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Though the bill aims to crack down on sex trafficking and protect survivors, critics say it threatens the lives and livelihoods of sex workers who choose to work in the profession by encouraging websites like Craigslist to censor their content -- pushing some sex workers back out to the street and removing their tools for finding and screening clients. Some sex workers are already losing their housing as a direct result of forums like Craigslist personals going dark, according to Christa B.
Daring, board president of the Sex Workers Outreach Project. Many pay rent week-to-week and struggle to feed themselves and their children, they said. Craigslist was the first site Stark used to transition away from the street, where she relied on her military training to make "snap judgments" to stay out of harm's way, dodge potentially dangerous clients and avoid getting arrested -- again.
Even with the advantage of her military training, however, "most often, physical appearance and demeanor really don't tell you a whole lot," she said. Many sex workers run background checks on clients, communicate through online forums and check "bad date lists," which sex workers create to warn others about hostile clients. Stark also has a mandatory hour waiting period before she agrees to meet clients, giving her time to check for criminal records and other warning signs.
She learned ways to stay safe and grow her business from other sex workers online, some of whom keep blogs. We can mentor each other. We can support each other. We can screen our clients," said Akynos. Bolstering these concerns about sex worker safety is a recent research paper -- still under peer review -- that suggests Craigslist's "erotic" services section may be linked to a drop in the female homicide rate. Prostitutes speak out against Senate health bill. I don't think Waco had one.
But Craigslist didn't launch this section in every city at the same time. Cunningham's team found that cities where Craigslist launched the section for erotic services reduced their female homicide rate by up to However, it is not possible to say what portion of those homicide victims were sex workers, Cunningham said, nor is it possible to prove that Craigslist was directly responsible for the dip. This reduction wasn't seen for other types of homicides Cunningham analyzed.
The research gives quantitative insight into what is likely to happen in the wake of the new bill, he said. Some of them go back to working for a pimp. Some of them, maybe they advertise on the dark web. Limited information exists on the number of sex workers in the United States, including illegal acts of prostitution. Many definitions of sex work include a broader variety of services beyond prostitution, such as "erotic performances.
Akynos expects that black sex workers will be some of the hardest hit by the anti-trafficking legislation. She recently founded a group called the Black Sex Worker Collective to "help facilitate sex workers who may be looking to exit the business, as well as support those that are in the business.
We're already criminalized in so many more ways than white people are, period," said Akynos, who specified that she was not talking about sex work alone.
What is going to happen to us as a whole? The bill's supporters, including 97 senators who voted for the legislation, say it will give law enforcement tools in the fight against sex trafficking and enable survivors and their families to seek justice in the court system. The bill followed a two-year Senate investigation into online sex trafficking on the classified ads site Backpage.
The investigation, led by bill co-sponsors Sens. Rob Portman and Claire McCaskill, found that Backpage knowingly aided criminal sex trafficking of women and young girls, scrubbing terms from ads such as "Lolita," "teenage," "rape" and "amber alert" and publishing them on its site.
Anti-trafficking organizations around the world. The investigation led Backpage to shut down its adult ads section. The site was seized by federal law enforcement agencies Friday, and on Monday the Justice Department announced that seven people have been indicted on 93 counts related to facilitating prostitution and money laundering.
Ron Wyden, one of only two senators to vote against the new bill, said in February that it would paradoxically "make it harder to catch bad actors and protect victims by driving this vile crime to shadowy corners of society that are harder for law enforcement to reach. Roughly 6, sex trafficking cases were reported to the National Human Trafficking Hotline last year. When asked about the concerns over sex worker safety, Benavides said, "Tell that to the mothers and fathers of daughters who've been murdered after being trafficked on Backpage.
Despite wide congressional support, a number of tech groups have voiced concerns about the legislation, alleging that its broad reach could lead to unintended negative consequences for free speech on the internet and for smaller companies whose resources don't rival those of tech giants such as Facebook and Twitter. The American Civil Liberties Union is considering a challenge to the bill once it gets signed into law but has no definite plans to do so, said Ian Thompson, a legislative representative for the organization.
Thompson said some of the bill's language is "so broad that it's open to interpretation of what exactly is intended to be included and what's not intended to be included. Just before the bill passed, McCaskill told reporters that it was "a very, very narrowly written law.
Once these children were rescued they were telling the publisher that some of these ads contained images of them; that they had been kidnapped, drugged, and repeatedly raped; and that they'd like the images taken down and preferably for the ads to be taken down.
One of the problems of decriminalisation of buying and selling sex work is that someone who wants to fuck a 14 year old child isn't going to use the service a 25 year old provides, so legalisation has limited usefulness to prevent the kidnap and drugging of children. I am unaware of this behavior by Craigslist. I want to believe that people are taken seriously when they alert authorities to crimes against them. We can still give a lot of other sex workers way more safety and legitimacy than they have now.
There could be secondary effects that help the 14 year olds. While I agree with your list of things that would help there is a significant problem I've been thinking about with respect to everything that's been happening lately. There is no "government" that does anything, its all people. Then you have the problem of the types of people that could work with drug dealers and sex workers may have more fluid ethics that could be corrupted in some ways. For example, if everyone could be like Violet Blue that would be one thing.
But I could imagine some less than savory person applying for the job but with the intent to look the other way for some payback. I think we really need to stop thinking about the problems as if there is some uncorruptable benevolent "government" that is going to help us. And start think about systems that are realistically run by fallible people but have checks and balances in place to remove corruption. Like maybe the "terrible" government is responsible for punishing only?
I don't know how to solve the problems honestly, just seems like we are looking where the light is rather than where we lost our keys maybe down the sewer. This is the corruption trap that you see in narco-regimes and countries where government institutions are being built or rebuilt. If you prosecute people for corrupt behavior, then your prosecutors and justice system now have to make the same decision.
Ultimately, rule of law only exists because of tradition and a sufficiently widespread support of it. Decriminalization is a better approach than legalization and regulation. If it is decriminalized, then victims don't have to live in fear of the police. Legalization and regulation often makes things worse, not better. We can start decriminalizing now, open up more if it appears to work.
Whatever policy we choose, it should have a clear goal and be evaluated against how well t achieves that goal. I think decriminalization work further both of those goals. Isn't this the same as with legalization? Do you have examples of this? No, they aren't the same.
Unfortunately, googling decriminalization vs legalization gets me articles that state the exact opposite of my understanding. As I understand it, decriminalization means making no law against it.
Legalization means making laws about it that boil down to regulation. Thus, decriminalization is more free. This article seems to be generally in line with my understanding: Example of making it worse: From what I gather, prostitution in Las Vegas is mostly run by the mafia and legalization has not led to women being free to be their own boss, set their own hours, etc.
Legalization of prostitution often means sex workers are subjected to a lot of rules and regulations such that it becomes akin to wage slavery rather than freedom to pursue work independently like a small business owner. I will suggest Obamacare as another example of regulation making things worse. I'm quite poor and being hit with harsh financial penalties on my taxes this year for failing to have full coverage for all of last year.
Prior to Obamacare, I could just forego having healthcare and the government did not get all up in my business about why I did that and whether or not I was allowed to do that, etc. My support of decriminalization of prostitution comes from having read Working: My Life as a Prostitute by Dolores French.
Prior to becoming a prostitute, she was a political activist. The reason you get those google results is because your understanding is not consistent with how other people use the words. Your suggested usage is reasonable, but it's not the usage that is common, and I suggest that you change your understanding. Legalization has always meant "making it legal", which in most societies means "removing laws that make it illegal" though it might mean something different in North Korea, if you see what I mean.
Decriminalization is a wishy-washier idea, that includes lightening or removing criminal penalties, while potentially keeping other penalities. For example, changing indictable offenses to non-indictable offenses in the U.
Prostitution should be legalized , not merely have the penalties lightened. And that alone is not sufficient; legal regimes that legalize the actual act of sex-for-money, but still force most prostitutes to hide from the cops I'm looking at Canadian law, here are still inadequate, because such regimes still victimize sex workers consensual or otherwise.
It's simply a human rights issue. I also think it's clear that some degree of regulation is desirable, but I think that reasonable people can disagree on this.
DoreenMichele 88 days ago. My understanding of the difference is rooted in the opinions of Dolores French who was a sex worker and political activist. She advocated for decriminalization, not legalization, because it was more beneficial to sex workers.
I find some articles that fit with that framework and some that don't. I don't think it's just me. It's a little more complicated than that. I do try to be mindful that the words get used inconsistently and I do try to make a point of clarifying my intended meaning. I'm human and I don't always remember that this is an ongoing issue.
I have provided both a link to an article that communicates my understanding of the topic as well as cited the original source where I got the info, plus stated as clearly as I can that googling it may lead to additional confusion because articles on the topic are contradictory. Some agree with my understanding. Some say the opposite.
I have no idea whatsoever why that would be reason for you to turn this into a personal attack and justification for apparently your personal frustration with me. My understanding is you are British. You could more charitably chalk up any communication difficulties between us to cultural differences and to being "separated by the same language.
This is also basically the Portugal approach to drug control, which appears to be working. You think we would have learned with the experience from Prohibition to inform us I understand what you're saying. However, compare sex work to slavery which it often is. Nobody wants to be a slave. Some desperate people might agree to be enslaved to pay off a debt.
You could say that if someone agrees to be enslaved, it's OK. But I'd argue that removing certain choices promotes freedom. If slavery is illegal, a person found with slaves can't force the slaves to say they agreed to this arrangement; the arrangement itself is illegal and the slave holder is always in the wrong.
I think treating prostitution the same way makes sense. People are free to sleep with whom they choose, but when it's done for money, it's far too easy for exploitation to occur. If we say it's always illegal, we remove the veneer of respectability that enables one person to exploit another "by agreement". Note that in both cases we should target the exploiter and not the victim.
The point isn't "you can't be a slave", but "you can't enslave anyone. I would argue that the sea between "sex slavery" aaaand "sex worker" is just as vast as that between professional engineer and enslaved engineer.
Again, polite society would have you think otherwise Please can we call sex workers pleasure technicians? A pleasure engineer should require a degree By saying that a person can't voluntarily agree to become a slave, you are saying that you, not they, have the right to determine what happens to them.
That is the essence of slavery right there. By taking away their choice you are claiming ownership over them. You haven't eliminated slavery at all; you've just assumed the role of slave-owner yourself "for their own good", much as other slave owners throughout history have justified their actions by claiming that their slaves would be incapable of managing on their own as free individuals.
That is the essence of slavery right there I think you're being hyperbolic. It is not possible for all people to have all freedoms. My freedom to go where I want is limited by your freedom to decide who comes on your property. Like it or not, we have to collectively draw boundaries that restrict some freedoms in order to preserve others.
Some of these tradeoffs are tricky. If large numbers of people start protesting their inability to become slaves, I'll reconsider. Meanwhile, large numbers of people are currently being forced into slavery - See, this is the sort of contradiction inherent in the "positive rights" worldview. Positive "rights" are always in conflict, which is very convenient when you're looking for an excuse to pick and choose which rights other people have and not very useful as a framework for a stable society.
Negative rights, on the other hand, never conflict; there is really only one fundamental right, which is self-ownership: The only actions are out of bounds are those which would infringe on others' rights of self-ownership. From this you can infer other rights like the freedom of speech, freedom of association, the right to privacy, and the right not to be enslaved against your will, and together with others you can cooperate to provide each other with things which, while desirable, are not rights, such as food, shelter, defense, gainful employment, and healthcare.
And I agree that this is wrong. The key difference is that these people were forced into slavery—it wasn't their choice. Obviously it's not a very attractive option under any circumstance, but one can easily imagine situations where the alternative might be worse.
If you need what someone else can provide, and have nothing else of sufficient value to barter for it, giving up your freedom might be a price you'd be willing to pay. No one else should presume to take that option from you. Putting aside the fact that it isn't your right which you're trading away, and consequently that this isn't your decision to make, it doesn't actually protect anyone. A person who was coerced into such a situation could simply say so, forcing the other party to prove that they had agreed to it in exchange for some form of consideration.
AFNobody 3 months ago. That logic makes pornography illegal. Most US sex workers fled CL and use Instagram now or any chat program that provides location distances.
In other countries Weechat is the preferred method to find companions for hire. You'll also find countless escort ads in any adult social media hookup site like say, Fetlife or Adult Friend Finder. A warning to anybody thinking of building a gigantic illegal escort listing service or agency and hosting it in Russia or via Tor, imagine the massive effort to come after you in hopes they discover political rivals have been using your service.
This was interesting to me, so I researched a little. Apparently, the real volume of transactions has moved to https: As usual, the internet routes around censorship. Shutting down one avenue, just pushes these people back into the shadows where its going to be a LOT harder to track down and find them.
With CL being up, it was public, traceable and arrests could be made discretely and out of public view. Nothing should be demonized. Anything that hinders humanity should be regulated and monitored, proportional to the threat.
That is all that is needed. Out of sight and out of mind enables thriving dark markets. To eliminate dark markets, the open market must be all inclusive. There needs to be only one market.
For darker material, we need more aggressive inclusion tactics. For example, pedophilia should be considered an extremely dangerous disease. No one would ever be protected or cured or neutralized , and carriers would be hiding among us. Well no we can't make the sex trade disappear, but we can certainly make it more difficult and by extension less prevalent. While I agree that the current measure is overblown, I do understand where the people behind the legislation are coming from.
Because something can be used for terrorism, like cars, ban all cars. That kind of mentality tends to come from reactionary conservatives in my experience. If it was legal, it could be better regulated, and they could operate with more safety While I'm in favor of decriminalizing adults engaging in adult behavior, I don't believe anyone goes into selling sex with a healthy attitude towards sex.
They're typically victims of sexual abuse at a young age, which has warped their perspective, leading them to believe that their biggest value is to sell their bodies for sex. Let me provide a few questions on prostitution: Readers of HN 1. Would you move to Nevada to work in your spare time as a legal prostitute?
It's all the benefits of being an Uber driver, but with much better per-hour pay, no vehicle lease, and relatively no upkeep costs. You get to chose the clients you service, but you have service. To offset the pain of moving, in addition to the money you make as a prostitute, you also get a sizable pay-raise for your day job. Not everyone can get a six-figure tech job, so the money and self sufficiency that affords is a good alternative to a low-paying entry-level position.
Your teenage child tells you they have decided to be a prostitute to save-for and pay for college. You've put away enough money for them, but they refuse to take it, and instead want to earn their way. Do you encourage them? What if you didn't have any money saved up? Would you support their decision? My point of view isn't to demonize those who have gone into prostitution now, in the past, or in the future, but recognize that it's not a choice that pretty much any of us would make for ourselves, nor the ones we care about.
My day job as a programmer in Silicon Valley already pays a lot, and I expect the pay to increase over time, but if the ratio of [prostitution pay] to [day job pay] was as high as it is for most people, then, yes, I think it'd make sense to do that. If a whole lot of them did that, then I expect the price would drop a great deal, so such a campaign might be dishonest—well, actually, in some respects that is like a stereotype of a STEM campaign, with some companies bemoaning how hard it is to find talent while not raising their low wages.
Other than that concern, yeah, I'd be happy with such a campaign. I don't have children of my own yet, but I have sisters and a niece and female friends, so I will imagine them in that situation. I would have two concerns: STDs and hard drug use. For the first, I would look up some statistics—e. For the second, I would make certain that my child a knew about the risks of various drugs, b was prepared to deal with pressure to take drugs, and c knew that she could leave at any time and come back home.
After those concerns were addressed, yes, I would consider it an interesting experience for my child to have. Lucrative, get to see a bunch of people in an unusual set of circumstances, probably get practice in negotiation and in reading people, etc. You could use the same argument against anything that groups of people consider "immoral". Alterations of the position: They're typically victims of religious indoctrination at a young age, which has warped their perception, leading them to believe in a false god" "While I'm in favor of people having freedom, I don't think anybody uses narcotics with a healthy attitude towards their health.
They're typically victims of immoral liberal households at a young age, which has warped their perception, leading them to believe that drugs are OK" Basically, you're making a moral decision and saying that anybody that ends up making a contrary decision for themselves must be damaged due to their upbringing.
What morale decision am I making? There is a thin line between saying that very few people would make a choice, and very few people should make a choice. You are correctly asserting that you said "would" not "should", but others are correctly pushing back and saying that it is a common rhetorical technique to say one when actually meaning the other.
If you meant what you said in a non-normative manner, you may need to emphasize this fact to prevent the more common reading. Separately, I'm sure some people question whether you are correct that few would choose this lifestyle, and if so, why this would be. Personally, I think you are right that few would choose to work as prostitutes but that the reason is the societal stigma associated with sex work. I don't know how popular the choice would be if the stigma would be removed and the pay remained high.
You seem to be asserting that it would remain extremely unpopular, but I'm not sure that's correct. Even if the stigma were removed, I think the years of human evolution which encourages men and women to pair-wise mate for life would make it hard on an emotional level for more people to provide sex as a service.
Outside of our biological needs, the health risks would be difficult to manage as well. Your contempt for their choices is bizarre and really offensive. If they have a better option, perhaps you could illustrate what that might be. Perhaps grab a coding job? Or waitressing, with all the benefits and pay that comes with and sexual harassment with no recourse, not much metoo for underpaid waitresses?
Or, are you offering a job? What benefits come with being a prostitute? If you're worried about sexual harassment with no recourse, picking a profession with astronomically higher risk of sexual violence would be the last choice any rational person would make. You've built a strawman for my argument; I'm not showing contempt for the choice of picking prostitution; but I am saying that in the US engaging in it, as a seller or as a buyer constitutes being stupid. The increase risk of violence, sexual or otherwise, the risk to your families health, the risk to your own health, the risk to your career.
All reasons why it's stupid. I believe decriminalizing prostitution would reduce the risks--but regardless, those who go into prostitution will still be exploited, regardless of it's legal status. If it were decriminalized and remove it's social stigma I don't see more people becoming prostitutes.
What's that and who exactly defined it? And, as to who exactly, psychologists. From the Mental Help article: They convince themselves that prostitution is a choice and that none of the women they see are exploited. I would like to be confident that everyone I meet was able to get basic necessities like healthcare. Legalizing prostitution would open the door to reducing exploitation. Does the prostitute have a state issued sex worker ID?
Are you paying at least the state-mandated minimum? Did you pay via a certified escrow service that has strict requirements to watch for common signs of abuse? Compare that to what we have now, which is a total lack of transparency. Demand for sex is not going away. We need to prevent it from causing exploitation by creating a safe, legal option. My counter, if everyone had basic necessities met like health care, and universal basic income, would they choose to work as prostitutes?
Perhaps a certain kind of psychologist. Psychologists are not a monolithic block, and many would say that an individual's choice to pursue sex work could be "healthy" as long as it isn't causing them emotional distress or preventing them from living a fulfilling life.
The "scorched earth" approach only gets support when the nature and scope of the issues are distorted. What are the real issues in play? One is prostitution, a form of sex work which is illegal in most of the United States. The American public have varying feelings about its legal status, how enforcement should be carried out, etc.
Public opinion doesn't support measures which endanger sex workers which FOSTA does , because they're already an at-risk group. Public opinion is rightly massively against slavery in any form. What I would like to know is, how much slavery was taking place through the Craigslist personals section? How much of it goes on in America? Can we get some real data injected into this discussion about the nature and the extent of actual forced sex labor?
Scorched earth tactics might be appropriate if America has developed a serious slavery problem again , but they need to be justified with facts. I've run across people who want to take a scorched earth approach to eradicating prostitution which will not work any more than the war on drugs did. They refer to all prostitution as trafficking in order to conflate the two issues, mislead the public and build support for their radical policies.
Neither of these agendas reflect public opinion. The thing is, while some people see it as a separate issue, there is a very common opinion deliberately fostered by the anti-prostitution lobby that prostitution is inherently and inalterably human trafficking, and invocation of the term "human trafficking" is now very commonly used as a cover for policies that are directed generally against prostitution, and not at either the place where human trafficking overlaps with prostitution and not at human trafficking unconnected to prostitution.
Thanks for the links! These Wikipedia articles demonstrate my point that the facts and data are very weak in the trafficking discussion, and that data is often misrepresented to exaggerate the size of the problem. The percentage of these related to sex is not mentioned. This statement is also erroneous.
The GSI's estimate was for the number of people in some form of "modern slavery," which by their definition includes certain kinds of prison labor among other things, and is unrelated to whether they were trafficked.
The same formula is used for Switzerland, Sweden, Germany, etc. I'm not trying to detract from the importance of the issue of modern slavery but mentioning the 57k out of context seems a bit misleading, the US is literally among the best in the world in this area and the number is so rough that it could be off by tens of thousands.
And again, it has nothing to do with trafficking, let alone sex trafficking! Why aren't we doing better studies and getting better data about the problem it purports to solve? I'll probably get downvotes for this, but the Republican leadership is uninterested in facts. They are only interested in their agenda, and if facts get in the way, they will ignore them. It got a lot worse when Newt Gingrich took the reigns in Congress in the 90's. Since Obama was elected, it's gone into hyperdrive.
They fucking hated that man. Everyone is only interested in their agenda in politics, calling for additional research just happens to sometimes further a side's agenda. As of right now, the Democrats are the one's who want additional research in most situations, but that doesn't mean they want more research universally, and when studies have come back negatively as they sometimes do , they are disregarded.
That said, there does seem to be an overall lack of trust in the scientific method among the political right, the reasons behind which being a bit more complicated than political efficacy. Your comment brings to mind this article: I recommend giving it a read if you'd like your attitude challenged. Illniyar 3 months ago. Actually prostitution is legal in Nevada but not in the big cities. So even that isn't so clear cut. Great point, I edited my comment to reflect this.
Other countries have broader definitions. Slavery is still legal in the USA according to the 13th Amendment. Here is a related WP article[1]. Retric 3 months ago. That number is pretending to be accurate the error bars are rediculus to have 3 digits. Yeah it seems too odd that the population percentage is 0. From safety1st's excellent comment: The scorched earth mentality says that if you're not in favor of gun-banning, you're pro-murder.
If you're not in favor of policing all of your user-generated content instantaneously and at significant cost, then you are pro-childporn and pro-child-sexual-exploitation. When in fact, nothing could be further from the truth. The form of this is a false equivalency or perhaps the https: Which is a pretty bad consequence, IMHO.
This also creates a law open to abuse: If you have a corporate enemy that permits user-generated content, simply anonymously post some objectionable content to their site, take a screenshot, and then alert the authorities with the URL and screenshot. It's like SWATting, except on a whole 'nother level! Is Giphy really to blame in this fiasco? How are they somehow more to blame than the person who actually posted this?
And to make the system better they just took the system offline. The next Craigs list will be on Tor and will have a child prostitute section. Congratulations on making things worse. There was at least one that was very popular around 5 years ago, but I don't remember the name. But you are absolutely right, this is pushing sex workers further underground and therefore making their lives more dangerous.
And now you'll have the "innocent" john sorting through ads selling any number of illegal offerings, because he will have to use the TOR version now. Can't help but think this will be a boon for those in the business of sex trafficking. Would it be surprising to say that trading in this might include Bitcoin? Monero is the de facto standard currency in the deep web nowadays, not bitcoin. TeMPOraL 3 months ago. About as surprising as noticing that e. I'd imagine they would use Monero or Zcash nowadays since those are proven fairly more anonymized.
Bitcoin is wholly public so all it takes is one identifiable wallet to start profiling addresses they interact with. You used to be able to tumble the bitcoins but cant realistically do it anymore due to high fees.
By Bitcoin I meant Blockchain based money. But I couldn't edit it later on. Unless they send you suitcase with human being and they don't expect them to get back with cash, then yes, it would be surprising. But if people are content to swat away a problem until they can't see it anymore, despite that the ignored causes continues to generate more misery, then it's hard to be sympathetic to that defensible position.
Especially since a lot of people just lost access to romantic venues because a minority of users make a living through sex.
Or that particular sites enable it? I think the point is: Bartweiss 3 months ago. Perhaps more directly - if we're trying to stop sex trafficking by shutting down the places where victims meet clients, we're going to have to ban streets.
Fjolsvith 3 months ago. Or why can't we ban churches because pastors can use them to rape or molest church members? Most monetary transactions involving victims of sex slaves involve money, should we remove it too? He's saying that this affects far more legitimate users than sex traffickers by multiple orders of magnitude, while at the same time not preventing sex trafficking from taking place anyway. No, no, we don't ban money, we just move to systems where the government gets to monitor all your financial transactions in real time and they get to selectively block those they don't find morally wholesome.
End Prohibition of Sex Work Step 2. Stop Criminalizing Speech driving to further and further under ground were it is no longer tracable at all The "scorched earth" groups are in no way protecting victims, in fact they are making it WORSE by driving people to more shady platforms deep deep under ground, where law enforcement will be less likely to find information or victims.
End Prohibition of Sex Work All you have to do is study the laws of prostitution elsewhere in the world to understand that they have little to no influence on sex trafficking.
Prostitution is legal, explicit, and even taxed in the Netherlands, but sex trafficking remains such a major problem that some large cities, like Utrecht, have outlawed prostitution locally to combat the issue. It may not end sex trafficking but legalising prostitution lowers harm levels on workers, but allowing them to seek medical care and police protection without risk of incarceration.
There is no down-side to legalisation as many would say for drugs, as it allows problems to have legal solutions. I'm not in disagreement with you about legalization of prostitution in general, but with regards specifically to sex trafficking, there is much evidence from several countries that legalization actually makes sex trafficking worse -- most likely due to increased demand for a service anyone can enjoy legally. Could you cite some of this evidence? The issue comes up quite often in the local papers here in the Netherlands.
Some other commenters here have pointed to some other reports from other countries. You get those same benefits if you keep buying sex illegal but decriminalise selling.
Some workers of the business in the Netherlands argue that the end of prohibition worsened conditions. Prostitution in the Netherlands and Drugs in Portugal seem to be the main ones. I assume things got worse because cowardly assholes are now allowed to treat the prostitutes disrespectfully. Before, the assholes that were afraid of the law wouldn't risk going to a prostitute. Now that the law won't hurt them, they go and are demanding disrespectful assholes.
Implying that there is some uptick in people who are "allowed to treat the prostitutes disrespectfully" in well-regulated societies is intellectually disingenuous. HelloNurse 3 months ago. Abuse in a brothel involves an idiot, a prostitute and a lot of other people possibly including bouncers , while abuse of a street walker involves only an idiot, a prostitute and a lonely place.
Guess what's easier to perpetrate, regardless of legality. The likelihood of customers that [would] make derogatory comments post encounter goes up. While the ratio is the same the hard number of negative feedback is 3 times greater. And psychologically negative feedback has much more weight that positive feedback which can weigh on an person's self-confidence and feeling of self-worth. Thank you for the reply and insight. My point is, there are more people now openly able and willing to approach prostitutes who think "shut up and do what I say because I'm paying you [you low life worthless being who has to sell you body to make a living]".
I'm not saying all people who use or are okay with prostitution think this, just that the supply of people who think this and act this way now find themselves able to openly go to prostitutes where as the law, and fear of it, kept these assholes from using prostitutes before.
What does this have to do with the discussion at hand? If your point is that some percentage of people are assholes who look down on others and that more people means more assholes overall, then this is already well understood. How this clarifies the topic at hand or in any way furthers the discussion is missing. Someone said they heard legalization made conditions worse. I was merely offering up an opinion of why that might be, if true. Where are "closet" rude and mean people more likely to make degrading and derogatory comments?
In public in front of others where their socially unacceptable behavior food service employees would be exposed? Or behind closed doors with a single individual where they can freely say shit making the other feel small and themselves feel big? Sorry, I forgot anecdotes, metaphors, and hypotheses are not allowed on HN. I'm truly sorry I wasn't able to effectively and clearly communicate how the dots connect. Noos 3 months ago. It got worse because no one wants to be a prostitute, and there has always been a strong coercive element to women entering that profession.
When you legalize, you increase demand while the supply is still capped, so coercion rises to compensate.
So the same "coercive element" could be said and has been said to drive people to enter any field of employment making all work for wages "coercive" by nature. Where does the coercion appear? Thank you for replying. I'm sure you want the police and laws there to protect children from sexual exploitation.
The same with drugs, you don't want smack and cocaine being sold in Boots. So there has to be a law, and that law is going to be too restrictive for some people and too lenient for others. The laws and implementation of them swings back and forth all throughout time.
We protect children from all manner of things because their brains have not formed to the point where we as a society believe they can make rational choices for themselves However if we are going to have a free society at some point you become an adult, at which point I do not believe the government should act as a parent over your life making choices as to what is "best" for you Allowing for that type of government means you lose self agency and your liberty.
Not sure what a boot is, in American English a boot is a type of shoe, I dont really know if I care that people sell drugs out of their shoes Aside from that, Yes I believe "smack", cocaine, and every other drug should be legal to sell to adults. The government has not business telling an adult what food, drink or drugs they are allowed or not allowed to take.
At most the government has an responsibility to enforce quality, and truthful advertisement laws i. In fact, Boots is now owned by Walgreens. It's official company name now is Walgreens Boots Alliance, Inc but it's Walgreens who bought all the shares of Boots. I believe 'the boot' is a British term for the trunk of an automobile, which I think fits the bill here: The context is the British pharmacy "Boots" - think Walgreens.
The parent commenter's argument is that our society at large does not want heroin and coke sold at the corner drugstore. They want these substances out of sight, out of mind.
It's all very well for us to imagine legalized drugs would be safer and more easy to regulate, but a majority of people disagree - so for the time being, they will continue being sold out of the boots of cars. TheGrassyKnoll 3 months ago. Walgreens Boots Alliance, Inc. Taxed and regulated the same as alcohol and tobacco. Start by legalizing prostitution and removing the black market. That won't end all trafficking, but will end a lot and will make it much easier to go after the remaining illegal black market as it's now been separated from the legal market.
Comment about how people who don't learn are doomed to repeat history here. How many black markets for harmless everyday goods and services do we need to ban before the idiots in charge start to understand these simple principles?
They're constantly talking about markets, but clearly no one in government understands the first thing about them. Or, more likely, doesn't want to. It's much easier to hide illegally activity that mirrors legal activity than it is to hide illegal activity where all the surrounding paraphernalia is direct evidence.
Your assertion that legalisation of prostitution will lead to less trafficking of people seems naive to me - you create a larger market and allow people to easily hide.
You bring forth a compelling theory, but I don't think it's true. Compare the market for contraband or counterfeited booze and cigarettes, which "mirrors" legal booze and cigarettes, with the market for cocaine and heroin, where "all the surrounding paraphernalia is direct evidence".
OK, go on, if someone is smoking an illegally imported cigarette it's nearly impossible to tell just by looking that there's been a crime. If they're doing a line you know within a small error margin without any investigation. Why, because the former is hidden by the legally allowed behaviour. No, you can't tell if a given cigarette being smoked is contraband or not, but buying a pack of smuggled cigarettes is a very different experience from buying a legal pack. Even a conscientious customer has very few options to check for themselves.
If brothels on the other hand are legal, operators have every incentive to do this, and if anyone is looking for an illegal brothel which looks very different from a legal one, just like the place you're buying smuggled smokes looks very different from a , this "paraphernalia" is direct evidence that they're looking for something bad. Sure, but the question is about the relative sizes of the markets and the amount of involuntary suffering involved.
While I admittedly did not look up any hard data, I take it for granted that the cocaine market is much more of a public problem than the smuggled cigarette market. This flies in the face of your admittedly compelling thought experiment. Siblings have made some compelling points regarding why that might be. Legal cigarettes cap the profits that can be had from illegal cigarette trade. With cocaine, you can charge x production costs. This creates incentives that are sure to produce an endless supply of dealers, regardless of how draconian enforcement is.
It would probably also create a boom in prostitution - with the accompanying drawbacks. Job Cohen, the former mayor of Amsterdam lamented in crime organizations and human traffickers taking advantage of their lax prostitution laws. You know that you can have consensual sexual relationships outside of marriage, right? They don't even have to be exclusive. Seriously, dude, if you're a "hungry man", open Tinder or just go to a local hook up bar. Hooking up for a one night stand is trivial.
I look repulsive and my personality isn't much better. Hookups are quite out of the question. But it must be nice to be attractive and have enough money to go out clubbing. Stop being such a goddamned quitter.
Dressing well is the least important. Other people are happy to do it for you. If I can meet biological needs like eating by paying some one and not having to hunt and farm, why shouldn't I have the option of doing the same with sex? If you want to, go for it. But feeling that you are charmless and ugly is unpleasant even if you can buy sex.
These are problems that are at worst, and I do mean worst, ameliorable. If you tell yourself those things often enough, which frankly sound like what other people have said about you in the past, eventually you start to believe them as fact. Both looks and personality can be improved upon, even if you are on a budget.
Perhaps the commenter was merely making a point but no doubt your advice is invaluable. Glad you've been lucky, but don't make assumptions from data set of 1. It's trivial only for the most attractive and charismatic males. OkCupid has published some nice research on it. Luckily charisma can be learned and overcome all but the most outlying unattractive. But yea prostitution is the world's oldest profession for a reason - sometimes people just want a transactional sexual encounter.
For money, one can have no "equal parts" requirement - no need to reciprocate. It's not for everyone or for me but I can understand the attraction. Some people can indeed easily attract casual sexual partners in a matter of minutes or hours in almost any environment.
But the vast majority of the population cannot. It all depends on how do you agree upon this. I've been married, and I've been in open and polyamorous relationships, and difference is enormous. Frondo 3 months ago. Of course it can. Someone might want to have sex with you, and consent, and then they might want you to stop, and remove consent for you to continue. Continuing sex with someone after they tell you to stop, no matter what they said before, is sexual assault.
Well, yes it can. You have to dismiss massive amounts of male testimonies to say that consent has never ever been removed after the fact. The idea that there's a recurring massive problem of false convictions for rape is bizarre. In most countries it's extremely difficult to get alleged rape prosecuted in the first place and the conviction rate is low. I'm not going to dispute that it might have happened in some cases but it's a comparatively rare problem.
Also, I'm going to assume you're not a native English speaker - the contrasting group nouns should be "men" and "women" not "males" and "girls". This parenthetical is an odd leap. Perhaps it was meant to suggest that the author who is certainly fluent in, if not a native speaker of, English shouldn't use the word girls to refer to women? No, its more like the Salem witch hunt. You mean, like millions of illegal immigrants who are working in farming, construction, fast food, and many other industries?
How do you feel about scorched earth approach to those? Apparently trading your body for sex is somehow metaphysically different to trading your body for labor. It most certainly is for an indeterminate number of people. PurpleBoxDragon 3 months ago. But if you suggest to legalize and regulate it as a means of protecting those who don't wish to participate, you will be seen as a demonic entity who is advocating for sex crimes to be legalized...


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Calling all dieters....hear ye! hear ye!
So you want to lose weight.
You have tried all the diets, starved yourself exercised until you ache all over and it´s just not working.
You managed the diet , exercised, looking great however struggling to keep to what you feel is your ideal weight.
The reason?
What you believe about dieting and how to lose weight is arse about face as we say in Scotland.
Successful dieting is not about losing the excess fat, it´s about keeping it off.
Diets, no matter what kind, don´t work. As soon as you come off the diet the weight starts piling on again, and it´s harder to shift this time around. That´s why most diets are referred to as the yo-yo diet.
This is the BIGGY - diets are NOT a long term solution to weight control.
As always I like to KISS - Keep It Super Simple
In order to lose weight and keep your ideal weight you need to first of all
Then and this is what we need to look at arse about face.......
In general the only people that think about their blood sugar are people who have been diagnosed as diabetic, however, this is the key to successful weight loss and control.
Your body is constantly striving for balance, when any system is out of balance it results in dis - ease and your health suffers. Every illness and disease is simply an imbalance in the body. Find the imbalance, correct it and we restore health.
Excess weight is an imbalance in the body.
Your blood sugar level is the amount of glucose, from what you eat, that's circulating in your bloodstream to provide energy to cells immediately or be stored for future use.
When we eat, our body converts carbohydrates into glucose, this is how we get our energy. When our blood sugar levels rise the body produces a hormone called insulin in order to allow the glucose to enter your cells and give you energy.
Insulin and weight gain
When glucose is able to enter your cells then glucose levels in your blood drop. The higher your blood sugar , the more insulin you produce. Glucose that your body cells do not use accumulates as fat. If you have too much insulin circulating it will also hinder the body´s ability to break down fat. So as you can see increased blood sugar leads to increased insulin production.
Ironically, not getting enough sugar can also lead to putting on extra pounds!
Eating too little glucose can lead to a low blood sugar level, causing your body to go into "starvation mode" and then it will burn your lean muscle instead of the fat .
So how do we do this using the KISS method?
1. Make sure you drink enough good water daily.
Are you hungry or thirsty? Quite often when we feel hungry the body is actually thirsty.
Water helps the body metabolize stored fat, rid the body of waste (as in unwanted fat and toxins), and is a natural diuretic and a natural laxative.
The way to tell if you are hydrated enough is how often you have to pee and whether your urine is clear with no strong smell. If you do not have to pee every 1 - 1.5 hours during the day and your urine is concentrated and smells then you need to drink more water. What simpler way could the body have to tell us we are dehydrated. How many of us listen!
2. Maintain a healthy acid/alkaline balance in the body.
This can be done with diet.
3. Eat regularly throughout the day to maintain blood sugar levels.
Avoid eating white flour products , eat more fruit, vegetables, nuts and berries.( these all help to burn fat and maintain blood glucose levels) Avoid drinking soda, replace with carbonated water if you need the bubbles!
You do not have to suddenly become the most frequent visitor at the gym. Take a walk, stretch and bend, whatever you are doing do it consciously and exaggerate the movement a little.
5. Relax!
The biggest hurdle people face when they are focusing on their weight is , they are focusing on losing weight. Change the focus = lose the weight!
The above is meant to give you an oversight into how easy it can be to maintain your natural body weight. It does not have to be difficult and it is not about depriving yourself. If you would like more details contact me for a chat!
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YUMA, Ariz. – It's a national phenomenon that took the Desert Southwest by storm, several people dressing up as clowns and roaming city streets day and night. The situation has brought a good laugh to some residents but others have voiced concerns. We tracked the group of clowns down to get answers for their motives what we found seems harmless. "We are trying to show people we're not out here to scare people kids don't have to be scared", said one of the clowns named Richard Wagner.
It all started with a photo posted to social media last week, showing a clown in a prison jumpsuit riding a bike. The man behind the mask that started it all is Yuma resident Joseph Arballo. "Somebody in a black truck stopped by and took a picture", said Arballo.
That picture has since been shared online countless times and picked up by media outlets nationwide. The attention just led to more clowns. "I live across from the 1st clown, it got media coverage I said hay do you have any more costumes lets go to the corner and get some business out here", said Wagner.
The clowns formed a team of three and have been trying to get business for Yuma Snow On The Go, owned and operated by Aaron Denison who had a mission for these clowns. "Went and got a few more clowns and just wanted to have a little fun there are to many negative things going on in the world." The "fun" came at a time when reports out of other states, such as South Carolina and California, claim people dressed as clowns are trying to lower children into the woods. Nothing like this has been reported in the Desert Southwest. "I found out about some stuff going on in South Carolina and California and it really concerned me that people are afraid of my clowns hurting people in Yuma", said Denison.
We spoke to one resident, who does not want to be identified, that says these clowns or someone influenced by them chased and scared their children. They say their children were scared, crying and shaking and afraid to go to school. Denison says it was definitely not his clowns that did that and he has heard of "copy cat" clowns in Yuma. "I did hear of some copycat Clowns chasing people and that really concerned me so Sunday I posted we are not going to do this anymore", said Denison. For cases like that the Yuma Police Department encourages you to call police so they can investigate any wrong doing. "If they do it in a way that's threatening please call us", said SGT. Lori Franklin with YPD. Police say the simple act of dressing up like a clown in public is not a crime, but if the people dressing up commit some form of harassment or other crime police may be able to take action.
Denison says "his clowns" will not be dressing up in public anymore, expect possibly near Halloween. He says he hopes they can find a way to raise money for a local organization to give back to the community.


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I'm still sick with whatever this thing is ! March 2nd and feeling worse.
When I cough, there is hard pain in lower back of my head. It stops when coughing stops.
Now I have a pulled muscle and ribs fractured from coughing so much. Very painful, just moving in any way.
The head pain is worse than the rib pain, though.
I have not been eating much…just light foods and absolutely no cookies or stuff like that. No taste for them.
I forgot to take an extra Ester C last night. That seemed to help with all the symptoms the two nights I took it. That totals 1,000 mg of Ester C per day, if I don't forget. My round of antibiotic is done, and I take Clarinex by prescription. It helps. It's very expensive, though. $97.73 for fifteen tablets.
The weather here is gorgeous and sunny…..and a VERY HIGH POLLEN COUNT !!! I don't go outside , only if I absolutely have to go to Publix or CVS five blocks away from here. I ride my scooter, so I need to wear a pollen mask. I bought a box of fifty of them from CVS Friday, for only $11.00 and change.
I have an appointment with my primary care Dr. tomorrow, Monday at 10:30 a.m. My right side lung is so sore , it's hard to tell if pain is from the ribs, or fluid in my lungs.
I hope and pray so much that this thing that has me so sick, will go away and stay away !


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I used to think I was in favor of every possible step to reduce the burden of government spending.
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- Is Medicaid spending out of control? Yes, so cap outlay growth and block grant the program to the states.
- Has NATO outlived its usefulness? Yes, so let's save money and bring troops home from Europe.
But I confess I've come across a budget-cutting strategy that even I can't support. And it's not in the area of national defense or public safety, which even I agree are legitimate functions of government.
Instead, I'm talking about the government-run healthcare system in the United Kingdom, which apparently is bribing hospitals to make greater use of the "Liverpool Care Pathway," which is the UK version of a death panel. Here are some jaw-dropping excerpts from the…
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Step Up To The Plate
Posted in Leadership by Benham Brothers | April 7th, 2015
Over the last few weeks, we've been encouraging our readers to "get in the game" today. Being a spectator in the stands just doesn't cut it anymore. It's the bottom of the ninth, and our nation is getting shut out. America needs some sluggers to step up to the plate – and fast!
Although we see ourselves as job creators and not policy debaters, in the spirit of "getting in the game," we have to step up to the plate because of what's happening in Indiana and around the country.
Last week, Gov. Mike Pence signed into law the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, or RFRA. Keep in mind, this was first signed into federal law in 1993 by President Bill Clinton and was introduced by liberal Sens. Chuck Schumer and Ted Kennedy. It passed in the Senate 97-3. President Obama, who was a state senator at the time, also voted for the Illinois version of it.
In baseball, we call that a grand slam.
Then, in 1997, the Supreme Court ruled that the federal RFRA did not apply to state and local government action. Since then, numerous states passed their own RFRAs.
OK, so why do we need RFRAs anyway?
It's easier to hit a ball off a tee than a 90 mph fastball, so we're going to keep this simple. RFRAs act as a shield, not a sword. In other words, they are not offensive weapons to push religion. Rather, they are shields to protect business owners from being forced by state and local governments to engage in business activities (messages, events, etc.) that are against their deeply held beliefs. That was a mouthful.
Here are some relevant examples of what a RFRA could protect if passed in your state:
- In Oregon, Aaron and Melissa Klein were fined $150,000 by the state for refusal to bake a wedding cake for a "gay" wedding.
- In New Mexico, Elaine Huguenin, a photographer, was ordered by the state to give a woman $7,000 for declining to take pictures at her lesbian wedding.
- In Washington, Barronell Stutzman was sued by the attorney general of her state and fined for not providing flowers for a "gay" wedding.
Business owners should never be forced by the state to service "events" or "messages" that are against their deeply held beliefs. A Jewish-owned jewelry store should not be forced to produce anti-Semitic jewelry. In the same way, a gay-owned apparel company should not be forced to print anti-gay themed T-shirts. We could list examples ad nauseam.
The Religious Freedom Restoration Act has nothing to do with servicing all "individuals" in the marketplace. It has everything to do with whether or not business owners must service all their "ideas."
When we were fired by HGTV because it didn't agree with our faith-based "message," we didn't fuss about it. As a matter of fact, we supported its freedom to fire us. Our message didn't agree with theirs, and they exercised their God-given freedom to part ways.
Yet the mass hysteria surrounding the RFRA passed in Indiana shows that such freedom is a one-way street. How many of those protesting Indiana's RFRA asserted with equal conviction that HGTV should not have fired us?
Well, critics are using a "spitball" to create a deceptive message and hurling it at Gov. Pence and anyone who would dare support him.
"This denies gays and lesbians civil rights," they say. Seriously? Let's think this through.
We know both Barronell Stutzman and Melissa Klein (from the examples above), and each of them told us that they happily serviced LGBT customers for years. Yet when those customers asked them to service their gay weddings (expressive events that are against their beliefs), they declined. This is not rejecting an individual; it's rejecting an idea – and that is their right.
There were plenty of bakers in Oregon and florists in Washington that would've serviced these requests. Yet these couples demanded Barronell and Melissa do it. So by trying to force these women to act against their beliefs – knowing full well others would accommodate their requests – whose rights were actually denied?
As Christians, we try to focus on our responsibilities before demanding our rights, but when we see that our first right (freedom to exercise religion) is being threatened, it becomes our responsibility to "get in the game" and fight.
Read more at http:http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/silent-no-more-christians-step-up-to-the-plate/
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Sunday, April 07, 2013
Mothers of the Third Reich, BBBlood, Half an Abortion, Left Hand Cuts Off Right, Bad Surbuban Nightmare, The Zero Map
Mothers Of The Third Reich
Swim Club. Cassette. C60
100 Copies
BBBlood/Half an Abortion -Split
Crater Lake. Cassette.
100 copies
Left Hand Cuts Off Right/Bad Suburban Nightmare - Split
Armed Within Movement. C60
The Zero Map - Distant Storms
Armed Within Movement. C40
So what are we to glean from these offerings? That noise is alive and well and ordering drinks at the bar? That cassettes will never die? That I will never like the Zero Map again until they, by some miracle of a career change, manage to record a really great cover of Haysi Fantayzee's 'John Wayne is Big Leggy'? That Jase Williams is still the most enigmatic noise maker in the UK? That the sound of breaking glass will never lose its aesthetic appeal no matter how many ways it gets interpreted? That Left Hand Cuts Off Right are still managing to illicit little squeals of delight?
All of the above statements are true. And seeing as how these four releases were pulled at random from the review pile and given a serious listening to during the last couple of weeks I can still say with absolute certainty that I'm either incredibly lucky to be getting good stuff to review or that my audience now knows me so well as to not bother sending stuff from America. Hello European micro labels celebrating noise and drone and bye-bye American teenagers with too many 'awesomes' in their vocabulary.
Talking of which, here we are on the Swim Club website; 'Super stoked to be putting out this mighty bohemoth [sic] of a tape', another annoying Americanism followed by a spilling mistok [I'm no pedant myself tho]. I have to admit that I find myself squeezing both fists until the blood appears at the very mention of that most annoying of adjectives, 'super stoked' comes second with the catchall 'dude' running a close third.
Its not a phrase I'd expect to find south coast resident Jase Williams using any time soon. Jase's new-ish adventure into sound is The Mothers of the Third Reich. After jettisoning his long time noise project DK720, he's teamed up with female drummer and sometime Amniotic artist Johannah Henderson to terrorize small venues up and down the country with a kind of noise that really is noise. Crashing of pots and pans, squawking sax, guitar abuse and what a guitar it is, a one stringed affair that's Jase's take on the Diddley Bow but without the bow. One long studio track and three shorter tracks culled from a short tour show Jase and Johannah building and collapsing with Johannah rattling the drums and Jase either doing a wayward Lisa Simpson on the sax or a disturbed Keith Rowe on the guitar. Sometimes its an all out ball breaking affair at others more subdued with only the occasional cymbal being chucked against the wall. And it is a long haul. The last MOTTR thing I got from Jase was a C120 [or at least it felt like it]. C10's? Fuggedit, when you dive in with Jase its for the full mashing. Comes with a denim patch all ensconced within some kind of weird printed synthetic fabric.
Pete Cann likes to smash things thats why they call him Noisy Pete. I've seen him in action on a few occasions, be it with hammer in hand or violin or most famously in the Wharf Chambers with some clowns mobile phone. I assume that Paul Watson likes to do the same. Either side of their Crater Lake split will bring glass smashing relief but I'm betting that the noisier side is Pete's Half an Abortion - bottles being chucked into an empty 45 gallon drum as the Leeds traffic rumbles past, perhaps the sounds being processed and looped into further destruction further along the line.
And what's not to like about the sound of glass smashing? The permanent destruction of something fragile produced to a magnificent sound quality for our aural delectation. Both sides are marked and I could if I wanted tell you which side is which but I feel it hardly matters as both are truly magnificent in their primitive rawness. Smashing glass for aural pleasure has been around ever since people threw bottles against a wall in search of cheap thrills and the knowledge that their split second action not only made a great sound but left a dangerous footprint. Then there's Jewish weddings, rioters and plate glass seem permanently drawn to each other and then theres the Ballardian image of crushed windscreen glass mingling with spilt semen and engine fluids in Crash. Wolf Vostell, Joke Lanz, Richard Rupenus and no doubt plenty of others [Watson dedicates his track to Lowe and Lanz but I failed to discover who Lowe was] have trod this path with much success before and long may others do the same.
Having just left Left Hand Cuts Off Right at the Must Die Records turnpike its a pleasure to reacquaint myself at so early a juncture. Here's that Robbie Judkins again making micro drones and teeny ectoplasms of rattles and Kagel like toy noises. Especially on 'Habiba' which comes over like a Joe Jones machine tumbling down the stone steps in Whitby or a group of over zealous Alpine cow bell ringers on speed. Judkins uses improv techniques, radio interference and field recordings [and probably lots of other techniques which are lost on me] all on show with second track here 'Seventy Heads With Seventy Tongues' which sounds like a Van der Graff generator spitting sparks into an ominous drone whilst a New Dheli school teacher takes charge of her pupils.
Bad Suburban Nightmare's Dan Hrekow tumbleweed Ry Cooder-esque ambience has met with approval before. Previous BSN releases have provided much in the way of a 'Paris, Texas' soundtrack and long may he continue. 'Drone Heartbreak' is Krekow continuing this theme but its second track 'Alchemy' thats shows a new direction. Here the guitar disappears to be replaced by hollow depth charges exploding in a series of muffled displays, perhaps the digestive system of a whale or the irregular heartbeat of chain-smoking fat bastard.
Back on the south coast we have The Zero Map - the Ying to Jase William's Yang. The Zero Map do for drone what Mogadon did for creativity. Having once [a while ago it has to be said] liked a Zero Map release I now find myself finding lots of reasons not to like them.
Its drone aboard a rudderless ship. Aimless, drifting stuff thats harmless enough but never alive enough to hold you attention for long. I await the Haysi Fantayzee cover version with much eagerness.
Crater Lake
Armed Within Movement
Swim Club
Jase has kindly pointed out to me that I've made it seem as if Johannah does nothing but drum with MOTTR. This is of course a total misconception. Johannah is of course an integral part of the band, an inspiration as well as multi-instrumentalist without whom the band would not exist. I'm more than happy to point this out and send you in this direction for further MOTTR satisfaction.
2 comments:
- Steve said...
I think Paul dedicated his "piece" to Nick Lowe as in "I Love The Sound Of Breaking Glass".
- Sunday, April 07, 2013 11:59:00 am
Dan Hrekow - just sayin.
- Monday, April 08, 2013 9:50:00 am
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Hairy Biker Dave Myers has been in Doncaster this morning to shoot a new television series.
The television chef swapped risotto for restoration as he arrived at the Mansion House to record a new 15-part BBC series The Hairy Builder which focuses on major renovation projects at some of Britain's oldest buildings.
Shoppers watched as the star - complete with waxed moustache - filmed scenes on the High Street in front of the building which is currently undergoing a series of major repairs which are due to be completed early next year.
He said: "It is wonderful to be here in Doncaster. This series is looking at some of the country's most historic buildings and finding out the stories behind them.
"The Mansion House is a fantastic example of a building right in the middle of town with a great tale behind it."
During filming, Dave, who has gone solo to record this series without TV partner Si King, learned traditional roof slating skills from builders employed by William Anelay, the company who helped build the Mansion House originally. Chairman Charles Anelay said: "It is amazing to be involved in a restoration project knowing members of the family were involved in doing some of this fantastic work hundreds of years ago."
The series is expected to air in the New Year.


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One of the Australian Fashion Week Spring collections I'm most looking forward to is that of Saint Augustine Academy. Though I've blogged about SAA before, it was not until recently that I realised it was a Sydney label.
I definitely know it now.
Designer Alvin Manalo's latest campaigns for the label wrap up this fair city in a sweet embrace. For starters SAA's Fall 2011 campaign stars the entirely gorgeous Isabella Manifredi of The Preachers and the very lovely James Domeyko who, amongst other things, co-founded Eclipsefest.
Tying things up neatly, The Preachers' video for their single Pale Rider shows the band decked out in suitably moody Saint Augustine Academy threads:
Perhaps most interesting for me is the short film Rooms for the Memory directed by Oliver Heath, which is featured on SAA's website as a catalogue for its Crystal Ballroom Spring 2011 collection.
Rooms for the Memory is a veritable who's who of a certain Marrickville/ Newtown set, bright young things who will undoubtedly be the subject of many a nostalgic tract in decades to come. The whole thing is, of course, exceedingly Cool, but I don't think there is anything contrived about Manalo's vision. I just wanna see what comes next.


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She was not happy to leave her buddies! I had to kick, kick, kick just to get her out the gate! I DID make sure that I girthed her up slowly today. She had a bit of a hump in her back going to the gate but after that we were golden. I jumped off to open and shut the gate and wasn't sure how feel about me mounting from the ground far away from the other horses. We circled a few times and then she stood still! What a good girl! We had two school buses, barking dogs chasing us, motorcycles...not phased!! She stopped a few times to look and listen and whinny, which was fine, but stayed brave and kept walking. I was very pleased :)
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ADO News Releases
and is re-printed here solely for SBDA members information only. You can email the ADO here:
Just in case you haven't read the latest Double
Eagle...The SBDA has several honorable mentions.
Thanks to Bubba Darbonne for bringing this to my attention. Here's a sampling:
ADO ALLSTARS 2000 Regional Winners
Region lll-3 (That's us!)
1st Scott Wollaston
1st Ernie Comardelle
3/4 **KEN HEARN** / Ken Bayhi
1st Lorraine Keyser
2nd **LOU HOLT**
3/4 Kathy Swift / Terri Fountain
Special Achievements
Ton 70 Out
Lou Holt
lll-3 All Star Regional
May 2000
SBDA Spring League
Barrow Long, Dale Robison, Stacy Manning, Kim Lawrence, Ted Barnett, Kevin McInnis,
Robert Lawrence, Tim Munn, and Vince Newton
Robert Youngman (2) and Robert Lawrence
Playoffs Ton80
Dale McInnis, Kevin McInnis, Dale Robison, and Gaylon Fergason
ADO lll-3 Regional Allstars Ton80
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|September, 2000
|Anniversary Tournaments Announced
SBDA Chosen! Check It Out!
|29 July, 2000
|Competition For World Cup Team 2001 Under Way
Cricket Championships Slated for Fall; ADO Saddened by Member Deaths
|16 July, 2000
|Blueberry Hill's Joe Edwards Receives Community Award
Results of New ADO Survey Will Help Determine Future Programs
|16 June, 2000
|New Youth Program Manuals Now Available
Volunteers and Party People Sought; WDF Rules on Breakaway Points
|4 June, 2000
|U.S. Team Playoffs Approach
New Locale for 2001 Masters; Survey Response Needed
|14 May, 2000
|2000 Maters Team Complete
ADO Revises By-Laws, Begins Anniversary Plans
|7 May, 2000
|Carter is Perfect in Cricket
ADO Partners with Bulletin Board; Youth Playoffs Approach
|16 April, 2000
|ADO Issues New Guidelines For Playoffs
National Youth Dart Day declared
|7 April, 2000
|American Darts Organization To Give Away $10,000
Space Coast Supports Youth; ADO Signs with Sports Site
|17 March, 2000
|National Ambassadors Team for 2000 Named
Lim Gets Award; Road to Vegas Begins in April
|3 March, 2000
|Election Results are in
Some positions still undecided; Summer events announced
|2 February, 2000
|Six U.S. Players World-Ranked
Bromberg Makes Sports Illustrated List; 21 Million Play Darts in U.S.
|15 January 2000
|New Century Cricket Champions Crowned
New member perks, playoff lineup highlight start of year
|17 December 1999
|Wollaston Headed to Embassy
Members Invited to Share Creativity
|7 December 1999
|Bromberg Makes Top 8 at Masters
Cricket National Finalists Announced
|21 November 1999
|ADO Completes Regional Realingment
New Twists to Playoffs, Fee Adjustments Also Made at Fall Meeting
|23 October 1999
|Masters Team will Converge on London
Cricket Regionals on Horizon
|17 October 1999
|England Claims World Cup
American Teams Place in Top Quarter of 32-team Field
|21 September 1999
|ADO Members to get Dartboard Deal
|29 August 1999
|Regional Realignment to be Finalized in November
Board Announces Changes for Masters Team; Elections Slated
|20 August 1999
|Umberger, Bromberg, Cable Claim ADO Titles
ADO Signs New Sponsorship Contract
|4 August 1999
|World Cup Sponsorship Add Up
Youth program attracts attention, too
|21 July 1999
|ADO Names World Cup Team, First Junior All-Stars Coming to Vegas
Women to Defend World Cup Title; Number of Youth Finalists Doubles
|22 June 1999
|American Team Makes it's Mark Down Under
Marienthal, Brown Take Doubles Title
|9 June 1999
|ADO International Team Finalists
From Blueberry Hill to the Australian Grand Masters......
|1 June 1999
|ADO World Cup Team Update (revised)
|5 May 1999
|International Playoff Winners Headed to Australia
ADO Proposes New International Event
|17 April 1999
|ADO Names Official Web Site
Former U.S. and World Cup Champion Nicky Virachkul Dies
|28 March 1999
|ADO Begins Plans For All-Star, Youth, National 501 Championships
Board Votes to Make Cricket, 501 Parallel Programs in 2000
|9 March 1999
|Preparations For August Gala Events Begin
$10,000 Bonus to be Offered for Perfect 501 Game; 1999-2000 Calendars Ship
|26 February 1999
|ADO Names 1999 National Team
New Safety Data Good News for Darts
|13 February 1999
|1999 Cricket Champions Crowned
Scholarship Fund Gets Boost; Board Meeting Set
|16 January 1999
|Seven U.S. Players In Top 20 Of WDF Rankings
WDF Introduces Web Site; Barneveld Repeats as Embassy Champ
|2 January 1999
|ADO Will Offer Perfect Game Prize Again In '99
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Jane on Larkin in San Francisco is a local cafe that serves coffee, toast, breakfast, pastries and other items. I was on the hunt for a breakfast spot that also sold avocado toast.
Coffee is definitely a staple in any cafe. I went with a Cappuccino
Avocado Mash
Avocado Mash has avocado, cracked black pepper, poached egg, pickled shallot and jalapeño. It was beautiful and very delicious, but I felt the pickled jalapeño was a bit too much especially in the morning. It sure cleared up my sinuses.
Breakfast Sandwich
Egg White Sandwich with spinach and avocado with provolone and a dash of sriracha served on your choice of house-baked sourdough, multigrain bread or baguette. Super healthy sandwich.
Overall, Jane on Larkin was good. We were able to get a table early in the morning. Food looks pretty and tasted good.
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- The last hidden region of Oigawa.
- 3 routes to hike in the vasty nature
- This is it, the mysterious contrast of green and blue.
- Make a wish in middle of it!
- Why does the river look so blue?
- Take a break and slowly go up 304 steps!
- "Kawanecha" tea, grown in the Southern Alps
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The last hidden region of Oigawa.
Senzu station is the last stop on the SL and this is where you jump on the tram bound for Sumatakyo Onsen, which departs at 1:20 P.M.
※ The past article→ A one-day trip to Shizuoka's hidden region. Vol.1: Time travel to the early Showa period on the SL locomotive!
As I slowly go up to the narrow mountain path, I noticed that traffic gets a littler lighter. After 40 minutes of hiking, I reached Sumatakyo, said to be the last hidden region of Oigawa. The virgin forest is 16km long and has a 100-meter difference in elevation. There are some hot spring hotels and souvenir shops surrounded by mountains, so the area is really quiet and the air is so clean. This area sounds as if it's a legitimately hidden region. I somehow understand what's happy about not having much.
3 routes to hike in the vasty nature
Sumatakyo is also the starting point for the train to the South Alps. There are three major hiking routes. The "Green shower road," goes along the pure stream of the Sumatagawa River. The "Soto-moriyama hiking course" goes to the Mt. Soto-Moriyama where acacia grows. The "Sumatakyo promenade course" passes through the Suspension bridge of dreams, or "Yume-no-Tsuribashi"
※For more details→Sumatakyo Map
Each route can be hiked in 1 to 2 hours, so you can actually try all of them out if you want. For the advanced hiker, I would recommend to hike up to the Asahi-dake or Mt. Sawaguchi. We were not energetic enough to go any further, so we decided to go to the Promenade course through the hot spring street!
Walking in the fresh green forests.
You can see the "Sarunami-bridge" in this picture.
It's on the "Green shower road" route. The majestic scenery of mountains is so stunning!
"The tunnel of Tenshi"
There is a myth about the wind. It is said that, if you touch the wind blown from here, you can get good health.
This is it, the mysterious contrast of green and blue.
After passing the promenade and tunnel, the emerald green lake pops up in front of your eyes! It's vividness almost made me faint. I continued to the climb the steep staircase and found the suspension bridge known as, The Bridge of dreams where beautiful green trees stretch along the lake.
This is the real hidden place. It's mystical energy drifts across the bridge. It's so nice….
The bridge crosses over the intersection of the Omagawa and Sumatagawa Rivers. It is 90-meters long and 8-meters high. It was named after the fear of crossing the bridge and it's ability to give you bad dreams, but the way it stands is also "dreamy" and beautiful.
Make a wish in middle of it!
Once I took my first step, the bridge started swaying with an unpleasant sound. The two floors are stable and you can see the lake just 8-meters below. The bridges capacity is 10 people and is one- way traffic. It sways more than you think, so be careful and cross it slowly.
Once you reach the middle, make a wish for a person you admire. There is a jinx here that says, the wish you make for love comes true. You'll see many couples around the bridge. I can imagine it would come true if you wish for love in such a beautiful location. Can I get a date with a good looking guy?… I'm joking!
Why does the river look so blue?
The Sumatagawa River has such clear blue water.
The water contains less minute particles, so light reflects better off of the surface of clean blue water.
It's very beautiful!
Take a break and slowly go up 304 steps!
A staircase with 304 steps is waiting for you right after passing the scary suspension bridge! The signboard kindly says to take a break and slowly go up the 304 steps. Once you cross the bridge, you can't go back. I decided to go up quickly. There are rest areas on the way, so please keep your pace and go slowly.
There is a bridge called "Hiryuu-bashi" at the top. You can also see the bridge of dreams from a distance. It looks a bit different when you look at it from here, but is still, very beautiful.
"Kawanecha" tea, grown in the Southern Alps
I took a rest in the souvenir shop after hiking.
Kawane-honcho city is where the Sumatakyo produces Kawanecha tea and is famous for using water from the pure stream of the Southern Alps. It tastes so mild and smells good too.
The souvenir shop I was in is "Nagashima-en" and they have "Matcha" soft ice cream.
The sweet, cold ice cream tasted so good! The sweetness of "Matcha" flavored soft ice cream is great! I couldn't help but to eat it before taking picture!
Next time, I'll introduce the best places to relax yourself you after hiking.
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Dublin MEP, Brian Hayes has today (XXXX) criticised the 'scaremongering' that is taking place in relation to the ongoing negotiations of a trade deal between the EU and the US. The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) negotiations have been taken place since 2014 and will hopefully conclude with a deal that is good for jobs and good for investment.
"I have never said that there are no risks with doing a deal with the United States. But change is inevitable. Europe needs this deal more than the United States because Europe is falling behind."
"TTIP holds huge potential for Ireland through better market access for Irish companies in the USA. Some 21% of all Irish exports already go to the US and an additional €2.4 billion could be added to our real national income with a successful trade agreement."
"More than any other country in Europe we are so well positioned to take up the opportunities of a TTIP deal."
"Establishing a trade agreement means the creation of more jobs and investment in Ireland. It is about abolishing customs duty for companies, dismantling regulatory barriers and improving co-operation when establishing international standards. It means a company based in Ireland employing 30 people would be able sell their products directly to customers in the USA without paying customs taxes and other tariffs. Ultimately it means more profit for the Irish company, allowing it to expand and employ more people."
"In any dispute between countries a means of resolving disputes has to be found. The ISDS process is transparent in that publically appointed, independent judges in public hearings will preside over the rulings. There will be no secret courts as claimed by opponents of TTIP."
"I am not suggesting that this potential deal is without risks. I'm not suggesting it is perfect – but at the very least people should withhold their judgement until we have a final deal that can be voted upon."
What is really depressing about the comments made so far from opponents is that they are all about party politics and trying to gain narrow party advantage. Exaggerated claims and arguments that the opponents know are baseless go unchallenged. We need a rational debate – dealing honesty with the pros and cons – rather than knee jerk reactions," concluded Mr Hayes.


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Awoke to images of the space shuttle Columbia disintegrating over Texas. Numb, head and lungs still aching from the chaos of last night.
Romantic, in a macabre way, this Roman Candle at 200,000 ft. fizzling into dust across a bright blue February sky. Graceful, in contrast to Challenger seventeen years ago, yet just as final.
As above, so below. This day seems meant for Roman Candles, whose outward flair and beauty are the very elements of their end.
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