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Forgive me Lord for though I have sinned! I believe in the CLIPPERS as have done so for so many years, but am finally growing weary of what they have done and haven't done while other teams are naturally progressing and digressing through the course of time.
This thread is the OFFICIAL thread to make your excuses, shed your opinions (excuses) of why the CLIPPERS have lost games,
excuses for poor coaching
excuses for player perfomance
excuses for the lack of fan loyalty
and any other excuses you can think of this year's team.
As I have stated in other threads, I personally believe it starts at the top with Donald Sterling and Andy Roesner who clearly have a different agenda as opposed to other NBA teams.
Dumbleave does play a part, but then again has proven his coaching abilities with the Trail Blazers, Bucks, Lakers and even the Clippers.
So he clearly has an idea of what he wants to accomplish.
But how much time can you give him?
How much time does he need?
How many more players does it take to get the team over the hump?
He's just not doing it, and the players are not buying it.
But can anyone else think of an NBA team that has struggled as much as this team has because I can't think of one team that hasn't gone to the Finals, Conference Finals, or has had consecutive years of playoff runs or continued success in the right direction other then the CLIPPERS.
We are cursed
Dunleavy was fired after one year (right?) coaching the Lakers... When he was gone, the Lakers won the championship the next year.
That's one of the most talented Lakers team and he still didn't win it all.
Dare, I add the implosion of the Blazers against the Lakers? That Blazers team was also VERY talented and very deep.
and what about the Bucks with Cassell, Ray Allen and there was someone else?
He took them to the Eastern Conference Finals.
But if you are saying that he hasn't succeded with other teams, than how much longer before anyone decides to do anything.
I don't even think it has been expressed through out the Fans at Staple that he has to go.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Maybe something like this?
Guys, just because we're Clippers fans, we can't just lower our standards and expectations...
Isn't it amazing how the Knicks have turned things around overnight !!!
Heck, if they can, WHY NOT US !!
Dunleavy already did that for us.
he took us from 27-55 to a shot away from the conference finals.
(besides, look at a few of the teams the knicks have beaten: memphis, heat, wizards, bobcats)
The Knicks didn't turn things around overnight. They have been trying to get their act together WITH THE SAME PLAYERS for a few years now. They might have a new coach BUT the players have experience playing with one another.
That isn't overnight.
What one can say is that the new coach was the last piece of the puzzle that made it work cause the other pieces were there waiting. This has been a short season so far, so success for the Knicks is too early to tell but it could happen.
Two things here...Dunleavy left (on his own) after two years with the Lakers, to take an offer he couldn't refuse as coach and GM of the Milwaukee Bucks, a team he spent a good part of his playing career for. His first year as Laker coach, he got them to the Finals, where they lost to the Bulls in six games. The following season was when Magic retired the first time, and the Lakers lost in the first round that year.
The Bucks, led by Sam Cassell, Ray Allen, and Glenn "Big Dog" Robinson, got to the Eastern Finals in '01 under George Karl. Dunleavy was still in Portland at this point (and on his way out by that season's end).
Okay so lets put all the blame on one guy.Lets not blame the ten new players most from different systems they have to adjust to. First lets wait until the end of the year for fire Dunleavy chants please. Look at the roster.Baron Davis has never played with anything other than a mediocre big man, now he has two. Camby on the other hand has never played with a top 5 point guard, neither has Kaman. And both have stated it takes an adjustment to get use to someone who can give you the ball anywhere anytime. Gordon is a rookie.Thornton sees a completely different team than what he saw last year. And Ricky Davis went through a shooting slump.Not to mention these guys hardly played in the pre-season together due to injuries. This is Cambys like what 4th game back? Come on what coach do you know that would be able to make this team gel as fast as you want them too? We are basically looking at an expansion team. 10 new players only 2 that were on the team that went to the playoffs, and you guys are expecting us to go 7-1? I was only hoping that they could hover near 500 the first month. Seems most peole just expected it..
No one could argue that Gordon's talents are being hindered by Dunleavy... right?
And its not just this game, I've been sick of him for a LONG time...
Dunleavy was also responsible for hindering Jermaine O'neals talent when he was with portland. As soon as he Dunleavy left JO blew up. Dunleavy is notorious for not playing rooks. Thornton was an exception because of the injury to brand.
You can find instant chemistry in pick up basketball games.
It's not rocket science.
Don't be fooled by what you see on the court, these guys also practice on the off days TOGETHER!
How long can it possibly take to find out what the other player likes to do?
Especially your starting 5!
Davis is a shooter / distributor
Mobley is camping out on the corners
Thornto is a slasher / shooter
Camby is a mid range shooter (doesn't post)
Kaman is down low in his comfort zone
How hard can it be?
One thing that does hurt is Dumbasses mixing and matching and throwing his philosophy which is not that of the players.
Everyone has one common goal
Couldn't have put it better myself- repped!
Everyone has one common goal
it hurts when you have the league's worst shooting percentage. otherwise, itd work fine.
we're just not making buckets.
the real question is, would you fire dunleavy at the end of last season?
of course not.
sheeesh if that was the only problem.............last night was so frustrating because we weren't making STOPS!!
Since when do you get paid millions of dollars to produce in a pickup game? Since when were you playing against probably the worlds greatest players? Answer those then maybe I will believe you. And it can take along time for players to get use to each other.Especially since they are coming from different systems. It is extremely difficult. Remember even your starting 5 are learning on the fly. How long are Pre-Season games? Have these guys been around each other a full Pre-Season and training camp getting use to all the new faces? It will take some time just wait. Its technically only been 5 games that these guys have figured there minutes and proper rotations.
Lets stop blaming anyone other than the players on the floor guys. A coach can only do so much. Its more about execution. Did anyone see the play where Ricky Davis was hit on the head by a pass on a fast break? I guess the coach should have told him to catch it? Has anyone noticed that on more than 7 possessions someone has thrown the ball directly to the sidelines? And how about all the balls that wind up in the back court? come on guys, I think you all are giving up faster than the team. These things do take some time and patience. And Gordon is really inconsistent. Dunleavy showed us last year that when his rookie starts understanding the game and using his time on the floor wisely he will let him play. If Dunleavy can not even put the Clipppers in position to go to the playoffs maybe then I will say he needs to go. but unlike the most of you I think its a lot of ball left. And in being a competitor I don't want to give up now.
What systems did Camby and Davis come from? Run n Gun systems?
Mobley, Thornton, & Kaman have already been here.
As far as the pickup game analogy, professional, average, leauge ball, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't take that long to find that niche or chemistry.
I don't think it's the players, I think it's the coach and his complex style.
So just how much time are you giving these porfessional athletes that have played in multiple styles of offenses and defenses?
Not only has it been 5 games, but don't forget about practice and film, and any other chances to get together and develop a cohesiveness
I ll repeat for you clipper-josh..The last time Camby played on a team with a top 5 point guard? The last time he played with a center that averaged 15ppg and 11reb and 2.5 blocks the year before? That alone is a diffrence maker. What are people saying about Shaq on Phoenix this season? Now that he has adjusted he should do better. So that means Shaq had a season and a half a season to get use to his new teammates. and Camby you are right did come from a run and gun, but what kind of guard was he running with, was he usually the option to run to the post?How many set plays did both teams run? And Mobley, Caveman, and Thornton have been here but isnt this a different system than last year?
Well this isn't related but Dam they got my order wrong at Micky D's....this IS a complaining thread so ...thought I'd get that off my chest....
I don't think anybody is saying anything about Shaq because we all know that he is at the end of his rope.
He is definitely not what he use to be and if he is, he shows it in flashes and spurts.
People are not expecting anything of Shaq, they rest him on back to backs, plus not to mention that they have a legitimate and solidified team that is not internally imploding.
Shaq has yet to have a full season with the SUNS. He was their for half of last season including the playoffs. But what they expect of him is alot different than what expect of our CLippers.
Allen Iverson is no chop liver. He may not be in the top5, but definitely in the top 10.
So are you saying that Dumbleavyis instilling another offensive system on top of what he had last year?
Again, I think it is more him than the players, but when there are 5 on the court, they all understand that they have one common goal.
P.S. How many games are you giving this unit to find each others ways, styles etc ?
on another note, i think we have WAAAAY too many individuals on this team with low FG%.
last year's numbers from our key players:
thornton - 42%
ricky - 43%
baron - 42% (shooting 37% right now btw) - 33% from 3, yet he jacks up 6 attempts a game.
camby - 45% (low for a big man)
cat - 43%
tim - 42%
doesnt surprise me one bit that we're last in the league in PPG and FG%.
other than kaman (who shot a poor 51% for a big man) and novak (48%), we dont have anyone on our roster who shot higher than 45% last year. that's rather troubling.
Iverson is not a pg..And yes that is what Baron has admitted he is adjusting too.A non running team. How is the blame on him if the players are throwing passes at each other on fast breaks?Or throwing the ball out of bounds or in to the back court? Just give him a chance and give it to the players. They do deserve it.
if your team has a low FG%, you're gonna need to rebound to stay in games, right? well, we have kaman and camby, no problem?
turns out we're DEAD LAST in the league in Rebound differential. teams are outrebounding us by 8 rebounds a game.
people just aren't doing their jobs on the court. dont blame coach.
Good job ekker. That's what I am saying right now. The players on the court need to do their job first. I'll admit I was a little weary of some things dunleavy called last night.Such as not putting Kaman back in down by 3 with 1:52 left in the game. But after watching the replay Kaman did nothing to show he should be in the game. He was horrible on the defensive end. And I am giving these guys a year. Firing a coach with his team 1-7 is not going to make you suddenly go to the playoffs. Lets just hope our players can turn it around.
I applaud your paitience
Clipper Josh Clipshow is 100% correct, I mean let's look at this historically.
When Steve Nash went to Phoenix it took him a long time to adjust....oh wait nevermind. Well when the Celtics changed their entire roster they had a lot of growing pains at the beginning of the seasn...oh wait no again. Surely changing coaches isn't the answer think of when Nelly left the Mavs Avery Johnson did terrible...oh wait no that didn't happen either. I love the clippers as much as anyone I watch every game to the oh so bitter end.
The Clips just don't have their mojo, something needs to change. When I posted my original thoughts on this team everyone nay sayed me and everything I've said is true. Inconsistant post play, a poor FG%, and too much credence to "veteran" leadership. Dunleavy is ALWAYS LATE ON ROTATIONS.
I think Dunleavy should worry about defense with the team, run a few plays and dead ball plays and otherwise let the offense do its thing. The whole chemistry takes time against the world's best is negated by the fact that these players are part of the best in the world as well. Making it all relative. Gordon needs more minutes, as does Skinner against those smaller PF's like Paul Millsap that have torched the clips. A sturdy 8-9 man rotation would let everyone know their role much better and allow growth within that role.
Either we say the coaching is off, or we admit that our team just isn't that good. I say that because truly legit players who have been thrown into a new role have historically done well. so which is it are the coaches f'ing up or are we just not a team thats good enough to compete?
Lebron..You're bringing up 1 pr two players not ten. Ten players is a alot to adjust 2.Phoenix did not revamp there whole roster for Nash.And he was around the whole pre-Season and training camp.The big three same thing. And that team was basically built on defense which won them the championship. I see you do not have the J Kidd trade down here.Or the Shaq trade?How about the Iverson trade to Denver where Denver actually dropped after obtaining him? Like I said earlier 10 people is a lot harder than 1. A whole different set of rotations. And how about the coaching change in Chi town last year, or even the Milwaukee debacle? Maybe Alvin Gentry being fired mid-season ring a bell? Don't say historically if there are just enough to counteract your post. And it's the players on the court. I am 100% right at least we agree on something.
One more team for you the 2004 L.A Lakers adding Karl Malone and Gary Payton in the off-season.After game 1 of the Finals numerous players from the championship team said they understood the play calling better also had better chemistry.Wanted two for sure future hall of famers to ride the pine.
Yeah but that 2004 laker team was never 6 games below .500 to start the season
They were never I agree with you.But when things got rough what where the veteran Lakers saying? Play us because they do not have the chemistry we have. So chemistry could hurt when things are not going well. That was the point I was making.There is no real chemistry.And things are not going well.Wait a little winning some game should pick things up.
I forgot how well is our buddy Brand doing over there in Philadelphia.Lets also not forget that this was just the first game against a team that did not make the playoffs last year.There is a lot of season left.Lets at least wait until December before you guys get pissed please.
My gipe is the second half fizzle. We come out like a house on fire and then somebody pours water on our match. The energy and agression aren't there. Again I don't expect them to win but I've not seen the passion in the second half. Maybe they are tired and out of shape but that's when it hits the fan. Why does a team have a 22-0 run? Crash the boards and pull a Magettee. You may get a charge but it's better than jumpers from the periphery. Get FT's Put in every shooter you have, not just Tim. Nothing will break your spirit like that.This is a problem with motivation (coaching). If he'd blown out a game seasoning Gordon of Tayor or shooting Ricky out a slump, OK
The second half fizzle? The Clips have found a different way to lose each game.And the Lakers have gone on a few big runs.The Clips ae not the only one's.the energy if leaving is when teams start to make the run.And Baron has been driving and forcing his way to the hole. So has Camby.But motivation does not come from a coach.Whenever you play a sport you should have motive to be the best.The guys have no chemistry and no communication.Thats the coaches fault? Thats built through these guys going through tough times together. When things fall apart someone on the court puts things into perspective. All the coach can do is put the right group of people on the floor who are going to do something.And look at the last couple of games. The run against Houston, the actual comeback against Dallas, then the near comeback against the Kings. They came back from being down by 10 to 2.Dunleavy did exactly what you just said.Ricky Davis, Mobley, Baron Davis, and Tim Thomas were on the floor.So what about shooters? And I know everyone keeps saying that he is keeping Gordon and Taylor down, but does anybody know who got a lot of minutes last year as a rookie.Why did that rookie get a lot of minutes? Because he earned it, on the court, off the court, and in practice.He was always trying to improve his game. Just because he is a rookie and you want them to play does not mean he should.And you want the team with the third worst free throw percentage to go to the line? Wow. Maybe since everyone just says lets get rid of Dunleavy we should.We will finish the season the exact same way we did when we fired Gentry.Not doing anything, nor going anywhere.
Thank you MR.Hill for setting the record straight on this aspect of recalling what actually happened.
Heck, if they can, WHY NOT US !!
What one can say is that the new coach was the last piece of the puzzle that made it work cause the other pieces were there waiting. This has been a short season so far, so success for the Knicks is too early to tell but it could happen.
Good point, CJ. It's amazing how fast people forget the past, they only want immediate results. Probably the same folks who wanted (still want?) to bring in Starbury.
Good point, CJ. It's amazing how fast people forget the past, they only want immediate results. Probably the same folks who wanted (still want?) to bring in Starbury.
Thats how our society is nowadays. Results now. There is a quick fix to any problem.
obviously this seson has been a waste so far. so talented yet so umotivated and lost sometimes
Dunleavy- hasnt adjust his playbook according to his player. still running the same play as if he has brand down low.
Camby- We all thought him and kaman would compliment each other but they dont. camby doesnt have a back to the basket move. we shouldnt pay 13 mil to a back up center
kaman- all potential but no success so far. it's what his 5th year yet we're still talking about potential
p.s. when there was a rumor that detroit offered wallace and rip for kaman/gordon/thomas, i was praying it would come thru... but now detroit has AI and NO TEAM will offer as close of a talent to us for our guys
Camby is not a back up center, first of all, second of all it's 9 million a year, almost 10 milllion. But not 13. And no- Dunleavy hasn't been running plays for down low. It seems like the players don't want to run plays, and they're all having 1 on 1 contests. It's more of the players' fault... They can't run offenses, they can't score, and most of all, THEY CAN'T PLAY DEFENSE. That's not Dunleavy's fault. If anything is Dunleavy's fault it's the conditioning they're getting.
rasheed hates md though
Who is the first to go? Maybe this thread? These threads are just getting redundant, don't you think? Take Camby out of the equation and it just becomes another Dunleavy thread. OYE VEY!
what r u talking about. the clippers offense consist of getting a man to the post which takes up 15 seconds to do and then have their outside shooter bail them out when the clock is running out
ummm kaman is on it too 8)
ummm kaman is on it too 8)
Wasn't when I wrote the post. Either way, why don't we just let everyone go and maybe we can start from scratch. That way, we can start some more threads like this after 6 games and see who else we want to get rid of.
what r u talking about. the clippers offense consist of getting a man to the post which takes up 15 seconds to do and then have their outside shooter bail them out when the clock is running out
All I've been seeing is isolations starting at mid range, and ill advised 3's. I wish there was more post play because that is how you find the open man, with some ball movement afterwards.


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The mayor of Wagener on Thursday responded to recent news reports that suggest a town councilman's son received preferential treatment after being pulled over by Wagener police for speeding.
The incident happened on Saturday night, when Officer Dustin Johnson pulled over the son of Councilman George Smith in front of Wagener-Salley High School. A video of the traffic stop was captured by a small camera on Johnson's belt, and a copy of the video was provided to the Aiken Standard.
The driver apparently told the officer he had multiple South Carolina driver's licenses.
"I don't need to hear no more. That's against the law. As a matter of fact, in that case, you ain't getting this one back," Johnson is heard saying. The driver tells him he had two lost at his home that had been reported lost to the Department of Motor Vehicles.
Shortly after, Councilman Smith arrived on scene.
"How you doing, Mr. Smith?" Johnson said.
"I told him, what I did is I wrote him a warning. Anytime we stop somebody, we have to write a minimum of a warning," he said.
Johnson told Smith he disabled the dashboard camera for the stop.
"I could see enough right off the bat with his eyes ... and between that and the smell, I didn't even bother to turn the recorder on," he said.
The driver never completed any field sobriety tests, and Johnson didn't ask him to. In South Carolina, field sobriety tests, if requested by an officer who suspects an intoxicated driver, must be videotaped.
Johnson tells Smith he disabled the dashboard camera in his patrol car, and that he clocked his son traveling about 51 mph in a 30-mph zone.
Johnson returns to his patrol car to complete some paperwork, then approaches Smith and his son again.
"In my years of experience, and as a DUI specialist, you're not able to drive," Johnson said. "Slow it down and let this be a learning lesson. If you wouldn't (have) been around this area, you'd have probably been looking at a whole lot worse situation."
Mayor Michael Miller said favoritism was not shown for the son of a town councilman.
"We don't do that. We don't let people go because of who they are," he said.
A recent news report on the incident quoted Miller as saying that Wagener police have dumped bags of marijuana and bottles of liquor out before and given people only warnings.
Miller told the Aiken Standard he was referring to an incident two years ago. A young woman and two male friends who were at the mud run were parked illegally at a gas station in Wagener. An officer addressing the illegal parking noticed a partially full bottle of wine in the vehicle.
"The way that was discovered, the officer walked by and saw the young lady sitting in the driver's seat," Miller said. "She informed him she was the designated driver."
The two men, who were intoxicated, came out of the gas station, and the officer ordered them to dump out the wine, Miller said. He gave the female driver a $138 parking ticket.
"That open container, that would have ruined her license and her finances for five years," Miller said. "We don't dump bags of marijuana out, and we don't dump bottles of liquor out every time we catch somebody."
The officer from Saturday's incident has been placed on paid administrative leave, and Miller said he contacted the S.C. State Law Enforcement Division to investigate.
"They told me it sounded political to them," Miller said. "They talked to the chief for a while, and they said this is a political matter."
Miller said Smith, who has served on the council for more than 30 years, didn't use his political power to get his son a lesser punishment and wouldn't have had a problem if his son got a ticket.
"He wasn't screaming or yelling," he said. "And the warning ticket was written when he got there."
Regarding Johnson's comment about what would happen in another jurisdiction, Miller said law enforcement's response to an incident is left to the discretion of the individual officer.
"That is possible. If another policeman had been on, it could have been different – a county policeman, a state policeman or (Department of Natural Resources)."
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Thomas Kinghorn was my 4x great-grandfather and although I have written much about him in the past, mainly about his experiences as a guard on the mail coaches, I know very few hard facts about his life.
Based on his age in his death announcement and his entry in the burial register it seems that he was born about 1781 but I have no clues about where he was born or who his parents were.
Thomas married Margaret Sewell on the 5th May 1803 at St. Cuthbert's Church, Carlisle, Cumberland. Their marriage licence bond gives Thomas' location as Moffat, Dumfriesshire, Scotland or North Britain as it was refered to at time. However, I have been unable to find any records for a Thomas Kinghorn originating north of the border.
Thomas and his wife had six children, it seems that all six were born in Moffat, but were baptised at St. Cuthbert's Church, Carlisle south of the Scottish border.
- John Kinghorn (baptised 30th October 1803)
- Mary Kinghorn (baptised 3rd August 1806)
- Thomas Kinghorn (baptised 13th March 1808) [my 3x great-grandfather]
- Abraham Kinghorn (baptised 10th June 1810)
- Elizabeth Kinghorn (baptised 19th March 1815)
- George Kinghorn (baptised 11th May 1817)
I am still not sure what happened to their two daughters Mary and Elizabeth, but only one of their sons (George) appears to have remained in Carlisle, the others making their way south to London, presumably through Thomas' connection with the coaching trade.
The earliest record I have for Thomas' employment as a mail guard is the marriage licence bond dated 4th May 1803 and the occupation is consistent across all the subsequent baptisms of his children.
The most notable occurrence during his time as a mail guard is his involvement in an accident on the 25th October 1808, which I have written about before, during which he was injured, but seemingly recovered quickly and returned to work.
It has been suggested that because they were armed many mail guards had served in the army previously, but I have found no record of this in Thomas' case yet.
Thomas died on the 30th April 1833 (as recently discovered in a newspaper announcement) and was living in Crosby Street, Carlisle at the time. He was buried in St Cuthbert's Church, Carlisle on the 4th May 1833. I don't know whether a headstone was ever erected or if it still survives if it was.
Clearly there are many gaps in my knowledge of Thomas Kinghorn and his ancestors and descendants, the most obvious of which is who were his parents and where was he born/baptised. I am pretty certain it was south of the Scottish border, maybe even as far south as London (as that is where most of his children ended up).
Unfortunately because of my distance from Carlisle I don't see the opportunity for doing much more research in the near future, however where there is a will there is a way and maybe the opportunity will present itself. I certainly need to re-visit the main online resources and see if anything more can be discovered at this time.


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We would have to give up a first round pick, or a few, as well. But, I would much rather have Melo as well. Plus, Doc would help him defensively. 3-peat team right there.
How is this even in question? LeBron all day! Melo is a selfish brick-chucker and severely overrated. He also is a poor fit for us because he's better as a 4 but we already have Blake.
Melo fits better, but I'd still take the best player in the world any day...
Lebron all day every day; that being said, if he's not available, I'd gladly take 'Melo over our current SF
Neither, as both would be a very additive gain imo, and, therefore, wouldn't warrant the cost. Give me our current staff of small forwards, and improve our most glaring weakness (still): backup bigs.
Has no jump shot? He's shooting 37.5% from beyond the arc. That's actually better than Jamal Crawford's shooting %. Lebron's not a sharp shooter, but he still has a good jump shot.
LeBron makes everybody better and he is one of the few elite defenders in the league, and he can do it at practically any position.
Exactly. He likes to pass and he plays great defense, unlike Melo, who I do actually like. The fact that Lebron is so unselfish makes him a great fit for any team.
Neither are even possible why are we even talking about it? Lol. Laker fan like thread right here.
Lebron of course can drive and pass the ball to any open guy, with CP3 and Lebron in the floor plus Blake it's like we have 3 PG with different sizes.
Lebron by a mile lol and his jump shot is fine. If Lebron has no jump shot neither does Blake.
Most likely neither is a realistic option though.
Lebron has no jumpshot? What are we in 2004 or something? lol
The guy has made 39% of his last 534 3PA, if that's not having a jumpshot, then I don't even know what to say.
The real question though is why is this being asked as if there's some sort of option to get either player
Seroiusly not keen on watching Melo throw up bricks and make selfish plays all day, LB makes smart basketball plays and makes everyone better, but having him devoids the need for a superstar PG like CP on the same team. Oh the dillemma thank goodness realisticly its not a situation we will have to deal with
Its not ideal but I don't see how its any worse than a Lebron and Wade combo.
Lebron. He can score, draw double/triple teams, facilitate, and defend. Melo can score, but forces the issue. Pull up 3's in transition? There has to be a better option than a pull up j.
i'd rather take ariza or deng.
Blake, DJ, and LeBron would dominate the open floor.
Your April Fools joke was several days late.
Yeah, I was waiting for the punchline.
I'd trade CP3 for LeBron in a nanosecond if LBJ decides to come here. Problem solved. A core of LBJ and Blake gives the rest of the league absolute fits because of their size, strength, athleticism, and guard skills.
the obvious answer is Lebron James..... But I went for the realistic choice... Resign Granger trade Duds...
If we get Melo then he is our #3 man. If we get LBJ then CP3 is our #3 man.
I don't know about you guys but if Chris Paul is your 3rd best player......you are going to win multiple championships.
I'm not even sure I'd take Melo over Bosh. Positioning would be weird, but he knows how to play with superstars.
Sadly the Ariza ship has sailed. We had our chance and "preserved chemistry". Unless he's asking for unreasonable amounts which would keep him out of our hands anyway, i'd be very surprised if Washington didn't keep him.
Deng is probably going to ask for a little more money than this team can throw out. If he wanted $8M, it would be great and workable, but good luck with that as a GM when he'll be getting much more lucrative offers
If this was meant to be realistic didn't think it was, then the only realistic option as of now is the resign Granger etc option.
Why does keeping Barnes/Granger need to involve trading Dudley? Dudley recently had a game where he started at PF against Kevin Love and did well and he's filled in for Granger lately as well. Granger's health isn't too reliable, so we'd probably want extra depth at the position anyway. Having a versatile player who can fill multiple gaps as needed is pretty useful to have around.
The proposed trade doesn't work $ wise.
It's a complete no brainer which you'd choose
Moot point anyway...not happening.
Is this an April Fools Day thread, posted 5 days late?
i was just saying id rather take ariza or deng because they would seem to fit the team better and wouldn't cost as much as lebron/melo. getting ariza and deng seems a little more realistic than getting melo or lebron though. the more realistic options would be getting pierce or resigning granger
The only player who can convince LBj to come here is CP3 not Doc so trading CP3 for LBj is very slim.
Melo isn't even a top 5 player.
I don't disagree with that, just saying that sadly even though would be very difficult to accomplish, not to talk of Lebron or Melo. The whole thread is weird, lol
No confusion, it's just a waste of time.
It's a lot more difficult playing GM then just saying who you'd want, LOL.
And again, for sh!ts and giggles, it's a no brainer.
Melo a role player? eh? I thought he was a franchise superstar ball stopper, which is pretty different.
Edit.Oops. I think I misunderstood what you were saying, my bad.
I'm a Lebron hater and I said resign Granger (most realistic and we keep CP3), but if you are keeping Blake then you have to take Lebron. From a basketball standpoint that is an unstoppable group. Just fill with 3 and D type players.
I wouldn't trade Blake or CP3, just for loyalty reasons in any case. Carmelo would be ok, but I wouldn't consider giving too much more then Crawford and Dudley or something similar. Heck honestly I'd have trouble trading DJ and Crawford for just about anybody too, even though I've mentioned it before.
Why hate LOL, theres no loyalty in the NBA, its a business and you do what ever it takes to win it all, even if it meant trading BG/CP
BG is off the table, I don't care who is on the other side. His potential is as high as anybody's and he is our draft choice. That doesn't happen as often as it should.
Instead of LeBron or Melon, the Clips should get a young swing that's okay with being a 3rd option but will step it up once CP regresses with age. Maybe Indiana will panic and give us PG for some draft picks and role players.
Revist why? You think the Heat will sign and trade him to us? You think we have the cap space to get melo? No? Then let it go...
I think LeBron and griffin would be great together too..
trade paul for lebron..
we can keep collision...he would stay to be a starter..ucla guy
we have collision, redick. lebron,griffin and dj..
then dj would resign for the same amount to stay and play with lebran..
we have bullock, crawford, barnes,and baby would probably stay too if lebran was here..
get a back up point in the draft..
maybe trade dudley for a pick and get a back up big,
and win the championship next year!!!
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and have a parade!!!
I would like to Change my vote to Carmelo
Lebron isn't coming here if we have to give up CP. I don't know why that is so difficult for some of you to understand. If we have to give up Blake to get the best player in the world (and one of the best players of all time), then who wouldn't do that trade? Best possible scenario would be to keep CP and Blake, but that is difficult. Big no to Melo as we don't need another chucker. But this is all moot point considering the chances of either one coming here are slim.
Glen Davis and Danny Granger to opt out
Knew Danny granger would. But I thought we were keeping big baby
Good...We made out in those choices. Better replacements out there for the same $ or a little more. Next.
Yep, and I think losing to OKC showed Doc our biggest flaw. LENGTH!
We can't get by anymore with 6'9" players at the Center position. Good riddance Big Baby.
It would be hard to see Blake Griffin go, but if we did do a straight up swap for Lebron, couldn't the Clippers then add Pau Gasol for MLE to fill in at PF? Pau may be interested in staying in LA and will have a starting spot on a very competitive team. Additionally, we add Paul Pierce and re-sign some of those folks that opted out and add a couple bigs like Kris Humphreys, Shawn Marion, and Andray Blatche or Birdman to fill out the roster. So the Clippers could sport this lineup next season
PG CP3, Collison
SG Redick, Crawford, Willie Green
SF Lebron, Pierce, Barnes, Dudley
PF Pau Gasol, Kris Humphreys, Shawn Marion
C Deandre, Blatche
I think this team competes for the NBA title next season. Of course, lots of these veterans are going to have to be willing to play for minimal contracts.
Keep our core team and add some defense. LeBron needs to go to a team that is going to build around him. I can't believe everyone thinks their team can win a championship with LeBron or Carmelo. The Clips have their Stars and we don't need neither one.
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why not straight up paul for lebron???
then get livingston and collision for point guards???
then pick up pau gasol for pf and c backup??
that sounds better to me..


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Blakers Win!!! Just kidding! (It seemed pretty obvious. No slight to CP3 intended)
We were hoping last game was really turning the corner but it wasn't
Detroit was a good game not the points wanted be active altering and blocking shots and working the glass. A lot of the damage Drummond did was against the second unit and rotation switches.
This game and the Denver were really bad games. He was on such a solid run before hand believe he was due for a slump same as Barnes. With finding the bench chemistry lacking we need him to get back on track during the road trip against good bigs.
He does look different after the 4 day break like he loss some muscle or something. Should get some flow back with the games away from home or so I hope.
yea i heard that too. what's wrong with program? you know they're running a system and putting on a show. it's a good program haha
Yea, he's actually not bad, I remember when he exploded onto the scene with Milwaukee and averaged like 8 APG to end the season his rookie year and dropped like 20 assists on game.
He's always been able to score, he's just had issues with his outside shot, defense and sometimes turnovers which have kept him away from regular big minutes.
I hope the Clippers do well in their upcoming 5-game road trip. Another nice win streak would be superb.
Happy for this win even though most guys outside of Blake didn't seem to have it. Shout out to Dudley with the pro's pro contribution, a la Willie Green.
I liked that blake took over down the stretch
btw, I'm with you guys on DJ. He's been lackadaisical lately. I want him to body up those guys. Get more physical.
Should we not trust Paul with Sessions goes off? Should we not trust Griffin when Adrien was able to get by him and lesser PF's score? These types of games happen you refocus the team and keep going.
Props to Griffin for being more aggressive during the clutch. And props to CP3 for delivering him the ball and trusting Blake to make a play.
Law of averages though, he was 20/34, or 59% FG averaging 28.5 PPG over the last two games, that's a bit much, this one balances it out. For Blake who is averaging 24 PPG, it's like his 20 pts, 7/17 FG game vs Utah for Paul who is averaging 18-19 pts to have a 14 pts, 5/13 game. I suppose outside of his FT's and getting to the line you could also say like his 26 pts, but needing 25 FGA and shooting 7/25 vs Denver.
Interesting the Bucks ran a similar offense you see from the Grizz with ZaZa and Conely roaming and looking to attack like Conley.
We are no BLOWOUT CITY.......T_T
Great seeing Blake take a 4th into control and finishing off like when Paul was out.
Portland lost tonight and are just one game ahead of the Warriors in the standings. It would be great if Clips match with the Blazers in the first round of the playoffs.
So whose team is it now??? Blake or CP3???
Doc talking about cleaning up dribble penetration on defense now. Seems they tried to pull us out of the paint with ball movement and zaza jumper and if we moved Sessions would find a lane.
Impressive game by the Bucks if they played that way all year could of been better if not for tanking. Team is suppose to leave to New Orleans tomorrow hope they get a heavy practice in.
Anthony Davis is on a elite level hot streak DJ and guys must stay focused.
Continuing this from another thread. Baby got gassed real fast after a couple of fast breaks. He's doing great at keeping guys off the block but can he hang especially if DJ gets hurt or misses games for other reasons?
That's like asking who's team was it, Shaq or kobes?
Magic or Kareems?
Who gives a **** just bring us some championships!
This is always a funny discussion, and the best answer is "who cares"? When you have two guys playing at a superstar level the least of our worries should be "whose team is this" as if there is a necessity for there to be one guy at the helm. Whose team were the Rivers' Celtics teams? KG? Pierce? Allen? Didn't matter.
Yeah, this is undoubtedly Doc's team now. But on the court, I see something really rare... two superstars who want to win so badly that each is prepared to either lead or to take a back seat to the other.
Every team that has won titles "plays down" to the level of their opponents. Ideally, you would want to win every game by five points or so and save the "afterburner" for the playoffs. Mike D'Antoni, with his old Phoenix teams and Mike Brown with the LeBron Cavs won lots of regular season games by big margins and what did it get them?
As a latecomer to supporting the Clippers (not a "fan" yet, a "supporter"), I see Doc is managing the team correctly. And he knows how to do it.
I would be more concerned about the assault on BG -- and the refs looking the other way -- than not beating the Bucks by 50 points.