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The most persistent question I've been getting about BlackBerry Jam Asia has been "How's the mood?" There's certainly a cloud of non-developer news looming over this developer conference, but surprisingly few people are getting wet from the rain, though they certainly aren't oblivious to the weather.
Marty Mallick heads up alliances with major developers to get them on BlackBerry 10, which at first blush seems like it might be a tough job when many developers have no idea if the platform is still going to be around after the next two or three years (nevermind months).
A big key to Mallick's approach to developers in light of recent events has been to proactively engage with existing customers and let them know exactly what the latest news has to do with their apps and what it means for the future of the partners. They have ultimately been very proactive when it comes to shareholders. This also acts as an opportunity for them to reaffirm their commitment to developers. On partner sentiment from the show, Mallick had this to say.
"Some are extremely supportive. It really is business as usual. The team continues to stay focused on managing these partners, supporting the partners, motivating the partners. ... This fall is full of amazing apps that are coming to the platform. There's literally hundreds more coming in the next 90 days. ... Our communication with the partner is not trying to mislead them. It's very factual. 'This is where we are, this is our focus, this is what that means.' "
BlackBerry's Alec Saunders sounded off candidly about the status of Instagram elsewhere at the show, saying that if users wanted to share photos on BlackBerry 10, they'd have to check out one of the many alternatives available. We needled Mallick about Instagram, and he had a pretty comprehensive answer to the situation.
"Instagram is obviously a partnership that we're really anxious and really excited to work with. To date they have not announced support for BlackBerry 10, but discussions do continue with them. ... One of the things that Instagram has pointed out to me in the past is they didn't support Android until Android had been in the market for over 18 months and was in the hundreds of million users range. The message to us was 'Don't feel so bad, because we don't jump on new platforms on day one. We take our time. We've very diligent in the experience.' The fact that they're not here now, six months in, really doesn't mean they won't be here in the future. ... We don't like it, but we have to respect it."
Next up, we touched on Marty's experiences with the locals in particular.
"The (Asian) goliaths, we have them supporting BlackBerry 10. We have a very strong presence of BlackBerry in the region. A lot of these application partners, they have millions of users already on BlackBerry OS, so they're just naturally inclined to support their users. Sometimes, we'll look at it as 'are you supporting BlackBerry?', but a lot of these partners are even more pragmatic about it. 'If I have 13+ million users on BlackBerry, I'm going to support BlackBerry 10.'"
Hunting the big fish in a climate like this is a tough-sounding job for Marty, but his answers seem to set the stage well for the months ahead.
irishdoc Sep 30, 2013 at 1:52 pm
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sk8er_tor Sep 30, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Simon, next time, please ask him when we can expect a fully featured Facebook app. I read through the reviews on BB World and it's all disappointing. People complaining they can't share posts, they can't sort the news feed, notifications are disappearing, etc. Why the hell is this app not fully featured yet? They've had since before launch and it's still not on par as other platforms.
uzmarvel Sep 30, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Check beta app, sharing is now added.
ianbordas Sep 30, 2013 at 2:54 pm
Not on BB10...
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Chonsk Sep 30, 2013 at 3:54 pm
yes it is
Lol I love complainers that have no idea what they are talking about :P
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BBPandy Sep 30, 2013 at 4:29 pm
Happens all the time. Sometimes it's an honest mistake, other times I suspect it's something else....
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sk8er_tor Oct 1, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Are you saying that there's a Facebook for BlackBerry 10 beta app in the beta zone? I don't see it but I do see the one for legacy OS.
jsimon208 Sep 30, 2013 at 5:19 pm
I am browsing beta-zone right now and I see Facebook for BBOS and nothing is listed for BB10.
nyallj Sep 30, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Deedo that.
nyallj Sep 30, 2013 at 7:44 pm
LOL...you should come spend some time in the forums...
araskin Sep 30, 2013 at 8:18 pm
My profile is set to Z10 but I cant see the program so I can join. I see the FB for BBOS but not for BB10. Any ideas?
curvezzz Sep 30, 2013 at 9:18 pm
I don't see bb10 beta app for fb, only bbos.
musical1806 Oct 1, 2013 at 1:35 am
And for the MILLIONS of user the don't access the beta zone???
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paper_monkey Oct 1, 2013 at 9:00 am
They will have a nice new app once it's out of Beta testing thanks to the users who _do_ access the beta zone.
I'm not a beta test kind of person (don't have the patience for it) but letss all take this opportunity to thakn the Leaks team and the beta testers for helping developers get their apps to market.
kraidx Sep 30, 2013 at 3:24 pm
Agree the Facebook app needs updating. It's better than it used to be but still lacks features.
I have a problem with notifications, if the app is not active frame I don't get notified of events. Sometimes even if it is an active frame.
Wonder if well get headless apps anytime soon.
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wincyUt Sep 30, 2013 at 4:33 pm
I get tons of notifications whether my active frame is on or not. Check your settings.
kraidx Sep 30, 2013 at 6:01 pm
Done that
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edriss Sep 30, 2013 at 9:46 pm
I have my own complaints on fb app, but sharing and sorting is not one of them, rather it is still not as good as the OS7 app.
That's all
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JBML007 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:26 pm
Well what? Marty is a total fail.....this guy dropped the ball....WE ALL KNOW IT. This guy should have never been in charge of apps. Netflix not there, Vine not there, Instagram not there........Spotify, millions of vank apps, GTA, Simpsons.....Temple Run, Shazaam.....etc etc etc.
MARTY you have failed the BlackBerry faithful, and made us all look like asses for having faith.
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feldmen01 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:39 pm
I can't say for certain if it was Marty, or Blackberry's reluctance to throw cash at the big name players.
KermEd Sep 30, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Cash didn't help. Extra developers didn't help.
It's not a lack of trying, it's trying to get developers to be less scared of taking risks - which isn't always an easy thing when time is money.
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musical1806 Oct 1, 2013 at 1:37 am
If time is money they pay them the money.
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digtech Sep 30, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Relax dude. The platform is still young. While we all want the apps to come, let's be realistic. BlackBerry 10 has not been on the market for 1 year yet and it has been gaining traction with quite a few big name developers. Let's be patient, Rome wasn't built in a day... and as was stated... with over 100million users, Android didn't get Instagram till after 18months. Chill out. Sideload the apps you need and be happy. At least we on BB10 have the option of sideloading... those on Windows phone are left in the cold and dark.
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RP Singh Sep 30, 2013 at 2:40 pm
For real!
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sk8er_tor Sep 30, 2013 at 3:04 pm
True but BlackBerry is not completely new to the smartphone scene. They had about 80 million users back then, lots of cash to throw at devs, plus two years to get these apps on the platform and have them ready for launch. While they do have some decent apps, there are a lot of heavily used apps missing from the platform and we're now at a time when apps matter to people.
HigherThanMars Sep 30, 2013 at 7:00 pm
BBOS and bb10 are not the same platform. You can't just download things that were for old bb. And why would a company make an app for a platform that isn't even out yet? Just because they had 2 years doesn't mean anything, if they had been out for 2 years then that's a different story. Also they've already thrown plenty of money at them, that's clearly not helping. Just be patient and keep bothering the developers. They are the ones that make the app. Not BlackBerry.
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HigherThanMars Sep 30, 2013 at 7:01 pm
I do agree that Facebook should be fully featured by now. There's hardly been any updates and that's blackberrys app.
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New_Z10 Sep 30, 2013 at 3:35 pm
But of course you realize that the direction is to leave the consumer market- meaning that we will never see the big name apps. The Window of opportunity has been bricked over. Hello brick wall.
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Tumacana Sep 30, 2013 at 4:53 pm
Ummm..correct me if i'm wrong but I am pretty sure Android was around longer than a year and a half (18 months) when Instagram made its debut on IOS. I remember having a G1 like 6-7 years ago.
but will BB10 still be on the market in 18months?
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BlueHeel Sep 30, 2013 at 3:18 pm
That's a ridiculously harsh final statement. Whoever feels that they look like asses for owning a BlackBerry and not having those apps you mentioned, seriously need to rethink their life priorities. The statement is also ignorantly false/assuming. Exactly who are you talking about when you say, "made us "all" look like asses?" I don't look like an ass to anybody for owning a BlackBerry. I'm a BlackBerry faithful. I'm sure there are others that feel the same way. Get a grip. It's just a phone. If you don't want to "look like an ass," don't go around mouthing off about a platform that is just in its infancy. Just enjoy the fact that you have an awesome phone. If they had waited for entities like Instagram or whoever else to agree to come onto the platform, some of you would be whining about BB10 taking forever to be released. Never ending complaining. I don't know if you are or not, but you sound like a spoiled, entitled brat with your angry impatience and image issues (i.e.: "I look like an ass because I don't have Instagram on my phone and I told all of my friends it would be on it!"; image=whiny voice/pout face while residing in the movie "Clueless.") Whatever happened to adults owning BlackBerries? Ric Flair would have never whined about something so trivial. We may have to confiscate your icon and replace it with Teddy Ruxpin. Wooooo! (Represent Space Mountain properly.) ;-)
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JBML007 Sep 30, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Thats not ric flair sir.
Its will ferral from east bound and down.
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fanchettes Sep 30, 2013 at 3:41 pm
Oh that's right, anyone who complains about Blackberry's string of broken promises is just a spoiled brat. Never mind the hundreds of dollars we've poured into devices because we were foolish enough to believe those promises. I for one am sick of being brushed off for daring to criticize Blackberry. They blew it with the BB10 launch, blew it with the Playbook, blew it with the non-launch of cross-platform BBM. All I'm wanting is for this company and its leaders to own up to their failures.
BlueHeel Sep 30, 2013 at 10:05 pm
If you are aware that you are wasting money by being foolish enough to believe something over and over, then you have no one to blame but yourself. There IS some merit to the old saying, "Fool me once..." I don't know if the first part of your post is a question, or statement in terms of agreement, but yes, "right."
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jazson Sep 30, 2013 at 10:07 pm
they will never own up because 3/4 of their followers are blind sheep!!.....baaaaaaaaaah
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dphjeff Sep 30, 2013 at 9:26 pm
I have been through OS's 5,6 and 7. I don't tweet, Face Book or Instagram and don't really give a rats ass about them. But how is a company that is trying to sale a device on the pretense of bing a leader in the social community and not having the big named apps is ridicules. There stuck with BlackBerries social community. Why would someone move to BlackBerry and not have the apps they use every day. Thats probably why there device sales suck. As for the mentality of what happened to adults and businesses using BlackBerry is killing the company. Do you think Apple and Android sold all of the devices to adults. McDonalds learned long ago market to the youth and they will have customers now and in the future. It sure isn't because they have good food that keeps them busy. I wish the Best for BlackBerry because I think they still have the best device on the market and with what they have to offer isn't going to cut it with most of the people out there. I have three other devices on my plan nd there not BlackBerries but the people using them will not switch because of the aforementioned Apps.
mokimoki Sep 30, 2013 at 3:41 pm
I'm with you on this one and what I can't understand ,if this is all about money why the HELL BlackBerry just pay them to make the DAMN apps
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BBPandy Sep 30, 2013 at 4:43 pm
They have paid some devs, but $ isn't everything. Some have refused to be on the platform regardless. In some cases BlackBerry has offered to send their own developers so it wouldn't cost them a thing to make the app & they still said no.
Now why would a someone refuse to allow an app to be made that wouldn't cost anything & would make them $? I don't know. Why is there no "Plants vs Zombies 2" on Android? It turns out because Apple paid a crap load of $ to make sure they didn't develop it. If they did it once, it's not unreasonable to assume they have other times.
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Xandrex_BSCF Sep 30, 2013 at 6:20 pm
Think of who is behind Instagram? Facebook.
And who are the BBM channels going to harm most? The Facebook Pages.
So there is no reason whatsoever for Facebook to help in any way BlackBerry with the Facebook app or the Instagram app. Quite the opposite actually.
Remember that Facebook Inc. only develops the "Facebook app" for iOS and Android. The Microsoft and BlackBerry versions are developed by Microsoft and by BlackBerry.
NatureboyDRG Sep 30, 2013 at 10:08 pm
+1000. This is exactly the point. This is 100% why there are no instagram or Netflix apps.
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Jtaylor1986 Sep 30, 2013 at 5:31 pm
You can't fire a guy for not walking on water for you lol
Well agreed with you. If BlackBerry can't get its BBM gracefully launched first time around, how can we expect a support from others? I have to resort to sideloading just to feed my big app addictions. It's sad.
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birdman_38 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Marty Mallick and Alec Saunders should have traded jobs. May have made for a different result.
JBML007 Sep 30, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Yeah thats a good point. Marty has totally let me down. Im still blackberry4life.... but this guy really couldn't have disappointed me more.
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Blah, blah, blah....love your posts you are obviously the next coming of Steve Jobs, you should change your pic.
oddboy Sep 30, 2013 at 1:53 pm
QuIcKsIlV3r !
(edit: damn. i didn't make it.)
unbreakablej Sep 30, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Lol, what is the 13 million referring to? Bb10 users?
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sk8er_tor Sep 30, 2013 at 2:22 pm
13 million BlackBerry users total in that geographical area.
imcurved Sep 30, 2013 at 2:57 pm
How many BB10 users out there right now? about 2 to 3 millions? 10 more to go.
wincyUt Sep 30, 2013 at 4:38 pm
He was referring to BBOS legacy users. :)
Jtaylor1986 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:22 pm
The userbase they need to make it profitable to develop an app for.
accuberryedwin Sep 30, 2013 at 1:57 pm
"There's literally hundreds more coming in the next 90 days." How should we take this since BBM was suppose to be released a couple days ago and now its being delayed. just saying
E-MAN89 Sep 30, 2013 at 7:06 pm
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Vincent Romani Sep 30, 2013 at 2:05 pm
99 of them will be made by S4BB
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iwasspartacus Sep 30, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Well, he said 'hundreds' so S4BB would probably be in the hundreds as well.
Hellz, they probably posted a hundred while I wrote this...
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pick1eberry Sep 30, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Native vs Android ports?
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wincyUt Sep 30, 2013 at 4:42 pm
And? Doesn't Candy Crush makers churn out apps too? Kudos S4BB!! You just never know, one day S4BB might hit the motherload or pay dirt just like King did with Candy Crush or Zynga was doing too.
Its all a game of numbers.
iwasspartacus Sep 30, 2013 at 11:00 pm
Chuckle. I love your optimism... they just need to find out the sweet spot for GPS pricing and they'll be on fire!!
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snihed Sep 30, 2013 at 2:05 pm
that's the same line of answer they told people when bb10 launched in feb. guess 80% of those upcoming apps will be junk. bunch of jokers.
Adventuro Sep 30, 2013 at 2:22 pm
I think they are doing their best, but that is not good enough for most people.
I myself am happy with my apps. There have been many that have arrived that are great, so I expect more good apps in the future. Good things come to those who wait.
Phantisy Sep 30, 2013 at 2:39 pm
"Losers always wine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."
Adventuro Sep 30, 2013 at 2:55 pm
I was thinking the exact same thing, but this ain't "The Rock"
snihed Sep 30, 2013 at 2:59 pm
but wine is good for you
danfrancisco Sep 30, 2013 at 2:56 pm
"The Z10 *was* the prom queen!"
Soeasy Sep 30, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Yeah, at the school with short yellow bus.
snihed Sep 30, 2013 at 2:59 pm
Can you tell this to shareholders who are also CB members who stuck with BB from $60++ to being taken private by $9/share??? Management led by TH royally screwed us all.
Adventuro Sep 30, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Truly this will hurt for shareholders. I sold my stock in january, so I made money on BB.
snihed Sep 30, 2013 at 3:00 pm
Guess good things come to those who sell then.
cbvinh Sep 30, 2013 at 3:59 pm
Your lack of faith has served you well...
mauro316 Sep 30, 2013 at 5:28 pm
But only the things left by those who hustle...
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wincyUt Sep 30, 2013 at 4:47 pm
The last time I checked the App Store, there are tons of junk apps there too. Can you tell me how many great apps the App Store has in its over 900K apps/games library? What's the ratio?
cbvinh Sep 30, 2013 at 4:00 pm
These apps aren't made by BlackBerry...
New_Z10 Sep 30, 2013 at 1:58 pm
Very little content. Proactive in talking? What about incenting. What about developing exceptional products for those in "partnerships". Not impressed st all.
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birdman_38 Sep 30, 2013 at 3:13 pm
"Talking" may mean leaving numerous messages on their voicemail. Or an exchange of emails.
Mallick: "Are you ready to take us seriously yet?"
Instagram: "A near billion dollar writedown on the Z10? Um, no."
Serkle K Sep 30, 2013 at 2:00 pm
73 million user base isn't enough to garner support from inception? hmph...
ankush77 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:05 pm
they mean to say the BB10 user base ,as they do not see the older versions to be here in near future,to some extend it is true.
jayemmbee Sep 30, 2013 at 2:01 pm
Where have I heard this before
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ankush77 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:02 pm
good inputs and thought process of app developers
ankush77 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:03 pm
in the end everything is a number game ,we have to be bigger to get the better???
textmint2013 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:19 pm
It's basic economics Ankush. The more the base the higher the spread.
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ankush77 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:36 pm
exactly you are right
SteelGreek Sep 30, 2013 at 2:51 pm
Naturally, but it's the same catch-22 as always. Big names don't develop for a small install base and users don't come to the platform without their apps...
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raxamillion Sep 30, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Seems as tho the app developers have the power to make or break an OS. And they clearly know it.
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tushargkwd Sep 30, 2013 at 2:05 pm
Yeah. BBM should be here. So that BlackBerry sends all the developers a good message that they are on track.
And Instagram seems to be right in their approach of jumping to a platform when they have millions of users.
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freddysrevng3 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:05 pm
Do you know how many times, over the years, that RIM/BlackBerry "Executives" have used terms like
"There's literally hundreds more coming in the next 90 days"
"Q10 will sell in the 10s of millions"
Getting the "picture".?
"Cross Platform BBM for Android and iPhone by end of summer"
"New Playbook Software"
So boring...
Welcome to "The New and Old BlackBerry".....
They can't even get a bid over $9..... just to show you what all of these broken promises have gotten you...
Hopefully, Frank Boulben will be protected from the latest 4,500 person layoff at BlackBerry...
bbfanboi Sep 30, 2013 at 2:33 pm
After knocking everything else "BlackBerry", you want Mr. Boulben protected from layoffs? Why?
Marketing has been their biggest weakness by far, and I blame the lack of marketing as the second biggest reason for the lack of penetration of BB10. In my opinion, the biggest reason for the lack of success in BB10 is... (wait for it!)... placing too much trust in the hands of the carriers to sell it! Again, that is in Mr. Boulben's hands! Not one BlackBerry ad shows how you actually use a BlackBerry 10 device!
birdman_38 Sep 30, 2013 at 3:08 pm
If you've followed freddy's posts, you'll know he was being sarcastic calling for protection of Boulben.
iwasspartacus Sep 30, 2013 at 3:13 pm
He was being sarcastic... pretty sure. Everyone even remotely aware of the BBRY story knows that Frank butchered the launch.
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freddysrevng3 Sep 30, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Apparently, I need to "market myself better"..... I think I will hire Frank Boulben when he becomes available..... Oh, you say he is going to retire after he receives his "$7 million+ Golden Shower Parachute Severance Package" when BBRY is sold to Fairfax?
Not only did he completely "F Up" the marketing program for BlackBerry - he allowed the media to sell the fact that if you don't have Instagram and a few other "Metrosexual Must Have Apps" - then your phone sucks...
Do business people who "Need to Get Stuff Done" need Instagram?
@ bbfanboi - not only do I not hope Frank Boulben is "retained" at BlackBerry - I hope the find a way to "F" him out of the, aforementioned, $7 million plus....
F1 JV Sep 30, 2013 at 10:20 pm
Q10 ad shown many, many times for many weeks in July & August on CNBC and Bloomberg was 30 seconds of BB10 operation. Showed how quickly one could process multiple tasks...and showed off the predictive words function very well.
Guess what? There's a learning curve with this OS and you have to use it to understand it and appreciate it.
This is definitely a case where word of mouth marketing should start to increase sales.
Here's the deal...is Kim K going to be using a BB10 phone this season of KUWTK? That will say a lot to me about BB10(sad but true).
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eshadiq Sep 30, 2013 at 2:05 pm
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koolrosh Sep 30, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Marty Mallick is a total fail! And he keeps giving us excuses for why these apps are not on the platform.
Netflix was on WP8 on day 1 and that is before WP8 had any users AND a very small WP7 user base to begin with. They even made an app for for the Vita which sold less than 3 million units.
By contrast Blackberry had 80 million users and this guy failed to convince Netflix that it was worthwhile to build an app for BB10. That is his only job. Reed Hastings was out saying that he thought Blackberry was more of a business device. It was Marty's job to change this guy's perception, but he failed!
bjorn_late Oct 1, 2013 at 1:18 am
Going to bet Netflix was on Windows Phone 7 because Netflix is built using Microsoft Silverlight. There is no version of Silverlight for QNX, hence the lack of Netflix.
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alan510 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:06 pm
Simon, so how was the turnout this year as compared to previous years? That would say more about developers' attitudes towards the platform.
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That is a harder question to answer that you think - if you registered ($149 I think) - you got a developer device - so from looking at reports from other papers, seems a lot of kids who are not developers were simply registering for devices:
"Curiously, a large number of people queuing up for their free Blackberry Dev Alpha device at the conference entrance told me they were not developers. That didn't seem to stop them from enjoying their new gadgets however - which came with a conference attached.
And attending the conference was cheap: the regular rate was a mere US$149, or US$99 if you had registered before 30 August."
"A Blackberry spokesperson reckoned around a thousand had registered, but didn't have a figure of how many actually showed up. Certainly, Blackberry Jam Asia 2013 seemed thin on developer presence. The showcase comprised two official Blackberry stands for gaming and enterprise apps, an app advertising sales vendor and official merchandise.
That was it though. No large third-party app developers had stalls, and the breakout technical sessions were sparsely attended."
alecaserez Sep 30, 2013 at 2:06 pm
Marty Mallick bad job. Missing many great players in bb10. Best apps = more users
snihed Sep 30, 2013 at 2:08 pm
marty was busy playing candy crush on his nexus. he has no idea how to sideload.
freddysrevng3 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Great to see Marty Mallick smiling - he should be cut in the new "4,500 Layoff Round".... BB7 has "millions of users".... where is Instagram on that operating system?
All bogus nonsense... these guys are not respected in the "Greater App Provider World" no matter how many "Journey Cover Songs" Alec destroys....
Jtaylor1986 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:24 pm
These are all business decisions. When the business case for being there exists we will see the app. The userbase is too small currently to justify the investment for most of these companies.
travaz Sep 30, 2013 at 2:34 pm
Why would you develop an App for a system that is being phased out (OS7)? Also just because you have 10 million on an certain OS does not mean 10 million are going to download a particular app. I don't care what Marty Mallick says if the folks at IG don't want to support an OS how is it BB's fault?
freddysrevng3 Sep 30, 2013 at 3:44 pm
@ travaz - it's "BB's fault" because they have become so insignificant... and if you were, always, more of a "Prosumer Conscious Company" - then why did you market on the SuperBowl with a guy on fire and have guys "sliding through mud" on your lame commercials????
FB is "the man"....
SirJes Sep 30, 2013 at 2:10 pm
Bring on IGrann! :D he's acting quicker than instagram
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mikegcox Sep 30, 2013 at 2:53 pm
An example of what is involved in making an app. A guy makes an instagram app. Why not spend a few dollars and hire a dedicated team of developers to fill the void? Would a Silverlight browser not take care of Netflix? These app shortcomings seem so easy to overcome. Why does the future of mobile computing rest in a bunch of low budget app developers? I would like to see built by BlackBerry, not just built for BlackBerry.
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LamarStarr Sep 30, 2013 at 2:11 pm
This definetly was not the easiest article to read. lol umm...
ricocan Sep 30, 2013 at 2:11 pm
So the point from any new phone players perspective is that some apps will make it or break it, today iG is one such app. It has grown immensely since jumping on Android, I would think then the decision model used then could have some new inputs to it, not that it needs to from iG perspective. They should be pressed on whether they can provide some kind of option for new OS and platforms, allowing them to build their own third party client until they hit a large enough user base might be good, no risk for iG and new guy in pays the development costs?
Kobe Barksdale Sep 30, 2013 at 2:13 pm
Simply put IG is not interested in BB10. Find alternatives, I'm sure Netflix and Spotify feel the same. I say F 'em all, I will sideload :p
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bbfanboi Sep 30, 2013 at 2:26 pm
I've been trying to determine where those 4,500 cuts would come from. I love everything BlackBerry has today except for the BlackBerry 7 platform - loved it then but it has to go away... only slowly! After all, they do have existing customers to support. What that means is no new BB7 devices!
As a result, I have a hard time trying to figure out where all those cuts would come from. I hate to speculate on this because I worry about the impact on jobs - these are people's lives! Good and talented people.
Data centers? Hardware? I surely hope not hardware! BlackBerry ranks as either the best or second best handset designer. Apple's devices are on par with BlackBerry, but BlackBerry's device reliability is as good as or better than Apple.
Remember that Apple had huge issues with their antennas two years ago with the iPhone 4. They've since had Wifi connectivity problems (even when next to the router), overheating problems, excessive battery drain problems (remember you can't simply pop-in a new charged battery), glaring in photos, flickering screens, power button problems, etc, etc. My point is, it will happen to everyone, so I want to point out that Apple is not immune to problems, despite what some may suggest.
Even today, in general, the iPhone doesn't have as good an antenna as BlackBerry. In fact, the Z30 is increasing that lead BlackBerry has in acquiring and keeping your network connection by introducing a new, proprietary super fast antenna tuning technology. This comes from BlackBerry's Paratek division. I just wish BlackBerry would sell this feature as well as the many other advances they bring to the industry.
BlackBerry World is fantastic and I find it on par with the competition, with its weakness being the smaller app store. However, media wise (music and video), it rocks with a ton of content!
snihed Sep 30, 2013 at 2:14 pm
joke time's not yet finish. these people.....
bbfanboi Sep 30, 2013 at 2:17 pm
The comment from Instagram is BS. If they want users on their platform, why wait 18 months to consider the platform? It's just plain stupid. Isn't the BlackBerry 10 platform solid enough and enabling? Sounds like they must be smoking the same bad weed as Netflix.
bjorn_late Sep 30, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Actually its the opposite. They don't care about adding BB users, they have more than enough of a user base in that 95% of the smartphone market that is on iOS/Android.
camera531 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:20 pm
Mallick is one of the worst "executives" at BlackBerry and his incompetence has definitely contributed to BB's downfall. He should be the first one cut in the next HUGE round of layoffs.
NotGoodIMO Sep 30, 2013 at 3:04 pm
They are all smug and stupid.
JBML007 Oct 1, 2013 at 12:38 am
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Rub3n5 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:21 pm
Mallick's comment, "This fall is full of amazing apps that are coming to the platform. There's literally hundreds more coming in the next 90 days." is very telling.
Hundreds of apps in the next 90 days? Let's say that's 900 - it's sill less than 4,000 Apps / year on average. If he is referring to premium apps, that's "okay" then, but I'm personally sick and tired of flipping through BlackBerry World over all the GPS apps.
They need quality and there is no indication they are going to get them.
wincyUt Sep 30, 2013 at 4:57 pm
Isn't the platform less than a year old? I'm confused with your calculation of 4000 apps per year. Doesn't BlackBerry World have over 100K apps/games in its library right now?
Rub3n5 Sep 30, 2013 at 6:58 pm
I believe they just announced over 130,000 BB10 apps. What I was getting at is Mallick is the primary guy when it comes to working with companies to ensure their apps come to BB10 - and his comment is making reference to "literally hundreds more coming in the next 90 days".
It's so irrelevant, so minute in the grand scheme of things when considering the sheer volume of apps on other platforms. If he had said, "10's of thousands in the next 90 days and 2,000 more premium apps", that would be something of substance, something that matters.
I don't know - I've supported BB forever and a day and I'd love to see them survive and thrive. But they aren't going to make any real headway without the premium apps people are looking for.
wincyUt Sep 30, 2013 at 7:39 pm
Thanks for the clarification. I totally agree with you. This whole BlackBerry saga is indeed very annoying.
Rub3n5 Sep 30, 2013 at 8:06 pm
Yeah, and it's annoying because we all care. We all want to see this company survive at this point.
scalemaster34 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:22 pm
Boy this was a wasted read!
LyBerry Sep 30, 2013 at 2:22 pm
Someone asked a good question. Where is Instagram for BB7 if the numbers are the requirement. They should have been on BB7 before the PlayBook even came out, if that's truly the whole story behind why they haven't produced an app yet. Supposedly BlackBerry has said they would send developers of their own I'd that's what it took to get the app on the platform so, there has to be something else wrong that we're not being told. Maybe even BlackBerry isn't being told the whole truth.
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Jtaylor1986 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:26 pm
BB7 is being phased out gradually why would you invest in an operating system that will only get smaller
Jerale Hoard Sep 30, 2013 at 10:59 pm
Well seeing how the 9720 is the last BBOS7 device and Instagram being an American app I don't see why they'll add it to BB7. BlackBerry needs to focus on getting the remaining BB7 users to jump ship over to BB10 before they jump ship to a different platform.
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dannyd86 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:24 pm
The whole " don't worry were currently engaged with them"
Wtf does that mean. Congratulations you sent an email and asked are we there yet...
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I think it means he gets the engaged tone when he rings them?
JBML007 Oct 1, 2013 at 12:41 am
Yeah exactly. This guy is inept!
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jsille Sep 30, 2013 at 2:26 pm
Promisings.... and we'll keep waiting, but wait a minute! Is it still going to be too much waiting? Please!!!!!
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wendy burford Sep 30, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Today I tried my level best to get a z30 sim free I m willing to pay 529 pounds o2 don't know if they will get it car phone warehouse direct didn't even know they were having deliveries today and were more interested in pushing other makes what is going on typed on my great z10
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Anonymous2039 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:43 pm
And you didn't even use ONE punctuation mark. Congratulations!
--Q10 and Canadian all the way! Posted via CB10 on 10.2.0.1443. #IChooseBlackBerry10
Trick_Deck Sep 30, 2013 at 2:29 pm
The Instagram comment is bogus. Android was already on the market for more than 18 months when Instagram became available for iPhone. The key word was "hundreds of millions of users". Until there's a number that high we won't see the app. It's politics. And I bet it goes even deeper than that. To make it abundantly clear, they have no interest in us unless we cross a threshold over 100 mill, even though they know that we would have a better chance of that if they did bring the app. Nothing but hurts the users. Smh
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leehardballer12 Sep 30, 2013 at 8:26 pm
I'm beginning to wonder if there isn't something more sinister at play here....these seem to be lame and flimsy excuses for not bringing an app to a platform, especially when you consider that BlackBerry has offered to put up the money and resources to bring these apps to BB10. I'm thinking competitors smell blood and are (have been, actually) spending money and resources to ensure the destruction of a potential rival. There are just too many negative things about BB10 and BlackBerry being spewed (especially on these forums) that are blatantly false, false with a ring of truth, or highly exaggerated. Then this crap get propagated here and all over the Internet and media...."If it says it on the Internet, it must be true!"....however, BlackBerry does nothing to dispel the lies and inaccuracies and even seems to make it worse...maybe as a Canadian company they are just too "nice". I guess in order to make it with the big boys you have to be the ruthless bloodsuckers that your competitors are...quit laying down and taking it in the ribs, BlackBerry! geez...
chopachain Sep 30, 2013 at 2:32 pm
We'll here goes a viscous circle. BB can't sell coz they don't have apps and developers won't develop coz they don't have numbers.
chopachain Sep 30, 2013 at 2:39 pm
More Canadians turn to Netflix, TV not affected
Published: 27 Sep 2013 12:00
Source: AFP
Consumers are multitasking and using other electronic devices such as phones and tablets while they watch television. (Duncan Alfreds, News24)
Ottawa - More and more Canadians are tuning into online movie streaming websites such as Netflix, but it has not impacted traditional television viewing as feared, according to a report published on Thursday.
The percentage of Canadians that subscribed to Netflix grew from 10% in 2011 to 17% in 2012, while the number of Canadian basic television subscribers increased by 1% to 12 million, according to the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC)'s annual report.
Canada's population is 35 million.
"More Canadians than ever are watching and listening to content on their computers, smartphones and tablets, yet the vast majority of programming is still accessed through traditional television and radio services," CRTC chair Jean-Pierre Blais said in a statement.
The amount of time spent watching television was down only slightly from 2011, averaging 28.2 hours per week, according to the report.
Collectively, Canadians watched 931.3 million hours of television per week, nearly half of which were Canadian programmes.
Meanwhile 33% of Canadians also, or instead, watched internet television, typically about three hours per week, up slightly from the previous year.
Over the coming months, the CRTC will hold public consultations that could lead to an overall in the way Canadians watch television and the prices they pay for cable or satellite television services, with new regulations to follow.
No changes are expected that would impact online movie and television streaming services, after the CRTC twice rejected calls requiring Netflix to buy a broadcasting licence, which helps fund Canadian productions.
In an interview with CBC Radio last week Blais commented that broadcasting is changing and will never be the same.
He noted that almost every Canadian household once had a television set in their living room, but now the trend is moving fast toward on-demand video content that is available on various devices, including tablets.
Other facts from the CRTC annual report:
- More than two out of four Canadians owned a smartphone and more than one out of four owned a tablet in 2012;
- Canadian families spent an average of C$185 each month on communications services;
- Canadians downloaded an average of 28.4GB and uploaded 5.4GB per month; and,
- There were 27.9 million Canadian wireless subscribers versus 11.9 million traditional telephones at home.
Found this on news 24.
anon5129477 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:44 pm
You will have to be patient. The world needs BlackBerry 10. And the future of BlackBerry of which you can't discount. Regardless of the time it took to get a mainstream touchscreen phone.
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NotGoodIMO Sep 30, 2013 at 2:47 pm
"One of the things that Instagram has pointed out to me in the past is they didn't support Android until Android had been in the market for over 18 months and was in the hundreds of million users range. "
Blackberry needs to have numbers for BB10 to succeed. Blackberry just did a write off of almost 1 billion dollars for Z10. If Blackberry sold its phones at breakeven, say Z10 at $200, I am sure they will get the numbers. Look at how Nokia is getting numbers with Lumia 520 and that phone is nothing compared to Z10. They need to do that ASAP with Q5 before its too late and their loyal base starts moving to other platforms becasue of the price. Blackberry can succeed but for that it needs to think like Google and not like Apple. i.e. get phones in the hands of consumers and think of monetizing it later when you have the base.
berries_good Sep 30, 2013 at 2:50 pm
He got a point about android getting the ig. Took 18 months compare to BlackBerry 9 months platform.
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HasKam Sep 30, 2013 at 2:51 pm
So basically instagram want BlackBerry 10 to have around a hundred million users before they can take their heads out of their asses and make a damn app that doesn't earn a single penny... f*ck them. I really want to have the app but if that is how they are going to treat us then to hell with them
Thorsten Out!!!
cbvinh Sep 30, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Um... their free app got them $1 billion from Facebook...
HasKam Sep 30, 2013 at 5:06 pm
And how much has Facebook earned from their acquisition??? I'll wait...
Thorsten Out!!!
Auggy360 Sep 30, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Lol, blackberry just keeps lagging behind in apps. By the time we get instagram it'll be something else the other big players have that BlackBerry doesn't have *le sigh*
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Jerale Hoard Sep 30, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Well as long as we have iGrann we should be able to have people jump ship to the platform. BBM could also have more users move over to the BB10 platform. BlackBerry must prevail.
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With 2011 specs devices priced at 2015 premium you will never reach 13 million BB10 Users
HasKam Sep 30, 2013 at 5:06 pm
Thorsten Out!!!
chopachain Sep 30, 2013 at 2:55 pm
No bud you got to think like BB. We in deep sh1t and just keep on demanding premium prices. Duh!!!
Common sense tells you to grow the user base and then become demanding.
qwerty4ever Sep 30, 2013 at 2:59 pm
Now all the talking heads at BlackBerry come out with announcements and other media fodder? Too late for most I'm afraid.
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devinthomas Sep 30, 2013 at 3:00 pm
I don't want hundreds of new apps I want 10 great ones!!!!! Fire this guy already!
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jsocan Sep 30, 2013 at 3:39 pm
I would think Marty's comment means hundreds of new apps from major developers/partners in the next 90 days. The chances of these apps being quality ones should be higher than if they are from small/independent developers.
JBML007 Oct 1, 2013 at 12:43 am
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Simon, could you find out what happened to Starbucks? Alec Saunders says they were working with them and us CB'ers found out they weren't supporting the platform.
jdcfinisher Sep 30, 2013 at 3:18 pm
BlackBerry said they would send developers to the top app companies and make the apps for them. All the company have to do is test it and aprove it . So are companies turning down a free app custom made for them? Or is BlackBerry B.S.ing us? Are companies simply refusing to be on BB10 even if they could make some money. Or is the compatition so fierce at the top for first and second place in phones that BlackBerrys 2% in market share is 2% to much for them ?
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Murani Lewis Sep 30, 2013 at 6:27 pm
I'm not a BlackBerry user, I use Windows Phone. What I will say is that something fishy is going on. Microsoft and Nokia were offering the same sweet deal. They would send their own development team to develop the app and all the company had to do is sign off on it. Companies still refused. It makes me consider the idea some big brands are paid to stay off smaller platforms.
bluemorph Sep 30, 2013 at 3:19 pm
For the BB10 launch, BlackBerry should have at the very least secured Android ports of all the major apps.
Once the launch was completed then Marty's team would be able to go back to a company like Instagram and convince them to write a native app.
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cbvinh Sep 30, 2013 at 4:17 pm
This probably wasn't feasible since the Android Jelly Bean runtime is just coming out now... It might have been feasible to have old versions of the apps, but maybe these companies don't want to deal with the headache of angry BB10 users...
JBML007 Oct 1, 2013 at 12:44 am
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Nightfox111 Sep 30, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Can someone explain why I can side load a perfect working Netflix, Instagram, Vine, etc. in about 10 minutes on my Z10 and these companies are just out right refusing to release into Blackberry word?
Jahcure Sep 30, 2013 at 3:32 pm
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R Field Sep 30, 2013 at 7:19 pm
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Tahoedan Sep 30, 2013 at 3:27 pm
Marty really needs to go, he is holding BB back. They need to hire a fresh PR firm to get them headed in the proper direction.
JBML007 Oct 1, 2013 at 12:45 am
Marty is a joke.
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drjames05 Sep 30, 2013 at 3:28 pm
What I would love to know, and if anyone knows, an answer would be amazing is... Has BlackBerry offered to the big guys like Instagram, the cash resources to develop, and or the personnel to maintain the app once finished?
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canderson85 Sep 30, 2013 at 3:40 pm
I don't care about instagram
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morphius_z Sep 30, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Tens of millions of phone buyers do. You're comment is irrelevant to this companies survival.
Anyone saying we need tools, not toys, is cementing the situation. You don't need to download it, but it does need to be available to those who do. Or they won't buy a BlackBerry.
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musical1806 Oct 1, 2013 at 1:59 am
No we need tool AND toys. How's you bb10 banking experience? Being able manage my money takes priority of sharing my pics.
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phillyphreak Sep 30, 2013 at 3:43 pm
"Hunting the big fish in a climate like this is a tough-sounding job for Marty, but his answers seem to set the stage well for the months ahead."
This sums up my past experience and present feelings towards bbry. I was always waiting for everything and it appears nothing has changed. Delays, missed deadlines, and altogether flat out lies. This company is either completely out of touch with the market or they are just totally inept at running a business. I think it's a bit of both.
lnichols Sep 30, 2013 at 3:50 pm
More of the same: Coming soon, check out alternatives and workarounds. We don't have Netflix, but have you seen Crackle? Seriously should have known from the app scam that they pulled with the PlayBook that the BB10 launch app partners was a load of bunk.
David Bola Sep 30, 2013 at 3:56 pm
BlackBerry is too slow on keeping apps current.
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dblcup Sep 30, 2013 at 4:29 pm
If I felt BlackBerry was really trying to sell bb10 and that it actually had a future, I could then, maybe, possibly, have the patience to wait for apps...fact is BlackBerry isnt doing what they need to to push their phones. Why on earth would anyone think they'll be around in the future and why would anyone like Instagram build an app for them?? I've been waiting and waiting for a TD Bank app like I had on bb7 and I can't even get that! And they're Canadian!! I'm completely disgusted.
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Waiting for RBC
crazycanuck329 Sep 30, 2013 at 9:25 pm
I have a TD Bank app on my Z10
We are all connected.
michaelshawn Sep 30, 2013 at 4:29 pm
How much does it cost to build instagram for BlackBerry?
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hegemonia Sep 30, 2013 at 4:32 pm
himm i use instagram with full features side loaded to my z10 i did that in what like 5 min. you guess...
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hegemonia Sep 30, 2013 at 4:31 pm
there should be more than 50 million users. only blackberry z10 sold 6 million as far ad i know. i may be wrong. thede numbers are not regional more like globally
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CRJDRIVER Sep 30, 2013 at 4:40 pm
18 months in?! Really? I'm not an Instagram user, but why is getting the "Big Name" apps on BB10 worse than getting teeth pulled, while all Apple has to do is sneeze and the developers come running legs wide open?!
Tumacana Sep 30, 2013 at 4:54 pm
Ummm..correct me if i'm wrong but I am pretty sure Android was around longer than a year and a half (18 months) when Instagram made its debut on IOS. I remember having a G1 like 6-7 years ago.
dblcup Sep 30, 2013 at 4:54 pm
18 mos with no phone sales STILL = NO APPS!!! BlackBerry management has some serious rocks for brains.
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JBML007 Oct 1, 2013 at 12:47 am
Lmao yeah exactly
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milo53 Sep 30, 2013 at 5:00 pm
I don't think it's the fault of this guy. It began years ago, when a co-CEO was flying around the USA blowing millions on chasing Hockey Team purchases, and pissing off many people while doing so. If he did not take his eye off RIM for all this time, maybe things would be different. If the energy was used for chasing Netflix, Instagram and all the others, maybe BB10 would be a hit today. The arrogance over the years displayed by executives at RIM fatally damaged the product, in my opinion. I find it interesting how people at CB have such a short memory. Now, everyone thinks theses guys should return to BB, bring back the old days.
phillyphreak Sep 30, 2013 at 5:33 pm
This. And on top of it all they had their chance to regain some marketshare when they launched bb10 (even though it was hideously behind schedule, the average user had no idea when it was due) but they failed to market it effectively. They essentially put all their eggs in the bb10 basket and expected it to sell itself.
irishdoc Sep 30, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Meanwhile is there a working android version of Spotify for the BlackBerry 10?
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Alan Bertucci Sep 30, 2013 at 5:28 pm
BlackBerry needs a few big names to develop apps and the rest will come. It is getting the first big developer to dive in is the problem. If Instagram jumps more will follow.
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phillyphreak Sep 30, 2013 at 5:41 pm
So what are these few big names waiting for? You think they didn't know bb10 was in development forever or had access to pre-launch devices? Or... . do you think they have assessed bbry and determined it to be a dying platform that they don't want their fingerprints on?
SK122387 Sep 30, 2013 at 5:55 pm
BlackBerry has gotten really good at saying "it's not coming" in a variety of fancy ways. Gotta admit that!
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Solar 77 Oct 1, 2013 at 12:17 am
True that!
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Asif1924 Sep 30, 2013 at 6:04 pm
I used to work with Marty At Sybase many moons ago around 1997
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MozThaGreat Sep 30, 2013 at 6:04 pm
I might be pessimistic when I say this but even if every big name app showed up tomorrow on BB10 I still don't think that would change a thing. BB would still be where it is today.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Kevin in a recent podcast said that Netflix would've built an app for the Playbook if they paid 15 million to support it.......why the hell would BB not take that offer??? Especially when there were literally no other big name apps in the PB OS market or coming soon. I think BB10 would be in a much better place right now if they would have just paid up a few of the app developers to build apps for the OSs back then.
paulmike83 Sep 30, 2013 at 6:10 pm
Whew, im sure glad I could care less about Netflix And Instagram. Feel bad for the people who need it. My buddy always makes fun of people who "need" Netflix on their phone, because we all know there are no other forms of entertainment out there. Hahahaha.
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phillyphreak Sep 30, 2013 at 7:20 pm
I suppose choice is a foreign concept to you? These apps are available on other platforms, why not bbry? And it's time to distinguish a "want" from a "need" Noone needs these apps but the market bbry should be targeting wants them so it's up to them to position themselves to get them. Not all of us smartphone owners are the mobile business tech giant ceos all of crackberry seems to be.
E-MAN89 Sep 30, 2013 at 6:31 pm
BlackBerry is a device for productivity and the new OS was made those X pro-comsumers but it's all a contradiction when you can't even get those apps that help to assist with it all...
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Missy Burton Sep 30, 2013 at 6:38 pm
In reference to the Instagram update...wait...what???
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New_Z10 Sep 30, 2013 at 6:44 pm
"Amazing apps coming in the fall - literally hundreds of them!" Did BlackBerry have a "fart app- port -a- thon? I look forward to bring amazed! You just can't have enough amazing fart apps!
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nabil114 Sep 30, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Whatever! Blackberry might not exist in the future!
imcurved Sep 30, 2013 at 6:58 pm
First, BlackBerry needs to get SayIt developers on board to improve the stock voice functionality. What happen to Vikki? Next is DocToGo. They bought out this team so use them to improve that productivity suite. At the least, we should be able to insert pictures to documents. Emails are still not formatted right on my Z10. This implementation should be on 10.2. I know due time for Remember is coming so that good. I don't know if Calendar integration is much requested feature. These are a couple of selling features that make a BlackBerry a productive device. Most smartphones are for content consumption. BlackBerry should focus on features that allow users to produce/create contents.
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trinibai Sep 30, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Now I don't understand something, I understand that this is about apps for BlackBerry but what I don't understand is why ever make another os7 device when you have the q5 and possibly now the z10 to sell in lower income areas, why wouldn't blackberry just have thought of pushing os7 out of the way and open the market to bb10 and gear the q5 and z10 towards these markets so that they would have the bb10 experience rather than still with the old os7 experience
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nuldahtal Sep 30, 2013 at 7:19 pm
I totally agree.
It's the whole internet strategy. Get users and monetize after when you have a base to make cash with.
alternator77 Sep 30, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Can we please quit it with the 80 million user b.s. Please
No one is going to use netflix on a friggin entry level curve running BlackBerry os 5,6,7 especially with data compression on ALL OF THOSE MODELS. They needed a device like the z10 years ago and thats a fact.
We bitch and moan about these companies not supporting the platform but say nothing when our own mobile nations cant even make apps for bb10. Im looking at you imore, android central and wpc.
Hey kevin instead of payimg $1500 dollars for an iphone maybe they could put some of that money towards oh i dont know developing an app or two.
As far as waiting for a few hundred million users what people fail to realize is that apple and andriod have active ecosystems that consist of tablets, phones and in the case of Samsung and apple mp3 players. This significantly increases the number of users.
When BlackBerry released the playbook although unfinished they had the opportunity to make something that would last but just like the z and q they overpriced them and only now are trying to move them.
Now instead of an ecosystem theyve got four phones 5 with the z30 and a few million sold. Far short of what they needed.
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abdAllah1434 Sep 30, 2013 at 7:55 pm
،،،1،،،((( O mankind! Say No God But Allah, Achieve Eternal Salvation )))
" Laa ilaaha illallah " (There is none worthy of worship except Allah.)
( I bear witness that there is none worthy of worship except Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and messenger )
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SapphireEcstasy Sep 30, 2013 at 7:59 pm
Instagram is just bullshitting or the people responsible for getting devs on board just suck... but whatever I just need this android 4.2 jelly bean in my life. 10.2 please hurry
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if they can't get the major apps on BlackBerry 10, then BlackBerry should work on making the apps that are on the BlackBerry 10 platform the best out of all of the ones available. the Facebook app is pitiful, and the recent Twitter update made it better but they still pale in comparison to the iOS apps.
Supa_Fly1 Sep 30, 2013 at 8:33 pm
Curious why is even Instagram in the headline, when there is no further progress other than talks with them. Instagram is not coming to BB10, and with so much doom and gloom which ensures them that although its business as usual - the REAL message they're hearing is BUSINESS may not be focused on consumers in 6mths from now and only the BES developers will get supported, courted, and their wares deployed. You can forget 18mths with hundreds of million users range, let alone 13 million!!
That alone should be conducive to not have a title that seems misleading. Simon I always hold you as CrackBerry's MAIN EDITOR - a real EDITOR, someone whom fully researches his subject(s) and his craft (which continually improves)!! I always look forward to your posts … just this title bothers me a bit, that's all.
PS: I'm still on BB10 on my Z10 but so much uncertainty and NOTHING publicly in full dedicated writing on their site - and the recent delay of layoffs which I feel is a direct root cause to the delay in BBM going full out on iOS and Android has me thinking "business as usual" = sale, breakup and profits for the underwriters!
ssbtech Sep 30, 2013 at 9:04 pm
What Marty should be offering the big app developers is this:
We'll send 10 of our developers to your head office to sit there and develop these apps. No risk to you, we're trying to make it happen.
Marty, take that corporate jet, stick some devs on it and send it to Instagram, Netflix, etc... give them some hotel passes and tell them not to come back until the apps are written.
Franz Israel Sep 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm
They should have done this the last 5 years instead of paying tens of millions of dollars to executives, board ,members, consultants, celebrities who only destroyed value. They got it all wrong. If this were toi happen in "Game of Thrones" heads of all the kep people at Blackberry will be cut-off.
Supa_Fly1 Oct 1, 2013 at 10:53 pm
Wow... smattering thinking :( let's spend huge amounts of dollars for corporate private jet, pilots that cost huge $$ along with the fuel (no international airport in waterloo btw) and fly them to California and also pay hotel and expenses for developers that will party it up during compiling times (many times over) to develop a product. Keys guess that there are at least another 10 apps from bug name services or companies the avg user wants.
Are you even in the slightest aware what private jets and pilots cost?! In the day and age where EVERY major Gold Mining company (all top 5) no longer does this for their executives and you want in house developers to live like a Columbia drug lord?!
Damn glad you're not running the company, if BlackBerry did that 5yrs ago they wouldn't have any $$ to make it this far the past 2yrs!!
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paulmike83 Sep 30, 2013 at 9:30 pm
How is choice a foreign concept to me?. I choose BlackBerry as my phone, I chose to eat chicken over steak, we can go on all night. You make a good point that BBY should try harder to get Netflix on board so people can choose it. But, we all know Netflix are a bunch of bias assholes and are not giving you that choice to you on the BlackBerry. Regardless, i'm just wishing BlackBerry all the best. From a first time BlackBerry user.
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Anik91 Sep 30, 2013 at 9:40 pm
Alec and Marty sound like they're doing their job correctly!
Let's not blame them though, I would also be reluctant to come to BlackBerry 10 because time equals money. And I can get more money for my time on the iPhone.
BlackBerry Z10, CB10.
Supa_Fly1 Oct 1, 2013 at 11:05 pm
Really?! Check Alecs twitter account to see just how un productive this beer drinking alcoholic lazy funktard is waiting corporate funds. Working hard for 6mths and making two retarded geeky videos for 8 while touring and drinking and eating posting on foursquare is NOT productive or anything I can expect.
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Franz Israel Sep 30, 2013 at 9:49 pm
Proactive with shareholdfers? Are you kidding me? Selling the company at the height of pessimism to a well connected insider who has claimed that blackberry is unfairly beaten down is proactive. Its like you selling your house for a few pennies when others falsely cry "Fire".
Gosh, you people just dont get it.
Fairfax will reap in tens of billion of dollars from Blackberry now that they have screwed the 90% of the public shareholders.
m osnato12 Sep 30, 2013 at 9:49 pm
I hope they get vine
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Fadiga Youssouf Sep 30, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Encore, another lie..... I am truly disappointed with BlackBerry application strategy. This takes you no where if you are not open to real competition.
Verily, they shouldn't think that they can end up as IBM in the computer industry. They might finished as the dumbest marketing, business strategy and business analysis story in corporate world.
This is my feelings if corrective measures are not taken....
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joshua_sx1 Sep 30, 2013 at 10:18 pm
"There's literally hundreds more coming in the next 90 days"... so, they do marketing afterall...
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phillyphreak Sep 30, 2013 at 10:40 pm
My comment about choice was in response to yours regarding the many other entertainment options available to users. If bbry wants to increase its stake in the market it better realize, real quick, that people want these apps; or better yet, want the option to download them. I see that you're a new bbry user, I hope you enjoy your bbry experience more than I did.
musical1806 Oct 1, 2013 at 1:51 am
It seems to me that everyone is disappointed about the wrong bloody apps.
Forget instawhojamaflip and netflickmabean where are the BANKING apps. Here in the UK there is a major push on mobile banking. For example NatWest have a great app on os7 still nothing on BB10 now you have a MAJOR banking group tell there entire customer NOT to bother with BlackBerry as they have no access to mobile banking. Let me clarify
This guy needs to get off of his arse and stop chasing the wrong train 'cause even if you move to enterprise I will still want to do my banking.
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Bravo!! The MOST intelligent and common sense post all damn month!!
Moreover, since these banks are not creating apps for BB10 you can solidly bet that their not looking at keeping their BES implementation as well!! BlackBerry should be seeing the plain common sense about your statement above as a GUN pointed to their heads meaning they'll have less cash to do anything else in the future.
I cannot believe I myself didn't voice this before, sure I knew it's importance and knew this should've been done but quite frankly ALL international banks and investment firms, etc should've been approached first by BlackBerry about BB10 and BES10 before even hinting to the public or developers about it over the social web. They should've made the applications FOR these financial institutions, bent over backwards for them, polished the app and hosted it and all talks at NO CHARGE! Heck give them Bes10 for FREE for 5 yrs with all the timings and support (major international banks like TD Waterhouse, Goodman Saks, etc etc yet it seems that only Reuters and Bloomberg got this)!!
I'm convinced that BlackBerry management are dumb as F*KC! This is basic marketing 101 and survival keep that hand that feeds you happy and pampered, gratefulness is always remembered and rewarded!
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theflyingpig86 Oct 1, 2013 at 2:03 am
I just received a bbm message from an iPhone. Apparently the app was freshly downloaded from Indonesia.
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marmad74 Oct 1, 2013 at 2:49 am
It's just me or his nose getting bigger? I heard that before bought my phone, in January and today is ......
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Agree on banking apps. Isn't BlackBerry supposed to be all about productivity??? Well how is NOT having banking apps making me more productive?? I'm getting so tired of trying to support this company.
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Oh, and almost forgot....how are tons of stupid gaming apps making me more productive??
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Shadberry Bold Oct 1, 2013 at 3:25 pm
Instagram isn't on the windows platform either
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potatoguy Oct 1, 2013 at 6:29 pm
The 18 month wait to go to Android sounds like some sort of contract agreement with Apple.
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I'm tiered of talking…
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Marty's comments about Instagram is a farce. Money talks. Provide development and support dollars to Instagram. If not, then build it in-house like Facebook app. Look at Microsoft's strategy.
Marty does not seem to get it. Instagram and Netflix apps are anchor products to attract new users to BB10. BIG FAIL Marty.


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Looks like Flagstaff has given up on keeping the Arizona Cardinals
Originally published: Mar 5, 2013 - 4:19 pm
"Hosting an NFL team has been a bonus to the local economy, and we have enjoyed welcoming Cardinals fans back to their summer home for the last quarter century," Northern Arizona University President John Haeger said in a press release.
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But losing the Cardinals, who have made the area their training camp home for the last 25 years, is a significant blow to the city.
"We've had a solid partnership with the Cardinals for many years, and we wish them well," Flagstaff Mayor Jerry Nabours said in the release. "Now we move forward in collaboration with the university, which has been a key partner in economic development for decades."
The Cardinals' three-year agreement to hold training camp in Flagstaff ended in 2012, and word leaked over the last couple months they were interested in moving the operation to Glendale, where they play regular season games. Haeger said the school "made an extraordinary offer and worked diligently" to keep the Cardinals in town, but alas it appears it was to no avail.
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iOS 4 spotlight: iPod touch Wi-Fi stays connected when asleep -- iPhone too?
One of the more interesting notes on Apple's iOS 4 for iPod touch page is persistent Wi-Fi connectivity, so Skype calls or push-notifications can come through even when your iPod touch is in sleep mode:
iPod touch can stay connected to Wi-Fi when asleep so you can receive incoming VoIP calls and notifications from compatible third-party apps.
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This just makes me imagine a mophie juice-pack-air type cover accessory with a ear-peice & mic for the iPod Touch. Am I alone ?
I hope it's an optional extra, not something enforced. I like my wifi sleeping when the phone is.
Just one more reason android will never catch up to Apple.
this does happen on iOS 4 i have it installed on my phone and the wifi does stay on in sleep mode
Wifi takes less power than 3G. By quite a bit.
If you have wifi, you want the phone to maintain all its data connections on the wifi, and drop to edge (2g) for incoming calls.
With more and more push enabled apps, (not to mention data caps) its more battery friendly and more important $ wise to stay on wifi, and keep those power hungry 3G radios off.
This is great! The biggest way this bugs me is with Apple's remote app, which only works over WiFi. It's so annoying for it to have to reconnect everytime I use it when I pull it out if sleep. This will be very nice.
I hope so. I'm only using Skype when I get this new iPhone.
this does happen on iOS 4 i have it installed on my phone and the wifi does stay on in sleep mode
Wifi says on in OS 3.2 as well, but only if you are plugged in.
Soon as you unplug it drops wifi within 10 seconds.
So if you tested plugged in, the jury is still out.
This will be key to making the next iPod touch work for facetime. I'll be buying two iPods for my family if the next one has a front camera.
I like to think as my iPhone as being like a sever is has 2 network connections teamed together making it data redundant.
Interesting! My signal is not exactly amazing where I live, so i'm generally switching the wifi on and off all the time. Is it better to just tell the phone to not bother with 3G and leave the wifi on when i'm at home?
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Just turn both on, and the phone will handle it the way it was designed. You are home. You have outlets, don't worry about battery.
Of course this won't matter till iOS4 is out, because the current OS drops wifi fairly quickly when sleeping, (unless plugged in).
Doesn't look like it works for the 3GS on iOS 4. Sometimes I hit the home button on when the phone is locked and I see 3G for a few seconds then it goes back to WIFI. Other times it seems like it stayed connected.
Yeah, I've noticed this working pretty well with notifications while my iPod Touch 2G with iOS 4 is sitting on my table.
@icebike: I thought WiFi was only more power efficient based on how much data is transferred (watts per byte if you like), but when idle I thought 3G was much more power efficient since it practically turns off, no?
@MrC that's what I have read as well.
This would be great if it were to work on the iPhone as well. Ever since the introduction of the capped plans by AT&T a lot of iPhone users have scrutinized their wireless bills and have noticed that there are data charges in the middle of the night and one theory is that Push enabled features are running on 3G/Edge in the middle of the night and racking up charges that prior to the capped plans being introduced were never even noticed by most of us. There is a growing thread at Apple Discussion board (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2450738&start=0&tstart=0) of people trying to figure this out. So having WiFi be a persistent connection at night might help if some of the theories are true.
This little feature makes the iPhone as Remote actually useful.
Now, 0 delay when picking up the remote, swiping to unlock and pressing the TiVo 30 second skip button.
Did apple give an APIs for Wifi in this latest update, ? would be great to choose where your Wifi was on & off depending on your location. I only ever use wifi in a couple of places and don't need it the rest of the time.
Who has an iPhone and no email checking, no push apps?
A radio that has to broadcast 30 feet is going to take way less power than one that has to broadcast 5 of 10 miles.
Most WIFI, transmissions are listen only. There is not that much traffic from the client to the access point, certainly less then the with 3G.
See also http://tinyurl.com/l2ajn7
What would be really useful (in terms of ipod parity) is soft gps via wifi.
I would love to not have to turn on the battery-sucking gps radio when all i might actually need is just "good enough" gps.
iPhone (iOS4 GM) too stays connected when asleep (verified) ;) , but yet no 3º party apps in app store for try it in background.
wifi kills battery so i hope it's optional
I have an IPod Touch 3G with the iOS 4 GM in it, and I can say it stays connected on Wifi.
I didn't notice my battery draining any quicker and it's always nice to receive push notifications and email almost instantaneously, so thumbs up for Apple.
That would be fantastic! On a recent trip to Vegas I made sure we had a hotel with free wifi and that I also had a data roaming plan.
To my surprise, the iPhone leaks about 10MB of data per night because even though you have wifi available, when the phone goes to sleep it switches to 3g for checking email, voicemail, and push notifications.
That works out to about $3 per night. Without a roaming plan about $30 per night. All when it should have been using wifi!
@icebike: My point was that even when no data is being trasnmitted, WiFi radios are not turned off, they just go into a semi-low power mode, otherwise the access point would immediately decide the device has disconnected and disassociate.
Whereas with 3G/GSM even when maintaining a data connection, if no data is being transmitted the radio basically turns off and only wakes up periodically to let the cell tower know you are still in range.
I would imagine even with Push, email polling and a VoIP app running, the data connection would be idle most of the time while your phone is asleep so 3G would still be more power efficient in theory.
@icebike: Oh and the link you provided is correct, but that only applies to when data is actively being transmitted since they're talking about using data services on current iPhones that turn off WiFi when asleep.
Actually this feature is already on the iPhone (3.1.3) and the iPad (3.2), put to sleep your iPad and still you will receive mails.
@Humberto: That is using 3G data while asleep. At least it is on my iPhone 3G with WiFi turned on.
That waking up periodically amounts to every millisecond IIRC.
Even for mail checks on a half hour schedule it has to wake up the transmitter, log into the tower, establish a TCP connection, check mail, transfer mail, etc. All of this takes much longer on 3G, a more battery demanding radio than the fast but whimpy WiFi.
I didn't make this up. Its widely established that keeping wifi on in sleep mode is more battery conserving than staying on 3G for the normal mix of traffic on a smart phone.
This is why Android has a WiFi Sleep policy of NEVER as the recommended setting for users with wifi available most of the time.
3G being a power adaptive technology, living very close to a 3G tower might make 3G a better way to go.
But most people with a phone that can do this actually get better runtime with WIFI enabled and Never Sleep selected. Usually by quite a lot.
(Part of this is because the iPhone is continuously getting a new IP via 3G. Some studies suggest every minute or two.http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/maheshba/papers/ephemera-i...
For those interested: The only way you can reliably know if your phone drops WiFi when in sleep mode is to look up its IP in settings, and ping the phone from some other computer. Let it fall asleep (not plugged in), and your pings will fail 10 seconds after it goes to sleep. With iOS4 (or an Android phone) you can ping it on wifi forever.
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-Just one more reason android will never catch up to Apple.
Android is keeping up just fine in my opinion 2.2 is pretty amazing.
Yes this is kind of an option you have to turn on notifications for this to work if they're off then wifi will disconnect
I like the idea, but I think there should be a way to turn it off, who else thinks so?
@ryan: yes, I think so too. The battery life of my iPod touch is now horrible with ios4! It's dead after one day in standby. I hope apple is going to fix this issue pretty soon.
I could have sworn my iPod kept wifi on while sleeping before ios4... And now that I have os4 the wifi ALWAYS disconnects when I un sleep it. It's really really annoying, especially because it has no reason to disconnect!
If you want to turn off persistent wi-fi on your iPod Touch just turn off all notifications and alerts in settings. If you have even one application with alerts/notification turned on it will turn on persistent wifi.
HJ, thanks for the tip. All these days I've been wondering why the wifi stayed on all the time.
In 38 comments, nobody has mentioned the battery impact of this feature. I charged my ipod in the morning, and the next morning I barely had any battery left. It happened twice, and I didnt know why. Now I know.
I am using iPod Touch 2G and installed iOS 4.0. I found my iPod Touch used up the battery in just half day comparing to a few days before. And the wifi connection is not stable. It reconnects to the base station every minute. I tried WPA2, WPA and WEP but no help. Would anyone tell me a better solution?
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when i go to bed, i wake up to a dead ipod because it uses so much battery to use wi-fi >.<
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---- — DERRY — Town councilors decided it was too soon to ask residents to pay more for water.
Councilors voted unanimously not to increase municipal water rates. Derry's last rate increase of 1 percent was effective with the June 2013 billing cycle.
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Free glow sticks and jingle bells will be provided for all participants. Refreshments also will be available along the way.
The path is a 3.2 mile loop with several short-cuts built in that reduce the distance to as little as 2.5 miles. There is no set start time, and the path will be closed to vehicles on this day.
Parking will be available at the Hampton Municipal Parking Lots, which are located at 3101 McCully Road in Allison Park. Shuttles will be running to and from the park about every two minutes. Shuttles will run to the park from 5 to 9 p.m. The last shuttle leaves the park at 10 p.m.
The suggested donation is $10 per person, $5 per student or $20 per family. Donations benefit Project Bundle Up, the Salvation Army, the Woodlands Foundation and other local charities.
The UPMC Celebration of Lights officially opens Nov. 18 and runs to Jan. 8, 2012.
For more information, contact firstname.lastname@example.com or see www.alleghenycounty.us/parks/hwfac.aspx.


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The Huffington Post's Tyler Kingkade linked to late last week on over 200 protesters — along with several other protests, town halls and fundraisers across the U.S. — where constituents voiced demands that Congress focus on jobs rather than trying to reduce the deficit.
Republican legislators appear to be the focus during Congress' summer break in August after their "" budget plan failed and a compromise was struck to raise the debt limit in exchange for spending cuts. The wave of protest is reminiscent of the uproar experienced by representatives and senators on break during the health care reform debate in the summer of 2009.
For more on this story, please see Tyler Kingkade's story by clicking here, titled "House Republicans Get An Earful At Town Halls Back Home"


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Police believe accidental shooting injured Madbury woman Saturday
Police, firefighters and emergency personnel responded around 7 p.m. after receiving a report that the woman, Ashley Smith, 25, sustained a gunshot to the leg at her home at 309 Knox Marsh Road. Knox Marsh Road is Route 155 in Madbury.
McGann said investigators believe the incident occurred while her husband, Jeffery Smith, 27, was showing her his new 9 mm pistol.
"Right now, it appears to be a truly accidental shooting," Madbury Police Chief Joseph McGann said, adding the matter remains under investigation and will eventually be reviewed by the County Attorney's Office.
McGann said crews from McGregor Ambulance transported the woman, who sustained non-life threatening injuries, to Wentworth-Douglass Hospital in Dover. He said her husband, who was very cooperative, drove to the hospital to be with her.
"There was no exit wound - so it wasn't in and out," McGann said.
Regardless of experience or training, McGann said police hope everyone with a weapon always treat it as if it's loaded, keep it pointed "down range" and away from other people. "When you own firearms, there's a certain responsibility that comes with it," McGann said, adding all gun owners should complete a gun safety course and stay up to date with procedures and the law.
McGann said there are many qualified and certified weapons safety classes in the area. He added he usually refers local residents to take a course at Major Waldron Sportsmen's Association in Barrington.
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