Ask HN: What advice would you give college students about starting a business?  - <AUTHOR> So I have been given the opportunity to speak at the university I graduated from (Portland State University) about my experience starting Mugasha while I was an undergrad.
I thought I would get some of your thoughts on starting a business.
Here are few questions I plan on talking about.
- Why start your own business? Why start early?
- How to be a domain expert?
- How do you know if you have the right Idea?
- Why it will be the hardest thing you will ever do?
- How do you bootstrap?
- How do you find investors? <comment><USER2> >> _What advice would you give college students about starting a business?_

You are not as experienced as you think you are.

I wish someone I respected had told me this when I was a college student. In college, I thought I was super-awesome. I thought I was already a leader. I thought I was qualified to manage a 100-person company. I thought I didn't have much else to learn; I just wanted to start a company so I could grow it and sell it and make a ton of money like everyone else.

Now I know that I am merely above-average and lucky. I know that for every problem I face, there is someone more experienced than I who has already solved that problem, thrice-over, and wants to help me. If I had known this 10 years ago, I think I would have sought out a _lot_ more advice, been much more receptive to criticism, and been a better entrepreneur.

Note: obviously this is 100% personal and anecdotal. I may have been the only a-hole in college who needed to hear that message, so YMMV.

<comment><USER3> You are not alone, I'm the same boat here. The thing is the experience is something that you don't get until just after of needing it.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> I'd advise against taking on any debt in your own name- It's a very tempting offer, particularly if you have good credit coming out of school, but it will mean that if the business does go south for whatever reason, even if it is outside your control, you may be paying it off for decades.

Instead, build something that can raise profits immediately, and start building from there. That will help to keep you focused on what your revenue stream can support- Borrowed money allows you to have unrealistic ideas, and overspend too quickly.

<comment><USER5> Along the same lines here, I would say just don't make mistakes or large commitments in general that will tie you down. Don't get arrested for underage drinking (or DUI), don't risk having kids, don't take stupid chances with your life or health, don't screw up your credit, don't take on lots of college loans if you can avoid it, etc. Being able to live anywhere and on almost no money will make it a lot easier.

Additionally, do talk to a potential long-term partners about the entrepreneur lifestyle (and not having a high-paying job for a few years), do read as many blogs and books on entrepreneurship as you can (you won't have time once you actually start a company), do go out of your way to meet as many people as possible, and stay in touch with the smart ones.

Also, TAKE PROGRAMMING CLASSES.

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> Tell them that they need to weigh the upside and downside of risks they are taking (financial, time, value) before they take the leap. More often than not starting young has a lot of upsides. No golden handcuffs, More agile/lean , No family to support, Ramen profitability is OK and the delta in learning is huge. Tell them that the upside to failure(which is the worst outcome not considering going into debt) in their first venture is way better than their downside.

Also tell them that the hardest part no one talks about is how starting a company means you are the boss and how you need to plan stuff everyday and get it done. Also, its not the amount of work they get done but the results they get and how driven they are to get those results that matter in the end.

</comment><comment><USER7> I'm a college student who wants to start a business, these are the questions that I'd like answered:

\- do it full-time or on the side?

\- what kind of advice should I _not_ listen to?

\- My skills are programming and designing, what kind of stuff should I learn?

\- do I really need to move to a technology-rich country? (For the effects of your talk, maybe you should change _country_ for _city_.)

\- how do you get customers and do sales if you are an introvert geek?

\- what to look for in a cofounder?

<comment><USER8> > do it full-time or on the side?

What's worth doing is worth doing well, consider your college education over and done with when you start down this path. A startup is time consuming, the first year is the hardest, it takes usually about three years to become established, though of course that changes from case to case.

> what kind of advice should I not listen to?

You should weigh _every_ advice you get (including this!), as to applicability, sanity and whether it chimes in with your gut feelings or not.

> My skills are programming and designing, what kind of stuff should I learn?

If your skills are programming and designing you want to become very good at dealing with people. That's probably more important than either of the other two.

> do I really need to move to a technology-rich country?

No, you don't need to move to a technology rich country, but it helps if you intend to fish in a larger pool of talent, and it may make it easier to divest. Plenty of people have done this from 'non technology rich' countries, there are challenges and advantages there.

> how do you get customers and do sales if you are an introvert geek?

Better change that or you will not be doing well. That's the number one challenge you face I think.

> what to look for in a cofounder?

Trustworthiness, dependability and adaptability.

<comment><USER9> > Better change that

You can't _change_ introversion, because it's not an externally-visible face you "put on," but rather part of your utility function: extroverts (re)gain energy from social interactions, and spend energy working in solitude, and vice-versa for introverts. You can't change what tires you out, although you can fake not being tired.

<comment><USER8> Being an introvert can have many reasons, some of them are 'born in', and are hard to overcome others are caused by a lack of confidence or bad experiences in the past.

You can overcome some of it, but not all of it, your mileage will definitely vary on that one, but almost everybody can shift their attitude, even if only a bit, and usually more than that.

Read 'darkxahnthos' blog on this: <http://socialskydivingwithjustin.posterous.com/>

Giving up before you've started is a great way not to succeed at anything.

<comment><USER9> I never said to _give up_ —I just think there are ways to succeed at external tasks that don't involve changing the kind of person you are internally. Because otherwise, it's basically equivalent to saying "only extraverts can do this job"—that if you aren't one already, you need to turn yourself into one. And _that_ sounds like a defeatist attitude to me—why can't I do that job _and_ still be myself afterward?

But in generally programmer-y terms: I don't think it matters what you've got on running the inside, as long as you can manage to conform to the right protocols :)

<comment><USER8> Protocol is exactly the right term, but 'introverts' can have issues with protocol.

I figure that at heart I'm an introvert, I'm just very good at masking it :)

And over time it got better, I no longer have a problem approaching total strangers and starting a conversation, it became something of a sport. And that kind of ability is priceless in a sales situation, as long as it is genuine.

You can be yourself just fine, it's just that if you appear unapproachable or if you can't approach others that your chances of success as an independent take an instant nosedive. So you man up and overcome your limitations, you try to do your best and in time you'll look back at that 'introverted geek' that you used to be and you wonder what happened to him or her.

It doesn't mean you're going to 'turn yourself in to an extrovert', it simply means that in order to succeed you will have to behave more or less as predicted, protocol as you call it. And that such protocol has a lot in common with extrovert behaviour is unfortunate, but that doesn't mean that you are changing your base character.

I also think that there is way too much emphasis on being 'introvert or extrovert', I hardly ever come across people that fit the stereotypes well enough that the label alone is sufficient to predict their response in every situation.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> I think customer development (from steve blank's book: the four steps to the epiphany) is a really important subject rarely touched upon in schools. Often times you can sell the product before you even create it. That needs to be communicated to students.

</comment><comment><USER11> First of all I think you're doing a great service to the student body. I have really had to reach out in order to gain advice and information as a college freshman doing a web dev business and a summer storage franchise. I think many think about time management a lot. Here at Emory there is a ton of pressure to do well and aim for a 4.0 for Grad School. The time commitment necessitated for venture is difficult to deal with. So please talk about time management. The most inspiring words I heard about the subject probably were along the lines of, take advantage of the free time you have now because later on you'll only have less and less. I think that came from HN.

</comment><comment><USER12> Not sure if you found this to be the case with Mugasha, but as an undergrad currently in the same position my biggest advice would be "get mentors". It never occurred to me how useful and willing to talk people who had successful businesses would be.

Another one is the importance dedication and hard work. I have friends who've dropped out to start businesses. They work harder and longer hours than my friends who stayed in school (myself included).

</comment><comment><USER8> I'm going to write this as a high-school drop-out that did very well:

Finish that college and forget about that startup, assuming you're in a halfway decent college and a somewhat useful discipline.

I know you've been asked to speak about your experience, but keep in mind you've been asked because of your success, and the road behind you is littered by the corpses of those that didn't make it.

Starting a business, while in college, or out of it, is in large part luck if it is successful. By talking to people about what you've achieved you may give them the impression that this is easier than it looks, so stress the amount of luck that went in to it, to make sure they can weigh the odds accordingly.

Starting early or late isn't really much of a decision, the longer you wait the more knowledge you have, so the bigger the chance that you will succeed the first time, but by then the people that started earlier will have failed once already and will have learned from that as well. It works out about even.

Being a 'domain expert' is limiting your business to something very small right away, better to be general and to know how to procure the services of domain experts!

You know you have a 'right idea' when it starts moving under its own power, instead of you having to push it.

Finding investors is for a very lucky few, better concentrate on realistic scenarios for bootstrapping.

Possible additions to your list:

\- the value of networking

\- keep your fixed costs DOWN! (even today I still do this)

\- make a nest egg as soon as you can afford it

\- live healthy, running a startup is like top sport

</comment><comment><USER13> What's the first step to getting started?

(or in other words, "Just start building something")

</comment><comment><USER14> As a current college student, I'd recommend they try their hand at starting a student organization that does something entreprenurial (a microfinance organization, or a group providing tech services to the poor, for example). I suppose I don't have the experience to compare it to launching a startup, but from what I've understood about startups there are a lot of similarities:

\- You are the one in charge, you have to make stuff happen

\- You have to figure out where money is going to come from and how to make it last (if you don't have a legitimate budget sheet you're doing it wrong)

\- You have to think about recruitment and retention of members (hard when payment is not an option)

\- You have to manage and motivate people

\- You have to set goals, develop a vision, and convey that to your members

\- You have to find organizations who can help you, and learn how to form mutually beneficial partnerships

\- You face hard times and good times, but have to keep going regardless

\- You learn your strengths and weaknesses as a leader (good for knowing what to look for in a co-founder)

\- If you are really passionate about what you're doing, you'll learn what it's like to really devote yourself to an organization

\- Somewhat trivially, you'll need to learn how to handle lots of emails, personal contacts, and competing time commitments.

The nice thing is that the cost of failure is pretty much 0 in a student organization. If it doesn't work, no one will really care that much. But if it does, you've made a mark on your university and probably learned a lot in the process.

<comment><USER15> THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

Saying that doing a student organisation is a nice thing because it's cost of failure is 0, is not a very good logic.

In fact, it is the risk factor that mostly forces us to go above and beyond when everyone else is giving up. Persistence is the key, and a good way of achieving that could having limited high risk, so that you don't quit during tough times.

Sooner or later, there comes a point, when you have to make a lot of tough decisions, which mostly comes down to giving up versus fighting and finding your way out somehow.

Oh, and I totally agree that you probably should try and keep your actual money investment close to 0, and maximise your time investment. But, I also think you can build a business with minimum money involved, and by that I mean less than 500 bucks.

I am assuming a tech startup, where the main investment required is your time and code, and you can at least get a "proof of concept" working...which can be used to raise money and/or make sure it is the right idea.

Last, but not the least, if you know you are going to do a startup, or are at least curious if you can do it, you owe it to yourself to see it through. To go ahead and build it, or at least fail trying to build it.

The biggest upside to this startegy is that you only "learn" doing a student organisation. Whereas you actually succeed building a startup.

I don't intend to be rude, but this kind of sounds like you want to do a college degree right after high school, and you are confused, and you decide to go do a assosciate degree or something, to get the "feel" of a real college degree.

I repeat. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

<comment><USER14> Right, they are not the same thing: they do share similarities, however. I must not have made my point clearly. My own experience has to do with starting a group that has a non-trivial operating budget (O(10k), decent for a student org), customers, technology that we developed for our projects, and funded by grants for which we are required to show demonstrable progress. There are a few groups like this at my university, so I figure it is a relatively common setup. We actually considered launching it as a for-profit business, but realized none of us had the time to get fully behind that. When I say cost of failure is 0, I mean to say you're not going to be out a substantial amount of your own investment if things go bad. And you are still working towards something you consider valuable (a degree) during the whole process, so it's not a total waste of time. But there are certainly social costs for just walking away from something you start, especially if you make a big deal out it to begin with.

I understand what you're getting at -- they are not the same thing. But I do think that some of the leadership aspects are similar, insofar as starting any organization (student, startup, community, or otherwise) requires certain common skills. If you can't/don't want to drop your studies to go do your Startup, then this might be a means to exercise a similar skill (sub)set in the meantime.

<comment><USER16> I have done something similar and I share your viewpoint, it is not a replacement for a real company in real economic circumstances but I did need to develop a lot of skills that I wouldn't have learned in classrooms.

I'm still in college though so I can't tell you how beneficial these skills will be when I either startup or enter the workforce.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER17> You might want to talk about the different styles of businesses (lifestyle business, owner-operator, founder/starup, franchise, hell, you can through MLM/network marketing in there if you want).

A lot of times people have an idea in their head of 'this is what a "business" is'. Showcasing the alternative styles of business might bring more students to realize that starting a business can fit their goals even better than they imagined.

</comment><comment><USER18> > Why start your own business? Why start early?

I start because I have an undeniable urge. I start early (now) because I want to be able to harness this urge while it's still here, and while the opportunity still exists.

> How do you know if you have the right Idea?

Test your idea by getting it out asap. That's the only way. Anything else would just be guessing.

> Why it will be the hardest thing you will ever do?

Maybe not giving up?

</comment><comment><USER19> Why start early? Early is probably the best time in your life to do it.

</comment><comment><USER20> I actually just had a discussion with a group of students and advisors from the UofM center for entrepreneurship Friday. I think the 3 take-away points from my speech were:

1\. You know you want to be an entrepreneur when you don't feel right doing anything else. This life is too short to spend it doing something you hate.

2\. Be Flexible. Be passionate. But don't let your passion get in the way of your flexibility. We're all attached to our ideas. But sometimes you have to be open to the possibility that no one wants what you want them to want.

3\. (this is the single most important piece of advise I could give anyone, no matter what they decide they want to do with their life) Learn how to tell a story. If you can become a great storyteller, you can succeed in whatever it is you decide to do with your life.

</comment><comment><USER21> Cash flow is king.

People always talk about 'cash is king', but more importantly...'cash flow' is really king.

If you get them to focus on generating cash flow early, then from there you can lead into getting a prototype/lean product into early customer's hands early.

You can be 'profitable' and still go bankrupt.

</comment><comment><USER22> \- Don't be afraid to seek out resources at your school (alumni, entrepreneurship programs, professors, fellow students, etc.)

\- Don't spend too much time planning; think through some basics, then build a prototype, and launch it. From then on it's all about listening to your users and iterating. I think this is tough for college students, who are used to overanalyzing things, and not used to just doing things.

\- Don't waste away your college years over a start-up. It's great to start a company in school. But college is a one-shot opportunity. Don't forget that.

</comment><comment><USER23> The single most important thing I'd tell new college graduates is to not buy a new car. Time and time again I've seen so many people acquire moderately paying entry level employment and then immediately go and yoke themselves to a huge debt that will deeply affect their finances for the next several years. Better to go without a car for a while, if practical, and then buy used. If possible pay cash, but in any event avoid anything that takes more than a year or so to pay off if you have to borrow money.

</comment><comment><USER24> A cardboard box makes for a good table.

</comment><comment><USER25> So much good advice that's high-level so here's a real simple one...

Trim your nails.

</comment><comment><USER26> \- Why start your own business? Why start early? So that you won't have to work some stupid boss and complain all for the rest of your life. We all make mistake along the way. Better to learn from any mistakes early.

\- How to be a domain expert? Got to love the subject, and be really really really good at it.

\- How do you know if you have the right Idea? There is not right idea, just a solution to solve a problem.

\- Why it will be the hardest thing you will ever do? f!

\- How do you bootstrap? Try to be a bit creative here alright.

\- How do you find investors? See above.

</comment><comment><USER27> Although it doesn't address your questions directly, this talk about making money online by David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founder of 37Signals and creator of Ruby on Rails, makes quite a lot of sense when you're juggling around all the thoughts about becoming an entrepeneur. [http://37signals.com/svn/posts/981-the-secret-to-making- mone...](http://37signals.com/svn/posts/981-the-secret-to-making-money-online) Enjoy. Take care, Karl

</comment><comment><USER28> From all I've seen, I would bring home these points:

1) Have a full-time job and do the startup on the side until you're simply not able to anymore.

2) Read, read, read about modern successes and failures. Studying management of the 80s doesn't make you a good manager - it makes you a historian. Find people you look up to, and learn what you don't want to do.

3) Don't make a copy of something until you've tried to fix what you don't like of the original.

</comment><comment><USER29> \- Why start your own business? Why start early? Have you seen the job market? Most of the job offers you will get (if they get any) will be low pay and low responsibility, essentially digging yourself a hole at the beginning of your careers. Even if unsuccessful, starting your own business builds experience and skills making yourself more marketable in a few years when the job market is better.

</comment><comment><USER30> I will advise students to first get some experience at either at a big company or well funded startup. Work for a couple of years and then do your own thing. Right after college, one is usually full of hypotheses and an unreal model of real world. Best way to test all those hypotheses and get a good understanding of how outside-college world works is to work at some other company.

</comment><comment><USER31> Get Organized: I found that in college you can get away with being un- organized, with a business you really can't. Dropbox, Google Docs, Zoho, various Chrome extensions, and other Task MGMT software have saved my life.

Workout in the morning:I found this is a great way to start the day, make time to workout regardless. Morning if you can

</comment><comment><USER32> Those are great topics, and I would add: "Choosing your team wisely".

A former college entrepreneur myself, it was easy in the early stages to ignore "feelings" that our founding team didn't mesh well, but as the company grew in size and responsibility, those initial feelings became show stoppers.

</comment><comment><USER33> Just because it was the hardest thing you ever did doesn't mean starting a business has to be the hardest thing every student's done. Plenty of businesses have grown out of hobby sites set up in the spare time by college students.

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> "Don't be afraid to take an old school concept and reenergize it. Modern methods are essential to success" via @MassachusettsRealtor

</comment><comment><USER34> \- Why start your own business? Why start early?

Success takes practice. The sooner you start, the more likely you will be to end up successful in the end. I started my first .com while I was still in college. Start it because it's a learning experience. It's a way to test yourself against a larger pool of competitors. It'll make you stronger and better able to empathize with future bosses if you don't succeed right away. It'll help you be a better person, more persuasive and help you understand the world better.

\- How to be a domain expert?

Do it for 10,000 hours according to Gladwell.

\- How do you know if you have the right Idea?

The market pays you money for it.

\- Why it will be the hardest thing you will ever do?

It's not the hardest thing you'll ever do. Not by a long shot. Well, it may be. It's not the hardest thing I've ever done. But maybe I'm not working hard enough. Really it's about finding balance in your life and being happy. Setting your own path. Finding your own success and reaping more of what you sow.

\- How do you bootstrap?

Get a good job for a couple years. It'll give you valuable experience and maybe help you find your right idea. Save EVERY penny you can. Get a cheap car or better yet take public transit. Live close to work and walk. Get a cheap apartment. Cook at home. Take your lunch to work. Save up 2 years of living experiences. Then quit and move back home. Code in your basement.

Do consulting on the side. Pick up projects from the internet. Work with friends. Tell everyone you know that you are trying to do something great and they'll give you work or help you find it or refer you. People will admire you for trying your hardest and trying to achieve something on your own. They'll live vicariously through your success and feel good for helping you create it.

\- How do you find investors?

Network. Build a good product and they'll find you. You'll start getting calls from VCs. When that happens contact the ones you want. Try thefunded.com for an introduction. Look for angel lists. There's one floating around here.

Don't start looking for VC until you are 18 months into your 2 year runway. That'll give you 6 months. If it doesn't work, you still have something that may be generating some side money for you if you are not making enough money to live -- that's where you want to strive to get. Don't expect to make millions, you'll be discouraged. If you do, great! But don't set your pass/fail lines at the same level of the startups you read about on TC or here.

General advice:

It will take way longer than you imagine. A large part of success is proving your commitment to a great idea to the world by dedicating your life to it. Don't spend money on PR firms, corporations, big contracts, or to demo your product. Get incorporated when you get a customer. Don't spend a lot, go to legalzoom or fill out the paperwork on your own.

Don't be burdened by all the legal stuff. You can get your ducks in a row if a big deal comes along or investors want a piece. Worrying about the hurdles will only slow you down.

Use cloud computing providers. Don't buy servers and infrastructure. Host for as cheap as you can, then move if you or your users feel sluggish responses from your app.

</comment><comment><USER35> 1\. Don't mess around, just do it.

2\. Aim high

</comment><comment><USER36> Read Paul Graham's essays.

</comment><comment><USER37> My nr 1 advice: don't forget to make money.

</comment><comment><USER38> Finish school.

</comment><comment><USER39> Hardest thing in my opinion: perseverance. There are going to be ups and downs with starting and running a business. I don't know if anyone really started with the "right idea" -- but as you persevere and keep going ideas evolve and things will hopefully work out in your [business's] favor.</comment>


Say 'Hi' to Nybble, an open-source robotic kitten - <AUTHOR> https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/29/say-hi-to-nybble-an-open-source-robotic-kitten/ <comment><AUTHOR> I remember seeing OpenCat originally, and this is pretty interesting to me. I'd probably want to know what sort of software they will be able to include out of the box. I probably don't have time (or spare money) to get yet another experimental robotics platform... but it'd be pretty fun to have a robotic cat.

Sadly, I'm allergic to the real ones.</comment>


Facebook f8 Livestream - <AUTHOR> http://www.facebook.com/f8?sk=app_283743208319386

<comment><USER2> Can you imagine Steve Jobs doing a comedy skit at the beginning of a keynote? This is just painful to watch. "errbbody's hands go up!"</comment>


Show HN: Open Source DIY Electronic Derailleur - <AUTHOR>

I recently got into cycling and got interested in tracking my performance to improve my ride. I couldn't find an affordable bike computer that I could easily modify so I built my own. One thing lead to another and I found myself building an electronic derailleur. I thought others might be interested in doing the same so I wrote an instructable. Love to know what you think. If you like it please vote.
http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Electronic-Derailleur/?ALLSTEPS
The Arduino sketch, schematics, Fritzing diagram, bill of materials and CAD diagrams can be found on the project page http://nabilt.github.com/diy_eshift/.
The next version will include GPS, accelerometer, altitude sensor and more http://www.nabiltewolde.com/2011/11/bike-computer-v01-build.html <comment><USER2> Clickable link: [http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Electronic- Derailleur/?A...](http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Electronic- Derailleur/?ALLSTEPS)</comment>


What Product Managers can learn from playing StarCraft - <AUTHOR> https://medium.com/what-product-managers-can-learn-from/7e1fa195f14e

<comment><AUTHOR> Anyone of you playing? Which region/league?</comment>


Ask HN: Who is the most secure domain registrar? - <AUTHOR>

Following up on the recent story of the $50,000 twitter handle being lost (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7141532) I have been attempting to figure out which registrar offers the best security (e.g. multi-factor authentication) among the registrars that have solid business practices. Who do you recommend as the most secure domain registrar? <comment><USER2> Name.com has a version of MFA they rolled out about a year ago:

[http://www.name.com/blog/general/security/2012/12/our-vp- of-...](http://www.name.com/blog/general/security/2012/12/our-vp-of-awesome- explains-namesafe-the-free-and-easy-way-to-protect-your-domains/)</comment>


How can you launch a Kickstarter for an Android reader for $10k? - <AUTHOR> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/479880611/e-pad-the-e-ink-android-tablet <comment><AUTHOR> This apparently worthy Kickstarter is a 10.3" E-ink tablet that's also a functioning Android that also has a drawing surface that also has software to handle annotations and sketches.

I wish this project the best. I will probably purchase one when they become widely available. But I literally cannot imagine how you could launch this for $10K even if the thing were available in close to final form on Alibaba. Just the paperwork, let alone QA, marketing, and software integration and testing, would seem to cost far more than $10,000.

What am I missing? Because if this is credible I would be thrilled to take a product of this caliber to market myself; I could come up with the $10K on my own and not risk others' money.

Not trying to be facetious, nor am I trying to divert a nickel from the Kickstarter. I honestly want to know how to launch an Android of any kind, much less with this kind of hardware interface, for ten thousand bucks.

<comment><USER2> A surprising amount of Kickstarters are already funded, or at least, partly funded before starting their crowdfunding. I know of one case first hand that had secured X amount of funding based on the ability to secure Y amount of crowdfunding. So, very possibly that's the case here. Some investors see it as a way to prove there's at least some market for the product.

<comment><AUTHOR> D'oh! It's massive free PR. Thank you.</comment></comment></comment>


Why did the 1982-era MCZ 2/60 desktop computer have an Exxon logo on it? - <AUTHOR> https://twitter.com/kenshirriff/status/1248739154587840513 <comment><USER2> The early 1980s were the heyday of management consultants peddling wild diversification strategies to stodgy companies. Other examples: \- Owens- Illinois (glass bottles; no growth) was told to buy nursing homes (people get older; lots of growth). It did so, only to bail out years later \- Kao (Japanese detergent maker) tried expanding into floppy discs. Didn't work out.

All these moves were based on a child-like belief that getting any aging company and its management into a growing business was more important than having the culture, talent, processes, etc. to work well in that industry. Call it a stock-picker's mentality.

This context helps explain why stock buybacks have become such a big thing now. When companies have more cash flow than they can profitably use in their core business, they no longer are as eager to diversify into fast-growth, cash-hungry businesses that need funding. BigCo managers now know their limits.

So they give the money back to shareholders instead. And investors can insta- swap into supposedly "better" industries, where fully formed management teams and business processes are ready to roll.

We can argue about whether multi-billion-dollar buybacks are a good thing for society or not. But we got here for a reason.

</comment><comment><USER3> Ha. My dad was VP engineering at Vydec for a while. I worked there for a summer, and used the Vydec to write a Pascal course (which I taught there). It had a great vector display, nice keyboard. It had 8" floppy disks. I think they were selling for $10k. I remember seeing my first sealed 20Mb "Winchester" hard drive there, which would be incorporated soon. Nicely designed, advanced word processors for their time. Dad told me about the time he met with Francis Ford Coppola who wanted to buy a bunch for Apocalypse Now. Exxon Information Systems bought them around then, and there was a management bloodbath. My dad initially got more responsibility as his bosses got the axe, but he saw the writing on the wall and left for DEC. Wang soon destroyed them in the market.

<comment><USER4> _Wang soon destroyed them in the market_

"Wang" sets off a lot of old memories for me.

A Wang was the first proper terminal I ever used. It was at a chemical company, and interfaced to a minicomputer that contained all of the safety information for the chemicals the company produced.

One of my responsibilities was printing labels for one-off sample drums of chemicals that went out to potential customers.

I'd use the Wang to key in the information about what was in the drum, and the minicomputer drove this incredible laser printer. It was about the size of a pizza oven, and could print the drum labels so fast that they were actually tractor feed. It's the only tractor feed laser printer I've ever seen.

The label stock was awesome. Big, long stickers about the size of a flat- screen TV with hazardous materials symbols on one end.

I also used the Wang to update the various Material Safety Data Sheets binders that were distributed around the campus. But that was much less fun.

</comment></comment><comment><USER5> Some detail on the time period when Exxon owned Zilog: [https://mondaynote.com/50-years-intech-part-4-the-exxon- delu...](https://mondaynote.com/50-years-intech-part-4-the-exxon- delusion-d92ada84f6e)

<comment><USER6> Love those vector-display word processors. [https://www.museebolo.ch/operation-sauvetage-dun- vydec-800-t...](https://www.museebolo.ch/operation-sauvetage-dun- vydec-800-titre-provisoire/)

<comment><USER7> That's not a vector display.

<comment><USER8> Strangely enough, the Vydec Exxon word processor did have a vector display. See the datasheet for instance. The patent has tons of information on the circuitry. They made italics by shifting the vectors and small characters by scaling the vectors.

[http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/userdata/files/data- sheet...](http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/userdata/files/data-sheet- vydec-1800.pdf) [https://patents.google.com/patent/US4310840A](https://patents.google.com/patent/US4310840A)

<comment><USER6> I'd love to see a dump of the font geometry...

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> It's important to point out that Exxon was the original investor of Zilog from the beginning, giving Zilog the fund needed to start the company. This includes building Zilog's own semiconductor fab to manufacture the chip, costed several millions of dollars, which was the standard practice in the 1970s - fabless wasn't really a thing until the early 90s. "Oil money", a hot topic debated today, was the norm.

> Federico Faggin (who designed the Intel 8080, founded Zilog and designed the > Z80) said: When I joined -- when Zilog was formed -- by the way, Ralph and > his wife set up the original office in State Street in downtown Los Altos, > so I already had an office and a desk when I arrived at Zilog. Of course, > Zilog in those days was not called Zilog yet. And then we had an interview > with a reporter from the Electronic News, which was a weekly newspaper in > the electronics field, was very well-known. And this reporter reported that > there was this company that had been formed with Faggin, Ungermann, and they > were going to be some kind of microprocessor company. And that caught the > eye of Exxon Enterprises. Exxon Enterprises in those days was a subsidiary > of Exxon Corporation, the oil company. And they were making venture capital > investments in the R&D information technology. So somebody called me up from > Exxon and wanted to visit.

> [...] Yeah, it isn't that I didn't intend to build a fab. I didn't believe > that we could possibly get the money to build the fab. You know, even if in > those days fabs were not very expensive, it would still take several million > dollars for the equipment, whereas now, of course, it's several billion. But > in those days with the three-four million of equipment, you can actually > build a small fab. So I didn't think we could get the money. But then after > the success of the Z80, Ralph and I were able to convince Exxon Enterprises > to actually fund a fab. Also it was absolutely essential if we had a second > sourcing arrangement with Mostek as we did, that we were independent in > manufacturing in order to survive as a company. So it was an imperative to > have a fab at that point.

The interview by Computer History Museum is extremely interesting (as always) and worth reading.

* Zilog Oral History Panel on the Founding of the Company and the Development of the Z80 Microprocessor

[http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/text/Oral_Histo...](http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/text/Oral_History/Zilog_Z80/102658073.05.01.pdf)

</comment><comment> cbm-vic-20 That also looks like a rebranded DEC VT-100 terminal.

<comment><USER5> I think it's actually a rebranded C-ITOH CIT-101. [https://terminals- wiki.org/wiki/images/8/86/C._Itoh_CIT-101_...](https://terminals- wiki.org/wiki/images/8/86/C._Itoh_CIT-101_281787244079-1.jpg)

<comment><USER6> I wonder if the hardware inside the case is equally similar.

<comment><USER5> I believe these were something like the Kaypro, where there was no onboard graphics...just a serial console. So, no reason to change it, other than maybe some tweaks to the ROM for branding in the admin interface and boot-up.

<comment><USER6> Sorry. I meant in relation to the vt100 - it was a very expandable machine that served as the chassis for some stand-alone desktop computers sold by DEC.

<comment><USER5> Ah, got it.

Here's some pictures of the guts of the CIT-101. [https://m.imgur.com/a/fClBw](https://m.imgur.com/a/fClBw)</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment>


Ask HN: Work from home (WFH) setup - <AUTHOR> I have seen stories like these - Productivity boost of working from home (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17045308) multiple times recently. However, my experience was quite contrary. I worked from home for almost 1.5 years and it was full of ups and downs, mostly downs. Multiple distractions (kids [3yr and 8yr], wife, guests, network disruptions, etc) along with home office setup issues (chair, workstation, monitor height, etc) were always nagging every week.<p>However, every case is unique and mine was very specific to me. So, wanted to ask those for whom WFH eventually worked out, what is your setup? Chair, desk, monitor, IP phone, headphone, "do not enter" boards, other hardware setup? Timings, schedule, kanban, scrum, GTD, meditation, long walks, other discipline rules? Any tips/tricks which boosted your productivity? <comment><USER2> I'm guessing my opinion isn't going to be popular, but you can train your children not to bother you. This requires participation from your spouse/partner.

I've worked from home for four years now. We have a 6-year-old. And she has been taught not to bother daddy when the office door is closed.

If she comes up to bring me food, she is quiet coming in, and quiet going out.

As far as network interruptions, I have two Internet connections coming into the house, and my router fails over when the primary connection goes down.

Every single last issue you mentioned is solvable. If you're going to work from home long-term, then buy equipment that works for you.

In my case, I have a desk that raises and lowers, and my display is mounted on a VESA arm so that I can alternate between sitting and walking (I have a treadmill as well. You need to keep healthy!)

<comment><USER3> " but you can train your children not to bother you"

It really depends on the age, I'm struggling to get my child to poop in the toilet, I'm not sure he's ready to learn not to barge into the office when he knows his dad is in there.

<comment><USER4> You can also supplement training with physical barriers as necessary. :)

<comment><USER3> My son is in daycare most of the time, so it's not a large problem. But the few times he's been home while I have been working, the major issue with closing the door is he knows I'm still in here. So he'll make a bunch of noise, yelling for me to help him. It's often easier to just fix his Duplo/juice box/etc issue.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> Been working from home for 10+ years.

OFFICE

I have a full dedicated bedroom setup specifically as my office. While there have been a few issues with boundaries, having that physically separate space mostly solves that. It helps that it's on the second floor and away from the 1st floor with the traffic of kids and family in and out constantly.

My desk it setup facing towards the windows (no glare). I have a ceiling fan and a dedicated air conditioner so it's always a comfortable temperature.

DESK SETUP

I use a 55" Curved 4K TV as a monitor along with a standing desk. The center of the TV is ~3ft from my nose.

4k -> It's like a grid of 9 laptop screens. I use Divvy as a window manager and have it split into multiple sub-screens. Typically my setup is to have my code editor in the center and then array around that with terminals, documentation, previews, chat apps, etc.

My goal is try and cut out alt-tabbing and context switching as much as possible: use live reload, auto running tests, dedicated virtual desktop per project.

Curved -> The curve helps quite a bit with the larger size and using it as a monitor. I upgraded from a flat 42" 4k and that was close to the corners being too far away to be usable.

Standing Desk -> I'm a weirdo and just stand all the time, the desk doesn't even move. I use a thick standing mat and sometimes a balance board. Also, the combination of 4k + Standing is great b/c you can lean as needed.

NETWORK CONNECTIVITY

I've got an unremarkable (and relatively) quite slow residential cable internet package. The few times there has been an issue, I've tethered to my phone as backup so I could stay online.

Hope this helps.

<comment><USER6> What model of TV is that? I've been looking at going to a larger 4k screen for a similar reason, but am wary of the increased input lag all TV's seem to have (the dreaded molasses feel of the cursor).

Would love to find a screen around 43" or so without the lag.

<comment><USER5> It's the Samsung non HDR 4k Curved.

In general, with 4k TVs you can tweak the settings so they work as a monitor. Another commenter mentioned 'game mode', but all the different manufacturers call it something else.

Normally the things I change the most are turning "sharpness" all the way down, turn off smoothing and change the color balance to not be so blue.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> I've worked from "home" for over a decade now. I live in a van. I travel. I have a normal 9-5 type office job. I normally only travel on weekends, and spend the week wherever I happen to be that week. My internet is Verizon Wireless (LTE most of the time, but sometimes 3G). I do devops work (mostly ops/security).

90% of the time I'm out on National Forest or BLM public lands.

I work from a MacBook Pro. I do have an external keyboard (a MS Surface ergonomic bluetooth). My electricity comes from solar panels.

I've been working and traveling this way for ~ 8 years now.

It's a very, very different lifestyle than the rest of you, but it works out quite well for me.

So I would disagree that you need a $900 chair, I've spent about that building out my entire house(not including the price of my van).

I do take breaks often, to stand up, stretch, etc.

<comment><USER8> I've been thinking about something like this myself and I'm curious what you eat and where you shower? Is it always cold food or takeout and does that not get tiring or do you have some kind of stove setup?

<comment><USER7> I have a fridge and stove, I eat whatever I want :)

I'm normally out on public lands, the closest towns are usually at least an hour's drive one way. I generally stay out 2 weeks before returning to town to grocery shop, errands and the like.

<comment><USER8> Sweet setup! What's the make of the van?

<comment><USER7> Just a normal cargo van. I added all the "house" stuff :)

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> I've been working from home for over 6 years, with young kids and a stay-at- home-wife the entire time. I wouldn't have it any other way.

1) You need a good chair. No, a _good_ one. If it's not at least $500 new, then it's not something to consider. I picked up a used Aeron chair for $350 (drove 90 minutes to get it), which goes for $900. Unless you are doing a standing desk thing (which I wouldn't at first unless you are already someone who does that), then you need a chair that will let you sit for a while and not feel a thing. It's the most comfortable chair in my whole house, because it needs to be. No other one gets used 40+ hours a week.

2) You need an office. You can't work from the kitchen table or the couch or your bed. The office doesn't need to be a den or bedroom, but it needs to be dedicated and ideally somewhere you can be undisturbed. Honestly, your kids shouldn't be allowed near it, even when you aren't working.

2) You need to keep set hours, and you need your family to respect them. This is a job. You aren't on vacation or fooling around. Do work at work times, and home at home times. You'll find you can blend them once you get the hang of it, but you shouldn't let work bleed too much into home time, and you can't let home intrude onto work when you aren't in a place to accept it. Ideally these set hours should match the rest of your team, or at least heavily overlap. In the end you need clear "work time" and "home time", like everyone else gets, except you don't have to commute in between.

3) Family buy-in: your family needs to understand that you need to be professional and are NOT available whenever is convenient for them.

4) Environment: I don't think any specific desk will help you more than others, but you shouldn't be sharing it with the kid's homework or your wife's projects or anything like that. It should be work only, and either be clean and empty, or have work stuff on it. In terms of other equipment, that's very specific to you and your needs. Of course, I've really only had a single network outage in that entire time.

5) Sometimes working from home is awful for you, and you shouldn't do it. It's not for everyone.

</comment><comment><USER10> I've worked from home for about a year and half now, so I'm not as much of an expert as others in this thread. However, I do have the experience of doing it completely wrong when I first started.

What not to do:

\- Don't 'rough it'. Creature comforts are absolutely key. Get yourself a comfortable chair and the biggest, coolest, sturdiest desk that you can fit in your house.

\- Don't interact with anybody in the real world while you're at work. When you're working, you're not at home. If you have a parter, you need to get buy- in ahead of time.

\- Don't work without backup internet. A hotspot works. Ideally, it should fail over automatically. This is very easy to set up with UniFi equipment, which you should use anyway, especially if you're relying on wireless. Keep in mind that three nines of availability still means 10 minutes of downtime per week, and you can be assured that those minutes will be during your next company-wide presentation.

\- Lastly, don't do this on the cheap. Recognize that you'll need to spend money on the right tools (see above) and don't forget a quality monitor, webcam, and microphone.

Working from home means that you don't get to blame management for having an uncomfortable chair, shoddy WiFi, or a slow computer. Recognize that maintaining a functional office is now your responsibility, and failing to do so only reflects poorly on you as an employee.

On the flipside-- Doing it well gives you superhuman productivity in the eyes of your coworkers. Plus, no commute.

</comment><comment><USER3> People have the equipment thing down, and the separate office thing has been mentioned already so I'll try to add something new.

Open up your /etc/hosts file, think of EVERY website that's not work-related that you visit regularly. And redirect it to 127.0.0.1.

Once you get working, you'll forget its there... but especially if you use this computer for non-work things, it can be hard to get the engine started.

Another thing, I dual boot my computer. Windows for fun, linux for work.

<comment><USER11> >Windows for fun, linux for work.

That is horrifying backwards :) I'm forced into the opposite scenario with my job.

<comment><USER3> I'd never have to go into Windows if my VR games worked on Linux :D

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> I worked from home very briefly (less than three months) while I was a full- time university student and was sharing a room with another student.

My setup was basically a "scavenged" setup: I carved four holes in the middle of a single-person ANEBODA ikea wardrobe in order to lower the upper shelf to a desk-like height. This way I had what could be called an "office in a closet" setup.

In there i put a 18" monitor and my thinkpad X220. I used the wardrobe doors for post-it, calendars and todo lists.

Frankly, it worked quite well. Consider a similar setup if you're tight on either budget or space (or both).

Also, a nice thing about that setup is that you can close the door and you don't see your "office"anymore".

</comment><comment><USER13> I more or less have ONLY worked from home for my entire work career, so my experience might be different than most.

Like many of the commenters here I think the following are key:

#Creating Time for Work (work hours)

\- This could mean setting hours for yourself, closing a door, getting yourself in a certain mindset. Setting clear expectations for others in your life that you are 'mentally' at work even if you are physically present, this is ESSENTIAL.

#Creating Space for Work

\- I've worked at home through remodels, nannys, and guests. If you have a one room apartment, and a few kids, working from home is likely impossible. However, if you have at least two rooms with some separation of space. You can close a door, go to a coffee shop, or generally find somewhere where you won't be distracted.

#Creating time and space for NOT WORK

\- This is probably more of a challenge for startup founders and work-a-holics but if you don't. You will not be productive. period.

#The ability to focus and prioritize work

\- I am blessed with the ability to block out distractions when I am at home, and be very focused on what is going on, on my computer. I have no idea how to describe this to others, but I can often miss comments from my wife, text messages, etc when focused on a task.

#Some basic nuts and bolts:

\- You need good internet \- You need backup internet (I have both a Verizon hotspot, and LTE on my iphone) \- You need an employer and coworkers who understands that working remotely requires a vastly different set of communication protocols than working in an office.

</comment><comment><USER14> Have been happily working mostly from home for over a decade.

I think three things are really important: \- have a separate comfortable working environment \- have a routine \- no kids

I don't think it matters what equipment you use as long as you like it and you yourself can separate when you are "in the office" and when not. I have a separate room, but separate computers worked for me too.

Routine usually requires some experimentation and negotiation with your company and your family, but once you find something that works, make it a routine.

Kids is a short-hand for consistent presence of difficult to control and to remove interruptions. Some of it can be ameliorated with a noise cancelling headset, but they tend to become uncomfortable before end of workday so are really only something to get you through occasional interruptions (like neighbour drilling or work on the street).

</comment><comment><USER15> I'll offer a slightly different take--

I've worked from home full-time for about 1.5 years, coming from the standard open floor-plan tech company office. I live in a 1 bedroom apartment in the city so I don't have a dedicated office. Instead I work from my desk in the living room, the couch in the living room, a makeshift standing desk in the living room, or the coffee shop around the corner.

My quality of work and productivity is as good or better and I work less hours than before. You don't need an elaborate home office or expensive furniture, just a good work ethic.

</comment><comment><USER16> One thing: if you have trouble "enforcing boundaries" (the psyc kind) then take steps to insert some kind of physical interposing barrier between you and your potential boundary-invaders. I've always had a separate building from the house to work in and find that invaluable. Outbuilding, heated shed, that sort of thing. In the past few years I've used an office 10 miles from my house (but close to my kids' school) that has no other people in it. Not sure if that still counts as WFH though.. Basically other people have to go out into the rain, or get in their car to interrupt you..

You definitely want to reduce cognitive load : avoid having to walk past the unfolded laundry or your distraction du jour, to get coffee, snacks -- have those things in your office space.

I find music very helpful for concentration. I switch between speakers and headphones during the day. Not sure why really but the change seems to keep concentration going. Invest in some decent sound equipment.

I have found that the right headset make a big difference for participating in conference calls (or whatever we're calling them now "formerly known as hangout?"). I settled on a Sennheiser model : PC-36 that has integrated USB so avoids the crappy analog ports on the PC. Bluetooth probably works nicely now but I've become so used to the PC-36 and I have three pairs of them.

You need a reasonably decent connection to avoid voice call frustrations. Doesn't need to be super-fast, but good QoS (low packet loss, jitter). The easiest way to achieve that in a home setting is probably to just get the fastest connection available from your fastest ISP. Consider deploying your own router that can enforce traffic prioritization so your kids' Netflix traffic doesn't delay your VoIP packets. We mostly use Skype for voice, which works ok, or Google. For PSTN interface I'm using Vitelity.net and Panasonic SIP phones or the Bria desktop and mobile apps. Google Voice might be an easier option for those who don't like debugging SIP and RTP protocols ;)

I've never been too picky about chairs and desk height and all that. I do like specific keyboards (Cherry Red) and lighting (fairly dim, diffuse, and balanced such that the screen is slightly brighter than the background).

</comment><comment><USER17> It's great to work on your own, but not from your house. The ideal setup is to have a small office 10 minutes walk from home. When you're at the office, you only do work. If you find yourself being unproductive for 15 minutes, leave the office and go for a walk, or back home. That way you train your brain to associate one environment with working, and it becomes easier to avoid distractions.

</comment><comment><USER18> A pair of these: [https://www.amazon.com/Bose-QuietComfort-Acoustic- Cancelling...](https://www.amazon.com/Bose-QuietComfort-Acoustic-Cancelling- Headphones/dp/B00X9KV0HU)

...and this: [https://www.simplynoise.com/](https://www.simplynoise.com/)

Works great at the office too, or on the plane/train/etc

</comment><comment><USER19> Been 100% WFH(office is 2000 miles away) for over a year now.

Have a separate room for the office. That being said, it's adjacent to the kitchen and has no doors, so there's still traffic.

I don't think kids are a non-starter for WFH. Have one ten year-old kid. I think it's about setting and enforcing expectations in terms of "work-time" vs. "home-time".

Of course, if your family doesn't respect or support you in that, you're going to have problems no matter what. _Everyone_ (kids, spouse) needs to be involved in an honest discussion where expectations are set.

Architectural nice-to-haves:

* Doors on the office.

* Multiple floors, with the recreation room on a different floor.

* Plenty of windows for natural light

As far as equipment/hardware:

* Adjustable standing desk(love my Jarvis Bamboo)

* Good chair. I mean a _good_ chair. Herman Miller Aeron for me.

* Dual monitors mounted on arms. Amazon Warehouse has consistent deals on Dell 27 in monitors.

* I use a MBP, so I've got a vertical stand and Pluggable TB dock.

* Logitech MX Master

* KBC Poker II

* Comfy, decent headphones

What's been huge for me is the ergonomic stuff(chair/desk). It's a big expense up front, but believe me, it's worth it if you're going to spending 8-10 hours a day there. Plus it's tax deductible. Do yourself a favor a splurge there.

Overall, WFH has been a huge productivity boost to me. I make sure my employer sees the benefits of my productivity as well, and I work very hard to ensure they have no reason to be displeased with my output.

<comment><USER20> I have been wfh for 5 years and I have similar recommendations to you (jarvis bamboo, natural lighting, good noise cancelling headphones... dual monitors all that stuff). The only thing I'd add is for ergonomics. Back support when sitting -- for me the Better Back has done more than a chair can do.

[https://getbetterback.com/](https://getbetterback.com/)

I've tried a few things for sitting and they all were crap compared to this.

</comment></comment><comment><USER21> I have worked from home 3-5 days per week for the past 4 years. I think there are two keys to being effective when WFH:

1\. Minimizing distractions. Kids, significant others, television, etc. can make it extremely difficult. IMO, there are two main reasons for working at home: convenience and avoiding distractions. If you can't do the latter, it may not be worth it.

2\. Maintain a work routine similar to your office routine. Keep your normal morning routine -- shower, get dressed, eat breakfast, etc., but instead of leaving the house, go to your home work area. Set a start and end time for working and stick to it. Take breaks and lunch the same time you normally would.

As far as setting up your home office/workspace, try to re-create the elements of your office workspace that you like. If you use a dock station or large/multiple monitors at work and that's effective for you, setup a similar configuration at home.

Also, invest in a good chair. I have a La-Z-Boy office chair that I believe I paid $250-$300 and it is outstanding.

</comment><comment><USER22> Standing Desk: Just a desktop from IKEA and some pipe from Home Depot

I get memory foam bath mats and replace them approx 1-2 times per year. I also have a yoga block and lacrosse ball at my feet so I can change my stance.

I've a 48" monitor on a stand that sits perpendicular to a window so I can look out the window and change focal length while thinking

Headphones are super important to me Massdrop x HiFiMAN HE4XX I wear them even if I'm not listening to anything.

Keyboard is an ErgoDoxEZ with a mousing mode so I never have to take my hands off the keyboard

I use the Mission Control Productivity system and sometimes the Pomodoro Technique if I'm having a hard time getting into flow

in my experience residential internet isn't any less reliable than the commercial internet I had when I went into an office

A nicer microphone is a must have for remote work so that people can hear you clearly in meetings. I use a Blue Snowball

I don't have kids but, if I need to ensure my dog will be quiet for meetings I just give her a kong. My wife is just great about not interrupting me.

</comment><comment><USER23> In my last job I did 1-3 days WFH per week.

I was often laying down on my sofa, occasionally sitting at a desk. Interestingly I usually managed to cope with a small laptop screen. But to be fair I tried to schedule the time where I really needed 2 screens to be on the office days or plug it in. Never had a dedicated desk, had to make room on my personal desk. (For me development work more often needs a "proper" desk setup, whereas ops and debugging go easily even on a 12.5" screen)

Distractions.. well, mostly not - but no kids and no pets. With other people around I could tone it down to "a lot less interruptions per day than in the office", but not always zero.

And wow about the network disruptions, I've always had more of those at work than at home :P

The downs were: too lazy to cook a proper meal for myself, so usually frozen pizza or something quick. No coworkers around (I tend to work for/stay at companies where I like interacting with the people.)

The ups were: no 2x45min commute, a lot less interruptions.

</comment><comment><USER4> For distractions, my office is on the basement level, separate from everything else in the house. There is a baby gate at the top of the stairs to prevent the kids from entering. My wife is very good about not interrupting unnecessarily. Guests may come over during my workday, but the most that I will do is say hi and then go back to work.

I built a standing desk out of a solid wood door and stainless steel pipe. It is at the perfect height for my wrists to rest correctly when typing. I mostly stand on a rubber mat, but I also have a bar stool I can rest on occasionally.

I have 3 external monitors (2 wqhd and 1 1080p) as well as my laptop screen. The externals are at the perfect height. The laptop screen is a little low, so I just use it for supplemental things that I don't have to look at for long.

I've used my phone maybe 4 times in the past year, so for that I just used my cell phone. I use WebEx, HipChat Video, and Google Hangouts to videoconference with my coworkers. I use a Kingston HyperX gaming headset, which works phenomenally well.

I follow the exact same routine every day. Drop the kids off at school. Start work at 9am. Pick kids up in the middle of the day, go back to work. Sign off by 5pm.

I use GTD, implemented using a Filofax organizer, with a custom set of inserts. For me, it is essential that my task management system be paper based. It's easy to reference, and unlike phone/computer based task systems, it doesn't set me up to be interrupted/distracted. I also use a kitchen timer and the pomodoro method when I need to be most productive.

At a minimum I go on an hour long hike with my kids every evening, but I also supplement that by going to CrossFit one or two times per week. When I am able to go for multiple short walks during the day and do some meditative prayer, that's when I'm most likely to be at peak productivity.

</comment><comment><USER24> Working from home for 5+ years.

Getting up at 4:50 am, meditating 16 minutes, work till 9am, walk the dog and eat something, then continue working till 3pm or 4pm, lunch, work till 9.40pm, 16 minutes of meditation. On weekends, I work till noon usually. My spouse respects my work and the time required, there has never been an issue.

Setup: MacBook Pro (13 inch w/ TouchBar), MagicTrackpad 2, 34" curved screen, HHKB 2 Pro (white w/out prints plus a wooden wrist rest). Consuming music via Apple AirPods, speakers or Atomic Floyd Superdarts. Simple chair and desk (don't care about that).

I have no special system to get things done. Sometimes, I turn off the phones and close email clients to work w/out interruptions. When coding, external things get ignored unless my business partners call. When I don't write code, I sort things by priority and required time to complete.

</comment><comment><USER25> I work from home 1-3 days a week. I'm also father of 3 boys (2, 8, 10) and wife is working full-time.

My only setup is my ThinkPad T450s. That's all.

At some point in my carrier I used 4 monitors, specific low profile keyboards and mice at the office but I don't miss that. It took some time (years!) to adjust my workflow to a single screen and maybe I'm not as productive as I could be but I'm still among the most productive employees at my company.

What I achieved is that I'm equally productive and +/\- comfortable anywhere: at work, on the couch or office room at home, on a train, at airport, in the garden, anywhere. That consistency is more important to me than maximum efficiency.

So that and I choose what kind of tasks I work on when I'm alone or when family is at home because you can't expect to fully isolate yourself.

</comment><comment><USER26> It's all about the dedicated room for me.

[https://i.imgur.com/ehJKHJ9.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ehJKHJ9.jpg)

Aeron chair, 4k monitor, some storage. I shut the door when the kids are home, I know which cafe I'd head to if the internet goes down, but it doesn't.

</comment><comment><USER27> Hi!

Here, working remotely for six years. I think that it's all about home-office, if you have a unique space, called office all changed a lot if not is still your house and you feel like extra-hours.

For this six years, for one year I didn't have a spare bedroom for the office, and that was bad, I was working from the dining room and a lot of problems. (As you have now)

Now working from a spare bedroom-office, with nice desk, large 4K screen, a good chair, etc.. Highly recommend. Around network problems, I have two internet connections, one for failover with another company, all wired, so I don't need to worry about the wifi.

Around kids, I don't have it yet, but a lot of my friends said that it's about that they should understand that you're working, and for that, you should have an "office".

Regards

</comment><comment><USER28> You need buy in, understanding and ground rules with family members. When I'm working from home and my office door is shut, they aren't allowed to come in or bug me. It's your best way to communicate with family, no interruptions allowed mode is turned on. Being physically present but unable to engage with you is really hard for kids to understand. With some practise they will start to get it.

I've worked in a basement office before and I highly suggest you don't unless it's a full walk out with lots of large windows. The mood between being in a basement office (underground) and ground/above ground floor is very different and takes a toll long term. I personally found I would never do basement again.

</comment><comment><USER29> Working from home for past 10 years. Major thing is having dedicated room with doors that close (really important now that I have two little kids (2 months and 2 years). Older kid know that when the door are closed she can't go inside and should not knock or yell at me. I am at my office just during office hours, after the workday is over I don't go inside this room.

Other than that just boring stuff: good chair, split keyboard (MS Sculpt), gaming mouse (Logitech G603) and single 27" monitor (HP Envy). I also have a nice sofa where I can lay and read if I want to.

</comment><comment><USER30> I've been working from "home" last 2.5 years. I've tried working:

A. from home.

B. from coffee shops/public spaces.

C. at a dedicated desk at a co-working space.

D. in a private office.

This may be a personality thing, but I realized I need routine, but not rigidly so, and I need some activity happening around me. (A) and (B) were too isolated for me.

What's work best is mostly sticking with (C) with a sprinkling of (B). Problems with inconsistent internet and the fact that I'm paying for (C), keeps me in a routine and productivity high. Throw in a 3 - 4 mile walk to work with a 25lb backpack, and I get my exercise in too :)

</comment><comment><USER31> working from home for about ten years, as happy as ever (though I don't mind offices either, provided there's flexibility).

I didn't even have a proper chair and desk until some time ago, worked from bed, couch, dining table, standing, kitchen counter etc. I still do from time to time, but I wouldn't advice doing it :)

I didn't have kids for most of the period (I have a 2yo and 4yo now) and they're certainly disruptive, in my case they're not home most of the time now, so it's basically: work from nice desk and chair in the living room while kids are out, move to secluded room and close door when they're not. They definitely learn not to bother you too much, but they can still be noisy, for which a nice set of earphones might help.

If for some reason your home is expected to be too noisy one day, go work in some other place.

I have not done this for a long time, but I'd advice having a scheduled daily outing (go jogging in the morning or evening), it's good for your mind and body, and slightly more important than if you were working in an office, as you don't even have a daily walking commute.

If possible, try to separate work and home, i.e. separate "office room", to avoid the feeling of being always at work.

</comment><comment><USER32> I've been working from home (basement office) for about 4 years. I've recently concluded that in order to minimize sound-related distractions I need to finish my basement office with full-blown soundproofing.

The alternative is to impose a really onerous burden on my wife and kids to be quiet, which is particularly difficult during summer vacation.

Unfortunately the project isn't cheap. In the end I'm probably looking at $15-20k for the final result.

<comment><USER33> Has to be an easier way.Noise cancelling head phones? White noise machine? Even some sort of cheap sound dampening material applied to the ceiling etc should make a meaningful difference no?

<comment><USER32> I wish. I have much better things to do with $20k :)

To go into a little more detail:

Regarding noise-canceling headphones: \- I find them uncomfortable to wear for really long stretches \- They don't fit well when I'm wearing glasses (contact lenses aren't an option for me). \- I can't solve the problem by just wearing them _sometimes_ , because I can't guess when distracting, transient sounds will occur. \- They don't filter out low-frequency sounds enough to solve the problem.

Regarding sound-dampening materials in the floor above my office: \- Likely to help, but not sufficient. Also, we're not ready to put carpeting on that floor yet because of dust issues. (We can solve those eventually, but not quite yet.)

Regarding less extensive soundproofing in my office: \- There are just too many pathways for sound to get in currently. \- From the research I've done, it looks even a single pathway is enough to let in more sound than is acceptable.

Also worth mentioning that I've got a nasty case of A.D.D., so I probably take longer to recover from minor distractions than many others do.

<comment><USER33> That's a pickle. And what abt white noise? I know a lot of therapists use this machine[1] to maintain privacy--sort of a similar goal

[1]: [https://www.amazon.com/Marpac-Classic-White-Noise- Machine/dp...](https://www.amazon.com/Marpac-Classic-White-Noise- Machine/dp/B000KUHFGM)

<comment><USER32> White noise can mask relatively quiet transient sounds.

Sadly, my kids' sound spectra don't really fit that profile :)

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER34> have been working from home for almost 5 years. i travel 2-3 times a week for meetings so try to schedule all mtgs during those days. doesnt always work, sometimes have to travel for a half day, or do random calls throughout the day, but nowhere near as distracting as random interruptions working at an office

i track my productivity and am doing productive work ~65% of the time. i used to use pomodoro method but now sort of do extended pomodoro (45 min on, 10 min off), with 1.5 hour break midday to exercise and eat lunch

my gf lives with me but works away from home. when she gets home i either stop working or go to starbucks (small apt so not really fair for me to enforce silence / no distractions while i work)

i just have a desk and a monitor / keyboard / mouse from my old job. but ive had months long stretches working on a coffee table with just a laptop which is generally fine. just use iphone and default headphones for calls

</comment><comment><USER35> I WFH and I move around a lot, so I'm constantly re-setting up my office and trying tweaking my current location to be productive.

I need a room separate from the bedroom or other living spaces that's very quiet. This helps me separate work and life and keep me in the work zone when I'm "at work."

I'm off-limits to friends and family during work hours. I keep a strict work/life schedule. This can be truly awkward since popping in or asking for a quick favor seems like no big deal from their perspective, but is productivity destroying from mine. No kids, and I honestly don't know how anyone can have their office in the same house as children.

Comfortable ergonomics. I've stashed a few folding plastic desks(the kind you can get from wal-mart) in various locales, along with office chairs I find comfortable. I also don't hesitate to buy another $90 external display when I need one. My bluetooth keyboard comes with me since I find it's too much of an interruption to adjust to a new key layout.

Excellent headphones, non-isolating for calls. Being able to understand people in a conference room is a huge plus. I used to use pricey open-backed Grado headphones (the frequency response seemed to be well matched to voice), but I've been recently trying to use cheap earbuds from ali express that have good hifi audio recommendations and that seems to be almost as good(Monk VE at the moment).

The laptop comes with me, but my SO has been using Amazon Workspaces (a hosted workstation) which seems promising from a security and redundancy standpoint. Laptop bites it? Just dust off a backup machine and log back into the server.

2 or 3 levels of internet connection backups. I prefer to use a wired connection for my primary. I always have at least one LTE network as a secondary and usually a second on another carrier. I use google voice so if the cell network goes down I can still receive VOIP calls to my business line.

Put yourself close to your hobbies. Since you don't have to be commuting distance to the office anymore, make sure there's something you love nearby, preferably right outside your door so there's a very low barrier to entry. Surfing lunch break? Morning Hike? Afternoon cycle? There will always be WFH downsides, so set yourself up to enjoy the upsides.

Keep your people nearby. WFH is isolating, so don't isolate yourself. SO and I spend most of the year within 10 minutes of family. We're planning on spending a month near friends later this summer.

</comment><comment><USER36> A close friend has worked from home for a decade and has four kids. One routine that really works is he gets dressed for work every day. Just by adding a collared shirt, usually. Gets him in (and out of) the headspace and the kids get a clear signal that he's "working."

<comment><USER37> This. Years ago, someone here mentioned not simply rolling out of bed and starting to work. Go for coffee, walk the dog, etc. In that vein, I switch to a blue work shirt. If I'm wearing it, I'm working. It has two pockets, so I can put my phone in one if I'm on a conference call, and walk around. If I'm wearing one of the blue shirts -- I have several, all the same -- it means I'm working, whether I walk downstairs to the kitchen, step outside for a breath of fresh air, etc.

</comment></comment><comment><USER38> I WFH a couple days a week. Nice monitor, nice desk, nice chair, dedicated room that serves as my office, etc...

That being said, probably the the most important contributor to this being a productive setup is we don't have kids. Can't imagine why you'd even think that would work out.

<comment><AUTHOR> > Can't imagine why you'd even think that would work out.

It was not by choice :)

<comment><USER39> > It was not by choice :)

Kids or WFH? :P

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER40> Uses this: [https://usesthis.com](https://usesthis.com) is a cool site to check out other people's setups and see their workflows, not necessarily WFH but provides cool perspective.

</comment><comment><USER41> i don't have to worry about the distractions so much, my wife works from home now also, but we have separate offices.

barring that the one thing I would advise is trying to get out every once and a while. since I have an infinite amount of work, and cook meals, its entirely possible to spend a week without leaving the house.

I find my productivity goes down pretty drastically just sitting the in same spot day after day.

taking a 30 minute walk in the afternoon helps alot

if I get up and do something else involved, I may not get into the right mood to start working again afterwards, which is another hazard.

still working that out

</comment><comment><USER42> I can't imagine having to deal with my kid while working from home.

I think I'd say that if you have your kid around and your kid isn't a very special case, don't attempt working from home.

</comment><comment><USER43> I used to work from home for years. Recently rented a desk in a coworking place. Best decision I've ever made.

</comment><comment><USER44> chair, laptop, monitor, standing desk, headphones / mic for conference calls. my wife and son cannot be around, they're too distracting. i end up getting frustrated with them (can't you see i'm thinking?! :)

</comment><comment><USER45> I can't do it. I go to a share office.

</comment><comment><USER46> I've worked from home for the past 2 years now. The type of work I do and the amount has me busy all the time. Plus if it's something you like doing, you'll find yourself easily doing 50+ hours - especially if you work salary.

Sometimes I'd have a slightly crazy older friend come by who doesn't work a day job and he'll just come in the check on me or smoke a bowl while he runs around town. It can sometimes be a distraction when that happens. One just has to reiterate that you are at work but keep it real and _do_ have that time. Same with phone calls from family. Treat your telecommute like you're at the office just that the scenery looks like early fuck because it's your design, not someone who's paid for aesthetics of the corporate image.

First week I started my full time telecommute, I did go out and buy an Aeron chair. But while it's a nice chair and I've used them at the office, if you don't move around and work out, that chair could also be the most uncomfortable chair of your day.

I also try to leave the house at least a couple times a week for lunch but keep it short as ultimately, the clock is nobody's friend.

Once a week, I'll take some time to do a cleaning. I do all my meetings via BlueJeans or teleconference or Slack. So I make sure that my video presence is always "Business Casual" appropriate... including anything in the background of the camera.

Technology: While I am issued a laptop, I ended up using my gaming desktop more as you really cannot have enough monitors. I run 3 and could see going to 5 with 2 in portrait configuration for coding or document reading. I'd also get a comfortable mechanical keyboard. Mouse as well. I recreated a dedicated workstation within my homelab using VMWare and that is only used for the company including their VPN client. I have another access point for corporate VPN which I use fairly often. I also have a MiFi and ensure I can reach another access point that is on another ISP with my network should my primary internet go out - which it has a few times for a week. Beyond that, it's whatever makes you more productive so you can keep your work/life in balance.

And that's the crux of it, while I don't commute, I also don't have that "unplug" time in the car anymore. That's now done when I prepare the evening meal which can vary at time. The only major distraction is my whiny old cat that requires me to ensure that the mute button is in easy reach. But people are actually quite cool and understanding when they hear her meow that first couple times before you can mute. My GF I think feels that she needs to leave me alone more than she really does. But then I'm a bad person because sometimes I'll go much later than I should or spend more time working than living.

Also, when you're now spending on upwards of 16-20h at the keyboard, your sleep will be impacted. You'll also go through a phase of Bi-Modal sleep where you'll sleep in two separate periods. But my case likely isn't normal. I have no kids. Few interruptions beyond the cat and that I'm older.

Will you save money? It depends on your other spending habits.

It is good to keep a daytime schedule for the company. But you'll also find working at night or early morning is your most productive.

Not everyone's situation is suited for WFH. I would only recommend WFH for true introverts and people who work abroad. Maybe those who have kids should plan to still have daycare or do some desk sharing situation. Family interruptions are real and household emergencies will happen while you're there that may or may not work out. Don't do it all, do hire out. Use delivery services and hired help.

</comment><comment><USER47> I was hired to my current (remote) job literally the week my son was born; he and my job are both 6.5 years old. I worked from home (with headphones) until he started walking, at which point my job paid for a spot in a local coworking space. He's now in kindergarten and has a great afterschool program, so I'm mostly back at home now. My wife also works from home, and we go to a local coffeehouse a couple times a week. When my son comes home from school he plays with the other kids in the apartment and I put on my headphones.

I do all of my work in Emacs, Terminator, and browsers in Debian with OpenBox on a Thinkpad x220. I've tried multi-monitor setups but I always go back to the laptop screen. Partly this is because I work in multiple locations, but also because I prefer switching windows or workspaces to navigating among windows in a huge screen, though I do often split the screen into halves. I do much of my typing on a mechanical keyboard - a Happy Hacking Pro 2. I have a simple Ubiquiti firewall and wifi setup hooked up to basic DSL, which is the only option in our building. This works unless I need to upload something, in which case I either exercise patience or go to the coworking space or a coffeehouse. For voice comms, I can't count on apps working with Linux but there's always an app for my Android phone.

At home my physical setup is an Ikea Fredrik desk and an Aeron chair in a corner of the living room. The desk is highly configurable; initially a standing desk it's now readjusted for sitting. I don't recommend this desk unless you have short legs - an Ikea Jerker would be better for my physique - and lately I've been moving my Aeron to the kitchen table. I have a pair of Audio-Technica ATH-M50x studio headphones for when I need to focus.

I get exercise by walking my son to school, taking occasional walks, and I have a set of small weights. I get up at least once an hour to walk around the room, get a glass of water, whatever. I could definitely exercise more.

Regarding focus, I deal with this by having multiple workspaces and browsers for different tasks. Workspace 1 is personal mail/chat/news/blogs in Firefox. Workspace 2 is personal projects. Workspace 3 is work mail/Slack and GitHub Issues in Chromium. I spent most of my time in Workspace 4 with Terminator, Emacs, and Chromium. Having personal stuff several workspaces away is a mild deterrant to looking at it. If it's really distracting to I'll "pkill firefox", which removes the distraction for now; I can go back to those tabs next time I start Firefox. Certain types of music help me focus: Bach, 60s cool jazz, 1970s Steve Reich, techno and electronica, and Radiohead. I accept that my mind is going to drift sometimes. I find that I often have useful thoughts and ideas when I step away from my computer for a bit.

My setup is very basic and simple. I don't need a whole lot in order to do my work and I like that I can do my work in different places.

</comment><comment><USER48> My setup after working from home for 3 years:

OFFICE

Dedicated bedroom converted to office. Couple of shelves, my desk and a bed for the dog are the only furniture in it. I have a window next to my desk that faces our street and front door so I can tell if the knock at the door is something I actually have to answer or just a package drop-off I can ignore.

DESK SETUP

My desk is a hand crank standing desk from Multi Table ([https://www.multitable.com/product/multitable-manual-mod- tab...](https://www.multitable.com/product/multitable-manual-mod-table/)). It's the smallest size and it's perfect for me - just enough room for the essentials but not so much that the Law of Flat Surfaces kicks in and it gets cluttered with junk.

CHAIR

Steelcase Leap. I can't recommend this chair enough. Chairs are a very personal thing so you have to find what works for you but wow does it make a difference when you find the right fit. Yes, it's expensive but it should last quite a while and even if you're part standing you'll still spend lots of time in your chair. It's worth every penny.

MONITOR / COMPUTER / ETC

2016 era MBP (no touchbar or "new keyboard" which I purposely avoided even through they were available when I bought it).

Monitor is Dell UltraSharp 27" like [https://www.amazon.com/Dell- UltraSharp-27-Inch-LED-Lit-Monit...](https://www.amazon.com/Dell- UltraSharp-27-Inch-LED-Lit- Monitor/dp/B00P0EQD1Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1526054494&sr=8-2&keywords=dell+ultrasharp+u2415) mounted on an Amazon basics arm for ultimate flexibility and to free up desk space the monitor platform would otherwise occupy: [https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Premium-Single- Monitor-S...](https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Premium-Single-Monitor- Stand/dp/B00MIBN16O/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1526054545&sr=1-3&keywords=amazon+basics+monitor+arm)

I'd probably get a higher resolution monitor if buying this all today but I have 0 complaints about my current one.

My MBP sits on a simple laptop stand to bring it's monitor up to similar height as the main monitor and it's my "2nd" screen.

Keyboard is Kinesis Freestyle2 Blue to help mitigate tendonitis I developed in my wrist after using an Apple trackpad for too long (side note: if there's ever a class action around these I'm 100% in - they _can be_ absolutely evil in terms of ergonomics).

Mouse is a Kensington trackball ([https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Orbit- Trackball-Scroll-K72...](https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Orbit-Trackball- Scroll-K72337US/dp/B002OOWB3O/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1526055822&sr=1-4&keywords=kensington+trackball)), again, for ergonomic reasons.

Headset: Plantronics C720 bluetooth I can use for calls via the computer or my phone and the quality is excellent. I can't even stand using my actual phone for audio anymore when I'm away from my desk.

For mats I have two standing mats folded over that I stand on and I try to always wear some sort of supportive shoes (or sandals) when standing. I typically stand all morning until lunch and then sit for the afternoon.

There's a FitDesk under desk elliptical under the desk which I used for about a month but now I broke the habit and it's just taking up space.

NETWORK

Comcast (my only choice) residential internet - ~250mbps down and ~10 up. They refuse to give me more up no matter what plan I ask for but other than that it's pretty good. Sometimes it goes out which leads me to my backup kit which is a regular iPad (with cellular) with a Logi keyboard case on it for easier typing. In the event of a critical event and my internet going out at the same time (has happened once in 3 years) I can buy an on-demand data package and be online in a few minutes. I have to take the time to make sure the iPad can do whatever things I need it to do (have some basic text editors on it along with SSH apps and updated keys, etc) but being able to just grab the iPad and go is great (also great for taking it on trips when it's necessary for me to be available "just in case").

</comment><comment><USER49> I've done full remote work from home, and one day a week.

Starting with the one day a week: I dedicated a day a week to studying, reading, learning, growing. Anything that required a book. I had a hard time concentrating on the job so I was grateful they let me leave whenever I needed to. Also, the building was walking distance to a joint library cafe. Score!

Full work from home / remote:

I did 1 and a half years working remote for a startup where I was the only software engineer. Communication was rarely needed, sometimes giving me 5 weeks at a time on my own. I was also local to the company, so if it was ideal to come in to talk with my boss, it was easy to do. I think I came in roughly 8 days in a year and a half.

During this time I shared a room with my girl friend. Her desk was next to mine with plenty of space in between us, enough where I couldn't see her monitor without leaning over. She was quiet during work hours, but not like headphone quiet. I'm slightly ADHD so having some background music out of my speakers and/or her having background noise out of her speakers aided my concentration. Also, we kept volumes reasonable so no clashing noise/music or anything like that. Also, if I needed it for any reason, I could ask her to put headphones on.

I had room mates who pretty much lived in the living room. They had desks setup behind the couch and had background tv going on seemingly 24/7\. It was pretty great, because for lunch or if I needed a break, I could go sit out with them and watch some tv or a movie and just hang out. Likewise, they were pretty chill, so if I was in a thinking on a problem kind of la la land state they never distracted or took away from that, so I'd still get the environment without the distraction.

I lived two blocks from a cafe, three from a 7-11, 4 from a trail that would go out to a lake. And it's the SF/Bay Area, so weather is pretty nice all year around, so I could go for a walk any time I wanted.

Being at home I did have an exercise routine and a kind of neurological depression slowly kicked in. It wasn't a typical pessimistic kind of depression with a lot of woe, but more like a zombie like state where I wasn't quite aware of what was going on with slowed reflexes. It left me somewhat antisocial. I'd stare blankly at people on the street that would say hi. I ended up taking the dog out for a walk and 30 minutes of walking would clear it right up. It was weird, like walking out of a fog I wasn't aware was there until it was gone.

Was it hard or challenging? No. I excel in a work from home kind of environment. The more spacial reasoning a problem requires the harder it is for me to concentrate on it unless I'm in a place comfortable enough for me to close my eyes and feel safe. A cube doesn't do that for me. Anyone can come up and touch my shoulder or look at me or whatever. At home I can jump on my bed, close my eyes and just visualize what I need to, then jot it down. Of course, these kinds of problems are not the only kind of problems, but they're the ones I benefit from the most from being at home. I benefit from studying as well. It's easier to read a text book and concentrate on it. Also, it's way easier to unwind and fall into a diffuse mode of thinking while pondering on a problem at home or walking. I often do this while youtube is playing or while I'm surfing Reddit. The fear of looking like I'm not working keeps me from utilizing this helpful part of the mind in the work place.

Working from home does require some skills, but the bar isn't high. It comes down to organizing activities. Every day creating a new schedule is massively helpful. Also, ordering tasks that take the most concentration first in the day is super helpful, because concentration goes down as the day goes by. Organizing space is very important. Having an office helps a lot. If you do not, a clean desk and a separate login for work is a must. This compartmentalizes habits, so impulsive habits usually tied to social networks are minimized if not extinguished. You can even go as far as to block social sites on the work account, then switch over to the recreational account when it is ideal to do so.

I like it, and recommend it. Though, the bit about the kids is killer. If you can work and babysit at the same time, you've got a skill.</comment>


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