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Saturday 25 March 1950
It was Saturday, under the sign of Aries. The US president was Harry S. Truman (Democratic).
Famous people born on this day include Serge Wronsky and Chuck Greenberg.
Cheaper by the Dozen, directed by Walter Lang, was one of the most viewed movies released in 1950
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- As the day falls close to the vernal equinox, similar to the way Christmas falls near the winter solstice, both days are regarded as one of the Quarter Days to Christians in the British Isles. (see below)
- Traditional date of the start of the new year in England and Wales, until the Calendar Act of 1752 (called Lady Day - see below).
- Traditional date of the death (circa 33), of Jesus, central figure in Christianity (b. circa 1 BC in traditional dating)
- In Christianity, March 25 is typically celebrated as the day of the Annunciation so long as it does not coincide with a Sunday or during Holy Week. (see below)
- The Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary (Lady Day) - this date is nine months before Christmas Day, and is based on the traditional date in Catholicism of a 1 BC - Annunciation of the Virgin Mary and conception of Jesus.
- One of the four Irish Quarter days in the Irish calendar.
- Saint Dysmas, the 'Good Murderer'
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- The date of the passing of Sauron in J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings. Many fans celebrate this day by throwing parties.
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- Serge Wronsky: Latvian astrologer who counseled the Nazi Rudolph Hess, giving him a suggested date to make his ill-fated flight to England.
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the NIH. The National Center for Advancing Translational Sciences' goal will be to advance molecules from discovery all the way into the clinic. PhRMA, the drug company's trade organization, has come out in support of the new initiative, whereas BIO, the biotech trade organization, has not yet weighed in with an opinion. The preliminary plan is to move about $700 million of research projects that have already been started at other government labs, such as the NIH, under the umbrella of the new institute. Plans for the new Center are still in flux, but the concept is a bold one, especially coming at a time of tremendous pressure on government spending. It has also elicited concerns in the academic community that this will cannibalize funds available for basic research. This new expenditure is in addition to the government's pre-existing commitment of funds to the various centers and institutions of the NIH, which support a large number of basic and applied intramural and extramural research projects through various types of grants.
Other government agencies, such as DARPA, also invest in basic research projects in both academia and industry. Over the past 20 years the Pentagon has been the recipient of $3.6 billion in federal spending that it has directed towards breast cancer research. Though a worthwhile undertaking, many question how this relates to the basic mission of national defense. Some $250 million have been budgeted for this in 2011, although financial pressures on the defense budget may result in some or all of this money being cut.
State governments have also joined in to provide financial support for biotechs. This assistance goes beyond incentives that states have traditionally used to attract new companies and/or manufacturing plants. For example, numerous states have invested considerable sums for stem cell research, including California ($300 million/year for 10 years), Massachusetts ($100 million year/10 years), and Connecticut ($10 million/year over 10 years). In Washington state, where I live, $350 million in tobacco settlement money has been pledged towards investments in biomedical research through the Life Sciences Discovery Fund. This investment includes funds directed towards applied academic research as well as a grant to a biotech company that will yield a return on the investment if successful. Due to the fact that a majority of states are dealing with large budgetary gaps due to the economic downturn, funds previously promised by state governments may not actually materialize.
Drug companies and federal and state governments are not the only groups supplying the capital that fuels our country's biomedical research engine. In the second half of my survey, I will review other organizations that fund the research and development of new drugs. These include venture capital firms, open source initiatives, private companies, disease-focused charities, and even patients themselves. These groups, whether for-profit or non-profit, all perform a valuable service by plugging numerous holes in the drug development-funding dike.
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Hi all – I thought it would be useful to have a page where I can write down any questions from readers for which I'm hoping to shoot a video answer. That way I hopefully won't forget anything.
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Greg, could you make a video about the essentials of playing close to the table? As a long range chopper I feel that I lose a lot of reaction time when close to the table. I often resort to pushing or blocking and I'm unable to take an aggressive approach.
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ty greg, love your work!, please make a video on tactics for modern defenders like 3rd ball attacks and serve then quickly back-up for chopping defense. or how to position like JSK


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Time is running out for Congress to pass the Klamath Basin Restoration Agreement. But at the White House Tribal Nations Conference late last week, there were glimmers of hope that it could still be possible. President Obama told the group he's committed to working with tribal nations to protect natural resources and honor their heritage. Kathy Hill – a member of the Klamath Tribal Council who was on the negotiating team for the agreement – was there, and said she heard mixed views about the future of the water agreement. "[U.S. Interior Secretary] Sally Jewell was optimistic," said Hill. "But then another person, not with the administration, told me, 'You know, nothing's going to get through this House this year.' And that's the mood, I think maybe, in Washington, D.C." The agreement governs water use in southern Oregon and northern California. It was hammered out by more than 40 parties, but expires at the end of this year without congressional approval. The Senate bill (SB 133) is stalled until a companion House bill is introduced. For that, all eyes are on Congressman Greg Walden, who has said it's a priority. Parts of the agreement affect more than Oregon and California. It calls for removal of four older dams in the region. However, if the agreement expires, PacifiCorp could upgrade and re-license the dams instead, passing the costs on to ratepayers in a half-dozen states...more
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- Date of birth: Oct 13, 1946
- Date of passing: Apr 11, 2014
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This memorial website was created in memory of my brother, Neil Basen, 67, born on October 13, 1946 and passed away on April 11, 2014. We will remember him forever.
Neil Kiev Basen, 67 of Madison, WI, formerly of East Rockaway, NY, died peacefully in his sleep April 11, 2014. Neil received both his bachelor and master degrees From Indiana State University and did his doctoral work at Iowa University. He was considered an authority on the "Golden Age" of the Socialist Party and also a scholar on Kate Richards O'Hare, the "first lady" of American Socialism, as reflected in his publications and referenced in the works of other scholars. Neil first came to Madison to work at the School for Workers. Most recently, Neil worked for the Union Cab of Madison Cooperative and was a labor arbitrator working with multiple companies throughout the country.
Neil is now in heaven with his loving father and mother, Walter and Violet Basen and his recently departed sister (4/22/14) Marla C. Basen. RIP Neil,
Your loving sister and brother-in-law, Dana and Richie
We invite all family and friends to leave their memories, stories, tributes, condolences and pictures here.
"Hello Neil, just wanted to say a belated Happy Birthday on Friday, October 13th. Hope the Cubs can come back and make it to the World Series and maybe even play the Yankees...that would be something in Chicagoland!!! Hope you are making good fares up there and meeting a lot of new friends. Please say hello to your Mom, Dad, and Marla. With Love, Affection, and Remembrance...Rich"
"Dear Neil, so the Cubbies finally did it; winning their 3rd World Series and the first one since 1908. I know you were watching and probably had a pretty good view of the games. You are in our thoughts, especially this time of year during the Passover holy days when families gather to celebrate the exodus from Egypt and and remember those that have left us for a better place. We miss you and especially your insightful views of the world and sports. 2016 was a year to remember!!! Peace & Love Forever!!!"
"Dear Neil,
Not a day goes by that I don't think about you, especially now since it's baseball season. Rich and I missed you at Spring training. The best times we had together were at a baseball game. Your knowledge and passion of baseball always made those games special for me. Love and miss you big brother."
"Hi Neil,
It's been ages since we chatted, so this may take a while to reach you:) We were actually closest when we were very young. You lived in Far Rockaway and my family-- and some of my parents' friends-- spent a couple of summers in Far Rockaway... not far... from where you lived. The bungalow colony was long, narrow and filled with celebrating adults. So I rejoiced in the opportunity to escape when I could to meet you on the boardwalk. You were like the tour guide, showing me the area, and we even would get an ice cream someplace on the boardwalk.
When we were teens and my parents would drive over to the Weiss', you and Peter (send my love to him, too, by the way!) and I would play punchball on Walnut Road (I can't believe I still remember this!!). You never ran out of things to say and had a story for everything... and many of them were quite funny. When you first moved across the street from Peter, you were so excited about your new home. You gave me the grand tour, the first time I came that way after you moved in.
you were brilliant, and as I read through this site, i learned to my delight of your accomplishments. Way to go Neil!!!
Then there was...ahhhhh... 1979. We were the same age and had gone to college during the 60s in the same part of the country: the midwest. You to Indiana State (Terre Haute, I believe-- correct me if I'm wrong...lol), and me to Michigan State. But back to 1979: "The Magic Man" against Larry Byrd for the most watched college national championship game... ever. We talked about that after the game for several years, though as our lives deviated in direction, our communication became more sparse.
I was surprised and saddened to hear of your passing (still not sure what happened), but when I think of my family who have crossed that rainbow bridge, I often think of you. And I imagine you are regaling many of our late relatives with one of your tales.
Rest in peace,
Luv, Cuz Randy"
"Dear Neil, Hard to believe that you would have been 70 years old on the 13 and I was just 65 yesterday. I've had many conversations with you (in my mind), every topic you can think of, except politics. Not a day goes by that I don't think of you and Marla. There's so many exciting things going on now, the Cubs are in the NLCS and there's an imminent Presidental election. hope you're watching from above!
xoxo, D"
"Dear Neil, so do you think the Cubbies will actually do it this year, after all the Mets are not around to stop them this year. You are in our thoughts, especially this time of year during the high holy days when families gather to celebrate a new year and remember those that have left us for a better place. Be at peace Neil and LETS GO CUBS!!!"
"Thinking of you, Neil, always makes me smile. Getting to know your sister, Dana and her husband Richard was an excellent way to celebrate your life. I wonder of what you would think of Blue Jays vs. Indians in the ALCS?"
"To my big brother Neil, you would have been 69 years old today. Not a day goes by without me thinking about you. I love you, Dana"
"It's been one year since my brother-in-law passed away suddenly last year and Dana & I still share special moments about his life. As most people know Neil was a historical scholar who researched the socialist movement in the USA, but he was also a very down to earth kind of person. He never asked for much but always tried to give as much as he could. I always enjoyed discussing politics & especially sports with him...you could tell Neil really knew his stuff. Dana & I both miss him, but we know that he is in a very good place with his Mom, Dad, and dear sister Marla. Rest in Peace my brother Neil."
"Hi Neil,
It's hard to believe that it's been a year since you passed away. What a year it has been, first you, then Marla. But you're both with Mommy (Mother) and Daddy (etc.) now and that is a good place to be. All of you are together; forever happy, healthy and whole.
I'm sure you know that Richie and I went to Madison last June to celebrate your life with your friends/co-workers. I get farklempt thinking about our time spent there. They are such wonderful people. Rich and I felt welcomed and comforted by each and every one. You were truly loved, valued, respected and missed by everyone you knew.
I now understand why you made Madison, WI your home and never came back East to live. We visited the places you frequented; the Historical Society, Union Cab Company, Miller Park and of course the Crystal Corner and left a part of you at each site, including in "No. 22".
Going through the boxes of your writings and materials was very overwhelming for both Richie and me. We understood their significance but in the limited time we had in Madison were clueless what to do with it all. Two of your wonderful friends, Laurie and Marty, came to our rescue. With Laurie's librarian skills and Marty's assistance, they were able to give order to your papers on Kate Richards O'Hare and your other materials and find a home for them in the Kansas State Historical Society. Because of their efforts your research has a home and you have the recognition as the scholar that you truly were.
Rich and I are off to Florida in a few weeks and plan to scatter the rest of your remains on the same site we scattered Mom, Dad and Marla. We're raised several glasses of wine toasting you this past week and some of your friends have added their own postings. I just got off the phone with Marty and he'll be attending the Brewers/Pirates game tomorrow and along with a few of your baseball buddies hoisting a few with you in mind.
Please know that I think of you, Mommy, Daddy and Marla every day and you all are always in my heart.
Your loving sister,
"Hi Neil,
I know you can hear me out there because you always stayed tuned in to what I had to say. I am sending this from a friend's computer because I won't have time to get to my office today. Thank you for bringing your sister Dana and her husband Richie into my life. Your memory lives on in our hearts and your friends at Union Cab all miss you. You would love to see the new technology we are installing. It makes it much simpler to do business and allows drivers to run more calls. Nothing not even this stuff, would change your speed. Keep on rolling Neil and I'll see you at our destination. With friendship, Paul"
"Thinking of you on your birthday.......Miss you and love the picture on this page,I was with you when it was taken.
RIP Cuz,
What a difficult year. And what a lovely tribute to Neil.
Our family's best to you.
You created a beautiful memorial site for Neil.
The photographs you chose are terrific and spark many memories for me, of both Neil and Marla.
I wish you all the best, Dana.
Much love,
"I grew up across from the Basens on Walnut Rd. In East Rockaway. Neil was my cousin and laughed about so many things together.He loved th e Dodgers and I loved the Yankees and The Mick. Miss you Neil, send my love to Walter, Violet , and Marla. Peace and much Love, Richie"
"Neil was my brother-in-law and I had known him for over 25 years. I shared many special moments with him and my wife Dana, his sister. Neil was passionate about his work and beliefs, he was a recognized scholar in the field of labor relations and wrote frequently about the topic. He also loved sports and we spent many moments debating the value of professional sports athletes, especially baseball players. We did not always agree but I very much enjoyed our conversations. Neil was very knowledgeable about his work, studies and sports. I always respected his views because his arguments were always based on facts. I know my wife & I will miss him very much and we hope that he passed in peace and is now with his loving family in heaven. Rest In Peace Neil."
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It has been four months since I have arrived back in Sydney Australia after living over seas (Basel, Switzerland) for the past three years.
Unfortunately, I had to leave behind a beautiful city, which holds many memories, and some amazing people, one in which is my boyfriend, whom I am doing long distance with. In May - June of 2015, he will be graduating. I would absolutely love to travel back to Basel and see him graduate, as well as spend time with friends. After living in Basel for three years, being use to traveling continuously, and feeling comfortable with the language barrier, I feel more than ready to travel independently, not only because I want to see my boyfriend, but because I just love to travel. However, my parents seem to think seventeen is too young. To some extent I agree with them, but for the most part I feel they are just being a typical parent, over protective and most definitely over dramatising any situation that could happen whilst I am away. So, referring back to my question, is seventeen too young to travel alone?
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Is seventeen too young to travel to Europe?
Is Seventeen too young to travel to Europe?
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I think that's a question that can only be answered by your parents - people on a travel board have absolutely no knowledge of your personality, abilities, maturity etc.
Do really think that they'll be swayed by the opinions of strangers? Di
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It's impossible to answer that question without knowing you. Some seventeen year olds are perfectly capapble of going off to the other side of the world on their own. Others can barely navigate their own home country without adult supervision.
When you lived in Basel, was that with your parents? Do they have any adult people they know there and trust to look after you on arrival? Do they know your boyfriend?
Lots of European teenagers go on backpacking trips without parents. But they usually don't have to do deal with visas within Europe. And I'm sure they have parental permission.
The way I see it there are three questions.
1. What does the law say? If you go to Europe alone, do you need your parents permission? Could they report you as a runaway and get you sent home? Will you be allowed into Europe by immigration authorities?
2. Emotional and intellectual maturity. Can you handle any potential problems? What will you do if things go wrong? If a thief steals your passport and money? Of course, I know people over thirty years old who are not capable of dealing with such things.
3. Money. Who will pay for the trip? If your parents don't want you to go, they aren't likely to pay for it. Can you afford to go without their help?
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I wouldn't pay for my 17 yr old to travel.. will your parents pay for you.. is that what you expect?
If you want to go back and see your boyfriend( which frankly I still think is primary reason) and to travel... work and save some money and do it then.
Age is not a huge factor.. I think some 17 yr olds would do fine.. but I doubt your parents are over dramatizing and by saying so I can see why they may be nervous ,, you are not willing to understand their concerns.. but I think you would be wise to wait till you were 18 as then there is no hassles booking hotels or hostels, at 17 there may be some hassles( although not insurmountable)
I think if you really miss your bf ask parents if you could just go back and stay with family friends for awhile..
PS.. none of us know full story.. for instance.. maybe boyfriend is creepy 27 yr old bum.. lol .. that might influence what some of us say..
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Agree that we need to know more.
Were you living with parents in Switz?
Are you expecting parents to pay for this trip? Or will you be financing it yourself?
How old is the BF and what is the relationship with him? Do your parents know and like him?
What are your plans after the trip? Are you enrolled in college at home so they know you intend to return?
I tend to think of 17 year olds as adults - since I was self-supporting at that age - putting myself through college. But some kids are not capable of coping with all sorts of problems at that point. Or focused on making a strong future for themselves - versus just having a good time.
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Caveat: I didn't travel at that age - I had no money. I received a small inheritance and at 19 spent 5 week of the summer in europe with my BF - but was paying for it myself and had been living on my own for more than 2 years. And my BF was a 24 year old grad student and also self-supporting.
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Your writing is more like that of a 30 year old. I say you can go. Or your parents go to Europe and your boyfriend visits Australia.
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Here comes the European view.
Here in Europe, maturity comes much earlier than in, say, the USA. The legal age in Europe is 18 - with all rights and responsibilities.
You find many Europeans travelling on their own with 15, 16 or 17 years. I did it myself, usually together with a friend or two. And in times before cell phones.
With cell phones, internet and credit cards, you are always safe. If something extraordinary happens (like an accident or so), you can easily communicate with your parents or others can do.
In Europe, you are extremely safe. Almost everywhere, English is spoken, food and water are safe, medical services are the best in the world and the crime rate is very low. You have public transportation and you already know the ground. What should happen?
What you can do is putting a sheet of paper in your wallet with the following text:
Für den Notfall:
Ich bin aus Sydney, Australien, und reise allein durch Europa. Im Notfall bitte meine Eltern verständigen.
Namen der Eltern: (names of parents)
Telefon: (parents' telephone number)
email: (email adress)
Enjoy your trip to Europe!
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First, your post is not written well. You say (in first person) you were living in Switzerland the past three years, and now you're back in Sydney, Australia, but you don't clarify anything else. Readers can easily assume you were on your own in Basel for three years, so what's up with your question?
Mary Stuart ruled two nations before she was 18 years old. At age 16, she married Francis II and became ruling queen, however briefly. It seems to me times were much tougher for a young woman in the 1500's. I won't even mention what 17-year-olds were doing in Ancient Rome.
These days, for some parents, obsessively coddling their kids has elevated to "normal" status. I have a steady turnover of young interns in my business, and, occasionally, I meet a kid who is riddled with fear. And then I meet the parents…
The boyfriend issue would be more a red flag to me. Based on my own experience, I think a 17-year-old heart and mind are too young to truly understand love and romance, no matter how (pick your superlative) things appear at the moment. There are exceptions. And then there's the question of how much influence the BF experience is driving your desire.
Your request for travel independence might be treated differently if the BF didn't exist. Everything combined is asking a lot from any parent.
The simple answer to your question: I've met many 17-year-olds who were mature enough to handle what many would consider adult adventures. Our opinions won't matter much. If your parents are legally responsible for you and their love for you is all-powerful, their opinion is the only opinion that matters.
Find a way to empower their trust in you.
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Hi narteena,
When I was 13 years old and my sister was 15, we were attending boarding school in Switzerland. At the end of the term, we took an overnight train by ourselves from Switzerland to Spain, where my parents were living. Then we flew by ourselves from Spain to NYC to live with our grandmother.
We were already experienced world travellers at that age, so we didn't look at this as unusual or particularly challenging. This was in the 1960s, before there was even reliable international telephone service for the average guy.
As others have said, the answer is more of a function of you and your abilities than a strict function of your age.
Have fun as you plan!
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>>I think a 17-year-old heart and mind are too young to truly understand love and romance<<
Good afternoon, weisenheimer!
Some people here must be VERY old. And I am not young anymore. But my memory is still intact enough to remember how I felt when I was young.
I always encouraged my children to travel on their own. It did no harm to them.
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Just taking a train or plane yourself as a teen is NOT the same thing as taking off for Switz with who knows what plans or arrangements for a potentially long-terms stay. Out DDs took the Paris Metro and spent the day shopping by themselves when they were 11 and 14 - and we were fine with it - since they were forn NYC and used to large cities and subways. But I would not have ket them go alone, stay in a hostel for several weeks. Just not the same thing.
To me what is key are:
Who is paying for the trip - if it;s the parent's money they get to decide
what will the living arrangements be? If she is planning on staying with the BF - are they both mature enough for that and what is their relationship like (if he is also 17 or 18 does he have his own apt? would they be living with his parents? Would she be staying in a hostel? Or?)
I think relying on a relationship with a boy that age for living arrangements - esp after a separation of some time - may not be realistic.
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I agree.. just travelling to meet family or friends by oneself is not the same as travelling independently.
I was flown to Amsterdam at 12( turned 13 that summer) to meet my French grandmother and spend the summer with her.. during that summer I was put on trains to visit other family members or family friends.
I didn't book the tickets.. I didn't book hotels, I was however capable, trustworthy and confident enough to follow instructions. That is however not the same as travelling independently .
My nieces are German.. living in Germany.. and yes.. they have travelled around on their own from 15 -16,, but they were never alone but usually with groups of friends going to music festivals.. and they are fully bilingual.. and mom and dad were only a phone call away if they got into a pickle.. maybe an hours flight or a few hours on the trains.. not an entire 24 hr flight away.. huge difference. My daughter has travelled locally around our province since last year at 17.. and I am encouraging her trip next year to Europe.. she will then just have turned 19.
I do agree though.. a lot depends on you.. and your parents know you best. You said you travelled around a bit while you lived in Switzerland.. so its not like your parents were super over protective..
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note.. just reread your post.. you didn't say you travelled independently but that you travelled constantly.. does that mean with your parents( in which case they still did all the planning etc )
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That you so much for your replies. Maybe I should have added a bit more detail.
I apologise if I did not make things clear enough x
1. I lived in Basel with my family.
2. I have a very open relationship with my parents, which is very important to me. whilst I was in Basel, I was always out the house. The transportation in Europe is amazing, reliable and easy to use. Hence my parents were willing to let me go out into town, stay out late, and come and go as I please. Bottom line is, my parents were comfortable with me going out, they trusted me and knew where I went.
3. I have every intention to pay for this trip myself. I personally believe If I worked for the money, it'll make the trip more satisfying and enjoyable, knowing I worked hard for the money.
4. My parents love my boyfriend, they know him well. I completely understand some of your statements on being too young to be in "Love". However, thats your own personal opinion. After he graduates he will be coming to Sydney, as he is doing an internship for a year before he goes off to university. I'm saying this because I'm sure most of you are thinking my boyfriend is driving my desire to go visit. I can honestly say, yes it is a little. I'm in love what can I say, but I have close friends there as well. So my trip is not purely based on my boyfriend. I know he is coming to see me either way, even if I can't go visit him.
5. As mentioned before, I lived there. I have close friends & family friends living there. Hotels and hostels are out of the picture. I will definitely be staying at a friends house. Potentially my boyfriends house, but not sure yet.
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Lots of people your age "travel" on their own, taking planes or trains. The real problem may be hotels. Most hotels won't rent to people under age 18. If you have someone in Basel with whom you can stay, and if your parents give you the nihil obstat, I don't see a problem.
People used to get married at age 16 and younger, within my lifetime. I knew a girl of 16 who raised her two younger siblings when their parents were killed in a car accident. However, times change. It's not acceptable any more. You can't just continue to do things as they were done in Marie Antoinette's day, even if you don't coddle your kids. My oldest daughter used to take care of her little sister after school from the age of 11, walking her to piano lessons, taking her to choir practice. I would get arrested for that these days.
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If you're still living at home, depending on your parents for financial support, and they are still legally responsible for you, I don't think it matters what any of us think. Your parents are the ones who make the decision, and IMO it doesn't matter who's paying for the trip.
On the other hand, if you're living on your own, paying your own rent and financially supporting yourself in every way, then you can do whatever you wish and can afford.
These are just the facts of childhood v. adulthood. I have little doubt you would be fine traveling at 17 years of age. I did the same thing, but my parents approved.
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#1 As a mother, I would feel uncomfortable having you travel to Europe on your own. My daughter did, and it was a big mistake.
#2 And MUCh more important, aren't you in school at that time of year ??? Graduating from high school isn't that big a deal. What, you'd travel all that way for an hour or two graduation ceremony and to spend a couple of days with the boy and your friends, and then fly back to Sydney and to school ? Madness.
You mentioned that you've now been back in Oz for four mos. I think this is a simple matter of being homesick for Basel. Buck up, kid, and try to be a little more mature, sensible.
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"I completely understand some of your statements on being too young to be in "Love"."
I can only speak for myself. I'm far from "old," whatever that number is. It's important to be clear. Love at any age is wonderful. I would never discourage anyone, no matter what age, from experiencing it (within reason, of course).
"Hence my parents were willing to let me go out into town, stay out late, and come and go as I please."
My parents gave me the same freedom at 17, as long as I didn't travel too far from them. I had a job. I paid for my own car. I was 18 when I took my first trip to NYC, to be in a commercial. My dad was not very supportive of my going alone, but my mom insisted I go. I went with a girlfriend, and my mother paid for her ticket. We had a blast, even though our hotel room was robbed. I moved to NYC, all by myself, barely a year later.
"I'm in love what can I say"
What can anyone say, except good luck.
"You can't just continue to do things as they were done in Marie Antoinette's day"
Where on earth did anyone recommend that on this thread?
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One very important point has only been marginally discussed so far, and that is the legal situation. You are legally a minor. You will not be let into the country, probably not even on board the plane, without consent from both(!) parents in writing - even a notarized letter may be required. A lot has changed in that respect in the world in recent years, so the experiences from our own youth are of no use. Airlines and immigration officers have become sensitive to the brink of paranoia about runaway minors, children kidnapped by one parent and taken out of the country, and such.
All this has nothing to do with your personality, experience and maturity. You sound like someone well capable of such a trip. But staff at the airports do not know you. They know the laws. As long as you're not 18 yet, you'll have to deal with legal requirements. Ask the Swiss embassy and the airline you intend to use what kind of documentation they require, and meet the strictest version of these requirements.
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Well I wouldn;t count the fact that your parents let you travel aorund Basel at 16 as anything. At 12 and 13 I routinely traveled into NYC form the suburbs for the day - sometimes with friends, sometimes alone. And our DDs traveled around the city from the age of 11/12 on the subway.
But that is NOTHING like living in a foreign country, especially when it is clear that you do not have at this time a specific place to stay.
That is what I would base this trip on. If you have a specific place to stay with friends (at their parents house?) or BF at his parents house) that would be one thing. but just to head out, without money for a hostel or hotel - and assuming someone will be willing to have you as a guest for who knows how long s IMHO too open to a whole variety of problems - from breaking up with the BF, argument with friend, parents who are tired of having an unpaid extra child in their house.
If you have said you traveled around europe with friend or BF while you were (long weekends or going to concerts/events in other cities) there I would be much more positive about your going. But it seems that there is a large part of the picture missing (where you will stay for how long - and if this is more than a casual "come see us if you visit" or a real practical official invitation - with funding discussed - whoever you say with you should be contributing to the food at least and probably also rent and utilities.
Also I don't see the length of this trip - a week, a month?????
I'm sorry - I'm usually in favor of kids traveling and learning about the world but I see a bunch of potential problems here.
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You guys are funny! The trip my sister and I took in 1968 wasn't as simple as you seem to think. There is no direct train between Montreux, Switzerland and Torremolinos Spain, so there were a few changes; and, as I said above, it was an overnight train. There were a few opportunities for my teen sister and preteen me to get into some mischief.
I don't think the Basel part of the proposed visit would be as uncertain as the international transportation -- after all, the OP lived there, has friends there, and has a boyfriend there. I thought that was the most certain aspect of the visit.
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My goodness FoodSnob, I think at any age, you would make someone else miserable.
What is the Basel III capital requirement? (That is banking joke.)
No one, I mean no one, can assure another's safety under any traveling condition even in a country as safe and boring as Switzerland.
Whatever other people did or did not do at your age, has no bearing on your current situation. Parents will err on the side of caution, because no matter how old you are, you are their little girl. (PC'ers don't bother mailing your cards and letters.) Although you sound mature for your age, and your posting is fairly devoid of emotion considering you request, it is a very difficult choice for your parents.
Here is one more consideration. Distance and time often change one's affection. Even if you feel you want to visit him, measure the sentiment every month before spending your money.
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Do look into the legal issues; you'll need an official document from your parents. They may not ask, but if they do you need to have this.
Don't know about Switzerland but in the UK you cannot book a hotel if you're under 18.
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How the hell is a writing style linked to ones ability to travel.
My writing style, spellin and gramma have always been poop.
Never had a problem with it and never prevented me visiting most of Europe when I was 17.
Quokka has just about covered every salient point.
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If I get OP's plan right, she is NOT planning to travel around Europe but plans to go to Basel.
With a few possible day trips like she did when she was living there with her parents.
This situation is pretty much the same as if she was a highschool exchange student.
IF that is correct, I'd just make the plan a bit more solid and get rid of some vagueness.
1. As quokka wrote, contact the Swiss embassy and make a list of the required official documents to enter Switzerland on your own (incl. a check if traveling underage has any impact on being able to enter Switzerland under the Schengen visa waiver scheme - assuming you're a citizen of Australia)
2. Check costs and coverage of health/ accident insurance - and make sure it does not only cover Switzerland but also Germany and France - given the location of Basel.
3. Check airfares and see if you can find a connection you can afford and which does not make you change planes in "strange" locations. Parents might feel more comfortable with one transfer in Singapore on your way to Zurich than with one super cheap option that makes you change planes three times in Kuala Lumpur, Doha and London.
4. Get in touch with your bf's parents to discuss accommodation. If they are willing to accomodate you, get them in touch with your parents to discuss it. To keep this item unclear and tell parents that you should be able to find a couch at "some other friends' " places will probably raise a red flag.
5. Distance is irrelevant. I find it extra amusing as, except maybe for New Zealand, OP's region (and home country) is full of "nearby destinations" where you can step on a poisonous snake or spider every 100 yards or fall off cliffs or get eaten up by sharks. Or catch dengue or malaria.
Unless you plan to free climb or ride the Schaffhausen falls in a barrel, there are propably few more risk-free destinations in the world than Basel. If you are planning to spend lots of time outdoors, you can think about getting shots against ticks/FSME. And, of course, adequate health insurance.
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I think this is the Mom disguised as the child writing about her concerns.
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"My goodness FoodSnob, I think at any age, you would make someone else miserable."
What an ignorant and vile thing to say to someone you don't know. If my posts make you miserable, jerk, then so be it.
"How the hell is a writing style linked to ones ability to travel."
Well, duh, it isn't. But writing style is linked to the intelligence and education of the 17-year-old, who is asking for independence and trust from her parents. What traveler hasn't suffered from bad communication?
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If Kleeblatt is right, the kid had bigger problems than Europe.
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Ah.. well the explanation is clarifys it a lot.. you are not travelling alone around Europe.. you are flying alone to stay with family or friends. I did that at 13, and yes.. even then I would travel into Paris and spend the day on my own.. so I am sure its just as safe for you now at 17 to travel around .. but I do think staying with friends or family would reassure family.. I know I would let my kids do that at that age easily.
That also explains how you think you can afford to do it on a highschoolers after school job.. because you basically just need airfare and spending money mainly right? Its not a bad plan, accomadation eats up a ton of money otherwise.
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Granted the flight was shorter and cheaper, but when we left Switzerland my daughter was 17 and she went back to visit on her own a few times. I'm not getting the big deal about this particularly if the boyfriend's family is welcoming you to stay with them.
Frankly, as the move to Switzerland was our idea and the move back to the US after 4 years was tough for our daughter who was very settled there, we felt visits back were part of the deal. We typically paid the airfare as a birthday or Christmas gift. She stayed with friends.
We never filled out any special paperwork.
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>>Here in Europe, maturity comes much earlier than in, say, the USA. The legal age in Europe is 18 - with all rights and responsibilities.<<
Same in the US.
>>. I did it myself, usually together with a friend or two.<<
Which of course is the opposite of "alone," as asked by the OP.
>>You have public transportation and you already know the ground. What should happen?<<
>> Love at any age is wonderful. I would never discourage anyone, no matter what age, from experiencing it (within reason, of course). <<
"Love" and "reason" rarely go together, especially at 17.
Oh, BTW, my answer, all things being equal: yes.
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I think the big question is - DOES the BFs family know about the is trip and will they have room for the OP? If so, then she has a settled base and the trip makes sense.
But if the family does not know - and cannot or will not provide lodging for her she does not seem to have any plan. Hoping that someone will give her a couch is a really bad plan. And she has stated she does not have the funds for a hostel or similar.
If she can get this sorted out in a reliable way the trip makes sense. If she can't (and what does that say about the relationship with the BF?) I think the idea is a poor one and likely to lead to disappointment.
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None of this matters.
It's the parents' call.
And the OP's life will not end if she has to wait a year.
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