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Inspecting the Truck: Get Help and a Creeper
July 25, 2008
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Just like back in 4-H and FFA, you want to learn how to separate the Grand Champion Bull from the bum steer that someone is steering you toward when looking for your best-used truck!
This is the report that requires work. You are in charge. You're the customer. Find out the facts about the trucks that are important to you. Where I sold trucks last, if the customer had doubts about the condition of a used truck, I would drive it in the shop where there was room and get a creeper for the customer to roll under the truck and look for oil leaks and old mud caked in the frame from extreme off road use. Some used vehicles tour auctions from around the country and come from the last hurricane, tornado or flood area. It's a smart thing to wonder about a truck that has sand and mud stuck to the starter and where do you suppose the seaweed wrapped around the U-joint came from?
When I was an auto broker with AAA Auto Club, some of the members we helped buy vehicles for, would bring along a mobile mechanic to check out a used vehicle. That's a good idea, or take the used truck that you've narrowed down, to a trusted mechanic. The mechanic will have list of checks to know if the truck's drive train is sound along the engines computers and sensors. If you are an AAA member, they have a great service to certify mechanics that you can trust.
Now get your creeper, flashlight, notepad and oil rag to have some fun on test-drives. And take long test-drives. Forget the short route with only right-hand turns that your salesperson was taught to take you on. It's your money, your time and your fun!
Shake rattle and role. Does the truck vibrate excessively at idle? Does it shimmy at highway speeds? Does it need just tire balancing or bigger parts? Oil slicks, I thought the oil went INSIDE the engine. Is oil dripping from the transmission, engine, differential, power steering, transfer case etc.? Are those same components wet with oil? Any thing else leaking, gas, antifreeze, brake fluid? Any smoke from the exhaust? Is it black, blue or white? Any holes in the bed? Are they from toolboxes or a trailer hitch?
You can get the TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) on the truck you're looking at. It will show the recalls and what modifications are sent to dealer service departments to fix known problems. Not all of it may pertain to your truck.
Do a CarFax report on the truck. Some dealers are doing this now for you. You'll want to know if the truck has a clean title or salvage title. Also take the VIN (Vehicle Identification Number usually on the left base of the windshield) to a dealer for the brand of truck you are looking at and have the service department check the history with the brands national database. Then you will know if there are any open recalls or known problems. And they can tell you if there is any remaining factory warranty left. Don't assume if the truck has less than 36,000 miles that there is warranty left. Some factory buy-back lemons go to auction and back to a car lot with low miles and no warranty.
Find out the rear axle ratio. Most trucks will have the axle code in the driver doorframe or in the inside of the glove box door. There is usually a tag on one of the differential bolts with the ratio info on it, (another reason for bringing your own creeper.) When in doubt get the service department to help you decode it. 3.55 rear axle ratio will pull smaller trailers with a ½ ton. 3.73 is better for medium loads and 4.10 does best for your biggest loads. 3.73-axle ratio is the only way the GM Duramax diesel comes. With Ford you have to go to a F350 dually to get the 4.10 option. 3.73 was standard, 3.55 is standard starting in 2008. Dodge diesels can have 3.55 or 4.10 in 2002 and older, 3.73 or 4.10 in the 2003-2006 model. 2007 plus, has an optional 3.55 axle ratio.
Look under the surprisingly new bedliner to see what the bed floor really looks like. A lot of the time the new bedliner is there to hide the holes from the gooseneck hitch. I don't worry if a truck has a rear receiver hitch especially if it was part of a factory tow package. But a hole or holes in the bed where a fifth wheel or ball was attached might be a truck to avoid unless it's exceptional in every other way. There is no way of knowing how big a trailer was pulled with the truck. Most of the folks I know, who pull trailers, usually pull a little too heavy. If the truck pulled a trailer that was thousands of pounds over the capacity, (like I would) it can strain the drive train and give you premature transmission, clutch, U-joint and axle replacement.
If you're looking at an automatic transmission, be sure to look for an external tranny cooler. No I'm not talking about the lines that go through the radiator, but a separate cooler in front of the radiator. If you are sure the truck didn't pull a trailer in a previous life, then you can add an external tranny cooler if the rest of the truck checks out.
You've been told this for years, but it's still true. Sell your trade yourself for the most money. And it's easier to know where you are in the deal if you're just working with the numbers on one truck, not a truck and a trade-in.
If the VIN checks out and the service records show the truck is clean, bring your creeper and roll underneath and look for abnormalities in the frame and look for evidence of being used off-road a lot. You know, the caked in clay inside the frame channel and bent steel brake lines and rusted shocks. Make sure the differentials, transfer case, engine and transmission aren't leaking. If you have remaining bumper to bumper factory warranty, what you find will be fixed, but if there are a lot of things wrong it will cost you too much time. Check the gaskets around the driver door, the threshold and the carpet to see if the wear matches the miles on the odometer. Check the paint for over spray by the door hinges, hood hinges and where the fenders meet the liner. Try each gear including reverse with the brake on to see how fast it engages each gear and how much play, (roll) it has. If it moves too much before you fill the axle move, you could have wear in the pinion gear or u-joints. If you hear too much noise in the tranny when you engage, then there is another problem. Once again if the truck has factory warranty, all these things can be fixed and you have peace of mind, I just don't want to see you with chronic problems. The mechanic can check how the tranny engages. And the normal stuff, seeing what comes out of the exhaust, water, oil or carbon monoxide. Checkout the 4x4, if a shift on the fly, engage the button or dial, put in 4x4 hi with the hubs in auto or lock and do the circle to see if it hops. This is what you want. Then stop the truck and put in 4x4 lo and drive slower in a circle. And if manual 4x4 do the same with the floor lever and the hubs engaged. The mechanic will have list of checks to know if the truck drive train is sound and checking computers and sensors. Some trucks have solid hubs, so they are always on and you just engage the transfer case with a lever or switch.
Newer trucks with diesels will have 5 year or 100,000 mile warranty from the factory when new, so as I stated above, have the VIN checked with the same brand service department to see if there is any warranty left. On a diesel it's important to have the mechanic check the radiator fluid and maybe have it tested for metal and oil. And the other side, check the oil and see if any water in it. With diesels it's important the radiator fluid had a conditioner added at the right service interval. If the radiator fluid gets bad it can pit the sleeves and water jacket called cavitation.
One way to look at buying a truck new or used is your future needs. Find the salesperson and dealership you trust and build a relationship. There are some good ones out there. The month I got out of the business, my oldest son rolled his truck and we had to go truck shopping. I had forgotten how hard it was. We started out going dealer to dealer, reading the paper, looking on the Internet and I just tagged along as dumb ole dad playing with my granddaughter. After my son and daughter-in-law got tired of the search and after changing their mind several times on which vehicle would work for them, they felt like most folks car shopping, frustrated! I got on the cell phone and called one of the veteran salespeople I bought from and trusted as an auto broker. I told him what they wanted and then we went and picked it up. Of course I have the advantage, knowing the dealer cost of vehicles and who to trust. But the point I was trying to make to my kids was, you're going to buy a lot of vehicles over your lifetime. Find the salesperson and dealer you trust and build a relationship and send them your friends. You still need to do price research to keep everyone honest, but in the same areas of the country used and especially new, cost all the dealers very close to the same. I would think a positive relationship with a salesperson and dealer you trust would take some of the stress out of something you will do over and over again.
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About 30 teachers, along with their union representative, crowded into the Niles School Board meeting Thursday afternoon.
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Signing the agreement was against the advice of the school boards attorney. However, they did sign.
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I saw the movie The Campaign recently and loved it. For those who have not seen it, it is a comedy about the American election process and the dirty politicking that goes with it. Low brow humour to be sure, but then again, I also liked the movie Airplane. I know what you are thinking – surely this type of humour is beneath him. Well, it isn't, and don't call me Shirley.
The Cambridge Chamber of Commerce had a breakfast meeting last week and the guest speaker was Cambridge/North Dumfries MPP Dr. Rob Leone.
Dr. Rob gave us a recap of his last year in office and some of the agenda items that have taken up our provincial government's time. These included the provincial Liberal government's first defeat in nine years of power when Dr. Rob's own bill requesting a timeline for hospital spending was passed. These hospital expenditures were the cornerstone of the Liberals' last election campaign. Unfortunately, we still don't have that timeline.
Yet another mismanagement of funds scandal was uncovered with the Ornge air ambulance debacle (just when we were starting to forget the eHealth boondoggle). This $150-million mess was vigorously debated in the legislature, but the money is still gone.
Most recently it has been the cancelled power plant fiasco. A campaign slight-of-hand that (at last count) is costing us $640 million that we don't have. It was bad enough that the Liberals engaged in this criminal endeavour, but now they have crippled Ontario by proroguing government to avoid being held accountable.
Let's take a quick look at how the next year is going to shape up. Dalton McGuinty has already indicated that the government will remain prorogued until a new leader for the Liberal party is found. This will occur at the Liberal leadership convention in February.
First thing the Liberals will have to do after they go back to work is table a budget. We can be pretty sure that whatever budget they table will be defeated and we'll be back at the polls by May. That will be just in time for the newly elected government to adjourn for summer break. That means next September our legislative process will resume.
At this point, a line from the movie The Campaign comes to mind. The incumbent candidate says in his victory speech "I am a great politician, but I am a lousy congressman."
Well Mr. McGuinty, I think this directly applies to you. You are a great politician, but a lousy premier. You have put the interests of your party before the interests of the Ontarians that elected you to power. You have displayed a wanton disregard for our trust and have at the very least condoned criminal behaviour by your party.
Your leadership ends in disgrace and the Liberal party will be voted back into the stone age in the next election. I can only hope that whoever comes into power next will not follow in your footsteps. Ontario cannot afford it.
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Mists of Pandaria Talents and Specs – DON'T PANIC
The words "DON'T PANIC" are inscribed in large, friendly letters on the front of the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
When something new comes, there's only a few different ways that people can react. If the new thing looks appealing and pleasing to the person, there's a sense of excitement and anticipation. If the new thing doesn't hold any interest to the person, there's a bunch of apathy and boredem. If the new thing looks not good at all to the person, there's a sense of doom, dread, and panic.
Something new came this week.
Earlier in the week, Blizzard released an early look at the Mists of Pandaria talent and spec calculator. It shows every class, what their new talent tree will look like, and more importantly what the different specs will look like come patch 5.0 and the release of the new expansion.
If you missed it, at BlizzCon it was revealed that talent specs are changing with MoP. Rather than just adding to a specific arsenal of abilities that every class has, each spec will become even more specialized. As an example, only Fire mages will have Fireball and only Frost mages will have Frostbolt, but every mage will have Frostfire bolt.
Between BlizzCon and now, there has been a bunch of speculation about how much each class would change. With the new calculator, it's shown that every class will be changing, but each class has differing amount of change. The pure DPS classes seem to be having less change than the hybrids, which seems to give the impression that Blizzard wants the spec to do one thing and one thing only – which is what they spec into.
The big disclaimer that has been stated is that this is a "pre-alpha" build, meaning that the information given can and more than likely will change between now and release. Bashiok said that they are giving this information out because they want to get feedback from the players and see what can be improved or tweaked. If you decide to leave a note for Blizzard, just please remember the most important thing (and Wheaton's Law): Don't Be A Dick.
Since my main is a Feral DPS Druid, I thought I'd give my impressions about that class.
One big change to Druids is one that all hybrids who can do any sort of healing are experiencing. If you're not specced into the healing tree, there will be very limited choice for what healing abilities will be present. Rather than having Healing Touch, Regrowth, Nourish, Rejuvenation, and Lifebloom – it's down to Nourish and Rejuvenation that are baseline. All of the other spells will be available at certain levels if you spec into Resto.
On the other hand, the times when a Bear could do decent DPS while not tanking are long gone. Druids are having the distinction of being the only class that will now have four specs: Balance (Moonkin), Restoration (Tree), Feral (Cat), and Guardian (Bear). If you want to be a bear, you're a tank and a tank only. Even though this is definitely a loss for Druids, it is bringing us in line with the other classes that are out there. A Protection Warrior isn't able to do good DPS while still in spec, why should a Bear be able to shift to Cat and do well?
That was definitely one of the benefits of being a Druid in the first place, and we'll still have a limited capacity for it with the level 90 talent of Heart of the Wild (there are some bloggers out there who think that it will not be very useful at all – which I'm inclined to agree with). However, Druid specs will most definitely be very specialized.
The biggest news that I've seen so far is the new level 87 ability called Symbiosis. The text reads: "Creates a symbiotic link which grants the druid one ability belonging to the target's class, varying by the druid's specialization. In exchange, grants the target one druid ability based on their class and combat role. Lasts 1 hour and persists through death."
On first glance, this looks absolutely amazing. Of course, this likely means that it won't be as amazing as we hope it will be. Lissanna at Restokin gave a really good writeup about how she thinks it will work, and I think she has the right idea. It will probably take a specific ability from each class, rather than taking a random one, and since it will last an hour and persists through death it shouldn't be left up to chance. Unfortunately, this won't be able to be properly tested until the beta comes out, so until then we'll be left with speculation (unless Blizzard decides to give us details about how it exactly works… /wink).
As with expansions in the past, we just have to get used to the "new normal". There are things we may not like, but at the moment they're not set in stone. If this is how things look when MoP is launched, then there might be some other words being used at the time.
I think that things are going in the right track, but will definitely need some tweaking. While we see the specs make the player focus on a specific role, there are then talents which encourage us to do other roles… but we won't have as many tools to do said roles. It just doesn't make much sense to me now. We'll see how things go as time progresses – just remember, the game isn't even close to being out yet.
There are times when I wish I wasn't as accommodating. Yet, I only have myself to blame for it. I try to do things with the best intentions, but sometimes things just don't work out.
In this case, it all has to do with my DPS specs. A while back now, I decided to change from feral cat DPS to a boomkin because the guild needed more ranged people. I volunteered, because I always wanted to try the spec out and see what it's like. One of the biggest problems is that I barely make it to the raids due to real life schedules, so in the end I didn't really do much to help the guild out with getting a ranged class.
Finding that I was missing being feral DPS, I decided to change my second spec (feral tanking, which I had not used once since I got the spec set up and reforged all the gear) back to a kitty and tried it out in a heroic to see how I would do. For comparison, as a boomkin I would average around 8-10k DPS – which is not very good at all – by any comparison for my gear level.
My first thought was: "Why in the world did I ever switch?"
After doing a heroic Zul'Aman, my average DPS for the entire instance was around 13.6k, and my highest was around 18k for Nalorakk. At first I thought it was just that instance, but after thinking more I realized that it's just something I'm so used to doing that it flows easier.
One thing I was really bad about as a boomkin was my DoT uptime. There were some fights where I was below 30%, because I just forgot to reapply it with being so focused on my regular rotations. Fortunately as a kitty, the DoTs that I use aer some of the most important parts of my rotation and come naturally. That in itself is a great way to make sure I don't slack.
Plus, I found I was getting bored with being a boomkin. There were definitely fun parts about it, but altogether I was finding that I was just there and not being very excited to instance or raid at all. Perhaps that's how I got my priest to 85 so quickly, because I just wasn't feeling it.
Whatever the case, I'm definitely back to being a feral DPS spec. I had so much fun with it through my first instance, I don't care how many rogues and other ferals I have to beat up to get my gear. As well, if I needed any other reason, the staff that Fandral will drop from Firelands in 4.2 turns cat form into a fire cat form. 'Nuff said. I'm back to a melee state of mind.
Ways to Suck Less
One of my gaming New Year's Resolutions was to suck less. Unfortunately, this resolution hasn't been something that I've been the best at keeping. Fortunately I'm not failing completely, but I'm still in the process of learning my new role as a boomkin, so there is still that curve to adjust to. I was giving some thought to ways that I can improve, and I came up with the following three points:
1. Use cooldowns appropriately
Abilities have cooldowns for a reason – a decision has to be made as to when the most they will be the most beneficial. Don't just use a cooldown when it's up, make sure that it is put to the best use possible. Using Starfall in conjunction with Lunar Eclipse is an example of a small thing that can help boost damage without needing to do too much extra work. Along the same line, using Treants during the air phase of a dragon encounter isn't really the best timing.
2. Many abilities, handle them!
I'm guilty of forgetting to use certain abilities, but at the same time I use certain others that my raid leader has looked at the combat log and said – "… and you threw in a few random typhoons, I see?" Basically, don't forget what is available. My personal problem is forgetting to use Wild Mushroom, as I started out as feral and always thought it wasn't a very good ability to use. The damage was low, the mana cost was high, it was useless. Then Magmaw came around, and I was told in no uncertain terms that I could have used them to help with the adds.
3. Be situationally aware
Again, with my switch from melee to ranged damage, this is a big key for me. Know what is going on around you at all times, and what could happen to you. Good practice for this is the first boss in Deadmines, which gives the achievement "Ready for Raiding" for a reason: if you avoid all the junk that he deals, it's a good indication that raiding is on the way for you.
These three simple things will help anyone raid better, and hopefully I'll be able to remember these things as well. Any class can benefit from these tips, once I have more experience under my belt I'll try to make one that's more boomkin-specific.
Making Decisions
I hate making decisions with a passion. I truly do not like choosing something and being stuck with it, out of fear that it wasn't the right thing to do. This ranges from the very small things like what to have for meals (ask my wife, she'd be more than happy to elaborate) and things to do, to very big things like buying a house, making a large purchase, or having kids. I like to think, think again, then think even more about all the options and choices that are out there. Even once I'm sure I know the right thing to do, I sometimes still hold off on making that decision.
Previously I've mentioned that I'm an altaholic. This definitely stems from my indecisiveness, as it gives me something to do that's different without having to worry about making a big change for my main character. Even choosing a main character for myself was a very difficult thing to do for a while during the Burning Crusade expansion, as I was enjoying three different classes in different ways. I'm now faced with a similar choice as I was back then, which is how to enjoy playing my main character.
One of my favourite posts that I've written was all about my gradual shift from caster classes to melee classes over the years. To this day, a majority of the classes that I play are melee, and I've found that I have more fun with them. A shift in our guild has had me thinking about changing it up a bit, to try something that I've always wanted to do but never really had the chance to pursue it fully.
The mythical crit-chicken, the boomkin, the oomkin: the Moonkin.
Over the years I've tried the spec a few times, with not the best success. The first time was due to the old eclipse mechanic and the rotation – I just couldn't get the hang of it. The second time was at the end of Wrath after 4.0.1 came out and the talent trees changed, but my gear wasn't very good and my damage suffered because of it. Now, with the updated talent trees along with better gear, I'm getting into the groove of it.
My feral druid damage is quite good. Not the best, but on a single-target DPS race I can get in the top three consistently. The problem with changing specs and gearing up again is that there's the curve where the damage dealt is not nearly as good, and it can be quite disheartening. Fortunately with every heroic that I run, if I'm not getting better gear from drops I am at least saving up for more gear from Justice Points. Right now I still have a few green and blue quest rewards, and a few crafted pieces as well – nowhere near the best gear that I can get.
For the first few heroic runs, I find that I'm having fun with it. To be honest I was almost hoping that I would not like it, just so that I would convince myself to stay with the way things are right now. My overall damage and DPS is decent for the heroic tier, nowhere near ready for raiding, but enough to be competitive.
This means I have to make another decision. Do I help the guild out by giving them a boomkin, since we have no leather casters? If I do, do I keep my second spec as feral DPS or do I try tanking again? Making decisions truly is not my strong spot. Any advice people can leave in the comments is truly appreciated.
Altaholic-ness, Redux
A while back, I mentioned how much I enjoy leveling alts. To this day the trend continues, and unfortunately Cataclysm has made it even easier to enjoy this hobby. The addition of new races, new race/class combinations, and the complete redesign of the level 1-60 leveling process was just a bit of encouragement. Then I go and splurge on all three heirloom cloaks from guild rep, making it that much easier.
My habit has continued, and it has flourished.
One big thing that I'm a bit surprised about is that two classes that I enjoyed quite a bit before have not interested me as much now. The Warlock, my very first class that I got to the level cap with on the Horde side in Vanilla, has no presence on my character list at all. I tried rolling one a few times, but it's just not doing it for me right now. Perhaps later. The Death Knight, a class that I thoroughly enjoyed back in WotLK, is now my bank alt. I have one that I'm trying to level through Outland right now, but I think it might be more of that continent's fault than the DK class itself.
My Shaman just recently hit 65 after simmering on the backburner for a while. I wanted to get geared up and ready for heroics and raids before I focused too much on any alt for a little bit. Now that I'm raiding again (woot!), I've been slowly working him through Outland. As I mentioned before, it really is a chore to get through the BC content. I remember trying to rush as fast as possible to 58 so we could get away from the junk of Vanilla content – oh, how times have changed.
There's the hunter who's in the late thirties. I was going pretty steady with it for a while, but I've lost interest in it for the moment. These phases come and go quite quickly with various classes and how I feel with it. On our old server, I was leveling a rogue with my wife and was having a blast. I tried rolling a rogue a few times already, and it's just not doing anything for me right now. More than likely, it's too close to the cat druid that I work on mostly right now.
One character that I was looking forward to rolling at Cataclysm was my goblin priest, and she's been quite a bit of fun. Checking out the talent trees previously, Discipline looked like a great spec to try out for leveling as it had a good mixture of damage and healing abilities. So far I've leveled exclusively through the dungeon finder from level 15 on, just to work on my skills so when I hit a higher level I'm not completely out of it. I'm only level 29, so it's not really too big of a challenge, but it's been a good experience so far.
Lastly, I have lowbies of the rest of them: paladin, mage, and warrior. I've played a paladin and mage to level cap previously and enjoyed it, and the highest I've ever gotten a warrior was to the mid twenties. Some of the higher levels that I have right now are going to be DPS and healing, so I'm thinking a tanking warrior would be fun. Heirloom shield please?
I enjoy the different experiences that I have on each character when I play them. Each has their own different feel, their own nuances that I have to figure out – it's nice to have such flexibility within the game. Plus, this is all on the Horde side. If I wanted something completely new, I'd work on my Alliance characters… maybe.
Druid New Year's Resolutions
The new year is finally upon us, and it's at this time that many people look behind at what was and look forward to what will come. I've done a lengthy series of retrospectives, so I think that can count as my looking behind part. That being said, I'd like to set myself some goals for my main character, my Druid.
- Don't suck. I know that should be standard and not necessary to put on this list, but I think it's important to include here. There are many ways to suck at WoW, and I don't want to be one of "those guys" who can't play his class well. I may not be the top performer, but I want to do my job properly. Not only do I have to play my class properly, but I also have to play where I am properly – know the dungeon or raid I'm in, and react accordingly, for example.
- Know my role. Right now my main spec is feral DPS in cat form, which has been my main spec for a few years now. Thankfully there hasn't been much change to how things operate and only minor tweaks, so that's not too much of a big deal. My secondary spec is restoration, which is quite a bit different for me. I've played a healing class before, and even had it as my main spec on my Paladin back in Burning Crusade – but the playstyle of a Holy Paladin versus a Resto Druid is completely different. I'm not playing healing whack-a-mole anymore, but learning how to anticipate what is going to happen and be ready for it.
- Don't get frustrated. Too many times, I see myself get frustrated with some aspect of the game. I was in a random group on my lowbie priest the other day, and I was getting mad at the tank because he wasn't holding aggro – but it was his first time tanking, and druid tanks aren't the best at low levels – and everyone needs to learn. I'm going to be in this same position when I work up the courage to do a random group as a healer, and I'm pretty sure it won't be pretty. (This is one benefit of having a guild – guinea pigs for my starting attempts)
- Have fun. After everything is said and done, this is still a game. A lot of people seem to forget that, and from time to time I've been equally as guilty. When things get too bad: take a breather, go watch TV, read a book, talk to your spouse, do something to get away from the computer. Find your happy place, go there, and relax. Instances, PvP, guild politics, you name it – they can all wait. This is a game, and treat it as such. (World of Warcraft is serious business, right?)
I want to get better at the game. I look forward to our raids, and I'm disappointed if I'm not near the top for my performance. At the same time, I am glad when I'm not the one that gets blamed for wipes or (even worse) is the actual cause for the wipes. Enjoyable time in the game is what brings people back, and I think that's really the core of what I want to accomplish.
The Shaman experiment
Not too long ago, I started a new character as an alt to work on while I waited to transfer my main over from another server. As I've mentioned before, our guild decided to move from Vek'nilash to Thrall in the interests of getting a better pool of raiders to make better progress. We had our date of the move, but there was about a month or so of time in between. As I've also mentioned, I'm an altaholic, so I was quite excited about being able to start brand new characters and do the leveling experience again – even moreso with the changes coming in Cataclysm.
I had a hard time deciding what class to work on. There were a few that I wanted to try, mainly ones that I had difficulty leveling or staying focused on in the past. Ultimately, I decided on rolling a new Troll Shaman. As of right now, I think I made a wise decision.
Currently, I only have three characters at level 80: a Druid, Paladin, and Shaman. For whatever reason, the hybrid classes seemed to be a good fit for me. However, I've only put significant effort into my Druid (currently my main) and my Paladin (a former main), while getting bored of my Shaman incredibly fast. This is quite disappointing, since I put a fair amount of money into him, getting epic flying and dual spec. If I would have known that I wasn't going to stick with it, I most definitely wouldn't have spent that extra 6000 gold.
This time I'm doing things a bit differently. When I leveled my first Shaman, I had done it as Elemental with a Resto offspec, with the heirloom shoulders only. This time I'm doing it as Enhancement with no current offspec (but will eventually do a Resto offspec), with both the heirloom shoulders and chest, as well as two heirloom maces. I had gotten to the early 30s without any heirlooms, since I was waiting to transfer things over from the old server, and even while doing that I found it to be incredibly fun.
Once I was able to get the heirlooms over, along with patch 4.0.1 hitting, I went from doing decently to hitting like a truck. I was able to kill elites who were four levels higher than me and barely needing to heal myself afterwards. I'm currently level 44 going between Tanaris and Feralas, and still having a great deal of fun. So far the only thing that I'm not particularly liking is the lack of cleansing. I miss being able to have a poison and disease cleanse while being Enhancement, which made leveling even easier.
Blizzard recently announced some changes to damage dealt at the lower levels, as they say it's currently a little overpowered. As much as I hate to say this, I agree completely. That being said, I'm certainly not complaining about it at all. As long as I can continue to solo elites, I'll be one very happy person.
Trying the Shaman again was a big experiment. I wanted to have a character who was versatile and not locked in to one role, but was able to do well at whatever spec I chose. Enhancement is definitely a winner in the new talent tree revamp. This experiment has gone well, and I look forward to continuing it.
Melee state of mind
For the longest time, I was always the same type of character when I played any game. If there was a magic-dealing ranged class, that was me. I was your typical "mage"-class player, for my gaming career up until about three years ago. It was then that I seem to have had a bit of a shift in my mindset of what I enjoy, and I learned to love melee classes.
My very first MMO was a game called Nexus: The Kingdom of the Winds (which is pretty much dead by all accounts now). It's a standard 2.5D top-down RPG where you do the normal stuff: you level up, you kill stuff, you quest, you gain levels, you grow in power. My very first character was a healer, and when I got bored of that, my main character ended up being a mage. I got fairly powerful (by standards of the day), but never near the top of the power listings. I enjoyed being able to blow things up from afar, trying to stay away from those who would tear me apart.
When I started World of Warcraft, my first character was a Druid. I had no clue how to properly play the game at the time, and somehow ended up speccing into the Balance tree. This was back in Vanilla, while the trees were still very broken, and I stopped playing for a while. When I came back, I re-rolled as a Mage, and once again was loving it. I could shoot stuff from my hands, blow things up, and still be far enough away that I (hopefully) shouldn't die. When we re-rolled to Vek'nilash, my first Horde character was an Orc Warlock, and the time of bliss continued.
It was when Burning Crusade released that things started to change. I had decided to re-roll as a Paladin to help the guild out with class balance, and through the process of leveling up I found out that being a melee class wasn't so bad after all. I may get hit more often, but there were ways to accomodate that. Once I had hit level 70, I did my time as a healer, so I returned to the back of the raid with my healy hands.
I forget when exactly through Burning Crusade that my wife started to play, but it was at that time that I rolled a Druid to level up with her new Shaman. I specced into Feral, since I read that it was the best one for leveling, and thus began my time as full-time melee. We did quite well while leveling, as long as one of us reminded the other when our health or mana was low. All in all, the process to get to level 70 was quite fun and easy.
I tore things up as a cat, and I got hit in the face as a bear. Through Wrath, I've been able to be near or at the top of the charts for DPS, while mastering a very complicated rotation (JFM, anyone?). It gives me a great deal of satisfaction that I can do something well, while still having fun. Going from 70 to 80 was a breeze, and I rarely had to get help for group quests or elite mobs.
To this day, I still have my Feral Druid as my main character, and I plan on keeping it that way for a while. Until the class isn't fun anymore, I finally found something that I can enjoy and stay competetive in a raid environment.
It's amazing what happens when you give something a try, isn't it?


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4.5/5 rDev +3.9%
06-08-2013 18:00:22 | More by billyshears
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North Carolina
3.9/5 rDev -9.9%
On tap at Sessions in Greensboro.Poured into a tulip glass a deep ruddy brown mixed with a cherry color with a fluufy off white head atop.Deep sour cherry and dry sherry notes in the nose,a little intimidating for a non-sour lover like me.Sherry-like woody flavors mixed with sour cherries on the palate,when I say sour I mean sour like sherry vinegar and tart cherries.IT's a great beer for what it is,Iam not a huge fan of the style but I know it fits the bill very well.
05-06-2012 21:28:40 | More by oberon
4/5 rDev -7.6%
05-12-2014 12:26:55 | More by braugon
Ontario (Canada)
4.5/5 rDev +3.9%
03-14-2014 23:35:27 | More by beerhunter13
4.43/5 rDev +2.3%
Picked up a four-pack of this at a local liquor store; three batches later and Batch 01 is still sitting there on the shelf. The beer pours a muddled and fairly deep shade of brown, looking more like a dense, dark red or ruby color when held to the light. From a distance, the beer could fool you for an Oud Bruin, but it is indeed a Flanders Red. The cap is a fast growing, big-bubbled, soapy formation that sinks immediately a skin, and leaves some nice lacing in the process.
The aroma is fantastic; right on par for the style, only taking it up another notch in the complexity. Sour and rich black cherries, grape skins, wet oak, heavy vinegar, tart lemon, and the lightest inclusion of vanilla and cocoa. Extremely vinous, acidic, and tart - my nostrils are flaring at the thought of how sour this is going to be. The layered aspect of the aromatic profile is wonderful.
Balsamic vinegar notes are also abound on the nose, though not as powerful and forward as in something like Rodenbach Grand Cru. Another heap of vinous oak, cherries, and apples round out the edges and have me sitting there in a daze. Just from the aroma, I know this beer is going to taste wonderful, and I couldn't be more excited to bring it to my face.
And, wow! I'm immediately taken back as a tsunami of sour cherries, vinegar, grapes, oak, lactic acid, and vanilla washes over my taste buds and instantaneously sets off the alarm in my saliva glands. Puckering isn't a strong enough word to describe the tartness of this beer - it surely is a doozy. The fruits are extremely vibrant and just pop out with each and every sip.
The authentic, layered labyrinth of flavors from the aroma translates nicely on the palate; the cherry sourness, grape and wine vinous notes, acetic and lactic acid, mild vanilla and cocoa undertones, and the dry oak and barrel profiles all work together to form a complete nirvana for the senses. Very harmonious in nature, and executed elegantly. The body is thin-medium with high carbonation; slick, oily, and wet on the palate, despite the dry finish.
Seriously awesome beer, and I can't believe you can find this stuff on the shelves regularly. Well... at least whenever they release a new batch. I believe this is aged for about 18 months in oak barrels, and you can definitely tell. Super complex, tart, dry, layered; completely drinkable despite the heavy acidity and sharpness it provides the mouth. Top notch and highly recommended.
06-05-2013 11:40:28 | More by tectactoe
North Carolina
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07-21-2014 12:23:23 | More by CavemanRamblin
4.5/5 rDev +3.9%
08-13-2013 20:18:24 | More by Zakk
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07-26-2014 04:21:28 | More by Schlais
4.88/5 rDev +12.7%
11.2 oz. bottle poured into a basic tulip glass.
I've had the beer several times on tap and enjoyed it, it wasn't until bottles came to Chicago that I really thought how awesome this beer is.
It pours a deep crimson/ruby with a light ivory head and low amount of lacing. Tiny bubbles rest on the surface.
The aroma is nearly perfect, it strikes a balance between sweet cherry aromas and the nose tingling acid with just a little caramelized sugar.
The flavor is just perfect. It's everything I'm looking for in a Flanders Red. It's just got bit of candy sugar sweetness up front. Then the tart mouth puckering acid develops. It's not nearly as acidic as a good lambic but it's also not a straight lacto sour either. It really toes the delicate line between complimentary vinegar flavor and just pour it on a salad. I just love it. Tart cherry flavors all over and it finishes with a nice sour patch kid thing.
The carb is just right, gentle and present but not too high as to increase the harsh flavors. The aftertaste consist soley of lingering acid, just like the aftertaste of a sour candy.
To keep it short this is probably the best Flanders Red I've ever had, Oude Tart can give it a good run for it's money though. Flanders is my favorite style as well so I've tasted a few in my life. It's just outstanding and only better that's it now widely available year round and only $22 per 4 pack.
02-21-2012 01:44:33 | More by weatherdog
4.5/5 rDev +3.9%
01-20-2013 23:37:27 | More by tbryan5
New York
4.25/5 rDev -1.8%
01-19-2013 16:28:41 | More by SkiBum22
4.5/5 rDev +3.9%
07-04-2014 15:21:40 | More by bsideone
4.25/5 rDev -1.8%
07-10-2014 14:37:11 | More by joemetric
New York
4.5/5 rDev +3.9%
03-31-2014 03:34:00 | More by jeagleton
New Jersey
4.75/5 rDev +9.7%
07-15-2013 18:27:31 | More by Kjanisch7
4/5 rDev -7.6%
09-17-2012 01:06:19 | More by danthehopslamman
4.5/5 rDev +3.9%
02-10-2013 02:21:52 | More by gregmoscetti
4.25/5 rDev -1.8%
02-28-2014 20:37:41 | More by DaftPatrick
3.5/5 rDev -19.2%
09-08-2012 18:22:38 | More by heddar33
4.5/5 rDev +3.9%
06-09-2013 03:02:03 | More by warnerry
4/5 rDev -7.6%
04-18-2013 05:01:30 | More by Callmecoon
Rhode Island
5/5 rDev +15.5%
08-10-2014 01:09:16 | More by Doomcifer
New York
5/5 rDev +15.5%
05-05-2014 13:15:41 | More by BillKuhnel
4.5/5 rDev +3.9%
04-29-2012 05:17:20 | More by codysjb
4.53/5 rDev +4.6%
Pours a nice one and a half fingers worth of a foamy white head. Very clear deep amber/mahogany body. A nice white ring of head remains throughout, some lacing.
Smells of apple vinegar, carmel, light funk like a wild sour, light oakyness, tart cherry and some bready malts.
Big tart sour cherry funkyness. Like a fermented cherry pie. Light toffee and carmel. Light oakyness and apple cider vinegar in the taste as well. Quite sour mid palate, like a big sweet tart candy.
Medium thin bodied, medium carbonation. This feels quite smooth and pleasant at first. Yet quite dry and puckering on the finish.
Overall this is a very satisfying and tasty sour beer. Great sourness combined with a great base beer. I'd easily get this again. This is in a ball park of a Rodenbach but the mix of bug's is fairly different.
$6.50 a small bottle
05-12-2012 22:38:32 | More by Homebrew35
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Washington put together three quality quarters against Forest Park Saturday. However, the game has four.
Forest Park defeated Washington, 48-43, to even its record at 2-2. The Rangers had suffered a difficult loss at Class A No. 1 Loogootee the night before, 34-33.
It appeared Forest Park was going to go 0-2 for the weekend after the Hatchets worked their way to a 39-32 lead after the opening three quarters.
And that lead was only seven because the Rangers got the final two points of the period.
"You can¹t play 23 minutes and expect to win a 32-minute ballgame, "Washington coach Gene Miiller said. "That's what we tried to do.² Washington (1-3) recovered from an early 10-4 in the first period to take a
12-10 advantage, and Washington held onto the lead at the half 22-21.
Washington then opened the seven-point lead after three periods. The Hatchets were coming off their first win of the season with a 57-24 home decision against Edgewood the previous evening.
But the Hatchets went cold in the final quarter, scoring four points on free throws from Cullen Arnold before he made a basket four seconds remaining and the decision decided.
Washington went 9:48 without a basket from Tyler Stoll¹s score with 1:27 left in the third for the 39-30 lead before Arnold¹s final score.
"I thought we played pretty well with some good basketball," Miiller said.
"But then in the final nine minutes we simply fell apart." Forest Park turned up defensive pressure in the final quarter. The game's tempo was increased, and while neither team was especially efficient with the basketball, the change hurt the guests more than the hosts.
Drew Messmer, who finished with 16 points for Forest Park, put the Rangers ahead for good at 42--41 with two free throws with 5:19 to play.
The teams then traded eight consecutive turnovers before Ranger Lance Buechler made two free throws with 1:50 left.
That was followed by two more turnovers before Forest Park ended the game with four points before the layin by Arnold.
The Hatchets had used Arnold in the opening three quarters for 16 of his game-high 20 points. Stoll had eight points and Jarrod Purdue seven in a balanced attack, using both inside and outside resources.
"We got the ball into him (Arnold) and he was able to score," Miiller said.
"I think the big thing in the fourth quarter ‹ we had seven turnovers in the quarter. We didn't have many shots. We had nine turnovers to that point.
It's hard to win with seven turnovers in a quarter. The Rangers applied more pressure than they had used earlier, although the hosts had pressed at times in the opening half.
"We quit handling the basketball, we quit playing defense," Miiller said.
"We went back to missing layups again. You can¹t do that on the road against good people. For 23 minutes, I thought we played really well. We scored four points in the last nine minutes of play. You¹re not going to win ballgames doing that." Stoll, Andy and Colten Garland all picked up their fourth fouls in the final quarter as Washington was whistled for 20 fouls to nine for the Rangers.
Buechler also was tabbed with his fourth in the final quarter for Forest Park.
The Rangers enjoyed a 15-21 to 2-3 advantage from the foul line, but the Hatchets did little to influence a change with an offense that either looked for jumpers or passes to Arnold near the basket.
Washington had 20 field goals to 15 for the Rangers, but of those 20, 19 came in the opening three quarters.
Washington won the junior varsity game, 60-57.
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San Francisco's slippery slope is chafing
By Nato Green
This week, the San Francisco Board of Supervisors passed a ban on public nudity on a party line vote. By "party line," I mean the Supes voting against nudity are the ones who never go to parties with lines of coke or conga lines. I'm not saying every single one of the progressive supervisors could be found in the naked suntan lotion massage yurt at Burning Man, just that it's conceivable.
The ban was proposed by District 8 Supervisor Scott Wiener, and supported by the "moderates," who are Very Serious about sensible governance. First of all, anyone who ever made fun of Supervisor Eric Mar's happy meal ban owes him an apology. Second, obviously all other problems in the City have been solved, which has freed up the Supes to kowtow to the whims of the gayeoisie.
People are worried about the effects of aggressive nudity on children, but fortunately we've gentrified all the families out of the City. Now we'll have to export nudists to Solano County if we want kids subjected to them. At any rate, during a nippy San Francisco winter it's vitally important for children to learn about shrinkage.
Nudity doesn't necessarily harm children. I grew up in San Francisco. In the '70s. Naked people were everywhere, bare and unshaven. I didn't see a fully-clothed adult until I was nine. I didn't see nakedness as sexual, so much as simply covered in naked. Partly because then, as now, the specific naked people were not easy on the eyes. Not to promote normative body images, but if Christina Hendricks and Ryan Gosling showed up naked, the ensuing celebration by all sexualities would make the Giants Victory Parade look like a tupperware party.
Worst of all, nudity was banned in the Castro. If there's one neighborhood that arguably draws its spirit from the brandishing of genitalia, it's the Castro. Harvey Milk did not march so his grandchildren could sequester the penis. It's almost as if the City wanted to abolish hippies sitting on the sidewalk in the Haight-Ashbury. (Damn you, sit/lie.)
If we're going to ban sitting on the sidewalk in the Haight and nudity in the Castro, here are more options for possible legislation to achieve the goal of draining our neighborhoods of their distinguishing features.
We should also ban:
Bernal Heights—dykes with dogs.
Mission—fixed-gear bicycles, ironic mustaches, and salvadoreños.
Richmond—Irish pubs with actual Irish people.
Noe Valley—strollers and handmade baby food.
Western Addition—Black people. Whoops. Too late.
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We can't have different laws for each zip code.
I did like your line about the Supes who supported this are all "boring" though. Kinda like rich people, huh?
You lost, and rightly so. Give it up and move on.
Yes, we can have different laws for different neighborhoods, it happens all of the time.
something west of, say, Sanchez, then the illegal activity will just migrate to 50 yards east of there.
There are straights and families in Castro and gays in other area's. We've already created too many homogeneous ghetto's in SF - separate laws for each zip code would just accelerate that discriminatory process of balkanization.
Anyway, it's done. Scott listens to his constituents - such a radical political idea huh?
You really don't know whether the urban nudists would move 50 yards away from Castro between Market and 18th because the main driver of their exhibitionist conduct is the presence of a constant flow of people to watch them in the Castro and Upper Market NCDs.
Conduct controls like no skateboarding on the sidewalk often follow zoning districts, this is not unprecedented.
told him it was important. If even people in Castro want to ban nudity, it is safe to assume that all other area's of the city would too.
The problem with this lie that you and others keep promoting is that others of "his own constituents" told him they OPPOSED a nudity ban. He ignored those "constituents" in order to help advance his political career. And that's what this is about. But many are too gullible and naive to see it as such. And of course his conservative disciples (might you be one?) never would be admit that's what this about.
Also, you wrote:
>>>If even people in Castro want to ban nudity<<<
That should read if one is being truthful and objective versus having an agenda:
>>>If even SOME people in Castro want to ban nudity<<<
Because I'm in the Castro and opposed the ban. It's not as black/white as you and other conservatives insist on presenting it.
The consensus both among my (gay) neighbors and from what Scott says that he is being told locally, is that the residents are sick and tired of these exhibitionists disgusting people, and that they add nothing to our community. Indeed, they detract from it.
When even gays in the Castro want these guys gone, you KNOW you're on a losing bet.
Oh you're going by what "Scott says." Isn't that wonderful. This is the same Scott that said that the naked guys were "taking over" and "invading" the Warner Plaza for his conservative agenda. A local blog site went to the Warner Plaza at the warmest part of the day for 2 weeks. They found that on average there were 2 naked guys in the Plaza.
TWO. Two is "taking over?" Two is "an invasion?"
So in Scott's mind, 2 naked guys is "an invasion" and "taking over the plaza" and "taking over the streets." Sigh. I think I would take with the value of a speck of dust anything that "Scott says" (to advance his conservative agenda).
The few naked guys are only "disgusting" (your word) to people with body-image issues that they like to project on other. Your "disgusting people" [sic] hate speaks volumes about you and your agenda. And unfortunately I know there are other haters like you in the Castro as the Castro becomes more and more conservative and gentrified.
You're probably not even gay, yet you claim to know what's best for us.
Take a hike.
I do live in the Castro and I'm Queer.
"yet you claim to know what's best for us."
You seem to be doing that. What I've done is challenge your lies and conservative bull shit. Apparently you're not used to that.
constituents have is not muni, or fixing the streets, or crime.
It is the naked guys.
He responded to that anger. That's his job and he's done it.
"When even gays in the Castro want these guys gone..."
Again, SOME gays. The word SOME doesn't seem to be in your vocabulary.
And some gays can be as hateful as anyone else. One's sexuality orientation doesn't stop one from being hateful. You're a perfect example of that.
Some gays want the compulsive exhibitionists gone from the Castro and the response to that was to ban non-exhibitionist, casual nudity citywide for everyone?
The voters have spoken, our representatives ahev decided, and the issue is not resolved.
You don't like it? Ask me about all thing things I don't like. Then grow up.
There was occasional nudity for decades without incident before the urban exhibitionists arrived on the scene. Now all of that is criminalized by those who want a smaller, less intrusive government. Makes perfect sense.
the voters and residents of the Castro for wanting them banned.
Of course the exhibitionists picked a fight that they could not win and that gave Scott Wiener an opportunity to legislate in a way that not only solved his small problem but punished other non offensive people for not doing anything wrong.
A small minority abuse things and so a law gets passed to deal with that tiny minority. Laws are essentially reactive and get written only for the exceptions and the minority that spils things for the rest of us.
The gay community itself could have dealt with this internally, but were not inclined to do so. That made a legislative ban was inevitable.
It's always the fringe that messes things up.
There is no gay community central board that asserts authority over anyone. Several of the "urban nudists" are hets. The law should limit itself to restricting problem conduct and go no further. In this case, the conservatives legislated a radical solution to a limited problem, belying their claims to support a limited government that stays off of peoples' backs.
"Scott listens to his constituents"
Reality: He "listens" to the ones he agrees with for his (and your) conservative agenda.
And it's not done, because the lawsuit is in progress. You must not keep up. Typical. Even if the lawsuit is struck down, the ban doesn't go into effect until in February. And how will this ban be enforced? When we have bans and laws against others things and they aren't enforced. For example, there's an ordinance against smoking in the Warner Plaza. Yet I see people smoking in or around the Warner Plaza. The ordinance is not enforced.
But I guess the conservative loons (they call themselves "moderates" to fool the gullible) think that nudity is much more harmful than second-hand smoke.
"not enforced". I think Ross discovered that is not true.
You sound bitter about this and losing is never easy. But it's really a struggle to come up with a rational argument why people should be allowed to strut naked when a clear majority of Castro residents clearly don't want that.
And Scott is popular here in the Castro (I've no idea where you live but I'll guess not here) because rather than impose his own ideology, he acts as a representative. Crazy idea, huh?
You should pick you battles, dude, and right now you're not picking well.
Deliberately missing the point I was making is what trolls do, and that's what you are. You're a troll for your Scott. I've seen the Scott trolls on other message forums, or are they all you? So you and your Scott can find someone else to give you the attention you both crave.
across the city. Accept it.
The lawsuit is going to go nowhere. Berkeley has had an anti-nudity ordinance for over 20 years and when it was enacted the nudists tried suing on First Amendment grounds as well. The courts ruled in favor of the city. Other cities have anti-nudity ordinances and the courts have consistently ruled that the bans do not violate a person's FA rights. You must not keep up.
How will this ban be enforced? Simple. A cop sees a naked person walking around, he goes up to him and gives him a ticket. It's the same as if someone were driving around with their music too loud, or had tinted windows, or were jaywalking. Is it always enforced? No. But it can be. Just like the anti-smoking ordinance.
It would be really great if the liberals in this town could find something more worthy and noble to fight for than the "rights" of some fat, old, bald queen to expose himself.
My point was that sit-lie is (fortunately) not enforced, if only selectively. So why would THIS ban be enforced? My point was that we have these ordinances/laws/bans which are often UNenforced (that means not enforced). They are just feel-good, reactionary laws/ordinances to pacify the right-wing (like you?) who want them for their hateful reasons. The cops have nothing better to do with their time than give a citation to a naked person? No crimes to be solved anywhere? That was my point which went way over your head.
We get you're angry about this law. Hey, there are laws I don't like either. But don't make the mistake of thinking this new law won't be enforced. Many of my neighbors will make very sure that it is, even if we have to execute a citizen's arrest.
Never under-estimate an angry populace. And their ability to get the cops to do their job.
"No, your point barely registered at all."
Well I can believe that. There has to be something there for it to register with.
Got it.
You're right. Cops also shouldn't pull someone over for loud music. Or for tinted windows. Next time I'm smoking at an ATM or in the park don't complain to a cop because they should have better things to do than hassle me. Those are just feel good, reactionary laws/ordinances to pacify the left-wing who want them for hateful reasons. There are murders and robberies that they should be dealing with.
But I bet you weren't complaining when the supervisors put in that idiot bag fee or banned toys from Happy Meals that didn't fit their nutritional standard. Or trying to force gun legislation that makes it illegal for a person to store a gun in their house without a lock. Don't the supervisors have better things to do than pass laws to satisfy people like you?
I voted against the gun control law, having grown up in Texas I'm not one of those anti-gun nuts. The Happy Meals thing was just silly.
But we've got to cut down our waste stream and bag fees are one way to move in that direction.
but somewhat disagree about the happy meals. Remember the outcome was that due to national media attention McDonalds reduced the unhealthy quantities of fat and salt in the children's portions.
My kids have never been uncomfortable by seeing nudity in San Francisco before. In fact, I have only ever heard adults take issue with it, so when you say "there are families" what you mean to say is, there are stuck-up, puritan parents in the Castro.
This article is snarky, and antagonistic. Still, I agree with its author more than not.
and you certainly don't speak for their kids. Nobody cares what you personally like and don't like, but when even gay men in the Castro want this nonsense to stop, why doesn't that matter to you?
Anyway, you lost this battle. Move on.
disagrees with your kid. So there. She is very uncomfortable with the nudists. Can't really blame her, when walking down Castro street, some freaks penis is right at your eye level.
On the plus sized side, at least the penis is well hidden beneath the folds of fat.
Fuck families. Fuck children. They're not what San Francisco has ever been about.
I should know. I was born and raised there and turned out fine.
Anything else?
Except that when you were born here you were a child. Right? Or did you, like Athena, emerge fully grown from your father's head?
muttering "fuck children".
I loved this piece, humorous and insightful (oops I almost wrote inciteful), and I learned a new word, "gayeoisie."
It's actually Christina Hendricks, not Hendrix.
fixed above!
Thanks for your article.
I've been wondering: So what's next on this conservative supervisor's agenda who came up with this nudity ban nonsense as he runs for another city (mayor) or state office (Ammiano's job?). I would imagine that long ago he dreamed up a whole list of shit that he wants changed (in a backward direction and/or banned) in SF. Wouldn't he be more comfortable in some small, backward, hick town somewhere? I think so. Although unfortunately when that's the case, the person usually doesn't have the intelligence to move there.
Also, I hope this puts an end to the ridiculous assertion that many people have held to for some time that David Chiu (who voted with the conservatives) is a so-called "progressive." HA!
San Francisco IS a small, backward hick town - this thread proves it.
That is reflected in it's petty politics - why isn't it just part of a larger, unitary Bay Area jurisdiction that might actually carry some weight nationally, rather than being a laughing stock.
When I contested the notion that David Chiu was a liberal or a progressive based on his support for this conservative legislation, one enviro advocate asked me if the definition of progressive was agreeing with whatever I had in mind at that moment.
The absence of social liberalism and in the presence of economic conservativism can be described as many things, but liberal and progressive are not amongst them.
futile pursuit. The best Supes, IMO, are those whose votes are NOT predictable, kneejerk, ideological and pre-programmed, but rather are authentic, deliberated votes based on taking each situation on a case-by-case basis and being independent and pragmatic.
On that basis, Chui is a good supervisor, along with Kim, Wiener and (I expect) Breed. The identity-politics Supes on both sides are far less interesting and effective. It's the independent center that gets things done.
that there are only a handful of people who are protesting the new ordinance. 812,000 people live in SF and it appears that 0.003% of the population are upset enough about it to protest in person.
That should be your clue to give it up.
and that makes zero difference to anything.
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