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CAN you be both the world's most brutal wielder of state terror and a fan of economic opening? Kim Jong Un, North Korea's ruler, appears to be having a go. Three months ago Mr Kim suddenly purged his immensely powerful uncle by marriage, Jang Sung …
North Korean election provides clues to reclusive Stalinist stateCNN
Report: North Korea to Execute 33 for Contact With MissionaryThe New American
China conveys 'deep concern' to North Korea at missile's proximity to aircraftIrish Times
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China draws 'red line' on North Korea, says won't allow war on peninsula – Reuters
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China draws 'red line' on North Korea, says won't allow war on peninsula
China is North Korea's most important diplomatic and economic supporter, though Beijing's patience with Pyongyang has been severely tested following three nuclear tests and numerous bouts of saber rattling, including missile launches. "The Korean …
China draws 'red line' on N. Korea, says won't allow chaosGlobalPost
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Passenger jet passed through trajectory of N. Korean rocket, South Korea says – CNN
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Passenger jet passed through trajectory of N. Korean rocket, South Korea says
Seoul, South Korea (CNN) — A Chinese passenger jet with more than 200 people on board flew through the trajectory of a North Korean rocket that had been fired minutes earlier, the South Korean government said. North Korea fired the rocket Tuesday at …
China voices 'deep concern' to North Korea over plane near-missReuters
North Korea Rejects Plans for More Family ReunionsNew York Times
Pentagon: North Korea develops unmanned strike aircraft from stolen US droneFox News
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Australian missionary deported from North Korea describes 13-day detention – The Guardian
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Australian missionary deported from North Korea describes 13-day detention
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An Australian missionary detained for 13 days in North Korea for trying to spread Christianity has said that he was interrogated for four hours a day and kept under 24-hour guard. North Korea deported John Short, 75, on Monday, saying he had apologised …
Australian missionary says North Korea interrogated him dailyFox News
Australia missionary describes North Korea detentionBBC News
US envoy still hopeful for missionary's release from North KoreaReuters
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South Korea investigating reports of new North Korea purge – Fox News
South Korea investigating reports of new North Korea purge
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The South Korean government is investigating reports that North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has purged the man widely believed to be the new power behind the dictatorial throne after Kim had his uncle deposed and executed late last year. Free North Korea …
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North Korea Tests Rocket Launcher With Range Beyond Seoul, South Says
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SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea on Tuesday tested a new multiple-rocket launcher with a range long enough to strike major American and South Korean military bases south of Seoul, South Korean military officials said. Four rockets were launched …
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North Korea frees Australian missionary
(CNN) — North Korea has freed John Short, a 75-year-old Australian missionary whom it detained last month. "The relevant organ decided to expel him from the territory of the DPRK, thanks to the tolerance of the law of the DPRK and in full …
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North Korea frees Australian Christian missionary
He was accused by Pyongyang of committing a crime by distributing tracts from the bible at a Buddhist temple in Pyongyang on Kim Jong Il's birthday, a national holiday in North Korea to mark the ruling dynasty's second leader. "I deeply apologize for …
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NASA images from space show North Korea shrouded in darkness
(CNN) — Give an astronaut on the International Space Station a digital camera and you're bound to end up with some astounding images — especially if they're flying above North Korea. When the space station passed over East Asia one night recently, …
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North Korea's Horrors 'Strikingly Similar' to Nazi Acts
Atrocities committed by North Korea against its own people are "strikingly similar" to those perpetrated by the Nazis during World War II, the head of a United Nations panel said Monday after publishing an unprecedented report. The year-long …
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China draws 'red line' on North Korea, says won't allow war on peninsula
China declared a "red line" on North Korea on Saturday, saying that China will not permit chaos or war on the Korean peninsula, and that peace can only come through denuclearization. China is North Korea's most important diplomatic and economic supporter, though Beijing's patience with Pyongyang has been severely tested following three nuclear tests and numerous bouts of saber rattling …
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China voices 'deep concern' to North Korea over plane near-miss
China has expressed its "deep concern" to North Korea after a Chinese airplane crossed the path of a rocket launched by the isolated state, China's foreign ministry said on Friday. On Thursday, South Korea's defense ministry said a Chinese civilian plane had "passed as the ballistic missile (from North Korea) was in the course of descending". The plane was flying from Tokyo's Narita airport to …
Posted on 7 March 2014 | 10:08 am
U.S. envoy still hopeful for missionary's release from North Korea
By David Brunnstrom WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The United States is still hopeful of securing the release of an American missionary being held in North Korea, the U.S. human rights envoy for the country said on Thursday, even though two trips he has had scheduled for the purpose have been canceled. Ambassador Robert King said there had been no progress on the Kenneth Bae case since his last trip was …
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Yes, There Are Elections in North Korea and Here's How They Work
North Korea will hold fair and open parliamentary elections this weekend, giving citizens a chance to decide which candidate will best represent their interests for the next five years. It's true that North Korea really is holding parliamentary elections this weekend, and, par for the course for that nation's politics, they're kind of horrifying. North Korean Government Kim Jong-un pointing …
Posted on 6 March 2014 | 4:59 pm
North Korea rejects South Korea's offer for family reunion talks
Seoul, March 6 (IANS) North Korea Thursday rejected South Korea's offer to hold talks between Red Cross officials to discuss the issue of regularly holding family reunions, Seoul's unification ministry said. Pyongyang sent a notice in the name of its Red Cross chairman Thursday morning, saying that the atmosphere was not yet right to hold working-level contacts between Red Cross officials to …
Posted on 6 March 2014 | 9:56 am
Australian missionary tells of daily N. Korea interrogations
An Australian missionary deported from North Korea has told of the gruelling interrogations he faced during his 13-day ordeal in the Stalinist state and the stress of being under constant watch. John Short, 75, flew out of Pyongyang on Monday to Beijing after he signed a detailed "confession" and apology after his arrest for distributing religious material in the North Korean capital. "This I …
Posted on 6 March 2014 | 2:00 am
Missionary says North Korea interrogated him daily
CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — An Australian missionary detained in North Korea for trying to spread Christianity said Wednesday he was interrogated for four hours a day and kept under 24-hour guard during his grueling 13-day investigation.
Posted on 5 March 2014 | 1:36 pm
N. Korean military defends missile tests
North Korea on Wednesday defended a recent series of missile and rocket tests as justifiable self-defence drills and hit back at "vicious" criticism of them by Seoul and Washington. The tests were largely seen as a calculated display of military muscle-flexing to reflect the North's anger over ongoing South Korea-US military exercises. In a statement carried by the North's official KCNA news …
Posted on 5 March 2014 | 1:18 pm
North Korea to Execute 33 Accused of Contacting Christian Missionary and Planning to 'Install Jesus Statue in Pyongyang'
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Posted on 5 March 2014 | 11:51 am
North Korea holds election, Kim Jong Un runs in legendary district
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Like sugar being converted into carbon dioxide in a batch of cinnamon roll dough, trouble has been fermenting in Denmark over the past few months. The metaphorical yeast behind the turmoil is an EU regulation limiting the use of cassia cinnamon - the most commonly used type of cinnamon - due to concerns about a naturally occurring compound called coumarin, which can cause liver damage when consumed in large quantities. The Danish government has moved to limit cinnamon rolls' cassia content to 15 milligrams per kilogram of dough - far less than is traditionally used by Danish bakers. Media outlets - including, most recently, Modern Farmer - have quoted outraged bakers ("[I]t's time to take a stand. Enough is enough") and struck fear into the hearts of kanelsnegle lovers. (The government may reclassify the cinnamon roll, allowing it a higher cinnamon quota, in February.)
In addition to terrifying cinnamon roll aficionados, the controversy has reignited one of the most annoying foodie tropes: The idea that there is a "real cinnamon," and that cassia is not it. One Atlantic commenter responded to the news of Denmark's impending cinnamon roll ban by giving Danish bakers some unsolicited advice: "Then use real cinnamon instead of cassia. They are two different species. Real cinnamon is more expensive, but it will get you around the reg." Several Redditors also chimed in to defend "real cinnamon" against imposters: "Tell the bakers to use real cinnamon and not that cheap cassia [expletive] then," read one typical comment.
I have news for these commenters and anyone who's ever trotted out the difference between cassia and "real cinnamon" as cocktail-party small talk: There's no such thing as "real cinnamon." Or, if you insist that there is, then cassia definitely qualifies as "real."
There are dozens of species of evergreen tree belonging to the genus Cinnamomum, and the bark of many of these species is cultivated and sold as cinnamon. Two of these species are relevant to this discussion: Cassia (Cinnamomum cassia), a Chinese native that you'll find in most grocery stores under the label cinnamon, and Ceylon cinnamon (Cinnamomum verum), a Sri Lankan variety that's much rarer and more expensive than cassia (though available online).
If you took Latin in high school, you will notice that Ceylon cinnamon's scientific name translates to "true cinnamon." It's a hop, skip and a jump from Cinnamomum verum to "real cinnamon." But it's a hollow term. Scientific names for plants are often arbitrary and metaphorical. White mustard, for instance, goes by the classification Sinapis alba, which translates as "bright mustard" or "favorable mustard," but no one goes around arguing that white mustard is better than brown mustard just because of its name. And yet people have insisted on taking Ceylon cinnamon's biological classification literally.
By no meaningful definition is Ceylon cinnamon more "real" than cassia. Both belong to the genus Cinnamomum. Both are ground into powders that can deliciously flavor cookies, yeast breads and tagines. Both have been used as spices (and medicine) for centuries. It's not as though cassia is some synthetic laboratory creation that's being nefariously passed off as natural. Cinnamomum cassia is a real plant.
Perhaps more importantly, if you live in the U.S. (or Denmark, apparently), virtually every single cinnamon-flavored thing you have ever tasted in your life has contained cassia, not Ceylon cinnamon. De facto, in 21st-century American kitchens, cassia is cinnamon, and cinnamon is cassia.
Now, this does not mean that Ceylon cinnamon doesn't taste better than cassia. Many people believe that it does, and their opinions are just as valid as any other opinion concerning taste. The fact that cassia is just as real as Ceylon cinnamon also doesn't nullify any health concerns about cassia: For your liver's sake, you should probably not be consuming enormous quantities of it.
But please stop insisting that Ceylon cinnamon is the only "real" cinnamon. All that label does is make people who like cassia feel that their preferences are somehow inauthentic. And that's a real shame.
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Recently, an article appeared on Salon, entitled "Why I Can't Stand White Belly Dancers." Written by Randa Jarrar, the article pulled me in different directions.
I admit that my first reaction was negative–not because I am much of a belly dancer myself (although I admit that I love trying to learn, and I've engaged in some YouTube binge-watching of Fifi Abdo clips), but because of the immediate implication that brownness is the qualifier for Arab-ness. I know Jarrar isn't trying to pursue this line of thinking intentionally, but as a woman who is always told that her husband "doesn't look Saudi at all," it never fails to rub me the wrong way.
When I was still in the States, more than once I had acquaintances respond with surprise when they first met my husband, saying something along the lines of, "I expected him to be this big, dark Arab guy…but he's nice and funny!" I was always taken quite aback by this–what was I supposed to say? "Oh no, he's not dark and scary, he's short, white, and non-threatening!" I mean, what if he had been a "big, dark Arab guy"? Does that mean he couldn't have been nice and funny? Every time this happened, it always brought to my mind Noam Chomsky's words about anti-Arab racism, in that it has "long been extreme, the last 'legitimate' form of racism in that one doesn't even have to pretend to conceal it." It's so true. Would any of those people had the audacity to say, "I expected him to be this big, dark Mexican guy, but he's really nice!" Or "I expected him to be this big, dark Black guy, but he's super funny!" How would any of that have been okay? But just throw in the word "Arab," and no one hesitates to flaunt their racism. When it comes to racism, it's open season on Arabs, which, perhaps, is why belly dancing has flown under the appropriation radar for so long.
Furthermore, my kid is white. I mean, that's just the truth of the matter; unless she chooses to wear an abaya and niqab everywhere she goes when she grows up, and unless there's a whole lot of attitude change in a whole lot of places, it's unlikely that anyone is going to look at her and immediately think she's Saudi. So if she and Randa Jarrar somehow end up at the same Arabic wedding one of these days, should she sit and not dance, lest the Randa Jarrars of the world scoff at that white girl out on the dance floor trying to "play at brownness"? I certainly hope not, and implications, whether intentional or otherwise, that my child is not really Arab will always infuriate me, as will any implications that she's somehow not really American.
But I know that those knee-jerk connections I made in my head were not directly related to the issue that Jarrar was trying to tackle in her piece, and all that being said, I think she brings to light many of the ways that non-Arab women belly dancing is problematic, and the responses to her piece that have cropped up are, in my opinion, exponentially more wrongheaded than the original piece was. The Washington Post published a rebuttal by Eugene Volokh, entitled "What Would Salon Think of an Article Called 'Why I Can't Stand Asian Musicians Who Play Beethoven'?", which left me shaking my head at how the dude just does not get it.
I'd like to run with that Beethoven analogy, but first, let me relate an anecdote from my childhood with connection to classical music. When I was in seventh grade, my music teacher showed us the movie Amadeus. At twelve years old, I found this film mind-numbingly boring and frankly, pretty stupid. However, there is one scene which I remember vividly (and I think I remember it vividly because I was dozing off at the time and it startled me awake). Mr. Mozart was sitting at a keyboard and was dutifully plugging away at a classical piece, and as he finished it, he hopped up off the bench, bent over, pulled his coat up, and farted raucously toward the crowd watching him.
I share that story for this reason: if an Asian classical musician performed under a stage name like Wolfgang von Hamburger, always performed wearing skintight breeches and a frilly white shirt complete with ascot, refused to go onstage without a huge white powdered wig on his head, and ended each performance by leaping up and farting to the crowd in honor of Mozart, then that musician will have done something similar to what many non-Arab women have done with belly dancing.
Now, should non-Arab women be somehow banned from belly dancing? Of course not, and I think the implication that they should is what infuriated so many about Jarrar's original piece, because, understandably, it struck people as incredibly racist, and as I've already discussed, we're moving toward a point where we're generally ready to call out racism as long as it's not directed toward Arabs. But there is a way to appreciate and participate in a culturally-based art without bastardizing and appropriating it, and with the stage names, the ridiculous costumes, the over-the-top makeup…well, it's really hard to deny that belly dancing, at least as a form of dance in the West, has a lot of work to do on the non-appropriation front. Just look at that article about stage names that I linked to. Arabic women do not have "goddess names" that magically make them "empowered, enchanting, exotic, ethereal, mysterious, and theatrical." But they do have, you know, names.
Furthermore, it strikes me as very odd and sad that belly dancing–or at least, the West's Orientalized version of it–is the only element of Arabic culture that the West is so on board with. Anything else related to Arabic culture is generally regarded as scary and threatening, or "shorthand for barbarism," as G. Willow Wilson discusses beautifully in this piece. It seems to me like the appropriative manner in which some Western women embrace belly dancing will feel a bit less racist when the average American dude is clamoring for kabsa for lunch and rocks a shmagh and igal for a much-anticipated date on a Saturday night (instead of thinking that a belt and a dish towel are the core elements of a hilarious Arab-centric Halloween costume).
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A soft breeze whipped around Nationals Park on Monday afternoon, a seemingly idyllic day where the sun splashed down upon the lush green canvas. Stephen Strasburg worked from the bullpen mound under the watchful eye of pitching coach Steve McCatty. Others played catch in right field.
But this was anything but an idyllic day.
The flags in center field were raised only to half-staff, and sirens blared constantly from the streets surrounding the ballpark. Police, who had a heavy presence on the ballpark's perimeter, checked identification badges just to turn onto specific streets in the area.
Any sense of normalcy was shattered just after 8 a.m. Monday morning when at least 13 people were killed, with others wounded, in the shootings at the Naval Sea Systems Command Headquarters at the Washington Navy Yard. The building sits mere blocks from Nationals Park.
"It's really scary," said Washington Nationals right-hander Dan Haren, who was scheduled to pitch Monday night. "It's scary just what one person or two people can do, how many lives they can affect.
"We're just seeing too many of these things happen. It's so unfortunate. ... You just never know when, [and] you never know why."
In light of the tragedy, the Nationals postponed their 7:05 p.m. game against the Atlanta Braves and scheduled a split doubleheader with separate admission for Tuesday at 1:05 p.m. and 7:05 p.m. The ribbon atop the team's website read simply, and chillingly, that the game was "Postponed: Tragedy."
"It's a very emotional day," said Nationals general manager Mike Rizzo, who worked with federal and local law enforcement, along with Major League Baseball, to decide how to proceed once news of the shooting came to light.
"An extremely horrific act happened very near to the ballpark, [to] our neighbors at the Navy Yard. Our thoughts and prayers go out to all the victims over there and all of the people affected by this. We felt it was inappropriate to play a major league baseball game with such tragedy right down the street."
Haren said he awoke to the news in a text message from his mother, and players spent much of the day communicating about whether or not a game would be played. They hoped it would not.
"Kind of the general consensus was that we really didn't want to play, just out of respect for the families and everyone involved," Haren said.
Many Braves players loaded onto the team buses from their hotel in Pentagon City around 1:30 p.m., even though they did not know at that time whether or not they'd be playing a game.
"We got on the bus at 1:30 and we were all still wondering 'Why are we getting on the bus?'" said Braves reliever Scott Downs. "Baseball, I think, was the last thing on everybody's mind. ... I think the last thing anybody wanted to do was come to the ballfield."
Haren arrived at the ballpark around 2 p.m., roughly two hours earlier than he normally would on a day he pitches, in hopes the game would indeed be postponed and he would get his routine throwing in. Several others did the same, though with a heavy feeling. Many sent out tweets conveying their thoughts and prayers to the victims.
"Baseball obviously has to go on at some point," Haren said. "But it'd probably be a little too quick tonight to try to come in here, have fans come in here, and try to get up for a baseball game because of how bad everyone feels about what happened."
Monday morning, the Nationals readily allowed authorities to use their Lot B parking garage on South Capitol and N Streets as an area for Navy Yard family members to reunite in the aftermath of the shootings. The team was "thrilled," to be able do so, Nationals spokesman John Dever said.
"For us to do our part was easy," Dever said.
The team did not postpone the game until just after 3 p.m., though, after most Nationals players and many Braves players and personnel had already arrived at the stadium. The decision took that long to make because of the complex nature of the issues involved and "the immense coordination that it takes to make these decisions with federal and local authorities," Rizzo said. "It's just a timely process."
But the feeling of Nationals ownership, as more details about the tragedy continued to emerge, was always that playing any game would be inappropriate.
In a statement released by the team, the Nationals said the "safety of our fans is our utmost priority. ... The Nationals security personnel will continue to work closely with all levels of law enforcement to reinforce the already high level of security in place at Nationals Park, and to ensure that our visitors always have a safe experience."
Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said postponing the game was the "right call."
"You wouldn't know you're in the United States," said Gonzalez. "Stuff like this shouldn't happen in the United States, but it does. More and more."
From a baseball standpoint, Haren will pitch in the first game of the doubleheader on Tuesday, against Mike Minor. Atlanta's Freddy Garcia will face Nationals right-hander Tanner Roark in the nightcap.
"I know it's really only a 15- or 16-hour delay in the game," Haren said. "We'll still be thinking about it tomorrow.
"But, this is our job and we're going to have to try to come out and play and try to win a baseball game, as inconsequential as that may seem. We're going to have to come out and do our jobs."
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Gov. Bob McDonnell offers soft praise for Pres. Obama
Washington (CNN) — Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell of Virginia on Sunday partially credited President Barack Obama's policies with his state's relatively low unemployment rate, but also said the figure would be better with a President Mitt Romney.
The Romney backer said stimulus programs supported by the president helped his state in the short-term with health care, education and balancing the budget but would not help cut the unemployment rate long-term.
The national policies had "some impact," McDonnell said on CNN's "State of the Union," but "think of how much better we'd do if we had President Romney."
For the past year, the Old Dominion's unemployment rate, which the latest figures show is at 5.6%, has sat 2 or 3 points below the national average. The May jobs report indicated the national unemployment rate rose to 8.2%.
McDonnell credited economic development and targeted tax cuts supported by both political parties in the presidential battleground state for the rate, but predicted the figure would be lower without energy policies bolstered by the president.
"If we hadn't had all these attacks on Virginia's energy industry, we'd be in a lot better shape," McDonnell told CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley. "We'd be lower on the unemployment rate if we didn't have these policies."
McDonnell, who is often mentioned as a potential vice presidential pick for Romney, slightly dodged a question about whether Team Romney asked for papers from the former Virginia attorney general to enable a vetting process.
"They've asked for my schedule to see where I can help him next, and it's going to be in Virginia. That's it," McDonnell said. "I'll leave that up to Mitt Romney, but I'm going to help him win Virginia."
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JIM LEHRER: Now, a matching pair of Israeli and Palestinian views. Avraham Burg is speaker of the Israeli Knesset, he's a member of the Labor Party, which is part of the coalition government. Nabil Sha'ath is minister of planning and international cooperation in the Palestinian National Authority; he's been an adviser to Yasser Arafat for 30 years.
Speaker Burg, how would you describe the state of the cease-fire right now?
AVRAHAM BURG: Very fragile if at all. I take it both sides are very frustrated from the situation and the very… coming visit of Secretary Powell is a very important one because the feeling we are having at least from the Israeli side is that President Bush is sending his highest diplomat to the region to draw a line in the sand that will be a very clear line. There is a coalition which is the peace coalition, the American oriented coalition which really wants to cease the fire, to cool off the violence and to resume peace talks.
And the question mark over the head of Yasser Arafat is a very simple one. Chairman Arafat, where you belong, do you belong to the Israeli-Egyptian-Jordanian-American-oriented peace coalition. Or are you part of bin Laden coalition? It's a very clear and important question in the region. And the litmus papers of the cease-fire will prove the real intention of Yasser Arafat and the Palestinian leadership.
JIM LEHRER: Mr. Sha'ath, is that the question?
NABIL SHA'ATH: No, I don't think that is the only question. Mr. Arafat is dedicated to make this peace process work. But there is also a question that has to be addressed to Mr. Sharon. Does he want to keep his tanks and his checking points mutilating the Palestinian territories or does he want to keep his siege, his collective punishment of the Palestinian people on? Does he expect that his seven-month activities will continue going on while he asks for a cease-fire? I think there is a responsibility from the two sides. It's ridiculous to say that the problem is only Mr. Arafat's. He is the leader of a people, of an occupied country. Israel is the occupation army.
JIM LEHRER: Is it your position, Mr. Sha'ath, that Mr. Arafat is doing all he can do to maintain the cease-fire?
NABIL SHA'ATH: He is doing all he can do given the present circumstances. He, his army has been, his police has been decimated. His — the residence has been destroyed. All our police stations have been destroyed and his policemen cannot even go from one area to the other. Their mobility is totally restricted by the Israeli army. We have only 18 percent of the West Bank under our control. The rest is under Israeli control.
JIM LEHRER: Mr. Burg, is the Israeli government doing all it can do to maintain the cease-fire?
AVRAHAM BURG: No doubt and I wonder how Mr. Sha'ath whom I really appreciate and admire as one of the pivotal… of the pivots and the champions of peace really can come with this kind of argument because knows Mr. Sha'ath as well as so many others that the Israeli government after a couple of very tragic, painful bombers, suicidal bombers killed our kids, my children and the children of others. The Israeli government led by Ariel Sharon adopted a policy of controlling our passion, of containing our anger, of retaining our retaliation which is so legitimate… but we said no.
Peace is so important for us and we did what Yasser Arafat did not do. Mr. Sha'ath is an adviser to the Chairman Arafat, and I ask you, Nabil, my friend, tell me, we are members of this coalition. The impact that myself and Shimon Peres and my friends are having on Ariel Sharon to change his policy and to have this unilateral, no military initiative, this is an impact. What is your impact on Yasser Arafat? Why didn't you arrest all the terrorists in the streets? Why didn't you stop incitement? It will never take off if you won't take the first step.
JIM LEHRER: Mr. Sha'ath?
NABIL SHA'ATH: We have taken the first step and President Arafat has made it very clear in solemn declaration and commitment to a cease-fire. Given very limited resources and very limited mobility, he is trying his best. I appreciate very much your role Mr. Burg, not — not now but for a very long time as the leader of a peace camp in Israel and as a man of highest integrity. I believe that we, both of us have to do our duty. You are trying very much to keep Mr. Sharon under restraint. President Arafat is doing the same to keep restraint in a whole society which is suffering from a very difficult situation.
JIM LEHRER: What — let's take a specific here. Mr. Burg just mentioned the arrest of the militants. That is also, the spokesman for the cabinet made the same point yesterday. Why have you not done more?
NABIL SHA'ATH: Because, like Mr. Burg who is himself a democrat and a real person who is after implication and implementation of the law and the right of human beings to fair trial. That the line between saving humans lives and saving human rights should not be trespassed without cause. You cannot just go about arresting people without a minimum amount of information about their potential guilt. Otherwise you will be totally trespassing on human rights. If come and you tell me somebody is planning an action tomorrow, yes, I could prevent the action from happening. I'll arrest him first and then look into the papers next. But if you tell me just as somebody who might have done something in the past, who does not pose a threat now, I need a little bit more proof about his guilt.
JIM LEHRER: Mr. Burg?
AVRAHAM BURG: Mr. Sha'ath is a bit of a surprising position I must tell you. As one really fully dedicated to the civil rights and human rights in Israel and all around the world and I take it that in the Palestinian Authority there are some, some room for improvement in this field. I ask you very simple question: What about rearresting all of these terrorists that were in Palestinian jails only couple of months ago after you processed them through the due process?
You released them because of political reasons. Rearrest them based on the previous accusation you had on them, and then deal with the others. But actually it is not a question of illegal positioning. Neither yours nor ours. It's a very simple thing, Mr. Sha'ath. You know as well as I do that Yasser Arafat takes his decisions alone, and you have unfortunately very little influence on him and you know how much influence we have on our own Ariel Sharon.
And the very simple question I ask: Where is the Palestinian peace camp? Where are your peace activists talking, not outside to the western world, not here in Washington or New York? What are you saying in Nablus, what are you saying in Gaza? When will you stop the incitement? This is the real question. Don't talk to me from the Western side of your mouth; talk to me from the inner territory side of your mouth, then I'll be really convinced that you mean business.
JIM LEHRER: Mr. Sha'ath?
NABIL SHA'ATH: Mr. Burg, this very interesting conversation is required at a much closer ground. We need to sit and talk together. I don't really accept your accusation that we talk with a forked tongue. Otherwise that accusation belongs to many more quarters than ours. What I think we are after is that we want to stop that conflagration — that confrontation and go back to the peace table. We are the occupied people and I wonder if you really have looked at the way our people are suffering under your siege.
And civilians who have nothing to do with the fighting are paying a heavy price. 80 percent of the people in Gaza and 60 percent of the people in the West Bank are unemployed. And we have a situation of grave danger to the continuation of our people. You have to consider that very seriously before making condemnation of who is at blame. I don't think that what matters is who is at blame now. What matters is that we together should put a stop to this violence and move to end the growth of settlements and move back into making negotiations on the ground and we should cooperate in doing that. And we are ready.
JIM LEHRER: Mr. Sha'ath, what about the role now of Secretary of State Powell? What does the Palestinian Authority want him to do next week?
NABIL SHA'ATH: We would like Mr. Powell when he is going to the area to make sure a timeline is put, a time schedule to implement the whole of the Mitchell report and not only…
JIM LEHRER: Not just the cease-fire.
NABIL SHA'ATH: Well, the cease-fire needs to be sustained. That's what Mr. Mitchell says. Mr. Mitchell says you have to start with the cease-fire but if you want to sustain it you have to have a freeze on settlement and a return to the political process. That is what Mitchell says. And we accepted Mitchell all together without reservations. I'd like Mr. Powell to see to it that the timeline is put, that as we are stopping our fire the Israelis too will start putting their tanks and ending their siege of the people, of the civilian people. That Mr. Powell gives a sign of his continued engagement together with that coalition of peace that also includes Europe, which has tried its best to help in the past period. This is important because this will give assurance to the two parties. We want him to give hope to both people.
JIM LEHRER: And he can do that?
NABIL SHA'ATH: He can because the role America plays and because of the personal trust that people in our country and in Israel also have in him.
JIM LEHRER: Mr. Burg, how do you see the role for Secretary Powell next week?
AVRAHAM BURG: From a rhetorical point of view, I almost fully agree with Nabil Sha'ath about the potential ability of secretary of state — which I've met the day before yesterday for a very long discussion about these issues — to introduce or reintroduce hope into the region. But I hope that calling Colin Powell while coming with his military experience, with his personal integrity and with his full commitment to the value system that all of us democratic people really believe in, I hope he will succeed to persuade the Palestinians that bombs and shootings cannot be part of the democratic process.
JIM LEHRER: What about –
AVRAHAM BURG: When I have closures in some of the places and in most of the places the closure was raised, it is only in places in which the local Palestinians do not obey to the instructions that maybe they got, maybe they did not get from Yasser Arafat, and therefore, they endanger my children. As long as my children will be in danger and threat by local terrorists, my army will defend them. That is the role of the army. The minute the Palestinians will say — and I'd love to hear Yasser Arafat, not Nabil Sha'ath, deliver it from the uniformed the leader himself — stand up and say, no more war, no more blood shed, I would like him to say like Ariel Sharon, I, Yasser Arafat, unilaterally stop the fire. Then we go back to the table and processing…
JIM LEHRER: What is Yasser Arafat's rhetorical response to that sort of challenge from Mr. Burg?
NABIL SHA'ATH: Mr. Arafat has done a unilateral unconditional immediate cease-fire in the presence of Mr. Fischer, the foreign minister of Germany, and Mr. Terry Larson, representative of the United Nations secretary… Mr. Kofi Annan.
AVRAHAM BURG: How come we bury so many of our kids, Nabil? Nabil, how come with this unilateral cease-fire we buried so many of our kids?
JIM LEHRER: Let him finish please. Go ahead.
NABIL SHA'ATH: We have buried a lot of our kids too. And your settlers are going on a rampage in the West Bank, burning and destroying every where in the presence of the — let me finish, in the…
JIM LEHRER: One at a time. Gentleman, one at a time or this isn't going to work. All right. Let's go.
AVRAHAM BURG: … a place for kids to be happy….
JIM LEHRER: Mr. Sha'ath, go ahead and finish please.
NABIL SHA'ATH: I don't think this blaming game plays any advantage with the great imparity of power between us and the great imparity of difference between being occupier and being occupied. We are the party that needs security as much as your people need it. And we are a party without security whatsoever. And under the full control of your army and your settlers. I'm not in any way shirking my responsibility.
I think we have also a responsibility to do our best. But you are in the powerful position of taking control of our economy, of all our movement, of all our people. Be fair. You also have to do things to create that peace, that hope among the Palestinian people so that they will be in a consensus supporting Arafat's further actions to consolidate the peace process.
JIM LEHRER: Mr. Burg, do you give any sympathy for that position?
AVRAHAM BURG: But of course, but of course, I mean, I'm the one who belongs for so many years to the peace camp in Israel because I believe that occupation corrupts, it corrupts the occupier and it corrupts the occupied. But a situation changed dramatically since Oslo and on. 80 percent of the Palestinians are under the sovereignty of Yasser Arafat and the Palestinian Authority. We speak here about land and not about people. Land is to be negotiated — not to be keeled over by terrorists who try to veto the peace process. A minute Jim. Just one minute with your permission.
JIM LEHRER: Yes, sir.
AVRAHAM BURG: And here comes a very, very important segment of this. Ehud Barak a couple of months ago — who was the most reconciliatory prime minister ever — offered the Palestinian 97 percent of the land and the rest was under debate. Instead of hearing what is the Palestinian alternative, what is the positive response, what are their reservations and motions, we heard shootings. This is not a very persuasive democratic argument I will say. We should process it differently.
JIM LEHRER: Mr. Sha'ath, do the Palestinians assume any responsibility for the failure of that, of that, of the — of that having not worked? I mean, Mr. Barak did offer this and it didn't happen and the Israelis always say this, what is the Palestinian response to that?
NABIL SHA'ATH: Mr. Barak offered in Camp David something totally different from what he offered in Tabba. In Camp David we were talking at best at annexing 15 percent of the West Bank, and leaving us 85 percent of the West Bank, which is altogether 22 percent of the whole area of Palestine upon which Israel has started and then occupied the rest of the West Bank and Gaza. Between Camp David and Tabba there were improvements. Until it reached the 94 percent plus 3 percent swap — which would have given 97 percent of the area occupied in 1967.
Camp David had absolutely nothing offered on the refugees, nothing serious offered on Jerusalem as the capital of the coming state of Palestine and the state of Israel, East and West Jerusalem within the system we had agreed. In Camp David as well as in Tabba, Israel wanted to keep at least in Tabba eight military bases in the Jordan River, wanted to continue full control of the skies of the Palestinian state; wanted borders without any real sovereignty to the Palestinian state.
There were some things we found acceptable, there were things that we needed to renegotiate. Mr. Barak tried to impose a "take it or leave it" to our proposition in Camp David which we could not have taken. But we should have continued. In Tabba we were not responsible. In Tabba Mr. Burg himself felt that it's immoral to sign a peace in Tabba when there was a week after that and elections were going to be. We were not the party that delayed Tabba.
JIM LEHRER: Going from here now, from this point on, Mr. Sha'ath, you first, and then to you, Mr. Burg. Is it impossible for the two sides, you two — I don't mean you two individuals — to work this out by yourselves, is it always going to require the United States and the Europeans and whatever?
NABIL SHA'ATH: I negotiated with Amnon Shahak in 1993-94 alone the Gaza-Jericho agreement without intervention not once from the United States or any party. When there was trust between the two parties, when the late Yitzhak Rabin led Israel and was a real partner in the peace of the… with President Arafat, it was possible. I think it's still possible. In Tabba we were alone, the Americans were not in Tabba. But we've got to extricate ourselves from the position we are in now. We have to get away from the abyss into negotiations again.
JIM LEHRER: Mr. Burg, I don't hear a lot of trust here from either of you.
AVRAHAM BURG: There will be trust because peace is between… with enemies who later on should become friends. A couple of days ago I talked to my daughter. And we spoke about peace and she told me, daddy, you must understand it is much more difficult to be hopeful after you disappointed then being hopeful before you are disappointed. And at least from the Israeli point of view, I take it from humanitarian point of view, from the Palestinian side as well, people are disappointed.
Now it's upon us, the leaders, to look inside ourselves and say are we ready to make an historic compromise with our dreams? And after I compromise my dream, I can come out and talk to the other side. You know, at this time of the year, after nine months that we feel on the receiving side and I do not want to underestimate the frustration and the anger at the Palestinian side because there are angry and because they are frustrated. I really feel for it.
But still over 60 percent of the Israelis are ready to make painful compromises in order to achieve peace. This is the human ground and the popular vote for making peace. I'm not at all sure that as for now we have 60 percent of the Palestinian, Nabil Sha'ath's people, who are ready to make peace. If there are 60 percent like this on their side, so all of us and all of them will make it better for the children of us all.
JIM LEHRER: Is there 60 percent?
NABIL SHA'ATH: We have that majority. And we are ready to continue to reach for peace.
JIM LEHRER: Thank you both very much.
AVRAHAM BURG: Thank you very much.