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Sen. Scott Brown and Democratic challenger Elizabeth Warren faced off in their second debate Monday night at the Tsongas Arena in Lowell.
Brown touted his bipartisan record and attacked Warren on claims of Native American ancestry and legal work for corporations, painting her as an out-of-touch opportunist.
Warren cited her advocacy for the working class and attacked Brown for his votes against jobs bills, casting him as a politician for the wealthy and corporate interests.
The Boston Herald has the complete video of the debate.
Both candidates got their share of applause from the audience. But we want to know what you think.
Who would you say won? Did either candidate sway you in either direction? Were your questions answered? Discuss in the comments below.
6:17 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
I found the first debate far too awkward to watch, so I skipped this one. I just saw a clip online and it looked like more of the same. I find these to be too theatrical to do any good, so I focus on the basics when it comes time to pull the lever: their policies first, and their character second.
8:57 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
So Eric, why did you reply, just to say you didn't watch...they article is about the debate.
Raymond Hanna
6:55 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Character does matter. Lie-a-watha has repeated lied and changed her stories regarding her minority status, law practice in MA and the work she did for big steel and Travelers Ins. Character does matter!
Watertown Freedom
6:30 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Lines like, "I'm not a student in your class, professor," don't make Scott Brown seem clever or endearing, and they run contrary to his claim that he respects Elizabeth Warren's accomplishments as a scholar and an educator.
Point to Warren.
Walt Ham
8:46 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
That comment was Browns frustration coming through after Warren interrupted him nearly every time he spoke. If she respected the current Senator she would allow him to speak without interruption as he allowed her to respectfully!
9:35 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Actually I thought Gregory gave Brown more time to speak than he gave Warren - I will have to look around and see if there was an official time count.
Walt Ham
12:19 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Brown might have ended up with more time because it took him longer to get his answers out since he was interrupted by the Professor. You can't blame that on Gregory....
9:43 am on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
The only reason he was frustrated every time he spoke was because he couldn't string two thoughts together.
Advantage Warren!
Raymond Hanna
6:58 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
What debate were you watching. How rude can you be to constantly interupt Brown and then when he smacks her down down that is the only thing you can bring up pathetic!
North Main
7:36 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Um, Justice Scalia?... Justice Kennedy?... Justice Sotomayor?
Mr. Brown forgot to mention Judge Judy.
Raymond Hanna
7:00 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Better than calling out Kagen with no Judicial experiance. How trite.
7:51 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
The winner was David Gregory. He did a bang-up job, except the last dumb question about Bobby Valentine.
8:56 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Warren made some valid points regarding jobs, and Brown just came across as smug, and priviliged. I am still doing some fact finding online, and researching past history of what they have done for the people. I havn't made up my mind yet.
9:29 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
what points did warren make about jobs..built more roads?????? Have you not seen how much money gets wasted on these projects. It is obvious we do not have a money problem in this state and country we have a spending problem. Let's work on the problem and not throw taxpayers money at it.
Raymond Hanna
7:06 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Kimberly don't forget that she is a one percenter. She makes $300K for teaching one class at Harvard while students are going into debet $60K/per going to Harvard. $225K defending Travelers Ins. Buying and flipping foreclosed homes in Oklahoma. The beurcratic deptartment she set up in Washington dolls out six figure salaries to 60% of the staff hired.Go fact checking on that.
9:31 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Warrens idea of creating jobs is through government funded projects. She didn't say where the funds were coming from, but the voters are smart enough to know the funds would come from taxes. Brown should have talked more about creating jobs in the private sector.
It was disgraceful to see Warren interrupt a US Senator like she did. I imagine it was out of frustration.
Brown won on character, experience and knowledge.
4:08 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
It's curious that you only saw her interrupting. Salon actually timed how long each was allowed to talk, and Brown got 5 more minutes than she.
Of course government funded projects come from taxes. Is this news to anyone???? And she wants to raise taxes on the already wealthy, which are the lowest they've been in 50 years.
Brown lost by behaving like that dumb jock at the back of the class who thought he was smarter than the teacher. Elizabeth Warren won on clarity, class and compassion.
Raymond Hanna
7:12 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Caroline how much more do you want from those 10% who pay 80% of the taxes. When is enough, enough. Obama and his Job czar where laughing on camera saying that shovel ready jobs were not so shovel ready. How much Caroline???
9:34 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
I thought Elizabeth Warren blew a really simple last question about Bobby V. Easily could have said both Bobby V and ScottBrown have not lived up to the job they needed to do for MA, fire them both now.
9:47 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
You could say the same thing about Obama. Has not lived up to the job we hired him for!
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
9:46 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
The gaming industry needs Professor Warren far more than the Senate. She could dress in native attire while testifying for new casinos on sovereign land.
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
Dennis O'Donnell
9:53 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
I'm voting for Brown, but think that's a low blow.
Paul Turner
5:48 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
You forgot to say something positive about Brown. Is that because you had nothing positive to say about him, Rev?
Raymond Hanna
7:18 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Patty H. the only thing shameful is that she put herself as a minority in the registry at Penn and Harvard and then took it off when she could not prove. Lying is shameful.
10:15 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Why didn't they ask Warren why she decided to leave DC after being appointed by Obama to head a new Consumer agency? She made it to Washington...and left. Now she wants us to return her...I'm confused.
And why doesn't she have a current license to practice law if she's touting herself as a LAW Prof? Who is she, really?
10:19 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Who is she? that's easy, she is someone who is clueless and out of her league.
Chris Schaffner
11:28 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Why she left DC? The Repubs refused to even allow a vote on her confirmation.
1:24 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
The Repubs blocked her nomination to the CPB. They made it clear she had a snowball's chance in Hell of being confirmed.
Why don't you try some facts on for size?
2:20 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
She didn't leave Washington by choice. The Republicans in the Senate didn't like the fact that she was sticking up for consumers rather than the big banks, so they let it be known that they would never let her run the Consumer Protection Agency that she set up, and since they had the power of the filibuster Obama had to find someone else to run it.
And what makes you think that a Law Prof needs a current law license? She has no plans to try any cases in court, so why have one?
3:41 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Will the real E. Warren please stand up? She double talks, is rude (interupting S. Brown on just about every question). In addition, she's really overdoing the commercials. S. Brown is not "attacking" her family as she says in the commercial. He's attacking her credibliity and questioning her honesty....as we all should. All politicians talk the talk, but she's just too darn obvious for me.
Paul Turner
6:16 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Actually, BurlGirl, we will indeed be "returning her" to Washington, but she will have the interests of the citizens of Massachusetts in mind, as she performs her Senatorial dututies. .That is US. She'll have offices here, and presumably fly here for long week-ends to be in our state. That's what Massachusetts members of Congress and Senate do.
Bob Dee
1:54 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
How could the Republicans block her appointment if they did not have a majority in the Senate? How do they pull thst trick off?
Watertown Freedom
12:03 am on Thursday, October 4, 2012
Bob Dee, the way the Republicans blocked her nomination is through the abuse of the filibuster and "unanimous consent" rules. The US Senate requires unanimous consent to move forward on everything. A SINGLE senator can slow everything down, by refusing. It then takes 60 votes (which the Democrats do not have) to move ahead. Since appointees (judges, cabinet positions, etc.) have to be approved by the Senate, the Republicans have prevented Obama from filling hundreds of positions by using this tactic.
Raymond Hanna
10:15 am on Thursday, October 4, 2012
Watertown Freedom you're whinning like the whinner in chief. Liberals cram obamacare down the throats of the American people. Conservative rallyied and trounced in the 2010 elections. You have seen nothing yet. Here is a joke for you to lighten things up:
A teacher asked her 6th grade class how many of them were Obama fans. Not really knowing what an Obama fan is, but wanting to be liked by the teacher, all the kids raised their hands except for Little Johnny...
The teacher asked Little Johnny why he has decided to be different... again.
Little Johnny said, "Because I'm not an Obama fan."
The teacher asked, "Why aren't you a fan of Obama?"
Johnny said, "Because I'm a Republican."
The teacher asked him why he's a Republican.
Little Johnny answered, "Well, my Mom's a Republican and my Dad's a Republican, so I'm a Republican."
Annoyed by this answer, the teacher asked, "If your mom was a moron and your dad was an idiot, what would that make you?"
With a big smile, Little Johnny replied, "That would make me an Obama fan."
Joan Reddy
10:40 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Elizabeth won, hands down, for me. She was factual, open, polite, and accurate,
and did not back down in asking for equal time! There was no name calling from
Ms. Warren, just direct inquiries for facts and an accurate recitation of Brown's voting record, which speaks volumes about how HE acts "when the lights aren't on and the cameras rolling" for MA. Joan Reddy
North Main
2:29 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Good comment, and thank you for actually using your name to post - it makes comments far more credible.
2:29 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
How can you describe the Professor as "polite" when she constantly interrupts and attempts to shout down her opponent?
3:56 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
polite? Gosh, I would hate to see what the definition of rude is for you....Scott Brown was the factual, articulate, and straight-forward candidate with regards to responses. It did get to the point that she was so rude, that S. Brown was left to state that he wasn't a student in her classroom. He deserved the same respect he gave her. This is just my opinion of course.
1:30 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Facts not in evidence, Gone4Now. And stay that way on Nov. 6.
Bob Dee
1:58 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Faux Cherokee claim; plagiarized Indian recipes; practicing law without license; directs public $$$ to daughter's company; flipped foreclosed houses; gets 0% loan from Harvard. Maybe "Gone4Now" can offer those as facts in evidence.
3:48 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
I agree.....landslide win. It is interesting, however, to read the different views on this debate and what people "pick up" and walk away with. I thought Scott Brown got his views, points, objectives, opinions and how he plans to continue to proceed across very well. Ms. Warren...not so much. I also like the fact that Scott Brown isn't with Republicans or Democrats.....he's with the best idea that will work, regardless of where it comes from. That, in the end, is what we need.
3:28 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Brown won, despite the constant interruptions from Prof Warren & the obvious biased moderating from Gregory. David Gregory should never moderate again - that was ridiculous.
Paul Turner
6:29 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
some history for you.....a political debate of Democratic Presidential candidates from I believe 2008 was moderated by Brit Hume....they love Brit at Fox News. I say the choice of Brit for that debate was ridiculous, too.
Andy E
3:59 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
What I find most enlightening by reading theses comments is how much they mirror the tactics practiced by both parties. It is much easier to name call than talk about substance. Brown supporters are making him proud if he were to read this. By the way, the spending problem has little to do with repairing our roads , which are in great need. It has all to do with the billions spent in a war that we had no business starting to begin with. Osama attacked our capitalist principles that day and we respond with a war with Iraq? Now we are crippled with a slow economy and large deficit. Who won?
4:01 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
According to salon.com Brown got 5 full minutes more speaking time. http://www.salon.com/2012/10/02/massachusetts_senate_debate_brown_got_more_time_than_warren/
I thought Elizabeth Warren won. First, no one booed her. Second, she was clear on her stances on issues, while Brown equivocated. And, lastly, she's willing to stand with her party.
4:24 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Sen. Brown did not truck in people ( At the above stated $11.00 per hour )to hold signs and Boo when the Professor spoke . Can she make the same statement. I bet not.
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
4:17 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
You wonder if Warren really believes all her liberal theology... driver's licenses and nearly-free college tuition for illegals, for instance. Is she a true moonbat of the first water?
Reverend E. Raliegh Pimperton III
5:11 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Brown won... as far as the consumer protection agency, what the republicans object to is that it has no congressional oversight and is funded directly by the Federal Reserve. Anyone who thinks a predatory financial institution is going to protect them from predatory financial institutions is just dumb.
6:03 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Good points, Stiffee. Perhaps I missed the part in our Constitution that gives the Federal Reserve equal power to the House in disbursing public funds. Further Sen Brown could have mentioned that while she professes to advocate for the middle class folks, she sits on the Harvard faculty in a postition funded by a Wall Street corporate donor.
corey holmes
5:34 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Elizabeth Warren I believe was the winner hands down. It is pretty awful that Brown had more time and yet when Elizabeth was to speak up about it, because it is not fair, somehow that makes her the "bad" guy. Haha it's clear Brown likes to paint this picture that he is independent, because for 1. He always backs the republican party in congress, 2. He sides with Mitt Romney and yet does not publicly show who he endorses because he knows the Common Wealth is about as Pro Obama as you can get and guess who supports President Obama? Elizabeth! Wake up everyone, elite capitalistic hierarchy are not gonna be in charge anymore!
C.J.Holmes III
Andy E
5:40 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Warren won. Brown is simply for big business , warren is for the little guy. Thank goodness some body is.
North Main
5:43 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
The fact that Brown named ultra-conservative Scalia as his idea of a model SC justice speaks volumes. Not that he actually stuck to that comment, once he realized the audience didn't like it, then he waffled and moved onto Kennedy (middle of the road) and then to Sotomayor (progressive). So, who actually knows who Brown admires after those comments? I suspect that if Brown is reelected, we'll see a true Republican in the making. No more "bipartisan" voting, if he wants to call it that.
Paul Turner
6:01 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Brown says he's the second most non-partisan U.S. Senator, yet he thinks Scalia is the Supreme Court Justice he admires the most. Hmmm. And, Scott, if you're so non-partisan, don't campaign for Republicans running for election or re-election in the Senate. Maybe you're a Republican too, Senator, but just how non-partisan are you? Warren got in a great point with that one.
6:20 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
I think both candidates did a nice job. Unfortunately, Elizabeth Warren is about more spending and more taxes. To me, that is a deadly combination for our future. Scott Brown gets my vote. At least we know, he knows how to compromise and he won't simply vote whatever the party leadership dictates...I cannot imagine Elizabeth Warren ever breaking ranks with Nancy Peolosi.
6:26 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Raymond Hanna
7:31 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
It is she that has to prove what she is! I bet you her three brothers who served this country were proud to check the white box. She is no indian Jack. She knows it and you know it. She won't even meet with real indians. She is a fraud and you continue to stick your head in the sand.
6:41 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Elizabeth Warren…native american fraud. She was owned by our senator! She should stay at Harvard. It's plain to see by his voting record, he is down the middle of the lane compared to Washington at the moment…that's what WE need. Go Scott!
8:52 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Who cares who won, why are we even thinking of voting for her?!!!!! She was hand picked by the Democratic party because they know Massachusetts cant resist a tax and spend liberal or a Kennedy. Warren is so unqualified it is ridiculous that we are even having this discussion. Another tax and spend liberal from MA! No wonder the rest of the nation laughs at us. Don't we have enough theorists in Washington? Aren't you tired of these "academics" who have never worked in the real world and will never have to earn their way because they have tenure!!!! I'm sorry, I forgot this state supports Obama...another theorist who has never had a real job. Haven't we had enough on the job training; George W, Obama and now Warren?!!!! Why don't we vote for people who have actually worked and made money?! I work for my money and am tired of people taking more and more of it for government agencies like the one Warren created. We already had an agency that was supposed to be performing that job, now we pay for second one. She is just one more tax and spend liberal from MA who will vote for every tax and has no idea how business' work or make money. I'm tired of both parties and politics in America. We are so broken and there don't seem to be any real ideas surfacing on how to fix our economy, schools, our borders, or our foreign policy. She is a joke just like Obama, except there isn't a funny punch line.
Paul Turner
9:11 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
You say you're tired of both parties....where's your criticism of Brown and Romney?
9:14 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
You moonbats are so delusional! You really think Liawatha will actually vote anything other than the democrat party line??? She has already shown that she can lie very well...
Paul Turner
9:24 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Who's Liawatha? There were only two candidates-Brown and Warren. To be serious, I know who you meant, but how about coming up with either of those two, OK?????? If you're for Brown, I need some proof.
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
9:33 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
This just in... Richard Lugar endorses Scott Brown.
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
Alan Orth
10:38 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
I think Elizabeth Warren is more honest than Scott Brown. Brown works hard to profer his image as independent, which seems dishonest to me, as he seems more like the "etch a sketch" guy than really one who examines the issues for what is best for the country, as opposed to what is best for his image, or standing in his party.
It looks to me like Mrs. Warren stands strong for what she believes, but see's the dilemna's and will work to gain consensus.
siobhan hullinger
6:50 am on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Gosh - I don't know how you can say that! Warren was and is dishonest about "checking the box", wrote a book with a co-author who lost her job because of fraudulent "facts", says she is for the working shmo but represented companies against the consumer, thinks we should spend like China on infrastructure ( does she know China has to BUILD an infrastructure?). I just don't see honest here
Brown served this country - yes protected you and me - worked all of his life, as a freshman Senator he passed legislation removing the insider trading our illustrious political class have enjoyed - quite a feat for a freshman. I just don't see etch a sketch here
Raymond Hanna
7:41 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Alan I don't know what koolaid you are drinking but she can't get one story right. Lied about being and indian and got caught. Lied about the recipes in her POWWOW Chow. Lied about work for the little guy when she was working for Travelers (not that there is anything wrong with that). Lied about flipping foreclosed homes and got caught. Lied about practicing law in MA and got caught. Very honest Alan very honest. The truth does sting.
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
10:46 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Let us suppose for a moment your are correct. What if Warren's beliefs and intentions would be harmful to the country? What does her 'honesty' buy us then?
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
roy switzler
3:46 am on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
The debate was no contest.
Senator Brown won over the neophyte from Harvard.
8:01 am on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
And how many of you will will decide your vote based on who won the debate? Did anyone change their mind?
I would expect Warren to be better at these due to her law school professorship Debates give a VERY narrow view of candidates. I personally prefer to choose my candidates based on their positions on issues described in detail on their websites, not on quick sound bites. Both candidates gave dumb answers to the Supreme Court Justice question. Brown picked an ultra conservative and Warren picked a scholar who has been on the bench for about a year and never practiced law.
I am neither enamored with Scott Brown's "good looks" nor Elizabeth Warren's stature at Harvard.
Spend all of your time going back and forth but please, if you are undecided, spend some time on the candidate's website rather than trying to figure out who looked and sounded better on TV.
Finally, I am certain the person most impressed with David Gregory was David Gregory. Here is hoping they might stick to local figures for future debates.
Judith Otto
7:17 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Check out the fact checking
ISSUE: Did Brown vote 50 percent of the time with Senate Democrats?
In his closing statement, Brown sought to burnish his bipartisan credentials by asserting, "I'm 50 percent with my party, 50 percent with the other party."
FACTS: It depends on how you count the votes.
A Congressional Quarterly analysis found that Brown voted with the Republican leadership 54 percent of the time. But that calculation included dozens of amendments that had no chance of passing.
"As the Globe reported in May, on the most important, news-generating votes since he arrived in office in early 2010, Brown joined Republican leaders 76 percent of the time, according to an analysis by Project Vote Smart, a nonpartisan organization."
Raymond Hanna
8:06 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
All bills go through multiple votes before the final vote on the floor.
Raymond Hanna
7:52 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Both stumbled at times. If you think your candidate was flawless and trounced the other candidate you are only kidding yourself. Brown fumbled the SCJ question and Warren fumbled the bi-partisian question ala Lugar. So the debate was about even, slight edge to Brown based answering the college student jobs question. I don't think the female senior was looking for a construction job building roads. So look at each candidates record from independent sources, not their websites. Find what work both candidates did via their public record, and you will find if you are honest with yourself you can not vote for the one percenter from Harvard elite.
tracy anderson
9:33 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Brown definitely won. We are lucky to have someone like him down in the Senate representing Mass. Warren was very well coached and tried desperately to say all the "right things." She didn't make any sense. She made up things as she went. Her "facts" were very suspect. She told a UMASS Lowell poli. sci. senior who asked about jobs when she graduates, that we'd be building roads and bridges. Say what? Maybe she can run that steam roller thing on all these new roads we'll be building??? Here's a thought, if the very wealthy, very powerful very well-educated Mass. Democratic delegation of Congressmen and Senators who are representing us in Washington all worked with people on both sides, like Sen. Brown does, then perhaps they'd actually get something accomplished in the supposed goal of helping our State be the leader we all know it can be! Thx. Thank goodness we have people like Sen. Brown working for us.
Dr. Paul Anderson
2:54 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012
The essential basis for choosing any candidate, should begin with his or her character. Ones ability to be truthful or not, should be the deciding factor in choosing any candidate. I will not soon forget, a meeting I attended in the Oval Office in 81', with the Washington Press Corps.,as President Reagan spoke.As I listened to the evening news regarding that a.m.meeting,I realized just how distorted the media really was. "TRUTH" for the media is a foreign language.
During the 2008 Presidential campaign season, I listened carefully as both men made their case.I must say,then Senator Obama's ability to be truthful, was in question.The statistics he quoted when compared to Congressional records, were inaccurate at best.
In 2009 I did some extensive research into his Affordable Health Care Plan.I couldn't believe my eves, after learning that he had proposed a:Global Health Initiative as Senator, and as President, pledged 65 Billion Dollars at the 2009 London G-20 Summit. Speaking of re-distribution of wealth,this one took the cake as my Dad would say. His International re-distribution of wealth, has also effected Americs's Manned Space Program.Jobs lost at the space center alone exceeded 15,000 ,not including companies that were for support by supplying parts and materials. Four more years of Pres.Obama, and this nation will become a third world country. In closing it's disturbing to me, to be forced to make such statements,but the alternative would be a disaster.
Paul Turner
5:29 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012
Dr. Anderson put his comments in the wrong forum. He did not answer the question put forth in this section.
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
6:31 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012
Scott Brown just accepted the endorsement of a group of white ministers. Shades of Reconstruction and Klan meetings. Just kidding, of course, but imagine the outrage.
Elizabeth Warren just accepted the endorsement of a group of black ministers. Shades of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Where is the outrage?
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
10:22 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012
i believe e warren won she outlined her position and what she wants to do for ma,unlike brown he's beginning to look,act,and lair like his boss mitt romney
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
10:40 pm on Friday, October 5, 2012
Professor Warren might have taught you capitalization, punctuation, and grammar. But then again, maybe not.
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
1:23 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012
I don't think Warren or Brown are bad people personally at all---This comes down to which person would best represent us---here in Massachusetts. I was on the fence, but Brown lost me with the Scalia comment---That man should resign and become a radio show host---His "original text" approach to interpreting cases is quite selective---gay rights and abortion are not OK because they were illegal for 200 years, but rights to won AK-47's and machine guns somehow were contemplated.
The S. Ct. matters and Brown just doesn't vote the way most people in MA would on court nominations---He voted against Elena Kagan, the Solicitor General of the US because of he "lack of experience"....That just doesn't make sense. I'm also concerned after reading about Brown joining just about all of the GOP's Senate filibusters---which of course mean that no discussion---NOT even a discussion---could go forward on some important bills just because the other side proposed them. This is not how a Senator from Massachusetts should act. Reasonable people can differ and I suspect some will with me, but I'm going to vote for Warren.
Raymond Hanna
1:53 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012
One can concede the SJC question a stumble for Brown, but to say you are going to vote for Warren on the basis of filibuster is baseless as both sides use this tactic. He voted 46% with Dems on final votes. This means he was able to get some consensous from both sides during subcommittee and committee negotiations. Warren will vote 100% with Dems. This state has independents and conservatives that also need representation. He is not my choice as I lean conservative. But I found someone in Brown that works for me 50% of the time which is better that none of the time. I don't want my taxes raised. If you want to give more of your money to the feds and state no one is stopping you. But I ask you how can you vote for someone who worked for big insurance and big steel and gain from flipping house that were forclosed on, plagerized books and is part of the one %. Why do people on the left ignore these fact? Why? Lots of hypocracy to go around.
3:15 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012
Mr. Hanna:
I happen to agree with Miriam---Your point about taxes is fair--No one wants to pay them, least of all me, a retired combat veteran on a fixed income---Fact is we had two wars "funded" by 5 tax cuts---We need a balance of cuts against some revenues/tax increases on the uber-wealthy or else we have to make cuts in contract programs---I don't call them "entitlements"---I paid in all my life and fought hard for my country--I'm not a victim and I don't have a $100M stashed in the Caymans. Brown voted for the Ryan budget, which is a joke and would voucherize Medicare. One side---the GOP--which created the mess under W--has refused any reasonable compromise to move things forward over the last 3 years---Even Congressman Boehner concedes that---Brown is a not a "50%" conservative---He is a 100% corporate Republican who waits for his National leaders to allow him to vote on things---even for-show votes when the Democrats already have enough votes---He's a fine Senator for a more conservative state---That's just not MA and I think Warren is more like Ted Kennedy insofar as protecting veterans benefits and overall fairness.---Just my opinion.
Raymond Hanna
3:50 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012
First of all Frank C. thank you for your service. It is because of people like you that we are able to have this conversation. Sir I whole heartedly agree with you regarding the SS safety net. It is not an entitlement and you earned and deserve every penny you put into it with interest. But if your read the entire string of comments not one person will answer the questions I have laid out:I ask you how can you vote for someone who worked for big insurance and big steel and gained from flipping house that were forclosed on, plagerized books and is part of the one %. Why do people on the left ignore these facts? Why? When these questions are answered we can have a debate. Surely a vetran like yourself understands honor, integratiy and thrustworthyness. I ask how can you trust a Warren when she clearly falls short on the basics.
7:17 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012
I'm a fellow conservative and we are a lonely bunch here in MA---better to focus on state races and do what we can to make things better locally---never really liked Brown--He's a pretty boy and a complete lightweight. Warren is who she is---liberal, smart and she does care about the " little guy. " ---I think Brown's focus on the Native American stuff is a waste of time and money--He should focus on eliminating waste and being a newer version of former Senator Ed Brooke---Attacking her for her ancestry is small and stupid---His record doesnt allow for anything else----Let's have the debate about priorities and true conservatism ( Justice Kennedy NOT Scalia)---keep an eye on Tsei beating Tierney---that's where we need to focus. Brown is a lot cause.
S T Hrouda
11:20 pm on Saturday, October 6, 2012
It doesn't matter if you call yourself a Republican, Democrat or an Independent; only citizens that are in favor of a larger Federal government should vote for Warren.
7:38 am on Sunday, October 7, 2012
Yeah HRouda---That's right becuase George W was alll about shrinking government---Was it his expansion of the Medicare prescription drug benefit without any means to pay for it that tipped you off?---Great "conservative" strategy of borrowing money from China to pay for 2 wars and expanded government---and Brown would have voted in lockstep for this nonsense because he is a poodle on a leash held by the National GOP party....There is NOTHING "conservative" about Brown or his party at the moment---It's all opposition and gridlock---No new ideas, nothing....
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
8:22 am on Sunday, October 7, 2012
And on the other hand...
If you are a government employee, union member, food stamp recipient, or limousine liberal then Elizabeth Warren is the candidate for you.
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
10:01 pm on Sunday, October 7, 2012
Rev, what do you have against government employees? I assume you do since you oppose EW, and you lump civil servants in with union members, food stamp recipients, etc. Ya, EW is a big time Limo Liberal...but that hasn't been a disqualifying attribute for many politicians.
S T Hrouda
10:11 pm on Sunday, October 7, 2012
Other than having to borrow money from China to pay for the salaries and benefits of government employees, why would anyone have something against government employees?
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
1:12 pm on Monday, October 8, 2012
Nothing against these folks... merely identifying those who would enjoy, extend and enhance the policies of the current administration.
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III
8:08 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012
Meanwhile the Obama campaign unravels before us. Americans die in Libya due to lax security, and Obama runs ads featuring Big Bird.
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III


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Prior to his promotion, Mr. Awojobi was Principal Manager/Head, Directorate of Education, 2009 – July 2012; Principal Manager/Head, Directorate of Consultancy, Training and Research, 2008- 2009; Senior Manager, Consultancy, 2007; Senior Manager/Zonal Coordinator(North) 2006- 2007; Manager/Zonal Coordinator (North), 2004 – 2005; Deputy Manager, Consultancy Department, 2000 – 2004 and Assistant Manager, Training Department, 2000. Before joining the Institute in the year 2000, he was the Admin Manager, CIBN Lagos Branch, 1996- 2000; Assistant Manager/Head, Banking Operation, Greenfield Mortgage Finance Co. Ltd., 1993 – 1995 and Manager, Peoples Emergency Deposit Scheme (PEDS), Peoples Bank of Nigeria, 1992.
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[quote author=pihikes board=pacific thread=29 post=708 time=1338747507] Hi all, Ryan started his hike just over a week ago; on a Friday morning approximately 6am. By friday (a week later) he was passing Cajon Pass, some 340'ish miles north. Yesterday, he was by the 'endangered toad detour' (which if I wasn't lazy I could correlate to a specific milage.. Somewhere like 380/390.) I'd figure that puts him at nearly-50 per day, maybe 48-50. I've done some fifty mile days, even once or twice done back-to-back fifties. I have no idea what a week of them feels like though! He says he's making 3+mph consistently. Hunger hasn't turned on yet, he'd like it if the hunger didn't start till after the Sierras, but likely it will not hold for that long. I'm not familiar with his exact plans, but I believe he is ahead of the previous records pace. Just one week in though, so much can still happen in a summer. Thought everyone might enjoy hearing the update. I tried posting similar when he was two days in, but have lost the thread. Perhaps this is spam? This time I've registered, so if this is out of place, admins/mods please advise and I'll knock it off. Happy trails all![/quote]
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Posted by
Peter Bakwin
on Nov 3, 2009, 7:59pm
Scott Williamson set the PCT record at 64d11h19m (north to south), August 8 - October 11, 2011.
Scott Williamson & Adam Bradley hold the south to north record at 65d9h58m, June 8 - August 12, 2009
Along with the
Continental Divide Trail
and the
Appalachian Trail
, the
Pacific Crest Trail
is one of the "Big 3" National Scenic Trails. It runs 2655 miles from Mexico to Canada, through the Sonoran & Mojave deserts, and then over the Sierra Nevada and Cascade mountain ranges. The PCT crosses California, Oregon and Washington, and passes through 24 national forests, 7 national parks and 33 wilderness areas.
David Horton
was the first and only person to "run" the entire PCT in fully-supported ultrarunner style, which he did in 66d7h16m, from June 4 to August 9, 2005. Horton's massive effort is beautifully documented in a high-quality film called
"The Runner"
. Some excerpts are available on
. Here is what
Sports Illustrated on-line
wrote about Horton's trip:
On Aug. 9 -- 66 days, 7 hours and 16 minutes after he started at the U.S.- Mexico border--Horton, 55, crossed into Canada, smashing the 2003 PCT record by 17 days. Averaging 40 miles a day, the kinesiology professor from Virginia suffered just two blisters, both on his left foot. His strangest encounter? "I was buzzed and hit by a goshawk," he says. Toughest stretch? "Going out of Yosemite. We ran out of food for 26 1/2 hours. Our crew couldn't find us. I felt like quitting." Most surreal moment? Finishing the trail in the Cascades: "It was a blur. It doesn't seem like it was that long or that hard or that I even did it."
The PCT is usually done in typical thru-hiker style, which we would classify as "self-supported" -- rather than having a dedicated support crew, the hiker may use mail drops, facillities in towns along the way, and the kindness of strangers. Technically, any pre-arranged support such as friends meeting you along the trail with supplies would be considered "supported".
Scott Williamson
and Joe Kisner previously held the record for the fastest thru-hiker-style (which they call "unassisted") trip on the PCT at 71d2h41m, set June 8 - August 18, 2008.
is a brief write-up on their trip. They beat Kisner's record of 79d21h42m, set in 2007.
In perhaps the greatest feat of speed backpacking to that date, Scott Williamson & Adam Bradley surpassed not only the thru-hiker PCT record, but also Horton's fully supported record, by hiking the trail in 65d9h58m from June 8 to August 12, 2009. The pair did not use a vehicle at any time during the trip (backpackers typically hitch hike from the trail to some of the resupply points), adding about 20 miles to the trip. Williamson, who has now hiked the PCT a staggering 12 times, posted a brief summary on the
Team Inov8 website
, which reads as follows:
On 8/12 at 9:58 PM Adam Bradley and I arrived at the northern terminus of the Pacific Crest Trail, 65 days, 9 hours, and 58 minutes after leaving the Mexican border having averaged 40.5 miles a day. We have broken David Horton's record by about 21 hours, the old record being 66 days, 7 hours, 16 minutes. This was the culmination of a dream that we started on June 8Th at 12 PM. We broke this record as backpackers without any outside assistance, doing the trail as backpackers picking up prepacked boxes of food in towns along the tail. In addition we did not use any vehicles at all during our journey, but instead chose to walk into and out of all of our resupply towns which added over 20 miles of walking to the already difficult 2655.4 mile distance we were trying to cover. In the course of going after and breaking David's record I have gained even more respect for him as an athlete setting the record he did in 2005 which was a much higher snow year and thus more difficult year for a speed record than what we had. My feet held up well and the flyrocks performed well. I ended up losing about 25 pounds during the course of the trip and although I do feel somewhat run down overall feel happy to have made it to the finish after battling the flu and non stop 45 degree rain during the last six days of the hike. I will post more once settled back into the off trail life. For now I am happy to report that we met our goal and now hold the all out overall Pacific Crest Trail speed record.
-- Scott Williamson, 15 August 2009.
Bradley provided some additional information, stressing the importance of staying on the true PCT in any speed record attemp:
One thing I would like to stress as well for anyone that hopes to challenge the record is that they need to be on the PCT every step of the way. In 2005 when Horton ran the PCT he took the detour around Glacier Peak where Scott and I didn't. This is significant as it takes a road out of the equation (no resupply for runners) and adds 10 miles of old growth blow down to crawl over. In addition about 5-6 glacial melt streams that must be forded. There is no doubt in my mind this adds significant difficulty over the reroute road option. Also in the past some of the PCT speed records have taken alternates to avoid fires etc. I would stress that Scott and I walked the entire PCT and I think if anyone wants to claim a PCT speed record in the future they would need to be on the PCT for the duration of the trip.
-- Adam Bradley
Bradley also provides the pair's state times, which he believes to be records for these segments, as well as the midpoint time (note that in 2012 the Midpoint & California times were beaten by Ryan Weidert, see below):
- Mexico to midpoint: 34d18h47m2s
- midpoint to Canada: 30d15h11m45s
- California: 42d18h27m
- Oregon: 10d14h14m
- Washington: 12d1h17m
An extensive interview with Bradley is on
Patagonia's employee blog
Perhaps even more amazingly, in 2011 Williamson beat his record with Bradley by less than one day by hiking north to south in 64d11h19m, August 8 - October 11. This was Williamson's 13th thru-hike of the PCT!
In 2004, Williamson became the first person to complete the PCT "yo-yo", hiking from Mexico to Canada and back in a single season. He repeated the feat in 2006, for a record time of 191d1h20m.
PCT California:
Ryan ("Tuna Helper") Weidert went after the PCT speed record (see below) in the summer of 2012. Heading NoBo, he was ahead of record pace until about Crater Lake "when the snow hadn't melted out and made progress slow and awful", so he was unable to complete the whole trail. However Weidert did manage to set new Midpoint (30d9h55m) and full length CA (38d10h00m) speed marks. Weidert used Scott Williamson's self-supported style (no vehicles of any kind), and carried a GPS to verify times and locations. His
has detailed information, with some additional info added
Steven's Pass to Snoqualmie Pass (WA) Section:
Will Thomas
provided information on a short section of the PCT that looks like an excellent route worthy of its own FKT. This is a 75 mile segment from in Washington, from Steven's Pass to Snoqualmie Pass. "Next to the Wonderland Trail around Rainier, it is probably the 2nd most popular week-long backpacking excursion in Washington", says Thomas. "These two passes ... are the two main (and closest) passes for driving over the Cascade mountains from the Seattle area. The only access to the PCT between these points would require a good 8-10 mile hike from the end of a Forest Service road." Thomas did the hike on September 12-13, 2008, in a time of 37h17m. His
gives a detailed report with many stunning photos and some video clips as well. The FKT for this segment of the PCT appears to be held by Eugene Trahern, Mark Hartinger and Ike Hesler, who ran it in 18h05m on July 21, 1995 (according to an email I received from Trahern on June 7, 2010.)
PCT panorama by Will Thomas
Posted by
on Apr 28, 2011, 10:52pm
Are there any records for running the whole PCT in Oregon?
Posted by
on Jul 26, 2011, 11:59pm
Hi There I am new here so bear with if this somehow gets screwed up. Scott Williamson AKA "Bink" here. Just wanted to put word out that I will be attempting to break the overall speed record for a single continuous hike/run on the 2655 mile Pacific crest trail. As you may know Adam Bradley AKA "Krudmeister" and I co-hold the current record of 65d, 9h, 58m set in 2009. My intention is to do it in the same style that Adam and I did in 2009, that is what we call "unassisted" or "self-supported". This means I will NOT have anyone following, or otherwise meeting me in prearranged manner to give me support. I plan to do this hike as Adam and I did in 2009 as a backpacker, carrying all of my food, equipment, and water between resupply towns, which I will walk into and out to pick up prepacked and mailed food boxes or phurchasing food, in these towns. As with Adam and I in 2009 I will not be getting in a vehicle for any reason during this attempt, if I do it means the attempt is off. I will be following the official PCT route, no detours, road walks or alternates of any kind. For me the style of this undertaking is more important than breaking the record itself. I plan to start around 4:30-5 am on August 8th at monument 78 on the US-Canadian border, at the northern terminus of the PCT. If all goes well , with no specific goal of how many days I will be doing (sub 65 would be great even if only hours), I should hit the Mexican border earl in the day on the 11th of October or earlier.
With all of that out of the way let me expand on a few things. I am only announcing this because I intend to do a fast hike of the PCT and if possible would like to lower the record. However because of work and home obligations I have not been able to train as I would like to have so this is really going to be decided in the first half of the trip for me. In addition I will be doing this solo. On both the 2008 speed hike with Joe Kisner and 2009 with Adam, I felt that undertaking a speed hike of this kind is mentally MUCH easier with someone else doing it with you, than it would be solo. Frankly I do not know how that is going to be. Thinking about this gives me even more respect for David Horton's run in 2005. Yes he had many people meeting him along the way, but he alone was running the entire distance. His record in my opinion is still the "solo" record. The other huge factor is that in 2009 Adam and I went northbound, and had much longer days and warmer weather than I will have on this hike. As a result not only will I end up night hiking more than we did, but will also be affected by weather much more than we were. In short with these factors figured in I give myself a 25% chance at bettering the current record. At the minimum I hope to break the "south bound" speed record, which as far as I know is in the 87-90 day range, (maybe someone can help me with this) depending on who you ask. Failing any of that I will have fun spending time on the trail I Love.
I will not be keeping any sort of blog or website on this self funded effort. I will periodically be in touch with Adam Bradley "Krudmeister" so his blog FSTPKR may be your best bet if you need to know how it is going, although I do not know if he will be posting anything about this. I leave tomorrow for ten days of pre hiking in the north cascades and thus will have no computer access after tonight. Weather I am successful or fail at this I will be back here with a short trip report on what went wrong or right. This is going to be interesting either way, such a late start heading south, who knows. either way I know the reality of what I will be trying to do, thus while I may sound under confident about this, it is more a realistic outlook form experience. Either way the challenge of doing it in the style I have set for myself is far more important than being able to say I broke the record. Adam and Joe: I wish you guys could be along or this one! Onward! BINK
Posted by HR HuffnPuff on Jul 27, 2011, 10:39pm
Go for It Scott!!!
Posted by ZoomLoco on Jul 27, 2011, 11:13pm
Great humble attitude. Go big! "Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will." -Gandhi
Posted by
on Aug 23, 2011, 1:04pm
Just got a update from S-Dub/ Scott Williamson/ Bink... he is out there pulling thru some difficult conditions, but totally on a record pace... send him some love people! He could use some good vibrations/ support/ shouts! Will post more updates as they come thru... yee haw Bink!
Will post more updates as I get them.
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on Sept 1, 2011, 1:55pm
Bink is slowly edging up on his one day deficit! His knee is better, but his shorts are blown! Now it is his big toe nail left foot getting infected... the journey continues at a record pace though!
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on Oct 12, 2011, 4:35pm
"Scott Williamson sets a new Pacific Crest Trail speed record Tuesday of 64 days 11 hours and 19 minutes."
I'm anxious to hear details!
Posted by
on Dec 16, 2011, 2:33pm
Bink is the Man,and Krud is also in that category. I wonder what Bink could do with just a little support,like a trailside resupply. I dont see an ethical problem with that. I truly beleive that nobody without previous pct hiking time could make a run at this record. I would hate to see anyone break this record,that does not love the PCT as much as Bink. Hes a true class act,and a great spokesman for long distance hikers. Hes never made himself bigger then the PCT,and works hard to continue his passion. Long live the PCT King!
Posted by Eurotrash on Mar 20, 2012, 8:16am
Good job Bink and congratulations on breaking the record.
I thru hiked the PCT 2011 and we actually met briefly on the trail.
What puzzles me a lot is, why would you wan't to hike the same trail 13 times? I hiked it and it's beautiful but there are more trails that you can hike in all over the world. Nepal, New Zealand, Japan, Austria and the list goes on...
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on Apr 1, 2012, 11:40am
Hello Everyone!
Ryan Weidert, AKA Tuna Helper here. Id like to let my intentions be known that I will be attempting to break the overall speed record (64 days 11 hours 19 minutes by Scott Williamson 2011) for hiking the entire length of the entire Pacific Crest Trail going northbound. I will adhere to the same self-supported and unassisted style as the current records. This style means a great many things, most of which Ive copied directly or paraphrased from the posts and correspondence of current record holders (Scott Williamsons (Bink) and Adam Bradley (Krusmeister)). In adhering to the guidelines of the current records, I will NOT have anyone following, or otherwise meeting me in prearranged manner to give me support. I plan to do this hike as a backpacker, carrying all of my food, equipment, and water between resupply towns. I will walk into supply towns to pick up mailed, prepackaged food boxes or to purchase food, then walk back to the trail via the same route I came in on. I will not be getting into a vehicle for any reason during this attempt, or skipping any section of trail. If I receive a lift from any vehicle or skip a portion of trail (no matter the distance) the attempt is off. I will be following the official PCT route, taking no detours, road walks or alternates of any kind.
I will be attempting to break this record as a solo hiker and will be starting sometime between May 20-30th. I will post my official start date once I have it pinned down. My main reasons for this attempt is to test myself and what I am capable of, the record being the bar in which to compare myself with other awesome endurance athletes. My ultimate goal is to hike the trail in under 60 days, however, completing it very fast is good enough, as I love the PCT. I am also planning my food and schedule to attempt a Yo-Yo. This, however is highly dependant on how I feel once (and if) I complete the trail. Ill periodically be in contact with family members and relay my progress, which I hope to have posted on FTK. Im willing to contact someone else I dont know as an outside contact to help verify my progress. I am considering taking a GPS to have extra verification of my hike since I am hiking solo and independent verification is more difficult. I want to be as open as I can with this so there is as little possibility of drama or questions if I manage to succeed. Any suggestions or comments as to how I can possibly improve my openness and or verify my hike more clearly will be welcome and considered. My admiration for the trail and those who hike it runs deep and I cant wait to test myself and get dirty!
-Tuna Helper
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Hi All,
I would like to update the departure date for my solo PCT "self supported" speed record attempt for 2012. I will be leaving the southern terminus at the Mexican border on May 25th, at 6:00am if everything goes to plan. During the attempt I will have a friend relay updates I send to him while on trail. I should be able to send a photo of my start via cell phone and have him post a link. Updates will be brief and intermittent, most likely more numerous in southern California. I'll post my current distance I've traveled and the coordinates of the last place I spent the night. If all goes well, I should arrive at the Canadian border in late July! All my previously mentioned intentions remain the same.
Tuna "Ryan Weidert" Helper
EDITED: Forgot to add 'am' to my 6:00 start time!
Posted by Bill Pi Murphy on May 26, 2012, 9:30am
I thought I'd start a thread in 'General', please move this if it belongs elsewhere. I'll be posting updates from Ryan Weidert as he hikes on the PCT.
He called Thursday (two days ago, before starting his hike) and he was watching a wildfire near Julian, CA that was near the trail. He has been intending to start on Friday the 25th for a while. Bummer, eh? Well, it didn't look too bad, and there is nice weather in so-cal, so why not start, and then take a 'do over' and start again if the fire holds him up?
Friday (yesterday) he called, said he was started. I'm not certain of the exact start time, but he had gone more than four miles and I hadn't yet even rolled over and looked at my clock radio. That's his most recent update.
His gear list is sparse, with a base weight around 8 and a FSO (from skin out, all clothes & such) around 11 pounds.
I don't know what makes a speed attempt a success or not, clearly there's some "what your born with" that goes into it.
If it's based on careful prep of all the supplies, things like ability (& patience!) to re-bag mac-n-cheese into ziplocks that have been perfectly resized to hold it, that now have a separate compartment for the cheese powder and an addition of an exact amount of parmesan, then I don't know anyone with a better shot at a record.
I'll update here when I know more.. No matter what, his summer hiking sounds pretty delux compared to my summer jockeying a desk job 5-days a week.
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on Jun 3, 2012, 1:18pm
Hi all,
Ryan started his hike just over a week ago; on a Friday morning approximately 6am. By friday (a week later) he was passing Cajon Pass, some 340'ish miles north. Yesterday, he was by the 'endangered toad detour' (which if I wasn't lazy I could correlate to a specific milage.. Somewhere like 380/390.) I'd figure that puts him at nearly-50 per day, maybe 48-50. I've done some fifty mile days, even once or twice done back-to-back fifties. I have no idea what a week of them feels like though!
He says he's making 3+mph consistently. Hunger hasn't turned on yet, he'd like it if the hunger didn't start till after the Sierras, but likely it will not hold for that long.
I'm not familiar with his exact plans, but I believe he is ahead of the previous records pace. Just one week in though, so much can still happen in a summer.
Thought everyone might enjoy hearing the update. I tried posting similar when he was two days in, but have lost the thread. Perhaps this is spam? This time I've registered, so if this is out of place, admins/mods please advise and I'll knock it off.
Happy trails all!
Posted by Bill Murphy on Jun 30, 2012, 8:35pm
Ryan past mile 1600 (approx Etna for those that know the trail) today. I'm not sure if my count is right, I think this is about 36.5 days. He is going strong, with a 51 mile day yesterday. I think the "CA record" is about to be taken by him in the next few days.
It is hard to be an arm-chair-hiker while getting his updates. I'm not sure of his mind set or goals currently, but from where I am it seems he is well aimed to go sub-60 days for his whole hike. Clearly there is a lot that can happen still and it is never certain, yet it is tempting to take his current pace and estimate out..
I hear on pct-l (and from Ryan) that there is still significant snow. He is entering the Marble Mountains and will know how it is very soon.
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Hi Sue! I know it's so hard to eat meat after seeing photos of those adorable cows. I am torn all the time but I do buy only humanely raised, free-range and organic beef when we do eat beef. I can't get away from it as my daughter is a meat lover.
So funny reading your post as I posted my first steak recipe ever. I am not a fan of meat photos so I almost didn't post it, but I had some friends begging for the recipe so I went ahead and posted it. We gotta do what we gotta do sometimes.I've made that same drive before. If you come back through Kansas, let me know and perhaps I can treat you to a meal in Topeka, which is right on I-70! My family raised beef cattle in Missouri, and another benefit to buying "happy" beef is it tastes better! I've been buying mine at the farmer's market lately, where I can ask all kinds of questions about where the meet came from.
ReplyDeleteThat photo of those black cows in that green, green grass is really nice. I make the big vote for humanly raised. I grew up on a farm/ranch in Kansas where that was exactly the case. I just don't think I could do without a hamburger, so probably will never give up beef. I buy from farmer's markets and a local provider where questions can be asked. Enjoy our beautiful state. I'm looking out my bedroom window at those same peaks as I type, and never get tired of those beautiful Rocky Mountains.
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Good for you for considering - and hopefully enacting - more humane eating choices. It's impossible to even put into words the torture that most animals humans eat are put through. If you need motivation, go watch videos on PETA's website or elsewhere on the web. It's not editorialized. It's real, truthful footage taken from cow and chicken "farms", egg factories, etc.
ReplyDelete I can't imagine driving for 6 days!
You are so right about humanely grown food. my husband says I'll only eat meat if I know the name of the animal. I cook organic, free range meat and only buy MSC fish and seafood, which means that here in England I tend to eat vegetarian food when I'm in restaurants. In Brittany I do eat fish as it is all locally caught and bought from the local fish markets.
I'm glad your journey is going well, the cows look so sweet.Your photo of the mamma and baby cow is stunning! I know what you mean about humanely raised - I've been doing that with chicken for a few years, it hadn't occurred to me about beef - I guess I have this image of them roaming freely on the range . . .
Oh, just so you know - McDonalds uses "pink slime" . . . just found that out last week! My husband and I were going to order a burger for our little road trip . . . so I asked and they said they do. Needless to say, we left. Wendy's does not use "pink slime."
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I can relate to your concerns about the meat industry. We have made a lot of changes in our own home over the past year or two. Finding a local ranch as a source for organic grass-fed beef has eased my mind a lot. Good luck with your decisions. It's not easy to make those changes.I went vegetarian for this very reason. Once I learned what really happened in factory farms, I couldn't bear the thought of it. I read more and more and it affirmed my decision. We have such a disconnect today from our food. Giving thought to how it appears on in our supermarkets and on our plate is life changing.
ReplyDeleteI went vegetarian for this very reason. Once I learned what really happened in factory farms, I couldn't bear the thought of it. I read more and more and it affirmed my decision. We have such a disconnect today from our food. Giving thought to how it appears on in our supermarkets and on our plate is life changing.
ReplyDeleteDey Dey's Beef is a family run ranch out of the Santa Barbara area that has a truck at the Studio City Farmer's market on most Sundays. They have grass fed, grass finished beef and hold an open house once a year.
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