Fordlandia – The failure of Henry Ford's utopian city in the Amazon - <AUTHOR> https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/aug/19/lost-cities-10-fordlandia-failure-henry-ford-amazon <comment><USER2> The article really softpedals the whole "civilize the heathen savages" angle. When Ford said he wanted to "develop" South America, what he meant was that he wanted to teach the locals how to behave like his idea of proper white folks. Racial segregation was built-in. Not just alcohol but tobacco, women, and--for some reason--football were forbidden in Fordlandia, and inspectors could demand entry at any time to make sure you were following the rules. Workers were required to work through the traditional (and very sensible, in that climate) midday siesta. Ford was even determined to make them _eat_ like American whites--they were given only American food to eat, nothing local. The riots the article blames on a bricklayer's dispute with a supervisor were, according to Wikipedia, a revolt against the food--menu concessions were only made after the riots.

<comment><USER3> Very interesting!

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> I recently read Grandin's book after learning about this from a Priceonomics article. It's fascinating not just for the way that it ultimately failed, but also the level of power and influence that Henry Ford had at the time to be able to do it at all...

The Ford Company was privately held, and what Henry Ford said, went. Enormous amounts of time, money, and manpower went into developing this colony, on the back of ideology as much as the promise of economic return.

The closest examples I can think of in modern times for this kind of project are in folks like Musk and Allen (and his Vulcan real estate development group), but they are much more capitalistic in motivation.

<comment><USER5> I have heard that pre-WW1, pre-WW2, and pre-atom bomb, there was a culture of hopefulness and idealism that we could soon cure all humanity's ills with technology and progress.

Unfortunately, those events served to at least partially extinguish that dream.

<comment><USER6> It's definitely coming back, that hopefulness.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> Not to latch on a minor turn of phrase, but it is a shame we've replaced the "employee relations office" with "human resources".

</comment><comment><USER8> Great soundtrack, too, by Jóhann Jóhannson: [https://open.spotify.com/album/2I4uGgkMgN3UGE8ZQjCMjB](https://open.spotify.com/album/2I4uGgkMgN3UGE8ZQjCMjB)

<comment><USER9> I came here to suggest the same album. Here's the artist's page for it: [http://www.johannjohannsson.com/discography/fordlandia/](http://www.johannjohannsson.com/discography/fordlandia/)

And this is nitpicking, but you did include the accents ;-) — it's Jóhannsson, with two _S_ es. (It's basically "Jóhann's son".)

</comment></comment><comment><USER10> Another example of how culture eats strategy for breakfast

Ford wanted to make Fordlandia a model _american_ city, forgetting about the culture of those brazilians he was employing

It also seems he never asked the locals how to plant rubber trees. And even though it was "in the Amazon" it might have been a bad place for the rubber trees

</comment><comment><USER11> There's a good overview--albeit a much more pessimistic one--of Fordlandia in Bill Bryson's book _1927_.

</comment><comment><USER12> He planned a eutopia, and ended up with a utopia instead.</comment>


Interview with Susan Fowler - <AUTHOR> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/21/style/susan-fowler-uber.html <comment><USER2> Hey engineer at Uber here. I'm a male engineer started working at Uber two years ago. I'm seeing a lot of comments here that is discrediting Susan Fowler's accomplishments in taking TK down, and I would like to correct the notion that the culture/TK himself/Waymo is what brought TK down.

To preface I've work both at Google as an engineer, and frankly speaking the engineering culture at Uber didn't differ all that much. Both org had the same amount of soft misogyny, politics, and HR that protected its highest performers. In fact a lot of characters mentioned in Susan's blog post works at Google today. So what led up to the downfall of TK? Susan Fowler's blog post. What she described is what a lot of people go through in every company, but she was brave enough to post her experience using her real name. I'm willing to bet if she never posted her blog post none of this would've happened, and it would've been business as usual at Uber.

Susan Fowler exposed the weakness in our culture and it catapulted an internal French Revolution where every head had a possibility of getting axed. This put our executives in a disarray and naturally external enemies decided to strike at us when we were weakest. The Waymo lawsuit only happened when it did and only effective as it was because of the chaos Susan Fowler initiated.

So please stop discrediting Susan Fowler, what she did was really the catalyst, the trigger, for Uber to set course on a better path. It's just too bad she wasn't able to stay and see the real impact of her words. Ubers a great place to work now.

<comment><USER3> _> The Waymo lawsuit only happened when it did and only effective as it was because of the chaos Susan Fowler initiated._

This seems a bit much. Why on earth would Google wait to sue? Their case was not at all dependent on internal turmoil at Uber.

Fowler deserves a lot of credit but there was significant chaos pre-blog-post (#deleteuber) and after (Greyball). Uber was having a new crisis every other week it seemed, all stemming from a cavalier, bro-y culture. That all added up, Fowler's post included, to a leadership change.

<comment><USER4> I think that Susan Fowler is the single most influential individual in Uber's history, even more so than Travis Kalanick.

1\. #deleteuber was a flash in the pan. It fizzled because it was based on a falsehood, that Uber had broken an airport strike by cancelling surge. Uber cancels surge for all notable events. Lyft somehow avoided judgement, despite also failing to honor the strike. The impetus behind the campaign was a combination of that strike action and Kalanick's presence on President Trump's ill-fated executive council.

2\. Greyball is a multi-million dollar suit, it will likely be settled for less. Because Uber was only foolish enough to abuse it in a couple of cities (according to news stories and law suits, who knows what legal discovery will unearth!), the scope is limited. Furthermore, the cities that ban Uber also ban Lyft.

3\. Lyft's meteoric growth in 2017 can be primarily linked to the sexual harassment stories about Uber. They even based their entire advertising campaign on it, "how you get there matters," emphasizing the moral superiority of using Lyft over Uber. The ad campaign is incredibly poignant and effective. Lyft has deftly turned the fiasco to its advantage.

Susan was able to accomplish what no person had successfully done by publishing an account on her blog of what happened. Because she had not sued the company for damages, she was not held to silence from a legal settlement. Any opponent claiming she was an opportunist had no evidence, because she didn't file suit nor was seeking damages.

Because of her, an entire chain of events was set off. The intense public pressure, that slammed customer growth, hampered recruitment, and impacted Uber investors' social lives (yes, that was a major factor!) was primarily from Fowler's revelation of the company's indifference to sexual harassment.

<comment><USER5> > #deleteuber was a flash in the pan. It fizzled because it was based on a > falsehood, that Uber had broken an airport strike by cancelling surge. Uber > cancels surge for all notable events.

Not to get too caught up on this, but #deleteuber was in response to them being perceived as breaking the strike by operating at the airport _at all_. So the fact that they cancel surge for all events wasn't accepted as an excuse. Canceling surge just provided more fodder.

<comment><USER6> Partially but again, Lyft did the same as Uber.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> I wish the article connected the dots of her path from studying physics at the University of Pennsylvania to working as an SRE at a San Francisco tech company. It seems like that might be an interesting part of her story.

I loved the anecdote of her buying her own leather jacket when Uber couldn't be bothered to buy them for women. Brilliant.

The title is a bit unfortunate in that it makes her sound like an Attorney General but that's nothing to with her but the NY Time's Maureen Dowd who has a penchant for sensational titles.

<comment><USER8> >Uber couldn't be bothered to buy them for women

Let it be known the manager who made the decision not to buy jackets for women only worked at Uber for a year, made a magnificent mess of SRE, and went back to Google with a more senior position. This same guy made a data science manager (who has a PhD in theoretical chemistry) take notes during his meetings, and who coincidentally was one of his only female reports.

Fuck you NSK.

<comment><USER9> The fact that the old Uber HR did nothing to prevent sexual harassment clearly puts the blame on (upper) management. Yet, the specific cases involved people lower down the chain, and it is indeed a revolving door between Google, Facebook and other prominent tech companies. The same bad actors are still around and just have moved on.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> I think the one good thing about the Harvey Weinstein scandal is that it has brought to light that the issue of sexual harassment is not just a Silicon Valley problem, it's a problem that is almost universal in our country. I've written here several times here that articles similar to this one are more likely to backfire as they help perpetuate the idea that the tech industry is hostile to women and they should stay away. I've been thinking the best way to eliminate sexism in tech is to bring more women in to the industry. But hopefully, this increased awareness throughout the country will bring it to an end, not just in tech, but in every sector of the economy.

<comment><USER11> Let's be real, males using positions of power to obtain sex isn't exactly a US-only problem, it's fundamental hardwiring of virtually every primate species.

I don't think any country at this point is particularly amazing at containing those primal tendencies, but happy to be proven wrong.

Either way, just like with violence and crime, we need to continue the journey of education of what is and is not acceptable behavior in the civilized world in 2017 and hope that that, combined with the legal system, keep those primal urges (that evolve much slower than our technology and our moral progress) in check.

<comment><USER12> Saying it's "fundamental hardwiring" is not science, it's speculation at best. Figuring out what's cultural versus genetic in humans is a difficult scientific problem that can't be solved by vague analogy to other species.

If you want to be "real" just avoid pseudo-scientific claims altogether. If you think there's science behind something at least cite a paper.

<comment><USER11> Not posting links to papers also doesn't automatically make what I said any less true.

<comment><USER12> True or not, it means that between two strangers on the Internet, there's no reason to believe you.

"Why do you think that?" "Someone in an Internet forum said so."

Nobody does that.

Telling stories from personal experience sometimes works. (Take Susan Fowler's essay for example.) Linking to articles from credible sources can work (for example, the NYT article). Asserting scientific statements without backing it up doesn't.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER13> Good profile overall, but I think it should have delved a bit more into her visible accomplishments before the blog post. This wasn't some random person levying these accusations, it was someone who'd spoken on multiple occasions and written a book for O'Reilly. Had she had a lower profile, the blog post might have been received very differently.

</comment><comment><USER14> While her post did send shockwaves inside Uber and the Silicon Valley at large, I think, it was Mr. Kalanick's incriminating involvement in the Waymo - Uber lawsuit that ultimately sunk Mr. Kalanick. He simply had to go.

<comment><USER15> Susan's a great mind and I have had the pleasure of chatting with her in person, but there is definitely some historical revisionism going on here.

Travis created a bad Uber culture in general. He was done in not by Fowler specifically but the fruits of his failures as a leader blossoming into several parallel disasters of which Waymo was probably the major major fiasco of the bunch.

<comment><USER16> Pretty sure VCs smelling blood in the water is what took Kalachik down. Consequences of denying company of its do founder were obviously overlooked. Overall, if you read something by Susan Fowler, read her book instead

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER17> I don't see why teaching that ethics comes before career isn't a priority. There's a validation that either the victim or the enablers are put into a morale delma to worry about their career over ethics. Shouldn't we be addressing that too? That there is no dilemma, it's just a regrettable mistake to do that.

</comment><comment><USER18> Her background is pretty non-traditional. Such people tend to be independent and consequently have a lot of integrity -- they do the career destroying things that almost nobody does.

        The only woman on the board then,
        Arianna Huffington, who had vowed
        that the culture of "brilliant
        jerks" must end, had been trying
        to help Mr. Kalanick by advising
        him to sleep more and meditate.
        But he caused another kerfuffle
        when he chose to meditate in the
        lactation room.

This sounds like an environment where people were really banking on no one ever saying anything about anything -- which is just not a prudent thing to do.

<comment><USER19> > Her background is pretty non-traditional.

Howso? There are quite a few Ivy League physics grads in the bay.

<comment><USER20> I suspect the original comment was referring to the home-schooling and intense Stoic education early on. Ivy League physics grads are indeed pretty part-and- parcel; people who had to go to Dean's office to get in, less so.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER21> Bit off topic. The article mentions a book about ants. Any ideas what it is?

<comment><USER22> No idea, but just go on Amazon and buy a book on ants if you want to learn more about them. And you should. To quote E.O. Wilson, "If you're not interested in ants then you're probably not a very interesting person."

</comment></comment><comment><USER10> > "Did you read that interview with the C.E.O., Travis, where he talked about > how Uber helps him get girls? He's a misogynist. I could never use his > product."

I know nothing of the interview he's referring to here, but how is it misogynistic to use your company to get girls? Was he picking up Uber employees or potential hires?

<comment><USER23> The phrase "get girls" is even itself misogynistic since it's already an objectifying phrase. That doesn't necessarily mean that the person using it otherwise deserves being judged and identified as a misogynist. But the judgment of Travis is probably based on a lot of other factors than that one phrase.

</comment></comment><comment><USER24> > "I think, right now especially, with Trump in the White House, who knows > what's going on with North Korea?"

Why are people so worried about going to war with North Korea? There are concentration camps in North Korea. Are South Korean and American lives worth more than the lives of those in concentration camps? The USA tried to create a free Korea during the Korean War and failed because of China and Russia. We need to try again to clean up this mess.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoeryong_concentration_camp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoeryong_concentration_camp)

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yodok_concentration_camp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yodok_concentration_camp)

<comment><USER25> I'm not at all confident in the ability of the US to "clean up this mess". Similar arguments were made before the war in Iraq. I won't defend Saddam but I don't think you can argue that the average Iraqi ended up better off.

<comment><USER24> Stalin and Mao supplied Kim Il Sung in the Korean War because they didn't want democracy to spread to Asia. China and Russia are still obstructing the US with the same goal of preventing democracy. If we don't do it no one will. The Kims have proven their ability to retain power.

Some people think death is better than having to live in North Korea:

[http://www.worldtribune.com/senior-north-korea-official- and-...](http://www.worldtribune.com/senior-north-korea-official-and-family- commit-suicide-while-in-chinese-police-custody/)

<comment><USER26> Russia and China govert have no problem with foreign "democracy", just like USA has no problem with communism, per se. They are all just opposed to small nation's allying with their enemies.

The history of USA and Latin America makes this clear.

<comment><USER24> After Stalin died his letters were released and he was denounced. His letters confirm that China and Russia did have a problem with democracy and that it was the impetus for their support of Kim Il Sung during the Korean War.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER27> Susan Fowler's narrative is sort of the "dual" of the myth of the "little dutch boy" who stuck his finger in a dyke, preventing disaster through a very small act.

[0] [http://www.pantheon.org/articles/l/little_dutch_boy.html](http://www.pantheon.org/articles/l/little_dutch_boy.html)

<comment><USER24> I enjoyed reading that, but why did the boy put his finger in the hole if he was worried about being late to school?

<comment><USER28> The phrasing is confusing, but I think it means the boy knew he would be late if he helped, and the consequences of being late, but chose to act anyway.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER29> All China has to do is encourage this and America will self destroy its own software companies . Meanwhile America can do no such thing to China due to their censorship and tight controls.

Lets see what happens.

<comment><USER30> > _Eschew flamebait. Don 't introduce flamewar topics unless you have > something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic > tangents._

[https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html](https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html)

</comment></comment><comment><USER31> _She_ didn't bring him down... _HE_ brought _HIMSELF_ down. Kinda clickbait-y, if you ask me. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯

<comment><USER32> So true. Karma!

</comment></comment><comment><USER33> I think the notion of the article is wrong. She did not bring down Travis. The misogynist culture he helped to create did.

<comment><USER34> Are you kidding me? She took career-risking action to bring a problem to light, and you just want to point to an abstract non-entity as having responsibility for an outcome? Give credit where credit is due FFS, sheesh.

<comment><USER35> > abstract non-entity as having responsibility for an outcome?

The patriarchy is routinely responsible for despicable outcomes.</comment></comment></comment>


Introducing HTTP Tracing - <AUTHOR> https://blog.golang.org/http-tracing <comment><USER2> HTTPStat [https://github.com/davecheney/httpstat](https://github.com/davecheney/httpstat) now uses the HTTP Tracing library to provide some pretty neat graphs, letting you visualise the HTTP Tracing output.

        $ httpstat https://news.ycombinator.com

        HTTP/1.1 200 OK
        Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 05:23:28 GMT
        Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
        Transfer-Encoding: chunked
        Connection: keep-alive
        Vary: Accept-Encoding
        Cache-Control: private
        X-Frame-Options: DENY
        Cache-Control: max-age=0
        Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=31556900; includeSubDomains
        Server: cloudflare-nginx
        CF-RAY: 2ece7111d9ba29c4-MCT

          DNS Lookup   TCP Connection   SSL Handshake   Server Processing   Content Transfer
        [     5ms    |      152ms     |     508ms     |      1285ms       |       226ms      ]
                     |                |               |                   |                  |
            namelookup:5ms            |               |                   |                  |
                                connect:157ms         |                   |                  |
                                            pretransfer:665ms             |                  |
                                                              starttransfer:1950ms           |
                                                                                total:2176ms

<comment><USER3> This looks awesome. Will have to check this out tomorrow.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> I haven't explicitly needed HTTP tracing yet, but am glad to see it's added to the tool set specifically for debugging DNS which can be tough.

On another note, it's pretty f*cking lame that the only discussion in this post is a tangent about error checking and not even remotely related to the content.

<comment><USER5> Is it bad that the first thought that came to mind upon reading the example code on the page is "Wow, this is ugly"?

...And I don't mean the "if err" sprinkling that has a whole subthread, I mean the actual layout of the code. It's not hard to understand just.. ugly. Aesthetically. And it's hard for me to put my finger on why.. maybe it's the symbols everywhere.

I was about ready to make a remark about how I hope that's not idiomatic go code, but no, this is from the official site.

I've never wanted to like a language that makes me not want to like it as much as Go, and that's the god's honest truth.

<comment><USER6> lots of time I see people compromise readability to chase this "beauty" and "elegance". Go makes this practically impossible.

<comment><USER7> Python is pretty readable but it doesn't look like someone smashed the keyboard while holding down the shift key.

<comment><USER6> Python is pretty hit and miss with readability.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER8> Great to see this as part of the core language! Say what you will about Go, the core libs and tools are well designed and really useful.

</comment><comment><USER9> I wonder if this will help any of the opentracing work? Cool to see this added as a first class citizen.

</comment><comment><USER10> This has been one of my favorite new additions to Go 1.7. Incredibly useful for debugging persistent connection pool efficiency.</comment>


Ask HN: How can my startup hire a remote employee in Europe? - <AUTHOR> Working for a startup with about 30 employees in San Francisco and we want to hire someone in Europe to work for our team. The employee would be a remote hire.
* What do we need to know to hire someone who lives in the EU to work remotely for a US company? * What are the laws / tax implications of hiring someone in the EU? * What are the differences between hiring someone in Italy vs Spain vs France, etc.? Are they vast differences between hiring from each EU country or small?
I've tried doing research on how to hire, but all of the search results seem to be based on getting hired as a remote employee... not how to hire a remote employee.
I'm doing research for our Founders and will present the info/data to them. Also, using a throwaway account since the position is not listed publicly yet. Thanks! <comment><USER2> Why not hire them as a contractor?

<comment><AUTHOR> We've thought about that, but I think if they're located in some countries, like France, we might run into strict employment issues since they'd be working for us full-time.

But, let me know if I'm wrong in that assumption.

<comment><USER2> Well, I am an Australian living in Finland, and there's no reason that I can see that I can't work for whomever I wish (ie perform contracting services) so long as I myself am incorporated / employed and pay the relevant taxes etc. For example, in finland (similar to australia) you can work as what in Aus is called a 'sole trader' or in finland something like 'name business', which basically means self employed entrepreneur. I can do work for local clients, international clients, whatever I like, so long as I take care of my/my company's taxes. I don't see why it would be much different in other EU countries. Think about how upwork and elancer etc operate.. those guys can work for whoever they want.

That said, saying 'we want to hire someone in Europe', is ... rather vague, you realize? What do you want them for? Sales, tech? To start a foreign branch? You'll probably have to narrow your purpose down (to get decent advice, or for your own benefit as well?)

Good luck

<comment><USER3> Careful with that advice. I would assume that in general states are checking in closely for potential of misclassification of employees as independent contractors [0]. If you employ a freelancer as a company you actually have it easy: you don't owe the state pension, social tax and potential health insurance payments (these are components here in Germany). If that person happens to work de facto full time for you (can easily be checked via tax audits of annual income) the blame is on you, the company as you effectively employed someone without paying the respective social taxes.

I'm not a tax consultant myself but in case a government audits your company or the freelancer and finds you guilty of this, the money owed is not a small sum I would imagine. It seems the situation in Germany is that your tax and social security scheme is determined by your living residence. So if you work and live in Germany but work for for a US firm remotely you are bound to the German tax code and entitled to social security services as is anyone else in the country. I would be surprised if France or the Nordics would be less restrictive on this. And it makes sense from a legal intuition standpoint.

Best is probably to consult with other startups which employ folks remotely and check in with an expert.

[0]: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misclassification_of_employees...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misclassification_of_employees_as_independent_contractors)

<comment><USER2> Valid point - when I reread the statement as "hire someone full-time", whereas i had defaulted to "hire someone to do some work". "Would be a remote hire" \- should have been the clue :-/

Working "for" the usa company remotely, is I believe, still quite different to "selling services to a foreign us company while self-employed under your own company".

Right now for instance, I have a regular job, plus tominini which allows me to do additional work for whomever I like, with the onus on me to pay taxes / benefits etc.

So yeah, Europe to me seems to take a generally very negative view of the "Uber/food delivery"-style of potentially abusive employee relationships, and you'd have to be careful about that, but I don't think it's an insurmountable hurdle.

I guess narrow down the country and role description and it might get clearer, and contact some other startups like thenaturalist suggests.</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment>


Rebuilding Quantum Theory From Simple Physical Principles - <AUTHOR> https://www.quantamagazine.org/quantum-theory-rebuilt-from-simple-physical-principles-20170830 <comment><USER2> Fyi, the topic was discussed a few months back in [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15163528](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15163528) after the _Quantamagazine_ article was reprinted in _Wired_.

</comment><comment><USER3> > Wins

Neutrinos aren't massless

Confirmed higgs

> Problems

Hierarchy problem

Fine tuning

Why is the cosmological constant so "wrong compared to theory"

No evidence for supersymmetry yet at 10^-17cm via LHC

No evidence for WIMPs

How do we combine QM + GR?

Do black holes destroy information? How to solve the BH firewall problem?

> Speculation

Is there supersymmetry at higher energies than the LHC can probe?

Is spacetime doomed? I.e. is space-time a hologram on the boundary or some other emergent phenomenon

Is there a multiverse?

Is decoherence a solution, or does the wave function "collapse", or simply many-worlds?

Is perturbation theory sensible or is there a deeper more elegant way to calculate scattering?

Is time emergent or fundamental?

</comment><comment><USER4> After familiarizing with QM/SR concepts some years ago, I came to the conclusion that there is nothing more strange and pointless than the world without these two. If max speed was infinite (or finite but non-relative, which is essentially the same) and there was no probabilistic outcomes, then the world would "happen to the end" instantly and/or with analytically predefined series of events. From any initial state. The entire "consequence" concept would fall apart. There is no point for the universe to exist in classical & atomic-ball electron mode.

Idk why both seem so unnatural to so many people who try to get what it means; it feels like it should be obvious instead - it means evolving existence, the only thing you're able to appear in and think about it. Classical uniform fundamental time is much stranger to me than what emerges from what we have now; we simply shifted our focus to "oh" forgetting how much "wtf" was left behind.

I'm not claiming any deep-enough physics or math knowledge (layman actually), consider it a funny philosophical view.

<comment><USER5> > with analytically predefined series of events.

This doesn't make universe less interesting or more predictable. Consider Mandelbrots set, it is fully analytically predefined, but only way to find it's details is to perform the whole calculation.

Similarly the universe can be predefined, but the only way of finding its state after some amount of time can be performing a calculation fully equivalent to letting the universe to live for that time.

<comment><USER4> >amount of time can be performing a calculation fully equivalent to letting the universe to live for that time

This one is very interesting since it brings back the question what time really is. Your point involves "metacircular" observer that can only work/simulate as fast as it can, but the definition of "fast" is external to it. Sure, if we simulate predefined-but-calc-required in _our_ universe, then it will take time. But why should we measure it this way? I mean, does calculation _process_ exist at all without something that requires time for it?

[Or we're really talking about the same fundamental thing that lies behind both our and hypothetically deterministic universe.]

<comment><USER5> Say it is possible to calculate future of a sufficiently complex physical system like a person on a Turing machine by knowing the current state of the system.

Then, according to this idea, the calculation can not be simplified by using some kind of formula that predicts the final state, and one needs to fully compute all the intermediate states, which means your computation is fully equivalent to that person living for the time for which you want to calculate the final state.

So time here is the internal time for the system of your calculation, and not related to the time you take to calculate. This internal time is nothing more than a counter you use, and You can actually stop your calculation, change something in the initial state and calculate again.

I find this fascinating because it kind of explains the universe being predictable, and people having free will: everything is predefined, but only way to know what the choice of complex system will be is letting that system to make the choice!

If the view that consciousness can be explained without requiring quantum physics is correct, then this is true independently of specifics of simulated/real universe, and is just the way information/computation works.

But then maybe Penrose is right, and consciousness can't be calculated on a Turing machine, and we still have lots of interesting science to discover.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> Reading this I see for the first time why the notion that the universe is a simulation isn't so far fetched.

<comment><USER7> I have to disagree and I can not really understand what is so appealing about the simulation idea to many. It is an idea that will lead nowhere because you are unable to distinguish a real universe from a simulated one. In order to do this you would have to know what at least one of those scenarios looks like and then compare the universe you observe to what you know to be true about a real or simulated universe.

It is common to base such thoughts on analogies between our universe and our computers, i.e. our computers have only finite precision while the universe seems continuous, at least to a very good approximation. Therefore if we would detect rounding errors in the universe we would know that the universe is actually a simulation.

But that is at least naive and most likely not true. How would you know that a real universe does not have finite precision? Why would you assume simulation must have finite precision? And you have to answer the same question for any other feature you want to use to make the distinction.

<comment><USER8> Personally I find the peculiar implication of a simple question so appealing. _Will we eventually be able to create simulations that one would be unable to differentiate from reality if that simulation is all they had ever known?_ The answer there is quite self evident, yet it simultaneously somehow implies it is highly likely that we are ourselves within a simulation.

The reason is that we can safely assume that we are within one of _n + 1_ realities. The _n_ simulated realities and the _1_ real reality. Unless you attribute some sort of exceptionalism bordering on creationism to our existence, there's every reason to think that _n_ is going to proportional to the number of advanced civilizations in existence and is presumably going to be very very large. And as you increase _n_ the odds of us actually being in the 'real' reality, which are of course just 1/(n+1), approach 0.

Like you mention it's something that doesn't necessarily go anywhere. Even if you "prove" it after death, that life you'd be experiencing at that point faces the same logical issue - at least unless the argument loses consistency at some point. Something most seem reluctant to admit is that it's also comforting as an atheist. I always expected the infinity of time after my existence to be very much akin to the infinity of time before my existence. That's just disappointing. The seemingly high probability that all is not as it seems is certainly emotionally appealing. But it's certainly not just the emotional appeal driving me there - I could obviously have chosen to invoke Pascal's Wager in the decades of time prior to considering this, but it seemed fake -- this, somehow, does not.

It also answers, or at least compellingly kicks the can, of the question of existence. If I write a program to spit out a random number, I presume that there is no entity that suddenly whisks into existence under the false impression that it is choosing a random number - which it then decides upon, before then being whisked out of existence. So why am _I_ , the 'thing' spectating the outcome of the series of chemical and electrical reactions carried out by this body, here? Descartes would have quite the time if the answer to our little question had been yes during his time. It changes the picture so much more than the dreams that drove his ponderances.

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From a scientific point of view, it's obviously not a great concept as it cannot be falsified. And like you mention, it also cannot really be physically proven without begging the question. On the other hand, it can be treated as a soft science and if a preponderance of evidence does lean towards supporting it then we can at least say, _" Hmm.. well we can't really say anything for certain, but that's certainly interesting."_

<comment><USER9> Could you support the premise you can make an undetectable simulation?

That's a key proposition and you don't support it at all. I find the idea highly questionable.

<comment><USER7> Do you think a NPC in a game could figure out that he is just a character controlled by the game logic? Current games are obviously far away from having conscious NPCs but I neither see any fundamental problem with having NPCs controlled by artificial brains nor any obvious way how such a NPC could figure out that he lives within a game.

Or what if, while you are asleep, someone essentially detaches your brain from your body and uses the signals your brain sends to control a simulation of your body in a virtual environment and feeds back the simulation output into your brain as what you see, hear, feel, and smell? How would you detect that you are no longer really in the real world when you wake up?

<comment><USER9> Yes, lots of ways:

For example, in Minecraft you can build a redstone interferometer to detect things about the computer you're executing on and over time the statistical behavior will detect the physics of the real system.

A character in Minecraft could build a cosmic ray detector, for instance.

So yes, absolutely -- my expectation is that any intelligent structure in a computational "bubble" will be able to detect that it's in a bubble managed by some outside system.

Is your argument entirely from lack of imagination in how it could be done?

<comment><USER7> Is a redstone interferometer an actually thing, a quick search didn't turn anything up? But even if you could detect influences from the outer reality within the game world, how would you decide between them being part of the game mechanics and them being shadows of the outer world given that you have no ground truth knowledge of what the game is supposed to be like?

<comment><USER9> > Is a redstone interferometer an actually thing, a quick search didn't turn > anything up?

I'm probably using slightly different terminology than other people -- I haven't played much in a while.

The basic idea is to use two quasi-connected redstone wires hooked up to a piston -- one providing an update signal but no power and one providing power but no update signal.

The circuit is such that the two wires are actually branches off of a single redstone wire, using only redstone -- so you can detect if the left or right branch off of a redstone line updates first (within a single update cycle) based on if the piston extends: it only extends if the line carrying the update signal is updated after the line carrying the power signal. (If they come in the other order, it stays retracted because it updates before there's power available.)

> how would you decide between them being part of the game mechanics and them > being shadows of the outer world given that you have no ground truth > knowledge of what the game is supposed to be like?

You only have an operational model, just like us -- but it's eventually going to look like an extremely localized computation running their world that occasionally gets bumped by outside sources. That sounds like them discovering that their reality is a subregion hosted in another, richer reality.

The question of "game mechanics" only has meaning to the people outside in their language for discussing their actions -- at the end of the day, there is no "game", there's only what the simulation does as a facet of reality. The people inside will accurately suss out a model that includes a structure that looks like them being run as a simulation.

How they interpret that is likely to be different, but no more or less correct, than how we do.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> Any role for Pilot Wave Theory here?

[https://www.quantamagazine.org/pilot-wave-theory-gains- exper...](https://www.quantamagazine.org/pilot-wave-theory-gains-experimental- support-20160516/)

> An experiment claims to have invalidated a decades-old criticism against > pilot-wave theory, an alternative formulation of quantum mechanics that > avoids the most baffling features of the subatomic universe.</comment>


React SVG Drawing Library - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/kmkzt/react-hooks-svgdrawing <comment><USER2> As someone learning React atm: Why is this developed as a hook, and not as a component?

<comment><USER3> Seems like it does the drawing outside of React.

It takes a ref to a React rendered DOM element and then does its thing.

<comment><USER2> Yes, but you could do that in a component as well?

<comment><USER3> Sure, but I guess it's more flexible that way?

<comment><USER2> Okay, I guess you could attach that functionality to an existing component. It just feels wrong to me, that you would put something that looks like a separate component into a hook to inject into another component. I thought there was some benefit in doing it like this, that I cannot think of...

<comment><USER3> The main goal of React hooks was the shrinking of the component tree. Most people would probably create their own version of an SVG component and then they would have to nest the library component. Now they just have to throw in the hook and be done with it.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER4> This is just a react hook wrapped around two.js

</comment><comment><USER5> What are the benefits of this supposed to be, exactly? Svg elements can be rendered like any other HTML element in react, and manipulated as components and what not. Why would I want to pull in this dependency which seems to consist of 50 lines of code?

What is up with the tendency to think that any semi-neat abstraction you come up with needs to be its own library?

</comment><comment><USER6> Was playing around with 2 in 1 laptops the other day using paint. This feels considerably more snappy on my 4 year old s7 phone which is impressive

</comment><comment><USER7> I like the palette on the demo!

<comment><USER8> They're entirely random colors... [https://github.com/kmkzt/react-hooks- svgdrawing/blob/eea6349...](https://github.com/kmkzt/react-hooks- svgdrawing/blob/eea63497fc14e12e88f144eaf7187e9959e7589d/src/example/index.tsx#L13-L16)</comment></comment>


Hacker Workspaces - <AUTHOR> http://coderwall.com/p/gxjpna <comment><USER3> A lot of those workspaces consist of a laptop (often 13inch macbook) on a desk.

Laptop screens, on desks, are at the wrong height for ergonomics - <USER2> shouldnt have to look down at the screen all day.

People should be using large dedicated monitors, which are at the right height, and dedicated input peripherals (e.g. keyboard+mouse). Ergonomic, and efficient.

A nice 27inch IPS display is now very cheap; I do not understand professional hackers working just off a laptop.

<comment><USER4> Do you have a recommendation for a nice cheap IPS? I'm in the market for a monitor, I'd be interested to see what other developers recommend.

<comment><USER5> Dell U2711 is quite nice, good IPS and anti-glare, but it's not cheap (800-1000 USD). But in my case I consider that money well spent.

At a recent Slashdot discussion a lot of people mentioned Yamasaki Catleap, it could be shipped from Korea where it's supposedly produced from 27'' panels rejected by Apple, but still usable. And it costs 340-400 USD with shipping.

As for the topic, it's really puzzling how people can use just laptops as their main work machines for code development. Right now I have about 6Mpixels at 100dpi of screen estate and I guess I could make use of another 4Mpixels. Good keyboard is also a must.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> As a programmer that suffers from RSI-related wrist issues at only 26, all I can think of when I see all of these workspaces is "how on earth are all of these people still able to move their hands?" Most, if not all of them look like they're _trying_ to stick it to ergonomics.

I'm secretly just jealous, of course.

<comment><USER7> 26 y/o here with RSI-related issues as well. I constantly wonder how my +30 y/o co-workers with less ergonomically set-up workstations than I have are able to survive.

I am also jealous! :(

<comment><USER8> I approach all computer usage as if it's inherently harmful to my body, and I must minimize that harm if I expect to work with them the rest of my life. I have had excellent results avoiding repetitive strain from the following two products:

3M Ergo Mouse: [http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/ergonomics/home/...](http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/ergonomics/home/products/ergonomicmouse/)

Kinesis Keyboard: <http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/>

I have no relationship, commercial or otherwise, with either vendor. Just worked well for me, as a professional software engineer. I highly recommend them. Both are designed to shift common movements away from smaller muscles toward larger muscles. Where a regular mouse relies on the small muscles of your wrist, the 3M mouse shifts that movement to the larger muscles of your arm. Kinesis moves the most common keys (space, enter, delete, modifiers) to one's (stronger) thumbs, and places keys to avoid the "stretch" of one's hand common with key combinations like ctrl+shift+T.

I should also mention that I use a standing desk. I think that's an important benefit to non-harmful mouse & keyboard posture. My experience from working while sitting in chairs is that your body tends to lean from side to side, extend one's arms to a degree that will cause repetitive strain, or put weight on the wrong places (like armrests). I have had an easier time adopting correct (least harmful, according to modern ergonomics research) posture while standing.

That posture is: let your arms fall limp to your sides. Now, bending at the elbow (and without moving your elbow), raise your arms in front of you to be parallel with the ground. That's where your keyboard should be. Your mouse should be in reach by rotating your arm, again without moving the elbow. This is the best posture for both chairs and standing (according to the ergonomics expert paid by my company to examine my working space -- I find this to be true in practice). As you can see, it is difficult to achieve this posture in a chair. The height of your desk is probably wrong, and you probably need a keyboard tray. It's more easily achieved with a standing setup.

I have had virtually no RSI issues since switching to these two products and a standing desk about 1.5 years ago. Both devices are fairly different from a normal input, and took a long time to learn to use effectively. The 3M mouse trades away accuracy, but with experience you can get almost as good as a normal mouse for regular desktop applications. I still use a regular mouse and keyboard for PC gaming, however.

Hope this is helpful to other intensive computer-users out there! Give standing a try -- your health will probably benefit.

<comment><USER9> It's anecdotal, and maybe it's just me, but I've been a computer junkie, at work and at home for a good 20 years, i touch-type, somewhere in the top 5%, my posture sucks (other than where my hands sit relative to the keyboard) and I've had no RSI related issues that I can recall, ever. That's a mix of apple keyboards, buckling spring keyboards, and barely tolerable dell keyboards. (There's a few along the way I threw out because they were too mushy... but other than that)

Perhaps it's something I do without intention - small breaks due to short attention span or somthing...... but not everyone gets injuries.

That said - your advice is all perfectly sound.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> After my initial switch from a single to dual monitors, I couldn't imagine ever going back to just one. Let alone a tiny laptop display. Shocked at how many single-laptop-and-not-much-else setups I saw in the examples given.

<comment><USER11> I tried to make the switch from dual to single monitors earlier this year. It's really nice to only need a laptop (or one monitor + kb/mouse) on your desk. I also find the border between the two monitors _really_ interferes with my ability to use the space, somehow. During the experiment, the only time I ever found myself wanting a second monitor was when I was testing in the browser, and needed to view a whole web page, plus an inspector. Since I have periods where I do that a lot, I now have a second monitor hooked up to my laptop. The second monitor goes unused abou 90% of the time.

I think my ideal setup would be to have a very high-resolution display like an Apple Cinema display.

<comment><USER12> You're right - I just switched to a 2560w 27" (from 1920w 24") and can now fit a browser at 1280px on the left side of the screen, and Sublime Text at 1280px on the right. The display, ST with the SFTP plugin and LiveReload have made much more of a difference than I imagined.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER13> Slavoj Zizek Says Your Office Ping-Pong Table Is Oppressing You! [http://www.businessinsider.com/slavoj-zizek-says-your- office...](http://www.businessinsider.com/slavoj-zizek-says-your-office-ping- pong-table-is-oppressing-you-2012-5)

<comment><USER14> Employers disarm their employees right to complain by providing them services for free? What an awful situation.

<comment><USER15> It could be an awful situation.

But, from my experience, mostly it isn't.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER16> Shameless plug for my new Mac App:

EdgeCase: <http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/edgecase/id513826860?mt=12>

The app inserts cursor-bounding hard edges between your shared screen edges. Cross only when you want to via several shortcuts.

I made it because multiple monitors make OS X hotcorners impossible for me to hit. (Fitts' Law, infinite width, etc.)

Workspace / multiple-monitor junkies in this topic: sound useful? Have any other multiple-monitor nits I could fix?

<comment><USER17> Great name. :)

</comment></comment><comment><USER18> I've been curating a collection of hacker workspaces on and off for a year now in a Gimme Bar collection: <http://gim.ie/ccN> . These aren't generally workstations of "famous" hackers, but rather just people that would send me pictures of their setup when I asked nicely.

Edit: Ah yes, there are a few in there that I pulled from a .net Magazine article.

</comment><comment><USER19> Everybody is doing all their work on 11" MacBook Air these days. I feel like people just wanna look cool.

Why? Is it the weight? Do you find Pro too heavy to carry around? Have you tried a backpack?

<comment><USER20> I have a 13" MBA, and the reason I chose it over the pro is that it has an SSD. I've killed hard drives before thanks to them not sleeping when I shut my lid. But I can't do real work on it for long periods of time, I need my dual monitors.

<comment><USER21> You can get an MBP with an SSD. I have a 13" MBP with a 128 GB SSD.

<comment><USER19> I have MBP with SSD _and_ HDD. :)

<comment><USER22> As do I, but it's really really heavy! It's almost consistent weight training carrying the thing around.

<comment><USER19> Yeah I solved that issue by doing real weight training, then it doesn't feel so heavy!

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER23> Can you call this guys "Hackers" ? Come on, Macbooks, Ikea tables, and the most weird... cleanliness.

Where are the cups of coffee ? Where are all the cables ? The Model M keyboard ? I can't see any Donald Knuth books there. Not to mention no one is using Linux there.

I'm not "ragehating" because of Macs or so, I'm just saying that it's weird to see a Hacker with a workspace like that :P

<comment><USER24> I don't mean to be that guy but this kind of comments are getting on my nerves lately. If you don't have something to contribute just _don't_ write an comment. I mean think about your comment and ask yourself if it helped someone. I would be surprised if you think yes.

A hacker is not a hacker because of the hardware he/she uses. It's not the books he/she reads. It's about being unconventional, using things you are productive with, finding out what would make things better and you name it. It's not about being not clean and reading Donald Knuth's books.

Please either stop writing such things or simply go away.

</comment></comment><comment><USER25> Nice idea, but too much clicking involved.

It should really be a name, a photo, a name of most notable/public piece of work and a link to a personal site/about page.

</comment><comment><USER26> Interesting how every single one of those people uses a Mac, even the guy who works at Microsoft and another who worked on ASP.NET.

<comment><USER27> Bleh, I use a mac because I have to for iOS dev. But it kind of sucks for desktops. You can choose between an under-powered mini, the far-overpriced pro, or the ugly single monitor iMac(I like my apple branding where I don't have to look at it, thank you).

<comment><USER28> For what it's worth, the iMac has been able to power a secondary screen for quite some time. Not that's it's a great alternative - Apple has always had a lackluster desktop line the first iMacs took off.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER29> I'm usually not among the grammar police, but leading right off the bat with "Us developers" instead of "We developers" stuck out quite a bit. Also, the fuzzy timestamp has a duplicated "about".

Nothing against the actual content of the page, though. Nice to see both minimalist and elaborate styles represented.

</comment><comment><USER30> I have a standing desk cobbled together from non-office supplies. My "lectern" is a Manhasset music stand (<http://www.manhasset- specialty.com/index.cfm?pageID=3>) adjusted to the perfect height and pitch for my wrists while typing. The wireless mouse used to slip off until I pulled a cotton pillowcase over the black metal, now it grips and is very comfortable.

My monitor is just a 37" 1080p LCD stacked on a table and empty crates to reach head height. I've got an ottoman to sit or lean on when I need a break from standing, and the music stand desk makes it really easy to quickly and firmly adjust the perfect typing attitude.

</comment><comment><USER31> I use my MBP in clamshell mode: <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3131>

With a Macessity LapTuk stand: [http://www.amazon.com/Macessity-LAPTUKPRO- LapTuk-with-USB2-0...](http://www.amazon.com/Macessity-LAPTUKPRO-LapTuk-with- USB2-0/dp/B0047MFXL8/)

And 3 external monitors usings two Kensington's USB to VGA adaptors: [http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Universal-Multi-Display- Ada...](http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Universal-Multi-Display-Adapter- Black/dp/B002F9NSMQ)

I can do a coderwall profile with photos if there is interest.

</comment><comment><USER32> Theory of relativity hacker workspace: [http://tobifairley.com/blog/wp- content/uploads/2009/05/alber...](http://tobifairley.com/blog/wp- content/uploads/2009/05/albert-einstein-desk-web.jpg)

</comment><comment><USER33> Very nice site. I'm always intrigued by other people's setup, but I need a desk and proper heigh adjustments. My wrists would die if I worked on a bed or in a coffee shop!

If people are also interested at more in depth setups of people from various fields, this site <http://usesthis.com> (which has been linked to from Hacker News I'm sure) is along the same lines, minus the photo of their actual setup. It's more descriptive.

</comment><comment><USER34> I love the way you can drag and drop an image into a protip. Its a really nice user experience and also something I didn't know you could do technically.

<comment><USER35> Couldn't agree more. Great user experience.

</comment></comment><comment><USER36> I see some people use the MBA with a 27" thunderbolt display that are still using the MBA as a secondary display and I'm wondering what you find this useful for. I would think having the 2560*1440 would be more than enough and not having to turn your head would be great. Especially since full screen isn't supported in multimonitor mode in Lion (yet, i hope).

<comment><USER37> Ohmygod, this is so frustrating. I hate to work like this - I feel like the extra monitor actually distracts me more than it frees me from a lack of space. I've still worked like this because:

\- A magic trackpad is expensive. And when you have it, it's kind of awkward to place it. And then you have to deal with occasional Bluetooth hiccups and batteries and all that crap, when you basically _have_ that same thing build into your laptop.

\- Same for the keyboard, but cheaper.

\- In 10.6, you could just close the laptop, wait for the screen to appear, and open it again. You would be able to use keyboard and trackpad but the screen would stay dark. Not so anymore.

\- If you close the laptop because you have a mouse and keyboard, it will run insanely hot. I know it's officially supported, but I plan to use my laptop more than the "supported" three years. If you open it just a little, the screen turns back on in Lion, see previous item.

And if the screen is already there, then why not use it? It seems like the rational thing to do.

</comment></comment><comment><USER38> My Workspace: <http://coderwall.com/p/ggrp8w>

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> It might not be initially obvious that these are just some featured desks as part of our launch. Coderwall members have been adding their desks here => <http://coderwall.com/p/t/hackerdesk>

</comment><comment><USER39> How I hack: <http://i.imgur.com/uh7PV.jpg>

</comment><comment><USER40> I liked Ilya's and Rachel's workspaces the best.

</comment><comment><USER41> I can't believe every single one of these people is using a Mac...

</comment><comment><USER42> Beautiful site!!

</comment><comment><USER14> Nice advert for Apple computers.</comment>


Ajenti – Web admin panel - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/Eugeny/ajenti/

<comment><USER2> Nice to see an admin panel that doesn't require PHP or Apache/Nginx installed. I'll take this for a spin. Requirements: [https://github.com/Eugeny/ajenti/blob/master/requirements.tx...](https://github.com/Eugeny/ajenti/blob/master/requirements.txt)

I seems to be licensed under the AGPLv3 (desc here: [https://tldrlegal.com/license/gnu-affero-general-public- lice...](https://tldrlegal.com/license/gnu-affero-general-public- license-v3-\(agpl-3.0\)) )

<comment><USER3> Check out Webmin, no PHP/Apache required and it's super powerful, though its look smells a bit of the 90s. :)

<comment><USER4> I agree webmin is fantastic and the UI it actually not that bad with a theme.

<comment><USER5> Just wondering what theme you use? I have been using this [https://github.com/metal696heart/Webmin-Theme- Metal](https://github.com/metal696heart/Webmin-Theme-Metal)

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> Looks neat!

Looking at examples like [http://support.ajenti.org/topic/403351-setting-up-a- python-w...](http://support.ajenti.org/topic/403351-setting-up-a-python- website-with-ajenti-v-django-example/) it seems that the panel is very opinionated on how to set up things. There are myriad of ways of setting up Django website, so I guess, it would be a significantly improvement if docs would explain what exactly goes on behind the scenes when the configuration is applied. Or maybe I just looked at the wrong place and missed those details.

And certainly needs proper licensing terms explained. "License not required" is very bad phrasing for everyone conscious about the matter - when taken literally it reads as "the software can't be (legally) used" in many jurisdictions. If I got it right, Ajenti seems¹ to be available under AGPLv3, so that's what the site should proudly tell.

___

¹) [https://github.com/Eugeny/ajenti/blob/master/docs/LICENSE](https://github.com/Eugeny/ajenti/blob/master/docs/LICENSE)

<comment><USER7> Interesting, I didn't realize that Ajenti charges for commercial licensing of their web hosting addon.

[http://ajenti.org/licensing](http://ajenti.org/licensing)

It's on github separately but without a license: [https://github.com/Eugeny/ajenti-v](https://github.com/Eugeny/ajenti-v)

<comment><USER6> Can't be sure this could be treated as an official statement, but [https://github.com/Eugeny/ajenti-v/blob/efcee75286418fbbd25e...](https://github.com/Eugeny/ajenti-v/blob/efcee75286418fbbd25e407fbe512d18464ed237/rpm.sh#L29) has a mention of LGPLv3.

If that's real terms the software's distributed under and not some mistake, then it's a proper Free Software project and I don't see any reason why one can't or won't use AGPL/LGPL software commercially. Adding any "secret sauce" seems nearly pointless for web hosting solutions, and even if that's truly necessary it probably could be easily hidden beneath "xGPL software merely writes a config file, and doesn't link with the proprietary bits" waiver.

<comment><USER8> We've recently undergone transition from an invalid combination of LGPL + custom clauses to dual-licensing under AGPL and proprietary. I actually forgot to replace the license mention in this buildscript, thank you!

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> This looks great, I wonder how this will compare to Redhat's cockpit project they are pushing quite heavily. Obviously both are new and still massive works in progress.

[http://cockpit-project.org/](http://cockpit-project.org/)

[http://www.projectatomic.io/docs/cockpit/](http://www.projectatomic.io/docs/cockpit/)

</comment><comment><USER10> Looks great. Minor point, can you guys turn your screen shot lightbox into gallery mode so users can navigate through all of them at once?

</comment><comment><USER11> > Does not overwrite your config files, options and comments. All changes are > non-destructive.

I'm wondering how this works exactly. Does it mean it comments out changes it makes? Or keeps a backup somewhere?

<comment><USER12> It probably keeps them in its own directory and tells the program to look in said directory.

<comment><USER6> Then it has to supply its own init scripts (or units or whatever) to run separate daemons. Or take part of init's job and run and supervise everything by itself, which isn't a really good idea.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER13> I'm way to paranoid to install things like this on production servers.

<comment><USER14> Firewall it to localhost and access it over an SSH tunnel.

<comment><USER15> The author of this project should have a little section on how to do this. I'm sure lots of people would love the convenience but worry about security.

<comment><USER16> There's already documentation for how to do that in a zillion other places though, I don't think every project needs to regurgitate those instructions.

<comment><USER17> They can mention that it's possible and link to resources explaining how to do it. That way, people that didn't know it's a possibility can learn and apply it.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER18> This looks great.

Me and a partner recently launched a dead-simple SaaS tool to monitor cron jobs and other scheduled tasks ([http://cronitor.io](http://cronitor.io)). Using it really is as simple as adding an "&& curl {your URL code here}" but we've already heard from somebody who relied on cPanel and wasn't sure how he could add our monitoring code.

I see your comment here about a plugin architecture. Are you planning on keeping a directory of plugins? Do you think a plugin to integrate with Cronitor is possible given your current plugin APIs? I'd love to hear your thoughts, here or at email@example.com

</comment><comment><USER19> I had written a comparison between server management systems including Ajenti: [http://yusufarslan.net/choosing-control-panel-server- managem...](http://yusufarslan.net/choosing-control-panel-server-management)

</comment><comment><USER20> I just installed apache on all my servers just to run [http://www.linuxdash.com](http://www.linuxdash.com) but I would add this along side it instantly! linxdash would give me my read-only password protected status that I can view from any browser, and Ajenti would give me my ssh / local interface for really managing things!

</comment><comment><USER21> Looks/ed pretty cool. Took it for a spin. Setup is, indeed, pretty simple. Only problem I ran into is that Ajenti runs on port 8000; same as my node server. Easy enough fix.

First impressions: Its quick, responsive, and has a nice interface. Have to see how it integrates its firewall with UFW.

</comment><comment><USER22> I'm already using it on a VPS running Nginx. Features are essential but fulfill my needs. It is also very lightweight and well designed.

</comment><comment><USER23> Looks like the project has improved immensely since I checked this out last year. Love the new look! I'll be reinstalling.

</comment><comment><USER24> Yay no need to configure it with a webserver

</comment><comment><USER25> How is this better than, say, Virtualmin?

</comment><comment><USER26> If this was a Rails engine whose views and CSS I could adapt to my own I'd be sold!

<comment><USER25> In which way does python hinder you in editing the CSS? How about making your own or learning python?

<comment><USER26> Now you're just putting words in my mouth. I said something like this was available for Rails as well that would be awesome.</comment></comment></comment>


Ask HN: How to Deal with a Conservative Family? - <AUTHOR> I'm an undergrad and my family is very conservative. For instance, my aunt who works at IBM thinks 'programmer' is the software equivalent of a construction worker. My grandfather tells me not to write open source software because I don't get paid for it and so on. Any attempt at explaining why my GPA is getting lower and lower as I focus on projects outside of class is futile: they see me doing something weird, going down a path so foreign and assume I must be wasting time or doing something wrong. I imagine many of you are going or have been through the same situation; what should I do? <comment><USER3> You seem like you have it all figured out - that you know "things" that your family doesn't, or that you think that your family's life experiences are old and stale and not relevant in today's modern world. It's funny to see this for me, as a 42yo man. I was that way too when I was 14-24. I'm not being critical of you - it's more a 42yo man bemusing how funny life is.

I read something yesterday that resonates here - it was a something like "Remember all those kids in school who always asked the teacher, 'Will this be on the test?' They were on to something. It's your job to know what the important metrics that you will be judged by, and it's your job to make sure those metrics are where they should be." Well, you know the metric - GPA - <USER2> you are letting it slide because you are doing side projects. Let's swap this out with music and see it from a different perspective: "Any attempt at explaining why my GPA is getting lower and lower as I focus on my music outside of class is futile."

The key point I'm trying to make is that you are _distracted_. You can say, "Yes, but I'm doing side projects that help me become a better programmer." Fine - that does make it better. But when your future prospective employer looks at your resume and compares it to 3-5 other candidates, will they cut you the same slack you are giving yourself?

<comment><USER4> "You seem like you have it all figured out - that you know "things" that your family doesn't, or that you think that your family's life experiences are old and stale and not relevant in today's modern world. It's funny to see this for me, as a 42yo man. I was that way too when I was 14-24. I'm not being critical of you"

Compare this to a quote of Socrates from thousands of years ago :)

"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words... They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers."

It's always been like that and it's the only way our world keeps functioning, questioning current mindsets and disrupting existing boundaries.

</comment></comment><comment><USER5> Why do you grades necessarily get lower due to your side projects? Is it not possible to keep both up?

This is a good exercise in learning to communicate and to manage your image. Present things in way they can relate. For example, you can present open- source like getting involved in your local community or a local business organization. You do things for free (in real world organizations you have member events, volunteering, etc) and you gain valuable business connections and expertise.

The 'construction worker' analogy can be put aside if you can present them a career plan. Research the jobs you want to get, get information on salary and benefits, and explain to your family that this holds a good future for you.

<comment><AUTHOR> I guess they don't, a more disciplined way of doing things could solve the problem. I see, thanks for the tip!

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> Your problem is not that your family is conservative. I don't know how "bad" your GPA is, but if it's trending downward, the problem is not your aunt/grandfather's views on the world, however outdated they may be. You don't necessarily need to change their view on programming / open source, but you should appreciate they are concerned for you, possibly for good reason.

pg has a PhD in computer science from Harvard. Do you think his undergrad GPA was low?

You have four years to get a decent GPA, you have your entire life to contribute to open source. You can possibly do both while in college, but the former might be more important.

<comment><USER7> Once you graduate, noone cares about your GPA

<comment><USER8> Once you get past the point that people care about your GPA, no one cares about your GPA.

You might need that GPA to get into a competitive academic program, to secure a research grant, to add another string to your bow when you try to convince an accelerator that you have the smarts to back up your charm and creativity, or simply to get a job at a competitive company.

No one cares about your GPA once you get past that point. That point is not necessarily graduation.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> My family isn't quite to that level but no one really understands what I do or where I want to go. I feel like this goes for a lot of startup people. Most people don't see what we see or understand the opportunity.

One thing that I've decided is to stop worrying about what they think. Ya they are your family but don't let them dictate your life or dissuade from what you want to do. I live in Missouri, and plan on moving to SF when I graduate. No one in my family is happy about that, but it isn't going to change anything. You still love them, they still love you. They obviously are concerned about your future. That's excellent because the startup path is not an easy one and encouragement is welcome.

As far as grades go, they aren't the most important thing, but don't let them tank. Keep them manageable. They have taken a lower priority for me but I am still able to keep them to about half A's, half B's. That's fairly sufficient for anyone as long as you have a lot of side work so show for the rest of your knowledge. I can tell you I've learned more on my own than I have in any of my classes.

Overall, don't worry about your family's perception of you because it will improve and they will eventually see where this path leads. People see startups as a big failure, but simply put you fail to succeed. Just keep pursuing your passion.

</comment><comment><USER10> My family are not particularly conservative, but they would still be concerned about a falling GPA.

Perhaps you are misdiagnosing the problem?

<comment><AUTHOR> Maybe too. But I guess I didn't explain it well enough for the sake of brevity. What I mean is, when you do the startup thing, you may end up neglecting certain things, in my case collge. How do you let them know that you're not wasting time when in fact you're investing in a path they do not understand?

<comment><USER11> How do you know you're not wasting time? How did you convince yourself? once you have laid out the arguments you use on yourself - can you figure out why they don't work on your parents? For instance - are you assuming a higher likelihood of success for your startup than they are? Or an easier route back in to college if you get kicked out for failing? Do you know something they don't (or perhaps vice versa)? Do they think college is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and startup ideas will always be there, but you think the opposite? Or is it perhaps a conflict of principles, like you don't care if you do end up working in fast food so long as you gave the startup your best effort, and they think this would be a terrible failure of everything they ever wanted for you?

<comment><AUTHOR> I got my current mindset after reading many books, articles, pg essays, talking to people and so on. When you become obsessed with something you suck in all the information about the subject out there. I wish I could just show them a 'memory dump' of my brain.

<comment><USER12> In other words: brainwashing.

That's what happened when you read similar books, followed like-minded people (and have an unhealthy obsession), do discussion with like-minded people or even steer the topic toward your own pont of view.

Be careful. You are living on your own bubble.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> Your family is right: 'programmer' is the software equivalent of a construction worker, and you almost certainly do not get paid for writing open source software.

Whether these truths are bad things is another matter though. Where would the world be without construction workers? Can you imagine what a building would cost if the architects also had to do the actual construction? And would it be a better building for it? And who would have heard of Linus Torvalds if he hadn't written some open source software? Your name on a popular project is a great advertisement for yourself. It gives you a broader choice of employers and it helps your salary negotiation.

</comment><comment><USER13> > My grandfather tells me not to write open source software because I don't > get paid for it and so on.

Many employers give more weight on open source work than on GPA. I guess you could try to explain him that (you could use architects as an analogy: would he hire an architect with a great GPA but no portfolio or an architect with a great portfolio but a bad GPA?).

</comment><comment><USER14> Show them they're wrong by being successful at what you do.

Of course that's going to take a while, and it could get really annoying if they keep nagging all that time. It would help a lot if you could get the idea across that real skill trumps GPA. Find some examples of highly successful programmers that didn't graduate.

<comment><AUTHOR> It does take time! I can try that too, though I'm afraid they'll say they got lucky or something

<comment><USER15> A lot of the best known success cases did get lucky. For example, Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard, but Microsoft was a tiny, obscure company (they wrote BASIC compilers and such) until they got the contract to supply the operating system for IBM's PC. This happened, in part, due to the missteps of their competitors (like Digital Research). IBM's ineptitude also helped make Microsoft successful: IBM let Microsoft keep the rights to the software because they couldn't imagine how valuable it could be; they were still in the mainframe mindset where the software was ancillary to the huge, expensive hardware. Also, Microsoft didn't write MSDOS themselves; they bought an OS called QDOS from some other company for $50K (who also didn't know what it was really worth). So, yes, Gates got very, very lucky.

The vast majority of new businesses fail, even the ones that get VC funding (VCs have about a 10% success rate; a handful of big successes pay for all the failures). So your most probable startup outcome is failure, in which case you'll need to make a living by working for somebody else. A lack of a college degree or a poor GPA would make that path much harder.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER16> Presumably if you're an undergrad you're an adult? Part of growing up is learning to make your own way. You family were the people giving you direction as you were growing up and now you're on your own - you decide what's good for you and take the responsibility to explain your decisions. It's great if you can still get advice from your family, but if you don't think it's good advice that's fine. Everyone goes through this phase. It's particularly hard in the beginning, when you're just starting to make your way in the world, but it gets better with time. Listen to your family, make an effort to explain yourself and also be very clear with yourself and with them about where the line between their giving advice and your deciding for yourself passes.

</comment><comment><USER17> I think your relatives may be right, assuming you are only "contributing" to open source, rather than leading a substantial project, or wrapped up in potentially important research/innovation.

It's just a hobby, especially if you are neglecting your "day job", that is, your grades.

Painful though this may sound to the HN community, it has always been the case that people who command or deal with "things" are considered lower class than people who command or deal with other people, and I believe this is still the case, even in tech circles. For example, I don't believe any of the current wave of "tech stars" have achieved what they have through technical skill alone. It's mostly been about business acumen, marketing, timing, assembling a good team, and so on.

The "redeeming feature" with software is that programming is actually quite a complex skill, still open to innovation, and the demand for it is apparently currently higher than the supply. However I believe Obama, and other figures in powerful positions, are attempting to rectify that situation with their "everyone must learn to code" initiatives, and combined with potential innovation in automation and so on, the ground could quite easily shift.

So while your open-source contributions may also be contributing to your resume, you have to consider the bigger picture of economics, and human nature, and decide if your current hobby is really viable as a lifetime career, and whether it can trump the "official" route to success or not.

What to do? Charge for your time. If you're any good, someone will pay. You will learn what programming, in the real world, is all about, and your relatives will see someone practicing "grown up" skills rather than merely indulging a hobby.

And finally ... "When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty- one, I was astonished at how much he had learned in seven years." Mark Twain. perhaps shift the quote by a few years.

</comment><comment><USER18> I'm not sure why you feel your family is conservative. Remember: these political terms have very fluid definitions. If you stuck a gun to my head, I might define "conservative" as "folks who don't want to change anything because it works good enough already" while liberal would be "folks who want to change things that aren't broken" That's just a SWAG, though. I'm sure all my conservative and liberal friends would disagree!

So I know a lot of conservatives who do open source, who do all sorts of new things -- after they've been around for a few years. I guess die-hard conservatives might wait 50 years or so before trying new stuff? Usually these guys aren't in IT, though. You have to remember that in IT something like 80% of what we use refreshes every couple of years.

I had a very similar problem with my parents who were very liberal! To them there were established ways of trying new things. It wasn't an issue of trying new stuff. It was that they had a different mental model of reality than what I was experiencing. It took a long time before they finally figured out what I was telling them.

There are a lot of conservative people who teach interpretive dance, improvisational acting, or creative writing. Likewise, there are a lot of liberal people who are lifers at various BigCorps, are lawyers for the man, and so on. Don't confuse the comic book definition of things with how things actually work.

So the problem here is, at least from your brief description, is not that your family doesn't want you doing new-fangled stuff. It might be that they don't understand how the technology field works. It also might be that somebody is paying for college and you're spending your time chasing stuff that doesn't look like college to them. Could be a lot of things, actually. I think more information is needed.

It's one thing to want to freeform chase your dreams. It's another thing to commit to a structured regimen of training. Sounds like your family is expecting one thing from you and you want to do another. As long as they aren't writing the checks and you're not making a mistake by going in debt for something you're not using, sounds to me like you get to decide. Time for an honest talk.

Also, and this is tricky for tech folks, you just may never be able to convey what the tech world looks like to them. IBM lifers have a much different view of tech than SV types. (Each tends to disdain the other, but that's a story for another day)

Buck up, kid! If you want to spend your evenings building free software to change the world, go for it. But that means you have a communication job ahead with the family -- one that might take many years to accomplish.

</comment><comment><USER19> This is just a hunch, but I don't think your family would be too worried about these things if you kept your GPA up. They are trying to find the reason for the falling GPA, and blaming what they can find.

</comment><comment><USER20> What does "conservative" have to do with your question?

</comment><comment><USER21> > My grandfather tells me not to write open source software because I don't > get paid for it

Yeah, these are the values of the rat race culture we've been nurturing so far. And look where that has taken us. Sanity?

</comment><comment><USER22> \- Just keep your head up and continue to follow your heart.

</comment><comment><USER4> It's always like that and it would be weird if it weren't. You're 100% going in the right direction. If you want to be an entrepreneur and change the world, you will receive a lot of adversity, also for no apparent reason.

But if you do, you know you're on the right path, so go out there and kick ass! :)

<comment><USER23> I appreciate the positivity of your message, but I would be more cautious in giving advice to strangers on forums.

How can one know that the poster is going 100% in the right direction without knowing more specifics than what is written in a 3 line post?

"If you receive adversity, it means you are on the right path" can also be dangerous advice without more information.

<comment><USER3> No kidding. We don't know OP at all so for anyone to say OP is "100% going in the right direction" is just not an informed statement.</comment></comment></comment>


The Power of Language Degeneration - <AUTHOR> https://kirstenhacker.wordpress.com/2019/07/08/language-degeneracy-2/ <comment><USER2> I don't see how is it degeneration. It's just a different encoding format...

Towards the end it looked very much like how you would transcribe English speech as Hungarian. I could read it fluently around maybe 50-70% speed.

Japanese does the same (for words they borrowed from English), so I could actually understand lots of things in Japan which were written using katakana, just after a month, without actively learning it. I might have spent 2 hours in total memorizing the katakana and hiragana symbols.

Dutch also became substantially decodable for me just after a day or two and after learning a few trivial transformation rules between spelling and speech.

</comment><comment><USER2> The writing has also reminded me the [https://dotsies.org/](https://dotsies.org/) font. Change being presented gradually is actually a lot easier to adapt to.</comment>


Ask HN: Has the karma downvote threshold changed? - <AUTHOR>

My ability to downvote seemed to kick in at about 200 karma points. Now that I'm at 467 I seem to have lost the ability. <comment><USER2> It was raised to 500, I'm not sure exactly when, but recently.

Added: Here it is <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1853529>

</comment><comment><USER3> Certainly some time ago it was also based on your average, not just the absolute value. Perhaps that's related to the UI change of putting your average in the top bar.

</comment><comment><USER4> and minor ui change today? <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1853932></comment>


Social Skydiving Day 50: Checking In - <AUTHOR> http://socialskydivingwithjustin.posterous.com/social-skydiving-day-50-checking-in

<comment><USER2> Im in the middle of readin "How to Talk To Anyone" by Liel Lowndes. I think it might be the solution to your "obnoxious" problem.

It puts together 92 tips for improving your body language and the impression you make on people. I've found it useful.</comment>


Housing transactions geolocalised with price and features in open data (France) - <AUTHOR> https://app.dvf.etalab.gouv.fr/ <comment><AUTHOR> Announce in french: [https://www.service- public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A13386](https://www.service- public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A13386)

google translate : [https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u...](https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.service- public.fr%2Fparticuliers%2Factualites%2FA13386)

I'm curious to know what other countries publish similar data?</comment>


Tinker with a Neural Network (2016) - <AUTHOR> http://playground.tensorflow.org/ <comment><USER2> Fwiw, this dates from 2016. Maybe put (2016) in the title?

[https://cloud.google.com/blog/big- data/2016/07/understanding...](https://cloud.google.com/blog/big- data/2016/07/understanding-neural-networks-with-tensorflow-playground)

Tensorfire is much cooler:

[https://tenso.rs/demos/fast-neural-style/](https://tenso.rs/demos/fast- neural-style/)

I wonder when most NN users will get past tinkering.

<comment><USER3> Tensorfire is "cooler" in its capabilities, sure, but this Tensorflow playground was Assignment #1 in my 'Intro to Deep Learning' class. With just a little tutelage, this page can be a great intuitive explainer for how NNs work.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> repost</comment>


Syntactic Line Compression in Visual Studio - <AUTHOR> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2014/05/23/announcing-update-to-productivity-power-tools-2013.aspx

<comment><AUTHOR> It could just as easily be said that half the problem is the unfortunate choice of brace style (the other half of the problem might be not using a whitespace-significant language in the first place :P ), but where you are constrained by an existing style guide this could be a winning feature.

</comment><comment><USER2> This seems like a simple solution to problem I don't know I have.

I wonder how easy/difficult it would be to implement this in other editors..

<comment><USER3> This popped up for emacs: [https://gist.github.com/robtillotson/5d162f9674ad9c207d44](https://gist.github.com/robtillotson/5d162f9674ad9c207d44)</comment></comment>


The death and life of the great British pub - <AUTHOR> http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/oct/13/the-death-and-life-of-a-great-british-pub <comment><USER2> That was a nice long read article. I particularly liked the curt-ish, even terse writing style, a kind of an eulogy (if not for the bar in question.) Thanks.

I currently reside in Scotland and wonder what's the real estate market with regards to pubs and pubcos here. Pubbing seems like an integral part of culture here, too.</comment>


100,000 - <AUTHOR> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoyCRlqiHHg

<comment><USER2> Hungarian - loosely transalted:

        Over 100 thousand people go over the
        Elizabeth Bridge in protest against
        the internet tax.</comment>


Craig Wright to Judge: "bonded courier" gave me keys to Satoshi's 1M+ bitcoins - <AUTHOR> https://modernconsensus.com/cryptocurrencies/bitcoin/craig-wright-to-judge-bonded-courier-gave-me-keys-to-satoshi-nakamotos-1100111-bitcoins/ <comment><USER2> You need to be very very careful, when parsing things that Craig says.

His statement is implying that he is getting access to the "private keys" which would allow him to actually have control over the 1M fortunate.

But, if you look at what he is actually saying, he is actually only claiming that he is getting access to the "public keys", which is just a list of his supposed holdings.

It is a very weasely way to imply something, and then when people ask to back up your statement with proof, he will go back and say "umm, actually it was this different thing, and I can't show you proof because private keys are not the same as public keys!".

You should expect another excuse soon, as for why he actually can't move his coins.

<comment><AUTHOR> It's not clear what this encrypted document contains. I agree that nothing matters until he actually signs some message or moves some bitcoin to prove he owns it.

Either way BSV has quadrupled in four days, so there are certainly people who are heavily betting something will come of this.

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> Wright has forged signatures to prove his Satoshiness. _Maybe_ Kleiman was Satoshi, that could explain how Wright had knowledge that supposedly fooled Andresen, but Wright is clearly a scammer of some sort. My money is on this whole charade being a pump-n-dump scheme for Bitcoin SV.

<comment><USER4> This is the most logical conclusion, though why BSV is moving based on this makes little sense.

There was a post yesterday that I saw that suggested this is some kind of long con to try to get a court order to actually fork the BTC blockchain to give him access to Satoshi's coins -- absurd concept really, but not out of the realm of what this guy would think he could do.

</comment></comment><comment><USER5> Why on earth are people talking about this guy, is is a proven fraudster. He is lying for living and everybody knows it, yet somehow he is still talked about.

Is there some king of pattern in bs artists staying popular despite reality?

<comment><USER6> > Is there some king of pattern in bs artists staying popular despite reality?

Plenty of people want to see him get his comeuppance in court. It would be nice if the courts decided to punish his perjury.

</comment></comment><comment><USER7> If Wright's long history of deception wasn't enough evidence that this is bunk, the term "bonded courier" should be a clue.

It's conspicuously ostentatious and fake-official. When you think about it, why would data need to be delivered by a dude in a rented uniform?

</comment><comment><USER8> My money is on Hal Finney being Satoshi.

<comment><USER9> Part of me thinks that too, but if he was, why didnt he just admit it on his death bed?

<comment><USER8> I read that he selected euthanization in the circumstance when he could no longer able to communicate, and that came about.

Hal was one of those off-the-charts smart people, and was kind and well-liked by everyone. He also liked to prank people, and the Satoshi prank is just the kind of thing he'd do.

He was interviewed a few months before his death where he was asked if he was Satoshi, and he just smiled.

<comment><USER3> > He was interviewed a few months before his death where he was asked if he > was Satoshi, and he just smiled.

Sauce? I found an article from a few months before his death where he glances down (indicating a "no") when asked if he was involved in the creation of Bitcoin. He involuntarily smiles (but also glances down) when asked if he has any connection to Dorian Nakamoto.

[https://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/25/satosh...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/25/satoshi- nakamotos-neighbor-the-bitcoin-ghostwriter-who-wasnt/amp/)

<comment><USER8> That's it. Thanks for finding it.</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment>


Invasive Roots of Anti-Cheat Software [video] - <AUTHOR> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCmggziIsZg

<comment><USER2> Url changed from [http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/bsideslasvegas2014...](http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/bsideslasvegas2014/bg09-invasive- roots-of-anti-cheat-software-alissa-torres), which points to this.</comment>


Show HN: Multiplayer Tank HTML5 Game Demo - <AUTHOR> http://pauldufour.com/tank/

<comment><AUTHOR> All feedback is welcome. Bear in mind that it's a work in progress, though.</comment>