What the media must do to fend off an election-night disaster - <AUTHOR> https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/heres-what-tv-news-must-do-to-fend-off-an-election-night-disaster/2020/09/04/c94cee50-ed1c-11ea-b4bc-3a2098fc73d4_story.html <comment><USER2> AFAIK there is a significant (>=5%) chance that the election night totals will show a conclusive win for the incumbent, but the eventual complete tally will show the opposite. This has the potential to cause a lot of confusion in the immediate aftermath of election night. Whether there will be undemocratic moves by the incumbent or otherwise in the time between election night and the final count is obviously a matter of speculation, but given the mercurial temper of the country I worry about how the nation at large will react to such confusion.

<comment><USER3> Except for 2000 which was an anomaly, and perhaps Truman vs. Dewey, can you point to a Presidential election in modern times that suddenly flipped overnight for the other candidate? I would say there's a < 5% chance of that happening now, unless there is corruption.

<comment><USER2> Perhaps you could do some research on the amount of time it will take to count mail in ballots and the relative difference between likelihood of mail-in voting for both parties.

Or maybe your superficial response is correct, and there is nothing exceptional about this election, and COVID-19 will no longer be a concern, tomorrow?

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER4> The article is focused on the "disaster" of the media saying the election came out one way, and the election actually turning out the other way after late or mail-in ballots are counted.

The solution the article gives, in maybe too many words, is just "don't jump the gun about who won."

There is really not much to see here.

<comment><USER5> Is that not what the modern media is incentivized for? The 24 hour news cycle and clickbait headlines. More eyeballs = more ad dollars

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> Archived post: [https://archive.is/tqszq](https://archive.is/tqszq)

</comment><comment><USER7> What the media should do is stop their political agenda painting a picture for what they want their viewers to think.

Look at what happened in 2016. Democrats were sure they would win. And look at what happened.

But they won't learn. It's greed and agendas. I can't imagine what's going to happen as Trump challenges Biden to a debate, how that debate will go, what the media will report, and how it will be an all out media and political war until a winner is declared after election night.</comment>


They Used Smartphone Cameras to Record Police Brutality–and Change Histor - <AUTHOR> https://www.wsj.com/articles/they-used-smartphone-cameras-to-record-police-brutalityand-change-history-11592020827 <comment><AUTHOR> Available without paywall at: [http://archive.vn/AVwHK](http://archive.vn/AVwHK)</comment>


On Nextdoor, the Homeless Are the Enemy - <AUTHOR> https://onezero.medium.com/how-nextdoor-encourages-hate-of-the-homeless-9200475cda43 <comment><USER2> Medium is now paywalled. Please don't link to it.

<comment><AUTHOR> I was able to read the article without hitting a paywall and I am not a subscriber, so I was not aware.</comment></comment>


JQuery 1.9 has been released - <AUTHOR> http://blog.jquery.com/2013/01/15/jquery-1-9-final-jquery-2-0-beta-migrate-final-released/ <comment><USER2> For anyone making a shift from 1.7/1.8 to this, please don't overlook the jquery-migrate plugin (<https://github.com/jquery/jquery-migrate/>).

You/we don't have to suffer the headaches of "what the heck changed since the version I was using...", the jQuery overlords have really done us a great service in offering this cool migration checker - so let's use it!

<comment><USER3> that's what I got when using jquery migrate <http://i.imgur.com/nviTD.png> not that helpful, or am I missing something?

<comment><USER4> Those are warnings to let you know that you are using deprecated functionality. Everything should still work, but you'll want to switch to the updated versions soon.

Instead of $.browser, use $.support, and instead of .live(), use .on().

<comment><USER3> I get it, but I thought it would map the occurences in my code, not just list the functions.

<comment><USER4> Ah, gotcha. If you have the console open at the time when the warning is triggered, you should be able to get a backtrace by clicking on the arrow beside the warning -- that will show you whereabouts in the code the problem is.

At least that's how it works in Chrome, I think Firefox does the same.

<comment><USER3> no arrow in ff (firebug 1.11.1) nor in chromium (firebug lite).

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> Nothing too terribly exciting, but the Source Map feature, allowing easier debugging inside minified code seems very useful. Chrome only, but still an extremely slick feature:

[http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/developertools/source...](http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/developertools/sourcemaps/)

<comment><USER6> > Chrome only, but still an extremely slick feature

Only for now, fortunately! The co-authors are from Google and Mozilla[1], and work's being done to get support in Firefox as well.

[1] [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U1RGAehQwRypUTovF1KRlpiO...](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U1RGAehQwRypUTovF1KRlpiOFze0b-_2gc6fAH0KY0k/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1&pli=1)

</comment></comment><comment><USER7> Important for those who haven't heard yet: jQuery 2.0 will not support IE 6, 7 or 8.

<comment><USER8> I can understand dropping 6 and 7, but 8? That browser's not going away anytime soon.

<comment><USER9> As I understand it, JQuery 1.9 and 2.0 are supposed to be API identical so what is suggested is to offer JQuery 1.9 to sub-IE9 via conditional comments.

<comment><USER10> That's one of the ways, but you can just stick to 1.9 for all of your audience if audience includes early IEs.

jQuery 2.0 is more appropriate for mobile web-apps or for intranets, where you know that users use strict subset of browsers

<comment><USER11> Given that jQuery 2.0 is supposed to be significantly faster, parent's approach offers increased speed to users who are not on sub-IE9 browsers.

<comment><USER12> Faster how? Do you have any source? Only thing I remember from my brief scan of the release notes was that it was faster to _load_ as it was smaller (fewer browsers to support) but I don't recall anything about processing speed, happy to be proven wrong of course.

<comment><USER11> > _jQuery 2.0 will not run on oldIE. As a result of removing several layers of > barnacle-encrusted code, it will be both faster and smaller than jQuery > 1.9._

My take here is that various bits of logic have been removed which will also improve processing speed.

Of course, they may have been referring to the load speed, and the increase in processing speed may be negligible.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER13> I'm happy for the addition of the :target selector. I tried using this on a recent project before realizing it wasn't available.

</comment><comment><USER14> Be careful if you are using this link as a source:

<https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1/jquery.min.js>

A few things in this update broke a production app for us.

</comment><comment><USER15> How has everyone's experience so far been upgrading? Any speed improvements?

<comment><USER16> In theory, jQuery 2 should be a lot faster because of removed support for old browsers.</comment></comment>


Ask HN: Any "brogrammers"? - <AUTHOR> You hear that term all the time.  It's the two-dimensional catch-all for those working in tech at the jockier end.  But I'd be interested to hear if anyone actually identifies as a 'brogrammer'? Has been accused of being one?  Or can at least recognizes that they probably share the attributes associated with one?<p>It would be interesting to hear the (mis)perceptions around being a 'brogrammer', even if you don't really identify with the label. <comment><USER2> The brogrammer archetype is an interesting phenomenon in Silicon Valley, and he shares similarities with his East Coast cousin the finance/banking bro. I believe he is the product of "learned manhood" and status gained through a highly paid and respected profession.

He excelled in math and science in high school, but dedicated studying and social anxiety caused him to miss out on traditional jockery like sports, partying and getting girls. Sometime during or after college, he began applying his objective mind to solving his perceived shortcomings. He read PUA books and started dating through Tinder. He got an Equinox gym membership and lurked bodybuilding forums to learn powerlifting technique and dieting. He picked up a hobby like craft beer or playing an instrument. He spends his software engineering salary on travel and music festivals.

But ultimately he is not a real jock - he's still deeply insecure and feels the need to overcompensate.

</comment><comment><USER3> I've been labeled as such before, mostly because of my good looks, loud voice, and willingness to crush beers while working on things. It's possible I exude toxic masculinity, or maybe I just look like I would.

Never been "accused", so much as had the word used in an endearing way.

The wise person will note that it's possible to do all of the above and be a committed workplace egalitarian at the same time.</comment>


Show HN: Marketing Bits – Real-world marketing know-how for hackers and startups - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/orangethirty/marketing_bits

<comment><AUTHOR> Landing page: <http://orangethirty.github.com/marketing_bits/>

This project was born due to the avalanche of emails that I receive every week. From hackers and startups looking to learn how to market more effectively. Rather than answering each email independently, I chose to address the most common issues and share them with the community. Every bit of knowledge comes from my own experience developing my own startups, and from helping others develop their own. This is not the usual marketing babble, but what has worked for me and my clients. It is written in a manner that most hackers will understand. I have put a lot of effort in writing each bit as if it was a programming related article and not marketing. This to avoid all the usual marketing buzzwords that plague the industry.

I am also publishing a newsletter[1] around the articles that will include a lot more materials for you to use. I want you to subscribe to the newsletter, because you will learn a lot from it. I will not spam you, and only send you the newsletter. You will not get any annoying emails from me, or from anybody else. I will not share or sell your information. Do subscribe. I have a lot of great stuff coming out soon and I want you to benefit from them. I owe a lot to the HN community, and this is a way for me to give back in a manner that makes you money. Think of this as my own open source project about marketing.

This is all free. No need to buy anything. I was going to publish this as a book, but there is so much material to cover that in the end its just easier for all to just read it on github and/or subscribe to the newsletter. Topics include marketing, sales, copywriting and PR.

I expect your feedback. Pull requests are welcomed. Emails too.

 _Edit:_

If you have subject suggestions please include them here. I had some good ones over at the #startups IRC channel that will be addressed in the coming days. This also includes any particular answers you may want answered (like a specific problem you face). Do note that this will be published publicly. I will remove your name and/or startup name by request (but do keep in mind it will help you get free PR).

 __ __* [1]Subscribe here:<http://eepurl.com/t2tyL>

<comment><USER2> You might want to make the newsletter subscription link better visible on your landing page. Took me a few seconds to figure out the first paragraph was a clickable link.

<comment><AUTHOR> You are right. I forgot to remove the text decoration attribute on the stylesheet. This is one of githubs templates that I will use and evolve over time. Thanks for the feedback.

<comment><USER3> I still didn't get it. It looks more like a sub heading than a link.

You could use a link text color that stands out from your overall color scheme or make it some text and a call to action button.

<comment><AUTHOR> Yes, you are right. I'm changing the color tonight.</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment>


Nyan cat bookmarklet helps you destroy a webpage - <AUTHOR> http://nyan.alternative.ly

<comment><USER2> What's this weird fake AAVE lorem ipsum thing that this page links as a demo? Is the joke 'haha black people talk funny'?</comment>


Googles API examples still with Python2 - <AUTHOR> https://imgur.com/a/7lckYog <comment><USER2> Have you tried the "Send Feedback" link on the bottom of the page? That's probably a more direct way to contact them, compared to posting a screenshot on HN.

<comment><AUTHOR> I have also done that. Still strange that there is Python2 examples, when they should have migrated a long time ago.

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> This has caused nothing but issues for us when we're using miniconda or anything that used python 3 by default.

Sure I could fix it except py2 goes EOL in 3 months? What's the point?</comment>


7  Package management meta-tools: survey and state of the art - <AUTHOR> http://www.mancoosi.org/edos/manager.html

<comment><USER2> I have heard rumors that aptitude would have smarter dependency resolver than apt-get. It would be interesting to hear how it would fare in comparison.</comment>


DoGood: Replace ads with "Good Ads" - <AUTHOR> http://eu.techcrunch.com/2010/02/01/another-headache-for-web-publishers-dogooder-blocks-ads-for-a-good-cause/

<comment><USER2> A couple notes on this horrible idea (yes I run a couple ad networks).

1) Giving up 50% of their revenue to charity isn't that impressive considering if they actually paid the publishers whose content they are running their ads on they would most likely be paying 50% or more. This is like if Robin Hood kept half of the stuff he stole, wouldn't seem so noble.

2) You are essentially opting in to see these ads. Sure you might be a good target market since you wanted to see the ads, but chances are it's going to be a small and quickly saturated audience. Advertisers will most likely see a quick drop-off in results.

A much more interesting implementation would be one that continues to show normal ads (through ad networks, etc) but takes the revenue from them and gives them to charity. You could even hijack affiliate links as well and donate that to charity. I always thought it would be super evil, but interesting, for someone like Bing to sell a toolbar that displayed their own PPC ads on Google's search results and paid some of it back to the user or charity.

<comment><USER3> Some version of this can still might happen if Microsoft would be seriously threatened by Google.

If Microsoft task would be to replace each google-ad with a much more useful ad(which they probably could, since google optimized for money per ad), they could offer much better ads.

If those ads could really help people , this could have a really strong PR for the common people. And maybe Microsoft could even wrap it in some ethical claim.

<comment><USER4> > Some version of this can still might happen if Microsoft would be seriously > threatened by Google.

Hardly. I don't think Microsoft would want to play dirty with Google.

> since google optimized for money per ad

Google only gets paid if people will click on an ad. People will only click if an ad seems useful, so optimizing for money is optimizing for usefulness.

If you want the objective, not-for-money results, look in the big column on the left.

<comment><USER3> The Google optimization is more complex than utility. They optimize for clicks * revenue per click.

One example they don't optimize for - if there's a free way to achieve something , they don't show it to you.

Another - if the competition on a certain keyword is very high , you can get really high cost per click , which would push out good offers.

Another - if you can write great ad copy to lousy product.

Another - if a different way to display the products is more useful. that's the reasons google have different way of showing mortgage ads.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER4> I think the ethics is questionable, because the average DoGood user is someone who'll actually click on ads (otherwise their business-model falls apart), which denies the site-owner revenue. It's basically zero-sum: the only money DoGood will make (for their benefactors), is money that a site-owner would otherwise have made (last I checked, most money were made from clicks, not impressions).

This was tried last year by Danish AidOnline, but after an intense PR fallout, they lost almost all of their advertisers and shut down.

The PR fallout was at least partly due to their 20% administration fee, which didn't fit well in their philanthropic guise.

<comment><USER5> _the average DoGood user is someone who'll actually click on ads_

I don't know if that's necessarily the case. I honestly can't think of a single banner ad that I've ever actually clicked and followed (though there have been some that I've noticed and kept in mind for later). I think that there is a large demographic out there, possibly including myself, who who be compelled to click on ads _only_ because they realize that they are contributing towards something that they support. Personally, I don't particularly need help figuring out what to buy, but I wouldn't mind being better informed about causes I may be interested in.

This opinion, though, is not taking into account the business ethics of the service as a whole.

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> From <http://www.dogoodhq.com/publishers>:

"The DoGooder does not block ads from being served on websites. Consequently, any CPM revenue agreements you have with your ad network / servers remains unaffected- yes, you still get paid."

I wonder what that means; they don't get into the technical specifics, but I get the impression that they will simply download the ads, and replace the ads with DoGood ads as soon as they're downloaded. This might be even worse: it messes up statistics for advertisers, and in the end, it will cause your inventory's value to decrease, thus resulting in a lower CPM value. Additionally, it gives advertisers yet another reason to push for performance- based (CPC/CPA) campaigns, instead of the CPM-based campaigns used for premium content nowadays.

<comment><USER7> Yes, it seems like this will kill CTR, and distort CPM. Damaging to the publisher and damaging to the advertiser.

This makes it much worse than normal ad blocking, imo.

</comment></comment><comment><USER8> Activism and cause-fetishism is a good way to side-step people's critical faculties. If you couldn't get rational people to install your adware toolbar, reframe it: call it Green Advertising and drape it in some vague altruism, and viola.

</comment><comment><USER9> It's a nice idea. Although I use ad blocking I have no fundamental objection to advertising online. What I do object to are ads which are annoying or offensive. If I could have greater control over what type of ads are displayed, so that they're always discreet and tasteful, I'd have no need to block them.

</comment><comment><USER10> This brings an interesting twist to the question: "is blocking ads on a website denying the owner their revenue stream and therefore wrong in some way?"

<comment><USER11> How is this an interesting twist? As a website owner, it not just as bad -- it's worse, because it gives the user an additional incentive (beyond convenience) to block my ads, and feel self-righteous doing it.

<comment><USER8> Editorial ads :-)

<comment><USER11> Oh, absolutely! But that doesn't mean I want to see the Adsense/Casale revenue dry up at the hands of some opportunistic do-gooding scheme.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> Install my browser extension! Each page-load will save a patch of rainforest! :)

</comment><comment><USER13> This is one other reason why we may move to paid content with no ads...</comment>


Dell's Latest XPS 15 - <AUTHOR> https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/14/20909422/dell-xps-15-7590-2019-review-oled-core-i9-specs-features-price <comment><USER2> I had one and, like most dell laptop owners, returned it. Except I got a refund, not a replacement.

Issues many after eventually upgrading every firmware and driver:

\- on first boot the laptop was hard powering off repeatedly every n minutes, got worse over time

\- keyboard had wonky keys

\- keyboard is literally the worst keyboard I've used in 25 years

\- WiFi card is junk - disconnects and throughput issues

\- tiny amounts of load in Windows saw massive heat output that meant it isn't usable

\- idiotically overcomplicated hardware meant Linux support is terrible for the moment

\- felt flimsy and poorly constructed

The laptop business is in the worst state it has ever been. Trying to get a well specd 15" laptop that doesn't have dual GPU s is a nightmare</comment>


Hacking the CES iBeacon scavenger hunt - <AUTHOR> http://makezine.com/2014/01/03/hacking-the-ces-scavenger-hunt/

<comment><USER2> This year's CES will feature a scavenger hunt based around Apple's iBeacon technology. What if you could win the hunt, without ever having to go to CES?</comment>


#flotilla not trending? - <AUTHOR> http://twitpic.com/1sow9i

<comment><USER2> Even weirder:

<http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23flotilla>

Returns a technical error, while any other search succeeds :S

</comment><comment><USER3> I think because it's the middle of the night in the US, and people are just starting Monday work in the UK. I seriously doubt a deliberate manipulation by twitter.

<comment><AUTHOR> Agree. But aren't trending topics updated automatically? Is there reviewing taking place, for adult content etc?

<comment><USER3> I'm sure they are. what I meant was that '#flotilla' may not be trending as hard as one would normally expect because the majority of twitter's english- speaking users are asleep or just starting work around now. 6-8 hours from now, when most of the US is awake, I imagine it will be far ahead of all other stories.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><AUTHOR> some more info is provided here - [http://dowzocalypse.com/2010/05/31/flotilla-aid-murder- twitt...](http://dowzocalypse.com/2010/05/31/flotilla-aid-murder-twitter- censorship/)

</comment><comment><USER4> Also, Israel not trending, 'Israil' instead it does

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> maybe it takes some time for trending topics to get updated though</comment>


The Fractal Nature of Everything - <AUTHOR> http://www.jeddhaas.com/art/the-fractal-nature-of-everything/

<comment><USER2> A model of an atom can be likened to a solar system

Um, no. Electrons do not have well-defined trajectories. Quantum particles should not in any way be compared to classical macroscopic objects.

I love fractals and finding examples of them in nature and science, but posts like these annoy me a bit. Saying that there are fractals everywhere is a bit like saying that we don't live in the Platonic plane.

</comment><comment><USER3> Hierarchical self-similarity does seem to be ubiquitous, and a lot of people have taken this idea and run with it. I think Hofstadter's GEB is one of the crucial modern texts that inspired a lot of people in that direction. Translating these concepts into rigorous theories is difficult; attempts like Wolfram's "A New Kind of Science" haven't succeeded in creating a new discipline.

I think the deepest explanations for the layering of complex structures at multiple scales we see in the universe are being developed at the intersection of the theory of computation and quantum physics. There is a very tight coupling of entropy and information at the quantum scale, as demonstrated by physicists like the amazing W.H. Zurek. The development of quantum computers and work on the P/NP equivalency problem is where I hope to see the long- awaited breakthroughs that may enable us to understand just how math, mind, and physics are intertwined.

</comment><comment><USER4> Well I was hoping for something more developed. I thought about this stuff too, fractals seem like a good explanation for complex systems.

There seems to be a fractal pattern in how people behave that reflects the pattern of how neurons behave. Neurons silence each other as much as they connect to each other. The loudest neurons, the ones that can silence the most neighboring neurons and connect to more distant loud neurons have the biggest effect on the output. Groups are organized in a similar way. Then groups compete with other groups by trying to silence each other and connect to other successful groups. First a tribe will absorb its nearest neighbors, then reach out to distant tribes.

Also vaguely remember scientists measuring a rain-forest in the Amazon, the thickness of the branches was proportional to thickness of the trunks, which was proportional to the density of the forest. Something useful along those lines.

<comment><USER5> Your last point is very interesting, any more information on this research?

<comment><USER4> It was from here [http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/hunting-hidden- dimensio...](http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/hunting-hidden- dimension.html)

Summary from [http://thethinkingmother.blogspot.com/2010/02/fractals- hunti...](http://thethinkingmother.blogspot.com/2010/02/fractals-hunting- hidden-dimension.html)

"Another story of interest was that the tallest tree in a rainforest was studied. Measurements were taken of its trunk and branches and the fractal geometry calculations were in alignment with its size of growth. Of further interest was the same mathematical computation matched the design of the whole rainforest, the spread of the other trees, the smaller trees, the width and size of the forest was all in alignment with the fractal geometry computation. The scientists also gathered samples from the leaves to check CO2 content and the point was to calculate the effect of the rainforest had in relation to global warming. The idea that fractal geometry is being used by environmentalists and scientists on the issue of climate was fascinating to us."

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> Wow, what a stupid article.

At least provide examples that are valid. Your atom analogy is just false, it's nothing like the solar system.</comment>


GoDaddy launches AWS-style servers and apps - <AUTHOR> http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/21/godaddy-debuts-aws-style-servers-and-apps-to-build-test-and-scale-cloud-services/ <comment><USER2> We used them as a domain registrar long ago. Somebody was able to contact support, have them unlock the domain, and transfer it.

And I am supposed to trust them now with my infrastructure? No thank you.

<comment><USER3> Yeah they're pretty horrid for that. We found the same problems at Rackspace.

Also you're only allowed to have one contact on record and it has to be an actual person, so if that person for some reason forcibly leaves your organization or worse, gets hit by a truck, you have all kinds of crazy fucking hoops you'll have to jump through to change it.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> Yeah, but it is GoDaddy.

My number 1 issue with them is never having had a good custom support experience with them. Dropped calls, no return emails, barrier after barrier.

And that is for a rinky-dink little brochure website. No way their rep supports something like this. For me of course, ymmv.

<comment><USER5> > _that is for a rinky-dink little brochure website_

The less you pay for a service, the less profitable it is to provide support. For higher-priced products, GoDaddy's support may be better.

But, yes, it's still GoDaddy.

<comment><USER6> They screwed up a migration of simple Wordpress MySQL databases for me from one of their hosting products to another (lost half completely, and half the data from the others). Even for cheap hosting you'd think for the number of customers they have they could afford to test a database migration.

<comment><USER5> Apple and Google have lost data for me during migrations in more egregious ways. There's unfortunately a subculture of the software industry that cares more about delivering products on time than delivering safe products.

<comment><USER7> Indeed. I'm not sure which is the sub-culture any more.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER8> GoDaddy?

No thank you! [http://www.businessinsider.com/godaddy-ceo-videotapes- himsel...](http://www.businessinsider.com/godaddy-ceo-videotapes-himself- killing-an-elephant-2011-3)

<comment><USER9> Assuming that what he did is not illegal, I don't see why videotaping yourself hunting an animal is a cause to dislike someone or their company. A bit odd, but a big deal I think not. Particularly if elephants are considered pests in the area.

There are already many reasons to dislike GoDaddy, no need to manufacture some.

<comment><USER8> Just because something might not be 100% illegal does not make it right. Last time I checked taking a life was not exactly something which is generally encouraged.

And as for "pest", there are plenty of examples in history where this "reasoning" was used as justification for murdering, killing, genocide, you name it.

It is my choice who I do business with and for this I do not need to "manufacture" reasons but only need to look at facts. Personally I do not feel comfortable doing business with people who literally butcher beings.

<comment><USER10> > Last time I checked taking a life was not exactly something which is > generally encouraged.

Wait, what? Have you ever eaten meat, worn leather, or taken Tylenol? We kill hundreds of thousands of animals daily.

<comment><USER8> And two wrongs make a right?

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER11> People don't trust them with domain registration. Why do they think they can be trusted with our servers?

<comment><USER5> Many people do trust them with domain registration as well as hosting. HN is probably filled with people who know better (or have had enough time to have a bad GoDaddy experience), but GoDaddy is still the first place many people go when they want to build a website.

<comment><USER12> Mostly because of their successful ad campaign for many years.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER13> > GoDaddy believes it's filling a niche that AWS is not actually serving that > well right now: smaller businesses that need cloud services

im having a really hard time believing anyone will use this "cloud" unless they are clueless and are baited into it by some salespeople.

All clouds are not equal. It's difficult to maintain uptime and especially security. The skilled engineers who do it right are expensive and not easy to come by, and you're competing with places like FB, Google, and Amazon. What will godaddy offer these engineers to win them over? My guess is that they'll hire cheap and the quality will show through.

<comment><USER14> And how is AWS _not_ filling this niche? With their generous free tier, you can practically launch and run a business for a year without paying anything. Even after that, AWS is great for small businesses. Sure, you actually have to pick a product and launch on it, but AWS handles the uptime, (most) security, etc.

<comment><USER15> > run a business for a year without paying anything.

Is their free tier limited to one year?

<comment> ryan-c > The Amazon Web Services (AWS) Free Tier is designed to enable you to get > hands-on experience with AWS Cloud Services. The AWS Free Tier includes > services with a free tier available for 12 months following your AWS sign-up > date, as well as additional service offers that do not automatically expire > at the end of your 12 month AWS Free Tier term.

[https://aws.amazon.com/free/](https://aws.amazon.com/free/)

There's a list there of what does/does not expire.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER16> Here is GoDaddy's original press release. I had a hard time finding it.

[https://aboutus.godaddy.net/newsroom/news-releases/news- rele...](https://aboutus.godaddy.net/newsroom/news-releases/news-releases- details/2016/GoDaddy-Announces-Worldwide-Launch-of-Cloud-Servers--Cloud- Applications/default.aspx)

</comment><comment><USER17> Worst company ever. Need a domain asap for a tech demo with weird DNS requirements. Their systems fucked up horribly, ended up buying 5 domains trying to checkout, then refused to refund any of them as 'domains are non- refundable'.

<comment><USER18> Are you sure you didn't just accidentally check out with everything in your cart? From what you wrote, it seems the "system messing up" was on your side (pebkac). It's much easier to blame someone else though.

<comment><USER17> No, the site was riddled with 500 errors, their CDN was down which made all the fonts not load, etc. They had it on their Twitter that they were having a weird system outage after I realised and was sure after I tweeted them they would refund the domains. No dice. 100% refusal to refund.

<comment><USER19> That should have been a good hint to not use Godaddy

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER20> Will never forget the one time they simply locked our entire account with approx. 20 domains. Without providing a full copy of my passport and credit- card (front & back) we would have never gotten the account back. Transfered all domains the very next day to another registrar. Never again GoDaddy.

</comment><comment><USER21> I'm curious who the target market for this is. Any tech worth his salt wouldn't go near GoDaddy for even a domain registration. Who the heck would trust them to run cloud servers?

I'm not saying they don't have customers. The advertise to non-techies and tons of non-techies use them as a registrar and mail host. I just don't see that same set of people running cloud servers. It's too low level.

</comment><comment><USER22> It seems to me that GoDaddy's new offering is more similar to Digital Ocean's than Amazon's. Makes me wonder why they didn't just buy Digital Ocean? Or maybe they tried and were met with laughter.

<comment><USER23> > Makes me wonder why they didn't just buy Digital Ocean?

Please no.

</comment></comment><comment><USER24> I work on the GoDaddy Hosting team. I'm based out of Sunnyvale, CA but the cloud team is mostly in Gilbert, AZ. I didn't personally work on this particular product, but I'd be happy to provide insight where I can. (i.e. I'm not a PR rep) I see some concerns in this thread regarding support: Our hosting products go through a different dedicated support team.

</comment><comment><USER12> I am not sure if this is AWS-style. More like CPanel app installation with Magic wizard for most of the installations. For RoR and Django, more like Herkou (but does GoDaddy have its own buildpack/deployment/development workflow)?

</comment><comment><USER25> Tell me GoDaddy is using some of the Nodejitsu team they acquired to implement this. If GoDaddy is going to overcome their reputation as seen here in the comments, they're going to need some tooling and ops with a proven track record.

</comment><comment><USER26> Do they try to put you through a 10 page up sell process every time you launch a sever?

<comment><USER27> Probably not only then. The moment when you want to restart your server via the web UI would be another good moment to upsell you. And thinking about how many features would be there, a 10 pages might not be enough for their cloud offerings.

</comment></comment><comment><USER28> This news is a long time coming but I am super pleased that they got this announcement out before the OpenStack Summit next month.

After the failure of the HP public cloud Openstack needed this validation.

<comment><USER5> I don't understand how GoDaddy provides any significant validation when there are so many prominent companies using OpenStack in production[1]. The list of companies who support the OpenStack Foundation is huge as well.

1\. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStack#Users](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStack#Users)

<comment><USER28> In the context of a public cloud we need more users.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER29> I wouldn't trust GoDaddy to host the most trivial of websites. This is a non- starter.

</comment><comment><USER30> On the question of whether GoDaddy is reliable; well AFAIK they are the biggest domain name registrar, so they should be reliable. And they seem to apply the .NET Framework quite successfully on their website.

</comment><comment><USER31> David Russell Dennis

</comment><comment><USER32> Godaddy is the Comcast of Hosting.

</comment><comment><USER32> GoDaddy is the comcast of the tech world.

</comment><comment><USER33> The cloud has officially jumped the shark.</comment>


Why an S&P 500 fund is a poor long-term investment - <AUTHOR> http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-sp-500-index-is-not-your-buddy-2015-01-14 <comment><USER2> Trying to beat the S&P is a sucker's game. Very few people can take the volatility of it, let alone the other investments that the author proposes here.

A well balanced, RISK-BASED portfolio is the only sane way to invest.

BTW, very few people get rich in the stock market. (I'm not counting IPO's, as you can't get in on those without knowing someone or being employed by someone related to the IPO).</comment>


Ask HN: Instagram API rate limits - <AUTHOR> I use some self developed script to get info about my posts and followers. Recently i discovered that Instagram changed rate limits for my app. I see following info in headers:
x-ratelimit-limit: 200
I learned Instagram blog and page with changes but found no mentions about any changes since Oct 1, 2017.
Is this new limit related only to my token or to entire platform? Could you check your token? <comment><USER2> The word around Twitter (some public, a lot more backchannel) is that this is a global change, an unannounced acceleration in the deprecation planned for later this year and next. Rate limits dropped from 5,000 to 200 per hour for everyone.

</comment><comment><USER3> Crazy that Facebook would incorporate this change with no prior notice - on a holiday weekend no less. Surprised at the lack of outrage/news on this as I assume it impacts most 3rd party Instagram apps.</comment>


Xanaflight: Three Pages - <AUTHOR> http://perma.pub/alpha/edward/openZRe7/fulfil <comment><AUTHOR> This is software implementing one version of Ted Nelson's idea of visible connection in text.

For more on that idea, see [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMKy52Intac](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMKy52Intac), which contains beautiful examples.

</comment><comment><USER2> I want to read and probably like this but the layout is broken. I can't see what's at the right and left edges on Firefox, Chrome or Safari, and there isn't any horizontal scrolling. Maybe on a bigger monitor?

<comment><AUTHOR> I just noticed that too. Hmm. Maybe not the best thing to submit today.

<comment><USER2> I'm definitely interested in Xanadu and Pale Fire too. It's a weird but interesting book.</comment></comment></comment>


Our goal is to make collaborative editing the standard on the web - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/Pita/etherpad-lite/ Etherpad lite is a really-real time collaborative editor spawned from the Hell fire of Etherpad. We're reusing the well tested Etherpad easysync library to make it really realtime. Etherpad Lite is based on node.js ergo is much lighter and more stable than the original Etherpad<p>Announcement is here  http://etherpad.org/2011/08/22/major-release-etherpad-lite-v1/ <comment><USER2> This begs the question, of course, of why you'd want to make collaborative editing the standard on the web. I've found it useful when compiling notes together with other people, and I know some journalists use it to help them report breaking news together... but aside from that, creating and editing text is a one-at-a-time thing because that's simply how people like it.

Cool project, weird tagline.

<comment><USER3> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question>

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> ever since the original etherpad vanished we are in a search for a replacement. The a ton of clones that spawned don't count. they are not as stable, fast etc. Things get disconnected, or they added too much new 'cool' features for it to remain fast.

We mostly used it to collaboratively edit specs, code examples, blog posts, etc. used almost daily, now we sometimes connect to a shared remote ssh server to collaboratively edit a file in vim inside tmux or screen ;)

Definitely going to check this out. And may be even host.</comment>


[WikiLeaks] Government Workers Ordered Not to Read Cables - <AUTHOR> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/05/world/05restrict.html?hp

<comment><USER2> What a retarded thing, so the whole world can now read the cables and government employees are told not to ? Why ? What could there be that the government would want to hide from its own employees ? After all, if the Chinese can read them there does not seem to be much point in stopping your own governments employees from reading them.

[http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&...](http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=ordered+not+to+read+cables)

first link.

"Classified information, whether or not already posted on public websites or disclosed to the media, _remains classified_ , and must be treated as such by federal employees and contractors, until it is declassified by an appropriate U.S. Government authority,"

You've got to be kidding. Talk about being in denial.

</comment><comment><USER3> This must be awkward for government workers who have already read the cables.</comment>


Show HN: CLI to automatically schedule tweets from a CSV file - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/Phantas0s/ottosocial <comment><USER2> Nice. Any plans to support other formats than csv? Would be sweet to have a Linux command to tweet from anywhere, or to pass the tweet as a parameter, that kinda thing. Could become a nice way to batch send a bunch of tweets for multiple users if I could change the key for each user, say what to tweet for each. What do you think?

<comment><AUTHOR> That's a nice idea. You can open a pull request for that if you want.</comment></comment>


Why Not All IAM Projects Cross the Finish Line? - <AUTHOR> https://medium.facilelogin.com/why-not-all-iam-projects-cross-the-finish-line-a767d6a2c0dd <comment><USER2> What is IAM?

<comment><USER3> Likely Identity Access Management

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_management](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_management)

<comment><AUTHOR> Yes... its Identity and Access Management

<comment><USER2> These articles where people use an acronym and never explain it drive me crazy.

There is a lot of good material here which is general as to project difficulties in general, but I never found an explanation of the acronym.</comment></comment></comment></comment>


Announcing the F# 3.1 Compiler/Library Code Drop - <AUTHOR> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/fsharpteam/archive/2013/11/28/announcing-the-f-3-1-compiler-library-code-drop-from-the-visual-f-tools-team-at-microsoft.aspx

<comment><USER2> On Linux making a standalone binary is surprisingly easy:

        $ fsharpc file.fs  # can run the generated file.exe via mono at this point
        $ mkbundle --static file.exe -o file

Now ./file is a statically compiled binary. Easy deployment.

<comment><USER3> I was interested in the language, but was put off by the .NET connection for using on linux. Is F# running on mono on linux comparable, performance-wise, with the windows stack?

<comment><USER4> Mono is generally slower, with a few exceptions. It's not "slow" though - maybe half the performance of the CLR? I'm not sure where it stands after v3, which includes a proper GC. Mono also has an LLVM option which increases startup times, but provides a ~30% bonus at runtime.

<comment><USER5> One of the possible exceptions is number crunching. .NET has no equivalent to Mono.SIMD, so for numerical tasks it's conceivable that code written for Mono could end up being far faster.

Depending on what you're doing, the performance difference might not matter in practice. Mono's (historically, at least) done worse with super OO-y code because of its poorer GC performance, but oftentimes that kind of code also ends up appearing in applications where overall performance is dominated by I/O and CPU efficiency ends up being negligible.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> I rather like the idea of "functional first" as a paradigm. It underscores the crucial fact that all the common functional languages (even Haskell) are multiparadigm; they just default to functional programming instead of defaulting to imperative programming the way other "multiparadigm"languages do.

</comment><comment><USER7> * Mac OS X: F# ships as part of the Mono distribution.

* Linux: [http://fsharp.org/use/linux/](http://fsharp.org/use/linux/)

* FreeBSD: [http://fsharp.org/use/freebsd/](http://fsharp.org/use/freebsd/)

</comment><comment><USER8> Grrr. Why won't Microsoft open the CLR? It's so fast and has such amazing codegen! I don't want performance to degrade moving from Windows to some platform that requires I run mono!

<comment><USER9> > Why won't Microsoft open the CLR? It's so fast and has such amazing codegen!

Watch how you are about to answer your own question.

> I don't want performance to degrade moving from Windows to some platform > that requires I run mono!

Yes, but Microsoft, who sells Windows licenses, _does_ want performance to degrade when you move from Windows to some other platform.

</comment></comment><comment><USER10> I watched a video the other night of a demo of F# and was pretty impressed with some of the dev tools: especially IntelliSense on APIs and being able to provide an example URL to generate classes for incoming JSON.</comment>


Show HN: Groupr - Collaborative List Making Tool - <AUTHOR>

Groupr is a web app to create and share lists. Our goal is to help users organize and retrieve many types of information as well as facilitate collaboration. Lists can be anything: to do list, calendar, customer relations, playlist, and everything in between. By default, lists are private (registration is required), but can be easily shared with the Groupr community or friends. A simple permission set can be applied to shares, so collaborators can be allowed to view, edit and/or comment on lists.
And here it is: http://groupr.co
Usage cases: 1) YouTube Playlists - Create a list of YouTube URLs and a nifty playlist app will show up. 2) Databases (i.e. customer relations, places, events) - Lists have a rigid structure (schema). This equates to consumer-friendly databases with less than a minute of setup time plus simple sharing and permissions. 3) Temporary lists - Grocery lists, to do lists, and other lists that are disposable in nature. 4) Arbitrary information storage - Store information for easy recall, i.e. itineraries, notes, ideas 5) Social - The site works well for sharing Top Ten or My Favorite N Things lists. We have a public community which is organized by tags. 6) ? - Groupr has many other uses, it's up to you
What makes this different from Evernote, Remember the Milk, etc.? The difference between Groupr and these other services is abstraction and structure. We do not focus on a specific use case (notes, to do lists), instead we allow lists to have any structure. Groupr requires that lists have structure and that all items in the list follow the structure (again, like a database). There are no limitations to the number of fields and many types are available (Text, Number, URL, Address, Date, etc.). Also, collaboration has been baked in from the very beginning, something other services do not focus on.
Mobile? iPhone and Android apps are in the works.
Does anyone find this useful? I would appreciate any feedback or criticisms. <comment><USER2> A few thoughts: don't make me sign up to try out the service. I don't want to leave a trail of dead user accounts around the web because I decided to try out your service. Most of the time, if I can't see a video demo immediately or actually access a demo version of the site I just move on.

A lot of your copy on the front page is feature-driven rather than user/problem driven. From looking at the landing page - I'm not entirely sure what problem/pain this product is meant to solve. I get the use-cases, but they aren't exactly problems for me at the moment so you haven't really sold me to try it out. There's probably a use case that would appeal to me but you haven't found it yet.

Also - the flexibility of your system means that you need to let me know how I should use it. I have no idea how I should start - there's no defined structure and I'm not entirely sure what the best way to get value from it would be (e.g. what should my lists be called, when should I create a new list versus use an old list).

It's very similar to Google Wave - in that it presents a bunch of tools to use but no indication on the best way to use them. This is not good from a user experience perspective (I am left feeling like I'm not using it correctly or in the best fashion - not a positive experience).

There's also no user feedback form/email on the landing page - I'd rather send feedback via email.

<comment><AUTHOR> Thanks for your feedback!

It may not be clear from the landing page, but as a guest you can browse lists that other people have shared. To create lists though registration is required. Under "Account" is a button to delete your account if you decide to try Groupr out then change your mind.

I will work on making the landing page more useful. This would explain why the conversion rate has been so low.</comment></comment>


Using Non-Newtonian Fluids to Fill Potholes - <AUTHOR> http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2012/04/silly-putty-for-potholes.html

<comment><USER2> I wonder about grip properties, particularly for motorcycles while cornering. A bag that shifts position, even a little, may be dangerously destabilizing. As it is, manhole covers need to be avoided when wet (and best avoided in sharp cornering in the dry too).

<comment><USER3> Or cyclists! I wonder what would happen if a relatively slow moving, thin wheel rolled over this? I'm worried that a cyclist would sink in to the material, and be well on their way to a header.

<comment><USER4> Maybe it would work better on an interstate, particularly flat sections, where there are no cyclists, and vehicles are constantly moving forward at high rates of speeds? Warnings could be posted to warn motorcycles not to swerve (e.g. like uneven surface warnings).

And to deter slow-pokes, entire sections of highway can be filled 100 feet deep with the stuff. If anyone slows down too much, the highway sarlacc acquires a tasty meal.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> I've always wondered if you could use non-newtonian fluids for speed bumps? So if you drive under a certain speed, the fluid just moves away and you don't feel a bump. But if you go too fast it hardens and you hit the bump.

I.e., if you go slow you don't feel the speed bump.

<comment><USER6> You mean like this?

[http://www.gizmag.com/bumpfree-dynamic-speedbump-gives- you-a...](http://www.gizmag.com/bumpfree-dynamic-speedbump-gives-you-a-smooth- ride/14156/)

</comment></comment><comment><USER7> How dangerous is this when the patch somehow pops out (or is removed by kids) and sits in the street? When you run over a 12" bag of shear-thickening fluid, does it turn into a rock and destroy your car?

<comment><USER8> I doubt it could be any more dangerous than the pothole, since the patch would spread out to be as thin as the bag allows, making it into a thin lump on the road that would be no more likely to fly up and damage a car than loose pieces of pavement around the edge of the pothole.

</comment></comment><comment><USER9> What happens if you park with a wheel resting on one of these, though? Would you come back to find your tire had sunk in?

<comment><USER10> Not just park, I'm guessing it'd take a few seconds of rest for your wheel to sink in it. I guess it'd probably rip the bag and sink in the hole completely.

<comment><USER11> Nyah, I guess that the reason they went for tough kevlar bags is to be able to withstand the weight of the care. I think it would sink a bit but cause any damage or pose a hazard to the car.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> Why wouldn't a bag of sand or gravel work similarly? It's less viscous but pouring gravel into a hole and covering it can't take that much longer.

<comment><USER13> Viscosity isn't what matters. Sand and gravel do not harden when force is applied and will spread apart as I'm sure you can imagine.

<comment><USER10> They're already hard. They won't spread apart because they're in a hole.

<comment><USER11> The individual pieces may be hard, but the collection is not. Think about walking in the sand. Your feet sink down and the sand will flow up and over the sides of a container. Gravel is the same way albeit to a lesser degree because the pieces are larger.

With a sheer-thickening fluid, when sheer force is exerted on it, the entire collection of fluid affected by that force hardens in reaction so it would be like running over the top of a bag of hardened concrete.

<comment><USER10> You're assuming there's a large surface of it. There's a rigid container for the little bit of sand (the pothole). Filling it with gravel works very well (we do it a lot in Greece as a temporary measure). The problem is that the gravel gets thrown out of the hole bit by bit by cars, but the solution in the article isn't meant to be permanent either.

<comment><USER14> a liquid will return to a flat hole-filling shape if it's altered, gravel does not. Also not great to spread gravel around your road, especially if it's used by bicycles. Gravel also hinders repair work

I also like the idea that the bag could be coloured to assist cyclists in avoiding them..

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER15> I would imagine that traditional pitch/tar (being a big bag of long molecules) is itself already a non-Newtonian fluid (is temporarily harder under impact). See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch_drop_experiment> for why you can consider pitch a very viscous fluid.

</comment><comment><USER16> Good idea. But how about filling potholes with a Newtonian solid, like asphalt? It isn't terribly hard to do. I'm reminded of Peter Thiel's recent comment: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRrLyckg8Nc&#t=58m38s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRrLyckg8Nc&#t=58m38s)

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> I could see where a slightly more robust solution could really work. Lay down a film (thin-ish plastic/spray sealant that would create a semi-sealed pool on the bottom of the pothole), then fill in liquid from a tank, then apply an epoxy on edges and then a kevlar mesh on top. Then you'd have a decent surface. Especially if the liquid was more like a "gel".

I'm not an engineer or a scientist--there are likely loads of reasons the above is impractical.

<comment><USER17> Well, actually filling the pothole is simpler and cheaper. A hot patch costs around 1,900$ and lasts a reasonably long time depending on what caused the problem in the first place it can literary be 10 years before the problem shows up again.

[http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/traffic/...](http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/traffic/ct- met-0326-getting-around-gfx.eps-20120325,0,7076245.graphic)

</comment></comment><comment><USER18> I wonder if this fluid is similar to a commerical product that has been publicly available for a few years, D3o. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D3o>

</comment><comment><USER19> It's an interesting idea; I look forward to seeing how it turns out in the longer term.

I'm sure this would never be sanctioned but I think it would be great if people could temporarily patch these damn things on their own rather than waiting for the government to get around to it.

</comment><comment><USER20> This company uses infrared technology to patch potholes, instead of traditional asphalt. They are selling franchises. The owner of a company I used to work for bought the franchise for MD-DC-VA and is doing well with it. <http://www.bpotholefree.com/></comment>


The state of digital education - <AUTHOR> http://edtechtimes.com/2012/11/13/the-state-of-digital-education-infographic/

<comment><USER2> That's a big infographic for having so little actual information. Even as a CS major, I have a few gripes with the way digital education is going:

1\. Digital textbooks suck. The traditional book publishers want to make lots of money. They make even more money here renting these horrific pieces of crap they call e-books, which greatly exaggerate the benefit they truly provide to the student. Publishers would do a whole lot better if they adapted the Udacity model of short focused video segments.

2\. Online lectures are not as effective as in-person. In online courses, deep learning doesn't happen. Online classes are setup so you can pop in once a week, answer a few questions by skimming the textbook rather than hearing a liver lecturer speak, and move on with life. Thus avoiding deep synthesis of topics. The social and personal interactions which are lost are significant as well. It's a flexible model plagued with tragedy.</comment>


San Francisco's big seismic gamble - <AUTHOR> https://mobile.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/17/us/san-francisco-earthquake-seismic-gamble.html <comment><USER2> Did anybody else (on Windows, anyway) get a command-window ad popup upon loading this page?</comment>


Seriously mechanical (gears!) Rube Goldberg corkscrew and wine pourer.  - <AUTHOR> http://www.oneofonehundred.co.uk/media/corkscrew.php

<comment><USER2> That's what software looks like inside.

<comment><AUTHOR> I was going to say I think we've (well, a lot of us) have forgotten how to make and engineer mechanical, physical things... but you're completely right, it's not like a computer is any less complex. Still, hot metal is impressive!</comment></comment>


First Look: Internet Explorer 8 - <AUTHOR> http://on10.net/blogs/larry/First-Look-Internet-Explorer-8/

<comment><USER2> I'm not trying to be biased here, but having to install Silverlight prevented me from watching that.

Does this mean I'm getting old and bitter or wise?. I don't ever remember hesitating like that to install Flash...</comment>


Matrix.org hacked, hacker posts helpful issues in their GitHub - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix.org/issues/371 <comment><AUTHOR> If you read through the issues, you'll find they made some pretty basic mistakes.

1) They checked credentials into public GitHub

2) They left their perimiter unguarded and the hackers leveraged their CI system.

3) Hackers leveraged their Ansible setup to propagate creds

4) No SIEM/IDS

5) Poor key control

6) No 2FA

ouch.</comment>


Ask HN: What's up with Delicious? - <AUTHOR>

Currently it shows "Connection refused". Is that the same for you? <comment><USER2> looks like it's down: <http://isitup.org/delicious.com>

</comment><comment><USER3> It's back up again. Try now.

</comment><comment><USER3> Yeah. Same error for me.

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> Working now.</comment>


IE 10 to enable Do Not Track by default - <AUTHOR> http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57445568-75/microsoft-ticks-off-advertisers-with-ie10-do-not-track-policy/

<comment><AUTHOR> > _Microsoft Chief Privacy Officer Brendon Lynch tried to justify the choice > to turn on DNT by default in IE10 in a blog post yesterday. Lynch said that > Microsoft made the decision because the company believes that consumers > should have more control over how their online activities are tracked, > shared, and used._

You see, this is for _consumers_! It has nothing to do with hurting Google.</comment>


Ask HN: Former freelance client screwed me. Having trouble moving on. Advice? - <AUTHOR>

The short story:
I took on a freelance client four years ago who weaseled his way out of final payment. Since it was early in my career, I could not afford legal recourse and did not want to expose the drama to my future clients.
He ended up using the project to get a job as an investor, and eventually used that to raise a seed round to build a company that will supposedly give accounting and financial support to freelancers.
Fast forward to today, I'm doing great and don't need the money, but my pride is preventing me from moving on mentally. I also have no doubt he'll use his scummy tactics on others in the future and it honestly bothers me that he continues to be successful despite his behavior. I have met with others who have had similar experiences.
What would you do in my situation? Reconsider legal action? Public shaming? Simply move on and chalk it up as a life experience?
Here's the long story: http://pastebin.com/4LB8e265
Thanks in advance. <comment><USER2> A company owes you money. The usual way to get it from them is to send them an invoice (or other written formal demand for money). There exist interesting hypothetical questions as to what happens after you send them an invoice if they refuse to pay it. A very highly probable outcome, though, is that two months from now you get a very thin envelope in the mail with a check in it.

Supposing you don't get the check and need to ask interesting hypothetical questions: these questions can be answered by a profession of specialized letter writers, at least one of whom practices in your town. Given copies of your emails they can write all of the letters required to get you a high-four figure check. It will likely run you low three figures to low four figures. Don't think of them like your representatives in a stressful court case, because it is 99.54% likely that there will be no court case -- think of them as highly trained specialists in letter writing, with high tolerances for both stress and tedium, who happily sell letters to almost anyone who asks for one.

Send the invoice. This has been equally true for 48 of the last 48 months.

Separately: the tech industry has an unsavory individual in it. Bad news: the world is lousy with them. This particular one is distinguished in your memory mostly because he had bad dealings with you. If your goal is decreasing the amount of unsavory business dealings in the world, you'll be far more effective by making it a point from now until your dying day to always tell young freelancers "ALWAYS GET A CONTRACT" rather than spending an iota of mental energy on this guy.

<comment><AUTHOR> Thanks for your input. I did send an invoice four years ago, but he ignored it. Another complicating factor is that the project (and company) is long dead.

My next step, as many have suggested as well, is likely to consult a professional of specialized letter writers.

> [make] it a point from now until your dying day to always tell young > freelancers "ALWAYS GET A CONTRACT"

Definitely. I have been doing this ever since.

<comment><USER2> Resend a demand for payment. The possible answers include "A check." and "A universe of other responses, any of which you can get checked by a letter- writer." For example, "X Corp owes you money. I don't." is entirely possible. It is an _incredible step forward_ over where you are today.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER3> Allow yourself some time -less than an hour- to examine your thougts and emotions.

These examples might not be applicable to you!

"I was conned", which is causing "I feel humiliation and anger" and the evidence "he ripped me off and then made a load of money". Try to give a rough rating to the intesity. "I feel this strongly" or "this feels like a 3 out of 5".

Then start thinking about other evidence. "I could have retaliated, but I haven't. That's because I am honorable and have integrity." Or "it really sucked at the time, and it still sucks a bit, but I did learn from the experience and I am a better business person because of it."

The aim with the new evidence is not to remove the sting but to reduce it a bit, to reduce the intensity of the feelings. It's iterative.

This is a structured method to help control intrusive thoughts. If I tell you not to think of an elephant you're probably going to picture an elephant, so not thinking about stuff isn't always as straightforward as just pushing it out of your mind.

<comment><USER4> So the correct response to someone ripping you off is using mental tricks to convince yourself you're better off than before?

<comment><USER5> I would agree that it is the correct response. It sounds stupid to just let people get one over on you, sure. But every freelancer (that I know of) has been screwed by a client at some point.

Since it happens to everyone, the interesting part of the story becomes how you handled it. Not that it happened.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> The professional delegation of this issue to a Lawyer can be your closure. This is when your emotional anguish ends -- after that, it's no longer personal. Sure, you'll pay $600-$900 for the consultation plus a % contingency fee, and one hour to explain the issue. However, the moment you hand it over to your council, it's _settled_.

The Lawyer will draft the invoice reminder, and a scary advisory that it's a bad idea to build a business upon stolen intellectual property and know-how. They will follow up directly with the CFO of the organization, professional to professional. It might cause the CFO to have a meeting to discuss the risks of not paying. The lawyer may decide to play a short or a long game. They may decide that it's simply not worth it to pursue further. In any case, once it's delegated, it's their professional opinion, and you accept it.

In this way, you've done what you can, and you've moved on with your life. If you get a check in the mail a few months (or years) later, great. If the concern about a check arriving in the future causes you anxiety, this one is also easy to solve, tell your attorney that the beneficiary of any money extracted is the local food bank. Then it's closed. You move on.

<comment><AUTHOR> Thanks. I'm starting to feel like, as you mention, I need to at least go through the legal motions to feel like I've done everything I can.

</comment></comment><comment><USER7> I am so sorry that you were screwed like that. It sucks, but look at it this way: you learned a valuable lesson that likely helped you in your career, and the other guy has to sleep at night with the knowledge of the people he screwed weighing on his conscience. At this point your negative feelings are hurting only yourself, not him. You may even find it helpful to push yourself to forgive him for his misdeed - he did it from a place of insecurity and weakness, and finding it in yourself to forgive him comes from a place of courage and strength. Resentment is poisonous, and in my time on earth I have found that revenge offers no comfort, but that healing comes only from forgiveness.

</comment><comment><USER8> I'm a very vengeful guy. If you have wronged me years ago I'd still bear grudges and find serious ways to give back. It's my weakness and it's not healthy. You should let it go. Think about it: how much time and money would you waste in a legal action? Is it worth the stress and commitment? It's not.

IMHO don't feed the mob with public shaming. It's a scar, not an open wound and you should simply warn other freelancers from joining his company. It's the difference between being unprofessional and acting as a good mentor.

> I foolishly did not draft a formal contract -- a mistake I never made > again...

This is a lesson every freelancer I met learns the hard way.

<comment><USER9> while I don't believe it's related to OP anymore (see my other reply to him) i wanted to highlight that your comment shows an amazing level of self- reflection.

("I'm a very vengeful guy"). Would you say you're a psychopath? [EDIT: this is an honest question out of curiosity, not an accusation.]

What about other people - do you think hey hold grudges for years against you, too? Wouldn't it suck if something bad that serious happened to you, a major setback, but it was because of some guy you have never thought about thought he was "givign back" something against some way he thought you wronged him years ago? Even though you did not in fact have this intention?

What I'm saying is that I know basically no one who just does things out of spite. So if you feel that you were personally wronged, don't you think you could be misinterpreting, and doling out punishment against people who haven't thought about you since (or have any reason to) but who's next interaction with you is a shit sandwich for no reason?

Just curious here.

<comment><USER8> I'm NOT a psychopath, I think that honest writing makes for more informative posts, while showing empathy and common ground for the OP.

You highlight one of the most famous cautionary tales: the _Chain of Revenge_. You're right and, as I suggested, OP should let it go. Although a grudge, no matter how small, is not something you just shake off from you. Rational thinking can only take you that far, the real deal is to forgive, which takes time and willpower.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> You should let it go and the only way to let it go is to forgive him from the bottom of your heart.. not a lip service "I forgive you" statement on WWW or even to him directly...

Its a statement you tell yourself and he will feel it in your face/behaviour when you interact next...

I said forgive and not forget... you can always learn from the experience and make needed changes. one of the lessons may be that he is untrustworthy and so don't trust him with anything until you have reason to consider otherwise..

PS : I have been led to believe that email comms can be treated as contract, so check it out with legals..

</comment><comment><USER11> Maybe try something like: [http://olddebts.com/](http://olddebts.com/)

You have the date of the last invoice no? With something like Old Debts it will at least hit their credit rating if they don't pay up. I recently had success with this and got money out of a client.

That unpaid balance will follow them for a long time and they will have to resolve the issue with you.

Beyond getting your money back I wouldnt take revenge by going negative publicly and creating drama.

</comment><comment><USER12> You have an email from them saying that the final 2/3 payment is contingent on them getting funcding, and they got funding?

Resend the bill for the remainder. Give them 90 days. If they don't pay, sell the debt or take it legal.

<comment><AUTHOR> Sorry, I should have been clearer.

Four years ago I worked with him on Project A. Project A never got funded and died after our dispute. The 2/3 email relates to Project A.

However, while Project A was in progress, he presented it as his own work to land himself a job as an investor, and then used that to land himself a seed round for a tangentially related but materially different Project B years later.

I make no claims for the funding he received from Project B -- it's just bothersome that he earned it off of my back (to a degree).

<comment><USER9> dude. this new comment clears up a LOT.

based on this you are 100% suffering from sour grapes, because whereas HE was able to "present project A" in a certain light to get a totally separate gig and build a totally separate business, you yourself do not have adtruth_b that you were able to pitch to investors by mischaracterizing the success of Project A as a big success, and getting your own seed round for a tangentally related but materially different business.

you're just jealous that he is smoother than you!!

<comment><USER13> You did not read the long story, or you lack the ability to understand the written word, or both.

<comment><USER9> you are right, I didn't read the long story, just the comments I replied to.

but if he had gotten the 2/3 payment it would have been long-since spent by now. his problem specifically seems to be that the guy,

>However, while Project A was in progress, he presented it as his own work to land himself a job as an investor, and then used that to land himself a seed round for a tangentially related but materially different Project B years later.

>I make no claims for the funding he received from Project B -- it's just bothersome that he earned it off of my back (to a degree).

It simply sounds like sour grapes. This is in the longer version too:

>Shortly after, the client presented the site I had built in job and business school interviews and on his LinkedIn profile. He landed himself a job at an investment firm working as an advisor for startups, worked there for a few years, and managed to land himself a seed round as CEO of a company that -- get this -- provides business and accounting support for startups.

>Now, four years later, I am more established and quite satisfied with my career. I can afford legal representation. But I am having trouble letting this go. I think about it often. The money isn't the issue -- it's a matter of pride. This guy used me for his own financial benefit, lied to me, and is now starting a business purportedly to help freelancers.

A central theme by OP is that the guy "used him". But OP could have also "used project A" to land OP_project_B and seed funding for it. it's just that he didn't.

honestly, this seriously comes off as sour grapes given the extra information I've now read.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> The good news is you are in great company! We all get conned at some point. Some of us (me) multiple times. You're paying for your education, whether you are in school or not. Just make sure you get good use out of your experience in the future.

> continues to be successful despite his behavior

I'd argue the use of the word "despite".

</comment><comment><USER14> You cannot control what comes your way (and in all honesty, being a freelancer myself, I totally feel where you're coming from with this bad experience), but you can surely learn to maximise your reaction to it. I lost any rights I had for a startup I built, managed and worked my a## for, for the past 3 years, so I know what loss is. But regardless of the situation, you have to remember that moving on is the key and the only way to do that is to let go of what you cannot change. The simplest way to understand "why?" is to think of it like this: if you keep wasting time and consuming your energy with negative thoughts, instead of focusing on what is good and productive for your own sake, just to try and shake the ground of the guy's feet, all you'll end up doing is giving him an extra hand in stopping you from your tracks. Don't let him do that, own your thoughts and actions and direct them towards the only thing that really matters: your own progress and evolution. And don't worry about it: there is a universal balance in place, and it has nothing to do with religion or faith, just with the logical assumption that, if you're a person that screws people to get what they want, eventually, you'll meet someone smarter than you to screw you for their own good. Knowing that should help you focus and leave the screwing part for someone out there, whose role in paying this guy back, hasn't yet been consumed. Yours has. Keep walking!

</comment><comment><USER15> Write it off. One thing I probably would do is send a friendly e-mail to the investors, explaining the situation. Keep it short, a few sentences max. Given the situation, offer they pay you a reasonable fee for the problem to go away. Do you have any evidence supporting your claim?

The fact that there was no formal contract does not mean he legally owns your IP. E-mails can be valid contracts. Did they rebuild the software or continue working from what you build?

Problems like these can be major deterrents for future investors/acquirers.

<comment><USER8> > Given the situation, offer they pay you a reasonable fee for the problem to > go away.

I'm afraid the investors would read it as some kind of bribe and the culprit could sue him for such accusations. He doesn't have a contract to support his claims, the e-mail would cause more trouble than it's worth it.

<comment><USER15> Doesn't he have e-mails to prove his case? Those are often as good as a written contract.

At the very least, they should know the kind of person who they invested money in.

In addition, they invested in this company to make money, no? In the event they are not interested in fixing it now and you have some valid evidence then you can always sue if they make it big/sell it.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER16> >> preventing me from moving on mentally

You must absolutely close this forever.

>> don't need the money

Go for the legal action. Don´t think of it as revenge, for it is not. Even if you end up losing, you definitely win.

<comment><USER17> I'm genuinely curious? Why do you think a loss legally, which could be financially and mentally extremely challenging, would be a win?

<comment><USER16> He seems to have a mental blockage with this situation. Some years later and he still needs to write about it and ask for advice. He is probably taking this as an excuse for others unrelated things happening in his life (this is _very_ subjective, but I was in a somehow similar situation years ago)

A legal action is just a way to put a definitive end to all this. The outcome is not important; he will feel liberated, even if he loses.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER18> Your physical and mental energy and time is a finite resource. Don't waste it.

</comment><comment><USER19> What you could have done from the beginning was to sell on the debt to a debt collection company. It's something you can still do now, and you will sleep easy in the knowledge that the collectors will not let the matter rest until they get their due. Note also that the threat of selling a debt is often much more effective than that of legal action.

</comment><comment><USER20> > I foolishly did not draft a formal contract

Move on. It is extremely unlikely that legal action will get you anywhere. It's your word against theirs.

Have you considered that without concrete proof of your claims, they could initiate legal action against you for slander if they felt like it? "Public shaming" could be seen as tortious interference.

</comment><comment><USER13> Well, move on mentally (you are a better person etc.).

But one might argue that it is your duty not to let it go, for the sake of the system (i.e. others). How about:

1\. Send the client a non-aggressive email reminding them of the facts and asking for the payment + interest. Do not make any threats.

2\. Find out (e.g. contact a local lawyer) about the admissibility in court of emails that you have. You need to prove that the client did actually send them. Find any other circumstantial evidence (code, phone calls) you have that argues for the authenticity of those emails.

3\. If it works that way in your jurisdiction, argue that they acted in bad faith to claim damages.

4\. Likely not doable, but if you can argue that they did not intend to pay from the beginning, get them accused of fraud.

All that would work where I live overseas, I do not know if it will work where you live.

</comment><comment><USER21> Chalk it up to life experience.

You should always have a contract even a simple hand written one is better than nothing. While you maybe getting screwed over you still, imho, need to take some personal accountability for not managing your business affairs. At least enough to the degree that permits you to let it go emotionally.

Also, how much money are we really talking about here? A few months work at just out of school wages? Seems to me like that's peanuts compared to real cost it has taken being on your mind over the years.

</comment><comment><USER22> Why do you think that being El Zorro is more important than your next move in business and family?

Are not you planning to be a better investor and guy to have arround? If so, have in mind that what you are fantasazing with is going to put your mind in a mental state of war draining huge ammounts of time and energy that will not be dedicated to more positive projects.

As investor I would raise many flags if I have you in my fund because I don't want to fund any personal war for whatever reason it might be declared

<comment><AUTHOR> This is true. It is a problem that this is taking up so much unwarranted space in my mind. But that's why I finally wrote about it and am seeking advice.

To play devil's advocate, wouldn't it also be a red flag to have someone in your fund who simply rolls over and gives up when they have been clearly wronged?

<comment><USER22> You did well in exposing this to other's so you don't get trapped in your own perception. Hats off to that.

You were wronged, no question about that. What I'm trying to show you is that you are not in lack of reasons to engage in such a thing. But in the other hand you have even better reasons not to.

Is not about swallowing it, is about raising you to a higher level were you not only not need to worry about that anymore but you can be even grateful that you learned the lessons that experience had teached you.

There are lots of good things waiting for you ahead if you make the space for them to come. So I'd suggest that life will be better if you don't try to be Batman and you make room for more positive things.

Following your metaphor, the devil will love to play with you in court but he cannot be part of your life if you don't give him permission

<comment><USER22> I've remembered a technique I've learned somewhere that might be of use to you these days. This is good for when you are under some kind of pressure to make a decision that is not exactly peaceful: _when in doubt, don 't act_.

Don't let your emotional drive your decisions.

If you want to go serious in making a decision about this, I'd risk to say that this is the book your future self would like you to have read now: [http://heathbrothers.com/books/decisive/](http://heathbrothers.com/books/decisive/)

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER23> In the poker community, nobody ever writes a contract for anything, but people typically still pay off their debts. One strategy for dealing with outliers that has shown success is creating a website like this: [http://www.stevenwareisathief.com/](http://www.stevenwareisathief.com/) People don't like it when you can google their name to learn about their misdeeds, and tend to feel their reputations are worth paying off their debts.

</comment><comment><USER24> Are you located in the us? In many jurisdictions you unfortunately lose your claim if you do not try to collect it, and continue to try to collect it, within a certain time. If you have not tried to collect it this past 4 years this may be a major hurdle in doing so now.

<comment><AUTHOR> I live in a US state where the deadline to bring breach of contract claims is six years.

</comment></comment><comment><USER25> I would, at least, publicly expose that guy so other people could find him on Google before accepting contract. You don't need to provide your real name.

</comment><comment><USER26> Anger/Regret are a plain waste of time, if you no longer need the money, move on. life is random.

</comment><comment><USER27> Consult a lawyer.

</comment><comment><USER28> Let it go.

</comment><comment><USER29> If you really allow me to be honest (and a bit harsh): you seem to believe to be entitled with life being a fair game. It isn't. Human nature is very diversified, and there will be those that won't give a damn to what you consider to be ethical behavior. I can understand that - it took me some time to find the balance between protecting myself against ill-intentioned people while not shutting everyone out.

You seem to worry on the long story with the fact that the "bad guy" is still on the loose. I'll be honest again: this seems like you're unconsciously trying to find justification to get even with him - after all, preventing other from "potentially fall in to his trap" sounds way better than, say, "get personal justice" \- or (let's face it) "revenge".

Sorry for the hard tone, but I think mellowing the words will lead you to wasting time, money (and possibly reputation - let's remember how good this person is on that) on a rotten past which already taught you valuable lessons that seem to have helped on your career.

Instead, focus on your present and future. Life is short, and you certainly have people and endeavors that deserve your attention. Move on and have a great day!</comment>


Zombie Satellites Return from the Graveyard - <AUTHOR> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/aerospace/satellites/zombie-satellites-return-from-the-graveyard <comment><USER2> One of the things persons not involved in the industry find interesting, is that in the entire history of manned spaceflight, no human has ever visited geostationary orbit.

I have talked to a number of people who were mistakenly under the impression that humans occasionally conduct repairs on telecom satellites.

Also this is the first time a (non-classified, that we know about) spacecraft has visited and photographed another satellite in geostationary orbit.

<comment><USER3> _One of the things persons not involved in the industry find interesting, is that in the entire history of manned spaceflight, no human has ever visited geostationary orbit._

No one has ever stopped in geostationary orbit, but you have to go past where geostationary satellites stay to get to the moon, so quite a lot of people have really.

<comment><USER4> Excuse my meta-pedantry, but an orbit is not defined only by a height, it requires also an appropriate velocity.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit)

<comment><USER2> Well yes, you certainly wouldn't want to go to a circular geostationary orbit and then expend a ton of fuel to thrust retrograde, cancelling out all your velocity, which would result in falling straight into the earth. Definitely not like people would think of in common sci-fi where things can just hang motionless in space.

Being in circular geostationary is defined as also having enough velocity for your orbit to remain circular.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> This area of research and application is fascinating and, as the article alludes, will only become more important in the coming decades.

I also read a related story[0] recently that others may find of interest: A hobbyist was able to track down a satellite whose EOL was supposed to be in _1972_ by using a beefed up HAM radio to scour the sky for its RF.

[0] - [https://www.npr.org/2020/04/24/843493304/long-lost-u-s- milit...](https://www.npr.org/2020/04/24/843493304/long-lost-u-s-military- satellite-found-by-amateur-radio-operator)

</comment><comment><USER6> There really needs to be mandatory insurance for GEO satellites. If your satellite fails to reach the graveyard orbit, the insurance pays the towing fees.

<comment><USER7> Reminds me of the series _Planetes_. I would definitely be a garbage man if it meant working space and EVAs.

<comment><AUTHOR> Not quite the same, but I'm reminded of the short lived show "Salvage 1", starring Andy Griffith [1]

[1] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvage_1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvage_1)

<comment><USER8> Interesting, I hate that these types of shows appear to be lost to the ages. I can't find it to buy (there are a handful of episodes available for purchase on DVD on Amazon for something like $17/per) and I don't see it come up on streaming services either.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> A neighbor of mine worked on the refuelling mission described here. Basically he uses a library of CAD designs to assemble standardized components for satellites. The more I learn about satellite operations the more impressed I get. My favorite was a zombie satellite that woke up after 25+ years and started transmitting again. Apparently, the solar panels had broken in such a way that they transmitted power through the battery (even though the battery could no longer hold a charge), so periodically the satellite would be in illumination and transmit (but it had a very weird pattern because the satellite was spinning out of control).

It still blows me away that most satellites, if they have a glitch like losing contact with the ground, will go into "Safe" mode- solar panels fully deployed, directly facing the sun, so it's likely there's enough power to recontact. I have enough trouble implementing a PID-driven motor on my arduino that it impressed me what people can do in space.

</comment><comment><USER10> Lots of material up there, would be interesting to prospect what more tech could be appropriated there for new use-cases.

At [https://space-search.io](https://space-search.io) by applying the orbit duration filter lower than 1 (i.e. above geostationary) you can get a good picture of all the satellites currently in that kind of graveyard orbit.

</comment><comment><USER11> >Graveyard orbits comprise paths at least 300 kilometers above the geosynchronous region, giving the zombie spacecraft room to have their orbits incrementally ground down by the gravity of the sun and moon.

Why is the graveyard orbit _higher_ than the orbit for operating satellites? Doesn't that mean when the orbit eventually decays, that the satellite will eventually fall back into the orbit where all the operating satellites are?

<comment><USER12> I guess to prevent dead satellites interferring with new ones comming to GEO from below ? Not sure if that's right though as many GEO insertion orbits often have apogeum much higher than the final GEO altitude.

<comment><USER2> Assuming a telecom satellite is still controllable at EOL, the TWTAs will be powered off, leaving only the narrow band S/L band command and control channel operational while the orbit is raised slightly.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER13> I don't quite understand why they don't decrease their orbit to burn up in the atmosphere. It would certainly be the Kerbal way.

Are the satelites too large to burn up?

<comment><USER14> According to some Wikipedia research "De-orbiting a geostationary satellite requires a delta-v of about 1,500 metres per second (4,900 ft/s), whereas re- orbiting it to a graveyard orbit only requires about 11 metres per second (36 ft/s)."

[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graveyard_orbit](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graveyard_orbit)

<comment><USER13> Huh, wouldn't have guessed it to be that much, but it makes sense. De-orbiting gets cheaper the higher your orbit is and a geo stationary orbit is high, but not that high.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER15> I'll just leave this here: [http://orbitofshame.org](http://orbitofshame.org)</comment>


Why You Should Stop Installing Your WebDev Environment Locally - <AUTHOR> https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2016/04/stop-installing-your-webdev-environment-locally-with-docker <comment><USER2> Docker is great, but there can still be subtle differences even for the same image that cause different problems in different environments. The same docker file in my experience does not run the same in all environments always. And if you want to mount a filesystem into the container do you can update code in real time all bets are off. I'm sure many of these issues will be resolved as docker matures. YMMV

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> Since Microsoft's official container service was just posted on HN [1], I thought this article would be a good read for re-introducing Containers which talks about its origins in the shipping industry and how it directly relates to the software industry.

[1] [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11527668](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11527668)</comment>


Working for my company's investor – y/n - <AUTHOR> I'm a junior employee at a healthcare technology company. One of our investors is hiring and it looks like a fit. Is it a bad career move to apply for that opening? <comment><USER2> Sometimes it's a good move on behalf of your current employer as well. Gives them more "cables" with the investor.

</comment><comment><USER3> It is not if you are open with the people involved.

</comment><comment><USER4> I say go for it, if you are not a key employee (there is no risk imho), you may just be a better fit in their other company.</comment>


IBM/Sun: The new development powerhouse? - <AUTHOR> http://weblog.infoworld.com/fatalexception/archives/2009/03/ibm_the_new_dev.html

<comment><USER2> What's with all the infoworld articles around here lately? They just might be worse then codinghorror.

</comment><comment><USER3> Hopefully IBM will be a better steward of java & the jvm than sun.

<comment><USER4> Yeah, it's unfortunate that the community for java and jvm have not been as robust as they could be.

It's heartening to know that MySQL, Hibernate, and others are being supported, but for a small startup, it's tough to find the the right folks who understand these tools.</comment></comment>


Lincoln Labs endorses Rust for spacecraft software development - <AUTHOR> https://youtu.be/46JtinmZooY?t=13867 <comment><USER2> It makes sense. I'd use rust over C/C++ for any new projects. It's fast, it's native and it has compile time guarantees about what and what isn't possible when the code runs.

All great attributes when writing spacecraft code.

</comment><comment><USER3> After fraud allegations leveled by Prof. Ted Postol against MIT Lincoln Laboratory

[https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401412/postol-vs-the- pent...](https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401412/postol-vs-the-pentagon/)

were covered up by the same man (MIT President Rafael Reif) that deliberately concealed the source of millions of dollars in gifts to MIT from convicted child rapist Jeffrey Epstein, why should anyone care what Lincoln Laboratory endorses?</comment>