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Friday, January 10, 2014
With ice covering much of the Rock River, the open water near the dam at Center Street in Janesville is drawing a lot of hungry eagles. But the star of this video is the Great Gray Owl.
Press play and then click the "Full screen" button in the bottom right corner of the video window for a larger view.
Glen Loyd lives on the Rock River in Janesville 15 days a month. He is a former public information officer for Wisconsin Consumer Protection, publishes a weekly consumer protection blog. Glen is a community blogger and is not a part of The Gazette staff. His opinion is not necessarily that of the The Gazette staff or management.

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Odd food poisoning-like symptoms, strange tastes
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Just a thought, but in 1999, around 30% of corn was genetically modified. I've heard others talk about this and it stopped when they stopped eating GMO corn. Further points of interest are the GMO corn fed pigs who have exploded barns when their foamy, over-methane smelling feces turned into a bomb. GMO corn allegedly seems to be really playing havoc on mammals' guts. Something to consider...
I don't suppose anyone has found an answer for this yet? I have EXACTLY what you describe in your post. Happened to me about 4 or 5 times, between the ages of 12 and 14 (19 now) then seemed to just go away. Thought it had just gone away on its own, but it seems the problem has come back with a vengeance.
This is the 3rd time i've had it this year now, and it's starting to drive me into depression. No-one seems to know what the problem is, and my doctor pretty much dismissed it as food poisoning. I am fairly certain this is not the case, as everyone else in my family is fine.
I have a big phobia of being sick; hate it more than anything in the world. i try and hold off the vomiting for as long as possible, but i end up being sick every time without fail.
I'm assuming everyone here is still in the dark about it, but if by chance any of you have found out why this is happening, please please please please reply
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I too am a sufferer of this strange stomach problem. I found what works is if you head to your local health food store and ask for some bentonite clay powder. They may have it in liquid form and I would suggest that you get that. Take the proper dosage per day. It will help it clear up quickly. Trust me I use it and it works. I used to get this problem all the time and I did the clay only one time and I really have not had a problem with it since. It is something you ingest, It will not hurt you and it will soak up anything that is causing problems like a sponge. It is rather inexpensive. I used to go to the doctor all the time about this and after much research this was the only thing that has helped. I hope you find some comfort!!
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Well, I am another that is suffering these symptoms of severe watery diarrhea, cramping, nausea, and the strange tasting burps. Don't remember having this problem til this past year. Have now gone through about 8 to 10 bouts in the last 7 months. Not fun. I finally called my doctor yesterday and she order several stool sample tests. Of course, by the time my husband picked up the vials, the diarrhea (and burping) had subsided. Now just have to wait til the inevitable next bout, as long as the liquid in 3 of the vials is still viable. Will post the results later. Wanted to post some info from another site I found while searching for answers this morning. One person with the same symptoms took Alka-seltzer and it relieved his sulfur/popcorn tasting burping immediately. I have not tried it yet, as I am better this morning, but others on the site tried it, all with relief. Not a panacea but it works for the burping anyway.
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I have been having the same symptoms. I have not seen a doctor, yet. I was afraid I would be told it's food poisoning and dismissed. I figured they'd just tell me to let it run its course. I've had it twice, now. The first time was a couple weeks ago. My vomit and diarrhea were very dark brown with a seemingly sticky consistency. I only vomitted twice (in one sitting) with the first time. This second time from which I am currently recovering I was dry heaving for about 5 minutes, but never had any actual emesis. I definitely had the corn-tasting burps. Those are the WORST! I have felt like my insides were bubbling, someone had described it as boiling water, but no heat or anything. Some chills, a fever.
This has been happening to me too, like others I get a burnt popcorn burp taste, and I know I'll have diahreha or puking problems. Like right now. I'm only 13 but I don't seem to have any other problems but its really painful.
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Just in case anyone is still needing answers, i read this man's experience of periodic gastroparesis and it sounds exactly like what the original poster described. He has included what helped him as well https://nfb.org/Images/nfb/Publications/vod/vod_23_3/vodsum0805.htm. I'm not a medic but it might be worth seeing if the diet works for you, or check out the professionals that helped him. All the best.
If you have trouble opening that, search for My Life With Gastroparesis, just make sure its the right article (it's the personal story of a guy who had diabetis since childhood: diabetics can suffer from gastrparesis)
P.s. I only joined to share the information, I have my own 'struggles' so might not be back. I really wish everyone all the best
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Broadway audiences now know what sold-out crowds in Boston, Seattle and San Diego have known for some time: Memphis is an electrifying musical smash. The original tuner, which played gigs in all of these theater towns before opening on October 19 at the Shubert Theatre, features songs you actually want to sing, characters you actually care about and some of the best dancing currently found on the Broadway stage. Broadway.com cheered on the opening night performance of the show and partied with the cast and crew afterwards at Hard Rock Café in Times Square. Click on for complete photographic evidence!
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The New York Stock Exchange's (NYSE's) $4.5 million penalty for oversight violations represents the Securities and Exchange Commission's (SEC's) first salvo since Michael Lewis reignited scrutiny of market structure.
NYSE, which was bought by IntercontinentalExchange Group Inc. (ICE) last year, agreed to settle allegations that it failed to formulate or ignored rules governing everything from how traders connect computers to when prices are disseminated to floor brokers. It's only the fifth time the SEC has imposed a monetary punishment on a U.S. exchange.
The action had something for everybody in the market structure debate, with regulators making NYSE pay for lax compliance while citing years-old offenses that were mostly procedural. In September 2012, the company paid $5 million over rule violations for giving certain customers trading data before the public.
"When you compare it to the $5 million NYSE paid in the data feeds settlement, the amount of this fine is a big deal," Dave Lauer, president of consulting firm Kor Group LLC said in a phone interview yesterday. "At the end of the day, the SEC is making a statement. This is the way they operate now."
The sweeping complaint is the SEC's first regulatory broadside against a major U.S. exchange since the publication of Lewis's "Flash Boys" a month ago. The book sparked a debate about how fairly the American equity markets are structured. While the payment is small compared with NYSE's earnings, until recently fines were never levied against U.S. equity exchanges, which are shielded from legal scrutiny.
"It seems the case now that the SEC is treating exchanges just like any other regulated entity," Lee Schneider, New York-based counsel at law firm Debevoise & Plimpton LLP, said by phone. "The level of detail they go into also indicates to me they're looking into all activities at an exchange, rather than at a higher, level."
Eric Ryan, a spokesman for Atlanta-based ICE, declined to comment. Shares of IntercontinentalExchange were little changed today, trading at $205.77 at 9:35 a.m. New York time.
"The order highlights instances where the exchanges conducted business without a rule in place due to weak or inadequate policies and procedures," the SEC said in a statement. "In other instances, the exchanges did not operate in compliance with their effective rules. Both failures reflect a troubling lack of compliance with the requirements and obligations imposed on securities exchanges."
Self Regulation
Like other stock venues, the NYSE is a self-regulatory organization (SRO), meaning it writes its own rules and submits them to the SEC before they are enacted. In yesterday's complaint, the SEC alleged that the NYSE failed to develop strong enough procedures in some cases, and broke existing ones in others, and at times did not act when told by the agency's staff that it was in violation of regulations.
"The SEC probably sees a problem in the SRO model when they can't get an SRO to do what they want," Lauer said.
Listed in the SEC release were violations related to day-to-day operations at NYSE, among them the practice of colocation, which allows brokers to place computers close to exchange machines in order to reduce the time it takes to transmit orders. The citations were procedural, alleging NYSE rules lacked specificity or were ignored, and the SEC stopped short of indicating the practices themselves are illegal.
For instance, when NYSE provided colocation services to customers, it did so "without an exchange rule in effect that permitted and governed the provision of such services on a fair and equitable basis," according to the SEC. A feed that published data on trading imbalances to floor brokers was distributed at 2 p.m. from December 2008 through May 17, 2010, even though that did not comply with a NYSE rule stating the feed would first be sent to floor brokers at 3:40 p.m.
In another example cited by the SEC, the NYSE exchanges used an error account maintained at Archipelago Securities LLC to trade out of securities without having appropriate rules. Archipelago maintains the error account to trade securities that it acquires when computer malfunctions require it to buy or sell stock to maintain an orderly market.
In one instance, on Jan. 11, 2010, a testing error led ArcaSec to acquire erroneous positions with a total value of more than $4 billion, ultimately suffering a net loss of $1.2 million.
The exchanges, without admitting or denying the findings, agreed to settle the claims by retaining an independent consultant and paying the penalty along with ArcaSec, the SEC said.
Yesterday's settlement was the second time in less than two years that the NYSE has been assessed a cash penalty by the SEC, and the fifth civil monetary penalty between the regulator and an equities exchange.
In August, Chicago Stock Exchange Inc. agreed to pay $300,000 to settle regulatory claims that it failed to comply with rules designed to ensure all investors get the best prices. The SEC exacted a $6 million settlement from CBOE Holdings Inc. in June after it was found to have interfered with a three-year SEC investigation of short selling at a member firm. In May 2013, Nasdaq OMX Group Inc. agreed to pay the regulator $10 million to settle charges that it violated securities laws during Facebook Inc.'s initial public offering in 2012.
SEC Chairman Mary Jo White faced questions from lawmakers at a congressional hearing April 29 about criticism of the SEC's oversight of stock markets and automated trading strategies. While Republicans praised White for conducting a comprehensive review of market rules and activity, they questioned her proposal for a larger budget.
"We could not be doing a more intensive review of all of the issues," White said, adding that she couldn't disclose when the SEC would issue recommendations for new rules.
'Token' Fine
In March, the New York attorney general began a broad investigation into the U.S. stock market, while the Federal Bureau of Investigation is examining some strategies.
Not everyone believes yesterday's settlement was a strong signal to the industry.
"Most likely it was a token, kind of, 'We want you to pay more attention to this, but we'll let it slide this time; just do better next time,' whatever 'better' means," Javier Paz, a senior analyst at Boston-based Aite Group LLC said by phone.
That the settlement was reached now suggests the process began two or three years ago, Paz said, implying that it wasn't the SEC simply responding to recent controversies.


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Staff of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission have met with the Internal Revenue Service to discuss tax implications if money-market mutual funds were to adopt a floating share price, two people familiar with the talks said.
Discussions have centered on the tax treatment of small gains and losses for investors in funds, said the people, who asked not to be named because the talks weren't public. IRS officials have told the securities regulator that they don't have much flexibility to interpret current tax law, one of the people said.
The discussions suggest SEC staffers are developing a more detailed proposal to force money funds to adopt a floating share price, a move the industry has said would destroy their appeal. One such proposal prepared last year under the direction of former SEC Chairman Mary Schapiro was rejected by three of her four fellow commissioners in August, even before they were presented with a formal draft.
"The tax treatment of a floating fund is one of the main reservations expressed in comment letters" filed recently with regulators by fund companies, Joan Swirsky, an attorney at Philadelphia law firm Stradley, Ronon, Stevens & Young LLP, who specializes in money-fund oversight, said in an interview. "This will be a fully baked proposal by the time it comes out."
John Nester, a spokesman for the SEC, didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.
Regulators have worked to impose tighter restrictions on money funds since the September 2008 collapse of the $62.5 billion Reserve Primary Fund. Its failure, caused by losses on debt issued by Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., triggered a wider run on money funds that helped freeze global credit markets.
Schapiro's plan aimed to make funds less susceptible to runs and better able to absorb losses. It would have offered funds a choice of replacing their fixed $1 share price with a floating price that reflects the market value of holdings, or creating capital reserves and restricting redemptions.
Following the rejection, Schapiro appealed for help from the Financial Stability Oversight Council, a super-panel of regulators formed by the Dodd-Frank Act and headed by the Treasury secretary. The council, whose job it is to identify systemic financial threats, acted in November, pressuring the SEC to revisit the issue and recommending several reform options, including a floating share value and capital buffers.
Republican Commissioner Daniel M. Gallagher said in a Jan. 16 speech that SEC staff were preparing a rule-making proposal he expected to see before the end of March.
"Forcing money-market funds to float their net asset value has long been on the SEC's menu of options for structural changes," Mike McNamee, a spokesman for the Investment Company Institute, the fund industry's Washington-based lobby group, said in an e-mailed statement. "We continue to believe that temporary 'gates' to halt redemptions from prime money-market funds during times of market stress, with the option to impose fees for investors seeking further redemptions, would better address regulators' concerns about redemption pressures."
A floating share price may also create new accounting challenges for investors, although they could be directly addressed by the SEC, one of the people said. The agency has the authority to set accounting standards.
The commission staff is grappling with concerns that a money fund with a floating share value might not be considered a cash equivalent, the person said. That could make them less attractive to institutional investors and businesses that need to hold a certain percentage of assets in cash. The SEC could propose to clarify the cash status of money funds as part of a new rule proposal, the person said.
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Documents detail investigation into Walker aides
MADISON, Wis. — The investigation into illegal campaign activity by members of Republican Gov. Scott Walker's staff when he was working as a county executive greatly expanded the day before Walker was elected governor in 2010, previously secret documents released Wednesday show.�
The transcript of a closed-door hearing before a judge overseeing the probe into Walker's aides was among more than 27,000 pages of emails and other documents released by a state appeals court.�
The Associated Press and other media organizations pressed for them to be made public.�
The transcript of the hearing shows that the judge expanded the probe to four additional Walker aides on Nov. 1, 2010. The judge also approved the seizing of computers from Walker's county executive office and raids at his campaign office and homes of his aides, including his deputy chief of staff, Kelly Rindfleisch.�
She was convicted in 2012 of misconduct in office, a felony, for doing campaign work for Republican lieutenant governor candidate Brett Davis on government time. Rindfleisch was sentenced to six months in jail and three years of probation.�
Walker, who is up for re-election this year and eyeing a possible run for president in 2016, was not charged with any wrongdoing.�
The governor said Wednesday morning, just minutes before the documents were released, that he had not seen them but was confident they would contain no surprises.�
"Most of those would be four or more years old and they've gone through a legal process ... a multi-year extensive legal process by which each and every one of those communications was reviewed by authorities," Walker told reporters after giving a speech in Madison. "I'm confident that they reviewed them and they chose to act on the ones they've already made public."
Rindfleisch is appealing her conviction, arguing that the scope of the search warrants used against her were so broad that her Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable searches was violated.
The transcript of the hearing the day before Walker's election shows that the judge overseeing the probe allowed for the investigation to expand to include Rindfleisch, Walker's chief of staff Tom Nardelli, county spokeswoman Fran McLaughlin, and Walker's scheduler Dorothy Moore.�
Rindlfleisch was the only one of the four charged in the investigation. She was one of six people who were convicted following the probe that closed last year. A second secret ongoing investigation is reportedly looking into fundraising and other activities by Walker's campaign and other conservative groups.�
The court transcript shows that investigators had evidence showing that Rindfleisch was far from the only employee in Walker's county office who was communicating with his campaign staff during the 2010 governor's race.�
It was very common for Nardelli, Walker's chief of staff, to email with members of Walker's campaign staff, chief investigator David Budde told the judge overseeing the probe.
Budde testified that Moore kept a separate email folder for messages related to the gubernatorial campaign.
McLaughlin, who was Walker's spokeswoman, also regularly emailed people on the campaign, Budde testified. McLaughlin was granted immunity in the investigation.�
Walker's Democratic opponents have long argued that Walker was the mastermind of illegal campaign activity being done on government time out of his county office. Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida was scheduled to hold a news conference to react to the release on Wednesday afternoon.�
Walker said that was an example of cynicism in politics.�
"These people are naysayers who want things bad to happen in Wisconsin so they are going to be circling again today," Walker said. "It's exactly what's wrong with the political process that they're hoping for something bad to happen in Wisconsin. It's not. They're going to do what they've done in the past which is over-hype things. And politically they're going to be disappointed."
Many of the documents released Wednesday were added last year at the request of the Wisconsin Department of Justice so it could argue that the scope of the search warrants in the case was appropriate.�
The emails show Walker deeply involved in crafting his message as a candidate, including holding daily conference calls to discuss the day's events and writing his own quotes for press releases.�
Emails sent in February 2010 between Rindfleisch and Stephan Thompson, Walker's deputy campaign manager, show a desire to frame Walker as a job creator, even though, according to Rindfleisch, "The Economic development stuff is light because the county isn't able to do tax incentives like the city or state. So, it's limited what we can do."
Many of the messages also show Rindfleisch's role in setting up fundraisers to benefit Davis, the lieutenant governor candidate.�
Besides AP, other media groups that intervened in the case to get the records released were the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Wisconsin State Journal, the Wisconsin Newspaper Association, the Wisconsin Broadcasters Association, the Wisconsin Freedom of Information Council, the Reporters Committee for the Freedom of the Press and the American Society of Newspaper Editors.�
Associated Press writers M.L. Johnson, Taylor W. Anderson, Mike Cronin, Doug Glass and Dinesh Ramde contributed to this report. Johnson and Anderson reported from Madison, Cronin from St. Paul, Glass from Minneapolis and Ramde from Milwaukee.


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Stars come out at Beacon Awards
Clinton, Ali, Aaron and Cosby among honorees at luncheon
By Mark Newman / MLB.com
"The Gillette Civil Rights Game pays tribute to all those who stood up to inequality and to everyone who fights for freedom today," MLB commissioner Bud Selig told the capacity crowd in the Duke Energy Center ballroom. "Baseball is a social institution with very important social responsibilities, and on behalf of baseball I am proud to honor those who fight for civil rights and improve our society. I'm proud of the role baseball has played in giving people of all creeds, races and colors the chance to enjoy the life that freedom brings."
Selig presented Aaron with the Beacon of Life Award, honoring the man who hit 755 home runs and had to endure at least two major racial obstacles in baseball not just once but twice. The first was the mere task of getting into the Majors after playing in the Negro Leagues, and the second was withstanding the death threats and hatred in the process of breaking Babe Ruth's hallowed record of 714 home runs.
"Driving here this morning, I was thinking about the connection the city of Cincinnati and myself have in common," Aaron said in his acceptance speech. "About 50 years ago, I played my first game here in this ballpark, actually in Crosley Field back then, and that same year, I believe, Sept. 5 if I recall, I cracked my ankle.
"Yesterday, I had a chance to watch a roundtable, which I truly enjoyed. I just want to say, I leave all of you with these words: I hit 755 home runs, but I rode the shoulders of a lot of civil rights people, and I want to thank you for all you've done. Thank you all for making life easier."
Former boxing champion Sugar Ray Leonard presented Ali, the legendary former heavyweight champ and political activist, with the Beacon of Change Award. Ali, 68, appeared on stage already seated after the curtain was pulled, and standing beside him and speaking on his behalf was his wife, Lonnie. Sadly, "The Greatest," in the midst of a setting that had to be the most worthy of self-inspiration, was unable to motion in any way, due to Parkinson's disease. The crowd did his talking for him, a banquet of goosebumps. However, when appearing later in the day at the pregame ceremony at Great American Ball Park, Ali frequently waved with his left arm to acknowledge the crowd -- and stood with support during the national anthem.
"Muhammad has a saying -- the only thing that is constant, the only thing you can count on in life, is change," Lonnie said. "Change starts with the man or woman in the mirror. There's no way we're going to change unless we change ourselves. ... Even though we have come a long way, we still have a long way to go."
The Alis had a message to deliver to the sport of baseball, too -- drawing one of the many ovations from the crowd on this wondrous afternoon.
"Muhammad made his living in the ring, but we have become very big baseball fans and family. We have a son who plays baseball," Lonnie said. "I can't tell you the importance of this game in the neighborhoods and communities of America today. I know Hank was saying something yesterday about this, about recruiting our young children to play baseball. I think it's so important for Major League Baseball to step up to that plate and make sure these children in the community are given the opportunity to play this great sport.
"I know first-hand in Southwestern Michigan, where we live, the opportunity that baseball has provided. Not only for the game, but for society. But baseball is an expensive sport. It's not like basketball where you only need a hoop and ball. You need a bat, ball, many things, and it becomes a barrier to many of them, a hindrance to those who might become very good baseball players. I just want to leave you with that. On behalf of Muhammad, I and the family thank you so much for this wonderful award."
Clinton said of Ali: "I think all of us, at one point in our lives, if we've lived enough, have tried to imagine how we would respond if we faced some sort of significant physical challenge. Would we be bitter? Would we be heartbroken? Would we withdraw? Ali is still a big handsome man because he embraced his challenge. It's just another obstacle in life to overcome, to bear with dignity, to work through. I admire him so much because he kept on giving, and all of us should be very grateful to him as well."
Hall of Fame pitcher Bob Gibson presented Cosby with the Beacon of Hope Award. Not surprisingly, the legendary comedian -- whose countless credits include everything from the Bill Cosby Show and the voice of the cartoon "Fat Albert" to the groundbreaking "The Cosby Show" and bestselling books -- did everything but steal the show.
Cosby came out in fine fettle, dapper with shades. He grabbed the crowd like he owned it -- amazingly capable of standup comedy right now that no peer of any age could match. The first thing he did was offer a mini-roast of Hammerin' Hank.
"Henry hit all those home runs and they were because of his behind," Cosby said. "When he would come to bat, his behind was shaped like that (gesturing in a round shape). People tried to make their behinds shaped like that when they came to bat. And more people came to bat striking out trying to make their butt stick out like Henry. I didn't do that."
After Cosby's monologue, the sides of the average person in attendance at the 2009 Civil Rights Game Beacon Awards luncheon were splitting.
It was a moving luncheon, hosted by CNN's Soledad O'Brien, and for close to a half-hour the crowd heard an inspirational and passionate speech by Clinton. He spoke at length about the award recipients, about politics, about diversity and economic struggles, and about how no one can be immune from the daggers of racism and feel somehow shielded from it.
Referring to the great historian John Hope Franklin, who died in March at age 94, Clinton said: "He never lost his anger edge. He was a happy, angry man. And I think that's what we all have to do. Look, it's crazy to give your life over to anything, because that's arrogant. ... We are not given the power to dictate all events. But it's also crazy to ignore the action and passion of our time. You honor three people who never gave up their anger edge to keep making things better, to do the unfinished business of making America one country across all the color lines -- or,in the words of our founder, a more perfect union.
"Baseball is a team sport ... I knew baseball mostly as a child through television. We got one for the first time in 1956 when I was 9 years old. I got to watch Jackie Robinson. I got to watch Willie Mays. I got to see what happened in baseball over a long period of time. I'm so old that I was already out of law school by the time Hank Aaron broke Babe Ruth's record. I have loved baseball all my life, and I have revered the role it played in America's struggle to overcome its racial divisions and dark history.
"The great essayist Jacques Barzun once wrote that whoever wants to know the heart and mind of America had better learn baseball. And if you have followed America's modern struggle for civil rights from Jackie to Hank and beyond, Barzun was a pretty smart fellow. All three of our honorees today deserve the honor both because of what they accomplished in the spotlight and what they did after their careers in the stadium, the arena, the studio had tapered off. It is amazing when I think about the blessings I feel in my own life from having known these three men."
Clinton quickly tempered the moment with a reality check. If there is a theme to come out of this Civil Rights Game weekend so far, it is this: There is much to be celebrated in civil rights during this year of America's first African American president, but this is, as Cosby so eloquently put it, "not a done deal."
"A lot of people might be tempted to believe that the struggle which both produced these three giants of sports and comedy, and gave them the power to help so many others, that that struggle for racial equality is over," Clinton said. "After all, we have America's first African-American president. But I really came here to say if you want to honor Hank Aaron and Muhammad Ali and Bill Cosby, you must first recognize that this struggle is nowhere near over."
That may have generated the loudest applause of the day from a crowd that included many civic leaders and former Negro Leaguers, including the great Cub Ernie Banks and Chuck Harmon, the first African-American player signed by the local Reds. Clinton tied the Beacon Awards to events worldwide and said if he had one thing in life to do over, "I would have looked more at this question of identity."
"This is an interdependent world," Clinton said. "It is not possible to kill, jail or occupy every actual or potential adversary. Does it mean we don't need a national defense? Of course not. As we prepare for the worst, we have to be working for the best. That's what all three of the honorees do. Were they naive? No, they all have individual stories. I think about this now all the time.
"We have come so far from the days of the old Negro Leagues. But I wish that I knew Satchel Paige through films of his great pitching victories instead of reports of his statistics and clever one-liners. We've come a long way, but we've got a long way to go. The whole world today is one little place. And the fundamental questions that all three of these honorees had to ask when they started are still out there. Who am I? Where did I come from and where am I going? Is there a truth in life and can I know it, and what in the world am I supposed to do with it? What do all these other people have to do with it? Am I my brothers' and sisters' keeper? And if so, who are my brothers and sisters?
"We have to realize that if we want to keep getting, we have to give more. If we want the future I think we do for our children, we have to be able to share community and responsibility. We don't like ties in sports contests. The NHL got rid of it sometime in this decade. But we have to look for more ties in life. We have to look for more games that are win-win games, not win-lose. We have to, because of our interdependence. We have to look for more people like Branch Rickey, who didn't just want to win baseball games and he thought everyone should be able to play regardless of their race. Like Nelson Mandela. He put the leaders of the political parties that had taken away his whole life in his government after he was elected president. Because he realized South Africa had no chance unless the people were in it together.
"These are the questions we should be asking each other. ... The people we honor today and the milestones in baseball all occurred because a few individuals answered that 'Who am I?' question right."
Mark Newman is enterprise editor of MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Theories - Origin of Life
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Would you be an engineer, per chance?
This is unrelated to the discussion, and will not be discussed further, but I am curious...
Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without
any proof. (Ashley Montague)
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There is no issue with the use of the word "design" in the above cited paper because the author clearly points out his definition of "design" as a biological structure relative to it's function and the "designer" as adaptation through natural selection. In the introduction you quoted from, the author gives us his definition of design and designer. I probably wouldn't use the word design to describe the result of an unguided process, however, as you point out, it's common in the terminology. Not that the frequency of the use of the word design in any way gives it the meaning you wish it to have.
My issue is with YOUR use of the word design. You imply design in a guided manner but do not define a designer. Please clearly state your design hypothesis, including your "designer".
Using the author quoted above's definitions, you arrive at Darwin's theory. This is another example of you(scottie) attempting to misconstrue or mischaracterize what a cited example actually says. The article is actually really interesting if you read it. Does it refute natural selection in favor of a "design and designer"? Nope. That's not what the paper discusses in any way, shape, or form.
Was the Grand Canyon designed? It has form and function. I suppose you could say it was if you include geologic forces as the designer. However, design is probably not the best word choice, which brings me to the article by Andrew Moore that you cited. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 90011/full
I strongly agree with Moore here. I have heard others propose similar ideas and agreed to that as well. Anthropomorphic terminology is a problem, and is even evidenced by you yourself scottie. In articles you have linked, you imply such a meaning to words like design when a different meaning is what was intended by it's author.
I'm beginning to think there is a not a difference of opinion here in this thread so much as an attempt to lead a discussion astray by deception. The strategy you have used is this: The word design is used in an article and you ascribe an invocation of an agency, even though the author clearly did not. Or, if not an anthropomorphic misconception, you take a quote and attempted to twist it into a meaning it does not have in the broader context of the entire article, what is commonly called "quote mining". It's a form of dishonesty. Also you use terms like "Darwinism" and "Darwinists" in an almost derogatory manner. That's an example of trying to write off the scientific consensus as mere "group-think", and it's wrong. That's what ID proponents do when their arguments can't pass the scientific test. Claim the consensus is dogmatic and intolerant to new ideas.
I also want to address this nonsense:
How about:
Philosophy of Chemistry
Philosophy of Mathmatics
Philosophy of Physics
Yes, evolution is a FACT. Does it need a supporting philosophy? NO. What was stated by Mayr and others was that the unifying theory of biology, evolution by natural selection, opened the door for a Philosophy of Biology. It was as indeed as profound as Mayr stated in the article you linked.
Where you get it wrong is in trying to put the cart before the horse. The science behind Darwin's theory came before any philosophy could be built upon it. Not vice-versa as you attempt to assert. Additionally, the philosophy that arose from Darwin's theories was/is not playing some "supportive" role in propping the theory up as you suggest. It's how we deal with the implications of a new way of understanding the natural world around us and our role in it. Just the same as Philosophy works when applied to Chemistry or Physics or Mathematics.
What is the following quote supposed to achieve?
Weren't you repeatedly accusing others in this thread of using rhetoric? Hey pot, what color is that kettle again?
You call me religionist because I'm someone who agrees with the scientific consensus and argues the merits of a theory with zeal eh? Ridiculous. Also that list of PHD's you've mentioned again is a punchline more than it is a reason to take the ID movement seriously. You admit the list came from a Creationist/Intelligent design website. You claim you aren't one of "them", but you use their propaganda on a legitimate biology forum?
Also. Your abrasive, sarcastic, and passive aggressive tone really rubs me the wrong way. The floor is yours to spread some more fallacies draped in jargon and rhetoric I suppose.
Re: Theories - Origin of Life
Cis or trans? That's what matters.
Re: Theories - Origin of Life
To answer your question
Yes I am an engineer. I am a retired Managing Director of a communications company. My main subject is communications engineering.
May I ask you to please think about this and ask yourself if it is explainable. I am not looking to you to post any explanation, just to think about it.
What is physically the difference between a living animal and the same animal at the moment of death.
The corpse, remains under the same laws of physics and chemistry as the living animal, does it not?
The same collection of molecules exist in the animal during the moments immediately before and after death.
Yet after this transition, will you as a biologist think about genes as being regulated, or would you refer to normal chromosome functioning?.
No molecules will be carrying signals and certainly there will be no structures that will recognise those signals.
Coded information and communication in their biological sense, will have disappeared completely.
If life is simply a material manifestation of arranged molecules, why is there this complete contrast between the living and the dead animal.
Physically, they are still the same are they not?
Now you are trying hard to explain that life is just a collection of molecules arranged, amazingly, not just by some functional design, but by of all things, randomly.
Darwin privately envisioned life as starting from some quiet little pond full of the right molecules wherein life first got started.
Scientific American in it's September 2010 article entitled "Dust to Dust" page 58 describes the process of cell death
So here is all that is needed to start life off with. As Darwin envisioned a fluid rich in nutrients and we have that postulated "little pond".
What then do these nutrients have to do?
Well it's quite simple really.
The nutrients separate themselves into cell walls and enzymes. But of course actually these enzymes naturally digest those very cell walls. (But never mind lets carry on)
For some reason, lysosomes form to prevent that from happening.
Then the cells start taking in carbon dioxide from surrounding fluid to release oxygen. And viola there we have it Life!
Yet, you know as indeed I know that this does not happen, despite the conditions being so amenable.
What I find hard to understand is:-
What is it about this so obvious manifestation of evidence of some force operating beyond physics and chemistry, that you find so abhorrent to come to terms with.
Whatever this life force is, science is simply unable to explain, and yet not only do you seem to refuse to acknowledge this fact that is staring out at everyone, but you so readily appear to accept the notion that somehow and quite miraculously a random collection of molecules has come together and produced a living organism that has purpose, function and behaves predictably.
Is it not obvious that this life force whatever it may be, and clearly is quite apart from physics and chemistry, has to be present before life can manifest itself.
If scientists would have some idea as to what this life force is then it could perhaps be explained, but as it is science cannot explain it.
All we know with any confidence is where this life force comes from. You know it, I know it, every biologist knows it.
It comes from another life.
Scientists cannot even provide an agreed definition of what life is, let alone explain it.
This whole controversy is not about science, it is about different philosophies or religious beliefs that are trying to deal this question.
Ernst Mayr knew exactly what he was talking about when he described Darwin's view as an extraordinary philosophic advance.
So coming again to your repeated question, can I name the designer?,--
No I cannot, because science cannot.
Does not your own tag line go something like this " Science is proof without certainty…."
Yet you are trying to obtain a proof with certainty from me, which of course completes your tag line, rebutting creationists.
All anyone can ever do is provide a philosophical view that will probably be different from yours.
That of course will not be a scientific exchange, it will be a philosophical exchange.
So please tell me what prevents you from acknowledging that the materialist viewpoint you clearly hold (correct me if I am misrepresenting you) cannot be proved scientifically.
Ernst Mayr proudly acknowledged it as such.
However he put himself on the pedestal that clearly demeans anyone, that has a different view, as uneducated. This sort of arrogance does indeed permeate discussions like this and it does come from all sides of the debate.
Therefore it is not possible to enter into any rational discussion with that arrogant perspective as a controlling edict.
And that, as I have said before, is not a road I will go down, simply because of the way these exchanges quickly degenerate into shrill name and cat calling.
Now if you as a moderator would wish to start a thread on this subject with the strict rule that everyone's views will be treated with respect, then I will happily have an input.
This will also give some freeness of speech for any views to be aired without the posters of those views having to cope with the distaste of the emotional demeaning that keeps taking place.
1- There is a theory that those doubting evolution are particularly common among engineers. No explanation, just correlation. It is inconsequential but funny, and indeed very often true. the good thing is that in spite of the general very poor understanding of biology (no, you are no exception), at least the argument with engineers are slightly more interesting that with the religious crowd.
2- For your little story, decomposition of living things are usually not leading to new life, because even in the deadest corpse is teeming with life which is extremely adept at using all source of energy to its benefits. And very efficient at it too. So even if a new life form were to emerge, it would be at such a competitive disadvantage that it would disappear quickly. (Think throwing a toddler in a hungry tiger cage to compete for food....).
3- You still have not answered my one simple question.
Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without
any proof. (Ashley Montague)
Re: Theories - Origin of Life
There is nothing theoretical about your comment.
You see engineers have to live in the real world of physical laws. They have to design and make things. Therefore they are bound by laws that make their projects possible.
They cannot philosophise or fantasize about matters, because philosophy and fantasy do not make things.
So that's your best argument is it?
What part of biology have I got wrong?
I am not referring what decomposition may lead to.
Are you deliberately trying to miss-understand the point I was making?
My point was to try and help you to think that life is not a physical/chemical process.
Life uses physical and chemical processes and is something apart from them.
Darwinian theory in effect states that life is just a physical/chemical process and my "little story" as you put it simply shows that that is not so.
Even I, who only studied biology at college knows what Louis Pasteur proved.
Do go back to your school notes and read all about his experiments.
Or did you not learn that at school?.
Life only come from another pre-existing life.(that's what Pasteur demonstrated and to date it has not been refuted)
Every biologist knows that, but those of a materialist philosophy then try to argue otherwise and as I have said before that number is reducing.
Of course micro-organisms (other living organisms) do infect and feed off the dead corpse, but corpse is dead and you know it. The life that was controlling that now dead copse is no longer there. It has gone, vanished , vamoosed, disappeared.
The biological processes in that corpse has wound down and no longer exists.
Are you seriously arguing that the dead corpse is somehow alive or with the right physical conditions could be made alive again?
Is that your contention?
Come on surely even you can do better than that.
I know, points you are unable to answer are somehow irrelevant, but only because you are not able to answer them.
You may wish to argue by issuing dictacts. That what religions do, but that only enhances my contention.
Again, I have and you know it.
You ask for a name as if that matters scientifically.
You are trying to hide behind a philosophical point to advance your claimed "scientific" view.
However have you even tried to describe how random, undirected processes can account for the functionality we observe in the cell?
Other than, ofcourse stating by – dictact – that it does.
That is your problem.
You are stuck with a doctrine that you can't explain, you cannot prove, so you have to rely on these dictacts.
I have often asked priests and clergymen to explain the doctrine of the trinity. (you know how three persons can be one person).
The answers is always the same.
Well it is. It is a FACT.
Now how is your method any different?
I see no difference.
But then I have no imagination, after all I only a humble engineer:)
Thank you for your demonstartion of your ignorance and stupidity. That will be my last post in this thread.
Just for your education, i will nevertheless that death is not what you think. When an organism dies, it does not mean that all cells instantaneously dies simultaneously. In fact, all cells will die, but some might take way longer time depending on their requirements in food and oxygen. So life is still active, but the general system is unable to perform the coordinated activities that were allowed the survival of the organism. In case of a human, that would entail respiration, blood circulation and so on. Some cells that are bad are storing energy and with high energy needs (as neurons) will die quickly when those functions cease. Other like some hair and skin cells with very low requirement will be able to keep going for weeks, in their own little corner.
As an engineer you should think of it as a very complex machine with multiple independant subsystems where the central control dies. many of the subsystems will be able to carry (some of ) their functions automatically, but without order or significance. The machine itself is dead.
As for your engineer explanation, we pretty much agree on the reason of the correlation (used to work on complex and designed system) but in my view you need to add arrogance and ignorance (of biology) to the mix to explain creationism. And you sir are are an arrogant fool. Learn about biology before you talk.
Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without
any proof. (Ashley Montague)
Rapid advances in the study of genetics and molecular biology have produced additional insight into fundamental questions such as the origin of life on Earth. You should write a paper that provides an overview of Genetics engineering perspective
Re: Theories - Origin of Life
We are agreed then as you say the "machine" is dead.
Now if you had actually read what I did write, you would have understood I was describing a winding down process
I actually said
To add to the information I could have said that individual cell death takes anywhere from some minutes to perhaps a couple of days as the lack of blood flow starves the cell of the energy needed to maintain operations and so on and so forth.
However I assumed I was debating with a biologist who would have known these things.
But there you go, in my arrogance, I deemed it unnecessary.
However you do make a valid point
Indeed I have spent the last three years learning, which is why I have the "arrogance" to debate with an obviously intelligent biologist, on his own turf.
To demonstrate how much I have learned, not from my own research, but from those much more eminently qualified, I will take up kathreeds suggestion and present some of the latest research in genetics.
I appreciate you will not be saying anymore on the matter but perhaps others may be interested in what is coming to light.
I will of course support whatever I present with the necessary evidence. (as I have always done)
Thank you for your suggestion. A tremendous amount is being learned about cell functions.
One of the major areas of research is in the field of epigenetics.
The information is quite fascinating.
Re: Theories - Origin of Life
Since Watson and Crick identified the structure of DNA and Marshall Nirenberg along with Hargobind Khorana and Robert Holley broke the code of it, a central dogma in molecular biology solidified.
DNA codes RNA codes Protein.
DNA being the carrier of genetic information in organisms.
http://employees.csbsju.edu/hjakubowski ... dogma.html
In the 1990's it became evident that this simple concept of DNA encoding protein is not what is actually happening.
It became clear that the original length of DNA (the gene) is substantially altered before the protein encoding is accomplished.
In my post of the 20th May I provided some information relating to the way a gene is modified before protein is manufactured.
by scottie » Fri May 20, 2011 9:30 pm
My comment was
This was in effect introducing the subject of epigenetics into the discussion
You will find this site a useful introduction to the subject
I will take this a little further next.
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There has been much in literature about the to-be-born child's ability to receive stimuli such as sounds heard inside and outside the womb (e.g. music, the mother's heartbeat, etc . . .), various emotions felt by the mother, and physical trauma. Little has been said about the ability of the mother to communicate directly with her unborn child and the ability of that child to respond in a way that the mother can understand. In this workshop, we posit that communication, by way of meditation, can be taught, and that many benefits may accrue.
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Flaws of Life in a Tube
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Flaws of Life in a Tube
I will simply list the flaws of life in a tube. I encourage debate, although I cannot understand how you can debate the flaws of an experiment which are sealed in time and unchangeable.
1)This experiment was done without the presence of oxygen.
-oxygen is needed to support life. therefore, how can life exist in a tube without oxygen? I would appreciate if you could explain how.
2)This experiment was done with the presence of tar (85%)
-i would like everyone to consider the tar pits. which, when living things stepped into them, they became fossilized in mid-movement. I would like to refer specifically to a elephant that was frozen in an epic still life, where the trunk is pointing in the air, presumably above the surface of the tar, while it is attempting to breathe.
3)This experiment only synthesized amino acids and simple proteins
-of the amount of amino acids synthesized, it was about 50-50 right and left handed amino acids. Life uses almost 100% left handed amino acids.
4)The simple proteins synthesized were not the beginning of DNA
-the proteins used in DNA are a bit more complex that the proteins synthesized. Also, DNA is an interviewing of a mass amount of guanine, thiamine, cytosine, and adenine. So much so that when unraveled, it extends form the earth 'till the moon. However, there was nowhere near the amount of this material produced in this tube.
This is much more than is needed to show that this experiment was flawed and does not reproduce, in any fashion, the origins of the theory of evolution. The massive majority of evolutionists in the scientific community has yet to properly reproduce the processes which are stated in the theory of evolution to have occurred. If you do know of any lab reproductions of evolution, I would like to hear about it so that I may correct myself.
-facts, observed events, plausible explanations, and solid evidence
so, you want to compare experiment in a small tube with whole-planet-size "experiment" (No 4)?
Well, again and again, you anti-evolutionarists are fighting againt evolution by focusing on the origin of life, but you do not realize, that these two things are basically independent.
Cis or trans? That's what matters.
Re: Flaws of Life in a Tube
Sorry but you are wrong.
These two are not independent of each other.
The most basic form of life is a single cell prokaryote or archaea.
Nothing below these are considered live.
These are the most basic form of species and it is from these that all other forms of life evolved, according to evolutionary theory. This common ancestry is a fundamental pillar.
Darwin's original narrative is entitled "Origin of Species.."
The origin of life and the origin of species are one and the same thing.
aptitude: yes, the Miller-Urey experiments.
Jackbean: For one, No.4 is only a fourth of the argument. How can life develope in a tube of tar, without oxygen? He synthesized simple proteins without oxygen. Life needs oxygen.
Jackbean, a portion of evolution states that the very first forms of life came from the sea as a result of the chemical slosh (chemical revolution). It sais that prokaryotes developed, then eukaryotes, then multicellular eukaryotes (biological revolution). This is found in my Miller science book. Obviously, this is the origin of life. And tagging off of scottie, Darwin's name for evolution was the "Origin of Species".
-facts, observed events, plausible explanations, and solid evidence
Is oxygen really necessary for life. Really? And what about all that bacteria that are strictly anaerobic and cannot survive in presence of oxygen?
And survival (or lack thereof) of complex organisms in tar is not related to the survival of prokaryotes in the same environment. Bacteria can survive in tar, use it, degrade it (albeit slowly) and multiply in it. So the fact that a mammoth is not happy in a tar pit is irrelevant about the ability of tar to sustain life.
Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without
any proof. (Ashley Montague)
In reference to the presence of tar: tar does not represent the majority of the conditions around the world. The tar pits are rare to California. It is not an accurate representation of life on Earth.
Yes, there are anaerobic bacteria. However, how can organisms who need and produce oxygen come from a bacteria that does not need or produce oxygen? This is impossible. Also, where in nature has the evolution of anaerobic bacteria been observed to havecome out of tar?
In addition, the molecules synthesized were not representatives of the beginning of DNA. DNA is much more complex and is produced in much larger amounts. Also, the amino acids produced were about 50-50 left and right handed amino acids. Life uses almost 100% left. This was not an accurate representation of life.
-facts, observed events, plausible explanations, and solid evidence
but you must consider that you are not thinking about present-day organisms, but ancient pre-organisms, which had no idea about oxygen in air, but were kind of adapted to the ancient enviroment. However, later one of them started to produce the killing oxygen (it was probably by-product of a metabolism) and thus had to evolve defence against it. Later on, we learned, how to use it to have more efficient metabolism.
Cis or trans? That's what matters.
I would appreciate if you could find evidence, not conjecture, to show that "ancient pre-organisms" did not need oxygen and could be killed by oxygen. Until then, I will say that this is false.
Also, how did organisms that did not use oxygen develop organisms that used oxygen?
Also did these "ancient pre-organisms" develop from the chemical slosh? If not, how did they develop? Where did "ancient pre-organisms" come from?
-facts, observed events, plausible explanations, and solid evidence
Oxygen is not required for the synthesis of proteins or nucleic acids in any way. It is required only for aerobic respiration.
Also, the first organisms on earth were not heterotrophic, they were autotrophic. They were probably chemoautotrophic rather than photoautotrophic and evolved in deep-sea hydrothermal vents, but they did not in any way require O2. In fact, O2 was probably poisonous to the organisms due to its oxidizing power.
The tar pits that you have used in your point #2 have nothing to do with the Miller-Urey experiments.
As for point #4, the amount of DNA in a typical human cell stretches out for 2 meters, not "from the earth till the moon". The first organisms had nowhere near this amount of DNA (or may have lacked DNA altogether). However, it has been conclusively shown that amino acids, poteins, nucleic acids, and other biomolecules can be synthesized in large amounts near deep-sea hydrothermal vents in modified Miller-Urey experiments. In recent analysis of the vials produced by the experiments, far more biochemicals were uncovered than previously thought, including 23 amino acids rather than just 5.
Also acknowledge the fact that the Miller-Urey experiments are only a small part of the extensive amount of research on abiogenesis. This includes experiments done by Wachtershauser, Fox, and Eigen, along with many others, which uncover new evidence and provides new models. These include new models to explain homochirality in biological systems, which you are arguing in point 3.
Your (rather primitive) argument is thus flawed on many accounts.
1)The problem with the first organisms evolving at thermal vents, is that they need to produce organisms that can move away from those thermal vents. Why would these organisms need to evolve if the vents arent going away, or if they have no predator? There is nothing to coax the adaptation of being able to move away from vents.
How can organisms well accustomed to vents produce organisms that do not need those vents?
Also, if O2 is poisonous to them, then the organisms evolving from that would also be susceptible to this. Also, how can organisms that dont need oxygen and are killed by oxygen produce organisms that produce oxygen and are not poisoned by oxygen? Also, if this is where oxygen came from, how did the early organisms know or create an element that did not exist on earth?
2)In the Miller-Urey experiments, their tube contained 85% tar. The tar pits contain tar. The tar pits encased life at the instant it stepped into it. Even if a complex organism with complex organelles (cell) could develop from the random, unorchestrated arrangement of chemicals, that life would be encased in tar.
If this is the result, then the sea should be a bunch of tar instead of water. I understand that some microorganisms can break down tar, but at what speed and into what do they develop it?
3)Still, in the Miller-Urey experiment, it produced 50-50 left and right hand amino acids. Again, life uses almost 100% left handed. This is not an accurate representation of life. Obviously, this fact cannot be avoided. You did not talk about it in you previous account. What is your take on it?
4)You are referring to experiments of which I had no knowledge of. If these experiments are such convincing proof, then why havent they been made as famous or more famous than life in a tube? If they are so convincing, can you please cite specific experiments and how they prove evolution instead of referring to them in a general sense? Also, I would appreciate if you could provide me with the names for these experiments and the scientists who conducted them so that I may investigate the facts.
As a side note, I will be posting a new thread about sciences and facts that do not allow evolution to be possible. Its title is "Irrefutable Facts Against Evolution". I would appreciate if you could be on the look out for this and I would appreciate you review of those facts.
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Normally, I see responses in 24 hours. It seems that when aptitude was asked very serious questions unexplained by evolution, it was quite difficult to validate and defend the results of the Miller-Urey experiments.
Also, he said that "experiments done by Wachtershauser, Fox, and Eigen, along with many others, which uncover new evidence and provides new models".
I asked for further response, for the name of the experiments and the scientists. I think this quote is all I have to go on. I will soon be researching with the limited information I have here, and will be posting flaws in their experiments.
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SURPRISE, Ariz. -- Brandon Sisk, the relief pitcher the Royals traded for starting pitcher Ervin Santana, was cut by the Angels on Sunday and assigned to their Minor League camp.
Sisk appeared in just two Cactus League games, giving up one run and one hit in two innings. A left-hander, Sisk last year pitched in 50 games for Triple-A Omaha and had a 3-2 record with eight saves and a 2.54 ERA.
Santana, his $13 million option declined by the Angels, would have become a free agent had not the Royals jumped in with a trade offer at the last moment.
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"I think he's coming back Monday. I've got him in the lineup on Tuesday, so he better be here," manager Ned Yost said.
Perez was 1-for-5 in two games for Venezuela, which went 1-2 in the Classic.
Also returning after Monday's day off will be pitcher Luis Mendoza, whose team Mexico was also eliminated. He'll resume his bid to get in the running for the fifth rotation spot with Bruce Chen and Luke Hochevar.
First baseman Eric Hosmer and pitcher Tim Collins are heading for Miami with Team USA for the second round. Hosmer hammered a three-run double in the ninth inning on Sunday to cement USA's 9-4 victory over Canada.
Also headed for Miami are second baseman Irving Falu with Puerto Rico, and pitchers Kelvin Herrera and Atahualpa Severino and third baseman Miguel Tejada with the Dominican Republic. Both teams also advanced to the second round.
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SURPRISE, Ariz. -- Maybe the Royals will use their off day on Monday to catch their breath. In the last two games -- a 13-2 victory over the Giants, followed by a 17-11 romp over the Angels -- they've combined for 38 hits and 30 runs.
On Sunday, right fielder Jeff Francoeur was just a single shy of the cycle after hitting a triple, double and home run in four at-bats. After the home run, manager Ned Yost took him out of the game.
"I thought he did good enough," Yost said. "I was glad to see Frenchy is getting his timing, he's starting to swing the bat well."
The Royals lead the Majors with a .347 average this spring, and are second in runs scored with 112 (although the Mariners, with 113, have played one more game).
"We've got big guys that can drive the ball and hit home runs," Francoeur said. "I'm not saying we're going to jack three home runs a game, but there's no reason that we can't go out and score runs. That's what we need -- drive the ball in the gap -- especially in Kansas City where we have a huge park -- and score some runs."
In terms of Spring Training home runs, the Royals have 15, which ranks 15th out of 30.
Hochevar, Chen struggle against the Angels
SURPRISE, Ariz. -- The battle between Luke Hochevar and Bruce Chen for the Royals' No. 5 starting job was a standoff on Sunday. They both got banged around in a 17-11 win over the Angels.
Hochevar started and gave up five hits and four runs -- on a pair of two-run homers -- in 3 1/3 innings. Chen took over and gave up five hits and five runs, one on a homer, in 3 2/3 innings. Each pitcher walked two. Hochevar struck out three, and Chen struck out four.
"Nobody took a step forward today. It was kind of neutral," Royals manager Ned Yost said. "I just walked in after that game, thinking the positive is we pitched good enough to win. When you score 17 runs, you better."
Hochevar threw 68 pitches, including 42 strikes. Chen's count was 67-40.
Despite the statistical upheaval, Hochevar saw some positive signs in his performance.
"I thought my changeup has come a long way," Hochevar said. "I threw it quite a few times today, and got some swings and misses out of it and some really soft contact. I feel like my fastball command is coming along better and better every time, and my arm strength is coming along as well. And I feel like my breaking ball is right on track."
Yost OK with courtesy runner for Pujols
SURPRISE, Ariz. -- It wasn't a local kickball game, but it felt like it the two times Albert Pujols reached base and gave way to what can simply be called a "courtesy runner."
For each of Pujols' three starts this spring, the Angels have made an agreement with the opposing manager to let them deploy a pinch runner whose sole purpose was to run the bases so their recovering slugger could simply hit.
It didn't come into play in the first two games, with Pujols going 1-for-6 with a homer. But on Sunday, when Pujols went 2-for-2 with a walk and his second home run in as many days, it raised confusion at Surprise Stadium.
Non-roster invitee Matt Young, who finished the game in center field, replaced Pujols on the bases after a line drive single in the first inning, but the umpires thought that meant Pujols was out of the game. So they were surprised to see him come to the plate in the third, which prompted a long on-field discussion between Angels manager Mike Scioscia, crew chief Bill Miller and Royals skipper Ned Yost.
"I talked to Mike about it before the game and I didn't have a problem with it," Yost said. "On a number of fronts: One, we had a packed house [7,417 announced attendance] and they want to see Albert Pujols; and two, I want our pitchers facing Albert Pujols. I didn't think it would be an issue, but Bill thought it'd be an issue."
The Angels were eventually allowed to use Young after Pujols drew a walk in his second plate appearance -- but they let Pujols jog around the bases when he took Bruce Chen deep in the fifth.
Pujols ran the bases for the first time on Saturday and has said all along that he'll be ready by Opening Day, but the Angels are being extra cautious with him after offseason right knee surgery.
There's still no target date for Pujols' debut at first base, where he continues to field groundballs, but simply appearing in back-to-back games is a good sign -- even if it comes as the designated hitter.
"I think it's significant in the fact that still he has to run, he has to swing; there's some things that he needs to do," Scioscia said. "But I think when he gets out there and plays first base and repeats it, we'll know that he's far enough along that his leg's feeling where it should be."
Davis throws successful bullpen session on Sunday
SURPRISE, Ariz. -- Right-hander Wade Davis threw in the bullpen on Sunday and his right shoulder passed the test.
"It went pretty good," Davis said. "I've been playing catch the whole time, I just threw my side today and I'll throw another on Tuesday."
Soreness in Davis' right shoulder prompted the Royals to skip his turn in the rotation on Saturday. He expects to make his scheduled start on Friday against the Padres.
Davis said his shoulder muscle just tightened up in a very small area.
"Nothing extreme. Actually, it felt great through the whole process. It was just a really small little deal that we wanted to take it easy on, so we just took a couple days [off]," he said.
Royals, Rangers to play 'B' game on Tuesday
SURPRISE, Ariz. -- After two games were abbreviated by rain on Friday, the Royals have scheduled a "B" game at 10 a.m. MT on Tuesday against the Rangers.
The purpose is to get pitchers Blaine Boyer, Francisley Bueno, Michael Mariot and Brian Sanches an inning of work each in what's planned as a 4½-inning game. More than rain figured in the decision to play the extra game.
"It's more of a product of guys starting to build their innings up," manager Ned Yost said on Sunday. "We've got two guys going today [Luke Hochevar and Bruce Chen] that hopefully are going to get through four [apiece]. We've had games where we can have five or six pitchers throwing, but now we've got three if everything goes well."
Royals starting pitchers are at a point where they'll throw either four innings or 60 to 65 pitches in an outing.
Dick Kaegel is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Your Views: Janesville, federal incentives to SHINE ignore equal opportunity
If SHINE receives all incentives mentioned in the April 4 Gazette, those 125 jobs could cost Janesville and the U.S. governments $272,000 per job. These government commitments will raise taxes on the rest of us, leaving little money for business expansion. SHINE will create no jobs during a seven-year period.
�I believe 1,200 or more jobs could be created now, with this money, if both governments would streamline the dysfunctional regulatory environment and, with grants, help existing businesses fund government mandates. Most regulations are unnecessary, awkward, cumbersome, confusing, expensive and job obstructing. Janesville can lead with readable regulations clearly stating their purpose and making them difficult to interpret wrongly.�
Society's existing attitude is that all businesses are evil. Many businesses are evil, as are the unions. They differ in that one provides paychecks, while the other constrains expansion through union rules, thereby limiting more jobs—i.e., no one can change a light bulb except an electrician, even if none is available until the next day. I counted 17 different unions—far too many—stumbling over each other to build a hospital.
The city council can create jobs now by concentrating on existing business rather than high-profile ones. Give all of them "equal opportunity."
In the Pledge of Allegiance, at every council meeting, you say, "with liberty and justice for all." All means everyone. It does not mean "for the better overall good of the community even though some get hurt," as some council members seem to think.


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Welcoming 2012: A Cheese Plate for New Year's Eve
We checked in with our lead cheese buyer, Kurt, to see what he was recommending for this New Year's Eve. He put together a selection that hits all major milk types – cow, goat and sheep – while covering a range of textures and cheese styles. And, they all pair beautifully with sparkling wines!
Langres – When in doubt about which cheese to pair with a given wine, it is almost always safe to say, "something from the same region." As it happens, we have a corker (pun intended!) for Champagne. Langres is a small format washed-rind cow-milk cheese that comes from the same region of France as its most famous style of bubbly. Traditionally, it is served by pouring a small amount of Champagne over the top.
Ekiola Ardi Gasna Fermier – "Ardi Gasna" translates as "sheep cheese" in the Basque language. On a trip to the Pyrenees in 2010, Ihsan, Valerie and Julie of our South End store, discovered this raw milk cheese. Sourced from a tiny farm, this is exactly the kind of cheese they were hoping to find. It has a firm texture with bright, rich flavors of sheep milk and hay.
Robiola di Capra in Foglie di Castagna – This is a pure goat-milk robiola from Piedmont wrapped and aged in chestnut leaves. When young, the cheese has a thick, cakey texture similar to a young chèvre, but with a beautiful density of flavor. As it ages, the cheese starts to mellow and, through contact with the leaves, it develops an earthy, wine-like aroma and flavor. Unwrapping the leaf covering makes it a dramatic centerpiece.
Strach'in – Brand new to our cheese case, there was much excitement when this cheese arrived. Strach'in is a super creamy, sweet cheese – essentially a small production Gorgonzola Dolce – and it pairs perfectly with something dry and bubbly. Consensus on the cheese counter is that this was an excellent addition to our repertoire of blues.


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Beloit police investigate pair of armed home invasions
BELOIT—City police continue their investigation of two armed home invasions, including one in which a person at one of the homes was shot Monday night.
The first incident occurred about 8 p.m. Monday at a home in the 1700 block of Hurst Avenue.
In a news release, police said more than one man forced entry into the residence, struck the victim with a handgun and held the victim on the floor while the men went through the residence. The men then fled with electronics and an undetermined amount of cash.
The victim, who was treated for minor injuries at the scene, said the men were wearing masks.
The victim in the second invasion gave the same description.
That incident occurred about 9:30 p.m. at a home in the 200 block of Roosevelt Avenue, police said in the release.
The victim said more than one man forced entry and a struggle took place. The victim was shot twice in the right shoulder, and the men fled. The victim was taken to Beloit Memorial Hospital.
Early Tuesday, evidence technicians were at both scenes and detectives continued their investigation.
Police encouraged anyone with information about the incidents to call the Beloit Police Department at 608-364-6801 or Beloit Area CrimeStoppers at 608-362-7463. Individuals also can text information to 274637 then type BACS and a message.
Information leading to an arrest may result in a cash reward up to $1000.


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Double dip? Retired teacher gets hired back
JANESVILLE—The Janesville School Board on Tuesday voted to rehire a teacher who retired in June, but not without considerable debate about double-dipping.
Joe Dye, the Parker High School math teacher and athletics director who retired June 4, will return to fill those same positions at a salary of $75,000, the same salary he had when he left, officials said.
Dye also will collect his pension.
While this is a rare event here, it happens often on a statewide basis. A recent report by the Legislative Audit Bureau found that in a 15-month period, local governments hired 2,599 retirees who collected a state pension.
School board member Kevin Murray said it may be legal, but he doesn't think it's right.
"It's not about Joe Dye," Murray said. "Joe Dye has been nothing but distinguished and wonderful for the school district, but he did retire. …
"To me, this looks like the perfect case for people to say, or I could say, extreme double-dipping," Murray continued.
Other board members echoed Murray's compliments of Dye's character and respected career.
Murray said he is a retired firefighter who benefits from a state pension, but the public's distaste for double-dipping undermines support for such benefits for public workers.
Why couldn't the district do without Dye? Murray asked.
Personnel director Steve Sperry laid out what happened under questioning, mostly from Murray and board members Scott Feldt and Bill Sodemann,
Parker and Craig high schools had eight openings for math teachers. Seven of those were eventually hired, but the position Dye held was held open because some teachers at Parker were interested in Dye's other job, that of Parker athletics director.
No internal candidates emerged, however, so the district posted Dye's job: a teacher for two periods of math and three periods as athletics director.
It would have been difficult to hire those positions separately, Sperry said.
Parker Principal Chris Laue told the board that no other part-time teaching positions were open, so the combined math/athletics director combination was the only alternative.
The law did not allow the district to talk to Dye for 30 days after his retirement, and no one did, Sperry said. But it happened that the job was posted July 9, after the 30-day limit.
Sodemann said he was sure no one did anything inappropriate, but "it just looks funny."
Five people were interviewed, but none had all the qualifications, Sperry said. That's when Laue suggested Dye.
Dye brings considerable skills and experience to the job, and he could be a mentor to the new teachers, Sperry said.
Sodemann said the district could have found a suitable candidate if it hadn't delayed posting the position.
Board member Karl Dommershausen supported Dye's hiring, noting that school districts are competing like never before for talent.
"This is what competition looks like. We need to compete to hire the best teachers," Dommershausen said.
Sodemann asked about the possibility of hiring Dye at a lower salary. Sperry said Dye is not interested at working for less.
"This is a person who will get a job somewhere else," Sperry said.
Under questioning from Feldt, Sperry said Dye is a high performer but that there "probably are" other high-performing teachers who earn less than $75,000.
Board member David DiStefano said the board should not micro-manage salary levels.
Murray agreed with DiStefano but said that should not stop him from knowing the details.
The vote was 4-3 to hire Dye. Voting "no" were Feldt, Murray and Sodemann. Greg Ardrey and Deborah Schilling were absent.
Dye worked at Parker for 33 years, according to Gazette records. He was instructional manager for the math department for 13 years. He was head coach of boys track for 32 years and either assistant coach or head coach of the football team for 32 years. He was athletics director for two years.
Dye could not be reached for comment Tuesday night.


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