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Read this: 11 national news outlets cover SF's tech culture war
12.20.13 - 5:39 pm | Joe Fitzgerald Rodriguez |
Screenshot of Fox News "The Willis Report" with Gerri Willis.
Those of us in the Bay Area have long followed the rising rents, floods of evictions, and growing resentment between long-time Bay Area residents and the new tech elite. Now it seems the national media is catching on. National reporting of the Bay Area class war is on the rise.
We've rounded up some of the more colorful coverage, which runs the gamut of different perspectives (even among the so-called "objective" news outlets). Some say the resentment is understandable, some say the blame against techies is misplaced. Some, like The Huffington Post, reached out to protesters for interviews, while others simply reblogged local reporters' Tweets and video - including the Guardian's.
Regardless of which of the articles you most agree with, the one thing we can all agree on is that things are changing fast. Just this week, Mayor Ed Lee announced his plan to prioritize and streamline construction of affordable housing in San Francisco. And the mayor's pal, Ron Conway, announced via a press release today that local tech/government partnership group SF.citi will form three committees to address rising inequality in San Francisco: one on housing (led by SPUR's Gabriel Metcalf), another on philanthropy (shaking down rich peeps for cash), and another on education (hoping to form a tech pipeline from SFUSD to SFSU to jobs).
But why blockade the tech employee's buses? Why not protest the mayor instead?
"People say 'you should protest city hall!'" organizer Leslie Dreyer told us. She had a large hand in organizing the first Google bus protest that blew up in the national press last week. There's a problem with that, she said.
It didn't work.
"We did that every day," she said. "No one noticed us until we protested a Google bus. There's a tension when you take it to the street."
Maybe the national press gave Mayor Lee the nudge he needed. Decide for yourself. Below are a few examples of the national news outlets highlighting the Bay Area's growing inequality, covering the first tech bus protests last week, and today's.
NPR: Income inequality in the San Francisco Bay Area
National Public Radio didn't just do one article on the Google bus protests, they used the first incident as a catalyst for a weeklong series on inequality in the Bay Area. Kudos to them for going a step beyond the protest, and digging into the issues that prompted it in the first place.
One of their best pieces covers Manny Cardenas, a security guard at Google.
"Cardenas says it is strange being on Google's campus, watching the regular employees drive around on company-supplied bikes and scooters and taking food home.
'You feel like you're different,' he says. 'Even though you're working in the same place, you're still like an outsider. And it's weird because you're actually protecting these people.'"
New York Times: Google bus vandalized during protest
The Times covered the growing inequality before the protests, but followed up with a few quick pieces on the tech bus rallies in San Francisco as well. Their take featured tweets from the tech community itself, who continued to hammer home on the point that the tech buses help take cars off the road. Uh techies, hate to tell you, but the point of the protests is not about taking you out of your buses, but about paying your fair share, like the robotic voices on the Muni buses tell us to do every day.
The Times previous bus protest coverage and their previous coverage on San Francisco gentrification.
My Gbus got hit by protesters in Oakland and they broke a window. pic.twitter.com/VGCyhBLgyd
— Craig Frost (@craigsfrost) December 20, 2013
Fox News: San Francisco Residents Protest Google's Buses
Talk about missing the point, Fox News program "The Willis Report" coverage of the tech bus protests is blissfully comical. Watch Tamara Holder, the one female commenter, have to explain she knows what the word "pithy" means. Oh boy.
From the program:
"Google is a national treasure, a force for good. San Francisco should be really glad its people work at Google, yet now they're beating up on the company… I'm trying to find it hard to understand the resentment. It just seems like it's resenting Google because its employees are rich."
We only wish Jon Stewart would've covered this silliness.
Salon: SF Protesters block Google bus
Salon approaches the issue from a "Google is smarmy and weird," perspective, touching on the idea that maybe the class war is a culture war as well.
"If you've had the misfortune of watching "The Internship" — the most profound artifact of brand placement in cinema history — you'll have been told that Google, and its ruling ideology of "Googliness," is nothing if not purportedly a warm and cozy vector of innovation, with its own internal, coddled ecosystem."
HuffPost Tech: Protesters Block Google Bus, Demand $1 Billion
This Huffpost piece is notable for the video at the top of the page, featuring an interview with local activist Erin McElroy, the leader of the Anti-Eviction Mapping Project. The piece also actually tries to explore the tech bus non-payment of city fines for using bus stops, something some of the other pieces completely avoid altogether.
"The protest centered around Google's use of the city's Muni bus stops for the last two years -- a practice that protesters allege is illegal and would total $1 billion in owed fines. Activists from the San Francisco Displacement and Neighborhood Impact Agency stalled an employee-filled Google Bus at the corner of 24th and Mission Streets for approximately half an hour on Monday morning with mock traffic signs citing the shuttles for illegal use of public infrastructure."
CNET: Fake Google employee's fight with protesters we wish was true
CNET took a look at the antics of Max Bell Alper, whose "theatrics" in posing as a Google employee arguably helped catapult the conversation on Bay Area's tech driven inequality into the national spotlight. Nick Statt makes this observation about Alper:
"...what Alper did was something special. He lied to us, and in doing so, got us all to start throwing rocks and then look only at each other when the mirror shattered. Mission accomplished."
This situation is getting more and more complicated - @google bus hijacked again in housing crisis protest pic.twitter.com/eloeUvrafV
— Ken Ken Ramen (@KenKenRamen) December 20, 2013
Wall Street Journal: Fake Protest Spawns Real Outrage
One of the few outlets to play it straight, the Wall Street Journal's new reporter Nathan Olivarez-Giles (a Missionite himself) pointed out that Alper is no San Franciscan, and highlighted the differing opinions among the protesters of his "theatrics."
"Deepa Varma, a lawyer with the group Eviction Free San Francisco and an organizer of the bus protest, said the protesters have mixed feelings about Alper's staged outburst.
'We didn't know that was going to happen and it's too bad because the point was really to connect the housing crisis to the tech industry,' Varma said.
Google did not respond to a request for comment."
Max Bell Alper, not as clever as he thinks he is. http://t.co/bTptVLSWbj
— Derek Powazek (@fraying) December 9, 2013
Honorable mentions: Missing the point
These three outlets make the argument that the protesters anger is misplaced, and should rally against government, not techies, instead. But as we've pointed out, that doesn't tend to get attention, whereas protesting techies does (or else these three outlets likely wouldn't have written stories in the first place).
The Wire: A fake fight at a real protest blames the wrong people for a serious problem
Slate: Protesters surround Google bus in San Francisco. Obnoxiousness ensues.
Wired: In This Silicon Valley Tech Culture and Class War, We're Fighting About the Wrong Things
The Peter Shih Effect
— Susie Cagle (@susie_c) December 10, 2013
The Atlantic Cities: Why I'm Not Embarrassed to Have Been Fooled by the Google Bus Protest Hoax
In this piece for The Atlantic Cities, Sarah Goodyear points out that with real tech haters like Peter Shih (though now we have Greg Gopman too) referring to San Francisco women as "49ers" (4's who think they're 9's) and saying our foggy weather is "PMSing," buying Max Bell Alper's Google employee impersonation wasn't all that much of a stretch.
But she takes it the next step further, and tries to build bridges between all involved.
"Will the next generation of tech entrepreneurs abandon the suburban campus model that makes Google buses necessary? We'll have to wait to find out, although the rise of the tech sector in New York – where public transportation and pedestrian culture are more robust than anywhere else in the United States, and the bubble of privilege is less impermeable – may be one indication that things are changing.
In the meantime, the obnoxious tech guy who wasn't a hoax, Peter Shih, did try to make amends. After his offending entry on Medium came down, Shih posted a note of apology on the site:
'I don't deserve any forgiveness for the stupidity of my actions and words, but I sincerely hope to demonstrate by my future behavior to humbly build up and not tear down the communities and people around me.'
I'm inclined to give Shih the benefit of the doubt, and Alper, too. Not to mention myself. We're all just trying to figure this out, after all. And sometimes it's the mistakes you make that teach you the most."
Undoubtedly a new slew of articles will follow today's protests, as the smashed windows of an Oakland Google bus are the ultimate media bait. Post any new articles you'd like in the comments below.
"the point of the protests is not about taking you out of your buses, but about paying your fair share"
Which they have agreed to do, per an agreement negotiated with the city. The journalists covering the story have all documented that fact. The SFBG prefers to leave it out as much as possible.
When pushed, the SFBG will say "Yes, but they haven't agreed to pay MORE than their fair share".
Posted by Guest on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 6:11 pm
non sense.
It is interesting that the left insist that FOX news watchers are stupid and easily manipulated.
Posted by Matlock on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 6:41 pm
Haven't seen it yet. All I see is hundreds of private buses illegally using public bus stops to subsidize their exclusive transit systems.
Talk of an agreement only became public after last week's action. The parties are negotiating it while excluding the most important actors, public transit users and neighborhood residents.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 7:59 pm
if SFMTA has agreed to it, implicitly or explictly. Implicit could be as simple as telling DPT not to ticket such buses.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 7:43 am
Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter need to chip in $200m each towards the $800m for electrifying CalTrain and run shuttles to and from CalTrain stations so their employees can ride public transit just like everyone else.
Posted by marcos on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 6:48 pm
Absolutely. They need to give us money and do what we tell them to do. It's sort of like a stick up, only without a real gun.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 6:59 pm
Such a collective investment would be good for the businesses involved as well as good PR in the region where public investment gave them their leg up to success.
Posted by marcos on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 7:10 pm
I'm guessing, not at all, because you are not at all convincing.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 7:41 pm
If these firms are seeing their reputations damaged by these protests, then it might be worth their while to pay up and invest in local regional transit infrastructure.
Posted by marcos on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 7:59 pm
those who think it is appropriate to hold people hostage in a blocked bus.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 7:44 am
People used to think of Google as an example of a good corporate citizen; now they're primarily thought of as a company that sells your information to the NSA. I'm weaning myself off in favor of DuckDuckGo. Now add "agents of gentrification" to the list of things Google is associated with.
Posted by Greg on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 8:03 am
And for $200m each, relative chump change for Apple, Google, Facebook and Twitter, they could invest in connecting BART Millbrae with BART to San Jose via an electrified CalTrain and do more to salvage their reputations than contributing as much to nonprofit poverty charities.
Posted by marcos on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 10:17 am
Now you want private trains as well as private buses?
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 11:05 am
No, I want for Google, Facebook, Apple and Twitter to each contribute $200m to electrify public transit, CalTrain. Give 'em a tax write-off for the contribution.
Posted by marcos on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 8:08 pm
There is already CalTrain, SamTrans and the shuttles.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 22, 2013 @ 3:53 pm
That 50 people come out and protest. Or that the other 799.950 people in this city did not?
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 11:12 am
You think that the other 799,950 people fully support the tech companies just because they didn't show up to the protest?
That's quite a stretch.
Posted by Yo on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 4:52 pm
bother showing up and so, like people who do not show up to vote, we can only assume that they don't worry about tech companies and whatever evil you think they cause.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 22, 2013 @ 3:52 pm
Yeah, I remember when NSA-Google used to have a good reputation. Not anymore. I'm also on DuckDuckGo. Only rarely use NSA-Google. And they've completely ruined UTube. The "You" has been taken out of it and the most recent change has been by connecting NSA-Google Plus with UTube and people hate it.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 11:24 pm
I agree with you about the other three though. They all can easily afford it.
If they didn't all dodge taxes through the dubious and possibly illegal Double Irish With A Dutch Sandwich and other tax avoidance strategies, we would have already collected the taxes we are owed. Right now the money is sitting overseas, where no one can get at it.
Posted by GlenParkDaddy on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 7:55 pm
I see only perfectly legal tax strategies.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 7:44 am
Excellent idea, since these techies refuse to live close to these companies where they work (Google, Apple and FB). Even though Twitter is in SF, they are receiving generous corporate welfare from the city, and contributing nothing of value, so they should also be required to chip in $200m.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 1:03 am
and companies widely separated by geography. But good on you for hitting all the right buzz words.
Marcos suggested companies in the Valley contribute towards paying for electrifying Cal Train because they would benefit from it, something one can disagree with but still admit there's logic there. While you take the next progressive leap and suggest Twitter be forced to pay as well, since in your mind "it doesn't produce anything of value" (those using Twitter to organize protests - like Iranian and Syrian dissidents & the SFBG would beg to differ). Twitter's stockholders would also disagree. So would its employees.
And you wonder why people look askance at progressives gathering with their begging bowls out - their entitlement mentality never ends.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 1:35 am
And you wonder why people look askance at corporate techie companies gathering with their begging bowls out - their corporate welfare entitlement mentality never ends.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 3:55 am
different from receiving welfare.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 11:13 am
I agree. Marcos has a really good idea. Agree with your comment about Twitter. It is such a waste of time (a lot of silly people writing silly sayings). I don't use it for anything. A friend of mine was trying to use it for marketing, but got nothing out of it. He said that it seems like it's mainly robots on there. Other people he talked with in the same business field through acquaintances had the same dead results. They abandoned Twitter too.
I go to Indymedia/Independent Media Center for protest news and protest organizing news. One doesn't need Twitter for that. Indymedia have been around since 1999. It's also international.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 3:41 am
"I go to Indymedia/Independent Media Center for protest news and protest organizing news. One doesn't need Twitter for that."
Yeah, a protest can be organized on any message forum, including the Bay Guardian's message forum as well as through people's email connections. You don't need a corporate site where you are limited to 140 characters or less and where the company has never made a profit for that!
related: Twitter: Why Twitter's IPO Was Really A Failure
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 4:32 pm
Where do you live and where do you work? It's the damn Bay AREA, a metropolitan area, where people commute all over the place for work, for school, for church or doctors appointments, for all sorts of reasons. And it's everyone's right to live where they want and work where they want. If you want to start restricting that right, you had damn well better ensure you will NEVER have to travel more than a few miles on a bike to get anywhere you need or want to go, or you are a hypocrite.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 9:29 pm
>>>since these techies refuse to live close to these companies where they work (Google, Apple and FB).<<<
The "Green Concept" seems to go way over most people's head, in part, because it would require a change in their life/behavior and most people simply aren't willing to change their life/behavior. They'd rather commute for hours, sit in gridlock, etc. and then whine about it.
But there's one company:
By Paying Employees To Live Near The Office, Imo Cuts Commutes, Ups Happiness
"The messaging company offers $500 a month towards housing within a five-mile radius. Goodbye gridlock, hello walking shoes."
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 10:53 pm
What the hell does that mean?
Those "techies" you smear are people. People who pay their rent, pay their taxes, spend their money locally, try to make a lives for themselves in a neighborhood that they like. They're human beings, just trying to get by. What are they supposed to be "paying" that they're not?
In other news, lovely to see that taking people hostage is now the way to get attention. How long before someone decides to throw something more than a brick through one of these bus windows? It only takes one unhinged person.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 6:53 pm
The "non-techies" (aka unentitled masses) YOU smear are people too. People who pay their rent, pay their taxes, spend their money locally, try to make a lives for themselves in a neighborhood that they like. They're human beings, just trying to get by.
Why are they paying for what the techies are not?
I would hardly categorize a small disruption in schedule "hostage taking".
In other news:
I do love the irony of the workers who are "Changing the world through disruption" (creating a new grill cheese apps, etc) are miffed at personally having their lives "disrupted" for 30 minutes".
Posted by Guest on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 7:20 pm
in this context.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 11:17 am
at any time.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 22, 2013 @ 9:45 am
"The passengers were free to leave at any time."
Exactly. The tech people were on their way to work, a group of people chose to block their way and prevent their bus from continuing.
But the people on the bus could have simply gotten off and found another way to get to work.
So how could anyone realistically have any problem with that?
Posted by C.C.P. on Dec. 22, 2013 @ 11:03 am
you went to the protest, isn't it also true that you could have found another way to the protest?
Even though of course you would have been massively inconvenienced and might have been very late arriving?
I do not think you would be happy to be treated the same way you seem to think that these workers should be treated.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 22, 2013 @ 2:04 pm
"one on housing (led by SPUR's Gabriel Metcalf)"
This is something Mayor Lee has wanted forever. The "Progressives" have always tried to block market rate housing, they are going to hate this. SPUR is in the in pocket of developers and will ask for zoning and other regulations to be relaxed so that developers can build more.
"another on philanthropy (shaking down rich peeps for cash)"
Of course, many already do give, but it never hurts to ask for more. Maybe they can get that busybody Ron Conway to squeeze some of his rish friends.
"and another on education (hoping to form a tech pipeline from SFUSD to SFSU to jobs)"
Another thing that Progressives are going to hate: they absolutely hate it when workers get good, high paying jobs with decent benefits at companies like Google and Apple.
So it looks like these protests are going to spur The City in the direction the business leaders have wanted to push it all along.
I am not the biggest fan of Mayor Ed Lee, but you have to admire how well he has handled this.
Posted by GlenParkDaddy on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 7:52 pm
So true (and funny). "Progressives"
Posted by Guest on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 8:29 pm
No progressive I know believes this stuff. We want good jobs with good benefits, both in the public and private sector. There's nothing I'd like more than for the private sector to provide better wages and benefits.
But not everyone can have a job like that, and we want to make sure that people who don't are protected as well. I don't see why that's so hard to understand.
Posted by Greg on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 9:54 pm
Where you live and how appropriate that is to your earning power IS a choice.
Help the disabled and the old. Don't help someone who just wants a cheap rent to live in a cool desirable city that he cannot afford.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 11:15 am
But you don't want to help the people whose lives they disrupt. I get it.
Posted by Greg on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 9:03 pm
They pay a lot of tax.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 22, 2013 @ 3:51 pm
Don't even try to figure *that* out.
Some of the people on here have got to be on the payroll of some tech company(ies) because nothing else can explain their idolization and hero worship of tech. They're also the same people who idolize, worship and glorify this mayor who they see as above reproach and who can do no wrong, no matter what he does. (There's a word for that but it's not coming to me at the moment.)
Posted by Guest on Dec. 22, 2013 @ 11:24 pm
"I am not the biggest fan of Mayor Ed Lee, but you have to admire how well he has handled this."
Oh yes, absolutely splendidly. I've personally loved his speeches where he used lots and lots of words but said nothing.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 4:55 am
1) He hasn't made more of this than it is. A few ragged protesters do not represent a majority, nor probably any of the 73% who support Lee.
2) He wants to work with tech to improve things, and not punish them for being successful
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 11:16 am
He does like to talk doesn't he? And after you cut through all that bull shit, lies and newspeak he spews, his message is: "I work for the Tech Industrial Complex, my venture capitalist friends and that's all I care about. Period. I toss some pretty words to other people whom I despise and want out of the city during the same empty speeches and some people fall for that. Then the people from my campaign and my staff get on message forums and absolutely gush over me and urgently rush to defend any criticism of me whatsoever."
The weak among us really can't stand any criticism of one's politician(s).
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 5:00 pm
is that his approval ratings are falling fast because of the affordability crisis. And now I understand why Latterman hastily put together an online poll, shoddily done as it was, on behalf of the Chamber of Commerce. Ed Lee could well lose the next election if this continues.
Posted by Greg on Dec. 20, 2013 @ 7:57 pm
I look forward to Mayor Ammiano taking office. YES! He will restore honor, dignity and integrity to the office that's been lacking for some time.
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 6:41 am
Mayor Ammiano Sylvester,
Thuffering thucotash
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 11:34 am
Posted by Guest on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 7:45 am
Did you not read the link in your rush to post a response?
Posted by Greg on Dec. 21, 2013 @ 8:20 am
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Cub ?? Headlight and connector
I rebuilt the headlights that came on my '55 cub, and have a few questions:
1. Is this a CUB headlight? and if it is not, what does it belong on?
2. I do know the two halves of the connector come apart, but the female half will not fit throught the hood hole. I would like to be able to have the wires from the headlight long enough to go through the hood and THEN have a second quick-disconnect. This would give her a cleaner external appearance and future hood removal would be less difficult. Do the connectors inside that rubber boot come out so new wires may be soldered on? (So far they do not want to be pushed or pulled out)
3. If I cannot replace these wire stubs with longer ones, anyone know where I can get the female half that is wired to the supply wire?
The lights work fine, but when I had some work done on her, the guys just cut the wires making them even shorter than they were. Just don't want the splice to be out from under the hood.
Dale Finch
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The originals had wire that screwed on to the light so they could be removed through the hood holes. You could use a couple of spade connectors under the hood that won't be seen to disconnect when you need to remove the hood. That way you just disconnect the connectors each time instead of cutting the wire.
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Yes the connectors will come out with a small flat bladed screwdriver. You may need to replace them but NAPA carries them.
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Almost appear to be NAPA work or hook up lights adapted to IH headlight use.
Since the mounting studs are in the wrong position, and being that your tractor appears to be in very, very good condition, I would personally spend the money on an oem or good used correct set.
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It is a cub headlight, but would not have been on a 1955 model cub originally, your Cub would have had a pancake style headlight like this:
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That is a GREAT tip because I have some connectors but the wires are too short to reuse. Now I won't have to find more connectors or just simply use the standard crimp-on ones and not have the factory look. THANKS!
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It is a Cub headlight (and also used on the Farmall 140 and some others). Your tractor would have the Pancake style light originally, and the light you have would have been on a Cub or 140 built in the 1960's (not sure when exactly) up until 1979. I would definitely go with the original lights. OEM sells them with the bulb, and I have some really nice used ones if you're intrested. Here are some pictures of the light you have on the later model tractors. The Cub is a 1978 model and I know for a fact it's original and the hood hasn't ever been removed. The Farmall 140 is a 1973 model and it had the original wiring and lights. Hope this helps!!
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I have lights on a 76 cub and 64 cub that looks like yours except the rim or band that tightens around the bulb is not as wide as yours. The mounting stud looks the same, and the wiring connection is the same I believe. They do unplug and you can replace the wires and connectors. Your lights may have come from a 140. Your 55 cub looks great and would be even better with original pancake style headlights.
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Those lights were only made in 12v and found on later Cubs and other IH tractors and combines. They also were used on the Cub Cadet original. They were made by Guide and are very good quality lights. You can change the sealed beam to 6v no problem.
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Something doesn't quite look right for a 12V Guide light... But it could just be me. The company name is stamped in about the center of the rear. IH used them right up to the end, but the real late ones had a rubber ring. Guess I will look again.
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Here is a photo of two (2) new in box #376849 R91 12Volt headlights I bought for the 1968 International LoBoy we had a few years back.
The lens had "GE" in the center.
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Forget about the lights....That paint job looks great!! Thanks, Steve K.
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I did figure out how to press out the spade connectors from the socket tonight, and that is exactly the right connector I need. THANKS!!
Now I need to decide if it is worth rebuilding a pair of pancake lights I bought at Boss' this year just to have the "proper " lights. Always something, eh?!
Dale Finch
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12-volt lamps. There were 2 brands, parts do not interchange between then.
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I am currently working on a 1969 International Cub C60 and I am looking for headlights that are round with the two blade style connector and one work/rail light that is round with the three blade style connector. All the ones I have found so far are either pancake or tear drop style and have the one wire connector. Can anyone help me by telling me if anyone makes these style headlights and have them for sale?
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Thanks for all the input.
I greatly appreciate all the help.
The winner is: Matched Set 20-gauge/.22LR/.243 Win, Youth Size
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We use .243's here in WKY.
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Great choice! A simple spacer will lenghten the stock if it is too short for you.
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I got the perfect rifle for you!!
get a .308....Minimum recoil and light weight. Shoot far and does the job. My wife loves it and my 12 y/o boys shoot it well and like it too.
All listed are great but if you are looking for that all around perfect rifle, then I ould suggest a .308...Remington Model 700 or the cheaper model but stilla great rifle is the model 710 remington. These two models come in an assortment of calibers ranging from .223 to .338.
You can't go wrong here!!
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I shoot an odd ball round that I think has all the makings of a good all around riffle. I shoot a 260, it is a necked down 308.
It is a flat shooter with little recoil and lots and lots of punch. I shot a 275 pound mule dear two years ago at 180 yards and knock that guy clean off his feet. He thrashed around a little but could not get up. I also shot a 180 pound mule dear
At 150 or so yard and knock that sucker off his feet too.
The riffle is a Browning Medallion A bolt, light weight and compacted. It is a great gun.
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You could try this:http://www.frikid.com/showVideo.php?lid=1207....... It will take out pretty much any critter that moves .......... on the other hand, the recoil might be a tad on the heavy side
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Mark, use what you can afford. I've killed them with .22 to 30-30 to 9mm pistol, to cap & ball revolers.44 cal.
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go with the 270. fail safe bullets hollow point nice range and great knock down with a little kick. kick isn't bad in a game kill but is a good lil thump in target practice, that'll make you respect it. i'll throw props out to BROWNING, i shoot one with a Buasch and lomb 3x9x40 scope and i have shot a beer cap at a hundred yards. the shoot was just a tick to the right but close to center.
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The 30-30 lever has probably killed more deer to this day than all the other calibers added up. It has to be one of the most popular deer rifles too. The 30-30 has also taken many blackbears too. Second to the 30-30 would be the remington 35 in a lever action too. I'm sure you can find these used in good condtion too.
The surplus military guns in 6,5mm swede and in 7mm mauser also make great hunting rifles too. They use the 6,5mm swede in europe to hunt reindeer and moose. The 7mm mauser is one of the most flastest shooting rounds there is. Our 30-06 was copied from it. These two have very little recoil and the 7mm mauser has a lot of power too. Both are very accurate rounds too.
The russian mosin 91/30's in 7,62x54r can still be found at around $100. These are also good guns too. The power is between the 308 and 30-06. You can buy the 203gr soft point bullets for under $10 a box(barnaul). For a military surplus buy this is hard to beat and can put meat on the table at a very affordable price too.
Another good buy right now is the swiss k31 in 7.5swiss. Its a very accurate swiss quality rifle and it has a straight bolt pull thats smooth like a swiss watch too. Power wise its like a 308 too. This baby will shoot 3/4" groups at 100yds using the swiss surplus GP11 ammo. This military ammo is like match ammo because the quality is so good.
I would checkout the local gun or pawn shop too and look closely at the used rifles. I would bring a bore lite or a penlite to inspect the bores. Just look for sharp corners on the rifling and make sure they have no pitts or rust in the bores too. On the military guns make sure the numbers all on the bolt ect. match the serial number too.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.
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I agree that Savage is one of the best "bang" for the buck (sorry, couldn't resist) very wll made, accurate, won't break the bank. Otherwise one of my favorite rounds that goes way overlooked is the 25/06 Less recoil than the 30/06 Still can't beat the good old 30/30 either!
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Your right the 25/06 is very popular with deer hunters too. So is the 243win too.
So many choices..........
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.
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I shoot a 270, but will admit that on shorter shots, it can obliterate a front shoulder. I now try to make neck or head shots just because of that.
If i were doing it again, I'd give serious thought to the .243.
There is also nothing wrong with the 30-30 mentioned, as well.
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Get a 80 dollar Mosin nagant 7.62x54r you can get the carbine version or full size pay for the extra for handpicked and buy 1000 rounds of bulk ammo. If you want to you can get the sniper version, 6 inch group at 600 meters is not bad but you will pay closer to 700 for a original or 500ish for a clone.
Bolt action and pretty good accuracy. Only use soft tips on deer btw.
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shop around till you find a deal your comfortable buying ... i wanted a 270 or 30.06 but settled for a 300 short action ultra mag by Ruger model 77 because it was on clearance at a local gun shop for what i thought was a good deal.. it could be said its overkill for deer rifle but the price was right? i also have a 30-30 that i like to hunt the thick woods with it has no scope and is short and sweet to carry..
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Black. Black as black can be... Surprisingly black, actually, with another surprisingly deep brown and tainted mocha colored head that foams up to a few fingers quickly, and then hastily retreats to a weak film stretched across the black hole. A few splotches of tan lacing are left near the top of the glass and that's about it. I know it's an oatmeal stout, but I wasn't expecting this level of darkness.
The aroma ventures into the cream and silky chocolate range with a mild oat undertaking and plenty of dark and lightly roasted malt. The darkness and roast don't come without a somewhat out of kilter, but nevertheless balancing, creamy sweetness - the beauty of sweet/oatmeal stouts, right? The nose shows just a touch of dark fruit in the finish... Not as captivating as I was expecting, but a decent smelling oatmeal stout nonetheless.
Velvet Merlin tricks me a little bit, as the taste is definitely more roasted than you would ever be able to anticipate just from taking a few whiffs. Lightly charred malt is met by a quieter, softer prune and dark fruit sweetness that lends every hand it has in an attempt to balance, and eventually does a respectable job of it, even if not immediately.
More milk chocolates explode about halfway through, flowing into a graciously soft and dry oat filled finish. Sweetness is contempt, yet notable and overall balanced pretty well with the roast and the dry oats. The mouth feel of this beer doesn't swoon me with its sexy silkiness like oatmeal stouts should (and like many of them do), so I must dock it a few points in that regard.
Velvet Merlin is a pretty good oatmeal stout all around, but it really wasn't a mind-blowing or incredible experience for me, and there are certainly some options that are more local to me that I'd take over it (New Holland's The Poet, or even Rogue's Shakespeare, as much as I hate Rogue and their business practices... but that's neither here nor there). Really good, but not legendary.
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Pours a deep black, mocha dense head dies down to a thin layer of bubbles. Minimal lacing.
The aroma is of grains. Like freshly mashed dark grains it's inviting and roasty but not over done with just a little back end sweetness and vanilla. Its simple and to the point.
Taste is just outstanding. Roasted barley in the forefront, a mild coffee bean flavor and then it finishes with just the smallest amount of plum fruit. The finish has a lingering bitter /roast that is welcomed. Mouthfeel is medium light but the oats give it a silky impression that makes it feel fuller bodied without knocking down the drinkability.
This is seriously a great beer. One of the best simple no frills stouts that I've ever had. Truely impressed.
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5/5 rDev +24.4%
03-09-2014 00:45:50 | More by TimBeaulieu
4.13/5 rDev +2.7%
I really liked this beer. Poured into a plain ass snifter and was great!
Beer buying (not yet drinking) a lot of their beer lately (five XVI's, Parabola and DDBA's as I find) and had to try.
Pours a deep dark brown with great head that slowly dissipates.
Usual aromas of coffee and chocolate as expected but suprisingly drinkable and not the least bit filling as I expect a stout to be.
Great aftertaste and overall, if I'm looking for a drinkable stout that isnt barrel aged or fancy, I think I've found it.
11-27-2012 01:46:18 | More by SanFranJake
4/5 rDev -0.5%
03-18-2013 18:36:04 | More by SoundZero
4.5/5 rDev +11.9%
02-26-2013 03:03:41 | More by drewkennedy
4.5/5 rDev +11.9%
02-18-2012 17:01:36 | More by bdkucharski
4.05/5 rDev +0.7%
Promoted as a Merkin @ local joint known for small number but top quality tap line.
Couldn't wait.
Enjoyed the beer enough but where was the bourbon? I reviewed it as a Merkin & blamed the thin taste on too cold serving temperature.
Elliott Bay Pizza later tweeted that it wasn't a Merkin at all but a Merlin.
That's better. Explains the taste but still doesn't excuse the serving temperature.
Still, I have the growler to go & can give it an updated rating on my terms in the future.
With the $10 price tag for the growler, not complaining at all. Should have known it was too good to be true. They're allowed to screw up once in a while. They're still my go-to local place for pizza & killer beer.
As a non-bourbon barrel aged oatmeal stout, this is excellent and more in line with what I expect from FW not the disappointment when I expected it to be a Merkin. Deleted my Merkin review.
10-13-2012 12:44:38 | More by NWer
3.38/5 rDev -15.9%
12oz bottle. Pours dark brown with a big creamy light tan head that retains well and laces the glass a little.
The aroma is roasted malt, oatmeal and some coffee.
The flavor is a little on the mild side - some sweet chocolate and caramel malts with some earthy coffee notes. The mouthfeel is medium bodied and fairly watery.
Overall, a decent oatmeal stout, but a little on the mild and sweet side. I slightly preferred the Slow Elk by Big Sky which is very similar.
01-13-2012 02:47:34 | More by Beaver13
3.75/5 rDev -6.7%
06-21-2014 07:39:59 | More by Jared14
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01-23-2014 05:02:19 | More by SmellsofMahagony
New Hampshire
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07-02-2014 22:37:28 | More by abottrill
3.33/5 rDev -17.2%
Bottle courtesy of a BA trade. Pours inky black with tan colored head that went away almost immediately. Good legs, okay lacing. Aroma is faint. I'm only getting deep malt with a touch of brown sugar. Taste is much different, still the heavy malt character, interesting oat flavor, faint hop earthiness, brown sugar/caramel. Mouthfeel is surprisingly thin. Not nearly as syrupy as I was hoping for from a oatmeal centered stout. I'm surprised this beer becomes so damn tasty in the barrels. Merkin is considerably better. Maybe I shouldn't have aged this one. Who knows?
11-03-2013 22:01:19 | More by mverity
4/5 rDev -0.5%
03-07-2014 07:56:32 | More by Fcip78
Rhode Island
4.55/5 rDev +13.2%
08-17-2014 23:46:51 | More by Doomcifer
New Hampshire
4.25/5 rDev +5.7%
02-13-2014 23:15:50 | More by JakerLou
3.5/5 rDev -12.9%
03-03-2013 17:57:45 | More by Beerswag
New York
3.95/5 rDev -1.7%
Firestone Walker Velvet Merlin Oatmeal Stout
12 oz. bottle ,Bottled on dating ( "01/09/14") etched onto the neck of the bottle.
Pours near black, mocha head, stays nicely and leaves low sheeting and thicker strands of lace.
Chocolate and some vanilla on the nose.
Thick and flavorful, with more milk chocolate and smooth dark malt notes. Dry finish but maintains a quite moderate hop presence. Nicely done and well worth a try if ya see this available in your local area.
02-18-2014 22:05:49 | More by Billolick
3.95/5 rDev -1.7%
The Beers of California
Bottled Date: 9/27/12
A: Deep black with a light brown head of foam which dissipates to a faint layer of bubbles.
S: Smokey with dark chocolate and hints of espresso.
T: Bittersweet chocholate with hints of smokiness, vanilla, and espresso. Smooth, dark, sweet bread foundation. Some earthy bitterness and warming alcohol in the finish. Great flavor profile with complementing characteristics.
M. Full, creamy, and velvety smooth with good carbonation.
O: A great, smooth stout for the cold winter nights. Simple and balanced with good drinkability.
11-11-2012 03:47:19 | More by ElSid
4.75/5 rDev +18.2%
01-27-2013 01:38:54 | More by Guinnsslvr
4/5 rDev -0.5%
09-29-2013 23:47:36 | More by SuperbikeShaun
Velvet Merlin from Firestone Walker Brewing Co.
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DETROIT -- Tigers outfielder Andy Dirks left Tuesday's game against the Royals in the fourth inning with left hamstring tightness, the same injury that sidelined him earlier this month.
Dirks had to speed up when left fielder Alex Gordon overran his pop fly, hustling in on a double. He was clearly hobbling after that, prompting head athletic trainer Kevin Rand to jog out from the dugout. Brad Eldred, the 6-foot-6, 270-pound designated hitter the Tigers called up last week, pinch-ran for Dirks -- who started as the designated hitter -- and scored on Jhonny Peralta's single.
Although it appeared the play caused the injury, Dirks said it was something he had been dealing with all day.
"Today it was just tight," he said. "I think maybe the cold weather had something to do with it, too. As the game went on, I was trying to stay loose, [and] it kept getting tighter and tighter. But I didn't re-pull it. It was just sore and tight, and I think they [wanted to be] precautionary."
Dirks initially strained his left hamstring trying to score from second base on a hit at Kansas City a couple weeks ago. He missed about eight days before returning to action last week. Manager Jim Leyland hinted that if Dirks remains sore, a stint on the disabled list is possible.
"He's a concern to me," Leyland said. "They're talking not bad, didn't really re-injure it, but we'll have to just wait and see. But we can't go six, seven, eight days again like we did last time. We'll just have to wait and see and evaluate it tomorrow."
Dirks and Don Kelly had been sharing left-field duties the past few days while Delmon Young has been out. Young is scheduled to return from his suspension on Friday, though manager Jim Leyland said he will not be in the starting lineup that night against the White Sox.
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DETROIT -- Having tallied only six hits in his past 41 at-bats and having his batting average drop from .389 to .220 entering Tuesday, Alex Avila is in a bit of an early-season slump. However, the All-Star catcher is not the least bit concerned.
"It's kind of pointless to look at average or numbers at this point in the season," said Avila, who referenced his April stats -- other than batting average and RBIs -- being about the same as last year. "It's not something you concern yourself about right now. ... If I get three hits today, my average will be like .280-something. So it's kind of pointless to look at it that way."
Avila's not far off and said he won't overreact by approaching games differently. The only difference Tuesday was that when he finished with his usual pregame hitting session in the batting cages, he came back to his new locker, which used to belong to Brandon Inge, and prepared to catch Rick Porcello for the first time.
Avila said he's putting together "quality at-bats" and that's the best thing a hitter can do.
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DETROIT -- Through six appearances with the Tigers, Daniel Schlereth owned a 10.29 ERA, which got him optioned to Triple-A Toledo on April 21. A week later, without playing in a game for the Mud Hens, he was placed on the 15-day disabled list with left shoulder tendinitis.
The move raised some questions on Tuesday if Jim Leyland believed the left-hander might have been concealing the injury to remain active at the Major League level. It's not unusual with players, Leyland said, but at no point did he believe that was the case with Schlereth.
"I suppose some guys want to stay in the big leagues so they try to get through some stuff," Leyland said. "But the first time I heard anything about Schlereth was after he went down to Toledo."
Schlereth's velocity remained consistent, but his command was off. He issued five walks in seven total innings and was tagged for 10 earned runs. After yielding five runs to the Rangers in an inning of work on April 19, he said he had never struggled that bad.
Still, he reported no injury and Leyland said that there was never any reason to expect otherwise.
"Did I have a suspicion? Absolutely none," Leyland said. "To my knowledge, he hasn't been on one report that I've read all spring. I get an injury report every day, and to my knowledge, Daniel Schlereth was not on it one time."
Leyland: Delmon unlikely to start Friday
DETROIT -- Delmon Young will be back on the Tigers' active roster when he's eligible to return from his seven-day suspension, president/general manager Dave Dombrowski said Monday night, but he left the decision on whether Young plays to his manager. Jim Leyland's answer came Tuesday.
"He will not play Friday," Leyland said, "because he needs to get back into a routine a little bit -- get out on the field, taking fly balls, [batting practice] on the field, all that kind of stuff. So it's very unlikely he'd play Friday.
"Now, would I put him in the game if I needed to? Sure, but he won't start Friday's game. And that's the only reason, only because he needs to get back, get some BP, run around the outfield a little bit, stuff like that."
Asked when Young will start, Leyland said, "I think he'll be back in there very shortly."
Young hasn't taken batting practice on the field with the team or taken fly balls since last Thursday, the finale of the Tigers' last homestand. He spent Friday at a midtown Manhattan police station and later a Manhattan court being arraigned and eventually released on bail for his aggravated harassment charge. Once he was placed on Major League Baseball's restricted list, he wasn't seen around Yankee Stadium all weekend.
Young can't be in the clubhouse or on the field with the team during his suspension.
Below back in the bullpen a benefit to Tigers
DETROIT -- Sometimes a rainout is the best thing that can happen for a struggling team, but manager Jim Leyland doesn't believe in momentum. He does believe, though, in Duane Below being a big part of his bullpen. Thanks to Monday's rainout, he has Below back.
It takes a little maneuvering, and it assumes a healthy Doug Fister coming out of his rehab start Wednesday night at Triple-A Toledo, but not playing Monday actually was a big step in getting the Tigers' rotation back to normal. With Thursday's off-day, the Tigers now won't need a fifth starter until next Monday or Tuesday in Seattle. They can skip Below because Rick Porcello can move up in the order and pitch on his normal four days' rest.
If Fister is fine Wednesday, his next turn would be Monday, and the Tigers are counting on that outing taking place in Seattle.
Add in that the Royals had four left-handed hitters in their starting lineup Tuesday, including the dangerous Alex Gordon, Eric Hosmer and Mike Moustakas, and Below's return to relief is a good thing for Leyland, whose only other lefty reliever is Phil Coke.
"That helps," Leyland said. "We'll get our bullpen back in sync a little bit very shortly."
Leyland will attend Fister's rehab start. Asked what he needs to see from Fister, Leyland indicated he expects some rust, but he isn't overly concerned about it.
"I just want to see what the delivery looks like, the movement looks like, the command looks like," Leyland said. "What I'm hoping happens is that he gets through the game and that he feels fine."
Jason Beck is a reporter for MLB.com. Read Beck's Blog and follow him on Twitter @beckjason. Anthony Odoardi is an associate reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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a man got killed at the steel mill where i work yesterday, forklift operator got off machine to move some dunnage where he wanted to set load (about 30,000 lbs.). he turned his back to forklift and it rolled and pinned him between another stack of steel. he had left the engine running, trans in neutral but did not set his brake. how many times have we put a running tractor in neutral and just got off to do something. cubs have a brake lock and i have never used it but that is going to change . cubs are not heavy as far as tractors go but 1800 pounds sitting on your chest will kill you just as quick.
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Fodman we are all very sorry to hear about your lost of a co worker, it is very sad when anyone dies of something as simple as setting a break. But we all do things we shouldn't do some times, Thanks for posting this, It may make all of us to thing Twice. may God be with the family, The Chief
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Accidents are tough, cause everything is going just great then in a fraction of a second it can change usually resulting in bad stuff. Yes, a person should never leave a vehicle running and leave it, but we've all done it. Wishing the best for his family and in my prayer.
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Being involved in EMS and also plant safety and first response I have seen a lot of injuries and some deaths caused by "accidents". And they are indeed accidents. No one meant for anything to go wrong. But in most of those incidents people were doing something they had done before many times and never had a problem. In each case - "something" different happened this time. We do become complacent with our practices sometimes and it surely pays to stay on one's toes all the time when working around any type of equipment.
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I plowed with my cub today and got off a dozen times and only set the brake twice. Not smart but my big foot does not fit to step down or up with the brake set.
What I was taught early on about farm gear while very cool, it is a monster waiting to eat you if you get lazy, nonchalant or stupid.
Number one rule of thumb from Dad was never get between the tractor and something else without an escape plan and eyes wide open.
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Sorry to hear about your co-worker also, will keep all in our prayers, seems we all got a lot to do and forget what we are doing at the present.
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This article introduces StarMenu, a QML pop up menu.
The StarMenu is a QML contextual pop up menu that can be launched by clicking or tapping on a component like with MouseArea element. The StarMenu's menu items are defined using StarItems.
This plugin was developed with Qt 4.7.4 and tested on linux, windows, Nokia N900, Nokia C7-00, Nokia N950 and Android Galaxy tab GT-7310 (with Necesistas ).
Note: The documentation to install and use the plugin is in the project wiki page.
StarMenu is hidden by default and opens in response to a user action. The purpose of StarMenu is to manage all StarItem childs. By default they are arrange in a circle shape and, in the center of it, it is painted a star polygon shape with as many spikes as the number of StarItems. It can be visible or not by setting the boolean starCenterVisible property. The circle shape amplitude is given by radiusH and radiusV properties.
Clicking on the center of the current menu, will close it and goes back to parent.
It's possible to click on the center of the first menu to close all.
visualParent property is used to bind the close menu action to a specified item, so, instead of clicking on center of StarMenu, it's possible to set visualParent to the main window and close menu everywhere on the screen.
When using visualParent, it come handy the color property to set a transparent color to the clickable area to close the menu. Changing StarItem visible property, makes all StarItems position recalculated with only visible items.
StarMenu {
id: starMenu
anchors.fill: parent
radius: 130
StarItem {
width: 64; height: 64
Image {
anchors.fill: parent
StarItem {
StarMenu {
It is possible to bind animations to StarItems. When a StarMenu is raised, the StarItems circle shape has the center located by the mouse click (or tap) position and their opacity, rotation, x, y property are set to 0. By doing this:
StarItem {
Behavior on x { NumberAnimation { duration: 1500; easing.type: Easing.OutBounce } }
Behavior on y { NumberAnimation { duration: 1500; easing.type: Easing.OutBounce } }
Behavior on opacity { NumberAnimation { duration: 2200; easing.type: Easing.OutBounce } }
StarItems are animated from center to their final position.
StarMenu has also a delayChangePos property. For example, when it is set to 100, the animation of the second StarItem is started after 100 ms, the third after 200 ms and so on. StarItem has also a delayChangePos property and if it is set, it take priority over the StarMenu delayChangePos property.
StarItems can also contain any other component instead Image component used in these examples:
StarItem {
width: 320; height: 240
scale: 0.3
zoomHoverValue: 1
Behavior on scale { NumberAnimation { duration: 500; easing.type: Easing.OutQuad } }
Column {
Button { text: "Hello Qt" }
Switch { }
RadioButton { }
StarItems can be arranged in a spiral shape, in a grid shape or in a line shape. StarMenu shape property could have the following values:
- StarMenu.ShapeCircle (default value)
- StarMenu.ShapeGrid
- StarMenu.ShapeSpiral
- StarMenu.ShapeLine
Rows in grid shape are arranged centered by the mouse click and are spaced by spacingH and spacingV properties with columns count defined by columns property. Spiral shape takes care of startingRadius value to start drawing StarItems and radiusIncrement property to shape the spiral. Line shape has a startingAngle, radiusIncrement and startingRadius properties.
StarMenu has the center where user clicks. This center can be defined everywhere in scene coordinates by setting center property.
Here some examples which you can find in the source code of starmenudemo in the project wiki page. There are also other useful links like Getting started, Overview and a developer documentation.
This is the example number 9 (Menu9.qml) in starmenudemo sources. It will explain how to make a drop down menu with StarMenu plugin.
Lets start with a Rectangle component with StarMenu as a child:
Rectagle {
id: mainButton
property int itemsW: 100
property int itemsH: 36
width: 150; height: 30
StarMenu {
anchors.fill: parent
starCenterVisible: false // don't display the star polygon
shape: StarMenu.ShapeLine // define the shape that entries will assume
visualParent: mainWindow // set the sensible area to the root scene item
color: Qt.rgba(0,0,0,0.6) // set the color of the sensible area
delayChangePos: 150 // entries are arranged with a delay
radiusIncrement: 0 // the entries are arranded with no offset
startingAngle: -90 // the line shape direction
startingRadius: 0 // offset of the 1st entry
center.x: mainButton.x+mainButton.itemsW/2
center.y: mainButton.y+mainButton.height+mainButton.itemsH/2
in this code we start to define itemsW and itemsH for the dimensions of the menu entries. StarMenu is anchored to mainButton, so when it is clicked, the menu will pop up. A plus to the comments in the above code, the center property needs an explaination. When StarMenu opens, all entries are placed where the user clicks. This behavior can be changed by setting a value to the center property. In this case, we want to rise the menu just under mainButton. Since this center is also the center of the 1st item, we calculate the x position to be aligned to the left of mainButton and y position to be at the bottom of mainbutton plus the mid height of 1st item.
Now lets start to add as many StarItems as you like:
StarItem {
id: firstItem
width: mainButton.itemsW; height: mainButton.itemsH
scale: 0.9
zoomHoverValue: 1
Behavior on x { NumberAnimation { easing.amplitude: 0.3; duration: 800; easing.type: Easing.OutBounce } }
Behavior on y { NumberAnimation { easing.amplitude: 0.3; duration: 800; easing.type: Easing.OutBounce } }
Behavior on opacity { NumberAnimation { duration: 1000 } }
Behavior on scale { NumberAnimation { duration: 200 } }
Rectangle {
anchors.fill: parent
border { color: "#000000"; width: 1 }
Text {
anchors.fill: parent
verticalAlignment: Text.AlignVCenter
horizontalAlignment: Text.AlignHCenter
text: "item 1"
As mentioned before, all menu entries are placed in center before the menu opens. So it's easy to animate the transition to the open state. Also opacity, rotation and {{Icode|scale} can be animated. In StarMenu component we set the delayChangePos to 150 (ms). If we want to override this value for a particular entry, we can just add to this StarItem its own delayChangePos property. Another nice feature of StarItems is the zoomHoveValue property. In this case, since there is the text that will be distorted with a scale > 1, we started with a scale of 0.9. When the mouse is hover the item, it will be scaled to 1 with an animation. The StarItem interaction with the user can be managed by these signals:
while for StarMenu are available these:
Now, lets say we want a sub menu when clicking an entry. Just add a StarMenu component as a child of this entry:
StarItem {
id: secondItem
Rectangle {
StarMenu {
anchors.fill: parent
starCenterVisible: false
shape: StarMenu.ShapeLine
visualParent: mainWindow
parentVisible: true
center.x: mainButton.x+mainButton.itemsW+mainButton.itemsW/2
center.y: secondItem.y+secondItem.height/2
StarItem { ...}
StarItem { ...}
StarItem { ...}
The only thing we should take care for this example, is the center property like explained before. Another thing we should consider is the parentVisible property. By default when a sub menu is opened, his parent is hidden. With this property set to true, it will stay visible.
About the opening action event by user click, this can be overridden by setting open property of {{Icode|StarMenu} to {{Icode|true}. So i.e. when the application starts, the menu can be already opened without the user click:
Component.onCompleted: starMenu.open = true
This is the example number 6 (Menu6.qml) in starmenudemo sources source. It will explain how to create menu entries dynamically with StarMenu plugin.
We need at first a XmlListModel to get the feed from Flickr:
XmlListModel {
id: modelList
property string tags
function commasep(x)
return x.replace(' ',',');
query: "/rss/channel/item"
namespaceDeclarations: "declare namespace media=\"http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/\";"
XmlRole { name: "url"; query: "media:content/@url/string()" }
onTagsChanged: {
if (tags !== "")
source = "http://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/photos_public.gne?"+(tags ? "tags="+commasep(tags)+"&" : "")+"format=rss2"
onStatusChanged: {
if (status === XmlListModel.Ready && count>0) {
repeater.model = modelList;
Then a TextInput component to get the user search words to be used as a Flickr image search:
Rectangle {
id: rectangle1
x: 0; y: 0; width: 200; height: 40
TextInput {
id: textEdit
anchors.fill: parent
onAccepted: {
repeater.model = undefined;
modelList.tags = textEdit.text;
We can now use StarMenu with, as child, a Repeater. With the delegate a StarItem and the modelList as the model:
StarMenu {
id: starMenu
anchors.fill: parent
visible: open
visualParent: mainWindow
color: Qt.rgba(0,0,0, 0.8)
center.x: mainWindow.width>>1
center.y: mainWindow.height>>1
starCenterVisible: false
delayChangePos: 60
shape: StarMenu.ShapeGrid
columns: 8
spacingH: 10
spacingV: 25
Repeater {
id: repeater
delegate: StarItem {
width: 150; height: 200
Rectangle {
anchors.fill: parent
color: "#490202"
clip: true
Image {
anchors.top: parent.top
width: 150; height: 200
fillMode: Image.PreserveAspectFit
source: url
opacity: 0
onStatusChanged: if (status==Image.Ready) opacity = 1
Behavior on opacity { NumberAnimation { duration: 5000; easing.type: Easing.OutQuint } }
} // Repeater
When the user will press return key to accept, the model of repeater wil be reset and the {{Icode|modelList} will be retrieved from Flickr. If all is gone well and the modelList is filled, all the entries of this StarMenu will be filled with images and it will open itself (without user interaction).
This menu has a grid shape so the images are shown in a grid with 8 columns, spaced vertically by 25 pixels and horizontally by 10. The visualParent is the mainWindow. Doing so, a click outside the entries will close the menu.
With StarMenu way, it is easy for example, to add a menu for each image. Inserting a {{Icode|StarMenu} inside the {{Icode|delegate}, it will come handy to pop up a menu with entries like "download", "thumb up", "share" and so on. Maybe with a circle shape kind menu or a drop down menu like in the previous tutorial.
Below the home project link. You will find the zip of plugin source in Files tab and the git repo in the Source tab. There are aslo a deb package for Nokia N9/950 and a sis package for symbian Anna.