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Important: RESTART Sins of a Solar Empire after activating the mod. This will avoid a common mini-dump after starting a game. If the game mini-dumps attempting to deactivate the mod (i.e. similar issue), then delete the EnabledMods.txt in your rebellion mod folder.
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Sins of the Fallen: Fall of Kobol
A Battlestar Galactica mod for Sins of the Solar Empire
Release Date: TBD
NOTICE: This fan based modification is completely unofficial and is in no way endorsed or affiliated with Syfy(formally Sci-Fi), NBC, Universal Studios, Relic, Sierra, Aspyr, Stardock or Ironclad Games. All trademarks, logos, sounds, and video are the property of their respective owners. This fan based modification is strictly non-commercial and may not be used for any commercial purposes!
* This mod uses some assets from Sins of the 13th Tribe (credit will be listed in the readme when released).
Quick synopsis
This mod introduces the colonial and cylon factions to the Sins of the Fallen universe. Both races will be playable with any of the planets, addons, and races included in Sins of the Fallen including the stock races. Both the colonial and cylon's factions will be balanced against the stock factions to support this approach.
Colonial Fleet
Relying on heavily armored and armed ships the colonial fleet is always on the defense looking for cylon incursions. Lacking shields of any kind Battlestar Point Defense systems are used to intercept incoming weapons and minimize damage to nearby frigates and cruisers supporting the fleet.
Defense Forces - You believe disagreements can be resolved politically. You are more likely to build alliance with the majority of factions making it easier to reach cease fires and pacts. Your Titan is more defensive and able to act as a mobile fleet command when needed.
Separatists - You believe all Cylons are Toasters and can't be trusted. You also have a anti-Xeno bigotry that extends to all non-human factions. Your Titan is heavily offensive capable of inflicting mass damage.
Cetus class Titanstar
Doctrine: Hardliner
Abilities: She Won't Fail Us, Flak Shells, Maison Radiation Sweeps, Authorize nuclear barrage, Blaze of Glory
Jupiter class Titanstar
Doctrine: Reformist
Abilities: Load Nuclear Ordinance, Flak Shells, Instant Build Fighters, Vetern Pilots, Fleet CIC
Gallactica/Columbia class Battlestar
Abilities: Colonize, Flak Shells, Non-Integrated Computers, Nuclear Defense
Pegasus/Mercery class Battlestar
Abilities: Authorize Medium Yield, Flak Shells, Repair Teams, Expanded Hangar Facilities
Thor class Battlestar
Abilities: Authorize Low Yield, Flak Shells, Enhanced Armor, Scramble Raptors
Valkyrie class Battlestar
Abilities: Electro-magnetic Pulse, Flak Shells, Stealth Recon, Scramble Vipers
Nova class Battlestar
Abilities: Authorize High Yield, Flak Shells, Virtual Intelligence, Rapid Manufacturing
Cygnus class Gunstar
Abilities: Electro-magnetic Burst, Incendiary Rounds, High Explosive Warheads, Micro Jump
Cylon Armada
Cylon Colony
Abilities: Total Atmospheric Expulsion, Organic Armor, Resurrect Basestar, Logic Bomb
Squads: Raider, Heavy Raider
Cylon Boomer
Abilities:Super Virus, Organic Armor, Nuclear Barrage, Spawn Raiders
Squads:Raider, Heavy Raider
Resurrection Ship
Abilities: Research Facilities, Weapons Virus, Resurrect Strikecraft, Resurrect Crew
Cylon Worldstar
Abilities: Boarding Troops, Organic Armor, Expanded Hangar, Infiltration
Cylong Basestar
Abilities: Disorientation Virus, Organic Armor, Low Yield Nukes, Advanced Hybrid
Cylon Guardian MkI
Abilities: Lockdown Virus, Organic Armor, Cylon Infiltrator, FTL Virus
Cylon Guardian MKII
Abilities: High Yield Nuke, Organic Armor, Heavy Fallout, Subversion
Thx, I watched the first two seasons of the re-imagined BSG and know they are on Netflix (currently watching the Star Trek runs). Thanks for the rest of the info.
I used to watch TOS during the Thanksgiving Day marathon every year back in the 90's, and I couldn't really get into TRS, because of all of the switching around things and the "gritty at each others throats" drama.
That was also what turned me off about SGU, with its same brand of drama just with more planets, that didn't really feel like SG1 and SGA. The fact that SGU killed the new SG1 and SGA movies with its cancellation sure hasn't helped its reputation with me either.
I really enjoyed TOS, but the re-imagined series was something my wife and I both enjoyed. She's also a fan of SG1 and SGA but neither of us cared too much for SGU. It's a shame really because it could have been done SO much better.
Ya, was having a bit of fun with my response... Everyone should know of Netflix (*cough* Qwikster) by now.
Really, I've mainly been pounding for images lately to texture or re-texture some of what kyogre12 had or looking to pull in publicly released models like from Coxxon (some of which were already in the mod).
Looking Great. Can't wait to play this mod. I am a huge bsg fan. I grew up with Tos but really though the reimagen version was very good. Btw BBC America is showing the new version on sat.
Wow... I can't believe how good this is looking.... you're doing such a good job ZombieRus5...
Looks amazing, I recently marathon-ed TRS of BSG and thought that it was one of the best pieces of entertainment I have seen in my life. A shame that the Sy Fy channel isn't a Sci Fi channel anymore. I am anxiously awaiting a Diplomacy release of this mod, So Say We All!
Thanks guys.
Here's a new texture made by me for the original long range frigate from Sot13t. I've also added some turrets from the Asgard battlestar which I think adds a lot to the ship. I'm calling it Alberio from Wolf's shipyard to differentiate it from the Cygnus right now.
Another update:
* Not all battlestars are capital ships
Um why Thor is so small?? It was based on ship that's actually bigger than Galactica. But the scale is your chose...
I will live with that
I hadn't really scaled much yet. I plan on making a few passes to try and get things looking good and help with pathing.
Overall these are the ships I plan on using for the main Colonial fleet (though I have a new texture for the Nova class thats tagged Prometheous in that picture).
Ok, found a decent way to texture the Nova class model.
Also, spruced up the texture and uv-map for a Tiger class strikestar...
Forgive my ignorance.... but I'm assuming that the Thor is the most powerful Battlestar?
They all look sooooo awesome!!! You've done such a great job.
What will you work on next? Ragnar Anchorage?
Well, I can't really find any information on the Thor other than it's relationship to the Warstar Thor variation on Wolf's Shipyard. I have it classified as a Battleship role though for the Sins AI and plan to make all the Capital class Battlestars fairly strong.
Actually Thor is based on:
Battlestar Andraste
Battlestar Eternal
Battlestar Nova
Battlestar Poseidon
Battlestar Prometheus
Battlestar Titan
From Wolf's shipyard, and thanks him for so many good concepts.
and it first name was Python, but Kyogre don't like the name so Thor is it.
And it have
6 gun, 4 rocket launcher, 2 archer artillery to front;
14 gun, 4 rocket launcher and some flak to left/rightand 24 nuclear rocket launcher on top of head
Thanks for the background on the Thor. I think I'll keep the name in honor of Kyogre.
Not sure on the Archer Artillery but it could work as an ability with the current ships limit to 3 weapons.
On scaling here's what I'm working on using 1 kilometer as the standard scale.
Battlestar Asgard Unknown
Battlestar Valkyrie ~1.3k (Battlestar Wiki) or ~.9k (Wolf's shipyard)
Battlestar Galactica ~1.4k
Battlestar Pegasus ~1.7k
Battlestar Thor ~2.2k (Same size as Andraste)
Battlestar Nova ~2.5k
Gunstar Cygnus ~.9k
Gunstar Alberio ~.9k
Gunstar Sentinal ~1.1k
Support Moebius Flattop Unknown
Heavy Constructor Unknown
Gunstar Tiger ~1.4k
Strikestar Eurytion ~.35k
Gunstar Defender ~1.1k
Skirmishtar Vigilant ~.8k
Escortstar Berzerk ~1.3k
Olympic Carrier ~.22k
Colonial One ~.04k
Gemnon Traverl ~.06k
Colonial Movers ~.27k
Fighter Raptor ~8-10 meters
Zephyr ~1.2k
I'm currently using a boundary radius of 200 to approximate 1 kilometer and then scaling the ships using the above values. I may however use a different seed factor (possibly smaller for frigates/cruisers and larger for capitals) to apply the scale with based on looks and pathing issues. First step is to get sizing in place and play around with the game some.
Any chance on seeing the classis battlestars? u knw from the old old shows plz X3
The scale's sound about right.. The models look awesome! Keep up the great work Z.
Thanks, the scaling took a small bit of research as it's spread out across a few resources.
Hopefully the large size of BSG ships won't cause too much issues with pathing, otherwise I'll be happy to change the seed factor.
On the side, I'm probably going to release what I've done up to this point as soon as I get the icons sorted. It's horribly unbalanced right now, but it's fun playing with the Battlestars. It will only be an unfinished Beta but I'm really not that concerned given this is being done for fun.
It's horribly unbalanced right now, but it's fun playing with the Battlestars. It will only be an unfinished Beta but I'm really not that concerned given this is being done for fun.
Horribly unbalanced as in they mow everything down?
One of the things that stood out about the battlestar galactica universe was the sheer size of the ships. Some of them were over 2km long (about 1.25 miles in my part of the world). You couldn't really tell just how large the Galactica (and later the Cylon Basestar when it joined the fleet) were until they were near all the civilian ships.
In comparison, the Babylon 5 EA ships were about the same length but at the same time weren't as wide and had much less mass. Star Trek ships were downright puny compared to them.
Here's some of the lengths I found: Galactica = 1.445 km, Pegasus = 1.79 km, EA Omega class = 1.714 km. Unofficial info from one of the Sins Moderators puts the SoASE capital ship sizes around 1.0 km: http://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/172963/page/1/#1556877
The Federation Sovereign class comes in at a whopping 685 meters.
It's more of a subtle warning that it's not going to be like Sot13t as in I'm rebalancing everything.
So basically what I'm trying to do is keep BSG ships in scale with each other first as much as possible. The will however be comparable to Sins ships. The biggest difference will be the frigates which will overall be larger in the BSG universe.
The Colonial Fleet has met the Vasari, and they don't like them much either
Wow, impressive Zombie....


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Updated: October 15, 2012
Annis Scoggins Brooks, a resident of Abbeville, died early Monday morning, October 15, 2012, at her home. She was 79.
Funeral services will be held at 11:00 A.M. Wednesday, October 17, 2012, in the Abbeville United Methodist Church with Reverend Robert C. Yawn and Reverend Ray S. Reiley officiating. Burial will follow in the Abbeville Memorial Cemetery-East.
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In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to the Abbeville United Methodist Church, P.O. Box 100, Abbeville, AL 36310.
Mrs. Brooks was born in Myrtlewood, Alabama and moved to Abbeville with her family as a child. She lived in various locations in the United States and overseas while her husband served in the U.S. Army. Mrs. Brooks returned to Abbeville in 1971. She retired from WestPoint Stevens after twenty-seven years employment. Mrs. Brooks was a member of the Abbeville United Methodist Church and attended Union Free Will Baptist Church.
Mrs. Brooks was preceded in death by her parents, Marvin Scoggins and Ima Lammers Scoggins, a son, Danny Brooks, a brother, Bryant Edward Scoggins and a granddaughter, Kiley Roberts, and a great-great granddaughter, Kambrlyn Day.
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Lisa B. Starling and husband, Bruce, Abbeville; a son, Marvin E. Brooks,
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husband, Richard, all of Abbeville; two brothers, Carl Scoggins; Abbeville,
Johnny Scoggins (Janice), Haleburg; sisters-in-law, Anita Scoggins, Eufaula; and
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Great fishing for us over the three days. Certainly not what I expected with fish locations but we made it work. More than satisfied with the total catch
and lots of action for all those in the boat including a buddy whose only fished a handful of times.
July 31-started at Turtle Head but hit nothing but small springs and coho.
-Moved a couple miles toward "rabbit" at an area I know as "adipose", picked up a fifteen pound spring on a glow needle fish at 120' on the riggers.
Lots of action with coho and various cods or lings being close to the bottom.
August 1-Ran out to SouthWest corner and immediately had action on the same glow needle fish from the day before. After a few feisty smaller springs
one got smarter and took the line through the prop. Losing the go to lure led to trying a tiger prawn hootch....well believe it or not that thing just started slaying the springs at 110 to 130' in 160' of water and we had our limits within a few hours. Never would have guessed a tiger prawn
would work so well offshore, I've had better luck with this hootchy dragging near kelp inshore. Biggest was 18 lbs and a couple more in the high
teens, not the biggest but very hard fighting fish.
-After getting limits on Springs and 1 nice hatch coho we tried a hole near SouthWest and picked up a nice chicken to round out the day.
August 2-Started the day by fishing the same technique at SouthWest but just kept running into hoards of Wild Coho, whereas the day before we didn't
hit a single Wild Coho. Tried a number of different depths and gear but only hit one very small spring and probably released 20+ wild ho. Ended up with three nice hatch ho before moving on.
- Moved over to the North end of Starfish and didn't have a single hit of any kind for two hours of trolling various gear and depth. We tried larger Pilchard spoons and plugs since finding a few inside the springs from the day before but no luck. Some needle fish inside those springs as well.
-Decided to try for Hali near Starfish and after an hour drift jigging and setting a scent trail we pulled up a 4 foot dog fish and I thought game
over, time to switch to power bait. Well about 10 minutes later still fishing salmon belly, my bro hooked into a large fish that didn't run much but
tugged like a beast. Turns out it was a 67lb hali, surprised we got it in the boat as easy as we did, good harpooning and hog tying to keep it safe
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WOW, my mothers home has been on the market in CT. since MAY 2012. It has gleaming hardwood floors thoughout the entire home. All the bedrooms, (4) are spacious and they all have massive closets and extra closets are through out the home. There is a double garage a "true" in-law apartment and the yard is huge and flat with just woods in the back. I dropped the price 20,000.00 and I am getting offers $35,000.00 less. It is staged perfectly, the realtor loves what I did, so what is going on? Very frustrating~This message has been edited. Last edited by: Rootsgal, | |||
I can understand your frustration, Roots. WRT the sale of your mother's home, it's difficult to know for certain because all real estate is local. After that long of a marketing period, however, I'd have to guess price. Have you double-checked the comps with your realtor? Viewed the recently sold homes in that neighborhood? You mentioned receiving multiple offers in the same general **$ range. Without any other information, I'd have to assume those are reasonable opening offers. Have you attempted to negotiate by responding to the offers? If so, what was the result of those negotiations? I would certainly try to work with those prospective buyers. Don't know if you grew up in the home or how long your mother resided there. It's also important to detach yourself from the property and consider it inventory or even the (future) buyers' home in order to view it with critical eyes and market it properly. Best of luck to you. I'm sure you're dealing with multiple, difficult situations. Take care - all of the above is JMHO. | ||||
Rootsgal, First, Welcome to the Real Estate Boards! Would it be possible for you to post a link or a MLS number for the property so we can see exactly what you are talking about? Sometimes, it is helpful to see how a listing is coming across to persons who might be "shopping" online ~ that's where we come in! We can view the listing and give you feedback that very few buyers will do. It might be price or there might be something else going on. Simply need more information in order to offer ideas ~ hope you post back soon with additional information! | ||||
Had a few more thoughts, Roots. Besides reviewing the comparable sales (solds) with your realtor, I would also tour the competition, i.e. active listings, within your mother's area. In particular, you'd want to focus on similar sizes, models or floor plans and hopefully in the same and/or nearby subdivisions. You can compare the various listing prices and rank the homes against your mother's home. It's especially important to visit the homes all or most of the buyers touring your home would also visit. Try to perform the same analysis and apply a critical, buyer's eye to the group. If you were a buyer, which home would you make an offer on? More or less than your previous offers and why? Incidentally, if your realtor last presented the comps to you at your initial listing/pricing meeting, it's extremely important to update them. In most areas of the country, the market's changed significantly and 6 months would normally be considered a little stale, anyway. After reviewing both comps and visiting actives, you'll probably know whether the previous offers were merely lowballs, trying to take advantage of your situation or reasonable opening offers. Take care. Everything's JMHO. | ||||
You don't mention anything about the kitchen or bathrooms. Are they updated? If not, does the price reflect this fact? | ||||
Is the home being marketed with emphasis on the in-law apt? Is there a possibility that it could be used as a rental unit and marketed that way? Sounds like a huge home...has to be perfect for someone ... hang in there. | ||||
Your listing is stale. Realtors are quick to say it's been on the market since %$#, and suggest making an offer. Buyers are following your listing and realize you are chasing down the market. My suggestion would be refresh the listing. If you had a six month listing..relist it instead of extending the listing. Take a week in the interim to clean up to sparkle stage, and get rid of bad colors and paint neutral on areas needed. Little fixes make a huge difference. Think of ways to update it without too much expense...for instance take down old fashioned awnings... you get the picture. If the house has furniture ..remove it..clean the carpets and repaint/remove wallpaper if necessary. Raise the sales price $5,000 and see what happens. Another thought...ask your Realtor what is going on. Most of what I am reading in our National Realtors mags. say the market is improving in most areas. Check all that out with your Realtor. I would not recommend marketing the property as an "ESTATE SALE" ...promotes low offers.This message has been edited. Last edited by: real estate lady, | ||||
Hey, everyone, Rootsgal, the OP here, has started a new thread in Real Estate entitled "Dropped the price 3x's ... what else can I do?" that has the link to the listing we requested. It's a really nice home ~ check it out. It's always difficult to have multiple threads dealing with the same property so I'm moving my posts to the new thread. See you all there! | ||||
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A lot of the games have a second splash screen with the developing company in it. I would guess that it's a business decision/need, so that the visitor won't go to the developer's site to buy the game...
Why don't most casual game retailer web sites (a.k.a. game portals) say who made (or published) the games?
Did anyone else notice that the Real Arcade web site and client app recently stopped showing the name of the company who published or developed the game? I can't find any evidence of who made any of the games without running the game itself. Three weeks ago Real was listed the one company name and country for each game (either the developer or publisher). Today they list none!. But they do continue to list the country. So I can see easily see that Karu was made in Finland but I can't see that GameGekko made the game unless I download, install, and run it.
MSN Games doesn't seem to be any batter. They just mention Oberon all over the place for all the games.
Yahoo games doesn't seem to list any company names either
Shockwave.com does list "credits" that say things like "Developed by: PopCap" or "Publisher: PlayFirst | Developer: gameLab" but nothing clickable.
Big Fish doesn't seem to list any company names.
ArcadeTown.com doesn't seem to list any company names.
Reflexive.com lists one company name for each game. It is usually the publisher (who is often the developer for self published games) but sometimes it is the developer who is listed even if the game was published by someone else. The company name is a clickable links that leads to a list of all the games available from that company.
GameFiesta.com doesn't seem to list any company names.
download-free-games.com does list a single company for each game. For example Diner Dash says "Developer: Play First" (who is the publisher, the game was developed by gameLab) but Feeding Frenzy says "Publisher: Gamehouse" (FYI: the developer is Sprout) and Gamehouse is a clickable link that takes you to a page that says lots of things about game house "Studios is a Seattle, WA based game company founded in 1998 by 2 former Microsoft multimedia…" but the only list of game on that page says "Related DFG Site Resources:" and includes the games "Text Twist, Mah Jong Solitaire, Insaniquarium Deluxe, Letter Linker, Scrabble, Zuma Deluxe, Puzzle Inlay, Feeding Frenzy". Some of those are PopCap game!
I could be wrong about some of these sites. Maybe they do list company names and I just didn't notice them. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Ideally I would like to be able to find all games from a particular developer or publisher. If I was looking at Bejeweled it would be nice to be able to click a links to find all games by PopCap. But at a minimum, you would think they could just display a non-clickable company name.
Are these places just to lazy to do this, or are they worried it will somehow erode their customer base to identify the other companies responsible for the game, or do they just not want to deal with the questions of developer versus publisher? Obviously developers and publishes would like to see their name listed more on the retailers web site, but I would think this would also be valuable to customers.
I am surprised that Shockwave does the best job of displaying credits. They aren't clickable but at least they are complete. I would have expected the best crediting to be done by one of the portals that started out as a developer such as Big Fish or Reflexive.
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A lot of the games have a second splash screen with the developing company in it. I would guess that it's a business decision/need, so that the visitor won't go to the developer's site to buy the game...
It's the old business adage: "He who owns the customer owns the business."
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I bet if you asked a end-user who made the game, they would say the Portal who they bought it from. And I think the Portals would certainly want to encourage this. I've had similar experiences in retail where the distributor or publisher "forgot" to put our BeachWare logo on the packaging.
I'd say the answer is because the average consumer just doesn't care. It stands to reason that they should care in the case that they enjoy a game and would like to play others that the developer produced. Unfortunately I don't think the average casual gamer shops that way, at least not yet. Many of the same titles are available on the large portals and the average consumer thinks the entire industry revolves around only a couple of hundred titles. To them, the last great game was available on Real or Big Fish as the next great game will be. A good many of them may believe that Real "makes" these games or just never gave any thought to where they come from.
Who makes television programs? Is credit always given to the studios that produce them? Who makes your favorite program? All I know is that ABC broadcasts it.
From my point of view there are benefits and disadvantages to this. If you look at something like the movie industry, it pays big time for them to say the new "spielberg" or the new "cameron" or the new "pixar" film is coming out. People recognize those names and take notice if they like the director or producers etc.. So that can be used to generate interest in games, and in some cases help lead customers to what they want. Like finding all games star coder James C. Smith was involved in.
But on the other side of the coin.. if Portals create stars essentially then they might find themselves in the position of having to negotiate star rates. In our industry there are a few stars like Sid Meier and Will Wright... What if one of them were to announce a new series of casual games was in the works and real wanted it. Unlike most of us, they'd have some bargaining power on their side. The sims, or civilization, ultra casual edition etc...
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I feel they will eventually want to make developers into stars because it's in their best interest. At this stage, their focus is on their own brands, but it can only take the industry so far.
Stars generate interest, interest generates viral marketing and grows the industry in a ways that can't be matched by any other techniques. Developers like Blizzard, BioWare, Id, EA, Rockstar, Sony, UbiSoft are stars in the retail games world. Gamers know those names and are eager for thier titles.
In the end, this is entertainment and entertainment needs stars. MGM, Fox, Universal, etc. are brands, but it's the stars and directors that sell the tickets.
The question is, when will they do it? I don't know. They have an opportunity now with developers like PopCap, Reflexive, Mumbo Jumbo...or Vorax Games
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My theory is we're selling our brand and games via it. Not trying to build another brand and possibly have users easily bypass us by googling for that other brand. Besides most developers co-brand games anyhow.
Movies are a bad comparison as you can't bypass the cinema and go see the movie at the film producer's private location (i.e. googling for it).
Actually I was browsing through a few games on Shockwave.com the other day and a few of the credits were clickable and actually led to the developer's website. I was astonished to see that.Originally Posted by James C. Smith
Anyway, I don't think the credits have to be clickable to the developer's site, but at minimum I think there should be a non-clickable credit listing the developer or publisher. If someone is determined enough to Google the developer's name to cut out the "evil" middle man, they're probably still going to do it by looking at the company name in the in-game splash-logos. This is probably a very small percentage of people. So I don't think putting a pint-sized non-clickable text credit at the bottom of a game page is really all that threatening to a portal/affiliate site in terms of losing sales.
For example, on portal 'X' I don't want my company name listed on the game page for sales "spill-over" to my website. I want my company name there so next time the user is on the portal 'X' and they see another one of my games there, they'll say, "Hey, I recognize this developer name. I liked their last game, I think I'll give this new one a try." It might encourage users to download my new game on portal 'X' instead of moving on to something else. Otherwise if no company name is listed, there's no way for players to know if a new game is made by a familiar developer or not without downloading it.
Personally if I saw the little words "PopCap" underneath a game, I'd be 10x more likely to download it. However if you strip-away the PopCap name, I might think it's just another puzzle game and may not download it. I think portals should take advantage of the developer recognition instead of trying to stifle it. Especially someone who actually purchases a game, they're more likely to recognize the developer name later on and have a positive vibe. This user might even convert better with new games from that developer. Portals should use this to their advantage within their service.
The way Reflexive handles it, is the best way, IMO.
Not for long. http://video.google.com/Originally Posted by arcadetown
I think people selling music, and videos are probably having the same problems. That is the maker of the film, or music is easy to find, and they can sell their music, or movie from their own website for a tiny investment.
Wouldn't it be an easy "solution" to this "problem" to follow Sid Meiers' example in game naming? How would "Cliff Harris' Democracy" sound? =)
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My response has always been "well why the hell would I want to anyway?" The whole reason you're at a portal looking to buy games in the first place is probably repeate business and comfort. I don't go to Heinz to buy my beans, I'm happy with getting them from Sainsbury's because it's convenient. Same reason I buy nearly all my music from Amazon rather than fishing around on individual bands sites. It's easy. Imagine if Sony sold music but removed all reference to the individuals in the band, or even the band name itself. Daft.Originally Posted by arcadetown
Isn't it a legal requirement to credit everyone involved in a TV production?Who makes television programs? Is credit always given to the studios that produce them? Who makes your favorite program? All I know is that ABC broadcasts it.
I absolutely think that developers should be credited; the games are our creations after all, and it's not asking much. But I could probably count on one hand the number of times I've seen Squashy Software, or my name even, mentioned where Platypus is being showcased, or written about, or sold, or whatever.
Well with tv shows we get to know the actors more than the producers and directors. The same is true of films though fo most people and most directors.
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Yup, but the credits are always there if you care to read them.
A better analogy might be books, since they are usually the product of just one or two people, rather than retail games or films that might require hundreds. We always know the author of a book.
But again, that doesn't quite fit, because all we are talking about is listing the company that developed the game; not even the individual creators. I would personally like to see the person who "directed" every game put their name on the front of the box or whatever, just like movie directors do; I think that would be a positive thing for the whole industry. But we're a long way from that point. Just listing the developer's company name isn't much to ask.
If you produce good work, you want to be able to gain a reputation for it.
I think most television shows will end with a small clip that shows who made it. Merv-Griffin Enterprises and King World follow some popular game shows, and there is that monster at the end of Buffy the Vampire Slayer ("grrrr arrrr") that everyone recognizes. Maybe you aren't paying attention to it, but the credit is there.
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Funny to say, but I had a person that contacted me to ask whether our game will be available at Reflexive anytime soon. He seems to like and trust Reflexive on buying games so portals can earn their own reputation as 'portal' not 'developer'Originally Posted by svero
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Many people are talking about if the credit should go to the developer versus the publishers versus the individual people involved. That is also in interesting topic but that is not what I am most concerned about here. All I want, is for the retailers to list some company other then themselves on the web site for each game to help customers recognize who was responsible for some portion of that specific game to help them decide which game to try. All the games do list the credits for the developer and the publisher once you download the game. (usually in the form of company logos on the splash screens.) The customer will find out soon enough (if they care). But listing the names on the web site could help people decide which one to try first. I also am not interested in making the company name link to the developer or publisher's web site. I think that is out of the question since it will hurt the retailer. The only reason I wanted the name to clickable is to make it link to other games on that same portal that were made or published by the same company.
Many people pointed out analogies in other industries where it is the actor not the producer or the star not the studio or the author not the publisher or the publisher not the developer who gets the attention. I don't care. In all those examples, someone got some credit other than the retailer. And that someone is often used to promote the product not just list in the credits at the end.
Brick and mortar retailers aren't ashamed to put a brand name on the products they sell. I am surprised portals don't see the value in having brands for the games they sell and letting the customer search and sort by brand.
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I think it's very unrealistic to expect individuals in the biz to become stars. The casual game audience just isn't that involved. Even in the hard-core biz, where the audience follows things much more closely, there's only a VERY small handful of 'stars' that most gamers have heard of.
Even as far as developer names, the fact that many/most games have 3 entities involved (developer, publisher, distributor), dilutes the impact of any one of them, and makes it less likely that consumers will pick out the developers that they like and check out their subsequent games. I think PopCap is probably the only developer/publisher in the industry with that kind of name recognition, and that's in part because they were first, and because people can go to their site, download their games and also play the browser versions. It's unrealistic to expect a developer, usually with an under-developed home page, to develop a real following (and I'm thinking of myself/my company here - it just won't happen).
The one bright spot, where developers CAN develop name recognition with consumers, is in the product name itself. Done well, there is a lot of potential for developers to come up with brands that can be extended not only to direct sequels, but to more-or-less unrelated games. Big Kahuna Reef/Words is an example, but not a great one because BKW seems to be significantly less successful than BKR. But I think the Aloha series, the Collapse series, the Inlay series and the Ancient XXX series are reasonable examples of this. Had Bonnie's Bookstore been more successful, I would definitely have followed it up with Bonnie's ABC at some point, even if ABC was not a closely related word game.
I don't think it has to be the developer. As a developer I wish it was the developer name listed. But as a realist, I think it could most effective to list the publisher (especially in cases where the publisher helped with the development of the games like what PopCap and PlayFirst do when the publish games).Originally Posted by James C. Smith
This is why I say I donât care about the analogies where people complain that in brick and mortar retail games, the developer isnât listed there and the publisher steals all the attention. Thatâs great. That their job. They put their name on the box and get a reputation and fallowing based on the games the publish. That is missing in most web game portals. Most of them donât list the publisher on the web site. (which in many cases would be the developer because many of these games are self published)
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I look forward to pretty much anything released by any of Digital Eel's creators (Rich, Ikka, Phosphorous), Jeff Minter, and Anthony Flack, and PomPom (Mike and Miles). I'm a fan, see.Originally Posted by Phil Steinmeyer
Yes, but you're VERY atypical of the casual gamer audience.Originally Posted by princec
I'm not a guitar player, so to me, the list of great guitarists is maybe Jimi Hendrix, Eddie Van Halen, Prince, and a few others. But a fellow guitarist could probably name hundreds of them.
I still don't think just listing a credit below a title would matter to most consumers but I do think a search and sort feature would.
Searching and sorting is IMHO one of the weakest, most begging-to-be-overhauled features of the portals. Even a simple "customers who bought this also bought..." feature would benefit everyone. (a couple of them do this don't they?)
As it is now they have hundreds of titles divided by little more than action, puzzle, word, etc. Picking a game amounts to throwing a dart at a dartboard.
I agree 100%. Most of the portals lack even a search feature. So if I heard that GameX was worth checking out, and go to my favorite portal, I have to look in the top sellers list. If it's not there, I have to guess what category they've thrown it into and hope that it's there. Things like average user review score are buried, if present at all, and 'customers who liked this also liked GameY' are entirely absent. Amazon had this stuff from day one.Originally Posted by Stu
For that matter, because of it's excellent navigation, search, general layout, and cross-links based on preferences, it's possible for Amazon to have millions of books, and customers to find the one they want. Portals turn down games they could accept, I think because they fear overwhelming users. But that wouldn't be a problem if they followed the Amazon model.
There could be a portal out there with 5,000+ games on it, as long as it provided users with enough information to avoid the mediocre ones unless they were really big fans of the genre.
It's funny that you mention this, as I think its the way to go, especially for people like me selling mainly without portals.Originally Posted by Sol_HSA
I'm certainly putting my name in big letters on the next game, I may even patch Democracy at some point to put my name in it.
I think maybe I'm biased by having worked for Demis hassabis and peter Molyneux. They were both gratuitous self-publicists, and it worked well for them.
Actually, I'm surprised Amazon hasn't added a game portal section yet. I think that the bulk of software distribution for all categories will be shifting toward the download model vs the retail model.Originally Posted by Phil Steinmeyer
Au contraire, I'm maybe more casual than most people in here... I hardly play games, you can grab my attention for maybe 5 minutes at a time, and I can't be bothered with setup or weirdy controls. I just happen to like shooting things instead of matching colours.Originally Posted by Phil Steinmeyer
Oh crap... must resist temptatation... (sorry Cas for another one of these)Originally Posted by princec
I confess I know a few more control schemes than the average mum but even so...Originally Posted by arcadetown
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Hugo Chavez was a buffoon and a demagogue. But was that all?
Upon his death last week, the Venezuelan president was remembered in the United States for many things: his rambling speeches, his abusive anti-American rhetoric (George W. Bush is a "devil" and a "donkey"), his human-rights violations (independent judges get locked up), his nationalization of industry and oil, his inflationary economic policies, his inability to deal with out-of-control crime, and his mad embrace of Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Venezuela had replaced the Soviet Union as the main supporter of Communist Cuba, and Chavez seemed to regard himself as another Castro brother. With his passing, Washington could hope for a thaw in its relations with a nation that, through all the turmoil, remains its fourth-largest source of imported oil.
With Venezuela's oil revenues, nobody should have been poor. ..Chavez CAUSED the poor to be poor. But thanks to news media manipulation he didn't get blamed for it. That's how all dictators operate.
Why do we give credit to this comical fool? He overthrew his government, spread the wealth of his oil reserves to the poor, and created class warfare where the populist was the poor and ignorant that kept him in power. Never once did he threaten his neighbors with nukes or try to show real power by trying to take over his region like we see in the Middle East. He passed around money he had and danced around like a kid-show character to entertain the masses. Talked crap about the US. Many leaders who have a poor populist have gone on to create massive armies and show force and muscle (North Korea, Iran, 1930's Germany)... He knew once he played that card, the US and the whole Latin American region would have wiped him out. Blaming the US for his cancer...please. Not worth the effort because he was never a threat.
one thing America has is no shortage of dolts. Chavez overthrew HIS government. no. Bush Jr. and our CIA attempted to overthrow a duly elected President. Just as we were involved in the murder of Chile's elected President, Guatemala's elected President, Iran's elected President ... no wonder that with such pandemic ignorance, we have been in a constant state of war since 1941.
It is interesting to read comments regarding this article about Chavez when it is actually about the poor of South America. The important quote within the article is by the priest, "The poor are a by-product of a system in which we live and for which we are responsible . . .". It is not a condemnation of capitalism or democracy but a condemnation of us. It asks the question is this the best we can do with "free enterprise". People like Chavez come into existence not because "free enterprise" somehow incidentily creates "the poor" but because those who control it allow it to happen. We see the Gates of the world, the Buffetts attempting to ameliorate some of the inequities because they believe it is the right thing to do. Still far to many people believe the poor are poor because they choose it. I'm not saying I know a solution to it, but I am saying more and more people are becoming aware that this "free enterprise" that we like, that has done so much, needs to find away to bring the rest of the world, those boats stuck in the mud up into a better life. We need to do it not only because it is morally right but because if we don't there will be more Chavez's and they will be less kind in terms of what they see as greed and outright disdain for the poor.
Turk, has to be quite a burden walking around with that guilt complex of yours. "It is a condemnation of us."
You state that free enterprise somehow creates the poor. Later you write that free enterprise needs to find a better way to bring a better life to poor people. Then you trot out the "morally right" clause that is always a sure fire winner for folks like you.
Did it ever occur to you that there are many reasons for large populations of poor people, other than free enterprise? How about certain churches that encourage their flock to not use birth control. You do know what the latin american birthrate is, hmmm? That has been going on for a very long time. Exactly what are all those poor people going to do with themselves, or should the "free enterprise" system support them wherever they choose to live? Even though there is nothing productive for them to do?
I actually like your idea, suck the marrow out of the northern industrial countries, funnel it to sunny southern climates. When that happens, I will be more than pleased to go live in a tropical paradise at the expense of "free enterprise". Let's get after those evil "free enterprise" devils and get that money! That is the American Way!
I find it distressing to read the comments on many Globe articles. So many people miss the point. Or they do not care about the message and theme of the article. There are many with an axe to grind. Their point, your wrong, your worldview is wrong, your point of view is wrong. When did compassion become a weakness?
Chavez had his faults, but I believe he was a good man. The US has pulled a lot of cr-p in its day and the world does not forget. I agree with him about W. Political systems cannot be one size fits all. Local conditions and culture determine what works. Just a there is no "one true religion" there cannot be one true political system. Speaking of religions, not matter which you are, the founders philosophies would be considered "socialist" by posters here.
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Why is it that conditions to the north in Canada are so much better for the poor than to the south that Carroll writes about? I hope Carroll will answer this question.
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Canada is a very adult country. They can run and chew gum at the same time up there. How Canada handles so many issues, revenue and budgeting, investing in infrastructure, social issues, immigration, having pro-growth economic policies while intelligently to the best of their abiltity managing important entitlement programs. Our neighbors to the North get it about so much. Canada, though, doesn't have to apply 25% +/- of their annual budget to defending the free world and otherwise serving as a deterrant against the scum, filth and dogs of the world as the not so old USA does. Hugo Chavez was a difficult man for me to understand. I never quite understood how he could align himself with the evil demented theocratic swines who currently control Iran.
A good, balanced article. Still, it is too soon to know the influence of Chavez on the rising of the poor of Latin America. In his own country, this will depend on the sustainability of the political and economic paths that he has followed. Outside of Venezuela, it will depend on the influence of his example. This, in turn, depends not only on his domestic war on poverty, but also on the fate of his equally flamboyant crusade to curtail the political and economic influence of the United States in Latin America. He has arguably been one of the most open and aggressive proponents of this, but far from its only one.
We see Brazil, Colombia, Chile, Costa Rica, Mexico and other countries progressing economically on their own, different paths. Each of these countries is to a greater or lesser extent taking measures to combat inequity in their own societies. The main competing narrative to Chavismo is that of a more balanced, avowedly mixed economy with elements of the same mission to empower the poor, and a more subdued determination to move forward more independently of the giant to the north. We shall see which of these paths meets with the greatest success, and from that learn something about the legacy of Chavez.
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Argentina was one of the ten wealthiest nations in the 1920s and for many decades now it has been poor. The poverty of Argentina is not due to democracy, capitalism or U.S. meddling, Mr. Carroll's screed notwithstanding. The Venezuelan oil monopoly, PDVSA, is state owned. That's not capitalism. And while Hugo Chavez was elected to the presidency, the elections were hardly free and fair. That's not legitimate democracy.
This is Mr. Carroll's biweekly U.S.-bashing column. Next week he'll do his biweekly Catholic Church-bashing column.
We still haven't answered Camara's question. When he asks why "they call me a saint when I feed the poor and a communist when I ask why they are poor." Is poverty just an ordinary and expected biproduct of doing business? Are businessmen and women so bereft of conscience that they ignore the poor? Why do we ignore the long history of dictatorships supported by the US in Central and South America? Has anyone read Major General Smedley Darlington Butler (USMC)? Why do we blame the poor for their state of poverty instead of examining the causes of poverty? Chavez may have been a demagogue but he gave free oil to millions of poor Americans when American oil companies looked the other way.
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Mr. Carroll's position is that the massive income and wealth inequality and pervasive poverty in Latin America is due to a combination of the adverse effects of democracy and capitalism combined with U.S. meddling to protect its economic interests. There certainly has been plenty of U.S. meddling in Latin America since the days of the Monroe Doctrine but U.S. meddling just replaced the meddling that Europe was doing. Latin America has had precious little democracy or capitalism for most of its history. Argentina was one of the ten richest countries in the world in the 1920s but decades of Peronism and military dictatorships (and Argentina's military dictatorship in the 1970s was not a U.S. puppet BTW) have made the nation poor.
Chavez reduced unemployment by 50%. He cut poverty by 50 %. He reduced extreme distitution by a third. There were one thousand worker cooperatives in Venezuela whn he was first elected. Today there are over one hundred thousand.
As you drive into Caracas, you see solid homes with tile roofs, running water and electricity for miles. You used to see carboard shacks covered with tin roofs.
The GDP in Venezuela as increased every year over 10%. Chavez's critics say that's because of the oil wealth but the big oil producers such as Saudi Arabia only had their GDP increase by 5%.
Yes, crime has increased and so has inflation. But millions of the poor and middle class are much better off. When was the last time the US had a president that did so much for our poor?
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Carrol does make an effort at a balanced article here and should be commended for that. I also recommend reading the WJS's O'Grady; she's been writing about Latin America for years, and this week she makes a credible case for the belief that the masses of Venezuelan poor have done worse under Chavez, not better.
That said, Carroll's article has one major flaw when he asserts "For more than a century, that vast region has represented a venue for the free market." Only in places can markets in Latin America be credibly called "free." Carroll seems to be equating participation in a market by privately owned enterprises with a open and free market, and they are by no means the same thing.
The necessary ingredients for a free market that are often not met in Latin America -- and especially so in places like Chavez's Venezuela -- are the rule of law, recognition of human rights, recognition of property rights, and freedom of the press. Absent those factors, you don't have a free market. You have business and government actively pursing their interests within the context of a corrupt bargain.
"The huge percentage that live in hopelessness and deprivation which no politics or social programs
can correct" is directly related to the unsustainable population growth which will never be abetted
without the re-evaluation of its policies on birth control by the Catholic Church.
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"Kitch" One could make the argument that the lack of educational opportunity is far more important that Catholic theology. That theology is advocated here in the US but the higher educatinal levels of women lead to that religous dictum being ignored. That would imply to me education is far more important than religious tendencies.
That is quite a rant over noting the statement, "The poor are a by-product of a system in which we live and for which we are responsible . . .". In response to this comment you allude to the fact that it isn't capitalisms fault and then say, "Exactly what are all those poor people going to do with themselves, or should the "free enterprise" system support them wherever they choose to live? " Implying by your very statement there is nothing that "free enterprise" can do for them. You even go so far as to state, "even if there is nothing productive for them to do." You nicely encapsulate the problem. "Free enterprise" does indeed leave that question unanswered. It is not a criticism of free enterprise to ask the question. What should we do? I assume you feel the answer is, nothing.
No one is suggesting to suck the wealth of the north and place it into the south except perhaps America's southern politicians, but outside of them I can't think of anyone. Especially not me. What I was doing was merely asking the question that a lot of people ask. Can we allocate our resources in a better fashion? Are our priorties the right priorities? Can "free enterprise" be constructed in such a way as to alleviate the issue of the poor. You seem to believe to question anything, to seek a better solution is somehow an attack upon the system. It is not. Society, economists have been seeking better outcomes and better solutions than we currently have. You know not everyone is as lucky as I or as you in terms of the intelligence they are born with or the abilities and talents that we might be blessed with. To somehow throw the church, which I am no friend of, into the breech in order to take our eye off the problem is rather weak. To seek better outcomes is not to seek the end of something, it is merely to seek its improvement.
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<<Can we allocate our resources in a better fashion?>> The concern I have is with the way you've phrased the question. It implies an active role for us "we allocate" and, presumably, a passive role for the recipients of this allocation.
If one assumes that virtually all of people are capable of engaging in meaning work and living productive lives (and I do), then I think a better question would be "What's stopping the poor in Latin America from earning a good living?" I think the answers to that question are likely to lead to better solutions than any allocation scheme.
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Sad article, sadder reader comments. Does anyone in Boston donate their money to the poor, or do they just complain about it? Chavez was a punk who stole the people's natural resources and propped-up Cuba, Iran and Syria, where millions of innocent people suffer every day. He trusted Cuban medicine to save him. He caused much pain for his people. He didn't save the poor! Handouts NEVER work longterm...NEVER. When idiots like Sean Penn and James Carroll love you, you know that your on the path to suffering and loss.
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What a column. What a joke. Chavez was elected 4 times and won a referendeum that the american government forced on Venezuala with 70% of the vote. Every international agency that observed the elections declared them to be honest and fair. Meanwhile, state governments in this country eliminate people from the voting rolls, cause there to be 4-8 hour lines to vote, create odious ID laws and harass Afro-Americans who show up to vote. Then the courts refuse to allow a state to accurately count its votes.
You call chavez a "buffoon and a demagogue" because he replies in kind to the lying insults laid on him by american politicans. Only he does it with a sense of humor. Whats the problem? Is bush above having a joke made about him? You know, bush, the guy who created phoney evidence and lied in order to invade another country. You usually refer to Johnson as a tragic hero when he actually created a universe of lies in order to justify the attempted destruction of viet nam. But when any politician from another country describes US policy as being inherently evil, you attempt to diminish them by calling them clowns. The only reason for not calling every american president a clown is that there is nothing funny about mass murder and economic imperialism.
And then you attempt to smear Ortega, who was also an ELECTED president (lets not forget that Bush got LESS votes than his defeated opponent). Not to mention that the sandinistas stuck to the law and held elections while the US waged a brutal war against Nicagreguan people. And they willingly gave up power when they lost an election. And ortega is once again the ELECTED president.
It appears that it is impossible for you to mention any enemy of american imperialism without ultimately describing him or her as a joke, clown or evil.


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