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Parabola - Firestone Walker Brewing Co.
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Ratings: 4,532 | Reviews: 985 | Display Reviews Only:
Reviews by cxr1037:
4.9/5 rDev +6.3%
My girlfriend was given this bottle as a birthday gift last October and we decided to crack it open tonight. No real special occasion but I'll say it's to celebrate the health of one of our pet rats. :D
From a 22oz bottle into a Bruery tulip.
Appearance: All barrel aged imperial stouts (BA-IS) look the same: pitch black with a big, mocha head that rapidly dissolves into a solid, tan ring.
NOSE: I wanted to say bourbon, but as it warms it's reminding me more of Armagnac - I think due to hints of cherries. Chocolate, lots of chocolate, with whip cream that makes me think of ice cream sundaes! I'll still go ahead and say bourbon. Vanilla. Oak.
TASTE: The common BA-IS traits are here: bourbon, vanilla, oak, dark chocolate and sweet roasted malts are supported by the barrel's contributions of bourbon, oak, and vanilla. Another sip adds a few more notes - whip cream with chocolate syrup...those mental images of chocolate sundaes are coming back! Traces of nuttiness and alcohol.
MOUTHFEEL: Big, creamy body (obviously) that coats the mouth like a sweet dark blanket. There's nice carbonation; a little more than I anticipated.
FINISH: There's a strong alcohol presence. It seems more to me than 13%. The finish leaves my mouth coated in thick sweet chocolaty goodness.
OVERALL: I went into this expecting a standard BA-IS, and that's exactly what I got, which is just fine for me tonight. This is a perfect example of the style; the only real weakness might be the alcohol burn, but truth be told I kinda like it.
For the price/availability for me (in Southern California), I'd recommend this over just about any BA-IS I've come across. Truth be told, I downright like it more than a lot of them I've had recently, including the holier than thou BCBS.
01-20-2014 03:25:44 | More by cxr1037
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New York
4.66/5 rDev +1.1%
This pours out the paragon of virtue. Completely opaque. Black walnut. If you only pour a bit like I did you will not see too much of the mocha colored head but it does refresh even though I did not pour one. It created a ring as I swirled it and left spot of lace and alcohol legs. In the natural light the beer showed a deep chestnut brown with engaging clarity. ( In the photo you can see my face in the beer)
Deep rich, sweet chocolate and hearty roasted malt combine on the nose. Subtle blushing cherries, bold bourbon and a bit of espresso coffee. The bourbon is like a flower that opens on the nose. It is fragrant and seductive. There is a scent of toasted coconut that is light and accented by a bit of vanilla. Dark fruits dance gayly in the background. Molasses rounds out the nose and the scent of sweetened nuts.
The palate is alive at once with earthy and full roast. This malt has been brought to the edge of blackness and yet it stays mellow and tempered with sweetness that collapses inward on all it's sides. The blushing cherry, the dry date, the light and airy oak, the creamy coconut and vanilla. The malt is dry and firm but just bitter enough to come up to the brink of char and stop short. Nothing burnt here. Smooth, creamy, chewy, full mouthfeel. Exceptional smoothness. The molasses takes over the palate as this finishes with bourbon getting lighter and the dark fruits getting stronger.
A slightly boozy finish takes hold at the very last moment of the swallow not with a big taste of alcohol but with a warmth like a smile from a gracious host who is sincerely happy to have set all this before you. The alcohol leaves a bit dry and fully engages the senses one more time before it's done.
Drinking this beer is like doing something you know is wrong and loving every minute of it.
07-27-2014 16:21:06 | More by utopiajane
New York
4.85/5 rDev +5.2%
05/14/13 On tap at Rattle n Hum, NYC. 2013 vintage. The first sip is like an innocent kiss & then it's too late. You find you have a tiger by the tail...or should I say it's got you. There's so much going on in the glass it's difficult to home in on where to start. Each sip is different from the last & they are spiraling upwards until you reach a plateau of familiarity that has simplified all the complexities of aroma & flavors that make up this admirable brew & you start to feel at home & very comfortable.
Not for the faint of heart (or anyone driving). I found myself sipping at a leisurely pace for 1) enjoyment 2) preservation of the potion, as it's a rare find & 3) self preservation. The 12.5% ABV, although present in every sip, never let's on that this is for adults only. Think of it as an encounter on a plane trip, sitting next to some extremely attractive & engaging person & your smitten. It's a short lived experience & most likely once in a lifetime. Because of that, all feelings are multiplied & enhanced, in memory, by distance from the moment.
Do yourself a big, big flavor favor & make some time for this indulgence. If you do I guarantee your self esteem will improve based on that decision alone.
08-08-2014 15:46:30 | More by seedyone
4.75/5 rDev +3%
11-29-2013 20:44:29 | More by aszatk01
4.5/5 rDev -2.4%
07-01-2013 03:51:17 | More by DanGeo
4.81/5 rDev +4.3%
Excellent beer.
A: Very dark brown, not much head.
S: Good bourbon/vanilla aroma.
M: Great mouthfeel. Pretty smooth finish.
T: Lots of caramel flavor.
O: I want more.
Drank at a bottle share alongside Black Xantas and KBS. Parabola definitely holds up next to these beers even though I think KBS edges it out slightly. I enjoyed the info on the label and was surprised how high the IBUs are for not seeming too hoppy. Definitely recommend if you like BA stouts or Imperial Stouts.
07-14-2014 02:32:52 | More by Smokesnotes
5/5 rDev +8.5%
Amazingly balanced hefty stout, at a great price.
The first time I had this one, 2011, I walked into a BevMo to buy two beers for myself to drink during a house party...and got 2 bottles of this, thinking "meh, cheap burly Stout, that'll do great for the night" not knowing at all what I had.
Half way through the night, I'm completely trashed off both bottles wondering what this was and why it tasted so amazing, and when did Firestone get so good when I only remember the DBA being boring before!? This really turned me onto them, and I keep an eye out for any in the Reserve Series (Abacus/Sucaba is great, too).
Anyway. Now I always buy the max, and I have at least 2-3 of each vintage since then in my cellar.
Dark, rich, not much carbonation, chocolate and bourbon notes, lots of roasted malts...just about everything I want in a stout.
Can't wait for the 2014 release, so I can keep the cycle going.
08-08-2013 21:40:22 | More by steenkampa
4.6/5 rDev -0.2%
Thanks to the numerous BA's who sent me some bottles of this; I've put it off for way too long. It pours an extremely dark brown color that might as well be called jet-black as it sits, motionless in the glass. A light-mocha colored head plumes up and shows excellent retention; it lasts for days and leaves nice lace spots behind as it slowly recedes down the glass.
The aroma is magnificent; lots and lots of bourbon that's mellowed out by a deep onset of wood and oak. Plentiful amounts of chocolate graze the top of the booze; sweet, creamy and delicate, like a molten mocha cake. Mild hints of vanilla ride over the top of everything, most likely an induction of the barrel itself.
A nice, underlying blanket of roasted malts gives a solid base upon which everything else seems to stand, although the bourbon is strong enough that it may not even need a "base". Parabola has a very large aroma; its potency outright is surely something to behold, and if nothing else, it tells you that this is gonna be one hell of a beer.
Wow. One sip in, and color me impressed. Incredibly smooth, silky, and soft on the palate with just a light tingle of carbonation as the bourbon-heavy brew slips across my palate. The "first and foremost" flavor would be the monumental heaps of chocolate that assault my palate. Deep, dense, dark, bittersweet, and creamy fudge-y chocolate cascades over my senses, clashing with smaller pips of vanilla to create an almost dessert-like delicacy with each sip.
Make no mistake about it, though, the bourbon and oak are as heavy as can be. Soft, warming bourbon entrances every sip just as well, showing the huge robustness of the brew and sending a permanent warmth from the back of your tongue to your belly. Not "hot", but pretty warm, while still remaining smooth thanks to the blunting efforts of the creamy chocolate and the oatmeal.
The aftertaste also contains a bit of bourbon and lots of oak; almost enough oak to call the finish "dry", but falling just shy of this mark. The malts open up a bit more with time, adding more complex notes of burnt caramel and maybe even a touch of sweet maple syrup in the finish. The dominant chocolate and bourbon notes still reign supreme, making this beer like an "adults only" dessert that would be fit for a king.
Well, it's taken me long enough to finally try Parabola, and now that I have, I'll be sure to nab up as much as possible each year that it comes out. Being from Southeast Michigan, some might say we're spoiled with "big" stouts; BCBS, KBS, Black Note, etc... But I'd put Parabola RIGHT up with those brews, and possibly even ahead of a few. So what the hell are you complaining about West Coasters?? This stuff is amazing.
07-01-2013 03:01:22 | More by tectactoe
4.25/5 rDev -7.8%
06-02-2012 03:32:29 | More by DavyJones
4.75/5 rDev +3%
12-31-2013 00:58:32 | More by OhioBobcat
4.75/5 rDev +3%
11-27-2013 19:34:22 | More by jono0101
5/5 rDev +8.5%
02-14-2014 01:36:08 | More by brownbeer
5/5 rDev +8.5%
06-22-2012 17:29:21 | More by abeerdude
4.25/5 rDev -7.8%
06-12-2013 01:08:05 | More by Schlais
5/5 rDev +8.5%
06-14-2014 05:56:24 | More by Spaten454
4.25/5 rDev -7.8%
06-05-2013 19:46:52 | More by Dabeel
4.63/5 rDev +0.4%
poured from bottle into a snifter.
A: Poured black almost oily with very little head. Some lacing on the glass.
S: sweet with hints of oak and coffee.
T: Initially strong dark fruit/raisin flavors. As the beer warmed up a bit I got dark chocolate, roasted coffee and hints of vanilla. Amazing complexity and drinkability as the beer opened up.
M: The colder it was the more syrupy sweet it stuck in my mouth, almost cloying. As the beer warmed up it become much smoother.
Overall great beer, wish I could get my hands on another bottle.
11-27-2011 08:04:42 | More by poibag808
4.5/5 rDev -2.4%
07-21-2013 20:46:18 | More by SanFranJake
4.75/5 rDev +3%
03-03-2014 20:30:14 | More by delaced21
New York
5/5 rDev +8.5%
A - Dark as night, absolutely viscous appearance. Very minimal head with strong lacing on the glass.
S - Chocolate, bourbon, vanilla, dark fruits, coffee, oak. You can barely smell the alcohol.
T - Sweet roasted malts and chocolate up front. On the back coffee, toffee, caramel, and vanilla. You can barely taste the bourbon.
M - Very good smooth feel. A lot softer then I would have guessed. Just like velvet.
O - Wow, that was the first word that came to mind after the first sip. This beer is as close as excellence can get in my opinion. By far the best beer for me this year and definitely in my top 5 all-time. Thank god I have one more bottle aging!
07-25-2011 20:15:55 | More by SkiBum22
4.75/5 rDev +3%
05-19-2014 21:16:42 | More by RebeccaMB
4.25/5 rDev -7.8%
04-06-2014 03:47:28 | More by BubalooBrewMaster
5/5 rDev +8.5%
02-18-2012 17:00:16 | More by bdkucharski
5/5 rDev +8.5%
01-01-2014 22:00:49 | More by Ben7773
4.78/5 rDev +3.7%
A: a dark mocha pour, very little visible carbonation and an thin tan head.
S: certainly hints of chocolate and vanilla at first with some lingering notes of caramel, malts, and bourbon to round out an absolutely delicious smelling beer.
T: YUM. similar to the smell there was an immediate blast of chocolate and bourbon while undertones of vanilla and toffee took some time to develop.
MF/D: definitely could've drunk the bottle by myself if it were my own (and it wasn't 13%). went down fairly smooth, though some lingering IBU's tickled my tongue. could feel the ABV at the end of my 8oz pour.
03-01-2011 15:31:54 | More by newk340
Parabola from Firestone Walker Brewing Co.
100 out of 100 based on 4,532 ratings.


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If you haven't already, you're going to want to read Kevin's BlackBerry Z10 review and Simon's BlackBerry 10 OS reviews. When you're done, if you're still curious what other tech blogs and news sites are saying about the brand new BlackBerry Z10, but don't have time to search the web looking for their reviews, you can take a look below and get a peek into what other reviewers are saying.
As you can likely guess, there are some good reviews and some negative reviews, but it seems many of the thoughts on the new device are optimistic, though some note there are still some features and apps lacking compared to other platforms.
You can take a look at some of those thoughts from other sites below, in no particular order.
The Z10 and BB10 represent a radical reinvention of the BlackBerry. The hardware is decent and the user interface is logical and generally easy to use.
RIM has produced an excellent cellphone based on what appears to be a solid foundation. I just don't know if it will be enough to turn things around.
The Z10 is a good smartphone. Frankly, it's a better smartphone than I expected from RIM at this stage in the game. It does everything a modern phone should do, usually without hesitation. It doesn't do everything perfectly, but it does many things — most things — reasonably well.
BlackBerry's BlackBerry Z10 is genuinely a pretty nice phone. Performance, helped by the lightweight QNX-based OS, is more than acceptable. The form factor offers you plenty of screen size in a device that may not feel luxurious, but does at least seem durable. And, bucking the trend, the battery is removable. Camera performance is adequate in most cases and overall there's really a lot to like.
I can safely report that based on my experience, BlackBerry has come a long way, but BlackBerry still has a very long way to go, and whether or not users will continue to stick around for the remainder of that journey will depend a lot on how fast the app ecosystem can grow.
It's very tough to build a phone from scratch, starting with the operating system, crafting the user interface, and picking the right path for app development and support. There were plenty of different paths for Research In Motion to take, and I do kind of question the one that the company ultimately chose.
The hardware is solid and everything has been optimized and developed for it first before the QWERTY model. The device itself complements the BlackBerry 10 OS, and other than the smudge issue, I think RIM has a solid hardware platform for BlackBerry 10.
BlackBerry has done a lot right with the Z10, the first smartphone to run its new, bet-the-company operating system. The touch-screen phone -- a version with the traditional BlackBerry physical keyboard is expected, too -- is handsome, intuitive to use and a whiz at multitasking.
The Z10 is a fully modern BlackBerry. It's fast, has a mobile browser that beats many of the others and an outstanding software keyboard. No, its battery life and camera are not as strong as the competition, but its bigger issue lies with the fact that it runs a brand new operating system.
And that's the challenge – in an era when Apple's iPhone 5 was a slight disappointment because it was a little bit predictable, and when Samsung is packing phones so full of features it's hard to always find a use for them, the Z10 is merely quite good. It will find its corporate niche, and 'too little too late' is too harsh. But it's not quite enough, not quite soon enough.
Yet the BlackBerry Z10 is a huge step in the right direction for RIM. If you're looking for a high-end, touch-screen smartphone that feels different than the iPhone, Android or any other mobile OS - and you're not too concerned with the lack of quality BlackBerry 10 apps - you'll find a friend in the Z10. But if you want a healthy selection of the most popular mobile apps and the best overall mobile experience available today, you probably want to look elsewhere.
The Z10 is a decent smartphone offering up a strong range of features and a fancy new operating system which may catch the eye of the technologically adventurous. It does pretty much everything we'd expect from a high-end device and there are no major flaws to go running to the presses about.
For some the Z10 will be amazing, but for most, it just won't cut it against the incredibly strong competition already out there.
All in all, RIM has laid out a great foundation to build upon with BlackBerry 10. There are some great elements to it but then again there are places where work is needed. It's definitely a must-have upgrade for current BlackBerry owners as long as their favorite applications make it to the new OS.
The BlackBerry Z10 makes an excellent first impression, and is one of the most impressive pieces of hardware for a platform debut in recent memory. BlackBerry 10′s ability to consolidate troves of data into a usable space, the Hub, its powerful development tools and a growing community of loyal developers, along with excellent first-party and launch apps, bodes well for its entry into the Canadian market.
ddlax22 Jan 30, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Read that bgr review and I was digusted but I'm excited to the a degree about what the overall concensus is on the phone but upset about release dates that I know have nothing to with Blackberry themselves.
pfluger Jan 30, 2013 at 5:48 pm
+1 about the BGR review
Had to stop at
"As far the display, it's a 4.2-inch screen with a resolution of 1280 x 768 pixels. It looks good, but not great compared to other high-end smartphones that are packing a boatload more pixels than the Z10."
bpmg4u Jan 31, 2013 at 12:23 am
YES, TOTALLY Agree!
Jonathan S. Geller, oughtta take his head out of his a$$; NO credibility when it's BLATANTLY OBVIOUS he has ab-so-fliggin-lutely NO CLUE what he's talking about
... knocking the Z10's 1280 x 768 display vs. the Fruitphone5 (quoting DIRECTLY from said company's Website! at http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/) display that:
"And as stunning as the Retina display is on the iPhone 4S, this one gives you 18 percent more pixels for an impressive 1136-by-640 resolution."
THAT'S a HUGE difference!!
Now, Z10 vs. the Galaxy S III, (http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/mobile/mobile-phones/smartphones/SGH-...) Samsung lists it at "720 x 1280" resolution, ALSO LOWER(fine, just 'slightly' but "still!") than the Z10.
Next time J.S.Geller wants to show off his "comparison" prowess, let's ask him to do his F-N Research first; THEN explain to him what the numbers really mean as well as the concepts of "higher vs. lower" and "better vs. worse."
Now, send him back to his sandbox to play with his shovel and tonka-trucks ... but let's check his diaper first: something stinks!
What a moron!
Belbarid Jan 31, 2013 at 8:09 am
Geller has *always* hated BlackBerries, from pre-BB6 days, and it's always shown. His reviews are rarely based on the device itself, and generally degenerate into long-winded rants. And it got a lot worse once RIM gave up on BGR and started shutting them out of press events.
I'm curious to see what Ashley Esqueda has to say on the Monday Brief.
texazzpete Jan 31, 2013 at 4:42 am
There are 1080p smartphones out there...and a boatload of others shown off at CES that will come out in weeks. There's nothing really false about what BGR said.
samuelwhatshisface Jan 31, 2013 at 7:57 am
Yes, but he doesn't make the same complaints about the iPhone 5, SGS3, HTC One X, etc., that all have great screens (with 720p horizontal, maximum), but when it comes to blackberry, 768p horizontal is instantly terrible.
SPACE-AGE-INC Jan 30, 2013 at 6:02 pm
BGR had issues with the their community in the past for deliberately bashing RIM with distasteful reports and comments. Very much so that at one point that Jonathan Geller had to combat commenters on his site questioning what came off as unnecessary bashing with the RIM relate news and a few others struggling companies at that time. I didn't have much respect for some of his view in his reviews, as they came off a bit biased, but I stopped using his site during the time he addressed the "bad comments" because of how he handled that situation.
Foreverup Jan 30, 2013 at 8:13 pm
I remember when he did that. One of the biggest cop outs I ever so a website do. Pretty much instead of actually managing his site and getting people to at least be civil. He went to a facebook sign in so people would supposedly have to use their real names instead of hiding behind an anonymous screen name. Still hasn't changed anything over there.
Steve Wozniak is one of BGR's "advisers" (read investors).
Getting a balanced view from BGR is therefore tough. And it shows in the drop in their readership over the past few years.
Truth is many of the apparently unbiased blogs out there are either owned by, invested in or otherwise tied to manufacturers. (Engadget? Ex-Google). If you rely on advertising revenue somewhere there is almost bound to be editorial influence.
At least with the brand specific blogs you know what you're getting.
Telanis Jan 31, 2013 at 1:08 am
The Woz is great though, he buys like every flagship phone there is just to play with it because he's a nerd. He's not an Apple fanboi, amazingly.
Emu the Foo Jan 30, 2013 at 8:04 pm
I agree. I was sick too. Same thing about the pixels part saying out loud, "really?!?". I've stopped looking there for almost 2 years. And I remember some of his posts about the community and how its his view so either like it or deal with it cuz he isn't going to change.
On a slightly different note the cnet review was pretty gross too. Not as bad but maybe equal in a different way? I have come to distrust cnet over the years as well. They seem to be political and choose companies. A lot of their reviews might give something 3 stars (I hate a 5 star scale but I've learned to deal) when the consumers give it 4.75. And something they give 4.5 stars the users give a 2.5. What is wrong with tech sites? Can't they be happy with technology evolving and advancing and not be so harsh? I've had my share of bashing but only in deffense. When does CB ever go hating on everyone or even anyone really?
IqWaN Jan 30, 2013 at 10:11 pm
only TECH RADAR is sounding unbiased, rest all suck!! They sound like they dont know what they are talking about...
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Ultimately the success or otherwise of BB10 will depend on whether the carriers push the device.
Hence the delays until March in the US. But most of the rest of the world is far more price sensitive and less brand loyal. So in Europe, Asia etc, BB10 should receive a more balanced view and even though the US is a large market, it's still only about 20% of the global market.
ciscobear Jan 30, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Well we expect that from bgr and cnet. These two amaze me, I always expect awful reports from them.
Unfortunately, I am in same boat.
cappo40 Jan 31, 2013 at 11:44 am
Don't forget about Gizmodo...worse than BGR and CNET combined
espresso1967 Jan 30, 2013 at 5:34 pm
Downer for me is release date on ATT :0(
bbfan1040 Jan 30, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Verizon already has 'info' sign-up offered on their website. ATT looks to be behind again.
Long time ATT fan that may have to change!
But carrier may not make a difference since I really want White.
MasterOfBinary Jan 30, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Overall I think the media was generally positive, which can only be a good thing since usually they talk like no good thing could ever come from BlackBerry.
greatwiseone Jan 30, 2013 at 5:36 pm
I find the reporting generally somewhat uneven. I think to put the Z10 up against the Galaxy S3 or Galaxy Note 2 is difficult (gen 1 product v. gen 3 product).
codemaker Jan 30, 2013 at 6:49 pm
I think it's fair. That's what is currently available on the market. That's what consumers will compare it against. Those are BlackBerry's competitors.
2wheeltim Jan 30, 2013 at 8:52 pm
By the time the US can actually buy these phones, Samaung will be on Gen 4. And gen 5 will be a few months away. I like BlackBerry, used to be a fan, but the business model can not compete with open source model as far as technology goes. With this release, I will be expecting improved keyboards for my SG3, with open source, it's only a matter of time.
Google generally licenses Android using ASL. That means any additions from carriers are not "open source". Unlike with GPL when typically they would have to be truly open.
So if Samsung decide to enhance the keyboard - and assuming they're not violating patents - you may well see an improved keyboard. I doubt it though.
Apart from the number of apps (which will grow quickly) BB10 is superior in every respect to Android.
The problem is most bloggers wouldn't know an operating system if it slapped them in the face. They do know and like user interfaces - but those are not OS.
"BlackBerry" needs to continue to push development of apps, but focus on quality, and they'll soon push their way to the top.
cappo40 Jan 31, 2013 at 11:45 am
Open source is not always good, that is the main reason why Android devices are so insecure. Any person can add a small bit of code to get any information for someone who downloads their apps. I am even hesitant to run Linux/Unix because they are open source too, too much risk.
Don't worry about that.
When you, for the start, put the highly reliable, highly efficient, yet highly lightweight QNX on a device, it will beat the hell out of the competitor's 3. and 4th gen devices.
Now add to that the best in class high resolution screen (1280x768, 356 PPI) so that haters completely loose it (like BGR p i s s i n g in the wind).
No need to talk about security, balance, mobile payment on a secure device, peak, flow, hub, innovative keypad, ...
I enjoy, seeing the 1st gen BB product, suddenly gets (fair or even unfair) comparison with the devices who currently have the highest market share.
I just call it a damn good start.
EchoTango Jan 30, 2013 at 5:39 pm
I also just read Geller's BGR review and it's written to seem balanced but is really a total bash. He says things like the camera is really cool but confusing to use...the OS is really smooth but then it stuttered when a lot of apps are opened....We also are going to hear a lot about a new "defect"....the oily screen. Seems other phones (especially iPhone) handle oily fingers better.
It's like he wanted to hate it and tried really hard to hate it and with a lot of perseverance eventually got there.
codemaker Jan 30, 2013 at 6:57 pm
Yeah, I agree. There were a few inaccuracies in there. He is unaware of bb protect for backup, and claims IMAP push is not supported.
fjleon Jan 30, 2013 at 9:47 pm
it isn't, at least not for gmail. same thing on the crackberry review, and addressed by google themselves on their blog
TravKoolBreeze Jan 30, 2013 at 5:45 pm
The thing that worries me from all these reviews is this idea of "too late" or just caught up but not a game changer. I don't know if they want the company to succeed or have the OS bought out by like Samsung or Apple
dbarz Jan 30, 2013 at 11:54 pm
the tech reviewers all seem to want to say bad things about the Z10 but find so little bad stuff to say that they resort to complaining about none issues and move away from reviewing the device to trying to predict the fate of blackberry...
they make me sick!!!
cappo40 Jan 31, 2013 at 11:51 am
It is a brand new OS, who knows what the first update will add or update. Lets use the device for more than an hour before we come to conclusions.
arrodiii Jan 30, 2013 at 5:46 pm
There's obviously no way of pleasing everyone, though it seems as if everyone is putting BB up against 1 and 2 when everyone used to assume they were struggling for 3rd. Oh well, I am still happy to be getting one
arrodiii Jan 30, 2013 at 5:47 pm
Double post
Ultimately it comes down to how BB markets this. Think of all the iOS users who bought their device without knowing how to use it but Apple made them think they needed it.
caitken Jan 30, 2013 at 5:58 pm
Even though I really wanted the Q10 I just pre-ordered the Z10! Can't wait to get it on February 5th!
mrskycar Jan 30, 2013 at 6:03 pm
Okay so when is the Mobile Nations tour coming? I am really looking forward to that.
Pilchard Jan 30, 2013 at 6:04 pm
Bit of a worry that one reviewer said the battery often ran out at 6pm. Sounds like the early days of the 9900.
Bold 9000
Playbook 16MB
Same as every 1. OS on BB´s? :-)
My Experience is, that every new BB that i have owned has a "short" Battery Life. But after a few fast OS Updates its getting better and better. For me its not a big surprise and nothing to mention about. Lets wait 2 Month and we can talk about Battery Life. :-)
randall2580 Jan 31, 2013 at 12:48 am
That is the first thought that came to my mind as well. While some others had troubles the 9000 was the toughest to get right in my memory. I hope BB can figure this out, though I wonder how they balance constant running apps with battery life. Will be interesting to watch the development - if you watch the presentation again - you will see the battery on the demo unit get used pretty quickly.
whitbags Jan 30, 2013 at 6:18 pm
All the reviews seem to say "meh, s'ok..."
JPSKILLZ Jan 30, 2013 at 9:13 pm
True, at the same time, this can be seen as a positive compared DEAD.
123berryaddicted Jan 30, 2013 at 11:16 pm
EXACTLY! - let us all remember that iPhone5 also didn't get the greatest reviews.... These tech reviewers are 90% garbage reporters... If they're not bashing it like they did the pb, then its a positive review. Seems most the reviews I read didn't have a creditable complaint... Which is a positive for me. I see it like this.... Most phones (and OS') are rated a 9/10 on some things, but a 3/10 on others... But the Z10 seems to be rated at about 8/10 on 'most' things... With a few exceptions which are understandable (lack of apps), etc.
Nadeem Naz Jan 31, 2013 at 3:56 am
Well said
whitbags Jan 30, 2013 at 6:23 pm
It will more interesting to see how it sells and what real users think. All the Tech RVs seem to come with an angle; don't feel particularly objective.
Complaining that we shouldn't compare 1.0 BB10 with more mature operating systems like android or IOS is specious at best; that is EXACTLY what real people will do when the go to buy a new phone.
Cat San Jan 30, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Fair enough but on the other hand when people go to get a new phone, often they can't tell the difference between the latest version of Android/iOS. But comparing a new operating system to an established one is what tech sites should do. a lot of people read up on mobile phones before they buy them nowdays as they cost so much. Using iOS6 as a comparision is a bit unfair and quite funny. Moaning about the map's app in BB10 with the Maps on iOS? At least BB aren't telling customers to go download map apps from other places until they fix theirs. That dosn't get reported about in the comparison. If they are going to compare then they as long as it's warts and all I'm fine with it.
JPSKILLZ Jan 30, 2013 at 9:16 pm
Yea, nothing we can do about that, we're victims of our own HYPE. But the thing is, BB10 IS BETTER, it's really just a matter of Apps & getting in people's hands. The month wait in the US doesn't help the Consumer Impulse Advantage. Anxious to see how Blackberry (Love saying Blackberry instead of RIM) handles its marketing for the next month.
mathking606 Jan 30, 2013 at 6:40 pm
They keep saying it needs to be a gamechanger. WP8 is not a gamechanger. (Lumia has great camera and diff colours). TBH WP8 just look like another app launcher to me yet the reviews all say oh its so cool and its gonna take off. The Z10 reviews say oh its the best BlackBerry but its not that great. As well I just don't understand the Iphone has a horrible battery and its not removable. As well it is boring. Apple has stopped innovating a lot and yet sites still give it 9/10 stars. Did apple really invent anything anyway? Tablets were around for a while before the Ipad and so were touch screens!! I do not know if reviewers really hate BlackBerry or they are being paid by the other companies? Honestly I wish they would do a write up about what they were expecting from a 1st gen operating system that had to be built from the ground up and I am really serious about that? Now I really want BlackBerry to make 10.1 blow the competition out the water. Sorry for the rant but the media are really annoying me.
JPSKILLZ Jan 30, 2013 at 9:22 pm
As a Blackberry Community we have to understand that we weren't going to blow them away...the "NEXT BIG THING" will come in the form of HARDWARE. BB10 is the software that will drive that new hardware. The key is getting people to focus on the software, which is what Thor has been consistently trying to do. It's why I've heard comments today like, "Blackberry's take on iPhone." People look at the hardware and think iPhone, not, let's see what this can do. With that said, as a Blackberry Community we have to become an EXTENSION of Blackberry, by TRULY KNOWING our Blackberries and taking on ALL challengers in our day to day lives, because the best marketing is word of mouth. If not, they'll just look at it and say knock off iPhone.
Telanis Jan 31, 2013 at 1:10 am
I like your attitude but I am not sure what you're saying :(
Nadeem Naz Jan 31, 2013 at 4:01 am
I feel your frustration. Personally I think these so called tech reviewers were once BB users. Then they left the platform, and now out of arrogance, they want toslate it because they think coming back to BB is like crawling through a cat flap.
They just need to admit its a great OS and they need to do their research before they post their empty arguements.
raymond Jan 30, 2013 at 6:43 pm
This is a big deal. I scanned the others and didn't see anyone say anything about it but bgr did.
Is this an accurate statment? Or speculation??
BBHermes Jan 30, 2013 at 6:47 pm
It seems many of these initial reviews carry some residual accents from the "we-want-rim-to-die-now" media bandwagon/circus, so an unfair sense of "underwhelmed" is getting projected.
The pundits are going through something akin to the 5 stages of grief. Stage 1: Denial. We've passed that stage already and are now at Stage 2: Grudging acceptance. I suspect things will improve as people get to see how revolutionary BB10 really is, and eventually the stage of Love will be reached!
JPSKILLZ Jan 30, 2013 at 9:24 pm
This is why the month hurts the US so bad, because it gives the haters time to spread their lives and the consumers time to buy into them.
fjleon Jan 30, 2013 at 6:44 pm
i was almost convinced to switch to bb10 (currently galaxy nexus android user), but i think it still doesn't catch up or offer something worth switching. Fewer apps, worse battery life (1 day) compared to old phones, no push email support for non corporate email accounts (bad google), no drop down notifications like all other platforms...
Still, for blackberry diehard fans, i guess it's an improvement.
codemaker Jan 30, 2013 at 6:58 pm
I think it will support push for certain IMAP accounts. The playbook supports push for my non gmail imap account.
green_ember Jan 30, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Do you last longer than 1 day? Plug it in while you sleep FFS...
effort900 Jan 31, 2013 at 7:47 am
LOL - that's funny!!!
JPSKILLZ Jan 30, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Blackberry Balance is FAR more secure than the ever ailing Android Work/Play system. The Z10 has a removable battery, just by two Day/Night problem solved, plus that just depends on use anyway. It does support Push. Don't need a Drop Down Menu, it's called the Hub & the infamous Blackberry Spark will let u know when. It's NOT "other platforms," it's better...it's Blackberry 10. So what was your question?
Jig_Insane Jan 30, 2013 at 6:56 pm
One of the reviews on Cnet I believe went a bit overboard with the comparison to the iPhone 5. I agree it will be compared to all, but the review mostly just seemed like "but the iPhone does this" review. I like most of the optimism, and am currently interested in seeing sales now.
1magine Jan 30, 2013 at 7:04 pm
I've read each one I could find in their entirety. The device and the OS are 100X better than any current generation BB. For BB users a B+. Loosing so many options to tweak the OS, the loss of all push email except for Exchange and the crowded and inconsistant Hub, lose it the A. But measured against the latest hardware and software on IOS and Android, we'll, its just a C+. Removeable battery, sd card, and Flash help, but lack of Gorilla Glass, the Maps/ navigator which is the same as the one still getting beaten up in the Beta Zone, a barely functioning voice assistant and lack of key apps hurt the grade. This is consistent from Crackbery Kevin, down to BGR. Seriously when Kevin has to make a half dozen inquiries to RIM on a device release, there are some issues. This device and this OS have been in production for.more than 2 years. Since before the Playbook. So for many who have been waiting and hoping RIM would hit it out of the park, you can understand their dissapointment in a Ground Rule Double.
koool1 Jan 30, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Not everyone loved the iPhone 5 either.
RIM should have launched in the U.S. next week also and should have had the Q10 ready also. April would kill me - going all touch.
experiment 626 Jan 30, 2013 at 7:11 pm
Instead of comparing the Z & Q10's to the flagship Apple and Android devices how about comparing them to the WP 8 phones from Nokia & HTC. Does BB10 have what it takes to be a 3rd option,instead of Windows Phone?
Mr.Black.Berry Jan 30, 2013 at 7:22 pm
I have a question. For the past 2yrs I've heard nothing but blackberry is dead and need to sale. Critics have been pouring dirt on this company for as long as I can remember. So how did they go from being dead to being compared to the number 1 and 2 SEASONED platforms on the market???!!! Last I checked, all the critics were saying that BB10 will compete for the number 3 spot against windows @ best. Now they're comparing it to iphone5 and android just to bash it. BGR said the display couldn't compete with iphone's res while the Z10 has a higher res and the highest ppi to date! This is just straight hating to me. In my opinion, BB10 is not only on par with todays top platforms but it goes beyond with its new features. They've completely changed the conventional way of operating a smartphone with gestured based navigation eliminating the tiresome "in and out" of apps while intergrating all of your apps to every feature of the phone. But it can't compete because it lacks the hundred of thousads of USELESS apps? Give me a break already.
pmccartney Jan 30, 2013 at 7:35 pm
You're right.
If Apple had have released this exact device as the next iOS platform it would have been considered by many to be the greatest thing to ever grace the smartphone world.
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effort900 Jan 31, 2013 at 7:43 am
I agree - to many people drinking Apple Juice!! People are not looking at the phone for the functionality of it. They are looking at it to see how it can help kill time with using useless apps! I find it ironic that iPhone users say BB sucks but then never offer up WHY the iPhone is far surperior - what functions does the iPhone have that is a "can't live without feature" ? Someone mentioned the iPhone has a better resolution and gorilla glass ... seriously ? That's the best you can come up with ? Who give's a crap ... I think the resolution on my 9900 is just as good as my ipad 2 resolution. And I have never broken the glass on any cell phone I have ever owned and I have owned probably 20 in my life. iPhone users are afraid the admit that iPhone sucks when it comes to function - email, typing, switching between applications, editing, PDF's, etc... I am more on board with BB than ever before and beginning to despise iPhone users as totally clueless.
Mr.Black.Berry Jan 30, 2013 at 7:25 pm
And sadly I'd bet that if this phone was coming from a brand new company without the name "blackberry" on it, they'd be so ecstatic and enthused about it. Reviews would be the likes of "this new innovative os will give apple and samsung a run for the number 1 spot in mobile communication". I GARUNTEE that's what we would see if "blackberry" wasn't stamped on this product. Nevertheless, the os ui ecosystem etc will eventually speak for itself in time....
rakeem Jan 30, 2013 at 8:21 pm
Little off the line, but does anyone know what language it supports?
Browsed around some sites, but couldn't find the answer. I would like to know if it supports input of Japanese. The playbook I love still does not support Japanese input which sucks:-(
Instagram and Japanese input, once these are set, my iPhone is history! The number of apps isn't an issue. The quality is. But I know the mass market won't think like this...
mmcpher Jan 30, 2013 at 7:31 pm
"It's the BlackBerry Z10, and guess what? It's lovely, fast and efficient, bristling with fresh, useful ideas. And here's the shocker — it's complete. The iPhone, Android and Windows Phone all entered life missing important features. Not this one; BlackBerry couldn't risk building a lifeboat with leaks. So it's all here: a well-stocked app store, a music and movie store, Mac and Windows software for loading files, speech recognition, turn-by-turn navigation, parental controls, copy and paste, Find My Phone (with remote-control lock and erase) and on and on."
This, from David Pogue! No BB fan, he.
Cat San Jan 30, 2013 at 7:41 pm
What they should be comparing it too, if they wanted to be fair, is the first gen OS devices that iOS and Android brought out. Tech sites are comparing a brand new OS against OS's that have been out for 6+ years. How can that be a fair comparison? Also when they bang on about how many apps other platforms have, do they remember the days when the iPhone had none at launch and Android phones had what?, less then a hundred? Comparing the hardware is fair enough as blackberry has to build a phone that stacks up against others tech wise but the OS is new and should be reviewed as such.
AMorris71 Jan 30, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Most reviews reference the "lack" of apps. What apps are missing - Netflix? Instagram? Or is it just that they Blackberry can't stake claim to the high number of apps that other mobile OS' have? I want a smartphone that helps me work, not watch movies, post pictures, or translate Kilngon. Surely I'm not alone here. Or are there other apps that truly are missing that I'm not considering?
JPSKILLZ Jan 30, 2013 at 9:42 pm
Nope. You're right. You clearly exist outside of our dumbed down culture. LoL The thing about BB10 is that it's so powerful, it doesn't need apps! You can just open up your actual Instagram webpage, but people don't think like that.
codemaker Jan 30, 2013 at 9:50 pm
Al Sacco does a good job explaining what apps are missing for him in the CIO review. The app part is near the end. Check it out.
AMorris71 Jan 30, 2013 at 11:45 pm
Thanks for that. I did read that part of the review, but I've got to say this doesn't change my opinion: "Twitter; Foursquare; Instagram; Google+; Untappd; Facebook; Google Maps; Google Music; Amazon MP3; Amazon Kindle; Netflix; Dropbox; Kik Messenger; Spotify; Fitbit; Dunkin' Donuts payment app; and NBA Game Time" Some of these are already available, like FB & Twitter. Other than Dropbox, none of those make my list of apps I use to work. I do recognize how this will keep some from switching to Blackberry, but none of these make my list of "must-haves".
Zidentia Jan 30, 2013 at 10:02 pm
Exactly.I think BB took the road that needed traveled. The apps thy have is what I need because I need my phone to do, not play.
anfidhlear Jan 30, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Am I the only one who is wondering if all of these writers in the centre of the public eye are simply too chicken to go against the Apple/Android sheep and dare to say that they like the device?
And enough with the App whining already! I've had my PlayBook for 3 months, coming from iOS, and I totally don't miss any of it. In fact, I picked up my iTouch the other day to prep it for selling, and it felt totally alien. Alien in a bad way.
breakmedown Jan 30, 2013 at 7:52 pm
I think that what it takes is marketing. The product is obviously there. Talking to a few people who work for Sprint and Verizon, people walk in and ask for x phone or want a cheap phone. They don't care about specs, performance, whatever. They want a brand name or something their friends have. BB needs to get on that, or this won't go over any better than the last few models have.
cmdrkeen86 Jan 30, 2013 at 8:03 pm
I was complaining to my wife earlier about the release schedule for Verizon and she asked me what other phone I might want. I looked into the Galaxy SIII but when I saw that the hardware was almost EXACTLY the same as the Z10 I said I would rather wait.
I'm not into iOS and Android bores me. If I could never get a BB10 device I'd be happier with my 9930 running 7.1 than anything else out there. I am not, by any means, a fanboy, but Blackberry is in my blood at this point. It just makes sense and does exactly what I need 110% of the time.
LewLew23 Jan 30, 2013 at 8:12 pm
I'm fine with every review but the BGR one just really burns me up. I'm so glad i stopped visiting their site nearly 2 years ago, they're so biased it's ridiculous. I really don't know how people can stand to read their articles.
effort900 Jan 30, 2013 at 8:21 pm
Are people really that app happy ? For pete sakes - how many apps can one person use anyways ? I guarentee you BB10 has the most popular apps that everyone uses. So what if they don't have 50,000 apps. Who needs all that garbage anyways? I use maybe 4 on a consistant basis - Facebook, Foursquare, Twitter, Shazam and Untapped. BB10 users are not into Games!!! BB10 is a business phone still with the added bonus of like iPhone toys! #BB10 ROCKS!!
Dave79 Jan 30, 2013 at 8:50 pm
Read the review on BGR...
How come they didnt use gorilla glass? That's a bit worring..but what's really worrying is no push mail?!? I hope BGR got it wrong otherwise rim (sorry BlackBerry) is done and dusted.
BBBoldismyDRUGofChoice Jan 30, 2013 at 8:50 pm
I had a bb for a while and now made the move to android. I am lured in by blackberry. I like the company, o koke the software I like the top notch messaging. The apps are overrated imho. Not because I don't use them, cause I do. The problem for me is with any game I have had on my droid since I got it in June I play for a month. I have not had a game I play for more than a month until I get tired of it. So for that I believe blackberry doesn't need apps the likes of apple / android.
As far as the reviews outside of glitches or things they love or pike about the phone comparing it to apple or droidis silly. At this point a large number of the people writing these reviews probably have an apple or a droid. So they are used to the software as oppsed to bb10. So they are biased. It doesn't make ios better it just makes it familiar.
JPSKILLZ Jan 30, 2013 at 9:50 pm
Well said man, well said! If you take BB10's 70,000 apps (like that's a small feat and if you cut out all the USELESS apps iOS/Android would fall around 70 as well) and just run those apps on each device, BB10 would win hands down.
TheQuietRioter Jan 30, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Kevin, Can you make us a video that features the new BB10 sounds and alerts? I hope that doesnt seem petty, but this is an important function for my daily use. Thank you
omegajimes Jan 30, 2013 at 8:58 pm
Watching Josh Topolsky's review on the Verge was hilarious. I think it physically hurts him to say something good about BlackBerry. I think someone was offscreen pinching him.
I used to be a BlackBerry addict. I had a PB and 9780.
Bailed out at OS7 because the 9900 had no autofocus and the PB had no apps. I was fed up of endless debates on the forum about how apps weren't important or they were "coming".
Looks like the same debates happening today.
People just can't wait anymore. These phones are being compared to Android and Apple because that is what you can buy for the same price. My HTC One X is awsome. My Nexus 7 is awsome.
Android, Samsung and Apple aren going to stand still whilst BB catches up.
Oh and because people like to be loyal to BB, I will now be accused of being a troll for saying otherwise.
JPSKILLZ Jan 30, 2013 at 10:23 pm
Nah, just uninformed. Blackberry wasn't aiming at Apple or Android. But now that's all it's being compared to. We already won ;)
gdimarco2000 Jan 30, 2013 at 9:45 pm
Nothing new from blackberry since the first time they talked about Blackberry 10 3 month ago.
Same Demo, Same Videos.
Flash Support?
What Accounts types will the Native Email Client support?
I did not see any actual demo of the browser (Is it really faster?)
Wireless Hot spot Demo?
Possible release date?
Price range?
Possible battery life on each device?
That is why Apple is still on the top. when they do a announcement or launch they provide information. Why Blackberry cannot do the same?
maddie8211 Jan 30, 2013 at 10:18 pm
Did you actually watch the launch??? Many of those questions and concerns were answered.
JPSKILLZ Jan 30, 2013 at 10:25 pm
Just another uninformed person talking out of their....you know what. SMH
JPSKILLZ Jan 30, 2013 at 10:26 pm
There's a little something called YouTube, that you can actually just type in "Blackberry 10 versus" and see countless comparison videos. In which by the way the Browser blows ALL OTHER BROWSERS, DESKTOP, TABLET OR MOBILE OUT OF THE WATER.
Mr.Black.Berry Jan 31, 2013 at 12:23 am
Really??? Did you just crawl from under a rock or were you in a coma? Has to be 1 of the 2 for u to actually post what you just said. Lol
kozmo68 Jan 30, 2013 at 10:04 pm
The only review that currently matters to me is from a couple of our IT reps who got the chance to demo Z10. Both had good things to say and that's good enough for me. One was more complimentary then the other but over all was more positive then negative.
So I popped into the Bell World store on the way home and pre purchased my new Black, Shiny Z10.. Can't wait to pick it up on Tuesday, regardless of what these "tech experts" have to say.
.pinkberry Jan 30, 2013 at 10:29 pm
The comments on the BGR review are better than the actual review.
ismarkwright Jan 30, 2013 at 10:33 pm
I think people need to understand that there is very little "objective" media left....sponsors/advertisers purchase the good news reported about them. There is hesitancy by the major media to report anything negative about major advertisers....which is why you see constant praise about Apple.
And these same outlets are put under major pressure by advertisers like Apple to criticize their competition or they take their money else where....they have the leverage to do that. Especially in this market....no media outlet can afford to lose millions of dollars from a major advertiser like Apple.
Blackberry does not currently have the marketing budget like Apple, which makes it difficult to compete with the behemoths like Apple and Google. Apple is going to use every leverage possible with their media allies to crush the competition...thus their lap dogs are doing their best to gloss over Apple's short comings while accentuating Blackberry's "negatives". That is called business....the only thing Blackberry can do is to fight fire with fire. And that takes money....hopefully they can overcome the biased reports against them and the consumers will be their savior after seeing their product in person.
My new slogan: "Piss off the critics....buy a Blackberry!"
raymond Jan 30, 2013 at 11:10 pm
I really hope push is there. Really, really hope. Or I can have the same native email clients as on my 9900
All I really want is crossplatform videochat, my traditional email experience, and a watchespn app or functionality either on the z10 or the playbook.
Is that too much to ask?
Krumb31 Jan 30, 2013 at 11:25 pm
The New York Times actually had a pretty decent article on the Z10. Total reversal of what she was expecting.
Marauder2 Jan 30, 2013 at 11:40 pm
It seems they haven't really understood all that BB10 has to offer, and base their opinion on that. The launch left out quite a few important and amazing things, but that's not what people saw so they are not commented on.
Again, the apps deal is not as big as everyone makes it seem. Having the most powerful mobile browser on the market cuts down the amount of apps needed. I'd rather not have an app for my bank, the browser is quick and clear. I'm not saying all apps are redundant, but the whole aspect is blown out of proportion.
If these journalists took a couple weeks to really use the device, they will see how innovative it really is, especially when they return to their S3's and iPhone 5's and start swiping the screen haha
PS. If Apple had released the Remember app, every web site would claim they have innovated/revolutionised something great, like passbook...
When the Playbook came out, this site was awash with poeple saying "Yeah but the browser is great so the apps don't matter". Then RIM slashed prices and wrote off a load of stock, losing millions. It seems apps DO matter and history is repeating itself.
sulcopete Jan 31, 2013 at 12:30 am
BlackBerry got it right. It's aimed at business, corporate. The security is something that will be attractive to companies and this security is offered by no one else. The ability to wipe the business side and keep your personal stuff is a very practical issue and this WILL factor in when companies are choosing who to go with. I predict success for BlackBerry. Once the business folks jump on, others will too just so they can look like they're someone. BlackBerry has hit a home run and nobody knows it yet. Wait and see.
BlackBerry here in the UK (on National Radio) said they WEREN'T aiming at business- that will be a slow trickle effect. They are aiming at consumers primarily.
Arthur108 Jan 31, 2013 at 2:58 am
Reviewers were not very excitied!
" Nice but not enough", more or less! :(
Most consumers in the UK who are commenting on these reviews all seem to agree. It is just too expensive. You can only compete with a Galaxy S3 on price if your phone is as good as that. Even the HTC One X is struggling to compete and that has very few shortcomings compared to the BlackBerry Z10. No wonder BB shares dropped 12 points yesterday.
BBBoldismyDRUGofChoice Jan 31, 2013 at 8:58 am
As I have mentioned I really do like BlackBerry and want them to dominate. That being said they do have a problem, although I think this phone is the BEST Blackberry by far, I would say that most people would consider it to be (at best) equal with the Iphone or the SGIII. Thats a problem, it will take more than that to sway to public back.
The bigger problem that may be out there, isn't so much about what this phone is capable to do, but what the NEXT one does. If the Z10 brings Blackberry even to compitition, what happens when the SG4 comes out? Or the next well done phone, it will put BB on the back burner.
The guys at BlackBerry better already be working on their next big device. The rumored Artisto phone would be that next phone. However at some point instead of catching up to the compitition you need to surpass them.
BB's biggest problem is going to be getting people back. Even if their phone is superior to the iphone and droids it needs to be so much better that people leave their phone because of what BBs can do that their phones cant. I just don't know that BB, or any company really can put that much distance between themselves at this point.
Think about it, the iphone changed the came completely, it was something blackberrys COULDN'T do, then droids came out with things BBs couldn't do. Looking at this current BB what can it do that the iphones or droids cant? Not too much.
Yes the OS may be better, some features are better / easier, but is it something that you absolutely must have and will cause you to drop what you currently have?
That will be the tipping point for BlackBerry.
jedi_dredd Jan 31, 2013 at 3:52 pm
I would have to agree, the BGR review was something of a shock. But again i don't follow BGR so there is something to say about that.
I will also agree that it will take some time for BB to get their customers back. There are some key feature which i don't understand why they left out. BIS? for those company's that don't use exchange BIS is just as crucial. I hope they continue to work on their end and release an update to improve the OS. The device itself i think is great. I clear distinction from all the other devices out there. I will have to hold one to see exactly how it feels. I think for a new device with a new platform they have done great. It will help them to stay above the water and not drown. I can see them only gaining users.
Great Job BB!
CrackFachry Jan 31, 2013 at 10:04 pm
The BGR review sounds really biased.. But is it true that there's no Push mail for the likes of Yahoo mail/Google Mail? Those are my main email, so I'm a bit concern about it.
Also.. Does Z10 doesn't need need BIS/BES to work? Will BBM still work with no BIS./BES?
cottonakin Feb 1, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Hey Michelle,
Here is the Consumer Reports Review (they like it) if you want to add it to the other articles:
Rootbrian Feb 4, 2013 at 1:40 am
SHAME on the negative whacking reviews. I guess they didn't do any researching before even writing them. Lazy bratts.


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NEW YORK -- It's a little on the trite side, and Jeff Conine admitted as much.
But with celebrating teammates whooping it up all around him after Josh Beckett's gem gave the Marlins the World Series on Saturday night, it was all he had to give.
He was asked about manager Jack McKeon, and the question brought a few more watts into his championship grin.
"It's a cliché," Conine said, almost apologetically, "but the thing about Jack is that he talks the talk, and he walks the walk."
And the talk centered around one very simple message. It was delivered shortly after he replaced Jeff Torborg in early May.
"My first speech with them, I told them, 'Let's have fun,'" McKeon, 72, said after becoming the oldest manager/coach in any of the four major sports to win a title. "I said, 'Do the best you can, relax and have fun."
That's it?
"That's pretty much it," insisted leadoff man Juan Pierre, whose silly jig with pitcher Dontrelle Willis on a makeshift podium in the clubhouse showed the message was still being received. "He said, 'Look, this is a fun game, and you guys don't look like you're having any fun. So here's what I want you to do, and that's go out and play this game like you did when you were little kids.
"That was it, man. He just let us go and do our thing."
Beckett, the World Series MVP, echoed as much. But he shot a couple holes in the building perception that McKeon was twisting balloon animals and passing out Kandy Korn all season.
"He's a fun guy to play for," Beckett said. "But he's got some strange ways to motivate you sometimes. When I was pitching like [expletive], he wouldn't say a word to me. You know, try to get under your skin a little bit.
"But he's awesome to play for. He really is."
Beckett and Pierre are part of the nucleus of young players who responded to McKeon's methods and helped turn the Marlins around, but even the veterans appreciated the leeway and levity the manager lent.
"He's the kind of guy you want to play for," said free-agent-to-be Pudge Rodriguez, who suggested McKeon would be a factor in his decision should he return. "He lets you enjoy yourself, but he's tough when he needs to be. You need a good balance from your manager, and Jack had balance."
Conine was on the Marlins' first championship team in 1997, but was dealt after that season and didn't return until this season, in an Aug. 31 trade with the Orioles. One of the first things he noticed was how sold the team was on its skipper.
"You know right away if a team is behind [the manager] or not," Conine said. "And there was no question that these guys were behind Jack. I knew right away that he had every guy in that clubhouse ready to do whatever he said to do."
And truth be told, McKeon didn't just tell the team to get that Little League vibe back. He said he saw a tremendously talented team that just needed a tweak or two. So he told them that, too.
"I didn't feel like I needed to change everything," McKeon said. "I just needed the guys to believe that they can have fun coming to the ballpark and go out there and play relaxed baseball. Just focus a little better and work a little harder. That was about the essence of my meeting.
"Pretty soon, they started to do all those things and started winning."
And winning and winning and winning. They were underdogs to the Giants in the National League Division Series and won in four games. They were underdogs to the Cubs in the NL Championship Series and won in seven after being down three games-to-one. They were underdogs to the Yankees in the Fall Classic and won the clincher at Yankee Stadium.
"He never changed the whole way, as far as I could see," Conine said of McKeon's demeanor during the postseason. "He just stuck to his guns, threw it all out there and let us play."
Willis, who was converted from sensational starter to situational reliever for the World Series, said McKeon's treatment of him throughout the season made the postseason juggling act easier to take.
"Look at what I'm doing right now," Willis said as he poured champagne over Pierre's head. "Jack's a big part of why I'm doing it."
Pierre, wiping his eyes, said it was all about walking the talk.
"People call him Dad or Grampa or whatever," Pierre offered. "Call him what you want, but call him a great guy to play for. Call him a guy who treats his guys like men. And call him this all night: World champion, baby.
"He might be old, but he's a champion of the world, and I love him."
Mychael Urban is a
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Alternately vacillating between Long Beach State pitching ace Jered Weaver and Florida State shortstop Stephen Drew, the Padres instead stayed home.
Soon after selecting the product of local Mission Bay High School, the Padres were believed to have also signed him to a $3.1 million contract.
Weaver and Drew, two leading pre-draft darlings of draft trackers, both slipped considerably, although both were first-rounders.
Weaver, as celebrated for being the younger brother of Jeff Weaver as for his awesome breakout season, went at No. 12 to the Anaheim Angels.
Meanwhile, Drew slipped to No. 15, where he was selected by the Diamondbacks. Drew thus did join brothers J.D. and Tim -- both taken in 1997 -- to become the first set of three brothers taken in the first round.
Signability was a deciding factor for Padres general manager Kevin Towers' unexpected and intriguing choice.
Khalil Greene, San Diego's top draft pick only two years ago, is freshly entrenched as the National League West co-leaders' shortstop, but Bush is considered a versatile athlete who can easily adapt to another position.
"We are very excited about Matt Bush," said Bill "Chief" Gayton, the Padres' director of scouting. "He's a player that we've watched for several years now and we project him to perform at a high level once he reaches the Majors.
"Bush has one of the best arms I've ever scouted. He's a player who's a local talent that you rarely get an opportunity to bring into your system."
This marked San Diego's fifth No. 1 choice in the 40-year history of the draft, and its first since 1988, when the team spent it on right-hander Andy Benes.
Furthermore, the Padres reveled in owning the draft's first pick along with a share of their division's lead. That rare exacta has been enjoyed by only two other clubs in the last decade -- the Twins in 2001, when they chose catcher Joe Mauer, and the 1995 Angels, who selected Darin Erstad.
San Diego's decision launched an otherwise predictable first round that reflected scouts' assessment that this was a generally flat draft pool with relatively few standouts.
Given those circumstances, clubs tend to prefer matured college talent with a shorter path to the Majors.
Among the first 30 selections were 17 college players, of them 14 pitchers. The 13 high-school players chosen included five of the seven first-round infielders.
Indicative of the perennially changing nature of the draft, seven outfielders were first-round picks a year ago, but only two gained that status today. Texas high school outfielder Greg Golson was chosen by Philadelphia at No. 21, and five picks later the A's selected Rich Robnett from Fresno State.
Selecting second, the Detroit Tigers chose Justin Verlander, the right-hander from Old Dominion considered to have the best pure stuff of draft-eligible pitchers.
"I'm excited, ready for the process to take course," said Verlander, who went 7-5 in 15 starts with a fastball that occasionally crowds triple-figures.
Going third and fourth were moundmates in the rotation of defending College World Series champion Rice University.
The New York Mets tabbed Philip Humber, a 13-game winner whose breaking ball is rated as the best in Rice's abundantly talented rotation.
Jeff Niemann, the Owls' undefeated ace of 2003 who was held back by a groin injury this season, was chosen by the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.
The 6-foot-9, 260-pound intimidator was a modest 5-3 this season, but prior to his injury he was a popular candidate for Player of the Year honors. Last season, he posted a dominating 17-0 record.
Choosing fifth, the Milwaukee Brewers picked Mark Rogers, a right-handed pitcher who is a two-time Maine Player of the Year and throws 98-mph heat.
Vanderbilt's Jeremy Sowers became the first left-handed pitcher selected when he was Cleveland's pick at No. 6.
A rare young southpaw who relies on pinpoint control, Sowers is a former first-round draft choice of the Reds, who made him the overall No. 20 choice in 2001.
At No. 7, the Reds chose Homer Bailey of LaGrange (Texas) High School.
Bailey, who pairs a hard curve with a 97-mph fastball, enjoyed an 11-0 senior season in which he fanned 157 in 66 innings, with only nine walks.
Wade Townsend, the last leg of Rice's notable mound triad, went to the Orioles at No. 8.
One of five finalists for the 2004 Golden Spikes Award, Townsend recently completed the regular season with a perfect 11-0 record, accompanied by an ERA of 1.68.
Wayne Graham, the 67-year-old former Mets third baseman and coach of the Owls, realizes he is bidding farewell to a once-in-a-lifetime staff. But he also realizes he will be watching his proteges in The Show.
"They're as good as Clemens and Pettitte were at the same stage of their careers," said Graham, heaping high praise. "They have pretty much the same projectability as Clemens when he was a junior at Texas. Clemens probably had better command and less stuff than our guys."
Chris Nelson of Redan High School in Stone Mountain, Calif., became the second prep shortstop chosen when the Rockies tabbed him at No. 9.
A solid contact hitter with wide range at the position, Nelson is a converted pitcher who came off the mound following Tommy John surgery.
Rounding out the top 10, the Rangers chose the aptly named Thomas Diamond, a junior right-hander whose mid-90s fastball has movement that has been compared to that of Roger Clemens.
Neil Walker, Pittsburgh's choice at No. 11, is the son of former big-leaguer Tom Walker. He has left a trail of damage as catcher for Pine Richland High School in Gibsonia, Pa., where he is batting .580.
Wolfson High School in Jacksonville, Fla., boasts a pair of first-round picks. Third baseman Billy Butler was chosen No. 14 by the Royals, and the Rangers ended the opening round by selecting his teammate, right-hander Eric Hurley.
Interest in this year's first round was high because of the quick ascension of several selections in last June's draft.
Ryan Wagner pitched for Cincinnati on July 19, Chad Cordero pitched for Montreal on Aug. 30, and Rickie Weeks played for Milwaukee on Sept. 15.
That marked the first time since 1978 that three players reached the Majors in the season of their draft. Then, it had been the Braves' Bob Horner, Mike Morgan and Tim Conroy of the A's, Brian Milner of Toronto and the White Sox's Britt Burns.
Who's got next?
Adjudged closest to reaching the Majors is Taylor Tankersley, a hard-throwing left-handed reliever off Alabama's staff, who was taken No. 27 by the Marlins.
Tom Singer is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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But Blalock had his All-Star Most Valuable Player vote reserved for the third American Leaguer to homer, his Rangers teammate Alfonso Soriano. And Soriano's two-hit night did, in fact, win him the award, selected by a combination of media and fan voting.
"That was great," declared Blalock. "We were so proud of him, representing the Rangers and having a great game and winning the MVP. That's something else."
Soriano became the second Ranger (Julio Franco in 1990) to win the All-Star MVP. All smiles in his postgame press conference, he seemed grateful for his friends' congratulations, though not surprised.
"They are always nice to me," he said. "They are young and they are always with me, so they are close to me. I think they are happy, and Kenny, too, and everyone in the clubhouse."
Francisco Cordero did not get to pitch in the game due a high pitch count in Boston on Sunday. But Soriano's exploits had Cordero jubilant nonetheless, and apparently a touch envious.
"I'm jealous," said the Rangers closer as he joked with reporters. "He got the trophy. So now he's the MVP, but he's my teammate though."
Shortstop Michael Young got to play the fifth inning with his regular infield partner, and had a feeling Soriano would win.
"I think right when he got that second hit, I had a feeling that he was probably the front runner at the time. Towards the end of the game I knew when we were shaking hands, it had to have been Sori. I'm happy for him. He deserves it. He's a great guy and a great player, and he earned it."
Young, Soriano, and Blalock all stressed a need to put the All-Star euphoria behind them and get to the business of maintaining their place atop the AL West in the season's second half.
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Mark Martin hosts the annual Ice Fishing Vacation School held on Lake Gogebic in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. / John McArdle/For Wisconsinoutdoorfun.com
Earlier this month I was lucky enough to attend (as well as photograph and write about) Mark Martin and his Ice Fishing Vacation School held on Lake Gogebic in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. It was a fabulous event and its difficult to decide what to write about so soon after attending the school. My mind is still swimming through many thoughts and ideas for blog posts and columns.
One thing I know for sure is that If anyone wanted to up their game on the ice, this was the place to be. Mark Martin, Team Canadas Joe Giuliani and Norm Thorkilson and Captain Tim Long, guide and owner of the Timbers Resort, were all on-hand to lead and teach more than 20 students and writers on Lake Gogebic. Other Pro Staff members included Dean Carlie, Jeff Sowa, Brandon Carpenter, Wisconsins own Nick Shertz and Todd Sokolow.
The weather was definitely a factor as we took to the ice for two-and-one-half days of fishing. Howling winds and white-out conditions pounded us for much of the event, but it didn't bother anyone in the School. As for the fish, they seemed to love the conditions and cooperated just as well as the students (and in some cases better).
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Every day I toured the Otter ice shanties and snapped photo after photo of people catching fish all over the lake. Many people shy away from the outdoors when faced with harsh conditions, but Mark Martin and his crew went at it like it was a walk in the park. Above are some great photos from the Ice Fishing School.
Mark the Professional:
How does a person write about a guy that has a list of accomplishments a mile long? The Mark Martin Fishing Vacation School is the longest running school of its kind but the School is just one aspect of his career. Mark is the 1990 Professional Walleye Trail World Champion. He won the first PWT Tournament of Champions held at International Falls, Minnesota netting him $30,000. That was the highest cash prize in history for a walleye tournament at that time and has earned him the distinction of being "The Original Champ."
Along with being a tournament fisherman, Mark is also an instructor, captain, guide, and seminar speaker. As a fishing promoter, he loves giving back to an industry that has given so much to him. Observing Martin at work for three days, Mark has an engine inside him that doesn't quit. We were all up at 5 a.m. We fished all day long and finished our roundtable meetings every night around 9:30 p.m. Indicative of a true professional, as we faced brutal winds and white out conditions, Mark always had a smile on his face and a positive attitude about the day.
The Lake:
Just as Lake Winnebago is special to Wisconsin, Lake Gogebic is the largest inland lake in Michigan. The lake features over 13,000 acres of water and is full of walleye, small mouth bass, northern pike and mammoth size perch. Captain Tim, owner of the Timbers Resort, refers to the lake as a Little Winnebago.
Lake Gogebic has a large weedy bay (Berglund Bay) which flows into the main basin of the lake. The main basin of Gogebic is a mud flat and the structure is towards and on the shores. In the winter, as Berglund Bays ice and snow increase, the oxygen level decreases and the fish find their way into the mud flats. Just like on Lake Winnebago, summertime offers the angler a multitude of techniques to catch fish. Like Wisconsins rule, Michigan fishermen are allowed three lines and motor trolling is permitted on Lake Gogebic.
The Resort:
Accommodations for the Mark Martin Ice Fishing Vacation School were provided by Timbers Resort on the north end of Lake Gogebic in Berglund, Michigan. Located in the western end of the Upper Peninsula, the year round resort offers 11 fully furnished cabins. They also offer RV and tent camping near the lake and two huge piers for customers to dock their boats. Tim Long and his wife Sara are originally from Wisconsin and are remarkable hosts. The first day I met Tim, he and I talked like we were old time friends. Being from Wisconsin himself, he was eager to teach me about the lake and its surroundings.
The Ice fishing School:
The school itself is comprised of three days of fishing and classroom and students should come prepared to learn. Mark reminds his students in a matter-of-fact way that, "If youre not going to do it our way, you will be staying on shore. He points out to the class that he has made a lifetime of mistakes for them" and that now is the time to start doing things the correct way.
Whether it is the size of the swivel, choice of rod or maybe how to hook the minnow, paying attention to these details are at the top of his learning list. The topic of setting the hook was my favorite discussion at the school and Mark explains that you cant set the hook too hard. Martin stated, You have to take them off their fins and get them through the hole before the fish knows what happened.
Mark the Teacher:
When youre at the Ice Fishing Vacation School, Mark will ask you to drill a hole right outside your ice shanty door. Then as the day progresses Mark makes his rounds to all the shanties to give a one-on-one demonstration right at your shanty door. He'll offer a jigging tip, or share a hook setting tip or a quick lesson on how to read your electronics. Mark leans on a lifetime of knowledge and experience to teach all aspects of ice fishing. A pesky fish keeps stealing your minnow? Mark will stop over to see if he can catch it.
At one point, I asked Pro Staffer Brandon Carpenter to give me a tutorial on a Lowrance Elite-5X DSI Sonar. Mark, Brandon and I were all huddled in our Otter lodge looking at the sonar, Brandon reached to adjust the screen and we saw a fish appear on the electronics. Mark pounds his Rapala a few times on the bottom and somehow set the hook into a 25-inch northern and flopped it on the ice.
In all my 30-plus years of fishing, that was the best play-by-play lesson a person could ever ask for! Several times throughout the day, Mark caught fish while demonstrating different techniques at students' ice holes that left even his Pro Staff chuckling.
Mark's Pro Staff:
I would be remiss if I didnt mention the pro staff.
Its not a one man show for Martin. I have assembled the greatest Pro Staff around and they are here to help you. he told his class. I personally had the pleasure to room with Canadian pro staff members Joe Giuliani and Norm Thorkilson and when I saw a guitar come through the door of the cabin I knew I was in for some fun. You know what I mean, eh!
If anyone has been curious about ice fishing or wants to up their game you need to come join Mark at his schools. There were a few students in attendance that were as new as it gets to ice fishing and they left the class with a grin from ear to ear. Money well spent was the common consensus among attendees as they all left for home.
If you missed this session and are interested in attending one of the next two schools, here are the dates:
Cadillac/Mitchell, Cadillac, Michigan on Jan. 20-23
Saginaw Bay, Linwood, Michigan on Feb. 10-13
For more information visit the Fishing Vacation School site and drop Mark a line.
I received some great news recently when Mark called and said he wants to add me to his Media Pro Staff. Im busting at the seams with more information, stories and photos from the school and I will share them in my upcoming posts!
John McArdle is a life-long resident of Fond Du Lac and blogs about fishing adventures in the great state of Wisconsin. Anything from trout fishing the Driftless Area to sturgeon spearing on Lake Winnebago, John will provide stories ,tips and photos of his FINtastic adventures in Wisconsin!