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Have a health-related problem? They have a pill for that.
In the modern world, medication is frequently seen as the answer for what ails you. But a new study appears to confirm what is really little more than common sense.
Proper diet and exercise can be very useful in dealing with a variety of human illnesses, in some cases proving just as helpful as drugs when dealing with health problems.
A report published by the British Medical Journal touted the benefits of exercise by stating that there was no statistical difference in results between test subjects who used exercise or drug treatments after suffering coronary disease or pre-diabetes.
Basically, the outcomes among the test subjects were the same, whether they opted for lifestyle changes or medications to deal with their conditions. The conclusion of the researchers was that physicians should stress the health benefits of proper diet and exercise — which we would hope they already do.
We're not sure this research breaks any new ground. There is a litany of medical research indicating there are meaningful health benefits found in healthy lifestyles. This doesn't mean people should be training for marathons or counting every calorie. But keeping active has been shown to reduce heart disease risks, high blood pressure and the impact of arthritis, among other things.
There's no secret to any of this. Yet data constantly suggests Americans don't get enough exercise, and obesity is literally a growing problem. So why aren't people taking better care of themselves?
The main answer, we suppose, is that people like to eat, and exercise takes time and effort. And a culture that prizes instant gratification will opt to reach for medication because it can work quickly to address a problem with minimal effort.
Perhaps this latest study, showing no real difference between exercise and medication, will be used to justify further drug taking along with exercise avoidance. After all, why not take the easy way out?
But prescription medications come with a variety of side effects. They also come at a financial cost and don't necessarily provide the range of health benefits produced by regular exercise. A particular drug may be helping your high blood pressure, while it does nothing for the plaque growing in your coronary arteries.
The message here is that simple advocacy for a sound diet and prudent exercise isn't enough. A wise society and its institutions will work to convey the message to individuals that it is in their long-term benefit to pursue proper fitness decisions as part of a healthy lifestyle choice.
Yes, the drugs will be there. But when feasible, the better option is to see that they aren't needed.
Open the Vatican's scandal-prone bank
(The Mankato Free Press / Mankato, Minn.)
It might be the ideal environment for a financial scandal: Millions of dollars in assets, a hands-off top authority with higher priorities and little background in finance, a culture of secrecy.
And thus it has been over the years with the Institute for Religious Works, the Vatican bank.
One of the mandates Pope Francis received when he ascended to the papacy was to clean up the increasingly corrupt Vatican bureaucracy, and the bank was high on the list of problems.
A milestone of sorts was reached this week when the bank, for the first time in its 71-year history, published its financial statements. The documents revealed net earnings in 2012 of nearly $117 million, with more than half that sum going to the pope for his charitable works.
The bank also said it won't do nearly as well this year, in no small part because of the expense of establishing the financial controls the rest of the world expects of a major bank.
The bank and its managers have been a recurring embarrassment for the Vatican for decades, with major scandals erupting in the 1970s and 1980s and a sensational arrest this summer amid a lengthy investigation into money laundering at the bank.
A priest-accountant at the bank, Monsignor Nunzio Scarano, was arrested in June in an alleged plot to bring 20 million euros into Italy from Switzerland without declaring it at customs. He is one of at least three Institute officials currently being investigated by Italian prosecutors for money laundering.
Matters have reached the point where Francis, declaring that "St. Paul didn't have a bank account," has hinted that he might dissolve the bank completely if he can't find a way to clean it up.
To that end, he created a commission of inquiry with wide-ranging authority, and named a trusted prelate, Battista Ricca, to monitor the bank's operations. Ricca was almost immediately targeted with gay slurs in an apparent attempt to undermine his credibility — an attack that may have had a role in the pope's famous line about gay priests, "Who am I to judge?"
Shutting the bank, if it comes to that, may be an extreme measure, but Francis appears to recognize the inherent fallacy of such a major institution of faith and morality sitting atop a foundation of greed and corruption. Not merely the church faithful, but the world, expects better of the Vatican.


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Chip Collins, Polk County, senior: All-conference runner had a person-best time of 17:06 to win the boys race at the NCRunners Cross Country Carnival in October. He finished fourth at conference, seventh at regionals and 25th at the 2-A state meet.
Jacob Collins, Polk County, junior: All-conference runner had a personal best time of 17:03 in the 2-A state championship meet, placing 24th. He was third in the conference meet and 14th at regionals.
Tommy Connell, Brevard, senior: Last year's Times-News Boys Cross Country runner of the Year had a personal best time of 16:37.41 in the 2-A state championship to finish eighth. He was also fourth at regionals and second in the WNC Athletic Conference meet to East Henderson's Tanis Baldwin.
Chase Savage, East Henderson, senior: He just missed earning all-conference honors, placing 11th at the WNC Athletic Conference meet. He ended up 30th at regionals and capped off his high school cross country career with a personal-best time of 17:13 at the 3-A state meet, placing 57th.
Logan Sewell, East Henderson, junior: The West Henderson transfer has a personal-best time of 16:55. He ended up in 10th spot at the conference meet to earn all-conference honors, and he finished 16th at regionals.
Grant Smith, East Henderson, senior: East's team captain helped his team to a sixth-place finish at the 3-A state meet this year with a personal-best time of 16:43, which was good enough for 31st place individually. He also earned all-conference honors, placing fifth at the conference meet.
Zach Standley, East Henderson, senior: Consistently a top-five runner on the team, Standley closed out his cross country prep career with a personal-best time of 17:41 at the 3-A state meet, placing 83rd.

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westex74 Feb 7, 2013 at 2:33 pm
Not terribly surprising. I wouldn't think Microsoft would spend too much effort making apps for the company they will be in fierce competition with for the third platform. We should be happy that Skype for Blackberry exists in any form.
If the Android port is solid, then I think it is a great addition to BB10. MS had to put at least some effort into this as BB has the ability to freeze their devices out of the secure corporate environment. I still believe that BB is building a cross platform BBM-like app that that will provide them an additional revenue stream.
Whitecaps Feb 7, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Then why didnt RIM just go with Android OS in the first place? It wouldve prevented the release delays and the phones will be selling like hot cakes!!!
Skeevecr Feb 7, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Nobody is making any money out of android if there name isn't samsung, google or microsoft.
Samsung,Google yes..
Ms.. Only pennies...
Refer to the WebKit Browser...
MS, Apple, Google... BB mastered that area...
Look at the HTML5 Compat...
r0v3rT3N Feb 7, 2013 at 3:53 pm
No they wouldn't, first of all, all of the Android manufacturers EXCEPT Samsung are falling hard.
Why would BlackBerry want to join them?
BruvvaPete2 Feb 7, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Go to Android OS? Do you not get the point of what QNX actually is?
cjterminator Feb 7, 2013 at 4:21 pm
I have seen quite a few apps which started as Android port but after getting popularity came up with native app which obviously looked much greater (like Flow Pie, Tomb Escape, etc).
Though I have to say that current Android apps made professionally do run quite well and sometimes you do not even notice that they are running in Android player.
So let's see the final implementation. In any case we will have native OoVoo client which is multi platform and can support upto 12 persons conference.
The software that BlackBerry has on their Z10 is SOLID.
Big deal about a few stupid apps.
I need a good user experience.
advil_yum Feb 7, 2013 at 4:06 pm
If QNX didn't happen (I'm glad it did), I think they could have used Android. And I think if Android was customized, they surely could have integrated BBM and their security features as exclusive options which would have differentiated themselves from the pack. Perhaps even utilized BIS/compression somehow. If that combo (Android with BBM/Security/BIS) hit early enough, I bet they would be bigger than Sammy right now.
It's an interesting thought.
Anyway, a Skype port is good enough for now. As long as it works well, it'll keep the pundits quiet for a while. Perhaps they will develop a native version in time, or be allowed to integrate it into the OS.
If you want a customized Android, go buy a Kindle...
Just sayin...
Long live BB!!!!
jinxednuance Feb 7, 2013 at 6:13 pm
Really? Just because they're porting Skype, you want to let go of everything else and use a crappy buggy OS such as Android?! That OS is the worst.
KarlosSpicyWienr Feb 7, 2013 at 7:58 pm
The folks at BlackBerry are pretty smart. They DID go with android, they just made everybody think they didn't. Blackberry 10 is nothing more than android 2.x with an amazing skin from TAT, powered by the most powerful kernal, QNX. Well done BlackBerry, well done.
Glad to see Android is running nuclear power plants...
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Whitecaps Feb 8, 2013 at 4:27 am
So will there be viruses?
Tariq.H Feb 8, 2013 at 9:41 am
Biggest bull I've ever read.
You do realise that in most environments where BlackBerry Enterprise Server / BlackBerry Enterprise Service is deployed there is usually a Microsoft Exchange Server as well, right? Plus BlackBerry Enterprise Server / BlackBerry Enterprise Service run only on Microsoft Windows Server / Microsoft Windows Small Business Server. For BlackBerry to allow Microsoft to simply port the existing Google Android version of Skype to the BlackBerry OS 10 devices is sheer lunacy. BlackBerry risks the instability of Google Android bringing down the house.
POView Feb 7, 2013 at 10:13 pm
rich BBM features perferred over sk-hype
Prince Radebe Feb 7, 2013 at 2:35 pm
They must launch it before Z10 comes to South Africa. My wallet is itching...
jayemmbee Feb 7, 2013 at 2:36 pm
Better than. Nothing. Something tells me this has to do with BlackBerry updating the android emulator runtime to jellybean
xtremesniper Feb 7, 2013 at 3:47 pm
That's probably the only legitimate reason as to why Skype hasn't launched yet, considering how fast Android apps can be ported to BB10.
My only concern would be that Skype is traditionally a fairly CPU heavy program during video calls. I only hope that the Android runtime is really efficient, otherwise say goodbye to your battery.
bradley_b Feb 7, 2013 at 9:19 pm
It's not an emulator
birdman_38 Feb 8, 2013 at 10:31 am
I have a bad feeling about this. We'll see how well it works out. Expect 3 stars or less in BlackBerry World reviews for this app. Mark my words.
Balti43 Feb 7, 2013 at 2:37 pm
Will Instagram be one too? :o
Great question, will be IG available i dont care if is native or not ...??
thats why ppl are changing from BB to Android or Apple just because its apps facility... RIM/BLACKBERRY didnt hear that part! UGH!!!
Tariq.H Feb 8, 2013 at 9:43 am
They are the first platform to LAUNCH with 70 000 apps si I think they DID hear it!
BarracudaBob Feb 7, 2013 at 2:38 pm
It's a little disappointing that it won't be native, but at least it is coming. I hope this includes voice and video too. I am curious to know if it will integrate with the Hub as well.
koolrosh Feb 7, 2013 at 3:20 pm
I Find that Android Apps run really well on BB10. On my Playbook they used to freeze up quite a bit, but on my Z10 they are fast and snappy.
hen PlayBook get BB10 ..... we will then be living in a perfect world! BlackBerry will sell so much stuff .... everyone will be talking about it.
POView Feb 7, 2013 at 10:14 pm
MSFT is a specialist at "water in the wine"
Berry-cracked-up Feb 7, 2013 at 2:40 pm
If it is an Android port, I would think it would be a fairly quick turnaround to get it on the BB10. I'm no developer by any stretch of the imagination, but I've read so many articles abot how quick and easy it is to port your android app to BB10. I'm sure both sides are working to insure it works great on BB10, but I don't see this being a 'many months' kind of timeline. I'm thinking maybe next week or 2? I would imagine that work has been ongoing since or even before the announcement on the 30th. I really can't see this taking forever to get out. Unless Microsoft purposely delays things, just to make BB look bad. Wouldn't surprise me.
I would preffer native Skype but realistically Skype is about video chat and as long as that works well then Android port is fine. I would deffinetelly not settle for Android ports of Facebook, Twitter and other apps that have more features than Skype.
MidnightWatcher Feb 7, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Is it really a port, though? Seems like some of the code will need to be BB10 specific. At any rate, as long as it is ported well and runs well, then that's what matters the most.
digitalman101 Feb 7, 2013 at 2:44 pm
BB, bring BBM as a cross platform. Or at least, to the desktop environment .
Why do they focus as being a droid port.
jinxednuance Feb 7, 2013 at 3:12 pm
I agree, that would be fantastic!
Fnen90 Mar 16, 2013 at 7:34 am
That way other users platform will need to download BBM to Video/Chat us :). BBM wont be unique anymore though...like iOS...Facetime and i think thats not a plus.
bmantz65 Feb 7, 2013 at 2:41 pm
After reading this information, there is no reason why Netflix can't come over now. "Just port your Android app, Skype is doing it. We will help you!" At least, that is what I hope BlackBerry is saying..
trueredsoxfan_58 Feb 7, 2013 at 8:59 pm
there is Netflix requires Microsoft DRM support. (PBOS and BB10 support this in natie sdk. not sure about android runtime
leafs123 Feb 7, 2013 at 2:44 pm
It's a start at least. Have to say that Skype has been very poor lately, thus it is not as a big of deal. for me I prefer BBM chat over Skype.
godsend85 Feb 7, 2013 at 2:44 pm
I don't get this. I thought Skype is using native video encoding library which won't work on bb10 "as is". So they are writing another version of Skype android which can be ported to bb10?
Telanis Feb 7, 2013 at 2:48 pm
More than likely they're simply tweaking the existing Android code to interface with a BB10 video encoding library. Relatively minor.
bradley_b Feb 7, 2013 at 9:21 pm
Nope :)
bkupris Feb 7, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Great, who cares as long as it works. I find this whole android port/vs native app storm in a tea cup business a bit boring. Just saying...
cinder0008 Feb 7, 2013 at 2:47 pm
Will this change its "sideloadability" to the PB?
harshalbid271 Feb 7, 2013 at 3:03 pm
It might. But then maybe they will make it available for PlayBook as well.
Keep IT Moving Feb 7, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Seems like just a matter of time to me, as when Skype gets to BB10 - it's only a matter of how long before PB gets BB10 later this year?
You think they would roll-out Skype for PB before PB gets BB10?
QuIcKsIlV3r Feb 7, 2013 at 2:46 pm
they were working with trying to get it native, not sure what the deal is, my friend has a skype app integrated into BB10 like FB and twitter.
So unless something couldn't be coded properly, I guess this is the way it goes.
And for the "ported app" haters, unlike the PlayBook, Android app ports run very smoothly and efficiently on the Z10, most of the time, you wouldn't even realize you are using a port
Telanis Feb 7, 2013 at 2:50 pm
That's exactly the thing. Android apps are not native code to begin with, there's nothing special about Google's runtime that means BB10's runtime won't be as good.
BB_Bmore Feb 7, 2013 at 8:34 pm
This is the same as the PlayBook. The runtime hasn't changed in BlackBerry10 from PlayBook 2.1
bradley_b Feb 7, 2013 at 9:05 pm
It has, by a mile. There are plenty of stability / performance fixes, even though it's still Gingerbread.
greatwiseone Feb 7, 2013 at 9:18 pm
Yes, the Android runtime still only supports Gingerbread, but it is SIGNIFICANTLY better than the one on the PlayBook. They've done a LOT of work on making the Android player awesome.
bradley_b Feb 7, 2013 at 9:22 pm
Thanks :)
MozThaGreat Feb 7, 2013 at 2:47 pm
So how good/bad will the video chat be???
BB_Bmore Feb 7, 2013 at 2:49 pm
This is great news now onto the most important question. Since its an Android port,WILL THE BAR WORK ON A PLAYBOOK 2.1??????? PLEASE SAY YES!!!
bradley_b Feb 7, 2013 at 9:05 pm
It will not work on 2.1
trueredsoxfan_58 Feb 7, 2013 at 2:49 pm
droid ports are fine. All they need is to strip all the code that is not needed out of the app to make it run better. Coding can always be optimized more
Kevin Michaluk Feb 7, 2013 at 2:52 pm
As long as it works well, I don't care how it's built. I NEED SKYPE. But it better work well.
That said, native is still where it's at.
k8bushlover Feb 8, 2013 at 12:28 pm
What penetrating analysis you offer. It is 'weak' in what ways, specifically?
Apparently, you've got your hands on a pre-release version, that you can already judge it as being 'weak' so please fill the rest of us in.
thecsman Feb 7, 2013 at 2:58 pm
It's an Android port, OMG RIM IS DEAD! /s/
katiepea Feb 7, 2013 at 2:59 pm
This will likely be the case with almost all apps for bb10 for quite some time. until bb10 is established and has a genuine userbase, it's not economical to spend time developing native apps for it. companies do not do this until the demand is there.
Aleksandr Trubach Feb 7, 2013 at 3:00 pm
no no no no.
This phone won't sell if it won't have NATIVE apps that could compete with others!!!
I'm tired to answer "i don't have that, it will come soon to blackberry.
Come on!!!! what's the f*cking point to spend 490£ on a great looking phone if it's can't even compete with other phones.
I'm really tired to hold with blackberry, just won't take another disappointment
There are a lot of apps in App World that are actually Android ports. When they are done by the actual developer and well designed, they run perfectly; and sometimes you don't even notice they are ports.
preciousmetal Feb 7, 2013 at 3:32 pm
Take 5 minutes and read the permissions you are granting most apps and you probably won't want to load them.
BruvvaPete2 Feb 7, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Just move on to a different platform. I'm tired of people crying and complaining of what's not yet on the platform. No other platform was ever launched with 70,000 apps (and this is just the beginning). Quit bellyaching.
Thank you!
Fnen90 Mar 16, 2013 at 7:38 am
CAn u find the 70k on BB App World?
cjterminator Feb 7, 2013 at 6:17 pm
We have OoVoo and Face Flow native in BB10 (for cross platform) in addition to awesome BBM video for BB<->BB. BBRY is work hard to get all the developers. Actually its achievement to get the direct competitor's product Skype in any form on BB10 (I read comment by Lucas on N4BB.COM that he tried this port and it is awesome, even the prompts have been tweaked to look more like BB10, so its more than a mere port).
Hope this also works for the PlayBook
I don't really care how they get it done, as long as they get it done.
I'm intrigued that Skype didn't take up the offer Alec made some time ago about sending (formerly RIM, now...) BlackBerry in-house developers there to make a native app for them.
It would seem logical for BlackBerry to do that for an app which is apparently so important to so many people.
BBPandy Feb 7, 2013 at 3:31 pm
Because M$ doesn't want to support to competition. There is no reason for a port not to have been ready by launch, & yet here we are, a week after launch & still no Skype. With Alec's offer, Skype could have been on BB10 without ANY cost to M$, but that's not exactly what they want. They have to bring it to BB because there are a lot of their users demanding it...but they will do what they can to make it reflect badly on BB
Maybe they don't, but they are forced to. It isn't just black and white. If they neglect a customer base then they are also neglecting potential market share - fact. Same reason MS is making Office for Apple products when they basically could say fuck off.
And again, same reason why they continue to support Skype on every other mobile platform.
jinxednuance Feb 7, 2013 at 3:13 pm
I really hope this app works well.
I used Galaxy s3 specifically for Skype and Viber. It was almost impossible to have a decent skype chat without the device rebooting.
So I had to sell my S3 and get an iPhone. Skype on iPhones works solid.
I hope the same for BB that way I can finally sell my iPhone and not carry two devices!
diegonei Feb 7, 2013 at 3:18 pm
I personally don't care. If it works the way it is supposed to work, who gives a rat's tail how it came to the platform.
Or will you guys complain that you wanted the browser in C++? HTML5 not good, even if it behaves as we expected it to?
But hey, what do I know...
BruvvaPete2 Feb 7, 2013 at 4:07 pm
lmao... ^^This^^
chaosdivine Feb 7, 2013 at 6:03 pm
I concur. Some people bitch to hear their own voice remember...
mr_zed10 Feb 7, 2013 at 3:27 pm
So much for "Skype are committed" lol, so commited they aren't even building a native app, I guess it makes sense for Skype until they see a demand and large user base on BB10 devices, I don't mind the port aslong as it works fine, just quite the hype. Please.
Vorkosigan Feb 7, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Ummmmm...hype is part of what sells phones...so no.
mr_zed10 Feb 7, 2013 at 6:58 pm
Yep and when the devices launch and everyone sees through the hype?
Lame camera,
Bb10 is freezing
Lacking features
Everysones waiting for 10.1 now
So erm no, move along kiddo, thank god your not in sales lol
Vorkosigan Feb 8, 2013 at 7:00 am
Actually old fart - can not believe you called me kiddo - the average user won't know Skype is an android port, stories of freezing are not every device, and while it's lacking a few features for the most part it seems to be a most solid first release of a platform. I take the complaints here with a grain of salt as some people are obviously hunting for issues to have. And there's nothing wrong with the camera.
lorax1284 Feb 7, 2013 at 3:49 pm
I think RIM should take the Android code and reverse engineer the communications protocols and write their own native version if Skype doesn't want to make the investment.
The UI on the Android version of Skype is just marginally better than the Windows Phone version, and frankly the whole thing needs to be redone for "Peek & Flow" in order to work properly: The iPhone version is passable, but really, BB10's UX paradigm could do a much better version of Skype... design the contact list like the Hub with "All" at the top, and then different categories (Skype All, Skype Online only, stored phone numbers etc) and of course integrate into the Contact List so there's a field for each contact to enter their skype account(s) and then you have "Skype on BB10".
An Android port is a stopgap: only a native app is acceptable, to me.
EDIT: That post was a reply to a question, and the poster was a "community moderator". I'm not 100% certain that he has all his facts straight, but I wager that someone at RIM like Alec or Thor would know for certain if we can expect a Native version anytime soon.
I would take an Android port in the interim, but I'd like a little more clarification on if and when a Native app is coming. That is, if no one (Skype nor BB) is even WORKING on a Native version, I would like to know that, too. "Glass Half Empty" promises aren't really acceptable any more.
half empty: Android port of Skype is it.
half full: Android port for now, Native is in development for release by Mid 2013.
Which is it?
honestly this is terrible. Not what you want to hear. Luckily i don't use it so it won't affect me. I also have a Lumia 920 and i've uninstalled the app because it's so terrible on the platform (and to think it's owned by Microsoft)
You are so correct!!! This is bad news and is why most Blackberry users in the US have 2 phones. The blackberry is still superior for email and BBM....but that's it. So for me when it comes to work, my 9900 along with my Playbook are awesome. But come vacation,a weekend relaxing, a night on the town, or catching up with family using skype or the other cross-platform messaging apps my iPhone 4s and iPad Mini are the tools of choice.
I'll wait a little longer until I dive into BB10. Give them time to fix all the developer relationships/application porting etc. Android apps on the playbook aren't that great but like Keystone Light (beer) or cheep whiskey...it'll get you there. But the user experience is horrible.
But time will tell.
BruvvaPete2 Feb 7, 2013 at 4:08 pm
Y'all done crying yet?
That made me laugh... but it might have just been the "y'all" (long story not getting into it here ;) )
Fnen90 Feb 7, 2013 at 10:34 pm
users like you never complain, thats why BlackBerry is so slow with developers/apps. "Never is enough"
BruvvaPete2 Feb 8, 2013 at 2:50 am
for u to make such an assinine statement shows how much u visit CB and how intellectually teenaged you are. There are A LOT of us who have ripped BB a new rear end for the debacle that has happened over the past few years. The thing is this is a new day. Keep up. Users like you should stick to WikiTude for your info. Moron
jdelvalle56 Feb 7, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Does this mean you have to side load it? Or will it be available in BlackBerry World? If you have to side load it - BlackBerry can forget about my mother and father (and many others) buying a Z10. It has to be easy for them or they will just go to competition.
00stryder Feb 7, 2013 at 4:58 pm
No need to side-load, BlackBerry will list it in World for us. This whole native/port issue is just a matter of how the app was developed, not where it will be available from. A lot of (good) apps on the PlayBook and Z10 are Android ports and work very well.
cjterminator Feb 7, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Well said. It should not matter to end user as long as it will work with good performance. So let's wait for it to land before making any judgements. Already there are so many quality apps Android port and they works perfectly, actually you will not notice that it is Android port.
jdelvalle56 Feb 7, 2013 at 9:55 pm
Thanks for clearing that up. I have a PlayBook and have sideloaded apps. I was afraid I was going to have to start explaining to people the process. As long as it works through BBW I am all in! I am kind of glad the Z10 hasn't been released in the US yet. I am learning so much from others right now. I should be ready to go in March!
00stryder Feb 8, 2013 at 1:18 am
No worries, that's what CrackBerry is for!
mphillips828 Feb 7, 2013 at 3:37 pm
I dont care if it is an Android port for the time being, I honestly think that Skype is just testing out the market to see if it is a viable market to develop a native app for. So even if you dont care about Skype...DOWNLOAD IT!!!! if Skype and MS see there is a large enough fanbase to support them putting resources into a Native app will be the next step! SO DOWNLOAD as we all want the native app!
On the other point being mentioned here...BBM as a cross-platform solution would be AMAZING! I am not sure if BBRY is looking into this, if not they totally should be! My idea is that BBRY should make BBM and its features available for iOS and Android for a limited time...full-access to all BBM capabilities (text, voice, and video calling). After the limited time is up (3-6 months of free usage) BBRY will make it a paid app (either monthly subscription, or one time purchase). If users love BBM they can purchase the app for iOS or Android and it will connect to all devices. Although the paid version will take away the video chat capabilities and possibly voice calling, in order to entice users to switch to BB to get the full experience.
This solution will result in a HUGE increase in BBM users as so many people with iOS or Android loved their BB before and will absolutely go back to using BBM (as it is a major feature people miss). Also, to get people to see how powerful BBM is and how much better it is on the new BB10 phones will definitely entice people to move back to BB10 in a years time, especially when BB10 will have more apps, people will start to see much more benefits from using a BB10 device!
The ability to run android app in bb10 is one of the best movements BBRY could do. Or do you really think that people know what c++, qml, java is?
People only wants apps that work, they don't care if they were programmed in java, c++, qml, html5 or anything else.
Mecca EL Feb 7, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Agreed. Half the folks complaining can't even read code, so how would anyone know if an app is native or not, without being told? Hey...that rhymed.
friendly1013 Feb 7, 2013 at 3:39 pm
As far as native vs. port: Much ado about nothing. The whole point of spending years perfecting the Android runtime was so that apps like Skype can invest fewer dollars into porting their apps to the BB platform. I don't know what you people expect, because even after the Blackberry 10 is 6 months old, it will represent a miniscule market share compared to iOS and Android. Why the hell would a (competing) company invest all this money re-writing their app from scratch if the functionality will be nearly the same just tweaking the Android verison?
Why is this terrible? the folks at blackberry have done a great job with the Android runtime. Thats why it's there, is to use, just like adobe AIR, HTML5 and all the rest.
People really need to chill, and be thankful that there is a low cost way for major app developers to convert their app so that you can use it.
martinjdub Feb 7, 2013 at 3:47 pm
+1 ... couldnt agree more!
mphillips828 Feb 7, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Hey...I agree, port is fine with me...Native does run nicer and looks cleaner and keeps a constant flow between the OS, but i agree...port works great...just use Songza from the BB World and you will see how nice it is.
Just an additional point to your comment...BBRY has stated that the Android Runtime will be updated to run Jelly Bean in the near future...this is AMAZING as (i dont have stats) most Android devices are not even running Jelly Bean...We could have Jelly Bean and OS 10 on a device..pretty spectacular if you ask me
lorax1284 Feb 7, 2013 at 3:53 pm
I appreciate what BB10 offers in terms of compatibility... but since the superiority of the BB10 platform on phones like the Z10 is directly related to its communication features (the "Hub") to have an Android port that doesn't integrate with the Hub and the Contact list is of lesser value than a Native app.
I have absolutely no doubt that I will be able to convince my friends and family who use skype to switch to whatever platform I decide is most effective. Maybe that's ooVoo, not sure, but when I go, I'm bring about 10 people with me.
mphillips828 Feb 7, 2013 at 3:57 pm
Absolutely...native is the way to go and is much better with the integration with the HUB and all of that...but if you read my post up above I did state that Skype will have the Android Port which for the time being will be everything and more BB users have been asking for...Skype I am sure will be testing the market for BB Users and if they see a large enough user base on BB's then I am sure Skype will begin developing (or already is) a native app.
Folks only know what they've experienced. And quite a few people (see the forums) enjoy the playbook. But ported android apps for the most part tend not to have a great user experience. Low cost or not...the user experience should be paramount.
Mecca EL Feb 7, 2013 at 4:25 pm
Nascar1449 Feb 7, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Well at least we have skype. would love to see the app in BlackBerry World however
mphillips828 Feb 7, 2013 at 3:53 pm
It will be in BlackBerry World...and android port, still in BB World
Crackberrykills Feb 7, 2013 at 3:53 pm
So, until I see something official, I will still hold out hope that the Skype application will be native. The Android ports work pretty well; however, going Native, as Kevin pointed out, is the way to go.
trynacu2 Feb 7, 2013 at 4:00 pm
I use Skype everyday but, personally, the only reason I want it on BB is so that I can tell friends, "yes, you can Skype". I would like to see BBM go cross-platform.
raxamillion Feb 7, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Can someone please tell me when Whatsapp is due? it is the only thing that i am waiting for to complete my Beautiful Z10 Trooper. I'm happy about skype, but for me personally, Whatsapp is needed and a big deal breaker for people who want a shiny new slice of the Z10 action.
Now I am still holding onto my bold 9900 because of whatsapp (group chat). Tried to sideload whatsapp to my Z10 - everything works pretty well except it couldn't access my contact. It doesn't seems like a hard problem to solve for the dev (hopefully)
I really want everyone to be on BBM but have to accept the sad reality that a lot of people use whatsapp :-(
ciscobear Feb 7, 2013 at 4:15 pm
oh boy coming soon, later this year.
In two years tell me if you get it. Same old story...
primusd Feb 7, 2013 at 4:17 pm
N4BB is reporting that the port is a heavy tweak of the android app (e.g. the Android action bar look nearly identical to that of a native BlackBerry 10 app). Performance seems to be enhanced by the fact that its running on the Jellybean runtime.
mcmolineux Feb 7, 2013 at 4:54 pm
So is the Jellybean runtime coming sooner than expected, or is Skype coming later than expected?
I thought the Jellybean update was far away.
athosellinas Feb 7, 2013 at 7:01 pm
My thoughts exactly, the runtime now is based on gingerbread. And there is no android device with gingerbread to support skype video call i think! So or the skype is coming without video call, or the runtime is going to upgrade as we now to support skype video call!
bradley_b Feb 7, 2013 at 9:10 pm
Skype 100% supports video calls on Gingerbread.
black.rhino Feb 7, 2013 at 4:21 pm
"Committed to the platform" = Tossing an android app into a converter? How many Android developers have then been "committed to BB10" without even knowing it? I'm disappointed. I see this as a pretty tough hit, as Skype has symbolized the "big apps" that BB10 needs to attract. We need the big apps to be native.
bmantz65 Feb 7, 2013 at 4:48 pm
I'm wondering if a tweaked Android port is how Instagram will come. The Netflix app on my wife's Kindle, Windows 8 desktop, and my Tivo all look pretty similar. I'm sure there is a reason for that. In that case, it SHOULD be easy for Netflix to tweak its Android app and port to BB10..
Android port is OK for me, though my ego still thinks that a native version would run better/faster. I guess all it matters is that it integrate well with the rest of the OS.
greatwiseone Feb 7, 2013 at 4:44 pm
I hope we don't have to wait until they upgrade the runtime for Skype to come over...
snakepit1988 Feb 7, 2013 at 4:57 pm
To be honest i'm quiet feel unconfortable i was so happy that day when i saw via broadcasting on 30th of January that the Skype will be available to BlackBerry 10!
it's just not fair to have a droid port on BB10!
i wrote to microsoft and skype at all (i know they won't give me any normal reply) about that why they're not support BlackBerry?
there are skype for iphone for droids and windows phone(windows phones are ok)
what's their problem with BlackBerry? why can't they support BlackBerry?
if the others has native Skype! We'd ASK too!
how do we ask them to give a native skype app?
what should we do to get the skype?!
IF RIM had the man power they'd probably build the skype app themselves. From past experiences with windows live client etc they're probably are in talks with Microsoft to build one natively but in the mean time, if it plays, works well, then we're not going to be missing out on much.
Native probably might run smoother/faster but surely if its a good port the performance will be negligible.
We will obviously miss out on integration but BB10 is built to handle android apps. WIth this in mind, it goes to show that anything on android can RUN on blackberry, you just need the support and if you want to go that step further and have it as a native app, it'll run even better.
Im sure blackberry would love to be the lead platform but for now, they'll have to wait and grow.
jejohnston15 Feb 7, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Kinda funny how everyone wants Skype it actually kinda sucks its not very good at all
jejohnston15 Feb 7, 2013 at 5:18 pm
And quit whining about the number of apps even the other platforms that have tons of apps can and do only use a small percentage of those cause the rest are crap its like bragging you have 10 pounds of potatoes but only 2 pounds are edible
SparkyBC Feb 7, 2013 at 5:18 pm
Another low road approach for the app gap. If it was not for the android player this platform would be in serious trouble. It should be native not a port, but when your market is pretty much nothing blackberry will take what they get.
Maybe someday they can get rid of the Android player and actually stand on their own two feet again.
k8bushlover Feb 8, 2013 at 1:11 am
What's your point? You keep saying there's so many Android apps, take them away, there's nothing.
Well, who's taking them away? Are you saying that BlackBerry should not have made it so easy for developers? So, you would like to see fewer apps, is that your ultimate goal?
Go spark up another one and quit talking out of your hind end.
soren203 Feb 7, 2013 at 5:22 pm
happy and disappointed at the same time, still waiting on netflix though :P
and would temple run be too much to ask for?! I want to see what all the fuss is about haha
bradley_b Feb 7, 2013 at 9:14 pm
Temple Run is done with the the Unity game engine. Which is coming to BB10. So it should be simple for those folks to bring it over.
itsyaboy Feb 7, 2013 at 5:23 pm
I never use Skype. Ugly program!
Why not a full GoogleTalk client with (video)calling? That'd be awesome!! But yeah, Google probably wouldn't like that bummer.
I guess I have to convince al my friends to go BlackBerry once again so we can use BBM video!
As long as it's good I'm happy. Same for Netflix.
Who would have thought? :D
It's not too much of a problem for apps like these which don't follow vendor's UI guidelines anyway.
Dany Pell Feb 7, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Whatever happens - FaceFlow is always going to be there for you, and we're always working on improving the app for BB10. Currently available on the BB10 as well as a convenient web app at FaceFlow.com
KWGeorgeBB Feb 7, 2013 at 5:43 pm
Until I see it working flawlessly on the Z10 I'm going to be skeptical. Generally I find that android apps don't perform on the same level as native apps. Too much stuttering and lag, also using Android menus takes away from the overall user experience.
bradley_b Feb 7, 2013 at 9:16 pm
Bad Android apps behave poorly on both stock Android and BB10. That said, the upgrade to Jelly Bean will certainly help.
bigopti Feb 7, 2013 at 5:51 pm
When they mentioned Skype at launch I was excited...
If they were able to convince MS to bring it to BB10, no matter how they did it, it could open the doors to more devs. Like hey, MS is on board making an app for BB10, so should we!
Plus the fact I use Skype a lot to keep up with my contacts foreign and abroad.
Now I am still happy that it comes, but sadly not native. I never had a lot of good experiences with running anything in a run-time machine on a non-native platform. Not even beginning about what it already can't do: tie-ins with the hub, contact list, using cascades.
And I just cant understand how a big company like that, can't make it native in a few weeks, wheres there are Indie developers creating beautiful native things with just a small team.
Even the program language is based on the same mother language 'C', and they don't have to reinvent the wheel completely. Just look up what the changes would be in the Libraries and adjust some functions and calls. If a webdesigner can go from html and javascript to ajax and php, so could MS go to another native c language.
And like who at MS thought it was SO USEFUL to bring Skype to the Playstation VITA almost immediately at or just after launch. Thats like betting on a few million possible gamers using it versus possible tens of millions future mixed bb10 users from teenagers and professional starters to hardcore doers and top tier business people.
snakepit1988 Feb 7, 2013 at 5:58 pm
BlackBerry Can!
i know BlackBerry gonna do it! Gonna Make It!
Funny how some bash Skype android port and they haven't even used it yet. You wanted Skype....here it comes...
Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes Feb 7, 2013 at 6:30 pm
the average consumer goes into blackberry world, downloads the app, and uses the app. No one other then us on here cares if its a port.
mduduzi2976 Feb 7, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Native or not who cares, as long as it's Skype and it works.
jstarett Feb 7, 2013 at 7:01 pm
I am sorry but the way they added that last little bit was to me, a slap in the face
LazyHenry Feb 7, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Does that mean we'll be able to use the skype app on the playbook as well? That would delay my switch over to bb10
Spencerdl Feb 7, 2013 at 7:24 pm
I hate to say this, but........I might as well start my research on a android device. All of these different ports........why not
Why not?
You do realize that the primary weakness of Android is the really badly designed OS, right? The apps are not the issue as much as the OS itself. See from my standpoint, they can port all they want as long as we do not have to use the Android OS. I am actually looking forward to the Jelly Bean runtime upgrade on BB10 since I can move a lot of my Android apps to the BB10 then.
It's great to be able to do an Android port on the Blackberry 10 OS, it's a great way to get popular apps quick....and in the meantime the native version can be develloped.
I'm sure there's a large number of app-devellopers sitting on the fence, just waiting to see how the new Blackberry is being received
SparkyBC Feb 7, 2013 at 7:28 pm
Take away all the android ports there isn't much left ;)
Just thank MS that they decided to give us Skype despite being competitors for the "3rd Platform". Though I think this is a good start to have people adopt BB10 and a good way for developers to "test" the platform. Only time (and a bunch of evanglization from us) will tell if people will flock BB10 that MS will be forced to make Native (or allow Blackberry to do so themselves).
The game Tomb Escape started as an Android app in the Playbook... after a while, it became Native.
PostMortem Feb 7, 2013 at 7:56 pm
As long as they work well, I don't care if Apps are ported from a Comodore 64...lol.
Naturally Native is preferred, but really... this is something to be excited over. Not that I use Skype, but I'm really happy to read that it is being worked on.
bigopti Feb 8, 2013 at 4:57 am
Nothing wrong with a classic like that! Now we don't need appworld anymore, just need to copy your tapes :)
mduduzi2976 Feb 7, 2013 at 8:01 pm
So bb10 can run Android apps, excellent. Don't see what's the big fuss. I hope this is just a step in the evolution of smart phones. In the future one should be able to access their apps from any platform they choose to use. Don't see why I should pay for the same app every time I change handsets ( just a thought ).
TheGreatGouk Feb 7, 2013 at 8:12 pm
Business on Skype and camwhoring on bbm video chat, the best of both world.
andrewmcwhirter Feb 7, 2013 at 8:37 pm
Although not ideal, I find android apps run pretty good on my z10. A huge improvement over the PlayBook.
buckwylder Feb 7, 2013 at 8:56 pm
I "ported" Skype to the z10.
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blackjad Feb 7, 2013 at 8:59 pm
the most important thing is that it works, native or not . we also need integration into the hub as well as no crashing freezing blabla. not everybody is realizing how much time it took apple to build their app library, and rim is just starting to attract developers. android is working fine and most of the apps are free , so why no port them ? i would'mt imagine porting apple apps with their costs and all of that
ari_paku Feb 7, 2013 at 9:28 pm
Damn you Microsoft!!!!
dakidnel Feb 7, 2013 at 10:49 pm
How about Netflix?
Found SKYPE Beta for BB10 here :
The average consumer doesn't understand what is Native App or if it's an Android port, all they need to know is that the App is available. I've never heard anyone that walks into their favorite electronic shop and asks if the apps are ported over or native to any platform.
alan1991 Feb 8, 2013 at 12:50 am
BB10 disappoints me, i I expected more... ):
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greatwiseone Feb 8, 2013 at 1:13 am
REALLY hoping the skype port doesn't require the jellybean runtime in the Android app player. If it does, then we won't see it for MONTHS (and BB can't wait for months). Also, Alec Saunders tweeted that Skype will be available by US launch.....
i'm a Blackberry Z10 user and i'm really shocked this morning when I downloaded the Badoo application! it is an Android Gingerbread version ;( I started to be unhappy with my device I expected more...
Nigelbrown Feb 8, 2013 at 1:28 am
Hey, as long as it comes out and works.....
donteju Feb 8, 2013 at 2:01 am
don tee
Android or Butroid, who cares about port here, most bb users here don't even know what port means, all they want is, be able to use skype on their bb
I don't understand some users that acts like a drama queen, android port will be moire than enough for year or two, after that Microsoft will replace all Skype native apps and push browser based Skype (their kind of WebRTC protocol) see for your self: http://metalworks.maxusglobal.com/webrtc-browser-skype-no-plugin/
kastortroy Feb 8, 2013 at 3:16 am
Maybe it's just me but I can't seem to wrap my head around this whole thing with Skype. I use it constantly as well, but i also like my 9900. I mean we live in mobile world, which also means being adaptable with our devices. We finally got it, albeit a port, but none the less its still skpye. It's not blackberry fault that Microsoft is being anal about its software. Don't we still have our laptops. I still do n use Skype on that when I travel. There are always workaround if you need it that bad, including Facebook, foursquare etc. Why complain all the time. If you all are still unhappy with bb10, just please move on to another platform that favors your needs. I like all the platforms but always very partial to my berry. It's my magic device to connect to those across the pond.
We forget the hard work blackberry has put into this awesome OS. And thank God they didn't follow the andriod path, just another yoyo in the crowd. It's ballsy to move on your own, and we as users cannot fathom the xtreme business risk to go this route alone. We have all become a bunch of spolied ingrates with our toys. I, for one, gonna enjoy this new and very fresh os in the coming months. Haven't used it yet but looks awesome.
As for Skype itself, I personally think it's an overrated software, half the time laggy and glitchy prone to any minor disturbances. BlackBerry will succeed through qnx; Phones, cars, appliances.
If people think blackberry is only about the phone, pfshhhhh right.
bigopti Feb 8, 2013 at 5:13 am
"Why complain all the time. If you all are still unhappy with bb10, just please move on to another platform that favors your needs. "
"We forget the hard work blackberry has put into this awesome OS. And thank God they didn't follow the andriod path, just another yoyo in the crowd."
I want Blackberry to succeed, and succeed very well. So well that they get back the respect they deserve. For that to happen I want all devs to acknowledge the true power in the platform and go all native on it. Whats the point if like 80% are running still on Android run-time, then they might as well adapted Android themselves and just add another flavor on top!
I don't want to be able to say:"we got Skype too", NO, I want to be able to say: "we got all the best apps everybody uses, but its just better on BB!".
kastortroy Feb 8, 2013 at 6:06 am
I totally agree with you on the fact that berries need native apps optimized for 10. I really don't like all these ports esp since I find these andriod apps unsafe. Their permissions are very invasive to the os. I still think 70k apps for a brand new os is an impressive start. I think once devs learn to properly code for 10, the exclusive apps will come in time. It's similar situation to Sony ps3 when it came out. Programmers had a very hard time coding for the unique cell processed. And to this day, still really haven't fully tapped into its full potential. I think it's the same thing here.
lizadaing Feb 8, 2013 at 3:52 am
Ironically one of my favourite android stock market apps runs better on the Z10 then it did on the S3 - go figure. http://tiny.cc/cqi0rw
romulusiulian Feb 8, 2013 at 3:58 am
Doesn't matter. As long as it works that's great. So bring it to BlackBerry10.
kraschute Feb 8, 2013 at 4:53 am
I'm also still hoping to get a native support for SKYPE, XMPP and SIP. An a Android app is ok but not ideal. For me it doesn't count if BB has 100.000 or 1.000.000 apps in the store as long as basic protocolls & services are well integrated into:
- phone calling
- texting
- hub
- addressbook
- videochat
Just have a look at Nokias 1,5 year old N9...
I expect nothing less than this, but I give BB still a bit of time. Otherwise I see no reason to switch from my N9 and the 3 Playbooks in my family will be just remain fun-gadgets
I expect that Blackberry make the screen resolution standard or proportional in the upcoming phones so that developers can make gorgeous and functional apps (like in iOS).
Porting apps isn't the best solution. If I'm going to buy a Blackberry 10 device I expect that the apps are built from scratch for that OS.
Blackberry still not announced when it's going to release BB10 in Portugal!! I'm waiting... :-)
k8bushlover Feb 8, 2013 at 12:34 pm
A lot of expectations: Are you a developer? Have you ever 're-used' code? Then anything you've copied and pasted has not been 'built from scratch.' Why, if nothing has changed but a screen size and a menu scheme, would you rewrite an entire app from scratch?
I am a user and I guess that Android OS is not the same as QNX?
That's the whole thing about BB10. A different and better experience, performance, user interface, etc.
karharot Feb 8, 2013 at 9:35 am
WTF? I know that does "android port" mean, i used to have playbook.
Blackberry said "We have skype" but in the reality it is just fu****g port from Android. Fuck you BBRY, Fuck you.
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D.Vader Feb 8, 2013 at 10:40 am
The good news just keeps coming! LOL
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Android Market for QNX Feb 8, 2013 at 3:10 pm
Good news, didn't they improve the Android Player by leaps and bounds? If it was like one of those old Android apps that are super buggy, then it's like who cares. Since they improved it, it's better than than nothing. Although I would love it if they just integrated video chat capabilities with BBM. Team BlackBerry FTW!
Rootbrian Feb 12, 2013 at 8:48 pm
Had a feeling it would be an android port. Microsoft just didn't want to put any effort into it. Shame on them. But still least people can stop bitching, moaning and complaining about it now.


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