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Twitter Parody Accounts: Where Are They Now?
Remember @BronxZoosCobra?
The first presidential debate of 2012 was a landmark date in the storied history of parody Twitter accounts. No more than fifteen minutes after Mitt Romney vowed to cut off PBS despite an avowed love of Big Bird, @FiredBigBird materialized, along with almost a dozen other variations. Not long after, Jim Lehrer's inability to moderate inspired @SilentJimLehrer. Both now belong to the Twitter pantheon, along with a plethora of other news- and pop-culture-inspired feeds. Who could forget @AngiesRightLeg, or @LebronJamesEgo, or @GingrichIdeas?
Well, in the spasmodic news cycle, just about everyone, which got our social media team thinking: What becomes of parody Twitter accounts when the Zeitgeist recedes? Do they fade into retirement (thanks for the good times, @NBCDelayed) or seek a middle-aged career change (@BronxZoosCobra is covering the NFL, at last tweet)? Here are the alumni updates on a few that sat at the cool kids' table, if only for fifteen minutes.
Look what Mitt Romney has done to me... twitpic.com/b0syqt— Fired Big Bird (@FiredBigBird) October 4, 2012
Author: Anonymous 28-year-old man in Washington
Created within minutes of Romney's swipe at PBS in the first presidential debate, the account quickly garnered 40,000 sympathetic followers. The plight of Sesame Street's beloved bird was the single most-tweeted-about event of the night. Twitter suspended the account on Thursday, prompting an Internet outcry, but @BigBirdRises is continuing the fight.
...um...I...— Silent Jim Lehrer (@SilentJimLehrer) October 4, 2012
Author: Anonymous
The venerable PBS newsman and debate moderator Jim Lehrer drew fire from all sides for his inability to control the first debate between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. Nearly 10,000 people followed @silentjimlehrer within twelve hours. We anticipate a short shelf life for this one, as long as no one lets Lehrer get anywhere near a moderator's table again.
When Mitt Romney says "Mr. Chairman", do you think he's referring to me?— Invisible Obama (@InvisibleObama) August 31, 2012
Author: Ian Schafer
Clint Eastwood's inane RNC stunt — speaking to an empty chair purportedly occupied by the president — created the fastest-growing parody account in Twitter history. Registered within five minutes of Eastwood's speech, @InvisibleObama skyrocketed to 50,000 followers in just 40 minutes. Nearly a month later, it has just under 70,000 followers, and somehow managed to make the transition from instant-parody sensation to sustained Twitter personality.
On Mars every state is a red state.By which I mean communist.— SarcasticRover (@SarcasticRover) September 18, 2012
Author: Jason Filiatrault
Created by Canadian screenwriter Jason Filiatrault, the Mars Rover adopted a hipster-esque POV, tweeting that he wished he had a sweater, left a girl back home, and is now the first mayor of Mars on Foursquare. Sarcastic Rover remains active, with over 98,000 followers, and snarks on politics and science from about 54.6 million kilometers away.
Hey girl, turn off the lights and lemme close a few of your loopholes.— Paul Ryan Gosling (@PaulRyanGosling) September 28, 2012
Author: Anonymous
Whispering sweet nothings to almost 65,000 followers since August 2012 via the now-ubiquitous "Hey Girl" Ryan Gosling trope, @PaulRyanGosling was created shortly after Mitt Romney announced Paul Ryan as his running mate. The anonymous author tweets daily, with suggestions like, "Hey girl, to better enjoy the debate, put it on mute."
Three marriages only weigh as much as one on the moon.— Newt Gingrich Ideas (@GingrichIdeas) January 26, 2012
Author: @kept_simple
The resurrection of Newt Gingrich in the GOP primaries prompted the creation of the gold standard for political parody accounts. Inspired by the former speaker's reputation for ambitious, off-the-wall ideas (most notable, building a base on the moon), @GingrichIdeas broke character as the GOP primary slogged on for months. Its author went out on top, giving up the gig when Gingrich left the race in May.
Join us in #2016 for complete coverage of the London #Olympics.— NBC Delayed (@NBCDelayed) August 13, 2012
Author: Anonymous
This much-loved Twitter feed, now on hiatus until at least the next Winter Games, tapped into an Olympic torrent of rage directed at late-stage network television capitalism, largely from people who don't even own a TV. Despite tweeting only 64 times and bowing out when the games ended, @NBCDelayed is stilled followed by over 26,000 people.
Some of the people at this bar are acting like they've never seen a horse drink 7 fishbowl margaritas.— Rafalca Romney (@RafalcaRomney) September 21, 2012
Author: Anonymous
Ann Romney's Olympic horse became a rich source of comic fodder for Obama supporters, despite a disappointing performance in the dressage (Rafalca finished in 28th place). In the months since London, the account has morphed into an advocate for liberal causes, albeit with a thoroughbred horse as an avatar.
North Koreans should be grateful tonight that Dad banned television. #debate— KimJongNumberUn (@KimJongNumberUn) October 4, 2012
Author: Andy Borowitz
The ascension of the mini-golf-loving son of the late Kim Jong-il was feted by comedian Andy Borowitz with a parody account that has a staggering 200,000 followers. Faux Kim vents in equal measure about failed North Korean rocket launches and the U.S. presidential debates, along with questionable attempts at famine humor.
Left leg and I talked -- everything's cool. Next Oscars, she gets the slit.— Angelina Jolie's Leg (@AngiesRightLeg) February 27, 2012
Author: Anonymous
The leg that launched a thousand photo-bombs at the 2012 Oscars became a real-world meme before the ceremony was even over, when writer and Community co-star Jim Rash imitated Jolie's pose (in tuxedo pants, natch) onstage when he collected a statue for co-writing The Descendants. The Twitter account, creator unknown, has 42,000 followers and still updates intermittently.
Just because you are stuck at home doesn't mean you can skip bathing @lindsaylohan. Let's get wet and smell like flowers again.— Linday Lohans SCRAM(@lohanSCRAM) August 26, 2010
Author: Anonymous
The adventures of Lindsay Lohan's alcohol-intake monitor lasted until Lohan's October 2011 house arrest. It's been mostly silent since, but there's always hope for a sequel, especially given Lohan's latest dust-ups.
After el grande success de bañning el cigarettos fumar en el bars yo soy considering un baño on el alcoholo tambien.— Miguel Bloombito (@ElBloombito) September 24, 2012
Author: Rachel Figueroa
Inspired by Bloomberg's awkward Spanish at City Hall's Hurricane Irene press conference in August 2011, Rachel Figueroa-Levin (@jewyorican) still disseminates garbled Spanglish new daily. Aside from features on Buzzfeed, Time, the New York Observer, and Huffington Post, among others, El Bloombito's biggest coup was the shout-out it received from El Jefe himself.
Does anyone know if the Whole Foods in Columbus Circle sells organic mice?— Bronx Zoo's Cobra (@BronxZoosCobra) March 30, 2011
Author: Anonymous
New York City breathed a collective sigh of relief (albeit virtually) when the Bronx Zoo's escaped Egyptian cobra "took" to Twitter to reassure everyone, "[I'm] super-venomous, but not poisonous, so don't worry." A year and a half later, the wily snake now tweets just a few times a month, yet still boasts over 200,000 followers, including Marie Claire fashion editor Nina Garcia, Bergdorf Goodman, and Madison Square Garden. (To Daily Intel, he'll always be Shawsnake.)
Back in my college days, they called me The Human Breastpump.— Nick Nolte's Mugshot (@Nick_Nolte) May 21, 2012
Author: Anonymous
In 2002, Nick Nolte's DUI arrest resulted in the mug shot shared 'round the world. The actor's Medusa-like, GHB-fueled appearance spawned introspective missives like, "Aw, hell, who put a cat turd in my scotch? Eh, f*ck it." The eternal Nolte-on-a-bender parody continues to provide 39,000-plus followers a chance to live vicariously through Nolte's fictional days and nights.
IN CASE U MISSED IT: I WON THE GAME LAST NIGHT DESPITE BEING DIAGNOSED WITH A SEVERE CASE OF THE SNIFFLES.— LeBron James' Ego (@LeBronJamesEgo) May 19, 2011
Author: Chris O'Shea
Conceived after James announced he'd be "taking his talents to Miami," the first tweet ("TWEETING WHAT MY MOUTH CAN'T SAY") pretty much sums it up. Written in all caps — because lower-case letters simply would not do — its author, Chris O'Shea, retired it on July 15, 2011 but not before acquiring 29,286 followers. A shame — we'd have liked to see Ego's humility after winning the NBA championship and MVP title.
Did we miss any? Got updates on others? Let us know in the comments.


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Its clear the guild doesnt want a civilian panel to have access to unredacted files. However, the only rationale ONeil provided as to why OPARBs access should be restricted, was that looking at unredacted files wasnt in their job description.
they can't handle the truth.
Yay, SPOG (Secrecy for Police Outrage Gamesmanship) !!
Um... Jonah?
If the SPOG stands unchallenged with this win via PERC, what's to prevent them from refusing to bargain any new system into place during their next contract talks, slated for 2010?
Besides, do you really think the new council members, who got their positions almost entirely thanks to SPOG funding and efforts, will really try to enact any real meaningful changes against SPOG wishes?
I admit, it's an interesting way to look at it... but I'm afraid this ruling has some pretty scary and far-reaching implications for accountability efforts.
...Sorry, but the point is that irregardless as to whether the city wishes to fix the current system or implement a new one, it MUST appeal this ruling and win.
Otherwise, the SPOG, who is responsible for weakening the current system to the point where it could be gamed like it is today, will do the same to any other system or proposed change.
That's the sad truth of it.
Time for a citizen's INITIATIVE.
This has gone far enough.
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time for full on, no holds barred civilian/citizen oversight.
Why the fuck are issues of public oversight limited by contract bargaining? Shouldn't legislation trump all this bullshit?
I mean, seriously, I'm down with the citizens initiative idea.
I'd like an investigation into why Seattle's cops hate Seattle's citizens so much. They are way more antagonistic than LAPD.
Maybe someone should file one and bring copies to the Dem/GOP caucus locations on Feb. 9th?
Jonah are you crazy?
Tim Burgess the former cop and new head of the Public Safety committee is going to rebuild police accountability "from the ground up"?
WHO on the City Council is agitating for any real police accountability in this city? Seriously. No one had Nick's back when the Chief and Mayor tag-teamed him. Joe Szwaja was the only candidate for City Council who even supported creating a police accountability system with real teeth. Where is the call for any serious restructuring going to come from?
The feeling is now that they have got two Republican leaning councilmembers in charge of the public safety committee, Burgess and Harrell, they will be to ride out any kind of mutiny by the public.
Sorry fellers, but you're ignoring some relevant facts:
Both Burgess and Harrell are independents.
A citizen's initiative could only require the city to negotiate oversight. You can't change working conditions without a change in contract.
The police are still negotiating their one-year-overdue contract. They fully expect to go to arbitration. An arbiter is very unlikely to implement a major restructuring of oversight.
An observation:
I couldn't possibly imagine why the police would object to someone like Packratt on an oversight committee. He's clearly unbiased and appreciates the intricacies of their jobs.
What bargaining power does the Police Guild have? Are police allowed to strike in the event of a contract dispute?
#15 - the Guild is the police's union, so it basically does all the bargaining/negotiating for SPD officers. Whenever you hear anything related to SPOG, realize this is a union speaking. Unfortunately, SPOG has chosen to protect its members' interests over the community its members claim to serve, effectively alienating and setting themselves apart as separate (and more privileged) than the average community member. I'm all for supporting unions in general, but SPOG obstructs any accountability efforts, at a level beyond most other public employees' unions. This opening needs to be leveraged into some sort of change.
Thanks, Bookworm, but I understand the SPOG is the police union.
Normally, the bargaining power that a union holds is a near-monopoly on labor. If there is a dispute over their working arrangement, they have the option of refusing to work, thereby applying pressure on the employer, who needs their labor in order to operate.
But some unions, normally those that involve public safety, are barred from striking. In those cases, I'm curious what leverage they have.
For instance:
Widget builders: "We want more money per hour!"
Widgets, Inc.: "We won't pay you more. We have vacation homes to pay for, you know."
Widget builders: "Oh yeah? Build your own damned widgets, then. We're not going to be coming in to work tomorrow."
Widgets, Inc.: "Okay, look for it on your next paycheck."
But in this case:
SPD: "We demand no meaningful oversight!"
Citizens' elected officials: "No, when you fuck up, people are hurt. We're going review your work, and when you do something you are not supposed to -- like beat the shit out of some jaywalker who ran from your plainclothesed-asses after you jumped out of your unmarked drugbustforteituremobile and chased him down the street -- you're going to be looking for a new non-gun-wielding career."
SPD: "Oh yeah? Well then we're not... going to be... very happy about it."
Really -- how does this work? Jonah?
@14 ... independents.
Lol, you actually believe that.
My, you're gullible.
Will in Seattle: You're still on the hook for your "Oh my gawd, Burgess is a right-winger who hates the gays" blather during the election.
While he doesn't have a record as a council member upon which to stand, we'll let his actions speak for themselves as his term continues.
@15: no they cannot strike. But, SPOG/SPD have completely cowed the mayor and aside from Licata no one on the city council seems willing to take them on. So when they bargain their contract SPOG gets to insert language that it likes regarding oversight.
Until we get either a mayor or a majority of the council willing to stand up to them we will have no meaningful oversight.
Phil M:
Organized public service employees (esp. public safety employees) can't strike. It's against the law. It may still be against the law for them to even talk about striking.
They have two concessions during difficult labor negotiations.
1. They're a closed shop. The city isn't allowed to hire scabs or non-union cops to replace them.
2. The city is required to negotiate a contract with them. If neither party comes to an agreement, they're both required to go to an arbiter.
The arbiter is supposed to listen to both sides make their cases and decide a resolution somewhere in the middle of their sticking points.
Neither side wants to go to the arbiter, but both sides threaten.
The city lately has decided to let the public safety unions work without contracts.
Traditionally, an arbiter punishes the city for this behavior. The longer the cops go without a contract, the better deal they stand if negotiations go this far.
Since the mayor's latest term, the city has demanded a token from each union.
The firefighters agreed to work a little more than a week extra each year.
The fire chiefs agreed to let the city move them to different areas within the department.
The city may think they're setting a precedent with these tokens that will carry into future contract negotiations. Once a precedent is set, an arbiter is free to fall upon it in future arbitration.
BTW: In my experience, most cops want oversight. They just want what they consider fair oversight.
Most do great jobs. Most hate being lumped together in the public's eye with the assholes and the abusers. Fair oversight would allow them to point to their clean records when people make blanket statements about "all the cops".
I wish I knew what fair oversight looked like.
Six shooter: cops use the word "fair" to block all forms of oversight that would subject them to citizen authority. They do not trust anyone other than cops to judge them. But if there's a culture of impunity within the police department because of poor leadership from the Chief, then the whole idea of accountability collapses without citizen oversight.
You'd think that the Alley-Barnes case, and all the media attention it received, could force either the Chief to lead, the Mayor to fire the Chief, or the Council to step up in the absence of Chief/ Mayor leadership and reform the OPA system. The fact that none of this has happened is truly discouraging, and shows the limits of what the media can accomplish when their stories of corruption aren't coupled with sustained, mobilized citizen outrage.
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Peppers at 10, which seems low.
ben gedeon
The Guns Of September
- 2006 penn state
- 2015 byu
- amara darboh
- amara darboh is citizen dang
- ben gedeon
- channing stribling
- channing stribling needs to remain in this dimension
- delano hill
- deveon smith
- deveon smith human woodchipper
- execution is for coaches too
- game columns
- henry poggi
- jabrill peppers
- jake rudock
- khalid hill
- maurice hurst
- ryan glasgow
9/26/2015 – Michigan 31, BYU 0 – 3-1
HALP [Eric Upchurch]
"We were dominated in every facet, their defense over our offense. Every guy, every play. That thing was a shellshock, from the first snap right though the last."
–BYU offensive coordinator Robert Anae, 2015
"If you put a pit bull in a ring with a chihuahua, don't expect the chihuahua to win."
-former PSU WR Chafie Fields, 2006
The last time something like this happened, Alan Branch sent Anthony Morelli to the sidelines muttering about pudding. The year was 2006; Michigan's defense was a flamethrower of a thing. Dudes from it still litter NFL rosters: Branch, Lamarr Woodley, David Harris, Leon Hall, hell, Ryan Mundy. Each level of the defense had an NFL Pro Bowler on it. Lloyd Carr had finally, agonizingly made a switch from Jim Herrmann to Ron English, and things took off.
This was right after 2005, the 7-5 year one idiot Michigan fan dubbed "the year of infinite pain" because the worst thing that had ever happened to him as a sports fan was a light pillow buffeting followed by off-brand ice cream. That year Michigan had coughed up all manner of leads in all manner of ways, culminating in the infamous punt from the Ohio State 34 and the nigh-effortless OSU drive to win that followed. That was a jarring thing, the first gray hair emerging from the program's ear.
Adapting to the reality of the 2006 defense's otherworldliness was gradual, and then sudden. The Penn State game was the seventh that season, and only then was it crystal clear that what was going on was not the usual. It took just four games this season to start wondering about a repeat.
It's hard not to when BYU's coaches are wandering around wondering what blew their clothes off, when their quarterback comes to regard the pocket like it's the Mines of Moria. Here there be Balrogs. A full two-deep of them.
via Ace
Here's the numbers stuff. Michigan's third in the country in yards per play allowed, behind
- a Boston College team that started the season off with Florida State… and Howard, Maine, and Northern Illinois
- a Kent State team that's only in the conversation because it held Delaware State (remember them?) to –33 yards.
Michigan hasn't given up more than 337 yards in a game; two teams barely crested 100 yards and a third used a fourth-quarter drive to get over 200. The one team that moved the ball a bit on them, Utah, just atomized Oregon. S&P has Michigan fourth. (FEI does not update until week seven.) Michigan's already acquired 32 TFLs, 8th nationally on a per-play basis. Again they are mostly behind teams who scheduled Random Assemblage Of Ants In Helmets State. By any measure Michigan has established itself one of the nation's top defenses a month into the season.
A month is not a year. A number is just a number. But these numbers reflect what we've seen when Michigan has rolled out onto the field. They go seven deep on the defensive line. They have an All-American corner and two more guys coming on, and oh also Jabrill Peppers.
Aside from some blips in coverage against Oregon State none of the results have felt at all fortunate. In fact big chunks of the yards acquired have been batted passes still caught or sacks miraculously spun out of, with a side of NFL throws made under extreme duress. This level of performance is not sustainable, but only because we are currently peeved when the opponent scrapes into triple digits.
Any reasonably sane projection we're in on. We will also consider slightly insane ones.
That 2006 defense sprung leaks. We got a taste of it a couple weeks before Football Armageddon when Michigan ran out to a big lead against Ball State and rested the starters. Johnny Sears fell over a lot, Ball State scored, and scored again, and soon the starters were in desperately trying to prevent a potential tying touchdown in the waning moments.
That was Akron before Akron, and if you want to point a finger to the exact moment when a paranoid observer would have started building a bomb shelter, that was it. The soon-to-be 2007 secondary faced a jankety MAC spread and collapsed.
A couple weeks alter Michigan would go the whole game against soon-to-be Heisman winner Troy Smith with a 4-3 on the field against a spread offense. Chris Graham tried to cover Tony Gonzalez, a future first round draft pick at wide receiver. It went poorly. Michigan gave up 42 points. A couple months later Michigan shut down USC for a half; in the locker room Pete Carroll told his offensive coordinator to stop running the damn ball. USC ripped off 29 second-half points.
2006's Achilles heel—they had one great cornerback, one okay one, and nothing else—was in retrospect obvious but it took a long time to find anyway.
One may be on the way here, but it's hard to figure out what it might be. The spread ineptness that haunted Michigan's manball administrations for a decade and a half is emphatically out the door. If the thing you're exploiting against this secondary is the third and fourth corners on fly routes down the sideline, good luck. If there's an ACHILLES OUT OF NOWHERE here it's probably the sudden degradation of the defensive line if and when they face elite opposition. Even the occasionally iffy linebacker play will probably be fine against the kind of team that seeks to test Michigan there.
And I can't see that happening. We head back to precedents in an attempt to communicate how something feels. It is possible we're not going quite far enough back for this one.
And from the BYU perspective:
Also every snap videos for the offense and defense.
Come back here young man who is older than me [Upchurch]
Yet To Be Named Harbaugh-Themed Guys Who Did Good Award.
you're the man now, dog
#1 Ryan Glasgow has somehow not featured on these lists yet. It says all you need to know about Michigan's faith in him that they decided to spend most of the day in dime with 5 or 6 guys in the box. Glasgow collected his usual TFL or two and was the linchpin of a 2.0 YPC performance in the most attractive circumstances possible for a rushing offense.
#2 Jabrill Peppers had his usual TFL, threw a BYU receiver to the ground with authority at the end of the first half, was not beaten in coverage, played (sort of) tiny WLB much of the day, spooked Tanner Mangum into a fumble on one particular blitz, and had two near-electric punt returns. Also, fair catches.
#3 De'Veon Smith ripped off this week's Who's Got It Better Than Us and thundered over 100 yards in the first half. It feels sort of wrong to put any offensive player on this list after that D performance, but I mean… yeah.
Honorable mention: All defensive persons. Darboh.
YTBNHTGWDGA Standings.
5: Chris Wormley(#2 Utah, #1 Oregon State)
3: Jake Butt (#1 Utah), Jourdan Lewis (#1 UNLV), De'Veon Smith(#2 Oregon State, #3 BYU), Ryan Glasgow (#1 BYU).
2: Ty Isaac(#2 UNLV), Jabrill Peppers(#2 BYU).
1: Willie Henry (#3 Utah), AJ Williams (#3 Oregon State), Channing Stribling(#3 UNLV)
Who's Got It Better Than Us Of The Week
This week's best thing ever.
Absolutely brutal decision this week but have to go with De'Veon Smith teleporting through a pile of players and then posterizing the same defensive back twice.
Honorable mention: Amara Darboh's OBJ impression. Every defensive snap save approximately three of them.
WGIBTUs Past.
Utah: Crazy #buttdown.
Oregon State: #tacopunts.
UNLV: Ty Isaac's 76 yard touchdown.
BYU: De'Veon Smith's illicit teleporter run.
This week's worst thing ever.
BYU scrapes over 100 total yards on their last drive.
Honorable mention: Rudock doesn't see the fact that Jehu Chesson's guy has fallen down on the first snap. Michigan gets stuffed on a fourth down in the second half. Blake O'Neill goes rogue on a 4th and 16 punt fake.
PREVIOUS EDBs
Utah: circle route pick six.
Oregon State: Rudock fumbles after blitz bust.
UNLV: Rudock matches 2014 INT total in game 3.
BYU: BYU manages to get to triple digit yards in the last minutes of the game.
[After the JUMP: I AM FEELING QUITE POSITIVE THIS WEEK YES SIR]
Upon Further Review 2015: Defense vs UNLV
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FORMATION NOTES: By this point the defense is pretty well established. We got a few glimpses at what Michigan intends to do against pro-style formations; this is a 4-4 with the line shifted over (to the strength of the formation), Ross at SAM, and Hill threatening off the weakside:
Wilson, the free safety, is about 20 yards downfield.
I'm calling the thing where they drop the buck off the line like so…
…"30 nickel buck" to distinguish it from an actual 3-3-5.
This is what I mean by "triple stack" on UNLV's part; Michigan is in their standard nickel even:
SUBSTITUTION NOTES: Line was close to the first two games with Henry/Glasgow/Wormley backed by Charlton/Hurst/Godin except that you could replace Henry in the starting lineup with Godin based on snaps played. Henry got cut a bunch on the backside of zones and didn't see much time in the middle of the game.
WDE/buck was the usual 70/30 split between Ojemudia and RJS.
Lawrence Marshall got in on the last drive, as did Brady Pallante.
Linebacker was the same; a little more James Ross at SAM in this game; Gedeon and Ross also got a couple drives as ILBs in the nickel.
Secondary saw the same rotation as per usual (Lewis/Peppers/Wilson/Hill with Stribling or Clark in the nickel) except that Wayne Lyons was the dime back. Brandon Watson got in on the last drive as well.
[After THE JUMP: defense crush]
Preview 2015: Linebacker
Previously: Podcast 7.0. The Story. Quarterback. Running Back. Wide Receiver. Tight End And Friends. Offensive Line. Defensive Tackle. Defensive End.
[Eric Upchurch]
|James Ross
|Desmond Morgan
|Joe Bolden
|Allen Gant
|Ben Gedeon
|Jared Wangler
|Jabrill Peppers
|Mike McCray
|Noah Furbush
This is music to a new defensive coordinator's ear: Michigan sports an all-senior linebacker corps. All have started for multiple years, give or take a hand injury or benching here and there. They've even got a high-quality backup. Senior leadership is out of control, man!
Approximately the fourth-best* thing to happen to the 2015 team's chances over the last year was DESMOND MORGAN breaking his hand after the first game of the season. That didn't have much impact on where 2014 went; it gives this year's team a three-year starter to slot in the Jake Ryan-shaped hole at middle linebacker.
By this point you're probably tired of me extolling Morgan's virtues, and since he didn't do much last year other than fall behind Joe Bolden just long enough for me to eat a lemon this is going to be a rehash.
Morgan is a heady, athletic enough, stick-em tackler who's been yelling at the rest of the front seven to get in the correct spot for a few years now. He is your proverbial quarterback of the defense. That role will probably be lessened this year since the entire front seven consists of upperclassmen, but expect him to thwack Lawrence Marshall and maybe Mo Hurst should the need arise. Mike Spath got a great quote about Morgan's ability in that department:
On U-M's linebackers: "We played them two years ago and the guy that everyone seemed to listen to was [Desmond] Morgan. Those guys are invaluable. Everyone respects them.
"Last year, you didn't hear a lot of talk from the middle linebacker. I don't think Jake Ryan was a talker. He just wanted to do his own thing. He was very good at it, but he wasn't that guy in the middle of a defense that was taking care of the other 10 guys on the field."
When called into duty to make a tackle, he brings the wood.
During the 2014 Minnesota game he uncorked this ridiculous thing where he flew in on a blitz, had to leap over a guy, kept his feet, held up two blockers, and helped stuff a third and short.
When he's not making eye-popping plays he's keeping things going down-to-down. The one glimpse at him we got last year was enough for me to bring out a Picture Pages about Morgan's LB instincts.
Morgan found himself in a bad stop here, taking on a free releasing lineman in a bunch of space. He popped that OL back; the RB ran into said OL, and Michigan saved some yards.
When Jake Ryan faced the exact same situation later on that drive, he tried to make a spectacular play. His attempt to teleport around that OL was an instinct that served him well as a chaos-sowing SAM linebacker; when moved to MLB that instinct meant he didn't delay the back at all. Instead of six yards, Michigan gave up 11.
That's Morgan in a nutshell. He will hit guys hard and funnel back to his help and drop into his zone. He'll make it difficult for a QB to get a completion on him; he'll make it difficult for a running back to get YAC on him; he'll make it difficult for an OL to stay attached to him. He's not going to turn in Ryan's Tarzan plays, but you don't have to do that to be a great middle linebacker.
As David Harris demonstrated, MLB is a thinking man's spot. Harris was just about flawless with his reads, and his understanding of the game extended to ways to get off blocks without even taking them—one of his trademarks was in effect juking OL by momentarily fighting to one side of a block and then cutting back once the OL took a false step. Morgan had some moments like that a year ago:
Do that consistently and you get to be David Harris too.
Morgan's coverage is good. Very rarely does he vacate big tracts of land, as both Ryan and Bolden were prone to last year. He of course saved Michigan's bacon in the 2013 UConn game (for all the good that did them in the long run) with a leaping spear of an interception. Add it up and you get a 2013 UFR in extended, trying circumstances that looks like a guy who is on the verge of stardom:
|Crunch crunch bang bang
|Notre Dame
|Coped pretty well in coverage. Responsible for both EZ deflections.
|Negative coverage number should be factored in here.
|Saved the game.
|First real test this year passed easily.
|Penn State
|Rough start, strong finish.
|Blitzed effectively.
|Blew one TFL big. Otherwise solid.
|Drawn in by some misdirection.
|Pulled early with injury.
UFR is tough on linebackers, so anything above zero is good. To consistently go over it over the course of a season, generally on heavy usage is very difficult.
The main drawback here is explosiveness. Morgan doesn't rack up TFLs and sacks; he's not great at getting to the quarterback on blitzes. (Run blitzes, on the other hand, he is excellent at, especially on short yardage.) He is not the kind of athlete that is going to make the NFL salivate.
But there are few guys I'd rather have on third and one. Morgan should reprise his 2013 with some incremental improvements. That would make him an All Big Ten level guy even if the lack of fancy stats prevents that from happening in real life.
*[Your top three are Dave Brandon late night email sessions, Harbaugh, and Jake Rudock's transfer.]
[After THE JUMP: seniors are made of leadership]
Unverified Voracity Has Explored Time Travel
Hello Kip. Harbaugh Twitter Summer continues unabated.
@bgedeon42 has the most swag on the michigan football team pic.twitter.com/iO2QPgIJ1r
— Maurice Hurst Jr (@BigPappi73) July 21, 2015
This fall Gedeon answers press conference questions by saying things are getting pretty serious and stating that he loves technology. Bank on it.
Finally. #M00N makes Erase This Game. The Funchess butt fumble is not even mentioned. That's how #M00N #M00N was.
M00N is a sad game, and some of that tragedy comes from the advantage of hindsight. Winning didn't save Michigan's season or Brady Hoke's job, as they followed this with a home finale loss to Maryland. Losing didn't inspire Northwestern to a turnaround; even though they beat Notre Dame a week later, the Wildcats missed bowl eligibility by losing to a depleted Illinois team in their last game. That's the bad news.
The good news is every astronaut gets astronaut ice cream. Let's check out today's flavors.
I have been eating Cookies 'N Ennui for a long time now.
Okay. Former TE/DE Keith Heitzman is at Ohio for his final year of eligibility. The Dispatch has an article that's trying to rake up some muck on a standard practice in college:
Keith Heitzman understood that big changes were in order after Jim Harbaugh was hired to replace Brady Hoke as Michigan football coach just hours before the New Year.
What staggered Heitzman was that he might have been one of those changes. Every player going into his fifth year of eligibility, he was told, would have to audition for his job during spring practices.
Heitzman, degree in hand, opted out. That's fine for him and fine for Michigan.
The worst thing you can pin on Harbaugh is a lack of tact. We will put this evidence of Harbaugh's lack of tact in the extradimensional bag of holding. There it can mingle with its fellows and not fill the universe stem to stern.
For perspective, over the years I've read plenty of articles that reference Notre Dame's policy in this department. They come at it from the other direction, wondering not who might be departing but who might be coming back:
The future for the remaining 14 seniors on the roster, all of whom are eligible for a fifth year, is less certain. … At the most, half of them will return. Notre Dame's 2015 recruiting class sits at 21 verbal commitments, which, if all 21 sign letters of intent in February, will give the Irish 78 scholarship players of the 85 the NCAA allows.
All of ND's seniors walk on senior day, even if they have another year of eligibility. That's how much of a non-story this is.
"It happens," said the jaded boat owner. SCUFFLE KERFUFFLE ON THE WATER
The Border Battle played a role in getting two people arrested and locked up at the Ottawa County Jail.
A Michigan-Ohio State football argument on the Jet Express allegedly prompted a fight that resulted in assault charges.
Witnesses say the rivalry argument turned physical between two couples with a woman pulling another woman's hair and the two men throwing punches at each other.
1. The "Jet Express" is so well known in Ottawa County that there is no explanation of what it is. There is a picture of a boat.
I assume it's the boat. Ottawa County readers are boggling at my ignorance right now. The Jet Express is Ottawa County.
2. This was undoubtedly issued with a grim sigh.
"It happens," says Todd Blumensaadt, owner of the Jet Express. "They get very passionate about their teams."
You see a lot of things when you own a boat. Most of them are stupid.
3. This man is either named "Larry Money" or "Larry Mahoney"—the article is uncertain—and has a hot take.
"Sports are good, but when it reaches that point, obviously it's way overboard."
Good point, Larry Money Mahoney. OR SHOULD I CALL YOU ADAM MONEY JACOBI?
4. Ace grabbed a "Money" Mahoney screenshot:
"sparty fan"
Is he Carl Monday's brother? That's not generally how names work but we've already established that Gary Money Mahoney is not beholden to your "rules" about nomenclature, man.
5. This reporter may have had to scrounge up quotes for this dumb story, wondering the whole time how she was ever going to pay off her Princeton J-school student loans, but at least she's not working for Gawker.
6. I may have spent too much time on this.
1977 pep rally. Featuring Bo! He guarantees a win! They burn an OSU player in effigy! They wear 70s clothes! The reporter's jacket!
Michigan won 14-6. Harbaugh was probably at the pep rally and knew Bo had zero basis for getting mad at him when he issued his guarantee.
Surprise. That CSG survey they did in the middle of the general admission fiasco makes the WSJ because it appears to be the first serious attempt to figure out what the kids actually want at football games. A company has just confirmed that with a much larger survey that somehow surprises the author:
The most recent support for this surprising result comes from a new survey by the National Association of Collegiate Marketing Administrators and Oregon's sports marketing center. It asked almost 24,000 students across the country to rank the factors that influenced their decision to attend games. By far the most important was a student's interest in that sport. By far the least important was a stadium's cellular reception or wireless capability.
The study is so counterintuitive that it seems like it must be an outlier—except that it is supported by similar polls in places where college football is massively popular.
At Michigan, when the student government asked undergraduates why they go to football games, what they found clashed with conventional wisdom: Michigan's students simply didn't care that much about mobile connectivity. In-game Wi-Fi wasn't as essential as lower ticket prices or better seat locations. Among the seven possible improvements to the game-day experience, in fact, students ranked cell reception last.
I'm not sure where that notion came from, other than the sort of gentleman who talks about social engagement and uses hashtags# like coffee dad. And it's not like they even fixed mobile connectivity at Michigan despite thinking that was the most important thing they could do.
Gonna get paid. I don't think Jim Delany has much to do with it, but Lost Letterman points out that the Big Ten is likely to get paid when their contract—the last to get renegotiated for a long time—comes up:
Since launching FOX Sports 1 two summers ago, FOX has been waiting for its chance to put a huge monkey wrench in ESPN's world dominance of sports. This is that chance.
The Big 10's 10-year, $1 billion contract with ESPN and six-year, $72 million deal with CBS for select basketball games and six-year, $145 million pact for the Big 10 Championship Game all expire after the 2016-17 season and a new, gargantuan deal will be struck within the next 12 months.
The only two legitimate TV players for the conference's Tier 1 football rights (best games) are Disney (ABC/ESPN) and FOX, as CBS already has the Tier 1 rights to the SEC and NBC is content airing Notre Dame home games.
The only thing we know for certain is that the Big 10 is about to get paid.
Delany will get the credit for being the camel herder who sat down on this particular patch of oil again, when literally anyone could sit in a room and watch FOX and ESPN go blow for blow. The Big Ten will use this money to hire more MAC coaches.
Best make your money now, though: ESPN is 20th(!) on the list of a la carte channels people would pay for. Barking Carnival has an excellent article on the coming cord cutting that touches on points I've made and continues with them.
Etc.: Michigan's schmancy new dorm. When I was in college the dorms were made out of mildew and we liked it. Predicting Michigan's win total with SCIENCE. Extremely early Utah preview from SBN's Ian Boyd. Someone has to make the tough decisions like "let's play a game in Dubai." Harbaugh antics.
Practice Bits: Defense
3-4, 4-3, etc etc
I've said this before and I'll probably say it again several times before the season starts: Michigan is not likely to be moving to a traditional 3-4 system. Nor will they spend a lot of time implementing a traditional 3-4 to mix in with a 4-3. The time commitment to do so is prohibitive at the college level, and the kind of personnel who can effectively do both are too rare.
So what's with all the discussion about moving to a 3-4? It comes from the top, as this Sam Webb interview with Marcus Ray indicates:
Sam Webb: Michigan is telling kids that they are going to be basically 50/50 as far as 3-4, 4-3. As best you can without having a visual aid or a grease board, explain to people, how that will come to pass and why Michigan is saying that, why that makes sense.
Ray describes the 4-3 under as something that could be looked at as a 5-2…
Brennen Beyer, the stand-up SAM in this picture, bounced between SAM and DE for his career
…and says that a 3-4 can look a lot like the under. Both accurate, and as I've mentioned before you can look at the under as a defense halfway between the traditional Miami-style 4-3 even/over and a 3-4.
But I think the distinction here is a bit of a red herring. I asked Spencer Hall what Florida ran last year and he replied it was a 4-3 with a standup end (Dante Fowler); my observations of the Florida defense rarely encounter a nose tackle lined up directly over the center. He's almost always in a gap.
Could it shade to a 3-4? Sure, I guess. Why would they do that? There are two reasons:
- To run a 3-4! Obviously.
- To disguise their 4-3. Gap-sound unpredictability is a major goal of all defenses. Putting a nose tackle over the center gives him an advantage if he's going to slant one way or the other, but the idea is still the same: get in a gap.
Ray explains:
"If you line up in that A gap or that center believes that they know you have this gap then it is easier for them to block you because you're more of a standing target, they know what gap you're responsible for, but in that 30 front, you can slant and angle in either way. They don't know which gap you are responsible for and they have to guess and try to figure it out once the ball is snapped, but it gives the D-lineman the flexibility to go either way. And then let the truth be told, in that same 30 front, if you have a noseguard that is lined up right over the center and he slants to the strong side, then that is technically going back to under. If that noseguard slants to the weak side, in the weak side A gap, then that technically puts you in an over front, because the entire front has to shift along with him, so now that gives you some 4-3 flexibility from a 30 front if you just slant and angle, it puts you right into a 4-3 defense."
If you believe that Ryan Glasgow will hold the nose tackle job, a 30 front featuring him is an undeclared 4-3. Michigan doesn't have a Nix or a Gabe Watson to hold down the middle of that defense and two-gap the center unless Ondre Pipkins goes from afterthought to superstar in his final year or Bryan Mone is terrific as a sophomore.
Michigan may run a bunch of different fronts but at its heart the defense is probably a 4-3. And judging from Florida last year it's not going to seem that much different than Mattison's fronts.
Defensive Line
Lawrence Marshall is a name to watch. [Bryan Fuller]
Anyway this is all a lead-in to an assertion that for now I'm still assuming Michigan has a traditional 4-3 look this fall and I won't be changing up the nomenclature yet.
If and when we get enough data to do so it looks like the first change will be at WDE, which Florida folks sometimes call "drop end." Reports hold that Mario Ojemudia and Lawrence Marshall are frequently in a two point stance—something Marshall had never done and was taking some time adjusting to—this fall. Again, this gives the impression of a 3-4. In my mind it's taking the Mattison 4-3 under a half-step towards a 3-4 but whatever.
Marshall is doing well. His athleticism stands out and he's already about as big as Ojemudia. Ojemudia had to put on a bunch of weight and topped out around 250; unfortunately he hasn't displayed the explosiveness he had in high school at the bulkier number. A platoon is certain… unless Marshall wrests the job away and Ojemudia is again called upon to be a guy who plays spot downs to rest the starter. Michigan is trying out the occasional linebacker there as well, with Royce Jenkins-Stone the most prominent.
The other three spots have seen a ton of rotation, some of it involuntary. Injuries have held out big chunks of the line for a practice or three. When present, Willie Henry has been impressive. Chris Wormley is playing SDE again($), which makes sense given the depth chart (especially with Henry Poggi trying his hand at TE, and double especially if Michigan is moving back to more of an under). 4-3 under SDE is a better fit for him, as he can be that RVB type with a bit more pass rush.
There's as of yet no movement away from the presumed lineup of senior starters: Ross, Morgan, Bolden. With Greg Mattison still around I'm not surprised. 247 does mention a competitor to the presumed starters($):
[Ben] Gedeon has popped out early as a potential contributor in this year's defense. He has potentially the best combination of size, athleticism and intelligence at the position and it might turn into a situation where it's difficult to keep him off the field. For the second straight season, linebacker may be Michigan's deepest position, so if he stays on the field consistently, it will be because he's turned into a good to great player.
Scout also mentioned Gedeon as a potential breakout performer.
True junior Gedeon is a prime member of Team Why U No Redshirt who needs to start making an impact now. Michigan has rotated extensively in the past—not so much last year—and I expect he'll get playing time almost in line with the starters.
That is about all the chatter, with Ross/Bolden/Morgan the presumed starters. They look good when the DL isn't having them catch blocks all day, which has been something of an issue since a lot of guys have been out.
There have been plenty of reports on Jabrill Peppers, who is looking like the Jabrill Peppers everyone dreamed about when he committed. Peppers bounces from safety to nickelback and looks like Jabrill Peppers should. He is taking ownership of his unit even as a sophomore:
"He's a high energy, high motor guy and he's going to talk trash," Countess said last week. "And he's going to get everybody going. He's been one of those guys you want on the field.
"Even if he has a bad play, he's going to let you know. And if he has a good play, he's definitely going to let you know."
Countess loves the energy and the intent. But when asked if there is ever a time when he'd like to have the ability to quiet his younger teammate, he's quick with an answer.
No way.
"I love it," he says with a smile. "He says the stuff that I don't say, but everybody's thinking."
As Michigan State demonstrated last year, one of the most important positions on the field as an aggressive defense going up against spread offenses is the slot-side safety. He often gets tested deep in cover four.
It'll be interesting to see how Michigan aligns. I'm guessing Peppers just gets the field side as they rely on the restricted space to help Jarrod Wilson out. An observer from the coaching clinic did note that Peppers is usually "aligning to pass strength," so that is encouraging in terms of keeping Wilson in a FS-ish role he's comfortable with and maximally utilizing Peppers's skills.
Jourdan Lewis is also drawing consistent praise. He was Michigan's #1 corner by midseason last year, passing both Countess and Taylor; it sounds like he has picked up where he left off plus a little bit of tackling strength. With Blake Countess set to be a four-year starter the top four guys in the secondary are pretty set. The main question is: can Countess bounce back from some rough times last year and play man to man? 247 has heard he is in "lockdown" mode, so there's that. I'm reserving judgment.
Freddy Canteen is getting a few reps at CB, so… that's odd. Harbaugh loves flipping guys around to see what they can do, and Canteen is a guy who could theoretically be a good corner. Doubt it sticks, but whatever.
H4: The Burned Redshirts in Order of Argh
- al borges hates me
- ben gedeon
- brady hoke has no need for your fancy utensils
- brady hoke is trolling
- brady hoke needs to coach better
- brennen beyer
- channing stribling
- da'mario jones
- dymonte thomas
- h4
- hokepoints
- i hate burning redshirts just for blocking
- i hate burning redshirts on special teams
- james ross
- mario ojemudia
- raymon taylor
- redshirt
- royce jenkins-stone
- taco charlton
I realize Strobel got one. Find a better photo then, pickers of nits.
This has to be talked about. Hoke left a roster that was in relatively good shape considering all the highly rated players who had to stick through some awful program degradation. He signed good classes, and those classes have by and large stuck around and fulfilled their academic duties. But an inordinate amount of them inexplicably didn't redshirt, and because of this there are some holes on the horizon.
I'm sure there are explanations in many of these cases that we are not party to. It's only the sheer volume of head-scratching non-redshirts under Hoke that gives us reason to call all of them into question. Like how I'm sure there are legit medical hardship waivers that occur at Alabama but [graph].
Some guys the coaches were forced to play early, and there's no need to discuss them beyond a mention as such, e.g. Jabrill Peppers. Mason Cole outcompeted a pile of guys to start at left tackle last season. That sort of thing gets a full pass. Beyond that, I've broken each Hoke class into categories of increasing argh:
- WTF. Wasting redshirts on special teams and dime back when last year's dime back is on the bench.
- Pick ONE. Needed bodies at this position, but not all the bodies. Battles for 2nd on the depth chart should be resolved in time for the ultimate loser to have a 5th year as consolation.
- Need the dudes (and other things I don't blame on the coaches). Immediate starters or guys who played because Michigan sorely needed his body and his pulse at that position.
Names that should have redshirted are in red.
Class of 2011
Did you really need both, 2011? [Upchurch]
Hoke arrived to an offensive machine with two years of eligibility remaining, and a nightmare defense of guys who couldn't displace recent departures like Jonas Mouton, Ray Vinopal, Adam Patterson, Greg Banks, and James Rogers. The immediate need was obvious and Hoke rightfully set about recruiting freshmen who could fill those roles. So I'll give him a pass for some of it.
|Hollowell's 2011 contribution was more than scooping up a fumbled kickoff against VT, but it was also more than Ray Taylor's. [Melanie Maxwell|AnnArbor.com]
Wtf: None.
Pick ONE
Raymon Taylor and Delonte Hollowell. The year following the Never Forget defensive backfield, Hoke recruited five likely cornerbacks: Blake Countess, Raymon Taylor, Delonte Hollowell, Tamani Carter (redshirted, transferred before 2012), and Greg Brown (early enrollee, transferred before 2011 season). The roster still had J.T. Floyd, Courtney Avery and Terrence Talbott (left program summer before 2012 season), available. In a pinch, Troy Woolfolk could have converted back when Thomas Gordon won the free safety job. At least one, and probably two true freshmen would have to play.
It immediately became apparent that one would be Countess. So to fill out the two deep they would need to burn Taylor or Hollowell's shirt. Hollowell arrived as the quintessential Cass Tech mite corner. The guy was 164 pounds, but saw some action at dime back vs. Nebraska, and recovered the fumble at the end of the first half. Taylor had two tackles and a personal foul.
Brennen Beyer and Frank Clark. Going into the season Beyer was a SAM and Clark a WDE. The difference between those positions in Michigan's 4-3 under was not very great, particularly because when Beyer was inserted it was for a 5-2 look. The WDE's depth chart was Craig Roh and Jibreel Black; SAM was Jake Ryan and Cam Gordon. The reason I say one would have played anyway is the rush end position has a lot rotation, and Black was already the starter in the nickel formation.
There wasn't much to differentiate the two in aggregate play; Beyer was the more consistent, Clark the more explosive. The coaches chose to have them compete through the year instead of preserving one. Had they done so Beyer was the obvious choice despite Clark's higher ceiling. Beyer was smaller and Michigan had Roh to be a more solid edge defender, but only Clark to be a merchant of chaos (remember the Sugar Bowl interception). On the other hand Frank had a rough history before Glenville, and could have used an adjustment season. Either way he would have been dismissed after last year's incident.
Needed dudes etc.
Blake Countess and Desmond Morgan won starting jobs on the 2011 defensive reclamation project. They also both would lose a season to injury so we have them back yay. Thomas Rawls I'm not broken up about, though he will be a pretty good MAC back this year. RBs usually have most of the "it" they ever will as freshmen, and if they do become long-term starters the toll it takes on their bodies means they're often better off moving through their careers early. A redshirt year can make a guy a better blocker, or put some distance between a good back and his heir, or let a smaller guy fill in. Matt Wile is a special pass even though they wasted his redshirt on kickoff duties (and punting during Hagerup's first suspension). I learned recently that Wile made it clear from the start he intended to graduate in four years and do engineering things.
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Both Git and Mercurial are DVCS, and that's great. I wonder if there is a list of particular situations when one of those systems are preferable, something like 'In mobile development for many platforms git is better because ...'.
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Operating System
Are you and/or your team Windows based?: Mercurial is less hassle to use/set up than Git, since it kind of needs you to install a bash console (you can use cygwin instead though).
If you are linux/mac based, either choice is fine, but you might like git more because of all its power tools.
Experience with DVCSs
If you are new to DVCSs, choose Mercurial. If not, try git. Git has lots of toys that might make your learning curve somewhat steeper, Mercurial, OTOH, you will learn in a breeze. Read http://hginit.com/ for a very comprehensive guide.
Also, read http://hginit.com/00.html if you come from CVS/SVN.
Mercurial is a full-featured DVCS, git OTOH I'd even say its almost a DVCS framework (check this cheatsheet out) that can support more specific workflow cases for very big teams/projects.
Also, very importantly, git lets you change your repository history, which can be considered a bad thing (); Mercurial does not let you change your history.
In general terms, I'd say git is overkill in a good way. Personally, I use both mercurial and git, but I always teach mercurial to my coworkers
There is no wrong choice
Actually and IMHO, you should learn both, but always start with Mercurial. Too really see how they compare (which are really somewhat smaller details) I recommend you reading these two articles:
The path of the DVCS
Try mercurial first to make your introduction to DVCSs way more pleasant. I've seen a lot of people rant their way into git and end up loving it, but OTOH I've seen people make their whole way into mercurial in complete awe. After that, if you feel mercurial is not enough you can continue your path with git seamlessly.
Update: Mercurial is now better at letting you modify the history, see:
You should use git when a project or community you want to contribute to uses git, and use Mercurial when they use Mercurial. It may seem obvious, but the community is more important than the tool.
I would suggest learning both, since they are so similar in many ways, that way you can contribute equally easily to projects and communities that use either.
For example, if you are starting a project to develop a Linux device driver, git is the obvious choice, whereas if it's a python project, hg would be logical.
An excellent description of why Python chose mercurial can be found on the Brett Cannons blog, which links to his paper PEP 374 -- Choosing a distributed VCS for the Python project which documents their decision making process.
Alas, I couldn't quickly find an equivalent paper for a community which chose git instead.
Generally Mercurial is easier to learn than Git
So use Mercurial (Hg) if you want to learn distributed version control and get your pet project off the ground real quick.
Online services such as BitBucket offer the same features as GitHub for collaborative projects.
We used SVN, than migrated to MERCURIAL and recently to GIT. Git has some immediate advantages over hg: stashing and the index (simpler atomic commits). Than you'll appreciate the easy branching. You will regret git and miss hg when something goes wrong or when you need to deeply understand some concept like "rebasing" or "fast forwarding". I really hate to have to dig into the options madness of git when I need to do something trivial like "svn revert"... In conclusion: git does too much for the majority of projects that are using it and the learning curve is too steep. (ah, and I really laugh when "git stat" says "Did you mean status?" - I know, alias, I know...)
For some time, Mercurial worked better on Windows than Git did, and that was a reason to use Mercurial. It's also generally easier to get into.
Both Mercurial and Git will do pretty much what you want with a DVCS. There are differences, but they're unlikely to matter in day-to-day operations for most people. Learn one first to get the concepts down, then you can learn how to use the other quickly whenever you need or want to.
I think it all depends what platform you use. I decided on using git on PHP project that I knew everyone was using *nix because they had no problems typing in commands in.
For my other PHP project we have a lot of people using windows as well as mac and linux. It was a breeze to use Mercurial all of those platforms.
Also I think what is also good is the fact that both NetBeans and Eclipse offer support for Mercurial pretty much out of the box. Last time I tried using git on Eclipse it was very bad and i ended up using console. (It was few months ago)
I think it is better to learn one and then read one of the tutorials that shows you command differences etc. Learning two at the same time will just frustrate you because of some small command differences.
This is an old question and the answers were valid at the time they were written.
Therefore first look at the skills of your team and if they know Mercurial but not Git, it may be a good reason to use Mercurial.
Otherwise I think it is very much like the Videotape wars of my childhood. Betamax was clearly the "best" quality recording, yet VHS won and was clearly the best option for most people, due to it being used by so many more people.


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- Most bookedEnglish Inn
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"It was a charming hotel with a large, comfortable bed and beautiful room and grounds. The staff was friendly and helpful and the breakfast was great. Will stay there when we come back."
A Traveller, Jul 2016, US
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"My daughter and I took a little get away together and found our room cozy and clean and nice and quiet. Enjoyed the sound of the ocean down below and the cool breeze blowing from the open windows. Very comfortable sleep."
A Traveller, Aug 2015, CA
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"Five Stars are not enough for this little gem. Everything about it is amazing. Peaceful & tranquil setting on the water. Inside the cottage is cozy, comfy, clean, with a fully equipped kitchen. I could stay there forever. The staff & other boat people are friendly & wonderful. I can't say enough ..."
A Traveller, Jun 2016, CA
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"The stay was nice. At first we had an issue with cleanliness. The tub & shower were dirty,plus there was not enough towels or pillow cases. They responded quickly and resolved our issues and the rest of our stay was pleasant. Neighborhood was nice except a lot of noise in the morning from constru..."
A Traveller, Aug 2015, US
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"Had a great time, so much to see in Victoria and this hotel is a little quieter as it is not right downtown but close enough to walk there."
A Traveller, Jul 2016, CA
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"Very enjoyable. Pool was nice to sit around and relax in."
A Traveller, Jul 2016, CA
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"Front office staff very knowledgable and helpful. Provided map and directions to the Ferry and made recommendations for a very nice restaurant within walking distance (it was after the onsite restaurant had closed). The shower water pressure was the best I've experienced in any hotel - a real l..."
A Traveller, Jul 2016, US
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"It was a comfortable and clean room . It was well appointed. I would stay here again."
A Traveller, Jul 2016, CA
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"Loved the TLC taken to make this a special place to stay. Great dinner and breakfast at the pub. Welcoming staff."
A Traveller, Jul 2016, US
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- Royal Athletic Park
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- Cordova Bay Golf Course
- Hatley Castle
- Esquimalt Lagoon Migratory Bird Sanctuary
- Camosun College - Interurban Campus
Where to stay in Esquimalt
Hotels in Esquimalt
Reflecting the area's history, most hotels in Esquimalt are converted traditional manor houses. English Inn is a popular 3-star Esquimalt hotel which is set in stunning gardens and just a few moments away from Victoria's buzzing Inner Harbour. This traditional Tudor-style manor house dates back to 1906 and provides well-appointed rooms, free Wi-Fi, and even a free continental breakfast. Hemingway's By the Sea is a Victorian Tudor-Style 4-star Esquimalt Bed and Breakfast, offering charming and elegantly-decorated rooms with many rooms having their own fireplace, and free Wi-Fi. Both of these hotels are also just a few blocks away from Saxe Point Park and Fleming Beach.
Things to do in Esquimalt
Saxe Point Park is a beautiful peninsula oceanfront park with jaw-dropping views of Washington State's snow-capped Olympic Mountains. The park is divided into two areas; one providing excellent spaces to enjoy a picnic and to explore the attractive gardens; the other offering trails that weave run along the ocean coastline. Esquimalt Gorge Park, formerly known as BC Electric Gorge Park, is a favorite 11.65-hectare recreation spot that locals have been enjoying since the 1860s. The Park also has a number of beautiful wooded areas with heritage trees, native plants, and even a marine life center—the Gorge Waterway Nature House. Stop by one of the district's most popular parks, Macaulay Point, where hiking, bird watching, and cycling are popular pursuits. Head to Victoria for kayaking and whale watching excursions. Victoria's well-known bouldering area, Fleming Beach, is simply a must for rock climbing enthusiasts.
Good for lovers of the great outdoors
Esquimalt reviews all talk about how this neighborhood is the perfect destination for lovers of the great outdoors, and a vacation here also means being within minutes of the key landmarks and attractions of James Bay, Saanich, and Victoria. Travelers can also enjoy the popular parks of Saxe Point, Esquimalt Gorge, and Macaulay Point which all offer picturesque walks along breathtaking trails, an immersion into the area's nature and wildlife, and even ocean tours where orcas, humpback whales, and dolphins can be seen. Don't forget to enjoy the views of Juan de Fuca Strait and the dramatic Olympic Mountains.
How to get to Esquimalt
Positioned on the southern tip of Vancouver Island, Esquimalt is easily accessible from Victoria International Airport and you could be exploring Esquimalt after a short 25-minute cab ride from the airport. Boasting more international flight routes, you can alternatively fly into Vancouver International Airport, and then hop on the ferry from Tsawwassen Ferry Terminal to Swartz Bay. Hiring a car from the airport to travel around Esquimalt is a good idea for travelers wanting easy access to Victoria's main attractions and to your Esquimalt accommodation, but public transportation is also readily available.