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Brigid of Kildare
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'Progressive' Christianity
January 19, 2003, 10:08:22 AM »
Christians in my part of the world have been much exercised recently by a conference of so-called 'Progressive Christians" recycling what sounded like pretty old heresies. Now the Church of Ireland Gazette gives us an insight into the motivations of one of the organizers. I can't wait to see next week's Gazette's letters page! Brigid
'Progressive' activist's paganism interest
Mr Wayne Simmons, who was involved in organising the recent 'Progressive Christianity' conference at Castlewellan, Co. Down, under the auspices of the United States-based Centre for Progressive Christianity (TCPC), has told the Gazette of his interest in tarot cards and paganism.
Asked for his own views on the historic Christian doctrines of the Incarnation and the Trinity, Belfast-based Mr Simmons was unsure. He said he saw no reason to believe or disbelieve in the Incarnation but did not feel it was 'necessary'. Regarding the Trinity, he said there was 'lots of biblical evidence' for the teaching, but pointed out that there have been differing views on the subject. He said that many pagans believe in a divine trinity of sorts.
Mr Simmons said that all Christianity 'borrows much from ancient paganism,' and explained: 'For example, the Christian calendar sits on the pagan timeline for almost identical celebrations. The legend of St Brigid is an adaptation of a Celtic pagan goddess and the Christ figure within Christianity performs a similar dying/resurrection/redeeming role as Dionysus within ancient Greek mythology.'
Asked if he could understand that many Christians would have difficulty reconciling paganism and the use of tarot cards with the Christian faith, Mr Simmons said he could, but felt this might simply be out of prejudice based on 'ignorance' and 'fear of the unknown'. He added: 'I think spirituality is complex and varied. I believe if some Christians were to learn more about the nature and practice of many contemporary pagans they may feel more comfortable with the terminology.'
Mr Simmons, who said he regarded himself as a Christian but did not belong to any denomination, said he was a 'dabbler' in wicca, a nature religion. He said he had been brought up as a Christian fundamentalist but now was keen to explore religion in a comparative way. He said he was 'one of the 27% of 24 to 45-year-olds who according to the Belfast Telegraph's millennium survey never go to church,' adding: 'The mission of TCPC is to make Christianity relevant to people like me without forcing any type of dogma down my throat.'
Mr Simmons stressed to the Gazette that he had expressed his views in a personal capacity and not as a representative of TCPC.
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And here is an account of the proceedings themselves. Do any of our US friends know of the Reverend Mr Adams? Sounds like he would have the blessing of that other US "progressive" - Bishop Spong!
Irish 'progressive' Christians meet
By Canon Charles Kenny
About 40 people, clergy and lay, Roman Catholic, Anglican and Free Church, young and old, from North and South, turned up for a conference on 'Progressive Christianity' amid the beautiful setting of the Slieve Croob Inn near Castlewellan, Co. Down, from Thursday 31st October to Saturday 2nd November.
The keynote speaker, the Revd James Adams, was for more than 30 years rector of the episcopal St Mark's church in Washington DC. There he emphasized that the hallmark of God's people should be down-to-earth following in the footsteps of Jesus rather than doctrinal expertise or theological orthodoxy. Jim argues that this is in accordance with the procedure of Jesus himself and with the judgement of New Testament writers. (The essential message of the letter to the Ephesians is: "Love one another", not "Believe what you are told".) Also, as rector of a thriving parish church, Jim is convinced that a parish church with such a policy works in practice, attracting and enthusing churchgoers.
In 1994 Jim established The Centre for Progressive Christianity (TCPC) with a website of interesting, thought-provoking material. He is in contact with nearly 200 affiliated churches and faith communities in 25 countries throughout the world.
Under the heading 'Religion doesn't have to be irrelevant, ineffectual, repressive' Jim introduced his listeners to his Eight Points. He invited us to join with Christians who (point 1) "follow the way to God that we have found in the life and teachings of Jesus" and (point 5) "think that the way we behave towards one another and other people is more important than the way we talk about our beliefs".
Formal response came from Sr Anne Codd who, while by and large accepting as valid the eight points, felt that perhaps there was a vagueness as to who "we" are whom people were invited to join; more definition is needed as to what exactly is this community of God's people of which we are invited to become part.
Wayne Simmons spoke movingly of how fresh and appealing this Progressive Christianity is to one like himself who had abandoned the "narrow, mean-minded fundamentalist" Christianity he had grown up with in Belfast. He particularly appreciated point 6: "We find more promise in the quest for understanding than we do in absolute certainty."
Point 2 brings Progressive Christianity into conflict with some. We "respect people who follow other ways to God, acknowledging that their ways are as true for them as our way is true for us". On the Friday morning a member of the Belfast Jewish community and the president of Belfast's Islamic Centre, after sharing breakfast at the same table, addressed us on being small minority communities in Northern Ireland.
The message of Dr David Warm and Jamal Iweida was as interesting as the respect they showed each other was heartening. The Christian audience was reminded by both speakers that all three traditions are of the People of the Book who share many prophets in common, and that the Golden Age of Spain when Jews, Christians and Moslems lived happily together was under centuries of Islamic rule. This godly situation ended when Christians took over. Dr Warm was forthright that "the Jewish experience of the Moslem world was more benevolent than of the Christian world".
Canon Hilary Wakeman spoke of her concern for the intellectual and moral integrity of contemporary Christians when in religious life we repeat phrases of a former age in a way we wouldn't dream of in any other area of life. While appreciating that many are happy with the old ways she feared that increasing numbers are unwilling to listen thoughtlessly and to repeat in worship poetic phrases as if they were literally true. She offered an understanding of the perceived godliness of Jesus as an alternative to the Chalcedonian words.
There were further interesting contributions from a psychotherapist who believes she sees the results of secularism in some of her patients. C.G. Jung feared that decline in religion would cause great problems of loss of bearings and loss of meaning in life. Jung warned that religious symbolism arises from the deepest recesses of human consciousness and that the western world was endangering itself by squandering its Judaeo/ Christian heritage.
Friday's banquet speaker, Dr William Patterson, a Methodist lay preacher, described his own odyssey to an informed faith via an RE teacher who encouraged thoughtfulness and serious questioning on the part of his pupils.
Entertaining storytelling on pagan and Christian hallowe'en, Scottish and Irish Gaelic music from CAIM, a Christian Celtic group, and Taiz+¬ meditations by the Revd Nigel Kirkpatrick and Michael Brush afforded spiritual sustenance to all ages and traditions. Finally, Anne Odling-Smee summed up the gratitude of all of us for the message of Jim Adams and his presence among us. She felt that all religious traditions in Ireland could learn from his vision of parish life.
As present-day Christians search for ways of relating faith to daily life in a way that would win the approval of Our Lord, the question must be raised, especially in Ireland, of doctrinal purity and alleged threats thereto. As we were reminded, even St Augustine commented: "If you think that you understand Him, it isn't God." Those attending this stimulating conference are grateful to its originator and organizer, Wayne Simmons, a self-described recovering fundamentalist. Taste and see!
Canon Charles Kenny is a retired residentiary Canon of St Anne's Cathedral, Belfast.
Radicals meet in Co. Down
A conference of "progressive" Christians was held recently near Castlewellan, Co. Down. The main speaker was the Revd James Adams from the United States who outlined the principles of his Centre for Progressive Christianity, which places orthopraxis ahead of orthodoxy and which says that "progressive" Christians find more grace in the search for meaning than in absolute certainty.
Another speaker was Canon Hilary Wakeman who reportedly questioned the usefulness of at least some contemporary religious language. In an account of the gathering which he has sent to the Gazette (and which is published this week on page 5), Canon Charles Kenny, formerly of Belfast Cathedral, says that Canon Wakeman suggested "an understanding of the perceived godliness of Jesus as an alternative to the Chalcedonian words".
In an email from her home in Schull, Co. Cork, Canon Wakeman responded to a request from the Gazette to comment further on this: "What I believe we need to do is to try to get behind labels like 'second Person of the Trinity' to what the people who invented them were trying to say, about Jesus, about God. Because the labels have become meaningless; or, at least, [have become] no more meaningful than if I were to say that 'the one I love is the sun and the moon to me'."
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In His book Orthodoxy, G.K. Chesterton said that progress "maintains that we alter the test instead of trying to pass the test." I certainly don't agree with everything that Mr. Chesterton said, but sometimes he hits the nail right on the head; and when he does, he says it with as much wit and potency as any Protestant from his generation (he wrote Orthodoxy while an Anglican). Chesterton goes on:
We often hear it said, for instance, "What is right in one age is wrong in another." This is quite reasonable, if it means that there is a fixed aim, and that certain methods attain at certain times and not at other times. If women, say, desire to be elegant, it may be that they are improved at one time by growing fatter and at another time by growing thinner. But you cannot say that they are improved by ceasing to wish to be elegant and beginning to wish to be oblong. If the standard changes, how can there be improvement, which implies a standard? Nietzsche started a nonsensical idea that men had once sought as good what we now call evil; if it were so, we could not talk of surpassing or even falling short of them. How can you overtake Jones if you walk in the other direction? You cannot discuss whether one people has succeeded more in being miserable than another succeeded in being happy. It would be like discussing whether Milton was more puritanical than a pig is fat. It is true that a man (a silly man) might make change itself his object or ideal. But as an ideal, change itself becomes unchangeable. If the change-worshipper wishes to estimate his own progress, he must be sternly loyal to the ideal of change; he must not begin to flirt gaily with the ideal of monotony. Progress itself cannot progress. It is worth remark, in passing, that when Tennyson, in a wild and rather weak manner, welcomed the idea of infinite alteration in society, he instinctively took a metaphor which suggests an imprisoned tedium. He wrote--"Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change." He thought of change itself as an unchangeable groove; and so it is. Change is about the narrowest and hardest groove that a man can get into.
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[Comment from Darryl]
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James Tyler: Yet Dortmund should feel aggrieved that it didn't kill City off 30 minutes ago.
Roger Bennett: Let that late goal not detract from Dortmund's performance tonight. They were the more positive, creative, menacing team... going to be interested to see if they use the injustice as motivation to press on. They can hurt teams if they reach the elimination round.
James Tyler: Defense bailed out many a time by Joe Hart.
James Tyler: I felt City was abysmal for long stretches. Toure and Silva struggling.
James Tyler: Final thoughts, one and all?
James Tyler: Week of October 23, Daniel. We'll have Boot Rooms again once more.
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[Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
Ocean's Fourteen. Aguero contrives a penalty with help from Matt Damon and a nachos-eating Brad Pitt. -
Roger Bennett: Conspiracy theorists start up "Uefa favor big club" bias stories...
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I am not pleased -
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James Tyler: Weidenfeller was great too. And Gundogan. But Joe Hart the clear MVP today.
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Hart. Man of Match? No other City players impresssed. -
James Tyler: FT: Porto 1, PSG 0. Huge result. Hats off to the Portuguese.
Roger Bennett: Whatever is going on behind the scenes at City will continue. This performance will only add to the question marks hanging over them. They got a result tonight. But will draw little confidence from it...
James Tyler: FT: Arsenal 3, Olympiacos 1
James Tyler: A robbery worthy of Ocean's Fourteen.
James Tyler: FULL TIME: Man City 1, Borussia Dortmund 1.
James Tyler: Piszczek knocked it down nicely for Lewandowski but he's shielded from reaching it by Nastasic.
James Tyler: Now, BVB on the counter...
James Tyler: Kolarov smacks the set piece into the wall. Aguero crosses the rebound but Dortmund clears. Just.
James Tyler: GOAL - Arsenal 3, Olympiacos 1 - Ramsey seals it in injury time
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James Tyler: YELLOW CARD, DORTMUND: Reus booked for handball wide left. Kolarov has a free-kick chance, wide on the right side. 30 meters from goal.
James Tyler: Arsenal injury shocker.
[Comment from Charlie]
Coquelin just tore something in his right calf.... -
[Comment from Guest]
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Roger Bennett: No composure. No ideas. very, very lucky. They will get a result. But not one they can draw confidence from
James Tyler: FT: Ajax 1, Real Madrid 4
James Tyler: FT: Anderlecht 0, Malaga 3
James Tyler: FT: Schalke 2, Montpellier 2
Roger Bennett: That pass from Yaya sums up City's night...
James Tyler: Yes. There is such a thing as Ball-to-Hand aka ball is hit at an arm that couldn't possibly be moved out of the way. I'd argue that's what the City PK was.
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James Tyler: Chance for Dortmund! Lewandowski catches Nastasic napping, cracks one from 20 yards but Hart is equal to it! Corner for BVB.
[Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
Absolute nonsense penalty. -
James Tyler: GOAL - Schalke 2, Montpellier 2 - Camara equalizes for ten-man Montpellier...
[Comment from Adrian]
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[Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
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Roger Bennett: Saving it for the winner JT
James Tyler: Yet no t-shirt celebration...
James Tyler: Balotelli casually, cheekily stutters and slots it the other way from Weidenfeller's despairing dive.
Roger Bennett: that was a fabulous penalty under pressure
James Tyler: GOAL FOR MAN CITY
James Tyler: Really looked like ball to hand. Not sure what Subotic was supposed to do there.
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[Comment from AR]
James Tyler: Aguero tries to volley the loose ball on goal from a narrow angle and smacks it into Subotic's elbow. Ref calls it a handball.
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James Tyler: PENALTY TO MAN CITY
James Tyler: Outswinging corner is nodded back towards goal but Weidenfeller punches it clear...
Roger Bennett: Wow
James Tyler: SUB FOR DORTMUND: Gotze off, Sebastian Kehl on. Defensive midfielder time...
James Tyler: Corner, City.
James Tyler: Chance for City! Right flank cross is nodded powerfully on target by Aguero but Roman Weidenfeller springs to his right and keeps it out. Superb save.
James Tyler: Cluj would trouble City. Just not putting the pieces together.
Roger Bennett: Brendan bloody Fraser
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Roger Bennett: What a performance from Dortmund though. Fearless. Came with a gameplan and stuck to it.
James Tyler: Getting chippy now as Man City is fouling out of frustration. Kolarov crunches Gotze in the right corner.
James Tyler: YELLOW CARD: Yaya Toure for arguing with the referee. First notable thing he's done all night.
James Tyler: Always a chance with four games left to play, especially as Dortmund and Real Madrid must still play twice.
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James Tyler: Like Rick Ross.
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James Tyler: No, Rob. You're not. Alan Shearer might disagree.
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Roger Bennett: Balo: Score? Sent off? Both?
James Tyler: Dortmund's high defensive line gives plenty of room for Aguero, etc to attack.
Roger Bennett: Hard to understand City. I really feel we only know part of the story of what is going on there behind the scenes. Defending Premier League Champions. A squad made of gold. But playing as if still bedding in -- a bunch of spare parts, devoid of inspiration, ideas, and collectivity
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James Tyler: GOAL - Porto 1, PSG 0 - Jay Rodriguez, 83"
[Comment from Jarrod]
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James Tyler: Heading for zero points from two games...
James Tyler: Seven minutes left for City to salvage its dismal CL campaign thus far.
James Tyler: Great game for Gundogan, all told. Really classy midfielder. Bossed it.
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Roger Bennett: Clichy's hair is... (complete that sentence)
James Tyler: SUB FOR MAN CITY: Gael Clichy off, Balotelli on.
James Tyler: GOAL - Ajax 1, Real Madrid 4 - Cristiano Ronaldo completes a typically insouciant hat trick, chipping the keeper.
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
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James Tyler: It's not even that, Shawn. Just that he's being forced to do a lot of work in defense. Dortmund aren't the kind of team to let him romp free. They're keeping him busy.
[Comment from Shawn]
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Roger Bennett: Brendan Fraser having a solid game in goal for Dortmund
Roger Bennett: BALO
Roger Bennett: Ref's two tone jerseys are the cutting edge of officialdom fashion. I want one. Would do the gardening in that beauty.
James Tyler: GOAL: Ajax 1, Real Madrid 3 - Cristiano Ronaldo 79"
James Tyler: Injured Dortmunder but City plays on. Crowd full of boos for the fallen Borussia man. Now Zabaleta is defending himself to Gotze and Santana.
Roger Bennett: Here is the story of the game. Yaya leads all players with 108 touches. Zero in the final third.
James Tyler: Foolish me.
James Tyler: I missed a Dortmund sub. Hummels off, Felipe Santana on.
James Tyler: Was a superb cross from Gundogan to tee up Lewandowski. Think the kind of crosses Gareth Bale made for Spurs to undress Inter Milan.
Roger Bennett: Are there any CIty fans in this chat room? Or are you all meteorologists?
James Tyler: Arguably would have been better served using his left foot to hit it. As such, went with his right and planted it wide.
James Tyler: Superb move down the right, Lewandowski meets a sublime cross in full stride with only Hart to beat and he shanks it wide from 12 yards.
James Tyler: Miss of the day by Dortmund!
Roger Bennett: City's imagination going no further than dumping ball forward towards Dzeko. Rattled here. Could have been 2-0 there...
James Tyler: Re: City. There's clearly some schizophrenia in their Prem efforts as compared to the Champions League. Is it mindset or lack of effort? Or is it just bad luck?
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I see them finishing third in the group, but fielding a weakened team in Europe that will crash out in similar circumstances as last year. -
[Comment from Charlie]
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James Tyler: Balotelli is warming up. Menacingly, I might add. Staring down Mats Hummels.
James Tyler: Chance for Dortmund! Lewandowski with space inside the box but he curls it well over the bar.
[Comment from Rahul Oak]
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James Tyler: It has? I guess no-one told Andre Villas-Boas.
Roger Bennett: Mancini is -- slightly hyperbolic this next statement, but only slightly -- fighting for his job here
[Comment from Gabi L.]
Haha James...if only L'Pool wasn't in major self implosion mode. Sorry but talk of ManU's demise has been overly exaggerated. -
James Tyler: They don't need to be, do they? I can still laugh.
[Comment from reason]
yea, James. because liverpool is doing so much better than either of the manchester clubs -
James Tyler: Aguero and Piszczek tussle down the left flank. Aguero demands a free kick. Ref gives nothing.
James Tyler: Sorry. I also grabbed cookies and a trash can for our road trip to Vegas. And aluminum.
[Comment from Jan in Cardiff]
Come on JT. You're in America now. It's called gasoline. -
[Comment from Doug GFOP]
Carlos Tevez needs to get on the pitch. -
James Tyler: Gravity. Law of averages. Bad karma. Whatever it is, I love it.
[Comment from Joe]
What on earth has happened to the Manchester clubs?!?!?! -
James Tyler: Chance for City! Offside trap breached once more by Aguero, Weidenfeller comes out and is rendered irrelevant by Aguero's square ball for Dzeko only Hummels intercepts and thumps clear.
Roger Bennett: Aguero furious at Dzeko's movement there
James Tyler: Surprisingly good, Corey. He's made fools of us.
Roger Bennett: Watching Jack Rodwell play while trying not to cry is like seeing baby seals culled. Truly heartbreaking
[Comment from Corey]
Thoughts on Jenkinson's performances this season? -
[Comment from Bryce]
How badly are City missing Javi Garcia right now. No way he makes that Rodwell pass. -
James Tyler: (puts petrol in the convertible)
[Comment from Keller]
I called Reus to the be the difference maker. We should go to Vegas, JT. -
James Tyler: City corner is stoutly cleared.
[Comment from Charlie]
Theo Walcoot going to come one for Arsenal. The Ox has been average, at best, tonight -
Roger Bennett: Discipline problems surely?
James Tyler: Because his name is SVEN BENDER.
James Tyler: Indeed, Skyler. He's filled the midfield void quite wonderfully. I also am fond of Sven Bender.
[Comment from Polident]
Vincent Kompany and the two Gallagher brothers would work fine for a Man City backline. -
[Comment from Skyler]
Gundogan is freaking awesome, wonder how long Dortmund can keep him -
James Tyler: Mancini's tactics-based gang sign symbols sure to be a runaway hit among the youth of tomorrow.
Roger Bennett: 6 saves for Joey Hart
James Tyler: Mancini "flashes the four." As in "lads, I need a flat back four again. You're dreadful at the 3-5-2."
James Tyler: I seem to recall picking City as the team to die in this Group of Death during our Matchday 1 chat. I'm doubling down on that.
James Tyler: Dortmund corner is taken short. Gotze finds Schmelzer in the box but Kompany clears.
Roger Bennett: City need to go to two at the back quickly. This 3 experiment is just not working
James Tyler: Mancini's scarf can, and will, be used as a garrotte on Jurgen Klopp if needed.
James Tyler: Gundogan forces a sharp diving save from Joe Hart! Another Dortmund chance! Das Relentlessness!
[Comment from Avery]
Joe Hart is a magical flying unicorn. -
Roger Bennett: quite good the city goalie, right?
James Tyler: Juventus, too. Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini. Formidable. Oh, and Buffon behind them.
James Tyler: Not sure if that's true, Ola. But I do know it's a formation you don't try lightly. I like Napoli's variation on it. Quite a few Serie A teams have figured it out. Mancini wants to do it desperately but doesn't have the players with the required discipline.
Roger Bennett: How bad are City playing? They are somehow making me feel sorry for them
[Comment from ola]
Is inter the best team playing 3 at back currently JT? -
Roger Bennett: Joe Hart playing like a bloke who knows he is under scrutiny in The Boot Room...
James Tyler: City's 3-5-2 is hilarious.
James Tyler: Reus gets in behind the back line again but Hart turns the low shot away. Easy run/pass to set Reus free.
Roger Bennett: Bob. you just know I am going to post that kind of comment every time
[Comment from Bob]
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
News of Dortmund's lead reaches the Emirates. Some smirking too. -
James Tyler: GOAL - Anderlecht 0, Malaga 3 - Eliseu's second of the game
James Tyler: I trust you on that, Bryce. As it turns out, Dortmund didn't need the flank. Just a gift-wrapped daisy-cutting pass from Jack Rodwell.
[Comment from Bryce]
You missed my comment earlier: if City go to 3 in the back, Dortmund will score with strength from the flanks. -
James Tyler: Well, it shows that Dortmund is better than Jack Rodwell. But we knew that already.
[Comment from Mr. Trololo]
And that shows that the Bundesliga is much better than the Premier League -
Roger Bennett: A goal to make even David Moyes smile
James Tyler: Not every club is set up/designed with a good academy in mind. Some clubs invest heavily in youth talent and building it up, others simply purchase. Requires a massive scouting network, tons of resources, lots of time, money and patience.
[Comment from Rodney]
Everton's best piece of business...ever -
Roger Bennett: Manicini's stomach churns... cannot lose this game. Cannot. Who can he trust to turn this game around?
[Comment from travis]
JT how is it that some clubs can always produce great youngsters and others can't? -
[Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
Jack Rodwell. Value for funny. -
James Tyler: Rodwell with a simply brainless no-look pass. Reus clinical in seeing the opportunity and seizing it.
Roger Bennett: That Rodwell pass can only be described as "very Joleon Lescott-esque"
James Tyler: His gaffe in possession allows Marco Reus to surge through on goal, and though Hart gets a glove to it, it spins over him and nestles in the far corner.
James Tyler: Shame, Jack Rodwell.
Roger Bennett: Rodwell. Rodwelll. Rodwell.
James Tyler: GOAL FOR DORTMUND!
James Tyler: Aguero thinks he's through on goal to scamper onto the forward flick but he's offside. Just.
James Tyler: An hour gone at the Etihad and Roger's busy reading When Saturday Comes in the corner of the Boot Room. He gets so despondent when games stay scoreless. Can't say I blame him. Were it not for Joe Hart's goalie clinic, it'd be a different story.
James Tyler: Ajax develops great players, mind.
James Tyler: Sold van der Wiel to PSG this summer, surely Eriksen will depart soon enough.
James Tyler: They're decent. But not in the same class as Real. Wonderful club running on a meager budget these days.
[Comment from Rahul Oak]
Are Ajax any good? Be honest. -
[Comment from Mark]
Come on Dortmund! Come on FFP!! -
James Tyler: Kolarov's first action is to slide in to Blaszczykowski. The Dortmund man gets a booking.
James Tyler: GOAL - Ajax 1, Real Madrid 2 - Nicklas Moisander pulls one back.
Roger Bennett: People mock GErvinho (ie Me) but he has scored one and made one tonight.
James Tyler: They were. Yet the scraps that Santi Cazorla left behind have gelled in both Champs League and La Liga.
[Comment from Marc]
I thought Malaga was supposed to be terrible this year. -
[Comment from Ian (LFC)]
I'm SO confused by Gervinho's touch these past 2 games. Are we sure that's him? Are we sure of anything??? -
James Tyler: Corner causes commotion. Reus hoofs downfield.
James Tyler: SUB FOR MAN CITY: Nasri off, Kolarov on. Might see a return of Mancini's lovely 3-man defense.
James Tyler: Weidenfeller flaps at a Zabaleta corner, forcing a defensive header by Bender to concede a corner.
Roger Bennett: First real chaos in the Dortmund box there. City finally finding width.
James Tyler: Nervy stuff for Dortmund!
Roger Bennett: Great run from Zabaleta. I love how he crops up where you least expect him.
James Tyler: GOAL - Arsenal 2, Montpellier 1 - Podolski
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
Herr Podolski has not touched the ball. Good direct finish. Keeper Megyeri could really have done better than that. -
James Tyler: GOAL - Anderlecht 0, Malaga 2 - Joaquin PK
James Tyler: Unless that was an Oriundi joke, in which case well done.
James Tyler: Because he's Argentine.
[Comment from Mr. Trololo]
Why doesn't Zabaleta play with the Italian national team? -
[Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
@PhilSchoen JEALOUS. @whatahowler -
James Tyler: Corner for Dortmund is cleared.
James Tyler: Another lovely save by Hart! Great Dortmund move down the right, Piszczek slots it infield for Gotze unmarked inside the box and Hart casually palms Gotze's shot round the post.
Roger Bennett: Who would you bring on. Balo or Tevez?
James Tyler: Right, then. 54th minute at the Etihad and both sides eager to cancel out the excitement elsewhere in the Champs League tonight.
James Tyler: Least compelling documentary since "Paint Drying: The Definitive Story."
[Comment from Rob]
Being: JT and Rog coming Spring 2013 -
[Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
RT @James_Dart: Awesome, awesome goal RT @LlourinhoTumblr: Vídeo: Golazo de Benzema vs Ajax (0-2)[@rrmisas] tmblr.co/ZmO3twUaCaat -
Roger Bennett: A Sheikh.
[Comment from Steve]
Speaking of Liverpool. Who do you think they could bring in to solve their problems? -
Roger Bennett: Jack are you at the Dept of Immigration and Naturalization?
James Tyler: Indeed, Rog. Their web site alone gives me panic attacks.
[Comment from Jack]
James, Roger, personal question: what are your Social Security numbers? -
Roger Bennett: An awful school I would like to purchase just so i can shut it down.
James Tyler: RED CARD FOR MONTPELLIER. Bocaly off, and Huntelaar scores the PK. 2-1 Schalke.
James Tyler: Liverpool. And Liverpool. We even went to the same school, though this was discussed at painstaking length during Euro 2012. We shall not revisit. Saving it for the behind the scenes documentary.
Roger Bennett: Detroit for JT. I am from Buenos Aries.
Roger Bennett: That kind of gag gets me all the time, Pep.
[Comment from Dan]
James, Roger, personal question: what are your hometowns? -
James Tyler: Dzeko stabs one in the direction of goal, easy save for Weidenfeller. Hart scoffs at how simple the save was.
[Comment from Pep]
He threatened to kill me. -
Roger Bennett: Also. He is not a Hobbit.
James Tyler: Ibra is not a part of anything. Everything, however, is a part of him.
[Comment from MW]
they told him he had to pass -
Roger Bennett: Chemistry in locker room. And on the field. As a plan B he was not reliable. he needs a team to be built around him. Not being a part.
James Tyler: Square peg in round hole. Didn't fit the unselfish pass-and-move style. Too much of an ego. Had problems with Pep Guardiola.
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
Cazorla with a dreadful miss. He did something similar, though not quite as bad, against Chelsea on Saturday. -
[Comment from Keller]
Why didn't Ibra work at Barca? -
James Tyler: Plenty of singing at the Etihad. Neither Joe Hart nor Roman Weidenfeller has been pressed into heroism yet since the interval.
[Comment from Michael]
Unfortunate for Ajax. Was hoping to see them make the knockout stages until I saw their group -
James Tyler: I sense Milan-PSG tension. Work it out, lads.
[Comment from andrew]
Morty: hahahahahahahahahahaha, with Pazzini leading the line? -
[Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
RT @LaLigaLoca: Benzema scores with a wonderful bicycle kick! Mon Dieu! Paris Match! Jacques Cousteau! -
James Tyler: GOAL - Ajax 0, Real Madrid 2 - Benzema with a ROCKET.
James Tyler: I might be inclined to agree, but the purchase of Ibra and Thiago Silva is hard to ignore. PSG actually has a good defender now.
[Comment from Morty]
Milan will go further than PSG. -
James Tyler: We're off again in drizzly Manchester.
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
RT @stevenwyeth: @JohnBrewinESPN The Ox is old news now. Raheem Sterling is the new Prince of the hype block -
Roger Bennett: We are always in the boot room. JT and I type away all week. You just only choose to join us during big games. We are here 24/7. leaving only for sandwiches, beers, and Tinactin.
[Comment from andrew]
No Milan Derby Bootroom??? C,mon I thought this was Football -
[Comment from The Smart American]
Dortmund is an industrial city of about 600,000 in northwestern Germany. It was rebuilt after WW2 because the US fought a long hard battle where much of the original city was destroyed. It has long traditions of music and theater. Also about 70% German population. It is known for some medium sized IT companies, and . It has historically been one of the significant cities on the Rhine. -
James Tyler: Love them all. Sterling especially. Barca will be after him, just you watch.
[Comment from Danny]
JT, what are your thoughts on Raheem Sterling, Suso and Andrew Wisdom? -
James Tyler: We can't Boot Room everything. But we'll be watching. And we'll have coverage. Promise.
[Comment from Interisti]
Wh are you guys so baised towards Serie A. No boot room for the derby? -
Roger Bennett: Mike. We did not mean to mock your brother. he is just not too good at football.
James Tyler: GOAL - Anderlecht 0, Malaga 1 - Eliseu 46"
[Comment from Mike]
Henderson isnt a flop. Why to people keep labeling him as one? -
[Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
RT @benshave: Eliseu's goal for Málaga, via @davidjaca: dailymotion.com/video/xu2ame_m… As @acjimbo might say, he's absolutely thraked it. -
James Tyler: Seriously, I'm waiting to buy my Newcastle Jets shirt. They sold out of the first Heskey printing. Will be a great collector's item.
[Comment from Mr. Trololo]
Are you looking forward to seeing Heskey's debut with the Newcastle Jets? -
James Tyler: No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
[Comment from Dave]
And I am sure you sound like Nickleback -
James Tyler: ALSO, a Clasico boot room on Sunday afternoon. Get. In.
James Tyler: To whet the whistle: we'll have another Boot Room bright and early on Saturday for Man City v. Sunderland. You can send in your questions via chat or on Twitter -- tagged #FCbootroom -- and Sir Ian Darke (amen) and Macca will answer the pick of the crop during half-time.
James Tyler: So many choices. Let's get Robbie Keane back for another farewell tour.
Roger Bennett: Final score predictions please. 2-1 City. 87th minute goal kneed in by Nasri
[Comment from FSG]
Whats the next great flop (Cole, Henderson, Carroll, Acquilani) we should buy? (as a club) -
James Tyler: Yes "axe" as in "guitar." I look like Slash and strum like I'm in Coldplay. Not really.
Roger Bennett: Yes. a good one. and this one.
[Comment from Rodrigo]
You guys were mentioning another chat earlier. Does ESPN really have two chats simultaneously covering the Champions League? -
Roger Bennett: Quick plug. follow us on Twitter
me: @rogbennett (Foo Fighters)
him: @jamestylerespn (axe murderer) -
[Comment from Pog]
If Jan is right, that makes Dortmund sort of like the German version of Sheffield. -
[Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
RT @101greatgoals: GIF: Gervinho's terrific low drive v Olympiakos 101greatgoals.com/gallery/gimage… -
Roger Bennett: I love Rob Stone
Roger Bennett: Only chance of getting on the field is as a mascot
James Tyler: No.
[Comment from iHARTthequeen]
Will Joe Cole ever come good for Liverpool? -
[Comment from Jan]
Rog - ex-industrial Center - crappy local Beer - absolutley nuts for soccer -
James Tyler: One more Dortmund tip, Rog:
Roger Bennett: Eli... ok. back to that one. I think he is an elite player. But he is lost in the Liverpool set up. Being made to create and finish. Like a Quarterback asked to catch his own passes.
[Comment from bs]
Can Deep Freeze Cold Spray be sent to the "Crap Part of SoHo"? The logistics alone are a nightmare... -
[Comment from Bryce]
Not a City fan, but surely they must be disappointed. Dortmund had the better chances and Hart is doing well to keep them in it. -
[Comment from Kevin McCarthy]
One of Dortmund's "Sister Cities" (or twin cities) is Buffalo, NY. Another is Leeds. That might give you an indication of what Dortmund is like. -
[Comment from Eli]
I do want to hear where you think Suarez sits in terms of EPL strikers -
Roger Bennett: Which city has better music? Cluj or Bate?
Roger Bennett: City fans... how are you feeling about the first 45? buoyant? grateful to post?
James Tyler: Nice callback to yesterday's Boot Room.
[Comment from Marc]
It's a mix between West Virginia and Westeros. -
James Tyler: My fingers ache from keyboard-bashing. Could use aerosol intervention.
[Comment from Ben]
Rog: It's not in America, so why bother -
James Tyler: Send me a case, Jan!
[Comment from Jan in Cardiff]
Just saw a commercial for the Magic Spray here in Europe. Apparently it's called Deep Freeze Cold Spray. -
Roger Bennett: Paradise.
[Comment from bs]
Dortmund is the Cluj of Germany... -
Roger Bennett: Better
[Comment from Dan]
Rog: It's on the Rhine. -
Roger Bennett: Americans know everything. I love this country
[Comment from Charlie]
Rog: It's in Germany. -
James Tyler: Neven.
[Comment from Mr. Trololo]
John Cena vs Subotic, who do you think will win JT? -
James Tyler: Not really. I just rate Joe Hart. Is that an awful offense?
[Comment from maverick]
I'm detecting some serious Man City bias in this chat from JT, I am not here for that -
Roger Bennett: Does anyone in this chat know anything about Dortmund? The city. Not the team. Please enlighten us. Educate us.
[Comment from Jack]
Mancini needs to sign Rene Higuita in the next five minutes, and put him on. It's the only way. -
[Comment from Steve]
Well, Hart is an elite shot-stopper - no one would argue that - but for a top keeper he gives up TONS of dangerous rebounds. -
James Tyler: Love it. I actually want the drunk messages, so please, Paddy. Speed dial.
[Comment from Paddy Kenny]
I'm going to leave drunk messages on your phone if you don't talk about me as a top-10 keeper in the world at least once -
Roger Bennett: JT -- City will feel they have to win this game. Dortmund do not.
James Tyler: Kompany and Hart dependable. Silva looking more menacing and Dortmund willing to give plenty of room behind their offside trap for Aguero and Dzeko to try and exploit.
Roger Bennett: Liverpool. every time. have you heard Flock of Seagulls Doug? they invented Rock and Roll.
James Tyler: Compelling half-time question. But to go back to the game for a minute, I'd say Mancini is happy with things so far if he had to be honest.
[Comment from Doug GFOP]
Better city for music Manchester or Liverpool? -
[Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
@eaamalyon Aye, there. That's what I meant. He was loaned to 'Boro, wasn't he? -
James Tyler: I'm mulling someone other than Dzeko. Don't think this game fits his skill set. Aguero needs someone as pacey and cheeky as he is.
Roger Bennett: Big surprise of the first half? Subotic look like an axe murderer to you JT? He seems a bit more like the Foo Fighters biggest fan. USMNT fans. We dont need him. Bocanegra will last until 2022. And that Cameron. Not too shabby...
Roger Bennett: Loss of Garcia really hurts City. Yaya anchored to the middle third, unable to go forward, which has meant their possession lacks penetration. If you were Mancini, what changes would you be mulling to open up Dortmund who have appeared relatively comfortable?
[Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
Why pay 300m for strikers when you can depend on a 1m goalkeeper from Peterborough? #MCFC -
James Tyler: GOAL - Arsenal 1, Olympiacos 1 - Mitroglou on the verge of half time
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
Well, well. Mitroglou headed that like Alan Smith himself. Greek journalists in the press box making a hell of racket. How unprofessional. -
James Tyler: HALF TIME: Man City 0, Borussia Dortmund 0. Anything one goalie can do, the other can do better.
James Tyler: A brilliant parry by the world's most overrated shot-stopper!
James Tyler: Superb save by Joe "Not a top 3 keeper" Hart! Robs Lewandowski from close range!
[Comment from Manuel Neuer]
How in the world is Joe Hart better than me? -
Roger Bennett: Great question. Who would you rather have on your team. Suarez or Torres?
[Comment from HopeSolo]
Where does Suarez rank in the EPL strikers? -
[Comment from Arjun]
Cech is second best goalie after St. Iker -
James Tyler: Chance for City! Good move from left to right, Zabaleta's cross falls tastily for David Silva on the edge of the six yard box but shanks it over the bar. May have taken a deflection on its way to Silva and put him off. Alas. Still 0-0.
Roger Bennett: A bit too Alvin Ailey that, even for David Silva
James Tyler: Nailed it, Andy. Hart failed to save a penalty once so he's rubbish.
[Comment from Andy]
Pirlo and his Paneka say hi to Joe Hart and England. 1966' -
[Comment from Jay (Wash DC)]
Gervinho looked completely lost for most of the first half...then does that. Frustrating for a fan, but I guess we'll take it? -
James Tyler: 7th all-time. Way ahead of Brad Friedel but far behind Robert Green.
Roger Bennett: Where does Marcus Hahnemann rate in the bet goalkeeper in the world debate JT?
James Tyler: He's the Edin Dzeko of the Emirates Stadium, Brian.
[Comment from Brian]
Goal for Arsenal. For a "maligned striker" Gervinho has a lot of goals this season -
[Comment from Jim from Reno]
Time to let Balotelli loose like Godzilla on Hummels and Subotic. -
James Tyler: GOAL - Arsenal 1, Olympiacos 0 - Gervinho continues to befuddle the pundits with goals.
James Tyler: Indeed, Andy. Biased for having an opinion, because ranking football players is the most objective pastime around.
[Comment from Andy]
You're having a laugh JT, so bias -
James Tyler: GOAL - Ajax 0, Real Madrid 1 - Cristiano Ronaldo, 42"
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
Gervinho was no-one's idea of a prolific finisher but that's two great goals in two games. -
James Tyler: Three minutes to half time at the Etihad.
Roger Bennett: Like Police Academy movies.
[Comment from Charlie]
I swear, the second and fifth group games are ALWAYS boring. -
James Tyler: It is slowly gaining momentum. Both keepers superlative thus far but Hart with more work to do, arguably.
[Comment from Alex]
How likely is "Das Romp" looking at the moment -
James Tyler: For all of City's big business moves, the best signing they've made in years? Joe Hart. 1m pounds from Peterborough.
[Comment from Mr. Trololo]
Roger Bennett: Dzeko and Aguero yet to complete a pass. Tevez time?
James Tyler: Top 3. Casillas and Buffon. And Hart.
[Comment from Michael]
Where does Joe Hart rank as far as top keepers in the world? -
James Tyler: Must be leftover Jabulanis, S04th.
[Comment from S04th]
One popped in the Shalke game too. Rubbish ball design? -
[Comment from Drew]
The young french midfielder Coquelin looks out of his depth...,and the greek champions are not that deep! -
James Tyler: Dortmund getting livelier by the second.
Roger Bennett: Like Mel Gibson and Danny Glover but more unhinged.
James Tyler: Chance for Dortmund! Gotze unmarked in the box, Hart denies him! Moments later, Lukasz Piszczek has his shot palmed onto the bar!
Roger Bennett: Joe Hart. Post. Best Buddy Movie.
Roger Bennett: Dortmund. Joe Hart. Post.
James Tyler: Steve Bruce-Gary Pallister.
[Comment from Matt-Phila]
Best CB Buddy Cop movie? I like Subotic-Hummels, but Agger-Skrtel not too far behind... -
James Tyler: Still 0-0. Just a yellow card so far to report.
[Comment from Alex]
Any news on the Aderlecht game? -
[Comment from Sanchini]
2nd popped ball of the game* Sabotage! -
[Comment from Shawn]
Olympiacos with 4 shots, two on target, Arsenal with only one of each. -
James Tyler: Chance for Dortmund! Lovely passing move along the fringe of the City box ends with Lewandowski dummying to give Schmelzer an open shot. Fine defending by Zabaleta to block his shot.
Roger Bennett: nicely worked by Dortmund. Could not find the finish. German Arsenal starting to make sense...
James Tyler: GOAL: Dynamo Kiev 2, Dinamo Zagreb 0 - Josip Pivaric 33" OG
James Tyler: Lucky Arsenal...
[Comment from Charlie]
CHANCE FOR OLYMPIAKOS! Over the bar from five yards out!! -
James Tyler: Chance for Dortmund! Half clearance by David Silva lands for Neven "Axe Murderer" Subotic and being a center back, he wellies his half-volley wide of the mark.
James Tyler: A popped ball. That still happens.
Roger Bennett: Bit of a plodding first half. The poor man's Capital One Cup
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
Machado - gottae score, gottae score. Terrible defending etc.... -
James Tyler: Most exciting thing thus far this afternoon?
[Comment from Polident]
John Brewin's twitter pic looks like he was an extra in the Hangover. -
[Comment from GRACE]
Ball popped in Ajax Madrid game. -
James Tyler: Nasri gives the corner to BVB and sparks their counterattack up the other end. Schmelzer wins a corner off Gael Clichy.
James Tyler: Chance for City! Aguero has a rifling effort from 35 yards and it's superbly palmed over the top by Weidenfeller. Corner for City. Great vision by Silva to find Aguero with room in the middle.
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
Oxlade-Chamberlain's ball to Jenkinson was poor. The hype machine may be on his side at the moment but Walcott could still be better option. -
Roger Bennett: Kun Aguero. What a magic gent. movement. imagination and menace.
James Tyler: That's not good, Grace. Still 0-0 at Amsterdam Arena.
[Comment from GRACE]
Ajax player missed right in front of net, mistake by Casillas as ball went through his hands. -
[Comment from ESPNFC via Twitter]
Javi Garcia has sustained an injury, so Man City bring on Jack Rodwell in his place. -
James Tyler: SUB FOR MAN CITY: Javi Garcia off, Jack Rodwell on. Well, then. This should enliven BVB's attacking spirit.
James Tyler: BVB for life, I suppose.
James Tyler: Shinji Kagawa's in the stands to watch this one.
James Tyler: Javi Garcia has a muscle knack. He's down and waiting for a sub.
Roger Bennett: Yaya leads City with 48 touches though none in the final third in the field.
James Tyler: He's one of the better DEFENSIVE RBs.
[Comment from Dago]
is it out of line to think Zabaleta is one of the best RB in the Prem? -
James Tyler: Superb tackle by Vinny Kompany to deny a stampeding Kuba Blaszczykowski run after a good BVB break down the right flank.
James Tyler: Another slick break for City down the right, cued once more by a long ball. Zabaleta nods the high pass down for Silva, gets the return ball yet his cross is cleared.
James Tyler: NO. Really not. City testing BVB's lazy offside trap/high backline to mild effect, but nothing momentous yet.
[Comment from Jomentum]
I'm late to the party. Good game thus far? -
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
Koscielny with the type of tackle that Steve Williams and Peter Storey would have been proud of. Nowadays, that's a yellow card. -
James Tyler: Indeed, Brain. He was onside but linesman robbed him. Something for Mancini to get emo about.
[Comment from Brain]
Dzeko was very much onsides. It wasn't even that close. -
James Tyler: Real Madrid: Shading possession, four shots on goal, no goals.
[Comment from rogbennett via Twitter]
Sir Alex is either overwhelmed by Man City's hospitality or worn out by the club scene in Cluj pic.twitter.com/Zz3CCAWY (via @GMD0012) -
James Tyler: Half-chance for Dortmund: another cross finds Lewandowski but he can't guide his header on target. Good defending to keep him off-balance and prevent any power in the effort.
James Tyler: Be nice to Gary. Was an absolute hellion of a player, one that made everyone loathe him. Yet he's quite astute on the ol' tactical observations.
[Comment from Matt-Phila]
You know the game sucks if Gary Neville's commentary is the most entertaining part... -
[Comment from Drew]
He's not on the pitch, but Micah Richards could be a linebacker. -
James Tyler: GOAL - Schalke 1 (Draxler, 26"), Montpellier 1
James Tyler: Chance for City! Weidenfeller stonewalls Aguero's far break. Superb pass by David Silva to set him free behind Mats Hummels.
James Tyler: Indeed. Could have. Didn't, Tarik. See also: Giuseppe Rossi, Brede Hangeland.
Roger Bennett: pic.twitter.com/HfuM08g9
[Comment from Tarik]
Subotic could have played for USMNT ? -
James Tyler: Two BVB center backs lazily allowed the Bosnian to sneak in between.
James Tyler: Dzeko has a break on goal but he's offside. Relax, folks.
James Tyler: This game dangerously close to rivaling Stoke City v. Hull City, 1965.
Roger Bennett: Yaya. Next.
[Comment from Matt W]
Which athlete on the pitch today would be the best American Footballer? -
Roger Bennett: I just noticed the font on the back of Dortmund's jerseys. Not sure how to describe it. Gets marks for effort.
[Comment from Mike]
Bring back APOEL! -
[Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
The rain at the Etihad is doing wonders for various hairstyles. #Subotic #Schmelztastic -
[Comment from Keller]
Actually Boston has more days of rain per year than Seattle does, so a better comparison would be to Boston. -
James Tyler: At present, I'd suggest CFR Cluj could ruffle either side's feathers.
James Tyler: Aguero does well to retain the ball under pressure from three Dortmund defenders. He passes back to Javi Garcia on the halfway line, and the ex-Benfica man promptly thumps a long pass out for a Dortmund throw-in. Magic stuff.
Roger Bennett: City have no width at all. Like United last night. Dortmund are playing it down the flanks to little effect.
James Tyler: Two titanic attacking forces, two defending league champions, two rather languid rhythms on the field.
James Tyler: Inar: would you believe me if I told you it's been a rather dull game so far?
[Comment from Inar]
I assume the pitch is seeing no action as the weather has taken over chat. -
[Comment from Jan in Cardiff]
That can't be right. Manchester has to be over 1000. -
[Comment from TwistyMaze LittlePassages]
no way he plucks - that's all waxing -
James Tyler: Neither side able to really implement much so far. 22 minutes of sedate passing with the occasional errant shot. Hart and Weidenfeller with one good save a piece: Hart to deny Gotze's 20-yard cracker and Weidenfeller's sharp block after Aguero beat the offside trap.
[Comment from Doug]
Seattle averages 952 mm of rain per year. Manchester 806mm. -
Roger Bennett: What do people feel about Mancini's eyebrows. does he overpluck?
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
No doubting it, Cazorla is genuine quality. Saw Nasri do something similar at his Arsenal peak to that slalom run. Cheeky bid from City? -
[Comment from burlsss]
arsenal with 79% possession. hopefully some end product soon... -
[Comment from Jim]
Both Manchester are big, rainy cities on the northwest side a a large continent. Both are also crap places. One has a good football club. The other has Man City. -
James Tyler: First BVB attack in a while but a crossfield pass intended for LB Schmelzer on the flank skids out for a throw-in.
Roger Bennett: Great question. If any meteorologists are tuned in, please enlighten us. I would bet yes.
[Comment from Kevin]
is manchester rainier than seattle? -
James Tyler: Dortmund quite content to let City hog possession.
James Tyler: 20 minutes in and the game is as gentle as the shower currently sprinkling the 22 players.
[Comment from Charlie]
Rainier city: Manchester or Seattle? -
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
I don't think Herr Podolski has touched the ball yet. -
Roger Bennett: This is like watching something out of Deuteronomy
James Tyler: Reminds me of Dennis Farina's lamentations about England in the movie "Snatch": Bad food, worse weather, miserable country. He's wrong of course.
[Comment from Jim from Reno]
Klopp should consider contact lenses... -
[Comment from Manchester Tourism Board]
Visit Manchester: Rainiest city in a rainy country. -
Roger Bennett: We are actually playing in it. JT is Dzeko. I am Jurgen Klopp.
[Comment from Ethan]
Just out of curiosity, are you at the game or just watching on TV? -
Roger Bennett: Manchester. Rainiest city in England. Fact.
James Tyler: City with 62% of the ball so far. Well done.
James Tyler: Hart springs off his line to scoop the ball off Lewandowski's feet. Gael Clichy needs to be sharper with that offside trap.
James Tyler: Little to report. Just 4 shots on goal. Quiet.
Roger Bennett: It is Columbus Crew-esque
[Comment from Chris (CLE)]
how's the other group A match between porto and psg coming along? -
James Tyler: It's a wonderful stadium, Pete. One of my faves to visit.
[Comment from Pete]
I know y'all aren't watching, but atmosphere at Ajax is amazing. -
James Tyler: Park Chu-Young.
[Comment from Guest]
Worse Gunner signing: Giroud or Chamakh? -
Roger Bennett: Which hype. About Karim Ait Fana? Yes. Real player.
James Tyler: City pressure in the Dortmund box as BVB takes an eternity to clear the ball from Silva's clever through-ball for Zabaleta. Silva then fouls Schmelzer to ease the pressure.
[Comment from Chris H]
Have you embraced the hype then Rog? -
James Tyler: Could be an upset in the making there...
James Tyler: GOAL - Schalke 0, Montpellier 1 - Karim Ait Fana 13"
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
Cazorla is the new wizard of the Emirates. A latterday Vladimir Petrovic. -
James Tyler: Hummels is superb... UNLESS your name is Mario Balotelli. The German had a nightmare in the Euro 2012 semi-final.
Roger Bennett: Dortmund feisty. Playing with belief here. Going to be interesting to see if they can sustain this work rate.
[Comment from Carrolls TopKnot]
How good is Hummels? Kompany/Pique/Vidic good? -
James Tyler: Set piece amounts to nothing. Gotze may have considered passing for Blaszczykowski on the overlap but took the shot himself.
James Tyler: Chance for Dortmund! Off the post! Quick break up the middle be Lewandowski, he finds Gotze wide right and the young tyro shoots low across Hart. Goalie does well to tip it off the post and out for a corner.
Roger Bennett: Yes. I spend a lot of time worrying about how the travel to the World Club Cup would suit them when they win the Champions League. But yes.
[Comment from d]
Rog - can Everton handle playing in Europe if their form holds this season? -
[Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
#MCFC finding early luck with Route 1, of all things. -
Roger Bennett: Hummels did well there. Dortmund have leaked goals recently. Impressive against the bulky Dzeko.
James Tyler: Calm defending by Mats Hummels to shrug off Edin Dzeko and stop the Bosnian from getting to another long ball.
James Tyler: Indeed, Nate. Blame the bean-counters.
Roger Bennett: A new contract will do that for a player.
[Comment from Pog]
I think Silva may be finally finding his lost form. He was excellent last Saturday. -
[Comment from Nate]
As a valencia fan I still get angry at the thought of what could have been if David Silva, David Villa, and Jordi Alba hadn't been sold the last couple years. -
[Comment from Shawn]
Arsenal showing some "good tenacity down the flanks," against Olympiacos. -
James Tyler: And then Zabaleta. Ouch. Unmarked inside the box, played in nicely but hammers it, Gerrard-style, into Row ZZ.
James Tyler: Chance for City! Ball over the top finds Aguero but Weidenfeller comes off his line sharply to block it.
Roger Bennett: That was like David Silva of old. Or of last season any way. Great movement in crevices of space to craft that chance...
James Tyler: Two good headers but still finding his range.
[Comment from Raghav]
The polish striker is so wasteful -
James Tyler: Yaya Toure lazily gives it away to Dortmund but the visitors can't do anything with it.
[Comment from Shawn]
At this rate, Kiev will win 30-0. OptaMath. -
James Tyler: They are early on. Plenty of movement from Gotze. Both full-backs eager to get upfield, too.
[Comment from Keller]
Dortmund need to get Reus and Gotze heavily involved if they want to pull off an upset, I think. -
James Tyler: Dortmund targeting the right flank. Another header for Lewandowski, getting above Zabaleta but puts it over the bar.
[Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
Best thing about English winters? Roberto Mancini's scarf collection. Man wears 'em like mood rings. Today's: sassy. -
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
Not quite a sell-out at the Emirates. Wallets probably groaning after that £63 minimum game with Chelsea. -
James Tyler: GOAL - Dynamo Kiev 1, Dinamo Zagreb 0 - Oleh Gusev, 3"
Roger Bennett: Crucial for City they move Yaya into the final third... without him forward, they have created little this season
[Comment from Guest]
"rain starting to fall over North London" huh.... never heard that one before -
James Tyler: Some gentle early sparring from both sides. Neither quite willing to reveal themselves yet.
James Tyler: Very slow tempo at present. Gotze tries a bit of speed but his cross is blocked. Piszczek's follow-up cross sails into the stands.
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
Deluge at the Emirates -
Roger Bennett: "Like bumblebees"
James Tyler: No goals in the seven games thus far.
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
Olympiakos fans booing a session of Arsenal keep-ball. -
James Tyler: Seattle Sounders.
[Comment from Bryce]
Since you're based in the USA, who wins the AL West? -
James Tyler: Early chance for Dortmund! Schmelzer gets down the left and crosses for Lewandowski, but his header is well wide.
James Tyler: City in full attacking brio. Aguero nudged down in the Dortmund box but ref's uninterested.
Roger Bennett: Klopp. Full on Bond Baddie back in the Roger Moore days. By the way. I love it when the guys in LA have to commentate. True pros.
James Tyler: Already, Weidenfeller forced to make a save!
James Tyler: We're off!
James Tyler: I'll say 2-2.
James Tyler: Though there's something satisfying about yelling "Reus!"
Roger Bennett: prediction? 2-1 City.
James Tyler: Sven Bender. Best name in this game? I think so.
James Tyler: Teams again for City v. Dortmund:
MAN CITY (4-3-3): Hart; Zabaleta, Kompany, Nastasic, Clichy; David Silva, Javi Garcia, Yaya Toure, Nasri; Dzeko, Aguero.
DORTMUND (4-2-3-1): Weidenfeller; Piszczek, Subotic, Hummels, Schmelzer; Gundogan, Sven Bender; Blaszczykowski, Gotze, Reus; Lewandowski. -
Roger Bennett: Bobby McFerrin i think
[Comment from Walrus]
Who wrote that song? Such wonderful lyrics. -
Roger Bennett: Religiously. Big Barbara Hershey fan.
[Comment from United Fan from Texas]
Roger -- Did you just admit to watching Beaches???? -
[Comment from Cafu]
Imagine your daughter brings home Subotic one day? -
Roger Bennett: It is always playing faintly in my mind. even during REM sleep.
[Comment from black_bile]
Are you singing the theme right now, Rog? -
James Tyler: Don't be silly, Sir Alex. If I could publish all the comments praising Dzeko, I would. As such, it'd ruin the chat. It's something called an opinion, and we all have them.
[Comment from SAF]
Anything that you don't agree with is unfair to you JT. Prime example of commentator bias. -
[Comment from KevNJ]
Roger Bennett: The moment you have all been waiting for... more emotional than Beaches.
James Tyler: SCHALKE (4-3-1-2): 36-Unnerstall; 22-Uchida, 15-Papadopoulos, 4-Howedes, 23-Fuchs; 12-Hoger, 33-Neustadter, 31-Draxler; 10-Holtby; 20-Pukki, 25-Huntelaar.
Subs: 27-Barnetta, 17-Farfan, 11-Afellay, 1-Fahrmann, 32-Matip, 28-Moritz, 35-Kolasinac.
MONTPELLIER (4-3-3): 16-Jourdren; 2-Bocaly, 3-Yanga-Mbiwa, 4-Hilton, 22-Stambouli; 10-Belhanda, 23-Saihi, 13-Estrada; 20-Cabella, 19-Camara, 18-Ait Fana.
Subs: 27-Jeunechamp, 12-Congre, 9-Charbonnier, 1-Pionnier, 6-Marveaux, 15-Tinhan, 11-Herrera. -
James Tyler: There it is, last one.
[Comment from Raghav]
Schalke Montpellier lineup please -
[Comment from Shawn]
35-24, Roger. Wait.... I think I'm getting my EA Sports games mixed up... -
[Comment from Doug]
City 1-2 Dortmund on simulation for me. -
James Tyler: Yes, Matt. Kovacic is starting on left side of midfield in Zagreb's 4-2-3-1.
[Comment from Woody]
10-0 dortmund -
[Comment from Matt]
Dinamo Zagreb lineup? Does it feature Kovacic? -
Roger Bennett: Has anyone played this game already on FIFA 13? What was the score?
James Tyler: SAF: Did you miss last season entirely? And Dzeko's super sub appearance in the title-deciding game? And his late winner vs. Fulham last weekend? He's City's version of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, except he is capable of playing 90 minutes.
[Comment from SAF]
Dzeko? Plenty of goals? JT - Are you for real?!?! -
[Comment from Mark]
Rog, are you glad Arteta is getting a run in the UCL or is he dead to you now? -
James Tyler: Unfair. I think many will disagree with you. Including me.
[Comment from WiganFan]
Dzeko = terrible player with great moments. -
James Tyler: Ha! Too true, Rog.
James Tyler: Indeed. I've barely enough room in here to simulate a booking motion to a referee.
Roger Bennett: James. You are like a bar mitzvah DJ
James Tyler: Taking one more lineup request before we get tucked into the Man City game.
Roger Bennett: Tight fit in the Boot Room. The English guys dare not enter for fear of Athletes Foot.
James Tyler: PORTO v. PSG
PORTO (4-1-4-1): 1-Helton, 2-Danilo, 4-Maicon, 30-Otamendi, 26-Alex Sandro; 25-Fernando; 17-Varela, 3-Lucho Gonzalez, 8-Joao Moutinho, 10-Rodriguez; 9-Martinez.
Subs: 35-Defour, 24-Freitas, 13-Lopes, 6-Andre Castro, 22-Mangala, 11-Kleber, 27-Atsu.
PSG (4-3-1-2): 30-Sirigu; 23-van der Wiel, 2-Thiago Silva, 3-Sakho, 17-Maxwell; 20-Chantome, 24-Verratti, 14-Matuidi; 10-Nene; 7-Menez, 18-Ibrahimovic.
Subs: 22-Armand, 19-Gameiro, 1-Douchez, 26-Jallet, 11-Lavezzi, 13-Alex, 27-Pastore. -
[Comment from Bryce]
Give us Porto v PSG. I heard Pastore won't start. -
James Tyler: We're on different sides of the ocean. We're rebellious. We have boots in our room.
[Comment from Bryce]
Why don't you all just make one chat together? I'd rather have all the commentators at once. -
James Tyler: Yes; you read correctly. Kaka is getting some minutes. Now, perhaps that's because of El Clasico on Sunday, or maybe Jose is being rather gentle against Ajax. Could be a bit of both.
[Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
Only one change for Arsenal from the weekend, but it spells that Oxlade-Chamberlain is ahead of Walcott in the pecking order. #afc -
James Tyler: REAL MADRID: Casillas; Arbeloa, Ramos, Pepe, Marcelo; Alonso, Essien, KAKA!!!!!; Callejon, Benzema, Ronaldo.
[Comment from greg]
wats real madrids lineup?? -
James Tyler: I love Dzeko, Rog. He's the Bosnian Darren Bent: maligned for no reason. Scores plenty of goals.
James Tyler: No Diaby; he's out at least three weeks. Coquelin expected to carry the load in midfield and protect Mikel Arteta to playmake.
Roger Bennett: Dzeko quite the flavor of the month. I love Jonathan Wilson's quote on him -- he cant tell whether Dzeko is a great player with terrible moments, or a terrible player with great moments.
James Tyler: ARSENAL (4-3-3): 24-Mannone, 25-Jenkinson, 6-Koscielny, 5-Vermaelen, 28-Gibbs; 8-Arteta, 19-Cazorla, 22-Coquelin; 15-Oxlade-Chamberlain, 27-Gervinho, 9-Podolski.
Subs: 20-Djourou, 14-Walcott, 23-Arshavin, 16-Ramsey, 12-Giroud, 11-Andre Santos, 60-Shea.
OLYMPIAKOS (4-2-3-1): 42-Megyeri, 26-Diakite, 24-Manolas, 15-Contreras, 20-Holebas; 23-Slovas, 2-Maniatis; 27-Greco, 19-Fuster, 5-Machado; 11-Mitroglou.
Subs: 1-Carroll, 93-Abdoun, 7-Ibagaza, 3-Modesto, 9-Pantelic, 87-Diogo, 25-Lykogiannis. -
[Comment from RunOfTheDill]
arsenal. -
James Tyler: Rog, but does that include a teenaged Serbian defender? Maybe.
Roger Bennett: Lescott is guaranteed to switch off twice every five games. unforced errors. always has... tonight Mancini needs players he can trust...
[Comment from Arjan]
what is it about lescott that Mancini doesnt rate -
James Tyler: Other lineups you lot fancy before we hunker down for Man City vs. Dortmund?
James Tyler: Stick with City-BVB. With one eye on Real Madrid at Ajax.
[Comment from Ian (LFC)]
I can only watch 1 match.. which should it be? -
James Tyler: Excellent. Chat fight!
[Comment from Jan in Cardiff]
FYI, Chris has been taking comments in the other chat about whose chat room is better. I voted yours. -
Roger Bennett: Going to be interesting to see how City set up today and how deep Yaya Toure plays. Mancini has called this a must win. City have leaked 16 goals in their last 8 games. Dortmund are loaded with attacking talent. What will Mancini commit to the attacking third?
James Tyler: He'll be out a minimum of eight weeks.
[Comment from GRACE]
Any updates on Puyol's injury yesterday? -
James Tyler: To move back before we move forward: low cross was intended for Pazzini at near post but Hubocan shinned it into his own net under pressure.
[Comment from mack ry]
what happened on the Zenit own goal the matchcast made it seem like he shot it from inside AC's box into his own net? -
James Tyler: DORTMUND (4-2-3-1): Weidenfeller; Piszczek, Subotic, Hummels, Schmelzer; Gundogan, Sven Bender; Blaszczykowski, Gotze, Reus; Lewandowski.
Roger Bennett: Nastasic preffered over Lescott again.
James Tyler: MAN CITY (4-3-3): Hart; Zabaleta, Kompany, Nastasic, Clichy; David Silva, Javi Garcia, Yaya Toure, Nasri; Dzeko, Aguero.
James Tyler: Right then. LINEUP TIME.
James Tyler: Excellent point.
[Comment from Bogey]
@JT regarding Giroud: He looks just as lost without Montpellier as they do without him. -
James Tyler: It's tasty for Madridistas, Shawn.
Roger Bennett: I weep everytime i hear the full version of this CL anthem. I also cried during The Blindside
[Comment from Shawn]
The last stat I saw was that Real have won their last four meetings with Ajax by a combined 12-0. Not so tasty, that stat. -
James Tyler: We'll get to Arsenal in a minute. But the midfield of Cazorla, Coquelin and Arteta is lacking Diaby's bit. Coquelin's still a bit raw.
[Comment from Bryce]
[Comment from Roshan(AFC)]
James, how much of Diaby will be missed tonight? what are other options with arsenal? -
[Comment from rogbennett via Twitter]
Our reliably mediocre @Grantland33 podcast craps out another lukewarm episode es.pn/Vvt7ZO -
James Tyler: Agree. He's been better so far this year.
[Comment from Andy]
Reus will be >>>>> Kagawa just you watch -
James Tyler: Maybe, but Ajax has lost plenty of stars in recent seasons. They're arguably not even the best team in the Eredivisie at present. (That would be PSV.)
[Comment from Andrew]
The Ajax vs Madrid game is just as tasty, no? I mean Ajax have all the abilities to beat Madrid. -
James Tyler: No, Carroll. But he rivals Tony Pulis for sideline sartorialism. Tracksuits and baseball caps.
[Comment from Carrolls TopKnot]
Is Jurgen Klopp a chronic nose-picker like Jogi Low? -
Roger Bennett: For EPL fans who are not so familiar with Dortmund. Think Kagawa. Think Sahin of Liverpool. Both sharpened their skills in the garish yellow.
James Tyler: Every fan of every club wishes that, EG.
[Comment from Every Gunner]
I wish Wenger would sign Mario Götze -
James Tyler: No. Schalke. Huntelaar is a beast and Montpellier looks lost without Giroud.
[Comment from Zach]
Monpellier v Schalke tossup or not? please explain -
James Tyler: Indeed, Stephen. THANK YOU.
Roger Bennett: Thanks Chris/Stephen
[Comment from Stephen]
Chris Murphy and Matchday Live are significantly better than your CONSTANT CAPS LOCK FRENZY, James Tyler. -
James Tyler: I think the Arsenal comparison is because they have relied a lot on youth players over the years. Gotze was homegrown for the most part, and that is a major point of pride in a footballing country that now raises its own stars instead of simply buying them. Well, except for Bayern.
Roger Bennett: Big boost for City? Maicon is injured.
Roger Bennett: D. Only by Premier League-centric fans. Dortmund have won the Bundesliga twice on the run. But like all of Mancini's teams to date, they have been naive in Europe. Big test for both teams... Dortmund crudely compared as the Arsenal of Germany -- whatever that means...
James Tyler: Porto. Did you see PSG's bank balance? Rivals the GDP of Burundi.
[Comment from RunOfTheDill]
whose the upsetter? Porto or PSG? PSG is like Man City under Hughes, pretty, but still not there yet. -
[Comment from ESPNFC via Twitter]
Arsenal, Man City, Real Madrid and PSG all play in the UCL tonight and you can follow all the action in MatchDay LIVE es.pn/Wks2mY -
James Tyler: ALSO: Prem fans currently in love with Shinji Kagawa? He was Dortmund's driving force last season.
James Tyler: Rog, who's your player to watch today? The X-Factor? Gotze?
James Tyler: I think so. But it's marginal. Think they're the underdog by virtue of being the away team.
[Comment from d]
can it really be considered an upset if Dortmund win? -
James Tyler: We'll be focusing on City v. Dortmund primarily. But we will have an eye, ear and half a keyboard trained on the other six games. If you're watching Arsenal, for example, we'll almost certainly publish your comments of pain and frustration.
James Tyler: Follow both and then realize you want to stick with us after 10 minutes. Or not.
Roger Bennett: I expect to be typo ridden unless Joe Hart sees a lot of the ball...
[Comment from Doug]
How is this chat different than the Matchday Live chat? Which should I follow? Or follow both? -
James Tyler: Must remember: SZ before CZ
Roger Bennett: Going to be interesting watching Mario Götze use this as a platform to impress Arsene Wenger, and ultimately Manchester City…
James Tyler: Rog, I must admit I'm looking forward to testing my keyboard fingers on speedily typing those names. I fared well during the Euros but am clearly out of touch.
James Tyler: The kit battle is a key one. Dortmund's highlighter yellow-and-black against City's bland but proud sky-ish blue.
Roger Bennett: Yes JT. City will face the best Poland can throw at them. Striker Robert Lewandowski scored 22 goals in 34 Bundesliga matches last year. He is the attacking focal point. Jakub Blaszczykowski and Lukasz Piszczek will work the right flank. Marco Reus will gallop down the left.
[Comment from KevNJ]
Pulling for Dortmund today. Love seeing the rich clubs lose, and they have nice kits. -
[Comment from Bryce]
I'd love to see Dortmund advance at the expense of City. They play some brilliant football, and I'd love to see them do it against the big clubs (read: not City). -
[Comment from Jim from Reno]
I'm rooting for City. Because I bet on them. Otherwise I would have no reason to ever root for them. -
James Tyler: And, Rog, assembled on a comparatively shoestring budget to City's bloated squad.
Roger Bennett: I think we are in for a fascinating game in which both teams push each other physically and psychologically. Mancini was not kidding about Dortmund when he said ""In my opinion they are one of the best teams in Europe."
James Tyler: BVB: Mercurial coach in Jurgen Klopp. Several German NT stars like Hummels, Gotze, Reus. A man in Lewandowski to tap home the goals. Sublime team on the counter-attack, yet last season's iron-clad defense has been anything but in 2012-13.
[Comment from Pog]
Is there a capsule summary of Dortmund for bums like me who don't really know much about the Bundesliga? -
James Tyler: Jurgen Klopp was on the war path last week given shipping three goals to newly promoted Eintracht Frankfurt, a team they used to squash under their boots.
James Tyler: Honestly, I think they'll snatch even more. But Borussia Dortmund has been equally vulnerable so far this season. Weird how both City and BVB won their titles and have looked massively hungover so far this term.
[Comment from Brian Lara]
do u think dortmund will snatch a point today? -
[Comment from Huey]
I'm pulling for Dortmund. Nothing I like to see more than an angry Mancini. -
James Tyler: Oh, Rog. I'm ready. Been playing it on repeat since yesterday. Eyes welded open a la Clockwork Orange.
Roger Bennett: Good afternoon JT: Are you ready for an afternoon of the Champions League Theme Song?
James Tyler: I think most people will be rooting for.... Dortmund today? Read some English media saying that City was the team to cheer for, though that makes not a lick of sense. We love seeing the rich clubs fail, after all. Hope for the common man and all that.
James Tyler: Present star, Landon. I always buy him in FIFA 12 (and now, FIFA 13). Magic player.
[Comment from Landon]
Is El Shaarawy a future star? -
James Tyler: Will it be today? No time like the present.
James Tyler: My issue with Man City is this: when will they put together a coherent, back to front 90 minute performance?
James Tyler: Brain = LIVING THE DREAM.
[Comment from Brain]
I love having a job that allows me to simultaneously engage in the chat, watch the match, and TCB all at the same time. -
James Tyler: It was absurd, Ronnie. Brilliant even. Was oddly happy to see Pazzini influence the game-winning own goal. But man, did Hulk impress. Milan frightened of tackling him.
[Comment from Ronnie]
How about that Zenit Milan game?? -
[Comment from MrTuktoyaktuk]
It will be happy for me if Edin Dzeko scores 3 goals (but I'll take any amount). -
James Tyler: Note to readers: we do not condone the sentiments of TwistyMaze LittlePassages. However, if it works for you, enjoy!
[Comment from TwistyMaze LittlePassages]
Days like this are why I quit my job last Spring!!! The joys of being unemployed for ECL days!! -
[Comment from ESPNFC via Twitter]
Join @JamesTylerESPN and @rogbennett LIVE in the Boot Room for City/Dortmund and other #UCL matches, updates now. j.mp/PQ3PBt -
James Tyler: Indeed, Peter. INDEED.
[Comment from Peter]
booo work, yay boot room!! -
[Comment from Ian Mizel]
Go City! Big Day! Love from New York! -
James Tyler: It's a Champions League Boot Room. Good golly. Been so long since the last time. So long.
James Tyler: THE CHAAAAAMPIIIOOOONS
James Tyler: Happy Boot Room!
Shots (on goal)
Manchester City
Borussia Dortmund
Manchester City
Line-up | ||
POS | No | Name |
1 | Joe Hart |
4 | Vincent Kompany |
5 | Pablo Zabaleta |
22 | Gaël Clichy |
F | 45 | Mario Balotelli |
33 | Matija Nastasic |
8 | Samir Nasri |
D | 13 | Aleksandar Kolarov |
14 | Javi Garcia |
M | 17 | Jack Rodwell |
16 | Sergio Agüero |
21 | David Silva |
42 | Yaya Touré |
10 | Edin Dzeko |
Substitutes | ||
POS | No | Name |
G | 30 | Costel Pantilimon |
D | 6 | Joleon Lescott |
D | 13 | Aleksandar Kolarov |
M | 7 | James Milner |
M | 17 | Jack Rodwell |
F | 32 | Carlos Tevez |
F | 45 | Mario Balotelli |
Borussia Dortmund
Line-up | ||
POS | No | Name |
1 | Roman Weidenfeller |
4 | Neven Subotic |
15 | Mats Hummels |
D | 27 | Felipe Santana |
26 | Lukasz Piszczek |
29 | Marcel Schmelzer |
6 | Sven Bender |
8 | Ilkay Gündogan |
M | 19 | Kevin Großkreutz |
10 | Mario Götze |
M | 5 | Sebastian Kehl |
11 | Marco Reus |
16 | Jakub Blaszczykowski |
9 | Robert Lewandowski |
Substitutes | ||
POS | No | Name |
G | 20 | Mitchell Langerak |
D | 27 | Felipe Santana |
M | 5 | Sebastian Kehl |
M | 7 | Moritz Leitner |
M | 19 | Kevin Großkreutz |
M | 44 | Ivan Perisic |
F | 23 | Julian Schieber |
Match Stats
- Manchester City
- Borussia Dortmund
12(7) | Shots (on goal) | 22(10) |
11 | Fouls | 12 |
5 | Corner kicks | 6 |
6 | Offsides | 0 |
64% | Time of Possession | 36% |
2 | Yellow Cards | 2 |
0 | Red Cards | 0 |
9 | Saves | 6 |


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Solano's eBay sales of thousands of dollars worth of stolen county equipment is one of Santa Fe's highest-profile cases. But it involves a scenario different from the ones described in today's story. Instead of having to respond to allegations of wrongdoing, former Solano came forward himself and admitted, in November 2010, that he had sold thousands of dollars in county equipment on eBay.
Still, his attorney Brooke Gamble says the recent headlines involving her client were rushed and unfair. A case in point is the widely reported dollar figure attached to the county equipment he stole and then sold on eBay. Most media outlets cited it as $75,000, which Gamble says is plain wrong.
"What he took was a little less than $25,000," Gamble tells SFR.
The $25,000 decided in restitution was based on the market value of the equipment Solano stole. Many of the police vests he took were past their warranty, meaning their value was lower than before.
Gamble also adds that saying Solano will serve three months in jail, which most media have run with, is inaccurate. It's technically one year because his nine months of electric monitoring at home technically constitute jail, she says.
Solano, who started serving his stint in county jail a week and a half ago, declined an interview when SFR attempted a visit to him in jail.A county sheriff steals tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment, thereby requiring additional thousands of dollars to be spent in auditing the extent of his thievery. He loudly proclaims his remorse, and insists he will repay the debt in full. But a doormat of a judge determines that "payment in full" actually means the sheriff will repay dimes on the dollar for what he stole, leaving the working, law-abiding county residents to pick up the tab for the rest. Of course, he is also sentenced to essentially a few weeks of incarceration, all the while separated from all the other criminals, as the good sheriff's safety is of paramount concern.
Only in Santa Fe...


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