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Spurred to action by comments by Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, members of the union that represents Montgomery County school bus drivers took to a Rockville street on Thursday morning.
About 20 members of SEIU Local 500 waved signs urging passing motorists to "Honk if you love your school bus driver" and depicting a report card giving Romney failing marks on schools, education and working families.
The protest, in front of Montgomery County Republican Party headquarters on Crabbs Branch Way, was prompted by Romney's comments about school bus drivers.
"When a young person makes the honor roll, I know it took a bus to get to school, but I don't give a bus driver credit for the honor roll," Romney said in Manassas, VA, on Aug. 11, the day he tapped Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin as his running mate.
(Cue up the 7:57 mark in this YouTube video to hear the comment.)
Romney has delivered variations of the line in stump speeches along the campaign trail.
His message is clear, bus drivers said.
"They're saying that the bus drivers do not contribute to the kids' education," said Lia Lee, a supervisor at the Shady Grove Depot who has worked for Montgomery County Public Schools for 11 years. "Yes, they're not teachers, but they are teaching them self-respect, they're teaching them how to talk, they're teaching them how to respect one another on the bus—the same rules as inside that school apply on that school bus."
Lee added: "We take pride in that statement, 'no child left behind' as well."
Bus drivers are often the first faces that students see when they leave home each school day, said Charles Montgomery, a county bus driver since 1989.
"Some of the kids don't have people to talk to them," he said. "When they get on the bus, they want someone to talk to them. We take them to school. We try to show them respect. In order to get respect, I tell them, you've got to earn it. We teach them that. We teach them being on time."
Romney is "trying to put us down," Montgomery said of bus drivers. "It's a hard job. And I love it."
Thursday's protest was mostly a show of support for drivers, Montgomery said. "But I hope it's political too. I'm not voting for [Romney]."
Rebecca Smondrowski, a candidate for the District 2 county school board seat from Gaithersburg who attended the protest, agreed with Montgomery that bus drivers set the tone for a child's day.
Smondrowski said that her son, Andrew, a 16-year-old special education student at Gaithersburg High School, tells her that the bus ride to school—when he talks with his bus driver and bus aide—is the best part of his day.
"Every child's day has the ability to be made or broken based on every adult that they come in contact with," she said. "Every adult in our students' lives is equally important."
The idea of value was a focus of an Aug. 13 column by The Washington Post's Eugene Robinson about Romney's bus driver line.
"What I hear Romney saying, and I suspect many others will also hear, is that the little people don't contribute and don't count," Robinson wrote.
The "PostPartisan" blog highlighted contrasts in reader reaction to Robinson's column.
"sedwards2" said Romney "wasn't saying anything negative about bus drivers or 'the little people,'" but was making a point about "apportionment of merit for one's achievements."
"There are people who empty the trash from our offices each night," sedwards2 wrote. "They are good, hard working and decent people. They may have their own successes and achievements, however they may define them, but they are not responsible for the growth or success of my business."
Another Post reader took exception with Romney's remark: "As a Republican I don't like the bus driver remark either," wrote "Peterroach."
"That individual is responsible for the safety for up to 40 kids, often unruly, boisterous children," he wrote. "Romney better think a little more before he talks about such things."
Protestors Thursday expressed similar sentiment, saying that the lives of the county's children are in their hands as buses leave depots at 6 a.m. every school day and venture out into rush hour traffic.
"Mitt Romney, you're so rude! We don't like your attitude!" the group chanted before union organizers attempted to deliver a petition to the county GOP office.
The petition, signed by protestors, "just asks Mitt Romney to respect bus drivers and working folks who get up every day and contribute to communities," said Christopher Honey, communications director for SEIU Local 500.
An initial attempt to deliver the petition was met without an answer at the door of the headquarters.
Montgomery County Republican Party Chairman Mark Uncapher did not return a call for comment on Thursday. Uncapher is part of the Maryland delegation at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, which concluded with Romney's acceptance speech Thursday night.
Joe Thomas
8:18 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
Give me a break. Bus drivers just chill. You are looking for a problem. How about spending your spare time losing weight or stop smoking?
10:51 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
I drive the school bus while I am attending college full time. I am neither overweight or smoke. My bus carries 70 kids ages 4 to 18, no other adult aid riding. Let's see if you have the determination and skills to deal with that in an appropriate manner, while driving a 14 ton vehicle safely in every sort of weather condition.
8:21 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Talk about looking for a problem. Could you comment be more ignorant and inappropriate. Stereotypes are just a small minds attempt to pigeon hole the masses! Not every bus drive is fat, nor smokes. Perhaps you are confusing TV with reality.
8:28 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
Sturm und drang signifying nothing. NADO. ZILCH. ZERO.
e. curran
8:47 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
Oh please. Get real. Bus drivers teach respect? They teach them to be on time? Its called a bus schedule.
If the best part of that kids day is talking to the bus driver, who is supposed to be driving not taking, perhaps the parent needs to pay more attention to the kid. This is nothing but garbage from the seiu union.
9:21 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
It is time for the citizens of Montgomery County to wake up to the facts that the unions are in full control of our elected leaders. They support the politicians in exchange for getting sweetheart pay contracts that the county will find they cant afford. The unions are for more concerned about their benefits than the success of the students. Maybe the county should consider contracting out this work as many school districts do.
9:28 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
?? They're just like any other group of constituents. And nowhere near the most powerful group at that. Get out on a street corner and care about something if you'd like to be listened to as well. It's called democracy, hate it if you must, but "wake up" - that's what this country's about.
B Allen
10:36 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Yeah Jag(off) you are quite right. If you want to go out on the street and protest something, then that is a good thing...even if you are like these SEIU members who make total fools of themselves. They are just showing that they have NO CLUE whatsoever of what was said, just what the SEIU shop steward told them...Yes you can live in the USA and still be brainless...this is a perfect example. Oh BTW, you and your little girlfriends are perfect examples also.
9:47 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
I stand with the bus drivers! No one should have their job demeaned from a podium by a presidential candidate. Everyone who works in the schools makes a unique contribution and deserves respect. Thanks, bus drivers, for everything you've done for my daughter--including years and years of rides in perfect safety.
B Allen
7:49 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
dcr, wtf. Romney was not putting down the busdrivers... He was paying tribute to those who WORK HARD (Something libtards don't know about) and make the honer roll. If your kid makes the honor roll (which I doubt) would you tell them to thank their bus driver for helping them? Such a dumb statement. You look at the comment as a typical lib who reverse the words around, to make another FALSE statement, then you go on attack... GROW UP
Doug in Rockville
5:35 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
First, B Allen calls you "libtard" for pointing out the unflattering depiction Romney made, then he instructs you to "GROW UP". Hmmm, I wonder who needs the maturing in this exchange more?
B Allen
10:58 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
@Dougiegirl, guess you want to join the spoiled little girls that post on here and attack people who point out the fact that you people are REAL BIG on rule #12 rules for radicals... You like to pick a topic, change the wording to suit your infantile thought process, then try and throw it out there as what was said. Yes, you are libtards or if you don't like me calling YOU that, I will change my descriptive adjective of you to libturd,,, I am GROWN UP and I can back my words up...DUDE! (and I only use that word in a derogatory fashion) YOU are the ones who need to grow up. There I answered your question about who needs to grow up.
2:09 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
I do not want busdrivers to impart any political affiliations onto any children other than their own. They have no special training other than a chauffer's licence to "provide input for the child's education" (ridiculous). To consider the bus driver as a educational contributor is absurd.
4:09 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Our Montgomery County school bus drivers and attendants do so much more than get our kids from point A to point B. My 3 year-old twins have special needs and began taking the bus this summer to their ESY programs. The transition was not easy for them, because I've never even dropped them off anywhere and because of their communication delays. One driver held and comforted one of my girls one day until she calmed down; another driver proudly explained my child's artwork one day, because I had no idea what it represented. These drivers and attendants helped them to start their day on the right foot. There were no tears after day 2. I received reports about my kids' singing, sleeping, smiling, waving, etc. They deserve our gratitude and respect, and you better believe I am teaching my kiddos to thank them every day, whether or not Mitt Romney thinks we should.
B Allen
7:57 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
another who does not get it. You people just don't get it. It ALL goes back to what NObama said about people who own a business...that they did not do it on their own...BE FOR REAL. You libbies are running scared that you "almighty" is going to get kicked out of the white house and the door is going to hit him in the butt on the way out. Get the facts staraight and quit trying to make FALSE statements out of the REAL words that were used. YOu people flip things around and make fools out of yourself when you make comments that are totally off base. My kids make honor roll, I pat them on the head and tell them good job. I don't thank the bus driver, I also thank the teachers. This is just the union people, who are running scared and KNOW that Romney is going to win...they are afraid because they saw what happened in Wisconsin, their public school union membership is almost depleted. When the teachers and workers were given a choice, because of the REPUBLICAN GOV, gave them that choice, they quit the union. That means a reduction in "dues" they collect. to pay their big fat salaries. GET THE FACTS.
Doug in Rockville
5:37 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
B Allen, you mean like the facts in VP Ryan's speech, that EVEN your precious Fox News derided as "full of lies"? LOL!!!
B Allen
10:45 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
@Dougie...well you sound like yet another kool aide drinker is coming out of the closet. No facts, no figures, just hearsay, rants and raves with no meaning or truth behind anything you people say. Just attacks, like good little followers of the Nobama playbook and the rules for radicals. Let see, what rule number are you folling right now? Rule#5 or is it #6??? Every time you people open your mouth...YOU show how foolish you are. Pay attention the the facts, figures and the attachments I post. I guess you missed the one with the seiu members (all 5 busloads of them) tresspassing on the guys property banging on the front door with bullhorns, with the 14yo son in the house afraid and cowering (as a good little son of a leftie does) in the closet. Like I said, i would love to see all those people "tresspass" on my property, with my son in the house. I don't think they would get off the property in one piece. You lefties keep trying thuggish tactics, well you will get burnt.
G Hinson White
10:53 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
CCB, you are absolutely correct. But totally off the subject. Once again, real slow; Romney...said...that ...bus ...drivers ...were ...not ...responsible...for...a...child...making...the....honor...roll.
He did not demean them any more than if he had said that the mailman was not responsible for the kid making Honor Roll even though he may have delivered the announcement to the kids home.
Willard Backnforth
5:03 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Give me a break. The unions again just wanting to find fault and do anything they can to cause political problems. They know damn well the meaning of the statement that was made. You lame brain idiots.
7:06 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
We might know what he was trying to say, but the point here is, how does this comment make him appear? The answer is that it makes him sound like an elitist who doesn't acknowledge that it's the small acts done by many people that make for student success at school. It takes a bus driver to get them there, a janitor to make sure they have clean classrooms to learn in, a cafeteria worker to make sure they receive a nutritious breakfast and/or lunch to get them through the day, a health aide to care for them when they are sick, etc., up to and including the teachers and administrators who teach and guide the students everyday. Yes, it does take a village, and no, no one makes it all on their own. Romney and Ryan are missing the point, and are demonstrating their self-centeredness with these kinds of comments.
B Allen
8:02 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Meesh, NOT what he said... you look at it like a typical libtard, change the facts around, fabricate what was said, then attack the fabrication of the truth and what was said. What Romnet said, is congratulate your kid for working hard and making the honor role. It is a shame that you typical libtards don't know what a hard days work is. When I landed a multimillion dollar deal with a customer, the companies I represented thanked me for the hard work, not the president of my company or the sales manager. Get with the program and stop making false statements and making a fool out of yourself, just like ALL the other libtards that post on this NObama administration sounding board. That is ALL this Patch(work) is, a sounding board for libtards.
9:38 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Bus drivers don't teach kids anything, they should just get over themselves. They're responsible for getting kids to and from school on time and that's it. During my middle school years I rode the bus everyday and was bullied and molested every time I got on or off the bus. Where we're those "teaching" bus drivers to stand up for me? And I'm just one person- I know there are countless others who were ignored everyday on those buses. I had plenty of experience with bus drivers and I AM voting for Romney :)
omar kamaliza
10:03 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Bus drivers should stop t arm twisting Romney&the Republicans-cos they know their role im kids education is zero!
B Allen
8:10 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
there goes jag(off) making a fool of itself again. Whats that matter jag(off), you and your spoiled rotten little girlfriends have not had your little "circle" (you know what) get together lately and you are having a mood swing? I suggested before that you need to go back to your doctor and get your meds inceased to maximum dosage...hahaha. I LOVE seeing you little libtards make fools of yourself. In case you have not received the memo, the unions are scared that they are going to lose memberships when Romney becomes President, just as the unions membership in Wisconsin is less than half, since the GOP Gov gave them a choice to either stay in the union or get out and save the money they pay in dues for themselves. Also, the unions lost a lot of money trying to reacall Gov Walker of Wisconsin. You little girls are sooooo funny to watch on this NObama sounding board. YOU LOSE AGAIN!!!
B Allen
10:45 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Jag(off) typical comeback because you cannot think of another lie to combat my truth. You are slipping from the rules of radical playbook...don't you know the best rule to follow when someone counters your lies and deceit? Let me give you a clue, go back to your playbook and look up R4R number 8. What is says is, when we hit you with a true fact or figure, then come back on attack with some lie or decietful story, But when that all fails, as you all do quite regularly, go to number 7...
omar kamaliza
10:07 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Bus drivers need to chill out. Because th whole know that their in kids education is Zero, and that's da way it's!
B Allen
10:53 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
good point Omar, but the unions need to be blamed more for taking advantage of their members. I really feel sorry for the members who are forced by the democrats to pay dues (legal extortion) instead of putting that money towards retirement. The so called "dues" are then spent on high salaries for the union leaders and on democrat politicians (and I use that term loosely, they are really idiots). Then the union people come back to the democrat government trough to have taxes raise, especially in MD, so they can get more money. There was NOTHING derogatory that was said about bus drivers...they just made it up to be that way...you know, the lib ways of twisting the truth into something that is not factual and then attacking their own lies....it is the socialist/communist/liberal propaganda way...just another play out of the Saul Alinsky rules for radiacal...the one NObama follows
Emmy Fafa
1:01 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
I agree with bus drivers, they contribute a lot to the kids education. My little nephew is always happy to see the bus coming to pick him up to school. He never allow the mum to take him to school. That's a big releaf from his dad and mum that the bus is there to him to school since they need to go to work early. These big mouth over rich politicians should learn how to respect we the middle class for we are the ones that build the nation. They carry all the business to China and them and now looking for someone to blame.
B Allen
8:14 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Emmy, your opinion is nothing more than an attack.. It makes NO sense whatsoever. Again, you are probably another libtard who just does not understand what was said. There was NO attack against the bus drivers. You libtards turned the facts around, made another story and attack your own fabrication of the truth. AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER TACTIC FROM THE BOOK THAT NO BAMA FOLLOWS, THE RULES FOR RADICALS. Change the facts and go on attack, because the libs cannot think for themselves. They will follow. Read it, it is in there.
B Allen
11:02 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
BTW Emmy your comment "These big mouth over rich politicians should learn how to respect we the middle class for we are the ones that build the nation" What are you jealous or something. A rule I learned a LONG time ago is to NOT look at what other people have, look at what YOU have and strive and work hard to achieve what they have. The more you look at what they have the more jealous and full of hatred you will get. The GOPers want YOU to achieve, the dems want you to stay where you are and NOT achieve, mediocrity is what they want to see. Also, your reference to doing business in China, didn't you know that the Clintons had a very LARGE stake in making that happen? Hillary when she was on the board of directors at WalMart and Slick Willy when he was raping women as Gov in Ark and then when he also used women as sex objects in the white house. CMON, wake up and smell the coffee. The REAL truth is out there, all you have to do is get offf your butt and make it happen. I came from a poor white family and I have done quite well and have made a very good living that i could not have to work at 55...I am now 58
G Hinson White
10:58 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Emmy, you may be correct in that the bus drivers 'can' (some do, many don't) contribute to a kids overall education. But read my other posts please or even read Romney's statement. Bus drivers do NOT contribute in any way to a kid making honor roll which is strictly scholastic. It has nothing to do with attitude, self esteem, etc.
e. curran
7:28 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
News flash: Romney did not disrespect anyones job. And btw, those companies pay huge amounts of taxes that support an out of control eDucation system in mc. Summer buses for 3 year old s? No wonder our taxes are out control.
B Allen
8:18 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
exactly e. Now if the union members were so smart, they would go against the unions just so they do not have to pay those "dues" every month. They could put the money into an IRA or 401K or even into a savings account. Just look how the union membership has gone down in Wisconsin because the GOP Gov gave them that choice. Seems the union members in MD are not so smart afterall. These guys were out protesting because they are running scared right now.
J Galt
10:19 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
It's comical to read the collectivist, it-takes-a-village, union supporting lefties start slobbering and whining when the next President of the United States makes any reference to individual achievement. They immediately become overwhelmed with fear that the nanny state is at risk of being dissolved by free-thinking, hard-working individuals - the values that make this country great. The union depicted in this article is just sad and did a grave disservice to bus drivers. Romney attacked no one. He merely pointed out that individuals achieve their goals and credit should not be given to union organized, public servants who are simply doing their jobs. What's even more sad is that people need someone to explain this to them....
Christopher Kidwell
9:32 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
With all due respect, it DOES take a village to raise a child in the real world. That you don't want to admit that reeks of not understanding that we live in a society where everyone's actions have a direct or indirect effect on everyone else, either positive, negative or neutral.
B Allen
9:27 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
@Christopher WELL Kid...wow, you take it hook, line and sinker...the dem party has you fooled. Living off the government has you brainwashed...oh yeah, I forgot, in order to be part of the dem party, you need to have 98% of your grey matter extracted, or so it seems, since none of you can make a coherent thought on here. It ALL sounds the same, same ol story, same ol rhetoric, same ol lies, same ol same ol...pretty boring if you ask me. "Rules for Radicals RULE 7: "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news" YOU PEOPLE ARE JUST THAT...OLD NEWS....
3:08 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
I'm an MCPS teacher and a parent. The bus ride sets the tone for the day. Often, the drivers are the first to detect there's a problem and are quick to inform school staff that we need to pay special attention to particular kids' family situation or peer interaction. Thank you, MCPS bus drivers. I'm a registered Independent.
B Allen
8:31 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Alicia, if you are a registered "independant" then you would NOT fall for the propaganda the left puts out there. Too many people have been lied to SOOO much by this guy in the white house, tha you think that everything said is a lie. That is NOT what (soon to be pres) Romney said. It was basically an attack on Nobama saying that "if you own a business, you did not build it yourself". That my friend was an attack on ALL small business owners, entrepenures, rich people, some not so rich, or even just comfortable with what they are making. He slapped Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and other business people right in the face. What Romney was saying, because there are those of us who always think the "glass is half full", that it is GOOD to congratulate your child for working hard and making the honor roll. The bus driver, the janitor, one of the TOO MANY administrators in MCPS did not help your kid make the honore roll. I would thank the teacher for that. Don't listen to the propaganda from the left because that is what it is. Take what is said, make a new statement, then go on attack. 5th rule for radicals.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
9:49 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Have I missed something in this conversation? When a child achieves honor roll status, is that not because the child has put forth enormous effort to stay focused, learn and achieve much extra credit due to the extra effort given. Can we just permit the child to receive the honor and not have to take the time to thank the village? What the devil is happening to our country that we lose it if not given credit for saying hello, good morning, have a good day, just being nice as part of a child's achieving honor roll status? This is getting scary folks!!
J Galt
5:01 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Alicia, I'm sure those bus drivers are qualified to weigh in on such matters. Good grief. Youre really stretching it to connect an individual's success to public employees.
7:58 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
I rode a bus for three years in middle school in the '70's and was picked on mercilessly the entire time. The only thing the bus driver ever did was to yell at me if I ever reacted to the sadistic taunts of my classmates.
ricardo gonzalez
1:13 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Water seeks its level, bus drivers are qualified to drive, nothing more or less, they should be discouraged from anything but looking straight ahead. The fact that they are paying dues for this union nonsense confirms it. Shut up and drive.
B Allen
8:37 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
ricardo, well said. hahaha. It is just the union people running scared because they saw what happened in WIsconsin when they tried to recall Scott Walker. They spent a lot of UNION MEMBERS money it having the recall, which the union members will NEVER get back, and LOST BIG TIME! Big WINNERS in that reall, the PEOPLE, the taxpayers and the children. Now the EX union members get more in their paychecks and they can put away in an IRA, money Market, 401K, 529 plan, etc...All because of a GOP GOV who stood up to the big money unions. Now wisconsin has more money for education and the elderly.
8:16 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
If bus drivers only job was getting children from point a to point b we would have many more bus accidents. Children would be standing, screaming, sticking arms heads legs out of windows. It takes everyone that works for the board of education for a child to be successful.
B Allen
11:15 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Traci, what the heck are you talking about. The kids do all of that and the bus drivers just report them...Also, when a bus driver gets "from point a to point b" that means that they did their job that they are getting paid for and are REWARDED for it. Why are you taking it away from the children for doing a good job, working hard to get good grades? Did your parents tahnk others for you being mediocre at best when you were growing up. I bet you are even one of those who think kids should get "participation trophies", even if they did not contribute and they suck at what sport they are trying to play. I would NEVER reward a kid for failing...better left to go unsaid. I think it is a GREAT thing that a guy like Romney would praise someone for a "job well done". Look at NOBAMA, he praises himself more so than the Navy Seals for taking out binladen, even though it took him 16 hours to say yes, in between playing golf.
8:27 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Wow. The fact that people are actually weighing in against bus drivers is shocking and troubling. Let's be honest if President Obama made these same comments about bus drivers the same individuals weighing in against them would be weighing in WITH them. This partisan nonsense is such a joke. Let the shock and awe about this comment post begin.....
B Allen
11:18 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Phillip, actually we are not weighing in aganst bus drivers. We are weighing in against the seiu for using their members as pawns (even though the pawns allow themselves to be used) and against the libs who have twisted the facts, into a fictional statement and then attack the fictional statement. That is where the fun begins, making the libs look like a bunch of fools, as they are.
B Allen
8:44 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
All this is, and to the author of this one sided article, is grabbing for straws for the democrtic party, here on the NObama sounding board. They know their time is running short and they are trying to use whatever SLEAZY tactic they can come up with to con their followers (and you people know who you are because you cannot think for yourself, you go with their flow). It is sooo funny to watch these so called (well they think they are) intellectuals, not being able to think for themselves. Whats the saying now, "to think outside the box"??? Well, if you self professed "intellectuals" were so smart, why do you let others do your thinking for you and you have NO idea what the issues are about or what is actually said. If the unions were sent packing, you people in the unions would get more in your paychecks...GO figure that one out.
You made me laugh!
8:46 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
I think that given your deep understanding of how unions operate you should consider a position in education preferably somewhere creationism is taught. I also want you to know that your clever use of libtard and nobama is such a clever way to make a point without as you say "going on the attack". When you used loser and village idiot, that kind of did come across as an attack. But given your incredible intellect I am sure you knew that. Anyway B Allen thanks for showing all the libtards exactly who makes up the conservative movement. We need real Americans like you!
Christopher Kidwell
9:34 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Agreed, You made me laugh! B Allen, I am sorry to say, sounds like the 'gubmint' hating losers who live in West Virginia who I reminded that their Social Security checks were coming from the government when I overheard them griping about the government.
That shut them up REAL quickly.
Many conservatives love to gripe about the government but fail to realize that private enterprise has F A I L E D at doing many things until? The federal government gets on board and takes over planning for X or Y thing.
B Allen
9:09 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
@You made...you are right, I grew up in the "union environment" and I DO have a very deep understanding of how unions work. My "family" has run unions for yrs. up north. Don't you just hate it when someone has a better understanding than you do? BTW, I was a democrat for 30 yrs and hated listening to what what going on in the party.
B Allen
9:20 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
@Christopher...WOW you are either stupid, naive, lamebrained or a combo of all? HA, you think you are so smart and you shut people up? They are probably laughing at you because of your inflated ego of yourself, just like you buddy NObama, Biden and pelosi and Ried, Nomalley and all those other egotisical jackasses (you ALL emulate your party mascot). Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. I would venture to say you people are OVERdosing on egotism.
J Galt
8:05 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Now Franklin you've entered into the realm of nonsense. Of course thats all unions do......the ellipses are for you sonny.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
10:01 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
And Frank said: "No, Lorna. You imagined a lot of weird random gibberish that has nothing to do with what Alicia or the article actually said" Actually Frank, I was responding to comments regarding the article itself.....comprende' ?
Lorna D. Rudnikas
7:00 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
Let's not utilize your same old intimidation tactics, like you always do, honey child!!!
B Allen
9:30 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
Frankiegirl, is that the best you can do? You are soooooooooo lame...take your thorazine and go back to bed for a while.
B Allen
8:41 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
That is all these left wing lunitics do, they try to intimidate. Just look at the NObama playbook "rules for radicals" that NObama and his minions, like these libtards follow and post nonsense on here. They follow these rules but hate it when they are hit right back. I like #2, stay within your peoples expertise, HAHAHA, that means when you have no facts and figures or any truth, spin the words and go on attack. Then move to #12... I really do hope you people try an "american fall" that the communist Van Jones was calling for...come into my neighborhood and see if you make it out. hehehe. You people are trying harder and harder to follow these rules by increasing the attacks now because you see your "saviors" end coming in November. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
Lorna D. Rudnikas
10:15 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
and Frank said: "Buy yourself a dictionary, Lorna"....Frank darling, have you still not caught up with the fact that "engrandeured" is a word?...as in, "self-engrandeured as in engrandeured sense of your own self-importance," "conceit-engrandeured," so many, many uses that you should recognize ........... :-)
B Allen
11:04 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
hahaha Lorna, I try to keep to 3 or 4 letter words for frankiegirl and his girlfriends to understand...they have such a over inflted ego and they have to feed off their egotism because Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
11:12 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
Actually B Allen, i consider it my duty to challenge Monsieur Frank with words, ideas, perceptions, truth, consequences, patriotism, on and on......... And then, sit back and enjoy the twists, turns and spins that result. It actually can be an important learning experience, observing how the far left reasoning actually evolves.
B Allen
11:25 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Lorna, all you have to do is look at the Communist Saul Alinsky's rules for radicals, obamas' playbook that he follows and has since he was a community organizer for ACORN. These people think thay are empowered because he is in the white house, so they go by that playbook.
11:37 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Oh how we forget that a clock has many parts none greater than it's sum. We as a nation was not built on individualism. We don't have to acknowledge everything or everyone that plays a part in our success, but we must realize we are the sum of many.
11:42 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
B Allen: I'm not a democrat but you seem to harp on them creating a fake message when there is none. Obama's comment about if you have a business you didn't build that is a perfect example of Republicans doing that. He was clearly saying if you have a business you didn't build the roads and bridges and other existing infrastructure the government provides. That's 100% true. What Republicans have done with that statement is ridiculous.
B Allen
1:56 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
So you tell me, Mr bright one...what came first, the automobile or the highway system? Better yet, what came first, expansion of the USA with towns, roads the government or the Railroad? I venture to say that PRIVATE INDUSTRY but the government into business. We the people hire these people (and in some respects stupid people) to take care of our infrastucture. We give them the money and the dems want to waste more and more and take more and more from us. That is the way the dems want and try to get power.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
11:52 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
I beg you pardon Dave, Mr. Obama clearly said "...you did not build that..." Now his folks are trying to convince everyone he "did not mean" that. One can certainly argue that point, but one cannot argue what he actually said and I for one, have not heard him refute the allegations. Perhaps he could announce a rewording of it so that it will "go away!!!" Something like is being done by Mr. O'Malley regarding his original answer NO to a question regarding our economic status over the past four years. I think the term currently being used in Washington political circles is "misspoke."
12:19 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Only someone who is too lazy or dumb to know the context of the statement would fall for the soundbite. You know that and I know that. Same as Mitt Romney saying "I like to fire people." Except Dems don't need to rely on "swiftboating" their opponents and trying to deceive uneducated voters. They, you know, have real issues to rely upon.
7:21 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Yes. He clearly said "you did not build that" after saying there are roads and there are bridges. If you have a business, you did not build that. Again, I'm not a democrat (or republican) and don't care who wins because neither man is a leader. They both pander to the extreme of their party which will not fix anything. I am simply tired of hearing republicans say Obama said you didn't build your business when he didn't say that. And he doesn't need a reword, he needs people to listen to the speech.
B Allen
9:35 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
yeah Dave, listen to the speech of blaming everyone else because of their lack of leadership, ineptitude, amaturistic, anti business, anti success, mediocre loving, bigoted, racist and sexist ideaologies. Oh and then there is Joe Biden with his superior intellect...just had to through that in, I can't believe NObama kept him on the roster.
B Allen
9:44 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
jag(off), yeah you people made a big deal about that too. Why Not fire someone who did not do the job and cost the company money? If you were ever smart enough, (well, NObama says people are not smart enough to build their own business, guess he was thinking about libs who may have a business), why would you let that person stay and take away from your profits? Maybe you are dumber that you really show with your comments
B Allen
9:45 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
@Frankiegirl, were you stomping your feet and holding your breath when you posted that comment? (Frank..."Conservatives' attention span seems to be limited to 5-8 words." what a pansie.
9:50 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
B Allan the only thing I'm saying is the republican sound byte of if you have a business you didn't build that is misleading. He was talking about infrastructure. I am not defending him on anything else. I am not an Obama supporter, I hear "facts" and research them myself. I don't base opinions on sound bytes from super PACS.
B Allen
10:23 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
@Dave, I heard what he said. the GOP did not sway me in any way. I know he had, nor the government had any hand in me starting a couple of businesses but I gave Nobama the benefit of the doubt. I am saying it was a stupid thing to say, being that he is anti business and all, even though he says is is all for businesses propering. I guess that is why he wants the small business owners to be taxed at higher rates, just because thay are successful, which will take more out of business to grow and prosper? Sure our government builds roads and bridges, but WE as taxpayers pay for it. So really the government does not build it, they use our money to fund a project. We hire them to do a job, they need to get it done and if they cannot do the job, we should fire them. and Romney is just the guy to fire Obama for ALL Americans. We don't need the government being our "keepers", as the Nobama and the dems think.
Doug in Rockville
5:40 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Wrong. Read the whole statement in context. Lazy is right!
B Allen
11:36 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Dougiegirl, I did read the statement...YOU need to read MY statement. BTW, LAZY is the leftist way, just as you shown by not reading my statement.
Christopher Kidwell
12:48 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Dave, wake up. Obama did not say "You did not build that!" he said "You did not build that alone!" when you take the statements in the proper context.
The bottom line is that you do NOT build a business all on your own in this day and age. It is your employees and various other people (your customers, your backers) who help you build X business.
Most businesses today treat their employees, who are probably going to be their customers sooner or later if their products are any good, like shit. They give them an unliving wage that is not enough to support themselves most of the time without cutting out near everything or actually everything that makes living in America so great.
Then, they wonder why their business starts dropping off.
B Allen
2:18 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Again Chrissy KID yourself well...not what was said. Go listen again. I know your attention span is maybe 0.5ns but you can pause each word that he said and write it down...BTW, I have seen you are STILL giving excuses for being inadequate and mediocre at best, but I still question you even being mediocre. Get the facts before you stick something in your mouth again.
Christopher Kidwell
4:58 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
B Allen, stop with the personal attacks please.
And yes, that is exactly what he said BEFORE he said "You do not make your own business!" He meant solely by oneself. Which is bluntly true.
Taking a statement out of context is something that only nitwits who are trying to make a point and cannot make it with the WHOLE statements put out by the person do.
But then again, that is par for the course for conservatives and Republicans. They love to do that and then whine and scream when it is done to them.
B Allen
10:53 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Chrissy Kid yourslf well, I am NOT attacking, I tell it like it is. You are dumber than a stump and I am sure my doorknob has more personality than you. Knowing Nobamas anti capitalist ideology, he knew what he was saying and he was attacking the wealthy beause he was playing to the idiots in the crowd.
You idiots always like to point the finger, because of your incompetent, lazy, jealous attitudes. Just because you are all of that and a spoiled little brat, does not mean you have to always attack those who work hard, invest their own time money and energy and live the American dream. You are sooo stupid that you REALLY are talking about you village idiots (you call yourself and idiot) on the left...just think about what you are saying here, seems like the union people and you people took what Romney said out of context.
"Taking a statement out of context is something that only nitwits who are trying to make a point and cannot make it with the WHOLE statements put out by the person do.But then again, that is par for the course for conservatives and Republicans. They love to do that and then whine and scream when it is done to them." I guess we can cross out consevative and Republicans and insert libtards and village idiot DUMBOcraps. hahaha not laughing with you, laughing AT you
Christopher Kidwell
5:40 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
B Allen, yes, you are attacking. You insult, call names, etc. like a damned two year old who is in an argument does.
If that isn't attacking, then nothing is.
B Allen
11:38 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
yeah Lorna, ol jag takes that shot of koolaide every morning along with the thorazine. That is what keeps her faithful to "the cause"
Lorna D. Rudnikas
12:30 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
jag remarks "I, however, won't hesitate to point out when it is completely devoid of logic or fact (like your belief that this country is going to collapse w/o Mitt Romney being elected President)" I should clarify that I do not think our country will actually collapse if we don't immediately head in another direction...but I do firmly believe that the "forward" direction currently espoused by Mr. Obama for another four years will be a long, long road to recover come...if we do at all. We are very young, we are very special, don't play games with our wonderful country and all we hold dear. Death by a thousand stings, if unchecked, may be out undoing. Walk softly and take care who is in the mix. Just the perception of a retired worker bee!
12:37 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Well thank you for partially walking back your statement about our country's imminent demise. I believe the term currently being used in Washington political circles is "misspoke."
B Allen
11:41 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
yeah, the dems have to keep going back and saying they "misspoke"...How about the one with NOmalley saying one day that Americans are not better off now after 3 yrs of NObama, then turning around the next day and saying he misspoke and said American are...hahaha what an idiot. His IQ must be as high as Bidens, what is is like a -84...hahaha
Lorna D. Rudnikas
12:58 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
You are most welcome jag...If in fact this is what I said and you are not dramatizing it, imminent demise was never my intent (don't know how far back I have to go in my responses to find it), but no matter. If in fact I did use the term "imminent" demise or collapse, I would beg to change that to "slow" and very specific well planned undermining of our country, that if permitted to continue "forward" unchecked, might well signal a coup de grace for our beloved country within four more years. I am not sure that I have explained my thoughts in an intellectual manner that you approve of, but just wanted to soften your interpretation of "imminent" if you know what I mean.
Laura Capu
5:04 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
My parents taught me and my siblings to have respect for everyone regardless of their job or status... how demeaning to suggest that this group of people, union or not, are any less responsible for the care of our children...it doesn't take much to share praise.
B Allen
11:54 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
@Laura, well, you have misundersood what was said. Romney NEVER said what these union people are implying. They are doing this because quite a bit of their members dues are going into the NObama campaign, regardless if the union members do not support NObama and they support Romney. This is why Joe Biden just said the other day, "we are with the unions". They don't care about people in the unions.
Laura Capu
8:53 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
@BAllen...well, now that you've explained my misunderstanding it's much more clear. Are you certain Mr Romney NEVER said what the union people are saying? He has quite a track record of saying one thing one day and another the next and regardless of what he says, whether he remembers what he said or not, he stands by what he says...until he doesn't.
B Allen
2:41 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
@Laura...not a very bright remark. As a matter of fact, it is quite typical of you lefties not being able to understand anything at all. That is why your (lack of leadership) leaders will constuct Tall Tales and lies, knowing it will get by you people. Those who can understand, know that NOTHING bad was said about bus drivers. The union members are at fault for allowing the union to brainwash them into not being able to think for themselves. So tell me, what has Romney flip-flopped on, give me an example. Was it like NObamas, I was not for gay rights until time came to get their vote, then I was for it? Or was it, I am going to reverse the debt because Bush was unpatriot in raising the debt $5B in 8 yrs when I increased it $9B more in 3 yrs? Or is it, I am going to reduce the unemployed but Now I am staring at 8.3% (realist 19%) unemployment. I cannot think of any flip-flopping that he has done, seems he and Ryen been fairly consistant, because it is easier to tell the truth than it is to lie...NOW we know why NObama and his crew lie and lie to cover up the lies. So let's see if you can enlighten me as to what Romney flipped on.
Christopher Kidwell
5:42 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
B Allen, read into his statements and take them with the other statements that he has made. It is obvious that Romney and the conservacreeps (what I personally call them) are unfriendly to Unions at best if not seeing them like as a scourge on America.
I personally don't buy that Unions are the source of all ills in America and I truly think that most employers are overly demanding on their work amounts today. I mean, one employer I worked for wanted us to pack 100 boxes an hour in a warehouse.
I am sorry, but depending on how much was supposed to go in the boxes, that was way too much to do in an hour but they had nothing to monitor the amount that was going into the box.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
5:12 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
i totally agree with you, but perhaps have misunderstood. I had the most wonderful school bus drivers through my middle and high school days..long, long ago. I thought we were concentrating on classroom work and extra curricular work that required extra focused time to achieve honor roll status. Of course children are influenced by many different folks in their communities...but how did we get off of work directly related to achieving honor roll status?
Doug in Rockville
5:44 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Does anyone else notice the propensity of "right-wing" commenters on these messages boards to hurl insults and slurs at other commenters with whom they might disagree? I'm sure it goes both ways, but at least on this thread, it seems like some people who wanted to say that they appreciate and respect their community bus drivers are being called all sorts of nasty names, or politically suggestive words like "collectivist". Ooooooo yikes, don't you dare thank people for doing a good job or your a big bad communist! LOL, please! You guys need to go outside and breath some fresh air. Plant something in the garden. Go for a bike ride, or something, please.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
5:57 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Jeez Doug, I didn't get all of that out of it, but agree things did seem to go a bit overboard. Going outside, breath fresh air, planting something in the garden..great ideas!!!
B Allen
12:36 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Dougiegirl, wow what a bunch of gibberish. Noone ever said anything derogatory about bus drivers, NOT even Romney, until the SEIU people twisted the words around and made an issue out of it...you know just like rules for radical #12. Which I am sure you are WELL versed in. You and your spoiled little girlfriends are just the reason why I left the democrat party after 30 yrs.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
5:54 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
And so Dave, it seems that President Obama should have said...if you built your business, paid your taxes then you as well as all the other tax paying citizens of our country built these highways, bridges, byways, tunnels, with their hard earned money and by doing so provided the jobs necessary to build them. No sense in turning it around - upside down- that is not what he said, period!! Is that what he meant to say? Oh oh, now we need to ask each and every time he and Biden give a speech if what they are saying or have said is what they really meant to say. We could always give them several hours post speech to let their managing team review and have them return with....blah, blah, blah is not what I really meant to say. Yikes!!!
7:43 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Any one with a basic level of listening comprehension can listen to what he said and understand it. Again, I'm not an Obama supporter. I'm just tired of hearing Obama said you didn't build your business. I heard the sound byte on an ad and thought there is no way the sitting president can be do stupid as to say that. So I looked it up. I believe the exact quote was there are roads, there are bridges. If you have a business you...you didn't build that. People voting essentially based on the attack ads from the party they are affiliated with is annoying. Republicans are as much to blame for the current state of the country as democrats. Until members of both parties figure that out, people like me will continue to smile at the stupidity of my fellow Americans!
Christopher Kidwell
2:46 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Dave, again: Obama did not say that people did not 'build their businesses'. He was saying that they DID NOT BUILD THEIR BUSINESSES ALONE! WITHOUT THEIR WORKERS THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE THEIR BUSINESSES TURN A PROFIT!
That is what Obama said, that creating businesses and keeping them running is NOT done by one person but by MANY, sometimes THOUSANDS, of people.
Some of which are not being paid a fair wage today in the slightest and are being forced onto public assistance programs that get them ridiculed on a regular basis by the conservatives because of that lack of a fair wage.
B Allen
11:38 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Hell, I NEVER had a government worker than me for all the tax dollars I have paid in order to create a job for them. Maybe I am on to something here. Maybe all these people who support the left are a bunch of government workers and really believe that the government creates jobs, which they don't. NEWS FLASH: Private sector creates jobs, the government (especially the dems) hinder the growth of business
Online addict
11:58 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Sorry B Allen, you are wrong. There are many government workers on you payroll. And trust me your taxes don't come close to covering their expenses. I am talking about every man and woman who serves in the armed forces. I am talking about everyone who works in the Pentagon to keep you safe, so you can have a business. And talking about business, didn't you claim you retired 3 years ago.
Now back to the government folks supporting your lifestyle... they are responsible for maintaining every single highway you drive on, every civil servant who protects your neighborhood, all the medical services you receive, all the work that places like NIH generate to make this a healthier nation. These things don't happen in a vaccuum.
And let's not forget the government folks who ensure your drinking water, agricultural products, the airways, the public utilities. These are where your tax dollars go, and if you don't like it, the civil servants who work border control will swing open the gate into Canada, Mexico, or where ever you choose.
SO, before you start mocking the aremed services, I recommend you drive on over to Walter Reed in Bethesda and volunteer to help all those brave young men and women who don't have it as good as you. You are retired, get off your fanny and do something productive!
B Allen
2:12 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Hey Addiict...that kool aide really got you going. NEWS FLASH for you, ther are NO government workers supporting my lifestyle. It is TAX DOLLARS that pay for government workers...then it is the way you people mismanage it and drive costs up. Hell, look at the POST OFFICE, they had SOLE SOURCE on every peice of mail going in, out and throughout the USA and they STILL LOST money every year. Shall we talk about the transit systems, etc??? Don't think you can take more of the truth in one day, while you cower in the corner. Maybe what needs to be done is ALL more and more of those things you have brought up need to be privatized...ALSO< BTW you little pissant, I have served and I have been at Walter Reed at the OLD hopspital when I was in the military during the Vietnam era, before the new one was open....so don't tell me worthless little magot. I did more by the time I was 25 than you will do in your worthless life.
B Allen
2:17 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
BTW you drug addict, want to say all that to my face and see who will be left standing??? You are getting more and more irritated because I have made You and others like you look more and more foolish. Maybe you need to get with all the other "girls" in your little circle get together. So what if I am retired, I was able to do it at 55. When will you retire, oh wait, you still get gvmt assistance...what a fricking leech.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
11:15 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Dave..and so you smile at the "stupidity of my fellow Americans." It appears that you have now crossed the line over to the "name calling group." You have decided that our President could not possibly have said anything so stupid, it is simply the stupidity of your fellow Americans' interpretation of his words. How thoughtful of you, honey child.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
7:20 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Ah Frank and Christopher....yikes!!....to respond to you both in the manner in which you both deserve would not pass muster with the editor. Not worth climbing into the gutter with you both....don't want anything to rub off....And Monsieur Frank...where did you get the spelling "chile" rather than "child"...just curious about the direction of your thought process, kiddo!
Lorna D. Rudnikas
7:35 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
And Christopher said: "Obama did not say that people did not 'build their businesses'. He was saying that they DID NOT BUILD THEIR BUSINESSES ALONE! WITHOUT THEIR WORKERS THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE THEIR BUSINESSES TURN A PROFIT!" First and foremost, that IS NOT what the President said, no matter how many roses you want to put on it. Why not try "he misspoke?" Everyone with half a brain already knows that building a business is team work..the better the team work, the more successful the possibilities. It is the opportunity to do so without unnecessary interference from the government hatchet folks that the country is crying for...no double talk!!! There are some folks that may feel comfortable with a Nanny State..but, I suspect if it hits the fan full force, the majority of folks will be quite horrified.
8:34 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
I am a republican and proud of it...but...the comments here go way beyond making valid points on the issue of the SEIU encouraging their members to stage a protest about a comment that Romney made and the union waned it misinterpreted for their own purpose. Civility should prevail. Arguments are stronger when they do not involve personal attacks. Unfortunately, the union used its members to try to garner support for Obama. If the bus drivers are SMART, they would get that and would not allow the union to manipulate them.
B Allen
11:07 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
I agree that "civility" should prevail, but the leftist meaning of civility is "if you don't agree with us, we are going to attack you". So much for the so called term "civility". As I have pointed out about unions in prior posts, then was attacked for putting the truth out there and hit them back with their own tactics, then they try a new and different approach (RULE#8 rule for radicals). Here is another "tactic by seiu union members, beating a black man because he "left their plantation" and was passing out DON'T TREAD ON ME flags http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFeUhSlHiUQ What is the old saying? A picture is worth a thousand words...I wonder how many words a video is worth? I would venture to say a hellava lot more.
B Allen
12:51 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
that is what I have been saying frankiegirl, you do try to dish out your lies but you cannot take the truth when it is thrown back at you.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
9:16 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
E. Curran...thank you, I concur. Valid points have gotten lost and I for one will no longer respond to personal attacks in any form.
Socialist Worker
11:18 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
I was a school bus driver during the "Battle of Boston" (Boston School Desegregation). Every day we came in picked up young black children and drove them to what was all white South Boston High. At the time in Louisville, Ky buses were firebombed. We drove past hundreds of racists Yelling Stop Forced Busing and waving bananas behind a local police force in a City whose Democratic Party politicians were opposed to the Federal Judge who ordered desegregation. There were constant bombs threats including threats to blow up the tunnels to East Boston while children were in the Buses. Then the racists wanting to turn the victim into the criminal said the buses were "unsafe".
As a driver I could only get them there and take them home but it was the children only a few years yonger than me that would defeat racism. I and my fellow drivers reguardless of color were committed to driving them despite the threats, rocks and bus sabotage.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
12:32 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Well Social Worker...just goes to show you where the ugly face of true "racism" might raise it little head. You were obviously very brave in a very difficult time. And, of course, the children were as well. Now please, please share with me what this has to do with Johnnie or Mary achieving honor roll status??? We know all the community services that work as a team to present successful school/community environments. We know that if the community did not work together, it would be more difficult to reach successful conclusions with schools, business, health care, law enforcement, fire departments, etc. Now can we just accept and praise the children who have succeeded making the honor roll without having to also receive praise? Usually, adults don't strive for the spot light in this arena.
Socialist Worker
3:41 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Romney decided to take a backhanded swipe at School Bus drivers. The drivers and their Union responded. The article actually quotes a supervisor who supports the drivers. The last time I checked the Taft Hartley act prohibits supervisors from joining unions. If Romney and his supporters can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen.
B Allen
4:02 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Socialist...what the hell are you talking about. Romney NEVER said anything demeaning about bus drivers. If you took it that way, then I feel sorry for you that you allow others to do your bidding for you. What that means is that you need to have others think for you. If you are still in a union, I can understand that you are a socialist, but if you are not, why do you still have socialist tendencies? Just think about ALL that money you paid in dues and if you were not legally extorted, opps, forced to pay dues, you could have invested it in an IRA or 401K and have money set aside for retirement. Well, it would be 40% less since Nobama got in office but that will come back when Romney gets elected and that will be a reality story, not this fantasy we are in now.
Socialist Worker
6:44 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
"When a young person makes the honor roll, I know it took a bus to get to school, but I don't give a bus driver credit for the honor roll, I give the kid credit for the honor roll." (Cheers) Why did he say something like, "When a young person makes the honor roll, I know it takes bonds to pay for building schools, but I don't credit the bondholders for making the honor roll, I credit the Kids for making the honor roll."
B Allen
2:27 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
BTW Socialist, couple quick questions, when you KNOW that the DEMOCRATS are racists and bigots and were the ones against integration of schools and to let blacks vote, why would you continue to join them? Are you a racist and bigot also and hate women? I mean, that is all the dem party does is point out race and gender. They keep blacks from getting educated, that is why the schools in the cities are failing, Black unemployment at 15% and young blacks 48%, they use women as talking points and put them in front of the public, but why is there like 700,000 plus less women working today than when NObama took over, oh and how many does he have in his cabinent, vs how many Bush had in his? The only reason why Hillary is there, is because he likes to keep his enemies close, just like he did with Biden. Cmon, you aren't that stupid or are you? I know this is off subject, but was wondering, aloud.
Socialist Worker
12:11 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
So as to B Allen will not be left wondering. I have cast only one vote for a Democrat in the Democratic Primary. That was for George McGovern. Every vote since than in every general election some on the ballot and some as write ins has always gone the Socialist Workers Party Candidate. On a basis of principled politics.
B Allen
4:50 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Socialist, you have NOT kept me wondering. Cripes, I had you "pegged" as a card carrying member of the communist party the first statement you made. I am 100 steps ahead of you. That is why I can point out over and over how egotistical you people are and make fools out of you, when you post lies and propaganda. It does not work with me. Just because that guy is in the white house, you feel empowered to try and take over the USA. I know what that guy means when he says he wants to build up America from the ground up. You people think communism is going to take over here, hahaha. We know that is what the unions are trying to do. There WILL NOT be an AMerican Fall, as one of your leaders is calling for...that scumbag Van Jones.
B Allen
11:28 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
OK, I have a question for you NOT so smart lefties. Who do we "pat on the back" for doing a good job and making the honor role if we drive our kids to school every day? Should I pat myself on the back for doing that???? I would NEVER take that away from my children. I would encourage them to keep up the good work and to always try to do their best. So when they get into the REAL WORLD they can "squish" their competition and be winners (not like leftie losers), to live the AMERICAN DREAM, to PROSPER, to NEVER have their hand out for government ASSistance, to HELP the HELPLESS (and NOT give to some libtard who did not even try) and to believe in economic freedom and become whatever they want to become. and be the best at it.
Corbin Dallas Multipass
11:57 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Ugh. Romney presented a strawman. When has anyone ever argued that Bus Drivers should deserve credit for the honor roll that a student achieves? No one, except for Mitt Romney in that quote.
Yes, you should pat yourself on your back for being a good parent and driving your kids to school. You're ensuring your kids get proper education and social skills at the expense of your time. Likewise, people who safely and reliably deliver children to and from schools shouldn't be derided with strawman arguments. They should get a fair salary and benefits for completing an important job. None of that takes away from your kids accomplishments.
The Right, historically, has disrespected low wage labor. Romney isn't making these comments out of context. He's affiliated himself with a party that is known for making comments in this vein. Take for instance when Newt Gingrich, while running for president, said students should work as Janitors to pay for schooling: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/11/newt-gingrich-thinks-school-children-should-work-as-janitors/248837/
You made me laugh!
12:54 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
BAllen you seem to be missing the entire point of opportunity being the precursor to success. The argument that it takes a village to raise a child, or in this case a bus driver goes at the environmental conditions that supported the individual achievement.
As an example if you have three students all of which are of equal ability. All three students live equal distance from school. One has bus access, one has a parent take responsibility for transport and the last one has no access to the school. Fast forward their futures and ask the question who did better in school. We started with three students and the question is only applicable to two. Why because, achievement is tied to opportunity.
As a successful business owner I understand the role I played in my success, the hours of work, the risks to my families future I have borne, however I have the humility to acknowledge the opportunities that I have been presented with over my life.
I will also add that I am an independent who believes that most ideologues on both sides tend to have very poor critical thinking skills. It is my opinion that you fall into that category. I am not sure you are capable of nuanced thinking and gravitate towards very simple world views. I also think that you are a troll on this thread and preventing honest conversation. I wish you a lot of luck in the real world.
B Allen
1:29 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Corbin, go read what was REALLY said...seems once again the words were twisted around and a fabrication was created, then you people go on attack of the fabrication...RULE # 12...But I would venture to say that ALL you left wing nutcases are now on rule # 7...You ARE old news.
B Allen
2:04 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
You REALLY do make me laugh...I started the discussions some time back, but was attacked for giving the truth and NOT going along with the lefties. I do get it. It was NOTHING more than saying to your kids, YOU did a good job in making the honor roll, that is ALL that was said. I too have been successful in business (starting 2 different companies) and have been able to semi-retire at 55 (not because I wanted to but because of democrat policies and put many of my customers out of business in MD). I TOO know what it means to work hard and have been doing so since I was 14 working almost full time at a gas station and playing football, baseball and running track and getting a catholic school education and having homework in 5 subjects every night. College on MY dime. MY parents never asked for people to thank then for my successes. They patted me on the back and encouraged me to do better each and every time.
So don't try to give me some lame scenario. If you were so "independant" in your thought process, you would have seen through this "left wing political tactic" for what it is and what they are trying. Maybe you are not as smart as you think you are. BTW, I am having a lot of fun, have had a lot of luck and have made a very good life for my family to enjoy, which is much much more than I had growing up, here in the REAL WORLD...maybe you might get a chance to join it some day, instead of being in a fantasy world.
Corbin Dallas Multipass
2:19 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Mitt Romney: ""When a young person makes the honor roll, I know it took a bus to get to school, but I don't give a bus driver credit for the honor roll,"
B Allen: "It was NOTHING more than saying to your kids, YOU did a good job in making the honor roll, that is ALL that was said."
Clearly that is not all that was said.
B Allen
2:38 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Corbin, were those voices going off in your head again and you thought you heard something different being said? Nothing bad was said about bus drivers, Romney acknowleged the fact that the bus driver got the kid to school. What about it? Did the voices tell you something different? I heard the statement too and I read what you posted here. Maybe that is what is different between us rational thinking people and you kool aide drinking zombies. There was no voices going off in my head saying anything else. So what did the voices say? I mean was it like the devil talking to you or something, what was it? I am a little concerned you are not taking your thorazine as prescribed by your doctor. Shall I call the guys with the white coats to take you away???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh and I am NOT laughing with you, only AT you.
Ron Zur
11:43 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Mr. Romney needs to be more sensitive and respectful of every person who makes an effort to contribute to the safety and well -being of others. This is especially true for anyone and everyone who works with our innocent children. Our children are not only beloved to us, they hold our nation 's future in their tiny little hands. Mr. Romney will have a much better chance of being elected in November if he thinks before he speaks.
B Allen
11:49 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Ron, yeah, just like biden needs to tell blacks that they are "going to be put back in chains"? You don't see black conservatives making a big deal and protesting biden do you? maybe because the conservatives are more civil than any lib would ever dream of being. Again, there was no attack on bus drivers, just union people turning words around into a false statement and then attacking the false statement. R4R rule #12
Socialist Worker
11:49 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
I know those children taught me something about courage. I can't say that I taught them anything. B Allen however is teaching us about ignorance when he she brings in the "libtard" remark.
B Allen
1:11 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Good you learned something from the democrats and the democratic KKK wing attacking the black children and trying to stop integration. Maybe you ought to start understanding something., Like what Romney said, was not an attack on bus drivers, it was to praise your kids for doing well. The union people twisted it around into an issue AGAIN, RULE # 12 You know them by heart I am sure, socialist.. When are you people going to get it...I know NEVER!!! Oh and I do use the term Libtard (as frankiegirl called it) not as name calling but what you people are. Like I an going to agree with anyone who has SOCIALIST in their name.
Socialist Worker
4:22 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
What Romney said was a backhanded slap at School Bus drivers union or nonunion. I'm not interested in B Allen's agreement. We as workers need to bring Union Power to bear on Social Problems including education. We can't do that within the Democrat and Republican Party setup. We need our own Party to do what was done over fifty years ago in Cuba. Then we can solve social problems using state power which is the most effective way to move forward from War, Poverty, Sickness and Unemployment.
Sean R. Sedam
12:20 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Montgomery County GOP Chairman Mark Uncapher responds to the bus drivers' protest: http://rockville.patch.com/articles/montgomery-county-gop-chairman-responds-to-romney-protest
B Allen
1:02 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Sean...you are a smart guy. You know how to write an article and I know they really don't teach you how to fabricate the truth in college, you kinda learn that on the way from the left wingers in politics and the media. You were taught in school to print the truth, how about printing the truth...this whole thing of taking what was said and twisting it around into something completly different than what was said and then going on attack is soooooo childish, it reminds me of when my kids were like 4 yrs old. The rules for radicals do not apply.
B Allen
1:17 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
BTW Sean, Uncapher DOES have a point and I bet the bus drivers will tell you they have NOTHING to do with all those kids who ride the bus and are complete losers and failures.. But what the bus drivers did WAS silly. They just marched to the union orders. BTW, were all those people on the payroll while protesting? If so, I as a taxpayer demand my money back. Oh wait, the unions get their way in this republic because the dems are with them. BE FOR REAL!!!!
Lorna D. Rudnikas
12:51 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
There is nothing anti-union about Mt. Uncapher's response...nor Governor Romney's response either. It is very sad that "divisive political tactics" are permitted to roll over/use the honor of our school bus drivers and the important role they play on a very daily basis keeping our kids safe from harm. All for political barter.. Shame!!!
B Allen
1:25 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
YOU are ABSOLUTELY 100% RIGHT and to the point that this is nothing more than a political tactic that the left wing jackasses (calling them their mascot) have done. Unions always try to be thugs.
B Allen
2:12 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Just thought I would change the subject up a bit. Fact Check: Here is a typical tall tale from the left...the funny thing is you people fall for their nonsense, lies and deceipt...http://conservativebyte.com/2012/09/fact-check-first-ladys-false-fairy-tale-of-struggle/
Online addict
3:46 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
I am thinking the bus driver must have left one of the responders here on the curb a few too many mornings!
Socialist Worker
5:24 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Union officials work for the members not the other way around. If workers don't want the Union officials the can elect new ones or have the unelected ones fired. If they decide they don't want a union or want a differnt one the can petition the NLRB for a representation election. Most workers get no say what so ever as to how a company runs its busness. You can be fired no reason or any reason as long as you weren't fired for a protected reason. Most union contracts state that an employee can only fired for cause and that any changes in how the work is done must be negociated with the union. With out a union contract an employer can do as he pleases. These rights were won through massive struggles including general strikes in three big cities during the great depression not by electing President Roosevelt.
B Allen
12:10 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
SOCIALIST (people I do not like) Not to get off the subject but you like to defend scumbag unions. Unions have outstayed their welcome. Five factories my father worked at closed down because of unions. I was part of the UAW at an early age. My "family" runs unions that make the SEIu look like a bunch of fairies, well they are). I tell them the same thing as I am saying here. Employees can prosper without unions, there are enough laws to protect (as you would call them because you are a socialist) "workers or comrads". Companies I have worked at, businesses I have started had no need for a union. The "right to work states" are flourishing. Wisconsin, since the unions have ben beaten back is flourishing under the GOP Gov Scott Walker. Union membership is DOWNover 60% and the union people are upset because thay had their butts handed to them in the recall that went "bust" on them. Union members in MD have NO say whatsoever, the dems control that. Sure they can elect their leaders but it is the "from the frying pan into the fire" scenario. Get rid of one scumbag and elect another. Why should a business owner have to deal with a union rep when that owner wants to fire someone...if they don't "cut the mustard" then they need to be cut loose. Cripes unions even protect CHILD MOLESTORS that pose as teachers. With all that being said, If I was driving down the road that day, I would have gotten closer to the curb when driving by.
Christopher Kidwell
2:30 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
B Allen, scumbag = people who have a position that I disagree with or do something that I personally dislike to you.
These Unions are only looking out for their members. That's all, nothing more.
Sure, sometimes that means pushing hard and refusing to 'negotiate' (many times because they have ALREADY compromised quite a lot) sometimes, but that doesn't make them scumbags.
B Allen
2:32 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
you KId Yourself Well there Chrissy boi...these union people are NOT looking after their "comrads" they are trying to make a non issue and a non statment into a politcal issues...you people are so easily fooled and misled. It is funny to watch you people react to the truth.
Christopher Kidwell
5:02 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
B Allen, the word is COMRADES. Not comrads. That simple spelling mistake alone, along with the run-on sentences has told me a few things about you, correct if wrong:
1. You didn't graduate high school.
2. You have a 8th grade reading and writing level or less.
Sometimes, these people are not looking out for the people in the Unions. However, in the Unions that have a little thing called "Recall", those people go EXCEPTIONALLY quickly once they are exposed for what they truly are.
Also, the 'right to work' states are not flourishing. They appear to be flourishing until you get down to the nitties and the gritties and realize that they have MORE people on public assistance programs than they EVER had in the past.
Directly related to companies that will not pay people a legitimate living wage.
Lastly, EVERYTHING is a political issue. Whether it is an important one or not, that is VIEWPOINT. Something that is different from person to person.
B Allen
9:52 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Chrissie kidding yourself Well, once again, twisting the facts. Also, BIG DEAL, there are a couple of typos. It is possible to have a undergrad degree with multiple minors and an advanced degree, have started businesses and make a couple of errors in typing. But with reading your feeble minded posts, Ieveryone can clearly see you cannot comprehend something like that. Get over it. I know what I have accomplished in my life and probably did more by the time I was 25yo than you have done your whole life. AGAIN, I am posting facts and figures. What have you posted other than personal and verbal attacks, personal threats, heresay, falsehoods, left wing talking points, more attacks and foolish statements and complaints that you never got paid what you think you are worth? NEWS FLASH:Employers pay employees what they are worth. Don't give me this, "I should be paid a fair living wage bit. You are paid what the job calls for, nothing more, nothing less. You don't like it, get a second min wage job flipping hamburgers or pizza, instead of complaining . Maybe you need to be investigated about your ties to the communist party. http://pjmedia.com/blog/gop-states-saved-economy-in-2011/
B Allen
10:07 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
only a true member of the RCP would see the typo of "comrads vs comrades" and take offense to that. yeah, another thing, 45% increase of welfare recipients and maintaining over 8% unemployment (not counting those who do not file for unemployment) under the NObama administration., when he said he would make the waters lower and, reduce the deficit and reduce unemployment by creating jobs, yada, yada, yada. NOW that is something to be proud of. I am sure the communists and socialists here are getting that "tingle feeling" up and down their legs. You took it, hook, line and sinker.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
11:51 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
And the Socialist Worker said: "We can't do that within the Democrat and Republican Party setup. We need our own Party to do what was done over fifty years ago in Cuba. Then we can solve social problems using state power which is the most effective way to move forward from War, Poverty, Sickness and Unemployment." Thank you, thank you, thank you dear 'socialist worker' ...I have been waiting for so long for you to come out from under the rocks. 50 years ago, Fidel Castro began his work on organizing and making his very own "plantation." Redistribution of wealth; (wealth for communists meaning if you have anything, anything at all, it now belongs to the State) Fundamental transformation of the island..meaning no rights whatsoever unless deemed necessary and correct...unless of course you want to spend an inordinate amount of time in an underground jail cell or as solved early on by "firing squads!". Get rid of the intellectual population, teach the young to spy on their parents, teachers, et. al. and of course make very sure all weapons are taken from the people. One good thing he did do was transform the health care system (does this begin to sound familiar) because he needed his plantation workers to be in good health, to work for little money, to spend only in government stores.every waking hour of every waking day a be very, very sure that their lives have belonged to Fidel for 50 years. to be continued.....
Christopher Kidwell
2:32 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
What you miss is that Cuba, if we hadn't put in those trade sanctions on them, wouldn't be in the bad straights that they currently are in. Secondly, Fidel might have been a communist and a dictator.... but he never or rarely killed any of his people, save those that there was a metric ****ton of evidence were traitors to their country.
I don't mean by just disagreeing with their government, but actually trying to get together physical force groups to take down their government.
Socialist Worker
5:48 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
If Fidel and the Cuban revolution were able to transform a health care system on a island why can't the "Great and Richest" stronghold of "Democracy" do the same thing? When Cuban Troops defeated the South African racists and the peace talks were held. Who was the "Great Diverse Nations" representive sitting with? Name five countries who vote to support the continued US blockade of Cuba at the United Nations. (Trick question its less than four.)
B Allen
2:37 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
well numbnuts Kid yourself Well, Russia took care of them for years as did MANY other countries. Did you see Canada bring sanctions on Cuba? Hell, you can go over the boarder and get some nice Cubam cigars. So why was and still is, Cuba a third world country? I wasn't for the USA sanctions, it is because of Socialism, it does not work. That is why socialist European countries are going down the tubes. Why do you think prime ministers and rulers of other countries come to the USA for medical treatment? Because the socialized medicine they put in place for their comrads and workers is failing. Just as you people are here in trying to "debate" the issues. You don't debate, you just attack when people show how ignorant you people are.
B Allen
2:40 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Frankiegirl, no that is what you just took from the communist manifesto, what you people follow. Hell, you don't even know what the Tea party means, other than what you hear passed around your little circle.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
12:24 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
continued... And now you feel so assured and your vision so blurred, that you actually step forward to use Cuba as the example. This is fabulous!!! I know, I know one is not suppose to "communist bash" it is so uncouth. Well, guess I would rather "bash" them than wait for them to "bash" us. And so, there we are with a huge number of our universities pushing the so-called "socialist" agenda. Yikes!! By the time our young people get through their idealistic stage and realize the truth..it could well be too late. On this note, I suggest when hearing fundamental change, redistribution of wealth, and FORWARD....whoa Nellie...Red Flag, Red Flag, better take time to read between the lines. Better take a double check Mr. President to be sure you know who is really maneuvering in your camp and why. Looks like the only problem our socialist worker friend has is that things are not moving FORWARD fast enough. Just the perspective of a retired worker bee, of course!!
3:41 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Oh my God. Christopher, did you really go there? Fidel never or rarely "killed any of his people". Wow! What a standard to judge a dictator by. Just Google "Cuban Dissent" and you will immediately see that there have been several deaths in the past year from Uncle C's direct repression of the counterrevolutionaries. And it's OUR fault for putting sanctions on the little piss@nt? What we should do is hang him from the highest tree. That would do more good for Cuba than anything I can think of. That Obama might want to emulate Fidel is what worries a lot of us, and that there are people such as yourself who would enable that is just appalling.
Socialist Worker
6:25 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
What most of us never here from the media is that Cuban Counterevoltionary bandits are continually launching attacks with arms on the Cuban coast and mainland. This in itself is a violation of the US neutrality act. That the self proclaimed planners of the terrorist downing of a Cuban Civilian Passanger jet via bomb lived and live freely in Miami. That four Cuban Hero's sit in US federal jails because they infiltrated Miami's Terrorist gangsters organizations. That the fifth is required to stay here on parole on the order of a federal judge. That US companies who would ordinarily sell childerns medical supplies to anyone in any nation will not sell them to Cuba because of the Trading of the Enemy act and The Cuban Democracy Act. That should you chose to vist Cuba without first obtaining a license from Office of Foriegn Asset Control. You may recieve a vist from the American Federal Political Police (FBI).
Christopher Kidwell
2:08 am on Friday, September 7, 2012
Agreed, Socialist Worker. I got educated on the subject of Cuba a long time ago and found the numerous websites by AMERICAN people who were listing (with credible evidence) the numerous instances of the United States funding various groups to try and take over Cuba in order to turn it into our vassal state since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
They have papers tracing the money connections, tracing the meetings between people, etc. all the way back to the United States government.
Trying to fund organizations to overthrow a government with physical force is an ACT OF WAR according to the United Nations charter, it's spelled out in block letters and plain speech.
B Allen
10:01 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
yeah socialist and achmadenijihad is the leader in Iran...he has come a long way from killing American service members on that hijacked plane in Tehran back in the 70's. He was the guy looking out the window in the cockpit.
B Allen
10:03 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Hell, we should be sending MORE LAWYERS, GUNS AND MONEY so the people can fight opression and live free and proper. Oh, to use the LAWYERS as cannon fodder. That way the USA does not have to go in and clean up so the people can live free.
B Allen
6:06 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Frankiegirl, Well, NOW you have really verified the fact that ALL those drug you took in the 60's and 70's have had a lasting effect on what little amount of brain cells you have. The reference to Iran and AKKKK-maaaa den eh jihad, has a bearing on what you people are trying to say. FLASHBACK: TO 1979 and lasted over 400 days, from the end of 1979 until the beginning of 1981. See FRANKIE girl, you try to twist things around and you come up short again. R4R # what 5 or is it 7, to try and keep coming up with a counter in a story line. Too bad you are no fun anymore Frankiegirl to make fun of, it is just WAY too easy since you open yourself for ridicule each and every time you post something or open your mouth. You must like be some kinda D/S lover and be riduiculed and humiliated all the time.
1:35 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Hey b. Allen-
I dont like you. Why is "girl" your go to insult? Insecure and petty and pretty dang unlikeable. But I already know the "girls" in your life have clued you into this. You need a smack from your mom for being so disrespectful.
B Allen
12:18 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Troublemaker, It is because they ALL act like a bunch of spoiled 4yo little girls. I could care less if you like me or not. I have posted truth, facts, figures and every time I have, they have used their means of "civility" and went on attack. BTW, the WOMEN in my life don't act like a bunch of spoiled little rotten little girls. Also, my Mother, who is a WOMAN, would encourage me to speak my mind. She may not agree with me at times, but she likes the fact that I can think for myself, not act like a zombie, speak my mind and be able to back it up, should it come to that. So, you have picked the wrong person to attack...consider yourself included in that little group
1:44 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
I already know, i'm a dumb girl who'll vote for obama because i lack your immense intellectual capacity to comprehend this election and all it encompasses. You should probably pull your head from your rear and breathe some. The lack of oxygen is totally affecting you.
B Allen
12:21 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
troublemaker, you are what you are "I already know, i'm a dumb girl who'll vote for obama because i lack your immense intellectual capacity to comprehend this election and all it encompasses". Maybe you need to enlighten yourself as to how you are being taken advantage of, or maybe you DO liek being taken advantage of. See, NOW all those little girls can have a REAL little girl join them in their little cirle sessions. HAHAHAHA Why don't YOU take your head out of the sand and get the facts.
B Allen
12:29 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Just a thought troublemaker. Why would you tell the world that you are dumb and that you lack the intellectual capacity to comprehend? You my little friend are exactly what you libbies are all about. Seems the elevator is stuck on the bottom floor with you. Were you this "person" that made this phone call into this talk show? Sounds like just about any one of you people may have. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpCHvHWUAvw
Online addict
5:01 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
B. Allen, you will cause many to question your "immense intellectual capacity" when you fail to comprehend simple sarcasm. And what is up with you mocking the armed forces of the USA? These great America government employees who give their all for us are what allows us to be free and productive business people. Do you really mean to say that you do not want to pay your taxes to these individuals? Really?
9:06 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
This is an orchestrated demonstration by the criminal conspiracy called the SEIU. The government employee unions run Montgomery County. It should be illegal for government employees to unionize (Franklin Roosevelt himself thought so), much less to donate campaign money to officeholders who decide their compensation and work environment. I would bet that all the "demonstrators" were paid by the union for participating, and couldn't identify or discuss the underlying issue cogently.
Socialist Worker
6:54 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Now that in a previous post you revelled your self as a proponet of lynching no one need pay attention to any more of your support for Human rights. With the Cuban victory in January 1959 came trials for persons guilty of war crimes. The Batista regime hung people on light poles and they tore out the eyes in acts of toture seeking information, and executed suspects on the spot . The Cuban people paid with 20,000 lives to get rid of him and many in America can't understand why these monsters were executed or jailed. They recieved trials in front of News Cameras historically available now on You tube. They all recieved more justice than they gave during the revolution. After WWII top NAZI officers were tried and either executed or imprisoned. Maybe in your neighborhood you'd like to keep one of these gentileman.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
12:40 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
I willingly withdraw from this thread with the sad knowledge that "divide and conquer" forum being pushed by the far left is having a measure of success...even down to school bus driving. Stand back folks and take a clearer review how it started and the back and forth comments. How the h*ll did we, as American citizens allow this to happen to us..not only here, but on a larger scale throughout the country? Best we pull it back in and put it under rocks from whence it came along with the darlings that started it, count on it for disruption and smile when they are successful.
Socialist Worker
4:26 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
B Allen says five factories closed down because of unions. I don't know of the specific cases but I am sure that in America the owners closed the factories and not the union. I am also sure that the owners incluing B allen want to shift the blame to the workers and their unions. I lost a union factory job because the owners closed the shop. We built head end equipment for Cable TV companies at the begining of the cable tv boom period. Even though the plant was turning a profit and they knew a boom period was ahead the company moved production to Mexico. Why because they believed they could make more money off the backs of Mexican workers. That is why our politics start with the world. Our class speaks many languages, preforms many different jobs and lives all over the world. We have nothing in common with the boss class here or else where. An injury to one is an injury to all! We are workers not criminals. Si se puede. Workers of the world Unite. We have nothing to lose except our chains and a world to win!!!
B Allen
2:52 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
I know of that factory since my family was involved in the cable industry starting in the late 60s, early 70's. The reason the factory was closed down was the unions demanded more than the fair wage they were receiving for doing that job. Hell I was making $14.79/hour in 1973 at a UAW factory, plus bonus if i had more output. I actually had the shop steward come to me and tell me I was working too hard and that he wuld get my father to talk to me about it. I told him, i would kick his butt just like I kicked the butss of his one brother and a friend of his at the same time. 3 yrs later that factory was closed and moved to a RIGHT TO WORK STATE, SOUTH CAROLINA AND THE COMPANY IS STILL in business. My father lost his job, pension and the union did nothing for the union members except get them a couple dollars a month for 5 yrs.
4:40 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Why even have schools? Let's just have class on the bus with the best teachers in Monty county, the bus drivers.
Christopher Kidwell
5:17 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Have class on the bus? Well, it IS possible to have 'class from home'. I personally did that with my children until high school, when they begged to go to a public school in order to 'learn what it was like'.
Luckily, the public school where their mother lives out in California was one of the better ones in the state.
B Allen
10:05 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
would certainly save taxpayers a lot of money instead of these nitwits spending MILLIONS on schools and all the unnecessay "perks" they put into the building.
B Allen
10:07 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
HAAAHAAAHAAA Chrissie kid yourself well. Your kids just wanted to get away from their feeble minded socialsit parents. They wanted to see what it was like in the REAL WORLD, not a make believe fantasy world.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
6:59 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
You are right Frank, looks like you've got my number.....with Socialist Worker garbaage statements...it is getting harder and harder not to respond. mmmmmm I am making every effffffffffort, honest!!!
Lorna D. Rudnikas
7:11 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Ok Frank...I just lost it. El Socialist Worker said: "What most of us never here from the media is that Cuban Counterevoltionary bandits are continually launching attacks with arms on the Cuban coast and mainland." Pray tell oh great brainwashed socialist worker..what do the atrocities of the Batista gang have to do with your reasoning for a third party--communist--need in the U.S.A? Of course the people of Cuba had every right and reason to get rid of Batista, and they fought and died to do so..But did Castro have to bring communism to the island to utilize as a neat little way to evolve the island into his personal plantation??? Don't put a rose on it El SW...it won't fly. Don't blame the USA for the culture of plantationism that he put in place. I believe, if my history is correct, he grew up on a plantation, the son of wealthy folks. Became an attorney and at first a revolutionary hero. Better be in "lock step" in a communist regime my little angel...spout all of you gabaaage here..you have rights. Try any anti-Castro garbaage there my darling, and lets see how many days, hours, minutes before your voice is silenced...as in silencio!!! Don't even think about it, honey child!!! Well Frank...you won this one, but it was worth it, honey child.
Socialist Worker
8:41 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
We are going to need a revoltion here because capitalism has reached another historical dead end with the world economic crisis. No one will come on a white horse to save us. We have rights here because people like my self have fought for them. Are you enjoying your retirement? Do you have a private penision or IRA? Will it be safe from a stock market crash or swindle? Will Social Security be safe from politicians wanting to pay for another war? There is almost no one alive on the planet who was even a child back then. My dad told me stories about how they fixed their shoes with cardboard and the Jewish landlord who let them stay even when their was no money for the rent. Despite all the pump priming economics and new economic regulations of FDR the only thing that brought some of humanity out of the depression was WWII. The other 60,000,000 didn't make it.
Christopher Kidwell
2:11 am on Friday, September 7, 2012
Agreed with UNRESTRAINED capitalism. I personally feel that capitalism is good for things that are not 'necessities of life': high end computers, high end cars, high end food, high end etc.
For things that are 'basics of life, you need them to survive', capitalism bites big time because it is so goddamned easy to manipulate capitalism by making backroom agreements where companies say that they will not charge under X price for their offerings.
Yes, that is illegal but it is damned hard without regulators being in the companies faces 24/7/365 or 366 to keep that from happening.
Socialist Worker
8:42 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
As to Cuba if you would like to read what Yoani Sanchez says its on the internet. She writes from within Cuba and she is even known by Fidel. Most of that blog consists of rumors and what ever will pass for a dig against the revoltion.
And if thats not enough for you. Than there is the ladies in white. In the rest of Latin America the ladies in white are usually mothers who want to know what has happened to their disappeared children or where the last mass grave is. In Cuba no one disapears nor are there mass graves so they then try claim the government is holding political prisoners. The political prisoners turn out to be criminal prisoners who either defiantely refuse to leave because they won't accept a job offer or they have been recieving money from the United States government. Remember that a blockade is considered an act of war by the United Nations. So we remain in a cold war with Cuba. Since I am not Cuban and unlike the US Congress I don't presume that it is my right to tell them how to run there country. Yes I admire what they have been able to do with their revolution and I believe I still have some things to learn as Che said, "Imperialism has been our greatest teacher."
Lorna D. Rudnikas
12:35 am on Friday, September 7, 2012
You know Socialist Worker, I bet you are just funnin with us. There is no way in h*ll that I can accept any person in the world of instant communication we live in could possibly be as uneducated in the basics of communism and what it stands for and is against and its known, documented affects upon its people. And yet, here you are espousing it attributed?? Wow!! Even a fan of the late, great murdering Che!! What do you know of the blockade my little angel? What started it, my little darling? Come on now, you can give a few details, can't you. Try, while you are at it, to put a rose on it!!! And while you are at it, any ideas of what it takes to have one person (Fidel) in full, irrefutable charge of a country for 50 YEARS??? I know, I know, you think it is because the people on the plantation love, love, love him.
Christopher Kidwell
2:16 am on Friday, September 7, 2012
Lorna, he is not 'funning with you' and yes, it is possible to be uneducated in communism like you are because you are being willfully blind.
The fact is that the only country in the past 100 (maybe past 2K) years that has been communist is Cuba under Fidel. The rest of the 'communist' countries are actually elitist countries or dictatorships cloaking themselves with the communist label so that their (usually uneducated) masses won't rise up and destroy those elitist governments and dictatorships.
China: Elitist.
North Korea: Dictatorship.
Vietnam: Dictatorship, but slowly throwing that off to become more elitist.
Need I keep on going? Bottom line is that you have no idea what communism truly is. Is communism/socialism good in a vacuum by itself? No. Is it good when balanced with properly regulated capitalism? You betcha, that is why Europe is doing so well in regards to their people's quality of life by their people's own words.
Socialist Worker
11:50 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Those who were shot while Che was in command of the prison were they were held recieved a trial. The trials were open to newspapers. When he was captured in Bolivia at first they said he had been killed in battle. Then it leaked out that he had been captured alive with a gunshot wound. His trial consisted of a drunken sargent executing him acting on direct orders of the Bolivian military dictatorship. Years later the same sargent would have his eyesight saved by a Cuban Doctor.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
2:33 am on Friday, September 7, 2012
OMG...little birds of a feather, flocking together. At least we now don't need to read between the lines..You little darlings are coming forth showing your true colors. Thank you ever so much. I love to cut to the chase. As for Europe doing well...you may be looking through your little "red" glasses which give a blurred visual honey child. And, of course, as all good communists, you feel the rest of us are stupido!! But, all in all, I appreciate you not hiding behind pseudo-democratic names.
Christopher Kidwell
11:50 am on Friday, September 7, 2012
Showing our true colors by saying that capitalism in a vacuum does not work because human nature in the rich tends to lean towards them wanting to make more money by any means, even those that harm other people? Yep, really showing our 'true colors' here.... that we are SANE and SMART!
Until basic human nature changes, things like Unions are going to be necessary.
Bottom line, Lorna: Yes, you conservatives who believe in "FREE MARKET IS THE BEST!" aren't very bright. You are dumber than the 60IQ mentally challenged person who I met recently at the local psychologist when I was volunteering.
Even she could see that the way that our 'free market' system is working today is destroying the poor and middle class, making that first group into wage slaves and that latter group into the poor.
B Allen
3:00 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Kidding yourself again there Chrissie...bring your union communism to my front porch and see if you make it to the street. Video is worth a million words... I have had enough of you little people on the left spewing your trash. Just suck it up and be good little boys and girls and accept the truth. http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/20/former-union-boss-at-occupy-event-our-goal-is-to-overthrow-the-capitalist-system-and-build-communism-video/
Christopher Kidwell
4:39 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
That sounds like a threat on my life, B Allen.... would you care to retract that before I report you to the FBI?
Waiting here, because I am very willing to do that. I do not put up with MAGGOTS like you who threaten physical harm to someone else when they can disprove their viewpoints by any other means.
Christopher Kidwell
4:51 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Make that "cannot disprove their viewpoints by any other means."
B Allen
9:22 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Chrissie kid yourself well, You don't scare me with your threats. This is the EXACT method the left try their thuggish tactics. I posted this before but someone took it off because THIS proves how far you people will go to in trying to be thugs. Too bad you cannot accept the truth. You continue to threaten and attack me and others when I post the truth and people like you cannot handle it anbd think I am going to sit there and take your threats. You don't like when we use your tactics right back at you, the DOUBLE STANDARD. I would NEVER allow something LIKE THIS to happen at my home. I would protect my family from this criminal attack. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEsdxakaBIo&feature=related
B Allen
9:31 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Chrissie, I continually PROVE by posting the thruth. Nothing fabricated or twisted like you people do, then attack the false statements you make up. The TRUTH hurts people like you. People like you don't scare me.
2:11 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Call me naive because I had NO idea this was the cultist movement's ideology or philosphy when they formed Occupy Wall Street, and all the other OWS groups. Someone press the Panic! button already. Thanks for sharing this vid.
B Allen
4:32 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Frankiegirl, what you have to say has no bearing on anything. You are just another usless piece of you know what, used by the left wingers to do their bidding.
B Allen
9:49 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Little Girl Frankie, I am not hiding behind anything. I call it like it is and I tell it like it is. With me you get the truth, the facts they way they REALLY are. Call it my Philly upbringing but WE learned at an early age to be MEN and to be truthful in what we say and do, to stand behind it and be able to back it up when necessary. A GREAT MAN, much greater that all of you people (all the way to the amature in the white house) put together once said "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery" -Winston Churchill
Lorna D. Rudnikas
4:29 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
I have worked all my life...even can brag that I had my own business scrubbing front steps on Saturday mornings at the age of 9..me and my friend were competitive..nickles, but kept me in candy and gum. Worked part time14 (soda fountain) 16 (Mont.Wards) post HS. worked in medical arena and when money was tight, part time real estate agent. It is interesting how you little darlings classify "conservatives" as the "rich" folks. No, honey child, we are all different folks, we work, pay taxes, scrimp and save and get upset when the government gives our money away to folks other than those who are in need, but to those who don't deserve it and now those who aren't even citizens and dare to talk about redistribution of wealth to try to divide our great people and our great country. Whew!!! No my little pet, take your far left liberalism and stuff it (up your nose of course :) Working, saving, doing without when necessary, sharing when able, volunteering when needed right along side of folks very much more well off, but volunteering and doing their part is the country I know and love. When you say capitalism, say it with a smile sweetie, for if we go in your direction, you won't be smiling much down the road...guaranteed!!! Not sure where you volunteer, but remember the importance of medical ethics my little angel when cleverly bringing into the conversation a "mentally challenged patient." That is a big, big, NO, NO!!
Christopher Kidwell
4:43 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Lorna, I have worked all my life as well, from 14 years old volunteering at hospitals and not getting paid for it every summer after school.
I've been out there and seen how most businesses love to take advantage of workers today. Bottom line is that without a Union, you are Soylent Green to most business owners, people of no worth who they can use and abuse to their hearts content.
Now, in an economy where you can find a job anywhere and leave an employer that does that at any time and have a reasonable chance of finding a job within 2 weeks, that is okay... the business owners in question who do that will 'have the word get out' and no one will wish to work for them.
In our real world of today where people have to take basically any goddamned job they can get in order to support their families and cannot be leaving and going from job to job on a regular basis? We need some worker protection laws and Unions are a big part of that.
Without the Unions, we wouldn't have paid sick days, paid vacation time, etc. etc. etc.
Which, since none of those things are guaranteed by a Constitutional Amendment.... would be repealed, the laws that they are enshrined in. In fact, on a regular basis, the conservatives try to sneak through laws that would do JUST that.
B Allen
9:31 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Chrissie, WOW every time you post here, you show more and more how simple-minded you really are. GOD forbid, should you have to actually work when you get hired by an EMPLOYER (A legal entity that controls and directs a servant or worker under an express or implied contract of employment and pays (or is obligated to pay) him or her salary or wages in compensation.) EMPLOYEE (is a person who works in the service of another person under an express or implied contract of hire, under which the employer has the right to control the details of work performance) YOU don't put up the capital to run the business, YOU don't pay the bills, YOU don't invest in the company, so therefore, the EMPLOYER (or the managers who acts for the owner) can set the rules. If you were smart (which evidently you are NOT) enough to make it into management and invested in the company, you would look to the employees as to do what was necessary for the success of the company. No wonder you had a hard time keeping a job with your pissant attitude.
B Allen
9:39 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Lorna, that my friend is what seperates winners (us) from losers (them). I used to mow lawns for a couple bucks in the early 60's. When I was 14 in 1968, I got a job at a gas station near me, worked over 30 hours a week pumping gas, changing tires, scrubbing bathrooms, managing the money for my shift and the owner even had me working by myself at times because he could trust me. I did that and played football in the fall, ran track and played baseball in the spring and summer and STILL got a good Catholic school education. That is when they taught the true meaning on working hard, not like now that these lefties encourage kids to be mediocre at best and to complain and put the blame more on others and to NOT have any accountability or to learn responsibility. UNIONS profess to be worthless to the employer, don't take pride in your work, try to cheat "the man", more pay for less work and ALWAYS have your hand out for more.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
9:06 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Christopher, looks like we have both worked for a long time. But, I sense that your work experiences and memories leave a lot to be desired. I have been so very fortunate to work with very intelligent people oriented folks - in medical research, medical school, nursing school, campus administrators and all the excellent support staff that it was such a pleasure and honor to know and work with. And then, most special were the wonderful students..medical, nursing, social work and graduate school.many raising a family and huge sacrificing to reach their lofty goals. Money was not exemplary, conservatism was mandatory with out pocket books. Hospital employees had a union..we did not! And so my opinion of unions is that they probably share a place in the workforce, but also have a reputation of abuse of their members in any number of ways thereby losing membership. Don't know why your view is so one-sided. Perhaps attitude may have something to do with it in the long run, who knows! Unions may have their place, but when they bully to get more than their share, that is when companies seem to begin to hurt, workers begin to hurt, success is not long in the picture.just adversarial disaster. By the way, anybody seen "J. Hoffa" lately?
Christopher Kidwell
9:15 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Lorna, apparently you missed the point. IT ISN'T A PROBLEM WITH THE PEOPLE WHO I WORKED WITH.
It is the problem with the bosses who treat people like trash 99% of the time (my current boss excepted, because he like me was taken advantage of by business owners for many years) and who give us lackluster, if not slave, pay.
Big difference between the people who I worked with and the bosses today, who feel that you should be 'so grateful' that you even have a job with them that they expect ridiculous things from you, such as never taking a sick day, never taking a vacation day, etc.
Business owners today have been spoiled by the current bad economy into thinking that people are going to be happy with being treated like slaves. Sorry, but no.
B Allen
9:28 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Evidently Chrissie, you have been nothing but a worthless employee to your previous employers. A good business owner would reward a good employee for a job well done. When you sit around and do nothing but complain, you are a cancer within the system and need to be removed. Don't blame your employers for your lack of ability, look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself every day, "did I do the best to my ability".
Lorna D. Rudnikas
11:07 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Actually, Christopher, I did not misunderstand you. I said "... I sense that your work experiences and memories leave a lot to be desired." And went on to share the fact that I have been blessed with excellent memories with fellow employees and administrative bosses (left out the word bosses, sorry). My main thrust of the response, however, is my opinion of some organized unions and union bosses who have reputations of being bullies. There is no doubt that unions have played a big role in fighting for workers' rights...but they have also played a big role in abusing the workers, businesses and their spending of dues money. The history is there with some of the biggest unions. Perhaps they have methods of policing themselves, but history proves they also have methods of curtailing rules and getting away with it, big time. Another concern I would have is that you tend to generalize your disappointment with "bosses today" one gets the picture that the majority of your working career has been an unfortunate battle with "bosses who treat people like trash 99% of the time." I admit that is so foreign to me..can't imagine facing that every day of the week without seeking employment elsewhere. There are always some folks (employees and bosses alike) out there who are "duds" in the workplace...but I think with all the rules and regulations with the EEO, et. al. those darlings are controlled. Laws are in place...I thought..
Christopher Kidwell
5:17 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
My work experiences are fine, Lorna. So are my experiences with co-workers. But I have seen way too many bosses that expect you to 'do more' than you signed on for (one boss insisted that we clean the warehouse even though it was not in the job description that I signed up for) and bitched when we refused to do that, telling them "Hey, I didn't sign up to be a janitor. If you would have included 'light cleaning' in the job description, that would have been fine and I would be willing to do that. Might expect a few cents extra in pay per day but not really anything unreasonable."
I'm one of those people who says "Work to job description and do NOTHING that is not in your job description." Why? Because I've heard too many horror stories from relatives and friends where they went out of their way to do something and when something 'broke', they were canned.... even though the boss implicitly told them to do the thing in question.
B Allen
8:52 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Chrissy, you sound like the sniveling spoiled little brat that you are. No wonder you are a loser. A winner would go "over and beyond the call of duty" and the extra step to have respect for themselves and their co workers. I worked in a factory and in the UAW for 9 months before going in the military. When I made a mess in my work area, I had the respect for myself to clean it up and NOT leave a mess for the guy on the next shift. You made the mess intead of being a spoiled little brat and leave the mess for your coworkers to clean up, be a good little girl and clean it up next time, instead of stomping your feet and having a temper tantrum saying you did not make the mess. Don't blame others for your incompetence and inadequacies. I would fire you in an instant because I cannot stand lazy people like you. Typical libtard, feeling sorry for yourself and your loser lifestyle.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
1:43 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Socialist Worker...Che was a murdering butcher and I am very, very sure you know it. Looks like in your eyes and those in your corner, murdering butchers are AOK as long as their focus is the good old communist way. Again, I cannot thank you enough for opening this conversation with truth regarding what you stand for and a few of the folks who interestingly enough stand head and toe with you. Could not quite figure them out for a while...but you helped to change all of that. Y'all were never completely truthful about what you really represent until now. And, again I submit that all the thanks should be given to the Socialist Worker. Hip, hip, hooray!!! :-)
Christopher Kidwell
5:13 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Lorna, you miss that Vietnam and Korea were wars of aggression that we were not asked to get involved in by the people of those countries. Yes, we were not asked to intervene when North and South Korea were having their issues by anyone.
That happened after the war was over with.
B Allen
8:42 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Lorna, that is what communists are all about. I had them "pegged" from the very beginning. Here they "want their cake and eat it too". They will take governemtnassistance TAXPAYERS DOLLARS as handouts (actually many of them thing nobama is sending them the money) and complain about the AMERICAN was of life. They just need to move to cuba, even venezuala for that matter. They are nothing but leeches and parasites.
Gideon Zogin
9:00 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
In response to B Allen, I live in CC and have a lot of friends of different ethnic backgrounds. The only person I know on welfare is my white, racist neighbor who openly uses the N word and is voting for Romney. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNlSv4SUYWo
B Allen
10:11 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
@Gideon, yours is only heresay. What you said is BS and YOU know it. You have that guy with the tingling feeling going up his leg, Chris Idiot Matthews living there in CC in his mansion and telling the little people as he calls them that they need to do his bidding. You are an idiot.
Socialist Worker
2:44 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Lorna did you actually ever participate in a union? Or did you get your 'inside scope' from inside the office? I think JFK, LBJ, and Nixon were butchers. 50,000 American dead and 1,000,000 Vietnamese. I lived through that period. I saw the TV war. I heard all the lies and excuses. I remember Kent State. Agent Orange and Operation Ranch hand. The cold war. Giron and Kennedy's missle crisis. Would you like some of Batista's monsters from Cuba moving into your neighborhood? Who sold Batista his arms? Who trained the Bolivian Army in counter insurgery? Can you actually name a single person that you think was innocent that Che murdered?
Christopher Kidwell
5:12 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Agreed, Socialist Worker. Lorna and B Allen are those "AMERICA IS THE BEST!" people who love to ignore the numerous misdealing of our own government overseas in the past century and even in the century before that.
We have a habit of being aggressive towards our neighbors and thinking that everyone has to live the way Americans live, like our system is the only one that works and the 'best' system in the world.
Truth is that many other systems work and hybridization between socialism and capitalism with proper regulation on capitalism works the best. That is what Europe has and once this current mess with the economy of the world comes out, I think Europe is going to move further towards regulation of capitalism and the stock markets.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
6:25 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Oh great Socialist Worker.no I have never participated in a union.just never came up. Blessed to work with team players including the Boss. I can only say we did very, very well without a union. As I said before, unions definitely have a role to play, but keeping them on track and not permitting them to bust businesses is vitally important from where I stand. Now you speak of murderers, butchers...why don't we walk down memory lane with Monsieur Stalin for a while and then review life on Fidel's plantation..comprende? Slavery 50 years..comprende? Do you understand what that means? Yes, I think you do and I think you approve as long as it is slavery (Fidel) and murder (Stalin by communistas!! Having a big mouth in the U.S.A. doesn't count Comrade!! Everybody can have a big mouth here. But you will have to be very sneaky about it Comrade..we are not up to welcoming communists in our government..uh, uh, wait a minute, that is not completely true is it? Monsieur Obama welcomed Mr. Jones, the bona fide happy little communista. Of course he did. Obama keeping the faith that his grandma and grandpa apparently promoted. By the way, truth be told..If Kennedy did not put a stop to the missiles in Cuba, your little hind parts might not be here today darling. Of course, that might have been the bright side., just kidding, just kidding!!! I think!! :-)
B Allen
7:48 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Hey Chrissie, don't like what we do, then go to f***ing Cuba. You can return one of the "rafts" people use to flee from cuba on. You are such an idiot. It is NOT capitalism in Europe that has countries failing, it is the socialist mentality of losers (just like you) wanting to sit on their fat butts and have the government take care of them from cradle to grave. People like you make me sick to think that i volunteered and spent 3 yrs in the army to protect your sorry butt and others like you. You know, just like this socialsit 1/2 white president we have, the "executive order" of making it unnecessary to look for work if you are on welfare. He thinks he just bought more votes, thats all that is. NOW THAT IS SOCIALISM and come Nov, he will be OUT and the door will hit him in the butt on the way out of DC, so he can go back to Chicago and go back to being a community ASSociation member and live in his million dollar home that he bought at bargain price from the mobster Tony resco, who I think is still in jail. We know what you union scum are all about and what you are trying. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/former-d-c-union-boss-our-goal-is-to-overthrow-the-capitalist-system-and-build-communism/
B Allen
8:18 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
NEWS FLASH Chrissie, AMERICA does have the BEST system in the world. That is why scum like you stay here and not move to Cuba. That is why people who are lazy and want their government to take care of them in other countries are jealous of Americans who work hard to strive to be the best. That is why people come here from other countries come the the USA to LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM (even that nitwit in the white house usesthat term, even though he does not believe it). We AMERICANS are WINNERS, we PROSPER, we CREATE new things, we LEAD, we SET EXAMPLES on how to win, we FEED the world, we DONATE our wealth, we PROTECT the helpless, we ARE ALWAYS THE FIRST to be called when a country is in danger of being invaded, SHALL I GO ON? You are such a f***ing hypocrite and so misguided that you cannot even make a coherent statement. The communists have you sooooo brainwashed. Instead of trying to change the AMERICAN way of life, go to cuba and go "prosper" in their way of life...with the gvmt hand outs and the not so good health care. Which, if it was so good why do leaders from other socialist countries come here for medical treatment and NOT to cuba, other than chavez, who is unwated here. Maybe you need to be cut off from public assistance for your (anti Amercian) communist ideology.
B Allen
8:34 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
OK Socialist, you watched it on TV, did you get drafted or did you enlist in the military during that period like I did or did you just complain? Sure we never should have sided with the french and let them fight their own war and to stop communism in SE Asia. Those days are over, it is history. Get over it. Are you THAT embarresed about your measly little life? You don't need to be, you chose your way of life. That is what is GREAT about America, you can be whatever you want to be and do whatever you wnt to do, within reason. You want to live the AMERICAN DREAM? You are able to have a nice family, nice home, good income, money in the bank, able to get what you need and NOT have your hand out for the government to give you their "cheese", have a good education if you want, have a nice job and NOT have your hand out for sitting on your fat butt, want to be able to go on a nice family vacation, be able to afford a good education for your children if they want? WELL, here is the memo for you that you evidently missed a while back: AMERICA IS THE PLACE FOR WINNERS NOT LOSERS. Instead of complaining, save the government assistance you get and buy a one way ticked to cuba, instead of soaking up taxpayers dollars and complaining about the AMERICAN way of life.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
6:27 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Christopher darling...et tu brute'?? You really were under the rocks all this time. You get yourself down there and kiss the ground you walk on, honey child. You are very blessed darling and just don'[t have the good sense to know it. Oh well, what the h*ll!
B Allen
7:56 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
You know, as much as Frankiegirl and jag(off) and others in their little "circle" are so far left in their demented thought process, I would at least give them the benefit of the dought if they ever came up with any facts (as the left reports) and figures (as the left twists) to see if they are correct or if they are fabrications. But the spoiled little brat rants and raves by Socialist (well communist nitwit) and Chrissie comrade are even futher left then frankie and his girlfriends. I may be wrong, but i would venture to say that frankie and his gf's won't stoop as low as Socialist and Chrissie
Gideon Zogin
8:10 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Wow!!! These are my neighbors?!??!! Hatred, cursing, and what i saw first thing when i signed on to the page, "don't like what we do, then go to f***ing Cuba."
I'm exposing this neighborhood and moving.
B Allen
10:21 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Yeah, your libbie girlfriends (and NOW you) have been posting a lot of attacks, hateful comments, name calling, lies, deciet, propaganda, tall tales, anti American comments, racist and bigoted remarks, have been attacking women, etc. You know, your good ol left wing "civility" tactics...to GO ON ATTACK, towards anyone who publishes the truth and can make you people look like fools with your lies and deciet...With your feeble minded comments I can tell you are WELL VERSED in rules for radicals, bet you are good at rule #8 HAHAHA if is SOOOOOOOO funny watching you little girls get your panties all wadded up. I LOVE bringing you people out in the open so the world can see how useless idiots you losers really are and how you allow yourself to be used.
B Allen
10:52 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Hey Frankiegirl, it is MY tactic, unlike your rules for radicals. I throw in a typo here and there, to make sure you nitwits read everything in order to find something to attack...It works every time with you...you people are so predictable. I think goldfish are smarter than you people, you know the ones you win at the county fair that are ALL inbred.
B Allen
5:52 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
first thing you should have seen when you opened the page was the story headine. Dumb A**
Cate Moore
8:51 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
B Allen, how about you drive your own brats to school then, you fascist piece of shit.
Gideon Zogin
9:10 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
I truly doubt his children attend school. If so, it is all erased when they get home.
B Allen
10:47 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Also, my kids will grow up being free thinkers, not zombies like you or your offspring.
B Allen
5:46 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Cat got your tongue Cat-eeee Less??? Did you go back and look up what the new word you learned meant? Oh, I guess you saw your picture right next to it...hahaha what a libtard.
B Allen
5:51 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Oh and Gideeeee-on-up....you are such a braintrust in your own mind. Your egotism has gotten the best of you and you know that Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of STUPIDITY...guess you are stuck on stupid in OD...
Lorna D. Rudnikas
9:45 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Wow! "Fascist piece of s*it" How the heck did that get past the editor?? I am always amazed at how much the left leaning folks love the term "fascist." Drops out of their mouths like water running off a duck's back.
B Allen
4:45 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
No Frankiegirl, Cat--eeee Less has been MUTED because she may have realized how foolish she is, but I really doubt that. She does not know how to handle humiliation, she is probably cowering in the corner somewhere, mumbling incoherently to itself...probably something like "MY precious, MY precious"... Now for YOU frankiegirl, you are just a has been and never will be, a drugged up leftover who has lost the capability to think and reson coherently. Rule for Radicals RULE 7: "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news. YOU, you loser are OLD NEWS as is your supreme grand puuuuubaaaaa NObamaaaaaa and those DA's that follow it's loser lack of leadership. Why don't you go kiss the ground he walks on and be his lap dog.
B Allen
10:44 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
CAT-eee LESS. nice comeback, you just learned that word? I prefer to be called a capitalist. I have lived the American dream, from a lower middle class white family to providing a good living for my family and being able to not have to work at 55. Typical of you left wing nutjobs thinking you know something. Looks like you follow rule #5 "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." I would venture to say that you people keep trying to ridicule when you get hit with THE TRUTH, facts, figures and even video, you have to make foolish attacks, with the only ones believing you are the ones drinking the same koolaide. I think what Romney said is true. I feel my kids should be congratulated when they have made and make the honor roll, not the driver. BTW dumb-Butt ( I will keep it clean but you look and sound like your party mascot), I DO drive my kids to school every day, I don't need anyone thanking me. See another spoiled little village idiot who opens mouth and inserts foot. You cockroaches are REALLY coming out of the woodwork now...keep attacking with your nonsense and and others will continue to post the truth in order to educate you people, if at all possible. BTW cat-eeee less, I won't report you because I do not act like a spoiled little brat like you people. I want to keep you coming back so you can show how much of a fool you truly are. That is the FUN part, it keps me laughing to see how you dumb you people really are. I am kind to DUMB animals, not people.
B Allen
11:13 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
OMG, I just HAD to share this with everyone. I would venture to say that the smartest one was the last person interviewed. Take note as to how you people look to the rest of the world...DUHHHHHHH! http://www.conservativevideos.com/2012/09/democrats-lets-ban-profits/
G Hinson White
4:32 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
""What I hear Romney saying, and I suspect many others will also hear, is that the little people don't contribute and don't count," Robinson wrote."
It appears that this person and all of the bus drivers heard what they wanted to hear and twisted it to mean other than what was meant. Romney said nothing about 'respect, attitudes, etc.' What he said is that he "doesn't give the bus driver credit for the Honor Roll."
The honor roll is only concerned with scholastic achievement.
"In order to be eligible for Honor Roll, a student must maintain a "B" average during a grading period. Each student is permitted one "C" as long as it is balanced by a grade of "A" to keep the "B" average. Any grade lower than a "C" disqualifies the student from the Honor Roll that semester. No distinction is made between subjects or by the level of the class."
Nothing here about attitude, respect, etc. What the protest was actually about was a bunch of democrat union sheep doing as they were told by their leaders to try and discredit Romney.
B Allen
5:40 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Exactly G, just as we stated in the very beginning of the posts, then the attack dogs were sent out. Hopefully you did not open yourself for attacks, but I am sure, by your comment, that you also ae BIG enough to back your statements up, just as I am. But beating off the attack dogs is fun too, hehehe
G Hinson White
10:45 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Hey, I'm a dog trainer. Send the attack dogs on. :)
Lorna D. Rudnikas
11:05 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Frank darling, I am not outraged, but rather bored with left wing ideologue garbaaged. However, when push comes to shove and communist leaning little angels slither out from under the rocks..I must say, they do MAKE MY DAY!!! Love to challenge the hijackers of the democratic party as well as those who stand in total dumbfounded silence permitting it to happen, step, by step, by painful step!
Lorna D. Rudnikas
5:40 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Dear Editor....Curious...I keep getting comment update notifications via email, but don't see them on this thread!! Guidance, please!
B Allen
10:32 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Lorna, I think the editors are sick and tired of the fiction, fabricated facts, (well I really don't see any facts or figures), non-truth, the attacks, the name calling, the rudeness, the typical left wing meaning of as they call it "civility", on here. They may be cutting them off before they get on here. Just like that lamebrain Cateee--less, calling me a fascist. But when I told it to go look up the meaning, it probably saw its' picture next to the word. hahaha. I wonder if these knuckleheads are finally getting the picture that they are becomming OLD NEWS and are following the Rules for Radicals RULE 7: "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Don't become old news" I bet even alinsky is turning over in his grave with these knuckleheads and asking satan for a reprive to come back and take care of these people that are acting like idiots. hahaha
B Allen
11:14 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Maybe the bus drivers care more about the children we send to these schools. Seems teachers (well union slugs, cretins and water carriers) care more about themselves and getting more pay for less work. That is why we should be able to get vouchers to send our children to private schools, but NObama is against that too. This crap makes me sick, that is why unions should play NO part whatsoever in government jobs, they are a direct cause of higher taxes. Maybe one day you knuckleheads will realize it http://conservativebyte.com/2012/09/33644/
Christopher Kidwell
5:45 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Are you insane? Many teachers today take work home, pay for school supplies out of their own pockets, etc.
You just exposed yourself as someone who hates Unions because they get the workers in them a legitimately good deal 90% of the time.
Greedy business owner or someone who thinks that they are better off than they are is all I have to say.
B Allen
11:52 am on Friday, September 14, 2012
Chrissiegirl KID YOURSELF WELL again, you continue to show your true colors. Watch the video, you are LAZY, ignorant, a fool and a spoiled little brat, just like the rest of those marching and having fun. You people are jealous that others are way far better than you and have accomplished more by the time they were 25 then you will in a lifetime. I cannot stand stupid, ignorant and lazy people, therefore I cannot stand you. I know the teachers that would do the things you said tht teachers are doing, THEY would NEVER act nor march along with as they call them, "their socialist" brothers and sisters. The teachers i KNOW HAVE MORE SENSE AND would NEVER vote for a guy like your almighty. You should get off your soapbox and have a little more respect for yourself. All you do is make yourself look foolish when you post here.
You made me laugh!
1:24 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
@BAllen since it is Friday and I am a bit bored I will entertain talking to an idiot. Here is me doing you.
THE SHORT BUS HAS ARRIVED! Where's your helmet? It's scary to think that people like you are allowed to vote.If you have something to say, raise your hand and place it over your mouth. When you open your mouth you need a diaper to collect all the shit that comes out. Before you open your mouth to speak, make sure it's an improvement upon the silence. RULE #7 I DONT LIKE MYSELF SO WHY WOULD I LIKE YOU?
But the truly spectacular thing about you is you can post something like: "All you do is make yourself look foolish when you post here." That is why YOU MAKE ME LAUGH. And it is at you. You should get some kind of award for driving people away from your point of view.
Good luck in real life.
Christopher Kidwell
1:49 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
You made me laugh!, I have to agree. BAllen is a troll of the worst kind who keeps on slinging mud and worse like a monkey.
I'm just going to ignore him from now on because he is not interested in a discussion, entertaining new points of view and THINKING!
He is just trying to drive all liberal people off from posting on here with his abject bullshit. He's like the schoolyard bully who keeps on picking on all the other kids until someone stands up and socks him one in real life.
Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen because the nature of the internet is "Not in real life!"
B Allen
2:39 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012
HAHAHAHA what richard craniums you are... See once again you pansies have nothing bright to say but to attack, stomp your feet and hold your breath until you turn blue in the face. You were given TRUE facts and figures and videos and you still don't get it...you just attack, attack and attack, the truth and post ignorant comments. You are a couple of abortions that lived. Too bad your mothers (if you have one and were not born in a test tube) did not cross their legs or have to wash their hair the night you were conceived. YOU PEOPLE make me laugh because you are soooo stuck on stupid. You think you are such big GIRLS hiding behind the computer. HAHAHA, FUNNY HOW THE TRUTH HURTS you LITTLE PANSIES> RULE 7: "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news.
YOU PANSIES are OLD NEWS. NOW, GO BACK AND REALLY READ THE COMMENTS AND GO TO THE GOVERNMENT WEBSITES THE INFO WAS TAKEN FROM...AND WATCH THE VIDEOS OF THE LEFTIES AND THE SOCIALISTS MARCHING IN THE STREET. Many are not even from Chicago, they are bussed in from other places and states.
You made me laugh!
8:38 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012
@BAllen my gift to you is a new home. My dog died a week ago and I need a new one. You would be perfect. I have a nice place by my fire place you can sleep. I even have a kennel all setup. He used to bark alot. His barking was not understandable to a human but he sure like to make some noise! You would be perfect.
Rule #88 Bark for me. Come on puppy. Bark for me.
B Allen
7:28 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
HAHAHA, Looks like the retreads have nothing to say other than attack. Guess they did not like the truth, the articles and the videos I have been posting. Have to go on attack and call people names, such little pansies who won't come out of the shadows or from behind the computer. This is what unions and union members are all about. They are just like the rest of you little girl leftist pansies posting on here. You talk your talk, but you could NEVER walk the walk, you are way too incompetent and unable to think for yourselves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ve2ZjLwro
B Allen
12:02 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Chrissiegirl, Rules for Nitwits (opps Radicals), RULE 7: "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news."
Even Saul Alinsky knew when he published this trash that you WILL try tactics and keep trying nutjob tactics if you do not win an argument. Give it up, you are too dumb, ignorant and foolish to win anything. I think even your other girlfriends have abandoned you because they see they cannot win ANY arguments and they see that you are being a fool. If you are mad because you cannot ever be successful, then go ask NObama for more money in your welfare check.
Christopher Kidwell
1:53 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Oh, give it up, B Allen. Try 'tactics'? You mean telling the truth about conservative policies, pointing out that during Bush's term in office we had a stock market crash, were steadily losing jobs, that the two wars overseas were a waste of time and treasury, etc.
Yep, those are the 'tactics' that I am going to use and they are going to keep coming.
If you don't like that? Tough cookies, facts are facts and they lie on the side of conservative economic policies and the anti-union tactics of the conservatives not working. Those two things are actually all about decimating the middle class and turning everyone into poor serfs, as you can see by the fact that all the jobs created by conservative economic policies down south are ones that people HAVE TO BE ON FEDERAL SOCIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS (coming straight from the numbers published by states like Texas) because they don't pay enough to survive without those social programs.
B Allen
2:27 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012
Crisseygirl...kid yourself even moreso...You are an idiot. I bet even while you are typing your comments, you were holding your breath and stomping your feet, just like a spoiled little girl. You spew back the twisted ficticious facts of the left wing nutjobs. You know the Rules for Radical tactic is to take the facts and twist them to create another story and then attack the "fabrication" of the truth, which then you lefties only hear from the mainstream. It is too bad that you cannot take the truth that I post from government statistics, the REAL numbers and the REAL facts. Hell, even the repubic of MD and the nunbers that the village idiot NOmalley is putting out there is being questioned. I saw them on federal government websites, i.e. Dept of Labor, sometning you would not know about.Yours statements are heresay and bear NO truth whatsoever. You say conservatives want to desimate the middle class, HAHAHAH you are an idiot...just because you are lazy and a worthless sperm. Romney wants to REDUCE taxes on those making $250k and less. Too bad idiots like yourself hate the fact that a professional family income may be $250K. You know, hard work makes a difference, having your hand out for freebees does not make it. What street corner do you beg on? I will drive by and give you NObamas phone number to call him and ask him for more. You are a really stupid abortion that lived.
You made me laugh!
8:43 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012
@Christopher - this guy is almost done. Let me play with him a little bit more. It is kind of unfair for me to spar with him given his handicap. I do feel a little bit bad, but I think he was asking for it.
I can't wait for Rule # 7 again. Woof woof. Good doggie.
Christopher Kidwell
10:14 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012
Agreed on that, You. It's gotten to the point where I've lumped this guy into the 'troll' category and I just am not going to respond to him anymore, because all he does is personal attacks, insults and innuendo.
Typical conservative/conservacreep. Whenever you are winning an argument, out come the insults.
B Allen
7:15 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012
your Egotism has gotten the best of you. Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. I am kind to dumb animals, what excuses do you people have? You people are so full of yourself, it is pathetic. You have not gotten the best of me, you just managed to make yourself look even dumber and more foolish. When you would have thought you hit the very bottom of the gene pool, you have managed to bring out another NEW LOW. hahaha, pathetic cretins (here is the definition for you pansies so you don't have to damage more brain cells trying to figure it out, your pictures are next to the UD description) hahaha you libtards...hahaha http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cretin
B Allen
7:30 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012
BTW, I know why you people have to attack. You can't stand seeing someone being successful in their life. You people think being mediocre at best is enough. I don't bad mouth you because you want to flip hamburgers or clean toilets. The problem I have with you people is that you bitch and moan like little girls about your jobs. Also, you complain about those who own the business because THEY ARE SMART enough to start a business and take the RISK necessary to give you a job and make payroll, but don't want to do anything to make things better for yourself. Why should an employer pay $10.00/hr for a job that is only worth min wage? You can't have your cake and eat it too. YOU LITTLE PANSIES ARE really NOT WORTH MY TIME, YOU BEING STUCK ON STUPID AND ALL. Go look up the facts I pointed out, oh wait, you people don't look up the TRUE FACTS because they hurt you, you did nothing but go on attack and look like the spoiled little girls that you are.
B Allen
7:37 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012
You lefties have managed to make yourself look like fools and post your talking points from the left, you attacked the facts and figures right from the beginning, you have attacked videos that show how worthless you people are and how anti American and pro socialist you people are. You have NOT posted any facts or figures, you just rant and rave and act like spoiled little brats. I am tired of seeing your typical attacts of the truth...YOU PEOPLE ARE OLD NEWS...and a bunch of wannabe's. You people are STUCK ON STUPID and will go through life being STUCK ON STUPID. See ya, don't wanna be ya.
You made me laugh!
7:48 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012
@BAllen when you can't spell the word animal, and you repeat STUCK ON STUPID and OLD NEWS as much as you do. You might be the joke.
Rule #43 I am so angry inside. I like Picture books.
Bark for me doggie.
B Allen
9:44 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012
HAHAHA Laughing AT you, not with you...I guess you never read my comment about purposely misspelling a word so it gies you something to attack. To try and make yourself feel big, even though you are such a little pansie. I use those terms because they apply to what you libtards are. I have siad it beofre and I will say it again, I TELL THE TRUTH AND I TELL IT LIKE IT IS. SO, what that means I will call you what you are and how you look to the world. Have some respect for yourself instead of looking like a complete idiot. You must be another one who enjoys being humiliated...
You made me laugh!
3:32 pm on Sunday, September 16, 2012
Since you are being a good doggie and barking for me I will break it down for you. You are of limited mind. It is why you keep repeating yourself. You like simple arguments because your world view is simple. You don't like thinking deeply about anything because it's not something that comes easy to you. If you were to swim in a pool the water would need to be very very shallow. Like baby pool shallow.
I on the other hand am smarter than you. More successful then you. Funnier than you. I would guess younger than you and probably a lot better looking too. The only reason I am even on this thread at this point is to watch you squirm. It could be poor character on my part but nobody is perfect.
Rule #18 It's not that you sound stupid on this thread that is the problem...it's that we'll you are stupid.
Rule #76 I tell the truth. You are dumb. See the picture book comment and tell me it's not true. Woof woof doggie.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
9:58 pm on Sunday, September 16, 2012
So you left leaning folks are into dogs now...mmmm, interesting!! Just stopped by to see how you folks are doing. Sad, very sad indeed. Words of wisdom.... "wag and the world wags with you, bark and they put out outside!" ha, ha, ha.
You made me laugh!
8:58 am on Monday, September 17, 2012
@Lorna "wag and the world wags with you, bark and they put out outside". No idea what you just said. I think you were trying to tell us something useful. Please try again.
Rule #29 If you use the words Wisdom in a sentence, what follows should probably make sense. Otherwise you make yourself look very very stupid.
Comeback #45 I know you probably don't make sense on purpose just so there is something to get attacked on. - @BAllen
B Allen
10:59 am on Monday, September 17, 2012
Hey there little girl You Keep me laughing...sounds more like you are stomping your feet and holding your breath. You are really mentally challanged...evidently that 2% of grey matter they left after sucking your brains out, is not working for you...you really do Make me laugh at you. Geeze, I thought Frankiegirl was bad but You are REALLY some kind of mental midget.
You made me laugh!
1:45 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012
@BAllen. I will talk slow because I am nice to animals. Bark for me doggie and I will give you a treat.
Rule #23 Live by the Troll and you die by the Troll.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
11:33 am on Monday, September 17, 2012
You made me laugh......of course you don't get it honey child, you are either too old, too young or for sure too full of yourself with your nasty little come-back remarks. Actually it is from the well known and beloved Walt Disney movie "Lady and the Tramp"....lighten up for God's sake!!! As for "wisdom" that is probably something you could use a little more of and less nonsensical name calling garbaaage whirling round and round in a word game fog. Yikes!!!
You made me laugh!
1:58 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012
@Lorna because you fancy yourself erudite I will engage you slightly differently from my new doggie @BAllen.
"War is what happens when language fails."
― Margaret Atwood
This means you decided to become shitty to people personally on this thread. Rather than attempt to engage on a level commensurate with someone of your depth of knowledge and character you became quite bombastic.
"All war is a symptom of man's failure as a thinking animal."
― John Steinbeck
Again you can understand now why my new doggie is called @BAllen. A failure to think has caused him to Troll. Or as he would probably put it TROLL.
"War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
― Bertrand Russell
Sadly we find ourselves in this spot. Who will be left.
Rule #465 "wag and the world wags with you, bark and they put out outside" still does not make any sense if you speak english.
B Allen
7:11 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
You make me laugh----AT YOU !!! You like to hide behind the computer like a little pansie and attack. I have posted MANY facts, figures, videos, the truth as it is, REAL stories and comments. You and your little pansie lapdogs that like to lick and stroke each other in your little circle (you know what) can do NOTHING but attack. I have NOT seen anything positive from you or the likes of you posted, other then the hatred, the bigotry, the racist, sexist, left wing nutjob tactics. If you people spent as much positive energy on something as you do negative energy, maybe things would be better. When you people attack me when I post the truth, you WILL NOT win. I will NOT let myself be manipulated as you people allow yourselves to be. Too bad that little bit of grey matter you have between the holes in your head is not working properly. Your Socialist Rules for Radicals is not going to work here or anywhere else. You are such a little pansie.
B Allen
8:13 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
See how stupid you are Frankie girl, little pansie. I don't even listen to Glen Beck, don't need to, I can make up my own mind by reading and finding out the truth. I can see you D/s little pansies humiliating yourselves (I can see you like to be used and humiliated, what is that called? I am sure you know or maybe your girlfriends know) by your rants and raves like little 4 yo girl temper tantrums (hell, I bet you wear diapers too)...all you know is how to go on attack when the truth hits your right between the eyes. That is how spoiled little brats act when they are caught in lies, they try to blame others. Hell, you are a bunch of racists, you like to keep the blacks unemployed 14% all blacks/48% black youth, uneducated (hell, even Obama voted against the voucher program so blacks could not go to better schools like he does for his daughters..hahahamust be the 1/2 white dumbocrap in him to hold blacks down) and unable to care for themselves and keep them on government handouts for that vote. Also, why would anyone use the "C" word to describe a female conservative politician? It is exactly how you retreads act, you think your attack methods work. You pansies are such amatures, I bet even Saul Alinsky is turning over in his grave. You people are really taking yourselves to new lows...and this is my last post to you little girls. Knocking you down over the computer is boring and you people are boring me to no ends with your crapola. You all need to be "B" slapped.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
4:37 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012
Well darling...you need a vacation...perhaps somewhere in the South Pacific..palm trees, peace and quite..no cell phones. Please take time to read what you just wrote and tell who, my little precious is "bombastic" "sh*tty" "barking" and truly beside your little ole self, honey child. Like I said before..lighten up darling!!! When I took a little stroll back to this thread, was interesting how far you have not come!!
Lorna D. Rudnikas
5:04 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012
And one more thing angel, I don't fancy myself at all. Actually it is you and your like friends who bathe in describing others in very negative terms, and who get very, very excited if you think you have touched a nerve. Almost like making a "touchdown"...but not here, honey child, not here. I very much enjoy your efforts to twist and turn and label and show your true colors. No prob Bob, bring it on!
Lorna D. Rudnikas
5:59 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012
Oh, one more thing...what is all this talk of "war" honey child...who are you at "war" with. Them's are some strong words coming from a gentle soul such as yourself.
B Allen
7:45 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
It is so easy to prove how easily these koolaide drinkers are manipulated. I commented a while back about "I am kind to dumb animals but not dumb people", they saw that comment twisted the words around, and went on attacking those who do not share their twisted state of mind (what little they have) as dogs, what a bunch of retards. Do you really think really bothers me? hahaha. I bet they are "stroking each other" thinking they are getting over.I just consider the source, and in this case unreliable sources, who can NEVER come up with any facts or figures to substantiate ANYTHING they say...oh wait, how can you substantiate hatred, bigotry, racism and sexism...Seems the leftie lucies can, in their own minds.
You made me laugh!
8:35 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
I think we have a nice pattern in place here now. I say Bark and you do it for me.
Rule #490 You telling me you are not bothered makes me so happy. I don't believe you.
Why did you stop your stupid rules? They were so funny. Please try one for me. Come on puppy.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
4:18 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Someone needs to keep score...bAllen is drawing you two in left and right...koolaide and lose and you both fell for it. :-)
By the way "you made me laugh" I am going to finally let you relax regarding "wag and the world...." The exact words are "wag and the world wags with you. Howl and they put you outside." Since you are into "dogs" so much, thought you might appreciate it. Looks like not however. I try, I really, really, try honey child!
You made me laugh!
5:01 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
@Lorna @BAllen is a troll on every single thread he is on. You are judged by the character of the company you keep. Choose wisely.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
5:20 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
But..either way used..assistant and assistance...the need is definitely there.
You made me laugh!
11:05 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
@Lorna, serious question. I just did a search and my dog posted "little girl" 19 different times on this thread. I have to believe there is something there. As a woman you don't think his fixation with little girls somehow marginalizes his otherwise brilliant exposition on the fallacies of liberal thinking? Really?
To me it seems like my comments earlier about him living in his parents basement masturbating and being angry are pretty accurate. I don't know. Stranger things are true.
Bark for me. I feel like it is ground hog day.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
12:02 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
You seem to be having a nightmare darling...you come across as so very crude. Or, could it be that you enjoy crude nightmares, honey child???? And you still want to be talked to like a dog,....mmmmm. Wonder when it all began, even more interesting, how did it all begin, poor angel???? Perhaps too much political demonizing has caused a synaptic misfire..it happens, you know.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
5:43 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
"selective blindness"...not bad...not crude, not particularly rude, not going for the jugular, but still staying on track with your particular brand of analytical perceptions. For some reason, Frank, I sense you may be mellowing in your old age!! Oh, oh, just kidding, just kidding.
You made me laugh!
8:44 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
@Lorna if you think your methods of trolling are better than mine good for you.
I think the truth is you are lonely and appreciate the male attention you are getting on this thread. It would be so easy to go away, and yet here you are.
Rule #994 Not all male attention is good attention. Honey child.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
10:44 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
You made me laugh! Trolling..smolling...judging from these remarks looks like you may have had some bad experiences. As for male attention? There you go again trying to touch a nerve...sorry darling, won't work!! ...Heck one can only assume your gender...with you folks not revealing either way...might be "martians"..who knows. Certainly you don't touch nerves on this end. Having too much fun with your profound terminology and looking forward to your endless efforts to aggravate. So, go on with your bad self, honey child!!! One note: would be nice if you made some true political sense once in a while..but who am I to judge you, darling! So, I just pop in once in a while and have a little back and forth fun!
You made me laugh!
10:48 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
@Lorna. Nerve is raw and red. Frequency of posts on this thread by you is increasing. The evidence is empirical. You are starved for attention.
Rule #093 There has not been political talk on this thread since the trolls came to town. It is just you, me and the rest of the sometime trolls.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
11:13 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
You made me laugh....you are so right and that is sad. You and a few others in your corner seem to take it upon yourselves to drive all sensible discourse out the window. Sometimes you win...sometimes you don't and then there are the times when you are just hanging in the wind, darling. Funny...everyone is starved for attention but you..mmmm your interpretation of facts is wanting kiddo! Rule #4,912
you've met your match sweetie...keep on digging Watson!!!
You made me laugh!
11:30 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
@Lorna whatever let's you sleep at night. You are not and will never be a match for me honey child. Exposed and raw. Bark for me.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
6:23 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Poor, pathetic, morose darling. Nuff said!!!
You made me laugh!
8:11 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
You really are starved for attention. I told you never going to happen.
Bark for me.
You made me laugh!
11:34 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
@Lorna Radunski you are more loyal than my dog. You are an inspiration to women everywhere. Stand by your man god damn it. Come on bark for me.
B Allen
2:16 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012
OMG, you retard making yourself laugh...I am sure you are WELL aware of how stupid you are and how foolish you look to the rest of the world. I REALLY feel sorry for you that you have NO respect for yourself or others. You are even lower in the gene pool then that woman from Boca Raton...oh wait, that was you that made that call or so it seems and you moved to Maryland because they laughed you out of Boca...NOW WE KNOW. HAHAHAHAH Yeah you do make me laugh at you with all your lies you post here.
B Allen
2:21 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Maybe you making everyone laugh at you, will grow up one day and stop acting like a pussy (cat). Which you are because you have to hide behind this left wing sounding board as the little pansie you are. Hell, Lorna could probably squish you like a bug, so you better watch out what you say to her. Oh wait, thats right, you lefties are racists, bigots, sexists you hate women, you don't like clean air because every time you open your mouths a bunch of crap comes out. HAHAHAHA what a tard.
You made me laugh!
4:14 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012
@Your master welcomes you back to the empty thread. I think this year I am going to make you wear a diaper in the house. Or maybe just keep you outside. You need to be house broken.
Come on and bark for me.