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I like the direction of the zynq - nice presentation
Thank you Jeff
No embedded vision app yet
ARM, Xilinx
Thank you for the presentation
I work mostly with 8-bit PICs, no vision applications yet.
Thanks another good day
No I havent implemented any yet
looking forward to today
The 3d camera info yesterday was very interesting
Picking up number three
Thank you for your Lecture, I cdnt log in yesterday.
Thanks Jeff; very great lecture.
Processor choices of Embedded Vision are very complex.
We need combination of most of them for some applications; it' s not easy.
Thanks for a great seminar.
Ok, see you tomorrow then.
Thank you so much for such a great seminar.
thank you
Could you please tell us about some embedded vision applications you have worked with?
OK, everyone, I'm signing off for today. If you think of more questions, feel free to post them in the chat attached to tomorow's class. I'll be there to answer questions with Eric.
Thanks for listening!
@Jeff, thanks for the information!
Any idea of a company that comercializes embedded solutions such as the camera used in the Nintendo Wii controller?
Enjoying this week so far! Heading off, "back in/to the future"...
I've been aggregating chat contents, capturing content, tidbits. Info-dense stuff is nice.
bye for now
See CogniMem Technologies' information on the Embedded Vision Alliance website for more on neural network-modeled chips
Any familiarity with what kind(s) of processors are used in Cognex Vision system cameras??
Sorry, no.
Do you have any comments using neural networks for vison applications?
Check out http://www.cognimem.com/
They are doing some interesting work with neural nets and computer vision.
BTW, It took me more like 10 min to register and login for tomorrow's goodie. The registration page did not ask for or assign a password, I had to go thru the lost password process to get one. FYI
The Zed board sell for 300$ retail, so I'd think the BOM there would be arond 150$ or so with ZYNQ part no more that 70-80$ ... it's the 2nd smallest part of course but still decent
time to go, thanks Jeff, Eric and Ann. see all tomorrow.
l@JEFF: looks like that OpenCV demo is available only for Wndows. Is that accurate?
I do have the examples in Linux as well. Please email me: email@example.com
good day to all
good info
What are the hardware requierments for the demo ?
Windows XP or 7. A "modern" PC ( 3 years old or less ).
If you want real-time video, you will need a web cam with the appropriate driver installed.
(although the camera isn't doing embedded processing per se, so I guess it doesn't actually count)... (re Cognex)
I've watched them VERY reliably (and precisely) track objects moving at "blink and you'll miss it" rates...
@artemThanks. I noticed that board, but I'm wondering the chip/BOM price if I sell 1000 products with a Zynq processor.
Any insight?
If my application has to recognize size, color and texture from tomatoes, it suitable to use the EVS from National Instruments wich implements a CPU in a FPGA ??, or can i use a lower cost processor?
Much will depend on rates-- how quickly are things moving, how quickly do you need the result, how many tomatoes are in one frame. Depending on these and other parameters, a CPU may be adequate (perhaps ith GPU assistance), or you might need more oomph.
what are the hardware requierments for the demo ?
@dhaneshm I've been playing with Zynq for the last 2 months, and will be happy to share my experence. Send me an email to email@example.com if you have questiions
@zogoto3000: the issue with firefox and audio IS the latest flash. Downgrading flash a release or 2 (to 11.3.300.27x) resolved the audio issues for me. But now IE has no flash since process starts with uninstalling flash.
Jeff Bier, If my application has to recognize size, color and texture from tomatoes, it suitable to use the EVS from National Instruments wich implements a CPU in a FPGA ??, or can i use a lower cost processor?
Alex, Size and color would not be a problem for a SOC (ARM). I am not sure what you mean by texture.
Zynq boards start at 300$, look for Zed board
ONE temptation with mobile processors is the possibility whether you can do any meshed processor arrays, any network-based offload...
Yes, this has potential. Also, it's interesting to think about what can be done by combining image data from multiple mobile devices. Check out this amazing project, for example: http://grail.cs.washington.edu/rome/
@artem...I had seen the board..(ESC desk XILINX) with ARM-9 Cortex processor....I was lookin out for voice processing.. it is one of the really cool stuff..I hav'nt dont much experimentation on it.. want to try it out..
Agreed, the ease of use is a big question. Right now I'm evaluating Zynq with the goal of building a next generation camra for computational photography and computer vision. It'll be the next version of Franken camera, if you are familiar with it: http://graphics.stanford.edu/papers/fcam/
Does anyone know prices for Zynq? I asked (I think Avnet) and the prices were $100 to $1000, which seemed unreasonably high.
Also I had no problem using Firefox on my Mac or Windows 7 computer. It may just be firefox does not have the latest adobe flash.
@jeff: amongst the four processor choices you presented, what is the most costly efficient way to start programming embedded vision applications?
That depends on what you mean by cost-efficient. Are you talking about the cost of stuff you have to buy to get started? The effort required to do the development? Or the cost of producing your product using that processor?
Thanks for the presentations! They have been very informative and useful. The ARM +FPGA like Zynq sound very interesting for vision applications
Also see Xilinx's dedicated area of the Embedded Vision Alliance website:
Thank You! Great lecture.
Xilinx has published a large amount of information on Zynq here:
Thanks Jeff, good session
@Eric - corporate policies cause installing sw like this problematic. Is it easy to uninstall after class?
It's all in one directory. You could just delete the directory.
Your slide talks about implementing CPU in FPGA, but there is a new class of FPGA with embeded ARM A-9 core which in my mind is one of the best options for embeded vision. ZYNQ from Xilinx and HPS from Altera. Have you looked at those chips?
Thank you!
The download looks like an Ubuntu package... should I find a hardware platform that I can dedicate to this package?
The download is actually a Windows executable.
Introduction To Computer Vision Using OpenCV (Software Demo)
November 25, 2011
Recorded audio is available now...
@fwjava, wondering if we might share some interests...
nothing yet with vision apps
@Jeff That's better news having them on-demand makes it even more easier to listen.
good infomration.
primary embeded proc is in the PIC line
Awesome dipert_bdti
Great audio today on then IPhone using the Photon browser. Thanks to Ann and Eric for tody's session.
Thank you! Very helpful.
We plan to videorecord the Embedded Vision Summit presentations and publish them afterward on the Embedded Vision Alliance website
Thanks Jeff!
Thanks for great presentation.
Any of the Boston events going to be webcast ? Very interested in the material but I'm not able to travel to Boston.
Sorry, no webcast from the Boston event, but many of the presentations will be available as videos on the Embedded Vision Alliance web site after the event.
Thanks for the interesting lecture, Jeff..
Thanks Jeff.. that was informative..
Are there plans to release the Executable Demo Package for another platform (e.g., Linux)?
We actually have the examples for Linux, but they are in a VMware image.
If you are interested in the Linux examples, please email me: email@example.com
Thank you.
thank you Jeff,
Thank you, Jeff
@Ann: I note that live audio works with IE8, still does not work with Firefox. Any progress on that?
Thanks for the great presentation
Thanks Jeff.
Thank you Jeff for the information.
Thank you for today's presentation
Good stuff!
thanks Jeff
Thkx Jeff, very good overview.
Please download the tool before the class.
You can download the Windows installer here: http://www.embedded-vision.com/what-embedded-vision/embedded-vision-academy/type/downloads
The BDTI OpenCV Executable Demo Package is an easy-to-use tool which allows anyone with a Windows computer and a web camera to experiment with some of the algorithms in OpenCV v2.3. After downloading the installer zip file, double-click on the zip file to uncompress its contents, then double-click on the setup.exe file.
Jeff and Eric, you guys are going to be busy next week, eh?
Trying to remember how large that 149M zipped package explodes out to when unpacked??
A reminder, if you've got additional questions for Jeff, he will answer them here in the second part of the show, starting in just a few minutes.
Thank you, Jeff!
I've been looking at Android OpenCV but nothing really done yet.
FPGAs let you do "generic" modular tools; all the required I/O, memory, multi-purpose re external sensors, etc -- and "roll your own" internals specific to YOUR application requirements.
I missed if you mentioned "cost"...
Has anyone tried the NVIDIA Android OpenCV installation tool?
"html" link at bottom of chat window lets me click your posted URLs -- VERY cool.
As a reminder, you can access archives of each day's lecture on this page:
Qualcomm also has great support for mobile computer vision:
wow - my fingers really aren't working well today :)
@drw36 Cuda is an option when building the OpenCV library for use. One of my biggest pains when I was building my OpenCV library.
AMD has a page as well with driver for OpenCL:
@flared0ne - jsut saw some poeople join late.
"now on slide 14"
mobile devices generally have TIGHT restrictions on useage, usually don't have much excess space available -- keeping people from stomping on available memory, etc, can be a problem... App dev space IS pretty interesting -- check out "String", among others re AR video overlays...
NVIDIA has a whole webpage dedicated to computer vision:
@LevitonDave: mindreader -- slide #s slip past easily.
"Now on slide 13"
A very popular GPU programming language is OpenCL.
Also, NVIDIA's CUDA is very popular in the computer vision space.
that "hi all" is re-posting again, ???
slide 12
Could NVIDIAs CUDA be applicable to this domain?
Tx Eric!
real time video stream
hi all,
You can find an example of an ASP on the Primesesnse website.
Attending the lectures live after a long break. Good to be back!!
GPUs have been being used as incremental "CPU time" for awhile now.For parallel programming, google "Halide" for some GOOD info re portability, etc.
@Ann - biggest headache was dealing with real time video stream... it's been quite a while ago - by now these problems are long gone (more powerful h/w, etc...)
slide 11
Hello all, sorry to be late
@Ann: tend to use CPUs, DSPs, and FPGAs. No embedded vision. Have done video conversion. Biggest headache was diagnosing Firewire anomalies.
Suggestion for @Ann -- I'm finding it would be useful (simplify what I'm doing in the background) if the PDF could include some active links (opening into a new tab/page) with samples of an ASSP for example, or a GPGPU, etc -- hardware references, since I'm online and slightly info-starved while I'm listening to voice (which is great, just slower than I can read)... Too bad that URLs embedded here aren't clickable (unless people use the "html" link under the chat window?)...
No specific "typically use"; yes, have implemented; memory useage, accessing the program data-space...
Got audio in Chrome (still no audio in Firefox)
People have had buffering issue with Firefox.
Or try refreshing.
for audio, close your browser and login again
More information on the Primesense part Jeff is talking about:
but MUCH better that yesterday - no annoying "laptop radio" crap...
A few minutes late today and there is no audio... just "buffering" (same as on Monday)
Hello everyone!
Teardown of Microsoft Kinect
For those of you just joining us, today's lecture-related questions are:
- What types of embedded processors do you typically use? CPUs? DSPs? GPUs? FPGAs?
- Have you implemented vision or video functions on embedded processors?
- If so, what was your biggest headache?
Browser refresh cleared up the buffering for me.
@Ann Sr Embbedded Design Engr
CAMshift video tracking, openCV, OpenGL.
Jeff what is your opinion about the performance of an EVS of National Instruments?
audio is working, but volume is rather low at max setting on both Mac and PC
Interested in object tracking with distance-to-object correlation
I'm in firefox and working great
Firefox 15.01 OK -- with Flash 11.3.300.xxx
Vision application: starting with a data stream of not-exactly-image-data and generating connected-surfaces, looking to recognize object position-and-orientation info within the field-of-view of a sensor.
I got the slides but still buffering
R&D technician
Looking at Automated Vehicle -- guidance imaging
@Ann Currently working on Vision Tracking
A lot of people having problems with Firefox
Does Firefox ever stop buffering?
slide 5
vehicle type identification.
@Ann Software Engineer
job title is Sustaining Engineering Project Leader, working on Guided Wave RADAR for mobile tank ( tanker truck) level gauging.
Development Manager, Indutry -- COnsulting -- Industrial Data Collection & Mining Industry --consulting
For those of you just joining us, what kinds of vision applications are you thinking about working on?
FPGAs, uCs, DSPs - no GPUs yet.
Synchronism, getting enough cycles with hi-res sensors, interfacing.
Firefox - still buffering, Chrome - works fine.
For those of you just joining us, please let us know your job title and the industry you're working in.
Right click on Radio Bar above to see your Flash Version
If buffering only probably need to downgrade Adobe Flash to 11.3.300.xxx
Hey, all -- finally caught up to "present time" on the chat window. Audio is working (great!) and PDF slide deck downloaded. Listening to "refresher/update"...
biggest headache was getting OpenCV compiled with all the options that I needed
The tool we are going to talk about tomorrow helps you get started with OpenCV in a matter of minutes.
@Ann Microtel should have been MicroChip
Repeating my earlier comments:
Mac users: yesterdays' looping issues aside, I (Mac OS 10.7 Lion) more generally was unable to hear either yesterday or Monday's lectures via either up-to-date Safari or Firefox via the up-to-date Flash plugin. However, Google Chrome worked (and today is once again working) fine for me.
I also observed from the comments that Windows folks running Firefox were also having problems. I'd suggest either IE or Chrome in this case; either seemed to work for others.
no buffering here,; great audio
audio good today thanks
I had audio before I logged In, but now just Buffering - Firefox 12
Microchip, Atmel and TI MCUs. A bit of FPGAs (Altera and Xilinx).
No embedded vision applications, only on the PC level.
@Ann Amtel & Microtel MCUs ; currently using OpenCV ; biggest headache was getting OpenCV compiled with all the options that I needed
I've used CPU,MCU,and FPGA and have done/doing projects with vision included. Getting noise out of the video display of visual data can be a problem.
no buffering here
GPU in OpenGL
No endless looping today (yesterday was a complete bust!), but I'm back to the insufferable buffering...
Using TI -- Stellaris M3 CORTEX, C2000, MSP430 with C5500 DSP add on.
dsp, fpga
Used cypress
If you're having audio issues, please note that some companies block live audio streams. If you don't hear any audio, try refreshing your browser. The show will be archived and available on this page.
CPUs and FPGAs
Audio stream is working for me. If you are having trouble, please see the suggestions in the chat session below regarding choice of browser.
sounds great
Now just buffering with no audio...frustrating...at least no repeated intro
Refresh worked for me. Had silence.
MCU and DSP
Working after refresh
Audio is working for me.
MP used: Arduino, MSP430, C2000.
First day I have got in! Audio sounds great.
we use DSP and MCU
biggest headache is late changes to h/w, f/w or creeping featuures.
I have not done any embedded work in years...
Not looping here.
Embedded processors MCUs
No haven't done embedded vision applications.
Renesas SH and RX
No current projects Just gathering background knowledge
What types of embedded processors do you typically use? CPUs? DSPs? GPUs? FPGAs?
Have you implemented vision or video functions on embedded processors?
If so, what was your biggest headache?
Audio is working on Chrome + Mac OSx
We have a major repeat/delay going on
Microchip MCU
seems fine for me
Hello from MI again
I reloaded, no more loop.
intro OK here, no looping
Hello from Ukraine
Still don't have the loop fixed
For the Thursday and Friday class.
Please goto: Embedded-Vision Downloads
Repeating intro again...like yesterday
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good afternoon everyone
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Hello everyone
my experience with dropped chats is when a flood of responses after a question to all listeners.
problems with the cloud over the past few days?
I've seen the problem even when things are quiet, like earlier this morning. I've reported it to the appropriate person.
hello from not so sunny Edmonton, AB. Weather report this morning said temp was -1C with the wind chill.
HELLO FROM sunny MIAMI.
I have had a lot of problems posting on chat. only about 1 of 6 of my posts are actually getting through. I am using Chrome on OSX.
I have had to write the last few posts in HTML directly.
There is a lot you can do with micrcontrollers and computer vision. The key is getting the data into the micrcontroller.
In robotics, I work with the TI MSP430G2553 and the Parallax line sensor ( http://www.parallax.com/StoreSearchResults/tabid/768/List/0/SortField/4/ProductID/566/Default.aspx?txtSearch=line+camera )
The parallax line sensor id a 1D camera that is easily interfaced to any MCU with an A/D converter.
I have also looked into the Maxim NTSC to digital converter for MCU apps. This chip makes it easy to interface a camera to a MCU. http://www.maximintegrated.com/datasheet/index.mvp/id/6193
Looking forward to learning how low you can go in obtaining vision information.Wondering if anything is within reach of microcontrollers, or if it needs a multi-chip solution.
Mac users: yesterdays' looping issues aside, I (Mac OS 10.7 Lion) more generally was unable to hear either yesterday or Monday's lectures via either up-to-date Safari or Firefox via the up-to-date Flash plugin. However, Google Chrome worked fine for me.
@Eric, thanks for the TOF link, will read it later when I can do it justice.
For more information on Time-of-Flight camera's check out: http://www.isprs.org/proceedings/XXXVIII/part5/papers/82.pdf
Also, Canesta (purchased by Microsoft) makes the counter/pixel TOF camera.
interesting thanks
@Eric, thanks for the answer. I didn't realize counting directly at GHZ scale was possible for each pixel.
Brian Dipert has posted a great article that expands on the sensor topic I talked about yesterday. You can find the article here:
Good morning, everyone.
I apologize again for the problem with the streaming audio during yesterday's class. I hope that by now, everyone has had a chance to listen to the archived stream. However, if you haven't had a chance to do so, it's OK to wait until after today's class -- yesterday's session and today's are independent.
I'm thinking about "time of flight" for vision systems and seems it should use a reference pulse of light to measure the time-of-flight.
Do these systems use an expanded time sampling system to stretch 1ft/ns (2ft/ns RADAR time) to something much more measurable?
There are two methods used to measure TOF. The first method measure the TOF directly using counters on each pixel clocked in the Ghz range. The second method modulates the pulse using RF frequencies and measure TOF by the phase difference between the outgoing and incoming light pulse.
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I damn near felt a breeze from those airballs at home.
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I wonder if Dudley will get a chance to play tonight.
notice how Bullock produces off the bench, unlike some other people.....*cough* Dudley......
Hopefully, if this is a flagrant foul, we can finally break this game open completely.
Ummm Paul was wide open
Anyone here hear the crew say that JJ Reddick was shooting pregame for a long time and looked good. I think Doc is picking a game to bring JJ and Jamal back at the same time!
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|21st August 2008 12:28 PM
Well unregistered #47, that is the point, for some reason!
My '97 and '99 RRD's were spot on or close to that, actually: a 281 and a 278 slalom boards, both well below 6.0 kg. I don't think it depended from the brand, maybe I was very lucky, or maybe Cobra was working well back then.
The obvious suspect that comes to mind is that boards erring to the "-" side of that tolerance go to team riders, the heavier ones to me and you. All together, they make that nice average weight.
The other possible parameter, which is less obvious and more difficult to check, and that was discreetly and candidly brought in by Svein, is about rocker line (in)consistency. Performance loose from that can probably be far more serious than that resulting from a "+x%" weight. Better not to think about that...
In the end, one could discover things are far worse now than before the "production boards" rule. Nowadays, theorically team riders must ride the same boards we buy in shop. In reality, their boards "could be" selected ones, with good shape consistency and lighter weights. Plus, "it could be" team riders have access to delicate operations such as bottom re-fairing and rail sharpening. Lesser and recreational riders have to settle with what comes from the shops, and those could turn out to have bad shape consistency and heavish weights: the dogs.
This could even be OK, if shapes were always correct and consistent and weight tolerances were tighter! But "it could be" there are some problems here instead. Instead of using the same boards with same performances team riders use, "it could be" we have now the hugest performance gap ever between what top riders have and what we get in shop; and no hope to fill it thanks to a good shaper living near.
For this reason I strongly hope that Starboard, as the market leader and a company guided with inspiration, will make an effort in this direction. We know that even glass, when properly used, can lead to light strong boards. So I'd love to see less sporting of new complex building recipes, which after all aren't complex at all - it's windsurfing boards not space shuttles!, less use of exotic laminates alongside with plenty of filler, and good shape consistency and the assurance of acceptable weights instead. A very simple idea and a first step could be that of stating "maximum accepted weight" instead of "average production weight +/- tolerances".
|21st August 2008 06:12 AM
It good to hear that i should be able to buy exactly the same board as a dream team rider, since that is what i pay for and expect.
What really worries me and not just with Starboard, out of the dozens of boards that i have purchased over the past few years, i have yet to find a board that is -5 or 6% of the average weight. I think i can say for sure that it is always + of the average weight, usually towards or even higher than the max tolerance.
If the weights stated are average weights from actual production, then by the law of averages i should stand a chance of finding a light board, but i never can.
I trust that the new measures you have put in place can help reduce weight variation.
|21st August 2008 02:37 AM
Davide, you can see the basics of the wood and woodcarbon layups on the "technology page", http://www.star-board.com/2009/pages...technology.php. You can see that a lot of things are different. The WC board is a "wave" model and the W board a "regular", I think, but the basics are there in both. For example, in the woodcarbon boards, wood is used as reinforcement while in the wood boards it's use all over the board. So we are not trying to fool anybody.
And I'm sorry if I was in some way implying I was discussing glass vs carbon. My understanding was that the discussion was about weight (as a function the particular constructions) relative to riding characteristics, but maybe I was unclear somewhere. If we just talk about how the aforementioned aspects of riding (cutbacks etc) are affacted by a simple fiber change I agree its not a big deal.
|21st August 2008 01:40 AM
What I am saying is that if you ONLY change from glass to carbon the weight gain would not be 10-15% (or 20% as you claimed just a few threads above) of the board weight: Not even close to that.
Assuming that there are such large differences in weights, other construction factors are into play And all the already extremely vague discussion about the merits/de-merits of carbon vs glass is completely moot.
PS I cannot really imagine what those 'factors', having to do with "optimization" of different materials, are. Can you give specifics? From Ian Fox reply it would appear that the test with the Isonics only involved switching to carbon fiber.
|21st August 2008 01:27 AM
I don't get it, Davide? Are you suggesting that the "honest" way to do it is to only change glass for carbon? And that if you do other changes to the construction it would be in some way dishonest (=only marketing)?
To me that would be very foolish of the constructors and I think the sound way to do it is to consider the construction as a whole. Glass or carbon needs to be optimized in different ways, and as you know even different types of carbon will work very differently in the board and require the rest of the construction to be different to. In fact, the smaller "wave type" woodcarbon boards use a different carbon and hence a different construction overall than the bigger boards.
And at least from my side, the discussion have been about the different constructions and how they are to sail relative each other. Or maybe about how a given weight decrease affects the feel on the water. But not about if changing a given layer in a given board from glass to carbon will mean anything.
And again, the customer can choose if he wishes to pay more for the lighter construction. And at least from my point of view, Starboard has not pushed the woodcarbon in marketing in an kind of outrageous way either. It's an option that is now offered for those who want it.
|21st August 2008 01:24 AM
|Thanks Svein for weighing in with your thoughts here. Outside of the performance merits of different technologies, it's refreshing to see that Starboard is bringing in added quality control functions to better ensure that physical shape specification and tolerances are being maintained. In you master development and design studies, I'm presuming that the boards are being built custom in your in-house manufacturing facility. Once a design has been defined and frozen for production, I was wondering whether your team continues with actual testing contrasting the master with the production models over the year to verify that performance targets are being met by the folks at Cobra.
|21st August 2008 12:48 AM
Just for reference: If a board of the size of my Acid 74 2007 switched 4 layers (sandwich total) of 6.0z S-glass to 4.5oz Carbon the weight gain would be about 150-180 grams. However you probably would not want to go for such a light carbon to laminate the bottom of the board ... so there is goes 1/4 to 1/2 of your weight gain ...
|20th August 2008 04:07 PM
To complete my above post.
I admit that the feel of riding a wood racer is a very nice one. I also trust that adding "geometrical" stability by means of the thick wood veneer adds to the boards' shape stability, and that is a very good thing in my view. And, above all, I would have to be crazy to deny that iSonics are probably the most successfully competitive racers ever (which does not imply their build standard is the best around).
|20th August 2008 04:00 PM
No less than the big boss...
Svein, thank you very much for your direct intervention and clarification. After reading your post, here is what I think.
1) My reserves about "corporate" outings still hold, even more so in your case, of course.
2) I can believe that a wood carbon iSonic would be just 150 - 300 gms. lighter than a standard wood one. Still I am curious to know how much your test protos do really weight. IF they are spot on the "average production" stated weight, or close to, as I already said (i. e.: iS101 6.3 kg) in my view they have a nice weight. Unfortunately I happened to order a Sonic95 in '06. When it arrived I was able to compare its weight with a Falcon90 that was in the shop. Finally I carefully weighted it at 6.6 kg, which is not that much more than the stated 6.3 after all and well within tolerances, but... (I used to purchase RRD's in older times, probably when Cobra was not the undisputed market leader yet, and those were spot on, so I assumed the Sonic would have been spot on too). Be assured nothing the like will happen to me once again.
3) If I was in your shoes I would introduce lighter manufacturing, be it wood carbon or else, at no extra cost for iSonics; eventually, not even claiming it; since now iSonics are about the heaviest slalom boards available AND the most expensive ones.
4) Whatever you say or swear, I will NEVER believe that dream team riders are on boards similar to those I can buy in shop. I am sure that, at very least, they are handed a few selected samples to choose from by direct testing. As for BD, I remember pictures of the Canaries '07 leg with him jumping and showing the bottom of his board; not the usual white painted bottom, but one showing very clearly traces of substantial reshaping/fairing. He didn't even bother to put some fresh white on it. Should I believe he rode Alacati on boards bought blind out of the shop? Not even if he himself tells me.
5) "However, we as the customer pay the bills...": +1. Bad idea to state that intention of yours.
|20th August 2008 03:56 PM
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Hi unregistered,
So far the chances for you and Antoine to get the board that is closest to the master board have been equal, so over the last 14 years we have indeed met your request.
In the future, we want as explained include a few extra QC stations , and that will help our standard improve even further, and that for everyone.
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Thanks Fred
Catching up
Great slides. Thanks Fred..
Another great session. Thanks Fred.
I have not experimented with MPLAB-X.
Have not programmed for PIC, have not used PICBASIC PRO.
Downloading slide deck.
Getting caught up on archived classes. Accidently skipped over this session.
Hello from Beaverton, Oregon.
hello all from Edmonton, Alberta.
Thank you.
Good to see you port 'C' to PIC BASIC. Would like to have a few slides on setting up modular files for various processors (as an approach, not particular details necessarily, but for a few examples) with guidelines and caveats. This is not to create a universal / multi-platform program, but to introduce the concept of being able to set up modular header type files for configuring to particular devices / platforms where porting a relatively simple application like a bootloader may make sense ...
Slides are hard to read. I appreciate the cute idea of the background(s) but the text is often washed out
Thanks anyway for archiving these presentations, good to review as time permits
good presentation - a little tough to read the ppt
I'm not familar with PIC basic 3 nor do I plan on using it
Looking forward to another action packed presentation
Picking up day 4
Awesome presentation. Thanks
The .ZIP file URL is properly spelled (http://www.edtp.com/dsn/bootloader-code-designnews.zip) in the text but the actual embedded HTML target when clicked on is spelled /dns/ by mistake . So copy target URL text rather than clicking on hyperlink.
I can examine the two .PBP files, but the .ZIP file gives the 404 invalid URL target error. Zip file not home.
Thanks Fred, I've used MPLAB-X briefly but it's great that there is a Linux version.
Thanks again
This is the only link that works for me --> http://www.edtp.com/dsn/pbp-lcd-driver-app.pbp
Did everyone else find the links to work?
agreed about background issue, probably need to deem background sligtly :)
I have briefly used MPLAB X, but at the same time I had just bought a ICD3 and I was having some troubles. So I went back to MPLAB 8.x for now until I get the issue sorted out. But for the short time I used MPLAB X I liked what I saw, and I will be going back to it hopefully soon.
Great presentation as always, but the black text was very hard to read against the background.
@bitbanger55 Good luck and Godspeed!
C ant
See you all here tomorrow providing the Nor'Easter snow storm doesn't clobber us.
Hasty Banana!
Thanks again to everyone that came to "see" Rich and me today. It's great to interact with you in the chat.
With that, I think I've answered all of the questions. So, I'm out.. Hasta Manana!
Thank you Fred, I am learning a lot from you and from all participants. Thanks
Hey Fred! Sorry, I missed the live stream, but checking out the archive now. Thanks again!!!
It works:
Fred, the only link that works for me is the Bootloader C Source link
@CurtD: http://www.edtp.com/dsn/pbp-lcd-driver.pbp
Tested.. make sure you have dsn instead of dns.. ( TCP/IP on my brain..)
@CurtD: Change dns to dsn in the links.
Hi Fred, I miss past two days of lectures and you may have already cover this. Is there a recommanded dev kit to test or play around? Thanks.
@THasham: The Microchip Explorer boards are the most universal. You can plug just about anything into them. Microchip makes a bunch of pluggable PICtails that contain various peripherals. The micros are also pluggable.
Curious - are you or anyone using MPLAB-X with PICkit3 on a Windows XP machine? I could never get it to recognize my hardware. I put MPLAB v8 back on and everything works.
@JayPaxman: I don't have any XP machines that are still living. So, I have never tried it.
So Mr. Fred, as a Microchip 'design partner' are you involved with a new chip design?
will you be designing with FPGAs in the future?
@KaRobotics: I've gone undercover a couple of times, but nothing going on right now.
I've done some FPGA work, but my customer base is primarily PIC micros.
Hi Fred, as usual another great presentation.
I have a question: are all variables global in PBP? Seems that they are and that that could get really confusing.
It also looks like there are a lot of reservered variables that add to the complication.
What has been you experience with this?
@Jeff M: They are all global. I don't have a problem with that in that I arrange them in a logical order and give them very descriptive names. I also don't "reuse" a variable for another purpose. That keeps the code clean and the logic on track.
What do you think of the OLIMEX single board. It was in a colum during this presentation from Digi-Key?
Have you used it.
@RMRSS: Have not used that particular board. However, their boards that I have used are top quality.
Are there any known limitations with Pickit 2 and Pickit 3 for this project?
Can Pickit 2 be used instead of Pickit 3?
@Anatoliy1086: According to the Microchip web site, PICkit2 does not support the PIC18F47J13.
Is there any open source logic analyizer software for the PicKit 3?
Have to leave. Everybody have a great day. Thanks Fred.
i also had isssues with the simulator in MPLAB IDE.
How is the simulator in PICbasic pro?
Is the transition from MPLAB IDE to PICBasic smooth?
@vlad: I've never used the simulator. However, I have had zero problems debugging with a PICkit3 and MPLAB/MPLABX.
@JayPaxman: Not sure. But I had to run it anyway. Maybe it set up the drivers the way they were supposed to be in the first place.
@JayPaxman I had some early problems with my PicKit3 and went back to using PicKit2. When I instaled MPLAB-X I seem to remember the PicKit3 needed a firmware update and seemed to work after that. I have not done too much with PICs since I went to MPLAB-X a couple of months ago. All on an XP box.
dns should be dsn in the links... getting old and senile
Thanks a bushel Fred :)
Thank you all..have a good day!
the dns should be dns in the download links
Dear Fred, would you please send us the link to your software for this project so we may try it
I'm not sure how to use Driver Switcher. It shows
RealICE: Setup for X
ICD3: No Change
PM3: No Change
PIC32 SK: No Change
but nothing anywhere about PICkit3. When I select any of those, it changes the driver names and locations. What is it supposed to do for me to help this problem?
bye for now :)
good day to all
thank you for a good info
@JayPaxman: The reason I ask that is because mine wouldn't recognize my ICD3 on Window's 7 and that's what Microchip told me to do. It works now.
Fred, what would make someone use picbasic insteado of C?
@caa028: There's history behind PBP. In the beginning, there were no C compilers. Every early personal computer had a flavor of BASIC built into it. So, early nerds used BASIC and it worked for them. PBP is a natural progression for some folks. C isn't for everyone. Why go off and spend time on the C learning curve when you can simply code in a goto or a gosub?
Thanks Fred.. Any recommendation on the board?
Where can I get the dev kit? and how much it cost?
thanks Fred, good session
What does PicBasic cost and who sells it?
@bitbanger55: PBP is sold by microEngineering Labs.. It's about $250 for the Pro edition.
@JayPaxman: Did you run MPLAB Driver Switcher?
As I am new to Microchip PIC...Could you please provied website which helps to learn PIC?
@cmpatel: The best way to learn PIC is do PIC. I suggest getting your hands on one of the many PIC books out there and building up the projects contained within them. Chuck Hellebuyck has some good stuff. You will also find some helpful learning projects in the magazines that support PIC. Try searchin on "Fred Eady" and you'll get some references to stuff I have done.
another great one - thanks Fred
Thank you Kentj.
Fred, looking at your code I get the impression that in PicBasic all variables are global and subroutines don't take parameters. That seems like it would make anything but a trivial program more difficult to debug.
@hwhankins: That's correct and that's BASIC. Believe it or not, it's not that bad. The PBP Ethernet driver port went smoothly and I was able to use MPLAB and a hockey puck 2 to debug.
@anthonyt: I can answer that one. Yes, I'm using it on a PIC32MX695.
Can this approach to coding a bootloader be used with other PIC processors that are self-programming FLASH capable? Thanks.
Fred, are reason for using PICBasic for it tight support of Micro OS?
@kostya2021: Not really. I though it would be good to introduce the class to an alternative language that happens to be a time-proven tool.
Hi Fred, as usual another great presentation.
For a class about bootloaders there has been little to no information about actually creating a bootloader. More time spent explaining basic hardware functionality such as SPI. That belongs in a different class.
@ftfSteve: I'm open to suggestions that improve the quality of the class. What do you suggest?
FYI, updating to LibreOffice 126.96.36.199 fixed the ppt viewing issue for that app.
Fred, other than for people who know basic and don't know C why would you want to use basic instead of C?
@hwhankins: I actually have customers that use PBP exclusively in their design efforts. I think it's what you get exposed to first and what worked for you first. Also, PBP has a bunch of built-in functions that work without support coding overhead.
thanks Fred
is picbasic more robust (ie generate smaller code) than c compilers?
if not buy the pro version of hi-tec the other compiler modes can generate fairly large code
@miket: PBP is robust to the point that I ported a C-based Ethernet driver to PBP and it worked just as well as the original C version. You can check it out on the MELABS forum or chase down the back issue of Nuts and Volts that featured the project.
What is LCD_SHDN = 1 does?
@cmpatel: Writing a 1 to the LCD_SHDN pin enables the MCP1804 LDO voltage regulator, which supplies 3.0 volts to the LCD backlight.
Thanks again,
On the down side though, MPLAB X tends to hickup frequently, sometimes requiring exiting and re-entering the IDE
Thanks Fred & Rich for excellent presentations
Does the dev kit comes with the software or program?
Currently using MPLAB X and finding quite a few new things I like, especially around writing libraries...we use multiple different PIC32 processors and the ability to build library projects with different configurations is quite smooth.
Thank You
I just got mplab X working under Linux and what I have seen so far I like. I was aware of Pic BASIC but have not had chance to use yet. Glad I came to your lecture... Thanks!
Thanks Fred!
i am using MPLAB IDE for past 3 years
Thank you Design News and Digikey
still use mplab 8.xx
Great Presentation, thanks Fred
Switched over to MPLAB-X a couple of months ago. Used earlier versions of MPLAB for many years.
Thank you Fred!
Thanx Fred! Good class.
Not Using MPLAB.
Thanks Fred.
Thanks Fred and Rich!
Rich thank you
Ooops late today....will catch up in archive. Thank you.
Use MPLAB, but not Picbasic
Thanks again Fred!
I've used MPLAB X. It's nice having tools that run native on a Mac!
Thank you Fred, Rich and Digikey.
Have not used MPlab yet.
Fred, Thank you for today's lecture
thank Frank
Excellent presentation
Fred, thank you! You are a lot of fun to listen to!! :)
Nice fred...thanks
I am using MPLAB for a long time
No I was not aware. Have not used MPLAB X, will try soon
I'm using MPLABX and have become rather comfortable with it. I'm not familiar with the hardware offered.
Not using MPLAB-X (now using Cortex-M)
I've only used C and assembly with PIC chips. The PIC BASIC is easy to follow and having an example of the bootloader working with and application is useful.
Not familiar with PicBasic.
Connection problems
I am interested in C program too
Good evening from Iasi, Romania
Good morning all from CA
What is LCD_SHDN = 1 does?
no audio
I started way back in 1997 with PICstart
Use PICBasic Pro and PICs.
Should have stayed consistent with C programming language. Should not need to waste time explaining the conversion to Basic programming language
This is hopeless. I get "blog talk radio" followed by about one second of audio and then the audio dies. Can't reload and fix it. It seems to work on archieved lectures, just not live ones. I'll give up and catch this on the archieve when it becomes available.
No experience wih pic
No experience with PICBASIC PRO, but heard how powerful/useful it is
Microcode Engineering Labs ?
sounds like an older programming technique
No experiance with pic basic pro
Not Familiar with PICBASIC PRO.
Hi everyone
never heard of it.. :)
Not familiar
Same here - audio is loud and clear now. Had to reload the page (player was unresponsive).
Played some - no expert!
No experience with picbasic pro3.0
Been a while. Back when we UV erased parts !
Written a lot of Pic code, never used PicBasic pro
PICBASIC: no, no
I use PIC's c compilers
I am lesrning about it
Have not used PICBasic, only assembly and C
Never used PICBASIC (any flavor)
Not familiar with PICBASIC PRO
Audio player loaded, but had to refresh page to get audio player to work
Sound is good
Hello everyone!
Audio and slides are fine
hello from Westchester County New York
2 minutes
Audio is up.
Here we go audio is up!!
Which STL?
I'm downloading LibreOffice 4.0.0 now to see if that works.
FYE, I use LibreOffice 3.6 Impress and the slides are fine
Hi from Torrrance, CA
Hello from Albuquerque.
Hi some
hello from STL
Hi All
I have powerpoint 2007 and the slides look ok, so must be something with the viewer.
I have Open Office and with that it is hard to see PPT.
After installing PowerPoint Viewer 2010 I got beautifull view, it took me 5 min to download and inatall PPV2010.
Thank you => drw36
Hi from sunny Casper, WY
I have office 2003 and some slides are almost unreable
Thanks for posting information about the slides. They are unreadable without that information.
Hello from Guadalajara, México
Hello from sunny (today) Rockwell Automation in Mayfield Hts, Ohio
Hello again from sunny and warm Minnesota...
My open office still looks the same, great!
eight minutes and counting
Hi from Montreal
@drw36: Thanks, I will check it out. I stuck with 2007, since I have Word, Excel, & Outlook 2007. I mainly wanted to warn others to check it out before the presentation, rather than during Fred's avalanche of information. ;-)
Hello from Greensboro, NC
@LeoSieben: I viewed with LibreOffice 220.127.116.11 and it has the issue. There is an update I need to download which may resolve the problem for that app.
Hi every body
Ah, there we go. Removing the background pictures makes them A-OK.
PPT looks good in Open Office
@EbB_Vt: PowerPoint Viewer 2010 from MS will likely resolve your issue. It's still a free download.
Yep, pretty much unreadable on Keynote also.
Oh, well, I'll muddle through.
@kentJ A little known thing about DigiKey is that if you print out the order form, include a check, and mail it, they pick up the shipping charges if it is over $25. Great if you are not in a big hurry. I live in Wisconsin and I can usually mail an order on Monday and have the order by Friday. YMMV
hi all
and Mr. Fred's powerpoints are getting larger and larger ;)))
@drw36: It must be an issue with my PowerPoint Viewer 2007. I have just the viewer, not full PowerPoint.
Hi Folks. You know the drill. Download the slides and fasten your seatbelts.
yes time flies my friend.... indeed
Wow, Day 4.
Hello from Milford, CT
If these slide presentations were printed to PDF there wouldn't be any viewer issues. Outputting to PDF or using a BullZip PDF printer driver or similar makes this easy. Then viewing would be open.
@EbB_VT: Oh, I don't have that issue viewing with PowerPoint. But I just viewed it with LibreOffice and I see what you are talking about. LibreOffice doesn't implement any of the contrast differences. All background images are full on and interfere with the slide text.
@Fred Eady: It appears that the background feature you've used in todays deck is not compatible with non MS PowerPoint viewers.
Hello from Scottsdale
Hello from Texas City, Texas
Good afternoon from St. Louis, MO.
@drw36: When I view slide 4, the right side of the first two lines ("Inform the ...", "Feed the ...") are unreadable against the black of the background image (lower part of the LCD display).
Hello, Huntsville Al.
@EbB_VT: It appears that the contrast is intentional. The dark line(s) in the list on those slides is to highlight the topic about to be covered.
buon giorno
Hey, - Atlanta, GA
Good afternoon from Raleigh
Hi from Oregon
If you don't get enough snow in VT we'll truck some more up to you from Boston...latest computer hr to hr projection says 34.5 inches by 530AM Sunday in town,currently bare ground,LOL
Hello from Winston-Salem, NC!
Goodday all
Hello from Manitowoc, WI.
@jcbacas: Sorry, there is no alternate PPT.
howdy all
Hello All.
hi all!
@EdB_Vt - Sounds like fun - Enjoy!
Fred, where is the alternate to the PPT ? (not really readable)
Good Morning
@LevitonDave - I'm looking forward to some snow in Vermont so I can get in some snowshoeing this weekend.
Hi everyone, good morning.
Hello from Chicago
Hello World.
Hi from Portlandia - Dry, bright "rain" today so not sure who we offended to get the nice weather. Need to figure it out so we can do it again. :0
Sorry for the NE and the coming onslot - good luck and keep warm.
Good Morning, everyone
Good Morning from Boston; getting ready for the Blizzard and checking back up systems power to be ready!
Good Morning from Tennessee
Morning from Portland Oregon
Howdy folks!! :)
Good morning from SoCAL
Howdy! Just posted the bootloader source code. The code in the zip file is particular to this project. So, you will want to modify it to fit your bootloader project. The code works with the latest version of the Microchip Application Libraries. I used MPLABX. a PICkit3 and the latest version of the C18 C compiler.
See y'all at 2PM..
Good Morning from Sunny San Jose, CA.
It's 39°F and a High of 55°F.
A Heads-Up to all: I just looked at today's slide deck "CEC-day4-bootloaderv2.ppt".Uing PowerPoint Viewer 2007, there is not much contrast between the slide's text and background. Since I always make a PDF and annotate during the presentation, I grabbed the text from the offending slides and inserted annotations with white backgrounds. Take the time to check it out and decide what works for you.
Yes, Greetings (It sure is shorter than "Good (period of time of day)" that I usually put)
Greetings (time zone neutral)
Good Morning to all!
Digikey is another great source except you have to pay shipping, handling, and tax. but their search tool is great for selecting what you want in a processor.
@rruther2: One nice thing about Microchip is you can buy one device at a time. Also you can get some free samples. I just got a sample of the 25LC1024 EEPROM. I will, however, be including it in production products.
Hello from Milwaukee!
@rruther2: Search for the MCU part number on the Microchip site and you'll find links to various demo board products for sale.
Good Morning from Mobile, AL
I studied the slides and need a device.
How to procure one. I tried the edtp.com
and my money is no good.? Rod. R.
Download slide deck.
Linkage checkup.


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The robot can be outfitted with multiple attachments such as a cell-sprayer that can spray pesticides or fertilizers and can even weed areas intertwined with the crops. Its able to do so with the help of strategically positioned cameras that take pictures of the ground, which are then sent to an onboard computer that analyzes the images and identifies both the crops and weeds (programmed with 20 known species per geographic area).
Robots are even being employed to harvest crops, further maximizing the efficiency associated with robotic farmers. One such robot is known as the Robotic Strawberry Harvester from Robotic Harvesting LLC. The mechanical farmhand is autonomous in the true sense of the word and is self-propelled, navigating and harvesting, and as the name suggests, is excellent in picking ripe strawberries. Robot harvesting outfitted the robot with a camera array capable of taking "stereovision" photos both above and below the plants leaves to collect data on fruit (whether its ripe or not), flower count, plant pathogens (diseases), and other items of interest.
The camera system can be reprogrammed to identify and collect data on a number of crops in 3D space (giving the robot the capability to see like humans) not just strawberries, and uses specialized software to discern whether the fruit is ripe. Once identified, the robot uses a three-pronged outfitted robotic arm to pick the fruit, which is then placed on a convenient tiny conveyor belt that drops the fruit off in a collection basket on top of the robot.
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Even an unmanned drive-thru kiosk can serve you with a smile. A drive-thru ATM surprised a customer when it printed out receipts with smiley faces.
The customer was withdrawing cash from the ATM. Right after the machine dished out the correct receipt, several receipts with smiley faces followed. The man started pulling friendly- faced slips from the printer and showed them to the camera.
"The receipts eventually stopped. The guy in the car next to me was concerned," the man wrote on his YouTube video.
It wasn't the first time that it has happened. An ATM in Singapore printed a similar receipt before, but it was due to a printer problem. A smiley face is usually printed by default whenever an ATM printer encounters an error.
Since the video was uploaded, it has reached more than 261,000 views on YouTube.


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Industrial Coffee Table
- Overview
Handsome, hardworking and one of a kind. Just like the original, this coffee table-sized version of the Industrial Dining Table features a top made of reclaimed saal wood. The wood's distinctive grain differs from table to table, with natural nicks and knots giving it its character.
- 48"w x 24"d x 16"h.
- Natural saal wood top with oil finish.
- Iron frame and legs.
- No two tables are exactly the same; each ages differently over time.
- To prevent cracking, protect solid wood from significant temperature and humidity fluctuations.
- Made in India.
- Details + Dimensions
- Overall product dimensions: 48"w x 24"d x 16"h.
- Thickness of tabletop: 1.37".
- Overhang of tabletop: 5".
- Distance between legs (front to back): 21".
- Distance between legs (side to side): 35".
- Clearance under middle of coffee table: 14.5".
- Number of boxes: 1
- Shipping package: 57.5"w x 27.5"d x 9.5"h.
- Package weight: 78 lbs.
Minimal assembly required.
Wipe clean with a soft, dry cloth. To protect the finish, avoid use of chemicals and household cleaners. Hardware may loosen over time.
- Shipping + Return Info
Delivery Information
- Most purchases are shipped from our Distribution Center by UPS, arriving in 4-5 business days.
- Quick Ship fabric items receive delivery in 2 - 4 weeks.
- Special order fabric (SPO) items receive delivery in 8 -10 weeks.
- For our guide to measuring for delivery click here.
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We take great pride in the quality of our merchandise. If for any reason you are not happy with your purchase, you may return the item(s) within 30 days of receiving the order for a full refund of the merchandise cost. After 30 days, we will replace or refund your purchase against manufacturer's defects ONLY. Please note that we cannot accept returns on mattresses, monogrammed/personalized items, special order upholstery items and special order rugs, one-of-a-kind rugs, or on items damaged through normal wear and tear. We also cannot accept returns of final-sale items, which are identified by a price ending in .99 or .97. Delivery fees are non-refundable.
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text: This Tangram Puzzle is fashioned after an ancient Chinese Puzzle made of five triangles, a square and a rhomboid which can be formed into thousands of silhouettes. Waldorf teachers love it for teaching children spatial mathematics. In the instruction book, there are images which one tries to make using the triangular pieces. It comes as a 5" square with pieces cut from Maple, Walnut, Cherry and Poplar woods and comes with a cloth bag and an instruction booklet which includes solutions. Made in the USA!


text: The motif on our Flower Children Dish Set is inspired by Elsa Beskow's book, The Flower's Festival. It is a delightful tale of how the flowers celebrate their Midsummer festival. The set includes a full sizes flat plate, bowl with removable suction cup base, and a handled mug with a lid--all packaged in a gift box. Made of safe melamine (a very dense plastic). All items are dishwasher safe, may use in microwave (max 1 min/800w). BPA and PVC FREE. Made in China. Imported to Sweden, meets all European standards.


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I'll have to make it a point to dig up my old prom photos for some good laughs.
Until then, you will just have to endure this tutorial for prom makeup so you high school girls can get your dance on this year.
I was actually pleasantly surprised with these Forever 21 lashes. Usually when I see lashes this style they are too long but these are shorter and full, which is perfect for prom. They are a bit too much for everyday makeup but I think they add the right touch of drama for a special occasion.
I pulled my hair up to simulate how it would look with an updo. I actually like it better this way! It really shows off the eyes without all the distracting hair.
Here are some of my personal tried-and-true tips for prom or other special occasions with lots of pictures:
1. Avoid foundation with high spf since this will give you a mask-face in photos.
2. Go for a matte finish on your face instead of satin or pearl so you don't look oily.
3. Use a highlight shade that is matte or nearly matte. This brings more attention to your eyes and not your brow bone.
4. Go for classic cheeks and lips. Heavy lipliner, dark lips, or overly contoured cheeks may haunt you years later. ;D
5. In your purse or clutch, keep it simple. Gloss and blotting sheets are lightweight and make for easy touch-ups.
6. Neutral shadows will always look great with bright dresses, and jewel-tone dresses really pop with a similar accent color in your shadow.
7. For neutral-colored dresses like black, grey, or gold, a neutral eye with bright lips looks really classy.
8. Be safe and have fun! No matter what happens, you will never regret dancing with the girls, laughing, and feeling beautiful on prom night.
I hope this tutorial was helpful! I know I wish I had youtube videos to help me out when I got ready for my prom (which was eons ago because I'm so darn OLD).
Let me know in the comments:
what your best (or worst) high school dance memory was
what color and style your dress is if you are going to prom this year
I hear kids these days don't wear the giant, pouffy, floor-length princess dresses that we wore back when I was in high school. Loooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllyougirlsdon'tknowwhatyou'remissingouton. I am a pretty pretty princess!


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South Carolina saw an unprecedented breach of security as millions of taxpayers' personal information was reported stolen in November of last year.
Now, the S.C. Department of Revenue is sending out notification letters to the 3.8 million filers who could be at risk of their tax information being misused with advise on steps the Department of Revenue believes should be taken.
Here are answers to some of the questions that have arisen from those who have received notification and those who have not:
Q: Has the S.C. Department of Revenue mailed out the notification letters yet?
A: According to information from Gov. Nikki Haley's office, notifications should have been sent out to more than 2 million South Carolina taxpayers by now. As of Jan. 11, only 1.5 million letters had been sent out, with around 100,000 being mailed every day after, according to governor's office.
Approximately 3.8 million letters will be sent out.
Q: What does the letter mean?
A: The letter means that your tax return data has been hacked.
The letter reconfirms that the data of all who filed their tax returns electronically since 1998 have been compromised. If you are one of the unlucky millions who have had their personal information stolen, you are reportedly going to receive a notification.
Q: What is the deadline to sign-up for Identity Theft Protection?
A: The enrollment period has been extended, for individuals, until March 31. Plans to cover minor children, whose Social Security numbers were listed on electronic returns, are open until May 31.
Q: If I get a letter, what am I supposed to do with it?
A: The letters are being sent to inform taxpayers who have been affected by the security breach, rather than demanding any action. The letter urges the recipient to take action, by signing up for identity theft protection.
"We are writing you today, first, to confirm that – as an electronic tax filer – your tax information was compromised and, second, to encourage you to take immediate steps to protect yourself against identity theft," the letter reads.
Q: What is the protection offered and advised by the state?
A: Experian's "ProtectMyID" system issues alerts when a credit report reflects new activity, like adding a new credit card or personal loan. It is the responsibility of the individual who receives the alert to determine if the new information is accurate and reflects recent financial activity known to the individual or if it is unknown and possibly fraudulent.
If you are signed up and you believe that information on your credit report may be the result of fraud, membership gives you access to a fraud resolution specialist who will assist you. Call 1-866-578-5422 and they will assign you a fraud resolution specialist.
Q: Does the letter address individuals?
A: No, the letter begins, "Dear South Carolina Taxpayer." The letter, winging its way to the hacked, is a generic address to all.
Q: What about the information of dependents?
A: The letter states, "The tax information that was compromised includes Social Security numbers of you and your dependents, if you claimed dependents on a tax return." The same applies for bank account numbers, if you listed them on your return.
As well as the individual protection being paid for by the state, Experian's Family Secure plan is open for registration until May 31. This is to register minor children who may have had their Social Security numbers stolen.
Q: How do I sign up for protection? What if I don't have an available Internet connection?
A: You can register for free protection from Experian either online or via phone.
On the web, visit www.protectmyid.com/scdor and use the code SCDOR123. From there you will be prompted for personal information in order to set up an account. Over the phone, call 1-866-578- 5422. When calling the number, you will be told about how to enroll online – don't hang up. If you need to speak to a live operator, be sure to stay on the line. Enrolling as an individual is open until March 31. Experian's Family Secure plan is open until May 31.
Q: What if I serve in the military and filed taxes in South Carolina since 1998 to the present?
A: The State of South Carolina will work with the U.S. Department of Defense to identify and notify all military personnel who have filed South Carolina taxes since 1998 to the present.


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Preventative Spinner® Bike Maintenance
Performing regularly scheduled preventative maintenance is essential to keeping your Spinner® bikes in top operating condition. Without preventative maintenance, normal wear and tear may cause cumulative effects, such as misalignment or early replacement of parts.
Following is a list of factory-recommended preventative maintenance requirements and schedules along with additional detailed procedures. For more information, please download the Preventative Maintenance Handbook, a comprehensive guide to maintaining your Star Trac® Spinner bikes.
Please note: This handbook is not intended as a replacement to the Owner's Manual.
Daily Maintenance Checklist
Critical PointsThe life of the bike will be determined by how consistent daily maintenance is performed.
- Wiping down the bike at the end of each day, or preferably at the end of each class will prevent rust and other forms of corrosion to build up. Never use abrasive cleaning liquids or oil base when wiping down the bike.
- Do not wipe down the chain with soap or towel. Use a cleaning brush to remove any debris buildup if needed. At the end of each class, students should release all the tension from the bike to allow perspiration to evaporate.
- If your facility allows members to interchange pedals, then it is critical that the pedals are checked after each class to prevent damage and possible injury.
- Water bottle cages are easily damaged during class when oversized bottles are forced to fit within bottle cage. Checking and tightening the screws will help prevent damage.
Wipe DownUsing an absorbent cloth, focus on all areas that perspiration can settle. Raise all posts to the highest setting to expose moisture.
- Handlebar
- Flywheel
- Front leg assembly
- Back leg assembly
- Chain guard
- Brake knob and bolt assembly
- Pop pins
- Levelling feet
InspectionInspect major moving parts that require constant proper torque, which can cause injury or damage if ignored.
- Crank arms: Use a foot pound torque wrench 30 to 35 pounds.
- Pedals: Use a pedal wrench. Verify that the pedal is not cross-threaded.
- Water bottle: Tighten assembly screws.


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Alex Rodriguez just wants to get back on the field, even if it's four levels below Major League Baseball.
The controversial New York Yankees star makes his 2013 debut Tuesday night, not in pinstripes, but wearing purple and gold for a rehabilitation start on Two-for-$20 Date Night at Charleston's Riley Park. Rodriguez, sidelined since offseason hip surgery, will play at least three innings for the Low Class A RiverDogs on Tuesday night against the Rome Braves and might stick around for more innings Wednesday night.
Game time is 7 p.m. both nights.
"It will be the first game that I play in, in maybe over eight months," Rodriguez told reporters at the Yankees spring training complex in Tampa, Fla. "It's been a long time. It's going to be great to suit up again. It gets me one step closer to helping my team win in New York."
The RiverDogs are just as thrilled.
"Certainly A-Rod is a little more mainstream than most players," RiverDogs general manager Dave Echols said. "You may not be an A-Rod fan, but like him or not, he's fun to watch. We're anxious to see how A-Rod is progressing. It should be fun."
Sellouts are expected Tuesday and Wednesday. The Wednesday night "Fourth of July" celebration game was a near-sellout before the A-Rod news Monday afternoon (the RiverDogs are on the road Thursday).
An ESPN crew is on the way. The RiverDogs expect more media than the modest press box can handle.
"We're trying to scramble," Echols said.
Derek Jeter also is on the Yankees' disabled list, rehabbing a broken ankle in Tampa. How about Jeter in a RiverDogs uniform?
"We haven't heard that yet," Echols said. "But that would be nice, too."
Rodriguez, 37, clashed with Yankees GM Brian Cashman just last week after a tweet in which A-Rod said he had been cleared to play by Dr. Bryan Kelly, a surgeon who performed the hip surgery but who is not on the Yankees' payroll.
"You know what, when the Yankees want to announce something, (we will)," Cashman told ESPN New York. "Alex should just shut the (bleep) up. That's it. I'm going to call Alex now."
Rodriguez said Monday things have been patched up.
"It's all been very positive," he said in Tampa. "We're all looking in the same direction … get back to New York as soon as possible and (Tuesday) is the first big step."
Rodriguez has hit 647 home runs — fifth on the all-time list – over 19 major league seasons.
But he is among players tied to a Major League Baseball investigation of Anthony Bosch and his Biogenesis lab, which has been accused of giving performance-enhancing drugs to players.
That was coming off a rocky postseason in which the Yankees pinch-hit for Rodriguez, and team officials said they were aware that Rodriguez sought a female fan's phone number in the midst of an American League Championship Series loss to the Detroit Tigers.