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Well, I have seen my comments disappear for no apparent reason more than once. I never complained but given the opportunity I mention it.
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Mat Honan of Wired.com thinks the time has come to banish comments sections from web pages. Writing for Wired.com's Gadget Lab blog, Honan describes the 'collective delusion' among online publishers that comments are a necessary component of web content. Honan characterizes active comments moderation as 'a messy, frustrating and typically thankless affair that involves more time than most people have'.
I sympathize with this point of view. We've only allowed commenting on our content relatively recently, and in the case of full reviews, only in the past few weeks. And at first we had a tough time keeping up with the unwelcome comments - mostly spam - that appeared at the bottom of our articles. I don't know exactly where they come from, but there do seem to be armies of people in the world who are employed to sign up to sites like ours and post commercial spam in the comments until they either get bored or get banned. Nice work if you can get it, I imagine.
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And then of course there are the trolls. Anyone who comes to dpreview.com regularly and looks at the comments or reads our forums knows what I mean. The users that occasionally derail conversations with raving accusations of brand bias, attack other people for not knowing as much as they do, or criticize our content for not being good enough, fast enough (or long enough or strong enough, or the wrong color, etc.).
Honan calls this 'digital graffiti on online real estate', and certainly, cleaning it up takes a degree of effort. I certainly don't agree with Digg CEO Andrew McLaughlin though, when he says that 'everyone who runs a commenting system ends up killing themselves or shooting up a post office', although I do have a few more gray hairs these days than I used to.
All of us on the editorial team at DPReview have to reply to comments that most people would consider overly critical, offensive and sometimes very personal, but I wouldn't describe their authors universally as 'parasitic trolls'. Why not? Because pretty often, if a comment from one of our users gets me riled and I reply, more often than not they'll respond, apologizing for being hot-headed and thanking me for engaging with them. It doesn't happen every time, but surprisingly often, nonetheless. It's easy to cross the line when you're not sitting across a table from someone, and we've all done it.
What I've learned about commenting, either by email, private message, public comments or forum posts, is that most people are pretty reasonable most of the time. And of the comments on dpreview articles, I'd characterize the majority of the discussions as pertinent and on the whole, constructive. There's always some mud-slinging of course, but that's where active moderation comes in.
Of course it's very hard not to take some of it personally. At the end of a long day, towards the end of a long week, I for one don't aways respond as well as I should to the more personal attacks that are directed towards us. But in general, if I take a deep breath and respond politely, offer explanations and ask for constructive suggestions, the fire goes out pretty quickly. Even if not, I'll certainly feel (and sleep) better. And although it's not always easy to follow, that's the advice I give to everyone that writes for the site.
So I don't think that comments sections should be banished - partly because I know there are ways of dealing with the truly suffocating stuff like commercial spam (without giving too much away, we've managed to pretty well hide it on dpreview.com) and I've been in this business long enough to know that a lot of conversations that start badly can still end well.
But I do agree with Mat Honan's final point:
'If we want actual conversations, we have to acknowledge that those conversations are as important as anything else we publish.'
This is precisely why we continue to add new features to our forums, and if you read our weekly newsletter you'll have heard me banging on week after week about our system for creating your own articles. When we created the articles section of the site a couple of years ago, it was intended to do two things - mainly to allow us to post a more diverse range of content, spanning short reviews, technique articles, photography-related features and so on - but also, and no less importantly, to allow you to do it too. If you're a logged-in user and you've got something to say that's too long for a comments box or a forums post, why not write an article?
One of our priorities for the rest of this year and beyond is to get more comment on dpreview, to make the most of our readers' vast reserve of knowledge and experience and make our site a better resource for people who want to learn about photography. I want you to talk to one another, and continue to talk to us. Because the more you do, the less noise there will be.
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Well, I have seen my comments disappear for no apparent reason more than once. I never complained but given the opportunity I mention it.
I don't have a problem with photography. Just people in general. If I could just do away with clients, then my production would go so much smoother. Oh, wait.. :)
It's easy to stand ones ground when a subject is based on an actual experience, and I'll give weight to others whom may disagree, so long as they can prove that they actually did the work and have a real experience to back it up.
Too many folks are just soundboards of others, or decide to treat members as punching bags. Perhaps there is a definitive medical reason or diagnosis for this. Whatever it is, it can be toxic. Dump their accounts and they'll create a new alias and come back swinging.
It's why I fully believe in a "real name" forum. Don't hide behind an alias. I accept that not everyone is going to agree with what I have to say. Good! Correct me, if I'm wrong, and don't generalize. If you have an actual experience to back it up, then share it.
What i also like is that DPR staff is active in the comment section.
We all remember the Hasselblad Lunar and Adobe Creative Cloud.
The articles were ok... I almost passed them.
Then the comments...
Hours and hours of fresh, original entertainment.
May I respectfully suggest How To Be Outraged On The Internet:
Seriously, this could have been written by Ken Rockwell (and he'd even get the joke.)
There exist places where commenting provides a valuable service, providing context or additional examples or helpful feedback.
With my apologies for contributing to the negativity already present on this post, dpreview is not one of those places.
I'm not sure how so many angry, mean people ended up in one place, but they did. And changing that culture will take a lot. It's especially funny when I compare it to some of the photography groups I belong to, where members are generally supportive, even if the group is completely internet based.
So, for me, on this site, I'm with @typicalarmchairphotographycritic - comments are punishment for scrolling too far down.
Its just not here, and just not now. I have seen this in video card BB's way back in the 80's. It's a community thing. You think its bad here, try hanging out on a pick up truck forum. Anonimity breeds bravery and contempt.
Control-freak, everybody must think like me moderators MAKE THEIR OWN labor by presiding over every conversation to keep their readers from, oh my, hearing the unapproved thoughts from independent thinkers.
given 99% of what we delete relates to someone's sister making $8000 on her computer last month, this comment shows an admirably open-minded approach to spam.
@Simon. Things are removed, and threads locked. And that without any spam at all. Without anything really to complain about. IMHO.
Now, maybe there are much more removed that I don't know anything about. Those real spam stuff. I thank the moderators for that and the work they do.
But what I see is the totally sane things that is altered, removed or blocked. That I do not like.
I have noticed some things shuffled around, deleted, removed.
Any time I have seen things deleted, it has been easy to understand why. While I may not have asked them to be deleted them myself, I didn't miss seeing them when they were gone. I have seen no troubles with this deleting thing.
Some things get moved from forum to forum and I sometimes wonder why. Generally it makes sense. Sometimes it does not make sense (to me) but it is no harm in the end...
I haven't noticed any truly insightful comments being deleted. Well, one mentioned something about '42', but I think the Vogons got it...
Ok you're talking about forums, on an article about comments. We don't really moderate the comments unless we really have to.
OK. My bad.
But without comment sections, how will we learn that 911 was an inside job, the moon landings were faked, that the president was born in Kenya, etc.?
I guess I am in a minority in that I find that very often, I learn something from a comment that I probably wouldn't have learned otherwise. Discussion in comments sections, particularly on very technical issues will either clarify something for me or drive me to further research on the internet. I read at least some of the comments on any article I read and find it easy to skip the nonsense and focus on the good comments. On more than one occasion, some very funny comments have been posted that give me a belly laugh that just makes my day. I'm OK with comment sections.
You are absolutely not in the minority. I value the opportunity to make my views known- once in a while when I dispair about the lack of foresight or the intent of manufactuers to aggressively get the "buck" without a thought to the consumers wants or needs, I might say something "difficult" but always nicely.
For me that's the main reason for reading DPreview comments.
The problem with many forums today is that they are run and moderated by too many people that are politically correct lunatics that are biased, petty and immature. They like to portray themselves as liberal, fair and openminded but in fact they are the opposite of that. DPreview is guilty of that.
For example....?
Clearly the bias affects editorial content. However the irony is that the comments section is usually more useful than the reviews. The comments have point-counterpoint discussion, whereas the reviews are (sensu stricto...) infotainment monologues.
The comments are the helpful part. The actual info is frequently in the comments.
If DPR really believes in public commentary, they should allow public commentary on the actions of their moderators because the moderation is, to be kind, inconsistent. In lieu of this, every action their moderators take should be "moderated" by the management of DPR and reversible if need be. DPR seems to have no idea what is going on in their forums. I've had an entire post deleted for one "offending" acronym. That post took a considerable amount of time to think through and compose. Deleting the entire post and thus destroying my intellectual property was more than moderation. It was censorship on the part of the moderator. Bear in mind the acronym was a form of WTF which a search of the same DPR forum where my post was moderated/censored will uncover hundreds of posts using the form.
Read the fine print regarding intellectual property (hint: the short answer is "no.").
That said, as far as I can work out if a post or if an entire article generates clicks, the party's on. Content is secondary or even tertiary as long as people see it -- and buy stuff.
Another thought,
If you're going to be more involved with comments, and placing a higher priority on comments, will that be at the expense of doing reviews?
Thank you very much for de-spamming work.
You have my appreciation for allowing comments. You also have my sympathy for being the one who has to "moderate" such things. As a long time reader and sometime poster of the forum sections, I will say that I have received much more help and understanding from the serious posters than harm from the trolls and "nattering nay-bobs of negativism."
As for the trolls, etc. all I can say (to paraphrase a line in the movie Cool Hand Luke), "What we have here is a superior case of inferior communications."
Please continue ad infinitum and don't let the ad nauseum deter you. IMHO, it is a great service to all photographers you provide!
Personally, comments are nothing more to me than punishment for scrolling too far south in an article. I am perfectly fine with forums; a place separate from my other net activity where I can willingly go to chat (or argue) with others… unfortunately, it seems like the internet really wants me to know what other people are thinking about AT ALL TIMES. That's why there are twitter feeds on the side of the page, comments on the bottom, and customer reviews on almost everything I search for.
Now, I'm not just someone who wants to tune-out the rest of the world: comments can occasionally be useful for offering aa unique insight, and you might even find someone who can offer an opinion without acting like an ass, but to get to them you have to slog through a diverse cast of annoying commenters.
If DPR wants to keep putting up with them for whatever reason then that's their prerogative. Honestly though, I think the world would be a better place without them.
The whole point of comments is it transform the internet into interactive media.
Without having comments, the internet just becomes an electronic book, newspaper, or TV show. And even they allow "letter to the editor" or some sort of feedback.
Once you combine comments with some sort of rating system, the user gets feedback of some sort, even if there is no reply.
I feel the pain for web masters. The idea is wading through constructive criticisms and destructive criticism. Censorship isn't a solution, because censorship really turns people off, sometimes creative people with genuine ideas. Spams have no place whatsoever, however.
This has to be the single dumbest Comment section related to a DPR article since the inception of the site. And, after reading through most of the comments I want to puke so I think I will. I am not a fan of DPR forums or articles but they provide occasional entertainment.
Curiously enough, your arrogant disposition left me feeling a wee bit toward the vomiting end of the scale. For decades, many people KNEW that the major news networks and most of the big-city newspapers in America were run by liberal atheist liars. Yet their fake TV news programs permitted NO feedback while the newspaper owners decided which letters to the editor would be allowed public airing.
Now we are in paradise at last, the ability to hear what honest citizens think of stuff. And let me tell you, the results aren't pretty down below stories by ABC, NBC, NPR (which started heavily moderating) and CBS. AP stories also.
Thanks to talk radio, Fox News, other regular people on the internet and forums, we have entered an era where masses are learning true history and getting real news. THEY are speaking up. Yayyyyyy.
As for camera / product reviews, VERY OFTEN the reviewer fails to mention 80% of the features that annoy the crud out of me. Yet I learn about them in the comments.
Thanks to talk radio, Fox News, other regular people on the internet and forums, we have entered an era where masses are learning true history and getting real news.
I am curious if and how comments have contributed to improvements in dpreview and even in product manufacturing.
They provided much needed money (=clicks) for DPR.
Ask yourself that question. If you designed a camera, would you not want to read the comment section below reviews to obtain direct feedback from buyers or potential customers?
That is my point. Remember the Toyota Echo? That was the result of Toyata doing exhastive research to see what young people want. They did their survey's at schools and rock concerts and the result was the Echo. More retired people bought it than youts. It screwed up Toyota's target demographic (the idea being that young buyers become repeat buyers). BTW it was a good car, just not stylish.
MAYBE more useful info can SOMETIMES be gleaned from comment boards than by conducting expensive market research.
The trouble is sometimes the Dunning Kruger phenomenon. People who have no idea that their opinions make no sense derail conversations. Sometimes people who have no idea how their cameras work go into lengthy and wildly speculative debates over things that can be looked up easily in the user manuals or in physics textbooks.
Down-voting is needed.
"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision." - Bertrand Russell
I didn't know it had a name.
Can you cite an example from the DPReview comments?
Anyhow I don't think there's any reason not to ask how such and such works on a gear comment board.
Not clear how long descriptions of solvable problems derail the thread of comments, simply explain how the feature works or where to look it up and move on.
(I can remember being wrong about software features, but contrary comments made me download the latest version and do a recheck.)
HowaboutRAW, I don't think 'how does exposure compensation work?' is an example. I don't think an aversion to reading a manual is an example. If anything, asking a question can be evidence the person has doubts or realises something aint right.
Still, there are times people get stuck on some ideas...
PS - doing a recheck sounds anti- Dunning-Kruger
Huh, why are you bringing up exposure compensation? And if some one raises that question: Politely and quickly answer it and move on.
(Of course such an answer can elicit all sorts of contrary claims---see claims that bokeh and shallow depth of field is best done with huge telephoto lenses; a claim only true under extremely limited conditions with basically nonexistent lenses.)
The original comment contained "debates over things that can be looked up easily in the user manuals" and you asked about examples from the forums.
I took that to mean you might disagree with that. I somewhat disagree, myself.
I don't think someone asking a Q, even if because they didn't want to read the manual, deserves a label like D-K. I used EC as an example of a common Q.
Still, there are D-K moments to be had...
PS - likely Andy doesn't mean failure to read the manual is D-K. Arguing a dead horse about something stated in the manual is another thing.
I place the keyboard at my feet and take 3 steps back with my hands on my head.
Ah, I should have clearly written: "linked example".
As I'm sure you know sometimes knowing what to look for in the manual is more than half the battle.
A more obscure example right now I'm trying to figure out if firmware update 1.14 or 1.13 for the Samsung NX20 increased the raw shooting rate of the camera. Forums, Google searches and the Samsung website don't provide answers.
I don't think comments are any issue whatsoever, but anonymity clearly is.
(posted by an anonymous member)
also, the fact that a recent passport-type photo and full address of the poster are not shown are additional issues that plague us.
I think the majority of people here cannot stand each other. Count me among that group. Many comments help fuel the foregoing statement.
This story is dumb and the author should be banned.
Just kidding!! Good stuff!!
I appreciate the comment section, and if the editors chose to thin out the vitriolic comments and/or promote the interesting and useful comments to the top, it would meet with my complete satisfaction. Even if it means having some of my comments edited for brevity in mid-sent...
I'd have to agree. All too often mindless complainers get the most attention from the moderators, with pointless accusations of brand bias, mistaken criticisms of methods used, or just here rudeness.
Other than showing their openness to engage with this, it's all a distraction (if an amusing one) from those users who are contributing genuinely useful content. I sometimes wish they'd just delete such comments and privately explain to users how they are breaking the rules than give them so much attention.
I do respect them for allowing comments on reviews at all, though, which can have useful feedback from like-minded enthusiasts. Yet on the whole, the quality of discussion in the 'self-regulated' forums is far higher than in the comments section, this one included!
I can't stand the shills. They come in the comments or forums and shill some site, acting like it is regular conversation. One example is the user who shilled some memory card recovery service. It was their only two posts and awoke an old thread to post. Sometimes it is hard to tell if they are for real unless you check their profile.
Comment sections are a huge revenue boon for website owners. It brings people back to the page and keep them there.. and the participants are interested in that topic (e.g. photography), which lets you negotiate higher rates for ads.
If DPR were just articles and reviews, the web traffic would be 10% of what it is.
"If DPR were just articles and reviews, the web traffic would be 10% of what it is."
Oh yeah?
i count three factual errors in your comment, and one with a grain of truth. Any idea which is which?
So @Simon and @Barney, do you dare stop all comments on this site, including forums, and test your belief? Because I assume your both comments here means that you don't think DPReview is depending on the users writing. Or?
@ Roland, I don't really understand your post but no we're not going to do that.
I thought that you challenged Jogger's claim about 10% traffic.
I think that on this site very clever and interesting comments (generally). Very seldom I meet roughness or spam. On my photosite in Russian people write very evil comments which are often offensive and offensive, haughty. Often people want to offend the author of article simply that he made good work and slightly was mistaken at the description of any function, for example cameras.
The comment section is often the most interesting part of any site.
Comment section is a necessity if you don't want dictorship. If you didn't read the comment section on yesterday's New York Times headline "Confident Syria Used Chemicals, U.S. Mulls Action", you would think most American support Obama's action. Reading the comments and you'd find about 80~90% of American are against another war and raise question about the narrative of the article. NYTimes' comment already needs to be approved before appearing (70% of mine sensored) but if you take that away, it would just be official government mouthpiece.
Did the comments section reference a poll about the level of support, or are you assuming that those comments are somehow representative?
So ... By reading comments on a single web article from a single newspaper, you can predict with a 10 percent margin of error what the entire people of a nation with a 315 million inhabitants think about a foreign policy issue?
I am not entirely convinced comment sections at web sites really do much to prevent dictatorship, but they sure can be entertaining ;)
Or as a previous reply said: D-K
" it would just be official government mouthpiece"
It would not be government mounthpiece, it would be (and is) a private propaganda machine, just like other "news" outlets. If Military-Industrial Complex wants more profits, they use them, quite effectively.
It was one of my PhD students who created the very controversial Third Voice years ago, but I've never been inspired to enable comments on my research group's WWW site. I think they increase site traffic and do provide some value in both feedback and identifying related material, but filtering seems problematic both in terms of the effort required and risk incurred (there are things us .edu and .org sites just cannot have on our sites, not even momentarily).
I've commented plenty on DPReview, and I consider this my test case of how useful commenting and reading comments can be. Thus far, not really all that useful. The forums are a different story -- much better content:fluff ratio. Still not sure if a forum or a wiki works best; forums add new (temporarily interesting) things more cleanly, but wikis avoid duplication better.
Wired doesn't like comments because they are vivisected in their own comments on a regular basis. Often for good reason.
You can't just throw together a comments section and hope for the best, I am afraid. Even banning the abusive behaviour is not enough - you actually have to nurture a particular tone (or culture, if you will) that fits with the rest of the content on the site - by introducing interesting topics, suppressing bickering and generally fostering a pleasant, helpful environment.
Can you, DPreview people, see yourself being *that* involved? Because otherwise it's just like the rest of Internet: loud, stupid and mostly misinformed, with an occasional sparkle of brilliance :)
Here on DPreview (without pointing any fingers) there are communities that are helpful, witty and generally a pleasure to visit, and then there are exact opposites of that. Guess which ones are in majority :)
A major reason to allow comments is to entice people to come back to a site, whether to add more comments, or whether to rouse other people's comments.
Are mainy of the comments uncivil, sloppy, or worthless? Of course. The main reason for that is that people can give themselves fantasy names ("Carlos Danger," etc). Invisibility brings out the worst.
The most obvious cure is to adopt a "real name" policy. Anyone who visits blogs or sites that require real names will think they are on a different planet: adults who think twice about what they say or respond; people who avoid excess or insults so as not embarrass themselves.
yes, because asking someone to create user accounts using their real name always results in such actions. just look at Facebook.
I used to believe that one should use one's "real name." Today, there are just too many nut-cases out there for me to use my real name... Hence, "Jersey John" only reveals a general geographical location. JC PS: So... jkoch2 is your real name ;)?
I think using a "real name" system is a good idea. People definitely enjoy the anonymity of the web as a tool to attack people who don't agree with their own self-absorbed views. If people were held accountable for their actions then maybe they would be more inclined to speak civilly rather than act like they are in some wild west saloon.
Obviously I use my real name and I'm willing to be held accountable for any mistakes that I make. As far as nut-cases go, well, most internet nut-cases could probably find out who you are some way or another. They seem to be obsessive about things like that.
Using my real name has caused me problems with internet psychos from time to time, but I sometimes have to deal with psychos when walking down the street as well. Such is life.
Having a combination of first name and last name that is unique in the world Google still turns up stuff I wrote in 2006 on car forums or a magazine forum. Although I'm not ashamed of anything I wrote online I would not want a future employer to dig up my complete life and areas of interest with one click. I was also actively reporting birding observations to an online database. Using my real name would make it possible for a potential burglar to predict when I would be out of the house and for how long. Using your real name is fine if you're a professional photographer and want to be seen and found by potential customers but I like to feel free online in what I write and keep some distance from my private life.
I find many comments helpful, with useful links, etc.
I also think that a 'comments' section allows knowledgeable readers to add their two cents in where, in many cases, the original author may have done so but could not, due to the nature of writing a widely-available piece (where one has to be more politically correct).
Does anyone actually read all the comments?
I actually read quite a few comments but once it starts to be overly negative. I move on.
Without comments and forums traffic on this site would fall off a cliff.
It's like democracy. Everyone gets to vote, even the daft, the dumb and the antisocial. It sounds like a recipe for disaster until you consider the alternative.
Even when people react badly to an article or another comment, it's a sign that they are unsure of themselves, and therefore probably reluctantly taking things on board.
Yep. Comments keep people engaged.
"Without comments and forums traffic on this site would fall off a cliff."
And there is the real reason for the editors of this site to disagree with Honan. Commercial self-interest. Not the stuff he actually wrote in the article.
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Yep. Comments keep people engaged.
But does it keep them married?
@TN args
Commercial self interest is not incompatible with the point that engagement is a way to encourage people to come to a site, which is why you are here for a start.
It's commercial self interest to make products that people need and want and let them choose. Would you rather someone else decided for you?
If you hate it so much, you can leave any time.
57even makes ridiculous comments. Where did I say I hate it? I note you did not disagree with my point at all, so why the stupid 'get lost' comment at the end?
I like comments because the occasional one can be useful; even some of the very rude ones. Some of them can even be funny.
In fact, I've learned quite a bit from reading comments sections, not only here but elsewhere such as online newspapers. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people out there!
If you are going to delete 'trolling' comments then you are against free speech and you may as well not have comments.
Not so. This site is private and speech is therefore not free. Are people free to yell whatever obscenities they choose at you in your own space, Mattoid?
Sometimes rights are misunderstood.
Free speech is not a license for rudeness, grafitti, or anonymous slander. Habeas corpus came before freedom of speech. To this day, many countries have laws that protect reputation, privacy, or state security, without anything resembling a First Amendment right.
A good troll causes a flurry of responses, with people checking out later to see the progress and respond to the responses. An active community of talented trolls is a great asset of any ad-supported website and should be cherished as they ;) are money makers.
"Free speech is not a license for rudeness, grafitti, or anonymous slander".
Sorry, but it is. (I assume you are talking about not physical graffiti)
Just another Canon shooter, I get where you are coming from. If you mean your comments 'in general', great. If you mean this site, you got the aggravating Terms of Service to deal with.
even if you do mean your comment 'in general', test it out during a discussion with anyone that has authority. No anti-government sentiment here. Just a fact. Speak freely during a traffic stop :^)
1. Free speech does not mean that a forum is obliged to keep every post. They can remove everything they want. If you have something to say, that's your call. No one else has to repeat it or publish it.
2. There is no limit to free speech. You can say whatever you want. Even being rude doing so. Otherwise the speech is not free. But ... if you break a law with your speech, you might have to go to prison.
First, don't sweat the small stuff or the small people. Second, early on in our web development years (anyone recall the 90s?) we came to the obvious conclusion that engagement drives traffic. Wired is full of crapola. But buyer beware is always at play, eh? And then there is a free speech issue vs control and power. March on!
Surely they can configure/buy some software that would effectively weed-out the spam and the violent commentd and if some is left-over, who cares? Ignore it, respond, whatever. Imagine if in normal conversations, people had to edit out other people's responses just to suit 3rd parties that might overhear.
you are a troll if you "criticize our content" ;)
I love comment sections. The reactions to an article sometimes tell more than the article itself. Often the comments will discuss a subject with more depth than the article or will bring up good counterpoints. Also, commenters can be very witty.
Comments increase the traffic and increase the ad revenue.
I applaud their move in my comment :)
"I sympathize with this point of view."
"What I've learned about commenting"
I? Who wrote the article? Damned if I can figure it out...
Weren't me.
I also noticed 'I' has no byline. Maybe the Wired people stopped by and dropped off an editorial.
i think the website just became self-aware.
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DPReview, good to bring an article like this to the surface....two humble comments:
1. Can an enthusiast photographer submit an article for review? What fraction of your audience is the occasional but passionate photo taker who wants to capture better photos of their kids in daily life (my working title to submit, by the way...).
2. The "dislike" feature button was mentioned in this tread. My comment would be then how to manage a popular "dislike" comment...censoring it would place it as "inapproprate" and lump it with a spammers and/or clearly inflammatory personal comments. Most unsavory comments are not inappropriate.
"Disliking" may not enhance searching for the useful comments. Rather, letting it stand will highlight that comment and perhaps galvanize others to do the same. The comment is now popular, but not necessarily useful.
We may all have to read through and simply look over the ones we don't agree with.
They tried a 'Dislike' button for a while. I don't think I miss it.
Some sites hide the comments that are showered with dislike. The comment can still be viewed if it is clicked. Is this the type of thing you have in mind ?
To answer your first question, yes, you can submit an article that could end up published on the DPR homepage. If you mouseover your name (top-right of the page) you can 'Manage Articles'. Write your article and submit it for publication. If we like it enough, it could end up being seen by everyone.
Jeff, I will do what I can to provide an entertaining and informative article for consideration.
Thank you!
The reason for HAVING an Internet is to be able to comment pretty much exactly how you feel, and without there being any repercussions in the "real world." Long live forums & aliases. (But yes, ditch the spam, I detest any useless advertising & such.)
Sometimes it turns out strange ways.
Last year one of my favorite photographers put up a new article about his methods of post processing his images.
After following his blog and website for years, I decided to enter my one and the only comment for his article. It was the very right article to share my opinions of his photoshop editing.
My comments included my appreciations of his photography, writing skills and managing his blog -as well as my feedback to his methods of editing. No matter how respectingly I wrote, he took it very personal. He was very offended. First he commented back to my comment. Starting nicely, finishing madly. I could feel he upseted himself while writing his own comment.
Next day he deleted my and his own comment from his blog. Deleted me from his following and blocked my comments. Then he took the entire article down. And next day, he put up a new article all about it. Without mentioning my name, he trashed me and tried to take his frustration.
I felt sad. And found him on Facebook to send him a personal message. (I was not allowed to contact him on google+ platform) on this Facebook message I introduced my self with my real name with my credentials as an artist and photographer. Just to tell him I was not some troller. I was a real person writing. I included my apologies.
Weeks later, I observed his post production style to be changing. I felt my comment actually helped him to think, improve his editing. (Not over saturating, over contrasting, extreme hdr look shadows highlights detailing his pictures etc. ) He appreantly finally digested my opinions even though it was harsh experience he put himself through.
But I lost my entire enthusiasm looking at his website even though I always liked his work. His personality interfering with his work and with his connection to his followers caused me to delete his bookmark from my favorites while I believe he had sleepless nights.
I learned a lesson. I put limits to my honesty writing my comments.
I got a shock a while back when a thug and all-round bruiser on one forum (begins with 'F') where urban warfare had broken out stated posting regularly on another (begins with 'P') noted for its helpfulness and bonhomie. Couldn't have been nicer, fitted right in. Just goes to show, human nature.
The thing to remember about comments is that all reasonable people will instantly recognize when other people are making unreasonable comments. It all works out in the end, even if some idiots post stupid comments :-)
I have found the forums and comments on DPR to be very helpful and informative. After reading your reviews and the comments that follow it has helped me make purchases and photographic decisions.
Many times the comments bring information that is helpful for those of us that have not had the varying experience of others.
Yes, there are those that only have negative comments about a given brand of products or are always challenging a finding. However, within a short time there is another response clearing up the issue.
Now that I am semi-retired and actively pursuing my love for photography; when I read an article of interest and have questions they are answered by comment-ors as well as your staff.
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Some of the rural post offices throughout the nation set to be closed by the Postal Service could be retained if Congress provides the agency what amounts to an $11 billion bailout.
But the reprieve will be only temporary unless the Postal Service finds ways to balance its bottom line.
The Senate approved an $11 billion infusion of cash this week, by a 62-37 vote.
If approved by the House of Representatives and signed into law by President Barack Obama, the measure will postpone closings of about 3,700 post offices and 252 mail sorting facilities. But providing the $11 billion will merely delay cutbacks that are inevitable unless the Postal Service finds and implements basic reforms.
At present, Postal Service officials seem to have no long-range plan to modernize the agency. By that, we mean the Postal Service continues to operate under a 20th-century model, with little recognition of how to deal with competition from electronic message delivery and efficient private-sector package shippers.
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Milton Berle was television's first superstar and remains one of America's top comedians.
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After his debut in "The Perils of Pauline," Berle played kid parts in a number of other silent films in which the big names of the day starred--Douglas Fairbanks, Mary Pickford, Corinne Griffith, Marie Dressler, Mabel Normand and even Charlie Chaplin. "If you can find prints of any of those films today," grinned Berle, "look for a kid with Bugs Bunny teeth--that was me then, and, now that I think of it, that's me now."
Some of those films took Mama Berle and Milton all the way to Hollywood, where the budding comedian got his first glimpse of orange trees and coconut palms. However, after Berle outgrew little kid parts--and the First World War created a shortage of film--movie work on the Coast grew scarce. So it was back to New York to make the rounds of casting agencies again and pick up split-week engagements in small-time vaudeville houses and nightclubs with a female dancing partner he had linked up with at a dancing school in Harlem his mother had sent him to. Their act earned between $3 and $5 a performance, which wasn't much--but then bread wasn't $2 a loaf in 1917, either.
Berle remembered that for a period in his life Mama could afford to serve only rice to the family for dinner. "We ate so much rice I got up in the morning and did my own laundry," he added jokingly.
Berle's career began its slow but steady climb upward after Mama took him to a music publisher's office in Tin Pan Alley one day and had him put on an impromptu singing performance for the agents and song pluggers who were sitting around puffing cigars. A man named Schoenstein heard Milton and hired him to sing at the Mt. Morris Theater on 116th Street and Fifth Avenue in Harlem the following Thursday night.
Thursday at Mt. Morris was "songwriters' night," when composers of pop tunes were encouraged to get up and plug their newest "standards."
Because Berle was under 16, the rules of the Gerry Society prevented him from performing onstage at night. The organization had been founded to curb the exploitation of child actors by greedy parents. But Schoenstein got around this obstacle by having the young Berle sing while standing in a box at the side of the stage.
The songwriter that evening turned out to be Irving Berlin, who was there to introduce his latest song, "Oh, How I Hate to Get Up in the Morning," which was the big number from his army show, Yip, Yip, Yaphank. Berle sang it while wearing a Boy Scout uniform. This performance was heard by a small-time producer named E. W. Wolf, who packaged kid acts to work around the Philadelphia area. Wolf made Berle an offer that Mama couldn't refuse, even though it meant moving to the City of Brotherly Love.
Kid acts were all the rage in those days because children worked cheap. A fellow named Gus Edwards was making a fortune producing fare like "School Boys and Girls" and "Kid Kabaret." Such vehicles gave a start to Eddie Cantor, Walter Winchell, Lila Lee and Georgie Price.
"I clicked in most of the junk Wolf put me in, which led to my being seen by J. J. Shubert," continued Berle. "He hired me to come to New York and appear in an updated version of the 'Florodora Sextette,' which had originally been produced in 1900. Now, this was 1920, but audiences still appreciated looking at sexy girls. Grown-up girls, of course. But I was hired along with five other boys my age to do a number with six girls our age--a parody of the grown-up Florodora girls. We were billed as the 'Florodora Sextette of 1940.' "
The Florodora show tried out in Atlantic City, Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., and Baltimore before it opened at the Century Theatre in New York City to smash reviews. The baby sextette was singled out for special mention by the critics--as were Milton and his girl partner.
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Step: 1
Cut six 2" circles from Orange paper using circle template and pencil. Cut 3 circles of same size from Yellow paper.
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Lightly sketch jack-o-lantern faces on three of the orange circles. Cut out with craft knife.
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Use Aleene's® Acid-Free Tacky Glue™ to glue the jack-o-lantern faces onto the yellow circles. Turn over (yellow side up) and place jack-o-lanterns vertically about 1" apart. Lay black string over the backs of jack-o-lanterns in the center, with about 2½" extra string at the top.
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Apply glue to one side of remaining orange circles and glue on top of yellow circle, sandwiching string in between. (The pumpkins will dangle from top of page.)
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Center the first step directly under the bottom of door and glue. Stick three Pop Dots to back of second step (one on each end and one in center) and position below the first stair to make it dimensional. For the third stair, stack two Pop Dots (sides and center) and position below second stair.
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Cut two ¾" x 3½" strips from the green paper for stair posts and two thinner strips for the banisters. Refer to photo for placement and glue in place.
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Cut a 1¼" circle from yellow paper using circle template. Glue on right side next to top window. Trace and cut out bat. Glue on top of moon.
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Sergio Arteaga remembers what the Latino Club did for him while attending Western Nevada College. Now, the 2011 WNC graduate wants to provide the same positive experience for students attending WNC's Douglas campus.
Arteaga has started the Diversity Student Club, the first club on the Douglas campus since it opened in 1997.
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We really enjoyed this park. Check in was very efficient. I asked for a satellite friendly site, and was asked if my satellite was on the front or back of my rig! They really know their sites. We were escorted to our pull through site, which easily accommodated our 67' rig without unhooking the toad. The utilities worked and were in the right place, something that many parks seem to have trouble with. The parking pad was gravel, surrounded by well maintained green grass. There are many sites with shade, if that is your desire. The restrooms and laundry were clean. Laundry is still only $1 to wash, and $1 to dry. We had a tasty large pizza delivered from their store, for about $10. They have a nice selection of sandwiches, salads, pizzas, and even breakfast items, all of which can be delivered (no charge for delivery). There was some road noise, but not too objectionable, at least with our windows closed. There are a number of long term residents in RVs, but their sites appeared neat, and they caused us no problems. Our Verizon phones and aircard worked well. This is a great overnight stop, and we will definitely stay here when passing through in the future. The rate reflects the Passport America rate, which is only good for one night.
Mountain Home, Idaho
Mountain Home RV Park
[ 9/10 ]
As the other reviewers stated, this is a beautiful clean park. The hosts were very friendly and helpful. The sites are huge, with nice concrete parking pads and small concrete patios. I had only one disappointment, and I will take part of the blame for that. We were escorted to our site, which turned out to be a side by side site. As you probably realize this puts the driver's sides of two adjacent rigs very close together. I HATE side by side sites. I should have asked for a different site (many others were available), but I didn't. So, if you don't want a side by side site, just tell them ahead of time, and I am sure you will be accommodated. The park location is excellent, just far enough off the interstate that noise is not a problem. We enjoyed walking to the Wal Mart, about .3 miles away. We visited this park over the Memorial Day weekend, thinking that it was not the sort of park to attract families on a holiday weekend. We were right! It was wonderfully peaceful! Another big plus, is that washing of rigs is permitted. The water is soft enough that water spotting was not a problem. The laundry room was the nicest we have encountered in 25 years of RVing and nearly 4 years of full timing. Very clean, with reasonably priced machines, and a television. We will definitely return!
Stanley, Idaho
FOREST SERVICE - Sunny Gulch Campground
[ 9/10 ]
We found this to be a very pleasant campground. It is set among lodge pole pine, with views of the Sawtooth Mountains. The Salmon River runs adjacent to the campground, and can be heard from much of the campground. Only a few sites have views of the river. The roads and spurs are paved, as is the area around the picnic tables and fire pits. Each site also has a leveled tent pad. Overall, the facilities are excellent. Water is by hand pump only. When I filled a bucket, the water didn't look very clean. I am sure it is safe, but I would bring my own water for cooking and drinking. The vault toilets are in modern concrete buildings. They are spotlessly clean and very fresh smelling. There are no showers in the campground, although showers are available near Redfish Lake. The roads are easy to navigate for big rigs. Many sites will accommodate a 40' motorhome with toad. Our site handled our 40' motorhome, LARGE toad, and motorcycle with room to spare. Of the campgrounds in the immediate area, this seems the best suited for larger RVs. Some sites are not as level as they could be- we ended up with both front wheels of our motorhome off the ground. Most sites are well separated, but there is relatively little undergrowth for privacy. The lodge pole pines will provide minimal shade. You can hear the traffic on the highway, but we didn't find it objectionable. We were pleasantly surprised to have decent Verizon cellular service. Internet access thru our aircard was intermittent, but better than nothing!This location is less than 3 miles from Redfish Lake. There is a dump station available near Redfish Lake, and another one near the ranger station, about 3 miles north of the campground. Both dump stations have a $5.00 fee, and drinking water is available at each. The town of Stanley is about 5 miles away, and has several restaurants, a small grocery, fuel, lodging, and post office. We will definitely return to Sunny Gulch when in the area!
Las Vegas, Nevada
Oasis Las Vegas RV Resort
[ 3/10 ]
Sites here are way too small. Our 40' motorhome had to be parked so that the front was only 6" from the trailer in front of us, and we were still barely out of the street. There was enough parking space for our large toad, but that filled up the site. We kept our shades pulled the whole time we were there, because you couldn't see anything but other RVs. We left our AC fan on all night, in a futile attempt to drown out the freeway and airplane noise. No way this park is worth $40- but that is Vegas! We won't stay here again!
Pahrump, Nevada
Pahrump Station RV Park
[ 7/10 ]
The park is well maintained. It is conveniently located to casinos, restaurants, etc. There are a variety of sites, including many very large paved pull thrus. The paved area of our site was approximately 20' x 75'! Some of the smaller sites are nicely landscaped and shaded.
Pahrump, Nevada
Lakeside Casino & RV Park
[ 10/10 ]
I think this is the nicest private campground we have ever stayed at, in more than 25 years of RVing! The park is very well designed and laid out. The sites are easy to back into, and the utilities are in the right spot. Pretty simple things, but so many parks can't seem to get it right. The entire park is very attractive and well maintained. It is literally an oasis in the desert! We enjoyed many walks around the lake. There are paddle boats and kayaks available at no charge. They currently have a promotion where you can get a free nights camping with every $25 in fuel purchases from Terribles stations. This allowed us to stay for free. Unfortunately, we had only made reservations for 3 nights, and they were very busy. We will definitely be back!
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"German Day is an academic and artistic competition revolving around the German language and culture," said Cathy Altmeyer, professor in modern languages at W&J. "Area students prepare for months for this event and perform plays and musical numbers, recite poetry, create art and write essays in German. This is a great community event that shows how important languages are in area schools and how much of a focus the region puts on international programs."
Hosting German Day is consistent with W&J's focus on all things international, from its language and literature majors to international business, said Altmeyer, adding that Germany is becoming increasingly important to the United States economy and a growing program at W&J.
"There is also a Culture Bowl competition during which students answer questions in German about German culture, and a poetry recitation competition. This year, the W&J and University of Pittsburgh German Clubs will also have a trivia contest with the students," Altmeyer said.
Financial support for the event is provided by the Bayer Corporation and Hogfather's Restaurant, and in-kind support is provided by W&J and the German, Swiss and Austrian embassies.
Students who scored high on the National German Exam will also be recognized. Nearly 500 Western Pennsylvania and West Virginia students took this exam in January. Students scoring in the 90th percentile and above are eligible to win a study trip to Germany this coming summer.
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