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For those of you interested in learning more about embedded vision, I recommend the website of the Embedded Vision Alliance, www.embedded-vision.com, which contains extensive free educational materials.
For those who want to do some easy and fun hands-on experiments with embedded vision first-hand, try the BDTI OpenCV Executable Demo Package (for Windows), available at www.embedded-vision.com/platinum-members/bdti/embedded-vision-training/downloads/pages/introduction-computer-vision-using-op
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Great lecture, thanks Jose
see you next time.
good presentation!
This is just wetting the apetite and begs for more indepth information on this.
These solutions can be implemented in hardware and software, depending on your abilities and speed requirements.
A lot of information in this presentation, in the form of algorythms and other forms of data processing.
Thank You Jos'e Great lecture
Thanks a lot for your GREAT representation!
@Alaskman: on depth-of-field focus. I briefly mentioned in my talk that the other major alternatives to mosaic subsampling are the co-sited foveon approach and the lytro approach, also known as light-field camera or plenoptic camera where you have control of depth-of-field concurrently from the same picture. Give them a look if you are interested.
Dear Jeff Bier, Thanks for your kind help! :-)
By The Way, the Embedded Vision Alliance you mention is a fabulous resource. Thanks.
Back in the day, I maintained starlight PTZ cameras for Alyeska Pipeline. Of course, security also had video cameras everywhere, and process control used cameras for everything from boiler fireboxes to pipe examination. It became apparent that one of the achilles heels in all these systems was the bunch of neurons at the end of the chain.. People would miss the most obvious things happening. What finally stood out was an evolving collection of software that responded to video changes automatically. A security camera can archive hours of video, but software can find the instances where a person enters the FOV. This is a machine vision application! I think THE most important role will be performed by post processing software modules, all using the same image sequence input.
@Alaskaman66: on sensors optimized for particular applications.
Great question, and indeed there are infrared sensors and other types used for particular applications, but in the end it comes down to whether a market is large enough for sensor manufacturers to create such specialized sensors. In the meantime, as I alluded in my talk, you can create specialized hardware/software blocks that take advantage of your application. For example, extracting edges and background information directly and early in the sensor pipeline in order to better do object segmentation. Many of these blocks are available as IP cores.
Thank you
@Anatoliy1086: embedded vision kits available. I encourage you to go to www.xilinx.com and look at the "Applications" section where you will find several kits available. They are not specifically labelled 'embedded vision' but are arranged by industry. For example, in the Broadcast industry you would look at the RTVE (Real Time Video Engine) and in the Industrial section to the IVK (Industrial Video Kit). Thanks!
Thank you Jose for your presentation.
Thanks for the presentation, Jose. Learned a lot.
Thank you Jose and all participants
This is a great presentation. Thanks everyone.
@JimmyL: at this time there is no MIPI core available directly from Xilinx. Sorry :(
Many thanks dipert_bdti.
jralvarez: Thanks!
@jbswindle, no problem. Check out, then, the various Apical articles on the site, specifically those dealing with dynamic range processing (Apical will also be presenting tomorrow, and you can re-ask your question then)
@atlantl: on licensing IP cores: IP components are licensed not only by Xilinx but from its partners. It depends on the particular function whether there is a fee. Typically, all the embedded IP is provided as part of the Xilinx design tools and ready to use to build embedded systems. A Xilinx IP-core (LogiCore) is supported for multiple families and clearly specified in the documentation and the tools.
Alaskaman: That's probably the "Lytro" camera.
jbswndle: The "Lens correction" that several of us referred to is exactly what you're speaking of: Correcting for the non-uniform sensor illumination that comes out of a real lens.
Speaking of lens issues, I seem to remember someone came up with a method of addressing depth-of-field focus problems in digital processing. Anyone see that?
Thanks dipert_bdti. That page, though quite interesting, seems to deal with optical distortion such as fish-eye lens distortion. I'm talking about undesired attenuated video levels, not undesired pixel displacement.
@btwolfe: on 'pipelined' bus. Well, indeed, Xilinx has adopted AXI-4 as interconnection infrastructure. It is not technically a 'bus' but a system of interconnection that promotes interoperability for all IP cores / processing blocks. AXI is an industry standard and therefore accessible to all (e.g. non-proprietary)
Perhaps one should work backward from the application: lets look at facial recognition software. What information does it need? Can the software be implemented earlier in the image processing chain? If we can toss out some of the "bells and whistles" at the sensor/image end, I would bet the bandwidth, data handling requirements,and power needs would drop substantially. Of course, the acquired working images might be unrecognizable to the human eye.
@hdw5d6: on pipeline approaches. I'm afraid I do not understand the question... sorry. The good thing about implementation using an 'all-programmable' approach in an FPGA is that you can do almost anything with your data formats. In most 'popular' approaches, there is always an IP core (pre-packaged core) that will do the job. Also, there are open source cores that while not fully verified/validated in a specific device provide good starting points
@jbswindle, regarding lens aberration correction, check this out: www.embedded-vision.com/platinum-members/bdti/embedded-vision-training/documents/pages/lens-distortion-correction
I asked about shading correction for its potential contribution to feature extraction such as that required for OCR. OCR binarization algorythms attempt to deal with adjacent pixel level changed due to both noise and background brightness changes (perhaps due to background artwork). I haven't seen anything about shading correction outside of telecine/live studio video camera enviornments.
Thanks for your presentation.
Thanks very much Jose!
@jbswindle: on optical correction.
Great question. Due to the time limitation, I did not go into lenses, but you are correct. Lens aberrations are very important to address, especially in applications where you are forced to use small lenses. These two-dimensional aberrations can be corrected digitally. What you want to look for is an IP core that does general de-warping or it is dedicated to a specifc correction like: vignetting or lens shading correction (especially in the corners)
@pixclautotech: FPGA voltages, mounting
These vary with the interfaces you need. But typically for devices like Xilinx Series 7, the choices are 1.2V, 1.35V, 1.5V, 1.8V, 2.5V, 3.3V and are available in a variety of package options.
interesting session
Atlant: Unfortunately, we do seem to be at the mercy of the market..
how are basic vision IP blocks licensed? I'd like to get an idea of what it costs to get started on a relatively simple machine vision prototype?
Alaskaman: One opportunity would be a monochrome camera (with all the resolution of the current cameras but no Bayer color filter in front of the sensor). Unfortunately, you and I would be buying hundreds or thousands but the mobile phone camera vendors buy millions of full-color cameras.
@jbswindle: on integrated camera ISP.
Many sensors are provided with an integrated signal processing (ISP) module. In some systems if you have access to the raw data or if you need to implement a specific algorithm, then an external processing device (FPGA) can be used. It really depends on your application.
@jralavrez same question as Anatoliy1086, but specifically a developement kit for stating FPGA vision programming
Much of the technical characteristics of sensors and video processing are related to the peculiarities of human vision: tri-stimulus response ratios; gamma correction, color gamut spaces, frame rates, etc. Obviously, sensor manufacturers cater to the "human use" market. Why not go back to square 1 and design the sensor system optomized for machine vision? For example, if speed (frame rate) is necessary for a fast production line, maybe one doesn't need to bother with high resolution or color. Anyone out there using such an approach?
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I'll take this opportunity to respond to a question from yesterday's session. Several people asked for references on the example applications I described on slide 7 in Monday's presentation. Please note that there are multiple commercially available products in each of these categories. I'm including one example of each here. (Please note that I have mangled the URLs since valid URLs are apparently rejected by the chat software. Replace the "-dot-" with a simple "." In each instance and you're good to go.)
Heart rate from video: www-dot-vitalsignscamera-dot-com/
Pill identification: www-dot-pillidscan-dot-com
LEGO augmented reality kiosk: www-dot-metaio-dot-com/kiosk/lego/
Surgical robot for hair transplantation: restorationrobotics-dot-com
Automotive safety (2013 Cadillac XTS, one example of many): www-dot-youtube-dot-com/watch?v=AsHQ5ORXinE
Automatic panorama image stitching: www-dot-cs-dot-bath-dot-ac-dot-uk/brown/autostitch/autostitch.html
Are there any Xilinx embedded vision kits available? If yes, what are those?
Are the Xylinx "IP Core" components licensed for $ or for free to Xylinx users? Which FPGA families do they work with?
Thank you, Jose. Very nice overview.
are there any microcontrollers besides the STM32F4 series which include digital image sensor interfaces?
Haven't seen a MIPI core.
Good Lecture!
Thanks! Does Xilinx Zynq has the IP core for MIPI CSI?
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Hello everyone. Thanks for attending. First on the question of IP cores: these are logic cores that simplify your design and are available from FPGA vendors or from third-party partners. Sometimes, they are bundled in design suites
Xilinx offers a pipeline image "bus" just for this purpose. It's called an AXI stream
BGA is very common for high I/O count FPGAs.
Thanks José!
Nice overview; thanks!
Good Info. Faster next time please. ;-)
Thanks a lot Jose, it's a great lecture.
Thanks for interesting talk!
Thank you.
are there pipeline approaches to processing that are bitstream oriented? this would be more focused on feature extraction than actual video storage.
Thanks, Jose! Fascinating discussion.
Thanks Jose
Thanks Jose. Nice job.
Thank You!
Thank you Jose & Check
Thanks Jose - nice overview.
very good presentation
Thank you José
Thank you Jose.
Thank you Jose!
Xylon provides a "Perspective Transformation and Lens Correction Image Processor" IP core for Xilinx devices
There is no typical, as the voltages vary depending on the product line and the I/O settings you select when configuring your FPGA.
What voltage do FPGAs typically require? 5vdc, 3.3vdc? What about chip mounting eg BGA?
Yes, both FPGA vendors provide this IP, both free and for money
jbswindle: Some vendors call it "Lens correction".
Does Altera or Xilinx provide thes IP core?
Haven't seen it referenced.
Optical correction, etc are also available. Some cameras, e.g., OmniVision, have these functions built in so you don't have to do it in the FPGA.
jbswindle: Some camera modules will do those corrections for you in their DSPs. (Well, if you can figure out their data sheets!)
What about correction for optical, mechanical, and pixel vignetting effects? In analog days this kind of shading error was corrected with scaled parabola signals added to the baseband video at horizontal and vertical rates. Gradient shading errors were corrected with scaled saw tooth addition at horizontal and vertical rates. What, if anything, is done in the digital domain to correct shading errors?
And there's your answer...
pixclautech: Xylinx (or your favorite FPGA vendor) will license to you FPGA modules they've already developed.
Yes, that is what an IP core is. It's a pre-defined design that implements a specific function.
DurhamHusker: Their player does that :-(.
What's an "IP Core"? A design implementation file for an off-the-shelf FPGA?
Had to restart audio again, just now.
Audio perfect for me!
same audio problem here (levis, qc)
FWIW, I had to restart the player a few times during yesterday's presentation, also.
I also had to restart the player a few times.
@caa028: Yes. I had to restart the player a few times.
@vsrollins - thx. must be my connection then...
Yes, it comes and goes
I'm also email-forwarding the questions to José as you post them, so he's sure to not overlook them. Keep 'em coming!
@caa028. Nope. Sorry.
Anyone elese experiencing audio interruptions (hiccups)?
Good qustion. Don't forget to ask Jose again during the chat, Grouby!
Do the Xilinx FPGA Devices (Spartan-6 or Zynq-7000) support the following electrical standards, used by image sensor interfaces ?
- Aptina HiSPI
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I guess a humming noise is coming from Jose's mobile phone.
What type of market is for 4k format?
mahmood: There is some background hum, audible during quiet moments.
@mahmood, I'm not personally hearing any egregious background noise
audio is goog now.
Some small projects in concept stage.
is there noise in the audio, or is it just my connection?
PC peripheral for medication identification.
Golf swing analysis
digital night vision monocular and currently we are using xilinx FPGA but I am thinking to migrate to Zync because I want to add some image processing techniques in my device
No current work, just studying vision imaging
Not currently pursuing image products but am hopeful. Have done some in the past.
Working on USB endoscopes, smart USB display panel with I/O and image sensor.
Working on a tiny video recorder/transmittor for UAVs
Robot control
I'm interested in low cost sensor for weld inspection.
Nothing embedded vison for the moment
no projet for the moment
nothing with vision yet
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Some background noise from Jose
(Some background hum, though.)
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Ahh! Success with the audio, new computer and all!
Audio is up and running
it is starting, i hear the audio
Audio is up.
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It's a shame the website doesn't offer a "test audio" player; today I'm on a different computer and would hate to be surprised to discover at 14:00 that the audio player is incompatible with this computer, this browser, or my brwser's particular plug-ins.
@cvl, what is the download problem you're having? The download worked fine for me. They're in PDF (Adobe Acrobat) format
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Please feel free to post questions and desired presentation topics to this chat, and I'll pass them along to José so that he can accordingly tailor his delivery of the material
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Atleast we would have 2 championship back up Centers, And im sure he is friends with Chauncey
Wow- I wonder what does this mean- isn't this too many centers? We'd also be at 15 players with guaranteed contracts on the roster, right? Or could it be a prelude to a trade?
Darko is a better option than Hollins imo.I hope this is true.You can have Darko,Odom and Ronny split up minutes based on performance and have Hollins and Trey around incase of injury.Would be great if we can bring in Darko because he is a defensive 7 footer which is what we need.
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Darko Milicic has decided to return to Europe to forget. The Serbian power forward has been offered to several European clubs, Real Madrid was interested in recent days for him, but announced in a Serbian web will continue in the NBA.
In fact, in the orbit of the Clippers and is more than likely that if was speaking is because it is very close to signing on this or any other franchise.
Milicic club appreciates the interest and commitment white NBA, where he spent ten seasons over five different clubs without ever giving a good result despite the high expectations generated at the time.
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Cut Leslie and sign Darko to vet's min and still stay under the luxury threshold...hmmm.
Yea I think this is what they should do.No room for Leslie now with Chancey,Crawford,and Green at the 2.And the Timberwolves are still paying Darko about $11 mill for the last two years of his contract because they amnestied him.So I think he will be willing to take the min.
Interesting. I'd be fine with this, if true, even if it meant cutting Leslie. Leslie's not going to see the floor anyway with all the guards we have. And, with the Lakers aquiring Howard, we could use a big with a little more muscle than DJ and Hollins have.
Honestly I want him but there's too many centers now.
loosely translated: Darko has decided to forget returning to europe. the serbian center had been targetted by several european clubs, including real madrid, but he has announced over the web that he will continue playing in the NBA. in fact, the clippers are looking at him. it is probable that he has made these declarations because hes close to signing with the clippers. darko thanks real madrid for their interest, but hes betting on playing in the nba, where he has been playing for 10 years and 5 teams, without ever fulfilling the promise with which he went into the nba.
Thanks bullterrier, that's helpful. Now I just hope the news isn't coming from the Spanish equivalent of Bleacher Report.
I think we'll probably trade one of our bigs for a 2nd round, as we have none till 2016 I believe?
I hope we don't waste that 15th spot on Darko. We already have 6 PF/Cs.
And correct me if I'm wrong but I think the clippers go into the luxury if they sign even 1 minimum contract. This team needs a backup 1 or 2/3. Not a terrible center with a bad attitude.
If the Rockets waive Shaun Livingston, he would be the perfect fit with the CP3/Chauncey injuries. At least we get to see more of Eric Bledsoe.
Thanks bullterrier, that's helpful. Now I just hope the news isn't coming from the Spanish equivalent of Bleacher Report.
"Las opiniones de idiotas y de ninos" dot com...?
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If we have a chance to sign a defensive 7 footer for the min I would jump at that even if we had 8 centers signed.Don't forget he was a problem for the Clippers when we played the Wolves.So having him work with BG and DJ can help their growth a lot.Hollins can dunk but that is about it.Trey can shoot but he is still working on his all around game.
Darko is exactly what we need.Clippers big weakness last year was defense and now we lost Reggie and K-Mart.Odom and Turiaf don't really make up for those loses,defensively at least but you bring in Darko and we have a very solid group of bigs.If he doesn't work out who cares we have him for the min,we can use him as a trading piece.He brings more to the table than Hollins and Turiaf.
His attitude might be a problem but with him we have another guy to hard foul people trying to punk Blake and DJ and he can make Free Throws.We don't need another PG or SG.We might need another SF but I rather get Darko cause with him on the court we can use Odom at the 3 at times.I hope we get him,he can improve one of our biggest weaknesses which is our defense.
As of now, DJ, LO, Ronnie, or Hollins can not guard Dwight or any other big man. All these are shot blocking undersized bigs. Having a 7 footer who actually has some body can only help and give us an extra body to throw out there. We are fine at the 1. With CP3/Bled/Chauncy. Same with the 3. Caron/Hill/Craw/LO. I rather have Darko who can contribute, has exp. and is a 7 foot defensive minded player than someone we'll call up or never use like Leslie.
Our biggest hole is frontcourt help and darko's much better than turiaf and hollins...and DJ. Make it happen.
Darko is MUCH better than Ronny and Hollins. Would be a great move. That guy is tough, mean, and an excellent post defender. A lot of us were hoping he'd be signed a month ago. This would be great for the team.
15th roster being used means nothing. If we need to free up a spot At some point we just waive one of the cheap guys.
I never thought I'd ever say this..but I wouldn't mind Darko on our team. He suprised me last year with his improved game.
I say grab him, you can never have too many semi- skilled 7 footers.
I think we should add him to give us more versatility in the paint.
Adding him is only redundancy. In my opinion he will give us an addition 1 win lol.
If we're are going to have any chance to stop the Lakers it might not be bad to add Darko. That way we can play at least 2-3 bigs to stop D12 and Gasol.
This signing will keep me off the front office haterade. Make it happen sack
I don't agree... DJ is the exact same height and weight as Howard. DJ plays Howard just as good as any center in the league.
Hollins is 7 ft tall too, and Ronny was guarding Shaq succesfully!
I don't agree... DJ is the exact same height and weight as Howard. DJ plays Howard just as good as any center in the league.
If darko is here then we don't need anyone to guard Howard 1 on 1. We will have 4 guys to give 6 fouls each. Have fun at the free throw line Dwight!!!
Not like Ronny and Darko play bad defense!
Signing Darko would make it so that we wouldn't lose anything whenever DJ sits out, whether it be poor play or foul trouble. Darko is a very good defender in the low post and I hope we can look to him to be an enforcer for us along with Turiaf. I really really hope we get him.
Darko would be a great addition.Didn't think many people would be against it.Just to refresh some memories Darko embarrassed DJ when Clippers played the Wolves.He dropped 22 points on DJ(a guy coming off the bench who had a season average of 4.6 points easily dropped 22 points on our starting center).I wouldn't be surprised if Milicic starts after a while.Not trying to say DJ isn't good but if Darko is motivated he can be a very good player and after getting amnestied I think he will be motivated.I really hope the Clippers make it happen.
Actually in the 9 head to head match ups between Darko and DJ, Darko wins in the Pts category slightly, but DJ wins by a landslide in the rebounding department....5-4 in favor of Darko. He'd be a good addition to the team.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... =milicda01
If darko is here then we don't need anyone to guard Howard 1 on 1. We will have 4 guys to give 6 fouls each. Have fun at the free throw line Dwight!!!
If he's not a jackass like the time he did the interview and said he'd r*** the ref's mother, wife and daughter than I'll be more than welcome to the idea of him here!
who has DJ ever shut down?? plus it gives us more bodies to throw in there. So if DJ gets in foul trouble, we have another body to throw at them.
With 4 centers on the roster we can always rotate another guy in when the others get into foul trouble. I'm not sure how foul prone Darko and Hollins are but its a very real possibility that when DJ and Ronnie are on the court that their foul count will be higher than average.
Another plus to having four centers is probably only two will get minutes which will keep the guys playing knowing they could be benched if they don't produce.
I'm not worried about the Lakers last time they had this stacked of a lineup with Payton and Malone their season didn't end well.
Um, I'm very worried about the Lakers. If it all fits together for them, it is a record setting type year.
Fortunately, the odds of it all fitting and working may not be good. They have old players, they have a center with a bad back, the have a super-superstar with a huge ego. They have no bench. The coach may not be a top tier guy.
A couple injuries, some bad coaching, a petulant acting superstar, the bench playing to the level it looks on paper could = a major bust season.
But if it all clicks, that starting five will be devastating.
I'm not worried about the Lakers last time they had this stacked of a lineup with Payton and Malone their season didn't end well.
But if it all clicks, that starting five will be devastating.
That's a recipe for an unsuccessful season for a lot of teams, including ours, LOL.
Here's hoping. The basic laws of economics and good managment never seem to catch up to the Lakers. Maybe this is the year. Let's just beat them on the court, with quality/ high charcter guys and a sensible payroll and let the results speak for themselves.
as a player.... no doubt, sign the guy.... as a person.... those press clippings/excerpts are troubling.... ??
Sign Darko and maybe trade DJ to Houston for a few of their young pieces?
But then again Rox already have Asik.
It's quite comical to see how overrated Darko is on here. He sucks. That's why Minnesota got rid of him. Terrible attitude and gives 50% on the floor. Had we not signed Hollins or Turiaf this move would make a little more sense but at this point we'd be overstocked with bad centers.
Quality > Quantity
I thought we wanted to see more of Thompkins? What about Odom? The improvement of Blake/DJ? And Turiaf is supposed to get some minutes too. Darko CANT guard Dwight and we have 6 big men to give fouls if D12 can't be stopped. I don't know why you guys are acting like our Forwards fouled out of every game last year.
What happens if Griffin gets injured? We have Odom and Thompkins.
What happens if DJ gets injured? We have Hollins and Turiaf.
Literally no need for Darko. This team is deep. The only position we're thin at is the 3 with Butler and Hill. If either gets hurt, I don't want to have wasted a roster spot on Darko.
If he's such a stud why hasn't another team given him a chance? Right, that's because he's a bust!
if he plays like this for us.... lets do it
^^^ Dude, nobody's calling him a stud or talking about bringing him in as the starter. We're saying he could provide some solid defensive minutes off the bench. Signing him for the vet's minimum to compete for the back-up center position seems like a pretty low risk proposition.
And if you haven't noticed, there's actually quite a few decent players out there who still haven't been signed. It doesn't mean they all suck. Its a byproduct of the new CBA.
Darko has never even had a year good as Jordan's last year so we trade the better player for a guy who couldn't produce when he did get time? DJ is a far away from all star caliber but the guy did not have terrible year. If he continues to improve then he will gave a near or actually double double year.
I've seen people suggest trading DJ after acquiring Darko.......
My point is, we have SIX forwards. What happens if we have an injury at the 1 or 3? We'd have to cut a player to make room for a free agent.
There is no room for Darko and he adds nothing to this team.
The idea of trading DJ and relying on Darko now that is a scary thought.


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I didnt have the luxury of watching the game...but following it on cbs.sportsline, I could tell there was something wrong with Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley being the main guys on the court. They are not superstars as you say. Not even close. Their best role is supporting a star cast. Well Ours just happens to be sitting on the bench either injured or a "rookie". Except for Thornton.
Kaman will have a chance to flourish with Camby in the lineup. Cuz where Kaman is soft, Camby is tough. Camby's gonna make him look good and give him confidence. Chris is a whole different player with confidence.
That huge lead that dissappeared happened while Baron was still out, but the effects of him not playing took their toll when the game neared the end. Nobody to lead at the point. Mike Taylor did his best for what? 5 minutes or something. Then Jason Hart came in. Nothing aganist him, but without people who can score, he's not gonna be the one to do it.
Dunleavy needs to figure this team out or he will lose their respect. We have talent, but he needs to use it properly.
Right now, my biggest gripe with Dunleavy is his (lack of) in-game adjustments and substitution patterns. I think he's using these first two games to find out what group of five meshes with one other. Unfortunately, it's come at the expense of two humilating home losses. There has to be better ball movement (with or without the basketball), and less use of isolation plays. The guys are either lost, unmotivated, or both. Unlike some, I'm not calling for trades, at least not yet. The season is almost a week old, and when your roster is two-thirds new, it's going to take time to mesh, especially since two of our most valuable players have played one preseason game between them.
Knowing the micro-manager Mike Dunleavy is, it's hard to change ways. For him, this is a learning experience for him, as well as his players. However, his piss-poor in-game coaching has to change, and it has to change tonight in Salt Lake City. So far, he's been outcoached by two of the game's better coaches in Phil Jackson and George Karl, and we all know that Jerry Sloan isn't a slouch either. Dunleavy's best player is Al Thornton, and he has milk Big Al for everything it's worth, or we're getting killed again.
Saturday, Nov. 01 2008
Can anyone tell me why our players either runs out of time or shoots the ball when the clock is about to run out? Did he forget that it's now 24 seconds to shoot the ball rather than 28?
That is not his fault...it is the players fault for not being aware of the clock.
Dunleavy's plays takes too long, too many movements, but not very effective. No team really gets tricked with his plays! Most of the time, the play only has one player to which the ball was going to and the opponent usually knows which player it would be.I have noticed that in the first two games, BD had to always be creative to get our players open and when he was gone (His body is not made out of glass, is it?), well, you know what happened, difficult shots all over the court.
Plays are not meant to trick, they are meant to be executed in a way where you screen for an open shot or isolate a player for a shot. I am not sold that it's Dunleavy's fault, I am sold that the players are not executing the plays properly.
Mobley has been great on the post...did you not watch yesterday's game?
Thomas is getting better but I am not sold on his low post game just yet.
I think Dunleavy's preference on calling these plays has to do with mismatches. If I see a one on one mismatch, I would probably call the same play.
Not sure he said it in that context. He did say he would apply run more with Baron but he never said he would run more than having a set offense.
So far, it looks like he is going with his plan.
^^Good points CJ and I agree with most of them. Mobley in particular is a very accomplished post player.
I do have a slight beef with that final play last night in regulation- personally I would've preferred a more creative play that resulted in an open jumper. It seemed to be just throw the ball to Tim Thomas in the post and everyone else stand and watch. Also I think Dunleavy should have played Taylor more over Hart, but I'll cut him some slack because he's still feeling out the capabilities of the newer guys.
The reasons we always take shots late in the clock:
Hart and Taylor take way to long to get the offense going. The crazy lady behind me even calls Taylor, Tap Tap Taylor because he just dribbles the ball for ever.
Our wing players hold on to the ball to long looking for the perfect shot. Our ball movement was great in the first half and then in the second half we went back to our old ways. We just need to trust our teammates that when moving the ball we'll get an open shot.
When dumping it into the post Kaman holds on to the ball to long as well. He needs to learn to make a move before he gets doubled. He never passes out of the post and the re-posts. This is something that all bigs do. Our guys also stand around way to much when the ball is in the post. In the first half guys were slashing and cutting, while this didn't happen in the second half.
Who knows. We had 1 good quarter on opening night. Two good quarters last night. Maybe tonight is 3 and Monday we'll finally put it all together.
I think I was the first to say MD should've been fired when he benched Livingston for Daniel Ewing on the defensive sequence when Raja Bell hit a three in his face in the playoffs. Hey...... do you guys know who was coaching Portland when they lost something like a 20 point lead in the fourth??? Dumleavy. ALmost everything he does is questionable to me, he should just handle GM duties and hire Henry Bibby I heard he was hanging aroung Clippers training camp this year. With BD out for tonights game i want to see if Gordon gets some run tonight. A smart coach would play him, I thought when we played the lakers MD was micro managing putting Cat on Kobe cuz he can guard him pretty good but CAt played alot of mins against Denver too.
I agree with some of what you're saying, but Henry Bibby as our coach is laughable. He's awful.
Gordon doesn't really know how to play offense yet, let alone run a team. This is the main reason he isn't playing yet. He's got all of the talent in the world, but he needs to learn how to play the game.
I wouldn't play Gordon at the point, I would play him at the 2 for instant offense.
Avery Johnson is out there.
Is Dunleavy losing it?
Should he just become a full GM and retire from coaching?
At least take a year off from coaching?
Should the Clippers try to hire Avery Johnson, at least for next year, when his contract with ESPN is out?
Of course! I've had it with him.
naw dunleavy is fined
dont be fooled by those playoff runs, avery johnson is a horrible coach.
his players hated him and thats pretty much the reason he was given the boot. players were even demanding to be traded if avery was sticking around.
MDSr is the best option we have at the moment.
unless you wanna get hubie brown from the nursing home.
Really? I thought they liked him.
"Is Dunleavy losing it?"
Losing what? Players to injury? Yeah, it seems like it. Two starters, that's a prety big handicap. A better question might be if Coach Dunleavy should have the team perform better despite injuries, like Rick Adelman with the Rockets, or McMillan with the Blazers. In which case, yeah, he probably should.
"Should he just become a full GM and retire from coaching? At least take a year off from coaching?"
Right now, I'd like to see how he does with Baron Davis. We've seen a grand total of one reg. season game with the both of them, and it was not an indicative one. Also, curious to see how he works Camby into his system, because we could really use someone with his talent in the lineup.
"Should the Clippers try to hire Avery Johnson?"
It seems more like they carried him into the finals, not the other way around. He demanded D. Harris for Jason Kidd, which didn't make him any friends in the organization. And if we're going to lure away an announcer, I'd rather have JVG (despite his notorious grind-it-out system).
The Mavs players didn't like Avery for the same reason Maggette didn't like MD. Avery preaches defense and since when did the players dictate who's their head coach. Who knows if thats true, I really don't believe it, if they don't win it this year then what will they say. The Mavs won't get as far as Avery got them anytime soon. It was probably J Kidd Im pretty sure him and Avery went at it a few times during their careers.
Actually, I believe it was Cuban who wanted to make that deal go through.
As for the players anger, I believe that they should be more angry at Dirk for not showing up at the playoffs.
Jeff Van Gundy, Avery Johnson, my school janitor, I don't care. Just fire Dunleavy (well, maybe not the janitor). How about a new uprising coach from the collegiate level perhaps?
It seems more like they carried him into the finals, not the other way around. He demanded D. Harris for Jason Kidd, which didn't make him any friends in the organization. And if we're going to lure away an announcer, I'd rather have JVG (despite his notorious grind-it-out system).
Jeff Van Gundy, Avery Johnson, my school janitor, I don't care. Just fire Dunleavy (well, maybe not the janitor). How about a new uprising coach from the collegiate level perhaps?
Correct, it was Cuban who used his executive power to acquire Kidd. He was desperate and made a stupid move instead of letting Avery go.
I have faith in Dunleavy. Personally, I think all of Al Thornton's development is because of Dunleavy's mentorship, same thing with Brand and Kaman - I know we're all mad at Kaman, but he is a lot better than he used to be. Nothing can really be said until we see this team healthy and play at least half a season together, we currently have almost 30million dollars worth of salary sitting on the bench with injuries
Thornton and Brand were pretty much developed I'll give him credit for Kaman though.(how far has he come along) Thornton Played five years in college and brand was co rookie of the year, they already had game. MD had never made anybody better. We had Matt Barnes, Eddie House, Q Rich, Andre Miller,and Maggette might average 30 this year. Still glad he's not a clipper. But for the last few years the Clippers have been one of the younger teams in the league. He drafted kaman livingston korolev ewing p davis and chalmers, I didn't like any of dunleavys picks until the last two years(Al and EG), I took a liking to Livingston after watching him play Kaman too, but every other pick was a bust. Baylor made the move for Brand and most of the fan favorites, except BD.
I agree, we're not really good with player development, especially with teaching rookies common fundamentals. Keep in mind that we constantly draft young talented players year after year with the tools to be great in the NBA and it just never seems to pan out. The only exception was Maggette.
Kaman's footwork never seem to improve and his overall skill set seem to be degrading. He still does'nt understand simple post fundamentals such as how to score. It seems like Kaman's mind is already made up about what he's going to do and disregarding what the defense gives him. He's moves are very mechanical and predictable.
I can't really knock Al Thornton because he's the only one that gives the Clippers some light, but his footwork is still sloppy, although he is just a sophomore so I'll still give him some time.
To me I think the people who are writing to string up MDsr. are jumping the gun here. 9 new players with the 2 main stars hurt and you expect to win? Get serious. They didn't play in the preseason and they are not playing now. Hart and Taylor are not starting PG's. The team needs to be at full strength for atleast 15-25 games before you can gauge their capabilities. NBA champs always have their starters play majority of the season. You can't blame BD and MC being hurt on MDsr. Whether you want to admit it or not this team is in a rebuilding mode. It takes alot of time to come together and mesh. If our starters can get healthy for a long period of time I think they will win and all the complaining will be an afterthought. If they don't get healthy the drama will continue.
Although I question some of the play calls over the years of Dunleavy (esp putting whats his name on Raja Bell for the last play of the playoffs)
I think 3 games deep with all the injuries we definately are jumping gun. With a full squad and 20 games in then we can critique.
Dunleavy did help build this team and he was the one that help us bounce back with some moves after EB jacked us this summer. Lets give him the chance to play the cards he has....
How many new players did the celtics have last year? They won it all.
Not sure but that team had 2 new ALL-STAR caliber players along with another ALL-STAR already on that team. Kind of makes it easier when you have that along with their veteran status.
Not sure but that team had 2 new ALL-STAR caliber players along with another ALL-STAR already on that team. Kind of makes it easier when you have that along with their veteran status.
You beat me to it.
The celtics fans wanted Doc's head on a platter the previous season (pre-KG and Allen). They felt it was all his fault they couldn't win any games with Gerald Green and Al Jefferson surrounding their perrenial all-star Paul Pierce. In fact, there were articles wondering if Rivers would screw up their newly revamped team (sound familiar?). Anyway, it is obvious that winning cures everything. When Baron and Camby et al are finally back together, the wins should start to accumulate.
If Baron didn't take that nasty fall, we could realistically be 2-1 right now, and all this doomsaying from well-meaning (if a little short-sighted) fans in this forum would be for not. But hey, why bother with excuses. Were 0-3 and we're getting our guys back. And even then, it's going to take some time for them to adjust. As mentioned in an earlier thread, Trial-and-Error is going to have to be the mantra through the rough first month.
To those who are doing so, stop calling for the dismantling of this team before we've ever seen it on the court in the first place.
Like I have said b4 and I will say it again...MDSR has done a great job as our"GM" getting all those new players but his coaching has always been less than been desired. He is an below average coach , averaged at times. He has really never done anything spectacular with us or any other team...please don't say he did a great job with the Fakers. He has always had terrible rotations and his teams always fold under pressure. trust me I respect him for doing what he has done to this point with our team but I am not or never have been convinced that he is the one who could lead this team to a Championship...and THATS WHAT I WANT! I have tasted the playoffs but that is not enough.
I hear you. I'm okay with Mike Dunleavy as GM; not so much as coach, let alone both. But I don't think he's hopeless (exasperatingly stubborn, but not hopeless). He doesn't like playing rookies, but he has given rookie PG Mike Taylor a healthy dose of minutes. I'm hoping he relents and starts using more Gordon as well (not thirty minutes a game, but at least more than ten). Also, he needs to change whatever he does at the half because they come out totally flat in the third (the Lakers used to have the same problem pre-Gasol).
This is Dunleavy's chance to prove that Sam alone didn't carry us. We'll know more about what he's truly made of after a month.
Journeyman...Honestly, Don't you think we know enough about MDSR already? There is always some type of excuse for this guy. I honestly think we have had enough almost every year he has been our coach to at least make us an 8th seed. FElton, Maggette and Kaman should of been enough for that. Its frustrating!! Tonight I am taking the whole fam bam and I was hoping the whole squad was gonna be together but it looks like Baron is gonna sit this one out. Hope Its not a blow out and the Fam wants to leave at the half!!
Like I said, this team is completley Dunleavy's now. Aside from Sam (and the occasinal moments from Shaun), there hasn't been a good PG. But he has one in Baron, and an exciting upstart in Mike Taylor as well. Injuries mean an 0-3 start is not a cause for alarm (yet), but it doesn't excuse losing either (the Nuggets game, for example, should not have been an overtime loss).
Camby comes back tonight, rust and all. Here's hoping they play all four quarters (and not just the first half).
Whether they were all stars or not on the Celtics, the point I was trying to make is most of those guys never played with each other before last season and they still won 60 something games. As far as All-Stars we have two and a possible B Davis, and Kaman's been close the last couple of years and Al Thornton is a future all star, gordon too. But for most of the players on the roster to be known to be scorers i'm baffled at how we can't put up points, we gave it up to denver and who plays defense in Denver? That was like coaching a pick up game
Dunleavy did a good job this summer rebuilding the team after that D-Bag Elton Brand left, but really, this guy couldnt coach a high school team to a win. He has to be one of the worst coaches we've ever had. He actually makes me miss Alvin Gentry and Bill Fitch.
I mean come on, isolation play after isolation play after every full timeout. Thats the best you got Dunleavy? Another iso play for Tim Thomas? And we have so much talent on this team, use it! Ricky Davis has scored like 2 points over the last 3 games, for the love of all that is holy, put E Gordon in there. He couldnt do any worse! Dunleavy has no idea how to use his rotations, his halfcourt offensive decisions dont work, and the team looks lost on defense. OK, give them time to gel blah blah blah. We are now 0-4. A real coach makes adjustments after the first half of basketball. What is Dunleavy saying to them? It makes me wonder if the real reason Elton Brand left is because he didnt want to play for Dunleavy anymore. Sure it would have been great to play with Baron, but Dunleavy outweighed that decision. Peace out says Elton.
Im serious, something needs to be done about Dunleavy. I think we have enough talent on this team to win. But there will never be this chemistry everyone on this site keeps talking about as long as a terrible coach is at the helm.
and will someone please give him some fashion advice? those jackets and that comb-over are a joke
sorry to sound so Debbie Downer, but i just cant stand the guy at the moment
Brand has already gone on record as saying he left despite liking Dunleavy, not because of him (someone posted it already on another thread).
Health is the real problem. We got a taste of what our starting lineup looks like. Now they just have to round into form (conditioning wise as well as chemistry).
i dont buy it
You know what? I know people on this site will give me crap for saying this but, I think a TRUE fan knows when to complain about their team. A TRUE fan lets his/her opinions come out freely, bad or good. And right now, there obviously isn't anything good that can be said about the team that we all love, that means its time to at least say what we want about our team. Sure the team needs some time to build team chemistry and all but, if you think Dunleavy's really done a DECENT job lately then you're out of your mind. And me being a TRUE fan I'll gripe all I want about the crappy job that Dunleavy's been doing. We have to get the ball to Thornton more often...he played something like 41 minutes tonight and only got 9 shots. When our supposed main scorer only gets a measly 9 shot attempts out of the 41 minutes he played, there is a major coaching problem. There is no way that a struggling Mobley and Thomas should be taking more shots than Thornton. And I agree 100% with OneNation. Maybe Dunleavy really IS the problem This is the same guy who didn't want to give Maggette playing time and didn't use Thornton last year until the end. Either he figures out that he's got a pretty good team and uses them all instead of just mobley and thomas, or we let this guy go. He's had 5 years with the Clips and has a record of 175-238. Maybe he really is the problem....
I dont think they are supposed to be Iso plays for TT. At least it never looks like he is playing with the others in an offensive set (not a designed iso at least). Dunleavy has shown he can be a great coach in the lakers blazers and clippers (lets not forget 06 playoffs) It four games in and we have already been decimated by injuries...
give it time please:)
"I don;'t buy it."
You don't have to. The games will speak for themselves. You're choosing to measure the first four games. Remember last year, first four wins blah blah blah. I'm giving it a month before anything substantial can be measured.
It is supposed to be ISO plays for Thomas. Dunleavy said after the Denver game that the last play of regulation was supposed to be an ISO shot for TT because he had the "hot hand." Thomas had made one shot in the previous 12 minutes before that. Another great call from Dunleavy
Bro' you're not Debbie Downer. You hit the nail on the head. I never criticise MDSR. but he is the problem. Chemistry my buns. BD didn't play well and Chris was a monster. Camby played well. We had no shooters. No one could break down the defense 'cause there is no where to dish. They protect the paint and there's no where to pass. I HATE ROOKIES BUT... Gordon and Ricky should have had big minutes and Novak should have played. Play them out of their slump. We didn't expect to win anyway and when the problem became obvious Dumbleavy should have fixed it So we lose but make it a learning experience so we win next time.Why isn't Chris getting their bigs in foul trouble? He's never at the line
By all means, criticize this team if you feel you must. I'm not for advocating absolute positivity. Dunleavy ain't perfect. His rotations tend to come a few minutes too late, and he won't play Gordon. Those are valid things to complain about.
His combover and his suits are utterly irrelevant.
I also kindly disagree that there is nothing good to be said. Camby looked GOOD on the court with Kaman in limited minutes. It was literally his first game, and he looked like he can coexist with Kaman. Camby said before the game he is a no-nonsense kinda guy and clearly Kaman responds to someone riding his back (the way Sam did).
Also, the team is getting healthy, slowly but surely. Baron is not even 100% but he's playing through the pain (as he should be, of course).
We got Taylor at 55. He's going to contribute.
A "true fan" is not measured by how loud you're cheering, nor is criticizing the team indicative of somehow being an fake fan. But sometimes people have a way of losing perspective.
Dunleavy's rotations come in a few minutes late, or never comes in at all. I'm utterly confused by his "logic" if I can even call it that now.
Oh and I'm saying all this not just from seeing the first 4 games of this season, but I'm judging it since two years ago. And please, don't mention that his teams have been plagued by injuries. A good coach finds ways to patch things up and hold the ship up until that "Star" player gets back. Just look at the Wizards, I'm not sure of the last time when their 3 best players have been on the court at once and all healthy, yet they figure out ways to stay above .500. I know they play in the East and all but still, I'm just saying that a good team/coach knows how to get the most out of their players when worse comes to worst.
And don't forget the Rockets as well.
Oh and I'm saying all this not just from seeing the first 4 games of this season, but I'm judging it since two years ago. And please, don't mention that his teams have been plagued by injuries. A good coach finds ways to patch things up and hold the ship up until that "Star" player gets back. Just look at the Wizards, I'm not sure of the last time when their 3 best players have been on the court at once and all healthy, yet they figure out ways to stay above .500. I know they play in the East and all but still, I'm just saying that a good team/coach knows how to get the most out of their players when worse comes to worst.
And don't forget the Rockets as well.
Exactly! They're almost always missing one of their top 2 players, who happens to be some of the best players there is in this league. YET they know how to not only stay afloat, but excel in other ways to make the playoffs. They might not get past the first round, but they KNOW how to deal with injuries. Dunleavy doesn't :/
If you are a boxer and you're getting hammered with a left jab, a true fan will tell to keep your hands up. Everyone is pissed and is looking for the right soultion. This isn't negative.Last year or last game doesn't matter. Our goa is to find out why we're being picked apart in the second half. WE go ice cold and get killed by 100 pts. 100 pts ain't chemistry The combover? LMAO
I think we already know why we're getting picked apart in the 2nd half. Dunleavy constantly gives the ball to Thomas and Mobley, when he should be feeding it to Al Thornton. I don't know anymore....maybe the team will understand what Dunleavy's trying to say in like another 4 years....
ps the postive, Camby looked good. Chris hit a jumper. He laid down the "In your Face" and he had my predicted 30 (some combination of pts and rebs)
Exactly! They're almost always missing one of their top 2 players, who happens to be some of the best players there is in this league. YET they know how to not only stay afloat, but excel in other ways to make the playoffs. They might not get past the first round, but they KNOW how to deal with injuries. Dunleavy doesn't :/
Your points are thought out and explained very well.
I would personally rather wait to see how the rest of November unfolds before declaring anything on the new GM/coach. The reason I'm giving him a clean slate is because the team is now his responsibility 100 percent, unlike before. this means he will have no more excuses at this point if the team can't get it together. HOWEVER, I"m not anxiously awaiting for him to screw up. Maybe I've lost my mind ( ) but it seems that it would be in the interest of the fans to see Dunleavy succeed, not fail. Therefore, I'd rather give him a fair chance to see what one season looks like under Dunleavy as both GM and coach.
In the meantime, he is certainly open to scrutiny. But isn't the discussion always funner when the arguments are meaningful, instead of questioning each other's loyalties and lobbing personal insults around?
We lost tonight. At least we finally saw Baron and Camby. And Kaman's coming around.
The bun bite with Dumbleavy goes back years. Remember not telling Sam about the 8 sec. The substitution when Bell beat us. Destroying the team with his public feud with Magettee so bad we couldn't keep Doug Christie for 10 days? We should have been 2nd round PO's Thomas and Cat are playing hard but unless we get more offense we're screwed and it's his job to develop the great shooters we have.


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Samuel Allen Wise, 46 — failure to appear and pay
Tommy Jude Sherlock, 47 — shoplifting less than $2,000, public drunk
Latisha Wylona Williams, 33 — speeding 54 mph in a 35 mph zone bench warrant
Tracy Bogdansky Gray, 40 — fraudulent check four counts
Cardenius Antione Hook, 32 — disorderly conduct
Trelon Vishinski James, 33 — leaving the scene of an accident bench warrant
Ernest Sherrod Croft, 21 — assault and battery
Carlos Donnelle Jamison, 32 — Orangeburg hold per National Crime Information Center Teletype
John Chad Rankin, 40 — ordinance/domestic animals
James Robert Morgan Jr., 32 — violation of court order
Patrice Danielle Laboo, 22 — shoplifting value $2,000 or less
Edasha Cherice Key, 20 — shoplifting value $2,000 or less
Khadijah Denise Weaver, 19 — shoplifting value $2,000 or less
Rhonda Renee Rose, 37 — failure to comply with court order, driving under the influence bench warrant, driving while suspended bench warrant
Richard Thomas Durden, 21 — watercraft/violation
Travis Christopher Sweetnam, 30 — driving under the influence second offense
Alvin Patten Jr., 42 — driving under the influence second offense
Brett Taylor Olson, 23 — driving under the influence second offense
Steve Welsh Conder III, 40 — driving under the influence second offense
Tiffany Lashawnda Jackson, 35 — driving under the influence first offense
Andrea Nicole Lewis, 28 — shoplifting less than $2,000
Jabari Keon Carter, 20 — malicious injury, possession of 28 grams or less of marijuana, failure to pay simple possession of marijuana, failure to pay open container of beer, failure to pay minor in possession of beer, criminal domestic violence
Desiree Kaye Bell, 45 — failure to appear and pay
Richard Jay Barker, 44 — failure to pay as ordered two counts
Dave Randolph Chavis, 46 — disorderly conduct
Casey Christian Kohler, 27 — possession of other controlled substance five counts, manufacture, distribution of methamphetamine, possession with intent to distribute methamphetamine, possession of 28 grams or less of marijuana second offense bondsman off bond
Dave Randolph Chavis Jr., 22 — malicious injury to personal property, disorderly conduct
Cory Joshua Matheson, 22 — driving under the influence
Kelly Latresa Padgett, 33 — leaving the scene with traffic damage
Monroe Hall III, 20 — failure to use headlight when required bench warrant, moped licensing provisions violation bench warrant, manufacture, distribution, etc. of cocaine base first offense
Lacey Jeanne Blair, 22 — giving false information
Jimmie Johnson, 59 — disorderly conduct
Donnell Nathaniel Baskett, 30 — public drunk, manufacture schedule I, II and III with intent to distribute, manufacture, distribute and possession of narcotic drugs in schedule I, LSD and schedule II first offense, trespassing after notice
Donald Gary Mixon, 30 — no South Carolina driver's license, driving under the influence
Jason Robby Jenkins, 28 — criminal domestic violence
Stephanie Diane Williams, 19 — legal custodian
Derek Devon Simpkins, 30 — trespassing after notice bench warrant
Markus David Bearden, 19 — open container of beer, minor in possession of beer, possession of other controlled substance
Carrie Renee Christopher Knotts, 47 — arson third degree
Brenden Scott Miller, 24 — possession of narcotics narcotic in schedule I, LSD, schedule II first offense, possession of less than one gram of methamphetamine or cocaine base, driving under influence first offense
Michael Anthony Bishop, 43 — no South Carolina driver's license, driving under the influence first offense
Clarence Sullivan Coleman Jr., 18 — minor in possession of alcohol, entering premises without permission
Travis Ray Chambers, 19 — entering premises without permission
Arnold Jerome Seaward II, 17 — driving under the influence first offense, possession of other controlled substance
Cameron Stewart Seely, 27 — unlawful carrying of a pistol, open container of beer, possession of controlled substance, driving under the influence first offense
Doris Ivette Morris, 30 — no valid driver's license, driving under the influence first offense, open container of beer
Johnnie Richardson, 71 — disorderly conduct
Mary Elizabeth Brookshire, 30 — driving under the influence
Mateo Ameca Barradas, 26 — driving under the influence, hold for Immigration Customs Enforcement, open container of beer, no South Carolina driver's license
Ivan Vazquez-Pivaral, 27 — no driver's license, careless driving, disorderly conduct, open container of beer
Jeffrey Briceson Greef, 35 — criminal domestic violence
Eddie Lee Smith, 19 — failure to stop for blue lights, open container of beer, speeding, purchase or possession, failure to use headlights
Brian James McCabe, 41 — driving under the influence
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Special elections frequently contain surprises, and the Republican primary for Aiken County Council District 6 on Feb. 5 was no exception. Most observers expected a run-off from this three-way race.
Instead, former councilman Phil Napier won the primary outright with 51 percent of the vote to 41 percent for John McMichael and 7 percent for Lynette Barton. Voter turnout was only 1,330 out of 12,399 registered voters or 11 percent.
Expectations for a run-off were based on the district's three geographic sections, each with a candidate representing them. Instead, variations in voter turnout and Barton's inability to gain traction led to Napier's victory.
The smallest section is the City of Aiken with approximately 20 percent of the vote. Comprising precincts Aiken 1, Six Points 35 and bits and pieces of others, this was McMichael's electoral base. This section had a 13 percent turnout, of which McMichael won 77 percent to Napier's 20 percent.
The largest section, "Greater GVW," has roughly 45 percent of the electorate. This includes Graniteville, Vaucluse and Warrenville, along with Gloverville and Breezy Hill. This was Napier's stronghold, and the results were the reverse of Aiken's: 69 percent for Napier and 24 percent for McMichael with a 14 percent turnout.
The last section, with about 35 percent of the electorate, is the rural countryside. This contains all or parts of Eureka, Shaws Fork, Shiloh, Ward, Couchton and Redd's Branch. Barton hails from this area.
The rural results were anomalous. First, turnout was an abysmally low 5 percent. Second, Barton only received 15 percent of the vote to 48 percent for McMichael and 37 percent for Napier.
This low turnout doomed Barton. She thinks many voters in the rural precincts were simply unaware of the election.
Others, she believes, didn't know they could cross over to vote in the Republican primary.
McMichael, for his part, speculated that there weren't any "hot button" issues motivating rural voters.
Ultimately, the election hinged on Napier's large margin in GVW, with McMichael's similarly good results in Aiken nullified by its smaller size, and the rural third of the district essentially not participating.
Napier "thanks God and the voters" for his win, but also notes that "I busted my tail." He began work before last November's election. He knocked on hundreds of doors, placed 400 yard signs ("99 percent actually in people's yards"), and personalized every letter in his mailer.
Napier also thinks McMichael's endorsements from outside the district energized his supporters.
"I definitely think these people should have stayed out," he said. "These endorsements disgusted a lot of folks. Many feared that rural and unincorporated representation on council would be lost."
In comparison, McMichael competently ran a textbook campaign. He employed phone banking, a mass mailer, print advertisements, yard signs, and key endorsements to gain name recognition and turn out the vote. Yet it wasn't enough.
McMichael credits Napier with hitting the ground earlier – McMichael's effort didn't begin in earnest until after the New Year – and for successfully pounding the theme that "he (Napier) was from the area and could represent them better."
On the other hand, McMichael thinks turnout in Aiken was difficult to achieve. "Many voters are sick and tired of politics after the November election," he said. In addition, many city voters didn't realize they were eligible to vote in an election for County Council.
There are many lessons from this election. First, the City of Aiken is a narrow reed on which to base a successful candidacy in District 6. Second, endorsements have limited utility in low turnout elections. Third, some city of Aiken voters see no reason to participate in county elections. Fourth, hitting the campaign trail early is crucial, as is the personalized touch in campaigning. Fifth, turnout and getting out the vote is critical.
For now, Barton has no political plans. She's glad she "stepped up," but has a wait-and-see attitude toward the future.
McMichael won't run as a write-in, but he's keeping his options open. "I'll continue to look at the numbers closely," he said.
"We ran a good, positive campaign. We made a good start, and I've received much encouragement since the election."
Meanwhile, Napier is preparing for his return to the Aiken County Council after a 10-year hiatus. "I'll represent the taxpayers and intend to work with all members of council," he said last week.
"I want to be a peacemaker, being fair to all with hard feelings toward none."
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If it wasn't the 1940 US census, then the main topic for discussion this week seems to have been the anniversary of sinking of the Titanic, and it can only get worse as we approach the actual day of the anniversary next week.
As you might have guessed from the tone of the previous sentence I am not particularly interested in the Titanic (although possibly slightly more than the 1940 census), whether it is films, television programmes, books, passenger lists or crew records.
One thing I did find interesting however was this article from the BBC News website, Five Titanic myths spread by films, which takes a more skeptical view of some of the myths that have arisen around the Titanic.
Whilst on the subject of the BBC, you might want to take a look at the BBC Archive's Survivors of the Titanic collection, which gives a taste of the organisation's output over the years, including interviews with survivors.
In the meantime I will try to summon up some enthusiasm for the anniversary between now and the 14th April.


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Team already knows what can go wrong if they slack on the Lakers. Come into the game and put them away early.
I still remember this board when we suck. A lot of poster were just hoping to beat the Lakers to alleviate the pain of a losing season. A victory was treated as a championship.
Lakers recent win against the Blazers was good because it shows that we still have to take them seriously and play our game. Hoping to build a comfortable lead and to see a lot more Granger tonight.
I think this game will be way tougher then most think,and I believe CP3 will not let us fail.
Lets play Granger more.
It says a lot about how far they've fallen that the Clippers playing PHX or GSW is a bigger, more meaningful game these days.
Should be interesting game I would be all for Blake doing a career high but a blowout would give the bench needed time.
Blake monster slam over Pau again will really make my night.
Echoing the other posters here, a perfect game will be having a great start out of the gate, minimize the threes, more bench minutes especially for Granger, and no ejections. I have a feeling they might use that to get one of our key player out.
Unlikely. These days, if Gasoft sees Griffin heading to the rim, he runs away screaming like Little Miss Muffett.
I think their we need to be careful with Kent Bazmore and marshon brooks I've always liked marshon that kid has potential Bazmore has been playing well
Just be wary of Wesley Johnson, and Xavier Henry imo, Johnson made the game winner against Portland.
Bunch of streaky wing players auditioning for next year.
Play them tight so they don't get a rhythm going and trust DJ to man the back line if they blow by. Blake will have to box out Jordan Hill, but in the end team ball will win out. Trust the system.
The lesson is....take every team seriously.
I expect a little Hack-a-thon tonight from Mike D'Anblowme.
Good. Last 13 games DJ has shot +60% from the FT line. Keep it up DJ.
I hope someone dunks on Bazemore. I don't like that guy at all!!
I agree, but it's just too bad that we don't have any guys on our team that could pull of a posterizing dunk. Oh well.
Except the Sixers.
Jordan Hill has been warming up the bench. Looks like MDA likes Sacre now. They're in tank mode I believe.
this has trap game written all over it.. can't lose to this team
With the inconsistent playing time, being thrown under the bus by MDA couple times, and expiring deal anyway why Kaman did not demand a buyout? Could of jumped on any team at the least as a 3rd big.
Jordan Hill is out this game. So we should leave DJ & Pau on an island & stay tight on the 3pt line. My only concern is Blake having to guard 3pt shooters.
Is Dudley's back well enough to play? He would probably useful as small ball PF this game, chasing shooters on the perimeter, compared to Turkoglu or Davis.
MDA is loving that small ball. Wes Johnson at PF, Blake should eat him alive!
Why, he does a great job of guarding the Perimeter for a big, and the only real consistent threat for the Lakers from "3" is Meeks. then Jordan Farmar.
I didn't say he sucks at it. It's just not his natural role & I'm not sure how it will affect our rotations.
Hope this is a blowout so Granger can get more court time
I know, I'm just Reassuring you that that's never really been that much of an issue. But I think his perimeter defense is the most natural part of his defense, He can get beat off the dribble but he's been good all year at guarding the 3, he and DJ both do an excellent job, probably why they have the #1 3pt defense.
Dan Woike-
"LAC lists Redick (back) as out, Crawford (calf) as day to day and Dudley (back) as a game-time decision. Crawford likely out as of this a.m."
Take the Lakers SERIOUSLY. They are playing like champions. They will give us their best game and we see what they cam do. They are running on pride and courage alone and that's hard to beat. HAT'S OFF.
We need to crush them early and try to neutralize Pau. We need to body him up, play physically and wear him out. Without him they have nothing. Can Big Baby guard Pau better than DJ?
Wow,I didn't realize this was a TNT game,with TNT announcers and TNT refs. This one will be really hard to win.
Trap game, not going to be a blowout. Hope I'm wrong.
With the Lakers defense the Clippers could set a record for points. It's better when the Lakers are a good team and then the Clippers beat them. It means more.
i hate espn and TNT announcers. they're so biased and think they know everything
Role reversal. This is their game 7 of the finals this season. Won't be a blow out for sure.
Did you start on the sauce early, toohip?
I'll give you that they have some guys playing hard and showcasing themselves... but champions?
D-League champions maybe, but I'd still take the Rio Grand Vipers -8 against this laker team.
Time to Whoop these Fakers once again.
As long as we don't fall completely asleep we should be good. I hope the Clippers are on one tonight, and have their hearts set out on shutting them down.
Hoping a big night for Granger.
I saw Dudley may be out. Granger takes his minutes or Doc gives them to Reggie. Clippers get up big and Granger drops 11-15 and I would be really happy
It has nothing to do with the game but Charles just said that the two best teams in the west are the thunder and clippers and he even has us beating the thunder. I think I'm dreaming Barkley just said were the best team in the west!!!!!!! 😱
WoW! What a difference a year makes! Charles Barkley the infamous Clipper Hater was live on TNT and said that the Clippers are the NUMBER 1 in the Western Conference. He said 1.) Clippers 2.) Thunder 3.) Spurs
HEY TNT! it is called a double header. Start your first game in time so it will not INTERFERE with your SECOND game!!!!
The bandwagon might just collapse under the weight of Chuck's arse!
I say we give Granger a lot of minutes tonight against one of the worst teams in the NBA. This could be a good tune-up game for him.
He likes to change his mind about us continually. Last season he hated us, then before the start of this season he predicted us playing the Heat in the Finals, and now he's back on the band wagon, again. I bet he'll change his opinion again before the season ends.
Heck, if we are behind at the half he'll proclaim he knew all along we were a fraud,and Blake is soft.


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This beautiful Felt Flower House is perfect for so many uses: store a doll and her clothes in it, it's a fairy's home, use it as a gift box, brighten up a room, or put a child's travel toys in it. The Blue House has a peaked orange striped roof and the Yellow House has a flat puprle striped roof and is 10" tall. It is 8 1/2" wide at the zipper (just below the roof) and 5" wide at the bottom. You could store small board books nicely in one of these boxes, or put your collection of play silks in it. Made in Nepal, Fair Trade.
"Hi, I got my package (Felt Flower House and other toys) in the mail today and i am so pleased with it, thanks a lot for selling great, reasonably priced playthings for children, i look fwd to buying from you in the future. -sharon j. Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 12/14/09"
Mothering Magazine selected our Yellow Felt Flower House as one of the Best Natural Toys of 2009!