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blooming in march!
Is it possible that noone has started this thread yet???
here goes then..
thanks for the suggestion kemistry!the daphne bloomed after all and it smells great! My bf said the scent reminds him of a particular drugstore that sells perfumes!
Well in 2 days - I should have plenty of blooming photos. Well, at least 3 after the logees shopping trip. :) - but for now - the only color and scent in my apartment is coming from a single gardenia blossom, and my geranium plant. But, I should also state that my impatiens is also in bloom (scentless - but with 8 pretty pink flowers). It never did so well last summer - and here it is - march and she's gorgious - and quite root bound in a tiny 4 inch pot.
Hi Fenius,
Thanks for starting this thread...
My Orchid is blooming again ( Sweet Baby ) She sure smells like Chocolate.. I will go and take a pic for you!!!
Then it is to the cabinet for some real Chocolate!! :-)
Be back in a few...
Beautiful! I hope some day to sniff daphne. Congratulations!
Where are the pics of your new Logee's plants?
Looking good! You're lucky to have it rebloom so quickly. :)
Here's what blooming for me (thanks to a trip to my favorite nursery!). Heliotrope 'Fragrant Delight' (Heliotropium arborescens).
It will no doubt burn up once it gets unbearably hot here but I should be able to enjoy the scent for a few months.
I've been a bit bummed noticing that my Dwarf Deciduous Plumeria keeps aborting flower buds. Even lost a big one today that looked like it was going to open fairly soon. :(
Still hoping to get at least one bloom to sniff! Laugh.
I'm also impatiently waiting for my Brunfelsia australis to bloom. It's got one flower bud that's already purple so I can't wait to post pics when it opens!
Great photo fenius..!! Glad you like the scent. I was munching on a piece of ginger the other day and thought it smelled like daphne. Lol. Mine's done blooming but I miss it already.: )
Robert that's so cute. I want it again now that I see your pic. : )
Laura, i'm looking forward to your plumeria pictures this year ;)
My brunfelsia lady is blooming again tonight. She smells great.
The one bud on my magnolia coco is finally growing larger. It has been on the plant for over a year. Can you believe that. Lol.
I've been so busy and lazy that many of my plants are getting spider mites. :\
That's beautiful! The musk scents take some getting used to. If you mix with skunk, you'll have perfume.
It's a gardenia jasminoides varigated. And tiny, less than 6 inches, but with big expectations. :) now I won't have to decide the answer to whether I like gardenias or Jasmines more, It's a two'fer.
I love purple!!!My mathiolas have all sprouted robert, can't wait!!
Laura, I still haven't managed to get a hold of one of those...
I'm so unhappy today, I'm certain that my epigaea repens has perished completely...no mayflowers this year...
I hope my hoelbellia blooms soon though!
Ha ha! I thought you didn't like the scent of heliotrope, Kemistry? Too funny. I've been tempted by the freesia bulbs but figured it was too late at this point. They'd probably fry in the heat that is no doubt just around the corner for us. ;)
This is probably the last day for my Brunfelsia australis bloom. The closest thing I can think of to compare the scent to is grape hyacinth (muscari) though I don't think it's quite as sweet. Still it's only one bloom and I'll probably change my mind when I smell them outside come spring!
I think I should start a thread called 'Still not blooming!'.
At this point I think I'll probably start screaming at my poor plumeria though it will probably abort all its buds should I do that. ;)
On a positive note my Honey Bells (Hermannia verticillata) has lots of flower buds getting fatter by the day so I hope to post pics and let everyone know what I think of its scent when it blooms. :)
Well. HELLO Fenius, Robert, Rosey, Laura, and Kemistry! This is where you have all been hanging out@!
Fenius! Amazing flowers! I can only smell them from here. I wish I had one that looked like that. Mine is in a 2 inch pot.lol
Laura!!! How do you do that!? What kind of treatment do you give your orchid and what food. I have 3 and can't get them to re-flower. Please share. I want mine to reflower so bad. Beautiful and I hoppe you are well:-)
Rosey..I know where you got that plant! I can't wait to see it open. I have one too, but still not even one bud.
Robert..I love the purple! I almost bought one of those. I am still thinking about it. I saw a 6 foot one by 3 feet wide at teh nursery and bot did it smell wonderful and look so pretty. None of the flowers were all the same color. Some were light, pale, white, deep purple and faded all over. It was beautiful!
Kemistry..Where are your pics? I miss them:-)
Here are a few of mine. I don't have the exact name of them but I'll try my best here at work.
Lemon Meyer still blooming
My Orchid that has been blooming for at least 4 months now!
This one, mo God! It is still strong and fills teh air going on it's fourth week of blooming. The flowers have not died with age or lost their potency, one of my faves!
You all know this one. Brunfelsia that has been blooming for about a week now and still has more buds coming.
Variegated Oleander! Oh boy does it smell awesome!
One of the sweetest more potent Jamines.
Grapefruit tree
Orange tree...
Thsi is just a few fragrant flowers for this day. I love it here when all else is dead outside! Thanks
It bloomed!
Now, my life is complete. The plant can die now and I have no regrets, haha. I finally got and maintained a bloom that was not there when I got it...
Yes, this is what my ordeal with gardenias have driven me to. Lower expectations -- easier satisfaction! :-D
Great pictures everyone.
Mike.. love that Oleander's picture. How does it smell like? I know I known.. scent description is so subjective but come on, tell us why it smells awesome so we have even more reasons to go gaga over it. Lol. : )
Sugi .. Congrats on getting your gardenia to bloom. It's pretty. I bet it smells even better than its look : )
Lol Robert don't laugh. Im not fond of the scent of Heliotrope.. i thought it smells like an artificial vanilla scent.. similar to Miss Kim lilac and i'm not fond of that scent either.. but seeing how yours is such a cute little plant I want one too. =P
ROSEY .. I LOVE the scent of Freesia too. If spring has a scent, it probably smells of Freesia. My local nursery has this beautiful primrose that smells just like a freesia.. I"m tempted to get it but alas no more space.
Kemistry, it's hard to eplain..It's a very intense sweet yet light armomatic fragrance, not like anything else I've smelled and yet so appealing to everyone that has smelled it! Everyone wants here around here..lol
It's stingy on flowers because it's winter, but boy does it go hog wild in summer!
Robert????? How in the world do you keep Heliotrope looking nice beyond a month?
Mine always get brown leaf edges that ruin the whole leaf with time, like what Botrytis does to many plants.
What kind of light and care do they need?I love them!
I recognize the winter jasmine, one of your logees finds from the weekend. You are so lucky to have so many plants in bloom right now. I keep waiting for those 3 new plants to blossom, but so far its buds only. I have one gardenia blossom only... I wait and wait... And wait some more. A good practice of patience.
Lilacs.. where? That should happen soon. Love lilacs, ... If the snow ever finishes to melt, spring will truly arrive.
I cry over my rose bushes and all the work to replace them. I'm pretty sure that I lost 2 of them. Both were new plantings from last summer. But the changes to the garden will be drastic, my honeysuckle will find a space to climb up the porch railing. And I'm considering to put the mandavilla out there too, in order to make room for larger pots in my Windows.
I'm also hoping to plant tuberroses this year. Spring, its not long now before well all be outside with dirt up to our elbows. :)
Ugh. Came home and noticed my largest plumie bud aborted. :(
I gently unfurled the petals and left them out over night and snapped this pic this morn.
Has a slight sweet scent.
Guess trying to coax winter inflos on new plumies is harder than it looks. Laugh.
It's supposed to be 83 today so it shouldn't be too long before I can start dragging all the plants out! :)
How sad! And we'Ve been waiting with you. But if she's going outside soon.. can't believe you have 83 temps and we re back in another cold spell with a threat of more snow hanging over our heads... She's sure to fill with blossoms with temps like that
Anyone feeling Irish this weekend? Struck with the urge to suuround yourselves in green? I hope you'll all stay safe, happy st. Paddys!
Thanks, Rosey. It's happened with some of my other young plumerias outside last summer. Think it's just a thing with some of them. :)
We're also getting a cold front. Sunday's high is 49 and Monday night's low is 33 so it's the usual drag 'em out and bring 'em back in routine. ;)
So will you be watching any parades? Dressing up in green?
I guess I should be glad that I haven't taken the plumie plunge yet, it was difficult losing the t cactus blooms when I rotated the pot. I'm still monitoring my 3 hesitant logee plants, buds not blooms. Why it have to take so long?
I wore green yesterday at work, and no one else did. You'd think Boston I would be surrounded by green, but Cambridge, st Paddys seemed to not be on the radar yet. Monday will be another green blouse. This is one holiday I take serious, at least as far as fashion goes.
Show the Irish some love, its fun. Go Irish!
To cold to be out parading. But I may make corn beef n cabbage. A not Irish dish, that's been attributed to the day for some strange reason.
Love everyones pics :) So encouraging to see blooms in the dead of winter. [yes I know its March, but we are having major snow and below -15 temps right now!
I have a few prettys in bloom, some scented :)
This is Little Sun ,Golden Boy, not scented, but a little cutie :)
The Miltonia on the left, scents up the room, and the Gardenia as well [more subtly thoug.
Dend. Love Memory "Fizz" is another real sweet smelling chid
Yay! we can now edit posts, so I'm sneaking in an up close of the milt :)
This post was edited by beetle_2007 on Sat, Mar 16, 13 at 13:17
Beetle! Wowwoow..You caught my eyes and heart with them beauties. I LOVE orchids and I think you know that.
Do you grow them in your home? If so, BRAVO!
What a great job you have been doing. You must love the smells.
Hello Robert:-) Dang I hate that when the flowers abort! I hated it so much, I got rid of most of mine. I couldn't take the torture anymore. I love your plants!
Sorry you lost it Robert. Hopefully, the others will reward you now that the nicer weather is coming.
We are expecting yet ANOTHER snowstorm. Not sure if I can take anymore.
Beetle! Wowwoow..You caught my eyes and heart with them beauties. I LOVE orchids and I think you know that.
Do you grow them in your home? If so, BRAVO!
What a great job you have been doing. You must love the smells.
Thanks so much Mike! :)
Yes they are grown in the home, some on a southern windowsill, and some under lights:) And yes, the scents are what keeps me cheery throu this seemingly endless winter . I know others are experiencing the same dreary conditions, so I won't whine too much LOL .
Flowering here in the uk for March
one of my winter favs always flowers no matter what the weather throws at it and has such a wonderful fragrance
Prunus mume
Then there is of course Lonicera Fragrantissima i find this has a really strong scent for such small flowers
Cycamen fragrant
Miltoniopsis 'cella'
Vanda chocolate fragrance
Blc ta-hisin wonderful large fragrant flowers
Oncidum samurai
Phalaenposis 'sogo relex'
Hoya lacunosa gives off a strong evening fragrance for me
and then a few of the none fragrant ones ;)
hope that is not to many photos :)
We can never have too many pics on this forum!
Thank you for sharing your beauties with us.
You've got quite the collection of orchids!
It's funny that you brought up your prunus. I was just sniffing a native plum to Oklahoma yesterday while walking the dog - Prunus mexicana (Mexican Plum).
It smelled wonderful and I was wondering to myself what is the best smelling plum? :)
Do you know which variety of brunfelsia you have? Could it be Brunfelsia americana?
wow, what a collection of photos to return to after a hectic day (week rather)!! thanks guys, I hope to have smth to add soon.. I also hate the new photobucket, instead of making it easier it is more time consuming now...
I didn't know there were fragrant oleanders or plums, thank you for that! (not!)
Hello Everyone!!
Love all of the pic.. Beautiful..
Kem.. Thank you!! You are always so kind. I can't wait to share my Plumies with you all this season!!! I love these beauties!!! Thanks for your confidence!! ;-)
Robert... Sorry to see the blooms abort. Makes me sad to see. It is so frustrating to wait and then they just fall. My Taj Mahal seems to be one that aborts early for me. I have also heard from others that theirs drop as well. Hmmm...
Mike. We need to get you back on the Plumies.. Wait until you see the new Mini Adenium that i have in a Bonsai container. It is beautiful. I also have started collecting hard to find Arabicums and crosses too! So.. I will have plenty of DR pics for you. The big "boys" are doing well. They are all starting to leaf out and are ready to be raised and have more of the caudex exposed. Im actually looking forward to doing this!!
As far as my Sweet Baby Orchid.. i just have it planted in the gritty Mix and give it Foliage Pro everytime i water.. diluted of course. This one loves the sunshine and the blooms have lasted several weeks and they still look like they will hold on for a while..
Hope all is well with the weather.. You all have had ENOUGH!!! '-)
Fenius... I agree, i never knew there were fragrant Oleanders.. I would love to grow them here in VB. Would they still be as hardy as the ones that i have planted in the ground. Would they be able to handle zone 8?
This is news to me.. I need fragrant ones by the pool!!!
Take care,
Mexican Plum i do not know that one! been searching on google and my old friend ebay , i am sure i can fit one more fragrant plant in somewhere especially if it is flowering now when it is so cold outside and not much else is in flower. Robert it is brunfelsia calycina i also have Brunfelsia Lactea but they are all seedling that germinated last year.
"I think I have orchid envy" well roseyd i have location envy :P you get such a wide range of plants over there in the usa that we just dont get here :( plus your electricity bills are a lot cheaper :)
Yes, I am happy to say I agree about the electricity bills. I normally don't even look at mine. I have it so that it's directly pulled from my account. Well, a few weeks ago, I actually opened the envelope to see what the 18 hour grow lights were doing to my account. I was happily surprised that my bill was only $21. Thank goodness for energy efficient appliances and lightbulbs, right?
I doubt there are many who keep there electric bill as low as mine. The benefit of living alone - is I can shut of lights when I'm not using the rooms. And, I swear I must do most of my living from those plant lights? why put on an overhead if there's a plant lamp making a room bright enough?
But, I have to remember - that this is winter, when electric bills are low for me... come summer, in my hot attic appartment - well, my bill will triple just so that I can sleep at night.
location. Yes, it's all about location. If only you had access to our logees. :)
ps: my African Gardenia is really close to blossoming. There's 5 buds - they've all turned a lovely peach/white shade, and they're already starting to exude a LOVELY scent... but, day 3 and still no sign of opening petals.
This post was edited by roseyd on Thu, Mar 21, 13 at 15:36
Every spring is the only spring - a perpetual astonishment.
Mali Pikul - light jasmine fragrance with hint of camphor?
Jasmine Arabian Knights - Same Jasmine fragrance with pretty and abundant blooms
Stephanotis in bud
Buds on my tiny Grad duke jasmine
Bud on Mysore Mulli
This post was edited by dl99 on Thu, Mar 28, 13 at 21:38
Wow, I love your posts this month!!
here are my latest:
holboellia coriacea filled with insignificant but very fragrant bells!
the first lily of the valley!
my last year's stolen cutting from kew smells like honey, I think it is choisya ternata
classic stephanotis
sedirea japonica
and lastly scilla bifolia rosea which I'm not sure is fragrant ...maybe really faintly
Lovely photos everyone.
Fenius you keep posting such lovely photos & I am sure everyone is tempted
Now I have daphne, Brassavola on my list. Mike, I have been reading your posts on Brassavola. Some compare it to Chanel 5?
Kandhi- Michaelia in a pot! It must be fragrant paradise.
Laura ,beetle - Gorgeous orchids , they bring so much cheer to me.
Robert - Too bad that the plumeria aborted its bud. Are your plants outside? you mentioned 85 F which makes me so sad, it is stlll 40- 50F here.
Kemisty I had freesia but could never appreciate the fragrance. Of course nothing beats tuberose ,do you have any tips for freesia?
dl99 .. amazing sambac!! Mali Pikul smells very sweet, just wait til it blooms during your warmer days! It has that typical sambac scent like all the other sambac but a bit of a 'sourer' note to it, sort of like the sourness of lavender. Or maybe my nose is just weird. Lol.
Feesia corms are so cheap so I just grow them as an annual. Tossed them out when they are done blooming. They smell very sweet to me. Like primroses. A bit of Osmanthus too. I read that the species freesia alba is more fragrant and has a spicy scent? I havent grown it yet. Robert got me interested in it again recently. Maybe next year! : )
Rosey.. I'll stop by the nursery this weekend to find the name of that primose for you ..if they still have it. But I find that most primose smell like freesia anyway. Just get the most fragrant ones you can find! They sure do look cute. And compact. And cheerful. :)
Fenius.. omg.. tell me more about that holboellia coriacea & sedirea japonica plants. Very fragrant? Nice scent? How do they smell like. : )
Okay I'm sold on the Holboellia. Lol. I need to find one.
holboellia coriacea whey another fragrant plant we can actually get here in the uk! :) There are two types holboellia coriacea and Holboellia latifolia the second one seems to be the more fragrant
has any one grown both plants
Argh! You people are killing me!
Now I want both holboellia! Laugh.
I was growing my plumeria inside under lights. We only had one day of 83 and then it got cold. Like real cold. One morning it was 23!
Anyway I shoved the plumie down in the basement with the others. If the inflo doesn't drop maybe I'll actually get some blooms when things warm up and everything is brought outside. :)
Here is a link that might be useful: New holboellia introductions
I'm looking forward to planting soon.
My newest houseplant addictions are: Besides Jasmines/Gardenias...
Cape Primroses (I now have 4 - only one which I've seen flowers on, yet)
Desert Roses (Now up to 2 - and am tempted to keep going...)
Orchids (I am now up to 5? - only 2 are fragrant - and neither of those have I seen blooms yet). I think I may have pestered Mike into giving me a 6th baby when I talked to him last. He was telling about how great one of his smelled and I suggested that if his pot was becoming over-full, I could take on a baby very happily... ((I'm very helpful that way. :) ))
Anyway - only blooming occuring indoors still - are the sweet olive. I thought those jasmines I bought would have opened this month - but they're a tease.
Kemistry you have a gift! No one can match your description of a fragrance.
Yes I detect a sour note in Mali pikul but the pretty blossoms make up for it.
I have been reading up about Freesia, do you think it is the right time to plant in Zone 4, many said they should be planted in late summer/fall?
You learn something new. Holbelia coriacea is mesmerizing,with jasmine like fragrance and abundant flowers, it is a dream.Forest farm & logees have holboellia coriacea but I have to convince myself that they are not plants for pots or in Zone 4 and stop myself from thinking about it.
I am done withTelosma cordata, it was a difficult plant in the winter and eventually passed away.
Robert ,MIke, I hope your telosma plants are doing well.
Whoops! I just realized it was you and not fenius that asked about my plumie. Sorry!
Thanks for asking about my Telosma cordata. So sorry you lost yours. :(
I have mine growing in an extremely fast draining mix consisting of screened pine bark fines and perlite (no peat). I might be over watering a bit since I just noticed some new leaves are yellowish when I snapped this pic for you (it's in the light colored pot on the corner).
I too am a sambac freak. My fav is Belle of India but I also love my Grand Duke and Mysore Mulli. I just repotted my Mysore Mulli into the 5:1:1 mix and in a larger pot. Can't wait to bring it out when the weather warms and inhale the glorious scent of jasmine! :)
Hey robert! What is the purple flower on the left?
ok now I want to find more holboellias,too...the cultivar cathedral bells is much more showy than mine!! not to mention stauntonias which is what I was initially looking for and eventually settled for holboellia coriacea.. where in the uk can I find H. latifolia fragrant2008??? I wander if they ship to greece?
Oh, I grow mine in a planter with other acid loving plants by the way! I was scared of the honeysuckle but they seem to coexist happily so far..
Kem and dl99 holboellia is not heavy like jasmine, it is finer & more clean and crisp but not lemony either, it is rather wonderful and I find it hard to think of similar smelling plants..
Sedirea japonica most say is citrusy but it reminds me more of roses I think..
Happy posting everyone; we want more blooms, only a couple of days left!!
oh, and my tiny twig of prunus mahaleb which I thought had not made it through the winter has 3 buds! I don't think it is of the fragrant prunuses though..
Stop talking about flowers that smell like roses and what not. You're making us add more and more to our lists! :)
The purple flower on the left is Scabiosa columbaria 'Butterfly Blue' (Pincushion flower). I grow it as a short lived annual for the bees and butterflies since the heat normally does them in here.
I've been thinking of you since my night scented stock (Matthiola longipetala subsp. bicornis) has been blooming its head off and wafting in the evenings. How are your babies coming along?
You can see mine in the black round pot on the lower left side of the photo.
Yes indeed they are!! mine are 5-6 messy seedlings with only a couple of true leaves still, I grow them inside but I'm thinking of moving them outside gradually ..if they only grew a little faster ..how long till yours got like this??
I have sown a lot of blue stuff this year in my planters but I missed scabiosa..I have cornflower and linum though! And my supposedly strictly yellow fresias have rurned out red and orange..really.disappointing!
It's taken months from my August sowing to get this big however they spent most of the winter inside. Hopefully you can bring yours out soon (they are frost tolerant) and be able to enjoy them faster than it took me! ;)
Speaking of freesia have you tried Freesia alba? Kemistry and I were talking about this one the other day. It's supposed to be highly scented.
I'm definitely going to have to go bulb shopping. White freesia or yellow freesia's ... both would be a good addition to my flower beds. I wonder if I'd have problems with visitors picking them when I'm not looking? - Just saying - that'd be quite a temptation out in my front yard without a fence.
My tuberoses will be in a pot outside this year. Looking forward to seeing how well they'll do at the bottom of the stairs. Temptations... nothing like temptations at street level. I wish I had a balcony.
Sambac freak, how appropriate for us. Yes Robert,Belle of India is becoming my favorite too, the flowers are so graceful and the smell is intoxicating.
Telosma looks good. I am happy for you Robert. We want pictures when it flowers. I see your Olive is still blooming! It must be heavenly.
Matthiola is a cool season plant? should we sow in Fall to bloom in spring? I am too tired to overwinter another plant.
Went on a freesia hunt & came home with this. I appreciate any input on this plant.
This post was edited by dl99 on Fri, Mar 29, 13 at 19:11
Haha dl99! I too went on a plant search today (holboellia) and came home with a totally different plant. Lol.
My local nursery has Holbelia coriacea..the regular white type and i thought its scent is nice.. a clean, sweet and creamy fragrance. But they have blooming akebia shirobana nearby...and this akebia impresses me with its awesome cinnamon fragrance. But I ended up going home with a blooming gardenia kleim's hardy (and a stevia plant) because I really miss the smell of gardenia. : )
Oh Roseyd, the primrose I mentioned above is called primula x tommasinii 'you and me cream' : )
Oh Robert..forgot to say.. your telosma is really looking awesome! Mine is a bit tragic looking. I find that telosma really hates the cold temp and its leaves getting wet. Mine dropped most of its leaves. But it's finally starting to grow again so that's a good sign.
I'm soo interested in the Sedirea japonica orchid now, Fenius..!!
And here it is.. my new baby:
This post was edited by kemistry on Fri, Mar 29, 13 at 20:58
Evening pic for fenius!
I say sow them indoors now and bring them out when temps start rising. You should have blooms this year!
At first I wasn't that impressed with night scented stock's wafting ability but now that I have more blooms I'm loving it more and more. :)
Yet another gardenia? Laugh.
There's no hope for you but it must smell awesome if it ended up coming home with you. ;)
Hi fenius , you can buy H. latifolia at
http://www.burncoose.co.uk/site/ its one of the best plant nurseries here in the uk but there prices can be a little higher and yes they do ship to European Countries :)
kemistry nice kleim's hardy i to have one of these bought it 3 years ago i find it a lot more easier to grow then other gardenia (i loooove Gardenia fragrance) all the best with your little beauty
Kemistry ,Robert, I was minding my business when my friend pointed me to this package which mentioned that this Daffodil is " exquisitely fragrant"! I couldn't resist.
Anyone have any experience with it. It doesn't need to be chilled so can be planted in early spring to bloom in summer. Reviews on Daves garden have been positive/neutral. Its botanical name is Narcissus âÂÂErlicheerâÂÂ.
I hope it is different than regular paperwhites. I remember Robert grew a chinese variety this season with delightful fragrance.
I grow Gardenias as annuals, they are a pain plus I have to be picky on what I want to overwinter.I lost telosma, aglaia, G.vietnamensis this past winter. I remember when Fenius posted about G.Vietnamensis, it was easy to grow then other gardenias but I could never appreciate a heady gardenia fragrance from them. It was very subtle.But what a lovely pinwheel!
What a lovely picture Robert, you have spring on a table!
Frag2008, thanks for the link, I find I need at least 5 plants from them (till now!)..they are pricey though..
Dl99 I'm so sorry for your losses..unless a miracle happens soon, I'm close to losing my tiny aglaia too plus my cananga odorata that keeps dropping leaves.. I don't understand what's wrong w/ them...
Fragrant2008.. Thanks!! And yes agreed! The hardy gardenia are so much easier to please than those regular ones. I have a Frostproof that has taken some abuses the last 3 years --spidermites, bad root pruning, overwatering, etc.. but it doesn't complain much and at the moment it's full of buds! Can hardly wait for those buds to mature! :)
Robert.. only 2 blooms but it's so fragrant especially at night. WHy haven't you got a gardenia yet??? :0)
Dl99.. I haven't smelled Erlicheer yet but some narcissus do have a nice scent. Keep us updated on yours!
My G vietnamensis did bloom last Fall and the scent was very mild too but I'm sure it was because of the cold temp. The scent will be stronger in Spring/Summer. It has a few buds on it right now so I'll update when it blooms. I find this plant more vigorous and much easier to grow than most gardenia. Have you tried the hardy type of gardenia? There are a few of them out there.
Fenius.. regarding the Cananga, maybe too cold? It really hates the cold temp. My dwarf cananga lost all it leaves during the Winter. I thought I would lose it but I do see a couple of new growth emerging so there's still hope for my plant.
And finally here's my Meyer's Lemon .. This is the one plant that I ignore for most of the time but it doesn't care.
It's been blooming the last 2 months or so. It doesn't get much sunlight so it has only a few flowers but the flowers are huge with a very strong scent. Awesome citrus scent too.


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Data Centers
Although the Federal Data Center Consolidation Initiative promises to save the government billions of dollars in the long run, short-term problems that include possible budget cuts and inadequate information on agency operations could get in the way of meeting the goal to shut down or consolidate 1,186 data centers by 2015.
Gaps in equipment inventories and cost estimates, coupled with poor planning on how to increase efficiency, are making it challenging for agencies to comply with that deadline, said David Powner, director of IT management issues at the Government Accountability Office. Despite incomplete inventories, 24 agencies identified nearly 2,900 data centers and estimated a savings of $2.4 billion from the closure of 1,186 of them, as detailed in a report GAO published in July.
However, the spending needed to implement the initiative threatens to limit the potential savings, Powner said. Completing data center inventories, gauging energy use and paying for consolidation are the biggest challenges for agencies, according to GAO.
"In terms of strategies, it all starts with knowing what you have, so complete inventories are essential for success," Powner said. "Having comprehensive cost estimates and detailed schedules are the key components of data center consolidation plans so that cost savings over [specified] periods of time are clearly known."
The Office of Management and Budget expects agencies to use any savings achieved by increased efficiency to pay for the costs related to consolidation. Those savings will presumably come from reduced spending on real estate, network infrastructure and energy.
The number of data centers keeps shifting as agencies survey their infrastructure and OMB changes what should be counted. Agencies identified 2,900 data centers in September 2011, a figure that is sharply higher than the estimate from OMB of 2,100 centers when FDCCI launched in 2010.
In October 2011, however, U.S. CIO Steven VanRoekel announced that a data center was any room that is "used for the processing and storing of data," a much broader definition than the 500-square-foot minimum set by VanRoekel's predecessor, Vivek Kundra. In December 2011, OMB used that guideline to report that there were 3,133 federal data centers.
Agencies are supposed to file data center inventories on a regular basis, followed by updated consolidation plans and quarterly progress reports. But the reporting effort has fallen short.
"OMB could ensure that future consolidation plans are up to their detailed standards by reviewing them, as GAO did," Powner said.
The Commerce Department was the only agency in GAO's survey that had submitted a complete data center consolidation plan. Prioritizing infrastructure according to capacity, frequency of use and outdated equipment are key factors for practical spending on FDCCI, said Commerce CIO Simon Szykman.
The only agencies to submit complete data center inventories were the Social Security Administration, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, and the National Science Foundation. Those agencies had an easier time of it because SSA has only two data centers and NSF has only one, while HUD has outsourced its IT infrastructure to Hewlett-Packard and Lockheed Martin.
Outsourcing "works for us," said HUD Deputy CIO Mike Milazzo. "For HUD, it was the right thing to do at that time."
The consolidation initiative has had some success. By August, federal agencies had closed 318 data centers since the initiative's launch. FDCCI's current goal is to close another 196 center by the end of fiscal 2013 and the remainder by the end of fiscal 2015.
The next cost-saving step for agencies is to move to virtualization and cloud services. To ensure that users will have quick, secure access to their files, whether they are stored in a cloud environment or at a shared data center, Milazzo said HUD created a test environment to reassure customers of performance standards.
"When we moved data and infrastructure, we made sure there was a backup plan, and we talked to the customers and the engineers all throughout the process so there would be no surprises at the end," Milazzo said.
The next update from agencies to the FDCCI on closure-and-consolidation progress is due Oct. 26, with those results slated for public release on Nov. 9.
Tom Risen is a freelance writer based in Washington, D.C.
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It is absurd statements like the one attributed to Van Roekle "any room that is "used for the processing and storing of data,"" that make the professional Federal IT community cringe or ignore the topic of data center consolidation. By that definition, every staffer with a hard drive containng federal data is operating an agency datacenter. Even Kundra had the sense to set a minimum threshold though his threshold was still rediculously small. Let's bring some common sense to the definition of a datacenter so we can agree on what needs to be consolidated. How about: a datacenter must provide the network and computing infrastructure necessary to service the enterprise needs of one or more business units within an agency. While we are waiting for practical and realistic guidance, I am going to bring my laptop, desktop, tablet and smartphone all to one room and report phase I of my datacenter consolidation is complete. Only 4,000 datacenters in my agency component to go.....
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Red Raider is not foundation of Belmont's tradition or its history
To The Daily Sun,
I have been following the recent controversy at my alma mater, Belmont High School, over our current mascot "The Red Raider" and have been impressed by the students' level of commitment to engage with this controversial issue. The latest development is that the school board has voted that a decision regarding the mascot is best left to the community. I hope when the time comes the community will not replicate the school board's reluctance to act.
It seems the debate over the Red Raider logo has become unduly emotional, devolving into a war between what some see to be as tradition versus political correctness. However, this seems to me a mischaracterization of the issue.
Belmont High School provided me with countless formative experiences upon which I often reflect. When I do, I remember many faces. I remember the faces of my friends, laughing in the cafeteria or suffering in the physics lab. I remember the faces of my teachers, smiling when we asked an ill-advised question and smiling again when we found the right one. I remember the faces of my coaches with furrowed brows as they hoped the bus ride home would be joyous. These are the faces I remember and as I am a recent graduate, at least compared to some (hi Mom and Dad!), they are still quite clear in my mind. But the face I do not remember is that of a caricatured Native-American.
There is a continued trend throughout the nation of eliminating this type of mascot at the urging of Native-American groups. Belmont's logo is not intentionally racist, nor were many of the hundreds of other mascots which were changed. But rallying around a new mascot is a small price to pay for respecting the sensible wishes of a traditionally oppressed minority.
Belmont High School has many faces of which to be proud and its worth does not reside in only one of them. The Red Raider is not the foundation of Belmont's tradition or its history and to believe it is would be to sell our town short.
Trask Roberts
BHS class of 2008
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Ms. Loesch merits commendation for transcribing C-Span video
To The Daily Sun,
I have two commendations to make with respect to former Secretary Of State Clinton's question, "What difference at this point does it make?" before a U.S. Senate Committee. The context is so crucial to understanding the issue that I have clipped pages 6 and 7 of your June 3 issue for future reference.
Bernadette Loesch merits a commendation for transcribing the C-Span six-minute video recording of the committee meeting.
The Daily Sun also merits a commendation for publishing the transcript and making it accessible to your readership.
Thank you Bernadette and Daily Sun,
Bob Longabaugh
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Long as Obama & enablers control Congress, regular Joe's will suffer
To The Daily Sun,
In Saturday's paper, Marty Valengavich came out swinging. . . but struck out again. Trying, as liberals love to do, he distorts facts and history, attempts to assign thoughts to me as though he reads minds, and generally makes himself an apologist and enabler of the worst president in American history.
He tells us Bush lied and invaded Iraq to get their oil and because Saddam Hussein threatened his father. Actually Clinton lied first and so did Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Palosi, Ed Reed and just about every Democrat that could get their faces on TV news. They all said Iraq had WMD and it was not a question of if they would use them it was a question of when, they said. He had already used gas against his Kurdish people and in the Iran war. Then when Bush became president most of these Democrats voted to give him the power to use force, which he did. The Dems have been running as fast as they can away from those votes ever sense.
Marty also challenges me to find any "real lies" Obama has told. Fair enough. Let's disregard my opinion and go to the NY Times, Washington Post, ABC, CBS, CNN and every news source with even a semblance of objectivity, they all say he lies. Benghazi and the YouTube video was indeed a lie. (I said no one had heard of the video not that it didn't exist. You must have missed that.) National intelligence heads testified they knew it was a terrorist attack within 24 hours, but Obama lied about it for two more weeks. (Guess you missed that one too.) And of course there was the famous, "If you like your health insurance you can keep your health insurance period," and same for the doctor, over and over, and over. Sound familiar?
I could go on and on about the letter Mr. Valengavich wrote on Saturday, but I do not wish to belabor the point that it is a crock of left-wing nonsense. I will share the president's latest attack on the economy and the people with readers, though.
In order to appease the "green gang" he will, by executive order (what else, his democratically-controlled Senate voted that bill down when he tried to get it passed by them) to try to kill all the coal-fired electric generating plants in the U.S. When our national growth rate is 0.1 percent he is going to hit the economy with a $17 billion per year deficit.
Folks, the cost of electricity is going to skyrocket and when energy goes up everything goes up with it: food, clothing, shelter, price of oil, propane, cord wood. Who gets hurt here? Not Mr. Obama and his bigwig friends, no sir. It's we the people who will get hurt. If you are elderly, sick, a working family, a single mom or dad your going to get hurt. Will you be able to heat your home and eat? At best this will impact your standard of living, at worst it could threaten the health of your family, and in the worst case cause the deaths of some who will be unable to heat their homes.
The longer this dictator and his enablers control Congress the more regular people will suffer. The harder just living will be for you, unless you're in the 1 percent friends of Obama crowd. November is the last chance to stop the insanity. Vote out every Obama supporter or suffer.
Steve Earle
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You never know what you might learn listening to Niel Young's show
To The Daily Sun,
My husband and I moved away from the Lakes Region five years ago so we could live near our children and grandchildren. We do enjoy spending time with our family, but we also miss many wonderful aspects of living near Laconia.
We are close enough to visit from time to time, and I like the idea that I am able to tune into Laconia's WEZS (1350 AM) to listen to the live stream of "The Advocates" program on weekdays from 9 to 10 a.m., and on Saturdays for four full hours — 8 a.m. to noon. Although it is a "local" program, Niel Young receives calls from many other locations, due to the fact that there is no formula for his program and he covers many different subjects while hosting some very interesting guests. Some of his guests and have been well-known personalities, authors or politicians, both nationally and locally. He's also hosted those who may not be famous, but are very well informed on the subjects about which they speak. One day he might bring in a local chief of the fire department, and another day it might be a journalist, or a U.S. representative from another state.
Niel doesn't spend all of his air time promoting himself. If he is promoting anything, it is the Constitution of the United States. He takes calls, and thoughtfully listens to the callers, being especially attentive to a first-time caller. Only when a caller becomes abusive does he call a halt to the conversation, knowing that most listeners don't want to listen to that.
I'm very thankful for the businesses that sponsor "The Advocates" program. If I must miss a weekday program, I can listen to the podcast before the next day's program, and the podcast of the Saturday program is available for an entire week. If you have never listened to "The Advocates," do yourself a favor and tune in. You never know who you might hear, or what you might learn.
Denise Crompton
Last Updated on Tuesday, 03 June 2014 09:46
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A big 'thank you' to Tilton Home Depot for my new mail box
To The Daily Sun,
Regarding an article by Gail Ober in The Daily Sun on May 10 about vandalism to my mail box, several individuals and Tilton Home Depot responded.
Thanks to Nanette Carpentaer, store manager; Jason Wright, assistant manager; and Lisa Nachbaur, a post was delivered, set in concrete, mail box attached, and paint given to me for my use. I am appreciative of their time and effort as they really did a good job.
As to the vandal, there was no response, and the U.S. Post Office laid my mail aside daily so I could go stand in line for a month to receive it. If the post mistress wishes to encourage others to put mailboxes at curbside, working with individuals might be a better alternative. Now, others who continue to have their mail brought to their door have no incentive to change.
Thanks again Laconia Daily Sun and Tilton Home Depot.
Hazel Zimmer
Last Updated on Tuesday, 03 June 2014 09:43
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Georgetown Walkers - 500 kilometers on foot?
How far would you go for a good cause? How about 500 kilometers... on foot? Bob Maher and Edward Wedler are walking from Yarmouth to Georgetown to get people thinking about how to save rural communities.


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Masticating Juicer vs. Cold Press Juicer?
amipatriaDecember 30, 2013
I'd like to know if these two names refer to the same type of juicer and if not what exactly is the difference?
They mean the same thing. They are the opposite of centrifugal juicers.
I have an Omega J8004 masticating juicer which is great. I think the new Omega model is the NC800 HDS, which I have not tried yet.


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In a recent pair of articles (part I, part II), hedge-fund magnate Cliff Asness defended high-frequency trading against most of the attacks that have been leveled against it. Asness is known for his strong...... (read more)
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Almedia Knight Oliver
Many Rains Ago
The anniversary of your birth we celebrate…
In heat, in snow, and in rain and sleet
America and countries everywhere emulate
Some sighing, others crying, still others swearing and hating long after your death…
I want to tell my memory to hush talking about those old dreams of many rains ago:
Momma told her four girls to be careful of the ones you meet, day in and day out
white men prowled the gravel roads looking for a prey
"Girls, y'all run fast into the woods and hide, and don't come out
until he drives out of sight-or worst stay all night hiding out! "
Memory, keep telling me bout what the old folk said about Emmitt Till's body rising
From the river bottom so swollen 'til nobody could make him out
As bright as daylight, I heard Momma's tears raining hard in her sleep,
And her dreams dreaming loud and deep
"Have mercy on my soul they done killed that boy
I wish his fore-parents had jumped ship many rains ago! '
Now, where can I go, a black widow, five boys, and four girls
Living off black soil and cursing the red clay that can't even make hay
Aside from the soil and red clay, forty acres and a mule, cows and hogs,
and chickens and all can't be moved anyplace! "
The rain slacked up. The arching rainbow still bends toward hope…
Women and men of all colors, celebrate Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday, and his dreams!
Dr. King, many of your dreams have come true, still we're dreaming your dreams: silently and out loud evermore >
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Best way to build shower pan?
Building a new bathroom in my house and could use some input on the best way to do the shower pan.
Is it best to put down tar paper, wire mud then membrane and more mud?
There are two families of thought, both are fine. The most important thing to remember is that your membrane needs to be sloped.
I prefer a topical membrane over a membrane buried between two layers of mud. Simply because it affords better control over moisture within the pan.
Here's the "old way", with the CPE or CPVC membrane buried between two layers of mud. Courtesy of Harry Dunbar.
My preslope is thicker than Harry's, a little over an inch at the drain then sloping up towards the walls. And I don't use latex admix in the mud.
Shifting gears to the "second" method:
With a topical membrane, you can use one sloped layer of deck mud. The membrane gets installed on the sloped mud. Then you tile on the membrane. A couple of types of topical membrane:
You can use Hydroban over sloped mud. If you can get a magic trowel like they use in this video, your installation will be a breeze.
Or Kerdi Membrane over sloped mud.
There are a few other topical membranes, but in general they are intended for use on walls only. To use them on a shower floor requires fiddling with the mud around the drain and the drain itself, etc. Hydroban and Kerdi fully warrant their materials and methods when used as shown above.
If I had to chose a "best way" I'd use Hydroban with the flanged drain.
If I needed "bulletproof vapor control for a steam shower" then I'd use Kerdi.
If you want the "best way to do a CPE/CPVC shower", follow Harry's methods.
One of my shower quotes is for the way it is shown in the "old way" link. In that link, it shows a step where the walls got cement board, but he doesn't show what went behind it. Is either building paper or plastic considered a "good" way to waterproof behind the cement board?


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Chateau Latour 1990
Bordeaux Red Blends from Pauillac, Bordeaux, France
Winemaker's Notes
A monumental Latour, still very young and closed today (June 1997), dark colour, with layers of complex aromas of roasted fruits, liquorice, chocolate, caramel, dark cherry...The mouth has an incredible volume, full and fat, almost perfectly balanced with an endless finish. This exceptional vintage will be at optimal drinking from 2005 and till 2030 and more (?). Should this wine be opened in the 5 next years, a long aeration (at least 2 hours) in a decanter is highly recommended.
Critical Acclaim
Wine Spectator - "This is one of my favorite wines ever. Full-bodied, with layers of silky fruit and masses of currant, mineral and berry character. Amazing. It's a wine with perfect structure, perfect strength. It's 1961 Latour in modern clothes. It's hard not to drink it now. '89/'90 Bordeaux non-blind horizontal. Best after 2008."
International Wine Cellar - "Medium-deep red. Great vibrant nose of redcurrant, licorice, minerals and tobacco, along with a minty austerity. Thick and large-scaled, like an essence of Pauillac. Really explodes in the middle palate. Incredible unfolding peacock tail of a finish. A monumental, powerfully structured wine with great long-term aging potential. Drink 2008 through 2040. "
The Wine Advocate - "This is one of the more perplexing Latours to evaluate. It has plenty of sweetness as well as a gorgeous, rich fruitiness, but it lacks the firmness one finds in more recent great vintages such as 1996, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, and 2008. There is plenty of sweet, ripe currant fruitiness, abundant glycerin, and full body, but I'm still waiting for that extra nuance of complexity to emerge. It's all there, but the wine still seems to be more monolithic than one would expect in a wine approaching 19 years of age. It is not the sure-fire winner I thought it was in its youth, but then again, I don't have any reason to doubt that more complexity will emerge. Anticipated maturity: 2016-2035. 95+ "
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Château Latour Winery
At the beginning of the eighteenth century, Château Latour started to be highly recognized around the world, thanks to the reconquest of the British market and the development of the wine business in Northern Europe. The aristocracy and other wealthy groups of consumers became very enthusiastic about a few great estates, of which Latour was one. And that was how Thomas Jefferson, ambassador of the United States in France, and future President, discovered this wine in 1787. At that time, a cask of Château Latour was already worth twenty times as much as one of ordinary Bordeaux wine.
The reputation of Château Latour was consolidated during the 19th century. It was confirmed in 1855, when the government of Napoléon III decided to classify the growths of the Médoc and the Graves for the International Exhibition in Paris: Château Latour was classified as a First Growth. The existing château was built during this "Golden Age", between 1862 and 1864. View all Château Latour Wines
About PauillacView a map of Pauillac wineries (pouy-YACK)
Home to three premier cru (first growth) chateaux, Pauillac is a leader in quality Bordeaux. Chateaux Latour, Lafite Rothschild and Mouton Rothschild are situated within the Pauillac appellation. Sandwiched between St.-Estèphe and St.-Julien, Pauillac wines are big - known for their combination of elegance and power.
Notable FactsThe gravel-based soils of Pauillac are key in creating the structured wines produced there. Like most of Bordeaux's left bank, Cabernet Sauvignon is the leading grape. Some typical descriptions of wine from Pauillac include: concentrated, full-bodied, powerful, firm tannins, ability to mature. Not all of the Pauillac wines are top price collectibles that you can only find at auctions. There are great values in the lower level crus, like the fifth growth, Chateau Lynch-Bages, as well as great Cru Bourgeois such as Chateau Pibran. These wines are more affordable and often mature a bit sooner.
About France - Other regionsWhen it comes to wine, France is a classic. Classic blends, grapes and styles began in the country and they still remain. Think about it - people ask for a Burgundian style Pinot Noir, they refer to wines as Bordeaux or Rhone blends - Champagne even had to pass a law to stop international wineries from putting their region on the label of all sparkling wine.
The top regions of France are: Bordeaux, Burgundy, Champagne, Languedoc-Roussillon, Loire, Rhone. And these regions are so diverse! It makes sense that wine regions throughout the world try to emulate their style. Pinot Noir, Chardonnay, Cabernet Sauvignon and Syrah are no longer French varieties, but international varieties. They may not be the leader of cutting edge technology or value-priced wines, but there is no doubt that they are still producing wines of great quality and diversity.
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Alcohol By Volume GuideMost wine ranges from 10-16% alcohol by volume. Some varietals tend to have higher (for example Zinfandel and Cabernet Sauvignon) or lower alcohol levels (Pinot Noir and many white varietals), but there is always some variation from producer to producer. Some wine falls outside of this range, for instance Port weighs in closer to 20%, while Muscat and Riesling are usually a bit below 10%.
Wine Style Guide
Light & Crisp
- Light to medium bodied wines that are high in acid and light to medium fruit. Typically no oak.
Fruity & Smooth
- Light to medium bodied wines with lots of juicy fruit, typically medium acid and medium oak.
Rich & Creamy
- Full bodied wines that have typically undergone malo-lactic fermentation and/or spent time in oak.


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Krishna District Judge G. Chakradhara Rao on Thursday explained undertrial prisoners about the 'Plea bargaining' facility, which would allow the accused to plead the court to reduce his actual sentence period. Recently the Plea Bargaining guidelines were included in the CrPC –Section 265 following its amendment .
Addressing the gathering of 68 undertrial prisoners at Machilipatnam Sub-Jail, Mr. Chakradhara Rao made clear that a person who committed a crime and voluntarily confessed to it before the court was allowed to apply for the plea bargaining, through which the award of the sentence can be minimised . After interacting with the prisoners and answering their queries, he promised them that lawyers would be asked to visit the jail to extend legal aid. District Legal Services Authority (DLSA) has presented several Telugu Books on Law and Acts to the prisoners. District DLSA secretary Ch. Raju and senior lawyer L. Balaji and others also spoke.


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Emerging evidence, including an extensive review by the European Food Safety Authority, suggests a wide range of health effects of curcumin, the pigment that gives the curry spice turmeric its yellow color. Robert A DiSilvestro, from Ohio State University (Ohio, USA), and colleagues enrolled 19 healthy men and women, ages 40 to 60 years, in a four-week long study. Subjects received a supplement containing 80 mg curcumin, daily; an age-matched group of 19 other subjects were given placebo and served as controls. The researchers found that curcumin supplementation significantly lowered plasma triglyceride levels, lowered salivary amylase while raised salivary radical scavenging capacities, raised plasma catalase activities, lowered plasma soluble intercellular adhesion molecule levels, and increased plasma nitric oxide. The study authors conclude that: Collectively, these results demonstrate that a low dose of a curcumin-lipid preparation can produce a variety of potentially health promoting effects in healthy middle aged people."
Robert A DiSilvestro, Elizabeth Joseph, Shi Zhao, Bomser Joshua. "Diverse effects of a low dose supplement of lipidated curcumin in healthy middle aged people." Nutrition Journal 2012, 11:79, 26 September 2012.
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Researchers from the University of Alberta (Canada) found in 2005 that for 90% of the population, keeping the brain sharp as we age can be as simple as being and staying mentally inquisitive. The team found that people who are curious at a young age are more likely to be mentally active, and stay that way, as they age. In addition, people in their 70s and 80s who started incorporating activities to improve mental capacity at those ages could enjoy similar benefits to brain health. Some of the best activities that keep the mind active and curious include: reading, traveling, memorizing poetry, playing card games, doing crossword puzzles, learning how to play a musical instrument, taking classes, and surfing the Internet.
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8:30 PM ET, August 17, 2012
ROSEMONT, Ill. -- Angel McCoughtry scored 25 points to lead the Atlanta Dream to an 86-76 win over the Chicago Sky on Friday night in the teams' return from the Olympic break.Erika DeSouza had 19 points for Atlanta (10-10) in her season debut after sitting out to play for Brazil's national team. Lindsey Harding added 15 points and Sancho Lyttle 14.The Dream outscored the Sky 52-30 in scoring in the paint, and coach Marynell Meadors and Harding credited DeSouza's presence for the disparity."It was more than just her points tonight," Harding said. "It was her defense. I think she did a great job on Sylvia, which is a really hard thing to do. We need that big, center presence and I feel like we were missing that in the first half of the season."Epiphanny Prince scored 16 points in her return to Chicago's lineup after being sidelined since mid-June with a foot injury. Sylvia Fowles had 13 points while Le'Coe Willingham added 11 for the Sky (8-10).Chicago was 7-1 at the time of Prince's injury and struggled in her absence. Even in her first game back, the Sky lost their fifth straight."She means a lot to this team," Fowles said. "Just to have her back is a blessing and hopefully she gets back to the full recovery and what she had. For the most part though, she looked good and I'm happy to have her back."Prince shot 5 for 11 from the field, including 4 for 8 on 3-pointers, in a little more than 28 minutes."My foot feels OK. It doesn't hurt anymore so that's a good thing," Prince said. "I feel like I blended in too much. In the fourth quarter, seven or so minutes went by and I didn't demand the ball until three minutes left. While they were executing, we were forcing things and turned the ball over too many times."Chicago led 61-59 entering the final quarter and 72-71 with 4 1/2 minutes to play. However, McCoughtry's putback gave Atlanta the lead for good at 73-72 with 3:13 remaining."We had the lead a lot during the first three quarters but I really thought we played really good down the stretch," Meadors said. "The last four to five minutes, we played some really good basketball and had some really good stops while being able to score."Swin Cash had seven points as the Sky opened a 19-16 lead. The Dream surged back with a late 10-0 run that included a three-point play by McCoughtry and two baskets by Harding on the way to a 26-21 advantage by quarter's end.McCoughtry scored nine points in the second quarter to help Atlanta maintain a slim lead late in the half. The Sky pulled to 42-40 on Cash's rebound shot, but McCoughtry closed the period with a pair of free throws for a 44-40 halftime edge."It was a really good game," McCoughtry said. "We have a good team. We know that it's the end of the season and that every game counts and everything is important so we knew we had to come out and play the way we did."The Sky reclaimed the lead at 55-53 on Sonja Petrovic's jumper and maintained a two-point lead after the third quarter, but were outscored 23-15 in the fourth.
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Team Stat Comparison
|FG Made-Attempted
|34-71 (47.887)
|28-60 (46.667)
|3P Made-Attempted
|3-13 (.231)
|8-18 (.444)
|FT Made-Attempted
|11-13 (84.615)
|12-16 (75.000)
|Rebounds (Offensive-Total)
|Fast Break Points
|Fouls (Tech/Flagrant)
|15 (0/0)
|15 (1/0)
Top Performers
Points: 25
Reb: 8
Ast: 6
Stl: 5
Blk: 2
Points: 16
Reb: 3
Ast: 3
Stl: 3
Blk: 1
Game Leaders
2012 Regular Season Series
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