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I'd give Detroit Bledsoe, DJ and 2 future 1st rounders for Andre Drummond and maybe someone like JErebko. Drummond is going to be one of, if not the NBA's best center very soon. Guy is very fast, agile, quick, knows how to rebound, can steal, block and actually works on his offensive game. DJ just sorta sits around, doesn't box out and think's he's a top 20 player in the NBA.
A. Deal doesn't work $ wise.
B. Detroit wouldn't do.
Though he isn't given as much credit, David West is essentially a bit tougher version of LMA and he has good length even though size wise he's more of a PF. Very identical players in terms of production, how they play, physical attributes.
Pistons hang up and point and laugh. Drummond is almost untradeable. That is not nearly enough value. Not even close. 2 worthless picks, Bledsoe when they already have Knight, and a net negative in DJ.
As for David West. Forget about it. I would love him but no way will he take the MLE and I doubt he wants to come off the bench. In today's league with all the overpaid contracts being handed out he can get something around 30m/3yrs easily.
Forget David West. Nene&Ariza for DJ&Butler
His blocks /36 went down from 2.5 to 1.3, most likely because he couldn't be as big of a shot blocking threat without fouling (this is with the understanding than more blocks doesn't necessarily mean good defense, but it could). GREAT rebounder, which is one of his biggest defensive impacts. 31.0 DRB%, that's just superb.
He anchored a 16th ranked rockets defense his DRTG was 3.1 pts/100 better than the team defensively. According to on/off numbers, Houston was 5.8 pts/100 better defensively with him on the court. Of course who comes off the bench for you matters and having poor defenders off the bench will make you look better as opposed to good ones.
DJ "anchored" an 8th ranked defense and his DRTG was 3.6 pts/100 better than the team defensively. According to on/off numbers, Clippers were 6.4 pts/100 worse on defense with DJ on the court.
Of course DJ was on the court with poor defenders like Butler, Billups, and even Blake who was only average at best, while the bench consisted of good defenders like Bledsoe, Barnes, and Odom. To get a better feel:
Blake: defense 8.1 pts/100 worse with him on
Billups: defense 7.2 pts/100 worse with him on
Paul: defense 5.4 pts/100 worse with him on
Butler: defense 5.3 pts/100 worse with him on
DJ played 2008 minutes during the season. He was on the court for about 68 total minutes WITHOUT Blake.
Then you ask, what about Odom, he had a 99 Drtg, played with Blake a decent amount too. The team was 9.7 pts/100 better defensively with Odom. Odom played 325 minutes / 1616 with Blake on the floor. 75 minutes with Butler, and 42 of those were also with Blake, and was never on the court with Bullups.
Yes, if you play with all the better defenders and avoid playing with all the bad/mediocre ones, you will have better defensive numbers than someone who is mainly playing with the poorer defenders.
Asik is an improvement in rebounding and overall defense. Defense is a team issue though, and he's not a KG type to change that alone, and even KG could only do so much with some of the Minnesota teams. He's worse offensively, a worse finisher, also clogs the lane and he's similarly bad as a FT shooter. You're placing too high expectations of how much he would help this team. It wouldn't be the difference between 56 games and 60 games, though it could arguably have helped against Memphis.
Asik's regression on blocks is largely due to the ridiculous pace that the Rockets play at. Blocked shots is not really a good indicator of anything anyway and often says little about how good you are on defense. Asik is no KG but what kind of comparison is that anyway? KG is arguably still the most impactful defender in the league by a per minute basis. Asik is still miles better than DJ on defense. As for the anchoring the defense argument. The Rockets have worse individual defenders than we do and its hard to anchor a defense when you play at such a fast pace.


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This time I noticed that the clock button, which was a plastic sheet over contacts on the faceplate, did not set the clock mode but did activate the timer in the same manner as the timer button. Then I perceived a slight bump in the plastic over the clock button icon. At this point I could deduce that something, possibly to do with the bump, had somehow jammed the clock button and set the timer counting down.
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West Street, Horsham, West Sussex is now pedestrianised and I pass along it almost every evening on my way home from work. Although the shop fronts have changed the upper floors and roofs of many of the buildings haven't altered a great deal, on the outside at least.
The interest is in the subject of the message, postcard collecting. To save you standing on your head here is the message the right way up.
Mr D. Bryce of East Street, Horsham was sending this to a fellow collector of PPCs (Picture Postcards) with the hope of receiving similar cards in return. Note the request for views only, obviously he wasn't interested in postcards of flowers or kittens or such like. The address side of the card adds further interest to the card.
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Is there an industry need for a ZigBee Certification test agency or certified tester recognition to not only provide the obvious technical compatability and other cert issues, but also consulting, turn-around or cost related issues. For example, can one join ZigBee alliance and develop a Cert Testing/Certification Consultancy that does the certification testing ...
I would prefer to see a button press or some other more robust mechanical - pill release mechanism that counts and semi-tamper / OD proofs any sort of medication. It seems like with any spec, if you touch it, you (may / can) incur liability, fitness for intention, implied warranty and etc.
Good presentation -- all through the 5 sessions, doubly so when coupled with the ISM class. I would like to see a slide or two with a high level flow diagram of network design process - from spec'ing out a system, chip/module selection, firmware issues, tradeoffs, implementation ideas ... network architecture issues, and thru commissioning on to test and eval (toss in compliance and cert too maybe) ...
Sub 60 minute classes work fine (maybe 50 minute limits) for archived functions and would be acceptable for most online presentations I have participated in ... not sure if more than 30 minutes interferes with some attendees lunch periods or interest / attention levels ...
Done with semester 2
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Rob sounds terrible...
Great to have access to the recorded sessions...
Taking the last class in the ZigBee track offline
Thanks Charles
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and of cource more zigbee discussion
looking forward to this last class of Semester 2
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Home power - my own devices (grin) - have not used a commercial one yet.
The one q I see is about where the test 'sniffer' goes for analysis. Anywhere within range of the PAN coordinator. I like to put it in the center of the physical network. It is not a node (although some silicon-mfr-provided ones tap into the coordinator, I don't like that. It is like scope probe capacitance - can fix or break a network!
Charles Thanks. Any experience with in home power monitoring, what are some better devices?
No experience with ZigBee yet, though it will be interesting to have a network project with Zigbee
I currently work with BT low energy SoC from TI
Thanks Charles for presentation. It was informative and Looking forward for the second part in Spring.
...and Happy (and safe) Holidays!! :)
Thanks Charles and Rob.
You give me the very useful information today.
Merry Christam.
No experience with Zigbee analyzers
THANKS Charles. Get well soon, Rob. Thanks again.
Thanks. I'm looking forward to your followon ZigBee lecture
Look forward to the new class
Great week! Thank you!! Merry Christmas everyone!! :)
Thank you very much and Happy Holidays to all!
Thank you...learnt a lot.
Thanks, Charles
Thanks Charles and Rob (get well) Excellent week. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to All!
Thank you very much, Charles and Rob!
Rob and Charles thank you and Merry Christmas
Thanks for the presentation. Looking forward for the practical session.
Great week of info Charles. Looking forward to 15.4 - the Design in 2013. Happy Hols Rob, Digi and everyone, (especially those Mayans).
Q.3. None
Not using ZigBee Analyzers
A great nrtwork protocol analyzer is "Ethereal" now by Wireshark at www.wireshark.org. free for thirty days to test.
Anritsu as a portable, HP on the bench and a PC app from Ubiquiti
No experience with Zigbee analyzers yet
Thank you for a great series of presentations. I found it highly informative.
Great Lecture!!!
Thanks Charles and Rob. (Get Well Soon Rob)
Charles, thank yo for today's presentation
This was all great stuff. TY
thanks for such a wonderful lecture
quite informative
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Does anyone has any experience with Parallax 32440-RT XBee? Is it good platform to consider for RF experiments at 802.15.4?
I recently discovered products from Schmartboard that permit soldering SOIC chips or even 100-pin chips onto a 0.1" pitch breakout board. Great for prototyping.
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Thanks JSP.
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JSP., I feel better than I sound.
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Yes I just opened Chrome and it is working much better.
Rob does not sound good.
Where the analyer is located?; Is it taking the RF signal at any location in the network or connected directly to the Cordinator via USB port or LAN port?
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Hi from MA.
Thanks MayanBlood. I'm fine. I'm just glad the world didn't end today.
hello from sunny miami. 71 degrees and freezing :) .
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@Rob, I hope that won't affect your Christmas plans too much
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Thanks KaRobtics and MayanBlood, I sound worse than I feel.
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Get well Rob
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Yo Rob,
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Seasons Greetings from North Pole area and Co.
Hi Everyone
Hi from WI
I'll be eagerly looking for part 2
In case any of you have to leave early, just a note that I can answer questions later (after today's Q&A) and am available as a consulting and training resource. My email is c.j.lord at ieee.org and my new company (launching in January!) is Blue Ridge Advanced Design and Automation (http://www.blueridgetechnc.com/). AND - we are talking about a ZigBee Part Two with some examples of design! - coming in 2013 to this curriculum!
I thought the world was going to end today. Shucks. Now I have to go on with all my obligations.
Hello from Montana's Rockies
Happy end of Great Cycle, JSP
We Mayans greet yo...chortle, cough, guk.....
Thank you Rob.
Anatoly, I'll have to check on that.
Thanks KaRobotics.
@Rob, Hello Rob, Could you tell me when students should expect the certificate arrival and what form that will be by email or hard copy via mail?
Hello from CA
My best wishes to all of a Merry Christmas & prosperous New Year 2013
Good day all!! Look forward to the class today - will talk to you in about 18 minutes!
You and me both, Rob - going to be a busy weekend!
Hello all
Hello from Belgium.
Happy holidays. I have not even started getting ready for the holidays.
Hello from Albuquerque, New Mexico.
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Hope all have a great Holiday season. The information and discussions this week have been very good and eduscational. Thanks, from sunny and cold Huntsville, Al.
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PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. — On a long, hard day at the Honda Classic, Michael Thompson relied on a superb short game to win for the first time on the PGA Tour.
Thompson seized control early with a 50-foot eagle putt on the third hole, then kept his distance with clutch par saves and closed with a birdie from the bunker. It gave him a 1-under 69 - one of only five rounds under par at PGA National - and a two-shot win over Geoff Ogilvy.
"This week was magical," Thompson said. "Just had a groove and kept feeling it."
It was a big week for Ogilvy, too. The former U.S. Open champion had plunged to No. 79 in the world ranking and already missed the Match Play Championship. He was prepared for another week off next week until putting together four solid rounds.
He chipped in from behind the 16th green for birdie and two-putted for birdie on the 18th for a 69. The runner-up finish moves him into the top 50 (No. 47) and gets him into the World Golf Championship at Doral.
Luke Guthrie, tied with Thompson for the 54-hole lead, fell behind with a bogey on the second hole and closed with a 73 to finish third.
Tiger Woods was never in the picture.
He started the final round eight shots behind, and whatever hopes he had of a rally ended on the sixth hole when he hit his drive so far to the right that the ball was never found.
He closed with a 74 - his first time since the Masters last year that he failed to break par in any round of a 72-hole tournament - and tied for 37th.
Thompson, who finished at 9-under 271, had made only one cut this year and finished at the bottom of the back. He was solid from the start Sunday on another windswept day in south Florida, one of only three players who shot par or better all four rounds.
"You don't have to do much wrong to be making a bogey out there, so it's pretty impressive," Ogilvy said of Thompson's final round. "It's a great effort, really. As you say by the rest of the scores, it's a very hard golf course and it seems to get progressively harder in some ways. There's a disaster waiting everywhere.
"There's a lot of golf courses on tour that it might be easy to close out a golf tournament - or easier - but this is not one of them."
Thompson dropped only one shot on the back nine, a three-putt on the 16th when he missed from just inside 3 feet. He rattled another short par putt in on the 17th, and then played away from the water on his second shot at the par-5 18th, into a bunker. Once his ball stopped rolling 4 feet from the cup, the tournament was over.
The win moves Thompson to No. 45 in the world and gets him into his first World Golf Championship next week.
"This is everything," Thompson said. "This is a childhood dream come true. I've dreamed of playing out here since I was 7 years old and to win, it's just unbelievable. I just can't put it into words. The whole day was awesome."
It was a mess for Woods.
He lost two balls in a span of eight holes (the other one in the third round Saturday) for what he believes is the first time in his career. He hit into the water on the 11th for another double bogey, and drove into the water on the 16th.
"I just made too many penalties this week," Woods said. "Today is a perfect example. I didn't play that poorly. I had two water balls and a lost ball. Take those away, and I missed two short birdie putts, and it was actually a decent score."
It was a wild front nine for Thompson, with only three pars, which ordinarily would spell disaster on a day like this except for his putting.
He made a 50-foot eagle putt on the third hole, made a 12-foot birdie putt behind the hole at the par-3 fifth hole and hit an approach into 4 feet for birdie on the eighth. Just as big was the tough sixth hole, where Thompson hit a bunker shot 18 feet over the flag and made the par putt coming back.
Guthrie, who fell behind for good with a bogey on the second hole, did his best to stay in range until hitting his tee shot out of bounds on the 14th for a double bogey. From there, it was only a battle for second place.
Thompson's short game was superb during the pivotal part of the final round. He twice chipped to tap-in range for par on the 10th and 11th holes, and he built a four-shot lead with four holes to play. The only thing that kept him from an easy walk to this first win was Ogilvy's late birdies.


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He's the best shooter on our team and 50% of Redick is better than 100% of Willie or Bullock. You don't shut a vet down during a PO run when they have a nagging injury that gets better with rest. If he can run around and make a shot, he plays. Shut him down after the season.
Will he hurt the team like Jameer Nelson? If he comes back during the playoff he's gonna be used for special circumstances. I don't think he's gonna automatically get the minutes. Like what the other poster said, I hope he comes back for the last ten games just to get in game shape mode
A bulging disc doesn't get THAT much better with rest, if anything the amount of time he's been out should tell you that. The first amount of contact going through a pick and the Clippers will have to adjust their rotation again. They need to get a consistent rotation now, not late in the first round or early in the second. And 50% of a player is never good enough to have on the court, especially in the playoffs when the physicality is tripled.
I've given up waiting on jj to return this season. Jamal needs to come back in a real way. We really need his offensive production.
Agreed. I think Jamal is a big unknown for defenses. He can score and dish. If he can put up 20+ a game, and Granger putting up 15 off the bench, we'll be looking real good.
Granger needs to avg like 10-12 off that bench.
I think he'll get more than that. Doc seems to favor his back to the basket game. If we can surround him with shooters in the second unit that will help stretch the D.
100% agreed,he won't be back if he did he would be too out of shape to help.
Read what Clipper Steve wrote on TOS. You shut down a high pick on a rookie deal who has a delicate injury like Nerlens Noel because it's a long term investment. You don't "shut down" your veteran starter. The doctors come to Doc and say he's 100% in mid-may and we're in the conference finals and he's supposed to say oh sorry we already shut him down, keep him in street clothes and I'll go with Willie instead? If he can't go or if he's sucking, he doesn't play. That's Doc's decision to make in-game. At worst, use him off the bench in situations where you want a 3. Even if he gets re-injured, who cares, he has all summer to recover.
Caron made himself available with a broken hand two years ago in the POs and he played a lot of minutes.
JJ posted videos today about him working out running shooting and the caption said trying to get on the court this is good news and he look pretty good I hope that he comes back soon
This is really great news! Perhaps he's ready to roll on Saturday??? I sure hope he comes back soon.
Link? I tried searching for an instagram or something, but I didn't find anything.
i saw it too. He seems to be moving well, but I wonder how his back can handle in-game situations like body contact.
Video please
The real machine
Well I'll tell you what I'd be completely ecstatic to be wrong on this one, Redick stretches the floor in a way that Jamal can't. Moving Redick back into the fold, also means we can get a great knock down shooter on the floor when Granger is posting smaller guards/forwards.
Once he heard he might not play in the playoffs he kicked it into overdrive since he is a pretty competitive player
Aw good news, can't wait to see him back, hopefully Jamal is also ready, and hope to see our complete roster before the start of the PO.
Great news, just enough games left to shake off the rust. More importantly though, the entire team will finally be able to develop chemistry at their original position.
I hope both jj and jamal play like we were used to. Jamal actually worries me more. He is a rhythm player. His good and bad games come in streaks. And now he is totally out of rhythm
Correct me if I'm wrong but that's just shooting for JJ, don't they have to go through full contact drills like scrimmages before they're cleared?
Correct. The tweet says this:
"chance he could return to practice this week."
Ppl are getting way too excited. I don't think he plays until game 1 of the playoffs if not a game or 2 before the playoffs. I would like him to play on Saturday since I'm gonna be at the game, but not likely.
The shooting video is what we have been seeing all along. At minimum we need to see some one on one contact drills with coaches to see if he can take bumps. Can he even run?
Have you guys seem his Funny or Die video?
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f2b544 ... ss-bracket
If you watch the video Kyle posted, he is definitely running. Check out the second pane.
I think he'll be able to participate in practice definitely. Would love to see him back in a Clippers uniform on Saturday or Monday.
Running on curls but my running comment was more to up and down full court. If a team gets a rebound or steal on us can he run back or if rotating on d can he chase a shooter off a shot and recover. Quick reactions that can put pressure on the back.
Love that he is trying just waiting for the next hurdle physically to be cleared.
What the hell do you guys think he's dealing with? It's just a bulging disk. I'd be willing to bet a good portion of players are dealing with them and we have no idea and they might not either.
Not really getting too excited.....................there was talk of him never playing again. Him playing in the PO's beats that by a long long way.
Not true. Bulging discs cause pinched nerves and severe pain on movement also shooting pain in your butt and down your legs. It can be so bad you can't get out of bed. Often they heal but sometimes they require surgery. This is I think what happened to D12.
A first hand opinion of somebody with one.
I'm also talking with experience. I have a bulging disk, a herniated disk (fragmented). You're wrong about Dwight Howard, he had a herniated disk. Big difference. I'm not saying that JJ has no pain, or that bulging disks don't cause pain. I'm just saying that I haven't heard anything about his pain. The only thing I've read or heard was that he had an MRI and spotted the bulge.
Everyone on this board is acting like he's been dealing with a herniated disk and that there is no way he can play. A bulging disk is a pretty common thing and there is not reason to think that JJ can't play.
This is from the Mayo Clinic:
Disks act as cushions between the vertebrae in your spine. They're composed of an outer layer of tough cartilage that surrounds softer cartilage in the center. It may help to think of them as miniature jelly doughnuts, exactly the right size to fit between your vertebrae.
A bulging disk extends outside the space it should normally occupy. The bulge typically affects a large portion of the disk, so it may look a little like a hamburger that's too big for its bun. The part of the disk that's bulging is typically the tough outer layer of cartilage. Bulging usually is considered part of the normal aging process of the disk.
A herniated disk, on the other hand, results when a crack in the tough outer layer of cartilage allows some of the softer inner cartilage to protrude out of the disk. Herniated disks are also called ruptured disks or slipped disks.
Bulging disks are more common and usually cause no pain. Herniated disks are more likely to cause pain, but some cause no pain whatsoever.
Nice post. It's true they've never said he's in a lot of pain from the bulging disk. So they're probably just holding him out until it's close to PO's in hopes that he can get through 20 games without making it worse.
Well, there we have it lol. I suppose this is good news, if the reported diagnosis is what JJ is actually dealing with.
thanks guys, I'm just trying to contribute. I mentioned that Quick helped the Kings win the cup with a herniated disk. Here is the write up from the hospital.
He led the L.A. Kings to victory in the 2012 Stanley Cup with superhuman goalkeeping performances. Later that year, Jonathan Quick revealed that during the Cup run, he was plagued by back pain whenever he rested or sat down. It hadn't subsided in the offseason, and something had to be done.
Quick visited the Kings' team doctor, who brought him to Dr. Robert Watkins IV, co-director of the Marina spine-surgery program. After Dr. Watkins diagnosed him with a herniated disc that pinched his sciatic nerve, Quick underwent surgery to correct the problem.
Quick's recovery was aided by the labor dispute that delayed the start of the 201213 season. By the time the Kings got back on the ice, Quick was ready to join his teammates.
Again, I haven't heard anything about the pain that JJ is dealing with. This is what leads me to believe that they kept him out for the stretch run and playoffs so that what they found on the MRI didn't worsen or get to a point where it did cause pain. JJ is key and Doc knows how important Ray was for his Celtics team.
There has yet to be a report that gives a date he will be capable of running all drills and contact. Regardless if herniated or bulging disk we have yet to hear him take another step. All fans can go by is what is reported and the reports have been mostly no progression pass shooting drills.
I'm inclined to agree with you. We haven't exactly "needed" JJ lately like we will in the playoffs. If it was anything that would keep him out of the postseason, they'd have probably had him have surgery sooner rather than later.
Real solid last couple of posts. Rep for that.
Please don't believe everything you read on the internet. Those things are watered down to the point that they are semi correct even Mayo Clinic. It's meant for laypersons. They often use non technical terms to make them "digestible"
A disc is a shock absorber and is composed of a fibrous capsule and a jelly like center called the nucleus pulposis. "Bulging discs" cause no problem. That is when the disc pooches out but doesn't tear. A huge % of people show "bulging discs" on MRI and most are incidental findings and cause no symptoms. Hernia means "tear". Herniated disc result from the nucleus pulposis, extruding from the ruptured fibrous capsule. The problem is that the herniation presses on the adjacent nerve roots causing neuropathic pain, nerve pain. Nerve pain is excruciating almost impossible to treat because it is not responsive to things like morphine etc. Actually a good remedy for neuropathic pain is medical marijuana. Continued pressure on the nerve can cause nerve death resulting in a "foot drop" Most herniated discs resolve without surgery bur some don't. The most common are from L2 to S1 The presentation is a burning pain on the outside of the thigh going down to the foot. Also in severe pain in the buttocks are called Sciatica. It matters not whether his nerve root compression comes from a bulging disc or a herniated disc the problem is the same, compression and injury to the spinal nerves. If the nerve root compression is not resolved surgery, is required to remove the disc. If you are kept at rest and things are allowed to heal usually you are OK but a huge % of people have lifelong problems. D12 probably had a nerve root compression that didn't resolve
Bottom line. He was most probably suffering from nerve root compression (a pinched nerve/nerves)
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AGAIN, I'm talking from experience, let me know what your email is and I'll send over a copy of my MRI. I've had neurosurgeons tell me they don't understand how I'm in not in more pain where I'm asking for meds. Some days were really painful, some days I couldn't sit without being having to lay down on the floor in my office (thank god I own my own company). Again, I had a bulging disk and one herniated. I felt a great deal of pain every day.
Almost every thing you can find will confirm that a bulging disk RARELY causes pain, your experience might be different. Mine is. But that doesn't mean what you want it to mean.
I have a ton of experience with these issues and I know what I'm talking about. I can also speculate about a player based on the information given. And the given information is that he was dealing with a number of ailments, one was a hip issue I believe, and he had an MRI performed and they found the bulge. I haven't heard one word about his pain.
The bottom line is that I'm not arguing that JJ isn't in pain, but we hear about the pain the players are dealing with on a daily bases. Jamal can't run and jump because of his calf, Paul couldn't shoot because of the pain in his shoulder, Dudley sucked all year because he had pain in his knees, JJ wasn't feeling pain in his wrist when his cast came off. Am I missing something? OH YEAH, NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT JJ'S BACK OTHER THAN HE HAS A BULGE. Nothing about pain, nothing about discomfort, just that they found a bulge and that they are giving him rest. And based on the information readily available to everyone, it isn't hard to come to the conclusion that JJ might not have ever been in very much pain at all from the bulge and that he really could in fact play.
I'm not a big fan of people just making general comments to just make general comments because they had this one experience with it at some time in the past so all other experiences with it must be exactly the same as there's.
He's also talking from experience
Jj Redick will play Saturday!!!!
Brad turner said on twitter!!!
Hell yeah!!!
Hell yeah!!!
Here's the actual tweet. Unfortunately, I think the period is supposed to be a comma. Great to hear JJ, Jamal, and Darren will all practice today.
Here's the actual tweet. Unfortunately, I think the period is supposed to be a comma. Great to hear JJ, Jamal, and Darren will all practice today.
Yup I think you're right! Oh well, still good news that he is going to practice. Hopefully he plays on Monday when I'm at that game haha
If all goes well in practice tomorrow I think Jamal will play. Its no coincidence Jamal is back at practice on his birthday either. JJ is still a week away imo opinion
I'm talking from more than personal experience although I have had the same problem that you had. I can remember sleeping in the seat of the car.
I am familiar with many more than one example of disc disease and back pain in general. Again this is more that personal experience. Bottom line is that everybody's body is different. With documented disc problems we often never find out the cause. Also sometimes the explanation of disease processes on the internet are watered down avoiding technical jargon to make them digestible. While I can't say in your specific case you could have is sciatica, a pain in the a**. Some people with bulging discs can have sciatica for other reasons. Piriformis syndrome is common. Often we are never quite sure what causes sciatica in some people.
As long as he's back and healthy who cares?
Please don't scream Thanks
Great news that JJ is practicing with the team today. That's a start. I hope he's 100% healthy and ready to play soon. That's going to be exciting to watch a full squad finally!


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Well done, mascot!
Not sure what we created here but.....IT'S ALIVE....IT'S ALIVE. *in my best Gene Wilder impersonation*
lets put him on the banner from pure respect.
Easy now big guy.
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If he's the mascot, ClipperSam is the water boy?
^ Nah, he's the coach!
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Thanks Alex.
Thank you DN for archiving this track.
Thank you Max for great insights on FPGAs and a very nice lecture!
Thanks Max and Alex.
nice one.
Excellent presentation! Thanks sir Max.
very interesting! familiarization of those components that's being presented is a great education in uducating us in this class...
now, i have to go now with the last class, day 5 lesoon...
thanks to digikey and design news as well...
excellent presentation! thanks for the lesson you have shared to us sir max...great!
now i am in slide 23, almost finished...
i am now on slide 17 of the lesson, great sir max!
now, it's ok now...i am about to begin with slides of sir max...thank again
i think there's something wrong with the voice...let me check...
i am now downloading of day 4 class presentation...
good evening once again sir max!
here i am again for your class...
Looking forward to see last presentation. Thank you!
I like the concept of future FPGA features
Hello from Oregon
Interesting comment that RT systems must be deterministic. Many of the scheduling algorithms fall into the NP class -- which is non-deterministic -- or so I would think.
I like Max style of delivering things. Great approach
You should mention several compaines making these products. It will be helpful for us. Thanks for great lecture.
Advanced / Future FPGA's look intriguing. What power ratings are we looking at? Heatsinks, Fans?
As the tools develop for FPGA's with hardware library and algorithm libraries and perhaps more graphical or model based design they may be viable depending on non-recurring and recurring costs.
Same comments on 'self documenting' presentation - please consider separate slides for your verbal descriptions to capture your presentation for later reference -- all good stuff still ...
The P.I.D. algorithm question's answer should note that PID filers are or should be made to be 'tunable'. It comes back to the issues of accuracy and precision (how close to the exact set point do you need to get and stay without oscillation for example). The startup problem like also 'special cases' is usually also addressed in all PID algorithms. Choosing a 'P' - proportional setting such as 50% which is halfway between the starting point (first measurement) and desired point (temperature, fill position etc.) implements a sort of 'binary search' to move closer to the set point. In seeking the set point, now the parameters for 'I' Integral which is a sort of running average, and 'D' Derivative which is the slope or rate of change can be determined. In addition, prior knowledge of the controllers and sensors and other elements in the control system help to determine values for PID set points. There are many good tutorials on PID and PID tuning online - enjoy!
Side note -- Labview has FPGA capabilities - see for example http://www.ni.com/fpga/ or do a web search as there are other specific white papers/app notes and information online in general and at National Instruments (NI's) website.
good day all
Please max suggest some books about to learn fpga
Thanks Max & Alex
Thank you Max!
ALso, is there anything on the error rates in code for VHDL vs high level languages ??
is there anything on the learning curve for a VHDL language and C/C+ or even assembly on a uP ??
See you all tomorrow.
One of the things to do for FPGA's would be to consolidate the HDL for them.
Using enough FPGA's you should be able to replace all the other ASIC's, uP, etc..
FPGA's seem to be the up and coming do all
hi again
So long. C U Then.
By all - -C U tomorrow -- Max
Someone said: "I might suggest asking attendees to stop "thanking" as it clogs the message board."
True, but it does make me very happy and, after all, isn;t that what we're all here for (to make me happy)?
We could always replace the "thanks" with outrageous complements as to my good looks and rasor-like wit (I'm 1/2 man, 1/2 beast, and 1/2 wit :-)
Max, many thanks to you Sir.
Bye all......Tomorrow
Still clinging to what left here too. ttfn, see all tomorrow.
Someone said "Max, if you don't mind please give us some books about the FPGA"
I'll ad dthsi to the list of books I give out tomorrow
@danlafleur "not really good for the reputation :-)"
I think that ship has sailed in my case :-)
Someone said "Max, what is deiferences between Verilog HDL and FPGA?"
HDL stands for Hardware Description Language. Unlike programming languages like C and C+ (which are inherently sequential in nature), a HDL is designed to represent the way in which hardware works -- concurrentkly, which means that multiple things can be happening at the same time.
We use HDLs like Veriloh, VHDL, SystemVeriloh, or UDL/I (from Japan) to capture the intent of our design -- then we use logic synthesis to take this high-level representation and generate a gate-level equivalent.
ASICs and FPGAs are silicon chips -- we use the gate-level output from the systhesis tool to either (a) build a new ASIC or (b) program / configure an FPGA.... thsi is a simplistic description but I hope it helps
Max, if you don't mind please give us some books about the FPGA.
I appreciate.
As a constructive criticism, it would be helpul toshow for each bullet, the talking points being discussed. Coming from a classical bkground, I'm trying to picture the ladder during the several minutes that the topic is being discussed... looking at only the highlighted topic. When we get to a meatty slide, Max says it is too complicated and moves on. Other times I'm staring at a pretty box for several minutes while the guts of the box is what I'm trying to picture. Also, I like my achronyms defined in print at least once. Sometimes the presentation appears at a very high level, good for the boardroom, less so for practitioners. Every sentence had an "ah". Having said all that, I'm grateful for the program. ggg
I might suggest asking attendees to stop "thanking" as it clogs the message board.
@Max, not really good for the reputation :-)
@MazianLab: As a simple analogy, think of it this way: Verilog HDL is to the C programming language what a FPGA is to the Intel (or Freescale or whoever...) processor
someone said "I'll be here tomorrow with bells on!"
can you post a picture? :-)
Spmeone said: "I join Mr.E's request - a case study (in advanced course) sounds like a great idea.."
Let me think about this -- no promises -- it depends on how much time I have available (of course if you want to write it ... which is ithe point that people usually stop asking :-)
I'll be here tomorrow with bells on!
Max, what is deiferences between Verilog HDL and FPGA?
Do a net Search for "Inside machines: PC vs PLC: Comparing control options" Very good article in the www.controleng.com website domain
If you do another such search using Yahoo or other on article "Cover story: Balancing PLCs, PACs, IPCs " ; you should also find this within the same website domain listed above
I join Mr.E's request - a case study (in advanced course) sounds like a great idea...
Someone said "all the advantages brought by self-modfying FPGAs carry the cost of much more need for security. Or you'll end up with "easter egg" control settings that shut down the production line"
Make sure you come back for the Safety and Security part of our course tomorrow :-)
consult International Society of Automation - Publications
hierarchy of control to supervisory level
@Island_Al "I still love TTL!"
@syakovac, "virtual peripherals"! I like the idea of high speed hw and programmable configurations. A small example is a fairly fast uC Parallax SX chip and peripheral blocks defined in software. The uC can keep up quite well with normal applications.
Someone said "I'm still unclear as to why one would use FPGAs to emulate SoC when the SoC already exists in hardware"
I think it's more a case of when you are designing a new PLC or PAC or SBC for an industrial control application -- if there's already an exuisting SoC (ASIC / ASSP / whatever) that does everything you want then you woudl use it. But if the existing SoC doesn;t do what you want ... it will cost millions of dollars and at least 18 months to develop a new one -- or you can get an off-the-shelf FPGA and program it to do whatever you want it to do...
all the advantages brought by self-modfying FPGAs carry the cost of much more need for security. Or you'll end up with "easter egg" control settings that shut down the production line.
OK Max, I still love TTL!
Just a request: if not tomorrow, then maybe in the Advanced course in a couple of weeks, could you run a case study from requirements to implementation and emphasize the design trades you made and the reasons for each, so we can get our arms around when to use a PAC, when a PLC is good enough, and when the added power of an FPGA or SBC justifies the increased complexity and risk?
OK, everyone, I got to go. e-C you all tomorrow.
thanks Max
@syakovac Thanks for your thoughts. Something for me to ponder tonight. CU tomorrow.
@danlafleur -- I have wanted to make a uC/FPGA system with some flash storage capable of "loading" high powered peripherals from the storage. I think there could be some advantages to be had but I have not seen the project that wants it yet so I have not tried the experiement.
Thanks Max. Excellent presentation yet again. See you tomorrow.
@Max: Would you be able to discuss any control system architecture - either a PLC, PAC or DCS. with actual connections ( Field devices-junction box, analog/digital marshalling cabinets, buses, controllers, HMI) ? Or upload any ref. materials ?
Someone said "Guess I'm resistant to new technology. I didn't think much of transistors in the 60's either!"
I know folks who grew up with vacuum tubes and couldn;t make the transition to transistors. And I know guys who designed digital logic with transistors but thought 74-series logic gate ICs were too confusing and wouldn;t switch...
OK, thanks Max. looks like very new and complex technology right now for self-modifying FPGA. I'll stay tuned.
@Island_Al Yes, I agree with you for low runners vs. high runners for volume. Large runners tend to like ASICS and dedicated hardware. FPGAs can be piecewise expensive but I am seeing them come down and Altera has even tried to make it so that you can "convert" to an ASIC with a different press of the large gree button.
Design or scale of Problem vs. type of solution used....... Development environment for assessing?
Someone asked "What is exactly the role of Terasic in the Altera Organization"
I have no idea -- I can barely keep on top of the various FPGA families everyone offers ... hav eyou asked Altera?
Thanks Max. I would have liked more on the SmartFusion types of devices that are integrating some configurable analog blocks. Still, good presentation.
Thank you Max and Alex..
@syakovac Makes sense in larger volume equipment, but I think more of runs of 5 to 10 units. Thanks for your explaination. Guess I'm resistant to new technology. I didn't think much of transistors in the 60's either!
Someone asked "Max, any thoughts on FPGA self-modifying code similar to uP/uC self-modigying code?"
Thsi is a very interesting area. Th eoriginal FPGAs could only be programmed in their entirity. Morte recently we have "partial reconfifuration" in which some parts of the FPGA keep on running while others are being reconfigured. When I was in Norway 2 weeks ago visiting th eUniversity of Oslo I saw some amazing things in this area. The problem this is a big topic in its own right -- way to complex to go into detail here (especiallc considering th efac tthat I am a two-fingered hunt-and-peck) typist
MAX: What is exactly the role of Terasic in the Altera Organization: Foundry or assembly line in Taiwan?
@Island_Al, I have seen some spins of the PCB but a lot of spins with the FPGA code in my past (Tektronix) and even fixes for field failures on existing products that cannot have PCB changes.
Given all of the attention to security (or a lack of) for SCADA, is there a future for SCADA or will SCADA be sunset along with other obsolete technologies?
Someone asked "What is the difference between L2 Cache and L3 Cache?"
Well, 3 -2 = 1 (grin)
Actually it's all a matter of proiximity and size. The L1 cach is spall, extremely fast, and tightyly coupled to the processor core(s). Th eL2 cache is bigger, not quite as fast, and a bit father away. And if you have an L3 cache its even bigger and a bit slower and even father away...
Thank you Max.
Thanks Max
Pyramid of control technologies:
Task Scheduler (highest level)
Real time optimization
Linear programming/ Quadratic programming
Model Predictive Control
Property estimators
Fuzzy logic
Auto tuner
Abnormal situation management system
Process Performance Monitoring System
Process Performance monitoring system
Loop Performance monitoring system
Basic Process Control system (Lowest level)
Any distributed Plant - DCs
For DCS (distributed control systems) plant automation an added consideration is interfacing these systems through the OPC ( Object Linking and Embedding for Process control) Standards for Industry.
OPC provides a common interface for all.
Max? Any insite that you can give into this?
Scada is data or event oriented DCS is process or time oriented
Inventory control is important for production demand
Max, any thoughts on FPGA self-modifying code similar to uP/uC self-modigying code? I know it's dangerous in some applications. I'm just wondering if it's possible with current technology.
Thank you, Max
Thank you Max
Thanks Max, and thanks Frank.
@syakovac While the FPGA can be changed easily, you still need pinouts, thus a new PCB. When I layout a PCB I use extra IO pins as spare for the uC chip.
Thanks Alex, thanks Ma.
The electric/optic engineering world is becoming almost as complex than our understanding of the infinity.
FPGAs at last!!! GREAT PRESENTATION...
Thx Max
Thank you again
Thanks Max, great presentation.
Excellent Informative class!
Thanks Alexander.
Great presentation! Thanks CMax!
thank you Max,
Max, thanks for another interesting presentation
Thanks Max.
Thanks Max & Alex. Great lecture.
Thanks Max!
Thanks for a great session Max.
thanks Max, It's a great presentation!
Great session, Max -- thanks!
PLC I/O are protected...
Head-spinning. Looking fwd to safety systems.
Of all the presenters CMax is the best at queing the slides. I appreciate that. Thanks CMax
Some PLC are very cheap too under $99.
@ kavinjam - any I/O of any chip can or ar3 "protected"
What is the difference between L2 Cache and L3 Cache?
PLCs are Desktops and MCUs are Laptops..;)
@Island_AI, you can field update the FPGA and it is quick and easy to develop (much more like software development) than the big think and wait spin of PCB or ASIC development
PLC inputs/outputs are protected
Thx Mr. E I understand the cert thing. My latest project has TUV requirements and I am finding they are an extraordinary pain.
@raghu PLC are very rudged device and stable.
I am gussing that PLC can withstand static voltages.. more robust.. is it so?
I'm still unclear as to why one would use FPGAs to emulate SoC when the SoC already exists in hardware and one would simply add the program rather than define the SoC in the FPGA and then still have to add the program. What advantage am I missing here? Perhaps by adding the hardware accelerator to perform higher precision or fast math? It "seems" like one-off cost would climb rapidly using FPGAs.
All I have ever used as a Verilog reference has been the LRM from Synopsys or the Quick Reference Guide from Sutherland HDL
@syakovac: a couple of reasons to choose the simpler options like PLC or PAC might be cost (make vs. buy decision) or certifications (a commercially available unit may already have needed certifications that might be costly and/or time-consuming to achieve with a proprietary design based in an FPGA or SBC).
Yes.. you see,..if you get hold of one microcontroller good..it can do everything.. adc, opamp, dac,..interrups, daqing... why another PLC.. We really need to know the advantage of PLC over other means.
@konato - That text looks like a good start. I'll get it. Thanks.
@raghu - with a uC, etc i think that you can do even more
alright, verilog it is then, gotta dig deeper in the net for reference materials, thanks guys for the suggestions
Has anybody used the SmartFusion device? What is the fitting limit like? I have had bad experiences with Altera needing a larger part than Xilinx. How does Actel stack up?
Broadly PLC is an industrial microcontroller.
Any simulation s/w for this scope of process controls? Say for ytaining purpose.
@raghu, good question. I'm also wondering the same... I'm thinking PLC reliability.
I have been asking the same question as raghu. I don't see any use for options other than SBC or FPGA
Verilog: http://www.amazon.com/Embedded-Design-Using-Programmable-Arrays/dp/1589094867
I'm interested mainly in event-driven (discrete-event) systems and control and eventually in hybrid (time-driven and event-driven) systems and control. Could you recommend some engineering tools (similar to Matlab/Simulink for classical (continuous and discrete_time systems) - simulation and model-based design) for event_driven and hybrid systems which could also automatically generate code for certain processors (PLC, microcontrollers, microcprocessors, FPGA, etc.) or intermediate code (C, Ladder, FBD, etc. )? Thank you.
Okay, one big picture question.. What is that we can do with PLC that cannot be done with a microcontroller?
The nice thing about Verilog is that it is so similar to C that you probably already know Verilog with a few small syntax issues and then the monumental task of thinking in parallel.
@Anybody - Learning Verilog - any suggestions for good text material?
@KevinJam- Nevermind; thought you werw responding to snandu13
@steve@HA - you won... i give up... :)
@skakovac - Thanks for the suggestion.
Some FPGA companies: Actel, Altera, Lattice Semi, Xilinx
@Ran -- Verilog. VHDL is a pain and is almost exclusively European and they are accepting more Verilog
@ snadu13 - VHDL: A Starter's Guide - http://www.amazon.ca/VHDL-Starters-Guide-Sudhakar-Yalamanchili/dp/0131457357
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DCS and PLC have been around for a long time. I think DCS can be associated with process control (continuous and batch). PLC is more associated with machine control. It doesn't mean they don't cross domains.
@Anybody - Which is a better choice to learn - VHDL or Verilog?
@KevinJam- Ok, but can you also give the ISBN numbers?
I'm putting my money on Joe :)
@snandu13--Learn Verilog, download the free tools from Xilinx or Altera, push go and debug
@Joe... I'm not a PAC/PLC to become a master in master-slave configuration... and slavery (among humans) is kinda illegal... ;)
Can anyone suggest reading material for FPGA Programming - starter level?
@slk- now we are back on Genetic Algorithms
@Mr. E: or if there are multiple masters in the same bus, and master-slave coordination fails... more fun ensues ;)
@Mr.E - good point...
caa028 - you become the Master - fine with me. I just did programming, commissioning etc.
@caa028 - it will be part of the learning process ... :)
@caa028: the master coordinates the slaves till it dies or a network fault garbles the commands to one or more slaves... then the real fun starts.
@slk - that's predictive control... :)
raghu, lots of applications in oil & gas gathering area with multiple wells pressures & flows be fed to common control room. Not much need for control, but data required for plant control
@ cmeadows6959 - next time do it 1/2h before the presentation :)
slide 11...
Say Fast Fouier Anaysis
Waenig: C+ vs. Visual C
@Joe... "master-slave" implies no problems with coordination (master coordinates the slaves)... the real problem is in coordination across the peers (no master to resolve the conflicts, etc...)
Why even scada now with so many daqs around?
As far as my knowledge goes, DCS can be programmed for both continuous and batch processing. This definitely helps food and beverage industries.
Another problems are in master-slaves coordinations.
I found DCS in cooling / heating processes in food
SCADA is one of the oldest sytems. Does it change (concept + hartware & S/W) in XXI century?
I can see DCS for power grid or oil production, but it is not so clear why it would help with food and beverage production. Can anyone shed any light?
slide 6
still on slide 6
I thought that we were still on 6, but i had to refresh
NI, especially its LabVIEW is fine in integrations
which slide ple
Were are corporations' servers in the system with PLCs?
@Ranjitha Anand: Thanks for the IEC 1131-3 summary!
@bobybacs: That is an interesting question. I don't know. Apparently less than Sprint provides - no gaps or issues.
@slk: all included for normal monthly fee. I'm told Sprint is the last of the unlimited data holdouts.
Right = PC are good as a programmer basically
@Mr.E - and the bill ?
Yeah, but it had to originate somewhere
@Mr.E How much bandwith you need to listen an entire presentation ?
What PLSs have most application in UK? USA = Rockwell and Modicon years 1990-2010
@krhohio: IEC 1131-3 is the international standard for programmable controller programming languages.
Ladder diagram (LD)
Sequential Function Charts (SFC)
Function Block Diagram (FBD)
Structured Text (ST)
Instruction List (IL)
Just the basic theory behind the process of the computer
@krholio: My phone is a Samsung Nexus S 4G. It has a browser in it. I just navigate to Design News on my phone, login, and the audio magically begins.
@krhohio - I suspect he means streaming using the web browser on his phone
the picture on slide 5 really helps the understanding...
i used pascal not too long ago ;)
@mwalls321- Predecessor and inspiration for the current architecture maybe?
What was the "IEC number" of the languages?
slide 5, but the audio isn't really centered on the slide... ;-)
In my "works" many t-shooting findings were in failures in scanning
@caa028- Thanks
slide 5 ???
Sounds just like the architecture of a computer
@Mr. E: How do you listen on your phone?
caa028 -it's good to have "echo" thanks
What slide are we up to?
audo problem? reload the page.
Ladder Diagram:
Hello everyone
@cook429667: I had perfect audio during the first course with Jon Titus back in January, then my organization blocked it before the second course started (without notice of course). There were no overt errors reported until I tried to access blogtalkradio.com directly from my browser. You may want to try that. Now I listen on my phone instead.
Sound didn't start immideately for me. I restarted broweser then it started about two minutes after I signed back in. It's always worked immediately in the past.
audio has been okay here
If you have no audio, check that you can go to http://www.blogtalkradio.com/contactus.aspx. I have no audio because my IT blocks that site. I can sometimes listen after the class is over
in the audio panel of the presentation, check if you are not on "pause" ...
in a circuit with many relays how is the issue of spike tackled
@JoeWojcicki... predicting your next comment - "it's the journey that's important, not the destination"
I am having audio problems..can't hear a thing.
no sound like class has not started????
check "mute"
ok thanks
Philosophy = concept is v. important in designing stage!
if you are having audio issues make sure headphones/speakers set up, check youtube or another audio source
@JoeWojcicki - it's a good exaples of how it's should not be done...
I have no audio. Tried F5 to refresh. No help.
I remember seeing a video about a smart warehouse, where they had a "heat map" of the placement of the stored items. They were reorganized on the fly by usage, and you could see "hot" stuff wander to the outer sides.
@JoeWojcicki - no, it's not.
Hello from Fresno, CA
@danlafleur - you've got it right :)
yes, repetition is the mother of learning
Is it working?
The Course is perfecr from PHILOSOPHY point of view -for educators not for instructors - mostly
for aoudio, try F5 to refresh your page.
I suspect that repeated slides has something to do with learning and repetition.
@caa028 - consideering that the topic is about "control" those slide can repeat
Looking over my notes, I remebered that Quartus (Altera) has a very good interactive tutorail on FPGAs and how to use all of the controllers, including m-files and design consoles to build them in virtual mode, plus test equipment to view operation.
audio faint
Sequence of slides and starting "intro ones" are excellent f=for learning process. Sound is here NRCESSARY of course
More slides on fpga than on plc/pac..
hello all
today's slidepack looks "strange" quite a few slides that we have seen before (2-7) and multiple instances of the same slide (8-13)... the only new (different) content is 14-23...
Hello all
Thanks Max, I appreciate it.
hello everyone...
hi Max and Alex
Hi Alex.
Hi Max
HI from baltimore
hi all,
Good afternoon, Max - looking forward to an interesting presentation again today.
re raspberry: interesting device, reminds me of ZX81, including 25 years of inflation :-)
audio is loud and clear (as usual)
Good afternoon, Alex.
Hello everyone!
hello you guys
Good day!
Hello eveyone.
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Good morning everyone from just north of Baltimore.
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Good afternoon.
Hello from overcast and cold, Muskegon, MI
It's fascnating to watch how normal PLCs are configured in pairs for safety applications. In a complete process automation system which has both PLCs and DCS, PLC can be programmed to stop distibuted control system applications to stop a running plant (of course in emergency situations). PLCs sure are amazing.
Good morning Max, Alex and all from Edmonton, Alberta.
re: the Linkedin Group you mention everyday. What's there? What's the benefit to joining the group?
Hello from Wroclaw in the rain ;-)
Hello everyone from India
Good day to everyone from VA!
Hello from Montreal in the snow :-)
Hello from Tucson
Hello Eneryone,
Hi All
Good afternoon, standing by for more interesting information
Hello Everyone
Ladies & Gentlemen - plz share your solutions / expertise...
Good afternoon all! Looking forward to another great session!
Howdy folks!
Hello everyone.
Anyone heard/interested in Raspberry Pi?
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Thanks Chris, I had a look at the pdf. It's interesting and deserves more time. This reminds me of the movie War Games where WOPR tries all possible solutions for an acceptable outcome. (the only solution was not to play).
Do a net Search for "Inside machines: PC vs PLC: Comparing control options" Very good article in the www.controleng.com website domain
If you do another such search using Yahoo or other on article "Cover story: Balancing PLCs, PACs, IPCs " ; you should also find this within the same website domain listed above
There were some questions yesterday about Genetic Algorithms and their practical applications. They can be used to solve very complex problems, but as Max described they will find a suitable solution but it might not be the absolute best.
Here is a link to an Altera website that includes a PDF describing a high level understanding for their fitting algorithms for their FPGAs. In it they describe how they use the GA Annealing for determining a best solution for routing an FPGA.
It might fill in some of the gaps of how a GA is used.


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