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Pastor Sean Harris (motto: "Proclaiming Christ Through a Blog in the 21st Century) gave a sermon on Sunday at his church in Fayetteville NC in which he told parents to beat their children if they showed signs of being gay:
Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over and crack that wrist. Man up. Give him a good punch, OK? … You were made by god to be a male and you're going to be a male.And when your daughter starts acting too butch, you rein her in. And you say "Oh no - oh no sweetheart. You can play sports. Play 'em; play 'em to the glory of God. But sometimes you're gonna act like a girl and walk like a girl and talk like a girl and smell like a girl. And that means you're going to be beautiful, you're going to be attractive, you're gonna dress yourself up."
In an "Important Clarification to Sunday's Sermon" that he posted to his blog, Pastor Harris complains that people who disagree with him are using naughty words that hurt his feelings:
Those in the opposition are suggesting all sorts of hateful things and using ungodly and profane words. Those who speak of the love of God are using the most hateful terms I have ever read. We must never resort to such language.
And in his fake apology (with the classic "I apologize to anyone I have unintentionally offended") he says "I have never suggested children or those in the LGBT lifestyle should be beaten, punched, abused (physically or psychologically) in any form or fashion." I guess that part's true, because in his sermon he commanded, rather than suggested, fathers to punch their gay sons.
Pastor Sean Harris Tells Congregation to Punch Their Gay Sons (Via Cynical-C)Discuss
173 Responses to "Pastor Sean Harris: crack the wrists and punch children you suspect of being gay"
mappo says:
Like the good book says: spare the rod, spoil the heterosexuality of the child.
Mister44 says:
What a horrible person.
Cowicide says:
And the crowd cheering him on can go to hell too.
Pastor Sean Harris is obviously homosexual and his pent-up frustration has reached a fever pitch of obsession and self-loathing that manifests itself in lashing out at those who are free from his kind of retarded chains.
Sources and evidence:
Pastor Sean Harris, come out of the closet already.
Palomino says:
That was the part I enjoyed, it was only a smattering. If you listen again, he almost stumbles, then presses forward like a comedian who doesn't get a laugh. We first have to find out how many people were in the audience. If there were hundreds, then his "speech" didn't get much of a response.
curiousrobot says:
Sounded like a pretty nervous uncomfortable sort of laughter to me. At least I hope so. Disclaimer: I could only get through about 90 seconds of this.
EH says:
If it puts your mind at ease, history tells us that he's almost assuredly gay himself.
Jason Schmurr says:
So, basically, even homophobia is the fault of gay people. Nice.
BunnyShank says:
nah just the fault of this gay guy
Guest says:
every phobia is the fault of self loathing.
EH says:
Just making an observation based on the news. Is homophobia from the closeted really such a scandalous probability?
Preston Sturges says:
Waiting for him to be caught knob gobbling in an interstate highway rest area bathroom in 3, 2, 1….
Sagodjur says:
"Uh…no, I wasn't committing an ungodly act. I was…uh…just about to punch this gay gentleman in the balls and tell him to man up…I was just down on my knees so I could make sure I was punching him in the right place…"
Preston Sturges says:
I'm pretty certain that this guy is going to get one of those wonderful deadpan fan letters from Militia Commander General JC Christian (aka Jesus' General) at http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/
Gen. JC Christian is an expert on the insidious peril of homosexuality, and frequently consults with other experts on the homosexual agenda, especially those whose "little soldiers" seek the manly fellowship of interstate truckers and gladiator movies.
"………I'll never forget the day I first heard you speak about how your "wife's vagina was enough." I remember silently praying as I heard it, "please God, give me what this man has. I too want to be satisfied by my wife's vagina."
He eventually answered that prayer, but I have to admit it was something with which I had to struggle for many months. It just didn't seem very manly to put my little soldier into such a warm and snuggly place. And it wasn't just a mental thing. Private Johnson would mutiny by refusing to come to attention every time I tried it.Then one night, after a couple of failed attempts, I turned on the tee vee next to the bed. Ben Hur was on. It was the scene where Chuck Heston is reunited with his old friend, Stephen Boyd. And what do you know, suddenly my little soldier was raring to go. I immediately made another attempt on the vagina, craning my neck so I could see the television screen, and by gosh it worked. Finally, my wife's vagina was enough for me too–that and a copy of Ben Hur (I later learned that John Wayne's Sands of Iwo Jima and anything featuring Abe Vigoda work as well). I think it's because the addition of the movie made the vagina seem just a little less girlie.
Following your advice on masturbation was much easier. Like with you, the choice of underwear played a key role in defeating the temptation. The briefs I had worn up until then were a problem. They squeezed my manparts, and in doing so, aroused me. Boxers were no better. They allowed my Private Johnson to swing freely, his helmet constantly brushing against the fabric in a seductive dance that fueled the flames of my lust like a burst of gasoline in the number three cylinder of a 427 Hemi.
It was only after I began wearing silky ladies underthings that my libido finally went into sleep mode. The deep red, french cut panties you find at Victoria's Secret seem to work the best, although I enjoy the nice black g-string trimmed with white lace and crimson hearts I picked up at Frederick's of Hollywood too….."
Antinous / Moderator says:
please God, give me what this man has. I too want to be satisfied by my wife's vagina.
Demonic raisins, I rebuke you.
Palomino says:
It was Midnight Express for me.
dbergen says:
I'm just picturing the freakout that would have occured if this was footage of the president of the American Athiests saying the same thing.
xunker says:
I think there *would* be a huge freakout, but primarily because the President of the American Atheists is probably a sane person and a sane person saying crazy things is exceptional.
A nutjob saying crazy things is less unexpected.
(And yes, for those who can't read between the lines, I am saying Pastor Harris is a nutjob. Telling fathers to "give him a good punch" is not advocating discipline, it's advocating domestic violence.)
Genre Slur says:
I wouldn't call the head of an atheist group 'sane'. Technically, the sane ones appear to be multi-model agnostic. They're the only ones basing their model on the actual evidence, but please continue.
Post Script — that Harris guy seems like a very bad man. *shudder*
Michael Rosefield says:
When you consider so many options for the nature of reality that the theistic ones occupy a tiny, arbitrary and really rather silly corner off to the side somewhere, well, why not call yourself an atheist?
That's what I do. 'God' just isn't remotely interesting or justified enough to merit the technically-correct but massively misleading term 'agnosticism' for my beliefs.
I imagine some might call me arrogant and dismissive, but they should pause first to consider that I am merely being as honest as I can be.
FrodeSvendsen says:
This, very much this.
I've also tried to explain it thusly; I just don't care what label the religious deem to paint me with. If there truly exists a pink tea-pot floating out in space somewhere, it has no relevance to my life.
wysinwyg says:
Go ahead and find a head of an atheist group that is demonstrably insane. I'll be waiting. For a very long time.
bardfinn says:
I've interacted with two individuals who are:
Leader(s) of Atheist group(s);
IMNSHO (but not a medical one) clinically insane.
Atheism is simply a lack of belief in deities. It's neither a certification of sanity nor a certification of insanity.
Hitler and Stalin: Both atheists. Both insane. QED.
Preston Sturges says:
Cardinal Richelieu -Catholic
Napolean – Catholic
Hitler – Catholic turned pagan
Stalin – Catholic turned atheist
Mussolini – Catholic
Franco – Catholic
Pinochet – Catholic
Deidzoeb says:
Agnostic is a subset of atheism, depending on how you define atheism. Some of us think of it as lacking a belief in god(s), which is not exactly a position we need to prove.
As far as agnostic being better or more reasonable or (fucking ugh) "sane" than atheist, I think of it in terms of the way people describe their beliefs or lack of beliefs in unicorns or leprechauns. No one identifies herself as "agnostic" on the question of unicorns. Generally we just say unicorns are a myth, or unicorns do not exist. If pressed by unicorn-believers, we can admit that we have no proof of the nonexistence of unicorns. But it still doesn't seem hypocritical to phrase it that way. I can't prove that unicorns don't exist. It is reasonable not to believe they exist even if I don't have proof. If new evidence comes in, I will re-examine the question.
But since our culture is dominated by theists, we've developed this whole way of quibbling when it comes to that question. We have to say that we lack a belief in gods (i.e. atheist), but point out that we can't prove the nonexistence of gods (agnostic subset). Why do we have to go out of our way to specify that, but we don't have to go out of our way to say it when talking about the likely nonexistence of Quetzlcoatl or Osiris or Zeus or jackalopes? Apparently we have to go out of our way depending on how popular the myth is in our culture. If enough people start to have unsupported faith in the existence of chupacabras, the rest of us with healthy skepticism on the matter will have to call ourselves "agnostics" on the question of chupacabras?
LightningRose says:
Well said, Deidzoeb.
I sometimes point out to deists that they are already atheist with regards to thousands of deities and I simply believe in one deity fewer than they do.
bkad says:
Yes, well said. I don't think it is necessarily a problem though. If I identify myself as agnostic rather than atheist it isn't because of the literal denotation of those words. It is out of sensitivity to the different connotations of the terms in American English. "Agnostic" means "Even if I disagree with it, I will not mock or attack your faith; you can feel safe around me, and even feel comfortable sharing aspects of your religious life." "Atheist" has a much colder and more judgmental connotation. Since I personally value getting along with my fellow humans much more than being forceful/accurate about my opinions, I lean toward using the gentler (in American English) term.
VentureFree says:
Theism and gnosticism are actually orthogonal concepts. One isn't a subset of another, and they're not different points on the same "belief" continuum. Theism is about what you believe, whereas gnosticism is about what you know. They are independent variables.
You can be a Gnostic Theist (I believe in God because we can and do know that He exists) or a Gnostic Atheist (I don't believe in God because we can and do know that He does not exist). These seem to be the stances that most people assume are being argued when debating about religion. But of course you can also be an Agnostic Theist (I believe in God even though we can't know with certainty that he actually exists) or an Agnostic Atheist (I don't believe in God even though we can't know with certainty that he does not exist).
In my experience most believers tend to be Gnostic Theists while most non-believers tend to be Agnostic Atheists. That fact alone tends to gum up the works in most religious debates. One side is in effect arguing *based on* what is known while the other side is arguing about *whether* it is known. Not recognizing that distinction eventually leads to confusion as both sides end up arguing half about one thing and half about the other without realizing there's even a difference.
Edit: fixed the weird line breaks
Moonpie Nobot says:
"They're the only ones basing their model on the actual evidence" What evidence?
Palomino says:
Excellent point, this is to be expected, so we shouldn't be shocked. Maybe it's on BB because it's a new low? I don't know.
I appreciate guys like this, he has his convictions. It's the ones who share them in secret, donate money, create a PAC.
Your comment proves there's worse closets than gay ones.
Palomino says:
Below: Hitler & Stalin were fake Atheists. Before they discovered it, they hated the idea of God, didn't like the idea they had anyone to answer to or be below of. They were the supreme rulers, omnipotent. If you think yourself omnipotent, then you default to Atheism or an Agnostic.
Some people search out a belief system that fits their current beliefs best. If you're homophobic, go to this church. If you are a dirty old man and want to have sex with young girls, find a backwater Mormon church.
Just like websites and apps, there's a religion for that, that, and that.
EH says:
It's basically ignorant to call the Nazis atheists.
devophill says:
RaleighSaintClair says:
this hatred makes me feel so religious.
Nell Anvoid says:
Wrist braces. The only solution.
John P says:
Poor Pastor Sean's delicate fee-fees. I'd give even money on the whole repressed/self loathing thing, but I wouldn't want to wish this monster on the gay community.
T. O'Huva says:
minor point but you mean "rein her in"
Pat Popov says:
What a homophone!
Mark_Frauenfelder says:
Fixed it — thanks! I've made that mistake before (and I'll probably make it again.)
taj1f says:
In this clip he's clearly advocating…encouraging physical violence towards innocent children, finding their way in the world. What a tool.
Guest says:
If you let them find their own way they'll never grow up wracked with the sort of guilt that fills donation trays.
kleinfelter says:
Kids! The moment your pastor shows signs of homophobia, tell your Dad (or your Mom) to
"Man up. Give him a good punch, OK?"
If it is OK for a pastor to advocate violence against children, it is high time children advocate violence against the pastor.
Guest says:
freethinking is violence, to some
Cowicide says:
Right, if this pastor is advocating violence for homosexual tendencies, then he should knock himself out cold.
bardfinn says:
No one has to stoop to this asshat's level. When your pastor advocates domestic violence, stand up, shout him down, walk out, and file a criminal complaint. This is criminal.
YamaraTheGod says:
Christians who aren't Christian enough should be crucified.
Christ up, and give him a good cross, okay?
Sam Ley says:
I don't know what sort of "hateful words" he's talking about, but "punch your children" is pretty high up on my list of "hateful words" that people might say about each other.
RachelF says:
The missing context is that many NC churches are pushing to pass Amendment One on 5/8, so unfortunately you can probably expect more horribleness from a lovely state to get posted on Monday….
IronEdithKidd says:
Oh, so he's simply flirting with revocation of his tax-exempt status. Well, then, carry on. Nothing to see here.
Preston Sturges says:
Unfortunately sermonizing about "issues" is fine with the IRS, it's just not supposed to endorse candidates.
However, it was great that this vote is not part of the November ballot where it would be used to bring out the church vans packed with GOP voters. That is the usual strategy.
Lalo Martins says:
Oh yes, nasty language isn't the response to this. Pressing charges for discrimination and encouraging domestic violence, yes. A person like that needs to be in jail.
(No, I don't believe everybody who is prejudiced and/or encourages domestic violence should be sent to jail. But everybody who does that to an audience, yes.)
Steve Lord says:
I'm not a lawyer, but from my reading of North Carolina general statutes:
"crack that wrist" sounds like "serious bodily injury" (assuming the time the wrist would need to spend in a cast counts as "protracted".) So basically this person is encouraging parents to commit a felony. If any of those parents follow through, doesn't that make him an accomplice?
bardfinn says:
Federal statute holds that anyone who " … aids, abets, commands, counsels, induces or procures a crime…" shall be considered to be prosecutable as having actually committed the crime.
kleinfelter says:
And in that apology, he mentions "sexual immorality." I say it is high time for "sexual immorality" to include homophobia.
morcheeba says:
When I get beyond the horror of what he's saying, I find it funny that his religion is against the alleged symptoms, and not the feelings underneath. I guess he'd be ok with lesbians as long as they were fem and not butch? What a crappy preacher.
petertrepan says:
I may be wrong, but I don't think there's any Biblical prohibition against lesbians, either in Leviticus or from Paul in the New Testament. I find that interesting. Maybe it's missing from Leviticus's health-centric code because they had some equivalent to HIV back then and it didn't really apply to lesbians, but I suspect it's missing from Paul's bigotry because he's a man, and I've never known any man to be truly hostile to the idea of lipstick lesbians.
I bet this preacher is relatively okay with fem lesbians for the same reason, even if he doesn't realize it.
bardfinn says:
He's preaching from a doctrine that was introduced to the Bible by translators. the Gospels include two versions of a tale of Jesus in which a roman centurion tells Jesus of his concern for his distant male lover, and Jesus blesses the centurion and his lover.
The homophobia angle is a political piece of bullshit, supported by a Levitican edict that only applied to priests (he who lies with a man as with a woman…).
Jose says:
WWJD? Because, verily, a guy who spent his entire life hanging out with a bunch of other guys was undoubtedly a homophobe like the "good" pastor here. And didn't Jeebus preach violence against those he didn't agree with?
Marja Erwin says:
Not exactly, 'cause Jesus hung out with both men and womyn, it's just the womyn have been erased from the popular understanding of the story or have been redrawn to fit male-defined narratives of sinfulness.
bardfinn says:
Hallelujah and speak to it.
Antinous / Moderator says:
Hmm. He hung with his mom and a hooker whom he wasn't boning. Wink. Wink. Nudge. Nudge.
Wow, there are a lot of gay Last Supper images.
PhosPhorious says:
Two points:
1) "Dropping the limp wrist." Dot tumblr dot com.
2) What if your kid is into S&M?
bardfinn says:
There's nothing in the Old Testament that forbids S&M explicitly, just the tale of Sodom and Gomorrah, which discusses promiscuity, licentiousness, and paedophilia.
Jonathan Roberts says:
Specifically, depicting one of the 'heroes' of the Old Testament promoting paedophilia as a more acceptable alternative to gay sex with a house guest.
Andy says:
Complete D-bag. I guess lying isn't a sin now??? He says you should hit your children, then he claims that's not what he said. Welcome to the public record of your advocating violence against children, then lying about it.
starfish and coffee says:
But he did say "Give him a *good* punch". Which is like, you know, not one of those *bad* punches, so…
nixiebunny says:
How about a nice Hawaiian punch?
[You have to be nearing 50 to get that.]
IronEdithKidd says:
No you don't. I'm not even 40 and Hawaiian Punch was my favorite "juice" as a kid.
chgoliz says:
Thanks to YouTube, my children are fully versed in 1960s and 70s pop culture references.
bardfinn says:
My mother would repeat that throughout my childhood (1980′s).
Granted, my mother is incapable of restraining herself from committing domestic violence.
Palomino says:
Yeah, he should have been more "subversive"; "Give him a good V8″ or "Give him a good Safe Auto".
doggo says:
Oh, I think nasty language is the best possible response to this jagoff (but I could be wrong.) I suggest, no, I command that you always refer to Sean Harris as (and please pardon me, my queer friends) "That fucking faggot, Sean Harris", or "That closeted motherfucker, the Reverend, Flaming, Harris". That is, at every turn, use the most foul, derogatory, epithets used for homosexuals to refer to that fairy, Sean Harris.
I know, I know, "disrespectful", "feeding the hate", "perpetuating", etc. Whatever. Give him a taste of his own medicine, I say. Be as crude as possible, I say.
I know you'll hate my idea. I apologize (in advance) to anyone I have unintentionally offended, except that nancy, Sean Harris.
Preston Sturges says:
"Jagoff?" Go Steelers!
Antinous / Moderator says:
Say, isn't seanharris slang for that crusty bit of pre-cum that sticks to the corner of your mouth?
Palomino says:
Oral smegma? EW!
Antinous / Moderator says:
Maybe that would be a better definition.
seanharris: noun. a frothy mix of spit, smegma and Zima
Palomino says:
I've always loved the word "spittle" since I first heard it used in Dune.
seanharris: noun. a frothy mix of spit, smegma and Zima
And why do I want to scream:
"I've been sexually Harrissed!" (Harrised?)
Preston Sturges says:
When a preacher comes out hating on Teh Gay, does that mean his church is like a gay sex club for rural closet cases? Or is that only sometimes?
Cowicide says:
I'm sure a lot of those guys hooting and praising "Amen!" to the idiot would act just like the hicks in the film Deliverance out in the middle of the woods.
Chuck says:
The part of his speech where he says "Oh no – oh no sweetheart. You can play sports. Play 'em; play 'em to the glory of God" makes me suspect that he's one degree of separation away from the kinds of people who believe that a couple pushups will turn a girl into a lesbian. (That's right — those hotties on the jogging trail in your local park should all be condemned as lesbians, even if they're exclusively attracted to men.)
And I notice he focuses on mannerisms and personal tendencies (limp wrist, :butchiness", etc.) rather than sexual acts or tendencies. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the kind who'd endorse prison rape as something "real men" would do in certain circumstances — either that, or a large number of people in his congregation believe in such things, and he has to keep them satisfied.
scottrose says:
He deserves for a gay man who was tortured for being gay as a child, but is now a hulking weightlifter, to beat the living shit out of him, in the name of any and all eventual gay people in his parish. And, after he is lying on the ground in a bloody pulp, a group of lesbian motorcycle enthusiasts should all take dumps on his face. He now is trying to complain about the nasty language being used against him — as though saying the words "fuck" or "eat shit and die, Sean Harris" really were worse than giving anti-gay bigot parents "special dispensation" to crack their sons' wrists.
Antinous / Moderator says:
I think I rented that film from the corner porn shop in the 90s.
Palomino says:
(So why aren't there a bunch of titles following?)
I choose Charles At Last.
Preston Sturges says:
The Japanese original is so much better than the dubbed version, but it's not on Blu-Ray.
Mister44 says:
1) What about the non-limp-wristed gays? Lots of 'straight acting' gays out there.
2) re: "sexual immorality" – just assuming for a second gay sex is a sin – so is soooo much of the 'straight' sex out there. Worry about yourself.
Kevin Pierce says:
Christ, what an asshole.
nvlady says:
The conservative movement has gone away from their teachings to a, "you are on your own, money is a virtue, and the stereotypes we believe in are the only way to live," mentality.
Christian Capitalism, the ultimate oxymoron. It's the only way they can justify their insatiable desire for greed. Why? Because helping the poor, and not judging are such 'liberal' ways of thinking now. WHAT!!?? When did that happen!?
When did they stop questioning their leaders?
Wreckrob8 says:
I find nothing oxymoronic in Christian capitalism. The two are inseparable.
dnebdal says:
Yes and no. I'm a militant internet atheist on my spare time, but I'll give them this much: Christianity as preached by Jesus doesn't go well with capitalism. Not that any of them care about that – the evidence is almost entirely in your favor.
In other words, it's deeply hypocritical – and thus goes well with most of the rest of mainstream US christianity.
Anon_Mahna says:
didn't the church used to condemn/ban usury?
dnebdal says:
At certain times, yes. And no.
fnc says:
Because beating up on children is such a manly thing to do.
Dree says:
And is known for giving rise to normal, well-adjusted adults who *don't* later pay people to beat them up to remember those strange feelings of intimacy and physical pain.
Mitchell Glaser says:
This hateful priest should be forced into a cage fight with those two marine guys who were pictured kissing when one of them returned home from protecting their country. They would limp-wristedly bitch slap him into paste.
cdh1971 says:
I agree with your sentiment but I think these marines would just chuckle at him much like they would chuckle if they were supposed to cage fight a chihuahua.
On the other hand, even if they were pissed off at him and if he was yapping vile abuse at them, I think they're man enough to show restraint and not beat a weaker person – unlike Pastor Sean Harris.
godfathersoul says:
It's times like this that I wish I could be sitting there in that parish and just stand up and say "what the FUCK are you talking about? Beating kids? Are you crazy?" and then walk out.
But then… I'd have to sit through a lot of sermons to find the right one.
Or I could always be that guy at each and every sermon.
Oooo…. I think I just found a new hobby….
Tynam says:
Damn. Now I almost wish I lived in the US, so I could do this. And document the responses.
godfathersoul says:
Documenting the responses… i see a new youtube meme on the horizon. All you need is one person with a cell phone… that person wouldn't even have to get up and make a scene. they would however have to sit quietly through the rest of the sermon. Call it penance…
PLEASE someone do this. Make multiple videos. Be calmly disruptive.
chgoliz says:
I don't think you'd have to search long to find instances like this one. Just pick the 'right' Protestant denominations — hint: avoid the Quakers and Universalist Unitarians — and you'll be guaranteed a satisfying storm-out every Sunday.
bkad says:
I didn't hear a single comment on homosexuality growing up in church. Granted, it was a fairly liberal church (United Church of Christ — they've been ordaining gay preachers since the 70′s) but from talking to others who grew up in old, north-east US, 'mainline' protestant churches my experience was not that unusual (that is, regardless of what the church 'taught', it wasn't ever discussed). I wonder if churches have only recently started bringing up homosexuality, or if it is a regional thing.
chgoliz says:
I think time and region are both strong factors, but I would put UCC on the UU/Quaker side of the divide, anyway.
Kevin Pierce says:
Obviously, he's speaking from experience.
Drabula says:
For my money the most disgusting part is the guffaws of approval coming from the audience. I wonder if there was one single mother fucker in that crowd whose conscience was prodding them to get up and walk out – OR stand up and shame him (impossible, most likely). One loud mouthed asshole preacher is one thing, but a room full of people voicing approval is another. Damn, I despise the American Taliban.
Cowicide says:
hose conscience was prodding them to get up and walk out
That would require self-awareness. If you have any of that, you wouldn't be there in the first place.
Kathryn says:
Exactly. The a$$hole isn't in a vacuum.
xian says:
He apparently doesn't have a problem with bears, I think I know what his kink is.
MrJM says:
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
– Queen Gertrude, Hamlet, Act III, scene II.
Brie says:
So its official. According to Pastor Sean Harris, God does make mistakes. Or does Pastor Sean Harris feel he is better than God apparently to him God is not making children properly and feels incline to correct Gods obvious mistakes.
asterios9 says:
Meh, he'd deny it is "natural" for a boy to act effeminate or a girl to be butch. He'd blame "society's permissive attitudes and mixed messages," "political correctness" and a "failure of parental guidance."
And underneath all of that, what is the ultimate cause? THE DEVIL. I am not even being facetious. You forget how profoundly irrational Christian theology really is.
petertrepan says:
This sign is one hour from my house. Believe it or not, posters from more secular regions of the country, there are large numbers of people who believe in the literal devilled-ham devil.
noggin says:
That'd be on I-65 near Montgomery. I remember seeing it as a kid on my way to FL and laughed out loud so hard.
Matthew Petty says:
You can't say that Christian theology is irrational until you have been a theological scholar for your entire life. You've got to read all the books!
Jonathan Roberts says:
I grew up in a very active Christian home with a dad who has literally thousands of Christian books. My family has been in full time Christian work since at least the mid 19th century. Since I was probably 7 or 8 I listened to about an hour and a half worth of carefully prepared sermons each week. I've personally done full time Christian work for three years and spent quite a bit of time studying the theology too. I've probably read the Bible six or seven times. When I told my father that I no longer believed in God, he asked me if I had really given God a chance. How can I say I don't believe he exists when I'm giving up on him in my mid twenties?
Wreckrob8 says:
Original sin, the resurrection, redemption, compassion, forgiveness of sins and the incarnation which is the culmination of a process (progess) and which cancels and reverses everything preceding it. Makes perfect sense 'cos fucking makes you die, right? Essentially nothing is permitted and everything is permitted.
Wreckrob8 says:
If God wasn't an almost total fuck-up they wouldn't need saving, would they? I think that is the whole point of Jesus.
bardfinn says:
Ethan Taliesin Houser says:
This is just a degree or two away from gang rape as a "cure" for lesbianism. What a demented asshole.
Green Ghost says:
This is all based on the proven scientific fact that you can punch the "gay" out of kids. I think it was Michelle Bachmann's husband that did the research at his anti-gay clinic. Good thing you can't punch the "straight" out – or can you? Are all the gay kids the result of school bullying?
Antinous / Moderator says:
Good thing you can't punch the "straight" out – or can you?
That depends on what you're punching with, where and how deeply you're punching, and whether or not you can get a good rhythm going.
Genre Slur says:
That man needs to be bent over the altar given a good old-fashioned talking to about how he should love people, regardless of who or how they seem to be.
Post Script — By 'who' and 'how', I refer to them being different than him. Harris doesn't get to sneak absolute values into the conversation (E.G. 'I have to love them even though they are evil?' does not compute).
strugglngwriter says:
Another overlooked bit of the video are the jagoffs shouting "Amen" after he says such hateful things.
Kathryn says:
I found that the most appalling thing about the video. The congregation was full on with him.
sdmikev says:
That's the worst part, to me.
Not shocking, but still terrible. Stupid goobers.
Antinous / Moderator says:
Angling for position in the pack.
Alexandros says:
I have a bunch of words that come to my mind when I see this … lets put this mildly…terrible excuse of a human being.
Only this much, he can be glad that he isn´t here in Germany, public incitement to a criminal offence like child abuse could get him up to five years in prison here. I don´t know how the current legal situation in the US is thou.
bardfinn says:
If someone takes him seriously and does it? 100% prosecutable as an accessory.
SeriousPlay says:
I hope this man sees the error of his ways. If he doesn't, well, maybe he'll get hit by a truck, that would satisfy me too.
cbbb says:
I'm sorry, but isn't this sort of thing inciting violence against children. This seems akin to yelling fire in a crowded theater. I'm all for his right to say stupid things, but this seems to cross the line into inciting dangerous and criminal activity.
I think the authorities should have a discussion with him.
occula says:
Although this is not why I am a terrible disappointment to my parents, I am a straight female person who isn't particularly athletic and is very much not beautiful. I guess I smell okay, but I think he wants my mom to punch me anyway.
Sagodjur says:
Oh, I'm sure he also advocates pre-emptive beatings to make sure your kids don't slip into teh gay. Maybe his other motto is, "a beating a day keeps the gay away!"
Cowicide says:
Well I started out younger at things that people start younger at
And a thousand days and nights of getting overexposed
Then someone asks, "How do you sleep at night?"
With the borrowed dreams from a broken past
You keep runnin' away don't matter how fast or long
You always wind up there
Another thousand pileups in the ugly name of morality
Fucking ugly, some creepy guy keeps asking
"How the fuck do you sleep at night?"
With a frozen dream and a borrowed hope that died
Filth pig, filth pig
I sleep with both eyes open
Filth pig, filth pig
I keep chasing this tail but the tail gets bigger go figure
A thousand more stories keep the fires and flames alive
So how the fuck do I dream at night?
With the memories of a borrowed death, the guilty past
Filth pig, filth pig
He sleeps with both eyes open
Filth pig, filth pig
He sleeps all right because he's a
Filth pig
andre paris says:
i hope more people join Project Reason because of this
petertrepan says:
This preacher demonstrates how speech laws are selectively enforced. Martin Luther King Jr. got arrested repeatedly on incitement charges, but I don't think any of us expect this guy to get frogmarched from the pulpit.
Brainspore says:
Know who else got punched and had his wrists broken for not conforming to social norms? JESUS.
Gutierrez says:
Amen, Brother Brainspore!
Preston Sturges says:
It's also worth pointing out that Fayetteville is one of these most crime ridden towns on the east coast thanks to its army base and proximity to I-95. For a while they had a real impressive string of soldiers killing their wives.
Antinous / Moderator says:
Fayetteville, Arkansas, on the other hand, has been rather gay-friendly since the 1970s.
SoItBegins says:
But the pastor's committing a logical fallacy! What he's talking about is adherence to traditional, societally-mandated gender roles, but that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with homosexuality. A man can be metrosexual without being gay, for example.
typical_academic says:
You should point that out to him, I'm sure he'll make a correction in his next sermon.
PinkWithIndignation says:
Arbitrary gender stereotypes created in the 20th century are exactly what the ancient Hebrew bible describes we beat into our children. Oh, and don't forget all the explicit chapters of gay bashing in that same bible! People have, and always will, use divine will as an excuse to impose their belief onto others.
Roose_Bolton says:
I'd like to know exactly what goes on in his mind. Does he go home every night and just weep? He must. Somebody should talk to him before he ends up in a tall building with a big rifle.
Nicholas J Longtin says:
What a sad situation. This attitude is what directly contributes to young people taking their own lives. Young people are especially hurt when they don't feel accepted.
I recently interviewed some high school kids for a short film being submitted to the White House Champions of Change video challenge. These kids are extremely lucky to be in a school environment that supports them even if they don't get support at home.
Watch the video to learn more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyoeLuKjUdM
Baby Cachet says:
Sicking and he calls himself a person of God.
rattypilgrim says:
Jesus said (sic), "Suffer the children unto me…whoever harms a hair on their head would be better off with a millstone tied around his neck and cast into the sea…for such (children) is made the kingdom of heaven". The preacher forgot that part.
IronEdithKidd says:
There's a raft full of stuff Pastor Harris has forgotten about the teachings of Jesus. Such as; *all* of it.
Guest says:
Why give people like this coverage on BB? Until you do, the only ones listening to this crap are his little "flock" who agree wholeheartedly.
Sure, he's going to get plenty of hate mail from teh Internets now, but do you really think he cares?
Roose_Bolton says:
A disease left unexamined and untreated will rarely heal itself.
SomeGuyNamedMark says:
Unless you are talking to him or his flock I doubt this will affect him. Yelling insults at people like him just harden their conviction that it is "us vs them".
Roose_Bolton says:
Yes, but the question wasn't "why waste time insulting the guy in the BB comment thread", it was "why give people like this coverage on BB".
Step One: Exposure.
SomeGuyNamedMark says:
I can support that. Like turning on the light on cockroaches. They prefer the shadows.
Guest says:
Yes, and it slowly kills the infected. This is a pathogen festering in a NC swamp. Once you dredge it up it might start to spread.
I know, the video is really on YouTube and BB's readership is only going to mock this guy… but hits to this page mean hits on the vid… next thing you know it is ranked popular and front page… and you know there are probably just as many positive comments as negative ones on the 'Tube.
Best we could possibly do is get YT to remove it as hate speech.
chgoliz says:
Do you know every BB reader?
You have no way of knowing how this information might get passed on. Perhaps to a relative, or a business colleague. Maybe someone here is a public official, or influential in their religious community. Maybe 50 different BB readers will send a letter to their senator or representative about it.
The operative word is "coverage". You can't fight what you don't see. We are being educated about something we didn't know when we woke up this morning. Who knows how far the story will be disseminated as a result of this one little thread?
Guest says:
"Why give people like this coverage on BB?"
For the same reason you didn't blog about it on your blog.
SomeGuyNamedMark says:
There you go, all that gay stuff has been straightened out. Thanks Pastor Sean!
Next week he lectures on how to cure mental illness by restraining patients in cages and dumping ice water on them.
dm10003 says:
This is old but still powerfully ugly news in my circles.
Hey, does anyone think that "crack his wrists" is his Freudian slip (in the crack up to the wrist) that he thinks about doing with a boy? XD
TimRowledge says:
I don't think "suffer the little children" is likely to have been meant to be taken that way. Then again, considering the staggering amount of vileness in the horribly misnamed 'good book', perhaps it was.
Anon_Mahna says:
He's the type of goram git that would believe that beating the child IS helping them..
Hiro David says:
Ya know… I usually don't comment on religious items. I am a professing Christian, and a total geek. I love me some boingboing. Sadly I fear that a lot of times in geek culture, faith gets dismissed out of hand or ridiculed to no-end (ie zombie-jesus, sky fairy kind of crap) which really irks me, but hey, we're all entitled to opinions, right? I still love geek culture :)
With that being said…
This is the most asinine trash I have ever heard. Any man that calls himself "pastor" or "Man of God" and spews this kind of hatred ought to be absolutely ashamed!! Jesus is about love. There is absolutely nothing loving in this filth. I am embarrassed to be considered part of the same demographic as this jerk. (I know, not very loving of me… I'm a sinner too).
It really gets under my skin that all believers are lumped in with this guy in the eyes of the majority of society. It saddens me. We're not all like this guy. Some of us believe in Jesus.
Nathan Hornby says:
I appreciate your sentiment, but this is hardly a unique example of the evils of organised religion.
Few people have any issue with faith as a concept, or even others beliefs of a higher power; it's the cult like aspect of man made faiths with a long history of control, corruption and destruction that turns critical thinking folks off of religion.
GrrrlRomeo says:
If you don't want to be lumped in with Christians like this, then you should actively oppose those Christians. You're not the victim in this scenario. The victims are vulnerable children. If you're a Christian, then I would think your first priority would be to protect children from terrible people advocating child abuse rather than be worrying about your reputation or Christian cred.
He who exalts himself shall be humbled and he who humbles himself shall be exalted.
♡ Malcolm Jackson says:
Ugliest thing I've seen in years, and from a pastor??!! Words fail me.
thecleaninglady says:
I've always wondered, do Christians not notice the discrepancy between the core of Christ's teaching — love & acceptance, and the hatred coming out of Christian preachers. How did "Practice Love" become "Be hateful, gang on others and generate as much carnage as possible to whoever I tell you to."
Could it have to do with the Church redefining the meaning of "love" to match "hatred and punishment?"
Thank god I am not religious :)
bergamasque says:
And all throughout, the audience is clapping and laughing like they're in a stand-up comedy club. Chilling!
bigboing says:
I wish my mom and dad had cracked my wrists and punched me–I could have grown up to be a pastor.
Tom Leo says:
Is that Mr. Garrison?
snagglepuss says:
Too bad there isn't anything in the bible about beating the shit out of punk-ass preachers who recommend the violent abuse of children as a way of themselves avoiding dealing with their own issues.
Oh, wait – I have a solution. Please, somebody out there – Selectively interpret some random bibble passage to justify doing exactly that, so it'll all be "godly" and morally correct. Then take a baseball bat to that fucker, specifically the groin area and the jaw, and take a good long time explaining to him that pounding him into mush is just one of the many mysterious ways that the lord does his holy works. He'll understand then.
Michael Johnston says:
Protest this jerk Sunday at his tax exempt church Sunday 9-12
Palomino says:
Now all we need is a picture of him and Romney together and then the Dem's will have this entire Junior High Schoolish presidential election in the bag.
Timothy Moorehead says:
To this guy, as to so many, the world is OUT OF SORTS, and in time, with "biblical backup," this guy has a real sh*tty idea. This is pretty small, yes? Then We, the horrified community (bb&tc), will need to find, share, and distribute something BIGGER that not only circumvents this kind of filthy ethics…we will valorize the real instances of getting a grip on being homo sapiens on this globular realm. That's it. Remember that this is instance is localized–then broadcast. Deal with that. Love and kisses!
anharmyenone says:
"inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me"
fredesmite says:
I don't know Mormons were as horrible as Southern Baptists !
curiousrobot says:
Christ, what an asshole.
Britt L. says:
Laurent Dubois says:
I totally agree with this brave man! And I would add that we should kill the kids if they answer back and start listening to Justin Bieder. Now let me prepare my whip so I can beat my 2 year old because she refused to tell the grace for our 5 am breakfast and instead pretended to be asleep…
We should be able to legally beat the hell out of this asshole and make him taste the flavor of a multiple fracture of the wrist, see if it would get limpy.


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The product is geared to developers who aren't technical. Parse walks a person through the steps of building an app, storing all the data on Facebook servers. Once the app is up and running, Parse shows the developer a page prompting them to advertise on Facebook to boost downloads.
"It's so much easier if you're built on Parse to integrate these other services," Sukhar said. His team has doubled to about 50 people since Parse was acquired and the executive said he has regular meetings with Zuckerberg, who has vetted products and recruited developers to the tool. Customers include eBay and Samsung Electronics, he added.
The more that developers incorporate Facebook data, the more essential the social network becomes in mobile advertising, said Bob Buch, CEO of San Francisco-based SocialWire Inc., which helps build Facebook ads. That's because consumers use their Facebook identity for activities across all their devices, making the social network one of the few connectors in mobile, he said.
Facebook has said it is testing a mobile-ad network, which could eventually also help developers profit from their apps, Buch added.
"They're reviving F8 after all this time and a main thing they're going to be offering is a way to actually make money," Buch said.
Some software makers won't be won over easily, said Slaven Radic, CEO of Vancouver-based Tapstream Network, which works with mobile developers. He said he's seen some developers, including makers of the anonymous-sharing app Secret, choose to build social ties into their products using consumers' contacts list from their smartphones instead of a list of Facebook friends.
In the mobile world, developers are also still more focused on appealing to Apple and Google, which are the prime distributors of apps through their online stores, Huuuge's Gauffin said.
"With all the competition now, I don't know if they can get back to the glory days," he said.
Yet using Facebook and its tools is paying off for Itai Tsiddon, co-founder of app maker Lightricks Ltd. The company started building with Parse last year after trying Facebook's ads. Tsiddon's team, initially made up of himself and four PhDs with $500 in marketing dollars between them, relied on the ads to boost downloads of Facetune, a selfie-editing app.
Facetune, which costs $2.99 in the U.S., has been the top paid app on Apple's store in 94 countries, bringing in millions of dollars in revenue last year, he said.
Now Facetune uses Parse to send video tutorials to users on their mobile phones, showing how to edit their selfies so they will come back for more.
"Every time we send a notification like that, we definitely see really big double-digit spikes" in usage, Tsiddon said.
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Pros – Company has had over 135 quarters of straight profits. Stable-does not look to merge with larger banks.
Cons – Certain employees with many years and experience are not promoted to Officers of the bank (extra perks such as bonuses) when other people with purely generous managers are promote (title/pay) with a yr or 2 tenure. Luck of the draw!
Advice to Senior Management – Make sure HR works to ensure each person has a career path. Not everyone does. For someone who likes the culture of the bank, they may leave because of immobility.
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A quarterback under duress scrambles wildly and unleashed a desperation heave on his team's final play. Two opposing players go up for the ball and latch on to the pass at their highest point before tumbling to the ground. The officials blow the call. One team is lucky to walk out of the high-profile game a winner, while the loser feels it was robbed.
If you stayed up to watch the ending of last night's Monday Night Football game between the Green Bay Packers and Seattle Seahawks, that's the scene that played out live on national television.
But if you're a fan of Southwest Florida high school football, you might have seen the exact same controversial ending to a game at Naples High School four years ago.
During the 2008 playoffs, Dunbar was the underdog in a Class 3A regional semifinal against defending state champion Naples High. Yet with 14 seconds left, the Tigers had a shot to win, and probably should have.
Unlike Monday's NFL game, in which the play appeared to be called a touchdown incorrectly, the last-second pass against Naples seemed to be a touchdown but was called incomplete.
Naples won 17-14 and went on to lose in the regional championship the next week at Miami-Monsignor Pace.
Here's what the Daily News' talented sports reporter at the time wrote about the play in a follow-up story to the controversial ending:
"With the Tigers trailing 17-14 with 18 seconds to play, Javian Battle and Naples defensive back Mark Pearson seemed to simultaneously catch Dunbar quarterback Miguel Rodriguez's pass in the back of the end zone. The two then tumbled out of bounds while sharing possession, and the officials -- the crew was from Broward County -- ruled the pass incomplete after a brief conference."
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Arnold police are seeking charges against a man who threatened employees at an Arnold dialysis center where he was receiving treatment.
Officers responded to a 911 call from an employee at DaVita Dialysis Center at 102 Richardson Crossing on Nov. 7 about a man with a gun at the facility.
After officers arrived, they determined the man did not like the ethnicity of the personnel and made threats toward the employees. He did not have a gun.
While officers were investigating the incident, the man placed four 911 calls to complain and began to rant in a bizarre manner, said Maj. Nick McBroom of the Arnold Police Department.
"I think there was some kind of language barrier with the man when police were trying to talk to him and probably some mental health issues," McBroom said.
The 42-year-old St. Louis man was taken into custody and transported to Jefferson Memorial Hospital for a 96-hour hold.
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DEMION CLINCO IS NEWEST MEMBER OF ARIZONA HOUSE - The Pima County Supervisors today appointed Tucson Historic Preservation Foundation President Demion Clinco to replace Andrea Dalessandro in the Arizona House. Clinco and Dalessandro are both Democrats. The 3-2 vote to appoint Clinco fills the Legislative District 2 House seat vacated by Dalessandro, who was appointed by the board to replace Linda Lopez in the Arizona Senate. Lopez resigned last month, saying she needed to focus on her new job as director of Children and Family Services for the Easter Seals Blake Foundation. Read more from Arizona Public Media.
FOURTH STREETCAR ARRIVES IN TUCSON - The City of Tucson this morning received its fourth streetcar, leaving four more to complete the fleet. The fourth car will undergo static testing at the Sun Link Operations and Maintenance Facility before testing on the street. Streetcar fare service is expected to begin this summer. The Downtown Tucson Partnership reports the $200 million American-made streetcar project already has helped generate $800 million in public and private investment along the route, through downtown and the University of Arizona. Read more from KVOA and Sun Link Streetcar.
PRIMAVERA WORKS HIRING HOMELESS FOR TRASH PICKUP DOWNTOWN - Some of Tucson's homeless are being offered temporary jobs to pick up trash during the two weeks of the Tucson Gem, Mineral and Fossil Showcase. Primavera Works is offering $8 an hour for up to 12 workers each day from local shelters to pick up trash in the downtown area. Read more from KOLD/KMSB.
BIKE CHURCH SANCTUARY GETS ENHANCEMENTS - New additions to the Bike Church have turned it into a sanctuary with brick pavers. Jean and Jim Gorman, whose son, Brad Gorman, was killed by a motorist while he was riding a bike in 1999, helped fund the enhancements. Tucson 12 was at the recent re-dedication of the Bike Church and produced this video.
ADOPT A SAGUARO PROGRAM FUNDS CONSERVATION - The group Friends of Catalina State Park started the Adopt a Saguaro program about a week ago, using the donated funds for park improvements, such as adding a new ramada in the group area and installing roofs on shelters in the horse corrals. As part of the program, people may choose to "adopt" a saguaro at a variety of levels - ranging from a basic one-year adoption for $25, to a 25-year adoption of an old or unusual "granddaddy saguaro" for $3,000. Read more from the Arizona Daily Star.


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Paul Clarke, 31, of Barwood Court, Rotary Way, Banbury, admitted stealing cleaning products, paint and filler worth £139.73 from Halfords in Marley Way, Banbury, on August 9. Given a 12-month conditional discharge and told to pay a £15 victims' surcharge and £40 costs.
Adam Coles, 32, of Edmunds Road, Banbury, admitted causing £100 worth of damage to a kitchen door in Banbury on August 13. Also admitted committing a further offence while subject to a suspended sentence made on July 17 for common assault and possessing an air weapon. Given a four-week prison sentence.
Ashley Day, 28, of Miller Road, Banbury, admitted breaching a restraining order imposed on May 1 by harassment between July 30 and August 11 in Thornbury Rise, Banbury. Given a three-month prison sentence, suspended for 12 months, and told to pay an £80 victims' surcharge and £85 costs.
Oliver Stevens, 30, of St Kenelm's Close, Minster Lovell, near Witney, admitted causing criminal damage to a plate in St Kenelm's Close, Minster Lovell, Witney, on August 9. Given a 12-month conditional discharge and told to pay a £15 victims' surcharge and £40 costs.
Sean Williams, 32, of McKeevor Place, Banbury, admitted assault by beating in Banbury on August 10. Fined £350 and told to pay a £35 victims' surcharge and £85 costs.
Carl Webster, 19, of Croxford Gardens, Kidlington, admitted using threatening, or insulting words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour within the sight or hearing of a person likely to be caused alarm or distress in Langdale Court, Witney, on July 26. Fined £165 and told to pay a £20 victims' surcharge and £85 costs.
Manoj Abraham, 35, of Warwick Road, Banbury, admitted dumping controlled waste near the A4260 in Shennington Village on May 2. Fined £200 and told to pay a £20 victims' surcharge and £502.06 costs.
Peter Kiriamburi, 47, of Mallard Close, Oxford, admitted speeding on a 30mph road on the A4074 in Nuneham Courtenay on December 7. Fined £133 and told to pay a £20 victims' surcharge and £80 costs. Given three points on driving licence.


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The council did impose a number of conditions. For example, the company can't bring in more than 280 trucks daily, can't exceed noise limits and can't chemically process the sand there.
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Yes they are beautiful, so beautiful I fall soft and think I will leave them just a little longer to enjoy the flowers
Then before I know it, they have taken over and colonised the rose bed and the herb garden...........
My advise is to dig them up as soon as they arrive in spring and keep up with it if you can! Wish I could listen to my own advise
i have been digging it up for the last 12 months ! I swear it leaps from the lawn on a parachute during the dark hours!!
Not only does it spread by runners, but also by seeds which stay viable in the ground for many many years and germinate every time the soil is turned, so leaving it for those fleetingly pretty yellow flowers is not a particularly good idea! The damn stuff also keeps growing all winter and is a nightmare on my clay soil; Clearing it from the veg plots is a constant battle. Not a fan.
Clearing it from anywhere is a constnat battle here. Ghastly stuff.
Hi , why not use a systemic weed killer , half fill a jam jar with weed killer and washing up liquid and put leading stem of the plant into the solution and cover the jar so as none off your pets can get at it hopefully this will solve your problem ,it worked for in getting of bindweed
Hate the stuff, I try and deal with it as soon as I see it but there is always more.
I still hate creeping buttercup. With the warmer weather and the rain, I'm seeing loads of it emerge once again. I do try digging it out but it has really tough root system so I do resort to painting weedkiller on it.
If it looks like this, I would try and get rid of it as soon as possible
Sandra, the plant you describe is Celandine. The problem with that one are the tiny bulbous tubers which are easily spread by any kind of planting or digging near a clump. RHS advice here:
Just checked in to see the response to my predicament. Thanks to all who posted. Looks like I am not alone. I don't dislike the celendine, just the fact that it swamps other flowers that are trying to be seen, and as such is so very invasive. Thanks Bob the Gardener for the link. Good luck to all of you
I have it in one of the borders that I inherited rather than prepared and planted myself. It drives me mad - I'm no fan. I have Celandine in my churchyard and I leave it too flower there as it looks lovely. But if it dares to enter my garden war is declared.


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We will have parts suitable for all ages, even the very young. We can incorporate a non-speaking part for your child if s/he would prefer not to talk.
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My experiences of SH only started when I was in my late 30s – my life took a dive and out of nowhere SH appeared. It's never been a welcome visitor as such, but at times a necessary one. I know any self harmers reading this will understand that I cannot fully explain its usefulness, but at the same time, my desire for it to leave my life forever.
It sounds as if it has a life of its own and is not under my control and I do feel like that about SH. I don't feel that it's me that decides if I need its presence or if it just happens. All sounding very naïve, but truly I feel in a numbed state when SH pays a call. It's a demon that lives on my shoulder and frequently has a chat to me into my ear – it's difficult to keep it quiet and perhaps that's why it's so strong – I can't shove it off my shoulder. There was a time when it had taken up permanent residence on my shoulder and had a tangle with my arms on a daily basis; now it's less frequent visits are equally unpleasant, but fill a need.
I've tried long and hard to work out why I self harm and the only explanation I can come up with is this. The need it fills is the emotional frustration and pain going on inside my head. SH and its pain momentarily quiets those torments and gives me a break from the pain I cannot address. However, that pain addressed leads to other tangible issues arising in my day to day life. The side effects of SH behaviour.
There are hugely difficult side effects to deal with as a mother of two adult children and a resident husband. There are always questions, difficulty in understanding and hatred of what I am seen to be doing to myself. I often feel I've physically hurt my nearest and dearest when all I'm trying to do is survive.
It's bad enough trying to understand it myself but trying to explain it to someone – no matter how close they are to me – is impossible. The actual marks SH leaves behind are there for all to see. People can show offence – curiosity would be ok – but offence, sorry no. This did not happen to them it happened to me and I have to live with it, they do not. I get stressed trying to hide the marks from everyone, especially family, to save them feeling hurt but in the end they find out and yet another confrontation. I want left alone with it – it's my hurt and my battle to carry with me. Sounds selfish but it's the only way I can hope to get some control of my life. Am I an embarrassment?
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Next week will mark Theodor Geisel's 107th birthday. Geisel's pen name was Dr. Seuss, author of many children's books. He wrote 60 to be exact, among them Green Eggs and Ham, The Sneetches and other Stories, and Fox in Socks.
Geisel was born in Springfield, Massachusetts to German immigrants. He studied at Dartmouth and was caught violating the prohibition laws by drinking gin with friends. He was kicked off the college paper by the Dean. Yet he wanted to keep writing for the paper, so he started using the pen name Seuss.
Encouraged to keep writing he began submitting articles and illustrations to Life, Vanity Fair and The Saturday Evening Post. During the Great Depression he supported himself and his wife by drawing and writing ad campaigns for General Electric, NBC and Standard Oil.
It was during an ocean voyage that he was struck by the rhythm of the boat's engines and inspired to write the poem And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street. The poem was rejected 30 times before being published.
After World War II he went back to writing children's books after a hiatus to work on government propaganda. He churned out If I Ran the Zoo, Horton Hears a Who, McElligot's Pool and How the Grinch Stole Christmas among others.
It was discovered sometime in the 1950's that children were not learning to read. Most thought the offerings were boring. The head of Houghton Mifflin listed 348 words he felt all children should know, and enlisted the help of Dr. Seuss. He asked Seuss to write a book using only 250 of the words on the list. Seuss, using only 236 of the words, wrote The Cat in The Hat. It became one of the first beginning reader books that children flocked to. Its vocabulary was simple, repetitive and children loved the story. The Cat in Hat is still a top selling children's book, selling 452,258 copies in 2009.
The National Education Association's (NEA) program Read Across America will kick off on March 2, 2011, Dr. Seuss' brithday. First Lady Michelle Obama will help launch the program along with the Secretary of Education, Arne Duncan by reading The Cat in Hat to Washington D.C area school children at the Library of Congress. The progarm is designed to encourage children and families to read together.
Dr. Seuss died on September 24th 1991 of throat cancer. Some young friends of mine asked that day, if Dr. Seuss dies do his books die with him? Thankfully his great works will live on.
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On Thursday morning I was invited to the office of Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY), chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and vice chairman of the Senate Democratic Caucus, to speak with him on a range of issues. The following is the rush transcript of my interview, which is available in streaming form and downloadable .mp3 from Odeo (though I have not been able to clear the technical hurdle of embedding their player on MyDD yet, which I hope to do soon).
This is the first of four interviews from my trip to DC for the DNC's winter meetings last week that I will post on consecutive mornings this week, with the series continuing tomorrow with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV). Now, the interview:
Chuck Schumer: So, it's nice to meet you. I read your stuff. I enjoy it.
Jonathan Singer: It's a real pleasure also.
Schumer: We don't have too much time because they called a vote.
Singer: No problem. The map looks good -
Schumer: Let me just start out, one thing, to let the blogosphere know. I think what the blogosphere did in 2006 was incredibly great, particularly with Webb and Tester. We intend to work really closely with the blogosphere in this cycle. In fact next month we're going to have our first online chat where we ask people for suggestions. And here's what's so important: The map is an interesting map. In a sense it's good; we have 12 Democrats and 21 Republicans and we're feeling good about the 12 Democrats who are incumbents. But the 21 Republicans by and large come from very tough states. You have very few deeply blue states. Last time we had Pennsylvania, which was a pretty blue state, and Rhode Island, which was a very blue state. We don't have many of those this time. New Hampshire is slightly blue, Maine is a little more blue, Oregon is slightly blue, Minnesota is slightly blue. But none of them you'd call more than 52 percent Democratic states.
So we've got to find candidates all over. And this is where the blogosphere excels. There may be somebody, a state Rep. or even not, in Alabama who might be a very good candidate. So we intend to have a good, close relationship and work together the way we did, sort of, towards the end last time. The sort of M.O. last time was the netroots community found the candidates, more or less, then we helped them later on in the race, Webb, Tester would be the two classics. But I think it's going to be more close - I know it's going to be more close this year.


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Fall is upon us, and that means hayrides, pumpkin painting, costume contest and trick-or-treating. Here's the list of family-friendly events for the Fall/Halloween 2013 season in Charlotte. This list will constantly be updated, so check back often to see new events.
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Information is still coming in about most of these events, so expect this list to grow by plenty a little closer to fall.
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Palisades Halloween Festival
Palisades Equestrian Center
19104 Youngblood Rd W
Charlotte, NC 28278
Saturday, Oct. 12, 2013
2 to 5 p.m.
This event features a fun and family-friendly haunted house, local food trucks, a pick-your-own-pumpkin pumpkin patch with pumpkin decorating, and even the opportunity to take professional photos with a favorite princess or superhero!
Retro Horror at Ayrsley Grand Cinema
7 and 10 p.m.
Tickets are $5
Oct. 4 to Oct. 10: The Shining
Oct. 11 to Oct. 17: Nightmare on Elm Street
Oct. 18 to Oct. 24: The Exorcist
Oct. 25 to Oct. 31: Halloween
Blakeney Boo Bash
Blakeney Shopping Center
Saturday, Oct. 19, 2013
9 a.m. to p.m.
Huntersville Halloween Festival
October 26, 2013
Spinning Spiders and Creepy Crawlers
Charlotte Nature Museum
1658 Sterling Road
Saturday, Oct. 26
10 a.m.
A hauntingly good time that is a little spooky, but not-too-scary. Enjoy Halloween treats and learn about all of our little friends that scurry underfoot. Kids are encouraged to wear costumes.
Daniel Stowe Botanical Garden, Belmont
Saturday, October 27, 2013
9 a.m. to 3 p.m.
Bootanical returns for its fourth year with an outdoor botanical marketplace featuring artists whose work uses, or features, plants, gardens, nature and the environment to inspire their creations - making it the perfect place to unique holiday shopping. Guests will find display-quality pottery, exquisite baskets, gourd art, herbal soaps and lotions, candles, handcrafted jewelry, and other decorative art during this spectacular botanical marketplace. In addition, during Bootanical, the Garden will celebrate Halloween in the daylight with nothing scary to worry the little ones who want to enjoy the friendlier side of this holiday. Favorite fall icons like pumpkins, gourds, maize, mums and other plants-based elements serve as the inspiration for activities during Bootanical. Its a fun event for the entire family!
Kidgits Boo Bash Event
Saturday, Oct. 26, 2013