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Police: Bullying Not A Factor In Perry Hall High Shooting
Police revealed new details in the Monday morning shooting at Perry Hall High School.
UPDATE (1:20 p.m., Aug. 28)—Investigators do not believe bullying was a factor in the Monday morning shooting at Perry Hall High School, according to police.
Baltimore County Police Chief Jim Johnson, speaking at a news conference in Dundalk late Tuesday morning, dispelled rumors that bullying allegedly led Robert Gladden Jr., 15, to open fire on his classmates in the school cafeteria.
"We are aware of many reports that the suspect was a victim of bullying. We cannot confirm those reports. Gladden's conversations with investigators have not indicated bullying was an issue in this case. The investigation is ongoing," Johnson said.
Johnson told reporters that Gladden was cooperating with investigators.
Officials used the conference to reveal a detailed account of the shooting, as well as information about Gladden's family members. County Executive Kevin Kamenetz and Superintendent S. Dallas Dance also answered questions from reporters.
The police chief explained that although there was an incident in the cafeteria before the shooting, where an object—either food or paper—was thrown toward a table where Gladden sat, police do not believe that incident set off the shooting. The students involved had also already left the cafeteria when the shooting began.
Find copies of Gladden's booking photo and charging documents attached to this article.
Johnson said that Gladden arrived at the school on a bus and brought with him a backpack containing a broken down shotgun that could be reassembled. The backpack also carried a bottle of vodka.
Gladden obtained the shotgun, an early-model Westfield double-barrel of legal length, from the home of his father in the Hawthorne neighborhood in Middle River, according to police. No charges have been filed at this time, related to Gladden's access to the shotgun, Johnson said.
While investigators have learned that Gladden, a returning sophomore, was able to have several sips of alcohol leading up to the shooting, they do not believe that he was impaired or intoxicated.
Gladden began his first day of the new school year normally, attending his first and second period classes and heading to lunch during third period, around 10:30 in the morning. Before entering the cafeteria, Gladden stashed a bag containing the shotgun in a nearby bathroom.
Police emphasized that the actions of fellow students in the cafeteria, including reports of something being thrown in Gladden's direction, did not directly lead to the shooting.
In fact, Johnson said, after speaking with Gladden, investigators do not believe that bullying was a factor leading up to the shooting at all.
Around 10:45 a.m., Johnson said that Gladden went to the bathroom, reassembled the approximately 34-inch weapon and concealed it inside his clothes.
He walked back into the cafeteria and drew the weapon, police said. Perry Hall guidance counselor Jesse Wasmer then rushed toward him, but before Wasmer could subdue him, Gladden fired one round, striking 17-year-old Daniel Borowy, Johnson said.
Other Perry Hall staffers then assisted Wasmer, but Gladden was able to fire another shot, which did not strike anyone, Johnson said. A School Resource Officer then arrested Gladden.
Following Gladden's arrest, police searched the Kingsville home of the boy's mother and arrested his stepfather. Andrew E. Piper of the 8500 block of Bradshaw Road in Kingsville was charged with marijuana possession and illegal firearm possession. He is currently free on $500,000 bail. A preliminary hearing in the case is scheduled for Dec. 3.
Following the press conference, police released the charging documents and Robert Gladden's booking photo to the media.
2:23 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
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Maryjane Oelke
1:01 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Even though bullying has been ruled out, people should be aware that bullying is a crime, called "discriminatory harassment". Victims of bullying should report it to the police and if the police refuse to write a report, they should contact the US Department of Justice. My son was forced to have his head put in a toilet while a student at a Perry Hall school, so parents need to stay wary. Of course nothing justifies such violance,,,just saying.
1:05 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
That's messed up. This is partially why my kid will be enrolling in martial arts next year (at 6).
1:15 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
First of all, let me say that I am sorry that your son had to go through that. Unfortunately, your information is not correct. Bullying is not a crime on the books in Maryland or federally. What your son went through is Assault, which is a matter for the police to resolve.
1:20 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
That's all fine and dandy, Maryjane but has nothing to do with this case. An innocent boy was shot, period. The shooter needs to be held accountable for his actions. His parents too, in my opinion.
4:17 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
It is troublesome that there is so much cruelty today ,especially among kids toward their peers. Years ago (fifties and sixties), kids didn't abuse each other to the degree that I see today. Even in the seventies, when I taught school, I never saw this type of thing going on. Parents need to teach their kids kindness at an early age. Maybe that's what's lacking today. Obviously, this kid was hurting very badly with personal issues, and the bullying may have caused him to snap.
12:16 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
This is why God and daily prayers should be brought back into public schools. Kids need to learn to respect one another and pray. But the praying only happens when someone dies as you can see. Instead of handing out free condoms and teaching sex ed we can hand out bibles and have lessons on why Jesus is good for you. It will never get done because America does not want to offend anyone else. So there will be more and more shootings in this country. Looks like they are just getting started.
8:43 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
In response to Gabe's suggestion, it's not because America doesn't want to offend anyone. It's because this country was founded on the principle of religious freedom, and institutionalized religion in public schools is the opposite of freedom. Taking away religious freedom will most certainly not change the amount of violence in schools. Comments like yours are why non-Christians think ALL of us are closed-minded people who want to force our beliefs on everyone around us.
You can be a good person and not be religious. You can learn morals without church. And you don't have to believe in Yahweh or Jesus to know that killing or hurting another person is wrong. The problem in our country is not a lack of church, but a lack of personal accountability for our own actions and what we can do together as a community, regardless of our individual beliefs.
Mike Base
1:15 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Actually, the overcrowding situation at the Perry Hall High School has been an issue. Racial issues, as well as bullying have been factors for over 10 years I know of. I have many, many parents of children who have filed complaints and concerns of violence, drugs, and threats by individuals to other students. Unfortunately, these types of occurences do reflect on the staff, and the constant threat teachers are faced with every day. Our children are not safe, forcing some of us to put our children in more controlled environments, such as private schools. There should have been another High School built, instead of a new library on Honeygo to accomodate the influx of homes, and new families. Again, its sad an innocent child, a special needs student at that, and his family are pating the price. The family has already paid the highest price. Get involved and pressure the school administration, and talk to your children. Someone saw something before it happenned and didn't say anything. SPEAK UP!!! A parent.
3:51 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I agree with the overcrowding of the school. It is definitely an major issue and has been for a VERY long time. But I disagree with the bullying and racial issues comment. I graduated from PHHS 9 years ago and it most definitely was NOT like that at all. I had some of the best times of my life at that school. I'm sure I had come across a "bully" or two in my 4 years there, but really, what school doesnt have bullies? I'm not saying that bullying is right (because it is not), I'm just saying that it was a lot different at Perry Hall when I went there. And if you want blame anyone, blame the parents of the bullies. Teach your children...no wait, SHOW your children how to be kind and respectful and they will grow up to BE kind and respectful.
4:01 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
You can thank poor zoning, families that sold off family farms to developers and lack of foresight for the overcrowding at the school. At the same time, disproportionate funding has been sent to low achieving minority schools filling them with technology, extra staff and new facilities while trailers were parked at Perry Hall.
3:14 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
I have been a volunteer for what will be my 6th year this year and the teachers and staff are wonderful. I have seen a few times were students behavior was awful and many bars of soap could not clean the language they were using. When their parents picked them up I learned were their behavior came from, their parents. Yes the school is overcrowded. As far as the racial & bullying issues I have seen staff separate students and talk to them and volunteer parents have as well. ALL schools have these issues, it's how they are handled that counts. I am proud to say my child graduated from Perry Hall High School, he got an excellant education. Stop blaming the school, point the finger were it belongs=that parents.
Was very happy to hear Daniel is doing better, he has a long road ahead of him but as long as he is doing better each day things are going well. I hope Bobby pays for what he did to Daniel, his family, all the students, staff, parents, and friends of P.H.H.S.
12:38 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
ITS THE PARENTS FAULT. You want to fix your kids, take them to church EVERY Sunday. Let them learn about there lord in Sunday School. Have them read a bible daily. If all the kids did this then they would respect each other like the kids in my daughters Christian school. I took her out after Pre-k because i dont want her to have any part of this violence. America does not want to offend anyone else's religion so no religion is allowed. Well happy for the government because now more situations like this will arise. A real parent would spend money to give there kids the best education but most think they care but they don't so they buy them nice shoes, clothes so they can look sexy and have babies at 16 etc. They rather drive a nice car then give there child an education so dont say i dont have money too do this. Sell one of your 3 cars and you can. This is for all the parents and this probably applies to 90 percent of them.
Joyce Kahl Bowers
8:58 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
To JD1 - What does 'families selling off the family farm' have to do with the fact that an innocent boy was shot by the hand of a troubled youth? Someday I will beselling off the family farm in Perry Hall and although it may create more homes in the area it certainly won't be the cause of such tragedies.
10:28 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Follow the thread Joyce - i replied to a comment about overcrowding. PHHS has unsafe conditions because it is horribly overcrowded. This has occurred because areas that were once sparsely populated agricultural areas have become overdeveloped. Glad you were lucky enough to inherit property - do the responsible thing and don't destroy more agricultural land. Hopefully BCPS will build a new HS to ease the unsafe and crowded conditions at the school.
Daya Chaney-Webb
3:49 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
So right on, Mike. Managing a high school population like this obviously requires strong violence prevention efforts -- none of which have ongoingly been implemented. Packing 'em in and then having no student support programs is dangerous.
Sherri H
2:22 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
The issues that face kids at Perry Hall are no different than issues facing students across the country. Its time for parents to look at themselves and be accountable for the ways their children are being raised. Our kids are a direct reflection of us. No one knows what this boy dealt with on a daily basis. It doesnt excuse his behavior though. His parents should be ashamed of themselves.
2:35 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
You used a word we seldom hear any longer. One I heard lots as a kid. SHAME!
Remember the phrase "Shame on you!" Shame seems to be a forgotten term and some say it has been removed so as to not hurt children's self esteem. Self esteem is earned and gained by success in something, it is not something you are born with.
7:03 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Agreed Joe. Shame is something that doesn't exist. One reason is that respect doesn't exist either. When a child doesn't respect his parents, respect his teachers, respect his friends and elders, there is no way for him to have shame. By the way I see some kids dress and act, they don't even respect themselves.
Leslie Schildgen
2:23 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I went to an overcrowded all black school with bullying and reverse discrimination in the 70s during the desegregation period. We never had any gun problems in school then. What's changed that has made children take guns to school AND use them. Is it drugs, TV, what the heck is goin' on?
2:32 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Schools USED to have shooting clubs in different states in the 60's and 70's. Kids would bring their 22 LR rifles to school. Never had these problems then.
Spring Heeled Jack
5:23 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Joe, your right! When I was at Loch Raven High in the early 80's we had a shooting club. Consisting of target shooting and clay pidgeon shooting.
8:31 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Leslie, I too was sent to an overcrowded black school during desegregation in the 70's, on just my second day of school I had a gun put to my forehead by another student. I guess it all comes down to just how bad the school is, this was just 9th grade. A" bad seed" is just A" bad seed" !
Noelle Finkle
2:31 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Um bullying hasent been rule
out people,its just a cover up so people don't panic.I mean really doesn't anyone have any common sense anymore? Come on!
3:21 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Noelle it wasn't about bullying, "Bullying not a factor" Bobby planned this, he took the gun to school went to his first two classes and then hid the bag in the bathroom that he had the gun and vodka in, left the cafeteria assembled the gun and shot off the gun shotting and innocent boy. Bullying is the excuse not the reason.
Daya Chaney-Webb
4:06 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Very true, Noelle. Schools have now began to be held accountable for incidence rates on bullying and school violence. Other counties in Maryland have implemented programs like "Building Bridges" to prevent and reduce the prevalence of this problem.
While the Office of Special Education has not responded to the very real problem that inclusion of special education students is not happening appropriately in our Bmore County schools -- without planning and school wide awareness programs such as Building Bridges or even appropriate training of staff on special needs -- the county does not standardize any approach to promoting positive relationships between students at all. So, no, they aren't about to admit it was a case of bullying. PHMS could very easy be liable (according to school policy) for failing to respond to any history of bullying of either party involved in this shooting.
Jen Greives
2:50 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
It's kids being raised from infancy by the child care industry instead of parents. A steady stream of strangers raising a child is less likely to impart empathy, social skills, and morals. We've been a 2-income family country for decades and the lack of familial bonding shows up every day on the news.
3:00 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
It is well documented that most of those in prison were fatherless. We see it in major cities daily. 74% of all black babies born without fathers in their lives. Tens of thousands have been through day care of one kind or another and they never turned to violence like this kid did. There is validity in what you say but not the only reason.
working mom
5:48 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Wait, so because my children go to daycare, that means they're going to bring a gun to school???? Just because parents work, whether by choice or necessity, doesn't mean that someone else is raising their child. Sure, many parents probably rely on daycare to raise their kids. However, others, such as myself. sacrifice and parent and work. My children are more polite and kind than many who have moms/dads who don't work. Don't make blanket statements or place blame on one sector of the population unless you can back it up.
Amy L
2:57 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
It is God. God is what is missing. Everyone wants to do whatever they want, and not answer to anyone. Morals are gone from society, at the request of its members. If you have nothing to live for, and no one to answer to, what do you expect people will do?
3:00 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Just where was he? Sleeping? Not paying attention? Impotent to stop the shooting? All of the above?
Jen Greives
3:06 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
So you believe that every atheist will become a killer? I don't need threats of a horrific afterlife to keep me from doing terrible things. I am a good, kind, generous, compassionate person and I am an atheist.
Claire Gawryck
4:39 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I'm sorry but you're wrong. Perry Hall may be a public school, but it contained some of the most religious people I know. The high school is very accommodating of all students and their religions. There's the 180 Club that is a Christian organization that organizes events such as "See You at the Pole" where students pray around the flag pole. The school allows students to wear religious garments and headwear, and also allows students who are fasting to spend their lunch periods in the library. Instead of a lack of religion, there's an abundance. That's the wonderful thing about Perry Hall-- it's so diverse. And yes, there are kids who are atheist, agnostic, and unsure of their beliefs, but that doesn't make them bad people. They coexist peacefully with the religious students in classes, clubs, and sports. As a member of the most recent graduating class at Perry Hall, I personally know that while the National Honor Society collected gently used coats for those in need in the winter time and while the NHS raised money in the Link Sale for Johns Hopkins Children Center, there were students who identified with religion and who did not. For a majority of the students, the morals are very strong at Perry Hall. The students live for good grades, sports, the future, their friends, and their families. Robert Gladden does not reflect the students or community of Perry Hall.
2:58 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I think that lack of parenting is the biggest issue today. It is effecting all aspects of childhood thru adulthood. The above comment about an overcrowded all black school hits the mark. Lack of a cohesive family unit, no morals, no guidance, violent video games, lure of drugs, too much blaming the other guy, no restrictions, business conducted thru the computer with no personal contact, no social graces or respect for life....and the list goes on and on. There should be a test and license before anyone has a child. I know this is hypothetical, but as a former educator, I speak from experience...it starts in the home....and we always said "the apple does not fall far from the tree." Having a child is a conscience choice...parents need to step up. Children are not baby dolls to be played with and then left on a shelf.
3:13 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Definitely agree with parenting (lack thereof) being the biggest issue today.
It's hard work to do it right, but the proof is in the end product, your children.
4:05 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Definitely agree - and when families do get time they cart their kids off to organized sports and other activities instead of spending quality time together talking and forging relationships. Parents need to slow down, listen to their kids and stop thinking that big houses, multiple cars, flat screen TV's and travel teams are the answer.
3:30 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
To JD1 my child was very active in school and had a job and he enjoyed himself. When our schedules worked out, at least once a week, the whold family sat down and had dinner together and talked about anything they wanted. As far as the activities there are a lot of parents who volunteer their time to help, they are at the games or events. We did and still do spend quality time together and a lot of other famlies do too so please don't put them down. Thank you
Jenny Bahr
3:00 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
@mike base,THANK YOU!well said! Stop building new homes until we have enough schools to handle the influx of children. 2300 students is ridiculous!
Linda Dillard
3:14 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Why didn't his parents see the disgusting facebook account he had???
Donna Wilson Miller
8:44 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I looked at the Facebook page and found nothing disgusting about it. His comments and pictures were not something that would have caused me concern if it had been my son who posted them -- it is only now in hindsight, that people will look at his FB page and say, "Oh, his parents should've known he was troubled." COME ON!! Just because someone enjoys a certain type of music or style of dress does not mean that person is heading down a path of destruction. There are people in this world -- like it or not -- who will do horrible, unspeakable things and there is no way any of us can prepare for or prevent such things from happening. Yes, it saddens me deeply, but I am realistic.
8:42 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
So you don't think having the Columbine killers listed as "Inspirational People" is disgusting? Because I certainly do.
3:35 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Donna please don't think I'm judging you because I am not. I looked at his facebook page and it made me sick. There were a lot of signs before his final post that warned you something was very wrong. I don't know if his parents checked his fb page but they should have although from what I have heard about them they are not good examples. What about his 14 friends he had, as of noon monday he had 14 friends, they could have said something.
5:48 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Donna, like Ashley said, it wasn't the type of music or the pictures that were the disturbing part. It was the status update and the fact that the Columbine killers were listed as inspirational people. I realize that everyone has different opinions and that we all have different people we look up to but really? I personally look up to my parents, celebrities who make a positive impact, and people that I witness in my life doing good things, not people who murder tons of people for no reason...
Leslie Schildgen
3:14 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
You know what, Jen I have to agree with your comments. Kids being raised by the child care industry was not around in the 60s and 70s. Dad went to work and Mom raised the kids. Great point.
3:53 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Those days ended with corporate greed and "Trickle Down" economics implemented in the 80's. Of course, hindsight is 20/20, but it doesn't seem to stop some folks from willfully ignoring these facts.
The only thing that's trickled down is the quality of our society. Yet, so many want to keep it going, in the name of 'liberty'.
4:10 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Tim, you do not like "liberty"? How much are you willing to give up?
4:14 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Many mothers worked in the 50's and further back. They had to as well to do what they wanted for their families. I had neighbors who were far form overly comfortable economically who had a older black lady named Mildred who was a charm to be around and she watched not only my neighbor's 3 kids but me and my brother too. She was a dear lady. My neighbors mom was an RN since the war. Kept on working with short stints home with the kids when they were born just as today. More moms worked then than you may think.
Concerned Mom
3:22 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Jen- do you have any statistics to back up that claim? I doubt it. Parents feel guilty enough having to put their children in daycare and they don't need people like you to make them feel worse. Your comment was very judgmental and elitist. Not everyone is lucky enough to have the option of staying home with their children. And on the other side of it, I know many, many miserable stay at home moms and that can't be healthy for children to experience. There are plenty of high quality day care option for parents.
Raise your kids
3:48 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Most people put their kids in daycare as a choice, not a necessity. Give up the new car every 3 years, the 5 cell phones, cable tv with movie channels, and eating out 4+ times a week. My wife and I managed on my $38K salary. One landline phone. Antenna on the roof, and lots of home cooking...PLUS one parent home at all times to raise the children.
4:02 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Raise-Kids: Actually, it's interesting, because I find that more people stay at home (wife or husband) due to their education or lack of ability to make enough money to really reconcile the tradeoff. There's no point fiscally, for example, to put two kids in daycare if the parent's job isn't going to make appreciably more then the expense itself.
The other thing to consider is this: Does the wife (in this case) WANT to stay home and raise children?
I hate to say it, but that's not every woman's only aspiration in life. Maybe it was your wife's, and God bless her if it is!
However, long gone are the days of the woman barefoot, pregnant, in the kitchen doing all the housework. Gender roles are largely gone, and good riddance (as much as I enjoy cranking out the stereotypes on my wife just to get a rise out of her, sometimes :) ).
I try and work with my wife as a TEAM. Some days I'm completely incapable/out of patience and need a couple hour break - and she takes over. On rare occasion the opposite is true. We work together.
I do commend your effort on parenting, and I definitely agree with the general feel of your post.
4:16 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Raise your kids, you really need to give us a time frame of when you did that. Not recently I'm sure. That is barely enough for one person now.
4:20 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Tim, continuing to work after a short leave if that's possible, even if the salary is equal to day care costs, could be a better plan since to continue to work the salary is more likely to increase in a shorter time frame and then the trade off is not as bad. Going back to work after a few years off is a hard thing to do. And you are staring from scratch effectively.
Nicolette Archambault Carpenter
4:33 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
@Raise your kids...there is one thing that you are right about, SOME people put their children in daycare as a choice. You are ignorant to assume that 2 income households waste their money on the things you listed. What happens to your family if something happens to you or you lose your job? Is it safe to assume that you will then be relying on us working moms to pay your bills? You are absolutely wrong to pass judgment and ignorant to believe that working parents build problem children. What about single parents who have no choice? I am completely appalled to see people like you using a terrible situation like this to pass judgment against other parents. ALL parents, working or not, need to be involved in their children's lives and ALL parents need to make sure to teach their children how to be good, productive, members of society. ALL parents need to raise their children to the best of their ability and NO parents get to decide how others do that. Don't forget, this is a High School aged child, in school 7 hours a day. Why are women who CHOOSE to stay home all day while their children are in school and their husband is struggling to pay their bills ANY better than those moms that CHOOSE to work while their children are in school? My heart goes out to everyone involved in this terrible incident and I am so sorry that people like you and Jen are using this tragic incident to pass judgment and voice your ridiculous opinions against other GREAT parents.
Raise your kids
4:56 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
@Joe...1995 until now. Actually, I would have preferred to have stayed at home but I earned more money so I had to work. @ Nicolette...wow, you are touchy. Obviously there are cases where both parents have to work, or a single parent. Duh. And you are being ignorant by assuming that I wanted my wife to stay home. I wanted that but my salary was more than hers. Simply economic decision. If she made more I would have GLADLY stayed at home. I'm not using this situation for anything, I was responding to a comment.
3:33 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Why the focus on race? Have you all seen the pictures? Both the shooter and the victim were white! This issue has less to do with race and more to do with parents sitting home and smoking weed (thus the arrest) rather than being in tune with their teenaged son's academics, interests, and activities.
3:33 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
@ Jen and Leslie I disagree with you both. Jen your opinion is ignorant and idiotic. Just because a child goes to daycare does not make them morally corrupt. A child can grow up lacking morals and values in ANY family situation. There are plenty of kids that grew up in the 60s and 70s that have committed far worse crimes.
3:55 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
What happened to the boy that was shot? Does anyone one here care about that, or just like to hear yourselves talk?
4:03 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Has it occurred to you that perhaps the article would be updated when something was known?
3:46 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Hi Penny, there is two facebook pages that they post updates as much as they can. (Prayers for Daniel & Laddy Gaga Please Visit Daniel) Daniel is able to move his fingers and toes and even sat up a little bit today. He had another surgery today but no update on that. It is possible he will need another surgery. The fb pages are open for the public to see.
Leslie Schildgen
4:08 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Penny, yeah, we just like to hear ourselves talk just like you for posting this comment. Anyway. . . Loretta didn't mean to insinuate all daycare children are morally corrupt. Just simply making a comparison from schools in the 70s and schools today that could possibly be one of the reasons for guns being used in school.
4:21 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
This is highly offensive. Daycare kids are not "one of the reasons for guns being used in school." Give me a break.
Leslie Schildgen
4:08 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Michele, I totally agree with your comment.
Darryl France
4:15 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Some kids are just bad no matter what you do. Everyone wants to point to this stat, stay home with your kids, don't let them watch tv, no organized sports but sometimes it just doesn't matter. I had a friend who had it all, middle class upbringing in a nice neighborhood with both parents present and all he could do in his spare time was find trouble. They sent him to military school, got counseling, everything but tie him to the radiator and nothing helped. Today he's dead from a gun shot. I could NEVER blame his parents because they did everything they could. Maybe we should just tie all our kids up to radiators and homeschool them.
Perry Hall Parent
4:16 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
The shooter is 15...old enough to know right from wrong despite whether he was ever in day care, or how overcrowded a school is, or whether he was bullied or any other excuse people are giving. He lived with a step father who was arrested on drug and weapon charges. He learned this at home and made a choice to commit a crime
Penelope Patch
12:11 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I read about that and am so sad to hear. This case reminds me of a recent case in Harford County where the youth shot and killed his father and tried to hide the body. This child was consistently beaten and abused by his father and there were significant warning signs. He came to school in tatters and would run away from home. Neighbors were witness to yelling and gunshots heard. The police were there repeatedly. It's a shame that this youth was failed on so many levels and now sits in a jail charged as an adult with murder. Sounds like with the Perry Hall youth, there were serious issues going on as well. I don't know the details and maybe we'll never fully know what happened in this child's life to lead him to such tragic behavior. I hope that somehow his life can be turned around. My thoughts and prayers are with the child who was shot. By the way, I hope that Lady Gaga comes to see him.
Laura D. Vendetti
4:18 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I have worked with children for 21 years. I now work at a high school. I see what appears to be parenting issues. Its very sad what I have seen.
4:19 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
So many of these comments are completely idiotic. Daycare kids are the problem with society? Come on, now. I am used to seeing more intelligent, thought out comments from Patch readers. My son attends a wonderful school at two years old (and is not being raised by strangers, for goodness sake). He loves being at school more than being at home!
Penelope Patch
12:16 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Actually, data shows that children who attend educationally-based daycare and other early childhood situations fare better (than their stay-at-home peers) when they start school. They have learned how to relate to peers, get along and take turns, as well as sit and focus on tasks. I am so glad that your son loves his school. Way to go, Christine!
4:21 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I strongly agree with what Penny said because that poor boy is in shock trauma with his family and friends prayin that he makes it.. I would like to let his family know that they are in my prayers.
4:22 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I have read all of the post and some of them have valid points. My question is how many of you would change your opinions if Daniel was your child? For that matter how would you handle the situation is Bobby was your son?
4:36 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Hey Tim, first Of all if you click on his name, Daniel that is, it does take you to the story about how he is in critical condition and stil in shock trauma. My simple point was basically shut up, and stop fighting w/ each other on a board that should be praying for the family of the child who was injured, all the families this has impacted.
4:40 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
and my point is, who died and left you in charge?
I already advanced my well wishes for the kid. I even did it on the article that has his face on it.
You know, this one: http://perryhall.patch.com/articles/outpouring-of-support-for-perry-hall-high-shooting-victim
4:37 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Read the article!!! They searched his house and arrested his stepdad for marijuana and weapons!!! I'm not brilliant but I have to assume his home life is not ideal... And he got the gun at his dad's house in middle river?...
Do the math, his parents should be locked up!
Leslie Schildgen
4:38 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Christine, you missed the point entirely. . . the issue being discussed about daycare was trying to site differences in schools in the 70s and the present and why those differences may be responsible for such violent behavior in schools. It was simply suggested that the MAJORITY of kids were not raised in day care facilities COMPARED to today. No need to be offended. Just discussion
Raise your kids
5:00 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Of course Christine (and Nicolette) feel offended because they feel guilty for having someone else raise their children.
6:08 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
We are not in the 70's, 80's or 90's...this is the 21st century for GOD sake, soo stop with this nonsense about what caused it... It happened and our world is not the same as when many of us grew up. But to blame daycare, working parents..is just bs. This kid had problems obviously and NOBODY around him..friends or family dealt with it. I mean how do you NOT know as a participating parent that your child is this messed up. so stop with the reasons why and pray that he gets the Ttention he so desperately needs and pray that Daniel survives. geez these comments are ridiculous and just bs.
7:56 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
"this is the 21st century for GOD sake"
You got that wrong as rain. "Once again, General Motors is the largest automobile maker in the world. Folks, where's it written we cannot lead the world in the 20th century in making automobiles? I've not seen it written anywhere." Vice President Joe Biden.
You better wake Joe up and discuss the century with him.
4:39 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Or like Leslie for trying to pick a fight on a board. NOT a one of you mentioned the child who was shot at lunch... Just saying. Thank GOD I don't live in Balitmore anymore, you can say this happens all around the globe, sure, but bmore has some serious issues. The people on here are proving it.
Leslie Schildgen
4:48 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I don't live in Baltimore, Penny and you're the one who is trying to pick a fight. I'm totally calm and engaging in a discussion with all kinds of people with all kinds of opinions. I don't feel this blog is solely to serve the purpose for prayers for the victims. I think it's for good, healthy debate
Nicolette Archambault Carpenter
4:48 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Penny, I agreed with your posts but now you are just as bad as everyone else on this page by passing judgment towards the residents of Baltimore. Don't stoop down to that level and start insulting like the people you're so angry with. I am very sad for all of the victims of this tragedy; including Daniel and all of the children that witnessed this incident. I wish someone would have helped Bobby before he did this and am saddened to know that he has now ruined his life as well. I have followed Daniel's story very closely and am anxiously waiting for them to say he's recovered. I live in Perry Hall, have all of my life, and I am here to stay.
Leslie Schildgen
11:17 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
A little passive aggressive are we? Don't stoop down to the level of insulting people you are so angry with.
Perry Hall Parent
4:52 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
There is nothing wrong with Baltimore County. It is a great place to live and raise a family and the schools are great. There has been a huge outpouring of support from the community for Daniel and everyone else effected by this tragedy.
5:40 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
i agree it is a great place to live. i feel that there are bad things happening in our great place to live and as a community we need to come together to fix these things.
12:49 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
You must have low standards. i took my child out after pre-k because they dont learn anything there. She is now in 2nd grade and has a 4th grade lessons. Now that is great. Learning begins with prayers and ends with reading the bible before night. This makes kids respect there fellow students, parents, siblings, etc.
Brandon Wingate
4:55 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I graduated from perry hall in 2009 and can say that although the school is overcrowded the classrooms still end up being about 20-25 kids and really doesn't have much to do in this case. Also religion has nothing to do with any of this just because someone doesn't believe in fairy tales doesn't mean they have no morals. It comes down to the way the media and music portrays life. The shooter had some issues at home and issues in school. He didn't want to get pushed around in school anymore so he decided he was going to make sure no one messed with him anymore. I came to perry hall in the middle of 9th grade and was made fun of, I also grew up with a single mother in a poverty stricken home but i didnt shoot the school up. It all comes down to your perception on things and events that occur in our life that make us do things. No one can say what exactly made this kid snap because it's a mixture of things and they way he perceives things. I hope that things like this can be prevented but honestly it will eventually happen to a kid who has no one looking out for him.
5:34 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I agree with you that some people are able to deal with bullies. however, there are some kids out there that do not have the capacity to deal. i know from my own issues that my teenage life would have been alot easier if i was not so mad all the time. I did not however take such extreme measures. But i do know what it feels like to think you have no other choice and not knowing how to deal.
Buzz Beeler
5:13 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Bradon, well stated. Thought you might find this interesting.
Reality has a strange way of changing ones mind on a lot of things.
Beth Muller Delaney
5:20 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Did anyone see the helicopter news photo when a student was led out of the school in handcuffs? That student and the "mugshot" do not resemble each other at all!?
Spring Heeled Jack
5:46 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Hey Beth. Yea I saw that too. A light skinned black guy, with no shirt and white pants rolled up.
A few students I spoke to last night at their place of employment in White Marsh clarified that to me. I asked them and they said, "Two or three students were arrested out front of the school for being unruly and not listening to the police. All the students had to leave their backpacks behind for searching; however, one student managed to get his smaller backpack (or something like that) out of building and a police officer told him to bring it back and he refused. The police searched his bag and found some pot."
That what these kids said so take it for what it is.
Leslie Schildgen
9:57 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Yeah, Beth. . . I noticed that too. Who was that short haired boy that got cuffed
5:31 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
i watched the news coverage from the time it started yesterday morning. I distinctily remember the news person interviewing kids that said people were picking on this boy in the cafeteria. so did i imagine all of that? or are they not asking witnesses that were in teh cafeteria at the time. and of course the other kids involved left, they probably went to look for the kid when he left the cafeteria.
6:13 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
If he was bullied and it was the first day of school..did he carry this with him through the summer, because he certainly came prepared with a Shotgun...so if it was bullying then it had to have carried on from last year. Either way, again, where was the support and attention he needed.
5:42 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I notice that the current headline on this article, "Police: Bullying Not A Factor In Perry Hall High Shooting", or perhaps the impression it leaves, does not equal the quote from police: "We are aware of many reports that the suspect was a victim of bullying. We cannot confirm those reports. Gladden's conversations with investigators have not indicated bullying was an issue in this case. The investigation is ongoing,"
I have it from a girl that goes there now, and was in the building at the time, that the shooter "got picked on pretty bad." That is not a "confirmed" specific incident, but it doesn't mean bullying is off the table as a factor here.
I've had at least 4 other occasions when I personally witnessed what happened, or got it direct from the horse's mouth, and the resulting news coverage did not match for whatever reason ... usually to make it more interesting or sensationalize it, IMO. Therefore, I take ALL news reporting with a LARGE grain of salt.
4:02 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
I talked to some of the students and they told me the shooter didn't want to talk to anybody. If you came up to him and said Hi he would tell you to go away. There are a lot of students in the school and even more people he could have come in contact with through the summer. Former teachers have said he was diffuicult even in grade school. Just what I was told.
Spring Heeled Jack
6:12 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I think we have made the term "bullying" way to broad now a days! If some one is called a "dork or freak" everyday, the teen or witnesses call that bullying. If some one has their locker taped up from time to time they call that bullying. Its all BS!
We all dealt with people that just didn't like us throughout our years in school and we had students we didn't like too. It just part of what teenagers do when they are going through brain development and puberty. Its very common "pecking order" that occurs in all species on this planet.
I was a small kid growing up and always had to deal with more mature bigger teens picking on me. I just ignored them and kept doing my thing. In fact, one of the teens that picked on me often is today a very known sports anchor on ESPN. I met him at my 20 year reunion a few back and we were cool and friendly as hell to each other. I hold nothing at all against him. In fact, he is part of what made me get in super shape and become a competitive full contact fighter in my 20's.
Bullying is NEVER a reason to attempt to KILL someone; unless, your life was seriously in jeopardy. Deal with it Gladden, no one ever guarantees you a perfect existence. Its part of growing up. Kinda lucky for you that you won't get to see how the workplace runs, its more brutal than being called names.
11:27 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Thank you.
I have been reading some of the most bizarre comments about this case, in which the shooter has been romanticized into some poor, quiet, different guy who has been mercilessly abused by his peers (for no reason; he's just different), and whose act of violence was virtually unavoidable. "Those bullies out there" (real or imagined) are the vilified ones, and he is the hapless victim. Even if this were the case, wouldn't the bullies themselves get to use the "I just can't help the way my peers made me" excuse, too? But it's not the case. I find the whole situation sad, and the shooter needs help. But we have no evidence that he's lived life as an angel, simply getting picked on and never having a hand in the fights at school, or legitimately provoking the dislike of his peers. Most of us have done that-- it takes two to tango. This doesn't mean bullying isn't real, but I am surprised at how quickly so many jumped to that conclusion, particularly the romanticized conclusion that the shooter is the one who deserves all the pity and benefit of the doubt (not the kid who was actually shot and in many cases, was falsely accused of bullying).
7:17 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Herr is the deal with bullying that we are forgetting. Yes its a broad term now but bullying is no longer limited to school or your neighborhood. With all the methods of social media a kid can feel threatened without leaving their home. That being said there is no excuse for what happened. The parents are responsible as well as any of us parents that use computers or video games or tv or cell phones as a form of babysitting instead of turning these off and talking to your children.
Leslie Schildgen
11:23 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
I agree with you, Carrie. I bet this shooter never felt unconditional love from either parent. If you feel you have no one, can't image what your mind does. For all of you who feel "offended" or "outraged" by this comment. . . get off the blog.
7:24 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
t's a sad day in hell,when a 15 yr old boy thinks it is ok to go to school with a shotgun and shoot a kid because he feels like it.The parents need to ask there self why there son thought it was alright to do this.Let's get back to our children people and find out what they are doing with there time and what they want to be when they grow up.Stop put electronics in there hands to keep them out of your hair or to satisfy peer pressure of the next person having something your child don't have. js, parents take back your children!
Laura D. Vendetti
7:31 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I too am a Perry Hall High parent in addition to working at Loch Raven High School. On one hand I pray for the victim and the suspect (that he gets the help he needs). On the other hand I say everyone is bullied or just about everyone. Baltimore County Public Schools has broadened the definition of bullying and we are required to take action. I was bullied and my younger sister was bullied. I have gotten over it and in some cases have become friends with these people. (35 years later). My sister however, is very angry to this day about being bullied. I mean really angry and holds grudges! I think given the chance, she could shoot the people that bullied her! What makes us so different? I call her on this all of the time!
8:05 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Ha, although I'd never want to do bodily harm to those who bullied me in high school (I was not in middle school - but I lived in New York then, Virginia in high school), I definitely have had nothing to do with them, and when my 20 year reunion rolled around, I could've cared less. Even if I looked better then most of them (I do), I'd be too inclined to rage the minute one of them made a reference to something from that time.
8:41 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
This seems to be common place. I blame many reasons not in any order....formula, ingredients in vaccines, allowing babies to CIO, foods with dye, fake ingredients (aspartame), msg, antibiotics, nonprescription & prescription drugs, and parents that have little to no connection to their kids. Most of these reasons have a direct alteration of the brain. We are changing how the brain forms and how kids connect to other kids. There is no empathy and why should there be when parents are not teaching their kids as well as their brains have been altered. It is no wonder this is not happening more often.
8:44 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Wow. Reading through all these posting only reinforces just how much of a shock this all has been. A "local" kid, not bussed in, from one of those "bad" areas. One of "us".
We are all reeling. Let's take a step back from all the mindless accusations.
This is a troubled kid from a VERY troubled family.
Should he be let out tomorrow? NO. Should the system go easy on him? NO.
Does he need help? YES.
He gravely injured one of the most innocent and helpless among us.
EVERYBODY needs to take a step back.
Joanne Lovick
8:54 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
To all: 1st - looked at the page and his comment was enough to be concerned. The fact that he "likes" the book about the Manson family story was enough to get my attention, but I'm not blaming the parents.
2nd: To the one who said give up the second car - didn't have one - $38K salary (not) - eating out (didn't happen) - no cell phones when I was a mother - no cable (TV was free) - I worked because we were just above the income to receive assistance with food stamps and otherwise my child would not have had food. There were very few programs in place, then, to assist - just the food stamps. My daughter was raised with knowing the love of Jesus and that He is/was and will always be her source of strength. There is no sure-fire way to keep these things from happening, but keeping tabs on your child's friends, activities, and moods, can surely help in the long-run. Just my two-cents worth. God bless both of these families.
9:02 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Joanne, some people just need to attack. They think that all the "bad" things happen to the "bad" people. It would never happen to them, because they are "good". It's just a defense mechanism. They can't in a million years imagine that they are vulnerable.
9:25 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
after reading all the comments it is so easy to blame the issue on everything. look at society in general, babies having babies,parents wanting to be friends with their child instead of being a parent or mentor(which isn't cool to some).everybody always blames single parent families, low income families or now working families with kids in daycare. Come on if these people didn't work so they could stay home then you would complain they are sponging off the working people. bottom line is you can teach your children the right way of doing everything and pray that what you teach them they take with them as
adults. some will and some won't.stop blaming and looking for a reason WHY this happened and look for a way to stop it in the future from happening again...Keep Daniel in everyones prayers and thoughts that should be the main thought of everyone
9:55 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Gee, I go away for 24 hours and the whole place goes nuts. How do stop following this thread?!?!?!
11:58 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Pray for Daniel for geez sake nothing else matters at this point!
Mike Smith
12:24 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Wow what a thread. Now parents who work are irresponsible. Daycare providers manufactor killers. Over crowding is due to greedy farmers and diet soda warps kids brains. Wow now I have all the answers. Look everyone you all are making this way deeper then it needs to be. The shooter is a piece of crap criminal. He shot an innocent person. Shooter now goes to jail for many many years problem solved. No one else is to blame. This kid went to a lot of effort to get his 15 minutes of fame because he is a bad person. Now he can go to prison and be someone's bitch.
Leslie Schildgen
11:57 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Man you sure can twist words. You should be a politician
7:44 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Praying for this young man. We need to remember that children are not born bad, they are raised bad. This kid had no chance until now. He needs love, guidance, and help...not hate. What he did wasn't about fame...but misguidance and anger. Lord bring someone into this boy's life. Someone who will invest in him and his future. Let him know that somebody does care.
4:19 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Have you seen this boys facebook page? If you did you would be saying differnt things. After seeing his page the sad part is I would need to hear directly from him he wasn't trying to get his 15 minutes of fame. Yes he needs help but he also needs to be punished for the crimes he committed: Shooting a boy, carrying a canceled weapon onto school property (did he have a permit for the gun-no), premeditated murder/suicide plans, carrying alcohol on school grounds and under age to drink it. I'm sure there are more. I am angry that this boy shot another boy and did emotional damage to soo many people. He knew what he was doing and it wasn't about bullying. Everyone has a right to their opinion but it really upsets me when people get like this about the shooter.
8:24 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Schools aren't equipped to "raise" our children. It's not their mission! They're not babysitters or police officers either. That's the duty of family. Teach your children to be kind. I once heard a child in the grocery store, say outloud how fat someone was. The child's parent didn't scold them. But, the person the child was pointing at, turned around & softly said "that is an ugly thing to say". The kid shut up, after being "educated" by a stranger. Maybe, we should speak up more often.
Doug K
9:01 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
"He walked back into the cafeteria and drew the weapon, police said. Perry Hall guidance counselor Jesse Wasmer then rushed toward him, but before Wasmer could subdue him, Gladden fired one round, striking 17-year-old Daniel Borowy, Johnson said."
Now we know that this wasn't a case of Gladden trying to defend himself from a bully or any such pretext . . . it was Gladden trying to be a bully -- to shoot an innocent kid with Downs Syndrome so he could feel better about himself.
Mary Klopcic
9:18 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
All of the shooters have one thing in common...they are mentally imbalanced. No psychologically healthy person walks into a school or a movie theater and starts shooting a gun unless some distorted thought process got them to that point. Any one thing could factor in - poor parenting, bullying, whatever but most likely there is already a predisposition to mental illness . The mentally ill can come from the best families in the world (whatever that means to you) and they will still be mentally Ill - full of distorted thinking that leads them to do distorted things. I believe there is a mental health crisis in our nation that NOBODY is addressing . I have had to pour tons of money into private resources for my adopted children because there are no real supports in the public sector. I have a daughter with down syndrome. Daniel is in my prayers. He did nothing but be in the wrong place at the wrong time while some other kid acted out his distorted thoughts. It could have been any of our children in the hospital today. The shooter needs help, strong consequences for his behavior and a system that actually helps people with mental illness while protecting society from them. And there will be more shootings and more violence and more craziness because nobody is addressing the real issue.
Leslie Schildgen
10:04 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
There has always been mentally ill kids. . . my questions is why does this generation have so many shooters in school.
Eric Martin
9:51 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
My 23 year old son told me that a Perry Hall High student who works part-time with him said that he had been teasing the young Gladden in the morning prior to the shooting. I also heard a report that Gladden was actually aiming at another student and accidentally hit Daniel Borowy. These are both unconfirmed hearsay reports, but thought I'd just put them out there in case someone heard similar accounts. Also, at some point there will probably be a hearing called a reverse waiver hearing in an attempt to get a judge to waive Robert Gladden from the adult system into the juvenile court system, assuming that Daniel Borowy recovers from his wound.
Beth Muller Delaney
9:55 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Like another person commented, the fact of the matter is, he brought a gun to school . If what his attorney says is true "He just wanted to scare people with his gun", he should've left the bullets home....nice try. He had every intent to hurt not intimidate.
Leslie Schildgen
11:58 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
are you kidding me. . . is this really what his attorney said
Spring Heeled Jack
12:34 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Of course. This is society to day! Overly entitled youth! The child is never to blame, its always someone or something else. This is the issue in America today; too many BS laws protecting criminals and too many laws to the other side offering PC rights.
Leslie Schildgen
1:10 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Okay. . . here's a question. . . why is this boy entitled to a free attorney and the family of the victim has to pay all their medical bills.
1:47 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
U.S. Constitution for him. Civil court for family. Next question?
Leslie Schildgen
1:54 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Are there any agencies, pools of non-profit money, anything like that other than the website that's been created for donations that are available to help this family with medical expenses
3:04 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
For those that didn't see the link to the website that's raising money, this is it:
4:26 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
There are a couple of donations set up for Daniel's medical bills. I would contact the school (410)887-5108 to see if they know anything. One of the banks in the area offered to put the first deposit in of $500, they need to set it up with the parents and they are with their son so I don't know if it is started or not. The school alumni is taking donations by credit card.
Paula M
2:02 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Single Mom
First off everyone needs to quit bickering amongst themselves and pray for both families, the faculty and staff and students at the high school because no matter how you look at this it is a horriffic and traumatic event for everyone in our community and our thoughts and prayers should be with them all instead of looking at who to blame in hindsight. I truly hope and pray that Daniel makes a full recovery and that Gladden does not get off with and insanity plea, yes he may have problems and issues that need to be addressed but he definitely had enough of his faculties to know to bring the gun and shells to school, how to put it together and shoot it as well as how to hide it until he wanted it to be seen, definitely shows he intended to hurt someone. I'm just grateful that no one else was hurt and that things weren' t worse for all the students who were around him all morning long or on the bus with him that morning. As far as parenting goes I'm raising my third child who just started at PHHS on Monday, yes the school is overcrowded, no without a father none of my boys have ended up in jail, my two oldest, one has graduated from college and is working and the other just started college this year, both with a combination of athletic and academic scholarships. Parenting is what you make of it and how involved you stay in your childrens lives, the more involved you are the closer you will be to your child. Show them love, discipline, kindness and respect!
Leslie Schildgen
2:10 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
We're not bickering. . . we're simply problem solving and picking each others' brains to see if we can make sense of any of this. This blog is not just for praying. It's for bragging, chatting, arguing, etc. Quit acting like a mean mother and chastising us for bickering and not praying
4:30 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Paula I was going to comment at the end but you just said it all. I hope your child at P.H.H.S. is doing well and you and your family as well.
12:44 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Single mom lol that is funny that you promote yourself this way. I am assuming your divorce and if i stand correct its not condone by God. So your praying will not do any good. Having both parents there is the most important thing for a child. Look this kid had a step dad. See the picture. You probably don't even go to chruch so why even pray. We really need to bring God back into our schools otherwise there is no hope for any public school. I went to the Philippines and wow its great out there in publlic school. God is there.
2:21 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
To answer Leslie's question - I'm not sure of the ins and out, but the Stephanie Roper Committee assists victims of crime. I believe they also provide financial help but not 100% sure. Again - I don't know how they determine who they help, or how to qualify. There is also a Victim's Services unit in Baltimore County. If anyone on this board knows Daniel's family personally, maybe you can relay this information to them, although hopefully their attorney would tell them. There may be more agencies, but I know of these resources, unfortunately through personal experience.
Leslie Schildgen
2:31 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
VWK. . . I know someone who knows the family very well and will be most grateful for this information. Thanks so much and so sorry for your unfortunate personal experience.
anita bass
2:34 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
My question is how often did Robert bring the gun to school? I realize that this was his first day at high school but was this something that carried over from middle school. Was this the first time he brought a gun to school and just got sick of kids throwing food at him? Parents we have to talk to our children and keep talking to them. This kind of stuff goes on everyday at schools whether you call it bullying or not. I was a victim of bullying back in the 70's it is never going to stop no matter what neighborhood you live in!
Leslie Schildgen
3:03 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Anita, your comment relates to my original point in question. . . why in the 70s did we manage to be bullied and survive but today kids are using guns in school to kill people.
Leslie Schildgen
3:06 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
My friend who knows the family has just reported that Daniel (victim of shooting) is sitting up in bed and has undergone his second operation. So far so good
Buzz Beeler
4:54 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Leslie, very well written comment. True adult discourse at it's best. Hope others will follow.
12:39 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
ITS THE PARENTS FAULT. You want to fix your kids, take them to church EVERY Sunday. Let them learn about there lord in Sunday School. Have them read a bible daily. If all the kids did this then they would respect each other like the kids in my daughters Christian school. I took her out after Pre-k because i dont want her to have any part of this violence. America does not want to offend anyone else's religion so no religion is allowed. Well happy for the government because now more situations like this will arise. A real parent would spend money to give there kids the best education but most think they care but they don't so they buy them nice shoes, clothes so they can look sexy and have babies at 16 etc. They rather drive a nice car then give there child an education so dont say i dont have money too do this. Sell one of your 3 cars and you can. This is for all the parents and this probably applies to 90 percent of them.
12:46 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
In 2009, there were approximately 14,000,000 secondary students. By your approximation, there are 12,600,000 students on the road to potential gun violence at a school. I mention this not to be ridiculous, but to point out that your hyperbole of "90 percent" accomplishes nothing other than to inflame parents to the point they are not going to listen to you.
Penelope Patch
1:41 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Sounds like the parents had their own issues with violence, substance abuse and other problems. Much has been written about the step father and a little about the father. None of it is very flattering. How about the mother? Where is she and what is her role in all of this? What did she do to give her son a good life, to set a good example, and to expose her son to upstanding male role models?
12:50 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Everyone, in their grief, anger, fear, and horror wants to be able to pinpoint a reason for this very, very tragic event. I don't think it's one thing; I think it's a combination of many factors, some of which we might never know. On this earth there is both good and evil, and it is ultimately up to us, individually, to decide which one we are going to follow. However, if a child is never made aware of the cost of that decision, he or she will take the lower road, because it's easier. We are all born with the love of God within us, and that is what makes us do the good and right things. We certainly can't manufacture that ourselves. If we don't know about this love, we have no hope. If we have no hope, we turn to desperate measures or we turn to substances to fill our emptiness. This boy had no hope. This boy took the low road and succumbed to the evil of this world. Could he have been helped? Yes, if he knew how to seek out help, but he didn't. The parent/child relationship should be a direct reflection of God's relationship with us, full of love, guidance, grace, respect, and discipline. Obviously none of that was available to this young man. Pray for everyone involved in this horrible situation, and ask yourself what you could possibly do in the future to keep something like this from happening and teach your children well.
Mike Fisher
6:18 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
THe "no bullying" claim is BS. Gladden *was* being bullied by three kids at this school and he retaliated. His father has spent time or is spending time in jail right now for attempted murder and his mother is a psychopath. Gladden was attempting to retaliate against people bullying him, but he hit an innocent student instead. Way to go, Police. Get the story all wrong. Bullying DEFINITELY played a role in all of this as told to me in great detail by my neighbor Kateland, who actually goes to the school and knows the situation and why it happened. The Police are either incompetent or just want to make Gladden look worse, which is hard to do, but he was being bullied and the shooting was retaliation.
Other Tim
6:46 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
"Gladden's conversations with investigators have not indicated bullying was an issue in this case."
"Johnson told reporters that Gladden was cooperating with investigators."
If Gladden told police bullying was not an issue, I tend to believe the police here.
Mike Fisher
7:02 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Regardless of that, it doesn't explain the many witnesses including my neighbor who knew he was being bullied and saw it happening. Gladden could very well be protecting those people because of the shame he feels. I'm glad he's being cooperative, but the "no bullying" seems to go against the common knowledge of people who attend this school.
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7:29 am on Friday, September 7, 2012
It is BS Mike, you are right. the schools want to avoid liability. a failure to prevent and intervene on un/documented bullying in middle school is how this happened. yes, the parents are unfortunate. but the school has responsibility to know whats going on with the students.
Mike Fisher
1:29 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Well, Daya, being abused as a child and being bullied through school gives me a different perspective on all of this. Bullying, especially in middle school, goes completely unnoticed as if it's just a normal part of school. The only time authority figures step in to do anything is if a fight breaks out or something of that nature. Personally, I was used to it. I got bullied at home constantly, much worse than school and I never got into a fight at school (well, once kinda, but I don't count it because I was laughing so hard at how stupid the situation was and ended up jamming my thumb into the floor from falling over laughing :p )
I'm sorry, but most of this stuff comes down to bad parenting. In my case, it made me a perfect victim. In others, it makes them the victimizers. The cycle of abuse starts early and continues through life. This is why I wrote my Child Abuse blog.
Also, I don't think there's any POSSIBLE way that the school doesn't know that there is bullying going on in schools because it's a given, but being a "tattle tale" is something no one wants to be, but maybe more should be.
IMO, the parents hold the MOST, by FAR, responsibility because they raise a child that attempted to kill another child for bullying him and the child he shot wasn't even a target, he missed! Father was/is in jail for attempted murder, mother has mental problems, this is what you get. This is why we have so many F'd up ppl running around.
Mike Fisher
1:37 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
With all my experience of hearing kids and young adults call the radio show Loveline with all these kinds of issues and having their abuse history be so predictable, for 10 f'n years and with all that psychology knows about the effects of abuse on children and how most of them turn out as adults, I know this will be unpopular opinion, but we should not be allowing people to have kids whenever they want in this country under a certain age without meeting certain requirements.
I am *convinced*, without a shadow of a doubt, that parents having kids they have no idea how to raise or were abused themselves as children and never engaged in therapy to work those issues out should not be allowed to have children. It's really that simple. Children under a certain age should not be allowed to have children and adults with abuse or criminal histories shouldn't be either. No one wants to acknowledge these kinds of issues, but THIS is where our CRIMINALS come from, they come from being raised by CRIMINALS or VICTIMS who have not dealt with their issues and pass them along to their children. Why can't we just see that for what it is? More importantly, when do the parents start to take responsibility for raising F'd up kids? No child asks to be brought up in an abusive home. I don't think people should be allowed to have children without the very BASIC screening process and, if needed, ongoing therapy. It just blows my mind that no one wants to TOUCH this issue. Why not??
10:16 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
Mike nobody wants to touch the subject because the governement is already doing so much to butt into your life that when it comes to raising your kids it is a very touchy subject and one politicans stay away from. Please rethink one of the things you said: I was a victim of a terrible crime and it is an issue that I still have trouble with just like a lot of other victoms out there, please don't include us in what you said. The responsibilty comes down to the parents & stepfather. Not only was it the first day of school so no reports for that year but the school system had tried several times to get Bobby help. The help he needed was from his home life, being a bully himself and sometimes being bullied. The school system can only do so much, he is a minor and the parent's responsibility.To a certian degree the parents have control over the school system as well and going by news reports I doubt the parents cared if Bobby got help or not. I have a degree in education and have put in many, many volunteer hours so I know what I am talking about. I wish at some point the system could have taken Bobby from his parents, then he might have had a chance, but this is very easy for the parents to fake like they are doing a great job.
Mike Fisher
3:04 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Wel,, Jeanne, I know I have very strong opinions about many things, but I'm not sure what you are asking me to rethink? I'm sorry for whatever crime you were victim to and I certainly did not intend to re-open any wounds.
The government is involved in our lives too much, but they're involved in the wrong ways and I'm not even saying it should be a government agency. Are adoption agencies run by the government? That part I admit I don't know the answer to now that I think of it. I was under the impression that adoption centers were state run.
Here's the thing, why should Bobby have free will to NOT get help? I didn't have a choice when I was a child whether I wanted therapy or not because I was a minor. Is this different now? A minor can refuse psychiatric treatment? The school tries to get Bobby help, though not hard enough apparently, and Bobby's parent's didn't care, so this is what happens. Who steps in and says "Hey! We're not going to allow this, either you allow us to give you psychiatric treatment and you do what we tell you to do or you can go sit in juvy or something. You don't just do nothing, how can he refuse anything as a minor? It sounds to me no one really cared about Bobby, not even his own family, no wonder he was so angry at the world and did what he did!
Mike Fisher
3:14 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
... and here's all I'm saying. You need to be qualified, tested and trained to do the following things: Drive a car, operate heavy machinery, fly a helicopter, be in the military, be a doctor like a surgeon or psychiatrist.. the list goes on and on. Even at adoption centers, they don't just hand anyone a child. I've never gone through the process, but I imagine you need a lot of background checks, evaluations, tests you have to pass, paperwork to fill out, all proving to this adoption agency that you are capable of raising a child in a healthy environment.
Children put up for adoption have already been abandoned by their parents, abused and taken away from parents or whatever other reasons there may be. Mom was a drug addict and father not around, I'm sure there's many reasons. My question is, what sense does it make to have these strict standards and guidelines that you have to meet, qualify for, and pass to do just about anything in life including have a job or whatever it is you want to do including adopting a child, but you don't need ANY training, any qualifications, anything at all to have children whenever you want with whoever you want. You don't need a license, you don't need training, you don't need to do anything except have unprotected sex and we're just fine with that? This is just completely bizarre to me, Jeanne. I just don't think people really, really understand how widespread child abuse is and how it affects the developing brain of a child, it's PROFOUND.
Mike Fisher
3:23 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
... and our prisons are full of adults who were abused as children who went on to abuse other people, either children or adults because that is how their brains were programmed due to their abuse. That's what they were taught was ok to do, that's what they grow up learning. The first 10 years especially of a child's life, it is SO important to have a healthy home life, good parents who care about you and teach you the right way to live life. When you don't have that, you get criminals like Robert Gladden, you get adult mothers who drown their own children, you have adult fathers who beat the S out of their wife and child, and yet as a society, we just cling on to this "free will" argument?
When your brain is F'd up in this way from abuse, there is no "free will", it's the cycle of abuse. Let me ask you a question. Do you think parents who were not abused as children would ever even think about hitting or sexually abusing their children? Do you think it would even cross their minds to do that? Do you think, if Robert Gladden had a healthy home life and had parents who were sane and cared about him that this would have ever happened?
I guess I just feel that having children should be a privilege, something you have to prove you can do before you are allowed to do it. This applies to almost everything else in life, but when it comes to raising children, something more important to society than ANY of those other things, we just say "free will!" Do whatever you want. Why?
Mike Fisher
3:28 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Why don't people see that this is causing and enabling child abuse? I just don't understand it at all. It makes no sense to me... why people can't see this. There are plenty of things the government should not be involved with that it is involved with, but when it comes down to it, is it not better for society as a whole to take more precautions to make sure that people who choose to bring children into this world are qualified to be parents as opposed to career criminals or child abusers? Why do we just look the other way, but when it comes to adoption, it's a totally different ballgame. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Shouldn't we do more to ensure kids don't get abused and abandoned in the first place as opposed to waiting for it to happen, waiting for the damage to be done and THEN stepping in and taking it seriously?
Leslie Schildgen
1:59 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Mike: Our government gives out so many entitlements and make it so easy to have children without having to go to work and/or act responsibly that people have children on their own on purpose to get paid.
Mike Fisher
2:13 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
It's what happens when America turns into a nanny state and government, which should be small, is now huge government and wants everyone to rely on them. There are so many things wrong and corrupt about this country these days and people are too divided to do anything about it. It just goes to show that they don't really see this as an issue even though it is, quite possibly, the biggest issue facing this country right now. People having kids for all the wrong reasons, then not knowing a damn thing about how to raise them. Things like PHHS, Littleton and all these other mass murders at random locations like movie theaters happen. Kids grow up without the proper direction and instead, they are raised by the TV, inappropriate music for their age and getting involved with the wrong people. This world is so messed up on so many levels, I can't even begin to fathom how it could ever be fixed without a civil war, which I hope never happens. Big changes are needed in so many areas. I do, however, think people are closer now than they've ever been at waking up to the reality of what this country is becoming and WHY it's becoming that way. If nothing else, that is a positive step in the right direction.
3:31 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Leslie, Mike, and anyone else"
The most recent comments are things I generally agree with. I havent read them all.
Here's the problem I give you: How do you - legally - prevent the poor from having children?
Believe me, I've pondered this same question for years. Why is it people on long term welfare get to pop out 3+ kids, while people who make a hard earned living with both parents working think long and hard over how many children they have - considering their fiscal ability to raise them (among other reasons, obviously).
You all know I have solutions or ideas for many problems...but I'm drawing a complete blank on this one. You can't just take away someone's right to pro-create (male or female)...can you?
We could apply this to adults who are drug addicts as well, for that matter.
Mike Fisher
3:48 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
I think raising children should be a privilege, not a right. The answer? Hmm, I don't know. You could make birth control mandatory once you reach the age where you are capable of having kids, girls anyway since we don't have BC for men except condoms, but even they can fail. Many BC methods are 99.8% effective when it comes to things like the BC pill.
You have to earn the right to drive a car, but you don't have to earn the right to raise children? This, of course, all assumes that all parents are good parents and would not abuse their kids. This is not reality, though. People just go around having sex and I don't think there's much you can do to stop people from having sex, but you can do things to lower the chances that such sex does not result in a pregnancy. If you do get pregnant, you immediately must start undergoing training, testing, and attempting to meet the same qualifications that any couple aspiring to adopt a child should go through. If you can't do that, then give the child to parents who DO meet those qualifications. I guarantee we'd have a better society, less crime and better people overall. That's really the only thing I can think of at the moment, Tim.
Leslie Schildgen
3:54 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Tim: Stop rewarding people with free money for giving birth
1:30 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
If I were the Governor I would reward those who do good for our state. Tax benefits to those who have less children. If you don't have kids you should pay less property tax. Stop giving money to people who do not show they are responsible. Would you keep supporting a family member if they kept buying drugs, guns, beer, etc. I know I wouldn't and the state should not either. This is just common sense. Tax benefits to those who choose private school as they are helping with reducing overcrowd ness in public school.
3:40 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Eliminate the entire free and reduced lunch program. What do these parents do during the summer? If you can't afford to feed a kid breakfast and lunch you are unfit for parenting - inability to feed is neglect. School lunches can be purchased for $3. If you can't afford that you have no business having children. Like others have said, make it financially tough on folks to have kids and they will stop. Don't get me started on then"independence" card. All of these are manifestations of a lack of responsibility which eventually shows itself as poor parenting. You wat to have responsible kids who know how to deal with things in a healthy way, we have to have responsible parents.
3:42 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Another thought - why does it cost tens of thousands of dollars and require parents to jump through numerous screenings and hoops to adopt a kid from some third world country yet in the US any low life crack whore or drug dealer can have a baby on the public dime?


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I've been struggling. If you read the few posts I've written, you know this. If you're new: Hi. My name is Dani. I'm 23. And I've been struggling with patience & my scale.
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