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Dear Colleagues,
I can't take credit for this question. I read this article by Rosita Force and thought it would make a great discussion question and would like your thoughts.
"Smartboards, activity boarss, ELMO'S, Macbooks, Senteo Clickers, iPods - these are a few items that distinguish a 21st Century classroom from one stuck in the darness of the 20thCentury. But do they gaurantee our studsents will be able to solve 21st Century problems?"
So what do you think, Do Smartboards make smart students?
A good teacher is a good teacher and good teachers facilitate learning. I don't like the idea of a "smart" v. "non smart" student. An effective teacher is going to make every effort to reach her student.
I think a better question is - do smartboards create more effective teachers? My answer being - it depends what you do with it. I taught several days of Smartboard PD in a school recently that had these boards in every classroom. Every single classroom. I ended my training there seeing very clearly that some students were going to have amazing, dynamic, student directed, interactive learning experiences and others were not BUT I wouldn't go so far as to say that those teachers who chose not to use the boards were automatically going to be less effective than those who chose to use the boards.
Smartboards (interactive white boards) are tools to help teach students. It does not make smarter students. However, when used correctly, students are more engaged in the lesson. If they are more engaged and interested in the lesson, learning should be increased. I have found that even students with ADHD are able to pay closer attention to the lesson. As teacher of learning disabled students, my students do much better when they are able to have hands on lessons. I can create a hands on lesson for almost any subject using the interactive whiteboard.
You might be interested in this web site on Thinkfinitiy.org: http://thinkfinity.org/student-interactives It consolidates all of the Thinkfinity interactives in one URL.
Enjoy, and spread the word.
I can't get this link to work. Do you know if it's been changed?
Hi Theresa,
The link on Thinkfinity.org's site to the interactives http://thinkfinity.org/student-interactives appears to be working fine. Hopefully, the link for you works now. It is a phenomenal resource where teachers can find so many hands-on activities to use for various subjects and grade levels. I was thrilled when Thinkfinity added this page. It's so easy to use links there versus going to the partner sites and locating their interactives. Both ways work, but the index is awesome!
Great resource, thanks
Thank you for sharing the site. I'm new to the community and Thinkfinity, so any help I can get to simplify my search is wonderful!
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The question is phrased incorrectly. I know that I when I have better tools in the classroom, I can teach a class faster and with greater comprehension and retention. I go as far as to say I can teach the class up to 50% faster, regardless of what the topic is.
It depends how the lesson is designed. A tool is a tool, it's what you do with it. Just having a Smart Board in the classroom doesn't guarantee that the lessons will be better.
Smartboards support efficiency in planning, presenting and connecting to a broader array of resources. It's live, current and an opportunity to serve a large group if you properly. All members of the room can interact and participate.
The question immediately brought to mind Google's WAVE technology which seems like an even better "digital whiteboard." But I can't help wondering why we seem so fixated on the "clever paper metaphor", rather than then explore completely different mechanisms. Like the semantic web, which seems well suited to make what is being learned more tangible. In the "civic technology" (that I am looking for help in designing,) the units of curricula are broken down into a list of related concepts that children work together to organize into a self-consistent ontology. In essence, instead of asking them to learn the material, it asks them to teach it to the computer.
I have worked for 3 years with only my computer in the class room. After much pleading, I received 3 student computers and a Smart Board yesterday. I am very excited. technology is not a phase, it's the future. Do I think hardware make a great techer; absolutly not. What I think is that great teachers will take the time to learn and use whats available to them to the maximum levels. They will reflect on what works and what does not. They will see their part in a bad day and look for solutions to issues they have going on.
I love the responses to this question. My thought is that technology supports my instruction. How I incorporate the SMART Board into my lessons helps my students to be more successful. Without it, I would use other techniques. (Our school is getting a second board for our other computer lab, and I am fortunate enough to have an airliner in my room.) SMART Boards aren't going to make students more successful or smarter, but the level of engagement I witness even from my most active students is undeniable. When I taught K-2 singing, dancing, pantomiming, etc... was acceptable. My fifth grade students however, are concerned about being cool. The SMART Board assists me by keeping a level of activity and engagement during whole class lessons that would otherwise be difficult to pull off.
Cathleen, you are batting 1,000 today. Your statement, "The SMART Board assists me by keeping a level of activity and engagement during whole class lessons that would otherwise be difficult to pull off," is a prime example of what students bring to the classroom now. They bring the "gaming concept!" They LOVE video games and anything animated, so teaching interactives on your "Smart Board" is a perfect fit for your students!
Just saying that Smart Boards make kids smarter is a stretch. I think it would be more wise to say that in the right classroom SmartBoards can improve student learning. So in a sense, it would make them smarter. It is up to the teacher in that classroom to properly use that technology though. I've seen classrooms in my building where they are used as over glorified projection screens and that is it.
When you can get students coming up to the board, responding to question, drawing, navigating, and contributing to the overall lesson; are you going to have smarter kids? Probably, but more likely you are going to get them there more so because they are involved and interested in what you're teaching.
I don't beleive that smartboards actually make students smarter, but they are a tool that when used correctly can make learning more fun. Smartboards allow students to have more hands-on opportunities in the classroom. It allows students to be more actively engaged in the lesson, which I beleive will help them retain the information and help them succeed in the long run. They are a GREAT tool when used correctly.
Technology is good depending on how it's used.
I agree. The smartboard is only as good as the people who present material on it. We have just switched from Activboards to Smartboards and I have found that many people used their activboards as a big screen. I certainly hope we use our smartboards better.
I do not think any technology is going to automatically create smarter students. It can catch their attention, spark their interest and pique their curiosity, but without facilitation, instruction and guidance, it will not enable very many to expand their knowledge or help them to succeed.
Thanks for your comment, and you make an excellent point, "without facilitation, instruction and guidance, it will not enable very many to expand their knowledge or help them to succeed," hopefully technology driven teachers will engage our students and excite them to learn a different way..........their way......the digital immigrant way.........and the plus side is that teachers will still keep their jobs!
William is echoing the words of John Dewey in his 1913 book Interest and Effort in Education. Dewey said, even then, that if we bring "exciting" things into the classroom, it does pique their interest, but can create a "Christmas Eve" effect - where the excitement level is high, but behavior and depth of learning are not at their optimal levels. Most classrooms in my district have Promethean boards. We love them, but we also realize that they aren't the silver bullet of teaching that many people promote them to be. Games and interactivity are wonderful at times, but we do have to balance that with our own understanding of good teaching techniques and individualized instruction. As one of my collegues recently commented, "With state testing and all these other accountability measures in place, there comes a time when all the games and smartboards in the world don't help anymore. We do everything but stand on our heads to get their attention, but when the time comes for the test - there is no sound, no color, and no moving around the room. At some point we have to teach them to focus on a peice of paper."
In some ways smart technology does help students learn in a way that is relevant to the "outside" world. But we must remember that some things never change - it is the transition from having an "exciting" tool that students are interested in, to true ability to use the technology for deep understanding that must happen if there are to be any long term benefits.
I agree. Its like the idea of groups moving from one station to another in the lower elementary grades and then when they get to middle school, they can't sit still for over 20 minutes. They must learn everything in the world is not a game that must interest them.
I believe the Smart Board is a tool for me to use. A student's success depends on whether or not they are interested in and actively engaged in learning. Smart Boards can be used in a classroom for students who have a variety of learning styles.
Personally, I teach kindergarten and last year used my board everyday and sometimes several times each day. I did this to reinforce learning and to mix things up to make it more fun and engaging. They had so much fun and stayed engaged for longer periods of time when we used ours.
Since last year was my first year using one, I had a difficult time finding quality and engaging lessons. I have spent my summer looking for new ideas and resources to continue to help my students be successful.
The bottom line is that a student's success depends on how engaged they are in the lessons, the teacher's delivery, and how much support the student has from their family and extended family. All this ultimately shapes the students attitude and interest in school. I believe having the technology available is tremendously helpful; a professional educator would deliver an excellent and engaging lesson regardless of interactive board availability.
Smartboards, clickers, etc. are tools that enhance teaching and learning. They can support students as they learn and make learning more meaningful if used wisely! It is up to the teacher to use these tools in mearningful, wise ways.
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Hey the new iPad apps look really awesome. Unfortunately, as a graphic designer, I decided to get a computer with a built in Wacom digitizer instead of a giant iPod. It seems unfair TM2 owners would not get this functionality, as realistically, the TM2 is the ONLY laptop, desktop, macos or iOS product with a built in Wacom digitizer. It is the only AIO product that has out of the box pressure sensitivity that works with photoshop. If Adobe made hardware like Apple, this would have been their signature photoshop device, or as close to it as could realistically be expected. It's unfair that others and i are going to lose out on these professional and awesome tools just because i'm too serious to buy a toy for my work. It's unrealistic to expect people to drop 700 bucks on smearing paint with their fingers when we already have that functionality.
You should not be driving iPad sales with these apps. You should inticing people instead to buy the slate they're going to have the best Photoshop experience on, thus creating an environment that literally facilitates the cultivation of pleased consumers. If I can do more with Photoshop on this machine than any other, then certainly my Photoshop experience is going to be more positive. Creating apps for the TM2 will make the people interested in these types of apps more likely to buy the device that will give them the best Product Satisfaction,
I'd like to see it implemented so that I can dual- or triple-display using extended desktop, having the apps run in full screen on the tm2 and using the other displays for my workspace.
Any effort made would certainly be appreciated (understatement) by myself and many, many others.
Apple has enough wind in it's sails at any rate.
Guess you didn't buy a ThinkPad W701ds laptop with dual screen built in color calabrator and Wacom tablet. Photoshop is not going to preform well on a $800 tablet....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-W701-DS-17WUXGA-10-6WXGA-i7-SSD-HD -16GB-/330542365162?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item4cf5dc39ea#ht_3297wt_128 2
Oh no buddy, you're just a bad guesser. I certainly bought that "lattop" I bought four of those "lattops" but for some reason, Color Lava, Nav, and Eazel will still only work with iPads. How many more of these machines do you think I should buy in order to begin development for Adobe Tablet apps on other platforms?
my $800 dollar tablet, which costs $1,200 to this day, isn't going to "preform well[sic]" is it? If you think you need a core i7 EE to run photoshop you're retarded. Photoshop is hardly the most system intensive thing I do, and I can assure you that my TM2, which is spec'd at something like 6 times the system requirements for Photoshop CS5, handles games like dead space 2 on high settings flawlessly, and has taken everything I've thrown at it in Photoshop.
I think that if I don't want to spend money on an iPad, then it seems asinine to recommend that I should/should have bought a $2200 dollar computer and a cintiq series wacom display, quadrupling both my carry weight and my price tag, while at the same time not bringing me a step closer to using Nav, Color Lava, or Eazel.
How many more of these machines do you think I should buy in order to begin development for Adobe Tablet apps on other platforms?
You only need one to start developing apps. Just download the SDK and develop your idea for a new app.
Chris, Unfortunately, The mentioned Thinkpad doesn't contain a touch screen or digitizer, so there is no SDK to create apps for it. Although there is an SDK for the HP TM2,
I wouldn't have led off with that sarcastic answer if his recommendation to buy that machine was in any way helpful. Buying a machine that has no touch screen or digitizer is not going to get these tablet apps on other platforms, and it's not going to help me use them with that machine, or my TM2.
You work for Adobe right? Just to clarify, because I'm asking for Color Lava, Nav, and Eazel support for the HP TM2, and it seems your recommendation is that commit IP fraud on Adobe code if I hope to attain this? Is that really good advice? It doesn't seem like it.Would you also recommend I keep their names the same after porting it and charge money for them?
Wouldn't it be easier for Adobe to port the application themselves, as they wrote it, and already have an understanding of touch SDK's, and an army of the most talented developers in the industry?
I'm not a programmer. It would probably take me more than a year to even come up with a halfassed version of Color Lava, as i have zero experience in both the Touchsmart SDK and coding Photoshop plug-ins. I would imagine adobe could whip this out in a matter of weeks if it was a priority.
Unfortunately, The mentioned Thinkpad doesn't contain a touch screen or digitizer, so there is no SDK to create apps for i
Yeah, the same SDK you use to write for tablets works just fine for desktop systems. Despite the unfortunate "Touch" name that got tacked on at the last minute -- the SDK is about communicating with Photoshop over networks and not about touch screens or digitizers.
You said you wanted applications written using the new SDK for your system -- and I told you that you can use the SDK to write applications for your system.
I have no idea where you got the rest of that stuff.
We put the SDK out there so that other people can develop for whatever platform they want.
We are not going to be the sole supplier of applications to communicate with Photoshop anymore than we are the sole supplier of plugins.
Yes, i could develop untestable apps on that.
How is this a better idea than developing them on the computer I already own, that actually has a touch screen?
I did not say I wanted "applications" developed. I said I wanted YOUR applications SPECIFICALLY: Color Lava, Nav, and Eazel, to work with my machine.
Although I do have every right to develop my own apps, I didn't come here for permission to do that. From my original post to the one you most recently replied to I have maintained a simple request for future support.
Although I CAN develop my own applications, I want yours. I could develop my own Photoshop competitor too, but that's ridiculous.
It would be illegal for me to port Adobe IP's to systems that they weren't intended to. And I would do a bad job at it, which gives Adobe every right to enforce their claim to these apps.
The rest of that stuff about "keeping their names the same and charging for them" was just meant to show that "If you want a copy of Color Lava, Nav or Eazel for your system, simply make them yourself." would be illegal, because I had the feeling you were not getting the point.
I'm not asking for "more" apps. I understand you won't be the sole provider of apps for the iPad or any other system that can interface via touch with photoshop.
But you are the sole provider of the apps color lava, nav, and eazel you own them. No one else can copy them and port them to other systems. No one else can make an app that is exactly the same.
When people wanted a windows version of photoshop, you guys didn't recommend using an sdk to copy adobe code.
There's a difference between asking you to support more than one OS, and expecting you to make more apps that I obviously can't use anyways if you've managed to read any of this, as I do not have OR WANT an iPad.
I'd also like to take this oppotunity to take the time to point out that your press release says the SDK is only for mobile OS's. Android, iOS, Blackberry.
Even your advice is not going to get these apps, apps like these apps, or any app using this SDK ever to work on Windows.
So perhaps my question needs to be rephrased. "Future Support for Windows in the Adobe touch SDK?" "Future versions of Eazel, Nav, and Color Lava for Windows?" Or maybe best: "Future suppot for Color Lava, Eazel and Nav for WACOM products?
Whether it be my TM2's screen or any Wacom Cintiq model, (the digitizers can't be that different) creating apps that could be used with tablets on windows would instantly appeal to the already large Wacom/Photoshop userbase.
But if I'm wrong, and there is some way I can use 100% Adobe's code of these apps legally and somehow port them on to Windows/Wacom hardware, I'm all ears. Maybe you could release the source code? :-D
But that's not gonna happen. So it's up to you guys. Which is why I asked to begin with.
point out that your press release says the SDK is only for mobile OS's. Android, iOS, Blackberry.
Where did you find a press release with that statement?
All the ones I've read say it also supports MacOS (we didn't get a native Windows sample app written in time, though).
Again, the SDK is about network communication - the type of device does not matter.
http://blogs.adobe.com/photoshopdotcom/2011/04/when-vision-turns-into- reality-%E2%80%93-photoshop-cs5-interaction-with-tablet-devices%E2%80% A6.html
Guess it's not a press release, i was just expecting to find one when i started the sentence before I searched, ended up going to the first result and not correcting myself
It just says "mobile and tablet devices" (of which 0 run on Mac OS, to my knowledge.)
at another point it says "If any device with a wifi connection – iOS, Android or Blackberry PlayBook – could interact with Photoshop"
could. I guess it's not very specific.
So if I understand what you're saying about the SDK is simply a means of communication, but is it NOT a means of communication between devices that are touch enabled and photoshop?
What other possible use could this have if the machine NOT running photoshop doesn't have a form of input unavailable to the host machine? which is pretty much limited to either pen, touch or both at this point. (Although, now that the Kinect SDK is being released for Windows, that could be pretty interesting.)
Would it be safe to say that as you intended native Windows support it will come someday, and/or it's likely Adobe will port Color Lava, Nav and Eazel to Android and Windows tablets at some point?
She said mobile and tablet devices... because that was the topic of that particular blog post.
Nothing there says that the SDK is limited to just those devices.
You simply read too much into that one blog post.
Again, any device that can connect over TCP/IP and support some basic encryption can communicate with Photoshop using the SDK.
That could be MacOS, Windows, tablets, phones, my TiVO, an internet enabled TV, etc.
What possible use could it have? An offscreen tutorial system, collecting student work in a classroom, render farm control, a print kiosk, slideshows on your TV, setting colors from a remote measurement system, or anything else that could be automated through javascript and connecting to Photoshop over the network.
Lava, Nav and Eazel are tablet examples. They make sense on tablet like devices, and may get ported to other tablet like devices (some just take more time because their toolchain is not as well polished at this time).
Other examples will be coming, and third party applications are already being announced.
Thank you for your insight and patience. Maybe is better than no.
My biggest gripe with Adobe is their fanboy attitude with Apple. As an electronic engineer I started working in what was to be called Silicon Valley in 1961. I followed Woz and Jobs as they created Apple and purchased their first offerings. After many years in the valley following many new startups, including one I also helped create, I have become disenchanted with apple guidance and marketing. I will never buy another Apple product no matter how good it's engineering as long as Jobs runs the company.
Therefore, I purchased a Motorola/Google XOOM and am greatly pleased with its performance even at this early stage of Honeycomb development. I would also like to voice my opinion that Adobe also provide software for the many Android devices that are available and multiplying.
Added: I do have the crippled Photoshop app on my XOOM.


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This condition can happen even if the birth is natural, but it is made worse by c-sections because the abdominal muscles are weaker due to the surgical injury.
Diastasis recti is usually pain-free, but it does have one frustrating symptom: It causes belly pooch. The complicating factor here is that typically one would do sit-ups or crunches to help flatten the tummy, but when the connective tissue is stretched, the abdominal muscles will buff up … and out.
There is one easy way to tell if you have this condition. Lie on your back, lift up your head and look at your belly. If you can gently sink a finger or two between your abdominal muscles above your belly button, then the connective tissue is stretched and your abs have moved apart.
Exercise is still the key to fixing this problem, but you will need to modify your routine. One thing you can do is head lifts (instead of full crunches or sit ups) while pulling your belly in toward your spine. Also, walking or jogging can help tighten up the core. Pilates is a great toning exercise that helps tighten the core without bulking the belly up or out. Yoga is great for this, too.
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Oh, and chiropractic adjustments do help with this condition.
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Here are a few studies of different skull types. I found this to be an excellent exercise to help understand the structure and the big shapes that contribute to likeness. I hope to do more soon.
Here's a few more life drawings. Critiques are very welcome.
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top row -30 secs poses; bottom - 10 min. part studies:
10 min. poses/part studies:
Hey Brenno I really like the head studies. Not intentional, I'm sure, but strange how zombie like they are without eyes and lips. I'm really impressed with the 30 sec poses you did. I think you capture the gesture well with these and I can see in the longer poses your use of the core shadow to help define the different planes. They all look to have good weight, form and movement to me and you seem to be progressing well. Which is good for me as I like to study your studies .
Hi Marian! Yes, the eyeless faces do sometimes look like zombies! I suppose my teacher actually meant to say the same, without however using the word, when he said that he liked the drawings, but told me to "definitely drop the eye sockets in shadow!" I guess I was too worried about modeling the form to then lose it all under a flat, dark tone...
Here are a few more studies of skull types. This time I am working with four values, and a stronger, and often more dramatic, directional lighting. The only exceptions are the Cornwell studies on the last page, which I decided to do after his manner, sculpting the form with a softer light.
Quick update:
A few studies after Pontormo as a warm-up just before life drawing session,
and a page from that session. 10-15 minutes studies of parts.
Whoaa nice studiew man. From where do you study the bodies? Nice lines really nad poses. Keep it up!
Oh, why not mouths?
My Sketchbook ---> http://conceptart.org/forums/showthr...42#post3225942
Knut-: The figure studies are done either from life (in classes or uninstructed workshops) or after master drawings/paintings/sculptures. I always try to note which is the case in my posts.
In these exercises we're supposed to focus on the larger structure (basically the skull and its major planes, plus the nose), with the underlying assumption that this should be enough to get a strong likeness before adding the features or minor details. That's why the mouth is not there: the idea is that more important than the mouth/lips for this sort of structural likeness is the larger shape of the tooth cylinder, the muzzle. Of course, that is not to say that features are not important in achieving a likeness. They play a very important role, especially in adding character, and personality, to the larger structural likeness. But, according to this reasoning, the features should be built upon a solid foundation. Hopefully this clarifies the thought process a bit. Thanks for visiting!
And here are two heads from life, this time with features. 10 mins. pose, each. I wish I'd had more time.
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DAMN your figures have improved IMMENSELY. Seriously amazing progress. Your gesture and short poses (I'm guessing 1 and 5 minutes) are very good and you're grasping a lot quickly. Your longer poses are also very good. The only critique I would give you as of right now (and it's not a huge thing) is to remember what are informing your contours - form. It looks like you have a good grasping of what's going on structurally, but just as a fore warning, don't get caught up on the boundaries. Seriously amazing work and progress.
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Hey Brenno your Pontormo warm ups look very nice and obviously proved to be a good warm up as the studies of parts are also very good. All the proportions looks very accurate and your lines and tones seem to express the form and they read really well. I also like what you achieved in the last head studies. I can see through the drawings that you understand the forms of what your drawing. I like the tones you've used to capture the hair on the right one and the face on the left is also very good especially as it was done in 10mins. You really are doing well and setting a great example for me to follow. Have you been doing any painting of late?
Immense improvement. Those head studies are done from imagination? You did really well in that 10 mins head drawing. 10 mins isnt very long and I think u did a really good job capturing the essence. I dont have to say how good your figure drawing has become. Keep it rocking !
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Excellent life drawings, I definitely see Vilppu's influence in your work. I noticed in the beginning of the thread that you mentioned that you're self taught through books, so am I (though I also watch instructional videos). I feel like I've learned something by looking at your drawings. I know you want critiques but I'm not sure I could tell you anything you weren't already aware of, your work is very good. If I were to be excessively nit-picky just for the sake of criticism, I think you may be hanging on to the outline just a tad too much. Maybe indicate how the forms fit together with a little more clarity. However, as you mentioned in my sketchbook, perhaps you just place more emphasis on other things which is okay because it is clear to me that you know what you're doing.
Very nice drawings sir.
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Oruhito: Thanks! It means a lot coming from you. I think you're right regarding my overemphasis on the outline at moments. I will keep an eye on that.
Marian: Thanks again for the encouragement! I haven't painted much lately... I've decided to focus on drawing for the moment, since I believe it is the basis for any solid painting. Thanks for visiting!
JS Neo: The head studies were done from reference, but -- as I think is obvious -- I wasn't trying to copy the reference. Rather, the idea was to understand the underlying structure, and, in some cases (when the lighting on the reference was poor, for example), to push the drawing's strcutural solidity even beyond the reference. Thanks for dropping by!
Krel: Thanks!
Sir Cam: I agree completely with what you said. I've been trying to push clarity in my latest drawing (below). Still need to work more on that, though. Thanks for visiting and keep up the good work!
Here are a few drawings from life. As mentioned above, my main goal in most of them was to push clarity so as to make sure I understand what's going on with the form.
some 10 minutes drawings from life and a few ballpoint studies.
Hey Brenno great drawings as always. I really like the top drawing with the legs coming right out of the page. Very dramatic and it feels very solid. The ballpoint pens are a different approach for you and look interesting. I always enjoy seeing what you've been doing. You make me want to achieve better drawings
the last timed studies are excellent and very lovely lines shows your hard work is paying off, have you tried doing spherical forms, like vilppu teaches?
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Marian and Tom, thank you for the words and for the visit!
I've been trying to experiment with different media. Here are a few recent studies. First page after Carmean, last after Hele.
I know they are studies but i really like the overall page with the frames and black shadows on the last update. Keep up.
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Knut-: Thanks! Everything here is studies... I am glad you like those
Large upload. Some better, some worse... Slowly and shyly feeling more comfortable to experiment a little bit. Trying to be more careful with my line quality: variety is the word. Poses range from 5's to 25's, all from life.
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Experimenting with a different technique... Red, black, and white pencils on toned paper.
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Your works are beautiful man. There's been so much improvement since your first posts, especially in depth and structure. Keep posting!
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Hey Brenno really enjoying looking at your last posts. Your shading just keeps getting better and better. It must feel great to have reached this stage where you can now experiment more. Well done you for working so hard.
Coen: Thanks!
Marian: Yes, it feels rewarding and, in a sense, liberating, when you start to see that things begin to make sense. You look at drawings you had looked at many times before, and you realize that there are so many things there, in that very same drawing, that you had not even begun to notice just a moment ago. I think good drawings, like good poems, offer themselves to us in layers. We see in them what we put into them; they answer only the questions we are able to formulate. At the same time, when we come to realize this, we also realize -- now that we know a little more -- that we actually know so much less than we thought we did before; that the distance between where we are right now and our goals, even though it is a tad bit shorter than it was a moment ago, is in fact much, much larger than we imagined it to be when we first started. Learning is a very humbling experience.
Here is another exploration of the trois crayons technique. After Rubens.
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A few more studies from life, all ranging from five to fifteen minutes, and a quick (20-25') study after Ivor Hele.
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Really wonderful work in here!! I'm excited for you! Keep up the great work. Your progress on this thread is quite amazing. Congratulations!
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Hey Brenno your drawings are looking lovely. Good natural flow and weight to them. Thanks also for introducing me to Ivor Hele I really like your study. Is it intentional that the white highlights stand out so much? I tried to find the drawing you were studying from but with no success. As always you really inspire me to go grab a pencil.
the 1 min and 10 min poses in post # 92 are just excellent - the rhythms, soft touch and sure-footed (ness) that comes across in them is great. Not that anyone asks much for opinions around here but if I were voting, I'd vote for doing more of what you were doing when those happened - good stuff all around but those are very nice. Remind me of Charles Hu's work. - kevin
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Love all these life studies your posting, inspiration to me to get off my butt and do some life drawing!
i dont think there is any critic for you.
its looks good to my eyes.
if someone follows u then i may critic him.
i like streatched strokes...for examples any depth u just filled it up with pencialthink stokes with out much emphasizing on extra depth and detailing.
its tells my mind that there is already an depth and detailling over there.
been following your thread:im on the same path
hmm things to get you to improve...
go back to your geometric shapes, sphere,cone,cube and cilinder ,learn to shade those by heart that will help you on the figure
study anatomy,start with the bones,then origin and insertion points
drop the charcoal,and draw with pen to help more with line,and learning to hatch over the form ,Goltzius is great for that
work more on toned paper,to separate not only the shadow side,which i see you do well,but the light and midtone as well
pic a few master artists,and learn from them,the figure (michelangelo wins an expert on it)
i would like to see more perspective studies, also learn how to do ornament (that requires knowledge of constructive geometry and will help you on drawing and painting,step by step thinking, geometrical,something the old painter knew how to do well)
go to the museum and do long drawings of sculpture,your figures are great but lack the weight and sensitive to tone,when you master the sculpture it becomes easier to see tones on flesh.
do more details studies of the ABC on drawing, hands,feet,noses,ears,eyes,mouth,torso,and all the parts of the body
dont neglect your imaginative drawing...think about doing an ecorche,something i ought to do,practice doing grisailles with oil,black and white only...
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I have recently been pondering on a question that occurred to me the other day when I was in hospital. Are atheist more or less likely to participate in reckless behavior.
The reason I ask is because I know I've participated in a lot more 'risky' behavior than some of my religious friends. And I mean every type of recklessness, from 'Jackass' like stunt activities, sexual behavior, drug experimentation, etc. (To clarify I don't mean these apply to myself). And also just being more willing to participate in certain activities, like going out instead of staying in and watching a film, the simple things!
Personally, I know I have been a lot more willing to participate in 'risky' behavior since I know I am only here once, and I'm damn sure when I'm lying on my death bed, I won't be wishing I had done this or that, even if sometimes it's to my own demise (I'm currently typing with one hand as I broke my hand last week and have fractured/broken 15 bones in total).
Along with your opinions, I'd love to hear some of the 'crazier' stories you've got!
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I wanted to cry just by seeing a picture of this. OMFSM seriously though I can't look at it directly.
If there is one thing i've learned about 'what Atheists do? It's a huuuuuge assumption on the part of the accuser Atheists have only 1 thing in common NO 2 Atheists are in any other way alike so I think it's an unanswerable question , I'll leave those questions to the god botherer following sheeples seems more their forte to group themselves into what they do and don't do, should and shouldn't do, ought ought ....pfffttt....
I'm damn sure when I'm lying on my death bed, I won't be wishing I had done this or that
Or two months from now you may be lying on your death bed wishing you hadn't done this or that. It's incomprehensible to you because you are young. I ignored a weather report and ventured out into the ocean in a skiff. When the outboard motor went underwater I was imagining the newspaper article about my death.
I'm not that young and trust me it's far from incomprehensible. And I don't mean 100% reckless behavior that puts your life in danger. I mean trying new things in general, be it food or an activity, etc. Also glad you survived!
Nah it all depends on the individuals themselves
My religious nutjob cousins should all be dead 3 times over from the crazy stuff they did. My closes friends are atheists and are not even remotely adventurous. Maybe it comes down to stupid/smart.
I think you are right. It is not a matter of theist/atheist. It is about being dumb/smart
My mother thinks I'm a risk taker, just because I went to India this past summer. You know, the men there are dogs, and everyone tries to con you there. I have tried a drug. I've also dated a crazy woman. That's about as risky as I get.
life long atheist here, and no I do not think it makes you a risk taker. I wonder if you are more of an endorphin or adrenalin addict than a risk taker from your description. I do not engage in risky sports or activities as i have four children who need to know I am coming home to look after them.
I personally think that as we get older its our bodies that tend to make us more conservative about risk taking. When we are young and spry we tend to take on more risks, since we feel more immune to the aches and pains of failures. As a true Dutchman I do ride my bike (motorized or not) and in Canada that is taking a risk! LOL!
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Man these weeks are flying by! Wednesdsay already. AJ I eat pretty much the same things. Chobani greek yogurt often for snacks, EAS 15 protein mix and v8 energy drink after weights, occasionally a zone bar, and for meals, oatmeal and egg whites, rice veggies and some kind of meat and evenings are often a salad with homemade vinnaigrette and fish or chicken. Sounds boring when I type that out. I probably need to try new meals too. I am really seeing some muscle pop lately but feel like I am still covered in a layer of fat! I am definately staying here past 12 weeks. I want to be one of those gals that can post a successful after photo!!!
Going to go kill my legs with a LBWO. I already feel somewhat sore from my run yesterday. For some reason I felt really heavy and clunky running yesterday. I don't know if it was that it was cold out or what but didn't feel graceful.
Claire, Come back............. We miss you:))))
I should say the V8 is a light energy drink, only 50 calories and 13 carbs.
Hi Val and Claire,
I've been eating pretty much the same stuff too. Lots of egg whites and oats. Protein shakes. Chicken. Lots of chicken. Probably need to eat more veggies. Have some premade frozen meals I've made and know the calorie/carb/protein/fat counts on and sometimes throw those in the lunchbag when I don't have anything prepared. Maybe that can be our next goal, to change it up on the food front.
Val, you say you are feeling muscles pop lately but still feel like you are covered in a layer of fat. You might be suprised. Have you taken any more photos? I was encouraged by the photos I was of myself recently. Still not exactly where I would like to be, but seeing a lot of improvement in the photos that I don't see in the mirror. Maybe it is the same with you. We girls are so hard on that girl in the mirror. Compare with your starting photos. And YES, you will have that successful after photo! You have got the drive girl! And the clunky running - every day of training won't feel smooth. I think we need those "clunky" days so we can also get the great feeling from those easy peasy days and say to ourselves that it wasn't that hard. It actually was easy and felt gooooood. :0)
Well girls, only three weeks left. I cannot believe we are doing this, it's is SO GREAT! Wow, it really does change your life. Keep up the great work!
Claire - How are you? We miss you!
Hello my sweet BFL friends,
Sorry I have not been posting. My Monday deadline ran into a Wednesday deadline--3 more 12 hour days! Now the project is in the reviewer's hands. Just hope they like it! I am blown away impressed with both of you girls. Way to go! Just been reading all of your posts. You girls really rock. Val, 2 miles of running is so awesome! and AJ--so cool that you're seeing such real changes! I'm afraid I have been off the wagon in the exercise department. I plan to be back on track tomorrow. I do miss it. I am realizing that I have a really difficult time keeping my life in balance. It is partly me and partly my work/lifestyle. There is little structure to my days. I need to work on a plan for building some in. I have not been eating badly, but I cannot lose weight without exercising. I really wish I hadnt gotten so off track with my workouts. Thanks for being here for me.
Claire I am so happy to hear from you. Just keep coming back and trying, its what I do. I figure eventually it will become a habit! I have just the opposite problem I love to exercise and do it without a problem but eating? Blah, I am often so bad at it. But I keep trying. I think if I didn't try I would be severely overweight instead of somewhat:)) So happy for you that your project is done. It sounds so fun to work for yourself! Lucky you. My husband is self employed and says he could never go back to clocking in for someone else.
AJ that is so true! Some days I feel like I could run forever and others I think what?? I am so out of shape. I wonder how that can be although I have noticed when I am eating well it makes a difference. It makes my workouts easier. That alone should keep me on track. I put on a pair of jeans on Monday that were too tight at the start of the program and they fit! They were not loose as I prefer to wear my jeans but I am getting there!
Hey, do you girls travel to island destinations in the winter? We are trying to find an all inclusive to go to but it is so overwhelming the choices out there. We have been to Cozumel with a cruise ship and would rather not return to Mexico so been trying to look elsewhere. The beaches there were not that nice!
Well I am heading to the gym to run on the treadmill. 16 degrees out and the coldest I've run in is 24. Sounds too cold for me!
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Good to hear from you Claire. Take some time for you and be good to yourself by feeding yourself good healthy food and moving your body. You deserve it! You are a hard worker! Keep at it, it does work. I have started BFL soooo many times I can't count. Then I would get down on myself for not doing part of it just right and slack, then feel guilty for slacking and get down on myself for not trying, yada yada yada. Basically talking mean to myself. It's self destructive talk. I doesn't do any good. I don't know why, but this time is different. Now I consider all of those prior attempts as learning experiences. I learned something from every one of those attempts. Take note of those little changes in your mind and body, they can motivate you to keep going. See one small change, and then try for another one. Keep going, keep going! I believe in you!
Val - You are doing such a great job running. I am jealous. Awesome on the smaller jeans, wow! It's exciting, isn't it? Sorry, I can't give any travel advice, I'm a terrible homebody. And work too much. My travel consists of traveling across two states to see the boyfriend LOL. A warm beach sounds great though. And a great goal too fit into a swimsuit.
Well, I am feeling more comfortable in my body. I've missed a few workouts on this program, being sick and all, but for the main part have done pretty good at keeping up. I've not eaten totally clean, but am doing better and better as it goes along. Even though I have not been perfect I am seeing good results. You guys are great help! It's nice to know we are all struggling with ourselves and striving to be better every day. WE CAN DO THIS!!! The days are ticking down. I can't believe it, it seems to be going by very quickly. It's becoming more of a habit. I am so glad that this year at New Years I won't be making a resolution to lose weight, or at least not as much weight LOL.
Keep it up Girls!
Friday? How did that sneak up on me? I want the time to slow down now that we are at the end of our challange! AJ I love hearing from you daily:)) You have wonderful positive things to say that always make me more determined to do better. So thanks for that!! Would give you a hug if I could. I think I have missed a couple workouts too, but figure thats life and did not let it worry me at all. I wish I would have measured now. I have noticed some change in how things fit in my arms and shoulder, chest area. Still got that little belly pooch though. Hussman says those trouble areas are the last to go. I can't wait to be able to report that my butt and belly are smaller:) As soon as we make our reservations for travel this winter I will be totally motivated by that swimsuit fitting! Its an excellent motivator. That boyfriend has to be a great motivator too, AJ. I remember dating (22 years ago!!) was excellent for keeping me preoccupied with something else besides eating.
Claire, just letting you know I got you in my thoughts and wishing all the best for you there in VT! Check in and let us know how it is going.
Wow is right. I can't believe it's Friday already. TGIF though, I really need a Friday. No kids or boyfriend tonight so I'm gonna try to squeeze in a little "me time". Val, I LOVE the Hussman web site. Thanks for telling us about it. I've printed off most of the pages and most nights I fall asleep reading one. (Not that it's boring, it's not, I just can't stay awake very long once I finally make it to bed at night.)
Ah the belly pooch. I have one of those too. However, it is getting smaller. Yay! Persistence will take care of that ole thing! LOL.
Yes the boyfriend is a motivator, however, he's not the reason I'm doing this. Funny, usually being in a fairly new relationship would help curb the appetite, etc. We've been dating a little over a year and actually my weight was starting to creep up. Yikes. I'd been lifting weights about three times a week and I'm very active (when not chained to a desk for 8 hours), so my weight stayed in what I thought was a decent range. So I didn't do anything except try to eat pretty good. Didn't see any reason to make many changes. Thought I looked pretty good. Then in August/September my employer decided to have a boot camp. They were going to take a certain number of people who wanted to do this, all from different divisions, and it would last eight weeks, having two sessions a week. Well, for some reason I really wanted to do this badly. Just for me. To show I could do it. I put in for it, as did many other people. But there was a limit on the number of people they could have in the class, and I didn't make the cut. It really made me upset for a couple of days. My boyfriend told me it didn't matter if I got into boot camp or not, that I already knew what to do, I just had to do it. And he was right. I'd been thinking the same thing and had already dug out my dog eared BFL book. I did know what to do and how to do it. So I started doing it. I got serious about BFL, especially the nutritional aspect. All those times I had started before and not finished were just practice for this time. This time I was going to do it. And I am. It is an absolutely incredible feeling to see the changes in my mind and body. It's strange, I'm not a competitive person, but initially I think I just wanted to have more progress than the boot campers. Then when I started seeing some results I got really excited and just kept it rolling. Now I keep trying to beat my last "best" workout or time on my bike ride. It's a quest to better myself now.
Started writing this Friday, but it's actually Saturday now that I'm actually getting it posted. Skipped workout yesterday to get some stuff done. Doubled up this morning with cardio and UBWO. I'm a little worn out but will try to sleep extra tonight. It's worth being worn out though, the scale dropped two pounds this week. That's incredible for me. Must be that eight week (or 9 or 10 week) miracle kicking in. It's freaking me ouit knowing I've only got a couple more weeks until the challenge is over for me. Funny, before I couldn't even make it two weeks.
Val, I'm totally jealous about your vacation. Ahhhh....the sun, sand and water. :0) Are you taking kids with you or is this a romantic getaway for you and the hubby?
Gotta roll and get some errands done. Have a great weekend Girls! Keep with the program, IT WORKS!
Hey Val, did you ever figure out that fear of success thing?
Good morning, I ache everywhere! I painted our 38x56 shop yesterday. Primed and painted! I did not do cardio yesterday as Michael wanted to start early so I am running this morning. I can't miss a day because on this program I am progressively increasing my distances and don't want to mess it up. Soooo I am going outside in the dark but it is not too bad for temp. Ran the other day at the gym on the treadmill and boy is it so much harder mentally to keep on going compared to being outside. I love the outdoors.
AJ, Nope never did figure it out. I keep going and keep pondering and maybe someday something will click. What a sweet reward for all your persistance the drop in weight. I want that!! Sounds like your boyfriend is wonderfully supportive! It's funny how a person can try and try and then one day it just clicks mentally and then it works. It is all in being mentally ready and committed.
Well going to run!
AJ No kids! It is a much needed breather for us. We go with a group of friends. It is usually a really fun time.
What is this week 11?! Weighed in this morning after a free week and I am up 3 pounds. I am starting with a clean slate this morning and putting that all behind me and just going to forget about it. I am going to start using MyFitnessPal again. That really kept me on the straight and narrow before. Its LBWO this am, 3 more LBWO left in this challange. Wow.
Been planning for Christmas and all I have to say is it includes alot of FOOD. I guess I will take each day as it comes and see how it goes.
Hey Val, hang in there. Sounds like you have been really, really busy. You deserve that trip! (With no kids no less!! LOL) I'm right there with you. Scale was up two pounds today because I went out of town this weekend. Tried to pack a cooler and be good but did eat out a couple of times. That is a real killer for me. Back on track today! Even hit the gym hard for LBWO. Wow, there are only two weeks left, I can't believe it. I almost don't want it to be over............hummmm...... I know I want to keep going, but am afraid I will be too free around Christmas and New Years and backslide. We are just having a small Christmas here and then traveling to see Grandma for New Years. That should help keep the goodies down a little bit. It's so hard to be good when that stuff is just sitting around. Although I do find it easier when I eat every 3 hours, but man if I miss a meal I can binge. We will just have to be STRONG and eat our lean protein.
Good job on the running! I'm so proud of you. (And jealous! Wish I liked to run.) Keep it up!
Thanks AJ. I am always too hard on myself. I need to look at what I am doing and be grateful I can workout and run like I do rather than what I think I should be doing. I believe biking is your passion and isn't it funny that I don't care to ride bike? Been trying to talk my sister into joining us here. She is excellent at BFL. She did a challange a few years back and looked terrific when she finished . I love talking to like minded people and think she would too. I also feel the same way that I am really not ready for this challange to be over. I guess my only concession to the end will be to change up my weights and do something different. I am going to keep going. I HAVE to. I am a happier person when I am doing BFL and everyone, not just me. benefits from that. My husband told my son this weekend that when "Momma is happy everyone is happy." I started to laugh and he looked at me with a serious expression and said that is the truth nothing to laugh about there. I am trying to keep Christmas small as well. I don't bake cause it is just not something I enjoy so we don't ever have goodies laying about. It's all the meals and Christmas parties that start to add up. If we can get through this intact and still here we will have won a major victory. Ok I am trying to convice myself I am not too tired to run. I have to do 2.5 miles this morning and think I will run outside. I am not taking walking breaks anymore! Now each week I build till I reach 3 miles. Soooo I will got do it.
Hey Claire, Missing you and wishing you well.
I just had to add another thing. I was just rereading my post and remembered something that I had to say. I can't tell the number of times that I will be feeling extremely crabby and when I try to pinpoint what set off the bad mood the culprit is that I am feeling fat!!!! And let me tell you everyone feels that crabby mood when they are around me! So BFL is a life saver.
Ouch, my shoulder is sore this morning. It a muscle spasm I think. I have upper body workout this morning. I am going to try work around it. My weight is back down this morning! Feel good about that. Felt hungry during the night though. I am beat, I am going to try nap today.
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Support for Newtown School Shooting Victims Pours In
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NEWTOWN, CT -- In New Hampshire, a student created a makeshift candlelight memorial for the victims.
On Long Island, a neighborhood turned off its holiday lights in the wake of the shooting that killed 26 people, including 20 school kids, at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Friday.
A blogger from Atlanta wrote a riveting Christmas poem, where he asks Santa to "take my presents and change them into hugs. And throw them down their chimneys with all your Christmas love." More than 1,000 Facebook users have shared Brandon Kelley's post.
As Newtown residents take their first, tentative steps toward recovering from a shocking shooting spree that has gripped the nation, an outpouring of support continues to build. Already, more than 1,400 Patch users have posted this four-word comment — "I want to help" — on an article created for people seeking to get auto-notified about ways they can support this devastated community.
And the offers and expressions of support have been impressive.
Virginia's Emily R. Doll wrote a letter to Newtown. In it, she says that while she's never been here, "my heart shattered for you today in a way I can't comprehend."
An American artist from 3,000 miles away in the far reaches of the Pacific Northwest wants to draw a keepsake portrait for every victim's family.
And then there is Alysa White of Illinois, who created the Facebook group "Teddys for Newtown," which already has nearly 1,000 likes.
The 20-year old's simple, but loving, goal: Collect teddy bears for each of the children who attend Sandy Hook Elementary School.
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Darlene M Smith December 16, 2012 at 03:41 PM
we are going to light 26 candles and have a local singer sing Silent Night after our Holiday Show We Care Dance Party for Sandy Victims in Wantagh Tuesday night ! I feel we have to do something too!
nina December 16, 2012 at 06:57 PM
No I will not pray !!! Neither should u !! We should go out and protest against the who makes guns avalible to crazy people !!!! Praying docent bring back this angels and what do for a families have to burry their children before Chrismas !!!! :(((( if I pray , I pray that that crazy evil that did it is burning in enternal hell !!!! If u guys care for the safety of your children , u should go out there an protest against guns !! It takes on mom at a time !!!!!!
Jayvionna Jalloh December 17, 2012 at 02:57 AM
Pray for all the kids and others that died hope the best for the parents
Ralph A. December 17, 2012 at 12:10 PM
We have relatives who live close to Newtown, CT. So you can imagine how they're feeling. It's a peaceful quiet areas. Yesterday by phone, my cousin asked "What went wrong? You don't have major crimes here. This just doesn't happen here", She lives about 30 minutes away. So here, we turned off our Christmas Lights over the weekend and put out the American Flag to honor them. We lit candles in church yesterday - one for each victim..
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Latest exoplanet discovery is a virtual CLONE of Earth
Astroboffins poring through data from NASA's Kepler telescope have spotted what they think might be the most Earth-like planet yet discovered. The object has a radius 1.5 times that of Earth, which lumps it into the class of extrasolar planets known as "super Earths." That's not so unusual, in and of itself; scientists estimate …
so when is the elysium leaving for tanis, and where do i sign up? :)
well the first thing is to point a radio telescope at it, surely?
depending on the distance it might fall within astroarcheology (which radioastronomy is a subset of)
(listening to stuff that happened "distance" years ago)
we don't have the tech to listen/communicate instantly yet (it will be probably something based on quantum entanglement)
...upon how far away it is. If it's say 1,000 light years away, then all we would hear is any radio noise emitted from where it was 1,000 years ago. We would only see its star as it was - and where it was - 1,000 years ago.
We would have to study it for some time and - if possible, calculate where it is now and point a radio telescope all along the track from its observed position (where it was 1,000 years ago) to where it is calculated to be and hope that in the intervening time any inhabitants had developed the technology to send radio signals in a recognisable way, and they would still be 1,000 years advanced from when they transmitted. Any reply would give an effective response time of 2,000 years between transmit & receive response assuming we pointed our response in the right direction.
Of course, if it's a near neighbour, say 20 - 30 light years away, then the signal/response time might be only 40 - 60 years...
Re: Depends...
You do know that radio wave propagate at the speed of light don't you??? Da
So light and radio will be 1000 years old when it get here. the true present position id immaterial
Re: Depends...
No it isn't immaterial:- If there were any intelligible signals received from a star system, our reply would need to be aimed at where that system would be at the time our reply reached it.
Re: Depends...
No point sending signals.
If there was anyone over there who could understand, they'd be much older species than us and would already know we exist.
I for one welcoe our space dolphin overlords!
And I remind them that as a marketing professional with opposable thumbs, I am ideally placed to feed them fish in return for a little tail-walking.
I'm still hopeful about the sexually curious amazon overlords too!
Re: I for one welcoe our space dolphin overlords!
Marketeers have opposable thumbs?
Slightly frustrating article.
So, we know the orbital radius of the planet, how long its year it, how big it is, the type of star and what we've decided to call the planet...
but for the life of me, I can't see anywhere where it says which bleedin' star it's orbiting!
Do you think there's something they're not tell us? Where's the tin-foil hat icon when you need it!
Re: Slightly frustrating article.
Would it help if I said it's extremely remote, and no human being will ever, ever see it?
Re: Slightly frustrating article.
I hope you're wrong, and it's merely "no currently-living human being".
Even then, if we pick up intelligible radio transmissions from Them it would have a pretty big impact on our culture anyway, regardless of what They actually said.
(Probably the alien equivalent of Radio 1)
Re: Slightly frustrating article.
It is irritating that it doesn't mention which star it orbits; however, as Kepler points at the same bit of the sky all the time, it must be located in a 115 square-degree region around where Cygnus, Lyra and Draco meet. So at least you can step outside with the Mk1 eyeball and look in the right place!
Beer icon because with this weather, there's no point in getting a 'scope out - might as well stay in the pub...
I'm overweight as it is.
What would the gravitation be like on a rocky planet with a radius 1.5 times Earth's?
Re: I'm overweight as it is.
Depends how dense it is I guess.
Universal suburban neighborhood watch
I am rather concerned that such proximity will have a negative affect on the current market value of our home planet. Given the vastness of space this potentially makes us semi-detatched, or, at the very least, end of terrace. We should be very careful during the initial phase of contact with anybody who is in at the time and see just how many shiny new space stations they have parked in orbit first. Perhaps if we asked to borrow some sugar it would help to encourage harmonious neighborly relations. Close the curtains now!
Re: Universal suburban neighborhood watch
Odd- that's just what they said...
My pink half of the worm hole
Jolly good, I'm glad to hear it. Obviously it is a true clone of earth. On the plus side, I am looking forward to potentially more exotic jams and cakes at the annual Universal Neighborhood Watch jamboree - there's only so much that can be done with quince and greengage you know. But, hang on a minute, as it's an annual jamboree, is it still our annual, or theirs, or somewhere in the middle ? Would this mean we get more than one jamboree a year ? I'll email the vicar and see if there's a conflict with the steam rally. TTFN.
One of Slartibartfast's perchance?
...and will the fjords have crinkley edges?
How far?
So people (including me) keep asking how far this star is. Here's what I've found so far:
According to the NASA database at http://exoplanetarchive.ipac.caltech.edu/cgi-bin/ExoTables/nph-exotbls?dataset=cumulative - rowID 1509, this star is at ra 293.260925 dec 44.868889
I found this using Stellarium (a lovely little tool for the amateur, though I had to download the smaller magnitude maps to find it) at RA 19h 33m 2.62s / Dec 44 52m 7.8s but unfortunately it doesn't seem to have a name or a distance. Magnitude matches at 13.8 though, so I think it's the right one
I leave this information here for anyone with more time to dig than me.
Re: How far?
The apparent Magnitude and the spectral type are enough to make a guess at the distance. This blighter is a really long way away, somewhere over 2000 light years according to the back of this here envelope.
Re: How far?
Time was I could have made that calculation without an envelope, but no more, alas.
Science aside, there's also something strangely satisfying about seeing it on the sky, even if it's a virtual sky (easier to zoom in on the right place as well then, plus you can draw pretty pictures over the constellations)
Re: How far?
So I don't need to get the holiday brochures then (and Scott Broukell can give the estate agentsa miss too).
Beers all round to those who found it never the less
I hope it's been sysprepped.
Otherwise we're going to have all sorts of SSID issues if we ever meet up.
Oxygen-rich atmosphere
Is not a pre-condition to life - it's a consequence of life.
Earth did not have oxygen-rich atmosphere until life developed photosynthesis and started producing oxygen on large scale AND most of the exposed iron on the surface has been oxidised (about 1.7 billion years ago).
I'd say if we ever find an oxygen-rich atmosphere around an exoplanet that would basically guarantee that there definitely is organic life on that planet.
Clone? With chavs and everything?
Please tell it ain't so. It's depressing enough with one chav-infested planet.
At least it'll be easy to tell, just look for the beige chequered pattern in the shadow the planet casts.
Also, when we meet, we can recycle the same jokes like 'what do you call a chav in a box? innit'.
How far means how long....
The question of how far away it is matters not because of when the next GSV swings by to take us there, but of how soon until THEY GET HERE. We are fresh from the cave, but the probability is that they have been around rather longer.
Supposing that the above guess of 2000 lightyears is correct, and that we on Earth started producing detectable radiation 150 years ago, our signals arrive there in 3862AD? A lightspeed return signal gets back to us in 5862AD. Of course, if they have figured out FTL then we might get a visit a bit sooner than that.....
"Hang on, I thought we were first?"
I think that's what basically happened in '69 but we haven't been told yet
Re. "Hang on..."
Apollo 18 ?
Actually one theory doing the rounds is that the Roswell aliens originated from this system.
Distance to KOI-712-02 is 1010ly
KOI-712 is the name of the star, aka KIC 9640976. The -02 indicates this is the second unconfirmed planet orbiting the star. KOI-712-01 was discovered in 2011. Johnstonesarchive/astro/extrasolarplanets/html gives the distance for the star at 1010 ly plus other information, after -01 was discovered in '11. The star also has the 2MASS designation as J19115789+4621247. Scroll down Johnstones list of planets to 1010 lys and you will find KOI-702.
No Moon or Magnetism?
Has this planet got what it takes? I ask because I understand that planets need a magnetic field or some other form of energy shield to stop all the inhabitants frying in the cosmic stream? And don't they need a gyroscopic moon to stop them flipping end over magnetic end?
Finally, on a more serious note, I understand that Apple has already patented this planet and all its subsidiary technology but that the picture has been clouded by the discovery of a Samsung dolphin allegedly very closely related to the species claimed by Apple in its patent documentation. Apple's lawyers are on the case as I type.
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