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What might be safe maximum print size for dis/gallery showing from x-t1? I would want observer, pixel peeper or not, to view as close as possible. I shoot solely landscape, tripodded, best glass. This camera light backup to 4x5, mostly b&w, occasional 60p video.
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A camera for all weather? Shooting with the Fujifilm X-T1 + Japan gallery
We first laid our hands on the Fujifilm X-T1 about a month ago when it was announced. Now that we've had some time to shoot with it extensively, we've gathered our thoughts on using the latest X-Trans camera from Fuji. The X-T1 offers much of what the X-E2 does, including a 16 megapixel APS-C sensor with on-chip phase detection. More than that, it offers an SLR-style sculpted handgrip and weather-resistant sealing. Click the links below to find out what the X-T1 is like to use in the field.
We've also added 40 images to a gallery of real-world samples taken in Japan, during and after the recent CP+ show in Yokohama. Click the link below to go straight to the gallery.
Read our Fujifilm X-T1 Shooter's Experience
View our gallery of real-world samples from Japan
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Fujifilm X-T1 16 MP Compact System Camera with 3.0-Inch LCD and XF 18-55mm F2.8-4.0 Lens | $1,698.99 |
Fujifilm X-T1 16 MP Compact System Camera with 3.0-Inch LCD and XF 18-55mm F2.8-4.0 Lens | $1,698.99 |
Fujifilm X-T1 16 MP Compact System Camera with 3.0-Inch LCD (Body Only) | $1,299.00 |
Fujifilm X-A1 Kit with 16-50mm Lens (Black) | $449.00 |
Fujifilm X-E1 16.3 MP Compact System Digital Camera with 2.8-Inch LCD and 18-55mm Lens (Black) | $799.00 |
Fujifilm X-S1 12MP EXR CMOS Digital Camera with Fujinon F2.8 to F5.6 Telephoto Lens and Ultra-Smooth 26x Manual Zoom (24-624mm) | $349.00 |
Fujifilm X100S 16 MP Digital Camera with 2.8-Inch LCD (Silver) | $1,299.00 |
Fujifilm X-E2 16.3 MP Compact System Digital Camera with 3.0-Inch LCD and 18-55mm Lens (Black) | $1,299.00 |
Fujifilm X-E2 16.3 MP Compact System Digital Camera with 3.0-Inch LCD and 18-55mm Lens (Silver) | $1,299.00 |
Fujifilm X-E2 16.3 MP Compact System Digital Camera with 3.0-Inch LCD - Body Only (Black) | $899.00 |
Fujifilm X-M1 Compact System 16 MP Digital Camera with 16-50mm Lens and 3-Inch LCD Screen (Brown) | $599.00 |
I'm trying really hard to like the people shots for the new Fuji. I think something has been lost since the earlier Fuji's particularly the X100.
Purchased xt-1 two days ago,sad to say zoom thumb wheel lasted one day fuji stated it is a hardware problem,have to wait for a replacement ,but for the short time I shot with it I did enjoy the camera
X-T1 balances well with prime lens, perfect for street photos and travel, but they need a more robust body for heavy use, maybe GH3 size for photojournalist and sports photographer.....unless they r only aiming at enthusiast market.
Looks like I will be waiting for the X-Pro 2
Thinking far too much about camera controls....maybe a totally crazy idea. Why not have fewer controls on rear right side. Position them only at top, not forcing thumb to bend down toward palm...unnatural movement. Have four or five nice clicky buttons on lest of lcd, as in x-e2, AND still have the lcd articulate down. I would prefer to share some duties with my left hand.
Hey, why not have grip on left side, reversing my idea? Fun to think about it.
I had the chance to use it for an evening. Next to all the pros and cons already written I have two comments: The four way control buttons are quite on the same level as the back plate and I could not identify them clearly while keeping my eyes on the viewfinder. The second is that the X-T1 with the grip and the 56mm 1.2 lens is a heavy beast.
The main advantage of a mirrorless camera is its smaller form factor. Once it become too big, it defeat the purpose of having one. For now, the Micro 4/3 format still offer the best compromise. I still feel the Fuji lenses are too big which are almost as big as those from the full frame format.
Perhaps another aspect I don't like is the "manual focus by wire" and its over reliance on software to correct the flaws of its under-design lenses. Very few Mirrorless lenses are optically perfect to stand on its own. Just a bit disappointing. Focus by wire also uses more power from the battery reducing its lifespan per charge.
I've just ordered a full XP1 kit(two actually) with battery grip only partly because it's so much lighter, smaller and quieter than my D700 kit.
I think by far the main advantage of mirrorless is the WYSIWYG viewfinder.
Backstage, I have been saying the same thing all along. I don't understand people who praise mirrorless cameras for their "portability", then you look at their camera, and it is full of paraphernalia...battery grips, thumb grips, leather casings, etc.
The other day some dude bashed my D600 and 85mm f1.8D because it's "big and bulky". What did he have? An Olympus OMD-EM1 with a battery grip and the 75mm f1.8...his kit being equaly "bulky " as mine.
I have the X-T1 with the 18mm f2. 35mm f1.4, and 60mm f2.4. I know the 56mm f1.2 and the new weather sealed zoon are supposed to be superb, but they are quite big. I would not want them (famous last words) due to size...at that point I am better off shooting with the D600.
The size of a mirrorless camera will never defeat its purpose. The purpose of any camera is to take pictures, and large size doesn't stand in the way of that.
The main advantage of mirrorless isn't smaller size, it's that you get rid of the mirror box. This leads to less mechanical complexity, and gives more freedom in lens design.
The possibility of making a mirrorless camera smaller is an option, not its purpose. If you prefer a DSLR-sized camera for ergonomic reasons, then you probably want a mirrorless camera to be just as large. And if you have no problems with handling a smaller camera, then there are several alternatives to choose from.
Because carrying around two XT-1 bodies with one battery grip from gig to gig to gig, is much less of a burden than carrying two Nikon Pro DSLR bodies.
Then there's the difference in lens size and weight.
I bought E-M1 for small size and portability. But I did want to get HLD-7 for it as well because battery grip is very usable in many situations, otherwise just get extra batteries.
I rarely take the grip away, but setup is still compact and light with it.
like D600 with battery and memorycards is 850 g and then add a MB-D14 battery grip for it and you have 348.7 g or 405.4 g (battery vs 6 AA batteries) extra so you are over 1.2kg with the setup (because you want vertical grip and extra balance/grip).
With E-M1 + HLD-7 you get 497 g + 235 g (+50g for battery) so you are well below 0.8kg what gives you 400g saved weight on body+grip+battery+card alone.
Add a lenses to it and you grow the difference considerably.
And if you have Olympus 45mm f/1.8 in use, that is just joke as the lens is so small that it is like not having it at all, and you really almost need to remove the grip to get it look like a camera instead joke.
Or compare how it looks with 60mm macro lens!
Compared to other cameras I own / have owned:
vs. X-E1 - much faster response times and focus performance, better EVF and LCD displays.
vs. OMD-EM5 – better ergonomics, better EVF and LCD displays, better Image quality, equally good response times and focusing performance
vs. D600 - aesthetics and portability are X-T1 advantages, but I guess that is it. Everything else the D600 can do better. Why compare them? Because they cost about the same!
My set-up is:
Front command dial = aperture (for lenses without the aperture ring)
Rear command dial = shutter speed adjustments
Front fn = select custom setting (I have some for portraiture in color and BW, and the rest for landscapes and things like street photography, again, in color and BW)
Top fn = timer
Top arrow = macro
Right arrow = WB
Bottom arrow = focus point selector
Left arrow = focus mode
What I don't like about it:
While the little flash is good, the system is not. Why is the flash compensation buried in the menus?
The SD card door feels weak even when closed. It does not attach firmly to the camera body.
The arrow buttons were not designed correctly…they are a bit concave (vs. domed in the X-E1) which makes pressing them a bit of a pain. Thankfully, once you set up your custom settings, there is not much of a need to mess around with these things.
With all the manual dials on the top panel similar to the Canon G12 I was very excited to try it at the launch event. I was looking forward to buy one but some of the issues you mention are just some of them. After using it I still prefer a DSLR like the Canon 5D Mk3 despite the heavier weight. The DSLR user interface is still so much better. Further, it has much better tracking focus, choice of lenses and more importantly, the better battery lifespan.
I would consider the flash exposure compensation to be very important. Burying it in the menu just make it more difficult to use.
If one is looking for a lighter replacement to a DSLR as an alternative workhorse, the XT1 is just not it. However, it might be good as a recreational camera for photo enthusiast who shoot at his own pace. For this purpose, one may find a lot of alternatives.
white shadow, I agree the X-T1 is not a replacement for a semi pro / pro DSLR. But to be fair, the same is true of ALL other mirrorless cameras. There isn't a mirrorless camera that is as well rounded as a DSLR. Even if you look at something as docile as the Nikon D600, it outperforms ALL mirrorless regardless of brand. The X-T1 is a very fun camera, a recreational camera. You would be compromising a bit using the X-T1 is a professional setting, particularly long sessions and moving subjects.
The X-T1 has a darker side. Read what "luminous-landscape.com" has to say.
The review of x-t1 by LL was almost totally positive. Their sample images gorgeous, beautiful, artful. Only at end did they make note of minor issues. If i was going by that article, i would buy the camera asap. Yes, the few primes largish, but man, compare them side by side with nikon or canon glass, they not that bad. And fuji glass sharpest by far.
My only issue is unfeeling flush rear buttons?.still contemplating purchas.
I think he means Michael's review not Nick's. I think reviews were balanced and fair. Nick is mostly a landscape type of shooter and has time to set up his shots. Michael appears to shoot more varied subject matter where flexibility is more necessary. I don't think its a "dark side" its pretty obvious its a 1989 control scheme and even film cameras had evolved considerably (EOS 1, Minolta etc) from that point. But a lot of people have love for the old day of shooting and if they want to experience that on a modern mirrorless the XT-1 is good choice. Personally I think it would drive me batty.
Let's keep in mind the X-T1 has 7 custom settings you can pre-set for the type of shooting you do. And there are the fn buttons as well, for changing things like WB and focus mode/point on the fly. Other potential changes for things like photometry or drive modes have dedicated buttons. So you are left having to change the exposure triangle combination. And why would anyone want to fiddle with that very often? Unless one alternates shots from things to people, there is really no need. And the beauty is you can set your exposure triangle before even turning on the camera.
@White Shadow - in regards to the Luminous landscape web link: The custom setting issue is somewhat irrelevant in many real life shooting situations. Even if you have the customer settings like U1, U2...like the Nikon/Canon camera bodies, you may still run into having the wrong lens mounted on the camera at the time. This is why pros carry at least two bodies on the field, one wide and one tele. The true to the matter is that no single camera is perfect for everything, we need to decide what's our priorities are and take the appropriate equipment on the field. For me, I'll take my D800 if IQ is #1 priority and the x100s or XT-1 for portability...to be honest, I'd grab either X-series cameras 95% of the time over my D800.
I bit the bullet and bought the X-T1. Had to sell some older Nikkor "D" lenses and the X-E1 to justify this purchase. Below is my quick review, which I have also posted on Amazon (place I bought from).
While the X-E1 offers the same image quality, the performance is just not on the same level. My main complaint about the X-E1 was the lagging AF, which is always a hit or miss, the small and jittery EVF, and the small and low resolution rear LCD. The X-T1 has great focusing in terms of both, speed and accuracy (I have lenses 18mm f2, 35mm f1.4, and 60mm f2.4). The EVF is almost like an OVF it is so good and large. The rear LCD is big and feels like high quality glass (or whatever it is made of). All in all a great performer. Again, this camera is the real deal; no BS.
Sorry to pester you guys, but i live far from camera shop and might be a month before i get the chance again to have x-t1 in my hands.
Since all my work is done on tripod, the use of right thumb my be often replaced using fingers. I think then small back buttons less of issue. My backup bamera with toyo 4x5 has been canon g12. It has tiny on/off button on top which i cannot feel and activate with thumb, but easily with fingertip.
Could someone test this out on their x-t1 for me?
After many minutes playing with it, I feeling so clumsy using this camera. It's nice looking retro camera but wasn't nice to use in operation wise.
Not sure what you mean man. Operating this camera is a joy. If you bought it just for the looks, I don't know what to tell you. I guess you can use it in Auto that way no need to fiddle with controls.
Before you bash him for his honest reflection of hisexperience, why dont you ask him why the camera feels clumsy.?
The way Fuji X-T1 retro design mimicking the old manual camera control, it may look nice but somehow it end up making me feel clumsy.
With a smaller camera body, my eye on the EVF and right index finger on the shutter button/dial, moving left fingers on the small top plate to make changes, especially the shutter speed, really make my experience feel odd & clumsiness.
Of course I can use the camera in Auto, but with the many dials on the top plate make me want to make use of them, or else they end up doing nothing and defeat the purpose of having them.
I am an old timer, but think I am spoiled by the advancement in electronics over the last few decades, to use 2 dials and some buttons control over A/S/ISO settings.
Perhaps you still liking the old way, but I definitely not very fond of combining old manual operation on a new digital camera.
I may be a old timer having many manual cameras before, but it's not 1970's~80's anymore, so this type of camera it's not for me anymore.
NewForce, I guet your points. And it also depends on the shape and agility of your fingers, especially the thumb and index. I happen to have long thin fingers, so finding and turning the dials is not an issue.
What I don't understand though is that you knew this camera requires heavy manual operation. I mean, I assume you read about the camera and looked at pictures of it, with all its dials and levers. So if you don't like 1970's type conrols on a camera, why even look into the X-T1? Put another way, you are bashing a retro style camera for being retro.
I've been shooting with the XT-1 w/both 35mm f/1.4 & 23mm f/1.4 for about a week now. Here is what I've notices:
IQ better than my X100s indoors under same ISO and lighting condition
Tends to have a bit more red on the skin tone outdoors just like X100s
Jpegs are sharper and have less noise than RAW images, especially at higher ISO
AW is right on in many indoors lighting situations
AF is right on even at f1.4
One more thing after trying with different ISO and comparing jpegs vs RAW:
Best IQ is at or below ISO 1600
RAW files require quite a bit sharpening into to match sharpness of jpegs
Jpegs excel RAW in terms of sharpness/noise performance all the way...
Final Thoughts: x100s vs XT-1
If money is an issue; no need for interchangeable lenses; portability is important, wants retro look and feel, less post-processing, the x100s is definitely a winner over the XT-1.
If you want the look and feel of a retro camera, less post-processing, dedicated interchangeable lenses with large aperture, XT-1 is the way to go. High ISO performances are quite similar between the two up to ISO 1600.
I've been using the X-T1 with my Contax Zeiss lenses and a Metabones Speed Booster adapter. The images I'm getting from this combination are really quite beautiful in terms of color, texture, detail... plus I love using the camera.
I understand why some would not like this camera... and for others, the pricing makes no sense.... but for someone with a collection of classic lenses and a preference for minimal or even zero post processing, this is quite a camera. It's really the best option I've tried for putting my classic Zeiss glass on a modern body.
I've compared this camera to a Sony a7r side by side... the sony has a fantastic sensor.... but I miss shots because the shutter lag just gets in the way.
Take a look at a high-res file I just shot a few days ago. This was shot on the XT-1 with the Contax Zeiss 100mm Makro 2.8 and the Metabones Speedbooster.
The price is not horrible. I believe it is competitive with the likes of 70D, D7100, OMD-EM1, A7, etc.
Why the strong overexposure in many samples? The camera tends to behave like this?
Photographers determine exposure. The camera just does what it's told to do.
Really nice reds, good detail, good dynamic range at high ISO's, reasonably small, compact. What's there not to like?? Oh,wait a minute - $1300 without lens.
Hi again,
Another question for those with x-t1...with lcd at horizontal, will a hoodman 3x loupe rest on lcd without the eyecup getting in way! I hope i would not have to tilt down lcd.
Thanks, gary
I have offered negative input about small back buttons, but doggone, still want the camera. Is there some inventive ideas how one might add to button surface or ring around button to make them more definable to feeling of thumb?
Also, do you think i could keep my eye, through a hoodman viewer constantly viewing lcd without having to look up at dials?
I've seen people use that sugru stuff, or similar, to form custom buttons.
Interesting stuff, sugru. But being so thick, i wonder if a small enough little ball of the sugru could be pressed down and possibly beyond button, obstructed downward movement of button. A rather experiment if it desroyed the buttons/camera.
But thanks for your idea.
Maybe a workaround...
or see suggestion from Izel Photography on http://www.fujirumors.com/iso-unlocker-for-the-x-t1-for-20/
What I don't understand in general is this bashing of mirrorless in terms of its capability. I think an APS-C sensor or a Full Frame sensor is still an APS-C or FF be that in a mirrorless, DSLR, or whatever. You get the same benefits, plus the portability and discrete operation of a small camera.
In fact this story today, is very telling of what REAL pros, who actually spend more time taking photos than discussing insignificancies, think of mirrorless
Not one DSLR in his bag. By many people's opinion here this guy should be given an instant downgrade from pro to vermin :D
mirrorless is here to stay and I myself am convinced and convert. While I love my DSLRs, I would definately not bash a mirrorless, with the same form factor or superior to my DSLRs.
I agree with a lot of what you say, but I see more DSLR bashing than mirrorless bashing on DPreviews forums. I don't know why some people (not you Provia_fan) seem to feel the need to justify their selection by attacking other types of camera.
DSLRs and mirrorless have different strengths and weaknesses and which you choose is up to you.
Camley - it's so right!!!
It is absolutely not important what camera type you use - it is important what can you "say" with your photo. I want to remind you all that 50-60-70 years ago image quality was - gently saying - poor. But we still look at some photos with amazement. Why? Because they have great moment and feelings captured! Image quality is the ADDITION to the photo. So keep shooting and be happy with it!
Nice camera but it seems to be lacking in direct access buttons not compensated for with the function dials.
Have you used it?
Sure seems plenty accessible by button and/or dial, much better than other Fuji X cameras.
Stupidly the shooting mode, e.g. single, bracket, panorama, etc changes too easily when turning the ISO dial on the top left.
Why making the MGH-XT? why not making the body 0.5" longer, 0.5" thicker and may be 0.25" for a bigger battery = doubling the total shots per charge?
XT-1 could be a wonderful camera but not too many pros like kit just because of the 350 shots restriction/battery.
Hope Fujifilm will consider and make the correction in the next XT-2
Use the viewfinder.
Don't chimp every shot.
Buy an additional battery.
Don't take 350 recreational shots.
(Actually 350 is about average for the class - Oly OMD's, Sony A7's, lots of the Pan G's, etc)
As for the 'pros' - if the camera were being purchased for professional use the battery grip would probably be part of their 'kit'..
300 shots totally suffice. The oversized batteries are one reason why I do not buy FF/APS-C. Easy to swap battery
Miron what do you mean when you say "The oversized batteries are one reason why I do not buy FF/APSC."
The X-T1 is APSC!
Wow people are gushing about this camera. What happened to APS-C was dead? And they are willing to pay $1700 for it, about the same for an E-M 1 also. I thought sensor prices were getting cheaper and removing mirrors would reduce cost but you can almost buy a FF camera with or without mirror for this price. D7100 and K5IIs or K3 are looking like bargains. Compare a Pentax K-50 to a Fuji X-M1, Fuji is bare bones and Pentax comes with prism OVF and weather sealing. I like mirrorless concept but we are being gouged for what should be much cheaper cameras.
That 1699 is with the 18-55mm F2.8-4. Which is NOT your average kit lens. Body price is about the same as the Pentax K3 and so is it's feature set.
Both are great still camera's
When will Fuji like Oly push the envelope?
At least it seems that Fuji 'listens' or 'hear' what customers want.
It still will remain as an afterthought.
Imagine a pro active company, without stupid teasers when an new camera comes out, ask us the photographers upfront what we want and why, good for the marketing and we will be better off with a product for what it is meant for, taking photographs!
Equipment made by photographers for photographers, an other philosophy an other approach. Just imagine the potential.
OK, I agree I do not have the balls, the means and the knwoledge to start that kind of a comapny myself. I just have crazy ideas and a dream :-)
Pushing the envelope should be about useful functionality for the photohgrapher and not about marketing 'terminology and numbers' to impress the competetion.
So what do you, as a customer, want? Your post was very vague.
The X-T1 and the E-M1 look to me like they tick a lot of boxes.
What in the heck is your point???
What aspects of photography are you wanting pushed, and you feel Oly is pushing something Fuji is not???
Add the top three Oly cameras in the scene comparison and the X-T1 shows stronger performance in detail retention at all ISO settings, especially higher ISO settings.. As very few other brands are accomplishing that isn't that a pushed envelope???
Regarding photographers making equipment for photographers - in color saturation, noise control, general contrast, detail contrast, and overall dynamic range that is exactly what you are getting from Fujifilm - photography equipment made by one of the largest imaging companies in the world... O.o
Photography is not about megapixels, it is not about autofocus points, it is not about small bodied cameras, it is not about whether the equipment has a mirror or prism view finder - it is about the image - and that is exactly what Fujifilm is pushing, and sometimes in a neat functional well thought out package.
Oh come on. It's a nice camera but it is not the second coming of Jesus Christ. Nothing on it is earth shaking or novel as heck. And a few people are not that impressed with the handling since they have received it. The rear dial mostly and the recessed buttons in it are biggest gripe.
I will wait until they up the MP's. Too much money for pretty much a pretty face when you can buy mostly the same guts for a lot less.
(webrunner5) if you are referencing my comment, I was addressing the ambiguous comment about pushing some proverbial envelope...
As for the X-T1 itself, I am an old film guy (old guy in general I guess lol) and to me the body design is fantastic, but no it is not revolutionary or anything. It does embody just about everything from my old film bodies though - and it is digital! I would love if it had a real through the lens viewfinder (optical) but without a mirror that is not going to happen.
I have not made a purchase yet (waiting on tax refund) but I have played with some in Houston and I do not see the gripe with the rear dial, nor the compensation dial, they both feel fine to me.. I am able to discern the four directional buttons as well, maybe my thumb is more sensitive or something. The buttons have a ridge along the edge that for me at least is easy to distinguish. It would be great if you didn't have to assign one of them to AF point selection and press twice, but workable..
Hi dpreview mods
How come I click on the photos from japan taken with the xt1 and leads me to the camera review.
What link (where) are you clicking?
You can find those photos here: http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/albums/fujifilm-x-t1-in-japan-february-2014
and here: http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/albums/fujifilm-xf-10-24mm-f4-r-ois-beta-samples-gallery
...but can one see the changes from the dials in the lcd? With my limited sight, difficult to lift my eye(i can not read words, but recognize them) and change to another magnifier to see what i have changed dial to. Oh, how i had good vision. If i did, being this narrow in function would not be as much an issue. Maybe there is something i can add to the buttons to feel them easier.
Thanks much for your valuable insight.
The camera menu buttons are small and the rear wheel could be large or in a different place. But this came has an apture dial on the lens, the rear wheel does the same thing. It is not a menu driven camera, most of what you want is on direct dials. The menu buttons are mostly for set things you rarely change.
I looked through the gallery and thought, there aint no "wow" factor here. Very underwhelming.
Yeah...., probably had a lot more to do with the photographer and some of the poor settings and cmops chosen by the said photographer. Really, these Dpreview sample images show nothing useful about cameras that I can see. Every "real world samples" gallery I've seen looks terrible, even on the best cameras.
But to be honest, sample photos published at the DP galleries aren't amazing shots... Sometimes i think that the sample gallery is the weakest point of every photographic portal.
I have truly enjoyed respnses of late. It clear Fuji attracts a precion crowd.but to go back a week....I am mostly blind, and my sensitive, investigative fingers have roamed over every surface of x-t1. My gosh, those rear buttons are rediculousy small! Please everyone, before purchasing, get your hands on it. Don't get me wrong, been drooling for this camera since it first rumored. Maybe bigger buttond on x-t2.
Going back a bit in this "discussion"; I don't fully understand why using the Adobe Converter for Raw would make any difference because of Fuji's sensor pattern. It would seem to me that the correct parameters for Fuji's RAW output would be properly figured into Adobe's application. I use RAW conversion in both Photoshop and Lightroom - they both have their merits and minor drawbacks. I've never found a camera manufacturer's own conversion software to be as good as other third party applications. Set me straight on this if I am mistaken.
Read the following article and you know why there is a distinct difference in regular camera's that use a bayer pattern and fuji x-trans technology.
If you look clearly at the regular sensor pattern (bayer) used in conventional digital cameras in comparisson with the x-trans sensor pattern you will see a big difference in technology used.
This is why Adobe needs to adapt their software for reading the x-trans sensor output properly and why the current version of ACR/Lightroom engine outputs false colors and soft pictures for fuji x camera's.
The new 8.4 engine tackles this problem and will from now on work fine with fujifilm x-trans camera's.
Worst sensor? That means you think it is worse then the ancient canon 18mp which is of course false.
Actually it looks like the best APS-C sensor to my eyes. The others struggle (horribly) with reds, and it exhibits by far the least moire, and noise levels compare with FF sensors, although it appears to be at least partly a result of more aggressive in-camera NR even in raw. Fuji seems to struggle with green details, so there is that tradeoff. In general I do find the Fuji colours very pleasant.
That's the sensor side, as a whole package this camera is easily the most interesting machine on the market in many, many years. Control layout, ergonomic weather-sealed body with awesome form factor and IQ combined with the first usable EVF make it very appealing to me.
Actually it has the best APS-C sesor and the best colour reproduction. You can complain about low light AF, or normal light CAF compared to a high-end dlsr but the sensor is damn great!
> worst sensor
well, it depends on which part of the sensor.
the semiconductor part is not too bad,
the X-Trans color filter part is simply rubbish.
Its actually a smarter build then all other camera manufacturers use yabokkie.
With all regular sensor designs you need a optical low pass filter. The fuji sensor can do without giving you sharper images and better colour rendition and less chance of moire.
Too bad you don't understand the technology used.
fuji rumors noted fuji probably use the same sony 16.2 mp cmos family found on sony nex with the hybrid AF (fuji also has 1 bayer 16.2 model too). What the different is fuji use its exclusive x-tran pattern vs bayer for most of their camera. Sony gets 6 month exclusive of the sensor first. Like the x100s came out a least 6 months after the nex5 came out. Every raw converter read raw files differently.
Least moire?
Looks like I got my terms mixed up, you are correct there's some serious moire on the Fuji.
I was referring to another artifact (colour fringe?)
Not least but less moiré compared to no AA filter Bayers.
False patterns, too:
See those diagonal lines? Guess what, they are like this \\\, not like that ////.
If you think this is the worst sensor, then you're using it wrong!
I haven't received mine yet, but the sensor on my X Pro1 is every bit as good as my D700s.
Love the camera. It has a knob for almost everything. But some knobs are missing.
1. I wonder if they can include the focus peaking dedicated knob? That one could be on the side of the camera, in the style of old radio receivers.
2. Also a knob for different film simulations?
3. A dedicated knob for choosing between RAW, JPEG, RAW+JPEG, so on.
4. A knob for choosing different resolutions too.
5. A knob for bracketing options, and many more knobs are desperately missing.
Well I wish it had a true dedicated knob for shutter speed. As it is now, you must first turn the dial to get close to the speed you want since it is only set for full stops, then turn another dial to fine tune the speed in 1/3 stops. They should have made the main dial in 1/3 stop increments.
What is the story about battery life? How many shots can it really takes on one charge? Nice to travel light but what if I had to carry a lot of extra batteries. For a few days it is not always possible to find an outlet in some places. It would be nice to have a comparison table which mirror less camera holds up the longest time. If you take the operational temperature in account we know that by cold temperatures batteries even deplete faster. Mirror less camera able to shoot around 999 shots that will be fantastic!
That remains to be one of the mirrorless weaknesses.
My GX7 needs 2 battery's for 1 day of serious shooting. While my Dslr get's through with just 1.
Mirrorless are always stuck in live view which just drains the battery more quickly as an OVF based system. For a thousand shots you will need about 3-4 batteries for most Mirrorless and just 2 for an Dslr.
BarnET is very correct. Battery life is one of the main problems with mirrorless cameras, be it APSC, Micro 4/3 or full frame. That's also one of the main reason why Pros still prefer the traditional DSLRs with OVF like a Canon 5D Mk3 or 1DX. Mirrorless cameras are convenient for occassional use and travelling but one cannot use it as a workhorse. If you are an event photographer or photo journalist you may have to carry at least 4-5 batteries for a half day shoot. If you are shooting outdoor in cold weather, you may have to carry more.
Further, if you are a nature photograher, you will need the long lenses and fast tracking focus of a real DSLR. Mirrorless cameras are just not there yet. Maybe its OK if you are a casual landscape photographer or street photographer. However, if you are a serious landscape photographer, you would prefer to use a full frame DSLR or even medium format like PhaseOne. The absolute detail and image quality is very important.
So, a DSLR is still the best.
If the locking ISO dial is an issue for you, you can get an ISO Unlocker for the X-T1:
Well, technically you can't yet; that's a Kickstarter project that hasn't reached its funding so far. It's potentially a good idea, although it doesn't appear to move the dial from the left side of of the camera. But in principle it should go part way to fixing that irritation, although the X-T1 still won't be as convenient for changing ISO as the X-Pro1, X-E2, or countless other cameras that access it from a single button press without needing a change of grip.
Fuji aproach to iso change in the X-T1 compared to the X-E2 is like the Nikon one vs the Canon one: clumsy ergonomics vs. good ergonomics :-)
If we have any users of both the XE-2 and the XT-1 here, could they say how different the single-shot focusing speeds (static subject) are for both cameras? From the article I gather they are not very different (with the same lens)?
I don't really need to track focus very often, focusing quickly in low light is much more important for me..
I just wish they made the rear buttons larger and with better feedback. The XE series looks so much better in this regard.
I haven't seen the camera with my own eyes, but from the photos, compared to the quality design and build of the rest of the camera, the small circular rear buttons look like they belong in a cheap digital wristwatch. :/
This looks like a very good walk around camera. Most of the pics were shot with kit lens and they look good. This is a very interesting camera.
Because of the processing method DPReview uses.
If they had used the new ACR/LR8.4 editing module you would find more sharpness and much better colour rendition.
Too bad that DPreview did use the 'old' processing engine.
@Just a Photographer
We did use the ACR8.4 beta - it's the only version of ACR to support the X-T1.
-Wait for raw files and good converter to handle them.
-I still use my s3 & s5 as its the best DR capable camera available until now but is getting old..
The camera is starting to be in stores, on display, for testing purposes in the USA. (Feb 27th, 2014).
And the latest full release of PhotoNinja (1.22) extracts the X-T1 raws. PictureCode.com is the website. There's trialware, but to get it to save you have to get a free two week license code from PictureCode.
Iridient (Mac only) will also extract X-T1 raws and there's trialware.
Adobe has already released Camera Raw 8.4 that can convert X-T1 RAW images. All images mentioned in our post for review of X-T1 have been shot in RAW and converted to DNG by Adobe Camera Raw 8.4. You can check the sample photos in our post
That's Adobe Camera Raw 8.4 RC, and RCs often don't install because of fake anti-fraud measures by Adobe, so I skipped it. (It's already a confirmed failure for me, but the real release will install correctly in some weeks.)
I note that in fact DPReview has posted some raws in the studio scenes, so that's a start.
Also your link has neither raws nor full sized jpegs for download. So not to the point. Yes nice enough to look at, but not points of judgement.
@srados: maybe the battery was running low. All the Fuji's I have owned have had this problem. When the battery goes low, they start producing banding type noise at high ISO. I haven't looked at the samples, but I can only assume that this may be the case. If the batteries are fresh or have good charge, the problem does not show.
My experience with mirrorless shows that battery drains faster as with Dslr's. Getting banding at low charge rates is a Con since it will ruin some shots in real life.
Good for pointing this weakness out.
But when I mean low, I mean real close to 0%. On the handful of occasions I have let my batteries go close to 0 I have noticed this. I don't let my batteries get that close to 0 in any camera except when I am really stuck and need to take a shot. I noticed the banding issue at high ISO only, I must underline. But for me it's a very very minor thing and I would have thought to many others. How many times do you get your batteries go that close to 0? Plus the I am more than happy with the results from my Fuji's 99.9% of the times.
Had camera in hand. But, and huge big but, those tiny, tiny Barbi doll little rear buttons!!!
The x-e2 had nice tactile "clicking" rear buttons.
This x-t1 is like a perfect new Porche, perfectly powerful engine, perfect seats, perfect windows, perfect tires....but it lacks an ignition swith...maybe the keys are sooooo tiny I lose them in my pocket, spending too much time finding them
I handled the X-T1 and I don't think the buttons too small.
Yes, smaller than the X-E2, but hey there's an EVF button in a normal location.
I bought the X-E2 in December and loved the image quality and character of the images... but I just couldn't get totally comfortable with the "rangefinder" form factor. I took advantage of a long exchange period and ordered the X-T1 as a replacement... wow! Just what I wanted!
I'm using this camera with a collection of older Contax Zeiss manual focus lenses and I could not be happier with the results. I just have a few requests for user interface improvements:
1. Custom Q Menu.
Many of the options on the Q menu don't apply to me since I'm using manual lenses... it would be wonderful to choose what items are available in the Q menu.
2. Focus Peaking Function Button.
Sometimes I want focus peaking and sometimes I don't. It would be nice to assign the front function button to focus peaking on/off
3. Smaller Spot Metering Square (with no corners)
The spot metering square is kind of odd... just a little too big and I often find the square shape difficult to use. How about a circle?
re: 2 focus peaking function button: you can press and hold focus assist button to bring up MF Assist menu, to change MF options
Hello REDred Photo,
I would love to hear what makes you happiest about the switch to the XT-1.
I'm considering switching to Fuji from a NEX-6, and I'm trying to decide between the XT-1 or the XE series (the price of the XE-1 is crazy low).
Is it the focusing speed that is much better with the XT-1, compared to XE-2? The EVF? Tilting screen?
My biggest worry is about the needlessly small and feedback-less rear buttons. Are these truly uncomfortable? What about the locking ISO dial?
I will either get the XT-1 (though it's very expensive), or wait a while for the XE-2's price to drop (at the moment the price difference is too little IMO), or take advantage of the very good price of the XE-1. Though I'm not sure if going from NEX-6 to XE-1 would be a downgrade..
The images look great. Look At the IQ test in low light and daylight. The X-T! easily goes to ISO 6400 in raw and Jpeg. They image look "useable", the others look no so good. For it's category, it has the best low specs. The Fuji system has a fine 16mp sensor w/o an AA fliter , for sharpness. It has good precessing, fast and accurate focusing. Add to this a fine set of lens equal to any lens maker. Put it together and for an APS-C @ 16MP it is at top of it's game. Change to higher MPs and lose low light, but get more resolution. It is a well balanced throuhtout system.
Where are you getting raws? And what software did you use to extract them?
Im not very impressed by the images that are hosted on DPR..most look soft the higher ISO images look softer still
I agree. All the pictures in the story looked soft. In the first gallery and the 2nd the close-ups and protraits all l ooked soft as well. It's not my viewer because others looked perfectly sharp. Is the problem the camera or the photographer?
Definitely not the camera's fault as we've seen with other user's examples.
if you see the full sized images on Photographyblog, they are the same, soft and at higher iso, watercolor like with a lots of loss in detail.
The watercolor-effect is probably the in-camera noise-reduction, right?
Isn't it possible to turn that off?
I'm currently a Nikon user thinking of making the move to Fuji. I'm always shooting with noise-reduction off...fixing that in post process instead...
Yes and no.
The watercolor effect is indeed from processing, but is caused by the X-Trans sensor architecture. It was a real issue when the sensor was new, as the processing algorithms were not "mature", but now it was solved in all important converters. Also on next Adobe LR update, the film simulation color curves will finally be implemented.
I'm too invested in Nikon's system to be talked out of the D7100, but if that wasn't so this would be my new camera. Fuji are really on their game at the moment. Hopefully that'll encourage everyone else to raise theirs.
The D7100's buffer is way too slow, so if that kind of thing matters, then there's a reason to consider Fuji, Sony, Samsung, etc. (Samsung has fixed the NX buffering problems with the NX 30.)
I understand that it's a pain to switch. But if you think switching to Fuji would help you enjoy photography more, then maybe it might be worth considering.
If you're in the US, Fuji is having a big sale on lenses. $150-$250 less than usual. Plus at BH, you can save an additional 4% off your purchase.
If anyone's going to switch to Fuji, now's the time to do it.
"Too slow" is a matter of use case. I can probably count the number of times I've taken more than one frame in a given second without taking my shoes off, and most of those were accidental second firings. The only reason I ever had winders/motor drives on my 35mm film SLRs was so that I could keep my eye to the finder when using longer lenses (where re-acquiring a target might be difficult). I understand that buffer depth is actually important for some people (sports/pj), but it's hardly a sine qua non for a desirable camera for everybody.
The problem isn't frame two in the second second; it's frames 4, 5, 6 and 7 in the next five seconds.
Film of course doesn't have these buffering problems. If a winder and camera can operate at such and such a speed, they'll keep shooting until the film runs out.
One of the advantages of digital over film, is one can shoot many extra shots with basically no waste of resources--except battery life and shutter wear.
For the year it was released, and price, the Nikon D7100's buffer is too slow, like the Samsung NX20's in that regard.
Ok... I'm going to be the odd ball out. I was so excited to order the Fujifilm X-T1.... It has been a while since I had been so excited about a camera. Last time I felt this way I ordered the Nikon D2x the day it was available and never looked back. As a matter of fact that and my iPhone are my only cameras. Now many years later my old Faithful D2x keeps on working but outdated so I bought the X-T1.
I rushed out to the UPS dispatch since I missed the truck. Got my Fujifilm X-T1 and held it. The fist thing my 8yo daughter said was "ooh, it's so little" Not a good way to start. Feels solid, well built....but petite. Don't know how I feel about that. Also, I'm having a hard time adjusting/accepting the EVF. My biggest dilemma now... to return it or not?
I just cant believe I lost seep over this...for crying out loud... I am an OBGYN and used to stressful situations every day....why is this stressing me OUT!
you're stressing out because its little and has a EVF..i thought thats why people bought these cameras !..you must be american if size matters in the "Bigger is best" mindset ?....also how about doing some homework before you impulse buy rather then subject a retailer to the return it because I didn't like it scenario
Tommot1965.... Thanks for the comment.
- I am American, but born in Guatemala
- Bigger is not always better
- I did research it extensively...I think half the fun is in the research.
- I'm not disappointed in the camera. I just didn't think that the feel of the camera and the EVF would impact me as much as it did.
- My main complaint with my Nikon D2x is the size and weight. I am not a pro photographer.... I'm just an average Joe who likes photography.
- Maybe I'm just set in my old ways...?
In any event, I will give the camera a good honest try before I make a decision.
- If I return it, I think the issue is within myself and not the camera.
It will take some time to get used to using a different "tool" to get the same job done. All you need to do is look at a site like Flickr and see what people are doing with the XE-2 or XT-1 to know that they are VERY capable cameras. Learning how to use and X body or any mirrorless will require a short learning curve. Until I purchased the XE-2 over this past holiday and now the XT-1, I was a Canon 5D2 then 5D3 user. If you give it some time you will love how much more portable the X cameras are. I have taken the XE-2 with me many times when I would have left the 5D3 home and I can honestly say there has been virtually zero fall off in performance - it just takes a while to get used to learning how to get the same shot you would have otherwise gotten with your D2X. There are certainly situations when my 5D3 will get a shot that I **might** not be able to get with a Fuji X camera but I haven't run into that situation yet. Lots of ways to solve a problem, each requires different skills.
Westporter.... T
hanks for the encouraging words. I will give the X-T1 an honest try. Currently I have the 18-55mm kit lens and the 23mm to play with.
CFBMD, you are correct, a lot of the fun is in the hunt.
The X-T1 is available for sale already? I thought it was to come out next week?
Currently I have an X-E1 and a D600. The X-E1 is so much fun, and I find the fuji colors for no-flash portraits to be probably the best right out of the camera. The skin tones are fantastic. However, I have kind of given up on the EVF. Now, I understand the X-T1's EVF is superior, but it's still not an OVF.
I will probably keep both systems, because while the fuji is great, the Nikon is even greater. I get a lot more keepers with the D600. I can get good shots even without a lot of effort.
When it really dawns on you that the EVF shows a close analog of what the image will be, rather than some unrelated look through a window, you will begin to enjoy it.
AlexRuiz, Thanks for the comment.
The X-T1 is on sale now.... Just got mine delivered from B&H photo via UPS yesterday. I love my Nikon D2x, but it is an old beast. Dependable, takes great shots in good light with old technology. The biggest problem I have is the weight and it's getting old. I have thought of the D800...but those LARGE files would just clutter my computer or drive. Then I thought of the D610...but after all the research I chose the Fujifilm X-T1.
I take photos for fun... almost never print them.
I enjoy the new technology but just don't know if I can get used to the EVF...:-(
-After spending countless hours looking on at blogs/reviews...etc...etc... my wife usually just looks at me and tells me:
Just buy the damn thing already.
It took me a a day to understand how the EVF was WYSWIG but when I did, WOW. I'm also pretty lazy so I will avoid post as much as possible. There are a lot of interesting in-camera processing options and much of what has been written about the jpeg output is accurate. I like saturation so I have my XE-2 on "Velvia" and leave it there. I also like Snapseed (think lazy) and love the fact that I can xfer pics to my Nexus tablet and two clicks later post something interesting + be done with processing. When I first picked up the XE-2 I had some of the same impressions/reservations you did about AF lag but I weighed it against the portability and the ease with which some really fun images can be created and shared and I haven't looked back. I'm not about to give up my 5D3 as there are things I know how to do with it that the limitations of the Fuji X cameras bump up against. Once again however, for most of the stuff I like to shoot, the portability of the XE-2 (now XT-1) has changed evythg.
For someone coming from a D2x, I guess I would have waited and gone with the new Lumix GH4. The Fuji is an outstanding camera and I have tried several of their models myself but ended up returning all of them due to various issues. For me, the Fuji menus and buttons were just too wonky. To each his own but for me, Panasonic and Olympus are hard to beat right now. Over the past several years I sold off all of my Nikon and Canon gear and put the money into a complete collection of Panasonic and M.Zuiko glass. If fact I just found out that my new Leica DG Nocticron 42.5mm shipped from Adorama today (price was a big ouch!).
Doesn't the iPhone have an EVF?
Bigger but not as good in bright light and crap focus aids.
Is the EVF on the X-T1 really that bad?
I held it in a shop. Too small for my average sized hands (used to a D700, now D800). Too light as well. And that EVF... sigh. Nice camera though. Return it.
I really want to like this X-T1... smaller, nice, light weight, an underdog, and nice lenses...... but I still am trying to get used to the EVF. Maybe I should think about the D800...?
- I can tell you that my old trustworthy Nikon D2x has never failed me since it's birth in 2005. The D2x is a beast...takes a beating and just keeps going..... just don't know if I could say the same of the X-T1..... Well I'm still trying it out with the kit lens 18-55mm and the beautiful 23mm.
-Since I'm just a dude with a camera.... I would like to limit myself to traveling with only one camea/camera system...:-)
I hope someone will now make an adapter for this camera to use Canon's manual focus FD lenses.
Tons of them out there. It would be well worth making it so the L-line FD can be put to good use. If such an adapter is made, I'd buy this camera without hesitation. I have a huge collection of Canon FD (L) lenses.
Of course Canon won't make adapters for any camera to use FD lenses since they want to sell more EF lenses!
Overall, good job Fuji, but I'm not sure if DPR is biased towards Fuji (for a while now) or if the products are really that good.
I haven't used any of Fuji's recent products (over the past few years), so I can't comment.
It surprises me that some people are almost writing their own evaluation in the comments even though this camera is not on the market yet, and they have never touched it in their hands!
I use a FD to XF adapter on my X-E2... so they exist. :)
Mine is a Kipon FD FX adapter. There's a couple other brands as well.
There are a lot adapters from canon FD to Fuji FX.
I use a X-E1 with minolta MD lenses, and is great. With the better viewfinder that X-T1 has, it probably is even better.
I also use a Mitakon cheap version of the Metabones speed booster. And it is even better as it has more or less the same focal length as on full frame.
If you don't know about it, look on their site, and if you can not belive (i didn't at start) there is a great article from Roger Ciacala here: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/01/metabones-magic
Also the speed booster is available in FD - X (but is quite pricey).
From my experience with the cheap Chinese variant of the adapter, i can say that i LOVE it, especially on the 50mm+ lenses. The metabones is said to be much better.
> Overall, good job Fuji, but I'm not sure if DPR is biased towards Fuji (for a while now)
If anything, from what I've read, if there's any bias at all it would be towards Olympus.
:)) I think you are more than right. They are biased both towards Olympus and Fuji. But on the other hand both fuji X cameras (which i have the X-E1) and Olympus OM-D (which i don't own, but have played a little with one) are amazing nice cameras.
I own a canon DSLR with good lenses, and fast AF .... but since i bought this X-E1 (SH and body only as i found it too pricey) i am only playing only with it and the old minolta lenses...
So probably they are biased because they are so fun to play with. The canon i have produces better images, with less effort ... but the FUJI is just to much fun :)
We're not biased towards or against manufacturers. We're completely, unashamedly biased towards good cameras.
It looks like another jewel of a camera to me. If we accept the fact that different people have different shooting styles and favorite subjects, then the proper question for judging this or any other camera would be: what is it good for? As a "mature", fine art photographer, I like to "sip" my photography. I also love the look of mechanically refined gear which gives me a sense of fine craftsmanship. I appreciate the functionality of button and dial controls but still enjoy the feeling of older-style controls. This camera would not be my first choice for fast action photography but there are caveats here too. I do take publication-quality action photos of animals with slower cameras because I spent the time to learn and predict animal behavior, and "be there" at the right time and place with the camera ready for the shot. It seems like the X-T1 can offer high IQ together with a very enjoyable shooting experience for my kind of photography. It needs a good set of weatherized lenses.
I think you are describing a Leica rangefinder camera. This camera is intended to go "hot and heavy" with any DLSR.
@ gesture
What?? Do you live in a video game or something? "...intended to go 'hot and heavy' against a DSLR."
The simple addition of PDAF hasn't suddenly transformed this into a rival of the D4 or something. One can shoot these cameras at any speed for most any purpose -- the XT-1 simply adds a bit more overall usefulness to the line. I own an XE-1 and 18-55 and it's terrific for my intended purposes but there are a few compelling features of this new camera I wouldn't mind having, but I wouldn't swap my FF nikon gear for fuji.
DP reviewers, Can you please tell us why you insist on converting X-Trans RAW files by ACR? It might be a good converter for other RAW files but, certainly, it is not for X-Trans files. I, myself, am very thankful for all the efforts that you put into shedding light on camera's capabilities but the truth is, when it comes to Fuji cameras, your evaluation cannot help photographers to make their minds because ACR outputs leave a lot to be desired. I am well aware that there is always a big inertia against changes but if conservativeness was the way to choose, we still had to shoot with pinhole cameras. If you don't have to stick to ACR for commercial reasons, please switch to a better RAW converter for X-Trans files. Otherwise, save your time and energy for reviewing cameras with conventional Bayer sensors since your reviews on them are truly informative.
@helltormentor - there are three reasons we use ACR to process all the cameras in our test scene:
1) Consistency - If we start cherry-picking converters for each camera, then the scenes would be less comparable and we'd have even more complaints that we've chosen the 'wrong' one or used the 'wrong; settings. There is no 'right' way of doing this, so we have to choose one way and be consistent with it.
2) Timeliness - Adobe has been very good at providing support soon after launches, which is essential for us to be able to start work on reviews.
3) Relevance - The ACR engine (through Photoshop, Elements and Lightroom) is by far the most-used third-party Raw converter and it is central to many people's workflows. A camera's performance in ACR gives those people an indication of the results they may get.
Ultimately, we can't provide everyone with what they think is their optimal process, so we always provide the Raw files so they can see for themselves.
As far as consistency goes, you are of course aware that raw converters like ACR has specific settings and tweaks for each supported raw format, are you not?
The fact that you use ACR for each raw image doesn't mean you get consistent result. Rather, the output is an expression of how well ACR converts raw images for a specific camera, and with that in mind you might as well use any other raw converter.
It will be very difficult for everyone to agree on which raw converter to use, so in that sense I understand why you would use ACR. But for cameras that use sensor designs that fall outside the normal bayer pattern (x-trans, foveon), perhaps a compromise might be to include a sample raw conversion from the most widely used alternative to ACR for that platform. Or the vendor supplied software.
As a side note I wonder if you can provide evidence to back up the claim that ACR is the most widely used converter. Given the free alternatives, I find this quote surprising.
So, if, in future, a manufacturer comes up with a novel sensor capable of producing unbeatable results but incompatible with ACR, you will refuse to review that camera because it makes your comparison inconsistent or there are many people out there using ACR!. What you are doing right now cannot be called a consistent comparison because a comparison must be fair in the first place. In this case, ACR demosaicing algorithm for X-Trans files is way off the track. There is no way to reach the amount of details produced by a converter like Photo Ninja or Irident Developer by using ACR no matter how much you increase Clarity and Sharpening. We are not asking you to change your converter for each and every new camera, but reviewers are expected to be open to novel technologies. Otherwise, photographers are doomed to use Bayer based sensors until ACR becomes smart enough to come up with proper demosaicing algorithms for new sensor designs.
@Michael Berg - Every survey I've ever seen (including one we conducted a few years back) put ACR out in front my a country mile. I've seen no data to suggest this has subsequently changed.
@helltormentor - For a start, I disagree that ACR is a long way off other converters, when it comes to X-Trans. Its initial attempts were a bit disappointing, but I think we've re-processed all the Raw files of X-Trans cameras with one of the more recent updates (I forget which, and when).
What we're doing is entirely consistent, regardless of whether you consider it fair. As soon as we change to an 'optimal' converter for one camera, we have to assess and test all cameras with a range of converters, to check that we're not disadvantaging them (an essentially endless task).
Yes, our approach presents problems for cameras that aren't supported by ACR at all (our old scene allowed us to isolate files, so that they could only be displayed on pages that explained their inconsistency).
Ultimately, though, any converter we choose (or any combination of converters), will be open to just as must criticism. This is the most meaningful and least bad compromise.
And the point you've ignored entirely is that we provide the files to allow everyone to draw their own conclusions, based on their own workflows.
@Butler I tried to find surveys online that showed the popularity of various raw converters. I couildn't find any. Frankly, a "couple of years" in terms of camera and software technology might as well be "a couple of hundred years".
ACR costs money, let's not forget that. With the CC cloud initiative you could end up paying $100+ per year to use ACR. Would a camera enthusiast pay for that, given the raw conversion software that comes with the camera is free to use? Now I agree that early vendor bundled raw software was lacking in quality but today? I seriously doubt that most people bother to get ACR when there are free or much cheaper alternatives readily available, and it takes something of an expert to tell the results apart.
My point is simply that there is good reason question a statement that broadly claims that "ACR is by far the most widely used raw converter". There's just no evidence to support that.
Thinking about it, if the camera vendor supplies a raw converter in the box, you should use that software. You shouldn't use ACR, because you can't simply assume people will buy ACR.
Not only would this give results showing what ordinary users can expect if they use the bundled software - which I think they will, it also gives manufacturers an incentive to include the best software they can because of the huge influence dpreview has on the community. You could actually do some good here.
Simply using ACR is the easiest solution for you, but it's not the best solution. I'm saying this with all due respect and with no other intent than to improve things for the better.
You want them to use Sillypix?
ACR is as good as any accross the board and like Richard says very common.
I suspect most normal users shoot OOC JPEG, but I rather suspect most DPR readers would use ACR (I think those normal usrs also se on camera flash and Auto mode)
You can assess for yourself if you want - again as Richard says, they provide the RAWs for those whose purpose in life is squeezing pixels.
And I thought I flogged dead horses.
@ jtan163, Since I thought this discussion was going nowhere, I wanted not to continue anymore but there is something that bothers me a lot. Butler implies, and you agree, since they provide the raw files and people can make their own conclusions, this method is fine. It is NOT. If you are the referee of a match, you cannot handcuff one team and let the other team win with ease, and simply say, people can make their own judgment afterwards. Of course you can do that but you will damage your credibility over time. I was also a LR user before getting my X-E1 and I was totally happy with the results I got from LR. But from that point on, I had to switch to another converter because it is different as night and day. What DPR does at the moment discourages manufacturers to come up with new sensor designs if they are not compatible with Adobe products.
It MUST be the other way around. RAW converter developers should com up with new dimosaicing algorithms compatible with new technologies not to stop exploring new horizons because Adobe doesn't like change. Bayer design dates back to 70s and it has reached its end I think. The only thing that manufactures do at present is put more pixels on it. Us, photographers, should be happy if a manufacturer comes up with something novel. I am not saying that everybody should switch to Fuji because it is new, but we should be able to see fair judgments on new products and make our decision.
@helltormentor - I didn't anywhere imply that our system is 'fine.' The phrase 'This is the most meaningful and least bad compromise.' states quite the opposite.
However, your analogy is flawed. It would be fairer to say that we make all contenders play a simple buy very popular game (say football/soccer), where some are slightly less familiar with the rules than others.
Your suggestion involves having to watch every contender play a range of sports, then show them playing the one we decide they're best at.
Everybody playing football pretty reasonably is more readily comprehensible than watching a field on which the referee has decided some players should play football, others should play grid iron, while others play a mixture of rugby league, rugby union and Aussie rules.
@R Butler - All your reasoning is based on a controversial assumption that ACR is "very popular" and " by far the most-used third-party Raw converter and it is central to many people's workflows". This is hard to accept without some persuasive evidence, especially, if you take into account all the expenses that a photographer should pay to use ACR these days. This money can easily be saved for essential photography equipment just by switching to a less expensive converter capable of producing the same results if not better.
This assumption of yours is a determining factor, because if it is not true, it make sens that photographers expect DPReview to switch to another converter which is as good as ACR when it comes to cameras based on Bayer sensor design and is also good for X-Trans files.
If you look at your forums, you will find people who are asking about water color effect visible on Fuji photos on your Scene Comparison page.
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One philosophical question that fascinates both Jack and Wanda is the nature of Love. Is Love a form of Natural Magic, perhaps a form of Natural Thinkamancy or Natural Hippiemancy? Jack believes that Love is a force which is far more powerful and mysterious than any form of magic. As he once told Wanda, "I suspect, love is something greater than magic itself, perhaps something even the Titans are helpless before."
Wanda and Jack's interest in this question was probably related to the fact that they were both deeply attracted to Jillian. Jack doesn't seem to have been angry or bitter that Jillian favored Wanda over him. Wanda made a point while in Faq of using Jack's full name and title, suggesting that she wished to maintain a certain degree of formality in her dealings with him.
Jack currently thinks that Wanda is a "vessel cracked worse (and repaired worse) than he," referring to Wanda's emotional and mental state, and may resent the fact that Wanda suggested allowing him to croak so that she could decrypt him. However, any concern he may have about her growing power didn't stop him from having some fun at Wanda's expense by pointing out that Jillian may now prefer Ansom over both Wanda and himself.
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Wish people would put TigerDirect in the topic, so those of us who have been screwed by their not paying rebates in the past wouldn't waste the time...
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yay they replied to my question http://www.makeupyourownmind.co.uk/questions/whats-in-the-food/beef/ its question two
this was once funny but is quickly degrading in quality. I speak for thunda too when I ask, "Who the hell keeps bumping this thread?"
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Planetary "hot spots" deemed sacred by some, and of spiritual importance to others, were visited by the curious, the meditating, the souvenir sellers, the ritualistic and the news crews on Friday, Dec. 21, 2012 in anticipation of a possible doomsday situation.
To the delight of many, the sun did on Friday what the sun does every Friday, time and time again, time zone after time zone.
All the while, the world continued to exist despite plentiful doomsday preditions tied to an interpretation of the conclusion of the 5,125-year Mayan calendar.
Some individuals of esoteric persuasion digested the day as the dawning of new age of consciousness. Some just celebrated still having their Earth. (See photos above)
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In an area of Mexico that was once the ancient Mayan heartland, spiritualists gathered in the darkness before dawn on Friday to prepare white clothes, drums, conch shells and incense. They believed the sunrise would herald the birth of a new and better age as a vast cycle in the Mayan calendar comes to an end.
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Some Serbs are saying to forget that sacred mountain in the French Pyrenees. The place to be Friday is Mount Rtanj, a pyramid-shaped peak in Serbia already drawing cultists.
According to legend, the mountain once swallowed an evil sorcerer who will be released on doomsday in a ball of fire that will hit the mountain top. The inside of the mountain will then open up, becoming a safe place to hide as the sorcerer goes on to destroy the rest of the world. In the meantime, some old coal mine shafts have been opened up as safe rooms.
On Friday a New Age group called "The Spirit of Rtanj" was holding a conference there. Participants, however, said they expect not the end of time but the start of a new time cycle. Locals turned out to sell brandy and herbs.
"There will be no tragedy, no doomsday," said resident Dalibor Jovic. "It was supposed to happen at 12:12 and I think that time has passed. So, we can now go on with our lives and be happy to be alive."
A small Turkish village known for its wines, Sirince, has also been touted as the only place after Bugarach that would escape the world's end. But on Friday journalists and security officials outnumbered cultists. This outcome disappointed local business people who had prepared a range of doomsday products to sell, including a specially labeled Doomsday wine and Turkish delight candy whose "best before" date was Dec. 21, 2012. One restaurant prepared a special "last meal" menu that included a "heaven kebab" and "forbidden fruit dessert."
Another spot said to be spared: Cisternino, a beautiful small town in southern Italy in an area of trulli, traditional dry stone huts with conical roofs. The notion that Cisternino could be a safe haven at world's end derives from an Indian guru, Babaji, who said "Cisternino will become an island" at world's end. His followers built a community in Cisternino centered on an ashram built in 1979. Hotel bookings are up this weekend.
Mayor Donato Baccaro told the AP that the beauty of the place has inspired many foreigners to live there. "This confirms that this place has a special energy," he said.
A fringe Christian group has been spreading rumors about the world's impending end, prompting Chinese authorities to detain more than 500 people this week and seize leaflets, video discs, books and other material.
Those detained are reported to be members of the group Almighty God, also called Eastern Lightning, which preaches that Jesus has reappeared as a woman in central China. Authorities in the province of Qinghai say they are waging a "severe crackdown" on the group, accusing it of attacking the Communist Party and the government.
Dozens of Michigan schools canceled classes for thousands of students to cool off rumored threats of violence and problems related to doomsday. The fears were exacerbated by the recent shooting at a Connecticut elementary school, which "changed all of us," the school system in Genesee County said. "Canceling school is the right thing to do."
It's over: A guide to the End of the World, Dec. 21
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A sky caiman vomits water on one of the last pages of the 12th-century Dresden Codex (also known as the Codex Dresdensis), one of four historic Mayan manuscripts that still exist in the world and that together suggest modern civilization will come to an end on December 21. The documents — at the Saxon State Library on November 8, 2012 in Dresden, Germany —enumerate the Mayan calendar, which will complete its 13th cycle on December 21, 2012 and many people across the globe are interpreting the calendar to mean impending global devastation and the birth of a new order are near.
A Mayan crocodile that lives in the sky and vomits water has suggested the end of the world will occur Dec. 21. That's Friday. You have been notified.
It has been said that when the galactic conjunction crosses the great cycle on the winter solstice during the completion of the 13th b'ak'tun at the end of the 5125-year long count calendar, Planet X will begin its dark approach, the Sun will flare Earth into geomagnetic reversal, and in backward precession we will welcome the dawning Age of Aquarius.
Zombies were just a red herring. If anything, this a hippie apocalypse.
Navigating ancient prophecy in modern-day Los Angeles is a deeply personal undertaking. One man's solstice is another man's doomsday. One woman's planetary alignment is another woman's revelation. But it doesn't matter how you tell the story. The ending is the same. The world as we know it is over. That inarguably happened last week. No one feels fine.


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