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World Cup: USA Buries Scotland, 435-1
TORONTO, CA -- After pounding New Zealand 377-8 on Thursday, Team USA got even closer to a shutout win against Scotland today, steamrolling the overmatched Scots by a final of 435-1.
Team USA scored 50 unanswered points in the first five minutes in spite of some good defence work from the likes of Crazylegs and Wild Oates, setting the tone for the bout. A powerjam 8 minutes in when Shenita Stretcher was boxed on a major back block gave Scotland a scoring opportunity, but strong defence from Joy Collision and De Ranged stopped Moxie Emerald from breaking the pack before Shenita was released. Shenita then picked up three points before being boxed again following a tough fight with Crazylegs, but Moxie still couldn't get past the American walls.
Fight Cub started unopposed but was dominated by Sexy Slaydie until Shenita escaped from the box--and then Shenita promptly passed the star to DeRanged, who laid down another 20 points with Fight Cub still stuck, leaving the score at 97-0 with 8 minutes left in the first half.
Suzy Hotrod, Joy Collision, Bonnie Thunders and Tannibal Lector all put more points on the board as the clock ticked towards half time -- but the biggest cheer of the first half came right at the death when Moxxie Emerald broke the pack for the first time just as the half ended, 191-0.
Urrk'n started the second half puttng 25 points on the board in an opening powerjam. After a number of dominant jams, the USA then put the hammer down with a sequence of very high-scoring jams. A 30 point jam for Bonnie Thunders and a 40-pointer for Jukebox moved the US to a 286-0 lead with 13:12 on the clock, as the Scots showed plenty of heart but no hint of curtailing the US scoring rate. More big jams for Joy Collision and Urrk'n Jerk'n saw 70 more points hit the scoreboard over the next five minutes -- but with 7 minutes to go the Marla Mayhem broke the pack to rapturous applause despite the 364-0 scoreline.
Juska was boxed for the USA in the very next jam--but hardly had a chance to sit down before Scotland's star blocker Wild Oates got boxed herself on her first time out as jammer. Oates then snuck out of the box, broke the pack almost immediately, and put Scotland's first point on the board with a little over four minutes left in the bout, leaving the score at 386-1. 30 points for Frida Beater snuffed out dreams of a dramatic Scotland comeback in the very next jam though. De Ranged took the star as the game ticked into its last two minutes, taking the US into a 426-1 lead, calling it with 32 seconds left on the period clock.
Urrk'n lined up unopposed for the final jam and notched up nine points before Clinically Wasted broke the pack to force Urrk'n into a call to leave the final score at 435-1.
The massive score margin ended up being greatly responsible for both USA's seeding at #1 in the elimination rounds and Scotland taking the lowest seed at 13. Scotland will play 4 seed Australia at 5:30pm Friday, while USA plays the winner of Germany / New Zealand at 1:30pm Saturday.
Team USA's roster for this one was DeRanged, Juke Boxx, Suzy Hotrod, Frida Beater, Sexy Slaydie, Heather Juska, Varla Vendetta, Joy Collision, Urrkn' Jerkn' as Booty Blockya, Tannibal Lector, White Flight (skating as Brittney Mathews), Shenita Stretcher, Psycho Babble and Bonnie Thunders (skating as Nicole Williams).
How long has Scotland had
How long has Scotland had roller derby?
2007/2008 I believe
2007/2008 I believe
Donna Mathews?
There are certainly enough Donnas on Team USA, between the 3 Cosa Nostra Donnas, Teflon Donna, and Donna Matrix. But I think White Flight is skating as Brittney Mathews, not Donna Mathews.
Brain cells. None left.
Somehow, I confused a Rose City jammer with the lead guitarist of Elastica. Totally sorry about that.
White flight skating as
Thanks Todd. My name is in fact Brittney Mathews
Is the 40-point jam the highest so far?
Is Juke Boxx' 40-point jam the highest in the World Cup so far? If so, would you call it a world record (since this is the first WORLD cup)?
Not the only 40 pointer
There was also a 40-0 jam for Canada's Killson in the Canada / Brazil game.
White Flight! Or this
White Flight! Or this supposed "Brittney Mathews" person. Either way, she kicks ass!
Running up the score
When is this unsportsmanlike practice going to end in roller derby?
Get your scoring pass and call it off. Is a 40 point jam necessary in a 300 point game?
Point margins mattered more than usual.
When is this unsportsmanlike practice going to end in roller derby?
Get your scoring pass and call it off. Is a 40 point jam necessary in a 300 point game?
In this tournament, yes. Remember that point margin was the tiebreaker for the seeding in the elimination rounds.
USA could have been as low as #3 seed if they'd just settled for 5-0 jam wins, considering two of the other undefeated teams in the round robin were Canada with scores of 408-7, 244-17, and 196-26 and England with scores of 273-31 and 199-64.
Unless my math is wrong, they
Unless my math is wrong, they only needed to win by 162 points to ensure the #1 seed. I'm pretty sure there was zero chance of dipping below that mark in the second half even with all 5-0 jams.
Except they couldn't have known that yet.
Argentina / England and Brazil / Canada both happened after Scotland / USA. All they could have known was that the more points they scored the more likely they were to be top seed.
Oops, reading scores the wrong way
Eh, whatever. Either way, they would've been the #1 seed. Even if they tied the second half, Canada would have had to win by like 450 points and England would to have won by 425.
I'll concede this one game. However, the grander point is still there. When are roller derby teams going to stop running up the score?
And then...
World Cup: (2) Canada Squashes (10) Finland, 499-31
when pigs fly
In tournament play, you assert yourself. In ANY sport. In a tournament, your capability goes on record, and teams are expected to play to the best of their ability.
She doesn't look unhappy:
It is true
that most female roller derby skaters are not sportsmen. At all.
Snarky reply for snarky reply
The teams that play in this
The teams that play in this World Cup know they will lose big from the top tree. Those can show respect and play their best game or show mercy and hold back. The losing teams are not humiliated since they knew in advance how big the difference is. Playing a team that shows mercy, that's humiliation.
It's the first time teams play on national teams. I'm pretty sure in the future there will be less blowouts. But for now that's part of the growing of the sport.
I'm pretty sure the skaters don't mind. They all know they are part of history in the making.
It's unsportsmanlike in every
It's unsportsmanlike in every other sport in the world. What makes derby different?
And, I'm hardly talking about just this tournament.
You also have blowouts in
You also have blowouts in other sports. Holding back to show mercy is not done in any sport i know. Some of the results of the last world cup rugby:
New Zealand 83 - 7 Japan
New Zealand 79 - 15 Canada
England 67 - 3 Romania
South Africa 87 - 0 Namibia
Wales 81 - 7 Namibia
Wales 66 - 0 Fij
Big difference is that there are about hundred countries in rugby that played interland games and have a ranking. Only 20 passed the qualification rounds that allowed them to be present. So only the top 20% was in the world cup. In roller derby we managed to get 13 teams to Toronto, no qualifications, if you can set up a team you're in. When you have the luxury to select, there are more evenly matched games, since you don't have the weakest and the strongest in the same tournament.
Not talking about blowouts
Blowouts happen. It's a fact of sports. However, there's a difference between blowing out a team because you're far superior and continuing to go for multiple scoring passes in a game that was decided 10 minutes into it for no discernible reason whatsoever.
Please share
In what other sports do players/teams hold back?
I'm in agreement with the above posters. If someone is intentionally holding back against a team they are beating, that is taunting and teasing and THAT is unsportsmanlike. Giving a team your A game tells them you respect them and they deserve your best.
Apparently I live in a different universe. Taunting and teasing? Disrespectful?
Football. They pull starters and start running between the tackles at about a 4 touchdown lead. They'll take a knee in the closing minute even if they're at the one yard line.
Basketball. They pull starters once the game is out of hand and slow the tempo. They'll dribble the ball around and not go for a score in the final seconds.
There's the mercy rule in high school and youth sports.
Just for a few examples. If you've never seen a team try to avoid running up the score, I honestly don't know what to say.
REALLY really..
Blowouts happen. It's a fact of sports. However, there's a difference between blowing out a team because you're far superior and continuing to go for multiple scoring passes in a game that was decided 10 minutes into it for no discernible reason whatsoever.
Apparently I live in a different universe. Taunting and teasing? Disrespectful?
Football. They pull starters and start running between the tackles at about a 4 touchdown lead. They'll take a knee in the closing minute even if they're at the one yard line.
Basketball. They pull starters once the game is out of hand and slow the tempo. They'll dribble the ball around and not go for a score in the final seconds.
There's the mercy rule in high school and youth sports.
Just for a few examples. If you've never seen a team try to avoid running up the score, I honestly don't know what to say.
As for no discernible reason for going for more points... the points spread is part of what determined the seedings. So there is definitely the point.
If you are not good enuf, either don't play, or play and have fun with it (as they all are).
Mercy rule and participation ribbons be damned.. Work for it or don't get it.
As the last Canadian Game, why did they keep scoring and keep passing, even though it was obvious that they were going to win .. because getting 500 points if fricken exciting, thats why.
I have yet to see the losers of a blowout game go on about wanting the opposing team to lighten up on them. Most are in the same realm of thinking, You do your best, i'll do mine. You don't go into a hardcore sport for people to take it easy on you. It's a kin to letting you win, and no one i know enjoys that feeling.
cause it would be insulting
I've been bested in derby by some of the best- Texas, Philly, Atlanta, Carolina...and not one time did I feel sorry for myself, or my team. Nor did they ever concede.
The first IL game I ever played, an opposing skater offered a whip- and I told her if she wanted to help me, she should just beat me.
I think most DERBY PLAYERS feel the same. You know going in what you're up against- and it is in those moments that teams set a personal goal, one higher than win or lose, to develop themselves and their team, and to forge their team work and trust in each other in steel.
Taking a knee in the closing minute, dribbling a ball around without trying- I can't think of anything that would humiliate me or break my heart more than being treated that way.
These women are not in youth sports- and they don't wear their hearts on their sleeves. I would never dishonor another player in the way you mention. There are subtle ways to be fair- not taking an opp for a vicious hit, perhaps- but what you're suggesting would embarrass those players and rob them of something they've worked hard for.
I'd give anything to be on Team USA- and I'd give just as much to be the only person in a game to score one point against them.
You may have missed this,
You may have missed this, but:
Pay attention to the part where Wild Oates says "That was the most fun I've ever had in my life..." after losing 435-1.
And from the past...
"If you're going to get stomped, it's good to be stomped by the best."
Attributed to Militia of Carolina Rollergirls after losing to the Texecutioners 177-65 at the 2006 Dust Devil. From "Rollergirl," by Melissa Joulwan.
I'll admit it
I just completely made up the term "running up the score." It doesn't exist in any other sport. It is not considered unsportsmanlike and, in fact, the opposite is true.
This sport should follow North American standards and sportMANlikeship'ness...NoT! Play it out, learn to get better...then come back and kick some ass. This ain't your Aunt Connie's roller derby or your Unkle Chuck's football.
"The term and concept are not common elsewhere in the world."-D'uh?!?!
Calling off the jam
If USA were to call of the jam after one pass (when the opposing jammer was still stuck in the pack), what would that teach about strategy? I feel that a lot of people are looking to USA to learn and USA should set the standard. This also goes for the other teams that had a high point differential.
I know for a fact that many of these countries learn from footage or you tube videos. I would like them to understand why and when to call it off. I would hope that they would not call off the jam after one pass if the opposing jammer is still stuck in the pack.
We are watching you :)
Stick to your team strategy and call off the jam based on that because we are watching you and we are checking you out..."nek minit.... BOOM!!!" We got U!!! Hurhurhur...
You learn to improve by
You learn to improve by playing the best and I would have been gutted if Team USA hadn't put their all into that game. I'm so happy Scotland was given the chance to play against such AMAZING skaters.
America - F**k yeah!! :D x
(Also Juke Boxx is awesome. <3)
sorry dudes
There is such thing as running the score, and it is unsportswoman like. I don't care if so-and-so or such-and-such say they had fun getting stomped. Or if they say they learned a lot, or whatever. Maybe they did have a certain kind of fun (s&m fun), but they sure-as-shooting did not learn anything. How can you learn anything stuck behind a wall all day?
It may well be disrespectful to throw a game, but to put in second string players, relax the pace or intensity when you have an unbreakable lead is the very definition of sportsmanship. Like MercyLess said above, derby girls are not known for having that quality. Is this because the women of derby generally don't have a sports background? Or some other reason? I don't know. You also have to consider the risk of injury to both teams when there is a serious mis-match on the track.
Just another hurdle the sport has to overcome before it will be taken seriously by the mainstream sporting media. And that is the real tragedy.
How can you learn anything
How can you learn anything stuck behind a wall all day?
I bet you learn how to make a really good wall! I'd take the opposite view and say "How can you learn to get through a good wall if you've never been stuck behind one all day?"
Also, tomorrow is going to be awesome.
your logic is flawed, sir
just because i sit around and eat cake all day, does not make me a baker
there has to be a proactive component
speaking of flawed logic
just because i sit around and eat cake all day, does not make me a baker
there has to be a proactive component
I dunno,, if we are going to do a cake analogy.. We may as well make it make sense
If i was stuck in a kitchen and had no choice but to watch a baker, bake cakes, all day, over and over. There is a pretty good chance that i would figure out how to then, bake a cake.
Just sayin..
Watching how they move to stay in your way , regardless of what you do. Watching their reactions to the moves you make = learning
good point
but what if the baker didn't just let you sit there and watch, but rather was throwing flour in your face all day, knocking you to the floor, and then letting other bakers make all kinds of other pastries, while knocking you around splashing hot butter on you....wait, let's get out of the bakery, gross
anyway, you can't learn watchmaking if the watchmaker is hitting you with his elbows....
but what if the baker didn't just let you sit there and watch, but rather was throwing flour in your face all day, knocking you to the floor, and then letting other bakers make all kinds of other pastries, while knocking you around splashing hot butter on you....wait, let's get out of the bakery, gross
anyway, you can't learn watchmaking if the watchmaker is hitting you with his elbows....
This is absurd. We're all talking about a contact sport and you're using violent imagery out of context to hyperbolicly make your point. You might as well compare the difficulty of medical school with being disemboweled in a tea house.
The skill discrepancy isn't as unfair as it looks. Most of Team USA has been playing competitively for 5-7 years, if not skating their whole lives. If they weren't a world better than people who have only been skating for 2 or 3 years it would be pretty pathetic on their part. Pride aside, don't you think you'd feel cheated if you spent thousands of dollars to play against a semi-pro who took it easy and kept her skills to herself?
holding skaters back
It holds skaters back when you try to protect them from the derby they've prescribed themselves to play.
You say tomato..
OK, so maybe in your country going easy on another team is the "done thing", in mine it's a sign of disrespect.
Evey time another team scores against the US it is a real achievement - The crown goes wild, the girl who has done so is a hero. This is much more so because everyone knows that no quarter has been given. Slow down the pace, swap out the playes, and that effort loses it's legitmacy and meaning.
Personally, when New Zealand first scored against the US, I was cheering so loud I'm surprised the Neighbours didn't call the police! It'll be even better when the Aussies start scoring - because we know that when our girls score those points they truely deserve it.
I can understand your perspective in that you hate to see such a large difference in points, but artificially engineering the result of the game to be closer is not appreciated by anyone - and in a sport that is trying to distance itself from the "WWE style" days of the past it can only do harm.
Mismatches and injuries
I don't know. You also have to consider the risk of injury to both teams when there is a serious mis-match on the track.
I don't completely disagree with your main point (though I don't totally agree with it either) but I have heard this specific argument before and I have to express my extreme disagreement with it. There is a WAY higher chance of injury in a game between two inexperienced teams than there is in a game between an inexperienced team and an extremely experienced team.
2nd String???
put in second string players
Have you looked at the USA roster?!? They could bench the entire 20 skater roster and still have the best team in the world with the 8 skaters that only played in the exhibition. Hell, bench them too. I'll take a team made up of the six alternates and feel pretty confident against any of the teams the US has played so far. Just sayin I don't think there is a "second string" on this team.
And FWIW, when the score didn't matter (now that they're in the bracket), they actually did start calling off jams early. Personally, I think it was less entertaining for everyone involved. Would be interesting to hear how NZ felt about it since they played them in both rounds of the tourney.
Still, I think the biggest thing to look at is how the losing teams have reacted in these blowouts. Finland was absolutely in love with Canada today after giving up 499 points to them! If the losing team is happy, there is ZERO issue with sportsmanship IMHO.
4th string
I'll even go so far as to one-up you, Dave. Bench the entire 20 skater roster AND the 8 skaters that only played in the exhibition AND the 6 alternates. Play with only the coaches, the team doctor, Bane-ana the mascot, and the official photographer. OK, on second thought, that's just silly. NEVERMIND!
talk about unfair...
Plus that's not very fair to the team USA skaters. I mean, they're not good by magic, they're good becasue they work hard, and have for years. "Hey you, you work too hard, you're too good, go warm the bench." WTF? Are they not people too? Did they not also shell out cash for the honor of representing their country doing what they love, just like everyone else? Or are Derby goddesses immune to feelings? Do they not deserve to play just as much as everyone else?
we have a winner!
Dahmer, that's just silly.
how many games did these chicks skate in this weekend?
3 full length games, 2 shortened bouts, and a scrimmage, which is pretty standard, if not on the short side, for a 4 day tournament.
All I'm saying is, people are so accustomed to defending the underdog we sometimes go too far and are unfair to good players.
Maybe because i look at this the wrong way in general, but i would think, being unsportsmanlike.. would be stomping someone and then being a douche about it. But if you are playing the sport, as you would play against any other team.. How is that unsportsmanlike? Makes no sense.. I should concede because i am better or more experienced?
Safety of the players and injury and what not is on the team accepting the challenge or organizers putting on an event (ei don't let severely different levels of players in the same tournament, or if you are worried about getting hurt by a better (or worse) team.. don't play.
But to ask people to half ass it because they are doing well.... again O_o
2nd string players, no learning and injuries?!?! What the?!?!
Lacy Underalls, NZ didnt go all that way to play 2nd string players, we sent our best therefore we expect to play the best. We at home have learnt more from playing the US team then watching the WFTDA championships and our team will bring all their new learning home to us. Injuries happen no matter what, experienced or inexperienced and its those injuries in our sport which teach us what not to do. Im not sure what sport u play but at this level u bring the best, u play betta then ur best cos next time we meet you it wont just be our haka that blows you away, it will be the fact that we scored sooner, faster and hopefully gain more points on ya. AND the bonus would just be to get a chance to pin any of the USA, Canada, England team members behind our walls, AUE!! HE!!
Logic backwards
If education is the reasoning behind running up the score, I think that logic is a little backwards.
What's there to learn from being in the exact same game situation over and over and over again? There's nothing. They got that learning done in the first half. However, the more jams there are, the more chances they have to learn about the most important aspect of the game (the initial pass) and the more chances they have of gaining lead jammer and working on that aspect of the game against the best players in the world. Calling a jam at 5-0, in my opinion, would give the losing team a much better learning experience because it means MORE jams and MORE opportunities for lead.
Also, let's not get words twisted. Skaters on the track should ALWAYS be skating at 100% for both teams. At some point, though, the offensive strategy should turn off.
However, if a teams says "don't go easy on us." Fine. Open up the floodgates. But, I don't think that should be the assumption or the rule.
The USA was calling jams before they needed to today, were they being disrespectful?
Your description sounds like you think the US team should be running clinics once they get a big enough lead. And dictating which lessons they want the other team to learn.
You know what's a more important lesson to learn, and one that can only be taught in a bout environment? Seeing what your opponent's game is and attempting to disrupt it and/or redirect them to play your game. If the US were to change their game, then they would be denying their opponent's that learning opportunity.
This is the FIRST MAJOR international bout
Seeing what your opponent's game is and attempting to disrupt it and/or redirect them to play your game. If the US were to change their game, then they would be denying their opponent's that learning opportunity.
THANK YOU N8!! This is the first international bout!!! Maybe after a few more i would understand Chucky's and Lacey's comments but NaH!!! We need big points to set the seeding otherwise we will never know what we have to do to improve our position at each international meet.
I think its SAD that anyone would criticise their national team for playing too well. If the All Blacks dont give 100% and some they get hammered. And if other teams want to learn more, rather than hold clinics they employ the best ones to coach i.e.-Japan and John Kirwan.
I'd rather lose big knowing i played my best game against the best. Then next time its ON!! Roller Derby is still new for ALOT of us, stop jerking us off and let it roll. Come back in 6 years and reflect over that then.
Not the one making the education argument
Maybe you should read everyone else's comments. I was just responding to their comments because I thought THEIR logic was flawed. I don't really think education really has any merit in this whatsoever but that seemed to be one of the main reasons presented to run up the score.
I did
But I responded to why I thought your logic was flawed. Their comments were about why being on the losing side of those scores is not a bad place for the winning team to put the losing team. Your comments were about ways the winning team could change their play so as to attempt to help the losing team benefit from the game even more, but to me your attempts were actually going to hurt both teams, as well as the fans, and I attempted to point out why.
This is something that has been touched on by previous posters but I think it's worth reiterating: all the sports that have been cited as having "mercy rules" in this thread are North American (or at least largely based in that part of the world). As an English sports fan I had genuinely never heard the term before reading these posts.
What is seen as sports(wo)manship can differ from place to place. If American and Canadian fans see it as sporting to let up on a weaker opponent then that is entirely their prerogative and something for the rest of the derby community to bear in mind. However, let's take the nation of Scotland as an example. The two biggest team sports in Scotland (and many of the other nations in this cup) are football (soccer) and rugby, and neither of which have any culture of letting up on opponents in this way. You play to the end to score as many points, goals, whatever, as you can. I can guarantee that players from the European and ANZAC nations would be much more likely to feel they were victims of unsporting conduct if the top tier of teams was letting up on them.
At the end of the day Planet Derby is still getting to know its inhabitants. It's an exciting time for all of us! :D
"safe" margin? + this is a tournament
We play a sport where 40pts can be scored in less than 2 minutes. So being down by 100 can be erased in less than 3 jams/7 minutes. At what point would you say a lead is "safe"?
It's not inherently unsportsmanlike
I've never heard of the idea of "running up the score" and its being seen as unsportsmanlike. Of course, I have never played or followed organised team sports before derby, so that probably explains why (I am American, though I live and skate in London).
As I've never been aware of this idea before, I can comment on it only based on the Wikipedia page that thebigchuckbowski posted. But that page specifically says that the concept is limited to Canada and the US and doesn't exist in other parts of the world. Judging by the description, I'd also imagine this would be something that girls would be less likely to be exposed to due to girls having less experience competing in team sports growing up. Add in the fact that derby does attract some skaters who haven't played team sports growing up, it's not surprising that most don't have this idea of running up the score being unsportsmanlike.
There's also the issue that we are all still learning derby--even Team USA and the world's top leagues. The sport is still evolving. And it's still hard for skaters outside the US to be exposed to the current top level of play. Experience is incredibly important to skaters in derby, more so than in sports that have been around ages and that people have grown up knowing how to play. We can watch streams of games, but it's not the same as being on the track with experienced leagues. Given that, when teams and skaters from outside the US do get the incredibly rare opportunity to learn in person by going up against the world's best skaters, why would any of them want those teams/skaters to show anything but their best? It would be a waste of an amazing opportunity.
So is it unsportsmanlike to run up the score in derby? I don't think so. Running up the score is not inherently unsportsmanlike; it is so only in the cultures in which it has been agreed that it is. In other words, it's not objectively unsportsmanlike; it's unsportsmanlike to run up the score in a situation in which there is an understanding that it is, because to do so is to break an agreement. Personally, I don't see the reasoning behind avoiding running up the score. Is the losing team supposed to feel better just because of the scoreline? They still know the winning team was better than them; the winning team taking it easy and not playing the game (dribbling around and not taking available shots is not playing the game of basketball) doesn't make that any less obvious. So I really don't see the point.
And it seems most other rollergirls don't see the point either. I've actually never heard a team on the receiving end of a blowout complain about the winning team continuting to give their best to the end (in inter-league play; intra-league can have different expectations). If the culture of roller derby is such that "running up the score" is not unsportsmanlike, then it's not unsportsmanlike. There's no reason derby has to do what some other North American sports do.
I agree with this
If roller derby wants to decide as a culture to always run up the score then that's fine. But, considering people have no clue what that term means, I hardly think that there's actively been a consensus reached.
You point out that teams around the world wouldn't culturally know what it means or would have different expectations. However, the the only two teams that really can run up scores are USA and Canada and the games are being played in Canada. Culturally, those are the teams that you would expect to avoid running up the score.
And, again, I ask. Team USA called jams off early yesterday. Was that disrespectful, rude, or unsportsmanlike? Did they rob New Zealand and the rest of the world of a great learning opportunity? They purposely avoid running up the score yesterday. So, everyone trying to argue with me should be arguing against Team USA and nobody is (I would have liked to see them end jams at 5-0 instead of 10-0 but that's not really the point).
I don't need to argue against the US
I never said I think it's unsportsmanlike, disrespectful, or rude to call jams early or put on "weaker" players when ahead by a lot. I said only that I don't think that it's unsportsmanlike to continue playing your strongest game. That doesn't imply that I think that's the only way a strong team should go about things. Different situations may lead to different choices, and I see no problem with that.
I haven't watched any of the US games yet, so don't know what they've done within them and can't comment on it.
I also didn't suggest there was an active consensus on "running up the score", just that based on actions and post-game reactions, it appears that most rollergirls don't consider it to be unsportsmanlike. In that I mean to include all those who have never heard of the idea, and therefore have never actively rejected it but also have never considered adopting it. And if that's the case, why try to impose what some North American male-dominated sports have decided about it onto roller derby? You asked earlier why derby is different, but I counter by asking why derby should be the same. Is there any reason to think that is the right way?
It's also worth considering...
... that there has probably been an element of mind games between the USA, Canada and (to an extent...) England during the early stages of the tournament as well. The power teams will have wanted to rack up some big scores to try to gain a psychological advantage over each other going into the business end of the tournament. Even if we accept that running up the score for no reason is inherently unsportsmanlike (which I and it seems most posters on here don't at all, but stay with me on this...), surely we can't criticise teams for running up the score for a (more or less) legitimate sporting reason? Canada's win last night gave them the highest winning margin of the tournament so far, and if that fact gives even an infinitesimally small boost to their state of mind in the final day's play then I don't seem how anyone could begrudge them it.
think of the fans!
Speaking from the perspective of fans,( being a volunteer who has collected thousands of fan surveys and being one myself) not playing, or playing in a boring manner just because you know that you are going to win is maddening. These people paid money to watch Derby, and the best way to give them their money's worth is to actually do so. If I were an athlete active in Derby and I were losing, I'd feel insulted, taunted, and mocked if the other team "took it easy" on me. That's pretty much wordlessly saying that the losing team is not worthy of the winning team's actual play style. I see that as disrespect and douchebaggery, which is far more unsportswomanlike than running up the score. This isn't elementary schools field day, it's Derby.
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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I don't think that it's unsportsmanlike to continue playing your strongest game
I'd feel insulted, taunted, and mocked if the other team "took it easy" on me.
Derby is not like other sports. Thats what attracted me/us in the first place. The thrill we got when we got from seeing our first game came from its uniqueness, the names, the DIY nature etc. It broke rules of traditional sport. It was a blend of sport, camp, fashion, art. AND it was FUN. Not to mention how accessible it was. In that it allowed women everywhere to participate. They went home and started their own team/league even if they lived in the middle of nowhere. It grew from one game in Austin. To a game with hundreds of teams around the world. To now a world cup tournament in just a few short years.
The difference this game was created by women.
Women blow kisses men talk Sh*t. I've seen women jammers on the track losing by 170 points blowing kisses to the crowd. I've seen mens teams lose by 12 points and do nothing but bad mouth the winning team. The best thing is to stop trying to change it to make it look like other sports. Lopsided wins is part of the game and that uniqueness. The only opinion that matters in a lopsided game is the opinion of the losers. Why don't we settle down and let the women show us what love of the game and sports(wo)manship really means.
Moreover, there is recent push to change it to look like other sports and make it palatable to the mainstream. The business of changing the rules to prevent lopsided wins, the discussion of losing the names to make it marketable are just a couple of the issues that come to mind. You start changing its uniqueness of this game and you change it from the game we love into some sanitized version which may not have the same appeal.
The best anyone can do is leave it alone.
Running up the score is a concept that exists -- in the United States it's found primarily in youth soccer leagues where a margin of victory that is too big makes the little kids feel badly. These are grown women, world-class athletes and it's patronizing to think that they need to have their feelings protected.
Coming into the World Cup, we all knew the U.S. was the likely dominant team. They deserve that spot - and they also deserve to hold records that won't be broken anytime soon. The gap will narrow as other countries develop their leagues and competition becomes more level in the coming years. It's inevitable. For now, I was content to look at the smiles on the skater's faces as this tournament came to a close. This has been good for everyone - and most of all for the sport we all love.


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The Welsh Education Minister was wrong.
We now have the ridiculous situation where 2 students can have sat the same exam, got the same mark, but obtained different grades.
We have a situation where Welsh student have been treated more favourably than English. This sounds good for the Welsh students until one realises that this undermines and cheapens their qualifications in the eyes of the rest of the world.
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PontyPeter wrote:Do you think Clegg was right when he said this?:
Interesting that the 3 posters above can only manage to attack the person/party, and not the message. They give no good reason WHY the papers should have been remarked, other than it appeals to their petty politics.
''I know what they say but I don't think it's right for politicians to be interfering in an independent exam system," he said.
Whilst naive Cleggy is lauding the Independent Exam system Michael Gove the Education Secretary over at the Education Department was interfering up to his eyeballs to move the goalposts for the GCSE exams without warning which disadvantaged kids across the board. Clegg knows this but instead of standing up for the kids who had their dreams wrecked he decides to attack Wales for not playing along with Gove's dirty tricks. No doubt come election time when Clegg takes off his Tory clothes and puts on his LD ones he will apologise (yet again) to the parents for not speaking out at the time. Every time I see Clegg on TV and his lips are moving I think he must be lying.
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Backpacker Magazine – June 2008
On your mark, get set ... hike. Inside a 5,600-mile footrace on the country's hardest trail.
ON A WARM NEW MEXICO MORNING last fall, Garret "the Onion" Christensen pulled up his socks, threw his green ULA Equipment pack onto his back, and prepared for a bizarrely long and arduous sprint. In front of him lay gravelly County Road 603, and beyond that half a state's worth of rough hiking, including high-desert bushwhacking, countless river crossings, and the punishing Gila Wilderness. Formidable stuff for just about anyone else. But the Onion, an ultra-distance backpacker who measures his treks in the thousands of miles, knew he'd hit this journey's homestretch. Good thing, given what was at stake. Without a minute to lose, he tugged on the brim of his blaze-orange baseball cap, faced south, and broke into a businesslike, three-mile-per-hour walk.
The Onion, who had years earlier nicknamed himself after the satirical newspaper, had reason to believe that he could become the first person to complete a roundtrip hike of the Continental Divide Trail. The attempt was over the top: a 5,600-mile journey, north from the bottom of New Mexico, following a tortuous path to the top of Montana–and then back again. But vast distances, snow-choked passes, and a labyrinth of trails weren't the only obstacles between the Onion and the record. Another guy was simultaneously attempting the same epic trek. Francis "Mr. Magoo" Tapon was also in New Mexico, ahead of the Onion but still 150 miles short of the finish. The 37-year-old Magoo was a strong hiker, too, and yet over the previous five months he'd consistently lost ground to the trail-Hoovering, 28-year-old Christensen. The face-off was crazy enough to be worthy of a story in The Onion itself. One could imagine the spinny headline: "Magoo Dices Onion at Border!"
Ladridi's comment is understandable given the angle the writer took. Ladridi is correct that I took a job at a startup a few months after finishing the trail; however, it was a part-time, unpaid position, which I did more to help out a friend rather than to make money. If I'm a capitalist, I'm a lousy one.
I encourage those who came away with some negative feelings about the article to read my response to the article here:
I appreciate that Backpacker Magazine was fair and printed my short letter after this article came out. Unfortunately, the letter is not on the web, please view that link if you'd like to hear my take on the article. Thank you!
Happy trails,
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I finally had time to read this well-written article. I just finished the CDT and it's hard to believe any yo-yoed that trail! An amazing accomplishment and adventure for both of them.
"He had hit the trail for the reasons many of us seek wilderness: to quiet his mind and spirit. He had recently left the Mormon Church and had taken leave from a PhD program; he was troubled by unresolved feelings about God and his future. Magoo, likewise, was motivated by a higher quest: He was a successful MBA who had chucked the corporate world for a dream of turning hiking and adventure into money."
I may be the only one, but I don't think that a dream of turning hiking into money is a "higher quest". When you trade one money-making opportunity (corporate job) for another moneymaking opportunity (hiking/travel books), I fail to see the "higher" status of the latter. He is a capitalist, plain and simple, who simply decided he'd rather be his own boss and figured that notoriety was his currency. (Nevermind that he took a job from a startup after he finished the trip.) Calling that a higher quest is insulting to the people who actually view hiking as its own reward instead of a commodity to be mined and then spent. While I know that there are a number of distance hiking enthusiasts who have turned their passions into profits, I suspect that most if not all of them would view the hiking as the higher quest, not the business.
How do these ppl afford to do this? Don't they have mortgages and bills to pay?
How about that. When I read the article there were two negative comments directed at the writer and one positive which was directed at the hikers. Go the positive guy.
A well written article, very enjoyable.
One question, though. Does Backpacker online really need to simulate the epic journey by spreading this out over 14 pages?
The Onion is a stud! and just because he didn't do it first he did it the quicker and did it for the right reason, himself! Over all the artical was great and kudos on getting the word out and giving praise wear it's due!
Congrats to both hikers. Amazing.
A strong ethos in long distance hiking is "hike your own hike". For Tapon, this meant hike on the trail, and add some extra peak bagging. For the Onion, this meant hike any route in the general area of the Divide, including roads that shaved off elevation and distance. Both valid hikes, just different.
This article would have done better by celebrating both hikers success. "Don't count anyone your friend who tries to clip your wings."


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But lately goals have been especially hard to come by. It's a trend Plattsburgh State is trying to change as it begins the SUNY Athletic Conference men's hockey playoffs.
"Some people think it's puck luck. I'm a believer in you make your own breaks," Plattsburgh coach Bob Emery said. "I tell the team all the time, the only thing they can control is their self-discipline and their hard work.
"We gotta go out there and control our hard work and self-discipline and see where that takes us."
The second-seeded Cardinals (17-4-4) host third-seeded Buffalo State in a semifinal tonight. Fredonia meets Oswego in the other game, and the highest remaining seed will host next week's championship game.
The Bengals (13-11-2) beat Plattsburgh early in the season and lost at Stafford Ice Arena three weeks ago despite holding the Cardinals to one goal.
Low-scoring games like that have been the norm for the Cardinals recently. In the last three weeks, they've tallied just 11 goals in six games. They lost two of those and eked out one-goal victories in the others, including two in overtime.
Their season average is 3.36 goals per game, which puts them tied for 28th in Division III. Plattsburgh is ranked fourth in the USCHO.com Division III Men's Poll, and the rest of the top-five teams are all in the top 15 in the country in scoring offense.
The Cardinals have been creating chances — they had 52 shots on net in last Saturday's 3-2 overtime win at Cortland — and forward Nick Jensen said they just need to focus on putting them away. Emery changed the lineup in the last game, and they've been trying to crash the net more.
"We've been working in practice a little bit, scrumming in front of the net, scoring more goals," forward Mark Constantine said. "Learn to score more in practice and transfer (that) over into games, hopefully."
Constantine is one player who has struggled to score. After netting four goals in the first three games of the season, he didn't find the net again until last Saturday.
"It was frustrating, but the coaches and players kept me up, saying, 'Don't get too frustrated. They'll come.'
"I was on a slump for a little while, so it feels good to bury one and get the confidence up a little bit, hopefully keep it going."
Plattsburgh doesn't have anyone among the top 100 scorers in Division III. Kyle Kudroch leads the team with 21 points, including a team-high nine goals. Jensen has an 8-9-17 line, and Ryan Craig also has 17 points, but he missed the last two games with a hip pointer. Emery said Craig's availability this week would be a game-day decision.
While most of Plattsburgh's top scorers are on pace to match or surpass their point totals from last year, Emery said the sluggish offense is a combination of not having many natural goal-scorers to begin with and not getting as much production as they hoped from some players.
They finished second in the conference in part because of their balance.
"We have a lot of good hockey players," Emery said. "We have the most depth we've had here in a long time. We can put four lines out there any time in the game. So our job is, as coaches, to work with what we have. Not feel sorry for ourselves and not sit here and wish for things."
Jensen said without any superstars, the Cardinals know everyone needs to chip in.
"Everybody has their own thing that they have to do. Everyone has a role," Jensen said. "So everyone has to stick to what they know and what they're good to do, and then we all gotta contribute as a team."
Buffalo State features Second-Team All-SUNYAC goalie Kevin Carr, and Constantine said the Cardinals know it won't be easy to beat the Bengals. He said igniting the offense early would help.
"We've never been a very high-scoring team this whole year, really," he said. "But when we get them going ... we keep 'em going, it seems like, pretty well. So if we get a few quick, hopefully we can just keep it going the rest of the game."
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Nashville Police Sergeant Billy Smith spent much of his Saturday being a third eye for holiday shoppers.
He says during the holiday season, a lot of people fall victim to crime. Smith is just one of many Nashville officers sharing safety tips as part of their "Park Smart" program.
"This is a perfect opportunity for thieves to go out and prey on people that are in the giving spirit," said the sergeant, who is a member of the auto theft unit.
Much of the crime happens right in the mall parking lot.
"Just as you're looking for that perfect parking spot, there's people in the parking lot watching you," Smith said.
Smith says the best advice to shoppers is to lock your car and take the keys.
"Since, I'm here with my wife, lots of times I'll go as far as I'll leave my keys or something and she'll have hers," holiday shopper Levi Watson said, "which is probably a real dangerous thing to do," he added.
"We've had 41.4 percent of our vehicles taken, with the keys in them," Sgt. Smith said. "That's almost 50 percent of the vehicles stolen have the keys in them."
Smith said shoppers should think like a thief - if you see something in your car that you want, hide it.
"GPS's you know, cell phones, personal items, purses, bags," Smith said.
"Back when external GPS's were in, I left it in the window and I came back and the glass was shattered. The GPS was gone," Watson said. "I learned that the hard way."
Putting your valuables away before you get to the store is best. It's the common sense things, people forget during the holidays police say.
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PHILADELPHIA Ś Andy Reid defended the decision to put the partially blinded Nnamdi Asomugha back on the field against the Giants Sunday.
Reid said doctors who evaluated Asomugha felt the cornerback was seeing clearly enough after getting poked in the eye to allow him to play without endangering himself.
Preliminarily, Asomugha is a go for practice this week as the Birds prepare to take on the Pittsburgh Steelers at Heinz Field.
ōHe finished the game OK and heÆs OK today,ö Reid said Monday. ōWe were lucky we had a specialist right there, so we were able to take care of that. They gave him drops to put in there (Sunday) night and heÆll be reevaluated against tomorrow. It takes about 24 hours for the drops.ö
Chances are the Eagles would be 2-2, not 3-1 had Asomugha not returned to the game he left in the first half.
Just the same, quarterback Eli Manning and the Giants gave Asomugha their own eye test, taking shots down the field at him.
Asomugha plays such a physical press style that heÆs been called for pass interference four times this season, although one was declined.
Referee Ron WinterÆs crew called illegal contact on Asomugha defending 6-foot-6 receiver Ramses Barden, giving the Giants a first down at the 22-yard line of the Eagles with 49 seconds left. The contact was nearly too close to call, Asomugha slightly grabbing the shirt of his opponent.
Two plays later, Winter flagged Barden for offensive interference on Asomugha, who had run inside the receiver and was looking back for the ball. That 10-yard penalty and suspect Giants playcalling with the clock running down and no timeouts resulted in Lawrence Tynes attempting and missing a 54-yard field attempt in the waning seconds. TynesÆ career-long was 53 yards.
Was that offensive interference a make-up call?
ōI donÆt know because the slant on the same drive, I felt like it was fine,ö Asomugha said of the play resulting on defensive interference. ōBut obviously there have been times when I felt that and go back and watch it on TV and it wasnÆt that way. So I didnÆt know. But I donÆt think it was a make-up call. I think it was clear and I thought it was evident.ö
With just two tackles, Asomugha has had better games. But he showed Andy Reid his true grit.
ōWe all have things we have to work on,ö Reid said. ōHeÆs no exception and he has that mentality to do that. I was proud that he came back in and fought like crazy to get back out there and to play. He challenged, thatÆs what he did. When some of you have a chance to look at the tape youÆll see that when you have help over the top and youÆre in a trail position, sometimes it looks like you might be getting beat down the field.ö
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ōI want to see him out there and see what he can do first,ö Reid said of Dunlap.
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ōBrian Dawkins is just a very passionate guy,ö Ryans said. ōThe way he talked to us just about this game being about us, and not about him, it just shows how selfless he is. Even though this is his day, weÆre retiring his jersey and itÆs a big day for him.ö
Then again, Dawkins did have one little request.
ōHe just let us know that he doesnÆt like the Giants,ö Ryans said with a grin, ōand he wanted us to go out and get the win.ö
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'A' Is for Almonds; 'B' is for Bees
It's the Big 4-0 for the Almond Board of California's annual almond industry conference this week.
Some 1000 convention-goers are gathering in the Sacramento Convention Center. The 40th annual conference opened Tuesday, Dec. 11 and runs through Thursday, Dec. 13.
A contingent from the Department of Entomology at the University of California, Davis, is there--including some from chemical ecologist Walter Leal's lab and some from the Harry H. Laidlaw Jr. Honey Bee Research Facility.
Many came to hear U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack.
After all, almonds are California's biggest export. With some 750,000 acres of almonds in production in the state, the National Agricultural Statistics Service is forecasting a record-breaking 2.10 billion meat pounds this year, valued at approximately $3 billion. Eighty-percent of the global supply of almonds is grown in California, and about 70 percent of California's crop is marketed overseas.
Over at the Laidlaw facility, you can't help but notice the sign that graces the entrance. The work of self-described "rock artist" Donna Billick of Davis, it shows a skep, honey bees, DNA strands, and almond blossoms.
Then if you walk a few steps east of the facility to the Häagen-Dazs Honey Bee Haven, you'll run into the gigantic worker bee sculpture, also the work of Donna Billick. It's a six-foot-long morphologically correct worker bee, right down to the wax glands.
If it appears to be on a pedestal, that's the way it should be. Honey bees, those tiny agricultural workers, pollinate one-third of the food we eat.
As for the almonds, the pollination season begins around Valentine's Day. The orchards will be buzzing. It takes two hives per acre to pollinate California's almond crop.
Sign at the entrance to the Harry H. Laidlaw Jr. Honey Bee Research Facility at UC Davis depicts honey bees, a skep, DNA and almond blossoms. It is the work of Donna Billick of Davis (Photo by Kathy Keatley Garvey)
Fog shrouds the bee sculpture in the Haagen-Dazs Honey Bee Haven. It is the work of Donna Billick of Davis. (Photo by Kathy Keatley Garvey)
Bee working an almond blossom. She's packing her pollen load. (Photo by Kathy Keatley Garvey)
First the Tweets, then the Buzzes
"Almonds are one of the first crops of the season that need bee pollination," tweeted the Almond Board of California yesterday.
Valentine's Day traditionally marks the beginning of almond pollination season, but it's an early spring. The almonds are blooming and the bees are buzzing.
So, first the tweets, then the buzzes.
CNN Money, New York, came out Feb. 7 with a news story headlined "Honeybee Die-Off Shouldn't Sting." The Almond Board linked to it in its tweet.
The piece, written by Steve Hargreaves, explored the "good news and bad news on the honeybee beat."
Hargreaves said that colony collapse disorder (CCD) continues to claim about 30 percent of the nation's bees every winter. That's the bad news. The good news, he said, is that "beekeepers have been able to rejuvenate their hives each year so that by summer, the population is back to previous levels."
And "another bit of good news," Hargreaves pointed out, is that although agricultural yields are rising and "rejuvenating beehives is costly," the higher costs aren't being transferred in the supermarket.
Hargreaves quoted UC Davis agricultural economist Daniel Sumner as saying "It shouldn't be a significant item on the radar screen of consumers. It's not that big of a deal."
So, there you have it. Bees are in trouble. Almond production is up (about 750,000 acres in California and each acre requires two hives for pollination). And, demand for almonds is up. California now produces 80 percent of the world's almonds.
Meanwhile, honey bee guru and Extension apiculturist Eric Mussen of the UC Davis Department of Entomology, is repeatedly asked "How are the bees doing?" He writes a bi-monthly from the UC Apiaries newsletter and the periodic Bee Briefs, both posted on the Department of Entomology website.
Mussen attributes CCD (a mysterious malady characterized by adult bees abandoning the hive) to a combination of factors, including parasites, pesticides, pests, diseases, malnutrition and stress.
It continues to amaze us, however, what some folks think is causing CCD. They're looking for a silver bullet. There is none.
The arguments can get ugly. As debates continue to rage in the CNN Money commentary section, one reader, obviously exasperated, posted "...the writers in this place don't know anything about the realms of science, economics or ecology. And 90 percent of the posters aren't very bright, either."
Meanwhile, the bees are busy pollinating almonds.
Honey bee pollinating almonds in Vacaville. (Photo by Kathy Keatley Garvey)
Honey bee cleaning her tongue as she heads for the next blossom. (Photo by Kathy Keatley Garvey)
Peek-a-bee. (Photo by Kathy Keatley Garvey)
Up, up and away. (Photo by Kathy Keatley Garvey)
Escalating Cost of Growing Almonds
Growing almonds isn't all it's cracked up to be.
It's expensive.
The next time you're enjoying a ice cream bar coated with almonds or a salad with toasted almonds, think not only about the honey bees, but the growers.
The Almond Board of California recently reported that "Despite the higher yields and increased efficiencies California almond growers have gained over the years, the costs associated with growing almonds have risen dramatically while net returns per acre have shrunk."
A study by Cooperative Extension Specialist Karen Klonsky of the UC Davis Agricultural and Resource Economics showed that the total cost of producing an acre of almond is $3,897.
Yes, one acre.
Klonsky analyzed costs for an assumed 40-acre orchard in the northern San Joaquin Valley with 16-foot-22-foot spacings, 124 trees per acre, microsprinkler irrigation, and a 25-year orchard life.
The cultural costs totaled $1,752 or 45 percent of the total cost of production.
Cultural costs? Think pruning, weed control, pickup and ATV use, pollination, irrigation and fertilization, disease, and pests (insects and gophers).
Pollination--that would be the honey bees--accounted for $280 per acre or 16 percent of the cultural costs. (California has some 750,000 acres of almonds, and each acre requires two hives for pollination.)
Overall, next to cultural costs, the cost of land proved to be the second-highest expense, followed by production costs, cost of trees, and equipment.
"Applying this cost scenario to a price of $1.90 per pound, Klonsky calculated the break-even point would require a 2000 pound-per-acre yield," the board reported in its March newsletter.
And you thought growing almonds was easy?
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