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Execs Keep Selling Their Facebook Stock – Time to Worry?
The market has been buzzing about the fact that three top executives of Facebook have taken their first opportunity to sell some of their stock in the social networking company.
The sales were part of 230 million shares awarded to top executives and employees prior to the IPO that were subject to lockup until last week.
According to Forbes, another 777 million shares awarded to Facebook employees will come off of lockup next week. It is expected that Facebook employees will continue to sell shares for the rest of the year.
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Why Facebook Stock Soared After Earnings Report
Facebook stock (Nasdaq: FB) was up almost 10% in the first 30 minutes of after-hours trading today (Tuesday) after the release of its third-quarter earnings report, its second as a public company.
Releasing earnings after market close, the social network leader posted earnings per share of 12 cents, on revenue of $1.26 billion, or 32% higher than the year-ago quarter.
While Facebook did not provide an outlook following its uninspiring second quarter release, analysts were looking for 11 cents per share on revenue of $1.2 billion, according to data from Thomas Reuters.
But this positive vibe doesn't mean Facebook's earnings problems are solved.
Will a Poor Facebook Earnings Report Seal the Stock's Fate?
The third-quarter Facebook earnings report will come out Oct. 23 after the markets close, and the results are looking increasingly dismal.
Despite a recent milestone (one billion users), a new "want" button feature and a "pay-to-promote post" option, the company has failed to drum up investor and analyst fanfare.
Wall Street shrugged off all of the recent news and Facebook (Nasdaq: FB) stock barely budged, except to move a little lower.
Even CEO Mark Zuckerberg's mid-September interview, which appeared to put some spark back into Facebook's fading shares, now seems like a very distant memory.
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Facebook Stock Won't be Saved by this "Useless" Idea
Facebook Inc. (Nasdaq: FB) announced today (Thursday) it had finally amassed its one billionth member.
While the company celebrated the landmark number, many analysts simply shrugged it off. So did Facebook stock, which was down about 0.4% by 2 p.m.
As MarketWatch pointed out, "it's great to have one-seventh of the world's population in your network, but Facebook will have to translate that to the bottom line to sustain its upward momentum of late."
Or, as Money Morning wrote a few weeks back, "Congrats on one billion Facebook users... who buy nothing."
Facebook, in order to change that flaw, released a new plan this week to make money off its enormous subscriber base.
But here's why Zuckerberg and team should go back to the drawing board.
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Why Facebook Stock Has Much Farther to Fall
After Facebook Inc. (Nasdaq: FB) CEO Mark Zuckerberg addressed the public earlier this month to stem concerns over the stock's steep and steady fall, Facebook shares enjoyed a mild rally.
That was fun for investors while it lasted.
Facebook stock Monday renewed its descent, dropping 11% before stabilizing a bit to finish the day down 8.3% at $20.79.
Monday's intraday decline was the steepest since July 27. It was so sharp it tripped Nasdaq's circuit breakers meant to shield investors from short-seller manipulation.
Sparking this week's selloff was a fresh report from Barron's that said the company is overvalued. Renewed concerns over how quickly the social-networking behemoth can capitalize on revenue from the exploding number of users who access the site via mobile devices and tablets contributed to the drop.
Tuesday morning, the selling continued.
Before the recent selling spree, shares of the Menlo Park, CA-based company had given back some 45% since its hugely hyped initial public offering on May 18.
But that decline isn't enough.
Barron's gave Facebook a best-case scenario of $15 per share.
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While Facebook Struggles, These Rivals Steal Market Share
As Facebook (Nasdaq: FB) continues to struggle with growth and mobile strategies, its rivals keep moving forward in both areas.
GREE, Japan's $4.7 billion online media behemoth and rival to Facebook and its gaming counterpart Zynga Inc. (Nasdaq: ZNGA), moved further into Facebook's territory Monday with the purchase of social gaming company App Ant Studios.
GREE already enjoys a prominent position in social media. It's quickly gaining on other social networks, namely Facebook, since the bulk of its users already access the site via mobile devices - an arena in which Facebook lags.
With a strong focus on selling virtual goods, and with a variety of other superior services and mobile games, GREE is vying for sustained growth by expanding beyond its home turf -and is succeeding.
"GREE strives to build the world's leading global mobile gaming ecosystem. The acquisition of App Ant Studio will help GREE reach its goal of having 1 billion users worldwide as it expands its robust portfolio of games on GREE Platform," a company statement read. GREE gushes the new Platform will deliver exclusive social gaming experiences, in addition to offering developers access to a rising and engaged worldwide audience.
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Facebook CEO Interview Sparks Stock Rally, But it Won't Last
Facebook Inc. (Nasdaq: FB) CEO Mark Zuckerberg addressed the public and press yesterday (Tuesday) evening in his first interview since the social networking firm went public this spring, and he was a man on a mission.
Zuckerberg aimed to show shareholders, analysts, employees and members that Facebook has not lost its swagger.
Speaking at the TechCrunch conference in San Francisco, 28-year-old Zuckerberg, who has been harshly criticized for his lack of prowess as a CEO, appeared relaxed in his usual casual attire.
While Zuckerberg's speech sparked some excitement and lit a fuel under Facebook's floundering stock, sending shares up 3% in extended trading Tuesday and another 6% by 1 p.m. Wednesday, the rally will be short-lived.
"I certainly wouldn't buy this stock tomorrow," Simon Baker, founder of Baker Asset Management, told CNBC. "It's still an expensive stock-it trades at 30 times next year earnings. In fact, I'd sell the pop."
When Facebook debuted on the Nasdaq May 18, it became the first U.S. company to go public with a value of more than $100 billion. Since the epic IPO, it has lost more than half of its capitalization as investors agonize about waning growth, employee defection, lack of presence in the mobile arena, fading traffic and Zuckerberg's capability at the helm.
That's why CNBC's "Fast Money" regular and president of Metropolitan Capital Karen Finerman shared Baker's skepticism over Facebook stock.
Regarding Zuckerberg's comments about the Facebook mobile strategy, Finerman said, "Unless you think Zuckerberg can monetize mobile and no one else can-I would prefer to be in a stock that trades at a lower valuation."
Zuckerberg Shines Light on the Future of Facebook
In the half hour interview, Zuckerberg touched on all areas of concern.
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If Only Zuckerberg Chose a Catchier Facebook Ticker Symbol
If only CEO Mark Zuckerberg had used a bit more imagination when cooking up the Facebook Inc. (Nasdaq: FB) ticker symbol, its stock might have fared a little better.
Sound crazy? Maybe, but several studies have shown that clever, pronounceable stock symbols - think Yum! Brands Inc. (NYSE: YUM) and Southwest Airlines (NYSE: LUV) - do better in the market.
The phenomenon is particularly true for IPOs, with the "fun name halo" extending about 10 days out from the stock's first day of trading.
Companies that choose a ticker symbol that doesn't form a pronounceable word - yes, like Facebook (Nasdaq: FB) -- often struggle. Generally speaking, the more jumbled the letters, the worse a stock does.
"[Our] research shows that people take mental shortcuts, even when it comes to their investments, when it would seem they would want to be most rational," Professor Daniel Oppenheimer, who co-authored a 2006 Princeton University study of the subject, told Psych Central.
While the academics who have studied this have not conclusively nailed down the cause, most suspect it has to do with something called "fluency," or how easily a person can process information.
People are simply drawn more to a catchy ticker symbol like YUM than a drab one like FB.
"It is possible that [people] are initially more attracted to fluently named stocks, that they pay particular attention to those stocks, or even that they favor those stocks because they have developed an association between easily processed names and success," Adam Alter, Oppenheimer's research partner, told The Wall Street Journal.
The Science Behind Clever Tickers
Naturally, not every stock with a clever ticker symbol outperforms and not every stock with a subpar ticker symbol underperforms. But the broad data show a surprisingly strong relationship between a ticker and how well the stock does.
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NASA crashes Ebb and Flow, names a 'corner of the moon' for Sally Ride
Ebb and Flow's final resting place on the moon has been named for America's first woman in space, Sally Ride, NASA/JPL announced Monday.
The formation-flying duo hit the lunar surface as planned at 2:28:51 p.m. PST (5:28:51 p.m. EST) and 2:29:21 p.m. PST (5:29:21 p.m. EST) at a speed of 3,760 mph (1.7 kilometers per second). The location of the Sally K. Ride Impact Site is on the southern face of an approximately 1.5-mile-tall (2.5-kilometer) mountain near a crater named Goldschmidt.
"Sally was all about getting the job done, whether it be in exploring space, inspiring the next generation, or helping make the GRAIL mission the resounding success it is today," said GRAIL principal investigator Maria Zuber of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge. "As we complete our lunar mission, we are proud we can honor Sally Ride's contributions by naming this corner of the moon after her."
NASA lets new rover go over in 2020, announces multi-year Mars program
Mars is ours for the forseeable future, NASA announced Tuesday with plans for a "robust" multi-year program that includes a 2020 launch date for a new robotic science rover.
With over-the-moon elation, the space agency reinforced its commitment to a Mars exploration program that meets "our nation's scientific and human exploration objectives," according to the official news release.
"The Obama administration is committed to a robust Mars exploration program," NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said. "With this next mission, we're ensuring America remains the world leader in the exploration of the Red Planet, while taking another significant step toward sending humans there in the 2030s."
The "planned portfolio" includes:
- Curiosity and Opportunity rovers
- Two NASA spacecraft
- Contributions to one European spacecraft currently orbiting Mars
- 2013 launch of the Mars Atmosphere and Volatile EvolutioN (MAVEN) orbiter to study the Martian upper atmosphere
- Interior Exploration using Seismic Investigations, Geodesy and Heat Transport (InSight) mission, which will take the first look into the deep interior of Mars
- Participation in ESA's 2016 and 2018 ExoMars missions, including providing "Electra" telecommunication radios to ESA's 2016 mission and a critical element of the premier astrobiology instrument on the 2018 ExoMars rover
Photos: NASA's Opportunity rover finds 'newberries' on Mars, may contain clay
Knock knock — NASA's Opportunity rover has some Martian clay news for you.
Scientists said Tuesday at a meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco that Opportunity — the solar-powered six-wheeler that landed on Mars in 2004 (and has far outlasted its original, three-month mission) — uncovered hints of clay minerals along the western rim of the Endeavour crater.
Steve Squyres, the mission's principal investigator at Cornell University said, "If you are a geologist studying a site like this, one of the first things you do is walk the outcrop, and that's what we've done with Opportunity," reports NASA.
Two outcrops of high interest on Matijevic Hill are "Whitewater Lake" and "Kirkwood." Whitewater Lake is light-toned material that science team members believe may contain clay.Kirkwood contains small spheres with composition, structure and distribution that differ from other iron-rich spherules, nicknamed blueberries, that Opportunity found at its landing site and throughout the Meridiani Planum area it has explored. Squyres calls the Kirkwood spheres "newberries."
No methane in 'initial sniffs' of Martian air, says NASA
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Lab demo of the measurement chamber inside the Tunable Laser Spectrometer — an atmosphere analysis instrument on NASA's Curiosity rover.
"The most sensitive measurements ever to search for methane gas on Mars" did not detect methane gas on Mars, reports NASA.
Preliminary results reveal little to no methane. Methane is of interest as a simple precursor chemical for life. On Earth, it can be produced by either biological or non-biological processes.
Officials released the test results Friday during a teleconference from Pasadena's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
Scientists with the space agency are trying to figure out if Mars was ever hospitable to microbial life, and how the planet may have lost a substantial amount of original atmosphere.
Learning what happened to the Martian atmosphere will help scientists assess whether the planet ever was habitable. The present atmosphere of Mars is 100 times thinner than Earth's.
35-year-old Voyager 1 skirts solar system edge with an 8-track and 68K of memory
Voyager assembly in Hi-Bay I.
With an eight-track tape recorder and 100,000 times less memory than an iPod, Voyager 1 is celebrating its 35th birthday at the edge of the solar system.
Traipsing through a giant, turbulent, plasma bubble near the fringes, the longest-running, most-distant spacecraft in NASA's history celebrates a launch anniversary on Wednesday. After more than three decades of trekking, the craft is currently flirting with the edge of our system, poised for a precedent-setting puncture to the other side.
Scientists say the milestone is near, but a timeframe for crossing over is unknown.
Expected to be the first manmade object to touch the space between stars, Voyager 1, at more than 11 billion miles from the sun, is already in uncharted celestial territory. Voyager 2, which celebrated its anniversary two weeks ago, is approximately 9 billion miles from the sun.


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This handsome bridge features low friction rollers for each string and is adjustable in width from 2" to 2-3/16" (51mm to 55.5mm). These rollers are also individually adjustable for string height and intonation. The strings anchor at the back of this bridge. The eccentric screw on the right side is used to lock all the saddles tight once adjustments are completed.
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DZone App in the Windows Store
DZone MVB and app architect Shayne Boyer called me about a week before our company Christmas party and told me that the DZone app was almost finished, but what I wasn't expecting was just how much thought he put into it. Not only was DZone getting an app for Windows 8 PC, but also for tablets (including the Surface) and all mobile platforms.
Above, you can see the social integration that Shayne added, and future versions will be even more social and community driven. There is more to come in 2013, so be on the lookout for the DZone app on other operating systems. Shayne plans to improve on this version once the app is available for all operating systems.
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Beta-carotene is one of a group of red, orange, and yellow pigments called carotenoids. Beta-carotene and other carotenoids provide approximately 50% of the vitamin A needed in the American diet. Beta-carotene can be found in fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. It can also be made in a laboratory.
Beta-carotene is used to decrease asthma symptoms caused by exercise; to prevent certain cancers, heart disease, cataracts, and age related macular degeneration (AMD); and to treat AIDS, alcoholism, Alzheimer's disease, depression, epilepsy, headache, heartburn, high blood pressure, infertility, Parkinson's disease, rheumatoid arthritis, schizophrenia, and skin disorders including psoriasis and vitiligo.
Beta-carotene is also in used in malnourished (underfed) women to reduce the chance of death and night blindness during pregnancy, as well as diarrhea and fever after giving birth.
Some people who sunburn easily, including those with an inherited disease called erythropoietic protoporphyria (EPP), use beta-carotene to reduce the risk of sunburn.
There are many authorities – including the American Heart Association, the American Cancer Society, the World Cancer Research Institute in association with the American Institute for Cancer Research, and the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer – that recommend getting beta-carotene and other antioxidants from food instead of supplements, at least until research finds out whether supplements offer the same benefits. Eating 5 servings of fruits and vegetables daily provides 6-8 mg of beta-carotene.
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Reducing the risk of breast cancer in women before menopause when fruits and vegetables containing beta-carotene are consumed
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Treating an eye disease called age-related macular degeneration (AMD) when used with other medicines
. Taking 15 mg of beta-carotene by mouth along with 500 mg of vitamin C, 400 IU of vitamin E, and 80 mg of elemental zinc daily, seems to help prevent vision loss and worsening of AMD in people with advanced AMD. There isn't enough evidence to know if this combination works for people with less advanced macular disease.
Preventing sunburn in people who are sun sensitive
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Keeping a form of arthritis called osteoarthritis from getting worse
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Preventing bronchitis and difficulty breathing in smokers
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Preventing lung cancer in smokers
. Taking beta-carotene actually seems to increase the risk of lung cancer in people who smoke (especially those smoking more than 20 cigarettes per day), former smokers, people exposed to asbestos, and those who use alcohol (one or more drinks per day) in addition to smoking. However, beta-carotene from food does not seem to have this adverse effect.
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There is growing concern that taking high doses of antioxidant supplements such as beta-carotene might do more harm than good. Some research shows that taking high doses of beta-carotene supplements might increase the chance of death from all causes and possibly other serious side effects. There is also concern that taking large amounts of a multivitamin plus a separate beta-carotene supplement increases the chance of developing advanced prostate cancer in men.
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History of asbestos exposure
: In people who have been exposed to asbestos, beta-carotene supplements might increase the risk of cancer. Don't take beta-carotene supplements if you have been exposed to asbestos.
Angioplasty, a heart procedure
. There is some concern that when antioxidant vitamins, including beta-carotene, are used together they might have harmful effects after angioplasty. They can interfere with healing. Don't use beta-carotene and other antioxidant vitamins before or after angioplasty without the recommendation of your healthcare provider.
Are there interactions with medications?
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Be cautious with this combination.
Medications used for lowering cholesterol (Statins)
Taking beta-carotene, selenium, vitamin C, and vitamin E together might decrease the effectiveness of some medications used for lowering cholesterol. It is not known if beta-carotene alone decreases the effectiveness of some medications used for lowering cholesterol.
Some medications used for lowering cholesterol include atorvastatin (Lipitor), fluvastatin (Lescol), lovastatin (Mevacor), and pravastatin (Pravachol).
Taking beta-carotene along with vitamin E, vitamin C, and selenium might decrease some of the beneficial effects of niacin. Niacin can increase the good cholesterol. Taking beta-carotene along with these other vitamins might decrease the good cholesterol.
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There are no known interactions with herbs and supplements.
Are there interactions with foods?
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Drinking excessive amounts of alcohol can reduce the level of beta-carotene in the body and increase the level of another chemical called retinol. Researchers are concerned that this might increase the risk of cancer. But more research is needed to find out whether this concern is justified.
Olestra (fat substitute)
Olestra may interfere with the action of beta-carotene in the body. Olestra lowers serum beta-carotene concentrations in healthy people by 27%.
What dose is used?
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The following doses have been studied in scientific research:
For erythropoietic protoporphyria (EPP): dosage is based on age. For age 1 to 4, the daily dose is 60-90 mg; age 5 to 8 years, 90-120 mg; age 9 to 12 years, 120-150 mg; age 13 to 16 years, 150-180 mg; and age 16 and older, 180 mg. If people still remain too sensitive to the sun using these doses, beta-carotene can be increased by 30-60 mg per day for children under 16 years old, and up to a total of 300 mg per day for people older than age 16.
For preventing sunburn in sun-sensitive people: beta-carotene 25 mg orally daily.
For treating age-related macular degeneration (AMD): beta-carotene 15 mg plus vitamin C 500 mg, zinc oxide 80 mg, and vitamin E 400 IU daily.
The recommended daily intake of beta-carotene has not been set because there hasn't been enough research.
Beta-carotene supplements are available in two forms. One is water-based, and the other is oil-based. Studies show that the water-based version seems to be absorbed better.
Other names
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A-Beta-Carotene, A-Bêta-Carotène, Beta Carotene, Bêta-Carotène, Bêta-Carotène Tout Trans, Beta-Caroteno, Carotenes, Carotènes, Carotenoids, Caroténoïdes, Caroténoïdes Mélangés, Mixed Carotenoids, Provitamin A, Provitamine A.
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Vista Del Mar in Long Beach
- bedrooms 2
- baths 2½
- sleeps 6
- pool no
- hot tub no
- pets allowed yes
- type Condo
- community
rates (USD)
/ night
$ 800 - $ 1,350 / week
Long Beach Condo deals
stays between: 4/3/14 & 4/30/14
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3rd Night FREE!!
Rent this beautiful condo for any two nights during the month of April and receive your third night absolutely FREE!
- free night stay valued at $160
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vacation rental description
Special Features: Jetted Tub, Granite Countertops Throughout, Private Balcony, 180 Degree Views, End Unit!
This oceanfront condo with a 180 degree captivating view is situated on a high bluff overlooking the pristine Seaview dunes. Perfect for those looking to unwind in comfortable first-class accommodations, Vista Del Mar is beautifully appointed with elegance and luxury. Ground level entry to the main floor includes a 1/2 bath with an open livingroom/dining area and kitchen offering a breath-taking view of the Pacific Ocean and our unspoiled sandy beach.
Venture through the glass patio doors in the livingroom to a private balcony furnished with a gas grill and outdoor dining/seating. The livingroom offers a comfy couch and loveseat, a gas fireplace and TV with VCR/DVD and a stereo w/CD player and internet access. The kitchen features beautiful granite countertops and a serving bar as well as quality cooking utensils and dishes. All new SS appliances top off this well-equipped galley.
As you journey up the stairs, you'll find two bedrooms, each with a queen bed and a private full bath. The oceanfront bedroom also offers a jetted tub for a delightfully luxurious soak, complete with bath beads and ocean view. The second bedroom includes a DVD player for private viewing of your favorite movies. This unit is at the end of the building providing additional windows to enjoy the scenic vista.
Enjoy a short walk to the beach - less than 15 minutes down the path. Even closer is an access point for our unique Discovery Trail - a paved walking/bicycling trail that meanders through the dunes all the way to north Long Beach and south to Beard's Hollow and the lighthouses. Famous for it's Kite-friendly breezes, our beach is the best place for leisurely strolls, bird watching, storm watching, hiking or just staring at the surf and taking in the fresh salt air (a proven stress-reliever). Be lulled by the sound of the surf - you'll sleep like a baby.
This special retreat is a short drive to an abundance of local activities, shops, restaurants, and beautiful local parks. Located on the bluff in Seaview on the Long Beach Peninsula - famous for great family vacations. Just a 3-4 hour drive from Seattle, WA or 2-3 hours from Portland, OR
Please call Sue to reserve. Office hours are Noon to 8pm, PT, Mon-Sat
Oceanfront Getaways is a member of the Long Beach Peninsula Visitor's Bureau and The Better Business Bureau and has been awarded 5-Stars for Excellence in Customer Satisfaction.
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condo rental amenities
Ocean view, balcony, outdoor seating/dining area, gas grill. Linens and towels provided; 2 bedrooms (queens) two twin sleeping pads, 2.5 baths w/shower, tub/shower, jetted tub in master bedroom, porta-crib and baby monitor available upon request. Fully-equipped kitchen w/microwave, dishwasher, toaster oven, coffee maker, full refrigerator w/ice maker, stove & oven, toaster, TV trays, & spice rack. Washer & dryer, ironing board & iron, hair dryers, alarm clocks, telephone, answering machine, internet access, Stereo/CD players (2), DVD players (2), VCR, Cable TV, video library, books, music, puzzles, paper products (napkins, paper towels, toilet paper, kleenex, coffee filters), hand, dish & laundry soaps.
activities and attractions in Long Beach Washington
28 miles of sandy beach, wildlife viewing in the Willapa National Wildlife Refuge, photography, beachcombing, hiking trails, biking, horseback riding, storm watching, antique shops, art galleries, tennis, golf-2 courses, playgrounds, State & National Parks, community pool, local festivals and special events, charter fishing, clamming, bird watching, kiting, moped/bicycle rentals, amusement arcades and rides, go-carts (2 tracks), historic towns and lighthouses, Lewis & Clark Interpretive Center, several local museums, kite shops, gift shops, movie theatre, bowling alley. Hike through 'Station Camp'-the newest addition to the Lewis and Clark National Historical Park, nap in the dunes or just curl up with a good book.
vacation rental rates
Oct. 1 - April 30 : 1-2 People - $160/Night, $800/Week**
Oct. 1 - April 30 : 3-4 People - $180/Night, $900/Week**
May 1 - Sept. 30 : 1-2 People - $205/Night, $1230/Week**
May 1 - Sept. 30 : 3-4 People - $225/Night, $1350/Week**
PRICES INCLUDE CLEANING FEES! - Cash, Check, Money Orders
Fall/Winter Special : Buy 2 nights, Get 2 nights FREE (10/1 - 3/15*)
Spring Special : Pay for 2 nights, Get the 3rd night FREE (3/15 - 4/30)
BeachCombers Club : Pay regular rates for any 6 nights during the calendar year to receive ONE NIGHT FREE>
2 Night Minimum, except some holidays and special events may be more. Refundable cleaning/damage deposit and rent plus tax required for reservation; cancellation must be two weeks prior to avoid fee. Guests are asked to do light housekeeping if staying a week or longer.
*Excluding Thanksgiving, Christmas & New Years holidays
**some holiday & festivals may be more
Susan Hermanns 360-665-3633
accepted payment methods
Prior to paying a reservation deposit, always verify payment instructions by calling the phone number displayed on this listing page. By contacting the owner directly and paying by an approved method - credit card, paypal, check or bank transfer - your reservation payment will be protected up to $1,000.
Learn more in our Security CenterTop things to do in Long Beach
- Ride the Go-Carts (2 tracks)
- Fly a Kite
- Horseback Riding on the Beach
- Rent a Moped
- Golf - 2 courses
Top things to do on a budget
- Walk the Beach - 28 Miles!
- Walk/Bike/Skateboard Discovery Trail
- Take Your Picture with the Giant Fry Pan
- Build A Sand-Castle
- Explore the Boardwalk
Top things to do with a family
- Beach Games, Football, Volleyball, etc
- Fly Kites on the Beach - Great Wind!
- Scoopers Ice Cream Shop-Homemade Waffle Cones
- Two Go-Cart Tracks
- Putt-Putt Golf
Susan Hermanns , owner


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- Chakrabarty, P., Davis, M.P., Smith, Wm.L., Baldwin, Z., and Sparks, J. (2011). Is sexual selection driving diversification of the bioluminescent ponyfishes (Teleostei: Leiognathidae)? Molecular Ecology. (20)13:2818-2834.
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Copyright on chess moves - shadows on the wall?
Last week, ChessBase was apparently 'forced to cease Internet broadcasting of the Topalov-Kamsky match'. As we noted in our report on the first match game, live broadcasting of the chess moves in this match without permission was prohibited by the Bulgarian Chess Federation (although they didn't seem to have a problem with Chessdom's, Crestbook's, ICC's and TWIC's live coverage). This has led to heated discussions on this site. The key question here is: can you copyright a chess move at all?
The above quoted article on the official match site doesn't address this question: it merely gives an overview of the actions which were taken by the lawyers of the parties involved. It ends with a quote from the president of the BCF, Stefan Sergiev:
This is a precedent in the world of chess and we are grateful to attorney Polzin for his assistance. This case will serve as a lesson to everybody who violates the copyright law.
Well, perhaps, but without concrete arguments (instead of words of barely concealed triumph) it all remains very mysterious. And it's such an interesting question! You can look at it from a legal point of view, from a philosophical point of view and from a historicial point of view. The very fact that it has been debated since the rise of professional chess (over 150 years ago) as this thorough overview by Edward Winter shows, indicates the complexity of the question. You should really just read the whole piece yourself, but let me just quote what Capablanca had to say about the matter:
A chess game, from its very nature and the manner of its production, must be the joint property of the two persons producing it ... You can charge what you like for the publication of the games in any form you may deem to your advantage. But, unfortunately, that is a common privilege, of which anyone may take advantage.
Capablanca's opinion raises the question what this 'very nature' of a chess game is, exactly. Basically, a chess move seems to be information. But what kind of information? That's a philosophical question, and it has obvious consequences for copyright issues. I like Macauley Peterson's definition of moves becoming 'factual events in the world', but I don't think it's so easy to say that because of this, there can't be copyright on them. In fact, there's a whole branch of copyright theory that deals with this question. To quote the Wikipedia article:
There are many other philosophical questions which arise in the jurisprudence of copyright. They include such problems as determining when one work is "derived" from another, or deciding when information has been placed in a "tangible" or "material" form.
This seems to go to the heart of the matter. What is a chess move, apart from a physical act ('event') by one player moving pieces on a board? Is it a 'thing'? A thought? Does it exist somewhere in time or space? When I think of a chess move in Amsterdam (say 1.e4), is it somehow different from Topalov thinking that same move in Sofia? Does it change by him actually playing that move? Anyway, aren't all thoughts free?
From a legal point of view, I haven't been able to find any laws or jurisprudence on the this matter, even though many commenters have said that there are certainly laws that deal with this question. But what laws exactly? In the Topalov-Kamsky case, are we dealing with Bulgarian law? With EU regulations? Or, in ChessBase's case, even with German law (as the article on the match site seems to imply)? Things are, in my view, complicated by the fact that we're dealing with broadcasts on the internet: in other words, in a global, virtual environment.
The whole copyright discussion has changed heavily since the rise of the Internet. A very interesting speech (and following discussion) by Richard Stallman, founder of the Free Software or GNU Project. which he held at MIT some years ago, deals in a fundamental way with many of the issues of copyright and the new virtual world. His point of view, too, has many shades of grey, as the following excerpt shows:
[I]nstead of increasing copyright powers, we have to pull them back so as to give the general public a certain domain of freedom where they can make use of the benefits of digital technology, make use of their computer networks. But how far should that go? That's an interesting question because I don't think we should necessarily abolish copyright totally. The idea of trading some freedoms for more progress might still be an advantageous trade at a certain level, even if traditional copyright gives up too much freedom. But in order to think about this intelligently, the first thing we have to recognize is, there's no reason to make it totally uniform. There's no reason to insist on making the same deal for all kinds of work.
The discussion about the difference between a textual representation of a move (or a game) and the actual live broadcast of the game on, for instance, Playchess or ICC (or indeed here on ChessVibes), reminds me a bit of Plato's Theory of Forms and his famous Allegory of the Cave: isn't a chess broadcast merely a 'shadowy projection' of the Idea of a chess game? And isn't it silly to worry about these projections which are, after all, merely a weak reflection of the Truth?
Engraving of Plato's Cave, 1604
Of course, the matter will be (and has been) discussed over and over again on the internet and beyond. We have actually mentioned it before on ChessVibes as a commentary on the popular Monroi gadget. I do not want to formulate a definite opinion (yet). I've just tried to collect some links throwing (I hope) various lights on the matter. Have a look at them. I hope you will agree with me that, really, things are never that simple.
Dear Arne,
Leaving philosophical confusions for what they are, I decided to ask my good friend Ilan de Vre for his opinion, who is currentlcy an IO (intellectual ownership)-lawyer at the well known dutch firm 'Kennedy (Van der Laan)'. So here is my report of an expert's point of view.
Protecting with copyright can only be done if something is 'a work'. THAT's the real crucial part in the definition you quoted from wikipedia's article.
They include such problems as determining when one WORK is "derived" from another, or deciding when information has been placed in a "tangible" or "material" form.
The point being that chess moves do not - legally - count as a 'work'. What does count as 'work' would be an analysis of a chess game. Copyright is meant to prevent others taking advantage of my hard work. Compare it to football matches:
you can get copyright on the images of a game because reporting the game counts as 'a work' (meaning: the journalistic effort of capturing the images and reporting etc.). However the moves of the football match (like the dribbles of Ronaldo) cannot be protected by copyright. In the same way the moves of a chess game cannot be protected by copyright.
As I understood it, but I am happy to ask Ilan to join the discussion, there is a huge difference between buying the rights to televize a football match. This would be legally impossibile considering a chess game in a tournament. Legally one could only protect the right of broadcasting this chess game in a certain way, but one cannot legally be prevented to braodcast a chess game in some other way (using another applet).
It's worth to mention that a few years back, the organizers of the individual European Championship made some serious lawsuit threats against ICC and even published a statement on the site saying that ICC violated copyrights. Even though they seemed quite serious with their threats, the case died out once they realized that ICC always ignores such threats.
Organizers of the Dortmund super tournament also tried to charge for access to the live games a few times, but seeing that most people are not willing to pay for just the moves to these evens when they can follow it on chess servers, they gave that up quickly.
It seems obvious to me that instead of accusing chess servers of violating copy rights and working AGAINST them, they should instead work WITH them. This would be beneficial for the tournament's popularity, which against would please the sponsors. You just can't copy right chess moves.
Oh Lord! :-)
"just the moves"
"copy right chess moves"
These kind of expressions, added with the usual mixing with practical questions about a (I agree) somewhat legaly blured scenario, makes justice to the subtitle of the article: "Shadows"!!! (on peoples eyes! But we still can see, you know?)
Castro, I'm not sure what you mean, but in any case, in my view the moves of a chess game are not the shadows on the wall - they are the Forms itself. And yes, I know the analogy doesn't work 100% - analogies never do, that's why they're called analogies, not equations :-)
@Castro The facts of the event (moves, move times, result) are facts, not copyrightable. Making random analogies about dogs and chairs isn't really relevant.
@Tarjei Yes, this is something that has been going on forever. Every year some organizer somewhere comes up with some random demands about game broadcasts. As an aside, this was something I remember us looking into at X3D for the Kasparov matches, and the lawyers we'd spoken to basically just laughed at the concept.
@Arne Moll
Sure, you're right about analogies. But if you insist in presenting something by an analogy which is very remote, because born out of distorting and/or forgeting essencial data, it is not an useful analogy (to say the least).
@John Fernandez
The analogy with the dogs and chairs sylogism makes sense, because it presents the same lack of sense of your "equalities".
The "Images of a chess match" can be considered "Images of a sporting event", but have 1/1000 of the public interess of images of almost all other sporting event. Somehow it is crucial here, but somehow you "forget" to consider it.
As for the "Gamescores of a chess match" being equal to "Statistics of a sporting event", well this one is far worse! Myself, MM (and maybe others) have already dealt with that. No offense, but it's a childish aproach. Dogs and chairs being equal (because both have something in common) come imediately to mind...
Copyright doesn't make qualitative judgements. A Picasso painting has the same copyright protection as a scribble from a three year old. The approach isn't childish, your approach is simply wrong. The fact that there are multiple people arguing it doesn't make it any more correct. It's, simply put, embarrassingly wrong.
@John Fernandez
I'm not perfect, but surely I wouln't make the (also childish) mistake of calling the number of people with a certain opinion in order to legitimate that opinion. And so I DIDN'T! Try reading again. Again a try to distort facts, which maybe you should see doest't work a lot, from you to me ;-)
As for the Picasso thing, many things were said here that destroy that analogy, and you don't even imagine how much of your distorted related things I let pass. For instance: "Facts" not being copyrightable, one understands. But a move in a chess game is as much of a fact as a kick in a ball. Not "scores", of course.
Other: If I were to use your "logic weapons", I could easily ridiculise your importance to the laughs of the lawyers (we'll see who laughs last!).
Am I wrong? Who says? The actual presenter of the easiest refutable arguments here? Ok, I'll laugh too.
@Castro, the best analogies are often the most 'remote'. Try picking up a book by Douglas Hofstadter sometime, you'll be surprised. Not that mine was so great, of course, but .. oh well.
Hi Frank, I'm afraid your post has made my confusion even bigger, because I'm pretty sure most if not all chess professionals would by definition consider making (strong) chess moves very real 'work' indeed!
Of course I understand the moves of a game 'as such' cannot be copyrighted, but surely making these moves can? Or am I missing something here?
Among many other things one can say regarding this "new" perspective (and sayings), the "work" (or property) of those organizing and allowing (or not) some (crucial) information to get public (in this or that form) during the games must be taken into consideration too.
Imagine that you try to make some money on some kind of broadcast of an elite chess tournament.
If you try to sell video images of an elite chess tournament by which the moves are not visible, no one will buy them. They'd be 100% disapointing.
If you sell (or allow to be taken) video images where the moves are visible in real time, of course you can make big money, but because of the moves!
If then people know that, besides the video images, everybody could freely transmit the moves in many sites, the original video images loose almost all their value!
Doesn't it make yet another hint that there is "work" (or interest, or property) besides "making (strong) chess moves" or "journalistic effort-type", in the broadcasting of moves of a chess tournament in real time?
I'd like to see someone making any interesting money out of TV broadcasts of a chess tournament from which the public could only see the moves AFTER the tournament (or even after each round).
Calling it "broadcasting" or not, that's rights on that we should be talking about.
"Copyright on chess moves" surely not, in any of the scandalous/bombastic meanings it can have.
"14. Qxh7" is as uncopyrightable as (for exemple) the word "Morning", or the sentence "You sleep in the morning", that I could easily agree.
Long time ago I had some version of Football Manager. They used real names of players, but instead of one, there was only nr. 9. Other firm had copyright on name. Assuming that I still have right to use my name, I can ask from ChessBase to remove it from commercial program, for example Mega 2009. They can publish all my games, but without connection with my name.
Am I right or wrong ?
I am a lawyer in Los Angeles. Under American law i seriously doubt you could copyright chess moves. You can only copyright particular expressions of an idea-- you cannot copy the idea itself! In chess, the idea of a move is "merged" with the expression as XTRA astutely noted above (not sure if he is an attorney but he thinks like one!). In other words there is only one way to express the idea of queen takes h7, check, on move 14 in a certain position. Thus the "merger doctrine" would apply to wipe out any copyright protection for the expression/idea 14.Qxh7+. You can copyright the selection and arrangement of games/variations, and you can certainly copyright editorial expressions such as += , "With compensation", !?, ??, etc... The solution is to have contracts to secure exclusive broadcasting access, rather than some feeble attempted copyright protection that (in my opinion) judges would simply laugh at.
:-) Right! Even lazyness! (Because it's MY own copyrighted lazyness)
I'm sorry Castro, I hate to point it out to you, but you still seem to have missed the main point, despite various people trying to point it out to you. This doesn't prevent you from using friendly words like 'bombastic', ' ridiculous' and 'stupid' again and again. Perhaps if you could express yourself in proper English I would understand what you mean, or you would understand what I meant, but for now, I give up.
Imediately when begining to read those words of yours, I though "Maybe it's my bad English" :-)
Yes, words are "dangerous" and misleading. That you could have seen from the start (your start), and about that yes, you could do something other then giving up.
@The Closet Grandmaster
LOL That thread on that other forum is hilarious (artical and some posts)!
The moral lesson: It's always possible to do worse.
Arne, passing here again, I read again your observation, and you're right complaining about my ugly expressions ('bombastic', ' ridiculous' and 'stupid'). My bad english doesn't allow being rude, and so, even if it wasn't my intention to be rude, I apologise, because maybe I could have found more friendly expressions.
This story has now been picked up here: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090305/0158524003.shtml#comments. See especially comments no. 20 and 29.
I just love discussions, for the sake of discussion! Feels like people speaking, only just because they like to hear themselves.
It's a different issue, but I'd say no, or at least very difficult, for instance because somehow it's understood that if you played those events, you were aware of the "common practice" of the games being published. That's the problem of "common practices".
But if you fight, maybe in some years your reason will be recognised. Try getting Kasparov on your fight ;-)
Many sports leagues have organizations which protect the images and likenesses of professional athletes with licensing deals. Occasionally, superstar players will opt out of such agreements and create their own licensing.
Sadly, there's really no such market in Chess, so such an organization would make zero sense.
The notion of copyrighting an order of moves in a game of chess is ludicrous. Fortunately United States judges have already set this straight.
there are no copyright or broadcasting issues ...
It's just a reaction by the bulgarian chess federation to the bad treatment of topalov by chessbase in the topalov-kramnik match.
If you play the Catalan, of course not , you don t owe a royalty to Kasparov.
You owe a royalty to Xavier Tartakover.
Boxing matches are often relegated to a "pay-per-view" broadcast, but that doesn't stop you from throwing a jab without being arrested...
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Forbidden love among teenagers has been a hot topic since long before Romeo first met Juliet at a party in fair Verona. The latest YA entry in this genre has Kestrel, daughter of a conquering Valorian general, falling for Arin, a native Herrani slave. Romance and politics quickly intersect as the Herrani stage a violent attempt to take back their land, and loyalties are tested when Kestrel, Arin and their various allies must choose between love, power, security and family.
Heather Nill is living a dead-end life in a washed-up town. Prospects are so grim that the high school kids' best hope of escaping is through a legendary game called Panic. Everyone pays in, and there can be only one winner, but it's not just a matter of facing down your worst fears—the stakes can be life or death.
It's 1917, and 16-year-old Russian noble Natalya feels confident of her future: She'll become tsarina when she marries Romanov heir Alexei and live a life filled with glittering parties and beautiful gowns. Her plans seem especially secure when Alexei shows her a Fabergé egg that's been infused with magical healing powers by royal advisor Grigori Rasputin.
Mia is famous because she fell into a well at the age of 4. Now she's nearly 17 and attends Westbrook, an elite boarding school, and people still call her "Baby Mia." Westbrook happens to be located in Mia's hometown of Fenton, which gives her "townie" status and keeps her close to her widowed father. Not that she sees him very often. He's obsessed with his secret work at the Cave, which Mia believes has something to do with microchips and the government. Mia is wrong.
BookPage Top Pick in Teen Books, March 2014
Somewhere deep within the African jungles of Gabon, a young street boy searches for a family, a home and a purpose beyond simply fighting for survival. While Threatened is the account of his learning to survive in the wild, it's also the tale of his learning to trust and accept others, even if they don't share the same genus and species.
The Mirk and Midnight Hour blends historical romance, suspense and the paranormal into a novel that's a Southern Gothic tale at heart.
"Your father doesn't have any enemies. He's an accountant." Daniel Pratzer's mom couldn't be more wrong about her mild-mannered, potbellied husband.
If Lily Potter and Voldemort had a love child, he would be Nathan Byrn. Born out of an illicit love affair between a White Witch and a Black Witch, Nathan is an abomination, a Half Code. His father, Marcus, is the vilest Black Witch in all of Great Britain. His White Witch mother committed suicide in shame.
In Broken Tooth, Maine, there is the legend of the Grey Man, a spirit who haunts the old lighthouse on Jackson Rock. But the Grey Man is more than a ghost. He's a cursed man who must gather the souls of those who die under his light. The Grey Man knows there's a girl out there who might be his savior if only he can convince her to take his place.
Cy Williams is not a slave, but his life is far from his own. Growing up in Georgia in the 1890s, he knows that the cruel white plantation owner his father works for could throw him in jail or even kill him in a second.