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(RNN) – In the Arkansas Razorbacks' darkest hour, a singing superfan has taken to You Tube to offer her favorite college football team a musical message of inspiration and hope.
Last Saturday, the No. 8 Razorbacks blew a 21-point lead, got a bunch of key players hurt and lost in overtime to 30-point underdog Louisiana Monroe. Next on the schedule, the relentless Alabama Crimson Tide, ranked No. 1 in the nation.
All seemed hopeless. Then lizhoney sprang into action.
Wearing a plastic pig hat, with her nose taped up to resemble a pig's snout, sporting a rosy-red Arkansas sweatshirt and wearing caked-on, matching lipstick, lizhoney belts out a karaoke-style rendition of the classic, folky ballad United We Stand, Divided We Fall.
The video went viral.
Her version of the song originally performed by Brotherhood of Man and covered by Cher and Elton John is surprisingly … not too terrible. Her retooled lyrics exhort her team to glories that include beating Alabama by a score of 100-3, and between verses she whispers breathy get-well wishes to the fallen players.
Time will tell if the Hogs come off the canvas, regroup and smite the invaders.
Arkansas plays host to No. 1 ranked Alabama at 3:30 p.m. EST on Sept. 15 in a nationally televised game.
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The San Francisco Bay Conservation and Development Commission (BCDC) predicts a 16-inch mid-century sea level rise, covering Bay Area coastal lands and eventually swamping downtown San Francisco up to Market Street. The primary global warming gas is carbon dioxide. Methane gas, heavily implicated in global warming, has been emitted for years from the Bayview Hunters Point Naval Shipyard. Sea level rise will release methane gas from wetlands and landfill, of which much of Hunters Point is composed.


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BOSTON -- The pouring rain and gloomy conditions at Fenway Park on Sunday night hid what was quite possibly a very positive development for the Red Sox.
The postponement means that Sox right-hander Derek Lowe will likely be able to pitch a game at Fenway Park after all, as he could go in Game 5, now scheduled to be played Tuesday.
In addition, veteran knuckleballer Tim Wakefield -- who mastered the Yankees in a Game 1 victory -- will start Game 4 in place of John Burkett.
As for Lowe, he is likely to get the nod in Game 5, which would push Burkett back to Game 6 (if necessary).
If the series goes to Game 7, it would still be Pedro Martinez against Roger Clemens in a rematch of their memorable Game 3 duel.
Lowe, who took the loss in Game 2 at Yankee Stadium, has been a far superior pitcher at Fenway Park this season than on the road. During the regular season, Lowe was 11-2 at home with a 3.21 ERA. On the road, he was 6-5 with a 6.11 ERA.
Red Sox manager Grady Little is currently listing Game 5 and 6 starters as "TBA," but Burkett may have accidentally let the cat out of the bag.
"He told me (that) Wake, then Derek Lowe and then myself in Game 6," said Burkett. "At least I'll get an opportunity again if we can get to Game 6. I was definitely looking forward to (Sunday night). I was getting fired up, ready to go."
Little said that the outcome of Game 4 won't have a bearing on his Game 5 starter. Instead, it will simply be a matter of how Lowe feels Monday.
Lowe has had a heavy workload in the postseason, pitching twice in relief during the five-game Division Series against Oakland in addition to a start. Then, just three days after saving Game 5 of the ALDS, he took the ball against the Yankees in Game 2 of the ALCS.
But Little sensed that Lowe would be ready whenever duty calls.
"I think he'll be fine," Little said.
The way momentum switched back to the Yankees with their victories in Games 2 and 3, the rainout might have been just what the doctor ordered for the Red Sox.
"I'm real happy about this day off," said center fielder Johnny Damon, who has played just one game since suffering a concussion last Monday in Oakland. "It gives me another day off to rest (and) it gives us some options with our rotation."
Burkett took the news in stride.
"It's over. You go home, have dinner and watch a football game, I guess," the 38-year-old righty said. "It won't affect me later on, but I definitely wanted to pitch tonight. That's what I'm here for."
Now Wakefield gets to step up a game ahead of schedule, albeit on his regular day.
"Tim is coming off that good game in Game 1 (and) he's on his normal rest, so we're going to send him out there again," Little said.
The Yankees changed their plans as well.
Mike Mussina, originally slated for Game 5, will move up a day and pitch against Wakefield for the second time in the series.
David Wells, who was going to face Burkett in Game 4, will be bumped to Tuesday afternoon's Game 5.
Andy Pettitte, as was already scheduled, will go in a potential Game 6 at Yankee Stadium on Wednesday.
Though the rain tapered off within an hour of when Sunday's game was scheduled to start, the field was in rough shape after the wet weather all day long.
"The only way that this has any affect at all is that (Monday's) conditions will be much better," Little said. "It will be sunny outside, and it will be less likely for any field conditions to determine the outcome of any game. It was as bad as I've seen it, and we all know how slowly the (Fenway) field drains. Tomorrow, it will just be better to play a baseball game. The forecast is much better (and) the field won't be in the shape it's in now."
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Indians activate OF Michael Bourn from 15-day DL
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CLEVELAND, OH - The Cleveland Indians today announced the following roster moves relative to the Major League roster:
Activated OF MICHAEL BOURN from the 15-day DL
Optioned LHP SCOTT BARNES to AAA Columbus.
Bourn has been on the disabled list since April 15 after suffering a lacerated right index finger against the Chicago White Sox the day before. Bourn spent two days (May 7-8) rehabbing with AAA Columbus and so far this season he is hitting .333 (14-45) with 7 runs scored, 4 2B, 1 3B, 2HR & 2RBI in 10 games (.975OPS).


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"If I coveted nowe to avenge the injuries that you have done me, I myght laughe in my slyve." [John Daus, "Sleidanes Commentaries," 1560]The noun is first attested 1680s, from the verb. Meaning "a cause of laughter" is from 1895; ironic use (e.g. that's a laugh) attested from 1930. Nitrous oxide has been called laughing gas since 1842 (for its exhilarating effects). Laugh track "canned laughter on a TV program" is from 1966.


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The seven species of skate – Winter, Barndoor, Thorny, Little, Rosette, Clearnose, and Smooth Skate – are managed both individually and collectively in the northwestern Atlantic Ocean. Skates are typically long-lived, mature slowly, and have low fecundity (fertility), making them vulnerable to fishing pressure.
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Summer 1970 and a great band that drew in Lol Coxhill (national treasure), David Bedford (enfant terrible), Mike Oldfield (wildly over-qualified bass-player) and both Robert Wyatt and bandleader Kevin Ayers (respectively current and ex Soft Machiners). Someone recorded it all, and here, cleaned up as much as possible, are the traces. '70s PA system, big noisy space, wind blowing the sound about; it's all engraved into this CD. And through the lo-fi you can hear what made this period so interesting; bands didn't try to sound alike, they took risks, they shuffled up the genres and they found their own way to a musical language that was full of ideas, details and imagination. The Whole World was exemplary, and you can just about hear what it was all about here. Fans will like it, researchers will be informed and it's nice to hear Robert in this fluid, melodic context; if you were there, this will bring it all back; but doubters should go first to the studio CDs. These are precious documents, however.
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Rebooting a BlackBerry - something we hate doing yet something we (unfortunately) need to do. Battery pulls, "soft reset" or whatever you want to call it, it has to be done. Historically our devices have taken nothing short of an eternity to reboot, pushing toward 10 minutes in some instances just to get up and running. Well with the new BlackBerry Torch 9800 a welcome relief comes as the improved boot time which is roughly 2 minutes. Finally we don't have to fret pulling the battery - which is few and far between on this device as it is.
Check out the video above (I didn't edit it down at all so we get the full effect of how painful a reboot is - it's kind of long and boring in the middle so feel free to skip ahead) for a head to head comparision of the Bold 9700 (OS 22.214.171.1246), Bold 9650 (OS 220.127.116.112) and Torch 9800 (OS 220.127.116.11). Each of them is loaded up with nearly the same apps and data (messages, contacts, calendar etc) to make things as close as possible. The video is kind of long as I left it run through the whole boot process, so you can skip ahead if you want to just see the meat of it. The Torch boots up in around 2m 20s (at 3:17 in the video), the Bold 9650 takes a not-so-close second at 6m 40s (at 7:40 in the video) with the Bold 9700 bringing up the rear with a boot time of 9m 15s (at 10:33 in the video). Now keep in mind this isn't exact, but its a pretty good show of how long each device takes to boot up. This will totally vary depending on your data, apps etc as each device is specific to its owner, but we tried our best to do a decent comparison. Regardless it is totally obvious here that the Torch with BB6 is way faster (RIM did tell Kevin they improved the boot time considerably) than older devices. Your mission for today is to do your own boot test and drop a comment with your device/OS/boot time. Lets see who has the best and who has the worst!
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FeNoM Aug 10, 2010 at 12:45 pm
I don't know about that. My 9700 doesn't take 9 minutes, more like 5.
MattDub22 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:53 pm
what OS????
diegonei Aug 10, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Right after a OS update it may take anything from 90 seconds to 3 minutes for my 8520 to boot.
After I have all my apps and data back on the phone, it takes from 3-6 minutes.
How's that on the Torch? stable boot times no matter that you load into it?
Jaiden Aug 10, 2010 at 4:10 pm
9530 - 220.127.116.117 - 2min, 52 sec
9700 - 22.214.171.1242 - 4min, 48 sec
Both on Telus network. Funny thing is, the 9530 is loaded with 3rd party apps (only 13mb available after battery pull)and the 9700 has no 3rd party apps installed O_o
Mine doesn't EVEN take 5 minutes, and I have 11 emails on my BIS account.
PS- That stupid "CRACKBERRY...dot com" drop has got to go. It's seriously ANNOYING!
devGOD Aug 10, 2010 at 7:27 pm
I'm am willing to be that the 9800 does not have encryption & security turned on. That adds an extra 3mins to the boot time. For that test to work all devices have to have the same configure with security. redo the test with security & encryption turned on for all 3 devices. Then do it again with all the security off. my 9700 boot in 2min 50sec with the security and encryption turned off.
con4n007 Aug 10, 2010 at 12:46 pm
my 9700 about 3-4 mins
MattDub22 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:54 pm
What OS???
bigjimsax Aug 10, 2010 at 2:35 pm
I am running 220.127.116.112 on ATT (sadly) and mine takes 2 to 3 min tops. Certainly not 10 minutes.
henningotto Aug 10, 2010 at 12:47 pm
my 9700 doesn't need such a lot time for booting...
MattDub22 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:55 pm
What OS???
kjjb0204 Aug 10, 2010 at 12:47 pm
9650 on vzw - between 5 minutes flat and sometimes upwards of 9 minutes.
My 9700 boots uo about as fast as the Torch. Is encryption or memory cleaning switched on on the other 2?
rdy78 Aug 10, 2010 at 12:53 pm
my 9650 doesn't take that long haha maybe 4m but yes that was a quick boot you shoulda gave us some more preview of the 0s6 hehe nice vid...
Kache Aug 10, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Takes about 8 minutes
devGOD Aug 10, 2010 at 7:28 pm
turn off encryption and watch your BB 9700 boot in less than 3mins
Spiral_ouT Aug 10, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Once I saw what was going on, I backed my video up to where Adam pushed the batteries in. I put my battery in my 9700 at the same time as he puts his in. Mine finished only 10 seconds after the Torch. I have 21 3rd party apps.
Irving94 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:43 pm
So what? Who knows what kind of info is on these phones. There's probably ALOT of data. It can't be inaccurate because he just did it right in front of your eyes.
Spiral_ouT Aug 10, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Was stating that the test results are inaccurate to the general 9700 owner's reboot time. Of course Adam's old phone filled with texts, emails, apps, and other data is going to be slower than a new one.
shlee Aug 10, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Something doesnt seem right. My Bold 9700 Is way faster than that. almost 5 mins and it kills my girls 9650
MOTH477 Aug 10, 2010 at 12:58 pm
I like my 9700. I wish boot times were better. Anyway I can't stop wondering if android winmo and Iphone test their devices to see which one boots fastest. Does this issue ever come up?
MattDub22 Aug 10, 2010 at 4:44 pm
No, it doesn't. Those OS's may do less battery pulls, or none at all, but i tell you what, they have a boot time. I had the chance to work with a Galaxy S over the weekend and although the screen may come on fast it took about 3m 30s for the device to be usable, and another 1m for the network to come, and another 1m30s for the wi-fi to register. They don't talk about it because heaven forbid they have the same issues as a 'Blackberry'.... At least we're honest with our devices and discuss these issues.
bosco388 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:00 pm
My 9700 boots in less than 4 minutes.
lilituc Aug 10, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Tour 9630, 10 minutes almost exactly.
wojtas25 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:01 pm
My 9700 starts in ~2 or 2:30 mins with installed 24 3rd party apps.
bluegoose Aug 10, 2010 at 1:01 pm
T-Mobile 9700 running 18.104.22.1683 boots from a battery pull to the today screen after the security verification in 2:45 and Berry Weather even refreshes by 3:45.
ice1124 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:01 pm
iPhone boots up much faster than any of the BBs I've seen and used. My storm used to take more than five minutes to boot up, but my iPhone 4 takes a minute or two at most. I'm still a blackberry guy at heart, I'm just playing with the iPhone 4 until the 9800 comes out :)
Griffspen Aug 10, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Is that after a battery pull on the iPhone?
Spiral_ouT Aug 10, 2010 at 1:26 pm
A battery pull on any iPhone voids the warranty. You have to remove screws and basically take it apart to get the battery out.
qrescue Aug 10, 2010 at 1:46 pm
I spit my water out on that one. Lol.
mmcerlaine Aug 10, 2010 at 1:53 pm
that couldnt have been a serious question lol
ronjon12 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:04 pm
My 9700 boots up in around 2 mins.. about 10 3rd party apps, 3 emails accounts.
MILLYBLICK Aug 10, 2010 at 1:05 pm
booting time for me 4-5 mins
TheUnforgiven Aug 10, 2010 at 1:05 pm
7 Minutes and 48 seconds, with all 3 radios(CDMA, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth) on, running a custom theme, with 292.545MB of 404.375MB free on boot.
ahodgdon Aug 10, 2010 at 1:06 pm
I just pulled my battery on my Storm 2 and rebooted. 3 minutes and 30 seconds to reboot. Not to painful.
SeanBest Aug 10, 2010 at 1:06 pm
My 9700 starts up in just under 2 minutes. This is a fail imo.
Scooter625 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:06 pm
My 9000 boots up in 1:58 on a BES with about 25 apps on it. OS 18.104.22.1681
Rounin Aug 10, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Just rebooted my Bold 9000 in 1:45.
lerxster Aug 10, 2010 at 5:52 pm
2:05 on OS 18.104.22.1681 with my 9000... much improved since OS5 :)
gerard187 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Mind 9700 is under 3 minutes.
cestlavie77 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:08 pm
My good ol' 9000 boots up in 3 mins 40 seconds... running 22.214.171.1249. Love this device. The _only_ BlackBerry to tempt me since getting it is the Torch.
3 1/2 --long, agonizing minutes.................
brandon_blackberry333 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:09 pm
my 9700 finished 22 seconds after the 9800?
Rikter Aug 10, 2010 at 1:12 pm
For everyone that is saying " Oh my device loads so much faster ".... what you're failing to realize is that there are multiple 3rd party apps on each phone. The maker of the video doesn't say which or how many so you cannot compare your device boot time vs his as it will be different due to the apps and such.
Buy a torch, load it up with what you have on your current BB and then boot them up at the same time and the torch will probably kick your old bbs' ass.
siopow Aug 10, 2010 at 1:23 pm
agreed. i dont think this test is very accurate.
the test should be done with brand new phones fresh out of the box.
Irving94 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Lol How do you agree? He said the exact opposite of what your'e saying. But I agree with him, this is definite proof that the boot-up time is DRASTICALLY improved.
Spiral_ouT Aug 10, 2010 at 2:36 pm
You obviously didn't understand what he was saying then... He was saying the test wasn't accurate because the 9700 and 9650 had been heavily used. The only way to accurately get test results for this would be to have 3 Brand new, never used, phones
Barry178 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Those numbers are ridiculous. I can reboot form a battery pull in 2½ minutes.
Raekwon_ Aug 10, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Just did the test on my Curve 8520 with OS 5.0 -> 2 minutes and 10 seconds
Zipper Aug 10, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Well I just did the same as another person here on my 9700, I reset the video and did a battery pull at the same time, my OS is .862 running 8 heavy apps, a ton of email, calendar entries, a bunch of non ended BBM convos going and my time was just under 4min. And my BELL splash screen doesn't stay on near as long as the T-Mobile one here. My BELL one pops on for 3sec. So I've always been pretty happy with my 9700 boot time. Would have been more informative what OS's Adam had going there. All in all something is off there.
flyingspatula Aug 10, 2010 at 1:26 pm
3 mins 15 seconds for my 9700 with OS 18.104.22.1682
scook94 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:27 pm
My Bold has a reboot time from battery pull of 110 seconds, running a .822 based hybrid.
Average Joe Aug 10, 2010 at 1:28 pm
My 9700 used to take about 6-7 minutes...since I upgraded to OS5 build .602, it takes about 2.5 minutes.
ckeins Aug 10, 2010 at 1:28 pm
exactly 3 minutes between battery pull and security check. my 9700 is running OS 22.214.171.1242, which is the fastest OS until now on my 9700.
Only 90 seconds on the 9000 running 184.108.40.2062. Don't tell me the Torch will be a downgrade in terms of restart time! Then again, I generally only reboot the 9000 because its skimpy app memory has dwindled down too far.
squane123#CB Aug 10, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Guys Why does my storm appear to be better then everyones. Does a simulated bat pull go faster... Mine 127 seconds. Do the math. LOL... That's with all things done and no lag when clicking any icon.
mildj84ns Aug 10, 2010 at 1:33 pm
My 9000 on 220.127.116.112 gets to the security verification screen in 1:49 minutes
Jake Storm Aug 10, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Obviously the 9700 and 9650 will be as fast, once they get OS6.
lcoulombe Aug 10, 2010 at 1:33 pm
My 9700 is running .743 and it took 2:20 from the time I put the battery back in to the time the desktop appeared. So Adam, what the heck are you running on that thing huh? ;)
LOGITEC Aug 10, 2010 at 1:34 pm
I am running a hybrid and i have a lot of contacts, messages, and apps, free memory is at 44%.
vgs487 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Takes around 4to5 minutes. 9minutes up is ridiculous, that never happened to me or most 9700 users commenting here
cloudberry Aug 10, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Blackberry 9700 / OS 22.214.171.1243 / 6 minutes 35 secs.
i still have 87 MB free memory on my BB.
only have 4 3rd party application
maybe it take long because of the old OS?
longhornkat Aug 10, 2010 at 1:35 pm
My bold 9700 only takes at most 4 minutes to reboot and I've got quite a bit on it. And I agree with a few above, it will reboot faster with os6 :)
cybercs Aug 10, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Just for the sake of timing it (I've never thought of doing this before) I did a battery pull on my 8900 and it took 7 min and 42 secs to the point where it does a security check.
Running OS 184.108.40.2062
I love my 8900 (only wished it was 3G) but I will definitely be moving to the 9800 once it's available on Rogers.
zaersx Aug 10, 2010 at 1:37 pm
I've a storm 1 9500 ran I nice toasty hotfast reboot of 2:29:33 with 19 apps installed, counting time from the beginning of the red led all the way through to the 100% on checking security software
The Consigliere Aug 10, 2010 at 1:37 pm
there's no way it takes 9 minutes for mine to reboot. Now I'm not saying that I have a ton of third party apps but I'd say mine is more in the 2 minute range.
oldrich.mladek Aug 10, 2010 at 1:39 pm
BlackBerry Bold 9700
2 minutes 20 secs.
app: gtalk, twitter, wordpress, gowalla, shazam, berryweather, superstore and app world 2.0
Maverick750 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:40 pm
8330 running Nathanix OS5v6 hybrid - 3:33 total boot time. Relative but impressive (that this old mule even boots at all is impressive in itself).
robertdusa Aug 10, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Yeah, something must be afoot here Adam. My 9700 was about 30 seconds slower than the 9800. And that's with quite a few 3rd party apps, and four email accounts.
I'm thinking for a proper test, you need to install the latest OS available for each platform platform, and only have the default apps, no 3rd party. Might also be a good test if all the SIMs were for the same carrier too. Only mention that because Kevin mentioned in a tweet that his 9800 didn't seem to last as long on Rogers.
My two cents.
tigo30 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:43 pm
i dont know why it took so long, my 9700 (hybrid OS) boots up in 2:55 secs
MayorHaji Aug 10, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Bold 9650 (VZW) 22.214.171.1242 on BES: 6:16 including security tests.
Bold 9700 (AT&T) 220.127.116.112 on BIS: 10:24 including security tests.
HipPo13 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:49 pm
around 13 3rd party apps
alderon_90 Aug 10, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I have a BB Bold 9700, and it takes about 2 minutes to reboot.Yet, I definetely hate it! That's why I sometimes decide not to get the app.
Guatiao Aug 10, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Mine takes some 3 minutes tops!!! We need a poll for 9700 users on this!!!!
FalkensMaze Aug 10, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Perhaps all the haters of the world should note that Adam noted that the 9700 was running 586 - let's move beyond why he's using an OS version pre-historic man used and keep in mind 586 was a CRAP build.
I can remember wanting to take my 9700 back to the store for a refund when I had some of those 5xx builds. One time I drove from my house to Burger King drive thru and back before that crap 9700 finished rebooting.
For people to bitch and complain "I'm running 862 with this and that and these many emails and yada yada yada" perhaps need to get a life.
PS since I have no life, I'm running 862 with:
-BES with 2 BIS accounts
-545 contacts
-239 emails
-360 calendar items
-26 3rd Party Apps
-6 Add-ons
-89MB Free
Reboot time, 11 min & 14 sec.
Suck on that.
-->Shall we play a game?
mmcerlaine Aug 10, 2010 at 1:52 pm
i got about 3:50, with hyrbid os6 software but 38 3rd party apps, not too shabby for most of my memory being used up
qrescue Aug 10, 2010 at 1:52 pm
I was told that boot up time depends on the data on your phone. The bigger your contacts list is and how many emails you have. On a re boot the phone recompiles all the data
gregorylkelly Aug 10, 2010 at 1:54 pm
My 9650 with .810 took 8:10 to boot. I have a lot of messages and apps on mine. I can't imagine it taking more than that ever. It used to boot in about 4-5 minutes (when I first got it) but is bogged down big time now.
Synbios Aug 10, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Most high end Android devices reboot in less than a minute after a battery pull. More like 20 seconds?
Synbios Aug 10, 2010 at 1:58 pm
i'm not sure why this posted twice i only hit the button once.
g.grimes Aug 10, 2010 at 1:57 pm
9 minutes for a 9700? Mine routinely takes 3 minutes on the spot.
I see the need for an investigation into the why and why not's of boot times.
rijaxo Aug 10, 2010 at 1:58 pm
storm 9530 on at&t 2:55
SDBB_kick Aug 10, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Took 6:37 to boot.
32 - 3rd party apps
Better than my old 8330, but I assume slower than the Torch with same apps and OS6.
kiddough Aug 10, 2010 at 1:59 pm
my 9700's time is closer to the Torch. I'm running .714
MattDub22 Aug 10, 2010 at 2:01 pm
14 third party apps.
4 Beta Zone apps from RIM
3 email accounts
using a third party theme as well.
and further more, I've shrunk my OS to about half (53.84MB) using 'Shrink-A-OS' before that it SEEMED to take longer, but i have no data to back that up. 5 minutes doesn't seem so bad considering my older BB's... 7105t would take like 20+ mins!!! LOL!
MissJennell#IM Aug 10, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Man I wish my 9650 would boot up as fast as the one on here. Mine takes over 10 minutes to boot up and be functional again.
jkpitcher Aug 10, 2010 at 2:03 pm
When I first got the tour it only took about 3-4 minutes. The more apps I put on the longer it takes. Have about 14 apps now with about 80 meg of free space after a battery pull. Now it takes about 10 to 12 mintues now. Never timed it to know exactly.
vod332 Aug 10, 2010 at 2:04 pm
it boots pretty fast too! I will time it this afternoon and get back to you.
silverfang77 Aug 10, 2010 at 2:04 pm
My little Curve 8330 with OS 5 boots up way faster than the Bold 9700! Pathetic!
alderon_90 Aug 10, 2010 at 2:05 pm
My 9700 takes 2 minutes aprox. to boot. I still hate rebooting. That's why sometimes I prefer not to download an app.
MILLYBLICK Aug 10, 2010 at 2:20 pm
lol @ all comments. I knew this would happen because the test is not accurate. They all need to be fresh out the box so that the others isn't used already and filled with apps.
Just my point and some already said it for me.
flipAO Aug 10, 2010 at 2:24 pm
I TRIED to watch the whole video...MY BlackBerry (8230) froze half way through LOL. Shows ya who got Berry goodness and who got sour grapes. Hahaha
lushpupp Aug 10, 2010 at 2:24 pm
from battery pull to main menu, my bold 9700 took 3:48 to start up. Im using build 188.8.131.522 with 94.2MB free space of application memory. This is with thousands of sms and emails, and lookout mobile security and bebuzz on startup
My 9700 doesn't take that long and has many apps/email's/messages etc! Must be around the 5 minute mark at the very latest!
DerekC28 Aug 10, 2010 at 2:29 pm
with AT&T and 14 apps. Reboot took 2 minutes and 38 seconds.
kiddoo24 Aug 10, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Just did a boot up time test and my 9700 v184.108.40.2062 took exactly 1 min, 43 sec!
iloveyiyi Aug 10, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Hm... this might propel me toward the new 9800...
JusticeCalibur Aug 10, 2010 at 2:35 pm
I'm with 9700 AT&T running its official OS. Agreeing with some of the previous posters, I would have to say that Memory Cleaning is enable. Reason for the long reboot.
davidnc Aug 10, 2010 at 2:39 pm
My 8330 booted faster runnng 220.127.116.11 leaked ,not impressed
denisonhihi Aug 10, 2010 at 2:42 pm
my 9630 just booted in 2mins 39secs with 9 apps. I am on a hybrid tho
kfroese Aug 10, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Curve 8330 on Bell
Running latest BBTweaks public 5.0 hybrid (v11)
Reboot = 4:11 (to home screen)
Stopped up/downloading = 5:51
Launch apps = about 6:30
20.6 Mb on boot up
-17 3rd-party apps (including 3rd party email program)
-11 Add-ons apps
-About 750 contacts, 25 calendar entries
I've seen my buddy's 9700 reboot in about 3 minutes when we compared his phone to my ancient 8330 (waiting for Bell to get Torch!)
ekim501 Aug 10, 2010 at 2:50 pm
My 9700 took about 10 min when I had the 188.8.131.523 OS installed – I now have the 22.214.171.1242 OS installed and it takes 3 min.
crownr0yal Aug 10, 2010 at 2:51 pm
4 mins flat. teehee.
JimIllinois Aug 10, 2010 at 2:52 pm
1 min, 52 sec, from battery plug-in to a clean desktop. My only outside app is Google Maps, and I use the stock theme.
v22.214.171.1242, installed over the weekend.
1magine Aug 10, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Don't know about the ability to re-compile info in BB6 on Torch, but like everything else surrounding Torch and 6, I imagine it is a marginal upgrade. Just enough to get noticed but not near enough to make anyone think you actually had a modern smartphone. Just think if the Torch had the hardware of the incredible, galaxy, X, or D2. 1ghz cpu, 512 RAM and 8 megs dedicated to aplication/media storage. Bat pull restart would be half complete by the time you got the cover back on.
cloudberry Aug 10, 2010 at 3:01 pm
after doing reboot test for Blackberry 9700 with :
OS 220.127.116.113 / 6 minutes 35 secs.
i decide to upgrade into
OS 184.108.40.2063, reboot time : 6 minutes 45 secs
HOW COME????i thought newer OS will definitely cut down the reboot time
i only have 4 third party applications :(
squane123#CB Aug 10, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Notice all of the storm owner posts... So much faster than everyone else... SUCK ON THAT...Show me the STORM 3 with OS 7...haha
French Aug 10, 2010 at 3:04 pm
RIM should be ashamed. And for those saying their phone reboots in less than 5 minutes...I'm guessing you have less than 10 third party apps.
There are some of us out here with a lot more than 10 third party apps and yes I do use them.
I have up timing my Storm 2 reboots after 10 minutes. But you do know they are at least 10 minutes.
Jaredius Aug 10, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Even a 5 minute boot-up time is rediculous. I cringe every time I have to pull the batt, do an alt-shift-del or reboot after an app install or delete.
I hope OS6 speeds that up on my 9700. I am concerned that OS6 is going to have speed and resource issues for us 9700 owners, forcing us back to OS5...hence the birth of the 9780.
tecknical Aug 10, 2010 at 3:13 pm
my 9650 takes 12:14 to boot
Mushu118 Aug 10, 2010 at 3:17 pm
My 9650 takes on average 3 mins to boot! I don't know whats up with yours!
cloudberry Aug 10, 2010 at 3:17 pm
i did 2nd reboot after getting pissed, i upgrade my OS, from 22.214.171.1246 : 6 mnts 35 sec to 22.214.171.1243 : 5 mnts 45 secs. that's impossible right? newer OS always shorter reboot time.
final reboot 5 mnts 9 secs
212 BBM contact
30 BB contact
Twitter for Blackberry
1 BIS account (never use)
Capture It
Babelphone English-Chinese
Interlecta Translator
smhism Aug 10, 2010 at 3:18 pm
My storm 1 w/ .419, 4-5 3rd party apps (couldn't hold much more) and 3 3rd party themes would usually boot up anywhere from 2:20 to 3 minutes. Current phone w/ 23 apps - 45 seconds. RIM seriously needs to up their hardware.
chuckh0308 Aug 10, 2010 at 3:18 pm
I had two Storm 1's that booted in just over two minutes. One was consistently 2:09 and the other 2:33 no matter what OS. The one that took 2:33 had plenty of apps and data on it, the 2:09 was just factory stuff. So, it is possible for the older berrys to boot in the two minute range.
However, my Storm2 9550 is a turtle. It takes about seven minutes to boot. I usually fall asleep while I'm waiting for it...lol! On the bright side, the only time I reboot it is with app updates and such, except for maybe two times that were due to issues.
tonywonder Aug 10, 2010 at 3:21 pm
My Bold 9000 takes about 5.5 mins. That includes entering my password and it loading the rest. I have high security settings on my Phone. Its also the first Gen Bold 9000.
chuckh0308 Aug 10, 2010 at 3:24 pm
After reading the posts it seems as though some devices just plain boot faster than others no matter what model. I bet if Adam were to redo this test using different phones of the same models he would get different results. I wonder why that is though?
joebmxx Aug 10, 2010 at 3:25 pm
my curve 8520 loads up in about 3-4 mins on os 5
E_Brown Aug 10, 2010 at 3:29 pm
4 minutes 20 seconds
blakeberry Aug 10, 2010 at 3:31 pm
This made me curious regarding the two BlackBerry's I have in front of me. My Storm 9530, which I have had for quite some time and my Bold 9000 through my work.
Storm 9530, OS 126.96.36.1997 (BIS) clocked at 3:04.74
Bold 9000, OS 18.104.22.1684 (BES) clocked at 2:01.38
I guess that's not too bad. Running the official OS on the Bold and a leaked OS on the Storm.
mslee1 Aug 10, 2010 at 3:34 pm
I just did a boot test with my Verizon
9650 that is approximately a 10 days old. Very few apps so far (Facebook, TFLN, GoogleTalk, USAA, Pandora).
Total boot time: 2min, 50s
Jay_Neutron Aug 10, 2010 at 3:39 pm
My T-Mobile 9700 running 5.0.862 loads in under 2 minutes. I dont even think my Bold with the stock OS took 10 minutes.
rupalazzi Aug 10, 2010 at 3:42 pm
I don't know guys, but in my opinion the test should had been with all devices running the same OS, or all devices running as they come from factory. That way you could messure how well the hardware handles the software, otherwise there are too many factors that varies from one device to the other.
Besides, I don't understand how a Bold 9700 takes almost 10 minutes to boot up. I own a 8900, running OS 188.8.131.522, with a lot of apps on it (since I've been doing some testing), and it does even take the 6 minutes that the Bold 9650 took.
hawk2100n Aug 10, 2010 at 3:43 pm
4:59 on my ATT 9700 with 220.127.116.112 and 80 MB free.
2:56: For the T-Mobile splash screen to appear.
3:06: The moment 9700 finish verifying security software.
nsx1164 Aug 10, 2010 at 3:56 pm
I reboot every day - AT&T Curve 8900, OS 220.127.116.119
Reboot times are typically on the 5-6 minute range.
- 10+ BIS email accounts
- 400+ email contacts
- 24 BBM contacts
- large mailbox
- approx 30 third-party apps including several GPS/intensive
FB, Vodafone Update, Twitter, LinkedIn, Google Talk, Yammer, Trillian, etc
Foursquare, ATT NAV, other GPS apps
michikade Aug 10, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Bold 9650 running .810
Boot time is right at 4 minutes.
(I had a bad database last weekend, however, and my boot time was around 22 minutes. YIKES! But a wipe fixed that issue)
MRWOLF6969 Aug 10, 2010 at 3:56 pm
ON US CELL W/ 71 Contacts 32 Programs 6 Emails 5 texts and have a reboot time of 4:05 on my 8350 running 22.214.171.1244
spiraleze Aug 10, 2010 at 3:55 pm
My battery pull time on my 9650 is about 7 minutes. The big difference is with my previous Tour I would lose memory and have to reset every 24-48 hours or the unit would start to lag. With my 9650, I often go 2 WEEKS without resetting because I lose zero memory and have no problems. I look forward to BB6 reducing reboot time as I sometimes change batteries on the fly.
Square85 Aug 10, 2010 at 3:57 pm
My ex gf 9700 would boot in about 4-5 minutes and she has more apps than me.
My 9650 is ridiculous. I have maybe 10 apps but my msgs are there for the max 30 days and it takes anywhere from 8-12 minutes to boot up. I'd rather have the faster processor than the extra ram.
I rebooted my friends 8900 at the same time as my 9650 last night and her phone was back on the home screen when mine was about 25%.
kukaluka Aug 10, 2010 at 4:08 pm
My bold 9700 with the OS 220.127.116.112 boots up at 2 minutes and 15 seconds. Recorded it twice with the same average results of 2.15.
My phone 8 E-mail account on BIS plan. About 15 3rd part apps. Also has a 3rd party theme applied.
Illuminated_A Aug 10, 2010 at 4:05 pm
9700. 22 downloaded apps plus bbm. running OS .862 :-)
bolded7 Aug 10, 2010 at 4:07 pm
2:40 on my Bold 9000 running 126.96.36.1991. I thought that was a long time until I just saw this video.
BB_Addict_09 Aug 10, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Bone stock AT&T 9700 with .656 booted up completely in 1:32.
Should be getting my Torch on Thursday so I'll have to see how the two compare....
Five50What Aug 10, 2010 at 4:10 pm
shrunk OS 18.104.22.1683
39 3rd party apps w/114.5MB available
Takes like eleventeen minutes to reboot....suck
Mikey52 Aug 10, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Wow.. I'd kill myself if my phone took that long to boot up.
My S1 boots in less than 3 mins.. 220.127.116.119
ShellyMiddleton Aug 10, 2010 at 4:26 pm
I have a loaded Storm 2 9550 os 188.8.131.523. It just took mine a full 13 minutes to come up from a battery pull.
heartagram616 Aug 10, 2010 at 4:32 pm
about 1 minute to be fully functional upon reboot of my Droid X. I sure do miss certain things about blackberry but the OS and boot times i do not.
cerhardt Aug 10, 2010 at 4:35 pm
It takes my Bold 9700 13m 48s to reboot.
My current version in 188.8.131.522
22 3rd party apps
3rd party theme
8 email accounts.
***I only reboot if my phone freezes up, so only about 1x a month for this very reason!***
R0Bzombie Aug 10, 2010 at 4:49 pm
My bold 9700 on rogers running official vodaphone 184.108.40.2062 is doing 4min10secs
Frank2029 Aug 10, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Just tested my girlfriends 9700 on 184.108.40.2062. 3 minutes and 7 seconds.
time for an OS change there... fkin 9 minutes... you kidding me?
mikeppolson Aug 10, 2010 at 5:01 pm
My 9700 takes 3 minutes
geotos Aug 10, 2010 at 5:08 pm
My 9700 took 2:28 to boot up.
snakecdboy Aug 10, 2010 at 5:32 pm
My bold 9700 takes 2 minutes maximumm with using a Hybrid from willboy V7 and with .862 take around 2:30 minutes maximumm, and it is a super extremly fast software. love it..
HTC_Droid_EvO Aug 10, 2010 at 6:03 pm
The dont call it research in slow motion for nothing
richiebrewer Aug 10, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Our Bold 9000 running the latest hybrid beat the Torch, by a solid 20-30 seconds. Another 9000 running the next-to-latest version of the hybrid was just as fast as the Torch. The Torch beat the 2nd Bold to the AT&T splash screen, but the Bold caught up and they finished verifying the security settings at the same time.
TillMarch Aug 10, 2010 at 6:06 pm
33 seconds :p
crazy2513 Aug 10, 2010 at 6:12 pm
3 min 20 seconds.
addictedlypink Aug 10, 2010 at 6:12 pm
v.126.96.36.1993 2mins.. not much apps on it tho..
nikkisharif Aug 10, 2010 at 6:14 pm
4min 51sec
vedelorme Aug 10, 2010 at 6:14 pm
my bold 9700 .586 os...... 2 minutes 23 seconds!!! what do you have on your BB 9700 that it took so long?
Flyerguy Aug 10, 2010 at 6:20 pm
My Bold 9700 is loaded up with data and my battery pull restart took 3:23.. My 8310 Curve didn't take anywhere near 9:00 mins.
i rebooted my nearly fully loaded 9630 at the exact sametime as he started the other blackberry's, and to my suprise the 9630 fully started well before the 9650 and 9700
mirren Aug 10, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Running Jasper's new hybrid. Over 40 apps, 10 themes, with heavy email, texting and BBM loads and my reboot is averaging 4:50.
RubberBroke Aug 10, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Here we go Timer started the moment the battery hit the contact points...
Boot Time : 6m 40s (Including Security Check and Network Lock)
Phone : 9700
Carrier : Vodafone (India)
Free Memory : 86MB
WiFi : On
Radio : On
Phonebook : 520 Contacts
E-mail : 5 Accounts
SMS : 24 Messages
BBM : 8 Contacts
Loaded Apps (Manual Launch) : 33 apps. (Excluding the ones below) :D
TSR Apps (Loaded in Memory) : VeryBusy, bbCard, MessageSchedule, SMS Vcard Addon, LinkedIn, Alarm Clock, Documents to Go Files, Where's My Phone, BerryBuzz, LaterDude, OneTouch Flashlight, Call Blocker, Snippits, Add to Contact 2, MultiClipboard and regular BB core apps. :D
squire Aug 10, 2010 at 7:20 pm
I didn't know the amount of apps you have had an effect. I don't that many apps on this phone.
mutlus Aug 10, 2010 at 7:23 pm
9700 on 220.127.116.112, Turkcell, with lots of installed apps (80MB free app-memory), 8 of them starting at launch and also 400 messages, 350 calendar entries, 250 contacts. It just took 3m57seconds.
geek126 Aug 10, 2010 at 7:26 pm
I have 13 3rd party apps and my reboot took 3 minutes and 48 seconds
aviatorjud Aug 10, 2010 at 7:29 pm
...a very scientific test. The only way to compare is with freshly wiped phones. And even then, the OS version can make a huge difference.
donnation Aug 10, 2010 at 8:11 pm
A load time of over 2 minutes is still ridiculously slow.
LayzieBone075 Aug 10, 2010 at 8:22 pm
10 mins?? I've never seen any BB take 10 mins to reload! Hahaha you must have A LOT of apps haha!
sniickers Aug 10, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Oddly enough I had just reset my 9550 about a minute before watching this video and the 9800 beat it by like 20 secs. Thats a big ups to me. But being I never had a 9700 but have family members who do, I never reset one and I am quite surprised how long that took. BTW my 9550 has encryption on and security.
sniickers Aug 10, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Oddly enough I had just reset my 9550 about a minute before watching this video and the 9800 beat it by like 20 secs. Thats a big ups to me. But being I never had a 9700 but have family members who do, I never reset one and I am quite surprised how long that took. BTW my 9550 has encryption on and security.
PsychoGeek Aug 10, 2010 at 8:40 pm
My 9700 reboot around 8:20
Contacts: 2055
Calendar Entries: 62
BIS Email Accounts: 6
Email Messages: 1239
SMS Messages: 2885
Free Memory: 67MB
with SmrtGuard and Adorno! MultiAlarm running in the background
I'm not sure how others claimed they got less then 3 mins...maybe the amount of data you have also play it parts in your BB reboot time
eagle007 Aug 10, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Thought that I would try it while watching this video...total time 2 mins 6 seconds.
Doc_rockulus Aug 10, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Total start up time: 3:15
Battery in - Telus screen: 3:00
15s before it would let me unlock.
19 mb free, not too much installed, reinstalled system software two days ago.
jaredberry Aug 10, 2010 at 9:39 pm
2 min 20 secs with folders and folders full of all kinds o apps.....................
jorgerangel159 Aug 10, 2010 at 9:40 pm
My 9700 boots up in 1min or less
NYBOLD9700 Aug 10, 2010 at 9:50 pm
3:40... feels like an eternity tho when you need to make a call!
laollis Aug 10, 2010 at 9:59 pm
2 min 3 sec
imingwahyudi Aug 10, 2010 at 10:03 pm
yes, it did round that...3 email accounts, with several apps...:D
snieves Aug 10, 2010 at 10:36 pm
The Bold 9000 running almost any version of 5.0 would beat every one of them, by a lot.... my 9000 takes 1:10min to boot
snieves Aug 10, 2010 at 10:37 pm
and its running a frack load of apps too...
dreamliner787 Aug 10, 2010 at 11:34 pm
after reading this article and putting my Verizon 9630 to the test, I realized slow is giving my phone too much credit. After over 10 minutes, the load bar is about 60-65% loaded. I will comment again when it is done. EDIT: I think my phone froze because its been 15 minutes, and its still at 60-65%....
dreamliner787 Aug 10, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Official time for it to reboot completely: 17:23 That's absurd
isteal Aug 10, 2010 at 11:41 pm
I spent the night playing with all my old BBs and the current one (9650). I recorded all of my boot times with their configuration...
Bold 9650 - 220.127.116.112 = 9:11 (no sd, 14-3rd-party apps,
bbm data, etc., no service books)
- 188.8.131.522 - 8:26 (SD card inserted,
14 3rd party apps, bbm data, VZW service books)
(Weird that it was faster with vzw crap)
Tour 9630 - 126.96.36.199 = 5:42 (no sd, factory fresh,
connected to VZW service books)
- 220.127.116.112 = 6:40 (sd, factory fresh, vzw service
Curve 8330 - 184.108.40.206 = 2:05 (no service books)
184.108.40.206 = 3:46 (vzw service books, factory fresh)
8703e - 220.127.116.11 = 1:25 (factory fresh, no service books)
kthomp Aug 10, 2010 at 11:45 pm
this is all def due to the new OS... and of course the memory and hopefully processor upgrade.
nick13b Aug 11, 2010 at 12:26 am
well folks one thing that the Storm1 can do better than your phone is boot up time! I have 20 mb free and it only takes my phone 2 minutes and 5 seconds to boot! And thats with the newest O.S 18.104.22.1687!
infinus Aug 11, 2010 at 12:39 am
my 9700 takes 2-3 min max, on Voadfone .862
Apps: Docs to Go premium + pdf to go, Google Talk, some File Manager.
Games: None.
Emails: 6 + 1.
Other data: 675Kb (phone book + calander, Task, password keeper, Memo)
nolan.b Aug 11, 2010 at 1:24 am
Hey guys,
The last official OS .862 boots up similar to the 9800 where the "dash" goes to 3/4 quickly. And definitely don't wait more than 3-4 minutes to boot (as others have claimed with same OS)
But kudos on the 9800.
Cheers to the test.
mitchsurp Aug 11, 2010 at 2:36 am
With the latest available OS (.862), my 9700 has a boot time of just about 3 minutes.
chawki212 Aug 11, 2010 at 3:04 am
I tried my 9700 Tmobile with the Video and it finished just before your 9650, i think that the 9700 hat you are trying is in it's first restart after an update or something...
chunt69 Aug 11, 2010 at 3:36 am
Tryed this a couple of times, first time took 3:45 the second time it took 3:55.
I have a fair amount of apps(62mb left), 2 emails and far too many txt messages running an old O/S 188.8.131.521
10mins is just mad, i couldn't live with that.
tarick Aug 11, 2010 at 5:43 am
my bold 9000 reboots in aprox 2 minutes and 5 seconds which is faster then the torch and its currently loaded to the brim with msgs and apps wtf?
junior_831 Aug 11, 2010 at 5:55 am
Bold 9700 on TMo running Os 22.214.171.1242.
Deleted all my msgs, call history, and browser cache/history etc... Took 8 minutes and 11 seconds to boot up from red LED to 100% security software check. Way too long, if u ask me. My memory went up from 77 Mb to 85.
tobush Aug 11, 2010 at 7:34 am
My 9700 takes only 2 minutes and 48 seconds.
Its from Rogers Wireless (white).
I've used it for 6 months.
The OS I'm using is 18.104.22.1683 os (app version)
So please take this misleading video down. Thanks.
HTC_Droid_EvO Aug 11, 2010 at 7:58 am
Clearly the BB line has been plagued with horrid boot times and a few hybrid users haven't changed that at all.
It's something that should have been fixed by now ....the iPhone,galaxy series and Droid line don't take this long and do a billion and one more things......no excuses
Yeah, something wonky going on here....my Verizon 9650 does NOT take that long to boot, and I have plenty of apps loaded......
Connor83 Aug 11, 2010 at 9:09 am
My bold 9700 took 5:28 I have around 50 installed apps, I only have 36.4Mb left in app memory. My encryption is off. My time went up by 5 minuets with full encryption, including memory card (4Gb, 2Gb used). Also I do not delete text messages and I use about 3-4k a month and have had my phone since it came out. I am running 18.104.22.1682 on att.
MattyPea Aug 11, 2010 at 9:10 am
...with 123mb of free space after the .862 OS and Google Maps, Pandora, Mp3 Ringtone Creator, BerryBuzz, BerryJoose, Memory Booster and MeterBerry; with memory cleaning turned off boots in under 3 min after a hard reset.
fatalnova Aug 11, 2010 at 9:33 am
3mins for my BB 8120 from T-mobile
tresa1980 Aug 11, 2010 at 11:21 am
schrack3000 Aug 11, 2010 at 11:34 am
One of the many reasons I don't miss my Tour. Reboots took 5 minutes or so. On my droid incredible? 30 seconds or so.
greenii Aug 11, 2010 at 12:18 pm
And it still takes me upwards of 7 minutes to turn on, after a battery pull. About 90 seconds of that 7 minutes, is from the final "security verification" screen - seemingly an awful long time! After battery pull, I have about 27mb of memory.
Anguish Aug 11, 2010 at 12:39 pm
My 9700 running 126.96.36.1993 on Bell takes in the realm of 15 minute to boot up to the point it's usable. It's BES activated, has a 2G SD card, has 114M free with memory compression enabled. (Disabling it didn't help.)
I also pull a BIS account.
I've got a custom theme (Hypaereon Sliq), BerryBuzz, BerryPopup, BeWeather Free, Blockberry, Bolt, CaptureIt, eOffice Mobile Data Alerter, Ka-Glom Free, KeePass, VQI Mileage Tracker, PageOnce Mobile Minutes Tracker, Opera, QuickPull, Crackberry Superstore, and VersaTool.
Really there's been no meaningful degradation over the last 9 months as I've added more, and more, and more. Most of the 3rd party apps and the BIS account got added long after the phone was bought.
Really, BES is what killed it.
darkstar3D Aug 14, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Odd, my lowly 9000 takes just over two minutes after a battery pull.
ras fonzo Aug 15, 2010 at 6:48 am
My 8900 is running os184.108.40.2061 and it takes 2minutes 19seconds which is a great improvement from my previos 8520 which took 10minutes to reboot running same os.
breakmedown Aug 15, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Now, maybe this is just my personal experience, but I find boot time is directly related to how often. Seems like the longer I go without rebooting my phone (anywhere from a couple days to a week or more) the longer it takes to reboot.
breakmedown Aug 15, 2010 at 3:14 pm
I'm running a BB8900 with OS 18.104.22.1681
I've got about 115k of 207k free memory.
I've got 3155 SMS, 12 MMS, and 97 messages.
I've got an uptime of about 131300 seconds, and I've got the 2G radio and WiFi on.
Boot time: 3:30
Alright, now, the next one.
I've got 122k of 207k free.
97 Messages, 12 MMS, and 3164 SMS.
Uptime now, though, is only about 2500 seconds.
Boot time: 3:30
Both times I left the battery out for about 30 seconds. Obviously the data and everything is the same both times. Generally speaking I do a soft reset with the left alt combination, but these times I did complete battery pulls. I guess it really doesn't make any difference about the uptime. Always seemed like it did, though.
torro. Aug 17, 2010 at 2:37 pm
I have a BB 9700, running on OS v5 and am getting battery pull/reboot time averaging 2m 20s.
2 possible reasons for your rebooot times;
1.You have way too much junk (i refer to data as being junk) in your phone and are bogging it down. Most likely if you were getting a reboot time of over 9m, a need for app/data deletion is warranted.
Best bet keep your phone clean and only have apps that you really need on your phone.
2. Your phone is defective and need another one.
My BB 9700 is faster than BB torch!!!
torro. Aug 18, 2010 at 1:52 pm
whoops double post***
Jude526 Aug 22, 2010 at 11:13 pm
only takes about 2 min to reboot
dpoverlord Aug 31, 2010 at 2:16 pm
[B]BB 9650 with 3rd party apps & games installed:[/B]
Initial Settings:
Adress Book 3567
SMS messages 28,271
Messages 9,010
Battery Pull/Reboot time 15:39
[B]Clean Wipe on .732[/B]
Nothing installed on 9650 (no data)
3min:40 sec
[B]Installed with new Blackbery OS.865[/B]
[B]Clean Wipe on .865[/B]
Nothing installed on 9650 (no data)
2min:10 sec
Data transfer of contacts, password/memopad, contacts and messages:
Adress Book 3567
SMS messages 0
Messages 9,010
Bootup time: 4min 40 secs
Data transfer of contacts, password/memopad, contacts, messages AND SMS:
Adress Book 3,567
SMS messages 28,271
Messages 9,010
Bootup time:
albertinik Oct 6, 2010 at 4:28 pm
what os u running on that 9700??!! mines take 2,38 min!
Puti Pinoy Nov 11, 2010 at 7:14 am
I have a blackberry bold 9700 with at&t and want to remove thire provisoning so that i can take it to another company and provision it with them dose any one know how to do it ro direct me to some one that can?!!!!... anyones help would be greatly aperciated greatly!....


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Imagine what would be possible if we were to bring this level of class to all aspects of life (business, bumper stickers, politics, driving, ...). Why, we could have a civil society.
Thanks, Sal.
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Imagine what would be possible if we were to bring this level of class to all aspects of life (business, bumper stickers, politics, driving, ...). Why, we could have a civil society.
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This is really a great point and goes to the core of why I love Spyderco. When I carry a Spyderco I feel like I have a lot more than a knife in my pocket. My s are a symbol of integrity which I strive to live by. Seems like most folk on the forum feel the same.Originally Posted by EarthDog
You're the boss =]
Hope to see ya back at the NY show, even though I know it invokes way to much drama
i will be one of the first to say that i am pretty impressed with the way the members here behave. sal, you are a good man. you manage an awesome company, and you obviously have a clear vision of right and wrong and act accordingly. i have met few men of industry who werent only in it for the profit. i have seen the sharp maker instructional, and have just started communication on this forum, and i have seen many good things here. i am honored to be a member, and to have you represent a great american company. and of course, thanks for the great knives too!
you're an inspiration to us all, mr.Glesser! ive really looked up to you and ive really been impressed with the way you handle sensitive issues and the way you manage Spyderco. you produce the best knives out there, and that alone would have already made me a great fan. but you and your company go further than that, and show great service and business ethics. what more can a customer ask? Spyderco is one company that's shown innovation and advancement of big-league corporations, while still retaining the warmth and service of a "shop around the corner".
Sal, thanks for showing us that it's still possible to be the best in your field, while still keeping your feet on the ground.. and that it's still possible to have a large, successful company, while still being able to be honest and dedicated to your customers. it seems so simple, but there are only few i know of that's achieve such balance.
Thanx for all of the kind comments. It is appreciated and they are certainly good for my ego, but in reality, I cannot claim all credit.
Spyderco is made up of a small group of "like-minded-people" developed over many years. They have their own very strong core values. They always try to do the right things for the right reasons, and conduct business in an honest, fair and proper manner.
It is not likely that they would permit improper behavior in product or practice, with or without me.
Many decisions are made each day by this team. (Most without my involvement).
I will say that I'm proud to be part of the Spyderco team.
I love this company's integrity! Sal and team, I salute you all!
Thank you for this forum. You make it a nice place to be.
- best wishes, Jazz.
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Spyderco Rocks!!!! "A wise man once said all knives were created equal...Obviously, he meant Spydercos''
As of 1-29-08, I am a proud member of Knife Rights!
I think it's time for this to come back up to the top for a while.
There is nothing more important than this one day.
It would be nice if Spyderco fans could extend the same courtesy on the other forums that they frequent.
When I have raised the issue on a certain British knife forum I have been told words to the extent of "Spyderco don't have an official presence here, so I can do what I want".
That doesn't say "shiny footprints" to me.
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Are we allowed to talk about other knife brands? Are we allowed to compare and contrast Spydies vs. others?
Although I will say that Spyderco is the sweetest of knives.... I do have many other brands of blades.... What is considered "talking bad" about the other knives company's?
If I say that my Benchmade scratches very very easily... is that wrong?
These are the forum rules and I definitely respect and agree with you. It is a priviledge for all of us to have this site and be here. I totally understand your opinion of this subject.
Spyderco Forums would be like any other if we were allowed to bash the competition. That is not why I am here. I am here to discuss my love and admiration of Spyderco knives. Nothing more nothing less.
Thank you Sal
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Sal, is this an accurate reflection, on my part?
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Sal your an inspiration to me and i feel sure i can say the same for all of us in this forum and i am proud to be a member of this fine group of forum members,I wish you many years of success.
As a new member to the forums I will be sure not to bash other knife companies. I have had other knives but I no longer buy anything but Spyderco simply because they are the best and not capable of comparing on the same scale.
Have you ever tried to compare a paper plane to a jet fighter? They both fly but it's not fare to bash the paper plane because it not as fast as the jet fighter. I like paper planes, they have their uses, I own a few and they get done what they are designed to do at the price I pay for them. When I want to win the race I will always go for the jet fighter.
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This course is recognised for registration purposes by the Psychology Board of Australia (PBA) and is accredited by the Australian Psychology Accreditation Council (APAC).
Psychology Honours consists of two components: coursework and a thesis. The coursework component (consisting of classes and seminars) contributes 50% to the final grade of Honours awarded. As required by the accreditation guidelines of the Australian Psychological Society, the coursework covers:
For further details of the coursework component, see the unit description for HPS425 and HPS426.
The thesis component (see HPS427 and HPS428) contributes 50% to the final grade of honours awarded. The thesis is a write-up (current length approximately 9000 words) of an individual research project based on an original piece of empirical research. A range of types of data (qualitative, quantitative, subjective, objective) and a range of data-collection settings and methodologies can be used as the basis of the thesis component.
The thesis is submitted in two parts: a 4000-word literature review submitted mid-year and a 5000-word report on the empirical component submitted in October. The literature review and empirical report section of the thesis typically contribute 15% and 35% respectively to the final mark for the thesis component. Both sections are marked by two independent markers.
Attendance and presentation at the annual School Honours Conference and attendance at the weekly School Research Colloquia are hurdle requirements.
|Honours in Psychology Part A
|Honours in Psychology Part B
|Honours in Psychology Part C
|Honours in Psychology Part D