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Back in early June I had the chance to catch big wave adrenaline junky Kohl Christiansen as he was jetting off to Peru to some warning level swell. Unfortunately the spot in Pichilemu, Chile – after much anticipation, The Quiksilver Ceremonial Chile was unable to run as scheduled on Tuesday, June 4th on the beaches at Punta de Lobos, Chile. The forecast had originally projected a 15-foot swell, but the surf ultimately did not reach the necessary heights for the BIGWAVEWORLDTOUR.COM. Ah the life of men who ride mountains. But, remember the swells in May for Fiji and Tahiti and Hawaii? Well, guess who was on it?
Kohl is down to earth, friendly and simply loves to surf. He's got tons going on with Bonterra Solar and a Patagonia sponsorship not to mention his farm! Not to mention his Big wave accomplishments (including an Eddie Aikau Big Wave Invite...his greatest moment. Trust me when I say, Kohl can juggle more than most, including long hold downs.
Gary: So you caught 15' Fiji then went to Tahiti for that Big swell?
Kohl: Yeah, I caught Fiji came back for a day then headed to Tahiti for that last big run…was back in Hawaii for a bit and now they called the Chile contest on for Tuesday so…
Gary: Crazy, so you pretty much gotta be ready to pack up and go on a moment's notice…
Kohl: Pretty much…it's coming down to it. You gotta just be able to pull the trigger. If you don't you'll miss it.
Gary: So do you have a family? Kids?
Kohl: No, my brother does, I don't…not any legitimate children…LOL
Gary: LOL…so you're the crazy uncle?
Kohl: Yeah, pretty much.
Gary: So did you score some good waves?
Kohl: Fiji we scored and then Tahiti was epic yeah.
Gary: How big…15'?
Kohl: Uh pretty big…I mainly paddled. It was only me and my friend Dan Ross…it was mean…radical.
Gary: Nooooo….
Kohl: Yeah, then I can home …went to Tahiti and it was the like the polar opposite. Everyone in the whole world was there. Production teams…so it was cool to see that. Mayhem. It was just so crazy all the jet skies and everything but there were some good paddle moments and some good tow moments so….it was a really fun week.
Gary: So if you take out the crowds and compare just the wave of Fiji wave to Teahupoo…you'd like Cloud break…still the best big wave?
Kohl: Oh yeah, by far. You can't paddle Tahiti…it's too top heavy the waves. But with Fiji you can pretty much paddle as big as it gets. Just get a bigger board and get the longest tube you've ever had.
Gary: I was reviewing that one you had a couple years ago…
Kohl: The glassy blue bird one?
Gary: Yeah, if that would've just stayed open one extra foot…you could've made that one.
Kohl: !@@#$ yeah if I could've gotten over that one bump…I got knocked off. I saw the light again and I was like…AHHH. It's still the best tube ride Ive ever had.
Gary: What goes on under the water when you take these wipe outs at those places at that size? Do you recall or just go into mindless, instinctual survival mode?
Kohl: Depends on the break. Like in Tahiti esp. you get blown up into the lagoon pretty fast. You don't get held down very long. The biggest fear is the reef not the hold down. But a place like Mavericks can hold you down forever…it goes from shallow to deep again…so, it puts you in these deep dark holes. And that's really scary. Cortez was similar. Jaws can really beat you and hold you down. But we have these new inflation vests that we're doing so you surface a lot quicker.
Gary: So, what's the heaviest wave in your opinion?
Kohl: That's hard…like Chopu's the shallowest biggest heaviest. But then you got in my mind like the spots that scare me the most are Mavericks and Jaws.
Gary: Because of the sheer hold down.
Kohl: Uh huh.
Gary: What's your longest hold down?
Kohl: Um, seems like 10 minutes but probably only about 40-45 seconds.
Gary: Do you train to be able to hold your breath or just surf a bunch?
Kohl: Yeah some breathe stuff but mainly just surf and cardio so that helps.
Gary: When you do cardio do you hold your breath at the same time to mimic beatings underwater?
Kohl: I do that but its hard to get a schedule just because of the flight schedule…and when Im home I have my organic farm and I have my work with Bonterra Solar going…so I have to make sure all my guys are happy and Im on the road…its just hard to train. I do that P90X stuff…whoa it looks like my flights boarding…
Gary: Oh no, Chile here you come…
Kohl: Yeah, it's going to be 2 days of traveling for 2 sessions.
Gary: Man that's gnarly.
Kohl: Yeah…I'm looking down at my boards right now from the lounge.
Gary: How did you hook up with the Bonterra Solar crew? They sponsor SNN, too. A great group of guys.
Kohl: They're old friends and I'm a general contractor and got my solar installation license. I've hired some really good people to help me so I can do my surfing thing. But in the beginning it was just me on the roof.
Gary: That's cool cause Andrew (owner of Bonterra Solar) is a big wave rider too so that must be cool to have that connection you know? Plus the whole sustainability aspect…goes with your life style.
Kohl: Yeah right? It's cool to come home and work on my farm.
Gary: You doing all that on your own?
Kohl: No…my brothers a big help.
Gary: Is he a surfer too?
Kohl: Yeah he charges.
Gary: Well I know the planes boarding…let's finish this later. When do you get back?
Kohl: That's a good question Gary.
Gary: lol
Kohl: I'd say about a week…I usually do quick strikes you know?
Gary: Oh real fast few last questions...Favorite food?
Kohl: Oh, my favorite food (chuckles) Poke Bowls…sushi.
Gary: music?
Kohl: I like Reggae and folk music.
Gary: Do you meditate? You seem mellow on land.
Kohl: Oh, most the time I'm pretty hectic. Like I'm really mellow but it can be pretty hectic. I just look for that adrenaline rush you know? That's what kinda grounds me.
Gary: Do you surf small waves?
Kohl: Oh yeah absolutely, I try to surf every day.
Gary: Do you do the diving thing like Mark Healey?
Kohl: Oh yeah I dive with Mark, but he's on another level. I dive recreationally but I love it. I grew up diving. And I'm a pretty avid kite boarder right now.
Gary: Hey Im going to let you go now. Good luck in Chile!
Kohl: Ok thanks a lot Gary you have a good one and Ill catch up with you later.
Gary: That sounds great. Aloha.
Kohl: Aloha.
Check this video of Kohl on one of thee biggest waves and worst wipeouts in Puerto Esondido or most anywhere's history. (4 minutes in)
Deep Water: Kohl Christensen And Crew At Puerto Escondido
Heavy barrels—and a few heavy beatings—greet Kohl Christensen and friends at Puerto Escondido in the sixth episode of the Deep Water series. Other surfers include Greg Long, Gabriel Villaran, Joao De Macedo, Jensen Hasset, Alvaro Malpartida and Coco Nogales.
For more on Kohl go HERE


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How Richard Stallman's GPL Platform Backfires on the Free Software Movement
The bullying of the copyright industry in Sweden inspired the launch of the first political party whose platform is to reduce copyright restrictions: the Pirate Party. Its platform includes the prohibition of Digital Restrictions Management, legalization of noncommercial sharing of published works, and shortening of copyright for commercial use to a five-year period. Five years after publication, any published work would go into the public domain.
I support these changes, in general; but the specific combination chosen by the Swedish Pirate Party backfires ironically in the special case of free software. I'm sure that they did not intend to hurt free software, but that's what would happen.
The GNU General Public License and other copyleft licenses use copyright law to defend freedom for every user. The GPL permits everyone to publish modified works, but only under the same license. Redistribution of the unmodified work must also preserve the license. And all redistributors must give users access to the software's source code.
The highlighted statement is incorrect. As the Ars Technica states: "Copyleft is an important part of Stallman's vision because it compels companies that use copyleft code to open their own source code when they might not have otherwise been willing to do so voluntarily." A right, freedom, comes from within. It is negative. It can not place an obligation on another which has not been voluntarily entered into. There can not be a right to education or healthcare in that it is someone's obligation to provide you with them. To claim such a thing is to claim to have the right over another's labor meaning they are your slave. In the same way copyright, and therefore copyleft, are an affront to the liberty not only for the publisher but the user. Copyright makes the customer the slave to the producer and copyleft the producer the slave of another in the name of the consumer. Rather then advocating co-slavery, where the real master are those in positions within the government and their fascistic friends, let us advocate the emancipation of all those held under the thumb of organized violent institutions.
How would the Swedish Pirate Party's platform affect copylefted free software? After five years, its source code would go into the public domain, and proprietary software developers would be able to include it in their programs. But what about the reverse case?
Proprietary software is restricted by EULAs, not just by copyright, and the users don't have the source code. Even if copyright permits noncommercial sharing, the EULA may forbid it. In addition, the users, not having the source code, do not control what the program does when they run it. To run such a program is to surrender your freedom and give the developer control over you.
One can not surrender one's freedom except in that case were they have aggressed against another. And then only to the extent to which is necessary to stop the aggression. The user gives up no freedom when voluntarily using closed source software. Stallman is looking to actually restrict user's freedom by attempting to use copyright to force companies to work within his free software paradigm and restricting the marketplace. If FOSS is indeed a better way for all involved it will naturally become the dominant method of software development and distribution in the market naturally. There is no need to force it into being through threats and violence.
We also use copyright to partially deflect the danger of software patents.
More artificial monopoly privileges will not fix artificial monopoly privileges. Approach this problem from a true freedom oriented perspective and all these contradictions will disappear as will this endless tug of war for power over the State.
I could support a law that would make GPL-covered software's source code available in the public domain after 5 years, provided it has the same effect on proprietary software's source code. After all, copyleft is a means to an end (users' freedom), not an end in itself. And I'd rather not be an advocate for a stronger copyright.
Fundamentally there is no difference between what Stallman advocates and what the stricter copyright people advocate. It is an argument over degrees and not kind. It is an argument that will never be resolved so long as the conversation is held within this intellectual property box. As long as Stallman and those who agree with him can do sue companies for GPL violation (and win)… the RIAA can restrict individual's access to things they purchase and the game console companies the same. Freedom on all sides would allow the market place to find the best solutions for all those involved without all the unproductive fighting for control and as Eric S. Raymond pointed out… the fear it creates.
A real analysis of the FOSS community I believe would show that FOSS works without copyright. Through voluntary means software stays more or less open as the original author desired. Projects which are slow to change or allow outside participation are forked or replaced and the best method for the community wins out. Those companies which fail to release modifications to the source which they've used in their products are ostracized often leading to the code's publication. If the general customers of their products are displeased with the lack of openness or product flexibility they will take their business elsewhere. They will succeed or fail in the market as everyone else. Artificially sustaining FOSS through monopoly privileges is economically and therefore socially regressive and destructive. It has no place in a free society.
For more information regarding intellectual property monopoly:
- Against Intellectual Property by Stephan Kinsella (book)
- Against Intellectual Property: Property Rights – Tangible and Intangible by Stephan Kinsella (article from Journal of Libertarian Studies)
- The Libertarian Case Against Intellectual Property Rights by Roderick T. Long
- The Case Against Intellectual Monopoly by Michele Boldrin and David K. Levine
- Against Intellectual Property by Michele Boldrin and David K. Levine

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Chocolate Chip Oatmeal Cookies Recipe
- 1 cup butter, softened
- 3/4 cup sugar
- 3/4 cup packed brown sugar
- 2 eggs
- 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
- 3 cups quick-cooking oats
- 1-1/2 cups King Arthur Unbleached All-Purpose Flour
- 1 package (3.4 ounces) instant vanilla pudding mix
- 1 teaspoon baking soda
- 1 teaspoon salt
- 2 cups (12 ounces) semisweet chocolate chips
- 1 cup chopped nuts
- In a large bowl, cream butter and sugars until light and fluffy. Beat in eggs and vanilla. Combine the oats, flour, dry pudding mix, baking soda and salt; gradually add to creamed mixture and mix well. Stir in chocolate chips and nuts.
- Drop by rounded teaspoonfuls 2 in. apart onto ungreased baking sheets. Bake at 375° for 10-12 minutes or until lightly browned. Remove to wire racks. Yield: about 7 dozen.
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This recipe was very easy to assemble and bake. I didn't get quite as many cookies but it made a nice batch. We are enjoying them immensely.
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Still using pentamirror, too bad!
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Just Posted: Canon Rebel T4i / EOS 650D preview with real-world samples
Just Posted: We've been shooting with Canon's latest entry-level DSLR - the Rebel T4i (EOS 650D), and have prepared an hands-on preview. The T4i shares many of the headline specs (18MP CMOS sensor, 9-point AF system, 1.0M dot flip-out LCD) with its predecessor, the EOS 600D / Rebel T3i, but significant changes have been made to every one of those features. The result is the first touch-screen DSLR and the first EOS to offer continuous AF in movie shooting mode. Read our preview to find out more about the 650D's features and what its 'Hybrid AF' really offers. The preview includes real-world samples and low-light studio shots.
Click here to read our Canon Rebel T4i / EOS 650D preview
But it's one of the better pentamirror viewfinders out there. It is certainly good enough for composition and picture taking. Sure, it might not be big and bright enough for easy manual focusing, but very very very few people are going to be doing any manual focusing through the viewfinder with this camera anyway.
still larger than the viewfinder magnification of the Nikons.
However, it is disappointing it's actually smaller than the viewfinder of some previous Rebels. I still have my EOS 450D which has a larger viewfinder than the 650D, 0.87x magnification. Some tests claim even higher like 0.95, I doubt it but still the viewfinder on that camera is pretty good for a pentamirror.
Wow. People dont seem to like that Rebel logo. I love it. Bought my T3i from states just because i wanted that logo. I love black, but a little splash of colour makes it better.
So when will the IQ results be in? I hope that hybrid AF isn't the only thing new on that sensor. That would make this a very compelling camera, esp. if it's launched at a Rebel price point.
When will the IQ results be in ? They are in, they are called samples. Or are you waiting for a subjective and meaningless "rating" and "Pros/Cons" section ?
I'm afraid that yes, I am a blind bat who has to wait for someone else to tell him how good or bad a camera really is. Sad, no?
Why in the world would a touch-screen be so polarizing?
a) It can be disabled.
b) It does not seem to have come at the expense of any manual controls.
c) It appears to be well implemented.
It's exactly like the icing on the cake; if you don't like it, scrape it off. :)
Canon lost the sensor round completely.
some super-filtered jpegs can't stand a chance in RAW samples..
Assuming that 650D will offer nothing more than the 600D in RAW
Same thing as 5D mark3 offered nothing better than 5D mark2 in RAW.
Very similar IQ.. i'd say identical.
Its impossible to catch up with the new nikons d800 and d3200 that play in a different league. Plus the stupid delays in stock...
i'm one step in changing equipment.. only problem? i love my L glass :(
what do you mean with "super-filtered JPEG" and on what info is your comment about the d3200 based? All the D3200 samples I found are softer than those dpreview (independent reviewer!) made with the 650d - so I'm looking forward to the full review with comprehensive high ISO testing...
... and I'm loving my L-glass, too - if there was anything comparable from Nikon I'd have switched two years ago ;-)
i'm selling all my canon gear lenses + 5dm2 and will go with the d600 or d800. Maybe even pentax if they release a FF.
You should be able to pick up any current DSLR, at any price point, and get excellent results. If not, you need to find a new hobby, like knitting or stamp collecting.
I think the way to go is to keep your current Canon body and L glass, but buy a 4/3rds or NEX for the newer features such as video and portability.
All these improvements say to me that all is not over in the land of DSLRs, or whatever mirrorless, lens-compatible equivalent they may morph into. A responsive and usable touch-screen would be a huge boon for many features, as would on-sensor AF for live-view use. Not only filming, but also manual focus-tuning makes live-view indispensable for the way I shoot now, so to improve the AF there without losing an OVF (as Sony does) would be very nice. I'm a Nikon user and hope these advances make their way to me soon.
The DSLR may be big, but it's a great form factor for flexibility and is clearly far from dead.
to perfection I miss couple things... time-lapse shooting, some kind of panorama, longer battery life (by Canon 1100D is it 800 shots) and multiple exposure (my old film camera Canon 3000v has it)...but still is this one great camera indeed
Hey, Sony sensors lovers! Sony sensors are little better in terms of noise, but much worse in terms of colors. So stop please! Canon is the best!
Nah ! Check out the nikon D800 official samples from nikon, the pentax K-5 samples, the nikon D3200 samples. Check put the DPR challenges, this shot is from a nex5 and was second, how are the colors and DR ?
Canon just keeps laging and lagging, refreshing the count on the camera logo and adding neat video features.
Depends on the toppings. Sony cameras usually have the best color separation. Canon struggles the most with reds, a sacrifice made to improve their low light performance. To get an idea, go to the full sensor reviews (not comparison pages) at DXOmark and look at the "colour response" tab.
I agree - Canon is terrible at reds - that red cloth used in the comparison shots is always aweful.
Superka - hahahaha! ROTFL.
Sony sensors sux in colors only when they are overtuned towards noise performance - like Nikon does it. Try shooting with proper Sony camera using Sony's own sensor - it rules the colors of both Nikon (which is quite easy) and Canon easily. Sony is the only corporation out there that has a team of color engineers working for giving the proper colors separation with digital sensors that was inherited back from Minolta days.
I think many others improvements should be made:
1. Dual (optical and electronic) switchable viewfinder.
2. Built in protection to LDC screen so as to permit image view under direct sun light
3. A mixed switchable LED and Flash dual purpose light.
4. A single dedicated exposure wheeled button with real electronic exposure preview.
5. Why not a bluetooth?
Neither in your list is an improvement, personally I need nothing of this.
Eleminating moire and increasing sharpness in video would be a real improvement. To this demand a sensor from digital cinema camera.
If you want to do cinema like film sharpness is not an imperious need, in fact, most of the cinema films lack purposely sharpness. Documentary and scientific films need a good sharpness. Regards moire I thinks it is accpetable currently. Any of NL editing sofware corrects several of these parameters (including sharpness) but to my knowledge no one corrects moire effect.
Ruy - there's a big difference between sharpness and detail.
The problem with the 650D and ALL OTHER Canon DSLRs is they lack detail in video mode. You can sharpen it in your NLE, it won't look nice believe me.
When people say they want a sharper image, they are talking about wanting a more detailed image like a still, not the mushy standard definition video Canon incorrectly labels as 1080p.
More of the same, but very nice all the same!
Easy, just check http://www.dxomark.com/ for formal comparison of camera sensors. It is not the same to compare the camera as a whole though.
The kit lens of the canon, for example, is better that the one that comes with the nikon D3200 I think..
I think it's really impressive (and I'm a die hard Nikon user) apart from the logo. I would happily own one. Just a few short years ago high end pro cameras didn't have this sort of spec and you couldn't have dreamed of this sort of camera at an affordable price. Trouble is cameras have improved dramatically, as have the usual loud unsatisfied voices, but the level of image making has not improved in equal measure.
like the last sentence the most. well put.
to the last sentence: here the 80:20 rule hits again - 80 percent of good image making is done behind the cam (not in the cam) ;-)
The image quality is still not up to 16 MP sony sesors, and sony allready passed to the 24 MP ASPC sensors.
how do you know that?? did you try the camera...
its not about MP's count its much more than that...oh sony..well sorry if you are serious about photography you just dont buy a sony...
Sony sensors are much better than Canon's. Check out the D800.. sony sensor, Pentax K-5 Sony sensor, D7000 Sony sensor.. A77 Sony sensor etc..
@Stollen: I know that because I took a look at them samples here, and lately I've beem checking out the D3200, K-5 samples. Canon shots look like too much noise reduction has been done on them, the colors and detail are ok but the sony shots are in a different league. Great DR, colors, noise performance, the lot.
wow that Rebel-logo is ugly! I'm sure it's a great camera so don't be offended.
It's brutal. Just like my XT is/was. I feel like dremeling it off when I get it.
That's why they invented the Sharpie. :-)
This is high-level compromise: on one hand Canon must keep all the existing lenses from becoming obsolete; on the other hand it is already known that mirorless is better than mirror reflex. Canon solution is much better than Pentax. The "hybrid" solution, combining Phase and Contrast AF is the future.
However, when the Hybrid AF will be implemented also in the mirrorless cameras this "compromise" solution will have a though competion
"on the other hand it is already known that mirorless is better than mirror reflex."
Wow, at least I would lived long enough to read some crap like this :D
"...it is already known..."
I'd change that to "...it is an article of faith to some fanatics..."
EVFs aren't good enough yet to be better across the board than optical viewfinders. Each has it's strengths and I won't go into a recitation.
ok- it is my opinion, but it is based on the fact that: EVF is improving continuously; mirrorless allows smaller, less expensive lenses... and the mirror is just an inheritance from the film era, guys.
Where are the small lens for the NEX system?
Less expensive lenses like the Sony 24mm f1.8, Olympus 75mm f1.8 and 12mm f2? :)
60mm f2.8, 85mm f1.4 from samsung
fuji 35 1.4.... list goes on.
Mirrorless bodies and lenses are a lot smaller, that's a clear positive. And contrast detection is more accurate - no more manual focus adjustments (which the T4i does not even have to begin with).
"Mirrorless bodies and lenses are a lot smaller, that's a clear positive."
Why, have your hands shrunk?
"And contrast detection is more accurate - no more manual focus adjustments (which the T4i does not even have to begin with)."
Then why do contrast-detect cameras miss so often? Oh, right - it's because they require high contrast subjects to work at all, which phase-detection doesn't.
Will ever Canon remove those stupid "night shot", "portrait","Makro", "Flash off"????? Hey, Canon, people are experienced enough already, not to use them!
I know that this will break your heart (grin), but snapshooters buy DSLRs too.
It may also be shocking that new people enter the hobby of photography every week. T4i will probably be a lot of young people's first real camera.
In fact you can see many hangin' 7d with the built in flash always up all over the world..
If you're such a 'purist' you should go back to film.
Just compared the studio samples with those from the G1X, and while I can only compare Jpegs at the moment, it's really disappointing to notice that the G1X, while boasting a smaller sensor, has much cleaner high ISO.
Seems like Canon really used just updated (for focusing) old tech (almost 4 years old) in their SLR lineup.
Maybe they don't want to kill the next 70D or 8D, which will probably benefit from new technology. Ah, marketing!
And that's becoz the smaller pixel and stronger NR, I rather have a bit more detail than mushy...
I'd consider it, but I am kind of holding out for a possible 70D.
Is't it about time Canon consolidated there DSLR camera name conventions word wide, why do they cary on with the rebel brand in the USA and Eos XXX branding in the ROW? we are all pretty much reading the same stuff these days, its just confusing.
Totally agree. I HATE the Rebel X branding, even though I bought the XT and will almost certainly upgrade to this. I suppose one could always order from the UK but there are additional expenses, possible hassles with this. Plus I have a large Best Buy GC waiting to be used up on this.
Yes, I totally HATE the rebel naming. It's confusing and degrading. I have bought two rebels before and just can not stand the naming, so gave it away.
Perhaps it has something to do with the grey market. If Canon USA sees a 650D, they immediately know that it wasn't intended for sale in the USA.
It's still not as bad as "Kiss".
Fine if they want different names to police the grey market they can just add a letter or number code the the end of the name. It is not necessary to call the camera something stupid and frankly embarrassing to be seen with like Rebel or Kiss.
Agreed. The European branding looks much more dignified..Hey, time Canon woke up to the fact that not everyone wants that garish ghetto-style James Dean in your face red goo on an otherwise nice design.
I don't think we need multiple model names, either, but to call it embarrassing is a bit of a stretch.
My guess is that "The Americans" are not technically oriented and need helpful category guiding. The "650 D" just does not tell you it is in the intro category unless you call it "101."
For example, a car show in Europe has the cars raised for the viewer to inspect and admire the undercarriage, while I bought a car without even raising a hood -- a heresy in Europe.
> My guess is that "The Americans" are not technically oriented and need helpful category guiding.
I don't even know how to respond. I must have been imagining living in Silicon Valley for the past 30 years.
I was really hoping that t4i will have built-in wifi but it does not. I guess they want to sell there $700 wireless transfer transmitter with some other function even if you just want to transfer pictures to a pc.
i'm guessing these lenses could be compatible (and focus quickly) with canon's new PDAF mirrorless system - either directly or through an adapter. they were released beforehand to give the mirrorless system more 'punch' and show canons user base some level and interoperability between systems.
...just a guess.
Times ago a Canon executive told DP in an interview that Canon will inovate in film focus in its DSLR. It should be this dedicated native pixels in sensor able to track the focus automatically and continuously like camcorder do. That is a major advance in DSRL movie capabilities. This shows too a major leap of Canon toward mixed still and movies cameras.
Some nice features for a Rebel. I understand upgrading the video capabilities. Now, how about making a 60D II/70D with upgraded still capabilities for those of us who don't do video? I would trade everything video for better ISO, faster frame rate, better AF, selectable minimum shutter speed while in Av, range settable auto-ISO, larger sensor. Come to think of it, offer me a 5D3a with NO video capabilities for $2,500 and I would order one right now.
Canon is not stupid, they know they would lose huge market share if they took out video mode on their DSLRs. It does not cost them $1,000 to add video mode in the 5D MK3. I bet over 50% of 5D MKII users do use the video mode with many using video mode 100% of the time.
The video is implimented in software. The last non video Canon was the 50d but you can make it a video DSLR with a firmware upgrade (albeit with no sound as it doesn't have a microphone). There's no trade off. Leaving it out won't get you your wishlist of better still photo goodies. Certainly leaving it out wouldn't cut the cost of a 5d3 by anything at all. That's like saying "give me a 5d3 with the menus rearragend for 2500 dollars".
$849 for body, lol entry level?.. that's hilarious. For $650 you can treat yourself to a Sony a57 which has already nailed all this technology and then some, ( minus the touch screen/useless) and all without a floppy mirror.
Comparing street prices to list prices is meaningless.
If you compare like-for-like, you'll see that the 650D is $50 cheaper than the 600D was, at launch, and $50 more than the list price of the A57. At which point, it looks quite sensible. Sorry if that's less hilarious.
Wrong R Butler .. A57 (body only) was $699 -- yes that was the launch price. It's $650 at street prices. That's $150 cheaper than T4i launch price ..
What's hilarious now :)
By the way, A57 review is long overdue
Sorry, I was looking at kit lens prices for the other cameras - I hadn't checked what the $849 referred to. I stand corrected.
In which case it's $150 more than the A57 and $50 more than the 600D was. Steeper than I thought but still not that funny. ;)
I agree and likely worth the extra cost over the A57 as well.
You know, I would like to see RAW noise comparison between the t2i, t3i and t4i.
I know it's just a preview and it's just been announced, but I have a t2i and I want to know how much the image improves, to check whether it's a compelling upgrade for me.
They all use the same sensor so don't need to.
The extra price hike means switching up really isn't worth replacement...
Not the same sensor since the T4i has phase detection built into its sensor. Might be some other improvements in there too.
I fear though Canon would be touting noise improvements if there were any...very disappointing if the sensor is no better, that was the #1 thing holding back many of us from upgrading. Maybe they are changing direction and the 60D replacement will finally have a better sensor (nstead of the Rebel often being a step ahead).
did it lost the T3i remote flash trigger?
No. It mentions in the article that the built-in flash can active slave flash units.
but I couldnt find if it will work in ETTL like the T3i does, all it mentions is wireless solutions using their remote transmiter... so I have doubts about it.
I read it in more detail, it retains the wireless capability, which is a nice thing about the previous camera..
Maybe it's just me, but those base ISO images look a lot better noise wise than I'm used to seeing from the 'same old' 18MP sensor... seeing as they threw PDAF onto the main sensor it wouldn't surprise me if there's more tweaks in there..
This is so typically Canon.. play with new features on the entry level and then refine them and take the hyper refined version to the high end and trickle them down after that first iteration. Curious to see what the xxD and xD APS-? bring.
Oh, wow, touch screen and continuous AF in movie mode with just 2 lenses, this thing finally almost caught up with the 2.5 years old Panasonic DMC-G2...
wow ignorance is bliss, just 2 lenses? It can use any canon lens but there are two lenses designed specifically for it.
Your sarcasm would sound so much better if you read things first :)
AmateurSnaps nailed it. If you want to comment on the camera that's fine, but I really wish the various fan boys on DPR would stick to trolling their own brand forums.
PDAF on sensor hints at a lot of really interesting things down the road, including (finally) automatic manual focus adjust fine tuning in future DSLR bodies (which I'm guessing we'll see in the next xxD)..
Self-tuning lenses would be a huge thing and I'm pretty sure it's coming based on this. Didn't expect to see a hybrid AF from Canon so soon and certainly not in a rebel without a *completely* new sensor.
Not only that, but if video is your thing there's now a range of dedicated Cine lenses, even from 3rd parties. So if the amazing (but pricey) canon cine lenses are too much to pay for, there's a Rokinon cine! http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/868914-REG/Rokinon_RK8MV_C_8mm_f_3_8_Fisheye_Cine.html
Can you use it with Lightroom 3 or 4 tethered captured? because you do not have this option with the 600D.
Really good camera if it were 3 years ago, but I'm wondering who will buy this today. Too many way better alternative such as D3200, NEX...
People who want to upgrade their old Canon Rebel cameras?
In what ways do you feel the D3200 is "way better"?
Is it because it has more MP?
Nice statement, now lets see you back it up....
Given the camera has yet to get official reviews !
@AmateurSnaps: +1
@plasnu: people like me who've invested money in good glass and are a few generations behind (cam-bodywise) ;-)
Regarding D3200: haven't seen any real high-ISO samples done with it, yet - while you get a full set of 100% crops up to ISO12800 in the 650d review :)
DCRP states that the Nikon D3200 "tends to overexpose outdoors (and the opposite in our studio)". To make matters worse, the D3200 doesn't have Automatic Exposure Bracketing. It also features "images on the soft side" and "very slow AF when using live view", among other things.
I have a D3200.
the camera is only as good as the lens that u put on it.
There is no such thing as a 'soft sensor,......its all down to the lens.
Don't feed the trolls...
tabloid - are you kidding? They are not not film cameras, a computer prcesses the sensor data.
A precursor to what more 70D can have...as this T4i now firmly is into 60D territory or exceeds in many areas except the build quality (relative), pentaprism and few things. I chose to miss the upgrade from 50D - primarily for the lens micro focus adjust and magnesium alloy and faster FPS (less of the latter two), but if 70D will brign those back, then I am ready to upgrade. Bonus would be the video.
I assume the T4i doe snot have quiet mode - nice to not wear out the shutter when shooting timelapses....timelapse mode would also be nice and it is RIDICULOUS that it does not have one.
I shoot the 7D with super telephoto lenses and I think I will give this bad boy a try. Spec's the only thing is FPS. But 5 is ok with me. Looks like a great video camera for wild life and birding video. But the upgrade to the 7D will probably smack it around pretty good.
Dear Canon,
Where is my fricken mirrorless?
How would Canon know. When was the last time you used it? it's probably around there somewhere.
Well, the combined Canon Fanboy Choir sang the tune for years that mirrorless cameras were lame, because they were not built by Canon. So why would they spend time and money developing and marketing them?
I don't see what's so wrong about Canon focusing on what they do well.
I don't see anyone complaining that Apple doesn't make toasters, and there is more than one company out there making great Mirrorless cameras.
You should stop being obsessed with Canon as a brand, and look at the rest of the market. If you want a great mirrorless system, just get into the M4/3, or dip your toe in Sony's NEX series, or Fuji's X-Pro line.
The only thing keeping you from having a great experience with a small camera setup is blind devotion to Canon. I owned a Canon 450d, I loved it's quality, but recently I pre-ordered an Olympus OM-D E-M5, because I wanted an upgrade, and a more compact system.
Don't be a fan boy, be a responsible consumer.
I want more innovation from Canon.. A mirrorless would be nice! The problem with large corporations is that they don't take risks.
and.. I'm not a Canon fanboy at all, I focus on the practicality of tools. The only reason I want Canon to have a mirrorless camera is because I would have more uses from my Canon lenses, but since they are slacking, I'm not going to wait, Olympus is churning out lovely mirrorless cameras.. I will get Olympus OM-D E-M5 soon, it will be a great travel/walk around camera. :)
I don't understand.. Just because I bought into Canon system I'm automatically called "Canon fanboy". It's just a tool of choice.. It works well for me, the same way as Nikon works well for others.. I'm might complain and whine at times, but that's only because I want the most out of my investment (Canon system). I'm an artist and a "fan of photography", not a fan of products.. Calling someone automatically a "fanboy" just because they have an investment in a specific product is lame.
I didn't call you a fan boy because you own Canon products, I called you a fan boy because you are neglecting that there is already an excellent market out there for mirrorless cameras.
If you want the best "bang for your buck", the NEX 5N is probably one of the very best cameras in the world in that regard. If you want a higher-end camera that performs as well, or almost as well as a DSLR, and gives you control options that are very close to one, both the NEX 7 and the Olympus OM-D E-M5 are excellent choices.
As long as you keep neglecting those options just because you like your Canon DSLR, you will continue being a fan boy.
Do note I'm saying you're forced to like the current options in the Mirrorless market, but so far you've only shown neglect for it.
If Canon introduces a mirrorless system, it's almost certain that you won't be able to use your current lenses without a converter, losing a bit of quality, and maybe even losing AF in the process.
Serious photographers own expensive lenses and want to reuse them on a mirrorless...Sony/NEX doesn't work with Canon lenses the last time I checked.
More than one - (but now 9!) cross-type sensors is a first for a Rebel. Well-done Canon!
18MP, low noise at ISO 12,000. We have come a long way. This was a what, a $7000+ camera just a few years ago, and that was without an articulated touchscreen or live-view.
This rebel will focus better than my 5D mk II ouich
The 5D2 is something like a 500D with a freakishly expensive sensor in it, itsn't it?
Its funny you say that because someone once said the 500D was a poor mans 5D Mark II , which is probably right looking at their specs
Like said in the review, maybe the camera will (hopefully optionally) use phase detection to fast focus, and then use contrast detection to fine tune (for all lenses).
Will it support SDHC-UHS cards (higher speed than normal SDHC)?
Nonsens such (expensive) cards. Each Class10 SDHC/SDXC (writing 15MBps, reading 20MBps) is faster than each Canon can handle.
UHS-1 are no longer expensive ... you can get 8GB 95MB/s UHS-1 for $27 on amazon, and they do clear the buffer much quicker than class 10
@Knallberto: that's obviously because up to now UHS is not supported ;-)
so my question still stands...
I paid $13.99 w/free shipping for my 90ms/sec UHS-1 8GB Panasonic SDHC card from J&R last March and it works in all my cameras. The T4i is not a high speed DSLR so I don't know why people are getting bent out of shape over UHS-1 SDHC/SDXC cards. I bet all cameras coming out now support UHS-1 cards. I use a Pretec USB 3.0 card reader with my UHS-1 cards for fast uploads to my 6-core PC.
Yes, it supports UHS-I.
ok, to be more specific: does it support the faster transfer modes of UHS (might give some advantage when internal buffer is full and the cam has to write to SD in burst mode)
We won't know that until we receive a production unit, I'm afraid.
18MB x 5 FPS seems high speed to me.
Not that I want a DSLR as I like my NEX-5N but if I want one
Why would I got this instead of the much cheaper just $700 Nikon D3200 which has the NEX 7 Sony excellent sensor
Canon is selling on brand name only. The real photographer would turn away from them just like their 5D mark III
I would reckon the Canon 650D is £100 too expensive at release price, not because of the Nikon 3200 (to crippled - but thats reflected in the very enticing price) but due to the current cost of the 60D.
I would also prefer a D3200, but at this price point, I might look long, if I didn't have a DSLR, I might look long and hard at the Pentax K-30 which seems to really offer a lot spec-wise for a little.
As a Canonist, you might want the 650D because a side-hinging flip-screen with touch-to-focus or touch-to-focus-and-snap gives you unparalleled composing possibilities. And no, i don't mean self-portraits. I believe the only other company to give you exactly this in a current model is Panasonic. It is sad, though, that Canon doesn't have a side-hinging touch screen on a FF model. I know you don't need that at all, so actually nobody should ask for it, but still, requirements do differ.
"The real photographer would turn away from them just like their 5D mark III"
Do you have any sources whatsoever to this statement? Would be interesting to read in that case...
"The real photographer would turn away from them just like their 5D mark III"
what is this statement based on?
ZAnton I have never yet had a mobile phone with a damaged touch screen and it gets a huge amount more use than the 650D's will ever see. The fact that you think canon spent all that money implementing a touch screen just to improve future sales of new cameras did make me laugh, so thanks for cheering me up on such a rainy day :)
Anyway I just hate touch screens. Manufacturers save money, because touch-screen is much cheaper than 10-15 buttons. So I am afraid of that tendemcy of t-s on DSLR. Now it looks like fun, but I want to see you, when you will have to dig in touch screen menu just to change exposure. BTW, say hello to people in handshoes.
Touch-screen = fat fingerprints screen => unsellable 3-4 y.o. camera => higher sale on new cameras
Does anyone know if the HD 1920x1080p is real this time?
I want crisp and clear video image.
real ?
Its 4k apparently. upgradable to 8k via magic lantern.
My guess is without any hack like Magic Lantern it will be similar to the 600D/T3i. You might look at a Panasonic GH2 which is about as close to 1080P as you'll find in an HDSLR or mirrorless.
One significant new feature of the T4i is the addition of selectable RAW size: full RAW (18mp), M-RAW (10mp) and S-RAW (4.5mp). With my 60D, I do most of my general shooting at M-RAW simply because it's plenty of resolution for my needs. Plenty of times, you just don't need full 18mp for every shot, but you still want the flexibility of RAW. I shoot most of my wedding images at 10mp M-RAW, with full RAW reserved for the portraits or large group shots. That's quite helpful when you're shooting 2000+ images per wedding, In prior Rebels, you didn't have the option of M-RAW or S-RAW. Now this new Rebel offers M-RAW ans S-RAW! Cool.
Now Rebel shooters who find themselves running short on memory can switch to M-RAW instead of switching over to JPEG. This is a good option to have.
I agree, it's something that's been missing Rebels and is a massive oversight on the D800 where you have to use 36 meg for every shot
no, the D800 offers 3 levels of sensor use 35mp and 15mp - even with FX lenses
I'd be tempted to shoot 3 bracketed full res jpegs instead of one raw. Been wondering for years which is best - if you get the exposure fairly close, then RAW is better, but you only get one chance at some shots and bracketing will almost always nail the exposure, and a fine jpg is good quality. I don't shoot professionally and lazily leave my camera on RAW mode, so I end up shooting bracketed raw images actually when I want to be sure to get a shot.
I think this is a very interesting development, Canon is showing one way they could face the mirrorless challenge: they could turn their dslr into a mirrorless.
If the on-sensor phase detect autofocus becomes fast enough, they can completely remove the mirror, and offer all the advantages of a sony slt, without the half-a-stop light loss of the slt mirror: Fast autofocus during movies, possibility of an electronic viewfinder and articulated screen that work for both movies and images, higher continuous frame rates and smaller body size thanks to lack of mirror. Perhaps even a Pentax K-01 style body without the slow autofocus.
In addition, they will slowly update their lens lineup to support contrast detect autofocus for autofocus fine-tuning. No more calibrating lenses needed.
Sadly, as usual, Canon are moving very slowly, and charging very high prices in the process.
cstogian - hat's exactly what the conclusion mentions. But guess what - it would still be a major decision for Canon as it has to now introduce a whole new series and range of lenses unless they are stupid like Pentax to keep the same flange back distance. This actually is an interesting situation (read difficult) for Canon! Entry level DSLR users have to then abandon thier current Rebels, XXD models and move to the mirrorless format. More expensive proposition as millions need to abandon their lenses or use manual focusing (not something an entry level looks doing). Then only users of Canon's traditional lenses will be advance amateurs and pros. So they need to think of what direction they want to move. Tough ground for Canon to be in....any thoughts folks? DPR?
@SulfurousBeast The thing is that with on-sensor PDAF and a completely electronic mount Canon are in a very good position to make a new mirrorless system with an adapter that offers 100% backward compatibility with DSLR lenses (including fast autofocus on all lenses), better even than m4/3->4/3 currently offers
Andy - Agree, but Canon has to still make new lenses for a new mount. Adapter, however sophisticated would defeat the purpose of ILCs portability and convenience. Then I would argue, Pentax strategy is a better one, if anyone needs to use adaptors. While Canon may and I believe possess all the technology needed to make MILCs, my point is about the position they are in currently and the direction they need to choose to go forward. Classic example of being weighed down by your own success and legacy (in this case the millions of EF and EFS lenses)
Gotta buy new lenses to reap full benefits on the T4I (or maybe it should be called T$i)...
Canon slow innovation makes me keep my 550D/T2i still for a while and rather invest in the coming Canon mirrorless body if it's worth or Olympus EM-5 which is so far the best mirorrless product ever !!
Seems like a nice set of specs but I rally hate touch-screens on cameras.
why so serious man? just disable it.
Do you also hate touchscreens on your smart phone? It's a touchscreen world, pal. I would never buy another cell phone without a touchscreen, and eventually the same will happen with cameras! The idea of having to use a fiddly directional pad, joystick or a thumbwheel on a smart phone or tablet in order to navigate to any area of the screen is simply laughable, and yet people actually *prefer* this method on a camera?
I think the idea of cutting out the middle man (ie, the directional pad, joystick or the thumbwheel for navigating) is a great move forward for cameras. If I want to activate a certain area of the rear screen, I should be able to touch that spot on the screen...gee, just like on a smart phone or tablet! I'm not saying that these hard controls should go away. But a touchscreen definitely needs to be offered as an option on cameras moving forward, just as smart phone interfaces have moved to touch screens.
Touch screen allows for quick selection of current focus point with my OM-D.
Much faster than using buttons or dials on DSRL cameras without touchscreen.
Hate is a strong word to use, especially for a camera.
I think I understand, but this is
a) A capacitative, glass display that should be responsive and easy to use.
b) Designed for DSLR features, so probably less obsessed with gimmickry than a compact, at least if used in 'advanced' modes.
I personally think that with all the features modern cameras have, they are crying out for a good touch-screen. Fortunately they also keep the analogue controls, for essential features.
Finally Canon got with it! They were WAY too slow to get on the continuous AF bandwagon. As for the touch screen, that's more of a gimmick. I used to be thrilled when I heard cameras were having touch screen LCDs (years ago, Canon also slow on that one), but really it is not a great thing because you find yourself changing settings when you don't mean to, or setting the spot focus on a different part than you meant to. It should be interesting to see what the image quality will be like, as I've had the XT, T1i, and the T2i and all had too much noise. I hope this has improved on the T4i. I am anxious to get my hands on one when it is for sale.
I think this is a GREAT camera. The specs are great and the price will probably be very reasonable.
The new Sony camera got over 500 comments on its preview. I doubt this overpriced hulking non-upgrade of a sucker's camera gets even half as many. Canon hasn't upgraded its sensor in three years, that's an absolute joke.
The joke's on you. This new Rebel's sales will absolutely run circles around the RX100's sales. Comments on dpreview don't necessarily translate into sales because, after all, posting a comment is free but buying the camera is not free!
Besides, each of these cameras has its place in the market. People who want a DSLR will buy a DSLR. People who want a compact pocket cam will buy a compact pocket cam. To compare these two cameras as if they are interchangeble or as if they reside in the same space in the market is the true joke! LOL. So the joke is on you.
I never said anything about sales. Of course most people who buy this kind of camera don't know very much about photography and just buy whichever brand they've heard the most about. That's why Canon can make it ridiculously overpriced compared to the competition.
Comments on dpreview don't translate into sales but they do give you a pretty good idea of which cameras are the most interesting to people who know about photography. The most popular cameras are $200 or cheaper compacts and nobody around here bats an eye any time those get iterated with insignificant changes every year.
The reason I am comparing the two cameras is because it is becoming more and more apparent that the number of people who want a high performing compact is growing and the number people who want a trophy camera that requires a neck strap is shrinking.
My goodness! I read some rubbish on dpreview but this lowers the bar. Canon know exactly what the market wants and have introduced that into an upgraded new model with a sensor which has proven to be excellent and will run rings round the new baby Sony sensor (the little Sony isn't remotely comparable other than it is a camera). These Canon SLRs sell well because they are very good cameras, not because of some conspiracy theory you have.
@IcyVeins- Rationalize it all you want, but the joke is still on you. To claim that people buying Canons "don't know very much about photography" or that Canons are just "a trophy camera" is just plain childish. How old are you, 16? LOL.
One can just as easily say that people who REALLY know about photography, or want to be SERIOUS about photography, and don't want to be limited by a camera with a small 1" sensor, a camera with a fixed non-removable zoom lens, a camera that has a lens that gets very slow on the long end, a camera that doesn't have a hotshoe, a camera that doesn't have a viewfinder, a camera that has no wireless flash capabilities, etc. will instead opt for a camera like the Rebel T4i that DOESN'T have any of these limitations rather than an overpriced camera like the RX100 that DOES have all these limitations! Hahaha! Joke's on you again.
IcyVeins: Please go crawl back under the rock you just crawled out from. Oh, and seek professional help asap.
T3: You're as crazy as he is!
I like how you tried to spin my comments; I said those things about people who buy "this type of camera" meaning a low-end DSLR with beginner features, not about people who buy Canon cameras in general. Most people who will buy this camera are neophytes, that is beyond dispute. Canon goes out of its way to mention how beginner friendly the camera is in the press release.
Also remember you are comparing a $650 pocket camera to a $950 camera that ismuch larger and heavier and whose kit lens is dimmer and has a shorter zoom. My point is that more and more people are feeling "limited" by the size, weight, and cost, and less and less are feeling limited by the differences in performance, which are getting smaller and smaller with every generation.
IcyVeins, what you fail to understand is that people may, indeed, start with a camera like the Rebel, but it gives you MUCH, MUCH greater room to grow as a photographer! So even your "this type of camera" comment fails miserably.
Yes, this camera is aimed at "beginners", but it still offers SO MUCH MORE than what a camera like the RX100 offers. Can you change the lens on the RX100? Can you go wider or longer on the RX100 than what its lens currently offers? Can you use a viewfinder on the RX100? Can you put a flash on the RX100? Can you do wireless TTL flash on the RX100? Can you control DOF as well on an RX100? Can you articulate the LCD on an RX100?
Whether you're a neophyte or not, the smart money for future growth is still better spent on "this type of camera" (ie, the T4i) as opposed to the very limiting (especially for the money) RX100, which offers no room to grow at all! So again, the joke's on you.
I can shoot a wedding with a T4i, but not with an RX100.
If you want to "grow" then at some point you are going to have to upgrade to a new camera one way or the other. The superior lenses for the rebel drive the cost into the thousands of dollars. The Sony is arguably the best pocket camera you can get, depending on your interests. Every camera is limiting, the Rebel limits you in terms of where and how often you can use it, and in terms of price.
Your final comment about shooting a wedding is most ridiculous of all because I'd bet you'd insist on using lenses that cost more than the camera itself.
I agree that this is another ho-hum product from Canon but it will still be a very popular camera, sales wise, due to the Canon branding.
bigdaddave, please tell us, who got fired for buying a Sony?
Joke's on you because this is a different sensor to the 18mpx sensor before. 18mpx is a standardised canon frame resolution now. Theres none of that colour shift on the 550D at 6400~12800 in the samples.
If you think Sony is doing that well, maybe to some vehement fans but in general they're not selling great. Canon, Nikon with every product outsell sony, for a good reason. On paper Sony are better but in use I find nikon and canon in all aspects, better.
T3 said: "but it gives you MUCH, MUCH greater room to grow as a photographer!". Well, if your idea of photography is rooted in behavioral limitations associated with equipment designed for and trying to emulate 20th century technology, perhaps so. But let's be honest with ourselves: the most versatile cameras are the little pocket travel zooms. They will get all of the photos the DSLRs will, and many that the DSLRs can't. The only DSLR advantages are pixel quality, bokeh, and quickness (i.e. for sports), and those are moot when the DSLR can't even get the pic because the subject is too far away or too close for the kit in hand, or in a place where a large camera is obtrusive or uncomfortable to use. There are many more pictures out there that cannot under normal circumstances or reasonable equipment logistics be taken by a DSLR than that can be. I'll never invest in an SLR-style camera again. Too limiting.
(Yawn) The reason Canon is so big is because they make what most people want, even non-professionals (if there are any). My guess is they prefer to sell huge numbers of conventional cameras rather than worry about how much gossip they can generate on dpreview.
What most people want isn't what most people on here want. And the evidence of that is in the number of comments. Hell this one comment chain alone has 15 of the 109 comments.
I think it is a pretty nice camera for the rebel line...from specs alone im almost tempted to down grade from my 60D...ALMOST!!!
which you will regret doing once Canon releases 70D, which I am sure is up for update soon
If you shoot RAW at even a mildly brisk pace, you'll want to stick with the 60D. The Rebel (as is the case with all the Rebels) has only a 6 frame RAW buffer. After that, you can only shoot as the buffer clears enough space to take another shot. The 60D, on the other hand, has a generous 16 frame RAW buffer, which means no shooting bottleneck while shooting RAW. That's one big reason why many people choose an XXD body over a Rebel.
If you only shoot JPEG, or never shoot RAW at a brisk pace, it's a non-issue. But for any brisk-paced RAW shooting, the XXD's bigger RAW buffer is a necessity.
DSLR prosumers are one spoiled bunch.
Keep 'em coming, Canon, Nikon, Sony, etc...
One of the best responses so far :D
For anyone looking to get into photography there are so many fantastic options available to them from what I think is becoming a more competitive market.
This can only be a good thing :)
I agree. I clearly remember drooling over a 6mp digital that cost a year's wages. My first 6mp camera cost 2 months wages. Now this 18mp gem is under a week's wages.
That is great news, according to my calculation, no longer than 2089 and we will see a Rebel T81i with 24 MP like Nikon and Sony, so I'll stay with Canon and wait for that day, if Azraeel ( the angel of death) wait for me so long.
shut up and take my money
Rebels are long over due with EOS-1 controls of it bigger dSLR siblings, with thumbwheel controls (lockable) rather than the less effective 4-way Nav buttons or anything menu-driven (even with a touch screen).
Some PowerShots have the thumbwheel, but it's not lockable (for those still using AE modes, and don't want accidental priority adjustments). those who would use M more, it never needs to be locked, unless passed to others for handling.
I don't think thumbwheels are necessarily better. They get easily nudged, thus requiring the tedious lock-unlock feature. That lock-unlock feature is a necessary evil because thumbwheels have that major flaw of being so easily nudged! That isn't the case with 4-way nav buttons. Canon has made improvements on their lock-unlock switches (which is now a button on the 60D), but it still sucks to have to deal with it at all!
As for "menu-driven" interface, Canon's current screen interface really isn't about digging into menus, especially with the "Quick Screen" interface which basically offers surface-level interaction with every setting or parameter you see there. It's even better now that the new Rebel has a touch interface thus negating the need to use a joystick or control wheels (archaic!) to scroll to your desired setting you want to adjust. It's so much better to just use your finger to just touch the setting you want to adjust. Time to join the 21st century.
Just imagine if the iPhone or any other modern smart phone required you to use a joystick or thumbwheel to navigate to any icon or area on the smartphone screen! LOL. Any phone with such a limitation would be universally panned for having such a horrible interface! And yet, in the camera world, there are still people who seem to think that such an archaic interface is a positive. No thanks. Canon is moving in the right direction with a direct-access touchscreen interface.
I'm looking forward to seeing ALL of Canon's future DSLRs getting touchscreens. Sure, for those out-dated oldies who still prefer to navigate exclusively with a joystick or a thumbwheel to get around on the screen, they can keep doing that. But I think the rest of us will appreciate having smartphone-like rear screen interfaces. I'm not saying the joystick or thumbwheel should go away. It won't, because in some situations that's a better option. But bring on the touchscreen option!
Well, T3, you obviously don't use your viewfinder very much, do you? If you do, please link to a video in which you demonstrate looking through the VF and adjusting shooting parameters on you touchscreen at the same time. "out-dated oldies", oh please...
I very much look forward to the touch screen. I love it on my NEX 5n. I wonder, however, whether it turns off when you have your eye to the OVF? I would hate to have to worry about changing settings in addition to just getting nose grease on the screen... :)
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Good, not great, but good barbecue – Located in the end of a small shopping center, I've been to Sonny's twice. Once for their dine-in service, and once for their surprising drive-thru service. I'll speak about the dine-in service first.
The dine-in experience was pretty good. The service was average but our waitress did her job well. After being served our drinks, my girlfriend and I could only chuckle at the glass barrels that they give us to drink out of. Now, I'm a big guy, so I'm in NO WAY complaining. I just thought it was quite humorous to be drinking out of something so big. When I went, there was an all-you-can-eat ribs special. For a big guy, that special was just glistening in the light. Needless to say, that's what I ordered. The ribs came out three at a time, which was kinda rediculous in my opinion, but there were 5 different barbecue sauces to choose from, which I loved. The barbecue sauce caddy was similar to iHop's syrup caddy and allowed for experimentation with mixing and other sauce fun. However, the ribs were... basic. That's not to say that they weren't good, but they didn't have the slow-cooked, meat-fall-off-the-bones ribs that you get at some of the more local places.
Though I had a good indoor experience, I think that Sonny's shined in their drive through. Though the food was the same, this service was rediculously fast and one of the best values I have seen for barbecue. For about twenty dollars, there was this huge meal for two: ribs for two, two sides for two (four sides in total), and bread (garlic bread or cornbread) for two. All of the food came out very hot and fresh and we didn't even wait five minutes. I'm still wondering how they delivered food that hot so fast.
Anyways, I would recommend Sonny's for anybody needing their "fix" of barbecue. It may not be the best, award-winning barbecue in Florida, but food is good, service is decent, and their drive through is great.
Inexpensive barbecue is the main draw at this reliable Southeastern chain. – In Short
Owner Sonny Tillman has been serving the same Southern barbecue and fixings since 1968. A common roadside stop, Sonny's offers low prices and barbecue; roomy booths, wagon-wheel chandeliers and homey craft art are the standard dining room decor. House barbecue sauce, available sweet, regular or hot, spices up large helpings of smoked beef, pork, chicken, turkey and ribs. Sides like fresh fried okra, onion rings and barbecue beans complement the entrees.
Sonny's Bar B Que – Poor Service, Poor food. Not real BBQ. Served Chopped and formed meat. Beef chicken and turkey were not completely cooked. Beef made my husband sick. Rude waitresses, nasty nasty nasty BBQ sauce. WILL NEVER GO THERE AGAIN
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Dear Sex & Diabetes,
My husband was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes seven years ago and put on oral medication. We've had some sexual problems since then, and lately there has been no sex at all. He says that he doesn't want it or need it. We had a very good sex life before this. What can I do? I think we all need intimacy in our lives. At least I do. I don't feel that it is fair to me to be left high and dry, and I want to do something to help him.
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Dear H and D,
Yours is a sad and very common story. Diabetes can impact our sex and love lives physically and emotionally. But there are ways of maintaining and even improving sex and intimacy with diabetes.
Here are some possibilities to consider:
Talk about it
Your husband seems to be hurting, but he is not being fair to you. You two really need to talk about how you feel. You may want to start by saying something like, "I really love you honey, and I hear you when you say that you don't want or need intimacy, but I do. What are we going to do?" You may want to seek help with this conversation or follow-up conversations from a counselor or diabetes educator.
Your doctor might be able to help with a testosterone level check and maybe a change of antidepressant or blood pressure medicine. Perhaps your husband could benefit from one of the erection drugs. These drugs (sildenafil, or Viagra, tadalafil, or Cialis, and vardenafil, or Levitra) work well for most men and some women (although they are not approved for women). They're worth a try at least. Unfortunately, some doctors are not comfortable talking about sex. If you sense that yours isn't, ask him firmly to refer you to someone who is.
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If you're willing, you can enjoy non-intercourse ways to have sexual pleasure. Hopefully, you and your husband are open to trying new approaches. There are things you and he can do with your hands, mouths, other parts of your body, and with toys that don't require erections and can give both of you a lot of pleasure, closeness, and orgasms. Here's a good starter article on sexual touch. All these things work best if you explore, talk about them ("I really like this." "I really want to try that."), and treat it as play.
But how do you get him interested in the first place? It's important to set aside time both for pleasure and for talking about issues in your relationship. If you try to jump into bed after a hard day, with tense feelings and with all your concerns unmentioned, you are not going to have good sex. Even healthy twenty-five-year olds can't do that.
Try making a date. Set aside some time for loving but honest talk. Maybe put on some music. Dancing is a good way to get him moving and in the mood. (And it's great exercise!) Take a shower together. Use your imagination.
Bottom line: Don't give up. Sex problems are just like all the other problems that diabetes and life throw at us. We can manage them with some creativity, courage, and communication. Keep trying, keep talking, and see what happens.
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xbox one b/c it has a tv and gaming and ps4 has gaming I think so xbox1
ps4 ps4
Go PS4! The votes are in. PS4 is winning by A LOT and xBox can go die
I know that thousands are getting the PS4
But who is actually getting the xbox one?
In 10 years Microsoft will be nothing but micro. mark my words Microsoft is slowly becoming nothing. apple and PS4 are going to run its billions of dollars into the ground. Microsoft thinks its the all mighty, but doesn't realize that all the companies around it are growing while it is shrinking. good bye Microsoft and good riddance.
lol the xbobx copied the concept with the eyetoy and just called it cockhead sorry micrococksuckers ps4 ftw
im going to move from xbox to ps, had enough with all the problems on xbox, also whats with the online check-in thing anyway, this is a console not a mobile phone!
why the hell did they name it xbox one??
that pretty much says it all.
If there is 5$ a week in XOne I'll bye the PS4!
Probably getting both but a little suspicious the PS4 never actually showed the console during their "reveal". Could it be because it's not finished and they wanted to get the announcement jump on Microsoft? Probably. Hopefully they'll have a system to show at E3 and not just the games running on phantom hardware.
still getting both on day 1....
What I know so far is I have no interest in an X1.
Still think that ps4 is going to beat this fight !
wait for E3 and see the xbox one
Out of both consoles, I'll end up buying the PS4.
Waiting till one of them or both go way down in price AND prove that nether one was any Problems . ( ROD - LOD ) etc .
I'm just going to leave this here. https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7509069824/h9D3BC9CF/
But please have fun choosing a console based on who's going to be the lesser pain in the ass to play games with.
For me PS4 day one and nextbox after the price drops to the $250 range
xbox one and ps4
all right with playstation until you fix the problems with your game servers playing online that went down for one month just remember ps fanboys just remember
All right with Xbox, until you get the red ring of death. just remember Xbox fanboys, just remember
what is xbox one ? i only know ps4
I don't give a rats ass about social features. I'm gaming. I like gaming. I like gaming alone.
Can't we just get a traditional offline only console which can game very well? With none of the garbage like twitter, facebook, google+ etc.
I just want to freaking game by myself in comfort of my house without any external dependencies. Is that too much to ask?
So blu-ray is on xboxone. Won't that mean they will be payin Sony for every blu-ray sold.
How are there still fans of Xbox after this?
BLURAY GAMING IS REGION LOCKED ON XBOX ONE...Well, what else can we expect from the company that is pushing the cloud through your nose. When people think BluRay we think Region Free alas PS3....but noooo that would be too good to be true with Xbox One.
so let's recount the positives and the negatives shall we?:
- A semi improved xbox360 controller.
- A flashy gesture and voice recognition system
- It has been confirmed that we can fully shut down the console when not in use...but isn't that suppose to be a given on any electronics?
- A "24 hour internet check" for gaming functionality regarless of multiplayer or NOT.
- Your downloaded games and DLC that you purchased over the years WON'T Play.
- Your Profile would have to be shared if you want to let a friend or family member use your Hard Copy and Downloaded games by doing so the certainty of them ruining your gamer score and gaming library recorded on your profile.
- Your Favorite headset won't work...Microsoft wants you to buy a new one!
- Kinnect is now forced on you on every xbox and you can't deactivate it.
- The Xbox brand represented a Gaming console with multimedia choices, NOW is a Multimedia Box with restricted gaming functionality.
- Indie Developers no longer have the freedom they used to have.
- The box looks like it came through a Time Machine from the 80's and Microsoft wants us to put that in our Living Rooms???
- Microsoft still have the technologically inferior box compared to SONY...might not seem like by much, but faster Memory and Processor equals better games.
- Microsoft putting up restrictions on how you buy and trade your used games...what it used to be a hassle-free process and decision, now it's a nightmare.
- And now BLURAY GAME DISCS ARE REGION LOCKED thanks to Microsofts paranoia....so much for the possibility of buying those games that might not make it in your country like we did with the PS3 and most xbox 360 games.
I'm pretty sure the negatives outweigh any positives listed here or the ones you would like to think of....
the choice is clear and your hard earned money will send a message to Microsoft to either support them on a half-ass gaming effort full with restrictions and hassles or if you would want them to know you deserved better as a gamer.
Console wars are giving me a headache.
Ohh yeah! & Who's got the better online service that comes w/perks??? Xbox won that last time but Sony has taken notes & PS4 now comes w/mics so now ppl can party chat & actually pull friends into games & jump into games. mmmmh SOE is now similar to Xbox live so don't expect it to be free Sony's moving fully to their PSplus for awhile now kiddos! I think Microsoft just might still have the better online service, they've been dealing w/it longer so no bugs!
I've got an idea that more than likely is true! Both systems will be extremely powerful, play games great, & even the garbage games will still look good & play smooth..... Now who's got the better games? huh! huh! huh! DDR CP3 R2D2 HDD RAM etc lol
This is all well and good, but will they play tapes?
They forgot one thing. That Xbone is the next water-cooler powered by rocket science level stuff.
Why is gamespot trying to justify ddr3 over gddr5. fact isthe consoles will handle large amounts data. Gddr5 would provide well over tripple the bandwidth (6.4gbits/s vs 25gbits/s and its much more suited for graphics. Hence why all modern pc gpus feature dedicated gddr5.
@kbaily Barf ... ew you got me ... can't beleave I looked at that ...
@xavier141524 We can give credit to Anonymous for that! PlayStation gave all its PSN members free games and 3 months of PlayStation Plus as an apology.
@SKErwin Probably not this time. Apparently that box is so huge because of the monstrous.. heatsink! Not kidding, I've read it in the picture comments of the dismantled XBone.
That might be what you want, but what about what most of the people want? isn't this supposed to be a profitable business? then Microsoft must follow what satisfy most of the people (not just what fanirama and a few others want).
@eddy513 I think you're right. Of course, both companies are pushing for digital downloading of games, so it may not really matter in the end if disks eventually go away.
@SS55SS55SS55 Because we hold hope for MS smartening the hell up lol
@johnny0779 I disagree with everything you said!
sigh.. no I don't, not even in the slightest
@johnny0779 Nuff Said.
@johnny0779 Ditto friendo, hopefully the xbox community can wise the fuck up and NOT buy this half assed crap, unless of coarse micro magically changes their approach towards this "system"


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15 cent spread was new to the Fort Wayne stations...
NSG.. If you look at the socalled 'new and improved' technology most every vehicle offers... old style hydrylics for steering and braking.. replaced by better electrical motrs.. crank windows and manual doorlocks?/ things of the past due to electric motors... the 'mdoern' vehicle has soo much electric in iit.. the only non modern thing about it is.... you got it!!! is the good ole pollutin' internal combustion engine.. sorry about the spellin'... now we jus use fonetics sinc txting.. J1
I can't wait to get a Tesla... very high on my dream list.. I 'll get another 50+ mpg hybrid first (a 2015 accord perhaps)..but someday.. I'm gonna get a tesla.. those things rock!! Nicer than any corvette or porch in my mind any day... 98% energy efficeintcy blows the doors off anything out there... the Volt is still doing pretty good too... it ain't a mad rush.. but it's flowing.. hyrids are all the rage.. anybody buying and getting less than 35-40 mpg certainly looks pretty clueless these days.. Best J1
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The year 2007 was a busy one for the beautiful Kerry Washington; she appeared in Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer and received nomination after nomination for her impressive performance in The Last King of Scotland. Kerry also worked her magic in front and behind the camera in Common's music video for "I Want You," playing director as well as star. Kerry has gained respect because of her talent and garnered male admiration because of her beauty, earning her the No. 89 spot this year. Read more about Kerry Washington