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It will be safe once the media works out how natural it is for us and presents it to the world constantly. Right now there is this wave of "being different from straights" and that's what looks like it's not going to subside. When the media can get past that, the country will get past that, and you'll be able to walk anywhere. Some say we're there but I'm not one of them.
Lovely article and I kind of agree with Stu-it is necessary for us to continue to push the 'perceived' boundaries so that eventually walking hand in hand in all areas is seen as acceptable (maybe not in my lifetime though I will admit)
I agree with you somewhat but I do think being who you are and who i am is and some parts should be accepted as Brighton, in which i live very close to, is liberal and has a huge gay pride celebration as you know Ethan (it's where i discovered you and the boys and Becky ;)) However 10 minutes down the road in Lewes, It's not so accepted, although people aren't attacked, there aren't liberal people. For the 12 years i've lived there i've seen 1 couple, an old friend (who doesn't hold hands) and me. I wish it was world widely accepted, it's natural and why should it be a struggle to deliver the news of being LGBT.
Being LGBT is wonderful, although i'm noy widely ouyt yet… I hope to be soon :) x -
yeah its still sad to see biggotry all over the country. it seems most of the areas known for less friendly towards gay people are the same that have high crime stats. whenever i get hassle its off some kid on a bmx, and usually in an area with high crime stats. im not trying to say criminals are homophobes but just another reason police on the street would improve these areas.
id also speculate that ignorance could be dealt with by a decent educational system. (understatement)
"I think we'll have to make do with Soho Square when the sun is out, make do" – yeah right – let's all cower in fear and live in a ghetto. Fella, this is not the experience of most gays of all ages up and down the country – we're not content to "make do" – those who have come before us who really had to fight in the 70s and 80s did so for us to not cower and "make do". They made sacrifices so we could live free and open lives so just get on with it and when we see bigotry in any shape or form we challenge it – so we're not pushed back into the sidelines of society.
Absolutely. We have to challenge and confront the issues that cause us to have fear. My experience is when we do there is little likelihood of experiencing any negative reaction.
As more people are willing to show affection to their partner, so society become normalised to it, so the risk of confrontation and a negative experience weakens and so more people feel comfortable in being honest in expressing their affection.
If we take the risk and are honest in displaying affection, usually we will find that the worst reaction we would get is a glance – and more often than not a positive and friendly smile and encouragement. If we then feel confident in expressing that affection we are more likely to do it again, more people will see it and it creates a culture of tolerance and acceptance and tackles fear of what might happen (which is often not grounded in fact).
Berlin and San Francisco did not become places comfortable to be open in, by people being frightened to be themselves.
I live in quite a little town called Ashford in Kent and its quite a homophobic town, growing up here i have had nothing but trouble with narrow minded people, and wouldn't dare walk down the street holding hands with my partner. Although i dream of the day that i can! I hate the fact that i have to travel nearly two hours to London or Brighton just to feel excepted or to be able to walk through the town centre and not get abuse! unfortunately that's the way it is. The way i look at it is, 10 years ago it was less accepting, now its nearly accepted so maybe in another 10 years it will be more accepting! I think that the government need to teach about gay awareness in secondary schools so that the next generation are educated about diversity in the community and don't have the same mind set as our older generations do and maybe one day i will feel more comfortable to walk hand in hand with my man down the street! :)
We have had this debate here as well.
We call it "QUEERPHOBIA" where you feel you cannot be gay outside your area or gay community.
But it also reflects society as a whole. It has still to come to terms with us as being part of society. This is going to take time. Probably another generational change.
It also needs to find some balance where you do not lose completely your identity/ sexuality and who you are.
But certain members in the gay community would love us to lose this, especially our sexuality so we can become more inclusive and part of society. Bring back Oppression.
You are warned.
I agree. Some people put fitting in over individuality.
Since I get insulted on the street just for having ginger hair here in Wigan, it's going to be a while until I can hold hands with a bloke or wear a skirt.
This interesting article reminds me of a quote from Priscilla, Queen of the Desert which seems quite apt….
Bernadette: [to Felicia] It's funny. We all sit around mindlessly slagging off that vile stink-hole of a city. But in its own strange way, it takes care of us. I don't know if that ugly wall of suburbia's been put there to stop them getting in, or us getting out. Come on. Don't let it drag you down. Let it toughen you up. I can only fight because I've learnt to. Being a man one day and a woman the next isn't an easy thing to do.
Priscilla is indeed a great film. I watched it the other day, and was astounded when I realised it's almost 20 years old.
I'd like to think we've come a fair way in terms of acceptance in 20 years. But it seems we still have our "safe" gay areas. I think the only way that changes is if we all challenge lack of acceptance outside gay areas. It may feel a bit uncomfortable, but it will be worth it.
If I hide, then I become invisible. Invisible people don't have any rights. I understand why some people rather not demonstrate affection on conservative areas, but conservatives need to understand we are not stepping back. We will not let them have it their way just because they are going to look at us funny.
If danger is perceived I highly suggest not to show any affection to avoid any situation where violence might come up. But it's not ok the fact that there are only certain areas where we can be free without fearing. In order to change that, we need to become visible and let others know it's too many of us to win that fight.
By becoming invisible we also bring harm to LGBT youth. Those living in conservative areas will continue to repress their sexuality, they will continue to think of themselves as freaks. They think there's no one else like them. Soon they start hating themselves for being gay and hating others who are gay. Invisibility is no option.
I think this issue ultimately concerns the fear of violence. There are certain places, particularly within inner urban areas, where one would not feel safe holding hands with someone of the same sex. This is primarily a cultural issue. Blatant homophobia is still rife in certain groups in the UK, particularly among certain religious groups and nationalities.
It would be interesting though to see how heterosexual couples feel about holding hands, and whether that is also perceived as an issue in certain areas – albeit for different reasons.
The whole debate reminds me of an episode of the US version of Queer As Folk. The very camp character Emmet becomes a mini celebrity for having a "queer eye" slot on the news. Brian, the "straight acting" gay informs him all of the people that claim to adore him only do so because he is, in their minds, a eunuch.
I've heard it said countless times, "I don't have a problem with gay people, I just don't want to see it." A completely oxymoronic statement but it does seem a popular one.
It's a bit of a catch-22 situation. If you deliberately choose to tailor your behaviour out of fear of reprisal then you're just contributing to the problem. If you do hold hands, it's seen as being deliberately inflammatory and you're causing trouble.
Given that we can't win either way I've always just done what I've wanted. If someone thinks I'm causing trouble, I really don't care. If they want to get so incensed that they break the law, the law is on our side, so I'll go with that for now :)
Things are changing, and changing for the better. It's just that the changes happen at glacial speed.
Although you say that there are parts of Manchester where you wouldn't feel comfortable holding your boyfriend's hand, there are many other parts of the city where you would. Many years ago, I was a student in Manchester; and I certainly didn't feel safe (let alone comfortable) holding my boyfriend's hand anywhere in the city. That was the era when Manchester's chief constable talked about "homosexuals swirling around in a cesspit of their own making". At that time, Canal Street was mainly derelict and boarded up; now it's probably the trendiest place on the planet, and all because GLBT folk are so visible there.
At the current rate of progress, you'll be happy to hold your boyfriend's hand in Cheetham Hill in just another 70 or 80 years. I hope you can wait.
It's extremely sad that it's unsafe for some homosexual couples to hold hands or present themselves as a couple in public. I would like to be able to hold hands with or give a kiss to a woman I'm in a relationship with. I can even be targeted for my androgynous appearance, let alone that. I have zero issue with PDA, it's just I'm a little afraid of how people would react- I don't want to be physically injured or killed.
I don't know how it is in the UK, but outside of major US gay friendly cities, and even there, it's not safe at all. Especially in the South.
Depending on the location I'm in, I'd just hold hands with a woman though. I can handle people yelling at me to a certain extent, I just don't want to get hurt :P.
I find that rather odd. I often see two or more girls holding hands or hugging, and they aren't even lesbians. Women tend to be much more 'touchy-feely' than men in general and I was of the assumption that it was generally acceptable behaviour worldwide for women to do that. However, with men, that's an entirely different ball game…
Girls yes. Not women over say 30? though. Especially ones who, as Lumi describes, dress androgynously. And girls don't walk round the supermarket holding hands once they get past adolescence. I think because homosexuality is more open now, a lot more lesbians are noticed than would have been before. And a lot of the time it's by people who have a problem with it.
In a lot of places in Southern Asia men can hold hands, but that's because it's custom (e.g. Bangladesh) and is seen as our equivalent of slapping another guy on the back. Thus a lot of gay men can go unnoticed there but he acknowledgement that homosexuality even exists is nil, so assuming that that those men would have any kind of physical or affectionate relationship just doesn't happen. They're still hiding, just in a different way.
People want to play it safe and therefore you will rarely see two men holding hands except in gay areas. It is a good idea to be streetwise, we can't all walk round with rear-view mirrors fitted to our heads.
Having said that I saw the two gay ballroom dancers, the Sugar Dandies audition in Britain's Got Talent and they were well received by the audience and the judges including Simon Cowell. Not all that long ago the audience would have been baying for blood. They have been put through to be selected for the semi-finals and I look forward to seeing them then.-
I agree with the general thrust of your comment, Gingerlycolors!
I do agree that society has moved on in leaps and bounds over the past 20-30 years and more.
The dancers on BGT been welcomed with enormous warmth from (probably) all of the audience in the theatre. Regular gay characters in soaps being welcomed with strong support from the audience. Openly gay sports stars, politicians, journalists, doctors, police officers, mechanics, teachers, builders, chefs, bank managers, gardeners, factory workers etc – whether well known, or known in their circle of friends – has led to an increased acceptance of gay people in society. The attitude I see is people saying (whatever their own orientation) either they are not bothered about the orientation of anyone else or that they welcome that gay people can be open.
I slightly disagree with you about not seeing two guys holding hands often. I honestly don't see that many straight or gay couples hold hands but I see some of each.
Being tolerated is not the same as being accepted. London, will always be dangerous due to poorer uneducated people coming to do the rubbish jobs. Churches and the free papers in london are our enemies.
I agree, but tolerance paths the road to acceptance. These things are never going to happen overnight, and I think it's probably more of a generational thing. When I was a kid, there was one black kid in my school, these days there might be some with only a handful of white ones. It's a matter of growing up and understanding and accommodating.
The biggest problem is the religionists because they refuse to do so and follow their 2000 year old scriptures to the word. Hopefully though, they will be seen for what they are by generations to come and just fizzle out, at least in this country. Somehow though, I doubt it, so we are always going to be disapproved of by some, that's just the way it is.
I would rather have acceptance, and in many many cases that is what I and other gay people get, day in, day out in the UK.
In some cases there is mere tolerance. It is a stepping stone away from hostility, rejections or antipathy; and towards acceptance.
Yes, there are still cases of complete intolerence and blatant hostility. They tend to be vocal, although rarely powerful (other that the delusions of grandeur that they have about their own influence and power). The volume of their hostility can be unsettling and can feed the fire of fear of a reaction to being openly expressive by holding hands etc..
We are a long way down the track to where we were 100, 50, 30, 20 or even 10 years ago. We need to challenge homophobia and antipathy (of course, with an element of streetwise attitudes – although not allowing fear to control us).
I agree its a pathway to acceptance, and to be welcomed. Lots of people who seek real acceptance and equality (which I do) only focus on the goal …
… forgetting about the journey that has already been travelled to reach the situation where there is acceptance in some places and tolerance in many others. They forget the starting point and the many changes (both legal and cultural) that have taken place to ensure the level of LGBT freedom and support there is in UK society today. That should not stop us keeping our eyes on the goal. We should always strive for real and meaningful equality and acceptance. We need to be honest with ourselves though and recognise the successes there have been and not let fear trap us, when the reality (in most cases) is that there is acceptance or tolerance across most areas of the UK. Those that do not support, endorse, encourage or tolerate LGBT people are a minority (unfortunately often vocal).
I would rather have acceptance, and in many many cases that is what I and other gay people get, day in, day out in the UK.
In some cases there is mere tolerance. It is a stepping stone away from hostility, rejections or antipathy; and towards acceptance.
Yes, there are still cases of complete intolerence and blatant hostility. They tend to be vocal, although rarely powerful (other that the delusions of grandeur that they have about their own influence and power). The volume of their hostility can be unsettling and can feed the fire of fear of a reaction to being openly expressive by holding hands etc..
We are a long way down the track to where we were 100, 50, 30, 20 or even 10 years ago. We need to challenge homophobia and antipathy (of course, with an element of streetwise attitudes – although not allowing fear to control us).
I agree its a pathway to acceptance, and to be welcomed. Lots of people who seek real acceptance and equality (which I do) only focus on the goal …
Apologies for double post (the continuation is on the original message above)
Somebody on this site really doesn't seem to like you.
It seems that way. I have a sneaking suspicion who it is – but hey I have my opinions and thats what comment forums are all about – expressing them.
Yawn. Being gay is still seen as something weird and off the norm. In cosmopolitan areas like central London there are lots of weird and off the norm looking people so the public tends to be less reactionary
Yawn. Being gay is still seen by many as something weird and off the norm. In cosmopolitan areas like central London there are lots of weird and off the norm looking people, so the public generally tends to be less reactionary to two men holding hands walking down the street
Weird looking people in london? yea right, maybe in the 80s. And if someone does look anyway alternative or different , londoners are very reactionary in a negative capacity. As for two blokes holding hands walking down oxford street , been there done it, got called dirty batty bois a lot.
Last time I walked along the street in Hackney with my boyfriend, hand in hand, I got smiles and encouraging words from passers by
Yes of course you did, if i mentioned at what time, and what area i was in being homophobically abused , i'm sure you were there ten minutes later(in your head anyway) holding hands with some bloke and everyone loved you lol! you are desperate to attempt to persuade others to your delusion..Was this you or were you in fantasy zone being one of your multiple personae, which you were exposed as having many alias on these threads, its hard to take anything you say as truth.
I am more than comfortable in who I am, and have freely admitted and apologised for errors.
I know that I walked happily hand in hand along the street in Hackney with my boyfriend, without a problem.
You choose not to believe me. I know its the truth. Do I care if you don't believe me? Not at all.
Do I resort to the childish petulent comments you have just made? No
Do I admit when I am wrong? Yes
I used to think you occasionally had something worth saying, now I realise how mistaken I was.
@stu ,childish? ironic coming from someone who has multiple alias on these threads and has nothing to offer but your obsessional need to monopolise these boards. Clearly , you are very concerned with every post on here, these threads are your 24/7 existence after all, judging by how long you spend on here, i'm surprised you get the chance to walk with your "boyfriend" hand in hand to so many places, but then i'm not as naive as some on here and say you just spout bull.
When I made a mistake I admitted it, before it was even noticed by anyone.
I apologised and regretted what I did.
I was big enough and man enough to admit my shortcomings.
Again I dont care whether you believe in my story or not. Its the truth. It doesnt fit in with your rheotric that there are no-go zones for gay people, and you know what I think thats fantastic as it helps demonstrate that the fear your rhetoric helps perculate and fester is just that – lies and fear.
For the record, up until Saturday I had not been on here for a week .. why, because I had been earning a living responding to emergency calls and serving the public. Yeah, I am back at work (reduced hours but back there)
So your needling and childish attacks are nothing to me.
You are nothing to me
"you are nothing to me" your words are worthless clearly ,as you convey by your seething, desperation to respond to my comments, if i meant nothing to you then why are you still trying to engage me with your petty issues. You are delusional, a fantasist , just 5 second entertainment for me but now you have reached tedium by being soo tragic, and you definitely do not serve any public by trolling here.
Well, I dont need your approval, rapture and nor do I want it
Trolling … oh is that what you think of me, how funny … untrue, humerous though …
As for coming of here to do service, no thats not my intention – I come on here to debate. I leave serving people to when Im working.
I gather you dont like me, the feelings mutual – but I find you entertaining from your little man mentality, and if you're not a little man, well you certainly come across as one.
@stu Thats right stu attempt to plagerise my content in above post.you come across as a very disturbed individual creating the make believe world so many of your ilk can, by creating other personae , false "personal "stories on the internet. I'm just surprised how gullible some regular commentaters are on here, that actually tolerate your tripe , seeing your wholly false claims as worthy of debate.. You need a psychiatrist. I do so hope you get help and a life.
Let's form a 'Visibility Group' with groups of say 4 LGBT people 'zapping' areas. Have a same-sex couple hold hands and walk through a targeted area with the other 2 following discretely monitoring what's happening and reporting the zap back on (probably) Facebook. If there's any homophobia there's 4 people ready and (probably trained) to confront it.
In this country, we call that "Entrapment".
The only way to change attitudes is to confront them head-on. If you don't like my idea Spanner1960, what is your suggestion?
Living our lives normally, holding hands with our partners when we feel its something we want to do (and our sense of being street wise does not warn us off). Continue to demonstrate that being LGBT is normal.
Not vigilantism ….
Precisely as Stu suggests.
You don't go around trying to force people's hands. You simply do what comes naturally, and no differently than any straight couple.
As an old man who grew up in London when being gay was illegal, got married, came out, divorced, lived with a guy, then lived with another guy for 20 years and got a c.p. I have been on a roller coaster ride of antipathy and acceptance.
i was the first person to come out at my central London council workplace in the 80′s and went on loads of marches waving placards and confronting this and that.
However, the simple matter of holding hands was uncomfortable to me because it could only be used as a political statement. If I publicly held hands I was constantly on edge to see if anyone was going to react, which then killed the warm purpose of holding hands in the first place.
So as I have grown older I have just got used to not holding hands in public and i suspect I would feel uncomfortable doing so now. This may be a view shared by other older retired activists.
Similar life history Hollyhock. When my fella and I are out and about (15years together) we generally feel comfortable. I greet him with a kiss when I meet him or leave him in public. We have never had any problems staying at hotels, holding hands at concerts, in the cinema etc etc. But generally we do not hold hands when we are out walking. I would like to more but no matter what anyone says it IS a question of being cautious and streetwise. Compton Street is fine. The Marais in Paris is more than fine. My saddest experience is that when we have had uncomfortable comments from public – only a few – they have all been from black men and women.
I had a similar experience in Amsterdam 12 years ago. No one batted an eye lid to both myself and my German boyfriend at the time. However, the homophobic comments that we got were from White British people. I suppose we all have different experiences.
My partner and I walk hand in hand or arm in arm most places ! not because we wish to gain a reaction but because after 23 years we dont care what others think, we are happy and we go where we wish to.. we live in Kent these days and yep we are pretty much the only gays in the village but its never been an issue in fact the only place we have ever had a comment made that we heard was in Brighton " Oh aint that sweet I hope when I am as old as those two I am still in love and want to hold your hand" that did make us chuckle the chicken was about 18 …. I to hope he does still feel the love of a good man as I do x
Nice one! Doom and gloom existences on here make for depressing reading. A nice (and balanced) commentary on, probably, most gay experiences. May you hold hands forever!
I get what people are saying about making a stand, not being invisible, standing up and being counted yada yada yada. But sometimes I want to hold my wife's hand just because I love her, not to make a political statement. So there are areas where I would choose not to do that for fear of reprisal. But I also acknowledge that the fear of reprisal is often out of proportion to the actual chance of it happening.
Balance is what is needed.
I never hold hands with my boyfriend nor did I with any of my ex's to make a political stand. I do it because I love him and because I loved them.
I do it because I am proud to be seen with my bf and associated with him. I do it as a sign to each other of our love for one another. I do it because its what I want to do, and its what feels right.
I recognise that a side effect is that it means I am not invisible and introduces an element of normality about two guys walking hand in hand to some in society. I have received encouragement from strangers for doing so. It is standing up and being counted, but thats not the reason I choose to. I do so because I love my man.
Let's face it, there is NO place on earth so liberal or accepting that most gay people feel as open and accepted in displaying public affection as straight couples do. Not even in Brighton nor San Francisco nor Amsterdam. NOWHERE! The problem is, most gay people have no idea what it feels like to be FULLY and COMPLETELY accepted in society or in public because they have never REALLY experienced it. Because of this we come to believe that sneaking a kiss when nobody's looking, and not being assaulted, is equal acceptance. We won't achieve full acceptance until we can kiss in line at the grocery store, or even act out inappropriately in ANY situation and receive the same response from those around us that straight people do. When straight people are going overboard with public affection, most people just politely ignore it and don't say anything. I don't promote over the top PDA, but I think when it happens with gay people they should receive the same consideration as straights.
Well said, Hayden! :o)
The thing that you aren't getting is the historical context for all these things.
Perhaps its harder for someone younger to grasp given how many things appear to have come to fruition during the past 10 years (which may account for the largest part of a younger person's life).
Holding hands, public displays of affection (PDAs), kissing – these are all things which in the oddest sense are the last bastions of sexual liberation for Lesbian & Gay couples & groups.
Its the 'do what you want but don't thrust it in my face' bollocks.
Firstly, these things will change in time – that part is inevitable as we become increasingly more visible & commonplace. Historically in the UK this is actually mostly a problem for Gay men – as it has long been more acceptable for women to show affection to each other in public without any undue attention.
Similarly there are many places in the world where it is acceptable for me to do the same; holding hands or kissing close friends or relatives in public – and this being among straight men…
People should check out the Day In Hand Campaign: http://www.adayinhand.com/
Historically in the UK the issue of Gay men was perceived as one of sexual perversion – whereby people wanted to sweep the issue out of the way, under the carpet.
Now we are finally being accepted (ironically) in a non-sexualised kind of way – ie in the same way that married straight couples have traditionally been viewed.
Noone generally thinks of sex when straight couples kiss each other hello or hold hands walking thru the street – although of course there are certain places around the world who are actually hung up about that in the same way that they were in the UK about Gay men…(witness the couples arrested in Saudi for kissing on the beach…!)
Things change by visibility – the more visible these things are/become the less consternation they will cause among the more uptight and sexually repressed members of our society.
Sexual repression is key in understanding the problems of social acceptance facing all sexual minorities…
Great article and something I have also thought about. We have the same problem in the in US, you "can be gay" in the gay ghetto and you can be careful everywhere else. Yeah, it's true of even cities like NY and SF, not as enlightened as you might think. In North American, the one city I find very gay friendly is Montreal, Canada. I feel very safe walking hand in hand and even kissing my boyfriend anywhere in the city. It's pretty cool to feel so free and just like everyone else. Plus, those Anglo/frog boys are just so hot…oh sorry that's off topic. Cheers!
"Soho wouldn't really be Soho if it weren't something of a refuge for LGBT individuals, it would just be a cakey, gelato haven with a few brothels for good measure."
Its historically incorrect to say this, as Soho has ALWAYS been a vibrant and mixed community over the centuries and will continue to be so – after all, its only had a sizeable gay visibility for a relatively short period of time (coming to fruition as we know it now over the past 20 years)
If anything, given the decline in recent years in the number of people using the gay pubs in the area, it is very likely that Soho will soon shift once again
"Vibrant"? Not the word I would have used for it 30 years ago.
Try "sleazy, dirty, crime-ridden, rat-infested cesspit full of cheap clip joints and dirty hookers" would be slightly closer to the mark.Soho has really turned around since then, and the gay village is just part of that reconstruction.
There's certainly such a thing as geographical homophobia. I lived in Peckham for 11 years. I am not gay, and was quite detached from the wider Peckham community, but I still picked up on the vicious homophobia there. I never once saw a gay couple holding hands, and I'm not surprised. At primary school, the worst thing you could be was gay. Kids would often say that they wanted to kill all 'batty men'. Same with the older generation- on a 36 bus going past the Vauxhall tavern, my dad saw two old ladies talking about how gays should all die. It was usual to see a drunk/drugged person on a rant in the street about 'batty men' as well. In some areas, homophobia is just ingrained in the locals, and I cannot blame gay people from steering clear of them.
And while I understand that there is a lot of white British homophobia, my understanding of it was that a lot of the worst anti-gay sentiment had been imported from other cultures which were immune to any type of criticism.
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The Broncos are going for two. Cutler is in the shotgun and takes off toward the end zone. He gets in on his own with a run up the middle. It looked like the same formation from the first time Denver ran a two-point conversion against the Chargers 15 weeks ago.
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Topic tags/keywords: baby Uh….baby project, I should say. LOL My best friend is finally having his first child, and I'd like to make the happy couple and/or baby something, but I just don't know what. Not a cradle, or those beds with the slide up railings….something else….but I'm coming up short on WHAT to make. Any ideas? -- Have a blessed day! |
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First, I'm glad you added the word project. I don't think we really need to go into ideas for making a baby. ;-0 Changing tables/dressers are always useful for newborns. Or, if you want to look down the road a bit, there's always a child-size rocking chair, a step stool for when they can't reach the sink. High chairs or booster seats can be very nice as well. -- Working at Woodworking http://www.VillageLaneFurniture.com |
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Hi Patrick, Cradles, cribs, rattles, blocks all come to mind. I once saw a beautiful baby carriage with sled runners on it. I guess it would be cool toodling around Veil with a newborn LOL. It was all made of laminated wood for the bucket. I can't find the picture any more. -- Scott - Chico California http://chicowoodnut.home.comcast.net |
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Picture frames and for later pull toys and as Russel said a rocking chair or a rocking horse. -- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins. |
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Ideas for making a baby????!!!! So much for family values! :-) Did anyone say rocking horse? -- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood" |
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If you're looking down the road a little bit maybe an easel/chalkboard? -- You're a unique and special person, just like everyone else. |
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Wow, all good ideas, gang, keep them coming please! -- Have a blessed day! |
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What? No other ideas?! -- Have a blessed day! |
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There are a couple of changing table projects on the site I believe. If you're looking for "heirloom" I guess that may be the wrong direction though. Oops, I see Russel already mentioned that. Kiersten, a new member on here, has some wonderful toy chest ideas also. You may want to look at them for inspiration. -- Better to say nothing and be thought the fool... then to speak and erase all doubt! |
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A high chair comes to mind. Rocking horse is good. Of course a small child's chair is always a good thing. Depends on what you want to do, make the parents happy now, or the baby happy later. blocks are always good, pull toys, baby puzzles, rattles, toy box, keep sake box, a shadow box with space for baby's first shoes, first spoon, first anything else. -- Like a bad penny, I keep coming back! |
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I like Betsy's idea of keepsake box, or shadow box for the firsts. Our childrens firsts are in a box somewhere. Good thought Betsy. -- Bill - If I knew GRANDKIDS were so much fun I would have had them first. |
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Timeout Chair. -- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne |
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or Wood Paddle. -- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne |
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or something more rustic. Oak Switch. -- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne |
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Geez Giz—- did you have a hard childhood..? Lots of penalty ideas there. -- Like a bad penny, I keep coming back! |
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I like the idea of a rocking horse. The rocking horse I had as a child was used by my daughter and now by her children. Some type of heirloom that can be pasted on thru the generation. I also made a steamer trunk for my wife to pass on to her daughter and granddaughter (pictured on my sight). Thanks for asking. God Bless -- Mc Bridge Cabinets, Iowa |
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Google may be the biggest game in town but not the only game in town and very well not the best game in town before long if not already. Mr. Gates said on an interview the other night when asked what he likes best about the new MS AdCenter and running it. He said he likes the competition. hehe This may be a new beginning for the better. Did I mention MS allows you to import your adgroups from Google. They just need an adsense type prog to increase traffic and surfer awareness and Google may have some stiff competition. If anyone can knock G off their high horse the world's richest man has a shot.
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There's already a guide here for obtaining permanent root using VISIONary, but some folks in #G2ROOT are having issues with the way that VISIONary modifies parititons. Using rage directly is a bit cleaner, since you know exactly what it's going to touch at each step of the way. I did NOT come up with any of this on my own, I'm building completely off of work that others have done. I'm going to post this, and then clean up the formatting as I go, so it will look a bit messy at first.
These are modified instructions based on the ones posted at http://bit.ly/g2root that use Visionary. A number of people have run into issues with the way that Visionary juggles around temporary partitions, and using the original root exploit is a much easier, and cleaner method for achieving permanent root. This tutorial will walk you through the rooting process by first achieving temporary root, and moving on to permanent root.
Visionary disabled at boot or uninstalled completely
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vision-combined-root.zip (Attached to this post, OR these two files: ) - http://www.4shared.com/file/EmcyasYz/vision-combined-root.html
G2TempRoot.zip (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797042) NOTE: only download the files! Don't follow these instructions yet
vision-perm-root.zip (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965) NOTE: again, just download the files from the thread.
In the commands to run below, $ or # represent the prompt and should NOT be entered as part of the commands.
Visionary has caused filesystem corruption for some users during the rooting process. Before attempting the instructions below, make sure that you have "auto run on boot" turned OFF, and reboot your system. Since you will not need visionary anyway after this, you might as well just uninstall visionary and reboot NOW before doing anything.
Unzip the G2TempRoot files to a folder. From a cmd window or terminal, navigate to that folder and execute these commands:
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$ adb push Superuser.apk /sdcard/Superuser.apk
$ adb push rage /data/local/tmp/rage
$ adb push busybox /data/local/tmp/busybox
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Launch Terminal Emulator
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Launch Terminal Emulator, it Force Closes. Launch a second time, and you'll have a root shell
**NOTE**: in the original directions from the XDA thread, you are instructed to run the /data/local/tmp/root script here. DON'T do this
just yet. Leave the terminal window open.
unzip the vision-perm-root.zip and navigate to that folder. There will be four files. You will need to push two of these to your phone- hboot-eng.img, and one of the wpthis-[..].ko files.
If you HAVE applied the OTA update, push wpthis-OTA.ko.
If you HAVE NOT applied the OTA update, push wpthis-pre-OTA.ko.
$ adb push hboot-eng.img /data/local
$ adb push wpthis-OTA.ko /data/local
You should still have terminal emulator up, at a root prompt. Now run:
# insmod /data/local/wpthis-OTA.ko
You should see:
init_module 'wpthis-OTA.ko' failed (Function not implemented)
That means it worked. This next step is CRUCIAL. You must make sure that you are writing to the proper partition here or you could brick your phone. To be absolutely clear- the partition is mmcblk(zero)p(one)(eight)
dd if=/data/local/hboot-eng.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
You should see some messages indicating that it was written. Next, run:
# /data/local/tmp/root
This will lock in root, and give you 'su' access in the future. Next, run:
# sync
Now wait at least a minute, just to be safe. After waiting, reboot your phone using the power button. After it finishes starting up, launch the terminal emulator, and type 'su'. You should get the prompt asking you to grant permissions. If you got the prompt, congratulations! You have permanent root!
i was going to attempt to root my G2 but Apparently there is new way of Rooting Using Gfree i believe its called can you post a tutorial for that? apparently people are seeing less problems with it...
no apparently this is still the old version because i read nothing about the Gfree way of doing it in the post LOL
im also looking for a tutorial on getting a custom recovery on the G2 to flash custom roms, LOL im just really paranoid with this phone it costed me an arm and a leg and now im a amputee
LOL nice thats always good, i once too apart my dads computer, didnt think i'd live to see another day LOL, and that was just to put more ram in it for XP LOL, let me know maybe ill try it on my girlfriends First LOL
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