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ACAPULCO, Mexico — Mexico's government said 58 people were missing after a massive landslide smashed through a tiny coffee-growing village deep in the country's southern mountains, where fresh waves of rain threatened more danger for rescue workers trying to evacuate the last residents from the isolated hamlet on Thursday.
The same storm that devastated Acapulco and surrounding areas over the weekend regenerated into Hurricane Manuel and made landfall again on Thursday, this time farther north in the state of Sinaloa.
Sinaloa civil protection authorities said some areas were already flooding and more than 200 people were evacuated from small fishing villages on the coast.
The U.S. National Hurricane Center said the Category 1 hurricane had maximum sustained winds of 75 mph and it was centered about 95 miles southeast of Los Mochis. It is a third blow to a country still reeling from the one-two punch of Manuel's first landfall and Hurricane Ingrid on Mexico's eastern coast.
Hundreds of stranded tourists remained lined up for a second day on Thursday at an air base on the outskirts of Acapulco, where military aircraft were slowly ferrying people out of the resort, which was cut off by road from the rest of the country by dozens of landslides and washed-out bridges.
So isolated is Acapulco that cargo ships have been contracted to supply food to the city by sea. Only about 10,000 of the estimated 40,000 stranded tourists have been flown out since the improvised air lift began two days ago.
Increasingly angry, frustrated travelers – many of whom had to wait through the night on the roadside – began to block army trucks heading into the base with what the stranded travelers believed were wealthy, well-connected people or foreigners cutting line to get on airplanes without waiting. The angry crowds forced the trucks to detour a few blocks along the beach to get to the base.
"The problem is that they didn't get in line like all the rest, who spent the night out in the open, hungry," said Blanca Flores, 24, a call center supervisor from Mexico City.
Federal officials raised the death toll from the passage of Manuel and Hurricane Ingrid from 60 to 80 earlier on Wednesday.
They said they were not yet including landslide victims in the village of La Pintada, several hours north of Acapulco, but "It's very likely that these 58 missing people lost their lives," said Angel Aguirre, governor of storm-battered Guerrero state.
Heavy rains also began pelting the state of Guerrero again Wednesday night, increasing the risk for federal police trying to evacuate the last 45 residents of the village of La Pintada, where tons of dirt and rocks smashed through the center of town Monday night, burying a church and a number of two-story homes.
Federal authorities reached La Pintada by helicopter and evacuated 334 people, some of whom are hurt, one seriously, said Interior Minister Miguel Angel Osorio Chong.
Osorio Chong said the landslide went right through the middle of the village of some 600 people, accessible in normal conditions by winding mountain roads now broken multiple times by landslides and flooding.
In Acapulco, three days of Biblical rain and leaden skies evaporated into broiling late-summer sunshine that roasted thousands of furious tourists trying vainly to escape the city, and hundreds of thousands of residents returning to homes devastated by reeking tides of brown floodwater.
The depth of the destruction wreaked by Manuel, which first hit Mexico on Sunday as a tropical storm, was highlighted when the transportation secretary said it would be Friday at the earliest before authorities could clear and reconnect the parallel highways that connect this bayside resort to the rest of the world.
Hundreds of residents of Acapulco's poor outlying areas slogged through waist-high water to pound on the closed shutters of a looted Costco, desperate for food, drinking water and other basics.
Many paused and fished in the murky waters for anything of value piling waterlogged clothing and empty aluminum cans into plastic bags.
"If we can't work, we have to come and get something to eat," said 60-year-old fisherman Anastasio Barrera, as he stood with his wife outside the store.
With a tropical disturbance over the Yucatan Peninsula headed toward Mexico's soggy Gulf coast, the country could face another double hit as it struggles to restore services and evacuate those stranded by flooding from Manuel and Ingrid, which hit the Gulf coast.
Mexico's federal Civil Protection coordinator, Luis Felipe Puente, said 35,000 homes were damaged or destroyed.
Elsewhere in the verdant coastal countryside of Guerrero, people turned motorboats into improvised ferries, shuttling passengers, boxes of fruit and jugs of water across rivers that surged and ripped bridges from their foundations over the weekend.
In Acapulco's upscale Diamond Zone, the military commandeered a commercial center for tourists trying to get onto one of the military or commercial flights that remained the only way out of the city. Thousands lined up outside the mall's locked gates, begging for a seat on a military seat or demanding that airline Aeromexico honor a previously purchased ticket.
"We don't even have money left to buy water," said Tayde Sanchez Morales, a retired electric company worker from the city of Puebla. "The hotel threw us out and we're going to stay here and sleep here until they throw us out of here."
Mexican officials said that more than 10,000 people had been flown out of the city on about 100 flights by Wednesday evening, just part of the 40,000 to 60,000 tourists estimated to be stranded in the city.
A lucky few held up ransacked beach umbrellas against the sun. Temperatures were in the mid-80s but felt far hotter. Dozens of others collapsed in some of the few spots of shade.
"Forty-eight hours without electricity, no running water and now we can't get home," said Catalina Clave, 46, who works at the Mexico City stock exchange.
AP Photo/NOAA This image provided by NOAA shows Hurricane Manuel taken at 3:45 a.m. EDT on Thursday. The U.S. National Hurricane Center said Manuel was a Category 1 hurricane hugging Mexico's coast early on Thursday and expected to produce 75 mph winds and between 5 and 10 inches of rain over the state of Sinaloa.×
AP Photo/Bernandino Hernandez People stand on rooftops in a flooded neighborhood after Tropical Storm Manuel pounded Acapulco, Mexico, on Tuesday. The death toll rose to 47 on Tuesday from the unusual one-two punch of a tropical storm and a hurricane, hitting Mexico at nearly the same time. Authorities scrambled to get help into, and stranded tourists out of, the cutoff resort city.×
AP Photo/Bernandino Hernandez A child lies with his dog at a shelter set up for people affected by Tropical Storm Manuel in the city of Acapulco, Mexico, on Tuesday. The death toll rose to 47 on Tuesday from the unusual one-two punch of a tropical storm and a hurricane hitting Mexico at nearly the same time. Authorities scrambled to get help into, and stranded tourists out of, the cutoff resort city.×
AP Photo/Bernandino Hernandez A low income neighborhood is covered by floodwaters caused by Tropical Storm Manuel in Acapulco, Mexico, on Tuesday. The death toll rose to 47 on Tuesday from the unusual one-two punch of a tropical storm and a hurricane hitting Mexico at nearly the same time. Authorities scrambled to get help into, and stranded tourists out of, the cutoff resort city of Acapulco.×


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Nicely located apartment with 2 large bedrooms. Big and clean swimmingpool outside to share with the other in the complex. Never crowded. Clean and practical apartment. There were quite a few mosqitoes in July, som should be good to bring mosqitonet to put on the terrace doors to be able to ventilate during the night. No airconditioner installed but night temp. at about 19 degrees C. so ok. You should rent a car to get around/down to the center and beaches. Beautiful scenery.
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I've enjoyed my stay in Stintino for the sea, the nature, the landscape, but, for a short stay of 4 days, too many thing that didn't work out with the house.
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It was wasn't a Christmas gift in the traditional sense of the word, there was nothing to unwrap, for this was a gift of information.
To most people the information hastily scribbled on the back of an envelope would seem insignificant, even if they knew what it was they probably wouldn't get excited about it, but I could instantly see that the information would help solve one of the long-standing mysteries in my family tree.
The information consisted of four names and addresses from an old address book, revealing where my grandmother's "adopted" sister Minnie had lived in Hampshire after she had married. Minnie's full name and background had remained a mystery for years and without my grandmother to ask it seemed unlikely that it was going to be discovered any time soon, but all that changed this Christmas.
The week before Christmas I had been given the surname COLLINS, this in itself was a major breakthrough and given time might have enabled me to find out Minnie's identity, but the extra information made that discovery a certainty. Within a couple of days I had begun to unravel the intriguing story of Minnie and her parents, establishing her relationship to my grandmother and raising no end of questions about their lives.
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My free time has been filled with thoughts of little else as I put together plans to visit record offices, trying to work out where else I can find out information that is going to add to this story and gathering together all the information so far in preparation for making contact with a possible descendant of Minnie.
It is hard to put into words the impact of those few words, it reaches far beyond just the story of Minnie because I can now see the branches of my family tree starting to come to life again and urging me to explore them once more. Probably the best gift I could have wished for.


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Some politicians and law-enforcement officials have proposed fighting fire with fire � arming school teachers and administrators with concealed weapons as a way to slowdown or stop a gunman.
The idea is strongly opposed by local school officials.
�Our teachers have a large enough responsibility of delivering quality instruction to ensure that every student masters Colorado state standards,� said Daniel Snowberger, superintendant of Durango School District 9-R. �The last thing I need is for our teachers to have one more responsibility on their plate. They have full plates.�
Instead, he advocates strong partnerships between school officials and law enforcement. Periodic visits by deputies and school-resource officers are a more sensible approach than arming teachers, he said.
�Let�s get the people who are trained and can respond in a situation like this to be in our schools,� Snowberger said.
La Plata County Sheriff Duke Schirard supports arming teachers.
So does Undersheriff David Griggs. If teachers and administrators volunteered to go through a concealed-weapon course and a combat course � �kind of what we do� � it could slow down a shooter or reverse the rising trend in school shootings, he said.
But Durango Police Chief Jim Spratlen said arming teachers could be dangerous.
Law-enforcement officers are highly trained to recognize the �good guys from the bad guys,� he said. He worries that a teacher could accidentally shoot a police officer who is wearing plain clothes.
�If we were to show up in plain clothes into a situation where there�s an active gunman in a school, we would be really worried that there might be a teacher out there seeing us with a gun and wouldn�t recognize a badge or a gun,� Spratlen said. �It could get very convoluted. It could become very dangerous.
�There would have to be a very high level of training.�
Rocco Fushetto, superintendent of Ignacio School District, said: �We are educators, we are not security guards.�
The Dolores County School District, north of Cortez, last month voted to allow the Dove Creek High School principal and district superintendent to carry firearms onto school grounds. They must complete a concealed-carry course, obtain a permit from the Dolores County Sheriff�s Office and satisfy additional training qualifications.
They will receive $1 more per year to satisfy a legal requirement in their contracts for taking on the added responsibility as security guards.
School officials said it was necessary to arm the principal and superintendant because of the school�s remoteness and how long it could take for law enforcement to respond.
Talk of arming school officials began well before the Dec. 14, 2013, shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn., they said.
The Mancos Marshal�s Office also has been kicking around the idea of allowing school staff members to carry concealed weapons. The idea was discussed in Archuleta County and later rejected in favor of creating a school-resource officer program, which puts certified police officers in schools to relate with students and teach classes about good life-choices.
While learning from a national tragedy is beneficial, it also is important not to overreact, said Kathy Morris, the safe-school coordinator for the San Juan Board of Cooperative Educational Services, which helps nine school districts in Southwest Colorado with safety-related issues.
�There�s a little bit of knee-jerk reaction going on by some folks, not all of them,� she said. �It�s a natural instinct to initially overreact.�
She said: �We cannot continue to make decisions in fear. There are never any good outcomes to decisions made when there�s the mindset of fear.�
Colorado has 178 school districts, and only 13 have armed security guards employed by the schools, a number that doesn�t include school-resource officers, she said.
A study has found about 80 percent of concealed-weapon carriers are ineffective and dangerous, she said. The reason is a lack of training.
�We as educators have never ever had to be first responders,� Morris said. �All of us now are left with the challenge of being first responders, and it has been an uphill climb.�
Teachers and students need to think more critically about reacting to threats rather than sitting in a room and becoming a victim, Morris said.
Undersheriff Griggs said school shooters don�t want a confrontation � that�s why they�re at a school. But teachers, custodians and parents can fend for themselves, even if they don�t have a gun.
�Just because you don�t have a gun and they do doesn�t mean you can�t pick up something and hit them in the head with it,� Griggs said. �It doesn�t have to be in a school � it can be in a Walmart, it can be anywhere. Don�t be a victim.�


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The UNC Asheville Department of Athletics and its student-athletics contributed more than 2,000 hours of community service during the 2012-13 school year and hope to do even more next year.
Every team contributed during the year with the athletic department staff contributing time and energy to various projects.
"Our student-athletes really enjoy their community service projects," stated Rebecca Nelms Keil, Director of Student-Athlete Services and Affairs. "It really helps develop the entire student-athlete, because you learn when you serve other people. These projects also help our student-athletes make personal connections to our community."
The entire athletic department worked on several projects last year, including Move-In 2012 when more than 50 student-athletes, coaches and staff members helping moved freshmen into their residence hall last August.
In September, more than 40 student-athletes from different teams helped out with the Asheville Citizen-Times half-marathon. The student-athletes directed traffic, handed out water and cheered on the participants in the 5K race.
There was also Boofest 2012 when every team and athletic department staff member hosted a community event around Halloween for children to come to the Sherrill Center and play games. Each team came up with its own game and gave prizes to the winners. Everyone dressed in Halloween costumes.
From October until the end of the school year, student-athletes collected more than 1,000 pounds of canned foods for Manna Food Bank.
The sports of men's and women's soccer, volleyball and women's basketball all hosted Breast Cancer Awareness Games in which they collected funds. Each team wore pink in their respective contests to show their support for finding a cure for breast cancer.
The Student-Athlete Advisory Committee (SAAC) collected toys for Christmas for children beginning after Thanksgiving. This was done for the I Have a Dream Foundation in Asheville.
In April, 12 student-athletes along with Rocky helped the Cane Creek Middle school with their Fun Run to promote health and wellness.
Individual teams stepped up with some impressive projects throughout the year. The baseball team raised more than $14,000 for the Coaches vs. Cancer Foundation in the fight against childhood cancer. They also shaved their heads after their game with Western Carolina at McCormick Field to show support.
The volleyball team ran skills sessions for students at Eliada Homes and then spent three hours participating in the National Girls and Women in Sports Day.
Women's basketball hosted "Rocky's Readers" with elementary schools in Asheville City and Buncombe County. The program consisted for Bulldog players and coaches going to schools and encouraging student to read books over the Christmas break. The team also hosted several clinics at Eliada Homes.
The women's swimming team also helped out with the "Rocky's Readers" program. In April, the team and coach offered free swimming lesson to all One Card holders for one hour Monday through Thursday.
Asheville's cross country and track and field teams helped host the WNC Cross Country Carnival in the fall. They then participated in the Girls on the Run eight-week program that helped promote physical fitness through running.
Both tennis teams hosted Play Days for the community in both January and May. They also raised more than $2000 by selling old tennis balls. The proceeds went to the Brother Wolf Animal Rescue organization.


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Lisa Phenix's first CD is bluesy rock in the style of Bonnie Raitt and others. However, Phenix's tone is more upbeat. Songs such as "Silly Little Mama" and "Lazy Daisy May" burst with enthusiasm to the point of goofiness. It has plenty of guitar solos and lyrical themes like searching for a good man and loving chcoloate. Lisa's musical influences touch upon folk, blues, and jazz. Lisa is one of the top singers in the Sacramento, CA area and I've had the pleasure of participating in a birthday party she put on for my daughter - with grace and talent she had 8 girls singing and dancing and moving around! I am pleased to offer Lisa's CD for sale. While she loves to introduce children to music, her CD is really meant for adults - children will enjoy it too. Her CD is what I listen to night after night while I sew bean bags and make toys. After hearing it several hundred times (really!) I still love it. It would be a great gift for an adult - especially a woman - who enjoys a variety of styles of music. Don't head out on a car trip this summer without it! Give it a try and remember, you are always welcome to return my CDs if you don't like them.
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does anyone have a copy (.pdf) of this article about the planing thresholds of different setups? if not, is there a link to a back issues page for surf magazine so i could purchase a copy of the article?
is surf a windsurfing magazine or a surfing magazine? this is an article that all the windsurf magazines should have tested on years ago .
thanks for the help
|16th April 2010 08:10 AM
|I think they introduced this shape in 2010/09 so I guess it's still quite new. I don't know how much cheaper Naish boards are than SBs but they certainly don't seem to undergo as much R&D as SB... or maybe that's just because SBs marketing is insane, not really sure.
|16th April 2010 06:03 AM
|Thank you Ken. Now I know it wasn't another make I was wondering about.
|16th April 2010 03:46 AM
OK, here's the deal - I haven't been on a big freeride board for about 8 years. With ample wind, my iSonic 111, Formula 160 and HiFly Move all get on plane quickly and accelerate very fast with a clean water release. My last freeride board was a Techno 283 and it planed up nicely as well.
What I found in the short time I was on the 2008 Naish Freewide 130 was NOTHING like my past experiences on my boards when it comes to planing and accelerating. It just felt like it was stuck to the water.
Others may have a different opinion, but this is what I found.
|15th April 2010 03:41 PM
Ken. I think that when you state what you claim to be fact rather than just opinion (your original post) you ought to name names.After all, if the fault has been rectified on this years model but the older ones are still being bought second hand, people have a right to know .
Presumably the board was tested by some magazine or other at the time. couldn't you at least point us in that direction? We ought to be able to read between the lines if the test has any credibility, otherwise what is the point of testing!
|15th April 2010 02:08 AM
I am not ready to name the brand, since it looks like the 2010 model may have fixed the problem (from what I could see from the photos on the web site). I guess the board was designed for novice sailors to begin the freeride experience, but if it won't plane without a ton of power, then what a blunder.
I guess it is incumbent upon the buyer to know something about board design before buying, but in this case, most novice or intermediate sailors probably would not notice the soft rails or be aware of the impact.
It's also hard to believe that a major company with years of experience would design something like this, but to keep all of this in perspective, this is just my opinion and others could disagree. Therefore, I think it's best to not identify the brand.
|14th April 2010 10:43 PM
|Bigger board and bigger sail, must have been a pretty s*** build/design. Would be interesting to know the brand in order to stay away from it...
|14th April 2010 08:59 PM
Another issue impacting planing that became exceptionally clear yesterday - I was out on my iS 111 and a Maui Sails TR-4 7.6 in light conditions. A friend was on his new (I think it was an '08 or '09) 130 liter freeride board (unnamed, not Starboard) with a 8.0 Retro and was having considerable trouble getting it to plane. I am sailing by at 25 knots and he couldn't plane even with pumping.
I couldn't believe he was having that much trouble since he was an experienced sailor so I took it out for a test ride. I had the same problem, it was a "dog" and I never got it to break loose and plane flat and fast on the surface. The nose was high and the tail low with too much drag. Mast track all the way forward.
Then after closer inspection to see what was happening, I assumed that it was the VERY soft rails running all the way to the tail. The board just couldn't break away and plane with a clean release of the water, it just wrapped around the rails, holding it down.
The board was wide, light, plenty of volume, but what a piece of crap. I went to the companies web site and from what I could tell, the new model of the board has much sharper rails.
|14th April 2010 12:46 AM
It of course depends on where you sail.
When Surf tested FreeRace sails (like Gaastra GTX) in the size 8.5 they found that the Glide 7.5 did have more low end (both planing and speed), but on the other hand it had less top end (both speed and control).
The conclusion was that the Glide 7.5 is an excellent sail in places with light and stable wind, like where winds are thermal. In places with gusty and variable wind the Glide was thought to be too much of a wrestling match.
But it does prove an intersting point, there is not a single truth when it comes to sail size!
If the Glide 7.5 has more power than a freeride 8.5, then a Glide 8.5 has to be VERY powerful. It would be fun to try it...
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Hey guys. I spent quite some time on this letter. I wanted to run it by you guys before I send it to the NBA. I don't know if it will reach the intended party, but I thought I would share it:
Commissioner Adam Silver,
I'm sure that you are a very busy man, and while I don't expect a response I just hope that one day this letter may make it to your desk. Like many other fans I have enjoyed watching the NBA over the course of 13 years now, and I have taken pride in watching history happen. I have witnessed the rise of young players like Blake Griffin, Stephen Curry, and Damian Lillard, and I am now witnessing the twilight of other greats like Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan, and Kevin Garnett. I began watching the NBA in 2001, and saw it rise from a league popular only in America to a growing global phenomenon.
The growth and impact of the sport has even extended beyond the court. The NBA has proven time and again that not only is it dedicated to providing its viewers with quality entertainment but also in giving back to the community. This commitment is evident by the NBA's promotion and participation in important social issues such as education, youth and family development, and health and wellness.
Still, I believe that the NBA is not just a form or recreation and entertainment. I believe that the NBA provides a welcome refuge from the realities and injustices that occur not just within our communities, but throughout the world. The basketball court appears to be one of the arenas where many ideals of the human dream can be realized. One ideal that I speak of is unity, where for 48 minutes men of different creeds, color, and religion work in harmony to obtain a goal. In these 48 minutes we escape the realities that many of us have to return to.
April 25, 2014 will be a dark day in NBA history. This day will go down in infamy and remind us that the worst of human behavior, racism, continues to spill over into our refuge. The moment I speak of is the now widely heard audio of Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald T. Sterling making his racist views known to Ms. V. Stiviano.
As a Clippers fan of over 13 years I have taken a great deal of emotional investment in my team. Perhaps the notions of the American dream are rooted deeply in my psyche. These dreams are fueled no doubt by romantic myths that penniless immigrants could turn hard work into a fortune and happiness. Some of us cannot change our personal lives, but our sports teams offer us a chance to escape and live this dream. They are, in the case of Clippers fans, a symbol and refection of us.
After an atrocious history the Clippers became a symbol of rebirth. They held promise that sometimes the pauper can become the prince. They reminded their fans that years of loyalty are rewarded. And Despite boasts of the roars in Oracle arena or Chesapeake Energy Arena no fans can compare to the dedication that Clippers fans have demonstrated by their unwavering support of the organization in the worst of times.
Yet, despite how far we have come it appears to unravel by the horrible deeds of one man, Donald T.Sterling. Commissioner Silver, I applaud your decision to allow due process to run its course. However, I encourage you to seek transfer of ownership of the Clippers from Donald T. Sterling to someone that better embodies the values and worldviews of the league. As we speak many NBA greats have already voiced their repulsion and anger towards Donald T. Sterlings remarks. Even the Clippers players themselves have shown signs of protest.
This has already proven to be a distraction, and I can safely say that it has trickled into the minds of the players. At this point I believe that the racist remarks by Donald T. Sterling have caused irreparable harm to the Clippers, and I would not be surprised if the 2-1 lead the Clippers hold over the Golden State Warriors evaporates into a 2-4 series loss due to the humiliation and anger that the players are enduring.
Quietly, many Clippers fans have already predicted the damage to be to such an extent that they don't view hope for the remainder of this season. I cannot blame them for their sense of defeat. Others are vocal that these racist remarks by Mr. Sterling will force many future players to refuse to play for this organization. Yet, something must be done to resolve this matter. Commissioner Silver, I know this is not a simple matter that has been placed at your feet, so I don't expect a simple or quick solution. However, I believe that years down the road this event, and how you responded to it, will greatly characterize your time as commissioner of the NBA and how people perceive you. On behalf of many Clippers fans I hope that you lobby aggressively for Mr. Sterling to relinquish ownership. I hope that you are successful in this task, and I hope that we Clippers fans may once again believe that change is possible....because as of now we are in doubt.
A Clippers Fan
Tl:dr and neither will the commissioner.
Go for it, man. Even if he never sees it, taking some form of action and expressing your feelings will probably make you feel a little better.
Might be better to arrange it into paragraphs for readability, and maybe run it through spellcheck - I caught one typo in there, but I forget where it is.
Let us know if you get a response.
Go Clips!
submit it to the league and other social media outlets.
After reviewing feedback I will decide on whether or not to submit it to the LA Times and Commissioner Silver
Great letter man! Even if he may not read it, us Clippers fans and maybe other outlet will hopefully see that perspective of us longtime fans. People are too quick to judge and forget the loser of it which is us and the brand of basketball.
Nice letter PageC4! It was definitely well put and I've made it a front page blog .
Thank you David. These are dark times. I decided to forward a copy of my letter to Bill Plaschke and NBA.com....I hope it reaches the Commissioner.
Great letter! Being a long time fan also, I agree with everything you wrote. I hope it makes it to the commissioner and also other media outlets.
That 3rd paragraph where you explain why Clips fans root for this team is gold. I always knew fans of the Clippers were the most uniquely dedicated in the entire NBA. Not only do we choose to root for the underdog, we do so against decades of losing, in spite of a deplorable owner, and in a major city where we are constantly overshadowed and insulted by the historically more successful franchise. No other fans carry the burden that we choose to when we root hard for our team.
Great letter pageC4. It's a nice reminder as to why I chose to root for this team, and why I think Clips fans are the best.
Very well put. I think that there is something to be said about our unwavering loyalty. And it seems as if it is yet again going to be tested during these times.
Go ahead page send it.
if you want you can mail your letter. Adam Silver c/o NBA League Office 645 fifth ave. 19th floor new york, NY 10022 you may or may not get an answer. I wrote them on a different topic. I got an answer but in a month time.
Great idea but people don't write letters anymore. There should be an e-mail campaign and if done right Silver will get MILLIONS of emails. If I had a clue I would start it BUT---. The e-mails won't be only from BBall fans. It will go world wide from anyone who hates racism. Threaten to boycott any company that sponsors LAC at all and give a list. Maybe boycott all NBA sponsors.
Getting people pissed off at this ogre by posting his past deeds and publishing that he likes his GF screwing black guys should do it.
It takes four words
"get rid of Sterling"
Great letter! Probably best to have an email campaign or Twitter blitzkrieg to reach as many people as soon as possible. Wouldn't hurt to email a copy of your awesome letter to all journalists too.
Props to PageC4. A great, well written letter.
Thanks for the feedback guys. I think what has happened as a result from the Sterling comments have affected us in many ways. Racism and race relations have now spilled over into our form of entertainment. Also, if you guys pay close attention this is even beginning to split the fan base. I sent it to Bill Plaschke and NBA.com. and will most likely send a written copy to Mr. Silver (thanks for the address realbull).
My wife summed up the feeling very well. She said that it almost feels like a break up with a spouse or girlfriend. That feeling where you are in the present physically, but cannot focus on tasks because your mind is on the dilemma you are dealing with. At one point my wife looked at me and said "you want to cry, don't you?" I really did want to but glad I stayed composed. Commissioner Silvers statement will be huge today. I hope its good news for our team and fans


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Great presentation
(April 16 2013!)
Just catching up
Thank you Max!
All classes are good! Good memory refresher!
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Thanks Max.
thanks, max.
I learned the most from class 4. would have like to see a software programming fpga course.
Thank you
Enjoyed all the lectures.My best is obviously is this one though i'm gonna start working on FPGA.
I enjoyed all the classes. Eye opening.
I especially liked the discussion of the circuit board manufacure
I'd say all four are all equally benifical
Picking up the last days lecture
Wasn't able to attend the live presentation. Listened to the archived audio today... great presentation as always. Thanks Max!
Thanks Max. Highly technical lecture.This week session was very informative
Had a meeting during the live session so watching the archive. I found programmable logic the most valuable. I would like to see a whole week session going into it in more detail.
Thanks to Rich, Design News and Digikey for bringing these fantastic classes.
Thank you Max for a great series of classes!
Yes, I can relate to you Max. I used to work with, 3 computes & 4 monitors(big ones) around me.
I found Programmable Devices class most useful.
Can't believe Max's classes are coming to an ens.
ICL? Now you did bring back some memories -- Istarted at slides 4, 5 and 6... (those types) doing math processor and comm processor design. And yes... dealing with ICL codes and all that stuf...
An explanation for FR4 is here:
It has morphed over the years
@Rich, I really enjoyed part III, Chips and Packages.
Thnaks again MAX.
@Max: Perhaps in your short history of everything such as phones and cameras, you could include a day on cars (focusing on control systems and the transition to electronics there).
Looking forward for more lectures by Max...
@Rich - thank you for the logistics!
very interesting material
@MAX: On the ANALOG COMPUTER. Some of the participants may call me crazy, but I ventuyre to say, that there is still a reason to use analog computers. Picture this scenario, where the engineer in charge of power generation research, is studying some fancy self-adaptive control system for a group of scatteredsychronous machines. The straight control solution today, no doubt will be digital. However, between sampling times of the A/D & D/A conversions, the synbc. generators are in "open loop" and therefore lprone to instability and/or deviation from the reference signals. In my master thesis, I used the digital computer to do all the fancy controls, but before I plugged it to the actual generation system, I plugged it to the analog computer where the actual process was simulated almost exactly how it is in real life. How would I have done it in this hybrid fashion, if not for the old nanalog Telefunken?
@Rich - which of the 4 classes was most beneficial... equally enjoyed all.
heading off too - thanks again, Max! Really enjoyed it. Planning to fiddle-and-diddle with FPGAs as soon as I get my current work overload off my plate. G'bye all!
Missed the live lecture today... great to have access to the recordings.
Oh I love waffles!
Re: How Computers Work... Don't suppose this would include info regarding home computers? I come from a marketing background, and trying to set up wi-fi at home with my satellite internet service is incomprehensible to me. Can't someone invent easier technology for home set up?!
Max, Rich, Design News, and Digi-Key: Thank you for a very informative week!
Max, I posted a You Tube Video you may want to check out when you have a moment.
Yes -- I hope you all have a WONDERFUL weekend
Thanks onc eagain to joining us and hearing me waffle on like this
Bye all, have a good life. See you next time.
@BruceW - yup! That keeps it fun though...
Max - my wife thinks I talk too much, too. The kids just tell me *Enough*! or walk away while I'm talking... Teenagers...
There's always that one exception.
Would definitely be interested in that type of course week Max.
RE: "How Computers Work" - Yes, a "Rocky's Boots" journey of logic and its explosive expansion into application-driven solutions.
@BruceW - in this case I clearly remember it being crossing - that's what made it so surprising. But you're right 99.999% of the time; crossing ok, parallel not so much...
Great example on the swarm code you where talking about earlier. A real implementation.
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@Alan "But then again, I'd listen to you (and your stories) even if you were just reading the dictionary"
I wish my wife felt the same way -- sad to relate, she feels that she is the only one who has anything worth saying (grin)
Max - history is fun, but I'd prefer lessons to expand my knowledge. Yesterday's FPGA was a super intro, and all the web sites help to get going with it. Would love to do more with it - build something step-by-step through the week.
But then again, I'd listen to you (and your stories) even if you were just reading the dictionary... :)
I still like the idea of doing a "How Computers Work" type week -- where we start off with an AND gate and work ourt way through designing a simple 8-bit processor ...
Ah yes, party lines and waiting for the line to open.
AJW - crossing is okay, parallel hurts
@Kenti -- we would end up talking about all sapects, like handhelds, exchanges, VoIP, ... everything to do with phones -- from where they started to waht it was like having shared (party) lines to the stuff we have today...
@bmatts - ah... at least I had a sensible idea... :) I remember hearing about some board having a problem that turned out to be two traces crossing each other on opposite sides of the board. (probably 2 layer boards - this was back in mid-70s) They had to lay it out so they didn't cross. If I remember right, it had something to do with radar (?) - high RF frequencies. RF is all black magic to me...
Thanks Max, Great 5-days!
This was a great refresher week! Seems that you could digress and expound for a follow on course week. CPLD and loading OS and networking, would be great! Thank you and let us know what you have coming up next. Bobs your Uncle and Fannie your Aunt! Take care!
. . . and maybe a day on robotics and CAD - the shift from all mechanical to mostly electrical
But I don;t know if Digi Key would be interested in that
@Max - Telephone today... do you mean these hand held computer/cameras?
Max, both would be great subjects, phones and television.
Another day on camera technology -- pre and post digital
Another day on the television
... and why am i in this hand basket!
Like do one day on the telephone -- how it evolved from the very beginning to where it is now.
I'm in!
The extra ground plans have been one of the ways I've been solving the problems.
You know what I would really like to do -- a course on where we were and how we got where we are.
Programmable devices for a whole week sounds good to me.
(thinking the ground planes would be between the stuff affecting each other...)
@Max Do designers typically specially in chips, boards or systems exclusively? Thanks for an excellent week of classes.
Thanks to everyone for attending -- also for posting these kind comments (these are what those who don th eundergarments of authority and stride the corridors of power at Digi-Key will be looking at to see whether or not to invite me back :-)
Enjoyed most your sense of wonder at what is truly one of the greatest wonders of human achievement. I am similarly amazed every day at what has been accomplished in electronics and where it is all going - also horrified at how easily it could all come to a sudden stop. Thanks much for your insights and captivating style.
thanks for the sujestion Kentj. I would love to see a full week of programmable devices.
@Zwilrich - Raise of hands! Can you see mine?
question - would extra ground planes be an answer to bmatt's problem? or am I totally out to lunch?
A weeks course in Programmable Devices would be a good addition to the curriculum.
Thank you Rich, Max, and all.
@RICH: A question about next module: Debbuging with Linux. I feel a little of a "jump" here on the subject of Linux. I am now studying on a O'Relly textbook, "Building Embedded Linux Systems" and there is so mu to learn about it before we get into the specifics of debugging ... I wonder what I am missing here.
Thanks - I'll save this as a good introduction for all who ask. I'm an advisor for the tech center at the local high school. I'm sure some students in the Engineering, Information Technology, and Digital Audio-Video programs will benefit.
@Zwilrich - I would!
Thanks for the excellent week.
There can be a "board hook" problem in which the board resonates at 200KHz and 20MHz. To get rid of that, the board needs to be routed out between the effected traces.
thanks Max
How many of you would like to see a full week course on Programmable Devices?
@bmatts: Re "Max, I've had some problems with impedances within the boards causing me problems with some of my digital circuits. I would get misshaping of my digital pulses due to impedance within the board. How do I solve this and is their a place where I can get the formulas."
I'm sorry -- I'm up to my ears -- that's beyond an introductory course -- also I don;t make my own boards these days (I'm too busy writing) maybe someone else can sugges t something
Thanks Max and Rich for the great week. As always, it's a fun way to spend lunch time. Happy Friday all.
Thank you Max for one week of tech review.
Excellent refresher series Max, please do more with DK's CEC.
great job.
Max and DigiKey et al:
Thanks for the lectures. Meeting at 3PM EDT..must go
Thanks again.
Enjoyed the whole week of lectures. Max, hopefully Design News will have you back again!
Thanks to everyone for responding to my questions. It really does help us shape future classes.
Thanks again Max. Have a great weekend.
Great course. looking forward to the next session thank Max.
have a good weekend
thanks again MAX
Thanks for the whole week. I've learnt heaps. It's been great!
thanks Max.
Very informative. Thanks!
Thanks for providing excellent training all week!
Thanks for the whole week Max. Enjoyed everyday.
Chips, boards, systems - do designers typically specialize in one of these only?
R ethe question about Huntsville -- you woudl not believe how big it's grown (we even have our own StarBucks :-)
Thanks, Max, Rich, and Digi-Key! (and I'm very much looking forward to the upcoming Linux week)
components are only available online anymore.
Thanks to all involved.
good talk, thanks
Have fun. Thanks
Excellent, Guys, great presentations. Thank you very much for the info.
Thank you Max for the info!
Regards - Dom Fruges
thank you for the whole week
Great Pres. Hurry back MAX and you live in the best state, I also live in Al. thank you Bill
Thanks for tha all week! Great stuff!
Max, I've had some problems with impedances within the boards causing me problems with some of my digital circuits. I would get misshaping of my digital pulses due to impedance within the board. How do I solve this and is their a place where I can get the formulas.
Thanks Max!
Thank you very much Max. Really enjoyed it...very informative
Enjoyed the entire series, Thanks
Great series, thanks Max!
Yes, thanks to Max, Digi-Key, and Design News for this excellent opportunity to learn. I don't think I can pick a favorite class. Max made it all interesting and informative.
thanks Max and Digikey
Very good lecture seemed like a review of my carrer, I have seen all of this stuff.
Thank for this and the extra bonus infoemation about the mesh and future technokogies. I realy enjoy. Thanks again Manuel
Got history in five days on several centuries encapsukled in inteligebt slides + the witness of IT!
Very interesting series again Max
Thanks to Max, Rich, Digi-Key and Design News
A TERRIFIC ingredient in this week's talks was Max's way of communicating his awe and delight in view of a sense of history.
Sorry I can't get the audio Max but, good slides. Easy to follow.
Max, thank you very much.
One quetion: what package did you use to draw your slides for these webinars ?
Max, God Bless You -- I spent 3.5 years in Huntsville, AL. You must be made of iron! How is the BBQ? I couldn't last down there -- needed a big city for me. I'm back in NJ now since 2004; not great here but I'm open to other cities.
Max thank you for all week lectures, they're great!
Rich thank you for hosting the lectures
Digikey thank you for being the sponsor
Rich, To answer your question, I enjoyed the Part iv Programmable Devices session the best. Today's was also very informative.
Great series Max, thank you.
The entire week was great Thanks alot max all the best.
thank you Max - a great week of presentations and information - look forward to next series
Max: which do you like Verilog or VHDL?
It's been a great week. Thanks Max!
Thanks for the series Max. It was a great refresher course of what I had worked on for the past 55 years.
Exceptional series, Max. Looking forward to reading your books, and your next series of webinars.
Max - I joined late too - sure! start over! (and then we'll find someone else that came in late so you can do the lecture over and over!!! :)
great class Max
hope you teach some more!
I will sign up for all of them
Thanks Max! You Rule!
thank you Max
thanks MAX
Thank you Max and Rich.
Thanks again Max! Great presentation! Thanks for a great week!
thank you Max,
What time on Monday, Max? :)
Thanks Max! Great course!
@richnass - *damn* I'm smart!!! :)
@AlanJayWeiner - He did some in semester 1. Jon Titus did one on microcontrollers too that was pretty good.
this is not related to this sesion, but for your hobby, you may be interested also in some free calculators: http://www2.electronicproducts.com/Engineering_Calculators_and_Tools.aspx
hmmm - from PCB's to Internet of Things - I must have missed the segway
@AlanJayWeiner: you guessed right. The question was which of the four preceding topics did you find most valuable? I got your answer.
I used OrCAD 16 and didn't have too much trouble with it.
I joined late. What did I miss?
@richnass - joined late, so missed today's question. from context, I'm guessing... everything this week has been interesting, FPGAs especially so. Really sorry I joined late today (based on looking at comments... But will listen to archive later...) Would love more sessions on FPGAs. (I love being right down near the hardware; system software, drivers, etc) Would love more Max sessions - about anything!
Eagle is also very inexpensive.
Hmm. 5 million of the world's 7 million?
@all Thanks for the suggestions.
Eagle is a great program. It's easy to use and gives you great boards.
Max -- it looks like something they used at Bentley Park in WWII for intel.
You might look at EAGLE from CadSoft. Lite version is free. Hobbyist version is very cheap (<200USD). Plenty of tutorials out there.
I use Express PCB (4 layers max) and PCB123. Both free downloads. PCB123, though, you have to use their PCB fabricator.
@fwjava - start with this book: Printed circuit board basics for dummies
@bmatts - if you need to start, use something "smarter" than Orcad ...
Any chance on having a session on building circuitboards? From a hobbyist's need-to-know and budget.
Unless I missed something, interestingly you didn't bring up BGA (ball grid arrays). It is perhaps the predominate way that processor chips are attached to boards (particularily laptops). It of course has it's own advantages and disadvantages and complications.
Since today is the last class -- anyone who would like to connect with me on LinkedIn -- contact me on LI through:
Regards - Dom
auto placement, auto routers, auto garbage........
@slk Wow!
@RICH: Today's subject is adding a lot of new knowledge for me. I stopped seeking new learning opportunities on printed circuit board technology for quite some time. Because the quality of Max's slides are so good, plus his clear British accent and clear sentences, makes the whole presentation, top notch opportunity to realy learn this stuff.
Were you using OrCAD?
@Kentj - depends how big is your BGA. My last board I designed, had 26 layers.
gerp124 - plated into the holes/barrels
How does coppoer get into the holes and via's?
BGAs need about 6 layers to get the hundereds of traces out.
Thanks Max - will catch the rest later.
@richnass - would like to see more sessions (or even whole week) on FPGA
I use LPKF Board Maker (Milling Machine). Single or Double sided board for all my R & D board. Laser Version is now availlable.
Thanks Max & Rich. Great stuff! Gotta run.
Power and ground planes provide low-impedance power distribution, more important as clock speed increases.
There are even more copper plans. they are used for EMI reasons
good session max, liked the FPGA one best
Sometimes multiple ground planes for shielding effects
@Max - are the power and ground layer technique still in common use today. seems like a lot of waste of copper
Hello everyone. Got home late so just joining. (hit *every* red light coming home... grrr)
@richnass - I am finding todays session most interesting - however all sessions this week have been great. I look forward to more presentations by Max
"Prepreg" = pre-impregnated = fiberglass pre-impregnated with resin
I liked the sessions and the replay will be helpful for those sessions that are most relevant depending on the project I am working on
Hi all From CA. Coming in late today. Thanks for the classes all week by the way.
@fwjava I use this method all the time and it works great for RF because of the large ground plane.
Here's some of my Manhattan construction - https://sites.google.com/site/on30ng/bitx20build
I found the introduction to FPGA yesterday the most interesting
@richnass: concerning today's question: all of these sessions have been very interesting and helpful. This may have been the most valuable class yet. Thanks to you, Max, and Digi-Key!
Today's Q: All three good reference to give to others just learning.
RE: today's Q. enjoyed all sessions.
we still have several DIPs in our department here
Glue is often used to attach an SMT component to the board that then goes through the solder bath.
RE: Today's question: All good - chips and packages - loved the history and have fond memories of what we used to call DIPs (what has been referred to as dual in-line ICs in this series) when we were modifying Apple computers to run 80 columes and Z-80 processors (CPM).
Thanks all -- I'm a novice at this. Marketing Pro at heart.
We were still doing LTH about 8 years ago. We've since moved to SMT.
EEWms - many CMS [contract mfrs in States], but difficult.
All is automated so very little hands-on
I stand corrected
Rich Q -- thank you.
Fire retardant grade 4, I thought
The "FR" means Flame Retardant (to UL94V-0), and Type "4" indicates woven glass reinforced epoxy resin.
Do any US companies do high-volume board mfg today or is it all overseas? Sounds labor intensive.
fr4=reinforced fiberglass grade 4
Hello everyone. Sorry, joining late today.
What is FR4 in diagram -- what does it stand for?
Rubylith was great for RF layouts.
started with Indigo ink on velium. Bishope Graphics decals and tape was a set up.
rubylith lets you cover whole surface then remove unwanted areas, easier for large area coverage than building up areas to keep as you do with traces.
track at 90 degrees is not good!
@bmats, layout internal layers same as surface layers. Keep checking registration to make sure things line up. Fabricate layers individually then laminate together
@bmatts Use some stuff called Rubylith
sounds like a school project it did
LPE, general interest, don't forget laying tape.
How do you layout your power and ground plans and you keepout areas internal to the board?
I still have some of my early artwork done with Chartpak tape on grid mylar......
@AQPro - today is even much easier. Those days boards were very-very simple comparig todays boards.
@Johnrm: no virus detected during or after unit 4 download here using Symantec virus tools.
Board layouts in the 60s were layed out on a large sheet of mylar, and traces were drawn with a grease pencil. It was easy to make corrections that way.
@Johnrm - I think the SI set Hertz as the frequency unit in the '60s.
KB9JLO => Thanks for the info. I need to design and build a board
@LevitonDave: "winners" will be notified next week.
I have something that looks like the logic chip board in a Pick-and-Place machine we run
Wire wrap was great for prototyping. Easy to make wiring changes and inserting additional circuit functions.
Did anyone else get a virus or the ppt failed to open from unit 4 download?
For hobbyists -- two articles on a great prototyping / testing and even production method of putting parts to circuit boards using what's called the Manhattan method of PCB construction.
I built a whole 8088-based board using wire wrap less than 10 years ago. It took forever!
When did cps change to hertz?
some heathkits used wire wrap
lost audio
First prototype for the Apollo Guidance Computer used cordwood construction, but with drilled-out block holding components for vibration.
Hi all
I have used this (WW) ages ago.
Wire-wrap "guns" were in high demand back in the day.
used to love wirewrap for limited fabrication runs. So easy to correct. A bit tough to debug wiring errors tho
Audio is back, thanks!
I learned how to do this 10 years ago.... and have never used it. :-P
Used this construction for a power disapation - need to get air through it.
Also used in backplanes
I'm still do this!!! =P .... I'm kiding...
for audio, try F5
All 5 are important, but five images brought more memories from the past. I started learning electronics in 1959, and we had cordwood construction.
Used this model in the 70's in areospace.
all of them
I've found all of them to be helpful to me.
Hi All,
Audio is gone
I love the quote
1) New to me are the detailes on IC packaging throughout history
2) On the FPGA more as a refresh course, which is always good.
all were good
Correction all four, but the first three with the audio problems was not fun.
Conductive inks used for printable RFID "stickers"
Realy as new in this area, all of them help me a lot, and allow me to focus on the electronic areas we will work on. Thanks for this oportunity.
Hi Everyone
Programmable Devices. I would like to see a whole week devoted to them.
hi all
This has been a good review. There was no real "new" information. I've had to deal with all of these topics in the past for commercial designs.
If I have to pick one it was IV because of the history lesson. :)
Programmable devices would have been but I can't even hear the archived version. No audio player.
They were all quite interesting from a reveiw point of view, but I found yesterday's session [Programmable Devices] to be the most useful
I enjoyed all the sessions, but I took the most from yesterday's session on PROGRAMMABLE DEVICES.
circuit and sytem packaging has always been a challenge for me.
#4 FPGAs
Has it started? I am not getting audio.
Part III : Chips and Packages ... but expect today will be even more interesting. :)
All four
Programable devices
they where all interesting. But the last one was the best up to now
@bmatts - see Hyperlynx s/w and how to build a stack-up
Part 3 and Part 4 were the best so far.
I think it is important to log in at the right place - just under where you found today's slide deck.
All four have had equal importance for me.
PART III Chips & Packages
Yesterdays, about programable logic.
Most beneficial so far:
a) the FPGA talk contained all-new material for me;
b) All the other material was VERY good as a review.
Thursday's class
The Microprocessor digital logic. Sure cleared alot of things up for me.
Day 4 was excellent!
Can't say yet, missed the last 2 days.
Hi Rich, Max, and everyone. I know, a little late.
Thought yesterday's session #4 was the one I found most interesting and informative.
Part IV: Programmable Devices was great !
Today's also
Programmable Logic (and FPGAs)
Most valuable: yesterday's, especially FPGAs.
Programable Devices
#4 Thursday
The programmable stuff was most interesting
the talk about FPGA is always interesting and gets my imagination working overtime.
yesterday and today
programmable devices was beneficial to me
Today's will be the most beneficial
Good afternoon
Max, how do you deal with the impedace problems between layers of the board. Is their a special calculation I can use to headoff these problems?
made it just in time
yea right :)
Good Afternoon Max
The space vacated for the audio player again but still no audio player.
Hello all
audio 5 by 9 here
audio just started loud and clear
Audio is live !
now we have audio!
audio now
there it is :)
@dfruges - clear your browser history
audio !!
Hello from Ohio
Not yet.
no audio yet
no audio here!
Not yet
hello everyone
Happy Friday! Greetings from NW Minnesota.
@dfruges - give me your email and I will send them to you
audio yet?
Good morning from Hilo.
@dfruges - try reloading your browser then download again
hello guys
Hi dfruges it took awhile for my slides to download as well.
Hello MAX and RICH,
This was a very good series.
hi all,
Our last day with Max. It's been a fun week!
Hello from Tucson.
Hi to Max and Moderator -- I'm having trouble downloading the slides through the class link. All the others were OK but this is giving me a problem.
Any chance you can email them to me ASAP? firstname.lastname@example.com
hi Max!
hello Max...looking forward to more british humor
Yesterday was good and I am looking forward to today's lecture.
testing link
Good Afternoon Max from sunny Florida. I'm really enjoying and learning alot from your presentations. Thanks.
just checking to make sure I am linked.
Good Afternoon Everyone from Culiaan SInalia Mexico
@dfruges...the way I download using IE 8 is to right click on the link above the "save as". I just now download ok
Okay in W Mich as well
@dfruges PPT OK for me
howdy all
hello to everyone from Dallas...on the way to 100 again today
Downloaded mine yesterday and worked fine.
@dfruges, ppt is ok for me.
Download is Ok here......
for it work well
Hi Rich,
Sorry that it is the final chapter, it has been a good review and helped to fill in some of the background.
When will we know if we have "won" one of the wonderful books? :)
I'm having issues with the PPT download. It won't seem to open, I'm getting an error message. Anyone else?
Hi everybody
Hello Max
Hi all,
Good afternoon,
plugged in and ready.
How do we recieve the credit?
Good afternoon from Birmingham, Alabama.
Sorry that this is the last lecture in the series. These have been fun and informative!
Ready for the final Max chapter?
Please download the slide deck from the link above.
Hi folks. Apologies. I was running a little late.
Howdy folks! :)
hello all
Max: Are we going to have a bagpipe joke today?
Wonder if Max will talk about any of the fun issues associated with High Speed signals, signal coupling and skew?
Good Morning/Afternoon from Sunny Cleveland Ohio.
Home of Rockwell Automation's Advanced Technology Lab.
Good to be back to attend the lecture
Good Afternoon Max and All from Mobile, AL
Slide 27 reminds me of a cartoon or drawing I once saw describing the difference between male and female emotions.
A male's emotions have a single on/off button. The female emotional diagram looks a lot like the analog computer in slide 27 :-)
Good morning all from Emonton, AB
Good Morning/Afternoon from Sunny San Jose, CA
Rad tebya videt from Chernobyl.
good afternoon, everyone
Hi from Portlandia :)
Hej ;)
Good morning from California!