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Mormonism and polygamy/Early Christians on plural marriage/Further Reading
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Mormonism and polygamy
Polygamy in Latter-day Saint scripture
- 1835 Doctrine and Covenants denies polygamy—
The 1835 edition of the D&C contained a statement of marriage which denied the practice of polygamy. Since this was published during Joseph Smith's lifetime, why might the prophet have allowed it to be published if he was actually practicing polygamy at that time? (Link) - Book of Mormon condemns the practice—
Critics of Mormonism use the Book of Jacob to show that the Book of Mormon condemns the practice of polygamy. Critics go on to claim that Joseph Smith ignored this restriction by introducing the doctrine of plural marriage. (Link)
Polygamy in the 19th Century
- Deseret News 7 Nov 1855 - Polygamy never to go away—
Critics claim that some Church leaders taught that plural marriage was a practice that would persist forever. Jerald and Sandra Tanner wrote that "Brigham Young" said that polygamy would never go away in Deseret News of 7 November 1855. (Link) - Divorce in the 19th century—
Some members of the Church remarried without obtaining a formal legal divorce. Critics of the Church try to make this seem dishonest and adulterous, when it was in fact the norm for the period, especially on the frontier and among the poor. Critics are not honest about the legal realities faced by nineteenth century Americans. (Link) - Did early Church leaders speak of plural marriage difficulties?—
Critics claim that early Church leaders "admitted" that there were many difficulties with plural marriage that caused "problems" and "great sorrow." (Link) - Divine manifestations to plural wives and families—
Did those who entered into plural marriage do so simply because Joseph Smith (or another Church leader) "told them to"? Is this an example of "blind obedience"? No, they bore witness that only powerful revelatory experiences convinced them that the command was from God. (Link) - Lamanites to become "white and delightsome" through polygamous marriage—
Critics claim that the Church "suppressed" a revelation given to Joseph Smith in 1831 which encouraged the implementation of polygamy by intermarriage with the Indians in order to make them a "white and delightsome" people. (Link) - Practiced after the Manifesto—
limited number of plural marriages were solemnized after Wilford Woodruff's Manifesto of 1890 (Official Declaration 1). Some of these marriages were apparently sanctioned by some in positions of Church leadership. Critics claim that this demonstrates that the Manifesto was merely a political tactic, and that the "revelation" of the Manifesto was merely a cynical ploy. They also claim that Post-Manifesto marriages demonstrate the LDS Church's contempt for the civil law of the land. (Link) - Prevalence of in Utah—
What was the prevalence of polygamy in Utah? How many wives did most polygamist males have? (Link) - Purpose of plural marriage—
Why would the Lord have commanded the 19th century Saints to implement plural marriage? What purpose(s) did polygamy accomplish? (Link) - Requirement for exaltation—
Some Church leaders taught that plural marriage was a requirement for those wishing to enter the highest degree of the celestial kingdom. Because the Church does not currently practice plural marriage, critics claim this means that either the leaders were wrong, or that current members are not destined for exaltation. (Link) - The Law of Adoption—
Critics point to the early practice of sealing men and women as children to prominent LDS leaders as an example of changes in LDS belief. (Link) - Brigham Young and polygamy (Link)
- Brigham Young said that the only men who become gods are those that practice polygamy—
Since Brigham Young said "The only men who become Gods, even the sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy" (Journal of Discourses 11:269), does this mean plural marriage is required for exaltation? (Link) - Remarrying without civil divorce—
Some critics like to emphasize that some LDS members did not receive civil divorces before remarrying—either monogamously or polygamously. They either state or imply that this shows the Saints' cavalier attitude toward the law. (Link) - Parley P. Pratt's marriage and murder—
Some critics claim that Parley P. Pratt's practice of polygamy was responsible for his murder, partly because he married a woman who hadn't been divorced from her first husband. What can you tell me about this? (Link) - Leaders worried missionaries take best plural wives—
Critics claim that nineteenth century Church leaders worried that missionaries would "take all the best" convert women as plural wives before they got to Salt Lake. (Link)
Polygamy in the 20th Century
- Relationship to the modern Church—
Critics or ill-informed commentators often try to make it appear as if modern polygamist groups continue to have Church connections. Some often call upon the Church to "stop" the polygamist activities of such groups. (Link)
Polygamy as practiced anciently
- Early Christians on plural marriage—
There is extensive, unequivocal evidence that polygamous relationships were condoned under various circumstances by biblical prophets, despite how uncomfortable this might make a modern Christian. Elder Orson Pratt was widely viewed as the victor in a three-day debate on this very point with Reverend John P. Newman, Chaplain of the U.S. Senate, in 1870. (Link)
Joseph Smith and polygamy
Implementation of plural marriage
- Initiation of the practice—
When and how did plural marriage begin in the Church? (Link) - Works of Abraham—
D&C 132 tells Joseph and others to "do the works of Abraham." What are the "works of Abraham?" (Link) - Claims that polygamy is not Biblical—
The criticism that polygamy is irreligious appeals to western sensibilities which favor monogamy, and argues that polygamy is inconsistent with biblical Christianity or (ironically) the Book of Mormon itself. (Link) - Does the Book of Mormon condemn polygamy?—
Critics use the Book of Jacob to show that the Book of Mormon condemns the practice of polygamy, and go on to claim that Joseph Smith ignored this restriction by introducing the doctrine of plural marriage. (Link) - Early Christians on plural marriage—
There is extensive, unequivocal evidence that polygamous relationships were condoned under various circumstances by biblical prophets, despite how uncomfortable this might make a modern Christian. Elder Orson Pratt was widely viewed as the victor in a three-day debate on this very point with Reverend John P. Newman, Chaplain of the U.S. Senate, in 1870.[1] (Link) - Claims that polygamists are allowed to go beyond normal "bounds"—
Critics claim that Joseph Smith and Brigham Young admitted that the practice of polygamy meant they were "free to go beyond the normal 'bounds'" and "the normal rules governing social interaction had not applied to" Joseph. (Link)
Critics' claimed motivations for Joseph's implementation of plural marriage
- Did Joseph have "lustful motives" for practicing polygamy?—
Neutral observers have long understood that this attack is probably the weakest of them all. One might reasonably hold the opinion that Joseph was wrong, but in the face of the documentary evidence it is laughable to argue that he and his associates were insincere or that they were practicing their religion only for power and to satisfy carnal desires. Those who insist that "sex is the answer" reveal more about their own limited perspective than they do of the minds of the early Saints. (Link) - Critical claims that Joseph had a youthful struggle with unchastity—
Some critics charge that Joseph Smith had youthful struggles with immoral actions. They claim that these are what eventually led him to teach the doctrine of plural marriage. (Link) - Early womanizer—
Critics charge that Joseph Smith had a long history of "womanizing" before practicing plural marriage. This chapter includes Eliza Winters and Marinda Nancy Johnson. (Link)
Keeping plural marriage a secret
- Hiding the truth about polygamy—
It is true that Joseph did not always tell others about plural marriage. He did, however, make some attempt to teach the doctrine to the Saints. It is thus important to realize that the public preaching of polygamy—or announcing it to the general Church membership, thereby informing the public by proxy—was simply not a feasible plan. Critics of Joseph's choice want their audience to ignore the danger to him and the Saints. (Link) - Illegal to practice polygamy?—
Polygamy was certainly declared illegal during the Utah-era anti-polygamy crusade, and was arguably illegal under the Illinois anti-bigamy statutes. This is hardly new information, and Church members and their critics knew it. Modern members of the Church generally miss the significance of this fact, however: the practice of polygamy was a clear case of civil disobedience. (Link) - Did Joseph write secret "love letters" to any of his polygamous wives?—
Critics claim that on 18 August 1842 Joseph Smith wrote a "love letter" to Sarah Ann Whitney requesting a secret rendezvous or "tryst." Joseph had been sealed to Sarah Ann three weeks prior to this time. What does this letter actually say? (Link)
Entering into plural marriage
- Plural wives of Joseph Smith, Jr.—
Critical claims related to specific plural wives of Joseph Smith, Jr. (Link) - Why was Joseph sealed to young women?—
Critics argue that Joseph Smith's polygamous marriages to young women are evidence that he was immoral, perhaps even a pedophile. (Link) - Fanny Alger and William McLellin—
With a lone exception, there is no account after Joseph's death of Emma admitting Joseph's plural marriages in any source. The reported exception is recorded in a newspaper article and two letters written by excommunicated Latter-day Saint apostle William E. McLellin. The former apostle claimed to have visited Emma in 1847 and to have discussed Joseph's relationship with Fanny Alger. McLellin also reported a tale he had heard about Joseph and Fanny Alger in which they were allegedly observed by Emma together in the barn. (Link) - Women locked in a room—
Were women locked in a room while Joseph attempted to persuade them? (Link) - Did women turn Joseph down?—
Some critics have claimed that significant pressure was put on women to practice plural marriage in Nauvoo. Did any of these women resist or refuse? What were the consequences of doing so? (Link)
Complex plural marriages
- Joseph Smith and polyandry—
Joseph Smith was sealed to women who were married to men who were still living. Some of these men were even active members of the Church. (Link)
How Emma Smith dealt with plural marriage
- What was Emma's reaction to Joseph's practice of polygamy?—
Critics contend that Emma Hale Smith either did not approve of the Prophet Joseph Smith having plural wives or know of the revelation concerning celestial marriage(s). (Link)
Consequences of plural marriage
- Did Joseph have any children through polygamous marriages?—
Critics claim that Joseph Smith fathered children with some of his plural wives, and that he covered up the evidence of pregnancies. They also claim that Joseph Smith had intimate relations with other men's wives to whom he had been sealed, and that children resulted from these unions. DNA testing has so far proven these allegations to be false. (Link)
- Sealing brother and sister together—
Critics announce that Joseph "sealed" brothers and sisters together, perhaps hoping that readers will conclude that brothers and sisters were thus married and engaging in incestuous relationships. (Link)
FAIR web site
- Barry R. Bickmore, "The Temple," in Restoring the Ancient Church: Joseph Smith and Early Christianity (FAIR publication, 1999)chapter #6.Direct link (Key source)
Plural marriage FAIR links |
- FAIR Topical Guide: Polyandry FAIR link
- FAIR Topical Guide: Polygamy FAIR link
- Suzanne Armitage, "O that my voice could reach the ears of those uninformed and misinformed." FAIR link
- Claudia Bushman, "Lives of Mormon Women," FAIR presentation transcript, 2006. FAIR link
- Michael W. Fordham, 'Ask the Apologist'—Plural Marriage in the Book of Mormon and D&C" FAIR link
- Gregory L. Smith, "Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Plural Marriage (*But Were Afraid to Ask)," FAIR Conference presentation (7 August 2009).
- Gregory L. Smith, "Polygamy, Prophets, and Prevarication: Frequently and Rarely Asked Questions about the Initiation, Practice, and Cessation of Plural Marriage in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," FAIR, 2005. PDF link
- Allen Wyatt, "Zina and Her Men: An Examination of the Changing Marital State of Zina Diantha Huntington Jacobs Smith Young," FAIR presentation transcript, 2006. FAIR link
External links
Plural marriage on-line articles |
- James B. Allen, "Line upon Line," Ensign (July 1979), 32–40. off-site
- Edwin B. Firmage, "The Judicial Campaign against Polygamy and the Enduring Legal Questions," Brigham Young University Studies 27 no. 3 (Summer 1987), 91–113. PDF link
- Danel Bachman, Ronald K. Esplin, "Plural Marriage," in Encyclopedia of Mormonism, 4 vols., edited by Daniel H. Ludlow, (New York, Macmillan Publishing, 1992), 3:1091–1095. off-site off-site off-site
- Stephen R. Gibson, "Does the Book of Mormon Forbid Polygamy," lightplanet.com. off-site
- Gordon Irving, "The Law of Adoption: One Phase of the Development of the Mormon Concept of Salvation, 1830–1900," Brigham Young University Studies 14 no. 3 (Spring 1974), 291–314. PDF link
- Stephen E. Robinson, Are Mormons Christians? (Salt Lake City, Utah: Deseret Book Company, 1993),90–96. off-site FAIR link
- Gilbert W. Scharffs, The Truth About "The Godmakers": A Response to an Inaccurate Portrayal of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Salt Lake City: Publishers Press, 1986). FAIR link
- Gregory L. Smith, "George D. Smith's Nauvoo Polygamy (A review of "Nauvoo Polygamy:...but we called it celestial marriage" by: George D. Smith)," FARMS Review 20/2 (2008): 37–123. off-site PDF link wiki
- W. John Walsh, "Is Plural Marriage Necessary for Exaltation?" off-site
- Robert B. White, "A Review of the Dust Jacket and the First Two Pages (A review of "Nauvoo Polygamy:...but we called it celestial marriage" by: George D. Smith)," FARMS Review 20/2 (2008): 125–129. off-site PDF link wiki
- Mormon-polygamy.org off-site
Printed material
Plural marriage printed references |
- Danel W. Bachman, "A Study of the Mormon Practice of Polygamy Before the Death of Joseph Smith," (1975) (unpublished M.A. thesis, Purdue University).
- Todd Compton, In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 1997), 1. ( Index of claims )
- Reviews of In Sacred Loneliness:
- Richard Lloyd Anderson and Scott H. Faulring, "The Prophet Joseph Smith and His Plural Wives (Review of In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith)," FARMS Review of Books 10/2 (1998): 67–104. off-site PDF link
- Danel W. Bachman, "Prologue to the Study of Joseph Smith's Marital Theology (Review of In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith)," FARMS Review of Books 10/2 (1998): 105–137. off-site PDF link
- Danel W. Bachman, "'Let No One…Set On My Servant Joseph': Religious Historians Missing the Lessons of Religious History," Presentation to Mormon History Association, 22 May 1999. PDF link
- Kathryn Daynes, "Review of In Sacred Loneliness," Pacific Historical Review 68 (August 1999): 466–468. off-site
- Alma G. Allred, "Variations on a Theme," Presentation to Mormon History Association, 1999, updated on-line version of 6 December 1999. PDF link
- Todd Compton's response to Anderson, Faulring, and Bachman Reviews in FARMS Review of In Sacred Loneliness (July 2001). off-site
- Todd Compton's response to Jerald and Sandra Tanners' Review of In Sacred Loneliness (n.d.). off-site
- Kathryn M. Daynes, More Wives than One: Transformation of the Mormon Marriage System, 1840–1910 (Urbana, Illinois: University of Illinois Press, 2001), 1. ISBN 0252026810.
- Stephen R. Gibson, One-Minute Answers to Anti-Mormon Questions (Bountiful, Utah: Horizon Publishers, 1995).
- Jeni Broberg Holzapfel and Richard Neitzel Holzapfel, eds., A Woman's View: Helen Mar Whitney's Reminiscences of Early Church History (Provo: Religious Studies Center, BYU, 1997). ISBN 1570083576. ISBN 978-1570083570. GospeLink (requires subscrip.)
- Joseph Fielding McConkie, Answers: Straightforward Answers to Tough Gospel Questions (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, 1998), 27–28. GospeLink (requires subscrip.)
- Ugo A. Perego, Natalie M. Myres, and Scott R. Woodward, 'Reconstructing the Y-Chromosome of Joseph Smith: Genealogical Applications," Journal of Mormon History 31/3 (Fall 2005): 42-60. (Discusses how DNA shows that the parentage of Moroni Pratt, Zebulon Jacobs, and Orrison Smith is not through Joseph Smith).
- John A. Widtsoe, Evidences and Reconciliations: Aids to Faith in a Modern Day, arranged by G. Homer Durham (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1960), 340–344. GospeLink (requires subscrip.)
- John A. Widtsoe, Evidences and Reconciliations: Aids to Faith in a Modern Day, arranged by G. Homer Durham (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1960), 390–393. GospeLink (requires subscrip.)


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SALEMBURG — Mrs. Lena Bertha Lisi, 90, of 4494 Tyndall Bridge Road, died on Wednesday, Nov. 28, 2012 at Autumn Wind Assisted Living in Roseboro.
The funeral will be held at 11 a.m. on Saturday, Dec. 1, at Union Grove Baptist Church with the Rev. Allen West and the Rev. Paul Honeycutt officiating. Burial will follow in the church cemetery.
Mrs. Lisi was born on May 31, 1922 in Sampson County to the late Richard and Lela Tew Honeycutt. She was a member of Union Grove Baptist Church and worked as a claims adjustor with Provident Life Insurance Company for 15 years.
She is survived by two nieces, Wanda Naylor Kelly and husband, Timmy, and Trilma Naylor Odom and husband, Micky, all of Salemburg; four great nieces and nephews, Jason Kelly, Amy Kelly, Micky Odom and Bobbie Alman; and numerous other nieces and nephews.
The family will receive friends on Saturday morning from 10 to 10:45 A.M. at Union Grove Baptist Church, 395 Vander Road, Salemburg, and other times at 4493 Tyndall Bridge Road, Salemburg.
Services entrusted to Butler Funeral Home, 401 W. Roseboro St., Roseboro.

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Lawmakers in Concord are debating whether elderly drivers should be required to take road tests before renewing their driver's licenses.
The House Transportation Committee heard testimony on a bill Tuesday that would require testing of older drivers. Bette Champney told the committee that her husband, Gary Champney, and another motorcyclist were killed last year when they were struck by a car driven by an 87-year-old man.
"He would be here today if it wasn't for that elderly driver who overreached and overdrove straight into Gary," she said.
Police were still investigating the crash when the driver died of his injuries. But that crash and others have sparked a renewed debate over whether older drivers should be road-tested based solely on their age.
Rep. Tara Sad, D-Walpole, said she thinks 85 might be a good starting point.
"The issue of age discrimination is top on my list of concerns," she said. "I feel that statistics prove there is a legitimate basis for testing because of public safety, but it needs to be examined."
AARP spokesman Bob Denz said there are problems with testing older drivers.
"AARP has found that age-based testing has not been effective," he said.
But Denz said the AARP is open to having the discussion, especially because an aging population means there are more older drivers on the road.
Denz said it can be a tricky subject for family members to address or for the driver to acknowledge. He said it's a problem that continues to evolve, along with solutions to it.


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Churchill Downs to Kick Off Derby Week, Spring Meet in Style Under Lights with Saturday's 6 P.M. 'Opening Night' Premiere
Let the party begin! Churchill Downs will kick off Kentucky Derby Week and its 38-day Spring Meet in style Saturday night with a rousing prime-time 11-race program that begins at 6 p.m. EDT.
Derby / Oaks Update - Thursday, April 25, 2013
Pletcher Duo of Capo Bastone and Forty Tales Top Field of Nine for Saturday Night's Derby Trial
The Todd Pletcher-trained duo of Eclipse Thoroughbred Partners' Capo Bastone and Perretti Racing Stable's Forty Tales top a field of nine horses entered today for Saturday night's 89th running of the $175,000-added Derby Trial (GIII).
Derby / Oaks Update - Wednesday, April 24, 2013
BLACK ONYX – Sterling Racing's Black Onyx (No. 12) beat the rain Wednesday morning, galloping 1 ½ miles under exercise rider Aurelio Gomez shortly after 6 o'clock.
Derby / Oaks Update - Monday, April 22, 2013
Pletcher Works Quartet Toward Oaks, Rose to Gold Breezes and Black Onyx Has Strong Gallop
It was a busy Saturday morning at the Todd Pletcher barn at Churchill Downs as Dreaming of Julia (ranked No. 4 on the "Road to the Kentucky Oaks" Leaderboard), Unlimited Budget (No. 3), Silsita (No. 10) and Princess of Sylmar (No. 7) all worked for the two-time Kentucky Oaks (Grade I) winning trainer.
Churchill Downs Strengthens Security Policies, Expands Screenings for 2013 Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks
Churchill Downs Racetrack ("CDRT") will strengthen security and hospitality policies and expand screenings for patrons, employees and vendors who will enter the track for the 139th runnings of the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum!
Mylute Tunes Up for Derby With Six-Furlong Work; Arkansas Derby Winner Overanalyze Arrives at Churchill Downs
Mylute, runner-up to Revolutionary in the $1 million Louisiana Derby (Grade II), continued his preparations for the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (GI) with a six-furlong breeze in 1:12.20 on Sunday morning at Churchill Downs.
Spiral Winner Black Onyx Back to Work
Black Onyx, 1 ½-length winner of the Spiral (GIII), breezed five furlongs in 1:00.60 on the fast main track at Churchill Downs on Saturday morning in his first major training move since his victory at Turfway Park on March 23.
Safety Concerns Move Churchill Downs to Add Pop Up & Personal Tents to List of Banned Items for Derby, Oaks
Churchill Downs Racetrack has added pop up and other patron tents and metal poles and stakes to its list of items that cannot be carried by patrons into the track on Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks Days.
Kentucky Derby Championship Series Weekly Update
With the First Saturday in May just more than three weeks away, the "Road to the Kentucky Derby Presented by TwinSpires.com" is winding down and Saturday's Toyota Blue Grass (Grade I) at Keeneland and Arkansas Derby (GI) at Oaklawn Park will conclude the Second Leg of the Championship Series.
Tickets on Sale for Dawn at the Downs
"Dawn at the Downs," the popular Louisville tradition that gives visitors an opportunity to enjoy breakfast in Millionaires Row while watching Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks contenders during morning workouts, returns to Churchill Downs on Tuesday, April 30 through Thursday, May 2.
Churchill Downs Announces Changes in Derby and Oaks Bus, Taxi Transportation
Churchill Downs Racetrack ("CDRT"), working with the Louisville Metro Police Department ("LMPD") and other law enforcement and public safety partners, has developed a new plan for taxi cab and bus drop-off and pick-up of Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks Day patrons designed to create a more convenient and effic
Churchill Downs Honors U of L Final Four Basketball Teams With Red Twin Spires
Churchill Downs is in the spirit for this weekend's Final Four appearances by the University of Louisville's men's and women's basketball teams. The legendary racetrack's iconic Twin Spires that sit atop the grandstand will be cast in a red glow throughout the remainder of the NCAA tournaments to honor its U of L neighbors.
Florida Derby, Louisiana Derby, UAE Derby Kick Off Second Leg of Championship Series
The First Leg of the Championship Series on the "Road to the Kentucky Derby Presented by TwinSpires.com" concluded last weekend and now it's on to the Second Leg, which is composed of the seven most meaningful springboard events in advance of America's greatest race, the Kentucky Derby.
Churchill Downs Simulcasting Shifts Back to Clubhouse on Wednesday, March 27
Simulcast wagering operations at Churchill Downs Racetrack ("CDRT") will shift from their home in the track's new "Parlay" venue back to their former location on the second floor of the track's Clubhouse on Wednesday, March 27. Simulcast wagering will continue in that location through the conclusion of the April 27-June 30 Spring Meet.
Kentucky Derby 139 Trophy Arrives Safely at Churchill Downs
The priceless solid gold trophy that will be presented to the owner of the 3-year-old Thoroughbred that wins the 139th running of the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (Grade I) has arrived safely at Churchill Downs exactly 40 days before the big race on the first Saturday in May.
Black Onyx Heads 13 Late Triple Crown Nominations
The roster of 3-year-old Thoroughbreds eligible for the 2013 Triple Crown has grown to 382 with the addition of 13 late nominations (pending late mail) to the coveted series of American classic races that includes the $2 million-guaranteed Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum!


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Big thanks for Rakujitsu, Oshido and Soma for collecting and entering all this to database.
Also i thank all those people who have sent mising info to be added to website.
I hope they dont mind that I went public with this site.
--- Karu
Ballistic Mystix
- 2012-09-19
- Atys time was last updated in 2012-08-26. This should now be fixed.
- 2011-10-13
- armor added to item gallery
- 2011-10-12
- Updated translations (spanish avaiable), mission mats list
- 2011-09-03
- Added guild icon visualizer
- 2011-08-07
- Fixed wrong image used with "Barrel" stat group
- 2010-11-27
- Changed: Goari, Cuttler, Rendor, Bolobi, Clopper, Kidinak, Kizarak
- 2010-09-17
- Antonni Beni (Yrk corporal) moved to correct place.
- 2010-03-14
- Resource stats should be correct now
- 2010-02-27
- VPS host is having a few problems with the server hardware.
- 2010-02-26
- Official and unofficial links added. If you want to be listed, then use feedback link or use Guild forum.
- 2009-09-10
- Chronicles and some other Ryzom RSS feeds added.
- event
If you interested in event mission resources or want to add missing locations, then use thread in our forum.
Official event tracker is here and our unofficial is located here.
FIX: Fixed error on Shard Progress table. It was using wrong tower count when calculating the average
- 2009-10-10
- Some more mob images updated. Thanks Amnesia for screenshots.
- 2009-10-08
- Website had some small glitches yesterday and today, sorry about that.
- 2009-10-04
- Some mob images updated. Thanks Amnesia for screenshots.
- 2009-06-27
- Website moved. Hopefully everything continues to work correctly.
- 2009-05-22
- bug: fixed dressing room old to new link parser bugs.
if there is still need for old version, then it's under ?p=dressingRoom_old(update 2010-04-06: this is now removed.) - 2009-05-21
- New images in dressing room. If there is any problems, then use the feedback link.
- bug: searching resources on map gave no hits. should be fixed now
- 2009-05-20
- Map displays translated location names now.
- 2009-04-08
- Modified AtysDate script and added support for official server tick API.
- 2009-04-07
- added temple and outpost items to item gallery. those are out of game images, so let me know if there are any mistakes.
- 2009-03-28
- few tweaks to dressing room
- 2009-02-28
- Added better quality images to item gallery.
- 2009-02-14
- Added npc's and Dominant mob's to Silan map. Resources or mission mob locations will not be added. If anyone missed the NPC text where the location was given, go and re-read it on Silan Guide(s) section.
- 2009-02-05
- some of the missing npc's added
- 2009-01-23
- added upcoming patch list to server status page, some mob locations added
- 2009-01-20
- some npc/mob locations added
- 2008-12-21
- some npc/mob locations added and some marker locations updated. around 80 in total.
- 2008-12-18
- Updated DP page and added XP info there too. Using Flot library
- 2008-12-07
- finally got time to fix resources season/grade info. should be better now
- 2008-11-11
- err... so much for testing 'hitrate+' few weeks ago.... it is indeed doubling the guns hpm value and not
just give (max) +13 to hpm. this time i loaded gun with hpm*2 amount of ammo for and it indeed took a
one min to empty it (+- few sec for lag).
Also updated 'Damage per second' page a bit - 2008-10-27
- 7 missing mobs, 22 new locations, 10 corrections to mob database.
- 2008-10-26
- Primitive tribe bosses level/loot and encyclopedia mission name adjustment.
- 2008-10-24
- Added haircuts and tatoos to dressing room. Front/back images and control panel can be moved around (for those who have vertically challenged screens).
- 2008-10-19
- Fight and magic missions added to Silan guide(s). Long missing Cukoo and Yelkoo added.
- 2008-10-07
- Added Silan Guide(s) (craft and harvest for now)
- 2008-10-04
- Finally fixed math bug in dps page that gave wrong numbers for ranged. should be correct now.
- 2008-09-23
- Changed website header, added atys calendar and server status. hopefully didn't break anything.
redirect for domain bmsite.net to ballisticmystix.net is now live. url is preserved, like map link. - 2008-09-20
- Map shows faction gain/loss for mission npcs (mostly for lake region). info is pre faction changes, so may be outdated, will update/verify it when time allows. Keywords updated. use something like "tryker+" or "sacred sap+" (with quotes).
- 2008-09-18
- Website is updated, map got total rewrite. bit more markers visible now.
- 2008-09-15
- Corrections to ranged weapon speeds and pistol damage (no idea if it scales correctly per level now)
- 2007-10-26
- Raided ryzom.raum.com site and added some texts to encyclopedia.
- 2007-10-25
- Added "The Temple of Jena" and "The Sanctuary of Ma-Duk" sections under reference.
- 2007-09-25
- FIX: changed a bit how mob star rating is displayed. for named/boss, value is taken from database. every other mob follows the formula: star=floor((loot_quality+50-region_force)/10); and if star is <=0, it's 1x. Should be accurate enough.
- 2007-09-20
- oops, xp calc did not display xp correctly if skill level was lower than mob level. corrected.
- 2007-09-06
- Some pictures added to image gallery
- 2007-08-31
- UnderSpring/Wasteland resource fields have season info added.
Keywords are not (yet) up-to-date with season/grade info. for example doing search "sup zun -winter" does not yet work.
Keywords are updated. to search grade with season, it's best to group them like zun "sup winter" - 2007-08-28
- BUG: with the DressingRoom scripts rewrite, old links didnt work quite right (displayed heavy helmet when it should not have). it should be fixed now.
- 2007-08-27
- Updated emotes and dressing room images
- 2007-08-02
- Ruins of Silan (official name Lands to Explore heh) area names and spawns are on map.
- 2007-07-06
- Updated live version with my work version. Did fast testing with IE6/IE7/Firefox/Opera/Konqueror, hopefully got rid of all annoying bugs.
- CSS and Javascript is included to main page now. Javascript is also compressed with packer to save some bits.
- Dressing room is generating multi layer gif image for downloading, so it's possible to fix armor part overlaping.
- 2007-07-03
- NPC & Tribe list was buggy. for example all tribes that didnt have alignment/race, got defaulted to kami/fyros. it's fixed now.
- Took the time and messed with XP Calc base xp formula. It's now possible to figure out how much theoretical xp you get from 100 lvl's higher than highest skill used. yay:-) (findings added at the end)
- 2007-06-10
- New Armor gallery and long waited Dressing room are online.
Images are made directly from Ryzom game data using NEL, so if it looks bit different what you see in game, thats why.
All users should be able to login to Ryzom now. even if you were unsubscribed. thread in ryzom forums
Ryturn/Atyscape bookmark for those who dont know yet.
Made some experiments with screenshot/fov settings in cfg file (FoV=75; in cfg file) and here are the results.
Did you know that 11520x6480 (and bigger probably) screenshots are possible ? now you do ;-)
Sadly, Ryzom as we know it ceases to exist very soon, so, Ballistic Mystix thanks the Ryzom community from all shards for the visits ;-) and info submited.
stats for ballisticmystix.net
- 2007 jan-early jun
- around 96k page loads with 4k to 6k unique visits per month. 18k to 25k page loads per month.
- 2007 early jun
- first week in jun, web-hosting was changed to more stable one.
- 2007 early jun-sep
- around 108k page loads with 7k to 8k unique visits per month and around 26k to 30k page loads per month.
(29815 in jul). around 16.4GiB total between Jun 5, 2007 and Oct 1, 2007
+ around 27k javascript search requests in jul-sep timeperiod (map/npc/encyclopedia)
Unique Visitor - Based purely on a cookie, this is the total of the returning visitors and first time visitors - all your visitors. btw, In Dressing room page, if you move your mouse to upper-right corner in black area, you can enable some more options for armors (NPC light/med/heavy and underwear in all race/colors). --
Ballistic Mystix


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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Several riders taking part in a remembrance ride are recovering Saturday, injured in a multi-motorcycle crash on Interstate 95.
Police shutdown lanes of Interstate 95, near the JTB exit, for almost four hours Saturday to investigate the crash and help the four people injured in the crash.
Victims of the crash were taken to several area hospitals.
All were taking part in the remembrance of a Ruff Ryder, who was killed in traffic crash along Fort Caroline Road on November 2nd.
Many of the riders were members of the Ruff Riders organization and were riding for fallen member Ernest "Phantom" Jones. Jones was killed in a traffic crash along Fort Caroline Road on November 2nd. They say they wanted to hold the event for those who couldn't attend the funeral service on Thursday as well as to honor the they was a loyal friend to all. "We wanted to honor him today by making that ride. The community came out today and all the proceeds will go to his family," says fellow rider Brick City.
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Check out other celebrities and media outlets participating in Spirit Day!
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The RNC had its ups and its downs.
I think that no matter what political walk of life you're from, if you saw Condoleezza Rice's speech, you'd have said to yourself, "It's a damn shame this woman isn't a candidate." Agree with her or not, she commanded respect up there. She gave an important speech. And, if you were watching the convention through eyes and ears like mine, you might have also noticed she was talking WAY over the heads of the people at the convention. She was leading an intelligent discussion, making salient points, and the people in that room didn't know what to make of most of it.
But such is the price of responsible, adult politics.
Then, of course, there was the Paul Ryan speech, which was so full of blatant untruths it was practically fact-checked out of existence. And I'm not just talking about your normal news organizations. I mean it was rocked by Fox News' website, which posted: "…to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan's speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. "
I'd like to applaud Fox News for allowing that content to grace the untamed wilderness of their website, as that was certainly not the place I'd expect to locate such a commentary. On the other hand, once I read that, I began to wonder if I should ask my doctor if Thorazine was right for me.
Because the human mind can only handle so much irony in one moment.
Still, whether you consider conventions a parade of liars, or attack dogs, or simply empty, ra-ra rhetoric, the big story was Clint Eastwood's speech. I've never seen anything quite like that. A lot of people will tell you it was bizarre, or batty, or just plain weird. But I totally disagree.
I think Clint Eastwood's speech was the most lucid thing at that convention.
No, really.
Clint Eastwood stood next to an empty chair, and pretended to have a humorous (?) conversation with an invisible Barack Obama.
And you may have found that funny. Or you may have found that odd. Or maybe you found it demeaning to the office of the Presidency. But I found it to be the absolutely perfect representation of the GOP at that time and place; and I don't think it should have been surprising to you at all.
Because the Republicans have been campaigning against a Barack Obama they've created out of thin air for four years now.
They say he's a Fascist. They say he's a Communist. They say he's a Socialist. That he's leading a government take over of health care. That he's raised taxes on the middle class during a recession. That he's going to put your grandma in front of a death panel.
They say his early records are all "sealed." That he's planning a Gestapo-like security force. That there will be a civil war if he's re-elected. That he "raided" Medicare. That he "gutted" welfare of its work requirement. That he told business owners they "didn't build" their businesses.
And they say he wasn't even born in this country.
Put simply, they have been running against a fictional candidate made entirely out of BS and fear for the entirety of his presidency. And these are not typical we said/he said policy lies, either. These are bizarre, hyperbolic, fear-driven, questioning-the-man's-identity-as-an-American and a decent human being type of lies. All of them fact-checked by multiple sources, all of them blatantly untrue.
And what's worse, the GOP electorate are eating it up. They are now literally distrustful of multi-sourced facts, because they believe a second delusion that the media is part of some absolute, left-wing conspiracy to promote the Presidency; which leads me to a serious concern that we have bigger problems in this country besides our political divide. Because it doesn't matter what party you identify with; if you're going to be so purposefully ignorant of fact and truth that you actually manifest your fear into a totally new creation, devoid of reality, that's not politics anymore.
That is approaching the literal definition of insanity.
And so, to me, Clint talking to the Invisible Barack Obama was the most truthful moment of the convention. Clint Eastwood simply brought along a visual aide to match the fictional reputation many people in his party believe in. He finally introduced us to this man that frightens Republicans so very, very much.
And there he was(n't)...
Right there on the stage.
Swearing at them.
In words only they can hear.
So, I say, good for them. At least the delusion is starting to congeal into something representing reality, even if it's not quite tangible yet.
That's therapeutic. That's progress.
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David Kearns
10:43 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Like Obama or not, he hasn't done much during his 4 years. He ran on various promises yet he's out spent every President prior to him, has taken more vacations than any other, yet he claims it's time to roll up our sleeves and get to work, really? He's a one term man.
The original Bill
1:21 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Since 2007, the Senate Historical Office has shown, Democrats have had to end Republican filibusters more than 360 times, a historic record.
Brandon Scullion
5:56 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
This literally made me laugh out loud.
The most vacations ever? We are talking about 1/3 of what GWB had taken.
Just Google it. Look at a half dozen sources or more. Right wing, Centrist, and Left wing sites. Your blatant stating of misinformation will be set straight in a moment or two.
Joe Giles
10:46 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
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James Thomas
10:52 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
"bizarre, hyperbolic, fear-driven, questioning-the-man's-identity-as-an-American and a decent human being type of lies."
Sounds similar to what the Democrats think of and did to President George Bush.
Adam C. Miller
1:06 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Good article Pat. But WE ALL KNOW Obama must go!
Kate Bigam
1:09 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Well-said. Thanks for verbalizing what so many of us thought but could not quite put to words.
martin, bob
2:05 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
The fact that Obama is a Socialist is not that it is INVISIBLE. It is that democrats are either in DENIAL or they all are Socialists from the get go.
James Thomas
12:19 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Martin needs no proof.
Does the term self-evident ring a bell to you?
Ed Fisher
9:12 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Judging from the comments made by the Republican kool-aid drinkers on Patch, it's either mass hysteria or the onset of mental illness. I'm betting on the latter. There clearly is no reasoning with very disturbed individuals.
James Thomas
12:37 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
"There clearly is no reasoning with very disturbed individuals."
Such as Democrats? Sorry Ed, could...not...resist.
The original Bill
9:34 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
All of these right-wing wackos have bought into the lies lock, stock and barrel
martin, bob
10:03 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
All of these LEFT-wing wackos have bought into the lies lock, stock and barrel
The original Bill
1:18 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
So try and prove any of these facts in this blog are wrong.
Joe Giles
6:12 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
Coalition Stages Historic Charlotte March Before DNC Convention
7:42 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
Great blog entry - and somewhere in the comments above you are proven true I am sure...thanks for you blog post.
Theodore Toothman
9:37 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
Well, I wasn't fact-checking at a Hawaii hospital in 1961, but I do know who the first 'birther' was...Barack Obama. His author's biography, left out there for many years, clearly stated "born in Kenya". I have seen numerous videos, where he seems to agree to that. One was years ago, while still a community organizer in Chicago, when an interviewer told him that being foreign born he could never be president. He replied "I'm running for Senator, not president." Why did he not challenge the interviewer's assertion that he was not born in America?
The original Bill
1:16 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Got any proof? I thought not. This is so old and has been proven false, but if that's all you have left to hold on to be my guest. The fact of the matter is he is a U.S. citizen.
11:50 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
Clint Eastwood's latest 12 minute short film: The Old Man and the Seat
James Thomas
12:40 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
I though Democrats were supposed to support the arts and revere the artist.
8:23 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
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Patrick Giusto
4:09 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Thanks for reading. And-- to those who commented: did you know other people are blogging about what they read here (see below)?
10:07 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Wow!! That is all I can say. That was one of the most ignorant opinionated commentaries I have read in a long time. None of your assertions was backed with facts. The simple fact that you thought that the crazy old senile Clint Eastwood somehow satirically represented the Republican party proves your ignorance and desperation. If you have not checked - your "God" Obama's approval rating is historically low for an incumbent president and his economic record is dismal at best. If it was not for entitle oriented voters and young ignorant college students - he would not even be close to being re-elected. That really portrays how sad our voting electorate is. If he cannot win this election with promising to give "free" entitlements to each political interest group he has been patronizing - it will be a miracle. Unfortunately, as our country continues to be populated with more irresponsible and lesser educated voting electorates - the better positioned Obama oriented politicians will become.
11:37 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Wow Patrick...politicians that are lying, that's some real insightful news. Yes, that's what both sides do, not just the GOP. In case you missed it, check out Factcheck.org on the Castro/Clinton lie fest...it made Ryan look like the Pope. Yes, I'm afraid they both lie constantly, so how do we decide who to vote for? It's easy, if you think America is doing better than 4 yrs ago and Obama is on the right track, vote for him.
But, if you think we're going in the wrong direction, $16 trillion in debt, 8%+ unemployment, socialized medicine and class warfare, then vote for Romney. See, it's just that easy.
Patrick Giusto
6:59 am on Friday, September 7, 2012
I obviously wrote that before the DNC started-- but I would argue that neither Castro (although he did get raked over the coals a little) nor Clinton (whose fact-checked statements were mostly found as true) made quite the spectacle of lying that Ryan made.
But all of that's sort of irrelevant to the blog. I agree: politicians from all walks of life stretch the truth and spin it how they see it. You're right. That's not news.
But if you pay attention to the theme of this piece, and the statement I made partially bold, my argument is that they are lying about his identity. They are labeling him conceptually as a monster: "He's a FASCIST UN-AMERICAN who will put your grandmother in front of a DEATH PANEL and there will be a CIVIL WAR if he is re-elected." That's an abnormal hyperbolic attack, politically speaking; and the GOP now has a mobilized grassroots arm of their party intent on spreading this message wide as a central argument against him. That is unique to this President.
And, to your other point, we're obviously doing better than we were 4 years ago. If you don't agree with pursuing his vision, that's understandable. But I think you're going to have a tough political argument to make if you think the country was better off in 2008 than it is today.
Sammi McCloud
10:25 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Vote out the incumbent! That's the only thing that will help ANYTHING. ALL of the incumbents... not just the president. ALL OF THEM!
Patrick Giusto
6:11 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
You DO realize how paradoxical, and borderline hypocritical, that statement is, right?
Let me see if I understand you: You want to vote out all incumbents so you can change the government by bringing in fresh, Washington outsiders with new ideas...
...yet you also want to vote out the incumbent President after his first term-- a guy who ran on a campaign of being a Washington outsider who would change things with new ideas?
Boy, the turnover in your government is pretty quick! I would imagine that, under your logic, everyone would get voted out after one term for being a disappointment. Everyone sucks for four to six years, and then they're gone.


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Exactly, I just wanted to bring more exposure to the competition, not my fault they don't listen. Only 2 people I showed links too voted, I think it was just ms infante and donald. If so, Those votes can be DQ'd
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SHX showing people this thread and telling them to vote for whoever they thought was best is waaaay better than how tie sent out messages to a ton of people saying to vote for him lol. But, it doesnt help SHX's cause since he went on an ego trip.
Battle 1: SHX
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damn, I got ass raped lol, good luck to SHX and LTB
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During the install I have "Winzip only supports the 16-bit version of ARJ... "(see here bellow image)
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If i unsinatll by the command C:\Program Files\WinZip\WINZIP32.EXE /uninstall, it start uninstalling, then i get the message "Cannot uninstall..." (see here bellow image)
Is there any how to uninstall winzip 11.1 properly?
I notice that when i normal install (NOT silent) winzip, i can unninstall it via [Control Pane/Add Remove] and/or WINZIP32.EXE /uninstall.
I do appreciate any help


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Lemongrass Cafe
Lemongrass Café does not waste frills on décor but still offers a comfortable and relaxing atmosphere where the focus is on what they do best – serving up traditionally good Vietnamese food.
10417 51 Avenue Nw, Edmonton, AB, T6H 0K4
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Come and taste the sweet, scorching cuisine combining Chinese, Indian, Indonesian and Thai traditions.
6004 104 Street NW, Edmonton, AB, T6H 2K3
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Karim Rashid has designed a concept Komb House in Cairo Egypt with spacious 482 sqm for Tarek Nour Communication. Komb House is an ideal shelter that used technology to make traditions, customs and a sense of family or community.
Shell house flippers were prepared by repetition of reclaimed wood. Each set in a slightly different profile to the next making quality, dynamic fluid both outside and inside the house wall. Because the angles and depth, the fins make a play on privacy. Interior of the house consists of four rooms that reflect our core activities: play, eat, sleep and cleanse.
The centre room, inspired by Islamic terrace, features an oasis with skylights and plunge pool center. Ecological ideas entered into the house, such as solar water heating panels, energy efficient appliances, reuse of pluvial and grey water, low energy LED lighting and raised radiant flooring. The house can be easily dismantled and materials such as wood, metal, glass, and solar panels can be reused. [Via]


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The UK market is modestly higher in afternoon trading Tuesday, after data showed an unexpected improvement in consumer morale in Europe's largest economy, amid concerns that the meeting of European leaders in Brussels later in the week may not produce any strategy to contain the debt crisis in the region.
Demand for Spanish short-term debt declined on Tuesday, while the country's borrowing costs continued to climb at an auction. The Spanish Treasury raised 3.08 billion euros from the sale of its 3- and 6-month bills. The target set for the auction was between 2 billion euros and 3 billion euros.
The auction came a day after Moody's Investors Service downgraded the long-term debt and deposit ratings for 28 of the 33 rated Spanish banks and two issuer ratings, citing the reduced creditworthiness of the Spanish sovereign, and the expectation that the banks' exposures to commercial real estate would likely cause higher losses.
Italy also saw its borrowing costs climb to the highest level since December at a short-term debt auction, reflecting doubts among investors about the outcome of the upcoming European summit.
The Euro Stoxx 50 index of eurozone bluechip stocks is adding 0.25 percent, while the Stoxx Europe 50 index, which includes some major U.K. companies, is gaining 0.41 percent.
The FTSE 100 index is gaining 0.19 percent.
Among miners, Anglo American is up 1.1 percent and Rio Tinto is gaining 1.2 percent. Kazakhmys is rising 2.1 percent.
Chemicals firm Croda International is gaining around 3 percent, reportedly on a broker upgrade.
Public transport operator Stagecoach Group reported a higher profit for fiscal year 2012. The stock is up 5.6 percent.
Ocado is declining close to 20 percent. The online supermarket said its third quarter is particularly hard to forecast due to some disruption from the Jubilee events.
Royal Bank of Scotland is declining 3.3 percent. Barclays and Lloyds Banking are losing moderately.
Serco Group is falling 3.5 percent after issuing a trading statement.
Elsewhere in Europe, the German DAX is rising 0.08 percent and the French CAC 40 is adding 0.05 percent. However, Switzerland's SMI is falling 0.03 percent.
In economic news, German consumer morale is set to improve in July as rising income expectations outweighed concerns over escalating tensions in Eurozone, the latest survey results from the market research group GfK showed.
Uncertainty surrounding the Greek elections and the Spanish banking rescue at the time of the survey, nonetheless, dampened Germans' economic expectations in June to a 6-month low.
Across Asia/Pacific, markets fell broadly as concerns persisted about the EU summit. Australia's All Ordinaries fell 0.4 percent, China's Shanghai Composite Index edged down 0.1 percent and Japan's Nikkei 225 lost 0.81 percent. However, Hong Kong's Hang Seng added 0.5 percent.
In the U.S., futures point to a higher open on Wall Street. In the previous session, lingering concerns about the ongoing European debt crisis weighed on the markets. The Dow fell 1.1 percent, the Nasdaq tumbled 2 percent and the S&P 500 slid 1.6 percent.
In the commodity space, crude for August delivery is rising $0.09 to $79.30 per barrel while August gold is falling $3.0 to $1585.4 a troy ounce.
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Our heavy-duty Large Rock Polisher with rubber tumbling barrel is powered by an electric motor that's safely enclosed inside the set's aluminum housing. The barrel holds up to 3 lbs. (max.) and comes with 3/4 lb. bag of assorted rocks to polish, polishing grit in 4 grades and jewelry findings. Small Rock Polisher has a 2-lb. capacity. Family activity with adult supervision.Rock on with Extra Polishing Grit (4 grades, 12 oz. total). Keep rocking with Extra Unpolished Rocks (2 lbs.) Size 8-3/4"W x 7-1/2"L
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By Leigh
from North Carolina
About Me Parent Of Two Or More Children
Comments about HearthSong Rock Tumbler:
Perfect for the kids to polish their treasures! Good value, lesser models just won't do the job like this one.
(3 of 3 customers found this review helpful)
Rock loving 9-yr-old LOVES it!
By Unique gift seeker
from Kansas City, MO
About Me Collector, Education Oriented, Parent Of Two Or More Children, Stay At Home Parent
My son enjoyed having his rock collection polished! I wasn't aware that it must run continuously for about a month. Kinda noisy at night, but otherwise it was really fun!
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By Becky
from New Jersey
About Me Grandparent
I bought this for an 8 year old for his Birthday. This is an authentic rock polisher! It teaches that anything worth doing is worth waiting for! It does run 24/7 for several weeks and does make a little noise, but we are having a great deal of fun with it!