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Cooking with My Sistersby Antonia Trigiani Francesca Trigiani Mary Trigiani Lucia Anna Trigiani Adriana Trigiani
For the Trigianis, cooking has always been a family affair-and the kitchen was the bustling center of their home, where folks gathered around the table for good food, good conversation, and the occasional eruption. Example: Being thrown out of the kitchen because one's Easter bread kneading technique isn't up to par. As Adriana says: "When the Trigianis reach out and touch someone, we do it with food." Like the recipes that have been handed down for generations from mother to daughter and grandmother to granddaughter, the family's celebrations are also anchored to the life and laughter around the table. We learn how Grandmom Yolanda Trigiani sometimes wrote her recipes in code, or worked from memory, guarding her recipes carefully. And we meet Grandma Lucia Bonicelli, who never raised her voice and believed that when people fight at the dinner table, the food turns to poison in the body.Adriana Trigiani's voice springs to life from the first page of Cooking with My Sisters, a collection of beloved family recipes that the Trigianis have been enjoying for generations. But there's much more here than just the food. Peppered with hilarious family anecdotes, poignant letters, and exquisite color photographs, Cooking with My Sisters draws us into the warm and witty world of the Trigiani clan. Each recipe has a story behind it, and each chapter has tips from different sisters, reflecting the unique personalities of the latest generation of Trigiani women.Here are mainstay meals, featured in sections such as "The Big Life" and "The Big Wow," which include the chapters "Pasta, or as We Called It, Maccheroni" and "Food We Hated as Kids but Love to Serve Now." Accessible to any cook, the recipes range from Chicken and Polenta, Zizi Mary's Rice Soup, and Gnocchi to favorite desserts like Grandmom's Buttermilk Cake-and all the delectable dishes are geared toward bringing your family together.Written with Adriana Trigiani's trademark humor and verve, this wonderful book will appeal to anyone who values the bonds that food, community, and cultural tradition can provide.From the Hardcover edition.
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I of course run the risk of posting this and they have already have been discussed and looking like a dope. Or that you will say "I have been into the band for a while now KP, where have you been?' But just in case you have not run across them.....
I know both you guys are music fans and I seem to remember ges liking bands like The Courteeners, Rifles, Editors ect ect, and Win liking some bands I have mentioned before so here is another that you should check out if you have not already
The Vaccines.
The Vaccines - Lack Of Understanding - YouTube
The Vaccines - Wreckin' Bar (Ra Ra Ra) - YouTube
The guy at times sort of sounds like the dude from Editors and they have a pretty sound. Their debut album can be found at, believe it or not, at Bestbuy.
And I think I have read they are touring with Arctic Monkeys right now.


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John Nolte has done it again. He's gotten conservative film lovers abuzz over a new article at his indispensable Big Hollywood blog.
The commotion is about Ben Shapiro's post today which claims to name the 10 most overrated Hollywood directors.
The article is a hyperbolic provocation, not to be taken seriously. Shapiro makes dumb statements like,
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Sandra Bullock may have taken on deadly space debris in Best Picture contender Gravity, but it'll likely be Cate Blanchett that destroys her chances at winning a second Oscar come Sunday, March 2nd. That's right, the 86th Academy Awards ceremony is less than two weeks away, which mean now's the time to catch up on all those critically-acclaimed movies you've been meaning to watch. Thankfully, the Kalamazoo Public Library is here to help with this list of all the Oscar-nominated films that you can check out from us right now:
Several more Oscar contenders will be available on DVD or Blu-ray very soon:
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Keep an eye out for the rest of the nominees, which are sure to follow. In the meantime, come on down to KPL and start prepping for Oscar night!
Reader's Advisory is a term that librarians use to describe the act of linking similar titles together so that readers are exposed to authors and titles that possess comparable thematic or stylistic qualities. This is the first installment of a film version of that kind of process of suggestion. It's not scientifically based and so absorb these lists with a grain of salt. • Liked Goodfellas, try Miller's Crossing• Liked Charulata, try Everlasting Moments• Liked The Truman Show, try Real Life • Liked Drive, try Taxi Driver • Liked Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, try Petulia• Liked Last Year at Marienbad, try Memento• Liked The Ice Storm, try Ordinary People • Liked Groundhog Day, try Being There• Liked Take Shelter, try Repulsion• Liked Il Postino, try Amelie• Liked E.T, try Super 8• Liked Doubt, try The Silence• Liked Mad Men (series), try The Hour (series) • Liked Paper Moon, try The Last Picture Show• Liked Harold and Maude, try Delicacy• Liked Tinker Tailor, Soldier Spy, try The Spy Who Came in from the Cold• Liked Goon, try Slapshot• Liked Harry and Tonto, try Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore• Liked The Newsroom (series), try Sports Night (series) • Liked Platoon, try The Thin Red Line• Liked Leaving Las Vegas, try Taste of Cherry• Liked Dead Man Walking, try Into the Abyss: a tale of death, a tale of life• Liked There Will Be Blood, try Citizen Kane• The Bridge Over River Kwai, try Force 10 from Navarone• Liked Blue Valentine, try A Woman Under the Influence
Can a film be at once a tender, macabre, oddball slice of campy surrealism with a heart? Few have treaded these idiosyncratic waters of exotic eccentricity better than Canadian filmmaker Guy Maddin. Brand upon the Brain, his feature film from 2008 represents Maddin at his most mainstream, which is not to suggest that the film is going to be embraced by more than a few devotees. But if you're willing to open your mind up to Maddin's semi-autobiographical story about a lighthouse that serves as both an orphanage and the setting for mad, scientific experiments, you'll be rewarded with an enchanting tale of bold, cinematic weirdness.
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1811 Pre-Prohibition Lager - Fort George Brewery + Public House
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Ratings: 61 | Reviews: 34 | Show All Ratings:
3.65/5 rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75
A> Poured from a pint can, this brew pours a straw-colored gold and is quite hazy. Beautiful 2+ finger head that is thick and fluffy, very good retention.
S> Strong aroma pouring out of the glass. The hops come across as grassy with lemon-like citrus with a sweet grain background that has hints of apricot.
T> The flavor profile is pretty hop-forward, especially for the style. The hops are still grassy but here the citrus takes on more grapefruit like characteristics with moderate bitterness. The malt is fairly subdued, the flavor profiles are much akin to the aroma but more muted. Sweet, apricot-like fruitiness, and just a hint of darker roast.
M> Good carbonation, pretty thin but appropriate for the style. Drinkable while maintaining a bit of complexity.
O> A tasty, well brewed hop-forward lager that is very drinkable while being fairly complex. Although it might be a little too much for people who do not like the bitterness of hops.
Serving type: can
04-07-2014 22:19:38 | More by alexrichman
4.21/5 rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5
Clear pale golden color. Rich and tangy flavor with an appealing hoppy burn. Light body plus a sudsy mouthfeel. Lovely grainy aromas with a flowery nose.
I would say this tastes more like a hoppy Pilsener than any typical lager, but that's a good thing. I don't know what kind of hops they use, but it's an appealing resiny sting with some piney aromas. The mellow corn flavor is a revelation; maybe it's just a matter of brewing with enough grain to end up with this much flavor.
A big surprise at how good this is. I rate it among the best lagers I've had. Another outstanding brew from Ft. George. From the 16 oz can purchased at Bottleworks in Seattle.
Serving type: can
04-06-2014 23:46:20 | More by mactrail
3.4/5 rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
Served from the can into a pilsner glass.
A- Poured a hazy light golden color with bright white fluffy head that left dense lacing.
S- Big crisp pilsner malt, lemon, and bready notes.
T- Some pilsner malt notes, light lemon notes, and some big kinda skunky grainy notes. Moderate bitterness for the style.
M- Lighter bodied, slightly watery finish, and soft carbonation.
O- Not a bad beer, but not very exciting. It beats a lot of other american adjunct lagers though. It was interesting to try a craft brewery's take on the style.
Serving type: can
03-13-2014 03:22:39 | More by Hoptometrist
3.51/5 rDev -3.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5
Pours orange-gold with a thick white head. Hazey, golden/orange. Floral hop aroma with some hints of lemon zest. Semi-sweet malt profile, noticeable corn flavor that quickly makes way for a spicy hop bitterness that lingers on the tongue. Extremely dry finish. Simple but tasty lager.
Serving type: can
11-12-2013 00:01:40 | More by anarchia
3.7/5 rDev +1.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
Can I brought to share at drewone's tasting.
Canned 4/2/13.
Pours a murky yellow with a foamy off-white head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, grain, and grassy aromas. Taste is much the same with grassy and hay flavors on the finish. There is a medium amount of hop bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer that is tasty and easy to drink.
Serving type: can
06-11-2013 02:04:52 | More by UCLABrewN84
New Mexico
2.89/5 rDev -20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3
A medium sized white to slightly off white head settles into a nice lacing above a cloudy thick well carbonated straw golden colored beer.
A very light aroma on this beer about all I can sense is some light sweet attributes, maybe from some lightly roasted grain malts.
A light taste, like washed out light grains that would seem to have been very lightly roasted, yet has a noticeable dry bitterness to the taste.
The dryness and bitterness from the taste are more pronounced in the aftertaste which is drying and without much taste on this lighter bodied beer.
Very light in taste, this would make the ideal beer pong beer, no bad tastes coming through like all the beers that come in 30 packs, yet its taste is very subdued so about anybody can drink it.
Serving type: can
05-15-2013 19:39:24 | More by LXIXME
1.75/5 rDev -52.1%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2
tasted from a tall straight willi glass
appearance - yellow-gold, foamy head that went away quickly and left a little "scum" on top
smell - a little sweet malts, not much else
taste - grassy, and a little grainy
mouthfeel - over carbination with a dry finish
overall - i think i had an old can or one that went bad
Serving type: can
Serving type: can
09-11-2012 11:51:41 | More by markh814
4/5 rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
Can date: unk
A: pours a yellow ale with a single finger of egg white foam, which dissipates to a solid sheet of the same. The lager has excellent clarity. lace rings.
S: Grain, sweet bread, light hops, grass, some soil and a good pils quality. Nice.
T: Grainy, smooth, lightly bitter with some nice sweet tones and a good czech like water profile. I like the flavor and would call this pilsner in a second. And a good one at that.
M: Light body, moderate carb and a smooth finish. Well done.
O: Previously really disappointed with this one, now really happy with it. Totally dig it actually. Happy this is now available in the area.
Serving type: can
09-07-2012 07:09:55 | More by harrymel
2.25/5 rDev -38.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2
Tasted 11 July 2012, reviewed from notes. Can dated 04/03, which I think means bottled 3 April 2012.
This is a stunning lager. Pours a medium golden yellow, pretty clear. Huge white head, dense, pillowy, and cratering. Great retention, and tons of lacing. Pretty.
Smell is dull - lager yeast and bland noble hops. Has that slightly corny smell that many lagers have.
This is bad. What went wrong? It's like the beers being mocked in those old Keystone Light "bitter beer face" ads. Bitter, but in a bad way. Doesn't feel like hop bitterness, instead it's astringent and unpleasant. I really do not like this.
Mouthfeel is fine. Medium-bodied, a little heavier than I expected. Lasting finish, which is carrying that foul taste throughout my mouth.
There aren't many beers that actually taste bad to me. But this is one of them. I might just have to try it again, to confirm this experience (I'm a glutton for punishment).
Serving type: can
08-10-2012 07:13:06 | More by zeledonia
North Carolina
3.28/5 rDev -10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3
[Best served in a Lager glass]
The pour was a hazy medium orange with a large white rocky head that had good retention, reducing slowly down to a large cap with some fair streaky lacing.
The aroma of a light straw malt, floral and grass hops and a mild soapy yeast with notes of caramel, corn and citrus (grapefruit).
The taste was bitter from the word go with a mild caramel sweetness and finished rather hoppy with a slight citrus peel presence towards the end. The flavor lasted a nice long time after the swallow with the hoppy bitterness left lingering on the taste buds.
Mouthfeel was a few shades beyond light in body with a light dry texture and a medium carbonation.
Overall a nice hoppy Lager with a smooth refreshing feel...
Serving type: can
07-21-2012 14:34:55 | More by KajII
4.1/5 rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5
Poured into 10oz pilsener glass. Poured a hazy yellow color with 1/4 inch of white head that had OK retention and light lacing.
The aroma was a neutrally balanced blend of gentle grains, a slight sweetness, and just a tickle of hops. The flavors were mostly the same, a good grain base, gentle hops on the front and middle of the tongue, some tangy hops at the back, and just a light bit of sweetness. Overall, a very nice blend of flavors.
The body was very good, full while being smooth, clean and light. Drinkability was excellent, this could easily be an all-day drinker or the perfect lawnmower beer. Overall, a very nice beer. A must try. a great take on the style, and the beer a lot of other try to be. For example, after I finished this beer, I had a bottle of Full sail session that was in the fridge. Poured it into the same glass. The 1811 is beer Session wants to be when it grows up. If your in the mood for this style, I can't see doing much better than this beer. Worth seeking out or trading for.
Serving type: can
06-21-2012 18:14:00 | More by beertunes
3.48/5 rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5
A: Poured a honey yellow color with good carbonation and a nice white cap, bubbles and some lacing
S: Some grains, grass and light bitterness on the nose
T: Some bittering hops, with grains, tad bit of grass and floral notes, hint of honey and light bread
M: Light to medium body, well carbonated
O: Not to shabby, tasty, easy to drink
Serving type: can
04-07-2012 20:02:10 | More by barleywinefiend
3.75/5 rDev +2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4
16oz can into tulip pint.
Pours a hazy golden with a thick, foamy white head.
Pleasant malty notes upfront, with a slightly cereal-like backing.
Taste is more cereal-corn with a light malt backing.
Medium to full body with average carbonation.
A good beer for what it is, though it's clearly not a very complex style.
Serving type: can
04-01-2012 06:41:03 | More by vkv822
3.43/5 rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
Poured from 16oz can into a pint glass.
Appearance: nice golden hue with a hint of haze and a nice effervescence. Head pours two good fingers of pillowy ivory foam.
Smell: light malt aroma with a hint of corn and a hint of noble-character hops. Not bad, but the corn really doesn't do it for me.
Taste: light malt with a hint of that corn and a decent hop flavor. Nice noble character with a good level of bitterness, especially for the style. Actually not too bad at all.
Mouthfeel: medium-light body with a low level of carbonation. Decent, but not very interesting.
Overall: actually a pretty tasty beer for the style. I feel like a little less attenuation and a little less corn aroma would help this beer a lot.
Serving type: can
03-23-2012 18:06:42 | More by flagmantho
3.53/5 rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
This beer is fine for what it is but it's not special. Beer is yellow and clear wtih moderate head retention and carbonation, no lacing.
Aroma is grainy and sweet with a nice yeasty breadiness to it.
Beer is light in body and has some hoppiness / bitterness to the end, unfortunately it doesn't cover up the slight grain acidity and aftertaste this beer has, overall it is fine but not great.
Serving type: can
02-19-2012 17:47:14 | More by drabmuh
4/5 rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
Thanks to Jon for passing this one along.
This pours a hazy orange with a thick white head that dies down to a ring with minimal lace. On the nose there is citric orange, wet grain, dough, and a little hop spice. In the mouth the hops open up a good deal and ride atop the doughy malt, with a small carbonation buzz leaving the hops on the tongue for a while. The body is medium light, heavier than normal for the style, but a welcome change for sure. The carbonation is much lower than I often find with the style and I don't feel full of bubbles like I usually do. There isn't a ton going on in the mouth, just good, clean bread malt with some spice and citrus over the top.
I never though I'd rate an adjunct lager this highly. If this were available here, this would be my brew of choice for summer days on the river.
Serving type: can
11-03-2011 02:08:35 | More by EricCioe
3.88/5 rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
16 oz can from the brewpub into a pint glass.
Pours a crystal clear copper, with a billowy head of white foam (that may have a touch of dirty look to it). This was a fairly foamy pour right off the bat but this does settle down pretty quickly, retaining with a frothy ¾ finger that leaves back a rich and sudsy looking cascade of lacing. The aroma smells fresh and leafy, with some spiciness to the nose that works itself in as well. This sits on top of a sweet combo of fruity flavors and lightly toasted malt character. That combo of fruit, spice, and malt is really making the nose work here.
The taste is a crisp feeling toasted sweetness, which is both firm and supportive feeling underneath a layer of spice and citric bitterness that does have a touch of aggressive to it. The overall profile is fairly smooth here on the palate, with clean and strong flavors here that finish this dry and spicy with a bit of lingering leafy bitterness. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a smooth crispness that is coming off as really easy feeling in the mouth. There is just enough sharpness to the carbonation to nicely help open up those hop flavors some.
I was a bit shocked at just how flavorful and easy drinking this ended up being for the style. This seemed like it was a bit more hopped than you would have thought but in this case, the extra fruit flavors and overall crisp oomph that they added to this really helped put this over the edge for me. This was a really pleasant surprise.
Serving type: can
10-07-2011 14:18:23 | More by Kegatron
3.33/5 rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3
Big thanks to Kegatron for giving me a pint of this after his recent trip out west. Much appreciated my friend!
Poured into a pint glass, this brew appears a very hazed golden color with 2 fingers worth of yellowish stained head. The cap recedes slowly leaving patches and finger patterns of lace all over the glass. The head maintains with nearly a finger's strength throughout the duration from the constantly rising bubbles of carbonation.
The smell of this brew initially is strikingly hoppy which really caught me off guard. It displays a scent of citrus, fruit, grass, rinds and pulp. Once you go beyond the hop character in the aroma there is a stinky aspect of something reminiscent of pilsner malt. There is a smell included almost like stinky feet and cheese mixed with sulfur.
The taste includes as much initial hop character as the aroma led on. A citrus hop bite hits the tongue first and gives way to a fruity and rind flavoring that increases with bitterness that is herbal. The bitterness brings on more of a focus on grass character that gets increasingly more vegetative as more sips are taken. There is some sulfur present as well as a light mineral feel throughout this. At times there is a mild sweetness but it gets quickly forgotten due to the overall bitter aspect of this. It displays a long lingering herbal grassy character inside the mouth long after each sip is taken.
This is a medium to light bodied brew with a modest level of carbonation. The first couple of sniffs and sips of this brew was a bit shocking but as the experience continued it got increasingly more familiar in an american adjunct kind of way. I wish I would have served this colder, perhaps that would have maintained the initial more pleasing aspects of this brew a little longer. However, when a brewery releases a beer that is their interpretation of a historical style, I am always a little awkward about reviewing it because it is so open to interpretation. For example, for a lager this brew really lacked the crispness to the finish and ease or cleanliness of drink-ability. It did display it's own unique character throughout though. I greatly enjoyed the opportunity to give this a try and would take it as a substitute any day for the typical american adjunct offering.
Serving type: can
10-01-2011 02:12:07 | More by stakem
3.68/5 rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
A: Completely hazy with a nice head and lacing
S: A bit of earthy,spicy hops and some grain and also corn
T: It has a lot of a earthy, spicy hop character with some grapefruit on the back bone. It has some corn and spicy malt character with a nice spicy yeast to pull everything together.
M: Great mouthfeel on it. It coats the tongue with a great tingling carbonation but also with a nice creaminess.
O: Overall, this is a very sessionable and tasty beer. They are definitely going for a more hoppy pre-prohibition lager, but it is done quite nicely.
Serving type: can
09-12-2011 04:42:12 | More by PaulStoneAnchor
South Carolina
4.85/5 rDev +32.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5
Pint can poured into a pils glass. Did I just pour myself an adjunct lager or a hefe? Hazy gold with a huge fluffy cap of white foam. Great retention and intricate patterns of soapy and sticky lacing all the way down the glass. Exceptional appearance.
Robust grainy and malty nose with what seems to be a blend of spicy noble and domestic citric and floral hop notes. No fizzy carbonation needed to fluff up this beer; it's thickish and chewy, not to mention damned tasty. Malts are grainy, husky and biscuity. Nice sting of bitterness and a load of spicy, citric and herbal hop flavor. Some light honey and floral sweetness. Obviously a lot of thought and preparation went into the recipe; in terms of complexity and flavor, this is far, far ahead ahead of the curve. If I still lived in Portland , this would definitely have a regular spot in the beer fridge. 1811 absolutely destroys the competition in the American Adjunct Lager category. I can't think of anything that comes remotely close.
Serving type: can
08-28-2011 15:25:48 | More by PDXHops
3.75/5 rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
Had on tap, but reviewing from a can...
Appearance: (4.0)
- Clear yellow and light copper brew, slowly bubbling. Creamy thick finger of head which has settled to a lace-making layer of thick foam, which has the appearance of lily pads.
Smell: (3.5)
- Great crisp grain aroma. Wonderful pine and grassy hop aromas. Slightly sweet, and very well rounded.
Taste: (4.0)
- Wonderful and complex grain flavors, and not overly sweet. Certainly a full flavored ale. The hop bitterness is astounding, and I quite like it. Huge zesty pine and spicy saaz hops. Overall this puppy is super full flavored for only being 5.1% Alc. by Vol. If you don't like super bitter, this isn't for you.
Mouth Feel: (3.5)
- Light to medium bodied, and well carbonated. Very drying from the mad hop bitterness. It's a touch cloying, and puckering. Slightly chewy as well. Once you swallow a gulp, you will understand why all those characteristics play a part.
Overall: (3.5)
- This is a solid, and bitter bitter brew. Many like hops for the aroma and essence. I personally like hops for the bittering properties and balancing properties. This beer isn't balanced. But it does have a solid backbone, and I love the dry bitter bite. Overall this would make a nice regular in the fridge. The 16oz. tall boys are a nice touch, as is their Vortex IPA.
Serving type: bottle
08-13-2011 06:36:44 | More by Docer
3.85/5 rDev +5.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
Pours a clear straw yellow - not inspiring, but at least the thick, fluffy white head is fairly persistent and leaves a little lacing. Aroma is malty, crisp and just a little fruity. Flavor is malty with a slightly sweet fruity underpinning and a little sharp and bitter tinniness; however, the flavor is mostly pleasant so I was able to get used to the less than pleasing component. Texture is thick, smooth and fairly fizzy. Finish is less bitter and more fruity. Maybe not the best I've had, but still worthy.
Serving type: can
07-25-2011 00:00:15 | More by Cyberkedi
3.85/5 rDev +5.5%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
Well I went all out drank it straight from the can.
This beer although being called a lager has more of a pale ale or hoppy wheat beer taste to me.
Very good alternative to macro lagers on a hot day of playing ball or doing so yard work.
Drinkable, not to hoppy, just right IMO
Serving type: can
07-23-2011 22:37:31 | More by madtappers
3.63/5 rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
A: Pours a slightly cloudy yellow color. Nice sized head with good lacing down the glass
S: Slight corn scent, lager yeast and slight grassiness
T: Slight corn flavor with a nice grassy/earthy hop bite at the end. Suprised with how hoppy this beer is.
M: Light bodied beer, carbonation is good
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Saturday, 30 July 2011
On capital punishment
Some doubt that blogger's sincerity in doing so. If he is insincere, then it would be a rather crass form of opportunism for a blogger to promote his site by urging more people to be killed than otherwise would be.
But his sincerity ultimately does not matter.
This is a debate which needs to be aired every so often, and the argument against capital punishment is one which needs to prevail - and be seen to prevail - each time the debate takes place. People's minds can be changed.
First of all, there are some easy practical points to make against capital punishment. For example, capital punishment is not actually cheaper, as the costs of the inevitable appeals and re-appeals mean that it is rather an expensive process. It also places witnesses further at risk, as the murderer now has every interest in avoiding detection and capture.
Of course, the most significant practical argument against capital punishment is that it is irreversible.
Any mistake cannot be rectified. It relies entirely on the efficacy of a criminal justice system which, at best, can lead to determinations of guilt "beyond reasonable doubt" (and that is often got wrong). The criminal justice system does not provide the means of making decisions based on absolute certainty. Indeed, each component part of the criminal justice system - police investigations, media clamour, prosecution decisions, conduct of trials, soundness of appeals - can go wrong. There is nothing to suggest that the judicial taking of human life would be based on any infallible process.
Then there are the points to be made about the intellectual confusion of many who support capital punishment. There are the "libertarians" who do not accept that the State has the legitimacy or competence to administer taxes or provide the police with powers but then contend that the State can rightly and safely take lives. There are those religious fundamentalists who blithely disregard the imperatives of their own holy texts.
And then there are those who favour the deterrence argument, who contend that the deliberate taking of life by the State somehow sends a signal that the deliberate taking of life is wrong. Even on its own terms, taking a life as a "deterrent" is manifestly unjust: it means that the punishment is not on the basis of the facts of its own case, but on the basis of speculation about incidents which may never exist.
However, none of the above points are conclusive, even if they are compelling to any sensible person. One could accept all the points so far made and still, in one's gut, believe that capital punishment is not wrong and so should be made available to the courts, perhaps only in exceptional circumstances.
This is the view which I am seeking to challenge.
Such a sentiment is often premised on murder being a uniquely bad crime and that it is not capable of being punished by mere imprisonment.
That murder is a uniquely bad crime is generally correct (though there are other serious offences against the person which also render the victim with a life which is effectively over).
The deliberate taking of life is a revolting act which requires severe punishment.
However, it does not follow that for the State to then deliberately take the murderer's life that there has been some morally right outcome.
The deliberate taking of life is still absolutely wrong, even when it is orchestrated by police, lawyers, and executioners. All one has achieved is another moral wrong.
Capital punishment is wrong because it formally requires other people to be complicit in the deliberate taking of human life.
One may have the enthusiast who would "pull the lever themselves" but one often gets people who want to kill others for the "right reason".
But capital punishment demands more than a willing executioner and cheering spectators; it needs for the whole of the State apparatus to be augmented so that the end of a given formal process is the deliberate killing of a human being. The absolute wrongness of the original act is then repeated by the State on our behalf.
This is why capital punishment can be fairly said to be barbaric. It takes something which is wrong, and then projects it on the political and legal institutions of the State: it makes repeating that wrong a purpose of public policy.
And this is not to be a "bleeding heart liberal" about murderers. One can readily support "life meaning life" with no possibility of parole.
But killing people, like torturing people, is wrong; and is still wrong when it is arranged and done by officials on our behalf.
Two wrongs make two wrongs.
(As a footnote, I supported capital punishment as a teenager. I was brought up in a Tory environment, and I held many illiberal views about "law-and-order". But with the patience and kindness of decent sensible people my opinions were challenged and exposed as incorrect and inhumane; because of this I arrived at all the positions I set out above. That is why I regard engaging in debates as important. The devil may well have the best tunes; but the liberals will usually turn out to have the better arguments.)
Also see this excellent post by Charon QC, doyen of legal bloggers, setting the background to the current debate.
No purely anonymous comments will be published; always use a name for ease of reference by other commenters.
45 comments:
- Mr Civil Libertaian said...
"And then there are those who favour the deterrence argument, who contend that the deliberate taking of life by the State somehow sends a signal that the deliberate taking of life is wrong."
I fear you give the advocates too much credit; I have heard the deterrence argument many times before. The problem is, it doesn't take the form of "It sends a message to others", but is very often "It stops that particular criminal re offending, so it must be a deterrent".
- 30 July 2011 13:47
Please, I beg of you. Don't make this another right vs left issue. It isn't. You can take a right wing economic stance and still have a liberal approach to law and order. I am a Tory and completely against capital punishment. Do not tar us all with the same brush, please.
The intelligent, dispassionate view always has to be anti capital punishment.
- 30 July 2011 13:48
- Damo said...
'Reasonable doubt' is surely the key issue. Significant mistakes were made in high profile cases in the mid twentieth century that led to capital punishment being abolished in the first place.
If it were to be re-instated, it It is hard to imagine that the same mistakes would not be made in 5, 10, 20 years time and innocent people would pay the price.
- 30 July 2011 13:49
I'm going to vote for it, not because i think it will happen (indeed I'm sure it won't see light of day), but because it may lead to sterner sentences as a consequence.
For I believe that life inprisonment should be closer to life, not what it's become.
- 30 July 2011 13:52
Capital punishment vs life in prison costs. The US seems to have a very long drawn out appeals process, with some inmates on death row for a decade or more. But in the UK, was it not typically the case that only a matter of a few weeks elapsed between sentencing and execution?
If it were reintroduced would we have a similar scenario as now exists in America?
- 30 July 2011 13:55
- Jamie Graham said...
The pro-state murder people tend to have a stereotype in mind when they think of a "typical" murderer: male, young, sneering, (non-)working class, possibly of a different race, someone they've never met. The problem is, as with all stereotypes, it isn't true. There isn't a typical murderer and the law cannot make exceptions for those who don't fit the profile that the sponsors of such legislation had in mind.
Because a man can generally kill a woman with his bare hands but a woman generally can't kill a man that way, when women kill their abusive husbands it's usually premeditated and done when he is asleep or drugged or drunk. Premeditated murder of someone previously incapacitated is seen as the worst of all murders, even though the woman in question murders her husband to save her own life. The legal system doesn't make exceptions; the woman would hang, law in action but no justice. Meanwhile, the drunken wifebeater murders his wife accidentally when 'just' meaning to give her another beating. That he was drunk and didn't mean to kill gets taken into account; the man goes to prison *for the same crime the woman hangs for*, again showing us the might of the law but a lack of justice.
Then there's someone who kills when they're young, is never found and forty years pass, during which they have a family and are never arrested for anything else. One day, new evidence comes to light, the grandfather in his 60s is arrested, tried and hanged, because the law cannot make exceptions. I can see the law working here, but not justice.
Then there's the Bulger killers. They were 11 years old. We tried them as adults. There was a baying mob throwing bricks at the police vans as they left court. That mob, presumably, would've torn them apart - killing two 11 year old boys. The pro-death camp may well have been amongst the mob; the law doesn't make exceptions - the mob would have to go to the gallows. And that mob was loudly calling for the execution of two 11 year old boys, because once you have the death penalty, the tabloids and the mob will shout for its ever-wider use. Some in the mob, claiming to be reasonable, said boys should be executed when they turned 18. Really? On their birthdays? A few weeks later? How long will you wait for it, mob? Whatever, we just see the law in action again - but never any justice.
The death penalty is like a nuclear weapon: you can debate having one or not, but you should still never use it; it does far more damage than can ever be justified.
- 30 July 2011 13:55
- ObiterJ said...
I have no intention of entering this latest outburst of madness. You are right - period!
- 30 July 2011 14:03
- Paul said...
As far as I can see, the main reason for renewed calls for capital punishment is that sentencing has been cut and cut in many ways.
If a life sentence for a cold blooded murder actually meant that the murderer would never walk free, then capital punishment becomes an economic argument.
But if 'life' can actually mean only seven years safely off the streets, then something more is wanted by the populace.
Retraining, social conditionng and all the other good things our prison system try to do fail in a lot of cases. They will never be 100%. So are we happy to accept that a fairly high proportion of people who commit crimes for which the sentence used to be 'in prison until you die' are now back amongst the innocent public, unrehabilitated, after only a decade or so?
- 30 July 2011 14:06
- blondpidge said...
I would agree but also go a little further. Life imprisonment without the possibility of parole is also ethically contentious. A civilised and compassionate society should also offer the opportunity of redemption and rehabilitation.
Though I anticipate the usual howls of outrage and "what about Venables" remarks, justice is not purely concerned with retribution and vengeance. To lock someone up for life with no absolutely hope of release is almost as barbaric as the death penalty.
Prison needs to be reformative as well as punitive. Unless someone is clearly dangerous, then they should not serve an indefinite sentence.
- 30 July 2011 14:13
- The Heresiarch said...
I'm pretty firmly against the death penalty, but there's one circumstance in which I would find it quite hard to argue against. And that is where these conditions are satisfied:
1) The criminal admits his guilt (and is mentally competent)
2) The sentence of the court is life imprisonment without parole
3) Given a free choice between life imprisonment and death, the prisoner CHOOSES to die.
- 30 July 2011 14:21
Thanks for this. Capital punishment is wrong for so many reasons, good to see many of them articulated here. For me it's some kind of litmus test of our retreat back into the Dark Ages: we'll know we've arrived if/when capital punishment is re-introduced.
- 30 July 2011 14:25
- Martin Budden said...
The arguments
"It takes something which is wrong, and then projects it on the political and legal institutions of the State: it makes repeating that wrong a purpose of public policy."
"But killing people, like torturing people, is wrong; and is still wrong when it is arranged and done by officials on our behalf."
also apply to the act of waging war. (By waging war, I do not include responding to attack on oneself or one of one's allies (by treaty)).
Given your changing views on a number of subjects since when you were a teenager, I am curious to know where you stand on the issue of war (and in particular the issue of 'liberal intervention').
- 30 July 2011 14:30
Perhaps the arguments, sentiments even, against capital punishment are well summarised in the recent tweet that has been doing the rounds:
Ragnhild Holmas
G.W. Bush, 9/11: "We're gonna hunt you down." Stoltenberg, 22/7: "We will retaliate with more democracy". I'm proud to be Norwegian.
- 30 July 2011 14:31
- Benulek said...
"There are the "libertarians" who do not accept that the State has the legitimacy or competence to administer taxes or provide the police with powers but then contend that the State can rightly and safely take lives."
Which deals neatly with the faux-libertarian in question. My objection to capital punishment is simple: I assert that the state has no right to make me as a taxpayer indirectly complicit in a process intended to culminate in the killing of a specific individual. I'm surprised that this argument doesn't appeal to Paul Staines, given how contemptuous he usually is of any attempt by the state to arrogate to itself any authority to do anything.
- 30 July 2011 14:38
- Maria Wolters said...
There should be plenty of hard data (hopefully, she says) from the US showing the many ways in which the death penalty does not work. I'm trying to crowdsource some here, not having the relevant social sciences background:
For those who are wondering how to deal with an unspeakable crime where the murderer has been found guilty without a doubt, I have one word for you: Norway.
- 30 July 2011 14:54
- The King of Wrong said...
the most significant practical argument against capital punishment is that it is irreversible
So is any punishment.
You can't un-punish someone. You can't un-beat them. You can't make it so they didn't spend time in jail. They can't un-drop the soap.
The argument that capital punishment is bad because it can't be reversed is an argument that it's OK to punish the innocent, that it's fine to lock someone up for decades, because if you're wrong you can stop punishing them.
I don't hold with that.
- 30 July 2011 15:32
- SteelMagnolia said...
Hello David,
I question a blogger who has an impressive amount of followers and also respected by many, I include myself in that group to choose NOW to raise such a hot topic. To me it is as though he wishes to move on from Hackgate or at least divert interest when the investigation moves on to more murkier ground involving Ian hurst / Martin Ingram / Stakeknife. I also have a feeling very soon we will be hearing the name Jonathon Rees
As for the death penalty, until we can clean England of the corruption that has been exposed by Murdochs toxic power, what right has anyone to judge a criminal when those in power seem to be just that themselves, criminals of the highest order.
- 30 July 2011 15:43
I remain ambivalent on the subject. But there are several arguments against the death penalty which need to be examined, if not actually challenged.
Deterence. Deterence should form part of any sentence for a criminal offence. The fact that there is scarce evidence one way or the other on the deterrent effect of the death sentence makes the whole argument emotional rather than rational.
The State's moral authority. If the state has no moral right to sanction the death penalty (I'm paraphrasing here) equally it cannot morally sanction the use of lethal force by going to war, or by condoning extra-judicial killing as in the case of Jean Charles de Menezes. How can it be justifiable to kill one person in order to prevent death or injury to others?
Proetction of society from repeat offenders. I have no statistics on this but it is fair to say that it has been known that a person may commit murder a second time having been released after the first sentence. Whilst this is certainly no argument for the death penalty it is an argument for better custodial policy and less liberal mindedness where serious offenders have been identified. While we may think of ourselves as civilised, one wonders why we destroy dangerous dogs after one 'offence' yet assume all our fellow humans are redeemable!
- 30 July 2011 15:47
If we have a person who has been sentenced to death, then they are presumably at our mercy. Killing them now will not bring anyone back, it won't save us any money (although the financial argument is trite) and if they are jailed for life they will not go out and hurt again. Why, then, do it? Ultimately is because it will make those who advocate capital punishment feel better.
Read that again. These people want to kill others to feel good. If you defend capital punishment then I will usually assume you are unaware of the arguments against it. Otherwise I would have to accept that you want to kill someone to make yourself feel better.
That's not cool, man.
- 30 July 2011 15:48
- Elizabeth said...
I thought Guido was fine taking on Piers Moron (I can't remember his real name because I read Private Eye too much) but this thing about Bring Back Hanging -- it's ridiculous. Will lose him a lot of readers.
- 30 July 2011 15:55
- BobRocket said...
I don't agree with capital punishment because I believe it will lead to more juries finding a defendant 'not guilty' simply because they do not want to be the person to send another person to die.
- 30 July 2011 16:01
- morungos said...
I'm amazed that the blogger concerned raised the Baby P case as the basis for his petition, saying
100,000 voters sign the petition we have a chance of getting real justice for the next Baby P (from: http://bit.ly/qoNldz)
Although this seems a clear cut case, there are similar ones where serious miscarriages of justice have been a significant problem. In Ontario, a leading pathologist (Charles Smith) gave authoritative but totally wrong testimony, leading to numerous convictions for murder of children which were later overturned, as much as 15 years later. A public inquiry is looking into 220 cases based on his evidence.
It seems likely that one or more of these would have led to the death penalty, if it had been available and on the basis desired by this particular blogger.
Now, imagine if you were the parent of a child that had died in these unfortunate but accidental circumstances, and were on the receiving end of this testimony. You could be killed for it.
Who gains from this? Everyone involved is contaminated by the debasement of humanity that arises from the death penalty. It's not justice, it's burying the problem -- literally.
- 30 July 2011 16:10
- Ewan said...
I should probably start by saying that I agree with the conclusion; the death penalty is a bad idea, but I'm not sure that these arguments against it are as watertight as you seem to think:
"For example, capital punishment is not actually cheaper, as the costs of the inevitable appeals and re-appeals mean that it is rather an expensive process."
The US certainly has many layers and years of drawn out appeals, but many of the seem to be redundant; essentially just repeat rounds or the condemned saying that he doesn't want to die, and the state saying it does want him to. Since nothing has usually changed since the sentence was originally imposed, it stands. It is certainly possible to conceive of a death penalty system with no more appeals than are currently allowed for life imprisonment cases. Further, I rather suspect that the system envisioned my those advocating the return of the death penalty would not include multiple US style appeals, and if that were the case, then this simply wouldn't be an argument against what they're advocating, but an argument against something similar, but different.
"Of course, the most significant practical argument against capital punishment is that it is irreversible. Any mistake cannot be rectified."
That is equally true of imprisonment. Letting someone out doesn't reverse the effects of locking them up in the first place (indeed, if it did it would make it rather pointless to lock criminals up at all); if someone is wrongly imprisoned they have lost a chunk of their life that they can quite literally never get back. Once someone sentenced to death is dead it's all over for them - there's no ongoing unpleasantness. There's clearly a question over which is actually a worse thing to do to someone - if you consider the total suffering imposed by a quick drug induced death, or looking forward to living the whole of the rest of one's life incarcerated, it's not clear that death is worse. Indeed, given a straight choice between the two, I'm pretty sure I know what I'd prefer for myself.
"Even on its own terms, taking a life as a "deterrent" is manifestly unjust: it means that the punishment is not on the basis of the facts of its own case, but on the basis of speculation about incidents which may never exist."
That may be true, but applies equally to other sentences issued for deterrent effect, which they are, routinely.
"But killing people, like torturing people, is wrong; and is still wrong when it is arranged and done by officials on our behalf. Two wrongs make two wrongs."
Again, this applies equally to any other sentence. Locking people up, taking away their money, or forcing them to work for nothing, are all wrong, and indeed, would all be illegal if done by a private individual. That doesn't stop the state imposing sentences of imprisonment, fines, or unpaid work. The principle that, after due process, the state may do something unpleasant to someone that would otherwise be quite wrong, is deeply woven in to the system as it stands now.
- 30 July 2011 16:29
- The King of Wrong said...
Jack (15:48) said:
These people want to kill others to feel good.
You're projecting. While I appreciate that it's nice to demonise those who disagree with you and to imagine that they have some sort of heinous mental deficiency, the truth is far simpler.
Actions have consequences.
For a huge number of people, the consequence of murder (and similarly serious crimes) is that you forfeit your right to continued existence.
- 30 July 2011 16:39
The King of Wrong: What takes you from 'Actions have consequences' to 'The consequence of A committing murder is A's life being taken'?
That's the point I'm driving at. There is no (justifiable) reasoning behind it and, when all the arguments are exhausted, it falls down to simply wanting to feel better that the big, bad (or, more probably, 'evil') murderer has been killed and now we can all celebrate.
- 30 July 2011 18:10
The King of Wrong: I will clarify what I was trying to say. I wasn't projecting for my own convenience. Someone jumping from 'Actions have consequences' to 'Murderers should be killed' are unjustified (once the debate has progressed). Often they will concede that their arguments from an instrumental angle (deterrent, financial, etc.) fail.
This is when the debate tends to lead to intrinsic angles. The idea that it is 'just' or other such metaphysically contentious things tends to, when fleshed out, result in that they should be given the death penalty because everyone will feel a bit better about the event.
- 30 July 2011 18:23
But currently, death is not a consequence of any offence. It would only become a consequence if people decided they want it to be, so David's connection is unavoidable.
- 30 July 2011 18:25
A couple of comments have referred to the fact that you can't 'undo' a custodial sentence, and that this seems to invalidate the 'irreversible' argument against capital punishment. For example, Ewan states:
"There's clearly a question over which is actually a worse thing to do to someone - if you consider the total suffering imposed by a quick drug induced death, or looking forward to living the whole of the rest of one's life incarcerated, it's not clear that death is worse. Indeed, given a straight choice between the two, I'm pretty sure I know what I'd prefer for myself."
This seems to miss the crucial point that if you, the defendant, *know* that you are innocent, a custodial sentence gives you, your supporters and your legal team, time to continue protesting your innocence - hopefully to achieve a pardon. The 'irreversible' argument is inextricably linked with the potential for miscarriage of justice and the fallibility of the justice system, and should be viewed in that context.
I cannot imagine a situation where, after being imprisoned for a crime I didn't commit, I wouldn't devote the rest of my days to proving my innocence. Something I would be unable to do from beyond the grave.
- 30 July 2011 18:49
- Alistair Sloan said...
"But if 'life' can actually mean only seven years safely off the streets, then something more is wanted by the populace." (Paul at 14:06)
Part of the problem Paul is that the populace don't really understand the life sentence system at all, partly down (in my view) to the way such sentences are reported and a lack of desire to find out what is actually true. I recently wrote about the life sentence to try and deal with some of the misconceptions (full article can be read at http://scotslaw.wordpress.com/2011/05/30/life-sentences/). In preparing that article I contacted HM Prison Service to get some figures and they informed me that as at 27 November 2010 (the last date figures were held at the time of the FOI request) there were 7,656 life sentence prisoners in custody in England and Wales, of those some 2,874 had passed their "tariff" (the number of years that must be served before the prisoner can apply for parole). In other words these people had served that part of their sentence, but were considered by the Parole Board to be too dangerous to the public to be released.
- 30 July 2011 19:12
- Pink Politika said...
I can remember (as a child) when the UK still had the death penalty. Even at my young age, I felt sick every time this penalty was announced on the news. Never, ever is it justified.
Did you know that it seems most UK judicial executioners apparently ended up taking their own lives? What might that tell us, I wonder?
And of course what applies to the fate of state executioners here often, tragically, applies also to, e.g., the children of people who are executed. They also I believe tend to kill themselves, often many years later, after decades of state-inflicted torment.
The death penalty is an abhorence. It's also a direct crime against other, innocent, people.
I have given thanks many, many times over the past decades, as I hear of state-inflicted attrocities elsewhere, that I do not live in a place where others may legally impose premediated, targeted extermination.
It is one of the greatest achievements of a Europe united in a sense of human decency, that Europeans are not judicially killed by the hand of their fellow citizens.
NO. NO. NO. The very idea is barbaric. NO.
- 30 July 2011 19:56
The whole argument of the "harsher the sentance the less crime" is pretty much rubbish. The single biggest thing that brings down crime is to create a more income equal society.
Increased sentences and the death penalty don't appear to reduce crime (well not many people expect to get caught do they).
Whilst I agree there should be a degree of punishment there should be a much greater emphasis within our justice system for rehabilitation so these people can get out and actually contribute.
The other thing to consider is the crime committed on the inside of prisons. Give someone nothing to live for and they become dangerous (and expensive) to look after.
- 30 July 2011 20:00
- David Carradice said...
Surely just one wrong committal is enough to say that the death penalty is wrong. http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/issues/death-penalty/us-death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-and-innocence
If a Life sentence meant a more substantial imprisoned period behind bars, rather than the cursory internment we appear to see today, wouldn't this be justice served? I'm not saying we should make life easy for the crime. Taking away someone's liberty and the good things in life can be redressed in those cases in error. Taking away someone's life cannot.
- 30 July 2011 20:12
There is said to be a majority in favour of capital punishment. We need to ask that majority, 'would you personally be prepared to inject the lethal shot; turn on the switch or place the rope around another person's neck and then remove the floor on which they stand?' If their answer is 'no' then they cannot, in all that is fair, expect someone else to do it on behalf of them or the state.
I suspect that might shrink that majority considerably.
- 30 July 2011 20:40
- redwinter101 said...
Great, thoughtful article and comments. I apologise for reiterating some points already made.
On the deterrence issue, I've never seen any evidence to support the theory that a crime was averted because the criminal knew the offence carried a capital punishment, nor that those who have committed capital crimes (in countries where the death penalty exists) were ignorant of the consequences if they were caught and found guilty.
On retribution, for me there's a wider issue about the purpose of punishment. Is it for the specific victims, for the benefit of wider society, for future protection of the public or should there always be a presumption of some element of rehabilitation? I can remember the person I was 20 years ago. Although I never committed a crime I was a completely different person from the person I am now. Life and experience change us all (thank God) and I cannot get past the notion of capital punishment as the ultimate acceptance that you will never be more than you were at the point you committed that terrible crime.
While I understand the financial arguments, for me, that's a non-issue. This is life or death and cost doesn't come into it.
I echo the thoughts of the commenter who said they didn't want any part of a state that would kill a fellow citizen. And I think there is more than sufficient evidence that innocent people have been (and continue to be) executed.
Finally, I love living in a country that says no, this is not who we are and not what we do. Capital punishment is the ultimate admission of failure by any state - it's saying "We failed; we can do no more" and I don't believe that. It is one of my (few) points of pride that our legislature holds to this principle, even though all polls suggest a majority in the country support a reinstatement of capital punishment.
(Re the eager "I'll pull the lever" brigade, I have two words: Nicholas Winterton.)
I have held these views (dearly) for many years). I hope that if I lose a friend or family member to a "capital" crime, I would have the strength to continue to hold them, because I do know it's always easier when you've got no skin in the game.
- 30 July 2011 21:01
@Yvonne Johnston.
With the greatest respect that argument is nonsense. If extended to other areas of life where we expect our government to provide for us, we would need the majority to agree to act as parking wardens, front line soldiers, sewage workers and a host of other jobs which we as a society require to be done, but on our behalf rather than by us personally. Could you kill a sweet little kitten? Should vets therefore be made illegal beccause they daily have to put down animals who are suffering and cannot be treated? Or could you kill and butcher a cow? So should abattoirs be closed and the 'majority' have to stop eating meat based on the same argument?
- 30 July 2011 21:51
Lets say we reintroduced capital punishment. From a pragmatic perspective, what would happen? Well, it would run counter to protocol 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights. We would almost certainly have to leave the Council of Europe, not to mention the EU. That jeopardizes $220bn-odd worth of British exports into fellow EU member states, almost all of which would have to be renegotiated.
Want to do bring in harsher sentencing; fine. I for one support locking up people for long stretches. Increase sentences, scale back discounts for early guilty pleas and make all mitigation (and aggravation) subject to a finding of fact. Ok, it would massively increase the prison population, but perhaps that's a good thing. It would throw a bone to the tabloid reading masses, and a scheme of mass prison building could form part of a Keynesian stimulus to get the economy back on track!
- 30 July 2011 23:17
@Andy J
To paraphrase the Game of Thrones.
"If you would take a man's life you owe it to him to look into his eyes and hear his final words. And if you cannot bear to do that, then perhaps the man does not deserve to die... A ruler who hides behind paid executioners soon forgets what death is."
On the point about vets, I confess I once put a creature out of its misery with my own hands. A soulful moment.
- 30 July 2011 23:23
The Sun yesterday led with a front-page splash supporting Paul Staines' campaign, with grainy black and white photographs of the last two men to be hanged in Britain in August 1964. The caption under the pictures read "Final hangings ...Allen and Evans".
The Evans in question was Gwynne Owen Evans, but older readers may have been prompted to remember Timothy Evans who was wrongly convicted and hanged for another murder.
Of course, The Sun wasn't about to remind its readers that innocent men and women were hanged in Britain when we had the death penalty. Or that there have been scores of miscarriages of justice since 1964 which would have led to many more executions of innocent people.
Equally predictable were the stupid Tory MPs who are apparently backing the Staines campaign. One of them, Philip Davies, said he would like to go further and restore the death penalty for ALL murders.
For those of us who thought that the debate on capital punishment was finished with years ago, here is a powerful reminder that populist charlatans and idiot MPs are always with us.
- 31 July 2011 08:51
- The King of Wrong said...
What takes you from 'Actions have consequences' to 'The consequence of A committing murder is A's life being taken'?
Any of a number of ethical systems.
There are Utilitarian arguments of cost, of minimising pain across society, of the greater good.
There are Deontological arguments - probably the most popular being Divine Command, we have a duty to execute murderers.
There are Teleological arguments - if the end of A no longer existing is a good thing, then so must be the means.
None of which you'll accept, because you've already made up your mind against capital punishment.
There is no (justifiable) reasoning behind it
There is no justifiable reasoning against it, either. In the end, it all comes down to whether a murderer is the same as an innocent person, and no amount of logic or rhetoric can provide the answer there.
So now we're in a pit of moral relativism wrestling over whose gut instinct is right.
- 31 July 2011 09:32
@ Jon D.
Thank you for the paraphrased quotation. Regretably a quotation (ie another person's opinion) however lyrical is hardly a counter argument. I maintain my point that the conjecture that many if not most people who would like to bring back the death penalty could not actually perform an execution is not a cogent reason against bringing it back.
- 31 July 2011 10:55
- Libelittle said...
I think most of what I think has already been said, so I won't reiterate beyond this: excellent post, thank you.
Two minor points which haven't been dealt with:
1) We can look at the deterrence argument in the context of populist legislation and attitudes which would see an expansion in the use of capital punishment, were it to be reinstated. The eventual end-point of this course of action is the historical use of the death penalty in the 18th Century. Not that I believe things would ever reach that stage - but why even take one step down that road?
2) Bruce - you say you would vote for capital punishment not because you want it, but because you think it would result in harsher sentences being imposed as an alternative. While that could happen, 'tactical voting' in this context seems a very dangerous abuse of democratic process. There are other channels for you to pursue your actual aims, and the idea of publicly showing your (pretence of) support for capital punishment - let alone potentially participating in re-establishing it - just to make a point seems utterly repugnant at worst, and wildly irresponsible at best. I would counsel you first to read the posts above concerning the true nature of life sentences and the actual effect of harsher sentences, and then to write to your MP if you still take issue.
- 31 July 2011 12:17
- CrescentMan said...
My belief is that if as a society we argue that the taking of life is morally wrong then allowing capital punishment places us in the same moral category as the murderer. By rejecting capital punishment we are placing ourselves on a morally higher plane.
BUT of course this is undermined by the legitimised murder our armed forces are expected to perform. I would like to see us reject state violence too.
- 1 August 2011 09:21
- The Custody Sgt said...
The justice system is not infallible and as such the death penalty has to be wrong.
Garrow's Law gives a good indication of mob rule and how a court room can be filled with discreditable witnesses and compurgators leading to conviction and death of innocent people.
Sometimes general society, when emotions ate running high, needs protecting from itself. We are as a society supposed to be moving forward. Not backward.
- 1 August 2011 13:33
One of the most common arguments for capital punishment is that is claimed to be a deterrent. I believe I'm right in saying that research has generally disproved this argument or, at least, not found there to be a significant increase in murder since capital punishment was abolished.
- 3 August 2011 16:53
- Pigasus said...
Pardon my trampling through here. Much of this has been said before and my points will wander off your main topic.
1) Strapping a person to a table and killing them is barbaric. To say that a society has no other solution to their problems is to say that society has failed.
2) The death penalty is not a deterrent. The US has jurisdictions with and without the death penalty. The violent crime numbers are the same.
3) As you said, it is irreversible. In the US, we know we have killed innocent people in our execution chambers. It's an unacceptable risk for a freedom loving society to accept.
4) It amazes me that there are electorates naive enough to empower their governments to kill them.
5) In the US jurors can be pre-screened to be willing to apply the death penalty. Would you want to be an innocent man standing in front of such a jury?
6) In my experience, any sufficiently lengthy conversation with a death penalty proponent will eventually involve religion. Those that believe in an afterlife are less concerned about the death penalty. A repentant bad guy could go to heaven. Your religious beliefs are exactly that, your religious beliefs. Applying these beliefs as part of a judicial process is wrong.
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The answer to your question is no. Each of the valves would have to be antisyphon. Hopefully you are on flat ground, because the valves have to stand higher than the sprinkler heads and pipes.
Hello all,This is my first post here... so glad I found this forum. I'm getting ready to dig up my yard to put in a sprinkler system. I'm looking at 4-5 irrigation zones. My question is if I use 4-5 automatic in-line valves can I get away with using one antisiphon valve before the manifold? Does anyone have a diagram or schematic drawing of a basic 4-5 zoned set up? Thanks in advance,george
The answer to your question is no. Each of the valves would have to be antisyphon. Hopefully you are on flat ground, because the valves have to stand higher than the sprinkler heads and pipes.
Since you are concerned with antisyphon valves you must be using domestic water. Here's a brief description of my system that has worked well for over 20 years. I have a tee in the main supply line. One side of course if for the house and the other is for irrigation. I have a stop and waste valve in the irrigation line right after the tee. From the tee, I come up with 1" copper to about 18" below the surface of the ground. That's where my back flow preventer is located. This is a Watts unit that is attached to the intake and outlet pipes with unions. The outlet pipe is 1" copper for about 3" then transitions to 1-1/2" PVC that runs 30' to my manifold which has 4 electric valves. The zones branch for there. I also have one 1" PVC that is under pressure at all times for hose bibs. Everything is underground. In the fall, I remove the back flow preventer and blow each zone with compressed air. The back flow preventer is stored inside just to be absolutely certain it will not freeze if I don't get all of the water out. In the spring or early summer, my city requires the back flow be recertified by a licensed inspector. With my system, the controller is located in my basement just inside of where the manifold and valves are located so there is no lengthy wiring to worry about.
Washington State doesn't yet have the requirement that the lawn sprinkler backflow be toxic-rated. While cheaper than the DCVA used in WA, the antisyphon valves are toxic-rated and can comply with the higher standards of other states.
Guess I'm behind times. I have no clue what this "toxic rating" is. I would have to assume Wet Boots is correct however, what I use now is the same as I started with 20+ years ago. I did have tor replace the original BF preventer a number of years ago, but the replacement was essentially the same as the original. I'll take this as a heads up for something that will probably become a requirement for me sooner or later. Thanks!
A single approved antisiphon/backflow preventer DOES replace the individual ones on the valves. However, the ones on the valves are atmospheric type, while the common one has to be either a pressure or reduced pressure principal one, depending on your area's requirements.
The "toxic" question comes in when codes take into account the nature of the possible backflow. If the code declares the water in a sprinkler system to be toxic, then the backflow preventers required by the code will be rated to protect against toxic backflow. Double Check Valve Assembly devices are not rated for toxic backflow, so they are no longer approved by many states.
There are two ways to define the dividing line on backflow, and lawn sprinkler systems can be on one side or another. If the words "toxic" and "non-toxic" are used, the sprinkler system will very likely be defined as toxic, and the code will not allow the DCVA. If, instead, the words are "high-hazard" and "low-hazard", then the lawn sprinkler system may be classified as low-hazard, and the DCVA can be used.
If someone asks about lawn sprinkler backflow, I would point them towards backflow that is toxic-rated, because codes get tighter, but rarely get looser, and old backflow is not likely to be grandfathered when codes get tighter. And since most posts do not state a location, I would never assume the poster could actually use the DCVA.
The least expensive single device for backflow prevention, upstream of a group of zone valves, is the Pressure Vacuum Breaker. It is toxic-rated, and must be installed so that the device is at least a foot higher than any pipe or sprinkler downstream of it.
Remove the word 'antisiphon' to be more correct,
Remove that recommendation to be correct. The pressure vacuum breaker/backflow preventer does both. The air gap/float performs the "antisiphon" feature, and the spring loaded piston does the backflow function. A simple check valve will prevent/minimize backflow, and an atmospheric vacuum breaker will take care of siphonage. But NEITHER can perform both functions.
I do not know of any code that ever approved a DCVA for irrigation purposes, since siphonage was always the major concern, given that there was seldom any way for the downstream portion to be independently pressurized, unless it was a dual fed system and that creates its own set of problems.
Last edited by hj; 02-29-2008 at 06:11 AM.
You haven't been getting around. The DCVA is standard irrigation usage in the state of Washington, and in others as well. Many towns in New Jersey had ordinances requiring DCVA usage. That made things interesting when the state moved to use BOCA codes and the National Standard Plumbing Code, which removed the DCVA from irrigation usage.I do not know of any code that ever approved a DCVA for irrigation purposes, since siphonage was always the major concern, given that there was seldom any way for the downstream portion to be independently pressurized, unless it was a dual fed system and that creates its own set of problems.


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So, here's my situation:
I have an iPhone 3GS with fw 3.1.3, bb 05.12.01 and new bootloader. I'm stuck at the emergency call screen because I cannot activate it via iTunes (I don't have the official carrier sim).
I was thinking that maybe a restore with a custom firmware (activated one) will somehow fix my problem and I can at least use my device as an iPod (until an unlock will be available for either 3.1.3 or 4.0 when released).
I downloaded an activated fw with 3.1.3 but when trying to restore via iTunes I get the 1600 error.
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1. Do I need to trick iTunes to communicate with saurik's server (as I have the 3.1.3 blobs saved there) or I should leave the hosts file untouched (iTunes communicating with apple server)?
2. Is it actually possible to perform a custom restore on a Windows 7 machine? (maybe it's a silly question but hey, I'm kinda' beginner in this)
3. Maybe I'm missing something in the whole restore process.. Anybody sees something strange in the process:
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- Shift+Restore in iTunes with custom firmware
- get error 1600
- I have to mention again that at the moment the iPhone is NOT activated (I'm at the emergency call screen)
- The device was jailbroken in the past with blackra1n
Thanks in advance