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Before I begin, a quick recap for those who don't know what has been going on.
A while back, Thrylos started a thread by posting that, according to a source, Scott Baker had signed a 3 year contract with the Twins. The deal had not been announced, but Thrylos said it was signed and done, and it would be announced. A few people responded in disbelief, Thrylos responded in a demeaning fashion. A few days ago, news came out that Baker actually signed with the Cubs. The thread turned into a pile on Thrylos. John Bonnes attempted to diffuse the situation warning that by attacking incorrect sources, future posters with "inside information" would not put their neck on the line for fear of retribution. His post was essentially ignored. A short while later, Brock closed the thread.
You can see the entire thread here:
I have disagreed with John, Seth, et. al., many times before. I have posted to this effect. But I have to say that this is the first time I have been truly disappointed in the Twins Daily leadership group.
There are a few points I would like to make:
1) Thrylos is not a rookie poster. On the contrary, he is among the most prolific posters on the Twins Daily website. I can honestly say that his comments are usually among the most negative, argumentative, and demeaning of all the posters here. The fact that there were so many shots taken at Thrylos (including one by Parker Hageman) should tell you how Thrylos is generally viewed by the Twins Daily readers.
2) Thrylos could easily have avoided this situation by being half a step more cautious in reporting his information. He could have qualified the statement in any number of ways, but he chose not to. Furthermore, he invited challenges by posting aggressive replies to those individuals that wondered about the validity of his information.
3) When it was officially announced Baker signed with the Cubs, it looked as though TD went into protect Thrylos mode. Bonnes makes his comment about not attacking source-citers (I'll come back to this). Brock closes the thread. I find it very sad that there posts and posts of Thrylos attacking other comments, making wild accusations, and pushing around other posters, yet when the tables turn on said individual, TD make moves to protect him. They may say that they weren't, but it can't be viewed any other way.
John Bonnes' comments about not attacking individuals that cite sources because it can scare away others from posting in the future is also way off base. All of the negative comments about Thrylos on the thread were not made because a source was wrong. They were made as a direct result of Thrylos' past posting history, including his own responses in that thread. Aggressive, negative posters like Thrylos do substantially more damage to your new reader base than any single thread like this could possibly do.
Allowing daily attacks from posters like Thrylos, then protecting them when the tables are turned, is a poor move that smacks in the face of what you say Twins Daily wants to accomplish.
I understand that the TD group at times walks a fine line. Their hope is that this site doesn't turn into a bashing free-for-all, but a stays a more intelligent discourse on all things Twins related. I applaud their efforts in this regard. But if you want to protect somebody, protect your new readers, not somebody like Thrylos. Be more diligent on the slams and rips. Posters at Thrylos' level do not need to be protected, and have earned (both positive and negative) the responses coming to them.
It should also be known that, at the time of this blog, Thrylos has not posted anything since the Baker news came out. No response, nothing. That speaks volumes to me.
I hope that situation reminds the TD staff about where they want this site to go, and what is more important: protecting one individual, or protecting their readership.


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O.k., all of you fragrance wearers (I know there must be a few of us around here!) What do you have on today?
I'm starting the day with my first love of long ago, Diva (Ungaro.) How about you??
O.k., all of you fragrance wearers (I know there must be a few of us around here!) What do you have on today?
I'm starting the day with my first love of long ago, Diva (Ungaro.) How about you??
Nubka - Unpaid Slave Laborer...
Nothing, but if I put anything on it'd be Japanese Blossom from the Body Shop today, as I have a pilates class later. No need for anything too strong.
Otherwise, now that it's winter, I try to stick to Stella McCartney's original perfume. Soooo lovely, but kinda heady. Just right for cold weather. Rest of the time it's LAMB. Screw the stigma of celeb perfumes, Gwen's the bomb in general and her LAMB perfume is fresh and different without being too exotic on this pretty boring blonde.
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Thanks for the topic, nubka! I thought about starting it myself, but hesistated because there already is a Glamour Puss thread here.
I'm a perfume addict indeed and have a nice collection that has ovegrown the size of a cabinet that has been set up for that.
For my todays ballet class I put Fleur Defendeur by Lolita lempicka on. A soft and fresh, though warming and a bit strange fragrance. Not such an ambitious choice for the winter holidays.
Wheeee, a fragrance thread!!! Today most likely I will wear Flowerbomb by Viktor and Rolf (I have the $45 purse spray, no way I am paying more). I have a set of cold weather fragrances (Flowerbomb, L by Lolita Lempicka, Lolita Lempicka Original, Pink Sugar), mild weather (Elle BY YSL, Unconditional Love by Philosophy, Chocolovers) and hot weather such my lovely Comptoir Sud Pacifique Eaux de Voyage--I have four of them, my latest being Coco Figue. As you can tell I am into sweet vanilla gourmands only.
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googled to find out more.Not really sure if that helped much -- sort of like hearing my brother-in-law talk about wine.To me, the qualities of Norell are immediately apparent; it has cachet, presence, allure, character, and charm. The very start of the fragrance is somewhat bracing with galbanum offering some dry, slightly verdant sensations to the nose together with lemon, mandarin, and lavender notes. It mellows down very quickly to a warm, round and sensual floral heart composed of jasmine, hyacinth, iris, mimosa, and ylang-ylang.
In Norell, the notes that dominate to my nose are ylang-ylang, carnation, and clove. A dry, spicy counterpoint balances out the sweetness of the perfume.The base has cinnamon, coriander, vanillic cardamom, calla-lily, musky vetiver, oakmoss, and myrrh.
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I'm in Parfum Sacre by Caron today
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Goldleaf & Hydrangea, always.
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Whispri wrote: Makes you wonder why Wanda and Jillian are lower level than he, but there you go.
We know that royals and nobles level faster, and Wanda isn't either. She also probably saw zero combat action (and very little other experience-gaining action) for Faq. In addition, we don't know if casters and warlords level at the same rate (if D&D and similar are anything to go by, they don't).
Jillian popped near the very end of Faq, so she isn't that much older than Ansom. You still would think she would have gained more experience through operating as a barbarian warlord, but it could be, for instance, that Ansom could afford to take bigger risks in one-on-one fights with enemy warlords, knowing he had good backup. Also, he took all of Gobwin Knob's cities, that's got to be worth something. In the end, they are very close in level as well (her 9 vs. his 10).
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will he suffer a -3GOE or will it be considered invalid and assigned no points? A single axel will assigned a -3GOE.
will he suffer a -3GOE or will it be considered invalid and assigned no points? A single axel will assigned a -3GOE.
If performed as the solo axel jump, it would be an invalid element and receive no points. It would be allowed in the combination or as the other solo jump though.
Who has a 4axel??
Love to see it though, one day...
Believe it or not. I guess someone could examine the film to see if it has been doctored, as some are inclined to believe. I read a statement in an article that said none had been done in competition, which might lead one to think that they have been done in practice.
Last edited by Iceman; 01-20-2013 at 10:26 PM.
That video has definitely been altered.
If somebody had done it in practice, the video would be all over the internet, in today's day and age.
Ditto x two Look at it closely and the edit in mid-rotation is quite obvious. Chutzpah and Editing skills x 4. Even the posted comments are telling. The skater is in such shadow too, as if shielding his identity. But, that's probably due to bad lighting and/ or poor camera skills by the videographer.
I recall Plush once saying that a quintuple jump is probably impossible, but that a 4-axel might be possible since it requires 4 1/2 revolutions, not a full 5 revolutions.
They say the skater is Mark Leung, I believe. But again, that could be a pseudo. I'm skeptical too, but knew it existed so posted it. I think a 4ax will be done at some time, but I doubt it will be any time soon. But I'm more interested in a quintuple. Most people, including Mishin, thinks there will need to be an equipment change (lighter boots for one) before a quint can be done. I believe Goebel was actually working on one when he was with Heiss.
I have read that in an interview Kulik said he had done one on the floor (4ax), but never on ice.
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I actually enjoyed watching the video (thanks for posting it Iceman), mostly because it allows one to imagine what a 4axel would actually look like if done correctly & completely rotated!
So far the only one I've seen is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TfAzhrUyrA
And until Brandon Mroz performed his spectacular fully rotated 4lutz, I only used to watch Zhenya's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yEvVzq_uyA
Lastly, if history has taught us one thing it's that ANYTHING is possible, and I do mean anything, which includes a 4axel, quintuple, etc.
And imho Mishin would be the man to lead the way as far as technology goes. He's a well-known inventor after all, his website is out there (don't have it bookmarked) wherein it shows all his skating inventions, et al. I predict one of his future male students will perform a 4axel. It's just too bad it won't be Evgeni, but what he accomplished over his career with Mishin by his side will not be forgotten, one for the history books...
It may not be Plushenko, but when Gachinski is skating well, his triple Axel is so big and so airy that it makes me think that he could be the one to do it.
But I would rather never see it if getting it will cost too many careers. I would sooner see Gachinski get well and return to skating well rather than chasing the big new quads. Same with all of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG_uc4O3DVE <-- this one's real
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This question is important but we won't see it. If someone is going to try the 4Axel at the practices, I guess ISU will be asked to change the rule before the skater actually tries it in the SP.
Actually, what are the required elements ? a combo quad or triple + double or triple THEN a 2 or 3 Axel THEN a solo triple.
The question would be the same for a quad/quad combo, right ?
But nothing is stopping anybody from performing 3axel as the compulsory axel jump and 4axel as solo jump or combination. Well nothing other than the fact nobody has ever landed it.
Asada would do 2axel and 3axel/2toe in the SP at some point, IIRC.
In Novice Men at Pacific Coast Sectionals last year, Kevin Shum did a triple-triple combination which was not allowed and initially it was given credit (I believe those things have to be manually "asterisked out" at the Novice level and below because those rules aren't part of the ISU software), but later it was thrown out and cost him about 9 points, but it didn't end up affecting his overall placement.
RFOS is correct, you can do a solo quad and quad combo if the quad is a different jump. Technically, I believe all these jumps layouts are "legal" for senior man SP.
4A (out of steps), 3A, 4T+3T
4A+3T, 3A, 4T (out of steps)
These are also:
4A (out of steps), 3A+3T, 2A (this is insane)
4T (out of steps), 3A, 2A+3T
4A (out of steps), 3A+4T, 2A
I believe Plushenko has done 3A+4T combos in practice.
I can't think of any man who was relatively consistent on 4S and 4T other than Tim Goebel and Kevin Reynolds (to a lesser degree). Takeshi Honda, Min Zhang, Brian Joubert and Ilia Klimkin come to mind, but they never had both down.
ETA: I'd love to see Javier Fernandez try two quads in the SP.
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Without Android, iOS would have vastly bigger handset market share and slightly larger pad market share (due to Android's near total lack of iPad competitors.) And, ironically, Google would be making a lot more money too.
Google makes more money from iOS than they do from Android. Even now. Just imagine how much they would be making if they hadn't dumped Android onto the market...
um look at the facts you idiot... You really think apple would let google make more money by using ios ? Est tardus... Ignorance is bliss though so I guess that's why you live in your own little world
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Not sure why you are calling him an idiot when he is pretty much spot on with his comment.
Why would you be so harsh and randomly jump and call someone an idiot for something they wrote. Perhaps you should seek counseling. It seems as though you have anger issues. This a tech website not a place to go and rip people apart. So many people on these websites love to get so tough and verbal over little things. It's easy through a computer when your not in someone's face. I never comment on these things but I guess your the straw that broke the camels back. Get people skills dude.
There has been some speculation that Google makes more from iOS users than Android users; for now, let's grant it as true, because ultimately it is irrelevant to Google's motivations here. Google acquired Android not as a profit center itself, but to defend its service and ad revenue streams against being shut off by somebody else controlling the device chokepoint as users shifted more from the web to mobile. In iOS6, this is exactly what is happened, so it seems Google was wise here.
You probably would argue that Apple never would have done this had Google not released Android, but you can never be sure, not to the level a multibillion dollar business requires. In the 90s, Power Computing never thought Apple would try to revoke their license (eventually buying all assets of the company outright), but they did, almost immediately after Jobs returned. In the 2000s, IBM and Motorola never thought Apple would never abandon the PowerPC architecture right up until the point Apple did. Apple had good reasons for turning their back on those partners, and that is the entire point -- good reasons can and do crush partners.
Apple's motivations were not Power's motivations, were not IBM's motivations, and are not Google's motivations. When interests diverge, Apple is going to do what is best for Apple, as they should. The business who, without leverage, depends on another business always having perfectly aligned interests eventually gets kicked in the teeth, in the case of Power Computing, fatally.
Android positioned Google to avoid that fate, and, from that standpoint, Mountain View has to consider it a success, despite the current pain of evictions from iOS.
Now this assessment is spot on.
iOS 6 will be pretty much the same perhaps still have Google Maps and Youtube. Palm/WebOS would be alive. Nokia would be more successful and perhaps still rock Meego Symbian or whatever they call it. RIM would still be a hot mess. Perhaps Windows Phones 7 would be more show cased on three headed monster of Samsung, HTC and Moto.
I doubt iOS6 would be what it is today. The things that Google put into Android have been strong influences to the direction of iOS for the last 3 versions.
Apple would be even more dominant. It's really hard to say about Palm. Carriers without the iphone were dying for a slab substitute. Palm refused that route going with their crap plastic qwerty kb Pre. Android makers (HTC, Moto & Samsung) eventually filled the void, first on Sprint with the Hero and then with Droid on Verizon. Palm had no chance and yet for some reason kept trying to make a go with revisions of their qwerty plastic disaster.
With no android to speak of? It's possible the carriers would have influenced Palm to give them a slab. Google would also have probably supported them better. Licensing webOS becomes a consideration (but this is palm..and nobrainers were often puzzles for them). Rain down on carriers with webOS devices of all sizes and all of a sudden, it's android all over.
I think without Android iOS would be similar but it would have taken a lot more time to gain the new features it got in newer releases.
As for the primary competitor... I guess Windows Phone?
If Android never existed, the iPhone would suffer. Without Android, it is possible ios6 would still have Google Maps (though the same issues over control and air supply would still exist), but iOS would have had a 4 year period with no credible competition, and that would have been far worse.
A riding-high Apple got complacent once, and it nearly killed them. The disappearance of Android would not have made Palm, RIM, Nokia, or Microsoft any less mistake prone since 2007 - they would have still floundered, so, without Android, Apple would have faced effectively zero outside competitive pressure for half a decade.
For all the conventional wisdom that Apple learned that lesson, and that Jobs would never allow it to happen *again*, it is human nature to relax when not under pressure for that length of time. Android has been the sole external point applying pressure upon Apple to stay hungry, which has been a net boon for ios development over the last few years, and, more importantly, has ensured complacency has had no option to take root in Apple's culture.
Very well put. And very cohesively written comment.
Competition makes companies to constantly push what is possible. Blackberry failed in this aspect, and they let complacency take root. BB had virtually no competition especially on enterprise until iOS and Android came along. They got to fat and forgot what it means to run
On September 12h, we'll find out whether Apple has become "complacent" or not. Rumors are one thing. Released products in Apple's case, are often another.
Palm once ruled the roost growing up from the PDA days, and their only real competition at the time was WinCE / WinMob, which sucked. And the Treo was a very decent handset.
I think that if there was no Android, that Palm's WebOS would be the one Apple competes against. Their biggest problem, which lead to their complete collapse, was that with the market saturated with iPhones and Androids, the carriers didn't push Palm hard enough to make the handsets people actually wanted. The WebOS is/was fantastic, it was simply hobbled by bad hardware design.
I played around with the Pre when it eventually got to Verizon and I thought its UI was very elegantly done, it was even more intuitive than iOS. It's just that the screen was too small, the hardware keyboard was too small AND recessed in such a way that it was hard for me to use the keys at the edges.
If WebOS came on a handset the size of the OG Droid or iPhone, with or without a sliding keyboard, I think it would have been a very good unit and the market share between Palm and Apple would be close.
Not exactly. The real issue for Palm seemed to be money. They didn't have enough of it to really do well by webOS or the Pre. They seemed to have cut corners on the first Pre they put on Sprint and other launch carriers because they didn't have enough money. That really hurt them and just caused a downward spiral of them not getting enough return to push the updates to webOS that were needed to bring it to a fully stable state.
Not so. Success begets success. Had Palm done well by Sprint, they could have gotten more money. Let's not blame Sprint anymore or the fact they launched a few carriers at first. Android did the same thing. Apple did the same thing. This was needed.
But let's focus on that Sprint launch being what it was. A failure. The launch started off great. The hype at the beginning was great. The product? Not so much. The hardware sucked. And webOS was too slow & buggy.
A premium slab form factor would have done wonders for people to accept webOS the way it was. This isn't hindsight. It was just as obvious then. Yet there was something about the Pre form factor that they should have continued with the idea as a niche phone to a main slab phone. The Pixi was all she wrote. I think I sold any stock I had when I heard about it.
You say money? Explain the Pixi. Explain the Veer when Palm DID get money via HP. The list goes on a mile long.
I didn't blame Sprint. If you had seen the issues, the QA issues, with the first Pre you'd understand what I was talking about.
We can only guess what HP let them use the money for but it seems HP only looked at phones as an after thought and was instead driving for tablet development.
this is it. palm was down, they came out with a product, but too many other people (Android) did at the same time, and without the money to go a couple of rounds it didn't last. I bet palm and M$ would be the major competitors.
Being like what everyone had become used to -iOS- droid was the os that took off. Blackberry's touchscreen was limited, clunky, didn't work, and was not for me.
Plus, I think people didn't like the BB network. not only did you have to deal with the cellular network, it could and did go down making your device useless even when you have service. Not to mention you had to double pay for data. Of course, you are paying as much now, but you are actually using more, and doing more. Imagine paying the more and the BB fee.
If Android had never been invented, I wouldn't hear as many friends bitch about how much they hate their Android phones. lol
You'd still here them complaining about their feature phone, BB, WinMo because, let's face it, the only bad Android phones are the cheap ones that are put out there as low hanging fruit.
Without Android IOS wouldn't have anything to follow. I spent 2 years with an iPhone 4. Its a great phone if you don't know what you're doing with a phone. Just turn it on and there it is. IOS 6 will finally have a few of the things Android has had for years. And not the good stuff.. It will finally get its own maps ( Which we all know will be crap to start out. I mean lets be honest. Nothing is ever great fresh off the line). It will finally get signatures on email. Etc etc.. Just as that is all coming out Android is continuing to move on to bigger and better things. Which of course Apple will follow the following year. Not bashing Apple. Its just the truth. Who knows. Even though I just switched back to a galaxy S3. When the new iPhone comes out it might be worth the cost to move back. But for now the iPhone is just following Android.
If Google does in fact make more money from iOS than Android, then it's no wonder that Apple removed Google Maps from iOS, but Apple can't bar every Google service from iOS because that would be anti-competitive and the Gov would come down on them for that. It's in Google's best interest for iOS use to continue to grow and unfortunately, Apple can't bar everything Google from iOS. So in a strange way, that makes them partners. How ironic.
When you take google off the OS side of things, that's effectively removing them. Yes, Google can live in the app store but millions won't go there.
did apple finally approve of the google voice app?
Will apple allow push to google apps?
I hope so. They will be the big bully if people can say my google apps are ruining my battery life. Especially if there battery life is lower with only the new OS. i.e. the app didn't drain the battery when it was integrated
Argh... I hate when I see android trolls on the daily android sites I visit, and same applies to Apple trolls here and on other Apple sites I visit daily. Trust me, many people are fully capable of being both Android fans "and" Apple fans. End rant here and I apologize if I come across as being harsh.
My background: Own two iMacs, Macbook Pro, iPad, iPod, and had every iPhone through the 3GS. So yes, I am huge Apple fan but made the jump to Android about 2 years ago and have no plans (unless Apple makes drastic changes to iOS) to go back to an iPhone.
Now to the question: IMHO iOS has improved greatly thanks to Android. Just look at the notification system we have now. While I can admit Android has been influenced by Apple nobody can deny Apple took their new notification system from Android. It's not as polished but it is still a great new feature (now I can only hope they also borrow Androids quick settings so I don't have to jailbreak my iPad and use SBSettings).
I also still say that Androids voice actions, voice search, etc. has been in place and fully functioning for years (in other words "before" siri). There are more influences Apple has incorporated but those are my main two...
I think we'd see a very different landscape, with Palm's webOS being the primary beneficiary. I think what people are forgetting is that while, yes, the Sprint Palm Pre was a bit of a disaster due to quality control, the Pre+ launched on Verizon less than a year later, and was the phone the Pre should have been. Verizon ordered a whole mess of them, and it looked great for Palm at that point. At the last minute before launch, Verizon fell in love with the Droid, and instead of throwing its marketing muscle into the Pre+, it did so with the Droid ... which launched the day before the Pre+. Verizon ended up sending a bunch of Pre+ units BACK to Palm because they didn't want to sell them anymore. If you went into the VZW stores around that time, you couldn't get a salesperson to even talk about webOS. They *only* wanted to sell Droids. IF that marketing and sales muscle had instead gone toward the Pre+, the phone would have sold much better. And, IF more Pre+ units would have sold, we would have seen more updated handsets and more variety in them. Palm (and later HP) were working on that slab phone with webOS. Palm didn't have the money to pull it off, and HP wasn't interested.


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Need help with options for streaming music. Is there a site like Netflix where you can pay a monthly fee to get music of your choice?
New to streaming so I need a little help on sites and prices.
I've seen ads for unlimited Rhapsody on G4 lately. You don't own it but can download as much as you want. As far as free streamers, I've been using Slacker for a long time. That's all I know off hand.
I want something I can put into my HT room. I thought they might sell a device I can plug up to my receiver or pre and pay a monthly fee and get unlimited music without having to deal with a computer.
Uh....Xm/Sirius? Sirius has a higher resolution format available for $3 more a month.
I've heard of Pandora but have never used it.
Pandoras good and pandora1 is the pay service with high res but you cant choose freely what songs you wana hear
Does apple make anything like that?
you should check last.fm too....
it's a little different than pandora. You can monitor your music listening from winamp or from itunes.... (or wiindows media player for that matter). Then it can make recommendations for you to listen to. It also identifies the 50 closest neighbors that you have based on musical "scrobbling". You can listen to anyone else's station you choose and "scrobble" their station - which adds the songs that it plays from their station to your's.
all very complicated but quite easy and simple too.
can't vouch for the quality though -- i'll assume it's 128kb flash (at best)
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If you don't have anything currently that streams music, (i.e. TV, BRP, AVR) - you might want to check into a Squeezebox.
This will initially need a PC to setup, but once everything is set, you don't need to use the PC anymore. This will allow you to stream your own music from your PC (if you desire) - otherwise it will allow you to stream any of the above listed items with the exception of Serius/XM
Basically the squeezebox is a wireless player, that connects directly to your network, so it IS your computer. I've got the Duet, which has a little 3"x4" black wireless router that connects via Optical (or digital coaxial) to my receiver. I use it in place of an actual CD player.
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I'm not sure what state of mind I was in earlier, but I completely thought your OP said that you wanted to get music without your PC (which is why I went the SB direction)
But I will give a huge +1 for Pandora. It's free for the basic, well worth a shot. You tell it a song or artist you like, and it goes from there. Then you can add other artists, or like/dislike songs/artists and it will learn your preferences.
There are commercials every ~30 minutes or so, and you are limited to 40 hours a month for free. If you upgrade to the P+, you get higher bitstream, commercial free, and its' only .99 a month (might be like $15 for the year, I remember month-to-month was cheaper for some odd reason)
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Another option if you can get a group of people in on it is Simplify Media. It allows you to stream your music library to iPhone or computer PLUS share your library with up to 30 friends (and they can do likewise). They don't get to copy the music but simply stream it.
I second/third grooveshark...
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You are aware that most streaming sites especially the free one's, stream heavily compressed music. It's nice for background or parties but leaves a lot to be desired if you are looking for something high quality. The possible exception being Sirrus but then you pay more for that.
I understand not everything in this hobby has to be spectacular sound, but what I'm getting at is either buy something multi-purpose like a Squeezebox or don't spend a lot on the device or service when it's very mediocre to begin with.
Many of the new DVDp that stream netflix also stream Pandora.
P.s. Your cable company most likely has Music Choice available as part of your std package. I stream that often for background
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Grooveshark has fairly decent audio quality, at least on par with Pandora if not better. I wouldn't do "critical" listening with either, but i'm certainly not annoyed with the quality. I'm usually just cranking these when i'm cleaning/making dinner anyways. That said, my system is also VERY forgiving, which is something i wanted, since most of the bands that i like, have their cds recorded in a very terrible fashion. :tongue:
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Pandora1 is 192kbps - but not all devices get that high quality signal - ie. if you're streaming from a computer or iPhone you'll get it. But you'll only get 128kbps from a Squeezebox.
Also, you can't just choose songs on Pandora - but after using the thumbs up / down feature, it does a great job picking songs. My 'Tears for Fears' station ends up playing stuff from the 80s to now - 90% of it great songs.
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What about XM? Polk had a really nice player, the XRt12. The can be had for $75-150. IMO, they sound excellent.
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There are quite a few decent streaming services that have been mentioned here already, but not a lot of good ways to listen, when you aren't at your computer. That's where a device like a Squeezebox, or Apple TV will come in handy. I haven't yet used Apple TV, but have a couple of Squeezeboxes connected, and I have also used an Apple Airport Express to stream music. The limitation with Apples devices (Airport Express and Apple TV), is that you can typically only stream stuff that is in iTunes. iTunes also has to be running in order to use them. The nice thing is you can use an iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad, or the Apple TV remote to control them.
IMO, the Squeezebox is a much more flexible option especially, if you are looking at doing streaming in more than one room.
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Leroy, I was thinking of ordering another Apple TV for another bedroom I just finished, if you want to cover shipping you are welcomed to demo it if you already have a Mac in the house.
I listen to pandora too. It is within the avr, however aforementioned it is limited to a bitrate of 128kbs. It is really great for background. I just learned about the pandora1 just now. If the pandora1 steps up to 192kbs that would be much better. But gosh thats just another bill! LOL
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I've been using Pandora lateley as well. The free version.
I don't notice any quality issues, but I'm usually working when I'm listening.
Only complaint is every dozen or so songs, it pops up with the "Are you still listening" box
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A program that pays retired Henrico school system employees a percentage of their final annual salaries in exchange for their part-time work within the system saves considerable money on substitute teacher expenses but could provide even more value to the system with several adjustments.
That was the conclusion of an in-depth analysis completed by county and school system finance officials, who presented their findings to the School Board Sept. 13.
At the beginning of the current fiscal year in July, the board increased the requirements of retirees who participate in the Post-Retirement Earnings Plan (PREP) program, mandating that they work at least 28 days during the school year in order to receive pay equal to 20 percent of their final annual paychecks. Eligible retirees may participate in the program for a maximum of seven years; 388 participate currently.
It was the third change made in the past three years by the board, which is seeking to squeeze more value from the 32-year-old program while reducing its annual cost. The PREP budget has dropped from its peak of $8.9 million in 2009 to $5.6 million during the current fiscal year. Prior to this year's change, PREP participants received 22 percent of their final paycheck in exchange for working 24 days a year.
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Though it's relatively easy to determine the cost savings that results from using PREP retirees as substitute teachers – since there is a standard rate of pay for substitutes – it's much more difficult to determine the value of administrative retirees who perform a variety of other responsibilities, Henrico Finance Director Gene Walter told the School Board.
Walter and his staff studied 507 PREP participants who entered the program during the past seven years and whose replacements were hired immediately upon their retirement. (The study didn't include nearly 50 other participants whose former positions were eliminated, he said.)
Of those 507, 317 were retired teachers whose combined participation during those seven years saved the system $1.18 for each $1 it spent on the program, Walter said.
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On campus: 6 x all day workshops; Off campus: there is no requirement for any on campus presence, all online work can be done at times to suit yourself.
Online teaching methods require internet access. Please refer to the most current computer specifications.
This unit aims to develop understandings about health equity and human rights as a coherent frame of action to tackle inequities and to improve health and wellbeing, and to develop a working knowledge of practical approaches for public health and health system actions to address health inequities and rights violations, and to promote social justice. Topics to be addressed in this unit include: health equity debates; conventions and legal frameworks for human rights; strategies of public health, primary health care and health promotion to promote equity and rights, and specific issues such as diversity and difference, mental health and human rights, children's rights and health equity, asylum and refugee health, and HIV/AIDS.
Country report (2000 words) 30%; presentation on country report (10%), project report (3000 words) 60%
Prescribed texts
Taket, A (2012) Health Equity, Social Justice and Human Rights. Abingdon: Routledge
Unit Fee Information
|Student Contribution Rate*
|Student Contribution Rate**
|Fee rate - Domestic Students
|Fee rate - International students
* Rate for all CSP students, except for those who commenced Education and Nursing units pre 2010
** Rate for CSP students who commenced Education and Nursing units pre 2010
Please note: Unit fees listed do not apply to Deakin Prime students.


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