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Dam that's the most I seen Espn First Take talk about the Clippers mostly Blake Griffin MVP talk!!! Stephen A Smith says BG32 is a close third in the race due to his team success with is due to his much improved game & toughness!!! Did anyone else see this today?? If anyone has any video of this today please post on here!! I'll check on line later today if anyone has uploaded a video.
I saw it while I was with a client today, but couldn't watch it because...well, I was with a client lol. Please upload if you guys find it.
That was weird seeing them basically d*ck ride BG for a good 7 minutes.
Honestly, Griffin should win MVP just based on the fact he almost got Skip to admit he was wrong about Blake.
About time......
Skip admitting he's wrong just doesn't happen in this world lol.
Finally the world is starting to see what we see. Blake has stepped his game up big time this year. With his work ethic each year he will get better and better. Blake has the potential to be talked about with lebron and KD. He can win the mvp, probably not this year but its in his future.
here is the vid
Yes I Had to watch it twice, the funny thing is with all of the Media putting him 3rd in the MVP with Joakim Noah 4th (guy has been huge as well) after last nights performance by Blake I knew he'd be a topic on first take, I was sure Stephen A would show love but Skip was the surprising one. But I was saying earlier this year: If the Clippers finish 1st in the West CP3 has to get the MVP or it's not the Most Valuable Player award. But I never imagined Blake would make this Huge of a jump in his game, so I guess this now applies to him. SHT if we handle business (looking at our schedule) I don't see why we wouldn't finish 1st or 2nd.
Well I heard this different,I think Skip is still a dic*.
PARAPHRASE: "not even a close 3rd", "Blake doesn't play great defense, I don't see it" "he made 8 for 8 jump shot last night, was that really a fluke? Can he do it again like LeBron dropping 3s whenever he wants?"
I really cannot stand any talking head anyway. Everyone is an expert, but they can't play the game. Suit up, Skip, and go one on one with Blake. If he can't play defense you should be able to take him.
Saw a thing on a rockets board - would you rather take griffin or love. I was expecting all love, but most said blake. Was shocked but please that fans are done with calling him one dimensional
You can tell Cari Champion was salty the whole time with her Lakers ass lol.
I can't figure out why she is there - she knows nothing about sports.
Anyone ever wonder why BG hasn't received any "mvp mvp mvp" chants in Staples yet? Maybe I'm wrong but I haven't heard the fans chant for BG. BG had one of his best games of the season last night and the only chant I heard was for CP3 late in the game. I thought that was kind of a slight to BG than a compliment to CP3. It actually bothered me when that happened.
i hate both those dudes but I tend to agree with Skip more this time. Blake to me is still a liability on defense
Thought it was because he only got to the line once in the second half in the third. Usually MVP chants happen in the 4th and Blake scored his points so fast in the first in kind of caught people off guard as the players mentioned after the game. If Blake would of been at the line during the ending close I think he would of got the mvp chants.
Blake is a very good man to man and pick and roll defender far better than Kevin Love types but his help side D and rotating could use work. It's the case with both bigs though Jordan tends to lose his man on the man to man part pick and roll trying to cover open spaces. Blake and DJ have gotten better covering each others weaknesses and hopefully get continue to get better. If they both stay aggressive on the defensive glass and limit offensive rebounds the defense will look better as well.
I've been airing that same frustration for a year now. CP gets all the love and BG gets all the blame.
Not just this game, I'm talking about the last 2-3 weeks since BG was first mentioned as a MVP candidate.
Glad I'm not the only one noticing this.
No, a liability on defense would be Kevin Love, who doesn't even attempt to play it.
Does anyone believe for a second Chris Paul is texting stephen a smith "are you watching blake?" I believe Chris loves Blake's development but I doubt he is just rushing to gush to stephen a
Also I find it so annoying - first blake griffin was popular, then considered overrated when he wasn't, then kevin love was held up as the ideal 4, then Lamarcus got trendy, then Anthony Davis, and now back to blake. People just love bandwagons I guess
Gotta agree with Skippy... you can't be in the MVP discussion unless you play elite defense... like Kevin Durant. Never mind that their defensive numbers are virtually identical, it's all about the stats they don't keep... like how fast KD can run away from contact on the defensive end. He makes Usain Bolt look like a tortoise on downers.
Taking charges is for pussies! Learn from the master, Blake. If it doesn't show up in a boxscore... don't bother.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... mp;y2=2014
I think next year Blake's name will be banter around a lot more for the MVP award. He's getting there, but this year he's a distant 3rd...maybe.
Could care less what those 2 dummies say anyway.
I hear ya, our "fan base" has become almost unrecocgnizable since we've acquired CP3. We use to be the most die hard, loyal and basketball intelligent fans in the NBA.
Now if you go up to a "Clipper fan" on the street and ask them to name 4 players on the team, they'll give you 3 and 1 of them will be a fictitious alter ego of Chris Paul.
I miss the paper bag over the head Clipper fans, they'd know who the real heart of this team is.
Skip still found something to criticize in BG lol Pathetic! Is Durant good at defending?? No! Just BC you're long doesn't mean you play defense.
I agree with Skip tho. KD and Lebron are 1 and 2. Blake isn't at their level YET, but Blake is clearly #3. No question about it.
WTF.. just watched the video and somehow CP got credit for Blake's toughness? What did he do?
I think this can change so quickly. We play OKC later this season. If Blake were to have a 40 point game 12 rebounds 6 assists with 2 steals and a block to go with it while doing it efficiently and Durant stuttered a bit wouldn't the media monster start pushing Blake as the MVP.
Realistically unless OKC falls out to third I wouldn't really give it to anyone other than Durant. I think OKC is having the same problem we would have had if we kept Vinny (except I don't think Vinny was really good at any side of the ball, personally I think his best attribute was in talking to Sterling and we don't know how much Sacks did there). Brooks is a good defensive coach, but that is it. Brooks should be an assistant as far as I'm concerned. To much Iso and not enough ball movement in that offense. I think that is one of the reasons OKC is having so much trouble with meshing Westbrook back in. We have JC start come off the bench, then DC and it isn't perfect but the expectations and roles are much more outlined in Doc's offense. I think if OKC got someone like Brian Shaw or Hollins who can still coach defense while running a system on offense they would be much more dangerous which is really scary.
Oh and Skip won't give Clips credit unless the Spurs had to play in the East for the playoffs.


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How do we feel about DJ on Boozer and Blake on Noah? I feel like a lot of our rebounding troubles were due to that.
I didn't understand that move at all. Didn't seem to be effective at all either.
IMO, I think that was a smart match up for the Bulls. Noah's high activity on the boards usually causes problems for many bigs. DJ puts up solid rebounding numbers However, he still relies on his athleticism to achieve those numbers. Boozer somewhat can put him on check due to fundamental basketball and being in the right spots. Also, you usually see Boozer and Noah crashing the boards together.
Good, professional win. Got the shooting averages back up in that first half and withstood a few runs later without panicking, thanks to Blake and DC the soldier.
Now go wolves!
That's not saying much. I posted at beginning of year that he was mediocre and was constantly told how good he was and what an upgrade he was. I think the sample size is big enough, he is a mediocre player at best and always has been. He's played with point guards that always get him open looks and when he is wide open with his feet set and and no one is guarding him he can and should make a good amount of those shots. Other than that he's basically worthless.
Doesn't matter what "we" think, lol. It's what Doc thinks and me thinks he re-signs a PG particularly with DC's situation.
Great win the defense was not the best but much needed W.
Yeah the defense isn't great, and the Clipperblog folks blame Blake for regressing since Paul has gone done (possibly even before, when JJ went down). This might be true, but to be brutally honest, Blake may feel like he's had to step up his offense at the expense of a little defense. Kind of a call back to his rookie of the year style (albeit a better all around player). Frankly, I think it kinda works. If this is actually the case, I'm sure the overall defense will get better once Paul gets back. Blake will be able to get back to attacking the boards and defending because his baskets will come a little bit easier. Just speculating here.
I thought it doesn't matter what we, me you or anyone but Doc thinks so why are you even thinking about what he will do?
Just in case you forgot this is a forum where people discuss what they think. And it happens regardless of what you "think"
Thanks, I'll keep that in mine Captain.
somewhere along the line this gets forgotten. Unfortunately forums give people anonymity, and sometimes this gives people a sense of superiority or wisdom because the human contact is gone.
You mean computer who goes wow Dudley hit 40% of the 3 shots he took tonight. What an efficient player
Damn, Blake was only 3 assists away from a triple-double. He deserves more credit than people have been giving him. I can't wait to see what he'll do to the Raptors.
I think his FG% in the past two games has been atrocious so he doesn't even have that going for him
Sad but true. I don't want him to fail, on the contrary I want him to succeed but feel he has shown he doesn't deserve the minutes he is getting and is not helping our team in a high minute role.
yesterday was a good day. GS and Hou lose. Hou will lose again today. If we can get another W tonight, this trip is already a success.
The only team I'm really worried about is the Warriors, we seem to always have trouble with them. We need to make our division secure with all teams taking cared of the right way. 1-1 warriors, 1-1 Lakers 0-1 suns
Wait for it, as of right now tense is scouring the web on the latest advance stats that somehow says Dudley is effective
There's just no magic to advanced stats, it's common sense most of the time, and they are linked to something you can generally logically figure out, so you can't suck massively and have any stat magically say you are good. Dudley has been much worse offensively on the bench than starting. Of course it is two bad games, and he's been bad for two games before, but we'll see how it progresses. He was good vs Detroit and poor the last two.
The 10 games before that as a started he was averaging 9.2 pts, 50% FG, 50% 3PT in 27 minutes. Being with the starters probably benefits his abilities as a role player who plays off other guys better than being with the current bench composition till they start to maybe figure things out together.
If you go back 20 games as a starter:
9.4 pts, 46.4% FG, 43.8% 3PT
Doc said he wanted more defensive energy in the starting lineup and more offense on the bench with the move. He should get the first, but he probably isn't getting the latter if there isn't anyone for a guy like Dudley to play off of. Dudley will spread the floor better for them by sucking defenders out, but they need someone who will take advantage of that, and defenders will stick close to him in a lineup that basically sees him and Crawford as the only offensive threats.
my favorite move of the game... When Blake manhandled Noah on the block a couple minutes into the 3rd. 1. His aggressiveness was impressive. 2. His decisiveness 3. No foul call. From what I've seem before, Blake would get called for an offensive foul.
Which is exactly why I was saying reggie isn't being viewed under the same light and he was still performing just as good as Dudley in a much worse position. He has to be part of the stagnant 2nd unit and still is able to get open and put up good shots. Imagine what he could do with the starters!
Rocks warrs lose was a good night
Griffin beasting. Check out 4:30 for the 1 vs 3 rebound and putback. Awesome.
Jaca, you continue to be so amusing. Thank you.
My guess is that it was because Noah likes to play up high and pass and be mobile, while Boozer is most effective as a traditional close to the basket post player and moves around less, so Jordan can stay closer to the basket to challenge shots has help defender and Griffin can use his mobility to help out on the perimeter some. I could see us doing the same thing against Memphis for similar reasons.
Why does dj bite on so many fakes? Fool me once...
We are letting a scrub go off
I meant the current bench without a PG since Paul is injured and Collison is starting. Not sure id say he was performing just as well, not really much to make any conclusions out of.
Still, this stuff can be figured out in practice, so if he hasn't shown that in practice, then...
Terrence Ross gets the headlines... Clippers get the win. Would you rather it be the other way around?

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This is apparently a deal Steven A. Smith says he's been hearing today on First Take.
No Effing way this happens, but still interesting.
That has to be a joke. I can't believe Sacks/Roeser would even entertain the idea for a nano-second.
Clips might as well change their name to the Celtics and move to Boston and the Celtics can call themselves the Clippers and move to L.A.
Less paperwork.
And at least then we wouldn't have to hear about "16 banners" from laker fans... we could say we have 17.
Yeah, it's probably the most ridiculous rumor I've heard yet. No way the Clippers lose their true poster boy. Probably more Boston's dream than L.A.'s.
Someone needs to be drug tested,,,too much Cinco De Mayo
I'd say all the way if u replace Griffin with DJ! But w/o that it's ridiculous.
Why would we get KG & keep DJ? It'd be pointless!
I Heard That Rumor Saturday, But It Was For Jordan, Bledsoe, And Butler For Pierce And Garnett.
Hmmmmm,,,,,the wild card though, CP3. If he says,hmmmmmm very interesting idea,,,,,,if he goes, no way.
Since when can coaches be traded?
Lol coaches can't be traded. Griffin for KG is a joke KG is about to retire, Pierce is a free agent. Idiotic rumor.
Why would they want to get older?? Top priorities, go get Riddick NOW, second trade DJ and EBled for Vucevic and Affalo and find some 6-10 thug re bounder/defender and keep most of team in tact (minus Billips and Hill)
this is plain stupid. if stephen a. smith really presented this "rumor" on first take then him and his big mouth has lost all credibility with me..
I'd rather keep BG than CP. How about let's just do DJ, Bled & 1 billion draft picks for Pierce and Doc? Doc in my opinion is the best coach in the league and is worth a hefty penny.
Actually Orlando gave the Heat a draft pick to get SVG. It can happen
What a JOKE.
Capn didnt remember that, thanks. Either way atrocious trade on all levels.
Ridiculous rumor. I've never in my life heard of an all-star who has not even reached his peak yet being traded for old, declining veterans who are close to retirement. That trade doesn't even pass the common sense test.
Ummm NO
NO FU**KIN WAY!!! should the Clippers do this unless they definetely want to give up on their future & probably Chris Paul. I'll take Doc Rivers as a coach on the Clippers anyday though.
Those guys can still play, but they're starting to look real old and worthless out there.........especially Pierce.
This is just as ridiculous as that one trade proposal made (And I can't remember exactly who) by either Chris Broussard or probably Stephen A. Smith which included Blake Griffin and Eric Bledsoe or something like that to the Lakers.
First of all, the Clippers know that Blake Griffin is something special. Arguably Blake Griffin started changing the Clippers identity before CP3 join the Clippers... Blake Griffin is already a star, still improving, still young, and is one of the faces of the NBA than you have CP3 who knows this so why would CP3 allow Blake Griffin to leave? Don't get me wrong Garnett and Pierce are will respected players who have broken records and set milestones throughout there years in the NBA but Garnett and Pierce already have one foot out the door. Do the Clippers and CP3 really want one maybe two year rentals and lose Blake Griffin and Bledsoe along the way? Not even the addition of Doc Rivers would make this trade acceptable. Long story short, Blake Griffin is to the Clippers what Paul Pierce has been the Celtics throughout the years... Untouchable.
The Celtics are desperate. Enough said. The Clippers have the ball on there court regardless of what team pursues Eric Bledsoe but more so with the Celtics especially with this sign of desperation the Celtics have shown. The Clippers should counter with this trade proposal... Garnett, Green, and Doc Rivers for Jordan, Butler, and Bledsoe. The Celtics get two young assets with Jordan and Bledsoe which is a lot better than nothing plus Butler's expiring contract and the Clippers would finally get rid of Jordan (Which every Clippers fan seems to be all for) being replaced by Garnett, most likely a one year rental which is not necessarily a bad thing, who is a defensive veteran leader and Green who is a great young all around player. The addition of Doc Rivers is a plus not a must.
Possible Starting Five:
Chris Paul
Willie Green
Jeff Green
Blake Griffin
Kevin Garnett
I also heard a rumor last summer that if the Lakers got Steve Nash and Dwight Howard that they would win a championship.... LOL.
Smh at this stupid rumor. Stephen A Smith has officially lost all credibility, even though I never put much trust into his words before.
Stephen A. had credibilityy? Certainly not the general public...
How could they run such a stupid segment on espn? It literally makes zero sense.
the fact that stephen a smith said that the clippers are talking about it is mind boggling. if this happens it might go down as one of the worst trades in nba history.
what has stephen a smith been smoking? wow, one of the stupidest rumors ive heard ever. griffin is going nowhere. if anything, its DJ who leaves. Dj+ebled+caron+1st rd pick for garnett+pierce works fine. its like saying cp3 for rondo straight up makes sense.
What scares me is that Stephen A is ususally on the money. He was the first that leaked out word about the big three in miami forming. Lets hope Stephen A. is wrong
Blake griffin is a cash cow. Paul pierce and kg are ball of farmers but they are done as superstars. Here is another name that fits that description: Chauncey
Trade makes no senses at all. Aren't KG and Caron free agents? If Clips want KG, just go after him in free agency. Plus, no way Blake gets traded before DJ.
lmaoo why the hell would we trade blake? do people even realize how ridiculous that sounds?
it wont happen. KG is extremely loyal to the CEltics and doesnt want to go anywhere
BG is worth more than the entire Celtics roster lmao. Screaming A Smith should just shut up.
This is stupid trade who thinks of these things, if we werent willing to trade blake for dwight than why would we trade him for 1 year rental on players past their prime on expiring contract.. a much more fair trade would be dj, bledsoe, butler, and. 1st rounder for kg and pierce. And doc rivers isnt worth giving up 1 of our star players
Source Calls Griffin, Bledsoe To Celtics For Garnett, Pierce, Rivers Rumor 'Absurd'
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... mor-Absurd
Can't believe some people take to heart the "stuff" that flows through todays new age electronic media. Ah, the yin and yang of the internet/twitter world.
well if coach can traded now maybe owner can be traded too lol!
Even if KG wanted to be here, why the hell would we trade Blake Griffin for him and pierce? You guys realize how retarded that sounds? This sbouldnt even be discussed anymore, thats how ludicrous this is
Even if KG wanted to be here, why the hell would we trade Blake Griffin for him and pierce? You guys realize how retarded that sounds? This sbouldnt even be discussed anymore, thats how ludicrous this is
i actually thought stephan a smith had something interesting to report too.. oh wellz what a joke
This was so absurd we didn't even need a source but thanks for posting it anyway. The celtics don't have a package of players worth trading griffin for let alone adding in Bledsoe. I think we up with pierce and kg for Bledsoe Caron and dj
The source of this rumor was probably Mark Wahlberg or somebody.
Throw the prima-donnas out, players and coaches, then rev up the Ping Pong Machine and hire D league 10 dayer's contracts. Change the name to the 'Developers'.......................................................... . any disagreements?
lmfao good one
This was announced by Stephen A?
It seems more like it came from Bill Simmons, the ultimate Clipper hater.
Steven A. Smith probably started out by saying that Doc Rivers, Blake Griffin, Kevin Garnett, and Paul Pierce were close dear friends of his.
Bill Simmons is actually a Clippers season ticketholder. I never knew Stephen A was such a Celtics fan because this is clearly something that can only come from the mind of a Celtics fan. It's like Clipper homer Michael Smith spreading a rumor that NBA circles are discussing a trade that will send James Harden to the Clippers for Grant Hill. Makes no sense.


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I might go to this game, haven't decided. Last time I went to a Spurs game was that awful one in which they were blown out at home by over thirty points after all star game last season. That game was so bad, it was as if the air was sucked out of the building almost immediately. Very awkward. Hopefully they play better this time! They have a chance if they execute like they did against the wizards.
Come on CP, we need you. Hoping for DJ to have a good game too.
Stephen Jackson time to step up your game offensively.
A seven game road trip and our first game is against the machine that is the Spurs? Who made the schedule?
Time for the guys to step up or shut up! I am looking at you two in particular CP and BG.
We can't have any duds from anybody if we want to win this game. We can't win if BG & CP are the only ones putting in work.
Ugghh this game scares the living **** out of me. I honestly don't see a way we can beat this team even if they are playing just half way decent. Spurs just never stop striking, we can't ever let up.
This is going to be my first clipper game. By the way, if anyone's looking to go to the game against the Pelicans on the 18th, I have 2 tickets worth $200 each. Section 111 row 10. I'm selling both for $300. Let me know if you guys are interested.
A scary game yes. But at least we saw our offense in action against the Wizards to give us some hope. But as you say we will have to be firing on all cylinders to beat the Poppovich Machine.
A win would be pretty damn sweet!
I ill not be going because every time I do go to this game we lose. Generally though the Spur's fans are not too much of tools when they get us but I will fall on the grenade and sit this one out.
I did see a guy win a car at a Spurs game though.
Hope Crawford is back in the starting line up, though not sure since we need help against their much better bench.
i would think crawford will start and come out a little early and go back in with the bench
he did play like 38 minutes last game
spurs are just too good so we will see
its going to be a good game
I'm afraid we lose tonight in a close one. I think we need Barnes and Redick (and everybody) to get the best of that team. Splitter is coming back just in time to play us so that's awesome too.
On the bright side, we have a number of relatively easy ones coming up in the next 2 weeks. Redick is gonna miss another 14 games and I think we'll win 10 of them including a probable loss tonight.
How can Doc not start Jamal again! Night and day difference in that first unit with him out there. I thought he did a good job of playing that starter role and not giving us too much Jamal-against-the-world during the 1st and 3rd quarters.
Willie still played badly and even if it's a coincidence, Duds actually contributed against Wiz.
Stick with what's working.
saturdays game was very revealing on good Dudley can be. Now it's time to see if this type of performance can be repeated by Dudley. consistency will be the focus now
Think Dudley will have a strong game again. He may be a player that responds better with less pressure and as the 4th option starting games he may be more relaxed and his knee being more healed than it was when JJ was playing. If he can't find his shot then I don't know what we can do. Jordan and Griffin have to dig deep on defense and hit the glass strong and same for Paul on Parker. We need aggressive Wizards game Paul and early season Blake with the lack of bench scoring we will get tonight. Blake and Paul need to get minimum twenty shots up each and try and get to the line early.
Need to gain some separation as the Suns Dragic and Bledsoe combo have been on fire and are right in place to take the 4th seed spot.
Not expecting anything special today. Seems just about every team coming back from a road trip ( especially cross country) never does well opening up a home stand. No expectations today keeps me from losing my sanity.
You sir are a smart man. The lower the expectations, the less high blood pressure concerns there are
CP3 has to score a lot today 30+ and Crawford with a +20 game, maybe we can steal this game. But the spurs bench is so tough, oh man. Hopefully Captain Jack has some good hints or the bench will be outscored a lot!
Wasn't he always the 4th option though? In the beginning of the season, he was shooting well 48/39 through 15 games, but he wasn't being assertive in taking shots. He was trying overly hard to be a team player, and looked like moving was a chore for him.
The first 4 games of the season, despite his 5 point start, he was at 10 pts / 28 mins / 50% FG / 50% 3PT (4 3PA).
The last 9 games before yesterday (games after Chicago game) he averaged 7.4 points in 30.9 MPG! He shot 34.2% FG and 22.2% 3PT.
I don't know, seems like he played better after he put more pressure on himself to play better. Still, in the end, if the man is still suffering from injury, we can't expect any consistency, and one good game in 10 is not adequate.
LMAO... SO many posts indicate that they is so little faith and hope in the Clippers' skill. Why are there so many people who think this will be the toughest game ever? The Spurs are very beatable , I really don't understand why people act like this game is so against our odds to win like the Spurs are a Porsche and the Clippers are a Toyota Corolla?
Is this forum actually a Clippers forum? So many jokes of so-called "fans" haha i'm starting to take only a handful of posters seriously as of late.
I think our starting lineup will do well but our bench will be butchered. I predict a 25/25 scoreline in the first quarter and as soon as the bench comes in the Spurs go on a huge run.
The Spurs have the best bench in the league by far. It is strong on both ends of the court.
Hope you're right. I am a 100% homer supporter (and sometimes member).
But still short handed and egos still a bit bruised from 2 weeks of getting smacked around against the Leastern Conference. I am firmly in the ClipperJoe camp for tonight. A win is possible and would be outstanding but I won't jump off the Venice Pier if we lose.(the fall wouldn't kill me but I am the Ryan Gomes of swimming prowess. Sure to sink to the bottom and never be seen again.)
A fan supports a team and will be loyal to them win or lose. Every poster here falls into that category. Expressing concern or doubt on our teams ability to win against one of the top teams in the west doesn't make one less of a fan. And thinking our team can and will beat anyone doesn't make one a "better" or "true" fan.
I'm eager to see how the Doc Rivers system works vs the Spurs. Chris Paul vs Tony Parker- let's see who comes out top; same goes with BG/DJ vs Tim Duncan.
Another thing is a lot of us still are having trouble with the fact we have a really good team. we have lived for so much with mediocrity it may take years for us to get over the hump.
IMHO the biggest difference I see for years and years against the Spurs is they seem to get us with their height and packing the paint. We have trouble with that. We can out run them any day of the week,but running for 48 minutes is a bit too hard.
This will be interesting though,but again IMHO CP3> Parker hands down.
The biggest difference in my opinion are the role players. The Spurs have much better role players. Kawhi>>>Dudley. The Spurs bench>>>our bench, etc.
This is true. They basically have all the things the Clippers need.
Stretch big man (edit: that hits at a high percentage, gotta clarify that)
Elite defensive anchor
6th man who can be used as not just a scorer, but also a faciltator
They are sort of the blueprint of what the Clippers should be seeking to, not because every team should seek that, but because they have very similar personnel in terms of their stars.
Of course, it took them a couple of years of tweaking after their main guys were no long all in their prime together. Also it would be easier if Blake was an elite defensive big man and a PF/C, gives a lot more flexibility in the lineups.
Still, something similar, but with tweaks to fit what the Clippers have.
EDIT: It is interesting because based on how people judge rosters / players, " raw stats" (20/10), many people would look at Duncan and think Blake is a higher impact or better player because Duncan "only" averages 13.7 / 8.8. Of course, Duncan plays 27 MPG, so his stats won't be as pretty, but Duncan is an elite defender and come playoffs, he's playing 33-35 MPG.
Then he's a superior playoffs scorer and rebounder to BG (and I don't mean prime, I mean the old man), and far superior defensively. So despite no "20/10 woot!", he's a higher impact player by a decent margin.
It's a difficult place to be. The past two years have seen two playoff appearances with a second, then first round exit. I think this year may be very telling of where we are headed. We may either fall into that perennial playoff team that never wins a championship like Utah was, Atlanta, or other middle of the pack teams or we may turn this franchise around with a championship this year. Only time will tell I guess.
I think what I'm alarmed at is that recently it seems as if the teams that win a title either won it immediately like Boston did with their big three or the following year like the Lakers did with Pau & Kobe or Miami with their big three. Teams like Utah never really went over the hump with Williams, Boozer, and those squads. I kind of feel as if this could very well happen to us too
It is possible, but all depends on how the team continues to be built. Utah was really a first / second round team who lucked their way into a WCF beating (their first time in and then never got back) because Golden State upset Dallas one year.
They never had elite or high level defense, which is still the Clippers limiting factor before anything else. Okur and Boozer just weren't guys to produce that, Kirilenko was maximized at PF, not at SF, but couldn't play it, and Sloan was still using some slightly antiquated defensive:
Not enough emphasis on 3PT defense (decent though, can't fault them too much here)
Hey Ron, on a side note how do you feel about the Sarkisian hiring down at USC?
It's going to be a tough game.
But I think the boost we get from the home crowd after being on the road for so long gives us the edge tonight.
Also would like to see how the new and improved DJ plays against Tim Duncan, he actually plays him pretty solid.
The key will be how CP3 and BG plays and how aggressive they are. Along with Dudley making shots.
When JJ gets back I honestly believe he can be the best role player in the league. Dudley was the ideal role playing SF when on PHX, hopefully he gets back to that. DC isn't good enough of a facilitator to run our bench's offense like the Spurs bench, but I think he'll become a good defender and he's still a decent 3PT shooter.
DJ is our defensive anchor and he's better than Splitter. I can't compare Blake to what Duncan has done for the Spurs even recently because that's not fair, but he's an Elite PF.
I don't think it's out of the question to compare us when healthy to the Spurs. Right now we aren't even in the same league as the Spurs though. We've also had a way tougher schedule than them and untimely injuries.
hardest home game is that of which your just coming back from a long road trip...
This will probably be no exception i don't expect the W tonight, but would be nice to get it anyways..
I think our games against San Antonio will be good markers. We hopefully can see continuous improvement in our game today, then there in Jan, then back at home in Feb. Hopefully we get better each game, but these would be markers since they all got some time to improve between them.
I would like to see improvements in the following areas:
DJ- continuing to improve as our defensive anchor, as well as one on one post defender, and maybe giving him a post up when matched against lesser opposition.
Blake- more decisive on the offensive end (maybe a little more selfishness with the ball), continuing to improve on the defensive end
Bench- overall improvement, not relying so much on Jcross, and Stephen Jackson leading them defensively
Paul- be more aggressive early on in games
Dudley- continue to improve on his fg%
Collison- be a little more of what we expected, running the offense.
I would say Dudley was the third option when starting next to Green. With Crawford in it should relieve the pressure of needing him to cover for Green slumping and his own.
As mentioned he was not great with JJ but even still at this point you would hope the knee is making some progress.
Lets hope Jackson wants some revenge tonight and gets hot with the 3 ball.
My expectations are pretty low tonight. lol
Not because I don't have faith in our guys. But SA is playing like a well oiled machine as usual and fairly healthy. We are not. And first games back from a road trip are always challenging. This will be a tough one. Hopefully our guys show some heart.
I don't think his knee is making much progress since he has gotten much rest.
Not happy at all with it. Admittedly coach "O" had a small sampling but why would anyone take a coach with a .675 winning percentage for one with , who at his best, brought his team to a .500 team. It wouldn't have hurt a bit to keep coach "O" on,these are kids they were having fun finally. Haden does not seem to like fun.
Not too many SC fans, alumni (the ones I know) or players are happy with it but what can we do. Pat Haden is the yes and front man for the NCAA and it seems he goes out of his way to not do anything the fans want. It's seems to have been his mantra since he took his yes man job.
I will file this under IT WOULD BE NICE IF...
...Jamal Crawford just WENT OFF tonight! I mean, if there's one guy on our team that could flat out explode no matter how Spurs defended him, it would be Jamal. No pressure though. lol
This just in - the majority (as in 16) of the 19 wins the spurs have are to - you guessed it - losing teams.
Yeah, I've got to admit I feel the same. I am expecting a loss but would be so so happy with a win.
...Blake Griffin had the 40/20 game we all know he's capable of.
(That goes in the same file)
I am a Bruin fans, so I don't follow USC much but my take is
that they need to find a coach outside of the Pete Carroll coaching tree
Jackson trying to get revenge could always backfire into chucking unnecessary shots. Better he just play good basketball.
Really interesting thing about the team so far is the "inability" to win on the road. Of course the disproportionate road to home (15/10) affects the overall record in itself, but still.
Home: 8-2
Road: 8-7
Usually the saying is that "your role players struggle on the road". Let's see if this is the Clippers situation. We'll look at more summary stats since we have good samples
Road: 19.5 / 4.5 / 10.6 / .584 TS% / 121 Ortg / 34.8 mins
Road: 19.9 / 10.1 / 3.2 / .545 TS% / 106 Ortg / 37.4 mins
Road: 14.5 / 2.6 / 2.4 / .554 TS% / 33.3% 3PT / 111 Ortg / 29.6 mins
Road: 16.9 / 2.5 / 2.5 / .551 TS% / 107 Ortg / 29.0 mins
Jordan (blks)
Road: 9.3 / 13.2 / 2.3 / .581 TS% / 109 Ortg / 34.7 mins
There are the "bigger name" players. They are all decently consistent road vs home, more minutes on the road probably also due to road trip happening with Redick injured. A little less productive on offense, but that happens, seems like it is coming from turnovers for all of them. DJ has a drastic offensive drop. Paul does too, but he goes from amazing to a little less amazing, so it's hard to say much. I mean his "below average" is still really good for other players.
Now the role players:
Road: 7.9 / 1.9 / 1.8 / .475 TS% / 27.2% 3PT / 94 Ortg / 29.9 mins
Road: 7.3 / 2.2 / 1.7 / .546 TS% / 98 Ortg / 18.4 mins
Road: 1.9 / 1.6 / 0.0 / .570 TS% / 80 Ortg / 9.2 mins
Road: 5.2 / 1.5 / 0.8 / .406 TS% / 81 Ortg / 19.1 mins
Road: 4.1 / 3.5 / 0.4 / .404 TS% / 79 Ortg / 12.9 mins
Road: 2.6 / 1.2 / 0.2 / .444 TS% / 83 Ortg / 10.0 mins
Dudley goes from useful offensive player despite low PPG and ignoring his other mishaps to Byron Mullens on the road.
Willie only played 2 games at home and 11 on the road, so it doesn't really signify anything to look at his numbers except that he's been bad in general.
Jamison similarly hasn't played that many games, so his are hard to say anything from except that he's been bad overall offensively.
Bullock I can understand being a rookie, he's still adjusting to a lot of things, not all rookies adjust as fast as others
Hollins for his game has an odd drastic drop, weird, but again, it's not a large enough sample to get carried away, how was he last year, his career?
This is possibly one of the advantages of a more defensive oriented / solid defensive bench. Defense usually doesn't go away in road vs home, so while some role players are less consistent on offense on the road, if their strength is defense, then it remains consistent.
Now of course, we have to take into account that correlation doesn't equal causation. Dudley might have just had most of his bad games on the road without it relating to being on the road. It would probably be better to check his career numbers to see if there is a pattern, then it can be more conclusive.
Okay, so I checked...
Dudley Career
So it's not a career pattern, lol
Also injuries and loss of depth has muddied the waters cause if guys were playing more accustomed roles and minutes, it might be different.
Still, it is something to at least think about.
im going to be at staples for the game tonight, so coming in with the same outlook. expect the worst hope for the best.
It seems lately the only 40/20 games BG has been putting up are 40min/20pt games. Blake's WAAAYY overdue for having one of his patented Blake Griffin games.
Chris needs to feed him the damn ball when he asks for it. On the road trip Blake would call for the ball so many times in the post and get left with nothing more than a great P.O.V. of a 3 ball flying over his head.


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How about a new Lazy Mom DESSERT Recipe to put in your Lazy Mom cooking repertoire?
How about we all sit around over a pan of these and talk about how jiggly our thighs are and sing kumbaya together?
Well okay, I thought maybe if I threw that one in there you'd all want to do that with me, but whatever.
Anyway, Lazy Mom Beth who has sent in past Lazy Mom Recipes for us to enjoy has done it again! Her latest submission makes me want to kiss her and then smack her all at the same time.
A kiss for the easy dessert recipe.
A smack for the damage it will do to my thighs.
But I'm sure you all knew that already.
Lazy Cake Cookies:
1 box yellow or white cake mix
2 eggs beaten
5 Tablespoons melted butter
2 Cups M&M's or mini chocolate chips
Mix together, put in a greased 9×13 pan and bake at 350 for 20 min!
After looking at that picture I just have two words for you….
I think I'll be making these soon. BUT only if the family is here to help me eat them or I may eat the whole thing by myself. And that would just be terrible for that jiggly thigh disease I have.
What? It's a real disease. It's just never been labeled till now. As in right now this minute.
I'm sure the medical community will be contacting me soon to learn more about this atrocious disease and how it affects millions every day.
I'm sure they will give me awards and accolades over it.
I'm sure they will make me the case study once they see these bad boys I sport around.
Aren't you so glad you read this blog? I mean where else would you hear so much talk about jiggly thighs?
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|18th May 2010 12:41 PM
Very well said. In the original conception of the sport, when it was booming, the "funboard" was the workhorse and a shortboard was something you considered unpacking when it was 20 knots and over.
Now some newbies buy their 130 ltr/6.5 and bob around in a gusty inland 8 knots, expecting to plane.
I started out on a longboard and in light winds, little can compare. Even the best raceboard pales in comparison to the Windsurfer OD's upwind angle in 5 knots. Then again, you can paddle a SUP or kayak faster upwind in that wind. It's all very finicky obsessive/compulsive stuff that rewards a minority of hardcore light wind sailors ( a crowd who's champions often get pared down to the 140 lb triathletes and anorexic asians ... kidding).
Now, if a typical north american windsurfer invests that same energy into packing the car and choosing a coastal/ great lakes, river destination on a steady 15-knots and over day, you'll see greater return from a standard shortboard quiver than any uber-expensive custom raceboard setup. You;ll get stronger and more...um, "rough n ready" with a dozen good shortboard seshes than a whole season of lightwind longboard. A new raceboard is redonkulous cash. A used longboard likely has neon pink footstraps, and is made by a derelict company with a three letter acronym for a name, you choose! A used formula is less onerous, even if it's breaky. And chix diggit, think of the money you'll save in bars.
Yes longboards have great glide, upwind railing and "carry" when they're up and planing, but the jibing is inherently chunky. Planing through is a pro level thing, the radius is fixed. Shortboards have gotten very refined and have power in jibes and you can really lock in and experience true acceleration and airtime. It's a function of having less mass.
And wide shortboards are more predictable and easier to balance on. A lower center of buoyancy, usually below the waterline, is actually easier to slog around on than a high volume longboard, which can be like standing on a log, even though slogging a shortboard is tiring and boring, and a longboard in those same conditions is graceful and responsive.
Want to know what the kids are doing these days? They're buying freestyle boards and going out on 5.4's in 9 knots just to slog around and light wind freestyle, ie helitack waterstart, gecko, falling in. Boring to watch but it's useful practice. They're buying 18m Foil Kites and cruising in 5 knots, no questions asked. What they're not doing is worrying about a board's waterline length or weather or not a 11.5m Vapor is going to pull you in 7.99 knots. They're also not debating on anonymous internet forums or faxing intimidating letters to Windsport like highwind Steve from Maui who thinks longboards are for grandmas or lightwind Dave who thinks anyone who owns a 80 ltr board must be a six figure alpha elitist who owns half of Hood River. If the wind isn't there, there are other things to do that will give you a workout, bikes, skate, snow, surf. Slogging around on a 99l is tedious, but when the wind comes, they'll be ready.
|28th October 2008 04:55 PM
Hi All,
Star-Board will introduce next year a complete new Phantom Race with a new construction. The new shape give you a better and more consistent speed up wind with the dagger board. The deck is totally new with something never see before to help you to get on the rail quickly but also to have power in super light wind when you are not on the rail. So up wind the new shape make great improvement in all condition.
Reaching & downwind the new one get a quicker planning and get a better top end speed with more control. Jibe is more smooth and you keep your speed during all the jibe.
All the best
Kombat 86 with S1 5,3
iSonic 86, 111, 133 with Code Red from 5,6 to 10m�
Formula Experience 160 with Overdrive 11m�
Formula Windsurfing One Design with 11m�
|25th October 2008 09:20 PM
Longboarding in nonplaning conditions is a state of mind. Some people like it, some don't. Nonplaning longboarding was the entirety of windsurfing for awhile, and managed to be very popular! Those people were not ignorant savages waiting for the arrival of planing windsurfing...they just tried a longboard and loved the experience.
I have a longboard (a Superlight) and would like a Go as well (as a forgiving nonplaning freestyle platform). Today however I'm off to spend some quality time with my 77 liter hotrod.
Here is another Caesar freestyle video (I shot this last November):
|25th October 2008 03:25 PM
Back to the good old Van Den Berg Raceboards .
Super light , virtuel industructable , perfect shape and everything worked on this board .
A 15 year old model is the father of the Phantom Race unfortunatly one of the "wide point in the back " inferior ones .
If you don't know the first rules about hydrodynamics don't shape raceboards .
|25th October 2008 05:38 AM
hafid petitioner
THE biggest stumbling block is the ability or otherwise of cobra to build boards with daggerboards down to weight and straight. So far it has yet to be proven.
Is it time to get rid of the "production" board ony rule for raceboard?
|24th October 2008 12:22 AM
I have been following the longboard thing for a year now and thinking of getting back into racing again.
now the following is all my opinion about whats hot what is not and maybe just maybe : what will be.
Right now there seems to be three forces at play. Formula at one end, longboard at the other and the "weak" hybrid in the middle.
Lets start with the Hybrid:
IMHO its on the way out, and this includes the RSX .
Why?? well here is a big reason, Starboard has for all intents dropped their line, no doubt after much deliberation . When the biggest Board Co. does that : its NO small move , its is a big thing!! The only contrary notion to this argument is that hybrid ( Bic) is Olympic and a big feeder in france is the Bic hybrid (and dont put france on the back burner, that is a sailing country!!)
To add the RSX is a dog, many racers ( steve bodner for example , tried it for an olympic bid then sold ...fast ( and I almost bought his used setup)
Its slower then a longboard in light airs and slower then a formula in medium heavy.
Its got the tough job of being the middle.
Its tactical yes, that its only strong point , BUT so is a longboard at all windspeeds.
If it loses to a formula setup in the Olympics , send you flowers to the Hybrid funeral.
Which brings me to Formula.
I would say formula was going to wane a bit , except for the starboard push.
Board durability, big masts and sails with resultant big money is finding middle of the road adherents giving up and getting back into the longboard or not trying it at all. Now this is not just me saying this, this is the word on the street in the US midwest. A place where a longboard revival going on.
People looking for a durable OD class will pass it by.
If it gets it olympic due, it will get bigger. But for many which some former racers,trying to race agiainst longboards in open reagattas, they are too tired of sitting on the beach .And the costs are just too extreme.
Which brings me back to the longboard.
Longboard revival:the fact people are talking is a big deal. It appeals many, the beginner , and the person who wants strict One design racing without the costs ie: kona.
appeal is there for the all out racer with the 380 designs.
Sail manufacturers are jumpiong on the longboard sails bandwagon , thats a biggie too.
So i would say in my opinion the longboard is stronger and getting stronger.
Hybrid well sorry, the writing is on the wall, people are out to get it , and well other then the olympics its "just dont fit" .
Formula will always have its adherents , albeit a specailized group, and it could fly higher with olympic tenure.
But the big winnner is the longboard.
|23rd October 2008 12:06 AM
Short and wide
It is short wide boards that are the most enjoyable boards for most people in most conditions.
In my opinion short wide boards have revolutionised windsurfing and have made the sport easier to learn and have fun.
Starboard have been the leaders in that revolution and deserve out thanks.
|22nd October 2008 08:41 PM
|Aussie John
Well the revival is now a reality! This post sums up what alot of people are thinking, proving that alot of manufacturers over the years were wrong in there board manufacturing lineup and have damaged windsurfing. I am so happy longboards are back and I can't wait to get my feet on a new one. Well done Starboard, Exocet, Mistral and the LBWS Journal.
Happy Days
|16th September 2007 08:43 PM
Why I love longboards
Yes longboards are very cool. I remember the first time foots straps on longboards hit the stores. I still have a delaminated F2 lightning under the house and cant seem to throw it out. So many good memories. I like the sound of this new website 'Longboard Windsurfing'
I will be keen to see if there is a revival.
|5th September 2007 11:25 PM
I suspect it does, yet another bonus. Would like to do a full compare, more on that soon I hope if I can find one, preferably Kona-sponsored in case I break something ;-)
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If they get David west to be our center that means for sure dj will be package with Bledsoe and hopefully they trade butler with all those guys off the books we can get pierce after he is bought out for veterans minimum. We can sign jk redick or Kyle korver or on ok mayo. We will also have enoughy to sign Matt barness back. If we get lucky we can ask celtics to release Garnett or trade him to us. I know it's a lot but honestly it's possible!
The ideal clippers depth chart 2013-2014
C David west or Garnett/hollins/2013 2nd round draft pick
Pf griffin/frye/2013 1st round draft pick
Sf pierce/barnes
Sg mayo or korver or jk redick/Crawford/green
Pg cp3/ billups/ Maalik Wayns
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I can't see DWest playing and being successful @C in the West Conf but he'd be a helluva backup PF on next yrs team.
West is 6'8 BTW guys. Griffin has dominated for stretches at C but I dont like the idea long term. We need somebody like Pokovic, Asik, Vujevic or Andre Drummond. Huge centers who love to play physical and are consistent.
Love this scenario. I still think would should pursue Al Jefferson or Milsap and offer Utah DJ or Caron if KG/Truth can't be had.
I don't think he would be our center. He's a PF, and only 6' 9". I'm sure he would be BG's backup.
If David West would accept being a back up PF and occasional C when the opposing lineup is small, I would say this is absolutely my favorite rumor so far.
David West is a winner at the highest order, he's tuff as nails, he's as smart as any big in the league, and he's got a wet jumper.
He is not a center but I'm sure he won't be a back up to dj and if he leaves Indiana I'm sure he wants to draya. Starter so he has to play center unless Blake does
DW come to LA.
I doubt West thinks he's nearing the twilight of his career to take a pay cut and a back seat. Plus, he's going to be paid nearly double what we can offer him. And also the Pacers are playing really well and have a bright future. He did come out and say he loves the Pacers and is open to re-signing. IMO, chances are slim to none.
BG or West at the 5 is not a good idea assuming DJ will be moved with Bled. I'd rather try and sign Al Jefferson.
^Interestingly enough, West probably defends far better at C than Al, lol
He's 6'8 like Elton Brand is 6'8. His effective basketball height is more like 6'11 because of his very long wingspan. He has length similar to LaMarcus Aldridge, I think a 9'2 standing reach. I don't think he's the best option at C, but he would certainly fit well on this roster with Paul and Blake.
Not sure I agree with Pekovic when it comes to defense, but you obviously know Drummond and Vucevic are not options. Asik could be, but he's really not better than DJ, he's a poor finisher even thou he rebounds and defends better. He doesn't stretch the floor and he's also a bad FT shooter. I'd toe my chances with DJ.
You guys all realize that if West is signed for the full MLE, it's not possible to sign any other free agents to contracts greater than the minimum or using any other exceptions (I don't think the Clips have any others available). So we can't sign West then go out and sign Mayo or Korver or Redick, and Barnes can't get a pay raise.
Just be aware of that. The other players will be coming through trade, not FA signing. With that said, I see no reason why he takes this pay cut and I believe this rumor has no substance
Sign and trade. Butler DJ and Bledsoe for west and granger. Then we'd have money to bring back Barnes and maybe grab a JJ or OJ or KK
David West would be great- deadly on offense with his jumpers and solid defensively as well. But yeah I doubt he'd come for MLE. Sign and trade would be the most possible route.
BTW added a poll to the opening post.
why would we go after a Pf????????? We have 2 gigantic holes - c and sg. That is where we need to spend our $$$.
Yeah, that would be great, but there's no way Indiana would do it. They already have all the positions that Butler, DJ and Bledsoe play filled. I don't think they're interested in acquiring high-priced back-ups just to say they got something for West.
I think in today's game with so few actual Cs it's very possible to get by with complimenting styles of PFs, an inside and an outside version. They may struggle a little against the dominant Cs but our shitty C (Jordan) struggled too. If we aren't getting a top 5 C we might as well have two kick ass PFs. Heck, JJ Hickson was a better C this year than DJ and he's only a PF.
Omer Asik not better than DJ Agent? Joke right? 2nd or 3rd best rebounder in NBA and a superb post defender who's incredibly physical. Sure his offense isnt much better than DJ's but his defense, rebounding and IQ obliterate DJ.
exactly, DW is not a great defender either. we would be slow as hell with DW Butler and Billups out there. Stupid move. Could this just be smoke to hide the fact that their getting ready to rehire VDN?
Yeah, that would be great, but there's no way Indiana would do it. They already have all the positions that Butler, DJ and Bledsoe play filled. I don't think they're interested in acquiring high-priced back-ups just to say they got something for West.
If a stud on your team wants to leave you'll try to recover whatever you can for him. You don't just let them walk for nothing if you don't have to. They have no back up PG on the roster after this season either, and Caron saves them money at SF
^^^ Yeah, I just don't see it happening. I seriously doubt Bledsoe is going to want to back up George Hill and with all the money Indiana has tied up in Hibbert, they're not going to want to also pay $10 million a year to his back up. I just think there's going to be better options for Indiana if West is intent on leaving. But maybe that means bringing a 3rd team in to take DJ. Who knows. I'm just not holding my breath for this to happen.
david west is a great player but it doesnt make any sense. neither west or griffin can play C long term and west is definitely not coming off the bench.
Should we file this trade rumor in the same bin as the Clippers pursuing Howard rumor. 8)
Not sure this makes sense at all. No way a guy that good backs up anyone. He is a total PF....unless we decide we want a BIG frontline and he's our new SF.
David West for Head Coach???
very weird to have a guy that does fit linked to the squad. no way the dude would use his free agency to sign with a team on the cheap to come off the bench. i know i wouldnt.
This feels like when we had that rumor about Milsap. Kinda didn't make sense.
West is a (much) better odom , so yes it makes sense and would be a nice addition + hes cheaper than him right now if he takes the MLE.
It's a test.
Asik brings a lot of similar problems, is a worse finisher than DJ, and without a solid defensive system doesn't look that much better defensively. He shot a career high 56.5% FT. He's just as likely to digress in his FT shooting like DJ did this season. He was at 45.6% and 50.2% the previous two seasons.
His blocks /36 went down from 2.5 to 1.3, most likely because he couldn't be as big of a shot blocking threat without fouling (this is with the understanding than more blocks doesn't necessarily mean good defense, but it could). GREAT rebounder, which is one of his biggest defensive impacts. 31.0 DRB%, that's just superb.
He anchored a 16th ranked rockets defense his DRTG was 3.1 pts/100 better than the team defensively. According to on/off numbers, Houston was 5.8 pts/100 better defensively with him on the court. Of course who comes off the bench for you matters and having poor defenders off the bench will make you look better as opposed to good ones.
DJ "anchored" an 8th ranked defense and his DRTG was 3.6 pts/100 better than the team defensively. According to on/off numbers, Clippers were 6.4 pts/100 worse on defense with DJ on the court.
Of course DJ was on the court with poor defenders like Butler, Billups, and even Blake who was only average at best, while the bench consisted of good defenders like Bledsoe, Barnes, and Odom. To get a better feel:
Blake: defense 8.1 pts/100 worse with him on
Billups: defense 7.2 pts/100 worse with him on
Paul: defense 5.4 pts/100 worse with him on
Butler: defense 5.3 pts/100 worse with him on
DJ played 2008 minutes during the season. He was on the court for about 68 total minutes WITHOUT Blake.
Then you ask, what about Odom, he had a 99 Drtg, played with Blake a decent amount too. The team was 9.7 pts/100 better defensively with Odom. Odom played 325 minutes / 1616 with Blake on the floor. 75 minutes with Butler, and 42 of those were also with Blake, and was never on the court with Bullups.
Yes, if you play with all the better defenders and avoid playing with all the bad/mediocre ones, you will have better defensive numbers than someone who is mainly playing with the poorer defenders.
Asik is an improvement in rebounding and overall defense. Defense is a team issue though, and he's not a KG type to change that alone, and even KG could only do so much with some of the Minnesota teams. He's worse offensively, a worse finisher, also clogs the lane and he's similarly bad as a FT shooter. You're placing too high expectations of how much he would help this team. It wouldn't be the difference between 56 games and 60 games, though it could arguably have helped against Memphis.
LaMarcus Aldridge should have manned up and played C. A fairly strong guy who is 6'11 and has a 7'5 wingspan and 9'2 standing reach should be embarrassed to have his 6'9 teammate playing C. What more tools do Bosh or KG have to play C?
There's no way Hickson has better tools than that to play C. Was Hickson better than DJ though? Blazers were 26th in Drtg. An already bad defensive team was better with him on the bench. His defensive rebounding numbers were a career high, but when you factor in playing next to LaMarcus Aldridge who rebounds defensively like Andrea Bargnani, it's not as impressive. He averaged 0.8 blks/36 and I remember reports of the Blazers being on of the worst in the league in FG% in the paint or something like that. His numbers were nicer, but I'm a little cautious if that meant he was a better C or just a better offensive player, certainly not better as a rebounder or defender. The rebounding numbers are an outlier that came playing next to LMA.
Agent I never called Asik a dominant defensive anchor or a KG. Bottom line is he's a substantial upgrade over DJ defensively and on the boards and using Drtg isn't smart because it's a team stat. Anybody who watches basketball knows with conviction that he blows DJ away. I agree offensively he's equally as bad and from the line but at least he gives you excellent post D and rebounding, something DJ doesn't.
There's no way Hickson has better tools than that to play C. Was Hickson better than DJ though? Blazers were 26th in Drtg. An already bad defensive team was better with him on the bench. His defensive rebounding numbers were a career high, but when you factor in playing next to LaMarcus Aldridge who rebounds defensively like Andrea Bargnani, it's not as impressive. He averaged 0.8 blks/36 and I remember reports of the Blazers being on of the worst in the league in FG% in the paint or something like that. His numbers were nicer, but I'm a little cautious if that meant he was a better C or just a better offensive player, certainly not better as a rebounder or defender. The rebounding numbers are an outlier that came playing next to LMA.
DJ had 12 double doubles all season long. JJ hickson had 40! He averaged a double double. 12.7 and 10.4 vs 8.8 and 7.2. im definitely not saying hes a better defender but he is a better player and could be counted on down the stretch. 67% FT shooting vs 38%! Thats where all the difference can be right there. give up the one block for and extra 4 points and 2 rebounds any day. most of DJs blocks were straight out of bounds and the other team got the ball back anyway.
JJ Hickson isnt a C but played the role of one this season and played it better than DJ did. those are facts. ID rather have him
I'm not saying that you called him that, but I'm saying that if the teams defensive system doesn't upgrade also, you'd need more than just a better defender to improve the team defense. You need a player with anchor level impact to do that, and even those guys can only do so much.
You are right about DRTG, but you are saying the same thing I said in my post. That's why I mentioned their defensive rating in comparison to their own team, the difference with them on and off, and with DJ also the impact of who he is playing with. I am very aware that DRTG is a team stat, that's why I didn't directly compare each players DRTG because that means nothing. I compared it to their OWN teams. That isn't absolute but has some staring comparative value and gives us a picture.
I've seen Asik play, he does certain things better, but he isn't a significantly better player. Now I'll also go back in terms of defensive rebounding, Asik had a career high, fairly significantly higher than his previous rates. Defensive rebounding is also something I believe needs context.
Here are the per 36 and DRB% for Houston's starting PF's:
Morris: 4.9, 15.2%
Patterson: 4.4 / 13.6 (same as Delfino and Parsons)
Donatas: 3.8 / 11.9 (same as Harden and Beverly)
Well you ask, is it him rebounding so well, or is it that they are bad, so lets look at their DRB% before:
Morris: Phoenix (12.9) / Houston last season (10.6)
Patterson: Sacramento (16.1) / Houston first two years (14.2)
So Asik got plugged next to three poor defensive rebounding PF's, and his DRB% went up 6-7% compared to his career. He's a good rebounder, very good, but 9.9 Drebs/36 and 31% DRB might overstate it a little bit.
It's similar to Reggie:
Toronto (Bargnani): 10.2 Dreb/36, 25.6 DRB%
Clippers: 8.0 Dreb/36, 20.9 DRB%
Nets (Lopez): 11.5 Dreb/36, 26.7 DRB%
Still a good rebounder as a Clipper, but not as dominant looking. Reggie wasn't getting better or worse on the defensive glass, he just went from playing with awful rebounding big men to better rebounding big men.
Double doubles also require points, and any statistical feat requires minutes. Jordan played 24.5 MPG, Hickson played 29.
4.5 more minutes is a lot of time to get 2 pts and 2 Rebs in 28/68 remaining games that DJ didn't have a double double. DJ averages 0.36 pts and 0.29 Rebs every minute he's on the floor. You give him 4.5 more minutes, on average he will give you 1.62 pts and 1.3 rebounds. Lets say 1/3 is average, 1/3 is below and 1/3 is above, that would give him another 23 (1/3 of 68 ) double doubles on the season (35 total). Sadly he would not be a different or better player than he is because of that. You're looking at it the wrong way if you are just directly comparing production without taking minutes into account.
Of course any player is more valuable if you don't have to take them out because of FT shooting, but Hickson wasn't a better C than DJ because he's a better scorer and shooter. He was massively inferior as a defensive player, and a frontline of Griffin and Hickson might produce the worst, non shot blocking, no length front court in the NBA. His scoring wouldn't make up for it, and for example against Memphis it would have been an even worse slaughter.
If you cant stay on the floor bc you are a liability, than you cant get points. It wasnt because we had so much depth at C that DJ didnt get minutes. It was bc he sucked. Hes not good hes not worth the money and he isnt even in the top 20 at his position.
all im saying is that David West and Griffin would make up a better tandem and would be more useful to the team than Griffin and DJ.
That guy in your avatar and Blake would be better then Blake and DJ
yes I know Ron Burgandy
We need somebody young not another 30+ guy if we're going to build a dynasty. Look at Parker. Pop molded him.
I don't understand this at all, West is a PF plain and simple. Using him at C could give mismatches all around. And I am not sure his defense is up to par either.
I don't know where this rumor came from, but the best option is to go out and grab a center via a trade. Even if it means packaging Bledsoe and Butler with a future 1st rounder or TWO. Then we should look at trying to trade DeAndre to a team that needs a C or a backup C and get a SG or SF to start in return. There are plenty of capable players that are overpaid like DJ that could start and fit in well here.
Trade DJ for Nicholas Batum. Batum had an "off" year (not really) and I think he could be had. He's young (24), cost slightly more than DJ and would be a perfect fit.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... mni01.html
^^^I like Batum, but haven't the Blazers said consistently that he's one of their cornerstones? I know these things are subject to change, but I don't know how available he is. But it couldn't hurt for Sacks to pick up the phone and call his old buddy Olshey.
Throw in our 1st round pick too.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... mni01.html
Living in Portland I hate Batum, but yes he would be better for us than what we have. But he definitely is not an AllStar. He disappears at times
Living in Portland I hate Batum, but yes he would be better for us than what we have. But he definitely is not an AllStar. He disappears at times
Don't think he disappears as much as you think per the above sites. Think he needs a change of scenery.
Fans can be tough on their own players....gets foggy and cold out there sometimes and can be hard to see, lol. Especially in Portland.
Batum would be a great fit! Can shoot the 3, slash, and plays great defense!
^Who's Batik. Is he a SF or Sg, lol.
Agree. Even though our frontline would be undersized at times, still better than Blake and DJ. West can spread the floor and plays tough!
My bad I changed it to batum. Lol. Auto correct messed it up lol


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Re-10 Wash (sodium sulfacetamide 10%)
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Sadly, no cute squirrel shots this time, just my 'ole mug. Apparently people think my skin is pretty nice although I pretty much always have one or two breakouts at any given time. Despite my being baffled at this contradiction, my excuse is that I have fairly good skin texture. This comes from a combination of good hydration, sunscreen, and proper exfoliation which could be either from a physical scrub or something like the Clarisonic, or it could be from a chemical like a retinoid (like Differin) which is what I use.
I really believe there's no magic to achieving your ideal skin, but it is really important to exfoliate, moisturize, and protect your skin. As I mentioned in the video, everyone needs moisturizer. Some people may say that they don't but I promise you, every single lady I've applied makeup on (even teens and women in their early 20's) who don't wear moisturizer, I can tell. Your skin may not feel dry but there will be wrinkles appearing on the forehead and around the eyes. Those wrinkles form through a combination of inadequate hydration and sun damage.
Thankfully, there are really inexpensive products that work well like my HG Eucerin Everyday Protection which is oil-free so it won't break me out. It also already contains spf 30 so it protects against the evils of wrinkles and hyperpigmentation.
Post-acne dark spots or what some people call "scars" are actually exacerbated by exposure to the sun so if you are someone who has battled hyperpigmentation and wonders why it takes so long to go away, consider that you may be able to avoid it getting as dark in the first place with this 1 small step! I won't completely prevent the spots but they do seem to not get as dark and they fade faster as well.
Sometimes it's really the simple things that work the best: products that don't have too much extra junk in them, sticking with a consistent routine, and living a healthy life in general. It's hard to see if something really works for you if you use it less than a month or on and off, and also hard if you aren't getting enough sleep or water.
Enough of my little rant, here is my daily regimen:
- Wash face with Re-10
- Moisturize with Eucerin Everyday Protection
- Apply Duac (pea-sized) in trouble areas
- Wash face with Re-10
- Maybe apply a serum (Estee Lauder Advanced Night Repair or Lioele Active Therapy Ampoule)
- Apply StriVectin Eye Cream if I feel like being awesome
- Moisturize with Vanicream
- Apply Differin all over (half-pea sized, dotted on face then spread in)