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Lately Jen and I have been busy with needles of various types making things for our Etsy shop - soft, delicate, pretty things...
Jen's tiny cross-stitch needle has created a beautiful tea towel with a crisp Spring design, perfect for this time of year...
And my knitting needles have created a soft blanket, perfect for wrapping a new baby...
We have lots more ideas in the works too.
Until next time...
Susan :-)
Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Sunday, April 28, 2013
Express Yourself! - CSI Case No. 68
Just a quick post today to show you what I created with last week's CSI challenge. Here's the palette, a great mix of colours and such a fun inspirational image to go along with it!
As this month's theme is "humour" I thought this was the perfect time to do a page that I've been thinking about for quite a while now. I wanted to document some of the funny expressions that Richard uses. To understand why he does this requires a little bit of background information.
Richard was born into a French Canadian family and was a total francophone until he was 14. At that time his father moved the family to Halifax, Nova Scotia - a very different part of Canada and very English. This was a major change for this young teenager who only knew one word in English - hello. But as he had no other choice, he learned to speak English. Somehow though, he never mastered some of the more particular parts of the language, namely the expressions we use. This has become quite amusing to our family as we never know what might come out of his mouth when he tries to use an expression.
I remember once when I'd only know him for a short time that he was talking about somebody being used as a "kidney pig". I had no idea what he was talking about at first but then realized he meant "guinea pig". That was the first of many that I've heard him utter over the years and I think if I'd started keeping a list back then I'd be able to fill a book by now!
We get a lot of amusement from this and regularly use some of his expressions. We never refer to "the circle of life". It's "the wheel of life" for us. I've kept a list over the past while with the aim of documenting some of his funnier sayings and this is the page I created.
The background information of the story is written on a tag and tucked behind the photo and the front of the page contains this list of 9 "Richardisms" with their proper equivalents:
Kidney pig (Guinea pig)
Wheel of Life (Circle of Life)
Simmer Up (Calm Down)
That's All Over the Bridge (It's Water Under the Bridge)
I'm Full of Thumbs (I'm All Thumbs)
Washy Washo (Wishy Washy)
Backstreet Driver (Backseat Driver)
Put a Stick in the Road (Put a Stick in the Spokes)
Copywrite Entrenchment (Copywrite Infringement)
I used this sketch from the French site called Scrap Idees:
On a different note, it seems that Spring is finally coming to Alberta, long overdue and very welcome at this point! We even got out today for a bit of geocaching. I hope your weekend was good wherever you are and that the sun has been shining!
Until next time...
Susan :-)
Posted by Susan at 5:34 PM 2 comments
Wednesday, April 24, 2013
Never Underestimate the Value of a Penny...
In February of this year Canada eliminated the penny from its currency. No new pennies are being minted. If you happen to still have some pennies on hand you are free to use them when making cash transactions, but if you've run out of pennies, as we all will eventually, then your transaction is either rounded up or down to the nearest five cents. This feels like a cheat to me because I wonder who is going to come out on the winning end. I like things to be exact. Some people are happy to see the penny disappear because they feel it no longer has a place in this world where the majority of transactions are not carried out in cash, but I felt a bit sad about the whole thing.
I like the penny. And I like all of the expressions we have that go along with it...
A penny for your thoughts.
A penny saved is a penny earned.
It costs a pretty penny.
And my personal favourite, a little rhyme:
Find a penny
Pick it up
All day long
You'll have good luck!
Because even though my family laughs at me for doing it, I never pass a penny on the street without picking it up! I am mocked. They don't understand why I would make the effort to retrieve a coin that holds so little value. And honestly, in today's world is there really anything you can buy for a penny? Well, if you're in the right place at the right time and it happens to be your very lucky day then the answer to that question would be, "Yes! You can buy this."
Jen and I stopped into Michaels yesterday because I needed to pick up a skein of floss for stitching on my scrapbook pages. She suggested that we take a look at the liquidation section of the store. You never know what sort of bargain you might find, so off we went. Right away I spied a Martha Stewart punch - an interesting all-over design that might be useful for adding some dimension and negative space to my pages. The regular price was $29.99 and it was marked down to $7.99. After a quick test to make sure it was working properly I decided to buy it.
The cashier scanned the floss and the punch and told me the total was 53 cents. "That can't be right," I said, to which she replied, "That's how it scanned, ma'am, so that's what I have to charge you." And sure enough, I looked at the register screen and there it was - Martha Stewart Punch: 0.01. One cent! I quickly paid my 55 cents (my transaction had rounded up but this time it didn't bother me!) then felt like I needed to run from the store before somebody changed their mind about the whole thing.
The cashier scanned the floss and the punch and told me the total was 53 cents. "That can't be right," I said, to which she replied, "That's how it scanned, ma'am, so that's what I have to charge you." And sure enough, I looked at the register screen and there it was - Martha Stewart Punch: 0.01. One cent! I quickly paid my 55 cents (my transaction had rounded up but this time it didn't bother me!) then felt like I needed to run from the store before somebody changed their mind about the whole thing.
A Martha Stewart punch for one cent. Who says you can't buy anything for a penny? The funny thing is, if the punch had been the only item I'd bought I would have got it for free because the transaction would have rounded down to 0.00. Even if I only ever use this punch one time I'll still be saying, "That was a penny well spent!"
Until next time...
Susan :-)
Posted by Susan at 3:12 PM 4 comments
Saturday, April 20, 2013
Brown Hawk Down - CSI Case No. 67
There was another really fun palette of colours over at the CSI site this past week. The theme for the month is "funny" and these colours just yell "fun" at you when you look at them.
Unfortunately I had no funny photos to use which fit the colour scheme so I settled on scrapping some photos of the hawk which visited our backyard recently and which I wrote about here and here. It was a bit of a challenge finding a way to tell the whole story in such a small space but I managed to come up with an abridged version.
Since it was the second challenge of the month, there was a sketch provided for us to use too.
Until next time...
Susan :-)
Unfortunately I had no funny photos to use which fit the colour scheme so I settled on scrapping some photos of the hawk which visited our backyard recently and which I wrote about here and here. It was a bit of a challenge finding a way to tell the whole story in such a small space but I managed to come up with an abridged version.
Since it was the second challenge of the month, there was a sketch provided for us to use too.
Until next time...
Susan :-)
Posted by Susan at 2:45 PM 1 comments
Thursday, April 18, 2013
When a Notebook is No Longer a Notebook...
I've been very busy sleuthing with the CSI (Colors, Stories, Inspiration) site the past couple of months. These challenges are so inspiring and I always look forward to Friday evening when the new challenge is revealed. After reading all the details I grab a scrap of paper and jot down the five colours of the palette as well as the Evidence and Testimony requirements. I like to have this basic information handy as reference when I'm working on my page.
This week as I was making my notes I remarked to Richard that I should get myself a little black notebook, you know, sort of like real detectives have for making notes on the case they're solving. ;-) Plus, I really like notebooks and can always find a use for a new one. So next morning off we went to the office supply store.
As soon as we entered the store we were approached by a young boy who asked if we needed help finding anything. "I'm looking for a small notebook", I said. "Okay", he said, muttering something to himself about technology and led us off in the total opposite direction of where I was expecting the notebooks to be. Next thing I know he's waving his arm in the general direction of where the printers and computers are located saying, "You'll find one somewhere in there". I was confused. And then it dawned on me that we were from two very different generations and his idea of a notebook was obviously not the same as mine.
"Oh. Um, no", I said. "I'm looking for a tiny notebook...like, with pages inside." And I laughed. I couldn't help it. "Ohhhh" he said, with a bit of an embarrassed look on his face, and led me off in the direction I'd originally thought we should be going. There was a nice assortment of old-fashioned notebooks and I picked out a black one which should fit my sleuthing needs just fine.
The world sure has changed and I'm beginning to feel like a bit of a dinosaur these days but as long as I never walk into the office supply store and have to explain to someone what a piece of paper is I think I'll be okay. ;-)
Until next time...
Susan :-)
Posted by Susan at 9:30 AM 5 comments
Labels: CSI, randomness
Tuesday, April 16, 2013
Good Things Come To Those Who Wait
A couple of weeks ago when I was at Jen's for Scrappy Tuesday we made a quick stop at Home Sense as I was in need of a towel for my bathroom. In addition to having some awesome kitchen and home decor products and great deals on towels, there's also a small scrapbooking section where, if you're really lucky and arrive on the right day, you might find something really amazing for an even more amazing price.
For example, about a month ago we happened upon the entire Crate Paper Restorations paper pack for only $4.99! I had already owned this collection (thanks to Jen) and have used it over the past couple of years, but at $4.99 who could resist, even though it's an older paper line. I still love it as much as I originally did! But back to the more recent find...
I'm not very good when it comes to scrappy shopping. Even though I've been scrapping now for four years I still tend to get overwhelmed when confronted with an abundance of product. But Jen has an eagle eye. She's always up-to-date with what's out there. She knows what to look for and scans the displays quickly and efficiently. Within what seemed mere seconds of arriving at the scrapbooking aisle she was already squealing with excitement for this is what she'd found:
...Amy Tangerine's Ready Set Go line and Studio Calico's Yearbook and Hey Day collections complete with stickers and alphas in some of the packs. And all for only $4.99 each!
Jen told me that she had bought all three lines at full price - one of them about a year ago but two of them around Christmas time. That's only 3 months ago! And that drove home the point of why it's not always a good idea to rush out and buy things as soon as they come out. There's no guarantee of what you might find if you wait but there will always be good deals to be found eventually. It was very confirming for Jen that she's doing the right thing with her No Buy Challenge because she knows she will still pick up some great product next year and probably at a great price.
As for me, I spent a few minutes debating how much paper I really needed and which of them I should buy but in the end I snatched up all three packs and cradled them lovingly in my arms. At $4.99 each that's about a 70% saving from full price. How could I resist?
Until next time...
Susan :-)
Posted by Susan at 8:21 AM 3 comments
Labels: scrappy stuff
Sunday, April 14, 2013
Spring? What's That?
Like many Canadians, I am really looking forward to spring this year. Winter hit us full force here in Edmonton on November 1st and hasn't let up since. It's been a long winter. We woke up to more snow yesterday and it's still cold today with a wind chill in effect. I'm beginning to wonder if this might be true...
Good for a laugh but I still really want spring to come! Please.
Until next time...
Susan :-)
Posted by Susan at 5:43 PM 4 comments
Saturday, April 13, 2013
Xmas Elf - CSI Case No. 66
I'm back with another colour challenge from the CSI site. I have to admit that when I first looked at this colour palette I wondered what I would do with it.
This is not a colour combination that really speaks to me and not one that I would typically use. But that's the beauty of a colour challenge - it gets you doing things outside your norm and when I remembered that I had a cute Christmas photo of my little nephew Thomas, I knew everything would work out okay.
How cute is this little guy in his Santa pyjamas? Very! My brother referred to him as the "Christmas Elf".
I used a bit of Christmas green and some turquoise to warm up the page. The CSI rules say that colours other than what are in the palette can be used as long as they are limited to 10% of the page, and in this case I really felt it was necessary if I was going to be happy with the end result.
Jen had given me that turquoise Studio Calico frame a while back. Luckily it fit perfectly on the vellum pocket and was an easy way to fancy it up. The red tag (also Studio Calico) tucked into the pocket contains a few lines of journaling.
I used this sketch from the Scrap Idees blog.
I used this sketch from the Scrap Idees blog.
On a sidenote, I am still rocking my favourite package of black Thickers Sunrise alphas, although it's really slim pickins' by now! This time I did a bit of surgery on a capital "I" to transform it into an "l". I've got mostly K's, W's and X's left in the pack now so I think my chances of eking out another title are pretty slim. Had I known how much I would love these alphas I would have bought several packages when they were available. I don't think I'd ever get tired of seeing this font on my pages.
Susan :-)
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Thursday, April 11, 2013
Tiny Shiny Sequins (the real story)
If you follow my sister Jen's blog then you already know that she has imposed a No Buy Challenge on herself for 2013. If you don't follow her blog you can read all about how it's going here, here, here and here. Now, yesterday at the end of a blog post Jen made brief mention of some sequins which she had acquired. I'm here to tell you how the whole thing really went down. <wink>
We got together as usual for Scrappy Tuesday (which was actually a Knitting Tuesday, but that's beside the point). After a nice lunch out at a great sandwich shop we decided to stop into the local thrift store for a look around. We spent a good while hunting for treasures and toward the end I spied a bag of sequins. The conversation went something like this:
Susan: Hey, look at this bag of sequins for only a dollar.
Jen (voice slightly raised as tends to happen when she gets excited about scrapbooking possibilities): Wow!!! Those are great!
Susan: Are you going to buy them?
Jen: I can't. The challenge. Those sequins are really great!
Susan: But it's only a dollar....how about if I buy them for you?
Jen: No, you can't do that. <pause> Only if you'd use them too. Think of what you could do with them!
Susan (weighing the pros and cons as she usually does when making a purchase, even if it's only a dollar): Well, do you think we'd really use them? I mean, I already have some sequins that you gave me a long time ago and I still haven't used them on a layout. I don't know...are the colours really okay? There's a lot of green and navy in here.
Jen: Oh they're great! Just look at them! There's pale green and pink. Look at that fuschia!! I think I might see a turquoise one here too! Think what you could do with them!
Susan: Okay, I'll buy them.
Jen: Well, only if YOU really want them.
But inside she was actually crying, "Please...PLEEEEEEASE....BUY THE SEQUINS! They're only a dollar. A dollar! They're wonderful! You'll never find a better deal on sequins. Pleeeeeeeease!"
So, I bought the sequins. And the best part is, when I got to the cash I was only charged 50 cents for them. That's a whole lot of sequins for 50 cents! We went back to Jen's place and opened the bag and split them between us and Jen was a happy camper...or should I say happy scrapper.
Seriously though, Jen has done so well with her No Buy Challenge that she honestly deserves 25 cents worth of sequins. Me? I'm not so big on sequins but who knows, maybe you'll see some on a layout one of these days...Jen was still convincing me of the possibilities as the afternoon went on. ;-)
Until next time...Susan :-)
PS: Some portions of this story may or may not have been slightly embellished for reader enjoyment. (Embellished with sequins? Nah, no sequins.)
Posted by Susan at 8:21 AM 4 comments
Wednesday, April 10, 2013
Royaume du Bonbon - CSI Case No. 65
I have another CSI case file to share. The palette was loaded with bright, vibrant colours that yelled out "fun" to me!
And what could be more fun than candy? When we lived in Quebec we had a great little candy store within walking distance from our house. Sometimes on a nice evening we would go for a walk and get a small bag of penny candy. When you walked into the store there were shelves that were lined with dozens and dozens of jars of candy. You'd take a little paper bag and tiny pair of tongs and make your selections. They had every type of candy you could imagine - the newer types but also all the old stand-bys we were used to when we were kids. The only thing that had changed was the price. There wasn't much that could be called "penny" candy anymore because most of it cost anywhere from 5 cents to 25 cents a piece but it was so much fun to pick out exactly what you wanted and fill your bag. The owner of the store was very trusting too, because it was up to the customer to keep a tally of the total cost of what they'd chosen. I sometimes wondered how much money they lost to kids who weren't very good with math (or weren't very honest)! Before we left Quebec we made one last visit to the candy store and I took a photo of what I'd selected. I do miss that store.
It was so much fun to create this page. I loved working with the hexagons and I was happy to finally put those whimsical red alphas to good use. They're from Cosmo Cricket and were a sale item at my LSS for only $2 quite a while ago. At that price I couldn't resist buying them, although at the time I couldn't imagine how I might use them. They were exactly what I needed for this page. :-)
I used a sketch from Kristine Davidson's eBook "Creating with Sketches".
Until next time...
Susan :-)
Posted by Susan at 9:12 AM 2 comments
Sunday, April 7, 2013
Storytelling Sunday...Nesting Dolls
It's Storytelling Sunday once again over at Sian's blog From High in the Sky. And my contribution this month is my story of how a dream came true for me when my sister gave me a tiny set of nesting dolls.
Long ago, when I was a little girl I knew someone who had a set of wooden nesting dolls. I seem to remember that it was my cousin, but memories sometimes get mixed up with time and it might have been a friend. What I do remember is that I loved those dolls. It was a good-sized set of about seven, and I was very intrigued with how they fit one inside the other so nicely, down to that smallest one in the center. I have to admit that I was a tad envious of the person who owned these dolls and I really wished that I had a set too.
Throughout my life I always remembered those dolls and the way I'd felt about them. When we lived in Montreal there was a souvenir shop that had many different sets of nesting dolls, in all sorts of colours and sizes, arranged in the display window. As we'd be passing by the shop I sometimes stopped to look in at them but I could never justify the cost of buying one for myself just to satisfy this yearning I'd had as a child.
Fast forward to the summer of 2010 when I came to visit Jen in Alberta before we moved here. We spent an afternoon at Fort Edmonton Park and stopped into a gift shop. Behind the counter was a display of nesting dolls which I stopped to admire. The sales lady showed us a beautiful set of 5 miniature dolls and I told Jen how I'd always wished I had a set. We continued looking around the shop and without me knowing it Jen bought them for me. I was now the proud owner of a set of nesting dolls - and not just any nesting dolls - miniature ones which makes them even better because I love miniature things! A dream come true.
But why are there two sets of dolls in this photo you ask? Well, that's because during our move to the west I lost my nesting dolls. Or thought I had. For months after the move I searched high and low and could not find my precious dolls. It was a sad thing, indeed.
But my sister is a kind soul and when we visited Fort Edmonton Park once again in the summer of 2011, she bought me another set of dolls (even though I tried my best to talk her out of it because I knew that my dolls had to be somewhere in my house). This time it was a lovely turquoise set. And wouldn't you know it, not two days later I found my pink set wrapped in tissue paper, tucked into a tiny tin and placed at the bottom of a storage chest so they wouldn't get damaged during the move.
I love my little nesting dolls. The tallest stands about 2 inches and the tiniest one isn't much more than a quarter inch tall. I like to think that one day some little girl will be in my house and admire them and I'll be able to give her one of the sets so she won't spend half a lifetime pining over them like I did.
And that's the story of another of my precious things. There are lots more stories about precious things linked up on Sian's blog, so go and have a look...
Until next time...
Susan :-)
Posted by Susan at 8:00 AM 12 comments
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Thursday, April 4, 2013
New in the Shop
Crafty Tuesday took place on Wednesday this week and Jen and I spent some time putting together some embellishments for our Etsy shop. Hearts and stars layered up on either text paper or kraft cardstock and secured with a tiny staple.
Spring must be on the way because we were in the mood for bright, happy colours! They look so cute and would be perfect on scrapbook pages or as part of the design of a greeting card. We've added one set of 12 to the shop with more to follow.
Until next time...
Susan :-)
Posted by Susan at 10:46 AM 2 comments
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The Barbara and George Cromwell Center for Teaching and Learning fosters a culture of reflection about teaching among faculty and staff at all stages of their careers who share our commitment to a learning community broadly understood. The Cromwell Center promotes excellence in teaching across the disciplines, informed by a global scholarship on the science of pedagogy and the application of that scholarship in the context of a liberal arts college of higher education. The Cromwell Center supports the instructional improvement efforts of Washington College's teaching community, initiates programs and activities that enrich and improve teaching and learning, as well as facilitates as partners and collaborates with a broad range of groups and colleagues on campus in offering such programs. The Center seeks to cultivate an institutional climate that values, rewards, sustains and renews excellence in teaching and learning. Our events are open to all.
Teaching and Learning
These programs are designed to address the needs and interests of faculty through workshops and discussion groups. Examples are: active learning, new ways to involve students in writing, strategies for encouraging critical thinking etc.
These programs are designed to introduce faculty to technology that might be useful to them in face-to-face and other modes of communication. Examples are using Canvas and Croc-doc, creating multimedia for your own classes, using response keys (clickers in class), exploring the use of the internet for teaching purposes, using social media to attract the best prospects to your department, etc.
Washington College is firmly committed to creating and maintaining an inclusive environment where all students, staff and faculty can enjoy a feeling of belonging. To that end, the Cromwell Center for Teaching and Learning co-sponsors programming with the Center for Multicultural Affairs and the Center for Academic Skills to provide faculty and staff with a better understanding of how to more effectively reach a wider range of students.
The Cromwell Center Advisory Board
The advisory board provides guidance to the Director in program matters. The current composition of the Cromwell Center Advisory Board is:
- Anne Marteell-Parish, Chemistry Department.
- Aileen Tsui, Art Department.
- Adi Mayer, Economics Department
- Andrea Vassar, Director of Disability Services and Office of Academic Skills and Section 504/ADA Coordinator.
- Sharon Sledge, Chief Academic Technology Officer.
- Ruth Shoge: Dean, Library and Academic Technology
- George Spilich: John Toll Professor of Psychology and the Director of the Cromwell Center for Teaching and Learning.

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I know that some surgeons attach the levator muscle to tarsal plate(static), and some attach levator to skin(dynamic). some asian patients complain that in static crease, that the scar is indented when the eyes are closed (doesn't fade, always there), giving unfavorable cosmetic result. In dynamic, scar shows when eyes are closed but is invisible in half a year Is it possible that the patient can ask the surgeon what kind of crease (static/dynamic) that he/she wants and are they interchangeable?
The Type of Scar from Upper Blepharoplasty?
Doctor Answers 4
Asian Upper Eyelid
The Asian upper eyelid Blepharoplasty is a very fascinating procedure. In some Asian patients the muscle that opens the upper eyelid(like a garage door opener) does not insert into the skin, creating a fold. On top of this some may have excess fat in the area.
I have never heard static versus dynamic. I would propose it is simpler than that. Once the amount of crease is agreed upon, the excess skin is excised. Then muscle, and fat may be trimmed. Most people will simple close the upper eyelid incision by tacking the skin down to the deeper tissues-levator/ tarsal plate area.
There are several factors that could lead to a depressed scar;
1 The patients innate scarring and healing
2. Taking too much muscle out over the tarsal plate- or maybe too narrow of a strip
3 Sutures being too tight as a result of swelling or technique.
Upper Eyelid Blepharoplasty Scar: Different scar for different races
Upper eyelid blepharoplasty is a straight forward operation when skin only is removed. Typically this is combined with a browlift in the female patient and the scar is designed to be invisible. In the asian patient, the purpose of an upper eyelid blepharoplasty is to define an upper eyelid crease and this can be preformed in numerous ways, but in general involves attaching the upper eyelid skin to the levator aponeurosis. This is designed to create a crease on eyelid repose and elevation.
I hope this helps.
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Eyelid crease
I usually attach the ski to the levator muscle and not the tarsal plate for the reasons you mention. It should give a natural result.
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Your understanding of upper eyelid surgery is not correct.
A properly executed Asian or Western upper eyelid surgery benefits from a precisely structured upper eyelid platform and upper eyelid crease. This is done by a technique called anchor blepharoplasty. The crease is created by making a scar adhesion between the levator aponeurosis and the upper eyelid crease. This support the upper eyelid platform skin and the upper eyelid eyelashes. The levator itself does insert over the tarsus. However, in many individual with upper eyelid ptosis this insertion is thinned or frankly disinserted. In these cases, the tendon needs to be properly reattached to the tarsus but this is independent of the formation of the crease.
A so-called dynamic crease lacks the advantage of controlling crease placement and risks that the double fold will fail after surgery. The reason some surgeons avoid making the hard crease of the anchor blepharoplasty is that technically, it is one of the most difficult and demanding procedures of oculofacial plastic surgery. Very few surgeons possess the precise technical and artistic skills needed to execute this surgery. So occasionally one runs into nonsense out there explaining why the anchor blepharoplasty was not performed.
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Hi there
Like many, I've been very much attracted to the Fuji jpg engine - great detail and sharpness, and all of those splendid options.
BUT having really tried, and done lots of comparisons, I've realised that RAW is still (as always) the way to go.
Sky colour is a real bugbear of mine, it's why I didn't go Canon when the 5D came out, and it's always been a real plus point for Sony, Leica, and now Pentax.
This example shows what I mean; the first is shot in the default jpg mode on the X100, the second shot is RAW - there is no more processing in either of them.
Now - many might contend that the jpg shot is more attractive, but it's not right, there is definitely too much cyan in the sky colour
So I thought - what about the HDR function - that must be worth trying:
Sorry for the quality of the shots.
This was a pretty dark barn, with splashes of sunlight - seemed to me to be a perfect situation to use the 400% HDR option - so I did.
I also shot a RAW file.
Here are the results - I spent 30 seconds adjusting the shadow and highlight detail on the RAW file: You can see that the HDR jpg (first shot) has done a grand job of recovering the highlights (better, perhaps than the RAW file)
But the beams are horrible in the HDR shot - lots of false noise and that nasty brown look.
Of course, had it been worth it, one could have spent more time with the RAW file to improve things further (or done some exposure overlays).
all the best


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Annual Oktoberfest at Squaw Sept 28
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August 28, 2013
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Squaw Valley is hosting an Oktoberfest celebration complete with a Bratwurst Toss, authentic German beer and plenty of entertainment.
The annual Squaw Valley Oktoberfest will take place September 28, 2013 from 2 p.m. to 6 p.m.
Modeled after the original Oktoberfest, a 16-day annual festival held in Munich, Germany, Squaw Valley's event is a fun day for the whole family.
Enjoy traditional German entertainment including performances by Joe Smiell and his 20-piece Bavarian band on the main stage. Additional music and dancing will take place on the First Street stage with the Almenrauch Schuhplattler Bavarian Folk Dancers and the Alpentanzer Schuhplattler Austrian Dance Troop accompanied by the Alpentanz Kapelle band.
Beer lovers can toast each other in the Village-wide Biergarten, where they will find a wide selection of authentic German brews including the annual favorite, Spaten. The first beer, sold in a commemorative festival glass, is $10. Additional beers will be available for $5, with all proceeds from beer sales benefiting the Tahoe Truckee Lacrosse Foundation.
In addition to the live music and beer tasting, event attendees can compete for prizes in the Oktoberfest Games. Intensity is high as festival-goers compete in the stein holding competition, keg-rolling race and the bratwurst toss. The games are just as much fun to watch as they are to play, and guests are encouraged to further get into the spirit of the event by wearing traditional lederhosen and dirndls.
In celebration of Oktoberfest, village restaurants will serve traditional German bratwurst with sauerkraut and a variety of other delicious foods served outside in the open air beer hall in the Tram Promenade. Oktoberfest also features a root beer float station for the kids – the perfect way to start or finish off the day.
Entrance to The Village at Squaw Valley's Oktoberfest celebration and entertainment are free. Festival goers must be 21 years or older with a valid ID to purchase beer. No outside alcohol will be permitted.
Photo by Jason Kelley


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Astute observers and a dedicated volunteer give a doomed bird a second chance
It's a warm spring morning and photographer Robert Bunch is doing what he loves most — shooting images of birds and other life near White Rock's Sunset Bay, located on the southeast side of the pond. A teacher and a bunch of young students are standing nearby, and the teacher says to Bunch, "Is that a bird out there?" Bunch squints into the sunlight, through tree branches, and sees a long wing sticking straight up into the air. Bunch knew the bird was stuck, but it was across the water in impenetrable muck, he says. However, Bunch, a bird enthusiast, couldn't sit back and let the animal suffer. "I just can't watch a creature in trouble without doing something, you know?" So he called a friend who directed him to Kathy Rogers, who owns the Rogers Wildlife Rehab Center. Rogers was tied up with errands for the next couple of hours, but agreed to help if Bunch would hold tight, and if he could figure out a way to get her canoe to White Rock Lake. "I waited a couple hours, then drove out there, and we loaded the canoe in my truck and drove back to the lake." Rogers, an assistant and Bunch piled into the tiny canoe and set out after the trapped black-crowned night heron. "The boat was real wobbly. I took an old camera and lens because I didn't know if I was going to fall in. So we got out there, and there was the bird. You could see how his wing was caught up there. Turns out it was caught on a kite string. Someone's kite had gotten away, and it was just draped over those trees. It tried to get away, and that string got tighter and tighter. "[Rogers] reached for the bird … it bit her and drew blood … she cut it free and carried it back to the boat. We paddled back, and she held that bird between her knees. She said he needed to be checked out real closely." Rogers took the injured bird back to the rehab center and fixed him up. A few days later, she invited Bunch to join her for the heron's release back into the wild. Bunch, of course, brought his camera to capture the magical moment.
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Toyota capitalized on the pre-Tokyo Motor Show buzz and presented its plug-in hybrid Prius PHV to the press. The car is not quite ready for launch, it will be launched in Japan on January 30, 2012. However, dealers accept orders as of today. The venue of the press conference was carefully chosen: The National Museum of Emerging Science and Innovation.
Toyota sees this car as the "mainstay next-generation eco-vehicle following the EV."
In carefully chosen words, Toyota managers pooh-poohed the pure plug-in. They pushed the usual buttons, namely range anxiety or time to charge. They subtly dissed the pure plug-in by saying that green vehicles are only good for the environment if they are widely used.
The EV cruising range is not far: 26.4 km, or 16.4 miles. After that, the Prius PHV will switch seamlessly into hybrid mode, using the familiar 1.8 liter series hybrid technology. Why such a short EV range? It is a careful balancing act of weight, space, and price. A big battery adds heft and hefty cost. The Prius PHV is only 50 kg (110 lbs) heavier than the regular Prius. Its lithium-ion battery is small enough to not take away trunk space. Trunk is the same size as that of the Prius. 16 miles is enough to get to the store and back or to roll out of town without polluting the air.
A lot more has been said today. A lot of it is already known to TTAC readers via our interviews with Chief Engineer Satoshi Ogiso. Because there was so much, we make the whole press conference available to you via video as if you've been there yourself.
Toyota plans to sell 60,000 Prius PHV a year around the world. 35,000 to 40,000 are scheduled for Japan, the rest for the rest of the world. The car should arrive in the U.S. in Spring at a starting price of $32,000. People in Europe will have to shell out €37,000.
Leave it to Reuters to say why GM should be worried:
"General Motors Co is also looking to win over environmentally conscious consumers with its Volt plug-in hybrid, although its price tag of $41,000 is considered prohibitive.
The Volt also hit a snag recently, with U.S. regulators deciding last week to investigate the safety of the car after its battery pack caught fire in crash tests.
The Volt uses "range extender" technology to generate electricity on-board with the gasoline engine and carries 180 kg (400 lbs) of batteries."
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60 Comments on "Toyota Launches The Volt Worrier: A Prius Plug-In Hybrid That Won't Break The Bank..."
KixStartNovember 29th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
"The Prius PHV is only 50 kg (110 lbs) heavier than the regular Prius. Its lithium-ion battery is small enough to not take away trunk space."
That is impressive.
Seating for 5, same capacious trunk as the regular Prius, $thousands less than a Volt (although $32K is still rather a lot).
GM has every reason to worry. They're lucky Toyota didn't rush things and start selling it earlier this year; that would have put a real dent in the few Volt sales they have garnered.
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mike978November 29th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
+1, however a key difference is the range 16 miles vs 35-40 (and in the Leaf 75-100 miles). So depending upon your lifestyle (commuting distances etc) it may make sense to buy one over the other. A more aligned price would helped obviously!
GM does at least seem to have gone in the right overall direction, with Toyota following, in having a plug in hybrid rather than the pure EV's from Nissan (Leaf) and Ford (Focus) which have the range anxiety and charging time issues.
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mcsNovember 29th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
+1, however a key difference is the range 16 miles vs 35-40
Those numbers could change a bit with the all but inevitable Volt battery pack redesign. Reinforcing the pack could increase weight and/or decrease capacity. The Volt will still have an advantage, but I think the difference will be a bit less.
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golden2huskyNovember 29th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Or changes in battery design may give more range to the Volt with the same weight and footprint…
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CJinSDNovember 29th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Define gone in the right direction for me. I see Nissan Leaves all the time here in San Diego. I hadn't heard of there being any surplus supply, while most Volts built appear to still be unsold.
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CJinSDNovember 29th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
"Or changes in battery design may give more range to the Volt with the same weight and footprint…"
Then what were the design objectives for the Volt's current time bomb?
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KixStartNovember 29th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
mike978: "GM does at least seem to have gone in the right overall direction…"
Way higher price, fewer passengers, less trunk spaces, lower extended-range MPG being the "right" directions?
My wife has thought about an EV-type vehicle and, today, she favors the Leaf, not on any kind of technical merit but because it's less expensive. When the iMiev hits, she'll probably declare it the "winner" for the same reason. In fact, an iMiev, if it really can be obtained for $23K or thereabouts, after tax bennies, might really end up in our garage.
And while a nominal 40 miles is nice, there's a certain part of the potential market that already cares enough about oil consumption that they don't drive very far, anyway. For these people, 15 miles and a lot less money is a very persuasive argument.
One other "advantage" to the Prius is… no $2K charger. Were I to buy one (not too likely at $32K but we will see), there'd be no reason to get a spendy 240V charger… regular 110 does the trick in 3 hours, what's the big advantage of 1.5 hour charging, given that the vehicle still gets great regular fuel economy?
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Pch101November 29th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
a key difference is the range 16 miles vs 35-40 (and in the Leaf 75-100 miles). So depending upon your lifestyle (commuting distances etc) it may make sense to buy one over the other.
Did it occur to you that there may be a good reason why Toyota, which has the most experience with hybrid development, opted to make a car that was less dependent upon its battery, while Bob Lutz with his contempt for the notion of reliability as a consumer virtue, did not?
It's not as if Toyota didn't have people on the payroll who could have followed the same approach that GM has taken. TMC certainly has the know-how to make a hybrid with a greater electric-only range if it chose to.
TMC delayed the launch of its plug-in hybrid for several years. I would presume that the delays were due to the earlier versions not being sufficiently reliable to be suitable for the mass market.
GM, with its track record of jumping the gun and misplaced priorities, is not in the same league when it comes to R&D advancements that work well in the real world and that can be dependably mass produced.
The weak point of EVs is with the battery. Any maker of hybrids has to manage around this Achilles' heel. A car with 30 miles of electric-only range is placing greater demands on its battery pack than would another car that does half of that. I would place my bets on Toyota doing it right before I would on GM.
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Steven02November 29th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Toyota said that lithium ion batteries weren't ready for prime time when the Volt and Leaf were being discussed. Less than a year later, they announce their plug-in Prius with a lithium battery pack.
Honestly, I think the reason Toyota went with a smaller battery pack was for 2 reasons. It was easier to fit into the space that was already there from the Prius, which didn't a huge amount of redesign, and to keep costs low on the battery side.
The Toyota hybrids have great fuel efficiency, although I can't stand to drive them. No power. But, it makes sense for them to build upon what they already had, which is a working formula.
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November 29th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
PCH101: "A car with 30 miles of electric-only range is placing greater demands on its battery pack than would another car that does half of that"
Not so, actually. The smaller the battery (shorter range), the greater the relative discharge (draw). The demands on a smaller battery are substantially greater than a large battery, given the same draw. It's the main reason that the (non-plug in) Prius only uses some 20-30% of its total battery capacity: the very high draw and rapid discharges (and re-charges) demanded of it would damage it it otherwise.
The opposite extreme is the Tesla Roadster, that can use some 70% of its battery capacity, because being such a large battery, the proportionate demands (draw) on it an any given time is such a small percent of its total capacity.
I'd say that's one of the main reasons Toyota put the plug-in Prius out there for two years of testing. And a very smart move.
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Pch101November 29th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
The opposite extreme is the Tesla Roadster, that can use some 70% of its battery capacity, because being such a large battery
It isn't a matter of "can". It's a matter of Tesla not having any choice. If they charged the battery to a lesser degree, then the car would have no range.
The Tesla is a rich guy's toy, so long-term reliability isn't as important for it than it is for a mainstream car sold in high volumes to middle-class buyers who demand reliability.
The Volt will use 50-70% of its charge. My guess is that this will prove to be a problem for long-term reliability versus the Prius. Toyota's approach is less aggressive, and I suspect that is for good reason.
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KixStartNovember 29th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Steven02: "Toyota said that lithium ion batteries weren't ready for prime time when the Volt and Leaf were being discussed."
That was quite a long time ago. And we have only GM's word for it that the Volt battery IS ready for prime time.
In fact, it's not entirely certain that the Volt itself is ready for prime time. From a posting on GM_Volt:
"I beg to disagree. The check engine light can come on for a variety of issues. Specifically, I've had a CEL for the following issues:
* Low charger voltage – A failed Blink charger at a McDonalds near the WV Capitol building
* Battery coolant pump malfunction – A low flow or low amp alarm caused by a hole in my battery radiator
* Charge port door sensor alarm – Not only did I get a CEL, but the "Charge Port Door Open" message flashed when the door was closed.
* General electrical fault – This came up a couple times in concert with low charger voltage and charge port alarms.
Maybe we should start a poll to see who has recorded the most CELs. Unfortunately, I think I'd rank pretty high on the list"
Now, that guy, I believe, LOVES his Volt and at least one fault was due to a bad public charger but it's not a year old yet and, if I were him, I'd be somewhat nervous.
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November 29th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
@PCH101: Its neither "can" nor "choice" primarily. It's by design. A pure EV, has to have a higher capacity battery, obviously. That also means the battery is not drained as quickly at any given time (draw, as a percentage of capacity), as well as not being drained so deeply. That intrinsically allows for a lower SOC minimum.
I can't yet find specs on what percentage of the plug-in Prius battery is used, but I'm guessing it's going to be around 50% too, like the Volt.
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mike978November 29th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
CJ – as requested, my definition is that if you are going to build one EV type vehicle then aim for the one with the largest potential market. A large segment of the EV buying population would have concerns about charging times and the inability to use the vehicle fully during those 12-16 hours and range anxiety (being stuck in the middle of nowhere). Therefore it made sense to make a vehicle that addresses these two concerns whilst allowing people to drive gas free as required (within the range constraints). Since two of the three biggest auto companies have gone this route it seems validated. Now Nissan's experiment with the Leaf is perfectly valid because there will be a segment (just smaller) of the EV buying population that is happy with the two constraints detailed above. So it will sell. I don`t see Ford having much success with the pure Focus EV since I suspect the market is too small. Ford is hedging its bets since they have a plug-in version of their upcoming C-Max. Again following the GM and Toyota lead.
Hopefully you are not too upset, especially since I didn`t mention, praise or disparage your favorite car company. I suspect if they do make a plugin version of one of their hybrid vehicles then you will suddenly think it is the best thing since sliced bread and the "right direction"!
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Steven02November 30th, 2011 at 10:34 am
My point was that Toyota appears to have started lithium battery development later than GM by saying it wasn't ready when GM and Nissan were starting to work with it. Less than a year after that statement, they announce they are going to make a plugin Prius with it. I know it was a long time ago that they did that. I was responding to pch101 who was saying that delaying the plugin Prius was to get it right when I am saying that Toyota started development on the plugin Prius after the Leaf and Volt were announced AND that is why it was a year later than the Leaf and Volt. I am not commenting on any batteries readiness to be on the market, only that Toyota started lithium battery development later.
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KixStartDecember 1st, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Steven02: "My point was that Toyota appears to have started lithium battery development later than GM by saying it wasn't ready when GM and Nissan were starting to work with it."
First, after a year, they may have uncovered evidence that it was ready.
Second, who cares? I don't know about Toyota but GM is not doing battery "development," they are doing battery "implementation" and they are attempting to prove out whether or not it can stand up to automtive use and last long enough to be practical in a $20k+ device that people expect to last for 15 years.
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Pch101December 1st, 2011 at 9:00 pm
My point was that Toyota appears to have started lithium battery development later than GM by saying it wasn't ready when GM and Nissan were starting to work with it.
Toyota had planned on using lithium ion batteries in the Prius staring in 2008. Those plans were delayed in 2007. Toyota isn't a Johnny-come-lately to lithium ion batteries.
We should all be skeptical of the fact that GM brought a lithium ion hybrid to market first. If Toyota, the company that has (a) more experience with hybrids and (b) a superior track record of reliability is bringing them to market later, then I would presume that it's because they knew better than to launch it too soon.
GM is not much of an innovator. Frankly, I don't see why it needs to be. If it can make pleasant, reliable cars at a reasonable price point, then that should be enough. GM could dominate when tailfins and cubic inches were marks of leadership, but those days are long gone.
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Steven02November 29th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
It is thousands less, but I am pretty sure it comes with less standard equipment as well. When you top it out, you are up at 40k with the same equipment as the Volt.
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KixStartNovember 29th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Steven02: "It is thousands less, but I am pretty sure it comes with less standard equipment as well."
Really? I heard that Toyota had tarted it up rather nicely. Their web site doesn't go into a lot of detail but at $32K you get heated seats and Navigation. You can surf over to Toyota.com and configure yours today.
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November 29th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
We don't know yet at what level the plug-in Prius will come, do we? It may well be fairly loaded.
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carbizNovember 29th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
This is nothing more than a Prius with a bigger battery. That is a natural progression. What is the big deal? This is nothing more than a blatant attempt by Toyota to take an end run at the Volt, which is all fine in the business world, but the media should know better.
None of these vehicles makes any real world sense. Buying a Civic or a Cruze would make more sense; however, in the world where people will pay anything to be 'green,' the Prius does not appeal. It still depends on gasoline for most of its driving.
I would barely make it to work and back on electricity with the Prius. With the Volt, I could make 2 or possibly 3 trips to work without having to recharge.
So much for Toyota pretending not to care about the Volt. This is nothing more than a blatant attempt to steal GM's thunder, and the usual suspects have already fallen for it.
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mike978November 29th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
I do agree, a standard Prius is many thousands cheaper and the cost of gas for those "free" 16 miles is minimal by comparison.
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LectroByteNovember 29th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
It seems like the next logical step for Toyota, and it remains to be seen if their price/battery size decision is more successful than the one GM made. Competition is good.
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KixStartNovember 29th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
It's a blatant attempt by Toyota to sell cars.
Gosh! Who would have thought that was a worthy goal? GM maintained that the reason for developing the Volt was to "leapfrog Toyota."
In any event, the nominal range gets me back and forth to work almost 3 times. Charging every day, I could do all my weekly driving on electricity. My wife's commute is longer but she could do 80% of her weekly driving on electricity (back and forth is within range but a side trip to the grocery store would put her over).
It still gets 50mpg when the battery goes dead, so there's not going to be much fuel expense beyond battery range, anyway.
So, why pay much more for range that would rarely get used? Other people are going to come to the same conclusion. Since HSD could be relatively easily turned in to a PHEV, Toyota isn't even going to be out very much development money if it turns out the market is small.
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StevoNovember 29th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Not quite just a bigger battery. Stronger (not larger) battery so the packaging is still very efficient, 5 pax, hatch, etc. Agree it is a natural progression but Toyota now has a decade plus history in the category that speaks volumes to potential customers. Sure the Volt goes farther on battery, but the Prius line has a range of options and better price points. Toyota would be here without the Volt. The fact that they now have the plug in is just more headache for GM.
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iMattNovember 29th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Don't look now, your bias is showing again. As you just said, the Prius could get you to work and back on electricity alone. Is there a problem with that?
Slandering Toyota for elevating their product in the name of competition seems well…a little bit biased.
TTAC seems to approach the comparison between the Volt and Prius with regard to the facts and nothing more.
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MusicMachineNovember 29th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Most of my trips are well w/in 16 miles.
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L'avventuraNovember 29th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
60,000 units is a lot. That's a big difference from what Toyota Spokesman John Hanson told the Detroit Free Press not that long ago; 16-17k. The Volt also expects 60,000 units next year. Considering that the Leaf too expects a large bump next year and new EVs are expected to hit the market from a slew of manufacturers, I have to wonder how large the market for these cars are at the moment.
$32k for a PHEV before tax rebates is attractive, and I'm sure many Prius owners will upgrade as this plug-in will still get near 50mpg when not in EV mode. But its still a car where consumers are more focused on environmental impact than economical practicality. It'll be interesting to see how large this eco-conscious market really is, and if it could support all these models.
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LectroByteNovember 29th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
I thought the $32k for the prius plugin was after the tax rebate? It's over $10k cheaper than the Volt for about half the EV range? That does sound more interesting.
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Steven02November 29th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
How do you figure 10k cheaper?
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L'avventuraNovember 29th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Its before tax rebate. But let's consider that Prius PHEV will not get the same amount of tax rebate as the Volt or Leaf as the rebate is calculated by battery size.
Under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, the tax Rebate is $2,500 plus $417 for each kilowatt-hour of battery capacity over 4 kWh with a maximum of 16 kwh. So the Leaf, which has a 24 kwh battery, and the Volt, which has a kwh, both have a tax rebate of $7,500 (Leaf gets no extra rebate even with a 50% larger battery).
The Prius PHEV should qualify for the base $2,500 federal tax rebate, and other local state rebates on top of that if applicable.
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protomechNovember 29th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Federal rebate is $2500 for plug-ins with at least 5 kwh, $500/kwh beyond 5 kwh to a maximum of $7500 at 15 kwh.
Prius PHEV base MSRP is $32000. Federal rebate is $2500 (5 kwh), net price counting federal rebate is $29500.
2012 Volt base MSRP is $39145. Federal rebate is $7500 (16 kwh), net price counting federal rebate is $31645.
Volt is $7k more expensive (comparing base to base) before rebates, or $2k more expensive after.
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November 29th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Count me as being surprised at how Toyota is pricing it. Given that li-ion costs are running at about $400 per kwh, the bare battery costs should be some $2-3k. Then subtract the cost of the deleted NiMh battery.
It would seem to me that the plug-in Prius could be priced much lower. Toyota is obviously not going for volume here. But if they ever decide to, they certainly have the ability to do so.
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protomechNovember 29th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Woops, L'avventura is correct about the rebate amounts.
Paul – it's possible Toyota is setting up for a swift reduction in price once the federal rebates expire.
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LectroByteNovember 30th, 2011 at 12:29 am
My math is a bit off, the only Volt I've seen in real life had an over $50k window sticker on it. It's still sitting in the showroom of our local Chevy dealer.
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KixStartNovember 29th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
It seems to me highly unlikely that the Volt will hit 60K units next year, unless they cut the price (recent FaceBook chat by ChevroletVolt says this won't happen) or gas becomes crushingly expensive (and then the economy will tank and nobody will buy a car, anyway).
I think we're looking at 1100 Volt sales for November. Maybe less. Sales increases will be very modest, at best, for the next few months.
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KixStartNovember 29th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Toyota's sales goals for the US seem fairly modest. Out of 60K, 35-40K will sell in Japan, leaving 20-25K for the "rest of the world." That leaves the US maybe 15K?
Looked at another way, Toyota seems to think something like 1 in 10 Priuses will be a PHEV. Of course, they could be hoping that they'll be getting people from the EV market that they have been missing until now, rather than just replacing standard Prius sales with Prius PHEV sales.
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carlisimoNovember 29th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
In California our electric rates can sometimes be high enough that an EV is only a little cheaper to run than a Prius. But gasoline prices are likely to rise faster than electricity (provided you charge at night)… and the lack of engine noise during a commute is enticing. I take the train to work so I'll keep my Miata, but my wife is considering a Leaf. A plug-in Prius would work too, but the Leaf feels better to drive. Its plug is better located, too (at the nose). We haven't tried the Volt – too expensive.
I understand batteries are improving about 8% a year, but no one knows if they should be taking advantage of it by increasing range or lowering price. If the tax incentives stay in place, I'd recommend that Toyota and Nissan focus on range, and Chevy on price.
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KixStartNovember 29th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
By "improving 8% a year," improvement in which direction? Price? Capacity? In order to increase range for any of these vehicles, capacity improvement is required… the battery is already so big that there's not much car left over. Adding more cheaper battery isn't very productive. If capacity is improving by 8%, increased capacity at the same price and size is more attractive but there's a few years between development of a new chemistry and the proof that it's really durable enough and has the lifespan necessary for automotive use.
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protomechNovember 29th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Speaking very generally and over a large window of time, capacity per weight, capacity per volume, and capacity per dollar all improve by about 8% per year.
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Dr. Kenneth NoisewaterNovember 29th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
My last electric bill came to a bit more than $0.08/KWh, now that the summer is over. Given my average driving efficiency, my cost per mile when I charge at home is now about 3.2 cents per mile, and more like 8/10 of a cent per mile using a public charger (which blends to about 2-2.5 cents per mile given that most miles are done commuting round-trip on a single charge).
And no fires or CELs or other issues yet. More reliable by far so far than my BMW bike or Merc.
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Robert FaheyNovember 29th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
GM can't afford a crisis of confidence, to put it mildly.
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APaGttHNovember 29th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Well, the story leaves out SOME details. The $32K version is stripped, not equipped. The Prius plug-in as I understand it comes in two flavors – stripped, well below the equipment level of a Volt or Leaf, for the $32K price point. And equipped, incrementally equipped above the Volt at the bargain price of $39,995.
Also lets be mindful, not a single EV, partial-electric, etc. etc. has delivered in the real world what the manufacturer suggests. The 16.4 mile Prius electric range is likely 20% to 30% below that (going on testing of other models) so the real world range is a more modest 12 miles likely (and yes your mileage may vary).
The biggest thing it has going for it is the Prius name part one and the larger interior over the Leaf and Volt. However as a viable partial-EV, I see this as pretty much stillborn out of the gate, with the "electrified" premium still coming in at close to $8K for a similarly equipped gas only Prius variant. $8,000 buys an awful lot of regular unleaded, even if it goes to $20 a gallon.
Here is the Toyota press release on pricing and features from September of 2011, the "base" model is equipped rather well, but still comes in around $7K to $7.5K above the price of its gas only brother. That is a hefty premium for electrification.
Prius Plug-in Hybrid will be available in two models, the Prius Plug-in and the Prius Plug-in Advanced. The Prius Plug-in Hybrid model comes equipped with an abundance of standard features including heated front seats, Remote Air Conditioning System (which can run either off the grid while the vehicle is plugged in or off the battery like the third-generation Prius Liftback), a charger timer, EV/ECO/POWER modes, three-door Smart Key, Display Audio with Navigation and Entune1 and an integrated backup camera, LED Daytime Running Lights, 15-inch 10-spoke alloy wheels, enhanced Multi-information Display and much more.
The Prius Plug-in Advanced model adds additional standard features including Premium HDD Navigation with Entune2 and JBL® GreenEdge™, Plug-in Hybrid Applications through a user's smartphone (Charge Management, Remote Air Conditioning System, Charging Station Map, Vehicle Finder and Eco Dashboard), Head-up Display, Dynamic Radar Cruise Control, Pre-Collision System, LED headlamps with auto on/off feature and integrated fog lamps, SofTex-trimmed seating, an eight-way power adjustable driver's seat, Safety Connect and more.
The base MSRP for the Prius Plug-in Hybrid is $32,000. The Prius Plug-in Hybrid Advanced will have an MSRP of $39,525. Both Prius Plug-in models are expected to qualify for a federal tax credit of approximately $2,500
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SpinnyDNovember 29th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Since when does "stripped" mean a SatNav system and iPod controls? I think your living a whole lot higher on the hog than me , my friend!
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redmondjpNovember 29th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Guys, this has nothing to do with the Volt. The concept of a plug-in Prius has been around for years in the EV community, starting back when Toyota was advertising that "you didn't have to plug it in" and had ZERO interest in developing the concept.
This all got started when EV club members around the world figured out that there were differences in the speed at which the Prius would transition from battery-only mode to engine on, depending upon which countries the car was being sold in (IIRC the Japanese ones had a switch on the dash which would modify this behavior).
Discussions ensued on how far one could actually drive the Prius in battery-only mode. EV club members in CA and WA who owned new Prii actually started modifying their vehicles' software as well as adding additional batteries, thus creating the first plug-in versions of the Prius.
Toyota is only now bowing to this consumer demand. This website give a bit of history on the topic:
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KixStartNovember 29th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
I just looked at Toyota's web site… yes, you can configure and order your PHEV today. Here's the best part:
"you customize"
"and order"
"we custom build"
"and deliver to your dealer."
It is possible that Volt sales are lagging partly because of GM's "dealer allocation" hooey. It's certainly the case that "dealer allocation" hooey has been the foundation for the some of the blame of low sales among The GM Faithful.
Toyota isn't doing any of that nonsense. Their message is: "Want one? Order it; we'll build it and get it to you."
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PaulVincentNovember 29th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
As for the so called no power Prius, many I've seen have been flying along the Interstate at speeds of 88-95 mph. So much for no power.
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Dr. Kenneth NoisewaterNovember 29th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Can it do that on battery power alone?
Flooring it in a Volt in sport mode is a whole lot more fun than any Prius I've driven, and as it's basically silent apart from wind and tire noise (and occasional tire chirp), it's actually rather deceptive as you don't have the scream of an engine and the slap of a gear change to give you any indication of your speed..
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APaGttHNovember 29th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Spoken like a true Prius fanboi.
Who needs an FT-86, my Prius is gonna whup your ass off the line!
A 1971 VW Super Beetle could get to 85 MPH, just took it 18 seconds to get to 60 and 21 seconds to burn through the 1/4 mile. But keep that pedal down on flat pavement and it will find 85 MPH – eventually – just like a Prius.
HINT: Second Gen Prius didn't have enough power to hit its speed limiter, running out of steam somewhere around 100 MPH. By modern standards, 0 to 60 in the 11 second range and a top speed of maybe 100 MPH is – pathetic.
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Thinkin...November 29th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
A normal prius has a 0-60 time of 9.8 seconds by the book, although the glossy mags beat that by a bit, and it's limited to 115mph I believe. The damn things are so slippery that t it doesn't take much power to get there.
Needless to say, dragstrip times aren't a major concern to the target market for any of these cars. Though I did read an article about a Prius with a SBC swap a while back…
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Steven02November 30th, 2011 at 10:42 am
It doesn't have power. Most cars can get to 88-95… eventually. The Prius is terrible, IMHO, on starting and especially on the highway.
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kokomokidMarch 14th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
A regular Prius will do 0-60 in about 10 seconds, quicker than the popular V8 family cars of the 60's, like a Chevy Biscayne with a 283. A Prius will go as fast as you want on the highway. I've had one for two years, and have taken 4 trips of about 1100 miles. I go about 75 mph on the Interstate, when conditions allow, and I average about 44 mpg for these trips. This is calculated mpg. The readout is a little "optimistic" and says even higher.
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Da CoyoteNovember 29th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
It would be interesting to talk with some of the GM engineers who've worked the Volt project. I've known a few over the years (not Volt engineers, but folks from previous GM generations). They were all brilliant.
But, they also had virtually the same things to say about management and the folks who put the machines together.
When your design constraints include MBAs with the IQ of a congress-critter, and workers to whom "quality" is the amount of time spend on vacation…well, that does put a crimp in your designs.
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jhott997November 29th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
I worked at GM.
I worked on the Volt powertrain program.
It is interesting to read these threads.
It was intersting to work there…
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daveainchinaNovember 29th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
It will be interesting to see how things play out over the next 5 years. I suspect that the successors to the Volt and Prius will become the more normal type of cars (ok maybe 20 years).
I think Volt changed things and the Prius was close enough in Technology that to do something similar was relatively easy. Notice it cannot exceed the Volt in battery range. I would say that that is because this is a modification from a design and not part of the original design.
I wonder what the next Prius will be like in about 5 years. Want to bet on a battery range contest much like a MPG contest we have going on now?
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PaulVincentNovember 29th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
To whom it may concern: I am not in love with the Prius (just bought a 2012 Focus Titanium this past April). I've just stated what I've observed about some of them on the Interstate, and the fact is that once up to highway speeds, they move along quite well. As for exceeding 100, well, for a couple of years now (in Illinois), that can earn you a trip to jail or even a psych ward. As for the smaller battery Toyota placed in the Prius, I'm all for that: I've replaced oversized factory batteries in many of the cars I've owned.
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Robert.WalterNovember 30th, 2011 at 4:50 am
Oxymoron: "Museum of Emerging…" Almost like "Instant or Future Classic".
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mfennellNovember 30th, 2011 at 8:28 am
A couple things missed.
That 16 miles is (essentially) the Euro city cycle test. The Volt does 51 or 52 on the same test.
The PHEV Prius is blended PHEV. If you accelerate too hard (more than 40hp worth IIRC), the engine turns on. The Prius fan club assures this is somehow better. Maybe it is, unless you want to buy a car that can run EV all the time. The Volt runs EV exclusively until the battery is exhausted (yeah, there are a few possible exceptions but I've never encountered them.
my volt has had one problem in 9 months. A sticky charge door. Yes it tripped a CEL. Fixed under warranty without issue.
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kokomokidMarch 14th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
The Prius is better in that it gets better mpg on gas, and has more room. The Volt is better, in that you can never use gas, as long as you don't go too far.
I like the way the Volt drives better. The silence and smoothness of power train when running on battery only is cool, and it it is a little "sportier" to drive than a Prius. For me, though, the (regular liftback) Prius is much better, because of the price, because I often drive more than 35 miles at a time, and, even more importantly, I would have no place to plug in a car at my condo.
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kokomokidMarch 14th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
A big difference between a Volt and a plug-in Prius, is that the Volt has "full performance" on battery power, while the Prius has much less electric motor power available, and will crank up the ICE at any time, if you floor it. The bottom line is that the Volt makes relatively more sense for people who do almost all their driving within electric-only range. If you do a lot of driving beyond electric range, the plug-Prius would be better, even at the same price, because it gets much better mpg on gas.
As far as equipment, the "base" Prius plug-in is very well equipped, at least by my standards. Even my base regular Prius, about $23.5K MSRP is well equipped, with auto temp control, "smart key," and other features that were only on more expensive cars just a few years ago. In addition, the base plug-in Prius has nav, bluetooth connectivity, satellite radio, back up camera, and maybe some other stuff I missed.
My car is a 2010, so it may be missing a couple things that a current base Prius has, like bluetooth.
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By C Runyan
From: Boulder, CO
Apr 28, 2008
|Great jam crack. My favorite route at Old Rag -- perfect hands and fists nearly all of the way (as for wide gear, I used two #3s and one #4). The crux is definitely the hike in (well worth it, though).
By Ryan Fischer
From: Littleton
Dec 30, 2008
|I'm definitely bringing tape next time. Super burly and ultra classic line.
By Ross Swanson
From: Pinewood Springs
Jul 25, 2009
rating: 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c
|It was Alex Badart that told me Cal Swoager, or Mike Artz did a onsight solo (1980's).
By Rafael Rovirosa
From: Salt Lake, UT
Mar 31, 2012
|Fun, steep, and stout. The belay is under the roof. There are some old fixed nuts with webbing going directly through the wires that are used to lower off.
By K Baumgartner
Nov 11, 2013
rating: 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b
A fun thrash getting there and up the route.
I used two #3s, a #2, and two #1s among big gear.
There are several starts, so choose your adventure.
Crux for me was the roof. Great hand jams and finger goodness await once you pull onto the face.
As of 11 November, there were three fixed nuts with two pieces of webbing with two non locking opposed biners. I added two pieces (.3 and .4) to back up the anchor for TRing.
By DennisL
From: Bishop, CA
Nov 11, 2013
Incredible line - great hand jamming and nice face features. Crux for me was pulling the roof and I felt lucky to get to do moves like that at 10c!
I think I brought .5, .75, and doubles from #1 to #3. Ran out of hand and larger sizes up top but managed to place the smaller pieces. I would have appreciated another #2 and #3 and also a #4. Using a horizontal crack to the left of the line, we pre-placed a #1 in the end of the roof to protect the bouldery start without causing rope drag problems later.
As of 11/13 the anchor up top is three nuts with a few pieces of webbing, none of them particularly fresh-looking, slung directly through the rusty wires. Definitely bring small cams and nuts to back up the anchor!
This climb deserves a bolted anchor.
By Matt Lavender
Nov 20, 2014
|The first ascent of Bushwack Crack (and most of the other '80s era plums on Old Rag) belongs to Greg Collins. I believe he did the first ascent, onsight, solo but would have to confirm that with Greg. The jams are locker and the climb has been soloed (onsight or otherwise) by numerous people.


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|August 3, 2012, 07:39 PM
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High Primer Loaded Cartridge Stuck in Shell Holder
So...what do I do? Aside from running down to bass pro shops and buying a new shell holder(would be my 3rd trip there today! lol), what are my options? It seems like I might be able to slowly slide it out, but that just doesn't seem like a good idea. Given to hold it the bullet or primer is inevitably pointed at some part of my hand. Seem like a good way to get a burn and a chunk of metal in my hand.
Here's a pic of the situation.
|August 3, 2012, 07:43 PM
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Seat the primer deeper.
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|August 3, 2012, 07:44 PM
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I thought it was unsafe to attempt to reseat a primer?
|August 3, 2012, 07:45 PM
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Pull the bullet, dump the powder... spray the primer with oil and remove it.
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|August 3, 2012, 07:49 PM
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If you have a kinetic puller, you'll notice that the shell holder is about the same size as the collet. Tape it on if you can't get the threaded nut on over the shell holder. Put the whole thing in and pull the bullet then seat the primer deeper once there is no more powder and bullet.
I have reseated a few primers in loaded rounds before, but I always feel pretty nervous doing it. Although I've never set off a primer seating it, you never know.....
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|August 3, 2012, 07:53 PM
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I would pull the bullet (if you don't have a puller use pliers) dump the powder and punch the primer out. You should determine why you failed to seat the primer, obviously you did not do a visual or you would have seen it not seated properly. Always check the primer is seater at least flush or slightly below. William
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|August 3, 2012, 07:57 PM
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Primers go off from impact, not pressure.
Hell, even impact from a firing pin fails to set them off if they aren't seated deep enough.
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|August 3, 2012, 08:07 PM
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Pulling that bullet could be extremely dangerous. There are multiple documented instances of a primer igniting because a shell holder was used in a kinetic puller.
The most obvious and safest thing, really the only appropriate thing, is to just seat the primer. There is no more risk than there was seating it the first time.
Don't over complicate it.
|August 3, 2012, 08:16 PM
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Got a point Brain. I have a ancient, screw bullet puller... and have never used a kinetic in my life.
If there are documented incidents where primer ignition could happen... then seating the primer the remainder of the way would be the safest.
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|August 3, 2012, 08:35 PM
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"There are multiple documented instances of a primer igniting because a shell holder was used in a kinetic puller."
Well, there was at least ONE. And there is reason to question the validity of that story. That looks like a screw up from loading a round start to finish in a turret press without removing the case; that's less than an ideal way to reload, IMHO. But, put the shell holder and cartridge back in the press and pull the bullet with wire cutter pliers and there will be no hazard at all to punching the primer out normally with a sizer die.
|August 3, 2012, 08:37 PM
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The only danger of seating the primer deeper is if a granule of powder has fallen through the flash hole and somehow exerts enough pressure on the primer to set it off. Highly unlikely, but if you drape a heavy cloth over the whole press while seating and wear eye protection, you will be OK.
Take the cartridge, hold it in your hand, primer side up and shake gently until you figure any powder sandwiched between the primer and the primer pocket has fallen back through the flash hole into the main body of the cartridge. Then put your shell holder with cartridge back into your press and seat the primer.
As was said before, it is a sudden impact that is supposed to set off primers. Slow pressure rarely does.
But do take precautions. Even though the damage that can be done by a cartridge igniting while it is not in a chamber or other confined space is minimal, bad luck can throw a shred of brass into tender places. Besides, the embarrassment is well worth any precautions you can take. ("But honey, I shielded the press before I started!") If you are married, and your spouse is at home when you do this, it would be best to tell her not to worry if she hears a bang. I have set off a primer before (on purpose, I chambered a primered empty cartridge and fired it just to see how much power and noise a primer had.). If you have a small apartment, your neighbors MIGHT be able to hear it. If you have a large house, someone on another floor MIGHT miss it. It is a worthwhile experiment. Put a piece of paper in front of the muzzle. The burn marks are educational, too.
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|August 3, 2012, 08:42 PM
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Thanks Guys! No fire, no mayhem, first/test run continues on!
|August 3, 2012, 08:55 PM
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Seating a high primer in a case that has a bullet and powder already loaded is NOT as safe as seating the primer in an empty case.
Rarely, a primer that is not seating properly WILL go off while being seated. Since this primer did not seat properly, there may be an issue with the primer or case, and there IS a slight possibility that trying to seat it will set it off.
With powder and a bullet in the case, the primer will probably ignite the powder if it does go off. If the case is not confined by a die, then it MIGHT just poof the bullet out of the case and do no real harm. BUT, I have set off loaded rounds outside of a firearm (intentionally as a kid) and had the equivalent of a cherry bomb, except that it does blow brass shrapnel around instead of sawdust. That is definitely a sight hazard, at least. I would expect that it could remove fingers or worse.
Confined in a die, a loaded round is definitely a bomb if it does go off. Think firing a round in a gun with a barrel obstruction.
So, considering the previous thread about setting off a cartridge by using a shellholder for a press instead of the proper holder for a kenetic puller, I suggest that you sacrifice the bullet by pulling it with pliers, dump the powder and THEN try to reseat the primer.
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Cuz brought me an icecream bucket full of 45 acp just like that .Apparently theres no feedback on a Lee pro 1,000 on priming.
I had a 12"x18" peice of 1/4 plate steel ,I leaned it on/over the round while useing a press mounted priming set up .
Did`nt set a primer off, but the pucker factor was kinda hi
|August 3, 2012, 09:11 PM
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My press primes on the downstroke, so it's as far away from the die as it can be. While I can't be 100% certain, I believe it was due to operator error on my part, rather than an obstruction or misshapen brass or primer. After all, it was the 18th live round I've ever loaded.
Fortunately it finished seating just fine.
|August 4, 2012, 11:07 AM
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It's good to ask questions, but these guys are paranoid and making it way more complicated than it has to be. I've had to reseat primers maybe a hundred times or more over the years and it's no big deal.
Caution is good, paranoia is not productive.
|August 4, 2012, 11:41 AM
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The same applies to all the supposed dangers of lead.
Real secret, common sense!
|August 4, 2012, 12:12 PM
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You could put the cartridge and shell holder in the press without a die, if you can grab the bullet with vise grips the bullet will pull out when the ram is lowered.
|August 4, 2012, 01:05 PM
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This is one of the reasons I pre-prep and hand prime all my brass.
|August 4, 2012, 07:13 PM
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Why not just toss it?
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|August 4, 2012, 07:17 PM
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Even though shell holders are cheap, options are preferable to throwing out a perfectly good part. Anywho, since you skipped the thread...the problem was already resolved, without throwing the shell holder out.
|August 4, 2012, 07:39 PM
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Stick shell holder with bullet back in press and pull handle and reset primer deeper. If you choose to throw it away then get my address and throw it my way.
|August 4, 2012, 08:12 PM
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May I ask How/Why you were seating a primer after charging and seating the bullet?
|August 4, 2012, 08:21 PM
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How it came to pass is unclear in post #1, but the photograph is pretty clear why he is trying to seat it now. The primer prevents the cartridge from coming out of the shell holder.
I speculate that Sigcurious was loading in a Turret Press using the continuous mode, completed all the operations (except only partially completed the primer seating part) and discovered the problem, a bullet that would not come out of the shell holder because of a primer not fully seated.
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I was in a hurry once, passed up about 10 that needed primers. Went ahead and charged and seated bullets, then remembered did not have primers. Went ahead and seated primers. Could have pulled bullets and started over but chose to seat primers. No biggie. I know it could be dangerous as some say it could also be scary to walk outside and look up to see an airplane falling out of sky and hitting your head too. Not saying this is the best way to do things just saying sometimes things happen.
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Supplier Homepage Product PAP series self-adheisve protective PE film High Temperature Self Adhesive PE Protective Film for Marble
High Temperature Self Adhesive PE Protective Film for Marble
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|Min. Order:
|30,000 Square Meters
|Shenzhen, China
|Production Capacity:
|30, 000 Tons/Year
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Basic Info
- Model NO.: PAP
- Type: Protective Film
- Hardness: Soft
- Size: Maximum 2100mm
- Transport Package: Carton, Pallet
- Origin: China
- Material: LLDPE
- Transparency: Transparent
- Molding method: Blow Molding
- Trademark: NCS
- Specification: 70-2100mm
- HS Code: 3920109090
Product Description
Produced in 1000 class dust free workshops & enclosed environment. Can be customerized with different adhesivenesses for different products. Nice & Tidy appearance makes the successful applying to the surface protection. It can be peeled off easily without adhesive residue or migration Suitable for process & terminal protecting of IT products like LGP, glass, prism sheets, polarizer lens, retardation plates and etc. Comply with REACH, RoHS.
1)Super Transparency
2)Low gel & non pollution
3)High cleanness due to production in 1000 class dust free workshops
4)Good adhesive strength
5)No residue, No migration
7)Pollution & contamination resistance
8)Chemical corrison resistance
9)Environment friendly
10)Nice & Tidy appearance
1) Perfect for process & terminal protecting of IT products like LGP, glass, prism sheets, polarizer lens, retardation plates and etc.
2) Suitable for surface protection of plastic sheets like PC, PVC, Acrylic boards etc, metal sheets like stainless steel sheets, aluminium alloy sheets etc.
Thickness: 30um ~180um
Width: <=2100mm
Colors: Transparent, White, Blue, Green and etc.