Money Isn't Everything - <AUTHOR> http://pathdependent.com/2009/11/11/money_isnt_everything/

<comment><AUTHOR> This was mostly posted in hopes of feedback. Posting at 5 was probably a dumb move.

<comment><USER2> On your past life as a spammer: Wow, very interesting. How much is a 'lot'? :)

On your personal struggle: I feel deep sympathy for you, and I hope something will be found out soon that can help you.

On your need to solve the money problem once and for all: How much money do you need to make to solve the money problem? What kind of dollar amount would let you sit quietly in your room?

On your company idea: If you are already giving up before you've made much progress, is this the really right idea to work on right now? If this is something you MUST do, in spite of the drudgery, what is the minimum you can do so you can move on quickly?

<comment><AUTHOR> I'm not comfortable disclosing that. I'll only say it is a lot by both my standards when I was a freshman in high school and now where it exceeds my starting year salary offers.

Thanks.

Money wise, not much I suppose. I am currently budgeting myself 2k a month. I can live very light. However, given passed health issues, I am unwilling to spend savings passed a certain point. The amount I can risk is much lower than the amount I want to risk.

On the company idea, I am only giving up the idea of running it as a for- profit enterprise. I have a whole lot of ideas on fund-raising (not yet posted on my site) that I would like to test out of sheer intellectual curiosity. Fundify allows me to do that. If my ideas prove correct, I think the project, or at least the idea, will be self-sustaining.

Thanks for your feedback.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER3> "This was written by a guy who enjoys Ayn Rand." ;-)</comment>


Show HN: Taggun – Got a project that needs OCR and data extraction? We can help - <AUTHOR> https://www.taggun.io/ <comment><USER2> We've been dying to find a template-based zonal OCR API-- something akin to a hosted ABBYY FlexiCapture Engine. We deal in high speed extraction but are low volume, and that leaves us with very few options. We would happily pay through the nose on a page-by-page basis (think $10+ per page). Nobody (specifically ABBYY and Nuance) has a licensing model that works for us, and going with a sort of managed BPO provider like Captricity or CloudFactory is too slow.

<comment><AUTHOR> It sounds like we can make this work! I hear the same frustration too in the OCR industry. Unless, you are a big enterprise with lots of money in the pocket, ABBYY pricing model just simply doesn't work. ABBYY is the expensive corporate limo service. And I want Taggun to be like Uber to disrupt the market of OCR.

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> You should see if you can work out something to help the folks at [http://www.informationwanted.org/](http://www.informationwanted.org/) if they don't already have OCR and human extraction going on.

<comment><AUTHOR> Definitely. A pre human transcription of archives or articles for community is under my radar. Let me see what I can do...</comment></comment>


GrowSumo (YC S15) Helps Businesses Grow Sales Through Partner Programs - <AUTHOR> http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/31/growsumo-launch/

<comment><USER2> Congrats on the launch ya'll! We're in the process of implementing GrowSumo right now :)

<comment><USER3> Thanks Matt!

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> Hi everyone! I'm one of the founders of GrowSumo and would be happy to answer any questions you might have about starting or joining a partner program. We're excited to launch, and to hear what you think! :)

</comment><comment><USER4> Great team and company. If you have partners, you NEED GrowSumo!

</comment><comment><USER5> Looks awesome guys! Keep up the great work :)</comment>


Ask HN: Which SSL certificate - <AUTHOR>

I want to secure a single site that redirects from bare domain to 'www' subdomain. I'm assuming I need a SSL certificate with 2 names: example.com and www.example.com.<p>What CA and specific certificate would you recommend? The site does not deal with any payment or login data. So something cheep that is well supported in browsers would be preferable. <comment><USER2> RapidSSL and PositiveSSL should be fine (personal preference is buying through Namecheap) and if you buy the www.example.com cert it will support example.com as well.

You may want to confirm that last bit with wherever you buy the cert-- Namecheap does this but I'm not sure if its universal.

<comment><AUTHOR> Thanks. I'd actually prefer to by through Namecheap as well. I saw RapidSSL and PositiveSSL certs, but I thought they are not suitable if I want both w/ and w/o 'www' subdomain.

So if I buy RapidSSL or PositiveSSL through Namecheap for www.example.com, they will automatically come with example.com in SAN?

Also, why do they have "You also need to have a dedicated IP address" in the requirements? Is this used somewhere in the validation process? I'm asking because the website runs on top of AWS S3, so I do not have dedicated IPs.

<comment><USER3> > Also, why do they have "You also need to have a dedicated IP address" in the > requirements?

Because a web server that hosts multiple secure websites needs a way to know which of the certificates to use to encrypt a new incoming connection. The way we disambiguate that is to give each website a different IP address. In short, it's about the way SSL works, not anything to do with validation.

<comment><AUTHOR> Thanks for the explanation. To my understanding, that's only necessary when I actually use the certificate, not as the part of certificate validation. I assumed the validation would happen with me setting some DNS record with particular value they can validate or something similar.</comment></comment></comment></comment>


Modus Operandi: Poses as an investor to be wined and dined, then disappears - <AUTHOR> http://cecileortlieb.com <comment><USER2> I have extensive experience prosecuting cases like this and would be happy to assist the OP. I ask that he fly me to New York City at his earliest convenience (after wiring me a good-faith deposit) so that we may discuss this in person.

</comment><comment><USER3> I'm rather confused why not contact a lawyer and pursue legal action?

world-glance.com screams caution since there is so much missing, team info, personal names & bios, contact, address, etc. and it was only registered in Feb 2015 and has whois privacy protection

[http://whois.domaintools.com/world- glance.com](http://whois.domaintools.com/world-glance.com)

privacy protection is not normally an issue but when a COMPANY (not personal!) webpage has no personal details, address, phone, etc. it is a huge redflag

don't mean to criticize a victim of fraud but no reputable VC or investor would be asking for money for petty expenses like a cab or flight, etc.

The whole point of this is that they are the ones that are supposed to have money and they may or may not give it to you.

Not the other way around :/

But I get it, she was using the 'boiling frog' strategy

<comment><USER4> Absolutely, the owner of this website could be sued for slander. If everything in this story is true then just sue Cecile because she obviously committed fraud, the case should be a slam dunk. Then expose her once she has been sentenced to prison.

edit:

Cecile's website is a joke :

[http://world-glance.com/](http://world-glance.com/)

Does it look like a serious VC to anybody? there is absolutely no information whatsoever. Remember the legend about about nigerian scammers? they make it so obvious it is a scam to screen people, that website feels a bit like that.

<comment><USER5> Between:

a) absolutely horrible, meaningless copy.

b) A very poorly designed website.

c) a very weird photo of gazelle which appears to have been taken from aliexpress.com ([http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Animal- Gazelle-2-Poster-3-Siz...](http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Animal- Gazelle-2-Poster-3-Sizes-Silk-Fabric-Canvas-Poster-Print/32366799006.html))

d) a host shared by another 18,000 websites (according to Bing)

This company genuinely does not look real. I understand that the writer would be extremely excited by the prospect of a $4m investment, but I also feel like he should have done a little more due diligence. Based on what I see, I can't imagine genuinely expecting to receive $4m from this firm...

<comment><USER6> Hi there -- please share how one can find out how many websites are sharing a host via Bing.

Thanks!

<comment><USER7> Just use DNSstuff. Her site is simply a branded Wordpress.com account.

[http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools#dnsReport|type=domain&&value=c...](http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools#dnsReport|type=domain&&value=cecileortlieb.com)

<comment><USER5> Two things. First, cecileortlieb.com is not actually Cecile's website - it is the website that hosted that article which claims that she is a scammer.

Cecile claims to be with world-glance.com. He site would be here:

[http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools#dnsReport|type=domain&&value=w...](http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools#dnsReport|type=domain&&value=world- glance.com)

Second, dnsstuff is great - I haven't used it before, but I have it bookmarked now.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER8> Having read through this, it seems less like she wanted to be wined and dined (given how the "victim" flew to London), and more that she just wanted to seem important. A lot of people want to be VCs; and it turns out you can get most of the VC experience without having money if you just never invest. (On the flip side, a lot of people want to be entrepreneurs but have no product.)

Having been through bad experiences with wannabe investors in the past, I made a rule that I would only ever deal with investors that were well-known or were heavily vouched for by someone I knew that had been invested in by them.

</comment><comment><USER9> >Though the most successful founders are usually good people, they tend to have a piratical gleam in their eye. They're not Goody Two-Shoes type good. Morally, they care about getting the big questions right, but not about observing proprieties. That's why I'd use the word naughty rather than evil. They delight in breaking rules, but not rules that matter.

Sounds like a perfect YC founder to me.

[http://www.paulgraham.com/founders.html](http://www.paulgraham.com/founders.html)

</comment><comment><USER10> I really feel sorry for the guy, but even just a few simple due diligence checks would have shown the company has no money even the accounts are overdue: [http://companycheck.co.uk/company/07335249/WORLD-GLANCE- LIMI...](http://companycheck.co.uk/company/07335249/WORLD-GLANCE-LIMITED) [http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//compdetails](http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//compdetails) On top of that the website screams fake. A limited company should always show company number and have contact details.

</comment><comment><USER11> Scammers prey on people who want things so badly that they blind their instincts. I think the lesson is to not be desperate for investment and assume an equal standing of both parties (i.e. the investor is not some superior deity). Also an appropriate due diligence throughout the whole process.

</comment><comment><USER12> My impression is that much of top-tier financing is riddled with people like her, maybe not as unstable, but just as ruthless and without any empathic regards at all. The only difference is the numbers and the complexity of the scams committed. Spiderwebs of companies, incomprehensible systems and networks of hedge-funds, company-carousels, lobbyism, and straight up corruption. Just look at the scandals of the last ten years.

The fact that webpages like this are not made about them and mostly about low- level charlatans, is because of the legal repercussions.

</comment><comment><USER13> maybe she is a performance artist making a movie about how out of touch with reality startup executives are.

</comment><comment><USER14> Cecile's text messages are horribly sloppy regarding spelling and grammar, I'd never trust a person like that.

</comment><comment><USER15> It's the little things, but I read

> Hindsight is 2020

as "Hindsight is two thousand twenty"

I would invite the writers to use '20-20'.

<comment><USER16> The expression comes from a measurement of visual acuity, the correct notation would be 20/20.

<comment><USER15> Or that. Really, anything else than 2020.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER17> What did the police say when you filed a report?

</comment><comment><USER18> Brian Lefevre

</comment><comment><USER19> The apartment is so hipster/yapster (bikes on the wall, the kitchen design), it is actually tacky.

</comment><comment><USER20> This post is worse than Cecile's actions.

She's obviously not right in the head, you are basically saying "Watch out for crazy people", and she has to be the scapegoat for your messaging.

This is super cruel and merciless.

<comment><USER21> "This is super cruel and merciless." srsly, dude? have we lost all perspective?</comment></comment>


Ebay is ripe for start-up competition - <AUTHOR> http://www.michaelalanmiller.com/?p=496

<comment><USER2> The main problem with an eBay type startup would be the vast number of scammers who would immediately be able to deploy their scams to the new site.

eBay and PayPal have a vast ongoing fight with scammers, phishers, fraudsters, which surely sours the pot for any competitors.

That said, I'd love to see a competitor to eBay.</comment>


Java and Practicality - <AUTHOR> http://blog.tmorris.net/java-and-practicality/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter <comment><USER2> You can't "shut down" a discussion on ongoing behavior(in this case, people using Java as their primary language technology) that easily.</comment>


AMD RDNA 1.0 Instruction Set Architecture - <AUTHOR> https://gpuopen.com/compute-product/amd-rdna-1-0-instruction-set-architecture/ <comment><AUTHOR> There are a lot of changes from Vega: Warp32 to match NVidia (although Warp64 is still supported for backwards compatibility). It seems like Warp64 has some nifty tricks in it still, so anyone writing for Vega can still rest assured that you'll get benefits in RDNA / Navi.

The L0 / L1 / L2 cache structure looks complicated. The "s_waitcnt" instruction can now wait for loads vs stores, which is kinda nifty. I'm wondering if that's how memory barriers are supposed to be handled now (Vega compiles into an L1 cache flush. But that buffer_wbinv instruction no longer exists in RDNA).

The main issue is that bpermute / permute will only function across a Warp32. I'm pretty sure this will break my code, but it makes sense because RDNA executes severely differently from Vega.

\-----

DPP has changed. DPP8 is an arbitrary 8-way swizzle, while DPP16 are a very limited 16-way swizzle (designed for "scan" or parallel prefix sum algorithms). I'm curious what the plan is for broadcasting: maybe SGPRs are the faster way of doing things rather than the old DPP32 operations.

EDIT: I guess V_READLANE_B32 and V_WRITELANE_B32 would be better "broadcast" instructions in theory than the old DPP commands.</comment>


Apple profiles customer who saved $70k by using Macs and Basecamp - <AUTHOR> http://productblog.37signals.com/products/2008/03/apple-profiles.html

<comment><USER2> Basecamp is web-based. It works on anything.

From reading the actual Apple profile, it looks like the advantages they're really touting are:

* It's a little easier to use.

* It has video chat (a $20 webcam + mic kit and skype do that)

* Switching made them realize that they could use basecamp instead of expensive windows-based software.

It's cool for 37signals to show it off and everything, but for Apple, it looks like they're stretching their benefits a lot.</comment>


Ask YC: Can you help me pick a good domain name? - <AUTHOR>

I'm just posting this here in case anyone comes up with a brilliant domain name :)
I am launching a small startup this month, called ONE application platform
Essentially it is an application platform like facebook, but for productivity apps like task lists, bug trackers, contact managers, calendar, etc.
My current domain name is: http://unobeta.com - not very exciting <comment><USER2> Most companies which are household brands now ( Google, Facebook, Microsoft) etc. were unknown and did not sound sexy at first. The name becomes glamorous when the company actually has cool products, not the other way around.

So don't sweat, pick something pronounceable and easy to spell.

<comment><AUTHOR> Makes sense, thanks.

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> It's called ONE, it's an application platform. Okay then, so I suggest runonone.com (and don't forget runon1.com).

By the way, I enjoy coming up with domain names, so if any other News.YCer wants help with a name, just email me.

<comment><AUTHOR> that's a nice one, I'll consider that, thanks. :)

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> Perhaps this Random Phonetic Name Generator would help? [http://utilitymill.com/utility/Random_Phonetic_Name_Generato...](http://utilitymill.com/utility/Random_Phonetic_Name_Generator/)

</comment><comment><USER5> You might have to change the platform name to match the url. Note that .ne is Niger. Is o.ne available? I can't read the registration site: <http://www.intnet.ne/>

<comment><USER6> According to the web site if you want to do this you need to call Mr Salaou (72 29 98) or email him: firstname.lastname@example.com. From the other information on the site I get the feeling that the answer is going to be 'no'.

</comment></comment><comment><USER7> Go here: <http://www.thenameinspector.com/10-name-types/>

Choose one of the name types and figure out what you want. Remember, if you're making a calendar product, DO NOT call is icalendar or something like that, choose a name that you can build because your product(s) will change. Believe me, we've made that mistake.

</comment><comment><USER8> Onelyp

<http://onelyp.com> \-- The one and only plaform

Available. 6 letters.

<http://virteal.com/CreativeDomainNames>

</comment><comment><USER9> Unity, oneness, singular, and harmony in Swahili is 'umoja.' I looked to see if it was available, and it was taken, no surprise. However, youmoja.com is not taken.

<comment><AUTHOR> That's kind of nice, just not to crazy about the word umoja. But nice technique to find a good name.

</comment></comment><comment><USER10> I would choose something like 1appp.com (as in "1 APPlication Platform") if I were you. It's sexier. And it's available.

<comment><AUTHOR> nice to type, not sure I'd like to use it everyday.

hard to come up with a name for this.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> How about the Oneders? Like wonders but spelled with a One.

(Sorry that's from some movie, couldn't resist.)

</comment><comment><USER11> Try a clever play on misspelled words.

wonapp wonapt

tough name to find a domain for

<comment><AUTHOR> yep, kinda hard

</comment></comment><comment><USER12> pr0dpr0n.com (available)

<http://wiki.43folders.com/index.php/Productivity_pr0n>

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> Thanks everyone for your help, keep it coming.

</comment><comment><USER13> platformuno.com unoplatform.com theoneplatform.com

all seem to be available

<comment><AUTHOR> yeah I thought about using uno since more is available - though I prefer 'one' a bit more.

</comment></comment><comment><USER14> oneappy.com

</comment><comment><USER15> Why not switch languages --

unplatform.com

(Seems to be expired)

unap.com also might be available.

Or KeanuAP.com, because Neo is The One.</comment>


To the person who stole my phone last night - <AUTHOR> http://joethepeacock.blogspot.com.au/2013/10/to-person-who-stole-my-phone-last-night.html

<comment><USER2> I'm struggling to feel sympathy here:

a) He owns a top-of-the-line phone, yet complains about being poor.

b) He owns a phone that makes it trivially easy maintain backups in the cloud, and yet didn't think that his livelihood was worth backing up.

c) There's no real _point_ to this post, yet it was published and submitted to HN.

d) He attempts to egocentrically link this post to his own humility.

Nobody deserves to have their property stolen, and it sounds like Peacock is in a particularly tight bind, but this is hardly enlightening journalism or something "that good hackers would find interesting".

<comment><USER3> > didn't think that his livelihood was worth backing up

Came here to make this exact point. Not to kick someone who's already down, but for god's sake people: _If you do not do backups, your data is ephemeral._

There's only so many times one can hear sob stories about people losing all their un-backed-up data, especially from people who should know better, before one stops feeling all that sorry. Don't complain to me if you roll the dice and lose.

<comment><USER4> I just flat out don't understand it -- I back up stuff a lot less important than things that provide me income. How hard is it to attach a copy to an email draft when you're done?

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> "Consider it a fair exchange for the perspective you gave me this morning." Not really. If it was for the perspective you wouldn't have written a blog post bragging about how you are such a nice guy. You giving him the phone is self-serving. You are looking for attention.

</comment><comment><USER6> I read this article and hoped to come to the comments finding support and encouragement for someone who was going through a rough time; I found 6 trolls criticizing the author for his choice of words and supposed financial decisions.

There are times to be critical and there are scientific studies that deserve to be nitpicked, but the story of a man learning to forgive despite being taken advantage of during a time of extreme hardship is not one of them.

There's more to life than bits and bytes; there's humanity, which is what we are really all building things for anyway.

<comment><USER7> Eh, emotions are best left to another aggregator, if you're looking for more than bits and bytes, here seems like a bad place to fulfil that need.

<comment><USER6> If participating in a technical discussion requires me to forget humanity, then to hell with all of this, I'm out.

<comment><USER8> Well said.

And that is predicated upon the idea that somehow engaging with bits and bytes can be detached from the emotional, political, cultural, and historical.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> Why do you own the most expensive cell phone there is if you "desperately need money?"

<comment><USER6> Because financial situations change over time?

</comment></comment><comment><USER10> Why can't that phone be bricked the moment it's reported stolen. Unable to connect to any cell tower in at least North America.

Sure, the cops might not track down someone who stole a $600 phone( which is a little absurd), and maybe some people steal them for parts. But most people intend to sell them for use. We can make them useless in the US,Canada, and Western Europe trivially.

<comment><USER4> This would require the carriers to set up such an infrastructure -- and why would they? It would cost them money and they'd lose the revenue of replacement purchases. Also, such a system would be ripe for abuse on multiple fronts. Someone piss you off _(or, more insidiously, are they a political opponent)_? Impersonate them and get their phone blacklisted. This could also potentially kill the secondhand phone market, if carriers decide they're going to brick "obsolete" phones after a couple years.

<comment><USER11> I'm thinking more of some sort of service offered by manufacturers/OS developers. A la Google Device Manager.

If I can remotely wipe my phone, it won't be hard to also brick it, remotely.

Leave the carriers alone, those incompetent jacks

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> Unfortunately, there are more desperate people than cell phones. You should visit India sometime.

</comment><comment><USER13> And, the point of putting this here was ?

</comment><comment><USER7> I don't understand, if he located the theif with Find My Phone, why wasn't law enforcement able to apprehend the perp?

I get the author is venting his frustrations at this. I know the feeling. It's a combination of infuriated and helpless, and that's just from having property that wasn't MINE stolen, let alone my own property. My sympathies there, btw. However I would like to know why the thief wasn't caught.

<comment><USER4> Because law enforcement will tell you that they have better things to do than retrieve your cellphone. Sometimes they'll do it if you hand the perp to them on a silver platter -- it's happened with some phones and bike thefts.</comment></comment>


Elon Musk says full self-driving Tesla tech 'close' - <AUTHOR> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53349313 <comment><USER2> I'm fairly sure he's claimed very similar things before.</comment>


Le.sh renamed to acme.sh - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/Neilpang/acme.sh <comment><AUTHOR> Good luck to all those who had set up an automated job for certificate renewal. This is the old URL: [https://github.com/Neilpang/le.sh/blob/master/README.md](https://github.com/Neilpang/le.sh/blob/master/README.md)</comment>


Outsourced Grading, With Supporters and Critics, Comes to College - <AUTHOR> http://chronicle.com/article/Outsourced-Grading-With/64954/ <comment><USER2> I've always thought that American high schools could outsource grading of probably 95% of assignments to in-school paraprofessionals or work-at-home moms, which would free teachers up for individualized instruction. (Hire cheap gophers to scan papers into a centralized system, your distributed workforce grades them in near-real time, results available in your inbox and online gradebook before the end of the day.)

It is crazy that we have folks with e.g. master's degrees in history marking 90 copies of the same "connect the term with the definition" homework assignment when it could be done by anybody capable of reading. (The cost of having a 40 year old teacher with a master's degree mark that homework assignment is, as a ballpark number, about $150. It could be done by a Midwestern housewife with a master's degree for $20 if you let her work from home, or for $10 if you outsourced it overseas.)

That avoids the larger problem of "Why did we assign that?", of course. (And the unions will, predictably, never go for it.)

</comment><comment><USER3> This is pretty remarkable. We have use MTurk to help develop educational content and have thought about using virtual TAs to help w/research and tutoring, but not for actual grading. To me, that feels a bit like a stretch. However, on the other hand, if you've got qualified people that can do a better job than you can do as a professor, then you may actually be doing your students a service by using this platform.

Educational services are quickly becoming a global market. Quick example. Our CTO was less of a believer in the power of MTurk. We (www.nixty.com) were converting a physics course from MIT. The tests were in PDF form. (a. problems; b. solutions). We wanted them to be in multiple choice form. No one on the team had the capability to create relevant multiple choice responses. We created a HIT on MTurk. A guy from Bangalore signed up for the HIT. He had a Master's in Science and had taught Physics earlier in his career. He banged out the multiple choice responses in a day. We had them cross-checked and they were solid. Pretty cool, right?

</comment><comment><USER4> If I was a student I would be pissed. How can you personalize education without actually reviewing students' assignments? Should students outsource their assignments as well? This angers me more than it should, but I deal with far too many profs on a daily basis who think they are simply too important to deal with students. Just do your fucking job.

<comment><USER5> She's teaching 1,000 students this course every year, so at minimum I'd expect 500 in a single semester. I have no idea if she thinks she's "simply too important to deal with students", but in a class of that size I'd expect no more than two brief bits of semi-casual communication with her (e.g. in the minutes after a lecture).

The real question is why she has a budget for only 7 TAs, "some of whom did not have much experience", in a class which is in part serving as remedial English. At best that's 125 students per TA ... and again I'd expect to be able to get very little communication with whichever one was assigned to me at that sort of ratio.

Something has to give, and if the subject matter really counts, maybe this is one of the less bad choices.

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> If she doesn't want to read it, why should they want to write it?

<comment><USER5> Well, it's implied that she wants her team to read them but they can't do the workload (125 pages per person per semester); perhaps this is more of a budget problem.

Obviously for all the usual reasons she's getting a lot of students who aren't good at reading, and it's not clear to me that they'd be better served by a generic remedial English class instead of having to write more real world stuff in her's.

Also a "you get what you pay for" problem; perhaps we shouldn't expect better from a 2nd tier or lower state schools (e.g. below the University of Texas system (for which I have some affection from a NSF Summer Science Training Program at UT Austin I attended in high school) and I'd guess below the Texas A&M system).</comment></comment>


HDMI 2.1 released: 10K resolution, dynamic HDR, and FreeSync-like game smoothing - <AUTHOR> https://www.pcworld.com/article/3239026/components-graphics/hdmi-21-spec-10k-resolution-dynamic-hdr.html <comment><USER2> FreeSync-like? Why not just FreeSync? I assume it's another way for the HDMI group to charge extra royalty.</comment>


Radical new economic system will emerge from collapse of capitalism - <AUTHOR> https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2014/nov/07/radical-new-economic-system-will-emerge-from-collapse-of-capitalism <comment><USER2> author: On April 1st, 2014 Mr. Rifkin's published his latest book, The Zero Marginal Cost Society: The Internet of Things, the Collaborative Commons, and the Eclipse of Capitalism. In 2011, Jeremy Rifkin published the New York Times bestseller The Third Industrial Revolution</comment>


Kierkegaard on Escaping the Cult of Busyness - <AUTHOR> https://iainews.iai.tv/articles/how-kierkegaards-idea-of-idleness-can-help-us-diagnose-21st-century-busyness-auid-1150? <comment><USER2> Coming from a highly prolific author who rarely kept idle it's an interesting observation - though, and as the author of the article points out, it's likely a perspective on a theme that he debates himself either/or...and of course it goes without saying that Kierkegaard was an absolute genius and well worth reading!

<comment><USER3> On the topic of idleness, you may also find Russell's _In Praise of Idleness_ interesting (it has been discussed on HN before)

[https://harpers.org/archive/1932/10/in-praise-of- idleness/](https://harpers.org/archive/1932/10/in-praise-of-idleness/)

It is where the following famous quote comes from:

"First of all: what is work? Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so."

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> I've recently started reading _Drucker 's Lost Art of Management_ and have discovered that Drucker's work has significant Kierkegaardian influences, amongst other writers: [https://books.google.lk/books?id=Pm4CHo6IdKIC&lpg=PA35&vq=Ki...](https://books.google.lk/books?id=Pm4CHo6IdKIC&lpg=PA35&vq=Kierkegaard&pg=PA34#v=onepage&q&f=false)

I've always thought of Drucker as the quintessential management guru disconnected from reality, but reading through this is starting to change my view about the man and his work...

<comment><USER4> I love hearing about how people changed their minds.

</comment></comment><comment><USER5> From Kierkegaard's _Works Of Love_ , pg. 103: "If you want to be well off and yet easily manage to become something, then forget God, never let yourself really become aware, never let it become really clear to you that it is he who has created you from nothing; proceed on the presupposition that a human being does not have time to waste on keeping in mind the one to whom he infinitely and unconditionally owes everything... Forget it and be noisy along with the crowd, laugh or cry, be busy from morning until night, be loved and respected and esteemed as a friend, as a public official, as a king, as a pallbearer. Above all be an earnest person by having forgotten the one and only earnestness, to relate yourself to God, to become nothing."

<comment><USER6> This is great, thanks! This is very similar to one of my favorite parts from Sickness Unto Death:

"Now this form of despair goes virtually unnoticed in the world. Precisely by losing oneself in this way, a person gains all that is required for a flawless performance in everyday life, yes, for making a great success out of life. One is ground as smooth as a pebble. Far from anyone thinking of such a person as being in despair, he is just what a human being ought to be. He is praised by others; honored, esteemed, and occupied with all the goals of temporal life.

Yes, what we call worldliness simply consists of such people who, if one may so express it, pawn themselves to the world. They use their abilities, amass wealth, carry out enterprises, make prudent calculations, and the like, and perhaps are mentioned in history, but they are not authentic selves. They are copies. In a spiritual sense they have no self, no self for whose sake they could venture everything, no self for God, however self-consumed they are otherwise."

</comment></comment><comment><USER7> Kierkegaard used to make appearances at the theatre, but never staying long, to make it look like he _wasn 't_ busy. Now that's going a bit far.

I also love _Either /Or_, parts of it, anyway - it's some of the funniest writing I know. So many classic bits.

</comment><comment><USER8> Kierkegaard might not have had a mortgage, kids vectoring toward absurdly expensive college, a shaky economy, the knowledge at any moment one could lose health care. In the modern economy, the sword of economic Damocles hangs above us all.

<comment><USER9> > _..Absurdly expensive college, a shaky economy, the knowledge at any moment > one could lose health care._

Hundreds of millions of people living in First World countries don't have these things hanging over them. I personally feel the things you have mentioned are a basic human right.</comment></comment>


China in Africa: how Sam Pa became the middleman - <AUTHOR> http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/308a133a-1db8-11e4-b927-00144feabdc0.html#axzz39uFFUYxu

<comment><USER2> The Chinese have also brought their ghost cities along. There was a CNN thing done a couple of years ago about this:

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8HyDGCNxpo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8HyDGCNxpo)

<comment><USER3> you should read the comments in the link you provide.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> The Economist did a similar story 3 years ago

[http://www.economist.com/node/21525847](http://www.economist.com/node/21525847)

</comment><comment><USER5> Can't read because of a paywall.</comment>


The Bloomberg Terminal, a Wall Street Fixture, Faces Upstarts - <AUTHOR> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/10/business/dealbook/the-bloomberg-terminal-a-wall-street-fixture-faces-upstarts.html?_r=0 <comment><USER2> Calling Bloomberg a tech company is generous. They are a data company, and the quality and breadth of their data is unmatched. Reproducing this completeness of their data requires would require agreements with a huge number of data providers (exchanges for publicly offered securities and over the counter exotic securities). You also need in-house collection and quality assurance (for example, some exchanges send bad ticks or bad close prices and these need manual correcting) for many classes of data that either not publicly provided (LLP ownership data, M&A league tables, leveraged loan data) or simply needs follow-on collection (such and IPO from S-1 filing through to pre-market pricing). While it's possible to chip away at their datasets individually, creating a product that provides the same thing would be nearly impossible for a small company.

<comment><USER3> We have many, many people that work on data. We also have ballpark 4,000 programmers. If that doesn't make a "tech" company, then what is your definition?

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> As a trader and dev who's used Bloomberg for over a decade:

The only reason Bloomberg chat is used is because all the traders have a terminal. There's no reason that couldn't be replicated. Heck, they could just get Slack. It has the main requirement, which is the log is stored (compliance). You also have group chats and "ring the bell" functions.

The thing Bloomberg gives you that's useful is a way to look at all sorts of data and pull it out in many formats. Your average trader is an amateur at coding, but he can still figure out how to pull some data onto his excel spreadsheet. Once you graduate to a somewhat more robust system, there's a bunch of APIs in all the popular languages that you can use to pull the data into your own database (are you supposed to do that? I don't know, but I'll bet you everyone does it). The data part is a bit harder to dislodge, because BBG provides a common way to refer to every instrument, and you get used to the field codes. You also understand what that data means, ie details like when the data is published, whether the numbers are adjusted for splits, etc. That would be an annoying and tedious thing to replicate with some other provider, and could easily cost you more than 20K in salaries to recreate.

Bloomberg is indeed a major overhead. If you get one for every trader/salesperson, that's quite an overhead on top of that person's salary. Most people don't event use it enough to justify having their own, but I guess they'd feel bad if they didn't have one, status being what it is on a trading floor. When things are going well, you can say "oh it's the commission on a single trade" (which is true), but when things are bad you might think twice. In order to pull all the money out of the customers, Bloomberg prevents you from using RDP into the machine.

<comment><USER5> In my experience, this is not about the chat software (Bloomberg's not that great at it) but more about the best customer service ever. And that's really difficult to copy, in particular by startups which usually prefer to forget about customer service at all...

<comment><USER4> The best customer service ever?

If you ask them something mundane like "How do I show dividends for GE?" they will know.

If you ask anything even slightly technical like "How do I get the API to adjust the divendends?" you will hit a wall.

The customer service people seem to be there only for the terminal users.

<comment><USER5> Whenever I have issues with their API I just use their API support web page, not the terminal. In my experience, the terminal support team doesn't know anything about their APIs. If you are as lucky as I am, you also get to directly email or call the person responsible for handling all about your company at Bloomberg. I understand other people might have a different experience but in my view they are the best custome service I ever used. On the opposite side I can think of their main competitor, Reuters, and their awful customer service, in particular the API support team. I always need to schedule a meeting if I want something done about my support emails. I would add their APIs quality match their customer support...

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> Bloomberg runs on 25 million lines of Fortran...

[https://etrading.wordpress.com/2006/06/01/25-million- lines-o...](https://etrading.wordpress.com/2006/06/01/25-million-lines-of- fortran/)

The NY Times is right to point out that it's the range of offerings in Bloomberg that make it so hard to dislodge: news, dealer quotes, market data, reference data, historical data, email & chat, charting etc. There are many firms tackling parts of that puzzle, but nobody attempting to do it all. Bloomberg is a classic platform business; with such strong demand from one constituency - traders renting terminals - that it can afford to treat other platform clients with disdain. When I worked for a dealer contributing quotes to BBG I found them incredibly difficult to work with.

<comment><USER7> "June 1, 2006"

<comment><USER6> The BBG UI certainly hasn't changed since then. They bought in John Lakos ([https://www.linkedin.com/pub/john- lakos/4/117/888](https://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-lakos/4/117/888)), the "Large Scale C++" author to help them make the jump to C++ in 2001 and linkedin says he's still there. Given they have a winning business model, and the forces of inertia being what they are, I'm betting nothing's changed...

<comment><USER8> The UI looks archaic but I wouldn't presume that says anything about how it works under the hood. There are other forces at work on the UI. See e.g. [https://uxmag.com/articles/the-impossible-bloomberg- makeover](https://uxmag.com/articles/the-impossible-bloomberg-makeover)

<comment><USER3> The UI and the technology it is built on have changed drastically since a decade ago, but not all changes are cosmetic. Changes to the core UX have to happen gradually and evolve with users because, as you know, this is an actual real product used 24/7 and you can't just change everything out from most users on a Friday when they come back into work the following Monday.

I'm not going to say much about that linked article -- just that it is almost complete nonsense and wish it would stop being brought up whenever the software is mentioned.

<comment><USER8> Yes, I think we're saying the same thing. And I didn't realize that was a frequently cited article.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> In my last job, I used the Bloomberg terminal on a daily basis. I loved it -- the breadth and reliability of their data is unmatched.

As I see it, the two main weaknesses to the business model an upstart could use are:

(a) DOS-like UI/UX: though many of their clients take pride in their skills at navigating the arcane maze of commands to access data (and once you know how to access the data you need it becomes lightning fast), it's a serious hurdle to overcome for more casual users. The terminals sat relatively idle in my office when I first joined because no one went through the trouble to access them.

They have excellent customer service on call who basically does the work for you at no further cost if you need it, but that's a very expensive band-aid, and it's time-consuming. Many of the senior directors at my company preferred to use Thomson's browser-based data from their desktops to get information more quickly.

(b) Privacy/secrecy: In May 2013, a few banks, including Goldman, complained Bloomberg reporters was spying on their traders' activity on the terminals:

[http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/13/business/media/bloomberg-a...](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/13/business/media/bloomberg- admits-terminal-snooping.html)

Secrecy is paramount to these traders. I'm not surprised they're backing a new chat feature.

<comment><USER10> > it's a serious hurdle to overcome for more casual users.

Bloomberg has no casual users at $21k/terminal. And they probably like it that way.

I'm sure there's a way to make the interface less arcane, but it IS effecive for regular users, and I suspect that the main complexity problem is in the data domain, rather than in Bloomberg's specific UX.

</comment></comment><comment><USER11> It says a Bloomberg Terminal costs 21k dollars per year. I was expecting it to be more expensive, since an on-premises license for Hipchat in a large corp (5k users) costs 3.5 times as much. Is it 21k $ for how many users?

<comment><USER12> 21k$ per user and per computer.

<comment><USER13> per user _or_ per computer (Bloomberg Anywhere or Bloomberg Open). Real-time data is extra since the exchanges charge more, but 15' delayed to pretty much everything is included, which goes a very long way.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER14> That's cute. Good that there are alternatives, but Bloomberg isn't going anywhere, it forms part of the foundation for half the hedge funds and investment banks in the world. It's not just a source of data, in many cases, it is the definitive yardstick to which all other data is measured, to the point where, if Bloomberg has actual, verifiable errors, people will often knowingly mangle their data only to match Bloomberg.

</comment><comment><USER15> Here is the application : [https://www.money.net/#see](https://www.money.net/#see)

It seems written in Java.</comment>


Personal AI project video: Anticipating user needs with GOFAI - <AUTHOR> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPBO27QV0do&list=PLnDAqTA1A_NYwcDeFa3oFQwtA6pOgtdVR&index=2 <comment><USER2> OMG, you've built a mansplaining bot

<comment><AUTHOR> XD ...I had not thought of it that way yet. It's because the bot itself is naive.</comment></comment>


Start-Up Salaries and Myths About them - <AUTHOR> http://www.pluggd.in/start-up-salaries-and-myths-about-them-297/

<comment><USER2> "the non-founding start-up CEOs make only 1.7 times more compensation in terms of cash [than the CTO]"

Yeah, 1.7 times more cash compensation isn't significant…</comment>


Show HN: 1 KB JavaScript framework for building front-end applications - <AUTHOR> https://github.com//hyperapp/hyperapp <comment><USER4> It is not a library. It is a framework. The distinction is important and whatever you choose influences how you test, develop and maintain your software. Libraries are slaves of your code. When you use libraries you have control. When you use a framework it is the opposite, you depend on the magic provided by it and ultimately you lose part of that control. The choice is clear for me.

<comment><USER5> OK, we'll s/library/framework/ the above.

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> I am happy after the React fiasco these libraries are finally getting lime light. I have personally used DIO.js ([https://dio.js.org](https://dio.js.org)), Vue.js and Inferno, but not Hyperapp. So far I have seen DIO outperform almost every library in heavy view cases (table with ~ 1k rows and rows itself having deep nesting). I am curious however how does hyperapp perform.

<comment><AUTHOR> Thanks for the comment :)

Hyperapp doesn't outperform DIO.js, but that was never the mission I embarked on with this project. You can see it benchmarked <[https://rawgit.com/krausest/js-framework- benchmark/master/>](https://rawgit.com/krausest/js-framework- benchmark/master/>) among many other frameworks and you can see it's on the same ballpark as React.

The goal of this project is to minimize the concepts you need to learn to write a modern frontend app while staying on par with what other libraries can do; deliver good performance, but not at the sake of a clumsy or awkward API; reduce the boilerplate and still follow our "simplified" take on Flux or the Elm architecture if you prefer.

Hyperapp is unreservedly functional, we don't have stateful components, use `this`, classes or have more than one way to do the same thing.

We are not just about saving bytes either, but size and our brutally small code base is important for a few reasons. The idea behind the entire thing being 300 LOC is that _anyone_ can understand how everything works within a few hours. It's genuinely possible to understand not just what it does, but how it does it.

IMHO a normal person can't do that with React, or DIO, or most of the other large-ish frameworks out there. Even Preact, I found it too large for my taste. Yes, minified and gzipped is like 3.4 KB, but that translates to almost 800 LOC. It's an outstanding achievement considering it's just a fraction of React, but you are only getting React+ReactDOM.

Hyperapp is not perfect, but you are getting React+ReactDOM+Redux+ReduxThunk out of the box.

Just for a light (and harmless) comparison, this is a +/\- counter in DIO.js:

        class Counter {
          getInitialState () {
            return {
              count: 0
            }
          }
          increment () {
            return {
              count: this.state.count + 1
            }
          }
          decrement () {
            return {
              count: this.state.count - <USER3>
            }
          }
          render () {
            return [
              this.state.count,
              h('button', {onClick: this.increment}, '+'),
              h('button', {onClick: this.decrement}, '-')
            ]
          }
        }

        dio.render(Counter);

And here is the same in Hyperapp:

        app({
          state: 0,
          actions: {
            add: state => state + 1,
            sub: state => state - <USER3>
          },
          view: (state, actions) =>

              <button onclick={actions.add}>+</button>

{state}

              <button onclick={actions.sub}>-</button>

        })

<comment><USER6> Thanks for your response, I totally buy the argument of stateful components (believe me I have seen worst of the worst bugs due to these issues), and bringing down time to learn concept. But 300LOC, Woah! you got my attention! I think the thing that derived React was ecosystem around it (which I think FB is going to loose pretty soon), and most libraries including DIO.js (excluding Vue.js) don't have much of it.

For the comparison example you did, don't post it anywhere officially :P because I can use babel with jsx preset (I am sure hyperapp is using too) and then do the stylish lambdas to make code look cleaner. That would be a fair comparison.

<comment><AUTHOR> Sorry, I am sure you could use JSX with DIO.js too. To be honest, I wasn't even looking at the JSX. I grabbed it from where I found it. The takeaway is not JSX, but the fact that they use classes and that's all.

Personally, if I was going to go with this kind of architecture, I'd choose Preact (or React if I can't help it) to tap into the massive React ecosystem.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> I started using HyperApp in my company's admin dashboard to render a complex diagram.

In my experience over the past few months, HyperApp works very well, the documentation is solid, the performance is great, and we've encountered no bugs so far.

If I had to do it over again, I would choose HyperApp again. Great work, folks.

</comment><comment><USER8> I want to see the trend of maximal libraries in javascript now.

Show HN: 2 MB JavaScript library for building front end applications with a lot of useful interactive ui components.

like [https://github.com/nlp-compromise/compromise](https://github.com/nlp- compromise/compromise)

<comment><USER9> I agree.

The fight for really small frameworks is most relevant for consumer apps, especially ones consumed on mobile.

But even on mobile, it's primarily relevant because customers get minimal value from your app or are bad at accurately assessing the value they get.

In my day job, I work on a system where business users spend several hours a day using it. Loading a MB of minified JS has such a limited effect on the overall time it takes users to get their work done, it's almost irrelevant. Though, per the point about accuracy above, I wonder how it affects our demos.

<comment><USER10> I used to need to use a large web app like that at work. You'd get a login page. Submitting your login caused the app to load, which was many MB. Once that was all downloaded, the page would finally display, and you could do what you needed to. (In our case, you usually only needed to look something up quickly and be done, which is a bit different than your case.) But the real kicker is... the company VPN was slow. Really slow. In fact, most of the time, as soon as the app finally loaded, the first thing it did was pop up a dialog telling you your session had expired due to inactivity and send you back to the login page to start over from scratch.

I sure missed the simple, small, usable, multi page site we used before the "upgrade" to the single page app competitor! (On top of that, the old one worked fine on mobile. The new one, not at all.)

<comment><USER9> That's painful. I definitely think that there are cases where enterprise users would be best served by simple server rendered HTML or minimal JS.

Still, I can't help but think that the real low-hanging fruit is the slow VPN. How much time was wasted waiting for the network? So many companies are penny- wise pound-foolish.

<comment><USER11> I think you have it backwards here. Most companies are pound wise in the sense that they consider the time cost of employees in a project management setting, but don't account for the small but frequent time wasted waiting on a slow network.

It's not impossible but it's a tough sell arguing for a 50k expenditure for better hardware for the VPN will actually save the company time worth >50k.

<comment><USER9> Hmm, maybe I underestimate the cost of VPN upgrades.

I'd say that there's a point where the overhead of spending money becomes high enough that companies will waste a lot of expensive employee time to avoid requisitioning something.

And although companies track high level time costs in a project management context, I'm not sure whether they're conscious of the way that time use can be driven by bits of waste.

That sorta fits "penny wise, pound foolish", but sorta doesn't.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> So far, the Infinite monkey theorem is just giving us an infinite number of javascript frameworks, and no Shakespeare

</comment><comment><USER13> So I'm looking at the example JS snippet and suddenly it embeds HTML in the middle. Can someone who knows current JS explain how this even parses?

<comment><USER14> It's JSX which is basically PHP reborn as a front end technology.

Everything old is new again...

<comment><USER15> JSX is more like Cold Fusion, I think.

<comment><AUTHOR> I remember I was perhaps 17 and while I really didn't understand very well what ColdFusion was about, I wanted to try it out so badly. Unfortunately, it wasn't free, so I was never able to get do anything with it. I enjoyed AS3 to the fullest though.

<comment><USER15> My first major development project was an intranet I wrote in Cold Fusion 4.

I was an on-site support tech for a software company who wrote software for tracking market data for trading companies around Wall Street. The company used a huge MS Access "app" to track our knowledge base and customer support requests. The app obviously took a ton of time to develop but was slow and difficult to use and required a weekly upload / merge to the main office in Colorado.

So one day while strolling around downtown after lunch, I randomly happened upon some guy selling business and programming books on a table on the sidewalk (on Broad Street for those familiar). I bought a book on Cold Fusion 4 for $20 and over the next two months put together a prototype in my spare time that was a slick interface on top of the Access Database.

It was a hit with the NY office, and after about a year of working on it in my spare time, the whole company started using it. They replaced the Access app with my intranet and hired a SQL server guy to manage the database behind it. They didn't want me to leave my on-site support position because I was doing really well with it, so I ended up splitting my job - half time as a tech, half as a programmer.

That company, which was incredibly successful at the end of the 90s, has since shrunk from 150 or so employees around the world to less than 10. From what I understand they're still using that old Cold-Fusion based intranet I wrote all those years ago.

After I got laid off I moved on to PHP because I couldn't afford CF on my own.

AS3 remains, to this day, one of my favorite programming languages. I had really hoped JavaScript would start to resemble it eventually.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER16> Would love to see the code documented with docco, like so: [http://dak0rn.github.io/prunk/](http://dak0rn.github.io/prunk/)

The whole library would be documented on one page which is a fairly low entry barrier for new developers. Thanks for this awesome project!

<comment><AUTHOR> That would be so nice! I am working on a "how it works" post, but it's still not finished.

If you are interested have a look here:

[https://gist.github.com/jbucaran/8dc33b7947f3193eb2ea3d5700e...](https://gist.github.com/jbucaran/8dc33b7947f3193eb2ea3d5700e27036)

<comment><USER16> Neat! The great thing about docco is that it takes the comments right from the source and creates that page out of it. So you have both a pretty website and the same documentation directly in the code.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER17> Another small template engine similar to React is ".dom", weighing in at only 500 bytes!

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13605673](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13605673)

It only works in modern browsers supporting Proxy.

<comment><AUTHOR> Looks really cool, other than Object.assign, Proxy and Symbol I think this is quite an achievement for that size, but I am pretty sure it doesn't support keyed DOM updates. Hyperapp was also under 1 KB before we introduced the keyed VDOM.

<comment><USER17> What is keyed DOM updates? Is that the equivalent of React's `key` property?

[https://facebook.github.io/react/docs/lists-and- keys.html#ke...](https://facebook.github.io/react/docs/lists-and- keys.html#keys)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER18> Dupe: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14629414](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14629414)

<comment><AUTHOR> We've come a long way since then. We are super close to 1.0 now and while the API hasn't changed much, there have been numerous breaking changes and we've also added new features, documentation, examples and seen the ecosystem grow too.

<comment><USER18> For next time: consider sharing a link to a release notes/announcement/update page with all of that information, instead of reposting the main project page URL.

(Great project, BTW!)

<comment><AUTHOR> Thanks! Here is the release notes page of the last dozen of versions for now.

[https://github.com/hyperapp/hyperapp/releases](https://github.com/hyperapp/hyperapp/releases)

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER19> Do you have any examples of websites made with Hyperapp?

<comment><USER20> I have made a few simple sites with hyperapp in its various stages of development. I am not advocating that any of these projects represent the _proper_ way to build a hyperapp (or a web app in general for that matter, I am learning too) but they are hyperapps.. in production!

Site: [https://audiostream.world](https://audiostream.world) Repo: [https://github.com/joextodd/audiostream](https://github.com/joextodd/audiostream)

Site: [https://browses.io](https://browses.io) Repo: [https://github.com/browses/frontend](https://github.com/browses/frontend)

Site: [https://plural.video](https://plural.video) Repo: [https://github.com/lukejacksonn/plural](https://github.com/lukejacksonn/plural)

Site: [https://hyperapp-hn.deployable.site](https://hyperapp- hn.deployable.site) Repo: [https://github.com/lukejacksonn/hyperapp- hn](https://github.com/lukejacksonn/hyperapp-hn)

There is also [https://github.com/hyperapp/awesome- hyperapp](https://github.com/hyperapp/awesome-hyperapp) which is full of much community goodness.

Hope that helps! Join us on slack if you have questions :]</comment></comment>


Asian workers now dominate Silicon Valley tech jobs (2012) - <AUTHOR> http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_22094415/asian-workers-now-dominate-silicon-valley-tech-jobs <comment><USER2> The statements made by Yolanda Lewis in this article are disturbingly racist.

> _Tech companies, Lewis said, "do not want to employ Americans. They import > labor from overseas, pushing for H-1B visas. Check the job boards. They > basically say, 'H-1B Visa. Americans need not apply.' For years, women, > blacks and Latinos have been kept out of the tech job market. Now white men > are being forced to train their replacements."_

What does the h1-b visa have to do with Asian _Americans_? Apparently she believes that only women, black, latino and white people can count as "american".

Also, the idea that "Asian Culture" has a particularly "deep work ethic" or dedication to eduction is confirmation bias. Asians who immigrated to America were a self-selected group of highly educated people who aspired to a better life.

<comment><USER3> There was also no mention of which jobs were held by Asian Americans versus immigrant Asians. I think there's a stark difference between an increase in jobs held by Asian immigrants versus an increase in jobs held by Asian Americans. In the latter, the jobs are still held by Americans.

<comment><USER2> That should be true for Black, White and Latino immigrants as well. The _assumption_ that Asians are immigrants while others are not is a prejudiced one.

It's also not wise to provoke animosity against immigrants generally. Most of these people are going to become "Americans" soon enough. They are here, contributing to the economy and culture, paying taxes etc.

We are a nation of immigrants .. cliched but true. Newcomers should be welcomed and celebrated.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER4> """ Tech companies, Lewis said, "do not want to employ Americans. They import labor from overseas, pushing for H-1B visas. Check the job boards. They basically say, 'H-1B Visa. Americans need not apply.' """

Can anyone point to a few examples of this? I've never seen it.

<comment><USER5> Fwd.us?

<comment><USER6> Yeah, exactly, and even though you're technically prohibited from excluding Americans in the job ads, take it from Cohen & Grigsby, there's plenty of ways around that problem:

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU)

They'll teach you how they assist employers in running classified ads with the goal of NOT finding any qualified American applicants.

You can thank them directly here: [http://www.cohenlaw.com](http://www.cohenlaw.com)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> What fascinates me the most about this and related issues is that there is a relentless drive towards reducing the rights and compensation for salaried workers, while increasing the rights and powers of entrenched, powerful, wealthy elites.

It is no secret that the tech industry is furious with the salaries it is forced to pay engineers. This drives billionaires batshit crazy, enough so that they're willing to pay lobbyists millions to constantly increase the number of impoverished foreign engineers imported on tenuous "work visas".

A cursory glance at history puts this in perspective. Oligarchs and feudal lords went to considerable lengths to ensure the average artisan received little more than a subsistence wage. Furthermore, taxes were for the little people, not the elites. "Government" has historically been a protection racket made for the elite, by the elite. Any delusions to the contrary have been put to rest quite conclusively [1].

1\. [http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/29/opinion/capitalism-vs- demo...](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/29/opinion/capitalism-vs- democracy.html)

</comment><comment><USER7> There is an interesting observation about Asian cultures made by Malcolm Gladwell in his book Outliers [1]. He argues that one of the reasons why Asians are _statistically_ better at math than others is because of the language and cultural legacy. More precisely, it is a lot easier to remember numbers in Chinese (and other Asian languages, apparently) than in English, giving Chinese children a head start in mathematics. This turns into quite an advantage by the time they reach college. He also argues that societies that were developed on rice farming tend to be more diligent as it is a lot more labor intensive work than ,for example, wheat farming. Also Chinese feudalism had more of a "hands off" approach, where the landlords were always taking a fixed amount of their earnings. So while Europeans were making pretty much the same amount of money during all their harvests, Asians had an income which was more proportional to their efforts. There is a lot more to it for sure, and I don't know if he is right, but its certainly a nice read.

[1] - [http://gladwell.com/outliers/rice-paddies-and-math- tests/](http://gladwell.com/outliers/rice-paddies-and-math-tests/)

<comment><USER8> By this logic Arabs and Persians must be mathematical geniuses since they invented the math system most of the world uses.

Malcolm Gladwell says (sells) a lot of shit. Literally.

</comment></comment><comment><USER9> This is from 2012. Maybe put that in the title ?

<comment><USER10> Thank you. Given that and the high-indignation, low-information thread it has already precipitated, I think this post can be described as a troll.

</comment></comment><comment><USER8> > as a 19-year-old junior at SJSU studying computer science, Leu said many > non-Asians don't appreciate "the Asian culture, where there is a deep work > ethic that America hasn't really bought into yet."

Checks GDP per Capita[1]. I believe she meant "some Americans don't appreciate the Asian culture, where some Asians have a deep worth ethic that some Americans haven't bought really bought into yet."

[1][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_\(PPP\)_per_capita)

<comment><USER11> Maybe I am confused. What does GDP have to do with this?

<comment><USER8> Since the P in GDP stands for productivity and the US has one of the highest GDPs I find it extremely ironic when someone says Americans don't have or don't understand work ethic.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> That's so strange. According to Shanley Kane and Anil Dash, the Valley is dominated by racist white men who systematically exclude all outgroups.

Clearly, this article is just the white supremacists and their power structures writing puff pieces to hide the slavery lurking within the black heart of the Valley?

<comment><USER13> Look guize, us Asian men don't count in the diversity quota. In fact it works against us. We retain all the 'privilege' narrative-based negative points in Progressive demonology as white men, plus we gain a few systematic discrimination points from University affirmative action programs, etc. Whenever 'diversity' is mentioned, we are either invisible or to be implicitly counted among white men.

<comment><USER14> Progressives don't demonize white people. You should investigate what a progressive actually is, rather than regurgitate whatever talking points you're getting from mass media or wherever.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER15> ✓ Victim Complex: "For years, women, blacks and Latinos have been kept out of the tech job market."

✓ Blame Game: "Now white men are being forced to train their replacements."

✓ Biased Reporting.

Apparently anyone can be a "journalist" now a days. Do you guys remember all those articles about San Francisico Gentrification a few weeks back? All complaining about how the evil white male tech workers were taking up real estate? Ooops. Turns out 50% of the tech workers are Asian. Funny how that was left out. I'm having a hard time believing anything anymore.

I guess there's no such thing as a fluctuation anymore. Every change is a conspiracy.

<comment><USER16> Asian representing more than 50 percent of the tech company workforce in certain counties does not indicate their salary level, titles, or how much they allocate towards housing, which would be a be better indication of the impact on gentrification. "Funny" how that works.

<comment><USER15> Funny indeed. [http://minus.com/i/bgqCzuSwvcAi1](http://minus.com/i/bgqCzuSwvcAi1)</comment></comment></comment>


Alien life could thrive in ancient star clusters - <AUTHOR> http://www.nature.com/news/alien-life-could-thrive-in-ancient-star-clusters-1.19124 <comment><USER2> _Nightfall_ , as mentioned at the end of the piece, is a great little early Asimov story - a culture to whom candles are alien and the idea of artificial light is bizarre. Thoroughly recommend. In fact, here it is: [https://www.uni.edu/morgans/astro/course/nightfall.pdf](https://www.uni.edu/morgans/astro/course/nightfall.pdf)

<comment><USER3> The End of Eternity and Nightfall (the novel with Robert Silverberg, not the short story) are Asimov's greatest novels.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> One argument against the proposition: these very old stars have low metallicity. If life requires chemistry with elements above lithium in atomic number, it might be more rare around first-generation stars.

<comment><USER5> I'm always surprised this isn't discussed more or at least a variable to consider among others for updating the Drake Equation.

<comment><USER6> Yes; I've often wondered about the potential existence of planets with an insufficient quantity of rare earth metals, and if that renders them basically "inhospitable" to high tech civilization.

<comment><USER7> Why rare earth metals specifically?

<comment><USER6> They're used for a whole host of technologies -- doping semiconductors, magnets, lens coatings, metal alloys, etc.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER8> "The question is not -where- are the life forms capable of interstellar communication, but -when- are they."

That is the central point of the argument in the article, yet somehow it's never really mentioned.

</comment><comment><USER9> What about gamma ray bursts? I've read that our position more at the outer rim of the galaxy is beneficial because there are fewer gamma ray bursts compared to more dense regions.

<comment><USER10> Aren't most GRBs extra-galactic in origin? If anything, being on the outskirts means there's less matter protecting us from them.

<comment><USER11> They're only dangerous if they happen within the same galaxy and your planet happens to be right on the axis of the narrow burst cone. In that case there might still be a statistical advantage to being nearer to the core of the galaxy due to more matter density, but it might be offset by the increased chance of getting hit with a GRB there in the first place.

Also, we're not actually within the outer rim of the galaxy: [http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/news/gallery/gala...](http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/news/gallery/galaxy- location.html)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> An advanced alien civilization will probably have very low radiation signature. To afford the maximum amount of computation, it should completely encase the star (maximum energy) and radiate all waste heat toward a black hole (maximum cooling).

<comment><USER11> > _and radiate all waste heat toward a black hole (maximum cooling)._

It's comparatively inefficient to radiate heat into a narrow cone, and there is little advantage to radiating it into a black hole. On the contrary, matter falling into the black hole will form an accretion disk that radiates heat back to you. In order to maximize dissipation, they would simply radiate it away into all directions uniformly.

However, there might be other considerations to take into account here besides physics. It might be important to such an isolated civilization to avoid detection. In that case they would gladly take the hit on efficiency and radiate their heat in narrow cones into the gaps where no nearby stars are located.

> _An advanced alien civilization will probably have very low radiation > signature. To afford the maximum amount of computation_

Maybe. We can't say what the goals are of any advanced civilization. The reason why we like to talk about this _specific_ type of civilization is that they are the type that we can actually _look for_ right now.

But as I said above, if you're an isolationist population of computer brains, it makes sense to go through the effort of avoiding other people showing up on your doorstep. Such a culture might deem it acceptable to invest most of their energy budget into avoiding detection, as opposed to computation only.

<comment><USER10> To bring it back to the parent comment, wouldn't it make sense for such a culture to live near a black hole? All of their waste emissions would be shadowed pretty well by the accretion disk, and other species might avoid the neighborhood in general given that it's not a safe or nice place to be.

<comment><USER11> > _wouldn 't it make sense for such a culture to live near a black hole?_

Technically the black hole doesn't offer anything beyond what a sun of comparable output would offer.

> _and other species might avoid the neighborhood in general given that it 's > not a safe or nice place to be_

True, but the reasons for avoiding close contact with it are also the reasons why building a habitat there is potentially risky. All things being equal, a Mercury-like planet would make a better base for a civilization having those goals: it offers a lot of solar energy, affords some protection from detection by being too close to the star to resolve it as a non-natural heat source, and as opposed to the black hole it's also in a stable environment.

<comment><USER12> > _Technically the black hole doesn 't offer anything beyond what a sun of > comparable output would offer._

Low temperature (lower than cosmic background).

<comment><USER11> If you're really after those 3 Kelvin, you might be happier selecting a host star that is 3 degrees hotter instead, especially considering the practical efficiencies of heat exchange systems near absolute zero temperatures.

<comment><USER12> If your computer can operate near the Landauer limit, then cooling it to ~10^-7 K makes computing operations cheaper by a factor of ~10^7. Using a 3 K warmer heat source won't accomplish the same.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER13> The thing these speculations about alien life and communicating with them miss is: what if the aliens don't _want_ to talk to us? That's probably why you don't hear so much about UFOs these days like we did a few decades ago: they came, they checked us out, and then they launched some beacons just outside our solar system warning everyone to stay away, along with a Galactic General Order that if we ever develop enough to send manned missions outside our system, we have to be destroyed for the good of the galaxy.

<comment><USER11> There are two propositions here:

One, that some UFO sightings are due to the activities of extraterrestrial intelligences. This seems very unlikely at this point.

Second, that the Fermi Paradox exists at least partly due to aliens avoiding us specifically, what is commonly referred to as the "zoo hypothesis". As far as speculative explanations go, it's not an unreasonable contender. However, it is not among the most likely or the most simple hypotheses out there.

The zoo hypothesis pre-supposes the ready availability of FTL technology, which itself implies that such technology is even possible in general. It also hinges on a specific combination of psychological factors and random happenstance, namely the desire to isolate an entire star system (which is not a trivial feat), and the fact that they even discovered our existence in the first place (which is also quite the coincidence, even for a culture that can travel faster than the speed of light).

These reasons don't rule out the zoo hypothesis. However, if I were to bet on one scenario, it would be the practical consequences of the fact that expected distances between civilizations are enormous in both time and space, plus the weakly-shining light cone of our technologically advanced existence doesn't reach very far and isn't easy to detect - and those same factors would be preventing us from seeing an advanced civilization as well, even if they happened to be relatively close by.

<comment><USER14> >Second, that the Fermi Paradox exists at least partly due to aliens avoiding us specifically, what is commonly referred to as the "zoo hypothesis". As far as speculative explanations go, it's not an unreasonable contender. However, it is not among the most likely or the most simple hypotheses out there.

even we, Earthicans, can learn from Columbus visiting America and the following fate of civilizations there. Any higher developed civilization definitely has "zoo"/Prime Directive principle in place.

A technological civilization stage between start of building machines (Industrial Revolution in our case) and FTL (and thus also leaving EM related tech behind) is pretty short, thousands, may be tens of thousands of years - absolutely not enough to have overlaps between tech civilizations to listen/watch radio/TV of each other.

>The zoo hypothesis pre-supposes the ready availability of FTL technology, which itself implies that such technology is even possible in general.

well, far galaxies run away from us at speeds higher than FTL, so it is possible. Space expansion is different machinery and not subject to "c" limit (that limit is only valid against static space)

<comment><USER11> > _may be tens of thousands of years - absolutely not enough to have overlaps > between tech civilizations to listen /watch radio/TV of each other_

From what we know, that is a reasonable assumption.

> _Space expansion is different machinery and not subject to "c" limit (that > limit is only valid against static space)_

The expansion of the universe and rapidly-increasing distance to far galaxies is not a good example, but yes, the "limit" of c is only applicable to static space. And you are right in the sense that the Hubble flow is an example of objects changing their relative positions without momentum being the primary component.

As I like to frame it: in day-to-day life we are used to define "travel" as accelerating matter to a certain velocity until we reach a destination point. However, acceleration is not the goal of travel: being at the destination point itself is the goal. For example, travel through an artificially shortened corridor of spacetime would still be a valid form of FTL even though acceleration itself never reached relativistically relevant levels.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER15> One thing that always surprises me about the search for ET is how often the purely psychological / consciousness aspect is disregarded. As anyone who has worked with DMT or Ayahuasca can tell you, you don't need to travel far to reach the outer limits of space or even have contact experiences, and this is very easy to test should the anti-scientific legal mechanisms preventing such a study be overcome.

Its like, Fermi's Paradox is almost completely irrelevant if you come from the position that any sufficiently advanced civilization is aware of the possible non-local properties of consciousness.

<comment><USER11> > _As anyone who has worked with DMT or Ayahuasca can tell you, you don 't > need to travel far to reach the outer limits of space or even have contact > experiences_

The effects of drug-induced illusions _are_ scientifically interesting to a number of research fields, including biochemistry and neurobiology. It may also be valuable for self-discovery and personal actualization. However, if you claim to be able to discern cosmological facts from these experiences, we are now firmly in the realm of religion.

> _and this is very easy to test should the completely anti-scientific legal > mechanisms preventing such a study be overcome_

There have been a lot of studies testing supernatural powers, with and without the influence of drugs, in the sixties and seventies. None of these have ever yielded anything. But if it's very easy to test, as you claim, then go ahead and test it. The James Randi foundation offers a sizable prize for you if you can show this works: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge)

<comment><USER15> I'm not claiming anything, I'm saying: its possible that there is more to consciousness than it appears and that the barriers to studying the relationships between certain tryptamine compounds and the human psyche is a worthy scientific endeavor to overcome. All I can speak to are my own _personal_ experiences, and those who participated in Rick Strassman's DMT study between 1990 and 1995 at the University of New Mexico.

If you don't mind me asking, how is this not clear?

<comment><USER11> > _I 'm not claiming anything, I'm saying: its possible that there is more to > consciousness than it appears_

That is not correct. In the post above you said, literally, " _you don 't need to travel far to reach the outer limits of space or even have contact experiences [...] Its like, Fermi's Paradox is almost completely irrelevant if you come from the position that any sufficiently advanced civilization is aware of the possible non-local properties of consciousness_". That's a claim.

I think it's fair to conclude you are _not_ assigning an extremely _low_ probability to there being " _more to consciousness than it appears_ ".

> _studying the relationships between certain tryptamine compounds and the > human psyche_

This is a purely biological endeavor. The reason why I responded to your earlier post, and also the reason why this even shows up in a thread about planet formation, is that you claim to be able to explore the cosmos by ingesting mind-altering substances.

> _All I can speak to are my own personal experiences._

For what it's worth, nobody is disputing you had these experiences. What is in dispute is the claim that these experiences yield scientific facts by virtue of remote viewing.

<comment><USER15> Ok let me clarify my position completely so that there is no dispute, and then I need to get back to work:

Formal and informal study participants have noted that when you ingest N,N-Dimethyltryptamine certain strange contact-like phenomena tend to occur within the biological-psychological interface known as Consciousness, and that these experiences -- which have an internal consistency -- seem to be inexplicably independent of culture, background or time. These contact experiences were so shocking that the lead investigator, Rick Strassman, discontinued his study. Meanwhile, nearly 20 years later, there are still legal barriers in place for the further study of these results due to the War on Drugs. My position is: the phenomena -- based upon my own personal experience -- is deeply strange, and in when put within the context of Fermi's Paradox, the Drake equation, etc, it might be time to approach the subject of consciousness from a different angle. Its so simple, its merely _to investigate_.

<comment><USER11> > _when you ingest N,N-Dimethyltryptamine certain strange contact-like > phenomena tend to occur_

That's not in question.

> _occur within the biological-psychological interface known as Consciousness_

This sentence includes a little submarine-like assumption, namely that our brains are merely the interface to a larger paranormal consciousness, as opposed to being the hardware that actually generates "consciousness". At this point, there is no scientific reason to believe this assumption which you smuggled in there has any factual validity.

> _These contact experiences were so shocking that the lead investigator, Rick > Strassman, discontinued his study._

Scientific efforts don't get discontinued because they are "shocking". While an individual researcher might move on, for _whatever reason_ , it's not correct to imply that certain outcomes are so disconcerting the scientific community would shy away from them. Otherwise, large swaths of physics and biology would have been abandoned a long time ago.

> _My position is: the phenomena [...] is deeply strange, and [...] it might > be time to approach the subject of consciousness from a different angle._

Yes, I think that position was understood from your first comment.</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment>


Apple Reports Softer Than Expected Third Quarter Earnings - <AUTHOR> http://abcnews.go.com/Business/apple-reports-softer-expected-quarter-earnings/story?id=16846881#.UA9gCJJGSGU <comment><USER2> > After the earnings were announced, shares tumbled 6 percent in after-hours > trading.

Ouch.</comment>


Paypal has locked Wikileaks' account - <AUTHOR> http://twitter.com/wikileaks/statuses/8101909291 <comment><USER2> This has happened countless of times to others.

We have had it with our paypal account, and this after having assisted paypal for four months during their beta roll-out. No reason, no possibility to petition, simply _bang_ all your funds are now belong to us, come back in 6 months and maybe we'll give it back to you.

<comment><AUTHOR> I am still amazed that it happens even with higher-profile users and Paypal's CEO or CPRO just let it happen...

<comment><USER2> This _really_ screwed us up, we used to pay out our best members a part of the proceeds (the 'camarades goldrush program'), and we had about $50K in our paypal account at the time, in reserve for payouts.

We ended up having a serious hickup in our cashflow, paid out the users from our other income and quit the goldrush program.

Users that were using paypal and that did not have an alternative way to pay (such as a credit card) were lost as paying members.

Since then I've used paypal only when I absolutely have to, and I really loathe their support department.

Anybody that uses paypal to receive funds for their business is asking for trouble.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER3> More reason why you should use a real bank that offers online banking services rather than a website, especially one that is not regulated in some parts of the world.

</comment><comment><USER4> On an unrelated note, Wikileaks needs a freenium model, or some other means of revenue besides donations.</comment>


Beyond distributed and decentralized: what is a federated network? - <AUTHOR> http://networkcultures.org/wpmu/unlikeus/resources/articles/what-is-a-federated-network/ <comment><USER2> Interesting article. Another take on federation would be the one espoused by the folks who created the WS-Federation spec. Their whitepaper (linked from the Wikipedia Page[1]) is an interesting read.

[1]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WS- Federation](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WS-Federation)</comment>


A New Golden Age for Computer Architecture - <AUTHOR> https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2019/2/234352-a-new-golden-age-for-computer-architecture/fulltext <comment><USER2> Previous discussion [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19023734](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19023734)

</comment><comment><USER3> There is _so_ much to unpack in this article. I pick this claim: That RISC-V is a simple(r) architecture and therefore meaningfully easier to verify[0].

The base RISC-V ISA is indeed very small. However, to compete with ARM/MIPS/x86 usefully as an application core, one must include many standard extensions. All of which add comparable complexity to the ARM/MIPS feature which they ape. It feels wrong to assert then without some serious qualification that RISC-V is simpler or easier to verify. A RISC-V core is no more or less complex to verify than a comparably featured ARM/MIPS core.

That said, and open ISA like RISC-V can really lead the way in terms of shared verification IP. _That_ is the benefit to an open ISA, not it's simplicity, but the fact that it becomes worthwhile for people to share their verification infrastructure. Unfortunately, I haven't seen much of this yet. riscv-formal is amazing, and the riscv-compliance suites are getting better, but proper constrained random stimulus generation and coverage collecton? Not yet, at least, not out there in the open source world. I really wish that Western Digital had included their verification infrastructure when they open sourced Swerv [1].

Really enjoyed the article otherwise!

0 - A reasonable person might disagree this claim is being so explicitly made, but that's what I took from it.

1 - [https://github.com/westerndigitalcorporation/swerv_eh1](https://github.com/westerndigitalcorporation/swerv_eh1)

<comment><USER4> Here are 3 errata I picked from the Xeon E5 series [0]:

> REP MOVS/STOS Executing with Fast Strings Enabled and Crossing Page > Boundaries with Inconsistent Memory Types may use an Incorrect Data Size or > Lead to Memory-Ordering Violations

> Changing the Memory Type for an In-Use Page Translation May Lead to Memory- > Ordering Violations

> When a Link is Degraded on a Port due to PCIe* Signaling Issues, Correctable > Receiver Errors May be Reported on The Neighboring Port

The 1st is related to ISA complexity, the 2nd and 3rd aren't.

Based on a quick scan, I think 24 of the first 100 errata are ISA-complexity related. So "meaningfully easier" might be justified, but many problems come from peripherals or the MMU rather than the instruction decoder.

[0] [https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents...](https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification- updates/xeon-e5-family-spec-update.pdf)

<comment><USER3> x86 is undoubtedly a very complex beast, so ARM/MIPS are fair _er_ comparisons. Never mind the fact that a Xeon CPU is boggling complex on top of that. I think you are right about how problems are more likely to come from interractions with peripherals, especially the MMU. Most of these things are not architecturally specified, so it's an orthogonal problem to ISA complexity.

Bugs in instruction decoders are something of a false flag in my opinion. They are no less important than other bugs, but they are much easier to find as well, because the problem space is more manageable. A little more complexity in an instruction decoder is not, in my opinion, enough justification to exclude otherwise useful instructions or functionality.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> > The limit of TDP led directly to the era of "dark silicon," whereby > processors would slow on the clock rate and turn off idle cores to prevent > overheating.

We used to do this in the 1990s with PHS cell phones in Japan: you certainly didn't need to listen to the microphone until a call was actually connected, and even then the caller might listen and not talk, so after connection you'd listen to the microphone but still not start up the voice compression chips until the noise got above a threshold (so a bit of the moshi moshi would get cut off -- no big deal).

</comment><comment><USER6> Golden age has been over long ago.</comment>