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stop with the talk of nonito donaire being P4P, until he proves he's the best in his division
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i've always thought p4p talk was silly and just an excuse for certain fighters to avoid others, but lately, this shit is getting ridiculous. let me put this in perspective...when a guy like floyd dominates at 130 to 135 then moves up to win straps against quality opposition in the 140, 147 and 154 weight classes...ok, i'll listen to p4p talk. when a guy like pac fights 3 of the best fighters(jmm, em, barrera) in his division a total of ten times and comes out on top...yeah, i'll listen to p4p arguments on that one too! u want to be considered p4p one of the best in boxing...prove you are the best in your division. andre ward just fought in a tournament involving all the best at 168....and when the dust settled...he was the last man standing. he has proven to be the best in his division. i don't see anyone out there that would argue otherwise.
when a guy like donaire, who i think has the potential to be something special, chooses not to acknowledge the best in his division...and hasn't really proven to be the best in his division...that's where the p4p discussion needs to end. stop!!! i think agbeko, mares, moreno and rigondeaux all have something to say on the matter. i'm not saying he has to fight all of these guys....but at least beat 1 or 2. maybe a tournament is in order for 122 as well?
what say u?
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The problem with the boxing world, is that they are too quick to crown fighters or fights. As soon as they see a good fight, they come out of nowhere with the whole, "Oh damn man, uh uh, that was the Fight of the Year"...and the fuckin' fight may have taken place 2-3 months into the new year. Lol
I see it waaay too often on social networks, and I just want to tell them, "Relax man, I know that was probably the first fight that you've ever watched, but chill out". Then they start flying off the handle and throwing names in the hat for the person to fight...KNOWING (or in their case, not knowing) that boxing just doesn't serve up the best fights to fans.
Then they start crying about MMA being better than boxing, and boxing is dying, and so forth. The funny thing is, you ask them to name some fighters, and they can hardly name any. Im just ready for this stupid megafight to either happen, or for somebody to step forward and say that it aint happenin'. Bob did it once, shouldn't be a problem for him to do it again.
In the background of this megafight nonsense, we get shit like Donaire being at the Top of people's P4P list. Now he just wants to skip around divisions, TRY to look invincible against no-hopers, and weasel his way into a megafight...hasn't happened yet. Dude cant even stay in a division more than 9 months nowadays. Lol
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4.16/5 rDev +6.7%
750ml purchased in Rome.
A: Pours a brownish black with a coarse light tan head.
S: Aroma brings plummy sweetness, coffee bean, roasted grain.
T: Taste brings a nice mix of fruity sweetness and roasted malt. Pleasant flavors of dark fruit (grape, fig) along with bitter cocoa and ground coffee.
M: Medium-bodied with light carbonation.
O: A very good strong porter with some nice dark fruit flavors to balance the roastiness.
11-29-2013 02:11:56 | More by Etan
4/5 rDev +2.6%
08-19-2013 16:53:42 | More by pixieskid
3.58/5 rDev -8.2%
Almost black. Half finger of beige foam, quickly falling down.
Malty smell, caramel, and toasted, and cacao.
In the mouth liquorice too, and chicory, longstanding. On a good and present malty base.
Then even some root-like bitterness, and a light fruitiness, white grapes.
In the aftetaste malt, toasted and liquorice, herbaceous end.
Average body, sugary, with berry fruits.
01-31-2013 20:20:27 | More by stcules
4/5 rDev +2.6%
01-11-2013 21:26:19 | More by westcoastbeerlvr
3.65/5 rDev -6.4%
Pour is a dark syrupy brown with very little tan head. Nose is very sweet cherries up front, notes of dry chocolate and rain, more fruit sweetness and notes of boozy rum faintly behind but well put together. Taste is chocolate and dark malt up front, raisins and cherries followed by head and rum, a bit stronger than the nose would lead you to believe and a bit less integrated. Feel is creamy and almost full bodied with a soft carbonation and semi dry finish. A little sweet but not bad.
10-23-2012 16:41:19 | More by cpetrone84
3.25/5 rDev -16.7%
08-23-2012 03:03:15 | More by t0rin0
4.18/5 rDev +7.2%
I got this in a mixed case of Italian Beers for Christmas from my wife. She didn't care for it, but it's not a style she likes.
I find it interesting that people are calling this a Porter, we both like porters, but this (at least this bottle... I have one more) is more of a Belgian Quad in my opinion.
There was not a lot of head when poured, I was able to force a bit, but it quickly settled and had virtually no lacing.
A pronounced smell and taste of raison, which I like.
Some carbonation on the tongue. At 8.5% the alcohol is well balanced, no burn.
I like this beer. Looks like I'll be having her glass too, as she poured herself a Fort Collins Chocolate Stout.... Fine by me ;)
01-15-2012 00:41:13 | More by WreckDiver
New Jersey
4/5 rDev +2.6%
11-18-2011 00:57:18 | More by patm1986
4.5/5 rDev +15.4%
11-14-2011 23:11:58 | More by JAHMUR
Ontario (Canada)
3.65/5 rDev -6.4%
cl 75 consume before 31/12/11
pitch dark color, lots of foamy tan head. leaves behind good lacing.
smells of chocolate, black licorice, coffee/mocha.
taste was malty, slight fruit/sweet taste, and a coffee aftertaste.
well carbonated. overall it was an okay porter.
07-23-2011 01:53:47 | More by fostachild
3.48/5 rDev -10.8%
75cl bottle of brown glass and classic pressure cap served into a trappist westvleteren goblet in Belfort, France. Served pretty cold out of the refrigerator. Bottle acquired in Rome, Italy last week. Reviewed live. Note that my bottle shows 8% ABV, not 8.5%. Best before date is 31/03/13 (March 31st, 2013).
A: One finger head of nice tan colour, great looking cream lacing, and average retention. The retention suffers from the wide goblet mouth and high ABV, but holds up well. Black colour is solid and nontransparent. Very appealing to a stout/porter lover like meself.
Sm: Chocolate, vanilla, cream, and a light roast that also includes a touch of coffee. Marvelous. Caramel creeps in but doesn't seem too significant. Scent is of mild strength all around.
T: Cream and vanilla are dominant, with some lopsided chocolate on the open and climax but not in-between. Very imbalanced but built with attention to flavour. It's a bit simple - especially compared to the expectations garnered by the scent and appearance, but it's pleasant.
Mf: Smooth, wet, and nicely creamy. A bit too wet for the style, but complementary of the flavours.
Dr: She drinks easy and costs a lot. I expected more depth from an English porter, but I suppose the Italian brewers wanted to "table-ize" the style. Beer culture in Italy is very different from other countries; beer is for drinking at the table while enjoying conversation, food, coffee, and cigarettes. Beer consumers (especially Yanks!) enjoying this alone with a notepad at a bar would feel very out of place.
07-22-2011 13:40:32 | More by kojevergas
4/5 rDev +2.6%
Got a bottle of this at the Bethlehem Speakeasy. The beer pours out as a deep brown color. Almost black but has a reddish color to it. The head was decent, but didn't have too much lacing. The smell of the beer is roasted and has a good amount of malt on the nose. The taste of the beer was roasted and malty. Not too much other flavors that I picked up. Perhaps a little fruit but is so, it was very light. The mouthfeel of this beer was smooth and semi-thick. Overall I enjoyed the beer, very glad I tried it. I would drink again if I found it cheaper somewhere.
07-03-2011 23:12:12 | More by Knapp85
New York
3.98/5 rDev +2.1%
Pours chestnut with a tawny film. Nose is red berry, bark, chocolate, port - each sniff is different. Stout-like cocoa, smoke and licorice malts with sarsaparilla hops. Cherry finish, tingly vermouth bitter leave. Medium to full, big and chewy, with some burn.
Porter, old ale... I might say BSDA, but definitely lots of stout-like characteristics. But really behaves like a port: one before bedtime.
10-17-2010 20:57:19 | More by StJamesGate
3.45/5 rDev -11.5%
Robust and full of character, this dark ale fuses many of the elements found in Porters, Browns Ales, and Belgian Dark Ales.
The beer pours an black onyx color and completely opaque but without being hazy. A thin and short lived cream colored head forms on the beer in a relatively dull fashion. Light legging is evident.
Fruity with plumbs, blackberries, red grapes, and black cherries- the nose is balanced toward the esters with mild coffee notes in the background. A light vinous tartness/tanic quality lingers behind the fruit.
Bold flavors of burnt fruits- those mentioned in the nose along with charred currants, toast, embers, and bitter coffee. The fruity tartness gives the impression of dark Belgian ales. Sweetness is also reminescent of residual sugars left behind in Belgian ales.
Medium-full textures lean heavily on the tongue because of the low carbonation: never creamy or froathy. A grainy astringency grows going into the finish, leaving a cola-like sugary coat on the mouth. Alcoholic warmth increases as the beer warms.
A quite unusual beer that has some formitable qualities in the ester and toast profiles. But the lack of carbonation and odd sweet-fruity balance leaves the beer seeming incomplete.
09-28-2010 02:05:56 | More by BEERchitect
New York
4.55/5 rDev +16.7%
I went to a distributer in Connecticut and asked for an Italian Micro Brew. He actually had this in the back. It can wrapped in a fancy paper with a picture of a Raven on the front. He said it was different from the Reserva, which he said was only distributed in about six cases in the States...but I don't know if that is true or not. Anyway...
This had a dark black color (i.e. traditional porter) and a great, brown head. The smell was a nutty hazelnut with a kind of licorice to it.
It had a smoky, rusty aftertaste, again, why I think it is more of a porter than anything, though I am not 100 percent sure. It was smooth as hell yet did not have the kick that some other similar tasting beers that I've had.
Very good, though expensive, over $10 for 25 oz.
01-03-2009 02:09:30 | More by Amalak
4.13/5 rDev +5.9%
Thanks to ibrew2or3 for this treat.
A: Pours a nice dark flat blackish brown hue with a 1/4 finger brown head. The retention was so so with the head quickly dying to a ring. The carbonation was working in this one as it creeped up the bottle prior to being poured.
S: Nice dash of smoke up front. Tones of dark fruit with bold roasted caramel malt.
T: Bold roasted malt up front with lots of dark fruit and light bitter chocolate. Hints of coffee, and earth meld into a bit of booze and nuts.
M: Medium in body, smooth with very good carbonation.
D: This beer is very stouty for an old ale. Wonderful flavors that really meld well together.
12-29-2008 21:55:41 | More by tpd975
Rhode Island
3.73/5 rDev -4.4%
Courtesy of RomanW70. B. United distributes this beer in the US and describes it as Strong Brown ale; however, it's listed as an Old Ale on the Birrificio Montegioco website. Paper-wrapped 25.4 oz. bottle with an illustration of a raven's head on the wrapper. Poured a deep brown with ruby highlights. Head dissipated almost immediately. Clarity was somewhat murky. Nose was light, revealing dark fruit and a vinous quality. Taste was wine-like - dark fruit and malt. Mouthfeel was medium-bodied with a light effervescence and a mild burn towards the back. Interesting beer - enjoyable, but a little too close to wine for my liking.
12-28-2008 17:19:33 | More by Jwale73
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Thinking big
Seattle safety Earl Thomas might be the preeminent player at his position. But to emulate a Troy Polamalu or an Ed Reed, he said he must win the Super Bowl.
"You always look at guys who have had success in this league, and those guys were definitely the best at their position, and they have championships under their belt. So, definitely when my legacy is done, I want some championships. This is a great opportunity I want to cash in and take advantage of," Thomas said.
Big apple memories
Pete Carroll is returning to the scene of his first firing as an NFL coach, by the Jets 20 years ago. He later was fired by the Patriots — he coached them just before Bill Belichick — but he has since won a national title with Southern Cal. And now he can win the Super Bowl with the Seahawks.
"I have thought about it quite a bit. It has come up in the week's preparation already. I've always loved playing in New York," Carroll said. "I loved the fact that I had a chance to be here for five years. To have a chance to be a head coach in New York is an extraordinary honor because of the history and the following and all that goes along with that. Unfortunately, it didn't last very long."
Weather watch
Six days out, the Accuweather forecast is a daytime high of 36, a nighttime low of 28 and a chance of snow showers for the first NFL championship game in New York in 52 years. The temperature isn't expected to get out of the 20s until Friday, so both teams are expected to practice indoors — the Seahawks at the Giants' facility, the Broncos at the Jets' complex.
Happy to be here
All coaches are thankful of getting to the Super Bowl. Broncos coach John Fox is thankful for more than that — he's simply glad he made it to Super Bowl week. He missed more than a month of the serious with a serious heart condition that put him in the hospital at midseason. He said he easily could have died.
"Just standing here feels pretty good because I almost wasn't," said Fox, a former Steelers and Pitt assistant coach.
No comparison
Broncos safety David Bruton said trying to confuse the Seattle offense won't be any more difficult than dealing with a bunch of 7-year-olds. During the NFL labor negotiations in 2011, he took a friend's advice and worked as a grade-school teacher.
"(He) said, 'We know you love kids, why don't you pursue this?' I fell in love with it. Having the chance to be around the youth and help them grow and see the impact that I made in some way shape or form, it's cool," Bruton said. "Second graders are definitely trying to be slick, they try to pull one over on you. I think that's the age where they develop the sense that, 'Oh, it's a substitute teacher, I can pull one over on him."
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Addictions and the Like Precious Faith
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Addictions are a good place to study the application of the "like precious faith" we are exploring in our FoundationsOfTheLikePreciousFaith series. These physical addictions present some of the same spiritual factors that we see in other more emotional or intellectual or visual addictions that we face in the field as well. The resources and applications are just the same as with any destructive trait.
Even those not battling these types of addictions should be able to see beneficial applications herein that could help them in whatever they are struggling against. We encourage everyone to read along!
Application 1
We always start at the baseline treatment the addicts' perception of God's righteousness.
The addict (even Christian addicts) tend to have a very crippled perception of God's righteousness. Many early on have suffered spiritually debilitating events in their past that have made it much easier/likely for them to follow this course of addiction than to proceed as healthier more rational people would. A sizable portion of that injury has to do with what they continue to perceive as what God's role in that event(s) is.
For many these events have seemingly continued/replicated in other or similar forms and piled up for several years.
First and foremost the addict must allow a presumption of God's righteousness even if not clear initially what that righteousness might be. Further the addict must pursue the opening made by that presumption toward searching out the evidences of that righteousness to the point of coming to a broader grace and peace between he/she and God, he/she and the event and the faces and occurrences within it.
This is of primary importance because it is this knowledge/grace/peace that will open up the spiritual life line to God's power and promise and providence into their daily lives.
So we are looking for a strong diet of God righteousness verses, reading with an emphasis on open minded exploration, prayerful mediation and free form discussion.
Resources: TorreyRighteousnessOfGod slidy:TorreyRighteousnessOfGod
Application 2
If the addict wasn't obsessive compulsive going in they are more than likely to be coming out. This presents a difficulty when applying the prescribed diligence's bridging faith into action. They will nearly always be compulsively diligent about applying their own knowledge and resources at the problem rather than God's and obsessive about the problems that they may or may not face and all possible outcomes.
The grace and peace about recovery in general is also difficult for the obsessive to maintain as well.
Therefore, before any diligence is performed, focus must be given on the spiritual elements of God's Arm highlighted by Peter in verses 2-4. So we are still looking at a strong diet of God's righteousness, but now bringing into the study/meditation/discussion/preparations the numerous scriptural examples of God issuing these elements and examples of man's successes and failures with that.
The focus of understanding must be that all these elements work toward bringing us to a place of partaking of His divine nature and that it is His divine nature that is above the corruptions and dictates of our flesh.
Resources: TODO
Application 3
Again before any diligence is performed the diligence must be understood from a spiritual perspective.
The virtue added for instance is not a courage or valor against addiction, it is a courage/valor for riding the strength of Lord's arm as He has revealed it out of addiction. Addiction doesn't stand a chance against the arm of the Lord, but riding that arm at first is a unfamiliar thing.
The knowledge added is not a knowledge of addiction recovery, it is a knowledge of Christ Jesus Himself, where the strength of His arm is in a particular situation and how it operates.
The temperance added likewise is a temperance for allowing in the power and promises and provisions supplied by God in and through the problem, not the problem influencing what you will think and do by your own resource.
Further down the diligences, the patience added is not a patience for the chemical withdrawals to subside, it is a patience with one's self in putting the faith forward correctly. There will be corrections to be made, but in a direction the Spirit is leading not the flesh.
One keeps adding and adding diligence's one upon another until there is built a flowing conduit of God's agape love. When corrections are to be made (and they will be frequent at first) they are made toward correcting/strengthening the weaker links of this structure. The valor for instance may need to be better placed in His strength. The temperance may need to adjusted towards His influence.
You see, these diligences are not only the focuses one places in front of their daily actions, they are the feedback looking back and areas of correction and building up moving forward. They become the standing platform surrounding the addict/the vessel used by the Lord that He navigates out of the addiction. It is no different than the vehicle He used to pull a man and his wife out of a rocky and corrupted marriage or a parent out of their abusiveness.
One's like precious faith however must keep the focus on applying this God's and Son's righteousness forward into their daily lives.
Resources: TODO
Application 4
Notice Peter's seeming prediction of lack of fruit verses 8-9. You will see why we've put so much emphasis already on starting this off right. Our field of vision spiritually is already narrow that we will want to resort back to our former carnal field of vision, even though most of that is vain imaginary fluff and all of it corrupted.
The focus here must be expanding the spiritual field of vision which means continually going back through the loop of applications starting at the perception of His righteousness Father and Son, multiplying both grace and peace, searching out the movement of His arm.
Let us change for a moment the phrase "in the knowledge of Christ" which Peter so often repeated to "in the familiarity with His person". This is not a religious endeavor we are committing ourselves to here to become un-addicted, it is a one on one relationship Christ wants us invested in with Him. As much as He gives Himself to us, we give ourselves to Him.
Addiction has brought you to a point where now you are willing to see the possibility of such a relationship. Assurance of one's salvation, abundant entrance leading up to His eternal kingdom, remembrance of these things known, each important things no doubt, these are all things better served (come more naturally) by a sincere and engaged relationship to Him. It is this growing and active familiarity that we become fruitful with and in. This is what transforms and sanctifies our lives so.
So our application becomes more and more an outreach to others in helping them to see the fruitful affects of this relationship and the sharing of the steps of the like precious faith. It begins day two after we have begun this walk ourselves. It builds and continues repeatedly as we daily apply the diligences of brotherly kindness and agape love. Essentially that is all outreach is.
Outreach at some point always has to reach back to those that who have suffered by your addiction, even to those that may have started you down the road to it. The fullest grace and peace is never found as long as those memories remain haunting. Don't expect other's forgiveness, be sure to ask for it though, then simply accept God's.
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Application 5
Though it is not mentioned directly by Peter in this passage it is implied by the phrase "like precious faith" and further in scriptural context that there are others in the process of being delivered by the the strength of the arm of the Lord. Others that we need to be connected too.
The tendency by most Christian fellowships unfortunately is to separate the addicts into their corner and the abusive into theirs and the married couples into theirs; have their individual groups work out their particular problems. It gives the congregation the appearance of providing targeted "products" to meet the individual's needs, but also separates a more sweeping power of Christ into smaller channels. Even the methods developed for treatment become separate and distinct.
There is so much that the addict can add to the overall experience of like precious faith of the grieving widow, just as there is that the widow can add to the experience of healing to the troubled couple, just as their is from the wounded soldier to the convict and to the troubled teen etc.. circling round in reverse.
The beauty of Peter's like precious faith is that we are all much alike and the Lord's stated approach to us is is much the same. Sure our Lord seeks individual relationships with each of us, but He also seeks us having fruitful relations with one another. When you get further into the writings of other Apostles like Paul's tremendous kjv@Romans:12 discourse you see the importance of the togetherness of a entire body of believers and how they also become as a body fruitful in the knowledge of Christ.
Do not ignore this step. Though this additional step is challenging because our baser natures, it is as much of our process of growth in the end as anything else. Some would even say that individual growth is most limited by not being connected to the growth of the larger universal body.
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