Don't Be Evil Means Don't Be Evil - <AUTHOR> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/dont-be-evil-means-dont-be-evil

<comment><USER2> 'Tap the person on the shoulder and say "Hey, do you know you really shouldn't be distributing those?" Take ten minutes to figure out that leading with lawyers is both overkill and one of the worst sins you can commit in this community.'

This makes no sense to me. If Google told me, "Stop distributing our closed source applications" then I wouldn't care whether I was told by an engineer or a lawyer. And I certainly don't see why using a lawyer to do this would be "one of the worst sins you can commit" in the open source community.

With that being said, this article raises good points about the closed-ness of the Android software dev kits, their use of NDAs, and how their handling of Android development has been less open than Google likes to claim.

<comment><USER3> To me, a C&D implies bad intentions on the part of the recipient. I would much rather receive an informal request before any legal action is presented against me.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> So evil, in this case, is not calling someone before sending them a C&D letter?

If their motto was "Don't be Annoying" I could understand the outrage... and yes, Google probably made a mistake by not calling the guy first.

But it seems like a simple corporate communications mistake... and last I checked mistakes, especially the first time they occur, aren't evil.

</comment><comment><USER5> I hate their stupid motto. In order for it to have meaning they have to define evil, what religious / ethical framework are they using? stupid stupid motto, stupid stupid journalists

<comment><USER6> As a guiding principle, it's concise, clear and light-hearted. It exists moreso to cause employees to pause and consider whether their actions violate this principle.

An ethics document would obviously be more detailed, but those three simple words allow for a quick initial vetting of a decision.

I think it's less a question of ethics in general, and more a question of not playing by the rules of the community in which they're trying to participate.</comment></comment>


Which USA do you work in? - <AUTHOR> http://blogmaverick.com/2012/08/16/which-usa-do-you-work-in/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogmaverick%2FtyiP+%28blog+maverick%29 <comment><USER2> Very interesting article, and a point-of-view I'd never really considered. I had always assumed the "intelligence" that was being added by software was an addition to the existing business processes. I hadn't thought that some of it was originating from and replacing employees.

However, much as the ideas make intuitive sense, I'm having a hard time thinking of concrete examples. How does using Square take away from what Starbucks employees could've brought to the job? Ironically, the only example I can think of is IT work, both helpdesk and sys-admin. Lots of software seems to be replacing the craft of troubleshooting. Good if you have a bad IT dept.; bad if you have a good one.

And finally, I don't think the overlap is complete. A company may automate a lot of things, but there are other things, or even the automation itself where employees can still give valuable input. It may be like the manufacturing in the end: companies come back around to the other intangible values once they see the true cost of only optimizing for the bottom line. Sad that it always takes a whole cycle of outsourcing, downsizing, losing customers, and crappy products/service before the industry comes around and rethinks the strategy.

<comment><USER3> With square you don't anymore need people who can work as a cashier. This is not just counting money. It means people who won't steal, etc. This is more difficult to find than people who just keep the shop clean, and thus they are more expensive. The consequence is that well eucated people (moral) and intelligent people will move away or be pushed away. (appologize for my bad english. I'm french)

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> Wow. What an awful read. The topic should be interesting, but this guy comes off as an idiot: basic grammar errors, sentences that trail off into the void, etc.

Required "job skills" classes sound like insanity. What would they teach? A semester of Excel is not a computer science / statistics double-major going to make, nor will a semester of Hadoop help anyone without the background to use it.

Yes, increased use of centralized analytics in large businesses is polarizing the job market. Some things that once required a layer of middle-management to comprehend can now be done directly on the raw data. This is the layer that's at risk.

However, not all companies are big. Some things focus on actual personal relationships. Some things require actual creative output (design, either engineering or artistic). All of that is still around. And none of that will be helped by "job skills" classes.

<comment><USER5> First off, This is Mark Cuban, who is in my top 3 list of intelligent public figures and influential enough to me that I definitely feel the need to defend him a bit here.

I think what he meant by "job skill" classes is more along the lines of codeacademy because this is a very direct skill that can be applied instantly to industry problems, whatever those might be.

The author feels that universities should promote these types of resources with some sort of incentive because what's working in the job market now is real applicable skills... something a Business Admin/Liberal Arts major might not have.

Having Javascript on your resume is looking attractive to more and more employers.

Also the premium on personal relationships with employees of a firm is decreasing in the sense that the best customer support relationship I can have is none at all, the product just works.

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> What's this alternate definition of "pig latin" that he's referring to?

<comment><USER7> I'm guessing he's referring to Apache Pig, for doing map-reduce database operations (e.g. joins) in Hadoop. <http://pig.apache.org/docs/r0.7.0/piglatin_ref2.html>

</comment></comment><comment><USER8> I'd be interested to ask Mark about the tier between "brick and mortar" and "digital." Sometimes even engineers get sick and need a doctor. Or sue each other and need lawyers. Or remodel their home and need a contractor. It's nice when these people are smart, and fortunately many are, even if they never write code. It's still ridiculously hard to get into medical school--our doctors are the kids who got straight As in university. Perhaps that's an extreme example, but there are many industries that do not have "the intelligence sucked out" in a human asset notion, though perhaps in another 10 years big data will write prescriptions.

<comment><USER9> I think the best way to think about this is rate and direction of change.

Even in these professions that are starting with a high base of smarts in "brick and mortar", the ratio of "digital smarts"/"brick and mortar smarts" is growing. Where are big improvements in diagnosis going to come from? Smarter GPs or smarter diagnostic tools? It doesn't mean GPs will get less smart or that there will be fewer of them, but the ratio is going to grow.

<comment><USER10> Indeed. We may not have full "Artificial Intelligence" in the short term, but longer term (not much longer) it seems like a bad idea to bet against the computer revolution. There was a time not so long ago when people thought computers would never be better than people at /chess/.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER3> I understand the author had a point to make, but my analysis is diferent. I'm trying to look a little further away in time. We will still need brick and mortar work to be done and we'll have a very stronger pressure on energy optimization. So I'll foresee the next revolution (after digital) as a robotic revolution. That is what I would say to young people. Keep your eyes and ears open on this domain to become the experts in that field.

<comment><USER11> I agree, to an extent, but a robotic revolution is still software eating the world - for example house building.

Robots can currently 3d print in concrete, and the roof stays on, what is hard is the software and architecture to design a window cavity that is printable, functional etc etc, and the software needed for balance, precision location

I think what I am saying is that hardware is only 33% of the robotic revolution - the rest is same as we discuss here

</comment></comment><comment><USER12> I'm in the USA that wishes it was in the USA, so it could get access to cheaper everything.

(Which is another way of saying I'm in Australia).

<comment><USER13> Would you take the cut in pay that goes along with that?

I have a friend in an Australian software company that is starting to consider outsourcing to the US to cut down on programming costs.

<comment><USER12> Huh? Programming salaries in Australian hotspots are lower than those in US hotspots.

But the rent is higher, the petrol more expensive, the food more expensive, imported electronics more expensive and so on and so forth _in spite of the soaring dollar_.

<comment><USER13> Minimum wage is also twice what it is in the US

<comment><USER12> The rent, the petrol, the food and the imported goods are not primarily driven by the Australian minimum wage. Domestic labour forms only a small part of their cost.

<comment><USER13> I think you're missing my point. It's about the proportion of the wage spent on -foo-. When I was in the US, I found that food was cheap, but in a weird way. The cost of a _meal_ was similar to here, but the portion sizes were a bit bigger. Obviously if you make your own food you'll save a bit... but given the differences in minimum wage, the poor in the US will need that comparative 'savings'.

Similarly, the costs of doing business in Australia are paid in Australian dollars. Need a new roll of paper for the fax machine? You're paying Australian prices for it. Need a business lunch? Australian dollars. Phone line? Australian dollars. Just because the dollar started soaring five years ago doesn't mean that all this pricing will be reset down. How would you take your boss saying "Because the Aussie dollar is strong, we're adjusting your salary downwards now that you can buy more with it"?

Sure, it annoys me that digital downloads gouge based on IP address, but the other goods you mention are more complex than "dollar strong, so they must become cheaper".

<comment><USER12> You've misread me.

I don't expect everything to get cheaper because of the dollar. I do expect _some_ things to. And they haven't.

Stuff is more expensive in Australia because there are fewer of us. The market is smaller, there's less competition and less economies of scale. Mix in the odd combination of almost unlimited land and almost unlimited restrictions on land release and you can see why just about everything in this country is, dollar or no dollar, more expensive than the USA.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER14> Both Marks say the same thing one year apart. [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405311190348090457651...](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903480904576512250915629460.html)</comment>


On the future of iOS and Android - <AUTHOR> http://stevecheney.com/on-the-future-of-ios-and-android/

<comment><USER2> this is one of the best posts I have read. Not sure why it didn't take off here.

<comment><USER3> I, for one, disagree with almost every claim in this article. I think the positions the author takes are too open to controversy to reach the top of somewhere like hacker news.</comment></comment>


Ask HN: Beta Tester Slots Available for 'Tinder for Jobs' (using AngelList) - <AUTHOR>

The app is exactly what it sounds like! Indicate that you are or aren't interested in a jobs :)<p>Before a wider release, we (I and my friend based in England) would love some more feedback - who'd like to test it out and is willing to give a bunch of feedback? <comment> pre-show-mac Well, what is it?</comment>


Infrastructure Automation with Chef - <AUTHOR> http://www.slideshare.net/jweiss/infrastructure-automation-withchef

<comment><USER2> FYI, this is one of the better decks I've seen on puppet/chef/devops. Very well done.</comment>


The Unique Weapons of Ancient Japan - <AUTHOR> http://www.tofugu.com/2015/08/07/katana-rocket-launchers-unique-weapons-ancient-japan/ <comment><USER2> Ah yes, the Japanese weapons.

A pet theory of mine is that they get so much attention because the Japanese held onto feudalism far longer than the colonial powers. As such, the colonial representatives attached some romanticism to Japan and the Samurai.

Something similar laid the foundation for the troubles Iraq has faced to this day, if Adam Curtis is to be trusted.

[http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/entries/2989a78a-ee94-...](http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/entries/2989a78a-ee94-385e-808f-c9c7c38d1cb7)

<comment><USER3> Is it not also possible that they get so much attention because they are genuinely interesting?

<comment><USER4> They are genuinely interesting in part because they're "Far East" and seem foreign.

With that said, knowing Western designs of weapons is also extremely interesting. The progression of simple sword -> sword+crossbar -> sword+ crossbar + ring guard -> Rapier -> Basket-hilted sword says a lot about Western Martial Arts (aka: Fencing).

At some point, people figured out that grabbing the crossbar was more comfortable and more precise. So additional protections needed to be added to the top of swords (finger-rings / sweepings).

The full anatomy of the Rapier is astonishing. Every part of the weapon serves a purpose.

Even then, Rapiers were mostly status symbols for the rich. Weapons of War were far more simple and practical. (Well... not always: Landsknechte Zweihander == lulz. They probably discontinued that weapon because it was too expensive, heavy, and unweildly. But man, what an awesome looking sword )

<comment><USER5> Zweihanders/montantes/whatever you wish to call them were extremely effective and not nearly as heavy as you might think. In general, even the largest swords didn't weigh much more than about three kilograms (and thus were lighter than rifles and some polearms), and the hands were far enough apart that you had enough leverage to move quickly. If you poke around on youtube for people sparring with such weapons you'll see that they're as quick as most other swords (and have an advantage in reach).

On the article itself, while it's a nice list, it perpetuates some myths about the weapons in question (e.g. that katana was in someway superior to western swords -- high quality specimens on either side would probably be pretty closely matched), and has some fairly glaring admissions (e.g. the yari (Japanese spear) which was one of the most common weapons among footsoldiers for a good deal of Japan's history).

<comment><USER4> Agreed for the most part.

I guess Zweihanders were ultimately still "too short" for real warfare though. Practically speaking, by the late 1500s or so, people only used Halberds and Polearms (ie: English 18-foot Pikes and whatnot). So perhaps it is more accurate to say that Zweihanders were not "unwieldy enough". In any case, Zweihanders only saw use in a period of one century or so... from the late 1400s through the mid 1500s.

With that said, Pier Gerlofs Donia's Zweihander was 6.6kg (~15 lbs) and 2.15m (7 feet) long. Zweihanders definitely could go above and beyond 3kg.

As far as Yari, yes, that is the most glaring omission in the article. Fortunately, the Naginata (arguably a kind of Yari) has representation.

<comment><USER5> Assuming the sword attributed to him is actually a war sword (not a ceremonial one), and noting that he was apparently superhumanly strong and large...

As for the disappearance, I think it had more to do with improving firearms making heavy armoured shock troops impractical, and armies becoming much larger things mostly composed of musketeers with relatively limited training (rather than the smaller armies of very well trained professionals like landsknechtes). The pike disappears fairly soon after, when infantry switch to using bayonets to ward off cavalry.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> A fantastic graphic novel that covers these and others (such as the bell warden's third son's sajinrai [1] in vol. 4) is Lone Wolf and Cub, which was written by amateur Edo historians and effectively cemented them as legends of the manga community.

It is a great work which inspired many others including Frank Miller's Sin City and Ronin, and Collins' Road to Perdition. I personally think that it is on par with Watchmen (arguably the greatest graphic novel, and one that tops most lists) - certainly no other works had the same impact. Perhaps because it is in black and white, very long, and originally in Japanese, it's nowhere near as famous.

[1] "a blinding compound comprised of a mix of ferrous sand and strychnine nitrate"

</comment><comment><USER7> Some notes:

\- You may be familiar with tetsubi in the West as "caltrops."

\- I've seen yawara for sale on keychains and cell phone straps for young women.

\- The sasumata still exists today, minus the nasty barbs around the haft; every public school has one or two to be used for subduing intruders. I was (un?)lucky enough to participate in a drill once -- they did a pretty good job of subduing me and pinning me down!

</comment><comment><USER8> I shudder to think of living a life where I would have to employ weapons like these.

</comment><comment><USER4> Ancient Weapons of Japan are definitely interesting... as are weapons around the world in general!

The most interesting to me are the various non-lethal (erm... less-lethal) weapons that have been invented. The less-lethal weapons around the world give insight into the minds of Police across all ages.

Today's weapon of choice for Police is the Police Baton... which is basically a Japanese Tonfa. But seeing the Japanese Jitte, Sai, Kusarigama, Manriki- kusari, and Sasumata... you can see how Police from previous ages were focused on:

* Bashing (Tonfa, Manriki-kusari)

* Disarming (Jitte or Sai)

* Binding (Kusarigama or Manriki-kusari)

* Pinning (Sasumata)

\</comment><comment>----

Western Society had Armor (ie: Gauntlets) for catching weapons. Armor in general is also a major advantage in grappling / pinning foes. I'm not really aware of any weapon explicitly built for disarming... since a Knight could always just grab the Peasant's Sword with his gauntlet.

But the "Anti-Peasant Weapon" has always been the Mace or the Flail in Western Cultures. Both are similar in concept to the Tonfa and Manriki-kusari: smack people with a blunt object. The goal is subjugation and intimidation. Spinning weapons (Flails) are intimidating but ultimately less lethal than a Sword or Spear.

Knights and Soldier statues use swords and spears: weapons of war.

While statues of Kings and Princes are armed with Flails and Mace: symbols of "less lethal" weapons of law enforcement.

All weapons tell a story. The Kuwa (Japanese Hoe), Kama and Kunai are peasant tools... and tell a story of inventive rebellion. Seeing a master Kuwa or Kama fighter says that "anyone can fight, even lowly farmer peasants... even with farm tools"

Much like Pitchforks and Torches, except Japanese Martial Artists have honed the peasant weapons into a martial art in of themselves.

The Polearms tell a story of the horrors of battle. The multi-point Halberd is shaped to stop a horse (spear tip that widens to stop momentum), pull the rider off a horse (hook), and break shields (axe).

Japanese Yari are similarly diverse as western polearms. The different Yari designs give the greatest insight to warfare in Japan. (I bet you the Jumonji yari was used to stop charging horses. The massive crossbar is there for a reason).

Hozu hi Yari and Kama Yari are similar to Halberds, in that they are clearly designed for "single weapon / multiple uses".

Just some food for thought.

<comment><USER9> Disarming: Sword breakers [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrying_dagger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrying_dagger)

<comment><USER4> Interesting. And it looks almost the same as a Sai / Jitte as well.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> They didn't mention bo-shuriken[1], which is a spear-shaped throwable metal "dart". The throwing technique is in some ways similar to the way a katana is swung. A circular motion, taking the hand behind the wielders shoulder and unrolling straight in the opponents direction. As there is no rotating motion involved, these are short range projectiles. The ones I saw were top-heavy and had tail feathers. Checking the YouTube videos, some users instruct a more knife throwing grip. However, the technique explained to me was leading with the back hand side, releasing the dart from the palm[2] towards the end of the motion.

[1]: [https://www.google.com/search?q=bo- shuriken&safe=off&hl=en&b...](https://www.google.com/search?q=bo- shuriken&safe=off&hl=en&biw=1376&bih=761&site=webhp&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAmoVChMInazwoa6exwIVChUsCh0s9Q57)

[2]: [http://cl.ly/image/012R0D1W0t3T](http://cl.ly/image/012R0D1W0t3T)

<comment><USER11> It's a difficult method of throwing to learn, but if you can master it it has the advantage that you don't have to worry as much about distance to the target. With the traditional spinning throw, you need to make sure the knife will reach the target at a point in the turn where the blade is pointed toward it.

I think it's probably a much more appropriate throw for use during hand-to- hand combat. My understanding is that the shuriken was primarily intended as a weapon swordsmen could use to gain an advantage by distracting their opponents.

</comment></comment><comment><USER12> > Japan's most famous weapon needs little introduction. Japanese blacksmiths' > method of repeatedly heating and folding the steel made a katana's sharpness > and strength unique among the world's swords.

And you can stop reading here. The author probably has not done due diligence on his research.

<comment><USER13> I think that people are downvoting you because they're not sure what you're getting at or have an issue with tone, as I think I know what you are referring to here:

[http://www.thearma.org/essays/hype.htm#.Vchr7RNViko](http://www.thearma.org/essays/hype.htm#.Vchr7RNViko)

The Japanese blacksmiths' method of repeatedly heating and folding the steel was actually a way of countering the poor quality of the raw material they had, according to some other sources I've read but cannot find right now.

I assume that you didn't include this information because you know a lot about the topic and thought it was all common knowledge, but I'm not sure that it is.

<comment><USER14> So I downvoted the comment mostly because it was dismissive of the entire article seemingly for the terrible crime of ... not going out of it's way to mythbust the 'Katanas Are Just Better' trope? I think the article as a whole was interesting and even if you concede parent's point on forging (see below), the rest of the article had a lot of information.

Also is the article even wrong? The forging does create a very sharp edge (your own citation and other ARMA articles like Katana vs Longsword [1] go into this) and yes a very hard core. Yes the primary point is to remove impurities but why does the article become worthless for glossing over this, a point which is likely not interesting to casual reader looking for basic info and pictures of new weapons?

[1] [http://www.thearma.org/essays/longsword-and- katana.html](http://www.thearma.org/essays/longsword-and-katana.html)

<comment><USER12> It was perpetuating the trope actually. Not not mythbusting it.

Forging does not create a sharp edge. The micro structure that gives sharp edge is created during the heat treatment.

<comment><USER14> This seems excessively nit picky. Is the 'heat treatment' technically part of the forging? Technically no but for the layman's idea of forging it probably is ok to say yes.

Did that one line in the article perpetuate the trope? In the sense that it means 'merely wielding a katana makes one a superhuman fighter' I would say 'clearly no' but in the sense of 'katana is the coolest sword' perhaps. Did katanas have world renowned sharpness? I would say yes. World renowned 'strongness' (which can have a lot more meanings)? Notsomuch.

<comment><USER4> Damascus Steel is cooler... and probably sharper and stronger.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel)

Its basically the Katana folds, except you can explicitly see the folds between multiple kinds of steel. Damascus Steel is also the stuff of legends, because it is literally a technique lost to history (although people claimed to have reverse engineered it).

Furthermore, some evidence points that true Damascus Steel had carbon nanotubes and cementite nanowires strengthening the blade (possibly created through the unknown ancient forging process). Not bad for Steel made in the BC eras.

[http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/28/science/28observ.html?_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/28/science/28observ.html?_r=0)

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER15> Woah ... pressure points (Nardi) is the same in Tamil too ! South Indian martial art form covers the use of Nadi (pressure points/nerves) to disarm/disable opponents. I think this would have reached Japan from mainland China. Also some research and folklore suggests that Bodhidarma was in fact a Pallava Prince who went to China and spread the marital art forms. However hard evidence is quite scant esp. in India.

<comment><USER16> That is not the word "nardi." It's the name Nardi, as in Thomas Nardi, the author of a magazine article cited as a source at the end of the post.

<comment><USER15> Hmmm. I might have got over excited there! Should have become suspicious when google din't give me anything related to "Japanese + nardi"

</comment></comment></comment><comment> norea-armozel The Tekkan and Hachiwari remind me of warhammers and claymores that were used against armored opponents in European warfare. It seems once you rely on armor someone has to always figure out a way to deal with it. In Europe, it was the "spam in a can" approach that won out. The hachiwari looks more like a "peel the shell" approach. Either way it seems to be an effective approach.

</comment><comment><USER17> Very impressive. I was not aware that ancient Japanese weaponry were so...thorough.

<comment><USER18> Medieval weapons in Europe were very thorough as well but they don't talk about it as much.

</comment></comment><comment><USER19> Swords and bows are unique? Edo period is ancient?

</comment><comment><USER20> Hey guys, off-topic and forgive me beforehand but I know there was an article about ramen and soups very similar to those in that page a month ago but I am unable to find it not even in google.

If any kind soul knows the url it'll be greatly appreciated. I love japanese food in all its presentations.

Btw, that site rocks for japanese info.

<comment><USER21> A Guide to the Regional Ramen of Japan ?

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9622949](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9622949)

</comment></comment><comment><USER22> Zatoichi's cane sword is not listed.</comment>


Germany Moves Away from U.S.-Dominated IoT Standards Groups - <AUTHOR> http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/18/germany-moves-away-from-us-dominated-iot-standards-groups/?mod=ST1

<comment><USER2> It probably will be a failure just like DeMail. I have a pretty bad outlook for the future of our country.

<comment><USER3> Why?

<comment><USER4> Large infrastructure projects in Germany usually fail, projects involving the internet or technology especially so.

If there is such a thing as a most wrong stereotype, german efficiency is it.

<comment><USER5> Which is why Germany has one of the best infrastructures, both physical and electronic, in the Western world?

If there is such a thing as a most right stereotype, it's how the Silicon Valley worshiping non-Americans on HN deny the successes and strengths of their own country.

Germany is a, if not _the_ leading country in industrial standardization, and especially in the current climate most of the world will prefer to follow Germany's lead over the politically and ideologically compromised American industry.

<comment><USER6> Large public works projects are a problem in Germany.

[http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/disastrous- publ...](http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/disastrous-public-works- projects-in-germany-a-876856.html)

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> Surprised not to see comments in here about the use of international standards to fix markets in the favor of one country's exports (versus another's) and for the associated backdooring of technology and standards.

"The agencies, the documents reveal, have adopted a battery of methods in their systematic and ongoing assault on what they see as one of the biggest threats to their ability to access huge swathes of internet traffic – "the use of ubiquitous encryption across the internet".

Those methods include covert measures to ensure NSA control over setting of international encryption standards..." \- [http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq- encryp...](http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption- codes-security)

"Simultaneously, the N.S.A. has been deliberately weakening the international encryption standards adopted by developers. One goal in the agency's 2013 budget request was to "influence policies, standards and specifications for commercial public key technologies," the most common encryption method." \- [http://www.propublica.org/article/the-nsas-secret- campaign-t...](http://www.propublica.org/article/the-nsas-secret-campaign-to- crack-undermine-internet-encryption)

The Snowden leaks themselves have the GCHQ congratulating the NSA in frank terms for controlling and exporting international standards, noting how it has driven great gains for the US.

Given that Germany was one of the victims (including the companies mentioned in the article) of standards-based cryptographic subvertion - the only suprise in this article was that it took Germany this long to announce their own initiative.

One can also surmise this as an indicator that the NSA is back to the usual and that IoT standards are being actively influenced for sabotage.

</comment><comment><USER8> > For machines to communicate over the web–essentially sending data from > sensors back and forth from cloud-based servers—there needs to be a standard > software protocol.

For IoT in general, there will be very fragmented protocols.

For _industrial_ use cases, the clear winner is IEC62541, aka OPC Unified Automation [1]. There is no real alternative, so that issue is basically already settled. And from a technical point of view, its actually quite good.

[1] [https://opcfoundation.org/about/opc-technologies/opc- ua/](https://opcfoundation.org/about/opc-technologies/opc-ua/)

</comment><comment><USER9> "You knew what I was when you picked me up," said the snake as it slithered away.

</comment><comment><USER10> FWIW, they call it "Industrie 4.0": www.plattform-i40.de/

</comment><comment><USER11> W3C Multimodal Interaction standards

<comment><USER12> Not everything that needs interoperability can, nor should, use HTTP/HTML. For me, IoT includes very small devices still with only a few K of RAM, and requiring an HTTP/HTML stack in amongst everything else will just serve to push up prices and add needless complexity.</comment></comment>


Could the Enterprise beam a vampire into a house?  - <AUTHOR> http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/6723/could-the-enterprise-beam-a-vampire-into-a-house-she-didnt-have-permission-to-e <comment><USER2> This is almost as perplexing as the Buttered cat paradox:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buttered_cat_paradox></comment>


Turn your work into a game but don't tell your boss - <AUTHOR> http://itemzapp.com

<comment><AUTHOR> itemz is the epic task management app that will keep you motivated with trophies => check out teaser video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saoh9SCbqjU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saoh9SCbqjU)</comment>


Top White House Economist: AI Isn't Going to Steal Jobs - <AUTHOR> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/602722/top-white-house-economist-ai-isnt-going-to-steal-jobs/ <comment><USER2> Is this the architect of the "18F" failure (losing $16 million per year thus far)?

</comment><comment><USER3> "The world will need no more than 10-15 computers"</comment>


Migraine a 'risk factor' for cardiovascular disease - <AUTHOR> https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320783.php <comment><USER2> As someone who has been dealing with migraines since I was in my early teens, this is concerning.

I'm curious what the distinction between a risk factor and an early symptom are though. Could it be possible that migraines are just early symptoms of cardiovascular disease versus a risk factor?

Hoping someone with medical knowledge could chime in.</comment>


Ask HN: Depression at a New Startup - sad-engineer Hi HN,
I started a new job a few months ago at a startup as an early stage engineer- the first engineering hire who's still on the team. I've made some powerful, cool infrastructure. The founders have been telling me how much they appreciate my work, that I got us through the busiest time of the year with my contributions, and that I am pivotal to the team.
It's nice, but I've got this awful feeling that's set into me. I feel like life doesn't have a point anymore- even though work is going well I'm not getting the satisfaction I thought I would have. Each day when waking up early all I want to do is just lay in bed and stare at the ceiling, maybe listen to music. It's like a heavy, crushing weight and I feel like it's destroying me- sometimes I wish I wasn't here so I didn't have to feel this way.
I don't have any hobbies or friends outside of work I'm engaged with- last time I met with a friend was on my birthday a few months ago, and I haven't met them since.
At work, everyone still thinks I'm productive, but I feel like I'm working at a fraction of how effective I could be. I don't know how to get my productivity back and how to feel healthy again.
Have you ever had an encounter with depression in a startup? What did you do? How did you counteract the productivity losses? Thanks <comment><AUTHOR> Been there. It gets better.

From what you describe, you've thrown yourself into your work but you don't feel really challenged or stretched. You also seem to have devoted yourself to your work (a plus--I get it) while ignoring some areas of your life that seem important (friends, hobbies).

Balance is really a key here. Work drives us. It provides rewards that can be quantified. But it isn't everything. Make time for self-care. Take a break. Accept that stepping off the treadmill is ok (essential, in fact).

Take time. Laugh. Goof off. Focus on relaxing. The earth (and the start-up) will continue to spin without you for a few hours.

 _hug_

</comment><comment><USER2> Lack of meaningful relationships will lead to life feeling like there is no point. Work _is_ meaningful to me, to a degree, but ultimately I believe the only _lasting_ meaning comes from relationships with others. BTW, the only relationship that really stands the test of time is a relationship with our Creator.</comment>


Analytics for Everyone - <AUTHOR> https://sumall.com/

<comment><USER2> I love your web site design - very crisp!

Some friendly, unsolicited feedback from looking at your site with my biz dev glasses on would be that it took me a while to work out what problems you solve, and it looks like you do solve an awful lot of them.

Perhaps create a "why us" page, for visitors to quickly work out what you do differently from others? Or a demo video perhaps?

<comment><USER3> Came here to say exactly this. Looks fantastic, which is exactly what I'd expect from the founder of Squarespace. Took me some reading to work out the value proposition.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> Looks very interesting, how does this compare to mixpanel? Is it event based? Can you compare segmented numeric values? This has been a big limitation in mixpanel for me, you can only really do comparisons between event counts, not any numeric values that are attached.

<comment><USER5> Hi, ollysb. Mixpanel can give you a real deep dive and help you segment your visitors and users at a granular level. SumAll is a connected data platform and helps users gain insight at a broader level by allowing you to aggregate all of your relevant data in one place to see patterns and find insight through data juxtaposition.

<comment><USER6> Do you have Mixpanel on the roadmap?

Site and signup looks sweet. Will dig in later today.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> Signed up and hooked up AdWords, Analytics and Facebook in 2min for a small social builder game I'm working on (<http://www.kogama.com>). Waiting eagerly for the data to be imported. First impressions are very good and I like the angle you are attacking the analytics problem (understanding and learning from data, rather than collecting).

</comment><comment><USER8> I like how they manage to quote themselves from a TechCrunch article. "Bringing Data Together" says their CEO.

</comment><comment><USER9> That's an ubercool landing page and app interface you've got there. However, I personally felt that nothing on the homepage made me trust SumAll "instantaneously". It was only when I scrolled to the footer of the page, I saw Truste, Digicert certifications mentioned in the footer in small font size.

Though you have some testimonials in there, those never help build an outright trust. I need to be able to trust the SumAll brand before I can start integrating my third party accounts. The accounts are crucial to my business. Some that even have a financial implication.

I would strongly recommend putting a prominent message on the homepage that can help me build the trust in an instant. This would also help you achieve a better conversion rate.

<comment><USER10> hey vinny. thanks for the feedback on "trust". We have spent a lot of time focused on ensuring we handle customer data securely and have spent an inordinate amount of time on our terms of use and privacy policy (to make them readable, non-legalease and meaningful). With that said none of that helps during conversion. we should probably be more "up front" about it. I'll pass on your comments to the UX team. Thanks.

</comment></comment><comment><USER11> Now does this work like something like Google Analytics where I can create one account then manage multiple sites per that one login, or do I need to make a new account ( _with a different email_ ) for each website/client I want to use SumAll with? It looks like I currently I have to create new accounts, but I just wanted to double check if I'm missing something. If that IS the case, you should maybe look at multiple websites under one account for people like me, who want to use analytics on multiple sites without the hassle of dealing with multiple logins! Just a suggestion.

Other than that, it looks great and I can't wait to start trying it out! :)

<comment><USER10> Hey bluetidepro. After setting up a single account, you can connect multiple platforms - i.e. multiple GA accounts/profiles, multiple Facebook pages, multiple ebay/amazon/shopify/bigcommerce/twitter/paypal/etc. accounts. The SumAll focus is on Connected Data - seeing all of your data in one place.

</comment></comment><comment><USER12> I found SA quite a while back as a plugin for my shopify store. I started using them right away to track weekly and monthly sales for my store. I was really impressed with how easy SumAll was to use, but never really bothered to visit the site because they sent out gorgeous weekly emails with all the information I needed.

So finding this here is really wonderful. I'm happy to see them moving beyond just tracking sales and on to tracking me. I've hooked up my FB, Instagram, Twitter, Analytics and Shopify information for now.

<comment><USER10> Since Shopify was our first integration, Shopify merchants are near and dear to our hearts. Thanks for being there for us Brian.

</comment></comment><comment><USER13> Thanks Hacker News for featuring us! We're huge fans of your community here at SumAll. If you have any questions, fire away – or email us directly at email@example.com.

<comment><USER10> By the way, if anyone is interested in being an early user of our Bing Ads or YouTube integrations, just send an email to email@example.com and we'll set you up as an alpha tester.

</comment></comment><comment><USER14> My name's not "Maël" (in the header) :)

There is an annoying red dot on the news feed, but even if I click on it, it doesn't disappear

I have linked my twitter account but it still asks to "connect a platform to start"

[edit] It's probably because the data have not been imported yet. Maybe you should display another message, it's confusing

But it sounds interesting ! Do you plan adding a driver for Piwik ?

<comment><USER10> Hey arcatek ... a few things

1) you'll have to forgive our US-centricity. The page is choking on the special character, so sorry for getting your name wrong. awkward. Our support team forwarded the ticket to our design team. fix in process.

2) we have an unusually high amount of traffic today due to the HN mention, so imports are taking longer than normal. Your twitter data will show up. promise. thanks for the patience.

3) We didn't have Pikwik on the roadmap but I've just added it so it's on the product team's radar.

Thanks for checking us out.

</comment></comment><comment><USER15> Just some advice for the dev team: When I connected my Google Analytics account and was asked to select, I went through each section selecting the proper profiles only to find that it had only selected the last profile clicked. I was trying to bulk import profiles to no avail.

<comment><USER10> Hey jqueryin. Sorry for the design fail. We've had a few other users run into the same thing. We have a batch import mode for both GA and Facebook on the roadmap. Hasn't been spec'd yet so there isn't a timeframe, but I'll add your experience to the ticket. Thanks.

</comment></comment><comment><USER16> I love how this website looks. Super clean.

Can you differentiate this from chartio and gecko board please? :D

Thanks!!!

</comment><comment><USER17> Supreme aesthetics. Congratulations.

I really liked the "we've sent a mail" message when signing up. Nice touch.

</comment><comment><USER18> Stripe support would be awesome

<comment><USER13> We actually do support Stripe! Sorry for the confusion, we only put the top 14 services we're integrated with on our homepage; the rest you can find on our tour page. Let us know if you have any other questions!

<comment><USER18> Perfect! Thanks!

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER19> the import takes a while, I love the GUI.

<comment><USER10> Yes. We had a huge increase in traffic today due to the Hacker News mention, so imports are taking much longer than normal. Rest assured we're up, we're processing data at a furious pace and you'll get an email when the data import is done. in the meantime, thanks for the patience.

</comment></comment><comment><USER20> This looks rediculously cool and has great potential. Two minutes and I'm up and running.

I'm only hoping you keep your pricing low enough so that hobbiest who aren't doing anything mission critical with the data can stay with it long term ;-)</comment>


Show HN: Free WordPress Themes for Photographers - <AUTHOR> http://zenphotothemes.net

<comment><USER2> Well done, are these yours?</comment>


Ex-Apple executive jailed and fined for selling secrets - <AUTHOR> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30379825 <comment><USER2> This is business-as-usual for suppliers over here in China. Just yesterday I had one supplier we were quoting send a text message to one of my lead project engineers asking him for inside information on pricing for a quotation. In each of the last three years, I've fired at least one employee for kickback activity. I had one employee setup a shell company we paid $100,000 USD to it for products with about $50,000 USD in actual market value. Now, I am learning about the China court system, paid $15000 USD for a legal team to try to put his head on a platter for embezzlement, just so we can show the rest of our current and future employees in hopes they will be too scared to try this again. Sourcing in China is hard. Now, I have 4 staff accountants running around in a 15 person office, just to ensure enough checks and balances in place to keep us from getting robbed. Trust is not an option.

</comment><comment><USER3> I thought trade secrets were a civil, not a criminal, matter.

<comment><USER4> The Economic Espionage Act of 1996 criminalized the misappropriation of trade secrets:

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Espionage_Act_of_1996](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Espionage_Act_of_1996)

</comment></comment><comment><USER5> >> Investigations into his behaviour started after emails were found in which he agreed to hand over inside information in return for payment.

I'd be curious to see how exactly this occurred. The above blurb is the only mention of it in the entire (super short) article.

I'm curious for two reasons:

1) I work for a big tech company and have a technology consulting services company on the side. I'm curious to see how my outside emails may be eavesdropped upon.

2) Were those emails obtained legally? I can't imagine he was using his apple email to send the emails, does this mean they went through his personal email? If so, was this done legally?

<comment><USER6> From another article: According to the suit, Apple began its own internal investigation of Devine in April, and uncovered the trove of e-mails he purportedly sent to alleged Singaporean accomplice Andrew Ang and several Asian companies containing confidential data and instructions on how to pay his kickbacks. This occurred when Apple officials discovered a Microsoft Entourage database of Devine's Hotmail and Gmail accounts "on the imaged copy of Devine's laptop hard drive."

src: [http://www.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2010/08/17/paul-shin- devin...](http://www.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2010/08/17/paul-shin-devine-apple- manager-accused-of-1-million-kickback-scheme-heres-the-civil-suit)

Also, most employers will tell you that they can (& will) monitor any activity done on your company issued devices (laptop, phones, anything). That seems pretty standard.

<comment><USER5> Thanks.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> Greed; it gets you to the top, but it's a fickle and volatile nature can quickly spin out of control.

</comment><comment><USER8> Curious: Why weren't the Asian companies involved in the scheme prosecuted?

<comment><USER9> Probably not enough evidence, plus jurisdiction issues.

</comment></comment><comment><USER10> Steal a few million from a company, go to jail.

Steal billions from the public and cause a global financial meltdown, stay free.

<comment><USER11> This ^ may sound like a banal observation, but it doesn't make it any less true.

<comment><USER12> Or any more relevant to this discussion</comment></comment></comment>


Private key for *.xboxlive.com certificate disclosed - <AUTHOR> https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/security/3123040 <comment><USER2> Personally, this makes for funny timing. As a first-time Xbox (One) owner (who never owned any PlayStation), I was telling a friend with a PS4 how damn buggy everything seemed to be, from setup to games themselves. She said she doesn't have those problems on PS4. "Maybe you should've gotten a PlayStation!"

"Yes, but isn't Sony always getting hacked? Maybe the ideal thing would be a PlayStation that uses Microsoft's web services!"

sigh

<comment><USER3> It's always funny to me when people say that sort of thing. Highly publicized attacks/vulns are bad, but it's likely that any given thing we use is getting owned all the time.

<comment><USER4> Well when we see vulnerabilities that can be traced back to boneheaded security, it seems reasonable to have some extra concern. Like when Sony decided to roll it's own crypto implementation for the PS3 and forgot to use different random numbers in one part, leading to the root private keys for the device being broken.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> That security advisory is the longest possible way to say "Private key for *.xboxlive.com certificate disclosed." In my half-asleep mindset, I was expecting it to include the private key.

<comment><USER6> Has it changed since you read it? The title says one was inadvertently disclosed, and the first line says the one was that for *.xboxlive.com.

</comment></comment><comment><USER7> Thank goodness for revocation lists.

It's too bad -- they list "Affected Software" but they don't seem to disclose when the earliest time that xboxlive.com shouldn't have been trusted.

<comment><USER8> Certificate was disallowed from December 1st.

<comment><USER9> The current certificate that I can see on (star).xboxlive.com is valid between December 1st _2014_ and December 1st _2016_.

Is it common to issue a certificate for a year, but make it active for the previous year as well?

<comment><USER10> An Xbox One can easily sit on the shelf for 3-4, or even more, years before being sold. Not quite the typical use-case...

<comment><USER11> Using your powers of divination, given that the platform has only just had its second birthday?

<comment><USER12> Probably entrail reading, which is more applicable to the games industry than divination. That, and the 30 years of console sales patterns to draw on.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER13> And that's why you use an HSM kids!

</comment><comment><USER14> How come "Xbox" is not in the list of affected devices?

<comment><USER15> It uses Windows 10 since November 2015.

<comment><USER16> Yes, and Windows 10 was affected, just like all the other listed OSes.

However, xbox users might not be able to make the connection. Explicit is better than implicit for security announcements, I daresay.

> An automatic updater of certificate trust lists is included in supported > editions of ... Windows 10 ...

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER17> Can anyone elaborate on how this affects non-windows products? If I go to [https://developer.xboxlive.com](https://developer.xboxlive.com) I see a valid certificate, so my non-windows system trusts them. Have they revoked the old certificate?

They only mention the certificate trust list, which I believe is a hardcoded list of certificates that Windows trusts. I understand that they should remove it from there but don't they also have to revoke the certificate for non- windows systems that use the standard verification methods?

<comment><USER18> What's the certificate info? Most likely, you got a valid cert. MS can give a bit extra security for mistakes like this in their own products because they have the keys to the castle, but everyone else will have to use the normal infrastructure, most likely OCSP. But from the sound of things, you're already using the new cert.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Certificate_Status_Prot...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Certificate_Status_Protocol)

<comment><USER17> I imagine I am using the new cert. My question is that if an attacker got a hold of the past one, could I be MitM'd? They removed it from the Windows CTL but didn't mention anything explicitly about revoking it for everyone else...

<comment><USER4> Microsoft issues its own certificates, so if they add it to their own OCSP revocation list it will fail an OCSP check from any device. That said, many browsers don't do OCSP checks or will just accept a certificate if the OCSP server cannot be reached, although this was presumably an EV certificate where that attitude is less common. I'm also guessing this made it into Chrome's CRLSet (this kind of high profile EV revocation is exactly what it was designed for), so if you use Chrome you're pretty likely to be okay.

edit: Actually I just checked the Chrome CRLSet, it doesn't appear to have revocations for any certificates from "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" :(. You can turn on OCSP verification in most browsers, which should do it.

<comment><USER14> EV certificates can't be issued for wildcard domains, so probably not EV :)

<comment><USER4> :P forgot they said it was a wildcard (it was only in the title, you know).

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER19> How exactly does this happen?

<comment><USER20> It happens. Engineer goes to upgrade the cert and copies it to a file share they didn't realize wasn't locked down. There's no evidence anyone malicious got the file but it's pretty standard protocol to just assume it's tainted and get a new cert.

<comment><USER21> I wish they would say how it was disclosed. Your scenario is bad, but less bad than actually sending it out to the Internet, or some malware on a dev's machine grabbing it.

<comment><USER22> I give equal likelihood to it being malware related, to somebody moving just disabling a settings on some server that can potentially connect to the server hosting the key.

I don't think it's somebody just posting it online, or moving it.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER23> One word summary:

"Whoops!"</comment>


Shnap – Shazam for Fashion Taking on Google Lens and Pinterest Lens - <AUTHOR> https://getshnap.com/app <comment><AUTHOR> Hey guys,

Wanted to share something i've been working on for a little while now. Have you ever seen someone wearing something and you've wanted to find/buy it? Im trying to solve exactly that with Shnap

the iPhone app has just launched with Android a week away. Would love to get your feedback. Download and have play and make sure to enter into our weekly giveaway. You can win a $250 gift card to spend at a store of your choice.

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</comment><comment><USER2> What a co-incidence, just saw a Shnap ad on reddit. I'm really into visual search applications, so I'd love to take a look.

<comment><AUTHOR> wow that's amazing! we've been having great feedback from our Chrome extension which allows you to quickly find similar options and the best price on items you're shopping for whereas our iPhone app is tailored towards finding products from Instagram or the world around you</comment></comment>


Should Selling a Home Be as Easy as Hailing an Uber? - <AUTHOR> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/07/business/economy/ibuying-real-estate.html <comment><USER2> New title: "Silicon Valley Is Coming for Your House"</comment>


Pre-Launch: New platform for news reaction designs - <AUTHOR> http://nextmorningdesign.com/ <comment><AUTHOR> On invitation only, but cool concept to react to the latest news and submit an ad design to a brand.a</comment>


Dentsu CEO resigns after overworked employee commits suicide - <AUTHOR> http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/29/news/ceo-resign-employee-suicide-dentsu/index.html <comment><USER2> Great blog post here recently on Japanese work culture: [http://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/11/07/doing-business-in- japan/](http://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/11/07/doing-business-in-japan/)

"Traditionally, salarymen (and they are, by the way, mostly men) are hired into a particular company late in university and stay at that company or its affiliates until they retire."

"The employee hereby promises the company: Your first obligation, in all things, will be to your company. You will work incredibly hard (90+ hour weeks barely even occasion comment) on their behalf."

"Salarymen work large amounts of overtime, although much of it is for appearance's sake rather than because it actually accomplishes more productive work. Depending on one's company, this overtime may be compensated or "service overtime" — "service" in Japanese means "thrown in for free in the hopes of gaining one's further custom", so your favorite restaurant might throw in a "service" desert once in a while or you might do 8 hours of "service" overtime six nights a week for 15 years."

The whole post is a great read that comes from a first-hand experience.

<comment><USER3> >Salarymen work large amounts of overtime, although much of it is for appearance's sake

That's just stupid. It makes me wonder, though: is the work culture similar for ex-patriots working in Japan?

<comment><USER4> > > Salarymen work large amounts of overtime, although much of it is for > appearance's sake

> That's just stupid.

That's overtime. Almost all overtime, even in the US, is as much about the _appearance_ of working hard rather than any real gains in productivity.

I've lost count of the number of times I've been involved with or seen a startup that "crushes code 100 hours a week because we're out to win, man", with most of those late nights spent with a room full of people online shopping or on HN.

<comment><USER5> I worked at a door factory. We worked 20% overtime for 6 months. We made 20% more doors.

Works great for manual labor.

<comment><USER6> That's the thing though, it's an old-school Fordist concept that doesn't really apply to modern service/creative jobs. Time, like place, is not related to productivity anymore, modern employers need better metrics.

<comment><USER5> True. OP said overtime NEVER works. I think it works. Just differently in different fields.

I can code 80 hour weeks for a bit. Put out a ton of code. Can't do it for a month straight. But I could do manual labor overtime for a month straight.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> Dentsu is exhibit A for what's wrong with the Japanese work environment. This isn't the first time they've been responsible for an employee's suicide through overwork. This young woman's tweets before her death are pretty revealing. References to her male superior telling her that she can't hack it because she's a woman, the toxic seniority system where you can't question those above you, 20+ hour days. Just awful.

<comment><USER8> How long until people just start passively disobeying? I mean, if the choice is death by overwork or loss of career (maybe ending in death due to homelessness)...

<comment><USER9> It's already happening. There's a large population of NEETs who have withdrawn from the work force.

<comment><USER10> Doubt they withdrew after having undesired working conditions. Many just do not actively seek jobs.

<comment><USER9> There are lots of reasons people choose not to seek jobs. A person can just look at their parents, decide they don't have the fortitude or attitude to integrate into the sarariman lifestyle, and rationally opt out.

PROTIP: one can look for remote programming work in the U.S. or Europe, earn a decent living, and still engage in a NEET lifestyle. I have a steady diet of HN, anime, Perl, and reclusiveness and it works great for me.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER11> For context, from the article: "Takahashi had clocked about 105 hours of overtime in the month leading up to her death, authorities found."

Japan has a 40 hour work week and a max of overtime a person can volunteer for. In a month this limit is an additional 45 hours. An employee can agree to more overtime but the source refers to some labor safeguards that are supposed to kick in: [https://www.jetro.go.jp/en/invest/setting_up/laws/section4/p...](https://www.jetro.go.jp/en/invest/setting_up/laws/section4/page5.html)

So in essence, she worked more than double the allowed overtime (around 65 hours per week total work time).

<comment><USER12> Many Japanese companies pressure their employees to report significantly less hours than they actually work. So not only will they work you to death, they are stealing money from you along the way.

<comment><USER11> Thanks! Article definitely fails to mention this and it's an important angle to understand.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER13> If the Japanese are working so much that some a literally working themselves to death - why is their economy so bad? My guess is that a lot of that time is getting used up with unnecessary busy work rather than actual productive labor.

<comment><USER14> Several people argue that working long hours will have a negative impact on productivity.

For example if you look at EU countries, the ones with the economy in worse conditions are those with longer working hours (Greece, Italy).

<comment><USER15> Correlation doesn't imply causation. Maybe people are forced to work more because the economy is bad.

<comment><USER16> There's already plenty of evidence that working beyond 40 hours a week translates into a reduction in productivity. This is not some new, revolutionary insight; it's old news yet so many people and organizations ignore it at the cost of efficiency. The 40 hour work week is not just for your sake, but it's in the company's interests as well. I could be wrong but a lot of the data from was from WWII. When your country's survival is on the line, most civilians will be very motivated to work as much as possible producing municitions and war machines. Some researchers measured productivity vs work hours during this time and they found a certain point where productivity just plummets.

Unfortunately these are the only links I can find given 2 min and I don't believe that they cite WWII research:

[http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2014/12/working-...](http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2014/12/working- hours)

[https://eh.net/encyclopedia/hours-of-work-in-u-s- history/](https://eh.net/encyclopedia/hours-of-work-in-u-s-history/)

[https://medium.com/building-asana/work-hard-live-well- ead679...](https://medium.com/building-asana/work-hard-live-well- ead679cb506d#.zijtmile4)

(What I like about Dustin's post is that he mentions that you can have a boost in productivity if you work longer hours temporarily like say for two weeks. Beyond that, there's no gain in productivity and most often there's actually a net loss)

<comment><USER17> I would dangerously extrapolate that it's not just productivity that suffers, but also correctness. Anecdotally I made more mistakes and was off mark the longer I extended myself.

<comment><USER16> Yeah that's accounted for as part of productivity as defined by the researchers. Still it's a good point since I didn't mention it.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER18> I filmed this clip of the Dentsu HQ almost 10 years ago:

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWX6-- sQtsA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWX6--sQtsA)

In it, you see how all the lights automatically turn off at 10 PM. You can judge how many offices still have workers in them by the lights being turned back on.

<comment><USER19> Kind of sad people think they have to work past 10 PM, just to bump up their company image and bosses bonuses. This is what slave labour looks like in the 21 century.

</comment></comment><comment><USER20> How does this reconcile with the difficulty of firing people? I've heard they have rooms where people just come in and watch tv all day because a company doesn't want to fire them.

So how can people feel a need to work 100hrs?

<comment><USER21> Lack of career mobility has been cited nunerous times of why their is this problem exists to begin with.

It is very difficult if not impossible to move one company to other mid- career, especially past certain age (job listing in Japan may _can_ list upper age limit), as Japanese hires are very focus on graduates on given year.

One reason is because it is not easy to fire people, one wouldn't find opportinities elsewhere, so they are often forced to put up with their situations without much controls.

People who get sent to those "do nothing" room (they call it many ways to sounds politically correct, things like "career development department") are those company wishes to fire. There are scandals on these time to time, but instead of letting them watch TV all day it usually consists of meaningless tasks or simply forbidding to do anything to force them quit voluntary, but these are certainly newsworthy extremes.

I will omit reasons for long hours as these are discussed elsewhere in other threads.

</comment></comment><comment><USER22> That's sad, especially since most of the extra hours are busywork and peer pressure from what I've read.

What happens in Japan if you put in a simple 40-hour week, do good work, and then leave at the end of the day? I also understand their government makes it very difficult to fire employees. And I can't imagine they'd reassign you to watch the paint dry if you're actually doing good work. Would you mainly miss out on promotions?

Is it just a social thing, or is it economic? Since it's harder to fire people in Japan, there's a lot of risk to hiring a new employee. So maybe the culture helps weed out uncommitted people, which helps derisk hires? Or, to a certain extent, lets you get more productive hours out of them.

<comment><USER23> >Is it just a social thing

The little I know about Japan is from Anime, books, articles and online comments.

In Japan, leaving before the boss is distasteful. Also, going home early instead of socializing after work is frowned upon even by one's spouse.

I've also read that there's no job hopping. Employee for life is still a thing there. And an ex-employer's comment is heavily weighted by prospective employers.

Additionally, loyalty is highly valued, probably more than ability.

This Wikipedia article is a good summary of Japanese work environment - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_work_environment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_work_environment)

<comment><USER24> > In Japan, leaving before the boss is distasteful

My personal management policy is I get in before and leave after all my employees incase they need me and to show them that I am there for/with them (within reason - if someone is putting a really late night I may leave first).

The idea of not leaving before the boss leaves is weird to me. I get higher pay and more stock options, why should I be leaving early when my team is working their butt's off?

Edit: I realize this could be taken as a ploy from me to get the team to work more hours. But I also don't shame employees for leaving before me. It's not a contest. If they get their work done they shouldn't feel guilty leaving at 5:00.

<comment><USER25> _If they get their work done they shouldn 't feel guilty leaving at 5:00._

If they get their work done, should they feel guilty leaving at 3:00?

<comment><USER26> My experience is, there's always more work to be done if you finish your tasks early.

<comment><USER27> Yeah, you can always do some of tomorrow's goals, and continue until you hit some more difficult problem, at which point your work in advance will let you spend more time working on that problem.

People who don't like what they do won't do this, of course.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER28> I gather that Japan has an ageing population and therefore issues with underemployment among older people. Spreading out the work among more people seems logical.

In some ways, I admire the French approach to work/life balance.

</comment><comment><USER29> No wonder Japan's birth rate is falling. Who in their sane mind would want their children's to have a difficult life. High time for Universal Basic Income.

<comment><USER30> Japan has a serious problem that would prevent that: who would pay? They already don't have enough to pay for current subsidies.

</comment></comment><comment><USER31> Looks like Japan might be the best place to start a company. People never quit, work long hours, does not have life outside work.

</comment><comment><USER32> This is an interesting difference compared to Denstu Aegis (which I worked for) which has been pushing from the top a lot of "Work-Life balance" principles.

</comment><comment><USER33> Do I read this right, 105 hours of _overtime_ implying a 145 hour work week (if accounting for a regular 40 hour week)?

<comment><USER8> Over one whole month, so that's more like 61 hours per week. Which, judging by the rest of the comments in this thread, isn't unexpected for a Japanese white collar worker.

<comment><USER34> >Over one whole month, so that's more like 61 hours per week.

How many of us know people in North America who are putting in those kinds of hours? You know, gotta "go the extra mile" for the startup, and all.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER35> Suicide seems a bit extreme. Could she not just quit? Also everyday people commit suicide. Why do we blame CEOs for that?

<comment><USER36> And never have another job again?

<comment><USER37> And? Is that any reason to kill yourself?</comment></comment></comment>


Huawei hid business operation in Iran after Reuters reported links to CFO - <AUTHOR> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-iran-probe-exclusive/exclusive-huawei-hid-business-operation-in-iran-after-reuters-reported-links-to-cfo-idUSKBN23A19B <comment><USER3> This is why Canada detained Huawei's CFO Meng Wanzhou. I'm also guessing this news is why Telus, a major Canadian telco, just dropped Huawei for its 5G rollout and went with Ericsson instead. This is in line with other Canadian telcos and I believe the rest of the Five Eyes as well. Although didn't the UK flirt with Huawei for a while there?

<comment><USER4> How exactly does US sanctions restrict/constrain a Chinese or any other nationality company from doing business with Iran? Do China have sanctions on Iran?

<comment><USER5> Meng was arrested for fraud for the claims she made to banks as part of the sale of HP servers to Iran. She knew it was illegal, so she lied to cover it up so the banks would transfer money to Hauwei. This is the US.. fraud is a crime. If you or me went into a bank and lied to get a loan, you would get arrested too.

Meng wasn't arrested for selling goods to Iran. The truth is Huawei is free to sell to Iran. But action have consequences... and if Huawei wants to sell to Iran, the US isn't going to help them do it. They can't use our banks, buy our equipment, or sell their goods here. They can make a choice: do business with Iran or do business with the US. That's their free choice to make.

Huawei is upset because they want to sell to Iran, but still do business here. They don't like the consequences of their actions. They want to force the US to engage in commerce that we've decided we don't want to engage in.

<comment><USER4> From report it looks like it was the HSBC bank which was involved, and it looks like the banking transactions was executed in Hong Kong. But it isn't an US or Canadian bank, how does the rest of the argument follow?

<comment><USER6> As I understand it, it follows because HSBC and has a major US presence and is therefore subject to US banking restrictions. It makes sense if you consider that the money from the sale, once it enters the HSBC system could easily flow back to the US.

There's also the matter that it was American equipment being sold and Huawei would have also needed to lie to the US government when the equipment was exported.

This is more difficult to get a foreign government to extradite for since there is a doctrine (at least in Canada, but I believe also in other western countries) that it would have needed to be a crime in Canada for the offence to be extraditable (Canada did not have Iran sanctions at the time).

Thus, the extradition case _so far_ has focused on the fraud of misrepresenting oneself to the bank. Certainly a crime in Canada.

<comment><USER7> Sure, but I find it difficult to justify that this should be tried in a US court under control of the US government, for a crime between two non-American actors outside the United States.

The fact that it was about selling US equipment seems to be completely orthogonal to the crime (which is fraud), as it is not illegal for a non-US citizen outside the US to sell American goods bought to another non-US actor.

The fact that Huawei would have to lie to the US government also seems orthogonal as Huawei did not lie to the US government, and if it did then Huawei would be liable.

This simply seems to me like the US trying to impose it's power over foreign transactions.

<comment><USER6> HSBC has a United States banking license, employs tens of thousands of Americans (in America) and is traded on the New York Stock exchange. Thus it (a) has to abide by US finance laws and (b) is afforded some US protections.

If having ones head office overseas would provide immunity from US laws it wouldn't be a very effective system would it? :-)

>Huawei did not lie to the US government

That remains to be seen (as I understand it - maybe you have evidence to the contrary?), but I can't imagine how they would export so much equipment without doing so.

>This simply seems to me like the US trying to impose it's power over foreign transactions.

I agree to an extent. But since everyone (especially banks) need to do business in the United States it's unavoidable.

<comment><USER7> In that case, HSBC should be held liable for damages and should sue the party in order to recover them. If they cannot recover damages in that jurisdiction then they should either stop operating there or stop operating in the US.

It's pretty much indefensible to me that someone that has nothing to do with the US operating outside the US would be tried in the US for a crime they allegedly commited elsewhere.

<comment><USER6> >In that case, HSBC should be held liable for damages

I've no love for HSBC (at all) but in this instance it appears they are the victim of fraudulent representations made by Huawei.

Your "solution" proposes prosecuting not only an _innocent_ party, but one of the _victims_? That's an ... ummm ... _interesting_ take.

<comment><USER7> Well no, that is not my solution. That is the only ethical way the US could enforce sanctions. The solution would be to put the Iran deal back up, but I digress.

Yes, there is absolutely no way of enforcing sanctions without prosecuting innocent parties. The only way that the US can get foreign banks not to deal with Iran is by punishing them, even if they were the victims of fraud, the bank would then have to decide if they want to continue operating in the US and try to recoup their losses by going after the fraudster, not operate in the jurisdiction of the fraudster if that is impossible, or not deal with Iran at all (in which case a competitor will). Otherwise, they can also stop dealing with the US.

<comment><USER8> >even if they were the victims of fraud, the bank would then have to decide if they want to continue operating in the US and try to recoup their losses by going after the fraudster

So you're proposing that the government shouldn't prosecute fraud criminally, and it should be up to the banks go after the perpetrators in civil court instead?

<comment><USER7> No, I think that the local government where the fraud happened should pursue criminal charges if appropriate, not the US government.

You can be suef in civil and criminal court at the same time.

<comment><USER8> How does this square with jurisdictions that don't enforce those laws because the crimes benefit them? Should russian cybercriminals who victimize americans be allowed go to whatever country they please, knowing that they won't be prosecuted in their home country (because the government turns a blind eye to their activities), and can't be prosecuted/extradited in whatever country they travel to?

<comment><USER9> In this case neither perpetrator nor victim of the fraud appear to be US entities, so your example of Russian cybercriminals victimizing Americans doesn't exactly apply. Unless the country requesting the extradition of said Russian from Canada is, dunno, Australia, for some unrelated beef they have, using the crime against Americans as a convenient excuse.

<comment><USER8> But in this case, the US entity is being victimized. Specifically, they were tricked into violating US sanctions, which can carry criminal penalties for them. I guess you argue that we can simply decriminalize this for the US entity, but that opens a huge loophole for bypassing sanctions. Say you're china and you want to buy some American semiconductors (which are currently banned from being sold into china). All you need to do is set up a company in Russia, buy the semiconductors, promise that they won't be later transferred into china (wink wink), then import it into china.

<comment><USER4> Bank may not be an US entity is what it appears. Also the bank is supposed to do due diligence. Careful reading of the judgement, indicate that none of the liabilities from the transaction are possibly active, ie, all payments have been made and the matter closed, with no issue of defaults, etc. The question being considered is the 'risk of reputational damage to the bank', which does it sound like a criminal matter?

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> Funny how easy it is for "independent" reporters to find financial malfeasance goldmines when it is in the interest of US military leadership.

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Daily white collar crime? Panama papers? i sleep

Manufacturing consent for endless war with Eastasia? REAL SHIT

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"China's foreign ministry said the United States was politicizing economic and trade issues, which is not in the interest of Chinese or American firms."

Hard to disagree.

<comment><USER11> Problem is that most if not all of the tax evasion, money laundering and white collar crime happening today is being done so 100% legally.

Also prosecutors seems to not have much success in the courts at getting criminal charges to stick. Hence why they favour settlements or civil charges.

<comment><USER10> "Legally" is an empty word when we are talking about US foreign policy, unfortunately.

<comment><USER12> So your point is that US is evil/lawless when it comes to FP and other nations aren't? So how do you feel about China's militarization of the South China Seas and debt trap diplomacy of poor African nations via the Belt and Road Initative? Powerful nations all became powerful nations by being dicks. The same works with politics, corporations, org charts, and all other power structures in nature.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER13> I think it's amazing that out of all the things Huawei has been accused of doing the thing that got them officially in trouble is reselling _American_ servers.

<comment><USER14> It wasn't ever going to be IP theft, corporate espionage or anything like that. The CCP has made it clear they have no will to enforce anything like that. Most likely, most of Huawei's behavior is state sanctioned anyways. They have close but opaque connections to the government, and China has been known to support domestic industries with government actions.

Pretty much the only way they were ever going to be punished is if they did something like this.

<comment><USER9> > The CCP has made it clear they have no will to enforce anything like that.

Could you point me to an official statement to that effect? Patent infringement lawsuits in China definitely paint a different picture: foreign companies are more likely to win and awarded higher damages than Chinese companies: [https://patentlyo.com/patent/2018/02/things-infringement- lit...](https://patentlyo.com/patent/2018/02/things-infringement- litigation.html)

<comment><USER15> "Could you point me to an official statement to that effect?" LMAO - are you for real? That article still doesn't exactly paint a rosey picture - <USER2> that's if you can believe the numbers they release. If they are willing to lie substantially about something as serious as a virus do you seriously think they are going to be 100% transparent about something that could wreak their economy?

<comment><USER9> Those are not "numbers they release". They are statistics collected by a researcher who read court proceedings of 1663 patent infringement cases decided in China in 2014. (EDIT: Originally said "all" cases and "between 2014 and 2018". As virtue3 points out below, that was incorrect). It's not something that can be manipulated by just changing a number in a spreadsheet.

<comment><USER16> See Chao Ma, Xiaohong Yu & Haibo He, Data Analysis: Report on the Publication of Chinese Judicial Decisions on the Internet, China Law Review 12(4), 2016: 208. (Table 10 lists the ratios of the number of judicial documents of each province publicly available on CJO to the number of cases adjudicated in each province, ranging from 15.17% to 78.14%.)

So cherry-picked cases that range from 15-78% of the data set.

1.6k patent cases over multiple years seems -extremely- low to me. The USA has roughly 3-4x that per year. [https://law.stanford.edu/wp- content/uploads/2016/07/Revised-...](https://law.stanford.edu/wp- content/uploads/2016/07/Revised-Stanford-August-4-2016-Class-Presentation.pdf)

<comment><USER17> Doesn't the US have a huge problem with IP trolls? It's really hard to get an accurate figure when the US can just issue IPs like it's no one's business and can to go to court to dispute these equally as easily. At least here in Europe, it's a lot more difficult to file for patents, I've not found any conclusive numbers, but if you can extrapolate from these numbers here I would say that the US is the outlyer rather than the norm [https://www.simmons- simmons.com/en/publications/ck0d2ofe9u6d...](https://www.simmons- simmons.com/en/publications/ck0d2ofe9u6dh0b8588o5p7om/080218-how-much-patent- litigation-is-there-in-europe-other-countries)

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER18> Suppose Tim Cook's daughter was arrested in Thailand for Apple's alleged breach of China's sanctions against Saudi Arabia.

How would you Americans feel about that?

<comment><USER19> > Suppose ~Tim Cook's daughter~ _the CFO of Apple_ was arrested in Thailand > for Apple's alleged breach of China's sanctions against Saudi Arabia.

The CFO of the company is responsible for the company's financial behavior, being the daughter of the founder does not exempt her.

<comment><USER20> The CFOs of Banco do Brasil, Bank of America, Bank of Guam, Bank of Moscow, Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi, Barclays, BNP Paribas, Clearstream Banking, Commerzbank, Compass, Crédit Agricole, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, ING, Intesa Sanpaolo, JP Morgan Chase, National Bank of Abu Dhabi, National Bank of Pakistan, PayPal, RBS (ABN Amro), Société Générale, Toronto-Dominion Bank, Trans-Pacific National Bank, Standard Chartered, and Wells Fargo enter the chat.

[https://archive.is/kyKGf](https://archive.is/kyKGf)

<comment><USER19> That may very well be the case, it does appear to be selective enforcement - but the comment I was responding to made it sound as if the person arrested was merely related to the CEO, when she is in fact the CFO.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER21> China is holding two innocent Canadian diplomats in poor conditions while Canada does what a modern nation does and allow The CFO a presumption of innocence. She gets to stay in a mansion. Those two Canadians may never see their families again.

This extradition better be worth it. If the US frees her as some political pawn I'm going to lose my shit.

<comment><USER22> Shouldn't Canada be using its own diplomatic capabilities to get them freed?

Oh, wait. There's money involved. Never mind.

<comment><USER21> Our government is trying. But we have to be realistic: Canada doesn't have much power.

<comment><USER23> It lacks will, it has tons of things it can do. Meng is not the only one with mansion in Vancouver.

<comment><USER24> Canada is really playing this game badly, if they piss of India next they won't have much of an economic future as a country very soon.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER25> This corporate malfeasance seems pretty tame in comparison to what US multinationals regularly get away with. For example, no one has been arrested from Boeing.

<comment> munk-a This is because you folks down south have tanks - and that's the same reason our PM had 21 seconds of silence when, if we were talking about a press crackdown in a third world nation, he would have spoken up immediately. Good old might makes right.

<comment><USER26> You have to be joking, right? You seriously think that the 21 seconds of silence was US censorship? If the US had that kind of power then perhaps that same PM would not have casually praised a Central American dictator upon their death.

<comment><USER27> It was self-censorship.

<comment><USER28> I watched it earlier. I think it was 1/3 self-censorship, 1/3 _a display_ of self-censorship, and 1/3 of carefully choosing the words before speaking. Overall, brilliant.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER20> This was the entire premise why Canada held Meng Wanzhou no? I don't see any new information surfaced in this article from what was already publicized in 2018.

Seems like it's just a chance to re-broadcast a headline for another news cycle.

<comment><USER29> I believe Canada held her because an extradition treaty with the US required them to do so.

</comment></comment><comment><USER30> I don't know why Canada has an extradition treaty with the USA. Hostage-taking for the USA doesn't always work well apparently.

</comment><comment><USER31> Good. US sanctions on Iran are violations of international agreements, decency and a treacherous renege on the Nuclear Deal.

</comment><comment><USER32> The Canadian court ruled she has broken Canadian law and hence extradition is on. Not seems to mention in the discussion so far.</comment>


This could be your fate if you don't do a startup - <AUTHOR> http://valleywag.com/tech/cubicle-culture/yahoos-recruitin-rapper-289869.php welcome to the crushing grind of mediocrity, yahoo! style.
<comment><USER2> Sorry folks: this is hilarious. I love it.

Perhaps you'd like to make a competing rap about your place of work? What's the phrase I'm thinking of for the folks at VallyWag? strap on some plums.

I wonder if a reaction to this can be considered a Rorschach test for how much you actually support user generated content :-P

</comment><comment><USER3> Google has loads of stuff just like this going on, too. Last time I was there (my girlfriend works there, so I'm there every couple of weeks), they had an intern talent show going on at the main cafe. During the company picnic they did the same thing. "Googley Blues" was the winning performance...it was fun and well-done. Most performances, however, were in the same class as this rap. Silly, poorly done, just about exactly what you would expect from a nerd rapping.

It's stupid to pick on Yahoo for an employee having some fun. Thinking back, there was an all-office video from the College Humor/Busted T's folks, that everybody here LOVED. But when Yahoo brings it, they catch flack. It's just people being catty. Have fun. Get over your too-cool-for-school selves.

</comment><comment><USER4> He looks like Kim Jong Il:

<http://www.foxnews.com/images/229818/0_63_kim_jongil.jpg>

</comment><comment><USER5> Any chance to see this on YouTube? I learn from this that jumpcut doesn't work very well...

</comment><comment><USER6> I'm eagerly awaiting the Google response.

</comment><comment><USER7> plz tell me this is parody

<comment><USER3> Of course it's a parody.</comment></comment>


Ask HN: Feeling bad about potentially leaving a job early - <AUTHOR> I'm not sure that I'd say my dream career is software development but that is what I'd rather do for a living. I like learning and solving things. Doing new things in general. I currently work for some clients while also working part time at a restaurant.
I don't know it suddenly occurred to me like "Why did I stop looking?" I needed to get hired immediately so I went with dish washing because it's a low-entry barrier job so I got hired within 2 days but the job is a waste of time as far as learning things.
So I've recently started to work here for about a month now, established my "persona" and this week I'm scheduled for 6 days (hahaha) I was fine with 3 days or so because I do contract work (prefer). I can't help but feel bad as I fill out the hired form. At the same time ultimately the truth is I am wasting time, I could be learning/gaining more credentials working for web/tech field.
I will do the 2 weeks notice but yeah I can't help but feel bad. <comment><USER2> I would only work this schedule, just tell them something came up and you can't work after this schedule.

Opportunity cost. It's costing you more in lost learning and opportunities than working there.

It is good experience to work in food service so you appreciate that it's hard and low pay and you will treat those who work in that industry.

But definitely get out of there and keep learning, making more per hour doing what you love.

Caveat here is do you make more doing contract work and are getting paid regularly to take care of your expenses? If so definitely get out of there after this week.

If you're just getting started contracting and don't have paying clients consider telling them you can only work 3 days per week.

Good luck.

<comment><AUTHOR> I was "instantly" denied by Hired hahaha. I was curious why every option was "... engineer" like "Full stack engineer" "Front end engineer". Not bad mouthing Hired. I am still quite a novice and not an expert in fields. I suppose it's good not to burn bridges. Just scream out loud "I QUIT!!!" and then have to return the next day so...

I'm just lucky I'm working for some people but man I do feel behind with things like Docker/Containers, Go, web workers, etc... Things I hear/read about and I'm not using. Of course I'm not dealing with "25,000 requests per second" or anything crazy like that.

It does suck when you become dependable and one day you might have to be like "I have to go." Still I am in a highly-expendable position as a dishwasher.

Thanks

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> Recalling that Andy Kaufman kept a part-time job as a bus boy> [https://youtu.be/oJrrKhBkDBQ](https://youtu.be/oJrrKhBkDBQ)

Do right by your boss, give appropriate notice. No need to burn a bridge. He is likely accustomed to seeing good people come and go.

<comment><AUTHOR> Yeah it's an awkward experience in the future when you run into someone that you "did wrong by". Like "Oh... hello... how are you?..." that awkward feeling.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> at the risk of sounding harsh, do you have any savings? how much experience under your belt, presumably if 3 days a week contracting is not enough to feed you and keep the lights on then you are probably just starting out.

build up a pile of cash until you are self sufficient for 2-3 months, then go ahead and innovate/learn what you want.

for now , no point in you quitting today only to come back in 2 weeks looking for the same "low-end" jobs.

Do it properly, it takes more than just learning how to create a "to-do" app with X/Y framework to get a good paying job in the field.

<comment><AUTHOR> Even looking for a "professional position" in web dev, I don't know. I would rather build a service/product and multiply my time. Doing the whole hourly thing doesn't seem like the right way to go.

Yeah definitely about the savings part, I don't and I have a big debt to deal with (student loans). It does suck when you get paid quite a lot relatively and then it's gone and you're like "Oh crap... I am still broke."

</comment></comment><comment><USER5> My guess is that it happens all the time in jobs like this - like you said they're often something that people do to pay the bills until something better comes along.</comment>


CBS Sports Opens Site to App Makers - <AUTHOR> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203721704577159270507577072.html

<comment><USER2> I'm building my first app. It's very easy to get started.

here is better summary of what's in it for developers [http://sportology.us/2012/01/cbs-sports-offers-fantasy- platf...](http://sportology.us/2012/01/cbs-sports-offers-fantasy-platform- potentially-significant-development-for-fantasy-sports/)</comment>


Sh*t Entrepreneurs Say - <AUTHOR> http://grasshopper.com/blog/2012/01/sht-entrepreneurs-say-video/

<comment><USER2> Startup guys is still my favorite: [http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6507690/hardly-working- sta...](http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6507690/hardly-working-start-up- guys)

</comment><comment><USER3> The original "Shit xyz says" are funny because you know people who actually say those things - i.e. my girlfriend has done 90% of the things in shit girls say.

In this you have basically the comic book guy from the Simpsons saying a bunch of buzz words and phrases that wanna-be entrepreneurs might say.

Title should be something like "Shit bad entrepreneurs say"

<comment><USER4> I think that is actually the point?

<comment><USER5> I think the funnier ones are the truest. This one is more caricature than anything.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> I feel vaguely manipulated by this because it is really just a viral video for the site hosting it. :-\

</comment><comment><USER7> I liked Shit Silicon Valley Says more: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8zFANeBGQ>

<comment><USER8> "Netflix for youtube" could totally get into YC under the "Kill Hollywood" category!

</comment></comment><comment><USER9> I just love it! One of my friend is doing exactly the same all time! gonna share it :)

</comment><comment><USER10> When I hear people say this stuff in real life, it makes me worry for them, because wanting to "make it big" is usually not the main driver of success.

</comment><comment><USER11> Add this for an idea: "Like Apple but 5 years ahead."

</comment><comment><USER12> Wasn't this already done?

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8zFANeBGQ>

<comment><USER13> The last bit about something being posted and tweeted automatically kind of made me nauseous.

</comment></comment><comment><USER14> Allan Branch is poised to become the next big comedic superstar! His personality really makes this video work. Funny stuff!

<comment><USER15> It's true that, given enough eyeballs on the freemium content, his Comedic MVP is poised to go viral and kill Facebook.

</comment></comment><comment><USER16> I hate the way idiots refer to you as 'my team' or worse, 'your team'.</comment>


Waymo tests AI driving system that learns from labeled data - <AUTHOR> https://venturebeat.com/2018/12/10/waymo-tests-ai-driving-system-that-learns-from-labeled-data/ <comment><AUTHOR> Original Medium post: [https://medium.com/waymo/learning-to-drive-beyond-pure- imita...](https://medium.com/waymo/learning-to-drive-beyond-pure- imitation-465499f8bcb2)

ArXiv link: [https://arxiv.org/abs/1812.03079](https://arxiv.org/abs/1812.03079)</comment>


Djikstra's concurrent; A* pathfinding bots in Minecraft - <AUTHOR> http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/37yiye/bot_with_pathfinding_ai_that_autonomeously/

<comment><AUTHOR> Actual title is:

"CommandBlock[::] Bot with PathFinding AI that autonomeously switches between three Algorithms: Dijkstra's Concurrent, semi-A* and a simple Chase algorithm, all compatible with 3d terrain, collision detection & easily configurable search radius - More info in comments (gfycat.com)" which obv is more than 80 chars.

I'm submitting this because if you haven't played Minecraft for a while you might have missed out on the whole "command block" thing.

[http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Command_Block](http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Command_Block)

These have brought scripting to vanilla minecraft. Some people are doing nifty things -- some nice creative mode stuff, all the way upto complex minigames.</comment>