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Important unknown nanotech within humans
Discussion of all aspects of biological molecules, biochemical processes and laboratory procedures in the field.
Moderator: BioTeam
Hihihi, this is so absurd that it's getting hilarious. Dude, don't forget your tin foil hat!
But I have to give it to you: the day you manage to prove that cancer, alzheimer's, squint and bad hair day are all caused by nanotechnology, you really get to say "neener" to a whole lot of people :P
Once again you seem incapable of entering a discussion resorting to insults and words that carry a negative connotation.
you mention not an iota of the positive information i present,information which anyone can see is valid.you seem intent in portraying all presented as negative a bit strange no?, you are biased,illogical incapable of rational discussion,incapable of weighing simple facts that others can,therefore you are not able effectivly understand the scientific process.
i kinda get the impression you are acting the fool on purpose "hihihih" "dude" "neener"...that doesnt sound like you,you are lowering the tone of the overall discussion?,pretty obvious you are ,why?
so let me explain it real simple to you iron accumilation in the brain causes neurodegeneration.fact
alzhiemers is seen to be a neurodegnerative condition where iron accumilates in the brain,fact.
is the link not obvious?,what do you have to say about the link?,anything?,will you even aknowledge anything valid i say or are you intent on focusing and portraying only the negative like a rasping bushite politician?
Everything about alzhiemers points to an iron accumilation, technological pathogens have been proven to be destroying red blood cells that contain the majority of iron in the body,the link isnt between the nanotech and alzhiemers isnt concrete i admit but i know for a fact diseases are caused by nanotech FOR I HAVE CURED APPRARENT INCURABLE DISEASES MYSELF by targeting the nanotechnology.
simple as as that,with my own hands INCURABLE DISEASES.
now will you please enter a discussion just once,actually attempt to prove me wrong or right instead of resorting to well known and established trolling stratagems,the fact that you dont enter a discussion is evident you are incapable of it.
prove me wrong , the onus is one you.if you cant, stay silent and stick to your insults which are the hallmark of he who is incapable of intelligent discourse.
the fact that you use the phrase tin foil hat is a heavy indicator of your directive,for that phrase is suddenly being used worldwide as a method to discredit the truth.
im not a fan of conspiracy theory,but the worlds biggest conspiracy website which us widely known as a disinformation operation run by rumoroued sources and is pretty much promoting the whole tin foil hat term to describe its own users,theyve got a wiki page named tinwiki,which again exists to discredit the truth.
the website latest phrase is "10 years of tin",now everyone who looks learns the website is disinfo and rumours are abound as to whom is running it,it exists to discredit the truth,everything there is a lie.
the exact same tactics used their by professional disinformation networks you are using now.....a refusal to debate or even mention the evidence presented,a continual attack upon the reputation of the poster,catch phrases which carry negative connotations...its all been noted and many are becoming aware of it.
so use not discreditation tactics or insults, DEBATE THE EVIDENCE i present rationaly,how simple could it be for you?.
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so i took up your challenge of saying "neener" to alot of people and within about 10 mins of research theres a strong link between morgellons and iron neurodegeneration.....
firstly the iron seen in alzheimers is iron magnetite,
http://www.scientistlive.com/European-S ... des/19993/
there is also a mystery surrounding the source of that magnetite in humans given its scarcity in the animal kingdom and that it has no use in the human brain at all......
now its no surpise that such iron magnetite is usually seen in morgellons sufferers....often coming out the nasal cavity
here are some pictures of "black crystals/specks often seen in morgellons,they are magnetic and look identical to iron magnetite
http://126.96.36.199/search?q=cache:HYF ... cd=4&gl=uk
this what magnetite looks like
as you can see the substance is cleary magnetite,this magnetite is present in many sufferers and is refered to as "black specks" that often ooze out of the anus and nasal cavity,many sufferers have noted its magnetic nature.
here is search term already done for you bio to look up the black specks as you dont seem to like doing any,
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q= ... arch&meta=
so we have an abundance of iron magnetite in morgellons which accumilates in the brain and causes....neurodegneration.
..red blood cells as previously mentioned also are significantly lowered in morgellons.....and the iron is realeased into the blood stream and accumilates in the brain,neurodegeneration,
http://18.104.22.168/search?q=cache:a9o ... cd=1&gl=uk
it is no suprise that iron oxide is constantly seen in chemtrailing,another search term for you
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q= ... arch&meta=
once again we have another co incidence the ability of hydro sillica aerogels to produce iron magnetite nanoparticles!
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_o ... 4d9cfae81b
what is important in morgellons is of course that....cognitive abilties seem to wain and degenerate......
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q= ... arch&meta=
...Thus we have alot of highly suggestive and incriminating evidence do we not?,hmmmmm? i say the source of mystery iron magnetite in the human brain is caused by the hydro silica aerogel based nanotechnology system.
ahhhhhhh...it took me 10 mins to find all of that....
,give me a research team, a modest budget and hospital and ile prove and cure anything you want from cancer(ile leave that for later ) to hyperthyroidism.
its all about understanding the nanotech,then the worlds your mollusk!
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Ok, if you can't tell reputable sources from non, then don't post. Look on the frontpage of rense, it has conspiracy theories, banners from the raelians which if you remember pretended to clone someone and proposed they all be taken up by the mothership.
Here's the disclaimer from rense
The myriad of facts, conjecture, perspectives, viewpoints, opinions, analyses, and information in the articles, stories and commentaries posted on this site range from cutting edge hard news and comment to extreme and unusual perspectives. We choose not to sweep uncomfortable material under the rug - where it can grow and fester. We choose not to censor skewed logic and uncomfortable rhetoric. These things reflect the world as it now is - for better and worse. We present multiple facts, perspectives, viewpoints, opinions, analyses, and information.
This passage means, there is no fact checking, and you can make up pretty much any BS and be published. Where's the accountablility? Why do you think this site is reputable, or reliable in any way? What standards if any are you using?
I've already said what I believe what reputable sources are(journals etc), and I was even generous enough to give you leeway if you can explain how these alternative sources are reputable but you have not shown me anything to support this claim.
Same thing with carnicom. All I see is a bunch of pictures and videos, there are no journal entries or well ordered protocols. If he adhered to the scientific principles, why is he not published? There's thousands of journals and you're pretending to tell me that he got published in none of them even though he followed the scientific method? You're telling me that everyone is in on some policy and that there's no drug company greedy enough to jump on developing the next blockbuster drug?
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Okay, you got me there: I've been guilty of trolling (or at least feeding one?). I try to improve my behaviour from now on and keep my trap shut, just like I should've done in the first place. The mods removed two of your posts before I stupidly took the bait and commented on this thread, and now we're having this fight against windmills of pseudoscience (gee, how poetic!), which leads us nowhere.
So unless something actually important emerges in this thread, I try to be silent and not insult you any more. Be well.
Re: Important unknown nanotech within humans
here we go again.
mith you are confusing the host of the material with the source of material itself.
the information you are talking of regarding rense was not made or produced by rense IT IS HOSTED THERE amoungst several other places.
it is equivelant to saying "i will not accept the second law of thermodynamics because it is hosted on a cooking website"
the research contained on rense you refer to is that of doctor hildergard staninger whos research and methods are entirely valid and adhere to all known scientific principles and use the highest of laboratory facilities.her research i cite is presented in the mannor you require.
end of that discussion.
i dont see how you got the two muddled up...infact it astonished me!
clifford carnicom has done a decades worth of research into the aerosol phenomena and his reseach once again does include well ordered protocols etc,here take a look at some picked at random
an example of a lab report showing the constituiants of chemtrails
as you can see the accusation of it being "nothing but videos and pictures" is utterly based in the recesses of your imagination and is an utter distortion of reality,why are you so intent on portraying an alternate version of reality,its so obvious the opposite is true anyone can see that!.
all you are doing is refusing to discuss by citing invalid refusal aurguments,what are you afraid of?,the truth?.
ok lets start again,would care to discuss this research,it has everything you need and require no grounds for you to refuse at all.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=114071
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what planet are you living on?,you once again refuse to enter debate despite the fact ive asked you twice to discuss the alzhiemers iron link....which if you bothered to do any research or actually read what i posted is trure.
let me make it even easier for you.....not a report but a news report....
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 191530.htm
read it and understand what i say is entirely valid,not only is iron accumliation seen to be present in alzhiemers but also in parkinsons,isnt that a co incidence.
do have anything to say about that?...i doubt it...you are intentionally derailing...the only question is why?,you fear something...its obvious.
look terry pratchett has come out with a theory of how alzhimers is being caused by mercury dental fillings,how does he get headlines!,mine has infinitly more evidence and co incides with iron accumilation in other neurodegenerative diseases.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/ ... alzheimers
here is some links to how to professionaly derail and discredit threads.
first the definition
number one: attack the threads sources,sound familiar
two: attack the author,
3 appeal to higher authority,ie "protocols"(which were infact adhered too)
4: potray an alternate reality ie "its all images and videos"
5: changing the subject,ie not once discussing the arguments presented at all costs
6: the charecature,ie tinfoil etc
7.conflation ie pretending rense was the source of the information when infact it was merely the host,
8.projection,it was i who was accused of being disinformation!,ha!
lastly the most obvious a complete and utter refusal to enter any debate regarding the information presented no matter what!
now can we please get back to the original subject,if you have nothing to contribute ie either prove or disprove the information then stay out,otherwise you are JUST DISTRACTING FROM THE INFORMATION PRESENTED which i am getting damn suspiscious as anyone would is the intention!
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i mean the supression of health and biological based information kinda has a presidence......just this for example from a list of murdered or deceased scientists.....many in the field of health and many in extremly strange circumstances,ile qoute only the medical health related ones right?....
May 7, 1996: Tsunao Saitoh PhD, 46
—Expertise: He was professor of neurosciences at the University of California, San Diego. was an internationally respected researcher into the reasons for diseases such as Alzheimer's and had been doing ground-breaking research on the deformation of the amyloid brain protein (found in CJD and Alzheimer's).
—Circumstance of Death: He and his 13 year-old daughter were killed in La Jolla, California, in what a Reuters report described as a "very professionally done" shooting. He was dead behind the wheel of the car, the side window had been shot out, and the door was open. His daughter appeared to have tried to run away and she was shot dead, also.
alzhiemers eh?,a bit strange?
1988: Stanley Irving Sigal, 35
—Expertise: Top AIDS researcher at Merck's.
—Circumstance of Death: In seat number 13B on Pan American Flight that was shot down over Lockerbee Scotland.
1994/95?: Dr. Jawad Al Aubaidi
—Expertise: Veterinary mycoplasma and had worked with various mycoplasmas in the 1980s at Plum Island.
—Circumstance of Death: He was killed in his native Iraq while he was changing a flat tire and hit by a truck.
Source: Patricia A. Doyle, PhD
April 1996: Dr. Clive Bruton
—Expertise: He had just produced a paper on a new strain of CJD. He was a CJD specialist who was killed before his work was announced to the public. He had been publicly arguing that deaths from CJD were going unrecognised because it was assumed that Alzheimer disease – which has indistinguishable symptoms – was the cause.
—Circumstance of Death: He died in a car crash after an apparent heart attack.
hey another alzhiemers one.....
Dec 25, 1997: Sidney Harshman, 67
—Expertise: Professor of microbiology and immunology.
"He was the world's leading expert on staphylococcal alpha toxins," according to Conrad Wagner, professor of biochemistry at Vanderbilt and a close friend of Professor Harshman. "He also deeply cared for other people and was always eager to help his students and colleagues."
—Circumstance of Death: Complications of diabetes
July 10, 1998: Elizabeth A. Rich, M.D., 46
—Expertise: An associate professor with tenure in the pulmonary division of the Department of Medicine at CWRU and University Hospitals of Cleveland. She was also a member of the executive committee for the Center for AIDS Research and directed the biosafety level 3 facility, a specialized laboratory for the handling of HIV, virulent TB bacteria, and other infectious agents.
—Circumstance of Death: Killed in a traffic accident while visiting family in Tennessee
September 1998: Jonathan Mann, 51
—Expertise: Founding director of the World Health Organisation's global Aids programme and founded Project SIDA in Zaire, the most comprehensive Aids research effort in Africa at the time, and in 1986 he joined the WHO to lead the global response against Aids. He became director of WHO's global programme on Aids which later became the UNAids programme. He then became director of the Francois-Xavier Bagnoud Center for Health and Human Rights, which was set up at Harvard School of Public Health in 1993. He caused controversy earlier this year in the post when he accused the US National Institutes of Health of violating human rights by failing to act quickly on developing Aids vaccines.
—Circumstance of Death: Died in the Swissair Flight 111 crash in Canada.
March 2000: Larry C. Ford
—Expertise: Served as a consultant to both the CIA and the chemical and biological-weapons program of the South African Defense Forces, headed by Wouter Basson. His contributions to Basson's program included lectures on converting ordinary items into lethal biological weapons.
He provided samples of virulent, designer strains of cholera, anthrax, botulism, plague, and malaria, as well as a bacteria he claimed had been mutated to be "pigment specific" for the white minority government of South Africa.
—Circumstance of Death: Died of a shotgun blast at his home in Irvine, Orange County, California. His death was later ruled a suicide.
April 15, 2000: Walter W. Shervington, M.D., 62
—Expertise: An extensive writer/ lecturer/ researcher about mental health and AIDS in the African American community.
—Circumstance of Death: Died of cancer at Tulane Medical Hospital.
July 16, 2000: Mike Thomas, 35
—Expertise: A microbiologist at the Crestwood Medical Center in Huntsville.
—Circumstance of Death: Died a few days after examining a sample taken from a 12-year-old girl who was diagnosed with meningitis and survived.
November 19, 2000: Dr. Fred Knauert, 57
—Expertise: He was a civilian scientist who served the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) for 17 years.
—Circumstance of Death: Died suddenly at his home.
December 25, 2000: Linda Reese, 52
—Expertise: Microbiologist working with victims of meningitis.
—Circumstance of Death: Died three days after she studied a sample from Tricia Zailo, 19, a Fairfield, N.J., resident who was a sophomore at Michigan State University. Tricia Zailo died Dec. 18, a few days after she returned home for the holidays.
February 1, 2001: Dr. Shmuel Gillis, 42
—Expertise: A senior hemotologist at Hadassah Hospital Ein Kerem in Jerusalem who treated patients suffering from leukemia and lymphoma regardless of ethnic or religious orgin.
—Circumstance of Death: Killed by 11 gunshots fired from a passing car on a section of the Jerusalem-Hebron Highway.
February 16th, 2001: Dr Joe Gibbs, 76
—Expertise: An expert on neurological diseases who helped show that maladies like mad cow disease and scrapie are infectious rather than genetic.
—Circumstance of Death: Died of a heart attack while in a hospital in Washington
another neurodegerative disease....
March 2001: Dr. Trudy L. Bush, 52
—Expertise: Professor of epidemiology and preventive medicine at the University of Maryland School of Medicine whose work in the field of women's health brought her international acclaim.
—Circumstance of Death: Died of undetermined causes at her home.
May 7, 2001: Professor Janusz Jeljaszewicz
—Expertise: Expert in Staphylococci and Staphylococcal Infections. His main scientific interests and achievements were in the mechanism of action and biological properties of staphylococcal toxins, and included the immunomodulatory properties and experimental treatment of tumours by Propionibacterium.
November 2001: Yaacov Matzner, 54
—Expertise: Dean of the Hebrew University-Hadassah Medical School in Jerusalem and chairman of the Israel Society of Hematology and Blood Transfusions, was the son of Holocaust survivors. One of the world's experts on blood diseases including familiar Mediterranean fever (FMF), Matzner conducted research that led to a genetic test for FMF. He was working on cloning the gene connected to FMF and investigating the normal physiological function of amyloid A, a protein often found in high levels in people with blood cancer.
—Circumstance of Death: Professors Yaacov Matzner and Amiram Eldor were on their way back to Israel via Switzerland when their plane came down in dense forest three kilometres short of the landing field.
November 2001: Professor Amiram Eldor, 59
—Expertise: Head of the haematology institute, Tel Aviv's Ichilov Hospital and worked for years at Hadassah-University Hospital's haematology department but left for his native Tel Aviv in 1993 to head the haematology institute at Ichilov Hospital. He was an internationally known expert on blood clotting especially in women who had repeated miscarriages and was a member of a team that identified eight new anti-clotting agents in the saliva of leeches.
—Circumstance of Death: Professors Yaacov Matzner and Amiram Eldor were on their way back to Israel via Switzerland when their plane came down in dense forest three kilometres short of the landing field.
November 6, 2001: Jeffrey Paris Wall, 41
—Expertise: He was a biomedical expert who held a medical degree, and he also specialized in patent and intellectual property.
—Circumstance of Death: Mr. Walls body was found sprawled next to a three-story parking structure near his office. He had studied at the University of California, Los Angeles.
Nov. 16, 2001: Don C. Wiley, 57
—Expertise: One of the foremost microbiologists in the United States. Dr. Wiley, of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute at Harvard University, was an expert on how the immune system responds to viral attacks such as the classic doomsday plagues of HIV, ebola and influenza.
—Circumstance of Death: Police found his rental car on a bridge outside Memphis, Tenn. His body was found Dec. 20 in the Mississippi River.
Nov. 21, 2001: Vladimir Pasechnik, 64
—Expertise: World-class microbiologist and high-profile Russian defector; defected to the United Kingdom in 1989, played a huge role in Russian biowarfare and helped to figure out how to modify cruise missiles to deliver the agents of mass biological destruction.
—Background: founded Regma Biotechnologies company in Britain, a laboratory at Porton Down, the country´s chem-bio warfare defense establishment. Regma currently has a contract with the U.S. Navy for "the diagnostic and therapeutic treatment of anthrax".
—Circumstance of Death: The pathologist who did the autopsy, and who also happened to be associated with Britain´s spy agency, concluded he died of a stroke. Details of the postmortem were not revealed at an inquest, in which the press was given no prior notice. Colleagues who had worked with Pasechnik said he was in good health.
Dec. 10, 2001: Robert M. Schwartz, 57
—Expertise: Expert in DNA sequencing and pathogenic micro-organisms, founding member of the Virginia Biotechnology Association, and the Executive Director of Research and Development at Virginia´s Center for Innovative Technology in Herndon.
—Circumstance of Death: stabbed and slashed with what police believe was a sword in his farmhouse in Leesberg, Va. His daughter, who identifies herself as a pagan high priestess, and several of her fellow pagans have been charged.
Dec. 14, 2001: Nguyen Van Set, 44
—Expertise: animal diseases facility of the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization had just come to fame for discovering a virulent strain of mousepox, which could be modified to affect smallpox.
—Circumstance of Death: died at work in Geelong, Australia, in a laboratory accident. He entered an airlocked storage lab and died from exposure to nitrogen.
January 2002: Ivan Glebov and Alexi Brushlinski.
—Expertise: Two microbiologists. Both were well known around the world and members of the Russian Academy of Science.
—Circumstance of Death: Glebov died as the result of a bandit attack and Brushlinski was killed in Moscow.
January 5, 2002: Dr. Graham Ryder, 52
—Expertise: A Staff Scientist at USRA's Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston who was a premier lunar scientist that pioneered many of our most important concepts about the Moon and its evolution.
—Circumstance of Death: Died suddenly from cancer.
January 28, 2002: David W. Barry, 58
—Expertise: Scientist who codiscovered AZT, the antiviral drug that is considered the first effective treatment for AIDS.
—Circumstance of Death: unknown
Feb. 9, 2002: Victor Korshunov, 56
—Expertise: Expert in intestinal bacteria of children around the world
—Circumstance of Death: bashed over the head near his home in Moscow.
Feb. 14, 2002: Ian Langford, 40
—Expertise: expert in environmental risks and disease.
—Circumstance of Death: found dead in his home near Norwich, England, naked from the waist down and wedged under a chair.
Feb. 28, 2002: Tanya Holzmayer, 46
—Expertise: a Russian who moved to the U.S. in 1989, focused on the part of the human molecular structure that could be affected best by medicine.
—Circumstance of Death: killed by fellow microbiologist Guyang (Matthew) Huang, who shot her seven times when she opened the door to a pizza delivery. Then he shot himself.
Feb. 28, 2002: Guyang Huang, 38
—Expertise: Microbiologist
—Circumstance of Death: Apparently shot himself after shooting fellow microbiologist, Tanya Holzmayer, seven times.
March 24, 2002: David Wynn-Williams, 55
—Expertise: Respected astrobiologist with the British Antarctic Survey, who studied the habits of microbes that might survive in outer space.
—Circumstance of Death: Died in a freak road accident near his home in Cambridge, England. He was hit by a car while he was jogging.
March 25, 2002: Steven Mostow, 63
—Expertise: Known as "Dr. Flu" for his expertise in treating influenza, and a noted expert in bioterrorism of the Colorado Health Sciences Centre.
—Circumstance of Death: died when the airplane he was piloting crashed near Denver.
August 05, 2002: David R. Knibbs, PhD., 49
—Expertise: Director of Electron Microscopy at Hartford Hospital and had a doctorate in pathobiology from the University of Connecticut. He also served as an adjunct faculty member at the University of Hartford.
—Circumstance of Death: He collapsed and died after an evening
run (one of his joys in life).
Nov. 12, 2002: Benito Que, 52
—Expertise: Expert in infectious diseases and cellular biology at the Miami Medical School
—Circumstance of Death: Que left his laboratory after receiving a telephone call. Shortly afterward he was found comatose in the parking lot of the Miami Medical School. He died without regaining consciousness. Police said he had suffered a heart attack. His family insisted he had been in perfect health and claimed four men attacked him. But, later, oddly, the family inquest returned a verdict of death by natural causes.
April 2003: Carlo Urbani, 46
—Expertise: A dedicated and internationally respected Italian epidemiologist, who did work of enduring value combating infectious illness around the world.
—Circumstance of Death: Died in Bangkok from SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) – the new disease that he had helped to identify. Thanks to his prompt action, the epidemic was contained in Vietnam. However, because of close daily contact with SARS patients, he contracted the infection. On March 11, he was admitted to a hospital in Bangkok and isolated. Less than three weeks later he died.
June 24, 2003: Dr. Leland Rickman of UCSD, 47
—Expertise: An expert in infectious disease who helped the county prepare to fight bioterrorism after Sept. 11.
—Circumstance of Death: He was in the African nation of Lesotho with Dr. Chris Mathews of UCSD, the director of the university's Owen Clinic for AIDS patients. Dr. Rickman had complained of a headache and had gone to lie down. When he didn't appear for dinner, Mathews checked on him and found him dead. A cause has not yet been determined.
July 18, 2003: Dr. David Kelly, 59
—Expertise: Biological warfare weapons specialist, senior post at the Ministry of Defense, an expert on DNA sequencing when he was head of microbiology at Porton Down and worked with two American scientists, Benito Que, 52, and Don Wiley, 57.
—Helped Vladimir Pasechnik found Regma Biotechnologies, which has a contract with the U.S. Navy for "the diagnostic and therapeutic treatment of anthrax"
—Circumstance of Death: He was found dead after allegedly slashing his wrists and throat and then dragging himself a half mile away in a wooded area near his home at Southmoor, Oxfordshire while he was out for his regular walk.
Oct 11, 2003: Michael Perich, 46
—Expertise: LSU professor who helped fight the spread of the West Nile virus. Perich worked with the East Baton Rouge Parish Mosquito Control and Rodent Abatement District to determine whether mosquitoes in the area carried West Nile.
—Circumstance of Death: Walker Police Chief Elton Burns said Sunday that Perich of 5227 River Bend Blvd., Baton Rouge, crashed his Ford pickup truck about 4:30 a.m. Saturday, while heading west on Interstate 12 in Livingston Parish. Perich's truck veered right off the highway about 3 miles east of Walker, flipped and landed in rainwater, Burns said. Perich, who was wearing his seat belt, drowned. The cause of the crash is under investigation, Burns said.
"Mike is one of the few entomologists with the experience to go out and save lives today."
~ Robert A. Wirtz, chief of entomology at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
November 22, 2003: Robert Leslie Burghoff, 45
—Expertise: He was studying the virus that was plaguing cruise ships until he was killed by a mysterious white van in November of 2003
—Circumstance of Death: Burghoff was walking on a sidewalk along the 1600 block of South Braeswood when a white van jumped the curb and hit him at 1:35 p.m. Thursday, police said. The van then sped away. Burghoff died an hour later at Memorial Hermann Hospital.
December 18, 2003: Robert Aranosia, 61
—Expertise: Oakland County deputy medical examiner
—Circumstance of Death: He was driving south on I-75 when his pickup truck went off the freeway near a bridge over the Kawkawlin River. The vehicle rolled over several times before landing in the median. Aranosia was thrown from the vehicle and ended up on the shoulder of the northbound lanes.
January 6, 2004: Dr Richard Stevens, 54
—Expertise: A haematologist. (Haematologists analyse the cellular composition of blood and blood producing tissues eg bone marrow)
—Circumstance of Death: Disappeared after arriving for work on 21 July, 2003. A doctor whose disappearance sparked a national manhunt, killed himself because he could not cope with the stress of a secret affair, a coroner has ruled.
January 23 2004: Dr. Robert E. Shope, 74
—Expertise: One of the world's top experts on viruses and infectious illnesses who was the principal author of a highly publicized 1992 report by the National Academy of Sciences warning of the possible emergence of new and unsettling infectious illnesses. He had accumulated his own collection of virus samples gathered from all over the world and worked on a Defense Department project to develop antidotes to viral agents that terrorists might use.
—Circumstance of Death: The cause was complications of a lung transplant he received in December, said his daughter Deborah Shope of Galveston. Dr. Shope had pulmonary fibrosis, a disease of unknown origin that scars the lungs.
January 24 2004: Dr. Michael Patrick Kiley, 62
—Expertise: One of the world's leading microbiologists and an expert in developing and overseeing multiple levels of biocontainment facilities. He was at the forefront in the early studies of Lassa fever, the Ebola virus and mad cow disease while at the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, Ga.
—Circumstance of Death: Died of massive heart attack. Coincidently, both Dr. Shope and Dr. Kiley were working on the lab upgrade to BSL 4 at the UTMB Galvaston lab for Homeland Security. The lab would have to be secure to house some of the deadliest pathogens of tropical and emerging infectious disease as well as bioweaponized ones.
March 13, 2004: Vadake Srinivasan
—Expertise: Was one of the most-accomplished and respected industrial biologists in academia, and held two doctorate degrees.
—Circumstance of Death: He died in a mysterious single car accident in Baton Rouge, La. Crashed car into a guard rail and ruled a stroke.
April 12, 2004: Ilsley Ingram, 84
—Expertise: Director of the Supraregional Haemophilia Reference Centre and the Supraregional Centre for the Diagnosis of Bleeding Disorders at the St. Thomas Hospital in London.
—Circumstance of Death: unknown
May 5, 2004: William T. McGuire, 39
—Expertise: NJ University Professor and Senior programmer analyst and adjunct professor at the New Jersey Institute of Technology in Newark.
—Circumstance of Death: His dismembered body was found floating in three suitcases in the Chesapeake Bay.
May 14, 2004: Dr. Eugene F. Mallove, 56
—Expertise: Mallove was well respected for his knowledge of cold fusion. He had just published an open letter outlining the results of and reasons for his last 15 years in the field of new energy research. Dr. Mallove was convinced it was only a matter of months before the world would actually see a free energy device.
—Circumstance of Death: Died after being beaten to death during an alleged robbery.
May 25, 2004: Antonina Presnyakova
—Expertise: Former Soviet biological weapons laboratory in Siberia —Circumstance of Death: Died after accidentally sticking herself with a needle laced with Ebola.
June 22, 2004: Thomas Gold, 84
—Expertise: He was the founder, and for twenty years the director, of the Cornell Center for Radiophysics and Space Research, where he was a close colleague of Planetary Society co-founder Carl Sagan. Gold was famous for his provocative, controversial, and sometimes outrageous theories. Gold's theory of the deep hot biosphere holds important ramifications for the possibility of life on other planets, including seemingly inhospitable planets within our own solar system. Gold sparked controversy in 1955 when he suggested that the Moon's surface is covered with a fine rock powder.
—Circumstance of Death: Died of heart failure.
June 24, 2004: Dr. Assefa Tulu, 45
—Expertise: Dr. Tulu joined the health department in 1997 and served for five years as the county's lone epidemiologist. He was charged with tracking the health of the county, including the spread of diseases, such as syphilis, AIDS and measles. He also designed a system for detecting a bioterrorism attack involving viruses or bacterial agents. Tulu often coordinated efforts to address major health concerns in Dallas County, such as the West Nile virus outbreaks of the past few years, and worked with the media to inform the public.
—Circumstance of Death: Dallas County's chief epidemiologist, was found at his desk, died of a stroke.
June 27, 2004: Dr Paul Norman, Of Salisbury, Wiltshire, 52
—Expertise: He was the chief scientist for chemical and biological defence at the Ministry of Defence's laboratory at Porton Down, Wiltshire. He travelled the world lecturing on the subject of weapons of mass destruction.
—Circumstance of Death: Died when the Cessna 206 crashed shortly after taking off from Dunkeswell Airfield on Sunday. A father and daughter also died at the scene, and 44-year-old parachute instructor and Royal Marine Major Mike Wills later died in the hospital.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wilt ... 860995.stm
June 29, 2004: John Mullen, 67
—Expertise: A nuclear research scientist with McDonnell Douglas.
—Circumstance of Death: Died from a huge dose of poisonous arsenic.
(Note: McDonnell Douglas did not exist in 2004. It merged with Boeing in 1997.)
July 1, 2004: Edward Hoffman, 62
—Expertise: Aside from his role as a professor, Hoffman held leadership positions within the UCLA medical community. Worked to develop the first human PET scanner in 1973 at Washington University in St. Louis.
—Circumstance of Death: unknown
July 2, 2004: Larry Bustard, 53
—Expertise: A Sandia scientist who helped develop a foam spray to clean up congressional buildings and media sites during the anthrax scare in 2001. Worked at Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque. His team came up with a new technology used against biological and chemical agents.
—Circumstance of Death: unknown
July 6, 2004: Stephen Tabet, 42
—Expertise: An associate professor and epidemiologist at the University of Washington. A world-renowned HIV doctor and researcher who worked with HIV patients in a vaccine clinical trial for the HIV Vaccine Trials Network.
—Circumstance of Death: Died of an unknown illness
July 21, 2004: Dr Bassem al-Mudares
—Expertise: He was a phD chemist
—Circumstance of Death: His mutilated body was found in the city of Samarra, Iraq and had been tortured before being killed.
July 21, 2004: Dr. John Badwey 54
—Expertise: Scientist and accidental politician when he opposed disposal of sewage waste program of exposing humans to sludge. Biochemist at Harvard Medical School specializing in infectious diseases.
—Circumstance of Death: Suddenly developed pneumonia like symptoms then died in two weeks.
August 12, 2004: Professor John Clark
—Expertise: Head of the science lab which created Dolly the sheep. Prof Clark led the Roslin Institute in Midlothian, one of the world's leading animal biotechnology research centres. He played a crucial role in creating the transgenic sheep that earned the institute worldwide fame.
—Circumstance of Death: He was found hanging in his holiday home.
September 5, 2004: Mohammed Toki Hussein al-Talakani, 40
—Expertise: Iraqi nuclear scientist. He was a practising nuclear physicist since 1984.
—Circumstance of Death: He was shot dead in Mahmudiya, south of Baghdad.
September 27, 2004: Dr. John E. Mack, 74
—Expertise: Professor John E Mack was an eminent Harvard psychiatrist, psychoanalyst and Pulitzer Prize winner who turned the academic community upside down because he wanted to publish his research in which he said that people who claimed they had been abducted by aliens, were not crazy at all.
—Circumstance of Death: While traveling on foot in North London from the tube station, he was struck by an alleged drunk driver.
The Author of "Abduction" and "Passport to the Cosmos: Human Transformation and Alien Encounters"
October 13, 2004: Matthew Allison, 32
—Expertise: (please help provide information – thank you MJH)
—Circumstance of Death: Fatal explosion of a car parked at an Osceola County, Fla., Wal-Mart store was no accident, Local 6 News has learned. Found inside a burned car. Witnesses said the man left the store at about 11 p.m. and entered his Ford Taurus car when it exploded. Investigators said they found a Duraflame log and propane canisters on the front passenger's seat.
November 2, 2004: John R. La Montagne
—Expertise: Head of US Infectious Diseases unit under Tommie Thompson. Was NIAID Deputy Director.
—Circumstance of Death: Died while in Mexico, no cause stated.
December 21, 2004: Taleb Ibrahim al-Daher
—Expertise: Iraqi nuclear scientist
—Circumstance of Death: He was shot dead north of Baghdad by unknown gunmen. He was on his way to work at Diyala University when armed men opened fire on his car as it was crossing a bridge in Baqouba, 57 km northeast of Baghdad. The vehicle swerved off the bridge and fell into the Khrisan river. Al-Daher, who was a professor at the local university, was removed from the submerged car and rushed to Baqouba hospital where he was pronounced dead
December 29, 2004: Tom Thorne and Beth Williams
—Expertise: Two wild life scientists, Husband-and-wife wildlife veterinarians who were nationally prominent experts on chronic wasting disease and brucellosis
—Circumstance of Death: They were killed in a snowy-weather crash on U.S. 287 in northern Colorado.
January 7, 2005: Jeong H. Im, 72
—Expertise: A retired research assistant professor at the University of Missouri-Columbia. Primarily a protein chemist.
—Circumstance of Death: He was stabbed several times and his body was found in the trunk of his burning white, 1995 Honda inside the Maryland Avenue parking garage.
January 24, 2005: Roger L. Blair, 54
—Expertise: He worked for the Kennedy Space center as a micro-biologist and most recently for Wuesthoff Medical Center as a Medical Laboratory Technician.
—Circumstance of Death: Died suddenly
February 8, 2005: Geetha Angara, 43
—Expertise: She was a senior chemist with a doctorate from New York University.
—Circumstance of Death: Divers found her body in a 35-foot-deep water treatment tank where she was doing water quality tests at the Passaic Valley Water Commission plant in Totowa.
March 11, 2005: Hiram Graybill Daniel Jr., 61
—Expertise: For 36 years, his day job was working as an epidemiologist for the Georgia Department of Community Health, combating sexually transmitted diseases.
—Circumstance of Death: Died as a result of injuries sustained in an automobile accident
March 29, 2005: Professor Carlos Hormaeche, 64
—Expertise: A leading international expert in microbiology and vaccine
development. From 1994 to 2002, he was professor and head of the microbiology department at Newcastle University.
—Circumstance of Death: Died in a microlight aeroplane accident in
April 5, 2005: Barbara Kalow, 45
—Expertise: A FEDERAL government veterinary scientist and was a researcher before being hired by the feds in 1992 as a meat inspector.
She then moved to veterinary biologics and was promoted to the science branch to advise on animal health issues.
—Circumstance of Death: She died of asphyxiation after being smothered by a pillow in her hotel room while on vacation in Arizona.
Aril 18, 2005: Douglas Passaro, 43
—Expertise: He was an associate professor of epidemiology at the University of Illinois at Chicago School of Public Health and had been an outbreak investigator with the Epidemic Intelligence Service for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention before completing an Infectious Diseases Fellowship at Stanford University in 2001.
—Circumstance of Death: Died suddenly at his Oak Park home.
May 8, 2005: David Banks, 55
—Expertise: He was the principal scientist with Biosecurity Australia and was involved in containing pest and disease threats. His primary mission was protecting livestock and plants in the country, and keeping diseases from crossing into Australia. He was an expert in the propagation of diseases by insect vectors, among other things.
—Circumstance of Death: He died along with 15 other people when the commuter plane he was traveling in went down in Queensland, Australia.
May 20, 2005: Robert J. Lull, 64
—Expertise: A prominent physician at San Francisco General Hospital who once headed the San Francisco Medical Society. Lull focused on improvements in diagnosis and treatment of thyroid cancer. Lull was a highly revered expert in the field of nuclear medicine, a specialty that performs diagnostic screens such as bone scans for cancer patients. Last year, Lull lectured in San Francisco about the threat of nuclear terrorism.
—Circumstance of Death: He was found stabbed to death inside the doorway of his Diamond Heights home.
June 7, 2005: Leonid Strachunsky (age unknown)
—Expertise: World Health Organization expert and director of the Anti-Microbe Therapy Research Institute who specialized in creating microbes resistant to biological weapons, to the hepatitis outbreak.
—Circumstance of Death: He was found dead in his hotel room in Moscow, where he came from Smolensk en route to the United States. He had been hit on the head with a champagne bottle, and some of his possessions were missing.
Date?: Dr. C. Bruton
--Expertise: He had just produced a paper on a new strain of CJD. He was a CJD specialist who was killed before his work was announced to the public.
--Circumstance of Death: died in a car crash.
alot of bloodwork based scientists there no?,infectious diseases?,micro biologists?
theres been a new one in the last few days
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=85 ... id=3510203
probably no protocols being used yeah?,so we can just dismiss it and everythings hunky dory!
Re: Important unknown nanotech within humans
I must admit I am not very surprised but I spend some time on those website you linked to in the first post and i can only say that I am definitely not convinced that there is anything of value.
A few things that cast more than a doubt on the validity on the results:
-Sample collection are not very well described and do not provide any insight on how cross contamination is avoided. I read a paper where samples collected in non sterile bag without any precautions are analyzed at high magnification.
- There is a complete absence of use of controls to ascertain that what is reported is real and not an artifact.
- In fact I really suspect that artifacts must be there because when I see some of the information on the microscope picture I cannot help doubting that whoever took those picture did know very little about microscopy. Magnification above 5000x in optical microscopy? Simultaneous use of epi-illumination and trans-illumination? This is beyond ridiculous.
So this kind of shoddy 'experimental results' cast more than a shadow of doubt on all the rest of the experiments that you are presenting. In fact considering the history of Morgellon 'science' on this website I do not think that you will convince anyone of anything.
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any proof. (Ashley Montague)
You make the point of the second law being cited in a cooking book as being the same as your article being in rense.
However, the authority of and acceptance of the second law is not dependent on the cooking book because it is already in other scientific and reputable journals. However, the rense article is only in rense. If the second law was something I've only seen in Martha Stewart's living, I would be very suspicious of it.
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Re: Important unknown nanotech within humans
your just nit picking,i mean your the mod who deleted this thread straight away without expanation are you not?
cross contamination is not an issue because your not likely to "contaminate" the sample with higly advanced nanotechnology are you?,
it was only the initial sample of the chemtrails which was as you describe and its kinda impossible for such a sample to become contaminated with extremly advanced nanotech isnt it?the nanotechnological fibres were what was found in the results.
anyway the results of that sample( nanotechnological fibres) have been proven countless times,not a problem.
you also use a logical phalicy there,you describe how a chemtrail sample was taken in methods not up to your standard(by a civilian)and then you try to expand that to the rest of the experimental data and procedure done by the scientists,you can do that it is the equivelent of saying "joe bloggs ran a 20. sec race therefore all his subsequent races were at 10 seconds".
there is also is a phallacy of the sample was collected by a civillian and sent to the scientists,the civilian was at fualt not the scientific procedure which followed which includes many many experiments not involved with that one civillian sample you are attempting to portray as the standard of the whole.
and any such fualts which may have resulted out of the civillians fault are void as once again you cant contaminate a sample with such nanotech
microscopy..nit picking looking for any flaw ya can,
Simultaneous use of epi-illumination and trans-illumination....here you go a search
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&ei ... on&spell=1
not a problem,
5000x optical magnification......can be done easily with the advent of digital micro scopy....didnt you know>?,look ive done the search for you
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q= ... arch&meta=
beyond ridiculous?,nope it is you who lack the knowledge of microscopy
so basicly there were no "shoddy" experimental procedures, you are just trying to portray them as such to undermine the data.
once again no argument or attempt to rationalize,discuss or weigh the conclusions and argument just an attempt to undermine it by attacking the sources.
anyone who actually researched morgellons realises it is real and based upon technology,how you come to such an alternate conclusion is beyond me.
anyway today i discovered a website apparently dedicated to finding the truth about morgellons named "lymebusters"(neurolinguistic assosciation to smear it as lyme disease) is actually run by ...nasa and their disinformation agents who are my best of "friends" at the moment.
if their is nothing in it why is nasa running a disinfo website about it trying to smear it as lyme disease??
and why is nanobot is a censored word on another morg;s website morgellons sanctum?,thats right its censored there...i was banned for merely mentioning that fact......strange huh?,covering up nothing eh?
was banned again under a different account with hidden ip for suggesting a women sufferer go for an ultrasound scan......as the silica aerogel is optically transparent....ummmm hmm.
Last edited by vincio on Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
information pertaining to morgellons is in multiple sources not just rense.
how is it possible to get morgellons into "reputable journals" when morgellons is being ignored and supressed heavily and that is the truth....though there was an article in the new scientist i saw about it not so long ago heres the link....oh wait the articles been deleted!!(now thats a big suprise!!).....ile have to post the cache
http://184.108.40.206/search?q=cache:Gsa ... cd=1&gl=uk
the same issue of new scientist also includes other medical mysteries such as chimerical heritage syndrome,that is where a persons dna suddenly changes out of the blue and they are no longer related to thier family members.whAts goIng on with that!?
reputable is also a matter of opinion and dogma is it not?,reputable has usually proven to be wrong in the future hAsnt It?,for thousands of years the status qou has always been changed with scientific evolution,to which the establishment has always taken the path of denial of new ideas as they are a threat to the purveyors of status reputaion.
string theory for example was first formulated in the 50's by a little old man,ignored and laughed at,decades later rediscovered and lauded as the truth....despite the fact there is no evidence whatsover for string theory......first they laugh at it then promote it without any evidence,whats going on?
reputation means nothing,its just prejudice.
anyway time to get back to the discussion...oh wait i would like to thank canalon for at least entering some kind of discussion in regards to talk of the procedures.....A step In the rIght direction eh aye?!,keep it up in the Future
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For more than 200 years, the Fourth Amendment has prohibited illegal search and seizure, but the world is a lot different now than it was in the 18th century. In a world of high technology and a high awareness of terrorist threats, governments and citizens have been forced to reassess the definition of privacy.
This was the topic at hand when Brad Smith, general counsel and executive vice president, legal and corporate affairs, at Microsoft, spoke at a panel called "The Future of Privacy" at New York University.
The first question that must be asked, according to Smith, is "Will we continue to live in a society where the government must have probably cause?" The question relates to matters of bulk collection. Now that Big Data analytics provide so many opportunities to get information from emails and other databases and searching that information for connections, can there be true transparency anymore?
Smith spoke at length about the government's surveillance, noting that Microsoft was finally able to reveal information about data the government had collected from the company. He also spoke about Microsoft's interactions with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Acts (FISA) courts, which meet in secret, to provide opinions and authorize the collection of sensitive information, stating that it was difficult for lawyers to respond to documents where entire pages were redacted.
While the White House emphasizes the fact that it is only looking at information about foreigners, Smith notes that, as an international company, Microsoft's customers hail from around the world. So the company has focused on protecting its data, working on encryption, inspecting code and working legal protections into contracts. Smith stated his support for new international laws that can help protect enterprises around the world.
Another issue that Smith noted was that there are cross-border concerns. U.S. law focuses a great deal on the relationship between the government and citizens, while European Union law is concerned with the relationship between companies and customers.
The next question Smith posed was whether or not people care. In the next installment of this series, we'll discuss the new paradigm of privacy in a high-tech world.
In the meantime, check out the following privacy-related stories:
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This is the second installment in the six-part series (Part 1) regarding new rules that the United States Department of Treasury and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) issued for the enforcement of the information reporting provisions for insurers and certain employers under the Affordable Care Act (ACA).
The ACA will begin to be enforced in 2015. The government will use reports from providers of minimum essential coverage and applicable large employers to enforce the individual and employer mandates, and to administer premium tax credits. When health insurers and plan sponsors file taxpayer information with the IRS, they must also provide a copy to the taxpayer, along with the health insurers' and/or plan sponsors' own contact information (name, address and phone number). The information from health insurers will enable taxpayers and the IRS to verify whether taxpayers were provided minimum essential coverage during the tax year. The coverage reports from providers of minimum essential coverage and from applicable large employers (generally employers with 50 or more full-time or full-time equivalent employees in the prior year determined on a controlled group basis) are required under the Internal Revenue Code (IRC), Section 6055.
Simplified option for employer reporting
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- A qualifying offer is an offer of minimum value coverage that provides employee-only coverage at a cost to the employee of no more than approximately $1,100 in 2015 (9.5 percent of the Federal Poverty Level), combined with an offer of coverage for the employee's family.
- For employees who receive qualifying offers for all 12 months of the year, employers are required to report only the names, addresses and taxpayer identification numbers (TINs) of those employees and a declaration that the employees received a full-year qualifying offer. Employers will also give the employees a copy of the simplified report or a standard statement indicating that the employee received a full-year qualifying offer.
- For employees who receive a qualifying offer for fewer than all 12 months of the year, employers will be able to simplify reporting to the IRS and to employees for each of those months by entering a code indicating that the qualifying offer was made.
- To provide for a phase-in of the simplified option, employers certifying that they have made a qualifying offer to at least 95 percent of their full-time employees (plus an offer to the employees' families) will be able to use an even simpler alternative reporting method for 2015. Those employers may use the simplified, streamlined reporting method for their entire workforce, including any employees who do not receive a qualifying offer for the full year. Those employers will provide employees with standard statements relating to the employees' possible eligibility for premium tax credits.
- The final regulations grant employers the option of not identifying in the report which of its employees are full-time. Instead, employers may simply include those employees who may be full-time. To take advantage of this option, the employer must certify that it offered affordable, minimum value coverage to at least 98 percent of the employees about whom it is reporting.
Reporting requirements take-aways
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City struggles with Panera intersection
JANESVILLE--City Engineer Mike Payne said he doesn't think any businesses affected by suggested traffic changes at Lodge Drive and Milton Avenue are happy with city proposals.
So staff recommended that the council wait until September to weigh in on improvements suggested by a traffic consultant hired by the city. The council will consider the request Monday.
"The purpose of the delay would be to give the businesses in the area time to explore alternative options that would improve the safety of the intersection of the frontage road while maintaining the access options provided by the existing frontage road," Payne said in a memo to council members.
The city wants to improve traffic flow at the troubled intersection, especially in light of a decision by Panera Bread to open later this year at the former Ground Round site.
Recommendations include:
--Changing the traffic along the frontage road in front of Toys "R" Us to one way;
--Restricting southbound traffic from Panera Bread from turning left onto Milton Avenue or going straight.
Representatives from Toys "R" Us, Culver's and Lions Quick Mart all have said they oppose the changes. Speakers at several committee meetings predicted that northbound traffic would cut through the Toys "R" Us parking lot and that other access points to businesses would be restricted.
Toys "R" Us has hired a firm to develop design plans for relocating the frontage road in front of its building, staff recently learned.
Janesville frontage roads were built too close to Milton Avenue and have caused problems for years. The city has chosen to fix the problems as redevelopment occurs.
This segment of the frontage road is more difficult because Panera Bread does not own the property where the fix must occur.


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DR's Pena showing world his managing skills
By Tracy Ringolsby / MLB.com
MIAMI -- Tony Pena is perfectly happy in his role as bench coach for the New York Yankees.
If any Major League team is interested, however, Pena would like a second chance to manage in the big leagues.
"I have my job to do," said Pena, the manager of the Dominican Republic in the World Baseball Classic. "I am the bench coach of the New Yankees. That's my focus."
Pena smiled.
"If I tell you that I don't want to be a manager, I'd lie," he admitted, "but I'm not doing this to show the world what type of manager I am."
For those who are looking, however, Pena and the Dominican Republic team have certainly put on a show in the first two rounds of the World Baseball Classic.
With a 2-0 victory against Puerto Rico at Marlins Park on Saturday afternoon, the Dominican Republic heads into the semifinals against the Kingdom of the Netherlands at AT&T Park on Monday night looking to become the first team to go all the way through a Classic without losing a game.
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No other country, in fact, has even gotten through the first two rounds in a previous Classic undefeated.
This spring, the Dominican Republic swept through an opening round in Puerto Rico with wins over Venezuela, Spain and Puerto Rico by a combined margin of 19-8.
Then came the second round, in which the Dominican Republic was tested, but passed, beating Italy, 5-4; Team USA, 3-1; and Puerto Rico on Saturday in what was a rematch from the Round 1 finale in San Juan.
Now it's off to San Francisco, where the Dominican Republic will be looking for two more wins.
First, there is a chance for a bit of revenge against the Dutch, who knocked the Dominican Republic out of the inaugural Classic in 2009 with a pair of first-round victories.
"What is in the past is in the past," said Pena. "We are not thinking of the past. We are thinking of the present. Whatever happened happened. Many of these [players] who are now here were not here [in 2009]."
Japan, which plays Puerto Rico in the semifinal game on Sunday, has won the two previous Classics, but Japan did lose games in each of the first two rounds in 2006 and 2009. And this year, Japan arrived in San Francisco for the semifinals with a 5-1 record, having lost a 6-3 game to Cuba in the opening round.
It is the challenge in San Francisco, and what a Classic championship would mean for his homeland, that has Pena's attention, and nothing more.
"I'm doing this because it is my passion, my love for my country," he said. "When I watch that flag wave, that means more than everything that God, the Father, has given me, because my roots are there and we are representing our countries. I'm not [managing] to get another job, because I already have my own [as a Yankees coach]."
Pena and the Dominican players are certainly making their country proud, and they are having a good time doing it, from the dugout eruptions each time a Dominican run is scored to the imaginary shooting of the bow and arrow when Fernando Rodney closes out a victory. And Rodney did that on Saturday for the fifth time in the six Dominican Classic victories.
"You cannot play baseball without freedom," Pena said of his loose managerial style. "You have to have freedom to do whatever you want on the field, provided you don't break the rules of the game.
"My players, none of them are breaking the rules of the game. What they are simply doing is enjoying what they love, what they like to do, and I'm not going to stop it. This is meant to be enjoyed, and they are enjoying it."
Pena is enjoying it, too.
His one managerial opportunity was with a Kansas City franchise that has been going through hard times. In 2003, his second year, the Royals were in first place in midseason and finished with an 83-79 record. That's their only winning record in the last 18 seasons.
They, however, slipped to 58-104 in 2004, and when the Royals lost 25 of their first 33 games in 2005, Pena, who was dealing with some personal matters as well as the on-field struggles, stepped down.
He wasn't in uniform again until he joined the Yankees' coaching staff, initially as a first-base coach, in 2006.
Pena has only had two managerial interviews since he left Kansas City. The Yankees talked to him after the 2007 season, but hired Joe Girardi instead, and last fall, he was a candidate to replace Bobby Valentine in Boston. The Red Sox, however, hired their former pitching coach, John Farrell, who spent the two previous years managing Toronto.
It says something about Pena, however, that Girardi not only would keep him on his staff, but after having Pena continue as the first-base coach in 2008, Girardi moved him into the role of bench coach in 2009.
It's a job Pena likes.
But it's apparent he also would like a second chance at a big league managerial job.
Tracy Ringolsby is a columnist for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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GC Appointments
Edward Lazarus is now general counsel of the Tribune Co. From 2009 to February 2012, Lazarus served as chief of staff at the Federal Communications Commission, where he oversaw policy development. Lazarus previously was a partner at Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld—where he chaired the firm's national litigation steering committee—and a federal prosecutor in Los Angeles.
Chrysler Group named Marjorie Loeb senior vice president, general counsel and secretary. Loeb previously spent two years as an assistant general counsel for the auto company. Before joining Chrysler, she was assistant general counsel and secretary for corporate securities at Delphi Automotive Systems and a principal at the law firm of Miro Weiner & Kramer. She replaces outgoing GC Holly Leese, who is retiring after 33 years with the company.
Anne Troutman was appointed general counsel of the U.S. Department of Energy's Brookhaven National Laboratory. Troutman joined the lab in March 2010 as deputy general counsel. Her prior work experience includes stints at General Electric Co., Arthur D. Little and the Battelle Memorial Institute.
Independent futures brokerage R.J. O'Brien & Associates promoted Melissa Andrews to general counsel. Andrews has served as the company's associate general counsel since late 2010 and also sits on the Futures Industry Association's Law & Compliance Division Executive Committee. She previously was an associate at Hogan Lovells and SNR Denton.
Diversified Search, an executive search firm, hired Anthony Frick as vice president and general counsel. Frick most recently worked at Dechert, where his practice focused on mergers and acquisitions, private equity transactions, corporate finance, and public company reporting and governance issues. He previously was a legal clerk for the U.S. House of Representatives' Committee on House Administration.
Kristy Berner is now senior vice president and general counsel of First Niagara Financial Group Inc. Berner joined the bank in 2010 as assistant general counsel. Before that, she worked in the corporate and securities practice group at Hodgson Russ.
Law Firm News
Daniel Goelzer joined Baker & McKenzie as a partner in the firm's global corporate, securities and banking compliance practices. From 1983 to 1990, Goelzer was general counsel of the Securities and Exchange Commission, where he was appointed a founding member of the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board, which oversees the auditors of public companies. He also was a partner at Baker & McKenzie from 1990 to 2002.
Mayer Brown hired Mark Leeds as a partner in its tax transactions and consulting practice. Leeds most recently was a shareholder in the New York office of Greenberg Traurig. Before entering private practice, Leeds was a managing director and senior tax counselor at Deutsche Bank AG and the general counsel of credit derivative company CFSI.


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Rutherford Sayre Park
6871 W. Belden Ave. Chicago, Illinois 60707
(312) 746-5368
Fee: Free
Age Range: Any
Featured activity: 5pm: Hip-Hop Workshop
The Night Out in the Parks series will make parks a safe haven and a hub of positive activity on summer evenings and weekends. We encourage community members to bring their family and friends, pack a picnic basket and spend the day with us in the park. Planned activities may include art projects, music, dance, drum circle, theatre, a magic show or other fun-filled activities.


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== Developers ==
== Developers ==
=== Swarm Extension ===
=== Swarm Extension ===
Revision as of 09:59, 7 June 2010
This page describes on-going development effort for a new feature in Firebug. Nothing described on this page is deployed yet. Your comments welcome.
- 1 User Experience: Roles
- 2 Testers
- 3 Designers
- 4 Developers
User Experience: Roles
Of course in many cases the same person may be doing eg the design and testing
Users may install Swarms in one of these ways:
- Swarm Tools Menu Item: Firefox > Tools > Swarms
- Swarm firebug button: Firebug > Firebug Menu Icon > Swarms
- Firebug update info page
- Swarm based Firefox extension
Swarm Firefox Tools Menu Item
User picks Firefox > Tools > Swarms. A new Web page opens listing available Swarms. User selects a swarm by clicking on a link, resulting in a new Web page listing the extensions of that Swarm and the testing results. The User may select paid extensions and donate-please extensions. User clicks 'install', optionally pays, and all extensions are downloaded, verified, and installed. (For FF 3.6 reload is needed next).
This use case is expected to be uncommon, but we need it for bootstrap.
Swarm Firebug Button.
User picks Firebug > Firebug Menu Icon > Swarms. The implementation is the Swarm Firefox Tools Menu Item.
Not essential, nice to have.
Firebug Update Info Page
User updates Firebug. The (future) Firebug update page is launched, with links to release notes, documentation, pledge campaign, and swarm list. User picks swarm link and the UX is as for Tools Menu Item.
This should be the primary path for 1.6.
Swarm Based Firefox Extension
User picks a Firefox addon from addons.mozilla.org or other site. The add-on is just the swarm installer wired to launch a particular swarm definition page and auto-install.
This will eventually be the primary path, but until Firebug can install without restart, this path will be clunky: install, restart, install, restart.
The User UX is implemented in the swarm Firefox extension. All of the paths are variations that lead to the swarm-list page. The swarm extension listens for clicks on the links in this page and any pages loaded from it. When it detects a swarm definition page, the install buttons are activated and invoke swarm install.
The swarm extension can be loaded independent of Firebug and thus bootstrap the install of Firebug along with all the other extensions. The Swarm-based Firefox extension implementation simply invokes itself after install; the Firebug update-info page, Firefox menu item, and Firebug button versions open the swarm-list page under supervision of the extension.
The swarm extension is generic and ideally will not depend on Firebug. Its just a multi-extension installer using an HTML page for its specification.
Testers install Swarm extension, Firebug, and FBTest (how?). In the FBTest window they select the testShell (where?). In the testShell they use file-pickers (TODO) to set up the test:
- swarm definition: pick local file or URL?
- test list: URL (defaults to the latest Firebug list), (TODO allow added tests)
- output template (defaults to a basic template).
- output file name (defaults to profile-dir/firebug/template-name.html)
The results of these picks are stored as defaults for the next run (TODO)
Testers then pick "Certified Testing" > "AutoRun"(TODO) or "Install", "Test", "Export". If the results are satisfactory, the tester uploads the output file. Else the tester reports problems somehow.
The testing features layer on the swarm extension and FBTest. The testShell is just a web page running in the FBTest window and instrumented by the swarm-install functions. The shell, swarm definition, and output template all rely on specific HTML class or id values which need to be documented (TODO).
Designers work on the swarm declaration and output template pages. These are standard Web pages with magical class and id values known to the swarm extension.
Swarm Declaration
This page informs users about the individual extensions in the swarm. The user needs to get an overview from the page and have the option to dig deeper for more information. Generally the page should resemble a list of cool features implemented by individual contributors; the fact that these features are implemented by extensions is a not-very-important detail for average users.
Output Template
This is the page seen by users when the select a swarm to install. The page has two
iframe elements, one Swarm Definition and one Test Results, populated by
data: URLs created during the testing. The Swarm Definition is just the Swarm Declaration, modified by the swarm test and exported as data-url encoded HTML. The modifications include (TODO). The Test results are plain text.
At least until we have some experience, the style information should be self-contained in the Swarm Declaration page. The style of both pages here can be modified, but the UI must allow the user to see the test results easily.
Developers creating Firebug extensions will operate like testers but they will typically use the 'pre-test' workflow rather than 'certified testing'. Often the extensions listed in the swarm definition will be file links rather than downloads. It won't make sense to export the test result in this case. The setup will work with Chromebug running.
Developers working on swarm tools can read on.
Swarm Extension
Overlays browser.xul, firebug's browserOverlay.xul, and testConsole.xul. Adds buttons to launch swarm-list and watch the operations on that page (TODO).
- separate swarm-install from swarm-test
- make swarm-install self contained (no FBL).
FBTest modifications
The swarm-test code is essentially a new implementation of outer wrapper of FBTest.
The chrome around FBTest is now minimal. Inside is a
browser element called "taskBrowser". It gets loaded with a 'shell', which is a Web page containing a 'workflow' header and iframe elements. The workflow header lists workflows, each workflow has a list of buttons. Each button works on one or more iframe element. The buttons and iframe elements are connected with magical class names.
When the tester selects a workflow, the corresponding list of buttons is activated and they selectively hide/show iframe elements according to the UI needs. When the test clicks on steps in the workflow, the operation uses the iframe info, for example, reading the test case list and writing results into the result frame. When a step completes the next step is activated.
Each workflow has "auto-run" button (TODO) to run all successful steps in succession; the selected workflow is pre-selected based on the previous selection (TODO); command line option allows autorun of a workflow (TODO).
The workflow steps (buttons) are defined by extending
Swarm.WorkflowStep and implementing the methods in that object. The methods are documented in
workflow.js. Examples include
tester.js, and
The workflows are defined in
swarmWorkflows.html as lists of HTML buttons with magical class names.


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Theories - Origin of Life
Discussion of everything related to the Theory of Evolution.
Moderator: BioTeam
Re: Theories - Origin of Life
The appendix helps your immune system. You want me to list the reasons, we haven't discovered any yet, just like we had no reasons for the appendix, until people understood what it was for. The Bible gives a guideline, on how to live a healthy life, but man completely ignores it, because it mentions cutting out foods that we have grown up loving. There are some groups of people today, who have grown up eating the way that the Bible says to, and those people, are some of the healthiest people on the planet. They do not get cancer or other diseases. The Hallelujah diet, is a diet that focuses on following God's food laws in the Bible. Cancer patients, given months or less to live, decided to try the diet, (they had nothing to lose) and not only did the live, but they were cured of the cancer, in a relatively short time period. I am not just speaking of a few people either, there have been a few hundred cancer patients cured, and not just cancer patients but tons of people with other diseases too. http://www.hacres.com/library/testimonies/search
Also when did I not answer your question?
"The scientific establishment bears a grisly resemblance to the Spanish Inquisition"-D. Gould
Re: Theories - Origin of Life
Wouldn't that be nice if it were true. You see I don't trust your sources. Lying to forward your biases is just too easy. In science we require evidence that is not tainted by bias. Now when I say lying I am not necessarily saying that intentional untruths are being said. It is at least as likely that the underlying bias has made your sources actually believe what they are saying. Self deception is the easiest because we automatically thrust the source. Science (at least good science) assumes bias exists and goes to great lengths to expose it and compensate for it. Just wanting to believe is a huge bias and requires extreme controls to get to the facts through the fog of bias.
Scientists don't do multiple controls and double blind studies because we like them. We do them because we don't trust ourselves any more than we trust creationists.
Murphy is a scientist, whatever can be biased is biased.
Theories - Origin of life
I have only just joined this forum and have been rather interested in this thread.
In particular the debate between Jonl1408 and BDDVM.
You clearly have a confidence in your bible and trust it considerably. May I suggest that when you debate the bible in a science forum you be prepared to debate science not faith.
Now you clearly believe that the God of the bible designed man (indeed everything else) as the bible states. However the bible also states that something else is at play here in that man's condition has been tampered with, you have only to refer to Hebrews 2:14 to show that death and suffering was not part of the original design.
Now if someone believes the bible account is just a myth, at least you can point to the account as being consistent within itself and it explains the current situation of man.
What I am suggesting is that if you get to know your bible better you would therefore be better prepared to debate with anyone who does not share your belief.
I can see you are an educated person and adhere to evolutionary theory, although I am uncertain as to what branch of evolutionary theory you subscribe.
However when you state that
"Only an idiot would have the path of air into the lungs cross the path of food and water into the stomache." I feel you are being more than a little arrogant.
May I suggest you check out the actual design of the human respiratory system and it's control, perhaps here
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Human_Phys ... ory_system and inform how you would modify the system away from idiocy.
Please keep in mind that vague statements about the superior system of the birds is just simple rhetoric unless design detail accompanies your comments.
Some requested details which I'm afraid will be somewhat longwinded for this forum.
To improve the human respiratory system ( without a major overhaul) simply move the esophagus in front of (anterior to) the trachea so the air pathway and the food/water pathway don't cross each other.
Avian respiratory anatomy and physiology is kind of complicated but I'll give it a shot. The windpipe opens at the base of the tongue where debris isn't trapped easily like the back of our pharynx. A system of air sacs then direct air through the lung in only one direction which keeps incoming air from mixing with outgoing air thus greatly increasing oxygen transfer efficiency. It's actually a very cool system. If you watch a bird inhale and then exhale the air you see coming out was not the air that was just inhaled, it's the air that was inhaled the time before. If a bird was smoking the smoke would come out a breath later than expected. If we had this level of oxygen transfer efficiency we could likely run 3 minute miles. I'm just saying that for an intelligent designer the designs look like they were put together without much intelligence.
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And why would that be? There are countless design that would work better than what we have. Anything that you can imagine where respiratory and food ingestion system are separate. teh point is if it evolved it somehow makes sense for the 2 system to have ended up that way, however absurd and unnecessarily complicated and failure prone it is, but if it had been designed from scratch with even a modicum of intelligence separation of the system would be part of the design requirement.
In fact as with many things there is no need for our body to have all those design quirks that are proving to be annoying (design of our spine, absence of protection of the sensitive abdominal area, excretion and reproduction system sharing conduits...) unless you consider that they evolved from preexisting structures that constrained them so much that a better design was not possible. The problem with (un)intelligent design hypothesis is that it completely fails to explain why if we have been designed, those major problems have not been taken in consideration from the start.
Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without
any proof. (Ashley Montague)
Thanks very much for your response. It is certainly educational and appreciated.
I am also glad you have modified the language of your critique in the comparison between the bird/ human respiratory and digestive systems.
I understand the nub of your argument but feel it is a view that is rather simplistic and I don't mean this in any derogative sense.
In my question to you I deliberately referred to control of the systems, those that which are housed in different parts of the brain. You have simply sought to focus on the mechanics of the systems.
Although there are common functionalities between the two systems the fact is that the human system is far more elaborate and indeed versatile. We have only to examine the taste and vocal abilities of the two to appreciate that one is more sophisticated than the other.
The epiglottis is the flap of cartilage located at the opening to the larynx.
During swallowing, the larynx closes to prevent swallowed material from entering the lungs, the larynx is also pulled upwards to assist this process. Stimulation of the larynx by ingested matter produces a strong cough reflex to protect the lungs.
You rightly refer to choking that occurs when the epiglottis fails to cover the trachea, and food becomes lodged in our windpipe.
The closing of the larynx during swallowing indicates anticipation does it not?
I would argue that this is not a matter of faulty design but one of faulty maintenance.
The two systems operate in two different environments and have different purposes while having some common functions.
I don't see why should one system be considered the product of idiot design and the other not.
Now canalon raises a good question and I will respond in my next post shortly.
I don't actually believe an idiot designed anything. Evolution did it. The fact that our bodies seem bodgered together is just what you would expect from such a simple and often imprecise process.
Those who advocate the scientific theory of Creationism or Intelligent design must explain why these problems exist (every single one of them). Furthermore their explainations must be consistent with their definition of the creator/ designer.
No fair claiming god created evolution while saying evolution didn't happen.
Incidentally, part of the nerve supply to the larynx , the recurrent laryngeal nerve, is another example of Rube Goldburg type design.
The nerve starts as a cranial nerve , XI ? I don't recall exactly. Anyway it starts at he base of the skull and heads south, goes right past the larynx, loops around the base of the heart and ends up at he larnyx. This path makes it one of the longest periferal nerves in the body. Unfortunately periferal nerves have to get all their nutrition and metabolites to the ends of their axons through those axons. This becomes increasingly difficult as those axons get longer. In dogs at least this often leads to the nerve becoming damaged with age to the point that about once a month I see an old dog that can't open the larynx to inhale. A 50cm nerve that wears out where a much more healthy 10cm nerve would work fine. Not intelligent, evolutionary baggage.
Re: Theories - Origin of Life
When you used the term evolved I assume (correct me if I am wrong) you refer to random variation followed by natural selection i.e. (survival, mate-finding, reproduction)
Now for the moment lets stick with the respiratory/digestive system mentioned as evidence of as you put it (un)intelligent design.
Did you know (perhaps you do) that our mouths can only distinguish 5 different tastes, sweet, salt, sour, bitter and umami (or savouriness).
But you also know that when we enjoy a really good meal we are definitely not limited to those 5 tastes.
So what's going on?
The other flavours (as distinct from the term taste) is detected by flavour molecules stimulating our olfactory glands in the nose. (part of the respiratory system)
Try the following experiment to see this in action:
Take a piece of any strong flavoured food (say cheese or garlic), hold your nose and put it on your tongue and rub it against the roof of your mouth.
What can you detect? probably just salt or one of the other 4 taste sensations.
Now let your nose go and breath in as you taste (part of the digestive system) the morsel of food, suddenly the flavours erupt in your mouth and nose.
Everything we smell in life comes from these 5 atoms.
These 5 atoms form into different molecules and molecules vibrate at different frequencies and a spectroscope can analyse the vibrations and determine what the molecule is.
We smell molecular vibrations( according to theory), now the fly in the ointment is that if you looked up the nose of the person next to you what you would not see is a spectroscope.
Birds have an acute sense of taste. Taste is used to help avoid harmful foods. Sensory receptors inside the bird's mouth detect sweet, salt, sour (acid), and bitter tastes. Sensitivity to each of these tastes differs from species to species.
http://www.seaworld.org/animal-info/inf ... senses.htm
The sense of taste is part of their survival package.
Do birds enjoy the full flavour as humans do? The answer is no. One major reason is that the sense of taste and smell do not combine as they do in humans. (separate systems as we are informed)
The point I make is this
This highly developed combination of senses in Humans is clearly not a requirement for survival, findng a mate or reproduction ie Natural Selection.
So the obvious question is why do we posses this quality and not birds.The only good reason I can come up with is pleasure.
Now where does pleasure play a part in natural selection. I don't know, can anyone educate me please.
To combine the two systems far from being an example of bad design is a excellent example of good design, if only for the reason it adds pleasure to what is otherwise an essential requirement.
I could take up your other points (design of our spine, absence of protection of the sensitive abdominal area, excretion and reproduction system sharing conduits...) but perhaps we could move on to them later
Re: Theories - Origin of Life
I know you don't believe an idiot designed anything.
But before we go any further I would like to make one thing clear. I am neither a creationist nor an advocate of the ID community.
I have made a study of the various denominations of evolutionary thinking, and there are several, and all coming up with separate ideas.
I have similarly made a study of the bible though not the Qu'ran and the religious churches of Christendom and Islam again come up with different ideas, each one claiming they are right.
Science is my interest.
Science in my opinion should not be tied to any philosophy.
Getting past my bedtime now so must conclude for the time being.
Now I don't get hung up on terminology. When I see design I see it for what it is –Design. I don't need to prefix it with adjectives such as "Intelligent" as the ID community does or "Apparent" as Richard Dawkins does.
How did this design come about? Well I don't see this has been answered by science.
We haven't even been able to explain what life is so how can science know how it came about. If it came about by supernatural means then science will never be able to answer it.
Science however can explain how it could not have come about.
So when you claim that that it is the result of evolutionary process then I need to pin you down to explain which evolutionary theory you are subscribing to, as there are many.
With respect you have not answered that yet.
Could you possibly answer that question please.
Pleasure is evolutions way of rienforcing decisions that make you more likely to live and reproduce. Generally, apples taste good and feces, decayed meat etc taste (and smell) bad. Incidentally there are exceptions as one would expect in a process that takes at least one generation to eliminate deliterious variations. Some people can't resist feces and other not so healthy dietary choices.
Some of these preferences are learned, some are inate and adjusted by learning and some are inate.
I have been accused of offering simplistic answers to these questions.
In science, simple answers are prefered.
Scotty I am sorry, I don't know what you mean by denominations of evolutionary thinking. Could you name a few. Also I'm not sure of your point about the sense of smell/taste in birds. Birds in general have poor sense of both taste and smell. Flight makes smells hard to track and places a premium on eyesight. Food is generally identified visually and is very inflexible. Once a bird starts eating sunflower seeds it's difficult to get them to even try a food with a different appearence. Even ground sunflower seeds.
Re: Theories - Origin of Life
My answer is simple: WRONG.
The design is essentially bad and over complicated. The fact that there is a silver lining to that does not make it any better. If the fact that Windows Millenium Edition was so buggy that it required almost monthly reinstall limited the usual accumulation of crap in the registry, it did not make it a better OS than windows 98.
There are countless way to make the 2 systems communicate and do that more safely if you can design it from scratch. Or to have the olfactive system actually located in the mouth (like snakes) or to make the tongue more sensitive. This is a clunky design that was born of randomness and necessity while nature's tinkering where constrained by the preexisting.
And in fact no amount of rationalisation is convincing: Bad design is bad design whatever later improvment come afterwards. Human have the ribcage of tetrapods, in spite of being bipedals; our larynx and excretion system should not have been connected the way they are if they had been designed. But there never was design or intent, just random tinkering and selection, and a bit of serendipity. Look at the thumb of the panda (and read S.J. Gould's book by the same name, and most of his other book, they are worth it) and many other examples in nature and all we can see is Chance and necessity (Thank you J. Monod).
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Riverside Drive
P.O. Box 181
Prophetstown, IL 61277
State Park, on the northeast edge of Prophetstown along the south bank of
the Rock River in Whiteside County, is a scenic and historic area offering
a variety of recreational facilities. Once the site of an American Indian
village, the 53-acre park derives its name from the Native American prophet
became a state park in 1947 in legislation sponsored by State Rep. George
S. Brydia, who had served 10 terms as mayor of Prophetstown. Gov.
William G. Stratton dedicated the park in formal ceremonies there on Sept.
18, 1953.
(White Cloud), who was of mixed Winnebago and Sauk descent, served as
an advisor to the great Sauk war chief Black Hawk. In 1831, the advancement
of white settlement forced Black Hawk and his followers from the Rock
Island area into Iowa, with the promise that they would not return.
treaty, the land at Rock Island still belonged to the Native Americans
until sold by the United States. The frontiersmen, however, were impatient
and began to occupy the site of Black Hawks village. In 1832, Black
Hawk denounced the encroachment of the frontiersmen upon the lands of
his people and set out from Iowa to retake the ceded land.
a time in 1832, northwestern Illinois was the scene of many skirmishes
between the Native Americans, the Illinois militia and the regular army.
Prophetstown, the site of Wa-bo-kie-shieks village, was destroyed
on May 10, 1832 by troops of the state militia commanded by Gen. Samuel
Hawk was finally chased into southern Wisconsin, with his retreat culminating
in a decisive defeat of the Native Americans a few miles south of Bad
Axe on Aug. 2, 1832. A few days later Black Hawk was captured, and after
several months captivity during which time he was taken to Washington,
D.C., he was permitted to return to his people in Iowa, where he died
in 1838.
State Park is a predominantly wooded area located along the south bank
of the Rock River. Its terrain is relatively flat and lies within the
floodplain of the river. Predominant trees are maple,
cottonwood, oak, walnut and locust. Animal species often seen
are squirrels, rabbits, ducks, muskrats, raccoons and deer.
Coon Creek flows through the park and feeds into the Rock River, creating
a natural area for fish.
tables and stoves are provided. No cooking may be done except on camp
or park stoves. The area offers a picnic shelter and playground equipment.
Drinking water and privy toilets are also located on the area.
will find largemouth and smallmouth bass, bluegill, crappie, channel and
flathead catfish, bullhead, carp, sauger and walleye in the Rock River.
You also can throw a line in Coon Creek. A concrete boat ramp is available
for easy boat launching. There is no horsepower limit on boat motors.
open, well-shaded area is available for both tent and trailer camping.
There are electrical outlets and a dump station available for trailers, 43 of which are availale for reservation through ReserveAmerica.
Water hydrants and privy toilets are located throughout the area.
There also is a shower building with flush toilets.
who enjoy competition in horseshoe pitching will enjoy the six courts
available in the picnic area.
nature trail follows the edge of Coon Creek for approximately 1/3
of a mile. It offers access for anglers while also providing a scenic
walk for hikers.
While swimming is not allowed in the park, many park visitors
enjoy swimming in the Prophetstown Park District indoor pool, located about four blocks away.
is available at the Big Bend State Fish & Wildlife Area, located just
4 miles from Prophetstown. For more information, contact Big Bend at
(815) 537-2270. Hunter
Fact Sheet
State Park can be reached by I-80 or I-88 and exiting onto IL Rt. 78 then
heading south from I-88 or north from I-80. After reaching Prophetstown,
watch for directional signs. The park is located on the south side of
the Rock River within the city limits of Prophetstown.