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Recent Appointments In Deloitte Turkey Leadership
Deloitte Turkey Chairman of the Board and Managing Partner Levent Yaveroğlu handed over his Managing Partner duities to Hüseyin Gürer. Ömer Tanrıöver was assigned as Deloitte Turkey Partner in Charge of Audits in Gürer's place. Yaveroğlu who has made important contributions to the transformation of Deloitte into the leading professional services provider in Turkey for 21 years will continue to assume his role as Chairman of Deloitte Turkey Board of Partners and Board of Directors.
4 June 2007, Istanbul; As of 1 June 2007, Deloitte Turkey announced recent appointments in leadership. Founding Partner of Deloitte Turkey, Levent Yaveroğlu has handed over his Managing Partner duities to Hüseyin Gürer, the Partner in Charge of Audit.Yaveroğlu will continue to assume his role as Chairman of Deloitte Turkey Board of Partners and Board of Directors and representing Deloitte Turkey at the Global Firm while Ömer Tanrıöver has been assigned as Partner in Charge of Audit, which was vacated by Gürer.
Noting that Deloitte Turkey had left behind 21 years of success, Levent Yaveroğlu said that Hüseyin Gürer would make great contributions in the strong dynamics of growth of Deloitte Turkey. Yaveroğlu continued:
"I am very happy to hand over to an experienced name my duty as Deloitte Turkey's Managing Partner, where I have served since its inception and which is among the leading firms in its sector in Turkey as in the world. Under Hüseyin Gürer's leadership, we will confidently continue advancing towards our goal of becoming the largest and most preferred professional service provider in the sector by 2010."
Deloitte Turkey Managing Partner Hüseyin Gürer received his M.A. in Business Administration at the Middle East Technical University. He worked at the Deloitte London office for 18 months between 1989-1990. In 1994, he became a member to the Accounting and Auditing Standards Board of Turkey. He was elected as a member of the Accounting Standards Board of Turkey in 2004 where he currently serves as one of the 9 members of the board. A certified public accountant, he speaks fluent English and is married with two children.
Deloitte Turkey Partner in Charge of Audit, Ömer Tanrıöver graduated from Istanbul University Department of Business Administration in 1988. He started his career at Deloitte in 1991 as an assistant and then worked as director in charge of audits at Deloitte UK Southampton office between 1994-1996. He commands considerable experience in the design, development and application of financial management and accountancy information systems, transition of companies to IFRS and consolidation applications in groups with multiple companies. A certified public accountant, he speaks English and French fluently and is married with a child.
Deloitte Global elects new CEO
Deloitte Global also had a CEO change as of the beginning of June. Bill Parrett, CEO of the firm which increased its global revenue to USD 23 billion in FY2007, continuing its strong growth, turned over the office of the CEO to Jim Quigley as of 1 June 2007 while John Connolly will assume the Chairman of the Board of Directors. Both were elected by the votes of more than 7,600 partners from Deloitte member firms from all around the world.
About Deloitte Turkey
One of the leading firms of the world in audit, tax, corporate finance and management consultancy, Deloitte operates in nearly 140 countries with its 150,000 personnel. The company's global turnover in 2006 was USD 23 billion.
Using advanced technology and bringing together its knowledge and skills from various fields, Deloitte undertakes to provide all its customers around the globe with the same high-quality services. Serving to more than 80% of the largest companies in the world as well as large national enterprises, public institutions, national giants, and rapidly growing global companies, Deloitte is also a market leader in many emerging economies.
Deloitte started its operations in Turkey in 1986 where it currently operates in Istanbul and Ankara with over 700 employees. Deloitte owns five companies in Turkey providing services in audit, tax, management consultancy, corporate finance, and corporate risk.


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Porgia Tirebiter's online political and life rants. NSA spying, illegal aliens, kickbacks, or just plain ramblings and musings about the idiocy of life...you'll find it all on this blog as I hammer at our Corrupt American Society.
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Do you have a classic/vintage car taking up space in your garage? If you would like to get rid of it, I will pay $200 for it! European Roadster, 50's or 60 American Muscle Car, a Rolls, perhaps a Bentley or Aston Martin...does not matter, I'd love to have it, but have a limited budget here as you can see. If you are interested, drop me a line, as I would love to hear from you. email@example.com
If you like this blog, PLEASE link to it or Friend list me so that I can grow my readership.
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Good Bye Dinero Boo...we shall love and cherish you always.
Dinero Boo October 11th, 1995-December 2nd, 2006
On November 7th, the voters sent a message to George Bush and the Republican Party...Stay the Course is not working, and we want change. Further, we called for an end to corruption, an end to the gifts and special access of Corporate America. Cannondale did not get the clue, and there is now a million click You Tube protest that has been started...join in by watching the video, or tossing a link the the blog hosting it. The goal in this Boycott...get Cannondale to take their bike(s) back from President Bush.
Toss a Link to the blog hosting this BOYCOTT
Link to the video on your Bravenet BLog:
Greetings Sports Fans:
First, apologize for my absense from this blog. I have spent a great deal of the past month working in my own small way to get John Hall elected to Congress here in New York's 19th District. I am pleased to announce that those efforts were successful, as he upset 6 term Republican Sue Kelly for the seat in a close fought battle. I like to think some of my own attack blogs, and video's uploaded onto the You Tube site contributed in some small way.
Being involved in said campaign in some ways, I think, has changed me though only time will tell. To that end, I have spent this past week creating a new group of blogs over on the Blogger site that I am hoping to use as we gear up for the 2008 Presidential Election cycle. I'll be letting most, if not all of my blogs here on Bravenet lanquish, though still not fully decided on what to do with this one, as it was/is my favorite.
The links to my new blog presense are below, and have been added to the side bar here. It is my hope that many of you will stop by to have a look, and that some will become regular visitors or even participants...all four of these blogs are open to writers that are looking to contribute well written pieces to the site, and you can email me at firstname.lastname@example.com if you have a serious interest in the new Democratic Majority, politics in general, or scandal within Washington's beltway. Further, am looking for good political content blogs to add to the Gather Democrats, or Political Blog sections on the side bars of these new blogs.
If after visiting my new efforts you are impressed with any of them, hope you will consider tossing me a link on your blog, or web sites.
In peace....Porgie Tirebiter
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Sue Kelly is in perfect LOCKSTEP with the White House when it comes to George Bush's, "Stay The Course" policy where the Iraq War and Insurgency is concerned. Question is, at what cost to our loved ones in HARMS WAY?
A copy of this has been sent to the White House, both George W. Bush, and VP Dick Cheney.
October 20, 2006 05:11 PM EDT
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Our Fallen Heroes in Bush's Iraq Debacle
The War in Iraq is not going well, and the signs are everywhere that we need a change. So far, in the 20 days of October we have lost 76 of our fine young fighting men and women, yet Bush has REFUSED to release James Baker report and recommendations until AFTER the election...why?
More importantly, what if after the election is over, after Bush has done everything he can to PROTECT Republican seats in both the House and Senate it turns out that he cannot and will not Stay The Course. Should that report be released now, or should the White House be allowed to KILL OUR SOLDIERS in the name of saving Republican seats in the House and Senate?
People in the know, including George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Condi Rice know what those findings are, have already read the report, are already discussing with Generals at the Pentagon what changes are to be made in Iraq. If it turns out after the election that MAJOR CHANGES are required in Iraq, whose hands should the blood of our fallen fighting men and women be on? If it turns out that report has been kept under wraps to SAVE Republicans, should members of the Republican White House Administration be impeached?
I would CHALLENGE the Republican Party to do the RIGHT THING, and demand release of the Commission Report on Iraq immediately, for doing anything less makes ALL OF YOU and accomplice to the needless death of more American Troops.
If you are a Democrat, if you are voting for a Democrat because you are ready for a CHANGE in Washington, DC now is the time to make a donation to A) your favorite local Democratic challenger who is taking on a well heeled Republican Canidate, or B) to the national Democratic Party.
The Republicans have almost $100 MILLION more nationally than the Democrats, but they are faltering. Think about this...100,000 people each donating $100 would be enough money to successfully compete in TEN RACES where right now Democratic Candidates are out gunned financially.
The Washington Post has an article in today's paper announcing that the Republican Party is ABANDONING many races, and spending heavily between now and November in a DESPARATE BID to hold onto the majority, if only barely. This means certain states Congressional races are now UP FOR GRABS where they were not. This gives the Democrats a HUGE OPENING.
This is WHERE YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. $5, $10 or even $20 dollars in donations RIGHT NOW, could see the Democrats pick up a few additional seats. Right now, the Democratic National Party is polling additional races to see if they are competitive enough to jump into with NATIONAL FUNDING. Moveon.Org this week raised over $750,000 in ONE DAY with small donations. That kind of money COULD SWING A DISTRICT, such as the 19th Congressional District here in New York where John Hall is giving incumbent Tom De Lay Republican Sue Kelly a run for her money, even though she has more than ONE MILLION dollars more to spend than his campaign does. Imagine GATHER readers all getting involved in John Hall's campaign with small donations, and putting him over the top! Go check him out here: http://www.johnhallforcongress.com/node/2
Also, you can donate pens, poster board, hand soaps and paper towels to help keep down office expenses, which would allow him to maybe run an extra television ad, or make a couple more appearences between now and the election. Go buy two rolls of paper towels, send one to John Hall, and one to your local Democratic Canidate of choice...every dollar saved towards advertising makes a difference!
Mail this in kind donation to:
John Hall For Congress
420 Main Street
Beacon, NY 12508
John Hall is not the only deserving NEW FACE candidate out there, so help him, and then pick one out of your own, write an article about them here on Gather, provide a link their Campaign Website, give the phone number out for their campaign. You can reach John Hall's Campaign at this number: (845) 831-1735
Can't afford ten dollars? Take half and hour and write letters to the editor...people read them, and they make a HUGE DIFFERENCE. Each and every vote is going to count this November 7th.
*note-for those who will ask...I am not associated with, nor a paid staff member of the John Hall Campaign. I just happen to think he makes a GREAT CANDIDATE, and deserves to go to Washington, DC. Also, for all you music buffs out there, you might enjoy doing a GOOGLE search for John Hall and the band Orleans.
John Hall For Congress...RIDE THE WAVE
American patriots first dumped tea over taxes; now it could be beer over lax immigration enforcement.
More than 100 groups are being organized to support a national boycott of Miller Brewing Co. and parent company SABMiller plc, because of what is viewed as the corporation's support for illegal immigrants and amnesty for them.
"The boycott message is simple. Miller Brewing Company supports illegal immigration by giving money to groups that support amnesty, marches, and benefits for illegal aliens," the announcement on Monday said. "Citizens are encouraged to 'Dump the beer! Dump the stock.'"
Consumers should avoid Miller Lite, ICE House, Miller Genuine Draft and Milwaukee's Best, according to organizers who have posted their documentation and petition plans at www.MillerBoycott.com.
"It is time for these large corporations that are using their financial influence to open America's borders to be punished!" said William Gheen, of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC. "It is time for the immigration enforcement movement to show these unscrupulous corporations what we can do when we all work together."
The coalition is pursuing the boycott under the auspices of the National Illegal Immigration Boycott Coalition, and will be headed up by Gheen and Jason Mrocheck of WeHireAliens.com and FIRE Coalition, officials said.
FIRE is the Federal Immigration Reform and Enforcement coalition.
POORLY WRITTEN ARTICLE in Chicago Tribune....notice how they provide NO LINKS to the boycott! Do not even mention the MAIN ORGANIZERS of the event...Chicago Tribune gave MUCH MORE COVERAGE to a very brief boycott of Miller by the ILLEGAL ALIENS...we see where the TRIBUNE stands on the issue...those bastards.
In an unprecedented abuse of Presidential powers, George Bush has been using the office to force his views, and the Republican Agenda into our homes as he tries to steal yet another election this November. His problem though, is his rhetoric does not match the FACTS on the ground as it were. Below is his missive of today, my own questions and thoughts on his misstatements in red.
Today, President Bush Delivered A Progress Report On What We Have Done To Fix The Problems Exposed By The 9/11 Attacks. Nothing quickly pops into mind...we still have MILLIONS of illegal aliens flooding across our UNSECURED Southern Borders, our ports are not secure, and here in New York, the Indian Point Nuclear Power plant is ANYTHING BUT SECURE AND SAFE.
The President looked back at four key stages of the 9/11 plot, the gaps in America's defenses that each stage exposed, and the ways we have addressed those gaps to make our country safer and help prevent another attack.
Over The Past Five Years, We Have Waged An Unprecedented Campaign Against Terror At Home And Abroad – And That Campaign Has Succeeded In Stopping Another Attack On Our Homeland. (First, notice that Bush wants to IGNORE the fact that terrorists attacks WORLD WIDE are up, not down...guess his rhetoric about caring about our friends and partners is all for the cameras? Further, his claim is not truthful...am I the only reader here that remembers the ANTHRAX attacks? Were those NOT TERRORIST ATTACKS inside our BORDERS?) Thanks to the efforts of our intelligence, law enforcement and military communities, America has not been struck again since the attacks of 9/11. Yet we have seen our enemies strike in Britain, Spain, India, Turkey, Russia, Indonesia, Jordan, Israel, Afghanistan, Iraq, and other countries. Just last month, police and intelligence officers from Britain, America, Pakistan, and other allies foiled a suicide plot to blow up passenger planes on their way to the U.S.(Curious here George Bush...if we are WINNING THE WAR ON TERROR under your REICH, how come all those countries are being attacked, why are the number of attacks WAY UP? Has it occurred to you, that your having America BOGGED DOWN IN IRAQ, instead of fighting the war on terror is a major contributing factor to these elevated attacks?)
In The First Key Stage Of The 9/11 Plot, Al Qaeda Conceived And Planned The Attacks From Abroad (Yes, they did plan it from afar, and then on August 6th, you TOTALLY IGNORED a serious warning in your Daily BRIEFING...OH WAIT, you don't like to read do you Mr. Bush...maybe that explains how you missed it, explains why you failed to put out a warning to the nations airports?)
After 9/11, The President Set Forth A New Doctrine: Nations That Harbor Or Support Terrorists Are As Guilty As The Terrorists, And Will Be Held To Account. (This sounds really good Mr. Bush, but if you REALLY MEAN THAT, why is Iran about to have the NUCLEAR BOMB, why did we not step in and fight side by side with Israel in their battle against the TERRORIST ORGANIZATION Hezbollah, why have we not taken actions against both Syria and Iran for ARMING and FINANCING this terrorist group? FACE IT MR. BUSH...you again are LYING TO US. Your actions to not back up your words, because you are a COWARD.) The first stage of the 9/11 plot exposed serious flaws in the old approach to terrorism – most importantly, that allowing states to give safe haven to terrorist networks is a grave mistake. (Again then...if as you say we cannot allow states to PROVIDE SAFE HAVEN to terrorists, why are the troops in Iraq, instead of knocking on the door of Damascus or Tehran? If we learned this lesson, seems to me we should have stayed in Afghanistan until the JOB WAS FINISHED, and Bin Laden was DEAD.)
Key Advantages Al Qaeda Enjoyed While Plotting The 9/11 Attack In Afghanistan Have Been Taken Away. (You Mr. BUSH must have the stupidest staff in the world...do they also NOT READ? In today's paper, it was announced that the War Lords in Afghanistan are as powerful as ever after a BUMPER OPIUM crop this year, and their forces are giving the United Nations troops fits...35 Canadian and Brittish troops dead this week. That does not sound as if you have TAKEN ANYTHING AWAY, other than on a very brief temporary basis.) With Afghan allies, America removed the Taliban from power and closed the al Qaeda training camps. In addition to military efforts, we are using financial tools, diplomatic pressure, and intelligence operations to disrupt the day-to-day functions of al Qaeda. As a result, al Qaeda can no longer move widely without fearing for their lives, transfer money easily through the international banking system, or communicate openly without risking detection. (Terrorists attacks ARE UP all over the world Mr. Bush, and Hezbollah just fought Israel to a stand still while launching THOUSANDS OF MISSILES into Israeli land. Recruits are UP for Al Quida, their insurgents are fighting us to a DRAW IN IRAG, yet you want us to believe your strategies are working, that you have stemmed their cash flow, and halted their movements?)
In The Second Key Stage Of The 9/11 Plot, KSM And Bin Laden Identified, Trained, And Deployed Operatives To The United States (Well, you at least got this sentence correct.)
Since 9/11, We Have Addressed The Gaps In America's Defenses That Were Exploited By Al Qaeda To Carry Out The 9/11 Attacks. (Have you Mr. Bush? I take it you do not watch Lou Dobbs? On his show tonight, he had a report that thousands of potentially dangerous individuals have entered America in the past year with FALSE PASSPORTS, and without a visa. Further, he again mentioned OUR UNSECURED BORDER WITH MEXICO, and the MILLIONS of criminals still streaming in. Tell me then how you have addressed these issues?)We have upgraded technology and added new layers of screening and security to the immigration and visa system. (HELLO....if a terrorist wants, there are TWENTY SEVEN different countries they can go to that then let them enter America WITH NO VISA...again MR. Bush that was on tonights evening news programs if you cared to watch. )Today, visa applicants like those who participated in the 9/11 hijackings would have to appear for face-to-face interviews, be fingerprinted and screened against an extensive database of known or suspected terrorists, and be checked again upon arrival to make sure their fingerprints match the fingerprints on their visas. (Again, not if they choose to enter through one of the twenty seven nations mentioned above, or if they choose to simply WALK ACROSS our Southern border, or pay a COYOTE $3,000 to bring them in.)
Terrorist Watchlists Have Been Improved. We have established common criteria for posting terrorists on a consolidated terrorist watchlist that is widely available across Federal, State, and local government. Information from this list would be accessible at airports, consulates, border crossings, and to State and local law enforcement. Your own people snuck through both the Northern and Southern borders with FAKE ID's, so your watch list is RUBBISH.
At The President's Direction, The NSA Created The Terrorist Surveillance Program (TSP). (You mean the same NSA spying case that the courts have stated are UNCONSTITUTIONAL? That program Mr. Bush? The one you keep insisting is legal, even though you have LOST EVERY COURT CASE CHALLENGE on your contentions...in fact, the court overseeing wiretaps have stated they believe the program is ILLEGAL.) Before 9/11, U.S. intelligence professionals found it difficult to monitor international communications, such as those between the planners of the 9/11 attack abroad and the al Qaeda operatives secretly in the United States. (Hello, you have THREE FULL DAYS after you start a wire tap to get a SEARCH WARRANT...stop with the DAMN LIES you MAGGOT.)The TSP helps protect Americans by allowing us to track terrorist communications like these, so we can learn about threats like the 9/11 plot before it is too late.
Once Again, The President Called On Congress To Promptly Pass Legislation Providing Additional Authority For The Terrorist Surveillance Program. (IF as you say, the program is LEGAL, why do you need NEW LAWS passed? You should be impeached.) A legal challenge to the TSP was recently upheld by a Federal district court judge in Michigan. The Administration strongly disagrees with this ruling, is appealing it, and believes its appeal will be successful. (Hello...YOU LOST, get over it, and start OBEYING THE LAWS of the United States....OH, I forgot, you only enforce laws that suit you...the 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS HERE PROVE THAT ONE.) A series of protracted legal challenges would put a heavy burden on this crucial program and could present unacceptable delays. (Delays in what, your raping and pillaging of our constitutional RIGHTS? You are despicable.)
In The Third Key Stage Of The 9/11 Plot, The Rest Of The 19 Al Qaeda Operatives Arrived In The United States (As someone living in New York, let me tell you Mr. Bush....you had a CHANCE to stop 9/11 and BLEW IT...stand up and be a man, admit you screwed up, admit that you should have taken action on that briefing paper.)
In Response To 9/11, The FBI Has Made Protecting America From Terrorist Attack Its Top Priority. The FBI has hired more counter terrorism agents and analysts; created a unified National Security Branch to coordinate terrorism investigations and intelligence operations; and expanded the number of Joint Terrorism Task Forces to help Federal, State, and local law enforcement officers work together. Curious here Mr. Bush...if you are SO CONCERNED with National Security, why did you boot out of the military numerous well trained ARABIC SPEAKING AND READING soldiers because they were GAY? Are you so HOMOPHOBIC that you put your church doctrines ahead of NATIONAL SECURITY?
In Addition, We Worked With Congress To Tear Down The Legal And Bureaucratic Wall That Kept Law Enforcement And Intelligence From Sharing Information. All levels of government are sharing far more information than ever before and connecting the dots to stop terrorists before they strike. With Congress, we have:
The Fourth And Final Stage Of The 9/11 Plot Came On The Morning Of The Attack
(The Morning when you kept READING TO SCHOOL CHILDREN, rather than take decisive action? That MORNING Mr. Bush? By the way, what was your father doing that morning meeting with members of the Bin Laden family in a POSH Washington, DC hotel? Furthermore, why did you let the Bin Laden family fly out of America the next day before the FBI and the CIA had ample chance to question them?)
We Have Taken Many Steps To Address The Security Gaps That The Hijackers Exploited That Morning. We have created the Transportation Security Administration to ensure that every passenger and every bag is screened; increased the number of Federal air marshals on domestic and international flights; trained and authorized thousands of pilots to carry firearms; and hardened cockpit doors to prevent terrorists from gaining access to the controls. How about doing something that lets America live normally, allows us to do simple things like carry a bottle of shampoo or perfume onto the plan with us? Take some of that money you are wasting in Iraq, and give us SOME TRUE SECURITY.
We Are Working To Stay Several Steps Ahead Of The Terrorists, America Has Gone On The Offense Across The World, And Our Country Is Safer
On 9/11, We Saw That The Terrorists Have To Be Right Only Once To Kill Our People – While We Have To Be Right Every Time To Stop Them. To protect the American people, we need to do everything in our power to stop the next attack. (Give it up Mr. Bush, you have BEAT THAT LINE TO DEATH, milked every last drop of political life you are going to get out of it. By the way, how long was it between the first and second attack of the World Trade Center? In short, stop touting your record of keeping us safe for five years, as I am NOT IMPRESSED.)
As We Fight The Enemies Of A Free Iraq, We Must Also Ensure That Al Qaeda And Its Allies Never Get Their Hands On The Tools Of Mass Murder. We launched the Proliferation Security Initiative, a coalition of more than 70 countries that are cooperating to stop shipments related to deadly weapons. We worked with Great Britain to persuade Libya to give up its nuclear weapons program and put the black market nuclear network of A.Q. Khan, who was shipping equipment to Iran and North Korea, out of business. Stop the SMOKE AND MIRRORS Mr. Bush, and tell us what you are going to do about both Iran and North Korea.
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When the Boycott Miller Brewing Company was organized, the goal of the key players was to get 100 organizations behind the BOYCOTT...well, three days into the boycott, and the organizers are well over half the way home to reaching that goal with 56 supporting organizations now on board.
Here are the LATEST statistics, and a link for those wishing to sign up for this GREAT AMERICAN MOVEMENT.
National Illegal Immigration Boycott Coalition
[56 supporting organizations; our goal is 100+]
Launch Date: 9/5/2006
21st Century Paul Revere Ride 9/11 Families For a Secure America Alamo Alliance ALIPAC American Freedom Riders AmericanPatrol.com BoycottMiller.com Buy Direct USA California Coalition of Immigration Reform Chicago Minuteman Project Citizens Against Illegal Aliens Citizens Council on Illegal Immigration Citizens for a Constitutional Republic CT Citizens for Immigration Control The Conservative Voice Eagle Forum of California FIRE Coalition Floridians for Immigration Enforcement Friends of the Border Patrol Frosty Wooldridge Gilchrist's Angels IllegalAliens.us IllegalImmigrantProtest.com Immigration Watchdog Indiana Federation for Immigration Reform and Enforcement Invading America Las Vegas Minutemen Latino Americans for Immigration Reform (LAIR) Massachusetts Citizens for Immigration Reform The Midwest Minutemen Minnesotan Minutemen Minnesotans Seeking Immigration Reform Minuteman Civil Defense Corps Mississippi Federation for Immigration Reform and Enforcement Mothers Against Illegal Aliens NC Listen Northern New Mexico Minuteman Civil Defense Corps Ohio Jobs & Justice Porgie's Political Bullsheet San Diego Border Alert Save Our State Secured Borders USA Take Back Georgia The Terry Anderson Show The Uncooperative Blogger United Patriots of America U.S. Border Alert U.S. Border Control U.S. Border Watch VDare.com United Citizens of America Vietnamese for Fair Immigration Wachdog America Washingtonians for Immigration Reform WeHireAliens.com Worlds Reality
As regular readers of my blog know, I ADORE fine automobiles, even if from afar. Needing a break from my efforts to support the Miller Brewing Company BOYCOTT I decided to check in on my own FAVORITE electric car Company, Tesla Motors and all I can say is WOW.
Their goal had been to take orders for 100 Signature Series Roadsters, and they have ACCOMPLISHED that goal and then some as they are now taking reservations for their next 100 Roadsters! Any one out there interested in buying this opinionated old hippie one of these DREAM MACHINES? (Never hurts to ask.)
Response to the Tesla Roadster has been even greater than we anticipated, and we've "sold out" of our special edition Signature One Hundred Roadsters. We're now taking reservations for our next 100 Tesla Roadsters to be built.

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We operate in four countries in Europe and Latin America, hold leading positions in Portugal and Ecuador and are the main distributors in Spain and Peru.
The LPG business helps Repsol to advance along the road to excellence, realised through its commitment to customers, shareholders, employees, suppliers, partners and society in general.
In Spain, we distribute Liquefied Petroleum Gas (LPG) in bottles, in bulk, AutoGas and piped through collective distribution networks. Our network of 232 distribution agencies provides nationwide service for our bottled LPG customers.
In Portugal, we distribute LPG in bottles, in bulk, AutoGas and piped and we supply other operators. We have a network of 200 dealers and 10,000 bottled LPG points of sale across Spain.
In Latin America, Ecuador and Peru specifically, we sell bottled, bulk, piped and automotive LPG, for the domestic, commercial and industrial markets.
An important milestone for us was the delivery of more than 16,000 kitchens by LPG Peru in 2012, with the support of Fundación Repsol. The target was to replace the domestic consumption of kerosene and firewood with LPG, set by the Ministry of Energy and Mines of Peru in 2009. Moreover, in collaboration with MINEM and UNDP (United Nations) we provided 5,000 kitchens as part of the NINA project.
In addition, and with the aim of improving living conditions in extreme situations such as earthquakes and floods, Repsol has developed emergency kits in Peru.
AutoGas is the most widely-used alternative fuel in the world, used in over 21 million vehicles. This fuel is more economical and helps to preserve air quality in cities.
Although its penetration of the Spanish market is still limited, the industry estimates that in 2017 more than 200,000 vehicles powered by AutoGas will be put into circulation.
At Repsol we are working on continuous improvement to LPG identifying opportunities and analysing needs. Thus, the implementation of these actions allows us to improve the competitiveness of our business, increasing its efficiency.
At Repsol we help our customers to choose, implement and maintain the best solution for their needs, with the goal of achieving the best energy efficiency and optimising economic costs.
Through Repsol's Energy Developments we offer a series of solutions, such as:
C/ Méndez Álvaro, 44
28045, Madrid (Spain)
Telephone: (34) 91 75 38 100 / (34) 91 75 38 000
Fax: (34) 91 314 28 21 / (34) 91 348 94 94


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Kittens, that is.
Somewhere around here, there is a Mama Cat who abandoned her kittens after Bella (Rob's dog) discovered them and my compassionate grandchildren and DIL moved them up to the barn loft.
Since Mama had given them up, Krystal and Daniel undertook their care, bringing them to their home until they could eat on their own when they returned them to the barn loft. When they are bigger and able to defend themselves against Bella, the loft door will be opened and they will wander at will - hopefully eating more than their share of rodents. For now, Krystal cares for them every few days, making sure they have food and water.
Not too much food, though.......they can start on the mice in the loft.
They have names, as well......Romulus, Remus, and Octavia......Good, strong Roman names.
I wonder where all those bikes came from?
Maybe we should get rid of them.
My barn seems to spawn weird collections of things.
Just saying'.
Thursday, July 26, 2012
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Whats up. I am thinking about leveling my 07chevy 2500hd. Would I be able to do it myself. I have googled it and found some leveling keys. Is there anything that I need to look for. Is it a job that I can do in my drive way. Is there anything that i need to know or look for. Thanks
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Welcome to the Club! Unfortunately, I am not familiar with how the torsion key lift/level works, but here is link to a thread that should get you started in answering this and many other questions. If you cannot find what you are looking for on this thread, scroll to the bottom and you will see on the left hand side some other similar threads that will have additional information.
Mike (Denver, CO) - 2008 Sierra 1500 Z71 SLE 5.3L 4WD
SUSPENSION: Rancho 4" Suspension Lift; Rancho RS9000XL Shocks; Rancho Skid Plates; Rancho MyRide Wireless Shock Controller;
TIRES: BFG All Terrain KO 315/70/17
DRIVE TRAIN: 4.56 Gears; Detroit TrueTrac Differential; True Cool 40k Transmission Cooler
PERFORMANCE: DiableSport Predator Tuner; Custom Tuned by Diablew; Magnaflow Exhaust; AFE Cold Air Intake
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Welcome to the club. You will need a torson bar key compresion tool. You can rent these. DON'T buy cheap leveling keys. Also you will need longer shocks or shock extensions. Check out Offroadunlimited.com (ORU) 2500's leveling kits. If you truck has miles on it than now would be a good time to replace the front shocks with longer ones. ORU has a kit with longer Bilstein shocks and forged keys, a great kit.
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WEll you can if you have the right tools. you will need a tortion bar tool. and dont get a cheap one! its basically a giant really strong C clamp with little nipples that grabe the key and the crossmember properly so there is no slippidge.
just jack up the front end, take the tortion bolts all the way out, then put yoru tortion tool on and tighten itup until you can slide out the little plat that holds the tortion bolt. once its out then let out the tortion tool. (do it to the other side now too). then you will need a hammer and something to hit on the back of the key with. I used a solid pipe. before hammering heat the key up to try and losen it (becareful on the drivers side there is a gas line in the area). put your rod or tip of the air hammer in the hole on the back side of the trotion crossmember and just hit away until the bar slides forward. This may take a while.once it goes all the way forward the Key can drop out the bottom so watch your face! oncve it does slide in the new once and made sure you put the tortion bar back in correctly (if your nervous about it mark the bottom side of it so you know). Now use your tortion tool and push that key back up there and slide in the tortion bolt bridge. then let out the tortion tool and then tighten in your tortion bolt. make sure and do it evenly. and when making adjustments do it with the front end off the ground.
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Cultural Rot
My wife and I often joke that we are going to raise our children Amish so as to shield them from our depraved culture. We jest, but there's a sliver of truth in our jesting. And of course Donald has written a series of excellent posts here at TAC on the signs of our cultural decay.
It's not exactly a newsflash when a bunch of cranky bloggers at a website called the American Catholic bemoan our hedonistic culture. But when others of a less socially conservative bent join the fray you know that things may have reached a breaking point.
Ace of Spades is a conservative blog, though one that tends to a certain amount of, err, frivolity with regards to cultural matters. I don't think Ace deviates from most social conservatives on the core issues, but you wouldn't necessarily expect a rant like this one a site like his. But Ace completely lays into the singer Katy Perry and the awful message that she spreads to our youth.
Ace posts the lyrics to one of Perry's new songs: Continue reading
Political Correctness Trumps Expertise in Gulf Oil Spill Response
During his press statement last week, President Obama said that in dealing with the recent oil spill in the Gulf, he was "examining every recommendation, every idea that's out there, and making our best judgment as to whether these are the right steps to take, based on the best experts that we know of."
That, however, is not entirely true:
A St. Louis scientist who was among a select group picked by the Obama administration to pursue a solution to the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico has been removed from the group because of writings on his website, the U.S. Energy Department confirmed Wednesday.
Washington University physics professor Jonathan Katz was one of five top scientists chosen by the Department of Energy and attended meetings in Houston last week.
Though considered a leading scientist, Katz's website postings often touch on social issues. Some of those writings have stirred anger in the past and include postings defending homophobia and questioning the value of racial diversity efforts.
Looking into the Cloudy Ball
Tax day is a day when all Americans are reminded about the importance of politics and think about the importance of the political future so they can adjust their budgets accordingly. Most of the time in politics we have a reasonably good idea of what's going on: what the issues are going to be, who the favorites in the next election are, who are the main blocs, etc. Of course, there are always surprises and upsets.


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The philosophical ethics of Game Of Thrones
Andrew looks at the arguments surrounding the world view advocated by George R.R Martin's A Song Of Ice And Fire series...
George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire book series is one of those series that, as someone who has worked in a bookshop, seemed to saunter off the shelves. In the wake of the television series, small boys' mothers told me that their offspring loved the telly programme but were concerned that the books might be a bit beyond them. Said offspring then explained to me their favourite bit was the part where the horsey's SPOILER got SPOILERED with a big thrusting SPOILER.
(This article contains spoilers).
Enthusiasm for equine decapitation aside, Game of Thrones (the TV version) brought an already popular book series to an even larger audience. This is a good thing. Quite often when novels are this popular they are described as stepping stones towards bigger and better things (this is the most positive spin many can put on Twilight: 'Well, now they're reading that, they might end up reading something good'). A Song of Ice and Fire is considered to be one of the bigger and better things.
When the discussion about sexism in Game of Thrones was reaching its peak, I noticed a trend in post-article commentary threads where a number of posts seemed to be denigrating the series for advocating the ethical theories of Thomas Hobbes. Sadly, what this ultimately means is that George R. R. Martin is inculcating a deep-rooted adherence to such morals in our younglings.
I know. It's devastating isn't it?
Let's assume, for a second, that we're all Hobbes novices. Thomas Hobbes is an English philosopher who is probably most famous for his phrase "...and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short." (Leviathan, 1651, not to be confused with the excellent 2000 AD comic of the same name [though that's your next holiday reading sorted]). Often, his ideas get misrepresented as advocating brutish and short lives. Instead, Hobbes believes this to be an accurate portrayal of mankind's nature, which is why people adhere to social contracts (ceding some rights in return for protection from a governing body) in order to avoid a crippling struggle.
Obviously no-one wants their children growing up to believe in the writings of a seventeenth century philosopher. That would be dreadful. Adults are probably immune due to their great intelligence (although Hobbesian social contracts do sound a little bit like a synopsis of the small print on wonga.com). It's also been one of the consistent trends of fashion that absolutely no-one ever announces things like: 'Well, I'm going to strictly adhere to Hegelian ethics. You can stuff Adam Smith up your arse.'
Ethical Philosophical theories do not hold sway over a great many of the populace. This is because, when it comes philosophers constructing and analysing them, practical application is of secondary concern. Like modern art or Noel Fielding's Luxury Comedy, Ethical Theory is largely abstract, self-congratulatory, and entertaining to a few. Attacking a book/television series with reference to a specific ethical theory seems like a niche approach to castigation, especially when it could be argued that A Song of Ice and Fire reflects the work of Nazi-influencing Frederick Nietszche instead. Small children watching the TV adaptation have so far not picked up on any ideals of Master Race supremacy, being more concerned with the *Neighs* *Splats* *Dies* sections.
Until a book becomes moving pictures, any moral issue with it doesn't seem to reach national press levels, because it shows these contentious issues to a wider audience. The 'Show, don't tell' rule is especially pertinent when it comes to immoral acts. If you show the act, but don't tell anyone what to think about it, the fact that an author or film-maker hasn't clanged down a big sign saying 'And this is bad' is tantamount to advocation. There's a strange, momentum-gaining hysteria that wreaks havoc with reasoned arguments.
For example; when confronted with something morally repugnant, some people automatically use the word 'glamourise'. Trainspotting is another book accused of glamourising dubious behaviour. It's one of the least glamourous books ever written. The transition to moving pictures seems to exacerbate this phenomenom, as if having a cool soundtrack is going to persuade people to take heroin over the tenuous negative of a dead baby crawling across the ceiling.
Irvine Welsh uses multiple narrators in Trainspotting. George R. R. Martin's use of multiple third person point-of-view narratives isn't being used to make the reader agree with something, for example, a Lannister does, but to make them understand why they do it. His main characters are nobles and associates, not everyday folk. If there were Wombles in Westeros they would have to cope with a metric fucktonne of stuff left behind, assuming they hadn't been desecrated and burned first. The notion that, without protection from the Iron Throne, the land falls into an every-man-for-himself struggle does echo the ideas laid down in Leviathan.
If you disagree with Leviathan then obviously this means it is advocating a flawed code of ethics. Anarchists could possibly be annoyed at the perceived advocating of the social contract, but really, if they're trying to persuade people to live outside of a political system, A Song of Ice and Fire is not their most pressing problem. There are, ethically, worse crimes than saying some sort of governing body prevents chaos.
Advocating a philosophical theory is not something that is going to drastically alter many people's lives. The Bible has both immoral and moral passages according to contemporary secular thought (this idea existed before Alain de Botton smugged it around like a cloud of raw guff). It doesn't mean that the book itself is an inherently immoral book (and, for those who defend aspects of Game of Thrones due to its medieval setting, can't the worst passages of The Bible be defended based on the time it was written in?) The difference is, of course, that there aren't two billion people adhering to a Hobbesian worldview because they've read the books of George R.R. Martin.
From a purely technical point-of-view, a subtext is good. From a moral point-of-view, it depends on what that subtext is. A Song of Ice and Fire might very well deliberately echo Leviathan. Let's not kid ourselves that this could hugely influence people in a negative way. Twilight plays up its fairy tale rapist aspect as romantic wish-fulfilment (like Todd Akin had decided to make a Snow White movie). It seems intuitively a more damaging a message to convey. You get national campaigns to raise awareness of domestic abuse, but nothing about 'One in four people have been affected by the writings of David Hume'. People don't complain about the Wittgenstein jokes in Family Guy.
The fact that a lot of intelligent people like Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey suggests that subtext isn't a huge influence on most people's reading habits. What's going to sound better: 'Hey, there's this really romantic book where this girl falls in love with a vampire' or 'It's about how women should abandon all their ambitions and enslave themselves into a child-bearing marriage after some unbelievably violent sex'?
Most people don't care about subtext. If they did, we'd have to have separate charts for 'Reading for Enjoyment' and 'Reading it to Check it was Definitely as Awful as I Thought It Would Be'. If I'm going into a book looking for subtextual meaning, I'd rather pick up on references to ethical theories than sexually regressive insinuations. Because there definitely aren't any of them in Game of Thrones.
In conclusion, my advice to aspiring writers who value success over art would be this: Your subtext can be as clever or as repulsive as you want, because most people just want to be entertained.
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Interesting article, but felt slightly uncomfortable with "and, for those who defend aspects of Game of Thrones due to its medieval setting, can't the worst passages of The Bible be defended based on the time it was written in?"
They can, but that's missing an important point. If someone in GoT decries homosexuality or insists the only role for women is in service of a husband, it's unlikely anyone reading will take that as the literal truth and live their lives by it. When the worst aspects of the Bible are highlighted, it's not just to prevent sensibilities from being offended.
Is the philosophy of the series intentional though?
To me it seems as though with most stories, as with life, any particular philosophical bent is normally bolted on in hindsight.
As you say most people don't choose a philosophy and live by it, they make their choices and then philosophers come along and try to make sense of it and think through the implications.
That Martin has a clear vision for how his written world works is admirable but from what I understand, the way he's written the story (and the reason why it's taken so long for each book to arrive in recent times) is because he is solely concerned with where his characters take him but I've not seen that there is any intentional subtext other than from those who overthink the story.
If any message can be gleaned from these books it's that people totally fail to think in the long term other than for the self-interest of a privileged few who are willing to manipulate the masses in order to gain wealth and power for themselves. Something that still seems to be going on today.
I agree, though I would add that this literal truth is enforced by the Church. The bible is merely a collection of stories which base themselves in history, tales which have a didactic purpuse, simalar to fairy tales. The church is to blamefor the literalisation of these tales. The bible is just a story book.
It should be Friedrich Nietzsche, not Frederick.
The questions about ethics and some subtexts are clearly itentional. For example Ned Stark was clearly written as example of character who
always follows the law and does his duty (for me he represents
Kantian understanding of moral law). Should we act according to law even if we don't like it? What is just? What is evil? How evil is evil? Is doing evil things sometimes justified? Should we do our duty even if it's against our nature? etc.
I could even make an argument that the whole series is about ethics.
This is a tricky one. Its true that as the feudal society in the books breaks down, only anarchy is left. So GRRM might be a supporter of the divine right of kings. On the other hand, the character and mouthpiece of Sandor Clegane is alway happy to lambast the ruling lords and knights as hypocrites. And of course, the most honourable character of Ned refuses to do anything but the right thing, and is promptly killed for his trouble. Have to think about this...
Martins work no doubt shows the influence of Hobbes but this isn't the same as endorsing him. Many philosophers are influenced by each other and go the opposite direction. I think Martin is endorsing the idea that under certain circumstances, ANY form of government can be preferable to brutal, merciless civil war. A lot of this influence just comes from the simple fact that Martin and Hobbes were influenced by similar historical periods and both recognize how horrible civil war is.
One thing that is often missed is that to some degree, Martin is endorsing the moral views of Ned Stark. People think Martin is making him out to be stupid, and he is on a practical level, but he also shows the folly of the more cynical worldview, and how it isn't sustainable for a society. Basically what is needed is for people in general to be more like Ned Stark, because if everyone acts like the Lannisters it results in nothing more than a constant brutal, and deadly competition that ultimately helps no one.
"The fact that a lot of intelligent people like Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey suggests that subtext isn't a huge influence on most people's reading habits."
No. It merely suggests that what these books have to offer has nothing to do with intelligence.
Anyway, GoT has much more to tell us about our society, the one in which it was written, than it has about Leviathan, or the world in which that was written. Just as 24 and other noughties hits told us a lot about the neocon world view. Future historians (assuming "civilisation" continues) will understand what we were really like from these, whatever pompous postures we and our political leaders adopt for public consumption.
This is along the lines I was thinking. As you mention, you do feel that Martin is Ned Stark as he makes you feel every moment of injustice and dishonour that happens and you feel the same righteous anger and sense of powerlessness that Stark felt as these stupid, selfish idiots with power screw things up for everyone else.
You think if you act with honour and fairness that people would say 'Yeah, you know what, we should all put aside our selfishness and personal ambitions and do what's best for everybody' unfortunately you just become what's known as a 'useful idiot' for those who are greedy for more of what they already have. The story is all about the weakness and fallibility of human nature to to always take the easier option of self-indulgence rather than one of self-control, but also a cautionary tale for those who do want to make the world a better place.
TBH though, this story functions on so many levels and is written so honestly that you can read anything into it.
Of course it has a Hobbesian subtext. So does almost every Sci-Fi or Fantasy story that does any world building. Lets face it, Rousseau's take on human nature (that we are basically good) doesn't make for exciting stories where the heroes must overcome the corrupt nature of humanity.
Who are these mothers that are letting their "young boys" watch Game of Thrones? Theres far too much nudity for me to allow my 12 year old to watch it and my 16 year old would be too uncomfortable watching with me in the room.
And if my wife knew that either of them had seen the show, she'd have a fit.
The show is amazing. Probably the best thing on television currently.
But its not appropriate for anyone who needs their mommy to drive them to the bookstore.


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It's been said that 'kids say the darndest things,' and members of the Washington State men's basketball team discovered just that.
Former WSU men's basketball student-athletes, Aron Baynes and Brock Motum, were selected to the Airbnb Australian Boomers Team that will compete in the 2014 FIBA Basketball World Cup in Spain.
Former Washington State men's basketball student-athletes Brock Motum and D.J. Shelton competed with the Utah Jazz and Atlanta Hawks, respectively, in the 2014 NBA Summer League at Las Vegas.
The Cougars will face UC Santa Barbara in the opening round Thanksgiving Day.
WSU's Pac-12 schedule will be finalized in late August.
The Washington State men's basketball team will take on Hawaii in the return of the Cougar Hardwood Classic, Saturday, Dec. 13 at Seattle's KeyArena, Idol Sports and Entertainment announced Tuesday.
Washington State University basketball coaches have responded to the Cold Water Challenge as part of the #Chillin4Charity campaign.
Nearly 100 boys and girls between the ages of six and 14 attended the Washington State University Men's Basketball Day Camp on the Pullman campus, which began June 16 and wrapped up, June 19.
Nearly 100 boys and girls between the ages of six and 14 were on hand for Washington State University men's basketball first-year head coach, Ernie Kent's, inaugural Day Camp on the Pullman Campus.
Former WSU men's basketball standout Aron Baynes won an NBA Championship as the San Antonio Spurs defeated the Miami Heat, 104-87, Sunday, to take the best-of-series, four games to one.
The registration deadline for Washington State University men's basketball 2014 Day Camp has been extended and parents can now register their kids for the camp until Friday, June 13 at noon.
Scott Thom has been named Washington State University men's basketball strength and conditioning coach, head basketball coach Ernie Kent announced Wednesday.


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Back in March 2014, I wrote a small feature on Mission Belt Co., a company that makes specially designed hole-less belts. After being enthralled with the brand, I finally got one!
Not only does Mission Belt Co. provide cool, unique belts, they also use $1 from every belt sold to provide micro-lending through Kiva and help fight global hunger.
Recently, Mission Belt Co. just launched a few new summer inspired belts in bold colors and I had to get my hands on the purple one:
One of the best-selling features of their belts, is that no piece has any holes. None! So if you're in between sizes or feeling a little thinner after months of dedicated work outs then you just ratchet up the belt a bit. There are no unsightly holes anywhere.
While I personally really dig my belt I have to say that the ratcheting sound definitely took some getting used to. Admittedly, I was a little self-conscious my first couple of times using a public bathroom (which tend to be eerily quiet) because the sound is kind of unexpected. Not loud, per se, but definitely unexpected.
If you're like me, and Seeley Booth, then embracing this little style piece of rebellion in your otherwise basic or classic wardrobe, you probably won't be disappointed. Belts are available in the Mission Belt Co. online store and range from about $26 to $40 each.
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Filing Corporate Taxes Using Form 1120
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We shall not forget
Today we honor the memory of a tragic event that changed America forever. Ten years ago, terrorists hijacked four passenger jets, American Airlines Flight 11, United Airlines Flight 175, American Airlines Flight 77 and United Airlines Flight 93, crashing them into the World Trade Center towers, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania, killing almost 3,000 people. The incident had a dramatic impact on the lives of all Americans, in one form or another.
Sentenced to life
WEATHERFORD — A 25-year-old Saginaw man who pleaded guilty to aggravated sexual assault of a child and online solicitation of a child was given prison sentences of life and 20 years in a punishment trial that concluded late Wednesday in district court in Weatherford.
County fires contained
The Parker County Fire Marshal's mobile command unit returned to Parker County from the Possum Kingdom fire Tuesday, only to be serviced and turn around in response to another blaze.
Wreck becomes triple fatality
Three people lost their lives Wednesday night in a fiery tragedy on Zion Hill Road.
Two teens were pronounced dead shortly after 7:15 p.m. at the scene of a head-on collision in the 3800 block of Zion Hill Road, and a man flown by air ambulance from the scene died at Parkland Hospital hours later.
Wreck fatal
A head-on collision on Zion Hill Road north of Adair Lane around 7:15 p.m. Wednesday, started a fire and appeared to result in at least one fatality.
A witness said an orange car was passing vehicles while traveling northbound on Zion Hill Road when it appeared to collide head-on with a southbound white pickup truck.
Flames take aim on lake properties again
PALO PINTO COUNTY — A fire, which eyewitnesses said started sometime between noon and 1 p.m. Tuesday, seemed to take little time to grow into a massive, uncontrollable blaze that resulted in emergency evacuation of The Cliffs Resort.
Getting tapped in
Long awaited improvements to the City of Aledo's water system took a step forward last week when council members voted to award a construction bid for lines that may be carrying Fort Worth water to Aledo residents as early as next summer.
Too little, too late?
Judge Mark Riley's fiscal year 2011-12 proposed county budget was filed in the clerk's office July 29, three days ahead of the Aug. 1 deadline, according to County Spokesman Joel Kertok. It was posted online Aug. 2.
Business owners speak out
Eight months of work by city staff and the historic preservation commission to allow for the creation of non-voluntary historic overlays was denied by the planning and zoning board this week.
Hunted down
Police confirmed three suspects were taken into custody following an early morning robbery at Walgreens on South Main and a several-hour manhunt off of Clear Lake Road.
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Mr. Mark Lahner, age 55, husband of Sheila, of Corbin, passed away on Sunday, Feb. 10, 2013, at Baptist Health Corbin.
Mark entered into this life on Aug. 20, 1957, in Warren, Ohio, the son of Walter and Juanita Naylor Lahner, both of whom preceded him in death. He was united in marriage to Sheila Scott on April 20, 1989, and they shared a wonderful life together. Mark was a truck driver and will be remembered for his love of working on his land and home and for the love he had for his family.
Mark will be lovingly remembered by his wife, Sheila Lahner, of Corbin; two sons, Jamey Bowman (Melissa), of Harlan, and Mark Bowman (Jeanne), of London; a daughter, DeAnndra Storm (Justin), of Corbin; 11 grandchildren, Megan Eversole, Sierra Bowman, Desiree Bowman, Travis Stamper, Kristen Bowman, Gavin Bowman, Carlee Bowman, Jacob Bowman, Aaron Bowman, Caylee Bowman and Braxton Storm; two great-grandchildren, Mackenzie and Zoie Eversole; a brother, Larry Lahner (Shirley), of Pierpont, Ohio; four sisters, Virginia Weagraff (Bill), of Ashtabula, Ohio, Juanita Lahner, of Daytona Beach, Fla., Daryl Yutze (Alton), of Orwell, Ohio, and Linda Stohler (Al), of Daytona Beach, Fla.; and a host of friends and neighbors.
He is preceded in death by his parents, Walter and Juanita Naylor Lahner, and a sister, Sandy Hurley.
Funeral services will be conducted on Wednesday, Feb. 13, 2013, at 2 p.m. at the Corbin Funeral Home with Pastor Matt Church officiating. Interment will follow in the Lahner Family Cemetery.
The family will receive friends on Wednesday, Feb. 13, 2013, from 1-2 p.m. at the Corbin Funeral Home.
Condolences can be sent at www.corbinfh.com. Arrangements have been entrusted to the Corbin Funeral Home.


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Chemistry 2
is this for ashworth??
What weights of NaH2PO4 and NaHPO4 would be required to prepare a buffer solution of pH 7.45 that has an ionic strength of 0.1? pKa2=7.12 , mwt NaH2Po4=120g/mol NaHPO4=142 g/mol using the henderson-hasselbalch equation i got that the ratio of the concentration of NaH2PO4 to Na...
How has psychology been impacted by the philosophical and religious theories of child rearing?
represent the number 24 by making equal groups (write the multiplication and addition sentence for each)
A grocery store wants to make a mixture of nuts consisting of cashews and pecans. The cashews sell for $4 per pound while the pecans sell for $10 a pound. How many pounds of each nut must be mixed to produce a 6 pound mixture that sells for $8 per pound.
idnt f.cking know!!
I had to find dy/dx or y' same difference. I just want to make sure i am doing it right because i have a hard time with trig functions
I believe PsyDAG's answer is wrong.
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Gold Plus Extended Warranty -- worth it?
algetcha Posts: 1Excellent coverage on everything but maintenance. Funny how people think a service contract should cover their maintenance - that's not what they're for. Negotiate a fair price - offer a hundred over cost. All Subaru Added Security contracts dealer cost = 1/2 MSRP. How's that for your new direction ?
if you didn't purchase the warranty from Joe Gingras, do you mind me askingwhere you bought? I want the GoldWarranty, 7year/100k/0 deductible warranty.
Thanksfor any help!
ps i guess some places tack on doc prep/taxes/etc. which ultimately brings the price up? Doesn't seem Joe or Mastria was going to do that?
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I did buy my warranty from Joe Gingras at Roto Subaru in Illinois. I had pursued 4 or 5 different quotes for the 5/100,000 $50 deductible, and Joe and Don were the most personable people that I dealt with. You can go back to post# 79 if you want to see my details.
Mine was $922 out the door. No tax, no doc fees, etc.
Good luck!
Hahah; sorry! Subaru Bucks are a "rewards" program through a Chase Mastercard. It provides 3% of all purchases toward a $100 rewards certificate. On the billing period in which the accumulated 3% exceeds $100, a certificate is mailed with the billing statement. A single account can accumulate up to $500 per year (the accumulation is frozen at that point until the billing period after the starting month). The certificates are currently good for 48 months after their issue date.
They can be used toward the purchase of a new Subaru vehicle, Subaru parts or accessories, labor on a Subaru vehicle, or an extended warranty. They are good in any continental US state (including Alaska).
How does this sound?
$1301 7yr 100k Gold Warranty $0 deductible (Joe/Roto)
No doc or tax fees extra. IF I want 10 payment plan there is a $79 surcharge (ie $1301 plus $79)
Seems good?
Don/Mastria hasn't returned my calls yet from this morning...Joe/Roto was right on it. Perhaps prices have gone up in last 6 months because it seems that last I checked the prices were aout $150 less 6 months ago? Does that seem right?
I don't know for sure. To me, the price quoted by Roto sounds great. That said, the MSRP of the warranties varies by model and model year. Mine was for a 2010 Forester X Premium.
The options presented to you by Roto were the exact same as those presented to me when I worked with Mastria last year (e.g., ten payments with a finance/service charge of $79).
After all the research I put into buying a new car (2013 Legacy), I hadn't prepared for the extended warranties. I ended up getting the 6/60 Added Security Plan w/ $50 deductible and the 2/24 Maintenance Plan for a combined $1,860. We are low mileage (5-7k/yr) mostly city drivers. The dealer said their current cost for the 7,500, 15,000, and 22,500 mile service totals about $880, so the Security Plan was an additional ~$1,000 (and the cost of paying up front). There were some additional goodies, like oil changes for life (well, 25 changes, which for us will be 25 yrs...).
Another issue is I was told that the deductible only kicks in after year 3. I assume this is because the first 3 years are under the standard warranty, but I was also told that the Added Security Plan covers more during years 2 and 3 than the basic plan, so it looks like there could be a deductible during those years.
Looks like I have 90 days to cancel. I like the peace of mind, but feel like I got rolled when I was not prepared to discuss the warranties. Thoughts?
From that aspect, I guess it is okay, but you also PREPAID for that maintenance, so saying those cost $880 out of pocket combined should not equate to paying that much up front. I'd say valuing that at more like $600 is more reasonable.
I don't think you were "rolled," but the dealer is definitely making good money on this deal. Like you said, though, peace of mind counts for a lot.
On a 6/60 warranty, what you get is the extra roadside assistance, some small benefits on the extended that are more limited within the standard bumper-to-bumper (read the warranty details for the details!) - yes, these are subject to the deductible - and one year added warranty on the drivetrain components.
What I would do is call Rota Subaru, find out what they'd sell a 6/60 with $50 deductible for, add $600 to it, and see where that puts you as compared to what you paid. If you're over significantly, I'd talk to the selling dealer about converting the plan to a zero deductible or threaten to cancel and buy elsewhere.
You might have prepaid all that maintenance, but you could also pocket that money now and make better use of it.


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Sex offender can't worship due to state law - is this constitutional?
James Nichols said he was flabbergasted when a Chatham County sheriff's deputy arrested him in March for a simple weekly activity -- going to church.
Nichols, 31, had served six years in prison for indecent liberties with a teenage girl and attempted second-degree rape. He was released last September and started attending Moncure Baptist Church. He met with the pastor, disclosed his crimes and often sat in the front row for worship.
But after the Chatham Sheriff's Office investigated an alleged sexual assault by another person in the church parking lot in March, Nichols was arrested because he was attending the church, which has a child-care facility on its premises.
"Anyone in this world has a right to practice their religion, and whether they've made any mistake in their life, they should have the right," Nichols said.
But a state law that took effect in December forbids registered sex offenders from being within 300 feet of a school, playground, day care or children's museum.
"The law we passed doesn't let them go to church, because there are nurseries in churches," said state Rep. Verla Insko, D-Chapel Hill, the only legislator in the House and Senate to oppose the law.
Nichols, with the help of the American Civil Liberties Union, is challenging the law in Chatham County. A coalition of social workers and psychologists who treat sex abusers have been fighting it in the General Assembly. Some think churches should play a key role in rehabilitating offenders.
Proponents, though, want to keep sexual offenders away from children at all costs, even after they've finished their prison time.
'Lost their rights'
"As far as I'm concerned, they've lost all their rights -- to go to church ... to go to McDonald's to get a cheeseburger if they've got the slides," said state Sen. David Hoyle, the Gastonia Democrat who sponsored the law. "They have made that choice. They have imposed that on themselves. I didn't."
Nichols' lawyer, Glenn Gerding, calls the law unconstitutional because it infringes on his client's freedom to exercise religion. He said the law applies even if an offender is merely sitting on a pew and no children are in the building.
Katy Parker, North Carolina legal counsel for the ACLU, said her agency has taken about 50 phone calls from pastors and registered sex offenders since the law took effect. She said law enforcement officials have told pastors they can't allow sex offenders to attend church. She also has heard of offenders being arrested for exercising at a YMCA.
Nichols appears to be one of the few offenders arrested for being on church grounds, though there clearly are other offenders attending worship. Eric Sipe, a sex-abuse therapist in Catawba County, said sheriff's departments vary in how they enforce the law.
Nichols recently moved to Sanford, where he started attending Try Jesus Ministries. The church has children's programs, but Nichols said law officers are more understanding. Last weekend, he went with fellow church members on a retreat to Tennessee.
"I go to church anytime I get a chance," said Nichols. "I believe in it. It helps me keep my mind on track. It helps me be a better person not just to myself but to someone else."
Hoyle, the law sponsor, said he doesn't have a problem if pedophiles go to church, as long as there aren't children there.
"It's a recipe for them to find victims," he said. "Find another church that they don't have a nursery. I'm sure there are a lot of churches that don't have nurseries."
Gerding, Nichols' lawyer, argues that churches are precisely where offenders need to be. "Churches are often the last hope for many sex offenders who need the stability and guidance a church pastor and church family can provide," Gerding wrote in his motion.
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"It's a great life. You risk your skin catching killers and the juries turn them loose so they can come back and shoot at you again. If your honest , your poor your whole life. And , In the end , you wind up dying all alone on some dirty street. For what? For nothing. For a tin star."
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I'm totally okay with it. I don't even consider it a right for him when it violates this particular statue. I consider it a forfeited right as a consequence of his past criminal history akin to a violent felon losing his/her right to possess a gun or vote. The good of the children should outweigh his individual rights on this issue.SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM-Ex-Sheriff Martin Howe to Will Kane in "High Noon"
"It's a great life. You risk your skin catching killers and the juries turn them loose so they can come back and shoot at you again. If your honest , your poor your whole life. And , In the end , you wind up dying all alone on some dirty street. For what? For nothing. For a tin star."
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His rights have been taken from him within the scope of due process. It is not like he is being singled out as an innocent individual. A jury of his peers did see fit to convict him. HIS choices and that conviction have consequences.
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I'm good with the law. Keep your peepee where it belongs and watch all the televangelists you want in your own perverted kingdom!I'm not ruining your life, you are, and I'm just going to write a short story about it.
If he wants a burger, he should try Wendy's. No playgrounds at any I've ever seen, and a minor on the sign. I'm sure he'd be thrilled.
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He does not have to attend church to worship, so his rights are not being violated. So even apart from the reason he cannot attend a church, there's no problem with the law. The law doesn't let him worship in the way he chooses, but he gave up that when he was convicted of such heinous acts. Sorry about his luck. Oh wait........I'm NOT sorry. F*#@ him!CHIRP! CHIRP!
I gotta agree with IndianaFuzz and you don't have to go to church to pray.
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I know how important church is to a lot of people, however, I don't think he realizes his alternatives. Every church I have been to has pastors willing to make house calls for those who can't make it out. Most churchs record/videotape services. There are plenty of other options.He who has the money, signs the cheques.
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Not every church has a daycare or preschool. Go somewhere else.
In large cities, there are Gay churches... They may not have a daycare
He still has the freedom to worship... He just can't go near a daycare. Those aren't mutually exclusive.
He should either watch whoever replaced Rev Tilton on TV and worship at home, or find a church without a daycare.
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When he was released from prison he knew what the restrictions were. He chose to ignore them and now he cries that his "rights" are being violated? What about the child he violated!!!
I have to agree that if he wants to go to church he should go to one that doesn't have daycare or go to services that are before or after daycare hours.
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Well, I looked, thought even with the story as written there might be an outside chance this is of those Romeo and Juliet cases where there's something to discuss. News under reported, guy has more hits than the Jackson 5, f*** him and the attorney he rode in on.
What about cases where it's two teenagers in a long term relationship (the Romeo & Juliet scenario) and the guy is convicted and has to register as a sex offender. Should he no longer be allowed to go to church with his family because they have a daycare or school?
www.formerlyacivilattorneynowi narobe.com {don't even try to go there, please}I'm not ruining your life, you are, and I'm just going to write a short story about it.
i like what you did here Term
here the law says 16 is the age of consent. under 16, if there is over a four year difference its 2nd degree rape. so lets say we have an 18 year old guy and a 14 year old girl with birthdays one day apart (hes born 8/18/91, shes born 8/19/95 so they are 4 years and 1 day apart). they are in the same high school, hes a senior, shes a freshman, not uncommon (im willing to bet a lot of us dated freshman when we were seniors). they are both athletes, he plays soccer, she plays (girls) soccer but is athletically talented and is on the varsity squad so their paths cross a lot. they both have an elective class together...lets say home ec, or music, or some shit like that. they realize they have a lot in common and start dating. mom/dad of the girl go the police and have him charged. they continue to date anyway, and eventually get married, have children, and lead a normal life together. should he be a registered sex offender with all the restrictions placed on him that a stereotypical child molester gets. i dont think so. i think you have to look at these things on a case by case basis. blanket laws and restrictions are not always the best way to go about things.
but as far as the turd in the original scenario goes...fuck him. get the bible on tape bitchin the warriors code there's no surrender, though his body says stop, his spirit cries...NEVER. deep in our souls, a quiet ember, knows its you against you, its the paradox that drives us all. its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack, its the passion that kills, and victory is yours alone.
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Here's the problem with blanket or zero tolerance laws. You run in to the Romeo & Juliet scenarios and there's no discretion for judges to make calls based on the individual case. So you end up with a 16 year old who is a sex offender for life and can't go to church with his family because the church has a daycare and he is a threat to the little kids??? These kinds of laws are bullshit and they ruin peoples lives!
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Monday, February 21, 2011
Texas to pass guns on campus
From the Huffington post article...
Texas has become a prime battleground for the issue because of its gun culture and its size, with 38 public universities and more than 500,000 students. It would become the second state, following Utah, to pass such a broad-based law. Colorado gives colleges the option and several have allowed handguns.
Supporters of the legislation argue that gun violence on campuses, such as the mass shootings at Virginia Tech in 2007 and Northern Illinois in 2008, show that the best defense against a gunman is students who can shoot back.
"It's strictly a matter of self-defense," said state Sen. Jeff Wentworth, R-San Antonio. "I don't ever want to see repeated on a Texas college campus what happened at Virginia Tech, where some deranged, suicidal madman goes into a building and is able to pick off totally defenseless kids like sitting ducks."
Until the Virginia Tech incident, the worst college shooting in U.S. history occurred at the University of Texas, when sniper Charles Whitman went to the top of the administration tower in 1966 and killed 16 people and wounded dozens. Last September, a University of Texas student fired several shots from an assault rifle before killing himself.
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10 comments:
- AnonymousFebruary 21, 2011 at 7:07 PM
I trained police force should take care of these issues, not vigilantes.ReplyDelete
Why is someone who get a carry permit and carries a vigilante? So if you care about your own defense, you are a vigilante? Grow up. The police have no legal requirement to protect you. Plus, the police can't stay with you 24/7. You alone are responsible for your own safety. Stop punishing those of us who understand this fact and do something about it because you "feel" unsafe when a law abiding citizen is next to you with a firearm.ReplyDelete
- Captain BringdownFebruary 22, 2011 at 12:43 PM
The police DO have a legal requirement to protect you. What I fear is the very distinct and experienced reality of friendly fire. Being a combat veteran I have a full appreciation of the concept of "line of fire". Do you? Untrained and inexperienced carriers have NO business opening fire in my "A O" in any circumstance. Firing at a harmless target is no substitute for live fire training. Most, if not almost all carry permit holders have inadequate training in my humble opinion.
Bringdown, where do you get that police are required to protect people?ReplyDelete
2005, US Supreme Court - reported in the NY Times (is that credible enough for you?)
"a Colorado town, Castle Rock, for the failure of the police to respond to a woman's pleas for help after her estranged husband violated a protective order by kidnapping their three young daughters, whom he eventually killed."
Maybe the woman now carries a handgun, I don't know but a wise man learns from other peoples mistakes.
Here is another one straight from our nations capitol:
"By a 4-3 decision the court decided that Warren was not entitled to remedy at the bar despite the demonstrable abuse and ineptitude on the part of the police."
And second thought -ReplyDelete
Captain, how many police officers have what you call live fire training, and what number of carry permit holders have live fire training?
Something tells me that a good percentage of permit holders are also combat veterans. They have probably seen more shooting around real humans than the number of police there are. Facts are that there are a quarter million HCP in Tennessee, numerically they outnumber cops.
- Eric HolcombeFebruary 23, 2011 at 2:09 PM
Capt. Bringdown aligns himself(?) with the usual tact taken by law enforcement in these matters. That is, pit themselves against the law-abiding, non-felon citizens who are willing to endure the infringement of their 2nd Amendment right and pay for a carry "permit" from the state. I don't understand why they don't want help from the good guys, won't admit they cannot possibly guarantee to protect you from the bad guys, expect the good people they just insulted to continue funding their existence, etc.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousFebruary 24, 2011 at 8:43 PM
Actually the police do not have a legal requirement to protect you. So says the United States Supreme Court in Castle Rock v Gonzalez and Warren v District of Columbia among others.ReplyDelete
You as an individual however do have a responsibility to protect you--and if you are unwilling to defend yourself no one else should in my opinion.
Allowing students to carry firearms into Post Secondary institutions and onto post secondary campuses, and technology schools only makes sense--your rights should not end at the entrance to a college or university. I would love to see Tennessee allow campus carry as well as Constitutional carry--along the same lines of an Alaska or Arizona type carry law where no permit is required to carry a handgun.
- AnonymousFebruary 24, 2011 at 9:03 PM
Captain--you speak of your A O--your "area of operations"--you're not in the military Captain are you? You speak of "untrained" people--ask those 32 people who died at Virginia Tech whether they would have liked to have had the opportunity to defend themselves against a violent offender who will NOT and as we all saw--DID NOT obey the laws...I would dare say they would and should have had the RIGHT to defend themselves--but instead they obeyed the rules, they followed the law, they did as they were told as good sheeple often do--and for that they made themselves easy targets for a man with no conscious, and they paid with their lives--lives which ended all too soon, while everyone held their breath waiting on "trained" people like you to come riding to the rescue like the 1st Infantry Div....and while your "trained" people were gearing up--how many died needlessly?ReplyDelete
Generally by the time the police show up it is after the fact, when all is said and done--and the people should have the opportunity to defend themselves, even in YOUR "A/O" Capt...And personally speaking--if that is the price we pay to live in a free society where we don't have a police state where cops interpret the law as they see fit, and where the people have the RIGHT to both KEEP and BARE arms for their defense even in YOUR A/O--then I'm all for it, and it is a price I am willing to pay to live in a free society.
So Capt. how many of your "trained" people have live fire training? Do you have medics riding with you? How many hours a week do you personally spend at the range doing live fire? How about those under you--how many hours?
You see Capt., it isn't about what you want or don't want--it is about giving the people back their RIGHTS--and that includes the basic fundamental right to a fighting chance, even if you don't like it.
It's a reasonable example. If there is a gun man on campus and the police are responding and they see other students with their guns out, what are they to do? They say " Police! Put the gun down!" and then the citizen turns towards them with the gun out, what's going to happen. Now, the police will have to take down each citizen with a guy out just in case. They will have to arrest that person until it if found out that it was not them. This may take up time on catching the real shooter.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousFebruary 25, 2011 at 1:49 PM
the problem with your theory--is that it is exactly that--a theory. I have heard this same worthless argument time and time again. The police cannot protect you--that is obvious from the Virginia Tech massacre. Would you rather wait on them to do it--or would you rather have the chance to fight for your life against a shooter while the police are busy responding with their "plans"?
Here is the thing--if a shooter is on campus and you see a whole LOT of people with guns out pointing it at a single individual-that should give you at least SOME clue as to who the bad guy is...Come on, accept responsibility for your personal safety and quit depending on others to do it for you. Because I'm here to tell you--it isn't the job of the police to protect you--they have absolutely NO Constitutional or legal requirement to do so--so said the Supreme Court.
The second issue is--would you trust your safety to people who have absolutely no stake whatsoever in whether you go home at night? Something happens to a citizen--the police may very well show up--but it is a job for them and nothing more, they go from call to call to call. My personal safety means more to me than trusting it into the hands of people who have no stake whatsoever in whether I go home at night or not.
It is a natural human and God given right to be able to defend yourself against violent attack--unless of course you are a liberal, gun hating fanatic who thinks that only the police and the criminals should have guns.
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