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Dutchman -- thanks for explaining about the squawfish/northern pike minnow. Obviously, I assumed you were referring to a fly that looked like a pike. My mistake! What's that they say about the word "assume" :hehe:
Man, am I skating on this one
And on that note:
1. Think of this: if Mepps made Aglia trolling lures in such obnoxious colors and sizes as to match forage and NOT aggravate - there'd be no point. I mean to say if ANYTHING in the forage world remotely looks the same as a yellow google eyed lead head, red thread tied on white over bright green bucktail with a gold willow spinner spoon, I want to see it.
2. Someone direct me to Colin's book. I know I can find it on BN.com, etc.
3. Someone else expect those flies to be posted TOMORROW???:eyecrazy: (burning candles at too many ends or just getting old and tired - I can't figure out which )
|Dble Haul
I also have to agree with Dave, especially his assertion that the fly does not necessarily have to imitate the primary forage of the water that's being fished. The most successful pike flies are not always those that represent the natural baitfish accurately; rather, they are attractor flies that prey upon the pike's predatory instincts to feed upon the weak, vulnerable, and obvious.
Come to think of it, the number of attractor patterns in my pike box outnumber the natural imitators by about five to one.
|John Desjardins
I agree with you that Colin Kageyama's book is good read. I've read it a couple of times and come away with new thoughts each time I read it. The color plates are worth the price of the book alone. One of these days I'd like to replicate some of his pictures in the tea colored water that is common in the northeast, and take a few of surface flies from the fishes view.
Hi Quentin. Nice to hear from you.Once again I have failed to express myself very well. We have A nuisence fish out here that untill recently was called a Squawfish. The new name for it now is Northern Pike minnow. I have no idea where they came up with that name. Just as an aside.this fish is such A problem there is A bounty on these guys. through out the entire Columbia river system. the colors would be brown gold and A dark tan. I don't know if you have these guys where you are or not. I have A fly that I have tied that is A Carry Stevens Pike pattern that I did from a written recipe. I have seen some pictures of her flys and they are beautiful. The one I tried to do is not.
Because I am A ranke amature here I am trying to stick to what has proven effective for those of you wo have been fishing these guys for some time. Again thank all of you who graciously contributed here. I am intrigued with Daves thoughts on color materials and material placement. I am currently reading a book called What fish See by Colin Kageyama. Has any one read it yet. It is A great read. He is A optometrist and rabid steelheader. He talks about the physiology of the fish ; how why and when they see what the seeThen he talks a lot about color shifts due to distance ,depth and clearity. I am looking foreward to playing with some of this stuff. Dave I think you will really enjoy it. In all of my fishing my favorite fly is the one with the fish firmly attached
This marabou/hackle thing I'm doing measures between 6 and 8" max. The gape of the hook is somewhere in between 1/2" and 5/8" inclusive, if memory serves...it may be a bit wider.
I respectfully submit this idea: If a narrow gap, long shank streamer hook is used, how wide is the gap; where would the material tie-in begin or end, and where does the fisherman expect the fly to be attacked. I agree with Pete about lip or corner hooking, because these things tend to attack from oblique angles and then quickly turn away and toward the hiding place (my experience).
Here's a different way to ask the same thing.
1. Where would anyone of us position our materials, thus establishing the hook position for attack.
2. How much gape do we LIKE, visually, on a bare hook.
3. How much stuff are we tying in; how much gape are we eliminating with stuff.
Quentin, my answer to what patterns would someone tie for these guys is anything large enough to do the job, forage related or not, from old style streamer patterns right up to all the super flashy, super colorful salt patterns. If a Tarpon will grab something green, purple and yellow, a pike or muskie should be expected to grab a pink, orange or turquoise something or other...
By the way, this is all just mental gymnastics for me, and no measure of this is intended to start any flamefests or challenge anyone's intelligence. I'd love to tie up some outrageous color combinations and throw them at these guys.
BTW, on two separate occasions I witnessed a larger pickerel attack a smaller pickerel that came unhooked right at shore. In both cases, the small pickerel sat motionless immediately after coming unhooked (the way they often do) and while it was sitting there the larger pickerel charged it, grabbed it by the middle of the body and backed out into deeper water to try to swallow its meal. I don't know if the feeding attempts were successful because the "food" wasn't much smaller than the attacker (about 2/3 the length). I have also caught a couple of scarred fish from pike-infested waters and the teeth marks were on the middle of the body. I'm not sure how much the feeding behavior of larger pike and tiger muskies differs from that of their smaller relatives, but these fish seem to target the area just behind the gills when attacking their prey. Perhaps that explains why FrenchCreek had better success with lip hooking the fish when using shorter shanked hooks, and tended to hook the fish deeper when using longer shanked hooks? This is just a guess based upon my observations and somewhat limited experience with catching pike and tiger muskies (I haven't caught any over 10# yet).
Regarding my hook selection. My reasoning for going to the 10xl is that last year when I was checking out this particular fishery,I had Achance to talk with the state fishery biologist who has been incharge of this project for about ten or twelve years. Tiger Musky were introduced to this res. to control the N. Pike Minnow/Squawfish. When they started the average size (squa.) was fourteen inches. they had just shocked the lake recently and the average size was nine inches. Now my thinking(yes I do that,just not very often) is, at least one of my patterns should should come close to that. Particularly in light of the fact they only eat once A day and like big baits. Is my understanding close here. Go ahead let me have it. I'm tough. The biologist show me what was left of one of those articulated plugs. Idon't know just how big it was origonaly but the front half was about three inches I guess. I couldn't tell for sure because when the fish hit it he took the whole back half off above the eye that held the two halves together. that plug was CRUSHED! I have been salivating all over mysef Just waiting for A chance at these guys. After reviewing this post, I may have to stop doing this at 4:00 a.m. Thaks again
regarding concern about hook length
When I said long shank, I didn't mean anything with a very extended length. This hook I described is 4X long, which isn't very much longer than a standard shank. If you have any Mustad 34007 in 1/0 or 2/0 (stainless) to compare against 34011, then you have an approximate comparison of what I'm describing in a Varivas 990S Salt versus 994S Salt.
Here is another mental picture: These hooks nestle very nicely inside a 35mm film canister with a little distance left to the cap.
Pete: the bouface I'm tying is tied about halfway back, leaving shank wound withthread, similar to a tarpon tie.
Wow guys this has been great !!! For someone who knows nothing about fishing for Tiger Musky,this has been great
I'm tying my Berry's Pike fly on A3/0 tiemco 811s. That is A stainless ring eye with A9/16 hook gap. Sounds like I really don't need to bend the point out. I also tied some Perch and Northern Pike minnow patterns on A Partridge hook called A Carrie Stevens. It is A 2/0 ten extra long streamer hook. It is three inches from the eye to the bend. It is A great lookig iron. I know she would be pleased. But now I am conserned over the remark about long hooks. I guess that is one of the things I'll have to sort out. Thank you everyone for your input.
I do a fair amount of pike fishing (flies) and on occasion, when I get back East, some muskie fishing(flies also). All of my flies are "flat". I use the Gamakatsu hooks (its the straight eye - with an semi open eye style ?? the correct name escapes me) because of their short shank, needle point and wide gap. Since these critters really attack a fly at the head, I find I get more and shallower hook ups, very seldom down deep, mostly on the jaw or lips. I tried long shank hooks and lost many more fish and had many more "deep throat" situations.
I have never tried the offset hooks but I do think this is a very informative topic and for all who are concerned with C&R, one that shoud get more "exploration". This forum can be the source of much experience on this topic, not only for pike & muskie, but for all species.
If anyone else out there has an opinion & experience on Flat Vs. Offsett, please share it with the rest of us.
In all of my tying years, hook selection has been one of the most crucial decision to a successfull pattern. AND I have changed hook selection to increase the ease of release with the result often being more "long releases" but overall more satisfaction and challenge in targeting a particular fish with a specific hook style that I know is more risky to me, but not to by fishy friends.
Thank You. Now I understand more clearly.
Targeting these aggressive species suggests strong wire hooks, yet doesn't require an offset in the hook profile. No, I do not mean to imply every hookset will result in potentailly fatal damage; it is my mistake that I presumed the question to be oriented toward bait, more so than artificials or flies.
I am in the process of tying a few pike flies. These are Marabou headed, with several hackle and schlappen body profile feathers, and some assorted flash. I am tying them on a 2/0 long-shank stainless, saltwater hook made by Varivas. This hook is standard flat profile, no offset, and has a rather wide gape between point and hook shank. The hook is in proportion to the materials size, and I expect it to hook if taken, based on the gape.
The general presumption is that an offset profile hook is used with bait, and intended to hook fish for the table. I'd love to be out pike fishing, too - hope you have good luck.
[EDIT] John, you beat me by minutes. I hadn't had a chance to read over between sessions. I didn't mean to cause the gentleman any concern, as noted above.
It is my question as to why use a j-style hook, with an offset, when a wider gape - essentially creating more to 'bite' on, accomplishes the same purpose, and the fish then almost hooks itself in it's mad thrash to tear the bait from the water. Remember, we're talking about a targeted species in this scenario. These babies aren't noted for being civilized.
Circle hooks are, in general, a flat-profile hook. Different manufacturers may say "circle" and have consumers think all hooks are created equal; it's far from the case. A flat profile circle hook will generally slide up from the gullet without catching on the way up. With any type of offset hook, the hook will turn.
As always, this is just personal observation and opinion.
|John Desjardins
I think that we've discussed the offset hook causing mortality on circle hooks. To recap for Dutchman, when bait fishing on circle hooks an offset point can cut the fish's gullet when the hook is pulled from the stomach and set in the jaw. From my memory I don't think we've ever discussed the mortality or or the hooking effectiveness of offset J hooks.
I could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time my memory was bad.
I did not take exception to your question. But I do really appreciate your concern in that regard. Thank you.
Now to the question. My intent is purely catch and release. From the responses to the thread,I keep getting the feeling that I am not expressing myself very well. I have never caught A Tiger Musky and wanted to know if I push the point out to one side a little would it improve my hook up ratio or is it even necessary. My understanding from your resonce is this will lead to fatal ingestion is that correct. They look to be magnificent fish and I would never do that just to improve my catch if it meant A potential fatality. I just don't see how that would happen. can you please help me understand this more clearly. As you can probably see I am one of those people who needs all the help he can get. Just for clearity I am fishing flys and not bait. Again i don't know if that makes A difference. I am really looking to your responce.
Is the intent to catch and release or provide a meal?
We've seen the discussions of offset versus straight pull hooks several times. Offset certainly swings the balance in favor of hookset, yet presents problems a la potentially swallowed baits. No flame intention meant; just asking.
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10. "Night on Fire" - VHS or Beta
9. "Edge of the Ocean" - Ivy
8. "Loser" - Beck
7. "One Armed Scissor" - At the Drive-In
6. "Into the Fire" - Sarah McLachlan
5. "The 1234" - The Start
4. "Smile Like You Mean It" - The Killers (listened to this one last night)
3. "Amos Moses" - Jerry Reed
2. "Rock 'n Roll Woman" - Buffalo Springfield
1. "Money City Maniacs" - Sloan
This is not necessarily reflective of which are my favorite, since I put my purchased songs on shuffle quite a bit, though I know I've often started listening with one of these tunes, except for "Into the Fire". I actually prefer the other two songs that I've purchased from that album - "Drawn to the Rhythm" and "Shelter".
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Kylo Ren - came from Space Brooklyn, although he moved to Space Williamsburg before it was trendy.
The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.
I'm a little surprised you'd have to download "Loser." Someone with a collection as extensive as yours, it seems odd you don't have Mellow Gold already.
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I'm not necessarily a big fan of Beck. I remember when that song was new, and I liked it. However, I didn't really hear anything else from it, and didn't feel motivated to buy it based on that song alone. Odelay had two or three songs I had heard, and I think I got it through Columbia House. I've never really listened to it that much. Next time I heard him was on SNL for one of his next couple albums, and I didn't really like what he performed then. That was either Mutations or Seachange, or both. I just looked up the songs he performed on SNL in 1999 and 2003, and none of the sound clips grab my attention at the moment.
When he came out with Guerro, I was listening to the Music Choice alternative channel a lot, and I really liked "E-Pro", and the the "Missing" remix on Guerolito, "Heaven Hammer". The Information had a couple good songs that I heard a lot, and his performance on SNL in 2006 was really cool with the marionettes mimicking what the band was doing.
So, I have Odelay, and 5 Beck songs from iTunes:
"Heaven Hammer (Missing) [Air Remix]"
"Think I'm In Love"
These days, I find it harder to get into entire albums if I haven't heard it first. Plus it is cheaper to just buy the songs I know I like than buy a full CD I rarely listen to. Maybe I have adult onset ADD.
You should try to track down "Lost Cause," "Rowboat," and "A**hole." Those are some good Beck tracks.
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What is my goldfish doing hanging at top of tank?
Hi all! So, for the last few weeks or so my ryukin goldfish, Cheddar, has been spending a lot of time in the top corner of the tank. He is not gasping or floating, but is just kinda sitting at the top of the tank in the same corner for a substantial length of time. When he is not doing this, though, he acts completely normal, eats well, and I cannot see any other symptoms of illness. Like I said, he has been doing this off and on for a few weeks. Sometimes he will go days without me seeing him do it, and then he will start again.
He is alone in a 15 gallon vertical tank. My water levels are consistently good and I do a 25% water change once a week. For the past month or so though I have been having a brown algae problem. I cant seem to get it to stop growing!
I've had cheddar since July and my tank finished cycling in the beginning of September. I have only changed the filter once and that was at the end of Sept, so right before Cheddar starting acting weird.
Could this just be his new place to hang out? Or is something wrong with him? Any advice you can give would be great! Thanks!
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Might be he just sleeps up there? Many fish find spots they just like and will stay there much of the time.


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The first rule for running a successful race for governor is never to say anything of substance about anything. Taking even the most innocuous of positions (Do you think Maine should have an official state skin disease?) will only cost a candidate votes.
Being decisive gets a politician labeled as a fanatic ("I was brought up to believe this honor belongs to acne, and as governor, I will never compromise on that").
Being definitive often forces a potential officeholder to backtrack later on ("My alleged endorsement of ringworm was taken out of context by those seeking to divert attention from the real issues in this campaign").
But being wishy-washy can sometimes earn a pol four years of free room and board in the Blaine House ("I have heard the arguments for scabies. I have heard the arguments for mange. I am meeting next week with the supporters of psoriasis. I think they all have an itch to contribute to the discussion").
Most of the contenders for governor in 2010 have learned this lesson. They've become adept at taking what look like actual stands on all kinds of issues without ever delving more than skin-deep.
Here's what Democratic frontrunner and former Attorney General Steven Rowe told the Capitol News Service about his plan for the economy: "We have to make the investments in our future. We have to invest in our people, in our children, and that is what I want to do."
This puts Rowe firmly on record as ... um ... well, it looks like ... I dunno, something.
On the matter of skin diseases, Rowe is thought to be leaning toward poison ivy, but has not yet officially decided and is unlikely to do so until he's had more time to study the arguments of all sides.
On his Web site, Republican hopeful Matt Jacobson had this to say about his proposed environmental policies: "Maine's environment is one of our greatest economic resources. In many parts of our state, natural resources remain the best opportunity for good jobs and a better future. For me, that means environmental protection goes hand in hand with a strong economy."
We're probably safe in assuming that Jacobson is opposed to turning Moosehead Lake into a hazardous-waste disposal site and would resist efforts to level Mount Katahdin to make room for a trailer park. Other than that, your guess is as good as mine.
As for his pick for an official skin disease, Jacobson is rumored to have already accepted large campaign contributions from political-action committees fronting for both sunburn and black-fly bites.
GOP hopeful Bruce Poliquin told the Times Record he has "a passion for this state," which has "a special quality of life." He went on to say, "We know what the issues are, and we know what the solutions are — or we can figure them out."
We can? Then why haven't we?
Poliquin is so excited about running for governor he gets goose bumps, but that's not technically a disease, so instead, he might endorse hives.
Green Independent Party candidate Lynne Williams is more pointed than the mainstream contenders in her criticism of state government, but she still lapsed into pol-speak when asked by the Bar Harbor Times about economic development. "We need to look at the skills of the workers in our state," she said, "and think about how we can turn 20th century skills into 21st century jobs."
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Special Sneak Preview. In 2010, Indian-American filmmaker Virkam Gandhi went to Phoenix and invented a spiritual workshop from scratch. Amazingly enough, people believed him.
Filmmaker Virkam Gandhi will be in attendance for a Q and A following the screening. After the Q and A there is an after party for all in attendance at Fontana's, with complimentary beverages.
Kumaré (Vikram Gandhi | USA | 84 min.)
In 2010, Indian-American filmmaker Virkam Gandhi went to Phoenix and invented a spiritual workshop from scratch. That's the premise of Kumaré, a documentary that Gandhi assembled out of his experience, in which he created a fake spiritual guru, replete with heavy accent, far-out proclamations, and a tiny legion of followers.
A longtime cynic from New Jersey, Gandhi recounts his mounting disdain for spiritual leadership, a result of being inundated with Indian traditions as a child. As a documentarian, he initially intended to capture the phenomenon of gurus around the world, but felt compelled to raise the stakes once he noticed that "the gurus were trying to out-guru each other," as he explains in voiceover. So he decided to join them, growing out his beard and inventing his own nonsensical meditation techniques. Collecting a few eager disciples, all white Americans with their own soul-searching conundrums to work out, Gandhi begins his teachings with the eventual intention of revealing his true identity. Eventually, the director talks about his hesitation to unveil himself to his followers at the risk of ruining the positive vibes he has passed along.
The story is constructed as a mixture of satire and rhetoric, including the guru's off-the-cuff meditation sessions and dispensations of advice that his disciples eagerly embrace. They speak of Kumaré's mastery without ever questioning his credentials. Interviews with Kumaré devotees peppered throughout the movie show the intense convictions they take from his teachings, raising the question of whether the true identity of the guru actually makes a difference.
Cautious to avoid mean-spirited jabs at his subjects, Gandhi rarely condescends to them or the audience, inviting hearty debate once the credits roll. This is a sneak preview of the SXSW-acclaimed film ahead of its theatrical release.
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5 members of Penn State Berks community chosen for Faces of Penn State campaign
SPRING TWP., Pa. - Five members of the Penn State Berks campus community have been selected to be part of the university's "Faces of Penn State" campaign.
David Aurentz, Gregory F. Flemming, Amanda González-Ortiz, C. Preston Scoboria and Jeff Wike have made unique contributions to improving the world through their teaching, research and community outreach, school officials said.
The campaign, launched in September 2012, celebrates members of the Penn State community that embody the university's values of teaching, research and service.
The "Faces of Penn State" represents students, faculty, staff, administrators, alumni and local community members whose collective accomplishments and achievements better their communities and the world, officials said.
David Aurentz, an associate professor of chemistry at Penn State Berks, teaches a range of courses from first-year seminar and introductory chemistry to laboratory and organic chemistry.
Outside of the classroom, Aurentz advises life science and biology majors, mentors undergraduate teaching assistants and conducts research in nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy, officials said.
Gregory Flemming, a retired IBM executive, was involved in the development and roll-out of the first massed-produced commercial computer, IBM System 360, early in his career.
Flemming is a member of the Penn State Berks advisory board, the industrial advisory board, and the advisory council for entrepreneurship. Awarded a Penn State Alumni Fellow Award in 2011, Flemming was instrumental in establishing the Learning Factory and the engineering entrepreneurship minor at Penn State Berks.
Amanda González-Ortiz, a Penn State Berks senior security and risk analysis major, who has served as president, secretary and treasurer for the Latino Unity Club, helping to raise money to provide local Latino students with an award that would help them with their college expenses.
González-Ortiz has also served as fundraising chairwoman for THON and was selected as a dancer in THON 2013. She served as a mentor at 13th & Union Elementary School in Reading, a student leader for the "Be A Penn Stater for a Day" program, and a multicultural and a peer mentor. She also traveled to Costa Rica and Belize to help develop long-term resources as part of the Berks Alternative Spring Break Program.
After earning his master's in physics from Penn State, C. Preston Scoboria taught physics and math at Penn State McKeesport for two years and then at Penn State Berks for 35 years.
His five children all grew up to be Penn State graduates. Now retired, Scoboria hopes his 10 grandchildren will become the next generation of Nittany Lions.
Jeff Wike, supervisor of electrical labs at Penn State Berks, was instrumental in the design and layout of the new Gaige Technology and Business Innovation Building on the Berks campus. Wike is also one of the lead organizers for Penn State Berks' annual celebration of Engineers Week, an annual event that gives students opportunities to network with prospective employers in a relaxed environment.
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I've been attending the Harvesters' Luncheon and Fashion Show benefiting Second Harvest Food Bank of Orange County for all of its 21 years, and I can't remember a fashion presentation that showed so many beautiful, engaging fashions as the latest one. Held at the Segerstrom Center for the Arts, 380 guests enjoyed a jam-packed silent auction champagne reception in a tent alongside the Renee and Henry Segerstrom Concert Hall followed by the dazzling New York-style runway fashion show in Samueli Theater.
I have to say the fashion extravaganza, presented and underwritten by South Coast Plaza, was overwhelmed by fashions from the French fashion design houses, Dior and Lanvin. Some of the looks took me back to the '50s and '60s, when elegance personified by Audrey Hepburn and Grace Kelly reigned supreme. I easily envisioned Hepburn in the classic black strapless Lanvin cocktail dress with its billowing mid-calf skirt as well as the luxury label's horizontally tiered ivory chiffon blouse and black velvet pencil skirt with three-quarter-length leather gloves (the icing on the cake!). Kelly could easily have worn the Dior ivory satin cape top and asymmetrical black velvet skirt. All three looks took your breath away (see photos)! Other highlights included beautiful neutral prints from Roberto Cavalli, Chloe and Marni as well as showstopper black and white solids with touches of fur from Salvatore Ferragamo, Max Mara and Fendi. It was left to Versace to show a stunning yellow coat, Gucci, a blue, super-sexy satin dress, and Valentino, with the most elegant evening gown I've seen in a long time in red satin.
Event co-chairs Lori Anderson and Julia Post welcomed everyone to the fashion show and thanked their committee, in particular, underwriting chair Melissa Knode, silent auction chairs Kristie Caggiano and Susan Croul, and Joni Brice, who was responsible for the heartwarming Second Harvest Food Bank video. South Coast Plaza's Director of Community Relations Kathryn Cenci was also acknowledged for her ongoing role as fashion show liaison, as was the entire Segerstrom family for their continuing support. James Cueva of Jaeger-LeCoultre was given a nod for sponsoring the Roederer Champagne reception and silent auction, as well as featuring their luxury timepieces on professional models wearing Brioni and Wolford fashions.
Following the fashion presentation, guests retired to the concert hall's foyer for a tasty lunch catered by Patina and a much-anticipated opportunity prize drawing. The prizes included a Jaeger-LeCoultre Ladies Grand Reverso timepiece, a Saint Laurent Small Sac de Jour Carryall (see photo) and a South Coast Plaza $1,000 gift certificate, one-year valet parking pass and five-course chef's tasting dinner with wine pairings for six guests at Charlie Palmer at Bloomingdale's. Guests were delighted with the guest favor, a fabulous black, quilted tote, courtesy of South Coast Plaza.
The festive fundraiser brought in impressive net proceeds of $455,000, which were targeted for the nonprofit's mission of eliminating hunger in Orange County. The Food Bank feeds more than 240,000 people per month through 470 member agencies.
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State Sen. Jane Nelson (R-Flower Mound) put it simply Wednesday, speaking to a group of reporters at a news conference in Austin: "It is infuriating to hear of the kind of problems that are taking place... problems that are particularly serious in Medicaid dental, orthodontia and transportation for Medicaid patients," she said.
For the past two years, News 8 has been investigating the Texas Medicaid Dental program and hundreds of millions of dollars the state has spent on orthodontics under Medicaid.
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People travel from all over the globe to witness Vermont's fall colors. It's not uncommon for inns and hotels to fill up as much as a year in advance. But, even during "peak" foliage season, there are always rooms in Vermont.
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It's been a busy fall here are the results of our elk hunts in Arizona. Didn't do as well as expected but still had a lot of fun and took some bulls. The bulls were bugling like crazy the first three days of the 14 day hunt. We called in several 330-360 bulls but the hunters passed on them. After the third day the bulls quit bugling and we had to sit waterholes and wallows. They wished they would have taken the 330-360 bulls. Like I've always said if they are good enough to take on last day they're good enough to take on the first day. All in all only one hunter went without filling their tag.
we did call this bull using some mouth calls you all may have heard of Dead End Game Calls. Tried them for the first time and like them a lot along with his scent eliminators.
we took this bull sitting a waterhole
This is a very nice 387 bull a guy we met up with while hunting. he took this on the third day and we spent the rest of the day helping him pack this elk out.
I helped this young man take this cow elk on a Juniors hunt as you can see by the picture he was very pleased with his first ever big game animal. this was my most satisfying hunt of all the hunts.


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I just read a thing on theforce.net regarding the possible appearance of Qui-Gon in E2 and also about Qui-Gon's "non-disappearing act".
Uncle George says we will understand why this happened and is linked to Obi-Wan's statement about how if Vader struck him down he would become more powerful than Vader could ever imagine.
WHAT IF... Qui-Gon gave a "piece of himself" to Obi-Wan the same way Spock did the mind meld thing with McCoy just before he scarificed himself in ST2: TWoK? So now Obi-Wan will embody the spirit of Qui-Gon and it would be as if TWO spirits were acting as one.
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Kevin Scott has some great ideas.
What he doesn't have is a clue.
Scott is an independent candidate for governor, which could lead reasonable people (not me, but other reasonable people) to conclude he's a crank. He probably isn't, but somehow that notion lingers on.
Scott showed up on my doorstep recently with a six-pack of beer and the weird belief that if he could convince me he'd make a terrific governor, that would enhance his chances of getting elected.
I tried to give him a reality check. "You understand that I mostly insult candidates, right?" I said. "Sensible politicians avoid me like I was DEET and they were black flies."
"Yeah," Scott said, "several people warned me that I was crazy to go see you."
Good to get that on the record.
Scott, 42, is a Maine native who lives in Andover, where he's served on the water district board, the planning board, and twice as town-meeting moderator — all obvious stepping stones to higher office. He owns a business called Recruiting Resour-es International, which does some incomprehensible thing involving locating engineers for high-tech companies. He thinks he can win the Blaine House on a monthly campaign budget of $20,000.
Fellow independent Eliot Cutler of Cape Elizabeth spends more than that every 30 days on hair-care products.
Scott describes himself as socially liberal and fiscally conservative, but stresses that his real political persuasion is as a consensus builder. On his Web site, he promises he has "a genuine desire to limit the intrusion of government into our everyday lives."
Of course, everybody running for governor says that. Except Democrat Libby Mitchell. What's Scott got to offer that's different and — unlike many offbeat independent candidates — doesn't involve luring space aliens to Maine and stealing the advanced technology from their flying saucers?
Strangely enough, he has some ideas, a few of which might even work. Such as:
The 32-hour week. Whenever there's a shutdown day, most of state government operates on a 32-hour week. The loss of eight hours from the work schedule doesn't seem to have had a major impact on the delivery of vital public services, so maybe cutting back one day every week wouldn't make much difference.
Scott would offer current state employees the option of working four days. Those accepting the deal would get the same benefits they do now, but would take a 20 percent pay cut. In effect, they'd have an unpaid shutdown day every week, instead of 10 times a year. Depending on how many workers accepted the deal, that would save a few bucks.
But here's the interesting part. Scott would change the rules for most new hires, setting their work weeks and benefits at 32 hours. The shorter weeks wouldn't be possible everywhere and some of the slack in vital areas would have to be made up by additional hiring, but it's possible personnel costs could be significantly reduced in future budgets.
Like I said, the guy has some great ideas. But here's the clueless part.
The state-employee unions would never agree to anything like that. When asked about that obstacle, Scott insisted he could overcome it employing the consensus-building skills he uses on the Andover Water District board.
Here's another Scott brainstorm: Put state economic-development officials on commission. If they lure an out-of-state company to Maine, they get big bucks. If they don't, they get a tiny base salary.
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Steve Silberman's tribute to Jerry Garcia, 1942-1995
Skeleton Key: A Dictionary for Deadheads is 400 pages of lore, history, interviews, and thoughts on the Meaning of It All, from what guitarist Jerry Garcia calls "the Grateful Dead outback" - the diverse global community that is nourished by the music of the Grateful Dead and the shared experience of Dead shows.
Skeleton Key is a labor of love and "deadication" by Deadheads David Shenk and Steve Silberman, published by Doubleday/Main Street Books in 1994. Skeleton Key celebrates the magic, humor, and significance of the Deadhead community, while it investigates the history of the Long Strange Trip - from the days of be-bop jazz and the Beat Generation writers whose literary adventures inspired many Deadheads' own on-the-road journeys, to now, when Deadheads swap tapes and tales around the virtual campfires of Deadhead cyberspace.
1995 marks the 30th year of the Dead's experiment in improvisational telepathy. Skeleton Key is the first detailed road map of the culture and lifeways of Deadheads, featuring interviews with hundreds of fans and family, including Elvis Costello and Bill Walton, and thoughts on the music and community by people like Dead lyricist Robert Hunter, mythographer Joseph Campbell, and Grateful Dead Hour host David Gans.
Skeleton Key features a foreword by John Perry Barlow, Dead lyricist and co-founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation. The psychedelic lettering on the cover is by Alton Kelley, one of the original San Francisco poster artists, who also designed the covers for the Dead albums American Beauty and Europe '72. The icon on the cover of Skeleton Key is a 200-year-old Tibetan thangka used for meditation, of skeletons dancing in a cloud of fire, an image of enlightened consciousness awakening even in the midst of death.
We hope that whether you are a committed Deadhead, or just a curious Websurfer, you'll poke around this site and get a taste of the beauty, joy, humor, and mystery of Deadhead life. Feel free to pop on a tape and make yourself comfortable as the first notes sing your blues away, and you enter the Skeleton Zone...
A Word from the Authors
Since the publication of Skeleton Key last fall, Steve and I have been overwhelmed and overjoyed by the nice reviews from fellow Deadheads and from the press. To me, the best compliments have been along the lines of, "I can't wait to show this to my Pop - now maybe he'll understand!" I wanted to help articulate why we all love this music so much, and report to the world about the generous spirit of the community which has formed around it. If you haven't yet, I hope you'll get a chance to check out the entire book sometime soon. We'd love to hear what you think. Drop us a line at firstname.lastname@example.com.
Howdy folks! After spending 20 years of my life dancing happily in the Phil Zone at Dead shows, I'm deeply thankful I was given the chance to offer something back to the community which has given me more joy and meaning than any other: a deep picture of our extended family. I hope you enjoy it, and you may learn a few things along the way, whether you're an old-time tourhead or a newbie who just got on the bus. Be well. See you in the Zone!
- Steve
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Hey Now, WebHeads! Welcome to the Skeleton Zone.
Some of the Nice Things Folks Have Been Saying About Skeleton Key:
"A modern day Joycean epiphany...colorful, witty and persuasive...One can't help but be lulled into the feeling that if you're not a Deadhead, you're missing out on a good time."
--Bob Kelly, Wired
"Replete with a healthy sense of humor and an obvious love for its subject...the mix of concrete and the absurd reminds you of the Dead's music itself."
--Steve Futterman, Rolling Stone
"This indispensable guide to all things Grateful Dead-related is the only dictionary you can laugh your way straight -- or not so straight -- through from beginning to end."
--Matt Groening, creator of "The Simpsons" and Life in Hell
"One of America's great underrated wonders, the Grateful Dead reflect everything that is glorious, tawdry, and strange about this land of ours. Skeleton Key is an elegantly written, one-size-fits-all passport to Deadhead culture's rich, weird pageantry."
--Richard Gehr, Village Voice
"A patchwork portrait of the Grateful Dead aesthetic....This gold mine of history and commentary will appeal to even the most seasoned Deadheads."
--Al Kemp, Wilmington News Journal
"An informative and pleasurable read for any neophyte fan...[and] a must for the Dead freak who can't get enough."
--Brett Pauly, Los Angeles Daily News
"Indispensable...captures the essence of the Grateful Dead experience, both enriching it for experienced Deadheads and explaining it for 'newbies.'"
--Gersh Kuntzman, New York Post
"Loaded with more jargon, humorous slang terms, anecdotes and minutiae than you can shake a kind veggie burrito at! ...this book is way entertaining."
--Terrapin Times
"The Key to understanding our subculture...truly the Rosetta Stone of the Deadhead scene."
--Mike Maynard, Unbroken Chain
"Not just the best book at what it does, it is the only book that does what it does.... This book has left trails of multi hued memories alive and kickin' in my head.... Even the PICKIEST PICKY DEADHEADS will approve of Skeleton Key.... Skeleton Key not only passes the acid test, it defines it."
--Blair Jackson on "Skeleton Key"
from the '94 Year in Review feature in Dupree's Diamond News #30, Winter '94
From American Beauty to the Zone: American Beauty
Album #6, released in November, 1970. David Grisman plays mandolin on "Ripple" and "Friend Of The Devil".
Robert Hunter, lyricist, on American Beauty:
"American Beauty shows the GD playing, singing and songwriting skills in full stride. We had the confidence of a successful record ( Workingman's Dead) behind us, plus a shared sense of direction that was in tune with the times. The Band, The Byrds, Poco, CSNY & Dylan were all exploring traditional music augmented by the power of rock & roll. Psychedelia had had its moment (marking the GD forever in the public perception) and we were continuing to evolve what we believed to be the logical next step in American music, hence the title.
There is an underlying tone of sadness to American Beauty (Phil's father had just passed away, Jerry's mother was dying in the hospital as the result of an auto accident) reflected in the colors of such tunes as "Box Of Rain," "Brokedown Palace," "Attics of My Life" and "Ripple." On the up side, "Sugar Magnolia/Sunshine Daydream" reaffirmed the important business of just getting stupid and being in love, while "Truckin'" announced, as early as 1970, what a long, strange trip it already seemed to have been. This didn't refer only to the GD, but to the ten years of bluegrass, old timey & jug band configurations leading up to the rock & roll departure. Grateful Dead Live '71 , Europe '72 & the Garcia solo release (also '72) staked out the GD's musical territory in a definitive way. It wouldn't be until 1975 and Blues for Allah that we would break with that feeling and extend the territory into less definable musical spaces, neither psychedelic nor tradition-based. This amorphous state of transition lasted until 1985, when In the Dark once again found us in command of our direction in a way comprehensible to the public.
American Beauty remains the favorite studio record of many fans and members of the band, mustering, as it does, all the resources at our command in a futile but game response to the rising tide of commercially safe music which had already begun a counter mission to recover its monopoly of the American airwaves and record racks in the '70's."
Cherry Garcia
Ben & Jerry's salute to the Great One: a designer ice cream, infused with flakes of dark chocolate and bing cherry slivers soaked in amaretto, which made its debut in February, '87.
"At least they didn't name a motor oil after me," Garcia is reported to have quipped when sent a sample to taste. Half of his royalties go to the band's in house charitable group, the Rex Foundation.
"Nothing really rhymed with 'Grateful' or 'Dead,' explains Jane Williamson MacDonald, the 100-show veteran who came up with the idea in '84, in a Ben & Jerry's store on Exchange Street in Portland, Maine. "So I said, 'For me, Garcia is the heart of the band,' and within 15 seconds, out popped 'Cherry Garcia.' We wrote it down and laughed hysterically for ten minutes, and then put it up on the suggestion board." As luck wouldn't have it, that store burned down soon afterwards, the idea literally going up in smoke.
"So I sent them a postcard," MacDonald says. "But I didn't sign it. I just put a heart at the end. It was a political postcard that's what Ben liked most about it. It was a drawing of Ronald Reagan as 'Ronnie Reggae,' with dreadlocks; it said, 'Fire up the Sky,' and there were missiles exploding everywhere."
At the behest of a friend, MacDonald phoned Ben & Jerry's headquarters a few months after the flavor came out to identify herself. "I told her who I was, and she said, 'Wait a minute, could you say that again?" I started to repeat myself, but before I finished, she put her hand over the phone and started screaming, 'I found her! I found her!' She went wild. In June, I was the guest of honor at their annual shareholders' meeting. They sent us shirts and plane tickets. I got a year's worth of ice cream. You know how Andy Warhol said everybody gets their 15 minute of fame? I've had way over 15 minutes. This has been one of the most hysterical things I've ever experienced in my life."
In 1988, Cindy Scott, Arts Editor for the California Aggie at the University of California at Davis, took the cue and ran with it, conjuring up "Eyes Cream of the World," a fantasy ice cream parlor with Dead flavors only. Some of her flavors:
Touch of Grape ò Blackberry Peter ò Sugar Mango ò Jack Strawberry ò In the Mint Chip Hour ò He's Gone Bananas ò Fudge Ripple ò Wharf Raspberry ò Gimme Some Lemon ò Looks Like Rainbow (also available as Box of Rainbow) ò Rocky Road to Unlimited Devotion ò Beat it On Down the Lime ò China Cat Sundae ò Mocha Stack Lightning ò Amaretto Getaway ò Might as Watermelon ò U.S. Blueberry ò Mexicali Blueberry ò Minglewood Blueberry ò Walkin' Blueberry ò Dupree's Diamond Blueberry ò Stella Blueberry
Scott also suggests some flavors that might not go over too well in the parking lot, such as Jack A Roe (a caviar swirl), Stagger Beet, Cucumberland Blues, Friend of the Deviled Egg, and Uncle John's Clam. Says Scott, "there'd be a choice of Casey Cones, Sugaree, Throwin' Cones, or The Other Cone. Row Jimmies optional."
False Jerries
Garcia look alikes who catch Heads' eyes at shows. Hair color and weight can be used to date faux Garcias to a specific vintage. "Did you see that guy? He looked a lot like Jerry the '82 Jerry."
On the Bus
The moment that you realize you are a Deadhead is sometimes called "getting on the bus." "I got on the bus after that Fox show in '77, and started touring heavily." (A loss of interest is sometimes described as "getting off the bus.")
Most Deadheads recognize the phrase from Weir's lyric to "The Other One," "The bus came by, and I got on, that's when it all began with Cowboy Neal at the wheel of a bus to Never Ever Land." "The bus" was the Merry Pranksters' "Furthur," a renovated and customized 1939 International Harvester, bought by Kesey in the spring of 1964 for the Pranksters' road trip to the New York World's Fair, driven by "Cowboy" Neal Cassady [link to Cassady page at Literary Kicks site].
The bus became a countercultural icon after the publication of Tom Wolfe's The Electric Kool Aid Acid Test. According to Wolfe, Kesey first uttered the phrase on the way to Houston, Texas, as he struggled for an ironic declaration of policy about what might happen to Pranksters who accidentally got left behind along the way. "There are going to be times when we can't wait for somebody," Kesey announced. "Now, you're either on the bus or off the bus. If you're on the bus, and you get left behind, then you'll find it again. If you're off the bus in the first place then it won't make a damn."
Deadheads have enlarged on Kesey's declaration, so that the words mean more than being on a particular bus, and more than being a Deadhead. The phrase has become a metaphor for having had a particular insight, a knowledge transmitted through the music, the experience of shows, the psychedelics, and the community.
"Getting on the bus," says longtime Head Alan Mande, "means crossing the perceptual threshold, as in Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking Glass and Joseph Campbell's Hero With A Thousand Faces. 'The bus came by and I got on' is a freeze frame of the flashpoint where Grateful Dead music triggers a psychic/spiritual awakening 'the kind of awakening the great religions first intended,' as Campbell said."
Phil Bombs
Very low notes and chords played on bass by Lesh that can literally cause floorboards and seats to tremble. "When Phil hits that note that drives a sound wave through your body," explains Tom Bellanca, "that's a bomb." Heads who enjoy being especially close to the speakers often articulate this experience in ways along the lines of Nethead Galen Watts, who speaks of "feeling Phil in your legs" and "sensing Bobby in yer chest." See Deafheads, Phil Zone.
Rock Med
Short for "Rock Medicine," the mobile emergency care clinic which has been providing valuable medical care at Dead shows and other West Coast rock concerts, community events and festivals for 20 years. "We're like the Deadheads' HMO," says Rock Med's Director, Glenn "Raz" Raswyck. The goal of Rock Med, as stated by founding director Skip Gay, is to "take care of the individual, and return him to his friends or family," and to avoid "the necessity of either hospitalization or getting involved with the law." All of the doctors, nurses, paramedics and staff at Rock Med outside of the director contribute their expertise for no pay.
Rock Med was founded in 1972 by folks at the Haight Ashbury Free Clinic, at the behest of Bill Graham, who had seen too many medical needs at Woodstock, and elsewhere, go untreated. "Bill knew that people were going to do what they wanted to do, and you'd better be prepared for it," explains Raswyck. "He felt a moral obligation to be helpful, but also non judgmental. At the same time, Bill wanted to put in a safety net, before Heads wound up in local hospitals or jails. As a businessman, he knew when the jails started filling up, officials would start saying, 'You can't do this anymore.'"
On average, Raswyck says, Rock Med cares for 70 or 80 Heads per show, 60 of whom are there for minor matters - cut feet, heat exhaustion, headaches, and so on but one of Rock Med's areas of expertise is in helping Heads navigate difficult trips "Intense Psychedelic Reactions." The basic tenets of Rock Med style "talkdown" are, says Raswyck: "Number one, 'You're OK.' Number two, 'You're in a safe place.' And number three, 'No, we're not going to tell your mom.'" The volunteers are most interested in preventing needlessly dire situations from occurring in the first place. Their brochure advises all Heads to eat nutritiously before shows, and to make sure to drink plenty of non sugary, non alcoholic liquids during their journey. And try not to overindulge. "Abuse," says Raswyck, "gives fun a bad name."
ò Dugout --The first aid station located close to the main hall.
ò Field Teams -- Medics in uniform visibly circulating through the crowd so that they can be flagged down if necessary.
ò The Pit Crew -- Three-person medic team positioned on the floor near each side of the stage, available for quick aid to overheated or hyperventilating Heads.
ò Space Station -- The intake room where talkdown happens.
ò Talkdown -- Assistance for Heads having difficulty navigating in psychedelic space. "The art of talkdown," explains Steve Anderson in the Rock Med Training Guide, "is the interplay of knowledge, intuition and experience of the guide, varying with individuals, circumstances, substances, and resources available. A tripper is an Id with feet. He has no rules (Superego) or reason (Ego). He is his own universe. We become the rules, and provide an 'alternative ego' until those functions of his character can reassert their own control."
One style of what writer Shan Sutton calls Deadheads' "bodily conversation with the music" -- freeform gestures involving gentle bending of the knees, swaying of the arms, and rocking of the head, combined with expressive movements of the hands.
Spacedancing is Heads' way of participating in the jam. It may appear to an outsider to be "formless," but close observation reveals that most Heads are responding to subtle gestures in the music with equally subtle gestures. Heads will spacedance anywhere -- even at concerts by other bands.
"It is very much like the loose jointed bowing and swaying one sees in orthodox Jewish synagogues," suggests Gary Greenberg, "amongst the men who are 'dovening' or praying. One rabbi taught that 'As the soul journeys in the higher realms, it influences the body to make gestures of an entirely uncontrived nature.' " The Hasidim believed that this swaying movement enabled a man to put the whole of himself into his worship, and likened it to a kind of lovemaking with the Divine.
"I think one of the ways to get at what the Dead do is to see them as taking a song and generating sparks with it, one or two of which they then breathe into their own kind of fire. When they are successful, they draw out a moment of creation, the moment that animates all of human action, but which is usually ephemeral and invisible. At those moments, they play the bones of the song, of each other, and of everyone involved. We put the whole of ourselves into our worship, and we sway."
The Zone
The state of being to which band members and the audience "travel" together when the music is at its most intense, exploratory and collective.
Because Dead music is improvised music, the moment the gate to the zone swings open -- when the "rusty strings" are dusted off and shine always comes as a moment of surprise, of something made new. As Hart says, "Once in ...
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