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Wow! First consumer digital camera that delivers real film-alike look. My congarts to RedDot guys!
Now I wish something like digital version of Yashica T4 Super Tessar T* with B&W digital sensor at realistic price.
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We've prepared a hands-on preview of the Leica M-Monochrom 18MP black-and-white rangefinder. The M-Monochrom has no color filter array in front of the sensor, meaning it captures more of the available light but cannot perceive color. It also means there is no need for demosaicing (the process of combining color information from adjacent pixels), so higher levels of detail are retained. Our preview includes real-world samples we shot with the M-Monochrom, to show just what that means in-use.
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Wow! First consumer digital camera that delivers real film-alike look. My congarts to RedDot guys!
Now I wish something like digital version of Yashica T4 Super Tessar T* with B&W digital sensor at realistic price.
Well done Leica. As can be seen, B&W still sometimes is superior. I like the dpr samples from this camera and the samples and 100 pct crops are of course much better than what we usually get out of our (more advanced) compact, m4/3 or DSLR cameras, with all their 'filters', sometimes more or less natural colors and occasionally therefrom converted B&Ws....
Hopefully this first Leica B&W niche attempt could develop into an X3-Monochrome with a summilux 50mm/1.4 equivalent, which could be more within reach of us lower/middle class amateurs. E.g. as a 'once in our life' investment supplement to our color cameras.
Totally agree with Zigadiboom. I fail to see how I cannot achieve just as good B&W results and then some from my newly acquired D800, a copy of Photoshop and Silver Efex Pro.
I will admit that photos taken by a Leica M do appear to have a certain unique quality about them but, come on, Leica still remains the domain of wealthy enthusiasts who prefer a badge over technical features and performance.
This is the first camera where the old colour filters will actually do a proper job!
I think its a great forward-step in manufacturer options.
Now all we need is a sensibly-priced camera company to jump on the bandwagon.
My money's on Canon first ...
If this is the result of a right market study all will be o.k.
To achieve this resolution, you only have two choices, buy a roll of Adox 20 CMS for your M6 or buy a Leica M! The Leica M is a further step in digital photography, we like it or not ?
If I was to buy a D800 or 5DMark3 I know that the premium in investing in one of these will give me the lastest in sensor tech, unmatched high iso performance, build quality, image quality, superior dynamic range, cutting edge speed and performance and a plethora of flexibility when it comes to manual controls. I know what I am paying the extra money for.
With the Leica at twice the price of the D800 and 5DMark3 what exactly am I getting extra? Somebody needs to enlighten me. Leica is a fine company and they make some of the best optics going around and have a strong pedigree. There is no denying this but there is only so much a company can use its badge to command a price premium. The so called thoroughbred monochrome samples that I see above doesn't move me in the slightest for what this camera is worth.
However the camera does have one thing. For $7950 u at least get the privilege of reviewing your high resolution 18mp images on its state of the art 230,000 dot screen.
If you can see the images and still say that which you have just said above, then this camera is definitely not for you.
What about getting access to the wonderful lineup of leica's lenses ?
Could you compare canikon lenses with them ?
You have to read more Ken Rockwell reviews and statements (pun intended)...
"U" get a compact rangefinder which makes use of Leica glass.
If that's not what "u" want, then "u" are free to spend your money elsewhere, but the desires of "u" are not universal and shared by everyone.
Whoever "u" is.
Those pictures are the most beautiful "Image Samples" ever posted on DP review, and I'm not a monochrome guy.
Simply breathtaking. Thanks.
Breathtaking ? Those shots ? Seriously ?
Yes, seriously.
Your sarcasm is a bit too subtle.
If you are serious then what was the last time you have been to an ophtalmologist?
Breathtaking...? wow, Leica should be glad to have costumers like you with you very easy to pleased.
NOT very film like!
Very boring grayscales. There is no juice to these black and whites.
Not something I would expect to come from a Leica.
Define "juice" please? I suspect what you're seeing is the amazing (compared to film) DR the camera is capable of, and misinterpreting that lack of image destruction as something negative.
Oh my...
I wish color digital camera will have the same level of the IQ someday.
Kodak still manufactured Leica's sensors? If yes, until when? if stopped, then who will substitute and will Leica charge these nutty prices?
Well, they just needed one wafer. ;-D
yes, one wafer to last them for the next 5 years !!!
Kodak sold off the sensor business last year already. So the Leica sensors are provided by an independent and supposedly healthy company.
Seems Dpreview is closed for this week, for private party.
Leica should come out with a B&W monitor to complement this B&W sensor.
The color monitors just don't cut it... the pixels stills show color...
They should really come out with a B&W printer without muddy mix of other colors.
Come out with B&W EVF
...and (to be continued)
oh oh leica promoting B&W. i am glad my B&W tv is no longer used but regret junking it, didnt know there are folks that still lives in cavemen time. Losing color information..is losing a lot of value to the photo. imho, if folks just wants loads of details, get the SD1 sigma, the details with colors are resolved beyond standard comparison and turning that into B&W is a much better and cheaper...process
Not satisfied with just knocking the camera, now let's knock B&W photography.
The Sigma SD1 can be converted to B&W and the colour channels manipulated without loss of resolution which is a big advantage over a Bayer sensor. The disadvantage with the SD1 is the limited dynamic range, vertical banding noise and poor high ISO performance. For B&W photography nothing beats a monochrome sensor for outright image quality.
If you forget the possibility of adjusting the color interpretation in post. Resolution is only one thing, and many color sensors can give plenty of that. How color is turned into B&W plays a great part in the quality of the image. With monochrome sensor there are no adjustment possibilities at all after the shot is taken.
Have you good people never used the B&W conversion function in newer versions of PS or Lightroom? It is not just that you pull the saturation slider to the left and get a B&W photo. In Lightroom 4, for example, there are 8 sliders for different colors with which you control how those colors appear on the B&W output. That gives the same flexibility as having an infinite number of color filters to put on in front of this monochrome camera when shooting, except that you can do it in the privacy of your own home, and experiment and make different looking B&W prints from the same file. All this flexibility and creative possibility is lost with this Leica. Leica know this, but hopes and prays that the people getting this camera do not know it.
I hope somebody makes an honest comparison with D800 and this Monochrom showing this simple fact how much creative and quality adjustment possibilities are lost when using a monochrome sensor compared to color RAW and B&W conversion in post.
Petka do not expect any decent comparison at least from all the guys who went to Berlin, I am talking about the Huff's, Read's etc, they are too busy playing with the Leica toys they got trying to convince themselves that this joke makes any sense. So far those first pics looks like any other M9 file converted to BW.
I think people who buy this Leica are aware of this fact. The other fact is convenience does come with a cost. You can play with the sliders all day but the results will not have the same quality as this Leica produces. For example, try mimicking the effect of a dark red filter on a Bayer sensor. The result is significant resolution loss. Even the mighty D800 will result in only a 9MP image.
This is a niche product. If you cannot see the benefits then this camera is not for you.
Funny - you pollute all thread with this "convert color into B/W with 8 sliders" stuff (to say it polite). Obviously you cannot get what is dedicated B/W sensor about. Simple answer - this camera or even idea is not for you. Move on.
I think I get it perfectly well: the same any modern FF camera gives with those sliders centered.
Petka how is that true? Surely the strength of a mono camera is that no Bayer colour interpolation takes place? With colour sensors there is need for complicated demosaicing and all the resultant lowering of quality that goes with that.
So if you think having a high DR mono sensor is the same as an interpolated colour array just moving sliders–I don't think you 'get it' at all!
I think there is a lot of Leica hate here rather than any actual thought about the technology of mono sensors.
"I think I get it perfectly well: the same any modern FF camera gives with those sliders centered."
Obviously you did not, sorry.
Wish I coiuld have shot with you here in Seattle...Looks liek you guys have quite the set up of Seattle photogs shooting Leica...great caps...
I think that, for that price, and for what they seem to be aiming for in terms of form and function, they could've gotten a little more creative with the camera (like, make the camera as manual as possible and remove the screen on it, for example?). The sampled picture does look pretty good, through.
That would be just stupid. The whole point of a digital camera is that at least you can check the pictures.
When I first thought about using a digital camera 8 years ago I originally wanted monochrome only since I was working mostly in BW film. Now there is one and hopefully other companies will make less expensive ones available eventually.
I agree with you. I really like the idea of a b/w only senor, especially, like you, I do most of my work in b/w film. But obviously I belong to the poor bunch.
If a dedicated b/w sensor helps resolution, sharpness, and all those other stuffs, how about a camera with swappable b/w and color senors?
My sentiments exactly. Perhaps we'll see a Fuji Monochrome at some point in the future.
There is one already: choose B&W in the X-Pro1 menu.
At the same time you loose the possibility to adjust the color interpretation for B&W in Photoshop or Lightroom, with is extremely important and useful.
Hey, I've never spent more than $175 on a camera (that includes my DSLRs) and don't plan to -- but in fairness, photographers with an open perspective can be a wonderful thing.... The monochrome camera Phase One put out a while ago cost much more than the Leica -- $40,000 for the back alone -- and certain purchasers (fine artists, scientific photographers for example) found it quite justifiable based on their photographic objectives. Despite Phase One charging 5x more than Leica for a similar concept, I somehow don't remember Phase One being vilified in the same way as Leica has been by many of us.
Just as color photographs are remarkable in the painterly aesthetic they are capable of achieving, monochrome images can possess a scuptural quality that is no less remarkable. Hopefully, this concept will be embraced by other camera makers to the extent that prices come down to a point where all of who choose to can access it.
What you said! Problem is, it's DPR...nothing new with the sarcasm, bashing, envy, etc..
In reality i cant afford this camera. [not right now] but in the future i would love to have a high end Leica. I respect the B&W feature of this camera, i am no purist but this is something would win respect of other street photographers. I love it, whatever negative feedback of close minded people have to say here. Leica have done great things as always, they should be paid well for their name because they earn it and did all the hard work.
Beethoven dont need ears to make great music and some photographer dont need colors to get a good photograph.
Sold by it's excellent engineering and complete lack of chroma noise at high ISOs (ISO 1,638,400)
And above all, a Leica camera, manual focus, BW sensor just makes me think so much more...I had been thinking so hard why the heck did I buy a BW camera in 2012, at $7,950.00.
Seriously, with all these talks about B&W-only sensor, I wonder how many actually realize the fact that the viewing of these images are done on color monitors. I just don't see a realistic, practical benefit to this camera unless you choose to print on specialized B&W printers.
Monitors are getting better all the time now, though, keeping pace with advances in images generally. A high colour gamut, 'retina' display could be a great medium for viewing these images, which will be some of the most natural and unfiltered digital camera images yet.
It makes me realise that more work needs to go into Foveon-type sensors to get true colour at full resolutions. While we may have reached a plateau with the D800/E, there are many areas of progress opening up behind it. The Monochrom seems to be one such example.
I would love the idea of B&W-only sensor if someone were to make an ultra-high density monochrome monitor - and I mean like Kindle-kind of resolution with something like 24 bit depth. Then I'd be interested in buying one, but there is really no practical merit while we're viewing the images produced by the M9-M on a conventional color monitor...
Perfect image quality.
A perfect camera only for people with good taste and superior creative spirit.
Good lord. A bunch of posts by a bunch of whiners who are just bitter they can't afford this new camera.
I second that.
Some can't buy, others don't want to buy.
A bunch of insightful photographers who are expressing their opinions that to buy this camera with that price one must either be fanboy or have no idea of what the other possibilities are, while some of them could be affording more than what that camera costs however rather for some other priorities.
So, have you pre-ordered like i did?!
This "camera" is very affordable for those who have zero sense (cents?) and are only interested in a toy.
Nonsense. I have pre-ordered mine, and chosen its place in my display case already.
In fact I would like to hear or read a good and consistent justification to have this camera.Does not come with the excuses of if has money can buy.
B&W with superior tonality, no artifacts from an AA filter nor Bayer filter. What's so hard to understand? Can't you read?
Are you trying to tell us that we must pay $7,950.00 for that?
B&W with superior tonality, I doubt.
can you read $7,950.00?
If you want B&W with superior tonality buy a used Hasselblad 500 CM and some good B&W film.
Good for Leica shooters : great initiative, hope that Fuji will follow
but please stop the snobbish : Nikon 50mm 1.8G AF-S prime lens beats even the best schneider optics, it was tested to be the best 50mm ever, sharp wide open from to corner to corner.
Also, if you claim being a pure B&W shooter, then you should be thinking of buying a proper Digital Devere enlarger : I dont see the logic in shooting with such a camera to show the images on the web or not print on proper Fiber based paper.
What is the base ISO of the sensor? IS there an optimum for B&W? What kind of metering system does the camera use? Is there spot metering that can be integrated a la many Olympus cameras-OM-4; C-2040. There is nothing wrong going back to basics, I did many a pix with Sunny 16 or Sekonic Studio Deluxe, but how many of these electronic marvels do multiple spot metering that can be integrated?
I heard this camera was originally ordered by a daltonic millionaire...
Too much fuss over something invested by Leica engineers not more than a couple of weeks work. For the first time DPR has posted a whole album in B&W; mind that the M9M is not the only camera to shoot B&W.. Wait for someone to come up with some comparison shots by a D800E and a M9M on the same subject through the whole ISO scale and RAW. Let's see the results and then start talking.
The photos are gorgeous from this camera, but for the price they are asking I don't think it's worth it.
If I'm not mistaken the camera and the lens add up to $16000.00. You can buy and develop a lot of B&W film for that amount, plus have a great amount of control over the look/grain.
Anyway, in a couple of years Olympus and Fuji will release their B&W toys possessing the same quality image for a fraction of Leica's price. I didn't bother mentioning Canon, for obvious reasons..
Really? Do any of them have a rangefinder?
No they have the 21 century equivalent called mirror less.
Optical and mirrorless viewfinders work just fine.. Before putting the viewfinder to my eye I analyze the scene and the composition, so I know exactly what I want to capture. Usually a noobie is uncertain and insecure of his composition and needs to see more. :P If I absolutely need to see a larger area beyond my composition before taking a shot, I can slightly zoom out and then after taking a shot just crop the image to my desired composition. It's not really that difficult.. Besides, if there really was an advantage using a rangefinder -Canon, Nikon and many other manufacturers would be on board as well, not to mention all the photographers..
Apart form that, I would be embarrassed to have a Leica around my neck -purchasing such an overpriced product is embarrassing. I rather get an Oly or Fuji, and with the saved cash buy a Kawasaki Ninja, it looks a lot more "cooler" than a red dot. :)
Kudos for doing something other companies wouldnt. Would have been cooler a bit cheaper though... say.... $4000 and you could have justified the cheaper cost due to the simplified processing and sensor... (even it is was a bit tongue in cheek).
But hey, they may well sell tonnes of these.
Black and white! What will they think of next? I thought I saw some dust on the print, and then realized it was on my computer screen.
I fear beloved Leica is becoming a fashion/jewelery brand, exclusively for the uppercrust.
I'm not planning to trade in my Olympus gear any time soon but I do get it. Impressive. Leica has a very elegant solution here. Thank you DPR for the preview!
For me, eh?!, the sharpness of the sample images are just perfect.
Even at 1:1 ratio they have the right amount of contrast.
And it is good to see again a grey scale full of nuances.
Now back to normal life
"Merda d´artista" (Artist´s faeces) was an art work by Piero Manzoni in the 60´s, the project consisted in literally canned his own fecal matter and exhibit in museums. One of those cans were sold at 124,000 euros by Sothebys in 2007.
If that kind of thing happens in this world, Leica jokes do not surprise me at all... There will always be willing to buy "Merda d´Artista".
this is different.
I bet if you had the money you would buy it.
DioCanon: not all the people who can afford something has to buy it. My amateur work has been exposed in England, Italy, Japan and Mexico, I have a Photography Masters Cup award, and I been feature a few times in BW Magazine, and some of those shots were made with the first digital Rebel, Epson RD1s, and Nikon D70. So, no, even if I can afford it I won't buy it, I leave those toys for those who believe the camera makes the photographer.
Someone sure got told. And it was DioCanon.
Leica: We provide less for what you pay more for. B&W only is the cool way to be!
More previews from DPReview...
Where are the actual (camera and lens) reviews that were promised a year ago? Sigh...
Lens reviews are on hiatus (as you know). We hope to restart them in the next few months. No promises were made a year ago.
Reviews have continued at the same rate as usual - they take a long time but there are two big reviews coming soon. Previews are usually written at the cost of news, not at the cost of reviews.
OK. Can't wait for more lens and camera reviews. :)
As for the two big reviews coming up, I presume they are the Canon 5D Mk3 and Nikon D4. Let me guess... 80% for 5D3 and 90% for D4.
If Nikon made their own version of this, it'd cost $2500, and the lenses would be $500 to $1000 each.
But it wouldn't be a Leica.
I think this is a cool idea, if a very niche product (niche at any price). Interestingly, your theoretical camera would have ungodly dynamic range and maximum equavalent ISO, if the poor quality of the color version of this camera is any guide.
Not that it matters - such a camera doesn't exist, and this remains a singular, cool idea. Even if most of us cannot afford such a luxury.
You know, I wonder if the D800E would be a comparable camera with the proper post-processing/levelling. It includes the bayer but skips the de-mosaicing, and has double the pixels. I'd worry about the loss of light due to the filter, but the base sensor seems to be a full 2 stops + more sensitive than the color Leica. You do lose the straight 36MP of unfiltered resolution, but It would seem that reconstruction of an 18+/- pixel image from the RAW data could be done to recreate the mathematical/optical equivalent.
Arguments about form and function stand, of course. Optics may be a bit trickier to complain about given the top-of-the-line Nikkor glass available.
se me nona l'avea le rode,
sarae n caret...
Shooting with a Leica, any Leica, is a badge of quality. Doesn't matter how many MP, what the sensor size is, the thing is the "photographer is shooting with a Leica." It has more to do with perception than camera specs and resolving power.
Folks can diss Leica as being overpriced but if they could have one, they would. It's the Apple computer in a land of Windows. It's a Porsche among Chevys.
Beautifully engineered, it's a pleasure to use. I have two bodies I bought used, an M6 and an M8. All I can afford for now. And two lenses, also bought used.
Forget pixel peeping and getting down on Leica, you use one for the incredible engineering and if there are two photogs on the sidewalk, I'd rather talk to the Leica photographer anyway than the EP-2 shooter.
Because I am expecting a little more. That's what Leica sells--confidence. And noteworthiness.
...and someone of your socio-economic class.
Please extol the virtues of simplicity and direct connection to the image you make with a machine that requires deliberation and thought while taking a picture. The artist who may only be able to afford a mid-level C/N DX camera, but who shoots on manual or - better yet - a handheld meter and cannot afford a camera bag worth more than their car (or two year's rent) would be ablet o have an admirable discussion with you.
I would even suggest that anyone still shooting film would be a better photographic discussion companion than the average digital Leica owner.
Not to say there can't be a great photog shooting with a Ricoh film camera. Or an old Miranda. Of course it is the shooter first. Nobody cared what typewriter Hemmingway used.
But all things being equal, if you hire a shooter, the one who pulls out the Leica will instill more immediate confidence than the Ricoh one.
Because there is the perception that there's nothing like a Leica. And in today's world where everyone's a photographer, we need a little something to stand out in the crowd. The Leica is a part of that.
One other note. The Leica photographer just might take his craft more seriously (I said may) and may not be in the game of what new model is coming out this month. Then that photographer may spend more time in pursuit of photographs and less time catching up on the latest reports on dpreview since they have all they need.
Done the same thing with a Retina Ia, Konica I, Kiev 4a, Fed 5, Ricoh 500, all less than $50.
That's right "FilmFeelsDifferent", only an owner of a $10,000 camera will take photography seriously, not a student who can only afford a cheapo P&S with a passion for pictures. It's not like a Leica is way too expensive and precious so the person who spent a fortune is going to keep the camera on a shelf for display anyways... oh wait, they do.
That's the great thing about photography. Some people pursue their dreams with a Hasselblad H4D-60, some with Leica-M, some with a beat up, hand-me-down Rebel and a kit lens. But everyone is heading toward a common goal. We live in an awesome age. Shoot on!
The Apple of the camera world? Apple is a consumer-driven brand, which happens to be the most valued brand in the world right now, so no... Leica would be a 1995 Oki phone trying to compete in the world of the iPhone 4s and Androids.
Only $8000 for the Leica M-Monochrome + $7000 for the new APO-Summicron-M 50mm f/2 ASPH not bad for a B&W camera, or maybe the $25000 Hermès kit is a better deal...at least it can shoot color!
Meh. My Nikon F4s and techpan developed in technidol kicks the crap out of this POS digital camera.
(Sorry, somebody had to say it ;-)
(oh, and for the cost of the Leica I think I might be able to build a time machine to go back and get some :-P)
dpreview please turn off comments on product releases it has no value if people want to be haters they can do it in the leica forums btw the most positive forum on here
Wonderful output. The results are beautifully sharp and detailed. I love the very fine random noise which looks exactly like B&W film grain. Hopefully this will encourage other manufacturers to produce monochrome cameras.
For all "my camera can do it" comments. Your camera is not a Leica; it does not use M lenses (or you could not afford them), It does not have "clear" pixel filter (color filters cut light by at least 1/3) and your camera will be worth crap in 4 years, this camera will be worth much more money as they years fly by, this is a collectors item. You feel more like a photographer than a button pusher.
You guys sound worse than a 10 year old kid, telling you that his iphone 4s pictures look as good as a full frame DSLR...only difference is that a 10 year old's ignorance is cute.
You sound like a ten year old kid who's daddy just bought him a Leica.
I have no doubt that the sensor technology in this camera will be horrifically obsolete in 4 years, just as it will be in most digital cameras built today. That's my problem with digital cameras - the most expensive part of the camera is the "film" and you have to buy a lifetime supply upfront, knowing that the advances in digital film will make it mostly obsolete. My F4s shoots great film pics and it's 20+ years old. How will this camera perform in 20 years? How will my D3 perform in 20 years? The answer to both of those last two questions is the same, and it is not a positive one.
You don't really get it. Its not about the camera or its sensor.
"You don't really get it. Its not about the camera or its sensor."
So it's purely about the name for you, then.
You're the first Leica fan to come out and admit it, and I actually respect you more for that.
Utterly fantastic - I have LONG been hoping someone would produce a high-quality camera WITHOUT a Bayer Colour Array - just think how much more light reaches the sensor, and how much higher the resolution will be without a pesky low-pass filter. And for those who want to get creative with colour, a set of Hoya "POP" filters or equivalent is all you'd need (as well as a a tripod and some patience) to get glorious colour, or false colour, and more!
Bravo Leica!!
they already did....its called Foveon and its a color sensor.
SD1 could outperform leica anyway in details and true resolution be it color or not...
Fuji X-Pro1 no Bayer Array there!
For those who are interested in a monochrome camera but cannot afford this Leica, Maxmax have a conversion process for Canon Ti DSLR cameras.
This idea has been around for years. Lots of people have been begging and pleading for a black and white only digital camera, because of the sharpness and low-light capabilities.
Now those of us who can't afford $15,000 for a camera and lens combination, or even $1,500, are left out in the cold.
Please, please, m43 or somebody, make a camera like this available to ordinary people. Thanks.
You guys are really silly, this is not a "new idea' and nobody stole your idea.
The great innovator in digital photography created had this concept years ago. Too bad they 'sucked' at marketing and product development.
I just would love to see Nikon to come out with a steel hammer called D-FM3a for EUR500 or so. Only black and white, no lcd, no autofocus, no videos, just as long as it is rugged, rain- and dustproof, cheap, has a huge VF and its batteries last a month..... that would give digital photography back some meaning
Perhaps more to the point is the obvious question - what does 'monochrome' mean in this context? Sure it outputs a monochrome image, but what is the colour response of the sensor? Is it truly panchromatic, or does it have some specific tone curve? At least with a D800, you can *choose* what colour response you want in your sensor output, using Lightroom to generate a monochrome image with the colour response that *you* want, not the one that Leitz has decided you will have. Pklus if you're starting with a 36MP Bayer array, especially the D800E with no anti-alias filter, you still have more effective resolution than the Leica. And better lenses to choose from, and more accurate focusing.......
The cost of the camera and 50/2 would buy you a D800 and $13000 of very good lenses. Am i making too much sense?
Yes you are, but unfortunately Leica has become a rich boy toys... that's why they still making an over-priced cameras and believe it or not in my country there is only one shop selling Leica and most of the time its out of stock and you have to put your name in a waiting list just to get the "mighty" Leica...
if everyone had your limited mentality we would only see Toyota Corolla on the streets,
what is the point of owning a Maserati when I can buy 15 Corollas?
The correct phrase would be:
"What's the point of owning 15 Maserati's, when I can own 1 Corolla?"
Just a matter of choice.
If I had this amount of money, I would rather go for this B&W Leica with a one and only 50mm or 35mm than a new Nikon Machine Gun anyday.
As a owner of a much older and much cheaper Leica M8, there is no reason I would trade my body for a Nikon D800E or an XPro1 whatever.
Leica is the style of shooting style and experience I have been looking for. I want to stick to it because it is what I like.
You can do all the comparison possible to show how superior an XPro1 and a D800E is superior in sharpness etc. to a Leica M8...I won't trade it anyday for my DailyLife photos. Then if you talk about a "workshorse"...sur I would never buy a Leica M for that matter...except if you work at Magnum as a streetphotographer.
Until I win Powerball, I'll keep on shooting my stock of Agfapan 100.
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Common Body of KnowledgeMGNT 3105 Management and Organizational Behavior
Required Courses
MGNT 1000 Orientation
IET 2227 Intro to Statistics
IET 3356 Quality Concepts
IET 4405 Principles of Operation Research
MGNT 3205 Management Information System
MGNT 4135 Project Management
MGNT 4145 International Management
This is 61 hours. If you have taken any of these courses as part of your first major, those will count towards your second major.
Is a dual-major the best approach to adding Business Administration to my plans?
Generally, NO. Someone with an undergraduate degree in a non-business area can get an MBA at SPSU by taking a maximum of 48 hours of additional class work. Since it takes 61 hours to get an second undergraduate degree and only 48 hours to get the MBA, it makes more sense to get your MBA.
The only time it makes sense to get a dual undergraduate major in Business Administration is when your first major requires a large number of these courses or allows you to take a large number of them as electives.
Can I start the MBA before I finish my undergraduate degree?
No. Admission to any graduate program requires an undergraduate degree. However, you can start laying the foundation. At SPSU, students without a business background are required to take eight 1.5 hour transition courses to pick up the undergraduate business background they do not have. You can take care of this while in an undergraduate degree program by taking some or all of the following undergraduate Business courses:ACCT 2101 Accounting I
If some of these courses are required for my major, will they count towards my MBA?
Yes. In fact, some majors may take half or more of these courses are part of their coursework.

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Community Network for Cancer Prevention
The Community Network for Cancer Prevention (CNCP) is funded by the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas (CPRIT). The group is made up of several institutions in the Texas Medical Center along with several community-based organizations across the greater Houston/Harris County area. Led by Maria Jibaja-Weiss, Ed.D., director of the Office of Outreach and Health Disparities for the Dan L. Duncan Cancer Center at Baylor College of Medicine, the goal of the CNCP is to raise awareness about breast, colorectal and cervical cancer prevention.
About Us
We are a network of partners that include several community-based organizations that are: a) working to enhance colorectal and cervical cancer prevention and control services for the medically underserved; and b) initiate and/or expand public dialogues on reducing cancer disparities in specific community constituencies.
Our primary goal is to establish a joint collaboration between Baylor College of Medicine, the Harris Health System, and several community-based organizations to reach out to Harris County residents with colorectal and cervical cancer prevention information.
Collaborating Partners
- Dan L. Duncan Cancer Center, Baylor College of Medicine is a consortium made up of Baylor College of Medicine, its three primary teaching hospital affiliates—Ben Taub Hospital, Michael E. DeBakey Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Texas Children's Hospital, and Baylor Clinic. The Dan L. Duncan Cancer Center brings together all of the cancer-related activities under one umbrella, fast-tracking our efforts to prevent and ultimately cure cancer in all its forms.
- Harris Health System provides access to cost-effective, quality healthcare delivered in a compassionate manner to all residents of Harris County, regardless of their ability to pay.
- HOPE Clinic is a professionally staffed and full-time Federally Qualified Health Center Look-A-Like. The clinic's caring and dedicated staff speaks more than 14 languages and provides culturally and linguistically competent, high-quality care to all, regardless of ability to pay.
- San José Clinic provides quality healthcare and education to those with limited access to such services in an environment which respects the dignity of each person.
- Tomagwa Health Care Ministries provides healthcare to community members with limited resources.
- Neighborhood Centers, Inc. is a non-profit organization that consists of a network of 59 service sites with a mission of "bringing resources, education and connection to emerging neighborhoods." NCI is well-known as one of the city's major proponents of economic and social development, helping nearly 300,000 of our neighbors reach full potential each year.
- American Cancer Society is a nationwide, community-based voluntary health organization dedicated to eliminating cancer as a major health problem. Headquartered in Atlanta, GA, the ACS has 12 chartered divisions, more than 900 local offices nationwide, and a presence in more than 5,100 communities.


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Hotel Portaventura
Hotel PortAventura
Leave stress behind and enter a charming fishing village on the shores of the Mediterranean Sea. You'll be won over by the charm of its small villas, surrounded by lush greenery and two fantastic outdoor pools. Discover the magnificent Hotel PortAventura, close to Salou, where you'll find the perfect formula for combining the fun and magic of PortAventura with the relaxation and tranquillity of its facilities. Enjoy the healthy lifestyle for which Mediterranean villages are famous and revitalize yourself in the gymnasium before taking a deserved rest in the sun in this authentic Costa Dorada village. If you're worn out after an intrepid day of adventures in PortAventura theme park, you can recharge your batteries in the sauna, steam baths and Jacuzzi of Hotel PortAventura. As you know, kids are very important to us so PortAventura Hotels all offer specially designed children's pools so that little explorers can enjoy their own fun aquatic adventures.
The 500 rooms of this magnificent hotel, located close to Salou, are distributed strategically across the whole Mediterranean village. The superb location, just a few metres from the PortAventura Convention Centre and the Mediterrània entrance to PortAventura Park, makes the Costa Dorada Hotel PortAventura a truly special space to stay in every regard. Come and try the delicious dishes we offer in our restaurants, which serve Mediterranean cuisine for all tastes. Don't wait a moment longer – book your stay now for the perfect combination of adventure and healthy indulgence at Hotel PortAventura.
The Hotel PortAventura on the Costa Daurada enjoys a privileged location in the heart of this area bathed by the Mediterranean Sea. The sunny atmosphere and good weather that accompanies us throughout the year are transmitted in the warmth and hospitality of our people. Known for its wonderful beaches, extensive cuisine, leisure, culture and sport with 3 golf clubs in the vicinity of the resort it has become the ideal destination for your holiday in this beautiful setting just 1 hour from Barcelona.
The Hotel PortAventura in Salou Costa Daurada has direct access to the themed area of Mediterrània in the PortAventura Theme Park. In addition to the PortAventura theme park and the water park PortAventura Aquatic Park, the Costa Daurada offers stunning white sandy beaches and a host of cultural activities to enjoy its surroundings.
Each city and town on the Costa Daurada hides a variety of recreational experiences, dining and sports that will make your holiday a unique experience you'll never forget. Come discover all that the Hotel PortAventura on the Costa Daurada has for you. Get involved with the wellbeing that is conveyed by this beautiful area of the Mediterranean in the Hotel PortAventura in Salou. Just 1 hour from Barcelona, the resort has its own train station with trains to and from the Sants Station, one of the major train stations in Barcelona.
In addition PortAventura has a direct exit from the motorway AP-7 that will lead you directly to your destination. The PortAventura hotels are very well connected to major European cities by daily flights to El Prat airport in Barcelona and Reus airport is only a 10 minute drive from the resort. Several transportation companies offer bus services from these two airports and from the railway station of Tarragona its only 20 minutes from the park.
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Latitude 41.084232 Longitude 1.15431
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Discover the Buffet del Port restaurant at the Hotel PortAventura and enjoy authentic Mediterranean cuisine prepared with the finest local ingredients and international cooking techniques. The Buffet del Port's natural light and views overlooking the Hotel PortAventura's lake make dinner a pleasure for all your senses.
- Service: Self-Service Buffet
- Type of cuisine: International
- Location: At the entrance to the park
- Schedule: from 08:00 am to 10:30 am / from 07:00 pm to 10.30 pm
- Reservations: +34 977 35 85 00
- Gluten-free food: On request
*Schedule subject to change without prior notice
Port Regata
Beside the main fountain at Hotel PortAventura is the Port Regatta Restaurant, a place where the food of the Mediterranean merges with the culinary arts from around the world and where you will find peace and relaxation after your adventurous day in PortAventura Park.
- Service: A table
- Type of cuisine: International
- Location: In front of main building
- Schedule: from 01:00 pm to 04:00 pm / 07:00 pm to 10:30 pm
- Reservations: +34 977 35 85 00
- Gluten-free food: On request
*Schedule subject to change without prior notice
Cal Pep
Sit on the terrace of the Restaurant Cal Pep, facing the swimming pool of the Hotel PortAventura, where you can find the ideal place to rest and recuperate outdoors. A perfect place to dine as the sun begins to hide behind the Mediterranean Sea.
- Service: Table and take-away
- Type of cuisine: International
- Location: Beside the pool
- Timetable: From 01:00 pm to 04:00 pm (summer only)*
- Tel. Reservations: +34 977 35 85 00
- Gluten-free menu: Subject to advance request
*Timetable is subject to change without notice
Buffet del Mar
Located in the main square of the Hotel PortAventura, the Buffet del Mar restaurant offers the best Mediterranean products that have been cooked slowly to perfection. There you can taste the delicious dishes in the sunny environment of a fishing village with the friendliness of its people and all made with local produce.
- Service: Self-Service Buffet
- Type of cuisine: International
- Location: Near the main square of the hotel
- Schedule: from 08:00 am to 10:30 am / from 07:00 pm to 10:30 pm *
- Reservation telephone : No need to book
- Gluten-free food: On request
*Schedule subject to change without prior notice
Il Caffè di Roma
The ideal spot to savour delicious coffee together with traditional pastries and cakes, ice creams and milkshakes. Il Caffè di Roma has a spacious terrace where you can also enjoy salads, freshly-cooked pizza and delicious hot sandwiches.
- Service: Café and snacks
- Type of cuisine: Coffees, drinks, pastries, sandwiches, pizzas and salads.
- Location: Next to the main hotel plaza
- Timetable: from 10:00 am onwards *
- Tel. Reservations: +34 977 35 85 00
- Gluten-free menu: Not available
*Timetable is subject to change without notice
The Hotel PortAventura, close to Salou, is uniquely situated in a privileged location at the heart of the Costa Dorada. With direct access to the Mediterrània area of the famous PortAventura theme park, you can fully enjoy all the fun and adventure on offer because PortAventura tickets are included in your stay! There is also a 30% discount on tickets to Costa Caribe Aquatic Park. Fitness fans will love the heated pool, gym, sauna and Jacuzzi that the Hotel PortAventura located close to Salou offers. You can also choose between different massage services to help you unwind after a day filled with adventure. Guests staying at any of the four PortAventura hotels can enjoy special prices on PortAventura Express Max and PortAventura Express Premium which allow you get straight onto the main attractions of PortAventura Park without having to wait. Golf enthusiasts will find special rates in the PortAventura Hotels for Green fees at the exclusive Golf Lumine Mediterránea Beach & Resort that has three incredible golf courses and a beach club with magnificent views and renowned restaurants. All this and much more, just five minutes from the famous beaches of Salou, 10 minutes from the restaurants of the well-known fishing village of Cambrils, 10 minutes from the Roman remains of Tarragona city, and just one hour from the dynamic and cosmopolitan city of Barcelona.


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Grateful Giving: McGraw Family
ONE OF MARJORIE MCGRAW'S FIRST EXPERIENCES at Cape Cod Hospital was very scary. About ten years ago, she and her husband, John, were hosting a dinner party. Their daughter Lee, who recently had surgery at a hospital off-Cape, was not feeling well. During the dinner party, Marjorie went to check on Lee. "I touched her and almost burned my hand," Marjorie remembered. A doctor at the party came to look at Lee and told Marjorie, "Call 911 immediately."
Terrified, they rushed to Cape Cod Hospital with Lee. There to greet the family was Deanne Maraj, Lightkeeper's Society Liaison. Though Deanne is not responsible for a patient's clinical care, she does take care of other important elements related to a hospital visit for Lightkeeper's Society members.
"I help them navigate the system," Deanne said. "I hold their hand and comfort them during what can be a scary time. It's having a familiar face there with them."
Lee received excellent clinical care and recovered fully from her scary ordeal. The combination of great patient care and Deanne's companionship prompted the McGraw family to get involved with Cape Cod Hospital as philanthropists and fundraisers. They have contributed greatly over the past decade, including a transformational gift to support the Mugar Building construction. They also have most of their health care needs addressed at Cape Cod Hospital now. "When we first started coming to Cape Cod in 1952," Marjorie said, "you didn't go to Cape Cod Hospital with more than an ingrown toenail. Now, John even had his hip replaced there, and we are very involved. It all started with the way Deanne took care of everything that terrifying night."
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James Gleick (born August 1, 1954) is an American author, journalist and biographer whose best-selling books include The Information: A History, a Theory, a Flood and Chaos: Making a New Science.
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- Amid the vast modern network of universities, corporate laboratories, and national science foundations has arisen an awareness that the best financed and best organized of research enterprises have not learned to engender, perhaps not even to recognize, world-tuning originality.
- James Gleick (1992). Genius: The Life and Science of Richard Feynman. Vintage Books
- Computer programs are the most intricate, delicately balanced and finely interwoven of all the products of human industry to date. They are machines with far more moving parts than any engine: the parts don't wear out, but they interact and rub up against one another in ways the programmers themselves cannot predict.
- James Gleick (2002). What just happened: a chronicle from the information frontier, p. 19 cited in: George Stepanek (2005), Software Project Secrets: Why Software Projects Fail, p. 10
Chaos: Making a New Science, 1987Edit
James Gleick (1987) Chaos: Making a New Science. Viking Penguin.
- Chaotic theory is mathematically based on non-linear propositions, "meaning that they expressed relationships that were not strictly proportional. Linear relationships can be captured with a straight line on a graph"
- p. 23 as cited in John A. Rush (1996), Clinical Anthropology: An Application of Anthropological Concepts, p. 75
- Following distinctions between linear and nonlinear systems from James Gleick's 1987 book on chaos theory may be helpful. "Linear relationships can be captured with a straight line on a graph. Linear relationships are easy to think about....Linear equations are solvable... Linear systems have an important modular virtue: you can take them apart, and put them together again — the pieces add up."
- p. 23 as cited in: James R. Hansen (2004), Trees of Texas: An Easy Guide to Leaf Identification, p. 246
- Science would be ruined if (like sports) it were to put competition above everything else, and if it were to clarify the rules of competition by withdrawing entirely into narrowly defined specialties. The rare scholars who are nomads by choice are essential to the intellectual welfare of the subtle disciplines
- p. 70. James Gleick quotes here Benoît Mandelbrot
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Barrel 22 Dry Stout - Firestone Walker Brewing Co.
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look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5
From EBF notes. Had a few pours of this one.
a - Pours a dark brown, almost black, with one inch of medium tan head and low to moderate carbonation evident. Looks like a nice big stout.
s - Smells of bourbon, sweet chocolate, vanilla, oak, roasted malts, toasted malts, wood, light smoke, light bitter chocolate, and light espresso. Very nice nose; bourbon is forward but I like it quite a bit.
t - Tastes of sweet milk chocolate, bourbon, vanilla, cream, roasted malts, oak, bitter chocolate, light caramel malts, light coffee. More chocolate and less bourbon than the nose; still really nice.
m - Medium bodied stout and low to moderate carbonation. Smooth and no real alcohol present; very nice mouthfeel.
o - Overall a really nice stout and another great beer from FW. It definitely reminds me of a good Irish Dry Stout aged in bourbon barrels, and it works very nicely. Easy to drink, would love if they bottle this one as well.
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Barrel 22 Dry Stout from Firestone Walker Brewing Co.
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CM Backyard Bible Club meets every Sunday @ 9-10pm.
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TC and Eta plan to have a mixer and play Kickball together
Every semester Tri Chi gives a little party for their beaus to let them know how much we love them. We will just be playing some fun games and have some snacks.
meets every Wednesday at 8:30pm