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Huntington scored 22 points off IU Kokomo turnovers while the Cougars cashed in on ten points from HU miscues but the real difference in the contest came in the paint where HU outscored their visitors 52-18.
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Your description of traffic reminds me of my time in Manila and other the Philippine cites. Not only was the traffic as insane as you describe, but traffic lights were also in short supply.
Yeah, same here - very few traffic lights. I was also told it's the same in Bangkok, and I imagine in cities in India too. I also forgot to mention the noise - horns constantly blaring, and loud vehicles. I've heard something about in England (I think) and some other Euro cities they've done experiments of completely doing away with all traffic rules in some areas and accidents rates have dropped by 50%! Suddenly everyone has to take care because no-one has right of way.
Thanks again Alilou for the blog. Great reading. Trips sounds fantastic.
When you are up to your arse in alligators it is difficult to remember you were only meant to be draining the swamp.
Now there's an interesting concept. But I an hesitant to trust it, I'm already a timid driver and people are always honking at me for not being more aggressive. For example, I prefer not to be one of two cars turning left during rush hour when you end up waiting until the light turns red. I'd rather just bide my time and wait for the next light change.
[QUOTE=Japanfan;2765933]Now there's an interesting concept. But I an hesitant to trust it, I'm already a timid driver and people are always honking at me for not being more aggressive.
Japanfan you would just die trying to drive here . I think you'd be run over in 5 seconds. It's not your kind of driving at all.
Alilou - I'm not sure if you are Vincent's (UMBS Go Blue) list for the Skate America group purchase ticket?
He is putting together his order for Skate America tomorrow. PM him you want to be included. Looks like most of us are going for the 'Gold' package, it's $200.
The last post on the Skate American thread in Great Skate Debate gives the details and PM link.
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Thanks for the heads up - sent you a pm re this.
The next installment of my blog is done
We are back in Vancouver. I'm really tired and must try to sleep now. It was an amazing journey.
It's the sixth and final installment - the conclusion of our journey with more about Hanoi, and our trip to Ha Long Bay.
It's been a great pleasure doing this. It's reawakened my joy of writing, and I've discovered a whole new joy of photography. I only did it because some friends asked if we'd be emailing progress reports and photos. And at the "Not-at-Worlds" dinner (just 2 weeks before we left) some of the Vancouver FSUers asked if I'd be posting about our trip. Well I guess I didn't need to be asked twice
My niece created my blog for me back in 2004. This was before I had a computer or a digital camera! I wanted to be able to send pictures of our Vancouver apartment to my sisters in Oz. And I hadn't used it since - until this trip. I even had to phone back to Vancouver to get the user name and password so I could get into it
Anyway I'm glad it was there as it turned out to be the best way to share our adventures with everyone.
I hope you enjoyed it.
(BTW UMBS Go Blue - I already have SA tickets, but thanks for thinking of me. I've sent you 2 PM's (on 25 May and 30 May) so I'm wondering if PM's are not getting through to you for some reason )
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Thanks so much for posting all these Alilou. Sounds like a great trip. Love the photos of Ha Long Bay.
Question - do those monoliths in Ha Long Bay every fall over? They kind of remind me of the 12 Apostles and the west coast of Victoria here where the coast seems very fragile. But those ones look very secure, even with a tiny bit holding them to the base.
When you are up to your arse in alligators it is difficult to remember you were only meant to be draining the swamp.
Thanks so much for bringing your "adventure" alive for us.
It was a pleasure to share it with you!
You're welcome. It's been so fun to do it.
And it seems I just can't stop
There is a new blog entry up - about Vancouver. Since I'm not travelling ATM I thought I'd write about my own city as if I'm a tourist here. It helps me see it with new eyes. And it's a great excuse to take pictures
I hike at the UBC Endowment Lands often, Alilou, and also enjoy the North Shore hikes - especially Lynn Valley.
To anyone visiting here: there are some great walks in the rainforest here that are likely not mentioned in standard tourist guides.
Thanks, alilou!
I spent one of the best vacations of my life in Vancouver.
You reminded me of why I love/miss the city so much.
Yes, it's a good good city in many ways. I feel very lucky to live here.
Japanfan, Lynn Valley's a great place to hike - we go over there now and then. Now we seem finally to be getting summer maybe we'll head over that way again soon. But first the hammock in the tree..........
Vancouver is such a beautiful city. I don't how I was able to live in cities with no sea and no mountains before moving here!
I am on the move again
Right now we're in Italy to be followed by maybe Spain later in the Fall. No specific plans past Oct 17, except to return to Vancouver Dec 6 to leave time to get visas for India, followed by a family Christmas in Montreal, then off to India in January.
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For a native New Englander living in California, it's been great to keep up with the Sox through your comments on NESN (thanks to DirecTV) and your stories and mailbag on the Internet. We've heard about how Youk is working hard at his defense at first and the results have been obvious in the sox' first dozen games -- he's been better than expected by all accounts. On the other hand ... Wily Mo has been Wily Less in the field -- making us fans cringe when the ball is hit in his direction. What is being done to make Wily less of an adventure? Presumably, he doesn't need to be encouraged to take batting practice, though his efforts aren't showing much progress in that department either. Even though we accept that he is a "work in progress," trading Bronson Arroyo (and getting stuck with David Wells and his 'tude) for Pena and his defensive deficits and Bellhorn-like tendency to strike out will continue to be questioned by Red Sox Nation. Looking forward to seeing you and the Sox during the 2 trips to Oak-town after the All-Star break!
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A: Pam, you know we always look forward to hitting the Coast, too. Pena, I have to admit, has been worse defensively than I had been led to believe, though it was a tipoff when Reds manager Jerry Narron, after the trade, said the Reds were better defensively moving slow-footed Adam Dunn to left to take Pena's place. Sox coach Bill Haselman is working regularly with Pena on his outfield play, and Papa Jack, Ron Jackson, has been doing extra work in the cage with Pena, but it is truly a work in progress, one with an uncertain outcome. The potential is enticing, though.
Gordon ... In trading for Wily Mo Pena, do you think it worried Theo at all that Pena, having signed a major league contract at the ridiculous age of 17, ran out of minor league options years ago? Because I think what you want in a fourth outfielder, primarily, is solid defense. That's why Gabe Kapler is so valuable. Now the Sox are stuck with a spare part who's fundamentally unsound in the outfield (a dangerous weakness given Trot Nixon's fragile health) and undisciplined at the plate, making him a poor option as a regular pinch hitter. In the end, he's an atypical Theo player and, I think, a waste of bench space. What do you think they'll do with him?
Paul Duggan, Washington, D.C.
A: Paul, it's a very good question, because the minute they stick him on waivers, someone will grab him. Kapler, of course, appears nowhere close to a return, and it would seem Pena is going nowhere, meaning the Sox may have to carry a fifth outfielder, like Dustan Mohr, instead of a 12th pitcher.
Hey Gordon, greetings from Charm City. I like what the Sox have done with their contracts, which stands in contrast to what the O's have done with Melvin Mora. Anyway, given the way Kevin Youkilis has started the season and filled in the leadoff spot it got me thinking that he would also be a great number two hitter. Do you think the Red Sox would consider moving him to this spot once Coco Crisp returns?
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A: Justin, the thing that Sox fans find most charming about Baltimore these days is that there are always plenty of seats available for the Sox fans who flood the city whenever the Sox are there. The O's negotiations with Mora are more reminiscent of Sox past dealings, with Damon, Pedro, and Lowe, e.g. But as far as Youkilis hitting in the 2-hole, I think the Sox feel Mark Loretta is ideally suited in that spot, and that Youkilis will be of greater value lower in the order, in a run-producing capacity. It certainly wouldn't surprise me to see him move out of the 8-hole.
I am a fan of your mailbag and I appreciate your insight. The new-look Red Sox are very exciting and the last offseason might after all be the turning point in the years to come. I am writing this at a point when the Red Sox are 5-0 on one run games. Last year the Nationals were in a similar scenario; when they won most of the one-run games before the All-Star break. However, after that, the law of averages caught up with them and they ran out of gas. I just want to be cautiously optimistic. I don' t expect a blowout every game, but is it really healthy to have so many one-run games?
R. Nathan, Malden
A: R-Nate, there is a randomness to one-run games that is a little scary. The Tigers in 2003, for example, won 51 percent of their one-run games and lost 119 overall. The Sox in '04 won 47 percent of their one-run games and won the World series, In 1995, the Giants were 17-1 in one-run games and finished 4th, 10 games under .500. The same year, the Indians were 19-2 in one-run affairs and went to the World Series. Go figure. There's luck involved, and randomness, but stats do show that over time, good teams tend to win more one-run games than bad. The Nationals were ridiculous last season; On July 8, they were 24-8 in one-run games; then after the All-Star break they lost eight one-run games in a row and finished 30-31 in one-run games.
Gordon, I like your articles, but are you under the impression that the period is an endangered species? Some of your sentences run longer than Boston Marathoners. (I'm donating my next period for your next column_)
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A: There are numerous reasons why you might be uninformed of my appreciation for the period -- my frequent use of dashes, for example, or sentences that could run from foul pole to foul pole and still have words left over (in discussing grammar, I always find that the use of baseball metaphors comes in handy), or the way I occasionally throw in parenthetical asides that stray far from the original thought and could probably stand alone as a separate observation, but if I did that, then I wouldn't be able to use commas, which appear to be the punctuation mark of which I am fondest, given the number of times that I'll throw one in, where admittedly a period might have been of more benefit to my readers, who are occasionally left to wonder if they'll run out of oxygen before they come to the conclusion of whatever it is I'm trying to say, which presumably was worth the time they took to read it. Periods: God made 'em for a purpose, and God knows that one day I'll learn why. Thanks.
Why don't the Sox keep Stern up instead of sending him down in a week or two? Terry Francona said they want to get him some at bats to see what he can do but why? They are set with Wily Mo Pena, Manny Ramirez and Coco Crisp long term. Stern is their best defensive option right now so why not keep him here?
Jake McElligott, Irrigon, Ore.
A: Adam Stern hasn't had 400 at-bats in a season since 2002, when he was with Myrtle Beach (S.C.) in the Class A Carolina League. Last season, he had just 96 at-bats, 81 with Pawtucket, 15 with the Red Sox. The Sox want to establish whether Stern has the ability to be a productive, every-day big leaguer, and the only way to do so is to have him play every day someplace. That's why, when Crisp is healthy, Stern is likely to go down to Pawtucket. And, off the early returns on Wily Mo, I wouldn't say that the Sox are set "long-term" on anything.
You're the only hope I have in getting this message across. The Sox almost lost tonight because of an idiot move by Francona. Mike Timlin [Fran wrote something that means inhales deeply] when he inherits runners. We all know this. Timlin should only come in at the start of an inning. Matt Clement never should have started the eighth inning in his last start. Please grab Terry by the collar and tell him not to allow this any more.
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A: I can tell you that Terry Francona probably wouldn't take too kindly to me grabbing him by the collar, or any other part of his uniform, unless I wish to experience the sensation of being pinned up against the wall in the manager's office, which I don't. That said, you raise a legitimate question, one which I could not proffer myself since I was not covering Tuesday night's game. The facts are these: Timlin, as you note, has not pitched well with runners on base. He led the majors in percentage of inherited runners scoring, as 56.2 percent of the runners he inherited, 18 of 32, crossed the plate. That number in his years with the Red Sox is 40.5 percent, 53 of 131. The stats support your premise that he pitches much better from the start of an inning. So why, then, didn't that happen Tuesday? My best guess is because Matt Clement entered the eighth inning having thrown just 96 pitches, and in the judgment of Francona and pitching coach Al Nipper had plenty left. He'd handled Travis Lee, the first batter in the eighth, pretty easily over the course of his career (7 for 32, .219, one EXBH, a double), and with a two-run lead, they felt comfortable letting him open the eighth. But when he walked Lee on four pitches, that set off warning bells, and prompted the summons for Timlin. That didn't work out, as you passionately noted, though Timlin came away with the W for the second straight day, and in the 900th appearance of his career.
I was hoping you might address something that has puzzled me greatly. Far too often I've seen visiting teams steal third base against the Sox, the frequency of which must greatly outnumber third base thefts by Sox runners. Now I know that the Sox are built for power and not for speed (though it seems that this year's edition has more get up and go than in the past). I also know we have Tim Wakefield, who might be one of if not the easiest pitcher to steal on in the majors. Do you have any idea how often visiting runners have stolen third base against the Sox and how often they are thrown out? It feels like the answer to this two-part question should be 1) A lot; and 2) never. The Yanks love to pull that one on us, and it makes for a big difference when, with less than two outs, a pinstriper steals third and now can score on a sac fly rather than just a base hit. Thanks for your time and keep up the excellent analyses.
Matt Englander, Roxbury
A: Matt, I had searched all my statistical databases and employed the services of the Sox crack PR staff, but was unable to come up with that number. But then I contacted Seymour Siwoff, the Babe Ruth of statisticians, and he tracked it down. Sox opponents stole third base 16 times last season, and once so far this season. I don't have the caught stealing number, but I suspect "never" comes pretty close. I can tell you the Sox, since the start of '05, have stolen third four times -- once each by Alex Cora, Manny, Edgar Renteria and Adam Stern. Coco Crisp has been caught once.
I was just wondering if Jonathan Papelbon was considered a rookie this year or did he spend to much time here last year. Thanks so much, LOVE your columns.
Pam L., Boston
A: Papelbon still qualifies as a rookie. Here's the rule: "A player shall be considered a rookie unless, during a previous season or seasons, he had a) exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the major leagues; or b) accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a major league club or clubs during the period of a 25-player limit (excluding time in the military service and time on the disabled list). Papelbon pitched 34 innings last season, well short of the rookie limit, and while his service time is 64 days, nearly half of that came after rosters were expanded from 25 to 40 players on Sept. 1.
I haven't seen a whole lot of press about Bud Selig announcing his retirement 4 YEARS from now, is anyone talking about this? Is it just me, or does this look extremely arrogant to announce something like that 4 years in advance? Does he really believe it will take 4 years to replace him? Enough already ... about 4 months. As far as I'm concerned Selig can ride off into the sunset now (and take Bonds with him, please!)
Darren Hurlburt, Portland, Maine
A: Darren, in 2003, at a convention of sports editors, Bud said he wouldn't seek another term when this one ran out in December, "no question." Well, clearly, he's had a change of heart, though I'm not sure what announcement you're referring to. I do know he's on record as saying he intends to leave in 2009 -- he'll turn 75 that year -- and despite the steroid scandal, I can assure you the vast majority of owners prefer to keep Bud in his present seat. Baseball is riding a great wave of profit and popularity right now, and for the first time in three decades has experienced some labor peace as well, and Selig deserves much of the credit. Depending on where this steroid investigation leads, Selig could yet be forced to step aside, but while it is clear he has made some mistakes and could have been more aggressive in attacking the problem, I reject the conspiracy theorists who argue Selig looked the other way deliberately because he didn't want anything to take away from the Great Home Run Chase of '98. Now, the George Mitchell investigation may yet prove otherwise, but remember, at that time the players' union was vehemently opposed to any form of testing. In balance, Selig, whose greatest strength is as a consensus builder, may well be remembered as one of the game's great commissioners, though steroids could well become what the Viet Nam war was to LBJ, the stain that obscured everything else he has accomplished.
You may have seen where Baseball Prospectus has done an analysis of pitching rotations and concluded that employing a four-man rotation (with homage to Earl Weaver) can be the optimal usage with certain pitcher-types and close monitoring of pitch counts. Having some apparent bullpen depth and with David Wells's uncertain status, could you envision the Red Sox considering a four-man pitching rotation? Has that idea ever been floated in discussions? Thanks for the mailbag ...
Matt Scully, San Diego
A: Matt, there's too much age in the Sox rotation to even entertain the idea, and given the Sox commitment to pitch counts and protecting their investments, I can say the idea has not been seriously considered on Yawkey Way.
I have a question concerning the current depth of the Red Sox, and its effect on the lineup. The Red Sox have quite a few guys that are able to come off the bench, and I've noticed that Francona has not been afraid of switching up the lineup for a game or two depending on a pitching match up. For example Alex Cora, Wily Mo Pena, Adam Stern, and Dustan Mohr have all seen significant playing time in one series or another, this granted that Coco is injured. However, do you think that we will continue to see Francona switch up the lineup for a game or two in a series, to either give guys time off or match up against a pitcher? Or will we begin to see solidified starter roles set in place as we get deeper into the season?
Peter Tympanick, Millville
A: Peter, as you noted, much of the playing time you cite was due to the injuries to Coco Crisp and also Trot Nixon, who missed most of a week. Francona will continue to platoon Pena with Nixon in right field, and Bard will catch Tim Wakefield, and Cora may get more playing time at short if Gonzalez doesn't hit. I can easily see the Sox trying to upgrade offensively at short at the break. But in general, Terry prefers to use a regular lineup as much as he can, while keeping his regulars fresh and bench guys sharp.
I love that MLB.TV provides me with a real link to the Red Sox, even while I'm in New Orleans. Do you know how they determine which team's broadcast will be picked up on any given day? I can never be sure whether I'll get the NESN broadcast, or the feed from the Sox' opponent. There are a lot of days where Don and Jerry are a very welcome addition to the recovery process. Thanks.
Mark Newberg, New Orleans
A: Mark, I'm not certain how that's determined, but as a subscriber to MLB.TV myself, I like the opportunity to hear the other broadcasters on occasion, for a different perspective.
Gordo, With news of David Wells's visit to the 15 day DL, I have to say I nor RSN should be surprised. I was aghast at the enormity of his size while getting lit up by the Jays in his first start. At age 42 and coming off knee surgery, one would think that a key part of Wells's preparation for a successful return includes a dietary regimen that would help mitigate stress on his fragile knee. Apparently the buffet line is more important than his pitching line! I'm a little disappointed in Sox management for overlooking such a critical element to Wells's successful return -- his weight! I hate to think we are witnessing another player in the twilight of his career reaching beyond his physical capabilities only to get caught in a humiliating overnight collapse. Your thoughts?
Chris Lamarre, North Adams
A: Chris, It has been a long time since Wells wore anything other than XXL. Remember in 2003, when he mocked the virtues of working out, then left his World Series start against the Marlins with back spasms after just an inning? He's always been blessed with a healthy arm and what they call "pitching shape,'' but the bad knees supporting way too much girth may finally have caught up with him.
Hi Gordon. Purely hypothetical question: Suppose you, the manager, have a pitcher with an incentive-laden contract based on number of starts. He's coming off surgery and needs another 2-3 weeks in Triple-A to get ready. Fastball topping out at 84, that sort of thing. Nevertheless, he demands to pitch. What would you do? Just curious. Your pal, Wayne.
Wayne Roberge, Troy, NY
A: Wayne, it's amazing, how your hypotheticals seem to approximate life its ownself. You couldn't possibly be alluding to David Wells, could you? There are lots of veterans who would have exercised the same prerogative, and in this case, I believe both the Sox and Wells thought he'd do better in his first start; remember how quickly he turned it around last year? But his knees obviously were in worse shape than he either recognized, or was willing to acknowledge.
Can you tell me which players on the Red Sox roster were free agents when they came to Boston?
Marvin Aldridge, Ormond Beach, Fla.
A: Sure, Marvin. Alex Gonzalez, the shortstop; J.T, Snow, the first baseman; Manny Ramirez, the left fielder; David Ortiz, the DH; Dustan Mohr, the backup outfielder; Matt Clement, the starting pitcher; Keith Foulke, the erstwhile closer; Mike Timlin, the reliever; Rudy Seanez, the reliever; Julian Tavarez, the reliever; Jermaine Van Buren, the reliever (6-year minor league free agent). I think that's everyone on the active roster.
Sorry Gordon, I don't think your statistical analysis ended this debate about Mo Vaughn and Nomar Garciaparra. Yes, Mo still hit a few dingers as he dwindled, but he was obviously not the same player. I think he got paid for two seasons in which he could no longer physically compete (the numbers don't show this of course), but it proves he was an elite player who just fell flat on his face, without warning, like Nomar. Nomar's decline is so similar, 8ish years of domination, then freak accidents and random injuries have turned him into a workmen's comp case collecting checks in front of the TV getting ready to do the "where are they now" interview with the local newpaper's intern. No, seriously, after a few years pass Nomar will be remembered as a superb player, like Vaughn is remembered, these seemingly twilight years of player's careers always get forgotten. See, even you forgot about Mo's. Thanks for taking my comments.
Frank, Cheshire, Conn.
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Until a couple of years ago I worked for a Fortune 500 high tech company. Can't say the name (although possibly they're based in San Jose and it wouldn't surprise me if their name rhymes with a popular brand of cooking oil).
Anyway, shortly before my own departure, this other guy whom I'd never met left the company and sent this farewell email to all 30,000+ employees. If you work in high tech, or for any megalomart corporation, you may get a kick out of it. This is the actual text. I just blanked out names. There's such a fine line between stupid and brilliant.
__________________________________________________ _________
------ Forwarded Message
From: "***** ***** (****)" <****@****.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 07:05:28 -0600
To: ***** ******** <*****@*****.com>
Subject: FW: Goodbye
This was sent to the entire US mailer. Apparently HR/IT intercepted/recalled
most of them before a lot of folks got them. I got it forwarded. J
Read it. It is pretty bad, but its a shame that somebody that was here that long
and last year got an FY09 achiever award felt that way.
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:37 PM
To: *****-flame (mailer list)
Subject: Fwd: Goodbye
Now this is how you exit stage right....
From: ******* ********(*********)
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:59 PM
To: sales-fed (mailer list); sales-eng (mailer list); sales-mgrs (mailer list); us-all (mailer list)
Subject: Goodbye
Well it is finally my turn to be sooo arrogant that I send a goodbye message to a HUGE alias thinking like more than 2 of them give a crap wheeeeeeeeeeeee
Also, after finishing reading this please reply all with your warmest wishes so once again the other 99.9% of the people who could care less about you or I and happen to be on this alias have to see how nice you are to my goodbye and maybe we can get a email spam thread going (reply all please remove me from this list reply all STOP replying all .) that will crash *****s servers. If nothing else, it always provides hilarity to the 40% of ***** that are still part of that saying on your badge Quality Team. Anyway, I am hoping it is 40%, I had my days especially the last 5 years or so, where I would see people like ***** ****** or *** ****** in place and think to myself ..nope weve gotten so big we are going for bottom 10% now.
On to the goodbye:
I have been at ***** for 16 years (6 days) </insert emotionally heartfelt goodbye, good feelings all around, and general good cheer here></end of bs>
And really enjoyed 15 of them, really worked 8, maybe 12 depending on your work ethic, of them, really believed in ***** for 7.5 of them, really had some good times, but most importantly really met some great all around people, that helped to offset the buttheads I had to put up with other times, really wished HR never invented PC crap so people could have continued to call idiots idiots; ooops I digress, we have a bigger HR than payroll staff so we all know where ***** cares about.
Tuesday is my last day at *****. I can receive your emails to my personal account at: *****.*****@gmail.com or you can find me on facebook if you know me and have 2 brain cells to rub together.
If you dont know me, too bad you missed out on a great guy (mwhahahahahaha), if you do know me, Im sorry you had to put up with me, if you knew me before I hit my 10 year anniversary at ***** and prior to the HR and PC jerkwads sucking all the fun or putting the FU in fun however you want to look at it, then we probably had some good times and feel free to contact me.
Speaking of anniversaries, I would just like to take this moment to really thank ***** from the bottom of my heart for giving me 3 GIANT Marbles for 15 years of service, plus the huge plastic stand to go with them. You really let me know what I meant to the company with that one, and to whoever the nepotistic POS in HR is that got their uncle or cousin or whatever the monster paycheck for making giant balls for ***** ..truly I wish you step in a pile of dog crap every day for a month!
With that goodbye, adieu, auvedersain .ok dont know how to spell the rest of them. Im out
What a dick
Work with your company often... Always a shame when long tenured employees get shafted but I think someone his age should have sought a higher road...
HR won't plan your career.
Borgo's farewell was better.
San Jose? Sony Computer doesn't rhyme with Crisco?
I always felt it best not to burn bridges and go out with class. But hey, that's just me. In a hundred years (or after 12-22, depending on what you believe) it won't matter anyway.
I read the title and thought Bushy was leaving JI.
Color me disappointed.
I sometimes wonder about HR people. I had an interview at a local credit union and the HR person wore business attire and her tight skirt had a slit in it. During the interview, she had her leg folded under her, exposing her upper thigh through the slit. It was pretty distracting although I did my best to act like I didn't notice. I must've done a pretty good job b/c I didn't get called back.
Seems like a guy I worked with who relished smoking in his office, cursing like a sailor and making innappropriate comments to chicks...he's been stuck in the same spot for years past the point where he should have been promoted out of there...and is lucky to have a job honestly. He is an EEO/OSHA nightmare lawsuit waiting to happen...but I have no doubt he would blame the job if he ever got jammed up.
(oh, and I loved the guy, he is a friggin p*sser, thanks Chief!)


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Either one would make a perfect title. Spikydurian inspired me to ask ali dorate to start the new thread when she called ali a true blue fan.
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I've seen this and kind of disagree with some of the rankings, without to much shuffling, i'll swap TT and Mullens
If you were unaware, ESPN has been doing it's second installment of their #NBARank feature. According to them, this is how our Bobcats stack up to the rest of the league:
#474 Cory Higgins
#464 Matt Carroll
#440 Gana Diop
#416 Jeff Taylor
#317 Byron Mullens
#283 Reggie Williams
#259 Brendan Haywood
#253 Tyrus Thomas
#222 Bismack Biyombo
#199 Kemba Walker
#184 Gerald Henderson
#154 Ben Gordon
#146 Ramon Sessions
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is thus far unranked, so they believe he is already our best player.
Let's see if we here at BCP agree. So cast your votes for who YOU think is the best Bobcat on the team. We'll work our way down from #1 to see how we view the team.
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I've seen this and kind of disagree with some of the rankings, without to much shuffling, i'll swap TT and Mullens
Even with just the 1 SL game for a basis I think MKG "is" our best player. It's really early tho as he could feasibly have an injury history similar to Oden.
Hard for me to buy Sessions over Gordon or Hendo though...but stats (esp. in Hendo's case) very well could back that up.
At any rate, I expect Dunlap to mess those NBA rankings all up. Hendo, Biz & Kemba all have a chance to push that a lot and I'd love to see Mully jump about 150 spots over the season.
Hope Resurrected: "I think I can bring an attitude to a team as far as, All right, no matter what, we are not losing this game'." - Kemba Walker
"Its okay to be bad; just so long as you're bad ass." - Keetch
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The point of this project isn't to critique the ESPN lists, just to see how we vote in relation to the "national media".
All we're doing right now is picking the best Bobcat. We'll work our way down the list to the Higgins and Carroll's of the world.
For me, Hendo gets my vote as the best player on the team right now. I would like to say MKG, but until he plays more than 1 game in a uniform, I can't do it since I have nothing to compare them to
Does any one knows where D.J. Augustin stands on this list? I would like to see how far he and sessions are apart.
My vote goes for Hendo until we actually get to see MKG play some meaningful games.
Probably should've gone MKG but went Kemba instead.
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Its impossible to tell right now. MKG hasn't played a game and were basing Ramon and Ben Gordon off of their prior performances on other teams. People are always gonna do things like these polls but all I can honestly say is our best player is Henderson until I see atleast 2 to 4 games with this roster.
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931 Harrisburg Ave
Lancaster, PA 17603
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Contemporary American
$31 to $50
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Gibraltar Details
Dining Style:
Casual Elegant
(717) 397-2790
Hours of Operation:
Lunch: Monday - Friday: 11:30am - 2:30pm; Dinner: Monday - Thursday: 5:00pm - 10:00pm, Friday - Saturday: 5:00pm - 11:00pm, Sunday: 5:00pm - 9:00pm
Payment Options:
AMEX, Diners Club, Discover, MasterCard, Visa
Contemporary American, Modern European, Seafood
Executive Chef:
Carl Vitale
Dress Code:
Smart Casual
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Additional Details:
Banquet/Private Rooms, Bar Dining, Bar/Lounge, Beer, Entertainment, Farm to Table, Full Bar, Happy Hour, Late Night, Non-Smoking Area, Non-Smoking Restaurant, Patio/Outdoor Dining, Personal wines welcome (corkage fee applies), Smoking Area (patio only), Takeout, Wheelchair Access, Wine, Wine Bar
More than anything else, food has the power to make or break your event. That's why people turn to Lancaster's top restaurant. We excel at everything from elegant weddings and formal events, to business luncheons and holiday parties, to casual mixers and outdoor picnics. Our approach is simple…You tell us what you want, and we make it happen, so don't leave your party to chance.
Private Party Facilities:
Gibraltar offers a semi-private dining room with seating for up to 50 guests.
Private Party Contact:
Anne Jamison (717) 397-2790
Be sure to check out the chic AquaBar lounge for a great list of exquisitely prepared cocktails and a great selection of wines by-the-glass
Getting there
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A word from Gibraltar
New American, Mediterranean Influenced, Locally Inspired… Gibraltar delivers an extraordinary dining experience for any occasion or for no occasion at all. Offering smart, casual elegance in the relaxed manner reminiscent of a seaside Mediterranean resort, spacious, window-lined dining rooms and a
beautiful garden patio provide the perfect setting. Boasting a near perfect ZAGAT food rating of (27/30 - '10 Philly Survey) the cuisine at Gibraltar is as beautifully presented as it is delicious. Inspired by the seasons, utilizing the finest ingredients, at the peak of freshness, from the fertile PA Dutch Country and around the globe, line-caught, wild fish and shellfish flown in daily, prime beef, local organic poultry, lamb and fresh local produce, Chef Vitale and his staff create delicious and inspired dishes. A Wine Spectator "Award of Excellence" winning wine list offers nearly 350 selections to further enhance your experience at Gibraltar.
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Diner Reviews
We were not very happy with our
experience at Gibraltar when we went for my birthday dinner. It was during the week at 6:45pm , only 3 of us and the service was very slow. It took about 30 minutes for someone to come over and ask if we had been waited on and if we wanted water or drinks. It appeared that there was not enough wait staff because they were really running around. The food was good when it did come, but it took away from the experience that we felt treated as an after thought. Never have had that problem there before, always were very pleased. I don't know if we would go back, just appeared very disorganized. We were very close to leaving and we HAVE NEVER done that."
Dined on 3/6/2014
Seated immediately, restaurant not
crowded. 15minutes afetr we get there our watress stops and says I'll be with you soon. 15 minutes later she returns for drink orders. A slow-down after that. I don't want to be rushed, but the delays and length of waiting was ridiculous. Empty drink glasses on the table. We even pushed them to the front of the table hoping they would be seen. Finally asked if we wanted refills. And really - pictures of the desserts on your phone along with a selfie eting a dessert? No, that wasn't a diner - it was the server! Maybe appropriate for a diner but not a fancy restaurant. Food was very good but service left a bad taste."
Dined on 3/8/2014
We have been to Gibraltar several
times and have never been disappointed. The food is always fantastic and I highly recommend trying one of their seafood specials for the evening - one of my favorite restaurants."
Dined on 3/1/2014
An upscale restaurant with
excellent food, good wine, very nice beer selection. The food is prepared to perfection and to your liking. Very nice menu with many selections. Also, great choice of appetizers to enhance your main course. We were very pleased with the service. Atmosphere was a great setting for a romantic evening.."
Dined on 2/28/2014
Service slow and irregular. Food,
drinks and wine very good. Noise level was a unpleasant."
Dined on 2/22/2014
First visit to this Resturant and
we are looking forward to another. Great hostess, waitress and staff. Dinners were excellent and menu had a nice balance of choices and not overwhelming. The atmosphere was great and tables spacing allows room for private conversation. This is a Resturant that you won't be disappointed with. Enjoy!"
Dined on 2/22/2014
Birthday celebration dinner.
Waitstaff attentive- food awesome! Great night"
Dined on 2/16/2014
We were visiting Lancaster for the
weekend of my husband's birthday and he wanted a steak for his birthday dinner. I called Gibralter and asked a out their menu. To my surprise the chef, Chef Vitale came to the phone to say they had just received their shipment t of kobe beef and although it was not on the evening menu he would certainly offer it to us. It was delicious and the chef personally came over to us to wish my husband a happy birthday. By the way I had the tuna which was equally as delicious. A wonderful experience."
Dined on 2/21/2014
I had visited Gibraltor in the
summer time with a group for dinner and thoroughly enjoyed it. It reminded me of Havana Blue in St. Thomas. Decided to return for a lunch with friends and again the meal was delicious. I ordered the chicken and egg plant panini with vegetables and it was definitely one I would recommend. One of my favorite restaurants for food and ambience in the Lancaster area."
Dined on 2/17/2014
this was the worst dinner .the
server left us sitting so long that we had to ask for someone to take our order.there dinner was late poor drink selection."
Dined on 2/15/2014
Gibraltar's food is consistently
the best in Lancaster. Top quality, inventive and delicious. We were there on Valentine's weekend so it was very very busy but the food was excellent. Our waiter looked a little overworked - just because of the volume of tables that night. He was charming and very professional and as attentive as was humanly possible that night. Try the seared diver scallops - no one else does them like Gibraltar."
Dined on 2/15/2014
We dined at Gibralta the day after
Valentine's Day, so restaurant we busy when were seated for our 7:15 reservation. We waited close to 20 mins. before anyone came to our table. People arriving after us had their bread and drinks before we did. By the time our meal arrived the restaurant was clearing out. No one came by to check on us and waited half hour before someone did and asked for our check. We were offered complimentary dessert which we declined. We were given the wrong check, they did take the 2cocktails we ordered off the bill. We have dined here before and had excellent service...the food is outstanding."
Dined on 2/15/2014
My husband and I met some friends
at Gibraltar's for dinner. Our reservation was for 8:30 PM. We were promptly seated in the bar area. At first I was disappointed but after a little while the atmosphere of the bar side of the restaurant grew on me and we really enjoyed our time. We enjoyed the oysters as an appetizer. Delicious! Service was a bit slow so we waited quite awhile for our entrees. Our server repeatedly apologized for the delay. She was very attentive. Our meals eventually came and I'm happy to say that everything exceeded our expectations!"
Dined on 2/15/2014
Hostess friendly, nice atmosphere.
1st time experience. Sadly, service was slow. Our dining experience took over 2 hours and we had to ask waiter to take order. Once ordered, food was delivered quickly and to our liking. Food presentation nice, overall food quality excellent. Diners ordered calamari, salad, filet, chicken and scallops….Delicious! One diner ordered crab cakes which was not to their liking…..loaded with red pepper. Two of us tried them and agreed. We also ordered dessert, choc/PB cake and petite fours. Desserts good but felt presentation, considering Valentine's Day, was a little lacking. Good location with lots of parking available. We all agreed we would return, but would avoid crab cakes and possibly the waiter."
Dined on 2/14/2014
My Valentine's dinner with my
girlfriend here was one of the best dinners I've ever had out. The salmon was perfect. The flavor, the presentation, everything was perfect. My girlfriend had the gnocchi. The beef in it practically melted in your mouth. Our waitress was friendly and attentive. She was always there when we needed her and gave us space when we didnt. I highly recommend Gibraltar to anyone looking to have a marvelous dinner."
Dined on 2/14/2014
We were lucky enough to score a
reservation for Valentines's day at the very last minute. The food was, as always, excellent, and our waitress was very good. We love this restaurant for a special occasion."
Dined on 2/14/2014
We asked for our favorite server,
and he did serve us. However, they appeared to be so short-handed that the servers were frantically running around trying to bus the tables and prepare for the next guest. This was not enjoyable at all! We had the filet and crab cake special. The filet was Ok, but the crab cake was profoundly disappointing. For a $40+ entree, I was expecting lump and not backfin meat. it was smothered in some type of sauce that did nothing for it."
Dined on 2/14/2014
We celebrated my daughter's 16th
birthday - everyone enjoyed everything!"
Dined on 2/9/2014
I am a 20 year old college student
who has much experience in serving. I was extremely disappointed in my service, especially because I was recommended this restaurant solely because of the great service that was provided. I brought my best friend here to celebrate her birthday and she and I agree that we felt nothing but belittled the entire time. Our waiter was very unenthusiastic and seemed angry that we were there possibly because he assumed he wouldn't be getting a good tip. As for the food it was OK. The lobster was very overdone and I was not at all impressed. I do however think I would come here again because I believe in second chances. Hopefully my second time is better."
Dined on 2/8/2014
Went to Gibraltar's to celebrate
my husband's birthday. Everything was perfect. It was a snowy Sunday night and the restaurant was practically empty. This was to our benefit. We had super service and our meals were delivered promptly. We asked if we could have tapas at our table and the server said it is restricted to the bar but she would check since they were not busy. She quickly returned and said her manager was happy to accommodate our request. Hubby even got a birthday dessert with a lit candle. So special!"
Dined on 1/26/2014
I love this place for special
occasions. The wait staff is professional but friendly and helpful. They allow you to set the pace of your meal but keep an eye on the water glasses and any needs you might have but don't hover. Tony, our waiter, even noticed it was a special occasion and added a candle to our dessert -- very understated but a lovely thought. It is an elegant setting. The bar, although quiet, has imaginative martinis and tasty tapas."
Dined on 2/4/2014
I was not at all please with my
experience at Gibralter. The service was very slow and unattentive. We all had empty water glasses, needed new drinks and had to ask twice to get a replacement knife. The hostess didn't even acknowledge us when we got to the restaurant because she was busy hanging up coats and seating other people (maybe they should get a 2nd host on Saturdays?) When the food finally came it was okay but not worth the wait. When we were finished eating we sat for 25 minutes without being offered coffee or dessert and ultimately had to chase down our server to get our check. It took over two hours to eat and we were not planning for a long-leisurely dinner. I will not be returning on a Saturday night anytime soon."
Dined on 2/1/2014
Had a pleasant experience w/ great
food and surroundings. Service was slow to start because of a mix up among servers, but when it was straightened out our service was excellent. They even compensated us w/ a round of drinks on the house. They made us feel important and special............and the food was HOT when it came out which was important to us. Thumbs up!"
Dined on 2/1/2014
I grew up in Lancaster and after
11 years of school and residency, returned. The food is still delicious. I had the lobster pasta and my his and the steak. He reported it was one of the best steaks he's had in a while. The mussels appetizer was delicious. The only minor disappointment was the molten chocolate cake. It was good, but I think I am spoiled by the richness of Morton's version."
Dined on 1/25/2014
Visited this restaurant this past
weekend for a birthday dinner for my friend. I ensured that I called ahead to ask about birthday celebrations and was told they would make a note that we were celebrating a birthday, and jazz up his dessert. They forgot! When we arrived at the restaurant, we were not even properly greeted. The host pointed at us as if to say "Yeah?". Our server was attentive enough, but her colleagues let her down on several occasions. We were not given bread until we asked, we were brought incorrect orders, including an alcoholic beverage when we asked for non-alcoholic. The food, when it arrived, was delicious. I would recommend this restaurant to those who don't mind paying a little more for good food but poor service."
Dined on 1/18/2014
The food was interesting and
excellent ,, as usual ,, the service was very slow on the main dishes ,, as usual However, for the first time in 12 years ,, the server acknowledged it ,, apologized and offer free glasses of wine .. Food is always great,, but after all these years ,, think the service should be corrected"
Dined on 1/18/2014
We love the food there and my Dad
always gets the oysters as his main meal. Love their bread and the rest of the entrees we had were extremely delicious. Will go back!"
Dined on 1/15/2014
This is a common choice for my
husband and I because you are always guaranteed a good meal and drinks. My favorite is the mussels and the filet, very good!"
Dined on 9/28/2013
Food was great, service top-notch,
pleasant greeters and servers the best, very attentive but not overly so."
Dined on 1/11/2014
This evening at our favorite
restaurant was one of the most vibrant experiences that we have had at Gibraltar. Our foursome arrived for our 8 PM reservation, our table was ready along with our favorite waitress, Abbie. We finally realized that we needed to leave in order to get to our house before the ball dropped, it was 11:30. The service was Outstanding, the food was Exceptional, the atmosphere was "the best", and Chef Carl made sure that every dish that was served was an artistic masterpiece. There is no other restaurant that i could recommend with so much enthusiasm."
Dined on 12/31/2013
Attentive service, perhaps a bit
too enthusiastic and chatty, but the opposite is of course much worse. This was a snowy January night and the room was only 1/2 full. Exactly why we braved the weather to go somewhere that we might not have gone otherwise. Clearly a special occasion place, judging by the birthday photos taken and one marriage proposal. Food was tuna - almost rare for me at waiters recommendation - and european sea bass for her. Both yummy with novel seasonings/sides."
Dined on 1/3/2014
Unfortunately the dish I wanted
they did not have, so it was disappointing. My family got what they wanted and the dishes were very good. I had to ask for another one which was not my preferred. The wait was longer than expected and we were very hungry. Overall it was good but could have been better."
Dined on 12/31/2013
We dine at Gibraltar on New Year's
Eve. The place was crowded. However, we waited only about 5 minutes and we were seated promptly. Waitress came almost immediately to explain and take our orders. I ordered variations on all of the courses. Everything was prepared correctly and was served on time. Service and food were excellent; even though, there was a huge crowd. I would definitely go back again."
Dined on 12/31/2013
In an unassuming college type
building beside the aquatic center at Franklin and Marshall college, Gibraltar restaurant turns out reliably spectacular cuisine. Fish is their strongest offering - always perfectly cooked, beautifully sauced and with inventive sides. Branzino, black cod, sea bass - all are spectacultar. Pasta is great too - their gnocchi is the best we have ever had - eclipsing a small restaurant in LA which was our favorite for 8 years. Cocktails are mixed with an intelligent hand - they have a appealing bar on its own. Waitstaff are knowledgable and friendly - but never too friendly."
Dined on 12/27/2013
Chose Gibraltar to celebrate
anniversary Unfamiliar with area Called for directions Should take 30 min. Reached Harrisburg Pike Drove along Pike looking for Harrisburg Avenue Couldn't find it Called Gibraltar again Told that Harrisburg Pike sometimes called Harrisburg Avenue. Restaurant near F and M College Found the college and saw no sign of the restaurant Saw a couple asked if they knew the restaurant They did It was in the Wells Fargo building A good thing to tell customers when giving them directions It took us 11/2 hours Manager unapologetic Meal good Service not Waiter attentive at beginning waned midway Appetizer served promptly waited for salad Entrees arrived before salad was eaten Very rushed Chef gets B+ front of the house C"
Dined on 12/24/2013
Excellent attentive service,
perfectly timed wait for dinner. Our entrees were excellent. Nice selection of wine & the Lancaster Brewery Winter Warmer-Yum!"
Dined on 12/23/2013
Our dining experience,
specifically service, was poor. Initial drink order incorrect, kids entree order incorrect, server dropped a glass of wine, waited 30 minutes to receive check and was given wrong check. The food was good, but not a great place to bring kids. The kid menu was very limited and the selections were not thought out for the average kid. This was disappointing for a family Christmas Eve dinner. I would not recommend this restaurant for a family with children."
Dined on 12/24/2013
We live in Lancaster, been to
Gibralbars a few times in our 13 years here?....again, LOVED IT! It is a bit $$$ BUT well worth it if you're looking for great seafood ..I won't try taking any of your meat eating friends. There isn't much to choose from. Great bar atmosphere. They also serve a Tapas menu, which I have only heard is awesome as well. If you go and it isn't busy at all, don't let that scare you..try it you won't be disappointed! Joanne P."
Dined on 12/24/2013
Food was terrific. Non seafood
entrees were wonderful, thankfully. The main complaint is the decor- the ceiling looks like a basement remodel--the cheap, drop-down ceiling tiles. Yuck--just not the atmosphere you'd want for a nice occasion meal out. And the both in which my husband and I sat was uncomfortable--the circular base of the table was awkwardly blocking my feet, and the bench in the booth shook every time the dinner at the booth behind us (this we shared a backing) moved. Uncomfortable, and annoying."
Dined on 12/22/2013
Small selection of food, but what
we ordered tasted great. Great seafood. The salads were different than what we were expecting, but very good. Definitely reccomend trying them. Large selection of drinks, but we didn't order any, so I can't comment on their quality. Friendly service. Dim lighting and a nice quiet atmosphere when we were there. Good for a date night."
Dined on 12/22/2013
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