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Saunders just misses Super Two contract status
The "Super Two" process can be a confusing issue, but suffice it to say, Mariners outfielder Michael Saunders wound up in a tough-luck situation Tuesday when MLB announced its status of Super Two arbitratation eligible players this offseason.
Under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement, the top 22 percent of players between two and three years of service time get to enter the arbitration process a year earlier than the normal three-year time span.
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Tough break for Saundy. I will look forward to him breaking out big next season if the M's give him a chance in LF or RF. Maybe he even pushes the FO to deal Guti sometime before the trade deadline next year.
Well this is very unfortunate indeed. Saunders misses out and ONLY gets to make a paltry 490,000 dollars next year for playing a game. Poor guy hopefully he can pay his electric bills up in BC.


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Thanks a lot
Yes these kit reviews are helpful for a broader spectrum, interested on ethernet, WiFi, and touch sensor.
both starting from scratch if it is a new project or start editing if already had a similar one.
Most of the time Microchip dev tools
Answering past questions, I design my own development tools and at least a couple of pcb rev are required.
Yes I have a wireless project at this time.
Hi catching up
Have several WIFI project going
is this a mesh network ?
Thank you Jon and Rob, good session and good questions.
Yes, review is helpful and I would like to more kit reviews about wireless kits, MCU kits, any vendors, pros and cons
Use a code example for project start ups
Some time I do get a 3rd party sw
Always, I do modification on the dev-boards to accompany any needed variations of experiments.
No current wireless project, but do have some plans for Zigbee
Hello to archive from Oregon
Thanks Jon
Nice lecture
The wireless sniffer seems like a nice addition
Ready for another good lecture
Okay almost caught up
thank you Jon,
Signing off until Session 5 on 22 June 2012. I'll answer more questions after that session. Thank you for joining us for Session 4. --Jon
Thanks again and look forward to tomorrow. I think that it may provide the most useful information on how to approach and decide among the wide variety of options out there.
Thanks again
I have access to the LPC13xx and LPC17xx expresso boards but haven't had time to play with them.
I'm actively using IAR IDE with JTAG/SWD probe (Kickstart) with an LPC11xx processor and have been reasonably impressed.
Jon, have you looked at the newer Cortex M series development Kits yet?
if so which processors have you looked into?
I have worked with the TI Stellaris kits for the Cortex-M3 and have used an ARM mbed board with an NXP LPC1768. Very nice. I haven't worked with the NXP Expresso boards, but have them on my list. They look good.
In particular have you looked into the NXP Expresso boards?
START TIME: Shouldn't the conference become available a few minutes in advance, so we have time to settle the equipment, do the download, and cope with some of the tune up time?
Download of PowerPoint slides available quite some time before start of audio. Audio starts right on time for each session.
Do you have any experience with soft processors with FPGA kits?
Yes, but limited and not very current. I have used Xilinx FPGA and Cypress PSoC-3.
What is the rf pwr legal limit?
For power information and FCC requirements, visit: http://www.nts.com/pdf/whitepapers/6_NTS%2080215%20FCC%20white%20paper.pdf.
Had an interrupt part way through.
Modify Development kits - Yes
Usefulness of review - moderately useful - good compare and contrast between them.
More - yes especally NXP and Tool vendor based not just manufacturer based.
Can you change MAC to resolve conflicts?
No, but each MAC address is unique, so no addressing conflicts. The IEEE 802 protocols all use MAC addresses with 64 bits.
Thanks Jon for the presentation. Sorry I couldn't attend live. I will see you tomorrow.
WHAT KIND OF ADDRESS: is that one on the temperature display?
That is the MAC (Media Access Control) address unique to each communication device. This dev kit displays the three least-significant bytes of the address in hexadecimal format.
Was hoping this would have more on the Wireless Protocol
The prorocol is usually transparent. You use the API functions to control network setup and control. The documentation information shown in the slides will get you off to a good start.
Whats your opinion on CC430 TI's MCU+RF chip?
Another choice worth a look. I cannot recall the names of every protocol TI makes available, but they have their own SimpliciTI, 802.15.4, ZigBee, RF4CE, etc...
@drw36 - MPLAB X does allow you to import and use projects from MPLAB 8, and maybe earlier versions.
Right, you import them as legacy projects.
Well, Better late than never.
thanks rob - and thanks to digikey - keep those starbucks coupons flowing
thanks jon - great information and excellent presentation. see you tomorrow
Time here for a lunch break--back later. --Jon
@Jon - still confused about costs and your demo. It seems you needed two systems for demo, one to send, the other to receive. each system consisted of four boards. therefore, the cost of each system would be $150?
Sorry for the confusion. The $300 kit includes two MCU cards, two wireless PICtail cards, two LCD cards, and two serial-port cards. Also, 2 USB cables, and 2 RS-232 cables. You don't need anything else. If you want to add additional nodes to a network, you could but an extra PIC18 Wireless Development Board and an extra MRF24J40 PICtail for each extra node. I assume any extra nodes would not need an LCD or a serial card. MRF24J40 PICtail card, $US 25. I could not quickly find the "8-bit Wireless Development Board" so contact the company for a price on this board.
@jl: I assume MPLAB X is fully backward compatible. The IDE should not impact the code. Of course it really depends on the compiler used. You'd need to visit Microchip site to see details of compiler choices.
jon - rob - are u still on chat?
@drw36 - is MPLAB X backward compatible. that is, I already have projects built in MPLAB 8.0 and 8.41. can I simply upgrade (install) MPLAB X and then be able to access and built my existing projects?
MazianLab asks Is this kit compatible with all types of Microchip MCUs?
The kit is stand alone. I suppose you could use other Microchip MCUs to control the MiWi protocol, but you would have to ask Microchip. The wireless PICtail card should work with other MCUs and MCU boards, but check Microchip's information to be sure.
Jl asks: Is this $300 for all four boards
Yes, for the complete set of eight (8) boards and four (4) cables. You need four AA-size batteries.
e-See you all tomorow.
@JI: MPLAB X is Microchips new version of MPLAB and it is now crossplatform (Win, Mac & Linux).
Looking forward to tomorow's recommendations on criteria for board selection.
Sherlock asks: Is MiWi is a popular standard?
Popular with people who use Microchip products. Although the MiWi protocol code is free, you cannot use it with devices from other vendors, per Microchip's license arrangements.
Rob and Jon Thanks for the informative session.
Thanks Jon for a great lecture!
Jl asks: What is the complexity to communicate to another node rather than another Microchip wireless system. that is communicating with a PC or internet web site?
Jl asks: Is the mplab X a newer version of Microchips MBLAB, or is it specific to the boards you are using?
The MPLAB X IDE will work with any of Microchip's MCU. It is not specific to this kit.
Thanks, Jon
what is the complexity to communicate to another node rather than another Microchip wireless system. that is communicating with a PC or internet web site?
You wouldn't use the MiWi protocol or an 802.15.4 transceiver module to communicate information to a PC or an Internet connection for general-purpose use. The transceivers have a range of about 100 feet indoors, perhaps as far as 300 feet outdoors (clear field). Data rates are about 250 kbits/second. You would use these modules in sensor networks, for security systems, building monitors, etc. You CAN connect them to a PC to report this information, but you wouldn't use them for Web browsing or email communications. For those apps, use WiFi.
Gamatec asks: How is realized the communication between the kit and the microcontroller ?
Can i connect this kit with another microcontrollers (non Microchip) ?.
Luizcosta asks: Do any of these kits have all provided software available for Linux, QNX, XINU, OS X, or other OS?
Is Zena duplex? sorry I mean is MiWi Duplex
No, simplex only. The 802.15.4 has a collision avoidance "mechanism" to prevent crashes, but it operates simplex on one channel. The 802.15.4 spec includes the means to detect busy channels and find low-energy channels when modules set up a PAN.
Thanks Jon. I look forward to meet tomarrow.
Thanks again, Jon! Good information.
Does the source code come with the API?
Don't know. I believe some of the underlying C code is available, but not sure if you have access to everything. You could download the sample software and take a look.
No, simplex, receive only. It simply monitors traffic and breaks communications into the bits and bytes for the MiWi protocol. Look at Microchip's specs to find out if it can handle "bare" 802.15.4 communications or ZigBee. I suspect the receiver chip can, but not sure about the PC-based interpreting software MC supplies
Does the sniffer monitor the tx and recieve msgs. and does the software support filtering?
It monitors all wireless traffic at one of the 2.4 GHz channels, so you get all messages. I don't know if it has filtering. It does not transmit.
Thanks Jon and Rob..See you all tomorrow.
Is Zena duplex?
No, simplex, receive only. It simply monitors traffic and breaks communications into the bits and bytes for the MiWi protocol. Look at Microchip's specs to find out if it can handle "bare" 802.15.4 communications or ZigBee. I suspect the receiver chip can, but not sure about the PC-based interpreting software MC supplies.
Has anyone heard of the Raspberry Pi - http://www.raspberrypi.org/?cm_mmc=uk-email-_-other-_-uk-210612-raspberry_pi_weeklyupdate2-_-0
Does MiWi include excryption and compression that can be modified?
You can turn security on or off, as needed, via the API: #define ENABLE_SECURITY. I don't know about any compression techniques and don't see anything related in the API documents.
Sorry, folks--this chat tool doesn't let hot links come through.
The prices are there for the kits in each day's slides. For today's slides: The Microchip Zena sniffer costs about $US 50. The PICkit3 costs about $US 45.
I second Ran's post - this week's presentations were well done and practical.
Jon: Can the Microchip hardware be used to support the widely used WiFi or other wireless standards, and how hard is it to do (is there support software available)?
Yes, Microchip can support WiFi with a different PICtail card. Here's a link to more info: http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1406&dDocName=en549227
Answers (as others have said): Yes, Yes, and Not sure yet.
Excellent presentation, Thanks Jon.
Would like reviews of embedded SW Dev Tools
I've attended all of John's presentations. They are very good. Thanks
Yes, it takes place via the USB connection to your host PC and via the ICSP pins on the MCU module. It's an expensive device unless you need all its capabilities.
Helpful - Yes
More - Yes
Others - not sure, so many to choose from. Perhaps a review of IDEs mfg, 3rd party and OpenSource?
I second to Ron.
The development kit reviews with the summary of likes/dislikes at the end are usefull. I like ones combining a technology like RF. TI and Cypress reviews would be good.
I would like to see FPGA with soft micro as well.
Thanks again for great presentation.
Thanks Jon and Rob, didn't have to buy the kits to find out about them. Great sessions this week. See all tomorrow.
Helpful, Yes. Would like to lkearn about FreeScale HS08.
More MCU reviews would be helpful
I would like to see more kit reviews, especially other ARM vendors like TI & ST. Also some FPGA kits.
Thanks to both
BTW, none of my posts were dropped today
Microchip has a WiFi card: MRF24WB0MA Wi-Fi PICtail/PICtail Plus Daughter Board. Search Goolde for microchip for wifi pictail.
I've attended every week of the presentations since the beginning of this year, save 1 week. This week, so far, has been the most practical of all of them. I also feel that Jon did a superb job of presentation. The photos were excellent, and the delivery was logical and easily followed. Bravo and thanks to Jon and to Digikey. If I may be so bold to speak for all the attendies over the past months, thank you very much Digikey and Design news.
I think these were very helpful.
I would like to see a review of other small µC like MSP430, Frescale RS08/S08, Renesas 78K, Zilog Z8,...
These reviews have been helpful by looking at the kits from different vendors. Since I have used only Microchip systems, this is a convenient way to learn how other vendors do things.
Helps get a broader view of available kits
These MCU development kits reviews are very helpful, as it gives us heads up info.
I would like to see the Freescale Tower kits reviews.
I'd like to see more of these, NXP and TI
Thank you so much!
sure, other reviews would be interesting.
combo chips, FPGA + processor would be ideal.....
Reviews are helpful and may well serve for future reference as well.
I have used PIC and Atmel dev Kits as wells as TI and Xilinx.
Would love to see future reviews.
Thank you very much Jon and Rob as well as Digikey for these great sessions.
Thank you
It is certaintly helpfull, I get some insites on the limitations of these dev boards.
Yes, the Review Session(s) were helpful.
Yes, More Review Sessions would be helpful.
Other Kits? Not sure, Its helpful just to see what is out there.
Thanks for a great lecture!
Yes, helpful, other Cortex-M3 kits - TI, Freescale, NXP, ST
These were good. It allows us to see some of the other systems that are available and how they worked and what they provide.
I would like to see more.
Keep up the good work. Variety is good!
DEV KITS HELPFUL: yes
reviews of boards was very helpful. THANKS.
Thank you Jon and Rob
Useful: Yes; More: Yes, please; I'd have to do some research to provide possible one to review.
Thanks Jon & Rob.
Yes. Very helpful. It saves research.
More Please.
Doing Low Freq. Noise research -- need something more powerful. M5CORTEX or better with Ethernet, A/D I2C etc.
Yes, I found them useful
yes, very helpfull to know features available in other develpment kits although I am stick to one for my work
thank you
Yes, these reviews are very helpful. Yes, I'd like to see more of these just to see what's available out there.
These reviews are extreemly helpful. I really do want to attend other sessions. In fact if you had some lab to go to, I'd love it.
I like the reviews - gives a good overview of different aproaches from different vendors. I would like to see the BeagleBone reviewed as well as a 8051 kit and/or a MSP430 kit...
Raspberry PI
good progam, would like to see more, bye Jon
Dev kit reviews are interesting. Nice to see features in kits from vendors that I am not familar with.
yes..these development kit review very useful and helpful. and Yes I would like to see more review sessions.
Thank you.
Thanks Jon and Rob. It is a good lecture.
Finally, what MCU families and development tools would like to see reviewed?
1) Kit reviews were very helpful.
2) Would like to see more.
3) Any provider is interesting - this allows a good overview without having to meet with a vendor.
Thank you Jon
@JON/ROB: Cost information?
Would you like more reviews such as these?
Thank you Jon for the presentation, thank you Rob and Digikey
Did you find these development kit reviews helpful?
@Rob - found the dev kits reviews VERY helpful. Yes would want to attend more sessions. like to see comparison to Arduino kit
DEV KIT SECTION: I would like to see those which are already incorporating OSs
Yes, entire week was helpful! Yes, sign me up for additional sessions! :)
@Rob: The development kit reviews were helpful. Some examples of customizing Eclipse for other MCU families would be interesting.
It is helpful!
Yes. I would like to see some comparative analysis.
This definitely helps to see what they have available as a support tool.
Yes useful, yes more please, NXP/Cypress.
Yes, they are very helpful! Would also like to see globally unlicenced RF module reviews. Thanks!
Thank you Jon, another great lecture.
yes, helpful.
use examples for initial understanding, then usually re-write
We're now on slide 35.
SLIDE: Rather slide 34 NOT 32.
We're now on slide 34.
We're now on slide 33.
Code examples are generally good for getting something to run. I can optimize later.
We're now on slide 32.
Almost always take a simple example program as a start for a new project unless I am pretty familiar with the system and it has a good wizard for generating the boilerplate code.
Mostly code examples save time.
WHERE TO START: It dfepends on the level of expertise: I may start from an example, every time I'm dealing with totally different field of knowledge. Esample: If I'm dealing with a problem involving permutations of a string, I may go find a C sample code that I ike and study.
Modify sample projects to understand hardware and software, get desired function. Start production software from blank project.
I have always used code examples as starting points, but I often digress far from the starting point.
Always use code examples to start with.
i like code examples to get started, play with them, make small changes and then start clean when I have a good feel for the system.
We're now on slide 31.
I do not use example code if I am familiar with target micro. Otherwise yes it's a great place to start.
I usually start with a simple example project so it has all the settings correct and add my code to it.
always start with examples
@Rob - often start with code examples
For a new subject I use sample code as a start.
Create from scratch but refer to samples & examples, if need be.
I always use code examples to get started. It's the only way to know you're doing the right thing.
I use code examples whenever possible as a starting point.
I like to start with an example to get things started.
Use example projects to start all the time. 80% plus
start with code examples about half the time...
Definitely use code examples for prototypes - then I like to rewrite from scratch after initial dev
Code example is where I start.
yes, I start with code that is started.
Most of the time
sample code is often helpful as a start.
@Rob - yes code examples, when available, especially when eval
@Rob: often start with coding examples and then customize them.
We're now on slide 30.
Is MiWi is a popular standard?
if MPLAB X is a newer version of MPLAB, is it backward compatible with older Microchip projects?
We're now on slide 29.
We're now on slide 28.
Yes, sometimes thirt party tools help to solve the problem.
We're now on slide 27.
Don't use 3rd party for demo kits, but have used when we select uC for products. Nice feature to select among various revisions of compilers. Easy to support legacy products and keep with original compiler.
Sometimes use 3rd party tools. Use CCS C compiler with older version of MPLAB. Have only played with MPLAB X & the free compiler so far.
We're now on slide 26.
Sometimes we have to go out for a third party program, Normally it seems there is a disconnect between the Code Editor/compiler and the Programming/downloading tools.
Yes, I do, have to go to third party sites to make everything work.
We're now on slide 25.
Hi-Tech is owned by Microchip and you can download a functional version for free.
The Hi-Tech Pro is $1K and well optimize code (in my experience) to about 60% of the size of the standard.
Some third party programs offer code "treats" and examples not offered elsewhere.
sometimes i use a familiar 3rd party ide and compiler when getting started with a new system.
We're now on slide 24.
This free C compiler is no limtation?
Occasionally use 3rd party tools.
yes always 3rd party provide good code optimization
hardly ever.
We're now on slide 23.
How is realized the communication between the kit and the microcontroller ?Can i connect this kit with another microcontrollers (non Microchip) ?.
We're now on slide 22.
Has anyone tryed to use a PIC24 with MiWi that is not a dev. board listed.
We're now on slide 21.
We're now on slide 20.
is the mplab X a newer version of Microchips MBLAB, or is it specific to the boards you are using
We're now on slide 19.
We're now on side 18.
modified to add extra LEDs.
@JON/ROB: Do any of these kits have all provided software available for Linux, QNX, XINU, OS X, or other OS?
V1.2 seems to have fixed that
We're now on slide 17.
Are the Microchip Application Libraries for the host (vs target), since they're OS specific? What sorts of apps are there?
MaqzianLab -- Jon will be able to answer questions after the PPT presentaion.
poor MPLAP behavior...needs to be corrected
I have modified Demo boards by adding power supply decoupling caps to lower P/S noise into the A/D converter.
Yes, I added some I/O devices and LCD.
We're now on slide 16.
yes added header and input devices
Yes I have modified boards on occasion like a SPDT to select signal source, etc.
Yes, Added an fram, RTC chip from Ramtron to a zilog dev board.
I've disconnected some LCD pins in order to use them for additional IO as well as replaced sensors (photoresistors, etc) to test with different units
Yes & No. No fixes, but I have added circuit to test something
yes, i've glued an extra header for access to i/o on a few development boards. also added a few more leds for monitoring.
Both Cypress, and NXP have prototypeing ares on some of thier eval boards.
@rob - prefer not to modify demo boards until the eval is complete then it is just another component in the pile
I have made mods to get access to signals not brought out to headers.
We modify boards all the time. Typical is to cut an on board function such as a pot or LED to be able to use that port.
typically don't mod, move on to our prototype design
We're now on slide 15.
Jon, does this kit has temperature sensor as well?
@jl - the kit includes all the boards. See slide 3. It looks like you would need to buy a couple of kits (at least) for a base and a remote station.
@ebrown, I bleive it costs $299.
We're now on slide 14.
We have Looked into wireless projects for customer, We have one in the works right now
since there are several boards presented, it would have been good to get costs as they are presented. at the end of session will have to dig back thru presentation to figure it all out
We're now on slide 13.
We're now on slide 12.
What is the total cost of the items shown on slide 9?
We're now on slide 11.
@luizcosta - yes ~$300 USD
Currently working on scoping a project that will need something like this...
not at this time
We're now on slide 10.
DID JON: talk about cost of the board and peripherals?
I'm thinking of a wireless project.
We're now on slide nine.
Researching for a wireless project
@Rob Home automation system for my home, this year.
I have my current students in the Senior Product Design course including a wireless network in their project.
Probably, not sure yet.
No current wireless project..
Currently have one with special protocol and tools.
Use to make RF Test equipment.
I do.
Currently we have some wirelss smart tarnsmitters in oyr project.
We're now on slide eight.
No current wireless project 30% - 40% Chance in next year.
No wireless soon
Yes expectaing a wireless project
Down the road I plan to learn how to develop wireless drivers for the XINU OS for the TS5400 or other SC that I come accross at the time I'm ready.
I do not have any project now, but I see a lot of application
Doing research for two future wireless projects.
Wireless in product roadmap.
@Rob - no current wireless proj - will probably do a eval within the next 6 mos
no wireless projects on the horizon.
No wireless expected
@Rob: No wireless project underway or expected during the next year, but very interested in the topic nonetheless.
@Rob - have some ongoing and will have more in the future...
Working on Wi-Fi project currently
Probably next year
Expect one in the next year.
We're now on slide seven.
does the sniffer monitor both what is sent AND received
@DennisL - RF Power is a function of FCC clasification and frequency. Jon may have more information.
We're now on slide six.
DennisL -- Jon can answer your questions after the PPT presentation.
We're now on slide five.
Is this kit compatible with all types of Microchip MCUs?
We're now on slide four.
supposed to be $300 for all eight boards... (two transceivers)
We're now on slide three.
good afternoon
Jl -- Jon will be able to answer your question after the Power Point presentation.
Is this $300 for all four boards
Hi Rob, Jon, and evertone else! Good afternoon.
We're now on slide two.
What is the cost of the different Microchip boards?
THasham, glad for AC and central heating depending on the time of year!
We're now on slide one.
Hello from Lake Simcoe Ontario (Georgina) Canada
Hello and Guten tag
Hello everyone!
Hello Everyone!
Glad that someone invent AC..:)
mid 90's here in greater Boston
Hello from Albuquerque.
hello from sunny MIAMI.
Rochester, NY
95F in Connecticut and humidity about 85
@billT - where in Spokane (valley, south hill or north side)?
HOT in MA too
90 degrees, chill factor 94, 50% humidity in San Antonio
Hello everyone...from scorching hot VA.
Finally some warmth in Washington!
Hello everyone.
Hello from Orange Co. California.
Yesterday it was 116F in Phoenix. Hoping today will be a little cooler.
jl, I got mine already. Haven't used it yet.
To jl, no I';ve not got mine, but I don't think I qualified.
Hello everyone. 101 in NJ?
Hi from Vermont, 92F 40% humidity
hmmm...a BIG Starbucks grandie would be good about now...I think I am behind on coupons. has anyone gotten theirs for the last sessions 2 wks ago
Hello from Northern Germany
Hi everyone!
hi ya'll
hi all
hello everyone
Howdy folks!!! :) (No chance of snow in Southwest Missouri today. Wind chill about +90f...)
Jon, Read your ADC accuracy and Settling times article in design news magazine..Thanks.
Hello from San Antonio
Hello all, beautiful day here in northern alberta, bright blue sky, 21C/70F and fresh after the rain we've had for quite a while now.
Good afternoon everyone
It's 93 here in Albuquerque, 38% humidity.
hi you guys
Hi Folks, Sunny in Portlandia (rain returns tonight so we'll feel better tomorrow :)
@RMRSS: where in upstate NY?
Hi everyone.
Dbushnell -- it's being developed. Keep you eye out for announcements.
Afternoon, Rob.
Good afternoon folks.
Relatively cool here today in Irvine, CA at 65F
79F and 12% humidity here in Salt Lake valley. A nice day, although we badly need rain.
Rob, Has the entire semester 2 curriculum been decided? When will list of classes be available?
Hello all.
We are at 89F but it's the humidity that kills ya here sometimes being near the great lakes.
T = 95 F in SC -USA
Hello Everyone. IT's a scorcher here iin upstate NY. How's it where you are?
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As a conservative in a liberal town, Paul Broderick probably had the most one-against-four votes of any of the city councilors within the last four years, opposing restrictions on outdoor smoking as well as fees and charge increases for franchise agreements and 911 services.
�It wasn�t easy to get up there and take a position that was counter to the other four councilors and city staff, but there were certain things I felt strongly about. That�s what you are elected to do.� Broderick said.
The conservative stalwart has decided not to seek re-election this spring. Three seats will be up for election in April, but two seats are certain to change because Mayor Doug Lyon is term-limited and can�t run again.
Councilor Christina Rinderle, whose term also is ending, said she will run again.
The two other councilors, Sweetie Marbury and Dick White, have two more years left in their four-year terms.
Anyone interested in running for the council can begin circulating petitions on Feb. 6. Candidates need 25 signatures to get on the ballot. The filing period ends Feb. 26.
Broderick, 40, who is vice president for business banking and a loan officer at First National Bank, said he hopes the nonpartisan council will find a new conservative voice.
�I�m not anti-government,� he said. �I believe in government, but the current trajectory of (government) growth is not sustainable.�
While new government programs and policies can be well-intentioned, Broderick said that �every action has a reaction.�
He worries, for instance, that a new land-use development code will be too restrictive, allowing only for high-end development, which in turn would require the city to create more affordable housing.
�There�s a mentality I see that the government does a good job so more (government) is better. Well, �more is better� is not always the case. There can be too much of a good thing,� he said.
Broderick wants new councilors to appreciate that �you�re not city staff. You don�t work for the city, You work for the people. For anybody who serves in that position, that mind set is critical.�
He said he is �not running again because it is a big time commitment. It�s a big job, and I already have a job and a family.�
He and his wife, Monica, have a 9-year-old daughter, Elise. The long Tuesday night council meetings have been cutting into his home life.
�You see your kid for a half hour in the morning and maybe couple of hours at night. It�s no fun to kiss them goodbye on Tuesday morning and not see them again until Wednesday morning,� he said.
Broderick said his time on the board was gratifying, especially when he received so much support from the community after taking some lonely stands.
�It�s tough to do it up there, but then when you go out in the community, you find you have a lot of support. You get a lot of thanks for that.�
When he opposed the franchise fee for the La Plata Electric Association in early 2012, �I got a lot of unsolicited emails, phone calls, handwritten letters � the majority were from people I didn�t know.�
Broderick had opposed the franchise fee as an unfair tax, noting that the way it was structured on top of a sales tax amounted to double taxation. Voters then rejected it in April but later approved a second version in November after the franchise fee was restructured to apply only to electric consumption.
�There were people who didn�t understand what the whole agreement was,� Broderick said. �These were people who had been in the community for 50 years and had voted in the past on those issues. They were grateful that I took the time to look into it and shed some light on it, explain it for what it was.�
In comparing community support to the council, Broderick said, �I was treated better in the community than I was on the dais.�


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|29th February 2008 03:33 AM
Why grow the sport?
I'm happy with declining numbers. Even the controversy on Maui. Windsurf schools? Shut em all down!
I know it sounds harsh, but it is way too crowded as it is. Less is more. More waves and wind for us all if there are less windsurfers.
Instead of thinking the glass is half empty, think it's half full!
Peace out!
|29th February 2008 03:18 AM
Fair Comment
Unfortunately there is no magic bullet to grow the sport.
|27th February 2008 08:02 AM
|27th February 2008 03:00 AM
Bill, I think the "each to his own" attitude is great - that's all some of us are trying to say. It's great if people want to follow a different part of this fantastic sport, we just don't want them abusing those who have different tastes.
You're right, modern boards are faster in some conditions. However, most modern boards are slower than old boards in light and/or gusty winds, and in most of the world the wind is normally light and/or gusty. So today's boards are often actually slower than older boards a lot of the time - perhaps most of the time, depending when and where you sail. So maybe neither is simply "faster" or "slower" - just suited to different stuff. As you say, to each his own.
In some ways they are more fun, but in other ways they are less fun. Not everyone judges fun by planing speed. Some people find exploring bays fun, or racing in light winds, or simple gear. Again, to each his own.
If light and stiff is so important to Joe Average, why is Joe Average surfer getting longer heavier boards; Joe Average dinghy sailor sailing the same old boats; and Joe Average kayaker buying a heavy flexy plastic kayak?? Sure, to some people light and stiff is vital, to others long-lasting and tough is more important.
The industry is not perfect when it comes to satisfying the marketplace. This is the same industry that tried to sell lots of hollow, fragile Div 2 boards; then lots of tiny sinkers that people couldn't sail; then lots of skinny DSBs that people couldn't gybe; and ignored widestyle boards that could lower the planing threshold. It's been said that the Kona One is the world's top selling board, yet that concept was utterly ignored and ridiculed by the industry for years.
In other words, the industry has got it wrong many, many times before, just like many much bigger industries (the UK and US car industries, for example) got it wrong for decades.
If the industry is always right and always responds to consumer demand, why did they ignore light-wind planing for so many years? And most of all, how come windsurfing has declined over the long term, at a time when similar sports (dinghy sailing in some places, surfing, kayaking) where about to increase???
I admit that I can definitely be an inverted snob about buying new gear. To me, it often seems as if people are blaming something else (last year's gear and those who created it) for their own lack of technique. And inverted snobbery is an unfortunate but perhaps
natural reaction to the gear snobbery that we often see.
So sure,modern gear is great in many ways, but the current route is not the only one to follow to grow the sport.
|27th February 2008 01:18 AM
Each to their own
I feel at times there is some type of inverted snobbery with certain people who feel it is in some way wrong to buy new kit.
It�s a bit like only the foolish or rather naive people buy new gear while those who hold onto their gear for years or buy second hand are cool and sophisticated.
Each to their own.
Boards are lighter, stronger, stiffer and faster than ever before.
Not to mention more fun.
If the customer wanted them cheaper with the associated loss in performance then the manufactures would provide them.
|26th February 2008 09:12 PM
|Hey Hardie I thought you'd canned the international idea.
|26th February 2008 07:28 PM
One thing we did in australia was to use the internet, the advent of gps technology, and the idea of windsurfing in teams, listening to what people wanted, and we generated quite a bit of interest with our www.gpsteamchallenge.com.au We have 203 registered users,26 teams australia wide, and the biggest new growth has been not "new entrants" to the sport, but particularly guys (Returnee's) that hadn't sailed for up to 10 years that returned to be part of the teams challenge. (about 15 guys returned after years of absence) So I think teams is an issue that uses the social element that humans enjoy, I'm sure teams is not purely an Australian phenomenom.
Check the website and contact us if you want to join an international teams challenge which is the next step?
|26th February 2008 03:04 PM
> its my opinion that windsurfing is WAY too expensive
This is a choice, not a fact. I see guys out there who need to renew the gear and ever buy more equipment. And I see others that don't. Frankly the former bitches about prices and often seems to have less fun on the beach. Esp. that now with kitesurfing there is more cheap recent gear than ever.
I use older gear, I seldom buy new, and I hang on to it quite a few years. Sure there are Tupperware sailors out there, but personally I need a constant feel for my freestyle and sailing the waves. That's me.
But you're right that many feel the pressure to do like the Jones' - their problem.
|26th February 2008 01:48 PM
its my opinion that windsurfing is great, but WAY too expensive to get mass appeal among all the sports etc that people now have open to them. I always say to my friends who don't sail that "windsurfing is more like yachting than surfing, in every respect". I think the manufacturers spend way too much effort on design rather than production. If they poured more effort into researching cheaper materials, (yes goodbye carbon/kevlar) and lowering the cost of producing them, instead of putting all their time and energy into tweaking rocker lines, vees and concaves, then maybe young people could afford to get involved. The current R&D does nothing except for the experienced and advanced enough to notice these differences.
None of the carribean freestyle hotshot kids went out and bought $3000 worth of windsurfing gear. In interviews they all say they were given unwanted gear by wealthy tourists until they got sponsored.
Bring on the US$500 beginner board & rig and sell it in outdoor sports stores or walmarts around the world. Then maybe those curious enough, could afford just to try it.
You can buy a good mountain bike, or a surfboard, or a snowboard and resort pass, for $500, but nowadays that might buy one of my sails.
|17th February 2008 07:49 PM
You're right, they're having fun, they're one-design. No gimmick, no Tupperware party. This is the nearest thing I've seen to the original days, which most sailors have never known. They do "freestyle", move about, try things, fall, etc.
That's the only way. People who bore with the sport are those not doing that, going right and left for 1km reaches, and buying fancy equipment too to do that.
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Karl Odenthal rolled past the finish line of the Police Unity Tour in Washington, D.C., to scores of people yelling and cheering the cyclists finishing the 250-mile trek.
But thousands more were looking on without saying a word as the bikers passed the names of more than 19,000 U.S. law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty that are etched into the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial. Master Cpl. Sandy Rogers' is now one of them.
The tour began in 1997 to bring awareness to law enforcement officers who have died in the line of duty and to honor their sacrifices. What started with 18 riders on a four-day ride has grown to what was 1,700 riders this year.
To take part in the tour, a cyclist must have some tie to an officer killed in the line of duty. Odenthal, a lieutenant with the Aiken Department of Public Safety, rode in honor of his fallen fellow officer Sandy Rogers.
Rogers was shot and killed Jan. 28, 2012, while investigating a call about a suspicious vehicle in Eustis Park. She was the second Aiken Public Safety officer killed in the line of duty in as many months. Master Public Safety Officer Scotty Richardson was shot on Dec. 20, 2011, and died the next day. His name was placed on the memorial wall following last year's tour.
'I felt like I could have kept going'
Odenthal, who is the first Aiken officer to participate in the tour, signed up but was originally put on the waiting list. That changed after he sent tour officials a "passionate" email in which he told them about Rogers, how he was her immediate supervisor and how much it'd mean to ride for her.
Odenthal and about 200 riders from his regional group rode 250 miles from Portsmouth, Va., to the nation's capital, beginning May 9. The first day, the riders biked 112 miles; the second day, 70 miles; and they finished it out on the third day.
The terrain for the first leg was relatively flat, according to Odenthal. The second leg had some "bigger hills."
"The third day, it was just hill after hill after hill," he said. "We hit hills for, basically, three and a half hours on the third day. It was a little taxing."
Odenthal said he'd spoken with other people who'd completed the race before and got advice. He began training in January when he found out he'd been accepted as a participant.
"The only thing I was a little concerned about was, how were group riding dynamics going to affect my ride," he said. "It ended up being a positive thing."
Odenthal said cyclists got to talk with each other while riding.
"You're kind of riding in pairs, and then you'd do a climb," he said. "Say someone wasn't as fast as you in the front; they drop out and then the whole line would shift. Now you're next to somebody else and you're talking to somebody else. I got to meet a lot of really neat people."
The race ended at the Law Enforcement Officers Memorial in Washington, where several from other officers from Aiken, including Chief Charles Barranco, the Honor Guard, officers from Rogers' B-shift and members of Rogers' family, were waiting.
"It was nice to have people I knew at the other end. They were there by Sandy's name on the wall," Odenthal said. "Just to ride in there and see them, it was exhilarating. It didn't feel like the end of 250 miles. I felt like I could have kept going, it was that kind of euphoria. You're excited, you had the crowd cheering, it was slam-packed. There were bikes as far as I could see forward and bikes as far as I could see back."
There were multiple ceremonies during the week honoring fallen officers, according to Odenthal. During one, the survivors (family members and spouses) of slain officers placed a rose into a wreath, which was guarded in shifts by multiple honor guards, including Aiken Public Safety's.
'This is where their legacy is'
Odenthal spoke with some of the survivors and asked them what the memorial wall meant to them.
"They all said the same thing," he said. "'This is a spot where I can go to remember my husband.' They both knew their husbands died doing what they loved doing. It was a common spot in D.C. where they're honored nationally, rather than just a grave site. This is where their legacy is."
Many people left flowers, personal effects or notes by the wall.
"Letters from kids to their dads – just things like, 'I miss you, Dad,'" Odenthal said. "It was shocking to me, to see the number of kids without dads – little kids."
The ceremonies included speeches by President Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder.
Classes and workshops were available for officers and the survivors of fallen officers. Odenthal said some of the tactical workshops included psychology and physiology of combat, computer forensics and a knife class, while the survivors received help coping with the loss of their loved one.
"Everything from managing their life without their spouse, counseling – they had everything," Odenthal said.
Seeing the memorial and the reactions of those in attendance was "a struggle to keep your emotions in check," he said, but seeing how it helped the survivors of the fallen officers was comforting.
"For them, it wasn't as much about financial assistance and things like that as it was an everlasting memory of their husbands," he said. "His name will be on there forever."
Odenthal said he wants to thank the residents of Aiken for their donations and support to make his journey possible. He was recognized as one of the top nine fund raisers in his chapter of 200 participants.
"There was tremendous support from the City of Aiken, and the majority of what came in were individuals," he said. "A lot of guys got corporate sponsors, and mine were all people. They were all individuals. … I couldn't have done it without them."
• Teddy Kulmala covers the crime beat for the Aiken Standard and has been with the newspaper since August 2012. He is a native of Williston and majored in communication studies at Clemson University.
Submitted photo Sgt. Billy Cameron etches the name of Master Cpl. Sandy Rogers at the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial in Washington, D.C.×


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"1:09:08-"LITTLE DID I EXPECT THE NIGHT TO END THE WAY IT DID." A firefighter out celebrating his birthday with friends ...winds up helping save a man's life. Over the weekend a man collapsed in a Waukee bar...no heartbeat and no breathing for almost 15 minutes... Luckily he collapsed in the midst of several people who knew exactly what they needed to do to save him. Mark Tauscheck reports. Tony Collins has been a firefighter for 35 years - he's performed CPR more times than he could ever count... 1:08:34-"most of the time we're playing tug of war with the grim reaper and he tends to win most of the time." But Friday night...the grim reaper lost... Tony was celebrating his birthday with a group of friends inside Kenny's Pub in Waukee...when Don Roese, an 83-year-old from Pomeroy in town visiting family... collapsed on the dance floor. Tony rushed to the man and found he was not breathing and had no pulse...within seconds Tony was joined by two other firefighters, an army veteran, and an ER nurse. 1:10:15-"this guy couldn't have picked a better time to have a massive heart attack considering the company that was available considering the company available within a matter of 10- 15 feet...around him... " Surrounded by people praying and crying, including the patients son and daughter- in-law, Tony and the others rotated through CPR... Over 10 minutes later Don started breathing and moving again... 1:11:18-"and on the way out the door the patrons in the bar all applauded, it was an overwhelming feeling and experience." steve-1:24:06- "they saved his life, there's no doubt they saved his life." Roese's son Steve and his wife who was dancing with Don when he collapsed say Don is already his old self... 1:31:21-"he said what happened and we told him and he said holy blank hahaha!" And they say it's hard to know how to thank the strangers who saved their dad's life. steve-1:29:30- "just a really scary site, really truly thought i was losing my dad, but we had some angels there..." Collins says he only did what any firefighter would have done - but says he cherishes meeting Don in the hospital...as he was preparing for bypass surgery. 1:14:18-"he said im going to buy you a beer when i get out and i said you need to go buy a lottery ticket ." Roese had double bypass surgery this morning - he's listed in critical but stable condition. Doctors have told the family if all goes well, he could be home
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