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I think he is taking the 1K price by factoring all upgrades -
Gimpod boards, inductors, caps, resistors, terminal plates, new SDA cable, new binding post, tweeters, NL2/4 conversion, the full monty
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My buddy's shop has a pair of the TAD Reference 1s in stock and they are asking $79k.
I have listened to em several times but would most likely never have the cash for them.
The JBL Everest IIs are a close second for me but a different sound...The JBLs would be my hard rock speakers with the TADs doing everything else in a channel system.
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I may have an addiction... RTA-15TL, SDA 2, LSi25, LSi15, LSi9, LSi7, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LS/FX, RT/FX, DSW MP2000...and that's just the Polks...
Well with the 1C's your dealing with 4 tweeters so thats 200 bucks, for VR3 to mod both cross overs (depending on what he's doing to them) your pretty close to 500, then Larrys rings and such, so 1K may be a little over the top, but i's pretty close. Not that the 1C's do not fill the room..they do. Even in there 26 year old state...LOL
I think it comes down to the point of..I've had these for 26 years. I think it's time to move on to the big boys. The 1.2's are just massive speakers, they have 8 drivers, 4 tweeters and a 15" pr Sitting in a massive cab that weighs about 180 lb's. IF you have the room size for them and the power to push them. They pretty sit there screaming at you to turn them up and let me melt your face off...LMAO
OK..thats a little over the top there..LOL But you get the idea. There are just very few speakers that can compete with that.
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If you are looking for something other than SDAs, I thought the Gallo 3.1 Reference speakers were pretty amazing. Had a friend who had them and they definitely had an amazing sound stage. I don't know what the opinion of them around here is though, but if you want something different I think you should give them a listen.
The TAD Reference 1s are huge... I would hope they sound amazing given the price.
A full MBL system. They are made in Germany and probably the very best sounding speaker system I have ever heard.
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naturallight, if the problem is only with the one speaker the poly is either shot or the wrong spec Either is an easy fix, same as the bad driver.
Honestly, in the last 26 years you have yet to hear what those speakers are close to sounding like. At a minimum, upgrade the crossovers, get the RD0194-1's, Dynamat the drivers/PR's and spike them. I gaurantee you will kick yourself really effing hard for not doing it before.
You still haven't answered one question, what are you driving them with?
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If your into big speakers with big bass, Legacy Focus 20/20's or the newer HD's will sure fit the bill. I 've had the 20/20's now for about 7 years now with no complaints or feel any desire to go elsewhere. If your close to northern Illinois your more than welcome to drop by for a listen.
I've owned the 1.2s since 1988. They are my best and last speaker until I have to downsize at the nurning home.
Thanks Tony, but i live in GA...that would be a long hike..LOL The Legacy Focus is one of the few speakers that come to mind, to compete with the 1.2's But to find a set used in the 3K range may not be doable.
F1 the amp is the Onkyo M-504, the amp is fine, i know the cross-overs need to be rebuilt, no question about that. It's not like they shut down alot, it's once in a blue moon and only on certain cd's if pushed to hard. I've changed the pico on that cross-over, didn't do alot. The other speaker used to shut down the tweeters alot. I just changed the whole cross-over new from Polk. They never shut down now. So 1 speaker has a cross-over that is maybe 10 years old the other is well over 26..so yes for sure..both have to come out and redone. Trying to get any of this done right now is impossible. Anytime i think i may have a few hundred for new tweeters...it goes right out the door on house stuff.
Right now i'd rather wrestle an alligator, then tell her i'm spending (or in her words wasting) money on speakers, as i have a basement full of expensive "toys" Keyboards, guitar amps, guitars, full on PA, 32 track recorder..plus 3 sets of stereo speakers. Thats why i stuck a 2 year time line on this. The house HAS to be finished by then. My thinking of being able to save up 3k....that may be over the top. But i'd really like a set of 1.2's. If that is undo able, yes i will completely redo the 1 C's.
Later on in the year, i may be able to sneak a few hundred for tweeters for the 1C's, but that would be about it for now.
Your amp is only rated for 8ohm operation, IIRC.
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There is some method to my madness on this. I do have some equipment that i could sell off. I hate to sell stuff, as in the back of my mind is always..gee i may use that again sometime...LOL
But i'm getting to old to really use some of this stuff, and will not have the opportunity to do so.
The 32 track recorder..i'm just NOT going to use. I have an extra guitar amp sitting there collecting dust. Just between those 2 thats an easy 1K if not more. The RTi 12' would be the speakers i would sell also.
If i sold any of that stuff right now...the house would just suck that money up in a heartbeat.
So if i just wait, until the house is done, or the BIG expenses are done. Then i have a chance at getting a set of 1.2 TL's..IF i can find them, in good shape, for the right price...LOL
I don't want to throw alot of money at the 1C's right now (not that i have it anyway) but the new RDO tweeters, would really be nice. Just to get rid of the SL2000's..LOL It's just a stop gap..but needed.
IF..i could find a set of 1.2's..I would NOT do anything more to the 1C's. They would probably be moved upstairs, let the wife use them for her music. They would never be stressed, or played that loud, and she would be happy as a clam with those.
If i could get the 1.2's then i'd be looking for a newer more powerful amp, and in any case a new pre. tubes would be nice but a hybrid is not out of the question. The Vincent tube hybrid pre seems to be a good buy..something i'm thinking about.
This all depends on how much money i can really come up with..IF i can find the right set of 1.2's...if there just out of the question, then the 1C's get the full Monty and just call it a day.
Face, i'm not sure were you got that from. It's the Onkyo Integra M-504. There is little or no info on these amps anymore. I lost the manual..a long time ago. But these were top of the line stuff and just not rated at 8ohms. It has been pushing the 1c's for years to stupily loud volumes, and does not break a sweat. So it's not like it has any problem with the 1C's.
Service manual of M-504 only has 8ohm power ratings and does not have anything for 4ohm or 2ohm.
Any 8ohm amp works at 4ohm load but will stress the amp and may overheat/fail if pushed to high levels.
Here is a link but you have to register to download: http://www.hifiengine.com/library/onkyo/m-504.shtml
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The problem with the Onkyo Intagra line. They only made these amps for a few years, why i don't know. They were highly acclaimed by the mags at the time. I've seen spec's on this amp that range from 165 watts to 175 watts.."supposedly" from Onkyo. Which i could never confirm. They have nothing but a pic of the amp on there website..thats about all the info you can get at this point.
There were "i think" 2 types of amps made....which may not be true. The 504 and the 508. The 508 again i think was 200 watts. The 504..at least at the time i bought it was (supposedly form Onkyo)165 watts. The ratings were all at 8 ohms. Why they only listed it at that..not sure, but would be insanely stupid for them to build a high dollar amp that only worked at 8 ohms. These were NOT cheap power amps at the time, which back then could have been one of the reasons they dropped the line. They are real dual mono blocks, put into 1 cab. The amp is heavy..like 50 lb's or close to it. This amp gets hot when you turn it on..doesn't make a difference if your pushing speakers..it's just hot..period. It doesn't get hotter..it's like it gets up to temp and stays there..if your kicking the crap out of the speakers or not..just it's normal operating temp.
If this amp had any problem at all trying to drive the 6 ohm 1C's....it would have smoked these speakers 15 years ago. Which is not the case at all.
There are more models of the M series, but you don't see them as often as you do the 504/508.
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Yeah, i'm not sure what the deal was with Onkyo back then, none of them were cheap..and the power ratings were not that far apart. This was all back in the 1990's...LOL The only reason i managed to get this amp. I walked into J&R in NYC..saw the amp sitting there on a shelf. Not sure it was used as a demo as it was not hooked up to anything..just display type. One of the lights did not work on the VU meters.....
So..it took me a good 15 min at least arguing with the sales guy...like first off it's a demo..second..it's BROKE...LOL It will take me alot of money to get the lights fixed..and so on...LOL
So i walked out of there with a good deal...I don't remember how much i payed..but it was a good deal. The light thing took all of a few min to fix..the connection was loose..LOL
The amp has never failed, nore had a problem pushing any type speaker at volume. So why they stuck 1 set of specs at it..not sure..but back then..not alot of amp companies posted what the power was at different ohm ratings..at least that i can remember. Again..I may be wrong... But 8 ohms was the stock thing..if your amp could not push X amount of power at 8 Ohms...then you were playing games and nobody wanted it.
You mentioned your amp is dual mono, have you ever confirmed that it is common ground?
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F1..this amp was billed as a dual mono block..altho in 1 cab..I do believe it's really a dual mono block from what i can see. BUT..if this was NOT a common ground amp..the 1C's would have been toasted
15 years ago..so i tend to believe it is..
Yes, I understand it's dual mono in one chassis and you're likely right that after all these years of use it is probably common ground, but you should check it to be sure.
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Your amps may--or may not--be true common-ground design. Easy to connect an ohmmeter to the negative terminals and find out.
My last and BEST speakers will be arriving when Ray puts his fully modded 1.2TL's up for sale next April 1st! And if I remember correctly, he is throwing in the all of AQ interconnects, x'ovr and speaker cables, Pass Lab pre-amp and mono-blocks, etc - pretty much a whole package. Can't wait!
I have an M504 and it is a common ground amp. I lost the manual a long time ago but I do remember that its common ground. And NatualLight....my 504 does not ever really get 'that' hot. It gets fairly warm but nothing to the point of what you are talking about. Maybe I am not pushing it as hard as you are though.
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A lot of positive feedback about Magnepan 3.7's. I would love to hear them on my system, even though I don't care for the aesthetics of the Magnepans.
Has anyone listened to the Pioneer EX speakers? They're pretty expensive, but I haven't heard much about them and wonder about the target market for these.
Thanks halo for the info..i lost the manual a LONG time ago..LOL But i was pretty sure it was a common ground amp. Now when i say 'hot"..it's not like frying eggs or anything. It's a big amp, has lots of vents..just throws off heat..so if you stick your hand on the top...it's pretty warm, it's nothing like a tube amp, but the thing is not cold for sure. It doesn't care if it's running the 1C's or the RTi 12's. As i change them out depending on what i feel like.
If you push this amp on newer recorded CD's..and you play this in the a little over the 11 o'clock position on the pre..unless your deaf..or want to be, that is probably far beyond what you really want to listen to this stuff at. The only stuff you have to turn up past that is the old analog stuff that was recorded low, and you have to push the volume to get close to what it used to be..but you talking 12 or a tad bit over that. In any case..the amp does not get really "hot".
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Muzzafar wrote:What about Carrie, Terry, Jerry, Perry, Harry, Gary, and Rudolfo? Any significance in Gary being "the stern one"? Harry the jokester? Rudolfo the quiet one?
Muzzafar wrote:So what's up with all the references?
Mary Sagittari: "sagittarius" means "archer" ("armed with arrows and bow") in Latin. "Sagittarii" is plural for "sagittarius".
What about Sagittari CXIV? (CXIV is 114 written in Latin numbers.)
What about Carrie, Terry, Jerry, Perry, Harry, Gary, and Rudolfo? Any significance in Gary being "the stern one"? Harry the jokester? Rudolfo the quiet one?
Swordsman/stabber named Dodge?
Googling "Count Topotato" and "Topotato, and beyond!" reveals that both refer to the phrase "counting to potato" and Internet meme "to potato and beyond" that mock people with low intelligence. Anything else?
"Clotheshorses" probably refer to clothes rack while "Aquabats" may refer to The Aquabats.
Any ideas?
roninpanda wrote:I think all of you may be over-reacting a bit in assigning significance many of these things and to the sibling's names.
I think the clotheshorses were present to show the reader how useless Topotato was. I don't think we will ever actually see them.
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Just got a very nice pair of SDA SRS-2. Wow. Intense, true stereo. Perfect for me. Now to find a bigger amp lol.
much bigger.
Those SDA's are sweet...wish I had room for a pair.
I have SDA 1C's... they are awesome, unfortunately broken right now (that's another thread). Currently seeking 1.2TL's.
I wonder if Polk could sell them under another name through high end stores, kind of like Lexus is to Toyota... Or a high end series like a "signature series" that would not be sold online or in the regular outlets like Circuit City.
So I guess the next question is "does anyone have an ML6511 they would be willing to part with?".
If not, what do they go for new and are they even available?
Not many people want big huge speakers. Most want not to see there speakers if possible. Most don't even like bookshelf on stands or skinny floor standers.
This move then was necessary. It still holds water today.
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This speaker is untouchable. I heard it firsthand at the Polk Audio Headquarters in Baltimore MD
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Again they don't have to be huge.
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2 words. Broad and Rich. These speakers are neither.
Cardinals-1 thats "rich broads" !! not Broad and Rich
Another case of the death of a great product with the "Walmart" society
I first heard a pair of SDA-SRS speakers while I was stationed in Baumholder West Germany in 1986-1987. Even though I couldn't really afford them at the time, I was blown away and just had to put them on the Deferred Payment Plan. (Layaway) Unfortunately by the time I paid for them, I had to re-sell them soon thereafter due to financial reasons.
In the years since then, I 've become very passionate about Dunlavy speakers. To this day, I believe they're some of the best speakers I have ever heard. It wasn't until just last week that I was again thrust into the world of Polk when I took in a pair of SDA-SRS speakers on a trade. WOW! I forgot what those sounded like!
It sure would be interesting if Polk resurrected the line, with some improvements to boot.
As for the comments of several other posts relating to large speakers being hard to sell, I somewhat disagree. The primary reason for making money-no-object items isn't so much to actually sell them. It's to show the world what you're capable of. Chevrolet doesn't sell alot of it's Corvette ZR-1's relative to their cheaper cars, just like Ferrari didn't sell many of their Enzo's. The same thing goes for Infinity with their IRS speakers. They were made partly for marketing publicity and partly to reward some of their most valued customers.
I think it would be a good thing.
Stay on topic please, keep it civil...EVERYONE and take arguments to private message.
NO you cannot sell things in the WTB section or thread crash to sell your gear. It's a no-brainer for most folks but someone new may not understand the differences between the rooms.
The rules will be amended to reflect that fact.
I still have my Polk SDA-1b's and have enjoyed listening to them since I got them new in 1987. I now have them as my front speakers in a surround 5.1 array with RT2000p's for my rears and a CS400 center speaker. I top this off with a Velodyne CT150 Subwoofer. This is driven by a Yamaha RX V2400 Receiver. I have a Sony Bravia KDL-46XBR2 LCD TV attached to all this and the surround sound that develops from my speakers is truly amazing. Two channel Stereo is also superb. I am a little deaf from too many bangs and booms from my service in Southeast Asia and the system makes up for my hearing loss. I just wish I coulod hear the high Frequency sound that my system puts out, I just can't hear it. I don't hear the new frogs in my woods in springtime, either.
I am very happy with my set up. I didn't spend a fortune on it, not because I didn't want to. But for what I have, I love it and I hope it outlasts me. My Polks show no sign of becoming tired, so as long as they keep delivering, I will be happy.
Nice system AM, and so long as you are happy with it that is all that counts. Welcome to Club Polk!
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YES!!!!!!!!!! Wish they would bring back the SDA SRS angels! Sigh!!!!!!! I used to own a pair back when and had to sell them cause of financial depression at the times. I have an old pair of RTA12b which are great sounding in themselves but................. sigh Wish I could find another SDA SRS again! To my ear they were the best sounding speakers and should be the sound system at Heavens gate! lmao! I still have my carver amps pushing now but they miss the origninal children! Anyone know of a loose pair floating around? POLK please consider this line again! TY!;):D
I think a certain few of us really want these beautiful sounding SDA SRS back in our lives! PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Polk let bring them back to US! :D
For those of you who want SDA's, buy them! CraigsList is your friend. Keep at it, find a good deal, and then have some fun with them - tweeter upgrades, crossover mods, etc. They'll sound better than they did new.
I've owned three sets of SDA's through the years, and have upgraded two of them. It's a very fun and rewarding project, and you get a lot of personal satisfaction listening to them after you've added your own improvements.
Follow the threads on this forum. Personally, I am green with envy at the number of recent posters who are snagging 1.2's in the $750-$1000 range. It's not cheap to do the upgrades on these (the tweeters alone will run you $400), but if you snag a pair at those kind of prices, the final product is outrageously good at a very low net price.
Right now I'm working from home waiting to sign for the delivery of my new dac and tube pre-amp, and next week will be picking up a Krell amp, all to make my restored SDA-1C's sing and dance for me. SDA's rock on....
Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
Bottom line is 95% of people won't set them up right. How many times have you seen dumb asses setup 5 speakers in a row that are suposed to be HT? We are a choosen few here.
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The Polk SDA's certainly were fine speakers. A friend still has a pair and they still sound fantastic.
I'm fascinated by the dual LSi9 setup Matt Polk has in Darqueknight's Polkfest post. I wonder why more people aren't doing this. Is the SDA setup something we can duplicate or is it reserved for those with loads of cash, or just for Matt or?
This was a "passive" SDA type of speaker in a surround bar configuration. The commercial surround bar achieves it's properties using DSP algorithms rather than with purely passive components.
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass
Pass Aleph 30; Eastern Electric Mini Max; Adcom GDA600; MIT S3/Z Pc; SDA 1C; Squeezebox; Tubes add soul!
a number of folks are upgrading their SDA drivers and reworking the crossovers - I just upgraded the crossovers on my 10B's and they are amazing - the SDA's would be similarly incredible - if you have the room - go for it!
Overall it's really too bad that such great speakers have been discontinued for so long. I still love the CRS+'s I have and I've heard Monitor 5's as well as SDA-1's. To me, bringing back just the CRS+'s even would be a Godsend. Yeah, Best Buy and Circuit City will be clueless, but there's still a pretty penny to be made selling these. There's no audio stores within 50 miles of me but word-of-mouth by SDA enthusiasts may well get these off the ground again. Frankly, if these were listed on NewEgg or Musicdirect or half a dozen other electronics & music retailers, I'm sure there'd be a lot of new people clamoring to buy a quality set like these. Of course the speakers are tough to ship, but they had to be shipped in the first place. Stuff like this doesn't need to be redone entirely. Not everyone has want or need for a 5.1 stereo system. I for sure don't; 2-channel sounds good, SDA 2-channel sounds immaculate. DIY would be an interesting route to go I'd think, tough it'd still be tough shipping the cabinets even disassembled. Think of it like this; McIntosh sells their top-of-the-line 144-speaker K2K's for $120,000 and they do it order by order. Short of their low-end gear, you're in a line for 6-8 weeks to get anything directly ordered. For the type of market this is, a 4-8 week waiting period is good enough so long as there's customer service backing it up.
Polkfest 2005 attendees had some spy photos of LSi based SRT modules...check out the showcase.
They have been playing with a formal SDA prototype for years. SDA is still available and currently utilized in the Surround Bar series.
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Bought SDA-SRA2's new about '85, when the new model came out. Got some demo's for 50% off. Powered with Adcom GFA-555, & GTP-500 for 25 years. Many wonderful moments, and endless hours of enjoyment. Probably longest lasting, highest pleasure consumer product I ever bought.
Now I'm upgrading from budget audiophile to near audiophile, used Sony xa-777es SACD player, Parasound A-21 amp and P-3 pre-amp.
Interesting that after 25 years the speakers are still the strongest component of the system. Looks like to upgrade now will be 5-10k, and I'd have to hear the difference first.
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Thursday, July 31, 2014
Teen ActivitiesTV Studio Production Camp
In this camp for students in grades six to eight, participants will learn a variety of skills needed to produce, direct and act in television shows in a professional studio. July 28-Aug. 1, 9 a.m.-3 p.m. $450. Midpeninsula Community Media Center, 900 San Antonio Road, Palo Alto.
Family and Kidsbricks4kidz Lego summer camp
bricks4kids will offer a variety of Lego summer camps for ages 3 to 14 years old, which help to develop science and math skills through activities like building, testing, robotics and movie-making. Monday-Friday, June 23-August 1, 9 a.m.-noon; 1-4 p.m. $150 half-day week; $270 full-day week. Unitarian Universalist Church of Palo Alto, 505 E. Charleston Road, Palo Alto.
Family and KidsMath Discovery Summer Camp
In these weeklong camps, kids will engage in math activities and projects covering a number of subjects such as fractions, platonic solids, fractals and more. Hands-on projects, outdoor play and video games will be among the activities. Monday-Friday, June 16-Aug. 1, 9 a.m.-3 p.m. $380. Synapse Middle School, 3375 Edison Way, Menlo Park.
SeniorsLa Comida lunch program
La Comida invites adults age 60 and over and their guests to enjoy a nutritious and affordable three-course lunch accompanied by music, activities and camaraderie. Meals are also held at two other Palo Alto locations. See website for details. Monday-Friday, year-round (except on some holidays), 11:15 a.m.-12:15 p.m. $3 donations accepted for adults 60 and over; $8 adults under 60. La Comida Dining Room at Avenidas Center, 450 Bryant St., Palo Alto.
Food and DrinkSilicon Valley Beer Week at Tied House
Tied House Microbrewery and Cafe will celebrate Silicon Valley Beer Week with a special beer pairing menu featuring new items and Tied House's award-winning beers. July 25-Aug. 2, business hours. Prices vary. Tied House, 954 Villa St., Mountain View.
On Stage'The Wizard of Oz'
The Los Altos Stage Company and Los Altos Youth Theatre will perform the classic musical, "The Wizard of Oz," following Dorothy, the Scarecrow, the Tinman, the Cowardly Lion and Toto as they seek to find Dorothy a way home. Thursday-Sunday, July 18-Aug. 3, 7:30 p.m. $15 youth/senior; $20 adult. Bus Barn Theater, 97 Hillview Ave., Los Altos.
On Stage'The Great Pretender'
TheatreWorks will put on a production of 'The Great Pretender' by David West Read, a hit at the company's New Works Festival about how a children's TV host deals with the death of a popular puppeteer. See website for specific dates and times. July 9-Aug. 3, 2, 7:30 or 8 p.m. $25-$68. Lucie Stern Theatre, 1305 Middlefield Road, Palo Alto.
Exhibits'Inside Rodins Hands: Art, Technology and Surgery'
James Chang has incorporated Rodin's hand sculptures into his hand surgery educational program, using new technologies that scan the sculptures, create interior anatomy and allow for virtual surgery to correct the condition. The exhibition provides an interactive experience for visitors. Wednesday-Sunday, April 9-Aug. 3, 11 a.m.-5 p.m.; Thursdays til 8 p.m. Free. Cantor Arts Center, 328 Lomita Drive, Stanford.
Family and KidsYMCA summer camps
Summer programs at the Palo Alto YMCA are designed to keep kids physically active and mentally engaged with a variety of activities. See website for specific programs and dates. June 2-August 4, Prices vary (financial assistance available). Palo Alto Family YMCA, 3412 Ross Road, Palo Alto.
ConcertsCafe Conversations and Master Classes
Music@Menlo will hold a number of conversations with performing artists, as well as master classes where educators from the Chamber Music Institute will impart their knowledge to young players. Monday-Friday, July 21-Aug. 8, 11:45 a.m. Free. Menlo School, 50 Valparaiso Ave., Atherton.
Teen ActivitiesWizards and Warriors Gaming Camp
At this medieval-themed camp, counselors dressed as bards, knights and sages will lead participants in games like Dungeons and Dragons, paint miniatures, build dioramas, mold dungeons and play field games. June 16-August 8, 9-5 p.m. $888/two-week session. Wizards and Warriors, 1836 Hamilton Ave., Palo Alto.
ConcertsPrelude Performances
At the Music@Menlo summer festival, Prelude Performances will showcase young artists (ages 18 to 29) from the Chamber Music Institute's International Program. Check website for specific dates and locations. July 22-Aug. 9, 5:30 p.m. Free. Menlo School and The Center for Performing Arts, Menlo-Atherton High School, , Atherton.
On Stage'South Pacific'
Foothill Music Theatre will put on a production of the Broadway musical "South Pacific," by Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II. Thursday-Sunday, July 24-Aug. 10, 7:30-10 p.m. $10-$32. Smithwick Theatre, Foothill College, 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills.
On Stage'Moby Dick - Rehearsed'
Stanford Repertory Theater will put on a production of Orson Welles' blank-verse adaptation of Melville's masterpiece -- replete with the hunt, meditations on the sea and the mania of Captain Ahab. July 17-Aug. 10, Thursday-Saturday at 8 p.m., Sundays at 2 p.m. $15 student/senior; $25 general. Pigott Theater, Memorial Auditorium, 551 Serra Mall, Stanford.
Family and KidsHelix summer sessions
Helix will offer summer camp sessions for ages 5 to 14 where kids can learn about the world through investigation. Participants can explore exhibits and spend time learning in the workshop. Monday-Friday, July 7-Aug. 15, 1-4 p.m. $200 member; $250 nonmember. Helix by Exploratorium, 316 State St., Los Altos.
Teen ActivitiesYouth Claymation Camp
In these weeklong camps for ages 10 to 14, students will learn how to create clay animation with the stop-motion techniques used in such movies as the Wallace & Gromit films and "Chicken Run." Small groups of students will come up with a story, mold, animate and edit a film for their final projects. Monday-Friday, July 7-Aug. 15, 10 a.m.-4 p.m. $325. KMVT 15 Community Television, 1400 Terra Bella Ave., Suite M, Mountain View.
Teen ActivitiesYouth Studio Production Camp
This summer KMVT 15 will hold weeklong camps for students ages 10 to 14, where they can use professional studio equipment to gain skills in camera work, directing, sound design, acting and producing. By the end of each camp, students will have produced segments which will be broadcast on cable Channel 15. Monday-Friday, June 9-Aug. 15, 10 a.m.-4 p.m. $369. KMVT 15 Community Television, 1400 Terra Bella Ave., Suite M, Mountain View.
Family and KidsHeather Hill Riding Center Summer Camps
Heather Hill Camp is a fun-filled time with the HH Welsh Cobs and Ponies! Half or full day sessions. Ride every day. Riding, film making, art. June 16 to Aug. 15, 9 a.m.-4 p.m. $100-$650 Rancho Viejo Stables in Portola Valley, 45 Ansel Lane, Portola Valley.
Family and KidsMarine Science Camp
The Marine Science Institute is hosting a camp that offers hands-on activities, live animals and educational field trips including a day aboard the Marine Science Institute research vessel. Week-long camps run from June 16Aug. 15; each day starts at 10 a.m. Registration opens Feb. 1. Starting at $375. Marine Science Institute, 500 Discovery Parkway, Redwood City.
On Stage'Into the Woods, Junior'
For the final play in its 2014 Outdoor Summer "Hot Dog" Series, the Palo Alto Children's Theatre will put on a production called "Into the Woods, Junior." Favorite fairytale characters will take a journey into the woods to fulfill their wishes in this 80-minute, family drama. Wednesday-Sunday, July 30-Aug. 16, 6:30-8 p.m. $12-$14. Palo Alto Children's Theatre, Magic Castle Stage, 1305 Middlefield Road, Palo Alto.
Exhibits'The Stanford Albums'
The Cantor Arts Center will mount an exhibition of 19th-century photographer Carleton Watkins' Pacific Coast photographs, all drawn from three unbound albums in the Stanford librarys Special Collections. April 23-Aug. 17, Wednesday-Sunday, 11 a.m.-5 p.m.; Thursdays til 8 p.m. Free. Cantor Arts Center, 328 Lomita Drive, Stanford.
Family and KidsArt School of San Francisco Bay summer camps
This summer the Art School of San Francisco Bay will offer art camps for all levels. They include Plein Air for beginners and advanced students, Portrait painting and Art History Applied. Participants will learn valuable artistic skills and enjoy the creative environment. Both half and full-day camps are offered. Monday-Friday, June 16-August 22, 9 a.m.-3 p.m. $200 for half-day week; $400 for full-day. Accent Arts Store, 392 S. California Ave., Palo Alto.
Art Galleries'Compositions in Light'
Gallery House will have on display an exhibit of landscape photography called "Compositions in Light" by Bay Area artist Vidya Narasimhan. An artist reception will be held on Aug. 1, from 6 to 8 p.m. July 29-Aug. 23, 11 a.m.-8 p.m. Free. Gallery House, 320 S. California Ave., Palo Alto.
Exhibits'Stonewalled in Jerusalem'
Santa Cruz mixed media artist Sara Friedlander will have on display her visually arresting and socially focused artwork, which contemplates the Israeli/Palestinian impasse. Using original and archival images, she explores both sides and welcomes viewers' ideas about moving forward. May 16-August 25, 6:30-8:30 p.m. Free. Oshman Family JCC, 3921 Fabian Way, Palo Alto.
Art Galleries'Capturing Light'
"Capturing Light: The World as We See It" is a judged exhibit and sale of 50 prints by members of the Palo Alto Camera Club, including 12 photos taken in Havana, Cuba. A percentage of proceeds from print sales will go to Cultural Kaleidoscope, a City of Palo Alto program supporting art in local schools. Monday-Friday, March 10-August 28, 8 a.m.-noon; 1-5 p.m. Free. Los Altos Hills Town Hall, 26379 Fremont Road, Los Altos Hills.
VolunteersLa Comida volunteer opportunities
The La Comida Senior Lunch Program has various volunteer opportunities available, including helping to welcome and serve seniors, translate, work on special projects and do community outreach. Monday-Friday, year-round, 9:30 a.m.-1 p.m. Free. La Comida Dining Room (at Avenidas Center), 450 Bryant St., Palo Alto.
Art GalleriesWorks by Judi Keyani
Recent works by Bay Area artist Judy Keyani will be on display at Gallery 9, including pastel, oil paint and sketch pieces. An opening reception will be held on Friday, Aug. 1, from 5:30 to 7:30 p.m. July 29-Aug. 31, Tuesday-Saturday, 11 a.m-5 p.m.; Sunday, noon-4 p.m. Free. Gallery 9, 143 Main St., Los Altos.
Exhibits'Peaches on a Tree'
An exhibit of colorful and emotional paintings by artists of Art For Well Beings, a Palo Alto art studio for people with special needs, will be on display at the Palo Alto Art Center. Tuesday-Sunday, July 1-Aug. 31, 10 a.m.-5 p.m. Free. Palo Alto Art Center, 1313 Newell Road, Palo Alto.
Art Galleries'Peanuts' paintings by Tom Everhart
Peabody Fine Art Gallery will host an exclusive exhibition of works by Tom Everhart, who was permitted by Charles Schulz to paint his Peanuts comic strip characters in his own style. July 19-Sept. 1, 10:15 a.m.-5:45 p.m. Free. Peabody Fine Art Gallery, 603 Santa Cruz Ave., Menlo Park.
Exhibits'Luminous Essays'
The Caldwell Gallery will have on display "Luminous Essays," an exhibit of works by fine art photographers from the Peninsula Photographic Arts Guild. July 2-Sept. 3, 5 a.m.-5 p.m. Free. Caldwell Gallery, 400 County Center at the Hall of Justice, Redwood City.
Exhibits'Fearless Genius'
The Computer History Museum will have on display a photography exhibit by Doug Menuz called "Fearless Genius: The Digital Revolution in Silicon Valley, 1985-2000." It consists of 50 photographs documenting innovators at Apple, Leiner Perkins, Adobe and other companies. Wednesday-Sunday, July 9-Sept. 7, 10 a.m.-5 p.m. $15 general; $12 student/senior/military. Computer History Museum, 1401 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mountain View.
Exhibits'Dana Harel: Between Dreams and Nightmares'
A solo exhibition of new works by Redwood City artist Dana Harel will be on display at the Palo Alto Art Center. Organized by Laguna Art Museum, the exhibit consists of 15 mixed-media drawings of animal and human figures, reflecting the messiness of war. June 14-September 7, center hours. Free. Palo Alto Art Center, 1313 Newell Road, Palo Alto.
Classes/WorkshopsFoothill College Fall Quarter registration
Foothill College Fall Quarter registration will be open on the school's website beginning July 21. Classes will run from September 22 to December 12. Students are encouraged to register early for the best course selection. July 21-September 22. $31/unit for California residents, plus basic fees. Foothill College, 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills.
VolunteersSilicon Valley Tour de Coop preparation
Neighbors Helping Neighbors will hold a variety of volunteer activities leading up to and during the Silicon Valley Tour de Coop, a bike ride between chicken coops and home gardens on September 21. Volunteer opportunities include putting up fliers and posters, doing test bike rides, organizing other small events to spread the word and staffing locations on tour day. The organization also seeks community members with chicken coops, beehives and home gardens to host stops. June-September, dates and times vary. Free. Neighbors Helping Neighbors events, various nearby locations, Palo Alto and Mountain View.
Exhibits'The New Landscape'
The Cantor Arts Center will mount a new exhibit called "The New Landscape: Experiments in Light by Gyorgy Kepes," which explores art's relevance in a scientific age. Forty-five panels by the Hungarian-born American artist capturing scientific imagery (minerals, cellular patterns and tissue fibers) will be on display. Wednesday-Sunday, July 24-Nov. 17, 11 a.m.-5 p.m.; Thursdays til 8 p.m. (starting Sept. 21, the center will also be open on Mondays). Free. Cantor Arts Center, 328 Lomita Drive at Museum Way, Stanford.
Exhibits'Huangshan and Zhangjiajie, China'
The exhibit "Huangshan and Zhangjiajie, China: Photographs of Land and Culture" will be on display at the Krause Center for Innovation. June 23-Sept. 26, center hours. Free. Krause Center for Innovation, 12345 El Monte Road, Building 4000, Los Altos Hills.
ExhibitsYosemite Memories
Garden Fresh restaurant will have on display an exhibit of acrylic paintings on canvas by local artist Diana Wade Collins. Her works depict landscapes and scenes from her time spent in Yosemite and abroad. July 30-Sept. 30, 11:30 a.m.-9 p.m. Free. Garden Fresh Restaurant, 460 Ramona St., Palo Alto.
Exhibits'Night, Smoke and Shadows'
This exhibition, named "Night, Smoke and Shadows: The Presence of Atmosphere in the 19th Century," includes prints, drawings and photographs by artists such as James McNeill Whistler, Max Klinger, Felicien Rops and Alvin Langdon Coburn. Wednesday-Sunday, May 14-Oct. 5, 11 a.m.-5 p.m.; Thursdays til 8 p.m. (after September 21, the center will also be open Mondays). Free. Cantor Arts Center, 328 Lomita Drive, Stanford.
Exhibits'Artists Observe Nature'
This exhibition features about 18 prints and drawings that focus on the post-17th century impulse to study nature. Wednesday-Sunday, May 14-Oct. 5, 11 a.m.-5 p.m.; Thursdays til 8 p.m. (after September 21, the center will also be open Mondays). Free. Cantor Arts Center, 328 Lomita Drive, Stanford.
Food and DrinkPortola Valley Farmers' Market
This farmers' market at the Portola Valley Town Center features organic fruit and vegetables, free range eggs, fair trade coffee, wild and local seafood, hot free range rotisserie chickens, local honey, organic olive oil, gluten-free baked goods, nuts and nut butters, pickles, jerky, artisan breads, flowers, crafts and music. Thursdays, year-round, 3-7 p.m. (summer hours). Portola Valley Farmers' Market, 765 Portola Road, Portola Valley.
Exhibits'Within and Without: Transformations in Chinese Landscapes'
Fifteen works of Chinese landscape will be on display. Wednesday-Sunday, Feb. 19-Dec. 14., 11 a.m.-5 p.m.; Thursdays til 8 p.m. (after September 21, the center will also be open on Mondays). Free. Cantor Arts Center, 328 Lomita Drive, Stanford.
Classes/WorkshopsFor the Love of Dance classes
For the Love of Dance offers training in ballet, jazz, tap and other styles of dance. Serving Mountain View, Palo Alto, Los Altos and Sunnyvale, it is a family-owned studio that teaches dance to children and adults at all levels of ability. Visit website to learn about specific offerings. March through December. Prices vary. For the Love of Dance, 2483 Old Middlefield Way, Mountain View.
Art Galleries'From the Ground Up'
Artists Martha Castillo and Trevlyn Williams will have new works on display at Gallery House, which are inspired by the colors, textures and light of California's natural landscapes. A reception will be held on July 11, from 6 to 8 p.m. July 1-26, 11 a.m.-8 p.m. Free. Gallery House, 320 S. California Ave., Palo Alto.


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Philip Tischendorf will train in Oberstdorf for the next four weeks in the IceDome workshop as will ZiganshinaGaszi.
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NASA Powers Up Orion, Installs Hardware on its Way Toward Mars
November 8, 2013 | WMFE - Technicians working on NASA's new spacecraft at the Kennedy Space Center will soon have the Orion's propulsion system installed. It's the next step in readying the Orion for a flight test, after the spacecraft was powered on last month.
[Photo: Orion. Credit: NASA]
NASA says powering up Orion for a series of tests late last month was a major milestone.
Stu McClung is part of the Orion production team. He says it was a bit like starting a car.
"If you think when you turn your car on, and you flip it to just, not to turn the engine over and start running but to run your radio? That first step where all the dashboard lights up? It's almost a step like that. It's like, alright go first step, good, I got good battery power."
Engineers are now finishing the installation of propulsion tubing before they move on to the other hardware the spacecraft will need for an unmanned test flight next fall.
Orion will circle the Earth twice before returning at a speed of 20,000 miles an hour, faster than any current spacecraft capable of carrying humans.
Orion is designed to carry astronauts to asteroids and Mars, but McClung says the design remains flexible should its mission change.


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Trek through the hills surrounding Chiang Mai and meet the local people, known collectively as hilltribes, who have made their homes on these slopes. They have lived in peace and without modern conveniences for many years; a visit to these traditional communities is like travelling back to a simpler time. Learn about jungle food and the local way of life. After all that exertion, recline on a bamboo raft and float downriver, giving the friendly locals a wave as you drift past them going about their daily lives.
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After meeting up with Jeni and Megan a couple weeks ago at the Olive Juice midnight madness sewing, I came home with a few pieces cut for a cute wallet. I know, super productive, right?! ha.
I had scooped up Michelle's patterns Zip Pocket Pouch on sale and couldn't resist using some of my Suzy Ultman with some Sew Stitchy by Aneela Hoey. I think they make the perfect pair.
I'll be making more of these, no doubt.
I forgot how much I missed making pillows. They're so awesome and quick and fun. And of course I love putting in an invisible zipper. I hadn't done one for so long that it took me a bit to get back into that mode. I even ruined a zip after shortening it, then trying to zip it closed I zipped the whole zipper pull off, duh! Secretly happy that I have a semi-good sized stash of invisible zippers hanging around.


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After Shuttle Program, Space Coast Focuses on Abandoned Citrus Town
April 29, 2013 | WMFE - Twenty miles north of where the shuttle used to launch from Florida's Space Coast is an abandoned citrus community known as Shiloh. This 150 acres of scrub is at the center of the Space Coast's transition from the shuttle program to tomorrow's space flight. There's interest in turning Shiloh into the world's first commercial orbital launch site. Environmentalists are ambivalent. But space advocates say it would help revitalize the region, which has languished since the shuttle program ended.
Shiloh is located within the Merritt Island National Wildlife Refuge, among the nation's most popular destinations for bird watching. The refuge is home to 300 species including the American Bald Eagle and the threatened Florida Scrub Jay.
"It probably was just a typical small rural community that was primarily orange groves," says Layne Hamilton, the refuge's manager. "But if you look around you, you can see how resilient the habitat is. It's come back in so many different, you know, it's hard to find where the old orange groves were."
NASA took possession of the land at the start of the space program more than 50 years ago. Now the private space company SpaceX has identified Shiloh as a possible place for a commercial orbital launch site.
SpaceX also is considering sites in Texas, Georgia and Puerto Rico. The company declined to comment for this story, but founder Elon Musk told the Texas Legislature recently their state is the front-runner.
"We're talking about something that's really the big leagues here," he said. "This would be a commercial version of Cape Canaveral. So it would be a historical first in the world."
That's tantalizing on the Space Coast. The area has undergone an identity crisis since the shuttle program ended in 2011. Thousands have lost jobs, home values have plunged and the declining population has forced some schools to close.
"I've been here my whole life," says Dale Ketcham, director of spaceport research and technology at the University of Central Florida. "I would be extremely disappointed to watch a new, commercial, exciting, innovative, clean, new way of launching develop in Texas."
But NASA is reluctant to give up Shiloh.
Any commercial company already has everything it needs on existing government sites, says Bob Cabana, director of the Kennedy Space Center. Putting those sites to use would be good for NASA and taxpayers.
"We have a launch pad. We have infrastructure that is available," he says. "We want to make it available for commercial operations, and we want them to be as autonomous as they possibly can be."
Already SpaceX launches commercial missions from government sites here. But Musk and other space entrepreneurs want their own site free of access, environmental and other government restrictions.
Shiloh's ideal because it's on the Space Coast, says Frank Dibello, president and chief executive officer of Space Florida, the state's economic development agency for space. But it also is isolated enough that it won't interfere with neighboring government sites or residential communities.
"The state needs to have a commercially operated space port that is separate from federal property," he says.
At a recent luncheon of the National Space Club Florida Committee, DiBello said the launch site could create hundreds of jobs, and it could be ready in just a few years. He said commercial space flight always has been part of U.S. space policy.
"As federal budgets become even tighter over the next decade both the Department of Defense as well as other civil agencies are going to depend more and more on commercial reliance and commercial activities," he said.
Many environmentalists worry a launch site on land now managed by the Merritt Island National Wildlife Refuge would jeopardize birds, wetlands and historic, cultural treasures such as an 18th century sugar plantation.
Hamilton shares these fears. But she believes the Space Coast can balance its ambitions for the future with the preservation of natural spaces like Shiloh.
"It would be hard to accept, but you know I want to see, on the other hand, I do want to see space industry expand in this area," she says.
Musk says he wants to decide where to put his commercial orbital launch site by the end of the year.


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My Aunt Evalee had emergency open heart surgery this past Friday.
A clot moved from her leg to her heart. Fortunately my niece was there and called 911. The surgery was successful though initial efforts to remove the ventilator were not successful.
Today was the best news I have received in a long time. She is off the ventilator, became conscious and able to answer some questions.
Aunt Evalee is 82 years old and has lived a very full life. She is the last of all the elders in my family.
I know I rarely post, am no writer and really don't undertsand all the tech stuff, etc.. I spin them, enjoy them and call our guru's when I have questions.
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Florida's Military Community Braces for Budget Cuts
March 01, 2013 | WMFE- Today is Sequestration Day, the day that Congress' mandatory budget cuts kick in at one minute before midnight. If the so-called sequestration takes effect, it will impact every federal spending program and have wide reaching effects throughout the nation including here in Florida.
Although it will take weeks or even months before the true impact is felt, Florida's military community is already preparing for the impact.
Sequestration would severely hurt Florida's defense industry, according to Governor Rick Scott. He's concerned because it contributes more than $73 billion and 754,000 jobs to the state economy.
Scott also worries about the military bases – especially parts of the Panhandle, where 35 percent of the economy is linked to the military bases.
"It's going to hurt us." Scott said. "We're a big military state. We're the most military friendly state. We've got 20 military bases, three unified commands. They've got to do the right thing up there."
Scott wrote a letter earlier this week to President Obama stating that sequestration will mean "dramatic reductions to our National Guard", which threatens our ability to respond to wildfires this spring and hurricanes this summer.
During an appearance in Lakeland Wednesday, Scott called the budget situation "disappointing."
"They're getting paid up in Washington." Scott said. "They need to do what I had to do. I had to balance a budget. I walked in with a $3.7 billion budget deficit I walked in there I had to figure out the right way to allocate those dollars, prioritizing what's important."
They're prioritizing where to cut at MacDill Air Force Base. Commander Colonel Scott DeThomas supervises about a third of the 3,000 civilian workers at MacDill Air Force Base. Most of the civilians could face furloughs beginning in late April that would equate to a 20 percent pay cut.
"So it's going to be a dramatic impact on the base how we do business to lose basically 20 percent of the force, such a critical element of what we do out here that's going to be an impact," explains DeThomas. "The third big piece that's going to be a great impact is on the mission."
DeThomas is receiving guidance from his commanders who have identified almost $7 million in construction and maintenance projects to delay. But as commander of the 6th Air Mobility Wing, what concerns DeThomas most is a 20 percent cut in flying of the refueling tankers and Gulf Stream jets.
"What you'll probably see is instead of crews being proficient, you might see them barely qualified to fly the plane. Depending on how we institute the cuts you might see us take people off the planes and just sit them for a short period of time in hopes that once we get through the end of the year we'll get back to flying normal."
DeThomas says there will be a trickledown drain on airman readiness from boom operators to pilots.
"When the call comes – I may or may not be able to answer the call with the right amount or the right flavor because of the fact that we've allowed the training to slip."
DeThomas is also preparing his military families for the stress that comes with budget cuts. A family resiliency training session is set today for families throughout the wing.
"We'll bring families out; we'll introduce some of the tools that our command is getting us smart on to help cover things that will prepare them mentally, physically, socially and economically for being able to handle the burdens that may come with sequestration." DeThomas Says.
Veterans are another segment of Florida's military community. Reportedly, their benefits are not a part of the automatic cuts. However Michael Dakduk, Executive Director of Student Veterans of America, is skeptical.
"You wonder are there administrative cuts?" Dakduk says. "There has been a bit of gray area on what could be cut in the VA."
He's specifically worried about the Transition Assistance Program called TAP. It helps active duty military transition into civilian life.
"When we talk about TAP that's an interagency program so somebody else, a different agency is affected by that. It will affect the program."
That would mean less opportunity for veterans seeking help with education, entrepreneurship and technical training when leaving the military.


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RALEIGH, North Carolina - UNCW and the Carolina RailHawks turned up the offense in the second, combing for six goals as the clubs battled to a 3-all stalemate in a soccer exhibition at WakeMed Soccer Park in Raleigh last weekend.
Neither team would score in the opening half, but that would all change in the second half beginning with a penalty kick goal by UNCW's Mateo Cardona. The penalty was set up when Jamie Dell was fouled in the penalty area.
Carolina would score the next two goals to take the lead before the Seahawks would tie the game for the first of two times in the half. Jack Ward drew the Seahawks level with a left-footed salvo that tied the game at 2-all.
The RailHawks netted the next goal to go back in front 3-2, but Colin Bonner would tie the game when he converted a rebound off a shot by Nathaniel Goodwin with five minutes remaining in the second half.
"Any time you score three goals in a game, it's pleasing, but to do so against the caliber of team as strong as the Railhawks, it is especially pleasing," said UNCW Head Coach Aidan Heaney. "We passed the ball better and showed more courage to do so in the second half, and were rewarded for our endeavor. Jack Ward scored a tremendous goal, and the quality that Nathaniel showed in the buildup to Colin Bonner's goal was excellent. It was an encouraging start to our spring season."
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I'm really excited about this. The title is, The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton. I selected all the quotations, and they are all single sentences. The material is copiously categorized and indexed in various ways, for ease of access.
I have a books page about it, which includes the Introduction, back cover text, table of contents, and excerpts. It's published by Saint Benedict Press (recently merged with TAN Books). Saint Benedict has a book page for it and so does TAN Books. Or you can order it from amazon. If you're a fan of Chesterton, please spread the word!
Anyone interested in this book may also enjoy my extensive G. K. Chesterton and C. S. Lewis web pages (many hundreds of links); also my links-pages devoted to Malcolm Muggeridge, Cardinal Newman, and Romantic and Imaginative Theology. The latter gets into J. R. R. Tolkien, Charles Williams, George MacDonald, and related writers and ideas.
It's all a labor of love for me. I wouldn't trade my occupation / vocation for anything. I'm delighted to have the privilege of playing any part at all in spreading an awareness and appreciation for the great, inimitable G. K. Chesterton. I first discovered him as an evangelical Protestant in the early 1980s, when I read Orthodoxy. I thought he was a font of wisdom then, and I have had no reason to change my opinion in the 25 or so years since. It's a joy and great honor to be able to function as an editor for the purpose of making his thought more widely known. When we love a great author, we always want to "spread the message" so that others can share our pleasure in reading his or her work.
The mark of wisdom, I think (as also in the case of great art and music), is a certain timelessness or what might be called a perpetual relevance. What Chesterton wrote in 1905 or 1925 is quite often as relevant today as anything written in the leading journals or other avenues of opinion in the last month. This is because truth is truth, and doesn't change according to fashion or the spirit of the age (zeitgeist).
So, for instance, to use an example of a topic that is always a matter of concern: abstinence; he observes:
Another example of a thing that never changes, are the pretensions and follies of the intelligentsia, or (a disproportionately large portion of) academia, or the self-defined "smart people." Chesterton is unflinchingly honest and right on target here, as always:
Why is it that for the last two or three centuries the educated have been generally wrong and the uneducated relatively right?
Anyhow, it is in this intellectual world, with its many fools and few wits and fewer wise men, that there goes on perpetually a sort of ferment of fashionable revolt and negation.
If anybody chooses to say that I have founded all my social philosophy on the antics of a baby, I am quite satisfied to bow and smile.
Shakespeare is quite himself; it is only some of his critics who have discovered that he was somebody else.
It is an almost invariable rule that the man with whom I don't agree thinks I am making a fool of myself, and the man with whom I do agree thinks I am making a fool of him.
The Bible must be referring to wallpapers, I think, when it says, "Use not vain repetitions, as the Gentiles do."
A man's friend likes him but leaves him as he is: his wife loves him and is always trying to turn him into somebody else.
Over and above the horrible rubbish-heap of the books I have written, now filling the pulping-machines or waste-paper baskets of the world, there are a vast number of books that I have never written, because a providential diversion interposed to protect the crowd of my fellow-creatures who could endure no more.
The citations presented herein cover the whole gamut of human experience and thought: from religion and morality (as we would expect of an unapologetic apologist), to the romance and wonder of childhood, the arts, literature, science, philosophy, economic and social observations, agnosticism, education, history, the follies and foibles of the intelligentsia, the wealthy, and politicians, incessant media bias, everyday life, the family, and gender differences: all offered with astounding insight, playful wit, and a sort of childlike innocence that Chesterton seemed to have never lost.
If one wishes to discover and explore the deep wellsprings of the distinctive Christian worldview, there are few better places to start than the voluminous writings of G. K. Chesterton.


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In recent years, analysis techniques have become increasingly used by police forces, international organizations and the private sector.
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The central tasks of analysis are to:
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The Israeli occupation of The West Bank and Gaza Strip has clearly been a hardship for the Palestinian people there, but activist Dorothy Naor (left) believes it has also inflicted deep costs on Israel as well.
Dorothy Naor (bio below) will present a talk titled "The Cost of Colonization and Occupation to Israelis and Palestinians," May 27 at 7:00 pm at the Glaser Center, 547 Mendocino Avenue in Santa Rosa.
Dorothy Naor (bio below) observes that each generation in Israel grows up amidst a near-constant series of preparations for warfare, something she sees as shaping the character of the nation in some undesirable ways.
The continuing expansion of Jewish settlements in the West Bank and Gaza (such as those enclosed by the protective wall in the photo at right) is not just condoned by the Israeli government, Naor objects, but heavily subsidized, too.
Dr. Dorothy Naor lives in Herzliah, near Tel Aviv. An activist with he Israeli dissident groups New Profile, an Israeli feminist and anti-militarist group, she participates in virtually all activities having to do with occupation policy and civil rights in Israel. Most recently, she has become involved in the Israeli Committee for Residency Rights (ICRR), an ad hoc committee working on residency rights for Palestinians and for allowing entry to the West Bank. Dorothy takes people on informal tours to the West Bank and is one of those who responds to the many calls of distress from people in the West Bank who are stuck at checkpoints, need medical care in Israel, etc.
Dorothy was born in San Francisco but immigrated to Israel in her early 20s, in 1958. She has lived in Israel for most of the past 50 years. She worked for many years as a teacher of English and has a PhD in Education. One of her main concerns is the effect the occupation is having on Israeli society, i.e., increase in domestic violence and violence in general, brutalization of the young, increase in mental illness, etc.


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moose o death wrote:jacks annoying as all hell. if i was parson, i'd prefer to take stanley on the walk next time. you'd get a more intelligent conversation...not saying jacks not intelligent just terrible conversationalist
HandofShadows wrote:Finally getting to spend some time with Jack. He may be playing the fool, but he clearly is not one (as others have said). Interesting to see a little how he thinks...
I think it a real good canidate for bring part of the group out to "break the world".
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