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How to Have a Natural Miscarriage (No D&C)Healthy Pregnancy, Baby & Child, Natural Remedies
by Guest Author Stephanie Brandt Cornais of MamaandBabyLove
I recently had a miscarriage. I chose to have a natural miscarriage and let nature take its course at home, instead of opting for a D&C.
A D&C stands for "dilation and curetagge", a surgical technique where a doctor dilates the cervix and clears the uterine lining using an instrument called a curette.
A D&C is not a pleasant experience. Avoiding it using natural methods is a highly desirable alternative!
My Natural Miscarriage Story
I was almost 12 weeks along when I miscarried, so it was almost like a mini birth. I was lucky that I have experienced a live, home birth when my daughter was born over two years ago. That, combined with past experiences with miscarriage, helped me to not be afraid of the process. I was very thankful to do everything at home. The physical process was an important part of my overall healing.
Unfortunately for me, after the worst had passed, I continued to bleed and have intermittent contractions. After two full weeks from the time that I passed the baby and placenta, I went back to my OB to get an ultrasound to see if I had retained some piece of the placenta.
I was also fighting a cold virus and showing symptoms of an internal infection in my uterus. My blood was beginning to have a foul odor to it.
The doctor confirmed that I had indeed retained some tissue. Later that day, at my family practice doctor's office, I had a vaginal exam and my blood drawn to be tested. My iron levels were great, but my white blood count was low indicating an infection was beginning to take root. My family practice doctor is very natural minded and I respect him very much, so when he suggested I take antibiotics, I listened. I hate taking antibiotics and try to avoid them as much as I can, but I felt like the antibiotics were the lesser of two evils when weighing the risks of a D&C. Looking back, if I had been in a better mindset (thinking right and not consumed with grief) I probably would have thought to pull out the natural remedies sooner to avoid having to take antibiotics. But only hindsight is 20/20, and hopefully this post will help someone else in the same situation.
He gave me three days to pass the rest of the tissue on my own or I would have to go the hospital.
I left his office thinking I may have "failed" at this pregnancy, but I am sure not going to "fail" at having a miscarriage. I pulled out my type A, over-ambitious personality and got to work figuring out all the natural remedies that help complete a miscarriage.
Over a three day period, I did many different remedies to help me expel the last of the tissue. And sure enough, it worked. I completed the miscarriage on my own and did not need a D&C.
Remedies to Encourage Natural Miscarriage
Here are the remedies I tried, in no particular order:
- Tea with Dong Quai in it. I drank Traditional Medicine Women's Moon Cycle tea. I also drank some plain Raspberry Leaf tea.
- Cinnamon. I couldn't really find exactly the dosage to take, so I just sprinkled cinnamon on everything I could. The Women's Moon Cycle tea also has some in it. It tastes great in a glass of raw milk, or on a piece of bread slathered with butter. If you want to be bad, sprinkle on some sugar and you are in for a treat. It's also great with cumin on a roast in a slow cooker.
- Acupuncture. My acupuncture doctor did an hour long treatment to help me expel everything. You can do pressure points at home if you want. They are mostly all in your ankles and shins. There is one on your hand as well, the fleshy part in between your first finger and thumb. Basically, all those points that you stay away from when you are pregnant. Yeah, well, now you get to use them. I recommend just massaging the area and whenever you find a tender spot, rub the heck out of it, even if it hurts a bit.
- Cupping. She also did a technique called cupping. Cupping is known to release congestion and help things that are stuck, physically or energetically, unstick.
- Energy healing. I had a session with an energy healer and I realized that part of the reason I was holding on to that last bit of tissue was an emotional reason. I emotionally was not ready to fully let go of the pregnancy and my body was reacting to my emotions by holding on to the last bit of tissue.
- Affirmations. After the energy healing session, I told my body over and over again to let go and release. I also repeated over and over again, "I am healed. I am healthy."
- Homeopathy. Both Sabina and Sepia are good for completing a miscarriage. I did Sepia because not only does it help expel the tissue, it helps expel the grief. My homeopathic doctor warned me that it would make me want to curl up in a ball and cry, a lot, and not to be alarmed. I sort of brushed him off and then later that day, I went to a yoga class. Showing up late to said yoga class late, the only spot left was smack dab in the middle of room, next to the instructor. Just my luck! And sure enough, it only took one sun salutation and there I was, the crazy person, silently sobbing in child's pose for the rest of class. Super embarrassing. So if you take Sepia, stay home!
- Herbs. Black and Blue Cohosh. I had these on hand and was going to do this at the last moment. These herbs are so disgusting, that I really did not want to have to drink it. Luckily I didn't have to. These are the same herbs you can help to induce a full term pregnancy. They are like a natural version of the hospital given Pitocin. Also, a friend just told me, that Black and Blue Cohosh can be found homeopathically, and they are called Caulphyllum and Cimicifuga.
It's been over a week now since my "deadline" and I stopped bleeding on that day. I have had no more pain or blood, which I am very, very happy about. I can finally start to move on emotionally now that the physical process is done.
I so hope that this helps anyone going through a miscarriage and looking for information about natural miscarriage (since there is not very much online about it) and how to help complete it on your own.
If you would like to read more about my natural miscarriage story, click here.
Stephanie Brandt Cornais a Licensed Massage Therapist, Certified Itsy Bitsy Yoga Facilitator, Certified Doula and a Birthing From Within Mentor.
She blogs at MamaandBabyLove
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Comments (173)
I wish things could be turned around in people's minds. Why don't people "adopt" or take in the pregnant teenager. Take care of th mother and father so they can finish school like normal. Let them stay after the baby is born. The childless couple would be doing a huge and honorable service of keeping a family together. Please see these young people as children who still need parents love and help.
Thankyou so much for sharing your experience. I am 12 weeks and found out that my baby stopped growing at 9 weeks. 2 days ago I started bleeding and constant cramping today, but no sign of baby yet. Instinctively I want to go through this whole process on a physical and emotional level. Love your natural therapy ideas and will try to use some of these to get things moving along. I send you all much love and peace.
Stephanie, Thank you for this, it helped me when I first realised that I had miscarried, during the 12 week scan. I was devastated and to make matters worse, when I took the medication to help me miscarry naturally it didn't work. I knew that I was holding on, I could just tell. I had been drinking Black Cohosh, raspberry leaf and using affirmations but I knew I couldn't let go. I had the D&C under local anesthetic and it was fine, I didn't feel I needed a general for it and I didn't find it painful with gas and air. After the procedure I went for a session of reiki and after that for the first time I actually bled and passed a piece of what looked like placenta. However, when I went back for a scan to check it had worked there is still a piece in there. I'm still drinking the tea but it looks like I will have to have a further procedure. I wish I had the money to get all the natural treatments I would like; I wish alternative therapies were more available to people on a low income.
There's no such thing as a "natural miscarriage"
There very much is a natural miscarriage. When your fetus dies it can take up to four weeks for your body to recognize it. So you walk around for a month with a dead fetus in you while you are waiting for your body to do what it's supposed to do. So taking some natural herbs to help your body along is 100% a natural miscarriage. Know what your soaking of before you post uninformed comments Nunyah!!
I was raped and abortion is illegal in my country and you're telling me I'm selfish? I'm 16 and I'm not ready for a baby.
What country are you in? My husband and I are in the process of losing our second and last child. My husband got a vasectomy shortly after I became pregnant. Someone like me would love to adopt and give my little boy the chance to be a big brother.
im so sorry that you were raped no one should ever have to endure that. Even if you weren't rape it should be your decision to either keep the baby or not and no one has any right to pass judgment on you!!
In no mean's do I mean any disrespect I randomly came across your comment, I'm sorry for all you have had to suffer.
After reading your comment my only throught is how have you coped, are you well?
I'm not even sure you'll view this.
All the
I cannot thank you enough!!! By God's grace I found your article and it helped me get through my miscarriage, naturally and quickly…at home! me who had never had a natural birth before!
Thank you so much for sharing this! I am in the same situation, its now almost 4 weeks after a sad miscarriage and doc found I had not released all of it. It was wonderful to google and find this. Not only am I not the only one this has happened to, but your list is fantastic. I am drinking red raspberry leaf tea, doing some inner work, and seeing an acupuncturist tomorrow *THANK YOU*
I'm a little blown away or did I miss something?!!! I read comments of people asking how to end their pregnancy. How incredibly rude and selfish to ask someone how to cause a miscarriage that couldn't stop theirs. I just miscarried tonight and let me tell you it is a very heartbreaking experience. I too was about 12 weeks and to see my little baby, his arms and tiny fingers, his legs and tiny little toes. Hands together as if in prayer tucked under his oh so tiny little head appearing to be cozy and sleeping like precious little babies do yet knowing that that was the most I would ever get to see of him that this was it, it was over. I would never see him laugh or hear him cry. I would never hold him in my arms and kiss his little cheek. The dream of seeing him grow and blossom into a young handsome man, hopefully one just like his father, was gone, shattered. The joy he would bring us the love we would give him all taken away with no explanation. AND YOU DARE ASK "How can I kill my baby?" REALLY?! May God help you.
I think you're missing the point. It's not about wanting to have a miscarriage, she's asking how to have a safe miscarriage. Instead of using instruments and drugs. She already miscarried, this is info to help pass it instead of using drugs. So you misunderstood.
I believe she is referring to some of the comments below vvv and not the article itself. As someone who has also just miscarried, I can agree that some of them are inappropriate for this post.
In my opinion, Stephanie is writing to women currently facing the emotional and physical side effects that accompany the loss of an unborn child. She is aiding those who are searching for natural remedies to pass the miscarriage so they are not forced to undergo this process surgically (D&C).
Her advice is extremely helpful and I do believe "k" feels the same way as myself. What is difficult to see is the women commenting on such an article, asking for advice on how to induce a miscarriage themselves. These tips are intended for women who have been faced with unexpected loss and are heartbroken, like k and myself. So it reasonable for us to see those comments as selfish.
Sorry for your loss but there are some people who can't afford to pay for Dr visits and already have a young child to take care of and got pregnant again on accident! How can you judge other people you have no idea what and why they are asking. For you to judge someone is wrong! What gives you the right? YOU dont have the right…
I'm sorry for your loss… but i think you really need to think about what you write before you write it, or you need a serious brain re-wiring… women have the right to their own bodies. There are several different reasons for a woman wanting to induce a miscarriage. Every woman's situation is different and you shouldn't be telling people that miscarrying is a bad thing. using myself as an example, i'm 19 years old. My partner and i ALWAYS use double protection. I use the pill, and he uses condoms, yet somehow, i ended up pregnant. I am nowhere near ready to have a child! i have no money and i study full time. do you think it would be appropriate for someone in my situation to give birth to a child? do you think i could support that child? if you answered no to those, i have gotten my point across. TO ALL MY FELLOW SISTAS OUT THERE, don't let a small-minded, bigoted person make you think that it's a 'sin' to 'kill' a baby. It would be more cruel to give birth and be unable to support your child.
What about adoption? I'm only saying this not out of judgment or anything negative, but so many woman CAN'T have children and could love your baby! Trust me when I say you will hold onto the feeling of terminating your baby forever.
girl everything happens for a reason, and u being pregnant is not a mistake and Gods will in ur life all u need to do is thank God for what has happened and ask for his guidance.God has a solution to every problem, just kneel down and tell him all about it
Mommy to be
This is pathetic! Your saying you donate your time to full studying and school but if you can make time for sex , you can make time for a baby ! You enjoy the sex but not the blessing of carrying a child !? You play you pay. So many woman dont get the beautiful honor of being able to have and hold a child of your own when theres woman out here that shed tears every night because they cant carry . And the major of you "woman" take it for granted and just throw it away like having a baby is a problem … its a shame what this world has come too !
Well considering sex takes maybe an hour out of your day and a baby is like a full time job, sorry to inform you but no she doesn't have time for a baby, she doesn't have the money for a baby, and even if she were to give the baby up for adoption she probably can't afford the hospital bill either. So why don't you stop criticizing her when you know nothing about her situation.
God bless u, and thanks for sticking up for those of us going through miscarriage and also for those poor baby's inside mother's who don't want them. My comment is a bit late, but after reading this, I shook my head. I'm going through a missed miscarriage so my beautiful angel baby is still within me, and it's distressing. I booked in for a d and c as I want it over with, so I can Bury my baby and try to find peace. Also I'm sorry for your loss, and sorry if your fine now and I've brought it up. God bless you. X
Don't throw your grief around and push it down on others. Everyone is in different situations. Some women are miscarrying and grieving the loss of their baby and some are trying to be responsible and not bring a child into this cruel world when they don't have the means or capacity to love and protect them as every child deserves. Speaking as one who have seen the atrocities inflicted on innocent babies just because they were born to mothers who were selfish and irresponsible. Just because you miscarried doesn't mean you should shove that grief and your personal situation onto everyone else who might not want a baby. You sound like an immature child. "that's not fair!", Because you wanted a baby and miscarried and this or that person doesn't but won't miscarry and chooses to intentionally end it. Life isn't fair and yea, cruelly ironic. You want to make an argument against abortion, then do so logically, but don't go attack someone with your grief. Honestly, that's a disgusting exploitation of your grief. Quit being so judgmental. That is what is so damn wrong with everyone in this world is that no one can look outside their own perspective. No one can even try to be objective and try seeing life from another's shoes. One woman's situation might be drastically different from yours! IN WAYS THAT YOU OBVIOUSLY COULD NEVER IMAGINE! How ignorant, shallow, and stuck up you sound. EMPATHY! COMPASSION! Try for that!! Don't use your grief as a reason to be selfish and callous towards someone else. Yes, maybe them bringing this up on this article is wrong and insensitive, but I know they did not come here with bad intentions. They were brought here by their damn search engine and innocently assumed that's what this article would help them with! Whereas you are intentionally attacking these women! I understand your grieving, but still, I get the feeling that even when not in grief you are a selfish and self-centered small minded judgmental and bitter woman. You know, just because you couldn't have a baby, doesn't mean that someone else should! What if one of those woman is addicted to heroin and dating some psychopath who would go on to beat and torture that poor little life you were so high and righteous about!!!?? Wouldn't you think it'd be better for them to go to God sooner than have to experience any amount of suffering?? You need a little more faith woman!! On top of practicing some perspective and EMPATHY, you need to let go and let god. Trust that HE is handling everything and that everything happens for a reason. I can think of a million more gentle and LESS JUDGMENTAL ways that you could have said something to these women about the sensitive nature of this article! Instead you choose to condemn them and act as if you are somehow better than them? why because you miscarried naturally and they didn't? And that is the sum total of any woman's character??? Wow. You need to not only open your mind, but open your damn heart. Seriously. By the way, I am speaking as one who has always struggled with pregnancies, having five miscarriages, two of which were in the second trimester, but God still found a way to bless me with two beautiful little boys. I hope that gives you some comfort and hope, that you too can still try again. Even though I don't care for your attitude or judgments, I can and do empathize and have COMPASSION for any situation that ANY woman might be going through, be it a hard miscarriage, or a pregnancy that is unwanted. Because I am only human, and know that I am as imperfect as anyone else on this planet and so I will NOT pass judgment on no one. No matter how much I may disagree or dislike that person. I wish you and ANY woman on here the best. I hope that there are other's on here who have more open hearts and will not take another person's life or situation so personally. Someone going through such a tough time and decision as that deserves more support if indeed you do not want them to abort the pregnancy. I can promise you that alienating and judging them, making them feel lower and lesser than you, does nothing to help either that woman or the life inside her.
Thank you so much sweetie. Some one said it. They're also abusing God too even though I'm an atheist I know that when you use God to convince other or to use it as an excuse to judge. Others it's wrong. I'm 18 and me and my fiancée have been together for 3 years and we use protection and I might be preggers. I'm not ready for a kid, I have cervical cancer
Too and I don't it. Adoption doesn't help, the child has almost no chance in getting a family. But thank you for standing up for us against the closed minded pro birthers thank you
Perfectly written. To be brutally honest, in my opinion, I wouldn't want a judgmental and close minded person raising another judgmental, close minded person. It's a never ending circle of this type of thinking that causes and ultimately terminates the advancement of women's rights.
Those that want to say adoption over and over, if there are so many couples that can't conceive and overwhelmingly want to adopt, why are there so many children lost in the system longing for a loving family? Are you only willing to adopt a newborn? That also makes an ignorant and rhetorical circle. And those commenting repeatedly about "God" and how wrong and "sinful" abortion, induced miscarriage etc are, are frighteningly close minded. I mean, you believe in immaculate conception, 2 of every living thing fitting and living on an ark for 40 days, a man being eaten by a fish and spit back up, a man being reborn, then reincarnated as a bowl of crackers and a carafe of red wine, that you then digest! more or less…. "magic". These women's stories are REAL. They're emotions are REAL. Laws are REAL. Consequences of not following these laws that limit our rights are REAL.
I'm sorry for those that have lost a child, I too have. It's an awful thing. But I applaud you that have overcome it and applaud those that understand the reality of our world and believe that no one can make any decision about your body for you, won't let others influence your thinking, and to be the best you in every way.
Hi I think you misunderstood something. Sometimes abortion is the only option. I am pregnant 16 weeks exactly today and yesterday I found out that my baby is so so sick. Intestines, liver, and bowel is outside. the belly didn't close. In addition to it they confirmed heart defect and cleft and one eye was somewhere. Tell me please then what should I do. Let her die in my belly and then deliver her? Maybe I should do the procedure? Imagine her life??? To me she will be ALWAYS the most beautiful amazing child but what quality of life she would have? it is not about my life but the child so please don't judge please!!!! Do you think I don't want her to be normal??? you have no idea how much we want her but with her health complication she has only 5% of surviving. the longest time she might live till month maybe two. She already measures two weeks behind her normal physical development. so now please tell me what would you do????????????????????????
Anna, I'm so sorry for what you are going through. You have to do what you think is right and that doesn't always mean that you should have the baby. If the baby is so sick, maybe it is better to not give her a life of suffering. Some people are so pro life but they have now idea what some of these babies go through as someperspective said. I know this is eleven days after your post so I hope that what ever you do or did, that you are ok with it.
In my opinion, some babies should never be born because giving them a life of pure hell is just wrong. Who are people to judge a woman that loves her baby enough to not give her/him a life of pain and suffering. You have to be at peace with your decision and don't let anyone make you feel like it's wrong. You are the mother and you know in your heart what is best. God bless you Anna. Be at peace.
Thank you so much for this useful information. I, too, went through a miscarriage ordeal and many of these remedies assisted me in my healing process. A year and a half on from my miscarriage, I still had major discomfort in my lower right quadrant, no idea if it was my ovary, fallopian tube (possible ectopic pregnancy) or my uterus. Nonetheless, I have recently been doing castor oil packs and the pain in my lower right quadrant has dramatically decreased.
It is said that castor oil helps break down scar tissue and fibrosis, boosts the immune system and is most beneficial for the liver and digestive system. There is nothing else that could have made such a dramatic difference in the pain that I felt. Intuition told me that it was some sort of scar tissue remaining from the miscarriage and this seems to have possibly shown that that was true.
I thought I'd just share some information with others experiencing the same pain and/or discomfort and in addition to all of the above, I would strongly suggest castor oil packs.
See the following link: http://www.edgarcayce.org/are/holistic_health/data/thcast1.html
Hi I just wanted to say to anyone needing this info that cinnamon the spice will have absolutely no effect on inducing a miscarriage. You have to use the pills which have completely different properties. The elements needed for this purpose are removed for the spice form. Good luck to all.
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Good day to you, Stephanie.
But it's not so good for my fiancé and it has been that way for some time. And I need to know what's wrong and what can I do to save her.
My fiancé is pregnant. (her last menstrual was 5th April so I am guessing 4 weeks pregnant). But for the past three weeks or so, she has been:
– vomiting (A LOT)
– feeling nauseous
– having on and off fevers
– dizziness
– cold sweat
– terrible headaches
– depression
– loss of appetite due to vomiting whatever she ate
– having insomnia
– feeling fearful
WHAT IS GOING ON? She is now so weak that I am afraid of loosing her, I know pregnancies are difficult, but this is something else…please help me help her.
I need to know if these are miscarriage symptoms. Please advice…we can't afford the prejudice of doctors here and the consultations alone are cut-throat without any helpful advice and soulless perceptions.
Regards & prayers for hope from you,
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Hi, I am almost 5 weeks and need to know how much cinnamon you ate and how much raspberry tea u drank. I am not ready for a baby and this information has really helped
I'm sure he or she will be a huge gift to whomever gets to have them. May God bless you and your child. I hope the father turns his life around and helps support the birth of your gift.
Hi I wanted to know did it work for you
I need to know how to enduse a miscarriage.safely and as painless as possible.
I need to know how to start it and finish it. I I am in need of information. As much as I can find about how to cause/enduse a miscarriage safely. And naturaly.
If you know how please tell me!
Im about 1-2 weeks from when I was suposed to have my period but it never happened. I havent taken a pregnancy test yet. But will soon.
I need information now so I can be prepared. Please respond as soon as possible.
im pregnant and i dont know what to do im doing the parsley but is not working what should i do?
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Hi my question is how is sex after a miscarriage or during miscarriage
Hi i would like to know the same answer.is it bad to have sex while passing your miscarraige on your own?
Hi there I'm 18 turning 19 and well I was in a foster home and was put under pressure to have sex and I'm not proud of that but I really have a problem I just got out of school and living with a friend and have no relatives and no job yet and I'm 2m pregnant but I really don't want an abortion and I don't want to go thou the whole pregnansy sickle and I don't have money for a doctor please help me
I'm confused…do you do these things because you WANT to have a miscarriage or because your baby already died and you're trying to pass it naturally?
i was wondering can i missccary at 27 weeks?
I had sex around 3 weeks ago and the guy I did it with left me for another woman, and I we never speak. I think I might be pregnant because a week or two we had sex I been feeling sick, wanting to throw up, but never did. plus I am now 2 days late… I know if I'm pregnant I should tell him but he told me if I'm pregnant he will leave, and I have a new man in my life I cant have a baby with the old guy. both financial and personal reasons.. please help me!!
I was told last week 9 weeks my babys heart beat had stoped, It look me a whole week to misscarry naturally, it has been so heartbreaking having to deal with it all let alone the awful pain I've had, it had been such a horrible experience for me physically an emotionally but to all u girls that are writing that you want to try to misscarry a healthy pregnancy are sick in the head, there's hundreds of women like myself that would have given anythink just to have a healthy and safe pregnancy and then there's silly girls like you that want to basically kill a healthy life u should be absolutely ashamed to even get the chance of becoming parents or better still get you fella to put something on the end of it, made me feel sick reading some of them comments when theres women like my self grieving of the loss we have had to go trew when we wanted it so bad n then these silly girls that want to know ways to misscarry a healthy pregnancy that's got me so angry!!
You don't know what their situations are. Mind your own business and don't judge them.
Hi im on the same situation..im 5 weeks then i was told the heart beat had stopped . What do i do naturally?
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I'm trying to miscarry but don't want to go to the doctor I want it to be a secret type thing, I know this sounds bad but I need help please
Thank you for posting this – I wish I had found this slightly earlier.
I was diagnosed with a missed miscarriage in 8 weeks, but the baby probably died in 6; and I wanted to expel naturally, no D&C. So, I did – no hospital, no painkillers, me screaming in pain and with hemorrhage – but it was ok, after 24 hours, or so it seemed. 2 weeks after that at a check-up they said some tissues is left. They put me on Mesoprostol to expel it, because I refused D&C but I have the feeling that I didn't pass everything, plus a bad smell started to form. The doctor put me on strong antibiotics – more like a prevention. I also saw a homeopath who gave me Sabina – searching for this I found this post. My family is worried I'm doing something bad to my body by taking homeopathic remedies. I hope not. I'll follow your advice even if it's a little late…
so, Thank you
Thank you for posting this! I have been searching the web for days, looking for quality information on natural miscarriage. I'm only about 5 weeks, and I've been hoping to find something soon out of concern that the process would be more difficult on the body if I attempted a natural miscarriage too late.
I was stunned that it was so hard to find this information and almost gave up looking! I'm so glad I searched again.
I just wanted to say that there are 2 sides to posting about natural miscarriages there's a + and a – first its great that this information is out there for the good hearted people who need this and 2nd this information in the wrong cold blooded hands could help someone to naturally abort there unborn and call it a miscarriage…
I am having a miscarriage at home as I type this. I was 10 weeks, 4 days but my baby died a few weeks earlier. The pain has been so intense, with no reward at the end like a normal delivery. I have searched the net for stories from otherwomen but it's as if there is a stigma attached to miscarriage. Also, nobody tells you that you will be passing some nearly unidentifiable pieces of who knows what. From the pain to the things that expel to the noises it is a traumatic experience. And the grief and guilt are just beginning to set in although I know I did everything I could to be healthy.
hello im Mayra pregnant im 11 weeks but I need the exact steps of what exactly did u take
I had a miscarriage two days ago. After hoping and crossing fingers for a month, I felt it the day before. It was four weeks. We were out with my boyfriends entire family after his brothers graduation. It happened in the bathroom at a restaurant. Its helpful to know what other women are dealing with and that its okay to let it happen naturally. How do I know when its all over?
This actually worked for.me the same day.
Are these remedies safe to use while breastfeeding?
I had an ultrasound today at 9 weeks 3 days and there was no heartbeat. My doctor said the baby measured 6 1/2 weeks, so after a few days of bloodwork over the next week, if my hCG levels are indeed going down, I'm going to induce my miscarriage. The idea of carrying around my baby that no longer has a heartbeat while I wait for my body to figure it out is so heartbreaking and I'm ready to get through this. Thank you for this guest post, and thank you Stephanie for sharing this information that is so hard to find!
I am almost 8 weeks pregnant. My whole family was in the room for the ultrasound last week and saw our baby and the strong heartbeat. I began bleeding a little a couple of days ago and went to the ER tonight with my husband. The ultrasound shows no more heart seat and the baby died and is still inside of me. I feel so sad and numb right now as I wait for my baby to come out of me. I am opting for the miscarriage to happen omits own
Im 10 weeks pregnant and a mother of a 2 year old boy, i've been so stress out so depress, and so lazy that i cant even pay attention to my son and it hurts me, this pregnancy is like killing me i throw up everything i eat , i cant even smell the food or even think about cause i'll get so nausea and i dont like it
I want to know if its 100% . . ?
THIS ARTICLE IS NOT A "HOW TO" for inducing an abortion!!!! CAN PEOPLE READ????
This article is about avoiding a D&C IF you are already miscarrying a baby. It's a gross lack of respect you show when you come on here (you & others) asking for advice to end unwanted pregnancies since this is NOT what this is about. This is about having a natural miscarriage at home when you are NATURALLY miscarrying.
NOTHING in this article is about "how to end a pregnancy".
Thank you!
It's similar wording though attracts many people interested in the latter so the comments are a perfectly appropriate place for them to reach out to one another. If the comment isn't relevant to you, don't read it.Simple as that. It's a "gross lack of respect" to mindlessly judge the understandable and critical questions of other women in need related to pregnancy – they clearly were asking others, not the woman that wrote the article. That's why it was in the comments section rather than an email directly to the author. Like I said, if it doesn't pertain to you, move on. It's no reason to rant about their questions to others.
One thing… orgasms. I was told to expect the m/c to take 3 weeks based on my HCG levels, I had 3-4 orgasms a day, I used a hitachi magic wand, always works. When I finally did miscarry at home a week later (twins, one 5 weeks one 7wk4d), the first chorionic sac and gestational sac were within a few hours of the cervical opening type cramps, then cramping continued for 6 hours with a lot of blood and not much else. At that point, I had another orgasm, which helped with the pain (I know of people who do this in childbirth) but within 15 minutes the second sac passed, and bleeding dropped to spotting, cramping to nearly nothing. I figure… why take a drug to contract when there are much better and gentler ways to make that happen yourself.. .that not only don't hurt, but give you some endorphins to take you through some of the difficulty.
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Thnk you very mch for this post. It has been three weeks now since I had the miscarriage, and I am still bleeding off and on, just as soon as I think it might be over, I start spotting or bleeding again. I wish to stop the bleeding naturally. I went in a week and half ago to see what my hcg levels were and they were in the 300's. I have had 5 children, so I am not terribly upset, but I wish to move passe this already and be able to safely have intercourse with my husband now. Will Black Cohosh tea be sufficent to drink or does it have to be black and blue cohosh together? And what does raspberry tea do? These are the only two things that I have on hand.
Do you have to be 12 weeks to do the home miscarriage or can I do it 16weeks?
Thank for providing this information! I've had to have two d&c's in the past and really want to avoid having a third. Your suggestions have definitely given me hope that I can continue this process naturally.
It does sadden me to see that some women have reached a point of desperation that they feel the need to end an unwanted pregnancy. I hope they would seek help from crisis pregnancy services to see what their options are. I can't imagine the difficulty of handling an unplanned pregnancy but I do know that you need much more support than this article can provide.
Good day. I started to bleed lastnight. I know I'm losing my baby because it's my 3rd. I'm mad at my husband for leaving me alone to go through hell again. Is it normal?
Umm.. I hope you know it can be called a " natural miscarriage" really all it is is a hippie technique of abortion. I can understand if it was a product of rape, but if you have one because your not ready, apparently God thinks you are.
Sorry misunderstood ignore that comment. Still true though
First off I'm an atheist and second I'm a 19 year old living with her parents, student and cashier, my fiancée is an amputee and works 2 jobs and we have very little in the way of funds, I have cervical cancer and keep in mind there are far worse situations that people are in, and you think that "God" should be a reason for them to put themselves through emotional financial physical and mental hell? They have their reasons
im 10 weeks. just found out today that there is no heartbeat, the baby is only 8 weeks developed aroundabout… im hoping that this is easier then a d&s….
I'm 5 months pregnant and I need this baby out I'm a single mother of two.. Findout late that I was pregnant but the only thing to do at the time was D&S… I don't want to do it, I have been on the internet day and night to get infor of how to get rid of it naturally I so glad I found this and I HOPE IT WORKS FOR ME.
hey Kemisha did it work?
You're an idiot with a reading comprehension problem. This is about avoiding having a D&C when you've had a miscarriage, NOT how to cause a miscarriage as a few other idiots before you have thought as well.
all u fuckers are baby killers i hope u know that
You're an idiot with a reading comprehension problem. This is about avoiding having a D&C when you've had a miscarriage, NOT how to cause a miscarriage as a few other idiots before you have thought as well.
Hello. i am sorry for your loss. I have a few questions if someone could please hel me. So my story is……I have 5 beautiful babies at home and love them to death. I am in the process of having an at home miscarriage. It started 3 days ago when I had bad sharp taring pain on my left side. The doctor told me I had a strained muscle or pulled one. but did a pee test and then sent me for a emgr ultrasound and blood work. At this point i had no idea I was prego. I was told by the ultraound tech that everything looked fine and that i could pick up my results tomorrow at the doc office. I went to the doctors office the folling day and picked up my test results. Still in pain and now bleeding lightly (thought it was my peroid early) i read the test. Not fully understanding i took the results to the doc right away. The test came back 6 weeks 3 days sac, no yolk, no heartbeat, tisuse mass seen within sac not form fetal pole. so I knew right away. it was a shocker. It truns out i was 10 weeks along but the baby did not develope and had passed/died at 6 weeks. It showed I had a hemerage between the plasenta and utrin wall. so after i found out i was upset on not knowing but not sure how to feel in all this. like i just find out and this is how i found out. so yesturday started the heavy bleeding and passing blood clots. woke up at 3am to find my bed covered in blood and bad cramping. i ended up passing somthing a bit bigger then a tennis ball. i have pased many clots and am in alot of pain. so my question is when does this end? what else should i expect? Y dont i have any feeling? and what should i do? pleae help me. thanks
s for this info. im about 3 mnths preg i tried the vit c just made me ill i tried blue cohosh didnt have affect. now im 4 mnths and desperate to try sommat else. i have 2 boys butreally cant afford another and a condom broke. i really dont want to do this. its depressing me that things might not work on me
Shannie Love
i had a miscaradge about 3 years ago, and havent been able to get pregnant since, ive been trying to add a new additon to the family, i havent had any chance on having a baby of my own yet, when i went to the doctors and found out i had a miscaradge they told me i already let everything out, and i didnt need a miscaradge, i havent had any luck getting pregnant, should i get a dnc or what are your ideas on helping me get pregnant.
Brenda Scott
Having a miscarriage is a really sad part of every woman's life especially if you are expecting and so excited with that baby inside you..But Whatever happens it is always God's Will if he will give more time for us parents to be with our children. I'm so sorry for all the Parents who lost their angels..just be happy they are all with our Divine Lord..
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Hi I'm 8 weeks pregnant and I want a natural miscarriage, a year ago I had a miscarriage and it was horrifying. I'm an Arab and a Muslim so being pregnant can stone me. In order to get a dr to miscarriage me I had to be in the dark with a spotline and a doctor pushing his tools in me while I had a towel in my mouth. I never could recover from that. Now I'm pregnant again and I want to do it at home. Can I get more tips ?
I have a two year old boy and his sister passed in April of last year, now I find that I am 6 weeks along and only just turning 17, do you have any remedies to my situation that are less costly but still natural?
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i had tryed all these remiedies that it says above why is nothing working? i tried from parsely to that tea to black cohosh to everything..what else can i do to have a miscarraige,im sorry to all yall that had them. but me personaly i dnt want a child nor bring one in, i was rape and didnt know i was pregnant so i dnt want a child that way…can some one help me plz. im bout 5 months and tryed everything
I do not believe any of these remedies will induce a miscarriage if you have a healthy pregnancy. I am very sorry you were raped, but this far along in your pregnancy your best bet would be to consider other options, like putting the baby up for adoption. That said, this probably is not the place to air out the fact that you WANT to have a miscarriage… can't you find some kind of rape crisis website for this? Not trying to be insensitive to your trauma, but I find your posting this here slightly appalling. Maybe Google a rape crisis hotline in your area…
It sounds like you're in a bit of a crisis… please feel free to email me if you would like to talk… firstname.lastname@example.com
Also, I want it to be done and over with, I wish they could have fit me in for the d and c Friday so that I didn't have to go through a mini labor. If I had found out sooner I would have definitely opted for the suction d and c right away so that we can move forward and try again. For me there is no use in dwelling on a baby that obviously was not viable and not meant to be here. That might sound harsh and insensitive, but that is how I feel. I am certainly disappointed and saddened by this loss, but I want to focus on trying again, not what might have been.
I went for my first OB appt Thursday at 10 weeks and found that my baby had no heartbeat and had stopped growing at 6 weeks. Two days before my appt I had light spotting, but was told a little light brown blood was OK. It turns out my body was starting to m/c. My doc recommended the d and c and I wanted it… I am actually going to the hospital in the morning, but I don't know if I will have to have the procedure as I believe I passed the baby Friday night. It was awful. Incredibly painful- reminiscent of labor pains and because of procedure tomorrow I could not take any NSAIDs for pain management. Part of me is glad that my body handled it naturally, but I do not think I would do it naturally again, it was just too painful and somewhat traumatic.
This girl think she prego I pray to god she is not and I'm not ready to be a dad so what should I do ladies please give me answers. Should I abort the child idk god help me.
I could ask you to imagine your father writing the same email. Your vote would surely be DON'T DO IT DAD!
There are many options that do not include abortion.
1 – Maybe she's not pregnant. Wait and see before deciding further.
2 – If she is, she can give the baby up for adoption. Many families can't have a baby and this would be a blessing to them.
3 – Maybe she wants to keep the baby, and as a father I can't imaging life without my kids. It's the best!
4 – There is nothing that says you have to kill the baby so you can have freedom. You could just take the coward's way and leave. But then you would always wonder "What if?" Of course, abortion leaves you with the same question.
— Clint
This is a moment of truth for you, and how you react to it will determine what kind of man you are. This is, quite literally, one of those moments in life that separates the men from the boys.
The important thing for you to remember is not to panic. And don't take this out on your girlfriend. You both had a hand in creating this pregnancy- and you both have to deal with the consequences. She is going through a lot more physical trauma than you are right now, and just as much emotional upset. Your job is to be there for her, and be supportive to her.
You should calmly sit down, take a deep breath, and have a talk together about what you both want for the future. You are going to have to face this with courage and a sense of responsibility. She may agree with you that an abortion is the best route right now- in which case you should look together for a nearby Planned Parenthood. You should go with her to the appointments and give her a lot of emotional support as she makes this decision. DO NOT make this about your own insecurities. You can deal with them later. Right now, you should take care of her through this process- it is not an easy one.
If she chooses to have the baby- you are going to have to be a dad. That is not as terrible as it sounds. You will simply have to work together to find a way to make this work. This doesn't mean you have to live together or get married or date for the rest of your lives… it doesn't mean you can't go to college or will never hang with your friends again. It simply means that you have to take part in your child's life and contribute to raising him/her. A coward would run away. A child would throw a temper tantrum and blame his girlfriend for everything. A man would be compassionate, kind and bravely face and accept the consequences of the decisions he makes in life. If you choose the first two reactions, you will hate yourself later. If you chose to be a man, you can at least be proud of who you are and how you handled yourself. Your life doesn't end because of fatherhood.. It just requires you to grow.
Picture the man you admire most in your life, and then ask yourself what he would do.
when is the best time to start the natural miscarriage? and do we have to do all the techniques?
Thank you for posting this. I have had recurrent pregnancy loss. I've been pregnant at this point a total of 9 times & have two living children. It is hard in a multitude of ways, but not knowing & understanding your REAL options only makes it harder. At one point I was seeing a reproductive endocrinologist when I was told the baby was not viable. He pressed for me to have a D&C right away, even though the baby had not yet passed even. Then the pressing turned into fulll out bullying. He went so far as to try to claim that I was risking my future fertility because fetal tissue could "fuse to my uterus" and nee to be surgically removed & cause scarring, etc" It was truly horrifying IMO the lengths he went to to try to ge tme to agree to it. I am a pretty sassy strong wille women & I even ended up finally agreeing to do the D&C & signed a waiver & aid I'd call back to set up the time JUST to get him to shut up so I could go home. I had no intention of making the appointment (and believe me, Dh was confused when I satrted to agree) – I just didn't want to argue anymore. I felt very alone then. I belonged to an online support group for women with loss & even there, nearly no one understood WHY I'd wait a month to allow things ot happen naturally. So many of them not only went along with D&C's but had requested them, just wanting it to "be over". That isn't how I am though. They were sweet, but also a bit pressuring in their oewn ways as they had fears about it as well & we worried for me.
While I KNOW that D&C's are sometimes needed….in all the years I talked to women online about loss (about 6 years or so – daily) and HUNDREDS of women – some who had one loss, some who had many, the most common time I've heard of women NEEDING D&C's for hemmorhage has been among women who had D&C's in the first place & continued to bleed after. I think that is much more common than women realize. And if you have recurrent loss, a significant factor is also to consider Asherman's syndrome. Multiple D&C's over time can scar the surface of the uterus & cause hardening, which can completely render a woman infertile. It is NOT common thankfully, but it is a real & horrible risk that should be thoroughly understood when making your decisions.
I too have written in finite details abou tmy losses (this was several years back now) and shared it on loss forums. My hope is that someone out there will find some strength, wisdom & research in there tha tallows them toconfidently make the choice that is right for them & feel supported when they do so.
Much love to all mommas out there – ones of angels & ones of living children, We're all just trying to do the best we can & sharing our stories with one another makes it easier to do that.
hey can someone tell me if i am pregnant or not????
i am 19 yrs old gal.. i had ma periods on 28Th June morning.. and i had sex with ma boyfriend at 1st July early morning around 4am.. after that even we had sex some more times that day.. i took an contraceptive pill(i pill) at 2Nd July morning around 11am… i am really tensed that i am pregnant or not.. is there any chance for me to be pregnant????
Katie Rose Alexander
I'm sorry for your loss. I've had five miscarriages, all natural. I wish you would choose a different image to accompany this article. That is a very pregnant woman, and if she lost that baby I doubt she would call it a miscarriage.
Thank you. The picture didn't bother me, but that's a good point. I didn't pick the picture.
This is a little off topic, but I'm hoping the folks reading this may have the insight to help. A friend of mine is ready to pop any day. The problem is, she was pregnant with twins. One heartbeat stopped at around 5 months. The parents don't really have an affiliation with any religion, and they have to deal with the death/miscarriage of one child while they celebrate the joy of the other.
Any suggestions for what to do regarding the one who didn't make it? A ceremony? Naming? They're not even so sure what to do regarding a burial.
I know that Catholics do funerals for miscarriages, so I would ask a church they feel comfortable with about a funeral. Or they could create their own ceremony to honor the baby to give them some peace and closure.
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I had two miscarriages three months apart. The first was very "by the book," and passed naturally within a week of when I started bleeding. Of course it was very painful, but well, it is childbirth. By the time I had the second, I didn't have the patience to "wait it out" and the bleeding was coming off and on. I might have no bleeding and then suddenly my clothes were soaked through. I was afraid to go out in public and I was also concerned at times about how much blood I was losing. I passed a small amount of tissue but I knew it wasn't enough and I began to wonder if I would just be like this forever. That continued for a week and then I had a d&c. Emotionally, wanted to get it "over with." The d&c was not traumatic at all. It was nice to not have as much pain as I had with the first one and to get it done. Even after everything had passed with the first, I continued to bleed/cramp for weeks. With a d&c, the bleeding is usually done in a day or two. I will admit that the d&c confuses your body a little hormonally and may cause postpartum depression while a natural miscarriage weans your body off the pregnancy hormones more gently. It's a very personal decision and depends on your circumstances. Some women really need to get past the physical part of the whole thing quickly so they can begin healing emotionally while others may feel better hanging on to the baby as long as possible. Also, the natural way doesn't always work. We do live in a fallen world, after all. I think natural remedies and medical science both have a place in our lives. God has given them both to us to use responsibly.
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Amen! I totally agree.
Tracey Stirling
Wow I am just getting back to checking my emails today (Sunday) as on Friday, the day this post came out, I was having a miscarriage at almost 11 weeks pregnant. The night before I rushed in to my accupuncturist when I started mild bleeding. She gave me a treatment and some herbs a long with a lot of hope and encouragement. Unfortunately the next day I miscarried. The following day I went in for more accupuncture and more herbs and feel that everything has passed. I am barely beleeding anymore, do not feel sick and am not cramping. My accupuncturist told me I have a severly low kidney yang deficiency which translates in western medicine to low progesterone and acoording to her the number one cause of miscarriage. I am shocked and stunned as I had been doing traditional cooking for over 5 years and then went on GAPS 2 months before getting pregnant and continued it during pregnancy and felt healthier that even before.
Sarah do you know what foods can help with low progesterone? I guess in spite of feeling so good I still have a lot of work to do. Before GAPS I do have a history of long time asthma medication usage so I would guess this played a big part. Fortunately my accupuncturist specializes in pregnancy and fertility issues and has a protocol of treatments to follow once my cycles start up again that along with herbs she says has helped many women in her practice to carry healthy babies full term. In the meantime any suggestions on foods to eat that would help as well would be greatty appreciated.
Mama and Baby Love
So sorry for your loss, Tracey. And thanks for sharing. I had/have a kidney deficiency as well and my progesterone was low as well. I starting taking and herbal supplement at 5 weeks and then upped to vaginal suppository prescription doses. I can't think of the name of the supplement right now, but I will go find it and come back and let you know.
Amy Love@Real Food Whole Health
Excellent, excellent suggestions and a perfect combination of physical, emotional and energetic therapies. I am so sorry for your loss but so glad you were able to treat it naturally and avoid a D&C. I had an emergency D&C after a miscarriage and had problems for quite some time afterwards…if only I'd known about natural options then! Thanks so much for sharing and I look forward to keeping up with more from your site, Stephanie…we seem to have a lot in common!
Mama and Baby Love
Thanks so much Amy. Off to check out your blog now!
Terra Rafael
As a homebirth midwife, I've helped women have a natural miscarriage at home. Once I had to take a friend to the hospital because she was bleeding too much. Remember, in the first and even second trimester that your blood volume hasn't expanded much, so you can't lose the two cups of blood that healthy women might spare at a full term birth. If you lose too much it can leave you more susceptible to infection, as well. I highly recommend calling on a midwife for help if things don't seem to be going smoothly – we have lots of tricks of the trade to avoid a D & C.
Here is a link to some tips for miscarriage recovery – including emotional helps. http://wisewomanhood.webs.com/miscarriagerecovery.htm
Miscarriages are more common than most women suppose. Here's to helping each other at this time of grief.
Mama and Baby Love
Thanks for adding those tips and the helpful link.
Elizabeth K
Why say you "failed" at this pregnancy, but were not going to "fail" at the miscarriage? You didn't "fail" at anything. You experienced a natural and sorrowful event, a part of life's cycle – sad, but not a failure. When people die, they don't fail at life. It made me rather sad to read that. I'm very sorry for your loss and also for the other women who shared their thoughts and stories here. No one failed, there was loss, sorrow , and a painful experience of one part of the natural cycle of life. So many women have issues conceiving and carrying a child full term, calling it a failure is not healing or helpful, for you or anyone else.
Mama and Baby Love
I don't think of myself as a failure as a whole in regards to this situation, I was just trying to describe how I felt in one moment, leaving the OB's office. I guess it speaks to my overall tendencies to want to get everything "right" and to be perfect, the perfect mother, the perfect wife, etc. So while I don't think that I or anyone who has a miscarriage is a failure, it is a pretty normal feeling to have when you are miscarrying, if only for a fleeting a moment.
I'm so, so sorry for you loss and thank you for posting this! In November I, too, had a natural miscarriage just shy of 12 weeks. It was my first baby so I've never been through birth or labor before, but my husband thought I was dying because of the pain and the amount I was bleeding. FInally, into the 3rd day I went to a home midwife for verification of everything passing. She was so helpful! She recommended I get an ultra sound just to be sure, so I did. At that point I knew I couldn't get any weaker or lose any more blood without being hospitalized. I had the US and everything was clear. That was a relief! My physical pain was completely gone within a week of the start of the whole process. The emotional pain takes a little longer though.
At the time I knew next to nothing about having a natural miscarriage & didn't even realize it was a possibility. I'm from a 'natural health' family but no one really ever talked about miscarriage – they only talk about (and have) homebirths. My sister & sis-in-law called me part way through the process and sort of talked me through what was going on and what would help. Come to find out they had both miscarried naturally twice – and have had 4 and 6 babies (respectively) via homebirth. Their calm explanation and reassurance is what gave me the peace of mind to realize I COULD to it at home. But their recommendations to follow-up with the midwife were also helpful.
I really hope those who are interested in something rather than the standard hospital route find your post! Thanks again for sharing your story.
Mama and Baby Love
Thanks so much for reading and for sharing your story.
I also chose to naturally miscarry (baby died at 6 weeks, found out at 8 weeks, finished miscarriage at 12 weeks) despite an OB pushing for a D and C. Like you, I really wanted my body to at least do one thing right on it's own.
It is hard to wait it out, but I felt it was the healthiest option for me and my reproductive future. I don't regret it at all. It was my third miscarriage and the first to take so long and be so difficult.
I also have three beautiful living children, and I hope you go on to have as many children as you hope for!
Mama and Baby Love
Thanks so much Monica.
I am currently going through the same process. Although I have an appointment to get the Pill, I would prefer to miscarry at home, my body is not strong enough to carry a baby. Can you tell me the process you went through at home to miscarry?
Thank you,
Pat in TX
We miscarried our seventh child, a daughter, at 20 weeks. I carried her for 22 days after knowing her heart was not beating. She was born naturally at home. It felt like the right way to do things, and the time was very healing emotionally. My woodworker husband had the time to make her a beautiful little casket, which was an act of love and healing for him as well. I rocked her for a long while wrapped in a blanket I had made just for her, and I still know just the spot where she lay on my chest. The other children were able to touch her little foot before we buried her. I went on to have six more children, but the memories of her are peaceful and pleasant. No regrets:)
Mama and Baby Love
What a beautiful story. I love that you waited 22 days instead of rushing to the hospital to be given pitocin to start labor. How brave and strong you are.
Mama and Baby Love
Red raspberry leaf is an overall uterine tonic. It strengthens and supports your uterus. So pretty much it helps your uterus do its job, whatever that job may be. Either to hold a baby in, or to contract and expel. Does that make sense?
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@Melissa Berger… you are right. I wish I knew what the statistics for when intervention is really needed, for example about 2% of all births truly need a cesarean (based on Ina May's research) but I have no idea what it is for miscarriage. But yes, sometimes you do really need an D&C. The best thing to do is listen to your gut and intuition and decide what is best for you, because only you can make that decision.
Barbara R.
I thought that raspberry leaf was supposed to be a fertility herb. I have been taking it. I am confused now.
Heidi L.
Red Raspberry leaf helps tone the uterus. It is a very helpful "herb" for all women before, during and after pregnancy.
Thank you, Stephanie, for posting your story and experience! It is a blessing for those who are going through the same situation and for those of us who haven't but trying to support them. Thankfully I only experienced early spotting with my first pregnancy, possible vanishing twin. Did experience my mother who suffered from a miscarriage at 16 weeks. My mother was only given 2 days to try on her own before the D&C. Being able to bury our little sister was healing for our whole family.
I'm so sorry for your loss. I immediately thought of homeopathy and am glad that you had someone there who could help you. I wish I had known all of this information when my doctor ordered a D&C for me. Thank you for sharing your story so other women can learn from your experience! Hugs!
Mama and Baby Love
Thanks so much for reading, Bethany, and I am sorry for your loss too.
Thanks for ones marvelous posting! I actually enjoyed reading it, you're a great author.I will make certain to bookmark your blog and may come back in the foreseeable future. I want to encourage that you continue your great work, have a nice morning!
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Thanks so much Shawn.
My doctor let me wait four weeks after seeing no heartbeat, and the baby had probably died two weeks before that even (at 7 weeks), she said. It was a long wait, but it was worth it, because I got to see my baby. Sooo tiny! But we got to see him/her and do a little burial with just our immediate family.
I hope I will never again need it, but thank you for this great information!
Mama and Baby Love
I am also so grateful, I got to see and hold my baby. Thanks for sharing, lots of love to you.
I hope I never have to go through it again but being in pain for a week made the emotional side of it really hard. I would would have to weigh my emotional state for sure. It was strange how "laborish" it was in the end. Which made it that much worse.
Mama and Baby Love
Totally. As soon as the pain, contractions and bleeding stopped, I emotionally felt so much better. And just this week, when having my first, post miscarriage period, I got very emotional again with all the pain and blood.
Anastasia @ eco-babyz
I'm sorry for your loss, that must be really hard. Thank you for sharing these tips, hopefully I'll never have to put them to use, but it is good to know they're here.
Melissa Berger via Facebook
Natural miscarriage does not always work.
I tried to have a natural miscarriage but after 2 weeks of times of excruitating pain, I went in to my doctor. I ended up having a ectopic pregnancy that had ruptured. The OB/GYN thought it had been ruptured for those 2 weeks. It was so hard….it hurt down to my soul. I totally believe in natural healing and eating but sometimes we need to listen to our bodies when it is telling us something is not right.
Mama and Baby Love
Natalie Vaughan Adkinson via Facebook
Thank you do much for posting this! I just wish I had this information a month ago when I had my second loss. After extremely heavy bleeding for 4 days, I was forced to have a D&C in order to stop my hemorrhaging. I really wish I could have tried these tips before I had to have the surgery!
Mama and Baby Love
So sorry for your loss Natalie, glad you know about this information now too. Maybe you can help a friend in the future.
Mama and Baby Love
Totally. This is information all women should have access too, so that if a friend or daughter goes through it they know what to do and how to help.
great post. I've never lost a child or had a miscarriage… but it is good info for any woman or mother. or doctor. or anyone. This reminds me of my dear friend who just had her 27 day old pass away. not a miscarriage, but just reminded me. My heart aches for her.
I had a miscarriage late summer of last year at 5 weeks. I had started spotting a little, and I was scared that I was having (another) one. One thing that came to my mind as I worried was "If you're going to have a miscarriage, make it the healthiest miscarriage possible". I thought it was strange at first, but then it started to make sense. If I want to have healthy pregnancies, why wouldn't I want to have a healthy miscarriage as well? After I was diagnosed with a miscarriage started taking a female comfort formula with black and blue cohosh, red raspberry, and other female herbs. Within an hour of taking them I started to bleed. It lasted for about 4 days. I ate good foods, and rested a lot, and within a few months I was able to conceive again. I really think that if I hadn't done those things I would have had a lot of problems. The hardest part always is letting go of the pregnancy. I didn't take the pills until the day after the miscarriage was confirmed simply because I wasn't ready to say goodbye to it till then.
Thank you so much for writing about this. If someone has never been through it before they don't realize how painful it is, physically and emotionally. You inspire me to write about my own experience some day soon.
Mama and Baby Love
Thanks for sharing. I am so glad you were able to take good care of yourself and having a healing time for yourself. I agree, letting go is so hard. I am glad you will write about your experience soon, I know it will help other women. When you do be sure to comment on my original miscarriage story posted on my blog, so other women can see it.
DeAnna Summitt Hensley via Facebook
D&E is for a larger baby – E is extraction
Thank you for posting. I too had a miscarriage in October at 11 weeks. I unfortunately had to have a D&C. My dr let me try it naturally for a week before setting the appointment for the procedure. I used acupuncture, red raspberry leaf, parsley suposatory to open cervix, and black cohosh, I could not find blue. I also told my body it was ok to let go. While I did spot, I never passed tissue and ended up having the D&C. It is defiantly something I never want to do again.
Mama and Baby Love
Sometimes it can takes weeks for a miscarriage to begin and that waiting can be torture. I am so sorry for your loss.
Sheena Diehl McGowan via Facebook
I like that you included energy healing. It took my body 5 weeks to let go of my last lost little and I just KNOW it's because my heart couldn't let go.
Great article. Thanks for sharing.
Mama and Baby Love
Thanks for sharing your story, so sorry for your loss. Glad you liked the part about energy healing. I think energy healing gets left out on a lot of holistic/wellness blogs because it is still pretty taboo and weird. Acupuncture is technically energy healing, but it so much more socially aceptable. I am huge fan of energy healing and I am a certified Reiki Master myself, I wish more people utilized it.
Jan Posch via Facebook
I thought it was a D&E for miscarriages.
D and C is correct and stands for Dilation and Curettage
Kira Shaw via Facebook
I was so blessed to have a homebirth midwife talk me through my miscarriage. I did go to ER for confirmation that it was a miscarriage and couldn't be stopped but I was stunned at how intense the contractions were for being 9 weeks along. Honestly I was grieving so much that the thought of going to a Dr for a D&C never crossed my mind. The ER did ask me to follow up with a Dr, but I never did. I couldn't bear to tell one more person what had happened. I would never go through that alone with kids at home again though. It was way too intense physically and emotionally to be sole caregiver.
Mama and Baby Love
That is wonderful. I had the help of a wonderful midwife as well. I know what you mean about going in for a follow up. The last place I wanted to be was in that damn OB office with that damn ultrasound machine. I agree, trying to care for my daughter was the hardest part. I pretty much just checked out for a couple of weeks, I feel really guilty about it, but hopefully no real emotional damage was done to her.
Kateri Scott via Facebook
Hmmmm….acupressure between thumb and forefinger. I did that to relieve nasal congestion. I later had very powerful contractions at only 26 weeks pregnant. Now I know to avoid doing that.
Stacey Friesen via Facebook
My D&C was definitely necessary. I miscarried naturally at home, but had major bleeding as well. If I was smart, I would have gone to the hospital much sooner. I waited well past a month, and was still bleeding! After the D&C, everything was fine again (other than my emotional state).
Mama and Baby Love
I agree, some are necessary. Glad you recovered physically from the D&C with ease.
Kateri Scott via Facebook
I wish I knew this for my 3rd miscarriage and avoided an unnecessary d&c. My 1st miscarriage passed naturally and no more difficult than a heavy period. My 2nd miscarriage, I bled so much so fast and without ceasing that I was bleeding to death within hours. A D&C was necessary to save my life. My 3rd miscarriage, I panicked, ran to the OB asap, he panicked and performed a D&C, which he later said went well because there was little left in me. In other words, the D&C was unnecessary.
Mama and Baby Love
Yes, some D&C's are very necessary. So sorry for your losses.
Zoya Geacintov via Facebook
Really important post! Thank you so much. I was shocked to discover that there is little to no information on this subject when I went through my miscarriage. I was also surprised to find out how many women shared my experience. Thank you.
Mama and Baby Love
I know it is shocking how little information is out there, even on the web.
Sara Vandertil Karr via Facebook
thank you for posting that as I did the same thing and honoured to find someone else that did
Mama and Baby Love
Thank you for reading Sara!
I recently had a miscarriage at 10 weeks, and I agree emotional part is the hardest! It may sound a little cooky, but I made sure to let our baby know that it was okay to go and that we would be okay and that I was releasing it into the arms of God…
I don't know for sure, but I think it had something to do with us having a natural miscarriage with no complications at all.
Thanks for the post…so sorry for your loss.
Mama and Baby Love
So sorry for your loss too, Kimberly. And that does not sound cooky at all!
Hi my name is maxine and im 10 weeks and 1 day pregnant I just found out that idlf I have this baby I would die what should I do should I try to have a misscarraige or should I do an abortion please let me know because I cant have this baby
I miscarried my 5th (5 months into the pregnancy) a few months ago and it was the single most dramatic thing I've ever dealt with in my life. I did not go to a doctor, and looked up as much as I could. Even though I stopped bleeding and had no other issues, this information would have helped! Glad it's out there now for others to see and read!
Mama and Baby Love
So sorry for your loss, Aimee. I am glad this information is out there now too.
Very Sad
I know of a very young girl who had a miscarriage at home on her own. From what I understand she has not been to the doctors and has not told her parents. I herd about this through a third party and feel for this young girl. I also have a few questions and am not sure who to turn too! Can you help?
I am 6 days late from my period. It could be from mamy reasons. I had an overian cyst removed. I took a plan b pill and started my birth control pills the same day. Any advice?
I had a natural miscarriage as well, and luckily it was a pretty easy process. It was the mental part that I had the hardest time with.
Mama and Baby Love
So glad the physical process was easy for you. I agree the mental/emotional part can be the hardest part.
Hey… Please give me info on how to let my girl friend have a natueral miscarrage ASAP PLEASE….
What Did You Do Kate I Need To No
Hi, can you help me with some tips on how to induce a miscarriage safely and successfully? I am under 5 weeks pregnant


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Good afternoon! Let's talk some football!
Gisele (via mobile)
How can you expect my husband to throw the ball AND run this chat for you?
KC Joyner (4:00 PM)
She's right. Running a chat ain't easy.
Patrick (NYC)
Is Hakeem Nicks the best wideout in Football?
KC Joyner (4:02 PM)
The way Mario Manningham played during the postseason, the question should be is Nicks even the best WR on his team.
Tommy (the big easy)
KC, whats your thoughts on the redskins QB options should they sign peyton, flynn, or orton Or trade up and draft RG3?
KC Joyner (4:03 PM)
RG3 if the price is right.
T.A. Sedlak (Madison, WI)
Forgive me if someone recently asked you this. I've missed some chats. Last off season you said that Flynn hadn't shown enough to prove himself yet. Did the one game he played in this year help him at all? How big of a risk do you think he is?
KC Joyner (4:04 PM)
The nutshell take on Flynn is that not too much emphasis should be put on the Detroit game. That contest said more about the Lions secondary than it did Flynn.
Max (San Fran, CA) [via mobile]
We all know that the 49ers have an amazing defense and special teams. Would u say that adding Peyton gives them enough to win the big game next year?
KC Joyner (4:05 PM)
The 2011 version of Alex Smith was in many ways just as productive as the 2010 version of Peyton Manning. SF needs to stick with Smith and develop his talents. He's got top 10 QB potential and is not far from being at that level right now.
Scott (New Rochelle, NY)
Does Shoelace (Denard Robinson) have a breakout season for the Wolverines this year?
KC Joyner (4:06 PM)
He does if they find ways to keep him healthy. That's part of why the Wolverines are said to be thinking about diversifying their offense.
Jim (St. Louis)
If the Rams end up wanting to draft Blackmon, do they still resign Lloyd?
KC Joyner (4:07 PM)
Brandon Lloyd has been productive only when he has worked with Josh McDaniels. If St. Louis ends up with Blackmon, they shouldn't go too far to trying to keep Lloyd.
Josh (Washington, DC)
How well do you think Robert Mathis could convert to being a pass rushing 3-4 OLB?
KC Joyner (4:08 PM)
Mathis has tremendous pass rushing ability and could ostensibly find a way to make it as a 3-4 rush LB. Still, his best fit is as a 4-3 DE.
Patrick (NYC)
Really? Hakeem Nicks had 28 catches, 444 yds and 4 TDs in the playoffs. Manningham had 13 catches, 189 yds and 3 TDs in the playoffs.
KC Joyner (4:09 PM)
That was a bit facetious. I've been touting Nicks as a top 10 WR for a while now. His 2011 campaign really wasn't as good as he is capable of performing, but that still places him just out on the outside of the top 10 WR level.
Studebaker (NJ)
Manningham the best on the team? Come on now, one great catch does not a better player make. Nicks dominated all throughout the playoffs, often with double coverage.
KC Joyner (4:10 PM)
Can you guys not take a joke? And don't forget, the chatters a couple of months ago had demoted Manningham to working at a Burger King drive-thru in my basement. I'm trying to do all I can to get him promoted out of that job.
Sean McKenzie (Van Wert, OH)
Hey KC, thanks for taking my question. I keep hearing that we shouldnt be surprised if Heckert pulls the trigger on CB Claiborne from LSU at the 4th pick. If he is so bent on getting someone to play next to Haden, wouldnt it be better to sign Brent Grimes, who is young, can play man and zone, and a solid open field tackler, instead of using a high pick on defense when we badly need offense? I personally think Blackmon should be our pick. Who would you rather have Grimes or Claiborne?
KC Joyner (4:12 PM)
The thing about Claiborne is that he really is more of a big ballhawk CB than a shutdown CB. He had a YPA last year in the low 7-yard range, and if that number increases at the NFL level, it will make him a bit of a target. Grimes has posted 5-6 YPA totals and is better in coverage, so it depends on if Cleveland wants a second shutdown CB or a ballhawk.
Tommy (BFE)
Oh no your comments have ignited another WR debate LOL
KC Joyner (4:13 PM)
It's funny, there were some nasty comments posted before the chat began that referenced previous WR discussions. It seems to be a sore spot.
PaulieP (Scottsdale)
Why don't I hear more about Seattle as a landing spot for Peyton? Seems like a great fit both ways to me.
KC Joyner (4:14 PM)
That type of talk seems to be happening more and more. If Peyton is healthy (and that still seems to be a big question mark), he can give Seattle a shot at winning the NFC.
Patrick (NYC)
Do you know anything about VT cornerback Jayron Hosley? Everybody loves Claiborne, Janoris Jenkins and the guy from Nebraska, but Hosley was a beast all year for the Hokies.
KC Joyner (4:14 PM)
Haven't had a chance to do a full breakdown on Hosley yet but he is definitely a ballhawk CB with tons of big play potential.
Studebaker (NJ)
Whew, Scientist, you almost had me going there. Speaking of Manningham: 1) should the Giants retain him at market value, 2) what offenses would be a good fit for his skill set around the league?
KC Joyner (4:16 PM)
It may depend on Cruz. If the Giants want to reward him for his performance, it will be hard to pay him and Manningham and Nicks over the long haul. Manningham's skills are vast enough that he would really be a good fit in just about any offense, but a vertical pass offense is his best fit.
Tommy (hotel california)
KC, give me 3 first round talents that wouldnt surprise you if they fall in the draft ?
KC Joyner (4:17 PM)
One that comes to mind immediately is Kendall Wright. Just broke down his 2011 season while researching the RG3 can be the next Cam Newton article and found some weaknesses in Wright's game.
Stephane (Philly)
Obviously the Eagles need to upgrade Linebacker and Safety. If they drafted Luke Kuechely and signed Stephen Tulloch and Laron Landry, would they be a Super Bowl contender next year? Or is that impossible with Vick at the helm
KC Joyner (4:18 PM)
The Eagles led the league in sack/int percentage (i.e. the % of time they notched a sack or int on defense). All they really need is to stop giving up those huge plays. If they upgraded at LB & safety (and the moves you suggest would be upgrades), they are a bona fide Super Bowl contender.
Mikey (Lackawanna,NY)
How would you rank these unrestricted FA WR's? 1 through 5! Stevie Johnson, Vincent Jackson, Dwayne Bowe, Mario Manningham, and Marques Colston.
KC Joyner (4:19 PM)
Funny you should ask that, as that is the article I will be researching this weekend. It will be posted on Tuesday and will include those five plus two others.
Rich (Philly)
KC....with the new rookie pay scale do you believe 1st rounders are worth more (Jimmy Johnson scale) than they were a few years ago? Their signability is easier now.
KC Joyner (4:20 PM)
You are spot with that assessment, Rich. First-round rookies are worth more now because they cost less (which is kind of ironic).
Vance (Nashville,TN) [via mobile]
Do you think the cowboys should try to get a rookie QB this year so he could learn behind Romo or sign a veteran QB like flynn?
KC Joyner (4:22 PM)
A vet would be the best choice, as Dallas has a Super Bowl window that should be open for the next 2-3 years. Would hate to see one of those years knocked out because the rookie backup couldn't keep the team in contention if Romo were hurt for a time.
Patrick (Florida)
Would you please comment on what is looking like a disaster happening in Tampa Bay. No one wants to come help coach this team with Greg Schiano. We seem to be looking at guys whos previous experience has not been good in the NFL. Former offensive coordinators who have not had any success in their rankings. Even college coaches wont even come down. What is happening here? Even guys out of work like Butch Davis arent biting.
KC Joyner (4:23 PM)
There isn't a lot more to say than what you just said, Patrick. The Tampa situation does not look good.
Patrick (NYC)
Why do most pundits have Vontaze Burfict slipping in the first round? Burfict was a top-5 recruit in high school and is by far-and-away the best LB in the draft. I say top 10 for sure.
KC Joyner (4:24 PM)
Some of it probably has to do with his perceived volatility. Teams like to sign players who they figure will play well week to week and Burfict is perceived to be not quite that consistent.
Mickey (St. Louis)
I say the Rams need to select Blackmon instead of Kalil with the second overall pick and then pick up some Off. Linemen in the later rounds to compete for a starting position. What say you?
KC Joyner (4:26 PM)
The issue is that Blackmon had a subpar senior season. His YPA was only slightly higher than the composite YPA totals of the other top WRs on the OSU squad. That gives reason to think he isn't quite going to be up to Green/Jones rookie year impact WR status. I'd probably take Kalil.
Scott (Northglenn, CO)
Hey, KC, did you see that hold Brian Waters had in the SB? (stirring the pot)...
KC Joyner (4:26 PM)
Sure did. And smiled when it happened.
Dario (CA)
Have you broken down Andrew Luck film yet? Clear top player or do you like RG3 better?
KC Joyner (4:27 PM)
Just got done with a Luck analysis for the upcoming issue of ESPN The Magazine. Can't give the write-up away early, but suffice it to say that the tape review showed some weaknesses in Luck's game that casts some doubt on the thought that he is the next John Elway.
Jake (Miami)
Go out on a limb KC the starting QB for the Dolphins next year will be?
KC Joyner (4:28 PM)
Flynn. The Fins won't want to wait until the draft to see if they can fix their QB issue there.
Stephane (Philly)
KC Joyner (4:29 PM)
It's funny, he actually had a better season that what I said about him a few weeks back. Having said that, he was still quite inconsistent, especially in the running game and it wasn't a shock to see the Giants find a way to test him.
Tommy (peyton's head)
If Luck doesnt have 12 10+ win seasons, 2 superbowls(1 victory), and 4 nfl MVPs hes a bust right?
KC Joyner (4:30 PM)
That's part of the issue with Luck. The expectations are so incredibly high for him that even if he ends up being a really good but not elite QB, he'll be seen as a bust.
Jeff (Nashville)
Packers went from top 5 defenses in 09/10 to dead last this past year. How do they get back on track? Still a lot of talent on that side of the ball.
KC Joyner (4:32 PM)
The lockout probably hurt the Packers as much as anyone. There was a Magazine article at the beginning of the season that had a player noting that teams weren't able to use as many blitz packages because the lockout kept them from getting fully up to speed. GB lives and dies with the blitz, so that more than likely really hurt them. Give the Pack a full offseason and things should get back to normal.
Scott (Northglenn, CO)
So are the obvious RG III and Vick comparisons accurate, or who would you compare the Baylor product to?
KC Joyner (4:33 PM)
He's like Vick except that he protects the ball a whole lot better. Bad thing is he also looks like he could have the same durability issues as Vick.
Stephane (Philly)
Have you broken down Mark Barron from Alabama yet? What do you think of him as a player?
KC Joyner (4:33 PM)
He was very good in coverage (low 5 YPA if memory serves correct). Like his NFL prospects a lot.
Tom Brady (New England)
Wow I didnt know I was a big loser now wonder if BB will release me
KC Joyner (4:34 PM)
Amazing that Brady is taking that much grief. Five Super Bowl appearances ain't what they used to be.
Kev (NYC)
Hey KC, In terms of the Gmen thriving as the undersog--Where do you see them heading into next season? A 5th or 6th seed Wild Card team and the most dangerous playoff team or a 1st round bye like they were after their last SB championship? Thanks!
KC Joyner (4:35 PM)
I hope they are still an underdog, as then it would be easy to keep writing the "Giants are underrated" articles. But, the truth is they will almost certainly be seen as NFC East favorites now.
Kurtis (Houston, TX)
Is Arian the best running back in the game right now? He finished 5th in rushing this year, about 375 yards behind 1st place MJD. However he didn't play 15 total quarters (Almost 4 games), split a lot of games with Ben Tate, had top 5 in total TDs for all RB and played a huge role in the reception game. Not to forget he lost the best FB in the NFL last year (Leach) and played with several who consistently fought injuries - and finally, when Schaub went down, he basically finished the season in a one-dimensional office.
KC Joyner (4:36 PM)
A case can be made for Foster, especially because some of the other great RBs (Peterson & Forte) missed games as well.
tommy (hurry my boss is coming)
whats your thoughts on boykin and charles from georgia?
KC Joyner (4:36 PM)
Haven't done much on Boykin. Think Charles is highly overrated.
Patrick (NYC)
Do you think Greg Little can emerge as a true #1 wideout?
KC Joyner (4:37 PM)
If he has RG3 throwing him the football, absolutely.
Stephane (Philly)
Am I crazy for liking RGIII over Luck? The games I watched Luck play did not impress me at all, including the USC game which was supposed to be his statement game, while Griffin was outstanding in big games vs. Texas, Oklahoma, and TCU
KC Joyner (4:38 PM)
It all depends on what type of offense someone wants to run. RG3 operates best in a wide open pass offense, while Luck seems to work best with a pro-style, vertical pass to get ahead and run the ball to win offense.
Manny (Miami)
Do you see the Dolphins going after any of Indy's FA's like Mathis, Wayne or Garcon to help sweeten the pot for Manning to choose them?
KC Joyner (4:39 PM)
Maybe, but Manning would probably be most impressed with a big number next to the contract dollar amount.
Studebaker (NJ)
Who is more deserving of the whopper FA contract: Brandon Carr or Mario Williams? Also can I get a Whopper, no pickles, from the basement drive-thru?
KC Joyner (4:40 PM)
Williams. Carr is good but Williams is elite. And Mario's not in at the moment, as he is trying to figure out which team is going to sign him to a huge $ deal. That means the drive-thru is unmanned at the moment and the line of customers is going around the block.
Jake (Miami)
Do you see any truth to the rumor that the dolphins might be looking to trade B. Marshall this offseason?
KC Joyner (4:42 PM)
Marshall hasn't exactly lived up to expectations (or at least what seemed to be the perceived expectations going in), so it wouldn't be a total shock if the Fins were thinking of shopping him.
Shane (Indiana)
I hear the Colts fired the Polians because they favored drafting RG3 over A.Luck?
KC Joyner (4:44 PM)
Would find it hard to believe that Irsay would fire his lead personnel people over one possible future disagreement.
Jeff (Nashville)
Do you like Mario to stay at OLB, or is he better off going back to 4-3 DE?
KC Joyner (4:45 PM)
OLB, but Wade Phillips will almost certainly have him alternate between those roles in the same way he had Ware do that in Dallas.
chris (nj)
now that football season is over will you please talk more hockey cause so tired of everything being basketball.there are lots of hockey fans out there like myself..thank you go flyers....
KC Joyner (4:46 PM)
Well, Mrs. Scientist is getting a bit back into hockey of late, so throwing in the occasional hockey question would be more than welcome.
Patrick (NYC)
Do you think that, over the past decade, the poor state of the AFC East has contributed to the Patriots long-term success? The best QB that the Phins, Bills or Jets had during that time was Chad Pennington! If the Pats switched divisions with the Ravens, are we talking about a Ravens dynasty?
KC Joyner (4:48 PM)
The Patriots certainly haven't been happy playing the Jets the past few years, and Miami's record against them has been fairly good as well. Having in-division struggles hasn't kept NE from winning the division and that would probably have been the case even in another division.
bob shefelton (kansas)
i am a redskin fan from back when sonny and billy were the QBs,is payton going to the redskins?
KC Joyner (4:48 PM)
Gut says no if Washington thinks it can land RG3 in the draft.
Kev (NYC)
Cruz stated "he'd like to get paid" which I beluieve the Gmen will oblige to...What kind of terms are we looking at here?
KC Joyner (4:50 PM)
He's going to want elite WR money, but the Giants will counter by saying he's only had one good season. They will rightfully think that he could be a flash in the pan and won't want to pay him the same kind of dollars that top wideouts who have posted multiple big seasons get.
Brendan (Boston)
KC, does Mark Sanchez make it through the season?
KC Joyner (4:50 PM)
Make it through the season how? Injury-wise? Benching? Without having a UFC-style fight with Holmes?
Stephane (Philly)
Thoughts on Brandon Weeden?
KC Joyner (4:52 PM)
Let's put it this way. Rookie QBs of late have proven it is possible to get out of the gate quickly. If Weeden can do that, he's got at least a 4-5 year window to perform. That's more than enough performance time to justify an early draft pick on.
Jeff (Nashville)
Do you think the Giants/Pats are the best teams going into next year?
KC Joyner (4:53 PM)
At the moment, yes, but FA & the draft will have a lot to say about that. It wouldn't be surprising if Baltimore found a way to move past NE by the time all is said and done.
Brendan (Boston)
KC, early pick for next year's Superbowl?
KC Joyner (4:54 PM)
Green Bay and Baltimore. But I reserve the right to change my mind after FA and the draft.
Patrick (NYC)
Im just saying, the Patriots plow their divisional schedule every year. This is unprecedented in the NFL. Since 2001, Pats are:15-7 vs the Dolphins17-7 vs the Jets20-2 vs the BillsI think that if they played a tougher division, they would not be the perennial contender that they are.
KC Joyner (4:55 PM)
Let's say they played against the Ravens and Steelers and those numbers moved to more like .500 (the ones against the Fins and Jets). It's a nine-game difference over the course of 11 seasons, which is not enough to say that NE would fall short of the playoffs.
Robert Griffin III (Far From Cleveland)
Is it just me or have the Browns ruined every QB they have touched since they came back inot the League? They could all have been Busts could they? I personally think the Browns should pick up a WR and an O Linemen with thier 2 1st round picks and maybe pick up somebody like Wheedon with the 4th pick in the 2nd round.
KC Joyner (4:57 PM)
I've got a lot of faith in Shurmur and can't quite hold him responsible for where Colt McCoy is today. McCoy was never that good at Texas and is a mid-range NFL QB at best. RG3 has elite talent and Shurmur could do a lot more with this offense with Griffin as the pilot.
Kev (NYC)
Being the Jets are locked into long term deals are have committed to Holmes now, it doesn't appear that have a lot of room to make major moves. With that said, I can't see this team being any better than 6-8th in the AFC and on the outside looking in come playoff time...Your thoughts?
KC Joyner (4:58 PM)
The draft is deep enough at WR that NY should be able to upgrade at that position even with committing to Holmes. NY could also upgrade at other offensive positions through FA and the draft. That would help solve the personnel issues but still would not resolve the team chemistry issues.
Peter (Nacogdoches, TX)
The Texans seem to need a few areas, but WR & OLB seem to be the biggest need, especially if Mario leaves. What are some realistic free agent add-ons/replacements for both of those positions for the Texans?
KC Joyner (5:00 PM)
The WR class is deep both in FA and the draft. A lot of who they get will depend on which WRs are franchised tagged. Mario would be a great add (he and Andre could combine to be the best 1-2 WR combo in the league).
Brendan (Boston)
Are people going to stop paying WRs big money? WRs have been flourishing from the draft more and more in the last few years, so isn't that safer than paying an aging WR ie a Holmes?
KC Joyner (5:02 PM)
They may only stop paying top WRs big money if they are able to get the Jones/Green types who can produce from day 1. It still takes most WRs a few years to get up to speed and the vet WRs often don't have that lead-in time. Well, the hour has flown by but it's now time to hit the road and spend some time with my wife and kids. Quick note - the TFS material is always posted on Twitter @KCJoynerTFS. Hope to see you all here next week!
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