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Dear Kyle, I have a bit of experience with Antique Asian Spiritual Art as my teacher, Rudi, was a dealer in it in NYC in the 60's and early 70's. Then in the 80's and 90's with Stuart Perrin also. I had a modest collection for a long time. After living in Shree Gurudev Rudrananda Yoga Ashram in Big Indian, NY in the early 1970's, there were many quality antique pieces there. Very fortunate to have been around this art, huge buddhas, great large Tibetian and Indian bronzes and Thankas, etc. I am very pleased and satisfied with the beautifully carved and finished 3' wood Ganesh recently purchased. The value was spectacular, and he makes a welcome addition to our meditation hall. Thank you Lotus Sculpture for making affordable quality pieces accessable to all. Warmly, Michele Galante, MDReviewer:Michele Galante, MD (Suffern, New York, US)
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- Materials: 18th Century Indian Bronze Approximately 250 Years Old
- Total Height Including Base: 8 inches
- Base Width & Depth: 4 x 4 inches
- Weight: 2 pounds
- Use for a small alter
- Natural patina finish
- A true one-of-a-kind antique!
This small puja vessel features a small standing Ganesh figure under a palanquin. Ganesh has 4 arms. The outer arms hold a noose and an elephant goad. It is difficult to tell what is in his front two hands but they most likely would hold his broken tusk and some Indian sweets. His fingers are elongated with many of the features of the statue being smoothed down from years of handling. The small area in front of Ganesh can either be used as an vessel for oil and a wick or a area to place small offerings to Lord Ganesh. This is a beautiful piece for a small home altar.
Thiis hand made, bronze sculpture is a one-of-a-kind antique statue, hand\ncast by the artists of south India. It is a household puja statue\npurchased from an Indian home and is approximately 250 years old.
About Ganesh
~A Hymn from Sri Bhagavat-Tathva~
The chubby, gentle, wise, elephant-headed Ganesh, or Ganesha, is one of Hinduisms most popular deities. He is the remover of obstacles, the deity whom worshippers first acknowledge when they visit a temple. He is also patron of letters and of learning; he is the legendary scribe who, using his broken tusk, which he often holds, wrote down parts of the Mahabharata epic. Ganesh is usually depicted colored red; he is pot bellied, has one tusk broken, and has four arms that may hold a pasam, a goad, and a pot of rice or sweetmeats. The sweet meats are held in a type of bowl known as a laddus. His appetite for these sweets is legendary and offerings of them are often left at his shrine.
Statues of Ganesh can be found in most Indian towns. His image is placed where new houses are to be built; he is honored at the start of a journey or business venture, and poets traditionally invoke him at the start of a book.
A pasam is a triple twine weapon. Each of the three twines represents, arrogance and conceit, Maya - the illusory nature of the real world, ignorance. In Hindu ideology weapons are a viewed as symbolic tools to destroy the ego rather than to cause any type of bloodshed. Goads (or elephant prods) are typically used to direct elephants. Goads are symbolic of how one should steer the soul away from the ignorance and illusions of this earthly world just as a mahout would steer an elephant away from any treacherous path.
Bronze is an extremely durable metal made from a combination of 5 metals; copper, iron, tin, with minute additions of silver and gold. This combination is called Panchaloha bronze and is the basis for making the sacred Hindu temple statues of India and the world. Copper is the most prevalent metal in the alloy. Copper also gives the metal a softer composition that allows the bronze artisans to carve the details that are prevalent in each piece. All the South Indian bronze sculpture Lotus Sculpture carries are Panchaloham and thus suited for any home altar or community temple.
Because of the durability of the metal not much is needed to maintain a bronze sculpture. Many of our customers purchase a bronze statue and perform daily puja and abhisheka consisting of bathing the Hindu deity in ghee, milk, coconut milk or other liquids. In this case nothing is needed to keep the statue clean as it will be bathed daily. If the sculpture is used for "darshan" or simply viewing the sculpture it is best to dust the statue as needed so no dirt collects in the details of the sculpture. For both polished golden bronzes and antique patina bronze statues if you would like the sculpture to shine use a cotton cloth with some coconut oil or other natural oil to wipe down the piece as needed.
Many of our bronze Hindu statues have been placed in outdoor temples. Bronze's durability makes it perfect for cold winters and hot summers of any climate. We suggest you bathe the sculpture every couple of months so that dirt does not collect on the sculpture and then use a cotton cloth with some natural oil to give the statue a shine. Both indoors and outdoors a bronze statue can be left alone which, overtime, will give the bronze an antique patina.
On some bronze statues you can see small hints of lime green, verde-gris patina. Some people prize this color for its age others want to remove it. If you would like to remove the verde-gris use a tooth brush with some coconut oil or other natural oil and lightly go over the verde-gris. This should remove the unwanted patina from the sculpture.
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There are other things that are Summer to me. Getting out of 6th grade back in the early 70's and from a small school we didnt have 6th grade Graduation like they have now. We were just let out of school, and the amount of excitement was equal between the anticipation of the last bell ringing for the season as much for us as the teachers.
We had a really neat teacher one year that gave us our folders that she had for everyone in her class, and at the end of the year, we got to have our friends sign our folder. We felt just like the Seniors getting their Yearbooks signed. Of course there was the standard, stay sweet, and stay just as nice as you are, and such, but my favorites were the more creative ones. Like U Me = Friends 4 Ever.
I dont remember who wrote that, so much for being friends forever. But I wish I had my folder so I could go back to that day and feel the excitement I felt of being outside and asking for people to sign it, just as if I were seeking autographs from celebs. Seems funny now but it was serious business then.
Catching lightning bugs in a glass jar and poking holes in the top and then putting pieces of grass inside so they wouldnt get hungry was always a Summer thing.
Making Homemade Ice Cream in a freezer that had to be turned. Having to have someone sit on the top of the freezer and always making sure there was enough rock salt around. Of course there was always the discussion of what to put on top of it, Hershey Syrup or fresh peaches or strawberries. I still love mine just plain Vanilla with lots of the Vanilla flavoring in it, and ice cold. I havent bought any Hershey Syrup in many years, but the smell comes rushing back to memory just as if it were yesterday. It was an elixer that was as decadent as it could be. Man, I loved that stuff. And there was BOSCO too. Bosco was usually reserved for Chocolate Milk. Again, it had to be ICE cold and whole milk in a large glass.
My dad was in the military, and I have a brother and a sister, both older than I. So when they were younger, Daddy was in the service and they got to travel through Europe. Well, when I came along, we were here, so I was taken on vacation State side. It was a big deal to get to go on vacation. He took Mother and I to Washington DC and all up the Eastern Seaboard. We went to Canada. We went to every state between here and Canada. We visited a lot of Historical places and I got to take the White House tour. This was when President Nixon was in office. At that time you didnt have all of the security measures that are in place now, and I got to see President Nixon in a window putting on his cufflinks. We were on Penn Avenue, actually outside the gate, but there was just a little bit of movement in the window in the East Wing, and sure enough, through the lens of Daddys binocculars, I saw the President. What a thrill. I was 12.
Of course also during the Summer season another year was the Watergate Trial, so the rest is history so to speak.
That was the year that nothing seemed to be on television except that. No I Love Lucy or anything good like that. Makes for a long summer when there is not much on tv.
Or the Summer Olympics was always on. Again, not much for a kid to watch, but thats what the bicycle and the dog and the hula hoop were for. Or roller skates. Or springy shoes. I dont know if it was just something "homemade" or it they were sold in stores, but we had a pair of "springy shoes" that were just what they said. You could spring on them and it made walking difficult, but once you got past the scraped knees and skinned hands it was fun.
There is no commercial Lemonade that tastes like Aunt Myrtles. She made it with the right amount of lemons and sugar and some how got it so cold that the glass would sweat in envy of what it was holding. Man, what I would give for some of her Lemonade.
Barbers Milk had a milkman that would make deliveries to her house when I was a kid. So as a special treat when I was spending the night with her and her daughter Cindy, she would leave a note out for the Milkman to leave us some ORANGE ADE drink. I dont know if they have it in all states, but if not, you should request it. I have seen it in the stores recently, but I dont think it tastes as strong as it did when I was a kid. May be that my tastebuds are not as sensitive as they used to be, or maybe because we were not exposed to a lot of drinks like we are now. But it was some good stuff.
Also Summer meant going to Gadsden to Noccalooa Falls.
It was a shorter drive and they had picnic areas and cold spray would come off of the falls if you stood close enough. You didnt have to pay to go to the park, nor to play amongst the spring loaded childrens rides that were there. You could ride a rocking horse or a pig or a spotted mouse. It was wonderful.
There was always an ice cream truck around. The sound of the bells and the same song going on and on over and over again, but it was worth whatever change I could gather to get a FudgeCicle. Frozen solid. Hard to bite. But so good.
When I went to my grandmothers house, she would be outside usually in her garden. They raised a lot of vegetable and of course she had her flowers. I didnt take a lot of time to appreciate the hard work that she put into raising the crops that we all shared in, but what I would give now to tell her thank you. Thank you for raising corn and beans and tomatoes and all of the things that were mixed and mashed together to make soup mix by the gallons and then put in freezer bags and boxes. Soup mix. The staple of the winter months. That and hot cornbread with a glass of milk. Food of the best type and raised right there in Alexandria.
My Aunt Gladys would make me a shorts outfit every summer too. I can still hear the sound of her sewing scissors cutting cloth on a wooden table. The very thought of that sound echoes in my ear and I can almost go back to a very distinct time and place in my head. She smoked Salems, and sometimes I think I smell cigarette smoke and feel like a kid again.
There was always seed catalogs at the relatives houses. No matter where in the county you went, to either side of the family, someone had a Burpee catalog. Or a Moorse-Ferry seed catalog. I would look at those pages and stare at the colors of the peppers and tomatoes and dream of one day having a space of my own to grow every color of the rainbow.
Its summertime again here in Alabama. Not as much red dirt and chirt roads as there used to be. Not as much space for toad frogs and bull frogs and lightning bugs to roam but its still Summer in the South. And even though I am older, and wish I could say wiser, its still the most wonderful place to be, to me, because its home and its my roots.
Its where my Mother and Father were raised and where they spent their youth and their parents before them. So when you go outside and sit on your porch or in your swing this summer, take time to think about how you got to where you are in this world.
I do and I am so thankful for the life I have been granted, hot summer weather and all.
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Arent People A Hoot?!!!
by DebraThomas
Apr 20, 2012
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I guess maybe its just me. I wonder sometimes about the people that I seem to "attract." Out of nowhere people feel free to give me their opinion about things that I really have no control over, nor interest in, but yet they share their feelings. And not always are they the nicest feelings either. But I stand or sit there and listen. Here are two examples that come to mind. Sorry if I dont remember the exact names. Some days I dont remember my own.
I was in a local grocery store and I wrote my check, as usual. The cashier put it in the register and it kicked it back. And she tried again. And it kicked it back. Now am I the only person in the world that starts getting nervous and it seems as if time stands still when waiting on the receipt to come out or the APPROVED display to come up on the little thing you have to put your PIN in when using a card? It seems like I am having a heat stroke, dressed funny, having a severe acne breakout, and just all manner of things all at the time I am waiting on that darn APPROVED message, or the receipt to come out. Well, after 3 tries she had to call the manager who at the time must have been at the Georgia state line, because of the time it seemed to take for him to get to the register. I could hear sighs all the way back to the end of the line. I was so ashamed. Oh the shame!! Anyway, he punched in a lot of numbers and the thing cleared and I was on my way!! Yeah, Free at Last!! So I am taking my little cart of specials to the car when all of the sudden I hear someone walking fast behind me and saying, "Ma'm. Ma'm. Hey LADY!!!" Well, I was in shock thinking, Oh my gosh, please tell me that I havent left the groceries on the counter, or my pants have fallen down to my waist or whatever, so I kept walking. Then finally the lady got in front of me and stopped my little grocery cart. She and her husband that is, stopped my cart.
To the best of my recollection, I think she said her name was Shirley Whitehead or something like that and I think she was from a neighboring county. She proceeded to tell me that this store carried the only bologna that her grandson would eat and he was allergic to peanuts and soy and so on.....and on.....and yes, on. Well, I was concerned but also on my way to about 15 other stops that day, and it was about 100 degrees, so I was politely trying to get away. But she wasnt going to have any part of it. She and her husband and whom I suppose was her grandson, proceeded to follow me to the car. She also proceeded to tell me that if that episode with the check had happened to her, she would have told that cashier to take that receipt and that check and (sorry to be so crass but these are her EXACT words - and remember this is from a STRANGER)
I stood there with my mouth open. I was absolutely speechless. I couldnt believe a stranger was telling me this. And in front of her grandson at that. And if that wasnt bad enough, she repeated it.
"Yep, I would tell her she could take that check and that receipt and Cram it up her A%^&*(."
I absolutely cant remember where I park my car half the time or where my keys are, but I can remember that lady and her speech and the look on her family's face as she said those words to me.
They didnt have a look as a matter of fact. Not one of shock. Not one of surprise. Just a look. As if she does this all the time.
She proceeded to tell me in great detail about the way the clerk had treated me and that it was just an embarrasment to me and she felt sorry for me and she wanted to tell me that.
So now every time I have a clerk or anyone that makes me feel like I am in the wrong, I just silently say to myslef.....well you can just take that ____________ (whatever the item may be) and Cram It .......................
On another time out in public, my husband and I were eating dinner at a restaurant. The race was in town, and there was not a whole lot of choices in the evening time that were not crowded, so we wound up at a place we didnt normally frequent.
I am eating my dinner. Not even making eye contact with this lady nor her dinner companion. For some reason, she comes over to our table, and states her name, ( I think it was something like Stella Jones Williams or something like that, sorry if thats wrong) and out of nowhere she started telling us her story of this man she was with wasnt her husband. He was just someone she picked up at the races. She wasnt going home with him but he didnt know that, and she wanted a good dinner out. Ok. Nice.
But if that wasnt enough, I stopped eating my food, not because it was out of politeness, but because she had food being projected from her mouth, (it was corn I recall) and it was hitting my baked potato. Not much appetite after that.
So my husband, whom I love with all my heart, looks at me and says in front of the lady, "Debra, why do you attract strange people?"
Well what do you say to something like that? The lady finally went back to her date of the evening, and I just paid the bill and walked out with him after he finished his food.
So why may I ask do people share the strangest things with me?
I dont know.
Maybe for the same reason they ask if I have a twin sister; if I have ever worked at _______ fill in the blank; do I know I have grey hair (yes, and its natural, not dyed).
I am an easy going person most of the time. But to answer the most asked question, yes. I do know I have grey hair. Actually its white. Its natural. Its mine. I like it this way, and dont care to color it. But thank you for bringing that to my attention.
Now, why dont these folks tell me something like,
Hey did you know that you have something in your teeth? Or that you have tucked your skirt into your pantyhose?
Folks, thats info I could actually use.
Thanks folks, you may be a little different than the rest of the world, but hey, you make my life more interesting.
And to my husband, dear, I have no idea why I attract the folks I do.
What attracted me to you? Hmmmmmm?
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Thank you, Senior Citizens.
by DebraThomas
Apr 20, 2012
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As one of my mothers caregivers, I have learned a few lessons of late. I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks, because at 86 years of age, my Mother is still teaching me. I am the old dog, she is the well trained and educated and experienced teacher. And I never want to stop learning.
She has taught me from a small child to present day to respect others. She may be having a problem with memory these days, but she still knows how to respect others and shows it several times a day in her actions. If one of us, being her family members, takes her a snack or something different to eat, she will offer some not only to us but to whomever is in the room with her. Be it French Fries or Little Debbie Snack Cakes, she will always offer. Sometimes someone will take her up on it and you can see her smile. She has been sharing her love of service to folks as long as she has been alive.
And then there are the other folks in the Rehab center where she is located. They show the lines of time in their faces and hands and some arent able to get around much anymore, but they all have a story. Just ask them.
These folks with grey in their hair, and wrinkles and age in their eyes, can tell you what it was like during the Depression or the War. Doesnt matter which war, they can take you there with just mere words. If its the Depression era you want to discuss, they lived it and dont ever want to go back through that again.
Or on a lighter note, ask them about what it was like with no television or computers. What must they think of these airplanes and jets and satellites in space. Its amazing what we come to think of as everyday things and dont even get excited anymore when there is another launch of a satellite into space or a new breakthrough in modern medicine. We take so much for granted.
These folks have been through so much more than we will ever see in our lifetime. We will hopefully never know what its like to have to go and milk the cows by hand before school time, or have to gather the water for the washing of clothes from the spring down the way, or the washing of the clothes on a rock and washboard. Or better yet, a wringer washing machine.
These folks havent had many drive thru meals, or jeweled nails or any of the latest fashions. Up until a few years ago, many of them still sewed their own clothing. And if I must say, it was a better grade of clothing than we have today.
It seems to me that everything these days is disposable. Cars can be replaced in just a few years. Computers are outdated as soon as you walk out the door. Food can be eaten on the go, sometimes without stopping. News is at your disposal 24 hours a day and the sex of a baby can be known and shared around the world in just a few moments.
I dont want to have to chop wood for the stove so that I can cook 3 meals a day; and I dont want to have to get behind the mule and plow the garden and fear a dry spell that might make my crops fail. But I admire the ones before me that did do this. I not only admire them, I appreciate them. More than I can ever say.
Because of this older generation, we have the paved way we have today.
We are spoiled. All of us. We have electricity in all the rooms and are not limited to one bulb hanging from a string in the ceiling. Or no forced air coming from vents in every room. We dont have to wait on the news to come over the radio at a certain hour to know whats going on in the world.
Thank you seems like such a simple thing to say. But thats all I can think of.
As I go to visit my mother and aunt in the Rehab place, I try to take the time to smile and at least speak to as many of these older folks as I can.
To grow old will be a great honor I hope to reach. And if I am so fortunate, I pray that I will have my husband and my family to see me reach that old age. The age where wisdom is seen in my eyes, and work is seen in my hands.
Thank you Senior Citizens. It seems to me that we owe you a lot more than a discount on certain days or a free cup of coffee.
We owe you a standing ovation. And a lot more. Respect would be a good start.
I shall try to respect more elders. I hope others will also do the same.
Thank you for letting me share my thoughts and if you get the chance, thank someone that is of age. It doesnt matter what for. They will know. Just say thanks.
It will make their day, and yours too.
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Did you listen to music today or have a Debra day?
by DebraThomas
Apr 19, 2012
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I just got a call from a friend of mine and she said, we missed you at the meeting the other day and she proceeded to tell me the details of this missed chance I had to visit with others. During said meeting, evidentally she messed up something or somewhere and she told them, "Uh Oh, I'm having a Debra kind of day." We both laughed and I am sure the people in the circle of friends also laughed. And I am honored. To know that I am now famous enough to have a day named after me. Its great. I mean its not like a Ferris Bueller day or anything or St Patricks Day but at least I know that the words, Debra Day, may catch on and I will be the person the day is named for! Famous. Finally. Not for a great work of writing material, not for fortune, not for curing a disease but for admitting that I screw up and when I do, its a royal screw up. And, I tell about it. I laugh at myself and others laugh either with or at me, never sure which, but whatever the case, they laugh. And my day is made if I can make someone laugh. I am sure I make folks laugh all the time and I just dont know it, or its because I am not trying. I am sure that folks laugh at me for having spilled stuff down the front of my blouse and not knowing it; or driving with something hanging out of the car door or window or trunk. Or think that I am having some sort of a fit because I am directing music while driving. See I just got a CD player put in my car. First time I have EVER had a CD in a car. You have read about my cell phone so you know I am little (lot) behind the times. So when we got the CD player put in the car, I didnt even think to take a CD from home. So I had to buy one. Did you know they dont have as many CD's in stores as they used to? And then it was Tony Bennett. Now you younger folks wont have any idea who that is, except when I tell you the CD I bought has Lady Gaga; and Amy Winehouse singing with him. And he also has Michael Buble with him and a host of others like kd lange and the such. Anyway, when he gets to singing some of those old standards that I know and love so well, I get to driving and singing and directing music as if I were in an orchestra. Strange how music can have some sort of effect on folks. Loud music that has repetative noises makes me nervous inside. Cant understand whats being said and then its repeated about 1000 times. Or what my husband loves, which is what I call TING TING music. You know, New Age music. No words or if there are words they are sung in Gaelic or something and again I cant understand the words. Or the other one he likes is what I call cartoon music, which is really Classical music but I can usually name the cartoons or commercials that it came from. So did you listen to music today? And if you did can you name the type it is? Country. New Country. Outlaw Country. and so on. So many names for so many things, which brings me to DEBRA day. It used to be called being blonde by some folks but then I think people who really are blonde took exception. So my friend has named it DEBRA day instead. See, its not only when I am driving and directing music that makes it seem I am out of it mentally, well its the kind of screw up things I do. Like the other day, I wanted to and needed to cut the grass here at the Ponderosa. It was weedy and I am afraid of snakes, and bugs, and ticks and lice and grass cut feet and well you get the idea, so I decided I would cut the grass. So I bought me a lawnmower last year. My husband says its not much above a toy lawnmower because its small and doesnt have a lot of gadgets. But it fits my hands just fine. And I can pick it up and put it in the car to take it to Mothers or wherever it needs to go, like to the C&C Small Engine Repair shop. I have learned not only the way there, but roads to take to be sure the lawnmower doesnt fall out of the trunk while getting there. So I go the back way through Saks instead of down 431 to the shop, taking roads that make me go downhill alot instead of up hill. Then when I get to come home with my prize possession, I drive another set of streets, making me go downhill coming home. That way the lawnmower goes forward and not backwards. Makes sense to me. Well, I was thrilled with myself because I got the lawnmower in the car by myself. Got the twine and tied it in there really good, and drove to the shop. The man called and said it was ready. I was so happy!!! So I went back to get my lawnmower. Seems the problem was a cord that had been put on wrong at the factory, it wasnt my fault after all, and they fixed it. YEAH!!! So I take my backroads coming home. All is well. I get home and I have a certain pair of clippers that I like to use in the yard to clip roses and such. Love those clippers. So I got them suckers and I went to clipping all the twine I had put around the lawnmower. I clipped and I cut and I was getting the lawnmower out when I noticed that I had cut the cord that is used to start the lawnmower into. Smack dab into. Well, I didnt bother to get it out of the trunk, I just tied it back up, went back to C&C and when I drove up, the guys there said, what happened? Then of course they had a laugh and tied a knot in it and told me to go home.....safely. I did. And I cut that grass (it took me 2 days because I am so out of shape) but I got it done. The next day I was going to tidy up a little bit and get the parts that I missed. It kept going dead so I turned it over to see what it was choking on. There was a shoelace or something wrapped around it, so I got it off and kept trying and it wouldnt go. I tried and I tried to start it but it blew this blue smoke out the muffler and I just kept trying. My neighbor, Jeff, next door told me to stop, you dont use something thats smoking! Well that nice man came and helped me to finish up. I was so happy. But the next morning I was up early and ready to take the lawnmower to the shop again. I did and as soon as I drove up, those nice gentlemen came out to see what in the world was wrong. They were so caring and nice and didnt say anything to make me feel stupid when the gentleman that first asked me what was wrong put gas in the mower and started it. And it didnt smoke. I was in shock. I couldnt believe it. Then after they cut it off and had a small chuckle at my expense, I told them I had learned the day before you have to have oil in the mower (Jeff asked me if it had oil and I told him I didnt know you had to have oil in them) they advised me that when I turned it over to get the shoelace off I probably got oil on the motor. Thereby making the smoke. But when the oil cooled off and dried up then I could have cut again with no problem. The men there are very nice. Very kind. And they just smiled when I told them I wasnt having a blonde day, I was just having a Deb day.
Whats so sad, I think they understood. But at least I made someone smile.
Did I do it when you read this blog? Hope so, cause its sad but this is true. My life is a funny country song or a sad comedy, whichever way you look at it, but its my life.
Just laugh at me or with me, but just be happy whenever you see me. I will be when I see you.
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I'm Telling You Its Hard to Be Nice
by DebraThomas
Apr 10, 2012
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I try to get along with everybody. To a certain extent. But lately it seems like I am getting a short end of the stick so to speak when it comes to customer service. Or just people being polite in general.
All of my life I was taught to be nice and treat others like you would have them treat you. As a matter of fact, I think its a Golden Rule to Do Unto Others.......and also there is a pretty good BarBQ place by that name and they have the whole statement on their shirts which I think is pretty neat.
So I do that very thing. I treat others the way I want to be treated. Or at least I have in the past. It may be coming to a screeching halt though, and soon.
It takes a good bit to get me to the point of being mad, but once it does, its not a pretty sight. You really dont want to be within ear shot of me when I let go. And for that I am sorry. Really, I know I shouldnt but sometimes bad words come out and I feel terrible afterwards.
But I havent said any bad words, YET.
I have written on facebook about the trip to McDonalds last week when the girl (I refuse to call her a lady at this point) YELLED at me (her manager was beside her) and then had the gumption to tell me I had ORDERED THE WRONG THING. (Still havent figured that one out.)
Then I went to the grocery store and told the clerk I wanted to get some strawberries. The man told me here are some, and I pointed out, yes but those are molded. He said, well take them off and use the rest. Do I get a discount? No. Ok, then I dont want them, and was told well then you dont want strawberries.
Went to a restaurant that is now out of business with my future husband and another couple.
We had a lovely dinner and I wanted dessert. I asked the waitress what type pie they had and
(I swear these are her words...)we've got lemon, apple and one piece of chocolate and you dont need it. (No I didnt get out of the booth and WHOOP her, but I wanted to....I was held back).
And now its come to clothing. I have been trying to find "church clothes" for quite some time now. I have been to several stores in the county, and while I have closets full of clothes that I love, they fit about 20 pounds ago. Still love the clothes just cant get them to fasten. So the hunt is on for new clothes.
The ones I can find wont reach around my right leg much less cover anything top or bottom and if the size is right, there is not enough material there to suit me. I dont like to show everything and I dont want to see everything that everyone else has either. And when it comes to shorts, well, this old gal AINT going to be buying something called Bootie shorts. Dont know what they are but dont want any either.
Which made me turn to ebay. I have purchased all sorts of things from ebay in the past and had lots of fun looking at the brands and prices of what I deem good prices and durable clothing. So I saw a sweater I liked, would do to wear during the summer months in an air conditoned place, great price, so I bought it. Paid for it via paypal. Was very happy with my purchase.
Came in this evenign and turned on the computer to see that the seller had refunded my money because SHE had put the wrong amount on the item and she wanted to sell it for 10 times the price I paid. So she took it upon herself to refund my money.
Normally that wouldnt bother me, but I wrote my note to her and explained I saw the item, bought the item and want the item sent to me at the price I paid for it and if this were a store I would have to get it at the ad price.
She wrote back and said no, stores make retractions all the time and she wouldnt sell me the sweater again at the price I already paid.
So, I write back and say ok, I dont want to go through ebay and paypal rules but if I have to contact them, then I will.
She takes attitude with me and tells me to do what I have to do. So I am. I'm telling.
Like a kid that doesnt get their way, I'm telling.
I'm telling on her; the waitress; the guy that FORGOT to plug my air conditioner back up today at the garage when he was trying to figure out why the radio didnt work; the girl at McDonalds and just about anybody else I can think of.
I try to be nice. I really do.
In reviewing my yearbooks (annuals) from high school, it states more than once, STAY SWEET;
STAY THE WAY YOU ARE AND YOU WILL GO FAR; TO ONE OF THE SWEETEST GIRLS I KNOW; and so on.
Well, if folks in the CUSTOMER SERVICE type of work dont start being nicer to me, then I'm going to start telling on them.
Wonder where it would get me? Probably not far. I doubt the mean folks read my blogs.
But you wonderful, nice folks that do, tell them to be nice to me, because I'm trying to remain sweet and nice. I can do that easier than I can become a young girl again.
Thanks nice people. Saw a T shirt one time that said MEAN PEOPLE SUCK.
I agree.
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A Teachable Racial Moment: Why Do Black Folks Stick Together?
Years ago, in graduate school, I was one of only three African Americans in my Master of Fine Arts creative writing program. That was in the fall; in the spring, one of us dropped out. And then there were two.
I remember sitting in my graduate poetry workshops surrounded by folks who didn't look like me. Whenever the issue of "race"—meaning Black people—came up, my White peers would turn to me and ask my opinion. Sometimes, I knew. Sometimes, I didn't know. But what always sort of blew my mind is that my peers assumed that I could speak for all Black folks. When I, like, couldn't. But I would try anyway because I felt it was my responsibility to do so.
This is a common story among most Black folks who have integrated–let's face it– mostly White spaces in educational, professional, and now with legalized interracial marriage, familial institutions. But honestly, it doesn't get any easier for any of us to speak for the African American "race."
Most folks in America who are of African descent came to this country as a result of the Middle Passage, the horrific, transatlantic journey withstood by Africans who were kidnapped into slavery. There are, of course, some Black folks on this country who are not descended from slaves, what might be called African-African Americans, folks who emigrated from the continent of Africa after slavery was outlawed in the USA, but those folks are in a very small minority in Black America.
And so, the common heritage that most Black folks in this country share leads to what is called "linked fate" among African Americans, a term explored in Michael C. Dawson's book, Behind the Mule: Race and Class in African American Politics. Linked fate means that, for many African Americans, what happens to a Black individual is felt by many in the "racial" group, whether that event is joyous or tragic.
This does not mean that others individuals who aren't Black can't feel joy or sorrow at these events, but it does mean that Black folks feel particular emotions, as if the event impacted our own families. Linked fate means that I consider forty million people to be literal brothers and sisters.
Gwendolyn Brooks becoming the first African American to win the Pulitzer Prize was joyous. Thurgood Marshall's appointment as the first Black Supreme Court Justice was joyous. Barack Obama's winning the Presidency (and hopefully you don't need a link for that)? The heavens opened up and angels sang an aria, it was just that wonderful, okay?
And by the same token, the lynching of Emmett Till in Mississippi was especially horrible for Black people, as was Martin Luther King, Junior's assassination. And most recently, last month's killing of Trayvon Martin, a young Black boy in Florida, has rubbed against Black linked fate, and reopened many traumatic wounds that really never healed.
Again, that does not mean that other people cannot be upset about tragedies that just happen—or don't just happen—to involve Black people. There were many White Americans who wore hoodies this past week to protest the killing of Trayvon Martin, but just as many who admitted that pictures of their wearing hoodies does not rub against the same unfortunate racial stereotypes as pictures of Black males in similar garb.
Many White readers of my blog notice I use the terms "we" and "us" and "my community" when referring to African Americans. Those terms are also used by White supremacists, too, and I think that, frankly, it confuses White folks that I'm supposed to be about love and humanity and White supremacists are, like, not. Well, strangely enough, some of the same American history that was caused by White supremacy—a hate-filled, racist impulse–led to Black linked fate—a survival instinct. When you oppress people together, they try to withstand that oppression together.
But a funny thing happened on the (metaphysical) road to the City of Linked Fate. Some Black folks actually don't feel linked up with other Black people. They are completely unconnected or at least partially. I am one of those partially unlinked folks who still loves the Black community. For example, while I voted for President Obama—and will do so again in November, believe that—I don't always agree with him. And I don't feel as if I must surrender my Black Passport just because Obama gets on my nerves sometimes and I decide to say so publicly.
Also, unlike many Black folks, I do not like commercial Hip Hop and I don't think it's a profound African American cultural production. (Independent Hip Hop is different, in my opinion.) I think it's crappy, repetitive, and uninspired, I'm extremely bored by it, and I don't like the messages of woman-hatred and LBGTQ-hatred that it propagates. And frankly, I think it attempts to take the healthiness out of Black sexual expression (of whatever kind) as well.
Those are just a couple of the ways I'm not linked to a supposedly monolithic Black community, and if you go back and read some of my other posts from the last two and a half years, you'll find other breaks in the chain, too. I'm a complicated Sister, liberal sometimes and conservative other times.
Sidebar: And there are many Black folks who are complicated in their own ways, too. But despite that, we are Stone-Cold American Citizens and we have shown our loyalty to this country repeatedly, beginning with Crispus Attucks' documented sacrifice. He was the first person to die in the Boston Massacre in 1770, which just had its two hundred and thirty-ninth anniversary this March.
But what I am not is "a good Black friend," one of those anonymous, unnamed sources that some politically conservative White folks are fond of trotting out these days when they want to say something mean or heartless or rude about Black folks and they want to get some back-up for it. Any time that I read or hear a comment that starts with "my Black friend says" or "I have a Black friend who disagrees with you," I know my feelings are about to be hurt or that I am about to be angered.
Whether or not I'm partially unlinked, I've got my own back-up, because I know there are going to be at least ten folks who agree with me in someone's Black community. But I'm guessing that there are at least ten conservative White folks agreeing with another conservative White commenter, too, whatever side he or she takes. So why the need for the anonymous "Black friend"?
Why not simply say, "This is how I feel, and plenty White people feel the same way"? It can't be any worse than claiming the same one Black "friend" all the time. Seriously, Sugar, please bribe some more colored people to talk to you so you can actually fill a room once in a while, okay? I know it gets lonely sometimes.
And while you're at it, why not go back and read some American history going all the way back to 1619? (And that's just on my African side; you really don't want me to go all the way back with my Cherokee folk.) Why not understand that there's a reason I have back-up in the first place?
When someone pushes other somebodies around—steals their bodies, rapes them, dumps them in the bottom of the ocean, sells them, sells their children, and oh, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera—that's a series of traumatic events that creates back-up. These kinds of events connected Black people. They joined them together and their descendants together.
That's why my family reunion is so big. We call it Juneteenth, don't you know.
But now, if I ever get my forty acres that General Sherman promised, I might actually give up my very last remnants of linked fate and become somebody's named "good Black friend" instead of just an anonymous one. But give me my land first. Then we'll work the rest on out.
Estellita Bellerand permalinkMarch 25, 2012 6:36 pm
I have now come to appreciate your style writing and topics. I came upon your work by referral and I am so pleased I did. Your work is well written, insightful and factual.
Thank you.
With Kind Regards,
Barbara Soloski Albin permalinkMarch 25, 2012 8:12 pm
Well I consider myself your friend, obviously not your only white friend, but a fb friend. Because I am Jewish, I don't know everything about Judaism, not at all, I will try to answer your question, but I may fail. PS I don't like every Jewish person I meet!
Now that I got that out, my husband's family escaped Germany during the years before WWII, they are the remainining (although dead now) Holocaust survivors in both our families. Germany, with as much difficulty as they could, allowed people to file claims when the wall came down. Of course the proof, in detail, needed was to come from us,(attorney needed) oh yes, Herbert's family ran for there lives with very little. Took us about 20 years to settle with the German government, no the Russians did not return anything, the Germans found many excuses not to return many pieces of property, and don't ever ask me to talk with a Nazi as I don't feel one bit better for receiving what was rightfully my father-in-law's anyway. Actually my in-laws were not German, they were from Latvia (had lived for 20 years in Germany before the war), hence the name Albin, and my family was from Poland, there was no one left alive in Poland.
Let me tell you, even when you get the 40 acres and the mule, you are still going to be bitter. There are some things that money can't buy. Your posts, Miss Honoree, are always so good, please keep them coming, they enrich my life and help me to try and understand yours. I am not perfect, but I am trying.
Barbara Soloski Albin permalinkMarch 25, 2012 8:13 pm
Yikes should have done a better job of editing. I am so glad Miss Honoree you are not my professor, you would fail me. Although I would bring you nice bookmarks, etc. xo B
March 25, 2012 8:26 pm
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March 26, 2012 12:06 pm
You never fail to educate me and to move me.
denise Coles permalinkMarch 26, 2012 2:39 pm
Whoever wrote this, my accolades to you. Wow! I think people, whites, blacks, and everyone in between forget that this SLAVERY debacle went on for over 400 years. While I don't believe every white person had slaves, I do believe they should have done something about the ones that did. They had 400 years in which to do so. Granted there were underground railroads, safe houses, etc. etc. etc., but could we have had a congress that thought this was okay for four hundred years!!!!??? Shouldn't it have not lasted THAT long?
Furthermore, if something is done for 400 years, to reverse it probably would take another 400 years of extra special treatment—to undo the psychological effect slavery had on a whole race of people (a new race created here through rape and child abuse from the white master). Our roots were snatched away from us–forever gone (we did not have ocean liners, jet planes back then)—the life we were stolen into consisted of cleaning a white man's outhouse, his wife's bloody menstrual underwear, vomit and snots from other children…. I don't want to even begin in on the painful picking of cotten, chopping of wood, pulling mules along, etc. etc. etc.
Lilly permalinkSeptember 26, 2012 3:42 am
They came as slaves; vast human cargo transported on tall British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children. Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. Slave owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. They were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.
You would think this was about the African slave trade, in fact it is about the Irish Slave trade.
The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves. Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white. From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland's population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain's solution was to auction them off as well.
During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.
Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They'll come up with terms like "Indentured Servants" to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle.
As an example, the African slave trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African slaves, not tainted with the stain of the hated Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.
African slaves were very expensive during the late 1600s (50 Sterling). Irish slaves came cheap (no more than 5 Sterling). If a planter whipped or branded or beat an Irish slave to death, it was never a crime. A death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than killing a more expensive African. The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the master's free workforce. Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain slaves of her master. Thus, Irish moms, even with this new found emancipation, would seldom abandon their kids and would remain in servitude.
In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women (in many cases, girls as young as 12) to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls with African men to produce slaves with a distinct complexion. These new "mulatto" slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves. This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed "forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale." In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large slave transport company.
England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish slaves for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish Rebellion, thousands of Irish slaves were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 slaves into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.
There is little question that the Irish experienced the horrors of slavery as much (if not more in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is, also, very little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry. In 1839, Britain finally decided on it's own to end it's participation in Satan's highway to hell and stopped transporting slaves. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded THIS chapter of nightmarish Irish misery.
The White people you refer to in respect of the slave trade include, Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, British, Danish and French, there 50 countries in Europe that is a total 12% that engaged in the slave trade.
The Black people, you fail to mention engaged in the slave trade are by nations, Senegal, Gambia, Guinea, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Cote D'Ivoire, Ghana, Togo, Benin, Nigeria, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea, Senegambia, DRC, Angola, Mozambique, Madagascar, Angola and Uganda, there are 57 countries in Africa that is a total of 33% that engaged in the slave trade.
The Irish of North America went through the same rubbish as the Blacks of the North, who is repatriating them? It really is time to stop thinking the white people owe you something and start being the self sufficient community you claim to be. I as a white Irish woman owe you nothing, those of Irish origin make up 12% of the population of America, this does not include those Scots-Irish category who are not ethnically Irish but English/Scot planters brought to Ireland during Cromwellian adventures in Ireland, and removed by force by the Irish following rebellion. This 12% owe you nothing either, nor do the Jews, Germans, Polish, Russians and the list goes on.
Now there is a history lesson most here wont want to read, its clearly does not fit with the victimized and 'Whites owe us' mentality of Black America.
Jennifer Lane permalinkMarch 28, 2012 1:01 am
"-—"Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe unto that man by whom the offence cometh!" If we shall suppose that American Slavery is one of those offences which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war, as the woe due to those by whom the offence came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a Living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope—fervently do we pray—that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bond-man's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether."
With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds; to care for him who shall have born the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan—to do all which may achieve and cherish a just, and a lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations." Abraham Lincoln, The Second Inaugural, March 4, 1865
Lonnie guy permalinkFebruary 14, 2013 10:32 am
The Irish did suffer but you left out one part . You see the irish were not considered white back then as they are today. The irish became white when they joined in with the eutopeans to discriminate on us. You see the irish never overcame racism . The irish disrespected their members who suffered by giving up their culture to be white. You cant compare us to them


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