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It's Hard to Make Predictions, Especially About the Future
The new book Future Babble explains why dart-throwing monkeys are better at predicting the future than most pundits.
The price of oil will soar to $200 per barrel. A bioterror attack will occur before 2013. Rising food prices could spark riots in Britain. The Arctic Ocean will be ice-free by 2015. Home prices will not recover this year. But who cares about any of those predictions: The world will end in 2012.
The media abound with confident predictions. Everywhere we turn, we find an expert declaiming on some future trend, concerning nearly every activity. Should we pay much attention? No, says journalist Dan Gardner in his wonderfully perspicacious new book, Future Babble: Why Expert Predictions Are Next to Worthless, And You Can Do Better. Gardner is previously the author of The Science of Fear: Why We Fear the Things We Shouldn't—and Put Ourselves in Greater Danger.
In Future Babble, Gardner acknowledges his debt to political scientist Phililp Tetlock, who set up a 20-year experiment in which he enrolled nearly 300 experts in politics. Tetlock then solicited thousands of predictions about the fates of scores of countries and later checked how well they did. Not so well. Tetlock concluded that most of his experts would have been beaten by "a dart-throwing chimpanzee." Tetlock found that the experts wearing rose-tinted glasses "assigned probabilities of 65 percent to rosy scenarios that materialized only 15 percent of the time." Doomsters did even worse: "They assigned probabilities of 70 percent to bleak scenarios that materialized only 12 percent of the time."
In this excellent book, Gardner romps through the past 40 years of failed predictions on economics, energy, environment, politics, and so much more. Remember back in 1990 when Japan would rule the world? MIT economist Lester Thurow declared, "If one looks at the last 20 years, Japan would have to be considered the betting favorite to win the economic honors of owning the 21st century." Thurow was far from alone. Back in 1992, George Friedman, now CEO of the geopolitical consultancy Stratfor, predicted The Coming War With Japan. Twenty years later, for those hungering for more predictive insights from Friedman, he has recently published, The Next 100 Years: A Forecast for the 21st Century.
As oil prices ascend once again, naturally many predict that the end of oil is nigh. Back in 1980, Gardner reminds us, The New York Times confidently declared, "There should be no such thing as optimism about energy for the foreseeable future. What is certain is that the price of oil will go up and up, at home as well as abroad." By 1986 oil prices had fallen to around $10 per barrel. On the accuracy of oil price predictions, Gardner cites U.S. Foreign Service Officer James Akins, who said: "Oil experts, economists, and government officials who have attempted in recent years to predict the future demand and prices of oil have had only marginally better success than those who foretell the advent of earthquakes or the second coming of the Messiah."
Akins' observation was made in 1973 and it's as true today as it was then. Consider the 2008 claim made by analysts at the investment bank Goldman Sachs that oil prices could surge beyond $200 per barrel in as little as six months. In fact, in as little as six months, the price of petroleum had fallen to $34 per barrel.
When it comes to prophets Gardner prefers foxes to hedgehogs. This is a distinction used by Tetlock, which was made famous by political philosopher Isaiah Berlin (who himself adopted an observation by ancient Greek poet Archilochus): "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing."
Foxes are intellectual omnivores obtaining disparate information where they can. Hedgehogs in contrast fit all information into one central grand scheme that explains the operation of the world. "Hedgehogs are big-idea thinkers in love with grand theories: libertarianism, Marxism, environmentalism, etc.," says Tetlock. "Their self-confidence can be infectious."
As Gardner shows, foxes are a bit better at predicting the future than are hedgehogs. For example, environmentalist Paul Ehrlich is a perfect hedgehog. For more than four decades, he has maintained that everything important about the world can be explained by population trends. Back in 1968, Ehrlich notoriously predicted in The Population Bomb, "The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. At this late date nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world death rate…."
The famines didn't happen. And Gardner notes that the world death rate was 13 per 1,000 when Ehrlich wrote his book. Every decade since it has fallen and is now 9 per 1,000 people. "In two lengthy interviews, Ehrlich admitted to making not a single major error in the popular works he published in the late 1960s and early 1970s," observes Gardner. It is almost not too much to say that Ehrlich has never been right about anything that he has predicted.
And yet failed prophets like Ehrlich are almost never punished. In fact, pundits like George Friedman continue to be quoted by journalists, invited to appear on TV talk shows, and hired by corporate executives eager to see what the tea leaves say about the future. When caught, pundits emit squid-ink clouds of obfuscation harrumphing that they got the timeframe wrong, it almost happened, or an unpredictable exogenous shock derailed the forecast. In any case, Gardner reveals the recipe for achieving success as a pundit: "Be simple, clear, and confident. Be extreme. Be a good storyteller. Think and talk like a hedgehog."
Besides making fun of the failures of the prognosticating class, Gardner also explains why so many of us keep falling for false prophesy: Humans beings hate uncertainty. Gardner offers myriad insights from research in cognitive psychology and behavioral economics that explains how and why we succumb to our desires for certainty. "Whether sunny or bleak, convictions about the future satisfy the hunger for certainty," writes Gardner. "We want to believe. And so we do."
In the end, I am tempted to adopt English soccer player Paul Gascoigne's pledge: "I never make predictions and I never will."
Science Correspondent Ronald Bailey is author of Liberation Biology: The Scientific and Moral Case for the Biotech Revolution (Prometheus Books).
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I'm Curious Ron, does Gardner bring up the bet between Ehrlich and Julian Simon?
(In 1980 Simon sold Ehrlich (on credit) ten year futures on five metals of Ehrlich's choosing. The total price was $1,000. In 1990 Ehrlich had to pay Simon $600, because the metals had gone down in price.)
That should be enough for anyone to show that Ehrlich is to be ignored.
Also, here I am again marveling at the Ron "Super Realist-Skeptic" Bailey sized up against the Ron "Global warming is coming so let's figure out a government solution" Bailey.
An enigma wrapped in a paradox.....or something.
Great point!
You can believe that AGW is happening while not believing in government "solutions" to it.
Tman & realist: Thinking like a fox?
Otto: Correct.
Ok Ron, what's your "non-government solution"?
This is the "we can do better" I was talking about the other day.
My inner fox tells me to ignore AGW. Heard it all before...
You're thinking like a hedgehog, you want one big solution. Maybe a handful of smaller solutions will turn out to be better. Or maybe solutions will emerge without us having to explicitly adopt any. Or perhaps there really isn't a problem or not a big as you think.
You're implying a false dichotomy, that are choices are between a big one-size-fits-all government solution, or a big one-size-fits-all private solution. Sometimes the world can get by without a big wise man up on top.
p.s. My money is on the unplanned emergent solutions.
Also, I linked this in other threads before, but this is a good post to link to John McCarthy, Professor Emeritus of Computer Science at Stanford University's page-
This Web page and its satellites are aimed at showing that human material progress is desirable and sustainable. People have worried about many problems. These pages discuss energy in general, nuclear energy, solar energy, food supply, population, fresh water supply, forests and wood supply, global engineering, pollution, biodiversity, various menaces to human survival, the role of ideology in discussing these matters, useful references.
Here's the money quote from his page: "He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense."
Actually, most really bad predictions come from looking at just a few numbers and extrapolating them indefinitely.
Usually, there are confounding factors which need to be applied, but it makes better press to say "At the rate house prices are falling, US homes will be worth less than $10,000 in 20 years."
At the rate your child is growing he will be 20 feet tall as an adult (and still growing!)
That's true.
Just because something is happening this way now doesn't mean that it won't change (and quite possible must change, because the laws of nature (in the child case, human biology) require it).
The other big mistake is thinking that everything is planned. Most of the huge changes throughout history were the result of accidents or emergent orders.
McCarthy got an opinion on expotential arithmetic? Kind of sounds un-american.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the expotential function." Albert Bartlett, Professor Emeritus, University of Colorado.
To be fair, Dr. Bartlett wrote a piece in 1998 titled 'The massive movement to marginalize the modern malthusian message (The Social Contract, Vol. 8, No. 3, pgs. 239-251). I am unfamiliar with Malthus' work but realize it is threaded within the conversation this book protends.
What in the 21st century, is, and will always be considered finite?
Interesting that he specifically included libertarianism in the "hedgehog" mentality. Are we so wrapped up in our own grand theory of the universe that we can't see the forest through the trees?
Certainly vulgar libertarianism, at least, can get monomaniacal and fail to recognize that things called "privatization" by the political class can be harmful and so on.
Generally, to the extent we predict miserable, abject failure of government and to the extent we
Hey! I try to be as vulgar as a libertarian can get.
I certainly am. I struggle with this all the time. Sometimes I feel like the James Hetfield parody - GOVERNMENT BAD, FREE ENTERPRISE (and beer) GOOD!!!
Yes, we are that wrapped up. Whenever there is a tax increase we predict doom. Whenever there is a tax cut we predict a boom. Yet it never happens in either case. Where is that Great Depression II we were promised because of TARP? Where is the Weimer style hyperinflation because of the Stimulus?
And yet failed prophets like Ehrlich are almost never punished
In fact, they inspire people like Roland Emmerich to make terrible movies, so in the end, we are the ones being punished.
The world will end
in 2012Oct 21st. -
The article says May 21st! Oh noes! Only a month and a half left!
And this pretty much explains why you should never listen to pundits. -
That article is amazingly useful. Thank you.
I find that cracked.com has a suprisingly abundant amount of useful articles. And non useful articles that are just awesome.
I find that cracked.com has a suprisingly abundant amount of useful articles. And non useful articles that are just awesome.
I remember finding their 'Top 5 Bugs that shouldn't exist' and being entranced such horrors were real.
In any case, Gardner reveals the recipe for achieving success as a pundit: "Be simple, clear, and confident. Be extreme. Be a good storyteller. Think and talk like a hedgehog."
Would it be possible to affect this attitude while taking a more epistemically humble position? If it's just a matter of using short, punchy sentences, and not stuttering, why couldn't you say something like, "Anyone who tells you they can predict the price of oil in five years is either a moron or a charlatan. If you believe them, you are either a sucker or a child." [Then make a short term prediction for six months on something relatively simpler; e.g. the federal budget will continue to be in massive deficit because the American People are what's technically known as "Greedy Morons."]
/my wet dream
I love failed predictions
"We will never make a 32 bit operating system." Bill Gates -
If we're going for Gates and irony, I prefer the regular predictions from Microsoft that the next edition of Windows® will be "virtually bug-free and highly secure."
'Course, unlike Erlich, nobody takes it seriously.
Don't forget "who would ever need more than 640K of RAM"*.
* Gates never actually said this.
Over 640,000 memories of random accesses is a whole lot of strange.
Not Gates. Chamberlain.
There's a lot of doozies out of Redmond. But in the past ten years, this one takes the biggest cake of them all:
30. "The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to no one in particular?" — Associates of David Sarnoff responding to the latter's call for investment in the radio in 1921.
They were lucky to not have had you tube-it makes it worse
Way off topic, but can someone at reason respond to this facebook wall-hogging Vanity Fair article: http://www.vanityfair.com/soci.....ent-201105 THX
I agree. The Stiglitz article raises a perspective that many around me share and I have a hard time completely discounting. I'm sure there's a good counter-argument, I'd like to read it.
That old piece of Marxist propaganda has been trotted out every few years or so for as long as there's been commie sycophants in newsrooms. I usually see it whenever the economy shits the bed and the numbers presented, while often accurate, are cherry picked and shown in a way to make it seem like a peoples revolution will be lighting up the pitchforks by the next presidency.
My favorite counter to "the top 1% own such and such %" is to simply inform the closet commie and their biased bullshit is that, since WWII, on average the top 1% here in the U.S. pays about a little under 50% of the taxes collected.
Liberal Assholes who demand that the rich be treated the same as the poor are usually quick to shut the fuck up when they realize how much more the "poor" would have to start coughing up to make things even.
Putrid. Wealth is not a zero-sum game. The "rich" getting richer or owning a greater percentage of wealth doesn't affect me at all, unless, of course, one of them hires me to work for them.
Intuitively, I think we all know this.
Bill Gates might be worth a billion dollars, or two, or ten, and all that really matter to me is the money in MY accounts.
Its worth noting the states with the grossest disparities between the unwashed masses and the pampered elite are decidedly 'blue' states run by blue team all-stars.
Think Henry Waxman hitting the beach in Santa Monica or Nancy Pelosi sipping wine in Sonoma. Mikey Bloomberg dreaming of gunning down smokers for their own good in his undoubtedly tony NYC pad (I know Gracy Mansion wasn't good enough for Mikey).
And these folks are the ones fighting for the 'little guy' and embrace shit in that Vanity Fair article as their animating ideology.
Fuck them.
The top 1 percent rarely serve in the military—the reality is that the "all-volunteer" army does not pay enough to attract their sons and daughters, and patriotism goes only so far.
I have no idea how Stiglitz could come up with the data to make that claim. Does the army ask recruits how much money their parents make?
They probably do ask for parents' address, which is how Heritage was able to figure out neighborhood income of enlisted recruits, and conclude that 3.46% of them come from neighborhoods with median family income >$100k.Plus, the wealthiest class feels no pinch from higher taxes when the nation goes to war: borrowed money will pay for all that.
Aside from the fact that the military constitutes less than a fourth of the federal budget, and the fact that the top 1% presumably know that borrowed money has to be paid back, that's an excellent point.
Think Henry Waxman hitting the beach in Santa Monica
Ew. No.
"The new book Future Babble explains why dart-throwing monkeys are better at predicting the future than most pundits."
Who is this book aimed at? If you didn't know this you probably can't read! -
It's not hard to make predictions....just accurate ones.
That's what she said.
And if it literally was what she said, it was followed up with 'Were you listening to me?'
Prediction: Short sell wheat. It's what Nightly Business Report told me to do a couple of days ago because of China, its economic policies to suppress inflation and its reserve wheat crop, blah, blah, herp derp.
9 out of 10 people don't understand that 90% of them don't understand probability.
It's Hard to Make Predictions, Especially About the Future
I suppose I should stick to making predictions about the past.
The problem with predicting the past is that it keeps changing according to the current political narrative.
It's sad that someone even needed to write a book to demonstrate this. Sad because millions of people believe that (a) a small number of people are actually smart enough to make accurate predictions over great lengths of time in systems featuring countless interacting and immeasurable variables, and (b) those people aren't using this knowledge to make billions in equities trades, but are instead using it to sell badly written books.
But I want to be retooled for the jobs of the future!
Why do you hate chimps?
BTW, Ron, that's a White-faced Capuchin from Central America. I hated that movie Outbreak, remember when diseases like Ebola were going to kill everyone in the 90s. Outbreak also tried to pass off a new-World monkey in the Old World. Funny enough, that monkey was the monkey on Friends and also was the Angel's rally monkey. Said monkey should have formed the Monkey Actors Guild. Probably would have been the first monkey union President.
There would probably be much less shit being thrown around by them than in the Screen Actors Guild...
what about the Film Actors Guild?
I almost forgot those times. Now that was a fun scare.
It's kind of funny when "the culture," via the news media, "discovers" something like Ebola. There's all this chattering and gesturing and excitement, like a troop of monkeys that just spotted a snake. Then after a while the new "threat" gets processed somehow, people lose interest, and they move on to the next unpleasant subject that catches their attention. I'm not sure if it's just human nature - always curious and vigilant - or if the news organizations gin up these crises as a reliable way to keep people consuming their product.
Similar pop-threats:
Global Warming
Global Cooling
Nuclear Winter
The Population Bomb
Killer Asteroids
Satanic Cults
Recovered Memory Child Abuse
Red Dye No. 2
Sick Building Syndrome
Genetically Engineered Food
Vaccines Cause AutismWhat's the latest thing I should be panicking about?
The new book Future Babble explains why dart-throwing monkeys are better at predicting the future than most pundits....And yet failed prophets like Ehrlich are almost never punished.
Monkeys have an incentive to predict more cautiously. Unlike humans, they face the constant danger of being spanked.
Many predictions about lots of things are wrong, but there are still many accurate ones as well.
Peter Shiff did predict a long, nasty recession when hardly anyone else did, and he was correct.
DG: Yes Schiff did. But as Gardner points out Schiff also made a whole bunch of other predictions that didn't come true. This illustrates the point that people gladly take credit for predictive "hits" while passing over in silence their "misses." In addition, we spectators remember "hits" far more readily than we remember the failed predictions. Pundits know this and take advantage of it.
It's kind of like the way we look at batters in a baseball game. You get three strikeouts, then hit a game winning homer in the 9th inning.
When you are interviewed, you don't talk about the three strikeouts, only the homer.
No one has batted 400 since Ted Williams. Today that would be considered amazing, even though you miss 60% of the time.
Too bad there isn't an "Earned Prognostication Average" for pundits.
We could also add to the list the ones made by Georges Colente http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Celente and comparing them and searching for common points.
Before I read the article, let me just mention that I, and many people like me, were predicting the market bubble correction around 2005-2006.
Predicting a volcano is going to blow isn't exactly rocket surgery when your standing balls deep in lava.
Back in 1999, you guys at Reason were asking for books that made terrible predictions. There may have even been a prize involve. I had and still have a copy of Omni magazine's Future Almanac from I believe 1980 (too lazy at this hour to even thumb through it). I was tempted to send it in but I couldn't part with it. I just had to know if Singapore was going to be underwater in just a few more years due to global warming and if my McDonald's hamburger was really going to cost fifteen bucks.
in adjusted for inflation dollars $15 for a McDo's burger wouldn't be all that of a bad deal.
They were relying on a rather simple minded linear extrapolation of pricing to get that answer. Keynesians, for one, when critiquing the thinking behind the argument the editors make will point to the phenomenon of price equilibrium. Prices rise, wages rise, and it all evens out in their estimation. No, I'm not a Keynesian and they ignore the fact that it is not a true equilibrium that occurs. The phenomenon is not an evenly balanced shift across the market but effects some actors positively at the expense of others, nor is it distributed to the point of mutual benefit (funny it happens to be the favorite economic model of liberal democrats).
However, there is some rudimentary truth to it. As a percentage of the mean distribution of income the price of a Big Mac is cheaper than in 1980 as a percentage of your yearly take home.
I would not want to be a newly minted high school graduate looking to finance his way through college at this time, though. The credit market is where we see that inflation as having dramatically occurred to the point it can rightfully be called hyperinflation. Price of fast food not so much (yet).
Two weeks back I bought the new apple wood bacon chicken sandwich from Wendy's (when I need protein on the go between long distant stops the only thing I care about is if it is palatable and whether or not it will kill me). It was five bucks and some change. At first I considered it a rip off, but the fact was that the thing was huge. I got two meals out of it, so price wise I paid slightly less for it than its equivalent from 1990.
It is also likely that continuing gains in market efficiency are the only factors keeping that price reasonable.
The bar tender says, "Sorry, we don't serve your kind here."
Two time-travelers walk into a bar.
I just read the first chapter of this book free on my Kindle, a device Douglas Adams accidentally predicted when he conceived of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, easily the most popular and profitable book ever to come from the publishing houses of Ursa Minor.
How is the flying technique coming along? I think with some steady practice I can completely miss the ground one of these days.
One doomsayer who was predicting depression right before the internet-dot com boom was NTU founder James Dale Davidson.
He's still predicting it:
and he still scares the hell out of me!
'It's Hard to Make Predictions, Especially About the Future'
Sure but we go as the world go, if they lifestyle goes high then everything will go high. We can picture how it will be depending on how things are. -
Thanks for sharing, Ron. Wrapping up Sowell's excellent "Economic Facts and Fallacies" and needed some new Kindle nonfic.
I predict that the wife will not give me oral satisfaction tonight. Sadly, I am 100% sure that I am 100% correct with my prediction. See how easy this prediction stuff can be.
This is fun....
Now Will They Listen to Dr. Ravi Batra? He's predicted 22 of the last 3 recessions.
22 of the last three? Is that meant as joke or is that a typo?
I knew you were going to write that.
I remember Marxian thinkers predicting communist revolution around the globe after a terrible war occurred. World War I came and skull-fucked humanity. No communist revolution (Russian Empire doesn't count - it was just three gold-plated palaces and endless fields). That was funny.
Also, it was hilarious when Lyndon Johnson predicted his Great Society horseshit would work. Lol. And Roosevelt with his New Deal. LOL.
Yeah, funny times. Predictions really ARE hard to make.
I think the hedgehog principle is terribly misused here. The fox is actually the one who tries to game the system and the hedgehog just sharpens his spikes. The hedgehog finds that one thing he's good at and gets behind it.
The point is that the hedgehog has to be GREAT at something whereas the fox is just good at a lot of things.
In the original fable, it's a cat and a fox. The fox knows many tricks to escape from dogs. The cat knows one. A pack of hunting dogs comes along. The fox tries all his tricks but the dogs catch him anyway. The cat does his one reliable trick - climbing a tree - and escapes.
It's may be useful to classify thinkers as foxes or hedgehogs. However, these books and articles seem to reverse the moral of the original story by favoring the fox's way over the cat/hedgehog's.
I think the hedgehog principle is terribly misused here. The fox is actually the one who tries to game the system and the hedgehog just sharpens his spikes. The hedgehog finds that one thing he's good at and gets behind it.
All hedgehogs are contraian douchebags, all foxes are incorrigeble
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I think we should not rely purely on the predictions from other people. Rather, we should be putting our best foot forward to everything that we do. Who knows, if these predictions are really true, then at least we know we did something in preparation for them. If you want to discuss this notion with me, visit at http://ithinkrevolution.com.
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This movie has some nike sb skunk dunks for sale of the same flaws I saw in another attempt at a faithful adaptation of a work of fantastic literature long thought unfilmable, Zach Snyder's 2009 version of Watchmen...That is, it kobe 7 for sale struck me as a series of filmed recreations of scenes from the famous novel
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Great point.
Also, it was hilarious when Lyndon Johnson predicted his Great Society horseshit would work. Lol. And Roosevelt with his New Deal.


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In the morning of Wednesday, May 29, a 17-year-old female student tried to enter her school on Amsterdam Avenue with an E-cigarette. As she passed through the scanners at the entrance, she was told to stop by to see the school safety agent, a 52-year-old woman. The girl refused and grabbed the safety agent by the collar. The agent tried to place the girl under arrest, but the girl resisted and the agent broke her pinkie finger in the scuffle. The agent was taken to the hospital, and the girl was arrested on May 29 and charged with felonious assault on a peace officer.
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LAWRENCE, Kan.—William Poczekaj II, a senior from Maple Park, is on the spring 2011 honor roll in the School of Engineering at the University of Kansas.
He is the son of William and Lori Poczekaj of Maple Park. He is a graduate of Kaneland High School.
More than 4,400 undergraduate students at KU earned honor roll distinction for the spring 2011 semester.
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I think they look great! These flight attendants agreed to wear a uniform when they were hired and the wig is part of the uniform. Check out some of the flight attendants nowadays. They look absolutely horrible. Unkept hair, the uniforms don't seem freshly laundered and pressed, everyone has different shoes, awful glasses, and no make-up. It is obvious there is no effort made to make themselves look any better. The standard is so low nowadays, that the airlines need to do something. Some airlines like Delta give them different options of uniforms to mix and match and it ends up appearing as though there is no cohesiveness. Hard to tell they're even wearing mandated clothing. Every employer that has employees dealing with the public is concerned about appearance, as well they should be. Kudos to this airline! Let the hate replies begin!


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STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA -- June 30, 2010
Yesterday, I went to a Fedex Kinko's Office here in Stockton, California, Fedex Office 5125, to have some documents faxed.
This particular site has a very rude and unhappy sales clerk; the store was close to empty and there was only one customer besides me in front of her computer. The store was surprisingly too quiet and there was no greeting whatsoever....not even "May I help you?" from any of the 3 employees who all appeared stoic and detached from their surroundings!
My concern as a customer is this: After this sales clerk fed my documents into the fax machine, she did not bother to say anything and failed, as a courtesy to a customer, to let me know that there is some waiting time involved until transmission is verified. She proceeded to go back to her computer and did not bother to look at me or anywhere which made her appear like a robot.
After waiting for a few minutes, I asked, "Is there another cashier who can help me so I can pay what is due?" This sales clerk replied in a very stern and unfriendly tone, "There is a wait time and you can go somewhere else if you want to go!!"
Her bad behavior is completely unacceptable. Evidently, her personal issues should not be brought into the work place. She is young and this type of behavior may become unmanageable for her and will surely make a bad impact on her social life.
I suggest that the company puts in more effort, emphasis, and training of employees about the utmost importance of customer relations.
However, the store manager should be commended for exhibiting excellent customer relations. She re-faxed all 4 documents (was not done correctly by the sales clerk) and apologized for my unpleasant experience and promised to advise the sales clerk. The manager's demeanor should be mirrored by all your employees. Her facial expressions and mode of speaking reflected a satisfied and happy manager of Fedex Kinko's!
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Really well written review.
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You must watch a skit from Dave Chappelle's show. The skit is set in a store called "Popcopy" and it sounds like what you experienced!
The manager sounds like he or she has great customer service, but maybe not great management skills. Good review, very helpful!
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I agree with the others. This is a well-written complaint. Hopefully, the employee was just having an off day and the manager will work to help her improve her customer service skills.
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Public Policy Implications of Liability Regimes for Injuries Caused by Persons with Alzheimer's DiseaseEdward P. RichardsLouisiana State University, Baton Rouge - Paul M. Hebert Law Center Georgia Law Review, Vol. 35, P. 35, 2001 Abstract: People in the United States and the developed world are living longer than ever before. While gains in the average life expectancy have been modest, these greatly underestimate the growth of the elderly population. Most of this elderly population is healthier than comparable populations in the past and they actively participate in everyday life much more than people of comparable age in decades past. The amelioration of many of the diseases of age has accentuated the problems of the chronic diseases for which there are no effective treatments. Perhaps the most devastating of these is Alzheimer's disease, a progressive dementia leading to incapacity and death. This article discusses the public policy implications of tort liability rules for persons with Alzheimer's disease (PWD) who injure their caregivers or member of the general public, and the potential liability of their caregivers for not preventing injuries to the general public. The analysis is rooted in preventive law and therapeutic jurisprudence concerns, rather than advocacy for either PWDs or their victims. The objective is to identify the proper balance between tort liability, immunity, and non-tort approaches such as public health reporting and management strategies. This recognizes that expanding liability will increase the pressure on insurers and families to limit freedom of PWDs, while limits on liability may leave deserving persons uncompensated and create a public backlash that will drive unnecessarily broad or harsh restrictions of PWDs. Most troublingly, the tort doctrine that once a duty is assumed, it must be carried out non-negligently, can create perverse incentives: family caregivers may have no legal duty to prevent PWDs under their care to stop driving, but become liability for tying to stop them and not succeeding. This article reviews the history of the applicable doctrines and the current trends, but recognizes that jurisdictions vary widely and that it is uncertain which approach, if any in current use, is the best. The author proposes modifying the tort law regime with public health and preventive law strategies. Most importantly, the author wants to encourage further study of these problems and the collection and analysis of empirical information on the impact of tort law on the lives of PWDs, their caregivers, and the people they interact with in society. Number of Pages in PDF File: 36 JEL Classification: K13, K32, K42 Accepted Paper SeriesDate posted: May 16, 2001Suggested CitationContact Information
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FF user on Linux here. I haven't had any crash issues, but I think I tend to have less tabs open than the average tech user (half a dozen tops).
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Cooper: Bergen Catholic, IHA capture Bergen County swimming championships
"Liam was just swimming well all day, so it was kind of a gut feeling to switch them around," Schlereth said.
The gambit worked. Om touched the wall with a three-second advantage for Kelly, who was able to hold off Li.
"I just saw John had a great split, so I just took off and I knew I had to get out fast," said Kelly, a New Milford resident. "I saw as I was going into my second 50, as I was making my first stroke I saw [Li] doing his turn and knew I had to step up."
Ives tipped his cap to the Crusaders and said he wasn't disappointed.
"We figured at best, at best, we could go 3:16," said Ives, whose team swam the 400 in 3:15.37. "Every single individual went a lifetime best in that relay. I can't complain about that. We did a lot of good things today and we ran into a really, really good Bergen Catholic team."
Schlereth became the first person in Bergen County to lead two teams to county championships on the same day. The Crusaders dragged him in the pool for a celebratory splash, even though he didn't have a change of clothes for the ride home.
The Crusaders will be favorites next year to repeat. Schlereth pointed out that every kid who scored points for BC on Saturday returns. On the girls side next year, IHA certainly will be expected to win its 15th county in a row, but in one of the more interesting developments Saturday, the Blue Eagles did not dominate the meet like they have in years past. They saw their streak of winning every relay race at the county meet end at 39 in a row, and it's obvious that the other teams in Bergen County have gotten stronger.
"I think the talent level throughout the county has improved tremendously," said Schlereth speaking about the girls. "Just look at the results from the past seasons, it's unbelievable how much more competitive things have gotten. Also there are more teams, and that spreads it out more. We don't take anything for granted."


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We've declared April 28, 2012 as the second annual Stack Overflow Meetup Day! Last year over 2,000 of you got involved. It was amazing! This year, we're calling on the entire Stack Exchange tech community* to double that number. We're reaching out to every hacker, programmer and designer in the Stack Exchange family to join their local Stack Overflow Meetup on April 28th.
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Posted by Lars D April 22, 2012We're a little more than two weeks away from our second annual Meetup Everywhere! I hope everyone's planning is going well. Just wanted to remind everyone that I'll be sending a little extra something to the largest meetup groups, and I'll be contacting organizers of those groups in the next couple days - so help us get the word out, and you might receive a care package from Stack Exchange!
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suseROCKs | Note to others: That's "a 500 error" not "500 errors." :-P |
Cymage | suseROCKs : hmmm, makes me wonder if the vhosts are part of the problem |
suseROCKs | Cymage: according to documentation, mod_status is a server-wide directive, not applied to just vhosts. |
twkm | read your error log. |
suseROCKs | twkm: it doesn't show up anything in the error logs |
twkm | then either you did something very bad (touched the error log while apache had it open) or very stupid (turned off error logging). |
twkm | or perhaps you have multiple error logs and you aren't looking at the right one. |
suseROCKs | twkm: You're making some rather gross assumptions :-) |
suseROCKs | I haven't touched the error log, It does work and I get error messages on other unrelated things which I've resolved |
suseROCKs | I believe the problem has to do with properly enabling ExtendedStatus |
twkm | i believe a 500 response that isn't logged is the prime problem. |
Action: AlbertoP sends Geeko to help suseROCKs | |
suseROCKs | the syntax listed on Apache's website is quite different from that in our /etc/sysconfig/apache2 file |
twkm | sysconfig is sourced by a shell script, it isn't what apache uses itself. |
twkm | stuff under /etc/apache2/, in .conf files at least, is what apache uses, and those are influenced by the init script which is influenced by the sysconfig file. |
twkm | but in any case, if the log level is low enough for *any* other errors to be recorded, it should also be low enough for a 500. well, anyway, you probably aren't getting your status because that .conf file isn't actually being referenced, even though the module is being loaded. |
AlbertoP | maybe we should give hints IF we know them, or be silent ;-) |
twkm | i'll assume that was aimed at me, even though i've provided hints. i'll probably also ignore something. |
suseROCKs | I don't think I'd want my log file recording 500 errors. That'd be insane |
twkm | *shrug* |
AlbertoP | twkm: well I know you're trying to help, but I also know it might be annoying for others to read the same hint many times (logs) ;-) |
twkm | thanks for finally being concrete. |
AlbertoP | just what I think, as always :) |
twkm | suseROCKs: sounds insane not to, since they are critical flaws in your configuration, but okay. since you have no log of the problem you'll probably have to manually trace the includes -- perhaps just manually edit /etc/apache2/sysconfig.d/include.conf, and pray a bit nothing else changes it. |
AlbertoP | just an info: on forums there is a thread about apache not loading modules |
AlbertoP | suseROCKs: here it explains how to set status stuff --> http://en.opensuse.org/Mirror_Setup_Howto |
suseROCKs | AlbertoP: link me pls. |
AlbertoP | search for apachestats |
Action: AlbertoP pats Geeko | |
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felipe__ | helo |
felipe__ | how can install amsn in opensuse 11.2? |
felipe__ | I have a tkimage library problem |
Chrysantine | felipe__: It's in the Packman repository. |
Chrysantine | felipe__: http://packman.links2linux.org/package/amsn |
bill | Problem with today's automatic updates of SuSe 11.1. Error message says: r8101-kmp-default-1.013.00_220.127.116.11_9.1-3.1.x86_64 is needed but not available. How can I get the update to complete successfully? |
Chrysantine | bill: Did you receive a kernel update today? |
samyak | twkm, just to update you on my hunting to have it all on HTTP... http://www.mediacollege.com/video/streaming/http.html |
samyak | twkm, sadly the http streaming is not meant for live streaming .. |
Chrysantine | samyak: What kind of live streaming do you want? |
samyak | live audio and video streaming .. |
samyak | I am currently using hosted account with Flash Media Server |
Chrysantine | samyak: Yes but you didn't specify what source. |
bitshuffler | bill: add the proper drivers:nic repo and be happy |
Chrysantine | samyak: For example a live stream can mean a webcam or a video grabber or a tv channel or. |
bitshuffler | bill: and 1.013.... is totally outdated so you might want to update all that stuff |
felipe__ | tks |
Chrysantine | samyak: Depending on what solution you wish there are some possible solutions for you, such a mpeg4ip (mp4live from it) and Darwin Streaming Server to do the actual RTSP serving. |
bill | Chrysantine: I do not believe I did, but I'm new enough with SuSe Linux that I am no sure. |
samyak | Chrysantine, We are using Sony PD77 video camera |
Chrysantine | samyak: Does it present itself as a Video4Linux device you can access? |
Chrysantine | bill: Sounds like you've added a repository where you installed those r8101 files but they haven't yet been updated to provide for the new kernel. (Or perhaps there is another repo that does) |
samyak | Chrysantine, but at the same time we will have webcam as well to be captured if we want to have mutiple location/views to broadcast .. |
samyak | Chrysantine, let me see and tell you |
Chrysantine | samyak: If you have a device that works as a V4L/2 device (/dev/video) you can use mp4live and dss to stream it to clients. |
bitshuffler | bill: Chrysantine again - you need to add the proper drivers:nic repo - the one you have it for 11.1 without updates so you have to add the _update one as well so you get packages for updated kernels |
bitshuffler | s/it/is/ |
Action: Chrysantine adds bitshuffler_is_a_knob repo. | |
Action: bitshuffler contains plenty of stuff ;P | |
samyak | Chrysantine, I would first try with my webcam for now ... |
samyak | I can see /dev/video0 dev on my opensuse |
Chrysantine | samyak: That's most likely your webcam then. Anyway, DSS is not 'free' as in 'free free' but 'free as in beer sorta kinda free'. |
samyak | Chrysantine, ohkk ...let me check out both the options ... |
Chrysantine | samyak: You might want to read up on .sdp files and how you can serve those to clients via Darwin Streaming Server. |
bill | Chrysantine: Sounds about right. System monitor says I have Release 121.1, Linux 2..27.7-9-default. To rephrase, you're saying that the updates need Linux 11.2, I have Linux 11.1, so the updates cannot resolve dependencies. Do I have to download all of Linux 11.2 and update from a DVD, or is there some incremental update method I can use? |
Chrysantine | samyak: Google has *lots* of help on that subject. mpeg4ip package which contains mp4live (the program that does the video capturing and compression, then streaming that via DSS) is available in the Packman repo. |
bitshuffler | bill: which part of "You need to add another repo that contains the r8101 package for the updated 11.1 kernel!" don't you get? |
Chrysantine | samyak: Alternatively you can use GStreamer to accomplish the same thing, grabbing the video, compressing it and then feeding that video to DSS which serves it to clients. |
samyak | Chrysantine, so I will anyway say goodbye to RTMP and FMS/Red5 with mp4live and/or DSS ? |
bitshuffler | bill: add http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/drivers:/nic/openSUSE_11.1_update/ and be happy. |
rip | does 11.2's new encryption feature include encrypted swap partition as well? Where can I go to find out more info. about 11.2's encryption feature? |
bitshuffler | rip: it's an encrypted lvm on which you can put swap as well |
Chrysantine | samyak: RTMP is proprietary stuff and I don't know if oneone has successfully reverse engineered it. |
twkm | adobe published their protocol. |
Chrysantine | Well that solved that problem, if anyone has actually developed a client/server for it. |
samyak | Red5 guys have at least come up with alternative to Flash Media Server |
twkm | dss is proprietary too, which was later published. it just has somewhat better uptake in the not-just-them world. |
samyak | Chrysantine, osflash.org/red5 , i guess they have reversed engineered it ... just FYI |
Chrysantine | samyak: Ah ok. We didn't have a need for such solution so we built our own hacky-tacky live streaming system. |
samyak | Chrysantine, how did you did it ? |
twkm | vlc? |
Chrysantine | samyak: We used gstreamer. |
samyak | I want people to see it in their browser ... |
samyak | does using gstreamer or vlc make it browser ready ? |
samyak | The reason flash in video streaming is so popular is that almost all have flash plugin installed |
samyak | I would check out all the options you guys have come up with |
samyak | though |
Chrysantine | samyak: Well we don't stream to browsers so.. our needs are different. |
Action: evilFunkyFingerz that's an interesting project that I'ed like to try | |
Vojtaeus | IMHO, You need plugin to be able to use VLC or MPlayer within browser... |
samyak | Chrysantine, I understand ... in my case I simply don't know what my user is ... |
samyak | Vojtaeus, and asking people to download plugin is not that easy |
bill | Chrysantine an bitshuffler: Sorry, I got behind in the message stream, and was answering an earlier message from Chrysantine. Remember, I don' know how things are done with Linux. So, I'll try your suggestions as well as I'm able and get back to you. |
Chrysantine | samyak: A quick Google suggests the Red5 is the most popular solution for live streaming on Linux. |
twkm | he needs to feed the red5 server. |
Chrysantine | bill: Well the bottom line is - you installed the r8101 driver from some repository. You should look at what the repository is. |
Chrysantine | twkm: Is Red5 merely a streaming server or does it do encoding/hinting? |
samyak | Chrysantine, yup, but what about feeding the data to Red5 from the place of live event ? That part is done by Flash Live Media Encoder which is not available for Linux |
bitshuffler | bill: no worries. Also you have to enable "refresh" for those repos since their content changes whenever I drop a new driver in it (e.g. the r8101 one got updated to 1.014 quite some time ago). |
cst | hi there |
Chrysantine | samyak: There are several tools which can encode files in the fly, mp4live is one such tools - even mencoder can encode into flash on the fly from various sources (even live input). gstreamer cannot (afaik) encode flash yet. |
Chrysantine | tools/tool. |
samyak | Chrysantine, mp4live will capture and encode and send it to FMS/Red5 ... that would be great ! |
Chrysantine | samyak: Unfortunately mp4live won't do for you because it doesn't encode flash. |
samyak | ahhh :( |
cst | Is the "widget on screensaver" supposed to work in kde 4.4 beta2 (opensuse 11.2 factory)? When I try to set up the widgets in the screen-saver interface all I see is an empty workspace with the background-image and an anloge clock - no means there to add any widgets |
Chrysantine | samyak: As the name suggests, it's great for serving H264 video however. |
samyak | Flash do have a h.264 support now ! |
twkm | ffmpeg can probably stream to the server. |
Chrysantine | That's quite likely. |
twkm | http://ffmpeg.org/ffserver-doc.html |
Chrysantine | Right, now to make some more coffee and install Slowaris in a VM. |
Action: jetscreamer disables coffemaker | |
Action: gyrfalcon steals coffee filters | |
Action: evilFunkyFingerz pounds jetscreamer and gyrfalcon | |
Action: jetscreamer takes sip of coffee | |
Action: jetscreamer #'s back | |
jetscreamer | i've been watching a lot of jet li, don't mess with me! |
Bitbuck | Happy Holidays everyone. |
evilFunkyFingerz | same to u |
Action: szal just found out that switching repos from KDE:43 to KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop eliminates some inconsistencies that may lead to orphaned pkgs on 'zypper up' | |
cst | you too Bit! |
Guest60123 | hi |
Guest60123 | ok |
phantom | now |
Guest7520 | way |
Guest7520 | logged out |
Guest7520 | whay |
loooool | hallllllllllllllo |
evilFunkyFingerz | !hello @ loooool |
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poorboywilly | Hi all, I'm trying to enable my compose key. I've seen instructions to change this in KDE system settings under "region & language", selecting "keyboard layout" and then the advanced tab. I currently have the option selected "disable keyboard layouts", so the advanced settings are unavailable. What are the implications if I "enable keyboard layouts"? |
bitshuffler | you "enable keyboard layouts"? |
poorboywilly | currently selected is "disable keyboard layouts", I have to "enable keyboard layouts" to get to the advanced settings, but what will this do? Anything I should know about? |
bitshuffler | no |
bitshuffler | in case the world suddenly stops to spin you can disable it again anyways |
ukwiz | after upgrading to 11.2, I seem to have lost my system sounds. Where are they configured? |
poorboywilly | I suppose that is true, but I like to keep my system lean and not use something if it isn't necessary |
poorboywilly | ukwiz: kde or gnome? |
rhorse | ukwiz: /usr/share/sounds look ok? |
ihuerti | Kde SC 4.4 Beta 2 Really rocks! perhaps i should not say this: but it feels really stable |
ukwiz | poorboywilly: on kde. |
ukwiz | rhorse: It is the configuring that is the problem. None of the system sounds happen |
Chrysantine | ukwiz: System sounds or sound in general? Amarok, smplayer etc? |
eviltoaster_3e | how do i read or write to the serial port? (USB to SERIAL - servo controller) |
ukwiz | Chrysantine: no problem with sounds in general |
Chrysantine | ukwiz: alt+f2 / multimedia and check what Notifications output device is set to |
twkm | eviltoaster_3e: as you would with "normal" serial ports, though the device names will be slightly different. |
eviltoaster_3e | twkm, i dont know how to do that, thats why i ask :) |
eviltoaster_3e | twkm, any sites i can read up on |
eviltoaster_3e | ? |
twkm | what are you trying to 'write" to the serial port? |
eviltoaster_3e | numbers |
rhorse | can you boot a kernel on a usb from a bootloader on an (IDE) drive? |
twkm | so, something is plugged into a usb serial dongle, and it reads numbers. thrilling. |
twkm | well, good luck. |
ukwiz | Chrysantine: I can test notifications there, but it doesn't seem to translate to anything such as system startup and shutdown |
eviltoaster_3e | twkm, servo controller controlls servos .... and thay need uc need numbers :P |
rhorse | do all bioses support? |
sekisushai | hello i've a prob with networking : i've a internet box : 192.168.0.254, a computer with two plugs : the first : 192.168.0.1 linked to the internet box, the second 192.168.1.1 that i would use to share the internet connection |
sekisushai | i've configure a dhcp server to give ip 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.254 to computer connecting to the plug 192.168.1.1 |
twkm | eviltoaster_3e: perhaps all you want is echo, as in ... echo 1234 > /dev/whatever |
sekisushai | i activate the ip forwading in network settings |
evilFunkyFingerz | sekisushai: Check your firewall |
sekisushai | when i plug a computer to 192.168.1.1 it can't access to internet |
sekisushai | firewall is disabled for the moment.. |
evilFunkyFingerz | sekisushai: Yast Firewall and put the internal network in the Internal Zone |
sekisushai | that's ok |
evilFunkyFingerz | sekisushai: Verify if ip_forward is enabled, by cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
sekisushai | return 1 |
twkm | sekisushai: for the yast masquerading configuration to work the firewall must be enabled. |
sekisushai | so it's ok |
sekisushai | it's now enabled |
evilFunkyFingerz | sekisushai: YOur fine now? |
sekisushai | now i configure dhcp server : |
evilFunkyFingerz | sekisushai: And another thing, you need DNS server |
sekisushai | card 192.168.1.1 (the free plug) |
evilFunkyFingerz | sekisushai: Or set it it to issue a real dns server ip |
sekisushai | ip dns i've took those which are in /etc/resolv.conf |
evilFunkyFingerz | sekisushai: Yes on the Router/Server and configure DHCP to issue those to the client |
sekisushai | gateway which ip to set ? 192.168.0.1 (plug which receive internet connection) or 192.168.1.1 (plug wich is free and available to share the connection) ? |
evilFunkyFingerz | sekisushai: Gateway ip should be set to an ip that doesn't conflict with the other card ip |
sekisushai | ok so i set a random ip but not 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 ? |
evilFunkyFingerz | sekisushai: Gateway = 18.104.22.168 --- eg. randome ip 192.168.1.2 and so on |
sekisushai | ok thanks it work now :) |
sekisushai | thank u a lot |
evilFunkyFingerz | sekisushai: no problem |
bill_ | Chrysantine, bitshuffler: Problem solved. I followed your general advice and updated all my registries using YaST/Software Repositories, than applied all updates using YaST Online Update. I'm still at release 11.1, and all updates were successfully applied. Thanks!, then used |
trevor | im using the live cd, but before i install i need to know two things about KDE |
trevor | first is there anyway to change the cursor to a more traditional mouse cursor rather than this obsidian version |
Vojtaeus | <trevor> In settings, of course |
trevor | is that in configure desktop?? sorry im coming from a couple years of Gnome use |
Chrysantine | trevor: alt+f2 and type mouse |
trevor | oh nice thanks |
Chrysantine | trevor: Learn to use alt+f2 (or remap it to something else) and you won't go back :P |
Vojtaeus | Yes! :-) |
Chrysantine | Bound it to cmd+space myself. |
trevor | also, does PPPoE work right away, in ubuntu, sabayon, and mandriva, their new iterations broke PPPoE for me |
Chrysantine | No idea about that one. |
trevor | omh just changed the mouse cursor and it is SO much better |


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Thanks to everyone who entered my holiday art contest at Intuition. It was very hard to choose just three winners, but here are the talented kids who each won a $100 gift card from Michaels:
Ashley Hunt's student Kaylee, from Plain City, Utah, won a Michaels gift card, too. Ashley said, "I'm a schoolteacher and I teach third grade. I use Kathy Barbro's Art Projects for Kids blog weekly to find ideas to implement quality art into my classroom. She has great ideas that are practical and easy to do."
Erica, a sixth-grade student of teacher Pamela Goosen in British Columbia, who told us, "The nutcracker art caught my eye as I thought it would be a great lesson on drawing and symmetry for my grade six students. The class enjoyed this project, and they turned out wonderfully!"
Stay tuned in to the Mom's Toolkit at Intuition as more great drawing tutorials will be posted soon!
Keili from Diamond Bar, California, whose art teacher, Wendy Wu, submitted her drawing. Wendy said, "I'm a contract based art instructor at Walnut Elementary School. I also teach at my studio and Keili is one of my students who loves art. The Nutcracker is one of my favorite lessons because the students learn about lines, shapes, and colors, and it only took one class session."


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The Record: Letters, Feb. 13, 2013
Marrying Rush Limbaugh words to the Catholic Church is a sad attempt to demonize Catholics and Catholic leaders. I am proud the church is fighting back.
Matthew Viola
River Vale, Feb. 8
No dysfunctionalCongress in 1863
Regarding "Hollywood, land of Lincoln" (Better Living, Page BL-1, Feb. 13):
The article said President Abraham Lincoln tried "to ram the anti-slavery 13th Amendment through a dysfunctional Congress." The 37th Congress, which Lincoln would have been contending with in early 1863, might have had a problem with the 13th Amendment. But it was anything but dysfunctional. Freed of encumbrances of obstructionist Democrats who had left with the secession of the South, the 37th was the most productive Congress in U.S. history.
Among its achievements were the Morrill Land Grant Colleges Act, the Homestead Act, the Pacific Railway Act, the National Banking Act and An Act to Establish a Department of Agriculture. Those pieces of legislation created the United States we have today. They would have been impossible in pre-Civil War days, when a truly dysfunctional Congress prevented the laws allowing the country to expand to the Pacific Ocean and to create the institutions that cemented us as a unified nation.
Jeanine Portelle
Nanuet, N.Y., Feb. 12
LG fight is notthem-or-us contest
Regarding Bergen County Executive Kathleen Donovan's "Bergen County needs LG project" (Opinion, Page O-2, Feb. 10):
Donovan argued in favor of a very large office building to be built by LG Electronics on its tract in Englewood Cliffs adjacent to land owned by the Palisades Interstate Park Commission. Donovan's main point was that objections to the project had been raised by people "from the other side of the river."
Donovan should lead the effort to find a compromise that will allow LG Electronics to have a splendid new corporate headquarters without doing visual harm to the adjacent landmark.
For more than a century, citizens on both sides of the Hudson River have joined together to preserve the Palisades. On many occasions, leadership in this worthy and successful effort came from Bergen County residents. This is not a them-or-us contest, not a contest between LG Electronics and people from "across the river," as Donovan implies.
A midrise building atop the Palisades would degrade the scene for everyone. A low-rise structure would reaffirm that wise conservation and astute business enterprise can indeed stand side by side for the benefit of all.
Robert O. Binnewies
Ashland, Ore. Feb. 12
The writer is author of "Palisades, 100,000 Acres in 100 Years," the centennial history of the Palisades Interstate Park.


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SIRTE, Libya — Dragged from hiding in a drainage pipe, a wounded Moammar Gadhafi raised his hands and begged revolutionary fighters: "Don't kill me, my sons." Within an hour, he was dead, but not before jubilant Libyans had vented decades of hatred by pulling the eccentric dictator's hair and parading his bloodied body on the hood of a truck.
The death Thursday of Gadhafi, two months after he was driven from power and into hiding, decisively buries the nearly 42-year regime that had turned the oil-rich country into an international pariah and his own personal fiefdom.
It also thrusts Libya into a new age in which its transitional leaders must overcome deep divisions and rebuild nearly all its institutions from scratch to achieve dreams of democracy.
"We have been waiting for this historic moment for a long time. Moammar Gadhafi has been killed," Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril said in the capital of Tripoli. "I would like to call on Libyans to put aside the grudges and only say one word, which is Libya, Libya, Libya."
President Barack Obama told the Libyan people: "You have won your revolution."
Although the U.S. briefly led the relentless NATO bombing campaign that sealed Gadhafi's fate, Washington later took a secondary role to its allies. Britain and France said they hoped that his death would lead to a more democratic Libya.
Other leaders have fallen in the Arab Spring uprisings, but the 69-year-old Gadhafi is the first to be killed. He was shot to death in his hometown of Sirte, where revolutionary fighters overwhelmed the last of his loyalist supporters Thursday after weeks of heavy battles.
Also killed in the city was one of his feared sons, Muatassim, while another son — one-time heir apparent Seif al-Islam — was wounded and captured. An AP reporter saw cigarette burns on Muatassim's body.
Bloody images of Gadhafi's last moments raised questions over how exactly he died after he was captured wounded, but alive. Video on Arab television stations showed a crowd of fighters shoving and pulling the goateed, balding Gadhafi, with blood splattered on his face and soaking his shirt.
Gadhafi struggled against them, stumbling and shouting as the fighters pushed him onto the hood of a pickup truck. One fighter held him down, pressing on his thigh with a pair of shoes in a show of contempt.
Fighters propped him on the hood as they drive for several moments, apparently to parade him around in victory.
"We want him alive. We want him alive," one man shouted before Gadhafi was dragged off the hood, some fighters pulling his hair, toward an ambulance.
Later video showed fighters rolling Gadhafi's lifeless body over on the pavement, stripped to the waist and a pool of blood under his head. His body was then paraded on a car through Misrata, a nearby city that suffered a brutal siege by regime forces during the eight-month civil war that eventually ousted Gadhafi. Crowds in the streets cheered, "The blood of martyrs will not go in vain."
Thunderous celebratory gunfire and cries of "God is great" rang out across Tripoli well past midnight, leaving the smell of sulfur in the air. People wrapped revolutionary flags around toddlers and flashed V for victory signs as they leaned out car windows. Martyrs' Square, the former Green Square from which Gadhafi made many defiant speeches, was packed with revelers.
In Sirte, the ecstatic former rebels celebrated the city's fall after weeks of fighting by firing endless rounds into the sky, pumping their guns, knives and even a meat cleaver in the air and singing the national anthem.
The outpouring of joy reflected the deep hatred of a leader who had brutally warped Libya with his idiosyncratic rule. After seizing power in a 1969 coup that toppled the monarchy, Gadhafi created a "revolutionary" system of "rule by the masses," which supposedly meant every citizen participated in government but really meant all power was in his hands. He wielded it erratically, often hanging anyone who plotted against him in public squares.
Abroad, Gadhafi posed as a Third World leader, while funding militants, terror groups and guerrilla armies. His regime was blamed in the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland and the downing of a French passenger get in Africa the following year, as well as the 1986 bombing of a German discotheque frequented by U.S. servicemen that killed three people.
The day began with revolutionary forces bearing down on the last of Gadhafi's heavily armed loyalists who in recent days had been squeezed into a block of buildings of about 700 square yards.
A large convoy of vehicles moved out of the buildings, and revolutionary forces moved to intercept it, said Fathi Bashagha, spokesman for the Misrata Military Council, which commanded the fighters who captured him. At 8:30 a.m., NATO warplanes struck the convoy, a hit that stopped it from escaping, according to French Defense Minister Gerard Longuet.
Fighters then clashed with loyalists in the convoy for three hours, with rocket-propelled grenades, anti-aircraft weapons and machine guns. Members of the convoy got out of the vehicles, Bashagha said.
Gadhafi and other supporters fled on foot, with fighters in pursuit, he said. A Gadhafi bodyguard captured as they ran away gave a similar account to Arab TV stations.
Gadhafi and several bodyguards took refuge in a drainage pipe under a highway nearby. After clashes ensued, Gadhafi emerged, telling the fighters outside, "What do you want? Don't kill me, my sons," according to Bashagha and Hassan Doua, a fighter who was among those who captured him.
Bashagha said Gadhafi died in the ambulance from wounds suffered during the clashes. Abdel-Jalil Abdel-Aziz, a doctor who accompanied the body in the ambulance during the 120-mile drive to Misrata, said Gadhafi died from two bullet wounds — to the head and chest.
A government account of Gadhafi's death said he was captured unharmed and later was mortally wounded in the crossfire from both sides.
Amnesty International urged the revolutionary fighters to give a complete report, saying it was essential to conduct "a full, independent and impartial inquiry to establish the circumstances of Col. Gadhafi's death."
The TV images of Gadhafi's bloodied body sent ripples across the Arab world and on social networks such as Twitter.
Many wondered whether a similar fate awaits Syria's Bashar Assad and Yemen's Ali Abdullah Saleh, two leaders clinging to power in the face of long-running Arab Spring uprisings. For the millions of Arabs yearning for freedom, democracy and new leadership, the death of one of the region's most brutal dictators will likely inspire and invigorate the movement for change.
As word spread of Gadhafi's death, jubilant Libyans poured into Tripoli's central Martyr's Square, chanting "Syria! Syria!" — urging the Syrian opposition on to victory.
"This will signal the death of the idea that Arab leaders are invincible," said Egyptian activist and blogger Hossam Hamalawi. "Mubarak is in a cage, Ben Ali ran away, and now Gadhafi killed. ... All this will bring down the red line that we can't get these guys."
Thursday's final blows to the Gadhafi regime allow Libya's interim leadership, the National Transitional Council, to declare the entire country liberated.
It rules out a scenario some had feared — that Gadhafi might flee into Libya's southern deserts and lead a resistance campaign. Following the fall of Tripoli on Aug. 21, Gadhafi loyalists mounted fierce resistance in several areas, including Sirte, preventing the new leadership from declaring full victory. Earlier this week, revolutionary fighters gained control of one stronghold, Bani Walid.
Information Minister Mahmoud Shammam told AP that Muatassim Gadhafi was killed in Sirte. Abdel-Aziz, the doctor who accompanied Gadhafi's body in the ambulance, said Muatassim was shot in the chest. Also killed was Gadhafi's Defense Minister Abu Bakr Younis.
Justice Minister Mohammed al-Alagi said Seif al-Islam Gadhafi had been wounded in the leg and was being held in a hospital in the city of Zlitan, northwest of Sirte. Shammam said Seif was captured in Sirte, but the senior NTC leadership did not immediately confirm.
The National Council will declare liberation on Saturday, Mohamed Sayeh, a senior council member, said. That begins a key timetable toward creating a new system: The NTC has always said it will form a new interim government within a month of liberation and will hold elections within eight months.
But the revolutionary forces are an unruly mix of militias from Libya's major cities, and already differences have emerged between them. Revolutionaries from Tripoli, Misrata and Benghazi — Libya's second-largest city that has served as the rebel capital during the civil war — have exchanged accusations that each is trying to dominate the new rule.
Also, Islamic fundamentalists have taken an increasingly prominent role, pushing for some form of Islamic state in Libya, causing friction with more secular leaders.
"Libyans aim for multiparty politics, justice, democracy and freedom," said Libyan Defense Minister Jalal al-Degheili. "The end of Gadhafi is not the aim, we say the minor struggle is over. The bigger struggle is now coming. This will not happen unless all the Libyan people are ... united."
Associated Press reporters Rami al-Shabheibi in Misrata, Libya and Hadeel Al-Shalchi, Maggie Michael and Sarah El Deeb in Cairo contributed to this report. Gamel reported from Tripoli.
"Thunderous celebratory gunfire and cries of "God is great" rang out across Tripoli well past midnight, leaving the smell of sulfur in the air."
Barbarians. I know where the smell of sulfur came from.
I have no sympathy whatsoever for Gadhafi (or bin Laden), but the execution of foreign leaders specifically violates American law, and we supported these rebels. Once again, sometime in the future, we'll reap what we sow through rampant interventionism.
"It also thrusts Libya into a new age in which its transitional leaders must overcome deep divisions and rebuild nearly all its institutions from scratch to achieve dreams of democracy."
Yeah, just like in Iraq. How long before President Barack "W." Obama takes us into another war there? Perpetual war is part of the business plan of the unified, globalized economic syndicate.
lockerby is all the justification needed to feel GOOD about this!
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Developers Boston Properties and the Related Companies are moving forward
with plans to build an office tower at 740 Eighth Avenue, between 45th and 46th streets, that could be as large as one million square feet. The developers bought out six property owners last year for $350 million and filed a request last month to transfer 120,319 square feet of land owned by the Shubert Organization to be part of the planned office building. The developers also asked for a permit to build a 406-space attended public parking lot on the site.
Developers move ahead with Eighth Avenue office tower
November 26, 2008 08:00AM


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Male and female students win hockey tournaments at Universiade
CANAZEI, Italy Canada came to Trentino with only one goal in my mind; to win gold. They achieved it both with the mens and womens ice hockey teams at the 2013 Winter Universiade.Canada claimed gold in the mens ice hockey final after a 6-2 win over Kazakhstan.It feels incredible, forward Lucas Bloodoff said. This is what we came here for and we achieved it.After falling behind after 14 seconds thanks to an Alexander Shin goal, Canada stormed back with three first period goals through Mike Cazzola, Josh Day and Matthew Maione.The second period saw them score twice more thanks to Chris Culligan and Neil MacNeil to take a 5-1 lead into the third period.A rough, fight filled third period saw both teams find the back of the net once each, as Culligan, then Shin, bagged their second goals of the night. Kazakhstan finished the game with 70 penalty minutes, while Canada had only eight in a third period that was full of raw emotion.The two sides had met in the final match of the group stage in which Kazakhstan picked up a 4-2 win. However, the tables were turned on Saturday.I think we went into that first game too complacent, Bloodoff said. It was definitely a wake-up call but we learned from it and got the job done today.The Canadian team, made up of all-stars from the Atlantic University Sport Conference, came into the tournament with high hopes. With gold now around their neck, Bloodoff says its a moment he, nor his teammates, will ever forget.It is truly amazing to win gold, Bloodoff said. This is something we will all forever share together.Canada made it to the gold medal game thanks to a 2-1 victory over Russia while Kazakhstan eliminated the United States in the semi-finals with a 5-1 win to reach the gold medal game as the only undefeated team by then. The Russians beat the U.S. 6-2 to claim the bronze medals.Its a double hockey victory for Canada as the womens team also pocketed the gold medal for the third consecutive time since womens ice hockey was introduced to the Universiade in 2009.The Canadian womens team celebrates after winning the final to continue the undefeated streak after three Universiades. Photo: Enrico PrettoIt was a great game. For our nation its a pride to win this Winter Universiade title for the third time in a row, Canadas captain Kim Deschenes said. During these two weeks, my team mates have made this adventure an unforgettable experience.In Pergine, the team coached by Howie James Draper beat Russia 5-0. The first goal arrived in the 14th minute of the game thanks to the action of Jessica Pinkerton. In the second period, the Canadians extended their lead with goals of Smith and Clement Heydra. At the end of the third period came also the goal by Brooker and the second score of the day for Smith.For us, this silver is like gold. We never thought to get on the podium before the tournament started. We arrived here in Trentino as outsiders, said Russias Elina Mitrofanova. We gave everything, also in this very last game. Canada was stronger and they deserved to win.Team USA won the bronze medals in a 3-1 win over Japan.Click here for scores & stats: Men, WomenFor general information on the Winter Universiade visit www.fisu.net and www.universiadetrentino.org.CHRISTIAN PIERREEGON THEINERFinal Ranking Men:1. Canada2. Kazakhstan3. Russia4. USA5. Slovakia6. Italy7. Czech Republic8. Latvia9. Ukraine10. Sweden11. Japan12. Great BritainFinal Ranking Women:1. Canada2. Russia3. USA4. Japan5. Great Britain6. Spain


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Johann Sebastian Bach SONATAS FOR VIOLIN AND KEYBOARD
Violin Sonata No. 1 in B minor, BWV 1014 Violin Sonata No. 2 in A major, BWV 1015 Violin Sonata No. 3 in E major, BWV 1016 Violin Sonata No. 4 in C minor, BWV 1017 Violin Sonata No. 5 in F minor, BWV 1018 Violin Sonata No. 6 in G major, BWV 1019
Frank Peter Zimmermann, violin Enrico Pace, piano
Live recording from the Bibliothekssaal Kloster Polling, 16-18 May 2008.
Bonus: Bach and me – Documentary about Frank Peter Zimmermann
Picture format: NTSC 16:9 Sound format: Dolby Digital 2.0 and 5.1 / DTS 5.1 Region code: 0 (worldwide) Subtitles: English, German, French Booklet notes: English, German, French Running time: 96 mins (concert) + 60 mins (documentary) No. of DVDs: 1 (DVD 9)