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Any class action suits for NIBCO for its 1970's type M copper water line that falls apart?
Same thing. House built in 2005. Pipe has split 4 times this year. Insurance paid for clean up not replacing pipe. Builder is bankrupt. Plumber is out of business. Called Nibco and they will not take ownership for CPI pipe. Any lawsuits yet against Nibco??
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Any class action suits for NIBCO for its 1970's type M copper water line that falls apart?
We are new to the site. We have had 6 leaks in NIBCO PEX hot water pipes since last January. NIBCO offered to replace the pipe for free==not the installation. Our insurance company has requested the latest piece for independent testing. If we don't get satisfaction from NIBCO in reimbursing us for new installation of pipe--not from NIBCO, we would be interested in exploring a class action suit. The plumbers estimate is reasonable, but the cutting of drywall, tile, floors etc. is another matter.
We are definitely interested in a class action suit
Now you just need a sleazy lawyer that will get 75% of the proceeds instead of the class parties.
Just found this website after experiencing our own issues. We've had 5 leaks in the red 3/4" DuraPex (hot water) and I ended up replacing all of that pipe but did not replace any of the other. I assumed we had gotten a bad batch and the rest was okay.
Today the contractors were scheduled to arrive to begin fixing all of the holes in the ceilings and walls, but last night we had another leak in a red 1/2" pipe (still hot water). So I called them to postpone their work so I can get all of the 1/2" replaced as well.
Those of you that had your pipes replaced, did you have all of the cold water lines replaced also or did you just do the hot water side?
We just bought this house in Lake Wylie, SC 1 year ago (it was built in 2006) and I loved the fact it had so many bathrooms. Now I am cursing that we have 7 bathrooms and 2 kitchens to completely replumb!! All of the Durapex was dated from 2005 and 2005 manufacturing dates.
After reading all of the previous posts, it looks like it is useless to contact the company, but count me in if it is possible to file a class action.
One thing to keep in mind is that one of the selling points of PEX was it's ability to withstand freezing without bursting. This was a big selling point but has proven to be untrue. The manufacturers clearly state that the piping should not be installed in places where freezing can occur or steps should be taken by the installer to make sure that the pipes do not freeze. This includes your garage, outside walls, attic spaces and crawlspace. You may think that if you have your kitchen sink on the outside wall and it's insulated that the pipes are insulated as well but they may not be. If you install pex in an outside wall past the centerline of the stud and put insulation on the front side of the piping, you are exposing the pex to the cold outside air and not allowing any of the warm air in the room to keep the pipes from freezing. Pipes installed in attics spaces, even with individual pipe insulation will still freeze, it's not enough protection. All your doing is keeping the freezing cold in the pipes when the attic space heats up during the day. PEX needs to be installed so that warmth from the living space can get to the pipes. In the wall you would need to have the pipes moved to the front side of the centerline of the studs and have house insulation placed BEHIND the pipes and have NO insulation in front of the pipes, same for the attic and crawl. Keep the pipes as close as possible to the floor or ceiling and put insulation either under the pipes in the crawl or over the pipes in the attic and have no insulation between the pipes and the floor or ceiling. This allows the warmth of the room to penetrate the drywall and move into the space between the insulation and the floor or ceiling, creating a little pocket of warm air. The first thing I would note if you have a leak is where was the pipe located ie; garage, outside wall, ceiling, floor? Before removing any insulation, look to see where within the space the pipe is located, on the outside of the studs, inside of the studs, above the ceiling joists, below the crawl joists, above or below the insulation? Note where the insulation is located, is it in front of the pipe, behind the pipe, all around the pipe? Does it have individual pipe insulation around it but no house insulation like in an attic? Note what you were doing when the leak occured, where you out of town so the hot water wouldn't be used for a while, was it in the winter time? What about hangers and supports, did they use metal plumbers tape or is the piping resting on a sharp metal surface or is it up against concrete (both no no's). The only reason I'm bringing up these scenarios is because the manufacturer will claim that it was a faulty installation and not a defective product so you would need to get your ducks in a row to prove it was faulty BUT in most cases I can tell you that from what I've seen it the number one reason why pex splits is because it was not adequatley protected from freezing. The plumber could have done everything right but if he did not include insulation in his bid then he can't control what the General Contractor will do when it comes to insulation. The plumber may even tell the GC how the insulation should be installed to protect the pipes but he has no control over what the GC decides to do. Also check and see what temperature you have your hot water tank set to. If you're over 120 then they'll say that you didn't install it to code, if your pressure exceeds what your local code says it should be then that's another thing they'll say you didn't do right. Basically your fighting an uphill battle proving a faulty product when chances are they'll say it was a faulty installation.
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There are three different recognized methods of producing pex pipe and they are classified as -A, -B, and -C. -A is the oldest, most expensive, and produces the most complete cross-linking of the pipe and produces the most flexible and strongest version. The other types can be good, are usually less expensive, but if there is a little error in the process, much quicker to exhibit problems. -B and -C came about by trying to make it faster and cheaper, and sometimes, you pay for it in the end - stringent QA/QC is required. When pex is not fully cross-linked, it can fail under stressful situations. This could be caused by a slight temperature variation or chemical makeup issue hiccup during manufacturing. If it is exposed to too much UV before installation or after, it will be degraded and could fail. The fittings are not freezeproof, and those can fail. -A pex is the only one that can be safely 'restored' if it gets kinked without having to cut the kink out and replacing with a fitting as required on -B and -C formulated pex tubing. So, take this into consideration when choosing pex. If properly produced, it should survive the expansion caused by freezing if it wasn't already degraded during either manufacturing or exposure to UV or other handling issues (like pulling it through a tight hole and scoring it along the length). But, as noted, the fittings probably won't survive if they also get frozen.
Proving UV exposure didn't weaken the tubing is probably tough. But, randomly splitting for no obvious other reason may be a manufacturing defect. The tubing could be analyzed to determine how well cross-linked the molecules are, and that would tell, but the test is likely expensive.
Jim DeBruycker
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Retired Defense Industry Engineer; Schluter 2.5-day Workshop Completed 2013, 2014
All of the leaks we have had so far are between the first and second story of our house where all of our plumbing runs. Both floors are temperature controlled and the pipes are insulated since they carry hot water. The leaks have occured in areas where there in no contact with sharp edges and as I have replaced the lines, they slide easily through the holes through the joists without scraping.
Apparently some batches of DuraPex was manufactured a few years ago that for whatever reason is now failing.
Add me to the list. I have had 3 leaks on the hot water side (all within just a few feet of the water heater) in the last year. Used one plumber for the first 2 times, then a different one when first one moved out of town. Both plumbers said it looked like a manufacturer's defect in the CPI Dura-Pex piping. My house was built in 2003 and it is in Fort Mill, SC. From what I have read here, it really sounds like a bad batch got through. I would be interested in a class action against Nibco, who bought this company and should be held responsible. I was also lucky to have been home every time the leaks sprouted, and avoided catastrophic damage to my home. But the plumber said it is probably going to keep happening until I replace all the defective piping. I may try replacing the 20 feet or so suggested in previous posts, and the plumber lowered the water pressure to 65 lbs thinking it might help some. Also suggested I replace the expansion tank, as it was full of water. Please contact me if interested in starting a lawsuit. Maybe if we get a decent number, all it would take would be a strongly worded letter from an attorney stating the number of parties involved to get Nibco to settle. Who knows?
We have had 4 leaks where the dura pex split length wise. We have a Henry Company Home built July 2007. I sent a sample of the split pex to Nibco for them to test for defects. They said their testing did not find the pipe defective. I have contacted Henry Homes but they are not cooperating with us. The plumbers we have used for repairs said we need to replace all the pex in our home. Our insurance company will not pay to have the pipe replaced. We are in a mess. Has anyone contacted a lawyer about this? We need help ASAP!
I dunno, sending the material to the company that makes it is sort of like asking a murderer if he is innocent. They have a huge liability issue if they say yes, it is defective/guilty.
Jim DeBruycker
Important note - I'm not a pro
Retired Defense Industry Engineer; Schluter 2.5-day Workshop Completed 2013, 2014
I had the same problem with cpi durapex home built in 2004 bought it this year had the entire house replumbed after owning it for only 2 months due to severe leaks at the hot water heater and under the kitchen sink. The builder, plumber, nor supplier will take responsability i have talked to several attorneys and gotten no where nibco will not accept responsibility for cpi brand pipe they bought out in 2006. Class action needed yes, please contact me with any info. I hate to tell yall but that pipe is all through your houses and in yr slab like a bomb waiting to go off i made the decision to replumb the entire house instead of using that money to hire and attorney to fight these bastards. Tough decision live in yr house with water or fight for whats right!!!!!!!!!
We're in Fort Mill, house built in 2003, and we've had two leaks within 5 feet of the water heater. The first was before I bought the house and the second just happened. The pipe is now replaced with new pex from the hot water heater into the crawl space, so hopefully any new leaks will be limited to there. I would certainly be interested in a class action suit as this is the second time the house has been torn apart to remediate water damage.


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Just beautiful! I love this coat!! On the form vs function scale, this is firmly on the form side. It's a truly lovey coat. As far as fit, I have a "pear shaped" figure - larger in the hips than the shoulders. This coat has an A-line cut, loose in the hip, and it fits me perfectly. I got the Navy/Peacock and the navy is the very dark, almost black color. I haven't worn mine in the rain yet but I don't expect it to keep me dry in a heavy downpour. If that's what you want, try one of the outdoor outfitters and buy something in Goretex. However I expect it will do beautifully, and I do mean beautifully, keeping me dry between valet parking and the restaurant door!!. The hood makes an absolutely lovely collar. You do have to hold it up if you want do completely cover your head in the rain but that's the price you pay to not have Velcro straps and ugly drawstrings!! If they bring back the black/bronze color shown in one of the pictures, I'll buy it in that color too. April 16, 2014
BEAUTIFUL ! I bought two similar coats back when the original designer sold them through Nordstrom, though the hoods were not accordion pleated. They are light-weight, really tough (fell on an outdoor escalator at BART, and the material was impervious, though my knees were scratched), and the colors do not fade. I'd wanted a shorter version, and am thrilled to get this. My only problem is that I have silky fine hair so the hood tends to blow back, baring my head and face to rain. Now if I could figure out how to thread a cord through the hood's opening to cinch it like a hoodie! Also, the coats are only rain resistant, but do well enough in moderate rains. March 31, 2014
This is a lovely windbreaker and perfect for traveling. It is very lightweight and true to size. I got it on sale and think it was a very good buy. March 28, 2014
Hoping for rain! Can't wait to wear this raincoat! Actually, it could double as a light coat in cool weather. I love the color--silver and black--and the flattering fit. It is very light weight so it won't overload your suitcase. Haven't tried to fold it into the bag yet. March 27, 2014
Beautiful Functionl Coat Beautiful colors, perfect light weight, fits very well. March 27, 2014


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Studio Suite, 1 King Bed - Breakfast included
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Edge Suite - Breakfast included
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Vertigo Suite
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A Luxury Haven and Epicurean Destination in the Heart of Bangkok
5-Star Elegance
Featuring an array of innovative and highly spacious suites, each with touches of surprise, and four unique wining and dining concepts in the heart of downtown Bangkok
Pool, Spa, Fitness & More
Spend long afternoons soaking in the sun by the pool perched on the edge of the cityscape or experience the rejuvenating touch of a Thai herbal compress massage. All reservations include wifi, minibar and more!
Centrally Located
Mere steps away from the hotel, you'll find the BTS Skytrain, your gateway to all the city has to offer. A three-minute ride brings you to Siam Square and the commercial and business heart of downtown Bangkok.Information missing or incorrect? Tell us!
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In the middle of a bustling city full of sights and sounds, a haven of elegance, sophistication and exceptional comfort – welcome to Hansar Bangkok. Look up – ivy-trimmed edges stretching upwards into the sky, the lights from Bangkok's city streets reflecting off flashes of glass and chrome. Unrivalled in architectural elegance and timeless style, Hansar Bangkok is a monument of iconic design rising up through the Bangkok skyline, and your gateway to discovering what this unforgettable city really has to offer.Featuring an array of innovative and highly spacious suites, each with touches of surprise, and four unique wining and dining concepts in the heart of downtown Bangkok, Hansar Bangkok offers experiences for the connoisseur that continually delight – inviting a constant rediscovery of the finer things in life.Unwind when you return from your urban adventures or from a long day of meetings. Spend long afternoons soaking in the sun by the pool perched on the edge of the cityscape or experience the rejuvenating touch of a Thai herbal compress massage. At Hansar, every day is meant to be savoured – and we provide all the elements to make each one even better than the last.Hansar Bangkok Hotel offers a bar/lounge, a poolside bar, and a coffee shop/café. High-speed wireless Internet access is complimentary. Business amenities at this 5.0-star property consist of a 24-hour business center, limo/town car service, and technology support staff. In addition to an outdoor pool, Hansar Bangkok Hotel provides a spa tub and a fitness facility. Event facilities include a conference center, conference/meeting rooms, and banquet facilities. For a surcharge, an airport shuttle (available on request) is available to guests. This Bangkok hotel also offers valet parking, spa services, and a concierge desk. Business services, wedding services, and currency exchange can be provided. Onsite parking is complimentary. Hansar Bangkok Hotel is a smoke-free property.
- 24-hour front desk
- Air-conditioned public areas
- Total number of rooms - 62
- Number of floors - 9
- Audiovisual equipment
- Babysitting or childcare
- Banquet facilities
- Bar/lounge
- Business services
- Coffee shop or café
- Complimentary newspapers in lobby
- Currency exchange
- Doorman/doorwoman
- Dry cleaning/laundry service
- Elevator/lift
- Event catering
- Express check-in
- Express check-out
- Beach shuttle (complimentary)
- Technology support staff
- Free Wi-Fi
- Health club
- Concierge services
- Rooftop terrace
- Luggage storage
- One meeting/conference room
- Laundry facilities
- Massage - spa treatment room(s)
- Multilingual staff
- Free parking
- Valet parking
- Parking garage
- Poolside bar
- Room service (24 hours)
- Free guest parking during stay
- Year Built 2010
- 24-hour business center
- Conference center
- Snack bar/deli
- Security guard
- Number of buildings/towers - 1
- Spa services on site
- Spa tub
- Wedding services
- Free breakfast
- Swimming pool - outdoor
- Internet
Available in all rooms: Free Wi-Fi, Free wired high-speed Internet
Available in some public areas: Free Wi-Fi
- Parking
Free parking, Free guest parking during stay, Valet parking, Parking garage
- Room Amenities
- Premium TV channels
- DVD player
- Premium bedding
- Separate sitting area
- Climate control
- Air conditioning
- Complimentary newspaper
- Refrigerator
- Minibar
- Coffee/tea maker
- Complimentary bottled water
- Daily housekeeping
- Turndown service
- Private bathroom
- Bathrobes
- Complimentary toiletries
- Hair dryer
- Slippers
- Separate bathtub and shower
- Deep soaking bathtub
- Rainfall showerhead
- In-room safe
- Desk
- Iron/ironing board (on request)
- Rollaway/extra beds available
- Phone
- Free local calls
- Satellite TV service
- Flat-panel TV
- iPod docking station
- In-room massage available
- Connecting / adjoining rooms available
- Cribs/infant beds (complimentary)
- Down comforter
- Pillowtop mattress
- Free Wi-Fi
- Free wired high-speed Internet
- Dining
Eve, A true original. Introducing Eve, the starlet of Bangkok. With an irresistible mystique and unquestionable good taste, she woos global epicures and local foodies alike with her sophisticated design and inventive French Provençal menu. Eve's gastronomic philosophy focuses on freshly-sourced ingredients and a menu that evolves with the seasons, so that it always features relevant and innovative dishes. Indulge in an elegant soirée in Eve's private dining room, an evening of celebration and haute cuisine. An experience so good you'll want to share it – or be tempted to keep it all to yourself.Vue, Toast of the cityMorning espressos and a light bite. As the sun sets, the lobby comes alive with the natural buzz of Bangkok's new hot spot, our lobby bar, Vue. See, be seen, or just catch an ever-changing glimpse of the crowd in the mirrors and glass that line the grand staircase. Enjoy the Vue.Shine and Zest, Rise and ShineStart the morning your own way: with freshly-baked pastries, tropical fruit and an extensive menu of Western and Asian breakfast specialties at Shine by the pool. Pair it with the perfect freshly-squeezed juice, frothy cappuccino, or even an indulgent Bloody Mary from the pool bar, Zest.Cafe Boca, Superbly simple cuisineCasual lunches, quick snacks and bites-to-go are the forte of Café Boca, featuring gourmet sandwiches, panini, salads, quiches and other delectable delicacies for your culinary enjoyment. Eat and run for an afternoon of adventure, or relax over your lunch in the shade of the patio and people-watch the afternoon away.
- Recreation
An outdoor pool and a spa tub are on site. Other recreational amenities include a fitness facility. Children under 18 years old are not allowed in the swimming pool, fitness facility, or spa tub without adult supervision. The recreational activities listed below are available either on site or nearby; fees may apply.
- Golfing nearby
- Tennis nearby
- Running track/path nearby
- Pilates classes/instruction nearby
- Yoga classes/instruction nearby
- Spa
The on-site spa has 5 treatment rooms including massage/treatment rooms and couples treatment room(s). Services include massages, body wraps, body scrubs, and nutrition consultations. A variety of treatment therapies are provided, including Ayurvedic treatments.
- Ayurvedic treatments
- Body scrubs
- Body treatments
- Body wraps
- Couples treatment rooms
- Facial treatments
- Massages
- Number of treatment rooms 5
- Accessibility
To make requests for specific accessibility needs, complete the "Special or Accessibility Requests" section of "Trip Preferences" when you book your hotel.
- Accessible bathroom
- Accessible path of travel
- Accessible parking
- In-room accessibility
Policies & Fees
- Check-in
Check-in time starts at 1 PM
Minimum check-in age is 18
Check-in time ends at 11 PM
- Check-out
Check-out time is noon
- Payment types
Accepted at this hotel: American Express, MasterCard, Visa
- General
Extra-person charges may apply and vary depending on hotel policy.
Government-issued photo identification and a credit card or cash deposit are required at check-in for incidental charges.
Special requests are subject to availability upon check-in and may incur additional charges. Special requests cannot be guaranteed.
- The name on the credit card used at check-in to pay for incidentals must be the primary name on the guestroom reservation.
Parking height restrictions apply
- Fees
- The following fees and deposits are charged by the property at time of service, check-in, or check-out.
The above list may not be comprehensive. Fees and deposits may not include tax and are subject to change.
- Breakfast fee: THB 200 for adults and THB 100 for children (approximately)
- Additional Details
Only registered guests are allowed in the guestrooms. The property has connecting/adjoining rooms, which are subject to availability and can be requested by contacting the property using the number on the booking confirmation.
Awards & Affiliations
- Details
- Hansar Bangkok Hotel is listed in the 2012 Condé Nast Traveler Hot List.
- The property is a member of the Small Luxury Hotels of the World.


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Tattoos >Black 13 Tattoo
209 10th Ave S Suite 208, Nashville, TN | Directions 3720336.154730 -86.782348
Mon-Sat 12pm-9pm
Black 13 Tattoo, conceived by Nashville musician Doy Gardner and tattoo artist Josh Woods, is working to break public preconceptions about tattooing and bring a local, home-town atmosphere to this ancient art. For over 6 years, Woods and fellow tattoo artists have honed their skills and bring vivid, lifelike colors, unique designs and custom tattooing and craftsmanship to the forefront.
Black 13 Tattoo merges great location, vision and talent to draw in local tattoo-lovers as well as national and global enthusiasts as well. An outstanding supply of guest artists will grace this tattoo parlor's doors and work to make Black 13 Tattoo an integral component in Nashville's expanding artistic and cultural scene. For custom tattoos and professional artists, check out the hip and inviting Black 13 Tattoo to acquire your next piece of art.
I had the best experience at Black 13!!
I planned and researched getting a tattoo
for three years, wanting to make sure my first
tattoo was a good experience as I was really
scared of the pain.
The shop is awesome!!! Very clean, modern cool
style and even smelled good!!!
I would like to thank Marty as he is an awesome
artist and did a GREAT job on my tattoo!!!
He made me feel comfortable and made my
first tattoo a great experience.
I recommend this shop and deffinetly will
return for more tattoos.
Thank you Black 13, one awesome shop!!
Thanks for working with us Cynthia! We greatly appreciate it.
a big thank you to Black 13...from the 1st time I stepped in and met Doy and Patrick,gave them my ideas and what I was wanting,they both agreed and said they would set me up with Jon... they know exactly each artists strong points in each discipline and will make sure you have the best tattoo possible...set up my appointment for 2 months later,which was pretty agonizing,but if you are the best studio around,everyone is going to want to have their work done by the best...the wait was well worth it... totally professional but fun atmosphere...Jon set me up with a 3d tattoo with my 3 kids name on it that was beyond belief... I now have some friends that after seeing mine wanted information on Black 13 to get their art work done... I couldn't have had a better experience... thank you Jon for the awesome piece and thank you Doy and Black 13 for setting me up with Jon... this is a permanent piece,and I couldn't be prouder to sport it for life...
Hey Jeremy, thanks so much for the kind words. We appreciate your patience and willingness to work with us. If we can be of assistance down the road just let us know.
Thanks again!
Worst experience I have EVER had period. The artist did the opposite of what I wanted and then when I went back into to POLITELY ask him to fix it he was an egotistical cad and his boss wasn't much better!
Kustom Thrills ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the way!
P.S. I now have a SCAR where he dug into me so hard trying to go over the color HE put in there I didn't want that it will most likely scar and have no color at all.
Amazing experience, said this girl NEVER.
And however I can report a health issue to the board and state are definately in order.
Hey Mandy, thanks for taking the time to discuss things with me over the phone last week. I apologize again that our versions of the experience differ and that we're unable to work with you again. We ask that you allow at least 4 weeks for healing and that you're following our care instructions during this time. If this is followed the tattoo should heal just fine without scaring, light spots, irritation, etc. As discussed earlier, I'm happy to give you our health inspectors contact information
TOTALLY WORTH IT!!! From the 1st call, Doy was very attentive & made sure he knew exactly what I wanted between calls & emails. I set up 2 appointments. When coming into B13 I was quickly met & greeted. Tye was ready as soon as Doy alerted him of my arrival. He has a very soft hand & his attention to detail is absolutely AMAZING! He is the best photo realism/black & grey artist I have ever seen. I am very happy with the tattoo on my foot & I highly recommend Tye Harris.
The 2nd tattoo was a custom tattoo by Josh Woods. This 1 was very special to me. He drew just what I was looking for. Josh is 1 very awesome artist. He was very professional & his work is absolutely beautiful!!! It took me a long time to find the right artist for this tattoo & I am glad I found him. Josh also has a very soft touch & I had no discomfort at all.
I wish they could hear the great comments I have received since being tattooed by them. Everyone in the Parlor makes you feel welcome & comfortable. You will not walk in to B13 & see any photo copied stencils of premade tattoos hanging on the walls. It is very clean & warm atmosphere. Their commitment to professionalism goes beyond any tattoo parlor.
If you are a serious & want to get a tattoo at B13 you have to understand your appointment is for a "TATTOO ARTIST". They create artwork for you to be their canvas & usually book 1 tattoo per day. A lot of clients travel to B13. So understand your non refundable deposit is to hold a time, show you are serious, & if you don't show for your appt., at least the artist is compensated for coming in that day & spending time on artwork for you!
Hey Kim, it was a absolute pleasure working with you. Thanks for the taking the time to leave us a review and thanks for the kind words!
Great Work, Bad Customer Service – If you are looking for brilliant artwork on your skin, the guys at Black 13 are the people to see. If you would like to feel comfortable, welcomed, and not rushed, then please go somewhere else.
The artwork Ian did on me gets compliments everywhere I go. He is a very nice man and very professional. Unfortunately, dealing with the different individuals that answer the phones is a different story.
I am a student, so when my funds ran low I cancelled my appointments. I was able to secure one final appointment, however it was just a small piece.This appeared to give some of the guys license to talk down to me when we were conducting business over the phone and in person.
That being said, would I recommend them on the basis of their work, heck yeah! Have I recommended them? Yes, but it has ended in disaster. Almost every friend and/or associate that I have recommended has left them to go to other artists around the area because they've felt uncomfortable and rudely handled.
So, as stated before, phenomenal work but bad manners.
Thanks Dae!
Great tattoo experience – I am not creative enough or ambitious enough to write two different reviews so im using the same terrible review i used on a different review website... sorry
I recently planned a vacation around going to nashville to get tattooed by TimmyB(a birthday gift to myself)...
I live in MA and TN isnt exactly a day trip. This shop is pretty different than some of the other tattoo shops i have been in previously. The firs thing i noticed was how it was tucked away on the interior of a building, totally confused me. The next thing was the smell when you walked in the door. No idea what plug in stuff the use but it smells amazing. Lastly(there was more but im already going to make this too long) was the Music... very... interesting mix, i say this as a good thing, the music was everything i think at one point it went from the jackson 5 to some death metal with heavy guitar and double bass and what have you...What does all this have to do with tattoos? nothing... nothing at all. But it was certainly a + to my experience
When timmyb showed me what he had drawn up it was exactly what i had asked for. This dude does some quality work. After the 8 or 9 hours i was there for i had a really fantastic chunk or art on my arm. The only complain i have about my entire visit was how brutal the chair i was in was. Its not often you get tattood for a long period of time and find more pain in your tail bone than in the fresh raw tattoo.
Was my trip to nashville worth it? YES!
Would i do it again? Sadly i am not made of money and work is difficult to accommodate multiple days off in a row so i probably will not be able to but i certainly would have tim do his thing and claim another chunk of skin as his canvas.
Would i force a friend to go here over anywhere else? your damn right i would... again the distance would probably prevent this.
Oh one more thing... White hotel sheets and comforters and pillows dont look so nice when you wake up the day after the tattoo.... the plastic wrap did not make it through the night :/
Thanks John! Once you're ready for another road trip let us know!
The way all shops should be – My reveiw of black 13 tattoo in nashvile tenn. is that there is nothing bad i can say about there establishment.From top to bottom they know how to get it done for you.Its the way all shops should be .My wife and i traveled there from N.Y after dicovering tattoo artist josh woods.what a great expierence we had being worked on by josh.His artwork is hands down some of the greatest i have seen.You give him an idea and he creates magic for u.Sitting in his chair for 6 hours watching ESPN,bulls@#$%ing, with each other was fantastic tattooing expierence. Dealing with one of the owners DOY was simply a pleasure .What a nice guy.Very attentive ,easy to talk to and he makes you feel at home.I can honestly say that you can not go wrong with black13 tattoo no matter what route u travel .all these guys are awesome and i highly reccommend you go visit these guys and if u dont you are defenitely missingout.from management doy and fred to the artist and owner josh or the other artists timmy,ian steve these guys want you leaving there the way i feel about them now-9WITH THE FEELING OF NOT BEING ABLE TO WAIT TILL YOU GET BACK) TRUST ME
Sweet! Thanks for all the kind words and thanks for working with us.
Great Experience – Last night I came in to do the second session on my half sleeve and I could not be more thrilled. Timmy B is an amazing artist (as are all of the artists there
Your arm is turning out awesome. Thanks so much for trusting us with the ideas and thanks for the kind words!
Simply Amazing! – From the time I got here to the time I left they were nothing but amazing. They worked with my design and turned it not only into something better, but something that I seriously enjoyed having done.
Ryan Thomas is an awesome guy and he is so talented. I really enjoyed being tattooed by him, and I don't want to go anywhere else after this tattoo.
I had a pretty insane 6 hour rib tattoo. I felt comfortable and at home the whole time.
Professional shop. Professional artists. Laid back and homey feel. I will never go anywhere else. Definately worth the 2 hour drive.
Josh, thanks so much for making the trip and thanks for the kind words. I know Ryan was super excited to do the piece so thanks for the opportunity.
The best tattoo parlor out there – Black 13 is beyond any tattoo parlor I have entered, the atmosphere was so upscale and had such creative style. I was greeted by everyone in the shop and it made me feel like I had been there before even though it was my first time. Josh Woods was the artist for my tattoo and I must say I LOVE it!!! He was such an awesome person to have met, he has style and a great sense of humor. I would recommend this shop to anyone that I encounter, I believe that each artist there has a style of thier own and whatever you are wanting in a design in a tattoo you will find a great tattoo artist here. The best there is........hands down...
Thank you so so much!!
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I don't think it helps your case by insulting Rick. He's just stating the facts. SS2S is very open about their efforts, and I'm confident that everything they post is factual. On the other hand, many of the things you post about Team Prometheus are actually done by others.
It doesn't appear that Team Prometheus has had much to do with Ardusat's success. Team Prometheus is listed as a partner on their site, and you posted a video announcing your partnership, but I don't see where you actually helped them. When they came out to do the balloon mission you couldn't even provide the Helium, even though I found a source of Helium for you just a hour away from you. I think the only thing that resulted from that trip is that they built the support platform for your tracker.
You claimed the airspeed record from the NTNS-4 mission even though you had nothing to do with it. You were supposed to have provided ground support for NTNS-4, but you didn't even show up for the mission. I have confirmation of this from a private email.
You did a Q-motor launch, but you won't provide the details of how the launch went. You did say that you would provide some details of the launch after 90 days, so I'm looking forward to seeing that in January.
So you have to understand that we're dubious about some of your claims when we know that things that you've reported in the past have been exaggerated.
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Excuse me, but soap operas belong in the Entertainment forum...
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Agreed. We should stay on the thread's topic, which in this case is discussing whether the N-Prize will be won by the end of 2014.
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All BS Dave, I have all the proof I need to prove everything I have said. I don't care what "Email conformation" you have. I have 347 emails that are to the contrary. Just because I don't share details doesn't mean squat.
Besides that it's much more complex than you know or have the need to know. I don't care why you continue to insult/slander me either of you because it really doesn't matter. It probably helps me more than hurts me anyway people love to see this crap on the internet. So just keep it up I don't care.
It's not up to me to clear things up to your satisfaction I don't want to do harm to the Ardusat or any other program I've been involved with so I'm not sharing dirty little details just to clear my name to you or anyone else. I am not at all like you or Rick I respect all efforts to get to space. Because it's a damn hard thing to do.
This new team has the right stuff to get the job done and achieving that goal will be the only satisfaction I need and none of this crap will matter anyway.
Today's the day! We go into Space!
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No BS, insults or slander from me. I'm just posting the truth. Anyhow, this thread is about whether the N-Prize will be won by the end of 2014. It seems like the only teams that have a chance are WikiSat and Prometheus. However, since none of the teams haven't reached space yet, or even achieved 100,000 feet it's doubtful that the N-Prize will be won by the end of next year.
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Hey, I've never started the BS here you guy's do. I now have a lawyer ya know and you can expect a cease and desist letter very soon. Mainly because you don't have the facts Mr. Hein. Just what you think you have. What you have will not stand up in court for 5 seconds. I am about tired of this enough to pursue that avenue.
Just because I wont reveal to you the inner workings of our Team and Company does not mean they are not real. I may even pursue Ardusat if you insist enough and reveal the real goings on there just to clear my name from the slander you guy's have created.
Any court will side in my favor on anything I've said on the emails I posses alone about collaboration and accomplishments we have made.
I've about had it with both of you and I am about to seek legal action.
I guess this is my only alternative. I am also told it is the price of doing business. I think it's a huge waste of money better spent doing business. I think it's mostly just sad. But if it matters that much I don't see any alternative. I guess we need the experience anyway for bigger fish to fry in the future. So let's see how it goes.
In closing I will say your going to find out we have far deeper roots and are much more involved in many more projects than I have ever even mentioned. I've been a very busy man over the last 5 years and the missions we have done and the collaborations are far more than you realize. I've been doing this every day you know. You will be surprised and I think it's about time everyone knows what we really do here.
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On a whole different note it is amazing how having a functional team can effect things here at Team Prometheus. I've been the energizer bunny for 5 years taking care of things like the Matagorda site, keeping the boats docked and maintained, keeping a website, getting sponsors, doing missions, designing hardware and software, working with the FAA, helping other teams, promoting the team, seeking funding, being involved in other contest, keeping trucks running, holding on to things the team will need, ect... ect... ect... and if you don't know it means a lot of ect...
It's so easy when your on the outside not to understand how difficult that all is when one man is doing 90% of the work. Now that we have a good team I can focus on things I could not before. Now we can do a better job helping others. Now everything else get's easier things I did not even expect to get easier.
Now I can look around a bit more than I ever could and now I have time to address other issues.
And the best part is now people can get paid.
That brings a whole other dimension to things and how they get done. Yeah when I was mostly by myself you could take advantage of me in many ways and I didn't have time to even care. Now it's not that way anymore.
Now from Monday until the 2nd I'm going to be taking it easy for a change but by the 2nd you will be seeing how we do it in 2014.
Today's the day! We go into Space!
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If the weather improves we plan a launch for a NASA sponsored project to test our StaCC payload this Saturday followed by another launch to 100,000' on Sunday to test some equipment for an upper atmospheric research project and a second payload containing some avionics for our Sugar Shot to Space project and our prototype N-Prize satellite.
As for the rants of some other person's posts, I will take my response to the entertainment forum since what he does seems to be science fiction...'IMO'
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I'll second that - good luck today!!
"Gentlemen, we haven't got any money, so we are going to have to think!"
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Location: South Africa
We tested a N-class motor yesterday. It failed. We are still examining the casing to determine why the circlip was pushed out at MEOP. Anyway I saw this N-prize thread and thought I should ask a question that has been bugging me for a while.
There are 4 people that indicated that the prize will be won by the end of the year. Are those people willing to come forward and state why they think the majority (2/3) of the voters are wrong? If they can't, will they change their vote?
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One of our worst nightmares as a parent is finding out our teenager has started smoking or taking drugs. Instinctively, our first reaction is to be angry, but most of us can remember what it was like when we were at school and just how powerful that peer pressure can be.
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Sadly there are no specific rules regarding parental approaches to drugs and the way in which you deal with the problem really depends on the type of child you have, their personality/mood and how they are likely to respond to you quizzing them.
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It's important to remember that as a parent you can only do so much. If your advice and help isn't working (and your child is still taking drugs) it's important to seek help from an external source specialising in drugs. Admitting you need help is nothing to be ashamed off - smoking and drugs are addictive substances and young people from all walks of life, backgrounds and families can easily become addicted. It doesn't mean you are a bad parent, nor does it mean they are a bad child. In many cases, taking drugs is merely a passing phase or 'fad' that teens sometimes go through and it will eventually pass.
My youngest daughter was caught by me to be smoking. I told her how disappointed I was. Also pointed out that as she has asthma it is not the brightest thing to do. She said that she had only done it once to try it. I believe her...but I also know that she chews a heck of a lot of chewing gum!
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My 15 year old step son went from a delightful child of 11 to being in trouble with the police, bunking school most every day, and smoking cannabis and drinking. This has now been going on for 4 years and is getting worse. We have tried everything you can think of to help him but all he wants to do is smoke weed and hang out with mates, he wont even wash and smells awful. The drugs are changing his mood and he has even threatened me. I have a 10 month old daughter who I am scared for as she is crawling and I'm worried she may get hold of his drugs which he stashes all over the house. He is living with his real mother at the moment to see if she can influence him in any way but it seems to be getting worse. I feel completely helpless...
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My daughter's whole attitude has changed since she started taking drugs, she is constantly angry (unless she has money in her hand on her way out my back door to go and meet " her friends"). She is in with a crowd of known drug users which I have being trying with all my powers to keep her away from, but the more you say keep away the more they go behind your back.
My only advice is to be open with your child, tell her your concerns, your worries about the drugs, about your hopes for her in the future, maybe you could ask her what her hopes for the future are or try to suggest spending some quality time together. Is their anything you could possibly do together that she would be interested in? Even if it's just to go shopping and make it a positive experience. If you can be honest with her she might be honest with you.
Join in the chat, gain advice and share experiences in the teen, drugs and alcohol forum.
The links below provide advice and understanding of smoking and drugs (including alcohol) and should make life a bit easier for you and your children. Try looking through some of them together and learn with your child, for your child.
http://www.ash.org.uk/ - ASH stands for action on smoking and health UK and this website contains advice on how to give up, educational resources for schools and information on the damage to your health that cigarettes can do.
Frank- a modern organisation that tackles drugs in an honest, realistic, non-condescending way. The site is a good first stop for you and your teen as it looks at drugs from a young person's perspective in a way they can relate too. Packed with educational resources, info for parents and real life stories, it offers 'straight up' advice and 'gives facts without the attitude'. Phone 0800 77 66 00
Re-Solv is a national UK charity that is dedicated to the prevention of solvent abuse. There are fact sheets, educational resources and plenty of advice and help.
Helpline number: 0808 800 2345 They also have a website for teens
PADA - Parents against Drug abuse - a UK organisation.
NHS - An informative site that's packed with advice and supportive articles on drugs and solvent abuse. You can also find local resources, read stories from other parents and pick up handy tactics that can help you deal with drug-taking quickly and effectively. Dare UK The website of a drugs prevention programme aimed at schools. there is a useful a-z of drugs and plenty of information.
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In the last few weeks, he has softened his position on "self-deportation," saying in Miami that he was not in favor of "a mass deportation effort." During the primaries, he said he would get rid of the Affordable Care Act the minute he took office, but on "Meet the Press" recently — and with the polls showing the public largely approves of it — he said he would keep some elements in place, including coverage for pre-existing conditions, the most popular element in the reforms.
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