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Word is popping up all over the internet and we too got our invite to a special BlackBerry event to be held on August 3rd in NYC. If all goes according to the rumors, we should be seeing a full blown announcement of the BlackBerry 9800 there although, AT&T nor RIM have specified in the invite what it may be. Time will tell of course but, the pieces are all fitting in nicely here. Who's ready to for the BlackBerry (Torch? Bold?) 9800 on AT&T?!
gregorylkelly Jul 27, 2010 at 4:27 pm
I have a Bold 9650 and I couldn't be any more excited for this!!! Bring on OS6!!!!
I just hope that Verizon will try and release OS6 to the Bold as soon as possible to compete with AT&T. If AT&T has OS6 but Verizon doesn't, people could leave for the Slider.
I am, goodbye BB9000
DevonB. Jul 27, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Anything to have you 9000!!!
Chairman Plow Jul 29, 2010 at 10:45 pm
I have a 9000, maybe we can work something out!
shv580 Jul 27, 2010 at 4:30 pm
ondersahin Jul 27, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Can't tell the same for AT&T :)
wvupika Jul 27, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Please tell me Sprint will get this phone soon!!!
sweetlittlehugs Jul 27, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Highly doubtful, this is a gsm phone
cheech73 Jul 28, 2010 at 1:57 am
wrong, rumor has it Sprint is getting the device, AT&T yes will get it first but they got first dibs exclusivity for a few months.
bb_forever Jul 28, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Sprint and VZW just launched the tour 9650s, which are 9700s in the 8900 form factor with bumped up memory. It'll be QUITE A LONG TIME before Sprint sees this phone. VZW won't get it because they have a Storm 3 in development and testing w/ OS6 as I type this. Why have two BB touchscreens? VZW won't. And the 9800 was delayed on launch because of Apple. BB didn't want to compete head to head with the iphone 4 launch, so they just delayed a couple of months.
mab4285 Aug 1, 2010 at 12:53 am
really?....the 9650 is in the Tour (9630) form factor...no where close to being an 8900....
gdawg1881 Aug 1, 2010 at 1:48 pm
your missing the point. businesses don't use touchscreen phones. corporate blackberrys are almost always qwerty keyboards!
verizon would carry 2 touch screen phones if one had a physical keyboard and the other didnt.
RIM doesnt have a touch screen phone for ATT, where verizon has had one for 2 years.
finally, people seem to miss the fact that these phones are expensive to develop. rim is holding off releasing new phones on verizon because they will soon be out dated. the slider can be sold anywhere in the world. if it was cdma, only verizon and sprint would be able to sell it.... with that said, soon rim will only have to make one type of phone for all carriers globally.
Nashstruck Jul 27, 2010 at 4:33 pm
kingprince Jul 27, 2010 at 4:33 pm
I would rather seen it on Verizon!
datta72 Jul 29, 2010 at 9:24 am
I'd rather see it on any company other than At&t, they're hands down the worst company in the USA
gdawg1881 Aug 1, 2010 at 1:49 pm
no t-mobile is. my dad just stopped using his t-mobile blackberry in the US because it was always going in and out of service even in metro areas.
NeenaBerry Aug 1, 2010 at 9:04 pm
U know I heard the same complaint. AT&T service is not that great. I wish T Mobile was releasing this 9800 on August 3rd.
Shad0w26 Jul 27, 2010 at 4:34 pm
During the end of the conference...
"We are proud to announce that Blackberry OS 6 will be available for download instantly after the conference for the Blackberry Tour and Blackberry Bold family."
Skeevecr Jul 27, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Most amusing, as if a carrier like at&t would give a damn about existing devices even if rim had os6 ready for them, which seems very unlikely since their priority will be to get it ready for new devices first before the old ones.
ffejie Jul 27, 2010 at 5:28 pm
What do you think this is, Apple? RIM has too many devices to worry about the devices they released yesterday.
JMDBERRY Jul 27, 2010 at 4:38 pm
I'm staying with T-Mo for the unlimited everything,...unlimited tethering!
Have Bold Will Travel~
Dragondima Jul 27, 2010 at 4:38 pm
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THIS IS!!!!!! PLEASE ANNOUNCE THE 9800!!!!!!!!! I can't wait for this.
gregorylkelly Jul 27, 2010 at 4:40 pm
I don't think there is any doubt about this. Its kinda like when Apple had the iPad announcement.
mab4285 Jul 27, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Same here....I'm moving back to T-Mobile and the 9700 to wait out the time until the 9800 is released on TMo...
abolds4397 Jul 27, 2010 at 9:18 pm
I'm with you on that, T-Mo all the way!!
jeffs99 Jul 28, 2010 at 9:37 am
including unlimited shoddy coverage
graffixnyc Aug 1, 2010 at 1:01 pm
I have TMO and love it. Plus their BB plan is the cheapest! I'm grandfathered and only pay 19.99 for unlimited blackberry BIS service. Even with what they charge now (I think it's 30 for unlimited BIS) it's still cheaper than the other carriers. I live in NYC and never have problem with their service. I also travel a lot and the only times I have "shoddy" service is when I'm in the middle of no where in east bumble f**k.. I really hope TMO will get this phone!
BoldAbuser84 Jul 28, 2010 at 6:06 pm
I'm waiting for T-Mobile to launch it as well. When Bold 9700 came out, rumor had it that it was exclusive. But few months later everyone else launched it, so I'm pretty sure T-Mo is gonna get it.
firebored Aug 1, 2010 at 8:11 am
I've been with AT&T for a looong time. Have four phones and paying over $200/mth for over three years. Now if I upgrade I lose the piece of mind that I don't have to worry about what I do with my phone. While you guys are at that conference let them know how disappointed their customers are that they've done this to us loyal base of customers. BTW: AT&T would probably save more money by not tracking every little byte and making the bill ten miles long, than limiting use. The data use information on the bill means nothing to me now. It will if they claim I went over. I probably will be running the contract out and switching carriers because of this. At least I don't have to worry that I have run my data use out, right now, with this period.
P.S. This post was suppose to be a reply to the previous thread, but posted here instead.
06kingranch Jul 27, 2010 at 4:40 pm
I'm waiting until December, if Sprint doesn't get the 9800 AT&T or Verizon will have a new customer. So much for 10 years plus with Sprint.
sweetlittlehugs Jul 27, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Neither sprint nor Verizon can carry the 9800. They are cdma carriers and this is a gsm phone.
taylortbb Jul 27, 2010 at 6:32 pm
RIM however has on many occasions introduced phones that appear identical on the outside, but have CDMA rather than GSM/UMTS radios inside them. It's still possible an almost identical phone will land on Sprint as the 9830. I wouldn't expect RIM to have it out by christmas though.
cheech73 Jul 28, 2010 at 2:02 am
again you are wrong, AT&T will get it first but there will be a version with a similar radio to the bold 9650 world phone and guess who has those, yup Sprint and Verizon.
gdawg1881 Aug 1, 2010 at 1:55 pm
thats about to not matter now that verizon is soon to roll out the 4g LTE network which is backwards compatible with GSM!
reverepats Aug 2, 2010 at 9:42 am
i'm sort of new to all of this..........WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "CDMA"...."GSM"........SCHOOL MY PEOPLE
Jerry5k Jul 27, 2010 at 4:42 pm
But this 70 year old BB BOLD 9000 owner and lover since the first day it was released can't wait for the new 9800 slider. I'm like a 5 year old waiting for Christmas. My BB and all the apps and features keeps me young & excited and my brain active.
I may be in the minority but I have had no complaints and have received good service from AT&T.
Bring it on!!!
djjohnson Jul 27, 2010 at 4:43 pm
... off to NYC and getting my hands on this sweet device, should the news be confirmed.
Off goes the Bold 9700, and in comes this!
Don't care if 9700 can accommodate the new OS6.
Now starts the sleepless nights!
knuckles937 Jul 27, 2010 at 4:46 pm
I'm ready for Sprint to get this!! I really want this phone now!
gjblueribbon Jul 27, 2010 at 4:51 pm
All I can say is; WOW! WOW! WOW!!!!! So glad:) I am so anxious to finally get my hands on a vertical touch screen with qwerty key board
D_Boy623 Jul 27, 2010 at 4:51 pm
Dear T-Mobile if you dont get the 9800 Ill say screw it and go to Boost mobile and get a crappy Blackberry cause i cant stand at&t so please T-Mobile please get this phone as ive been paying you 188 a month for the last 6 years Thank you
Vermell1 Jul 27, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Where's my invite? XD. I live in NYC and want to go! ¬¬
Connor83 Jul 27, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Hey just get a catering job, or valet parker, for the event and then post all the details for us. Lol
Imayam Jul 28, 2010 at 11:57 am
IM down for that, theres an ingeious idea!
contender Jul 27, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Lets bring this bad boy over to sprint before the holidays.
joeldf Jul 27, 2010 at 4:59 pm
The 9800 is fine, but...
I want to (finally) hear something about the Pearl 9100. This is a phone that's been out for months in the rest of the world, but AT&T hadn't said jack about it.
gregorylkelly Jul 27, 2010 at 5:08 pm
I wonder if they plan on releasing the 9100 with OS6 preloaded and that's why it's been delayed...
Maybe they will do a double release and go for the husband and wife at the same time.
Wiredin Jul 27, 2010 at 5:00 pm
What about Canadians? :(
dboy54 Jul 27, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Any news on the Rogers front? I'm due for an hardware upgrade in Sept. Come on 9800!
KWDude Jul 28, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Its unfortunate that Canadian customers have to wait for the 9800, and more unfortunate as I am so close to RIM offices that I could easily throw my Bold 9000 and hit Jim Balsilies office window.
roninksb Jul 27, 2010 at 5:07 pm
If, in fact this is the debut of the 9800 and OS6, I hope that RIM also showcases some 3rd party applications which exploit OS6 because that is what will really excite people.
Vermell1 Jul 27, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Highly doubtful, its like when consoles are released. It takes time to develop a game/app that can take full advantage of an OS/console's true potential. This is what could justify the rather delayed development of the WebKit browser.
roninksb Jul 28, 2010 at 1:04 am
It doesn't have to be the final product, it could easily be a demo. Something worked up with only 3 weeks development time by Gameloft or something like that would go a long way to letting the world know that the new OS is the dawn of a new day for RIM's BlackBerry OS.
pedro80 Jul 27, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Send Me One
BerlGoetz Jul 27, 2010 at 5:21 pm
If Verizon doesn't have a BB slider within the next 11 months when my contract ends, I might change providers.
laramr Jul 27, 2010 at 10:56 pm
I was hoping for it by Fall.
BBtech3632 Jul 27, 2010 at 5:23 pm
US Cellular is getting this phone in Q4 of this year
bkhanni Jul 27, 2010 at 6:13 pm
US Cellular is slated to get the 9670 in Q4, not the 9800. 9800 is GSM only.
Thought US Cellular was getting the 9650 in August. It's been on their rebate form for a couple months now even. Was even an announcement on CB about it not too long ago..
bigpolla04 Jul 27, 2010 at 5:27 pm
In the black trunks we have the the mighty 9800 and in the pink trunks we have the itoy ...
devGOD Jul 29, 2010 at 2:27 am
ROUND 1 TKO ... IToy wins. Don't know why people call it the itoy when it had more business apps than the blackberry ironic right. nothing wrong with mixing business and pleasure on a phone.
but in all seriousness there is no real comparison between the iPhone4 and BB 9800 ... the phones you compare to a iPhone are like Droid X, Evo, upcoming Winmo7 phone, etc. BB Storm you could compare to the iPhone. I'm not saying the 9800 won't be a good phone but comparison wise it does "not" stack up to a phone like the iphone4. Anyone who says 9800 is spec, feature, design, etc better than the ip4 is just lying. You don't have to love or even like the ip4 to see that its better.
Fanatix85 Jul 27, 2010 at 5:33 pm
I think it was destiny for me to get this device (if announced) that day August 3rd is my birthday! So, CrackBerry if it is announced how about you guys give it to me as a gift! No harm in asking! Lol!
hurricane89 Jul 27, 2010 at 5:34 pm
That 9800 is as exciting as shuffleboard. I'll probably get one for my grandmother.
quellerie Jul 27, 2010 at 7:05 pm
... Or you could send it to me. PM me for my contact details :) We don't want to over-excite your poor old Grandma.
Sirhill Jul 27, 2010 at 5:47 pm
I hope this is the words that all of us have been waiting to hear: The 9800 is here and will be released on Aug 15. If not I will not only be pissed but I will lose my mind. So RIM and att say the magic words please.
laollis Jul 27, 2010 at 5:47 pm
OK. NOW! I want it now. Bored with my 9000. Want the 9800. :-P
rottonj Jul 27, 2010 at 5:55 pm
I want it. Don't make me jump carriers. By Black Friday or bust.
zachkiRo Jul 27, 2010 at 6:12 pm
i want one so bad!!!
lang007 Jul 27, 2010 at 6:18 pm
It's about time!!!!!
brodcaster Jul 27, 2010 at 6:24 pm
I'm far awat AT&T, but I don't mind getting a Torch :)
LayzieBone075 Jul 27, 2010 at 6:26 pm
ready for the BlackBerry (Torch? Bold?) 9800 on... T-MOBILE! :D
WillieLee Jul 27, 2010 at 6:35 pm
I really want to know the official details for Canada.
i cant wait to have the 9800. I love my BB Bold 9000, but to have a full size screen AND a hard keyboard will be perfect. and OS6 will be like a cherry on top of an ice cream sundae!
Pilot Prop Jul 27, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Ok things are looking better and better everyday.... I'm leaving my 9700 for the 9800 ASAP!
mgrimesii Jul 27, 2010 at 6:42 pm
AWWW thats my b-day..... what a great day to make the announcement.
xeroslash Jul 27, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Did they just really try to get people pumped for AT&T?
Oh man that's a good one! ROLFMAO OMG AT&T LOL
Thanks, crackberry. I needed that!
jhuntington Jul 27, 2010 at 7:11 pm
They need to make it available for us faithfull crack heads on Verizon! Forget AT&T!
jhuntington Jul 27, 2010 at 7:12 pm
They need to make it available for us faithfull crack heads on Verizon! Forget AT&T!
Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes Jul 27, 2010 at 7:29 pm
boots796 Jul 27, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Yes folks, Sprint is getting the BB9800 four months after AT&T. They will be the only two carriers. This should happen around the first of the year.
P.S. AT&T sucks!!!!!!!
Indiglo5997 Jul 27, 2010 at 8:44 pm
I am on my third Blackberry (Original Bold 9000) I still love it like the day i bought it and it has served me well for going on over 2 1/2 years now. I am past due on an "upgrade" through AT&T and have been eying the Evo but at the end of the day i decided to stick with BB as my deep down BB fan will not let me stray. So the question i have is this, is this unit considered full size? We all know how BB has been throwing out the "Bold" name on devices but they haven't truly been of the bold class. And do we have any rumors and or knowledge about "Bold 9000" looking devices coming soon as far as the form factor, size and layout?
You've had a 9000 on AT&T for 2 1/2 years? That's a neat trick. It only came out on AT&T in November 2008, not much more than 1 1/2 years ago.
jginel Jul 28, 2010 at 6:26 pm
they're missing the boat on that device... the only users complaining about it were women - due to size - and men with tiny hands... couldn't stay with att due to price and reception, so i kept my 8900, remained w/tmo and upgraded to the 9700 when it was released. love the form factor of the 9000 - that was their best device. i started using bb with the 8700g on tmo. c'mon rim: just do it... get a 9000 form factor for us business guys and release it on tmo... it'll be a score...a GOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!
tfrankson Jul 27, 2010 at 8:51 pm
TMo is getting this....... by the end of the yr..
IntuitivePhonesLover Jul 27, 2010 at 8:55 pm
I am a troll, or a hater. It's not that I want to ruin anyone's day, but the concept of liking a BB is so unnatural and confusing to me. Other than having to use one per a corporate IT group policy, have you spent more than a few hours with an iPhone or a modern Android (as in Android sets that came out the past 9 months or so)???!!!
Because I can say I have spent more than a few hours with a curve and a storm2 the past month. I can't believe how clumsy and hard to use they STILL are!!!
Go try a different phone for a while. You don't have to like it for me to feel better. I'm just of the opinion your phone life, and take anywhere really useful mobile tools, can be sooooo much better for you!
joeldf Jul 27, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Then, why are you even here - on a Blackberry site no less...?
My wife has an iPhone - she got it last year. I've used it. I don't care for it all that much. I like my little Pearl better.
But I don't go trolling the iPhone forums putting it down. The concept of doing that is so unnatural and confusing to me.
If the Blackberry didn't work for you, fine. You get the phone that works for you. But don't go telling someone else they are wrong, when you're in fact wrong for doing that.
LayzieBone075 Jul 28, 2010 at 2:16 am
Has a point dude. Why are you even here? The concept of doing that is so unnatural and confusing to me too.
IndePanda Jul 27, 2010 at 9:13 pm
No, IntuitivePhonesLover, I haven't owned an Android or an iPhone, but I have owned a Palm Pre and hated it so much I came running back to BlackBerry as fast as I could. And yes, you are a troller. Tell me again, what is the reason you are visiting this thread?
I hope that one of the above posters is accurate in that a CDMA version is coming soon and will land on the Sprint network!
IntuitivePhonesLover Jul 27, 2010 at 9:23 pm
sucked into a different article via a tech website link and I was so dumbfounded by the ignorance of some of the comments that I created an account to set the record straight.
I have not met anybody who has spent more than an hour with an iPhone that prefers the BB still... and I haven't had that conversation with any BB peeople in my life relative to Android yet. Interesting comment on the pre, I've only spent an hour on one. Web was definitely superior by orders of magnitude over even the latest BB, but that was about the only feature I played with, and couple guys at the office say pre hardware is very unreliable.
I see you are a Sprinter. Did you mess with an EVO? I only touched one for an hour, but I was blown away, my brief experience with it helped me decide to send my iPhone4 back as Android and Android derivatives appear to be leading OS innovation now. Battery life is short, I already charge any smart phone I own everywhere anyway.
gregorylkelly Jul 27, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Well, you are meeting one now. I had the iPhone for a month and the iPod touch for 2 years. I would NEVER buy an iPhone over a BlackBerry again. I personally don't enjoy Steve Jobs telling me what I can and can't do and I also don't enjoy using a dumbed down OS that survives because it has good App developers.
As for Android, I can't comment because I've only used them in the stores. I don't know enough about them.
eagle007 Jul 27, 2010 at 10:43 pm
You have now met someone who prefers the BB over the iphone...there is no comparison!
Dragondima Jul 28, 2010 at 9:54 am
There are a lot of BlackBerry users that try the iPhone, and switch back to BlackBerry. I never tried the iPhone, but the iTouch just to experience the device capabilities, and returned the device a week later. I know it's not the iPhone, but it was enough for me to see what it was capable of.
jeffreii Jul 28, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Is that a joke? My girlfriend has an iPhone 3GS and I have to use it all the time to help her or do something for her...sure it's sleek and the OS looks pretty but so many things about it just suck. Being shackled to iTunes has to be the worst part...
I feel like the iPhone forces you to do everyone one way: the way Steve Jobs decided was best for everyone. As someone whose last two phones (before my Bold 9000) were Windows Mobile devices, I need to have something that's very customizable and has, you know, a file system.
Furthermore, the absolute best thing about the Bold 9000 is the keyboard. Nothing has ever compared, for me, to the ease of typing on the Bold 9000 keyboard. You said you've only tried a curve and a Storm so obviously you haven't experienced that part.
Last but not least, please keep in mind: not everyone is exactly like you so maybe you can try to understand that people have different opinions. You are, of course, on a huge website called "CrackBerry".
KWDude Jul 28, 2010 at 3:38 pm
I tried an IPhone for two hours and was so frustrated in its lack of functionality..yes lack! I was tired of waiting for RIM to release the slider and wanted something new so decided to try the IPhone 3GS, called Rogers and told them to send me my upgrade. First what frustrated me was setting up my email accounts, that was a huge pain, when I got that all going sharing contacts and just basically having the apps work together was not a simple task. I did all this in about two hours and decided to send the IPhone back and patiently wait for the slider. I just hope the slider is all I want and expect it to be particularly after this lengthy wait.
maqabyah Jul 27, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Hey man, I hope this is the Blackberry to set a standard. But Rim! we still waitin on Blackberry os 6 so just make sure you deliver. I love blackberries but its time to make that next leap forward and over the competition.
abolds4397 Jul 27, 2010 at 9:24 pm
I hope T-Mo will get the 9800 too! That is a very nice device. I could be happy for a very,very long time if they do get it!!!! I'm holding on to see if it happens!
RyeBrayed Jul 27, 2010 at 9:40 pm
I switched to a Blackberry to get away from touch screens, I do hope they don't make this touch screen thing the future norm.
jeffreii Jul 28, 2010 at 2:53 pm
I did the same...but as this device also features a full BlackBerry keyboard and a trackpad - allowing you to navigate the OS without using the touchscreen if you want - the touchscreen should be complementary.
STR8WESTCOAST Jul 27, 2010 at 10:14 pm
U clowns are still excited about a ford escort. BB is done. No major updates or apps. All they do is tweak it. GOOD BYE BB. HELLO DROID X
gregorylkelly Jul 28, 2010 at 8:33 am
Don't you mean "GOOD BYE BB. HELLO LAPTOP SIZED PHONE WITH 5 HOURS OF BATTERY LIFE!!!"
sf49ers Jul 28, 2010 at 2:27 am
did you buy the laptop bag for your phone or else did came free?
doortonowhere Jul 27, 2010 at 10:41 pm
While I am just as excited as the next person about OS6 this thing is just beyond fugly as far as I am concerned.. I'll tpass. No offense to others that might like it.. I know everyone has their own taste.. I just think that thing looks beyond weird
I'm right with you there!
9780 on the other hand.......
eagle007 Jul 27, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Yep...I am going to wait for it and pass on the BB 6. He-he! Thought that would get your attention! Let's savour the BB6...upgrades will come soon enough!
I can't wait for the new Bold 9800 with BB6 and the new Webkit browser! Bring it on...
BoldtotheMax Jul 27, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Hoping one day it comes to T-Mobile, but I will wait for awhile until the bugs and whatnot are worked out, but man it does look like a killer phone for sure. Hope this is the big news we all or most of us have been waiting for.
Erievon Jul 27, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Dear Verizon, you have until the end of October to obtain and sell a 9830...
...or a storm3
blkbryadict Jul 27, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Screw AT&T, I want to see it on T-MO.
xshawx Jul 28, 2010 at 12:10 am
For once .....listen to your people. Stop letting the (limited data-high priced buddies of Apple) get the jump on new Blackberrys.
HTC_Droid_EvO Jul 28, 2010 at 12:38 am
That picture looks like it was taken in 1980...
breakmedown Jul 28, 2010 at 12:59 am
Looks a lot like it was taken with an 8MP camera on a phone. So I bet the file size is huge and the picture still crap.
vgs487 Jul 28, 2010 at 2:25 am
Yes the 9800 sure is great in terms of its built-in OS, screen size, memory, camera mp, physical qwerty keyboard etc but there is one problem, it's a slider. And slider phones usually have problems after 8months or so depending on how frequent you slide it because the mechanism or part that connects the physical keyboard to the screen gets damaged easily. This part is called the "flex" and yes I am not 100% sure if this will happen in a blackberry phone but I've owned 2 slider phones(although they are nokias but I have a strong feeling slider phones in general have a "flex" part) and after some time the keypads weren't working normally anymore because of the flex problem. Hope this doesn't happen in the 9800.
jeffreii Jul 28, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Before I got my Bold 9000 I had two different Windows Mobile sliders (HTC Apache and TyTn II) and never had a problem with the slider or keyboard...aside from the fact that the keyboards pretty much sucked from the beginning...and the fact that the hassle of sliding out the keyboard to the side and turning the device was annoying.
Only playing with the 9800 will determine if I mind a vertical slider or not...but I can't wait to try it!
vgs487 Jul 28, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Haha you're lucky you did not have any problems with those sliders you had before. At least you didn't get traumatised with using slider phones haha. Well maybe it was just a thing of nokia. Again I hope bb's quality is better than that of nokia's sliders.
P.S. I am hoping that I could atleast get the webkit browser for my 9700 -_-
Phony bologna Jul 28, 2010 at 2:27 am
Why does AT&T always seem to get the coolest phones? First the Bold 9000 and now the 9800? It's as though the manufacturers don't understand that AT&T's success and growth over the years is solely due to the iPhone. Their growth has been IN SPITE of their network. They really are not a carrier deserving of the "America's #2 carrier" title. It's just an inflated figure as a result of being the sole carrier of America's hottest device. Once the iPhone moves to Verizon or T-Mobile, I'd like to see what AT&T's status looks like then. Sprint has has some shitty phones but I'd say that T-Mobile isn't too far behind. I love my plan with T-Mo but I'm getting tired of seeing my carrier's mobile device selection look like it's solely for teenagers. The 9800 is the only BB I want to upgrade to and to see it on AT&T is frustrating. I moved to AT&T for the 9000 a few years back, promptly paid the ETF, unlocked my Bold and signed up with T-Mobile because AT&T's network was such garbage. Now I'm happily on a 9700. Come on RIM, wake the hell up. AT&T is shit. Send the 9800 to other carriers, for Christ's sake. Yeah, this comment should be enough to change the minds of the powers that be. Im so irritated right now. Sorry, folks.
jeffreii Jul 28, 2010 at 3:35 pm
AT&T is great for me. I'm a loyal and satisfied customer. Sorry you experienced otherwise...but try and imagine that perhaps AT&T is good in most places and crappy in a few...probably exactly like any other carrier!
breakmedown Jul 28, 2010 at 11:48 pm
I've had AT&T for just shy of 5 years now and don't see any reason to give them up. I've dropped less than a dozen phone calls, I've always had lightning fast data speeds, and there's rarely at time when my Verizon friends have had service and I haven't. There are actually about as many places around here where I have service and they don't. So in the areas where I travel to and around, AT&T has an outstanding network.
Phony bologna Jul 28, 2010 at 2:27 am
Why does AT&T always seem to get the coolest phones? First the Bold 9000 and now the 9800? It's as though the manufacturers don't understand that AT&T's success and growth over the years is solely due to the iPhone. Their growth has been IN SPITE of their network. They really are not a carrier deserving of the "America's #2 carrier" title. It's just an inflated figure as a result of being the sole carrier of America's hottest device. Once the iPhone moves to Verizon or T-Mobile, I'd like to see what AT&T's status looks like then. Sprint has has some shitty phones but I'd say that T-Mobile isn't too far behind. I love my plan with T-Mo but I'm getting tired of seeing my carrier's mobile device selection look like it's solely for teenagers. The 9800 is the only BB I want to upgrade to and to see it on AT&T is frustrating. I moved to AT&T for the 9000 a few years back, promptly paid the ETF, unlocked my Bold and signed up with T-Mobile because AT&T's network was such garbage. Now I'm happily on a 9700. Come on RIM, wake the hell up. AT&T is shit. Send the 9800 to other carriers, for Christ's sake. Yeah, this comment should be enough to change the minds of the powers that be. Im so irritated right now. Sorry, folks.
jginel Jul 28, 2010 at 6:09 pm
i was using the 8900 on tmo - great rates and uma - but wanted the form factor of the 9000. tried it on att and reception was horrible but the phone was great. i was willing to pay more for the service but where i live, reception was non-existent... now they offer some microcell to improve reception but a no go for me. using the 9700 on tmo and uma solves all of my problems. i wish there was a way to get the 9000 form factor back from RIM with all of the upgrades of the 9800 - excluding touch screen if it's too hard to do. that device would be a winner. the 9800 is a "miss" for me just due to the vertical slider... horizontally may have given us a larger keyboard along with the larger screen and all updates of the device. for now, it's tmo and the 9700.
dwbarcl Jul 28, 2010 at 8:39 am
The phone I have been waiting for and its on ATT. Come on Verizon...
pittsy12 Jul 28, 2010 at 9:15 am
I so want to crash this party...
batrad Jul 28, 2010 at 9:35 am
Waitin on my Invite ..
My Bold 9700 is almost on its last legs...
Need a replacement now..
Dragondima Jul 28, 2010 at 10:00 am
Out of curiosity, which of you will be going to the event? Will there be a live Blog going on? Could you provide any details as the specifics of the event?
kennyiceberry Jul 28, 2010 at 10:55 am
We all gettin', played by RIM! Do you think whatever is announced will live up to expectations? Unfortunately, this company does not have a good, recent track record of successfully pushing the envelope. Whether you take that as regarding technology or in the area customer satisfaction. Can anyone say RIM has achieved excellence in the last two years in those areas? These are the kind of ways one should judge a leading consumer/business technology company I think. I for one am certainly not going to get my hopes up regarding whatever shiny black object [that might or might not work] is announced on August 3.
chrisdivincenzo Jul 28, 2010 at 11:11 am
Can't be any worse then the iphone right?
SuperTone Jul 28, 2010 at 11:30 am
Lets go RIM!!! Drop this puppy...
Mark A. Jul 28, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Our local press is hyping this device as the next possible iPhone killer. Ridiculous. I'm a Storm 1 owner, and if this is what RIM is producing to compete with iPhone, Droid X etc. my next smartphone will definitely not be a Blackberry.
Rossonero Jul 28, 2010 at 1:53 pm
I definitely want one. How does one get invited to said event!? Last time I went to an AT&T "event", I got a new BB.
juded55 Jul 28, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Nope - don't care how great the device is I'm not leaving VZW for ATT - not for a new Berry not for an iPhone not nohow.
RobNyc Jul 28, 2010 at 5:20 pm
I just wish Sprint gets it fast!!!
I don't want to open a new account with AT&T lol
jginel Jul 28, 2010 at 5:58 pm
the main advantage of bb is the keyboard and since they're not bringing back the form factor of the 9000 - which was the roomiest keyboard to type on and a nice size screen to match - at least they could've made this slider operate horizontally a la the 1st "droid." this device is a "miss" for me..i'll stay with the 9700 for now. an updated 9000 with the all of the advances of the 9800 would be a winner amongst male users worldwide. real hands require a real keyboard and the 9000 was a winner. you ask: why not use one? i tried with att but they're expensive and reception is horrible. cured it all by remaining with TMO - best rates and uma is worth the price of admission all on its own.
BoldAbuser84 Jul 28, 2010 at 6:19 pm
T-Mobile has to get it. Been waiting for this for so long!! If they don't get it... oh well, I sure as hell am not leaving T-Mo. AT&T will NOT get my $$. Been a T-Mo customer for 10 years and I will not leave them for crappy customer service with AT&T and double the monthly rate for limited service when I have cheap unlimited great coverage with outstanding customer service. hopefully by Christmas I'll have the 9800. And we can also get it unlocked :-)
mrakifa Jul 29, 2010 at 9:54 am
Goodbye 9700..hello 9800...can't wait...this is gonna be the ultimate blackberry device
sk1zle Jul 30, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Does anyone know if this is by invitation only? or is there a way for us to RSVP to this event? if so, where is it taking place.
Bye, BlackBerry. It's been (mostly) lovely.
I noticed that the Telus mobility website no longer displays the BB Storm2 in their phone lineup, I wonder if this is to make room for the 9800? Perhaps Canadians wont have to wait as long as we think!!! (Here's to hoping!)
NeenaBerry Aug 1, 2010 at 9:32 pm
I want this phone does anyone know if T Mobile is scheduled to get this model in the near futue?
I called Rogers today to find out about upgrading my device (8900), the rep said he didn't have a exact release date of the 9800 but that "it would be in about 2-3 weeks".
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Comment posted on Scottish Power Renewables announces another delay for proposed Tiree Array by Malcolm Kirk
Alien Energy – is that what you're producing ? Sorry Tim looked at all alternatives – had wood burners etc in the past – just have to bite the bullet of the heating oil thing.
Malcolm Kirk also commented
- Yet another well thought out, reasoned, reply from Webcraft
- I offered you the connection to iplayer so you could watch the debate. The most reasoned and plain speaking person there was Donald Trump – there was no arrogance. If you can get over your bitterness, watch the recording – start at 20minutes in.What Mr Trump said in answer to Chic Brodie was – and I'll shorten it ( my tea's ready) but not miss the salient points ' I am an expert on tourism – I have won many awards – my golf clubs are rated the best in the world – I have 5 star and even 6 star ratings – I am an expert in tourism ' What in hell's name is wrong with that ? ? Ok – I see – he's an American.
- Webcraft – you lied a while back when you attributed some nonsense you'd made up – to me – and I had to warn you to be careful. I have given you the website connection ( 18 above) to a very clear explanation of why we consider Patrick Harvie lied twice. In fact I have added so much info to this forum in the last 24 hours and not one of you has offered a reasoned detailed debate – all you do is get personal. Incidentally probably one of the most knowledgeably persons there on Wednesday was Graham Lang who I would like to call ' a wise old head' with the greatest respect. He pointed out he had listened, read, gone to meetings, viewed videos – in fact obviously gone very deeply into the pros and cons of Global Warming – his view is that the 'Jury is still out' and that's my view.
- Wood chip is about 90% of the cost of my present oil burner but the cost of changing over is not worthwhile. I am surprised that no mention was made of the fact that the CO2 created by burning wood just puts back into the atmosphere the CO2 the tree absorbed whilst growing. At least that's what they say. However,the major arrogance and attitude on Wednesday in Edinburgh came from MSP Patrick Harvie who not only offered his untruths to the whole committee and media but repeated them on telly later that evening. As I can't attach a picture here I give you:- http://www.windfarms.me.uk/wind6.html
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- Tim – there's an awful lot above that you haven't commented on !
Many moons ago it was made clear that Mr Trump would not be donating money to CATS. It was a thought at one time but a little research by their accusers would have shown that not to be possible – but for the said MSPs the headline was more important than the facts. As far as fuel poverty is concerned Tim – I and my wife are living on a pension of about two thirds of what we had a few years ago because of the recession, as are probably most people of our age who saved hard for their retirement. I again need 1000 litres of heating oil even though we have been careful how we use it. The last 1000 litres bought just 3 months ago cost £690. We are not poor as such but I think we could be included in the general title of 'fuel poverty ' with everybody else, as it now costs such an increased proportion of income to fill the tank. ( Anyone have Donald's address – I might need a loan) ! The comment about Mr Trump buying Rangers was indeed an aside to break the tension of the morning. Would he be Scotland's favourite son however if he had said yes ?
Recent comments by Malcolm Kirk
- No nationalist politicisation of the Games?
Don't know if somebody has already posted this somewhere – 'Hitlers opinion of the games outfit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ8Jdq_oY9E
- Darling launching pro-union Tourism Together on Loch Lomond this morning
Another small aside Lowry:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O9MndkgEKA
The first one is still at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUaej4mEBlc
- The people and the election: influences the Scottish Affairs Committee ignored
"Yes – will allow our tax resources from oil, gas, fishing etc etc to be used for our benefit" – no it won't – it will all disappear into the Holyrood coffers to be used as Salmond and his followers see fit. Fair play! – democracy! – all for one – one for all ! from the SNP ? ? ? ? ? – No Chance
- Anas Sarwar: on the indyref bus with Labour on the move
Nice one – Karl !
- Darling launching pro-union Tourism Together on Loch Lomond this morning
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Decades ago, an aspiring film director won a contract to create a documentary series about the Civil War in nine episodes covering a total of 11 hours of video. The majority of the source material was 16,000 black-and-white still photographs from the mid 1800s. Imagine the task of creating an epic documentary with nothing but old black-and-white still photos!
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The other Michael Jackson
The sudden death of pop icon Michael Jackson was surely the biggest story of the week and his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame quickly became a go-to point for fans and media. Only there was one problem – the pop icon's Hollywood star was hidden under a red carpet the night of his death. Contributor Daniel Dreifuss captures the confusion in this moody portrait as photographers and fans gather mistakenly around the star of Los Angeles-area radio personality Michael Jackson.
All I watch is fox but when all you had on for 3 days is Michael Jackson i was totally disgusted.There is so much news that could be covered and it seemed Like no one was interested.Do you really believe all of that coverage was necessary ?
I agree. I don't remember many former presidents who died who got this treatment. Why? He was a washed up entertainer, and some kind of freak on top of that. Hadn't toured or sold any albums for about 15 years. If he had so many "fans", why didn't they already own copies of his albums that they are now rushing to purchase? Any Beatles or Elvis fan would certainly already own their albums.
First to say that,Michael Jackson is no more.
All his songs are good.
He can be named as a King of Pop.
Like Beatles,huge following for him.
All mass media gave too much publicity to this pop icon.
For me since 5 days,wrote many comments to all leading websites.All my writings were published.
Now,all media network,music industries wants to get more money from his fans.
There is a proverb-Make the hay while sun shines.
When Michael Jackson was with us, no body had corrected him from his strained relationship,and free from over consumption of tablets.
Genius artists are usually misuderstood, by some of the media of all times.
The other side of Michael Jackson, some liked or not, was that he was a great creator of art and a good father.
Lets rest him in Peace as a Human Being,
Lets exalt his work as an artist.
The mass media impact of his art production, interupted by human failures from himself and/or others around him must not hide the message of his work and legacy.


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Dealing with the Swine Flu Threat During Pregnancy
Should pregnant women be among the first, or the last, to get H1N1 vaccines?
The worldwide death toll from swine flu is now at 700, according to the World Health Organization. And the U.S. government is gearing up for a mass vaccination campaign this fall, one not seen since the polio vaccine first became available in the 1950s. Earlier this week, the Food and Drug Administration approved the 2009-10 seasonal flu vaccine, but it doesn't include protection against the H1N1 strain that is responsible for swine flu. An H1N1 vaccine is still being tested for safety and efficacy. When it becomes available later this fall, should pregnant women be among the first to get it, or the last?
On the one hand, healthy pregnant women who get infected with the flu are at increased risk of serious illness and hospitalization. In fact, the second H1N1 flu death in the United States was a pregnant woman. Because of this greater risk, pregnant women are advised to get annual flu vaccinations. On the other hand, pregnant women also are advised to be very cautious when taking any medications—especially the newest ones—because of unknown health risks to the developing fetus. What's more, many folks remember the 1976 swine flu vaccination fiasco, when some 500 Americans out of the 43 million vaccinated developed a rare paralyzing condition called Guillain-Barré syndrome that may have been linked to the shot. Just today, public health experts said that there's no way to know if any rare side effects will occur in the new vaccine until millions of people are vaccinated. Those unknowns would make an expectant mom especially nervous.
There's also the question of thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative that was banished from other childhood vaccines several years ago but is still used in most flu vaccines. In a previous blog post, I quoted thimerosal researcher Tom Burbacher, professor of environmental occupational health sciences at the University of Washington, saying that he thinks pregnant women should opt for a thimerosal-free flu vaccine. He's seen from his research on infant monkeys that the mercury in thimerosal passes into the brain and remains there for months. That's not to say that a single flu shot is unsafe, he says, but it's still best for pregnant women to minimize any exposure to mercury. The new H1N1 vaccine will come in a variety of formulations, including some that won't contain thimerosal, according to a spokesperson for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Pregnant women who want to avoid the compound, however, may need to search a bit to find a doctor who stocks thimerosal-free versions of both flu vaccines. Most gynecologists don't bother because the CDC doesn't say there's any need for pregnant women to avoid thimerosal. John Iskander, the previous head of immunization safety at the CDC, told me last fall that the reason the agency doesn't recommend thimerosal-free vaccines is because "there's still not enough women receiving the flu vaccine, and we don't want to throw up another barrier in the vaccination process." Most likely, the CDC will recommend that pregnant women get both vaccines this fall, but the agency hasn't yet finalized its recommendations for at-risk groups (including mothers-to-be).
In terms of other precautions pregnant women should take to minimize the risk of swine flu, the CDC advises pregnant women who have been exposed to someone infected with H1N1 to be treated with the antiviral drug Tamiflu. Ditto for those who have flu symptoms themselves. This advice—which doesn't apply to healthy women who aren't expecting—is due to the fact that H1N1 infections have led to more severe complications in pregnant women.
One piece of swine flu advice directed at British pregnant women, though, sounds pretty shocking to me. A few days ago the Department of Health in Britain began recommending that pregnant women stay indoors when possible and avoid taking public transportation to keep from getting infected with H1N1, according to the British Times Online. The agency also said expecting women should avoid crowds and should limit the movements of their kids so they don't bring the virus home. I'm guessing most pregnant women would ignore that advice—at least as long as the virus stays its course and doesn't become more dangerous.
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Elizabeth Olsen, Mandy Patinkin, Susan Stroman, Duncan Sheik and David Ives To Be Featured in Classic Stage Company 2013-14 Season
By Carey Purcell
The Classic Stage Company announced its 2013-14 season. Under the leadership of artistic director Brian Kulick and executive director Greg Reiner, the Off-Broadway theatre's season will include a popular work by Shakespeare, a new adaptation of Bertolt Brecht's A Man's A Man and an original comedy by David Ives.
A new production of Romeo and Juliet will feature Elizabeth Olsen ("Martha Marcy May Marlene") and Finn Wittrock (Death of a Salesman) as the star-crossed lovers. The production will be directed by Tea Alagić.
Tony Award winner Mandy Patinkin and actor/performance artist Taylor Mac in The Last Two People on Earth: An Apocalyptic Vaudeville, directed and choreographed by Tony Award winner Susan Stroman, with music direction by Paul Ford.
"Following a flood of biblical proportions, the last two people on the planet discover their common language is song and dance," press notes state. "Together they chronicle the rise and fall and hopeful rise again of humankind through music that runs the gamut from Rodgers and Hammerstein, to Sondheim to Queen and R.E.M."
Director Brian Kulick and Tony Award-winning Spring Awakening composer Duncan Sheik (who collaborated on the theatre's current production of Brecht's The Caucasian Chalk Circle), will work together on a new production of Brecht's A Man's A Man.
"This production continues CSC's popular exploration of Brecht, which began in 2012 with Galileo," press notes state. "In this early knock-about, anti-just-about-everything farce by Brecht, an innocent dockworker in British Colonial India is rather unorthodoxly enlisted into Her Majesty's Armed Forces, where he is 'dismantled like a car' and then reassembled into the ultimate fighting machine."
The season will conclude with The Heir Apparent, the latest comedy by Tony Award nominee David Ives (The School for Lies, Venus in Fur, New Jerusalem). Ives' work is based on the play by Jean-François Regnard and the production will be directed by Tony Award winner John Rando.
"Eraste has it all: good looks, a beautiful fiancée and a huge inheritance from an ancient uncle," press notes state. "There's just one little problem: the uncle won't die and he's bequeathed his entire fortune to a distant relative. What's a fine 18th century fellow to do? What else but enlist the aid of his resourceful servant, Crispin, who could 'out-Figaro' Figaro."
The 2013-14 Season will also reunite CSC with the Graduate Acting Program of the Columbia University School of the Arts for The Young Company, which will feature Shakespeare's The Tempest in March.
Additionally, CSC will bring back its Open Rehearsal Series, featuring a company of seasoned actors and directors exploring a classic text over the course of three Monday evenings. This coming season will focus on Shakespeare's Julius Caesar in October and in January, Brecht Fest will feature evenings dedicated to the poetry, songs, and short stories of Bertolt Brecht.
In April, CSC will present First Look Festival: Caryl Churchill, a one-night staged reading series exploring the visionary playwright's Cloud Nine, Fen and Mad Forest.
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Although I initially intended to slap this rifle into a synthetic stock - I had been contentedly hunting with synthetic-stocked rifles for several years - the Ram-Line stock I ordered had turned out to be a real piece of junk. Other synthetic stocks for the small ring Mauser got poor reviews, wouldn't work with a trigger-mounted safety, and/or cost far too much. I decided to take a chance on a laminated wood stock, and Boyds' was a natural choice.
Not only does Boyds' Gunstock Industries have a wide variety of stocks available, they enjoy a good reputation for quality. I settled on an unfinished laminated wood stock of their "pepper" coloration, which is an attractive black and gray. Perhaps best of all, this wood stock cost less than the Ram-Line piece of junk that I sent back. I ordered direct from Boyds' and paid less than I saw their stocks selling for elsewhere.
When my new stock arrived, it looked great. A note on the invoice sensibly advised to carefully check fit before modifying the stock, to ensure that you can return it if it doesn't work out. Good advice.
Laminated wood has a reputation for heavy weight, so I was concerned, as I wanted this to be a hunting rifle, and thus fairly compact and light. I was pleased when I checked the weight of the stock; although it wasn't exactly light, it was much lighter than I'd expected - and at 2.48 pounds, it weighed less than the Ram-Line stock I'd had to return (2.63).
The stock had a good fit and feel to it, also. Unnecessary wood had been routed from the forend, which helped lighten the stock. I noted that the pistol grip would be wonderful with some good checkering, but since I hadn't yet acquired the tools and skill to do that, it would have to wait. The shape of the forend was excellent, offering a nice wide base with a very comfortable gripping groove along the top edge. Boyds' calls it a flat oval; I call it a modified beavertail design.
The first thing I noted when I tried the gun in the stock was this: "Barrel channel sucks. It will be too wide up front and I'll have to remove wood farther back. But it won't look too horrible when I'm done." As you can see in the photo above, the barrel channel was cut for a much different barrel profile, and the wood touched the barrel quite firmly on both sides in the area between the arrows.
My first step in fitting this stock and action together was to open up the barrel channel in that area, which I did using some sandpaper.
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- Page 1: Beginning Stock Work - Barrel Channel and Initial Fit
- Page 2: Initial Fit of Action and Trigger Guard
- Page 3: Holes for Sling Swivel Studs
- Page 4: Removing Wood For Trigger Mounted Thumb Safety
- Page 5: Glass Bedding the Recoil Lug
- Page 6: Preparing to Bed the Tang and Rear of Receiver
- Page 7: Glass Bedding the Tang and Rear of Receiver
- Page 8: Beginning to Cut the Stock for Bolt Handle
- Page 9: Cutting the Stock for Bolt Handle
- Page 10: Finishing the Stock Cutout for Bolt Handle
- Page 11: Removing the Cheek Rest
- Page 12: Removing Wood for Safety and Finishing the Stock
- Spanish 93 Mauser Article 1: Before I Began Gunsmithing
- Spanish 93 Mauser Article 2: Beginning The Work
- Spanish 93 Mauser Article 3: More Gunsmithing Work
- Spanish 93 Mauser Article 4: Modifying the Bolt Handle
- Spanish 93 Mauser Article 5: Jeweling Bolt, Modifying Shroud
- Spanish 93 Mauser Article 6: Shaping Trigger Guard, Finishing Chamber
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Reporting from Washington and Los Angeles — The landmark $25-billion settlement between major banks and state and federal governments is aimed at doing more than just helping people who lost their homes through improper foreclosures.
It's an attempt to fix the biggest weak spot in the nation's economy. Although analysts are unsure the cure will take, the outcome could help determine whether voters give President Obama a second turn in office next fall.


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Baldwin City, Kan. — Ten Baker University students and three Baker faculty members were inducted into the Delta Pi chapter of Phi Beta Delta, an honorary society for international scholars, on Wednesday at the Collins House.
New student members were Haven Ashley, Topeka, Kan.; Lauren Breithaupt, Overland Park, Kan.; Nancy Delgado, Emporia, Kan.; Ariella Harrison, Anza, Calif.; Rachel Lusk, Overland Park, Kan.; Joseph Pace, Baldwin City, Kan.; Anna Richards, Baldwin City; Allyson Sass, Baldwin City, Kan.; Brittni Sayers, Centerville, Kan.; and Kate Thurbon, Topeka, Kan.
New faculty members inducted into the chapter were Jacob Bucher, assistant professor of sociology; Ryan Gibb, instructor of international studies; Joanne Nystrom Janssen, assistant professor of English; Robin Liston, associate professor of music; Robyn Long, assistant professor of psychology; and Leonard Ortiz, assistant professor of history.
Delta Pi also celebrated the varied and considerable contributions of Eliot S. Berkley, a longtime friend of the University and founding member of Greater Kansas City's International Relations Council. He established the Eliot S. Berkley Prize in International Studies Prize in 1999 "to promote and reward outstanding students who are pursuing careers in international business or other internationally-related field."
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Erie County's Legislature was in a tizzy at its June 5 meeting, a response to a last second letter from Control Board Chairman Anthony Baynes.
The letter had asked them to reconsider letting County Comptroller Mark Poloncarz's office borrow about $100 million in loans to close temporary gaps in the budget. With a lower bond rating, the control board could get the loans at a cheaper rate, Baynes argued.
The problem, both to Poloncarz and lawmakers, was that if the control board was unable to get the loans quickly enough, the county would literally run out of money — for its operations, for its payroll and for its numerous vendors who have contracts to provide services — at the end of June.
The control board relented on Friday, approving the loans at a meeting at the Buffalo and Erie County Public Library auditorium.
"The Erie County Legislature has previously approved similar revenue anticipation notes to meet costs from mandated social service programs when the state and federal governments have not reimbursed the county in a timely fashion," said Legislature Chairwoman Lynn Marinelli, D-Town of Tonawanda. "We appreciate the (control board) taking action to allow Erie County to continue offering services and to operate these vital programs for our community."
The Western New York region of the Empire State Chapter of Associated Builders and Contractors announced its county endorsements a little more than a week ago. They are Chris Collins for county executive, incumbents Michael Ranzenhofer in the fourth district, John Mills for the 13th district, Kathy Konst for the fifth district, Cynthia Locklear in the ninth district, newcomers Ed Rath for the 15th district and Bradley Rowles in the 14th district. All are Republicans except Konst and Locklear, who are the two legislature Democrats most likely to side with Republicans.


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Marsalis Johnson, 21, of 215 Wilson St., is accused of firing the shotgun out a window about 4:30 Friday morning in a congested area without regard for possible injury.
Police responding to the gunshot report caught Johnson crawling out a third floor window. Police said witnesses reported Johnson and his roommate were fighting when Johnson discharged a shotgun.
After obtaining a search warrant, police recovered a shotgun shell from the floor inside the apartment, along with a box of loaded shells, but did not recover a shotgun.
Bail was set at $75,000 cash/surety, but there is a 72-hour probation/parole hold on Johnson. Because no plea can be entered to a felony in Circuit Court, a probable cause hearing was set for April 2.
Prior forgery conviction
Reginald Cadichon, 28, of 743 Douglas St., objected Monday in Circuit Court-Manchester District Division to a proposed $10,000 cash/surety bail on three forgery charges, two of them felonies and one a misdemeanor.
Cadichon is accused of using six counterfeit $20 bills at one location and two counterfeit $20 bills at another location Feb. 12.
Cadichon told Judge William Lyons: "I'm employed full time. I have a 2-year-old daughter."
Lyons said Cadichon has a prior forgery conviction, so personal recognizance bail is not appropriate, but he set bail at $6,000 cash/surety, with conditions that bar Cadichon from either location where the bills were passed.
A probable cause hearing on the felonies was set for April 2 and trial for the misdemeanor was set for April 23.
'A misunderstanding'
A Merrimack man, charged with felony second degree assault and misdemeanor simple assault, insisted Monday in Circuit Court-Manchester District Division that it was "a misunderstanding."
Kyle Pozzetta, 27, of 87 Bean Road, said: "I've never hurt my girlfriend. I never did."
Pozzetta was arraigned on a felony charge of second degree assault that alleges he put arms around his girlfriend's neck in a choke hold Saturday and struck her on the side of the face.
A police prosecutor requested $15,000 cash/surety bail, but Judge William Lyons set bail at a total of $11,000 cash/surety, with conditions barring contact with the alleged victim and barring him from an Orange Street address.
New stalking charges
A city man who has 11 stalking and two witness tampering charges pending in Hillsborough County Superior Court was arraigned Monday in Circuit Court-Manchester District Division on three new felony stalking charges and a misdemeanor of possession of a controlled drug.
Juan Rivera Ortis, 29, of 421 Manchester St., could enter no plea to the felony charges which allege he called the woman's cell phone and left a message March 4, called and spoke with her March 9 and was with her March 15 at a South Willow Street location.
He's accused of having marijuana in his possession when arrested.
Police prosecutors sought $50,000 cash/surety bail for Rivera Ortis, whose stalking charges are felonies because he was convicted of stalking in Nashua District Court in February 2011.
His criminal history includes assaults and criminal threatening of the same woman, who at Rivera Ortiz' arraignment Jan. 31 on another stalking charge told a judge: "I cannot stay away from the man." Robin Boutin said: "I love him that much. I have a 6-month-old son with him. I'm in recovery with him."
Bail was set at $50,000 cash/surety, with conditions barring contact with the alleged victim and barring Rivera Ortiz from the alleged victim's address.
A probable cause hearing on the felonies was set for April 2 and trial on the misdemeanor was set for April 23.
Says he can't leave
The alleged victim of a city woman charged with second degree assault and resisting arrest Monday said he will be homeless if he moves out of the shared residence at 118 Pearl St., but Tammy Jean Tucker can move in with her mother.
Tucker, 40, told Circuit Court-Manchester District Division Judge William Lyons: "I want to go home."
Tucker is accused of throwing a glass at the man, hitting him in the head and causing a cut on the back of his head. Tucker, who relies on a cochlear implant to hear, told the judge: "I'm not guilty."
Tucker was also charged with resisting arrest for struggling with officers trying to handcuff her.
Tucker, who has a court-appointed guardian, initially declined to apply for a lawyer, saying: "I don't have a job right now." But because that meant she was eligible for a court-appointed lawyer, she agreed to apply.
A probable cause hearing on the felony was set for April 3 and trial on the misdemeanor was set for April 25. Bail was set at $1,000 cash/surety with conditions barring contact with the alleged victim and barring Tucker from the Pearl Street residence.
Neighbor called police
Police who responded Friday afternoon to a report of a burglary in progress at a Union Street address spotted a man running from the area who matched the description provided by a neighbor of a man walking around the building and being up on the front porch.
Frank Ryan, 28, whose stated Goffstown address is a mix of two street names, was charged with criminal mischief, for allegedly breaking a window pane in a door; loitering/ prowling, for checking doors at the Union Street address; possession of a controlled drug, for allegedly having 31 grams of marijuana in his possession, and possession of a prescription drug, for allegedly having three Xanax pills.
Ryan pleaded innocent Monday in Circuit Court-Manchester District Division to the mischief, controlled drug and loitering charges and trial was set for April 23. He could enter no plea to the felony drug charge, so a probable cause hearing was set for April 23. Bail was set at $10,000 cash/surety, with conditions that bar contact with a specific person and bar Ryan from the Union Street address.
Parking officer struck
A parking control officer reported being struck by a vehicle Friday as she attempted to issue a parking ticket for a vehicle parked in violation of a one-hour only zone on Beech Street.
The parking control officer had started to issue the ticket to a Ford Econoline van parked in front of a Beech Street address when a woman came out of the building, telling the parking officer she would move the van and correct the violation.
The parking officer said she was still going to issue the ticket and positioned herself behind the van to complete the process.
The parking officer said the woman then got into the van and proceeded to back up about two feet, striking the parking officer in the leg and prompting her to yell at the driver to stop.
The driver stopped, got out of the van and went back into the building, not checking on the parking officer's condition.
A police officer responding to the call located the driver inside the Beech Street address, identifying her as Brittney Flagg, 26, of 190 Grove St.
Flagg was charged with felony reckless conduct and conduct after an accident. She was also charged with operating after suspension.
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I received my rebate last week. You may have gotten yours too – if your medical insurer 'made too much money.'
In fact, if you pay for your own health insurance either because you are self employed or have individual coverage, the likelihood that you will receive a rebate of your premiums is high.
If your health insurance coverage is provided by your employer, the employer gets the rebate and you may or may not share in the rebate. Of course, if you don't contribute to your coverage, you won't get any rebate.
Part of the new health care law states that health insurers must use at least 80% of premiums collected to pay directly for health care benefits. That means 20% or less can be used for profits and administrative expenses not related to health care. So, if your health insurance company spends 75% on health care benefits, then they have to rebate the 5% back to the premium payers.
The U. S. Government estimates that companies, including United Health Group and WellPoint (including Anthem BCBS of MO) will pay a total of $1.1 billion in rebates on 2011 policies.
Even if you don't like the new health care laws (if you understand them) this seems to be a good thing for all of us. It also seems that this will have an effect on future rate increases that are not a direct result of increasing health care expenses. I don't mind getting a check in the mail from my insurance company, you shouldn't either.
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Warren Beatty
Warren Beatty...
Institute for America's future
Warren Beatty Mulholland Productions-as of March 2009,was serving on the board of Institute for America's Future.
Sheinbaum fund raiser
Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey, the first Member of Congress to call on the President to bring our troops home, was be in Los Angeles on Saturday February 4th 2006, for a 'very exciting but critical fundraiser against the most well-known, well-financed challenger she's ever faced". woolsey was facing a primary challenge from a termed-out Assemblyman Joe Nation, a moderate Democrat who has been critical of her stand on the war and on bringing home our troops. He is raising money from people who have given money to Tom DeLay and Bush-Cheney and his legislative district covers 60+% of Congresswoman Woolsey's district. Congresswoman Woolsey is a "champion of equal rights, civil liberties, protecting the environment and fighting for single payer healthcare. Congresswoman Woolsey must be re-elected by the same victory margin she has had in the past to send a message to progressives everywhere that's it IS OK to be courageous, and to not back down on issues that matter."
The Host Committee for this fundraiser includes:
Ben Affleck; Ed Asner; Warren Beatty; Jodie Evans; James Cromwell; Matt Damon; Tom Hayden; Wendy Herzog; Mimi Kennedy; Norman Lear; Stephen Rohde; Susie Shannon; Stanley Sheinbaum & Betty Sheinbaum; Lorraine Sheinberg; Kathy Spillar; Gloria A. Totten; Peg Yorkin; Senator Barbara Boxer; Congressman Joe Baca; Congressman Xavier Becerra; Congresswoman Lois Capps; Congresswoman Jane Harman; Congresswoman Juanita Millender-McDonald; Congresswoman Grace Napolitano; Congresswoman; Lucille Roybal-Allard; Congresswoman Linda Sanchez; Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez; Congressman Adam Schiff; Congresswoman Hilda Solis; Congresswoman Maxine Waters; Congresswoman Diane Watson; Senator Sheila Kuehl and Assemblywoman Karen Bass.
The fundraiser was at the Stanley & Betty Sheinbaum residence in Brentwood. Both Sheinbaums have been members of Democratic Socialists of America.[1]
Wellstone Action
In 2009 Warren Beatty was listed as a member of the Advisory Board[2] of Wellstone Action, a Minnesota based organization based on the political legacy[3] of that state's late 'progressive" Senator Paul Wellstone.
- Wellstone Action and Wellstone Action Fund combine to form a national center for training and leadership development for the progressive movement. Founded in January 2003, Wellstone Action's mission is to honor the legacy of Paul and Sheila Wellstone by continuing their work through training, educating, mobilizing and organizing a vast network of progressive individuals and organizations.
- ↑ Progressive Talk, Posted on Friday, 3 February 2006 1:51:50 p.m. by angelsonmyside
- ↑ http://www.wellstone.org/about-us/board-directors
- ↑ http://www.wellstone.org/about-us/our-mission-goals


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Other Events, Financial Statements and Exhibits
Progenics Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (NASDAQ:PGNX) today announced that it will webcast its upcoming investor and analyst day, taking place July 18, 2013 from 2:30pm -- 5:30pm ET. The live webcast will be available in the Events section of the Progenics website, www.progenics.com/events.cfm, where an archive of the event will be available for 90 days.
A copy of the company's press release is included in this Report as Exhibit 99.1, and the information contained therein is incorporated into this Item 8.01 by this reference.
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The Baylor Bears kick off their 2012 campaign in the evening at home against Southern Methodist University on Sunday, Sept. 2.
The Bears, following a 10-3 (6-3 in Big 12 Conference play) season that ended on a six-game winning streak and was capped with a rollicking 67-56 shootout win over the University of Washington in the Alamo Bowl, must replace the orchestrator behind those high point totals. The Washington Redskins selected Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback Robert Griffin III second overall in this year's NFL Draft.
Senior signal-caller Nick Florence will take over after Griffin III's explosive 2011 season as Baylor hopes to keep last season's late momentum rolling.
SMU finished third in Conference USA's West division at 8-5 overall and 5-3 in the conference. The Mustangs ended last season enjoying a two-game winning streak, including a 28-6 triumph over the Pittsburgh Panthers in the Compass Bowl.
Game time, TV channel: 6:30 p.m. ET, FSN
Point spread: Baylor favored by 12
For news, discussion and more: For more on Bears football, visit Baylor blog Our Daily Bears, plus SB Nation Dallas.
For more on SMU football, visit SB Nation Dallas. And you should probably start reading Big East Coast Bias.
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Citing cost savings and the potential for increased turnout at the polls as motivation, the West Deptford school board voted 8-1 Monday to join nearly 300 districts across the state to take advantage of a new state law and move the annual school election from April to November.
After a lengthy debate last month, school board members got further information from superintendent Kevin Kitchenman on the pros and cons of a move, including what other districts were doing, as well as the potential costs for keeping the election in April.
While last year's election cost West Deptford schools $11,277 to run, this year could've been potentially close to double that, had the election stayed in April, school board President Christopher Strano said.
Keeping an April election, when only 1,560 voters showed up last year, at a greater expense didn't make sense, Strano said, compared to moving the election to November, where last year, 5,900 people cast a ballot.
"We're trying to do what's best for the kids in the district," he said.
The move also means the public will no longer get a vote on the school budget as long as the election stays in November, which will be the case at least through 2015, though Strano vowed to do as much as possible to keep the public informed on the annual budget process.
"People want to know where we're investing, where it's going," he said. "There is going to be a policy put in place to keep the transparency."
That includes continuing to hold a public budget hearing every year—as required by state law—as well as having a public budget work session, and presentations of the budget to various community groups outside the normal school board meeting schedule.
The move to November means the three school board members who are up for election this year—Jim Mehaffey, Peter Guzzetti and Don Hicks—will now serve through the end of the calendar year.
Interested school board candidates now have until the June primary election to file their nominating petition, instead of the Feb. 27 deadline for an April election.
The school election will remain nonpartisan, despite the move to the November general election, and school board candidates will be listed separately from candidates for other, partisan races.


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Housing is a Human Right
Tuesday, 23 April 2013 | A Public Affair
On Tuesday April 23rd, Brenda Konkel spoke with a panel about the upcoming Housing is a Human Right Summit. She spoke with Anthony Prince of the National Lawyers Guild, Karen Andrews of the First United Methodist Church and Heidi Weglietner of the Dane County Board of Supervisors. more »
Homelessness and Alcoholism in Madison
Monday, 4 February 2013 | A Public Affair
On Monday February 4th, Brenda Konkel subbing for John Quinlan spoke with a panel of guests about issues surrounding homelessness and alcoholism in Madison. Brenda interviewed Craig Spaulding, Meg Rothstein, Bruce Wallbaum, Nate Abrahams, Ed Kuharski and two members of Madison's homeless community, "Zombie" and Ronnie. more »
Solutions to Homelessness
Monday, 26 November 2012 | A Public Affair
On Monday November 26th, Brenda Konkel subbing for John Quinlan focused on ways to alleviate homelessness in Madison. She spoke with a number of Madison officials who are searching for ways to help the homeless community including County Board Supervisor Heidi Wegleitner, Michael Basford from Housing Initiatives and Linda Ketcham from the Madison Urban Ministry(MUM). Housing Initiatives is an organization that has been searching since 1993 to meet Dane County's ever-growing need to house homeless persons and families affected by severe mental illness. Since 1971 Madison Urban Ministry(MUM) has become an important force in Madison promoting social justice that has galvanized social change in and around Dane County. Together with the leaders of these organizations as well as …. more »
Occupy Madison Sets Up Camp at Dane County Human Services
Wednesday, 14 November 2012 | Molly Stentz
Occupy Madison has returned. The social-movement-turned-homeless-camp has a new location: Dane County Human Services. Approximately 15 homeless people have set up camp on the lawn next to the county office building on Northport Avenue on Madison's north side. At least for now. In Our Backyard spoke to homeless advocate Brenda Konkel as well as several members of the Occupy camp (who did not give their names). This story was reported by Rebekah Wilce and Hayden Marx, produced by Patrick Waring, and read by Rob McClure. It originally aired on In Our Backyard on Wednesday, November 14th, 2012. more »
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Your support for Cal U has never been more important. Our students are facing unprecedented challenges as state support for higher education dwindles.
Why give?
- 93% of Cal U students qualify for financial aid.
- Cal U students graduate with an average loan debt of $23,000, compared with an average loan debt of $19,000 for graduates of other public universities in Pennsylvania and $15,000 for graduates of public universities nationwide.
- In 1998, no Cal U undergraduate student had taken out a private loan. By 2008, nearly 900 undergraduates had borrowed from private loan companies.
- Cal U graduates tend to remain in the region, putting their degrees to work and contributing to the regional economy.
- Cal U infuses $270 million into the Pennsylvania economy annually and $100 million into the economy of Washington County. Support for Cal U students will help to ensure the vibrancy of the region
Why now?
- A steep decline in state funding for public higher education, from 63% 26 years ago to 34% today, has prompted tuition increases.
- Education and training are increasingly important in an ever more complex global economy. At the same time, grant funding for education has experienced a steep decline.
- Nearly two-thirds of Cal U seniors graduating with student loan debt come from families with a total family income of $50,000 or less.
- Cal U historically has opened doors for students who otherwise would not have access to higher education.
- The global economic downturn is increasingly putting higher education out of reach for many high school graduates. With money tight, families are forced to make hard choices.
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After you have chosen a game to watch, sort your database by team so you can easily find the players you want to scout. In the comments section, jot down the specific areas (we will cover the specifics for each position in the next four lessons) you will be looking at for each player. Doing this ahead of time will make it easy to quickly post a comment or two in an organized fashion.
Watching the game itself is of little importance to your overall evaluation, although you might want to pay ttention to how players react in clutch situations, especially when the game is on the line. I like to focus on one player at a time, searching the tape for plays that include the player in question. After evaluating all the plays that include the first player, I rewind the tape and start with another player.
Lesson Three through six will focus on the specifics to look for at each offensive position, but for now, I want to talk about what NFL teams look for in general. These are the traits to look for in every prospect regardless of position.
Character - How much character factors into the equation varies from team to team and scout to scout. I believe character is a very important factor when determining whether a young player can be depended upon on a consistent basis. Obviously character doesn't matter much if the guy doesn't have the athletic ability, but it can be the deciding factor between two players of similar talent. Since most of you will not have access to most college football players, you may have to listen to reports from other draft experts for information in this area. Also keep an eye out for players that make a habit of making the evening news with their off-field exploits or immature comments.
Competitiveness - How bad does this player want to win? Do they go all out on every down or do they take plays off? There's a fine line between being competitive and being overly aggressive. You want a player that has the intensity to go hard all the time, but you don't want to see a player lose his cool. Ideally, you want a guy who will give it his all until the whistle blows, but doesn't let his anger get the better of him.
Mental Preparation and Awareness - Does a player seem to understand his duties and what the team is trying to accomplish on every play? Does he spend the necessary time with his nose in the playbook or watching game film? Does he understand what's going on around him at all times? Does he react well when the play breaks down?
Athleticism - Playing speed, quickness off the ball, strength, and body control should all be factored into a players athleticism. Body control would include things like balance, turning and running, adjusting to the ball, timing jumps correctly, and ability to avoid or break tackles.
Leadership - Look for the player that is always prepared to do his job properly and works hard whether in practice or a game. A good leader does not need to be vocal, but must be respected by his teammates. He also sets a good example with his work ethic, shows up to play on every down, and pulls the team together when things are not going so well.
Consistency - Does the player put in a good effort every week or does he tend to disappear at times?
Injuries - Unfortunately, injuries are a big part of football, so you have to be aware of a player's medical history. If a player is prone to injuries that keep him in the trainer's room as often as he's on the field, you might not want to risk a draft pick on him. Any type of knee injury should be noted, as should any degenerative disorders.
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Chris Miller of Kent said he didn't fully grasp the hole he was digging when he studied public relations at the University of Akron.
By the time he graduated 18 months ago, he was $85,000 in debt, some of it for loans he took out to cover living expenses. But that is not the worst of it.
Because he wasn't earning enough money to make his monthly payments, he put the loans in forbearance — in other words, on hold but still accruing interest — and they have ballooned to $102,000.
He said he makes $50,000 working for a dot-com company — good money, he admits, in a job he absolutely loves.
But he cannot afford the $1,283 monthly payments that he will face when his forbearance ends this fall.
"I realize I'll never be able to afford a home. I do take the blame [for my debts], but I need something realistic" to repay, he said. "I'm never going to escape."
He is not alone:
Between 2004-05 and 2009-10, student debt surged nationwide and is hanging over a generation of young people and their parents.
One in 10 now has debt higher than $40,000, but that's just for those with loans that are part of the federal student loan program. Three-quarters of Miller's $102,000 is through private loans, for which data reporting is unreliable, and his parents are co-signers.
Ohio ranks seventh
Ohio is a standout. For nearly two decades, average tuition at public universities hovered at the fifth- to seventh-highest in the country, according to federal data, slipping only recently to 13th because of improvements in state aid during the administration of former Gov. Ted Strickland.
But that has left a toll.
The state ranks seventh overall for the percentage of students who have borrowed — 68 percent — and seventh for average student debt at graduation — $27,713 — according to the nonprofit Institute of College Access and Success.
The national average debt is $25,250.
Among public colleges, debt in the last 10 years grew the fastest at the University of Cincinnati (58 percent to about $26,500) and the University of Akron (48 percent to about $22,100), according to the numbers the institutions reported to the U.S. Department of Education and Common Data Set for magazine rankings.
At Kent State, where debt was the second-highest among the public institutions statewide, financial aid director Mark Evans chalked the borrowing up to many factors:
• A hike in the federal loan limit from $23,000 to $31,000, allowing students to borrow more.
• Lower state support of Ohio's public universities, causing universities to hike tuition and fees.
• State reductions in the Ohio College Opportunity Grant, from $2,496 to $1,088, in 2009-10. The grants, available to Ohio residents, are based on family need.
"If you were to take a look at our large generation of high-need students, our two-year live-on-campus residency requirement, reductions in state aid, there's an explanation, I would believe," he said.
UA financial aid director Michelle Ellis said that more students are using loans to fund living expenses on top of tuition and fees.
"Folks are strapped," she said. "That could be because of the kind of student who comes to UA," often the first in the family to go to college and from families of limited means.
Glenn Daniels of Akron expects to owe at least $50,000 when he gets his bachelor's degree in communication from UA. He believes a degree will help him to fulfill a big goal: to own a fitness gym.
"It will help me look better when I go into a bank," he said. "It fits me for what I'm trying to do."
He said he's "probably going to dread it when it's all said and done." But as a compounder for Goodyear, he is in a good position to pay the loans back right now.
Private schools higher
Average debt in states in the Midwest and East tends to be higher because of the proliferation of private colleges, according to research by the Institute of College Access and Success.
Ohio is no exception. Debt is higher at private schools, where the published tuition rate is $30,000 to $50,000 — at least three times more than public universities.
At Ohio Northern University in Ada, where student debt was the greatest, the average bachelor's degree graduate who borrowed owed almost $50,000, slightly more than the $44,000 yearly cost of one year of attendance.
That debt level pushed Ohio Northern into the Institute of College Access and Success' Top 20 list.
Larry Lesick, ONU vice president of enrollment, said the university tries to hold down debt. One way is to alert students when they're making decisions, such as changing majors, that could delay their graduation. Last year, ONU steered almost 150 wayward students back into line, he said.
Still, he is amazed that students have little understanding of the financial aid process and what it could mean later.
Mom and Dad, it seems, handle the financial aid process and the student may be largely unaware of what's going on.
"We do an entrance interview" to bring them up to speed, Lesick said. "How much of it sticks – that is questionable."
BGSU tops state list
At about $28,200, KSU graduates with loans were in hock more than those from any other state university except Bowling Green, where the average debt was about $31,500.
That puts both universities above the state average of about $27,700 and national average of $25,250, according to the Institute of College Access and Success' Project on Student Debt.
"It is of great concern," said institute program director Matt Reed. "It affects what students can do when they come out of college. And the prospect of taking out a lot of debt may deter students from going to college in the first place."
Nationwide, two-thirds of college graduates had federal and private loans in 2010, with students in states in the Midwest and Northeast owing the most money.
Americans have amassed more than $900 billion in student loan debt — more than all of the credit-card debt nationwide.
But others say they are worried about the cost of college and whether they can afford it.
Sharon Budin said her daughter, Mariah, may not be able to enroll for her sophomore year at UA.
The $18,000 annual cost of tuition, fees, room and board is too much for her family, as she is a Presbyterian minister and her husband is an activities director at an assisted-living facility.
If Mariah's grandmother does not agree to co-sign a loan for another year, Mariah, who is majoring in photojournalism with an eye to working in the entertainment industry, may have to enroll at Cuyahoga Community College and commute from the family home in Beachwood, as her two older siblings did.
"It's been a struggle," Sharon Budin said. "I just don't know how the middle class, and we're on the bottom rung of the middle class, is supposed to educate their children."
Kent State sophomore Alex "Sasha" Bratslavsky of Mayfield Heights expects to owe more than $30,000 when he finishes his bachelor's degree in pre-medicine. Scholarships and grants covered some of his tuition and fees in his first year.
"It's room and board that's killing me," he said.
He chose to live on campus to get the full college experience. That cost may be nothing to worry about, as he would command a high salary as a physician.
But it's a "very risky business," he said. "If [medical school] doesn't work out, then I'm in big trouble."
Some students and their families do not know how much a graduate can earn with a certain degree, so they miscalculate how big a loan they can repay, said Joseph Frizado, vice provost for academic operations and assessment at Bowling Green.
"We do have students with a lot of unrealistic dreams," he said. "With the turn in the economy, it makes the realistic dreams that much harder."
Carol Biliczky can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.com or 330-996-3729.
David Knox, former computer-assisted reporter, provided the research on debt.