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Great article. Very comprehensive. I learned a lot about this years draft class. I really like evaluations like these. Wish there were more of them.
Grading Anthony Davis, Damian Lillard and the rest of the 2012 draft class
By Ben Golliver
The members of the 2012 draft class are just a few weeks away from the end of their rookie seasons. Rob Mahoney examined the development of several rookies Tuesday. Now, let's go player by player through the first round to assess how the top 30 picks have fared. Letter grades are given for all players who have played at least 450 minutes this season; all others receive an incomplete. (All stats and records are through Tuesday.)
1. Anthony Davis, Hornets: A-
13.2 PPG, 8 RPG, 1 APG, 1.8 BPG, 1.1 SPG in 56 games
Here's a simple question for those expressing disappointment about Davis' rookie campaign, which has included injury setbacks and, perhaps, more modest numbers than many expected: Does he really look like anything other than a superstar in the making? Davis, who just turned 20, possesses a Player Efficiency Rating (PER) of 21.6 (the league average is 15), tops among rookie starters and second only to Pistons reserve center Andre Drummond's 22.4 for first-year players. Even though he will likely be filling out his frame for the next half-decade, Davis has performed very well around the rim, taking almost 50 percent of his shots there and finishing 70.6 percent of them. His length, which made a mockery of the NCAA last year, has translated well to the pro game and it's especially effective when he's on the move, either cutting baseline or heading toward the hoop after setting a high screen. Staying with a player that mobile and long is essentially impossible for a solid chunk of NBA defenders.
His defensive impact is already being felt and will only become more noticeable as the Hornets improve and as his overall strength increases. Opponents have found success posting him up, but he's far from the typical rookie big man who is susceptible to being picked on.
Overall, Davis would earn a solid "A" if not for his absences from the lineup. Again, this boils down to expectations. Franchise players over the last 10 years or so have evolved to a freakish level of durability. LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard, Russell Westbrook, James Harden and others have all played a vast, vast majority of their team's games since achieving recognition as a key contributor. The standard for greatness is a high bar, but it's the only measure that makes sense for a player with Davis' gifts.
2. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Bobcats: B
8.9 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 1.6 APG, 1 BPG in 67 games
Kidd-Gilchrist is half-pedestrian, half-amazing. Few players are so ineffective offensively and yet so widely respected. He is essentially only a credible threat to score when in transition, but all 30 general managers would kill to have the chance to enjoy the fruits of his growth. That's the paradox created by a 19-year-old forward with nice size, strength, quickness, length and the top motor in his class. It's not a stretch to say that he is the prototype for a modern elite defender.
Now, about the offense. He treats the three-point line as if it's off limits — he's shot just nine threes all season — and he's yet to find an area of real strength, other than dunking, as he struggles in the post, in pick-and-roll situations and as a spot-up shooter. His poor marksmanship is exacerbated by the fact that he's not really a threat to distribute off the dribble. His mission for next season is to find a way — any way — to force defenses to respect him. Big picture, the fact that Kidd-Gilchrist is half-amazing makes him a full half more amazing than just about everyone else on the Bobcats' roster. This is the last guy in Charlotte you need to fret about, even if he has a long way to go.
3. Bradley Beal, Wizards: B+
13.9 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 2.4 APG in 54 games
Beal's supporters are surely petitioning Basketball-Reference.com to list his numbers as "With John Wall" and "Without John Wall." No other rookie has been subject to such a dramatic tale of two seasons, as his most efficient scoring play types — spot-up shooting and transition — have been transformed by the presence of a real point guard. The fact that Beal couldn't hit the broad side of a barn until January throws off all of his percentages, but he's managed to climb back to a quasi-respectable PER of 13.6 and raise his three-point shooting to a very respectable 37.7 percent.
Not yet 20, Beal has a bright future, and the Wizards' team performance since Wall's return has flipped the mood in the nation's capital. Watching these two feel out each other's games over the next few seasons will be a joy to watch. Beal can continue to improve as an initiator in pick-and-roll situations, but, more important, he needs to develop a better comfort level attacking the basket and finishing in traffic if he is going to track toward elite 2-guard status.
4. Dion Waiters, Cavaliers: B-
14.7 PPG, 3 APG, 2.4 RPG, 1 SPG in 57 games
Waiters leads all rookies in usage rate despite being a 41.1 percent shooter and 31.6 percent three-point shooter. Unscientifically, he leads all rookies in terrible shots, too. But the raw tools are intriguing: He can create a shot in a flash, he's rarely afraid of the moment, he can get deep into the paint, he draws 4.5 fouls per 36 minutes and he can get hot.
The backcourt pairing with point guard Kyrie Irving makes sense, in theory, but right now it badly tilts against Waiters, as more often than not he gives off the impression that he's doing too much on offense and not nearly enough on defense. If he reins in some of the shot-selection issues, continues to look to set up drive-and-kick opportunities for shooters and concentrates his efforts on getting to the line, he could emerge as a dynamic offensive weapon. That's a lot of "ifs," though, making an arc toward a microwave bench scorer a pretty realistic possibility.
5. Thomas Robinson, Rockets (drafted by Kings): C-
4.8 PPG, 4.6 RPG, 0.4 BPG in 63 games
Robinson's name was synonymous with the words "NBA ready" last spring and yet the NBA is here, waiting, and he's not made a real impact. Some voices have already emerged, ready to write him off. But rushing to dismiss him would be a mistake, as the dysfunction permeates everyone, even the brightest of prospects, in Sacramento. That said, the biggest red flag to date is that while Robinson is totally reliant on in-the-paint opportunities for his offense, he hasn't distinguished himself as a reliable scorer around the hoop. Thought to be a fearsome finisher who would command real defensive attention, Robinson has been, mostly, an ineffective afterthought.
The Rockets offered Robinson a new lease on life at the trade deadline, an opportunity he surely welcomed. He'll be in a position to compete for a starting spot next season, pending any major free-agent or trade additions. The up-and-down Houston style should play to his strengths as an athlete. If he has to settle in as a high-energy, glass-cleaning reserve, that's an acceptable backup plan, too. Let's give him another season before we judge too harshly.
6. Damian Lillard, Blazers: A
19.1 PPG, 6.5 APG, 3.2 RPG in 70 games
The surefire Rookie of the Year has made the most of an incredibly advantageous situation. He entered the NBA with a no-nonsense attitude and tons of experience running the pick-and-roll, and he landed in Portland, where a first-year coach (Terry Stotts) was more than willing to give him the keys. Lillard has appeared in all 70 games and logged 2,703 minutes (38.6 per game), more than 900 more than any other 2012 draft pick. The Blazers have posted an above-average offense with Lillard at the helm and they've hung around the outskirts of the Western Conference playoff chase longer than just about everyone, including team management, expected.
There are areas for potential improvement. Lillard is a tad jumper-happy, launching more than six threes per game. Like a number of big-time point guards before him, he'll need to ramp up his ability to get to the free-throw line as he ages. He's far more accomplished on the offensive end than the defensive end. Lillard will turn 23 in July, making him one of the oldest players in this class. That's raised questions about his ceiling, given that he's older than Irving and Wall, and nearly as old as fourth-year point guard Jrue Holiday of Philadelphia. Optimists see him as a certain All-Star, while pessimists are more likely to peg him as a solid starter. More immediately, he gives the Blazers a real chance to make the playoffs in 2013-14 (assuming their longshot bid falls short this season).
7. Harrison Barnes, Warriors: B+
9.2 PPG, 3.9 RPG, 1.2 APG in 71 games
Let's take a long moment to acknowledge Barnes, the only full-time starter for a projected playoff team among the 2012 first-round picks. Only 20, Barnes has held up playing more than 25 minutes a game thanks to his excellent physique and top-notch work ethic. Barnes looked and carried himself like a pro as a high school senior and nothing has changed now that he is one. While he's unleashed his big-time hops on a few occasions, Barnes is really at his best as an auxiliary, spot-up option. His shooting has been decent but there's room for improvement, especially in his mid-range game.
It's quite possible that his reputation soon becomes that of a lockdown, defense-first perimeter stopper. He's smart, long, quick and disciplined, and he's rebounded fairly well for a young wing. Barnes has all the makings of a long-term pro and he's still young enough that he could emerge as a dynamic offensive threat, which is what many people forecast when he was a highly ranked prep star. He's part of a talented, stable core in Golden State — with Stephen Curry, David Lee and Klay Thompson – so anything besides steady development would be a surprise.
8. Terrence Ross, Raptors: C
6.4 PPG, 2 RPG, 0.6 SPG in 64 games
The Slam Dunk Contest champion finishes a fast break with more style and grace than anyone else in his draft class, but there's not much else to like about his body of work. He's not a multifaceted playmaker for others and he doesn't get to the free-throw line, leading many of his possessions to end with low-efficiency looks. The Raptors try to move him around and make things easier for him, which does work to a degree, but he will need to extend his shooting range for that to pay real dividends.
Exactly how and where he fits in the suddenly crowded Toronto wing rotation is a key question heading into next season. Not much about GM Bryan Colangelo's roster construction makes sense, so Ross' role is only one of a number of questions facing the Raptors. This likely isn't the best set of circumstances for his development.
9. Andre Drummond, Pistons: A-
7.3 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 1.7 BPG in 50 games
Drummond is pure intrigue, addicting intrigue. He might very well have been the league leader in causing observers to scream for him to get more playing time, more touches, more media attention, more, more, more. Before going down with a back injury in February (an injury from which he's yet to return), Drummond posted a rookie-best PER of 22.4 and compiled per-36 minute averages of 13.3 points, 13.7 rebounds, 3.1 blocks and 1.7 steals. Those are eye-popping numbers that signal All-Star potential, given that he's still 19.
A big-bodied center with excellent athleticism, Drummond knows what he does best. More than 95 percent of his field-goal attempts have come in the basket area and he finishes nearly two-thirds of them, often with emphatic dunks. It must be noted that his offense is predicated on someone setting him up, but he knows exactly what to do with a dump pass and a second-chance opportunity. Those high-percentage looks helped drive his PER, and his presence on the court significantly improved the offensive efficiency of coach Lawrence Frank's team. And, yes, the lowly Pistons were better defensively with him on the court, too, as he effectively clogs the paint simply by being out there.
We might never know why Drummond had his playing time crimped in what was clearly a rebuilding year, and it's not clear whether management and the current coaching staff will be retained next season. But whoever runs the show in 2013-14 will have to realize that Drummond's potential is far and away the best thing this franchise has going for it.
10. Austin Rivers, Hornets: F
6.2 PPG, 2.1 APG, 1.8 RPG in 61 games
It's virtually impossible to assess Rivers' rookie season without piling on. The numbers are just abysmal. Rivers, who has been out since breaking his hand on March 6, ranks last among qualified rookies with a PER of 6. He is shooting just 37.2 percent from the field. He has made only 40 percent of his shots at the rim, converted a below-average 32.6 percent from three-point range and hit 54.6 percent at the free-throw line. Gulp.
Eric Gordon's unexpected absence definitely had the effect of throwing Rivers to the wolves. Playing for one of the NBA's worst teams didn't help, either, as he often found himself trying to create in isolation situations, where he performed exceedingly poorly. To make matters worse, Rivers has already had two surgeries since draft night. The upside here is that he's still not 21 and the Hornets will ask much less of him next season, assuming Gordon is healthy. That's a good thing, because he broke under the weight of the load this year.
11. Meyers Leonard, Blazers: C
4.6 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 0.6 BPG in 57 games
Stotts, seeing that his team could remain competitive as long as he relied almost exclusively on his starters, cut Leonard's minutes before the end of November. A midseason ankle injury also sidelined Leonard for three weeks. This hasn't been a completely lost season, though, as the youthful-looking, youthful-acting Leonard has gotten his feet wet, finding that he's capable of turning his physical assets into highlight dunks with sufficient regularity.
Past the power slams, it's been hit and miss. Leonard struggles with defensive awareness, to put it kindly, as he can often be seen employing a panorama approach to isolation defense, completing a full 360-degree spin as he hopelessly tries to find the ball. Billed as a face-up threat on offense, Leonard hasn't reliably shown that type of range, although he's gotten more confident in pulling the trigger as the season has progressed.
Given his importance to the Blazers' future, Leonard was underutilized this season. In an ideal world, he would have developed enough as a rookie to make a strong play for the starting job next season. Now, the Blazers enter free agency with their center spot as a question mark.
12. Jeremy Lamb, Thunder (drafted by Rockets): Incomplete
2.2 PPG, 0.5 RPG, 0.1 APG in 20 games
Lamb hasn't gotten the chance to show he is or isn't more than another potentially valuable asset in GM Sam Presti's war chest. The scoring guard has played more than 10 minutes only twice, owing to the depth (Thabo Sefolosha, Kevin Martin, DeAndre Liggins, Reggie Jackson and now, sadly, Derek Fisher) in front of him. The Thunder acquired him in the James Harden blockbuster but might eventually decide that he is more valuable as a trade commodity than as a player. For now, Lamb's affordable rookie contact and the fact that he appeared to have significant upside coming out of UConn provides a fall-back plan for OKC as it considers Martin's fate in free agency this summer.
13. Kendall Marshall, Suns: C-
2.6 PPG, 2.1 APG, 0.7 RPG in 37 games
It's important to avoid letting a player's fit and situation take center stage in an evaluation, but Marshall's exceedingly rough circumstances in Phoenix are an unavoidable part of his narrative. Things have imploded in the desert, leaving a rookie coach to handle one of the least talented rosters in the NBA. Alvin Gentry's departure and Lindsey Hunter's arrival meant more burn for Marshall, but the results have been middling.
Of this, there can be no question: Marshall has the vision and timing to thread the needle like few other NBA players. Unfortunately, his poor shooting is a serious detriment, and he hasn't gotten to the hoop with any regularity. His PER of 6.8 is second worst among qualified rookies. The Suns' offensive efficiency, already performing at a league-worst level, falls off a cliff when he's at the controls. Clearly, he needs talent surrounding him if his brand of pass-first, pass-second, pass-third point-guard play is going to have a chance to work.
14. John Henson, Bucks: C
5.5 PPG, 4 RPG, 0.5 BPG in 54 games
Because Henson's playing time has fluctuated a lot, his body of work isn't exactly definitive. Henson has used his 7-5 wingspan to put up impressive rebounding numbers (12.3 per 36 minutes) while creating second-chance opportunities for himself. Three-quarters of his shot attempts have come in the basket area but he's finishing them at just an average rate, something you would hope to see improve as he ages and adds some upper-body strength. In theory, he should develop into a legitimate lob target on every possession. If that doesn't happen, it's not clear how he will help on the offensive end.
Defensively, it's hard to carve out a niche as a shot-blocking presence when you're on the same roster as Larry Sanders, but that's still the goal for this near 7-footer. The Bucks perform about the same defensively with and without him, which is a good place to start for any rookie big man.
15. Moe Harkless, Magic (drafted by Sixers): B-
7.2 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 1.2 SPG in 65 games
It's difficult to be an efficient wing player in the NBA as a teenager and Harkless isn't. He possesses a below-average PER (13.1), his plus-minus is quite unsightly and he holds an average or below-average shooting percentage from all 13 zones tracked by NBA.com. He lacks NBA range to open up his offense and isn't yet a player you trust in one-on-one situations. However, Harkless is a sneakily effective off-ball offensive weapon, using well-timed cuts to catch defenders napping and putting his solid athletic tools to work in receiving all types of passes and creating enough space to finish around the hoop. There's promise on the defensive end, too. The 19-year-old has untapped potential, but his shooting will have to improve.
16. Royce White, Rockets: F
Zero games
It's a tricky balancing act, but it is possible to respect and appreciate what White is going through with regard to his mental health advocacy while also being cognizant of these harsh facts: He's the only 2012 first-round pick not to appear in an NBA game this season (thus earning himself an "F," not an "Incomplete"), and he's caused more public relations headaches than all other 29 guys listed here combined (and it's not close … at all).
White said recently that NBA and Rockets officials "want him gone," and it's fair to believe that not many franchises would have stuck with him this long. Right now, it's easier to envision White out of the NBA come September 2014 (after the second and final guaranteed year of his contract expires) than it is to see him as a productive professional. The road has just been that rocky.
Is White a lost cause? The future looks quite dim at the moment, but the fact that Andray Blatche has a PER of 22.5 one year after being cast off and amnestied provides the slightest trace of "never say never" hope. There are a number of non-mental health questions that need to be considered. Is White in NBA shape? Will the Rockets have any room in the rotation for him next season? Houston will remain reticent until the end, but isn't it reasonable to believe that the bridges with the coaching staff have already been compromised, if not burned? Those are all major impediments to success.
17. Tyler Zeller, Cavaliers: C
7.9 PPG, 5.9 RPG, 1.4 APG in 64 games
Forced into a starting role by virtue of a season-ending injury to Anderson Varejao, Zeller has found himself in water that's simply too deep. He's a legit 7-footer, but not particularly strong. He's a comfortable mid-range shooter, but hasn't been a very successful one. And he's the "backbone" of what's been one of the worst defenses in the NBA. His effort and attitude can't be questioned, but that's not always enough to make for a useful player.
Areas for improvement include basically everything that involves strength: isolation defense, rim protection and his back-to-the-basket offense, to name three. Some of that might never come, which makes it all the more important that he becomes a knockdown face-up shooter. The rebuilding Cavaliers aren't in a huge hurry and should allow their Zeller project time to play out.
18. Terrence Jones, Rockets: Incomplete
3.1 PPG, 1.6 RPG, 0.4 BPG in 11 games
The Harden acquisition changed everything for the Rockets, accelerating their timeline and shifting their emphasis from developing during a rebuilding year to making a playoff push. The 21-year-old Jones surely would have seen more freedom and chances in a Harden-less world, but he's had to settle for recording six double-doubles in the D-League. Jones is best suited to play the stretch 4, but Robinson's arrival by trade and 2011 first-round pick Donatas Motiejunas' emergence could make it difficult to find time next season. Jones' raw talent and physical gifts beg for an enterprising general manager to come calling for a trade, but the cap-flexible, on-the-upswing Rockets are positioned to be picky sellers.
19. Andrew Nicholson, Magic: B+
8 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 0.5 APG in 65 games
Things have broken right in Orlando for Nicholson, who has emerged as both the most productive and efficient non-lottery pick in the 2012 class. Nicholson is one of only five first-rounders — along with Drummond, Davis, Henson and Lillard — to post an above-average PER (15.5), and he's shooting 53.5 percent. His spot-up mid-range shooting keeps defenses honest and he is fairly comfortable in the post, especially against smaller defenders, uncorking a hook shot far more often than your average 6-9 forward. The Magic have struggled on defense all season, and though Nicholson isn't a stopper, he's not the weakest link, either.
Nicholson is already 23 and his physical talent isn't overwhelming, two factors that could limit his upside. Still, Orlando shouldn't hesitate in buying out Hedo Turkoglu with an eye toward increasing Nicholson's playing time and growth possibilities next season.
20. Evan Fournier, Nuggets: Incomplete
3.1 PPG, 0.5 RPG, 0.7 APG in 29 games
It's no crime that Fournier, a slender 20-year-old Frenchman, hasn't been able to crack the rotation, given Denver's uber-deep bench and championship aspirations. His numbers are subject to both sample size and garbage-time disclaimers. He's a willing shooter, standstill and off the dribble, but he's yet to be truly tested.
21. Jared Sullinger, Celtics: C
6 PPG, 5.9 RPG, 0.5 BPG in 45 games
Sullinger has gone through an intense yo-yo of expectations over the last few years, and it only seems right that his rookie grade falls smack dab in the middle. Red-flagged for medical reasons, Sullinger started to produce with reasonable consistency in January, only to have season-ending surgery on his back in February. Evaluating the undersized power forward involves weighing the good (10.7 rebounds per 36 minutes at age 20) with the bad (it took only three months for the medical concerns to rear their ugly head). His offense has come as promised, by hitting the glass and hanging around the basket area waiting for dump-offs; his lack of length, considered a major bugaboo, didn't prevent the Celtics from having very good defensive-efficiency numbers with him on the court.
Though his on-court contributions merit a higher grade, the first criterion for judging Sullinger from here on out is whether he is able to stay on the court. Last thought: There's offensive talent that went untapped this season that could prove valuable down the road.
22. Fab Melo, Celtics: Incomplete
1 PPG, 0.2 RPG, 0.4 BPG in five games
What's the bigger indictment of Melo's rookie campaign: that his top highlight was either breaking a chair by sitting on it or giving himself a concussion by running into a door frame, or that Shavlik Randolph, who hadn't appeared in an NBA game since April 2010 and was playing in China this season, saw more action in his first two games after signing a 10-day contract in March than the center from Syracuse has played all season?
23. John Jenkins, Hawks: B-
5.3 PPG, 1.5 RPG, 0.7 APG in 54 games
Jenkins' scoring and shooting pedigree have found a nice home in Atlanta. The Hawks lost Lou Williams to a season-ending knee injury and traded offense-for-defense in moving Anthony Morrow for Dahntay Jones, opening up a nice role for Jenkins, who is shooting 39.3 percent on three-pointers. A classic corner-three monster, Jenkins finds his looks in both half-court settings and in secondary transition, where his quick, confident release can beat napping defenders. The advanced numbers don't treat him very kindly on either end, and his efficiency dwindles when he's asked to put the ball on the floor, but he should have a future as a spot-up sharpshooter.
24. Jared Cunningham, Mavericks: Incomplete
2.0 PPG, 0.4 RPG, 0.1 SPG in eight games
There didn't look to be many minutes available for Cunningham out of the gate in Dallas and that proved accurate, as O.J. Mayo has received the lion's share of the playing time at shooting guard. Cunningham has put up points during his D-League assignments but he's yet to do so efficiently, shooting only 33.5 percent in 15 games for the Texas Legends. Cunningham happens to be the only member of Dallas' current backcourt group under contract next season, with Mayo, Anthony Morrow, Darren Collison, Rodrigue Beaubois and Mike James all headed for free agency.
25. Tony Wroten, Grizzlies: Incomplete
2.8 PPG, 1.4 APG, 0.9 RPG in 31 games
Wroten has found himself as the fifth man in a four-man guard rotation in Memphis. His shaky jumper and decision-making were the concerns coming out of Washington and his field-goal percentage (38.6) and turnover rate (3.9 turnovers per 36-minutes) are in line with those expectations. The Grizzlies face a contract decision with Tony Allen this summer that will go a long way in determining Wroten's opportunities in the short term. Just 19 and blessed with good athleticism and the ability to pressure the ball on defense, Wroten will require patience. In the meantime, put him in the class of "guys who could randomly put up huge numbers at summer league."
26. Miles Plumlee, Pacers: Incomplete
0.6 PPG, 1.7 RPG, 0.3 BPG in 12 games
Plumlee's selection in the first round raised plenty of eyebrows and the fact that he hasn't yet made a field goal outside of the restricted area should raise them even further. He fits into Indiana's general aesthetic of hard work and high energy, but it's impossible to watch Indiana's possessions in which he has the ball in his hands without screaming: "Pass it as soon as possible!" Rebounding his own missed shots just might be his best asset. A meaningful leap next season seems fairly unlikely for Plumlee, who will turn 25 before training camp.
27. Arnett Moultrie, Sixers: Incomplete
3.1 PPG, 2.8 RPG, 0.2 BPG in 36 games
Shocker: Coach Doug Collins stuck tightly to his veteran big men in the absence of Andrew Bynum. Moultrie, acquired from the Heat in a draft-day dump, had season highs of 14 points and eight rebounds in a loss to the Jazz on Wednesday. A full 70 percent of his shot attempts have come in the restricted area, bolstered by a number of second-chance opportunities, but Moultrie is comfortable setting screens away from the hoop and diving or stepping out for mid-range jumpers, too. He plays with high energy and Sixers fans are right to complain about his limited action in a season that went south quickly.
28. Perry Jones III, Thunder: Incomplete
2.1 PPG, 1.5 RPG, 0.3 APG in 35 games
The Thunder are so deep and talented that playing time is hard to come by for 21-year-old prospects, even one like Jones, who was regarded as a 2012 draft-day steal. He fits right in among the long and athletic forwards in Oklahoma City, but he'll have to settle for mop-up duty in blowouts for the foreseeable future with all of this year's front line (Kevin Durant, Serge Ibaka, Kendrick Perkins, Nick Collison and Hasheem Thabeet) under contract through at least 2014-15.
29. Marquis Teague, Bulls: Incomplete
2.3 PPG, 1.4 APG, 1 RPG in 43 games
Teague never got the trial-by-fire treatment in Derrick Rose's absence because coach Tom Thibodeau has turned to Kirk Hinrich and Nate Robinson to run the show. It's easy to see why. Chicago's offense has struggled with Teague and his turnovers often jump out as being more careless than average. Short-term expectations were minimal considering his age when he was drafted, 19, and Rose's place as the franchise's centerpiece. Teague's older brother, Jeff, didn't make a real impact in Atlanta until his third season, and now he looks like a starter for years to come. Chicago really only needs Marquis to be a competent backup down the road, and that possibility is definitely still on the table.
30. Festus Ezeli, Warriors: B
2.3 points, 3.9 rebounds, 0.9 BPG in 68 games
On a Warriors team with scorers and shooters in abundance, Ezeli has been a pleasantly surprising dirty-work doer and paint-clogger. He's been a regular rotation member for virtually the entire season, with or without Andrew Bogut available, and has offered sufficient rebounding and hustle to compensate for his limited offensive utility. The Warriors are better defensively with him on the floor, and the unheralded Ezeli stands as the only non-lottery big man among 2012 first-round picks who can be expected to see real postseason minutes.
mostly spot on. I think highly unfair to plumlee though.......he's not had any chance at all, and defense is his calling card anyway. Also....too high for Harrison Barnes. His defensive deficiencies mean he should have a C plus maybe. The only other argument might be Zeller.....who i would rate higher than a C.......he has much to learn, but geez, that was a tough situation and he's been very good at times. Too high for Nicholson. A "B" would be fine....if not B minues. Also,. Id take plumlee any day of the week over Moultre....oy he has looked bad. But.....i suppose he hasnt had all that much chance.
Rockets fans are pissed at Morey for the Royce pick, but there were several mistakes made with lottery picks ahead of them so they should relax about the the #16 error. #16s rarely strike gold. Morey salvaged the Morris pick with Parsons, and flipped the Patterson mid-round selection for a guy thought to go #2 last summer; if Robinson develops into his significant upside, look out! And between Harden and Asik, Morey should get exec of the year honors.
Royce White has some kind of messiah complex and will never pay off for any other team because he seems to think the world should deliver itself to him, instead of focusing on growing as a player and generally making people want him around, and glad to have him around.
As a Blazers fan, I am SOOOO happy we were able to draft Lillard! Point guard had been a problem since Terry Porter left years ago, and now they have one who could be a 10-time All-Star over a 12-15 year career. Leonard will improve and given a lottery pick and perhaps an upper-level free agent signing, the Blazers could be a playoff contender next year. Shooting guard position definitely needs an upgrade as I think Matthews could be awesome off the bench (instant scoring a la Vinnie Johnson AKA "The Microwave"). Side note, Gary Payton like Lillard was from Oakland and attended Oregon State, so there's a tradition of Oakland players lighting it up in the Beaver State!
No Valanciunas....? Wow.
I think that's the risk he had to take,he would never thought White's issue can be so complicated. Other than that, I think Morey done a pretty good job there. Thomas Robinson/Patrick Patterson swap is simply brilliant( If you are a fan of Rockets). Even if Robinson doesn't work out the they want, he can be the trade bait for something else (comparing with Patterson)
@Darren1 Congrats on picking Damian at #6, hopefully the #11 pick will yield an above average starter too (though that is still years away). Mathews isn't that kind of lights out scorer, he doesn't have the handle, that's not his game, it's a ridiculous dream on your part. Mathews is a nice two way guard that most every other team would love to have as a starter. Look to add Dalembert and, say, Brewer, Dunleavy or Korvair and make the playoffs consistently begining next season, so hopefully you make the right pick in this coming draft. Aldridge and Batum need to step it up and be more aggressive every night.
@acfaubs It's players from the 2012 draft. Though Valanciunas is a rookie, he was taken in the 2011 draft.
@dkilgored @acfaubs Instead of name-calling and virtually trying to one up a person, how about pointing out the error in a civilized fashion, then continue having a discussion about basketball?
@dkilgored @acfaubs And you look like an idiot for not acknowledging his initial mistake with a good and sincere follow up!
@grangers.dental.plan I definitely overlooked that. My sincerest apologies (Toronto inferiority complex, we can't help it).
@grangers.dental.plan @acfaubs Yeah... it's hard for me to decide where to focus and channel my resentment, between our shitty GM and the media -- who (rightfully) give the Raptors and their players so little recognition. The blame always does seem/have to go back to Colangelo though. Without moves like the Fields signing and questionable draft decisions like you mentioned, I wouldn't have such a chip on my shoulder and have to constantly defend this franchise, and the media would actually have a reason to pay us some mind. You're right in speculating that it's incredibly frustrating to follow a Colangelo-managed team. The man has no direction or salary cap management.
@acfaubs Oh, and don't even get me started on Landry Fields' poison contract. When a GM is offering large contracts for the sole purpose of possibly screwing up another team's chances to sign a player (Steve Nash), that GM should be out of a job. And then there's trading a slightly protected 1st round pick for Lowry in 2012, then shopping him at the deadline in 2013. I think Colangelo should start an all-boy band called "No Direction."
@acfaubs No prob dude. I'd overlook things frequently if my mind was constantly trying to decipher the rationale behind Colangelo's moves. Drafting Ross made no sense, with a similar, better player in DeRozan already on the roster. Then trading for Gay when the team is already log jammed at the wing? There's clearly no direction from the front office on that team, and as a fan, that's got to be incredibly frustrating.
@CarlosBMorarles1 @acfaubs @grangers.dental.plan
dump that gm. truer words have never been spoken. colangelo is working the always effective 10 year plan. by then we should be paying luxury taxes with 1st round fodder being the team's ceiling. jerry west he aint.
@acfaubs @grangers.dental.plan i like toronto, man hope u guys can dump that gm and build a contender.


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Book your room at Chilston Park Hotel
Classic Manor houseMax Occupancy: 2 adults
Executive Double Manor houseMax Occupancy: 2 adults
Double bed (mews)Max Occupancy: 2 adults
Executive Queen bed mewsMax Occupancy: 2 adults
4-star romantic hotel with a restaurant in Maidstone (Lenham)
This romantic hotel is located in Maidstone (Lenham), where area attractions include Leeds Castle, Bredgar and Wormshill Light Railway, and St. Mary's Church. Regional attractions also include Chart Hills Golf Club and Godinton House and Gardens.
Hotel Features
In addition to a restaurant, Chilston Park Hotel features a bar/lounge. Other amenities include a coffee shop/café and complimentary wireless Internet access.
Room Amenities
LCD televisions come with satellite channels. Guestrooms also feature complimentary wireless Internet access, complimentary high-speed (wired) Internet access, and DVD players.Information missing or incorrect? Tell us!
Chilston Park Hotel
- The Overview
Dining options at the hotel include a restaurant and a coffee shop/café. A bar/lounge is on site where guests can unwind with a drink. A complimentary breakfast is offered each morning. Public areas are equipped with complimentary high-speed wired and wireless Internet access.
This 4-star property offers access to audiovisual equipment and small meeting rooms. Event facilities include conference/meeting rooms, a ballroom, and exhibit space. This romantic hotel also offers a library, a terrace, and barbecue grills.
Chilston Park Hotel is a smoke-free property.
- Multiple large conference rooms
- Audiovisual equipment
- Total number of rooms - 53
- 24-hour front desk
- Picnic area
- Ballroom(s)
- Banquet facilities
- Number of floors - 3
- Restaurant
- Bar/lounge
- Barbecue grill(s)
- Coffee/tea in lobby
- Coffee shop or café
- Free breakfast
- Dry cleaning/laundry service
- Elevator/lift
- Event catering
- Exhibit space
- Express check-out
- Fireplace in lobby
- Half board rates available
- Full board rates available
- Free Wi-Fi
- Free wired high-speed Internet
- Library
- Multiple small meeting rooms
- Patio
- Garden
- Terrace
- Room service (24 hours)
- Year Built 1700
- Free outdoor parking
- Smoke-free property
- Use of nearby fitness center (discount)
- Video library
- Wedding services
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Available in all rooms: Free Wi-Fi, Free wired high-speed Internet
Available in some public areas: Free Wi-Fi, Free wired high-speed Internet
- Parking
Free outdoor parking
- The Room
- Pay movies
- Coffee/tea maker
- Daily housekeeping
- Hypo-allergenic bedding available
- Hair dryer
- Iron/ironing board
- Complimentary newspaper
- Direct-dial phone
- Complimentary bottled water
- Minibar
- Turndown service
- Private bathroom
- Bathrobes
- Complimentary toiletries
- Shower/tub combination
- Satellite TV service
- DVD player
- Desk
- Rollaway/extra beds available
- Free Wi-Fi
- Free wired high-speed Internet
- Connecting / adjoining rooms available
- Cribs/infant beds (complimentary)
- Individually furnished
- Individually decorated
- The Eats
A complimentary English breakfast is served each morning between 7 AM and 10:30 AM.
Culpepers Restaurant - Overlooking the garden, this restaurant specializes in British cuisine and serves breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Guests can order drinks at the bar and enjoy alfresco dining (weather permitting). Afternoon tea is offered. Reservations are required.
24-hour room service is available.
- Out and About
The recreational activities listed below are available either on site or nearby; fees may apply.
- Golfing nearby
- Golf - driving range nearby
- Golf - miniature nearby
- Ice skating nearby
- Swimming nearby
- Racquetball/squash nearby
- Aerobics nearby
- Tennis nearby
- Pilates classes/instruction nearby
- Yoga classes/instruction nearby
- Mountain biking nearby
- Bicycle rentals nearby
- Hiking/biking trails nearby
- Helicopter/airplane tours nearby
- Horse riding/rental nearby
- Bird watching nearby
- Playground nearby
- Fishing on site
- Running track/path on site
- Accessibility
To make requests for specific accessibility needs, complete the "Special or Accessibility Requests" section of "Trip Preferences" when you book your hotel.
- Accessible bathroom
- Accessible path of travel
- Accessible parking
- In-room accessibility
The Fine Print for Chilston Park Hotel
- Check-in
Minimum check-in age is 18
Check-in time starts at 3 PM
- Check-out
Check-out time is 11 AM
- Pay
Accepted at this hotel: American Express American Express, MasterCard MasterCard, Visa Visa
- You need to know
Extra-person charges may apply and vary depending on hotel policy.
Government-issued photo identification and a credit card or cash deposit are required at check-in for incidental charges.
Special requests are subject to availability upon check-in and may incur additional charges. Special requests cannot be guaranteed.
Noise-free rooms not guaranteed
- Fees
- The following fees and deposits are charged by the property at time of service, check-in, or check-out.
The above list may not be comprehensive. Fees and deposits may not include tax and are subject to change.
- Breakfast fee: GBP 14.95 per person (approximately)
- We Should Mention
The property has connecting/adjoining rooms, which are subject to availability and can be requested by contacting the property using the number on the booking confirmation.

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I am not a pot stirrer.
I'm just trying to make a few Americans think about things they find uncomfortable, and are most probably true.
Pretty sure its there but never got through it. I would rather suggest you read 'Atlas Shrugged' and 'The Fountainhead'. Ian, the original pot stirrer, also needs to study those, as his suggestion of societal rule by 'committee' is death to the human soul, spirit and productivity.but if in your collection of books you hace c.s. louwis's book the screw tape letters please read it. if not i'll send you a copy.
Single moms should be issued guns by the government to protect themselves and kids.
And cookie, one need not gain much weight on Prednisone if they can control the urge to eat from that terrible drug. And most doctors do not know how to use it anyway, causing much uneeded suffering.
After shopping in every sort of store in most of east and west europe, and not seeing any stump legged monsters weighing as much as a Trabant, [except for a few babushka's that at 80 were still planting potatoes and plucking geese] one gains a bit of x-ray vision at the American Wallymart. We have a problem here.
I am not a pot stirrer.
I'm just trying to make a few Americans think about things they find uncomfortable, and are most probably true.
Last edited by Ian Gills; 03-06-2011 at 02:13 PM.
hey IAN look who is back...little old me
it does no tlook like much has changed here in a year
glad I missed out on it ....
thought I would drop by and say hello
rather a boring day, sitting here babysitting the kids
thought I would see what has transpirred
I feel someones blood pressure riseing already
Last edited by master plumber mark; 03-06-2011 at 02:56 PM.
In regards to your reply about the steriods, I suggest that you contact every doctor and explain to them the proper use of Prednisone; and, the steriods used in the mega doses to keep me alive, didn't have anything to do with eating; the use of Prednisone causes the weight gain not the eating, because it keeps your body from burning calories and working more efficiently, ie breathing, by producing more red blood cells in your body. WHICH is why body builders love the stuff. BUT, people are under the misconception, as yourself, in that it increases the appetite thus, increasing the body weight. I was on it for 1.5 years, and was weaned off it for 1.5 years. My body weight now is a svelte 118 lbs, and your head would spin if you saw me my friend.
Ask your doctor he will explain it all to you. You will marvel at it all the knowledge you will gain, Ballsvalve.
Hey MM, Cass says, " hello" I am on the phone with him right now.
Please send hugs and kisses to cass for me.....
have you been doing ok??
I got to go type up some estimates now,,,,
been very busy lately,,,,
Cass is faxing invoices over to the company, he is doing great! Today is his Bday, we wanted to get together but I had to work, so it will have to wait. Plus, he has a cold. I don't want the cold, I have had some scary moments, one lately, but, it turned out to be a false alarm, thank God. Did I say, thank God... let me say it again, lol...Life is good. Even though they don't know what it was, they know what it wasn't, lymphoma. Went shopping today after work, bought a new purse,
How's the kiddies? Can't believe you are still babysitting!
Don't know if you heard, but, I got a grandson now. WOW... a grandmother! That is scary MM, I have been babysitting, I stink at it too. Am open to pointers.
Last edited by Cookie; 03-06-2011 at 05:15 PM.
I thougt you lived in the northwest?? and does not cass lives in the midwest.....???
did someone move recently ???...
Congrads on the grandson.....
having grandkids has a tendency to mellow people out a whole lot..
I think it trips some sort of DNA gene reaction when you link up with your childrens kids
soul memories or something......
gives a whole new meaning or dimention to your life...
or something like that....
take care
No, we live pretty close together, not far. Grandkids, I waited on one, and " surprise mom!" he said, "you're going to be a grandmother." I was elated. He is now almost 6 months old, a real beauty he is. He is a white blonde, blue eyes like my son. I am beginning to see alittle bit of red it in though. I never want to put him down when I hold him. I like just looking at him, and think, arrogantly, think, this wouldn't had happened if it weren't for me, lol. Ah, I like kids.
Last edited by Cookie; 03-08-2011 at 04:19 AM.
Body builders use androgenic-anabolic steroids which are an entirely different class of drugs.use of Prednisone causes the weight gain not the eating, because it keeps your body from burning calories and working more efficiently, ie breathing, by producing more red blood cells in your body. WHICH is why body builders love the stuff.
Might be, but I am still right about what I said about the eating, breathing, red blood cells, etc. I live with a Hemolytic anemia with a cold antibody. My counts was so low one winter that with gloves on while shoveling snow, I got frostbite on my finger, and then, it turned into a staph infection, nearly lost my finger. The really important finger, too, LOL. What I deal with, you wouldn't want my friend.
You can buy some nice places in Vegas and California for the homes material cost now. No snow tires required. And no frostbite unless you get locked in your freezer.


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