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Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2013
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Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2013
The 2011 Aussie Aussie Aussie thread has been going for a coupla years now, so probably time to start a new one.
The old thread is here - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=34155
Last edited by Vault-emort on Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Starting the thread off with a bit of topical stuff:
Nathan Deakes looks like he's added to the Olympic Team at 50k Walk.
Hunter Track Classic this Saturday - start lists are here: http://www.athletics.com.au/home/compet ... /startlist
- Women's 400m is the most interesting sprint event.
- 1500m fields for both sexes look pretty good.
- Dani and Benn in the disc.
- Josh Ross has his first serious 100m of his comeback.
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The Aussie season is up and running with only a month until the Olympic trials in Melbourne. This weekend's Perth meeting has a number of decent fields with Women's Discus, Men's LJ and Men's 400 probably the strongest in terms of depth.
In other events, Sally Pearson will make her 2012 hurdles debut while Ryan Gregson will race Craig Mottram in the 1500. A dozen US athletes and a handful of other internationals provide some competition for the Aussies with conditions in Perth often favouring sprinters, horizontal jumpers and discus/javelin throwers.
Unfortunately a still underdone Steve Hooker has withdrawn, while local javelin star Kim Mickle and sprinter Jody Henry are also missing. In their absence, Ben Offereins will seek to be the local hero; he runs in a strong 400m field featuring American Greg Nixon and a few of Australia's best including national champ Steve Solomon, former Commonwealth Games champ John Steffensen and former WSG Champ Sean Wroe.
Alana Boyd, now living in Perth, could also challenge Kym Howe's national record and outdoor best.
Fields include:
100 Pearson Breen
200 Breen van Veenendaal Brennan
400 Steinert Baker USA Sargant Cuddihy IRL
800 Manou Hetherington Noack Buckman Smit NZL
1H Pearson Ali USA Miller NZL Wheatley
4H Boden Spence USA Harding GBR
PV Boyd Parnov Parnov
LJ Perkins Stratton Jaensch
DIS Samuals Brown USA Thurmond USA Ackman USA
JAV Mitchell Patterson USA
100 Rouge-Serret Davies Hough Ross
200 Rouge-Serret Davies Hough
400 Offereins Nixon USA Solomon Wroe Steffensen
15 Gregson Mottram
4H Garrett USA Gaymon USA Cole Boino PNG Brandwood GBR
PV Hollis USA Boyd Pocklington
HJ Zamel-Paez Armet Lodge
LJ Lapierre Stevens Crowther
TJ Frayne Jones Oke NGR
DIS Harradine Winger USA
JAV Robinson Peacock Outzen
Full entry lists: http://www.athletics.com.au/home/compet ... ntry_lists
First event scheduled for 1830 Perth time on 11 February. Check time differences here: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
Live webcast of the meet: http://www.bigpondsport.com/Home/Summer ... fault.aspx
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Here's why Steve Hooker won't be competing. A lack of confidence has caused him to pull out of all domestic meets - including the Olympic trials...
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/pole-vau ... 1rkcq.html
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This probably warrants its own discussion, but Hooker is not the first top level vaulter to lose his nerve. This sounds awfully close to what happened with Tommy Skipper 4-5 years ago. He just stopped being able to plant the pole.
Good luck to him. That seems to be awfully difficult to come back from.
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My best to Steve but here is something to think about.
Isn't it great that the A.A. are looking after him and helping him in everyway they can to get him back to top shape. I personally I think it is fantastic and is the way it should be done.
Now lets look at our USATF and how they would work with our Champion's given the same situations.
Are you looking. I am too, however I see nothing. Oh wait that is the same thing they do.
NOTHING How sad.
Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012
I think something like this happened early in Hooker's career too, though it may not have been as severe and it certainly wasn't as public. Watching him in Daegu was like watching a completely different athlete to the one who won in Beijing, Berlin, Melbourne, etc etc - he just looked like somebody who wanted to be somewhere else. It was heart-wrenching. Hopefully he can bounce back soon - he's such a great athlete and one of the genuine good guys of the sport.
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I agree. Its looks more head than anything else. Doesn't seem like he wants to compete if he can't win. And if he thinks he can win, he does win.
Seems like its easier to quit smoking.
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Stream is working well from link above. Henry Frayne has twice beaten his PB in the TJ and leads with 17.14
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The stream is working so well at my laptop that I have been drawing stick figures and then smudging them so that I can't quite see what I've just drawn. Roll on the NBN......
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Liver results seem randomly delayed. Event 22, W200 is up but Event 4, MDT with 3 competitors is not, along with Event 16, the W400H, although Event 17 onwards is, so it's not just the usual field events that get updated 3 hours after the last event is finished.....
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really? I'm using a wireless USB and haven't had a millisecond of buffering throughout. Best livestream I've ever seen. The direction and some of the commentary, however....
Anyway congrats to Frayne, Alana Boyd and Lauren Boden (as well as Sally) for the performances of the night. Most results a bit disappointing though..
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In case you're after the M DIS results, 65.46m won it for Winger. 63.40 for Harradine.
Boden won in 55.61 about 3.2 seconds ahead of second (Pekin from memory).
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Full results - Perth Feb 11:
Women 100 Metre
(w: 0.4) 1, Pearson, Sally, QAS, 11.28A. 2, Breen, Melissa, ACTAS, 11.53. 3,
Wisil, Toea, PNG, 11.76. 4, van Veenendaal, Charlotte, VIC, 11.84. 5, Butler,
Hayley, NSW, 11.85. 6, Wrench-Doody, Alicia, SA, 11.96. 7, Whaler, Laura,
NSWIS, 12.04. 8, Attenborough, Crystal, NTIS, 12.07. 9, Wearne, Christine,
Women 200 Metre
(w: -0.5) 1, Breen, Melissa, ACTAS, 23.76. 2, Butler, Hayley, NSW, 23.80. 3,
Wisil, Toea, PNG, 24.00. 4, Brennan, Monica, VIC, 24.03. 5, van Veenendaal,
Charlotte, VIC, 24.30. 6, Whaler, Laura, NSWIS, 24.51. 7, Wrench-Doody,
Alicia, SA, 24.54.
Women 400 Metre
1, Cuddihy, Joanne, IRL, 52.08. 2, Steinert, Pirrenee, NSWIS, 52.74. 3,
Pincott, Caitlin, QLD, 52.78. 4, Baker, Keshia, USA, 53.00. 5, Sargent,
Caitlin, QLD, 53.48. 6, Steinert, Sheena, NSW, 54.25. 7, Starr, Jaimee-Lee,
NSW, 55.44. 8, Hogan, Alysse, WA, 57.14.
Women 800 Metre
1, Manou, Tamsyn, VIC, 2:03.20. 2, Curnow, Eliza, VIC, 2:04.28. 3,
Katsanevakis, Katherine, VIC, 2:05.22. 4, Noack, Holly, WA, 2:05.49. 5,
Toemoe, Sianne, NSWIS, 2:05.69. 6, Smit, Angela, NZL, 2:05.89. 7, Hollick,
Monique, WA, 2:07.20. 8, McGinnity, Kelly, WA, 2:08.93. --, Pincott, Caitlin,
Women 100 Metre Hurdles
(w: 0.4) 1, Pearson, Sally, QAS, 12.86A. 2, Ali, Nia, USA, 13.39. 3, Miller,
Andrea, NZL, 13.48. 4, Wheatley, Megan, WA, 13.95. 5, McCann, Shannon, WA,
13.96. 6, Beahan, Brianna, WA, 14.04. 7, Taddeo, Abbie, NSW, 14.35. 8,
Scwhass, Poppy, WA, 14.45.
Women 400 Metre Hurdles
1, Boden, Lauren, AIS, 55.61M. 2, Pekin, Lyndsay, WA, 58.44. 3, Carli, Sarah, < br /> NSW, 59.10. 4, Spence, Christine, USA, 59.18. 5, Consedine, Tessa, VIC, 59.66.
6, Harding, Faye, GBR, 60.03. 7, Ryan, Kate, VIC, 61.01. 8, Solin, Ella, WA,
Women Pole Vault
1, Boyd, Alana, WAIS, 4.66m (Aust outdoor best). 2, Parnov, Vicky, WAIS, 4.35m. 3, Parnov,
Elizabeth, WAIS, 4.25m. 4, McCathrion, Paris, VIS, 3.90m. 4, Lucock,
Charmaine, QAS, 3.90m. 4, Marchant, Rebecca, VIC, 3.90m.
Women Long Jump
1, Perkins, Kerrie, ACT, 6.45m, w:0.8. 2, Stratton, Brooke, VIS, 6.43m,
w:+0.0. 3, Jaensch, Chelsea, SA, 6.19m, w:1.4. 4, Perry, Larissa, WA, 6.07m,
w:1.4. 5, Knight, Emma, VIC, 5.91m, w:1.8.
Women Discus
1, Trafton-Brown, Stephanie, USA, 61.71m. 2, Thurmond, Aretha, USA, 60.96m. 3,
Samuels, Dani, NSWIS, 60.74m. 4, Mulhall, Kim, VIS, 54.00m. 5, Ackman, Sara,
USA, 51.05m. 6, Gollshewsky, Taryn, QAS, 49.43m.
Wom en Javelin
1, Patterson, Kara, USA, 59.18m. 2, Mitchell, Kathryn, VIC, 54.15m. 3,
Cilione, Monique, VIS, 46.99m. 4, Gallagher, Jessica, VIS, 33.48m.
Men 100 Metre B Race .
(w: -0.3) 1, McCabe, Andrew, QLD, 10.59. 2, Stubbs, Aaron, QLD, 10.63. 3,
Gander, Liam, NSW, 10.70. 4, Donovan, Hugh, QLD, 10.73. 5, Emsavana, Andrew,
WA, 10.92. 6, Simpson, Nick, WA, 11.19. --, Chuot, Mangar, WA, DNF.
Men 100 Metre
(w: 0.7) 1, Alozie, Anthony, NSWIS, 10.37. 2, Ntiamoah, Isaac, NSW, 10.43. 3,
Hough, Nicholas, NSWIS, 10.47. 3, Williams-Swain, Mitchell, QLD, 10.47. 5,
Fakiye, Patrick, NSWIS, 10.50. 6, Leathart, Tim, NSW, 10.52. 7, Rouge-Serret,
Aaron, VIS, 10.54. 8, Hammond, Jake, NSWIS, 10.56. --, Davies, Matt, QLD, DQ.
Men 200 Metre
(w: 1.1) 1, Hough, Nicholas, NSWIS, 20.79M. 2, McCabe, Andrew, QLD, 20.82M. 3,
Davies, Matt, QLD, 20.90. 4, Leathart, Tim, NSW, 21.05. 5, Ntiamoah, Isaac,
NSW, 21.26. 6, Hammond, Jake, NSWIS, 21.33. 7, Gander, Liam, NSW, 21.38. 8,
Donovan, Hugh, QLD, 21.43.
Men 400 Metre
1, Steffensen, John, NSWIS, 46.11. 2, Solomon, Steven, NSWIS, 46.26. 3,
Offereins, Ben, WAIS, 46.49. 4, Nixon, Greg, USA, 46.91. 5, Moore, Kevin,
NSWIS, 46.99. 6, Carew, Alexander, VIC, 47.34. 7, Wroe, Sean, VIS, 47.67. 8,
Boden, James, WA, 49.06.
Men 1500 Metre
1, Rowe, Brenton, AUT, 3:39.11M. 2, Williamz, Jordan, VIS, 3:39.91. 3,
McCormick, Nick, GBR, 3:41.54. 4, Robinson, Brett, ACT, 3:41.95. 5, See, Marc,
WA, 3:43.09. 6, Blicavs, Mark, VIC, 3:43.81. 7, Vernon, Andy, GBR, 3:46.77. 8,
Robinson, Paul, IRL, 3:48.87. 9, Hartley, Chris, SA, 3:54.15. 10, Miller,
Chartt, WA, 3:55.78. 11, Tamblin, Scott, WA, 3:58.19. 12, Tedesco, Joshua, WA,
4:03.19. --, Barnard, Daniel, WA, DNF.
Men 110 Metre Hurdles
(w: 1.4) 1, Eyears, Greg, NSW, 14.47. 2, Khongbut, Ben, VIC, 14.53. 3, Tysoe,
Mitchell, NSW, 14.60.
Men 400 Metre Hurdles
1, Gaymon, Justin, USA, 50.21. 2, Cole, Brendon, ACT, 50.60. 3, Boino, Mowan,
PNG, 51.27. 4, Garrett, LaBronze, USA, 51.53. 5, Roff, James, NSW, 53.22. 6,
Wurm, Oliver, ACT, 55.36. 7, Fuller, Nick, NSW, 55.51. --, Brandwood, Danny,
Men Pole Vault
1, Hollis, Mark, USA, 5.35m. 2, Pocklington, Joel, VIC, 5.15m. 3, Boyd, Matt,
QLD, 5.00m. 4, Cross, Brodie, VIC, 4.85m. 4, Filshie, James, VIC, 4.85m. 6,
Sherry, Cam, QLD, 4.70m.
Men Long Jump
1, Lapierre, Fabrice, NSWIS, 7.81m, w:1.4. 2, Fletcher, Shaun, QLD, 7.39m,
w:2.3. 3, Crowe, Scott, VIC, 7.28m, w:0.1. 4, Stevens, Robert, VIC, 7.07m,
w:0.9. 5, Andrews, Jeremy, WA, 7.06m, w:2.6. 6, Rabone, Adam, VIC, 6.58m,
Men Triple Jump
1, Frayne, Henry, QAS, 17.14m, w:2.5. (and 17.09 legal - PB, =#3 all time Aussie) 2, Oke, Tosen, NGR, 16.15m, w:0.1. 3,
Rabone, Adam, VIC, 15.94m, w:1.7. 4, Lumley, Joshua, NSW, 15.75m, w:+0.0.
Men Discus
1, Winger, Russell, USA, 65.46mA. 2, Harradine, Benn, VIS, 63.40m. 3, Hicks,
Graham, VIC, 51.41m.
Men Javelin
1, Peacock, Hamish, TIS, 78.10m. 2, Outzen, Matthew, NSWIS, 77.17m. 3, White,
William, QLD, 73.35m. 4, Cann, Luke, VIS, 72.50m. 5, Robinson, Josh, QLD,
71.89m. 6, Castle, Brett, VIC, 71.62m. 7, Andria, luanga, VIC, 67.51m. 8,
Hogan, Cruz, WA, 62.12m.
Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012
Worked well on the third try, just in time to see Alana's last vault from an obviously cheap, multi-purpose camera location. Flakiness must have been local issues. Like I said, roll on NBN.
Glad I didn't spend the coin to head overland - there's certainly some real sadness in AS's post. I hope to see better (live) at the trials in a few weeks but the chances seem as high as a redhead's vault....
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Sydney meet coming up tomorrow night (about 34 hours away).
Live webcast again at: http://www.bigpondsport.com/Home/Summer ... fault.aspx
Full entry list: http://www.athletics.com.au/home/compet ... entry_list
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Sally Pearson runs a ridiculously long season.
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She does? Last year weren't the comments that she ran a short (European) season?
What if she was a European or US hurdler currently running 60s and 60Hs and aiming at the WIC as well as the OG?
Anyway, her programme seems to be working out just fine. Since 2007 she has only failed to achieve her major goal during one season (2009 injury).
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Oh, if she doesn't win Gold at the Olympics, that's perhaps the biggest upset in my mind, but her outdoor season started really early. It doesn't seem to hurt her.
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Results from tonight include:
400 Steffensen 45.61 Rudisha KEN 45.82
800 Kiprop KEN 1-45.91 Riseley 1-46.55
1500 Torrence USA 3-35.66 Birmingham 3-35.74
400H Gaymon USA 49.77 Cole 50.02
SC Kipchoge KEN 8-19.14 Abdi 8-22.01
LJ Frayne 8.27 (+1.4 ) Lapierre 8.02 (+1.2)
SP/DIS Winger USA 20. 51/62.98
200 Pearson 23.06 (-1.8)
400 Cuddihy IRL 51.86 Baker USA 52.47
800 Manou 2-01.53
1500 Buckman 4-09.89
100H Pearson 12.66 (+1.5)
400H Boden 55.45
PV Boyd 4.60 Vicki Parnov 4.30 (Liz Parnov 4.50 NJR last night in Perth)
LJ Perkins 6.58 (0.0)
SP Vili NZL 20.67
DIS Brown-Trafton USA 63.23 Samuels 60.68 Thurmond USA 60.12
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She had a good double tonight and a fast time in the 100H though she smacked the last hurdle.
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I couldn't make the distance to Sydney, so had to rely on the inconsistent Telstra online coverage and the reliably unlive for field events AA website. Still, as usual, I have an opinion on things I neither saw, nor know much about...
Steffensen looks like he is heading back to his top form and is likely to get an A qualifier in the Australian season. Rudisha shames the rest of the Australian one-lappers.
Fantastic time for Riseley if he did run that time off a 130km training week. Just keep that differential to WC Kiprop in the northern season and all will be well.
Birmingham runs just slightly slower than his Brussels PB of 3:35.50 from 2010, so looks like he will be the new Mottram if he stays uninjured.[edit to add: the only Australian that seemed to have any idea was GeeTee who predicted a 3:35.91 for Collis on runnerstribe. If only he could manage to post his infinite predictions here as well ]
Cole was on course for a sub-50 until he slightly stuffed up 9 and then almost came to a complete stop on 10.
If Kipchoge was paid to pacemake, he was a failure out in front by 50m+ after 400m. Abdi still ran well enough to make an A and beat his own meet record of 8:22.98.
Frayne becomes only the second Australian to go 8m/17m after Phil May (8.04/17.02A) in '70 and Mexico OG and LaPierre starts to show some better form in the Oz season (at least compared to last season).
That's a pretty good one day(3 hour!) double for somebody on their off season. [edit to add:John Godina managed a single-day double of 21.95m/67.06 on 9 June 2001 on Palo Alto.] Aussie Ben Harradine did not compet in the discus due to a knee injury. No detail from the commentary (grrrr) so I assume that it is the same problem that has affected him since last year.
Only 4 hundredths off her PB of 23.02 (-0.4) set in 2009 so easily her best run of all time.
The 4x400 looks like a real winner....
Tamsyn replays every year since 1997 and makes all the competition look mediocre. No wonder I love her.....as an athlete.
The 1500 Tamsyn for the next decade. Nuff said.
Well, in heavy training(assumed), no competition, thinking about a later 200m, smashes the last hurdle and still beats her 2009 meet record of 12,81 and runs her fastest Australian season hurdles ever, including her 12.81 (-1.1) last year on her way to her WC 12.28.
Boden sneaks under the A qualifier even though her last few hurdles were sub-optimal. Looks like she is well on her way to a mid-54 later in the year. Well done to her and coach Matt Beckenham.
Boyd has apparently transferred her yips to ginger boy and is now consistent over 4.60 in her last 3 comps. The Parnovs seem likely to both be over the A qualifier of 4.50 by the end of the season. Are there any other family PV combos of similar standard?
At 33, Kerrie seems to be back at her best and is looking capable of beating her 2006 PB of 6.66 and hitting the A qualifier of 6.75. The names at the top of the Oz all-time list all seem...
Valerie beats her meet best of 20.57 from 2010 and falls agonisigingly short of the Australian all-comers record of 20.69m set by world record holder Natalya Lisovskaya in 1985.
Samuels is slowly picking up distance but the lack of coverage prevents me from commenting on whether there is hope or depression to arise from this...
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ppl do that on the interwebs?
Solid run, though his post-race interview was rather subdued for the IJWT icon.. Still, he did enough to have at least one section of the crowd booing his comments..
I quite like Torrence, but the little b@$+@rd cost me a new pair of shoes and a singlet!
And a very welcome return to the 400H by Tristan Thomas. Still underdone, but if he has good health he can get the OQ mark by cut-off time.
lol I remember thinking, just after the gun, 'he's not gonna be one of these pacemakers who keeps going, is he?..' His 8-19 <ETA> is (oops) not a PB though
Hank one of very few shining lights so far in 2012 and will join Uncle Bruce in the Olympic lists
Most athletes would be happy with a 12.66 WL in the hurdles, but Sal looked soooo pissed not to have broken 23.
Miss Lewis would have gone sub 2-00 in previous years after good pace and a 600m split which I'm sure was pretty decent, but Mrs Manou just didn't have it in her legs up the straight. The aths scene downunder will not be the same next year.
I'm presuming McKnight and Clarke are injured?
Well of course, there are the Boyds!
Well the MLJ, MSP, MDIS, and WPV were also ignored by the director..and that didn't seem to stop ya!
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SBT boomed her biggie on her first throw. 63m at this time of the year is very good, and she showed some signs technically of having something big later on. Still rather eratic in comps also threw what looked like mid 50s, but there also was a long sector foul looked also like 61 + maybe more. This is an olympic year and she will be a factor.
Dani got better as the comp went on her 60+ looked very good, but does not seem to have same bounce she used to have when around the competition
Sally's 12.66 was very business like, if you did not know the time it could have been a training run, no interview afterwards, straight off the track (missed the 200m as we tried to beat the crush from the stadium next door, failed in that and spent the next 45 minutes in the car park)
Boyd looked physically better than I saw her last (2 years ago) and on one of her 4.70s she was over the bar, and came down on it. Sometimes she penetrates the pit really well and takes it off with her legs going way higher than the bar, but on this one she was a little shallow, and came down on it. She has 4.70 in her, but must get the penetration in the pit just right.
Our seat was exactly opposite the bar, great seats.
I admire the two Parnov girls enormously I just wish they could get more speed (something we all need)
and over on the right Val was having a real party. Opened on around 20.09 then had a couple more at or near 20m (she walked out on something that any other shot putter in the world would love to have around mid high 19s) and threw 20.61 and finally 20.67..
she and Sally were the stars (just like in Dageu)
and Frayne was too far away to comment on, but is someone whose days have come..
Shirvo ran in the celebrity race, which just highlighted how much our sprint corp has fallen
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Frayne becomes only the second Australian to go 8m/17m after Phil May (8.04/17.02A) in '70 and Mexico OG and LaPierre starts to show some better form in the Oz season (at least compared to last season).
Phil May - the 'only' Australian Athlete to hold both a Commonwealth Track and a Commonwealth Field event record at the same time.
Or was it first?
Relay 4 X100 m 39.2, TJ 17.02
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First Aussie male maybe.
Decima Norman (220y & Long Jump 1938)
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Frayne's A qualifier in the LJ shifts the pressure onto Fabrice Lapierre (and R.Crowther) to get to 8.20m+ ASAP.
With Watt preselected, there's no way a B (8.10-8.19m) is going to cut it.
Here's hoping Frayne can get the very demanding TJ A (17.20m) down here in Melbourne.
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Sally was all out, and far from businesslike in any of her races. She goes hard, and the times show it.
Steffensen is progressing as planned. Way too much made of his JOKE in Perth, and his personality is sorely needed as Hooker battles the yips and Sally complains about rolling starts and not breaking 23 in the 200.
Great runs by Tamsyn and Birmingham and Boden!
Overall fun meets to be around, need more venues like these around the States, to get butts in a seats and crowd noise. Looking forward to Melbourne!
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I just hope it doesn't get as messy as women's 400m was in 1992.
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I see the Aussie team for the World Indoors was supposed to be announced around 20 Feb.
Qualified athletes:
Jeff Riseley (800/1500)
Ryan Foster (1500)
Collis Birmingham (3k)
Ben St Lawrence (3k)
Craig Mottram (3k)
Mitch Watt (LJ)
Henry Frayne (LJ/TJ)
Dale Stevenson (SP)
Sally Pearson (60/60H)
Alana Boyd (PV)
Be good to see at least Boyd and Frayne join Sal on the team and get some more experience at top-level.
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Jana pulls out of the trials. Looking to qualify for OG via Nationals (April) and Japan (May).
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6278386991
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Start lists for Melbourne next week are out. The back-straight mob (assuming there still is one at Lakeside...) will enjoy the fields below with PBs (listed) a chance for many:
M 1500m
3-30.46 Asbel Kiprop KEN
3-31.06 Ryan Gregson AUS
3-31.79 Nick Willis NZL
3-32.93 Jeff Riseley AUS
3-34.25 David Torrence USA
3-38.68 Brenton Rowe AUT
3-39.47 Jordy Williamsz AUS
3-39.57 Ryan Foster AUS
3-40.41 Brett Robinson AUS
3-40.50 Paul Robinson IRL
3-41.68 Josh Wright AUS
3-43.81 Mark Blicavs AUS
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12-55.76 Craig Mottram AUS
13-10.08 Ben St Lawrence AUS
13-10.97 Collis Birmingham AUS
13-22.38 Jake Robertson NZL
13-24.11 Ben True USA
13-25.34 Nick McCormack GBR
13-25.63 David McNeill AUS
13-25.82 Brandon Bethke USA
13-27.85 Andy Vernon GBR
13-34.58 Harry Summers AUS
13-40.98 Brett Robinson AUS
13-43.32 Liam Adams AUS
13-54.67 Brenton Rowe AUT
13-57.80 Jackson Elliott AUS
14-23.38 Will Leer USA
Full lists (some errors included) - http://www.athletics.com.au/home/compet ... elbournetc
PS - Michael Frater joins Kim Collins as the big names competing at the Stawell Gift in a few weeks.
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Alana Boyd vaulted a 4.76 AR in Perth last night.
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So what did people think about last night's 7.30 Report 'expose' of AA selection? Didn't think there was anything much in it myself, although a couple of Hollingsworth's answers made me laugh..
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012
I just watched it now - hardly an exemplar of investigative reporting
Anyway, sometimes I agree with Bideau, sometimes I don't but he is right in saying that you should send as many people as you can. What this does is give hope to those athletes that take some time to mature. A few extra years in the sport can make all the difference and there are plenty of Australian medal winners who were not underage superstars.
This obsessive focus on picking winners from U-18 has destroyed the sport by belittling the "club men", the honest toilers who provided a range of performance standards that demonstrated a path from school athlete to club champion to State champion to National champion to Olympic athlete.
If "that old no talent bastard" can do that, youthful arrogance can see and realise that they can do better. Once they achieve that, they can set their sights on the next level and so on. If you only have school standard athletes and hand picked A qualifiers and nothing in between, you will have a hollowed out excuse for a sport - which we have.
Sure there will occasionally be, as Gary Bourne stated, 4 guys chasing three spots in the LJ but this is not down to AA setting high standards, this is a random peak which will be followed by a trough as has happened in all events over time. If the system was causing this, then it would be happening across the board wouldn't it?
In fact, the substantial contribution he makes is due to the very thing I described above - he has always had a range of athletes in his squad and provided them with excellent coaching generating a conveyor belt carrying them all forward to the limit of their genetic potential.
The question is, if Gary or Gus Puopolo went under the proverbial bus tomorrow, would the AA "system" produce an equivalent number of jumpers and throwers in 5 years? I think not.
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Yes, I agree with most of your points.
I wish the reporter asking Hollingsworth questions was wired up with an ear-piece so that others could have directed his questions a bit...
It might have gone something like this:
A) I've been in the position before - where the phone goes after Australia doesn't do well at championships.
Q) Who rings you Eric? What exactly do they say? and Do they ever ring you and ask why we don't have anyone near the qualification standard in <pick an event>?
Q) Why not send a women's four x 100 to the Commonwealth Games?
A) Because they didn't qualify.
Q) Well there aren't actually any qualification standards for Commonwealth relay teams
A) Err well..it's not a development event. The Commonwealth Games is part of the cycle of one of the major championships. You don't use things like the Olympic Games and the World Championship just to develop people.
Q) I wasn't talking about Olympics or WC - I said CG. Don't you think it's significant, Eric, that three of our highest profile track gold medallists (Pearson, Freeman, Lewis) in recent years all started their senior international careers as relay runners?
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Weather trending from very bad to merely mediocre, thus mirroring Australian sprint stocks...
Friday 2 March
Min 16 Max 22
Mostly dry. Chance of any rain: 30%
Rainfall amount: 0 to 1 mm
Cloudy. Isolated showers about but dry for most of the day. Winds east to southeasterly averaging up to 45 km/h becoming easterly up to 30 km/h later in the evening.
Saturday 3 March
Min 16 Max 21
Rain at times. Cloudy. Areas of rain. Winds northeasterly averaging up to 45 km/h.
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Saw the 7:30 piece, clearly something unsaid going on. The criticisms were unexplained, the editing weird, and the story unsubstantiated. It was weird to me, if an athlete is good enough they go, so I missed what th gripe was in that piece.
After 5 weeks of summer in Perth and Sydney, Melbourne reminds me of 2000 Games with this winter weather. Cold, windy, wet. Booooooo! Not how I wanted to end this trip.
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Smoke, you just have to remember that there is nothing between Melbourne and Antarctica, so that wild, cold, polar weather can make its way north without any trouble, even in summer. I'm heading down to Melbourne tomorrow because the weather is better than Canberra (true story!), so I'll buy you a beer if I see you. Just look around the crowd and when you see somebody you just don't like the look of, smack him in the back of the head - that will be me. Guaranteed. Would I lie to you?
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If a man in prison says that he was made "to feel like a woman," this is commonly understood to mean that he was degraded, dehumanized, and sexualized. This association of femininity with punishment has significant implications for the way our society understands not only the sexual abuse of men in prison but also sexual abuse generally. These important implications are usually overlooked, however, because law and society typically regard prison feminization as a problem of gender transposition: that is, as a problem of men being treated like women. In contrast, this Article argues that feminization is punitive for both men and women. It is as unnatural and wrong for women to be degraded, dehumanized, and sexualized under coercive circumstances as it is for men to be. This Article suggests that examining the sexual abuse of men in prisons can help disrupt the persistent and uncritical linking of feminization and women. By reading the sexualized abuse of men in prison as a form of forced feminized performance—a coerced drag—this Article hopes to expose the artificiality and violence of compelled feminization. The proper approach to assessing forced feminization is to focus on its oppressive structure, not on the gender of its victims. When we do so, we can see what all victims along the spectrum of sexual and domestic abuse have in common, and we can form social and legal responses accordingly. The phenomenon of male sexual abuse in prison thus provides a potentially illuminating opportunity to think about the structure and consequences of sexual abuse in general. This is significant not least because social and legal responses to sexual abuse outside of the prison setting—where sexual abuse is generally perpetrated by men against women—are constrained by pernicious gender stereotypes and a massive failure of empathy. Understanding the phenomenon of male prison sexual abuse is thus essential not only for addressing a specific problem in carceral institutions, but also for forcing law and society to consider sexual abuse in a productively counterintuitive way.
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Offers of free services abound on the Internet. But the focus on the price rather than on the cost of free services has led consumers into a position of vulnerability. For example, even though internet users typically exchange personal information for the opportunity to use these purportedly free services, one court has found that users of free services are not consumers for purposes of California consumer protection law. This holding reflects the common misconception that the costs of free online transactions are negligible—when in fact true costs may be quite significant. To elucidate the true costs of these allegedly free services, we apply a transaction cost economics (TCE) approach. Unlike orthodox economic theory, TCE provides a framework for analyzing exchanges in which the price of the product seems to be zero. Under a TCE analysis, we argue that information-intensive companies misuse the term "free" to promote products and services that involve numerous nonpecuniary costs. In so doing, firms generate contractual hazards for consumers, ignore consumer preferences for privacy, and mislead consumers by creating the impression that a given transaction will be free.
While psychological research and behavioral economics may support an outright ban of free offers because of their biasing effects, TCE suggests reforming governance structures to place the business risks associated with free transactions more firmly in the hands of businesses. We suggest alterations to governance structures—such as the Federal Trade Commission's Guide Concerning Use of the Word "Free" (FTC Guide)—to curb the incentives of firms to raise transaction costs for consumers. The FTC Guide provides support for two of the consumer protection measures we propose: first, a requirement that free service providers clearly disclose that such providers seek users' personal information in exchange for those services, and, second, the establishment of a regular price before providers can market a service as free. We further argue that the recognition of users of free services as consumers for purposes of consumer protection law would better align incentives and ensure users access to legal redress against some of the most popular services on the Internet. Lastly, we suggest the adoption of alternative governance structures designed to reduce the cost of transacting by curbing the collection of personal information from consumers of free services and by enhancing the rights of consumers to govern the dispersal of personal information from free online services to third parties.
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One of the hallmarks of our patent system is that it provides a one-size-fits-all reward for innovation. The uniform patent laws offer insufficient incentives to develop some socially valuable inventions, and they offer excessive rewards for other inventions, which imposes an unnecessary tax on consumers and subsequent innovators. If the government could adequately tailor patent awards to account for differences in inventions' need for protection and the likelihood that patents will stifle subsequent innovation, it could spur additional innovation while resolving the current patent crisis. But this type of tailoring is generally thought to be impractical. Although we may know which economic determinants are relevant to a socially optimal patent strength, we lack a reliable way to directly measure and synthesize this information into a usable framework. Absent a principled and administrable system to determine which inventions need more protection than others, the uniform patent system is our best option.
This Article identifies a readily observable, cross-industry indication of optimal patent strength for different technologies—inventions' time-to-market. Some inventions take much longer to develop than others, and there is tremendous variation in the average time-to-market across industries. This Article first shows that there is a strong, positive correlation between the amount of time needed to complete an R&D project and the amount of patent protection (if any) necessary to motivate investment in that R&D project. A longer time-to-market for inventions is associated with higher out-of-pocket R&D costs, greater risk of failure, increased opportunity costs of R&D investments, and diminished value of future revenue streams from the developed invention because of discounting. Moreover, because imitators frequently avoid much of the increased R&D costs and uncertainty associated with a longer time-to-market, lengthier R&D times also usually correspond to a greater vulnerability to free riding. Second, this Article shows that a longer time-to-market is associated with a reduced likelihood of patents stifling subsequent innovation. Inventions with a longer time-to-market usually have longer commercial lifespans (product lifecycles) because the inventions that ultimately replace them in the market also generally take longer to develop. The slower rate of product turnover in these markets reduces the need for patent licensing between early and later innovators and gives companies more time to negotiate licenses when necessary, which diminishes the likelihood that patents granted on earlier inventions will stifle later improvements to those technologies. Similarly, because inventions with a lengthy time-to-market have higher total R&D costs, fields in which inventions typically have a lengthy time-to-market have higher entry costs. Those higher costs diminish the number of entrants in these markets and encourage later innovators to develop inventions that are more differentiated from earlier inventions. The reduced entry rate and greater product differentiation once again decrease the need for patent licensing, thereby lessening the potential harm from patents stifling subsequent innovation.
Since a longer time-to-market is indicative of a greater need for patent protection and a lower risk of patents stifling subsequent innovation, time-to-market is likely a uniquely powerful indicator of the optimal patent strength for different types of inventions. Moreover, because time-to-market is relatively observable, the government can use it to create a framework for a principled and administrable system of tailored patent awards. Such a system would enable the government to strike a better balance between the benefits of promoting innovation with temporary monopoly rights and the social costs of restricting access to inventions.
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The cascading cost of solar photovoltaic technologies over the past five years presents a ripe opportunity to change the way people think about solar energy, and the nascent community solar model offers the vehicle for such change. Community solar offers any electricity ratepayer the opportunity to purchase a small portion—as little as one panel—of an offsite, local solar array in exchange for reductions in the ratepayer's utility bill for the entire life of the solar system. By removing traditional siting and financial barriers to solar ownership, community solar drastically expands access to solar energy to persons of all socioeconomic levels while also conferring a host of ancillary benefits.
Although traditional financial barriers to solar ownership have been effectively eroded, inflexible securities regulations continue to pose a formidable threat to the fledgling community solar model by imposing onerous and expensive registration and information disclosure requirements—essentially creating a minefield of potential liability for community solar developers. Due to the novelty of the community solar model, however, courts have yet to consider whether this arrangement constitutes a "security" within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933. Nonetheless, an analysis of the case law to date quite strongly suggests that community solar interests are, in fact, securities. On the other hand, this Comment posits that the policy underlying securities regulations points in both directions, and therefore the classification of community solar interests as securities is not as airtight as some judges might think.
Notwithstanding this conclusion, the proliferation of community solar is still feasible if such projects can qualify for an exemption from the most onerous of the Securities and Exchange Commission's requirements. This Comment explores four potential exemptions: Rules 504 and 506, the Intrastate Exemption, and the pending crowdfunding exemption. It concludes that, unfortunately, the uniqueness of the community solar model does not lend to easy categorization into any of these exemptions—which mainly target startup companies seeking funding from wealthy investors or from people with a preexisting relationship to the entrepreneur.
In summary, though implemented to protect unsophisticated investors, the practical effect of securities regulations is to exclude altogether those investors from myriad benign investment opportunities. While this tradeoff may be worthwhile in other contexts, the risks and rewards of a community solar project are simple, consistent, and obvious. Thus, while investors would benefit from securities laws' antifraud provisions, the onerous registration and disclosure requirements are unnecessary and in fact detrimental in the community solar context—they largely work to prevent communities from having the opportunity to invest in community solar at all. In light of these tensions, this Comment concludes that the additional layer of antifraud protection triggered by securities classification is probably beneficial for community investors. But only by coupling that securities characterization with an exemption from strict registration requirements can the federal government and states strike the proper balance in protecting community investors while also safeguarding their rights to purchase solar energy.
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The foreclosure crisis left its mark on neighborhoods in countless ways. Remaining residents, those who continue to live in neighborhoods with many foreclosures, suffer unique harms because of adjacent foreclosed homes: depressed property values, higher crime, safety hazards, and reduced city services. In the current aftermath, attention has focused on preventing additional foreclosures and assisting those displaced after losing their homes. Taking a different approach, this Comment highlights the challenges facing remaining residents. It assesses the landscape of legal remedies available to remaining residents and proposes a model approach designed to address the most common challenges facing municipalities across the country. At its core, this Comment advocates for a strong and comprehensive local government response to support the recovery of communities affected by foreclosures.
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This Essay considers how the Fifth Amendment's Self-Incrimination Clause applies to encrypted data and computer passwords. In particular, it focus-es on one aspect of the Fifth Amendment that has been largely ignored: its aim to achieve a fair balance between the state's interest and the individual's. This aim has often guided courts in defining the Self-Incrimination Clause's scope, and it should continue to do so here. With encryption, a fair balance requires permitting the compelled production of passwords or decrypted data in order to give state in-terests, like prosecution, an even chance. Courts should therefore interpret Fifth Amendment doctrine in a manner permitting this compulsion.
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The U.S. Supreme Court announced in Miller v. Alabama, that the mandatory imposition of life in prison without the possibility of parole against juveniles was cruel and unusual punishment in violation of the Eighth Amendment. The million-dollar question was whether it would do any good for the over 2000 juveniles who had previously been so sentenced. The touchstone of Miller's retroactivity hinges on the question of whether the rule it announced is substantive—and therefore retroactive—or procedural.
The quasi-substantive/quasi-procedural nature of the Miller opinion created a conundrum for lower courts, which have split on the retroactivity question, with several additional jurisdictions yet to decide. As detailed in this Essay, the answer to this puzzle comes from an unlikely source: the Court's Sixth Amendment jury-trial jurisprudence, and particularly its June 2013 interpretation of that right in Alleyne v. United States. Though unrelated to both juvenile sentencing and retroactivity, the Alleyne Court determined that where the existence of a fact dictates whether a mandatory minimum applies, the fact acts as an element of the underlying offense. This Essay extrapolates from the Alleyne holding and argues that Miller's requirement that sentencers consider age and its attendant consequences in cases involving juveniles—making age at the time of the offense a fact that triggers whether the mandatory minimum sentence of life without parole applies—converts age to an element of the underlying offense, rendering Miller a substantive rule that must be applied retroactively.
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"The formula (by which the state decides how much of the district funding goes to those other institutions) is totally skewed," Bethel Park Superintendent Nancy Rose said. "It's not the fault of the district and it puts a burden on the taxpayers. We want the formula to ensure the funds are equitably distributed."
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Board member Jim Means said it is important to remember that because those 80 students are not from just one grade level, they are all ages and grade levels, the district can't just eliminate a class. "In essence we end up paying double for that student," he said.
"Cyber schools (which have no physical school buildings to maintain) are getting more money than needed," said Michael Brungo, district solicitor.
"Finances are just some of the frustration," Rose added.
The superintendent explained that Pennsylvania students are expected to complete school in 13 years, kindergarten through graduation, and it is up to the student's home district to make sure that happens. If a student fails a grade and then returns to a district school to repeat that grade, that extra year of education is held against the school district's record.
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Abolish mistakes altogether
The chess world is in a crisis. In tournaments like Biel and Dortmund, all the public gets is games full of mistakes. Something must be done to end this situation which is scaring away sponsors, organizers and potential young talents from becoming professional chess players. I am proposing a startling solution.
Ronald Reagan: "Mistakes were made..." Rustam Kasimdzanov's recent proposal to abolish draws altogether is clearly insufficient. His comparison of chess to other sports is counter-productive at best. Chess isn't a sport and never will be. Already in 1965 J.H. Donner wrote that "many artists are inspired by the game of chess, because many things can be compared with chess. The game of chess, however, cannot be compared with anything else." Maybe we shouldn't compare chess to other sports, or other arts, but to a different kind of discipline - mathematics. Both disciplines feature exact reasoning, use of the scientific method, calculation, precision, patience and wisdom. Why, despite this apparent similarities, despite the fact that many more people worldwide are capable of playing chess properly, do we stand light-years behind mathematics in everything that defines success in this professional discipline? The reasons are numerous, no doubt, but the main problem, as I see it, is the existence of mistakes in chess. Mistakes spoil good games and therefore lose their attraction to a big audience. Often, all we can say about a game of chess is, "Mistakes were made." In mathematics, on the other hand, the main attraction is the fact that every formula, every conjecture and calculation, must be proven to be correct. In short, to put it figuratively, in proper mathematics there will always be a correct result. In our game, however, things are different. In order to be successful outside of our little world, in order to make front pages and TV, and thereby also the finance that comes in a parcel, we need champions that produce correct moves and games, even to a public far from intricacies of chess. We can't tolerate mistakes to be made as this deprives the audience of an opportunity to see a games played out 'to the max'! If a player makes a blunder in the opening, it might end the game already after 10 or 15 moves. And I don't even want to mention the deplorable practice of 'throwing games' for money! This is clearly intolerable from a sponsor perspective. It is no 'value for money' at all. So here's my proposal. If we want success, sponsors, public and everything else, we need to abolish any mistakes in classical tournaments altogether. Just don't allow them to happen! How? Not by Sofia rules – tournaments with Sofia rules produced as many mistakes as any other; and not by 30 move rule, where players are often just waiting for move 30 to make a mistake. No, we need something entirely different. We need correctness. Every single day.
Bob Ross: 'There are no mistakes, just happy accidents'
Here's how it works. We play classical chess, say with a time control of four to five hours. Both players start at 100 points. A strong chess engine, say Rybka or Houdini, is following the game in analysis mode on a monitor and shows the objective evaluation position to the public and the arbiter. A mistake or a blunder? No problem – take back the move, play the engine's suggestion and start playing again, but with minus points for the perpetrator. Another mistake? Again take it back, deduct points, and play it from the correct move on. Until the game is drawn in a correct way and we count the number of points left for each player. We'll make front pages. And much more than that. Our game will benefit from it. Not just sponsors and attention and prizes. People will try extremely hard to avoid mistakes, in order to play correctly, and not be corrected by the computer. Instead of quickly making a blunder in order to save energy and catch a movie, or gamble with a risky but dubious move, chess players will show their whole ability and will play correctly all the time. Our game will finally become a true science. Thank God, there will be no more "happy accidents" (as Bob Ross used to say) in chess. Sponsors should be coming our way soon!
2 years 8 months ago
I have another better proposal: abolish chess.
All in one you get:
- No more mistakes
- No more quick draws
- No more pre-arranged games
- No more computer cheating
Fantastic, isn't it?
this article is nonsense! If you don't like mistakes in chess you're not a chess fan. Mistakes are the type of moves which make our game to fantastic. See Morozevich-Shirov from the current Biel GM-turney. Look this fantastic game was full of mistakes. But who cares? People all around the analysis room where sitting and where excited by this game.
If you want to eliminate mistakes than take a 120 core i7 cluster with 5 Terrabyte RAM and lets play houdini vs. firebird then you have a 50 moves game without any obvius mistake. Then try to find sponsors with this kind of thing.
Contanct me if you found one
2 years 8 months ago
Omg.....the things people come up with...seriously you think thats the main problem huh??? I dont know if i should laugh or cry..
2 years 8 months ago
I liked this a lot. Not just because it obviously isn't very serious, or might even be seen as a giant troll, but because it gives something to think about.
The beauty of chess is not about making the best move, but about the psychology of player versus player, mind vs mind. This is what separates chess from an exact science, it is an interpretation of human calculation and understanding. Therefore you might even compare the game of chess to making music or mastering an instrument. It is a pure form of art and culture.
"It is a pure form of art and culture."
Please ask a contemporary artist how easy it is to distinguish oneself from your peers - and get paid. For every 1% that make it on talent alone, there are the other 99% who make it through constant hard work at both becoming a better artist and at getting the work promoted.
Ahem... is this a joke?
A "mistake" by your definition could be a brilliancy according to a computer a decade down the line. But by then the "mistake" would be branded a "mistake" by theory so that the deade-later-computer wouldn't know that it's a brilliancy and not a mistake.
So, once a mistake always a mistake?? Or will "thinking idiots" i.e. the humans be allowed to judge God (aka the computer)?
Or maybe you would suggest every new version of programs play over these "correct" games by previous versions to rectify them?
Sigh, what a load of crap I'm getting into now....
And also, obviously you don't plan to tell the player WHY it is a mistake. And so the poor guy has to work out what the darned comp's thinking when it made its suggestion; so your idea also seem impractical to implement.
What's happening to GMs these days? Just get back to chess, you guys.
Gens una sumus
2 years 8 months ago
There are tournaments for computers, we do not need humans just to move the peaces.
What is the best move??? How do you know if the computer doesn't find the best move??? What if you play aggressive lines and (almost) brilliant sacrifices???
I am afraid that chess is much more than science. It is also physiology, war and art, all together and beautiful. Changes might be necessarily, but as someone who really likes chess, I would never support this kind of suggestion.
2 years 8 months ago
I know this is satire, but I think it's a great idea! This is the logical way to update Kasparov's "advanced chess", in a time when the human input is no longer valuable.
We do not need to have take-backs. In fact, Guid & Bratko showed in 2006 how to do this (in their paper "Computer analysis of World Chess Champions"). Play the game normally, with a strong engine watching. But instead of assigning points based on the outcome of the game, assign each player 1/z points, where z is the sum of the differences between the engine eval of the best move and the move actually played by that player. This is a kind of objective rating, and in fact can also replace ELO ratings.
Actually, I believe Guid & Bratko used the difference in evals, but
should be superior. That's because when one side has an overwhelming advantage, that player may rationally choose a nonoptimal move which wins more simply. For instance, a move that is +3 instead of +5. The difference 2 is large compared to the normal differences during the game. Guid & Bratko got around this with a hack, when they should have simply weighted the differences as above.
2 years 8 months ago
the sponsors don't pay for playing without mistakes, for making no-draws and so on.
THEY PAY FOR IMAGE OF CHESS, as an intelectual fight between 2 gentlemen.
but golf caught those sponsors and tennis as well.chess is no longer for elite.
But for the masses. and for the masses they have got football/soccer
2 years 8 months ago
the sponsors don't pay for playing without mistakes, for making no-draws and so on.
THEY PAY FOR IMAGE OF CHESS, as an intelectual fight between 2 gentlemen.
but golf caught those sponsors and tennis as well.chess is no longer for elite.
But for the masses. and for the masses they have got football/soccer
2 years 8 months ago
It seems Mr Arne Moll loves draws ! As they say, when you're psychotic, you never ride alone, Take your Prozac today ! It seems also that GMs love them too. Our forties-oldies can play their 5-moves drawing line, dressed like hobos and take their money. No problem !
Mr Arne Moll will continue his independent working career and chess reporter will never be a real job, neither will chess be a professional sport.
Here's the drawing line, we don't have different ways to make chess professional, you just don't want chess to be professional ! Thanks a lot, now it's clear !
By trying to make fun of the Great former World Champion, Mr Arne Moll just made his proposal more interesting.
What do you prefer ? Old Uncle Arne math-genius look with thickglasses or Media-compatible professional sport with Sofia Rules or Kasim-proposal ??
2 years 8 months ago
All great art is a visual form of prayer. (Sister Wendy Beckett)
Edward James
2 years 8 months ago
It's seems no matter how obviously something is a joke, you'll always find some people who think it's serious.
Amusing article though, with a nice point. Well played, Sir.
2 years 8 months ago
Seriously... I hear and read people saying that chess is in crisis.
I am french, and no ones talk in France about chess on TV. No one knows the names of Etienne Bacrot, Maxime Vachier-Lagrave. So what?
Many people are playing, all around the world. Tournaments are very good, very good players now come from all around the world, and training is becoming easier for everyone, as proven by the number of excellent players coming now from developing countries. Strong tournaments struggle to survive, and paying strong players to attend an event is costly. But very little compared to famous sports (soccer, basket,...)
It is difficult to live from chess, clearly. Seeing the money people get by playing soccer, or poker may seem awful. But these games are spectacular by nature, and so easy to understand, naturally. Chess is different.
No surprise tournaments have trouvle to find the right sponsors. Finding sponsors is a real job. It is not for amateurs. And with a president who met extra-terrestrials and Kadhafi, and a former candidate who is a personal enemy of V.Putin, no wonder there are few sponsors knocking at the door.
It seems that some people want so much to broadcast chess on TV (to get sponsors, for anything...) that they are ready to sacrifice what makes chess unique: it is not an easy game, it takes time to understand it, a game is long, it requires an intense and long training to succeed. Being gifted is mandatory, but not enough.
Anyway, it is not by dropping its identity that chess will become more popular, or will go on TV. Changing deeply its identity will only make it ridiculous. It would rather be better to focus on what makes chess different, and market it the nice way, than modify the nature of chess and kill it.
But this is my humble opinion.
2 years 8 months ago
Who wrote this..Arne Moll?...well Arne Moll you are so incredibly stupid and i must say dangerous a well. Abolish mistakes Altogether?..To start with, the title is anti-chess, anti-human and therefore anti-chessreaders!. Mr Arne Moll, chess is, above anything, a game. If you're unable to understand that then you shouldn't be writing about it. Secondly, the concept of winning a game of chess is crucial for the ambitions of a chess player and to finish i would like to ask you one thing:
How on earth will you be certain that a move proposed by a strong engine (which is only a tool) is "correct"?..get some sleep man, or a shrink.
Johannes J. Struijk
2 years 8 months ago
Dear Randi, apart from the fact that you obviously don't understand the article: It would be good if you would consider whether you really want to write something as unpleasant as you did here, if you ever will be writing something again on this website.
I agree with you Randi re the value of this inane essay....neither math nor chess are natural sciences, both have rules, but one is a competition and one a sophisticated tautology (Seen Kurt Godel)...Overlooked is RK in his essay started by saying other top chess pros are also concerned about the impact of non fighting draws on the popularity of the game. This is the direct result of the two players agreeing to stop the game out of fear they may lose!...What other competitive activity would tolerate such a corruption of the spirit of a competitive endeavor. This problem is easily solved: "Each player is required to play sixty moves unless a decisive result is reached first. The player who on the move brings about a third repetition of the position loses". Problem solved!
2 years 8 months ago
This joke would be relevant if Kazimdhanov's proposal were to have players play Advanced Chess.
Unfortunately, this doesn't illuminate anything, stifles exploration, and continues down the trodden path of rejecting new approaches while offering nothing on its own, even sardonically.
2 years 8 months ago
Be very careful with this article!
Kirsan might read this...
Who knows what's next.
Kirsan never reads anything, Joeri. He knows everything already ;-)
I enjoyed the article, but your comment really made me laugh out loud, Joeri.
Arne, you have the best sense of humor, even if some people don't understand it. And this was a great reply to ALL the silly stuff that's been suggested. Thanks for reminding me of the wonderful times I had watching Bob Ross.
2 years 8 months ago
not a nice solution , also don't know why someone considered even posting it here.
Kasim's idea was definitely a big improvement over current practices i.e. sofia rule ...
but using engine with game sounds crazy.
Nice one, Arne.
I can see you sniggering in a corner in total disbelief because half of the people here get seriously passionate&angry (or even try to rationally refute you) because they don't recognize the satire (what is somewhere between amusing and scary). Maybe they are new to chessvibes and do not know that nothing chessvibes publishes is ever to be taken seriously! :p
Also, I think the aliens are behind this. Yourself are definitely not clever enough for such a genius chess-solving idea, admit it!
P.S.: I'm using smileys otherwise people will think I am serious and attack me for calling you "not clever".
2 years 8 months ago
If I want to see something perfect i will buy Playboy, if you know what I mean.
Mistakes in chess are good. It keeps, us, the human race, 'on the ground'.
Because we have already accomplished sooo many great things:)
2 years 8 months ago
Maybe the point is that draws, and mistakes also , are an intrinsic part of the game. The idea of betraying the game by forbiding draws deserves harsh criticism and sarcasm. I very well remember, when 20 years ago, rapid chess was introduced with the idea of popularizing the game (lol). The idea of atracting sponsors by inducing the true aficionados to lose interest in the game does not seem well founded. Or have any of you seriously studied a blitz game?
Rudi Matai
2 years 8 months ago
Mister Drucker, you said chess is "an intellectual fight between 2 gentlemen" ?!?!?!?! Please note that also women play our beautiful game and enrich it with their play. Judith Polgar for example. Also madam Turova and madam l'Ami in the current Dutch Open Championships...As far as sponsors are concerned, an alcohol brand used to portray chess as a game between a man and his female partner, played after a romantic evening spent together as some sort of foreplay to the "wrestling match" they would soon commence in the bedroom...
2 years 8 months ago
Hey Arne,
I think changing poopy diapers every day has taken you to new depths! ;-)
Le Bigot J.M.
2 years 8 months ago
I just pray Illiumzinov doesn't read this. If he does, chess as we know it is dead!
The sad thing about this is though:
I'm sure Kirsan has many ideas like this. And he's dead serious.
2 years 8 months ago
Arne, every now and then, you are capable of a real flash of genius. Great!
Jens Kristiansen
2 years 8 months ago
Well done, Arne. Your proposal is almost as silly as Kazimsanov´s.
But I am afraid he meant it seriously.
Thinking is hard. Knee-jerk reactions are easy.
Give Kasimdzhanov some credit for putting himself out on the line as he did. If you ridicule someone, at least do it with some class and respect.
Your (implicit) fears of what Kasim's plan would do to tournament chess may be well founded, but the goal here is not to be soft on Arne Moll's ego (after your hard-earned draw with a higher rated player followed by a loss at a quicker time control) but to make chess more popular. Draws do not elicit much of an emotional response from the spectator, except perhaps if they are like Morozevich-Shirov from a couple of days ago. Most people want blood - and so do you, when you are playing a competitive chess game - and Kasim's idea provides just that. It favors the young and fit, i.e. it makes chess more into a sport.
Bert de Bruut
2 years 8 months ago
Though short draws should be curtailed, you are mistaken Coco Loco: Kasim's idea is a nineteenth century solution for a non-existing problem. It's not draws that scare away sponsors from chess. It is a handicap of the game itself. Computer genres like FPS and RTL have no issues with draws (one of the players will surely end up dead) but they likewise fail to attract much sponsoring. The reason for that is the same as for chess: you have to understand these games, and for that you actually need to have tried playing them yourself, to be able to distinguish good moves from bad ones, and appreciate why top players are better than others. This in not so with many physical sports. Even if you have never played or seen a tennis or football/soccer match before, you will understand what they are about and know must of the rules in under five minutes of watching them on TV. Chess, computergames and physical sports that are more complex, like criquet, will never be able to achieve this appeal to the masses. Abolishing draws, abolishing mistakes or even having everyone play naked for that matter, will not attract more general sponsors to chess. FIDE should focus on the niche where chess can be marketed instead of making grandious schemes that are doomed to failure.
There should be two complementary approaches to the sponsorship issue: growing the market base and getting the base to pay for the commercial products sold by the sponsor.
Kasimdzhanov's proposal might help with growing the base in the way he suggested in his letter - the higher likelihood of phenomenal individual results, which is similar to the way Fisher and Kasparov (just to pick some obvious examples) helped bring more people to chess - and also perhaps by making the sport more emotionally enthralling (everyone says they hate penalty shootouts in the soccer World Cup, but a dull 0-0 final result after 120 minutes of play is certainly worse for the sport's image.)
Regarding the second part - getting people to pay for stuff - let's think why people pay for Lionel Messi (or Lebron James or ...) T-shirts. They probably want to somehow identify with that player and daydream that they too can dribble and score like that. For a young aspiring player, this identification probably serves as a good motivator. For someone who never even plays the game, it's probably more helpful socially - bonding with other people supporting that player/team. Either way, money is spent, which is the whole point. If I had the inclination to pay for Kramnik's DGT clocks or Carlsen's clothing line or Topalov's advanced chess (wink, wink) training camp, I would be more likely to do it when that player was particularly dominating. I think that's why Kasim mentioned Djokovic's winning streak this year, for example.
By the way, I am not sure this no-draw idea would be beneficial for chess. But I think it's worth being taken into consideration and tried out in a couple of tournaments. Much more importantly, I just think a free flow of ideas is vital to the health of any endeavor. Having a chessvibes contributor mock a top GM's proposal seems pretty bad for chess to me.
Nice satire but except for Kasim nobody has given any kind of solution for the 'Kazan-disaster'. Still, if we want top chess we need sponsors, for sponsors we need publicity, for publicity we need attractive sport. Indeed, we need chess to be a real sport for real people for it to blossom, not just a hobby, a science and/or an art for most chess-lovers that read these pages. So let's fight short draws in top chess and produce results! Of course we are not going to implement Kasim's plans in amateur chess, since there are hardly any short draws and no big media exposure there to be found.
I think the article made a number of good points, but probably does not go far enough. I believe electric shocks would make for a better incentive against mistakes than some silly brownie point system.
2 years 8 months ago
I did not even bother to read an article with pictures of Ronald Reagan and Bob Ross because the last was shot dead in a gunfight in his self painted bush.
B Ollockstickler
2 years 8 months ago
Amusing. Well written, worthy of The Onion.
Pity there are so many dull humourless folk who take it seriously. They need to get out of the house more. Oh dear.
Thanks again,
2 years 8 months ago
What happens if you run out of points before a draw is achieved?
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