Why your company doesn't have an internal Google - <AUTHOR> https://medium.com/@francescolanciana/why-your-company-doesnt-have-an-internal-google-f01c13e53f1d <comment><USER2> We do have an internal Google at my place of work. It is called "Bing for business" and i will assume that many companies are using that too.

Here is a old article about what is

[https://blogs.bing.com/search/2017-09/finding-what-you- need-...](https://blogs.bing.com/search/2017-09/finding-what-you-need-at-work- just-got-easier-with-bing-for-business)

Edit: I am not the sysadm and Bing for Business might have changed name since the article i linked to was written but we definitely have a "internal Google" that makes information across all our internal properties searchable when using bing.com

</comment><comment><USER3> Note that elastic has an offering called "Enterprise Search".</comment>


Instant Free Memcached Server - <AUTHOR> http://instacached.com/ <comment><USER2> I fail to see the point: using _remote_ memcache (as opposed to "machines directly connected through a gigabit link"), the round-trip latency will at best erase the benefit of an in-memory cache; at worst, it will be _slower_ than using a disk cache AND have all the caveats of a remote service.

Am I missing something?

</comment><comment><USER3> Seems you've run out of ports... :)

</comment><comment><USER4> great. i'll just point my shopping cart app at this.</comment>


Unpublished rules and clarifications from Apple's App Review team - <AUTHOR> http://appreview.tumblr.com/

<comment><USER2> Reading about these rules and recent iPhone rejections/removals, (Google Voice...) I'm wondering if the project I'm working on might end up just being rejected... and the only way to know is to wait for the end of many hours of work.

I really love my iPhone but I'm starting to get annoyed and worried by the App Store.

<comment><USER3> Perhaps the best solution Apple could offer, _besides_ creating an unambiguous rule set, would be to offer an address to send app _ideas or designs_ for vetting before anyone bothers to implement them.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> Maybe we'll actually get an accurate picture of Apple's rules.</comment>


Iter8 CoFounder Hackathon (San Francisco, only 8 seats) - <AUTHOR> http://iter8.org/

<comment><USER2> Tell us more about who you are and what gets you excited before I waste time bragging about myself to an anonymous wall.

Also, far more minor, lack of clarity with the question Skype or XMPP => I'd just reply "XMPP" ;)

<comment><USER3> Fair points.

What kind of generic information would help you? We're pretty excited about graphs, social software, collaborative filtering, event coordination, behavior analysis, and collaborative editors, but would consider working on anything interesting with a realistic chance to succeed. We like iterating and letting the market guide us. These are roughly the things we agree on, and why we are considering to work together.

If you email us at email@example.com we can give you more personal info.

<comment><USER4> I think this is a good idea, but I had the same reaction to the lack of information. What I want is specific information, not generic. For example:

1\. How many of you are there?

2\. Why are you withholding your identities?

3\. Are there several organizers looking to find co-founders for several different startups, or are the organizers already committed to working together?

4\. Is the point to co-found companies with the organizers or will it be setup so that any two (or three) attendees have a chance to group together?

5\. Name one example of a "pretty impressive" thing that you've built. If you insist on being secretive could you give an example of a similar thing that somebody else built that was as impressive as the things on your resumes.

<comment><USER3> We are three right now, we're not sure if us (the initial attendees) will be matches - that's part of what we want to find out. we'd be happy if others find cofounders and we don't. All of us are already working on side projects, but are not far enough along for that to be a hindrance towards joining someone elses project. We don't want any special position over the other attendees - in fact you'll get root on iter8.org and if everyone decides to do a startup without one or all of us, we would not complain. We do this exactly to find out who to work with. We're secretive because we have jobs right now, and bragging anonymously doesn't work.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> 8 seats isn't very much.

<comment><USER3> Yeah we prefer small groups and focus on actually getting work done. We want to figure out by actions not words if some subsets of us would make good teams.

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> asked matrixownsyou on #startups to post this for us (our fresh account got autobanned by HN)</comment>


Don't wait for motivation to find you; go find it today. - <AUTHOR> http://www.schwarzenegger.com/fitness/post/motivation

<comment><USER2> It is easy to dismiss Arnold because techie types tend to disdain bodybuilding and acting as trivial endeavors. But, upon closer inspection, I find Arnold to have very impressive character and is well worth listening to.</comment>


Detecting asteroids, meteors takes on new urgency - <AUTHOR> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/17/russian-meteor-asteroid-b612-detection-satellite/1924633/

<comment><USER2> Rusty Schweickart (Apollo 9 astronaut) gave an interesting talk back on 2004 on "The Asteroid Threat Over the Next 100,000 Years" [1]. He said that we don't have any technology (space capable nukes, gravity tractors, laser deflection, etc) to prevent impacts. As far as I know this is still true nine years later.

He gave some useful probabilities for the likelihood of impacts with rocks of various sizes over long an short time scales, which puts the risk into context.

He also explained that if you could develop the means to deflect an incoming rock away from the earth, the same technology could be weaponized to deliver impactors towards points on the planet's surface.

Schweickart is involved with the B612 Foundation [2], who are doing work on impact prevention technology. He's co-chair of the NASA Task Force on Planetary Defense [3], which sounds cool.

[1] [http://longnow.org/seminars/02004/mar/12/the-asteroid- threat...](http://longnow.org/seminars/02004/mar/12/the-asteroid-threat-over- the-next-100000-years/)

[2] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B612_Foundation>

[3] [http://www.nasa.gov/directorates/heo/library/nac/planetary-d...](http://www.nasa.gov/directorates/heo/library/nac/planetary- defense.html)

</comment><comment><USER3> Why do problems like this only get tackled when there was a close call?

It's the same everywhere. Gun control discussions, nuclear power plant safety, anti-terrorism measures... it's a long list. Suddenly, governments and societies want action and funding there, where before no need was seen, when the actual situation didn't change.

(However, in the case of climate change, it might be just to late to steer things properly when the effects become clear.)

<comment><USER4> I think the funniest thing is that sure, we can detect an asteroid barreling towards us, but what the hell are we going to do about it? Maybe it's better _not_ to know. Some things are so completely out of our control that knowing it's going to happen could only cause more suffering.

I think the problem is that humans (or most animals, I guess) are just reacting to stimuli around them 99% of the time. So if something bad happens, we tend to waste time and resources making sure that same _exact_ thing won't happen again when life is adapting so much that chances are something _new_ will happen next time.

<comment><USER5> For example in this situation, warning could be issued to get away from windows and cover you in big octopus that will absorb all glass shards.

Something like this.

<comment><USER6> This happens once every 100 years.

The cynic in me thinks it's cheaper for society to just let it happen instead of using tons of money on teaching citizens to get away from windows in the unlikely event of a meteor.

How many citizens do you think would get away from windows if they receive an SMS telling them to? And how many who weren't at the windows would go stand in the window to look at the great shiny thing?

<comment><USER5> You sir, nailed every concern on the head. Same with fighting drugs, climate control, that shit eats money like there is no tomorrow and no effect.

Eventually when technologically we will be advanced this will/can be prevented.

Same with toilets, few hundred years ago we had none in apartments, now without one someone might die :D

I might be one of these people who would make whatever means to see meteor after warnings/announcements to go in underground bases(aka evangelion).

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> I saw Ed Lu speak at SETI recently. If you want some more background with visuals check out his tedxmarin talk:

[http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/Changing-the-Course-of-the- So...](http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/Changing-the-Course-of-the-Sola)

</comment><comment><USER8> W. Feller's volume II proves the renewal theorem from which we can conclude that the stochastic point process of arrivals of asteroids of some size and larger is a Poisson process, e.g., as in Cinlar's book. Then empirical historical data provides a good estimator of the arrival rate parameter of the Poisson process.

Net, we can know the arrival rate of dangerous asteroids, and, ballpark, it's one each some millions of years. So, we get to f'get about the problem.</comment>


How fracking for natural gas causes earthquakes - <AUTHOR> http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21120-how-fracking-caused-earthquakes-in-the-uk.html

<comment><USER2> This title seems a bit disingenuous, considering the actual article title is, "How fracking caused earthquakes in the UK". Like stygianguest said, it's about a causal link they found, whereas the title suggests that all fracking in all circumstances (for lack of qualification) causes earthquakes. Even the article says it's "difficult to say" if there will be more earthquakes caused by fracking.

Taking the article title as-is would have been far more accurate and less sensationalist.

</comment><comment><USER3> This is mostly about the causal link they found. Earthquakes of that magnitude are very common also in traditional gas extraction. Many tiles in my parent's kitchen and bathroom can attest to that. Small earthquakes are not a very strong argument against fracking. Perhaps there is a risk of bigger ones. For geothermal energy they also inject water at high pressures (but deeper) and have caused earthquakes up to magnitude of 5.</comment>


Little Free Library - <AUTHOR> http://littlefreelibrary.org/ <comment><USER2> I've watched the evolution of a few of these things. My experience is that even if people aren't _trying_ to be jerks then the quality of books inevitably goes down over time as people take the things they find interesting and replace them with things they find less interesting. You might think that since different people find different things interesting that this might work out in the end, but it doesn't seem to.

Add to this the fact that some people _are_ just jerks and will take books without replacing them, plus a bunch of people who see this as an opportunity to promote either their self-published books or their own political opinions, and you get a bookshelf rapidly being denuded of popular books and filled up with political tracts, dated "how to" books and obscure genre novels from the 1970s.

Compare this to, say, an ordinary public library, which allows you to freely borrow any one of many thousands of well-catalogued books as long as you return it in a few weeks.

<comment><USER3> So you're saying that curation can triumph over crowdsourcing.

<comment><USER4> Well, public libraries also need funding in order to do their curation.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> Cool! In Hamburg there are such mini libraries in some busses [http://www.hamburg.de/image/4027762/uncropped/690/518/bc2ce8...](http://www.hamburg.de/image/4027762/uncropped/690/518/bc2ce801e945acb192d536ee4d0ab6ef/sq/buecherbus- bild.jpg) and as I see here we already have one little free library too :) [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_%C3%B6ffentlicher_B%C3%BC...](http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_%C3%B6ffentlicher_B%C3%BCcherschr%C3%A4nke)

</comment><comment><USER6> "There is also a one-time payment of $34.95 per Library to receive a Steward's Packet of support materials and 1 official charter sign and number for your Library."

For that amount you can get 20-30 used books at a library sale to stock your little library.

<comment><USER7> I buy all my used books at goodwill. Its cheap and they always have all the popular books.

</comment></comment><comment><USER8> There's one of these near where I live in Atlanta. I always love seeing new books come in and out. Maybe I should stock it with some more technical topics...

<comment><USER9> I once found _Introduction to Algorithms_ in one, in Boston. I was impressed.

</comment></comment><comment><USER10> was downvoted for my previous comment, let me clarify, books are a known vector for bed bugs. libraries are facing this problem all over. a friend of mine worked at the columbia university library and had to go through freezing process on returned books.

all i'm saying is, books cost hardly anything, libraries have ebooks. why expose yourself to this problem?

google it if you do not believe me.

<comment><USER11> I have heard, through a friend of a librarian, that people actually microwaves books to kill bugs.

</comment></comment><comment><USER12> One thing I like about this concept is that it's based on people creating public space on their private property. They are well maintained, aesthetically pleasing, but also quite eclectic. Since these are typically set up by individuals on residential property, they aren't just token efforts – they aren't a disingenuous attempt to prove the person is community-minded (though I'm sure appearing community minded is a motivation, it's just not a disingenuous motivation ;)

I wish there was more of this. I'd actually like to put a bench in my front yard, facing the sidewalk – unfortunately people would use it to congregate and drink. But then, so it goes – there are other people near me who wouldn't have that problem, because these problems are typically block-by-block. For some reason _my_ yard appears like a perfectly good drinking spot, I'm not sure why, but I am very aware of it.

When benches are put in by the city, the person who makes that decision is not at all aware of these specific issues. They don't live with the result of the infrastructure they create. So we have another public bench near us that causes problems. Or often there are no benches available because they are seen as a nuisance, or the public space is rendered hostile in some fashion to discourage loiterers, which simultaneously discourages all enjoyment. These are the crude choices cities make because the people planning aren't intimately involved with the specific environments they are affecting.

(If I ever do something with the hill in my front yard I think I'd like to install a slide. I think that would be enjoyed but not abused. And if I'm wrong I'll have to figure out myself how to fix it)

</comment><comment><USER13> A while back, a local non-profit here in Flint, MI held a campaign and got a handful of these put up. It is amazing that, in a city where anything not bolted down is fair game for theft, these Little Free Libraries are (afaik) always stocked, and I have never heard any stories of people finding their LFL empty one morning. It does restore a little faith in humanity.

<comment><USER14> I expect vandals would have no interest in books as a whole. They wouldn't be vandals otherwise: there is something about the fragility and meaningfulness of books that makes one shudder at the thought of making physical violence to objects.

</comment></comment><comment><USER15> It's interesting to see this on HN. I came across one of these when randomly wandering a residential street in Toronto, and was thoroughly intrigued as I looked up the website on my phone. I didn't end up taking any of the books, but it did seem to be pretty well-stocked.

</comment><comment><USER16> Someone built on in my neighborhood and it stood for about a year before someone lit it on fire. It was rebuilt, hopefully it was just a random act of destruction and it will stick around this time.

</comment><comment><USER17> I saw something similar when I was Berlin, by the Grunewald S-Bahn station. There is a memorial platform of the deportation of Jews from Berlin and the area around the city called Track 17 (German: Gleis 17) and nearby the station entrance there's a converted phone booth (in bright "happy" colors) with books on the history and surrounding stories.

It seemed quite popular, with a few people sitting on the benches next to it reading (books presumably from the Book Booth)

</comment><comment><USER18> Here in Seattle, there are tons of these. There are probably 6 or 7 in my neighborhood alone.

It's a great idea, and a fun project for the community.

</comment><comment><USER19> There's one on my corner. It's also an Ingress portal. :) I stock it with kids books, mostly. And of course keep it shielded.

</comment><comment><USER14> I got all fired up and now I'm going to set one up. My carpentry skills are zero, so I'm thinking of just taking an Ikea Nornäs, painting it waterproof and adding a plexiglass door and a better roof (I have some spare tiles left from the previous owner that should do the trick).

</comment><comment><USER20> There are a number of these in Seattle.

<comment><USER21> Yeah, my neighbor has one... and she's nice enough to keep it in stock with childrens books for my daughter.

</comment></comment><comment><USER22> Sounds like a great idea until the city zoning board comes to tear it down. [http://reason.com/blog/2014/06/19/why-we-need-government- to-...](http://reason.com/blog/2014/06/19/why-we-need-government-to- prevent-9-year)

<comment><USER23> "Leawood said it has received two complaints about Spencer Collins' library."

</comment></comment><comment><USER24> These are everywhere in Minneapolis. I've restocked them a few times when a book purge is done.

</comment><comment><USER25> I've seen these throughout residential neighborhoods in Portland. Most seem to be stocked with romance novels or childrens lit, but my wife recently found a biography of Captain James Cook that she was planning to read.

</comment><comment><USER26> I drive by one of these every day in Vermont. I thought it was a mailbox at first. I hope these are self sufficient and don't get taken advantage of. It's a great idea.

</comment><comment><USER27> This is great. Had I the materials, I'd have gone to start building one half way through reading the front page.

</comment><comment><USER28> I've seen these in St.Petersburg, Russia ~month ago.

</comment><comment><USER10> watch out for bed bugs.</comment>


Inequality and Skin in the Game - <AUTHOR> https://medium.com/incerto/inequality-and-skin-in-the-game-d8f00bc0cb46 <comment><USER2> a previous discussion, [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13270116](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13270116)</comment>


Censored Photographs of FDR's Japanese Concentration Camps - <AUTHOR> https://anchoreditions.com/blog/dorothea-lange-censored-photographs <comment><USER2> Just another example of the extreme moral ambiguity of the West. We regularly ignore our own standards around giving people a fair trial when it suits the executive of the day or when some stupid condition applies ("race" in this case, geography and citizenship for eg Guantanamo bay). Not to mention "strategic" alliances with dictators down the years that have usually proven to be murderous. It is sad to think that the myth of our moral superiority has never been anything else.

Great photography, though.

<comment><USER3> > It is sad to think that the myth of our moral superiority has never been > anything else.

No, it's real, just not as real as we like to think. Between "imprison people of Japanese ancestry for the rest of the war, then free them" and "imprison people of Jewish ancestry, then kill them", there is a real moral difference. They are both wrong, but they are not equal.

<comment><USER4> So just because we didn't cause the Holocaust, we are morally superior? That's a pretty low bar and a ridiculous argument, but it says a lot about the American mindset.

<comment><USER5> I'm uncomfortable with some of the arguments being made here, too, but your first sentence is a rather uncharitable spin and your second one reads like a slur (though I'm sure you didn't mean it that way). Please don't comment like this here.

Instead, please post civilly and substantively, and make your comments _more_ civil and substantive on divisive topics, not less. That's the only way we can stave off a downward spiral in this place.

[https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html](https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html](https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html)

<comment><USER4> Please name one other way you can logically interpret that statement because I certainly see no other meaning whatsoever.

<comment><USER5> "Please name", followed by an invitation to a pointless meta argument, is a troll trope. That, plus that you didn't acknowledge the civility issue here, makes me worry that you're not interested in using this site in good faith. Please review the links I mentioned.

Edit: Actually, since there's evidence that you've violated the rules of this site many times previously, I'm banning your account until we get some indication that you'll stop doing this.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> One of the many reasons to oppose war.

Others include:

\+ Control of the economy, price controls, rationing, shortages

\+ Suspension of most (all?) of the Bill of Rights

\+ Wholesale slaughter of civilian populations abroad (so much for "all men are created equal ... with unalienable rights")

But perhaps the most nefarious is the idea that "we all pulled together and sacrificed to defeat the enemy." The government schools teach the children the greatness of our national effort, priming them to accept the destruction of liberty again when the next war comes. The state forever uses a victory in war to foster national pride and patriotism, as if the society made those choices to sacrifice _willingly_.

Speak out against the war? Prison. Fail to comply with economic controls? Prison. Don't want to fight after being drafted? Execution. Have friends who just happen to belong to the enemy country? You're a spy.

And then the icing on the cake is when the government steals the money to pay for the war through inflation and currency devaluation through the subsequent years.

<comment><USER7> We did not choose war willingly, the japanese govt made the choice for us when they attacked pearl harbor.

<comment><USER8> After the US et. al. cut off fuel and oil trade. They don't teach you that part in school.

The saddest thing about WWII is that the people who started the war, by funding it, were never brought up on charges at Nuremberg. Prescott Bush and Standard Oil made millions off selling fuel to both sides. IBM made the punch- card based catalogue service for the Nazis. Henry Ford's company made tank treads for both allied and Nazi tanks and even built the rails leading to Auschwitz.

The reality is that there were entire industries that actively did everything they could to get that war going, in order to profit from it. People look at Hitler and forget that wars need to be funded.

<comment><USER9> The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour was a strategic preëmptive strike, because they knew the US would come after their empire at some point.

I don't think Japanese imperialism can really be defended.

Of course, Japanese imperialism was very much inspired by European imperialism in… well, everything. But that doesn't make it right either, merely just as bad.

<comment><USER10> > because they knew the US would come after their empire at some point.

This makes it sound as if the US only acted to end competition against another Empire. Japan invaded numerous territories for access to resources and committed horrible atrocities while doing so.

The attack on Pearl Harbour may have been preemptive but the only reason for Japan to fear attack from others was due to actions of the Japanese.

<comment><USER9> > This makes it sound as if the US only acted to end competition against > another Empire.

Well, that might well have been the case. While World War Ⅱ did put a stop to some horrible things, I don't know if that was because they were horrible or merely because their perpetrators were a threat. I suspect the latter.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER11> "The very fact that no sabotage has taken place to date is a disturbing and confirming indication that such action will be taken." — General John L. DeWitt, head of the U.S. Army's Western Defense Command

Insane reasoning.

<comment><USER12> I came back after reading/seeing the photographs to post the same quote. My jaw dropped when I read it. Unbelievable, yet so topical.

</comment></comment><comment><USER13> This was appalling and obviously sucked a lot for people who underwent such treatment; however as someone born in USSR I'd say that it was surprisingly humane (hot water not always available) compared to how people were treated in the USSR around the same period.

Case in point: Ukrainian Holodomor (genocide by famine) [http://www.rferl.org/a/holodomor- ukraine/25174454.html](http://www.rferl.org/a/holodomor-ukraine/25174454.html)

Edit: also, Chechen and Krimean Tatar deportations, and many many others

<comment><USER14> Since these countries (in some form or other) still exist, it's tempting to start making moral comparisons and trying to figure out "which side you should be on". But that's not the most interesting approach, in my opinion. Future historians won't be picking sides, they'll be trying to put it in context, understand the conditions that led to these behaviors, and draw out trends in the period.

I can imagine a section in a future history textbook that went something like this:

"A distinctive feature of the Second World War was the widespread use of 'concentration camps'. These camps allowed belligerents to separate and control groups (usually racially defined) that were considered potentially subversive. In many cases, those interned were put to forced labor in support of the war effort, but in others they were simply kept under military control.

Conditions in these camps were generally poor, but they varied greatly both between and within countries. The Japanese in American concentration camps were subject to undernourishment and forced labor, but relatively few were killed. Things were worse in the Soviet Union, where even the process of transportation to the camps was deadly to large numbers of Volga Germans. The most infamous camps were in German-controlled territory, where millions of Jews and other undesirables were systematically executed, in an event later known as 'the Holocaust'."

<comment><USER15> I know you are trying to be objective and disinterested, but reading you combine the German and American camps as somehow comparable is utterly horrifying.

You make it sound like they were both more or less the same, just some people were killed in the German ones.

The goal of the German camps was to torture and kill, the American camps was to segregate.

The "camps" part is an unimportant detail - yet you write as if it's the main thing.

<comment><USER14> They are comparable, though, and that's exactly my point. They're not the _same_ by any stretch of the imagination, but it's just a weaker reading of history to refuse to consider themes that were common to the time period.

The Nazi camps were started for the same reason as the American camps: to contain and control a population believed to be subversive. They were indeed later used as part of an organized genocide, which is very important and makes them far more horrifying on a moral/human level, but it's willful blindness to ignore the deep similarities between a policy of containing and suppressing a racial group, and a policy of containing, suppressing, and exterminating a racial group.

<comment><USER15> These are not "themes that were common to the time period". These are themes that are common to human history, this type of camp was not invented then.

For example if you check [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment#History_of_internme...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment#History_of_internment_and_the_term_.22Concentration_camp.22)

you will find examples going back more than 300 years, and I'm sure a historian can find even earlier examples.

Internment camps of various kinds happen by EVERY war, not just this one.

> it's willful blindness to ignore the deep similarities between a policy of > containing and suppressing a racial group, and a policy of containing, > suppressing, and exterminating a racial group.

No, it's willful blindness to think this was unique in any way to WW2. "Camps" is NOT the important or interesting thing about that war, it is an almost trivial detail.

Your framing it that way makes it as if it was something specially important. But in actuality it is a minor footnote compared to what they DID in those camps.

It's like saying "An important note about the 21st century is that humans lived in houses. People in both apartments and individual homes had wide access to cellphones."

You are focusing on the wrong thing.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER16> "The very fact that no sabotage has taken place to date is a disturbing and confirming indication that such action will be taken."

 _THAT_ is disturbing "logic".

<comment><USER17> There was the Niihau Incident [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_incident](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_incident) where Hawaiians of Japanese descent helped a crashed Japanese pilot. But then ended up killing the pilot.

<comment><USER18> I'm pretty sure 2 native Hawaiians killed the pilot. The husband and wife. The Japanese locals ran off.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER19> The most absurd thing I read on here was that _they were still subjected to the draft_. So that Japanese couldn't be trusted to live in the United States without armed guards, but we can totally give them guns and send them off to fight the enemy?!

<comment><USER20> They were disallowed from fighting in the Pacific theatre, so they all fought in Europe.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(Unite...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_\(United_States\))

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Inouye#Medal_of_Honor_c...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Inouye#Medal_of_Honor_citation)

<comment><USER21> Interesting to note, this went both ways: my grandfather was a naturalized German immigrant, and was sent to the Pacific when drafted because he was disallowed from fighting in Europe.

But of course, for some reason, German Americans weren't interned...

<comment><USER22> Germans and Italians were also interned. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Italian_American...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Italian_Americans)

<comment><USER21> Yea, learned this today. Seems to be that it was of a significantly smaller percentage than of Japanese Americans though.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER23> I wonder if there is any connection between the internment camps for Japanese people living in the US & the CO camps. Were they both run by the Selective Service? I know, at least, the CO camps were. The government had really botched handling COs in WWI, to the point that it created a lobby group that when WWII broke out they eventually were able to successfully pass the Burke- Wadsworth Bill with a section that created the Civilian Public Service.

As an aside, WWI conscientious objectors were sent to federal prisons. There they were starved, put into solitary, or physically abused, resulting in some ending up dead. WWII COs were instead sent to camps to do things like farm, fight forest fires, build equipment, etc. in place of service.

</comment><comment><USER24> I would be interested to hear the perspective of some of the MP's that had to guard these camps. It would seem like such a waste, not least of which because with the labor shortages and so many other young men serving overseas, to not only be stuck guarding a camp but to be guarding camps full of people who would otherwise be helping to fill those huge labor shortages and support the war effort.

I just finished reading The Girls of Atomic City[1] and its a really conflicting story because (totally discounting the moral implications of the atomic bomb) on the one hand it is an amazing story of ingenuity and hard work and everyone coming together with a common purpose (even if most people did not know what that purpose was), but then you find out about how the black workers were treated compared to the white workers and how they weren't even able to serve their country as equals.

If you have a selective memory or perception you can look back and be proud of a lot in our history but I think you have to fully appreciate our highs and lows to really know what kind of country we have.

</comment><comment><USER25> For a country standing for Freedom and Human Rights, this kind of action is appalling. The quotes in the article from officials and three letters agencies stink of utter racism (even though no sabotage operations was ever undertaken).

<comment><USER26> As someone whose family ancestors were kidnapped to the US and forced to engage in unpaid labor I have to say this country never cared about freedom and human rights. It's all part of the national story designed to make the occupants of this country view themselves as better than the rest of the world.

<comment><USER27> Distorted exaggeration disrespects everyone. This country has struggled with issues of freedom and human rights, but it has made significant strides, and we should use them as an example of what to work for and what can be achieved.

<comment><USER28> They aren't really 'human rights' until they are applied to all humans. They're merely 'American Rights'.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER29> I did not know the ACLU fought against the Japanese internment camps. Donation forthcoming.

<comment><USER24> Given the climate of the US right now recurring donations to the ACLU and SPLC (among others) would be be appropriate, I've been encouraging as many people as I can to do so. The SPLC has been a little more directed at hate-groups and racism but I groups that have fought internment and the KKK to be very well funded.

</comment></comment><comment><USER30> Most of them were Japanese Americans, born in America. One wonders why German Americans weren't given similar treatment.

<comment><USER31> Because Japanese Americans look different from "the average American", while German Americans don't.

Also, Germans had been immigrating into the US since the year 1700 and intermarried widely with other groups. So it would be very hard to decide where to draw a line and say someone is "sufficiently German" to be interned.

<comment><USER32> This is entirely supposition on my part, from someone far too young to have lived through any of it, but I suspect it's less that Japanese Americans looked different, and more that Japan was a non-Christian culture, which made it easier to dehumanize people of Japanese descent.

The Nazis might have been evil but at least they were "like us" in that they shared a common heritage, religion and linguistic root with Americans. Japan, meanwhile, was portrayed in American propaganda as an inscrutable hivemind run by a primitive death-cult.

You can see the same strange mistrust of non-Christian culture applied to Muslims in America today - even though the vast majority in the world are not violent terrorists, many Americans suspect that Islam taints and "radicalizes" the mind with evil in a way that Christianity doesn't.

<comment><USER33> Do you really believe that it was because Japan is dominantly a non-Christian culture and not because they look different? No, it was because they weren't white. And America has, for a very long time and even now, been painted as a mostly white and african american culture.

Even in modern Japan itself ironically enough, it's hard for some people to really picture non-white and non-african Americans as Americans. The word 外国人 (gaikokujin) really only applies to foreigners of European and African ancestry. I believe it's hard for them to picture those Americans as Americans simply because of the image that has been painted of the country.

Sincerely, A non-asian non-african non-white American interested in Japanese culture

<comment><USER32> >Do you really believe that it was because Japan is dominantly a non-Christian culture and not because they look different?

I believe it was both - they're two sides of the same coin. Look at the propaganda of the time - the Japanese were portrayed as being fundamentally inhuman in a way that Europeans weren't. The myth of the "inscrutable Oriental" has been around in the West for a very long time, the Japanese mind and morality were considered to be incomprehensible.

That Japanese Americans looked different probably made this xenophobia easier to act upon, though.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER34> Thank you for posting this, for real, all of these photographs are truly beautiful in their own way. That is, they remind me a lot about Sebastião Salgado's work on portraying human beings in such emotionally harsh conditions [1] (which in fact was quite possibly inspired by people like Dorothea). I don't know what is most disturbing in that page though, the stories behind the photos or the quotes... man, the quotes... :-(

[1] I cannot recommend [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Salt_of_the_Earth_(2014_fi...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Salt_of_the_Earth_\(2014_film\)) enough if you are interested in this

</comment><comment><USER35> For anyone that doubts that America is capable of truly awful, horrifying things, well, guess what, we are.

</comment><comment><USER36> Australia also interned Japanese as well as Germans and Italians during the wars.

[http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/snapshots/internment- camps/...](http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/snapshots/internment- camps/introduction.aspx#section2)

The museum at Berrima is a good visit for people interested in war history.

[http://www.migrationheritage.nsw.gov.au/exhibition/enemyatho...](http://www.migrationheritage.nsw.gov.au/exhibition/enemyathome/berrima- internmentcamp/)

</comment><comment><USER37> > "They got to a point where they said, 'Okay, we're going to take you out.' > And it was obvious that he was going before a firing squad with MPs ready > with rifles. He was asked if he wanted a cigarette; he said no.… You want a > blindfold?… No. They said, 'Stand up here,' and they went as far as saying, > 'Ready, aim, fire,' and pulling the trigger, but the rifles had no bullets. > They just went click." — Ben Takeshita, recounting his older brother's > ordeal at Tule Lake Relocation Center, where he was segregated for causing > trouble

Jesus...

</comment><comment><USER38> Regarding Muslims in the USA, I worry about those in government who might revive this line of thinking:

"The very fact that no sabotage has taken place to date is a disturbing and confirming indication that such action will be taken."

— General John L. DeWitt, head of the U.S. Army's Western Defense Command

</comment><comment><USER39> "A viper is nonetheless a viper wherever the egg is hatched—so a Japanese- American, born of Japanese parents—grows up to be a Japanese, not an American." — Los Angeles Times, February 2, 1942

Depressing to think this is going to happen again, in some way.

<comment><USER9> The sentiment of that quote is already here, unfortunately. It just hasn't been fully institutionalised yet.

</comment></comment><comment><USER40> The recent speculation about a national registry for Muslims - and what that may look like - makes this even more poignant. The times may have changed, but fear and ignorance have not.

<comment><USER41> If you recall, we already had a Muslim registry, from 2002 to 2011: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Entry- Exit_R...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Entry- Exit_Registration_System)

<comment><USER40> I do recall that. Still scary that we even had that in place.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER42> Yay FDR! (And this guy still blesses the "Occupy Democrats" facebook page profile pic...)

</comment><comment><USER43> The Nuremberg trials determined that "deportations and persecutions on racial grounds" were crimes against humanity [1]. I don't understand how FDR's executive order to deport Japanese-Americans to internment camps allowed the Nuremberg judges to punish Nazi members on this charge.

[1] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_principles#Principle...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_principles#Principle_VI)

<comment><USER44> At the end of the day, the problem with hypocrisy are the parts you do _wrong_ , not the parts you do _right_.

America has done a lot of hypocritical things, but we shouldn't have held back from doing the right thing -- intervening in other countries to stop atrocities -- just because we were also guilty as sin. In an ideal world we'd actually be the pure, benevolent world police we imagine ourselves, but in the real world, confronting atrocities abroad has also made us better at home. Maybe we still have a long way to go, but a lot more Americans would have a problem with interment camps today, after making stopping the Holocaust such an important part of our national identity, than did in the 1940s.

</comment></comment><comment><USER45> If you want the book from 2006, it's available on Amazon.[1] Most of this material is available on line, from the National Archives or the University of California.[2][3] It's not new.

[1] [https://www.amazon.com/Impounded-Dorothea-Censored- Japanese-...](https://www.amazon.com/Impounded-Dorothea-Censored-Japanese- Internment/dp/0393330907) [2] [https://www.archives.gov/research/alic/reference/military/ja...](https://www.archives.gov/research/alic/reference/military/japanese- internment.html) [3] [https://calisphere.org/exhibitions/t11/jarda/](https://calisphere.org/exhibitions/t11/jarda/)

</comment><comment><USER46> It may seem frivolous, but the first thing that strikes me when looking at these photos is how well dressed the ordinary people were back then, compared with nowadays when apparently everybody dresses in rags. I can't help but think at some point something went very wrong.

</comment><comment><USER47> "The very fact that no sabotage has taken place to date is a disturbing and confirming indication that such action will be taken."

Orwellian logic. I always found this suspension of rationality particularly disturbing when reading about the internment camps.

</comment><comment><USER48> With today's political climate I can't help but think that something like this could happen again.

<comment><USER49> OT: I believe my reply was modded for the same reason [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13139991](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13139991) was flagged?

However, I provided citations (which I thought made the bar for substantiveness) and believed I was civil. Was I inciting flames by backing up the parent's comment?

</comment></comment><comment><USER50> Putting the obligatory moral condemnation of our deluded and evil forbears to one side for a moment, one can't help but notice that our darkest and most shameful national mistakes are nevertheless vastly more humane and benign than those of comparable societies. I would hope that episodes such as this inspire in modern Americans, beyond pure disgust, a desire to identify and nurture the national characteristics that enforced such comparative restraint.

<comment><USER51> I'm not sure I'd call the genocide of indigenous Americans "vastly more humane" than what other societies have done.

</comment></comment><comment><USER52> You know what is really disturbing? We don't know if such a thing can happen again _today_. It seems that the new US president got wiser, but what if he was real with his _threats_ to people who believes in a particular religion.

I'm not too immersed in US politics, but how likely is such a move? How are they going to determine them (possible suspicion?) and what kind of reaction will the civil society have?

</comment><comment><USER53> The interments didn't happen in a vacuum:

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_incident](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_incident)

It's also interesting to note that J. Edgar Hoover was opposed to the interments, but FDR overruled him.

</comment><comment><USER54> It is somewhat interesting that the term 'internment camps' is never used in the original quotes, it is rather 'concentration camps'. (It is possible that the latter term may have been used specifically in reference to the places of internment of the Japanese.)

<comment><USER55> I think that's because the term "concentration camp" is so heavily associated with the Nazi extermination programs. Likewise, there were Nazi concentration camps that were not designed to kill their occupants, and they're sometimes referred to as "labor camps".

<comment><USER56> My understanding is that the extermination camps were typically not part of the concentration camp system. Auschwitz was a notable exception.

From [http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n18/thomas-laqueur/devoted-to- terro...](http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n18/thomas-laqueur/devoted-to-terror)

"Auschwitz seems to overshadow all the other camps. It also captures our attention because we know a great deal about it. ...It was the only death camp (Auschwitz II) that was also a large slave labour camp (Auschwitz I), with the result that tens of thousands of slave labourers, having endured selections, random violence and the death marches, survived to bear witness to genocide."

"Most of those killed in the Holocaust were not inmates in concentration camps."

"Much of what we have come to see as the particular moral debasement of the concentration camps was absent in the death camps."

"[Extermination] camps were grotesquely efficient: Sobibor murdered about a quarter of a million people, a quarter as many as Auschwitz-Birkenau in one three-hundredth of the space and half the time. Precisely because of this efficiency, we know relatively little about the dead. There are only three survivors' accounts from Belzec, where, between 17 March and late December 1942, 434,500 Jews were murdered. As Primo Levi said, we know little of those who were truly at the bottom."

"Conversely, much of the story of the concentration camps does not overlap with that of the Holocaust. The camp system was a latecomer to the project of genocide. There was no representative of the KL [concentration camps] at the Wannsee Conference [which organised the Final Solution]. It was only after the conference that Himmler decided the camps could play a big role, not primarily as sites of immediate extermination but as reservoirs of Jewish slave labour. Only towards the end of the war, as Wachsmann points out, did the majority of Jews find themselves in camps and only for a few weeks in 1938 were they the majority of registered inmates."

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER57> If this kind of crap has to be done it should be done right. Provide adequate housing, food, transportation. Treat humans as humans, not animals.

<comment><USER58> This kind of shit should never happen. Period.

It is the duty of every decent human to fight this sort of tyranny by any means necessary.

</comment></comment><comment><USER59> Great to see that the HN week of censoring politics is over.

<comment><USER32> Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war!

</comment></comment><comment><USER60> The politics ban is lifted, and as usual, a complete degradation into the usual rhetoric.

People write a comment and think somebody's mind will be changed. Nope, not gonna happen. Just look at comments and replies.

It's just delusional thinking to think that HN is somehow above the fray when it comes to this stuff.

<comment><USER61> I share your frustration with the inflammatory discussion we can sometimes see here at HN. If this is something you care about, there are things you can do. Participate in discussions constructively and charitably. You're right about writing a comment and expecting someone's mind is going to be changed. I try to keep in mind that it's not necessarily about "changing people's minds", it's at least partly about understanding and making yourself understood first. Encourage good comments by up-voting them. Gently and neutrally point out behavior that's not acceptable on HN. Flag and down vote inappropriate behavior. For particularly egregious behavior, email the mods. That's part of being part of the community.

<comment><USER60> _Participate in discussions constructively and charitably_

The problem is that invariably the amount of destruction and uncharitable discussion outweighs the constructive and charitable discussion in these threads.

It's always a net loss on these types of threads.

These types of threads always put a stain on the reputation of HN as a place of intelligent conversation. There's some really immoral and despicable lines of thought in this thread.

<comment><USER61> Yeah, actually engaging in the discussion can be difficult and problematic. I don't think it's _always_ a net loss, though I agree that it often can be.

If you choose not to, the other options listed above are all still valid and valuable ways of participating and contributing to the community. I hope you do!

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER62> The Japanese pre-Cold War were treated unfairly but this pales in comparison to the many hell the Asian region have suffered under Japanese Imperialism.

At least they didn't get gassed like the Jews did. At least they didn't get bayonetted like the Chinese in Nanjing _en masse_ in graves or a military unit performing live surgery on them or forcing hundreds of thousands of young Korean women to sexual slavery.

It didn't help that there was heavy animosity towards Japanese from _Chinese & Korean_ Americans who felt compelled and directly/indirectly suffered as a result of Imperial Japan. There was probably deep desire for schadenfreude that contributed to Japanese Americans downfall.

But all that aside is clearly a small drop in the bucket. The view of Japanese and Asian Americans were explicitly _racist_. Nazi Germany was bad but the same elements of racial white superiority is a continuing theme even until the late 60s, where African American celebrities were forced to sleep in trailer parks while their white co-actors would lounge in swanky hotels (particularly angering Frank Sinatra).

There has been a miniscule effort from Reagan handing out 20k and an apology for the immense inter-generational trauma directly caused by the USG. There's little apology for Hiroshima and Nagasaki victims. This suggests to me a serious lack of reflection and it's evidenced by the fact that Muslim Americans today are facing a similar treatment.

I love the US but shit like this makes me pause for a bit. However, it still is _nowhere near_ the atrocities committed by Imperial Japan & Nazi Germany. But it's curious to see the stark difference in the way Japanese and German Americans were treated. German Americans weren't sent to interment camps and had their assets seized in the same manner as the Japanese Americans.

All in all, a tragedy and showing that a melting pot we-are-all-americans is a flawed policy-where everyone is American but some less American than others. Canada is no better off as they also had Japanese interment camps and showed little remorse.

Sometimes I wonder as Asian Canadian, are we truly accepted by the mainstream North American society? It makes me question what the Canadian/American dream. I think about just how much easier it is when your skin color matches the mainstream crowd and you don't stand out or have any biases held against you. The Japanese interment camp is just one of those many items that raises existential questions of being in North America, and it's not all that clear whether it's in the rearview mirror seeing how Muslim Americans are being treated today in the West.

I still do think North America is relatively a very accepting and open place. It's hard to fathom such level of integration in Europe or Asia.

<comment><USER63> "However, it still is nowhere near the atrocities committed by Imperial Japan & Nazi Germany."

The only question I have is: So?

Why do you feel the need to compare what the US did to other atrocities? You can always find something worse to compare a bad act to.

Nothing you said changes the fact that what the US did here was just plain wrong, it definitely shouldn't have happened, and we should do everything in our power to ensure it doesn't happen again. If you feel the need to make what the US did look slightly "less bad" by comparing it to other heinous events in the world, it might be worth reflecting on why you feel that need.

<comment><USER62> I'm not trying to minimize or say what the US did was less wrong but I'm arguing against people that use this as a crutch to support their what aboutism that attempts to paint the US in the same light as Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan. Clearly is night and day difference.

<comment><USER64> In fact, the exact opposite is the case: attempting to compare one of our national disgraces to the actions of Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan is itself an appeal to whataboutism --- the article we're commenting on is about the internment of Japanese-Americans, not about the Nazis.

<comment><USER62> yes I'm aware of the article's topic my point was a response comparing Nazi Germany's holocaust to internment of Japanese Americans. That isn't whataboutism, it's a fact. Japanese Americans weren't gassed or killed en masse by USG and that changes the equation. You are attempting to hijack the conversation into a circular argument by simply negating what I'm saying without considering the stark difference between _genocide_ and _politically motivated discrimination_.

Very different things. Neither are good but it's pretty clear which countries were the worse at offenses.

<comment><USER64> It's hard to understand where you're coming from, given that the topic of the article is Japanese-American internment.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER65> I thought this was no politics week.

<comment><USER37> It was ended early:

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13131251](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13131251) [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13133855](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13133855)

</comment></comment><comment><USER16> expected the 'notice' signs to be in japanese... ?

YES - I know that most of the folks were american-born-english speaking. But the paranoia _against_ them was that they were all working for the Japanese govt and all secret agents and whatnot. Would have made more sense to try to present info in their "own language".

Stating that you couldn't read the Japanese writing would be _PROOF_ that you are, in fact, a Japanese spy.

<comment><USER66> The occupants of Japanese internment camps in the U.S. were Japanese American.

<comment><USER29> Which makes it all the more ridiculous of a paranoid, senseless, knee-jerk internment.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER67> _FDR 's_ Japanese Concentration Camps? FDR's?

That's a blatant attempt to simplify a historical event and manipulate the modern reader.

Please spare me another rehash of how mean we became during the GOD-DAMN SECOND WORLD WAR, when our country and culture were under REAL threat. Please spend that energy examining our modern forms of prejudice and crazy fearfulness.

Also -- Why does no one ever want to rehash the post-war US-Japan relationship? In just a few years we transitioned from vicious, no-holds- barred warfare to a cordial relationship that became delightfully friendly. It's an amazingly positive story that belies the sort of institutionalized racism that some people feel the need to believe in.

<comment><USER68> Yes, FDR's Japanese Internment (aka Concentration) camps. Yes, really, FDR's.

If you give FDR credit for things like the New Deal (which were of course advocated by him but passed by the Congress), give him a bit of credit for his executive orders.

> [The internment of Japanese Americans] were ordered by President Franklin D. > Roosevelt shortly after Imperial Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor.[0]

> Executive Order 9066 was a United States presidential executive order signed > and issued during World War II by the United States President Franklin D. > Roosevelt on February 19, 1942. This order authorized the Secretary of War > to prescribe certain areas as military zones, clearing the way for the > deportation of Japanese Americans and Italian-Americans to internment camps. > [1]

[0] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_America...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans)

[1] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_9066](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_9066)

<comment><USER67> Saying "FDR's ... Camps" is like saying "Harry Truman's Victory over Hitler" or "Ronald Reagan's Space Shuttle." Again, it is an extreme simplification and an attempt to manipulate the reader into associating the act with the individual.

I'm amazed that many (presumably young) people want to wallow in this crap, apparently feeling superior to people who have been dead for decades. You have no reason to feel superior to the generation (and the individuals) who sacrificed so much to confront and defeat Fascism. Quite the opposite. Look around yourself.

<comment><USER68> That's interesting because we learn to associate positive policies and refer to them as FDR's New Deal (bills passed by Congress/signed by FDR), JFK's Peace Corp, Nixon's EPA, etc.

It's true that these policies are not made by one individual. But when we're crediting the presidents who merely signed bills passed by the Congress, should we not at least be give the same weight when they sign an executive order?

And I'm amazing that you're here generalizing what "presumably young people" do/think. It's not a matter of trying to feel superior.

Presidents are not good or bad, but rather, commit an array of decisions that lie in the spectrum. The decision to intern innocent US citizens (further regrettably by abusing data handed over by the US Census), unfortunately, lies in the spectrum of bad.

To only revere his positive actions and downplay the bad decisions made during his presidency (the Judicial Procedures Reform Bill of 1937 is another one) would be doing disservice to those interested in learning about US history (or history for that matter).

<comment><USER67> Thank-you for your replies and patience with me. (really)

"we learn to associate..." is a bit of a sad phrase. What we have done is experience a great deal of sloppy or propagandized reporting.

FDR's New Deal is a bit of an exception because, in addition to a set of programs, I believe it was purposely coined as a campaign slogan -- as was LBJ's New Society. When the verbiage was specifically created by someone in association with their own efforts it seems reasonable to include the name if it suits the writer's purpose.

Here's a challenge for your Google skills: Can you find a reference to the title "FDR's Japanese Concentration Camps" anywhere in a historical record? I see plenty of references to the linked article, but nothing older, much less anything from the war or post-war eras.

By the way, I am less bothered by the use here of "Concentration Camps", although I believe that's also propagandistic revisionism. Historically, they were called "Internment Camps." But they were evil and I'm not going defend the camps because they absolutely don't deserve to be defended.

It's ironic to note that photographer Dorothea Lange did much of her work as part of New Deal programs. It would be interesting to hear her opinion on her work being associated with a smearing of FDR.

in/re your amazement -- There's no question that we're talking about what "young people" think. The old people are mostly dead and mostly not commenting on HN. I'm not (or don't intend to be) generalizing about young people as a whole -- I'm generalizing about these Internet discussions, which are frequent and essentially identical.

The near-endless criticism of the way people behaved during those desperate times is graceless and smug. I believe that it IS a matter of trying to feel superior. I think it's impossible for someone born after the War to put all of this into a realistic perspective. We should try to learn, be humble and grateful for the incredible sacrifices of those who went before us.

Having said that, it's certainly legitimate to examine the historical period - to consider the mistakes. What could the US have done to allay fear and preserve security, and also respect the rights of ALL US citizens and residents? That's a big question - that should be approached with respect and seriousness. To start out by blaming FDR for the situation is unproductive and silly.

<comment><USER68> Thanks for taking your time as well. :)

To be honest, I do understand what you mean. It was a different time (and a time that's difficult for younger people like me to fathom) back then. The US was in a turning point of the century and fear, uncertainty, and doubt affected the decision that led to the internment of Japanese Americans.

I apologize if my criticism is coming off as smug or graceless. I certainly don't intend to, but I do dislike how we in the US tend to gloss over those we've wronged in the past because "times were different." It's fair to say they had their reasons for making those decisions in the past, but also fair to criticize the practice.

As for smearing the legacy of FDR, that is not my goal either. He was clearly an effective president and is consistently ranked as being one of the best US presidents of all time. But all too often we try and frame someone as being categorically good or bad, rather than being somewhere in the middle, which is what most people are.

Trust me, I dislike those who snidely point out MLK's infidelity, Jefferson and Sally Hemings, etc. But we should openly point out these facts and let them be judged as a whole, as a positive influence in US history DESPITE their misgivings, not because they technically didn't have any.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER69> It seems uncomfortable, but how does it compare to how the Japanese treated the Chinese during the war?

Its easy to look back now and think America was terrible but lets not forget that World War Freaking 2 was happening at the time. If your beloved son just got killed at Perl Harbor you probably would have no issue with this at all. Hell you probably feel like it is not bad enough.

Its just like all these self righteous people who want to call Bush an idiot for the wars. If your Wife, kids, friends were under a pile of cement in downtown Manhattan on 9/11 you would probably have no issue with bombing the f __* out of who ever you were told was responsible.

<comment><USER70> As a Chinese person, I recognize the Japanese did a lot of shitty things in the war and haven't acknowledge much of it, but comparing what they did to what the U.S. did to what the German's did to what the Russian's did is a meaningless exercise in relative privation. I'd hope that a country's conviction is not solely based on what others do and instead based on the principles that they stand for.

Secondly, by your justification of Japanese Internment, we could say that we should intern all Muslims in the United States because of 9/11, declaration of war by ISIL, and domestic terrorist acts. Or that all German's and Italian's should've been interned by the United States because of American soldiers killed by Axis countries. We should be very aware of the difference between people who come to the U.S. and build a life from themselves versus those who are actively participating in a foreign country. Aside from ethnicity/religion, they are not one in the same.

Also most people recognize Afghanistan as a justified retaliation especially when you consider the number of allies who decided to join in. But Bush was wrong for the Iraq War as it was justified on the flimsiest of 'evidence' and the nation building that happened afterwards was nothing short of a disaster (and that's based on testimonies from people who worked on that project over in Iraq).

<comment><USER69> Comparing what the Gernams did to what the Russians did sure relative privation:

Comparing what the Japanese did to China to what the Japanese could to the U.S. I do not think is relative privation but I could be wrong

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER71> Whenever looking at these pictures, it's worthwhile to consider how white (or any other color) Americans living in Japan were treated after war was declared.

Oh, that's right. There weren't any! The American government had some unique challenges in maximizing their chances of winning the war against a zealous and absolutely ruthless enemy (Japan). It would have been extremely irresponsible not to at least attempt to neutralize the threat posed by the population of first-generation citizens.

American authorities acted within their rights in making a reasonable effort to neutralize domestic saboteurs or collaborators by interning these people. Of course it's sad that it happened, but remember that battles such as Midway were won through superior intelligence and code-breaking. A single Japanese acting as a spy might have overturned that. It would have been very bad for east Asia had Japan won. They were committing numerous, documented war crimes and would have continued to do so.

<comment><USER64> It is in fact not worthwhile to consider how "white Americans living in Japan" were treated, because Japanese-Americans are American citizens, simultaneously not answerable to the crimes of Imperial Japan _and_ owed a basic obligation of the defense of their liberty by their fellow American citizens.

The internment of Japanese-Americans is a national disgrace because it harmed the fabric of the entire country, and every citizen living in it: that citizenship being in part defined by the duties and obligations we share to each other, as established by the Founders.

It was a betrayal of our founding principals, which is why every American schoolchild is taught about it.

<comment><USER72> If only that latter thing were true. It's not. It's especially not after years of the Republicans gutting public education and pushing expurgated, jingoistic, pro-American-exceptionalism textbooks through school boards everywhere.</comment></comment></comment>


What the Facebook Open Graph changes mean for Google and Apple - <AUTHOR> http://www.xconomy.com/national/2011/09/23/turning-the-social-network-inside-out-what-the-changes-at-facebook-mean-for-apple-and-google-and-you/

<comment><USER2> open graph still talks about web pages, sites, images, videos etc. none talk about a way to standardize ads; If we could make ads open and searchable on web sites, that would open a new era, far beyon schema.org or facebook opengraph. please see the discussion on robads, and open ads standard to make ads searchable and shareable on internet; <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3022998></comment>


New York State to Eliminate Cash Option for Paying Tolls - <AUTHOR> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/nyregion/new-york-to-eliminate-cash-option-for-paying-tolls.html <comment><USER2> The greater Houston area recently expanded its offering of toll roads. The effect is dramatic - it just feels like it's now possible to zip anywhere that's covered. I can only imagine the effect on carbon emissions - it has to be quite positive ( check the EPA estimates for city v. highway - there's a difference ).

However, I still see ( in cases the majority ) pulling over to hit the cash lane.

Are there that many people with credit bad enough to not be eligible for a TXDOT pass? Surely not the majority. Is it because people feel like they're being tracked? Is it some variation on a frugality exercise - sort of Dave Ramsay's "envelope" system? Maybe it's some grumpy expression of discontent with toll roads? So you're gonna sit in line to pay more, cash?

I don't get it.

<comment><USER3> It's a combination of education/credit card access/disposition against toll (EZPass guesses the numbers to pre-fill for you, people on tight budgets can't have $50 randomly disappear from their debit cards). Some people are driving cars they don't own.

There's other stuff that's less acceptable - suspended licenses/old registrations/out of state drivers can't keep their EZ pass up to date. There's also a decent amount of Americans living a cash-mostly lifestyle. Many many americans blackballed from ever having a bank account because they let one go too deep in the red.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> Hm, they've been caught before for trying to do something illegal; they are not allowed to give any form of discounts as a turnpike on the federal highway system. (To prevent perverting the cost structures to in-state user's advantage.)

Are they not going to charge fees for these paper bills when paid on time? Can one pay one in cash and without needing a stamp? Even if they've sorted those two out, a third of people not paying and that being made up in fines makes it sound onerous which is against the spirit of the rules.

</comment><comment><USER5> They aren't kidding: whenever these systems are deployed the agencies choose privacy-destroying versions. They could just as easily have a refillable stored-value version, but instead they have one that reports its subscriber number and is tied to a user's account. Resulting in a data stream that can be subpoenaed or simply inspected.

I guess people are just inured to this. Driver's licenses are full of info not required for driving.

Oh, and a mandatory snarky Manhattanite snicker for "Bridge and Tunnel Officers"</comment>


Show HN: MIDI Chlorian – Online MIDI Player - <AUTHOR> https://danielx.net/chlorian/ <comment><AUTHOR> Greetings friends, I made this online MIDI player because most OSes no longer have MIDI players included. Now you can simply go to a web page, drop in some MIDI files, and play them back accurately.

I hope you find this interesting, and I'll be glad to answer any questions about the tech :)

<comment><USER2> What samples was used? GUS?

<comment><AUTHOR> The default soundfont used is from here [https://github.com/DriverPackSolution/DP_Sound_Creative/blob...](https://github.com/DriverPackSolution/DP_Sound_Creative/blob/master/Creative/AllXP/CR25/Addon/Ct4mgm.sf2)

Under the hamburger menu there is a pulldown where you can select alternative soudfonts.</comment></comment></comment>


Ageism in the software industry: is it even rational? - <AUTHOR> https://medium.com/@hovm/ageism-in-the-software-industry-is-it-even-rational-ee6c10395800 <comment><USER2> It is rational in the head of executives who see developers as code monkeys toying with a keyboard in between 2 games of Magic The Gathering.

Senior people are more expensive, companies see programmers as a utility and don't want to pay 5x for a senior code monkey while they can pay 0.5x for a junior code monkey, period.

<comment><AUTHOR> But that's the point, the economy behind it is not obvious.

It is more often a cultural thing when 20-somethings working on their startup don't want a daddy to hang around with them. Corporations with strictly formal hiring procedures are usually less ageist.

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> Ageism is just a another way of saying wage suppression.</comment>


Living to 100 Days - <AUTHOR> https://zenpsychiatry.com/living-to-100-days/ <comment><USER2> Wow:

While I waited I wrote my will and made an Advanced Directive. There was a question where you could specify what you'd want to happen to your body after you died. I never thought I'd care about such a thing—why would I? I'd be dead anyway. But when I really imagined it, I did care. I wanted to be buried in a Jewish cemetery, somewhere nearby so the people who cared about me could visit. I didn't want to be forgotten.

But… none of that happened because the tumor shrank with chemo, and I went into remission. Then I fretted about finding a match on the bone marrow registry, but there she was—my little German angel. Then I worried she'd change her mind, or that the stem cells would get lost in transit (she donated her cells in Germany before they were couriered to Los Angeles).

I worried when I was admitted to the hospital while I got total body irradiation and high dose chemotherapy to eradicate my immune system and prepare me for transplant. I worried right up until I saw with my own eyes the bag of cells hanging off the IV pole as they were infused into my body. Now, I only had to wait and see if the cells took, or if a I developed a life- threatening infection, or if I got graft versus host disease, when the donor's cells attack your own body, which can have serious consequences.

But… none of that happened, either. Sure, I felt like shit in the hospital, but I didn't have any major complications and after a month I got to go home. I worried about infection but I didn't get one. I wasn't supposed to eat takeout but one day I was craving pizza so my mom and I ordered delivery and I ate the pizza and nothing bad happened (we did have to hide the pizza box evidence from my husband because he had an eagle eye on me to make sure I followed all the rules, which I found adorable. I've never seen someone use so much Purell in their life).</comment>


Download Free MSI Afterburner for Windows XP, 7, 8, 10 and Vista - <AUTHOR> <comment><USER2> One wonders where this interesting download lives since the OP didn't provide a link thereunto. :)</comment>


Taming the OOM Killer - <AUTHOR> https://lwn.net/Articles/317814/ <comment><USER2> I hardly can imagine situations when the OOM killer needs to be tuned so much. On my systems (notebooks/workstations/servers), it was always a user process which allocated much more memory then available. In such situations, OOM killer works perfectly, and on systems without swap, it is a questions of seconds when the system is back to stable. (With swap, it takes minutes to fill the swap before OOM killer activates)

On a productive and reliable system, I would rather invest in more RAM or load balancing then putting my time in fine tuning OOM killer...</comment>


Ask HN: What services require you to close your browser after logging out? - <AUTHOR> Office 365 has this weird thing that when I log out I have to close my browser before I can re-login with another account. Google and apple both offer services that don't require you to do this. But what other services require you to close the web browser when you log out? <comment><USER2> I would assume anything that actually did this was 1. having a serious bug. 2. Had somehow gained improper security access to the browser and should be investigated as to what is going on because it sounds like, super-insecure!

however I would also assume that I was wrong somehow and what I thought was going on couldn't be it. What have you done to ascertain that the browser really needs to be closed in order for Office 365 to allow you to re-login as another account?</comment>


Ask HN: How did Parrot Analytics measure viewership if users used Apple TV app? - <AUTHOR> https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/apple-tv-plus-series-launch-to-tepid-audience-demand-data-shows-1203393738/ <comment><USER2> Some "smart" TVs transmit samples of video from HDMI and streaming inputs to the TV manufacturers, who sell it to third parties and use it to target ads. Samsung is arguably the worst example. From [https://www.samsung.com/us/account/privacy- policy/](https://www.samsung.com/us/account/privacy-policy/):

"We may use automatic content recognition (ACR) and other technologies to capture this information. Your Smart TV transfers video snippets or TV tuner information in order to determine the programs watched."

I don't have any firsthand knowledge of the methodology in use here, but this seems like the most likely, if not the only feasible, source.

(Related: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21427405](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21427405), [https://twitter.com/simpleoptout/status/1191029269691957249](https://twitter.com/simpleoptout/status/1191029269691957249))</comment>


100M Photos – Geotagged, Connected, and Available for All - <AUTHOR> http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2016/11/15/100-million-photos-geotagged-connected-and-available-for-all.html <comment><USER2> I think it's totally misleading to say that the 100M photos are "available for all" and described as an "open repository of photos" when there is no simple way to download the full database of photos.

I understand that they want to charge $99 per month to embed photos since you could argue they need to pay for hosting but there are no instructions on how or if it's possible to download the full database of 100M geotagged photos, except for a "Contact Us" on their pricing page if you want "access to Mapilliary data".

Crowdsourcing photos by getting people to contribute with a headline "street level photos for everyone" and then charging for access seems like a hustle.

If the database is publicly available for computer vision research, please provide a link and make it more explicit!

<comment><USER3> I don't understand their headlines either.

They just raised $8M Series A on March, 2016 [1], and their business modell is basically about trying to serve you those crowdsourced photos made by volunteeers.

Like $249 / month if you are trying to use those images in your map [2].

There is nothing wrong with that, but I believe it's the opposite of "available for all" and "open repository of photos", as you've quoted as well.

[1] [https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/mapillary#/entity](https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/mapillary#/entity) [2] [https://www.mapillary.com/solutions](https://www.mapillary.com/solutions)

<comment><USER4> The photos are CC licensed. I think they plan to own the algorithms on top extracting value from the photos. But, I totally agree that there should be simple DB download.

<comment><USER5> The strange part is that while their legal page confirms the CC license [0], the homepage specifically says "All photos are free for personal, NGO, and educational use." which doesn't imply the same freedoms. Sounds like to me that they're not being completetly honest about the license.

[0]: [https://www.mapillary.com/legal](https://www.mapillary.com/legal)

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> This is great news, congratulations to the team at Mapillary!

All of this imagery is available immediately for use in OpenStreetMap editors like iD and JOSM. The OpenStreetMap project values "ground truth" observations as the most valuable source of information, and these photos let volunteer mappers easily verify conditions on the ground: [https://www.mapbox.com/blog/id-mapillary-js/](https://www.mapbox.com/blog/id- mapillary-js/)

If you haven't mapped with OpenStreetMap yet, give it a try. It _just so happens_ that this week is OSM Geography Awareness Week: [http://osmgeoweek.org/](http://osmgeoweek.org/) so there might even be a mapping event near you.

However you don't need a special event for an excuse to improve OpenStreetMap - it is a very unique project in that anybody can make meaningful contributions to the project immediately. Whether you realize it or not, you are the foremost expert in the world when it comes to - your part of the world.

I work for Mapbox, maintain OpenStreetMap's in-browser iD editor (I just released v2.0.0 today!), and I've done a fair bit of streetview imagery collection for Mapbox. Ask me anything!

<comment><USER7> Could you please recommend an Android library for displaying vector maps?

<comment><USER8> Mapbox GL is pretty great, as I'm sure the Mapbox guy will inform you. The performance and image quality is top-notch.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> On a side note, does anyone know if there's a way to self-host osm? Basically have my own google maps?

<comment><USER3> The best project by far is osm2vectortiles.org. It pretty much allows you to have a global OSM map on a USB stick, or render it live from a 4 GB VPS.

There is one critical issue which needs to be solved though, Mapbox reached out to them and asked them to rebuild everything from scratch [2], which means that it'll be a few more months before it's legally "safe" to use vector tiles produced by this project.

(disc: I'm just a user)

[1] [http://osm2vectortiles.org/](http://osm2vectortiles.org/) [2] [https://github.com/osm2vectortiles/osm2vectortiles/issues/38...](https://github.com/osm2vectortiles/osm2vectortiles/issues/387)

</comment></comment><comment><USER10> What is the license?

<comment><USER11> CC BY-SA 4.0

<comment><USER12> Where do they state this? A link is welcome.

<comment><USER13> [https://www.mapillary.com/legal.html](https://www.mapillary.com/legal.html)

Also in their API docs: [https://a.mapillary.com/#images-and- sequences](https://a.mapillary.com/#images-and-sequences)

As far as I know, that license does _not_ include the image metadata, which really is one of the more interesting parts of an image collection like this.

<comment><USER14> The image metadata is _not_ covered, which prompted the creation of OpenStreetView [+].

[+] [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetView](http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetView)

<comment><USER15> I tend to speculate that OpenStreetView was started by people inside Telenav because they thought it would be cool to work on it. They built a feature to talk to OBD II dongles, which is pretty far afield from image metadata.

We should also probably start calling it the street photo thing that hasn't been renamed yet.

<comment><USER14> > I tend to speculate that OpenStreetView was started by people inside Telenav > because they thought it would be cool to work on it.

A rising tide lifts all boats. I'd just like to see the entire geospatial stack all the way up to street view open sourced. I'd hate for the world to start to rely on Mapillary, their funding run out, and then ArchiveTeam has to go grab all 300TB of data and put it in cold storage until a new interface is built. Yuck. Let's just do it right from the start.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER16> I really do not understand the transition slider between images, it is so ugly.

<comment><USER17> It looks like an attempt to warp between the images, but it's not matching up the features correctly. It works a little better in the "around the world" examples. Some parts just fade or have the wonkywarp effect, but it produces a smooth transition in other parts. [http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2016/11/15/around-the- world...](http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2016/11/15/around-the-world- in-100-million-photos.html)

<comment><USER16> I think those are two different effects being applied, I agree the second one is working nicely.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER18> How big is a full archive of them all?

<comment><USER15> I asked in the #osm channel on irc and someone pointed at:

[http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Mapillary](http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Mapillary)

(You can download originals now, that page isn't fully accurate/up to date).

Hundreds of terabytes seems to be a reasonable guess in any case.</comment></comment>


Music Animation Machine Notation - <AUTHOR> http://www.musanim.com/mam/closer.html

<comment><AUTHOR> For examples see <http://www.musanim.com/watch/>

J. S. Bach's Air on a G-string, from his 3rd orchestral suite in D major on youtube (just for convenience, note that vimeo has better quality of his videos): <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2j-frfK-yg>

Or Eine Kleine Nachtmusik, 1st movement, Allegro I've listened and compared my impression to the animation and now I see, even when looking at it the most interesting parts are not obvious _to see_ but to hear: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QHzI5HmXl4></comment>


Get notified about every Hacker News submission (OSX) - <AUTHOR> http://www.azac.pl/hn/

<comment><USER2> Nice one!

Are you posting the source anywhere?

<comment><AUTHOR> not before I clean up the code a bit - just hacked that together, and variable names are still in Polish :)

it's really basic anyway: html parser + NSUserNotification + NSSpeechSynthesizer, I think it's 5 mins to replicate for anyone acquainted with XCode (I'm not using it on a daily basis, so it took an hour or so)</comment></comment>


Show HN: World's Biggest Crossword App - <AUTHOR> Hi, we (two man company) have just release what we think is the world's biggest mobile crossword (single grid of 103x103) for iOS and Android. It plays pretty well all the way down to iPhone 5 (a wee bit small to be honest!).
Looking for any feedback especially around any novel (read cheap) ideas on the marketing/promotion front.
The retention on the app is awesome once people get started, but as it is a single grid the life time value is pretty limited. I think part of the appeal is the fact you can finish it so it is a mixed pleasing.
Cheers, James
ps - we are UK based, but we have made quite a lot of effort to avoid / callout where it is a UK term/spelling.
https://www.thebigcrossword.com/ <comment><USER2> When you get a word right it shows an annoying annimation which makes me want to stop playing. Is it possible to turn this off?

</comment><comment><USER3> Just sent it to my crossword loving grandparents :)</comment>


No More FAQs: Create Purposeful Information for a More Effective User Experience - <AUTHOR> https://alistapart.com/article/no-more-faqs-create-purposeful-information-for-a-more-effective-user-experi <comment><USER2> I agree that the information has to be purposeful and written so no questions arise. However, I think it purely depends on the product. A FAQ is good when you have a technical product or so</comment>


The Plural of E-Mail - <AUTHOR> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/09/magazine/09FOB-onlanguage-t.html?ref=magazine <comment><USER2> There is a related debate in Japanese as to whether emails are events, which means you count them one way, or communications, in which case you count them the other way. They haven't been letters for most people in a decade, which is good, because that means you count them a third way. My ex-boss, however, maintains that they're "fundamentally equivalent to paper", so you count them a forth way.

<comment><USER3> This is straight out of Borges' "emporium": <http://www.multicians.org/thvv/borges-animals.html>

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> A single item of _mail_ is a _letter_ (or a postcard, etc.), which can be pluralized. A single item of _email_ , on the other hand, is an _email_ , which can also be pluralized.

</comment><comment><USER5> In any event, it's time to move from _e-mails_ to _emails_.

<comment><USER6> Knuth agrees with you (see the bottom of the page):

<http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/email.html>

</comment></comment><comment><USER7> emails works because we use "email" to refer to a single email message. Contrast to use of mail, which never refers to one piece of mail.

</comment><comment><USER8> At one point someone at work who should have known better wrote "eMail packets" so that's what we use. "you have an incoming eMail packet", "check your eMail packets", etc.</comment>


Show HN: osod.im (one sentence, one day - a one sentence journal) - <AUTHOR>

I'm trying to get the motivation up to actually finish building out a "real" product, and I found myself needing a "win" to keep my momentum up.  So, I hacked out a little one sentence journal app last night.  I experimented with a few UI things (e.g.., the autosaving of the sentence for today and so on), so it was a good learning experience also.<p>You can check it out at: http://osod.im <comment><USER2> If you're looking to cultivate this into a long term project, I'll offer some tips:

1\. Notifications are going to make or break you. I had signed up for OhLife.com 2 years back and it emails me every single day with a gentle reminder to write about my life. It also chooses a random entry that I've written in the past so that I actually look forward to reading what banal things I had written about. Prioritize this over all else.

2\. Support email entries. I have visited the OhLife website about 3 times in the last 2 years. My main interaction is through email. It also lowers the barrier to actually composing an entry. Your users can create and refine drafts throughout the day and only send it across when the reminder email comes in.

3\. Create a mobile app (lower priority than the above two). I've found that my most profound thoughts and exciting experiences are when I'm traveling. A mobile app is exactly what one needs during those times (Note: I use the word "app" loosely. It could just be a mobile-friendly UI for your website)

4\. With apps/websites like these which solve one specific problem, it's always best to keep the feature set very minimal (even though as a developer your likely motivation will be to keep working on new features).

Good luck!

</comment><comment><USER3> Clickable link: <http://osod.im>

Nice job! I love self-tracking. This is very similar to <http://280daily.com/>

I've been using 280daily for quite awhile now. It's really awesome to look back at random days months ago and recall what you did or didn't do.

</comment><comment><USER4> Nice! Great idea!

However, your quote on the front page makes me think: Will osod.im be here years from now?

I love the concept, but I would hate to loose it if I did choose to start writing a sentence a day, describing what I've done or thought about. If only to look back at it once myself or potential children. Have you considered 'open sourcing' it? Making it self-hosting.

It would also be neat to have a bit more settings, like whether or not stuff should be public, etc.

But I read that you hacked this in one night and might not have thought about all this (but I hope you do now!)

</comment><comment><USER5> I really like this kind of stuff. Have you looked at iDoneThis (<https://www.idonethis.com/>)? Similar in concept but a couple differences, namely that iDoneThis entries can be done through email.

</comment><comment><USER6> interesting app. i signed up. my first entry: "i signed up for one sentence, one day. lets see if i like this"

<comment><USER7> Perhaps a semicolon, next time? :)</comment></comment>


NASA brings Voyager 2 fully back online - <AUTHOR> https://www.inverse.com/science/nasa-brings-voyager-2-fully-back-online-11.5-billion-miles-from-earth <comment><USER2> This is the furthest-away good news (11.5 billion miles) you will hear today.

If you think of human-kind as having an expanding sphere of influence, Voyager 1 and 2 represent its leading edge.

V1: 42 years, 5 months, 2 days elapsed, 13.8 billion miles.

V2: 42 years, 5 months, 15 days elapsed, 11.5 billion miles.</comment>


Ask HN: Creating Niche Web/Mobile Ad Network - <AUTHOR>

I've identified an opportunity in creating an ad network for a niche market.
I have the connections with both advertisers and content publishers (blogs, mobile apps, etc) to really try and make a go of it.
What tools are there to manage such a network? Ideally, I'd be looking for a solution that allows me to sell ads within our network, and have content publishers easily display those ads.
Any help would be hugely appreciated. <comment><USER2> I think what you want is ad serving technology. For most ad networks, the technology for serving ads is their secret sauce, because after that it's about having sales people contact advertisers and publishers.

Try to shop around different ad servers first and get a bunch of demos. OpenX, Zedo, AdJuggler are all decent for someone just starting out. Then, as you find it is indeed a viable business for you, then you can take your experiences with existing ad serving technology and build your own custom one.</comment>


Reminder: June 30th leap second - <AUTHOR> https://twitter.com/johnjawed/status/615644170275848192 <comment><USER2> I just know I'm going to forget and write "July 1" on all the checks I write then anyways</comment>


Atoms are Not the New Bits. Yet. - <AUTHOR> http://blog.thingiverse.com/2010/03/01/atoms-are-not-the-new-bits-yet/

<comment><USER2> I would love to know what the heck this guy is talking about, but I have no context. One of my very good friends is working on a startup in this space, and thus I might potentially find this post really sweet.

Secret to blog post writers: please give us context. What are you talking about? Secret to this post: Who originally said "Atoms are the new bits"?

<comment><USER3> It was on Wired some weeks ago: <http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/01/ff_newrevolution/all/1></comment></comment>