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Does anyone know what kind of commission the sales people make at Brasswind, Dillon, or Giardinelli's?
I am trying to figure out how much negotiating power I have if they are going to make commission on a few horns in one shot.
Does anyone know what kind of commission the sales people make at Brasswind, Dillon, or Giardinelli's?
I am trying to figure out how much negotiating power I have if they are going to make commission on a few horns in one shot.
I am not sure how much comission they really get. When I have worked for music stores in the past, I have always been paid by the hour and noone was getting any kind of commission. I wouldn't walk into Dillon and try to bargain with them like you are buying a car. That's just not cool. They are a small business trying to compete with the big corps. You could try at Brasswind and Giardinelli's. I don't think you will get anywhere, but you can try.
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Wildman, even if you knew the commissions (or the stores margins) that would not help you. Getting paid commissions generally means a much reduced fixed salary and your question in that context would only hurt the salesmans paycheck.
More applicable would be knowing the stores margins. They are pretty easy to figure out. Take the lowest internet price, deduct 2 or 3% and you have the cost price to the music store. Small and medium sized businesses really need around 10% just to make ends meet (meaning that they could afford to be there to serve you next year). That is very tough to get with the internet pressure.
If your only intention is to get the lowest price, buy on the internet. Even you will eventually learn that SERVICE does not come free.
It is your right to ask for a discount. If they think you are reasonable, you may get what you want. I would venture to say, your negotiating power has more to do with your personality than your knowledge of margins.
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Some helpful comments but I won't quote everyone here.
I will say that I don't give 2 hoots about the salesman's paycheck, or the store owner's pocket for that mattter. I have dealt with leaders who say "If I pay you any more it is out of my own pocket" Well, better his than mine.
The salesman will maybe deal with me. This store probably figures that they will sell the horn I am looking at anyway. I don't think they are going to let the salesman sell it cheaper. The only discount I see is off the sales commission. That's why I am looking to find it.
I wondered if anyone had worked in these stores and knew for sure what their cut was.
I'm not trying to cut you down, but... As others have mentioned, a lot of these smaller places don't have much of a sales margin anyways. Do you honestly feel comfortable asking a hardworking salesman to give you the food off his (or her) table just because you feel that you shouldn't play full price for a horn? What would you say to someone who wants to hire you for a gig but thinks they can get away with paying you $50 for three hours? What if they say, "hey, you're not doing anything that night anyway, why don't you just play for 20 percent of what you actually deserve?"
To be honest, you sound a little arrogant, and that's not going to help your cause. Why not try to be a little more positive and tell the leader who can't pay you any more that you're just thankful to be a working musician? Politely ask if there is any way you can get a discount, but don't demand it. Chances are you'll get a lot more work with a positive attitude and you won't have to worry as much about trying to save 50 bucks on your new horn...
PS. If you really want to bargain, go for a used horn. It's amazing what you can find on craigslist, especially if your in a big metropolitan area. Also, music stores are going to be a lot more open to bargaining on their consignment horns than they will their new instruments.
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Oh yes, what ever massah wants to give me I'll gladly accept because he is the one who deserves it, not me. I'm so lucky to be a working musician, It's such an honor to be asked to play in his crummy group and make him look good. Why don't I play for $5 an hour? Then he could keep even more money in his pocket.
The intent of this thread is to find out bargianing power. I don't care about finding used horns in different places.
Thanks to those sticking to the original topic. No more bleeding heart bologna please.
Last edited by Wildman; 09-18-2007 at 12:10 PM.
I think we need to keep things unconfused. There is a difference between getting a great deal (win/win) and getting screwed (lose/win) or screwing (win/lose)!
The reason most shops are not having a very easy time these days is because the internet with NO storefront and minimal employees has less overhead. Many shoppers only concerned with the lowest possible price enjoy the opportunity to try out horns at a music store, but are not willing to acknowledge that capital tied up in inventory is results in a higher price worth paying. They "steal" the advantage by trying the horns out at the stores expense and then "screw" the store by buying elsewhere - short term a win/lose situation, but as the stores go out of business, a lose/lose situation.
I am not accusing you of doing this but you do not get "ripped off" when you pay the price of the horn PLUS the cost of business. You do not get ripped off when you pay a "higher price" than on the internet IF you have the advantage of being able to pick the best from several instruments. You get ripped off if you go into any purchase situation ignorant. You rip others off when you use their money to help you make a decision and do not honor that advantage with your purchase.
As I said in my last post "I would venture to say, your negotiating power has more to do with your personality than your knowledge of margins." If you go into a purchasing situation as "aggressive" as your posts seem, you probably will not even GET the "opportunity" to bargain.
It is understandable that we have players on both sides of this fence. Many of us are willing to pay for a true value add and are annoyed by apparent greed. The terms "ripped off" and arrogant only serve to heat up the discussion with no additional value to the thread.
My advice is to go get that "best deal" with charm and reason. Keep in mind that the store owner is not an idiot or thief when his first concern is the survival of his shop. Selling you instruments at his cost price does not help him be there for US next year!
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You are being ridiculous. It is one thing to ask for a fair deal. It is a whole different thing to demand noone make a profit for goods or services that you want. I can appreciate haggling on a horn or any other product. If it were my store, and you came in acting like that, you'd be tossed out in 2 seconds. Noone wants to deal with an ahole. I would be much more willing to discount a horn to someone who is courteous and respectful. Just my opinion, do what you will.
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Remember - you get what you pay for. The meaning of which runs waaaay deeper than you think. Your bandleader knows what I mean. There is more to it than just sticking a horn on your face and playing the right notes and having them sound good.
Go find your discount, but if you don't take something away from this thread about attitude it is your loss.
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She worked for the Michigan Department of Transportation for 15 years before retiring to St. James Plantation with husband Robert in 1995. She was an active member of the United Methodist Church for years, and had a deep passion for travel and golf.
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I also want to thank all the pastors and laity who participated in the event. A special thank you to Marty Cooke, who provided the sound system and Al Parker, who took time to erect the banner for the event.
Rev. Richard C. Vaughan
NDP local coordinator
To the editor: Paws-Ability recently hosted its inaugural celebrity golf tournament at St. James Plantation in Southport on Saturday, April 24. We sincerely appreciate the support of St. James Plantation and our many sponsors, silent auction donors, tournament participants, volunteers and the community in making this event such a success.
To the editor: The governor wants to spend $4.7 million ($10 million total) for a feasibility study on the new port at Southport. This is in addition to the $30 million the state still owes the federal government for the current Wilmington Harbor Project.
And let's not forget the $225,000 the state is spending on a study for a new road to the port when the land for the port is still unpaid ($30 million).
I thought we were in a fiscal crisis? So far, the state is in hock for $60 million and the governor wants to add millions to that total.
To the editor: I worked the polls on Election Day, campaigning for Frank Iler at the Methodist Church on Oak Island. The rain was pounding at times and the wind was cranky enough to discourage voter participation and encourage voter complacency.
And yet, a man came out to vote who had lost both his legs in the Vietnam War. I know this because I commented (in awe and admiration) to my fellow campaigners about this fellow and was told his story.
For all Brunswick County townships, it's time to duplicate the sweepstakes moratorium imposed recently by Leland, Burgaw and Wilmington—rejection of new business licenses for Internet waging and a renewal fee of $1,000 per year for each computer used for gambling. The usual grandfather clause should exist for current operations.
I would like to respond to the gentleman who suggests the county should cut computer services in our county libraries.
Our county is large and diverse in our population and the needs of our residents are therefore large and diverse.
I am retired and have been using this library for years on a regular basis and am appreciative of the services they provide.
Some of the services I know the Rourk Library has available include:
On April 26, Congressman Mike McIntyre proudly stood with Blue Dog Democrats proclaiming he has co-sponsored legislation to reduce discretionary spending by 6 percent.
At first glance, this sounds like a great idea because it sounds like the initiative cuts out wasteful spending; however, I researched what programs are mandated to be under discretionary funding and among others it included the Veterans Affairs Department, which covers healthcare for veterans.
Just to show you the height of awareness and intelligence of North Carolinian smokers, I was at a gas station getting gas. The customer right across from me was standing outside of his car smoking. I told him that the slice through smoking on the gas pump meant you were not supposed to smoke here. It was a fire hazard.
He said he could not smoke in the car because there was a baby in it.
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Set in the near future, the Battlefield: Bad Company single-player campaign drops gamers into a dramatic Eurasian conflict. As part of a squad of four soldiers, players risk it all to go AWOL on a personal quest for riches and revenge. Featuring a dramatic storyline flavored with dark humor, Battlefield: Bad Company leads gamers far from the traditional frontlines on a wild ride with a group of renegade soldiers who decide that sometimes the gratitude of a nation just isn't enough.
The Battlefield: Bad Company cinematic single-player experience captures the freedom and intensity of the franchise's legendary multiplayer sandbox gameplay in a dynamic world where nearly everything is destructible. Gamers have total freedom to be daring and innovative, adapting to and tackling challenges in unexpected "Battlefield-style" ways. Create sniping positions by blowing out a piece of a wall or drive your tank straight through a small house – anything can happen on an ever-changing battlefield, forcing players, their teammates, and enemies to react accordingly.
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Deadline is reporting that Fox has started production on an hourlong TV action comedy based on the popular EA and DICE game, Battlefield: Bad Company. The series will be written by Alias' John Eisendrath and follows four renegade soldiers as they exit military life and enter the private sector. However, their commanding officer had used […]
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Tjorven loves to be in the images
I usually take a lot of images so that I can edit several of them later, and maybe use them for other images. I have started to edit one of the images and I hope that it will be a book cover one day!
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Last year I felt quite unproductive, but as I look back, I discover that I have created at least 26 images, and this makes me feel so proud! Though it has been a chaotic year for me, I have managed to hold on to what is most important to me: photography. When I create, I am happy and whole. Nothing in the world can compete with that feeling.
Thank you for following my journey. Thank you for all your messages and emails and for showing me that you exist. I´m so incredibly happy to get to share what I love the most with you!
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I try to catch autumn because it is so beautiful. I know some people don´t like autumn. Some people say they long for summer. But the colors and the fresh wind and the coldness in the air makes me feel so alive, so clean. I love autumn <3]]>
I have a You Tube- channel where I post little movies from my photo shoots and edits. This is all new to me so I´m so excited for this! I love to watch the process of other photographers through You Tube, and I felt that I wanted to share my own process with you! I´ve done three little movies so far. Head over to my channel to have a look!]]>
This past week, I´ve had some absolutely wonderful days spent in nature. I shot these images two days ago, when the sun was spreading gold all over the fields. To be able to combine photography and nature makes me so happy. I love spending time outside, breathing fresh air and looking at all the beauty through the lens! Yesterday evening I was out to photograph, this morning before school I also went out to photograph, and I just came back after shooting this evening. Feeling the passion for photography coming back to me, flowing through me after months without it, feels like starting to breath again.]]>
My advice for when you´re editing is that you let the image "speak" for itself. Maybe you had a vision in mind, but it´s important to be open to change while editing. For me, the image often turns out different than I had planned. I believe that it´s important to be open minded in the creative process, both when you´re shooting out on the field and when you´re inside, editing. So many exciting things can happen in the process, and you don´t want to miss that! I often go out with a plan when I shoot. I start with photographing the planned image. But then I also improvise, both with positioning and different angles. Sometimes the best comes out of the improvised images, and sometimes the best comes out of the first, strictly planned image. You never know!
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Community Works Operative 4 (LGV), Lairg - HGH03571Vacancy posted: Tuesday, 18 October 2016
Salary: £18,028 - £20,298
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Post Title: Community Works Operative 4 (LGV)
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I am trying to buy some domestic tickets (mostly NRT-ITM/KIX) within Japan and am getting quoted outrageous amounts. Cheapest I found was USD 300+. If I need to buy a ticket and not use some Japan Pass option, where should I look?
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'Techniques of the Old Masters'
Learn methods of creating a painting that the great masters of art have used for centuries at Wayne County Arts Alliance, 10am-5pm, members $70, non-members $80, +$15 material fee. RSVP: 570/390-4420.
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Wine & food tasting at the Wayne County Public Library. RSVP: 570/253-1220.
Honesdale hires temporary zoning officer
The Honesdale Borough Council has hired a temporary replacement for Wayne Earley, who was fired on March 12. The replacement is Robert Bates of Honesdale. Read more
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An enormous bank of book titles are now available as e-books at any of the Wayne County public libraries. Library patrons can now "borrow" the e-book for two weeks, after which the book disappears from your reader, although you can renew it for another two weeks. Read more
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text: I don't much about New Zealand except for the fact that they shot Lord Of The Rings there. That alone makes the entire country pretty okay in my book. I also know it's like a 20 hour flight to get there, so fuck that noise. But most of what I know about New Zealand comes from the I Love Ugly, a brand that has been serving up contemporary, unique sportswear (note the poopy butt pants) ,while flying under the thirst radar of all you beasters. For March, the label has dropped a new capsule collection of spring weight parkas. The Englishmen print jacket is a personal favorite, if only because I would want people to ask me about it. Then I could tell them I got it during an intense trip of self-discovery in New Zealand and, as with everywhere I travel, I discovered some really dope jackets.


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Celtics rout Lakers 116-95 for 6th straight win
By HOWARD ULMAN
Associated Press
BOSTON — The rivalry between the Celtics and Lakers keeps rolling even if they no longer dominate the NBA.
And that brought some extra satisfaction to Boston's Paul Pierce after he led a 116-95 rout of Los Angeles with 24 points on Thursday night.
"It always feels good when you can give them a little old-fashioned beatdown in your house, no matter what direction these teams are going," he said. "It'll always be a rivalry. Everybody's always going to watch."
It was even more special, and perhaps surprising, that the win gave the Celtics a 6-0 record since losing point guard Rajon Rondo for the season with a torn knee ligament.
"We're in a rhythm. We're moving the ball," said Kevin Garnett, who had 15 points and became the 16th player in NBA history to reach the 25,000-point mark. "Some day when I'm rocking in a rocking chair having a cigar and thinking what I've done I'm sure it'll make some sense to me, (but) the first priority was the Lakers."
The teams have met a record 12 times in the NBA Finals, the last in 2010 when the Lakers won in seven games. Only four players on those teams were active Thursday — Kobe Bryant and Metta World Peace for Los Angeles and Pierce and Garnett for Boston. Pau Gasol and Rondo also played in that series but missed Thursday's game.
In 2008, the Celtics beat the Lakers in six games for the championship.
"You can feel the energy every time the Lakers come into the building," Pierce said. "There's always a little extra mustard you're going to try to put out there when this type of setting is set up for you."
The Lakers played with Dwight Howard after he missed three games with a sore right shoulder but without Gasol, who is out indefinitely with a torn plantar fascia in his right foot.
Bryant scored 27 to lead the Lakers, who had won their previous three games but suffered their worst loss of the season. Howard had nine points and nine rebounds in 28 minutes before fouling out with 5:07 left.
"There were a couple times where I felt (the shoulder pain)," he said, "but I just tried not to think about it. "
World Peace also was back after a one-game suspension for grabbing Detroit's Brandon Knight around the neck and striking him in the jaw with the knuckles of his mostly open hand in the Lakers' 98-97 win Sunday.
The Lakers cut a 58-44 halftime deficit to 72-61 with 5:07 left in the third quarter. Then the Celtics went on a 23-8 run and led 95-69 going into the fourth. Pierce started the surge with a three-point play and ended it with a 3-pointer with 41 seconds left, giving him 12 points in the period.
"The first half was just as bad as the second," said Lakers point guard Steve Nash, who had just nine points and five assists. "Disappointing performance, start to finish."
The win was the Celtics' biggest of the season and broke a tie with Milwaukee for seventh place in the East. They moved within 1 games of sixth.
"The roof just kind of caved in on us," Bryant said. "It always just seems like whenever their backs are against the wall you know that's when you really see the best from them."
The Lakers had won six of their previous seven games and had moved three games behind the Houston Rockets for the eighth and final playoff spot in the West.
But they trailed by at least 11 points throughout the second half.
Previously, the Celtics' biggest win was 94-75 at Indiana on Jan. 4, and the Lakers' worst loss was 113-97 at Sacramento on Nov. 21.
Garnett reached 25,000 points with an 11-foot turnaround jumper that gave him six for the game and put the Celtics ahead 39-29 with 8:08 left in the half. Jeff Green had 19 points and Jason Terry added 15.
Besides Rondo, rookie forward Jared Sullinger also is out for the season after having back surgery and sat out his fourth game.
"Our guys just think they're good," Boston coach Doc Rivers said. "We're playing selfless and free."
The Celtics led by 14 at halftime after hitting 51.1 percent of their shots while the Lakers kept missing open jumpers and sank just 37.8 percent of theirs, including just 2 of 12 from beyond the 3-point arc.
Los Angeles' last lead, 11-10, came on a 12-foot turnaround fadeaway by Bryant with 6:38 left in the first quarter.
Boston led 27-23 going into the second and built it to 55-40 when Garnett drew two defenders to him under the basket and passed to Chris Wilcox for a dunk with 2:35 left.
Boston took its biggest lead of the half, 58-42 on two free throws by Pierce with 37 seconds to go.
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The External Control Protocol (ECP) enables a Roku device to be controlled over a local area network by providing a number of external control services. The Roku devices offering these external control services are discoverable using SSDP (Simple Service Discovery Protocol). ECP is a simple RESTful API that can be accessed by programs in virtually any programming environment.
SSDP (Simple Service Discovery Protocol)
SSDP is an industry IETF standard network protocol for discovery of local area network services. Roku devices advertise their external control services using the multicast SSDP so that programs can discover the IP address of Roku devices in the area. There is a standard SSDP multicast address and port (22.214.171.124:1900) used for local area network communication. The Roku device responds to M-SEARCH queries on this IP address and port.
To query for a Roku device IP address, send the following HTTP request to 18.104.22.168 port 1900:
Host: 18.104.22.168:1900
Man: "ssdp:discover"
ST: roku:ecp
Note there must be a blank line at the end of the file above. If you put the above request into a file such as roku_ecp_req.txt, you can issue the following command on most Linux machines to test the request:
% ncat 220.127.116.11 1900 < roku_ecp_req.txt
If you view the response using Wireshark, and filter on port 1900, you can see the Roku device response (Ncat has trouble receiving multicast traffic, so viewing the response using Ncat does not work). The response has the following format:
Cache-Control: max-age=300
ST: roku:ecp
Location: http://192.168.1.134:8060/
USN: uuid:roku:ecp:P0A070000007
If you get a 200 status response, the Location header is valid. You can parse out the URL for the Roku device external control services from the Location header. The Roku device serial number is contained in the USN line after uuid:roku:ecp. Note that if there are multiple Roku devices in your local area network, you will get multiple responses. Your program could keep a map of USNs to location URLs, and allow the user to select which Roku device on the network to control. We recommend you let the user assign names to the USNs.
When parsing headers in the response, in accordance with the UPnP Device Architecture specification, field names should not be treated as case sensitive. That means that, for example, the Location header may begin with either "Location:" or "LOCATION:" or "location:", and so forth.
Please note the Cache-Control header. Roku devices multicast NOTIFY messages periodically (approximately every 20 minutes). It is safe to assume the unit is no longer available if you have not received a new NOTIFY message before the Cache-Control max-age time expires.
External Control Service Commands
The external control services provided by ECP are included in a simple RESTful API accessed using HTTP on port 8060. Once you have the Roku device IP address, you can issue the following external control service commands to the Roku device.
General ECP commands
|Returns a map of all the channels installed on the Roku device paired with their application ID. This command is accessed using an HTTP GET.
|Returns a child element named 'app' that identifies the active application, in the same format as 'query/apps'. If no application is active, such as when the user is in the homescreen, the element only contains "Roku". If a screensaver is active, a second element will be included containing "screensaver". If the screensaver is an application-provided or plug-in screensaver, the same information is provided as 'query/apps'. If the screensaver is active, but is not running (such as due to system limitations), the screensaver element contains "black". This command is accessed using an HTTP GET.
|Equivalent to pressing the remote control key identified after the slash. This command is sent using an HTTP POST with no body.
|Equivalent to releasing the remote control key identified after the slash. This command is sent using an HTTP POST with no body.
|Equivalent to pressing down and releasing the remote control key identified after the slash. You can also use this command, and the keydown and keyup commands, to send keyboard alphanumeric characters when a keyboard screen is active, as described in Keypress Key Values. This command is sent using an HTTP POST with no body.
Launches the channel identified by appID. You can follow the appID with a question mark and a list of URL parameters to be sent to the application as an associative array, and passed to the RunUserInterface() or Main() entry point. This command is sent using an HTTP POST with no body.
The launch command should not be used to implement deep-linking to an uninstalled channel, because it will fail to launch uninstalled channels. Use the install command instead for uninstalled channels.
|Exits the current channel, and launches the Channel Store details screen of the channel identified by appID. You can follow the appID with a question mark and a list of launch parameters to be sent to the application as an associative array, and passed to the RunUserInterface() or Main() entry point. If launch parameters are given, the channel is launched immediately after the user installs the channel, and deep-links to content provided in the launch parameters. This command is sent using an HTTP POST with no body.
|Retrieves device information similar to that returned by roDeviceInfo. This command is accessed using an HTTP GET.
Returns an icon corresponding to the application identified by appID. The binary data with an identifying MIME-type header is returned. This command is accessed using an HTTP GET.
Sends custom events to the current application. It takes a user defined list of name-value pairs sent as query string URI parameters. The external control server places these name-value pairs into an associative array, and passes them directly through to the currently executing channel script using a Message Port attached to a created roInput object. Input Command Conventions includes detailed recommendations on how to pass your data. Messages of type roInputEvent have a GetInfo() method that will obtain the associative array. The arguments must be URL-encoded. This command is sent using an HTTP POST with no body.
Roku TV ECP commands
Roku TV devices additionally support the following external control services.
|Returns information about the TV channel / line-up available for viewing in the TV tuner UI.
|Returns information about the currently tuned TV channel.
|Launch the TV tuner UI.
Can optionally be passed a TV channel parameter of the form "ch=1.1" to tune to the specified TV channel number.
Input Command Conventions
As the firmware simply marshals the arguments to the input command and passes them to the channel script, the forms below compose a conventional way to communicate input from several common input device types.
Sensor Input Values
There are four sensor input values to report: accelerometer, orientation, gyroscope (rotation), and magnetometer (magnetic). All except orientation are vectors in a cartesian coordinate system relative to the device in its default orientation:
- +x = to the right of the front face of the device (usually the short side)
- +y = to the top of the front face of the device (usually the long side)
- +z = out of the front face of the device (toward the viewer)
The orientation coordinate system is relative to the point on the surface of the Earth between the device and the center of the Earth:
- +x = east
- +y = north
- +z = towards the center of the Earth (down)
The type in all such cases is a string representation of a signed floating point number, with or without an explicit decimal, and with or without a signed integer exponent following the letter E. A missing decimal will be presumed after the rightmost present digit, and a missing exponent will be presumed 0.
indicates: acceleration in each dimension relative to free fall
units: meters/sec^2
names: acceleration.x, acceleration.y, acceleration.z
indicates: angular displacement from flat/level and true (or magnetic?) north.
units: radians
names: orientation.x, orientation.y, orientation.z
notes: Accurate indication of this is not generally possible without correlation with other sensors or assumptions. Devices make assumptions to flip the display, for example, that assume that the device is usually not moving (much) so that all force is simply opposed to gravity, and that can be assumed to be the "up" direction. Deviation from magnetic north depends on a magnetometer, and deviation from true north also depends on geolocation.
indicates: angular rotation rate about each axis using the right hand rule for sign
units: radians/sec
names: rotation.x, rotation.y, rotation.z
indicates: magnetic field strength
units: micro-Tesla
names: magnetic.x, magnetic.y, magnetic.z
Touch and Multi-Touch
Touch and Multi-Touch commands take the same form. The resource is the same "input" as all other generic input commands.
Each action is decomposed to an argument in each dimension (of 2, x and y with the same orientation as for the sensor inputs, with origin in lower left). There is an additional "op" argument which can specify down, up, press (down and up), move, or cancel. Each input is also qualified with a pointer id that indicates the initial order of down touches in a multi-touch gesture.
Several such points can be specified in a single POST, especially a move, but a full triad of x, y, and op arguments should be sent, and expected for each point, within a POST that contains any of them.
Additional Input Values
Other information you might want to pass using the input command may include:
- sensor accuracy
- geolocation (from GPS)
- device-provided derivations of above sensor readings, for example "shake" from accelerometer, or "pinch" from multi-touch
External Control Protocol Examples
The following are some example ECP commands sent via the curl command.
query/apps Example
The following command gets a list of channels and their corresponding app ids.
$ curl http://192.168.1.134:8060/query/apps
<app id="11">Roku Channel Store</app>
<app id="12">Netflix</app>
<app id="13">Amazon Video on Demand</app>
<app id="14">MLB.TV®</app>
<app id="26">Free FrameChannel Service</app>
<app id="27">Mediafly</app>
<app id="28">Pandora</app>
query/active-app Examples
The query/active-app command if the user is in the homescreen.
$ curl http://192.168.1.134:8060/query/active-app
The query/active-app command if the user is in the homescreen but the default screensaver is active.
$ curl http://192.168.1.134:8060/query/active-app
<active-app> <app>Roku</app>
<screensaver id="55545" type="ssvr" version="2.0.1">Default screensaver</screensaver>
The query/active-app command if the user is in the Netflix app.
$ curl http://192.168.1.134:8060/query/active-app
<app id="12" type="appl" version="4.1.218">Netflix</app>
The query/active-app command if the user is in the Roku Media Player with an active screensaver.
$ curl http://192.168.1.134:8060/query/active-app
<app id="2213" type="appl" version="4.1.1507">Roku Media Player</app>
<screensaver id="5533" type="ssvr" version="1.1.1">Roku Digital Clock</screensaver>
keypress Example
The following command simulates a user hitting the "Home" button
$ curl -d '' http://192.168.1.134:8060/keypress/home
keyup/keydown Example
The following commands move the cursor to the far left by holding down the Left key for 10 seconds
$ curl -d '' http://192.168.1.134:8060/keydown/left
$ sleep 10
$ curl -d '' http://192.168.1.134:8060/keyup/left
launch Examples
The following command will launch the dev app on the box. The simplevideoplayer app that comes with the SDK will process the "url" and "streamformat" parameters and launch the roVideoScreen to play the passed in video. We assume simplevideoplayer is installed as the side-loaded developer application.
$ curl -d '' 'http://192.168.1.134:8060/launch/dev?streamformat=mp4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.ted.com%2Ftalks%2Fpodcast%2FVilayanurRamachandran_2007_480.mp4'
The following command will launch the dev app on the box. The launchparams app that comes with the SDK will process the "contentID" and "options" parameters and display them on a SpringBoard page. We assume launchparams is installed as the side-loaded developer application. This technique is a useful way to create "clickable" ads that launch a springboard page for a particular title in your channel. Roku now supports clickable ads on the home screen as well.
$ curl -d '' 'http://192.168.1.134:8060/launch/dev?contentID=my_content_id&options=my_options'
launch parameters for the Channel Store app (channel ID 11)
The Channel Store app (channel ID 11) can be passed a "contentID" parameter with the channel ID of a target application.
The following command will launch the channel store app (11) on the box with a contentID equal to 14 (the MLB app).
You can get the plugin ID for your app using the /query/apps example above, which returns the installed apps on a Roku player.
(You should test that the channel is installed before using the launch command, and use the install command for uninstalled channels).
This technique would be useful in creating clickable ads in a free "Lite" version of a paid app.
When a user clicks on the ad, the channel store page to purchase the full version could be launched.
$ curl -d '' 'http://192.168.1.134:8060/launch/11?contentID=14'
launch parameters for the Roku TV Tuner app (channel ID tvinput.dtv)
The TV Tuner app can be launched and can optionally be passed a "ch" parameter with the channel number to tune to.
The following command will launch the TV tuner UI and display channel 1.1 (assuming that channel is available).
$ curl -d '' 'http://192.168.1.134:8060/launch/tvinput.dtv?ch=1.1'
query/icon Example
This following command will return the icon for the channel with id 12 (Netflix).
The response will be raw binary picture data, after HTTP headers, including one with the MIME type of the picture data.
$ curl 'http://192.168.1.134:8060/query/icon/12' > img.png
input Examples
The following command passes three components of acceleration through to the channel app. All query string parameters are passed to the currently running app. The remote app and the currently running app just need to agree on the query string parameters and any communication can be developed.
$ curl -d '' 'http://192.168.1.134:8060/input?acceleration.x=0.0&acceleration.y=0.0&acceleration.z=9.8'
The following command indicates that a touch at the given x and y has touched down on the screen.
$ curl -d '' 'http://192.168.1.134:8060/input?touch.0.x=200.0&touch.0.y=135.0&touch.0.op=down'
query/device-info Example
Below is an example query/device-info request and response.
$ curl 'http://192.168.1.134:8060/query/device-info'
<model-name>Roku 3</model-name>
query/tv-channels Example
Below is an example of the Roku TV query/tv-channels response.
$ curl 'http://192.168.1.134:8060/query/tv-channels'
query/tv-active-channel Example
Below is an example of the Roku TV query/tv-active-channel response.
$ curl 'http://192.168.1.134:8060/query/tv-active-channel'
<program-description>The team will travel all around the world in order to shut down a global crime ring.</program-description>
Implementing Deep Linking in a Channel
One of the most common ways that channel developers encounter ECP is when implementing deep linking. Deep linking on Roku is used by the Roku search service to launch titles as well as to launch channels and play specific content in response to the user clicking on an ad in the Roku home screen. Deep linking uses the optional parameters that are sent via the External Control Protocol from an ad or the search engine to the entry point of the channel BrightScript code. Typical BrightScript code to implement deep linking looks like this:
The standard for deep linking parameters enforced by Roku to support ads or universal search is that channels use the following parameters:
|Possible Values
|Partner defined unique identifier for a specific piece of content
|contentID=12345, and so forth
|Parameter to give context to the type of contentID passed.
"series","season", "episode", "movie", "shortform", and "live"
There is also "track" and "playlist" for music but Roku does not intend on supporting those in the OS but you could use them from an Ad.
When implementing deep-linking to a channel, you should first test if the channel is installed or not, because the launch command will not launch uninstalled channels. The following shows how this should be done in pseudo-code:
if IsChannelIstalled(channelID) then
end if
Developers can test deep linking by invoking the appropriate ECP command from the command line. For example, the install command below launches the side loaded channel on the Roku device on IP address 192.168.1.114 and passes the content ID 13234.
curl -d '' 'http://192.168.1.114:8060/launch/dev?contentID=13234&MediaType=series'
This example shows using the install command for uninstalled channels:
curl -d '' 'http://192.168.1.114:8060/install/8378?contentid=MV005011860000&MediaType=movie'
Keypress Key Values
When the current screen on the Roku box includes an on-screen keyboard, any keyboard character can be sent via the keyup, keydown, and keypress commands. The key parameter can either be a key name, such as the name of a button on a remote control, or a printable character value specified with the prefix "Lit_".
Printable ASCII character code values can be transmitted "as-is" with the "Lit_" prefix. For example, you can send a 'r' with "Lit_r". In addition, any UTF-8 encoded character can be sent by URL-encoding it. For example, the euro symbol can be sent with "Lit_%E2%82%AC".
There are even some keys you can send that are not available on any physical remote. Enter is for completing keyboard entry fields, such as search fields (it is not the same as Select). Search is useful for short-cutting directly to search screens.
The following are the key names that are recognized by ECP:
Some Roku devices, such as Roku TVs, also support:
Roku TV devices also support changing the channel when watching the TV tuner input:
Roku TV devices also support keys to set the current TV input UI:
Example: On the on-screen keyboard, the string 'roku' can be sent via the following commands:
$ curl -d '' http://192.168.1.134:8060/keypress/Lit_r
$ curl -d '' http://192.168.1.134:8060/keypress/Lit_o
$ curl -d '' http://192.168.1.134:8060/keypress/Lit_k
$ curl -d '' http://192.168.1.134:8060/keypress/Lit_u
Security Implications
Note that with the launch command, anyone could write a program that could pass arbitrary parameters to your BrightScript channel. It is important that you validate any parameters that are passed to your program, and check what they may do to your program flow. The launch command can be very powerful to provide all kinds of interaction between network devices and your program. We envision catalogs browsed on the Internet that could instantly be watched in your channel on the Roku. The door is open to many creative uses.
But if you prefer to shut this door on your channel, you can choose to not process any passed parameters. This will mean external control programs could launch your channel, but they could not change the program flow within your channel.
Example Programs
The SDK includes a sample External Control Protocol application that requires only glibc to compile. The program is self contained in the /examples/rokuExternalControl.c file of the SDK. You can compile and run it with the following commands:
% cd SDK_directory
% gcc ./examples/rokuExternalControl.c –o rokuExternalControl
% ./rokuExternalControl
On Windows, it can be compiled with the following line:
% cl /D "WIN32" rokuExternalControl.c
The program first uses SSDP to query for Roku devices in the local area network. The first Roku device that responds is the one to which commands are sent. All requests and responses are printed to stdout so that you can easily follow what the program is doing. The program next moves the cursor to the home screen and highlights the "Netflix" program. It does this by sending the Home key command, and then holding down the left key for twelve seconds. Then it sends the Right key three times. After keeping the "Netflix" program highlighted for five seconds, the program launches the simplevideoplayer application with url and streamformat as keys in the associative array passed to the Main() entry point. The simplevideoplayer application immediately launches the roVideoScreen when launched with an associative array containing valid url and streamformat keys.
With ECP, you have complete control of your Roku device over the network. We can't wait to see what kind of solutions our developer community can create. The sample C program can be quickly modified to run in a variety of environments including Firefox, IE, and other browser plugins, iPhone, iPad, and other mobile device environments.
The SDK also includes a couple of Java applications. There is an Android remote application in examples/source/ecp_client/android_remote, and a simple application to find Roku devices on the local area network in examples/source/ecp_client/Roku_Finder.
DIAL (Discovery and Launch)
The Roku platform supports the DIAL (Discovery and Launch) protocol. DIAL is a simple network protocol for discovering first screen devices, and applications from a second screen (such as a mobile iOS or Android application,) and for launching first screen applications on the first screen device from the second screen app. In the context of the Roku platform, the first screen device is the Roku device itself. A first screen application is a DIAL-aware channel installed on the Roku device. Complete details of the DIAL specification can be found here:
Many current Roku developers are familiar with the Roku external control protocol (ECP) which includes functionality similar to DIAL. An experienced Roku developer may thus fairly ask the question "why do I need DIAL?" One reason is that you may already have a DIAL based second screen implementation for use with other platforms. DIAL support on the Roku platform means that you don't need to add a second protocol to your current application for discovery and launch.
The Roku DIAL SDK contains detailed documentation of Roku DIAL support, as well as BrightScript, Android, and iOS sample applications. In DIAL parlance, the BrightScript sample is the first screen application, and the Android and iOS apps are the second screen applications. These sample applications should help you get started with your own Roku DIAL support.
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How about sending a literal space char? POST /keypress/Lit_%20 HTTP/1.1 doesn't seem to work.
"\ " im sure with the escape char
URLEncode characters and it works great. URLEncode(" ") == "+"
Requests via i.e. javascript XmlHttpRequest appearantly don't work as this is a cross-domain request and there is no way to control Access-Control and/or Access-Control-Allow-Origin headers. Sigh, back to the drawing board for me then...
@Anonymous with cross-domain issues: I get around this by using a Raspberry Pi to serve up a mobile-optimised site that uses server-side Python to call the Roku (and other AV components controlled over HTTP)


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Starting to upgradr to HD receivers.
Posted 21 September 2008 - 12:48 PM
Posted 21 September 2008 - 07:27 PM
Generally, if you aren't currently under a commitment, and you have the last 12 months of paying on-time, you'll be offered a deal on the first receiver. Otherwise, you pony up.
Posted 21 September 2008 - 07:33 PM
I know currently new Dish customers can get 1 free HD DVR and free additional HD boxes. 1 additional DVR is $99. In my past dealings with D* they have at least given me something comparable for being a long time customer.
It doesn't hurt to ask. I've had success in the past. The worst they can say is no.
Posted 22 September 2008 - 05:01 AM
So there doesn't seem to be any predictablity to it at all.
Equipment includes a buncha stuff that I no longer have interest in detailing
Posted 22 September 2008 - 08:53 AM
So there doesn't seem to be any predictablity to it at all.
As several CSRs have noted, the #1 thing they look at when making offers is not "time with DirecTV?" or "size of programming package?" or "amount spent per month?" It is "how often is the bill paid on time?"
So, it IS fairly predictable, it's just that other folks are incorrectly giving too much weight to other factors and not enough to the primary metric.
Posted 22 September 2008 - 09:12 AM
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Posted 25 September 2008 - 04:34 PM
After getting bounced around to 3 people to try to remove the installation, the last one said the system will not let her put in just a drop shipment of the receiver. She says it requires someone to install it at a scheduled time.
I have installed my current setup, wiring and dish install myself. I told her I was going to install the latest HD dish later on. But no go. She would not budge.
I asked her what happen if I went out to Circuit City and bought the receiver there. She said I would have to have someone come and install it. Idiots.
So I canceled the order.
Posted 25 September 2008 - 04:42 PM
Posted 25 September 2008 - 04:47 PM
Posted 25 September 2008 - 04:48 PM
I just went through the same process. In three weeks I'll get an R22 SD-DVR and an HR* HD-DVR + an AM-21 tuner - all for $99+shipping. CSR's are as unique as stars in the sky when it comes to knowledge and experience. If you have a bad one - HANG UP and call back.
I am not looking forward to waiting either. I plan on calling the contractor that installed my current HR21 to see if they can do the install sooner than D* scheduled it for me. Check with some local installers and see what they say.


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will trade:
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