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SQL Injection is one of the most widely exploited web application vulnerability of the web 2.0 era. SQL Injection is used by hackers to steal data from online businesses' and organizations' websites. This web application vulnerability is typically found in web applications which do not validate the user's input. As a result, a malicious user can inject SQL statements through the website and into the database to have them executed.
Nowadays all online businesses are using database driven web applications to sell products and services to their customers and share real time information with their business partners. Be it a news website, an online shopping website, blog, social network website or an enterprise resource planning system, all of these web applications have access to and interact with an online backend database.
It is typical for people browsing the internet to read data from an online backend database, most of the time without even realizing. When you search for a pair of running shoes on an online shopping website or check the balance of your bank accounts through an e-banking web application you are retrieving data from the backend database through the web application.
On the other hand, if you register to a news website, blog or forum, submit credit card details to an online shopping website or make an update on a social network website, you are writing data to an online backend database through the web application.
One of the main problems with database driven web applications is that if the user input is not properly sanitized, a hacker will take advantage of such situation and use an SQL Injection hacking technique to pass SQL statements through the web application so they are executed by the backend database.
If your web application is vulnerable to SQL injection, a hacker is able to execute any malicious SQL query or command through the web application. This means he or she can retrieve all the data stored in the database such as customer information, credit card details, social security numbers and credential to access private areas of the portal, such as the administrator portal. By exploiting an SQL injection it is also possible to drop (delete) tables from the database. Therefore with an SQL Injection the malicious user has full access to the database.
Depending on your setup and the type of server software being used, by exploiting an SQL injection vulnerability some malicious users might also be able to write to a file or execute operating system commands. With such escalated privileges this might result into a total server compromise.
Unfortunately it is very difficult to determine the impact of an exploited SQL injection. Most of the times, if the hackers are well trained you won't be able to detect the attack until your data is available to the public and your business reputation is going down the drain.
For this SQL injection example we will use a typical login page where users enter their credentials to login to a website or private portal.
When a user submits a username and password, the web application uses these credentials in an SQL query. This SQL query is sent to the backend database to be executed and depending on the result of the query, the website determines if the credentials are correct or not, thus allowing the user to access the portal or denying access. E.g. if the username is admin and the password is 12345678, the web application sends an SQL query similar to the one below to the database to verify the credentials:
SELECT * FROM Users WHERE name = 'admin' AND password = '12345678'
Suppose a malicious user enters something like test' OR 1 = 1-- instead of the username and anything else as password. In this case the SQL query will look like the below:
SELECT * FROM Users WHERE name = 'test' OR 1 = 1 --' AND password = 'xxxxx'
The above SQL statement will always return a true because:
1. Name=`test` or 1 = 1 will always return a true statement (1 OR 1 = 1)
2. The rest of the SQL Statement after the -- signs is commented out, i.e. that part of the query is not executed.
Since the database returned a true value, the malicious user was able to trick the web application and manages to gain access to a logged in session without the need to guess the credentials. This Type SQL injection vulnerability can also be used to retrieve further data from the database, such as table names and their content.
Even though this might look like a simple old school trick, many web applications are still being hacked today by exploiting a similar SQL Injection. There are many other more complex variants of SQL Injections and it is almost impossible to manually check if all the inputs in your web application are vulnerable to all variants of SQL injection.
Web applications need to have direct access to the backend database to be able to retrieve any information or save information to the database. The same applies to your customers. They need full access to your website. Therefore firewalls and other type of intrusion detection / prevention system will not block someone trying to exploit an SQL Injection vulnerability. The only way to check if your websites and web applications are vulnerable to SQL Injection is by scanning them with an automated web application security scanner such as Netsparker.
Netsparker is a false positive free web application security scanner that can be used to identify web application vulnerabilities such as SQL Injection and Cross-site scripting in your web applications and websites. Download the trial version of Netsparker to find out if your websites are vulnerable.


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Sonos, the speaker and app combination that we raved about earlier this year, has been updated to add another streaming service and other improvements that will make this an even better home audio option.
Newly-added Android tablet support is the big ticket item in�Sonos Controller. The app is now downloadable for Android tablets running 2.2 or higher, including most popular tablets ranging from the Kindle Fire to the Motorola Xoom. Sadly, Sonos didn't do anything to the app other than make it scale to fit the larger screens. There's still quite a bit of empty space and the buttons are incredibly small considering all that extra screen real estate going to waste. Still, it's better than nothing as I've often wished I could control my Sonos system from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 instead of relying on my phone exclusively.
Version 3.6 also brings Slacker Radio for users in the United States and Canada. That opens up more streaming and on-demand options, including customized radio stations and ESPN or news. (Note, press the 'i' button in the lower right corner to get Artist/Song/Album info.) Streaming Spotify through Sonos also got better thanks to the ability to access Spotify inbox and listen to the New Releases or Top Tracks playlists. Still not enough?
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Note: If you already have Sonos working on your device, DO NOT update your ZonePlayers because they will break compatibility. Everything was working fine for me this morning and when I updated, things crapped-out.�I expect Sonos to provide a fix for this soon, but ignore prompts to update your ZonePlayers for now.
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Dec 19, 2010 | Mature | |||
TourGuide Recorder is an addon to track the user as he quests, for later use in guide creation. What it does: Record when a quest is accepted, turned in, and when each objective is competed Record the zone, subzone and coords for events that might need them Record when the player uses an item (for those "go zap 12 lizards with this thingmabob" quests) Provides /tgr command to add manual notes to the record In-game panel to copy and clear the log, accessable with the /tgr command I'm looking... | |||||
tekKonfig |
Jul 24, 2009 | Mature | |||
Just my personal config widget libraries. You're more than welcome to use these libraries in your own addons. If you change any of the code, please find a new name for your library to avoid conflicts with mine. Patches are more than welcome, you can submit them by forking my GitHub repo | |||||
Talismonger-3.0 |
May 20, 2009 | Mature | |||
A library to provide events and information about interactable nodes, loot and profession mats | |||||
Templar |
Dec 21, 2010 | Planning | |||
Templar is a one stop assistant for all your Mage needs. Portals? Sheeps? Mana Cakes? This addon is intended to replace all the numerous addons required for a Mage and consolidate them into one tool that is not only useful but requires very little screen real-estate so you can raid our pvp, and not figure out which spell you want to use. | |||||
Tutor |
Aug 10, 2010 | Planning | |||
A framework for developing and displaying tutorials that make use of in game elements and support actions. The idea behind this is to be able to bring up, hook into existing frames within other add ons or Blizzard frames to guide the user through a series of steps. | |||||
TradeSkillInfo |
Mar 02, 2014 | Release | |||
TradeSkillInfo What it does TradeSkillInfo is an add-on that gives you all the information that you need about tradeskills, including the ones that your character cannot craft. It can add the following information to the tooltip of an item: What tradeskills it is used in, and how many different recipes for that tradeskill it is used in. Which of your characters can use the item. Where the item comes from: bought from a vendor, dropped, disenchanted or crafted. It can add the following... | |||||
TalentMacros |
Feb 07, 2014 | Release | |||
Simple addon to avoid this silliness: /cast Bladestorm /cast Shockwave /cast Dragon Roar /run SetMacroSpell("MACRONAME", GetSpellInfo("Bladestorm)" or GetSpellInfo("Shockwave") or "Dragon Roar") Instead, you'll get a macro with the proper ability and icon for all your characters without typing something similar to that mess over and over! Create general macros named t1-t6 and they will auto-update to that talent tier's selected talent. Use /talentmacros to open the config to create the macros... | |||||
tekticles |
Dec 27, 2013 | Release | |||
tekticles is a simple set of fonts, derived from ClearFont2. I only ever used one set of fonts from CF2 (the Calibri set), so I ripped CF2 down to it's bear ass and stripped off all the extra crap. This addon is what's left. Visit my site for more great addons. Please send all bugs, feature requests and questions to [email protected] | |||||
Transcriptor |
Dec 19, 2013 | Release | |||
Logging utility for boss encounters. | |||||
TravelAgent |
Oct 11, 2013 | Release | |||
Provides a detailed tooltip describing particular localities, such as zones or instances or battlegrounds. Translators needed - apply localizations here. Features: Optional TomTom waypoint integration for instance locations. Self-refreshing tooltip, if you happen to have it open while traveling. Collapsible tooltip sections. LDB datafeed for zone/subzone names. LDB datafeed for coordinates. Minimap button for those who want it or don't have an LDB display. | |||||
TierTooltip |
Oct 02, 2013 | Release | |||
Adds tier set number and difficulty indicators to tier gear tooltips. For tier tokens, adds the tier information and the vendor where it can be redeemed to the tooltip. Supports all tiers from T1 Classic to T16 MoP. | |||||
Telepathy |
Sep 13, 2013 | Release | |||
Telepathy is the induction of mental states from one mind to another. In WoW terms, this addon provides an extension of a players normal skill set, joining the minds of raid and party members into one awesome whole, together capable of feats never before dreamed possible. Most Important: Telepathy is nothing alone - try it with your friends to see its true power! What Is It? Telepathy is an addon aimed at allowing players to share their spell books, as well as see each other's cooldowns. The... | |||||
Tooltip - LuaTexts |
Sep 12, 2013 | Release | |||
(former CowTip_LuaText) Allows to configure the content of unit-tooltips with custom Lua-Codes. It uses a modified version of PitBull4's LuaText-ScriptEnv. Some functions were removed. Some new were added. Some were modified to better suite for tooltips. If Cowtip is installed it automatically disables cowtips built-in dogtag-based text-module. | |||||
Turninator |
Sep 12, 2013 | Release | |||
Turninator is designed to speed up the turning in or acceptance of quests through the use of a keybind shared with the "Interact with Target" command and, optionally, any one other command such as an action bar button. The simplest way to put it is that one of the keys I normally mash in combat, I can now mash on out of combat to speed up npc interactions and questing. It can also make it easier to use quest items on their target npcs. As an example, I use ` key with Turninator on my... | |||||
Tabard Champion |
Sep 11, 2013 | Release | |||
This addon will make you a Tabard Champion and will auto equip a tabard (that you have set) any time you enter an 5-man instance. And it will take off the tabard once you leave an instance. You can also set a tabard to be equipped when not in an instance. Works with non us clients as well. Usage: /tc | |||||
TributeLoot |
Sep 10, 2013 | Release | |||
TributeLoot is a mod that links boss drops in raid warning, players then whisper the mod if they are interested in winning an item. The mod silently records the information and then prints the results in chat after 45 seconds. Usage: /tl This command prints the current mod version and all possible slash options. /tl link /tl l This command links loot in raid warning, starts the countdown, and prints the results when finished. If items were added using the "addloot" command, then it links... | |||||
TargetPercent |
Sep 09, 2013 | Release | |||
Adds a health percentage to the Blizzard target, focus target & boss target frames. Movable with ALT-drag if you dislike the default positions. | |||||
TextureViewer |
Aug 24, 2013 | Release | |||
You know a texture path. You want to see the texture. You're too lazy to go write a quick stub to display it, or extract the assets from the game client and get tools to view BLPs. This helps you with that. Type /texview Paste a texture path into the box that appears Press the x/y scaling buttons until you have the right proportions Scroll the mouse on the frame to zoom | |||||
Toaster |
Jun 13, 2013 | Release | |||
Toaster is the control AddOn for AddOns which use LibToast-1.0. It allows the user to customize such Toasts in the following ways: Color (by Toast severity type). Opacity. Duration. Which corner of the screen to spawn from. Whether or not to have a free-floating icon. Which (if any) Toasts will be displayed. Which (if any) Toasts will be allowed to play a sound. | |||||
Touhin |
May 28, 2013 | Release | |||
Touhin! A visual loot monitor. Notable fancies: Flexible positioning and display options Filter loot shown based on quality Highlighted quest items Combined money gains /touhin to toggle the anchor, /touhin config to open the options window. For a complete XLoot replacement, in addition to Touhin for XLoot Monitor, I suggest trying Butsu by haste for XLoot, teksLoot by tekkub for XLoot Group, and MasterLoot by ammo for XLoot Master. I also recommend GreedBeacon by tekkub for simplifying roll... |


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simonnyc Posts: 1My company participates in these following Auto Discount Programs.
1. GM Supplier Discount (Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, Hummer, Pontiac, Saab, Saturn)
2. Ford Partner Recognition Program (Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, Mazda, Jaguar, Landrover, Volvo)
3. Daimler Chrysler Affiliate Rewards Program (Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep)
Are the car prices through these programs good? Or can I get better deals haggling with the car salesmen? I'm figuring that if I go through any of these programs, I won't have any room to negotiate.
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tsgeisel Posts: 352The whole point of the various discount programs is to get you a *good* deal on a new car, while allowing the dealership to make at least a small profit. Also, by taking out the negotiation factor, the sales folks have more time to work with other customers.
You may be able to get a better price through haggling, but it'll take time and trouble to do so. And, note, that if you have a trade-in, you may be haggling on that as well.
You won't get ripped off by going through the discount program, so don't worry about that. It then becomes a matter of deciding if your time is worth the effort and money you *might* save. -
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graphicguy SW OhioPosts: 6,865Ford dealerships are reimburssed some amount by Ford corporate for X plan deals. IF you try to negotiate X plan deals, it's more than likely you'll just frustrate yourself since it's a rock bottom deal to begin with (only ones better are the Ford employee deals).
For GM, my bro-in-law is a GM employee, so that plan is the very best you can expect.
I'm not too familiar with Chrycos programs, but would imagine they are similar.
I also qualify for Nissan's supplier pricing. I've yet to see better prices for non-Nissan employees. -
bretfraz Posts: 2,021As others have said, on certain cars you might be able to negotiate a better deal but it'll take a lot of time and effort, and you may have to buy a car that is not exactly what you want.
With the factory plans, there is no negotiation. Some dealers will direct you to a specific salesperson (or not). They'll show you their invoice where it states what price you pay based on your eligibility. You are eligible for all rebates or other promotional offers. Also, dealers don't charge you for doc fees or any other silly fee. That right there can be a nice discount. Finally all vehicles are eligible with the plan except for those specifically noted, so no having to compromise on the car you want.
If you time your purchase right you may even get additional offerings like an additional rebate. For example, I bought my current truck on the GM Supplier Discount. I got exactly what I wanted, about 2% below invoice, got the consumer rebate plus a little extra for plan buyers, and I qualified for the best financing rate. I cannot imagine a car deal going smoother than that one. I suppose I could have grinded out a better deal but why bother?
If there are vehicles you are interested in from your plan suppliers, seriously consider taking advantage of the opportunity. -
british_rover Posts: 8,476The worst thing I have had happen is when someone spends hours negotiating a deal and then pulls out the oh and I have X,Y,Z, A or S plan pricing so I want that discount to.
They throw it out there like it is a dart and they are sticking you to the wall with it. They could have saved themselves a lot of time just by saying they have that plan and want to use it. Most of the time they have already negotiated their way below X plan but no one gets down into the A plan range.
I had one guy do this to me and the entire negotiation process was just painful. At the end of it when we finally settled on a price he goes, "Oh yeah and I have X-Plan through work so I want that discount too."
I wanted to choke him.
Instead I just said ok well your new X plan price will be XXXXX which just happened to be about 250 dollars above what he has already gotten down to.
He actually did not believe me that his special X plan was not a better deal or could not be put on top of what he already negotiated.
I guess he had just started working for the company and so had never used the X plan before. -
graphicguy SW OhioPosts: 6,865bret....every Ford and GM car I've bought, for myself and family members were either GMS/GMO (GM) or X plan (Ford).
About a year ago, when Mustang GTs were as hot as July 4th firecrackers, I bought one on X plan when every other dealer in the country was getting MSRP and above. That proved to be a great deal. Looked at pricing for a new Explorer for my sister. An all loaded up Eddie Bauer, which MSRPs for more than $40K, can be bought for around $32K with rebates on X plan. A GMS/GMO '07 Tahoe can be bought for low-mid $30s with rebate. So, they're great easy deals that don't take any effort to buy. -
billingsley Posts: 69In reading your messages, I've come to the conclusion that using the "plans" is a good way to buy but also a lazy way. Someone could get a good deal by showing the dealership the invoice and asking how much above that he'd be willing to go. I expect the dealer to make a profit or he wouldn't be in business. I have bought 2 Chevy's in the last 5 years from a local dealer in So. Cal., and he sells it to me for $300 over invoice. Not bad when MSRP is quite a bit more. I'm pleased and I like the dealership. I have all the services done there.
billingsley Posts: 69I get whatever rebate is coming to me. I apply that rebate to the down payment, which is of course my choice. Of course, there may be manufacturer to dealer rebates which most of the public doesn't see. So, the dealer may be making money that way. But, that's not my business.
valley Posts: 12Agreed. Also beware if your program is an employee program - even an affiliate employee program. Chances are that IRS is after you. One guy was very excited about a $6,000 off MSRP on a GMC truck he bought. But the program actually entitles IRS to add that full $6,000 to his regular income and tax at the marginal rate with elevated income. If he was in 30% bracket, the $6,000 is now worth less than $4,000. Could he have negotiated more than $4,000 below MSRP?
In fact, when GM did that "everybody gets employee price" campaign, his employer issued a blunt memo saying that employees would be better off going on the street and take the dealer offer :P That company takes the position that an affiliate program should not be treated the same as employee program and has contested (publicly but unsuccessfully) IRS rules. -
peetert Posts: 124We are just starting to investigate a replacement for the family minivan, the hope is as soon as my 2yo starts outgrowing our need to tote around the stroller all the time, we will have chosen a suitable replacement. One of the contenders is the Freestyle. Friends of ours have one and I was given a demo of it while visting them this past winter. It seems to have alot of what we are looking for, 3rd row seating (we have 3 kids), based off the Volvo (big pluses for the Mrs. there) and since its a Ford, it has the optional keypad entry. believe it or not, this little "feature" is a must of for my wife.
Enough of the background, now to the questions. I have Ford X-Plan pricing through work. I also am a member of Costco & BJ's. Assuming we are looking to purchase a Freestyle, which would give me the better price? I've looked at the Ford X-Plan prices and they seem to be just below invoice plus incentives. Haven't investigated the club benefits yet since we are not ready to buy yet.
Now, to add something else to the mix.
Over the weekend my wife got an offer from Ford to test drive the new Escape and get a $50 Target Card, as well as a coupon for $500 off the purchase. In lurking here for quite some time, and occasionally posting, I told her go down to the dealership midweek during the day and see if she can get someone to just sign the card as we are not really interested in the Escape anyway as it is too small for our needs. Also, while the other two will be in school, she'll have our little 2yo monster in tow so I don't want to wish him upon any salesman, just yet.
Since we are "interested" in the Freestyle, I told her to see if she can test drive that (assuming they won't just sign her card). Is that an option?
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joel0622 Posts: 3,302Since we are "interested" in the Freestyle, I told her to see if she can test drive that (assuming they won't just sign her card). Is that an option?
I don't see why it would be a problem. We do it all the time here. Have her test drive the van first then when she is done have her ask the Salesperson for a "favor" and ask him to get the other signed. Is the $500 just good on the Escape or any models? If you are not sure tell me the program # and your zip code and I will find out for you.
Also allot of times there are rebates for plan customers that regular retail don't get. -
joel0622 Posts: 3,302OK, for your Region there X-plan will probably work better because there is an additional $500 A/X/Z/D planners. Your incentive break down is as follows
$3000 Rebate
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0.00%-5.9% rate on 60 months depending on your credit. With a little bit better then average credit you can usually qualify for 0%. If you hav had Credit problems then up to 5.9% is still a great rate -
peetert Posts: 124Thanks for the info. My wife went yesterday mid-day with our 2 yr old. The place was empty so I guess the salesman was looking for something to do.
She was upfront about why she was there, to get the coupon for the Edge signed, but, since we are interested the Freestyle, she wondered if they could test that instead. They drove the car and she seemed to feel it was an adequet replacement.
We still have to look at what else is out there, so I'll probably be posting those questions to the relevant threads.
Also, I now have to do the math to see if we can do this now or wait. If we wait, the X-Plan may *not* be an option as I don't know how long I plan to stay at this position. That is the reason for the original question as to if the Costco, et. al. plans are similar to the X-Plan
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joel0622 Posts: 3,302If we wait, the X-Plan may *not* be an option as I don't know how long I plan to stay at this position.
I am not sure about X plan but I know A/Z/D plans are good for the entire calender year. Meaning if you get it on Jan 1 you can use it up till Dec 31. I know I have had folks leave the plant and get a PIN # for a purchase before they leave and use it 6 months later. Something worth checking into. Call 1-800-348-7709 and ask, that is the A/X/Z/D plan HQ. If that don't work let me know and I will dig up a web address for you. -
leeharvey418 Posts: 38I already know that unless a miracle occurs, this summer when I'm in the market for my next vehicle, no dealer for 200 miles is going to have one that is exactly what I want. Has anyone ever had any experience with ordering vehicles through one of these programs? Would I probably be able to get at least as good a deal by contacting a dealer's fleet manager directly?
On another note- my wife has access to a special buying program through her work. (corporateperks.com) Has anyone ever used this service?
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The friend says Kelly believes ... if her ex Daniel Giersch really did set up the shot -- it would be a violation of a court order against exposing the couple's kids to the media.
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Kids look pretty happy to me, doubt this approach is going to help her in her appeal, trying to take an awesome moment with the kids in a picture and turn it into something negative. Think the best advice she could take is to quit while she's ahead.
Bullcrappuckies, that doesn't look like the face of an annoyed woman staring into a paps camera. I call Shena****ns, she set up the photo op to blame him. Nice try, Kelly.
Ummmmm remember Kelley was the one that started the whole WAR with her unfounded accusations about him. Bet she regrets that now . . .
Wondering what kind of plastic surgery that lying skank Kartrashian is having. She must be since she has been not on TMZ for a while. That's a good thing.
I'm going to have to agree with her. Look, when most people are in situations like this, when do the kids have balloons and signs waiting for the mom or dad to pick them up? He called the photographers. He's trying to make himself out to be the perfect parent. Quite possibly he is. Who knows? He needs to keep his kids out of the media.
> Of course she didn't know, otherwise, why would she be Staring Right At The Camera?
> Her Ex made sure the kids had balloons, a sign calling her a "SUPER MOM", got them all excited about seeing her. Obviously, this man has a super sinister plan to make the kids hate her and to make her life miserable.
> I think the only person here who is embroiled in a "bitter custody war" is Kelly Rutherford, and so far all she's done is shoot herself in the foot.
Hold on! Would you rather the children grow up without their dad? Are you not being little selfish here? He can't visit the US, you can visit France yet you want to get sole custody of your children (your as in both of you)? Chic, that's just being too mean!
I am sure that she set that up. Half the world new she would be going to France ASAP after the court last week. She doesnt looked like she is surprised by the photo (she is smiling) plus her kids look delighted to see their father not horrified like she says they are when they see him!!!
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look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5
The Angry Planet comes in a golden-amber pour with a huge head that doesn't seem to be going away. Lots of lacing. Pretty impressive. The smell has some fruitiness to it, but not much else.
I've heard that this is organic, but don't see any evidence on the bottle. I'm not sure if that's the issue, but I don't feel like the hops are coming through quite enough for an APA. It's still got a nice taste with a solid malt backbone, but we need a bit more kick out of the hops. The mouthfeel is pretty solid: substantial but not overly complex.
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Appearance: Clear red-copper color with a finger amount of head that holds very nicely. The lacing is also very good at sticking and holding to the glass.
Aroma: I picked up some orange-grapefruit from the American hops, but with some kind of funk-tang I can't identify.
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Overall: The harsh bitterness was unfavorable and the hop aroma was less than expected. The malt character was difficult to pickup until warmer. For the style it seems a little off with a few things.
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A: Dark copper-red with 1-2 fingers of pretty rocky, off-white head with good retention and ample lacing.
S: Decent aroma with grapefruit and honeysuckle combining with some lemon and floral notes. The maltiness doesn't have a lot of character in the aroma. There is a "homebrew" tanginess to the aroma.
T: The tanginess follows through to the flavor as well. The beer is not well enough attenuated and leaves too many sweet malt sugars which give this beer a tangy, light lemonade flavor with much more bitterness. I think this beer would be a lot better with less bitterness, namely less early- and mid-boil hop additions and more late-boil hop additions to increase the hop flavor without the big bitterness. There is also a midl vegetal flavor that would also improve with less early hopping. THe maltiness is mildly crackery but is not interesting enough to carry the big bitterness.
M: Average carbonation with medium-light medium body and not enough dryness.
O: Not a good or great example of the style, merely middle of the road. Has some attenuation problems and drinks like an average homebrew not a refined craft beer.
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Diving through the thick black curtain that masked Recyclart's doors and into the dimly lit hall that was once a train station ticket foyer, those arriving directly from Brigittines were greeted with a scene not dissimilar to what one might have imagined Berlin's krautrock-defining Zodiak Free Arts Club to resemble: a mass of instruments, both electronic and acoustic, sprawled out over numerous tables across a large section of the room. Unlike the Zodiak, however, the slow trickle of visitors arriving at the second venue of the night were not invited to experiment with the equipment on display—though many did take the time to wander up to the instruments and trainspot the gear. Tucked away in a dark corner of the room, Kompakt Records artist Barnt sped up records by hand and added splashes of his own percussion before he dropped the beat in at exactly one minute to midnight.
Photo credit: Caroline Lessire
Hunched over his microphone and hidden behind a mask of jet-black hair, former Can lead vocalist Damo Suzuki led the audience through an hour of groove-based improvised electronics alongside fellow Groupshow members Jan Jelinek, Andrew Pekler and Hanno Leichtmann. The spontaneous nature of their performance was so loose that it felt like it might collapse at any moment, yet this was part of the appeal. The intensity of the relationship between the musicians had the audience enthralled, eyes and ears glued on the performers and the kinetic energy between them. This exploration of spontaneous music continued with a muscular performance from MM/KM (AKA Kassem Mosse and Mix Mup), whose 909 hats and acid-tinged basslines sent the crowd into a frenzy. As the early morning haze set in, Anthony 'Shake' Shakir masterfully rounded off what had been one of the most expertly curated, enriching and ambitious nights Brussels has seen in some time.
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Sparkling Citrus Cider
Yield: 8 servings
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Amount per serving
- Calories: 102
- Calories from fat: 2%
- Fat: 0.2g
- Saturated fat: 0.0g
- Monounsaturated fat: 0.0g
- Polyunsaturated fat: 1g
- Protein: 0.8g
- Carbohydrate: 25g
- Fiber: 0.4g
- Cholesterol: 0.0mg
- Iron: 0.5mg
- Sodium: 5mg
- Calcium: 22mg
- 2 1/2 cups fresh orange juice (about 8 oranges)
- 1 1/2 cups fresh tangerine juice (about 6 tangerines)
- 1 (25.4-ounce) bottle sparkling apple cider, chilled
- 1/4 cup grenadine
- Strain orange and tangerine juices through a cheesecloth-lined colander into a large bowl, discarding pulp. Combine juices and cider in a large pitcher. Pour 3/4 cup into each of 8 glasses. Slowly pour 1 1/2 teaspoons grenadine down inside of each glass (do not stir before serving).
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We didn't know there was such a thing as a Lapto Plobbyist, let alone that that they would have their own Web site, www.laptoplobbyist.com. (Is that something like "ectoplasm," the residue of ghosts?)
But this ultra-right-wing group came to our attention this morning for their role in provoking a talented young journalist named Rachel Buchman to apparently end her career.
Here's the official story, as related this morning by the Inquirer's Michael Klein and on the radio by WPHT's Michael Smerconish:
Buchman, a 27-year-old radio reporter at Philadelphia's NPR affiliate, WHYY (90.9 FM), quit because of an (understatment alert) ill-advised telephone voicemail she left for the Lapto Plobbyists. In its entirety, she said:
"Hi, my name is Rachel, and my telephone number is... I wanted to tell you that you're evil, horrible people. You're awful people. You represent horrible ideas. God hates you and he wants to kill your children. You should all burn in hell. Bye."
Hey, at least she was nice enough to say "bye." OK, so maybe you're thinking this is another example of crazy left-wing liberal bias? That's certainly the way that Klein and Smerconish spun the story.
But God only knows what these people did to provoke her. As radio legend Paul Harvey (a conservative, no less) used to say: "Now, the rest of the story."
Simply put, and crafting our words very carefully here, the game that the good wingnuts at laptoplobbyist.com are playing is to whip conservatives into a frenzy over some "moral" issue. The latest -- a campaign against Pa.'s own Sen. Arlen Specter, who "has consistently voted in favor of killing unborn babies."
Then it likes to ask for their money, payable by a major credit card. Usually, $20. For what? To send out an angry fax to a bunch of senators and Congress people. You read that right: $20 to send a fax.
Does Kinko's know about this?
Here's how the Bergen Record (sorry, no link) described it:
Laptoplobbyist.com, a year-old conservative group outside Washington that claims to have 150,000 subscribers to its e-mail list, has built its mission around the "Insta-Fax." For a $20 donation (payable by credit card), Laptoplobbyist.com will send a fax with your name to a group of politicians it has selected.
Executive Director Chris Carmouche says faxes are the best way for ordinary people to get a politician's attention, because members of Congress have adopted computerized methods for ignoring e-mail from the public while giving the impression that those messages are being read.
Although Laptoplobbyist.com prides itself on its members' active participation, it doesn't allow people to customize their letters. "The one thing we want to do is stay on message," Carmouche said.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg. As recently as this February, the executive director of the Maryland Republican Party publicly accused laptoplobbyist.com of "blackmail" (his words, not ours) by asking for a $100,000 fee to help win approval for slot machines, or else it would instead help anti-slots Democrats (which it subsequently did.)
What's more, Carter Clews, the longtime GOP, far-right lobbyist who chairs laptoplobbyist.com, recently worked a stint as creative director for (we swear we're not making this up) for Inphomation Communications, the company behind the Psychic Friends Network (of Dionne Warwick fame), which filed for federal bankruptcy owing creditors $26 million.
There's much, much more. Clews, who started out as an anti-labor activist in the late 1970s and worked in a variety of conservative oriented political jobs during the Reagan years, became semi-famous in 1985 when he charged that he'd helped White House allies illegally funnel money to a right-wing party in Spain, when he worked for PR legend Robert Gray. He also was fired and then re-hired by the Federal Trade Commission under Reagan for sending an anti-Michael Dukakis letter to newspapers.
Christopher Carmouche (can you do the fandango?), the executive director of laptoplobbyist.com, is also quoted and appears on TV as a kind of a spokesman for the Christian Coalition. He's railed against things like a negative review in Newsweek of "The Passion of the Christ."
In a 1999 Financial Times article about the coalition, Carmouche expressed frustration with the political process and said, "Frankly, I hate them all."
Heh heh. "Hate." We wonder if his boss knows he said that.
Oh my. I'm not sure whether to laugh or lock my doors.
Posted by: Chris at November 30, 2004 01:17 PM$20 for a fax? That is such a brilliant idea to make money. I need to start my own "God Hates Fags But Loves Unborn Babies" website, and ask for a $20 donation for faxes and a $50 donation for a, uh, letter. People don't have time to write letters anymore. Yeah. I'll even send the damn faxes.
Posted by: ChrisV82 at December 1, 2004 12:27 AMFrom their site:
It's time for the liberal left to apologize to the American People, pledge allegiance to the reelected President of the United States and... well... "move on"?
Um, is that what the pledge of allegiance has changed into? Fuck the country, be loyal to the president. fucking right wing zealots.
So they fiqured out how to avoid email?
And you think they can't avoid faxes?
No ink, and a paper continous belt of
little length.
or waste basket at end of fax receiver?
Boy would you have to be gulicow to fall for
Shirley, there is fax bouncing software too,
So... Laptoplobbyist.com, by its mere existence, "provoked" Rachel to profess her hatred of them, to wish death upon them and their children, as well as eternal damnation. Gotcha. Do you still wonder why Democrats are starting to be known as the party of hate?
Posted by: Leah at December 1, 2004 11:09 PMMy understanding is that Chris Carmouche and laptoplobbyist.com intentionally spammed Ms. Buchman. She tried to get him to stop more than once and he did not comply. This was unwanted political porn to her. Mr. Carmouche should clean up his act.
Why did Rachel resign? There was nothing wrong with what she said. If that's what God told her he was going to do then so be it. Is Chris putting himself above God now?
Posted by: The SHAT at December 13, 2004 08:13 PMShut up Leah, you dumbass. You should read more and talk less. Now as for Our Gang in LaptopLobbyist.com- its not even worth hacking these guys since their website is like a one legged dog drunk on tequila.
Conservatives don't like change. When you lift up a rock, you see all the yucky, moving gunk on its underside.
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