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Is the private-copy levy system of Austrian copyright law compatible with the EC's InfoSoc Directive 2001/29 when national law: (a) puts the levy on all blank recording-media irrespective of whether the media are marketed to intermediaries, to natural or legal persons and for use other than for private purposes; (b) offers refunds in some circumstances but not others; and (c), only pays authors half of the net 'fair compensation' monies collected and gives away the other half to Austrian cultural organisations?
From 2003, Amazon supplied customers in Austria with blank recording-media in the form of CDs, DVDs, memory cards, and MP3 players. Amazon was sued by an Austrian collecting society, the Austro-Mechana Gesellschaft zur Wahrnehmung mechanisch-musikalischer Urheberrechte Gesellschaft m.b.H..
The claim against Amazon totalled nearly 2 million euro. According to the collecting society, this was the amount owing on unpaid private-copy levies on recording-media sold in Austria during the first six months of 2004. Amazon.com, whose registered corporate seat is in Seattle, was the primary defendant. The co-defendants in this action were other Amazon companies registered in Luxembourg, the German towns of Bad Hersfeld and Munich, and one company that had gone into liquidation in Vienna. The co-defendants were responsible for various tasks such as warehousing and running internet websites and platforms.
Amazon not only refused to pay the bill but also denied the collecting society access to its books because that data would then be used by the collecting society to calculate the value of amounts due in respect of subsequent years of unpaid private-copy levies.
Legal proceedings ensued and in 2010 the Commercial Court in Vienna ordered access to the books, an order upheld on appeal six months later, but itself subject to a further appeal to the Austrian Supreme Court.
The Austrian Supreme Court heard the dispute and identified several issues on which it was uncertain how to interpret EU law, and to that end asked 4 broad questions of the CJEU.
Question 1 relates to the characteristics of the Austrian private copy levy. Amazon submitted that the Austrian legal regime for blank recording-media contravened EU law. The applicable Austrian rules made no differentiation as to the use of such media. This was contrary to the approach of the CJEU in Case C-467/08, Padawan. An indiscriminate application of the private copy levy to digital reproduction equipment that was not available to private users was clearly incompatible with the InfoSoc Directive. Furthermore, as result of Padawan, the levy should only be collected from traders and not from sales partners or suppliers of logistical services.
The Austrian Supreme Court noted that unlike the situation in Padawan, the Austrian system allowed for reimbursements to be made in some circumstances. For example, the levy would be reimbursed where there was export prior to sale to end users located abroad. Equally, reimbursement could be claimed where the right holder had given his permission to the use of the recording-media so that reproductions of his work could be made with his consent – beneficiaries of the refund were normally commercially active end-users which were therefore not making a 'free use' of a copyright-protected work.
The Austrian Supreme Court brought these issues together in Question 1, and introduced a set of alternatives in Question 2.
Question 3 deals with another aspect of the CJEU's judgment in Padawan, namely, the rule that the rate of fair compensation must be calculated on the basis of the harm which authors suffer. In contrast, the applicable Austrian legislation required the collecting society to pay half of the monies collected to social or cultural organisations. Amazon questioned why right holders, who were suffering harm, needed to put up with the situation where they only received half of the amount of money and for the rest could only potentially make use of the social and cultural organisations benefiting from the payments made by the collecting society. Moreover, Amazon raised doubts about a legal situation in which Austrian collecting societies benefit Austrian right holders but also represent foreign right holders in Austria – were not foreign right holders in fact being disadvantaged under this regulatory set up?
Question 4 addresses Amazon's claim to have paid an equivalent levy in Germany.
Questions Referred
According to the Curia website, the Austrian Supreme Court has asked:
1. Can a legislative scheme be regarded as establishing 'fair compensation' for the purposes of Article 5(2)(b) of Directive 2001/29/EC, where
(a) the persons entitled under Article 2 of Directive 2001/29/EC have a right to equitable remuneration, exercisable only through a collecting society, against persons who, acting on a commercial basis and for remuneration, are first to place on the domestic market recording media capable of reproducing the works of the rightholders,
(b) this right applies irrespective of whether the media are marketed to intermediaries, to natural or legal persons for use other than for private purposes or to natural persons for use for private purposes, and
(c) the person who uses the media for reproduction with the authorisation of the rightholder or who prior to its sale to the final consumer re-exports the media has an enforceable right against the collecting society to obtain reimbursement of the remuneration?
2. If Question 1 is answered in the negative:
2.1 Does a scheme establish 'fair compensation' for the purposes of Article 5(2)(b) of Directive 2001/29/EC if the right specified in Question 1(a) applies only where recording media are marketed to natural persons who use the recording media to make reproductions for private purposes?
2.2 If Question 2.1 is answered in the affirmative: Where recording media are marketed to natural persons must it be assumed until the contrary is proven that they will use such media with a view to making reproductions for private purposes?
3. If Question 1 or 2.1 is answered in the affirmative:
Does it follow from Article 5 of Directive 2001/29/EC or other provisions of EU law that the right to be exercised by a collecting society to payment of fair compensation does not apply if, in relation to half of the funds received, the collecting society is required by law not to pay these to the persons entitled to compensation but to distribute them to social and cultural institutions?
4. If Question 1 or 2.1 is answered in the affirmative:
Does Article 5(2)(b) of Directive 2001/29/EC or other provision of EU law preclude the right to be exercised by a collecting society to payment of fair compensation if in another Member State – possibly on a basis not in conformity with EU law – equitable remuneration for putting the media on the market has already been paid?
The Austrian Supreme Court referred these questions in 2011. In 2012, another case came before it only this time the defendant was an importer of computer equipment and accessories. The legal issue is whether computer hard drives fall within the scope of the Austrian private-copy levy regime. The Austrian Supreme Court has suspended these proceedings pending the outcome of the CJEU's judgment in Case C-521/11, Amazon.
In Holland, the implications of the CJEU's ruling in Padawan have also formed the subject of a reference from the Dutch Supreme Court. The questions concern the compatibility of the Dutch private levy system with the InfoSoc Directive, see Case C-435/12, ACI Adam – calculating private-copy 'fair compensation' in EU copyright law.
In Denmark, the CJEU's ruling in Padawan was mentioned in the context of a recent reference made by the Østre Landsret, see further Case C 463/12, Copydan Båndkopi – Danish private-copy 'fair compensation' and EU copyright law.
The case was heard by the Second Chamber on 6 December 2012. Advocate General Mengozzi's Opinion is scheduled for 7 March 2013.
Update – 23 March 2014
According to the EUR-Lex website, the operative part of the judgment reads:
1. Article 5(2)(b) of Directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonisation of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society must be interpreted as meaning that it does not preclude legislation of a Member State which indiscriminately applies a private copying levy on the first placing on the market in its territory, for commercial purposes and for consideration, of recording media suitable for reproduction, while at the same time providing for a right to reimbursement of the levies paid in the event that the final use of those media does not meet the criteria set out in that provision, where, having regard to the particular circumstances of each national system and the limits imposed by that directive, which it is for the national court to verify, practical difficulties justify such a system of financing fair compensation and the right to reimbursement is effective and does not make repayment of the levies paid excessively difficult;
2. Article 5(2)(b) of Directive 2001/29 must be interpreted as meaning that, in the context of a system of financing of fair compensation under that provision by means of a private copying levy to be borne by persons who first place recording media suitable for reproduction on the market in the territory of the Member State concerned for commercial purposes and for consideration, that provision does not preclude the establishment by that Member State of a rebuttable presumption of private use of such media where they are marketed to natural persons, where the practical difficulties of determining whether the purpose of the use of the media in question is private justify the establishment of such a presumption and provided that the presumption established does not result in the imposition of the private copying levy in cases where the final use of those media clearly does not fall within the case referred to in that provision;
3. Article 5(2)(b) of Directive 2001/29 must be interpreted as meaning that the right to fair compensation under that provision or the private copying levy intended to finance that compensation cannot be excluded by reason of the fact that half of the funds received by way of such compensation or levy is paid, not directly to those entitled to such compensation, but to social and cultural institutions set up for the benefit of those entitled, provided that those social and cultural establishments actually benefit those entitled and the detailed arrangements for the operation of such establishments are not discriminatory, which it is for the national court to verify;
4. Article 5(2)(b) of Directive 2001/29 must be interpreted as meaning that the obligation undertaken by a Member State to pay, on the placing on the market, for commercial purposes and for consideration, of recording media suitable for reproduction, a private copying levy intended to finance the fair compensation under that provision may not be excluded by reason of the fact that a comparable levy has already been paid in another Member State.
The ruling in Amazon is now a feature of a reference made by the Brussels Court of Appeal. See further, Case C-572/13, Hewlett-Packard Belgium – objecting to a Belgian copyright rule 'the faster the printer, the more you owe'.
Update – 6 April 2014
In the German courts, Amazon has claimed that it does not need to pay any import tax on its Kindle devices. At the end of 2013, the German Federal Fiscal Court made a reference to the CJEU to clarify this area of EU law. See further, Case C-58/14, Amazon EU – installing dictionaries to kindle import taxes going up in flames.


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Quote:I have an unmodified Canon t3i. I'm wondering which light pollution filter would be the best. Orion has a skyglow that is specifically designed for astrophotography. However, I'm not sure how different it is from their regular skyglow (other than the fact that it's far more expensive).But, are there others that would be better? I don't have a lot of light pollution now, but I'm going to be moving in the next year to a place with more, and I'd hate to stop astrophotography just when I'm getting going.Thanks!
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For the first time in 20 years the Mineola Chiefs 10-year-old football team can call themselves the Nassau County Champions, claiming the 2011 NCYFL title with a 19-7 win over Long Beach Sunday at Mitchel Field.
The Chiefs end the season with an 8-1-1 record, turning in a dream season for the players, each of whom participated in the title victory.
The Mineola offense was led by quarterback Michael O'Connell (2 touchdowns, 1 extrapoint) and strong runs by Running Backs Matt Sluka (1 TD), Lance Costa, Jack Duff and Naz Jackson behind blocking from Michael LaGinestra, Kevin Parente, Patrick McTiernan, Anthony Giunta and Brandon Coward.
The aggressive Chiefs defensive line held the Bulldogs to a single touchdown thanks to tackles from Sante Nicolia, Philip Arnold, Dylan Vincenti, Matt Grimm, Joe Martello, Michael Sinisi, Spenser Warantz, King Welker, Joe Tallini, Vincent Pomara and Joshua Jacob.
Cornerbacks and safeties were lead by Thomas Albig (Int), Andrew Casoria, Ryan Calderon and Duff along with O'Connell, Sluka and Costa at linebacker.


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Paula July 23, 2014 at 01:11 AM
Actually, Politifact (Jan. 28, 2014) agrees with DeLauro's claim of women making 77 cents for every …Read Moredollar made by a man, quibbling only with the "for equal work" part. And that's not necessarily wrong either - it boils down to a number of ways the wages can be calculated. The point here is that Politifact determined the claim "Mostly True". The even bigger point is that women STILL make 77 cents on the dollar men make and that may seem fair to Chris and his candidate, Brown, but not to any voting woman I know. I find it pretty off-putting when I hear the GOP use sleight of hand semantics when playing fast and loose with actual stats regarding the very real problem of women making almost a quarter less than men. How many women -especially single working mothers - out here think Chris is helping his cause by calling Rosa a liar for pointing this discrepancy out?
Christopher Schaefer July 23, 2014 at 11:29 AM
The only problem is that Politifact is a front for Democratic Party commentary:…Read Morehttp://www.politifac tbias.com/ http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/05/28/study-finds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans
Shirley B. Backus July 19, 2014 at 12:22 AM
Excellent advice! Cats and dogs should be indoors unless on harness and leash anyway. Large dogs…Read Moresho uld be okay in a fenced-in yard. Coyotes are just one example of the many dangers faced by unattended cats and small dogs. Keep your pets from falling victim to predators, traffic, poisons, etc. Keep them indoors. Always.


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Carl H.C. Graves, 78, Logansport, passed away at 7 a.m. Wednesday, Oct. 24, 2012, in his home. Born Dec. 9, 1933, in Sharps Chapel, Tenn., he was the son of the late Claude David and Piney Delroe (Butcher) Graves. On Sept. 20, 1951, in Seymour he married Betty Raye (Yaste) Graves, who preceded him in death Dec. 12, 1984.
From 1951 to 1976, he was employed as a forklift driver at the Chrysler Corp. in Kokomo.
Carl was a member of Miami Baptist Church. He enjoyed deer hunting and fishing. He had been a Little League coach.
Surviving are six sons, Carl Graves Jr., Peru, Ron Graves, Somerset, Randy (Peggy) Graves, Logansport, Lyn Graves, Logansport, Shane Graves, Logansport, and Brad Graves, Logansport; two sisters, Pauline Ryan, Russiaville, and Ruth Graves, Kokomo; 11 grandchildren; and 19 great-grandchildren.
He was preceded in death by one brother, Donald; and four sisters, Anna Lou Graves, Barbara Sue Graves, Ivadell Smelser and Joann Maverick.
A funeral service will be at 10:30 a.m. Saturday at Fisher Funeral Chapel, Logansport, with Sr. Pastor Rev. Dr. Daisok Panmei officiating. Interment will follow in the Bethel Cemetery, Logansport. Friends may call from 4 to 8 p.m. Friday and one hour prior to the services on Saturday in the funeral chapel.
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A Waltham man was uninjured Tuesday night when his vehicle skidded on a patch of ice and smashed into a tree in north Weston before catching on fire.
Weston police received a call at 11:08 p.m. Tuesday about a vehicle fire at 90 Concord Road. Crews responded and found a vehicle crashed into a tree and in flames, but the driver was nowhere to be found.
Weston Fire crews extinguished the flames, which hadn't spread to the surrounding area, and had the vehicle towed.
According to Weston Police Lt. John Lyons, the driver of the vehicle returned to the scene where he told police he'd crashed the car after sliding on some ice. He told police he worked at the Campion Center about 1 mile away and left the vehicle to walk to the center and phone police.
The man was uninjured in the crash and no charges will be filed, according to Lyons.


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Mount View put together a solid first half Tuesday night at the Castle to take a commanding 43-16 halftime lead over the Man Hillbillies on their way to a 70-49 victory.
The Golden Knights' trapping full-court press caused the Hillbillies 10 first half turnovers that translated into several easy View baskets.
When forced to set up on their half of the court offensively, Mount View pushed the ball inside to Maurice Brown, who took game scoring honors with 22 points, and garnered 14 of those in the initial 16 minutes.
When shots missed, the Knights controlled the boards, out-rebounding their guests 37-11 in the first half and 62-31 for the game.
Analyzed Mount View head coach Gary Brown of his team's defense in the first two quarters, "We talked (in the dressing room) about playing with some intensity. We came out and played defense with a passion. That's the one thing we emphasized."
Ironically, veteran Man head coach Harvey Arms also used the word "intensity" when he spoke of the Golden Knights in the first half, "We were a little bit hurt by the intensity of their press. They were real aggressive with it. They played hard and physical."
Paco Bonds scored the initial points on a put back for the Knights, who led the entire way, stretching a 10-3 advantage at the 3:20 mark to 18-7 at the inaugural period's close.
The advantage swelled to the aforementioned 43-16 at the break.
Coach Brown called off the full court press in the second half, resulting in less pressure, which the Hillbillies found to their liking.
Brown led a quartet of double figures Mount View scorers with 22 points, followed by Antoine Calloway's 18. Tashaan Vineyard and Bonds followed with 10 points apiece.
Brown also pulled down 19 rebounds, while Bonds grabbed 10 misfires for the 2-2 Knights.
John Keffer and Clay Brumfield scored 14 and 11 points respectively for the 1-2 Hillbillies.
Continued Coach Brown, "I thought we played pretty well offensively. We still have some work to do, but we're coming."
The Golden Knights will face Valley Fayette, Friday at 6 p.m. in the Sissonville Tournament, with the host Indians meeting Wayne in the nightcap. Saturday the Friday night losing teams will play at six and the championship contest will follow.
Man returns home to entertain Fayetteville, Saturday night.
John Keffer 5 4-6 14, Justice 0 0-2 0, Clay Brumfield 2 6-6 11, Adkins 3 3-6 9, Mullins 3 2-6 9, Rowe 0 0-1 0, Harvey 1 0-3 2, Marrs 1 2-2 4, Total 15 17-32 49.
Hazzard 2 0-1 4, Tashaan Vineyard 3 3-4 10, Saunders 3 0-0 6, Antoine Calloway 8 1-2 18, Maurice Brown 11 0-4 22, Paco Bonds 5 0-2 10, Diggs 0 0-2 0, Totals 32 4-15 70.
Man.......................................7 9 11 22 — 49
Mount View.........................18 25 12 15 — 70
Three point goals: Man-Brunfield, Mullins; Mount View - Vineyard, Calloway. Fouled out - Man: Keffer


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Is there any particle physics beyond the standard model?Posted: November 15, 2012 Filed under: Links | Tags: quantum physics 1 Comment
The answer seems to be: NO.
Starts with a Bang reports on the upcoming LHCb publication on the muon–anti-muon decay channel of a B meson consisting of a strange quark and a bottom antiquark. The observed decay rate matches exactly the Standard Model prediction, casting very serious doubts on the existence of supersymmetric particles below 1 TeV. This in practice constrains supersymmetry out of the physically relevant energy ranges, and string theory along with it.
See also Peter Woit's pithy take on the results, and Ars Technica's ever-lucid reporting, and the story in Scientific American via Nature News. Matt Strassler offers meta-commentary that is worth a read as well.
Edit: additional reporting from Nature News, and a round-up of SUSY proponents' recent talks from Peter Woit.
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The one word that's almost synonymous with a working mum is 'balance'. How do you balance all the ten million things that we all do, even with the support of your partner? Just thinking about all the things I have to do every day and every week makes my head spin sometimes. Child, husband, household, work, school, shopping, appointments, birthdays, more shopping, more child, more work, cleaning, cooking, laundry... it's enough to just make you want to hide yourself under a duvet and just wish you were on a warm tropical island, lounging on a beach with a long tall cocktail, and... what the heck, a few cabana boys at your beck and call.
But since that's not happening any time soon, I just take the example of my mum instead. I talk about my mum many a time on this site, because for me, my mum was the epitome of balance. I still have no idea how she managed to keep all those balls in the air, and never dropped a single one. She's now almost sixty two, and she's still balancing out her life and all her commitments with a grace that I certainly do not possess by any means!
This particular recipe is for a prawn curry that we always had growing up. As a child, I was lucky enough to grow up by the coast. The west coast of India is the coast of the Arabian sea, and we had our pick of fresh seafood, most of which was caught on the day. A little known fact about seafood is that its seasonal as well. The kind of fish that one can get on the coast, for example, depends on many factors, including the kind of spawning happening, and even based on whether there is a waxing or waning moon.


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• The team from Maryland was on its way to the Super Bowl, but nobody knew that when Brandon Weeden got the ball in the fourth quarter on the Fourth of November.
Weeden's finest hour was about to happen.
Dick Jauron was dialing up calls worthy of an NFL coordinator coach of the year. On Joe Flacco's first five series of the second half, his series netted 0, 3, minus-8, 1 and 4 yards.
It was Weeden's turn to reciprocate when he got the ball on his own 43, trailing 14-12.
The team didn't need the power company to buy naming rights when Weeden completed a third-and-8 pass to Josh Gordon for a first down on the Ravens' 32. Browns Stadium was plugged in.
On first down, Weeden hit Greg Little for a first down to the 22.
It boiled down to third and 6 from the 18. Weeden was up to the challenge. Gordon broke open over the middle, and Weeden hit him at just the right spot and right time for an 18-yard touchdown.
Midway through the fourth quarter, The Browns had taken the lead on the Ravens. The stadium was as loud as it had been all year. The floodgates of momentum were open. In the first game of the second half of his rookie season, Weeden, maybe, was ready to take off.
There was a flag down on the field. Running back Chris Ogbonnaya, who had split wide, crept too close to the line of scrimmage. Ogbonnaya had nothing to do with the play, as it turned out ... and everything. Illegal formation, No. 25. Touchdown canceled. Momentum shot. Weeden';s finest hour suffocated by a little sheet of yellow.
Phil Dawson kicked a field goal for a 15-14 lead.
The defense quickly stuck Flacco in a third and eight, with a nice chance to restore momentum, but ... another flag ... roughing the passer on T.J. Ward. Momentum re-smothered.
Flacco finished the go-ahead drive with 4:26 left. You lived through the rest once, so we needn't belabor it here.
The team from Maryland went on to the last game of the year, in New Orleans.
The Browns are still wondering if putting up a fight against the best of the AFC counts for anything in 2013.
For what it's worth, Baltimore's old linebacker didn't play in that Nov. 4 game and is back now. But then, this is supposed to be his last game, so it will be back to Nov. 4 conditions, on that level, when the teams meet again.
• We're looking forward to catching up with Joe Thomas in New Orleans, where the model Brown will join Larry Fitzgerald and Jason Witten as a finalist for the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Award.
Thomas has high hopes for the new head coach, who was his offensive coordinator in his rookie year of 2007, when the team went 10-6.
• The difference Jimmy Haslam has chosen to make is to sign off on about $2 million for the new defensive coordinator and more than that for the new OC.
The coordinators will face the public later this morning. Let us know if they sound like they're worth it.


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Glasgow High School's Steely Harris, top, and Michael Harris, below, will open play Friday in the Kentucky High School Athletic Association Boys State Golf Tournament in Bowling Green. Thomas Kingery will lead off for the Scotties with a tee time of 8:12 a.m. on No. 10. If Glasgow makes the cut, the final round will be on Saturday.


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Hello everyone!
I recently bought a second-hand PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0GHz June 2004 model. The guy that sold it to me said he was selling it because of a power supply issue. He told me that an Apple Genius noticed a PSU failure and that a PSU replacement would cost him about 350€ (I'm in Italy), so he decided to sell the computer. Meanwhile he bought a replacement PSU from an eBay shop. When I first plugged in the Mac (with the original PSU), there were no life signs. I thought that was a real PSU problem and I decided to test the new PSU before putting it into the computer. I connected the PSU to the power and... it literally exploded. Lucky I didn't put that PSU into my G5.
Anyway, I'm in the same situation as before. When I first tried to plug in the computer, I noticed a very short blink from the power LED. However, the computer won't start at all. No fan noise, no lights, nothing. I then tried to reseat RAM, video card, fans... nothing. I then tried to replace the PRAM battery and resetting the PMU, same results. I decided to reseat the processors being extremely carefully, but nothing. At this point, I decided to test the original PSU on the bench and it seems to be outputting all the correct values (all the 5V, 3.3V, 12V, -12V, 25V) on the correct pins, even under a small charge. I then tried connecting pins 14-23 and the PSU fan started running. I then tried to manually give the OK for the voltage to come up on the logic board by connecting those pins with the PSU plugged into the logic board. All the fans started running very slowly, but that's it. Nothing else happened (Note: I tried this without RAM, CPUs, video card etc. I then read that this model won't start without even one CPU, they both have to be on the logic board, that's probably because it didn't proceed with the boot sequence).
Any idea? I don't want to spend 950€ on a new logic board, and I may try to repair the components on the logic board myself if it's necessary (I have a lot of experience in soldering etc, I already replaced 6 caps on an iMac G5 logic board and now it works perfectly). Anyway, reading on the web, I think I have a bad switch on the front board (the one with the power button). The button itself works, maybe the circuitry on the board died. I'm not going to buy any component before I'll find out what the exact problem is BTW.
I rely on your help! Thank you (sorry for my english)!


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- Place eggs in a saucepan and cover with water. Bring to a boil, remove from heat, and let eggs stand in hot water for 15 minutes. Remove eggs from hot water, cool under cold running water, and peel.
- Chop eggs and transfer to a large bowl.
- Stir mayonnaise, Dijon mustard, sweet pickle relish, steak sauce, paprika, and dill into eggs until well mixed; season with salt and black pepper. Cover and refrigerate until chilled, if desired.
- Sprinkle with cayenne pepper before serving.
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PLEASE FELLOW AR USERS, PLEASE DO NOT RATE A DISH WHEN YOU HAVE ALTERED THE RECIPE AS IT DOES LITTLE TO HELP OTHERS THAT WISH TO TRY A POSTED RECIPE. :D Don't want to come off like a butt but it drives me nuts to see a posted recipe than a user saying deleted this/added that/changed this to that UGH I made it as listed and while magical is not the word I would use I would call it a refreshing twist to the standard egg salad recipe. The addition of steak sauce brought a nice flip to the standard and came off well. I would definitely use this again. I substituted boiled fish heads for eggs and added a light balsamic glaze while mixing JUST KIDDING I followed it as listed and it was pretty good.
Excellent. I didnt have sweet relish opened and didnt want to struggle with the big jar for such a little bit so I chopped up a big dill pickle and used it. This was good and a new twist on egg salad.
Kristen K.
This was way better than the mayo-relish-s&p egg salad I usually make. The dijon mustard and splash of steak sauce give it a little tang and a lot of taste (I omitted cayenne for my toddler, so no comment on that). The only thing I might add next time is a bit of diced onion. Thanks Emily!
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- 45%
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- 3%
- Protein
- 16.1 g
- 32%
- Cholesterol
- 537 mg
- 179%
- Sodium
- 1022 mg
- 41%
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The Long Island Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence (LICADD) was named the 2013 Agency of the Year by the National Association of Social Workers New York State (NASW-NYS) Chapter.
LICADD, which has offices in Mineola, Ronkonkoma and Riverhead, will be presented with the award on March 1, 2013 at the NASW-NYS 2013 Power of Social Conference in Albany.
LICADD provides direct support to over 6,600 individuals and families annually through substance abuse interventions, treatment referrals and recovery support services. The student assistance program (SAP) delivers prevention education trainings to 20,000 students, parents, teachers and administrators in 56 districts. An additional 60,000 individuals are served through the agency's Open Arms Employee Assistance Program (EAP).
"I am honored to accept the award on behalf of our Clinical Team," LICADD Executive Director Dr. Jeffrey Reynolds said in a statement. "We have an exceptionally dedicated staff and their commitment to their clients shows in each and every interaction."
The agency, founded in 1956, also lobbies for public policy as it relates to underage drinking, substance abuse and access to treatment.
"LICADD is an exemplary organization," explained NASW-NYS Executive DirectorReinaldo Cardona, MSSW, LCSW, "and we are pleased to bestow the 2013 Agency of the Year Award in light of the remarkable achievements LICADD and its staff continue to make in the field of social work."


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MLB players should consider cheating.By
I'll admit the title is a bit of a misnomer. It should probably be "Some MLB players should consider cheating as it pertains to banned substances some of the time." Also, before going any further with this, I'd like to point out that this article was inspired by one of my great friends (who will hopefully allow me to share his proposal on how to best resolve this issue at some point in the near future). For the sake of the article (and dialog in general), let's put conventional sentiments surrounding ethics as they pertain to athletics on the shelf for a moment*.
* In other words, let's not just claim players shouldn't use banned substances simply because it's "wrong." Before you all completely hate on me for writing this article, know that my personal beliefs on performance enhancers are not being reflected, but rather, my observations on how players may perceive the current environment are. I am not really qualified to explain the long term effects of steroids to one's physical health, so some of my points may be leaps of … ahem, faith. Okay, disclaimers in order … check.
As far as I can tell, the basic motivation for cheating comes down to one primary goal in baseball (and probably sports in general) – that is to obtain a competitive advantage whether it be via skill or durability. For some players, this means transitioning from "subpar or expendable" status to, say, a useful role player. For other players, it may mean going from very talented to exceptional. In any event, I believe certain players in Major League Baseball have much more to gain by cheating then they have to lose compared to others.
Now, I'm not talking about your Alex Rodriguez or your Barry Bonds. Personality traits aside, it'd be completely asinine to claim that either of those players weren't incredible in their day. Both represent generational talents, who in their prime (and perhaps even past it), would represent an upgrade for any team looking to contend. The problem with cheating for these guys is a matter of perceived legacy. They were always likely to get paid assuming they could stay on the field. If they get caught cheating, the only real jeopardy they'd face is exclusion from the Hall of Fame (assuming the HOF doesn't change its criteria which I think it will in time). Sure, they may face a suspension as the rules currently stand, but my guess is they'd still typically acquire the big contract more often than not as they're naturally more gifted than their peers, and being gifted is an expensive commodity. To put this into clear context, I'm not talking about a guy like Mike Trout or Bryce Harper, or any of the other exceptional players in the league.
No, the type of guys I'm referring too are of the Melky Cabrera ilk. Let's rewind back to 2010. Having been traded to the Braves (in the infamous Javier Vasquez swap) from the Yankees, he was awful. We're talking a .255/.317/.354 slash line (.292 wOBA) with four home runs bad. For those wondering, that translates out a 77 wRC+ and a -1.1 fWAR. Basically, if all was just in the world, he would have had to pay the Braves for letting him "contribute" to their cause (and he'd probably have to offer a sincere heart-filled apology to [insert generic replacement level player here] for keeping him in the minors). Instead, he was non-tendered as the Braves wanted no part of his $3.1M salary. But the point stands; at this juncture, Melky barely qualified for any Major League roster spot … anywhere.
But something happened, and no, it wasn't the invigorating atmosphere of Kauffman Stadium or the refreshingly cool San Francisco air that caused it (presumably). Over the next two seasons with the Royals and Giants, Melky was legitimately good. This past season he was so good, in fact, he even contended for the batting title in the NL (.346/.390/.516, .387 wOBA, 149 wRC+, with 11 home runs). There were rumblings as far back as May, that by the end of the year, he was going to cash in a serious contract too, whether it be with the Giants or another team – some even mused a paycheck as lofty as four or five years, $50-60M (roughly $10-15M per year) which was probably quite realistic. For a guy who was about to potentially face a minor league contract, and who was barely a footnote in Major League Baseball as recently as 2010, that'd be one hell of a pay day.
Obviously, things went a bit differently though. Melky was caught using a banned substance. He didn't win the batting title (because he withdrew his name from consideration), and he was suspended from baseball for 50 games. Now you'd think that teams might have been worried this offseason that some major performance regression could happen for Cabrera and that his performance as player wasn't entirely legitimate the past couple seasons. You might reasonably expect that Melky could be an interesting "buy low" type of candidate for a lot of teams looking to strike gold on a player with some question marks along with some potential. Instead, the Toronto Blue Jays set the market with a two-year deal worth $16M – that is to say eight million dollars per season despite the question marks surrounding him! Not too shabby, really. And if he puts up solid numbers for the Blue Jays for the next couple seasons, he'll be right back in line for another solid pay day the next time he hits free agency. That's far more certainty than he had a few seasons ago when he was viewed as nothing beyond a fourth outfielder/depth guy.
So let's pretend we're the proverbial little red devil sitting on the shoulder of the next Melky Cabrera for a moment. We're going to say. "Son, let's be honest. You suck. Your dream of being a Major Leaguer could disappear very soon altogether. Go ahead; give yourself a boost while you still can. Maybe you'll turn it around and extend your career a little while (let's face it, you're not getting any younger). Maybe you'll heal faster from your injuries. Maybe you'll even become more productive like the Melk Man with a just a bit of help, and you'll put yourself (and let's not forget your family) in a better position to earn whatever you can while you can! And if worse comes to worst, you'll get caught, you'll face suspension, and you'll be viewed as a pariah. But then again, that sounds a lot like what's happening right now. Just consider it. You know everyone else is."
Of course, ironically, Melky still has the footnote to his name. He's just substantially wealthier for it.
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About time somebody else wrote something. What's the point of all the names on the side of the website again?
Actually, it's a fair point.
There's 2 Big Members now?
that's what she said.
Totally agree. Great article. In a strange way it's refreshing to hear
Problem is that if everyone else cheats you're basically implying that as a kid you need to cheat to be a major league, which in turn is not a good lesson for an adolescent, that honesty doesn't mean crap (it's true a lot of times but it shouldn't be encouraged), so pretty much every kid who dreams of making to the big leagues cheats, yaddi yaddi yadda, lesson of integrity.
But, as the disclaimer said, let's assume that morality aside. Would I risk ruin my name for some quick millions? Maybe. I might not even be caught. Nobody knows what PED does to a specific extent, but it probably helps more than it hurts, and if you don't care that a lot of people hate your ass, it'd be strange not to.
So your thesis is that there are incentives for players to cheat. Well that's pretty obvious. There are also incentives to cheat on my taxes, fabricate data in my professional career and generally cut corners in all aspects of life. There are lots of reasons why I don't do these things, not the least of which is that doing so would be wrong.
Now one could argue that the reason that I don't and Melky (and other baseball players) do is that I don't have the possibility of millions of dollars of payout if I break the rules. To me that's a pretty good justification for taking away the potential payout for baseball players. Lifetime ban for the first offense. That increases the risk dramatically and eliminates the possibility of someone being willing to suck up a single suspension simply to rebuild contract value.
Maybe lifetime for the first offense is too harsh. Make it at least a year. I doubt Cabrera gets the contract that he did from the Jays if he'd missed an entire season.
Yeah… not exactly compelling. Players have the choice of improving at the expense of moral issues and punishment, some think its worth it, some don't. News at 11.
Well, what I can I say. I write more for me than I do for you. Sorry you're not entertained…I guess.
Reading that from a public blog writer is……. ironic.
Well, you got him there….
How dare you! I spend good money to.. er, nevermind.
You make a good point. Just to add to that, cheating in the real world can often land you jail time. As far as I'm concerned, that's a much bigger disincentive than a 50 game suspension and a few people on the internet talking smack about the cheater.
Sports =/= "The Real World"…
E.G.: just imagine, if you would, if you found out that your accountant had a giant mural of himself in 1/2 Centaur form.
"So your thesis is that there are incentives for players to cheat. Well that's pretty obvious."
I think the larger point is that the incentive not to cheat doesn't always seem to outweigh the potential reward gained by banned substances in the hyper-competitive environment that is MLB. And, obviously, the decision to do it isn't as always as simple as "it's wrong." As you note, there are millions of dollars at stake and the penalty for a first offense really isn't all that harsh for the player. If anything, I'd argue the rules penalize the team more than anything.
But the point still stands. If you're Melky Cabrera, are you better off now than you were a few years ago? I mean, the guy is substantially wealthier, has apparently apologized for his mistakes and has a clear conscious, and is moving on with his career.
I'm not saying people should cheat. The point is that given the current structure of the rules surrounding this, I can understand how a lot of guys (particularly fringe players) take that chance without a whole lot of hesitation. And to Bob Button's point (above), I can't help but wonder how many players aren't caught compared to the number who are.
See Jeter, Derek. Or an even lesser player see gardner, brett or the thousands of other players who chose failure to be an amazing baseball player over dissapointment and los of respect from millions of fans and even worse, your family
Both Jeter and Gardner could be using some sort of PED for all we know… I wouldn't just pick out guys who don't hit for power and assume they're clean.
If they are, they need a better PED, because what they're using ain't working.
Jeter is closing in on 40 and was the 2nd best hitting SS in baseball last season… if he's taking something it is definitely working.
PEDs aren't just about bulk and strength. They can help you recover faster and help with quick twitch stuff as well.
I would differ a bit. I'm sympathetic to Andy, who used steroidal shit to heal from a repetitive malady. What else, I do not know, but to me it differs from a pitcher or hitter, on a weight training goal, to better himself thru chemistry.
Melky's family, from the pool in the back yard of their mansion, say Fuck You!
Yeah… what a terrible stigma. He netted at least $10m from his cheating. I'm sure his family feels terrible.
Bottom line, as mentioned above, is that 50 days is total bullshit. I'd say a full year, and you forfeit 1/2 of your next 2 years of salary.
Unfortunately, if the punishment doesn't compare to the potential gain, very few will worry.
Agreed completely.
What about the role of the coaches and player captains in discouraging cheating, or not. Cheating news broke today from US Speed skating about the coach pressuring players to bend the rules (pun intended): http://www.npr.org/2012/10/05/.....als-skates
Well why don't we create an analogy between professional athletes and our working lives that's better than the analogy of PEDs = cheating on taxes. If there was a substance that gave you better cognitive ability, more energy to make it through the days/weeks, helped you remember things better, made it easy to communicate with clients, or any other performance enhancing ability, would you take it? Would it be "cheating"? Or would you think it was putting you at an unfair advantage compared to your competitors? Is that cheating? If there were such a drug, performance (of people, of the overall economy) would be better, and benefits would spread to society as a whole. [Some might argue we already have it: caffeine. But I digress...]
I frankly have gotten a lot of enjoyment out of the performances of Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, A-Rod, etc. I really think people just get on their high horse to denounce them all when all they've done is improve the experience of the game. I know I'm in a minority, but I think people should stop and think about it for a second. Would we go back in time to not have Mark McGwire beating Maris's record? Or watch Bonds beat McGwire's record? I think PEDs have been a plus in terms of baseball's main purpose: entertainment. Yes, it's a bad influence on young athletes, and I agree with the controls that are put in place now.
Does my workplace forbid me from using such a drug? Because if so then yeah, and if I was caught they would be completely within their rights to fire me. But instead in baseball you just get a bigger contract.
But come on, really extend the analogy. Does your work put a lot of pressure on you to perform? Does your work care more about your performance than enforcing the ban? Does your work have the ban only because of outside pressure? Because "against the rules" is not really thinking deeply about it. It depends on why they have those rules. I think the main concerns should be health and influence on young people. But these guys aren't Lyle alzado shooting ridiculous anabolic stueroids with some back room doctor. I'm not saying they're 100% safe with no side effects but they are working with sophisticated doctors. In short I think the concussion problem in football is a MUCH MUCH MUCH bigger deal with regard to health and influence on youngsters than the PED scandal in MLB.
The only reason it was valuable to see Barry (US) Bonds was to see what would be doable by the very best, if it were humanly* possible. If it were in the strike zone**, it was hit so well that, well, you shouldn't wonder.
**Amazed me, how he could wait out a breaking pitch, and slug the cutest curve or slider. Plenty time to spit on the outside pitch. Same for Manny, the Uncanny.
This is appropriate for this: Enjoy.
Also this. Sorry, I love Daniel Tosh.
The reality is there is a time coming where there will be PEDs that do not have adverse health effects, and when that happens there won't be any non-Luddite rationale for excluding them from athletic competition.
Not just Luddites have integrity, honest hard work and pride.
Can you provide the rationale?
Honest hard work: You're doing the work through efforts and dedication, not a gulp of magic pills or taking short cuts
Pride: Doing as well as others when they are cheating and you aren't
I suppose that you'll enjoy a day where headline is "Player Caught Not Using PEDs"
I don't really think what you're saying refutes my argument. The reality is that hard work is not the only factor in making an MLB baseball player, whether you'd like to admit it or not. I could work harder than anyone else on earth, and I still would not be an MLB-caliber player, because I don't have enough natural talent. This would be true whether or not I used PEDs. Moreover, there are many things available to players today that were not available to players of the past, which those players might consider to be short-cuts as well: access to professional nutritionists and trainers, private planes, video on opposing pitchers, modern surgeries, etc. The list is endless. The vast majority of players work very hard. Some of them don't, and are still able to succeed in MLB due to their vast physical gifts.
"Pride: Doing as well as others when they are cheating and you aren't"
This is a loaded statement because you have to define the term cheating. Does stealing signs count? What about all the workout supplements that allow you to exercise harder but are not banned by MLB?
No point trying to explain anything anymore. Just because I can't explain what non-Luddite views there are doesn't mean that there isn't any. Just like how the mind-body relationship cannot be explained and there are many different ways to look at it.
I can't offer any rationale doesn't mean that there isn't. There are many things that have yet to be explained, discovered or proven, because they haven't been noticed, or people really don't care about them.
Well, I'm convinced.
There are plenty of PEDs that don't have adverse health effects-they are called protein shakes, vitamin pills, etc. and they weren't available in the past, they are examples of high technology, and they are approved by the FDA (in some cases) because they don't have adverse health effects.
Great article that brings up a lot of valid points. Imagine if the Mick had 2 good legs his whole career…
Holy cow, when was the last time we saw one of the Weekend Writers?
Heh, certainly none of the past 40 weekends, amirite??
and he's writing on Wednesday!
LK: why would you say that? The best anabolic steroids were developed decades ago after considering anabolic/androgenic/liver-toxicity concerns, with certain ones selected along certain ends of each spectrum and for other practical concerns. The more benign steroids, such as testosterone, are far better for you than smoking half a pack of cigarettes a day… the adverse health effects of non-oral steroids just exaggerate existing differences between male and female health (e.g. men have more heart problems, colon and prostate cancer) because your male hormones are increased.
PEDs are not limited to steroids.
So do you expect an entire new class of PEDs to become invented that have no health impact anytime soon, or ever? Anabolic steroids are never going to get there; the best molecules have already been synthesized and tested decades ago. HGH, insulin, and epi (going to all sports) are all natural materials ramped up to unnatural levels.
There was talk about SARMs being in development in recent years, but to expect them to have no health impact is a bit of a stretch to say the least.
I wouldn't want to get too specific in my predictions due to the fact that the future is so uncertain, but yes I expect entire new classes of PEDs to be invented, and I also expect entirely new classes of performance-enhancers (not necessarily drugs) to make their way into the discussion as well, perhaps related to genetics. I think we're currently drawing a very arificial line between what we decide is legal for our athletes to do and what we decide is illegal, and I think that line will be impossible to maintain with advancing technology. Just my opinion, feel free to disagree.
I know! Medicinal marijuana. Coupled with meditation.The pitcher will be able to focus, to hit the spot. He can refine his actions, his delivery, to replicate it every time he desires. Duck!
My dad who played in the Minors for 3 years and never went anywhere always said that if he could go back in time he would have used them. I always disagreed with him, yet I see his point. As a fan… I hate them. They don't make the game better… they make the game a lie. It makes me mad that my brother (who just got a full ride to play D-1 baseball and may get drafted this Spring) potentially has to compete with PED users to make it. He says he would never take them because nothing is worth the long term effect on your body (see Rodriguez, Alex). I hope that baseball can find a way to eliminate them from the game… but we all know… where there's a will… there's a way. Cheaters will cheat to get ahead, that's inevitable. I would love to find a full-proof way to eliminate them for good though…they're bad for the game and the people who play it.
right on, piss test every day, against steoids. Gotta work, to discern the previous use of the humanm growth hormone, or others. Oh well, every day, another sucker.
Don't think Ty Cobb took any tho. Probably snorted whiskey, enthusiastically, but one could not say that was performance enchancing, except psychologically.
A point missed in the "cheating" label is that before the MLB's CBA in 2005 there was no rule making PED'd illegal in baseball. Of course they are illegal by law, but MLB never had a rule saying "this is forbidden" -so then how can you call it "cheating"?
Go read the actual rules for MLB. It might be in there.
It is a drug, drugs were forbidden
Use of controlled substances without proper prescriptions was banned for decades.
The only thing the 2005 CBA added was testing and pre-defined punishments. Before that, you basically had to be caught using, and punishment was at the commish's discretion.
Cheating like this is not acceptable at all, doing steroids is also considered as doing drugs and those are awidely unaccepted by society also
A bit simplistic, no?
"widely unaccepted by society"
Clearly you've never been to college. Or at least not the one I went to.
Hey I didn't say that it was not used, just a lot of people hate it.
Ha, no, I meant that it's accepted too. Not PEDs, but you made a reference to drugs in general. In 4 years of undergrad, I could count the number of people who never did an illegal drug on 1 hand.
get off mah lawn, melky
hypothetical: in 5-10 years, parents who can afford it will be able to alter the genes of unborn children to strengthen their muscle fibers. is that cheating?
Ever see Gattaca?
Great Great movie.
It's not just the incentives for cheating–somebody mentioned taxes, professionally–it's the ramifications for being caught. I can't cheat on my taxes, because professionally it could lead to losing my position. If I lied about my professional qualifications and got caught, ditto.
So Melky didn't get to win the batting title. Did he give any money back? Did he never work in this business again?
Hell, he even got a post-season share!
I really could care less if these guys want to risk their health using PEDs. With the amounts of money at stake, you really can't blame them and I really don't consider players of the 90s and 2000s cheaters since I believe the vast majority were using some type of PED therefore it was essentially a level playing field.
The one problem I have is if you just turn a blind eye to PED usage, MLB could potentially become like professional cycling where you really could not compete at the highest level unless you were using PEDs so people who ordinarily would not use had to make a tough choice between being potentially elite or just a fringe performer.
I'm probably in the minority but I sort of miss the pre-Steroid ban era.
Not just for the homeruns and offense.
I also miss seeing great players extend their careers well into their late 30s(ie Bonds, Palmiero, Clemens, etc).
These days it seems like we're going back to the pre-steroid era in terms of the length of careers. It seems like most of these guys are dropping off a cliff production-wise after they turn 30.
yes, it's called normal
sometime abnormal >> normal
Normal isn't as entertaining. Seeing these guys hit their prime in their 20′s and decline years in their early 30s is not so fun as a fan.
It's their bodies. If they want to take the risk so be it.
Me too. These days, it would be impossible to see a middle infielder on the wrong side of 35 hit .300.
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or have no idea about Derek Jeter's past few years.
Mike Axisa,
The writing in this post is so poor that I have very little idea what the author is trying to say. Please get him an editor next time.
If he's actually advocating PED use without tongue in cheek, then don't bother getting him an editor.
I gotta say, I'm a little confused by your response, Door. Are you saying you'd be okay with the article if the author is advocating steroids? Maybe someone ought to get you an editor. #justsayin
Um, no. I'm saying the opposite. As in, "don't bother editing it, just throw it out."
Someone didn't read the article.
Good article. The moral question isn't nearly as stark from the player's perspective. These are men, not abstractions. If they don't use, they're out of baseball with no real training to do anything else job wise. Most of these guys have dedicated their lives to the game just to get to the cusp of success. Melky Cabrera signed as a 17 year old, this is all he's ever done.
On the other hand, if they break a rule that has no real consequences as far as personal punishment, they can secure a lifetime of security for their families. Their kids and grandkids are in elite private schools with the type of money we're talking about. I don't even think you can call that greed, just about every man I know would take that deal for their families. What if your kid needs an operation down the road and you decided to keep your conscience lily white instead of risking a 50 game suspension, talk to me about morality then.
The financial punishment for getting caught using PED's needs to be way harsher for them to be discouraged by this class of player, and the punishments need to be more nuanced. Lifetime bans for a first offense should exist under the right conditions.
One of the biggest points missed in this piece is that it doesn't state that he worked his ass off after his NYY/Atl career.
Melky was known of being "lazy" and after his piss-poor year in Atlanta, he matured/adjusted/corrected/started his workout program and went to the AAAA Royals team. PEDs made him a star, he likely was a decent starter if he put in the time.
PEDs mean different things to different players. In cases like Jose Canseco it meant that he could be an actual player (he was a runt & couldn't put on weight or mass). Melky likely had the body style to succeed but was lacking the dedication required to be great.
Jose…PEDs made him an get there and excel into a star.
Melky…PEDs made him a star, after he got there.
It's unhealthy to anyone whether your job is on the line or not . The fact that its taken doesn't mean it should be encouraged. Especially to people who are vulnerable not to mention the example you are setting for the youth! Whether a player is good or not you are encouraging someone to do something that is unhealthy and life threatening. The fact that are other things that peope do that are not healthy doesn't change that and neither does the fact that their career is at stake. This article is encouraging unhealthy living and is a disappointment in so many ways!
I didn't get the impression that the author was advocating players take steroids. I think he was just saying that the current system is relatively easy going with the penalties so a lot of players are willing to take the risk.
I'm sorry Matt, I like the weekend writers but this is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
People cheat for a reason-to play better and thus make more money. So of course in that sense it's a good idea to cheat. It's a good idea for me to cheat in school too. Or to cheat in cards. Sure I may get caught, but if it's AFTER I win the money why should I care?
So why did we need an article telling us that the reason people cheat is to get better? And that getting better is a good thing? Of course it is. that's why you risk cheating to do it.
This was dumb, dude.
Bad articles happen when the most exciting news is resigning Ichiro..pretty bad premise, pretty bad ideas…not worthwhile conclusion…so don't jump on me for my article…but I'll write it anyway.
Well you have the right to feel however you want about my article. Your refund is surely in the mail…
I think, though, that you may have missed the primary point of the article. What motivated me to write this piece was a conversation I had with a buddy of mine about how under the current rules and regulations of MLB are such that for a lot of players the risk of punishment really seems overshadowed by potential reward.
I am not sure players would take the chance nearly as frequently if, say, they faced a two year suspension for a first time offense. Or if their paycheck was directly impacted. My example was Melky Cabrera who basically saw his career go from floundering to a decent payday. But hey, that's just my take.
But, yeah, thanks for your candid feedback. Duly noted.
Whoa whoa whoa Matt, get off the high horse with this refund bullshit. I'll turn this around on you-you don't HAVE to write here you know. If you don't like the feedback, please stop at any time, it's your prerogative. Just like it's my prerogative to comment.
If that was your point, then I agree-the penalty definitely needs to be stiffer. I just think it's something I could have written in a blog comment in this sentence:
"They really need to make the penalty for steroid use stiffer. I mean Melky got caught but is EARNING money because of it. Not cool."
But yeah, if that's what you meant it's not as dumb as I originally thought. But then instead of "MLB players should consider cheating", which is dumb, it really should be "MLB should either scrap the steroid rule or make the penalty stiffer"-which is an interesting conversation.
Look man, you and everyone else are obviously more than welcome to offer your opinions on anything I write. I get that it's a public forum. But come on dude…when the very first sentence of your includes "this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read" don't be shocked by a little bit of sarcasm in my reply. No hard feelings.
The argument "I don't care about PEDs because it's more fun to watch baseball with PEDs in the game" reminds me a bit of the "human element" umpire argument-that getting rid of umpires would rob us from some of the most memorable moments in baseball, a la the Jeffrey Maier incident. Sure it made for a more exciting game, but on the other hand there are rules, and just because the game is sometimes cooler when they're broken doesn't mean it's okay to break them.
The players who used PEDs broke the rules. While I sympathize with a lot of them and probably would have done exactly as they did, I still shouldn't have.
What I'm seeing here is that a lot of the guys here are willing to give players a pass because they would have probably done the same thing. I probably would have to.
But you know what? That STILL doesn't make it right. When you cheat at a game, it's not ethical. If I can win a million dollars cheating in a game, it's not ethical. If I can win a million dollars if I cheat when everybody else is cheating, it's still unethical to cheat. All of these things just make the situation more unfair. None of them make cheating okay.
I think there should be less of a stigma on whistle blowing-when you're in a competition weeding out people who are getting an unfair edge should not be looked at as a bad thing.
I think it is more likely Melky always at the very least dabbled with PED's, but just got serious about his training after his disaster with Atlanta. Even among the players using PED's, the ones with the most discipline and smartest training will surpass more amateur, less disciplined training techniques even if the players are also using PED's.
Nice article Matt. It's food for thought especially with a very interesting HOF voting coming up that will be heavily influenced by PEDs.
i always admire baseball players because i love baseball so much..
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Boudreau said Theodore is playing better right now than he was at the start of last season, and he's had some success in this building so that's why he earned the nod tonight. Not to nitpick, but "he's our No. 1 goaltender" was not part of the rationale.
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Obama is positioning himself not a bold leader, but more the capital's referee.
America's most iconic presidents demonstrated bold leadership during trying times. The best examples were George Washington during the Revolutionary War and in the early days of the fragile republic; Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War; and Franklin Roosevelt during the Depression and World War II. All of them led the nation with decisiveness and an inspirational quality that stood the test of time. But President Obama is positioning himself as something different, not a bold leader in this iconic mold, but more as the capital's referee.
Today's challenges aren't easy. Obama is trying to sort out a host of very tough issues, including budget priorities, the debt ceiling, entitlement programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, and the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya. But Obama hasn't emerged as the kind of daring and charismatic leader that many voters expected when they elected him in 2008. Rushing to the front lines of the battle is not Obama's style. [See photos of unrest in Libya.]
This reluctance, what one Democratic strategist called "a policy of hesitation," has been the target of growing criticism from both Republicans and some Democrats, and a concern of everyday Americans. "The president isn't leading," House Speaker John Boehner told reporters. "He didn't lead on last year's budget, and he clearly is not leading on this year's budget." Among Democrats who have recently criticized Obama for failing to move to the forefront on budget issues are Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Rep. John Conyers of Michigan. Overall, only about half of Americans say Obama is a strong and decisive leader, a decline from 73 percent two years ago and 60 percent a year ago, according to the Gallup Poll.
Obama's speech last week on the deficit was designed in part to ease these concerns, but he came very late to the debate over entitlements, and, while he was more specific than in the past, his address didn't qualify as ground-breaking. Instead, it established Obama as one voice among many in the budget fight, a very important voice, to be sure, but not one that will drown out everyone else. [Check out a roundup of political cartoons on the federal budget and deficit.]
Despite the obstacles ahead, Obama is still in a relatively strong position to be re-elected. The field of potential Republican challengers is considered lackluster. And many voters have concluded that the country's problems are so severe that America can't afford a failed presidency, so they are rooting for Obama to succeed, according to pollsters of both major parties. Obama remains a very likable figure as an individual, is seen as smart and well-intentioned, and is considered a good family man who has a strong character, which is a powerful buffer that softens negative assessments of his policies. The latest CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll finds that the country is almost evenly split on his presidency, with 50 percent disapproving his job performance and 48 percent approving. [Check out a roundup of political cartoons on the 2012 GOP candidates.]
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We knew it was coming, and today is the day. AT&T has officially released OS 18.104.22.1687 for the BlackBerry Bold 9000. Head on over to the BlackBerry download page and get on it - Visual Voice Mail is waiting for you. You should also be able to run the wireless upgrade via Settings > Advanced Options > Upgrade. This is an official carrier OS, but if you're not on AT&T you'll have to delete the vendor.xml file before installing. Check out the links below for more information. Thanks to Morganizer for the screen cap.
FLIP954RR Aug 25, 2009 at 12:42 pm
any difference if you download from OTA or tru DM?
Lex82 Aug 25, 2009 at 12:47 pm
ATT has the newest OS for the bold! They are usually the last to update.
Gaiking Aug 25, 2009 at 12:48 pm
...Will there be an os update for the 8900 from AT&T that does the same by bringing VVM to the 8900?
tinneycj Aug 25, 2009 at 12:51 pm
I'm pretty sure it wasn't there before. If you go into the mobile network settings, you can now force 2G only.
jkings Aug 25, 2009 at 1:34 pm
good update...it was in the last one. wondering what's new in this one
laollis Aug 25, 2009 at 1:16 pm
It says patch on the site.
sourkevin Aug 25, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Did the OTA update on one Bold, downloading the update for its replacement...
sourkevin Aug 25, 2009 at 1:17 pm
and they give u pacman...
Chief Beefalo Aug 25, 2009 at 1:18 pm
The ability to do 2G only was also part of the update.
It is however, rather annoying that it put all of these games and new application downloads on my phone... Very frustrating cause now i have to go through there and delete all the crap.
Come on RIM... Don't pull a DELL and start pre-loading tons of crap that i don't want on the system.
Jonneh Aug 25, 2009 at 3:14 pm
2G option was found in .282. So it's not new. I wonder if there's any differences with this :/
Chief Beefalo Aug 25, 2009 at 5:50 pm
I don't believe that .282 was a ATT update... I could be wrong though.
MooPenguin32 Aug 25, 2009 at 1:22 pm
After downloading the update OTA, it said it could take up to 2 hours to upgrade. Because of this, I scheduled it to update at 12 AM. I'm currently backing up my Bold just in case.
illmaticone Aug 25, 2009 at 1:23 pm
I dont believe its RIM thats putting all these shortcuts on ur phone. im pretty sure its the carrier, in this case AT&T.
sourkevin Aug 25, 2009 at 2:18 pm
hmm... i love at&t.... (that was sarcastic btw....)
lang007 Aug 25, 2009 at 1:34 pm
OTA download took 55 minutes to install
clarkkentsm Aug 25, 2009 at 1:44 pm
i cant wait
dominicsagona3 Aug 25, 2009 at 2:05 pm
just started download hope it doesnt take FOREVER
dannycat Aug 25, 2009 at 2:06 pm
jasonlitka Aug 25, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Why bother uploading to rapidsuck when this isn't a beta? Just download it directly from RIM.
xenigo Aug 26, 2009 at 4:53 am
It's so he can compile and embed spyware and other nefarious applications that will log keystrokes, banking information and such. NEVER - I repeat - NEVER download operating systems hosted anywhere other than directly from the vendor or manufacturer. I don't care what people tell you.
RSAEvents Aug 25, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Anyone else having this problem:
When replying to an SMS, I can't "Remove History".
It won't delete the old text.
Anyone else?
All said and done, it took less than an hour (connected to wifi). Visual Voice Mail is great. Note: to make sure it provisions and works properly, after the update you have to login to your AT&T account (web) and select that you want to activate the VVM. It's free. Seconds later, it was up and running with no hassles.
Also, after the update, do a batter pull and everything will be smooth as silk.
Thus far, the OS appears to have better memory management, too.
QUESTION: the update does put a bunch of AT&T "crap" icons/apps on your home screen. How do you get rid of those (I can "hide," but want to delete totally). Any suggestions?
You can delete the service books, but it will all reappear next time resend them. They're just launchers, not actual apps, so it's best to just hide them and forget.
sourkevin Aug 25, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Just finished the 2nd OTA update... anyone know about/or why some of my programs are now archived? or how to archive a program?
The ones that got archived were facebook and GPS Tracker... odd that it didnt do it on my other bold...
lovelydama Aug 26, 2009 at 3:39 am
Yeah, I had archived programs too and when I went to restore them, it made my screen freeze and I had to do a battery pull.
dmarcus48 Aug 25, 2009 at 3:11 pm
OK I upgraded the os and everything seems ok. I did a test vm and I saw the vm icon. Did a few things, now i don't see the icon anymore. I remember reading that visual voice mail is part of this release, do I have to do anything to get this activated?
Nevermind I got it, had to call AT&T and have them activate the feature.
jolaislagrl Aug 25, 2009 at 2:44 pm
im liking the visual voicemail but why oh why am i getting texts AND visual voicemail alerts? this is annoying! help!
Why would I want to force 2g? Isnt one of the points of having the Bold to be on the 3G netowork?
Chief Beefalo Aug 25, 2009 at 5:56 pm
a lot of the time, you are not doing anything with your phone that requires a high speed data connection. 2G uses less battery power, so you can use it when you aren't doing anything heavy with your phone... I just leave mine in 2G mode now to increase the bat life. If i am going to use my browser or any data-hungry app, i flip it back over to 3G. It only takes a second to switch back and forth.
I don't live in a 3G area, but when I travel to the closest one my battery only lasts about 2/3 as long.
lancexgonzalez Aug 25, 2009 at 3:06 pm
does anyone have a full list of everything new that came out with the update?
lancexgonzalez Aug 25, 2009 at 3:11 pm
do we have to delete the old software or did the software update take care of that? i thought i read somewhere that we may have to delete the older version of the software?
juris98 Aug 25, 2009 at 3:20 pm
I have an AT&T Bold running 4.6.0167. I've tried "checking for upgrades" in the Options/Advanced Options/Wireless Upgrade menu, but the request returns "No Upgrades Available".
Shouldn't I be able to update the OS through this function or am I required to download the new OS to my desktop first?
macbryant822#CB Aug 25, 2009 at 3:29 pm
You are doing it correctly you may have to call AT&T
captaincaa Aug 25, 2009 at 7:50 pm
...but getting it going. Lost more than I would've liked even with backup for some reason. Oh well...
macbryant822#CB Aug 25, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Some people who are Att Customers will have to go on to ATT wireless website and go to Manage Features and Select Visual Voicemail to actually make it work
sourkevin Aug 25, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Just checked my services... now att navigator is free????
saved the print as pdf if anyone is wondering...
applejosh Aug 25, 2009 at 5:23 pm
re: Navigator, free for 30 days. Then the charges kick in. When you click on details or select it and follow through, I believe it discloses this.
sourkevin Aug 25, 2009 at 5:26 pm
told att customer support that this was misleading... told them that it should say that the At&t Navigator Trial is priced at $0.00
harryzwd Aug 25, 2009 at 3:43 pm
updated, reset phone, resent service books, etc. went online to att to enable visual voicemail and it of course tells me that this option is not available for my phone/hardware. way to go att...idiots. anyone else having trouble with enabling this feature in their online account?
sourkevin Aug 25, 2009 at 3:47 pm
with at&t cust. support now...
we reset vm, restarted phone, reconciled messages, restart phone....
ive checked my services, visual vm is an option and enabled..
voicemails are still be sent as usual and not using the visual vm prog... ill let u know if i get it working...
sourkevin Aug 25, 2009 at 5:28 pm
got it working, they had the wrong provisioning on my account (advance tech support fixed) and then she updated my imei to verify... restarted and it worked!
harryzwd Aug 25, 2009 at 4:17 pm
att had the wrong imei associated with my phone so their system didn't see that i had a bold. once they fixed the imei issue, i could add the visual voicemail feature via my account online then set it up on my phone within a few moments of that. tested and working ;)
MannieInches Aug 25, 2009 at 4:22 pm
I went thru the prompts... after telling me I didnt have enough space and needed to free up memory i updated the OS.
Visual Voicemail didnt work... logged on to attwireless.com selected visual voicemail in my plans section. updated it. tried it again on my phone and was able to set it up. pretty cool how it shows the number and it plays back on the blackberry music player screen.
draco1277 Aug 25, 2009 at 5:39 pm
did the update ota first thing this morning. everything works well even the bbm 5.0 that didnt get erased like most other updates. As far as the visual voice mail, ummm could use some work, its free and you have to turn the service on with att, yes its free i called customer service to verify the claim. as far as how it works, it will play the voice mail in your media player and show you where the number came from like the missed call wasnt good enough. as far as the update as a whole i think its no diffrent from the .282 that rogers had out a few months ago and the addition to switching between 2g and 3g helps when driving long distances where 3g may be scarce, but the 5.0 update is what im really waiting for.
Rockafella Aug 25, 2009 at 6:32 pm
I will just stick with using youmail. As long as your not calling the voicemail your not using any minutes. You can accomplish everything through the icon or you can just log in on the mobile youmail site and accomplish other features. Plus I can save my voicemails and they don't get deleted after 30 days. I like being able to keep what I want for as long as I want. Plus there is no limit to the number of voicemails. Also keeps a history of the calls which is good to go back and look at incase you didn't have a number and more.VVM is a good step FINALLY for AT&T but a little late because they took to long.
Kevin21 Aug 25, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Has anyone notice that their application memory increase? I still have the same 18 apps I had before the upgrade, and now I have 42.5MB of free space. Before I used to have 18MB.
Kaptain75329 Aug 25, 2009 at 9:04 pm
This was one of the first things I noticed. I've also noticed that memory frees up from time to time. Memory management is vastly improved here.. this was one of my gripes about the phone and thankfully it's been addressed. I'm noticing some faster performance overall, even if there's been some slight increase in lag with some other things. Boot times are better too - down to slightly over 3 minutes on my device from what used to be just under 5.
jcgsl Aug 26, 2009 at 12:11 am
Same here. I averaged about 15MB and now with the same apps and BES I started out with 42MB. A lot of playing around has me down to 27MB now but I bet if I reboot I will see 42 again.
jpres1 Aug 25, 2009 at 8:02 pm
I can't get an OTA update...
and I have a mac so this is UNdownloadable....
....What do i do?
Does this OS work on rogers network?
Crunch Aug 25, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Go straight to AT&T's website for 220.127.116.117, which includes the Visual Voice Mail for the Bold, and the Bold ONLY at this time. The SOC code is BBVV (BlackBerry Visual Voicemail), and the guy who applied it to my account took a while, but eventually got it going. Under the Features section, in the Voicemail section (all the way at the bottom) you will see it, once it has been successfully activated. Other devices will get their Visual VoiceMail, but this is for the BOLD only! :D
I tried OTA, which was NOT successful.
Remember, the easiest way to do this: Just tell them you want SOC code BBVV applied to your account.
The feature itself is free (it has better "specs" than Enhanced Voicemail :) ), but, naturally, you need a Blackberry plan for it work.
Have fun! Finally, AT&T is #1 as far as Blackberry OS's for now. Now that's a first we should all celebrate, obsess about, and prey to, the great BlackBerry Gods...until Homeland Security arrests us.
joseatnj Aug 25, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Does anyone know if after the update the beta version of bbm 5.0 gets deleted.??
Dparkx81 Aug 25, 2009 at 11:11 pm
I'm getting an error message saying I don't have enough memory space. I have a micro SD 8g in. How do I save it to that? Thanks
lemthecool Aug 25, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Tetris, Scrabble, Pac-Man, and Brain Challenge are all free with the update. Or so I think. Can anyone confirm this?!
jcgsl Aug 26, 2009 at 12:13 am
Pac-Man is free for about 3 minutes. Gave it to my 5yr old and said "hey look pac-man" 3 minutes later I was paying $6.99 to stop the crying!
jcgsl Aug 26, 2009 at 12:15 am
MobiTv is pre-loaded. Last I check at the ATT store this was not compatable with the BOLD. Looks good now. (for $9.99 a month).
Dparkx81 Aug 26, 2009 at 12:11 am
The message reads Not enough available memory to store downloaded fileds. Delete 9.4 MB of personal data from device memory and then resume download. I have a Micro SD 8G Card. Please help! THanks
lovelydama Aug 26, 2009 at 2:59 am
Did you try doing a battery pull? I did this and it fixed itself. had only 6.4 mb free and after battery pull it went to 17.4 mb free. After os upgrade, I know have 27.2 mb free.
samlk1588 Aug 26, 2009 at 1:24 am
anyone do any analysis on battery life after changing to 2g? talk time? stand by time?
blackletter Aug 26, 2009 at 1:46 am
Yes, the OS v22.214.171.1247 comes with Tetris, PacMan, etc.
The OS upgrade was very easy. I did an Over-The-Air download and then went online to my AT&T account to add the Visual Voicemail feature. Everything went very smoothly and now I'm enjoying my Bold even more.
The Bold is BY FAR RIM's finest engineered mobile device! Love the Bold!
FYI, I'm still operating on 3G. I would never go back to 2G.
kablaamo Aug 26, 2009 at 2:45 am
Does holding down the blackberry button still bring up the application switcher. And will bbm 5.o be deleted?
lovelydama Aug 26, 2009 at 3:01 am
Yes it does! I never knew it did that. I was still trying to manage the alt and back key thing. Thanks!
da HNIC Aug 27, 2009 at 8:38 pm
mines doesnt pop up.. it jus pulls up the menu screen.. :-(
I actually like the new games & applications. RIM is working hard to keep me from switching to iPhone. Even after 6 years with Blackberry, the 3GS is tempting. This is my 3rd Bold since November, and for the past week it finally seems stable! Lets hope this new OS holds its own.
bebaegurl Aug 26, 2009 at 10:49 am
OTA worked. Took a couple tries. I'd say about an hour total. My BBM5.0 didn't get deleted. However, when I looked to see the version it was 5.0.8
ministermarsalis Aug 27, 2009 at 12:20 am
Do I even need to ask if visual voicemail is supported w/ my Bold that's unlocked to T-Mobile? I'm downloading the upgraded OS regardless but VVM would be sweet.
da HNIC Aug 27, 2009 at 6:54 pm
GONNA BE SAFE??? thats my main issue as far the update.. can anyone tell me if thats going to be affected??
lovelydama Aug 27, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Is there any way to turn off the message notification? Not the VVM indicator. The one that shows up in messages is just a duplicate message indicator that is so annoying!
ckurthy Oct 27, 2009 at 2:12 pm
So I got the icon for the wireless upgrade. Attempted the OTA upgrade, let it do it's thing overnight while I was sleeping. Woke up to a screen that said "abnormal reset, press any key to return to prior configuration." Pressed a key...now all my phone does is act like it's starting up then a blank white screen appears, after about 10 second it says "Linking Java" and then turns off. Won't do anything but this and just keeps cycling until the battery dies.
Called AT&T, they couldn't fix it, they send me to their CDS tech people...they couldn't fix it. They send me to RIMs tech support and they tell me to download the OS software to my computer...problem is the computer doesn't recognize that there's a phone hooked up through Desktop Manager. Tried to DL the new OS, but it keeps stopping the download about half way through. I just downloaded a 700mb movie so I know it's not my connection.
Called AT&T and they want me to pay my $125 deductible for a new phone. Such BS!!


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Arena Group raises UK£16.5 million
Event overlay design and management solutions entity the Arena Group, which has been involved in this year's London Olympics and has previously worked at the Wimbledon tennis championships and The Open golf championship, has raised UK£16.5 million in equity fundraising in partnership with specialist sports fund Sports Investment Partners (SIP), and growth capital investor MML Capital.
According to a release announcing the deal, SIP and MML Capital 'will together take a significant minority stake in the leading international event services company, supporting the existing management structure with its plans to develop the global business.'
Matthew Wheeler, managing partner at SIP, will take over as chairman of the Arena Group.
"Arena is a highly visible, successful company, synonymous with world-class performance and the very best in sporting endeavour," said Wheeler. "Growth continues to be steady in the global sports market and Arena is now well positioned to be part of that global growth."
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