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Double X Extra: A monomer is a building block (mono = one) and a polymer is a chain of monomers. With a few dozen monomers or building blocks, we get millions of different polymers. That may sound nutty until you think of the infinity of values that can be built using only the numbers 0 through 9 as building blocks or the intricate programming that is done using only a binary code of zeros and ones in different combinations.
Double X Extra: The specific reaction that hooks one monomer to another in a covalent bond is called dehydration synthesis because in making the bond–synthesizing the larger molecule–a molecule of water is removed (dehydration). The reverse is hydrolysis (hydro = water; lysis = breaking), which breaks the covalent bond by the addition of a molecule of water.
Double X Extra: We call a fatty acid a fatty acid because it's got a carboxylic acid attached to a fatty tail. A triglyceride consists of three of these fatty acids attached to a molecule called glycerol. Our dietary fat primarily consists of these triglycerides.
Double X Extra: A triglyceride can have up to three different fatty acids attached to it. Canola oil, for example, consists primarily of oleic acid, linoleic acid, and linolenic acid, all of which are unsaturated fatty acids with 18 carbons in their chains.
Double X Extra: A hormone is a blood-borne signaling molecule. It can be lipid based, like testosterone, or short protein, like insulin.
Biohazard!The names associated with nucleic acids can be confusing because they all start with nucle-. It may seem obvious or easy now, but a brain freeze on a test could mix you up. You need to fix in your mind that the shorter term (10 letters, four syllables), nucleotide, refers to the smaller molecule, the three-part building block. The longer term (12 characters, including the space, and five syllables), nucleic acid, which is inherent in the names DNA and RNA, designates the big, long molecule.
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|In 1995, the majestic spiral galaxy NGC 4414 was imaged by the Hubble Space Telescope as part of the HST Key Project on the Extragalactic Distance Scale. An international team of astronomers, led by Dr. Wendy Freedman of the Observatories of the Carnegie Institution of Washington, observed this galaxy on 13 different occasions over the course of two months.
|Dr. Heidi Hammel
Heidi Hammel is known as an excellent science communicator, researcher, andleader. She earned her B.S. from Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Ph.D. from the University of Hawaii in the 1980s. At NASA she led the imaging team of the Voyager 2's encounter with Neptune and became known for her science communication for it. She returned to MIT as a scientist for nearly a decade. Among her honors, she has received Vladimir Karpetoff Award , Klumpke-Roberts Award, and the Carl Sagan Medal. She is currently at the Space Science Institute with a research focused on ground- and space-based studies of Uranus and Neptune.
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The National Academy of Sciences is composed of select scientists who are leaders in their fields.
The National Medal of Science is a presidential award given to physical, biological, mathematical, or engineering scientists who have contributed outstanding knowledge to their field.
The Gold Medal of the Royal Astronomical Society is the society's highest honor given in astronomy
American Astronautical Society's William Randolf Lovelace II Award recognizes outstanding contributions to space science.
The Women in Aerospace's Lifetime Achievement Award is given for contributions to aerospace science over a career spanning 25 years.
The Annie Jump Cannon Award is given for outstanding research a doctoral student in astronomy with promise of future excellence.
The Mademoiselle Merit Award was presented annually to young women showing the promise of great achievement.
The Benjamin Apthorp Gould Prize is given in recognition of scientific accomplishments by an American citizen.
The NASA Special Award is given for exceptional work.
The MacArthur "Genius" Award is given to those who show exception merit and promise in creative work.
The James Craig Watson Award is given for contributions in astronomy.
The Gruber Cosmology Prize is given for fundamental advances in our understanding by a scientists.
The Heineman Prize is given for outstanding work in the field of astrophysics.
The NASA Group Achievement Award is given for accomplishment that advances NASA mission.
The Harvard Centennial Medal is given to graduates of Harvard who have contributed to society upon graduation.
The Bower Award is given for achievement in science.
The Vladimir Karapetoff Award is given for outstanding technical achievement.
The Klumpke-Roberts Award is given for enhancing public understanding and appreciation of astronomy.
The Carl Sagan Medal is awarded for outstanding communication to the public about planetary science.
The Maria Goeppert-Mayer Award is given to a female physicist for outstanding achievement in her early career.
The Albert A. Michelson Prize is given for technical and professional achievement.
The Beatrice Tinsley Prize is given for outstanding research contribution to astronomy or astrophysics.
The Herschel Medal is given for investigations of outstanding merit in astrophysics.
The Magellanic Premium Medal is awarded for a discovery or invention advancing navigation or astronomy.
Much of the information for this post came from the book Notable Women in the Physical Sciences: A Biographical Dictionary edited by Benjamin F. Shearer and Barbara S. Shearer.
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...and their barrage of same-sex-marriage (SSM) stories and how they are portraying the church in all of this? It just seems like the socialists in this country are in complete command of every facet of life these days, and the Constitution, morals, and anything not based on socialistic and statist thinking is to be damned.
It's hard to even find a writer that isn't in the MSP grasp. But I did find one soul willing to write what I believe in. Are there any more? Or do the Atheists reign supreme on Potus Place?
The Argument For Marriage Equality Is Not A Conservative One
By: Dana Loesch (Diary) | March 26th, 2013
This week the Supreme Court is hearing oral arguments on same Californias Prop 8 and a section of the Defense of Marriage Act which deals with benefits for same sex couples. Same sex marriage is front and center once again and Ive heard some interesting arguments on how supporting government involvement in defining marriage is a conservative ideal. During the Sunday morning talk show circuit, former Bush communications adviser took the moderate position emerging within the GOP against American Values Gary Bauer. Nicole Wallace tried to argue that supporting marriage equality is a conservative position. No, it is not.
Ive never understood how anyone who spent the past four-plus years lamenting the size of government could then argue for its increase by inviting it into the discussion of marriage. We complain about government in health care, we complain about government in education, we complain about government regulating soft drink size, but suddenly some of us have no problem with more government in peoples relationships with one another. Marriage is a covenant between a man, woman, and God before God on His terms. It is a religious civil liberty, not a right granted by government. It should never have been regulated by government in the first place, and government shouldnt have an expanded reach in further regulating it now. There is no allowance constitutionally that invites our government to define the religious covenant of marriage.
Ive no issue with same sex couples entering into contractual agreements with each other or sharing benefits (the military decisions should be made by those with the credit of service day in and day out, not civilian advocacy groups). Isnt that the goal of this conflict? If so, to me, thats an issue separate from marriage. In suing over marriage itself one is demanding that God change His definition of the union between a man and a woman. If recognition of status, ease with other contractual obligations, and other issues are the issues, why the need to force people of faith to alter recognition of Gods Word on the matter? The people may bend as reeds to lawfare, but God will not. Frankly, I see no point in being on any side other than Gods on any matter, and God is more small government than any player in the scene.
In suing over marriage one is demanding that others modify their beliefs to accommodate another. Do not people of faith retain their First Amendment liberty of freedom of religion?
California voters in Prop 8 are awaiting to see if elections in their state matter. Advocacy groups vilified Mormons yet according to numerous local media reports based on exit polling data, black and latino communities provided key support in the passage of Prop 8. The left had a more difficult time vilifying these voting blocs because its harder to ask them for votes later. Despite democracy in our constitutional republic working as it should, voters were sued to have their votes in a taxpayer-paid-for election overturned. The gap in the door will widen for lawsuits if the goal of homogenization isnt realized. Prop 8 is just the beginning. Do you doubt?
Here are a few recent examples:
- Christian photographers Elane Photography in New Mexico were approached by a same sex couple looking to hire a wedding photographer. Elane Photography politely declined citing their Christian faith and were sued by the couple under the states anti-discriminatory laws, and won. In New Mexico you apparently have no right to your free expression and practice of faith any longer. (Read even more about this case here.)
- In Lexington, Kentucky, a t-shirt shop called Hands On Originals was approached by the Gay and Lesbian Services Organization about printing shirts for the group. The t-shirt company politely declined and even sought out quotes and gave the group referrals to other t-shirt printers along with comparable prices. They were promptly sued by the group under Lexingtons anti-discriminatory laws and forced to comply with a lengthy investigation. The citys power-drunk human rights commission said this:
Raymond Sexton, the executive director of the Human Rights Commission told Fox News that Hands On Originals will be required by law to participate in the investigation. We have subpoena power and have the backing of the law, he said. We are a law enforcement agency and people have to comply.
Leftist groups are trying to get the company evicted from their premises, the city now has school districts freezing their business with the privately owned company. Meanwhile, the owner of the company tried to defend his faith and decision in an op/ed in the paper.
- A Methodist church in New Jersey was sued for not offering its facility for use during same sex weddings. A judge ruled against them.
- A same sex couple from California sued a Hawaiian bed and breakfast privately owned by a Christian woman for not allowing them to rent a room.
A bed and breakfast in Alton privately owned by a Christian couple was sued when they would not host a same sex civil union ceremony.
Owners of a small, privately-owned inn in Vermont declined to host a same sex wedding reception due to their religious views and were sued.
An employee of Allstate insurance wrote an essay online disagreeing with same sex marriage and was reportedly fired from his job as a result.
- Catholic Charities was barred from assisting in adoptions in Massachusetts, Washington DC, and Illinois and excluded from future contracts because they declined to consider same sex couples. Sorry kids, but the agenda impresarios need to make an example.
There are even more examples, some listed on this page, some not, as they are numerous. Pastors in Canada are already facing lawsuits for simply preaching about marriage from the Bible. Tolerance is demanded of Christians but in this pluralistic society, little, if any, tolerance is afforded to Christian beliefs. Christians arent the antagonists here, but they do seem to have fewer rights than those engaging in lawfare to bring about forced acceptance.
Really, this isnt about gay rights. The left doesnt give a damn about gay rights. Remember, it was the left that instituted Dont Ask Dont Tell and it was a Republican group that led the charge to repeal it. The left hasnt done anything for the gay community except to offer it lip service and inaction. While leftist groups fight for marriage equality the Obama administration makes marriage an economic hit with horrible policy. You got bait and switched, leftists! No, the left cares nothing for gay rights, but theyll pretend to if they can use the bloc as a wedge to pry the populace from the influence of the church. Why? because its easier to convince people that their civil liberties fall under the dominion of man, of government, if the church is portrayed as inept and anachronistic. This is the entire goal. Once man, sinful, awful man controls your rights, your existence as an individual ends and your life as a statist serf begins.
So no, marriage equality is emphatically nota conservative value or tactic. Anything where the solution is an invitation for government intervention should be viewed with utmost suspicion.


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mofisto wrote:As for Dual CPU, that does speed up your editing, because while 1 cpu is working on the OS the other can work on the editing. On threaded OSes like Linux and what not, it can turn a 2hour render into 1 - 1.5 hour, a small improvement, but worth it is you are serious about editing.
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raph: May I ask what the point of all these computer-verified proof systems? I mean, yes, we all proved in Logic 101 that it is theoretically possible, but seriously, what's the point?
Let me first clarify some things.
Mathematicians do have mistakes in their proofs, many times. However, I seriously doubt such a system will actually help solving that problem. I can speak with some authority, having a little experience in writing papers, that writing a complete proof of a non-trivial statement would quickly become onerous, and more bugs would be made in the translation.
I have learned, and taught, advanced math. Teaching math is about giving intuition through proofs. Proofs written up as formal list of statements give no intuition, nor an idea of how to solve similar problems, which is what teaching mathematics is all about.
It is a nice toy. It is even fun to enter a few simple proofs. But, having done some formal proofs, my experience is that the novelty wears off and it becomes a mechanical boring process (and I like this stuff, basically!).
So, I think I've discounted "helping mathematicians", "improving math teaching" and "having fun" as possible motivations. Either my logic is wrong (pun not intended) or I have not listed all possible motivations: which is it?


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The Israel Calculus On Gaza
November 12, 2012 § 11 Comments
Israel has been dealing with a constant barrage of rockets and shelling from Gaza since last week, and despite Egyptian claims to have mediated a ceasefire yesterday, it has apparently had no effect as the rockets have continued unabated today. Bibi Netanyahu warned foreign ambassadors yesterday that Israel might have no choice but to launch a ground operation into Gaza, and the Israeli press is rife with speculation that Cast Lead redux is about to begin.
On the face of it this may seem like a risky move. A ground operation into Gaza is bound to lead to civilian casualties and international opprobrium, along with the inevitable resulting Israeli investigatory commission. Also factoring in is that this is the second day in a row that Israel has fired at Syria in response to Syrian shooting at Israeli positions in its attempt to hit rebel fighters – the same dynamic that has been occurring along the Turkish border. If Israel goes after Hamas and other terror groups in Gaza, the possibility always exists for Hizballah to seize on Israel's preoccupation in the south and launch its own rockets in the north, and between Palestinian armed groups in Gaza and Hizballah, it is the latter that is the far graver danger and more serious threat. Looming in the background of all of this is Iran, and how a large scale operation in Gaza might danger Israel's diplomatic efforts to keep the pressure on the regime in Tehran. And of course, with elections coming in January, Netanyahu might be loathe to undertake any big risks right now that will endanger his presumptive reelection, and any large operation into Gaza is undoubtedly a big risk.
Despite all this, unless Egypt is actually successful and the rockets stop in the next two or three days, I think we are going to see Israel go into Gaza with air strikes and ground forces. To begin with, Israel has never been hesitant to do what it must to establish deterrence against Hamas, and the IDF is probably concluding right now that any hint of deterrence it might have created following Cast Lead is gone. It is an open question as to whether such deterrence ever existed, but the rocket escalation leaves little doubt that Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and other armed groups in Gaza have zero qualms right now about targeting Israel civilians with rocket fire. No government can afford to let such attacks continue, and certainly the Israel government has not historically been shy about going after Hamas when it feels it is necessary.
The security angle is prominent, but there is a political angle as well. Netanyahu has been campaigning on security issues pretty much his entire political life, and the current campaign is no different. His focus on security is so strong that Kadima, in what can only be described as a last ditch effort amongst its death throes, has adopted as its campaign slogan "Bibi is endangering us" superimposed against a backdrop of a mushroom cloud. The irony of Netanyahu's hawkish public persona is that he has never presided over a large military operation during either of his two tenures as prime minister, but as risky as it may be to send ground forces into Gaza right now, he cannot afford to just sit on his hands. A man running for prime minister whose primary rationale for reelection is that only he is prepared to do what is necessary to keep Israel safe cannot sit idly by as rockets rain down on southern Israeli towns and have any hope of winning the election. From an electoral standpoint, I don't think Netanyahu has any choice but to respond with force and hope that the IDF is prepared for what it will encounter in the streets and warrens of Gaza City. If Netanyahu cannot deal with the threat emanating from his own backyard, he cannot credibly claim to be able to deal with the threat coming from Iran.
Compounding this situation is the fact that the other Israeli political parties are egging Netanyahu and Likud on. Kadima, Yisrael Beiteinu, Yesh Atid, and Habayit Hayehudi have all called for military operations hitting Hamas or the resumption of targeted assassinations of Hamas leaders, and even Labor has made a nebulous recommendation for "military and diplomatic pressure." The only significant party urging a ceasefire is Meretz. This means that the longer Netanyahu waits to move on Gaza, the longer he will have to face calls from political rivals urging immediate actions, and every day this goes on endangers Netanyahu's electoral prospects. It is one thing to take your time when the other parties are calling for calm, but quite another when elections are coming up and nearly every party across the political spectrum is calling for some form of action. As an aside, this also goes to show just how dead the peace camp is in Israel, and why Ehud Olmert's apparent plan to reenter politics and campaign on the basis of reaching a peace deal with the Palestinians is going to be a disastrous miscalculation (more on that later this week).
As I noted yesterday on twitter, I think Israeli military action has crossed the threshold of being a lot more likely than not. As historically risk-averse as he might be, Netanyahu is not going to just wait this out. Security necessity and political calculations are both moving in the same direction here, and I think that we are about to see a Cast Lead-type incursion.
P.S. If this does indeed happen, I am going to be a busy man given what it will do to Turkish-Israeli relations in light of Erdoğan's embrace of Hamas and imminent trip to Gaza.
§ 11 Responses to The Israel Calculus On Gaza
[…] With Israel's election season under way, Michael Koplow says Netanyahu is going to find it harder and harder to avoid hitting back at Gaza by air and on the ground. […]
[…] the potential implications of the decision to use more military force against Gaza (here and here). In this extra-long piece, I want to consider the bigger picture of Israeli policymaking, and […]
IMHO the Israelis might be better served by a drone campaign against specific targets rather than another ugly bloodbath in Gaza. It is my understanding that the Israelis have this capacity; if so their image would certainly suffer less than by another "Cast Lead" style operation.
Otherwise keep up the excellent work in presenting the most objective and informative analysis of Israel and Turkey that I can find. (I disagree with some of your perspectives, but not your facts or the quality of your analysis)
[…] still a source of consternation in Turkey. Just two days ago, Turkey analyst Michael Koplow worried about what an Israeli strike on Gaza would "do to Turkish-Israeli relations in light of […]
[…] focused its attention on the siege of Gaza and has prompted many (I think Michael Koplow's take on his blog Ottomans and Zionists was the best) to speculate about the likelihood of further […]
[…] on Monday I wrote that I thought Israel was likely to go into Gaza eventually with ground forces, and three days […]
[…] I analyzed the Israeli decision making calculus on Gaza on Monday, Zack Gold, who is an astute Middle East analyst and tweets from @ZLGold, rightly took me […]
[…] the right that mainstream foreign policy debates regarding the Palestinians today focus more upon deciding on appropriate means of violently confronting them rather than upon drafting terms of a peace […]
[…] a source of consternation in Turkey. Just two days ago, Turkey analyst Michael Koplow worried about what an Israeli strike on Gaza would "do to Turkish-Israeli relations in light of [Turkish […]
[…] the right that mainstream foreign policy debates regarding the Palestinians today focus more upon deciding on appropriate means of violently confronting them rather than upon drafting terms of a peace […]


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As movies continue to be transferred to Blu-ray, we'd like to suggest a few films that deserve everything that awesome platform has to offer. So here's a top 10 list of movies that would look great, sound great, and benefit from the extensive special features that Blu-ray discs provide. Keep in mind that this list is not in the order of how great each movie is, but rather how much each film would benefit from a Blu-ray upgrade.
Of course, not everyone owns a Blu-ray player, but that's changing quickly – if you love movies you really should find a way to get one. There is nothing on the home video market that beats its picture and sound quality, along with some exceptional bonus features not found on DVD (you do need at least a 42″ TV to really start seeing the difference, though). As of January of last year, Blu-ray had found its way into over 10.7 million homes since its June 2006 launch. And according to some studies, it will have a 74% market share by 2017.
Considering those numbers, it seems like a good time for this top 10 list. The following includes only films with no announced release date for a Blu-ray version, so for example you won't see the Alien franchise listed as it is set to be released later this year.
#10: Pulp Fiction
Many would argue this is Quentin Tarantino's finest work. With Jackie Brown and Pulp Fiction as the only two remaining Tarantino films waiting to make the transfer, it's safe to say this belongs on the list. The eccentric director is typically shy about his special features, but Inglourious Basterds came with a plethora of behind-the-scenes material and it's hard to imagine more of the same isn't waiting to be seen with Pulp Fiction.
The colors of the film have always been vibrant. Certain scenes, like the old-school diner, would look excellent with an upgrade. But frankly, the reason it belongs is for the quality of the story itself and the historic value of a truly beloved film.
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#9: Jaws
A lot of people seem to forget you don't actually see the shark until the third act of this Steven Spielberg masterpiece. In 1975, the robotic shark was an impressive piece of movie magic, but now it's hard to even watch it without cracking the slightest smirk. Yet that has nothing to do with why people love Jaws – the suspense of the inevitable is an aspect Spielberg did not create, but mastered in every way with the film.
What would make a Blu-ray release so great is the addition of numerous documentaries and behind-the-scenes interviews about the movie. If you've ever seen Easy Riders, Raging Bulls, you know the fascinating story behind the creation of Jaws and how close it drove Spielberg to the edge. The New England beach town focused in the movie is a good-looking one that could benefit from an upgrade. Most importantly, one of cinema's most recognizable themes would surely sound great mastered using the latest tech.
#8: Psycho
If there is a missing piece of the horror genre on Blu-ray shelves, it's got to be Psycho. The unforgettable house on the hill would certainly look even better with an upgraded version of the film. If there is one moment to see with the upgrade it is that shower scene: The shot of the drain with blood swirling into it, mixed with the rushing water, has stuck in viewers heads from day one.
If anything, it would be nice to see a Hitchcock release with some new interviews or special features with the man himself. Maybe we'll even get a chance to see him smile; a rare feat itself. But the master of suspense created one of the most memorable scenes within a film that is solid all the way through.
#7: Schindler's List
One of the most important films in history… One of Steven Spielberg's crowning achievements… One of the most beautifully shot films ever, Schindler's List deserves a Blu-ray in every way imaginable. It is one of the few films every living person should see, movie fan or not. Ironically enough, it is not the highest ranked Spielberg movie on this list, let alone of the films on this list made by Spielberg in 1993.
The Best Picture winner sports some shots that anybody would love to see on high-quality Blu-ray. [SPOILER AHEAD] For instance, the scene where Amon Goeth (Ralph Fiennes) wakes up, goes to the balcony, and begins shooting random prisoners from a distance is chilling, yet beautifully filmed. The little girl in red who becomes one of the film's most memorable moments would be a sight to behold on the home video platform. Accompanying the visuals is a perfectly fitting score by the legendary John Williams.
What I'd really like to see is an extensive collection of interviews and documentaries featuring Holocaust survivors, even if it means a second disc. Over the years we've seen Spielberg's affinity for their stories and if he's got any say in the matter, they will be prominently featured.
#6: Once Upon A Time In The West
I may get some hell for this, but Once Upon A Time In The West is my favorite Western by a long shot. In what could be considered the most beautifully shot film on this list, a Blu-ray transfer would be highly anticipated. Having said all that, the sound is a little on the Jekyll and Hyde side of things. While the Ennio Morricone score is epic and unforgettable, giving the character of Harmonica his mesmerizing quality, the character audio is constantly suspect. Some amazing one-liners are sprinkled throughout the film, but frequent misfires with the dubbing can cause some confusion.
If they really take their time with this upgrade, and even remaster the audio to time it up a little better (is that possible?), we could have one of the greatest Blu-ray transfers ever. But we should understand that is asking a lot, and just to see this on an HDTV via a Blu-ray disc would be a feat in itself. If you've ever seen The Searchers on Blu-ray you'll know just how capable films as aged as these can look in the Hi-Def format.
#5: Citizen Kane
Widely considered the best film of all time, it is kind of shocking this movie hasn't made its way onto Blu-ray yet. The Orson Welles masterpiece will turn 70 years old in May of 2011 – so if they get started soon, that would make for a great release date. Either way, a picture and sound upgrade of the 1941 Best Picture nominee is much deserved. Some interviews or bonus features would be a nice addition as well.
It would be nice to add a bonus disc honoring Welles. It has been 15 years since his passing and very little has been done to truly capture his greatness. Let's compile interviews, documentaries, and behind-the-scenes shots of the man at work. Honor one of the most hard-working men in Hollywood history.
#4: The Indiana Jones Trilogy
One of the best movie trilogies ever still has not made the Blu-ray jump – and go figure, it is another Spielberg work. The filmmaker finds his way onto this list four times. It would be nice of you to let this happen, Mr. Spielberg.
The transfer is inevitable and it's hard to imagine they didn't make it happen for the release of Indy 4. As bad as that movie was, I still love the franchise. Indiana Jones is one of the most beloved characters in cinema and deserves to look his best on a Blu-ray disc. The sound design was ahead of its time and one of the most iconic themes could handle an upgrade quite well. Let's hope we don't have to wait for an Indy 5 to see this trilogy on Blu-ray.
#3: Apocalypse Now
The most epic film production known to man. It ran into so many problems they made one of the most revered behind-the-scenes documentaries on any movie, Hearts of Darkness. Given what Blu-ray has to offer, wouldn't a redux release just be amazing? Give us everything the latest DVD had, which was quite a lot, and add some other features to it. There's no doubt director Francis Ford Coppola loves the camera. He's talked about Apocalypse Now on a number of occasions.
As a film itself, this is one of the more stunning of its time. Shooting on location gave it an aesthetic quality unlike many films we see today. The "Ride of the Valkyries" scene is still one of the most recognizable in movie history and the sky filled with helicopters would be mighty fine with improved picture quality. Just imagine the napalm explosion on Blu-ray. What I would look forward to most is the conversation between Col. Kurtz (Marlon Brando) and Capt. Willard (Martin Sheen).
#2: The Jurassic Park Trilogy
The first of the dinosaur trilogy is one of the most memorable films of its genre. Jurassic Park is the most deserving of the three to make the Blu-ray jump. The combination of sound and visuals was a sight to behold. The special effects and CGI have held up quite nicely and an upgrade to Blu-ray would serve its purpose even better.
With rumors of a new Jurassic Park trilogy constantly swirling, now is a great time to get to work. Set a release date to coincide with the new graphic novel and see where it goes. While JP2 and JP3 have their weak points, they round out a trilogy nicely and each add their own element. For instance, the raptors in the wheat fields of the second installment still holds a place in my heart. In the third one, they went back to the success of the first, similar to the pattern Indiana Jones weaved. While it is not perfect by any stretch, there is much to be enjoyed. All three provide exceptional sound design and visuals that will stick with you for years. For this reason alone, it deserves a big old Blu-ray box.
#1: The Star Wars Saga
This should be obvious. The one glaring absence in every Blu-ray collection is the Star Wars saga. One of the most iconic"hero's journey" stories put on film deserves this in every single way. And as much as people want to hate on Episodes 1-3, they are now an integral part of the Star Wars story and belong in a Blu-ray release just as much.
For such an advocate of technological advancements, George Lucas certainly is slow to giving his franchise the format treatment. Considering his affinity for making money off the franchise, it's mind-boggling it has taken this long to get the saga going in high definition for the home theater. The numbers I mentioned at the beginning of this article should be hanging on his mantle – and for once in a long time, Lucas doing something for money would actually be something people want: A Blu-ray Star Wars saga. And hey, if you don't mind, actually throw some legit behind-the-scenes pieces in this time.
That's our ten right there. Hopefully dates begin to pop up here and there, but one to keep your eye on will always be that Star Wars saga. It seems like an inevitable event, but when will it actually happen? Also, somebody needs to just sit Steven Spielberg down and get him on the Blu-ray page, because he is on this list far too many times.
What do you think? Did we miss anything? What would you change? Leave your comments below and let us know.
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Anders, your english is just fine. Glad to have you here on the Forum. Looking forward to your input, and a Norwegian perspective!
Wow! Quite a respons!
I myself is a game angler, and coud not agree more; fish frams is a threat to the environment they are kept in. They`re a plauge.
DH: Animal abuse was probobly a strong word to use, talking about C&R. I just wanted to remind you about the opposition, the radicals. The ones that mean C&R is animal abuse. Because some people think it is. Our opposition is growing. During last winter the government in Norway made a proposal to make c&r in put&take ponds illegal. I myself do not Think of it as animal abuse, but i am avare that many people don`t understand why we catch fish an then releas it, and that i have fun getting trout to take my dry fly, playing it and then releas it. What i am trying to say: I would not like it if somone sat a hook in my mout, played me and then relased me, just to do it al over....
It is sad that money is the only thing that matters. There is a great deal that could bee done to reduce damage done by fish farms, but that cost`s money. We would manage with out fish farms, but there is a great deal of money in it. (Beside oil, export of salmon (from fish farms) is a large income for Norway).
I just wish that someone could sodd the money, and think about the environment for once.
(Sorry if my english is bad. Crap english is better than norwegian, at least for you guys)
I guess I misread your question as "who cares the most" rather than "who cares more than C&R anglers." Regardless of which question is asked, the answer isn't one that can be definitivly answered -who's to say what constitutes caring? It certainly manifests itself differently in different people. I think most would agree that eco-terrorists actions are perverted though I don't think one could say they don't care.
In an attempt to anwer you directly, I'd say those that care more about fish are those who do something on the behalf of fish. These folks come from a wide range of groups, eg, tribes, commercial fisherman, conservation groups, scientists, and yes sport anglers too. People can debate what is best or even whether a certain practice is even good at all, but they're all doing something. By your own admission, the fraction of C&R anglers that actually do something is "shamelessly low." Given this, I'd say those that do something for fish care more. But who's to say? What does it mean to care in the first place?
I can show you a couple small tributaries where C&R anglers pursue steelhead in these parts. These are spawning areas and those anglers are pounding these poor fish on the redds. Many of them have guides. I'm sure many have seen the video of the infamous angler with the fly named after him pounding some poor fish with cast after cast until the fish finally is hooked. What a wonderful thing to teach anglers! (sarcasm intended).
Don't misunderstand me. I'm certainly pro C&R and think in balance we ahve a positive influence. My point is only that the vast majority of us don't do anything directly to aid the fish.
Feiger -my post was made with a brush about as broad as the Pacific. And most of it was made in my exasperation with the federal resource managers here who seem hell bent to expand the killing of small runs native steelhead in small streams. One of the leaders of that program here has been arrested twice for poaching and the last time a small stream here was closed to fishing due to a poor return, this steward was out there as soon trying to fill his cooler with sockeye as he got wind of the stream would be closed in two days -I'm definitely not referring to a faceless federal govt here. Of course I realize this individual is the exception. I just wish some people could be fired from the feds -something that seems impossible. As I said its aout power and politics, I don't see any way this particular program could be seen in a pro-fish light.
The driving issue for statehood for Alaska was to get local (state) management of fish and game. I remember my dad talking about how the King Crab in Kachemak Bay were wiped out in three seasons under federal management in the 50s. They still haven't recovered. I don't think we'll be seeing fish traps at the mouths of salmon streams like there used to be then, but the feds are wrestling control from the state through the subsistence issue. I hope for the best and do what I can, but it's discouraging at times.
I have no doubt you're working to do beneficial things as are most. Sorry if you got a little bit of paint from my overly broad brush.
OC - I suspect you may be on to something -certainly in part. Hopefully, someone will take a good objective look at your hypothesis to see for sure.
Deerhaawk - That comment was meant to sympathize with ya for being drug into this whole mess by Anders (where'd he go anyway?) and having me insinuate you're a hypocrite with my devil's advocate questions. Six bucks eh? You're definitely buying should we ever get the chance to meet and talk fish... Just no "hardhat beer" okay?
By the way, That's Salmon, not Slamon
You Know.....
Every time there is a thread like this, fish farm problems, pollution + fish, dams + fish, irrigation rites + fish, etc, etc. I am reminded of the old Native American tale, repeated for those who have not heard it before;
After the Great Spirit created Man, He gathered all the other Animals he had created together and said, "Look at this which I have created!" Then He turned to all the Animals and said, "Who among you will help sustain that which I have created"?... And the first one to step forward..... was Slamon!
Its time to return the favor!
And thats what It's all about.... for me and many many other like minded individuals here on the Forum, we are returning the favor, taking care of the resource that we have been entrusted with, so that generations in the future, when they look fondly at pictures of us in our "Haydays" as Anglers, they can visit the same Streams and Rivers that we walked, and the water will be clear, and when they pick up a fly rod and make that cast , the Fish will still be there!
Be passionate about your Sport
Take care of the resource
Pass on that passion and knowledge, just like those that bothered to pass it on to us.
SO easy , NOT rocket science
I was studying tonight for another storyline. I came across these stats:
Pre-European runs of Salmon on the Columbia River were on the order of 10-16 million fish, all Wild I might add. Runs in the Pugeot Sound were 4 - 6 times that number! Now barley 2 million fish return to the Columbia, with 70% being Hatchery fish. The Sound has seen a 90% drop in runs. Out of an estimated 500 species that once roamed the waters, 200 are gone, never to return. Many of the rest are in various stages of decline. (from Trout and Salmon of North America by Robert Behnke / Joseph Tomelleri) There are similar storys all around the world.
Anders, I know that you have been following this post. I hope that this gives you a better picture of us as a group, and of us as individuals. I invite you to "Help" the fish!
Pescaphile, EASY on that "Poor Ol' Deerhawk" stuff.....I got $6 bucks 'n change, and I aint that old.....yet!
Feiger, Juro, OC, Pete, Pescaphile, Anders; Thanks, we need more dialog like this
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Nice post!
Tragedy of the commons...
In natural resources economics, the plight of natural resources, publically owned such as wild (and hatchery) salmonids, is called the "tragedy of the commons." Everyone, and at the same time no one, owns them, and thus everyone, and no one, is a caretaker for them. What does that mean? When you ask the average "Joe" or "Jane" on the street, do you care about the plight of native/wild salmon, the majority, usually a strong majority, will say yes - they don't want them to go extinct, they want healthy runs for their children's children, etc. But when you ask them what THEY are doing for the health and long term longevity of those same fish - blank stare... "but they're not MY fish, I don't have a personal stake in their existence, that's somebody elses/the government/the fisherman/woman's responsibility..." Or "Saving the salmon and steelhead by removing the Columbia River dams would kill me w/ the increased cost of electricity - I can't have that! There must be another way (hatcheries any one???)".
It's human nature to fail to take action, or interest, until something affects you personally. Whether it be in the pocket book, your living/working conditions, or, as pretty much everyone who is a part of this forum, the ability to enjoy the natural world and all its parts, whether that be the mountain vistas, wild elk and deer, waterfowl, the wild fish in our streams, etc. Every significant human action, whether it be the union movement of labor against management, revolutions of citizens against tyrannic governments, or the long history of sportsman/women conservationists ponying up in $$ and sweat equity to challenge threats to the wild places and wild things we hold near and dear to our hearts - those actions came about because individuals, and groups of like-minded individuals, were adversely affected to the point that they needed to take action. The unfortunate thing about public resources, including our native fish, its seems that it takes the 10th or 11th hour to get enough people concerned to make a difference. That's not to say people weren't concerned earlier. There are many who were blowing the wistle on the travesty of what was happening to our wild salmon and steelhead stocks DECADES ago! But not enough people were personnally affected that resulted in effective action. The common example I come back to is waterfowl - it wasn't until the market gunning, loss of habitat, etc. that finally wiped waterfowl populations so low, that so many avid hunters finally stopped and took notice, that action in the form of federal laws and development of conservation organizations finally came about. I'm not terribly familiar with either species, but it seems to me similar things can be said about striped bass and redfish on the east coast. Certainly the same is being said for the west coast salmonids now. The actions and activities of concerned fisherman and women are louder now than at any time in the past 50 years. Let's hope its not to late... And, incidently, that's why its the hunters and fishermen/women that are the first to step up and take notice, and take action. We recongnize the direct effects first...
I aplaud folks like Deerhawk, who invest many hours of personal time, and many dollars, in "giving back" to a public resource, that at once he does, and doesn't own. I do the same, and have the opportunity to work with dozens of similarly minded folks volunteering to enhance wildlife habitat, at a great personal expense and sacrifice to themselves. All because they CARE....
In response to Pescaphile's comment about the Federal Government "not giving a damn", I have to take some exception to that remark. For two reasons - First, I am the federal government - as a federal employee of a large land management agency, I am the face and action of the Federal Government. And I stand shoulder to shoulder with some of the most active and passionate conservationists on this planet. People that live, breathe and sleep natural resources, including the wild salmon and steelhead all of us cherish. And these individuals do it because they care about the public's resources, and have a strong desire to provide the public with the resources that they desire. And given the current environment of general fed bashing that seems rather prevalant these days, I can speak from first hand experience that your pretty much have to love natural resources to put up with it!! And second - Not only am I the Federal Government, so are you! Every citizen of the United States of America is the Federal Government. YOU elect the congressmen and representatives and presidents. YOU pay your taxes that goes into (or DOESN'T go into) the programs that manage natural resources, dependent upon the elected officials YOU elected. YOU write/don't write your elected officials and tell them what you do and don't want from your natural resources. And through those avenues, YOU direct/don't direct the actions of the Federal Government, and all YOUR employees in the management of your cherished natural resources.
Is that to say the Federal Government's perfect? Hell no! There are many a decision made by the agency of my employment that I can only scratch my head and wonder "what the Hell were they thinking?!?!" But those decisions, those programs, those activities were funded and implemented because someone, in the general public, wanted them. And they spoke up for them. Hydroelectric power? Cheap timber off the Tongass? Oil platforms in the ANWR? Cows on the range? Cyanide strip mine in a bull trout watershed? Commercial access to wild fisheries? Someone in the US wanted access to that resource, and voted accordingly, and contributed $$'s accordingly, to get that response. Yet another part of the "Tragedy of the Commons" - everyone wants everything from every natural resource, and it simply cannot be provided, especially with the ever burgeoning human population...
Pescaphile - take no personal offense to your comment, there's many a time I share a similar view point. But pointing the finger at a nameless and faceless Federal Government won't change anything. I hope you are taking the opportunity to participate as a part of that Federal Government, as that is the only way change will come in that realm...
Finally - and sorry for this overly long-winded response - the comment that got this whole discussion started - Anders' comment in regards to animal abuse and the hypocritical context of a fisherman "calling the kettle black". To me, Anders' response to Deerhawk's rant is comparing apples to oranges. And it comes down to the resource at hand - wild versus farm raised. In my mind, and I think this is where Deerhawk was coming from, there is a VERY distinct difference between the packaged "salmon"/elk steak/pheasant/venison that I may buy wrapped in celophane at a super market or order at a restaurant; and the WILD salmon/elk/pheasant/venison that I took part in the killing, processing, and consuming (or in the case of C&R, caught and released). Its the difference between an animal's/fish's life spent in a cage/fenced enclosure/warehouse, being fed processed food/hormones/antibiotics, killed by an unknown individual, removed of blood and guts and gore, placed in plastic wrap or on a plate, and served to me with out any appreciation for where it came from or how it lived; and an animal/fish that lived its existence in the wild, free of enclosures and control, eating "natural" things (until it hits my traditional spey fly.... ), and me taking direct responsibility for its death, demise, and my consumption (or in C&R - release). Its about quality of life. Life is violent - Death happens, regularly. I, for one, choose to be an active participant in that process, and prefer to take part in an animals life and death, that had the opportunity to live as it's species has evolved to live - not in a cage or pen...
Some one PLEASE knock the soap box from underneath my feet before I rant again!!!!
No problem, I hope this debate is not taken out of the friendly point-counter-point context it is intended to be kept to; in fact your replies only confirms that we are just people who care (all of us in this thread).
However, I must point out in the spirit of debate that you did not answer my question and I remain quite convinced that if not for the C&R angler there would be no meaningful assembly of humans who give a damn about the preservation of gamefish species.
Percentages of those who participate? Agreed, it's shamefully low.
Luckily there are people like Deerhaawk who are not in that silent majority.
I can tell you one party who sure doesn't seem to give a damn about fish and that is our federal government. They've been trying hard to promote a steelhead harvest fishery here in southeast Alaska for subsistence and they are using all their (our) abundant resources to do just this. And this is mostly on tiny streams with annual runs on the order of only 50 fish or so. Right now, I can legally go out and snag native fish and the only reportig of the harvest is on the honor system. Of course, if I can't find my snagging gear I could just use a pitchfork to legally spear these fish. The state is resisting but its tough to fight those with all that money and resources. It's all about power and politics.
Thanks for taking my post in the devil's advocate context in which it was made. I've been expecting someone to lay into me about calling poor ol' Deerhawk a hypocrite.
Well I respect a good debate as long as it's civil and friendly, and I agree that the vast majority don't (directly) do squat, but please allow me to ask you a question -
who cares more about fish than C&R anglers then?
C'mon Juro, to say that no one cares more han C&R anglers just aint so. The vast majority of anglers (C&R included) don't do squat for fish. There are certainly those that do a lot, and judging from Deerhawk's description of some of his endeavors he does (Thanks DH), but most just talk.
And Anders, assuming you are correct for sake of argument, why wouldn't DH have a right to speak his mind? Do we lose our rights to opine if we are a hypocrite?
NPR audio - good piece...
Juro - thanks for providing the link to the NPR story. I was fortunate to hear the broadcast coming home the other night. I thought the most compelling evidence of the problem was the capturing of smolts emmigrating out of the river and going past the fish farming operation. The fish captured and examined before the trap had no evidence of these lice. When fish were captured after passing the farming operation approximately 100% of them showed that they had the parasitic lice. Bad news not only for the fish from that stream, but when the congregate with other fish from other rivers in the ocean - then they pass along the lice to these other fish. So it is just not an issue that is limited tp a specific river's fish.
Anders - care to provide more of your opinions, or elaborate a little to your post. From first reading it would seem like you are trolling for conflict, or have another agenda. Why shouldn't Deerhawk be concerned over the issue? He (like the majority of the rest of us) are concerned when there is an issue that can impact wild fish stocks. I may not fish for wild pacific salmonids, but I still value them. If there is a specific issue affecting their ability to survive, then that should be looked at and addressed. Just because we recreationally fish does not mean we cannot offer our opinions on the issue. The money raised from our recreational license fees/fuel taxes/taxes on hunting and fishing gear is what contributes to the managment agencies ability to study these issues.
I must admit that you have a point: how could a person who tracks down, tricks and captures an animal acuse anyone else of abuse?
Perhaps 'abuse' was not the most succint term to describe Deerhaawk's point, who has no reason to defend his shining record as a proactive environmentally dedicated steward of the resource. His actions speak loudly on his behalf. A more appropriate term would have been "genocide", which more accurately describes a systematic plague-like destruction of one of earth's precious and fragile miracles, our native anadramous salmonids.
I would make two points of my own:
1) No faction of human life cares more deeply for the welfare of fish than the C&R angler, if not for this growing active interest group no one would care but for a few lonely biologists. No one would fight for protective regulations like the WSC, no one would fight for removal of dams, no one would work to raise public awareness, fight to protect habitat, or care enough to stop the problem of fish farming side effects. We are the fish's best friend in the hard reality of our world today.
2) The bottom line is how fish are affected. If we are to be called abusers for a pin prick in the lip in exchange for our intense appreciation and desire to understand a species, then so be it. However if someone next door is eating that same fish dressed and filleted from the market having been caught in a gillnet, they too are abusers to a higher degree as the fish had to give it's life and body tissue for the table.
If a biologist captures and tags a fish with a radio transmitter to study it's movements, then he too must be an abuser. Even though his data has proven to be of immense value in understanding the behavior of the species as a whole.
Those salmon holding boxes in Scandinavian rivers - pure torture. In fact tagging of any species must fall into that category.
For that matter disciplining my dog to stop him from crapping on the living room carpet as a puppy, or ultimately forcing my own children to do their algebra before they went out to play, tears in their eyes as the other kids laughed and rode their bikes. How cruel I am, but this boy is now pulling a 3.8 GPA in college.
The PETA activists are obsessed with the 'pin prick' while they are part of the big societal steamroller that rolls over entire strains of dwindling fish species turning a blind eye to the real causes that affect our fish, like sea lice infestations in the sea. They don't see the forest for the trees when if comes to how fish are affected. These individuals are so lost they only think of individual animals feelings while entire races of these animals perish. Perhaps the right term for this is "hypocrisy".
Deerhaawk has everything to be proud of in terms of his record on behalf of fish, and I know he is just getting revv'ed up. I don't think it matters so much what the little terms are - abuse, genocide, hypocrisy etc. It matters most that he is actively involved, and cares about the species as a whole and is willing to invest time and energy toward their well-being. If everyone were as dedicated as he, the fish would be much, much better off.
Animal Abuse
So lets discuss this topic, I'm game.....
As a responsible Angler, my very basic premise when I am enjoying this sport, and I do LOVE this sport, is to treat each animal with the utmost care and respect.
I practice 100% Catch and Release, in an effort to keep our dwindling fish stocks in check.
I am regularly involved in projects that help promote the natural structure that the fish lives in, stream restoration, clean-up,etc, and continuing education of all individuals that will lend an ear about the SUPREME importance of a balanced and sustainable fishery. If you came to my home state of Oregon, I would be glad to have you come along to some of the most pristine Blue Ribon, 5 Star flyfishing anywhere on this ball we call Earth! I would take you to, and make you understand how important they are! Most of which, I might ad, have been saved from sure destruction by the efforts of myself and other like minded individuals that would think nothing of leaving behind there gear and pick up a shovel or trash bag to spend a day MAKING SURE that these streams and rivers in this already fragile e co-system stay sustainable!
In the past I have asked for representitives of the Fish Farming Industry to step forward on this forum or any other in an effort to see if there might be even ONE that might be doing things right. But so far......SILENCE!
If I even thought that there was one out there I would be glad to give them the benifit of the doubt. But Anders, the truth speaks for it self. These Farm Opperations cause huge ecological problems everywhere they get set-up, THAT is the bottom line!
If you think that catching a Trout with a hook and line is tantamount to animal abuse, then neither I nor anyone else will change your mind about that, but it does make me wonder why you bothered regestering on the Forum, are you not an Angler yourself?
For years these problems have plagued this industry, for years the storys keep comming. When will the ABUSE of these animals for profit STOP. Do you hold the answer Anders? Do you know some responsible Fish Farmers that are doing things right? I am passionate about how I feel in regards to the fish, because quite frankly, the poor bastards need people like me and others here on the Forum to stand up for them. Do you share that same passion, Anders?
I look forward to your response.
I remain.....HOT
As a game fisher why would Deerhawk have no right to point a finger? I'm a bit confused. Would love to hear more on what you are trying to say.
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Thread: Losing my neons
04-21-2007, 03:51 PM #1Member Swordtails
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Losing my neons
I already have this in a thread in the beginner forum, but figured I would post here too......... on Thursday we bought 8 neons for our 10G tank (nothing else in the tank).......... we had previous problems with ammonia (killed 3 goldfish) and so had the tank cycling......... we had the LFS test our water twice, and the last time we were there the ammonia was a little high, so we left it another few days, tested ourselves, were confident of the water and so bought the neons.
The first night 2 died, the second day another 2, then yesterday another 2 and today another 1.......... leaving us with 1 neon. They all exhibited the same symptoms that our goldfish did, floating randomly, lethargic......... further tests on our water revealed ammonia at 0 (I also carried out a 50% water change after the first 4 died)......... we have soft water with a low pH and the tank is heated to about 80F.......... any idea's what killed the neons? they had appeared happy and very active in the tank, colors were bright, I have not been able to see any discoloration around their gills. So I have no idea what is killing them, and am really just waiting now on the last one to die......... any clues on what could be killing them? I have that I have now had 10 fish in total die, especially when we felt that our water was cycled (no ammonia, nitrite, low nitrate)........... I am reluctant to buy any more fish as we don't want them to die, and am at the point in giving up on our tank.
Is it possible the neons do not like our water? they are used to town water and we have well water? is there any other fish we could try? we want something small (tank size) and that we can get a good number of (the neons looked great zooming around the tank together).........
Any advice is really appreciated at this point. Thanks.
could be that a constant tetra with neon disease is coming in
04-21-2007, 04:05 PM #3Member Swordtails
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I just called the LFS where we bought the neons and they said it could still be ammonia? not sure how that can be since the ammonia is reading 0..........the guy told me neons are very susceptible to ammonia poisoning and that even though our tank is a month old its still new enough for ammonia to kill the neons.......... then suggested doing a 25% water change (already did a 50%) and let it sit for a week before trying some bigger tetras.
Not sure what other tetras to get, but will be leaving the tank until at least next Thursday before I add anything to it.
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The symptoms sound similar to what happened wit hsome cichlids i bought earlier in the month. I would recommend checking any decorations you have, if any of them look suspicious (it was slate for me, its fine now, but i had to soak it), or rocks, or naything, check that first. then check your PH, if its too high and they go from a very low one, the shock will kill them, easily.
Test your tap water see what readings you get. What conditioner do you use? Do you use bleach, or soap to clean anything that goes in your aquarium?
Last edited by J5589; 04-24-2007 at 12:50 AM.
I am having the same issue and posted in the Biginner forum as well. My post can be found here.
I have good levels for everything that I have tested (chlorine, nitrite, ph, hardness, and ammonia). The nitrite and ammonia levels are just in trace amounts.
My question is pertaining to the water temperature. I have my tank around 79-80F just as the OP. A lot of the documentation I've read on the neons, puts the ideal range in around a 72-76 level. Could it be that the neons are that sensitive to temperature? Just as the OP, I'm running out of things to point fingers at.
A few degrees shouldnt be the culprit. perhaps you keeps getting a batch with neon disease?
Neons are intolerate of water having any ammonia or nitrites and I'm sure the guy at the store hit it on the head.
You mentioned you had goldfish that had died in cycling the tank and then later added the neons. This tells me this tank has still not cycled. You will test for 0 if nothing has yet cycled. You mentioned you had the tank cycled. How did you do it?
Neons must not be as nearly hardy as they use to be. When I was 12 (long long time ago) I use to run neons along with goldfish in a tank that I never did water changes on with a bio wheel and I'd maybe only loose 1 every 4 months. I even ran them in plain tap water with no conditioner, though that was well water in Alaska lol.
Were the fish at the surface seeming to gasp for air?
When you had the goldfish die, did you start over or did you just use the same water that the dead golfish were floating in?
If your last fish dies, I'd probably start over. Take everything down, wash and rinse the heck out of everything not using soap, but the suggestions in e-book at the left. Wash out the tank in the same manner and your filter system as well, tossing the filter you have and get a new one, then follow the fishless cycle listed in the ebook and then try again.
If you start over, complete the cycle, and still have fish die, I'd change where you are getting fish and change your brand of water conditioner.
Last edited by jttt3; 05-17-2007 at 02:42 PM.
I don't think neon tetra disease is all that common and they also don't die that fast. Ammonia or nitrites will kill them in a very short time, however. My neons have gotten moved back and forth from tank to tank I don't know how many times and have lived thru every move. I have lost maybe 3 in a year and am finding my remainders pretty hardly little buggers.
Tetra's are claimed to do better with temps around 74-76 but mine have been in warmer tanks, as well.


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they call guns up and as I come out of last blind they ask my number and then tell me to go back into holding blind because they notice the have a live duck on the line. I go back into holding blind. They attempt to catch the duck and it jumps into the pond and hides up under the bank (it was a wounded bird) I say cool the duck is hiding let me run and then we can get the duck for you on way out, judge says OK so I come out of holding blind again, judge says "wait go back" and calls over gunner who sluices the bird about 7 yards from me and dog. my dog marks the bird thru the holding blind. Judge tells me to not let my dog look at bird and come on up and run test. I walk out and my dog marks the live flyer/walp up and then turns and looks at the duck in the pond (about 6-8 yars away) and does not see the 2nd bird go down, but does see the 3rd bird go down. I pick up the go bird and then the flyer and have to handle on the 2nd bird and judge tells me to "just do what you have to do to pick it up" . Then I pick up the duck they sluiced before we started the test.
Would it have been better if I had not sent my dog after they released me and just asked them if they wanted me to go back 3? Would it have been ok to pick up the bird that wasn't part of the test 2nd so I might have had a better chance of the bird he did not see? Should I have just stepped out of the blind and sent my dog for the extra bird and picked that up and then let them figure out what to do? Should I have said something about them sluicing the bird like wait till I get back out of the holding blinds before you sluice it?
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