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rich smyth
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March 24, 2012, 10:37:52 AM »
I was thinking about the controversy regarding Booth and Herold's horses in the swamp and was wondering...what do you do with horses when they die?
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March 24, 2012, 12:34:44 PM »
Neither shooting or cutting their throats would make those horses sink. You would have to dismbowel them so they would sink. I agree with Mr. Hall, horses were scarce and valuble back then.
"It was a walking graveyard"
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March 24, 2012, 04:34:58 PM »
Thanks for the horse lesson Betty. I really had no idea how they were disposed of.
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March 24, 2012, 06:47:38 PM »
Joe Gleason told me at the conference last week that a few years ago someone found horses' bits identical to the particular types used by Booth and Herold in a dried out portion of the Zekiah swamp. I realize this should be treated with great caution.
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March 25, 2012, 06:37:32 AM »
Joe has a great story and the evidence is pretty sound. I am a believer.
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March 25, 2012, 07:11:17 AM »
I have seen those bits/parts. And I am skeptical. The Zekiah is very acidtic, and I would guess the pH would hover around 4-5, and after those metal "parts" have been "exposed" by all seasons of weather for 147 years, I would think they would disinigrate or be triturated by now. Neil Young said it best, "Rust Never Sleeps"
Last Edit: March 25, 2012, 11:19:23 AM by Randal
"It was a walking graveyard"
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March 25, 2012, 05:14:27 PM »
"There is only one reason why someone would put the horses in the swamp.. ...they didn't want anyone to find them."
The link below shows the view that Captain Cox had from the top of the hill overlooking Clark's Run and
Zekiah Swamp. The video begins in the direction of Clark's Run (see map) then panning left to Zekiah Swamp which is located behind the large high voltage power lines.
No one heard the gunshots because no one lived here.
There is physical and documentable evidence that Booth's and Herold's horses were killed in the Zekiah Swamp in Charles Co. Md. These excerpts provide some of the clues to the location in the swamp where the horses were apparently taken.
"On the third or fourth day after Booth reached the pines, it was decided to dispose of their horses, which had become restless from lack of food and proper stabling,as it was feared that their neighing would betray them. Accordingly, Herold and Franklin A. Robey, Capt. Cox's overseer at the time, led the horses about two miles
distant into Zekiah Swamp, where it makes a junction with Clark's Run, and here they were shot. As the place was boggy, the bodies of the dead horse disappeared from view in the course of a week, and were never seen afterward.
The carcasses of these animals, however, came near betraying Captain Cox. A large troop of colored cavalrymen ( 22nd Regiment US Army ) came to the residence for the purpose of securing information as to the route taken by the assassins after they left Rich Hill. (Herold : "we went to Zekiah Swamp and stayed there two nights")
Captain Cox showed them the general direction of their course early Sunday morning, which was toward Zekiah Swamp. The troopers started for the swamp and Captain Cox and his son retired to a knoll a fourth of a mile to the rear of his house, which commanded an extensive view of the entrance to the swamp in the valley below. Would they or would they not enter below the horses? Captain Cox nervously questioned. " My son, said he, if those men enter below the spot where the bodies of the horses are, I shall hang for it".
Victor Louis Mason ( Four Lincoln Conspiracies , pg.905)
" Now, our troubles began (when) squad after squad of soldiers marched up to the house to search and question. I will remember about the begining or the middle of the week succeeding their (Booth/ Herold ) departure from this neighborhood, a command of negro troops surrounded the house and searched freom garret to cellar. They left and deployed toward Zekiah Swamp lying east-southeast from Rich Hill.
After they left, Pa and I went on the hill overlooking Zakiah Swamp and as the negroes entered the swamp we could see the buzzards hovering over where the slain horses were sinking out of sight in the mire of Zakiah bog. But they were never discovered and their fate would have never been told, but that Thomas A. Jones, the surviving principle in the affair was induced some five or six years ago to disclose the secret to George Alfred Townsend. ".
Samuel Cox Jr.
for more about Booth's and Herold's horses go here
...and here;
{There are three "categories" of the CHEMICAL soil-conditions which affect long-buried iron relics:
High-ground (well-drained soil, such as a hillside)
Non-saltwater lowground soil (such as a swamp, or even a low creekbank)
Saltwater low-ground soil (such as a coastal saltmarsh).
Each of those three soil-chemistry environments have a significantly DIFFERENT AFFECT on the relic's iron ...which must be carefully considered when we attempt to preserve the relic by using either Electrolysis or Zinc-&-Lye Bath to remove the rust/soil concretion from the relic. Iron (unlike brass, copper, silver, lead, etc) is a very porous metal. The thousands of microscopic pores can permit salts and acids to penetrate past the iron's "skin," sometimes - but not always - deeply within the relic.
If saltwater is given decades to penetrate the iron, when the relic is excavated and it dries out, the salt gradually forms crystals which can literally crack the relic's skin into fragments.
Swampwater (or any "stagnant" surface groundwater) contains tannic acid - from decaying leaves. In such water the tannic acid is very weak ...but given decades, it can cause serious "leaching" of iron molecules from out of the "skin" of the iron relic. What is left behind in that relic's skin is the carbon (specifically, the mineral known as Graphite) that was in the original iron ore. This is why we artillery-shell collectors tend to call a swamp-dug shell a "graphitized" shell. The skin of such shells
resembles pencil-lead (which is actually Graphite). It can be quite soft.}
bay mare
was wearing a single bit like this half cheek snaffle. Relatively inexpensive bit for the horse-in training and perfect for a horse that was continuosly
breaking it's reins.
Found in Zekiah Swamp
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March 26, 2012, 05:25:16 AM »
Finis Bates knew what happened to the horses because Booth, ...er, ..um St. Helen told him!
General Dana says Booth and Herold killed their horses while hiding behind the Cox plantation on the Potomac
River, ( actually Zekiah Swamp ) but Booth says the horses were not killed but taken away, as he supposed by
Mr. Jones. That this is, I am inclined to believe, for two reasons;
First, the horse ridden by Booth and described to me by St. Helen (Booth) was a very fine and valuable animal,
purchased by him in Maryland some time before this event.
The second reason is that Gen. Dana's men were to close on Booth and Herold to permit the killing of their horses, which must have been done by shooting them.
Finis Bates 1907
The Escape and Suicide of John Wilkes Booth
I do not subscribe to Mr. Hall's theory regarding Booth's and Herold's horses.
Last Edit: September 13, 2013, 09:24:15 AM by Joe Gleason
rich smyth
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March 26, 2012, 05:34:20 AM »
Kauffman saw the "Robey" saddle and discounted it.
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March 26, 2012, 08:00:19 AM »
Hello All,
Just a couple of points to help confirm some of what has been said already;
My family raised Thourobred horses and I spent most of my life in the stables and in the hunt field. Betty knows what a snaffle bit is for; CONTROL. In the hunt field, where a horse is apt to be very excited / excitable and thus more difficult to control, double snaffles with curb chain {and a martingale}, like the ones Betty showed are a real good choice.
Knackers would come to the farm if it was necessary to haul away a large animal; it is not a happy scene. The animal is cabled by the back legs and drawn into the truck by means of an motorized winch, but I have dug a couple of very large holes in a back pasture for smaller horses.
As to "those horses" being sunk into the swamp, I just cannot buy it at any price, for many reasons which I will not bore you with here, but I have written an article on the subject of the horses fate, which appeared in the Courier, if you wish to inflict it upon yourself.
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March 26, 2012, 12:46:58 PM »
Hi Laurie,
You are correct in the saddle being identified as a McClellen (whatever that is). I spoke to
rich smyth
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March 26, 2012, 12:48:01 PM »
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Bob Cook a few weeks ago and he remembered seeing the saddle and identifying it the same as Mike.
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March 26, 2012, 07:13:03 PM »
I think that we're talking about the same guy. Wesley Harris asked if I had ever heard of a guy in Charles County who claimed to have found B & H's campsite at Brice Chapel along the Zekiah. This was sometime back in the 80s. The man also said he had a pistol with JWB (help Wes) stamped on the grip or something like that. Anyway, if this is the same person that you are referring to, he should have realized early on that Herold's 'I think I will go visit Parson Wilmer at Piney'.. or whatever.. was just a ruse. Brice Chapel was located along the Zekiah at Piney Church, which is on the opposite side of the swamp from the route that B&H took down Cracklingtown Rd.
..I didn't forget you Rick! I'm working up a map of the pines.
Last Edit: March 21, 2014, 04:47:18 AM by Joe Gleason
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March 27, 2012, 03:19:23 PM »
Horses are not 'swamp animals' and have to eat so it's highly unlikely they were brought into Booth & Herold's hiding place. Soldiers weren't going to inspect every horse in Maryland to see if one had a blind eye. Much easier to have them graze in a field with other horses and hide them in plain sight.
That said, the saddles and bits did not have to follow them and could easily been disposed of in a number of ways. I think the killed in the swamp story was given to protect the sympathizer that was caring for the horses.
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March 27, 2012, 04:25:13 PM »
Good point Jerry.
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Marcus Lattimore was hobbled, and that definitely had an impact, but South Carolina had shown it was much more than just one player. At least it looked that way. Jeff Driskel threw four touchdown passes, doubling his career passing TD total.
We rescinded our apology for calling South Carolina overrated last week, but it needs to be done again. South Carolina is overrated. Terribly, terribly, overrated.
5. Georgia did what Georgia does. Winning over Kentucky by five points is not something to be proud of. Georgia had two weeks to sulk after its complete annihilation at the hands of South Carolina and basically overlooked Kentucky to get ready for Florida next week.
What almost happened would have rendered that game meaningless (more on this in a minute). Georgia (6-1, 4-1) apparently forgot it has one of the best running back duos in college football and ran for a paltry 77 yards against the Wildcats. Of course, Kentucky allowed 427 passing yards, so it wasn't really needed.
Except, of course, that it was. Kentucky (1-7, 0-5) did most of its damage on the ground, so if Georgia had put Todd Gurley and Keith Marshall into motion, it could have changed the tempo of the game and kept the Wildcats' offense off the field. "Gurshall" had better come out of hiding soon (say, next week against Florida?) or it won't be pretty for the Bulldogs.
6. Alabama will beat you any way you please. A lot of times we hear people say "don't let that guy beat you" or "make them beat you through the air" or similar comments when facing a tough team. Well, Alabama will do whatever you let them do and dominate you in the process.
Tennessee decided to put the game in A.J. McCarron's interception-averse hands and he responded with a career high in passing yards and tied a career high in touchdown passes in a 1,000-3 win. (Oh, it was only 44-13? Could've fooled us). Part of the reason why that happened was the Vols (3-4, 0-4) decided if they were to lose, McCarron would have to beat them. Had Tennessee covered Alabama's wide receivers, who knows what would have happened?
But that didn't happen. McCarron threw for 306 yards and four touchdowns and on only one of the touchdowns was a defender close enough to the receiver to make an impact. An analysis was sent out a few weeks ago breaking down how to beat Alabama (7-0, 4-0). Allow us to take a crack at that…
To beat the Tide, you have to out-Alabama them - don't give up on the run, throw short but effective passes, don't turn the ball over, force turnovers, don't commit penalties, run the ball well, don't drop passes, make tackles and capitalize on opportunities when they present themselves. Sound hard? That's because it is.
7. The World Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party still matters. It's unimaginable to think that the annual meeting between Georgia and Florida wouldn't have the SEC East crown on the line, but the Bulldogs almost let it happen by trying to lose to Kentucky.
If Georgia had lost, Florida would only have needed to beat Missouri on Nov. 3 to clinch the division. Now, the Gators need a win over Georgia to do it. And beating Georgia is all the Gators need to do. Georgia is alive as well, but the Bulldogs have to beat Florida and the rest of the SEC teams on their schedule.
Without even looking at who those teams are, it's doubtful Georgia will make it through. Somebody always pulls off a win over Georgia that shouldn't. Georgia's remaining SEC opponents are Ole Miss and Auburn, so maybe they could do it, after all.
They (not sure who "they" is in this context) don't want the game being called the "Cocktail Party" because everybody knows there's no drinking at a college football game. Ever. Not even one. They prefer the World's Largest Outdoor Party. That seems presumptuous, and removing "Cocktail" from the game's name takes away the only reason anyone ever has to go to Jacksonville.
8. Mississippi State could "out-Alabama" Alabama. Efficient passing, few mistakes, high turnover margin, consistent running game, crushing defense. That's what Alabama is, but it is also what Mississippi State is.
This year will be the first time since 1942 that these teams have both been undefeated when they met. Mississippi State would love to be the team to derail the Alabama freight train and earn some much-coveted respect in the process.
The Bulldogs (7-0, 3-0) haven't gotten much attention this year, except when they tripped over each other trying to run on the field. Alabama won't let them use any fog in Tuscaloosa this Saturday so that won't be a problem. Noise fog, however, will be a different story.
It's odd that this rivalry doesn't have a name so we're officially coining the term "Starkaloosa Footballapalooza." It's sure to catch on quickly. Or not.
9. Derek Dooley's hip isn't the only thing broken for Tennessee. One word: defense.
Tennessee was scared of the Alabama running game, and rightfully so, but not fearing the passing game proved to be pretty dumb. It should have already been known that Alabama was a good passing team, but what Tennessee showed was Alabama is capable of being a great passing team, especially when you don't cover the wide receivers.
Derek Dooley's hideous pants were not enough of a distraction to keep A.J. McCarron from out-Tyler Braying Tyler Bray. None of Alabama's passing touchdowns were contested, McCarron was rarely under pressure and the Tennessee secondary looked at times like it was surprised Alabama could actually pass.
Tyler Bray has been leading an explosive aerial attack this year, which you would think would mean Tennessee's defense has seen some passing plays in practice. Apparently not. Maybe that's why Tennessee throws so much. It sees its inept secondary in practice and gets an inflated opinion of its own self-worth.
Whatever the issue is, Alabama did what it's always done: walk in, take care of business and walk out.
10. Five teams will be seriously evaluating their coaching situations. Unless Derek Dooley's pants hypnotize Tennessee's athletic director, he'll be doing something other than coaching Tennessee next year (and not wearing those pants) and the Vols' porous defense and fear of tackling will be the primary reasons why.
Dooley is far from being alone, however. Arkansas is unlikely to keep John L. Smith, Kentucky will look for something better than a Joker (Phillips), Mark Richt has been a bad night's sleep away from being fired about four years and the only reason the $7 million-plus buyout Gene Chizik has keeps being mentioned is to make sure Auburn asks for the right amount of money from its boosters to cover it.
Odds are that at least one of these coaches will stick around (we think Richt) after the season. Coaches who will be looked at to replace them, among others, will probably be Bobby Petrino, Louisiana Tech's Sonny Dykes, Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart and former Auburn offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn.
The real question is who will be the first to be fired?
Our guess is Smith. No, Auburn won't even be able to win at that, either.
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Panasonic DMP-BDT210
Manufacturer: Panasonic Part number: DMP-BDT210
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- The Panasonic DMP-BDT210's built-in Wi-Fi, simple user interface, Amazon Instant streaming, and blazing fast disc-loading speeds make it our favorite Blu-ray player of 2011 so far.
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- Reviewed by: Matthew Moskovciak
- Edited by: John Falcone
- Reviewed on: 05/04/2011
- Released on: 03/15/2011
The good: The Panasonic DMP-BDT210 has built-in Wi-Fi, a simple user interface, and an excellent suite of streaming-media services, including Netflix, Amazon Instant, Vudu, Pandora, Skype, and CinemaNow. The DMP-BDT210 also has the fastest overall disc-loading speeds we've tested. And though its "touch-free" disc tray opener is a little gimmicky, we found it occasionally useful.
The bad: The Panasonic DMP-BDT210 has fewer overall streaming services than some competitors, missing some high-profile services like Hulu Plus and MLB.TV. It also lacks onboard memory for accessing BD-Live features.
The bottom line: The Panasonic DMP-BDT210's built-in Wi-Fi, simple user interface, Amazon Instant streaming, and blazing fast disc-loading speeds make it our favorite Blu-ray player of 2011 so far.
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Panasonic DMP-BDT210 could have been a good product
by markmi300 on April 15, 2011
Pros: Easy setup and good interface
Cons: Netflix streaming and Panasonic Tech Support
Summary: Since I do not own a 3D television, the feature on the Blu-Ray player was not a driving factor for me.
I bought the DMP-BDT210 from Best Buy for the ...
Summary: Since I do not own a 3D television, the feature on the Blu-Ray player was not a driving factor for me.Sorry if some folks don't agree with my review, but when I buy a product I expect ALL of the features to work and the manufacturer to take responsibility for their product. This is a heads up for anyone that DOES want to use the Netflix feature in conjunction with the Blu-Ray.
I bought the DMP-BDT210 from Best Buy for the Internet streaming options of Netflix and Amazon Video On Demand. I was very disappointed that I was forced to return this player and replace it with the Sony BDP-S580.
The reason I say disappointed is that (PROS) I liked the setup and feel that Panasonic has for its interface. The wireless setup automatically connected to my Wireless N instead of Wireless G using the WPS (Wi-Fi Protected Setup). The DLNA services worked without issue.
The problems (CONS) are with the Netflix streaming. Panasonic uses the login/password method for you to connect to Netflix instead of the activate code used with other products. Once you input your credentials, you are presented with a very nice layout of your Instant Queue, Recently Watched and Recommended. Unfortunately, YOU CANNOT WATCH THEM! When you choose ANY movie/TV show, you get the message "We're having trouble playing this title right now. Please try again later or select a different title."
When I contacted Netflix about it, I was informed that this is a known issue with the T210 and they gave me Panasonic's Support phone number. Netflix also told me to ask for 2nd level support as first level would not be able to actually do anything to fix the problem. Long story short, Panasonic DID NOT HELP with the issue. Their response was that Panasonic is aware of the problem. I was told that someone from 2nd level support would contact me within 24-48 hours. A week and a half later I still had not heard from tech support. I did some Google searches and discovered that this has been a problem since early March 2011. This is now the middle of April!!
As of this writing the latest firmware update is 1.56 and does not resolve the issue.
Now here is the kicker. It appears that this problem is a hit-or-miss. SomeT210's work perfectly while others do not. Something is different on the player other than the firmware/Software. I tried with two different BDT210's from two different Best Buy stores and had the same error with Netflix. I exchanged the Panasonic for the SAMSUNG BD-D6500 and was able to stream Netflix, but it would occasionally freeze. The player also would freeze on the Twitter App. I exchanged the Samsung for the SONY BDP-S580. Sony uses its own custom interface for the internet apps and the Netflix one is not as sophisticated as the Panasonic or the Samsung. Actually Sony's is subpar compared to the competition, but it works. The other (semi-bad) thing about the Sony is that they did not integrate a high end Wireless card in the hardware. The player will not connect to a Wireless N network unless you are broadcasting at the lower 2.4 GHz range. 5.0 GHz will not even show up when scanning for networks. Both the Samsung and the Sony connected to the 5.0 range.
My feelings on the Panasonic: It could have been a very good product. I might have been willing to wait a bit longer for a fix if the Panasonic Tech Support would have been more straight forward about the problem AND had at least responded to me in the 24 to 48 hour time frame that they committed to. I work in a tech support environment and a nonchalant answer and no follow up with the customer would be un-acceptable at my company.
So if you're thinking of getting the Panasonic DMP-BDT210 for Netflix streaming, check on the Panasonic site to see if they have a newer firmware version than 1.56. Also call Netflix to see if the problem is still being reported. Good luck.
Updated on Apr 20, 2011
24 out of 28 users found this user opinion helpful.
Don't buy this if you want to use Netflix!
by elgreco62 on May 6, 2011
Pros: Cool controls on the front. Nice remote
Cons: Netflix doesn't work! Panasonic has been aware for months and still has not fixed it
Summary: Stay away from this unit if you are buying it for Netflix use. There are known bugs that Panasonic is aware but as of yet they have not fixed them....
Summary: Stay away from this unit if you are buying it for Netflix use. There are known bugs that Panasonic is aware but as of yet they have not fixed them.
It is amazing to me that the CNET crew continues to rate items high just on features. All you have to do is 5 min of research to see that this thing is not worth the money due to its problems. Is CNET taking payola from Pana guys???? Only my opinion here...not fact!
10 out of 13 users found this user opinion helpful.
by jye4ever on April 22, 2011
Pros: Easy Set Up!
Easy To Use (even easier and quicker than my PS3)!!
Wi-Fi works great!!!
Netflix, Vudu, Amazon, You Tube, Cinema Now all worked as advertised!!!!
Free 3D Avatar Disk!!!!!
2D/3D Bluray looks great!!!!!!
Cons: None, that is correct, none!
Summary: Hands down one very awesome 3D/Internet Ready/Wi-Fi Blu-ray player, especially at $170.00!Forget to mention, out of the box it downloaded the ...
Updated on Apr 22, 2011
Summary: Hands down one very awesome 3D/Internet Ready/Wi-Fi Blu-ray player, especially at $170.00!Forget to mention, out of the box it downloaded the latest 1.59 firmware. Since I didn't use this before 1.59 I don't know if it had previous problems but like I said in my review, it's working flawlessly, yes, eve Netflix and NO, I don't work for Panasonic.
Updated on Apr 22, 2011
6 out of 6 users found this user opinion helpful.
Blazing Load Speed - Great Features
by WildClay on May 5, 2011
Pros: Fast Disc load speed, Fast Menu's, Solid selection of streaming services, Easy Navigation, Very Flexible config option, Easy Wireless or Wired set-up (tried both), DLNA that works, nice form factor.
My 210 was out of the box and playing in 15 minutes,
Cons: Menu speed while navigating streaming services is a little slow but not bad and I think maybe a function of the services. USB keyboard support would have been nice.
Summary: In Summary, the price/perforamance is about as good as it gets, the 210 has got a great feature set, but most important, at least to me, was the disc ...
Summary: In Summary, the price/perforamance is about as good as it gets, the 210 has got a great feature set, but most important, at least to me, was the disc load speed, I don't think twice about flipping through a few discs on this where on my BD-80 it was just not practical.
Hard to go wrong with this.
5 out of 5 users found this user opinion helpful.
Great product if only the Netflix worked.
by cocarb on May 5, 2011
Pros: BluRay Picture, Easy of Wifi Setup
Cons: Panasonic Customer Support and Netflix Streaming
Summary: Bought this player for 2 reasons, watch BR movies and stream Netflix. I too am having the Netflix issue, the interface looks nice but many of us (based upon feedback ...
Summary: Bought this player for 2 reasons, watch BR movies and stream Netflix. I too am having the Netflix issue, the interface looks nice but many of us (based upon feedback from AVS Forum) can't watch a single stream from Netflix. I tried via wifi and hard line with no luck. First line customer support acts like it is a new problem every time you call. After 3 calls got a message to call Nick in customer service, after 25 minutes on hold was told that the engineers in Japan were working on the issue. When I said he could have left that on the message instead of having me wait on hold to tell me that, he hung up on me. The common answer for every call is we will have more information tomorrow, like they are close to a solution, that was a month ago.Now that the Netflix issues have been solved am very happy with the player. Would improve my rating to 5 stars.
Updated on Oct 6, 2011
6 out of 8 users found this user opinion helpful.
Great quality and ease of use, but no Netflix.
by baconaiken on May 14, 2011
Pros: Ease of use and setup, Good streaming and Disc video quality, many Internet options.
Cons: No Netflix yet and some limits on file formats for USB connections.
Summary: This is an excellent all around consumer problem with one flaw. The company needs to be more honest about its problem with the Netflix connection issue and quit wasting people'...
Summary: This is an excellent all around consumer problem with one flaw. The company needs to be more honest about its problem with the Netflix connection issue and quit wasting people's time trying to fix something that can't be fixed. Netflix is just one of many uses of the machine and can be replaced on another device that is likely owned by many owners of blu-ray players. Panasonic should honor its warranty and replace devices that do not work or remove Netflix from its Vericast options.
3 out of 4 users found this user opinion helpful.
So far so good
by MikegReview on August 29, 2011
Pros: Everything works great for me
Cons: Nothing so far
Summary: I bought this Blui ray player after reading reviews and this being named the top blu ray player so far of 2011 in August. I dont have a 3D TV ...
Summary: I bought this Blui ray player after reading reviews and this being named the top blu ray player so far of 2011 in August. I dont have a 3D TV but nice to know if i did i have a blu ray player for it.
I have to say it is a huge change from my old LG blu ray. This thing loads very fast, connects to wifi fast, and has stayed connected. I havent had a problem with Netflix at all. I have used it for several hours everyday for the past 2 weeks, Things are looking good on this Blu ray, i did have a firmware update upon connecting to wifi, so if you get it make sure you update.
Oh i was worried about the hand scan just randomly opening while watching a movie. It doesn't you kinda have to go slow across the top to make it open.
2 out of 2 users found this user opinion helpful.
Everything is outstanding, INCLUDING NETFLIX
by msecour on August 4, 2011
Pros: Excellent picture quality with BD and upconverted DVDs, easy wireless set-up, slim design, fast load
Cons: Remote would benefit from being a bit larger (less crowded).
Summary: I installed this player on August 1, 3 days ago. Set-up was very easy; I didn't consult the User Manual at all. After connecting to my home network Wi-fi ...
Summary: I installed this player on August 1, 3 days ago. Set-up was very easy; I didn't consult the User Manual at all. After connecting to my home network Wi-fi the firmware was updated to 1.68. I'll admit that I have not been a subscriber to Netflix but out of curiosity (due to negative reviews on this site) I initiated a trial membership. I was delighted to find out that Netflix streaming videos offer English sub-titles on many titles, or at least those that I looked up. I am hard of hearing and depend upon captions and subtitles. I have watched two movies on Netflix so far with nary a glitch or hiccup. This is my first streaming video experience not using a computer and I am impressed. As for the more important functions -- playing Blu-rays and DVDs, this machine is beautiful. It is my second Blu-ray player. My first one-- a Sony 350 that is nearly 3 years old -- now does duty with our second (smaller) HDTV. The Sony takes 20 seconds just to open the tray to receive a disk and much more time to load a Blu-ray. By comparison the Panasonic is blazing fast. What a difference.
I must also admit that I was hesitant to get this player at first because of some of the scathing reviews on this site, but I was also curious as to why user reviews at other sites gave it much more positive ratings. I finally decided not to trust the negative reviews here because some were so critical of CNET itself. (Really? Blame CNET because their reviewer got the machine to work and you couldn't?) I did buy mine from a merchant with a good return policy, but it is clear that I won't need to return this.
The one problem I did have was in the clash of remotes. I have a Panasonic DVD recorder in my home theater and suddenly both Panasonics were responding to each other's remotes. Had I bothered to read the user manual earlier I would have learned that it is easy to reset the remote code on one or the other so that they will work independently. Once I looked this up I reset the remote code on the 210 and both machines are happy.
I certainly have no doubts that some people have had legitimate problems getting Netlfix to work. I can't answer to what may have been causing their problems. I would guess firmware except that the CNET reviewer did not have any Netflix problems with the older firmware. I can tell you that my Panasonic is working perfectly.
2 out of 2 users found this user opinion helpful.
Best Blu-ray player I ever owned!
by glpatnode on June 10, 2011
Pros: Slim design, fast loading, easy setup and does everything right
Cons: The remote could bave been lighted, the buttons are hard to see, very close together
Summary: I have owned 3 Panasonic Blu-ray players since the Blu-ray has been out, the BD10, BD35 and BD60 and this one is many levels up from the the rest. Never ...
Summary: I have owned 3 Panasonic Blu-ray players since the Blu-ray has been out, the BD10, BD35 and BD60 and this one is many levels up from the the rest. Never has playing a Blu-ray Disc been so quick and easy and accessing the Netflix and other on line services been so quick and effortless. This slim player fits almost anywhere unless you want to place it so you can wave your hand to open and close the disc tray, give it a little more space. The player is glossy black with very little other design elements, but you really don't need that in a player, just make it easy to operate, load BDs fast and access the services you want quickly-this player does this effortlessly. My other Panasonics BD players are still going strong(sold them to family and friends), I just had to upgrade to this one, then I got two for both HDTVs, this brand holds up well,too.
2 out of 2 users found this user opinion helpful.
CNET Reviews - Are they worth anything any more?
by gundlachda on May 24, 2011
Pros: Thanks to the honest and accurate feedback of customers, I have avoided buying this system with its continuing issues over Netflix Streaming. Pay attention to the customer.
Cons: CNET Review
Summary: Over the last couple of years I have noticed a disturbing trend at CNET - a diminishing amount of integrity, accuracy, and thoroughness in its product reviews. The recent review ...
Summary: Over the last couple of years I have noticed a disturbing trend at CNET - a diminishing amount of integrity, accuracy, and thoroughness in its product reviews. The recent review of the Panasonic DMP-BDT210 (reviewed by Matthew Moskovciak and edited by John P. Falcone) provides an excellent example. This was a product of which I had great interest, and I was heartened by Matt's 4 stars and Editor's Choice. Then I began to read the customer reviews and noticed a large number of comments regarding this product's failure with Netflix. I understand this is just one aspect of this product, and it should not color the whole review; however, the customer expects all aspects of the product to function right down to the indicator light. The Netflix issue was not mentioned in Matt's review. Even if this was not an issue during his review, shouldn't professional integrity force have forced CNET to amend the review, address the issue, and champion the cause for the consumer forcing Panasonic to address the problem. This is what I originally expected and got from CNET.
CNET used to be my first and last internet source to research and compare products. I needed no other. Now, I find the user reviews to be more on point and more accurate than the professional reviewers at CNET. I am forced to double check CNET reviews with other competing sites. What has happened??
4 out of 7 users found this user opinion helpful.
- Manufacturer: Panasonic
- Part number: DMP-BDT210
- Description: Step into the 3D world. Watch 3D movies at home with Full HD 3D technology with the DMP-BDT210.
- Component type Blu-ray player
- 3D technology Yes
- Form factor Tabletop
- Dimensions (WxDxH) 16.9 in x 7 in x 1.5 in
- Weight 3.5 lbs
Network & Internet Multimedia
- Connectivity Built-in Wi-Fi
- Internet Streaming Services VieraCast ,
Netflix ,
Amazon VOD ,
YouTube ,
Pandora ,
Twitter ,
- Home Network Media Sharing DLNA
- Media Type DVD+R DL,
- Media format NTSC
- BD profiles Profile 2.0 (BD-Live)
- Audio D/A Converter 24bit / 192kHz
- Built-in Audio Decoders DTS-HD Master Audio Essential,
Dolby TrueHD,
Dolby Digital Plus,
DTS-HD High Resolution
- Media Load Type Tray
- Upscaling Yes
- Supported Digital Video Standards AVCHD,
DivX HD,
- Supported Digital Audio Standards MP3
Blu-ray Features
- Additional features Skype capable with separate USB TV camera (sold separately) ,
Touch-free sensor to open and close the disc tray ,
2D-to-3D conversion video processing ,
iPhone/Android phone app
Audio System
- Sound Output Mode Stereo
- Dynamic Range 100 dB
- Digital Audio Format DTS-HD Master Audio output,
DTS-HD digital output,
Dolby True HD digital output,
Dolby Digital Plus output
- Signal-To-Noise Ratio 100 dB
- Additional Features Upgradeable firmware
- Connector type HDMI output ( 19 pin HDMI Type A ),
1 x USB 2.0 ( 4 pin USB Type A ) - Front,
1 x USB 2.0 ( 4 pin USB Type A ) - Rear,
Audio line-out ( RCA phono x 2 ),
Ethernet ( RJ-45 ),
Digital audio output (optical) ( TOSLINK )
- Card type/Qty 1 x SD Memory Card
Remote Control
- Type Remote control - Infrared
- Power Device Power supply - Internal
- Power AC 120 V
- Power Consumption Operational 9.9 Watt
- Power Consumption Stand by / Sleep 0.1 Watt
Manufacturer info
- Manufacturer profile
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- Manufacturer:Panasonic
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One Panasonic Way, Secaucus, NJ 07094
- Phone: 800/662-3537


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Absolutely not. Freeman might have put up decent numbers in his first 3.5 years...but he always plays bad against a good defensive team and can't seem to get over the hump when facing a quality opponent. He has what it takes to put up decent stats, but I'm not sure if he has that "it' to carry this team to a postseason, let alone, a SB.Don't give him anything until his contract is up. If he plays well next season, and he is worth retaining, then you tag him and work out a deal."He has earned it"Lol. He has not earned sh*t. That makes me laugh.
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How is this team getting to the Super Bowl? If it's by defense, then even Dilfer is a good enough QB. If it's by offense, is Freeman good enough to carry us there? I'm certainly not convinced.Anybody think our defense is up to it? Welcome to Spinningourwheelsville.
He has not earned sh*t. That makes me laugh.
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Impacts of large asteroids on Earth are rare. Asteroids the size of Friday's would cause only localized damage. The orbits of larger objects are better known, and so imminent danger of mass extinction is low. It is unlikely that astronomers will soon discover a "potentially hazardous asteroid" (PHA) high on what astronomers have dubbed the Torino scale. Still, NASA is not doing nearly enough to prepare for that unlikely eventuality.
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I like the canned whole cranberry sauce just like everyone else, but, for Thanksgiving, why not go the extra quarter mile and make it fresh.
It's really easy! And hard to go back to the canned product after making this just one time.
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2 navel oranges
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1 - 8 oz. can crushed pineapple (do not drain)
1 cup sugar
1 tsp. vanilla extract
Rinse the oranges and using a grater, grate the orange part of the peel of both oranges. Set grated peel aside. Cut the oranges in half and squeeze out enough juice to make ½ cup.
In a food processor, coarsely chop cranberries. Add pineapple (with the juice), ¾ cup of the sugar, and the orange juice to the cranberry mix. Pulse about 7 times to mix and chop – don't make it too mushy.
Pour into saucepan and add remaining ¼ cup sugar. Heat over medium heat stirring occasionally for 20-30 minutes until thickened. Remove from heat and let cool. Add the vanilla and the orange zest. Refrigerate.
You can make this up to three days ahead of your event.
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The lagoon-side cabins of the Robert Reimer hotel.
A charming mid-price hotel on the lagoon and near downtown. The restaurant and bar are a favorite spo...
Just as you always imagined that a lagoon would look like!
A typical view of Majuro main street, which runs from end to end on the island, a total of around 40km.
Unfortunately, the beauty of much of the shoreline is spoilt by its previous use as a rubbish dump.
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The best hotel on Majuro, with a delightful view of the lagoon.
Another panorama on the main road from downtown to the airport.
The Marshall Islands form a ring of land only a few feet above sea level, way out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. They're located near the Equator and the International Date Line.
They take their name from the British captain William Marshall, who sailed through the region transporting convicts to Australia. Archaeological evidence puts the first human activity earlier than 2000 B.C. The first European contact came in the sixteenth century, when a Spanish explorer landed here while looking for an alternate route to the "spice islands." In 1857 an American missionary created an outpost here and soon after that, a German trading company took up residence.
The German government annexed the islands in 1885, purchasing them from Spain. They established a protectorate over the islands which lasted until 1914 when they were captured by Japan. Japan retained control of them until the Allied invasion of 1943, after which they became American territory. After WWII the United States military used the Marshall Islands for testing nuclear weapons. In 1954 they ignited the largest hydrogen bomb they'd ever built, doing it at a place called Bikini Atoll.
This is where the Bikini swimsuit comes from. Only a few days after the test, when the name "Bikini Atoll" was all over the news, the bikini swimsuit was announced on the market in what appears to be a clever public opinion maneuver.
Besides the bikini, there's another pop icon that came from the Marshall Islands. In response to the radioactive fallout created by the nuclear tests, Japanese film-makers made a movie about a terrible monster awakened by nuclear explosions. The monster tries to destroy the world and nearly gets away with it except for the life-saving ingenuity of the Japanese scientists. That's right, Godzilla.
The Republic of the Marshall Islands became a sovereign self-governing nation in 1979. It's one of the most intriguing places in the world for scuba divers, due to its coral reefs and graveyard of sunken naval warships. Like the Polynesian islands, it's also a natural treasure-trove of stunning beauty.
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