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AT&T not allowing upgrade prices for early iPhone 4 adopters?
As of right now, it appears as though AT&T will not be honoring upgrade prices for the iPhone 4S to early iPhone 4 adopters. In the past, early adopters have been able to purchase the new iPhone at the upgrade price even though their account wasn't technically available for an upgrade yet.
I purchased the iPhone 4 on the day of release, but when checking my availability for the iPhone 4S from Apple's website, I'm presented with the following prices:
Before November 25, 2011:
- iPhone 4S: 16GB - $449
- iPhone 4S: 32 GB - $549
- iPhone 4S: 64GB - $649
- iPhone 4: 8GB - $349
- iPhone 3GS: 8GB - $199
The prices listed for after November 25 are the same prices that Apple announced earlier today: $199, $299, $399, $99, and $0.
If history repeats itself, AT&T will come to their senses and move the upgrade dates to October 14. This is normal behavior for them: send customers into a panic, then change their minds at the last minute. However, there is still the possibility of them sticking to their guns and not budging with their prices.
If AT&T sticks with these prices, will you still be lining up to essentially pay a $250 fee to purchase the iPhone 4S 42 days sooner?
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I bought my iPhone4 on the first day as well, and my upgrade date is Feb 26th! Might threaten them with killing contract and jumping to Verizon.
Lol i might do the exact same thing..
Anyone know if Verizon can do voice & data at the same time yet? I have not kept track, nor do I know if that dual antenna thing announced today helps.
No they CANNOT!
Threatening with contract termination will likely have no effect. I worked AT&T customer care for 1.5 years. During my time there anyone adjusting anything to discount an iPhone would be fired and escorted from the building. This included waiving the upgrade fee, something we could do with other phones under certain circumstances. You may get a deal on another phone, but they won't budge on the iPhone.
Mine account shows the same thing except my upgrade prices are after November 30th. I guess it makes sense since I bought my iPhone 4 probably a week after the launch.
It's not about that because I bought mine later than you. Some other comments have mentioned being the primary or your overall charges.
Mine says Nov 19 for some reason. Purchased iphone 4 on the first day.
Agree, AT&T should give us the same consideration when it was 12 months in. Why not now at 16?
Exactly. I thought you are entitled to 1 upgrade every year (12 months)?! Now I can't get an iPhone 4S the day it comes out, over a year later? You suck ATT. I've been with you since iPhone 1.
deff not spending extra
Word; there's a 24GB iPhone 4S?
If the iPhone 4S is available unlocked at launch... that is how I will buy it so I don't really care about early upgrade prices. I wouldn't be buying it from AT&T anyway. I want it unlocked.
You are missing the point. It is cheaper to terminate and start a new contract with Verizon than buy it at that price.
Fandroid... missing the point? Shock me ;)
I got mine launch day, and my upgrade date was 11/18/2011, until a few days ago when it changed to 02/28/2012!!! I called and emailed AT&T, because I had an email where they said my upgrade date was 11/18 (I was asking them to move it to mid-October).
Doesn't matter to me. I'm not spending full upgrade price on a half-baked upgraded phone anyway. I'll wait for iPhone 5 TYVM!
So if it had just been the same phone inside a different case you'd have jumped at it? I too was disappointed, but honestly the specs would have been the specs either way.
Granted I'm not in the camp that needs 4"+ to see my phone... I'd rather have the superior smaller display and not have to look like a major tool with a bag phone in my pocket. (but thats just me, I can see why some might want the larger real-estate)
I wouldn't have jumped at it even if it was the same specs in a slicker form factor. It's simply not enough to warrant the full upgrade price. If Steve was here, he'd say that this is most definitely a D+ upgrade. .....Oh who am I kidding. He'd spin it in a positive light.
I do agree with you on screen size. Despite what Ron Jeremy told all the Fandroids, size does not matter. Give me a crisp clean display any day of the week.
Which my Evo has and is larger too...
I know people who have Evos.....the screens look washed out and less vibrant. So keep your head in the sand. It doesn't matter to me.
If Steve was here? You know he's been out barely a month right? And that this has been planned for a year? There's no way that this whole thing didn't go exactly as he planned, especially considering he's still running the company from the board, if not "officially" as CEO.
you know he's dead right.... just saying.
Most of the people who are upset/disappointed about the 4S were looking forward to a bigger screen, not the casing/design.
agreed exact same product they showed today with a 4 inch screen would have been better. Not great, special or innovated but better. i also don't think it helps that every phone carrier has now done away with yearly upgrades because not if you buy you're stuck with it. Even if they launch an 4 inch iphone 5 lte version next june. You can't get it without forking over you're first born. And i'm not the type that just buys phones. i've only had one smartphone ever. and three mobile phones ever.
My upgrade is on Nov 17th. For the Iphone. I was disappointed in the 4S not having a bigger screen, so I picked up a Samsung galaxy SII.They let me have it at the upgrade price even though I still had a month and some change left...
I don't think you Americans understand how lucky you are. In Canada we are stuck on 3 year contracts, no early upgrade fees of any kind, only 100$ credits towards a new phone after 2 years, and carriers that change your "upgrade" date at their convenience.
Also on AT&T will deff be switching to sprint if they do not offer the lower upgrade price ( received iPhone 4 on release date) idiots! now that the phone is a true world phone on more carriers you would think they would want to make existing customers HAPPY
I got my iPhone 4 on release and the Apple site shows I'm eligible for a upgrade to the 4S at the normal discounted price on launch. My wife isn't eligible for upgrade pricing until Feb 16th and she got hers on release as well. My line is the primary line on the account, hers is a secondary.
Screenshot or it never happened: http://yfrog.com/nzrol7p
same here. i was told its because im not the primary line on the account (im on a family plan). at least someone else on the plan is due for an upgrade :)
Totally bogus by ATT. My wife and I both have an iPhone 4 on a family plan. We were both out of contract when we upgraded and I ordered BOTH phones on launch day. My upgrade is Feb 25, my wife is March 4. I was not actually planning on upgrading either way, but what a cluster#### by ATT.
BS reply from ATT. I have two iphone 4 on a family plan (one is the primary), both ordered on launch day and neither line is eligible before Feb 25.
Sell your 4 on eBay and you will be able to get the 4S just fine. That's what I did to get the 4
I called *639# to check my eligibility with ATT .... I got the 3GS on launch. Early upgrade for 4.... Says I'm good to go Oct 14 for the 4S.... I have 4 lines and pay over $200 a month for service. ATT has told me in the past because of how much I spend I'm good for an upgrade yearly.
Can anyone tell me what the $250 price is for in this message?? Does this mean I have to pay $250 just to buy the phone at $399 (iphone 4S, 64GB) or is this the price I pay for the phone as an upgrade or what??
"A full discount on a standard device or iPhone upgrade is not available at this time but you may qualify on 11/25/2011. We can offer you a discounted iPhone upgrade at 2-yr commitment pricing $250 along with a new 2-yr commitment and an $18 upgrade fee. Please visit a participating iPhone sales location for pricing on this offer."
you only have to wait a month more and with the way it usually is you might not be able to get one till a few weeks after its release date
my upgrade is Jan '12, 18 months after my contract started
Nope. I bought my iPhone 4 nine minutes into pre-orders. Nothing wrong with it. If I don't get the upgrade price, I'll just wait until I can.
I've been eligible for an upgrade all year it seems even after buying an iphone 4 on launch day. Oh well, i'll take it. Other lines say feb 2012 though.
Mine is exactly the same
How did you check the upgrade prices. When I visit the AT&T site, they still only show me the old iPhone 4 pricing.
go to the 4S page and check eligibility
Your icon....maybe..?
Bought the iPhone 4 on launch date and fully eligible for the discounted prices. There are enough changes to get me to buy the 4S keep me happy until the 5 comes out.
Not to be a troll, but I pre-ordered my iphone 4, and got it day 1. I am also eligible for an early upgrade on the iPhone 4S ($199, $299, $399), so this DOESN'T apply to everyone...
Same here. I got mine on launch day and have been eligible for an upgrade for a while. My family plan's monthly bill is $200+. It might be based on that.
It is definitely based on monthly bill price as I got my iPhone 4 on the 1st day but pay much less a month and I am not eligible until 11/18/2011.
My family bill is almost $300 AND I am out of contract with a 3GS yet they won't give me anything but full price $449. I guess ATT is confused about how much money I can save by switching carriers. I have been a customer for 10 years so none of their pricing makes any sense at all.
Only other thing I can think is those on the old unlimited plan are the ones not being offered early upgrades. ATT would do anything to get rid of those.
If you only have to pay $449 then you are lucky. I have to buy it Unlocked ($649) if I want it because apparently I'm not due for an upgrade until June 2012.
@beefalo -- So tell us the magic you worked? Do you have unlimited data, text, and minutes? Did you called AT&T to even ask a question about anything since 6/24/2010?
ive had unlimited everything for at&t with family pack since iphone 3 came out and they arent allowing me to do an early upgrade either =/
Same here. And I have the unlimited data plan, so that doesn't appear to be a factor. I am on a family plan, and my wife and I purchased the 3G about a month before the 3GS came out (we had no idea, not being smart phone users at the time, that the new phone was coming out). When iPhone 4 came out, I was eligible for the upgrade but my wife was not. Since we bought our phones at the same time, we just figured the primary account holder was the only one eligible for early upgrades. Now we are both eligible for the 4S, even though I got the iPhone 4 as an early upgrade. So... I dunno.
I got my iphone 4 the day it came out and that was the first time I purchased a phone under contract since 2008 when I got a sony ericsson. Now why is it that my upgrade isn't until Feb29 2012?? I hate ATT. I'm under a family plan and my mom has been a customer since 2003. Why in the world do I have to pay 440 and can't upgrade like you all can in November? I don't get it. Were probably going to move all four of our lines to Verizon where it's cheaper for the family. Att will lose a lot of customers over this.
November is one month after the launch of this phone, AT&T would be stupid to hold out for a month and lose customers who want this phone immediately. As stated in other posts, it would be cheaper to cancel your contract with AT&T and switch to Verizon OR Sprint ($79 unlimited everything plan!!). I'd like to keep AT&T so I hope they bend the rules once again for their largest group of customers.
I got my iphone4 on launch day and it says I'm eligible for discount pricing.
One thing to remember is upgrade eligibility depends on how much you pay per month. If it is over $100, then you can upgrade each year.
I pay over $100, and have the tethering plan, but am not eligible until December. I bought the iPhone 4 3 weeks after launch.
Consider yourself lucky - I bought mine on launch day and I don't get the upgrade pricing until February.
Do you know why? My early upgrade date is also in Feb even though I bought it on launch day.
I wish I knew. If all else fails I'll have to order it on another line we have and then stop by AT&T to have the sim card transferred to my line. I intend to contact AT&T though and see if they'll just give me the upgrade price on my line instead.
Got my 4 on first day and just checked via Apple site and it says I'm eligible for upgrade pricing.
So what's the issue? When your contract is up get it then. Or switch carriers. Or pay the ETF & switch carriers. In the end you get a new phone no matter what path you take.
VZW is giving you the off contract pricing. AT&T is still giving you discount - just not the full discount you would get for renewing.
So, if those are off contract prices, will the phone still be locked to Verizon or would I be able to use it with any carrier?
AT&T can make a brilliant move or a dumb move right now. The iPhone 4S is also a CDMA phone, which means if they force users to wait out their contracts, they could very well lose customers to Sprint, Verizon or another network. Many users have complained about AT&T's coverage in some areas. Now, other options are available. Since the all iPhone 4 contracts will start expiring on Nov 25th, all a current customer has to do is wait 40 days and switch to another network without any fees. If AT&T is smart, they'll offer the low upgrade price to any current AT&T customer irregardless of their original purchase date. This will lock in current customers for another 2 years, thus trapping a lot of customers that may otherwise jump ship. I'd be shocked if AT&T forces people to run their contracts out before upgrading at the low cost. That'd be like something the government would do.
I'm eligible, my wife is not. We both bought our iPhone 4's on "opening day" - but I was an AT&T customer prior to that (we moved her over from Sprint). Maybe that's why?
Thank god, I'll be a new customer, so I'll get the prices Apple promoted. :)
I just stopped by my local AT&T Store to get a new SIM card for my 3GS since my iPhone 4 died the other day, and the salesman there and also the manager at a different AT&T store I visited yesterday BOTH told me I qualified for the lowest tier pricing, or in other words, it appears I am fully eligible for the early upgrade price, and not the prices you outlined above.
They also told me that from now on, however, ALL iPhone contracts have been extended to 20 months and they both also stated that apparently the iPhone plans will no longer be eligible for early upgrade terms in the future.
Shut your mouth!
are those prices (4, 5 600 dollar ones) with a 2 year contract?
There might be a little entitlement on our part, but looking at it through a business standpoint, you can reel in people who's contracts may be over in a few months and tie them down to another 2 years by offering them a chance to get the iphone 4s sooner than later. If u give costumers a chance to think about the fact that they may not need the iphone 4s then they may not renew their contract when it comes time and greater the chance for them to leave and now choose from 2 other phone companies that may end up cheaper for them. So if ATT is clever they will allow customers to upgrade in turn renew their contracts sooner. If they don't then that's on them and they risk the possibility of losing customers. And not for nothing but u tell me if you like to be told what to do with your phone.
Hell No! Lol
I won't be lining up to pay $250. Instead, I'll wait...'cause it's a phone.
yeah i got the verizon iphone on day one. since i'm on a family contract, i can take everyone elses upgrades. we're eligable for an upgrade now, but i think i wanna wait for the five to come out
Not going to happen. Here is a response from AT&T.http://www.tekgoblin.com/2011/10/04/att-not-allowing-early-upgrade-to-ip...
Same thing happened last year. The Apple site shows the wrong prices. Check the AT&T website to see if you are eligible.
Love Apple products (have 6 ios devices in my house) but AT&T is really starting to get on my last nerves. Funck them if they don't alow the early upgrade. I'll wait 6 months or better yet give Sprint a try.
No upgrade for me until 11/25. I'll just play around with iOS 5, iCloud and iTunes Match until then.
I don't see where you are getting the november 25, 2011 date. I bought my iPhone 4 day it came out as well and can not upgrade till February 25, 2012...
Same here. Launch day iPhone 4. No upgrade until Feb 25, 2012
I also have 11/25 as my upgrade date and I also got the ip4 on launch day... It's only a month so i'll wait it out
If you have a family plan, you could just add an extra phone onto your plan for $10 a month and let someone else use it (or charge them $5 a month and have it subsidize your plan). I think I might do this if they don't open it up...
Not 10$ but more of at least 25$ as you have to get data...
I hope AT&T doesn't do anything....they shouldn't.
I was an early adopter of the iPhone 4. I preordered it and I am eligible for an upgrade at the subsidized pricing. Not sure what your issue is.
Leanna, those ARE discounted prices. They may not be new contract prices, but they are discounted by $200.
As far as I'm concerned, AT&T can take a leap. I'm going back to Sprint for their unlimited plan at a much better price than AT&T or Verzion will ever offer.
First intelligent argument to switch so far.
Maybe they're counting on the fact that people can't really be such sheep that they'll pay termination fees to go buy it somewhere else a few days earlier. Unfortunately, from what I've seen, they may be wrong.
obvious troll is obvious.
Bought iPhone 4 on launch day and my fully subsidized upgrade date is November 21. I will wait until then for my 4S unless AT&T changes the date. If it was more than 3 months, I'd pay the extra to get the 4S on launch. The iPhone is really the only big indulgence I allow myself, so when I have to pay a little extra I'm not too bothered.
If you go to the apple store online you can check your eligibility there, I did and it states that I can get the 16g for 199 and so on...
Sprint is also in the picture now, so AT&T is not the only player and also Sprint has unlimited data and messaging...may be enough to pull some away. Also the pricing for plans is cheaper for families. Not sure what the coverage is like....but AT&T, with the setting the stage for allowing early upgrades, may want to do so again. It's $250 more, by the losses can be thousands of dollars when people leave. I see it both ways, but am looking at it from a customer service perspective.
I was getting the same message about bring eligible after 11/25/2011. Now it has since change me being eligible right now!
I am buying unlocked this time. I know it costs a lot more, but I am sick and tired of worrying about my baseband everytime I update the os, jailbreak, etc.
I got my iPhone 4 as a pre-order that was shipped to me from AT&T on the 1st day they were out for $299, and they say I'm not eligible for an upgrade until Feb 24, 2012. My wife got her iPhone 4 on the same day but at an Apple Store, and she's eligible for an upgrade now.
Makes no sense to me, since she didn't get her first 3GS until Feb 24, 2010, and I got my 1st 3GS in June 2009 (and then my iPhone 4 just 12 months later at the full discount).
In spite of this policy on paper somewhere in att land, we still see breaks when people go to lengths of pain with CSRs from time to time.
I love it when a big company plops out a chunk of paperwork to quell someone in the moment.
That's a bummer! I bought my iPhone 4 in mid August and it says that I am totally eligible for upgrade. I wonder if the plan I started 5 years ago had anything about 1 year upgrades in it cause it's always been that way for me, regardless of apple's special promotions.
my upgrade is nov 19, i called last week to see if my upgrade date could be pushed back, and they said call and ask for a manager after release details are announced. so i called this morning (oct 5) at 8 am est, and while the cust serv rep said they will prob not do it, but she would transfer me to a manager anyway. the manager got on and told me that it was up to upper management and she just needed to put in a request which would most likley go through. she said it is supposed to take 72 hrs but most of the time its approved in a few hours. im waiting on her to call me back with the response from upper management. fingers crossed. heres hoping. :)
The same thing happened to me but I haven't got a call back yet. I think everyone should call and complain.
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AT&T should be ashamed of themselves. Their upgrade policy should balance time served under an existing contract AND past customer loyalty. In my case, I have purchased each and every one of the previous 4 iphone models from ATT on launch day, and my monthly payments are always on time with autopay. ATT needs to give reliable, loyal customers a lot of love, not a lot of grief. AT&T is nothing more than a bunch of mindless corporate flunkeys following rules rather than following reason.
I bought the iPhone 4 at release and I just checked my availability and it gave me apples announced prices...would it be because I have a Premier account?
I'm Premier, and not eligible yet... 11/18
My wife and I both got an iPhone 4 at preorder. Both of us are eligible to upgrade with a new contract. Weird that our dates got bumped up.
I checked yesterday and say this myself. This worries me because does that mean that when the iPhone 6 comes out next June (hopefully) that they wont do early upgrades. This isnt wise on their part because like Dan below said tight now it would cost thesame for people to just terminate their contracts and switch to Verizon. And I honestly might consider doing that. give me a reason to stick around AT&T
I checked yesterday and saw this myself. This worries me because does that mean that when the iPhone 6 comes out next June (hopefully) that they wont do early upgrades. This isnt wise on their part because like Dan below said tight now it would cost thesame for people to just terminate their contracts and switch to Verizon. And I honestly might consider doing that. give me a reason to stick around AT&T
I checked on my phone by calling *639# and I am eligible for an upgrade. I also checked the ATT site https://www.att.com/phoneupgrade/? and I am eligible for an upgrade. I have bought all the iPhones on the day they came out since 2007. Where did you go to find this info?
I called AT&T, they won't budge on the upgrade. They said they are following 'apple mandates' and don't want to upset apple. I brought up the fact that this happened previously, like when everyone started hating on AT&T on twitter and she said that would likely have to happen again to get the upgrade moved. So, I say we all get the interwebs in a hizzy and see if we can get our upgrade early again.
I got the 4 on day 1 and it says I have to wait until 11/18. even threatened to switch to sprint. No go.
The website still hasnt been updated, but if you send *639# on your AT&T iPhone it will tell your real eligibility status. I bought my iphone 4 first day as well and I go the "As a valued customer, we can offer you an upgrade with a new 2-year contract and an 18$ upgrade fee). Which means I'm good to go. I called At&t to confirm and she said I'm eligible. So don't believe the website.
This is odd. I bought my iPhone 4 on Sept 4/5, 2010 and I was able to upgrade on Sept 5, 2011.
Entitlement? AT&T allowed early upgrades as long as you're an iphone user purchasing a new iphone. That was their idea, and it's been like that for the past 4 years. Now they change it and screw everyone that has been loyal to them, and you say that's a sense of entitlement?
Is there any update on this Leanna? Do you expect that AT&T will do a last minute change like before? There's only 13 hours left before ordering starts.
So glad there are other carriers that would welcome my business.
No, we will be canceling our AT&T service and moving carriers since this was their only perk.
Ok, Here is a fix..it worked for me. Kind of dishonest, but here you go. Every year my wife and I order the iphone and get it on launch day. This year for whatever reason, my line is not eligibile for upgrade until February, while hers (The main line) is eligible for upgrade immediately. I spent about 2 hours each day last week from tuesday-thursday trying to get someone at At&t Customer service to change it.
Well, then I got a bright idea. At&t says you can check your upgrade status by pushing *639# from your iphone then hitting call. As soon as you get a message that reads, "Thank you, your request is being processed. A message will be sent to your phone." Take a screen shot, push the top power button and home button at the same time. This will save that photo to your camera roll. Then you'll get a text from 108 (which is at&t). It'll say your not eligibile for a full iphone upgrade at this time, however they can offer you one at either for retail or at $449.
Type this message into the response to that
As a valued customer, we can offer you an upgrade with a new 2-yr commitment and an $18 upgrade fee.
You will get a response on another message saying invalid number. Delete that.
So when you go to your text messages, you should have a message from 108 that says
As a valued customer, we can offer you an upgrade with a new 2-yr commitment and an $18 upgrade fee.
Next I would call customer service and explain the message. Offer to email them the message (I wouldnt email that one as it will show you sent it) I would do some photoshopping of the photo before you send it to them. Anyhow just see if they think if you go into an AT&T store to verify the message that they will give make your line eligible to upgrade at the $199 price.
Next go to the At&t store, try and get someone young and cool to view and document the message on your At&t account. Once they do, come back later and ask to pre order the iphone 4s. Tell them someone at AT&T documented your account of your message you received from ATT and that you need to get your upgrade over road at the store per Att Business Relations.This worked for me..please report your results on this message board. I was able to pre order my iphone on friday morning (I was the first person in the At&t store, they didnt even check my phone for the message again.
(The beauty of this all is, when you call into customer support, they can actually check and see if att sent you a message at the time that you claim, it will show they did, but they cant view what it says, so your story is alot more plausable).
Another option is to have someone you know who is eligibile for the upgrade sent the *639# request to att at the same time as you. When they get their message that shows they are available for an upgrade, have them text it to you, and save the screenshot on your phone to show att.
Your last option is to pay either the early upgrade fee of $250 or pay full retail. Either of which I could of done, I just think that for my wife's line to be upgradeable and mine to not be was unfair. We both got our phones on the same day. I know we were both under the same contract on the same account, but I'm supprised it is not discrimmatory to allow some to upgrade and not others.
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i assume lloyd's words (double checker, double bind and such) meant that he was casting a spell. slately's fall (regedit, and again, assuming regedit was archons disabling the jetpack) happened after lloyd completed the spell (again, assuming his words meant a spell cast).
this makes me think that the "clone" , "secondary", "whatever u call it" is the one whose jetpack was regedited by archons and fell down.
however, in the last panel, Lloyd says "s-sure", which, i believe, implies uncertainty. what does that mean, exactly? does it mean that he lacks COMPLETE control over that spell?
I would like to point out that the Slatley that didn't fall down gloats on how he's now twice as strong/fast/etc, and then thanks to the dittomancer for having been created that way.
That's why he changes from struggling to suddenly going around croaking archons left and right. He's an improved copy of the original Slatley.
That's also why it is completely borked if he's permanent even if the original dies. Jetstone could've just gone around creating copies of their top units that are twice as good as before, then killing the original to make the improved duplicate stick. Rise and repeat every turn as the dittomancer recovers his juice (no, it is not expensive because he had already used a lot of juice over the turn and could still pull this of). Oh, and fully duplicate wargear on those units since you're at it.
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iOS 5.1 magically adds 4G to your AT&T iPhone
If you've updated your AT&T iPhone to iOS 5.1, you may have noticed that the signal indicator in the top-left now reads 4G instead of 3G. Now, before your mind gets blown all over the place, there's no actual upgrade here; it's just your garden-variety marketing doucherosity wriggling its slimy way into a software update.
AT&T could not possibly abide by competitors have more or higher-quality "Gs" than they do, so they've had Apple arbitrarily change the wording of the signal indicator. They've apparently been trying to do this for months, though why Apple caved is still hard to understand.
Of course, the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) has made it so that carriers can do this without repercussion. They're allowing HSPA+ 14.4 and faster networks to be called 4G right alongside 72mbps and faster LTE networks, and they've ruined any practical use of talking in terms of 3G or 4G networks; in fact, AT&T has already been taking plenty of advantage of this opportunity with Android devices.
Yes, as we joked and feared, AT&T has beaten Apple to create a 4G iPhone.
So welcome to the world of 4G, AT&T iPhone owners. Do you feel faster? Does simply seeing "4G" on your home screen make you feel more in the future?
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Lightning fast. I cant wait to get throttled even sooner now.
Greatest comment ever.
LMAO - fantastic.
fantastic comment
LMAO.. You made my day =))
LOL. Awesome comment.
Lightning fast??? When?
iPhone 4s radio-modem has Only maximum speed of 14.4 max but you can't reach it even you are connected to a 42mbps hspa+ by tmobile (if the iPhone has aws)…
I had iPhone 4s with AT&T till last week of January and been travelled to Texas,new York and California and the fastest I saw in speedtest.net was 8mbps, then right now I have GALAXY NEXUS in Verizon and I saw some speedtest here in Texas - 42mbps down & 15mbps up but on iPhone 4s who has modem of ONLY 14.4mbps hspa+ by AT&T cant reach more than 10mbps as it cannot maximize the theoretical speed of the modem...
I know because my cousin works for them in Dallas Texas as field engineer) they don't have 42mbps hspa+ like tmobile then they have some cities with 21hspa+ but I can count on my fingers how few it is as they focus only on 14.4 then LTE 8…
Saying 4g for a 14.4 Mbps (theoretical) capable phone is STUPID but to a phone with modem of 21mbps-up is accepted as 4G in my book as you can play 1080p movie live streaming easily without buffering.
It's like have a Chevrolet aveo and will tell to the world that it will run like a Bugatti veyron...
Dude! Chill!
The FanDroid Koolaide is fogging your brain a little.
Read the article and then read Magnus's comment again. He is using a literary device called IRONY.
Perhaps you read about it in high school english class.
I have lots APPLE prodcuts but when it comes to smartphones, I will only get the NEXUS phones, because it's more advance and much faster in web browsing.
Also, don't lecture me about english, stupid...
You are still missing the point.
We all know that the 4G designation is bogus! We know our 4S phones won't go faster just because the heading changed. That was the point of the article.
But if the Troll suit fits. . .
Come on 5G!!!!! LOL!!
Hahaha I can't believe they pulled that one....lol. Maybe if you have a 4s there's justification for it but seriously for a 4 and 3G/3GS?....lol and I have a iPhone 4... It'll just make me feel stupid. :(
That is the most dumb thing I've seen so far in 2012.
I'm not sure AT&T has even achieved 3G yet.
just deleted all the joy i wrote about before reading "ow, before your mind gets blown" so yeah. never mind.
It's not dumb folks. Sprint does this crap. Their 4G is as fast as ATT's 3G. ATT is rightfully evening the score.I look foward to this update.
no they don't. liar. and at&t 3g doesn't get past 10mb down so stop
i don't get the existence of phone network fanboys. I'm not all hyped up about my gas and electric company.
Lmao best comment I've read this week.
It's just ridiculously illogical. I dislike anyone that asks me for money every month. It's like any other utility. I'm a necessary evil but still evil.
thank you for this comment. well said sir.
If they let you shoot flamethrowers from your house you would be...
What are you, like six years old? You're obviously a child, and as such, your opinion in invalid. Go have a cookie.
Mike is correct. Only the Iphone 4s can achieve 4g speeds.
Don't hate guys. At&t's network is as fast as verizons 4g network. I've done the speed tests
I guess there's no arguing these official tests then. /s
Does this mean they'll be throttling at 5 gigs now? or is that just for 4g LTE?
This is actually a little bit useful, if it only displays on the 4s and only if it is on HSPA+. If it just replaced the 3G with a 4G, then it is useless and a marketing gimmick.
It would be nice to see some 4s HSPA vs 4s HSPA+ speed comparisions...
wow i want that on my telus iphone :(
Let's remember... The term 4G is subjective still. There has been no standardizing of it.
Heck if a phone company's 4th Generation is EVDO - they could technically make it "4G."
Now - if it said "4G LTE" - That will be different.
The biggest problem? Store reps that are more uneducated than the customers. "Yes, the iPhone is 4G - See?" Grr.
Looks like Samsung will have to pull that commercial where the guy with the Galaxy S II scoffs at the iPhone users who just have "3G" (even though they're both HSPA+). As someone stated above, this is useful for knowing if your phone is on HSPA+ or not since it should theoretically drop back to "3G" if you leave the faster network.
So wait, if it now says '4G' does that mean AT&T won't throttle me until 5GB as opposed to 3GB with my grandfathered unlimited plan?
No, SF guy that is NOT what they are saying at all. The ONLY people that are going to get throttled ar the ones who are on throld Grandfathered unlimited data plan. Throttling starts at 3GB for a non-LTE phone an 5GB for an LTE phone. If you have a non-unlimited plan, then throttling is a NON-issue
The most I get out of my iPhone 4s is maybe 10 down and 1.5 up and thats at about 12am completely surrounded in actual 4g coverage..
I updated my 3Gs and it still says 3G. Maybe it's a location thing? I don't live in a metro area.
Don't feel bad. If yours said "9G", it would benefit you as equally as this 4G nonsense.
For now only the 4S on AT&T will display 4G, and only when on a HSPA+ network, the iPhone 3G 3GS and 4 cannot connect at the higher speed and will not display the '4G' network icon.
Very interesting.... Only a few days did look at my statement from AT&T and saw that my data plan was "4g for iPhone" or something along those lines.... I haven't updated to 5.1 but let's hope that it'll jump to 4g when it's on HSPA+. Anyone else see the 4g plan on their statement?
Just looked at my statement and it definately days "DataPro 2GB on 4G for iPhone 4s...." werd.
Anybody who beleives this doesnt deserve an iphone
So 4G has a 5GB data allowance on unlimited. Do I now get to use my 4G for that? If not then perhaps AT&T shouldn't falsely advertise 4G if they don't want to offer data or speed benefits.
What about the uk?
Yay my iPhone unlimited plan just went up by two gig!
I can haz 4gz???
So will my iPhone 4...or people's iPhone 3G/3GS say 4G or is this for iPhone 4s only.
Yeah, noticed my 4S got a brand-new radio in it today. +1!
Yeah, and I believe I still have unlimited data, too. It's that kinda day.
Great! Now I can have 5 bars + 4G showning and STILL not be able to make or receive calls!
Some of you people are dumb.
Only the iPhone 4s will display 4g.
Providence, Rhode island. 14mbps download on iPhone 4s. Using speed test app. Way faster than my buddy's iPhone 4s on verizon he got a lousy 8mbps
This helps me because now I know when I'm on HSPA+
True. I would just be more honest if it was indicated with "3G+" instead. But hey, it's AT&T.
I know you are lying...
iPhone 4s radio has Only maximum speed of 14.4 max but you can't reach it eve you are connects to a 42mbps hspa+ by tmobile (if the iPhone has aws)...
I had iPhone 4s with AT&T till last week of January and been travelled to Texas,new York and California and the fastest I saw in speedtest.net was 8mbps.
Make a video showing that you are not connected in wifi and running on 14.4mbps hspa+ by AT&T (I know because my cousin works for them in Dallas Texa as field engineer) they don't have 42mbps hspa+ like tmobile then some cities with 21hspa+ but I think I can count on my fingers how few it is as they focus only on 14.4 then LTE 8...
Saying 4g for a 14.4mbos capable phone is STUPID but to a phone with modem of 21mbps-up is accepted as 4G.
So, DON'T LIE...
Also I will add you said...
iPhone 4s in Verizon for 8mbps is NOT POSSIBLE, DUMBASS...
They are using the very slow evdo and the fastest I saw in videos and in the stores was 5mbps...
So you saying this can't happen on the iPhone 4 either ?
Well now those percent who thought their iphone had 4g because it was called the 4 will at least feel somewhat brighter hahah
Get the facts right, it shows only on 4S
I love how this is filled with Verizon fanfags. If anyone was smart enough they would do their research other than the bull rumors everyone comments about on the interwebz. Grow up and read something other than google searches and wiki-know-nothings
Mine seems faster, I don't know if Denver got an upgrade recently though:http://i.imgur.com/BPSPy.png
I'm in Los Angeles and according to the AT&T coverage map I have H+. I've never seen much over 3Mbps. If this thing could tag plain 3G verses 14Mbps, I'd be okay with it. Then I'd only see 3G, of course... Probably most people in LA! Except for the rare occasions that I download a podcast or watch a Netflix, don't know if I'd otherwise be able to tell the difference.
Why didn´t Apple put in hotspot feature in iOS 5.1 for iPad 2?
AT&T is a joke. I feel bad for all of the iPad buyers that bought the AT&T LTE iPad. AT&T will do what they did with the original iPhone...sign up more people than they're network can handle, then we'll all be in the same boat with their LTE. RIP AT&T...its gonna happen, its inevitable.
The "4G" on there is just plain stupid. I might as well slap a chicken sign on a cow and call it a chicken.
I have actually gotten quicker speeds
In some areas. Very nice, thank you apple and AT&T.
i got a iphone 4 on at&t and it still says 3g after update to 5.1. im in st. louis
Hi forum members. Greetz from Bar Harbor
Does ATT know they can just jailbreak and put any icon they want there? It would of saved them a bunch of hassle.
Hi to everyone, this is my first post, because I REALLY need help.
Everywhere i see know this advertisements about Forex thing, got attracted, started to read about it, but still really confused about What is forex .
All the explanations i find on the internet are very complicated. Too many smart words.
Can someone explain what is forex by his own words ?
Tired of websites.
Ive just upgraded the software but mt phone still has 3G is that because I have a 4 and not a 4s
I updated my iPhone, but my phone still says 3G instead of 4G.... HELP
Probably because you have a i4 and not a 4s.
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Interesting. I did the update, but my banner still says 3G.
Haha, you know, I thought it was kinda weird the other day when I glanced at my phone (iPhone 3GS) and I see "4G" displayed. Caught me off guard. Only lasted 5 mins b4 going back to 3G but it was long enough to make me ponder wtf was that all about lol.
Is this any different than T-Mobile's commercial comparing their 4G HSPA++ network to AT&T's 3G network. Run your iPhone up against a two year old SGSII and see how that goes.
You fanboys crack me up. If Apple was so smart, why did they ditch Google Maps and then come crawling back when Apple maps burned into the atmosphere?


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On a different note...Happy Birthday HRH the Countess of Wessex!!! May Sophie have enjoyed a lovely day w/Edward, the kids and lots of cake!!
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Packers OLB Clay Matthews (thumb surgery) has been ruled out for the Wild Card round.
Profootballtalk reports Marshawn Lynch has agreed to a $1.5 million raise for 2014.
The Newark Star-Ledger expects the Giants to employ a running-back-by-committee approach this season, despite David Wilson's career-threatening neck injury.
Reggie Wayne (ACL) has been "effortlessly snatching passes out of the air" at Colts training camp, and coach Chuck Pagano deemed his recovery "really incredible."
Marshawn Lynch has officially reported to Seahawks camp.
Coach Mike Pettine said Johnny Manziel will start to get some reps with the first-string offense soon.
Harold Henderson will hear Josh Gordon's appeal on Friday.
A source tells NJ.com that David Wilson (neck) "needs a miracle" to return to the field.
Mike Wallace (hamstring) will not practice until at least next week.
Colts LG Donald Thomas re-tore his quad during Wednesday's practice and will need surgery.
NFL Network's Albert Breer's "sense is" Teddy Bridgewater has "closed the gap" on Matt Cassel.
Zac Stacy is getting most of the first-team reps at training camp, as expected.