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Wow is all I can say. I was in a music store and just so happened to stumble upon this. I've seen Fuel live 3 times before, and have heard their last album Something Like Human and I have lots of respect for the band. Prior to this album, I liked them, but did not consider them one of my favorite bands. This album has definitely put a different perspective. This album is raw and it just rocks! I've had it for almost one week and I can't put it down. I have a 6 disc changer, but I've put it on repeat for this disc. I just can't stop listening to it. Finally, a true guitarist! One that actually plays solos! The solos are great, the rythem on the guitar is wonderful, love the powerful distortion, and the drums give such a powerful beat. This IS A TRUE ROCK CD. Brett's vocals can get annoying at times, and it would be better if he sang the lyrics a bit more clearer. But still fits right in. The band blends beautifully together. If you love rock, you will love this. I've listened to other bands that you have to skip tracks on (Creed for example), and listened to other bands that have tracks that sound the same (Godsmack for exmample). This CD will keep you interested throughout and the variety is there too! No 2 songs sound the same at all. Well colaberated! It would have been nice for all the members to write the songs together, but still one of my best CD out of my collection. GET IT!
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The logic that so many people are using to bash this album……..well it frankly sucks. In fact logic really isn't a good word for it. And since when do we use logic to judge music anyway? Music is art. Right?First of all….this is just really good, American rock n roll. So ya'll can just get over it. I mean, cry me a freakin' river. And then build a bridge and get a clue. I honestly wonder if half of you Fuel naysayers have even listened to the album before. Because your comments don't line up with the copy of "Natural Selection" that I own. I bought mine from Wal-Mart…..not sure where you all got your copies from.Oh, and in case somebody missed it, i've been informed by one of the brilliant music critics on your favorite Amazon.com that the songs "Falls on Me" and "Won't Back Down" sound exactly the same. WOW………and thats all i have to say about that. Those must not be the same songs that are on my copy of the CD.Anyway….to the music, which I have actually listened to several times. Imagine that! Song by song:1. Quarter (Good, hard rocker, real cool piano)2. Down Inside of You (Hmmm, don't think the chorus is boring)3. Million Miles (Good stuff)4. Falls On Me (First single off the album, awesome song)5. These Things (Brooding, almost depressing, great guitar solo from Mr. Bell)6. Won't Back Down (This is the first song I heard from this album, Fuel rocks out [hmmm.... don't know about the whole remix thing though])7. Running Away (Great lyrics to this song about an inner struggle that the songwriter's having, awesome music, so what if it sounds a little 80s? Boo hoo people)8. Most of All (Simple musically, but very good nonetheless)9. Getting Thru (Good hard rock, but probably my least favorite on the album)10. Die Like This (I love this song, Brett sings his heart out, Carl Bell is just a darn good song writer)11. Luck (Cool, distorted voice thingy goin' on, good song written by Mr. Scallions himself)12. Days With You (Good way to end the album)SO yeah, this is a good album. Plain and simple. Not a whole lot not to like here. Oh and one more thing: all you people who are saying this is not Fuel……if you don't mind me asking, if its not Fuel, then who in the world is it?Ah yes, and for the ignorant character who seems to think the album cover looks like someone about to get their finger pulled…you might want to do some research on a guy by the name of Michelangelo. Good call!! My roomie here at college would like to use a line from the movie "Toy Story" to describe your utter ignorance: "You uncultured swine"
I'm just gonna do a simple track overview, which will tell all of what is needed to be told.Quarter-9/10 A great opener and a possible single for this album, really draws you into the dark.Down Inside of You-9/10 Another great rock anthem that contains a dark side that shows some new Fuel baby!Million Miles-9/10 I love this song, it starts so slow and Scallions puts a drawl on the lyrics to make it sound so awesome!Falls On Me-10/10 Obviously best song on CD, i mean thats why it was the first single.These Things-8/10 Brings back some flare from previous bands and really helps this record along and proves to be one of the better songs, maybe not at firt listen, but it catches on.Won't Back Down-8/10 From Daredevil which makes it just totally nasty(in a good way) but I would give 9/10 but compared to others on this album it only deserves 8/10.Running Away-10/10 Awesome traditonal Fuel, and thats fine by me.Most of All-10/10 My favorite surprise single on the album that has to be the second best song easily.Getting Thru?-5/10 Only bad song, its kind ahard to get thru it.Die Like This-10/10 Third best song on the CD, yeah baby!Luck-9/10 I love the distroted voice, makes this rather subtle song obtain a real BANG!Days With You-9/10 Ballad all the way, bring it on, it comes to be probably the sixth best song on CD which is good for a CD full of awesome songs!This new CD by Fuel conquers all previous records and it really rcoks, I mena there is only one bad song on the whole CD and even then it isn't as bad as half the songs that are out there we are forced to listen to.
*IMPORTANT*:: This is a long, tedious, and infinitely awesome review. If you are worthless, skip it.
The Incredible and Awe-Inspiring Legacy of the FUEL of Life, Vol. 3: "Natural Selection".
And so it continues. Three years following the lovable success of their sophomore record "Something Like Human", FUEL triumphantly returns to the fray with their 3rd record, "Natural Selection". This album shows the band taking their music to admirably new artistic heights in much the same way they did from "Sunburn" to "Something Like Human", and will hopefully continue this trend for years to come. Let me break the record down for ya:
1 – `Quarter' – If you were sleeping peacefully during the calmest night that ever there was, `Quarter' would be the midnight train carrying 400 tons of radioactive explosives that derails, crashes, and explodes fantastically into your bedroom, sadistically ruining any chance of a good night's sleep. Which then, of course, would destroy everything in existence. This track is menacing, bombastic, explosive, destructive, and delectably, irresistibly AWESOME. "I walk alone, I ask no quarter friend!!" vocalist Brett Scallions roars viciously through a thunderously tearing main riff, soon followed by lead guitarist Carl Bell, shredding out a wickedly awesome solo off into the mayhem as Kevin Miller mercilessly beats the living tar out of his drum kit. With bassist Jeff Abercrombie keeping things tightly in control, `Quarter' becomes an altogether lovely and deadly song, and makes for the best opening track of Fuel's 15 year career. 5/5
2 – `Down Inside of You' – Though the band's website refers to this song as "a dark rocker", "dark" isn't really the right word to adequately describe the mood of the song. It's more like, "an impressively mystic riff-rocker made for those who rock", or something, That said, the song DOES rock, just not as massively or darkly as `Quarter' oh-so obviously does. The lead riff is a chunky and fast one, the kind of thing Tom Morello(of AUDIOSLAVE) *might* write, if his riffs weren't so darned insane. The riff, the bass, the drums are all really great and gel smoothly together, but the track *tends* to become a little repetitive, especially if you listen to the album as much as I do. It's still a fabulous song though, and Brett's voice starts hitting notes that I never thought it could hit. Guess it was all `deep inside of him'.:) 4/5
3 – `Million Miles' – With every album Fuel had managed to release, there has always been one song that stood out from the rest; one song of fairly stratospheric proportions. "Sunburn" had `Hideaway', whose churning and refined beauty gave way to gorgeous instrumentation on a nearly epic scale. "Something Like Human", in turn, had `Hemorrhage', whose towering vocal delivery and superior instrumental work is second only to nothing at all(yes, I love this band THAT MUCH). For "Natural Selection", there's two. And one, obviously, is this one: `Million Miles'. The softly strummed opening chords make you feel like you're swimming in something quiet, something peaceful . . . but something dark and disturbing as well. "On my way for the day I find no sorrow . . ." Brett sadly laments with quiet indignation, but then firmly shakes away his pain and need in a pounding chorus of "I, I think I might've loved you . . . these things I said, but you were a million miles away . . .", sounding like the ghost of Layne Staley; with perfectly vocalized harmonics. Arguably the best song on the record, but certainly one of Fuel's best artistic movements to date. 6/5
4 – `Falls On Me' – The album's first single is something of a `Hemorrhage/Bad Day' hybrid, with fast `Hemorrhage'-type guitar-pickin' action, and a `Bad Day'-like chorus of amazing poppie-ness. As such, it is pretty much the ONLY choice to be had for choosing a single. None of the other songs have that ready-for-radio vibe to it like this one does, but even then it's still a fantastic song. The most ballad-like track on the album, reminding us all of songs from previous albums, a la `Sunburn', `Shimmer', `Innocent', ect. The highlight is mostly Brett's vocals, being uncharacteristically low but quite solid. 5/5
5 – `These Things' – Even though `These Things' seems to be the album's most unpopular track amongst the other commenters on this site, this is the 2nd `song of fairly stratospheric proportions' on "Natural Selection". It starts out innocently enough, with a quiet, but mournful riff, partly reminiscent of `Innocent' from "SLH", with a loop of talking voices in the background. I also love the bass in the beginning, before Brett starts singing – again, *high* – with some of the best lyrics Mr. Bell has penned thus far. "I've got a smile to hide me, I've got this cross to bear . . . I've got this fear that dreams are all I have that's left to me . . . these things have I" he croons as the distortion gets cranked up and the song slowly begins its restless churning. The song soon transforms from a strong anthem to a instrumental that majestically diffuses any other solo that Carl Bell has written before now. This track is perfect in all the best possible ways, and is also the longest song on any Fuel record(which, unfortunately, still isn't that long). 6/5
6 – `Won't Back Down' – Oh, my dear heaven, this is such an awesome song. Like C.S. Lewis once said about J.R.R. Tolkein's THE LORD OF THE RINGS, "It came like lightening from a clear sky." Carl wrote this song after nearly a year of sitting around, NOT performing music. Essentially, the whole song was written in about a week for the Daredevil Soundtrack. Starting with wild, grinding effects in the background, loud guitar chords are soon exploding from nowhere, are suddenly gone, blow back on, fall off somewhere, and then the pounding song truly begins. Great instrumentation and a FREAKIN AWESOME vocal delivery give this song everything it needs to be one of the best heavier tracks that FUEL has created ever recorded. The `industrial' taste to the song is intensified by the work of Charlie Clouser(of NIN) contributed to the track. 5/5
7 – `Running Away' – A calm, metallic siren wails up and down as a chorus of violas and violins grow from nothingness, escalating to an interestingly dissident pinnacle. It pauses here, as if the music itself isn't quite sure of what's to happen next . . . and then enters Carl Bell with a low, rhythmically choppy riff that inches it's way softly along, almost against it's will. By this time, the mood is so firmly set it seem nearly impossible for any more emotion to creep in anywhere. At least, until Brett comes in. Of all the previous songs that I have swept praise upon, it is this one, I believe, that touches me the most. The lyrics are both loving and haunting, and Scallions voice is so pure with feeling that I sometimes wonder how some folks get through the day without this band. Not as *good* as tracks 3 and 5, but this is my favorite song on the record nonetheless. 5/5
8 – `Most of All' – I find it rather amusing that, while this album has two songs of `fairly stratospheric proportions', it also has two of the worst songs Fuel has ever written. And, un-coincidentally , this song is one of them. Apparently, and not without a certain amount of understanding, the band decided to experiment with the pop/punk sound that bands like GOOD CHARLOTTE have made a career out of. For most of those who are commenting on this album, this would seem like a GOOD thing, and I suppose if you are a fan of bands like that then this would make some amount of sense. But while I applaud Fuel's desire and daring to attempt a song like this, it still really sucks, and could've easily been replaced with a song a million times better(specifically `On the Road Again', which can be found on the "Falls On Me" import single). On a positive note, Brett's voice frikin rocks! 1.5/5
9 – `Getting Thru?' – If you took the main riff from P.O.D.'s most successful track `Alive', gave it a bit more personality, added vocals that could carry the same emotion and identity, and generally make a fantastic, hard-rockin song that made `Alive' look like the pansy child of Fred Durst, it would be `Getting Thru?'. Much like `Prove', from `SLH', the blistering main riff booms along with a high-pitched riff-counterpart, adding greatly to the atmosphere and identity of the song. Yet, while `Prove' was the most blatantly sinister track of Fuel's career(barring, of course, `Mary Pretends'), `Getting Thru?' is almost lighthearted, and I'd swear it's the poppiest, but HEAVIEST song of it's kind. 4.5/5
10 – `Die Like This' – I have heard arguments that shun Fuel for being "a generic crap-fest". Though this is not at all my personal view of the band, I must admit that this particular song is one of the most disgustingly generic steaming piles of manure that I have ever personally heard. Though, again, as with the case of `Most of All', most folks seem to love this song, even while nearly everything about it is undesirably ridiculous. The intro was stripped off of `Hemorrhage', the music in the verses sounds exactly the same as something like a TRILLION other songs, the lyrics are outrageously weak at best, and so on. Carl supposedly wrote about 40 songs to choose from for this album, and I'd bet my Wal-Mart shoes that half of them were ten times better than this. 1/5
11 – `Luck' – The final two tracks on the album reminds me most of what we found and felt on Fuel's grand debut, "Sunburn". This song nearly hops along, spending a vocal melody and musical talents that make it clear the band LOVES doing what they do. One of only two songs by vocalist Brett Scallions that have ever made it to record(along with `Knives' from "SLH"), `Luck' is the singer's best song thus far. The lyrics are really fun to sing to and the vocal melody is purely awesome. The song's bouncy melody keeps the track sonically interesting, and a truly spectacular solo helps to make it obvious that what Brett has made here, if not an emotional masterpiece, proudly displays talent, fun, and impeccable musicality. Here's hoping we'll hear more of Brett's writing on whatever's to come next! 4.5/5
12 – `Days With You' – In the past, Fuel has ended their albums on a quietly desperate note. `Hideaway' and `Slow' were both weary pleas for salvation, with music crafted to match perfectly the messages within. `Days With You', however, is something entirely different. The song, musically, is really more like 3 songs which have been cut apart, adjusted, and dispersed throughout a four-minute span in such a way that would melt all three separates into one whole. Starting quietly, shifting to pure aggression, then maintaining both in a simply perfect solo than makes me love this band even more. The song ends up conveying a sort of angered resolve, and really seems to me the type of thing PEARL JAM would do(or would HAVE done in the "Vs." days). A fabulous end to a fabulous album. Kudos to Fuel, who simply rule. 5/5
I am almost perfectly sure nothing this long has ever been posted on this site. Why do I labor so long, so diligently, so IDIOTICALLY, on something that hardly anyone will notice or remember? Because Fuel is NOT a post-grunge carbon-copy of NIRVANA. The music that Fuel writes, despite my best efforts, is indescribable. As an incredibly die-hard fan, their songs inspire such emotion and beauty and honesty that I can hardly explain my true feelings for them. They mean a whole lot to me. Each song has it's own identity, it's own mood, it's own life. Too many people dismiss them, and while Fuel doesn't care one way or another, they deserve to be recognized for the great music they write. For GREAT, it truly is.
Thanx for reading. Now buy the freaking album.
Fuel's third album 'Natural Selection' was the biggest surprise for me in 2003, mainly because the more I listened, the more I loved it. I had always been able to appreciate Fuel's music on a superficial level, but now I think I'm becoming a fan with this release. Fuel abandon the more straight-forward post-grunge/hard-rock formula present on their first two albums for a more experimental sound on this album. It doesn't mean the songs suffer, in fact the whole album sounds better than anything they have done before. With expert production by Michael Beinhorn (best known for Soundgarden's 'Superunknown') and strong lyrics by band guitarist Carl Bell, Fuel have reached a whole new level. Songs like "Getting Thru" and "Falls On Me" may feel more at home with their previous work, but the layered "These Things" and the bitter "Quarter" help elevate the band above a wasteland of other grunge-cloned bands. Far too bold and mature for the Nickelback and Puddle of Mudd crowd anymore, it's easy to see why this release isn't selling as well as the others: it's unique! Highlight tracks include: "Quarter," "Running Away," "Days With You," "These Things," and "Million Miles." The only thing that drags this album down is the inclusion of the "Bring You Hell" remix of "Won't Back Down" (originally from the 'Daredevil' soundtrack), which is hardly a remix at all, and doesn't fit in with the rest of the material. Still though, it's a solid album, the best work Fuel has accomplished to date. If you weren't a fan of the band before and are a little skeptical, it's worth a shot. There is something for everyone who likes any form of rock music on here. And if you were a fan of the band before, just enjoy watching them grow and expand their sound.


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Sierra Nevada Brown Saison - Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.
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Ratings: 96 | Reviews: 81 | Display Reviews Only:
3.75/5 rDev +0.3%
05-08-2014 22:58:15 | More by Durandal_777
3.25/5 rDev -13.1%
08-13-2013 17:39:03 | More by JTomczak
3.75/5 rDev +0.3%
01-20-2013 02:22:02 | More by t0rin0
2/5 rDev -46.5%
07-28-2012 16:14:02 | More by pixieskid
1/5 rDev -73.3%
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3.5/5 rDev -6.4%
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3/5 rDev -19.8%
03-01-2012 21:32:28 | More by jophish17
3.5/5 rDev -6.4%
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District of Columbia
3/5 rDev -19.8%
02-07-2012 14:46:57 | More by nmann08
1.5/5 rDev -59.9%
01-30-2012 03:01:29 | More by jfcaa193
3/5 rDev -19.8%
01-14-2012 19:38:32 | More by JAHMUR
3.5/5 rDev -6.4%
11-29-2011 19:48:59 | More by brandoman63
4/5 rDev +7%
11-18-2011 21:25:59 | More by waiting4lunch
4/5 rDev +7%
11-15-2011 22:37:47 | More by HopStoopid120
3.5/5 rDev -6.4%
11-14-2011 19:51:53 | More by victory4me
South Carolina
4.1/5 rDev +9.6%
huge thanks to nate for the little growler of this one. set my sunday off to a great start!
Settling down after a few moments it left quite an impression on the sides of the glass and really left some nice, intricate lacing all along. Aroma is light grassy notes, pears, apples, touches of a light peppery spice and lots of grain that seemingly brought it all together. As I take the first sip, a wave of light, well carbonated and crisp, clean flavor washes across the palate. Light grasses, heather, herbal flowers, touches of spiced apple and a light tartness that cleans the palate quite well. some nice caramel backing in here to provides a good bit of depth, again really very nicely done. Very smooth as each sip is seamless and very easy to finish. Long, dry ending leaves you thirsty, yet satisfied and allows the subtle fruit notes to really pop.
06-07-2011 01:55:06 | More by mikesgroove
New York
4.1/5 rDev +9.6%
Presentation: It was served in a tulip glass from tap at the Pizza Plant Italian Pub.
Appearance: Looking into the glass it had a deep reddish brown colored body with a creamy light tan head. The head was long lasting, thick and it left tons of sticky lacing to cling to the sides of the glass in thick rings. (Very Impressive)
Smell: The aroma hits first with a bit of boozy alcohol. This has a slight sting but it quickly fades into some nice fruity Belgian style yeast notes. Apple, pear, and some faint tropical fruit notes slowly come out as it warms up.
Taste/Palate: I got a little more balance here on the tongue then its aroma was suggesting. It has big bready maltiness fading into fruity yeast notes with a mild layer of boozy warmth just underneath adding an extra level of complexity and character. It is pleasantly sweet overall and it finishes fruity with just a light touch of hop spice. The texture is lively and well carbonated but yet still smooth with a nice full mouth feel.
Notes: My overall thought was that it is a very solid brew. It's visually appealing and it brings a nice blend of flavor to the palate.
05-11-2011 20:45:16 | More by generallee
4.22/5 rDev +12.8%
From notes that I just recently found. On tap at the brewery on 7/21/09
Poured a nice red brown/copper color with reddish highlights around the edges of the glasses. A small, loose off white head sits atop this and eventually settles to a thin layer. There is some slight lacing left on the glass as the beer goes down.
A little bit of funk is present here (sort of surprised by this). There are some spices that emerge as well but can't pick out any certain ones. Very interesting smell to be sure.
Wow, this taste great. The spices that were in the smell come forward in the taste. Coriander and orange peel with a bit of juniper possibly. Tart finish. The alcohol is hidden nicely and it goes down incredibly smooth.
I really liked the mouthfeel on this. Medium carbonation that leads to a medium body. Not to thin and not too thick, very nice.
Another great beer from Sierra Nevada. It is definitely different and if you find this you should give it a try. If Sierra Nevada was doing growler fills at the time I visited the brewery I would have gotten this to go for sure.
01-03-2011 21:07:41 | More by Swimsum
3.68/5 rDev -1.6%
Reviewed from interesting very interesting beer; I liked it in the end. Pours a bit of a rusty brown color with a nice off white head. Nose brings some interesting combinations with brown malt and brown sugar plus some pepper and clove. Taste isn't quite as spicy and the yeast doesn't play as big of a role. Feel is nice with pretty decent carbonation and body. Definitely a fairly unique brew.
10-25-2010 12:47:27 | More by Thorpe429
4/5 rDev +7%
Had this on-tap at the Brick Store Pub. Pours a nice dark brown with good clarity and a fluffy off-white head. No real lacing. The smell is a little on the lighter side, with some light aromas of apple, coriander, roastiness, and malt. A dose of clove at the end. The taste is pleasant enough, with some slightly sweet brown ale roastiness combined with some light slightly sour saison flavors with some coriander and pepper, but primarily lots of chocolatey roastiness. Kind of an odd combination, but Fantome has done similar beers and this works to a degree. Tangy, slightly sweet, and with some banana and spice on the finish. Quite smooth, and fairly interesting. I enjoyed it as a passing experiment.
09-08-2010 18:47:21 | More by Georgiabeer
2.73/5 rDev -27%
On tap at the B. What a fine local establishment.
A - Light brown body. Off white head. Very carbonated. Lots of lacing. Pretty.
S - There that dreaded Belgian yeast. That banana wheat sugary stank.
T - Banana bread, malt, not much in the realm of hops. Not impressed.
M - Heavily carbonated. Overpowering.
D - Not feelin it. This sample glass will be enough thank you.
05-14-2010 20:11:20 | More by DNICE555
New York
4/5 rDev +7%
Had on tap at Gramercy Tavern in nYC.
Pours cloudy ruby red brown with a creamy beige 1/4 inch head that lasted for a while; good lacing that sticks to the glass. Carbonation was flowing up the glass very rapidly, which is reminiscent of champagne bubbles.
Smells of sweet malt, light spices, yeast, caramel, light hops and grass and/or herbs; it's a strange smell that's kind of saison and kind of brown ale, but not distinctive on the nose to classify it as either, which I guess is the point of this beer.
Tastes of sweet malt up front, with cherry, light spices, yeast, caramel, grass, herbs, bread, toasted grains, raisin or plum, syrup, floral and citrus hops, and some light pepper. Very tasty, smooth and well balanced considering the earthy feel to this. The alcohol was not a factor in the taste at all, and I was surprised to learn that it was 7.85%.
The brew has a light feel, with a medium body, very light carbonation and a creamy mouthfeel that leaves a slight sour pucker in the finish. Overall it was easy to drink, and I might even say refreshing and smooth.
A very, very enjoyable hybrid that I will definitely seek out again as I love the Sierra Nevada signature flavor injected into this saison, which kept enough of the brown ale character to make this a unique brew.
04-16-2010 02:41:50 | More by CHickman
3.98/5 rDev +6.4%
A - Quite a medium-brown hue, fairly translucent, with a frothy off-white head.
S - Smells a little grainy, a bit sweaty-funky, a bit sweet, and tempered with seemingly continental hops; not exactly Saison to me, but it smells both good and distinctly Sierra Nevada.
T - Following up on the aroma, this beer has some of the basic tenets of a Saison, bit is very much stripped-down as well as re-interpreted through the Sierra Nevada school of simplification, plus it is a Brown Ale at heart. I am not slagging SN; I hold them in high regard, I enjoy nearly all of their beers and this is no exception. In fact, I enjoy this one so much that I am sorta bummed it is not readily available. If they bottled this, they would sell the hell out of it in grocery stores nation-wide. That wouldn't be such a bad thing in the grand scheme, would it? The taste, for posterity's sake, is of banana-clove-peppery-spicy fused with a sweet malt, tempered with a continental hoppiness, with a well-hidden ABV.
M - Medium-bodied, but very refreshing. Nice balance between bitter and sweet on the finish.
D - Excellent
04-08-2010 02:10:35 | More by ktrillionaire
3.25/5 rDev -13.1%
Appearance: Served ontap. Pours a rich brown in color with an off white head.
Smell: Bready malts and some sweetness lurking.
Taste: A blending of styles and the first "brown saison" I've had. Lots of malt sweetness almost to the point of being cloying. Little to no hop profile which was interesting, light citrus coupled with some sourness. Restrained funk which dissappointed me slightly. All in all, its alright.
Mouthfeel: Medium to full bodied and chewey.
Drinkability: An odd-ball beer from Sierra Nevada Co. It has its moments, but left me wishing for the pale ale instead.
03-22-2010 17:40:55 | More by Stinkypuss
3.03/5 rDev -19%
Appearance: Served up a clear, dark mahogany-hued body with a thin, wispy, off-white head.
Smell: Fairly spicy, herbaceous aroma with notes of everything from cloves to peppercorns leading the way. Lesser background hints of brown sugar, toasted malts, and banana.
Taste: Dry malt character with darkened toasty tones and light touches of brown sugar and nuts. Mild banana fruitiness. Then, the tongue gets a blitz of zesty herbaceousness and pops of black pepper and cracked cloves. Modest hop bitterness. Furthering of spice flavors, a touch of alcohol, and some crackling crispness (it's like Pop Rocks in my mouth!) on the finish.
Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium-high, sharp carbonation, giving this one a really snappy carbonic bite to it.
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Poured from a growler into a Lost Abbey tulip.
A - Pours a light amber color that appears clear despite the abundance of wheat within this beer. After a brief struggle, a faint semblance of a head forms and grows to about a finger in height. Although it fades quickly, it leaves a wispy cap and lace that speckles the glass.
S - The nose is interesting and somewhat unlike anything I've had before. There is a huge vanilla and butterscotch note that almost reminds me of creme brulee in its gourmet sweetness. There's also a graininess that comes across at the end, probably due to the wheat and malt.
T - After the intriguing nose, I'm relieved to taste that the flavor doesn't shy away. There is a lot of depth in this beer and the contribution the barrel brings in the development of the flavors is fantastic. Even here, the main flavor hovers around the oak, with a strong vanilla flavor. While sweet, it isn't cloying, despite the butterscotch that comes into play near the end. The malt does play a bigger role, as the wheat gives the overall flavor a well-rounded, sweet flavor. A slight alcohol note creeps in during the finish to serve as a warming influence.
M - Mouthfeel is medium-bodied with decent carbonation. Despite how big this beer taste, it doesn't really feel that way. The wheat does wonders in softening the feel and abrasiveness, and the finish is long without being clingy.
D/O - Drinkability is high. One of the most unique wheatwines I've had the pleasure of trying. This is an exercise in barrel-aging that truly imparts a wonderful addition to the base beer. Definitely worth a try and this growler will disappear much easier than I want it to.
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08-08-2013 04:04:17 | More by Juuroumaru
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On tap at the brewery. Beige head. Color is a dark caramel hued brown.
Flavor is of butterscotch and toasted oats. There is some kind of fruity brightness here. Maybe it's coming from the hops. A lot of vanilla and wood flavors. Very malty and very complex.
Mouthfeel: warming and smooth. Medium bodied with a nice amount of carbonation.
Overall, this was very tasty. I was surprised with how good this was. I'd easily have more.
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04-09-2013 03:06:23 | More by Mibarak
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tap at the brewpub
Pours a ruddy brown with a white lacing for a head.
Smells of cocoa and licorice with a hint of something like hazelnut.
Flavor is a bit cloying, tart like grapes and mild citrus mixed with molasses and raisin sweetness on top of brown sugar with a buttery note as well.
Medium body with a tingle of carbonation on the back of the tongue.
Big and rich, a bit hard to stomach to be honest. I wanted to like this beer more. The sweet and tart aren't bad, but together they mix to make something that is a little overwhelming. This beer gets better as it warms up, though, and by the end it was actually fine. Worth a try, reminded me of some of the heavier He'Brew offerings like the anniversary series.
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Assalam o Aleikum.. I've an awkward question in mind. I've heard tht a person who passes away while on an Islamic mission is a martyr. So can we conclude tht Holy Prophet (p.b.u.h) and his companions are the most privileged martyrs?
I want to add to the answer, that Muhammad (S.A.W) was the most beloved Prophet of Allah (S.W.T). And Prophets never die nor the earth swallows their bodies.
answered Jan 29 '13 at 04:19 believer ♦ 1.2k●1●6
Wa Alaikum Assalaaam Warahmatullahi Wabarakaaatahuuuuu Yes brother,surely,no doubt in it..especially,the highest privelaged martyrs are those Companions who fought Battle of Badr and got Martryed in Badr..
martyr means the one who dies for the sake of Allaah,(in war)
answered Jan 29 '13 at 05:08 TeenMuslim ♦ 97●2●18
Assalam o Aleikum.. Only the one who dies in war is a martyr? Then brother wht abt the person who dies while preaching the religion of Allah?
(Jan 30 '13 at 20:34) azeem
first of all you dont have a prophet , it is not same statement living with a prophet and living after a prophet. you do have god Allah , talk to Allah by praying ...
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(Jan 31 '13 at 06:17) Irfan Alam ♦
Bro, Martyrdom is meant to those who go to war for the sake of Allah and they die there, I'm not talking about any war, you should research carefully before you go to Jihad, you don't go to Jihad to die as a martyr, but for a good sake for this earth, to spread or defend Islam in war or if you put yourself in another dangerous situation to deliver the message. Dying while praying isn't martyrdom, but it's still a good thing. And still, no one will enter the gardens of Allah without his mercy! No matter how much you pray or how you die. We have no idea how great the screaming voices in hell are, and how great the joy in heaven is. May Allah have mercy on us.
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"to spread or defend Islam in war" so you are for spreading islam "by the sword"?
(Aug 08 '13 at 12:30) abul rauf
Not to "convert otherwise kill them", but to conquer and rule the world, army vs army. This is the truth and if you are against it, then you are brainwashed by the Americans who kill Muslims and criticize Islam for being spread by the sword, they have castrated us. If Ottoman empire hadn't conquered Albania, I wouldn't have been born a Muslim, so I thank Allah and the Ottoman empire, for teaching Albanians the straight path. If you don't agree with me then why do you think Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him) conquered Mecca? To clean it. Not by his own will, but God ordered him to do so.
(Aug 08 '13 at 12:51) UnknownUser
i agree with you totally. islam's goal is to conquer and rule the world.
i used to tailgate with an albania. how is the frog leg exporting to france going? have y'all recovered from the collapse or the retirement/pension ponzi scheme yet?
"Not by his own will, but God ordered him to do so." what? we just had a whole discusion on free will? yaqin, now i'm really confused? kill those pagans by the will of allah.
you raise your army and bring it to "clean up" america, anytime.
yaqin, see what i mean by it's not that simple?
american mike.
(Aug 08 '13 at 13:04) abul rauf
Same with prophet Moses (peace be on him), God ordered the Israelite to go to war against some giants for the holy land. In the Bible the son of Mary (peace be on him) which the Christians call God, the Bible says he orders the disciples to bring those who don't accept him as their king, bring them and kill them before him. And it is all Allah who is commanding the prophets. So I am afraid many people see this as evil and don't understand it is for our best. PEOPLE ARE BRAINWASHED BY THE MODERN DAY, AND I THINK IT'S OVER, WE SHOULD PREPARE FOR THE DOOMS DAY.
(Aug 08 '13 at 13:05) UnknownUser
And to mix all humans with each other is a plan for the new world order, that's why Europeans and Americans societies are accepting immigrants. But Allah plans while they plan, and Allah is the best of planners; Islam is because of that the fastest growing religion. Without even a single drop of blood. While the unbelievers are paying Arab traitors to kill innocent in the name of Allah, and they themselves killed so many innocent babies and ladies, even raped many ladies, if this act happens in the Muslim side, your no longer a Muslim.
(Aug 08 '13 at 13:21) UnknownUser
islam is the fastest growing religion because the islamic world has doubled it's population in the last 30 years. since the grand ayatollah khomeni said we will out breed the infidels. those of us who live in the modern world and realize you no longer need 5 kids because half of them will die because of childhood diesese. see we inoculated the world against disease. so now we have two maybe three kids, not 10. allah the great planner needs to tell y'all to stop overpopulating your lands. then you wouldn't have to immigate.
thank you for your truth. you are a true muslim.
american mike.
(Aug 08 '13 at 13:35) abul rauf
do you mean actual giants? clearly allah is a god of war.
(Aug 08 '13 at 13:37) abul rauf
""When people came outside on the stairs, the terrorists were already present there," Mohammad Adnan, a witness, told the Associated Press news agency. "They started shooting and targeting many people. Two children were among the martyrs and around 20 people were injured.""
this guy thinks murder/terror victims are martyrs?????
(Aug 09 '13 at 18:23) abul rauf
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One teenager was killed and six others injured when the SUV they were in flipped over Friday afternoon.
The accident happened just before 3 p.m. Investigators say a Ford Explorer was driving south on Kings Avenue when it left the roadway and overturned.
One teen was ejected from the SUV; the other teens received minor injuries.
Kings Avenue was closed for several hours while the investigation takes place.
An eyewitness says if you blinked you could have missed it.
"They were fine and then before our eyes it just took, just like that a snap of the finger, and a child is gone," said the witness who saw the whole thing but asked to be unidentified.
Investigators say seven kids, most of them teenagers, were in a Ford Explorer driving down Kings Avenue in Brandon when in an instant those seven lives changed forever.
"The soft shoulder of the road caused the right tire to dig into the it as it tried to get back on the road way unfortunately the vehicle flipped," said Hillsborough County Spokesperson Larry McKinnon.
Seventeen-year-old Tyler Stich was ejected and killed.
"The victim in this case was unrestrained in the middle back seat and was ejected, and unfortunately the vehicle rolled over on top of him and he died here on the scene," McKinnon said.
Nick Bynum says Tyler was a good friend, like a brother.
"Heartbroken, missing him already," Bynum said about how he was doing in the after hearing the news.
Bynum says Tyler was the kind of guy who stayed away from trouble.
"Never got into any bad stuff really, never got into drugs or anything like that, just a good kid," Bynum said.
At this point it's not clear where that SUV was headed or why there were seven young people inside.
"It looked like they went off the side of the road over here and lost traction," the eyewitness said. "It just flipped and flipped and flipped."
Sixteen-year-old Ashley Lototo says she knew the driver of the vehicle and was walking by in the aftermath of the wreck.
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Car crash outside South Wimbledon Tube Station causing traffic chaos
8:25am Thursday 8th November 2012 in News By Nick Hitchens, Assistant Editor
Police have closed the A219 Merton Road after a woman flipped her car onto its side rounding a corner outside South Wimbledon station.
The driver, who is believed to be in her 30s, was turning from Kingston Road right into Morden Road at about 6.30am when the grey Vauxhall Corsa flipped onto its side.
Police fire and ambulance crews were called to the scene, but when the officers from Wimbledon Fire Station arrived they found members of the public had righted the car, with the woman still at the wheel.
Andy McKay, watch manager said: "I appreciate people are in a rush and may have wanted to get the vehicle out of the way, but I would stress that in a situation where a woman has been jolted onto her side, there is immediately the consideration of potential spine injury, and our advice would be to not move her until trained paramedics had the chance to assess her.
"In a situation like this I would stress that people should leave the incident to be dealt with by the emergency services."
The woman was treated at the scene before being taken to hospital as a priority with neck pain for a further check-up Police remain at the scene and the incident is causing major traffic issues in the surrounding area.
A diversion route is being suggested along Merantum Way.
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9:54am Thu 8 Nov 12
Tobermory says...
10:15am Thu 8 Nov 12
stuckinamatchbox says...
Accidents happen Tobermory. Anything could have caused this. Driver error included. It happens!
Must be great being perfect. So wonderfully generous of you to grace the rest of us with your opinions. You could pop into St Georges and give the lady a few words of wisdom.
10:21am Thu 8 Nov 12
stuckinamatchbox says...
Accidents happen Tobermory. Anything could have caused this. Driver error included. It happens!
Must be great being perfect. So wonderfully generous of you to grace the rest of us with your opinions. You could pop into St Georges and give the lady a few words of wisdom.
10:39am Thu 8 Nov 12
robmorleyuk says...
I appreciated it and it did elicit the classic 'Accidents happen' response. A shame that it comes weeks after the Worple road bollard was decapitated for doing its job.
11:25am Thu 8 Nov 12
shelokay2 says...
11:48am Thu 8 Nov 12
stuckinamatchbox says...
Gosh it's so sad isn't it. I did a first aid course a few years ago off the back of coming across an incident and not having a single clue how to do CPR. Having done the course we were then informed quite strongly by our instructor that it could be dangerous territory if an action taken by a 'do gooder' attributed to further injury. The laws around this would scare many off from getting involved even with the very best intention.
It's nerve wracking enough without that added pressure! I have yet to use it and my qualification (if you can call it that) has now expired. I did come close to using it though, but luckily for me someone beat me to it, but I must say I felt immense pressure with the added knowledge of the legalities.
3:29pm Thu 8 Nov 12
Tobermory says...
shelokay2 wrote:As the Fire Officer commented, its more likely it was people stuck in the traffic jam wanting to get past than people concerned for the womans well being who moved the car, a sad reflection on peoples priorities.
i wonder if the lady will be able to sue those impatient good doers if she ends up paralysed?
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Over 80 percent of the workers at KPFA are unpaid volunteers who are not represented by the union.
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After this report was released, Libby Sayre did respond to these charges in the following message, posted to the KPFA Unpaid Staff:
"I want to be clear about my position on Pacifica's use of Jackson Lewis. Pacifica needs to dump this union-busting law firm immediately. People of conscience like myself will have a difficult time contributing while Pacifica is spending our money on a union- buster like Jackson Lewis.
"However, neither I nor CWA is calling for a donor boycott of KPFA. I recognize that KPFA needs money in order to survive, and we have to keep this progressive institution viable…
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MORE than a year after Jamaica agreed to adopt the International Labour Organisation (ILO) Convention on decent work for domestic workers, household workers here are yet to see the ratification and implementation of the convention which would help to improve their working conditions.
Representatives from Jamaica were among the close to 400 delegates who voted for the convention during the 100th annual conference of the ILO on June 16 last year in Geneva, Switzerland. Delegates agreed to adopt a historic set of international standards aimed at improving the working conditions of an estimated 53 million domestic workers worldwide.
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With countries such as Uruguay already ratifying the convention, and others such as the Philippines giving commitment to follow shortly, president of the Jamaica Household Workers' Association (JHWA) Shirley Pryce is hoping that the convention will soon be ratified in Jamaica as well.
"We urge the government of Jamaica to make a public commitment to ratify the convention and implement the recommendation as soon as possible," implored the JHWA in a letter that was hand delivered to Prime Minister Portia Simpson Miller a few days prior to June 16 which was celebrated as International Domestic Workers' Day.
"The actions by the government will ensure that the standards adopted a year ago become a reality for domestic workers, and that we will not have to wait any longer for long overdue and desperately needed protections," the group wrote.
In a message to commemorate the day, Simpson Miller commended JHWA for the work it has been doing in improving the employability and job satisfaction of domestic workers. She also saluted domestic workers for the contribution they have been making to nation-building.
"At all levels throughout the society, the benefits of your service as domestic workers can be seen as it is you who help to take care of the children, the elderly and other family members while also allowing others the opportunity to pursue their educational, professional and career advancement," she said.
She noted too that, "through the Ministry of Labour and Social Security, the drafting of the necessary legislative amendments to allow for ratification of the International Labour Organisation Convention concerning decent work for domestic workers is currently being undertaken."
In the interim, Pryce said her group has been conducting a number of seminars and establishing chapters in various parishes in Jamaica so as to sensitise domestic workers about the convention and how it stands to benefit them.
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We start off the movie finding out Jessica Shepard (Ashley Judd) has been promoted to Police Inspector and assigned to the Homicide Division. Shell be the only female working that unit so she must be pretty damn good, right? Too bad screenwriter Sarah Thorp didnt think through that plot point before she turned her into a barely functioning alcoholic with psychological problems who likes to pick up strangers in bars and have seedy one night stands before going home, drinking more wine, and passing out. Now if you are trying to make a good impression with your new co-workers and you also know youre going to be up against a lot of men who dont think youre worthy of your promotion, wouldnt you be a little concerned about having a hang-over and not showing up for work? Not Jessica. And wouldnt you also start to wonder after it happens once or twice, even three times why you pass out and dont remember things after drinking a little wine at home? Any normal person would so why wouldnt this highly skilled, highly trained police officer who was promoted because of her attention to detail? Duh. You drink, you pass out, people you sleep with die but you dont put two and two together? Come on.
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When Kurt Busch parted ways with Penske Racing and its No. 22 car last season, team president Tim Cindric placed a call to Joe Gibbs Racing at the urging of Brad Keselowski.
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• Though JGR offered Logano an opportunity to stay with a full-time Nationwide ride, Logano "made it clear to them I wanted a full-time Cup ride and I felt like I was capable of winning races," he said. He wasn't scared of being left without a job, he added, and was confident all along he'd land with a quality Cup team. Logano also had other options, he said.
• All the questions about his job and future weren't as much of a distraction as people think, Logano said. But in the past, the rumors regarding his possible release from JGR affected his confidence level because he didn't know how to deal with them. Over time, Logano said he learned how to be tougher and remain confident despite being in the rumor mill.
• Logano will drive a No. 22 Shell-sponsored car, and Cindric said the team worked closely with its sponsor to make sure it found a talented driver who also had the right character. Over the last nine months, Shell has been embarrassed by Kurt Busch's antics and Allmendinger's failed drug test. "We've had to be more in concert than we've ever been with a sponsor, trying to ensure we get it right," Cindric said.
• It's unclear whether current No. 22 crew chief Todd Gordon will be paired with Logano. Cindric said Logano needs time to get to know Gordon and other personnel at Penske to evaluate the chemistry before the team makes a decision on how the No. 22 team will look in 2013. Cindric said Logano's involvement in the Nationwide Series next season was yet to be determined.
• Logano is unlikely to start driving a No. 22 car before the season ends, Cindric said. With Penske moving to Ford in 2013, the team would rather have a fresh start at Daytona than try and get Logano in a car with a few races left this year.


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