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Yep, Ajinca has never gone off on other teams. Nope. Fans of contending teams just need to suck it up that this sort of thing happens sometimes.
By my count 4 of those points came when the game was out of reach (4 FT in final 2 mins). Didn't have the same impact as he did tonight or any other game vs Clippers.
What makes me mad is how they didn't have some of their decent players tonight. EG, Roberts. Main thing that bugs me about the loss, besides CP's struggles.
I have no clue who you're talking about from some other forum, but I'm not bringing any "act" anywhere. Take a look at the last three games and then try to tell me we've played well lately. We played like absolute garbage against the Bucks and Pistons but those teams managed to suck worse than us so we still won. That still doesn't mean we played well in those games. We played like **** again tonight and got beat - and we're lucky the final score was even as close as it was. Now we have four tough road games coming up, and this team has been mediocre on the road all season. If you can't see the potential problems arising here, I can't help you.
Yeah not to mention that New Orleans blew out the Heat the other day. So obviously the Heat are first round fodder at best... IF they even make the playoffs.
That Is right, we blew NO out of the gym the last 2 games and this should have been chalked in as a W but since Denver we seem to have been on a small decline, seriously even Milwaukee gave us a good run for our money last game at home. To be honest I have yet to see the consistent 'Defense' that we apparently pride ourselves on, it seems the majority of our wins this season is from outscoring the opposition as opposed to 'holding' them to a points total less than ours. We don't win many games when we don't score at least 100pts.
Look I can take losses. I can't take losses that are due to not playing hard. If your goal is a championship and it's a realistic one for your talent level that should NEVER be the reason you lost. Showing up like you don't care if you win is ALWAYS inexcusable. It's incredibly ignorant to box "true fans" into being optimistic or carefree with losses.. and to label those who get pissed about losses as lesser fans. We've discussed this time and time again. You can look at things how you want, just don't tell me how I need to look at it. I see the big picture here that many fail to see until it's too late. Which is the picture of Houston now being 1 game back, when we just had a 3 game lead the other day. By the end of this trip it's not out of the question that we could fall back to the 4 seed, rather than catching OKC at 2 which were just a half game ahead of us last week.
Do you know that in NBA history something really bad like only 4 teams have won a championship that weren't a top 2 or 3 seed? Teams at the 4 and under seed pretty much never win the NBA title. So the team should be having more urgency vs bad teams, especially severely short ones.
Give me a break. It is so obvious that you are BlueJaysClippers ****. Exact same expressions (who else says "sunshine pumping") and same annoying act of proclaiming the team is done when they lose to a bad team. Jeez, get over yourself. Every team has bad losses. Like I said, New Orleans just beat the world champion Heat badly.
Stop baiting and personally attacking people. I'm giving you a first official warning. I suspect you're Grillinap and remember you can always be IP matched for confirmation and re-banned easily, so it would be wise to change your approach. Your posting style of baiting and insulting other people is against the forum rules.
I am not that guy, you can check if you want. I do have another account that I forget the name to though. I suppose I am annoyed because this guy trolled my regular forum and completely ruined it with his negativity. Seriously, it is a dead zone now.
On topic, why do people assume that when teams lose games they are expected to win it is because they aren't trying or taking the win for granted? Sometimes the other team is just better that night. It's not like Paul tried to miss every shot... He had a bad game. It happens. Move on and get the next one.
I think this year we have to take his injuries into account for some of the stretches. Also straight up FG% is a hard measure because he has poor shooting games where he makes it up at the line.
Lastly, consistency is always relative to comparison. Once every 7 games is something like 12 games in an 82 game season, that doesn't really sound so bad now does it?
Can we compare his consistency to the master of consistency Lebron or to Durant? Remember, while CP is considered the third highest impact player by a lot of people, we all also understand that there's a decent gap after #1 and #2 and that CP is in contest with the a Harden's and Curry's not Lebron and Durant who are really in an echelon of their own.
With that said, I do agree that his scoring consistency is quite all over the place, though of course he also isn't necessarily limited to impact through scoring. I'll look at the comparison for his three years and see if there's a pattern.
Games with 40% FG or under:
11-12 - 18/60 (30%)
12-13 - 23/70 (33%)
13-14 - 19/53 (36%)
Games under .510 TS%:
11-12 - 20/60 (33%)
12-13 - 22/70 (31%)
13-14 - 23/53 (43%)
In terms of straight up FG%, no, but when we look at TS%, it's a different story. If we look at since he came back from injury (19 games), he's had a TS% .510 or below in 9/19 games, so almost every other game, though he would still be at 14/34 (41%) and higher than previous seasons before the injury, but it has certainly been worse.
...and of course I can't limit effectiveness in a game to TS% as there are other factors! but just for a basic look, not meant so specifically be comprehensive as to whether they were good or bad games overall.
How often does LeBron shoot 0-12 in any game, let alone against a short-handed lottery team? I know Paul George has had a few of those terrible shooting nights, but he's a fringe top-10 player at best, if that, whereas CP3 is hyped up to be near LeBron/Durant's level.
"Sunshine pumping" is a pretty common phrase, especially among college sports fans for some reason. Nobody is proclaiming that the team is done, just that there are some very troubling signs with this team recently. Yes, New Orleans beat the Heat, and I'm sure over on the Heat boards, fans expressed concern just like we're doing.
It's you who needs to get over yourself. I try to be as fair as possible with my judgement of this team, but fair does not mean completely ignoring anything even remotely negative about the team. Believe it or not, not everyone is going to have the same opinion as you.
Repped. As always appreciate the input and effort you put into your posts. Thanks for finding the figures. So basically my suspicions seem accurate in terms of purely shooting consistency? In his defense.. I think his D and passing are better this year than previous two years.... but I can't find a reason for the shooting issues. Mainly because his first two years he missed games with multiple injuries as well (at least year two more so) and it doesn't hold him back so much. I'd understand if all the bad games were post shoulder injury, but many were before that and he just had his best 3 game scoring stretch of the year before tonight.
I'm going to bed.
After the 63 pt game LeBron had a whole week of terrible games and the Heat lost a bunch. That's even worse and it happens to the best of them.
Point is, if you hold the Clippers to such high standards that you panic whenever they lose a game they are supposed to win, you will never ever be happy. No team in the NBA has ever had a season without bad losses.
No ones stock is close to those players. Paul makes $18.7M. Hill and George after his extension will combine for $23.8M or $6M more, so you can't even do that.
Harden and Beverly, well good luck with that, and similarly DeRozan and Lowry, but to each his own.
You're downplaying the frequency of letdown games, that's the issue here. The Clippers are barely a .500 road team and have lost more games to lotto teams than any other "contender" last I saw. When we lose to other contenders like San Antonio was doing most of the year it's understandable. You're losing to teams of similar caliber. When you're losing to far inferior teams, it's hard to come up with the why and how. Usually the only answer is lack of effort and focus.
Stop comparing the Clippers to the Heat please. The Heat are back to back champs, 3 straight finals appearances in.. and are clearly bored/complacent which even the Bulls players and coaches have alluded to happening when you win so much. Not only that but every year the Heat prove they have a playoff switch. The Clippers haven't EARNED that right or PROVEN they have that switch yet, so it's a bad comparison.
ps:memphis losing to Jazz and they "must" win to stay with it.
You're missing the point. It's not just one loss that I'm reacting to. It's a number of factors - the loss, the stretch of sub-par play that in all honesty dates back to after the Golden State game but has mostly been masked by wins against bad teams, the fact that we're on a long road trip with a mediocre road record this year and just dropped the most winnable game of them all, and the fact that our lead for the 3rd seed has shrunk to one game and we play Houston on Saturday. If it was just one random bad loss, I'd be fine, but the context around it worries me. Now, there's always a chance that this team pulls their heads out of their asses after this, and I sincerely hope they do so. I just have my doubts that it will happen.
I suppose, but too many people here act like so-called "scrubs" only go off against the Clippers, and not any other team. Even if he really only does go off against the Clippers, so what? It's the Clippers job to still win, and the fans should stop griping about this sort of thing happening, especially since it does no good for anyone.
I would love to know by what measure you are judging this team then. The Clippers have the second bets point differential in the league(behind the Spurs who have to be the title favorites right now). This is generally the best predictor of future success and shows that they are playing good basketball. Yes we've had a few bad losses but so has EVERY SINGLE TEAM! For the most part we've blown out teams we are supposed to blow out, beaten the teams we're supposed to beat, and split to the top teams. The Clippers are bot the favorites but we are most certainly in the short list of contenders. Tonight changes nothing at all. That's what I don't get about you guys who panic on losses ... It's just a fact of life in this league.
You're missing his point. It's the 2 losses to inferior teams combined with squeaking by two bad teams at home. So it's 4 bad games in a row, not just one bad loss. Maybe you should expand your thinking to a more "big picture" approach some time and focus less on the micro. It's a feel for the momentum of the team, not a reaction to one game.
Just finished watching the game. Obviously, a multitude of things caused the loss. Chris Paul 2 points, didn't even make one FG in 12 tries- that's just crazy. The poor free throw shooting really hurt as well, specifically DJ 0 for 4, and Blake missing more than usual. Then there were the killer turnovers that lead to transition baskets & 3's by the Pelicans. Oh & who the heck, please, is Darius Miller? He had no business scoring 16 points (including some clutch shots down the stretch).
You add up all those things, even a hot 3 point shooting night can't save you. Bench play, BTW, was shaky once again. Big Baby is simply too short to go up against a guy like Ajinca. This was probably a game where either Big Baby or Turkoglu had to sit in favor of Hollins, but Doc did no such adjustment. I was also surprised that there wasn't more ball pressure & trapping in the backcourt against the Pelicans who were playing basically without a point guard.
Well, not much time to mull over the defeat- gotta bounce back and get a big win in Houston tomorrow.
But I'm not downplaying anything. I would venture that the Clippers have less bad losses than every team except the Spurs and OKC. Certainly they have less than the Heat.
Also, I would much rather have bad losses than losses to good teams. The 3-0 against Houston is HUGE. Same with Dallas, OKC, etc. we won't play the Cavs, Bobcats, or Pelicans in the playoffs but there is a damn good chance we'll see Houston or OKC.
Certainly the Clippers aren't playing as well as they were during the winning streak but if they did that all year they would be the best offensive and defensive team in the NBA and would have a double digit point differential. Just not realistic. Anyone who follows the league knows there are going to be lulls. I don't expect the Spurs to run the table from here even though they look unstoppable atm.
The NBA season is long enough that by now we know the team. And the Clippers are damn good and one loss (or a few so so games in a row) doesn't change that. The key at this point is to stay healthy going into the playoffs. If that is the case, I don't care if we are 2, 3, or 4 because we will be a handful.
Call it sunshine pumping if you want.
The one thing I didn't like was the lineup to start the fourth where we onlyreally had Crawford for offense and Collison was getting abused by Evans. It took an 8-0 run for Doc to call a timeout. Maybe that is Popovich logic but I would have liked to see him be a bit more proactive there since that unit stunk.
I hate being a second round team
Since the Golden State game, we...
trailed by 10 to the Jazz at one point
nearly blew a 21-point lead to Cleveland by giving up a 12-0 late-game run
lost to Denver (this one was understandable)
blew 13-point and 11-point leads to Detroit
only beat the Bucks - the worst team in the league - by 8, while letting them hang around all game, even getting as close as within 2 points
lost to New Orleans with CP3 completely vanishing
Even in the wins, we have looked shaky at best against teams we should have beaten with ease.
Now here's some other facts to consider...
New Orleans is a lottery team and was missing six players tonight... and we STILL lost
We play Dallas tomorrow, and we're under .500 on the second night of a B2B
We play four tough road games against good teams now, NOLA was our most winnable game of the trip
We're only two games over .500 on the road
We only lead Houston by one game and play them on Saturday
I can't explain any clearer why I'm concerned about this team right now - hopefully this will do.
Yeah I was hoping for a timeout earlier, or the starters to come back earlier, but didn't happen until more the 7 or 6 minute mark if I remember right.
^^^ Add in the fact that we need the 2 seed so we don't play GSW in the first round and have homecourt in the second round against okc cause that is the only way we beat them. If we stay in the 3rd will probably beat the warriors in 7 and lose to okc in 5 or 6. Another wasted season.
I think as a simple exercise you should look at every contending team and see that they all have similar situations, except for maybe the Spurs who are just robots. What I keep trying to stress to you is that the Clippers are in the upper echelon and that is illustrated by all advanced metrics as well as the obvious point differential. They also have one of the easier remaining schedules among the west contenders. I'm sure we will lose a few more games, but so will everyone else. So don't freak out if the worst happens and we lose again or even let Houston pass us, because these other teams are going to have bad losses of their own too.
Yep exactly. I think that sequence is really what cost the Clipps the win. The entire game was catchup ball after that point and that takes a toll on players.
Warriors and the Okc would be a perfect bracket for us. Warriors and their clown coach don't scare me at all and okc is a good matchup for us. Worst would be grizzlies then spurs.
I go back and forth on the Warriors. The prospect of Curry and/or Klay heating up is pretty scary, but as you've mentioned, they're a poorly coached team in addition to being dysfunctional. They also get away with a lot of cheapshotting and overall dirty tactics just like Memphis. I actually like our chances against OKC if this team can pull their heads out of their asses. Brooks is a poor coach and Westbrook never plays well in LA. They're also pretty soft, so they're not likely to play as dirty as Memphis/GSW. If we make it past them, though, I don't see any way we beat the Spurs in the WCF, they're our worst possible matchup.
Exactly. Look at the Heat and Indiana. I was through two Lakers runs, a total of six Finals, and the regular season was INFURIATING. Blowing big leads, losing to bum teams -- but the Championship teams save it for the playoffs. They have superstars -- like CP3 and BG -- who have another gear to switch into.
The concern isn't the Clippers -- it will be the refs who will change the outcome of some games and you gotta hope they don't have it in for Los Angeles. (Yes, the LOS ANGELES Clippers, the team from my home town). They gave the Celtics their Championship and handed the Heat their first against Dallas on a phantom call on DWade. (He wasn;t even touched. Youtube it.) And they bend the rules for LeBron with regularity.
So, if you want to worry. Worry about the refs. The team will be fine.
BTW I spoke to the Alien Commander. The Spurs are their R777 Robotic Basketball Prototype which they are testing on Earth.
Grillinap how about you let people post how they want as long as it's within forum rules and go your own way about it? The idea that one method of venting, expressing opinions or showing loyalty is right, is very small minded. You've shown very little reasoning ability based on the fact that you repeatedly bring up the same things of little relevance to this forum. Talk about the content being discussed and worry less about trying to manage personalities.
Ideally the Spurs are blowing their wad now and will hit a lull come playoffs. The dream (and very possible) bracket has the playing memphis and then houston, or maybe Dallas/houston (dirk always plays the spurs tough). If they can be taken out and we can get by okc, finals is a lock.
it's interesting though the perception can be guided by the narration, but I agree to an extent that the team hasn't played its best lately. On the other hand I don't really think we can project too much from this or start to say this team can't win in the playoffs because of this stretch, it is a short sighted view for us to do that. That's where I jump off that bus.
The Lakers were a proven commodity. Despite the frustration... you knew deep inside, they find a way to get there. Maybe not to win it all... but at least to be a finals mainstay. All this team has proven historically is that it has a habit of shooting itself in the ass. So you cannot expect Clippers fans to have the same peace of mind. Overall long term, I love the big picture. Two stars, lots of talent, great coach, great front office... but short term that doesn't put me at ease. Because as a long time NBA fan I've learned how cruel the NBA is. How quickly a title window can be shortened to 0. How quickly one severe injury can alter the course of your franchise. The fans/team should not take ANYTHING for granted. The attitude has to be to win now at all costs.
Is it just me or is our defense NOT getting any better? And would someone explain to me why Doc is so bent on having Hedo play over Hollins?
2 words... "Stretch Four"
I'm so irritated by this loss. Very unsettling
Start playing Hollins or sign a big man to a ten day deal. The going small with the bench has failed. Granger needs to start despite the bad game.
Lol at the overreaction from one game
Blake Griffin is the clippers and no doubt a better player than Cp3. About 4 games a season chris paul is a complete no show, blake on the other hand never really takes a game completely off. Not hating on chris, but it has been evident in his brief playoff career.
Absolutely correct. And with the refs, sometimes a newcomer to the dance has to be FAR better than the opposition to win it all. Like Dallas was a few years ago. Nothing in the NBA is a given.
the average freethrow shooting is the norm for this team, the deal was losed with CPs 2pts, you would expect 50% shooting for him so that is at least 12pts from 12 shots which makes this game an easy win but instead a 2pt lose.
Problem with our bench right now is other than DC and Jamal are lacking impact players, guys that can come in and make crucial plays when needed, hedo and baby are just too passive, I'm hoping Granger can really step it up and be a consistent contributor, I have said this in another thread, this team should benefit better as a whole if Granger starts and Barnes off the bench
All good teams have bad losses
E.G. When we sucked and beat teams like the heat, Celtics, lakers, blazers, etc.
I'm not worried, we barely lost to a team that is in a roll, with our superstar going 0-124036, whatever I can live with that.
All we gotta do now is bounce back with a good win at Dallas, I'm sure Cp3 will be focus and ready to go.
Thank you!! Hollins needs to stop being picked on the way people do haha he's not bad for just a role player 6 foul guy, he's out there to bug the opposing bigs, catch lobs, rebound, and bring passion. You need players like that on your team


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Well I don't know what to expect really. If we can get some movement in our offense and get to normal level of shot percentages would should win.
The Wizards played last night and it went into OT so they could be tired.
^ I don't either. Playing an inferior team again so it will be tough to win. The scary part is the stat of them being 4-1 after playing the night before. PLEASE no 3 point brick-a-thon
I think we win tonight after such an embarrassment last game. CP and Blake will play well and maybe the shooters will even make a few shots.
Scary game- these guys can bomb from deep. Unfortunately, the Clippers can't seem to right now to match. So if the guys don't get a bunch of layups & don't defend well, it could get ugly.
Any one knows the timetables for Barnes and Bullock?
Best PG in the league going up against the second best, this games gonna be a good one.
If we do good defensively will win this game.
Mmmm...Stephen Curry and Tony Parker?
This should be a fun game
Wiz lost in OT on the road last night. They'll be tired in the 4th. We got this.
Don't say that
I was just laughing at how bad we are that given the reasons the Dude gave we still can't count on a win. man I hope we win tonight.
If it's any consolation, as good as we were last year, we also lost to Cleveland (but at home), at Atlanta and at Brooklyn. So these losses don't seem to be that far removed from last season. Hopefully, we win tonight and find our way soon.
Hope we get the W tonight...the Wiz will be an tough team
Willie Green gets yanked from the starting lineup and now Jamal gets the start! Will wasn't even shooting 30% so I can understand why the move was made! Opinions?
Jamal should have started all along once JJ was hurt
This team will only truly contend when we start challenging our best players for more. I know jamal is defensively challenged but he is a vet and one of our best players. You put him out there and challenge him that we need him on BOTH ends until we get healthy.
Good we need to switch something up! I don't like this .500 basketball
Clippers -4. The way the team is playing a lost won't be unexpected, but I'll hope for a win.
This team needs to come out of the gate firing on all 8,I like the move,worth a shot. Willie is a good backup and proved his worth last year,but we need to get out of the doldrums.
When their road trip started you can go back to the first game and see I said we would go 3-4. I want to be wrong so badly.
I hope with Jamal starting this game, it'll be the spark to ignite their offense. Hoping for a win, but bracing for a loss to avoid further disappointment.
Tech already lmao!
Dudley coming out aggressive after tweeting that he has been playing like sh*t
There we go Jared!
Team looking good so far
I love our offense right now.
Nothing Jamal could do there
Good start so far. I hope it continues.
Dudley is hot after those tweets haha! Keep it up!
Jared Dudley off to a great start. Perhaps all he needed was his Twitter confession to blow off the pressure, lol.
Ain't no damn flagrant!
OMG Dumb ass, your a 7 footer foul him going up for the shot. this the second time this year he does that scrap
But honestly that wasn't even that serious. When JJ got INJURED by demarcus was that a flgrant?
no it wasn't serious at all but still, damn
Some times blake over dribbles
Fouled the crap outta blake. Jan Vesely did it intentionally too....
I like this go into Griffin first option from the offense.
Stak is still a little bit rusty but I believe that 6 or 7 games from now he'll be moving better.
Man I want Stephen Jackson to score!
Great rotations! wow
Willie really can't shoot off screens. He needs to stay stationary and then shoot
Heat check Dudley!
CP beats the shot clock!
Chris Paul is playing well. I like!
Team looks much better today. Ball is moving and shooters are making their shots.
Good job Doc for speeding up the offense by starting Jamal
Yup that was a good move by Doc Rivers putting Jamal into the starting lineup. Willie seems to be feeling too much pressure w/ the starters. Also it helps to finally get some good contribution from Dudley.
Great block by Blake, who then sprints the other way for a layup- nice find Dudley!
It is helpful. Our offense depends on guys making shots, moving the ball.
Offense looks so much more open and fluid today- Paul to Jordan slam dunk!

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The problem is dudley IMO. The guy is a complete liability on defense.
Jamal is playing fine.
So, you didn't watch the game against Miami huh? Dudley covered Lebron really well to where TNT commentators were actually mentioning it. And this is with a knee injury. Jamal sure couldn't cover Lebron healthy or not. Be patient in casting one of our ELITE shooters aside. Wait until he's healed up before you begin thinking he's a problem.
yeah i did watch the game, and i watched dudley get consistently burned by james. In fact, James scored mainly when dudley was guarding him. I don't give a **** if he's an elite shooter, the clippers don't need another elite shooter. They need a lock down perimeter defender, and that is not what dudley is.
Wow, simmer down. Maybe you should burn one Chonkyfire while you watch the game one more time. James scored most of his only 18 points against Willie Green. Is Barnes not a good enough perimeter defender for you now?
no barnes is fine and i garuantee you dudley will not be apart of the play off rotation.
He must be really banged up because the advanced metrics say he is having a stunningly bad year. 115 defensive rating with -.1 defensive win shares... but hey at least he's shooting 39% from 3 and the clippers are winning, oh wait they are .500.
Nobody is disputing that Dudley doesn't look like himself right now. He was much better in the Phoenix games I watched last year, probably because he was healthy. I'm saying wait until he is healthy before labeling him a bad player. Assuming he does regain his form, he will definitely be in our playoff rotation. Barnes has played terribly so far this season, but he was hurt so we give him a pass since we all know he can play. The same should apply for Dudley after eight years in the league.
he wasn't that good last year, he pretty mediocre when i watched him. It's not like the suns were good last year or anything... I wasnt crazy about the trade when it happened because he isn't an upgrade over butler. Afflalo was the guy to try and flip bledsoe for but I'm not sure that deal was ever really on the table.
If dudley's tendinitis is the reason for his poor defense thus far, then maybe he should take a few games off. I'd rather at least give bullock a look and see if there is anything there than have a 60% dudley playing.
Matt barnes being hurt is really hurting the clippers at the moment.. hopefully he is well soon.
edit: dudley has played six seasons, not eight.
I agree that having Barnes out has caused real problems for our SF rotation. Doc said the other day that he would sit Dudley if he could, implying that he doesn't have close to enough confidence in Reggie unfortunately.
For half as much money as Caron, Dudley is younger, a better passer, and a better shooter. I loved that trade.
Dudley numbers (advanced and basic) we're as good if not better then Afflalo's and one of the most important numbers was his contract which is a better bang for the buck.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... mp;y2=2014
Dudley is definitely a upgrade (again as the numbers show) from Butler.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... mp;y2=2013
http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players/co ... eason=2012
Dudley was very good last season for a role player, especially in modeling how to still play the right way on a bad team.
he has a nice offensive game, but if you are going to be objective and give him a grade on both sides of the ball, the reality is that he's a subpar defender. He consistently gets beat by players that are more athletic than him. I recognize his ability to score the ball, but the clippers need a lock down perimeter defender than can shoot 3's. This is why when the playoffs come dudley will eventually be weened out of the rotation IMO.
jamal isn't a good defensive player, you're correct. But you have to at least admit that he's giving a lot more effort on defense vs last year. It's honestly a night and day difference.
His defense is above average mainly because your impact as a defender isn't only your man to man defense in isolation. Nick Young is a good example of a guy who is actually very decent in man to man isolation defense but is a bad overall defender.
Of course Dudley would only be weaned out of the rotation if we had this theoretical 3/lock down D guy to replace him, but you know...
Did you watch the game tonight? At what point in the game did you get the impression that dudley is an "above average defender"? I watched Parsons literally having his way with him every time they were on the floor together.
dudley is slow and a below average rebounder. He's also technically undersized because he's only 6'6 with an average wing span.
He isn't healthy. If you watched him on the Suns he was a competent defender but right now he is playing hurt. He has to because Barnes is injured. He wasn't even supposed to play during the Heat game and Bullock played really poorly in the minutes he played.
He doesn't get it.
yeah he has tendinitis, i get it, but I don't understand why that's an excuse tbh with you.
How isn't it an excuse? He is so banged up he shouldn't even be playing atm but he has to play since the only other option is a rookie who hasn't played well at all.
Why are you taking a 7 game sample size when a player is banged up and ignoring his entire career? That is like saying BG is an average player since he played poorly against the Griz in the playoffs since he was banged up.
If you ever played BB with tendinitis in the knee you would.
Because it's tendintis? It's minor injury.
Depending on how bad the tendinitis is, lol.
Why are you taking a 7 game sample size when a player is banged up and ignoring his entire career? That is like saying BG is an average player since he played poorly against the Griz in the playoffs since he was banged up.
I am accounting for his entire career. He's never been a good defender.
What % of the NFL do you suppose is going to play tomorrow with tendinitis and multiple other injuries? 50%? Sorry, but it's not an excuse.
Based on what exactly?
Apparently for you it isn't. Again, ever play competitive BB (HS/College) with tendinitis in one or both knees??
an average of 1.15 defensive win shares per year and and average 110 defensive rating over his career. That's below average.
i played basketball in high school with osgood schlatter's and played football/baseball with tendintis in my elbow on multiple occasions.
Not for a wing player it isn't.
On your throwing elbow? How bad was the injures?
One good thing about the NFL is that they have 1 game a week and they have a lot of breaks between plays. That is why despite it being a more physical sport, it is just more palatable to play with certain injuries.
I can play football much more comfortably with certain injuries than I can basketball. I can't tell you the exact physics of it, but the continuous motion in basketball is just irritating to certain injuries.
I have actually had tendinitis (they say we should really call it tendinosis) in my knee and played with it for over a year and it was a really bad decision as it is an ailment that requires rest. I would get sharp pains when planting that technically I could play through, but it ruined my jumpshooting consistency and affected my explosiveness.
Defensive winshares and defensive rating are not good stats in a vacuum.
Unless you want to argue that Boozer and Amare Stoudemire are good defenders. Lots of wing defenders who are considered great defenders have a high defensive rating like Payton or defensive specialists like Bowen.
bruce bowen averaged a 102 defensive rating, much better than dudley's career average.
Defensive rating is actually team dependent, so you can't really look at defensive rating across teams and compare players. Offensive rating is your own offense, but defensive rating is based on your team.
A horrible defender on a great defensive team will have a lower defensive rating than a good defender on a bad defensive team. Dudley played for Suns teams that were poor defensively, so his defensive rating should be high.
Bowen is already an elite defender, but he also played for great Spurs defensive teams and good defensive Miami teams. You can't compare DRTG like that just so you know.
You can compare a players defensive rating to his teams, and how he differs from the team.
Bowen was an elite defender, not average.
You can compare a players defensive rating to his teams, and how he differs from the team.
he was 14th in the suns in defensive rating last season. Yup, good defender alright. 14th on the worst team in the west.
i never said he was average, i said dudley is below average.
What is important isn't defensive rating. Its defensive rating relative to the team's defensive rating that he was playing on. His defensive rating was often a few points higher than the Spurs defensive rating. Does that make him a below average defender? No.
Dudley has played on poor defensive teams his entire career of course his defensive rating is high.
Bowen was 19th. Guess he was a scrub on D and careerwise Bowen was usually on the bottom end of his team in terms of defensive rating.
Its not a great stat by itself.
Have you ever thought that maybe his team's were poor defensively because he's a poor defender himself?
Dudley is an average defender.
Yea, that isn't impressive, but I don't know if you kind of follow the interpretation of the stat.
What we'll see is that for example a teams primary defender on the oppositions best player might have a worse defensive rating because they are generally in the game when the best opposition offensive players are.
The other thing we'll consider is who the player is playing with as your defensive rating will be worse for example if you play a lot with the teams worst defenders.
Defensive RAPM is probably a much better stat to analyze defense than DRTG as DRTG doesn't tell a story, just a final result.
If we look at Dudley's on/off last season, it is a bit contrary to his DRTG.
On: opponents 105.8 Ortg
Off: opponents 111.5 Ortg
Opponents scored MUCH better when he was on the bench and the Suns actually looked like a decent defensive team according to those numbers when he was on.
This pattern was the same in 09-10, 10-11, and 11-12, so a pattern over a couple of seasons obviously is a good thing. The Suns defense was consistently better with Dudley on the court for 4 seasons based on the on/off numbers of the opponents offense.
Yes Dudley is the primary reason why the Suns were a bad defensive team.
You are reaching. Like I said defensive rating isn't a good stat unless you want to tell me Bowen was a poor defender and Amare and Boozer are good defenders.
Thank you I was too lazy to look up the stats myself.
The fact of the matter is there isn't a defensive metric that is completely 100% accurate. You have to use a mixture of eye test and other defensive metrics.
Here is Dudley's defensive RAPM
12/13: 0.1
11/12: -0.1
10/11: -0.1
09/10: 0.2
So what his Drtg on/off might have suggested is that he was playing with the better defenders on the team. Now we look at RAPM and we see a guy hovering right around 0 for 4 straight seasons, and that is basically the exact definition of an average defender.
^Ouch. That's pretty convincing I think...at least for some.
I consider him above average since he often took the tough defensive assignments on the Suns and I don't believe rapm takes that into consideration.
You are reaching. Like I said defensive rating isn't a good stat unless you want to tell me Bowen was a poor defender and Amare and Boozer are good defenders.
it was definitely part of the reason. Just watch dudley exclusively on defense next game, or even just rewatch the game from tonight. He's not a good defender, i'm sorry, and blaming the fact he played for the worst team in the west last season is a poor excuse, because that only reinforces the fact that he is a poor defender.
and who was he guarding last season for the suns? That number is just as arbitrary as defensive rating because if dudley gets to guard shane battier, and paul george has to guard lebron, dudley has a much easier assignment.
when he was guarding lebron on thursday, lebron was driving past him with ease. That's why blake started defending lebron, because dudley was incapable of doing it.
1) He is injured.
2) You clearly haven't watched Dudley if you think he guards scrub players. He often had to take the hardest defensive assignments on the Suns.
3) Yep its really really obvious you didn't watch Dudley play much outside of his 7 Clippers games.... I am done with this. You way too stubborn to admit that Dudley is at least an average defender. Of course he would have a hard time against Lebron with tendinitis. It would be hard to guard him if he was healthy.
he has tendinitis, it's hardly an injury
I've been watching him all season play below average defense.
Again, did you watch him tonight? He was awful. Oh wait, that's right, i forgot, his knees hurt so it doesn't count.
He's not an average defender. He's a below average defensive player with a very nice offensive game. Unfortunately that's not what the clippers need at this point in time.
^Oy vey...and around and around and around we go, lol.
You watched him for 7 games and you clearly know all there is to know about him.
Good night. You loss all of your credibility if you think a 7 game sample size means anything especially if the player is injured.
Last time I checked you never played ball on a pro level with tendinitis nor do you know how serious his tendinitis actually is. Don't compare rec ball to the nba please. I am not going to bother arguing with you anymore since you are already set on what you believe.
No matter what evidence we use contrary to your belief nothing will change. Just a pointless circular argument.
Dudley is STILL PLAYING and he isn't making any EXCUSES for his play. He didn't even mention his tendonitis all this time. Doc did. You're incorrigible Chonkey.


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http://www.nba.com/clippers/video/2013/ ... p4-3014458
Answered a ton of good questions, 8 minute interview just about. Well worth the watch. Enjoy.
Great interview thanks for posting
JJ is the furthest away from being healthy.
Your welcome CB. Yea JJ being furthest away sucks. He's the guy we need to integrate the most. Barnes isn't a guy you really need to integrate and Bullock is a rookie so we can take our time at least a little bit more with him.
Yep, Doc gives good...interviews, lol. I like the part when someone (a lady reporter) asked him if he could trust DJ in the 4th quarter and he said yes. Then she preceded to say he didm't play that much in the 4th quarter and he replied...I wasn't here last year (with a smile in his eyes).
He doesn't seem concerned about the shots Mullens is taking either. I wonder if he's trying positive reinforcement.
^ It very well may be. But I'm thinking since its still preseason, he letting it all play out and then deciding what works and what doesn't before the real season approaches.
I'm sure JJ is fine. According to Doc Redick says he can play. But Doc seems to want to hold off on him.
I really think that the shots Mullens is taking are good shots for our overall offense. They're all open & bigs are gonna start coming out more & more. And he makes roughly a third of them because they're so open, I think 1 point per possession is fine, especially if it spreads the floor for Collison & Crawford to drive!
Almost all of the threes were open and within the flow of the offense. We just missed. Not to worry
Jamison was off too but it will come. Can Mullins post up?
It could be. I don't want Mullens to stop shooting three completely, but simply to incorporate some shots in the paint and some dunks. I think during the game against Sacramento he took 18 total shots, and 12 of those were 3 pointers. This all accounted for his low shooting %.
If he were to just cut down on the amount of 3 pointers he could probably be more efficient.
Yea I agree. 5-7 threes isn't too terrible if coaches want him to shoot but 2-12 from three and 18 shots overall is unacceptable on all levels for a backup big pretty much, even if he's starting. Blake Griffin shoots 14 shots per game to give you an example of how much that is.
When news started circulating that we were interested in Mullens I was shocked at the fact that he took many threes. Its rare to find big men that shoot like he does. Even though his % is low he still would be more successful at 3s than many other bigs. That being said even though he's a decent shooter for a big man his shooting % is low compared to players in all positions.
I think the lowering of three point attempts to 5 per game is perfect. Also, we need him to incorporate other shots like tear drops, dunks, layups, and others just so defenses won't lock down the perimeter when our second unit is on the court. By adding an inside element to his game Mullens will help make it difficult for defenses to shut down the second unit, because as of now if I'm the coach of another team I tell my guys to guard the perimeter because Mullens, Jamison, and the second unit lack an inside presence.
I'd guess there won't be many moments in close games where EITHER Blake or DJ isn't on the court. Doc has talked about the necessity for small-ball lineups, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Blake play some 5 this year with Barnes defending the opposing PF. Then Mullens or Jamison can stretch the defense while DJ mans the interior.
I doubt we'll see two backup bigs on the floor together very often unless it's against lesser teams.
I wonder if we'll seen CP3, JJ and Jamal on the court at the same time. All three of those guys are used to being on the court in the 4th.
Seems like that is essentially what he was saying, he's letting guys shoot if it is in spots that they can shoot from and later on he will address what is an open shot vs contested shot. So he will probably reign Mullen in with that part of his shot selection, but not the spots.
Let's be honest though, we'd rather see Mullens shooting three's than long two's that he hits at a lower percentage and mid-range two's that he doesn't hit that well. If he's popping to 20 feet instead of three, he's a worse player. Of course the one we'd like to see more of is him rolling to the basket. Last year only 18% of his shots were at the rim, he needs to get that back up to his 30% at the rim in 11-12, then convert the majority of his long two's into three point shots, and his value as a role playing stretch big will start to climb up.
I know, easier said than done, but I think he's capable, hopefully.
Last season eFG%:
10-16 - 35.4%
16-23 - 31.5%
Even if we're just doing regular percentages, he shot 31.7% from 3PT. There's probably no reason in his mind for him to aim to shoot the mid-range jumpshot. He's not a primary scorer for the team, and if he can't get shots at his best spots (at the rim or 3PT), then he should be passing to a better player really. That's how you become an effective role player.
To the other point about the bench being shut down, you would actually think the bench has a bit of an advantage because while many teams can guard one perimeter big, not a lot of teams have two big men comfortable with guarding the three point line. So a lineup with Mullens and Jamison should open up the lane for Collison, Crawford and let's not forget that Barnes will be back.
Theoretically, both the opposing bigs are now hanging out on the perimeter, that's gold for anyone who wants to slash, cut, or get to the basket.
We have to also take into account that on the bench, Crawford is the #1 option, Collison #2, and then the other guys are all third options, so the versatility of a guy like Mullen's offense isn't really that important as long as he plays the role demanded of him well.
Mullen's isn't so successful with a lot of the in between game, so him complimenting Crawford and Collison as opposed to trying to make his game any sort of focus is more important. In an average game the bench is only going to be in together as a whole unit for at most the equivalent of a quarter's worth of minutes. After that, any bench player that get's more is playing with starters and they become even more specialized in that setting.
...and like Voyeur said, in close games, and in the playoffs, this isn't likely an issue as one of Blake and/or DJ will be one the floor for most of the game anyways.
Good points. Lets hope Doc also feels the same
Byron Mullen has gone 12-for-33 from 3-point range (36.4 percent) why are we complaining so much? He had one off-night, lets give it some more time!
^ That's a very good point.
36% is the same as our first-choice SG shot from deep last year in his 22 games... and better than the 35% "Mr. Bigshot" managed in the playoffs.
I'm cool with Mully shooting 3's if he's open. It's not like he's going to be playing starters' minutes.


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I don't get the hype people like Grantland's writers have for "The Flying Lion" being a nickname. Nicknames should be short, simple, and sum up the playstyle and values of the player. To me, Flight 32 has always been the perfect nickname for Griffin. Short, sweet, and it captures his high flying style. How about the rest of you?
(Also, "The Slim Reaper" is an awful nickname for Durant, and I have no idea why sports writers keep on trying to force it on everyone else. He'll always be the "Durantula" to me).
I think his given name is distinctive enough. If a good one came up I'd go with it but the ones on the vote are all a bit so, so.
Must see BG?
Quake Griffin?
Well I have to say this is one topic I would not have thought of,but for me it is BG32 because if you do the math BG32+CP3= The greatest show in LA and perhaps the USA.
I've liked "Blake Superior". It just seems fitting with the way he's been playing.
I thought Flight 32 would take off (lol), but it didn't. I like Flyin' Lion. If this moniker sticks, what would be the tag line? "Because he roars and soars!"?
Karl Malone's The Postman tag line "Because he always delivers." is quite catchy. Blake needs something similar.
Fights like a lion, flies like an eagle... if it wasn't Blake's actual name, we'd all be congratulating the guy who came up with the nickname "Griffin".
I thought the same thing but unfortunately after seeing it on YouTube, it sounds like Mike Smith was the one that threw in, "The Flying Lion!"
The Vanilla Gorilla
Quake Griffin
Blake the Ripper
Pretty much. He'd just wind up being compared to a griffin anyway.
I guess when it comes down to it, sometimes I just call him BG.
Happy birthday to him by the way.
Flight 32 sounds the best, flying lion is significant to his name but flight 32 just flows
I've always liked flight 32 and that's what I refer to him the most
The Gym Reaper - Knockoff of KD's nickname that he doesn't even want
The Hound - Badass from Game of Thrones
L.A. Capone - Blake's a gangster
Rust - He never sleeps and keeps growing whether you like it or not
Red Bull - Sponsored by Redbull and he's ginger
yeah flight 32 is easily my favorite too
BlakeZilla or beastmode
Flying Lion is the perfect nickname for Blake
This is not mine; someone else here used it. But "The Blake Show" works for me. Maybe Blake "Show" Griffin???
Going off of your second suggestion - Earthquake Blake? Relevant not only because every time he slams he creates a magnitudinal force, but because he plays in LA, a place prone to earthquakes. I'd choose 'Flying Lion' over that one though... even though I laughed the first time I heard it, it's grown on me.
Personally, I prefer "Flight 32," but the "Flyin' Lion" doesn't sound too bad either.
Flying Lion sounds great! especially after a huge dunk!
I have a tee that says King Kong on the back
The Red Lobster!
"Shake & Blake"
"the griffin-ator"
Because he scores inside and outside and his specialty is a double-double... animal style.
I remember the commentator for the Minnesota Timberwolves referring to Blake Griffin as "The Brahma Bull". Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson used to go by the same name back in his WWF heyday
I would totally rep this nickname if I had the points to do so. :\
I still think Flying Lion or "The Flyin' Lion" is too long to be a nickname. Plus, while it does fit Griffin, it doesn't flow all that well off the tongue.
As today, with Phil officially leaving the Lakers, this is my first day here as a SUPPORTER. (As I said, I cannot be called a Clippers "fan" yet. That has to be earned. I guess I am closer to a bandwagoner than a "fan.")
But maybe I can earn my stripes with a nickname for BG that works...TA DA!!!!!....
It rhymes, it describes his skill set and, I think, works.
Your thoughts?
My favorite BG nicknames are: Flying Lion
And Vanilla Gorilla lol
And he is a Southern California icon! love it, my new favorite nickname!
Welcome to Clipper Life bro, but I'm not sure you understand rhyming
Thanks for the welcome. I was wondering if the Clippers fans would call me a bandwagoner and reject me big time. Hopefully I was wrong.
But whatever, I am looking forward to seeing some GREAT basketball tonite. And to watch "The Magician" work (hey, I can hype my nickname...LOL). Tonight will be great fun; after suffering with thoroughly bad basketball, Lob City will make my night. I want Blake to go for twenty again (dunno what the record is) because I think (my OPINION) Blake is more exciting than LeBron. (Did LeBron ever jump over a car?)
Remember one thing. I do not yet deserve to be called a Clippers "fan." That would be disrespectful to those long suffering Clippers fan. I am just a "supporter."
That aside...
LOS ANGELES (my home town) Clippers, NBA CHAMPIONS!!!
I love the In-n-out nickname. I love it because In-n-out dominates 5 Guys and Blake does the same thing against 5 Guys every night.
Even though it's suppose to be a two man team plus an intern, I like Griffin Force because of the stupid commercials
that inn-n-out nickname is actually pretty cool haha
I like what Reggie Miller calls him, "Bad News Blake."
Y'all like "The Mailman...he delivers." Great nickname.
How about "The Magician...Opponents Disappear." Or something like that.
When I saw a college tape of BG pre-draft, he looked like a beast. Maybe Blake "The Beast" Griffin?
Third try... Michael Jordan was simply MJ. Well BG, just BJ, might be the best nickname of all.
Hey, I gave it my best!
anyone else seen the new BG logo he's been rocking on his shoes? check out the tongue of his st pattys day jordans
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I like Bad News Blake and Flight 32
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I started calling him the "Ginger Gangster" after that confrontation with Mario Chalmers a few seasons ago.
I like the way they've turned the letters into wings but the 'b', if it is a b looks like an 'a' or something?
With all his highlights, I wonder why the media hasn't officially gave Blake a nickname.
Nicknames are funny things. They either stick or they don't, its a natural process. Blake Griffin is an unusual (the Griffin part) yet easy/quick to say name anyway, so he doesn't need one so much.
There have been some good suggestions in this thread but I haven't really 'felt' any of them and that's kinda how nicknames work imo.
If he kills in the post season like he's been doing all year, we're going to have to find something to call him! lol
Flight 32!
It might be more likely that we'll get a nickname for DJ before BG lol
Of course I can't share some of the nicknames I had for him last week when he saw us coming down to autograph alley and ran from us like we had the plague. If I shared many of them they would look like **** ******** ***** ************.
BTW, I should note that I tried to put an "Other" option in the poll for people who don't use any of those names, but for some reason, it didn't show up. Is there a limit of 5 poll options or something?


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The last three Ohio U games have been absolutely devastating losses for me. First, last Friday they were -3.5, thier star player DJ Cooper, who happens to be 75% from the line, goes 0-4 on FT's in the last :30 and they win by 3!
Then, the next night vs Akron they are -1.5, They are up by 3 in the closing seconds, so they foul to not let Akron get a 3 pointer attempt. The kid for Akron makes the first one, and then tries to miss the second one on purpose so they can get try to get a put back, but it clanks high off the back of the rim and goes in! Then Akron fouls Cooper with 1.0 left, and he misses both free throws, Ohio wins by 1!! Cooper 0-3 from the line in the last :30 in this game.
Last night, i decide I'm not touching the side in their game and I took the over 126. it's 63-60 with 4:12 left to play, got it chalked up as a rather easy win...but hold on, both teams combine to go 0-11 from the field the rest of the game, amazingly no fouls are called until there is :07 left in the game, two Ohio ft's finish the scoring, 65-60 final!
Jesus. Thats sucks man.
How about last night? I came out on the right side of this one, for once.
Oregon/Washington-5: Oregon shoots an air ball that gets put back in because Washington has no reason to foul. Final 90-86
Many years ago, I had the Providence Friars +3.5 at home against Georgetown. Providence was down by one point with 3 seconds to go and they're about to inbound the ball near center court. I can't lose, right? Wrong! The man inbounding the ball is having trouble finding an open Friar so he calls a timeout but naturally they're out of timeouts. Georgetown makes both technical foul shots, gets fouled after they inbound the ball, their guy makes 1 of 2 with 1 second on the clock, and I lose by half a point.
I haven't bet many Big East games since that horrible beat!
I would like to vent, i probably have 2000 bad/horrible/beats.
i'll go this year on just football. oregon/asu over 68.5. oregon is up 43-7 with 11 minutes left in the 2ND QUARTER. 50 total points and it does not go over. 19 MORE points in 41 minutes??????? and it dont happen
last thursday florida st/vt over under was 49.5. the score was 22-20 with 31 seconds left. fsu is down and in field goal range. THEY SCORE A friggin TOUCHDOWN AND GET THE TWO POINT CONVERSION. total points????? 50. thanks for shooting down my friggin reverse that i would of won
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This species has an extremely large range, and hence does not approach the thresholds for Vulnerable under the range size criterion (Extent of Occurrence <20,000 km2 combined with a declining or fluctuating range size, habitat extent/quality, or population size and a small number of locations or severe fragmentation). The population trend appears to be increasing, and hence the species does not approach the thresholds for Vulnerable under the population trend criterion (>30% decline over ten years or three generations). The population size has not been quantified, but it is not believed to approach the thresholds for Vulnerable under the population size criterion (<10,000 mature individuals with a continuing decline estimated to be >10% in ten years or three generations, or with a specified population structure). For these reasons the species is evaluated as Least Concern.
Taxonomic source(s)
del Hoyo, J.; Collar, N. J.; Christie, D. A.; Elliott, A.; Fishpool, L. D. C. 2014. HBW and BirdLife International Illustrated Checklist of the Birds of the World. Barcelona, Spain and Cambridge UK: Lynx Edicions and BirdLife International.
del Hoyo, J.; Elliott, A.; Sargatal, J. 2001. Handbook of the Birds of the World, vol. 6: Mousebirds to Hornbills. Lynx Edicions, Barcelona, Spain.
Further web sources of information
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Search for photos and videos, and hear sounds of this species from the Internet Bird Collection
Text account compilers
Ekstrom, J., Butchart, S.
IUCN Red List evaluators
Butchart, S., Symes, A.
Recommended citation
BirdLife International (2016) Species factsheet: Colius striatus. Downloaded from http://www.birdlife.org on 29/10/2016. Recommended citation for factsheets for more than one species: BirdLife International (2016) IUCN Red List for birds. Downloaded from http://www.birdlife.org on 29/10/2016.
This information is based upon, and updates, the information published in BirdLife International (2000) Threatened birds of the world. Barcelona and Cambridge, UK: Lynx Edicions and BirdLife International, BirdLife International (2004) Threatened birds of the world 2004 CD-ROM and BirdLife International (2008) Threatened birds of the world 2008 CD-ROM. These sources provide the information for species accounts for the birds on the IUCN Red List.
To provide new information to update this factsheet or to correct any errors, please email BirdLife
To contribute to discussions on the evaluation of the IUCN Red List status of Globally Threatened Birds, please visit BirdLife's Globally Threatened Bird Forums.
|Key facts
|Current IUCN Red List category
|Least Concern
|Coliidae (Mousebirds)
|Species name author
|Gmelin, 1789
|Population size
|Unknown mature individuals
|Population trend
|Distribution size (breeding/resident)
|7,960,000 km2
|Country endemic?
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A: I'd probably grab my football that Coach Spurrier gave me at our first football game after I was named athletic director, a win at Vanderbilt. He gave me a game ball, and I was honestly just overwhelmed. I have my World Series rings over there, and I'd probably try to grab at least one of those, too.
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Some people believe the Mayan calendar predicts the end of the world this coming Dec. 21. For fanatics of products such as Twinkies, Ding Dongs and Ho Hos, the apocalypse already is here with the immediate closure of Hostess Cakes Inc.
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She said once the store sells out of Hostess products, there won�t be any more.
Not all customers were hunting Twinkies; Hackler said one woman came in Saturday morning looking for Ding Dongs.
By about 11:30 a.m. Saturday, the shelves where the Ding Dongs and Twinkies had been just hours before were occupied by Little Debbie products.
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Hostess blamed the closure and liquidation on a continuing conflict with the bakers� union. The company was seeking to substantially reduce wages and benefits, as it had successfully negotiated with the drivers� union.
However, management missteps and a declining market share also led to financial problems, according to market sources. Part of the problem was lower demand for such unhealthy, fattening snacks, as well as the inability of Hostess to get younger consumers on the Hostess bandwagon, business analysts said in published reports.
In addition to the iconic brands listed above, Hostess also was responsible for Dolly Madison cakes and pastries, Nature�s Pride breads, Ho Hos and a number of well-known regional brands.
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In 1978, Dan White, a young, conservative San Francisco city supervisor, shot and killed the first openly gay city official, Harvey Milk, and progressive mayor, George Moscone.
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Students at Rice University in Texas did a number of experiments with Twinkies in 1995. Among these were rapid oxidation (burning, radiation (microwaving), a gravity check and solubility (water absorption).
The students followed standard scientific testing procedures, using two Twinkies for each experiment. One was a control Twinkie (which they ate after each experiment), and one was the test Twinkie (which they would have had to been awfully drunk to eat).
The surprising results of these experiments can be viewed at www.twinkiesproject.com.
For those who find any commercial substitute completely unacceptable, both the Food Network and other sources offer make-it-yourself Twinkie recipes.
If people just cannot wait for another company to buy Hostess or to make their own, there�s always eBay.


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