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LEBANON, IN (WAVE) - A university-trained forensic scientist has offered perhaps the strongest words yet in defense to charges that David Camm murdered his wife and their two young children more than 13 years ago.
"Nothing that I found was inconsistent with what David Camm said he did, after returning to find his family," consultant Bart Epstein told jurors Wednesday morning.
Epstein has been analyzing blood patterns for more than half a century; first as deputy director for Minnesota's state crime lab, and the past eight years as a private consultant. Defense attorneys hired him to examine blood evidence prior to Camm's first trial in 2002.
Epstein told jurors that he was fully aware then that investigators considered millimeter-sized blood dots on Camm's t-shirt the strongest evidence that Camm was the killer.
"I told them (Camm's lawyers) that I would report what I found," Epstein told prosecutors during cross-examination. "And if it was spatter, their client was going to have a lot of problems."
By spatter, prosecutors are alleging that Camm shot his 5-year-old daughter Jill at such close range that blood from her head wound marked his shirt. Jill's body, and those of Camm's wife Kim, 35, and son Bradley, 7, were found in the garage of their Georgetown, IN home on the night of September 28, 2000.
Kim and Bradley were lying on the garage floor. Jill was still strapped into the rear seat of her mother's Ford Bronco. However, Epstein told jurors that spatter stains inside the Bronco prove that Camm couldn't have been the shooter.
"There are at least 40 stains in a two-by-six-inch area on the rollbar," said Epstein. "Ninety percent of them are a mixture of fatty material, blood and tissue."
DNA testing has confirmed the blood on the rollbar is Jill's. Epstein testified that most of the stains are about 2 to 4 millimeters in size, much larger than the dots on Camm's shirt.
"Larger particles travel further; the smaller particles drop off," Epstein said. "It's like throwing a golf ball and a ping pong ball with the same force. The denser golf-ball goes farther."
"If the shirt stains came from there (gun-shot spatter), where are the larger particles?" Epstein asked. "You don't see them there."
Epstein testified the blood-stain pattern on Camm's shirt also appears to be more linear. In contrast, the stains on the rollbar are more scattered and random.
From the beginning, Camm has claimed he bloodied his shirt his own failed attempt to save his son's life. He first told investigators that Bradley coughed up blood during CPR. Once DNA testing confirmed the blood was Jill's, Camm suggested he brushed up against her as he removed Bradley from the vehicle.
As did fellow defense witness and blood-pattern analyst Barie Goetz, Epstein conducted his own experiments.
"I wasn't trying to reproduce the stains," Epstein he told jurors. "I was trying to determine what mechanisms might have produced what we saw."
Unlike Goetz, Epstein donned t-shirts woven with the same 50-50 blend of polyester and cotton as Camm's. He applied droplets of his own blood to a wig. The blood patterns created didn't look like those on Camm's shirt, but Epstein blames his own methodology.
"We didn't re-test as the blood on the hair was drying," he said.
Epstein told jurors that blood on Jill's hair shaft beading as it dried offers the most-likely explanation for the t-shirt stains. But Epstein made no mention of it in his evaluations prior to Camm's first trial.
"When did your opinion change?" Special Prosecutor Stan Levco asked. "Sometime between the first and second trial?"
Epstein testified that another experiment disproved prosecutors' first theories as to the time of the crime. Investigators had pegged it at shortly after 9:30 p.m., minutes after Camm arrived home from playing basketball at his uncle's church and only moments before calling the ISP's Sellersburg post to report finding the bodies.
Epstein put the crime scene photos to the test by pouring some of his own blood on Camm's garage floor.
"Heavy clotting was obvious in about 30 to 40 minutes," he testified. "But it would take a least an hour to an hour and a half to see what they (crime scene photos) showed."
If wholly accurate, it means the killer struck at about 8 p.m. Camm insists he was still playing basketball at that time. Several eyewitnesses, including relatives, have sworn Camm never left the gym. But prosecutors allege that Camm still had an opportunity to sneak home, commit the murders, and return to bolster his alibi.
Jurors asked Epstein whether temperature and humidity could affect results. He said only if weather conditions were significantly different.
"We're talking maybe one or two minutes' (faster or slower) drying times," Epstein told the jury.
Prosecution analysts have concluded Camm could have gotten his wife's blood on his shoe and a sock only by shooting her at close range. Epstein's examination dovetail's with Goetz'; they're 'transfer stains' from Camm's shoelaces, which may have dipped into blood on his wife's pants as he administered CPR.
"These stains show serum separation," Epstein said. "That would have had to have happened after the murders. If these were spatter, you would see a lot more staining. And projected blood does not 'bounce up.' These stains are high on the shoe."
Prosecutors allege that Camm staged the scene to make his wife appear to be the victim of a sexual attack; removing her pants after shooting her. However, Epstein told jurors blood patterns on the garage floor indicate Kim's pants were removed before she died.
Charles Boney's sweatshirt wasn't part of Epstein's first look at the evidence in 2001. It wasn't tested until Camm's first conviction was overturned in 2004. Testing later tied Boney to that shirt and the scene. He was convicted of the murders and has been serving a 225 year sentence since January 2006.
Boney claims he used the sweatshirt as wrapping for a gun he delivered to Camm and that he was there to hear Camm use that gun to kill his family. Camm's legal team insists that Boney is the killer and was acting alone.
"If that (sweat)shirt were within four feet of the gunshot, you'd expect to see back-spatter on it," said Levco.
"If there were back-spatter created," Epstein said.
But the pattern analyst told jurors the sweatshirt has only contact stains and Indiana State Police technicians has testified that Camm's DNA is nowhere on it.
Epstein said a presumptive test revealed blood on Camm's gym shorts, but he said, "It probably is a continuation of the stain on the back of his shirt."
Goetz told jurors that Camm could have stained his wiping his fingers, stained with Jill's blood, as he removed his son from the Bronco.
"But if you found blood there, why wasn't it tested to determine whose it was?" Levco asked.
"We didn't have what we needed to do it," Epstein said. "Why somebody else didn't, I don't know."
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We would especially like comments on the small tweaks we made to the preferred routes, said Jennifer Baldwin, the citys bicycle and pedestrian coordinator. We decided to do preferred routes because we wanted to learn where people are going and how they get there, and it seemed less subjective than easy, medium and hard routes.
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PLATTSBURGH — The Cornelia Street Office of Glens Falls National Bank and Trust Co. collected donations and supplies for the Elmore SPCA during its recent Community Appreciation Day on Sept. 20.
The Cornelia Street Office Raises $400 for the shelter. Basket raffles and donations resulted in this total for the nonprofit, along with food and other pet supplies. In addition, the Elmore SPCA brought adoptable pets to the branch to help find them homes.
The event also featured food, giveaways and free pet grooming services by Pawfection Pet Grooming.
Glens Falls National Bank and Trust Co. provides banking and financial services through 30 offices in Clinton, Warren, Washington, Saratoga, and Essex counties. It hosts community days throughout the year as a way to show appreciation for its customers and neighbors, and assist local causes.
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Each team will be handing out game schedules and team photos. Participants can shake their hands, get their autographs and get their picture taken with the athletes that represent PSU. The fall Cardinal athletes will also be raffling off team merchandise to raise money for breast-cancer awareness. All proceeds will be donated to the Treasure Chests Breast Cancer Support Group of CVPH.
Marty the Moose will assist in welcoming the fall athletes. The event is open to the community, youth teams, athletes and all fans of Plattsburgh State athletics. Champlain Centre expects to host this event for the fall, winter and spring seasons.
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MIAMI -- A subject of trade talks for weeks, Kevin Gregg on Thursday afternoon finally found out where he would be going.
The 30-year-old right-hander, who had been the Marlins closer for most of the past two seasons, was dealt to the Cubs for pitching prospect Jose Ceda.
"It's one of those teams, I've always said I've wanted to play there and play for the Cubs," Gregg said. "I can't say enough about the organization and the atmosphere there."
Since the World Series ended, the Marlins have now made three trades in which they moved players eligible for arbitration for younger talent. In all three deals, Florida received pitching in return.
Ceda, 21, is a 6-foot-4, 275-pounder who is currently pitching in the Dominican Republic Winter League for Leones.
"Jose is a big, strong kind with a real live arm," Marlins president of baseball operations Larry Beinfest said. "We think he can help us in the back end of our bullpen in the very near future, if not right away. We also want to thank Kevin for his two seasons with us. He did a great job for us and we wish him the best."
Entering his third season of arbitration, Gregg -- who made $2.5 million in '08 -- has been on the trading block since the season ended. The right-hander, initially acquired by the Marlins from the Angels after the 2006 season, is battling back from a left patella tendon injury.
Trading Gregg came after Florida sent lefty Scott Olsen and left fielder Josh Willingham to the Nationals for infielder Emilio Bonifacio and two Minor Leaguers on Monday, which was officially completed on Tuesday morning. On Oct. 30, first baseman Mike Jacobs was dealt to the Royals for reliever Leo Nunez.
For several weeks in the second half, Gregg was hindered by a sore left knee, eventually being replaced as the closer by hard-throwing Matt Lindstrom.
Gregg underwent surgery a few weeks ago to repair left patella tendinitis. He is expected to be ready by Spring Training.
August was an especially tough month for Gregg, who was sidelined after he was unable to convert a save against the Mets on Aug. 29.
Although he didn't go on the disabled list, Gregg rested his knee and he next pitched on Sept. 9. In nine appearances in September, the right-hander didn't allow a run in seven innings.
Unless the Marlins seek a closer elsewhere, the team is prepared to go into Spring Training with Lindstrom handling the role. Lindstrom converted all five of his save chances in September.
In two seasons with the Marlins, Gregg posted 61 saves in 74 chances. In 2007, he converted 32 of 36 chances and racked up 84 innings in 74 games.
At Double-A in '08, Ceda was 2-1 with a 2.08 ERA in 22 relief appearances, and he also made 12 starts and three relief appearances at Class A Daytona.
In 84 2/3 innings this past season, Ceda struck out 95 and walked 42.
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Alexander supports decision to redesign UPF
While disappointed that the first design effort for the Uranium Processing Facility didn't work, U.S. Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., offered a positive outlook on the problem.
"I wish we didn't have to have a redesign, but I'd much rather have a redesign before we start (construction) than to tear the building down after we start because we made a mistake," Alexander said today during an editorial board meeting at the News Sentinel.
The National Nuclear Security Administration last week acknowledged that the UPF will have to be redesigned because the design in the works didn't have enough space to accommodate all the necessary equipment. As a result, the roof of the 350,000-square-foot building will be raised by about 13 feet, accompanied by other design changes in the walls and foundation slab.
Alexander said the NNSA made the right decision, avoiding the possibility of a mid-project remake that could have doubled the cost as the UPF moves through construction.
"My opinion about it is I don't want them to start building it until they've got it properly designed," he said.
Tennessee's senior senator said the multibillion-dollar Uranium Processing Facility is the most important project in the government's modernization of the U.S. nuclear weapons complex. He emphasized that it's a difficult undertaking that has to be done right.
"They're trying to design a building that's supposed to last 50 or 75 years," Alexander said. "There's no other uranium processing (facility) in the world like it. It's a very complex, difficult enterprise. It would have been much better if their first try worked. But it didn't. And I want them to design as efficiently as they can ... I'm hopeful they can get to 90 percent design (completed) by September 2013. But if they're not there, I don't want them to start building."
Alexander said he and Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., are meeting monthly with John Eschenberg, federal project director of the UPF, and others to discuss the project's progress.
Feinstein is chairman of the Senate Appropriations energy and water subcommittee, which oversees funding for the U.S. Department of Energy. Alexander is the ranking Republican.
The current estimated cost range for the Uranium Processing Facility is $4.2 billion to $6.5 billion.


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Bottle deposit change triggers oppositionBy Neal P. Goswami
VERMONT PRESS BUREAU | February 28,2014MONTPELIER Legislation that would repeal the deposit on liquor bottles and beverage containers 1 liter and larger is drawing strong opposition from redemption centers and environmental advocates who see it as a first step in ending the four-decade-old program.
The provisions are included in S.208, a solid waste bill sponsored by Sen. Robert Hartwell, D-Bennington, chairman of the Senate Natural Resources and Energy Committee. He said the proposed changes to the states bottle redemption law, enacted in 1973, are a step toward a single-stream solid waste system.
In a single-stream system, all solid waste, including bottles and cans and other recyclable material, is collected together and sorted at a materials recovery facility. Proponents say it is more efficient and allows more people to participate in recycling because sorting at home is not required.
Vermonts bottle redemption law created a separate waste stream for bottles and cans. Although the legislation wouldnt repeal the entire bottle law, a broader discussion is already taking place in committee, and amendments could be submitted when the bill hits the Senate floor.
David Ellenbogen, the vice chairman of the Vermont Sierra Club, told the committee Thursday that the bottle bill has changed the habits of Vermonters and raised recycling rates.
He said weakening the law would hurt the states reputation as an environment-friendly state.
How would headlines read outside of Vermont if the bottle bill were to be weakened or abolished? he asked.
Ellenbogen also argued that bottles and cans would dot Vermonts landscape if deposits were eliminated. Because the containers currently have value, many people scour the roadside for them and take them to a redemption center, he said.
Those people are not going to do it if theyre not getting a nickel a bottle, he said. Where are those bottles going to go?
Paul Burns, executive director of the Vermont Public Interest Research Group, said his organization opposes the bill because of its impact on the bottle redemption law. He told lawmakers it is the most successful environmental law in Vermont in the past 40 years and should be expanded to include even more recyclable containers.
A November 2010 poll funded by VPIRG showed that 93 percent of Vermonters support the law, with 75 percent indicating strong support, Burns said. Just 4 percent said the redemption law is a bad idea, and 86 percent supported an expansion to include more products made from aluminum and polyethylene terephthalate, or PET.
Redemption center owners also testified Thursday, saying their businesses would take a big hit if the redemption law were weakened or eliminated. Arthur Carroll, owner of Springfield Redemption Center, spoke on behalf of about 100 such businesses.
He said the bottle provisions in the bill are meant to end Vermonts bottle bill. The beverage industry, Carroll said, has successfully lobbied lawmakers to prevent about 30 bills seeking an expansion of the law in recent years.
Bob Coloutti, owner of Terrill Street Discount Beverage in Rutland, said his redemption center attracts customers to his store. Any weakening of the law would harm his business, he said.
Its a calling card for me, Coloutti said. It gets people to come to my store. Without redemption, the reason for my store is greatly in jeopardy, and so is my business.
He added, Not a lot of what gets talked about is what happens to these businesses if redemption goes away.
The sorting of bottles and cans is also providing jobs for people who may otherwise struggle to secure employment, he said.
Theyre not wielding a résumé, Coloutti said. Theyre not college educated, but they are hardworking and looking to earn a wage. You cant just take something away thats been in place for 30 years and think that people are just going to keep on trucking.
Ray Dube, sustainability manager for Coca-Cola Bottling Co. of Northern New England, told lawmakers that recovered material from the recycling of bottles and cans has value and is used in a variety of products. Fleece used in apparel and the stuffing used by the Vermont Teddy Bear Co. are made from recycled PET, he said.
Dube said even more products should be recycled but consumers are largely unaware. Among widely used products that end up in landfills are tomato containers, ketchup bottles and peanut butter jars, he said.
Andrew MacLean, a lobbyist representing the Beverage Association of Vermont, said the industry is seeking a single-stream waste system to improve efficiency. It would also save distributors money, he said.
Currently, distributors must pay a 3.5-cent handling fee for each can or bottle brought back to a redemption center. Vermonts handling fee is the highest in the country, MacLean said.
Should lawmakers move to repeal the redemption law and move to a single-stream system, he said, the beverage industry is prepared to fund public recycling containers to prevent littering and launch a very intense public education campaign.
How the legislation will evolve remains unclear. Hartwell said Thursday his goal is to adopt a comprehensive single-stream solid waste system that incorporates bottles and cans.
The bottle provision is intended to at least spur discussion on how the existing redemption system can be phased out in favor of single-stream, he said.
I dont know whats going to happen to the bottle provisions right now, but the point is that there has to be a comprehensive solid waste system, Hartwell said.
Although he acknowledged that including a repeal of the deposit on liquor bottles and larger containers in S.208 is inviting trouble, Hartwell said he never intended to repeal the bottle bill in this bill.
The full committee will have a chance to weigh in on how to proceed, he said.
If the committee wants to just leave it alone for the time being, then thats what they want, Hartwell said.
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Behind them stood Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where severely wounded soldiers are first treated upon their return to the States. The Red Sox had just left; the half-hour photo op had turned into a three-hour visit with patients. The visit had lasted so long the team ended up delaying its departing flight back to Fort Myers, where the players were to resume spring training. They were reluctant to step away from the enormity of the sacrifices they had encountered at Walter Reed: the 22-year-old missing both legs who told Dustin Pedroia that Pedroia was his hero because he'd saved a no-hitter for Clay Buchholz; the mother who asked Jason Varitek to sign her son's glove, the son whose post-traumatic stress disorder kept him trapped in his room for fear of crowds.
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Reviews by kkipple:
South Carolina
4.55/5 rDev +7.8%
Big thanks to Prototypic for sending me this months and months ago, finally got 'round to cracking it with friends in the first cool days of Autumn. The 750ml bottle reads 04 - 2013, which would make this a 2008 vintage. The bottle fill is absurdly high - delightful!
A. After removing the classy white wrapper, the beer is cracked and poured from a heavy dark green bottle into my dependable little Tripel Karmeliet glass. The beer is a very attractive and regal blood-orange red, clear with a tiny head, and with bubbles that stick to the glass beneath the surface. Easily as pretty as they get.
S. Hmm... Tart! A sharp tart-funk up front (but more tart than funk) is a real eye-opener, and this is before the delicious, bold cherry-sweetness hits. Rich and clean, this is quite engaging, and with only hints of oak and a slight metallic tinge, the real star is the lush sour fruit. Nothing wrong here.
T. Quite tart - sour lactic - but not too intense or overbearing. Lemon, some reserved funk, and clean. After the initial shock, the waves of rich cherry flavor flood in and stick around long into the mouth-puckering finish. The flavor fills the mouth and is very, very good. The Girardin here is evident. Nothing ground-breaking here, simply a classic Kriek and one that can stand up to anything from Cantillion or Drie Fonteinen.
M / D. Fine carbonation, really quite perfect, and a long, dried out cherry-tart finish that fades out with panache.
Kriek De Ranke is really about as good as I've had for the style; a wonderful blend that avoids being too sour or too funky and gives up lots of red-cherry tart lovin' pretty much all night. Highly recommended for the sour-fruit beer lover.
10-05-2010 17:43:09 | More by kkipple
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North Carolina
4.28/5 rDev +1.4%
Its been awhile since I went Belgian even longer since I had a lambic beer for wich Iam not a big fan but I decided on taking a chance on this pretty highly acclaimed on today and Iam glad I did.First off what a pour into a tulip glass a a rosey color with a fluffy pink head that settles slowly into a creamy-like mass with globs of lace behind.A whole lot of stuff going on in the nose a little funk and iron to go along with the sour cherry and vanilla just alot to take in,the flavors are just so much rolled into one starts off big and nearly puckering sour but is stopped abruptly by a cedar wood dryness and iron/metallic note.A nice vanilla pod lends itself well as it melds nicely between the two extremes of this beer.This is a doozy and makes me think more about a style that I didnt care for much before but maybe I havent explored it enough,it might be my beer phase I go into exploring the fruit lambic style.
06-11-2006 00:59:04 | More by oberon
4.05/5 rDev -4%
Consumed at the Map Room. Unknown vintage. April 7, 2007.
Stunning appearance. Simply flawless. Deep, thick pinkish crimson with a thick and lasting pink head. Aroma of tart/sour lambic funk and black cherries. Musty and sweaty. Flavor is loaded with tart cherries, puckering with zesty carbonation. Acidic, sharp, with a dry finish. Awesome beer. Guzzelable.
04-12-2007 16:03:30 | More by DaPeculierDane
4.2/5 rDev -0.5%
2007 vintage. Sampling date: 2009-09-11.
A: Nice reddish pink with a small pink head that leaves some lacings.
S: A very nice smell. Lots of cherry aromas, cherry pits, grass and funky barnyard and horse blanket. A hint of vinegar.
T: The taste is rather tart, almost sour. Lots of cherries and lemons. It's really impressive that so much cherry flavor is present after about two years in the bottle. Notes of cherry pits, grass and mud. Not much malts get through. The funk is more restrained than in the smell, but here's still quite a lot of barnyard character. The finish is dry with some candy-like cherries, grassy bitterness, tartness and a mineral note.
M: Medium body, dry and refreshing.
D: A very nice beer, really well done. It's very lambic-like and I would guess that quite a lot of lambic went into the blend.
09-15-2009 20:27:09 | More by ricke
4.43/5 rDev +5%
Shared a bottle of this with my buddy James on my b-day last night. Pours from the bottle a deep opaque reddish orange with a bubbly pink head that slowly falls to a ring around the glass. Very nice. Aromas of sour cherries upfront - ripe & fresh. Exquisite layers of cob webby funk immerse my nose. Lovely woody tones are present as well in the beautiful nose of this brew. Simply wonderful.
First sip brings a lemony pale maltiness along with a bounty of sour cherry flavors. Notes of vinegar with a tartness that hits each side of the cheeks with every subsequent sip. Woody notes pop out all over the place with barnyard funkiness in full effect throughout. Just a wonderful kriek here that has met my expectations and then some.
Mouthfeel is light and smooth with a stable carbonation that doesn't ever get too agressive. On the acidic side overall but still is quite enjoyable. Well worth seeking out if you're a fan of the traditional kriek. I'll definetly be getting to this one again sometime soon.
10-22-2005 16:07:50 | More by orbitalr0x
4.23/5 rDev +0.2%
On cask at Moeder Lambic Fontainas on 3/14/11
A - Pours a turbid red/brown with one finger of light pink foam. Head has decent retention, but leaves no lacing.
S - Aroma is a good but mild cherry and some funk. I was sitting outdoors at the cafe and it was hard to get a good sense of the aroma.
T - some initial faint sweetness is quickly erased by tart cherry, a dry earthiness, and a surprising bitterness near the finish. Very nice.
M - Medium mouthfeel with a lingering bitterness.
O - An enjoyable kriek, but not my favorite. The bitterness is actually a nice addition.
04-06-2012 02:01:37 | More by warnerry
3.88/5 rDev -8.1%
I was a bit disappointed in this beer, perhaps because I was expecting something more bold. The taste of the fruit didn't come through very much, and it wasn't as sour as I expected. Or rather there was some vinegary sourness but not any sourness from the cherries as I would have expected. It was easy to drink though and enjoyable from beginning to end of a meal.
06-12-2008 02:10:14 | More by dill
4/5 rDev -5.2%
07-25-2014 14:58:50 | More by mctizzz
4.33/5 rDev +2.6%
Thanks to Exiled for sharing this bottle. Bottled April 2008.
The beer pours a reddish-amber color with a white head. The aroma is unmistakably kriek, with notes of tart cherries and some oak. The flavor is tart cherries, oak, vanilla and some funk. The beer is very dry, very tart and very drinkable. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.
08-16-2010 23:13:17 | More by Mora2000
5/5 rDev +18.5%
02-05-2012 19:52:39 | More by GreenMountainBoy
4/5 rDev -5.2%
03-20-2012 03:52:02 | More by fo1ksguitar
4.35/5 rDev +3.1%
Bottle (2012)
Churchill's Pub & Grille
San Marcos, CA
Pink and ruby in color with a distinctly pink head that doesn't last for too long, and eventually leaves lots of spotted stick down the glass.
The aroma is very cherry-forward, with a mild funk accompaniment. There's a touch of tannic oak as well, but the cherries and funk are dominant.
The flavor too is filled with lots of sour cherry, moderately level of sourness, and mild funk. It's all very well integrated and quite tasty.
Medium bodied with moderate to high carbonation.
A very nice kriek, though it doesn't rank with the finest in the world.
06-12-2012 15:42:44 | More by ehammond1
British Columbia (Canada)
4/5 rDev -5.2%
11-20-2011 02:42:44 | More by chickenm
West Virginia
4.83/5 rDev +14.5%
Another brew sampled with crookedhalo here, deep cherry tone unfiltered cloudy appearance with a nicely formed bubbly pink head, beautiful stuff leaves lacing as it dwindles. Aroma: Tart cherries, awesome wild spices farmhouse influenced funk wonderful artform in a bottle Cantillon comes to mind. Taste: Tart kiss of puckering cherry sour tones, but it's not overkill tear jerking sour refreshing and balanced with the sweet candy like cherry juice the wild yeast and spices added make for an amazing tasting experience. Mouthfeel: Lighter bodied absolutely pours like champagne very effervescent great stuff not cloying at all perfect level of tartness. Drinkability: Does an amazing job of keeping this true to lambic tradition but doesn't kill me with tartness excellent balance brings incredible drinkability not too candy not too sour perfect.
02-18-2004 04:36:11 | More by WVbeergeek
5/5 rDev +18.5%
This beer pours a slightly cloudy pinkish red color, with a tiny white head that fades instantly, leaving no lace.
This beer smells tart, with a nice cherry aroma. I also smell some funky, earthy yeast. The alcohol is well hidden in the aroms. Damn, this beer smells good!
The beer tastes exactly like it smells. Tart and sour cherries. Some yeasty, earthy funk. It has a great taste to match the aroma.
This beer is sour. It leaves a tart, cherry like aftertaste. It is highly carbonated, suiting the style. Alcohol is hidden throughout.
This beer would make an excelent session beer. It tastes great, and I dont think it could get old. The alcohol content isnt too high, so I can see drinking it all night long.
Overall: This beer is great. I love it. I only wish I had access to it.
05-25-2010 03:46:34 | More by OStrungT
5/5 rDev +18.5%
11-27-2011 09:01:40 | More by girllovesbier
United Kingdom (England)
4.88/5 rDev +15.6%
What an excellent little brew. Has the colour of a Rose wine. The earthy aroma of pinot noir, the vinegary cherry tartness of a good kriek lambic, and a lovely soft oak character, very savoury, and has a refreshing acid sour/bitter flavour. I think this is the ultimate hot weather beer, extremely elegant aswell, a classic.
07-24-2002 02:31:13 | More by rastaman
4.13/5 rDev -2.1%
(Served in a tulip glass)
best before 12/20/2010
A- This beer has a dense ruby red ox blood colored body with a dept pink spongy head. There is a strong carbonation of tiny bubbles gliding up the sides of the glass. The head last for the full beer with some nice lacing as it slides back to the body after each sip.
S- The musty smell of peach fuzz gives way to a light tartness of cherries followed by a mousey note at the finish.
T- The smooth tartness of cherries has a pleasant musty basement note followed by a bright cherry acidic finish. There is a grapefruit zest quality to the cherries that comes through as it warms.
M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with a tartness that lingers after each sip.
D- This beer is a smooth lambic with a big tartness and some softer cherry flavors. There was some nice complexity that was a bit more subtle that some bigger lambics. Very nice to drink and would go well with food pairings.
11-09-2007 17:36:51 | More by rhoadsrage
4.5/5 rDev +6.6%
09-27-2013 04:19:01 | More by Reappropriated
New Jersey
4/5 rDev -5.2%
04-07-2013 22:53:58 | More by JasonSiedman
4.47/5 rDev +5.9%
75 cl bottle shared with my wife at the Brugs Beertje in Bruges at the end of our last trip here around Christmas.
The beer poured a deep red, pink tone with a wonderul pink, active bubbling head that lasted for a bit and gave way to a nice ring on the glass and good lacing. The nose was outstanding, giving ver present sour cherry notes with some complimenting hits of funk and citrus. The taste was as advertised, spectacular. The sour cherries were unfront and very present but were balanced with some funk, earthy notes. The tastes were more present as the beer warmed in our bottle and glass. There is a not of the alcohol level and the body was wonderful and very drinkable.
02-10-2008 19:02:32 | More by ggaughan
Alberta (Canada)
4/5 rDev -5.2%
750ml bottle, just a sittin' there on Alberta beer store shelves...
This beer pours a somewhat hazy, dark magenta hue, with two fingers of tight, foamy pink head, which bleeds away at a consistent, accelerated rate, leaving a few random swaths of arched lace around the glass.
It smells unexpectedly up front of bready, grainy malt, before the middling sour, acetic cherry 'fruitiness' makes itself known, with a further mild earthy funkiness, and some ethereal leafy hops. The taste is semi-sweet, and equally semi-tart, black cherry juice (very redolent of that backyard cherry liqueur my Polish friend made a few years ago), some additional acerbic lemon character, a bit of astringent, woody funk, and tame earthy, leafy hops. No evidence of any of the extra few points of booze.
The carbonation is a tad fizzy, but generally unobtrusive, the body a near-medium weight, and actually fairly smooth, another sign of the overall effects of the understated tartness. It finishes more or less dry, the muffled sourness of the fruit outweighing any hopeful strains of sweetness that may still be inadvisably lingering.
A splendid, and rather approachable cherry lambic - the intensity of the main players (for the style) at least somewhat restrained, though hardly ignored, so I can heartily recommend this for the nascent beerophile's entry into this very heady world of beer appreciation.
09-01-2012 03:50:34 | More by biboergosum
4.15/5 rDev -1.7%
Best before end 09/2012.
750mL bottle, corked and capped, with a white paper wrapper. Unlike the Gouldenberg, there is no label on the bottle itself.
Served cool into my New Belgium goblet, Kriek De Ranke is a striking ruby red color with pink head. The head settles quickly leaving no lacing behind. The clarity is nearly perfect.
Aroma is sour and tart - a good indication of what's to come. Cherries come through here but there is also a red wine character to it.
Whoa. The first sip is enough to make me stop, blink a few times, and do a double-take. This is one intense beer! It starts of with sweet cherries but quickly turns very tart, sour, and bitter. The lactic definately plays a defining role in the flavor profile of this beer.
Mouthfeel is medium-light bodied with lower than expected carbonation.
Overall a totally unique and very interesting beer. It's certainly worth seeking out if you're into lambics and sours.
07-19-2010 00:26:23 | More by GilGarp
United Kingdom (England)
3.7/5 rDev -12.3%
08-27-2014 16:02:49 | More by mattfancett
New Jersey
4.33/5 rDev +2.6%
When I read the description of this beer I was intrigued.
"A mixture of two blended and soured pale ales and Girardin Lambic".
A lot of America's extreme brewers get a lot of attention for brewing complex beers but good lambic brewing is truly a feat.
Poured a pinkish, reddish brown color with a thin white head.
Appearance is a bit murky/hazy with some sediment floating around.
Aromas were amazing! Tart, sour cherries. Melon, citrus, funky barnyard smells as well. Grass, hay, horseblanket.
Taste is sweet malt,sour/tart cherries.
Mouthfeel is light, carbonated, kind of fizzy. Very crisp and refreshing. Overall, an amazing beer.
07-04-2007 15:35:09 | More by BillyB
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Cinco de Mayo…a day for Mexican folks to display their ethnic pride and for people of all cultures to indulge in mariachi music, mouth-watering Mexican food and strong, tasty margaritas.
As legend would have it, the margarita was invented in 1941 in Ensenada, Mexico by a bartender named Don Carlos Orozco. Orozco was experimenting with mixing new drinks when a prestigious visitor arrived: Margarita Henkel, the daughter of a German ambassador. Don Carlos offered the drink to Margarita and named it after her for being the first person to taste it. So if you can believe Wikipedia (I know…I know…), the margarita was named after a German.
In any event, here are a few recipes for you to try out at home!
First, a classic margarita from the Epicurious website:
- 2 ounces tequila made from 100 percent agave, preferably reposado or blanco
- 1 ounce Cointreau
- 1 ounce freshly squeezed lime juice
- Salt for garnish
Combine tequila, Cointreau, and lime juice in cocktail shaker filled with ice. Moisten rim of Margarita or other cocktail glass with lime juice or water. Holding glass upside down, dip rim into salt. Shake and strain drink into glass and serve.
Here's a frozen margarita courtesy of drinksmixer.com:
- 2 tsp coarse salt
- 1 lime wedge
- 3 oz white tequila
- 1 oz triple sec
- 2 oz lime juice
- 1 cup crushed ice
Bobby Flay has a cool frozen watermelon margarita that serves eight:
- 5 cups cubed watermelon, seeds removed
- 1/2 cup simple syrup (equal amounts sugar and water, heated until sugar melts), cooled
- 1/2 cup fresh lime juice
- 2 cups silver tequila
- 4 ounces orange liqueur
- 2 ounces melon liqueur
- Watermelon wedges, for garnish
Place watermelon in a food processor and process until smooth. Pour the pureed watermelon into two empty ice cube trays and freeze until firm, at least four hours. Place martini glasses in the freezer to chill.
Place two cups of the watermelon ice cubes and the remaining ingredients in a blender and blend until smooth. Pour into four glasses and repeat with the remaining ingredients. Garnish each glass with a watermelon wedge.
A low-cal version comes from Cooking Light magazine. (To be honest, it looks like it's just a really small drink, but you can always have two and still feel good about yourself.)
- 1 ounce premium or silver tequila
- 1/2 ounce Cointreau or other orange-flavored liqueur
- 1.5 oz. fresh-squeezed lime juice
Combine ingredients. Shake with 3/4 cup ice; garnish with lime.
And for folks who don't drink alcohol, here's a Virgin Margarita recipe for four from lovetoknow.com.
- 1 6-ounce can frozen limeade concentrate, thawed
- 1/4 cup orange juice
- 2 tablespoons kosher salt
- 1/2 lime, cut into 4 equal size wedges
- 4 cups ice cubes
Moisten the rim of the serving glasses with a little lime juice. Put the salt in a huge saucer or shallow pie pan. Invert each glass in the salt, and gently twist to coat the rim with salt. Invert each glass in the salt, and gently twist to coat the rim. Place the limeade concentrate, orange juice and ice cubes in a blender. Pour into glasses and be careful not to disturb the salt on the rims. Garnish the viagra soft tabs 100 mg drinks with lime wedges and serve.
And finally, if you love both mojitos and margaritas and are waffling over which one to have, try a Mojarita for four, courtesy of iVillage:
- 20 fresh mint leaves, more for garnish
- 8 oz. tequila
- 2 oz. fresh lime juice
- 2 oz. agave nectar
- 4 oz. soda water to top
- 2 limes, cut into wedges
In a cocktail shaker, add torn mint leaves, lime wedges, lime juice, and muddle together allowing the flavors to marry and the aromas to release. Add two cups crushed ice and tequila. Shake well. Pour evenly into four glasses, adding additional crushed ice on top and mixing well. Top with soda water. Garnish with mint sprigs.
But if you're lazy, like me, come to the North Square lounge and have the bartender mix you up a strawberry basil margarita with jimador tequila, lime juice, strawberries and basil. Estaba delicioso!
Cheers! And enjoy the weekend, everyone!