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Fall usually signals the end for barbecue season in Johnstown.
Not anymore, Tom Rohde says.
The Johnstown area man plans to open Rohde's Roadhouse BBQ next week in Asiago's former Bel Air Plaza home in Geistown.
And inside the restaurant's rustic walls, the aroma of slow-smoked barbecued ribs, pulled pork and beef will soon fill the air, Rohde said.
"We're going to be a full-service, seven-days-a-week barbecue," said Rohde, who hopes to fill what he calls a culinary void in the Johnstown area.
"It's comfort food. It's what makes cookouts and tailgating special. We want to give people a chance to enjoy it without having to put in all the hard work at home."
Rohde and his family have spent the past month working to give the restaurant a roadhouse look.
Asiago's crisp white Mediterranean design has been replaced by wood panels and window shutters for a "down-home" look.
Rohde says a wagon wheel will be converted into a chandelier.
It'll match the menu, he added. BBQ staples like homemade chili with corn bread and barbecued chicken will join other traditional items like ribs and pulled chicken, he said.
Homemade baked beans, potato salad and coleslaw, as well as fresh-cut fries and chips also will be offered as sides.
Rohde says he and his future son-in-law, Mitchell Hill, will be behind the restaurant's smoker and grill, fixing up dishes "the way grandma used to make them."
Through their partnership with Shananagan's and the site's owners, the McQuaide family, they will also serve beer at the eatery.
arbecue items will be available at the adjacent bar, as well as Shananagan's wings and other menu items in their restaurant, he added.
The family restaurant will initially employ 10 to 15, he said, including his wife, Leann, who will handle the restaurant's service side.
The restaurant seats up to 51 people.
Rohde said he expects to have a soft opening Tuesday and then roll out delivery service and other offerings in the weeks to follow. An Oct. 5 grand opening is planned.
He is also planning special events for the warmer months, such as outdoor barbecues and tailgates on Shananagan's patio.
"This is a dream come true for me," he said. "I've always wanted to have a restaurant of my own, and to be able to partner with an established entity like this one, everything is just falling into place."
A restaurant website is still in the works but the eatery already has a Facebook presence under the Rohde's Roadhouse BBQ name.
David Hurst covers Richland Township for The Tribune-Democrat. Follow him on Twitter @tddavidhurst.


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1964 was the last time Cleveland won a title in a major sport. The team that won it was the Browns, and their victory pre-dates the Super Bowl; a game which is now signified by Roman Numerals so large, that even most of us who understand Roman Numerals occasionally have to scratch our heads trying to figure out what new letter will be introduced on any given year.
1948 was the last Indians team to win the World Series. To give you an idea of how long ago that was, neither man running for President in 2012 would have any memory of that. Mitt Romney was just one year old, and Barack Obama was not yet a sperm.
The Cavaliers have never won the NBA Championship. I don't have any hackneyed quip about that; unless you want me to say the words "LeBron James," in which case the joke is on me for believing he would stay here.
In those near-fifty years of failure to reach the pinnacle of sport (Hector Marinaro and the Cleveland Crunch aside), legends of the city have come and gone. Coaches have come and gone. Owners and stadiums have come and gone. Hippies, disco, Zubaz, Hypercolor t-shirts, slap bracelets, boy bands, and the VHS tape have pretty much come and gone.
Have I sufficiently covered just how long it's been?
In that time, though, Cleveland fans have never lost hope. In fact, I would argue, they've gotten a little too hopeful, and lost a little bit of common sense and perspective. But when you're buying Rick Vaughn jerseys off the internet because the ending of Major League constitutes one of your city's great sports successes, your acuity for fact goes a little haywire.
Often, I wince when I hear our sports fans' short-sightedness on WKNR, or other sports media outlets. I try to be a very logical person, and I often do my best to step back, attempt to look at problems objectively, and solve them. That's not to say I'm not often incorrect in my solutions—but (believe it or not from my other ) I try to arrive at them devoid of any emotion (save indignation). But lately, I'm combining my logical approach to how I would solve our teams' problems with a little fantasy.
So I am proposing that Cleveland sports fans blindly, and without any logic whatsoever, turn over all major sports decisions to me. And, because I am delusional (or because I need a transition to keep this piece going), I am gladly accepting that heretofore unparalleled position in sports.
Yes, being the overlord-GM of three sports at once is a dream come true for any sports fan. Thankfully, you the great fans of this weary city (who live in my head) have decided that, after Frank Lane, Dwight Clark, Chris Palmer, Pat Corrales and Ten Cent Beer Night, that we could do no worse turning over the major decisions of our franchises to a guy with absolutely no sports experience (outside of selling peanuts at Wrigley Field) whatsoever.
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2) The Cleveland Indians will put forth as consistent a daily lineup as humanly possible. I realize injuries and other factors make that difficult. But there is (albeit slight) statistical evidence that teams with fewer lineups tend to win more games. And God knows we have a young team that hits (at best) inconsistently. This helps them with that. Give these kids a stable lineup, batting order, and playing time—and then figure out who stays and who goes to the minors next season. Everything else seeks to sabotage the mental-and-confidence portion of a young hitter's approach to the game. Hell, inconsistency at work affects everyone. If you didn't know what day or time you were going into work, or what position you'd be working at when you got there, how long would it take you to be consistently good in your field?
3) As for the Cavs? Yikes. Let's just keep building a team through drafts and rooting against the Heat.
I know, I know. You're already grumbling about my theories on how to fix our sports teams. So, I am resigning my position, effective immediately, after roughly 800 words on the job.
But if I might leave one more legacy to the (seemingly endless) history of sports failures in our city, let me say this: Please be more patient with our sports teams. They're just not very good. And you can't fix that with Charlie Sheen and a running time of 107 minutes.


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Open Thread: 2010 HOF BallotBy
Amidst the Black Friday madness, the 2010 Hall of Fame ballot was released to the public this year, as 15 new names joined the 11 holdovers from last year. Here's the list, via the self-proclaimed Worldwide Leader…
Roberto Alomar, Kevin Appier, Harold Baines, Bert Blyleven, Ellis Burks, Andre Dawson, Andres Galarraga, Pat Hentgen, Mike Jackson, Eric Karros, Ray Lankford, Barry Larkin, Edgar Martinez, Don Mattingly, Fred McGriff, Mark McGwire, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Tim Raines, Shane Reynolds, David Segui, Lee Smith, Alan Trammell, Robin Ventura, Todd Zeile
Players in bold are the holdovers. Blyleven and Dawson were far and away the closest to being voted in last year, coming in at 63% and 67%, respectively (75% is required for enshrinement). I'd vote for Alomar, Blyleven, Larkin, Martinez, McGwire, Raines, and Trammell, but that's just me. I'll defend my picks in the comments, if anyone dares to challenge me.
Who would you vote for?
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Here's your open thread for the evening. The Rangers are in Tampa, the Knicks are in Denver, and The Quest For 0-82 continues in Sacramento. Talk about whatever you want, just make sure you follow the guidelines and be cool.
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Everyone will probably say something about mcgwire and how he doesn't deserve to make it due to steroids but he used a legal substance, or at least was caught with a legal substance, had 500 homers, and was one of the best players in baseball for a solid 5-10 year period
Robin Ventura gets my vote for getting epically pwned by Nolan Ryan
Blyleven, Raines, and Edgar for sure. I could definitely be convinced for Trammell and/or Larkin.
Add McGwire to the list of people receiving my vote.
Alomar, too. I need to read more carefully.
The votings a joke, how does Blyelevin not get in after all these years, while Ozzie Smith gets in on a first ballot? Yeah I'll take a hit on that one, I'm not saying Smith doesn't belong, I'm saying 1st ballot inductions belong to players like Ricky Henderson, Mays or Arron, not a relatively light hitting glove man like the cuddly Wizard. While guys like Blyelevin, and Kaat don't get taken seriously.
Remember, the guys who vote for the players are the same ones who ignored steroid use, starting in the mid 90′s, until they all of a sudden got religion , and were, shocked, shocked I tell you, when they "found out the players were using". These hypocrites are the gatekeepers to the hall.
Why does it matter which ballot you get in on? If you're a HoF caliber player you're a HoF caliber player.
The "first ballot player" thing is overblown and one of the most irritating thoughts put into ballots.
Whats the case for Alomar? And Edgar Martinez, I think they should be in, But I want to hear it from other people here, ie, stats, etc lol
Case for Alomar? Um, he's Roberto Alomar. Case closed.
"Whats the case for Alomar? "
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"I don't know who Toronto will wind up with," a major league executive said Friday. "I don't know when he is going and I don't know where he's going.
"But I do know that Halladay has told the Jays he'll approve a trade to the Yankees."
A Minnesota Twins official confirmed in July that Halladay would not approve a deal to the Twin-Cities and Texas Rangers president Nolan Ryan said in September he was told Halladay would block a deal to Arlington, Tex.
Halladay has never said yeah or nay to the Yanks and still hasn't, but this third party news clears the decks for Halladay to follow the path of Cone and Clemens.
I love how we've now officially dubbed it "The Quest for 0-82″
I would vote for the same seven but think that Edgar, Larkin, and Trammell are somewhat borderline.
Marlins Looking To Deal Josh Johnson
By Zach Links [November 27 at 6:20pm CST]
The Marlins are "very willing" to trade Josh Johnson for the right package, according to John Perrotto (via Twitter). Just a few weeks ago, it seemed as though the Marlins intended on signing the 25-year-old ace to a multi-year deal.
The 6'7, 250 lb righty is arbitration eligible and due for a big raise from the $1.4MM he earned last season. Johnson earned a trip to the all-star game in his best campaign to date, registering a 3.23 ERA with 8.2 K/9.
Alright Cash. Get to work on it!
Offer Joba Chamberlain, Ivan Nova, Man-Ban, & Austin Romine.
Am I the only one who isn't sure the Marlins will really want Joba or Hughes?
Why not?
Seems like they're a little too close to arbitration for Florida's style. And they're more known for shipping pitchers out than locking them down. What are they going to do with a guy with a couple of years service time who's still probably a year away, at least, from being a legitimate top of the rotation pitcher?
I think they'd be more interested in Nova and Mcallister, and we'd definitely have to give up Montero.
Seems that way, but Cots has Hughes with 1.125 years of service time, with Joba at 1.055. Doesn't make sense to me either, but here it is.
Joba was on the roster all of this year and all of last year no? He has to have at least 2 years.
Service time in years & days (through 2008 season).
I'm with Mike A, if I'm going to deal away top prospects I want to do it for a guy like him before Halladay.
But lets go a step further with this. Lets say Montero+ package gets you Halladay, but a Montero+Joba/Hughes is needed to land Johnson. Which one you go for?
I wouldn't even consider giving up Montero for Halladay. And I'm very much pro-Halladay.
I'd prefer Johnson to Halladay, although ideally I'd like to see him have another productive season.
It was reported today their #1 need is a catcher. Montero+ could very well get it done. I understand that he will be a very productive bat, but straight up for one of the best pitchers in Baseball is something I would do. I wouldn't do him with Hughes or Joba, but alone I would.
Montero looks like about as close to a sure thing with the bat as there is, and he might play a position at which major offensive production is rare. If we're giving him up, it has to be for someone at the front end of their prime. I like Halladay, and on the whole I'm in favor of acquiring him, but a 33 year old pitcher doesn't give you enough value, IMO, to justify trading Montero.
Montero's value right now, while there's still a chance of he being a catcher in the Bigs, might be as high as it ever is. Capitalizing on that by getting a player of JJ's caliber is a smart move.
I'd be willing to deal Montero for Johnson. Not Halladay though.
Agreed. You figure that if whomever we give up turns out to be halfway decent they'll probably be back on the Yankees in a few years any way when the Marlins can't afford to re-sign them!
You make a fair point, and I'm not saying you're wrong. I've already stated in this thread I prefer to trade for Johnson.
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I'd vote for Alomar, Martinez, Larkin, Raines, Blyleven, McGriff, and McGwire. I'd like to hear your case for Trammell.
Tim Raines, Bert Blyleven, Roberto Alomar, Mark McGwire, Barry Larkin, and probably Alan Trammell. I need more time to think about Edgar Martinez but I'm leaning no.
There's a bunch of Tweets and stories from Jordan Bastian of MLB.com that shed some light on what the Blue Jays will likely be looking for in a prospective Halladay deal. First, he has a story up on MLB.com saying that the Blue Jays are likely to lose Catcher Rod Barajas this off season. They plan on offering him arbitration, but it appears he has a multi-year deal elsewhere. He also quotes Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos on his Twitter, saying in reference to the Barajas situation:
"We're going to keep the dialogue open. But, right now, I don't see there being good chances of Rod coming back."
He later Tweeted that Travis Snider has been told he will have to earn a spot on the Jays' roster during spring training, leaving the possibility of an opening in the outfield as another hole that would need to be filled. Finally, he sums up the info with a quote from the Blue Jays GM
Anthopoulos: No. 1 need right now is at catcher, but Jays are also looking for help in the outfield.
My first impression is that this is an attempt to draw the Yanks in to the bidding, having a plan in place for their Catching position next year that could very well be bringing Barajas back on a 2 year deal. But any good GM has a series of contingency plans, so there's nothing really 'skull and dagger' about that. So I'll take all of this on face value.
This means a few things right away. First, the Red Sox are not as good a match as we initially thought. Casey Kelley is too far away and the don't have any good catching prospects anywhere near the level of what the Yanks have to offer. The Phillies are an excellent match, maybe the best of all. They could do a Drabek/Brown package and blow everyone else out of the water. But are they willing? Coming as close as they did this season, and being a pitcher (or two) short of winning it all, you'd have to think they are. But Phillies GM Ruben Amaro has shown a willingness to go for lower cost options, opting to pass on Halladay and go for Cliff Lee last Season at the trade deadline. His two top prospects may be more than he's willing to give.
Next, we can start drawing up packages that suit the Jays needs while avoiding giving up the kind of multiple high ceiling talents and/players on the current 25 man roster that most Yankee fans want to avoid for a single year of Halladay's services. Offer a package that fits their needs directly, but without giving up Joba or Hughes. A Montero package would be one where you look to give up less around him, since he's such a high-upside bat that is almost MLB ready. Some combination of Jesus Montero or Frankie Cervelli, Austin Jackson or Brett Gardner or Melky Cabrera, and one of our AAA arms like Zach McCallister, Ian Kennedy or Ivan Nova. I'm not going to speculate on specific packages since they instantaneously become Pinatas, and I'm sure we all have opinions on which combination is too high and which is too low to get it done. But the point is we are a good match for the Jay's needs both in terms of position(s) and MLB readiness.
So the question becomes, would you be willing to give up a bat like Jesus Montero (with some other useful MLB players) for an arm like Roy Halladay? If one high upside prospect gets it done, I'd have to think the answer is yes.
One high upside prospect? Yeah, I'm down with that. If the deal included Montero, however, I would be tentative to offer anything else of much value in the trade package.
Exactly, the rest of the package could be MLB ready (Nova/IPK/Gardner/Melky) but nobody you'd lose sleep over.
I'd lose sleep over Montero, I think he's going to be tremendous. But Halladay is a great pitcher, you have to give something up.
This is all assuming there's the contract window so we can give Doc a very large amount of money in return for the guarantee of his services for the next 4 or 5 years.
But yeah, you gotta do what you gotta do. From the impression I'm getting, Montero is like a 50/50 chance at sticking at catcher. His bat is a sure thing but where he will actually play is still up in the air. Selling him now while his value is as a catcher is a smart thing to do if you're getting the right piece back in return.
Making him the centerpiece of a big JJ deal is a better idea but him as the only major part to get Doc in return is also worth doing.
Selling him now while his value is as a catcher is a smart thing to do if you're getting the right piece back in return.
Excellent point. Had we stuck him at 1B/LF 3 years ago, his value wouldn't be as high. Yet that may very well be his natural position, and therefore not a fit for us long term.
If it's going to hurt, I wouldn't sign him.
No way I'd give up Montero.
Roberto Alomar, Bert Blyleven, Andre Dawson, (maybe) Edgar Martinez, Fred McGriff, Dale Murphy, and (maybe) Tim Raines get my vote
*would get my vote
Oh and Fred McGriff. What sucks is Crime Dog is going to be left out 'cause he didn't hang around to hit seven more homers.
It would suck more if he had hit 7 more and got in because of that.
My point is that voters will likely just glance and say "No 500 HRs? Not in!" I bet if he did get to 500, though, they'd say "Oh, he just stuck around to get 500. Not in."
I'll reach (again) my boiling point if Blyleven gets passed up again. It's ridiculous.
Raines pisses me off more, but yeah. I'm starting to think Blyleven is a big-dick-standoff topic with the round number, wins and RBIs voters.
Now, as I'm only 22, I never saw the dude's playing days. Did he do something to piss the writers off and is that why they won't vote him?
They don't want to vote him in because he doesn't have some of the big counting numbers, but that's because he was on bad teams and never got a lot of run support. If you try to look at how good _he_ was, it's clear that he was among the best ever, but his teammates were often not that special.
Also, there's the black coke versus the white coke (Molitor) thing.
I agree, Fred McGriff is on my list and has got to get in. First ballot. He led (twice) or nearly the league in HRs for years but then his yearly HR totals — remaining at the same level that sufficed to lead the league previously — were surpassed by sluggers hitting in the 50+/year range, the McGwires, Sosas and lesser known players. You can never know if a player like McGriff used PEDs or not, but I hadn't seen anything reported that links him to steroids. Given the contrast between skyrocketing HR totals for McGriff's peers and his consistent levels, to not let him in would seem to be rewarding confirmed or suspected steriod users.
If you sidestep the steroid-related reasons, he still deserves to get in because of the 493 HRs and 2400+ hits, which were enough to get Jim Rice in. And McGriff has a WS ring with Atlanta.
*or nearly LED the league
By the way, Gawker's tapping Jeter for Sportsman of the Year
I'd do a Joba topped package for Johnson in a hot second.
Yeah, if there's anyone I'd trade top guys for, it's Josh Johnson.
Halladay to Boston and Johnson to NY would be the best I've felt about our front office approach versus theirs in a long, long time.
It would be like the opposite of them getting Schilling and us getting RJ.
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Over due: Bert Blyleven, Lee Smith and Andre Dawson
Deserving in first year: Roberto Alomar and Barry Larkin
Someday but not this year: Mark McGwire and Edgar Martinez
Too close to call: Tim Raines, Jack Morris and Alan Trammell
Love him but the door stays closed: Harold Baines, Dale Murphy, Don Mattingly, Andres Galarraga and Dave Parker
Lee Smith?
Dawson in but Raines is too close to call?
The case for Lee Smith: 7 time AS, 4 times in top ten CY voting (once as a runner up), 11 30 save seasons, 4 times led league in saves, 478 saves are 3rd all time and one of only 4 with 400+ saves, 8.73 SO/9 innings, 2.57 SO/balls. Gossage had over 100 less saves and their ERA and whip are basically identical (ERA-Goose 3.01, Smith 3.03; whip-Goose 1.23, Smith 1.25) Can't fault the guy for playing on bad teams. It is fair to say he was dominant during his career.
Why Dawson over Raines:
Dawson was ROY, 8 time AS, MVP, 8 time gold glover, 4 time silver slugger, 400+ hr, 1500+ rbi, 300+ sb, 2700+ hits, averaged 98 rbi/yr over career. He was one of the best players during his career and a true 5 tool guy.
Raines was a great player but 1 fewer AS appearance, no MVP, no ROY, 1 silver slugger, no gold gloves, he did led the league in batting once, he did the league in OBP once, and we know about his steals. He definitely could hit but still had 100 less hits than Dawson and he could steal a base but in 23 seasons even in his area of note he led the league 4 times.
Dawson could take over a game in more ways than Raines and was simply the better, more complete player.
My HOF votes would go to Robbie Alomar and . . .and . . . ugh.
-I'd love to say Edgar Martinez but I value fielding and therefore have to penalize a DH, especially one who doesn't have any of the magic numbers.
-Raines is close, but is the type of guy who will wait to get in on a weak year, like Gossage did. He's borderline, so I'm in no rush to put him in either way.
-Bert Blyleven is a no. I saw him pitch, and never thought of him as being outstanding. Struck out a ton of guys, had good control but was very hittable with his fastball. Way too many of his numbers are too weak for me. He's 136th in adjusted ERA, 260th in H/9 IP, 127th all time in WHIP. Everything except the SO totals doesn't make the cut for me. You should be top-50 in at least a few categories, preferably 3-4. His 287 wins are high, but so are his 250 losses. The numbers confirm what I saw, he just wasn't a great pitcher. He was a very good pitcher that lasted a long time.
He's also a black ink/grey ink guy. If you look at the typical standards for HOF election, he falls short. If you dig through his peripherals, you can make a case. But I always wonder what they'll put on his plaque. A plaque filled with rate stats may be interesting, but would make a lousy plaque. If he's great, you should be able to explain it in plain English.
Dammit, I just had a whole response all typed out and it got lost.
I knew you would, we've debated this before.
Matt, make me a Bert Blyleven plaque. Maybe that will convince me.
Here goes:
An incredibly durable pitcher, Bert pitched a remarkable 4,970.00 innings across 692 games, 685 of them starts, amassing 3,701 strikeouts, 60 shutouts, and 242 complete games in a long 22 season career. Throughout his career, Bert was a model of consistency and longevity.
See that's the thing. We know he pitched a long time (which is significant) but there's too much quantity there and not enough quality. Thanks for the effort, but I'm still not in the Bert column.
How about:
Category (top ten times)
As for the wins, Blyleven got 3.77 runs of support a game. Even for his era (/alexgonzalez'd), that was shitty. It's estimated, by Rich Lederer (I'd link the article but I think it set off the spam filter last time; it's from ESPN, though, so I'm nto sure why) that if Blyleven got even average run support, his record would be something like 313-224, rather than 287-250.
I'm glad, though, that you're not supporting Morris. People who support Morris and not Blyleven annoy me.
I am in the Blyvelen camp. He was trill.
I'm glad, though, that you're not supporting Morris. People who support Morris and not Blyleven annoy me.
Hahahah! Yeah, I don't put either one in. But I'm a hard marker, I think too many guys are in already who I wouldn't have voted for.
BTW-Your 2nd post was much more persuasive. But I'm still not there.
Well, to be fair, my first post was just the plaque, per your request. I'm not sure who writes that/how they decide what gets on. That'd be a cool job.
So…the argument is "plaques have counting numbers on them. Blyleven doesn't have the counting numbers that I like, so he shouldn't be in the hall of fame."
If his teammates had been better hitters, he'd have those numbers (in addition to the ones that actually say something about his ability to pitch). That's a reason to keep him out of the hall?
On the bottom of the plaque:
PS: he had the best curveball in the game for years (just saying)
My mom saw Blyleven pitch and she saw him as a dominating force.
Anecdotes wooo.
I agree with putting McGwire in but Mike, can you honestly admit that you favoring him to get in has NOTHING to do with A-Rod being outed?
How did Edgar Martinez not win the AL MVP in 1995 when he hit .356? Mo Vaughn?
I wouldn't vote for Edgar, but his OPS+ is top 50 all time. Which is pretty amazing.
I'd vote for him. He's the greatest DH of all time, the stat you just mentioned and the fact that Mo says he was the toughest batter he ever faced.
I'd vote for …
Alomar, Blyleven, Larkin, McGwire (and then apologize to the guy for not getting him in sooner), Raines, and Trammell (pretty much Mike A's ballot minus Martinez)
Edgar Martinez is the most fun guy to talk about. He had 7 core, monstrous years from 1995 – 2001 and a few other high quality seasons, but I'm a small hall guy and I just need more out of a DH to put him in there.
He's the best DH that ever played the game – assuming we put Frank Thomas in the 1B category – but I think a guy needs to be like, one of the top 15 hitters of all time to be considered if he didn't contribute defensively.
but I'm a small hall guy and I just need more out of a DH to put him in there.
He's the best DH of all time. If you won't put Gar in there, you are pretty much flatly against the inclusion of DHs.
Well, I am pretty much flatly against the inclusion of all DHs that have played the game thus far, yes.
I'm not innately disinclined towards putting a DH in the HOF, he just has to be good enough. Its a tough call on Edgar, I will give you that. He's borderline.
The problem is he was almost exclusively a DH. Other guys like Frank Thomas/Jim Thome/Paul Molitor played positions for many years earlier in their career before settling in at DH later on.
If someone is just a DH, they have to blow me away to make up for the fact that they contributed nothing defensively, otherwise it's not fair to everyone else who played the field that is borderline. Edgar was a great hitter, one of the best I've seen. But so was Don Mattingly for a 5 year period, as well as a great glove. But Don doesn't make the cut, either. I think you have to factor in everything.
Gar played longer than Donnie and, by extension, had a longer peak
Mike: Larkin and Trammell? Really?
I hate that ESPN is the "worldwide leader"….I wonder if they actually are, I'm sure it's a subject you could do a lot of research on
Eric Karros' hair should have a special wing in the HOF.
The HOF is totally worthless to me anyway. Rabbit Maranville is in the HOF but Pete Rose isn't. It doesn't matter.
Hahahaha…"Rabbit Maranville"
He was good, very good, but HOF? Please.
Guidry should've made it. And I am in the Mattingly camp.
No to Guidry. He didn't do it for long enough, IMO. The same goes for Mattingly. He had a great peak, but his career wasn't brilliant all the way through.
Buck O'Neill should be in, too.
I just realized that my comments are kind of contradictory. I just said Maranville wasn't good enough, but I'd vote in Guidry and Mattingly.
My response, to myself: Guidry did not pitch long, but he was absolutely outstanding, a great, great pitcher.
As for Mattingly, he may not have had his peak for long enough, but it was an epicly good peak. You also have to remember that even in his non-peak years he wasn't bad most of the time and he played historically great 1b defense.
Maranville was always just very, very good. Never really great.
If Guidry had pitched more years, I think he'd have more of a case. He could be like a Blyleven Lite with more innings, but he just didn't do it for very long.
Mattingly was very good, but again, he just didn't do it for long enough.
If you wanna go for an undeserving candidate, I'd go Kirby Puckett. Though the eye thing was out of his control, it still happened and, like Mattingly w/his back injuries, he can't be credited for years he didn't play.
I know but again, Guidry at his peak had one of the greatest single seasons of all time. An ERA below 2 and 25 wins, holy shit. And when he wasn't historic he was just really, really good. Short career, but still a really good one.
I think you need to take Mattingly's defense into account as well, it was historically good. Plus he had those what, 3 great years and then his years that weren't great were still pretty good.
One great single season doesn't make you HOF worthy. Guidry's career was quite strong but the fact that it was so short hurts him. Part of being a HOFer is doing it for a long time.
Plus he had those what, 3 great years and then his years that weren't great were still pretty good.
I think this makes my argument more than it makes yours. Three incredible years then a bunch of above average ones don't make you a hall of famer.
I disagree. It means he was always one of the best performers in the league, and for a while he was THE best.
About whom are you talking? "A while" doesn't mean much if it's 3-5 seasons. If it's 8-10 seasons, then, yeah, that means something. But a great period of three years followed by above average seasons for Donnie doesn't do it. The same goes for Guidry. He had some absolutely brilliant seasons but he also had a bunch that were just above average. If he had done it for longer, he'd have a much, much stronger case but his short career really hurts him.
Probably best to not use Ws as a qualifier for how good of a season someone had, they're not an accurate way to quantify how good of a pitcher someone is.
Louisiana Lightning is an awesome pitcher and a True Yankee (C) (R) (TM) but definitely not HOF worthy.
Neither was Don Mattingly. And apparently neither was Keith Hernandez or Kirby Puckett, per Matt's wisdom.
With Mattingly you have to remember his sick defense. Even when he was merely above average his defense was insanely good.
As for Guidry he had four years with an ERa BELOW three. FOUR! That's REALLY damn good. His career ERA is 3.29!
Seven times he was above 200 innings. Seven!
I know his career was short, but 14 years isn't THAT short, and it was of tremendous quality.
With Mattingly you have to remember his sick defense. Even when he was merely above average his defense was insanely good.
Yes, he was a very good defender and a very good hitter. But his career was too short! I'm not saying that he wasn't very good, or even great, but he wasn't either one of those things for long enough. Again, longevity counts.
As for Guidry he had four years with an ERa BELOW three. FOUR! That's REALLY damn good. His career ERA is 3.29
Yeah, that's really good. But there are other guys who have done that, too (for example, Kevin Brown did that six times in a much better offensive era). Guidry was a very good pitcher but he was not a very good pitcher for a very long time. Longevity counts.
Fine, forget wins in that 78′ season (although they are worth something, especially since he was winning at a part of a season the rest of the team was not). Look at the ERA. It was 1.74! He had NINE SHUTOUTS. Nine! He pitched 273.2 innings. It was an insane, unreal season.
Wins have use, limited as they are. Except in rare cases, they are at least indicative of going deep into games.
Longevity counts, but their careers weren't five years long. They weren't THAT short.
RRR, using one specific season to argue a guy's HOF candidacy is not wise. You need to take the whole picture into account, Guidry's whole picture isn't very good. If he pitched five more years, he most likely would've gotten more consideration. But he didn't. The same goes for Mattingly. They just didn't play for long enough.
Kevin Brown may well be a HOF'er. He has a great career ERA, better than Guidry (3.29) and he did it for 19 seasons. Plus he had 9 season where he was over 200 inings pitched.
No, but their play wasn't that great that it could overcome their relatively short careers.
I was only talking about 78′ again because Evil Empire said "Probably best to not use Ws as a qualifier for how good of a season someone had, they're not an accurate way to quantify how good of a pitcher someone is."
So I said that in 78′, wins were not the only reason he was insane. And I'm trying to argue that the rest of his career WAS very good. Sure it wasn't very long. But it wasn't THAT short.
Yeah, he had a fantastic year in '78. That's not good enough.
Lots of pitchers have 1 year good year in their career. This is the Hall of Fame. Your name is being associated with players like Babe Ruth and Tom Seaver.
Gator's numbers are – quite literally – half those of Seaver's in some major categories such as IP and Ks.
If you want to be associated the best, you need to be compared to the best. Gator doesn't stack up.
He's in the Hall of Really Good, right along with dudes like David Cone (he is also better than Gator, btw).
See, Brown and Guidry are almost identical pitchers but I think Brown has a better case because of his longer career.
I don't think either should be in, but Brown's longevity makes him a better choice.
I'm looking at the numbers besides the longevity numbers. I think that even w/o the longecity numbers, he's good enough.
(BTW, I know you're going to write "but you can't just look past longevity!" I'm not, I'm sayin that he's good enough despite the lack of longevity.
No, he's definitely not. You want good enough w/o longevity, look at Sandy Koufax.
Well if he's your baseline, you've got me.
No, he's not my baseline, I was just throwing it out there. But to be in the HOF with a career as short as Guidry's, you've got to be nothing short of dominant every single year. Guidry had four seasons like that, but the years around those great years were not good enough to get him into HOF territory.
If you look at the end result in ERA and the rate stats like that they are damn good. 3.29 ERA is pretty wicked.
Yes, a 3.29 ERA is very good but over 14 years, it's not enough.
Okay let's just agree to disagree here.
LOL. Fine. We're not going to gain closure on this one.
Yeesh…I never really stared that hard at Puckett's numbers. You are absolutely correct.
I'm sorry, but 12 years and a career .837 OPS is not good enough. I love me some KP – grew up with him being one of the icons of baseball at the time – but damn. He has a lesser resume than Jim Rice.
And then there's the Jim Rice travesty…
You must mean the travesty that it took so long for him to get in when he was deserving all along
162 game averages for two players at first base:
Player X:
.296/.384/.436/.821, 128+, 13 HR, 83 RBI, great defense that a lot of people consider to be one of the best ever
Don Mattingly: .307/.358/.471/.830, 127+, 20 HR, 100 RBI, also very good defense.
Each won one MVP award, with two other top five finishes. I've literally never heard anyone argue player X for the HOF.
Player X Keith Hernandez?
I've always thought of him as an HOF'er. I just didn't mention him because he's not on the ballot.
In fact I just looked at both their stat sheets on baseball refrence and I'm convinced both belong in the HOF.
I don't think either one should be–very good players, but not all time great players–but my point is that you never hear people clamoring that it's a travesty that Hernandez isn't in the HOF like they do with Mattingly (or Morris, or Dawson).
Unrelated: the Keith Hernandez episodes are two of my favorite Seinfeld episodes ever.
I know, right?
Also funny are the episodes where George gets smart and shows Derek Jeter how to hit, and where Paulie had to hit 2 HR's in 1 game for the sick kid.
George: Do you guys wanna talk hotels or do you wanna win some ball games?
Derek: We won the World Series!
George: …In six games.
My favorite episode of Seinfeld is the one where Kramer gets hold of the set from the Merv Griffin show and converts his apartment into it.
The Pitch is my favorite. And the Pen.
Yeah even with the facial hair, Hernandez and Mattingly are not HOF-worthy.
Evil Empire, you don't know the first thing about first base.
do Mattingly vs. Olerud.
Ask and you shall receive (10 hours later):
Don Mattingly: .307/.358/.471/.830, 127+, 20 HR, 100 RBI
John Olerud: .295/.398/.451/.863, 128+, 18 HR, 89 RBI
not exactly 10,000 words in this thread arguing Olerud's candidacy, huh?
If one of the reasons anyone thinks Edgar Martinez should be in the HOF is by virtue of him being the best DH of all time, read this:
I just tinkered with the Play Index on B-R because it's free for right now and Derek Jeter's 2009 (.871) was the 5th highest by OPS by a SS aged 35+. Because I don't subscribe, numbers 1-4 are not viewable. They are: 1.005, .930, .909, .891, and .876.
What 35 year old SS OPS'ed 1.005? That's batshit insane.
Trying to do some legwork…
Wagner is the .930 (age 37) and .909 (age 35). The 1.005 is Luke Appling in 1945 when he was 38, but it was only in 18 games.
Okay, so forget Appling's 18 game year.
Honus Wagner is the shit. He may be my favorite ever non-Yankee player.
Yeah, I sorted by percentage of games played at SS, not raw games at SS.
18 games is not enough of the season for it to qualify for the batting title or some shit like that, so it is inelligible IMO. Jeter had the 4th highest ever and Wagner is the record holder. Jeter is only the 3rd player in the history of baseball to ever do it.
Lesson of the Day:
Derek Jeter is fucking awesome.
Derek Jeter at age 36 will most likely still be better than at least 25 other starting shortstops and could conceivably be the best in the league (non-Hanley division). He's got a chance to play his posish for a few more years and be, overall, above average to average. Which is kind of good since the legitimate alternatives are few.
I followed an obvious hunch and found out that the .930, .909, .891 all belong to Honus Wagner.
The 1.005 and .876 do not.
I tried to get the share-it link, but B-Ref isn't quite working right.
1.005 – Appling (38)*
.930 – Wagner (37)
.909 – Wagner (35)
.891 – Wagner (38)
.885 – Trammell (35)*
.876 – Larkin (36)*
.871 – Jeter (35)
.870 – Joost (35)
.859 – Reese (35)
.833 – Appling (42)
* Didn't qualify for batting title
Thanks a lot, Jack.
I would be very happy to trade for Josh Johnson. However, a 3.23 ERA in the NL may go up significantly in the AL East and Roy Halladay is proven to be dominant in the AL East. I would rather have the younger Johnson than the older Halladay because I believe it is worth the risk of Johnson's NL to AL EAST stat translation. I would offer some sort of package with Joba leading it.
I've always heard that as a rule of thumb you increase the ERA by 3/4′s of a run, so a 3.98 ERA.
Ehhh…Not good enugh to trade Joba and others for IMO. He can end up better, but there's too much of a risk IMO.
Where do you hear that, if you don't mind me asking? Is there any actual math/science behind that?
I think Leiter was the one who said it. I'm not sure why.
Oh okay. Well, I know the AL East is much better than everything else in MLB, but I don't know if we should just take that number at face value and accept it. If MiL Splits had their pitching MLE calculator up, we could test it (albeit in an elementary way).
95.1 average MPH fastballs tend to translate from league to league well.
This kid is legit, he could very well lower his ERA next year in the AL East by virtue of pitching against guys who are unfamiliar with him in addition to the natural progression of him as a pitcher coming into his peak years and with an established comfort level at the major league levels.
He COULD…but I really think the NL is reaaaally mediocre compared to the AL. I don't like taking the risk. If it works out, it would be better than Halladay, but if it doesn't, we may have traded Joba for Andy Pettite. Which isn't bad by any means, but certainly not what we traded for.
Yeah but it's not like he's coming to the A.L. East with mediocre stuff or shaky peripherals. Johnson's legit.
Talent is talent. Josh Johnson put up some really awesome numbers this year and his stuff legitimizes it – it doesn't seem like it s a fluke. There is a very short list of pitchers that I'd want more than JJ (and they're mostly untouchable): Greinke, Lincecum, Hernandez, Haren, Wainwright, Verlander, and Lester.
Doesn't Haren seem to have a habit of breaking down in the later part of the year?
Also, keep in mind the Marlins had a terrible defensive team. And although there is a difference from the NL East to the AL East, as Matt wondered, there's no specific measurement (that anyone here seems to know of, at least) to quantify the difference.
JJ was pretty dominant against us-a pretty good AL East team!
Alomar, Blylevin, McGwire, Martinez (bonus points for pissing off anti-DH purists), and maybe Raines.
If the voters don't get over themselves and vote McGwire in, they are setting a precedent that will turn the HOF into a complete joke. Right now, whatever you think about any particular borderline call, the HOF has every truly great player minus Pete Rose, who did something that was never winked at or considered acceptable, and the penalties for which were pretty clear before the fact.
I hate McGwire, and while he should definitely be in, it isn't by a mile. But if they stick to their guns on these guys, they will end up excluding 4 of the biggest names in home runs, two of whom are on the short list of greatest hitters ever to play the game, and one guy who is on the short list of greatest pitchers ever to play the game.
Meanwhile, there are plenty of admitted cheaters in there already, and people who juiced and weren't caught will get in in the future. Who will be able to say they honestly give a shit about the HOF if all that happens?
I find the argument for Edgar Martinez into the HOF just to piss off people who are anti-DH rather compelling.
So, for the "Small Hall" crowd who would be hesitant to vote in a DH, where do you stand, then, on closers? Aren't they the "DH's" of pitchers so to speak?
I think you can be "small hall" in the sense of being pickier than most people, and still not rule out DHs or closers. You'd be crazy not to take points off for being a DH, of course. Defense matters, and if the guy DHing were good at defense, somebody worse at it could be DHing instead. But some DHs are just that good.
Similarly, closers don't contribute anywhere near as much as starters, and there should definitely be relatively few of them in there. But the Gossages of this world belong in the Hall.
It would be an insult, obviously, to put Mariano in the Hall with all those other people, but founding a Hall of Deities for him would be appropriate.
As of right now, I think it should be Mo and Hoffman. Aside from that, meh.
Closers also have much higher leverage (usually) to deal with, so that boosts their value by some. I think really of modern closers Mo, and maybe Hoffman
Closers – and all relief pitchers in general – really need to be at ridiculous performance levels and have a very long career in order for me to be sold on them for HOF eligibility.
Hoyt Wilhelm deserves to be in it, but I need to look at the rest closer to see how many undeserving people are in there. In the whole land of currently active relievers, probably only Mo and Hoff are worthy.
Here's a thought: obviously we take points away from the DH for not being able to play the field since they can't be as valuable if they don't appear for a very critical part of the game.
But think about this: how many guys still play the field and it impacts their team negatively. If they had really strong hitting numbers, they'd be voted in even though they cost their team a ton of runs?
Adam Dunn gets credit for playing the field, even though he's so bad at it he really should DH. Edgar gets no credit because he didn't play the field because he should DH. But he's not really costing them anything out there, spare a roster spot and some $$. I'm not sure how that could be factored into Hall consideration, but I think it's worth mentioning.
I'm rambling, but you guys know what I mean, right?
I understand exactly what you mean.
That is indeed something worth factoring into the equation. Without question though, even league average defensive value at 1B far surpasses the non-contributuon from a DH.
No doubt, but what if the D is below league-average?
I'd vote for Mattingly, if I were to be totally partial. He was my childhood hero.
But, since these voters seem to have to obey this thing called "responsibility," I'd vote for Dawson and the Crime Dawg. Fred McGriff… The Yankees would've won two more championships with you
Jim Bowden on FoxSports pushes the Yankees to beat Boston to the punch (i.e., before they offer Buchholz and Kelly) and deal Joba, Gardner, and Kennedy for Halladay. Can't believe the Jays would actually consider this, but if this is all it'd take, I'd certainly pull the trigger.
Also said we should sign Gonzalez for the 8th and move Hughes back into the rotation (yes, stating the obvious)
Hughes back to the rotation is obvious. Signing Mike Gonzalez? Not so much.
Yeah, If that's all it would take to get Halladay, i think Yankees would do it, but i don't see how thats a better deal than Buccholz and Kelly and others… Unless Blue Jays think Kennedy can be a back end starter…
Yankees want to get younger, I see Cashman trying to pry someone free like Felix or Josh Johnson before going to Halladay.
yeah, that'd be optimal, but it'd take a hell of a lot more than joba, gardner, and kennedy for either of those two.
have read of bunch of takes on this, most of which say that if the jays end up dealing halladay, it's going to be for much less than they current think they can get. or at least what they're currently asking for. think something only slightly better than the santana deal with the mets.
Oh yeah, but the way we can sign International Free Agents… i don't think Cashman would mind sending over Romine or Brackman along with others… Teams want catching, i wouldnt be afraid to go ahead and trade Romine and others with the 3 previous to land Felix. Gary Sanchez looks good and we can land Chapman, Mateo… Yankees are never afraid.
We should kidnap Sano, give him an Agassi mullet-wig and a new name.
Get it done, Cash$$$!
Maybe some Sammy Sosa makeup as well.
No Gonzalez or any Type-A relievers.
Yeah, i don't like Gonzalez in the AL East… if he said Rafael Soriano, I'd back that up… if he wasnt offered arbitration.
I think neither one of them will be a Yankee. They could likely get closing jobs elsewhere. I wonder if they'll move Hanson to replace them!1!!!111!
Yeah, i see the braves offering arbitration because both of them can close, which means… i don't want either of them at that point.
Yeah, no reason to surrender a 1st round pick on a reliever, especially Gonzales.
Todd Zeile is on the ballot? I hope you're joking. A whopping 253 career HRs, couldn't steal bases, hit .346 OBP, .423 SLUG for his career. Oh but he's "gritty" and he did "great charity work". Give me a break. Not a HOF player, not even a good player. This must be a joke.
He's there to show how great Mattingly is.. Hurry up and get Sheppard to do an introductory tape before it's too late….
So do we do nothing if Halladay stays or do we go after JJ if Roy is on the Red Sox? Seems like we can be proactive or reactive and still come out pretty darn well….
I have seen Montero a few times in Tampa spring training games and he is a big body who carries the bat like a toothpick. Doesn't run well. Don't know about his defense in terms of quickness/soft hands/arm strength… I'd like to see a piece on him, RAB gurus…
I would trade him for Roy but I await further education. Whatever we offer PLEASE throw in Molina and we'll pay his salary…
I'd add to Mike's list, in no particular order, Lee Smith, Jack Morris, Fred McGriff, Andre Dawson, Harold Baines and Dave Parker, but would leave out McGwire. Also ultimately would leave off Edgar Martinez, although he was a great hitter.
As links for support-
Here are Smith's numbers:
Also, here's my reasoning on McGriff:
Sorry to join the conversation so late. Here goes:
Bert Blyleven
Andre Dawson
Andres Galarraga
Barry Larkin
Edgar Martinez
Don Mattingly
Fred McGriff
Mark McGwire
Jack Morris
Dale Murphy
Dave Parker
Tim Raines
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
i'd never vote for mcguire because he wasn't a well-rounded, consistent player. look beyond the home run total. what's there? roids probably ruined his chances of enshrinement, not because of his damaged reputation but because it probably contributed to his numerous injuries and shortened his career by two or so years. And, seriously, who gets over one-third of his hit total from home runs? Serious roid inflation
On a side note, I was 16 when he hit 70 home runs and everyone knew he was juiced up. When he testified before Congress, all the sports writers pretended that someone pulled the rug from underneath them. Some still do (*cough* Passan *cough*) and they continue to write that same "another black eye for baseball," "the national past time has lost it's innocence," "nothing should surprise you in the steroid era" article again and again. Steroids didn't ruin baseball. Beat writers writing about steroids ruined baseball.
Roberto Alomar – in
Kevin Appier – really?
Harold Baines – come on now…
Bert Blyleven – ridiculous that he isn't there already.
Ellis Burks – this is some kind of a formality, yeah? psssh
Andre Dawson – debatable
Andres Galarraga – also debatable… neither he or Dawson would be a question if the Expos had ever amounted to squat.
Pat Hentgen – hellllllll no
Mike Jackson – yea right
Eric Karros – no
Ray Lankford – no
Barry Larkin – no
Edgar Martinez – no
Don Mattingly – WTF?! of course. if Boggs is in, Mattingly has to go too.
Fred McGriff – debatable
Mark McGwire – yea, but if Big Mac goes, Rose has to go
Jack Morris – hell yeah. remember: winningest pitcher of the 1980′s
Dale Murphy – meh… no
Dave Parker – rings help, but I dunno how much he deserves it
Tim Raines – nah
Shane Reynolds – who?
David Segui – no
Lee Smith – still not in?
Alan Trammell – also a no-brainer and should have been in years ago
Robin Ventura -no
Todd Zeile – heck naw
So I have:


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The person in the photographs used a victim's debit card shortly after the victim was robbed at gunpoint at the 2300 block of Yadkin Avenue.
The victim in this case had returned to her residence when she was approached by an unknown suspect holding a firearm.
The suspect then demanded the victim's purse and fled the scene by foot.
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ACCRINGTON Stanley held on to earn a precious point against fellow strugglers Bury, despite playing with 10 men for an hour.
Left back Laurence Wilson was sent off soon after the half-hour for a terrible challenge on Craig Jones.
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MEXICO CITY--Mexican restaurant franchise operator Alsea SAB (ALSEA.MX) said Monday it has acquired the exclusive right to develop the P.F. Chang's China Bistro brand in Brazil, marking the company's entry into the South American nation after years of managing brands such as Starbucks and Domino's Pizza in Mexico.
Alsea, which opened its first P.F. Chang's in Mexico City in 2009, plans to spend more than $85 million to open 30 of the casual dining restaurants in Brazil over 10 years. The company said in a statement that Brazilians consume more than $60 billion a year of food and beverage outside the home, and that the casual dining and fast-food segments have shown sustainable growth in recent years.
"The P.F. Chang's China Bistro brand in Brazil will be the port of entry that will allow us to enter the largest economy in Latin America," Alsea Chief Executive Fabian Gosselin said in the statement.
Alsea already owns the rights to operate the brand on an exclusive basis in Argentina, Chile, Colombia and Mexico. Chief Financial Officer Diego Gaxiola told Dow Jones in December that the company hoped to soon enter Brazil via a casual dining concept, although he wasn't at liberty to go into further detail at the time.
There are more than 225 P.F. Chang's open in the U.S. The brand is also present in Canada, Chile, Kuwait, Lebanon, the Philippines and the United Arab Emirates, Alsea said. As of end-2012, Alsea operated 11 P.F. Chang's. The company plans to open its first Brazilian location in Sao Paulo in the second half of 2013.
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The curriculum alignment project is an initiative of The Upper Rio Grande Valley P-16 Council of Hidalgo and Starr Counties and funded by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. Launched in spring 2009, the project's goal is to align the English language arts curriculum between UTPA and STC, where 90 percent of the students in Hidalgo and Starr Counties attend college, and also between the public high schools in those counties and the two higher education institutions.
|Among the Hidalgo and Starr County high school English language arts teachers who participated in the March 6 meeting at UTPA to discuss the curriculum alignment project initiated by the Upper Rio Grande Valley P-16 Council were left to right Art Villarreal and Abraham Cantu, LaVilla ISD, and Elizabeth Perez and Roger Rodriguez, Roma ISD.
During the meeting, held at the UTPA Annex in Edinburg, the educators examined the College and Career Readiness Standards (CCRS), the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills (TEKS) and the course syllabi for freshman level English courses 1301 and 1302 at UTPA and STC for congruence and expectations.
The CCRS – what students in every school need to know and be able to do to be college ready – were developed by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board, the Texas Education Agency, university faculty and teachers in the public schools. Now those standards are going to be used as the basis for end of course (EOC) examinations that will measure academic performance in core high school courses. These EOC exams will begin with the freshman (high school) class of 2011-2012 and replace the TAKS.
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Rodriguez said every core area, which includes English, math, science and social studies, will have an EOC exam. For example, the EOC exam to determine college readiness is the English III exam. Students will also take English I and English II EOC exams. She said the core area focus will be on English and math first.
Before the EOC exams begin, Rodriguez said it made sense to look at the alignment of the curriculum of UTPA, STC and the public schools locally. For the past two months, faculty from UTPA and STC have met to develop common learning goals and outcomes for English 1301 and 1302 with the goal of moving seamlessly from the high schools ready to engage in learning in those freshman level college English courses.
"Impetus for this project is Texas' goal of closing the gap in increasing high school graduation and student access, participation and success in post-secondary education," Rodriguez said.
Another meeting for English language arts educators will be held in April. To learn more about Closing the Gap Plan and P-16 Council initiatives, go to http://www.thecb.state.tx.us/.


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Bournemouth's 'extraordinary' winter weather scrutinised by officials
12:00pm Saturday 3rd May 2014 in News By Toby Wadey
THIS winter has been described as "extraordinary" by council officials.
Bournemouth council's flood advisory group met on Monday to deliver an update on flooding and drainage issues faced since the start of the year.
The area was hit with high winds and heavy rainfall throughout the season, culminating in the February 14 storm which caused disruption and damage across the conurbation.
Flooding and drainage manager Paul Ambrose told the group that the council had been well prepared for the storms.
"We had three significant events in February of more than 25mm in just over two weeks.
"We would usually expect to see three such events across the whole year," he added.
"January's rainfall was 238.88mm which broke the month's record.
"It has been an extraordinary winter in terms of rainfall.
"There has been a very big change in the weather patterns."
Mr Ambrose said dozens of trees were believed to have come down in Bournemouth during the Valentine's Day storm, and showed the group slides of a large tree which had fallen into the River Stour at Iford Meadows.
"We had a major job getting the tree out of the river.
"When it fell it took a big chunk of the bank with it," he added.
"The events on February 14 were very well predicted and we were able to gear up for it.
"By Friday morning we knew we were in for a major flooding event."
"We only had one case of internal flooding at a property and they happened to be away on holiday at the time."
Cllr Michael Weinhonig, who attended the meeting, said he wanted to extend his personal thanks to the fire service and all the staff at the council.
He was grateful for their during the floods on February 14.
He added: "We also need to complement the residents of Bournemouth for their resilience."
Monitoring continues
The River Stour has experienced problems with flooding this winter and water levels appeared high again this week.
Paul Ambrose said: "The River Stour is largely flooded from groundwater and it responds very quickly to rainfall."
A spokesperson for the Environment Agency said on Tuesday that the River Stour was not at imminent risk of flooding despite the increased recent rainfall.
He added: "It hasn't triggered any of our alerts or warning systems but we will continue to monitor the area closely as we are aware of how wet it has been over the last day or two."
On Tuesday it was revealed the Environment Agency's flood defence spending in the South West has fallen from £45m in 2010-11 to £32m in 2013-14.
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12:41pm Sat 3 May 14
muscliffman says...
What does he base this rather dramatic theatrical statement upon, we have just had an unusually wet winter and quite a mild one, so what? The previous year was quite cold and unusually snowy, next year could be cold and dry, or mild and very dry, or cold and windy....who knows, it's called weather it has underlying seasonal variations but does not adhere to 'patterns'.
2:22pm Sat 3 May 14
anotherfatslob says...
Hope this helps.
3:01pm Sat 3 May 14
PUZZLED ONE says...
Exactly what do they think they are going to do to prevent a recurrence - wave a magic wand?
The article states that Cllr Michael Weinhonig said he was grateful for their during the floods.
I wonder what it was that he was meant to say?
3:39pm Sat 3 May 14
wonderway says...
3:57pm Sat 3 May 14
Lord Spring says...
4:07pm Sat 3 May 14
muscliffman says...
anotherfatslob wrote:In what way, what is happening climatically now that did not happen time and again before we industrialised about 100 years ago - and sometimes far more dramatically? As far as any local flooding is concerned this year was nothing compared to flooding in the mid-seventies and on several other previous occasions.
It's the climate,it's changing thanks to our lifestyles :)
Hope this helps.
Man made climate change = scam!
6:14pm Sat 3 May 14
chrisii1991 says...
9:29am Sun 4 May 14
jinglebell says...
Happily, we are now all enlightened by this Council statement.
Dare we ask if these intellectual wonders in B'mth's bumbling Council have actually put plans in place to safeguard properties etc. if we get high winter rainfall again....or maybe that requires many more meetings where no decisions are taken....but statements, however, to the local rag are issued telling us again that we had a very rainy winter .......because that helps.
10:25am Sun 4 May 14
Phixer says...
anotherfatslob wrote:It's because of a significant population rise in recent decades. What we need is another world war, plague epidemics and mass euthanasia; are you volunteering for euthanasia to help save the planet?
It's the climate,it's changing thanks to our lifestyles :)
Hope this helps.
Oh, and being a 'fat slob' means that you used more than your fair share of food, all grown with the help of chemicals which destroy the planet or are fed to animals producing too much smelly emissions.
6:19pm Sun 4 May 14
Yankee1 says...
No cyclones?
No tornadoes?
Diddums. You had a bit more rain than in recent years, but it is hardly historical.
A weather catastrophe occurs when many lives are lost. This was an inconvenience; not a disaster.
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Before there was Edward Snowden, there was Thomas Drake.
Drake is a former senior executive with the National Security Agency who was indicted on 10 felony charges in 2010 for allegedly leaking classified information about troubles within the agency to a Baltimore newspaper.
He later reached a deal with federal prosecutors in which he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of unauthorized use of an agency computer and was sentenced to community service.
Drake since has traveled the nation talking about government surveillance efforts and his contention that they violate the U.S. Constitution and the fundamental rights of all Americans.
He has brought his crusade to Tacoma, where he will speak Saturday night at the Washington State History Museum, 1911 Pacific Ave. The presentation also will include remarks from attorney Jesselyn Radack and will begin at 7:30 p.m.
Radack most recently served as Snowden's legal adviser in Russia, where he is in exile after revealing the extent of the government's surveillance of American citizens' phone calls and other activities.
Admission is free, and the presentation will be live-streamed into an overflow room if the main hall fills up.
The event is sponsored by People for Peace Justice & Healing, the ACLU of Washington, United for Peace of Pierce County, and local chapters of Veterans for Peace and the Fellowship of Reconciliation.
Drake told The News Tribune on Friday that the presentation is part of an ongoing conversation that has begun about government surveillance and how much the American people are willing to pay in pursuit of security.
"People are beginning to ask a lot of hard questions," Drake said. "How much more money do we spend? How many more freedoms do we give up?"
Since the Sept. 11 attacks, many people at the highest levels of government have used fear of future terrorist attacks to expand domestic spying and erode "the fundamental principles" on which the nation was founded, Drake said. And they've done so in secrecy, he added.
Drake said it doesn't have to be this way. Americans are intelligent and creative enough to devise surveillance techniques that gather information about its enemies without sacrificing its citizens' rights.
Unfettered government access to the data of its citizens' daily lives is not the answer, he contended.
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SALISBURY, Md.— Delmarva Power said it is closely monitoring the approach of Tropical Storm Sandy, which has the potential to cause devastating damage to the utility's service territory.
The utility said it has initiated its incident response plan to prepare for the storm and is strongly urging customers to get ready now for the possibility of multi-day outages.
Weather services are predicting that the Delmarva Peninsula will experience heavy rain and high winds over a sustained period, which could cause widespread and extended power outages.
"Our emergency teams are active, regional storm teams are communicating and operational teams are preparing for potentially devastating damage to the region's infrastructure," said Delmarva Power President Gary Stockbridge.
The utility is warning that tens or even hundreds of thousands of customers could lose power during this potentially catastrophic event. The utility said it is committed to restoring power as quickly and safely as possible, although customer and crew safety remains the top priority. Crews will begin working as soon as winds subside to below 35 mph, which is maximum safe wind speed for workers to go up in bucket trucks per safety regulations, the utility said.
"We're hearing forecasts that we could see heavy sustained winds for up to 48 hours as this storm makes an agonizingly slow track across our overall system," Stockbridge said. "If winds are too high, we will not be able to start restoration work until they die down, so it could be as long as even a day or two before our crews could safely start working to restore power."
In anticipation of the storm, the utility has mobilized all employees. Delmarva Power also said it is asking for mutual assistance line crews from other utilities. The allocation of mutual assistance crews will be determined when Delmarva Power has more detailed projections of where damage is expected to occur, the utility said.
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Buffalo Chicken and Roasted Vegetable Cauliflower "Pizza"
If you've been making the rounds in the low-calorie food blog world lately, you've probably seen this recipe come up again and again. Apparently, it showed up on Pinterest sometime in April and caused quite a stir. I missed this craze, so I only found out about this recipe in the last couple of weeks ago. What stuck me is how much it looks like a pizza – it must tastes like pizza too, right? Delicious, crusty, melty pizza, now without the guilt. It tastes nothing of the sort. Don't get me wrong, the result is good, just not the way pizza is good. It's good the way a latke would be if it were made with cauliflower and topped with cheese.
If I were in charge of inventing this recipe, I would absolutely not call it "cauliflower pizza." Maybe I would call it a "cauliflower flat thing" or "hot salad" but definitely not anything with that would make the diner expect something as glorious and satisfying as pizza.
That said, this recipe really stretches a single head of cauliflower. I was able to make two 10″ pizzas with one medium sized head. On the first try I decided not to mess with meat and just threw on various veggies that were in the fridge. The result was okay, but the tomato sauce I used was a bit runny and caused the crust to get soggy. It also didn't have punch of flavor I wanted. On the second try I tossed the tomato sauce and made a buffalo chicken pizza with faux-blue cheese dressing. This was much better, and the crust was less soggy. Later on, while doing some post-cooking reflection/research, I found a blog that recommends squeezing the water out of the cauliflower after it is cooked, which I think would help give the crust some much needed crispness.
If I could do it all over again:
- After microwaving, squeeze the hell out of the cauliflower until it's bone dry
- Cook on parchment paper or some equivalent nonstick surface (the tinfoil I used managed to fuse with the crust while baking)
- Use a thick sauce on top
The cauliflower crust makes a very neutral base, so I recommend robust toppings like chicken tikka masala topping or goat cheese crumbles with balsamic vinegar glaze.
Each pizza serves 6-8, recipe adapted from recipegirl.com
(recipe makes two 10″ crusts)
- 1 medium head cauliflower, cored and separated into medium florets (approx 2 1/2 cups)
- 1 large egg
- 1/2 cup part skim mozzarella cheese
- 1 teaspoon dried oregano
- 2 teaspoons garlic salt
- Buffalo chicken topping or Roasted vegetable topping (recipes follow)
1. Using a food processor, pulse the florets until it looks like rice. Place the cauliflower crumbles in a large, microwave safe bowl and microwave them on "high" for 8-10 minutes, or until softened. Allow to cool a few minutes. Using a clean dish cloth, a sieve or a ricer, squeeze as much water as possible from the cauliflower.
2. Preheat the oven to 400 degrees F. Line a baking sheet with parchment paper and spray with cooking spray. In a medium bowl, combine1 1/2 cups of cauliflower, egg, cheese, oregano and garlic salt. Pour the mix onto the pan and shape the crust into a 9 to 12-inch round on the prepared. Bake for 20 to 25 minutes, or until golden and crisp.
Roasted Vegetable Topping
- 1 cup tomato sauce (I used Rao's Homemade Arrabiata sauce)
- 1/2 cup grated part skim mozzarella
- 1 cup sliced mushrooms
- 1 yellow onion, finely sliced
- 1 tablespoon canola oil
- 1/4 cup asparagus, cut down the middle
- 1/4 cup bell pepper, finely sliced
- 1/4 cup yellow squash, finely sliced
- Basil leaves
- 1 teaspoon crushed red pepper flakes (more if you like it spicy)
- Kosher salt
1. Heat the tomato sauce in a saucepan over medium low heat until thickened.
2. In a separate pan, heat canola oil over medium heat and add yellow onions. season with a pinch of salt and drop heat to medium low until transluscent. Add sliced mushrooms and cook until the mushrooms are soft and the onions begin to caramalize, approximately 10-15 minutes.
2. Spread the tomato sauce on top of the baked crust, leaving a 1/2-inch border around the edge. Sprinkle 1/4 cup mozzarella on top. Add the mushrooms and onions, spreading it out around the pizza. Sprinkle the remaining cheese on top. Add asparagus, bell peppers, squash and basil leaves. Sprinkle with crushed red pepper and season with kosher salt.
3. Set the oven to broil and cook for 3 to 4 minutes, or until the toppings are cooked and the has melted and bubbled. Cut into 6 slices and serve immediately.
Buffalo Chicken Topping
- 3 oz plain nonfat yogurt
- 1 teaspoon garlic powder
- 1 tablespoon lemon juice
- 1 teaspoon white wine vinegar
- 1 chicken breast, thinly sliced and wicked of excess moisture
- 1/4 cup all purpose flour
- 1/2 cup Franks Red Hot Sauce
- 1/4 cup canola oil
- 1/2 cup grated part skim mozzarella
1. Season the chicken with salt and pepper and coat with all purpose flour. Shake off the excess and set aside. In a medium saucepan, heat the 1/4 cup canola oil on high heat. Slowly add the chicken pieces and cook until crisp and golden brown, about 1 minute per side. Remove from the oil and transfer to a paper towel. Combine with the Frank's Hot sauce in a small bowl and set aside.
2. To make the faux-blue cheese sauce, combine the yogurt, vinegar, lemon juice, and garlic powder in a small bowl. Season to taste with salt and pepper. Drizzle the sauce on top of the baked crust. Add the chicken and hot sauce to the top. Sprinkle 1/4 cup mozzarella on top.
3. Set the oven to broil and cook for 3 to 4 minutes, or until the toppings are cooked and the has melted and bubbled. Cut into 6 slices and serve immediately.
The Breakdown
Roasted Vegetable Pizza
Calories 125
Calories from Fat
Total Fat 6.4g
Saturated Fat 2.6g
|Trans Fat 0.0g
Cholesterol 10mg
Sodium 371mg
Total Carbohydrates 10.8g
Dietary Fiber 3.7g
|Sugars 5.5g
Buffalo Chicken Pizza
Calories 160
Total Fat 5.1g
Saturated Fat 2.8g
|Trans Fat 0.0g
Cholesterol 35mg
Sodium 1080mg
Total Carbohydrates 11.3g
Dietary Fiber 2.6g
|Sugars 3.6g
|Protein 17.1g


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GULPORT, Miss. — D'Iberville felon has been sentenced to 10 years in prison and fined $5,000 for having a weapon.
The Sun Herald reports (http://bit.ly/12rUBzu ) 33-year-old Jarvis Romaine Bell had a cocaine-possession conviction when Biloxi police pulled him over for reckless driving June 23, 2012.
Bell was found with a 9 mm Springfield pistol and ammunition. Court papers show the weapon's serial number had been altered.
Bell pleaded guilty March 27 to possession of a firearm by a felon.
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