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Beverly Hills (MI) prospect Poet Thomas has a big frame and good athleticism. At 6-foot-6, 285-pounds the projected lineman moves well enough to play both center and power forward for his high school basketball team. It is that pure athleticism and talent that has led Coloraodo, Eastern Michigan, Florida, Toledo, Western Michigan, Old Dominion, and most recently SMU to offer the high school defensive tackle. "I have been talking to coach Bert Hill from SMU," said Thomas. "I have talked to him about three times and then they finally offered me tonight."
Though they just now got into the running, the big man says that the Mustangs are one of the few schools that are sticking out to him at the moment. Along with SMU, Thomas mentioned Florida and Colorado as sticking out to him. Here is what he had to say about each of the three schools:FLorida: "They are in there because that is was my favorite school growing up, they are like my dream school. That is the main reason that they are in there."Colorado: "I have been talking to their coaches almost weekly. He has been telling me that I could be a great offensive lineman and that he has put a few in the league so he knows I can go far. Where he is telling me I can go is where I want to be so that is why they are in there."SMU: "They are a school that makes me want to think a little more and do some research before I make my decision. I want to look more into what they have to offer because it seems like they have a lot to offer right now. They have also been telling me that I could play sooner if I was to commit there."This summer the Michigan native says that he will try to visit Florida, for their Friday Night Lights event, and Colorado in the same weekend. Along with those two schools the lineman says he also plans to visit SMU, Texas Tech, along with Western Michigan and possibly Toledo. "I want a school that has good academics. Somewhere that offers something that I want to do when I am older. Also a school that has a good football tradition and has won some big games and gone to big bowl games recently."
One of the hardest part about the soon-to-be senior's transition to the college level will be the fact that he will have to play a new position. At Country Day high school Thomas plays defensive tackle but ever college he has talked to wants him on the offensive side of the ball. "It would be nice if I could play defense in college but I have no problem play offense. I like the offensive side just as much as I live the defensive side. It is just going to be a learning process learning a new position."
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Hi Guys! My answer is 'Uncle Bud inventing the "machine' ". It's because if Uncle Bud hadn't created the machine, the aliens wouldn't be after the people on the ship. My reason for believing that is because the aliens didn't go after The General or Jack's Mom, they weren't with the special item. i'm not blaming Uncle Bud for making the contraption, how was he supposed to know that aliens would be after his machine? I think that he made it so that he could use it to get to his brother, Jack's dad, who I think is the one human on "Skreepia". I gotta go feed Wibur his afternoon snack now, so bye!


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I'm not getting the evidence that this is a former Tuschikage, why can't it be the first or second raikage, 1st,2nd,3rd mizukage, or even the first tuschikage. For the Kazekage, yes we saw statues of them, but since he is in bandages, he could be any of them either. SimAnt 23:34, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Although all logic suggests it is the Second Tsuchikage, I agree that there is no proof. At the very least, we should show the doubt in the wording of the article. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 23:36, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
- The logic does suggest it's the Second Tsuchikage. All the Kage brought back were the immediate predecessors of the current ones. Gaara was preceded by his father, A was preceded by the Third Raikage, Mei was preceded by Yagura. Logic says this guy preceded Ōnoki. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:52, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
Chapter 524 confirms it. —This unsigned comment was made by 220.127.116.11 (talk • contribs) .
I think it is safe to say that this Kage is a Tsuchikage. Kabuto revived all previous Kage, the Fourth Mizukage, Third Raikage, and the Fourth Kazekage. The First, Second, Third, and Fourth Hokages are unable to be summoned since they were sealed using the Dead Demon Consuming Seal, so the only Kage that is left is the Second Tsuchikage. This might be speculation, however, I think we have enough evidence to assume this is a Tsuchikage, even if we don't want to assume which Tsuchikage he is. ---Ten Tailed Fox talk page 16:54, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
- We need to wait for the next chapters. All our guesses will look like speculation, as you have already said. We still have a wide array of choices now. The First to Third Mizukage, First/Second Tsuchikage and First/Second Raikage. It is still unrevealed who was the body in 6th coffin that Kabuto summoned, right?Darkerratum (talk) 17:07, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
- It would be very odd if it was any of the other Kage. All of the other Kage that were revived were the immediate predecessors of the living Kage. For this mysterious Kage to somehow be another Kazekage, Mizukage, or Raikage would not only not fit with everyone else Kabuto summoned, but wouldn't make any sense what so ever. ---Ten Tailed Fox talk page 18:11, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
This Kage is the 2nd tsuchikage, because as said, all the previous Kage from the nations were resurrected: The Fourth Kazekage, the third Raikage, the Fourth Mizukage is already there because he is one of the Jinjuriki, and we know it is none of the Hokage, leaving only the tsuchikage left, I agree with you Ten tailed fox that is is him, but one thing you have wrong is that you said none of the hokage could be summoned because of the Dead demon seal which is false, because when orochimaru was fighting the Third hokage, he was about to summon the fourth in the third coffin --Sauske-Blaze (talk) 19:46, November 4, 2010 (UTC)Sauske-Blaze
- Even I am leaning towards it being a Tsuchikage, but as I've said, we need to wait for the next chapters to know. @Sauske-Blaze - Orochimaru summoning the yon(fourth) coffin was an anime-only, and it was not even put solid that it contained Minato since its contents were never revealed.Darkerratum (talk) 19:56, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
- Not a Kazekage. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 04:11, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
- I really don't think its being speculative if we can factually narrow down who it is. We know he isn't a Hokage or a Kazekage (due to the statues). That leaves a Mizukage, Raikage, or Tsuchikage. Kabuto stated that they were the current Kage's predecessors. Okay, well looking at what we have, Yagura has been summoned, the Third Raikage has been summoned, and so has the Fourth Kazekage. The only predecessor that leaves is the Second Tsuchikage. Now, I know Kishimoto isn't good with physics, but that doesn't make him stupid. It would be stupid of him to have brought back the predecessors of the current Mizukage, Raikage, and Kazekage, only to have this guy be another Mizukage, Raikage, or Kazekage and have the Tsuchikages all but unmentioned. I mean, I'd understand if Kabuto summoned a whole bunch or random ninja and not explained who they were, and then us saying its a Tsuchikage is speculation, but clearly there is enough factual evidence to say for sure that this is the Second Tsuchikage. Isn't there? ---Ten Tailed Fox talk page 04:51, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Even so there is enough evidence to point this towards the Second Tsuchikage. ---Ten Tailed Fox talk page 13:15, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
- For all we know Kishimoto-sensei has something special planned for the Tsuchikage and wishes to introduce them later on. We simply do not know, so we cannot say for certain if this is the Second Tsuchikage. However, I do believe it's safe to make a note saying that, since the other three kage summoned are the direct predecessors of the current Mizukage, Kazekage, and Raikage, it is likely this kage is the direct predecessor of the current Tsuchikage. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 13:29, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, he doesn't say "previous Kage". The term Kabuto uses is "元五影前任者", which means "the late predecessors of the Five Kages". Five Kages (Gokage) is the collective name for the leaders of the five villages at any given time. At present, the Gokage are Tsunade, Gaara, A, Mei, and O'onoki. He very, very clearly states that he summoned their predecessors. He wouldn't have used the collective term "Five Kages" otherwise. It doesn't refer to a Hokage, a Mizukage, a Kazekage, and two Raikages, one of which is dead, or whatever other combination would result in such nonsense. FF-Suzaku (talk) 20:42, December 26, 2010 (UTC)
Better Picture
I have a better picture of him. But I'm not going to upload it until I get the okay. It's the picture of him on page 17 of Chapter 524. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 23:12, January 20, 2011 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
is anyone else having problems with the pictures on this page??18.104.22.168 (talk) 05:21, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
- What exactly do you mean by that?--Cerez365™ 11:13, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
- I think the user has the same problem as I, there is no picture in the infobox, just the file name. This holds true for the yin-yang icon as well (on other pages, not this one). Jacce | Talk | Contributions 13:43, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
- Yea im having that problem as well, the profile picture is nothing but a name, maybe because the picture is too large??Vmejia (talk) 19:27, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
- All images in this page show up ok for me, but I'm not seeing the Yin-Yang icon in the pages it's supposed to appear as well. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:21, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
- Yea im having that problem as well, the profile picture is nothing but a name, maybe because the picture is too large??Vmejia (talk) 19:27, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
- I think the user has the same problem as I, there is no picture in the infobox, just the file name. This holds true for the yin-yang icon as well (on other pages, not this one). Jacce | Talk | Contributions 13:43, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
His name
I don't have the raw yet, so I can only assume, but I think his name is either Mu or the kana for his name are ムウ or むう and not 無, because that kanji is written as む and that means Mu and not Muu. What do you think? Seelentau 愛議 00:29, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
Literary Allusion
Now, this might be a stretch, but I got a hunch that Muu's ability to become invisible may be a reference to the H.G. Wells novel, The Invisible Man, whose main character, Griffin, an invisible man, is commonly depicted as wrapping his face (and, in some versions, his entire body, if I remember correctly) in bandages, not unlike Muu (although Griffin does it to be seen, while Muu's bandages can only be seen while he isn't invisible, something Griffin couldn't do). Might be a coincidence, but you never know, right? Teamrocketspy621 (talk) 00:41, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
- I was going to bring this up. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:44, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
Replace Kekkei Genkai
Should we replace it with Kekkei Tota in the info box? It is post to be a grade higher.Umishiru (talk) 06:30, January 27, 2011 (UTC)
Muu's invisability power is NOT hiding with camaflage. Last time I checked, H.W.C never hid your chakras, just your physical appearence. —This unsigned comment was made by 184.108.40.206 (talk • contribs) .
Infobox has gone again
Once again the infobox has gone a bit off. It's marking chakra sensing and sword twice and two of them are marked anime only for some reason. Just figured I'd draw attention to it in case nobody knew yet. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 10:12, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
- It's fixed or something apparently. --Cerez™☺ 12:14, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
Doesn't seem like it. -_-; Oh well, so long as someone is aware of the issue. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 12:53, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
- Well it's fine for me. Maybe you need to clear your cache.--Cerez™☺ 13:19, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
- I see it just fine. ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 13:21, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, must just be me then. How do I clear my cache, this is the first time something like this has come up for me. T~T --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 13:23, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
- What browser are you using? ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 13:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
- You're not the only one having problems. Google Chrome is having issues with it as well.--KiumaruHamachi (talk) 13:26, March 27, 2011 (UTC) KiumaruHamachi
I'm on Internet explorer. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 13:27, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
- For Internet explorer, go to Tools → Internet Options → under Browsing history in the general tab, click Delete → then select "Temporary internet files". ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 13:34, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
Nope, still reading two chakra sensing techniques and two swords one of each marked anime only. If it's not the cache maybe it's something to do with the browser itself, unless you guys are on the same at which point I have no idea, not to mention the Google Chrome thing... --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 13:43, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
Infobox ?
the infobox says it's anime,manga,movie and game only?why not change it then?—This unsigned comment was made by The tyrant kuma (talk • contribs) .
- Working fine for me might've just been a glitch.--Cerez365™☺ 10:46, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
Student of Oonoki?
According to the link, it seems that the Second Mizukage says that Muu is Oonoki's disciple? I thought it was confirmed that Muu taught Oonoki Jinton? Can someone clear this up for me? Daimyō (talk) 16:18, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
Think of it as "Your disciple, Onoki!?!" like he's stating his name as Mu's disciple.--Hohenheim ☯ Talk ☯ 16:30, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
Past appearance?
"When he was still alive, he donned what appeared to be a standard Iwagakure's flak jacket, with the village distinctive single sleeve on his left arm, and had two swords strapped to his back." When did we see him in the past? ZeroSD (talk) 15:34, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
- 525, page 15.--Cerez365™ 15:37, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
Flight technique
I think Mu uses the flight technique since he's attacking Onoki in "Mid-air" and that he was above Gaara and Onoki that was flying too. Cause i don't think that it's his Dust technique that's providing him with flight.--—This unsigned comment was made by Zakata (talk • contribs) .
- I'm assuming he's using the technique as well.--Cerez365™ 19:08, August 24, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, you can see what appears to be flight on this page http://www.mymangaspot.com/naruto/552/17/. I'm assuming we're going to wait until the next chapter for confirmation before adding it to his list? Skitts (talk) 22:00, August 24, 2011 (UTC)
Chapter 553- Last Words
So before Shounensuki's translation, I assumed that , Mū was trying to warn Ōnoki to take precautions for post war gain. I was just wondering if it's an issue if left as is in the article now or if we should change what's there.--Cerez365™ 22:03, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
- I think we should at least make note of the fact that his statement was cut short but otherwise it's fine as it is, as what he was actually alluding to still remains rather ambiguous in spite of having a correct translation. Blackstar1 (talk) 22:09, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
- After chapter 558, it seems much more likely that Mū was about to warn Ōnoki about the splitting. Kabuto hints to that in the beginning of said chapter. It is possible, though, that Ōnoki ignored his words because he was expecting more greedy 'post-war gain' drivel.--22.214.171.124 (talk) 19:12, December 7, 2011 (UTC)
Rasengan recongize.
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/553/4 Is it Muu or someone else who made that comment about the Rasengan?Umishiru (talk) 23:10, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
- See ShounenSuki's translation here. It isn't clear who says it, could Onoki, Naruto, or Mu.--Deva 27 23:12, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
Okay, thanks.Umishiru (talk) 23:21, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
Is there a reason he doesn't have the Summoning Technique in his jutsu list? Is it because he has only been shown to use it post-resurrection? The same goes for Pakura and Gari. Skitts (talk) 00:35, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
They did the tech under the orders of Kabuto not because it was a jutsu of their own. Think of it as Kabuto using the summoning jutsu through them. Besides they techincally summon edo's meaning Kabuto used edo tensei through Muu and whoever to bring more edo's to the field.Umishiru (talk) 00:39, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
Them doing it under the orders of another doesn't really change the fact that they used the technique... Skitts (talk) 00:54, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
Kabuto was doing it through them. Kimimaro mentioned feeling Oro's(and therefore Kabuto's) chakra flow through him. Since that applies to all edo's its reason to believe that chakra gives them the ability to summon other edo's when commanded.Umishiru (talk) 01:18, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
What we mean is that nothing suggests that Mū, Gari, or Pakura were ever able to use the Summoning Technique. That's simply Kabuto using the Summoning Technique through them in order to move resurrected shinobi through vast distances. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:45, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
Relation to Mizukage?
At the end of the most recent chapter Onoki made mention of the Mizukage using a technique of Muu's Ancestors, should a note be made that they're possibly related then? If only in the trivia. --184.108.40.206 (talk) 01:00, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
- That was big translation error it seems. From what Shounensuki said he saw from the raws, it was said it was a technique even Mū could do nothing about.--Cerez365™ 01:03, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
some things....
First, I told ya!!!!!!!! I knew Mu is alive (well, he is dead) Second, Why the's two "Mu splitting thechnique?? --thedasilva1 (talk) 02:04, 4 Octuber 2011 (UTC)
where is that chapter, can you confirm it?
Iowndisciti (talk) 18:55, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
"Kabuto's trump crad" Naruto chapter 557 --thedasilva1 (talk) 02:04, 4 Octuber 2011 (UTC)
You mean 558. And I have no idea whey there's the name the page was created in and it's redirect in the infobox. I deleted the redirect after making sure nothing linked to it, but that only made one link go away. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:06, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Hiding Like a Mole
Didn't Mū used Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique to hide himself, when he used his Splitting Technique? --Omojuze (talk) 18:57, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Noise Question
In the early pages of chapter 559, Mu was translated as making noises of discomfort. That was a result of his feeling Madara's chakra, right? Skitts (talk) 00:45, October 13, 2011 (UTC)
- In Shounen's translation says "Heheheh".--Deva 27 00:52, October 13, 2011 (UTC)
Ah, thanks. Skitts (talk) 01:04, October 13, 2011 (UTC)
Based on
In the trivia it mentions he might be based on the invisible man, with 2 similarities given, but no one's mentioned that he also looks exactly like Negative Man from DC Comics (actually the first thing I thought of when I first saw him), and negative man also has the ability to split himself in two, making the basis pretty much equally as plausible. I don't know if that merits mention in the trivia or not, but if others agree then someone go ahead and add it. —This unsigned comment was made by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs) .
- Much more emphasis is given to his invisibility than to his splitting, and I think many more people would have heard about the book character than about the comic book character. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:19, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
- Ah! That was the person I was trying to remember lol. I agree with Omni though. Most times it's far less likely for a character to be based on an American comic character. Though Negative Man's body is incapacitated after he "splits" so it more resembles sort of a "failed" Mind Body Switch than anything else.--Cerez365™ 12:35, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
- Doesn't his name also generally mean 'negative'? Or it means negative in math? I bring it up because when googling 'Mu' it's the first thing that comes up.—This unsigned comment was made by 184.108.40.206 (talk • contribs) .
- The direct translation we were given for "Mū" mostly relates to being non existent. I'm not too sure about the mathematical aspect if it has one.--Cerez365™ 11:42, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
- @126.96.36.199: No it doesn't and where did you find that? The only place where I found the term 'mu' in connection with the word 'negative' is in the Wikipedia article title, and if you actually read the article, you'll find that it was simply badly named, as it has little to nothing to do with anything negative. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 16:31, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
- The direct translation we were given for "Mū" mostly relates to being non existent. I'm not too sure about the mathematical aspect if it has one.--Cerez365™ 11:42, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
- Doesn't his name also generally mean 'negative'? Or it means negative in math? I bring it up because when googling 'Mu' it's the first thing that comes up.—This unsigned comment was made by 18.104.22.168 (talk • contribs) .
No swords
Why Muu resurrected without swords. Are they unique or what? --Nadmozg (talk) 02:45, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
- It's not a matter of unique, it's a matter of the fact that they were not part of his body. Unless Kabuto found the swords and gave them back to him or Mū can summon them, that's the only way he'd have the swords.--Cerez365™ 11:59, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
How great his invisibility is? I mean Byakugan or Sharingan could notice him or not? ISEN
- We don't know. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:59, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
Body Replacement
When Madara emerges from the coffin and Mū dodges the lid, it appears that he used Body Replacement Technique to dodge, since the coffin lid flew further away and there appears to be a half log that doesn't resemble the lid in shape or size sitting where Mu had been standing. TricksterKing (talk) 13:59, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, this one, it seems so. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me) 14:10, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
As shown in the previous panel of that page, the coffin lid fractures before it is propelled, meaning that supposed "half log" is far more likely to simply be some pieces of the broken lid. Blackstar1 (talk) 14:19, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
And I'm left wondering what the point of this was? A change to whatever is said in the Shinobi World War Arc section I assume? Skitts (talk) 14:27, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
- Yep. TricksterKing (talk) 00:00, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
Uhm, where would he get logs from? You're supposed to be take stuff from the surrounding area.--Cerez365™(talk) 16:47, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
The article for the technique doesn't mention anything like that, I'd assumed they just created/summoned the logs, since they've been shown using that technique regardless of the surrounding area. TricksterKing (talk) 00:00, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
- I suppose. i remember it being said the immediate environ though. However, Mū has been shown to have pretty decent reflexes and response time(s).--Cerez365™(talk) 14:00, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
Flight Techinique
Sorry, but I missed the time he had used it or someone mentioned that he can. There are somebody to tell it to me. MaskedManMadara (talk) 21:35, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
- Just before Naruto's clone arrives with Planetary Rasengan. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:41, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, I really missed that and again I forgot about the Only-to-question wiki that was created just for that. MaskedManMadara (talk) 23:02, January 31, 2013 (UTC)


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Isobu (磯撫, Isobu), more commonly known as the Three-Tails (三尾, Sanbi), is a tailed beast that was formerly sealed in Yagura of Kirigakure, after being sealed in Rin Nohara as part of Kirigakure's plan to attack Konohagakure. It has been captured by Deidara and Tobi, then sealed by Akatsuki. It was later resealed into a reincarnated Yagura during the Fourth Shinobi World War.[3]
Isobu first came into being in the waning days of the Sage of the Six Paths, who used his Creation of All Things ability to separate the Ten-Tails' chakra from its body and divide it into nine separate constructs that would come to be known as tailed beasts in order to ensure that it would never resurface after his death.[4][5] Some time after being created, the Sage sat down with all the young tailed beasts and told them that they would always be together, even when separated, and that one day they would become one entity again with different names and forms than they did. Then, when the time came, they would know what true power is.[6]
At some point in the past, Isobu, who was in the possession of Kirigakure, was sealed within a kidnapped Rin Nohara of Konohagakure. They plotted for Rin to be taken back to her village as a Trojan horse, releasing the tailed beast to wreak havoc in Konoha. This failed, however, as Rin was fully aware of their schemes and opted to kill herself at hands of Kakashi before their objectives could come to fruition.[7] Eventually, Isobu was revived and sealed within its next jinchūriki — Yagura, the Fourth Mizukage.[8] However when Akatsuki went after it, the turtle was in the wild; the story behind how it came to be like this is still unknown.
In the anime, Tsunade states that Isobu's disappearance happened after the Third Shinobi World War.[9]
Isobu speaks in a shy manner, referring to itself as 'boku' (ボク) which is usually used by young boys.
Isobu primarily resembles a large turtle, but with a crab-like shell, and three shrimp-like tails. Under its shell, it has red, muscle-like tissue. It has a pair of human-like arms and hands, but no hind-legs. Its lower jaw is rather big and has teeth-like horns, together with its big forehead, which also has horns, it somewhat resembles a mouth with big teeth, making it look like the rest of the face is inside the mouth. Its eyes are dark and have red pupils. In the anime, the eyes are red with green pupils. Its right eye is constantly closed, indicating some sort of injury, and because of this, it is particularly vulnerable to attacks directed at its right eye. During the last remaining days of the Sage of the Six Paths, Isobu was much smaller than it currently is but was still many times larger than the Sage.[6]
See also: Jinchūriki Forms
As a tailed beast, Isobu possesses an enormous amount of chakra and can perform the Tailed Beast Ball. It also has the ability to create coral, and swim at very high speeds. Tobi suggested that Kisame would have been a better choice for capturing the turtle, given its affinity for water.[10] Isobu has also been shown to be able to roll into a ball and attack its opponents, making full use of its shell and its many protrusions in a manner similar to the Akimichi clan's Spiked Human Bullet Tank.[11] Its tough skin and shell also provides additional defence for Isobu, allowing it to withstand nearly all forms of attack. In the anime, it was revealed that its only known physical weakness it possessed was its eye, as hard as its skin and armoured shell are, it cannot harden its eyes and so seems to keep one closed at all times.
In the anime, Isobu's abilities were greatly elaborated upon: it could create shockwaves to repel attacks and produce a large tidal wave that spread away from it in all directions; it could strike with any of its three spiked tails to break through most defences. With these abilities, it overwhelmed Guren's Crystal Release several times over the course of their battle. Of Isobu's more specialised abilities, it could produce a hallucinogenic mist that exploited the victim's insecurities and forced the victim to face them. It could also shoot powerful chakra-infused water balls. When it ate something, thousands of miniature versions of itself would attack what it had eaten within its stomach, presumably to speed up the digestion process. In addition to its anime appearance, the beast was shown capable of materialising an entrance to a separate dimension in which it could hide its presence, until it was ready to return.
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In the anime, Orochimaru instructed Kabuto Yakushi and Team Guren to take a young boy named Yūkimaru to a lake. After they arrived, Kabuto forced Yūkimaru to release all of his chakra, which caused the Three-Tails to begin to surface from the lake. With Guren's help, the beast was completely revealed, and they attempted to capture it. Their attempts proved insufficient, however, and the beast created a large tidal wave to wash its attackers away.
The tidal wave gained the attention of a nearby group of Konohagakure ninja, who tried to use Four-Corner Sealing Barrier to permanently trap the beast in its own dimension. Just as the sealing began to work, the Konoha ninja were interrupted by Guren, which prompted the beast to attack them all. Yūkimaru was able to calm the beast down temporarily, but, after he became tired, the Three-Tails turned its attention to him. Guren and Naruto Uzumaki came to his defence, but were swallowed in the process. With the help of their allies on the outside, they were able to escape, and the Konoha ninja tried once more to seal the beast.
Just when the sealing was almost complete, Yūkimaru, angered by the apparent death of Guren, empowered the beast to break free of its restraints. The Three-Tails went on a rampage, attacking everyone nearby and crushing Nurari, Kigiri, and Kihō. Its attempts to attack Yūkimaru, however, had no effect. It was only through the use of the Wind Release: Toad Oil Flame Bullet that the beast was driven away. The sealing attempt was left to ANBU members, and the remaining Konoha ninja returned home. Deidara and Tobi of Akatsuki soon found these ANBU members and disposed of them.
The beast's capture took place much earlier in the manga (at the start of the Hidan and Kakuzu Arc), but played out in much the same way as in the anime. Tobi and Deidara confronted the beast, to which it responded by beginning to chase Tobi. With the Three-Tails distracted, Deidara moulded an explosive clay fish in an attempt to capture it. It was unclear if this marked the end of the battle, as the remainder of the battle went unseen. As the two towed the Three-Tails to the Akatsuki's lair after the battle, Tobi gloated at bringing the Three-Tails down with his special technique, but Deidara thought otherwise. It was later sealed in the sealing statue.
Shinobi World War Arc
After Son Gokū is resealed into the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path, Tobi, who is intent on going all-out from this point on, forces Yagura to fully transform into the Three-Tails.[12]
Preparing to attack the shinobi, the Three-Tails along with the other four beasts create Tailed Beast Balls. These attacks however, are deflected by Naruto and they are rebuffed by a now fully-transformed Naruto. Wasting no time in their attacks, the Three-Tails evades Kurama's attack and then, rolling into a ball, attempts to attack the beast while Saiken had incapacitated it. It is however stopped by Gyūki. Freeing itself from the beast's grasp, it and the other opposing beasts prepare a collaborative Tailed Beast Ball which is met by one from Naruto and Kurama.
As Naruto enters a deeper plain of the tailed beasts' consciousness, Isobu (who remembers meeting him in the anime) introduces itself to the young man. Later, as the beast is freed from the chakra receiver it affirms Kurama's belief that Naruto was the person the Sage of the Six Paths had spoken about so long ago before being resealed into the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path.
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Although Isobu itself is not playable, Yagura takes on its form as his awakening in Naruto Shippūden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 3. Isobu also appears as a boss in Naruto Shippūden: Ninja Destiny 3.
- 'Isobu' (磯撫) literally means 'beach stroker', and is also an adaptation of the name of the Isonade (磯撫で).
- Turtles are often used as the base design for sea monsters in Japanese folklore. Isobu's design in particular was conceived as a result of the series creator, Masashi Kishimoto's, interest in monsters, yōkai, and kaijū, mixing together various elements of those types of creatures to create a monster with a turtle's body and a shrimp's tail with a crab-looking figure.
- Since Rin died without having Isobu extracted, Isobu is the first known tailed beast to have "died" and revived.
- ↑ Third Databook, pages 198-199
- ↑ Fourth Databook, pages 148-151
- ↑ Naruto chapter 565, page 1
- ↑ Naruto chapter 467, pages 15-16
- ↑ Naruto chapter 510, pages 11-12
- ↑ 6.0 6.1 Naruto chapter 572, pages 10-11
- ↑ Naruto chapter 629, pages 14-16
- ↑ Naruto chapter 507, page 15
- ↑ Naruto: Shippūden episode 100
- ↑ Naruto chapter 317, pages 1-4
- ↑ Naruto chapter 571, page 12
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Hikaru Tsuki (ツキヒカル, Tsuki Hikaru) is the son of the prince of the Land of the Moon, Michiru.
As a prince, Hikaru was a spoiled individual with selfish attitude. After having met Naruto Uzumaki, his personality changed drastically for the better showing great courage in the face of danger.
Hikaru is a young bespectacled boy with short, black hair and brown eyes. He wore a white outfit with blue, triangular trimmings held closed by a simple sash, a pair of pants and brown boots. He also carried a quiver of arrows slung over his back.
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Naruto was angered by his attitude that he once held. After saving Chamū from a storm, he befriended Naruto and the others. After his grandfather's death, he promised Naruto that, when he becomes the leader, the Land of the Moon will stand by Konohagakure. A day later, Shabadaba's henchmen were attacking while he and his father were trying to escape from the island. Naruto defeated them after entering his initial jinchūriki form form, but failed to prevent Shabadaba's henchmen from kidnapping Michiru. At the castle, Hikaru was given special arrows that he was forced to use to cut the rope which his father was hanging from. He helped push his father towards Ishidate, who Naruto then defeated with his Crescent Moon Rasengan. As his friends left, his father pointed out that he realised he had to protect the people he loves.
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I wanted to know, people said
"Once the 680 comes out, the 570 card builds should be lowered in price"
so far, i don't see it happening yet, i just want to confirm this fact.
anyone see their rig dropped by a bit yet?
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|Quote Reply Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 8:30am
Alex did say a few days ago the price on 570's might stay the same until their inventory lowers. They need to charge according to what they paid.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 10:38am
Prices for the GTX 570/580 won't drop for a while as we have to clear inventory. The price drops will not be that large.
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I was playing with the configurator, and I noticed that the price difference between the "no thanks I'll install my own" and gtx 6802GB was $690. I thought this was supposed to be a sub $500 card. Did I do the math wrong or is the markup really that aggressive?
In unrelated news, what happened to the raven? Did your new vertical cooling offering displace it?
Now all we need is the new intel chips to ship and everything will be roses.
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The Raven is a older chassis so we replaced it with newer offerings.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 12:33pm
I am ordering a new pc soon and i am confused why the 680s cost the extra 190 dollars as you said they are 500 dollar cards because of this i cannot afford sli. :(
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|Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 12:52pm
the markup is confusing, especially if you look at the 7970 which retail is 50$ more than the 680. but here at DS the 680 is 50$ more than the 7970.
doesn't make sense.
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Wondering that too. Supply and demand I suppose. Limited supply right now so DS can charge a premium for those willing to pay for the latest and greatest.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 1:07pm
I can understand wanting to charge a premium and making extra money because the card is in limited supply but is 190 extra pushing that just a bit when the card averages for 500? I think i might wait for the card to drop some more now actually like to 500 or 550ish before i order a brand new pc and maybe then i can get sli who knows....
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|Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 1:31pm
i can understand the supply and demand stuff, but when the competetion ( wont name but you know who i am talking about) is charging less for the 680 than the 580, thats a big difference
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|Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 2:17pm
You can't do the configurator that way. DS has to install and test the GPU and the cost you are seeing probably reflects that. Pricing a computer is not a simple thing and prices have to reflect cost and profit. The one thing that DS has to base their prices on is how much they paid for this batch of 680s. We have to expect some premium since it is so new.
The 680 is only priced $36 more than the 580 3Gb. Well worth it in my mind.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 2:36pm
I agree with Frank. To order a Pc without a gpu means DS has to install a gpu,test the rig and then uninstall the gpu. That has to cost extra. Plus, $55 more for the 680 over the 7970 is also well worth it. We can't expect DS to charge what newegg, forexample charges for parts. DS assembles, tests and supports what they sell and have to turn a reasonable profit, otherwise they wouldn't be here.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 3:33pm
that makes sense to a point in my opinion, ya 55$ more than the 7970 is worth it performance wise. why would they charge more for the 680 when its a cheaper priced card than the 7970? doesn't make sense. especially when the competition is pricing the card properly, some are even making it cheaper than the 580.
i agree that they shouldn't charge newegg pricing if they did that they would go out of business right away lol. but charging 690$ for a 499$ card is a little much in my opinion.
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I'll say this, as someone who just purchased a pretty expensive rig from DS with SLI 680's: Yes, the mark-up is high for the 680, however, when you take into consideration the entire price for the computer, it is either competitive or less than any reputable builder (my use of the word reputable eliminates a few lower priced competitors due to a large number of negative reviews).
I could price out a lower priced computer using the same parts I chose for my own rig. That would relegate me to -------------- and -------------- , who I would never purchase from. I've seen their computers, they are atrocious.
Now, while other reputable builders may offer the 680 for less money, the overall cost of the system is higher. Warranty, other parts besides the GPU, they all add up, and I find at the end of the day they are a worse value than Digital Storm.
While some of them may price slightly lower for parts, most don't include the comprehensive 3 year warranty without extra cost, and many of the lower priced 680's end up costing more overall when valuating the entire computer.
I've purchased computers from DS before. They build them properly and they provide excellent customer service. I understand the shock value of the mark-up might be a deterrent, but you really should look at all the factors before using that as a reason not to buy from DS. Just to reiterate, I priced my exact same computer at 3 "competitors," who all offered the 680 for less, and the price was still a few hundred dollars more than DS.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 11:48pm
oh i would never suggest ---------- or -------------- lol, i dont even know how those places are still in business. im sure alex will be here soon to edit out their names lol :P
it may hold true on your system but from the sounds of it your system was a lot higher end build $$$ wise which ds does do pretty good at. its the mid range where they loose badly. i priced out 3 different rigs with the 680 on some of the better competitors in the $2000-$3000 range and with the exact same parts, 3 year warranties etc they came out to be ~ $400 less. not saying anyone should go with them, cause they are no better or worse than DS. just simply pointing out the price differences. i just wish there was a company that would provide the quality parts/customer service etc without being so greedy, now that would be a succesful business! lol
look forward to hearing what kind of fps and performance you get jmo!
To get back to the original post, i don't see why DS wouldn't drop the price of the 570 (after they sell off their supply they paid more for) since the pricing of the card itself has dropped and will continue dropping.
[EDIT: Competitor names removed - Alex]
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|Quote Reply Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 12:51pm
Prices are determined on various factors. Supply versus demand is a strong factor, there is a short supply on the GTX 680's which drives up the price. In addition, we only update the prices after inventory is refreshed with lower priced items. In addition, each item has a higher/lower failure rate, items with higher failure rates are marked up higher to cover customer support/warranty, etc... There's also installation, testing, etc... There's a lot that gets put into a price than simply just buying a card and comparing it to someone like NewEgg's pricing model or any e-tailer.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 1:00am
that makes sense on a new product, but on an existing product that you have all ready priced accordingly (building, shipping, testing cost, failure rate etc etc) all that is changing now is how much it costs you to get the card. lets say the card drops 40$ in price, why would you continue to charge the same price you did before? to me that is just being selfish.
and as i said before i understand charging the same for current stock, but when you replenish the prices should drop.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 1:20am
Well, what Alex was saying is, that since they have to build computers, they have to buy those vid cards before hand, meaning that they have to stock up the 570s (at least a number of them)
so when they get them before the 680 came out, they woulda gotten it at the higher price (since 680 didn't come out yet), but when 680 came out, sure the price drop, but that didn't mean that their acquisition price of the ones they already have in inventory go down.
they still bought it at the high price from before.
So if they have sold all the ones they bought from the high original price and they start to buy more 570 at the new lower price, we may see the price drop :(
so of course, the question is, how much inventory do they have and would they really switch down the price quickly when that happens or still keep the mark up the way it is?
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|Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 1:24am
I really hope they have some kinda sale soon though..dying here LOL
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|Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 1:31am
ya and like i said in multiple posts i agree with them selling current stock at normal pricing lol, its just when they re up there is literally no reason they shouldn't drop the price on them. besides greed. that's basically what i am getting at lol
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|Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 9:48am
Moving thread to "Hardware Discussion" as this is not a post in regards to help with a configuration.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 2:44pm
Only thing I have to say is, "Wake up people, DS has bills to pay!"
They have to pay their employees, they have to pay for shipping, they have to pay for each part they repair or replace for Three Years, they have to pay for their facility, water, electric, etc. This is not greed, this is called running a business! Lol
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|Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 3:24pm
insta ban? thats cool lol. like i have said like 10 times now, i understand them having to pay bills. all that i am saying is AS OF NOW the only thing that has changed is the cost for them to get the card. THATS IT, no other changes.
let me try to use an analogy you guys might be able to understand. lets say with the recent 570 price drop, newegg never dropped their price when they started getting the card for 40$ cheaper. would that be fair? no. DS is doing the same thing here.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 5:05pm
The issue is with you calling them greedy, not with your idea.
It's supply and demand. If people are willing to pay 690 for a card that's their decision and their problem, not Digital Storm's. You do not have to buy a card from them -- nobody does.
Newegg is also a completely different beast than a place like Digital Storm. Apples and oranges, really.
I'm also not sure why you're talking about "fairness." Businesses don't exist to be fair, they exist to make money. Newegg drops their prices with the market because that's what makes them the most money by drawing the most customers, not because that's what's fair. If you think that what is "fair" matters at all in the business world I think you and I are on very different planets.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 5:53pm
k fine, you guys just continue getting ripped off. not my problem just trying to help out the consumer by pointing out some obvious mis-pricing.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 5:07pm
Because you view something one way does not mean the rest of the market views it that way. You need to become aware of some things before you "think" you are the market Messiah.
Yes, as stated above, this is a capitalistic society. Here in America a business has the right to make a profit. As mentioned above, every business operates with overhead, and every business owner(s) have the right to set personal margins to offset that overhead. It is up to the market, you and I, to place a value perceived perspective on any given commodity and/or product that is on the market for sale. Your one opinionated view of a business's margins, or their retail pricing, does not change the reality of what actually takes place in the market.
You have a choice. You can choose to purchase from a retailer, or not. It is, after all, your choice. A business's initiative in the marketplace does not change your right to choose, rather it markets to that taste and attitude which leads toward your choice. If you choose to purchase from another retailer, your choice not to buy from DS does not mean the "way" they market their product(s) is wrong. It simply means that you choose to purchase from someone else that you "feel" has your best interest in mind. Purchasing on feelings does not change the reality of the way a retailer goes to market. It simply means that you are lead by a feeling, and an ignorant view of how retailers go to market.
It's ok for you to believe what you believe based on the little bit you most likely know about retail markets, but you cannot expect people that do understand retail markets to believe your view. The American retail market is a very diverse market and you have to be careful when summing up one given retailer's "way" of doing business because your expectation is based on a general overall perspective of greed in the marketplace.
What you may see as greedy can simply be a very aggressive margin set by a retailer. That doesn't make it or wrong, and of course, you do have a choice.
Only in America!
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|Quote Reply Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 12:54pm
and i agree with you on that edh63, but as you and everyone else seems to be missing. that is not my point lol.
all of that makes sense when you first release a product ie the 680. i dont agree with the really high price but thats not what i am complaining about.
what i have been saying in my last few posts are about the 570 pricing. they have all ready done all there adjustments for profit and overhead etc. I am simply stating with the recent launch of the 680 this has drove down the cost of the 580/570. and i don't understand why DS is saying they won't be dropping the price of the 570, when literally every competitor of ds/ all retailers have followed suite in dropping the price.
And just an fyi ed i do have a very good understanding of the market, unlike 90% of the companies out there i believe in making a profit but at the same time providing customer satisfaction when it comes to pricing. if you become a business that ignores making customers happy with the pricing and just charges whatever you damn well please, is not good business practice. yes there still will be customers willing to pay the price regardless of what it is, but the majority of consumers look for the better price. and when you consistently charge more than everyone else for a decent system you are cutting yourself out of the majority of the market.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 10:12pm
I understand your angst, but when you use broad statements like, " the majority of consumers look for the better price. and when you consistently charge more than everyone else for a decent system you are cutting yourself out of the majority of the market", you would actually need to quantify that with some solid data to convince people that what you're saying actually is cutting them out of the majority of the market to that degree. Broad statements vs. actual quantifiable data.
You see, I don't believe that because one, you can't quantify "everybody" with a number, and two, DS is selling their product, so it seems, without the reservations you have about this affecting those sales. That doesn't negate your personal feeling about this and the way you feel about this is important. I believe your passion drives your heart and intellect and that will move you toward a decision. That's ok, bro. What you think has value, so it shouldn't be discounted or diminished. However, you coming here and approaching a company this way that has the right to do business how they choose is really the only thing that others may see as inappropriate. The best way you make your point in a free market to a retailer that you're unhappy with is just not buying their product. If you really want to make an intelligent and mature impact, then that's how you go about this. I'm just saying, my friend, go about this the right way so you look good in the end. Leave the impact and exit on a high note.
Don't stop believing in the right things, though. But remember, the right things can also be construed differently according to personal perspective. Talking things through with the desire to see a good end result is the way to come to a sensible conclusion so that there is a better understanding of all the choices that are made, on both sides of the fence. I really don't think DS is out to screw the market. Does that really make good business sense to commit market suicide? No, it doesn't.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 11:32pm
They wont be dropping prices because the GTX 680 really isn't widely available yet. As long as I have been a DS fan they haven't really reflected Newegg prices. But they are the best sytem builder as far as service is concerned IMHO.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 8:29pm
Interesting fact incoming.
I own 4 Alienw.. systems, 2 Cyberp and 1 IBuyP.
All of them.. just come undone in real world usage.
I do not care, not one bit about how great they look, how much their parts costed me in the config or how fast I get the system.
What I do care about is this...
When they DO fall apart in real world usage - and they will.. I care the company helps me out.
Listen, this isn't a flame but you can't use DS and quotes like " if you become a business that ignores making customers happy with the pricing and just charges whatever you damn well please, is not good business practice." in the same paragraph let alone sentence.
These people -are the definition- of customer service.
Their techs call from their own home, on their own time sometimes. (Read the customer feedback forums) I asked AW TODAY if I could mail my PC in at my own cost (has 173 days left of warranty on it) because it blue screened 16 times in the last 2 days. They said: "No, we are going to send you parts based on your DESCRIPTION of your problem.." verified my address and hung up. Just like that.
I called DS a few weeks ago and ran my build by them..
They said I should switch out processors because the other processor they recommend was CHEAPER and I wouldnt notice the difference.
Other companies sell their configs with serious issues and don't tell you about possible issues.
With other companies you are buying a name.
With Digital Storm - you buy quality.
... and with that - that is worth the extra little bit of money for the 460, 470, 480 the 1080p the 43923231 or any other number of part, card or reader you wanna put in there.
Not hating on your opinion - just stating mine.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 11:58am
To further the points already made, amazon's cheapest offering of the 680 is now $618.
The cost of labor + the stress testing + tech support (HUGE in high end machines) is worth the overhead to me. Also, anyone who is scoundrelling on price this much has no need for the latest and greatest in a professionally built custom machine.
If you're only focused on price, you're welcome to an off the shelf, factory line slapped together machine. You'll also recieve a Walmart quality computer. Try buying their bike helmets for your kid sometime.
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|Quote Reply Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 12:54pm
Like LaneHayes said, the labor and testing alone not to mention great customer service more than warrants the price.
Hell, before I ordered my build I priced out every single part for the cheapest I could find each and it was barely over $100 more for Digital Storm to build, test, ship, and throw in a warranty. I don't have to deal with any bad parts through the retailer or god forbid manufacturer, Digital Storm will walk you through the process, replace any bad parts, and offer life time customer care on all of there builds.
If you want to save a couple hundred dollars on a machine that may not even work or on parts that cannot be guaranteed then go ahead and purchase from these cheaper retailers. Maybe you will get lucky but to me its not worth wasting $2000+ to have a glorified doorstop.
I love Newegg as much as the next person for the prices but cheaper isn't always better.
Digital Storm will keep making quality builds for competitive and reasonable prices, they will keep having great customer service, and they will keep myself and many others coming back.
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- The Research Handout, "Identifying a Scholarly Journal" is located in "In Help and How To...". Locate it and read item number 7 then complete this sentence: "Articles in journals often begin with brief summaries or _____________ of the contents."
- The information icon (the "i" within a blue circle) is found beside the titles of databases in "I Need to Find..." > "Journal & Magazine Articles (Databases)". This icon links to:
- When searching the LRC electronic catalog at "I Need to Find . . ." > "Books, Videos or eBooks", it is possible to search for all items (books, ebooks, audio-visual material, and articles) at once or to specify what materials to search by using the:
- By clicking on "Borrow an item from another library (ILL)" you may