A Better Way To Learn Code - <AUTHOR>

Hello,
This is an idea for a better way to learn code. I am currently trying to learn Lisp from scratch on the recommendation of certain sources on the Internet. Personally, I find it very hard to learn just by reading a book and asking questions on the Internet because :
1) You can't see the person who is posting
2) You don't know whether what that person says is accurate or whether he/she is just trolling.
Have an idea to create either a video or an online website which shows the absolute beginner VISUALLY , in explicit detail how to create a website step-by-step using a particular language. I noticed that many people (including myself) want to have an individualized website nowadays but are unable to go about doing it because they get discouraged by the technical jargon, especially if they don't have any prior programming knowledge and have no friends to teach them. If anyone is interested in discussing an idea like this, please email me at email@example.com. Thanks a lot !
GY <comment><USER2> It seems like what you want is a learning resource that is geared towards having the learner building something real. In that case you should try Udacity's CS253([http://www.udacity.com/overview/Course/cs253/CourseRev/apr20...](http://www.udacity.com/overview/Course/cs253/CourseRev/apr2012)). It's a 7 week course that'll teach you how to build a blog using Python and Google App Engine and the video lectures have been recorded by Steve Huffman, co-founder of Reddit. If you want to learn LISP, then there is Land of Lisp(<http://landoflisp.com/>), which teaches you to make games using LISP, and for Python is the free to download Invent Your Own Computer Games with Python(<http://inventwithpython.com/>)

</comment><comment><USER3> The better way to learn to code is to try teaching. Go through the process of trying to explain what you've already learned to someone else and it will crystallize a lot faster than if you're just mulling it over yourself.

Once you're past the first stage of learning, where you're starting to understand what you _don't_ understand, you can make use of places like StackOverflow either as a reference or as a source of answers now that you know enough to frame a question.

The reason you don't see a lot of visual tutorials is because they're very time consuming to construct and present. Peep Code (<https://peepcode.com/>) does their best, though, but since this requires a lot of work, they charge for the lessons.

</comment><comment><USER4> Read code. Code. Repeat.

It's really that easy. Most people focus too much on reading articles when reading code from talented, experienced individuals helps you more than most articles.

To not read other people's code is to try to learn to write without ever reading other people's work.

I would love to see courses that do the equivalent of "book reports" where students pick large projects and read them end to end, producing qualitative comments and discourse on that code.

</comment><comment><USER5> I'm skeptical of the idea that watching a video is an efficient way to learn how to write code. This seems like a clear case where "youtubing" is a procrastination technique. Watching a video is not a substitute for solving an exercise problem.

</comment><comment><USER6> You are not having problem slearning how to "code". You are having problems learning how to design LISP programs. You will only learn by designing them, and posting the code online for others to help you. All there is to it.

</comment><comment><USER7> Hey, I just wrote a post about how I learned to make websites: <http://nickmudge.info/index.php?post=145>

</comment><comment><USER8> I'm also facing this uphill battle. The thing that bothers me is not knowing what I'm missing in a language I'm learning -- in Donald Rumsfeld's famous words, the "unknown unknowns."

<comment><USER9> I know the experience. When I started learning programming, I needed randomly access 1 of 50 objects. So, using Excel, I created something like: obj1=new foo(1); obj2=new foo(2)..., and a giant if ... else chain.

In general what I find works for this problem is that when you are doing something that seems like it should be easier, it probably is and you should look it up or ask in a forum.</comment></comment>


Ask HN: Yes, I can program, no I don't want to join your startup? - <AUTHOR>

My co-founder and I are working on our own startup (Launchbit), but despite this, we get approached all the time by non-technical aspiring entrepreneurs looking for developers.  Does this happen to you?
Just for fun, we were talking today about what it would take for a non-technical aspiring entrepreneur to poach us for their startup.  At first, I thought that nothing would, but in contemplating it more, it was interesting to think about what criteria was most important.  Would love your thoughts in this survey (and comments below) -- will compile the results and post them  on HN when we've collected and analyzed them.  Thanks!
http://bit.ly/hOoexC <comment><USER2> All the time. I typically respond with "What's going to stop me from taking your idea, developing it on my own, and having 100% equity?"

<comment><USER3> That's a good question.

If you look back in time, you'll definitely find a bunch of non-technical people looking to start technical businesses. Some of them have good track records of churning success out of it too.

Among these "non-technical" people, you'll find that some aren't entirely non- technical and they do understand what it takes to lure their target audience into using/buying what their business sells. For example: I have a cousin, a mechanical engineer, who's always looking to do mobile apps. He doesn't have the skill to develop them himself, but does have sufficient knowledge required to deal with any technical guy and reads a lot (possibilities on the specific platform, understands technical terms like 'Activity' understands that web services called 'APIs' are available for use, etc).

But again there are exceptions, and I guess we've all come across people who just blindly want to develop a GroupOn or Facebook clone, because the original ones were successful. These are the ones I would clearly stay away from by just politely giving them a good reason or try pushing some real business questions into their mind (like "do you have something different to offer?").

<comment><USER4> It's interesting how mechanical engineers pass as 'non-technical' these days :)

<comment><USER3> well, when I said 'non-technical' I was referring to those who do not want to put in the time to learn to understand the internals or the process of creation (where internals==mobile app development in the above case). In this case, IMO my cousin can be labelled so, since he doesn't want to put in the time to skim thru the development of a simple app and just wants others to do it. Again, opinions differ and I would love to hear what you have in mind.

Apologies for not being clear earlier.

P.S: That cousin of mine is a mech engg but works for an accountancy firm :)

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> Clickable: <http://bit.ly/hOoexC>

<comment><AUTHOR> thanks! missed that

<comment><USER6> There's no way to get a clickable link in a submission - hence why there is usually a "clickable" comment (which just includes the URL - news.arc turns it into a link automatically.)

<comment><AUTHOR> ah thanks! still kinda noobish to talking on HN. I mostly lurk.</comment></comment></comment></comment>


FBI catches hacker that stole Nintendo's secrets for years - <AUTHOR> https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/02/fbi-catches-hacker-that-stole-nintendos-secrets-for-years/ <comment><USER2> >FBI agents confronted Hernandez about his hacking in 2017, according to a prosecution press release, and secured a promise from Hernandez "to stop any further malicious activity."

Is it common for the FBI to knock on criminals' doors and ask them to cut it out?

</comment><comment><USER3> Nintendo is the least of his worries given that BAD STUFF folder.

</comment><comment><USER4> As this didn't seem to be for profit, what are the prospects on obtaining the $260,000 judgment?</comment>


Show HN: AZN Asian Snack Store for iOS - <AUTHOR> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/azn-asian-snacks-nicknacks/id1136398870?mt=8 <comment><AUTHOR> Hey HN. My team and I built this ecommerce app both as a demo and to fulfill some needs (One of my co-workers felt it was often hard to find some of his favorite snacks that he grew up with–especially when he was away at university).

Right now, all the products are sourced from a couple stores in San Francisco.

Would love feedback on both (a) the overall design and usability of the app and (b) the inventory options. If you have any favorite snacks/foods you'd like to see here, please let me know.

TIA</comment>


The Great Trap for All Americans - <AUTHOR> http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/10/13/slavery-great-trap-for-all-americans/ <comment><USER2>
      New England was never a "slave society"—where slaves
      performed the bulk of labor—but it depended heavily on
      slavery nonetheless, due to its economic entanglement
      with the Caribbean. As a crucial supplier of provisions
      to the sugar islands, New England, one captain
      observed, was truly "the key of the Indies without
      w[hi]ch Jamaica, Barbados & the Caribee Islands are not
      able to subsist."

Something that, we should note, still occurs to a degree today. At the end of the last century it was an outcry over sweatshops in, particularly, impoverished countries. These past several years over where and how our electronic products are produced. Deliberately or not, wealthier nations and people are still exploiting poorer nations and people by a similar dynamic as New England and the Indies.

<comment><USER3> Indeed, just finished the book "Cod" which gives some fascinating details for one example of new England (and also "nonslaving" European countries) indirectly profiting of the slave trade

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> I think this article touches on a very interesting philosophical paradox of human nature. It's hard to state pithily, but I'll try. We're all slaves to something or someone (Bob Dylan's "Gotta Serve Somebody" comes to mind). There's no way to escape that... a well-functioning society is made up of laborers serving other people (if you disagree, you haven't made any money). So in a sense "freedom" comes from voluntary service.

<comment><USER5> The escape mechanism from this generalized view of slavery is _competition_. Yes, you have to serve someone, but if you have a _choice_ of who serve that gives you leverage, because if one master mistreats you, you can go serve a different one.

But maintaining competition is not easy because there's a positive feedback effect: once an entity starts to accumulate disproportionate power, they can then use that power to effect political change that makes it harder -- or even impossible -- for others to compete. In network-based markets where the value of the product increases with the number of people using it, the positive feedback effect is even stronger. It's a hard problem, but crucially important.

<comment><USER6> Why not _cooperation_? Competition lets a market — something not known to have human values — decide how you can serve. With cooperation, you work together with other humans and can decide together the best way to serve each other.

Of course, scaling cooperation, and especially decision mechanisms is hard. Markets are great at scaling at least (well, until externalities crop up), but they definitely aren't the _only_ solution! (especially in a world with realtime worldwide computer mediated collaboration systems)

<comment><USER4> Scaling cooperation is impossible because for a given person, it can only work within that person's trust network.

<comment><USER7> That would only imply that it is difficult, not impossible.

<comment><USER4> Good point.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER8> What the article is about, is the history of Slavery in the North-American continent since the time of the English Colonies. The actual content is pretty interesting, from a historical point of view.

The headline was meant to highlight a crap shot the author takes at current American society; everybody claims that every _perceived_ slight to their dignity is equivalent to an actual attempt at their freedom.

However, that is not what this piece is about and you will do yourself a diservice if you skip it because it is 'click-baity'. Just trim down the first 2 paragraphs and the last one and you will filter out the noise without any lose of the actual signal.

<comment><USER9> >Just trim down the first 2 paragraphs and the last one and you will filter out the noise without any lose of the actual signal.

No. It's not the readers' responsibility to approach an article and then have explicitly filter out the casual outrage-baiting and thinly veiled, poorly informed political advocacy which is par for the course in most online media. If they want us to read their articles, they can damn well not insult our intelligence in the process. Until then, there's plenty of other things to read.

<comment><USER10> We live in an age of abundant, easily vettable information. By your presence here on HN I would assume in fact that you are a rather well-educated person, which is why I figured I'd respond to something on the internet.

Sadly the abundance of information out there, not to mention the seeming biological inability for humans to think in a purely rational way ( [https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Bias](https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Bias) ) means that it's very difficult not to encounter some noise in scholarship. If you cannot read past even open bias to engage with a reading critically and openly, you handicap your ability to gain new knowledge (even that which may disagree with a reading's thesis!) and to respond to the misconceptions and biases of those who do not read or think critically. This advances ignorance or apathy over knowledge and does a disservice to free-thinking citizens the world over, especially in a democracy if you're so fortunate to live in one.

Now no one can force you to engage in a discussion or debate you'd rather not be a part of, and it's perfectly normal to not find interest in historical questions and essays. But to dismiss a scholarly reading on the basis of whether it has bias at all, rather than the more reasonable basis that said bias is not identified, not minimized or not properly segregated from the argument in question, is irrational.

<comment><USER9> There's a difference between having the ability to tune out noise when you come across it, and deliberately seeking it out -- or not avoiding it if you are warned in advance.

Furthermore, this type of noise in particular is generally an excellent hint that the actual "educational" content is going to be less educational and more propaganda.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER11> De-clickbaited headline: "The great trap for all Americans is prejudice"

<comment><USER12> Is every intriguing headline called clickbait now?

It's not like they said "9 great traps all Americans fall into. Number 3 will blow your mind!"

<comment><USER11> The headline was clearly written to get people to say, "Hmm, a great trap? And it affects _all_ Americans? I wonder what this trap is. Some kind of alligator, maybe? My brain will not allow me to get any work done until I find out the nature of said trap."

<comment><USER13> Literary-journal article titles have been clickbait of this nature since before the Web existed. Buzzfeed has nothing to teach the NYRB.

<comment><USER11> This is true; before it was bait for clicks, it was bait to get you to pull the magazine off the rack.

Different technology, same user-hostile purpose.

<comment><USER14> I wonder what the line between "user hostile" and just regular writing is. In English class I'm pretty sure we were told to do things similar to this (get the reader's attention).

<comment><USER15> There's a difference between not boring your user _after_ he decided to read your piece, and tricking your user into reading your piece.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER16> The Empire of Necessity was a very interesting book.

</comment><comment><USER17> "Comments" is clickbait in this instance.</comment>


Looks like JP Morgan got caught buying Bitcoin today (use google translate) - <AUTHOR> https://www.nordnet.dk/mux/popups/marknaden/aktiehemsidan/avslut.html?containerid=avslut&identifier=113749&marketplace=11&limit=100000 <comment><USER2> FYI- Myself and almost all the hardcore bitcoiners I know feel the recent price drop was due to China, not Dimon. Dimon has been making these pronouncements for years, and things had already started to turn with the rumors coming out of china.

Even then the recent drop was basically just a big trading opportunity-- the rumors kept building and once an exchange said they were going to shut down, all the whales piled in at once... to kill the price and take profits and drive out the weak hands.

And then when the other exchanges were clearly going to shut down and all the shorts had been built up, these same whales piled in at once again to get coins at a lower price.

Thats why the move is so dramatic and so quick.

I don't think this was collusion. I don't think this was coordinated or communicated or even intentional-- it was just an obvious trade and so a bunch of people jumped on it.

One thing about BTC is that it is a free market, and that means you don't have market makers who act as stops on price movements (or trading hours, LOL!) and so things are very different there.

This is why the general advice is HODL. Just buy bitcoin using dollar cost averaging, don't risk too much and hold it. Timing the market is a PITA, and I'm convinced impossible on the micro. On the macro scale, though, HODL is the best strategy.

PS; here by HODL I mean "hold on for dear life". Don't get shaken out of your coins by roller coaster weeks like this one.

<comment><USER3> What do you mean by "hardcore bitoiner"? Just curious.

<comment><USER4> He uses the colloquialisms of a day-trader. I worry about his future.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> Or better described, they bought securities on the behalf of one of their clients using a nominee account. They didn't buy it for themselves.

</comment><comment><USER6> Follow the cheese.. JPMorgan's top quant strategist, echoing CEO, compares bitcoin to 'pyramid scheme'

[https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/09/15/jpmorgans-top-quant- stra...](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/09/15/jpmorgans-top-quant-strategist- echoing-ceo-compares-bitcoin-to-pyramid-scheme.html)

<comment><USER7> I wonder what they'd call the Federal Reserve, a private entity that's accountable to nobody.

<comment><USER8> Exactly. Considering they are a member of the federal reserve and a benefit of the structure, they won't say anything.

<comment><USER6> So strategically you have to say one thing and do the opposite... Bloomberg / cnbc and others classic media propaganda brings profit to whom pays more

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> I've been following bitcoin for a while and understand that there's been interesting stuff going on the the space for a while. That said I really can't understand what fundamentals could possibly be driving the recent price rally. I started to get into it more heavily back in late 2016 when there was legitimate volume and fundaments due to use as a instrument to avoid Chinese currency controls. But now it seems like it's solely a speculative thing, albeit with some relationship with the greater blockchain ecosystem. Even if blockchain technologies do take off, why would bitcoin benefit or gain a some fundamentals in the market?

<comment><USER2> It's important to understand that Bitcoin is a new asset class we haven't really seen before-- it's the first technological money.

So, it's "market cap" is not based on shares like a stock is, it's more like other forms of money.

Yet its price is the result of it going thru the technology adoption lifecycle, and it keeps jumping up as inflation slows and ever wider groups of adopters start owning some.

In the past year, it has been made much more easily owned and accessible as an investment in South Korea and Japan, and of course it is highly relevant to the Chinese. These trends will continue for awhile.

It will be "speculative" until it is mainstream. The only thing making it "speculative" is that it isn't more widely adopted, but to be widely adopted there will have to be much higher prices, given the very limited supply.

There's not going to be enough bitcoin for every millionaire in the world to own even one of them.

<comment><USER9> My understand was that much of the innovations is happening with the general set of blockchain technologies, most of it happening on chains other than BTC (ETH). Why should bitcoin be correlated with them?

<comment><USER10> There is plenty of innovation on the bitcoin platform.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER11> Or more accurately, a JP Morgan customer bought a Bitcoin ETN.

</comment><comment><USER12> Bitcoin is becoming solely a speculation object with great negative effects on the environment.

<comment><USER13> Clearly, you are oblivious or willfully ignorant of the massive amount of innovative development occurring in the space.

<comment><USER14> Can you name any services currently available and useful for anything other than speculation?

<comment><USER15> Fold let's you buy from common stores like Starbucks with bitcoin. I haven't actually used it, but I hear it's good.

<comment><USER16> Nobody will use anything that includes $3-5 transaction fees to buy something unless it's over $500. That you haven't used it is prototypical. Nobody has used it because traditional alternatives like Visa, Mastercard, or cash are better.

<comment><USER15> I doubt it happens directly on the blockchain, but there are plenty of things built on top of bitcoin that make that work. Its like arguing that no one uses bank accounts for small purchases because wire transfers are too annoying.

<comment><USER14> How does the payment you're describing work, if it's not on the blockchain?

<comment><USER15> I'd imagine it uses a lightning network or something.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER17> Can someone be kind enough to explain how they filtered the results to produce the resulting page linked by OP?

[https://www.nordnet.dk/mux/popups/marknaden/aktiehemsidan/av...](https://www.nordnet.dk/mux/popups/marknaden/aktiehemsidan/avslut.html?containerid=avslut&identifier=113749&marketplace=11&limit=100000)

There seems to be an identifier, but not sure what it pertains to.

Thank you for your help !

</comment><comment><USER18> Its not clear to me how this proves they are buying it? Is there some further background around this. Perhaps as other posters suggested, its for a client

<comment><USER19> It probably is. But as we've seen with ICOs, the average crypto-currency nerd is not very smart.

</comment></comment><comment><USER20> There are so many cases of JPM/Goldman/etc. advising customers of 1 direction while they themselves, do the exact opposite, it is no longer noteworthy... just cheerfully accept and internalize that they are _SCUM_ and get on with your life.

<comment><USER21> JP Morgan Chase's prop trading desk isn't part of JP Morgan Securities Ltd.</comment></comment>


Ask HN: Do you feel nostalgia for the office life? - <AUTHOR> <comment><USER2> Yes because my favourite part of work is collaborating, coaching or just working together to solve a problem and while you can do it online it's just more painful and less fun than it needs to be, especially while looking after 2 small children in the background.

</comment><comment><USER3> yes, definitely. I had a depression last year and I was slowly recovering from it, after everything became remote, less conversation with people, more pushing myself to work harder, because no one sees you are working and for people with imposter syndrome, layoff news and other mental issues you start worrying about your job and push to work more. which again leads to anxiety

</comment><comment><USER4> Yes. Regardless of how good your remote working tools are, it's still no match for a face to face conversation.

</comment><comment><USER5> A bit. I miss:

\- Not having to remote connect via Citrix

\- The fully-stocked pantry fridge full of drinks

\- Seeing people from other teams (if I worked with them I might feel differently about this)

\- An array of lunch places all around me

I don't miss:

\- Having 2 monitors instead of 3

\- Wearing business-y clothes 5 days a week

\- Being unable to take a quick shower/break on the couch/etc whenever I need to

\- Taking calls/meetings/etc in private

\- Commuting

</comment><comment><USER6> No, really enjoying the WFH. So much more productive, and communication is better. Plus, less stress than trying to work in a loud office environment.

</comment><comment><USER7> not at all. I enjoy coding in my bed.</comment>


Remembering Danny Lewin - <AUTHOR> http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/144090/fighting-genius-on-flight-11

<comment><USER2> I found the article Slate published today more interesting [http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/history/2013/09/dan...](http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/history/2013/09/danny_lewin_the_first_victim_on_9_11_and_an_architect_of_the_internet.html) (was written by the author of Lewin's bio)

</comment><comment><USER3> I respect that we should remember the victims and particularly those related to the tech industry on HN, but this article is difficult to read based on how often the author has to over-emphasize Lewin's achievements.

</comment><comment><USER4> I am really disappointed in the lack of news we get about Sept 11 now.

<comment><USER5> What "lack of news"? And about _what_? There are memorials all day. What is there to be disappointed about?

<comment><USER4> Go to yahoo.com, huffingtonpost.com, you have to search for an article talking about it.

<comment><USER5> Look, it was a terrible event in our history. But, 1) it happened 12 years ago (yes, I was a working adult back then, I remember exactly what I was doing and mourned with the rest of the country), at some point you stop pouring salt in a wound, and 2) if anything, America's response to 9/11 has completely squandered any rightful outrage we had over it. Look at what happened in response to 9/11 -- everything is "terrorism", blanket spying on Americans, indefinite detention, war against "terrorism"?? -- and all I can say is that the terrorists achieved at least partially what they were going for. David Foster Wallace said it best:

 _...what if we chose to accept the fact that every few years, despite all reasonable precautions, some hundreds or thousands of us may die in the sort of ghastly terrorist attack that a democratic republic cannot 100-percent protect itself from without subverting the very principles that make it worth protecting?

Is this thought experiment monstrous? Would it be monstrous to refer to the 40,000-plus domestic highway deaths we accept each year because the mobility and autonomy of the car are evidently worth that high price? Is monstrousness why no serious public figure now will speak of the delusory trade-off of liberty for safety that Ben Franklin warned about more than 200 years ago? What exactly has changed between Franklin's time and ours? Why now can we not have a serious national conversation about sacrifice, the inevitability of sacrifice—either of (a) some portion of safety or (b) some portion of the rights and protections that make the American idea so incalculably precious?_

[http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/11/just- ask...](http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/11/just- asking/306288/)</comment></comment></comment></comment>


Gotta wonder if Steve knows - <AUTHOR> http://scripting.com/stories/2010/06/12/gottaWonderIfSteveKnows.html <comment><USER2> More than once, when I had a Lenovo ThinkPad that needed depot service for a hardware fault, Lenovo has told me to remove the HD and keep it; at the depot they insert a temporary freshly-imaged HD, complete the repair and battery of tests, and send the ThinkPad back to me empty, for me to replace my own HD. (If I were still to have a problem, then I could complete the repair myself by replacing the HD.) This has always worked flawlessly.

<comment><USER3> That's great. But with new Apple laptops, there's no way to remove the hard drive, let alone replace the battery :(

<comment><USER4> Oh Really?

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoHNcjCyAvU&feature=relat...](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoHNcjCyAvU&feature=related)

<comment><USER3> … without voiding the guarantee ?

<comment><USER5> They might not replace your computer if you mess it up while taking it apart, but you're not going to have a problem getting support with a new hard drive.

My coworker replaced the keyboard in a MacBook Pro and when he called to ask AppleCare if they would still honor the warranty they said yes.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> My gf had to take her laptop into the Genius Bar a little while ago for an airport issue. Apparently, a routine part of the intake process is to ask for the user's account password. This pissed me off so much I almost caused a scene in the store.

Obviously, if they have the hardware, they can do pretty much whatever they'd like, so it wasn't that they would be able to use it to look at her personal files or whatever (we had already removed anything personal before bringing it in).

It was that they, acting as a trusted authority, were telling people that it's okay to give away your password. It also means that anyone who uses the same password for their machine as they do for their email or their other accounts is handing their life over. Of course people shouldn't be doing this, but of course very many do, and it's just completely irresponsible of Apple to explicitly put people in a position where this could easily be exploited by some faceless tech behind the counter.

As much as I love their products, I really hate how Apple operates sometimes.

<comment><USER7> Whenever I've had to bring my computer in, they've always told me to create a new account called something like "Apple" or "Apple Store", and they probably should have asked for the same thing from her.

I suppose there are times where the computer won't boot and they really don't have any other choice besides asking you for your password--the employee might have just mixed up their protocol, though that's not to say that it excuses that mistake.

<comment><USER8> How is it that they need to know the password in that instance? If the problem is that the computer doesn't boot, they just have to get it to boot, not log in to your profile and start monkeying around.

<comment><USER9> Sometimes there is a software issue, firmware update, diagnostic software etc that can help.

Not always, but it happens enough that they'd need to be able to log-in.

Still agree that asking for your pwd is reckless.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> Isn't it obvious why this policy exists?

Apple doesn't want to be in the business of fielding customer complaints about missing or unreadable files. Which, in the context of a hard drive replacement or repair, is not exactly an uncommon outcome.

Apple also doesn't want to be in the business of helping people recover files from dead drives.

Apple _really, really_ doesn't want to be in the business of ensuring that the drive it removed from a computer goes back to the same owner as the original machine. Try to imagine what the Apple repair depo looks like: Drives everywhere. Try to remember that a drive inside a computer is protected by a user password, but a drive sitting outside the computer is not protected at all. Except perhaps by Filevault, which many users do not enable. If you think getting _no_ drive back is bad, imagine the scandal if you got someone else's drive, and someone else got your drive.

Apple's simple policy solves all of these problems. They don't send drives back. Instead they promise to erase them. Either you find this credible or you don't. If you don't, you'd better be using Filevault, because once you put an unencrypted drive in the hands of a tech its content is as good as disclosed. And if you are using Filevault, what is the problem with refurbing your drive? It's filled with unreadable encrypted data!

Finally, dare I suggest that nobody except the typical HN reader is better at disposing of old hard drives without a security incident than Apple is? I bet if you hand a broken hard drive back to the average buyer, outside of a computer, 90% of those drives will eventually get thrown away intact. Exactly how is throwing a readable hard drive in your local dumpster more secure than Apple's dedicated drive-erasure-or-disposal facility?

<comment><USER11> > Exactly how is throwing a readable hard drive in your local dumpster more > secure than Apple's dedicated drive-erasure-or-disposal facility?

I agree with many of your points, but would argue throwing a hard drive in a dumpster is more secure. Bank robbers rob banks because _that's where the money is._ Where would tech savvy people looking for unerased hard drives find a supply--where the hard drives are! Those folks are more likely to work at Apple than dumpster dive for a living.

<comment><USER10> Well, it depends on the threat model. If someone has the plan to search through a thousand hard drives belonging to a cross-section of random people, one byte at a time, looking for something of value, then sure - it might be worth the effort to corrupt someone at Apple.

But if you are an industrial spy looking for a particular secret, or a personal enemy looking for data about one person, or an aspiring burglar casing a particular building - you look in the trash can belonging to your target.

I think the latter threat is as plausible as the former.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER8> I don't understand why companies can't leave hard drives alone. My little brother recently sent in a Dell Studio for a keyboard repair. He went against my advice and went through Best Buy for the RMA instead of doing it himself. He signed a bunch of documents denying liability and giving Dell/BB the right to do whatever they wanted with the machine, pretty much.

When he got the laptop back, he was told that the "hard drive was going bad", so they proactively replaced it with a new one with a default image. This made me really mad, but they don't care or understand. Even if it was going bad, that was still HIS hard drive. The computer was still under warranty so they should have shipped the old disk back with the new.

I don't trust anyone else to clean out disks on my behalf. There are far too many instances of negligence on the matter. If the drive really was going bad, they should have sent it back and let me destroy and dispose of it personally.

How do I know that they don't have a FBI hookup that scans all of the "bad" drives before refurbishing or disposing, or how do I know that they don't have a contract with the MPAA/RIAA to allow their anti-piracy goons to do that? How do I know it doesn't pass through a group of teenagers who parse it for nudes, as happens at most computer repair shops?

Yeah, it sucks pretty bad. My family is completely indifferent to it and it's probably too late to call and try to get something done about it. : (

<comment><USER12> If you don't want your stuff to end up in weird places, wipe the hard drive before sending the computer to repair.

The computer could get lost/stolen while in shipment. The repairment isn't the only potential leaks for your personal stuff.

<comment><USER13> And these days we are grateful to have companies like Dropbox or Backupify for that.

<comment><USER14> I just use an external. Bigger, faster, no subscription fee.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER15> All the more reason to TrueCrypt/FileVault your drives

</comment><comment><USER16> As you can see below, this post was timed perfectly for me. I was at the Apple store to get a harddrive replaced 10 minutes after this was posted. I did a little digging and wrote a blog post on the same issue, which I'll post here to prevent 100 apple stories from taking up the front page.

 _I'm angry because I think apple is earning money from product failure!_

[http://pathdependent.com/2010/06/12/apple-owns-your- harddriv...](http://pathdependent.com/2010/06/12/apple-owns-your-harddrive/)

<comment><USER17> Aren't there other shops in the US that will repair your MacBook for you? It's not as if you have to go there, at least not if you are out of warranty.

<comment><USER16> I believe it's an Apple policy. For example, see: [http://www.macservice.com/applemacbookair.html?_kk=macbook%2...](http://www.macservice.com/applemacbookair.html?_kk=macbook%20air%20repair&_kt=077b97e4-93bc-4155-8f34-634ea08674ca&gclid=CKbx3f-um6ICFRY75QodBEksxQ)

 _The old drive (working or not) is returned to Apple. If you wish to keep your original drive, Apple charges a significant core charge._

<comment><USER17> Non-Apple shops, obviously.

<comment><USER16> I wanted the OEM harddrive. From what I understand, they are difficult to source for unauthorized service providers. (The link I responded was an Authorized Service Provider.)

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER18> When I've sent a laptop to AppleCare, they're very explicit about the possibility that they won't return the same drive, and that you should backup your data. That said, they've never actually taken a drive from me. So Winer's claim that "they take the old drive" isn't well researched.

Beyond that, Winer straight up doesn't know what they do with the drives; it's pure speculation. What he's really saying is that he doesn't trust Apple. If that's the case, he should take it to an independent Authorized Apple Service Provider that he does — it's just that simple. [Edit: not only can you still get AppleCare coverage at independent providers, but you can easily negotiate with a technician to keep your drive. At the place I worked, the drives that customers abandoned we took great pleasure in destroying!]

Further, when Winer says, "If Steve thinks it's confidential, maybe he should take some steps to protect the info?" — is that not exactly what he's doing?

<comment><USER19> I believe that Winer is talking about cases in which the hard drive will be replaced. If you know your disk has issues, but it still operates, shouldn't you be able to keep your old drive?

It seems shady to me to give over an old drive full of personal information without giving the user the option to keep it.

<comment><USER18> Yeah I guess you're right, looking back at this. I mean, why not just give the original drive back? There's no good reason. You're right.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER20> "I mean seriously, most of us don't have the kind of money Steve has. If our bank accounts were cleared out by an identity thief we'd be fairly screwed."

But if Steve's bank account was cleared out, he'd be OK somehow? $0 is $0 regardless of how much money you had before you lost everything.

<comment><USER21> People with Steve's wealth don't keep their life savings in a checking account. Any single checking or savings account is on the order of 100,000th of his total net worth.

<comment><USER20> I think that says more about how one should manage or protect their money than about Apple's repair policy. If losing your computer would bankrupt you, you're doing it wrong....

<comment><USER19> Exactly. It for this reason that tools such as dd, rsync, and Time Machine exist.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER22> I just came from the Apple store. There was a problem with my brand new machine, so they replaced the whole machine and did a data transfer for me. Without me even asking, the tech assured me that a secure disk erase is part of the data migration procedure.

</comment><comment><USER16> HackerNews is almost omniscient. I am in the Apple Store right now, waiting for a genius to talk to me to replace my first gen Air drive. I did not know I couldn't get my drive. Now I can at least prepare for the argument and try to stay civil.

<comment><USER23> They gave me mine back. It's useless without a unique ribbon connector though.

</comment></comment><comment><USER24> Is there really a market for refurbished hard drives? They are so cheap new.

<comment><USER25> Presumably they go in refurbished macs, which apple sells on their website.

<comment><USER26> Has anyone ever tried (publicly) to recover previous user data from one of them?

<comment><USER27> I've personally run some recovery programs on a Samsung replacement drive I received (from Samsung, not Apple) and I was able to recover files that presumably belonged to a previous owner. I didn't bother checking if it contained any personal information (I was only interested in recovering a corrupted dotfile), but it seems possible that sensitive information could have been contained on said drive.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER28> Had a bad drive on a iMac 2 yrs ago. They asked if I wanted my defective drive. Of course I said yes. This was at a genius bar.</comment>


Defense Distributed Injunction Denied in Suppression of Gun-Related Net Speech - <AUTHOR> https://reason.com/blog/2015/08/07/defense-distributed-injunction-denied-in

<comment><USER2> yet one more reason why encryption and private communications are necessary.</comment>


Node.js Worker Farm - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/rvagg/node-worker-farm

<comment><USER2> Sweet, how does it compare to threads-a-gogo with say performance?

<comment><AUTHOR> Worker Farm uses complete child processes with data-channel communication (via a pipe, as provided by Node's child_process.fork()). So, in terms of computing performance it should be pretty good but the communication may start letting you down if you're throwing lots of data around.

The main benefit is in the simplicity and durability, but don't use it unless you have a good use-case for it that goes beyond what a single Node process affords you.

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> There's also this <https://npmjs.org/package/webworker-threads></comment>


Microsoft Announces Windows 10 - <AUTHOR> http://live.theverge.com/microsoft-windows-9-event-live-blog/ <comment><USER2> What in the world is an Arduino Yun doing in this picture of Windows devices: [http://files.tested.com/photos/2014/09/30/68049-windows_prod...](http://files.tested.com/photos/2014/09/30/68049-windows_product_family_9-30-event-741x416.png)

See item on farthest left, it's an Arduino Yun board without the sticker: [http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardYun?from=Products.Ardu...](http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardYun?from=Products.ArduinoYUN)

The Yun has a 400mhz MIPS processor (and an 8-bit AVR for Arduino compatibility) that runs Linux and I would wager will never run a variant of Windows 10. Did somebody in marketing or whatever just search for Arduino and slap the first picture they saw on the slide?

<comment><USER3> Those are vary similar boards, but I don't think there identical. On the bottom right of the Arduino there are 4 holes that line up with six others on the left side of the board. Note how there not parrellel with the bottom. Now compare that with the windows show it's got a line on the left bit it's not continued on the right side.

My guess is it's a different Arduino board or an x86 board that's trying to fit the same form factor which uses similar chips in similar places.

<comment><USER4> It looks like an Intel Gallieo Board

[http://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/Windows-Developer- Prog...](http://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/Windows-Developer-Program-for- IoT)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> I would personally like to see good defaults (I don't understand the big icons on taskbar nor any forced integration with any Microsoft markets), workspaces (more than 2) and flexible customization of visuals (not just transparency, colours and fonts) and some kind of a package manager for programs (at least set a standard/options for new installations of third-party programs to bind their update servers with a windows package manager). Perhaps a selection of normal user vs power user on installation would be welcome.

I know I'm describing Linux desktop environments, but I have problems with drivers and hardware managers on Linux distros (with my T420) and I don't think the desktop environments are polished as much as Windowses and Mac OS's are. It feels like I have to put that extra effort in just to get things set up correctly. (I've used Gnome, Xfce and awesome)

<comment><USER6> > some kind of a package manager for programs

Microsoft's Windows Management Framework v5.0 will include PowerShell OneGet [1]. This is probably the closest thing to a package manager in Windows.

[1] [http://blogs.technet.com/b/keithmayer/archive/2014/04/16/wha...](http://blogs.technet.com/b/keithmayer/archive/2014/04/16/what- s-new-in-powershell-getting-started-with-oneget-in-one-line-with- powershell-5-0.aspx)

<comment><USER7> [https://chocolatey.org/](https://chocolatey.org/) \- apt-get for Windows, basically. It's not as capable as its Linux brethren, but it's perfectly usable, and it takes a lot of pain out of setting up a Windows box. "cinst GoogleChrome" is as painless as you'd expect.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER8> "One product family. One platform. One store. Windows... One. Wait no, _Ten_."

This level of cluelessness from Microsoft's branding team would be stunning if it hadn't been the rule for a decade and more. The OS itself looks nice, though.

<comment><USER9> The presenter said that Windows 1 had been done already, and showed a photo of Bill with a floppy disk.

Not sure what would be better - WinX? Windows One? WindOne? W1ndows?

<comment><USER10> Windows 1.0 was 28 years ago. There will be exactly _zero_ confusion if they recycled the (IMO superior) name.

<comment><USER11> Until the next version.

Windows One 2? Windows 360? Windows 12?

<comment><USER12> We have already established the One comes after 360.

<comment><USER13> I thought it went one s, one x, one and one....

<comment><USER14> Where does OnePlus fall into all this?

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER15> Interesting. Seems like they have capitulated on all the major complaints. Although strategically calling it 10 messes up the 'only odd number Windows are worth using' mantra :-).

Did they mention if it will run on ARM? Not the RT nonsense but full up all APIs Windows? I am sort of expecting them to poke back at Intel after the divorce.

<comment><USER16> _capitulated on all the major complaints_

Or you could call it _listened to_

<comment><USER15> I would expect they are always listening and evaluating. Capitulation being the change of their assertion that Windows 8 features were 'best' and then going back to the way they were in Windows 7. The reasons for that change of opinion might be that they listened to customer complaints, it might be that they compared adoption rates of this version of Windows to the previous version, or it might be something else.

So when the opinion changes from what it was, to something it was previously, I see that as capitulation. When an opinion changes from what it was, to something new, I see that as advancement.

It isn't a negative evaluation, its a statement of direction of change.

<comment><USER16> I can follow that reasoning, though I always looked at their _Windows 8 features were 'best'_ statements as pure marketing instead of an actual assertion (you know, like commercials for washing powder which somehow gets better than the previous version every couple of months) - no way everyone at MS was really considering it 'best'. The idea of the hybrid-style OS isn't all that bad, but the way it came out wasn't exactly top notch.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER17> ctr+V will finally work as paste in command prompt. Finally !

<comment><USER18> It's hilarious that this makes it into the demo.

<comment><USER19> It is hilarious how terrible the terminal emulator is on Windows in general.

It wasn't a big deal with CMD as, frankly, CMD barely got touched since forever. But they've been actively developing Powershell now for many years but yet shoved it into the same antiquated terminal emulator.

I'm glad they're at least looking at it. Next up hopefully Control Panel. Barely changed since Windows 95 and subpar relative to what Apple do in OS X.

<comment><USER20> It's (I think) symptomatic of an organization that prioritizes new-hotness work over old-and-busted work.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER21> I stumbled on this on Google and got incredibly confused: [http://www.infoworld.com/article/2613504/microsoft- windows/m...](http://www.infoworld.com/article/2613504/microsoft- windows/microsoft-skips--too-good--windows-9--jumps-to-windows-10.html)

<comment><USER22> You must have missed the "April Fools Joke" part at the end of the article.

</comment></comment><comment><USER23> I would really like some new version of Windows, regardless of the number, to really rethink the install/uninstall process. Really sandbox new software in and when you uninstall it, it really absolutely removes everything, instead of leaving garbage all over the system.

And also to improve the install process, let's please move beyond the install wizard. The user shouldn't have to click "next" 5 screens in a row where there are no options of any kind. Something more OS X-like would be nice.

<comment><USER24> That was the hope with the Windows Store. Unfortunately it was Metro only.

<comment><USER25> Rumors are, that the Windows Store in Win10 will feature a lot more content than Metro Apps, including Desktops Apps, and other content.

\- [http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-10-windows-store-to- suppo...](http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-10-windows-store-to-support-more- than-modern-apps)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER26> They're really bad at numbering. First the Xbox One, and now this

<comment><USER27> Looking forward to the next windows. Windows 360. Oh no, Windows 365. Yeah, that's better. Comes bundled with Office 365 and you have to rent it for a monthly fee. And if you are behind with a payment, the thing refuses to boot or will only let you view your files in read-only mode or something.

</comment></comment><comment><USER28> They have three main buttons on the taskbar now (start, search, workspaces) - anyone remember the Chicago betas? [http://i.imgur.com/MZoowWG.jpg](http://i.imgur.com/MZoowWG.jpg)

<comment><USER22> Man, I miss those days!

</comment></comment><comment><USER29> Workspaces! I've been using them in Linux since 10 years ago.

<comment><USER30> Here's the Wikipedia article about their history:

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_desktop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_desktop)

</comment></comment><comment><USER31> What's the internal version number going to be? 6.3, or are they jumping to 7.0?

<comment><USER28> 8.1 is NT 6.3 (if your program declares the correct manifest, otherwise it shows 6.2). My bet is on 6.4, or perhaps a larger jump within 6.x (like how ME was 4.90)

</comment></comment><comment><USER32> Technically we're still waiting on Windows 7. ;-)

[http://msdn.microsoft.com/en- us/library/windows/desktop/ms72...](http://msdn.microsoft.com/en- us/library/windows/desktop/ms724832\(v=vs.85\).aspx)

</comment><comment><USER33> "Going forward, Microsoft is planning to make regular, smaller updates to the Windows 10 codebase, rather than pushing out new major updates years apart"

Sounds familiar. Do all operating systems stop at 10 now?

<comment><USER34> That sounds like a good idea to me - one version with frequent small free updates.

<comment><USER33> I agree. I think the age of massive OS overhauls is over, especially since all OS's are starting to look rather similar.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER35> My check list to switch to Windows:

[x] Multiple desktops

[ ] Command line package manager like OSX's brew

[ ] Unified application install/upgrade center

[ ] Better terminal (tabs, anti-aliased fonts, split view)

[ ] Basic GNU utils (grep, ssh, find)

<comment><USER36> Concerning your second item: I'm not sure how it compares, but there's chocolatey: [https://chocolatey.org/](https://chocolatey.org/)

Concerning #4 there's Console2, ConEmu, and Cmder which is a package with ConEmu.

There are solutions for all but one of the above, which I mention because Brew isn't an Apple driven solution, so I assume you don't mind other decent solutions not provided by Microsoft.

<comment><USER35> Yes, I am fine with non Microsoft solutions. Chocolatey is good but is very sparse when it comes to packages. Also, it is no match for [brewcask]([http://caskroom.io/](http://caskroom.io/)). Updated my checklist - thanks for the list

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER37> I get the feeling there was a major overhaul of development and engineering since Windows 8, and this is the result. It reminds me of the reset that was done after the "failure" of Windows Vista.

And there is definitely an underlying tone of "we were wrong, but we're going to fix it" when it comes to the many UI paradigm shifts introduced in Windows 8.

</comment><comment><USER38> I guess they have OS X envy? Or just putting even more distance between this version and Windows 8? An odd choice.

<comment><USER39> Apple did it first. Apple also skipped version 9 to go right to "X".

<comment><USER40> [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_9](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_9)

<comment><USER39> Oh I remember the release, but it was a complete bluff/joke. System 9 was really just an incremental update of System 8, but it was given a new number because (a) they were still years away from finishing OS X, which we had been promised for half a decade, and (b) you can charge money if you give the OS a new number.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER41> So nothing have been said about the support lifecycle so far. I wish they could delay Win7's end of mainstream support until after Win10 releases at least. Yes, this includes bumping extended support until 2021.

<comment><USER42> Why is that important? Windows 7 extended support will provide security patches until january 2020.

<comment><USER41> Yes, this includes bumping extended support until 2021.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER43> So they made Windows 10 what Windows 8 should have been (I have no idea who made the decision to do that dumb metro thing. But it is a nightmare for anyone). And added things that existed in Linux since 1985?

<comment><USER44> This is the Microsoft way. Take Vista and Windows 7. With Vista they tried something new. In Windows 7 they fixed it. In 8 they tried something new... and the cycle continues.

Personally I don't mind the start menu being fullscreen. What really bugs me is how I have 2 incompatible desktops. I have my desktop which I have had since Windows 95. I then have some weird application space and jumping between the two is really unintuitive.

My bigger gripe is the name. Windows 10... It's PHP all over again.

Windows 7. Windows 8. Windows 9? No.. far to logical. Lets call it 10. Perhaps because it is 10 years since 95? I don't know. Still feels wrong.

Like PHP

PHP 3 PHP 4 PHP 5 PHP 7...............

<comment><USER45> 95 -> 98 -> 2000 -> XP -> Vista -> 7 -> 8 -> 10 do you see anything logical in the entire progression. I kind of get it what they were saying from 8 to 10 jump, that we are making a leap with this version over the previous one - because of the whole "universal" unification of devices of various form factors.

Unlike many people here, I do not know the "pulse of average people", so I really do not know how this will play out.

<comment><USER46> Win2000 was more for business and a successor of WinNT.

WinME was the successor to Win98SE and it was absolute trash.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER47> Man that start menu is getting huge and complex. I really didn't miss is in the brief time I spent with Windows 8, but I guess enough people did to make them completely backpedal.

</comment><comment><USER48> Lol! Where is Windows 9?

<comment><USER49> They started making it and it went wrong. Don't mention it to them; it's still a sensitive topic.

</comment></comment><comment><USER50> Should have brand it Windows X 10.0.

</comment><comment><USER51> Reading the comments made me laugh so hard... Was hilarious! Thanks guys and thanks MS!

</comment><comment><USER52> I want it. Looks quite good.

</comment><comment><USER53> Hope os disk space usage will become sensible and winsxs is fixed or gone.

</comment><comment><USER54> Doesn;t seem like anything new at all. More like Tweaks to Windows 8.

</comment><comment><USER55> Such a backpedal from Windows 8's metro. Windows 7 almost made the title bars non ugly and now we're back to Windows 95 style title bars.

<comment><USER56> > _Windows 7 almost made the title bars non ugly and now we 're back to > Windows 95 style title bars._

That's like, your opinion, man.

<comment><USER56> Make up your mind HN. Either you love my comment or you hate it. Let's not have any of this upvote-and-downvote-to-0-karma stuff.

<comment><USER57> HN users don't share one mind, each has their own.

These minds don't always agree.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER58> Still not open source.

</comment><comment><USER11> 2013 April Fools: [http://www.infoworld.com/article/2613504/microsoft- windows/m...](http://www.infoworld.com/article/2613504/microsoft- windows/microsoft-skips--too-good--windows-9--jumps-to-windows-10.html)

<comment><USER59> Nice find! I was actually quite excited about "Windows 9". Now that it's called Windows 10 I get this feeling of political bullshit within Microsoft and some higher ups not knowing what they are doing and demanding it be called Win 10. I just kind of have to laugh at this number jump.

</comment></comment><comment><USER60> Windows 9: The Missing Floppies

or The Missing Eloppies</comment>


Looking for a product or business ideas? Ask yourself these 4 questions - <AUTHOR> https://twitter.com/adambader/status/1288538247543414785 <comment><AUTHOR> Coming up with an idea for your next product or business is easy. Coming up with a great idea, on the other hand, is much harder While I don't think there is a 'framework' or a very reliable way of coming up with and validating ideas, I've used the following filters or questions to come up with my best ideas.</comment>


Ask HN: Would Apple reject this app? - <AUTHOR>

Here is a chat I had in #iphonedev on freenode. I am torn between making an app better for 90% of my users (as confirmed by actual user testing) and following Apple's Human Interface Guidelines to the letter.
What are the chances it will get rejected? See below.

  <EGreg_> hey guys
 <EGreg_> would apple reject my app for using a tab-bar instead of a toolbar
 <EGreg_> http://grab.by/7NnH
 <EGreg_> in my user testing, fully 90% of the users had no idea what the buttons did
 * _rush_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
 <EGreg_> so I am trying to delight my users but am afraid that Apple will reject the app for using a component in a "non standard way"
 <KucukMubasir> EGreg_: have you read HIGs ?
 <EGreg_> yes
 <KucukMubasir> if you don't violate it, why should it be rejected
 <EGreg_> it violates apple's HIG
 <EGreg_> but in real world testing, the version I just linked to: http://grab.by/7NnH   is understood right away byt he users, whereas the version that follows HIG draws blank stares from 90% of users, and of them 50% are unable to complete "select all" without assistance
 <EGreg_> what to do?
 <ilteris> drunkn718: actually if you look at the examples you there's a session object which takes care of the authorization. it's in the samples
 <EGreg_> http://grab.by/7No1
 <KucukMubasir> EGreg_: I have no idea; but if it violoates...
 <KucukMubasir> toolbar buttons don't stay as selected unlike tabbar ones, right?
 <EGreg_> in order to follow HIG I have to make my app LESS understandable by 90% of people
 <EGreg_> as comfirmed empirically in user acceptance testing
 <EGreg_> tabbar buttons don't have to stay selected
 <Codhisattva> the problem isn't tabbar vs toolbar
 <Codhisattva> the problem is select all doesn't belong down there at all
 <EGreg_> where does it belong, then?
 <EGreg_> if not right underneath the checkmarks
 <KucukMubasir> EGreg_: why don't you put it to the top?
 <EGreg_> and where would it appear, exactly?
 <EGreg_> the top is already taken up by the search bar
 <jer> EGreg_, add a segmented control to the toolbar, move one of the buttons (i.e., the right + button) into the segmented control
 <Codhisattva> I doubt select all is even all that useful
 <EGreg_> oh, so now we are talknig about taking out the select all option, all because of the inability of app developers to put captions on their icons
 <Codhisattva> :)
 <EGreg_> codhisattva: sure, why not let the user manually select 100 contacts :)
 <EGreg_> If you are suggesting somehow completely rearranging the interface, taking out the Select All button, taking out the +, and so on, in order to satisfy some misguided insistence that icons MUST NOT have captions, I would ask, why not simply add captions to the icons?
 <BleuLlama> if users are confused by your toolbar icons, you need better toolbar icons.
 <jer> if your tabbar doesn't have captions on its icons, you have a UX problem
 <Codhisattva> EGreg_: if by "confused" you mean "they had to try it to find out what it was" then sure. *Icons* are almost always like that.
 <EGreg_> Once again, the factor that changes users perception *IS* adding captions underneath icons.
 <EGreg_> Codhisattva: users should not have to try something in order to understand its function
 <jer> EGreg_, you are going about this entirely the wrong way
 <Codhisattva> EGreg_: and that is the crux of your problem
 <jer> you're trying to patch your UI in a way that conforms with what your users want given this particular UI
 <Codhisattva> EGreg_: that is *exactly* the wrong frame of mind for a UI developer
 <EGreg_> Codhissatva: a UI developer must pay attention to ACTUAL user testing and ACTUAL user use. Not a crystal ball
 <jer> EGreg_, right, and when something isn't working how you want and you won't get it through review, you try other UIs and resubmit to your team of users
 <Codhisattva> the primary reason why icons have meaning to users is experimentation
 <EGreg_> ACTUAL user testing reveals with a HUGE statistical significance margin, that the problem is lack of captions under icons.
 <EGreg_> So tehrefore I ask, can I put captions under icons?
 <jer> on the tabbar?
 <jer> you have them already
 <EGreg_> I am forced to use a tabbar because the toolbar does not support icons+captions
 <EGreg_> All I am asking is
 <EGreg_> Will apple reject the app for the sole reason that it uses a tabbar when it "should have" used a toolbar (and thus made 90% of users confused)
 <EGreg_> That seems preposterousto me and I am just wondering whether apple would do it
 <Codhisattva> EGreg_: let us know how that works out
 <EGreg_> I'm asking YOU
 <BleuLlama> regardless, users (and apple) have an expectation that a (Tab bar|other element) does one thing and your app ueses it dfferently, then it causes issues.
 <BleuLlama> apple has defined certain elements to be used in certain ways.  past that, it's your job to use visual cues as to what the user can do.  If it's unclear, then you need different visual cues (icons, eg)
 <EGreg_> I presume it is "Apple is King and we cannot use empirical reality to serve as a basis for our decisions. If empirical reality says that an interface change will hurt the experience for 90% of users, we must IGNORE it because Apple's HG is sacred."
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 <BleuLlama> EGreg_: pretty much
 <jer> LOL
 <jer> you're funny
 <EGreg_> crap, that's what I thought :(
 <BleuLlama> Apple defined it, we go along with it.  If you have issues, submit a radar to apple, and they might change it
 <EGreg_> radar?
 <BleuLlama> the joys of closed platform development, and agreeing to their terms when joining.
 <BleuLlama> radar.  bug/issue report, feature requests, etc.
 <EGreg_> I just don't understand this particular policy of not putting captions underneath icons
 <EGreg_> no matter how clear an icon is, it is not clear to a first time user
 <EGreg_> imagine if all your macos menus were icons :)
 <EGreg_> and you had to just "try them out" to know what they did!!
 <BleuLlama> i'd love it if they were.
 <jer> i'd prefer if they were
 <jer> xcode's menu takes up a ton of screen real estate
 * EGreg_ now knows what is meant by apple minions
 <EGreg_> lol
 <jer> of course, tbh i still to this day prefer the NeXTSTEP app menus, vertical not horizontal
 <EGreg_> sure, you should have the OPTION of removing the captions
 <BleuLlama> apple has good designers, they'd come up with good icons that describe what they did well.
 <BleuLlama> and if not, i'd read the info/readme/help and know
 <EGreg_> bleullama: okay but I am trying to draw attention to the actual problem.
 <EGreg_> No matter what icon is used for "select all", it is not clear unless it says "select all"
 <EGreg_> This has been VERIFIED. By actual TESTS.
 <EGreg_> We tried a circle with a checkmark, a square witha  checkmark, a checkmark
 <wiliz__> EGreg_: what does this screen do? sends email/sms to all selected contacts?
 <EGreg_> argh this is just so frustrating. For apple to reject my app because it implements an interface change that helps most users (not in their imagination) go from WTF to OH COOL
 <EGreg_> wiliz__ YEP easy to understand right? :)
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 <EGreg_> even though there are only 2 fake contacts on it
 <jer> EGreg_, so plead your case to apple, file a radar, and cross your fingers and toes
 <EGreg_> what's "filing a radar"?
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 <wiliz__> EGreg_: why not first create the email and then select the contacts? that is how mail app works
 <EGreg_> jer: let me also point out that there are dozens of more horrible non standard apps in the apple store. I doubt they would reject this actually
 <BleuLlama> EGreg_: check out the photos app. it lets you select multiple items.  Mail.app does multiple item selection as well.
 <jer> EGreg_, if there were only dozens i'd be surprised
 <EGreg_> wiliz__ because apple does not let any such functionality be developed by 3rd party apps
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 <EGreg_> jer: so then what am I worried about
 <EGreg_> 99% of this app is HIG compliant
 <EGreg_> i'm just worried about the 1% :) most apps have like 20% lol
 <EGreg_> http://www.lehigh.edu/~sol0/TabBarGradient.jpg
 <BleuLlama> EGreg_: try this. move that tab bar to the top. and resubmit.
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 <BleuLlama> er. that "Tab bar"
 <BleuLlama> since it's not really used as a tab bar
 <BleuLlama> ;)
 <BleuLlama> yes, screen placement is important.
 <EGreg_> hmm interesting ide moving it to the top
 <EGreg_> it goes against the actual use of the app though (select users, then do something)
 <wiliz__> EGreg_: i don't know, as a list? i just got the impression that "send the selected items as an email/sms"
 <BleuLlama> users expect controls for the current view to be at the top
 <EGreg_> but I like it
 <BleuLlama> and different view selectors at the bottom
 <EGreg_> nice idea
 <EGreg_> wbleu ios toolbars are always on the bottom
 <EGreg_> eg in photo app
 <jer> ios toolbars are not always on the bottom
 <EGreg_> they aren't?
 <jer> no
 <EGreg_> show me an apple app where they are not
 <jer> photos
 <jer> there's two
 <jer> bottom and top
 <EGreg_> i see no toolbar at top
 <EGreg_> where do you see it
 <EGreg_> the top one is a navigation bar
 <BleuLlama> music playback now playing has a tool bar thing that appears under the nav bar
 <EGreg_> jer: the toolbars are always on the bottom in apple apps, agree?
 <jer> EGreg_, do not agree
 <EGreg_> You see! Your suggestion violates HIG:
 <EGreg_> Appearance and Behavior
 <EGreg_> On iPhone, a toolbar always appears at the bottom edge of a screen or view, but on iPad it can also appear at the top edge.
 <BleuLlama> guess i'm on igonre now.
 <EGreg_> See what I mean? Slavishly sticking to the HIG we are probably all violating it.
 * BleuLlama is off to do something else.
 <EGreg_> bluellama no I hear you :)
 <jer> EGreg_, open up photos, pick a photo, any photo. tap on it once. you see all the 5 icons at the bottom, that's on a toolbar, and at the top you see another toolbar
 <EGreg_> I am just a little frustrated because I am trying to keep close to the HIG and everyone's acting so high and mighty "NO, Don't put readable captions on icons!" and then it turns out EVERYONE is violating the HIG in some other way :)
 <EGreg_> jer: Appearance and Behavior
 <EGreg_> On iPhone, a toolbar always appears at the bottom edge of a screen or view, but on iPad it can also appear at the top edge.
 <EGreg_> on the top is a NAVIGATION bar, not a toolbar
 <esses> bye
 <BleuLlama> i don't put toolbars at the top. just suggested it as a way to sneak your misused tab bar in as a toolbar
 <jer> EGreg_, nonsense... i have one iphone app with only one toolbar, it lives at the top because i pop an ad up from the bottom and it looks better this way
 <jer> it's on the store
 <EGreg_> well then you have violated HIG blatantly and got in the store :)
 <EGreg_> which is cool by me
 <jer> so what?
 <EGreg_> EXACTLY! So what!
 <jer> the HIG does not prohibit placing a toolbar at the top
 <jer> read it
 <jer> =]
 <BleuLlama> apple is MUCH more concerned about misuing a widget with expected behavior than placement of that widget.
 <jer> BleuLlama, right
 <nissefant> Example a scrollbar that is 70% a scrollbar
 <EGreg_> I just quoted to you how it prohibits it:
 <EGreg_> Appearance and Behavior
 <EGreg_> On iPhone, a toolbar always appears at the bottom edge of a screen or view, but on iPad it can also appear at the top edge.
 <EGreg_> three times
 <jer> i'm not seeing "Apperance and Behaviour" here: http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/userexperience/conceptual/mobilehig/Introduction/Introduction.html
 <jer> so link me to the subitem
 Anyway we go round and round but no one really knows anything about Apple's process. My guess is, with all the other bad apps, I should be fine with a toolbar that has CAPTIONS under the icons, right? <comment><USER2> I'm an iPhone developer as well and I know exactly where you're coming from. Unfortunately, Apple should and probably will reject your app as such.

Unfortunately Apple's standpoint is that the tabbar is a universally understood functionality that switches views.

Personally I think that if you subclass the tabbar and make your own visual style, and color icons, you'll have the same (if not better) understandability, a better aesthetic, and Apple will not reject the subclass.</comment>


Seven Ways Machine Learning Fails - <AUTHOR> https://retina.ai/blog/7-ways-machine-learning-projects-fail/ <comment><USER2> Maybe my monitor is misconfigured but that font is so thin it doesn't render well.</comment>


'Dord': A Ghost Word - <AUTHOR> https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/dord-a-ghost-word <comment><USER3> The cards are more interesting to me than the word, which I originally thought was going to be some kind of copyright-protecting deliberate mistake.

The cards remind me of Jira tickets, with stamps and names as a kind of audit log of work associated with the ticket. I find myself curious about the information architecture and paper processes that companies built around such tickets going to and fro.

Such architectures probably have fairly close analogues in distributed systems, and there may be a thing or two to learn from how more innovative and efficient organizations structured their paper pushing.

<comment><USER4> Speaking of that, I need to find time one of these days to research what the hell "a memo" is. I understand it was a piece of paper of sorts, used in a way similar to how e-mails are used today, but I don't understand how they were delivered to people, what was the equivalent of MTA there. I know how to use the word in writing ("I didn't get the memo"), but not much more than that.

<comment><USER5> I'm a millennial (late thirties), but I've worked in offices where there's an internal mail system in which you write someone's name on an envelope and then when it gets delivered, the name is scratched off to make it available for reuse for the next internal mailing.

<comment><USER6> Similar age and experience. Office keys, property tags, t-shirts or other swag, etc. arrive in those campus mail envelopes with the little string-and- knob closure and about 50 places for addressees on them.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> A 386 assembler I used in the late 80s (when the 386 was still new) consistently referred to 32-bit quantities in its documentation and error messages as a "dord", so that's what came to mind when I read this article. I assume that was also either because of a "propagating typo" from "dword" (this was software from Eastern Europe, where English wasn't all that common), or because it seemed more convenient to have "byte", "word", and "dord" all be the same number of characters.

</comment><comment><USER8> In 1995, Polish Scientific Publishers PWN, a long-time publisher of dictionaries, sued Kurpisz, a new publishing house, for plagiarizing their large dictionary of Polish. The case was closed in favor of PWN in 2005, hitting the Supreme Court along the way.

Among the evidence against Kurpisz was their entry on the nonce word "amikus" (meaning "friend"), which they illustrated with the quotation "spijał się ze swoimi amikusami" (he was getting drunk with his friends) but could not tell the court where they had gotten the quotation from. Nowadays, with libraries digitizing every flimsy old book, they would find the source easily.

</comment><comment><USER9> The urgency in that correction slip is amusing (Imperative! Urgent! A ghost word!), considering how inconsequential of a mistake it is.

What's the absolute worst case caused by a ghost word like dord - <USER2> accidentally uses it in a paper?

<comment><USER10> _The urgency in that correction slip is amusing (Imperative! Urgent! A ghost word!), considering how inconsequential of a mistake it is._

For some people everything is urgent. Everything.

It's part of the reason that web pages because so unusable. Every single lower middle manager thinks their change is the most important thing in the world.

<comment><USER11> Perhaps wider events in the period 1940-7 pushed this urgent, imperative issue further down the priority list than might otherwise have been the case.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> I thought for a moment this might be like a trap street.

<comment><USER13> There are in fact such words, e.g. "esquivalence": [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Oxford_American_Dictionary...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Oxford_American_Dictionary#Fictitious_entry)

<comment><USER14> I don't know how that can work in practice. If it's in a dictionary, it might get used and then... it should be in other dictionaries. Do they cycle them in and out?

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER15> I thought it was going to be about the musical instrument- [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dord_(instrument)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dord_\(instrument\)), somebody should let Merriam-Webster know :)

<comment> happy-go-lucky The wind instrument is also usually seen in South India :)

[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kombu_(instrument)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kombu_\(instrument\))

</comment></comment><comment><USER16> Reading this, I realised the fnords are everywhere, once you know how[0] to look for them.

0: [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22fn+or+d%22](https://www.google.com/search?q=%22fn+or+d%22)

<comment><USER17> Fnord! Dillinger says hello

</comment></comment><comment><USER18> This really stopped and made me consider the amount of work that goes into making dictionaries, especially before computers, and the completely mind numbing and awful job it must be to be a dictionary editor. Then again, I'm sure some people out there probably love it but, I just imagined for a moment having to be the person going through those and adding them to the dictionary and honestly, it wasn't a happy thought.

Anyone who did that, or still does, and anyone who enjoys doing that kind of work, I just say props to you guys. People like you work on those little details that makes the world interesting and do the things that get unappreciated but used by everybody. Just wanted to say thanks to all the dictionary editors and people doing work like that. I'm sure you guys don't get appreciated as much as you should.

<comment><USER19> [https://www.ourcivilisation.com/smartboard/shop/johnsons/pat...](https://www.ourcivilisation.com/smartboard/shop/johnsons/patron.htm)

" Seven years, my lord, have now passed, since I waited in your outward rooms, or was repulsed from your door; during which time I have been pushing on my work through difficulties, of which it is useless to complain, and have brought it, at last, to the verge of publication, without one act of assistance (1), one word of encouragement, or one smile of favour. Such treatment I did not expect, for I never had a patron before."

<comment><USER20> Gee, that version (which wikipedia also links to) is very mangled. "Is not a patrons my lord" ?!

The letter concludes with:

Is not a Patron, my Lord, one who looks with unconcern on a man struggling for life in the water, and when he has reached ground, encumbers him with help? The notice which you have been pleased to take of my labours, had it been early, had been kind; but it has been delayed till I am indifferent, and cannot enjoy it; till I am solitary, and cannot impart it; till I am known, and do not want it. I hope it is no very cynical asperity not to confess obligations where no benefit has been received, or to be unwilling that the public should consider me as owing that to a Patron, which Providence has enabled me to do for myself.

Having carried on my work thus far, with so little obligations to any favourer of learning, I shall not be disappointed though I shall conclude it, if less be possible, with less; for I have been long wakened from that dream of hope, in which I once boasted myself with so much exultation,

My Lord,

Your lordship's most humble,

Most obedient servant,

SAMUEL JOHNSON.

[https://archive.org/details/beautiessamuelj00keargoog/page/n...](https://archive.org/details/beautiessamuelj00keargoog/page/n64/mode/2up)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER21> I wonder why they didn't just adopt it as a fictitious entry?

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictitious_entry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictitious_entry)

</comment><comment><USER22> Dord is a perfectly cromulent word.

<comment><USER23> It must be, it's in the Merriam-Webster dictionary on my bookshelf.

</comment></comment><comment><USER24> There are 'ghost words' which have become established. E.g. _derring-do_:

"The two words _durring_, _dorryng_, _daring_, verbal noun from _durran_, _dorren_ "to dare" v.1, and _don_, _do_, present infinitive of "do" v., literally "daring to do", which, by a chain of misunderstandings and errors, have come to be treated as a kind of substantive combination, taken to mean, Daring action or feats, 'desperate courage'.

The words come incidentally in their ordinary sense and construction followed by the object 'that' (= what, that which) in Chaucer's Troylus; whence, in an imitative passage by Lydgate, in an absolute construction more liable to misunderstanding; Lydgate's _dorryng do_ was _misprinted_ in the 16th cent. editions (1513 and 1555) _derrynge do_, in which form it was picked up by Spenser and misconstrued as a substantive phrase, explained in the Glossary to the Sheph. Cal. as 'manhood and chevalrie'. Modern romantic writers, led by Sir W. Scott, have taken it from Spenser, printed it _derring-do_, and accentuated the erroneous use."

(from the OED)

</comment><comment> phoe-krk The article mentions the abbreviation ULEC, but it does not define it. Does anyone know what it means?

<comment><USER25> Right above its first usage: Universal Lexicographer's Ethical Code

<comment> phoe-krk Thanks, I missed it in the text.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER26> I remember learning this years ago from a video which turns out to also be made by Merriam Webster:

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3sDiH3FhnY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3sDiH3FhnY)

</comment><comment><USER27> You could say they completely increased the dord of the whole situation for quite a few years. Ha! Take that! Now we just need a few hundred people to also use it and it slowly becomes real. The circle becomes complete.

</comment><comment><USER28> [https://dord-orbit.tumblr.com/](https://dord-orbit.tumblr.com/)

</comment><comment><USER29> I wanna be a dord

</comment><comment><USER30> I am much a dord</comment>


The Apps Using Social Credit in China - <AUTHOR> https://technode.com/2019/10/15/the-apps-using-social-credit-in-china/ <comment><USER2> This is an interesting article, but you should've linked to the original at [http://ub.triviumchina.com/2019/10/long-read-the-apps-of- chi...](http://ub.triviumchina.com/2019/10/long-read-the-apps-of-chinas- social-credit-system/)</comment>


Dash – A Governance and Privacy Coin - <AUTHOR> https://shitcoin.com/dash-a-governance-and-privacy-coin-thats-surprisingly-easy-to-use-11160e565ce0 <comment><USER2> Dash is just another scam.

Within 8 hours over 1.5 million coins were mined with a very low difficulty due to a "bug".

The governance system requires you to bind up a sizeable amount of coins in master nodes which allows you to vote (and they also continue to earn more coins!). It's easy to centrally control the governance using the instamine. A lot of coins is spent on marketing luring in new users with promising buzzwords (privacy, instant transactions, scaling, governance...). This causes an inflated market cap as a lot of coins are locked into master nodes and are not used to trade or transacted with. It is only interesting if you find ponzi schemes interesting.

[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0](https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0)

If you think that's bad then consider that the creator holds a master key which can force all nodes to reprocess all blocks in the last 24 hours. Yes you read that right.

[https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7293tw/just...](https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7293tw/just_a_reminder_that_dashs_strategy_advisor_evan/)

[https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/master/src/spork.cpp#L7...](https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/master/src/spork.cpp#L76)

</comment><comment><USER3> Dash is not a privacy coin, it's neither the project focus nor the reality. The only coins that are meaningful with regard to privacy are Monero and Zcash. See [https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/wiki/cryptocurrency](https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/wiki/cryptocurrency) for more background.

<comment><USER4> I'd also venture to say Verge qualifies as a legit privacy focused coin.

<comment><USER5> verge offers nothing interesting in terms of privacy or features. its just a boring clone with a forced TOR connection.

the marketing is great though!

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> Did the author just spend $300,000 USD to become a master node and write the review!? That's a dedicated blogger!

<comment><AUTHOR> I am the author. Yes, it was more like $330,000. The price has since gone down.

<comment><USER7> So how much does your masternode make from block rewards ?

<comment><AUTHOR> I didn't look into that. I've been told it's around 8% annualized

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER8> The first review by the same author was amazing but since then things have fallen off a bit.

Was the privacy aspect even tested? The only line I could find was - " I haven't read much about instant/private send". So was the PrivateSend feature even tested?

Additionally, what does this imply?

"Masternodes are used for instant/private transactions and governance"

Does it mean only masternodes can use the privacy focused feature?

An additional note, can someone please explain me what is so novel about the governance policy other than instead of asking votes from the entire network (ie bitcoin), the votes are focused only in hands of people with enough coin?

<comment><USER2> > Does it mean only masternodes can use the privacy focused feature?

No, it means the masternodes provide privacy by mixing your coins. This has privacy implications.

> An additional note, can someone please explain me what is so novel about the > governance policy other than instead of asking votes from the entire network > (ie bitcoin), the votes are focused only in hands of people with enough > coin?

That's the novelty. No it's not particularly useful.

<comment><USER9> Indeed, and the privacy implications of centralized mixers are doubleplus ungood.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> Does anyone else find the gifs that are inserted after every other paragraph obnoxious?

<comment><AUTHOR> Author here. Try this: document.querySelectorAll('img[src$="gif"]').forEach(_ => _.parentNode.parentNode.remove())

<comment><USER11> Doesn't really work because the gifs lazy-load as you scroll down. So you'd either have to run it repeatedly, or scroll through the whole post first and then do it.

<comment><AUTHOR> It's hard to know if there's a lot of people wanting text only or if they're just very vocal. Either way I'll publish my next review in two versions; one with memes and one without. I appreciate you taking the time to tell me

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12>
      Domain name: A+
      Content: A
      Everything else: C-

</comment><comment><USER13> That is quite the domain name.

</comment><comment><USER7> It seems like there needs to be a concluding gif: "shit or not?" (like how rotten tomatoes has fresh/rotten.. i'm not sure what "fresh" means in this context..)

<comment><AUTHOR> I agree that would be funny, but it's too hard to judge. Something can look great today and suck in five years or the other way around.

</comment></comment><comment><USER14> Reasonable post, horrible usage of gifs.

<comment><AUTHOR> You're not the first person to tell me this. I'll keep it in mind for my next review. Thanks!</comment></comment>


The Social Graph Is Neither (2011) - <AUTHOR> https://blog.pinboard.in/2011/11/the_social_graph_is_neither/ <comment><USER2> Discussed at the time: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3213599](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3213599)</comment>


Nokia files another lawsuit against Apple - <AUTHOR> http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1413195

<comment><USER2> It seems didn't want people to read, or understand the "FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS" part... Putting everything in one big block of text helped a lot, I guess.

As much as I like Nokia's products, I'm usually disappointed in how they communicate (or frequently don't) with customers.

</comment><comment><USER3> Dead.

<comment><USER4> LOL even <http://www.nokia.com/> is dead... wonder what happened?

EDIT: Seems they are in the process of fixing it... still kinda slow...</comment></comment>


Parameterized Roles with MooseX::Declare (Perl5) - <AUTHOR> http://perldition.org/articles/Parameterized Roles with MooseX::Declare.pod <comment><AUTHOR> For related HN post see: <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=605043></comment>


How to Write a Spelling Corrector - <AUTHOR> http://norvig.com/spell-correct.html <comment><USER2> Some previous discussions,

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16918757](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16918757)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12453535](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12453535)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8749518](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8749518)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7487341](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7487341)

</comment><comment><USER3> > We need a lot of data to do this well.

Yup. And once you've got a sufficiently large tagged error corpus, spelling correction will be as simple as a lookup: almost all misspellings (in terms of frequency) will be present in the corpus, and you can drop the (rather simplistic) algorithmic part.

<comment><USER4> But what about "they're", "there", and "their"? And other homonyms people frequently misspell?</comment></comment>


NIST Tests Forensic Methods for Getting Data from Damaged Mobile Phones - <AUTHOR> https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2020/01/nist-tests-forensic-methods-getting-data-damaged-mobile-phones <comment><USER2> It might be fun to make a youtube video attempting to get data using the methods they describe, then finding which methods truly destroy the data. Is Mythbusters still around?</comment>


Just open sourced an Android input method I worked for a few weeks... - <AUTHOR> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d1Frz6l4OU

<comment><AUTHOR> I decided to stop working on it because I want to spend more time on another project. Feel free to do whatever you like with it. Contact me or reply below if you have any questions.

<comment><USER2> May I suggest adding where you left off/what needs to be done in the readme or on a wiki page in the github project?

<comment><AUTHOR> Yes, I will work on that today.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER3> This is what the Japanese input-method is like on the iPhone. For each consonant there is a press, up, down, left or right swipe to produce a kana. It's a pretty interesting method, and you learn how to type faster with it pretty fast. Worth checking out!

<comment><USER4> There's an Android app, called Simeji, that's the same thing. Each button is one of the groups (a, ka, sa, etc.) and then you swipe in each direction for a given sound. I think it's -a if you just touch, -i to the left, -u up, -e right and -o down.

</comment></comment><comment><USER5> Ignore the YouTube comments. That's not a place where people can appreciate things... and not a place where the word "self-respect" has any meaning.

<comment><AUTHOR> Haha, yes, I will try to ignore them. Actually, the comments have been relatively nice so far.

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> That looks like a very interesting input method -- thanks for publishing it! One question though: how do I get that onto my Android -- do I need to include it into the OS, recompile everything and flash the device, or can i install it in an existing Android?

<comment><USER7> This is one of the neat things about Android: the keyboard is just another application. All you need is the apk file to try this keyboard or any other one - there are even some in the Market like ShapeWriter.

</comment></comment><comment><USER8> This reminds me of an input method I've seen on occasion for GP2x apps.

</comment><comment><USER9> Reminds me of iPhone's Japanese "Ten Key" Keyboard.

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVy1p0v0Pow>

</comment><comment><USER10> This still requires tapping, unlike Swype and the other alternative keyboards which allow for continuous motion within a word.

</comment><comment><USER11> i think this input method is pretty nice... lacks polish though. A todo of missing featyres would be appreciated.. i can see a few things right off the bat: no caps lock and need to change the char display when caps is on. I hope i can make time to contribute.. this is a novel method that deserves further development.

</comment><comment><USER12> That's a very awesome application. I have huge fingers and an Android phone, so I will have to try it out.</comment>


Why a Brit chose to start a business in Berlin - <AUTHOR> https://medium.com/@alicelthwaite/why-a-brit-chose-to-start-a-business-in-berlin-b1d395854dee#.hj341bb6z <comment><USER2> I am curious there is no mention of German fluency (or lack of). So I don't know what is the underlying assumption: A. Everyone is speaking English so it is a non issue. B. I am fluent in German so it is a non issue.

<comment><AUTHOR> It's everyone speaks English so it's a non-issue! I'm not fluent in German. Berlin is extremely welcoming to all internationals in that regard.</comment></comment>