though: Juice are Juice and it's always their fault, for everything. [SIZE=1][*******White]<---- I'm joking[/COLOR][/SIZE]
I won't be surprised if I see Assad with a David Star on some euro protester placard.
Well the only country i feel sorry for in the Middle East is Israel. After all these internal conflicts within their neighbouring states it might shift towards Israel!
Alawites + other shiites make up about 13-15% of the population, christians about 10%, druze - 2-3% and sunni arabs and kurds about 73-75%


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Wright was listed as questionable on the injury report with a sore Achilles tendon, and was a limited participant in Friday's practice. E.J. Biggers and Leonard Johnson will be in line for playing time in Wright's absence, which should hurt an already poor Bucs pass defense that is ranked dead last in the NFL.
Wright, who signed with the Buccaneers as a free agent prior to the season, originally suffered the injury in October. and took a couple of hits directly to the injured area in the team's win over the Carolina Panthers last week.
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Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, January 23, 2014, 12:52 PM
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on Jan 23, 2014 at 1:54 pm
I wonder if it's these same three guys? Sounds like a similar description:
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on Jan 23, 2014 at 2:24 pm
Please hire an editor or proofreader who understands the difference between 'lie' and 'lay', understands that music does not soothe the savage 'beast', that home is not where the 'heart' is. While you're at it, have everyone look up the meaning of the phrase, "begs the question." It is almost always used incorrectly.
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Hmmm is a registered user.
Nick - their MO seems pretty different, and so is the area. PA Ave is densely populated, houses close together, compared to LAH. I do hope it's the same trio, as this video would be great evidence. Maybe the police will read this and the victims can review it, or once sketches are done, they can compare?
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on Jan 23, 2014 at 3:40 pm
Member: are you sure about lay vs. lie? You inspired me to google the topic. The past tense of lie is lay. So, since the sentence is "....made [them] lay." I think that's correct. The sentence is about the past. It describes events in the past. Made is the past tense of make. If what I read is correct, then "I make you lie..." and "I made you lay..."
Here is a good article on the topic
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on Jan 23, 2014 at 4:47 pm
rick is a registered user.
Sometimes I wonder. Breaking news story where some individual has an interest in curtailing discussion immediately? No quicker way to get a thread locked than multiple posts of ranting and profanity.
I'm sure this robbery has the full attention of law enforcement. Maybe those new license plate readers will prove their worth. Why was this particular residence targeted, simple bad luck, or something we can learn from?
on Jan 23, 2014 at 5:54 pm
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Ronnie, lie and lay are commonly misused words. The past tense of lie is indeed lay. But when you force someone to lie down, that's in the present. The event was in the past, but the verb tense is not.
Chickens lay eggs; people lie down.
Confused? I'll bet. Just remember the prayer, "Now I lay me down to sleep." It's old, it's cool, it's wrong.
Or Bob Dylan: "Lay lady lay " Great song. But wrong.
You can take heart if you wish because these language rules are fast disappearing. Soon there will be no grammatical, diction, or usage rights or wrongs.
Further consolation: In Shakespeare's time, these rules were not nearly so codified or rigid. Read up on Samuel Johnson and successors for more enlightenment.
on Jan 23, 2014 at 7:44 pm
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This story is very distressing. I don't presume to know the fear and worry that must have been in these poor homeowners hearts. I am thankful they were not harmed.
I don't suppose any of the neighbors had a video surveillance system in operation, did they? A lot of information can be gotten from even the grainiest and distant footage. Any clues would be good.
on Jan 23, 2014 at 9:33 pm
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it 's very disturbing to see and read
television and online reports
of the home invasion robbery of the elderly couple
on palo alto avenue ..
a friend of mine lives near them ..
someone i know
in the lower piedmont area of oakland
has had this happen to her more than once ..
i lived in palo alto during most of the 1970s ..
i 'm very surprised to hear of this happening ..
usually the east bay tends to have this type of crime ..
on Jan 23, 2014 at 11:17 pm
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Ronnie, Member is correct. The intransitive verb "lie" has practically disappeared from American English. Now, when someone uses it correctly in speech, I thank them. I don't go around correcting them, however I was going to comment to Sue that she change "lay" to "lie." A journalist should know the difference. You lay something (direct object) on the table; you lie down (no object). Lay is the past tense of lie: I lay in bed all morning watching TV. Laid is the past tense of lay: I laid the blanket on the bed. Don't get me started on emigrate and immigrate. I hate when commenters get off on tangents, but your post made me.
on Jan 24, 2014 at 12:01 am
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Retired teacher: I do not think "now I lay me down to sleep" is incorrect, at least as far as lie and lay are concerned. "me" is the direct object of lay. Technically, it would be "lay myself down," as the subject and object are the same entity. I'd be happy to work for Palo alto online/weekly as a copy editor. : )
on Jan 24, 2014 at 10:23 am
carl in berkeley is a registered user.
why the discussion of
semantics? .. grammar? .. spelling? ..
when the focus should be
on the elderly couple
who had their home invaded
and their safety and lives put at risk? ..
i hope you academics
do n't try to correct
the speech and grammar
of perpetrators
if they ever invade your home ..
on Jan 24, 2014 at 10:46 am
Retired Teacher is a registered user.
Chris C, you're right about the reflexive--I stand corrected. You are clearly qualified to be a copy editor for the Weekly. Just between you and I, and irregardless of the changing grammatical landscape, theres still much work to be done, perhaps starting with it's and its. But dont spend all the money youll urn in one place.
Carl in Berkeley, maybe we're just trying to distract ourselves from this unsettling story. And you have a good point about not arguing fine points of grammar and usage with home invaders, who are now armed with an additional handgun, for which they've probably been able to find ammunition. Remember to check who's knocking at your door, although they sound like people who might well kick the door in if you didn't make entry easy for them.
Meanwhile, let's thank the good Lord that no one was injured, at least not physically.
on Jan 24, 2014 at 12:39 pm
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This is horrible, and must have been terrifying for the couple. I hope the men are caught, and soon. It's sad and more than a bit sickening that's it's no longer safe to open the front door.
on Jan 26, 2014 at 9:44 pm
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I hope that they catch these thugs and do something to them that will cause them to: A.) Stop taking something that they didn't work for; B.) Understand that only fools are "thugs;" and, C.) They are an utter shame to their families, friends and the human race.
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So what was the problem? It made to big a dent on the primer? What can happen from that. I have never heard of that kind of problem.
Any Taurus 1911 owners may wanna check out this thread...
The guy had another thread on that site when he first noticed the problem before getting the replacement. Ya may wanna check your brass after U fired it to make sure U are okay.
So what was the problem? It made to big a dent on the primer? What can happen from that. I have never heard of that kind of problem.
In his last post about it - he stated something about the headspace being off and that the primers were bulging out too much. I assume his concern is a case failure around the primer.
I happened across this post again today, and thought someone may find it of use. U'd have to go there and look for his past posts if U wanted his very detailed explanation...
Oh ok. I see the problem
Just checked all my fired brass from my PT1911...........smooth, and straight primers.
Couldve been a problem, glad he caught it in time.
I saw this on another board too. So, maybe be a somewhat consistent issue with the Taurus...
No..........I dont think so.
In major mass-produced firearms, like Glock, Kimber, S&W etc you will see a small string of defects on a certain batch.
Hopefully, most that have bought this pistol will notice the problem and send it in.
Since the net has dominated over what works and doesnt, any negative publicity will do major harm for awhile.
Instance:........Anybody here own a Glock 22 in 40S&W?........What are they known for? KB's.
Now everytime you hear "Glock", you think ka-booms...............a few bad eggs goes a long ways on the net these days.......
When Taurus does a recall, then we got a problem..............
Let me ask you this Shipwreck............Do you own a PT1911 also?
This is true - but it is an issue I've never seen discussed before. So, its significant enough to wonder about. Out of all the complaints I have seen on all the firearms I read about - to me, this one is a new one....
All the kabooms are typically from bad reloads or wornout brass being use or lead ammo. That is a slight difference...
I haven't done the research to confirm it, but the fellow who was complaining about the primer/firing pin problem may have posted about it in several places.
For the record, my PT1911 shows no such problem.
I have read on one site that this could be caused by a weak firing pin spring, check out the link. http://forum.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=163279


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