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Panasonic's Post Focus feature arrives November 25
In July, Panasonic revealed plans to launch a feature it calls Post Focus for select camera models via a firmware update. Panasonic today announced that firmware update will be available via the Lumix Global website next Wednesday, November 25 at 01:00 GMT. The Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX8, DMC-G7, and DMC-FZ300 will be supported.
The feature, simply called Post Focus, utilizes Panasonic's Depth from Defocus technology to capture 4K-resolution video at 30fps while shifting focus through the frame. Once the capture is completed, photographers can use Post Focus to specify the desired focus point, and the camera will extract the still frame with the corresponding plane of focus. The video above shows the feature in action, and demonstrates that focus peaking can be used after capture to help determine the best point of focus for macro shots.
Press release:
Panasonic Frees Photographer's Creativity with New 'Post Focus' Technology
LUMIX DMC-GX8, DMC-G7 and DMC-FZ330 enable any area of a photograph to be in-focus after shooting
Panasonic is encouraging photographers to shoot first and focus later with a new technological function called 'Post Focus'. After taking a picture, the function enables photographers to select whichever part of the image they want to be in-focus with an easy one touch operation. Developed with Panasonic's existing 4K Photo technology, Post Focus not only prevents out-of-focus misshots but also offers greater creative freedom, and is now available via a firmware update for the LUMIX DMC-GX8, DMC-G7 and DMC-FZ330.
Post Focus has been made possible by combining the high-speed, high-precision DFD (Depth from Defocus) auto focus technology and Panasonic's 4K technology, made possible by the Venus Engine. Burst images in 4K resolution (3840 x 2160 pixels) are shot at 30 fps while detecting up to 49 areas of a frame for focus points at different depths of field.
Operation of the Post Focus function is straightforward and easy. Turn on post focus, compose and take your picture. Then, while reviewing the images simply touch the area you want the focus to be and a new image with the selected focus area will be produced as a separate photo.
In addition, this function can be used for creative purposes in different types of photography such as portrait, landscape and especially macro, where the optimal control is needed. Focus peaking, 5x magnified zoom and other fine adjustment settings can be used for even greater focus control. Several different impressions can be taken out of one picture by changing the focus and defocus within the image to select the desired subject. This assures that the photographer can select the best shot instead of out-of- focus misshots.
The Post Focus firmware update will be available at 01:00 GMT on 25th November, 2015 on the LUMIX Global site (http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/) for the LUMIX DMC-GX8, DMC-G7 and DMC-FZ330.
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Marriage "pro" photographers now use 4K movies to extract good images. No more photography but only filming.
What a pity! It's another downgrade of quality technology-inducted.
When you see beautiful marriage images of parents shooted 20 or 30 years ago with medium format cameras ; and now the crap, hyper-saturated, photoshopped images... total quality regression with hyper technological engines.
is it just me or the whole "post focus" thing is incredibly silly?
why not use DFD to obtain a depth map and create the only thing m4/3 lacks, nice background defocus?
It gets worse - In the few seconds before the message appears I tried half press focus and full press - Nothing !! Camera is stuffed.
Sympathies - This why I always hang back from the first rush and let the bugs get sorted. A previous GH4 update wanted the new function 'enabled' with a complex procedure. Follow update procedure exactly as given? Battery on full charge? Bad card, try another? Try factory reset and re-do? Good luck.
I just installed the V2.0 update to my FZ300 and now it takes ages (20+ secs) to get the viewfinder active. Then I get the message 'Please turn camera off and then on again' repeated every time. I formatted the SD card after update as instructed.
Hope this is not a giant Pana screw up !
My FZ300 updated fine and the feature seems to work as advertised.
Be interesting to see what happens to Lytro, clearly several technical ways to achieve the same post-focus effect. That said, their last camera is now temptingly discounted at around £500 versus the original price of well over a £thousand.
Here in the US, the LYTRO ILLUM was $399 and now is $449 USD in amazon.com
The thing has "40 Megaray with Constant F/2.0, 8X Optical Zoom, and 4" Touchscreen LCD".
In other word, it could be a $800 cam if Lytro removed all the "Lytro thing" inside to become a normal cam per its [lens] SPEC.
that's incredibly cheap even with import tax (I'm UK based), very tempting, in fact I'm sat here with amazon open right now. I guess the problem with the technology is its not easy to get until you see it, I told some friends and they all frowned, then I showed them the demo and they were blown away. You may be right about taking a more straightforwards approach to marketing it...
The next is 4K Focus Stacking
Varying degrees of confusion and ignorance (wakaba) about this new item, but also MFT in general and what it really produces in terms of IQ. Permit me to recommend the reading of the following article; http://www.thewanderinglensman.com/2015/11/im-really-very-fortunate-man.html
I suggest we wait and see what this can really do before condemning it to death. Only two days more to wait.
I guess I'm one of the fortunate with too many cameras. I gravitate to the GH4 for serious work over the Nikon but carry an E-PL7 in my pocket. The E-M5ii gets used for anything wobbly but I find the G7 is the better camera, b-cam to the GH4. The pro shop I use reckons most of their wedding photographers have switched from Canon to GH4, does everything, less kit to haul.
Interesting idea, though I note the FZ1000 is not supported, more's the pity.
Sadly I just realized that the longest lens I have that is capable of DFD and Post Focus in the Lumix 35-100mm 2.8. Also realizing that my Oly 40-150 2.8 (nor the Oly 300/F4 if available) will not be capable. So my statment ealier about BIFers possible enjoying this feature might have to wait until the PL 100-400g :(
That or the possibility that Oly and Panasonic will lock heads on the availability of DFD with Oly's 300mm.
Really, this is astonishing. (I mean, the responses here). There's a lot of emphasis on focus stacking, which is not what this is intended for.
If you want to do focus bracketing just download the app from the Play Store:
Full res, RAW and/or JPG, full image control, up to 1024 images per stack.
Then leave this update for what it is intended for - because for focus bracketing it isn't going to be very useful.
DPR should at least paraphrase accurately. Their description "capture 4K-resolution video at 30fps while shifting focus through the frame" seems inaccurate, both from the press release and the video.
Read the press release that DPR so lazily paraphrased:
Developed with Panasonic's existing 4K Photo technology, Post Focus not only prevents out-of-focus misshots but also offers greater creative freedom, and is now available via a firmware update for the LUMIX DMC-GX8, DMC-G7 and DMC-FZ330.
Post Focus has been made possible by combining the high-speed, high-precision DFD (Depth from Defocus) auto focus technology and Panasonic's 4K technology, made possible by the Venus Engine. Burst images in 4K resolution (3840 x 2160 pixels) are shot at 30 fps while detecting up to 49 areas of a frame for focus points at different depths of field.
Note that Panasonic go well out of their way to avoid any mention of video, in fact describing the output as "burst images in 4K resolution...at 30fps".
I'm pretty sure there are some Ricoh compact cameras that also have a focus bracketing feature.. is this trick by Panasonic just a souped up version of that?
'Panasonic is encouraging photographers to shoot first and focus later'
I read that as 'We think our user base is dumb and if they're not we encourage them to be.'
Very small sensor, small lenses, questionable 4k IQ. My phone is as bad. Adding an app that creates lowend stills...not innovative. Makers really Need to up their systems with ff4k ad good glass. Their stuff is boring and that is why sales are down.
Phhhht. You and your legacy cameras. There would have been a time you'd have been lugging around a medium format camera and mocking 35mm amateur cameras as toys.
35mm is not full frame.
Why not go to a true full frame camera - a plate camera - where the photo plate is the size of the actual final print hence full frame.
wakaba, if you're not a troll, them facts and history are not your strength.
35mm film was originally very much an amateur "toy" format. Better technology eventually made it acceptable as a "pro" format.
much like the audio cassette was never invented for HiFi purposes, but technology allowed it to become so.
Tiny sensors and small glass look bad. FF is better and closing the gap to MF. Mostly because some of the new FF lenses are close to the mathematical max and MF lenses are of an older generation.
Btw: Audio cassette is not Hifi. It was a portable format and never exceeded 8bit resolution by today's metric. The P'sonic is right about there.
Olympus was also working on 2 variations of this idea at the same time.
Theirs are called Focus Bracketing and Automatic Focus Stacking (it happens in-camera and the original shots are also kept as separate files).
They went public a couple of months ago.
MFT - more useful every day!
Only problem with a tiny sensor not much of focusing is needed anyway.....I hope Panasonic finally release a camera and ditch the m43 curse
"Only problem with a tiny sensor not much of focusing is needed anyway..."
Spoken like a true pro photographer.
Yeah, I curse up a storm when I'm climbing up rock walls or a dozen flights of stairs to a rooftop, with my 12 pounds of micro 4/3 gear instead of 30 pounds of DSLR gear... with more focal length options in the 12 pounds of gear.
As a full frame carrying climber, I can tell you that I really really hate my camera (when I'm not taking pictures). It's 7 pounds or so (no tripod, one lens, batteries + filters), but 7 pounds is really heavy. That's more than a tent and sleeping bag combined. Forget about 10kg making a difference. 100g makes a difference.
My A7 is smaller than most Panasonic cameras. Bundled with 3 primes it is heavier with probably 200g from Panasonic but IQ is from different worlds.
Panasonic hopefully will follow up on Leica SL with good body, few lenses and same mount
I really hope they make some real competitor to Sony. The other company that has potential is Canon and the rest of the bunch are pretty hopeless.
> My A7 is smaller than most Panasonic cameras.
Nice use of, if I'm not mistaken, the "red herring" fallacy. Let me try too: "my GX7 is smaller than most Sony cameras." It works! /s
> Bundled with 3 primes [...]
But as soon as you put the lenses on, the "A7 is smaller than most Panasonic cameras" turns into the "A7 is larger than any Panasonic camera".
I'm not sure why people keep praising atrocious ergonomics of the Sony. I've spent years trolling m43 forums to stop the mindless miniaturization of the cameras. And thanks gods, we now have the m43 cameras with decent grip, which are still highly portable because the lenses are still literally twice smaller than on the Sony FE mount. (Except the Zeiss Loxia ones - but who needs this manual focus sentimental junk.)
Been shooting with Sony A7 toter.
I always got my shots as he was fiddling with the stupidly tiny body and its primitive ergonomics.
Yes he DID notice that he was slow.
In the 80s The Nikon FM and Olympus OM-1 WAY outsold the smaller Pentax MX.
MX was too fiddly and it didn't even require stupid menus it had buttons.
Same today. Sony users fiddle (watch them) Panny and particularly OMD users are always set up faster and shooting.
Missing shots isn't a "better shot" at all.
By the way, to the fellow claiming Panny had updates first: The firmware updateable Olympus E-1 came out in 2003 before panasonic even HAD a DSLR.
ALL Olympus DSLR/Mirrorless cameras since have been upgradeable with new features (and fixes) thus.
Olympus may not even have been first to offer more than mere fixes via firmware but I am not sure of that.
Sorry to break the m43 party but a7 ergonomics are far better than Olympus or Panasonic. Surely there are nice things about those brands but the abysmal image quality makes them not a camera for any serious shooting sorry guys. Overall m43 is hopeless so you are free to indulge in self delusion that will not make you extra large camera phones cameras
Kiril you are full of excrement mate. Sony's are just appliances with no regard for ergonomics or usability in mind, they are just a mindless embodiment of a tech-nerd spec-sheet. As for image quality everything is a compromise, compared to my Pentax 645Z your precious A7 is a toy so who's got the bigger dick now?
If M43 is so beneath you then what the faark are you doing in a Panasonic article? last I checked they don't make 'full-frame' (if you consider 35mm full-frame) cameras so you are either a jealous closet M43 fan or full just plain stupid, either way STFU and go back to your little electronic gadget with that shiny Sony branded logo on it.
SSantana may be read my first post instead of using offensive language? All I am saying is tha tPanasonic do fantastic technology and I hope they release a full frame camera based on it in due time.
Of course the m43 trolls cannot even process the idea that a camera that does not loose resolution at aperture smaller than f/4 or has more than 20 megapixels is even needed by anyone.
The pentax seems no starter for me given it's size. I guess there are people finding good use of it though. I like the camera I use and find it to deliver the best balance for me.
I miss tons and tons of shots. It's not even an ergonomics problem (Canon - c1, c2, c3 click, not sure what else you need) it's a durability problem. No one seems to make an ASPC or Full Frame camera that is waterproof and can be smashed against a rock. (That's all I ask, someone please sell a camera that I can smash against a rock and drop it a stream). Because it's expensive it has to be stowed in high-risk situations. Then I'm left with gopro, which is awful on so many levels. Nikon came close once, with their AW1 camera. I really hope they come out with an AW2 soon. Picture quality is irrelevant if you don't get the shot.
I've shot a lot of different cameras. One of my major criteria is, do I have to do manual diving to do basic stuff - like color space and file type, exposure compensation and white balance, focus selection, things like that. Oddly, with Sony P&S, it's been great, but the couple times I shot Sony mirrorless, I had a fair number of "what was THAT?" moments. Up to the GX8, I've shot Panasonic mirrorless models for weeks before spending quality time with the manual. (The GX8 crammed so many features in that weird stuff happens a lot.) The lens options for Sony really don't cut it yet for me. They went through a lot of mount indecision. Still filling out the line, but fewer f1.4 lenses (I shoot a lot of night work), no f1.2, lots of f4 and f1.8. Few options 24mm to 14mm. And they're big. Pretty much as big as Nikon lenses, so really, there's not much savings in weight and size. If I was only going to shoot one system, Sony might be on my radar. But as a second light kit, not.
Ednaz A7 cameras eliminate almost completely the need to see a menu system during a shoot. The menu is mostly for camera setup, lens compensation, button customization etc.
If you are about to use A7 camera spend the time to learn its customization options and it is much faster to use then most modern cameras. The thing si you can adapt it to your style of shooting - I handed my A7ii today to a friend that shots Sony and he could NOT take picture of me, before I went and reverted some of the customizations I like and use e.g. back button focusing.
The camera is really build to suite advanced amateur use. You can customize it for various shooting objectives and habits and once done with customization I really have no need to open the menu ever. There are 4 control wheels (no other camera comes close), many many buttons and customizable function menu. all in all you can surface about 30 settings at the tip of your fingers - that is plenty.
Well, Kiril - not my experience at all. And your first sentence (eliminates the need for menus) and the first of your second paragraph (spend time to learn its customization options... that's be in the menus, right?) are pretty much in conflict. All cameras can be adapted to style. I do it all the time, mostly without having to look things up in a manual. And then, for most cameras, you never need to go into the menus. That's not been my experience, or the experience of a lot of reviewers. Sony still has work to do to understand working photographers. I can tell you that in workshops, one of the things I have to do a lot is get the students to select the "reset to factory defaults" option, which massively improves their opinions of their cameras, and the quality of their images. And then we make the six or seven changes that matter. It needn't be so complex. But hey, if you're happy, that's awesome.
Four control wheels. Yeah, that's it.
there was a time that 35mm was mocked for being a toy format, just for family snaps, and medium format was the only true "pro".
technology has advanced where todays m4/3rds sensors are far better than the 35mm sensors of a few years ago, and more than good enough for the majority of users - the limit has become the skill of the photographer.
Do you really believe that lugging round a camera that weighs four times as much as an m4/3rds is the way to prove you're a pro and make you a better photographer?
This is non-sense. There are physical problems with m43 that we are seeing. This is why we need a bit bigger soensor. For now 35mm is ok. May be we will need medium format soon but not now. The basic thing is called physics and is studied in school. If you are stupid enough to have missed these classes enjoy m43 until you feel your pictures are not up to expectations.
Honestly this is really pointless discussion. Fact is m43 is only good enough for up to 16MP even 20MP is strteching it. This is pure physics. So m43 is best for street, family and may be low end amteur photography. I will let you figure out on your own why. Hoewever new cameras and computers can work with 30 ot even 50MP and produce amazing results that m43 never will.
So that is it end of the road for m43.
I am fully aware of diffraction limits, depth of field differences, smaller sensor sizes and noise. But very very few people are pixel peepers; 99.99% of people don't care.
And as for pixel count, I don't know anyone who has a 20 megapixel monitor!
The algorithm for the procedure is simple:
As soon as the half press confirms the focus, and full press shutter release is made, the lens mechanism rotates 15 steps behind focus and captures 30 frames in 1 second, ending at 15 frames in front of focus. The DOF distance will not be constant because of focal length variations per lens or zoom setting. The key is the incremental rotational "steps" that would be triggered by the "stepping" motor.
There is no patent for this, so other brands would quickly come out with their own updates and software fixes of basically the same thing.
Panasonic was the first to come out with this kind of free firmware update.
Is that documented somewhere by Panasonic?
It does seem the approach that would be expected based on normal focus stacking implementations.
However, from the example provided by Panasonic where specific elements can be chosen as the focal point I wondered if it was focused on 30 elements with could be at varying points, as opposed to just 30 points at a pre-set distance.
But that may be beyond the capabilities of the cameras - can they AF 30 times in a second?
Why on earth would it burst at 60fps??? What if you need a half second exposure.
This seems like a simple concept that could have come out 10 years ago. Just get the nearest and furthest focal point, and do a focus bracket. You could use burst or whatever. Not 30fps though. I am baffled why I never see aperture bracketing either. I mean, come on, cameras should all do all these options its just software.
What absolute rubbish. You are really doing the guys at Panasonic a disservice. Look at the video.
The camera does not move the focus forward as such - it moves the focus in a series of steps so that each of the 49 focus points is covered.
If multiple focus points have the same focus distance, they are covered off together. See the introductory wedding shot, it is pretty clear.
The maximum number of shots is 49 (maybe +1 for infinity?) but will most often be less. Panasonic only ever refer to "multiple" shots, I don't think I've ever seen a number, despite some people referencing 50 images for some reason.
This is why Panasonic make such a deal about leveraging DFD, if they were just racking the focus forward, DFD would not be needed. I think DFD speeds this kind of operation up immensely, making it practical to use. The lens doesn't have to change direction during the process, and can deal with the focus points in the optimum sequence, moving the lens in one direction and with the minimum number of shifts.
Racking the focus forward or back with no reference to focus points might make it difficult to manage selection of images by focus point, since there is no per-recorderd (ie in EXIF) relationship.
This easily should buy Lytro out of business if it works well. Macro photography would be massively improved. That's an area where focus is a nightmare.
Woohoo great news and thanks Panasonic. I'll be certain to upgrade the
FW next Wednesday on the GX8.
Looking forward to throwing 30 frames into Zerene and seeing what comes out.
It wasn't that long ago that 8mp sensored cameras cost six grand.
I know most macro'ist would certainly be excited about this feature but BIFFers should be as well. Should a 3 second 4K Photo vid then tap on the eye and let the camera find that shot with the sharpest eye. OK for now but wait until this is part of the GH5's 8K Photo :)
Interesting, but I don't see how this would fit into an efficient workflow for editing thousands of photos. It'd take way more time & effort to capture all this extra data and then select the one frame than to simply shoot it right the first time. And, who on earth wants to edit an entire wedding on the camera instead of on a computer? Ugh.
"Interesting, but I don't see how this would fit into an efficient workflow for editing thousands of photos."
You do not get the "thousands of photos". Since this is a sub-function of the 4K video capture, you get one 4K video file (with 30 frames) per "shot".
"And, who on earth wants to edit an entire wedding on the camera instead of on a computer? Ugh."
IIRC, the Panasonic App for iOS/Android provides the interface to extract the frames from 4K video too. On PC/Mac, any video editing software too allows to extract single frames. But why not also offer a possibility to do that on camera?
Some more info here:
Whoopdie freaking do. While we're doing firmware, how about a lockable or press & hold Disp button fer crying out loud?
Focus-stacking is much more valuable, IMHO. Hope they perfect it and implement it soon!
Appears you have to select the focus before you take the next picture. And the other frames are deleted?
Guess we'll wait a few days to find out the details.
GH4 is not on the list. May be it's not free for GH4 users since they don't want free :-D
Why not also for the FZ1000 which is `supposed` to be Panasonics top bridge camera? yet the FZ300/30 gets this feature, this would suggest to me that a replacement is coming perhaps soon for the FZ1000, i cant understand why this firmware is not available for the GH4 either!!
Pana tried very very hard to convince me that I need to upgrade my GX7...
Not clear to me whether the focus point can be chosen in post (i.e., like a normal focus-bracketing workflow) or must be chosen in-camera on the touchscreen.
I'm not sure I'd want to be restricted to reviewing and choosing the best focus point on the small screen in the heat of the moment while shooting out in the field.
EDIT: I see now from this additional video that post-focus is performed any time after shooting in review mode, and that multiple images can be saved from the post-focus image sequence.
I would not want to be a PRO photographer these days... the need for a pro are dwindling and dwindling...
I couldn't disagree more. (Well, I could, but I'd have to clone myself). Technology is enabling for snap shooters and pros alike--but so much more so for those with vision and skill. Where there was a chasm between armatures and pros 2 decades ago, there is now a wall that you have to have a greater variety of skills to climb. Technical acumen and post processing alone are two that one has to be dedicated in to really nail down. What makes a good picture is also not something features or wizbang marketing specs are going to do much for. The one thing that does even the playing field is that better equipment is getting less expensive.
I agree with you. But we are both photographers. A more troubling question is whether the bride or her mother would know the difference if casual shooter got a sort of similar poor shot?
I can see why you would not want to be a pro photographer: you don't know what a pro does.
Jacques et others... yes - weddings, business photos, magazines... pros still have their glory work.. but, just like newspapers and other media outlets, their work is slowly eroding to the rest of the masses.
Equipment, technology and software have made dramatic advances in the past 10 years.. to the point where anyone can make a good shot or fix crappy ones.
Case in point - a "pro" photographer recently took photos of my sons team... 50 years as a pro. Charged $28 a player for digital photos. Spent an hour setting up lighting, backdrops and had each player set in typical sports poses during the shoot... All straight out of camera JPG's from his Nikon 2D (!)... his white backdrop was creased, the photos were overexposed. They were awful... I took a few into photoshop, masked the player in 3 minutes, dropped it onto a digital backdrop, fixed the levels, sharpen and voila... in 5-10 minutes had a great photo that should have come from his camera (and digital studio).
It is new for this industry... in graphic design I've seen the mid-level, single office design, jack-of-all- creative positions go nearly away in the last 10-15 years. Most work has pushed to freelance, occasional need contractors. If your not working for a big agency there has a dynamic drop in graphic designers... formerly skilled work often now given to the secretaries.
Some "pros" are incompetent. Blinding Glimpse of the Obvious.
Read again. I didn't say non-pros couldn't do good work. What I said is some pros are incompetent. This has nothing to do with the need for and viability of photography as a profession. Nobody's going to hire a soccer mom, no matter how talented, to do the work I do.
I agree Jacques... I still think Pro photography is a bad career move moving forward... fewer and fewer situations call for it and the pay keeps getting lower and lower. Once we have cameras that can record video in "12K" and create 24mp stills from ANY frame - everyone will be a pro..
Nope. No tech is going to choose an angle or perspective for you or set up lighting. Everyone wont be a pro. Everyone will be a wannabe, same as now. Tech can make some thing easier or create new possibilities, but it cannot make the fundamental decisions.
Not as convenient as a Lytro solution, but certainly a similar and different solution.
For still photographers honing their craft however, I'm not all that enthusiastic about being able to choose a focus point after a photo is made- sorta takes that portion of the skill right out of it.
I can see applications for commercial/production work however and how this could be extremely valuable.
For everyone saying it needs a touchscreen, that is true right now, but there is no technical reason why this couldn't work with a d-pad.
I suspect that Panasonic is releasing it for a select few cameras so they can make sure the tech is solid and will later port it to other cameras that do DfD and 4k.
Lytro just got pawned.
Lytro has moved on to VR rigs, no powning here.
The average user won't care about the difference in tech. It's a nice feature (and at no extra) that users can play with. The experience is the user can play with a focus point and see different parts of the pictures go out of focus, which is fun.
What about LX100? Please Panasonic do it for the LX100 also
The camera must have a touchscreen for this feature.
I hope you're right as i would like that features on my LX100
This could be used to create a simulated narrow depth of field... Finally demolishing one of the last FF features without having to carry heavy, expensive and bulky fast lenses.
Well done, keep going Panasonic!
No, it could not. The feature will only shoot with the depth of field that the lens can handle.
This feature could be "replicated" today with any camera, Panasonic or not, by shooting a series of images while changing focus (which is what this firmware update in reality does). If your subject was entirely stationary and your camera on a tri-pod you could achieve the exact same thing even using manual focus. You could just shoot 30 different images each with a slightly different focus point and then chose the picture you wanted to use afterwards.
This does NOT enable any type of new depth of field possibilities.
No, it doesn't apply to raw images. Only to JPEGs extracted from the 4K movie segment.
@Coldvinking: "This does NOT enable any type of new depth of field possibilities."
That feature certainly has the potential to do this, but would need additional processing in post. Imagine constructing a depth-map from the image sequence by determining the distance value where the contrast is highest for every pixel (think "every pixel is a CDAF focus point"). By applying a blur value* dependent on the distance a simulation of a wider or more narrow DOF is possible in principle. By no means easy, but IMHO doable in software. Of course you're right, the implementation like presented in the article does not change DOF at all. But the combination of fast burst and focus bracketing is promising.
*in reality rather a convolution with the point spread function of the optical system. I guess occlusion problems will be rather nasty..
The last...except this doesn't change the depth of the in-focus area, and except that m4/3 can't touch FF for high ISO performance.
@chbde oh, countless smartphone manufacturers and app developers are working hard on it, have been for years actually, but as you said yourself, some effects are just plain nasty. This would be more useful for expanding DoF (focus stacking, just like olympus, only no raw) but this makes it better marketing gimmick...
My old Fuji XF1 had simulated shallow depth of field, but the results looked less than ideal for a lot of photos. Its a hard thing to simulate well.
@otto k
You're fully right, there are lots of apps trying to use similar principles with rather unsatisfying results. But I see mainly two problems there: First, most apps use rather primitive methods to simulate bokeh (often just gaussian blur), which looks unrealistic. This can be vastly improved by better algorithms and more processing power. Have a look at "dof pro", a software to simulate bokeh mainly for CGI graphics (meaning the depth map is perfectly well known). The results are quite stunning. The second problem, generating the depth map, is IMHO easier with a bigger sensor because DoF is shallower to begin with. There are of course situations like hair or fine fabric with the background shining through that for sure will give less than perfect results.
Well, and then there's of course occlusion + you need a hdr image to faithfully render blurred highlights... well, I did not say it was an easy problem ;) Still, I can imagine that we will see some nice solutions in the future.
It's exciting development even if it isn't magic imo. Mirrorless has come into it's own so fast because the limitations are demolished by Moores law (processing power doubles periodically quite predictably). Whereas DSLRs have been pretty much sorted, mirrorless is only bounded by processing power and imagination. I think it would be so stupendous if selective focus after the fact, focus stacking or isolating, super resolution merging functions really delivered on a level what we can only imagine now. Imagine! I think it's a bright future.
"and except that m4/3 can't touch FF for high ISO performance"
Nice non-sequitur! Nobody's talking about this, so why bring it up? Got some turf that needs defending?
"Finally demolishing one of the last FF features without having to carry heavy, expensive and bulky fast lenses."
I was responding to DOF being one of the last reasons to choose FF.
The problem is not the out of focus areas, my XF1 did that just fine, the problem is a realistic transition that doesn't look like bad tilt-shift.
"I was responding to DOF being one of the last reasons to choose FF."
Ah, I see. Sorry for jumping the gun before reading the whole exchange.
There are 2 possibilities. This post-focus technology might be synthetic computational in nature. However, Panasonic cameras are conventional in that the lens focuses the image on the sensor plane at one focal distance at a given time of exposure and records only the intensity and not the direction of the light. If so it might be an interesting gimmick but not much more than that. The other and more likely possibilty is that the camera racks focus at 30 fps but that would not necessarily capture the desired moment. I would prefer the 2nd possibilty and I admit it would be an attractive consumer feature but the tradeoff is giving up the full resolution of the sensor. Another question is would the feature be available in RAW mode? That is 30 fps 4K RAW shooting.
There is one possibility - the article explains quite clearly exactly how the new feature works (did you even read it?): the camera records a 4K video whilst racking focus. It then analyses the images to detect what is and isn't in focus so you can select a point and it will figure out which video frame had that point in focus.
i want to know about time for this shooting.
if it need stable camera on-hand more than 1 sec might this feature was failed.
You can see in the video that when they change focus also the framing changes slightly. I guess your hand steadiness just determines how equal the framing is. It is shooting at 30 FPS so for 30 focus possibilities you need to hold it for 1 sec.
whats the big deal ? doesn't it stack 10 shots together in camera ?
great for macro or product photography
I love it. It's another way to automate what anyone can do manually taking 10-20x as much time. Wish the GH4 (a camera I would like to buy once the price drops with the introduction of the GH5) had this capability.
Panasonic has to be congratulated for innovation. It's especially unusual for a large company, but perhaps the this department is run like a small, agile, company.
Panasonic is wasting time on gimmicks. They should rather build a FF MILC system around their excellent class-leading focusing system because it looks like the traditional camera manufacturers are not interested in that segment.
So...you have to keep camera still while it records a short video? Hmmmmmm...
No you don't.
The camera's software sill stitch it together accurately. Of course if you wildly change the framing there will be more issues.
I know most people here will dissagree but this kind of technology in my opinion is killing photography as an art and as a profession. There will be no pro photographers soon because everybody will be able to be an artist without really knowing much about art or photographic techiques. You will be able to achieve a near pro level outcome from your camera so 99% of people will like it sounds nice in the first place but in the future this will turn against humanity and a CPU will be programmed to mimic art while people will get dumb and lazy. Lazy to learn lazy to study photography, CPU will do everything for you even crop and synthesis a CPU can find the "best" and "weird" "low" angles based on the best algorythms. Humanity is on the path to lazyness and art is dying day by day. Mass produced art will never be appreceated and this is bad for humanity in the long run. What do you think about it?
ALTW: the end client doesn't care how the great shot came about, they just want the great shot. Who cares how it was achieved?
I can understand that someone in the profession is scared of additional competition, but for everyone else (i.e. the consumers/customers), the more the merrier.
Pros know composition -- I've not seen any automation in this area, and I don't expect it soon -- it takes years to learn.
There will be a time when all cameras will have databases you can upload of past pros or composition or whatever. Imagine, Ansel Adams mode...you will see all you need to do on the viewfinder or screen to take a picture Ansel would. Then pro photography will no longer exist.
What do I feed them?
Like whining that photography killed portrait paintings. Or the paper industry killed cave graffiti. "Paper might sound comfortable, but in the future this will turn against humanity and painters will sit still insead of walking around the cave to paint and people will get dumb and lazy"
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Millions of Stratocasters are purchased each year but they can't all play like Jimi Hendrix or Carlos Santana...
I agree with your point of view.
Photo agencies are now buying images on instagram : Every one is capable today to shoot 1 or 2 exceptional image in his life. in the huge mass of images on Instagram, agencies find what they are searching for and buy good shoots for 100 or 200$.
Pro photographers can't fight against this method, they disapperar progressively.
On the other side, many young people, bored by digital infinite (unhuman) possibilities, shoot now with 35mm cameras and Polaroid.
Sorry for my bad "frenglish"
The ability of more and more people to produce technically decent photos with a minimal understanding of photography is going to keep putting pressure on the pro market, no doubt about it. But really good photography is about having an opinion and a view of your own, and no camera can give you that. For sure, a lot of pros are going to end up squeezed out of the market, but in terms of overall creativity? You're also going to be opening the door to lots of creative individuals who used to be put off by the technical stuff. Overall, I don't think the amount of good work will diminish, though you might not have a clearly defined class of "pros" doing it. Equally, you'll have a vast tide of Instagram selfies and food shots, all of well exposed and focussed and maybe even better composed because of technology, and you know what? Good! - that's more people using photography as a regular part of their lives and having fun with it than ever before.
I photo with mediocre composition and lighting will look boring regardless of how good the camera is. This has;t destroyed photography any more than eye detect. Professionals will appreciate saving a photo by moving the focus point slightly; like if the nose is in focus instead of the eye, or left eye vs right eye. In the video it shows moving the focus from the veil to the eye; very handy for professional wedding photogs.
But I do get what you are saying.
And before you know it: People will be redundant.
If you're a pro, learn to differentiate yourself from the competition with vision and customer service. This is an age old argument that "innovation and automation are bad", this argument transcends professions. True pros adapt and change with the times.
What an utter shame if they don't implement it for the FZ1000. Oh well.
As I understand it, it can only be implemented on cameras with both 4K Photo mode and Depth from Defocus.
The tech currently needs a touchscreen, although it could be adapted to a d-pad.
I doubt it. But even if it did, there are severe limitations in that it uses 4K photo mode (8MP), has a lower bitrate readout from the sensor, uses an electronic rolling shutter.
It is a clever idea and uses existing tech in a new and meaningful way, but until we have global shutters its not really ready for the prime time.
But definitely a technology to keep an eye on.
No, it only works with 4K Photo mode.
This function could be very interesting in order to combine an entire stack of macro pics (making super deep field macro photos). So that's the question: are the focus points of every single frame manually set, auto set, or preset? Are the 49 areas of a frame for focus points fixed?
So "post focus" basically means taking a still frame from a video focus pull.
Yes. But the lens moves very quickly.
Looks cool, but should be named "focus bracketing" which is already an applicable technique with almost any camera.
Respectively, 4k photo mode could be called "burst mode" or "video". However, the philosophy is different: The frames are handled in one file, and the shutter speed is typically adjusted for still-shooting, and you have in-camera processing.
It's perhaps 1 minute process to take the image, select the focus point (or frame in 4k photo mode), and use WiFi to send it to the editor or share it on web.
Bracketing is a small part of the tech, since you can already do that, what's also important is the way it brackets and the interface and software driving the process. Also, its done in-camera.
> That makes it sound like people don't really need cars... after all, they could walk if they really wanted to.
No, this is incorrect comparison. Correct would be: a camera is already a car, so you never have to walk. This feature is not a car, it is something like an air freshener in the car (it is nice and cool, of course, and it is better to have it than not to). With the modern AF, and especially m4/3 AF which is pretty fast and precise, a camera will give you focus where you want and when you want with just a single shot. Is is so much faster and simpler than having to shuffle through 30 abundant images, like you don't know what you're doing in the first place. Once again, having this feature is desirable, and can have its applications, but it is not so much important.
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In stark contrast to the previous one, but still architectural photography.....
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I'm curious too, about the magenta hue in the upper 2/3 of the image. Was this really something about the light?
Sunrise from Hong Kong shoreline. First time using an Alpa Max.
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At an optimum aperture (for sharpness) for the SK 120 around f/11, the depth of field is too narrow to have everything including the grasses on the very bottom and the trees at infinity in complete focus.
I might have gotten what I wanted with tilt, not sure why didn't bother with this image. The number of frames I grabbed for the focus stack was overkill but I've been in situations before where I didn't get enough frames, so figured more data was better than less
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Continuing my study of pen photography. Tricky little rascals.
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Another in the pen series. This one is very ...... black. No urushi depth, no color variation. Just black. Interesting.
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same area, same rig
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Absolutely stunning Dan.... I love the way the sign aligns with the horizon. Not sure now that any other way would have worked. Do you mind revealing what you used as a viewfinder?
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I actually started with adjusting the sign itself (it was tilting a little), using the Alpa round bubble on top and a Gerber multitool that is always in the bag!
I rarely use any kind of viewfinder, I'm so used to visualize the composition without and/or over/around the camera that it really is second nature by now. In this case, I simply took a measurment from top of sign to floor and put the cam with that height - with the idea of introducing downfall to coincide with horizon. Levelled with the Linhof 3D and exposed.
At review I concluded that I needed a downfall of around 2-3 mm and use one longer shuttertime, but that was it - second exposure was perfect
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32HR/IQ180 - please ignore the sensor dust
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Ancient stone circle in an isolated area near the Gila River, Arizona, 2015.
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This one was on the outer edge of the rock, I didn't see it and almost stepped on it. It gave me fair warning, hissed and rattled and moved away from me while I jumped in the other direction.
BTW the bottom image is a crop of the other image in case you missed it
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Continuing with pen experiments. Photographing urushi, which is essentially many layers of an exotic shellac over brushed-on color.
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This one with 120ASPH/IQ180. Also tried processing a RAW stitch in LR CC. Pretty cool to even out exposure and white balance across shots, but not viable for lenses that need LCC.
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Nice job with the careful framing and separation of the trees against El Capitan!
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BTW, On LR CC, the ability to stitch RAW files make balancing exposure and color temp a little simpler. I just gave it a shot since it is part of my subscription already, but no intention of moving from C1 anytime.
Hee hee - the realities of life. I know that I would have worked that shot to try and keep all the trees within the frame of El Cap. If you'd just stood in the water a bit further to the right and used an 8ft tripod you could have included that lone straggler on the right inside and had some more room around the tips and top of El Cap ...
yes, yes, I know ... back in the real world we do what we can
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Recent years have seen an explosion of interest in and interpretation of the U.S. Constitution. Its authority and stature are routinely invoked by voices from every point on the political spectrum, with frequent references to the Founding Fathers and their true "intent." What really was their true intent?
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Some say the 49ers are not built for making comebacks. In their two losses this year against the Minnesota Vikings and New York Giants, the 49ers got down early, and there was no hint that Smith and the passing offense could overcome the deficit.
However, in last year's regular season, Smith brought the team back four times in the fourth quarter, tying a team record held by Hall of Famer Joe Montana. He did it again with his signature performance against the New Orleans Saints in the NFC divisional playoffs.
Some say that Smith is a game manager who doesn't air it out. Smith has topped 300 yards passing in a game only three times in his career. However, this year, he has made the big play and is averaging 7.9 yards per pass attempt, which ranks fifth in the league. The reason he hasn't compiled huge yards is he doesn't need to do that thanks' to the 49ers' prolific ground game, which leads the league in rushing yardage.
Some say Smith is the perfect quarterback for the 49ers because he stays away from turnovers and allows the running game, defense and special teams to win games. Smith threw only five interceptions all of season, for example.
However, Smith proved recently he can go through a turnover spat. In a two-game stretch, he threw four interceptions and just one touchdown pass.
Some say Smith is steady and can be relied upon for relatively mistake-free but unspectacular performances.
This year, Smith has been all over the place. He had games against the Buffalo Bills and Arizona Cardinals in which his passer rating was over 155. To start the season, he completed 40 of 57 passes for 437 yards with four touchdowns and no interceptions in wins over the Green Bay Packers and New York Jets, compiling a passer rating of 115.9.
Later, he went through a two-game stretch that included a loss to the Giants and a win over the Seattle Seahawks in which he completed 33 of 53 passes for 340 yards. He had one touchdown and four interceptions for a rating of 55.5.
One reason for Smith's inconsistency might be the presence of new weapons. Smith takes a long time to get acclimated to new receivers, and he has two of them in Mario Manningham and Randy Moss, who are both explosive.
All of the developments are being watched closely by the 49ers' brass. The team needs to determine at the end of the season whether to pay Smith a healthy roster bonus in March, which would trigger the rest of his three-year contract.
Statistically, the answer would be yes. Since coach Jim Harbaugh's arrival, Smith has won 19 of 24 regular-season games, and he currently leads the league in completion percentage at 69.4 percent. He's also fourth in passer rating (102.1).
But Smith has also had ample help. Unlike previous years, Smith has been well-protected, particularly in the past two games. The running game is the league's best, and the defense is not far behind. The 49ers have to consider whether anyone could succeed at quarterback in those conditions.


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Something new: Chick & Meck
By: Melissa Chang May 25, 2016
You've probably been wondering about that weirdly named new restaurant on Keeaumoku Street. Chick & Meck? What does that mean?
Well, the chicken part is pretty self-explanatory: They serve chicken. The "meck" is shortened slang for the Korean word for beer, maekju. According to at least one Korean eater, there are popular pubs in Korea that serve chicken and beer, and nothing else. Thus, the straightforward name for Koreans in the know.
When you see the menu, though, you'll see much more than just chicken and beer. The owners said they needed to have a more expanded menu to appeal to the Hawaii market. If this were in Korea, they could get away with just two things, but Hawaii people demand variety.
The shell of the restaurant hasn't changed much since it was Red House, then Sanji. There are fun (and sometimes crude) chicken art and references all over the place, which makes for good conversation and Instagrams. In addition to table service, you can opt to sit at the bar, but tables give the best view of the K-pop videos they play all night on the big screen.
At this writing, the menu is in the process of changing, but not by much. Some items will be more expensive, others will be cheaper, and they will be adding more appetizers. They'll also be removing the yaki nigiri (grilled rice) from the menu, so I didn't bother to order that one.
When I went to Million Pocha, I reacted with a bit of sticker shock when I saw the prices on the menu, and Chick & Meck is no different. These plates of chicken wings do look super expensive. But, like Million Pocha, the place is made for groups that share food, so at the end of the night when you divvy up the bill, you'll be full and your share won't seem like a lot of money. I guess the cheap beer helps to balance that out.
The fried chicken (above) and the house special chicken (below) are my favorites. I know, that sounds so plain, but these are good, solid choices and they go well with the dipping sauces. The meat is moist, and the batter is seasoned to perfection. The plain fried chicken is nicely crunchy and not too bready, and it stays crunchy until the end of dinner, so you don't have to worry about rushing to eat everything right away.
Remember Chicken Alice? The house special fried chicken tastes like that, with shoyu and other spices in the batter. This isn't crunchy like the plain fried chicken, but it still has a nice crisp on the edges. I like to eat these as is, but the wings are all served with a honey mustard and a ranch dipping sauce, and that works, too.
People have been raving about the "pok pok" Vietnamese-style chicken, but it wasn't my favorite at all. Don't order it thinking it will be like Pig & The Lady; it's not as spicy and uses more fish sauce. But these definitely have more character than the first two. They just weren't for me.
New on the menu: a combo plate with fried chicken and barbecue chicken. Judging from the looks, I thought the barbecue wings would be spicy, but they were more sweet-sour. So keep that in mind if you order it.
The beer here is cheap: $4 for draft, $4 to $5 for bottles, $5 to $9 for craft draft (Golden Road Wolf Among Weeds?), and $7 to $14 for craft bottles. I don't drink beer, so opted instead for a bottle of cocktail soju, which ranges from $15 to $18. The more popular flavors, like strawberry, will be $18, and they're quite worth it. This one tasted like bon dance shave ice — dangerously good and too easy to drink.
The sesame leaf pancake stuffed with pork is unique and very tasty, but it's more like a meat jun (or jeon, as they spell it here). The sesame leaf — which is actually shiso — really lends an added layer of flavor, kind of basil-y, to this jun. The meat is very tender, as well.
I wasn't a big fan of the meatball with vegetable jun, but at the time I had this, they were still in soft open mode, so they may be tweaking the recipe. I understand that they had someone come in to retrain the kitchen and the waitstaff, so this may be a whole different dish if I go again this week.
Everyone has their own style of kim chee pancake, and at Chick & Meck, it's not too doughy and maybe a little more eggy. It's crispy on the edges, but not as crispy as Million Pocha, if I can use that as a comparison. It's also chock full of veggies, which is nice.
Their meat jun — I mean, jeon — is definitely a winner. It's super tender, and has a good, strong salty-sweet marinade. It's so tender that you can keep eating it and not notice that you've eaten half the plate without even thinking.
Overall, Chick & Meck is worth a look. Most people will recoil initially at the prices, but remember, once you split the bill, it won't be bad at all. The food is solid, with every dish offering good flavors and sometimes, additionally good textures. I should also give a shout out to the servers, who were all enthusiastic and professional — as a former waitress, I love when servers do a good job.
P.S. Don't worry about the napkins, they give you a packet of wet naps with your dinner.
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835 Keeaumoku St.


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